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It doesn’t last us at all. 27 00:04:01.320 --> 00:04:04.560 The money I make in a day is only enough for that day. 28 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:07.680 And if I don’t work for a day, we won’t have anything. 29 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:11.040 Our lives depend on daily wages. 30 00:04:18.320 --> 00:04:22.320 The relationship between marginalised groups and the Nepalese state 31 00:04:22.320 --> 00:04:24.200 goes back several centuries. 32 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:27.200 Since the creation of the Nepalese state lots of ethnic groups 33 00:04:27.200 --> 00:04:29.240 and certain caste groups such as Dalits 34 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:32.160 they have always been excluded from the economic 35 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:35.400 political and cultural life of the state. 36 00:04:35.400 --> 00:04:40.560 And in fact those in power have defined what it means to be Nepali. 37 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:44.080 If you look at statistics now you will see that 38 00:04:44.080 --> 00:04:48.320 an overwhelming majority of people wether in bureaucracy 39 00:04:48.320 --> 00:04:51.520 executive, military, all state organs. 40 00:04:51.520 --> 00:04:54.440 In fact even in non- government organisations 41 00:04:54.440 --> 00:04:56.160 belong to high caste groups. 42 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.840 So you can see how the marginalisation have seeped into 43 00:04:59.840 --> 00:05:03.320 every sphere of society. And its not just political. 44 00:05:03.320 --> 00:05:05.720 Its economic, social, cultural. 45 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:06.720 Linguistic. 46 00:05:07.640 --> 00:05:09.080 On every front. 47 00:05:10.760 --> 00:05:13.000 - Does your family have enough to eat? 48 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:18.360 No, not at all. The lands are barren. 49 00:05:18.440 --> 00:05:27.640 We manage somehow, sometimes we only eat rice gruel. 50 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:32.480 It's not enough to even feed ourselves. 51 00:05:32.880 --> 00:05:37.160 The government gave us land, but it’s infertile. 52 00:05:37.160 --> 00:05:40.920 It would be different if anything grew here. 53 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:42.800 But nothing does. 54 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:48.520 The lands we have only have sand and pebbles. 55 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:55.000 There’s nothing there. We can’t grow anything, not rice, not wheat, nothing. 56 00:05:56.920 --> 00:06:03.520 We have worked as forced labourers for feudal lords with acres and acres of land. 57 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:07.160 Acres and acres of land. 58 00:06:08.960 --> 00:06:16.080 When I try to understand the situation from what I read, heard and witnessed. 59 00:06:16.080 --> 00:06:20.880 As a student, it brings tears to my eyes. 60 00:06:20.880 --> 00:06:29.840 In the 21st century, when science and technology have made great progress. 61 00:06:29.840 --> 00:06:40.760 Capitalism has flourished, people are getting richer and richer. 62 00:06:40.760 --> 00:06:45.560 However, people’s living standards are getting worse. 63 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:55.680 People work 18 hours a day, still their situation is worse than an animal’s. 64 00:06:55.680 --> 00:07:01.800 Despite their hard work they still don’t have enough to make ends meet. 65 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:07.320 They don’t have enough to feed themselves in spite of their hard work. 66 00:07:07.320 --> 00:07:13.960 And that’s because a handful of people take advantage of their hard work. 67 00:07:13.960 --> 00:07:17.480 The situation is dreadful. 68 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:23.160 All I want to say is that if we want peace 69 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:28.280 then everyone has to have freedom. 70 00:07:28.280 --> 00:07:33.320 For instance, there's a high school here 71 00:07:33.320 --> 00:07:38.160 but poor people can't afford to send their kids. 72 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:41.320 Only rich families can. 73 00:07:44.400 --> 00:07:47.880 Education should be free. 74 00:07:47.880 --> 00:07:52.160 Food have to be cheap and affordable. 75 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:54.920 Healthcare has to be free too. 76 00:07:54.920 --> 00:08:00.120 And there should be hospitals and schools in all villages. 77 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:05.120 There has to be a free hospital and a high school 78 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:08.440 in every village. That's all we want. 79 00:08:31.280 --> 00:08:34.120 90% of Nepalese people don’t have access to anything. 80 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:37.040 The situation is extremely difficult for that 90%. 81 00:08:37.040 --> 00:08:39.320 The remaining 10% controls everything. 82 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:42.320 The state agencies, the economy, healthcare, education. 83 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:44.480 They´re in charge of everything. 84 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:48.360 As a result, majority of the population has to struggle to get basic resources. 85 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:54.760 What people want here is change, practical change. 86 00:08:57.080 --> 00:09:03.400 You can not fool people like in the west, giving them some internet and some nice bullshit on TV. 87 00:09:03.400 --> 00:09:07.160 And fill them up with that, or a nice car cause here we don't have roads you know. 88 00:09:07.160 --> 00:09:11.360 So you better really deliver something to the people. 89 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:16.240 Talking about water, health, sanitation, school education. 90 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:18.280 This was never delivered and still not. 91 00:09:18.920 --> 00:09:22.680 You cannot just pay in tax and never see any public implementations in your place. 92 00:09:22.680 --> 00:09:26.320 And only the people on top eating up your money. 93 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:30.000 This is what has been happening all the time here. 94 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:32.280 So there is definitely a big cense 95 00:09:32.280 --> 00:09:36.280 of people to struggle in order to get what they think they should have. 96 00:09:36.280 --> 00:09:40.840 What belong to them, which is the land, the money they give, i mean... 97 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:46.640 The government exists from the people, but it has never given back to the people what it should. 98 00:09:52.120 --> 00:10:00.280 It's the government's responsibility to handle everything within a nation. 99 00:10:00.280 --> 00:10:11.080 But Nepal has been ruled by the monarchy for 238 years. 100 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:15.040 Nepal was ruled by the Rana Regime for 104 years. 101 00:10:15.040 --> 00:10:19.200 By the autocratic Panchyat system for 30 years. 102 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:24.440 Followed by the restoration of multiparty democracy, which lasted for 15 years. 103 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:29.720 During all this time, authoritarian governments have forced their feudal rule on Nepal. 104 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:33.080 That is the biggest reason for the situation in rural areas. 105 00:10:35.800 --> 00:10:38.480 There were two fundamental factors in the Maoist view. 106 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:41.160 And this is more broadly in the communist view 107 00:10:41.160 --> 00:10:43.000 within the Nepali communist movement. 108 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:49.880 First what the Maoist said was, there is structural domination within nepalese society 109 00:10:49.880 --> 00:10:54.520 were certain groups, both in terms of class and ethnicity or cast 110 00:10:54.520 --> 00:10:57.000 have been oppressed for a very long period of time. 111 00:10:57.000 --> 00:11:01.760 And their interpretation of the newfound parliamentary system was classically Marxist 112 00:11:01.760 --> 00:11:04.440 in the cense that they said that; this is formal democracy. 113 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:08.040 It only allows upper cast elites to come to power. 114 00:11:08.040 --> 00:11:14.040 And without social change, it wont be able to bring about any radical, social reform. 115 00:11:14.040 --> 00:11:17.480 And so even if the form of the regime has changed. 116 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:21.680 It is still going to be a regressive, exploitative regime. 117 00:11:21.680 --> 00:11:23.960 That was their primary criticism. 118 00:11:26.800 --> 00:11:29.080 Their second criticism was that. 119 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:31.080 This constitution is establishing a democracy. 120 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:34.600 But left the monarch as a constitutional head of state. 121 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:39.840 This was in theory, but in practice the king still enjoyed a great deal of power over the army. 122 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:43.880 And so one of the Maoist arguments was that this is a sham democracy. 123 00:11:43.880 --> 00:11:47.720 It is not even a real liberal democracy because the king still has ultimate power in this country. 124 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:51.520 The king is the ultimate symbol of feudalism, he is the head of the feudal system. 125 00:11:51.520 --> 00:11:55.360 And without him gone, there can be no real democracy. 126 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:58.840 So, that was why, when the king stepped down and the new order was established, 127 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:02.320 they in principle rejected the new order. 128 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:08.120 But they tactically decided to stay in parliament for six years. 129 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:25.120 People protested peacefully on numerous occasions 130 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:30.560 but the government refused to give people their rights. 131 00:12:30.560 --> 00:12:38.160 People fighting for their rights have continuously been killed since 1940. 132 00:12:38.160 --> 00:12:42.600 Like the killing of Bhim Dutta Panta in 1951. 133 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:48.920 The killing of revolutionary fighters in Jugedi, Jutpani. 134 00:12:48.920 --> 00:12:51.760 And similarly the Sukhani Murders. 135 00:12:51.760 --> 00:12:58.880 The feudal government continued to kill people who raised their voices for justice. 136 00:12:58.880 --> 00:13:02.280 Because it had the power. 137 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:10.240 Between 1992 and 1996 138 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:13.520 there were an increasing number of violent incidents. 139 00:13:13.520 --> 00:13:20.360 Among Maoists and the administration in some of the Maoist core areas. 140 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:22.800 Like Rolpa and Roccum. 141 00:13:22.800 --> 00:13:28.000 And that violence gradually intensified, and the Maoists secretly still continued 142 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:29.960 to expand their organisation. 143 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:36.720 And finally, in 1996, they decided to go underground and start an armed movement. 144 00:13:45.680 --> 00:13:49.120 We believe in the saying: iron cuts iron. 145 00:13:49.280 --> 00:13:52.120 Only guns can ensure victory over guns. 146 00:13:52.520 --> 00:13:57.240 The People’s War began based on the Marxist idea 147 00:13:57.240 --> 00:14:05.120 that we can't get freedom until we defeat a government that relies on arms. 148 00:14:05.400 --> 00:14:13.320 It's also true that we can't win this fight through an unarmed struggle. 149 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:26.160 Essentially, we picked up arms to eventually get freedom from the weapons of the state. 150 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:30.560 Because we didn't have another option. 151 00:14:30.560 --> 00:14:33.680 We tried taking the electoral path as well. 152 00:14:33.680 --> 00:14:36.120 We went in the elections, we also went to the 153 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:39.560 Parliament building and spoke to the politicians. 154 00:14:39.560 --> 00:14:42.760 But we realised that they weren’t going to be able 155 00:14:42.760 --> 00:14:47.360 to solve the problems. We also presented our 156 00:14:47.360 --> 00:14:51.040 40-point demand to the government. 157 00:14:51.040 --> 00:14:54.240 But they failed to respond to it. 158 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:58.640 After that, we had no choice but to take up arms. 159 00:14:58.640 --> 00:15:01.440 When your opponent engages in violence. 160 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:05.600 When the government engages in acts of violence against you. 161 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:08.720 You are forced to counter it with violence. 162 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:13.720 So it was because of this that we picked up arms. 163 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:18.720 It was the only way for us to establish a People's Government. 164 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:31.920 There were 40 demands that the Maoists submitted to the government 165 00:15:31.920 --> 00:15:34.840 before going underground in 1996. 166 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:38.000 Broadly they were related to three things. 167 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:40.320 One against feudalism. 168 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:44.400 For nationality, which means a kind of autonomy against India. 169 00:15:44.920 --> 00:15:50.720 And third is livelihood, meaning demands for social services to the people. 170 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:53.560 These fall into the main aspects of Maoist ideology. 171 00:15:53.560 --> 00:15:56.840 But these demands encompassed a wide range of issues. 172 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:59.960 Including major land reform. 173 00:15:59.960 --> 00:16:04.480 Which was supposed to end structural inequality in Nepalese society. 174 00:16:05.160 --> 00:16:10.320 Or the abrogation of certain treaties that Nepal had signed with India. 175 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:16.560 Which had led to unequal relations and allowed India to dominate over Nepal. 176 00:16:16.560 --> 00:16:18.960 So these were some examples. 177 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:23.720 But these forty demands were submitted as 178 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:25.640 demands to the government. The Maoists said 179 00:16:25.640 --> 00:16:29.800 if you don't fulfil these demands, we will go underground and start a movement. 180 00:16:29.800 --> 00:16:32.560 But actually, it was more like a manifesto because 181 00:16:32.560 --> 00:16:36.160 these were not demands that the government could really fulfil. 182 00:16:36.160 --> 00:16:39.640 It was more like a manifesto that they put forward before going underground. 183 00:16:39.640 --> 00:16:43.520 Yea, they never expected that the government would do anything like that. 184 00:16:49.880 --> 00:16:58.600 There was a lot of oppression in my village, especially oppression of women. 185 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:06.760 Men married two or three women, who had to do whatever the men asked. 186 00:17:06.760 --> 00:17:12.960 Because of gender and class-based oppression, people in my village 187 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:17.880 had to endure a great deal of unfair treatment. 188 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:23.000 There was no development, no healthcare and no education. 189 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:28.000 Witnessing such oppression, inspired me to join the Maoist party. 190 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:34.560 Political leaders visited the village and told us about the party’s mission to free people from 191 00:17:34.560 --> 00:17:43.080 oppression, poverty, and ensuring gender equality and development together. 192 00:17:43.080 --> 00:17:48.040 That influenced me a lot and I joined the party. 193 00:17:55.480 --> 00:18:00.640 After six years of this new government, after the first revolution started the 194 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:05.320 revolution of the farmers that maybe unfortunately called themselves Maoists. 195 00:18:05.320 --> 00:18:08.080 Once again its only a name, you can say whatever you want. 196 00:18:10.080 --> 00:18:13.640 People then decided to take things by themselves 197 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:19.800 and not only change the political top, or changing names of people on top. 198 00:18:19.800 --> 00:18:26.440 They started to change their own village, and they started very Do It Yourself. 199 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:32.280 They started to change their own place. The rich feudal lords in the area 200 00:18:32.280 --> 00:18:37.040 who come to suck them out, and who own the land, they don't let them 201 00:18:37.040 --> 00:18:43.120 come back. They took over the land themselves by force and cultivated it. 202 00:18:43.120 --> 00:18:47.880 To use it for them instead of giving the harvest to the rich people that 203 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:54.640 live in Kathmandu or in India. This started simply, practically, and it worked 204 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:59.640 so well that it spread all over the country. And you can call them Maoists, but we 205 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:02.160 call them farmers in arms. 206 00:19:11.040 --> 00:19:14.400 The initial reaction was disbelief and mockery. 207 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:18.000 It had only been five or six years since the democratic system had been institutionalised. 208 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:22.600 Conventional wisdom was that the communists ideology was completely obsolete. 209 00:19:22.600 --> 00:19:25.280 That these Maoists would go nowhere. 210 00:19:25.280 --> 00:19:32.040 They had no external support, and most parties thought that they had no internal support. 211 00:19:32.040 --> 00:19:40.480 And the prime minister at that time didn't even see it fit to actually properly respond to this. 212 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:44.440 It was thought that these people would disappear within a few months. 213 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:47.040 It was treated as a law and order problem. 214 00:19:47.040 --> 00:19:49.840 They thought that the police would bring them under control 215 00:19:49.840 --> 00:19:51.880 in a very short period of time. 216 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:56.080 This thinking it went on for about two or three years. 217 00:19:56.080 --> 00:20:00.760 Where the government thought that this was a very minor issue 218 00:20:00.760 --> 00:20:03.760 and could be very easily resolved. 219 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:24.960 Workers of the world unite! 220 00:20:27.760 --> 00:20:31.880 The reason I joined the party? 221 00:20:32.080 --> 00:20:40.880 I am from a village. When I was a student, the Maoists were involved in the People's War. 222 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:50.280 They were fighting for the entire nation and the freedom of the people. 223 00:20:50.280 --> 00:21:02.040 For the oppressed, and for justice. To put an end to feudalism. 224 00:21:02.040 --> 00:21:11.400 The party’s slogan about fighting for truth, justice and the people resonated with me. 225 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:20.280 If that could truly lead to the freedom of the people and help oppressed Nepalis 226 00:21:20.280 --> 00:21:27.040 being involved in the war was the least I could do. 227 00:21:27.040 --> 00:21:32.960 So I gave up my education and got involved. 228 00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:44.760 The problems faced by Nepalis, like poverty, weren’t solved by the multiparty system. 229 00:21:44.760 --> 00:21:50.240 The Maoist Party introduced new programs 230 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:58.640 and I joined hoping to achieve radical transformation. 231 00:22:09.840 --> 00:22:11.840 My name is Uday Gharti Magar. 232 00:22:11.840 --> 00:22:15.520 And I'm from this village. 233 00:22:15.520 --> 00:22:16.520 Thabang. 234 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:21.640 Which is also known as 235 00:22:21.640 --> 00:22:24.720 the epicentre of the people's war 236 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:27.880 that lasted for ten years. 237 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.120 When the people's war started i think i was 238 00:22:34.040 --> 00:22:35.640 8 or 9 years old. 239 00:22:35.640 --> 00:22:41.280 We were organised under children's organisation at that time. 240 00:22:41.280 --> 00:22:45.960 Not only me but every child of my age. 241 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:48.920 At that time it was very good feeling, you know. 242 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:55.760 Going out of the village at night, being a part of the big movement. 243 00:22:55.760 --> 00:23:03.880 It was bullets and some money that we used to range. 244 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:09.480 And whenever police came, they used to fire, aiming at us. 245 00:23:09.480 --> 00:23:16.200 That was not a big problem because it was rifle at that time, so we could easily run away. 246 00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:22.640 Like, climb up the ridge you know. Though we were not very big. 247 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:23.920 We were small children. 248 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:29.560 But at that time everyone was perfectly organised. 249 00:23:29.560 --> 00:23:33.600 And they were very disciplined in a way. 250 00:23:33.600 --> 00:23:39.720 Because i think, as i was, other people also were 251 00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:42.480 proud of what they were doing. 252 00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:53.120 It´s hard to even think about it now. It was extremely difficult. 253 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:57.640 In the beginning, we didn't know what the insurgency would entail. 254 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:03.520 We thought it would be like regular politics, so we started with the student union and 255 00:24:03.520 --> 00:24:08.040 the women's union. But there was a lot of suppression from the state. 256 00:24:08.040 --> 00:24:13.240 Especially for people involved in the Maoist party. 257 00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:18.720 They were arrested and captured. Their property was seized by the state. 258 00:24:20.360 --> 00:24:25.360 That drove us underground, so we could only go out during the night. 259 00:24:25.360 --> 00:24:30.400 We could only go among the public at night and forgot what days were like. 260 00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:35.400 For almost two years, we did all our work during the night. 261 00:24:36.560 --> 00:24:41.480 If we had to do public work during the day, we had to be very vigilant. 262 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:46.560 And most of our work, such as training the villagers 263 00:24:46.560 --> 00:24:51.160 and organising them, we did during the night, which was difficult. 264 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:58.160 Police and the army were always looking for us, and we had to be very vigilant. 265 00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:03.880 But after two years, many villages started supporting us. So we could go to the villages 266 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:09.440 during the day and start working closely with the villagers. 267 00:25:23.040 --> 00:25:31.040 As we grow up, we could also be senior student cadres. 268 00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:40.520 If we leave school and go to farming, we could also become 269 00:25:40.520 --> 00:25:43.120 farmers organisation members. 270 00:25:43.120 --> 00:25:48.240 Later the students were going to YCL 271 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:51.000 that is Young Communist League member 272 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:54.160 and they were perfect to be PLA (Peoples Liberation Army). 273 00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:56.800 So these stages were one after another 274 00:25:56.800 --> 00:26:01.360 to refine, or in a way to prepare, or perfect the PLA. 275 00:26:01.360 --> 00:26:03.920 These were the stages one had to undergo. 276 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:08.200 Like this everyone was organised. 277 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:18.320 We learnt many things. And exchange of experience and feelings 278 00:26:18.320 --> 00:26:23.280 with people from far away. It also continued our 279 00:26:23.280 --> 00:26:26.560 raising of our consciousness. 280 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:30.440 That's what I'm happy for. 281 00:26:43.280 --> 00:26:47.800 How long do we have to bear this 16th-century government? 282 00:26:47.800 --> 00:26:51.920 How long do we have to bear this 16th-century government? 283 00:26:52.320 --> 00:26:56.440 All castes and classes that have been oppressed. 284 00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:00.800 We have to ignite a fire of rebellion. 285 00:27:00.800 --> 00:27:05.400 We have to ignite a fire of rebellion. 286 00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:09.640 We urge villages we urge cities. 287 00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:11.760 We urge villages we urge cities. 288 00:27:11.760 --> 00:27:16.960 Let's start a wave of rebellion. 289 00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:22.440 Let's put an end to the tyrannical rule. 290 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.640 Let's establish a democratic republic. 291 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:30.400 Let's establish a democratic republic. 292 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:48.040 Initially, when we talked about women's rights, women didn't want to hear about it. 293 00:27:48.040 --> 00:27:53.840 Men didn’t like it either. So we devised methods to reach out to them 294 00:27:53.840 --> 00:28:01.080 through songs, educational work and social activities. 295 00:28:01.080 --> 00:28:06.080 That’s how we convinced women in the villages. 296 00:28:06.360 --> 00:28:17.520 In my village, Rolpa, women didn’t even step out of their houses. 297 00:28:18.120 --> 00:28:23.360 We organised cultural programs, a fair on the festival of Teej. Where initially no women 298 00:28:23.360 --> 00:28:28.000 participated, now hundreds of women gathered on such occasions. 299 00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:33.360 Some years later, women from the villages were inspired and joined. 300 00:28:33.360 --> 00:28:38.360 Men too encouraged women to participate in the programs. 301 00:28:38.360 --> 00:28:43.400 In the beginning, we convinced women by singing songs, dancing and working with them. 302 00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:48.480 If a husband beat his wife, we told him that it was wrong 303 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.320 and that they could solve problems by talking. 304 00:28:52.320 --> 00:28:57.680 If they did worse things, we used to bring the man among the villagers to solve the issue. 305 00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:18.000 Two years ago, some men tried to rape a woman in our village. 306 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:25.120 It was someone from the Pahadi community or a Rana (higher caste). 307 00:29:25.120 --> 00:29:26.560 Was it a landowner? 308 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:32.000 He wasn’t poor like us, so a landlord or a Rana. But people stopped it. 309 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:38.480 Earlier, there were even bigger landlords, and these men 310 00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:45.000 kidnapped women in public and even from the women’s own homes. 311 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:55.560 Injustice was pervasive. Since the Maoists started working actively here, I've been very happy. 312 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:11.240 First, women hesitated when hearing about the army. 313 00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:14.760 But then some of them joined and felt freed from oppression. 314 00:30:14.760 --> 00:30:17.480 Then many women joined the PLA. 315 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:34.400 We raised awareness in the villages about gender oppression and 316 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:37.680 had discussions and trainings for the women. 317 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:41.560 Violence against women, polygamy and discrimination 318 00:30:41.560 --> 00:30:44.400 of women was problems in the villages. 319 00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:56.800 We raised these issues and incidents and they decided how to solve the problem. 320 00:30:56.800 --> 00:31:01.920 Our work against oppression of women made more and more women join us. 321 00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:06.240 Their numbers increased and they amounted to 40% of the People's Liberation Army. 322 00:31:08.520 --> 00:31:13.440 At first they were just members in the party. But by the end, they had become 323 00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:18.360 commanders and leaders. They showed tremendous progress. 324 00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:35.920 It was only the Maoist party that had a program especially prioritising 325 00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:43.320 women's freedom. Secondly, it was only the Maoist Party that was able 326 00:31:43.320 --> 00:31:50.960 to raise women's political awareness. If you look at our political history, 327 00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:57.400 though women were involved in political movements, it was only the Maoist party 328 00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:01.800 that introduced a clear program meant for women. That's why we 329 00:32:01.800 --> 00:32:08.680 and many other women became a part of the Maoist revolution. 330 00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:18.520 Not all problems were solved when the Maoist Revolution started. 331 00:32:18.520 --> 00:32:25.640 We want qualitative solutions to the problems. 332 00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:32.720 The society 10 or 12 years ago was shaped by conservative, traditional 333 00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:40.080 beliefs that suppressed women. But since the start of the People's War 334 00:32:40.080 --> 00:32:46.280 revolutionary positive changes have been brought about for women. 335 00:32:46.280 --> 00:32:52.440 The Maoist government introduced and successfully implemented 336 00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:58.360 laws in favour of women’s rights. The laws that the Maoist government 337 00:32:58.360 --> 00:33:04.520 made in different areas, be it anti-alcohol or against polygamy and child marriage 338 00:33:04.520 --> 00:33:10.760 have truly empowered women today. Women who were oppressed in the past 339 00:33:10.760 --> 00:33:15.720 have now become actively involved in politics and many of them are 340 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:20.880 working as commanders in the PLA. So the situation for women 341 00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:25.880 compared to the way it was 11 years ago, has largely improved. 342 00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:30.840 Like I said, not all problems have been solved. But it has 343 00:33:30.840 --> 00:33:35.720 improved greatly from how it used to be. Women today have 344 00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:40.800 become a lot more aware of their rights than they were in the past. 345 00:34:09.520 --> 00:34:15.440 So many villagers that don't feel like they are in the country that is called Nepal. 346 00:34:15.560 --> 00:34:17.880 Nepal, in papers you know 347 00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:20.760 they say that is proud of having 348 00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:25.960 so many ethnic groups, so many languages, diverse culture. 349 00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:31.440 But in practice people are not allowed to practice their culture. 350 00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:34.520 And promote their language, their literature. 351 00:34:34.520 --> 00:34:40.840 That's why people wanted their history to be compensated, be repaired. 352 00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:43.360 They wanted their autonomous states. 353 00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.360 It didn't mean that they wanted it to be a separate state. 354 00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:51.480 But they want their history to be preserved in their own state. 355 00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:56.200 And their language to be promoted, their literature to be promoted. 356 00:34:56.200 --> 00:35:00.160 Because Nepal has a history that during the Rana regime 357 00:35:00.160 --> 00:35:04.040 people were not allowed to speak their own mother tongue. 358 00:35:04.040 --> 00:35:07.360 And whoever spoke their tongues would be cut. 359 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:12.280 Their hands would be cut if they tried to write in their own mother tongue. 360 00:35:13.680 --> 00:35:17.480 So was the situation at that time, the history tells us. 361 00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:21.560 And the goal of the movement, the people's war 362 00:35:21.560 --> 00:35:26.000 was to decentralise the state, that mechanism 363 00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:29.800 so that people would be treated equally. 364 00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.680 And that they would have the equal opportunity 365 00:35:32.680 --> 00:35:38.920 to participate in the government or state or in mechanisms of state. 366 00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:40.520 So that was the goal. 367 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:48.280 One of the Maoist innovations was that, very early on 368 00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:50.800 even before the war started 369 00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:56.800 their view of caste and ethnicity in Nepal was very different from the other Marxists. 370 00:35:56.800 --> 00:36:01.280 Like all Marxists they thought that caste and ethnicity were secondary issues. 371 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.520 That class was the primary issue. 372 00:36:03.520 --> 00:36:06.800 But they said that because oppression in Nepal 373 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:11.280 has largely occurred along lines of caste and ethnicity 374 00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:14.640 there is a very strong correlation between a person's class 375 00:36:14.640 --> 00:36:16.760 and his or her caste and ethnic group. 376 00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:22.160 So one big reason why the Maoists spread so far so quickly 377 00:36:22.160 --> 00:36:27.960 was because marginalised groups felt that here was a communist movement 378 00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:32.760 that actually paid attention to their lived reality. 379 00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:36.240 It was able to express, in words 380 00:36:36.240 --> 00:36:40.520 what these people felt their problems were in real life. 381 00:36:40.520 --> 00:36:45.520 What the Maoists also did was create a narrative 382 00:36:45.520 --> 00:36:50.160 in which the oppression of all ethnic groups, or various ethnic groups 383 00:36:50.160 --> 00:36:54.360 could be related to each other and brought together in a national way. 384 00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:57.640 So I think that this was one reason why they were attractive 385 00:36:57.640 --> 00:37:00.320 to many marginalised groups as well. 386 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:08.040 - What do you think about the Maoist movement? 387 00:37:08.040 --> 00:37:11.760 What can I say about the movement? 388 00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:15.720 I hope that if a Maoist government were formed, they would 389 00:37:15.720 --> 00:37:20.720 bring us out of this land and give us better land elsewhere. 390 00:37:20.720 --> 00:37:25.600 We could earn some from our labour and grow some crops on our own land. 391 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:33.480 Until now, neither the Maoist party nor king Gyanendra have done anything good. 392 00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:38.280 If we support the government, the Maoist party will torture us. 393 00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:42.560 And if we support the Maoist party, the government will shoot us. 394 00:37:42.560 --> 00:37:45.520 Either side will kill us. We have many problems. 395 00:37:45.520 --> 00:37:48.960 But what can we bonded labourers do? 396 00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:54.760 - What do you think about the Maoists? 397 00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:58.800 Ever since the Maoist party's revolution started 398 00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:02.800 the situation has been good for us. 399 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.160 I like the message they are spreading among the people. 400 00:38:07.160 --> 00:38:11.480 They've said that they are trying to lead 401 00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:15.800 the government because it's our freedom and our country. 402 00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:20.200 They are fighting for people and not for their own interests. 403 00:38:20.200 --> 00:38:23.600 If we do indeed get freedom 404 00:38:23.600 --> 00:38:27.040 it will be easier for everyone. 405 00:38:27.040 --> 00:38:30.720 No one will suffer financially, no one will have to starve to death. 406 00:38:30.720 --> 00:38:34.080 Even if someone doesn't own land. 407 00:38:34.080 --> 00:38:37.800 The Maoists have said they will manage the lands too. 408 00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:41.520 I hope people won't have to suffer. 409 00:38:41.520 --> 00:38:45.440 I hope they will manage everything accordingly. 410 00:39:08.520 --> 00:39:13.360 The thing is that the country is at war and when you are in a village here 411 00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.840 normally it's very peaceful. 412 00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:20.800 And each valley here since the beginning when Nepal existed. 413 00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:26.160 Each little valley has its own little system, working very well at a small scale. 414 00:39:26.160 --> 00:39:30.800 And very, I would say, anarcho- communist type of system. 415 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:33.280 Without them giving it the name. 416 00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:36.320 It's the way it has been happening. 417 00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:41.160 So Nepal is very peaceful and very anarchic in the good sense of the word. 418 00:39:41.160 --> 00:39:45.200 And very socialist, without knowing it themselves. 419 00:39:45.200 --> 00:39:50.840 Now people have been trying to voice that and to make it clear. 420 00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.320 And it led to a war. 421 00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:56.520 So now when you go into a village it's not as peaceful as ten fifteen years ago. 422 00:39:56.520 --> 00:40:02.640 And people are a bit tense because police are coming there, shooting there, raping there. 423 00:40:02.640 --> 00:40:09.000 Your neighbour can give you to the authority, or to the other authority, both sides, anytime. 424 00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:11.600 Lot of spying nobody trust nobody. 425 00:40:11.600 --> 00:40:14.480 So the situation is pretty tense. 426 00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.400 And the farmers, the revolutionaries 427 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:22.080 are trying to implement a lot of reform. 428 00:40:22.080 --> 00:40:26.360 Mainly for the agriculture, irrigation. 429 00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:31.320 Trying to have formation at the local level of teachers. 430 00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:37.760 And of health workers, medical doctors because it's a thing that has never been done. 431 00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:39.720 Everything has always been centralised here. 432 00:40:39.720 --> 00:40:43.400 So the main idea of the revolution is to decentralize all these things. 433 00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:46.920 But you understand that in times of war it's very difficult 434 00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:51.960 to start to train 50 health workers, 50 nurses. 435 00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:55.280 Because you have the helicopter coming and bombing the place. 436 00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:58.880 Even if you have a red cross on the building it will be bombed. 437 00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:04.840 So the reality is not as nice as it should be. 438 00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:09.120 And Maoists often say that they are very sorry to the people. 439 00:41:09.120 --> 00:41:12.400 That now it's wartime and they can't implement whatever they want. 440 00:41:14.080 --> 00:41:17.280 But things changed over a period of time. 441 00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:20.320 Within five years, by 2000 or 2001 442 00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:24.720 it had become clear that the Maoists had actually spread very far. 443 00:41:24.720 --> 00:41:29.240 They had taken control of a very large section of the countryside. 444 00:41:29.240 --> 00:41:30.720 There were actually districts where 445 00:41:30.720 --> 00:41:34.440 the Maoists were treated as the legitimate government. 446 00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:36.120 Rather than the real government. 447 00:41:36.120 --> 00:41:42.360 In 2001 the police had evacuated from almost all of the countryside. 448 00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:44.960 Because of Maoist attacks. 449 00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:47.200 And there was a great degree of chock. 450 00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:21.280 Well, the economic condition hasn’t improved drastically. 451 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:24.120 That’s because we're still in war, and we can’t expect for things 452 00:43:24.120 --> 00:43:26.760 to change all at once. Farmers, although have been 453 00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:30.200 freed from oppression, still have to face economic problems. 454 00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:34.120 These problems can only be solved when a stable, 455 00:43:34.120 --> 00:43:37.800 competent government will be formed in the country and 456 00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:41.720 when that government will focus on solving problems 457 00:43:41.720 --> 00:43:46.040 faced by the farmers. That didn’t happen at all in the past 458 00:43:46.040 --> 00:43:50.120 and we demand that it happen now. 459 00:43:55.160 --> 00:44:00.120 Well, when it comes to farmers, there are women farmers too in the villages, right? 460 00:44:00.120 --> 00:44:05.080 So, like I said, the changes that have been made in the situation of the women 461 00:44:05.080 --> 00:44:10.240 the entire rural Nepal has also gone through the same kind of transformation. 462 00:44:10.240 --> 00:44:15.280 The village society has been entirely rid of the flaws of the past. 463 00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:20.240 The rule of dishonest people and elites oppressing and exploiting 464 00:44:20.240 --> 00:44:23.840 people in the villages has stopped. 465 00:44:24.240 --> 00:44:26.640 The situation was grim previously. 466 00:44:26.680 --> 00:44:32.640 Farmers with little education was tricked by feudal lords to take their lands. 467 00:44:32.640 --> 00:44:37.720 They also made the farmers pay unfair amounts of interest. 468 00:44:37.720 --> 00:44:42.600 Now many farmers have been freed from such injustice and oppression. 469 00:44:42.600 --> 00:44:48.680 That's the reason farmers got involved in the Maoist party and in the People's War. 470 00:44:48.680 --> 00:44:51.240 The name speaks for itself 471 00:44:51.240 --> 00:44:55.280 it’s a People's War. For the people, along with the people. 472 00:44:55.280 --> 00:45:00.280 People are fighting in this People's War. Because it was people themselves 473 00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:05.280 that were involved in the war, they have played a crucial role in getting freedom. 474 00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:10.280 And many farmers have been freed from the oppression of the past. 475 00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:15.280 I think that’s the reason, and the world has also accepted this 476 00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:20.320 that the Maoist party has captured 80 % of Nepal’s territory. 477 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:25.280 If the Maoist government had failed to address the problems faced by farmers 478 00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:30.280 by women and other genders, ethnicities, and various regions, they would not have 479 00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:35.280 been able to solely govern over 80 % of the territory. 480 00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:40.280 The party addressed these things properly and that’s the reason people 481 00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:45.280 have also approved of them. The farmers have been making progress. 482 00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:50.280 During our movement to establish a federal republic, we felt that the 483 00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:55.520 impact of the Maoist revolution has been growing in the urban areas too. 484 00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:39.400 We are alerting you! Don´t try and force us to leave. 485 00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:51.080 It is our duty to stop you because there is a curfew. 486 00:46:51.520 --> 00:46:54.720 And it is our duty to go ahead and break the curfew. 487 00:46:56.320 --> 00:47:00.800 You have crossed the ring road and broken the curfew, but we have let you. 488 00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:15.200 If you police move to the other side we stay on this side and will not cross you. 489 00:47:34.680 --> 00:47:41.920 Thousands of people are being injured, innocent people are being shot and 490 00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:49.040 lots of people have become sick after being exposed to teargas. 491 00:47:49.040 --> 00:47:56.000 But in this country the person who calls himself king doesn't feel anything or it 492 00:47:56.000 --> 00:48:03.120 doesn't have any impact on him. If the person called king does not feel 493 00:48:03.120 --> 00:48:12.280 the problems of the people he does not have the right to call himself king. 494 00:48:12.560 --> 00:48:18.360 This time the people are coming into the streets to get freedom forever 495 00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:24.360 without thinking about negotiating with the king. 496 00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:32.160 This time we are fighting not only with the king but also with his regime and 497 00:48:32.160 --> 00:48:36.640 the whole monarchy system. 498 00:48:38.560 --> 00:48:44.200 Within a short period of time there will be some sort of change. 499 00:48:44.720 --> 00:48:50.560 There must be! Because the king alone can not keep 500 00:48:50.560 --> 00:48:56.320 this type of huge mass alone. He can not control... 501 00:48:56.320 --> 00:49:01.080 This is beyond the control of the king as well as the political leaders. 502 00:49:01.080 --> 00:49:05.480 Everywhere there is democratic speech. 503 00:49:05.560 --> 00:49:10.920 The rule of king 'Gyaane' is now gone. 504 00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:26.880 There were two ways in which the Maoist 505 00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:29.040 received their early education. 506 00:49:29.040 --> 00:49:34.240 One was through propaganda material sent by the Chinese state to Nepal. 507 00:49:34.240 --> 00:49:38.680 Secondly it was through translations of communist literature. 508 00:49:38.680 --> 00:49:43.400 Which came through India, these were books and magazines translated into Hindi. 509 00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:47.880 And because of Nepals proximity to India the relationship with the Indian communists 510 00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:51.040 was much deeper than the relationship with the Chinese communists. 511 00:49:51.040 --> 00:49:54.360 In the 80s most of Nepals communists decided to adopt a more 512 00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:58.520 a line which they thought was more in consistence with a modern world. 513 00:49:58.560 --> 00:50:00.720 They thought that they needed to participate in democracy 514 00:50:00.720 --> 00:50:03.160 that the soviet system was falling apart 515 00:50:03.160 --> 00:50:06.120 that the old style communist system would not work. 516 00:50:06.160 --> 00:50:09.320 They came to the cities to organise, they were trying to build 517 00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:12.840 their organisation to increase its size. 518 00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:16.360 But in the 80s the Maoists they rejected all these ideas. 519 00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:19.080 They rejected all the new ideas about political reform 520 00:50:19.080 --> 00:50:22.040 Their strategy was still Maoist 521 00:50:22.040 --> 00:50:25.800 meaning they wanted to launch an armed struggle. 522 00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:32.320 Right now there is a curfew even though people are on the road. 523 00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:36.120 Despite of the curfew announced by the government. 524 00:50:36.120 --> 00:50:39.200 And they have no fear. They are not scared of the curfew. 525 00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:42.320 Only their demand is restoration of democracy. 526 00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:44.440 And people should be in power. 527 00:50:46.200 --> 00:50:49.960 They focused, rather than expanding their organisation 528 00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:51.680 and going out to the masses 529 00:50:51.680 --> 00:50:54.600 they focused in a very Leninist kind of a way 530 00:50:54.600 --> 00:50:58.680 on creating a small nucleus, of devoted revolutionaries. 531 00:50:58.680 --> 00:51:03.280 And getting arms and preparing themselves for a long armed struggle. 532 00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:07.440 Of course in 1990 what happened was a big peoples movement took place. 533 00:51:07.520 --> 00:51:10.000 And they were taken unawares, to a certain extent. 534 00:51:10.080 --> 00:51:13.680 So they said that even if we do not support a parliamentary order 535 00:51:13.680 --> 00:51:16.680 we need to participate in this fight against the king. 536 00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:20.720 And they participated in the first peoples movement against the king in 1990. 537 00:51:20.720 --> 00:51:23.240 And they distinguished themselves from the other political parties 538 00:51:23.240 --> 00:51:27.720 in a number of ways, one was their members was much more militant. 539 00:51:27.720 --> 00:51:29.960 Than those of other parties. 540 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:34.440 And their political demands were more radical than that of the other parties 541 00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:41.760 Not only in Kathmandu, in the capital, but all over Nepal people are united. 542 00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:46.120 More and more they are gathering against the monarchy. 543 00:52:46.120 --> 00:52:51.280 If it doesn't give democracy we will go through Maoists. 544 00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:57.240 Then we carry here public democracy, ok? 545 00:53:20.560 --> 00:53:24.760 In the beginning when the Maoist started their peoples war, 1996. 546 00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:27.160 They made a 20 point demand to the government. 547 00:53:27.160 --> 00:53:30.560 Unless its fulfilled they will continue the armed struggle. 548 00:53:30.560 --> 00:53:34.440 And in this point there was lot of hard core communist things. 549 00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:37.280 It can come to taxing the rich people, not taxing the poor. 550 00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:38.360 There were many things. 551 00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:42.760 And through all their struggle they have understood that now 552 00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:46.600 They are not going to be able to get rid of the king, like the french did in 1789. 553 00:53:46.600 --> 00:53:49.640 Because now you have missiles, you have rocket launcher. 554 00:53:49.640 --> 00:53:51.920 And people just don't walk up on the capital. 555 00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:54.720 They can kill the whole population here with a single bomb. 556 00:53:54.720 --> 00:53:57.120 Which was not here 200 years ago. 557 00:53:57.120 --> 00:53:58.680 And this the Maoist have been saying. 558 00:53:58.680 --> 00:54:01.880 That they have to adapt the revolution to the time. 559 00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:05.320 And i think within the Maoist party, contrary to what a lot of people say 560 00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:11.240 there is enough open discussion, that they are ready also to change their opinion. 561 00:54:11.240 --> 00:54:13.760 Or to polish a little bit their angle. 562 00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:17.360 And thats what has happened. I think a few years ago 563 00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:21.800 they have said openly that they are ok to settle their armed struggle. 564 00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:26.000 To stop the arm, even all their demand are not fulfilled, but at least 565 00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:28.120 there should be republic. 566 00:54:28.120 --> 00:54:31.880 And they believe that people want a republic. And everybody knows because 567 00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:33.760 nobody wants a king. 568 00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:37.520 So of course anyways, the country is going to a republic. 569 00:54:37.520 --> 00:54:41.680 But even the Maoist have said, we will lay down the arms 570 00:54:41.680 --> 00:54:45.520 even before there is a republic, when there will be a vote 571 00:54:45.520 --> 00:54:48.560 to the people to ask if they want a republic. 572 00:54:48.560 --> 00:54:51.880 We are ok just even if we go for election 573 00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:54.920 of a constituent assembly which will make a new constitution. 574 00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:58.720 Meaning whether there is republic or not we are ok to lay down the arms. 575 00:54:58.720 --> 00:55:00.800 But we want the real voice o the people. 576 00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:06.120 And thats why they could manage to compromise and to talk to the main political parties. 577 00:55:06.120 --> 00:55:11.280 Who have been until recently put in jail and beaten up by the king. 578 00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:12.880 Who has taken full power. 579 00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:16.720 So they have common enemy of the king. 580 00:55:16.720 --> 00:55:18.960 Where actually the Maoists started against these parties. 581 00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:20.640 With the king only on the side. 582 00:55:20.640 --> 00:55:22.880 So now they found a common enemy which is the king. 583 00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:31.080 People's power! 584 00:55:31.080 --> 00:55:32.080 Long live! 585 00:55:32.080 --> 00:55:33.080 People's power! 586 00:55:33.080 --> 00:55:34.080 Long live! 587 00:55:34.080 --> 00:55:35.080 People's power! 588 00:55:35.080 --> 00:55:36.080 Long live! 589 00:55:36.080 --> 00:55:37.080 People's power! 590 00:55:37.080 --> 00:55:38.080 Long live! 591 00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:41.280 I want to say that the protest should go on. 592 00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:48.240 And the constitutional assembly should be conducted. 593 00:55:49.600 --> 00:55:52.560 And peace will come in Nepal, unless it is not possible. 594 00:55:53.200 --> 00:55:55.560 From the last 50 years experience 595 00:55:55.560 --> 00:55:58.840 when the king gets the opportunity he always attack democracy. 596 00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:02.960 That is why people have come to the conclusion that 597 00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:04.880 king is not necessary for democracy. 598 00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:07.080 Thats why if democracy is to be developed in Nepal 599 00:56:07.080 --> 00:56:08.720 the king should be removed. 600 00:56:08.720 --> 00:56:12.600 Now you can see people are united everywhere, people are gathering everywhere. 601 00:56:12.600 --> 00:56:15.480 Almost in every part of the country, not only here. 602 00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:17.680 Almost everywhere the people are fighting against 603 00:56:17.680 --> 00:56:19.480 autocratic monarchy. 604 00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:22.760 First it was organised by seven party alliance and Maoist. 605 00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:25.520 But right now it is handled by almost all the people of Nepal. 606 00:56:25.520 --> 00:56:29.200 It is not in the hands of political parties, it is not only in the hands of Maoist. 607 00:56:29.200 --> 00:56:32.120 It is being handled by almost all the Nepalese people. 608 00:56:32.120 --> 00:56:35.120 We are actively participating in the movement. 609 00:56:35.120 --> 00:56:37.880 Because the power of people 610 00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:40.280 is greater than the power of monarchy. 611 00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:47.240 Its not optimum that they want to get rid of the king because its a common enemy. 612 00:56:47.240 --> 00:56:51.440 But as we see for a lot of population it is always important moving ahead 613 00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:52.880 they need an enemy to do so. 614 00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:54.960 Thats not very anarchic but thats the way it is. 615 00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:58.400 Because of this understanding they are ok to merge into the mainstream. 616 00:56:58.400 --> 00:56:59.960 Become a political party. 617 00:56:59.960 --> 00:57:05.440 If it is sure that there is a coming election for a constituent assembly. 618 00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:07.120 Meaning making a new constitution. 619 00:57:07.120 --> 00:57:10.160 And they are convinced it will lead to a republic. 620 00:57:10.160 --> 00:57:13.560 And now recently when we saw all the peoples movement 621 00:57:13.560 --> 00:57:18.480 and the king ordering with the chief of army to shoot at the people 622 00:57:18.480 --> 00:57:22.640 there is actually no chance that people if they vote 623 00:57:22.640 --> 00:57:25.360 will not vote for republic. Everybody now wants a republic. 624 00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:27.800 The king he is already in the past. 625 00:57:57.400 --> 00:58:00.320 I think the Maoist rebellion 626 00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:04.560 it uncovered many issues 627 00:58:04.560 --> 00:58:08.640 about Nepali society which had laid dormant in the past. 628 00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:15.560 Specially issues relating to inequality and structural violence. 629 00:58:15.560 --> 00:58:19.400 Which were papered over in earlier narratives 630 00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:21.400 that were dominant politically. 631 00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:23.080 The Maoist brought them to light. 632 00:58:23.080 --> 00:58:25.840 So i think that the ten years of the Maoist rebellion 633 00:58:25.840 --> 00:58:29.840 was a very major churning, both social and political churning 634 00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:31.680 in nepalese society. 635 00:58:56.960 --> 00:59:05.320 The police are beating the people. But the king doesn't care. 636 00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:13.600 The king just want to spray perfume on his fancy clothes. 637 00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:23.880 The king only wants to hear about peace spreading in the country. 638 00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:31.360 But we just want hear about him leaving this regime waiting for the days to his funeral procession. 639 00:59:36.520 --> 00:59:42.600 God Phasmpatis death should come soon to the king. 640 00:59:42.600 --> 00:59:49.360 All the royal family members has to go to the cemetery. 641 00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:54.520 And the crown has to come into the hands of the people. 642 01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:12.920 Your eyes are like an owl and we are waiting for the king's funeral procession. 643 01:01:00.160 --> 01:01:04.320 This is plastic, rubber bullet. 644 01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:10.640 Before i went to my friend, they shoot, directly shoot. 645 01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:12.960 Police yes. 646 01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:26.400 Of course I was here and I was running. 647 01:01:26.400 --> 01:01:30.000 I was running away from here because the policeman was running behind us 648 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:32.240 they were chasing us, thats why we were running away from here. 649 01:01:32.240 --> 01:01:34.520 And I didn't see the scene here. 650 01:01:34.520 --> 01:01:38.440 The bloodshed scene I couldn't see that because I was running this way. 651 01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:44.160 According to the people who were here three people were dead here on this spot. 652 01:01:44.160 --> 01:01:48.240 And some of the people who were killed here they were not identified 653 01:01:48.240 --> 01:01:51.520 and their bodies were taken by police. 654 01:01:51.520 --> 01:01:55.960 Hundreds of people were injured here badly 655 01:01:55.960 --> 01:02:00.600 and they were taken to hospital by the volunteers walking here. 656 01:02:00.600 --> 01:02:04.680 Helicopter were flying in the sky. As soon as the helicopter came 657 01:02:04.680 --> 01:02:07.080 towards the direction, police started firing 658 01:02:07.080 --> 01:02:10.920 to the protesters, without giving them warning. 659 01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:12.680 So it was all of a sudden. 660 01:02:12.680 --> 01:02:14.880 The police fired first. 661 01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:19.840 The demonstrators, they had nothing. Just flags and something else in their hands. 662 01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:24.880 They ran away and som of them who was standing in front was shot dead. 663 01:02:25.160 --> 01:02:30.440 So you can see clearly police is beating people, specially innocent people. 664 01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:35.560 More than a dozen people have been killed here, innocent people have been killed here. 665 01:02:35.560 --> 01:02:42.640 I got to know that some people are taken by police, dead bodies are not given to family members. 666 01:02:42.640 --> 01:02:46.280 So it seems that it is quite tyrannical. 667 01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:51.640 It is going towards a tyrannical state because the police is not responding well to other people. 668 01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:27.520 There is a police man living here. 669 01:04:39.680 --> 01:04:46.840 Up till now in the movement more than 12 people have been killed 670 01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:49.160 by the security forces. 671 01:04:49.160 --> 01:04:53.720 Yesterday while people are in peaceful demonstration the government, the police 672 01:04:53.720 --> 01:04:59.800 use excessive force, used indiscriminately firing, baton charge, teargas 673 01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:01.640 and 3 people have been killed. 674 01:05:01.640 --> 01:05:08.840 The movement have declared them to be martyrs of this movement. 675 01:05:09.680 --> 01:05:14.880 More than 200, near 300 people have been injured. 676 01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:21.160 They are seriously inured, they are in hospital now. 677 01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:24.560 Who will feed me, who cares about my stomach? Who will care for my child, do you people do? 678 01:07:24.560 --> 01:07:32.120 Government has given you the duty but who cares for our children? 679 01:07:32.120 --> 01:07:40.400 We cant bear this empty stomach, for how long time do we have to bear it? 680 01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:46.760 Do you know why people are throwing stones at you? 681 01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:54.640 Because you have violently beaten children and women. 682 01:07:54.640 --> 01:08:02.080 You have taught the people to throw stones at you, they haven't taught themselves. 683 01:08:17.360 --> 01:08:22.440 If you want a real democracy, and if you see your family being shot 684 01:08:22.440 --> 01:08:26.960 or your daughter being raped in front of you, it becomes self defence. 685 01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:29.520 That's exactly how the Maoists started. 686 01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:34.440 This is what makes us angry about the middle class and the upper middle class 687 01:08:34.440 --> 01:08:38.640 living in Kathmandu, a lot of the intellectuals, the ones that 688 01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:41.960 run magazines and news papers and are very political intellectuals 689 01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:45.560 and are very against the king. But at the same time 690 01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:48.880 they are against the violent Maoists. 691 01:08:49.200 --> 01:08:52.320 Now you know, the Maoists didn't just spring from nowhere 692 01:08:52.320 --> 01:08:55.640 they didn't come down from the sky with masks on with guns. 693 01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:59.560 They took up the arms because they saw their own children being massacred. 694 01:08:59.880 --> 01:09:03.400 And the middle classes here they live in huge walled compounds. 695 01:09:03.400 --> 01:09:07.000 They have a name for themselves, so when they go to jail they go to jail 696 01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:10.240 for seven days. They will never disappear or be lost because they have a name 697 01:09:10.240 --> 01:09:13.920 for themselves and international media will be watching them. 698 01:09:14.200 --> 01:09:16.200 Because they have a name for themselves. 699 01:09:18.200 --> 01:09:23.640 Foo Maya Gurung in a village up there is gonna get raped by 12 soldiers 700 01:09:23.640 --> 01:09:24.640 by a platoon. 701 01:09:25.240 --> 01:09:28.440 No one knows her, nobody gives a shit, she gets shot in the head. 702 01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:32.160 Whats her family going to do? Do a peaceful march? 703 01:09:32.160 --> 01:09:34.840 This issue of peaceful protests. 704 01:09:34.840 --> 01:09:37.840 This is so educated middle class bullshit. 705 01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:23.680 This is Gungabo Chowk is changed into... 706 01:11:25.160 --> 01:11:29.360 Gungabo Chowk is changed into Republic Chowk. 707 01:11:29.360 --> 01:11:32.920 Republic Intersection. 708 01:11:33.480 --> 01:11:35.640 You changed the name? 709 01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:40.320 Yes, we changed, not me changed, all nepalese people changed the name. 710 01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:44.120 First Republic Chowk. 711 01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:50.320 Republic Nepal. 712 01:13:51.800 --> 01:14:01.800 So after 2003 the official Maoist ideology was that, we need to get rid of the king first. 713 01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:05.520 And we need to have elections to an elected constituent assembly. 714 01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:10.520 And we need to allow a greater democracy than existed in the past. 715 01:14:10.520 --> 01:14:14.480 At the same time, many Maoists thought that the first step 716 01:14:14.480 --> 01:14:18.840 would be get rid of the king and hold elections to a constituent assembly. 717 01:14:18.840 --> 01:14:23.960 And then after that, as a second step, they would have to get rid of 718 01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:28.840 the parliamentary system and then establish a one party state. 719 01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:31.800 But they were never able to go that far. 720 01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:37.480 After 2006 the king was removed, they entered parliamentary politics 721 01:14:37.480 --> 01:14:43.120 and the dominant faction adopted itself to the parliamentary system. 722 01:14:43.120 --> 01:14:47.680 the faction that was always more in favour of democracy adopted itself 723 01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:49.600 to the parliamentary system. 724 01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:52.920 And the faction that was more Stalinist in nature 725 01:14:52.920 --> 01:15:00.120 it quit the party and formed a splinter group. 726 01:15:00.120 --> 01:15:04.320 And they continue to this day to say that another revolution is necessary 727 01:15:04.320 --> 01:15:05.880 in Nepal. 728 01:15:09.480 --> 01:15:16.040 And in the 2008 election they won a plurality of votes 729 01:15:16.040 --> 01:15:18.240 and they emerged as the largest party. 730 01:15:18.240 --> 01:15:23.600 And they formed a coalition government and the Maoist chairman 731 01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:26.000 became prime minister. 732 01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:29.760 So this was completely unexpected for the other parliamentary parties 733 01:15:29.760 --> 01:15:33.480 and the whole organ of the state. Because they felt that once 734 01:15:33.480 --> 01:15:36.920 the Maoist would entered the parliamentary system it would be 735 01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:41.240 very easy to co-opt them into the system, to weaken them. 736 01:15:41.240 --> 01:15:44.880 And turn them into a regular parliamentary party. 737 01:15:44.880 --> 01:15:47.880 But because they were so aggressive and they expanded so fast 738 01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:52.200 there was a very deep fear that emerged among the status quo parties 739 01:15:52.200 --> 01:15:53.880 and the status quo segments of society. 740 01:15:53.880 --> 01:15:58.520 And soon after they all banded together against the Maoists. 741 01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:04.720 So all the powerful bodies, the main parliamentary parties, the Nepali congress 742 01:16:04.720 --> 01:16:11.720 the CPN-UML, the army, the elite business interests in Nepal and the Indian government 743 01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:15.280 They all decided that they need to counter the Maoists and bring them down. 744 01:16:15.280 --> 01:16:19.440 And because it was a coalition government, and the Maoists didn't have a majority 745 01:16:19.440 --> 01:16:22.840 their government was brought down in 2009. 746 01:16:22.840 --> 01:16:26.200 What happened was, to put it simply 747 01:16:26.200 --> 01:16:29.440 the other political parties and India and the army 748 01:16:29.440 --> 01:16:32.440 decided that they needed to tire the Maoist out. 749 01:16:32.440 --> 01:16:34.640 Refuse to give them anything. 750 01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:38.200 Refuse to let them return to government. 751 01:16:38.200 --> 01:16:41.600 And destroy their party basically. 752 01:16:56.600 --> 01:16:58.920 And on the other hand what happened was 753 01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:01.320 because they were already coming to the mainstream. 754 01:17:01.320 --> 01:17:04.680 They developed a taste for the good life lets say. 755 01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:09.120 Prachanda, the Maoist chairman, started to become very corrupt. 756 01:17:09.120 --> 01:17:11.920 They took over many businesses. 757 01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:16.200 Senior Maoist leaders were known to be dealing in property. 758 01:17:16.200 --> 01:17:21.000 And they lost touch with their grass rots rank and file. 759 01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:25.600 And as a result in their last elections they did very poorly. 760 01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:28.800 And they emerged as a very small force in the current parliament. 761 01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:30.640 So due to these tendencies 762 01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:33.960 in recent years the Maoists have been significantly weakened. 763 01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:57.400 The party changed in a way we did not expect. 764 01:17:57.400 --> 01:18:01.800 Personal interests grew and took hold of the party. 765 01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:07.800 We always spoke of how the party was for the public, for everyone. 766 01:18:07.800 --> 01:18:12.320 But people’s personal agendas took hold of the party. 767 01:18:12.320 --> 01:18:15.640 And all the work we had done during the People’s War 768 01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:18.360 it became difficult to make them institutional. 769 01:18:18.480 --> 01:18:23.160 The party split into several factions, and it couldn’t achieve all that it had set out to. 770 01:18:23.320 --> 01:18:29.000 Any political party, be it Maoist or any other 771 01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:35.080 is a powerful body in the state mechanism. 772 01:18:35.320 --> 01:18:39.680 So a party needs to free itself from personal needs and interests. 773 01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:44.160 When party members are selfish about fulfilling their own goals and not the party’s, 774 01:18:44.160 --> 01:18:48.280 not much can be achieved. A party might have its own interests 775 01:18:48.280 --> 01:18:51.080 or party members can have their own interests to fulfil. 776 01:18:51.080 --> 01:18:53.680 But the most important interests to bear in mind 777 01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:58.480 are those of the people’s, nation’s, and of different communities. 778 01:18:58.480 --> 01:19:02.840 In lack of that, no society, nation can prosper and grow. 779 01:19:02.840 --> 01:19:06.000 That was the reason the People’s Revolution started in the first place. 780 01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:10.760 People in powerful positions taking advantage of it at the expense of other people. 781 01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:14.120 And it’s the ordinary Nepali citizens that have to struggle. 782 01:19:14.120 --> 01:19:18.120 But everyone, including me, has to rise above their own interests. 783 01:19:18.120 --> 01:19:19.120 Well…what can I say? 784 01:19:19.120 --> 01:19:22.280 If I had too thought of my own good, things would’ve been much different for me. 785 01:19:22.280 --> 01:19:24.360 I would probably be much richer now. 786 01:19:24.360 --> 01:19:27.320 I would probably have my very own mansion. 787 01:19:27.320 --> 01:19:31.520 But I live in a small flat, which I share with my two brothers. 788 01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:35.880 If we look at the situation from the public’s perspective. 789 01:19:35.880 --> 01:19:39.480 From the whole nation’s point of view. 790 01:19:39.480 --> 01:19:42.520 I think the situation has declined a little. 791 01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:45.640 But whatever changes has been brought about 792 01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:48.160 it is the result of the Maoist party’s efforts. 793 01:19:48.160 --> 01:19:51.720 And I think everyone has acknowledged it too. 794 01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:56.160 But the sense of accountability in fulfilling the responsibilities, has surely declined 795 01:19:56.160 --> 01:19:58.960 and that has led to problems. 796 01:20:06.320 --> 01:20:09.440 Some of their demands were fulfilled. 797 01:20:09.440 --> 01:20:11.680 For example, the monarchy was abolished. 798 01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:15.200 I think that is probably the greatest contribution that the Maoist made 799 01:20:15.200 --> 01:20:16.320 to Nepali history. 800 01:20:16.320 --> 01:20:18.800 Elections to a constitutional assembly were held. 801 01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:24.000 From 1990 onwards the Maoist had always said that we need a constitution 802 01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:26.400 drafted by elected representatives. 803 01:20:26.400 --> 01:20:30.600 And because of that demand and because of their movement 804 01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:33.600 Nepal eventually elected leaders to a constituent assembly. 805 01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:36.360 To a large extent because of the Maoist movement 806 01:20:36.360 --> 01:20:41.440 the agenda of marginalised groups, of Dalits, of Janjatis, Madhesis. 807 01:20:41.440 --> 01:20:45.560 It became mainstream, it became part of the mainstream political debate. 808 01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:48.320 And to a large extent because of the Maoist movement 809 01:20:48.320 --> 01:20:52.560 the state was forced to adopt the agenda of federalism. 810 01:20:52.560 --> 01:20:54.560 It was not only because of the Maoists, but because of 811 01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:56.840 the Maoist movement and the Madhesi movement combined. 812 01:20:56.840 --> 01:21:02.760 The state was forced to accept that the centralised state had to end 813 01:21:02.760 --> 01:21:07.400 and we need to create federal provinces where power would be devolved. 814 01:21:07.400 --> 01:21:09.800 So these are the accomplishments by the Maoist movement i think. 815 01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:12.120 What they could not accomplish was... 816 01:21:12.120 --> 01:21:16.480 Soon after 2006, they lost their focus on class. 817 01:21:16.480 --> 01:21:22.080 Because the existing system was such that it could not countenance 818 01:21:22.080 --> 01:21:24.600 any significant reform of the state structure. 819 01:21:24.600 --> 01:21:28.800 So there was no reform of the army, the army remained as it was. 820 01:21:28.800 --> 01:21:32.040 The Maoist wanted a major restructuring of the army 821 01:21:32.040 --> 01:21:35.400 to make it more inclusive and representative of diverse groups. 822 01:21:35.400 --> 01:21:40.120 There was no land reform or any other redistributive policy. 823 01:21:40.120 --> 01:21:43.440 Because that was completely blocked by the other parties 824 01:21:43.440 --> 01:21:47.640 and the Maoists also lost interest in that over a period of time. 825 01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:50.400 And more recently i think that 826 01:21:50.400 --> 01:21:54.720 even though federalism was adopted by the new constitution. 827 01:21:56.240 --> 01:22:00.040 The Maoist were in to weak a position to actually fight hard 828 01:22:00.040 --> 01:22:02.560 for the many marginalised groups. 829 01:22:02.560 --> 01:22:07.080 So as a result Madhesi groups and Janjati groups 830 01:22:07.080 --> 01:22:12.080 are still not happy with the form that federalism has given. 831 01:22:12.080 --> 01:22:16.360 Though the new form of federalism 832 01:22:16.360 --> 01:22:20.640 while it represents a progress on what existed in the past. 833 01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:25.800 It still will continue the domination of historically dominant groups. 834 01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:31.560 And won't fully allow marginalised groups to exercise their rights. 835 01:22:36.040 --> 01:22:41.160 From the beginning of the insurgency and finally up to the Peace Process 836 01:22:41.160 --> 01:22:43.480 what we had done during that time was 837 01:22:43.480 --> 01:22:48.480 we had raised awareness about freedom from oppression 838 01:22:48.480 --> 01:22:51.720 and people getting equal rights. 839 01:22:51.720 --> 01:22:54.680 I am sure everyone felt it then. 840 01:22:54.680 --> 01:22:57.400 Firstly, there was awareness about various issues. 841 01:22:57.400 --> 01:22:59.640 From gender equality and women’s rights. 842 01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:04.640 Proportional representation of indigenous peoples in the government 843 01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:09.640 and right to basic needs and life of those living in poverty. 844 01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:14.800 The Maoist movement and the people’s war helped raise awareness 845 01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:17.640 about these things, and i believe this to be the biggest change. 846 01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:23.200 Nepali society has changed a lot, both politically 847 01:23:23.200 --> 01:23:26.600 and in terms of consciousness. There’s no denying that. 848 01:23:26.600 --> 01:23:31.760 There’ve been positive political changes, in the state mechanism 849 01:23:31.760 --> 01:23:37.720 and in consciousness too. Huge changes in these areas. 850 01:23:37.720 --> 01:23:40.840 The state has to treat all its citizens equally. 851 01:23:40.840 --> 01:23:46.320 But there are bigger conflicts. In many countries including Nepal 852 01:23:46.320 --> 01:23:49.360 people have to struggle for access to basic needs. 853 01:23:49.360 --> 01:23:52.360 There’s a disparity between haves and have-nots. 854 01:23:52.360 --> 01:23:56.120 The upper class are really rich, billionaires even. 855 01:23:56.120 --> 01:24:01.440 And the lower class doesn’t even have enough to make ends meet. 856 01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:35.200 See i mean, insurgency has of course created lots of challenges. 857 01:24:35.200 --> 01:24:39.120 We lived our lives dying every day. 858 01:24:39.120 --> 01:24:44.200 Sometime without dignity, without equality, without justice. 859 01:24:44.200 --> 01:24:47.920 Sometimes it was absence of rule of law. 860 01:24:48.360 --> 01:24:51.320 But it has also created a lot of opportunity. 861 01:24:51.320 --> 01:24:54.240 Specially after the peace process started. 862 01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:59.240 Because insurgency not only challenged the political system 863 01:24:59.240 --> 01:25:04.160 but it also challenged the discrimination, inequality 864 01:25:04.160 --> 01:25:06.360 poverty, exclusion. 865 01:25:06.360 --> 01:25:11.560 And they also attracted lots of marginalised and minorities voices. 866 01:25:11.560 --> 01:25:14.800 And for women i would also like to mention 867 01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:19.200 they also challenged the notion that women are weak. 868 01:25:19.200 --> 01:25:24.360 They are biologically weak. They can not fit in the army as a combatant. 869 01:25:24.360 --> 01:25:27.080 Because 40% of women were militia at that time. 870 01:25:27.080 --> 01:25:31.160 So it has also challenged the stereotype and traditional role of women. 871 01:25:31.160 --> 01:25:36.520 And also created opportunity during the peace negotiating process. 872 01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:40.960 Because they had created an environment to make a constitution 873 01:25:40.960 --> 01:25:43.160 through the new constitution. 874 01:25:43.160 --> 01:25:47.320 And the benchmark they made is even in the interim constitution. 875 01:25:47.320 --> 01:25:51.960 Maoist give 40% of seats to women in the interim parliament. 876 01:25:51.960 --> 01:25:56.040 As a indicator of their contribution as an insurgent. 877 01:25:56.040 --> 01:26:00.080 And i think this opportunity has been created 878 01:26:00.080 --> 01:26:01.880 for renegotiating our right. 879 01:26:01.880 --> 01:26:06.520 But that doesn't mean, yes i mean insurgency was one component. 880 01:26:06.520 --> 01:26:10.400 But the way democratisation was started in this country. 881 01:26:10.400 --> 01:26:15.200 The way people become educated and aware. 882 01:26:15.200 --> 01:26:18.240 When you are exposed with the world. 883 01:26:18.240 --> 01:26:22.400 With the knowledge, with the skills. 884 01:26:22.400 --> 01:26:25.720 Then it also creates another opportunity. 885 01:26:25.720 --> 01:26:30.520 So many things has come together and its not again 886 01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:36.640 like people say, oh you people you just talk about western values. 887 01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:38.280 Its not that. 888 01:26:38.280 --> 01:26:40.520 Its our own realisation. 889 01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:44.040 Our own internalisation of issue because we understand 890 01:26:44.040 --> 01:26:47.760 what implication the present patriarchal system 891 01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:49.520 has affected on women. 892 01:26:49.520 --> 01:26:52.800 Why there is a huge disparity between men and women even now. 893 01:26:52.800 --> 01:26:56.320 Wether in politics, wether in decision making. 894 01:26:56.320 --> 01:26:58.760 Wether in education, wether in employment. 895 01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:02.400 In health. Why huge disparity? 896 01:27:02.400 --> 01:27:05.440 Why is women still dying in this country? 897 01:27:05.440 --> 01:27:08.000 Why hundreds of women have maternal deaths? 898 01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:11.600 Why hundreds of women are sexually abused or trafficked? 899 01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:14.560 And is still confronting with the justice system. 900 01:27:14.560 --> 01:27:16.160 We have a problem. 901 01:27:16.160 --> 01:27:19.800 We have a problem with the discriminatory law. 902 01:27:19.800 --> 01:27:21.360 We have a problem with the weak law. 903 01:27:21.360 --> 01:27:27.080 We have also problem with the laws based on a protectionist approach. 904 01:27:27.080 --> 01:27:32.640 Which is limiting our rights in the name of protection. 905 01:27:32.640 --> 01:27:36.560 Because no place is safe for women. Neither home, nor workplace. 906 01:27:36.560 --> 01:27:39.240 Nor street, not only in the foreign country. 907 01:27:39.240 --> 01:27:42.400 So we need to create an enabling environment where women 908 01:27:42.400 --> 01:27:44.280 are able to say no. 909 01:27:44.280 --> 01:27:47.520 Where women feel safe inside the house. 910 01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:49.840 At workplace, in the street. 911 01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:54.160 So we have a opportunity to renegotiate our claim. 912 01:27:54.160 --> 01:27:57.360 Our entitlement through the new constitution making process. 913 01:27:57.360 --> 01:28:00.680 Through the political changes. 914 01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:40.240 The people here, they still are hoping that something will happen. 915 01:28:40.720 --> 01:28:45.080 They can make it happen. 916 01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:53.120 Because they know what the dream was 917 01:28:53.120 --> 01:28:56.200 at the beginning of the peoples war. 918 01:28:56.200 --> 01:28:57.560 It didn't happen. 919 01:28:57.560 --> 01:28:59.560 People didn't get anything. 920 01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:04.040 Just a few people, a handful of the leaders. 921 01:29:04.040 --> 01:29:08.320 Who turned out to be the most corrupt in the nation. 922 01:29:08.320 --> 01:29:10.560 They got something. 923 01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:14.680 In return of so many warriors. 924 01:29:14.680 --> 01:29:19.840 So many peoples liberation army, so many cadres of the party. 925 01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:23.920 Who died during the wartime. 926 01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:31.680 But people who were called to participate in the movement 927 01:29:31.680 --> 01:29:37.200 they didn't get anything. And there was 928 01:29:37.200 --> 01:29:42.360 physically not so much change. 929 01:29:42.360 --> 01:29:48.200 Though their level of consciousness, their level of understanding 930 01:29:48.200 --> 01:29:51.000 was quite good. 931 01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:57.000 But still we remember the glorious days of our movement. 932 01:29:57.000 --> 01:30:01.960 So every year we gather here, the people from neighbouring villages 933 01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:07.200 also gather here and we tell each other 934 01:30:07.200 --> 01:30:14.840 the dreams we dreamt every time will happen one day. 935 01:30:14.840 --> 01:30:22.080 And still people are not giving up. 936 01:30:22.080 --> 01:30:30.480 And i think they will just come together. 937 01:30:30.480 --> 01:30:34.720 to fight against the corruption 938 01:30:34.720 --> 01:30:42.360 and the state that is always oppressive to them. 939 01:33:34.040 --> 01:33:37.680 Are you from Sweden or Switzerland? 940 01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:41.680 Please let the people in Sweden know that 941 01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:44.640 Nepali citizens are not terrorists 942 01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:47.640 that they're fighting for their rights. 943 01:33:47.640 --> 01:33:50.640 And they are fighting with Marxism-Leninism- 944 01:33:50.640 --> 01:33:53.520 Maoism-Prachandapath as their weapon. 945 01:33:53.520 --> 01:33:56.520 And you too, rather than bearing the 946 01:33:56.520 --> 01:33:59.520 expenses of your monarchy, we encourage you 947 01:33:59.520 --> 01:34:02.560 to follow the right ideology and fight. 948 01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:05.520 It will be a difficult fight but it won't be impossible. 949 01:34:05.520 --> 01:34:08.480 Nepali people believe that you will win. 950 01:34:08.480 --> 01:34:11.520 And we hope that, like Nepali people 951 01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:14.400 the citizens of Sweden will support our movement too. 952 01:34:14.400 --> 01:34:16.000 Thats all. 89779

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