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[singing] 17 00:01:00,260 --> 00:01:02,280 >> [music] 18 00:01:06,155 --> 00:01:10,740 [music] 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,760 >> Oh yeah. 20 00:01:10,740 --> 00:01:12,760 [music] 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,320 >> Well, you got me [singing] running. 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:22,080 >> You got me down. 23 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:25,759 >> Got me [music] up. Got me up, down, 24 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:28,425 down, [singing] up. Anywhere you want to 25 00:01:25,759 --> 00:01:29,600 go. 26 00:01:28,425 --> 00:01:34,375 >> [music] 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,375 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [singing] 28 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,799 Oh yeah. 29 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:42,880 You got me [singing and music] doing 30 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:46,166 what you want me. Well, baby, what you 31 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,166 want me to do? [music] 32 00:01:52,159 --> 00:01:56,240 >> Next question. At the beginning when I 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,680 joined, Paul was the only one who'd 34 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,920 sleep with me. 35 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,240 >> Well, there was actually a little bit of 36 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:04,079 a a thing to that. I 37 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,560 >> was never very prejudiced. 38 00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:09,119 >> No, I thought that was the best 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,280 >> move really because when you joined and 40 00:02:09,119 --> 00:02:12,720 you were like the new fellow and nobody 41 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,440 and I thought, well, if I hang out with 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,520 you, then they'll all be like, you know, 43 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,680 >> so I thought it'd be good to, you know, 44 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,080 >> put Paul with him because [laughter] 45 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,239 because then it would be all right then. 46 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,840 >> Yeah. Anyway, but then it changed. It 47 00:02:24,239 --> 00:02:28,959 would be with anybody. I mean, for a 48 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,720 while we wild be John and I, we didn't 49 00:02:28,959 --> 00:02:31,280 we just sort of, you know, went on for 50 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,959 different 51 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,720 >> actually. I enjoyed it a lot cuz, you 52 00:02:32,959 --> 00:02:36,560 know, it wasn't the kind of thing you'd 53 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,360 done much. I mean, as kids, we'd 54 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,959 hitchhiked. So, like me and George got 55 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,120 down to Harlock and you'd sort of sleep 56 00:02:40,959 --> 00:02:46,000 in the same bed and just cuz, you know, 57 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,360 it's like a bed B&B kind of thing. We I 58 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,040 hadn't really done much of that being 59 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,319 away from home when we started. I 60 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,200 haven't done any of it cuz I'm an only 61 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:53,840 child 62 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,160 >> and you're butlins almost. 63 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,519 >> Yeah. 64 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,200 >> Yeah. But I still slept on my own. 65 00:02:55,519 --> 00:02:58,400 >> So it was kind of good, you know, and so 66 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,080 um 67 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,239 >> it was great. You sort of staying in a 68 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,640 room with a friend and that and seeing 69 00:03:02,239 --> 00:03:06,800 his habits. I mean you you stayed up 70 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:08,239 late, didn't you? He couldn't sleep. 71 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,680 >> So you'd always have to he'd have to 72 00:03:08,239 --> 00:03:11,519 have the light on. [laughter] 73 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:14,560 >> So I was frightened of the dark. 74 00:03:11,519 --> 00:03:15,680 >> He was Oh wow, poor. So you'd have to 75 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,360 you know he'd have the light over there 76 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,680 and you'd have to sleep this way. You 77 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,879 couldn't like passenger. It was good 78 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,519 though. You know, you get to know each 79 00:03:20,879 --> 00:03:24,519 other a bit that way. 80 00:03:25,017 --> 00:03:27,037 [music] 81 00:03:33,532 --> 00:03:35,552 [music] 82 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:51,159 Hey, hey, hey. 83 00:03:58,422 --> 00:04:00,442 [music] 84 00:04:06,319 --> 00:04:09,319 Yeah. 85 00:04:10,212 --> 00:04:12,232 >> [music] 86 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:19,437 >> Oh yeah. 87 00:04:17,417 --> 00:04:19,437 [music] 88 00:04:25,278 --> 00:04:27,297 [music] 89 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,040 Oh yeah. 90 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:39,000 Yeah. [music] 91 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,000 Oh yeah. 92 00:04:39,688 --> 00:04:41,708 >> [music] 93 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:52,120 >> Okay, one more time. There we go. 94 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:03,680 >> You know, my hair I'm still trying to 95 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:06,400 make it go back like rock and roll. 96 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:08,800 Uh but really naturally it just goes 97 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:11,680 forward and we used to use that Vaseline 98 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:14,080 like really thick Vaseline and just get 99 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:17,120 it go back like that and I remember once 100 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:19,440 we went to the swimming baths in Hamburg 101 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,360 and I remember walking back down towards 102 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,800 the reaper bar and it dried and it was 103 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:27,199 all like that and then by the evening we 104 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:30,000 saw our friends who was all in yoga and 105 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:31,919 acid and I remember them saying oh no no 106 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,840 don't do that it's leave it like it is 107 00:05:31,919 --> 00:05:37,039 it's really Good. It was kind of like 108 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:38,880 that and everybody around that time was 109 00:05:37,039 --> 00:05:40,240 starting to just because of their 110 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,759 influence. If they'd had said, "No, no, 111 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,000 it's NAF," we would have probably 112 00:05:41,759 --> 00:05:45,440 changed it. But cuz they liked it, then 113 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,280 we liked it. 114 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,000 >> We didn't really go with it in a major 115 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:49,840 way. We still 116 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,400 >> when it got into a permanent 117 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:55,039 >> Well, I remember when John and I went to 118 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,800 he had his 21st and he got 100 quid off 119 00:05:55,039 --> 00:06:00,160 his uncle who was a dentist in 120 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:02,240 Edinburgh. um [snorts] 121 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,759 you know very very elevated stuff that 122 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,319 we'd never known the likes of like 123 00:06:03,759 --> 00:06:08,000 anyone who had a relative as a dentist 124 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:10,400 even 125 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,000 100 quid well to this day I say no one's 126 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,160 ever given me 100 quid on my birthday 127 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,680 smack 100 smackers 128 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,560 that was I mean and then obviously you 129 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,080 can imagine it was just like 130 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,039 >> only I'd have known last 131 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,600 >> yeah me too 132 00:06:19,039 --> 00:06:22,160 >> yeah 100 smackers next time next time 133 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,639 but um 134 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:27,759 >> I even have it [laughter] 135 00:06:24,639 --> 00:06:29,680 >> but John got these this 100 quid so He 136 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:31,600 said, "Oh, you know what should we do?" 137 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,080 We were hanging out. So, we decided to 138 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,639 go to Spain, spend this 100 quid. We got 139 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:39,840 as far as Paris. We hitchhiked, got as 140 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:41,680 far as Paris, um, and decided, "No, 141 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:43,759 we'll maybe go to Spain, maybe later in 142 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,840 the week." And we kept liking Paris. 143 00:06:43,759 --> 00:06:48,240 Anyway, we bumped into Jurgen, who was 144 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:50,560 our friend from Astrid and Jurgen and 145 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,479 Clouse. Bumped into Jurgen and said, 146 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,720 "Um, 147 00:06:52,479 --> 00:06:56,000 your hair's nice, you know, could you do 148 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,199 ours like that?" Yeah. 149 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,319 >> So he said, "Are you sure you want 150 00:06:57,199 --> 00:07:02,639 this?" You know, maybe no one, you know, 151 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:04,560 we're on holiday, Paris, go on and all 152 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:06,880 that. And so he did it. Then we arrived 153 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,319 back in Liverpool with this sort of me 154 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,080 and John with this sort of funny hair 155 00:07:08,319 --> 00:07:11,440 forward like you were saying and 156 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,479 everyone was a bit dubious [music] about 157 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:17,520 it, but it just just fell into the thing 158 00:07:14,479 --> 00:07:17,919 then and we sort of kept it forward. 159 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,520 >> Sounds. 160 00:07:17,919 --> 00:07:21,840 >> And you brushed yours forward. Ringo 161 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,599 always had a big gray shock under there 162 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,080 from when he was a kid. Well, he had to 163 00:07:23,599 --> 00:07:26,319 have his push done to join the band 164 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,080 then. 165 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:29,759 >> And he had the only way I could join. 166 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,360 >> And it was like uh what's his name? 167 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:32,960 >> But it was cool cuz it when it come 168 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,560 forward, you didn't see his grave. 169 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:37,039 >> He had a beard, too. 170 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,840 >> Beard's got to go 171 00:07:37,039 --> 00:07:38,720 bloody rich. 172 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,520 >> Put your head in. 173 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,960 >> You know, we want to see these faces. 174 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,639 >> Yeah. We've got a look. 175 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:48,240 >> [ __ ] face, man. We don't want beards 176 00:07:46,639 --> 00:07:48,960 >> like this. Actually, just before I 177 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,800 joined you guys. 178 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:54,479 >> That's right. Yeah. Only with a suit. We 179 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:56,560 actually saw a London band in Hamburg 180 00:07:54,479 --> 00:07:58,720 and one of these London bands had this 181 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:01,520 boot with a big point. It had like a 182 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:04,080 chisely pointy toe and a Cuban heel and 183 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:07,199 we thought, "hm, they're good. Where did 184 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:09,599 you get those?" And he said, "Uh, it's 185 00:08:07,199 --> 00:08:11,199 in London. It was called Anelo and 186 00:08:09,599 --> 00:08:13,199 David's." And we went to Anelo and 187 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:15,199 Davids and bought those boots. And then 188 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:18,000 later we thought, "Hey, they make them. 189 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:20,000 We'll make our get our own." Well, the 190 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,720 one that became the Beetle Boot was like 191 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,319 ones we had made. But the original one, 192 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,599 you remember, he had that elastic down 193 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:26,080 the side and 194 00:08:25,599 --> 00:08:27,360 >> Yeah. 195 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,120 >> Yeah. 196 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,960 >> It was a ballet shop, wasn't it? Vanilla 197 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,519 and David was ballet made ballet stuff 198 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,120 and tutus and and shoes you could where 199 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:36,719 all the little girls went. So, we'd be 200 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,800 making our uh 201 00:08:36,719 --> 00:08:40,800 >> we were getting our um beetle boots made 202 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,959 and there' be little tutu ladies with 203 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,800 their children, you know. 204 00:08:42,959 --> 00:08:47,440 >> No, you had the tutu. 205 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:49,120 >> I never did. I never had one of them. 206 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,160 I just said, "Well, it was Ringer. His 207 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,560 feet bandage, wasn't it?" 208 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,000 >> Yeah. 209 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:54,486 >> It had to go into those little belly 210 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,519 shoes. 211 00:08:54,486 --> 00:08:57,761 [laughter] 212 00:08:55,519 --> 00:08:58,480 >> So, we had a man and then later 213 00:08:57,761 --> 00:09:01,760 [clears throat] 214 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:04,080 >> we had uh you know, we started realizing 215 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,560 you can get whatever you wanted. So, cuz 216 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,560 at first they were all the same. Then we 217 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:08,959 could have like when we made the film 218 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:12,399 size, 219 00:09:08,959 --> 00:09:15,040 >> we get a I got a cord. What boots would 220 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:17,279 go? I'll get cord boots. just give them 221 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:21,360 the same fabric and make them. And then 222 00:09:17,279 --> 00:09:23,306 we had like ankle ones, calf ones, knee 223 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,760 eye, you know, all kinds of ones. 224 00:09:23,306 --> 00:09:26,800 [music] 225 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:30,279 >> Then there was this one that went, 226 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,279 >> "Oh, no. 227 00:09:31,166 --> 00:09:33,186 [music] 228 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,880 >> I've been thinking of linking my life 229 00:09:36,959 --> 00:09:43,200 with you. [music] 230 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:44,800 >> Thinking linking love so true. 231 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:50,279 thinking of linking [music and singing] 232 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:50,279 can only be done by two. 233 00:09:50,816 --> 00:09:52,836 [music] 234 00:09:52,959 --> 00:09:57,440 Yeah, one of the first. 235 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,440 >> It was about one of the first ones. 236 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,000 There was a commercial in the on the on 237 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,320 the cinema for link furniture called 238 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:07,320 Thinking of Lincoln. We went the 239 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,320 pictures. 240 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:13,141 Good intro. Good intro. Yeah. 241 00:10:11,121 --> 00:10:13,141 [music] 242 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:19,637 Well, I've been thinking of linking my 243 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:22,720 love so true. Thinking of linking 244 00:10:19,637 --> 00:10:26,560 [music and singing] my life with you. 245 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:29,560 Thinking of linking can only be done by 246 00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:29,560 two. 247 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,079 There's no second verse. 248 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:41,200 Thank you. 249 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:42,000 >> Cost 75 quid. My first car 250 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,880 >> off Johnny Hutch. 251 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 >> That was a good car. 252 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,320 >> Was it off Johnny Hutch? 253 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,279 >> Johnny. 254 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,120 >> Now, what color was it? 255 00:10:45,279 --> 00:10:47,839 >> Red and white. Hand painted. 256 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,959 >> Yeah. 257 00:10:47,839 --> 00:10:51,680 >> Painted by hand. And you had a green 258 00:10:50,959 --> 00:10:52,160 Anglia. 259 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:53,040 >> Blue. 260 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,560 >> Blue. 261 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,640 >> That was much later though. 262 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:57,200 >> Yeah. I took you to get that car. 263 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,320 >> Did you? 264 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,959 >> Yeah. I took you to 265 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,160 >> Warington. 266 00:10:58,959 --> 00:11:01,839 >> Yeah. 267 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,399 >> And as we were coming home, you may not 268 00:11:01,839 --> 00:11:02,959 remember. 269 00:11:02,399 --> 00:11:05,440 >> Oh, yeah. 270 00:11:02,959 --> 00:11:07,839 >> You were speeding and I was speeding 271 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,279 >> and we were both 272 00:11:07,839 --> 00:11:11,760 >> close to each other. and you overtook 273 00:11:09,279 --> 00:11:13,760 this car in front. And I got right up to 274 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:16,240 this car and I was ready to overtake 275 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,680 him. Just as I got right up his ass, a 276 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,160 dog ran out in front of him. So he 277 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:21,279 slammed on his brakes. I smashed right 278 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,079 into him, [laughter] 279 00:11:21,279 --> 00:11:26,399 broke the [ __ ] out of my car, but was 280 00:11:24,079 --> 00:11:28,640 lucky. It was by a garage cuz I drove 281 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:30,480 Well, we pushed it into the garage 282 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,920 because I had no license or insurance. 283 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,720 >> Did I stop or did I keep going? 284 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,560 >> Oh, you just kept going. 285 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,880 >> I didn't see you. You just didn't give a 286 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:36,079 damn. 287 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,959 >> Even till this day, [laughter] I never 288 00:11:36,079 --> 00:11:38,959 knew about that. 289 00:11:36,959 --> 00:11:42,560 >> Yeah. Cool, man. 290 00:11:38,959 --> 00:11:45,519 >> Well, couldn't we do Blue Moon? 291 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:47,040 Blue Moon. 292 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:50,279 >> Yeah, man. He's got the chords. What's 293 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,279 the opening? 294 00:11:52,079 --> 00:11:57,040 >> Well, just a short version. [music] 295 00:11:54,800 --> 00:12:01,163 Blue moon, 296 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:03,279 blue moon, keep shining bright. 297 00:12:01,163 --> 00:12:07,713 [music] Blue moon, keep on shining 298 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:07,760 bright. My baby back tonight. 299 00:12:07,713 --> 00:12:09,680 >> [music] 300 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,639 >> Shine bright. 301 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:14,560 I said blue moon just to keep on 302 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:16,720 shining. 303 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:18,560 Shine on one that's going [music] to let 304 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:23,360 me blue. 305 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:25,760 Well, blue moon just to keep on shining. 306 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,363 Shine on one that's going to let me 307 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,160 blue. 308 00:12:27,363 --> 00:12:32,560 [music] But it was only right night when 309 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:35,200 the stars shine bright. [music] 310 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:39,880 Wind blowing high. My [singing] love 311 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,880 said by the moon 312 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,680 shine on the wall that's going [music] 313 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:49,600 to let me blue 314 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:51,279 on the wall that's going to let me 315 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:55,079 shine on the wall that's [music] going 316 00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:55,079 to let me blue. 317 00:12:56,079 --> 00:13:00,320 >> So did you ever bad leg? 318 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,160 >> Did you ever meet Elvis again? 319 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,880 >> I felt I'd met him several times. 320 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,699 >> You felt him? 321 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:08,120 >> Yeah. Well, no wonder he didn't 322 00:13:04,699 --> 00:13:08,120 [laughter] stand up. 323 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:12,720 >> You mean you remember him? Well, 324 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,279 >> some memories that I met him several 325 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:13,920 times, 326 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:17,440 >> but 327 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:19,760 >> maybe it was just the one night 328 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,920 to him. [laughter] 329 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,480 >> It's called flashbacks, I think. 330 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,680 >> Yeah. 331 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,680 >> Did you meet him again? 332 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:28,240 >> No, I met him just once. You met him? 333 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:30,720 >> I met him in Madison Square Garden when 334 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:33,040 he was just I suppose a couple of years 335 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,320 before the end. It was sad really 336 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,200 >> rhinestone 337 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,040 >> because he um 338 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,920 >> it was like he had all them squawking 339 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,519 girl singers and trumpet players and all 340 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,600 that stuff but he had a great rhythm 341 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:46,240 section James Burton and uh 342 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,959 >> sure 343 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:51,600 >> and all that gang and uh I just wanted 344 00:13:48,959 --> 00:13:54,160 to say to him just get your jeans on and 345 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,200 get your guitar and just do that. I went 346 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,440 to see him in Vegas 347 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:00,160 >> and bugger all that other crap in the 348 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:02,959 70s thing about 349 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,240 >> after the um 350 00:14:02,959 --> 00:14:07,240 >> Oh, you saw him in Vegas. 351 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,240 >> Yeah. 352 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:13,360 >> I only met him that once that night 353 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:15,279 >> he was when I saw him I was like a 354 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:18,800 hippie and I had all this denim on and I 355 00:14:15,279 --> 00:14:22,880 had long stuff down to here. It was in 356 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:25,760 the early 70s and uh I went backstage to 357 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:28,560 meet him and you know those big dressing 358 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:30,880 rooms like you know miles of toilets and 359 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:33,600 stuff and so I was sitting there talking 360 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,519 to the guys again and he was nowhere to 361 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,440 be seen and then finally came around the 362 00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:39,199 corner and he had that big white outfit 363 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,040 with all the gold things and big belt 364 00:14:39,199 --> 00:14:44,480 buckle like this and he looked like 365 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:47,590 Ringo. It was all his beard was was 366 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,590 varnished. [laughter] 367 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,240 No, you know, all his hair was black and 368 00:14:50,079 --> 00:14:54,160 he was all tanned and stuff and he 369 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:57,279 seemed like I thought I was meeting 370 00:14:54,160 --> 00:15:00,240 Vishnu or you know Krishna or somebody. 371 00:14:57,279 --> 00:15:02,959 It was just like wow and I just felt 372 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,320 like this little snotty grubby little 373 00:15:02,959 --> 00:15:07,199 you know hello Elvis how are you? you 374 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:11,680 know, and he was like, "Hey, [laughter] 375 00:15:07,199 --> 00:15:13,760 just this big white thing and and I just 376 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,839 wanted to say, oh, why don't you just 377 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:18,720 just go and do That's all right, Mama." 378 00:15:15,839 --> 00:15:22,905 And um, you know, 379 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:23,839 chick singers or I did it my way. 380 00:15:22,905 --> 00:15:25,519 [singing] 381 00:15:23,839 --> 00:15:26,320 It was sad, but he did a couple of good 382 00:15:25,519 --> 00:15:29,120 tunes. 383 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:31,600 >> Yeah. But did you ever meet him again? 384 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,680 >> Not after that day, 385 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:37,560 but he was great when he was great. 386 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,560 Ain't [music and singing] she sweet? 387 00:15:38,639 --> 00:15:44,480 I ask you [singing and music] very 388 00:15:40,399 --> 00:15:46,079 confidentially. Ain't she sweet? 389 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,639 Cast an eye [music] 390 00:15:46,079 --> 00:15:51,199 in her [singing] direction. 391 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:53,690 Hold me. Oh my. [music] 392 00:15:51,199 --> 00:15:54,399 Ain't that perfection 393 00:15:53,690 --> 00:15:57,519 [singing] 394 00:15:54,399 --> 00:15:58,931 though? I repeat. 395 00:15:57,519 --> 00:16:01,040 Don't you think she's kind of 396 00:15:58,931 --> 00:16:06,320 [music and singing] sweetly now? That's 397 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:08,800 it very confidentially. Ain't she sweet? 398 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:13,160 Ain't she [singing] sweet? 399 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:13,160 Ain't she 400 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,880 >> sweet? 401 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:18,560 >> Let's go. 402 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,839 >> Well, this has really been a a really 403 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,560 nice day for me, chap. 404 00:16:19,839 --> 00:16:23,680 >> It's been a pleasure for me, too. 405 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,959 >> We're going to have to see you for the 406 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,759 next 40 years. 407 00:16:24,959 --> 00:16:27,440 >> Yeah. [laughter] 408 00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:29,519 Well, that should end the series. We 409 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,920 could end on this note then. And 410 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:32,399 >> but I think it was Candlestick Park. 411 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,160 >> Yeah. 412 00:16:32,399 --> 00:16:35,360 >> No, it wasn't. It was 413 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,199 >> This is Candlestick Park. 414 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,720 >> This is Candlestick Park. 415 00:16:37,199 --> 00:16:41,199 >> No, it's been a very nice day. Thanks 416 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,440 for having us, George. Thank you. 417 00:16:41,199 --> 00:16:44,880 >> Been really beautiful and moving for me. 418 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,680 I like hanging out with you two [music] 419 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:51,399 guys. 420 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,399 >> Little churchy face. 421 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:03,000 Golden slurs. 422 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,360 I know. It was an old uh an old song, 423 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,640 isn't it? It's an old 424 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:10,559 >> Well, when did you write it? 425 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,760 >> Well, I mean, it's not my lyrics. It's 426 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:17,360 an old It's like It's ancient uh really. 427 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:20,000 >> It's sort of Yeah, it's like an old 428 00:17:17,360 --> 00:17:21,199 wrote arranged. 429 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,600 Yeah. 430 00:17:21,199 --> 00:17:26,319 >> Trad arranged with tune. 431 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,720 I put the tune to it. It's my tune. 432 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:30,720 >> But um it was at my dad's house. 433 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,320 >> You put the traditional drums on it. I 434 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,080 was at my dad's house and it was one of 435 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,240 those sheep music things that was up to 436 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,160 learn piano and I just like the lyrics 437 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,559 and stuff. So I started I couldn't read 438 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,200 the music so I started doing my tune to 439 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:42,400 it. 440 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:46,407 >> Which album was this? 441 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,407 >> This was on Abby Road. [laughter] 442 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,080 You're George, [music] 443 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,480 >> foremost bele expert. 444 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:57,919 >> George has 445 00:17:54,480 --> 00:18:02,039 >> to get back home [singing and music] 446 00:17:57,919 --> 00:18:02,039 base and piano so far. 447 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,057 >> Once there was [singing] a way [music] 448 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:11,600 to get back home. 449 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:14,080 Sleep pretty darling, [singing] 450 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,600 do [music] not cry. 451 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,200 >> That's not a piano. 452 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:20,200 >> And I will sing [music and singing] 453 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,200 along. 454 00:18:21,679 --> 00:18:27,672 >> Carry that weight. 455 00:18:23,919 --> 00:18:27,672 Those are together. [music] 456 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,912 Smile [singing] 457 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,752 when you rise. 458 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,840 Sleep pretty darling, 459 00:18:38,752 --> 00:18:43,400 [singing and music] 460 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,400 do not cry. 461 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:49,160 And [singing] I will sing along [music] 462 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,160 by 463 00:18:49,919 --> 00:18:52,563 the way [singing] 464 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,360 to [music] get back home. 465 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,799 >> I don't think you are on it. Didn't 466 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:00,160 sound like you are. 467 00:18:58,799 --> 00:19:01,200 >> Didn't sound like anybody's on it. 468 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,643 >> Wasn't you, was it? 469 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:06,918 >> Well, unless it was overdubbed. 470 00:19:03,643 --> 00:19:07,360 [music] Why would you ever take one? 471 00:19:06,918 --> 00:19:11,320 [singing] 472 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:11,320 >> Because he was playing the piano. 473 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,679 >> I think I'm playing piano. [music] So, 474 00:19:13,679 --> 00:19:17,919 who was playing bass? 475 00:19:15,679 --> 00:19:19,360 >> I think I'm over at the same time. 476 00:19:17,919 --> 00:19:21,039 >> He overdumped it. Can you 477 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:24,003 >> You can hear the sound of it. It's like 478 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:24,003 directing Jake. [music] 479 00:19:24,603 --> 00:19:25,200 >> [singing] 480 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:29,120 >> You 481 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:32,440 >> give many takes. Take 17. 482 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:32,440 >> He was keen. 483 00:19:32,463 --> 00:19:35,138 [music] 484 00:19:33,118 --> 00:19:35,138 [singing] 485 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,120 >> Maybe I played bass. I played bass on 486 00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:42,559 some with that six stringer. 487 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:43,919 >> It sounds like it. It was It was 488 00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:44,480 definitely Paul playing piano. So, it 489 00:19:43,919 --> 00:19:46,400 couldn't even 490 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,120 >> Well, you you should be able to tell 491 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,880 because 492 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:51,760 >> Shall we, 493 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,280 >> you know, you just have done [music] it. 494 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,799 There are lots of there's lots of false 495 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,200 starts and breakdowns. That was take 496 00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:56,559 one. 497 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,320 >> So we end up at 498 00:19:56,559 --> 00:19:59,600 >> You're saying the bass is couldn't it 499 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,240 couldn't have been overdub because it's 500 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,840 on every take. 501 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,520 >> It was live. 502 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,039 >> Okay. Well then it must have been me or 503 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,120 John playing it. 504 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:07,600 >> Obviously you can't remember could have 505 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:09,760 been ring. 506 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,760 >> Well look we did have we had a six 507 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,160 string bass 508 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,559 um a right-handed bass. 509 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,200 >> Yeah. So the for these kind of 510 00:20:16,559 --> 00:20:18,559 conditions, 511 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,320 >> one of the great things about this 512 00:20:18,559 --> 00:20:22,480 studio and the way EMI was set up was 513 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:25,360 they were set up for Mrs. Mills or 514 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:27,760 Daniel Baron or Russ Conway 515 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:29,200 >> or Peter Cellers. So they always had 516 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,520 these millions of instruments like they 517 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,240 still got now grand pianos odd little 518 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,159 pianos and 519 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,480 >> all the ones that you haven't got at 520 00:20:34,159 --> 00:20:35,919 your 521 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,679 >> and I've well they've ended up at my 522 00:20:35,919 --> 00:20:39,679 studio now cuz they're all trying to get 523 00:20:37,679 --> 00:20:41,760 rid of them here and you know I'll have 524 00:20:39,679 --> 00:20:42,559 >> Neil and Mel would be over here 525 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,919 >> behind these. 526 00:20:42,559 --> 00:20:45,760 >> I thought it was over here. Let's see. 527 00:20:43,919 --> 00:20:47,440 This is where everybody disagrees. 528 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,440 >> Well, they moved them around so much. 529 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:52,960 >> We mainly were over there. 530 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:55,840 >> And my bit on um 531 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,480 >> the cable, the cable was through that 532 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,679 door. 533 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,159 >> I think he's talking about yellow 534 00:20:57,679 --> 00:21:02,400 submarine, I [laughter] think. 535 00:21:00,159 --> 00:21:04,400 >> I thought it was natural echo. 536 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,559 >> Just in that door there. 537 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:09,440 >> Yeah. At that time there was a little 538 00:21:06,559 --> 00:21:12,320 board the the desk of the the console 539 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:15,760 was just about this big with four faders 540 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:19,360 on it and there was one speaker right in 541 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:21,840 the middle and uh for a mix it would be 542 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:24,960 funny cuz everybody had get on a fader 543 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:27,440 each and have full bass and full treble 544 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:30,400 and one speaker and that was it. When 545 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:33,120 they invented stereo I remember thinking 546 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:35,039 why what do you want two speakers for? 547 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:37,039 because it ruined the sound from our 548 00:21:35,039 --> 00:21:38,799 point of view. You know, we had 549 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:40,559 everything coming out of one speaker. 550 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:42,559 Now we had to come out of two speakers. 551 00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:43,760 It all sounded like 552 00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:45,280 >> very naked. 553 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,960 >> But then finally someone said, "Well, 554 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,640 you can move things." 555 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,559 >> So like everything from then on got 556 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,880 panned like magic and everything got 557 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:52,400 moved. 558 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,559 >> But the, you know, to get to the point 559 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:57,280 where you do a stereo mix and put the 560 00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:58,960 drums and bass in the middle, you know, 561 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,200 >> for a long time used to be over on the 562 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,240 side 563 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,840 >> because we always used to do that 564 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,400 sticking on. I remember being at a party 565 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,919 at Brian's house and talking to someone 566 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,440 and saying, "Oh, this is great. Bit this 567 00:22:05,919 --> 00:22:09,010 on the drums. Listen to this." And it 568 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,400 wasn't on that speaker. So, hang 569 00:22:09,010 --> 00:22:11,760 [laughter] on. Put it on again. And we 570 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,905 had to go over to the other speaker to 571 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,679 hear the drums. It's going great. 572 00:22:14,905 --> 00:22:17,440 [laughter] 573 00:22:15,679 --> 00:22:19,280 >> He's like, "No drums in that space." 574 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:22,080 >> John got a spool of tape of the rough 575 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:25,600 mix of the backing track to uh I think 576 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:28,400 it was I'm only sleeping. And you know, 577 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:32,240 by the time he got home, uh, he didn't 578 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:33,919 realize cuz they the tape was tails out. 579 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,679 And, uh, they just stuck it on a reel 580 00:22:33,919 --> 00:22:39,200 and he put it on his tape machine and 581 00:22:35,679 --> 00:22:41,200 threaded the tail in forward and got it 582 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,640 backwards. That's when he came in the 583 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,200 next day and said, "Oh, yeah, 584 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:47,120 backwards." And then we made him turn 585 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,880 the tape over and play it backwards. And 586 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:52,320 we all played, I think John and I or 587 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:55,280 Paul and I played guitars, just like 588 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:57,120 random notes on the guitars. And then we 589 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,790 turned the tape back over to see what we 590 00:22:57,120 --> 00:23:03,080 had. And that was like the first time 591 00:22:58,790 --> 00:23:03,080 [music] we had a backwards solo. 592 00:23:07,305 --> 00:23:09,325 [music] 593 00:23:11,891 --> 00:23:13,911 [music] 594 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,480 I'm miles [singing] away [music] and 595 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,240 after 596 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:25,240 I 597 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,240 sleeping, 598 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,280 >> you know, it became easier to do 599 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,799 experiments cuz we'd had a few hits, you 600 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,520 know, that was the key. [laughter] 601 00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:37,280 No, the key was that we'd had success 602 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,240 and then it was, "Oh, great. Come in, 603 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,159 lads. 604 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,559 >> Nice to see you back again." And and as 605 00:23:40,159 --> 00:23:45,600 we got more and more success, we were 606 00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:47,919 more and more able to, you know, try 607 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,360 some far out ideas. And um 608 00:23:47,919 --> 00:23:51,120 >> it also give us more time 609 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:52,880 >> and also then you'd have success with 610 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:55,120 something that might have seemed like a 611 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,720 far out idea and that had, you know, 612 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:58,880 people would say, "Wow, this is great." 613 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:02,240 And so we'd come back again and George 614 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:04,000 would be, you know, really quite keen to 615 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:07,200 try, well, what other ideas have you 616 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:09,919 got? You know, so it just became, you 617 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:13,200 know, like a free house for, you know, 618 00:24:09,919 --> 00:24:14,559 whatever idea you wanted. We'd try it. 619 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,640 >> Loops right on two. 620 00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:16,960 >> Can we have a Tomorrow Never Knows, 621 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,320 please? 622 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,039 >> Which take? 623 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,440 >> Which take? 624 00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:21,840 >> All of them. 625 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,640 >> All of them. First take the first take. 626 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,400 It's very weird. 627 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,440 >> Oh, well. Play the rear take. 628 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:30,880 >> Listen to this on It's like the drums 629 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:32,320 and a guitar that's going to off speed. 630 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,640 Um, 631 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:39,279 >> you see right now there's only two 632 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:42,282 there's only two basic track takes 633 00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:44,302 >> which is one and three 634 00:24:42,282 --> 00:24:44,302 [music] 635 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,279 all that underwater stuff. [music] 636 00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:55,520 We should speed that up and see what it 637 00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:58,057 was. Listen the drum part. 638 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,057 >> Great. [music] 639 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,320 Probably different. 640 00:25:03,242 --> 00:25:05,262 >> [music] 641 00:25:09,792 --> 00:25:11,812 [music] 642 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,640 >> Nothing on 643 00:25:15,687 --> 00:25:17,707 [music] 644 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,200 top 645 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,440 So is that just on its own? 646 00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:34,440 >> That's his voice. 647 00:25:35,337 --> 00:25:36,559 [music] 648 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,520 >> That's good 649 00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:41,360 >> with a bit of drums and a bit of loop. 650 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,507 So nothing on there. 651 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:45,520 >> We haven't put the loops on this tape. 652 00:25:44,507 --> 00:25:49,600 [music] 653 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:51,600 >> This was just the first run through. 654 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:56,320 >> He wanted his voice to sound like the 655 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:58,000 Dalai Lama um chanting the hilltop. And 656 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,720 I said, well, it's bit expensive going 657 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:03,200 to Tibet. Can we make do with it here? 658 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,039 And I spoke to Jeff Rick and he had a 659 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,600 good idea. He said, let's try putting 660 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:09,600 his voice through a Leslie speaker 661 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,600 >> and back again and re-recording it. And 662 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,120 I don't think anyone done that before. 663 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,039 And that's that's the way we got his 664 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:16,640 special effect on his voice there. And 665 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:19,600 the other thing on that weird track was 666 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:22,080 a tamboura drone and Ringo's very 667 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:26,200 characteristic drumming. 668 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,200 >> See, it's like doing a rumbo. 669 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,688 It's great. I like it. [music] 670 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,159 >> How is he doing that? 671 00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:38,000 >> What's that underwater sound? 672 00:26:36,159 --> 00:26:40,080 >> How is that drummer doing that, George? 673 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,858 >> Oh, he had to be very brilliant. It's 674 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,858 just brilliant. [music] 675 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,840 >> No tambourum. 676 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:52,880 >> What's that with the drums? [music] 677 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:57,240 >> Sounds like some kind of resin. 678 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,240 >> Some resin music. Anyway, 679 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,679 >> you then change it up. 680 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,200 >> Yeah. 681 00:27:03,679 --> 00:27:06,720 >> So that was the first take. That [music] 682 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,480 was the first take. 683 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,080 >> John just had the song. 684 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,039 >> Well, the song I think was very much 685 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:16,640 influenced by you know in those days the 686 00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:18,480 Indian music had come in to our lives 687 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:21,440 and the the way Indian music just was 688 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,320 all on one uh in one key. It didn't 689 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,039 modulate 690 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:28,320 >> his idea. But, you know, he wanted to 691 00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:30,000 try a tune like that that didn't change 692 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:33,200 chords. 693 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,200 Uh and also because of um some of the 694 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,200 other influences he had that Timothy 695 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,400 Liry book 696 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:42,799 which was um supposedly uh I think it 697 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,279 was called a psychedelic experience and 698 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:46,799 he had some stuff that related to the 699 00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:49,919 Tibetan book of the dead and he wrote 700 00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:51,200 those words and did it that was all kind 701 00:27:49,919 --> 00:27:53,760 of book weren't those words 702 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,200 >> monotone kind of thing lay down your 703 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,559 mind it is not 704 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,320 >> and also you know Paul and you know I 705 00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:02,399 mean there was different things going 706 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,720 on, different influences at the time, 707 00:28:02,399 --> 00:28:08,159 one of them being avantgard, you know, 708 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:11,039 stocks and and so I mean it was very 709 00:28:08,159 --> 00:28:13,440 much experimental um thing and all that 710 00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:14,960 was a number of experimental things that 711 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,640 all came together 712 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,679 >> on the one song. 713 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,120 >> Oh, that was the break. 714 00:28:19,679 --> 00:28:24,329 >> Oh, now we're talking. 715 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:25,440 >> Now we're talking serious music. Now 716 00:28:24,329 --> 00:28:30,880 [music] 717 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:32,159 >> you say in Woohoo. Turn off your mind. 718 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,559 Relax. And [music] 719 00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:36,159 >> so what have we got there? 720 00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:36,720 >> This is the real one. 721 00:28:36,159 --> 00:28:38,240 >> On one. 722 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:42,120 >> Yeah. 723 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,120 >> Got the voice on three. 724 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:49,200 >> And on track two turn three. 725 00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:51,839 >> You've got your various tape loops and 726 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,859 your guitar on tambour. 727 00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:53,859 [singing and music] 728 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,440 shining. 729 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,600 >> And on that one, I brought in a bunch of 730 00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:06,480 tape loops and a little plastic bag that 731 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,080 I'd done at home. And uh I just made a 732 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,000 lot of little loops that I liked, you 733 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,480 know, and brought them all in. literally 734 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,880 little pieces of loop tape, little 735 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,760 plastic bag, and we got them all on 736 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,679 about eight or so machines with everyone 737 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,520 holding a loop and a pencil or a bit of 738 00:29:19,679 --> 00:29:22,960 a glass and stuff and got them running 739 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,600 around on the machines and then fed them 740 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:28,240 all into the desk and made a little mix 741 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,159 that you heard before. All those seagull 742 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,320 noises and stuff, it's all sped up tapes 743 00:29:30,159 --> 00:29:35,039 and loops. So, that was another little 744 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:37,760 ingredient in that. 745 00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:39,679 >> That wasn't used, was it? 746 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:43,159 >> Yeah. 747 00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:43,159 At that point, 748 00:29:43,585 --> 00:29:49,399 [laughter] 749 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,399 bring Phil Collins in 750 00:29:56,030 --> 00:29:58,050 [music] 751 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,240 really good. 752 00:30:05,855 --> 00:30:07,875 >> [music] 753 00:30:08,399 --> 00:30:13,120 >> I suppose you remember what that loop 754 00:30:10,159 --> 00:30:14,960 was made [music] of 755 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,520 guitar. 756 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,880 >> When we made that, we could never 757 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,880 reproduce it again. It'd be impossible 758 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,840 to reproduce again because the way we 759 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:26,720 made it was the actual mix. And all over 760 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,960 this this building in different rooms 761 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,919 were tapes, [music] tape machines with 762 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,360 loops on them and people holding the 763 00:30:31,919 --> 00:30:36,559 loops the right distance from thing with 764 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:38,559 a bit of pencil going all the time being 765 00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:40,480 fed to different faders on our control 766 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:42,960 panel which we could bring out the sound 767 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,279 like an organ at any time. So the mix we 768 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:48,760 did then was a random thing at that time 769 00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:48,760 could never be done. 770 00:30:49,086 --> 00:30:52,600 [music] Let's 771 00:30:54,981 --> 00:30:57,001 [music] 772 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,960 listen to this. 773 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:10,640 >> So the double track voice is straight 774 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:14,031 and that one is got the wall effect on 775 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,031 it. [music] 776 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,240 >> We are gathered here today. 777 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,720 That's good. 778 00:31:26,159 --> 00:31:30,159 >> That's that piano down there. 779 00:31:28,159 --> 00:31:31,840 >> What are you? I don't know. It sounds 780 00:31:30,159 --> 00:31:32,960 like you. 781 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,159 >> It could be me. 782 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,901 >> It sounds like you. 783 00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:38,000 >> Sy. 784 00:31:36,901 --> 00:31:40,000 [laughter] 785 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:44,200 >> Well, there you go. 786 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,200 >> That's how we did it. There is 787 00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:06,039 heat. 788 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,039 When I went on tour, [music] journalists 789 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,640 would say, "Is it true the Beatles going 790 00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:20,559 to get back together?" And I had to have 791 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,240 an answer, some kind of answer for that. 792 00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:24,880 So, the answer became, "Yeah, well, it 793 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,640 may be that the three of us will get in 794 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,440 and do some incidental music, maybe an 795 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,159 instrumental [music] 796 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,922 for this uh new Beatles thing we're 797 00:32:30,159 --> 00:32:32,000 doing, this anthology documentary." 798 00:32:31,922 --> 00:32:34,000 >> [music] 799 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,080 >> We were going to do some like incidental 800 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,919 music, you know, just get there and play 801 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,000 of the instrument, see what happened. 802 00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:41,919 And then, 803 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,600 you know, that seemed like an okay idea. 804 00:32:41,919 --> 00:32:47,697 And then we thought, well, why don't we 805 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,697 do some new music? [music] 806 00:32:50,262 --> 00:32:52,282 [music] 807 00:32:58,122 --> 00:33:00,142 [music] 808 00:33:05,327 --> 00:33:07,347 >> [music] 809 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,039 >> We always had a, you know, a thing 810 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,120 between [music] the three of us or the 811 00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:15,039 four of us at that time that if any one 812 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:18,559 of us wasn't in it, we weren't going to 813 00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:20,960 get, you know, kind of Roger Waters and 814 00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:23,760 go out as the Beatles 815 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:26,640 or Dave Gilmore. We were going to, you 816 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,480 know, so so therefore the only other 817 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,440 person who could be in it was John. We 818 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:34,640 kept hitting that wall because this is a 819 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,880 documentary on the Beatles. It's not on 820 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,799 Paul, George, and Ringo. 821 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,600 >> If we were to do something, the three of 822 00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:45,679 us, as interesting as it may be, and as 823 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:48,159 nice as we could sure make it, 824 00:33:45,679 --> 00:33:50,240 to have John in it is the obvious thing. 825 00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:52,880 >> So, Paul, I believe it was Paul who 826 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,720 asked Yoko, "Is there anything of John's 827 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,640 that never came out? Maybe we could work 828 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,399 with it." 829 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,519 and uh she sent us these tapes and 830 00:33:58,399 --> 00:34:00,960 that's how it came about. 831 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:02,240 >> And in actual fact, we didn't know as 832 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,919 much [clears throat] as most Lenon fans 833 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,799 because they they'd actually knew all 834 00:34:03,919 --> 00:34:08,399 the releases. They knew that uh um Free 835 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:10,399 as a Bird and Real Love had been heard. 836 00:34:08,399 --> 00:34:12,240 They'd heard them. We hadn't. It was 837 00:34:10,399 --> 00:34:14,399 really emotional. I mean, just hearing 838 00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:17,919 the tape 839 00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:20,320 uh that was sent was pretty emotional. 840 00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:21,919 And then we got to the studio and it was 841 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,800 it was difficult for a while. I mean, 842 00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:28,159 what uh you know, he's not here. We're 843 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,639 all here. Where's John? Uh, of course 844 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:33,599 John's in heaven. 845 00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:35,679 And uh, but we had to get over that. We 846 00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:37,839 got over that by feeling that he was 847 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:40,879 he'd gone for lunch. He's gone for a cup 848 00:34:37,839 --> 00:34:43,200 of tea or he's, you know, cuz 849 00:34:40,879 --> 00:34:45,520 all the time we were making records, we 850 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:48,320 weren't all in the room all the time. I 851 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,159 mean, sometimes we would split. And so 852 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,679 we dealt with it in that way. That's how 853 00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:53,679 I dealt with it, that he's just around 854 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:56,399 the corner. So, when we got in the 855 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:58,400 studio, uh, we had this cassette, Free 856 00:34:56,399 --> 00:35:01,760 as a Bird. It's very bad quality. It was 857 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:04,640 just a mono cassette, um, with John and 858 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,400 the piano locked in on one track, uh, 859 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,680 which nobody would normally deal with. 860 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,320 You know, you just think, I can't deal 861 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,079 with this. But the song was so strong 862 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,680 that we overcame those technical 863 00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:14,480 difficulties, or rather Jeff Lynn did 864 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,760 who was producing. 865 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,400 >> It wasn't an easy thing because they 866 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,259 were like mono tapes and John singing on 867 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,280 them with the piano as well, and so 868 00:35:20,259 --> 00:35:23,280 [snorts] you couldn't really separate 869 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,680 anything. So Johnny's actually playing 870 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,440 piano on the records too, you know. Um, 871 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,240 which is a great thing. So it kept the 872 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,079 integrity of that and it wasn't like uh 873 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:33,599 like his voice just appearing out of 874 00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:35,520 nowhere. He was actually doing a 875 00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:37,760 performance at the same time. 876 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,839 Technically it was virtually impossible 877 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,280 to do it. But we we get we did it, you 878 00:35:39,839 --> 00:35:45,680 know, because we really worked at it 879 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:48,720 very hard. So after that uh we did like 880 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:52,880 a basic track with all these gaps in it 881 00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:56,160 and then we had to fill in the song you 882 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:58,904 know uh which which shows what happened. 883 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:01,920 >> What we actually did was remake this 884 00:35:58,904 --> 00:36:05,680 [music] song. I mean even with chords 885 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:08,160 and stuff we changed chords. 886 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,694 >> Beautiful. 887 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,400 Well, I vote for the E suspended. 888 00:36:10,694 --> 00:36:15,920 [music and singing] 889 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:18,560 What do you think, audience? We changed 890 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:22,960 arrangements. We added parts and we 891 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:25,680 wrote lyrics and then we made the the 892 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:28,560 multitrack tape of this song and then 893 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:31,440 took [music] John's voice and laid him 894 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,620 into the track. when it started taking 895 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,000 shape and John was sort of in there 896 00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:37,359 [music] and coming up and singing and I 897 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,680 think everybody from that moment said, 898 00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:41,200 "Wow, this really works." You know, and 899 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,200 and I was really thrilled cuz, you know, 900 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:46,000 I'd spent a long long time after we got 901 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,800 the backing done making the vocals fit 902 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,160 exactly. 903 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,839 >> Uh, let's check that. It was really 904 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,760 good. 905 00:36:49,839 --> 00:36:54,320 >> And once that happened, I think we were 906 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,079 all, "Oh, yeah. This really it's really 907 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,760 good, you know, and and it's not doing 908 00:36:56,079 --> 00:37:00,240 John 909 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:03,095 disservice or whatever. It's actually 910 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:05,115 make it into a really good record. 911 00:37:03,095 --> 00:37:05,115 [music] 912 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,400 tell [music] me. 913 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,680 >> I listened to it and and [music] 914 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:31,599 I thought it sounds just like them. You 915 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,119 know, I'd taken myself away from it for 916 00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:35,520 so long that it, you know, it was like 917 00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:37,440 listening to it from like an outsider 918 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,280 and it sounds just like them. It's it's 919 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,720 brilliant. when George and I were doing 920 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,920 the harmonies and that was [music] what 921 00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:43,680 Ringo said when we got back in the 922 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,640 control just sounds just like the 923 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,160 Beatles, you know. 924 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,440 >> It wasn't surprising to me really 925 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,920 because I mean that's what I went there 926 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,960 for was to work with the Beatles. So I 927 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,400 always like assumed in my naivity 928 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,079 whatever that it was going to sound like 929 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,440 a Beatles record because I'm doing 930 00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:59,280 working with the Beatles. 931 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,160 >> It's got to sound like them if it is 932 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,880 them. 933 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:06,200 >> It's it sounds like them now. That's 934 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,200 what I think. 935 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,520 So [music] 936 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,520 free. 937 00:38:11,871 --> 00:38:13,891 [music] 938 00:38:18,421 --> 00:38:20,441 >> [music] 939 00:38:27,591 --> 00:38:29,611 [music] 940 00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:36,761 >> The first choice uh was free as a bird 941 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,359 and we did that in February 94 and then 942 00:38:36,761 --> 00:38:40,000 [music] 943 00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:41,920 um kind of really didn't do much except 944 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:46,480 put together the anthology not recording 945 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:48,320 wise [music] any till uh February 95 946 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,640 where we went back to my studio with 947 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,640 real love. 948 00:38:53,136 --> 00:38:57,121 [music] 949 00:38:55,101 --> 00:38:57,121 [singing] 950 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:04,320 >> Seems that [singing and music] all I 951 00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:08,359 really was doing 952 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,359 was waiting [music] for you. 953 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:15,920 Well, real love's poppy. Uh, it's more 954 00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:17,359 of a Poppy song. 955 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,760 It was 956 00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:22,560 It was more difficult actually because 957 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,880 we'd already done it. So now we're we're 958 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,040 doing it again. So you know for me I 959 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:31,782 felt it was more difficult to to turn it 960 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:33,802 into a real Beatle track. 961 00:39:31,782 --> 00:39:33,802 [music] 962 00:39:44,227 --> 00:39:47,359 >> [music] 963 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,680 >> It's real love. 964 00:39:47,359 --> 00:39:54,359 It's real. [music] 965 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,359 Yes, it's real love. 966 00:39:55,599 --> 00:40:00,079 >> The thing for me that was not quite as 967 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:02,480 much fun in the recording of Real Love 968 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:05,680 was it was finished. It had all the 969 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:08,720 words and the music. So, I didn't really 970 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,160 get to input which like we the the other 971 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:11,760 three of us have been able to input on 972 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,760 Freeze Bird. So [snorts] it made it more 973 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,920 like a Beatles session. This was like 974 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:18,000 more like we were side men to John, 975 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:22,760 which was, you know, joyful and it was 976 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,760 good fun. And I think we did a good job. 977 00:40:25,493 --> 00:40:27,513 [music] 978 00:40:32,043 --> 00:40:34,063 >> [music] 979 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,880 >> And I was like this. [music] I wasn't 980 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,599 even the fly on the wall. I was fly in 981 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,560 the middle of the room, you know, with 982 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,920 the desperate. Oh, it's great. And it 983 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,920 was the most I mean, it's beyond [music] 984 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,160 me wildest dreams to have actually sat 985 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,319 with the three of them. Very few people 986 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,079 have, [music] I think. And to be making 987 00:40:56,319 --> 00:41:02,079 the records with it, it was just 988 00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:05,480 astonishing. It's [music] real. 989 00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:05,480 It's real. 990 00:41:07,413 --> 00:41:09,433 [music] 991 00:41:15,839 --> 00:41:19,680 Brought back a lot of good memories and 992 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,400 it also gave me a chance to hang out 993 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,599 with Paul and George again. We hadn't 994 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,520 done that in a while. 995 00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:26,880 >> We work well together. That's the truth 996 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,440 of it, you know. We just work well 997 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,960 together and that's a very special 998 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,440 thing. When [music] you find someone you 999 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:36,079 can talk to, it's a special thing. You 1000 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:38,319 find someone you can play music with. 1001 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:41,920 It's really it's something. I think we 1002 00:41:38,319 --> 00:41:45,119 just, you know, we've had so much um the 1003 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:47,119 same background, you know, our musical 1004 00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:49,839 background and where we came from and 1005 00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:51,119 what we listen to, you know, in common. 1006 00:41:49,839 --> 00:41:53,760 And then all those years [music] we 1007 00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:56,800 played together, you know, it's somehow 1008 00:41:53,760 --> 00:42:02,079 it's it's it's made a very deep groove 1009 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:05,054 in our memories and it doesn't take much 1010 00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:07,074 to lock in. 1011 00:42:05,054 --> 00:42:07,074 [music] 1012 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:18,400 It's real love. [music] 1013 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:23,839 It's real. 1014 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:29,359 It's real love. It's [music] real. 1015 00:42:23,839 --> 00:42:34,800 It's real love. It's real. 1016 00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:37,599 It's real love. It's real. 1017 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:40,839 It's real. 1018 00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,839 It's real. 1019 00:42:48,319 --> 00:42:53,599 I think it was yeah the early '7s 71 1020 00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:57,680 7071 1021 00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:59,359 uh I collected uh 1022 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:02,480 all the footage that I could find from 1023 00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:04,720 around the world and uh we put uh a 1024 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:07,839 documentary together or a film together 1025 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:08,960 that was uh without the Beatles being 1026 00:43:07,839 --> 00:43:11,119 interviewed or anything like that. And 1027 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,760 it was just put all the film together. 1028 00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:16,720 It was about an hour and 3/4 long, 1029 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,000 right? And uh then I put it on the shelf 1030 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:19,839 for 20 years. 1031 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:23,280 >> And it was an extremely interesting 1032 00:43:19,839 --> 00:43:26,000 story, but of course it was then done 1033 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,520 uh as uh [sighs] well it was very very 1034 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,800 close to the breakup. So it wasn't done 1035 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,880 with that long perspective. 1036 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:34,000 >> It was on the shelf, right? I knew it 1037 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,760 was there, but I didn't really uh really 1038 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,480 think about it. It was a it was a 1039 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,800 question of getting like a lot of other 1040 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:43,760 you know business things together. So 1041 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:49,280 and and getting control if we could of 1042 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:53,359 uh various elements of uh 1043 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:56,480 beetle business if you like. And um when 1044 00:43:53,359 --> 00:43:59,200 we were in that position 1045 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:02,800 it was uh it was easier to do you know 1046 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:05,680 it it was really easier to do than um 1047 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,520 than not. I really thought the anthology 1048 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,359 would happen when Neil said it's going 1049 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,920 to be there's going to be an anthology. 1050 00:44:09,359 --> 00:44:14,160 We're going to do the whole story 1051 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,880 and the fellows have agreed and then I 1052 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:19,040 knew it would be on and I was very 1053 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,520 interested in in a detached sort of way, 1054 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:25,040 >> you know. I think uh maybe I mentioned 1055 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:30,079 it to everybody in sort of like 1990 or 1056 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:32,560 91 or something like that, you know. Um 1057 00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:34,880 and then we started doing it, you I got 1058 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:37,680 uh the production team together, the 1059 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,040 production office together and uh you 1060 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,200 know we started doing it. 1061 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:44,720 >> Well, I'd worked with the three of them 1062 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:48,160 before, but I was doing uh directing um 1063 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:49,920 McCartney's ortorio for Liverpool and he 1064 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:53,680 phoned me up and said that he'd had a 1065 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:55,119 chat with no mate of mine. And I 1066 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,720 thought, my god, who can that be? And I 1067 00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:59,119 said, well, who do you mean? He said, uh 1068 00:44:56,720 --> 00:45:00,160 George Harrison. I said, oh yeah. He 1069 00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:02,480 said, I didn't know you'd work with 1070 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,599 George. So I said, "Well, yeah." He 1071 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,680 said, "But then again, he didn't know 1072 00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:10,000 you'd work with me." I was on my way to 1073 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:13,119 the Montre Jazz Festival. I'd arranged 1074 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,880 to go and work on that. And Jeff rang me 1075 00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:18,800 out of the blue and told me about it cuz 1076 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:21,119 he initiate got in touch. And he said, 1077 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,359 "Well, you got to make your mind up. Are 1078 00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:25,839 you coming or not?" 1079 00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:28,319 >> So the rest is history. Jeff and I 1080 00:45:25,839 --> 00:45:34,160 arrived down here to an empty empty 1081 00:45:28,319 --> 00:45:36,079 rooms. I was working at uh EMI, PMI, 1082 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,599 making television programs. Jeff was a 1083 00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:41,040 director who'd worked there. We'd both 1084 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:43,920 worked with Paul on the uh ortorio and 1085 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:47,920 different things. And he'd been asked to 1086 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:50,560 do this and was doing it and nobody had 1087 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,079 asked me. And I said to him, why haven't 1088 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:55,200 you asked me? I'd love to do this. And 1089 00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:57,280 he said, well, I didn't even think that 1090 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,800 you'd want to do it because you have a 1091 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:03,200 proper job. 1092 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:06,480 full-time job and Jeff 1093 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:08,160 uh was seemed very happy. Spoke to Neil 1094 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,119 Aspenol, 1095 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:13,359 spoke to Paul and 1096 00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:13,839 went and sort talked to Neil and got the 1097 00:46:13,359 --> 00:46:15,280 job. 1098 00:46:13,839 --> 00:46:17,040 >> Well, actually I was on holiday when 1099 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,119 when the rest of the guys started, 1100 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,440 right? And I thought bad timing. I 1101 00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:23,839 expected to sort of come back and find 1102 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,119 out that they decided that I was surplus 1103 00:46:23,839 --> 00:46:26,240 to requirements and didn't need me 1104 00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:27,760 anymore. So when I got back from 1105 00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:29,200 holiday, I phoned up Apple and I said, 1106 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,800 "I'm Bob Smith and I'm going to be 1107 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,880 working on this job." Said, "Yeah, come 1108 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,680 down whenever you're ready." 1109 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,119 >> And we came in and um said, "Now we now 1110 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,200 we're going to make a program, which we 1111 00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:40,240 hadn't really thought about too much." 1112 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,599 >> It's the same track again. 1113 00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:42,560 >> Yeah, it's the same track again for the 1114 00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:43,760 third time. 1115 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:47,040 >> A lot more music. 1116 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,480 >> No, because that was meant to be one. 1117 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,760 >> As well as the the work that's been done 1118 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,599 by the guys upstairs, there's obviously 1119 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,480 been a phenomenal amount of work done by 1120 00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:56,880 a very small team. I mean basically the 1121 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:59,680 whole production of this has been done 1122 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:03,040 by 10 people including research and 1123 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:05,920 everything. Um I think we've used 1124 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:08,560 somewhere between 9 and 10,000 different 1125 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,319 pieces of footage and music and all 1126 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,720 that's had to be cleared. All that's had 1127 00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:14,160 to be logged. It's been a phenomenal job 1128 00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:16,800 done by people here. 1129 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:19,599 >> I'm as kind of useful to have around if 1130 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,359 the Beatles are being discussed uh in a 1131 00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:24,160 variety of ways. I mean there are ways 1132 00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:27,119 in which I'm no use at all. I'm no use 1133 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:29,760 on some minutia and detail. 1134 00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:31,599 I'm not good on things like clearances 1135 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:35,920 and all the mechanics of making a 1136 00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:40,079 documentary. But on perspectives and uh 1137 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:43,119 some insights I can be handy to turn to 1138 00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:46,480 and I'm extremely generous with my time 1139 00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:49,760 and uh views and I get along with them 1140 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:52,079 and with Neil. I realized that uh the 1141 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:57,200 one thing that we had that nobody else 1142 00:47:52,079 --> 00:48:00,960 had, no third party had, right? Uh 1143 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:03,680 was the surviving Beatles, the the three 1144 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:07,280 of them and all John's interviews with 1145 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:09,520 Yoko's consent, right? Um, and so once I 1146 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,359 started putting it together, what what I 1147 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:14,240 decided right from the very beginning, 1148 00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:16,960 right, not just now, but 20 years ago 1149 00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:19,280 when I did the original one was not have 1150 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,880 some like mid-Atlantic voice 1151 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,440 commentator, 1152 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,680 right? Uh, 1153 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,680 telling the Beatles story, right? It was 1154 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,440 better for them to tell their own story. 1155 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,079 For them to tell their own story, they 1156 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,599 had to be interviewed. So basically 1157 00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:35,440 three months of looking at stuff before 1158 00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:37,839 we and listening to stuff before we put 1159 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,440 anything together and then of course 1160 00:48:37,839 --> 00:48:41,119 they're not the easiest people to get a 1161 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,880 hold of. 1162 00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:44,400 So I think that was another about 3 1163 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,839 months 1164 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,599 trying to get a hold of them to do an 1165 00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:48,720 interview really. the interviewer. That 1166 00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:50,960 was the other thing to get an 1167 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:53,359 interviewer that wasn't an indepth 1168 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,880 interviewer, you know, a David Frost 1169 00:48:53,359 --> 00:48:57,359 type interviewer, you know, that would 1170 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,119 go into and put everybody on their guard 1171 00:48:57,359 --> 00:49:01,839 about, you know, what you're going to 1172 00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:03,440 say. But, uh, really to use another 1173 00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:04,240 musician, that's how Jules Holland 1174 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,440 became involved. 1175 00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:10,319 >> I think that my real job was to 1176 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,760 interview them and to ask them about the 1177 00:49:10,319 --> 00:49:13,280 about their history starting at the 1178 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,640 beginning from when they were small 1179 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,520 going right up to the end of it. And 1180 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,960 some of it is quite um there, you know, 1181 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,559 some of it is quite hard to talk about 1182 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,480 the later parts, you know, it's quite 1183 00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:25,680 there's unhappy moments as laughter and 1184 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:28,720 tears of course. And I think because um 1185 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,720 I'm a pianist than a musician more more 1186 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:32,160 than a sort of a hard-nosed interviewer, 1187 00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:35,440 I think because of that they found it 1188 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:38,160 easier to relax. And so jewels tended to 1189 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:41,119 ask like 1190 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:43,599 questions that uh 1191 00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:45,680 like say a trained interviewer or or 1192 00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:48,960 whatever wouldn't ask you know and with 1193 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:51,680 the Elvis episode he asked if Priscilla 1194 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:53,839 was there which is fine but I don't 1195 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,559 think a regular you know interviewer 1196 00:49:53,839 --> 00:49:58,319 would have asked what was she wearing 1197 00:49:56,559 --> 00:50:00,000 you know it's not sort of like an 1198 00:49:58,319 --> 00:50:01,920 indepth question is it 1199 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,559 >> remember how Priscilla was dressed 1200 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,920 >> I think she had a long thing on and a 1201 00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:07,920 tiara. 1202 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,559 >> I've got this picture of her like as a 1203 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,240 sort of Barbie doll with like gingham 1204 00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:15,040 kind of purple gingham and a bow, a 1205 00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:17,599 gingham bow in her very beehive hair. 1206 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,640 >> Do you remember uh seeing uh Mrs. 1207 00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:20,559 Presley? 1208 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,559 >> No, I don't. 1209 00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:24,160 >> Well, could be. I don't remember. I 1210 00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:26,160 spent most of the party trying to sus 1211 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,079 out from his gang if anybody had any 1212 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,240 refer. [laughter] 1213 00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:31,839 >> What it would be was we would would want 1214 00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:34,640 to know what each program was going to 1215 00:50:31,839 --> 00:50:36,720 be, right? So I would like write the 1216 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:39,200 main areas, see right, we've got to hit 1217 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:41,920 this base, this base, this base, etc. 1218 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:44,160 And then once we knew what we wanted to 1219 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,160 get in there was a case of making sure 1220 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,920 that we got the information from the 1221 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,520 from the Beatles in order to make the 1222 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,240 programs. By the time they got to the 1223 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:54,240 the third interview, you it it in a 1224 00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:57,119 sense for me it's noticeable because 1225 00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:58,960 you'll find that uh if you ask one of 1226 00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,800 them a question, whichever one it is, if 1227 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,640 they don't know the answer, they'll say, 1228 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,400 "Oh, well, maybe Paul knows the answer 1229 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,839 or maybe Ringo knows the answer or maybe 1230 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,079 George knows the answer." So then you 1231 00:51:05,839 --> 00:51:09,680 can cut to the other individual who 1232 00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:11,359 doesn't know the answer anyway, right? 1233 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:14,000 And so he'll say, "Maybe somebody else 1234 00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:16,400 knows the answer." Uh and that came from 1235 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,079 watching what they' done in their first 1236 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,760 interviews, right? and see and if you 1237 00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:21,680 don't know the answer pass it over to 1238 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:24,000 the next guy and then you've got quite a 1239 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:26,640 nice little cut and stuff you know so we 1240 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,640 they gradually gone into it as a like 1241 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,720 making this this thing you know we were 1242 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,480 aware all the time that you know John 1243 00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:35,040 wasn't with us to go to him and get a 1244 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:37,119 quote from him but the researchers done 1245 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,520 such a thorough job that there was like 1246 00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:41,119 sometimes you'd need a quote from John 1247 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,960 and you'd have the option of six or 1248 00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:45,040 seven quotes and because he was so 1249 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,440 succinct in everything that he said and 1250 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,359 John in all his interviews talk so well 1251 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,079 in if you ask him a question, he gives 1252 00:51:49,359 --> 00:51:52,319 you the answer. 1253 00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:53,920 >> We looked through hours and hours of 1254 00:51:52,319 --> 00:51:58,400 footage of everything that we have on 1255 00:51:53,920 --> 00:52:00,079 John and just really sort of used he's 1256 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,800 represented mainly in sort of slow 1257 00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:05,520 motion shots cuz obviously he can't be 1258 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,280 talking or saying the thing. uh wherever 1259 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,359 he's appeared in archives saying 1260 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,680 anything we've tried to use. 1261 00:52:09,359 --> 00:52:16,160 >> We've used all that stuff, you know, and 1262 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:17,760 uh tried to give them all equal billing, 1263 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:21,520 you know, they've all seen it. They've 1264 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:23,760 all uh had, you know, an approval 1265 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:26,319 process so they all agree with with 1266 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:28,640 what's in it and whatever. If uh there's 1267 00:52:26,319 --> 00:52:30,480 something that somebody particularly, 1268 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:33,119 you know, wants to change or doesn't 1269 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,960 like about themselves, right, then we 1270 00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:37,280 would change it. They left us alone 1271 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:39,520 basically for certainly for three years 1272 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,119 in the main. There weren't major things 1273 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,960 to change. 1274 00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:44,960 >> There's a pause notes for program one 1275 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:48,079 changes. There's not very many as you 1276 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:50,236 can see. We're doing a good job here. 1277 00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:51,280 >> Suck the crew. That's one person. 1278 00:52:50,236 --> 00:52:53,440 [laughter] 1279 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:56,480 >> They came in occasionally. Uh they came 1280 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:59,040 in the three of them together which was 1281 00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:01,119 fantastic, you know, to to have them in 1282 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:05,440 here to look at to look at various parts 1283 00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:09,920 of it. But uh no that they have been 1284 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:12,720 in many ways a joy to work with and 1285 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,640 they're still the Beatles but they've 1286 00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:17,119 I've had more problem problems on a new 1287 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,880 band making a five grand pop video. 1288 00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:22,720 They've all been, I think, completely 1289 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:24,319 honest and quite uh very frank to the 1290 00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:26,960 point where some of the things they say 1291 00:53:24,319 --> 00:53:30,400 aren't they don't you know if you were 1292 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:32,079 doing an a safe interview about yourself 1293 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,559 uh because after all they're making the 1294 00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:36,400 film uh that you might not say but I 1295 00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:40,000 think that they feel that they the story 1296 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:41,760 should be told pretty much as it is uh 1297 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,680 and that the truth should be known as 1298 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:46,640 much as it can be even if some of it is 1299 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:49,440 a bit sort of painful. So they talk um 1300 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:51,680 and I think that's what I was I was 1301 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,599 pleased that it wasn't just a sort of a 1302 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,000 um showbiz cover up or something like 1303 00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:55,839 that. 1304 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,520 >> Position that was taken by Apple and 1305 00:53:55,839 --> 00:54:02,880 certainly by us during uh the making of 1306 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:04,720 it has been this may never be released. 1307 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,480 We don't know. That's why we can't talk 1308 00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:08,880 about it. So for a while there was very 1309 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,400 much a sense of that. I can't think of 1310 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,079 any particular moment where you really 1311 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,839 felt it's never going to be released. It 1312 00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:17,839 was it never got that heavy or that 1313 00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:21,920 unpleasant, but you 1314 00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:23,920 always I mean got the sense from the 1315 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:26,480 phone calls you were getting, the 1316 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:29,920 broadcasters that were phoning up, 1317 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:31,599 people asking questions about it, you 1318 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,520 got some sort of sense of what it was 1319 00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:35,599 going to be like when it was finished. 1320 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,359 Now you've got to start making decisions 1321 00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:39,599 about what to leave out, what to leave 1322 00:54:37,359 --> 00:54:42,079 in. You've also got a deadline. and it's 1323 00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:45,280 got to be finished by hit by this time. 1324 00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:47,359 Getting um you know the music together 1325 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,440 for a film, getting the rights together, 1326 00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:51,839 getting the you know whatever those 1327 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:54,400 rights are, master use licenses, 1328 00:54:51,839 --> 00:54:56,800 publishing licenses, you know, uh 1329 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,880 permissions for for somebody's name and 1330 00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,720 likeness that you've used in there. If 1331 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:03,040 they won't give it to you, for example, 1332 00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:05,920 or you can't get a particular song, then 1333 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,599 you've got to change that bit of the the 1334 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,920 thing. So, it's it's the it's the 1335 00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:12,000 finishing process that under pressure 1336 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:16,079 because you've got a deadline that for 1337 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:18,720 me is the is always like the 1338 00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:21,280 uh what's the word for it? It's a it's 1339 00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:22,400 it's the most traumatic time if you 1340 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,800 like, you know. 1341 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,720 >> Now, what is interesting about this 1342 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,040 anthology now is that they've had a long 1343 00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:32,800 time to think about it to get used to 1344 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:34,559 not minding being beatles that they had 1345 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:37,920 been Beatles. It's no longer an 1346 00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:40,559 embarrassment to them and it's time to, 1347 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:43,559 as the cliche goes, reclaim their own 1348 00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:43,559 history. 1349 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,920 >> Roll 1350 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,040 action. 1351 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,680 >> Originally, we were going to have a bird 1352 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,280 in the U piece, and you just follow the 1353 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,640 bird as it flies through history. It's 1354 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,680 like a magic bird that flies through. 1355 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,799 It's not magic in the sense that it 1356 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,079 glows or anything like that. It's just 1357 00:56:04,799 --> 00:56:09,200 the bird that takes you through the 1358 00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:10,799 history of uh of the songs where they 1359 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,920 came from visiting the places that 1360 00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:14,960 inspired the pieces. 1361 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:17,119 >> The bird uh flies through the Beatles 1362 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:21,400 lyrics, you know, flies through Penny 1363 00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:21,400 Lane and Helter Skelter. 1364 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:26,079 >> And then Neil said not to use a bird 1365 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,599 because at a previous time they had 1366 00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:28,720 talked about that and no one could agree 1367 00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:30,400 on what kind of bird it should be. 1368 00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:33,119 >> You never see the bird. The camera is 1369 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:35,280 the bird. 1370 00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:38,000 the sound of the wings. We did that so 1371 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,520 that the rest of the piece would uh make 1372 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,960 sense. That's why you have the loud 1373 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,960 flapping and everything at the beginning 1374 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,240 so that later on you know what it is 1375 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,079 that's taking you through these places, 1376 00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:49,079 not just the camera that's literally a 1377 00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:49,079 bird. 1378 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:58,240 We went back and forth uh between all 1379 00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:00,960 the guys. We had to send our notes back 1380 00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:03,599 to all the surviving Beatles and Yoko 1381 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,680 for their approval of the ideas. 1382 00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:08,240 And then uh Derek Taylor was incredibly 1383 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:10,880 helpful when we presented the a sketch 1384 00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:13,040 of the idea. He sent us a two-page note 1385 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:16,240 back which was a beautiful piece of 1386 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:18,559 poetry which not only reaffirmed the the 1387 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,400 uh the potential of the idea but also 1388 00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:22,719 gave us a lot of attitude toward the way 1389 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,739 the material should be approached. 1390 00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:24,739 [music] 1391 00:57:30,579 --> 00:57:32,599 >> [music] 1392 00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:39,720 >> to [singing and music] me. 1393 00:57:42,369 --> 00:57:44,389 [music] 1394 00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:52,000 We tried to shoot in all the uh [music] 1395 00:57:50,319 --> 00:57:53,520 authentic locations where things 1396 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,960 happened. We shot Penny Lane and Penny 1397 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,280 Lane and we had the art department 1398 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,960 rebuild it as close to what it was as 1399 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,799 possible. Of course, we shot the live 1400 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,880 birds, helicopter shot the Lirds in 1401 00:58:00,799 --> 00:58:04,240 Liverpool. We shot near the docks for 1402 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:08,520 the docks in Liverpool, which was a 1403 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,520 reference to [music] John's father. 1404 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:19,400 >> I am the puppy girl from Penny Lane. 1405 00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:26,960 that [music] we once knew. 1406 00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:28,799 Can we really live without each other? 1407 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,960 >> We had a huge casting sessions. We had 1408 00:58:28,799 --> 00:58:32,079 hundreds and hundreds of people on tape 1409 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,880 >> and went through the tapes both in 1410 00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:37,200 London and in uh Liverpool and and in 1411 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,880 Manchester 1412 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,400 >> and almost all the people were local 1413 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:43,680 people. I think maybe a [music] few 1414 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:46,480 actors from London. um paperback writer 1415 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:48,079 I think was an actor from London and uh 1416 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:50,720 but most of them were [music] basically 1417 00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:51,200 local people who participated in the 1418 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,040 piece. 1419 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,440 >> Got it. Okay. Can you do that? 1420 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,520 >> Yeah. 1421 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,520 >> All right. 1422 00:59:00,970 --> 00:59:02,990 [music] 1423 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,540 >> [music] 1424 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:21,680 >> going to do like [music] a banquet of 1425 00:59:17,359 --> 00:59:23,520 piggies based on the uh uh 1426 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,040 Sergeant Pepper cover with all these 1427 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,960 celebrities, all these different people 1428 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,920 having dinner. We weren't quite sure how 1429 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,359 we're going to do it. It was probably 1430 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:32,000 going to have to be done digitally after 1431 00:59:29,359 --> 00:59:34,640 the fact, after the production phase. 1432 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,760 and the art director had gone to a prop 1433 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,400 house and found these fabulous little 1434 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,760 piggy masks. And instead of doing this 1435 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,839 really complicated and probably 1436 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:44,079 ponderous scene with all these people at 1437 00:59:41,839 --> 00:59:46,720 a banquet, we just had these little 1438 00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:48,319 children with these very unusual masks 1439 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,160 skipping down a little lane in 1440 00:59:48,319 --> 00:59:52,160 Liverpool, which is far more [music] 1441 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,839 powerful and much more in keeping with 1442 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:57,640 the kind of spirit of what the Beatles 1443 00:59:53,839 --> 00:59:57,640 were at that period of time. 1444 01:00:05,161 --> 01:00:07,181 >> [music] 1445 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,559 >> We storyboarded all the ideas with kinds 1446 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,000 of points of view about the material, 1447 01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:16,160 but we ignored the storyboards 1448 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:18,720 completely once we got to see everything 1449 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:21,359 in practicality. Uh there's nothing 1450 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:23,040 storyboarded about the idea at all. U 1451 01:00:21,359 --> 01:00:24,559 you couldn't storyboard the way the 1452 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,400 camera flowed because the difference in 1453 01:00:24,559 --> 01:00:28,559 perspective of the shots and things. And 1454 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:31,200 one shot in particular was storyboarded. 1455 01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:32,960 The the lotus crashing 1456 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,480 was storyboarded from above. So the bird 1457 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,920 sees from above and you go above it. We 1458 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,240 shot it like that for hours and hours 1459 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,760 and hours. And then at the last minute I 1460 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:42,000 had the steady cam operator do two or 1461 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:44,480 three takes coming from a more normal 1462 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:47,520 perspective. And in the flow of the 1463 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:49,440 piece that became the u key way we 1464 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:53,119 showed it was much more interesting that 1465 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:55,440 way. um much more interesting. the flow, 1466 01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:57,119 the this the shot from above looked nice 1467 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,119 in a storyboard. It was kind of clever 1468 01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:00,480 and from a bird's point of view, but it 1469 01:00:59,119 --> 01:01:02,319 was better to bring the bird down to a 1470 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:07,079 human point of view to see the emotion 1471 01:01:02,319 --> 01:01:07,079 in the car and the smoke in the people. 1472 01:01:09,352 --> 01:01:11,372 [music] 1473 01:01:16,557 --> 01:01:18,577 >> [music] 1474 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:30,079 >> The video's 1475 01:01:27,359 --> 01:01:33,280 uh made up of uh referenced archival 1476 01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:37,599 footage. It's footage that existed 1477 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:40,000 and uh footage that we filmed 1478 01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:42,960 live and then bits and pieces were put 1479 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:45,359 in um at various places which were shot 1480 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:48,559 on a green screen stage which is a way 1481 01:01:45,359 --> 01:01:50,160 to just marry film. Every almost 1482 01:01:48,559 --> 01:01:54,000 everybody knows what that means now 1483 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:55,599 which marries u the live background and 1484 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,920 putting elements into a live background 1485 01:01:55,599 --> 01:02:00,480 to enhance it. A couple of shots would 1486 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:04,427 be the dog running across the front of 1487 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,427 uh the Ellener Riby Cemetery. [music] 1488 01:02:05,359 --> 01:02:13,480 >> Always made me feel 1489 01:02:09,359 --> 01:02:13,480 so free. 1490 01:02:14,852 --> 01:02:16,872 [music] 1491 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,440 >> The elephant was put in in [music] 1492 01:02:20,319 --> 01:02:23,119 post-prouction. We didn't have an 1493 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:26,440 elephant Liverpool walking through that 1494 01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:26,440 hotel room. 1495 01:02:30,573 --> 01:02:33,599 >> [music] 1496 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,240 >> We had to shoot the elephant because 1497 01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:38,240 when the Ringo saw rough cut, he wanted 1498 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:41,599 his elephant. 1499 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:44,880 And uh and u we hadn't shot the elephant 1500 01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:46,640 as part of the piece. 1501 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,799 And Neil called and said Ringo wants an 1502 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,720 elephant in the piece. He says he likes 1503 01:02:48,799 --> 01:02:53,359 everything, but he misses his elephant. 1504 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:56,319 Uh, George wanted a satar 1505 01:02:53,359 --> 01:02:59,359 and uh, Ringo wanted an elephant 1506 01:02:56,319 --> 01:03:02,400 and uh, so we got an elephant and shot 1507 01:02:59,359 --> 01:03:06,598 on a green screen and snuck it in that 1508 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:09,960 procession in the uh, in that ballroom. 1509 01:03:06,598 --> 01:03:09,960 [music] as 1510 01:03:13,148 --> 01:03:15,168 [music] 1511 01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:21,920 the big star of the piece is a Russian 1512 01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:24,880 crane called the Achila crane which 1513 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,559 gives these big sweeping moves and the 1514 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,920 shot at Abby road at the end it comes 1515 01:03:26,559 --> 01:03:30,880 down and sweeps up again couldn't be 1516 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,880 done with a luma crane 1517 01:03:32,798 --> 01:03:34,818 >> [music] 1518 01:03:41,314 --> 01:03:43,334 [music] 1519 01:03:47,839 --> 01:03:52,240 >> That was the star of the piece. Uh then 1520 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:55,440 we used the lumac crane for [music] more 1521 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:57,599 uh precise shots, uh smaller shots and a 1522 01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:00,799 steady cam operator. 1523 01:03:57,599 --> 01:04:03,280 And uh we also had a little tiny remotec 1524 01:04:00,799 --> 01:04:05,440 controlled helicopter, tiny helicopter 1525 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:08,839 with a video camera on it to do 1526 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,839 intricate shots. 1527 01:04:10,789 --> 01:04:14,640 [music] 1528 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:16,160 The thing that I'm most happy with is 1529 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:19,839 the fact that the seamlessness [music] 1530 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:21,440 of the piece uh works. The transition 1531 01:04:19,839 --> 01:04:23,119 between scenes doesn't look like oh all 1532 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,319 of a sudden there's a transition. Many 1533 01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:26,400 of them are completely [music] invisible 1534 01:04:24,319 --> 01:04:28,160 to even people in the industry. So that 1535 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,140 that the seamlessness of everything 1536 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,680 marrying all these bits and pieces 1537 01:04:29,140 --> 01:04:33,520 [music] of things archival footage new 1538 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:36,400 new footage shot on green screen plus 1539 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:40,319 the the uh production footage which was 1540 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,319 live made me very happy. [music] 1541 01:04:46,799 --> 01:04:50,839 >> So free 1542 01:04:52,054 --> 01:04:54,074 [music] 1543 01:04:57,949 --> 01:04:59,969 >> [music] 1544 01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:08,160 >> We're given this piece that represents 1545 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:09,520 something that's incredibly precious to 1546 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:12,799 untold numbers of people around the 1547 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:14,640 world and we had to protect it in 1548 01:05:12,799 --> 01:05:17,599 addition to do something that inspired 1549 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,799 people. So we there was a duality there. 1550 01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:21,200 One, we want to do something very 1551 01:05:18,799 --> 01:05:24,960 creative and functional 1552 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:27,599 and do the job as a professional piece. 1553 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:30,000 On the other hand, we had to respect 1554 01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:32,240 everything that had gone before. I felt 1555 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:36,319 that we succeeded in respecting the 1556 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:38,240 tradition and and bringing it forward 1557 01:05:36,319 --> 01:05:40,720 and and inspiring it and looking at it a 1558 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:43,200 fresh and unusual way, which even 1559 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,559 reflects how the song was created. One 1560 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:48,000 of the things that's a bit heartbreaking 1561 01:05:44,559 --> 01:05:50,319 is that the uh the player at the end, 1562 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:52,000 the ukulele player 1563 01:05:50,319 --> 01:05:53,760 or banjo, whatever you want to call it, 1564 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,520 George wanted to play that part and I 1565 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,799 resisted saying that if I put him in, 1566 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,400 then I'd put some of the other Beatles 1567 01:05:56,799 --> 01:06:00,559 in. And I didn't think we wanted to see 1568 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,079 a contemporary Beatles in the piece. So 1569 01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:04,240 I said, "No, no, no." And he says, 1570 01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:05,760 "Okay." 1571 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,520 thinking that they had sampled an 1572 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,039 archival piece of music. And it turns 1573 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,520 out that George had actually performed 1574 01:06:09,039 --> 01:06:14,000 that on the 1575 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,039 uh song. Had I known that, I would have 1576 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,880 had him do it because you only see him 1577 01:06:15,039 --> 01:06:18,079 from the back anyway. But I'm heart 1578 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,000 actually heartbroken about not letting 1579 01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:23,240 him do that piece, especially now more 1580 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,240 than ever. 1581 01:06:25,065 --> 01:06:27,085 [music] 1582 01:06:30,306 --> 01:06:32,326 >> [music] 1583 01:06:36,201 --> 01:06:41,559 [music] 1584 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,559 >> Good job, buddy. 1585 01:06:45,371 --> 01:06:47,391 [applause] 1586 01:07:03,359 --> 01:07:06,559 The anthology, what we call the 1587 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,079 anthology, was originally called the 1588 01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:10,400 long and winding road. You know, it was 1589 01:07:08,079 --> 01:07:12,799 the idea was for the boys to make their 1590 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:15,359 own life story rather than entrust it to 1591 01:07:12,799 --> 01:07:17,760 somebody else. And that made sense 1592 01:07:15,359 --> 01:07:20,799 because they knew better than anybody 1593 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:22,640 what had been going on. Um, and somebody 1594 01:07:20,799 --> 01:07:25,760 thought it'd be a good idea to have 1595 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:28,160 audio equivalent, but it's no good just 1596 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,680 doing a soundtrack of of a film because 1597 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:32,000 if you do that, there's an awful lot of 1598 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:34,240 missing. You know, the vision takes 1599 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:37,440 over. So, what we're providing is 1600 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:39,039 something that is a complement to it. 1601 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:42,400 That's something that runs parallel, but 1602 01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:45,599 is pure sound. The main gist of it is 1603 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:48,880 with the music to find the most ancient 1604 01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:51,440 Beatle music possible 1605 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:55,599 and come in chronological order through 1606 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:59,359 the various other uh records we'd made 1607 01:07:55,599 --> 01:08:01,599 and um bring it up to date up to now. 1608 01:07:59,359 --> 01:08:04,240 What we do is we lead the CD with the 1609 01:08:01,599 --> 01:08:06,559 new song Free as a Bird, which we figure 1610 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:08,240 is what people have waiting to hear. You 1611 01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:12,000 know how we did on that. So that's the 1612 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:13,359 opening track. Um, and then what we do 1613 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:17,359 is flash back 1614 01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:19,839 >> also as the documentary uh starts and 1615 01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:21,600 then goes backwards. You know, there's a 1616 01:08:19,839 --> 01:08:23,199 little area in the very opening where he 1617 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:26,400 says, "Let's go back, back, back, back, 1618 01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:30,440 back." And it backs up until Ringo is 1619 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,440 about 6 months old. 1620 01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:36,719 And then 1621 01:08:33,679 --> 01:08:38,640 the record we thought, you know, could 1622 01:08:36,719 --> 01:08:40,960 work in that respect. There's a lot of 1623 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:43,279 stuff, you know, from old tape recorders 1624 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:45,759 of George, uh, you know, George on some, 1625 01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:48,080 but Paul and John messing around, you 1626 01:08:45,759 --> 01:08:49,520 know, singing and playing guitars, uh, 1627 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:52,000 before I was in the band. 1628 01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:54,400 >> And then we go into old recordings, 1629 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:56,799 which are from when we were about 14 or 1630 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:59,520 15, which we haven't heard forever, you 1631 01:08:56,799 --> 01:09:02,000 know, they've they're like, uh, little 1632 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:04,480 things in my front room. And these are 1633 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:06,480 interesting because 1634 01:09:04,480 --> 01:09:08,799 they include a track where Stuart 1635 01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:11,359 Suckliffe is playing 1636 01:09:08,799 --> 01:09:14,719 and um it its bass guitar is not very 1637 01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:16,319 good but it's it's it's historic. 1638 01:09:14,719 --> 01:09:20,000 >> You know, we're talking really about a 1639 01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:22,239 historical thing now. And I for one 1640 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:24,880 don't mind it being old and scratchy 1641 01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:27,440 because most of the music I buy is old 1642 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:29,920 and scratchy. you know, you know, music 1643 01:09:27,440 --> 01:09:33,359 that was recorded in the very early, you 1644 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:34,960 know, 20s and 30s and stuff. I like a 1645 01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:36,880 bit of tape his personally, 1646 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,080 >> but it's good story. It's not the 1647 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,080 quality you're listening to. It's the 1648 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:42,159 sort of story and you can see our 1649 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:45,120 development. You can see it happening. 1650 01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:48,000 >> And we hear some of the stuff at EMI on 1651 01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:49,359 when I first met them in 1962. 1652 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,759 Uh there are a couple of tracks there, 1653 01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:54,000 the very early version of Love Me Do, 1654 01:09:51,759 --> 01:09:56,880 which with the Pete Best on drums, which 1655 01:09:54,000 --> 01:10:00,159 no one's heard. Now, no tapes exist of 1656 01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:02,000 that, but he managed to find it on a 1657 01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:05,440 little acetate because they'd cut it 1658 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:07,600 onto disc. He found that and then that's 1659 01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:09,679 been recopied back onto tape. 1660 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:12,239 >> When I was asked to do this proh 1661 01:10:09,679 --> 01:10:14,640 project, I said there's no way that I'm 1662 01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:17,520 going to mix this on a on a modern 1663 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:20,159 digital machine because it wouldn't be 1664 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:22,000 true to type. It wouldn't be what people 1665 01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:25,040 did in those days. And I'm I'm dealing 1666 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:26,880 with these old tapes. So I asked EMI if 1667 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:28,640 they could find an old desk and bring it 1668 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:31,199 in for me. And so they they managed to 1669 01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:33,360 find this one uh which was still in the 1670 01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:35,760 possession of one of their engineers and 1671 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:38,000 they brought it in and it's a super 1672 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:40,880 desk, marvelous machine to have. This 1673 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,560 was in number two studio Abby road and 1674 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:45,600 it was the state-of-the-art in those 1675 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:48,800 days but it it now it's so looks so 1676 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:51,040 old-fashioned but of course it does it's 1677 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,560 very appropriate that we work on this 1678 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:55,040 because it actually does make a 1679 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:57,120 different sound from today's discs. So 1680 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:59,440 we're getting right back retro to the 1681 01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:01,520 old days and doing this stuff and it 1682 01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:02,880 sounds all the better for it and I'm 1683 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:05,199 staying in the analog and the 1684 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:07,760 oldfashioned mode until the very last 1685 01:11:05,199 --> 01:11:11,360 moment until it goes onto CD. so that we 1686 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:14,000 keep the authenticity of it. Um, a lot 1687 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,920 of these tapes we're working on are two 1688 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:19,120 track, four track, eight track, never 1689 01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:22,560 more than eight track. And we still have 1690 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:25,840 the old tapes. And this is an old box 1691 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:27,280 and they're 1 in tapes. And there's a 1692 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,920 four track machine. It's a modern 1693 01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:31,520 machine, but it is still the old vintage 1694 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:34,320 tapes of 32 years ago. 1695 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:36,719 >> It's like uh the Beatles progression. 1696 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,760 And I'm halfway through that CD before I 1697 01:11:36,719 --> 01:11:39,360 enter the picture. 1698 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:42,000 >> Oh, it just keeps on coming. There's a 1699 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:46,000 lot of very early years, but stuff that 1700 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:48,400 hasn't been heard. Television or radio 1701 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:50,320 shows from Sweden and various things 1702 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:52,400 from the command performance, things 1703 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:54,800 that just had a one showing on 1704 01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:57,520 television, but we managed to get the 1705 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:59,440 find the soundtracks to some variety 1706 01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,400 shows we did on television in those 1707 01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:02,159 early days. 1708 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,920 >> There isn't a lot of live stuff out on 1709 01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:06,480 the Beatles, and I haven't even got it. 1710 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:08,400 So it was was a pleasure for me to hear, 1711 01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:09,840 you know, cuz they were a great little 1712 01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:12,080 band. 1713 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:14,880 >> We've been listening to every take of 1714 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:16,880 every song we've done and going back 1715 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,400 over those times and we've discovered 1716 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:21,760 some interesting stuff. I mean, some of 1717 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:23,760 the very early takes of most numbers are 1718 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:26,960 interesting seeing how the songs 1719 01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:29,040 developed, how they changed. In fact, in 1720 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,400 some instances, they started quite 1721 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:33,280 differently to the masters that we 1722 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:35,600 everybody knows. Then we get into sort 1723 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:39,040 of crossfading like you know take one to 1724 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:42,239 take four. So and some on some of them 1725 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:44,080 where you know we were just working the 1726 01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:45,520 song out you know still running through 1727 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,679 it because we always ran through the 1728 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:49,760 song. We very seldom stay you know sat 1729 01:12:47,679 --> 01:12:51,679 around like when the tape was running 1730 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:56,159 said oh let's do this now like run it 1731 01:12:51,679 --> 01:12:58,719 down. And so the the attitude it was 1732 01:12:56,159 --> 01:13:01,600 like at the beginning to seven takes 1733 01:12:58,719 --> 01:13:03,600 later it's just like a mile you know 1734 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:06,320 it's not like oh we've changed you know 1735 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:08,000 a note I mean we changed the whole thing 1736 01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,640 working on it working on it changing it 1737 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,640 changing it 1738 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:13,440 >> one of the strengths of the Beatles was 1739 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:16,159 the fact that they had eternal curiosity 1740 01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:17,920 they had eternal quest for something new 1741 01:13:16,159 --> 01:13:20,080 exhaustively so for me I mean they were 1742 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,840 always saying what new sound can we have 1743 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,360 you know what what other instruments do 1744 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,960 you know you know what can you do to 1745 01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:27,120 make this better? Give me a different 1746 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:30,000 sound of the voice. And they were they 1747 01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:30,880 were not content with what they had 1748 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:34,000 yesterday. 1749 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:35,600 >> The one interesting thing was that um we 1750 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:38,719 always thought that people like the 1751 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:40,320 Supremes kind of made a good record, but 1752 01:13:38,719 --> 01:13:41,920 then they repeated the good record and 1753 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,840 the next record was sort of the same 1754 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,840 record. It was the Supreme sound, the 1755 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:48,320 Mottown sound. So after about three of 1756 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:50,320 those, we liked the first one really. 1757 01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:52,960 Second one was not so good and it paded 1758 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:54,880 a bit, you know. Um, so I think we were 1759 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,760 kind of conscious of trying not to 1760 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,280 repeat ourselves 1761 01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:59,360 >> and the songwriting got better and our 1762 01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:01,679 playing got better. So it just all you 1763 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:03,040 know it all just grew. The music was 1764 01:14:01,679 --> 01:14:07,600 always there in the background 1765 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:10,159 reflecting our feelings and our desires 1766 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:12,560 and uh 1767 01:14:10,159 --> 01:14:15,360 and all the various um things we'd 1768 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:18,480 experienced. And I think it does it goes 1769 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:21,120 in leaps and bounds and 1770 01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:24,960 it's pretty interesting. Now, I thought 1771 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:26,960 we'd have a listen to a bit of an old 1772 01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,719 recording that we've been working on. 1773 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,640 This doesn't require a great deal of 1774 01:14:28,719 --> 01:14:33,600 balancing. It's a recording made on the 1775 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:35,120 19th of January, 1967. And the reason it 1776 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,520 doesn't require much balancing is it's 1777 01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:39,360 only got two tracks on it. 1778 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,840 It was a fourtrack tape, but this was 1779 01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:44,239 the very first time we heard a day in 1780 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:47,120 the life in the studio. 1781 01:14:44,239 --> 01:14:49,360 And we didn't use this. This was the 1782 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:52,159 first version. The master came a bit 1783 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:54,880 later. And this is the version without 1784 01:14:52,159 --> 01:14:58,239 Paul's middle bit uh and without the 1785 01:14:54,880 --> 01:15:01,120 orchestra. And John is just singing it 1786 01:14:58,239 --> 01:15:02,960 really for himself. And I think it's 1787 01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:07,640 charming. And I'm I'm going to put it 1788 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:07,640 up. Okay, Paul, let's have a listen. 1789 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:18,297 >> Sugar bum fairy. Sugar bum fairy. 1790 01:15:16,277 --> 01:15:18,297 [music] 1791 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:22,120 Sugar plum fairy. 1792 01:15:24,136 --> 01:15:26,156 [music] 1793 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:38,602 I read [singing] the news today. Oh boy, 1794 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,602 about a lucky man. [singing and music] 1795 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:46,360 And [singing] another news was run 1796 01:15:43,132 --> 01:15:46,360 [music] aside. 1797 01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:51,702 Well, I just had to laugh. 1798 01:15:49,682 --> 01:15:51,702 [singing and music] 1799 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:57,239 I saw the photograph. 1800 01:15:58,197 --> 01:16:04,679 [music] 1801 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:04,679 He blew his mind out in a [singing] car. 1802 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:10,960 He didn't notice [music] that the lights 1803 01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:12,719 had changed. 1804 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:15,280 A crowd of people [singing and music] 1805 01:16:12,719 --> 01:16:17,920 stood and stared. 1806 01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:20,480 I think that early take of John is so 1807 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:22,880 charming, so natural. He he wasn't 1808 01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:24,159 expecting people 32 years later to be 1809 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:26,080 listening to it. 1810 01:16:24,159 --> 01:16:28,080 >> Sometimes after 19 takes, you know, no 1811 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:30,080 matter how professional you are, there's 1812 01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:32,480 the boredom creeps in. You can just hear 1813 01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,760 it like it's very goes very perfect, 1814 01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:35,360 >> but you suddenly if you listen to an 1815 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,760 early take, you go, "God, sounds like 1816 01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:39,600 they were really enjoying it on that." 1817 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,159 And uh that's one of the things I like 1818 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,840 about it. 1819 01:16:40,159 --> 01:16:44,560 >> Now, as it gets into all the other 1820 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:47,760 stuff, we found different outtakes. 1821 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:50,719 um or maybe a version of something that 1822 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:52,880 had maybe some vocals that were 1823 01:16:50,719 --> 01:16:54,400 different to the vocals that ended up on 1824 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,159 the master. So what we've done is 1825 01:16:54,400 --> 01:17:00,480 present the alternate version. 1826 01:16:56,159 --> 01:17:02,000 >> You hear the songs for what they are. I 1827 01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:03,199 know George Martin when we listen to a 1828 01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,640 lot of this stuff, he said, "Well, why 1829 01:17:03,199 --> 01:17:06,960 did we ever feel we had to do them 1830 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,800 again? This sounds so good just on their 1831 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:10,560 own." I said, "Well, you know, probably 1832 01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,719 the same old creative thing. Oh, maybe 1833 01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:14,080 we could get it a bit better if we put a 1834 01:17:12,719 --> 01:17:16,080 little bit of drums on it or maybe if we 1835 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:18,159 tried banjo, you know, you're always 1836 01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:20,480 questioned to try and get better. 1837 01:17:18,159 --> 01:17:22,800 >> Normally, I don't think back on the past 1838 01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:24,560 at all, but I've had to because of this. 1839 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,679 And it's been a strange experience. Paul 1840 01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:30,480 actually said to me, he said, you know, 1841 01:17:25,679 --> 01:17:34,080 it's a hearing as we were 30 years ago, 1842 01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:37,679 25 years ago, and hearing us chatting 1843 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:40,880 away. Um, it's strange experience. It's 1844 01:17:37,679 --> 01:17:44,560 like looking into an old scrapbook, but 1845 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,560 it coming to life most vividly. 125248

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