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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:05,120 I'm Tim Tate. I've been an investigative journalist 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,200 for almost half a century. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:13,280 And what I specialise in is exploring official archives, 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,680 unearthing dusty old files from government departments, 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,960 spy agencies, the police. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,520 This strange figure looked very much like an astronaut. 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,920 And what I have found in those collections, 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,120 both in Britain and in the United States, 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:36,120 is a truly extraordinary collection of real life X-Files. 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,520 True Cryptids, like the Yeti and the Mongolian Death Worm . 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,600 And those files disclose investigations by the police, 12 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,200 by governments, by spy agencies. 13 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:53,400 Shortly after that transmission, Captain Schaefer's radio went dark. 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,320 To examine and uncover the truth about phenomena 15 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,280 which are truly out of this world. 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,200 It's a great piece of branding, the death ray. 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,720 Everyone knows where to stand in the death ray. 18 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,200 When someone goes missing, 19 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,360 we all know there must be a rational explanation. 20 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,040 But in our first X-File, 21 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,840 the only logical interpretation seems to come from another planet. 22 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,360 Captain William Schaffner 23 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,760 was a 28 year old U.S. air force pilot, 24 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,200 and in September 1970, he was on attachment to the RAF. 25 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,240 And at that time, we're involved in this standoff with the Russians. 26 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,400 Still the Cold War, a lot of tension. 27 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,640 And every now and again, 28 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,080 the Russians would send aircraft over the Arctic 29 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,440 probing NATO defences. 30 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,320 Radar stations have picked up a wave of high-flying supersonic 31 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,760 bombers heading for targets all over Western Europe. 32 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,240 And we had a whole series of air bases 33 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,240 where aircraft will be at standby, known as QRA, 34 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,520 which stands for Quick Reaction Alert. 35 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,960 So these are cockpit-ready pilots who were there 24 hours a day 36 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,480 waiting for the order to come from the RAF 37 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:27,400 to scramble into the air over the North Sea, 38 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,080 to go and fend off whatever is waiting for them. 39 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,200 In the modern world, the emphasis is on speed. 40 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,440 The Lightning is said to be the fastest aircraft in the world 41 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:37,760 on active service. 42 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:40,400 William Schaffner was an experienced pilot. 43 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,280 He'd flown in the US Air Force during the Vietnam War. 44 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,920 The RAF listed him formally as combat ready. 45 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,120 Scramble. Scramble. 46 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:57,000 At 8:30 p.m. on Wednesday, September the 9th, 1970, 47 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Schaffner was scrambled to intercept an intruder. 48 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,200 Something unusual had been seen on radar 49 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,280 coming over the North Sea towards Flamborough Head 50 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:09,560 in Yorkshire, 51 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,880 it had gone much further than what they would have expected 52 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,480 a Russian intruder aircraft, 53 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:16,440 so they needed to get into the air quickly. 54 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,960 Bill Schaffner leapt into his Lightning, 55 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,520 so he went up and got he an RAF pilot behind him, 56 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,240 his wingman, and they were being directed by 57 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,320 the radar ground controller RAF Staxton Wold. 58 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,680 And he reported back when he spotted the interloper. 59 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,720 He wasn't able at that distance 60 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,120 to determine what type of aircraft it was, 61 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,200 but he was able to calculate its speed, 62 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,880 160 knots or thereabouts, 63 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,960 well below the speeds at which his Lightning was capable of flying. 64 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,320 And Lightning is an apt description of its ferocity 65 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,560 and speed, 66 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,800 twice the speed of sound, 1,320 miles an hour. 67 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,800 That's the incredible ability that's part of Britain's defence. 68 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,600 He was talking to the ground control and he said, I can see- 69 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,800 I can see some lights in the distance. 70 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,840 I'm going in for the interception. And he was told, be careful. 71 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,800 You know, you need to sort of slow down. 72 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,440 So he was moving towards it to intercept it. 73 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,080 As he got closer, 74 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,800 he realised that there were some strange blue lights, 75 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,120 that there was kind of conical shape, 76 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:24,000 and also seeing this sort of football shape as well. 77 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,720 Schaffner did relay the fact that this was an unusual sight, 78 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,000 or rather, he did say about how it's turning around, 79 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,680 it's coming straight towards me, 80 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:35,000 and that he was going to take evasive manoeuvres. 81 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:41,240 Shortly after that transmission, Captain Schaffner's radio went dark. 82 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,480 That night in September would be the last time 83 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:56,640 anyone ever saw or heard from Captain William Schaffner. 84 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,120 Pilots had only a very limited survival time 85 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:04,840 in the cold September North Sea, 86 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,640 so the RAF quickly mounted a full air-sea rescue operation 87 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,200 to try and find Captain Schaffner and his missing Lightning. 88 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,040 Code named Foxtrot 94. 89 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,520 The pilots had, they had an ejection mechanism. 90 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,000 So if you're in trouble, you could hit a button, 91 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,120 it blew off the cockpit 92 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:25,240 and you'd be propelled out of the aircraft 93 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,440 and you would have an inflatable dinghy 94 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,560 that would open up and give you some time 95 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,800 before you were spotted by the air sea rescue. 96 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,320 But no sign of the pilot, no sign of the aircraft. 97 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:36,600 It had vanished. 98 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,480 Royal Navy divers located the Lightning plane 99 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,240 five weeks later on the seabed. 100 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,560 The bizarre thing was that when they recovered the aircraft 101 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,440 and looked in the cockpit, 102 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,240 there was no pilot and the cockpit was shut. 103 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,480 William Schaffner was married with two sons, 104 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,520 but all the RAF could tell them was that he had died 105 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,960 in an unfortunate accident whilst on active service 106 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,600 and his body had not been recovered. 107 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,440 The ensuing official inquiry was conducted, 108 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,320 as with everything else related to the fate of Foxtrot 94 109 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,000 under conditions of complete secrecy. 110 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,040 What changed that was a phone call made to the offices 111 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,720 of the Grimsby Evening News in 1992. 112 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,760 The caller, when he was put through to the newsroom 113 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,800 and spoke to a journalist, refused to identify himself. 114 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,480 But what he said was that he had been a member of the RAF team 115 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,160 which examined the remains. 116 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,360 He said that on the night that Foxtrot 94 had been lost, 117 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,320 number five squadron and Captain Schaffner had been on 118 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,600 a unique top secret mission. 119 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,960 And that top secret mission was to intercept UFOs. 120 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,760 Even more astonishingly, the anonymous caller provided 121 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,400 a transcript of the radio chatter between Captain Schaffner 122 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,080 and his ground control. 123 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,000 That transcript appeared to record Schaffner describing 124 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,800 the object he encountered. 125 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,520 He said, in this transcript, 126 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,840 it emitted a blinding, bluish light... 127 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:25,800 ...and was flying far faster than any other aircraft. 128 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,520 And then the transcript recorded him saying, 129 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,640 wait, it's turning towards me. 130 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,600 I'm gonna have to take evasive action. 131 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,240 After that, the radio went dead. 132 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,520 When the newspaper published the story, 133 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,360 the silence surrounding Captain William Shafner's disappearance 134 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,960 mutated from being an unexplained accident 135 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,640 into a full-blown conspiracy theory involving a cover-up, 136 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,600 UFOs, and alien abduction. 137 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,120 The family of Bill Schaffner, 138 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,520 by that point his sons were in their 20s, 139 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,240 they looked on the internet and they saw all this stuff 140 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,960 about their dad dying as a result of an alien abduction. 141 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,320 So you can imagine how they felt, 142 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,480 because they felt, oh my God, you know, 143 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,240 we've never found the truth about what happened to our dad. 144 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,840 And now we're reading all this stuff on the internet. 145 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,000 In 2002, Schaffner's sons asked the British government 146 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,120 to release any information they had 147 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,480 relating to the disappearance of their father. 148 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,120 But it took a further six years 149 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,680 before the contents of their investigation 150 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,920 was finally released in 2008. 151 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,680 The main problem that was found was the fact that Schaffner, 152 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,120 despite being an experienced fighter pilot, 153 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,960 hadn't really received the proper training for this, 154 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,960 for low-level flying at night. 155 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,840 Another factor is the fact that Schaffner was impatient 156 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,040 to get back into the skies when he had scrambled. 157 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,640 Initially, he was meant to make sure that the Lightning 158 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,040 was properly serviced, 159 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,240 but he'd actually left without it being fully completed. 160 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,000 Unused to flying the Lightning at low speeds, 161 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,040 Schaffner stalled the aeroplane. 162 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,040 Having stalled at low altitude, 163 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,560 the plane hit the water and skidded on the surface 164 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:06,960 before starting to sink. 165 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,360 Schaffner had only seconds to activate his ejector seat. 166 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,520 The cockpit wouldn't blow when he hit the button 167 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:15,080 that should have blown it off. 168 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,360 So what did he do next? I'd have to manually do it. 169 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,440 And he's motoring this cockpit open and trying to think, 170 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,960 have I got all my life saving gear with him? 171 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,200 And he hadn't. It had become detached. 172 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,840 So he gets out of the cockpit, he's in the water, 173 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,360 and the cockpit's closing like that 174 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,560 before he could retrieve anything from the cockpit, 175 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,760 the aircraft sinking, and he drowned. 176 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:40,200 This seems to account for the order of events 177 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,520 that left Captain Schaffner stranded as his Lightning sinks, 178 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:47,680 but it doesn't explain the object that Schaffner reported seeing. 179 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,360 The RAF knew all along what it was, this object. 180 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,000 It was a Shackleton. 181 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,320 A Shackleton was a British aircraft 182 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,480 and the descendant of the Lancaster bomber. 183 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,840 It was used primarily by the RAF against Russian submarines. 184 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,640 In September 1970, 185 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,360 it was on exercise playing the part of a Russian intruder. 186 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,680 The crew of the Shackleton were interviewed and they said, 187 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,480 yeah, you know, we were there. We knew it was an exercise. 188 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,360 We knew that Lightnings would be coming in and shadowing us. 189 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,200 And we saw this aircraft pass by. 190 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,400 We saw its lights and then it just vanished and we assumed 191 00:10:21,560 --> 00:10:24,680 it had hit the water. Which was exactly what it had done. 192 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,280 But none of this takes into account the testimony 193 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:28,840 of the anonymous whistleblower, 194 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,080 who knew it was a secret mission to intercept a UFO, 195 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,360 and who provided transcripts in which Captain William Schaffner 196 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,200 reported seeing lights in the sky shortly before he vanished. 197 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,200 When the transcripts of Captain Schaffner's communications 198 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,800 were finally released in the official inquiry, 199 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,880 it deviated significantly from the whistleblower's report 200 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,680 to the Grimsby Telegraph. 201 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,560 There is no mention of taking evasive action, 202 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,000 and the alleged flashing blue light is not referenced. 203 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,080 So how did Captain William Schaffner become the poster boy 204 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,000 for British UFO conspiracy theories? 205 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,760 At the time, very little was revealed from the incident. 206 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,720 Some of this, of course, was just the normal protocol 207 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,760 of dealing with aircraft crashes and disappearances. 208 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,760 But I do think there was a bit of an official cover-up in terms of 209 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,960 just what had happened to Schaffner, 210 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,880 because there were a certain amount of failings in this 211 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,320 that would have been very incriminating for the MOD 212 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:31,520 and for the RAF. 213 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:34,280 This is why no one trusts what the government says, 214 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,080 because there's so many examples of this kind of thing, 215 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,000 unnecessary secrecy, 216 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,880 things where they did know the answer to a mystery, 217 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,520 but deliberately keep it under wraps for decades. 218 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:48,840 And that allows conspiracies to develop. 219 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,920 And a lot of it is well over the top, unnecessary secrecy. 220 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,400 There's no reason why Bill Schaffner's family 221 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:58,800 couldn't have been told at the time what had happened, 222 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,200 but for some reason they weren't. 223 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:06,840 There is, though, one small coda to this story. 224 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,360 When the file was released, 225 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:15,160 it turned out to have been stored in a collection held by the RAF 226 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,480 and the government. 227 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,440 And that designation was: 228 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:24,360 Inquiries into Unexplained Aerial Phenomena, 229 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:25,920 UFOs. 230 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,000 Would the world be a better place 231 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,440 if paranormal abilities really existed? 232 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,800 But what if those who had those incredible powers, 233 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,080 fell into the hands of our enemies? 234 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,560 In the 1960's, remarkable claims emerged from Soviet Russia 235 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,680 that they had found someone with the ability to move objects 236 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,280 using only the power of their mind. 237 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,240 What's more, they could prove those claims. 238 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,920 There was moving footage of telekinetic experiments, 239 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,120 and those films featured 240 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,920 an otherwise unremarkable Russian woman 241 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,720 called Nina Kulagina. 242 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,920 The incredible footage shows Kulagina sat at a table 243 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,480 surrounded by scientists and journalists 244 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,440 as she apparently moves objects with her mind. 245 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,960 This rare talent for moving objects by force of will alone 246 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,600 has been termed psychokinesis or PK. 247 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,880 Nina Kulagina is a Russian housewife who has this ability. 248 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,400 She was born in Leningrad in 1926, 249 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:09,200 and her birth name was Ninel Mikhailova. 250 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,800 So usually in the West, we call her Nina Kolagina, 251 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,440 but she was actually called Ninel, which is N-I-N-E-L, 252 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,040 or Lenin backwards, which was a popular name at the time. 253 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,920 She was born two years after Lenin's death. 254 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,440 Her adolescence was very traumatic. It coincides with World War II. 255 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,240 At the age of 14, with the Second World War raging, 256 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,760 she joined a tank regiment 257 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,400 and she was assigned to the defence of Leningrad 258 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:44,360 in the lengthy and bloody, terrible Siege of her city by German forces. 259 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,400 She was badly wounded during the fighting. 260 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,560 In the early 1960s, 261 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,960 it seems that she had some kind of breakdown 262 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,360 linked to her injuries in World War II. 263 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,560 And so the first time that she showed 264 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,280 her psychic abilities was in hospital. 265 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,000 There was a radio report about a woman who was said to be able 266 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,800 to see colour with her fingers, and Ninel had the same ability. 267 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,960 Apparently, she could pick out threads from a box of threads 268 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,880 and pick the right colour without being able to see them. 269 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:22,040 She simultaneously discovered that these powers were not always benign. 270 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,160 Kulagina described events in which, 271 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,800 during times when she got angry, 272 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,600 objects, vases, China pottery would fly across the room 273 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,120 and smash themselves 274 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,480 and she attributed this to her telekinetic powers. 275 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Kulagina and her husband set out 276 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,800 to record her telekinetic powers. 277 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,520 And they made short films in which she is seated at a table, 278 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,160 with an everyday household object in a glass case in front of her. 279 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,320 And by sitting and staring at the object, 280 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,000 she is able, as these films show, to make it move. 281 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,040 These early home movies soon came to the attention 282 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,560 of the Russian authorities, 283 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,320 who signed Nina up to a scientific programme 284 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,400 which could test whether her abilities were real or fake. 285 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,520 And once again, it was all captured on film. 286 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,560 Kulagina was studied intensively for more than 10 years 287 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,680 by Professor Sergeiev of Leningrad University, 288 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,640 and the films of her demonstrations became the subject 289 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,560 of unending controversy. 290 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,120 Did she have genuine paranormal powers or was she a charlatan? 291 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,320 She's putting a lot of force and effort into what she's doing. 292 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,800 She's waving her hands over certain items, 293 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,840 she's wearing a short-sleeved top and short-sleeved skirt, 294 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,480 so we can see nothing like a watch or anything else is on her arms. 295 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,600 And so you can see all these different compelling items 296 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,160 being moved, groups of matches sliding together, 297 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,120 a cigarette upended, 298 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,160 just moving across the table without falling over and rolling. 299 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:04,360 In 1968, Russia mounted the first parapsychology symposium 300 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,360 in Moscow. Expert observers from the West were invited. 301 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,280 And were amazed at the footage of Kulagina's telekinetic powers. 302 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,920 They were also allowed to watch Nina perform, 303 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,480 and the reports they sent back were nothing short of startling. 304 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:25,000 They described witnessing Kulagina seated six feet away 305 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,040 from a case which held an egg... 306 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,280 ...and seeing Kulagina's mind, apparently, 307 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:39,400 separating the yolk from the albumen of this egg 308 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,080 without her ever touching it. 309 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,600 Kulagina was involved in an experiment 310 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,840 which involved a heart being suspended in a solution 311 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,840 that kept it artificially beating. 312 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:56,440 That was wired up to electrodes and the heart rate was monitored 313 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,640 and what they found was that the heart could be sped up, 314 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,240 slowed down, and eventually stopped by Kulagina. 315 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,240 One of the Westerners who was present at that demonstration 316 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,240 took secret footage, and that made its way to the West. 317 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,600 And from that moment, the, what we might call the paranormal 318 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,680 community in the West, and also Western scientists, 319 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,120 became fascinated by Kulagina's powers. 320 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,680 But on seeing the films of Kulagina's psychokinesis or PK, 321 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,080 there were others in the West who recognised that the Russians 322 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,640 now had control of a power with a much darker potential. 323 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,360 The Soviets claimed they've already devised machines, 324 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,440 that create magnetic and other kinds of artificial fields 325 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,560 that increase psychic powers, particularly telepathy and PK. 326 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,440 To suddenly have papers coming out saying that they've got 327 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,960 just one subject alone and perhaps many others. 328 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:57,880 With their mind manipulating things and can affect biological systems, 329 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,720 can think of someone at a distance and stop their heart, 330 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,040 for warfare that is extremely advanced 331 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,720 and a very powerful weapon to have and harness. 332 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,520 The United States commissions a report from military intelligence 333 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,160 that looks at all aspects of Soviet psychic research, 334 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,400 and it concludes that the Soviet Union has 335 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,960 at least 20 different institutes that were involved in research 336 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:22,440 at a cost of 21 million dollars per year. 337 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:27,160 The CIA was then about to begin its own experiments 338 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,840 in parapsychology, 339 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:34,360 convinced that Moscow would produce a weapon 340 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,000 against which the United States would be powerless. 341 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,360 As a result of the Cold War, 342 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,160 the United States was spending billions of dollars 343 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,760 on conventional and nuclear warfare. 344 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,760 Now they would need to pump even more time and money 345 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,680 into psychic research if they were going to catch up with the Russians. 346 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,040 But the big question that hung over Nina Kulagina was, 347 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,600 how did she do it? 348 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,680 There were many sources that claimed that 349 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,720 basically Kulagina's abilities were fraudulent, 350 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,160 that she was faking it, 351 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,480 basically that she was using either hidden wires or hidden cords, 352 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,080 or magnets in order to conduct her experiments. 353 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,520 In the 1980s, there was a magazine article that claimed this, 354 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,280 and Kulagina sued the author of the article, 355 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,800 and she actually won the case. 356 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,760 The judge said there's no evidence that Kulagina was faking it, 357 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,680 and a lot of the claims in the article were fake. 358 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,640 The films of Kulagina do contain an explanation 359 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,760 of what powers she was tapping into to achieve her psychokinesis or PK. 360 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,880 According to Dr Rabbitts in the 1951 Yale Journal 361 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,200 of Biology and Medicine, 362 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:49,880 the action of the sun and moon also affects the body's force field. 363 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,080 Dr Sergiev agrees, the most favourable time for PK 364 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,680 is during magnetic disturbances of the earth 365 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,040 caused by sunspot activity. 366 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,200 According to the Soviet view, 367 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:04,520 PK is not accomplished by mind over matter, 368 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,800 but rather by mind over force field. 369 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,520 However she was doing it, 370 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,160 the film seemed to show that the tests had a genuine physical effect 371 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,400 on Kulagina. 372 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,120 The films claim that these effects were backed up 373 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,720 by scientific evidence. 374 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,640 She loses up to three pounds 375 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,840 after a demonstration of psychokinesis. 376 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,440 For days after doing the tests, her arms and legs hurt. 377 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,640 Kolagina was also wired up and her heart rate was monitored 378 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,720 and they found that her heart rate increased to around 379 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,680 240 beats per minute. 380 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,600 And many sources suggest that in other tests, 381 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,640 she suffered terrible problems, 382 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,200 ranging from a loss of sight, pain in her spine, 383 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:51,800 the opening up of the wound that she had from World War II 384 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,720 and eventually a heart attack. 385 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,520 When Nina Kologina died of a heart attack in 1990, 386 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,480 many believed it was due to the strain on her body 387 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,560 caused by the forces she wielded 388 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,440 in the many scientific experiments she performed. 389 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,320 Ever since, debate has raged. 390 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,920 Was she a real life x-woman, 391 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,840 someone who could move objects 392 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,440 just using the power of her mind? 393 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,000 Or was she a talented trickster 394 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,600 supported by Soviet scientists 395 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,000 who were serving a much deeper and more sinister purpose, 396 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,520 for the Kremlin. 397 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,640 It's an amazing story and the footage is fascinating. 398 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,080 And the idea that both the Soviet Union and the United States 399 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,560 are involved in this campaign of psychic research 400 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,520 is something that we don't usually associate with the Cold War. 401 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,280 So this is kind of esoteric, psychic Cold War, 402 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,080 what we might call a psychic arms race, is absolutely fascinating. 403 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,320 Some objects are the stuff of legend. 404 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,080 They are so revered that the thought that they might 405 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,560 actually exist seems impossible. 406 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,520 That is unless your mind is bent on world domination. 407 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,600 A few Christian relics have generated 408 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,000 as much academic interest, 409 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,200 scientific controversy, 410 00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:48,960 and wild conspiracy theories 411 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:51,520 as the Holy Grail. 412 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,680 Early medieval poems, 413 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,240 a 19th century opera 414 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,200 and Hollywood movies 415 00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:01,160 have cemented the Grail's place 416 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,560 in the mythology of supernatural objects, 417 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,880 objects which have some mystical, paranormal power. 418 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,400 But what is the otherworldly source 419 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,840 of the Grail's power? 420 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,800 It was known as the drinking vessel 421 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,480 that was used during the Last Supper. 422 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,120 And so it was associated with the blood of Christ. 423 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,800 And was therefore a particularly precious and holy object. 424 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,520 It's believed by some that if you have the cup of Christ, 425 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,560 you have access to some form of eternal power or invincibility. 426 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,240 It's a highly venerated, highly symbolic object 427 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,760 that is invested with supernatural religious power 428 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,440 that is connected to Jesus Christ. 429 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,760 It has been reported to be in a cathedral in Spain 430 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,160 or a French chateau? 431 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,920 Is it a cup in Wales 432 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,240 or could it even be in the Metropolitan Museum in New York? 433 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,000 All we know is that some wanted it for its religious significance, 434 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,800 while others had far more sinister intentions. 435 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,080 1920, Hitler began. 436 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,760 He was considered just a joke then, a raving crackpot. 437 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,280 What Nazism was trying to do was to fuse all forms 438 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,920 of belief systems 439 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,720 such as Christianity, occult, superstition, astrology, 440 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,240 you name it, and blend them 441 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,200 to form this new super religion that's gonna last a thousand years. 442 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:30,480 The Nazis are interested in creating a mythology 443 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,400 for the concept of Aryanism. 444 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,000 And as a part of this, 445 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,080 they're trying to create a mythical pedigree for the Aryan race. 446 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,120 You know, that doesn't exist, so what do you do? 447 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,000 You go into actual history that exists, 448 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,680 and then you try to use that for it. 449 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,320 They wanted to connect the Aryan race 450 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,400 with the life of Jesus Christ. 451 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,600 Now, of course, Jesus Christ was Jewish. 452 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,600 He was a Jew growing up in The Middle East 453 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,800 thousands of years ago. 454 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:01,240 For the Nazis, 455 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,320 it was a very uncomfortable fact that he was a Jew. 456 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,240 What the Nazis wanted to do is to portray Christ as an Aryan. 457 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,400 Essentially a white man. 458 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,320 A strong believer in all things occult, 459 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,600 the man who took on the task of creating this new association 460 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,200 between the fictional Aryan race and Christianity 461 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:22,640 was Heinrich Himmler. 462 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,120 Heinrich Himmler, grim and bloody name in Nazidom, 463 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,680 the hangman of freedom. 464 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,680 0 Heinrich Himmler was the Reichsfuhrer-SS, 465 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,240 or the guy who led the SS for quite some time, 466 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,400 and he very particularly is interested in creating 467 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,920 this Aryan mythos. 468 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,120 So he spends a lot of time trying to create 469 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,720 a theoretical ancestral heritage for Aryanism. 470 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,320 Then in 1934, 471 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,680 Otto Rahn, an otherwise obscure German academic historian, 472 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,800 published a book which would fuel Himmler's obsession 473 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,560 with the Grail 474 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,360 and with its place and importance to... 475 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,440 ...his Brotherhood of Aryan Teutonic Knights. 476 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,240 He's written a book that's called the Crusade Against the Holy Grail. 477 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,000 And he's convinced that a group of heretics 478 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,640 who lived in southern France, 479 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,480 who were sometimes called the Cathars, 480 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,920 had hold of the Holy Grail. 481 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,680 And he writes a whole book about this. 482 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,200 That becomes really popular with Himmler, 483 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,320 who is really the big one pushing forward this idea 484 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,080 of an Aryan mythology. 485 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,080 And so you get these ideas kind of roped together, 486 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,280 and basically it's a way of justifying Nazism. 487 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,320 Himmler had formed an organisation 488 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,240 which was part of the SS, 489 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,040 a kind of think tank called the Ahnenerbe, 490 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,360 which means ancestral heritage. 491 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,680 And it was quite a large organisation 492 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,360 that looked at different aspects of Aryan history 493 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,160 in order to link them to the new Germany 494 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,840 that was being created by the Nazis. 495 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,840 So he invited Rahn to join the Ahnenerbe, 496 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,520 and gave him opportunities to go and seek out the Holy Grail. 497 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,920 Rahn, however, was eccentric. 498 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:19,680 He had a drink problem, he was gay, he didn't fit into the SS ethos. 499 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,000 Nevertheless, Himmler continued to support him. 500 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,760 If he did anything wrong, if he was caught... misbehaving, 501 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,280 Himmler would punish him by giving him guard duty 502 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,520 at Dachau concentration camp. 503 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,040 And we know that Rahn was deeply disturbed by what he saw there. 504 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,920 The Ahnenerbe took these very amounted, 505 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,360 these very, very long and costly trips all over the world, 506 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,920 to places like Tibet, 507 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,440 you name it, all over the world, to try and find evidence 508 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,800 that kind of linked the modern Nazi state 509 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,040 to the cradle of humankind. 510 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,200 Now, it is possible that during some of those expeditions 511 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:13,120 that actually the Nazis were looking for objects like the Holy Grail. 512 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,440 But you better believe that if they found some little cup 513 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,000 on route and thought that was the Grail, 514 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,120 they would have brought it back to Berlin. 515 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,880 But how were Himmler and Rahn going to find the Holy Grail? 516 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,920 It could be anywhere in the world. 517 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,600 Himmler found the answer in an opera by Richard Wagner. 518 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,360 The inspiration of Richard Wagner's grandiose operas 519 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,840 was shrewdly utilised by Hitler 520 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,840 to glamorise his nation's age-old pattern of treachery and violence. 521 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,760 Parsifal took the original mediaeval tale of Percival 522 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,880 and placed it at the centre of an occultic tale 523 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,800 of magical forces and redemption. 524 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,880 And the opera suggested that the Grail's resting place 525 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,280 was in the Pyrenees Mountains 526 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,640 on the border between France and Spain. 527 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,360 Himmler is particularly interested in the Grail 528 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,000 to the point that he actually goes looking for it. 529 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,520 And he ends up over in Catalonia at a place called Montserrat, 530 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,440 which is kind of like Monsalvat, 531 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,080 which is a reference to the Holy Grail, 532 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,640 very specifically from a Wagner opera. 533 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,320 He doesn't find it, surprise, 534 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,240 because the Holy Grail is probably not real. 535 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,600 But what he does find is a lot of tunnels 536 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,600 that are underneath monasteries and castles, 537 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,360 which is completely normal, just absolutely ordinary. 538 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,440 That's how you would kind of get things in and out 539 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,600 if you're under siege. 540 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,120 But he kind of takes this as some kind of proof 541 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,720 that there was the Holy Grail 542 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,480 and it's being squirrelled around varying places. 543 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,840 But he obviously believes enough in it to go looking for it. 544 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,280 And interestingly, also, he doesn't believe enough in it to fake it. 545 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,840 You know, you would think that a Nazi like this might just be like, 546 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,720 oh yeah, look, we found the Holy Grail. 547 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,960 He doesn't do that. He says that it's an inconclusive search. 548 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,080 The Nazis didn't really hide their belief in the Holy Grail, 549 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,400 as it was part of The Aryan myth. 550 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,280 And so it came to the attention of the Allies. 551 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,360 The British were very much aware of the fact that there was a lot 552 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,760 of Nazi interest in the occult. 553 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,520 They were very much aware that there might have been propaganda 554 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,840 value in this. 555 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,800 So I think the British and the Allies were very wary 556 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,840 of what the Nazis were doing. Did they take it seriously? No. 557 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,680 What would have happened if the Nazis claimed 558 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,400 that they had found the Holy Grail. 559 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,560 How would they have used its occult power? 560 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,760 Himmler took possession of Wewelsburg Castle 561 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:52,880 as the headquarters of his mystical Aryan Brotherhood 562 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,720 of SS Knights. 563 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,240 He had a crypt constructed 564 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,640 around which 12 SS leaders 565 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,200 would conduct occult ceremonies in front of an occult symbol. 566 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,120 And that number 12 was not coincidental 567 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,960 because that was exactly the number of knights 568 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,360 around King Arthur's fabled round table. 569 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,680 Himmler conflated the two myths. 570 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,200 I think that people are obsessed with the idea that the Nazis 571 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,720 were searching for the Holy Grail 572 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,840 because the Nazis were so horrible and terrifying 573 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,920 that we want an occult explanation for their behaviours. 574 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,440 It's difficult for us to say this is just a group 575 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,160 of really terrible people 576 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,920 who wanted to exterminate whole other groups of people. 577 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,720 So we want there to be a magic that describes 578 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,200 what it is that they're doing. 579 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,280 It's easier than just accepting that sometimes human beings 580 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,760 are really awful. 581 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,920 I think we have to be a little bit careful with this obsession 582 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:58,640 with things like the Holy Grail and the occult activities of the Nazis. 583 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,200 It's in danger of clouding the fact 584 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,840 that what the Nazis did was to transform Europe 585 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,240 in the most diabolical way. 586 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,560 What if something was so strange that it seemed impossible 587 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,920 to give it a name? How would we refer to such a thing? 588 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,080 Warminster, where strange sights and sounds at night 589 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,640 have been reported. 590 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,680 Warminster is a quiet market town in Wiltshire, 591 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,960 where things like this just don't happen. 592 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,720 Well, I've lived in Warminster for 11 years, 593 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,080 and in the whole time, the Warminster thing 594 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:10,360 has been discussed. 595 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,600 Sometimes you hear it two or three times a week, 596 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,720 sometimes you don't hear it for weeks on end, 597 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,040 but you are Just aware, I think, that it's always there. 598 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,280 There was enough interest to pack a public meeting 599 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,080 in the town hall last Friday night. 600 00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:24,440 More than 300 people turned up to hear the local council chairman, 601 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,400 Mr Emlin Reece, open the meeting. 602 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,040 The most disturbing factor 603 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,560 is that many of our townspeople have been frightened by unusual sounds. 604 00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:36,680 The Warminster Thing began on Christmas Day in 1964 605 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,360 with a lady who was walking very early in the morning to church 606 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,600 and heard a noise in the sky 607 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,080 and lots of vibrations and stuff like that. 608 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,600 At 6:30 that morning, 609 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,240 a local woman walking to her church 610 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,680 along a country lane near Warminster heard a sound behind her. 611 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,640 It was, she thought, the sound of a gritting lorry, 612 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,160 but it was accompanied by a very loud humming noise. 613 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,560 But when she turned round... 614 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,920 ...there was nothing there, and the noise suddenly seemed to go 615 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:27,400 from behind her and vanish off up into the skies above her. 616 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,520 Many, many different sightings over quite a long period of time 617 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,800 by many different people in the community at different places, 618 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,600 but all within Warminster. 619 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,320 And I suspect because there is, at this stage, 620 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,120 no clear explanation 621 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:51,880 of what those phenomena are 622 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,480 or represent, whether they're connected or not connected, 623 00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:01,520 it's been given this rather... loose generic term 624 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,520 the Warminster Thing. 625 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,200 It was the Thing and it's earned itself that title 626 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,520 if you like, the Thing, 627 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,360 because people didn't have a clue what it was. 628 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,720 Then in June 1965, 629 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,400 came the first "sighting" 630 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,160 of what was causing this fury, 631 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,880 the first sighting of the Warminster Thing 632 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,200 and it was reported in the local paper, 633 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:34,280 that what was causing all of this concern, 634 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,160 all of this upheaval, all of this panic, 635 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,440 was a flying saucer. 636 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,680 The early 1960s saw a wave of UFO reports in Britain, 637 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,160 but the epicentre seemed to be around Warminster in Wiltshire, 638 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,000 where stories of alien invasions struck fear into the hearts 639 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,320 of the locals. 640 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,080 They were worried, because it is something completely out of context. 641 00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:03,320 It's not what normally happens in society. 642 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,960 Yes, so that was why they had the meeting and had to turn away 643 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,200 two or three hundred people outside the town hall in Warminster. 644 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,960 The meeting was thrown open to the people of Warminster. 645 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,200 How many people here tonight are afraid of the thing? 646 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,520 How many of you? 647 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,440 At quarter to four in the morning, 648 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,720 I was wakened by this dreadful droning sound. 649 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,960 And I went to the bedroom window 650 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,480 and I saw this brilliant object. 651 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,400 It was quite low in the sky, 652 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,680 and I live up Beacon View that way, 653 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,840 I just couldn't move, and it was going on for half an hour. 654 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,800 But it wasn't just the locals who wanted to know 655 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,200 what was going on. 656 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,360 The meeting also attracted a gaggle of ufologists. 657 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,000 Also in attendance, but trying not to make their presence known, 658 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,040 were men in dark suits from the Air Ministry. 659 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,080 The military were there, but they weren't in uniform 660 00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:06,840 and there were plenty, as I say, a lot of people attended 661 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,960 and clearly it was causing concern, 662 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,840 you know, because no answers could be found. 663 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,320 The meeting didn't really help because, try as they might, 664 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,480 the official explanations didn't convince the citizens of Warminster. 665 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,600 The reason that the rational explanations didn't work 666 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,600 was that the strange events kept being reported. 667 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,480 All of these stories found there way onto the desk of 668 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,160 the Warminster Gazette's chief reporter, Arthur Shuttlewood. 669 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,720 He had a number of sightings which brought to his attention, 670 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,320 that galvanised his interest. 671 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,120 And that's- 672 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,240 The newspapers picked up on it, 673 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,880 especially the Gordon Faulkner famous photo. 674 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:05,320 65, that created wonderful newspaper reports of the Thing, 675 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,160 the Thing, the invasion of Warminster. 676 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,760 The photograph, this groundbreaking picture 677 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,520 of the Warminster Thing, 678 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,120 had been captured by chance by Gordon Faulkner. 679 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:22,320 He'd been out and happened to have his camera handy 680 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,320 when the Thing streaked across the sky. 681 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,000 Ufologists flocked to the town. 682 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,760 So too, according to local press reports, 683 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,960 did television's favourite astronomer, Patrick Moore, 684 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,280 hopefully to catch a glimpse of the Warminster Thing. 685 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,200 In the early 60s, the flying saucer place was Warminster, 686 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,400 Cradle Hill. I went there to do a programme 687 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,200 and talked to all kinds of people, including various journalists. 688 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,920 When one person sees a flying saucer, others will too. 689 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,520 Someone who joined the throng of new witnesses 690 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,120 was Arthur Shuttlewood. 691 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,400 The previously sceptical journalist reported his own close encounter 692 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,760 with the Thing. 693 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,880 He recounted his terrifying experience of seeing 694 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,440 the Thing through a bedroom window 695 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,840 and of grabbing his cine camera and pointing it at the object 696 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,960 as it flew across the sky, only to find 697 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,720 that the camera twitched in his hands 698 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,840 and then flew out of his grasp. 699 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,920 Some reports described a fiery, cigar-shaped object 700 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,280 hovering in the sky, 701 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,400 but most Warminster folk have seen nothing out of the ordinary 702 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,080 and strongly resent newspaper stories about a town 703 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:39,440 living in terror. 704 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,200 The presence of the Thing divided opinion 705 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,560 among the people of Warminster. 706 00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:48,560 I've talked to people who say, that's just a load of rubbish. 707 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:50,320 People really believe that, 708 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,120 and people who say that that's got to be a thing. 709 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:58,360 It's got to be a thing because so, so many people over the years 710 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:03,440 have produced consistent evidence that there is a Thing 711 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,320 and something's going on. 712 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,240 Whilst opinion was split, 713 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,440 there was one group of people who were delighted at the arrival 714 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,360 of little green men in Warminster 715 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,760 because it attracted hordes of ufologists and tourists. 716 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,920 Warminster started in around about 1964-65 717 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,240 and went through till about 1978-80 718 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,960 and then it petered out to about 150-200 sightings. 719 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,680 These things, they're real, they're genuine, 720 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,000 and but it's a matter of sorting the wheat out from the chaff. 721 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:44,680 And that's not crop circles, is it? Or is it? I don't know. 722 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,680 Recently, I was very privileged, 723 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,440 as mayor and chairman of the council, 724 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:54,320 to cut the ribbon to unveil the newly painted mural 725 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,720 to celebrate 60 years of the Warminster Thing. 726 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,960 But the key to a rational explanation for the Thing 727 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,680 might be closer to home. 728 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,720 The army is much in evidence in these parts, 729 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,080 and sceptics say that if odd things are being seen, 730 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:17,840 they're most likely rockets, flares, balloons, or aircraft, 731 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,080 which the army's not talking about for security reasons. 732 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:23,360 There were secret aircraft going around, 733 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,200 and of course some of those were responsible for saucer sightings, 734 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,200 that was the case in Warminster, certainly. 735 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,680 Lots of extraordinary things have happened to me 736 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,520 since I've been in Warminster. 737 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:37,360 But one of those things has not been the Warminster Thing. 738 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,080 Historic reports, including the Warminster Thing, 739 00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:44,760 showed that at the time, and ever since, 740 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,880 the Ministry of Defence has taken the idea of UFOs in general 741 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,920 and the Warminster Thing in particular, 742 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:59,800 very seriously, as a potential issue of national security. 743 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,000 Next time on Britain's X Files. 744 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,000 What happened when Uri Geller's powers were tested by the CIA? 745 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,720 What was the real origin 746 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,800 of a mysterious crater in a farmer's potato field? 747 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,120 Why did the Nazis want the Spear of Destiny? 748 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,160 And we reveal the meaning of a mysterious message 749 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,160 sent over 50 years ago. 750 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,080 Subtitles by Sky Access Services 63613

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