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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,268 --> 00:00:10,793 We're sending you back to the future! 2 00:00:10,836 --> 00:00:13,230 Reeves: Why is time travel fun? 3 00:00:13,274 --> 00:00:14,840 Here we go. 4 00:00:14,884 --> 00:00:17,017 Because who doesn't wonder about the past? 5 00:00:17,060 --> 00:00:19,497 Who doesn't wonder about the future? 6 00:00:19,541 --> 00:00:23,458 Somebody comes back from the future to change what happened. 7 00:00:23,501 --> 00:00:26,156 Are we basically in a movie that's already been shot? 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,810 I'll be back. 9 00:00:27,853 --> 00:00:29,986 Yaszek: Time travel stories embrace the potential 10 00:00:30,030 --> 00:00:33,163 that we might open up new timelines, new worlds, 11 00:00:33,207 --> 00:00:36,079 and new possibilities for ourselves as people. 12 00:00:36,123 --> 00:00:41,824 That kind of imagination which can see through everything. 13 00:00:41,867 --> 00:00:44,000 Spielberg: What are we always trying to do when we 14 00:00:44,044 --> 00:00:45,523 tell stories about time travel? 15 00:00:45,567 --> 00:00:47,351 What I'm always trying to do is to touch people 16 00:00:47,395 --> 00:00:48,918 in the heart. 17 00:00:48,961 --> 00:00:50,746 Today, I'm the age you were when you left. 18 00:00:50,789 --> 00:00:53,270 This would be a real good time for you to come back. 19 00:00:53,314 --> 00:00:56,099 Gleick: If we can go any place we want in time, 20 00:00:56,143 --> 00:00:58,362 time is no longer our jailor. 21 00:00:58,406 --> 00:01:03,976 Every second of our past makes us who we are. 22 00:01:04,020 --> 00:01:07,023 And the idea that we could relive that or view it 23 00:01:07,067 --> 00:01:08,677 from another perspective 24 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,682 is so human, and so spiritual, I think that it touches everyone. 25 00:01:14,726 --> 00:01:21,733 ♪♪ 26 00:01:25,824 --> 00:01:32,831 ♪♪ 27 00:01:36,879 --> 00:01:43,886 ♪♪ 28 00:01:47,977 --> 00:01:49,370 Cameron: You've basically covered just about 29 00:01:49,413 --> 00:01:51,502 every base in science fiction, 30 00:01:51,546 --> 00:01:56,551 from alien contact, monsters, space travel, everything, 31 00:01:56,594 --> 00:01:58,161 and you executive produced 32 00:01:58,205 --> 00:01:59,945 the "Back To The Future" series of films. 33 00:01:59,989 --> 00:02:01,295 Series. Yeah. 34 00:02:01,338 --> 00:02:02,948 Do you think time travel is possible? 35 00:02:02,992 --> 00:02:04,341 I asked Stephen Hawking that one day, 36 00:02:04,385 --> 00:02:05,908 when I worked with Errol Morris. 37 00:02:05,951 --> 00:02:07,388 How many people get to say that? 38 00:02:07,431 --> 00:02:09,085 But when I was working with Errol Morris 39 00:02:09,129 --> 00:02:11,566 as his executive producer on the documentary 40 00:02:11,609 --> 00:02:14,090 on Stephen Hawking's book, "A Brief History of Time." 41 00:02:14,134 --> 00:02:15,787 I asked Stephen Hawking that question 42 00:02:15,831 --> 00:02:18,138 because "Back To The Future" just came out. 43 00:02:18,181 --> 00:02:19,922 And Stephen Hawking said it's very possible 44 00:02:19,965 --> 00:02:21,141 to go into the future, 45 00:02:21,184 --> 00:02:22,925 but impossible to go back into the past. 46 00:02:22,968 --> 00:02:26,885 Hey, we're time traveling now at one minute per minute. 47 00:02:26,929 --> 00:02:29,410 So he kind of was eluding to the fact that everything in 48 00:02:29,453 --> 00:02:31,542 "Back To The Future" could never happen. 49 00:02:31,586 --> 00:02:33,065 Couldn't really happen. 50 00:02:34,284 --> 00:02:35,981 ♪♪ 51 00:02:36,025 --> 00:02:38,506 Jonathan: The classical idea of a time machine in which 52 00:02:38,549 --> 00:02:40,377 you can go into it at one point in time 53 00:02:40,421 --> 00:02:42,858 and come back out the other side at some other point in time, 54 00:02:42,901 --> 00:02:46,166 it's almost certainly impossible. 55 00:02:49,386 --> 00:02:50,822 [ Screams ] 56 00:02:50,866 --> 00:02:52,389 But what's beautiful about filmmaking 57 00:02:52,433 --> 00:02:55,479 is you don't have to listen to the physicist. 58 00:02:55,523 --> 00:02:57,394 Whether or not time travel exists, 59 00:02:57,438 --> 00:03:00,092 it speaks to that question of free will, essentially. 60 00:03:00,136 --> 00:03:01,311 That's the question we're playing with 61 00:03:01,355 --> 00:03:04,227 when we're playing with time travel. 62 00:03:04,271 --> 00:03:06,229 It opens up all sorts of fascinating 63 00:03:06,273 --> 00:03:11,713 thought experiments about how that might play out. 64 00:03:11,756 --> 00:03:13,410 Gale: In the summer of 1980, 65 00:03:13,454 --> 00:03:15,499 I discovered my father's high school yearbook 66 00:03:15,543 --> 00:03:17,588 and that was where the proverbial bolt 67 00:03:17,632 --> 00:03:19,590 of lightning struck. 68 00:03:19,634 --> 00:03:23,420 What if you could go to high school with your dad? 69 00:03:23,464 --> 00:03:25,596 And what if your mom went to the same high school? 70 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:27,076 Don't I know you from somewhere? 71 00:03:27,119 --> 00:03:29,948 Yes, I'm your density... 72 00:03:29,992 --> 00:03:31,559 Who wouldn't want to be a fly on the wall 73 00:03:31,602 --> 00:03:33,691 on their parents' first date, right? 74 00:03:35,693 --> 00:03:38,609 So in "Back To The Future," a kid named Marty McFly 75 00:03:38,653 --> 00:03:41,046 accidentally goes back in time, 76 00:03:41,090 --> 00:03:43,875 and interferes with the event 77 00:03:43,919 --> 00:03:47,488 that made his parents meet and fall in love. 78 00:03:47,531 --> 00:03:50,186 So Marty has two problems. 79 00:03:50,230 --> 00:03:52,710 One -- he has to get back to 1985, 80 00:03:52,754 --> 00:03:55,496 but before he can do that he has to make sure 81 00:03:55,539 --> 00:03:58,150 that he puts the love affair between his father 82 00:03:58,194 --> 00:04:00,501 and his mother back on track. 83 00:04:02,851 --> 00:04:06,289 Lloyd: Everybody has that fantasy -- time travel -- 84 00:04:06,333 --> 00:04:11,294 and I feel "Back To The Future" just makes it so rich 85 00:04:11,338 --> 00:04:17,126 with possibility, with a kid, this crazy guy, and a DeLorean! 86 00:04:17,169 --> 00:04:21,435 You know, I mean, it's just, my God! 87 00:04:21,478 --> 00:04:23,654 Yaszek: So there have been time travel stories in the past, 88 00:04:23,698 --> 00:04:26,222 such as Charles Dickens' "A Christmas Carol," 89 00:04:26,266 --> 00:04:29,181 in which Scrooge travels by means of dream visions 90 00:04:29,225 --> 00:04:33,316 that allow him to visit the past and the present and the future. 91 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,667 In Mark Twain's "A Connecticut Yankee In King Arthur's Court," 92 00:04:36,711 --> 00:04:38,321 our protagonist is bonked on the head, 93 00:04:38,365 --> 00:04:41,368 and that's what returns him to medieval England. 94 00:04:43,631 --> 00:04:45,328 We never bought that stuff. 95 00:04:45,372 --> 00:04:49,114 We wanted it to be scientific. 96 00:04:49,158 --> 00:04:53,858 It's gotta be via a time machine of some sort. 97 00:04:53,902 --> 00:04:57,035 So, that would be some guy who invented time travel 98 00:04:57,079 --> 00:04:58,515 in his garage, 99 00:04:58,559 --> 00:05:02,606 and that of course is Dr. Emmett L. Brown. 100 00:05:02,650 --> 00:05:04,173 Doc? 101 00:05:04,216 --> 00:05:05,957 Don't say a word! 102 00:05:06,001 --> 00:05:11,006 I just loved this Doc who is feverishly trying to invent 103 00:05:11,049 --> 00:05:13,443 everything he could imagine inventing, 104 00:05:13,487 --> 00:05:16,272 and time travel of course would be the ultimate. 105 00:05:16,316 --> 00:05:19,362 When this baby hits 88 miles per hour, 106 00:05:19,406 --> 00:05:22,278 you're going to see some serious [bleep] 107 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:26,238 His excitement about achieving that is incredible. 108 00:05:26,282 --> 00:05:27,762 I loved it. 109 00:05:27,805 --> 00:05:30,895 Mark. Action! 110 00:05:30,939 --> 00:05:33,376 Wolfe: Movies like "Back to the Future" 111 00:05:33,420 --> 00:05:35,813 provide a kind of tutorial about how paradoxes 112 00:05:35,857 --> 00:05:37,424 are things you can play with. 113 00:05:37,467 --> 00:05:40,383 Prior to this point in time, somewhere in the past, 114 00:05:40,427 --> 00:05:43,081 the time line skewed into this tangent, 115 00:05:43,125 --> 00:05:45,736 creating an alternate 1985. 116 00:05:45,780 --> 00:05:48,348 Lloyd: It's necessary for Doc to say it, 117 00:05:48,391 --> 00:05:51,351 not just for the audience to be caught up with the story, 118 00:05:51,394 --> 00:05:53,309 but because he's gotta say -- 119 00:05:53,353 --> 00:05:55,093 "I've got to do this because of this because if that happens, 120 00:05:55,137 --> 00:05:56,921 then you've got this going!" 121 00:05:56,965 --> 00:05:58,270 Marty, whatever happens, 122 00:05:58,314 --> 00:05:59,750 you must not let your other self see you. 123 00:05:59,794 --> 00:06:02,100 The consequences could be disastrous. 124 00:06:02,144 --> 00:06:04,102 Excuse me, sir? 125 00:06:04,146 --> 00:06:08,324 He's in total terror that one mistake of judgment 126 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:12,241 and the whole cosmos could collapse. 127 00:06:12,284 --> 00:06:15,418 This is the thing that every writer always struggles with 128 00:06:15,462 --> 00:06:16,985 in time travel stories. 129 00:06:17,028 --> 00:06:20,075 If you go back in time and something that you do 130 00:06:20,118 --> 00:06:21,424 when you're back there, 131 00:06:21,468 --> 00:06:23,252 causes the death of your grandfather 132 00:06:23,295 --> 00:06:26,516 before he has impregnated your grandmother, 133 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,476 and you therefore cease to exist. 134 00:06:29,519 --> 00:06:32,696 -Right. -But if you cease to exist, 135 00:06:32,740 --> 00:06:34,568 then you weren't around 136 00:06:34,611 --> 00:06:36,308 to get in the time machine in the first place 137 00:06:36,352 --> 00:06:38,746 and to go back in time and do that. 138 00:06:38,789 --> 00:06:40,704 So what happens? 139 00:06:40,748 --> 00:06:42,097 [ Laughs ] 140 00:06:42,140 --> 00:06:43,968 They call it the grandfather paradox. 141 00:06:44,012 --> 00:06:45,535 Now remember, according to my theory 142 00:06:45,579 --> 00:06:47,232 you interfered with your parents first meeting. 143 00:06:47,276 --> 00:06:48,886 If they don't meet they won't fall in love, 144 00:06:48,930 --> 00:06:50,540 they won't get married, and they won't have kids. 145 00:06:50,584 --> 00:06:53,978 "Back To The Future" laid out its rules so clearly, 146 00:06:54,022 --> 00:06:56,111 it effectively taught the movie audience 147 00:06:56,154 --> 00:06:58,374 this is what happens when you change the past, 148 00:06:58,418 --> 00:07:01,899 this is what an alternate timeline might look like. 149 00:07:01,943 --> 00:07:03,640 There are also kind of creepy questions like 150 00:07:03,684 --> 00:07:05,294 what happens when your mom falls in love 151 00:07:05,337 --> 00:07:09,429 with you as a teenager... 152 00:07:09,472 --> 00:07:12,083 The most memorable piece 153 00:07:12,127 --> 00:07:15,870 is Marty's photograph of himself from the '80s, 154 00:07:15,913 --> 00:07:18,916 which he carries around with him back into the '50s 155 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,877 and keeps looking at it to make sure he's still in the picture. 156 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,096 Erased from existence. 157 00:07:25,140 --> 00:07:27,142 So the photograph itself is obviously 158 00:07:27,185 --> 00:07:28,752 incredibly paradoxical. 159 00:07:28,796 --> 00:07:30,406 Because why would his brother and sister be there 160 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:32,016 if his parents had never met? 161 00:07:32,060 --> 00:07:33,714 And like, why would there even have been a photograph 162 00:07:33,757 --> 00:07:35,498 in the first place? 163 00:07:35,542 --> 00:07:37,979 But nobody ever stops to think about that, 164 00:07:38,022 --> 00:07:41,678 because we've set up this rule that says that 165 00:07:41,722 --> 00:07:43,941 when Marty disappears from this photo, 166 00:07:43,985 --> 00:07:47,467 he's going to fade out of existence. 167 00:07:47,510 --> 00:07:50,513 It's a perfect dramatization of the idea 168 00:07:50,557 --> 00:07:54,299 of erasing yourself from the timeline. 169 00:07:54,343 --> 00:07:55,866 Time travel movies sort of invent 170 00:07:55,910 --> 00:07:59,348 whatever device will create the best story. 171 00:07:59,391 --> 00:08:02,394 "Back To The Future" really set up a mousetrap 172 00:08:02,438 --> 00:08:05,876 to create the perfect kind of suspense. 173 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,923 ♪ ...the vision of your happiness ♪ 174 00:08:08,966 --> 00:08:10,794 ♪ Whoa, oh-oh-oh 175 00:08:10,838 --> 00:08:15,103 ♪ Earth angel, earth angel 176 00:08:15,146 --> 00:08:18,367 ♪ Please be mine 177 00:08:18,410 --> 00:08:20,935 ♪♪ 178 00:08:20,978 --> 00:08:23,981 Time travel opens up a lot of possibilities. 179 00:08:24,025 --> 00:08:25,417 So you can have an alternate history, 180 00:08:25,461 --> 00:08:27,289 you can have an alternate present. 181 00:08:27,332 --> 00:08:31,554 It allows us to change a lot of different weird things 182 00:08:31,598 --> 00:08:34,426 about our reality. 183 00:08:34,470 --> 00:08:37,473 And the possibilities are kind of limitless. 184 00:08:42,347 --> 00:08:45,350 Why is so much of our fantasy, you know our, 185 00:08:45,394 --> 00:08:48,136 our imagination in science fiction genre 186 00:08:48,179 --> 00:08:50,007 taken up with this idea of time travel? 187 00:08:50,051 --> 00:08:51,531 Because we can't do it. 188 00:08:51,574 --> 00:08:54,229 I think it is just wonderful to see it on the screen 189 00:08:54,272 --> 00:08:57,580 and imagine ourselves being in that situation. 190 00:08:57,624 --> 00:09:00,801 I would have loved to be able to time travel. 191 00:09:00,844 --> 00:09:03,368 I mean, imagine to go back and say, 192 00:09:03,412 --> 00:09:05,109 "I'm not going to do 'Hercules In New York.'" 193 00:09:05,153 --> 00:09:06,807 My name is Hercules. 194 00:09:06,850 --> 00:09:09,592 Hercules, Schmercules. Give me the dough! 195 00:09:09,636 --> 00:09:11,507 I mean, it's like, unbelievable. 196 00:09:11,551 --> 00:09:13,770 That's the thing you want to go back and do? 197 00:09:13,814 --> 00:09:15,946 Not meet Jesus, not kill Hitler. 198 00:09:15,990 --> 00:09:18,470 You want to go back and fix that one movie. 199 00:09:18,514 --> 00:09:20,124 This haunts you. 200 00:09:20,168 --> 00:09:22,649 To go to kill Hitler or to go and be back in the Roman days, 201 00:09:22,692 --> 00:09:24,738 wow, it would be really interesting 202 00:09:24,781 --> 00:09:26,000 to be able to time travel. 203 00:09:26,043 --> 00:09:27,479 But the question is, 204 00:09:27,523 --> 00:09:29,438 If you can move back and forth in time, 205 00:09:29,481 --> 00:09:31,614 do we have free will? Right. 206 00:09:31,658 --> 00:09:34,138 Because "The Terminator" movies are kind of about that. 207 00:09:34,182 --> 00:09:35,966 They're about free will. 208 00:09:36,010 --> 00:09:38,490 If somebody comes back from the future 209 00:09:38,534 --> 00:09:41,493 to change what happens down there, 210 00:09:41,537 --> 00:09:45,802 then are we just all puppets of a time line? 211 00:09:45,846 --> 00:09:48,849 I have total faith in you that you will figure it out. 212 00:09:48,892 --> 00:09:51,808 [ Electricity crackling ] 213 00:09:51,852 --> 00:09:57,074 ♪♪ 214 00:09:57,118 --> 00:09:59,511 Singer: There's an interesting theme in "The Terminator" about 215 00:09:59,555 --> 00:10:01,513 Can we change the past? 216 00:10:01,557 --> 00:10:05,082 Can we change the future? 217 00:10:05,126 --> 00:10:08,520 And what you see is the future coming back to destroy the past. 218 00:10:08,564 --> 00:10:10,914 The Terminator coming back to try to kill 219 00:10:10,958 --> 00:10:14,048 Sarah Connor also brings back Kyle Reese... 220 00:10:16,572 --> 00:10:19,662 Who becomes the father to John Connor 221 00:10:19,706 --> 00:10:23,666 and creates the leader of humanity. 222 00:10:23,710 --> 00:10:27,452 The time machine was a mechanism to put the Terminator 223 00:10:27,496 --> 00:10:31,935 and also Michael Biehn, the soldier, into the past. 224 00:10:31,979 --> 00:10:37,027 That character was sent by John Connor in the future 225 00:10:37,071 --> 00:10:38,899 to go back in time 226 00:10:38,942 --> 00:10:42,554 to protect this girl from the Terminator. 227 00:10:42,598 --> 00:10:45,253 Gerrold: Once they're there, then you have this chase, 228 00:10:45,296 --> 00:10:48,822 who's gonna rescue Sarah Connor or is she gonna get killed? 229 00:10:51,346 --> 00:10:54,654 Science fiction is a great place to ask is our destiny fixed? 230 00:10:54,697 --> 00:10:56,394 Or can we change it? 231 00:10:56,438 --> 00:10:57,874 I didn't do anything. 232 00:10:57,918 --> 00:10:59,659 No, but you will. 233 00:10:59,702 --> 00:11:02,357 The question is are we locked into one series of events? 234 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,228 Like, by the end of the first film, 235 00:11:04,272 --> 00:11:06,056 you realize you're seeing the creation myth 236 00:11:06,100 --> 00:11:10,670 of the thing they've gone back to prevent in the first place. 237 00:11:10,713 --> 00:11:13,716 The 2nd film opens up the possibility 238 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,198 and Sarah Connor speaks to it directly. 239 00:11:17,241 --> 00:11:19,417 Maybe that's not the universe we're stuck in. 240 00:11:19,461 --> 00:11:21,158 Maybe the future isn't written. 241 00:11:21,202 --> 00:11:22,899 Sarah sticks a knife in the table and says, 242 00:11:22,943 --> 00:11:25,249 "There's no fate but what we make for ourselves." 243 00:11:25,293 --> 00:11:28,905 She's been told that she can change the future. 244 00:11:28,949 --> 00:11:30,646 But is that just an illusion? 245 00:11:30,690 --> 00:11:33,344 Are we basically in a movie that's already been shot? 246 00:11:33,388 --> 00:11:35,129 It's already rolled up in the can someplace? 247 00:11:35,172 --> 00:11:36,913 [ Laughs ] That could be! 248 00:11:36,957 --> 00:11:38,872 You can play it forward and backward as much as you want, 249 00:11:38,915 --> 00:11:40,264 but the ending never changes? 250 00:11:40,308 --> 00:11:43,441 I think that we have control over ourselves 251 00:11:43,485 --> 00:11:47,184 and I think that we have the power to create changes. 252 00:11:47,228 --> 00:11:49,317 Your son gave me a message to give to you. 253 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,275 "The future is not set. 254 00:11:51,319 --> 00:11:53,538 You must survive or I will never exist." 255 00:11:53,582 --> 00:11:55,279 The future is not set. 256 00:11:55,323 --> 00:11:57,542 You know, I mean that's -- that's kind of the line -- 257 00:11:57,586 --> 00:11:58,848 the future's not set. 258 00:11:58,892 --> 00:12:00,894 And it can be altered. 259 00:12:00,937 --> 00:12:04,375 Sarah: Should I tell you about your father? 260 00:12:04,419 --> 00:12:06,943 If you don't send Kyle, you can never be. 261 00:12:06,987 --> 00:12:11,165 The point that the film makes is that you can change history. 262 00:12:11,208 --> 00:12:13,123 You can escape the Terminator. 263 00:12:13,167 --> 00:12:16,083 But time travel is not about history 264 00:12:16,126 --> 00:12:17,780 and it's not about time travel, 265 00:12:17,824 --> 00:12:19,608 it's about accepting responsibility 266 00:12:19,651 --> 00:12:23,743 for all the possibilities in your own life. 267 00:12:23,786 --> 00:12:26,223 The idea of taking the wrong turn 268 00:12:26,267 --> 00:12:28,573 and making a correction later on, 269 00:12:28,617 --> 00:12:30,662 it's not a new idea in science fiction. 270 00:12:30,706 --> 00:12:33,361 It's not even a new idea in the movies. 271 00:12:36,016 --> 00:12:37,844 "Looper" is one where you're essentially trying 272 00:12:37,887 --> 00:12:39,236 to not change the world, 273 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,283 but change your world, change your life. 274 00:12:45,199 --> 00:12:47,810 Gleick: In "Looper," the time traveler is a hit man. 275 00:12:47,854 --> 00:12:50,421 Wouldn't you know? 276 00:12:50,465 --> 00:12:52,293 He's a hit man played both 277 00:12:52,336 --> 00:12:56,340 by Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Bruce Willis. 278 00:12:56,384 --> 00:12:58,125 Gordon-Levitt: When you agree to be a Looper, 279 00:12:58,168 --> 00:12:59,517 it's not a long-term job. 280 00:12:59,561 --> 00:13:01,041 There's not much of a future in it. 281 00:13:01,084 --> 00:13:04,522 One day, you know that your future self 282 00:13:04,566 --> 00:13:09,092 is going to show up in front of you... 283 00:13:09,136 --> 00:13:12,835 and you're going to have to shoot it. 284 00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:14,837 Newitz: That's gonna be his final hit. 285 00:13:14,881 --> 00:13:16,273 To kill himself. 286 00:13:16,317 --> 00:13:20,103 And he, and all of the other loopers, 287 00:13:20,147 --> 00:13:21,539 enter into this bargain. 288 00:13:21,583 --> 00:13:23,019 And you have to do it. 289 00:13:23,063 --> 00:13:25,543 If you don't do it it's a really big problem. 290 00:13:25,587 --> 00:13:28,546 [ Grunts ] 291 00:13:28,590 --> 00:13:32,159 Wolfe: The older one, the Bruce Willis character, 292 00:13:32,202 --> 00:13:33,987 knows the whole story. 293 00:13:34,030 --> 00:13:36,641 But the younger one is learning for the first time what's -- 294 00:13:36,685 --> 00:13:38,121 what's going on. 295 00:13:38,165 --> 00:13:40,123 And he naturally has a few questions. 296 00:13:40,167 --> 00:13:41,908 So do you know what's gonna happen? 297 00:13:41,951 --> 00:13:44,562 I don't wanna talk about time travel [no audio] 298 00:13:44,606 --> 00:13:45,868 because if we start talking about it 299 00:13:45,912 --> 00:13:47,304 then we're gonna be here all day 300 00:13:47,348 --> 00:13:50,090 talking about it, making diagrams with straws. 301 00:13:50,133 --> 00:13:52,875 Willis: Talking about time travel. 302 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:55,704 It makes you go crazy. 303 00:13:55,747 --> 00:13:58,663 And the option of going through a conversation like that 304 00:13:58,707 --> 00:14:03,451 with you at a younger age would make you even crazier. 305 00:14:03,494 --> 00:14:05,235 Move, [bleep]damnit. 306 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:07,368 Gordon-Levitt: Time travel is a device that 307 00:14:07,411 --> 00:14:09,849 story is using to tell a story about human nature 308 00:14:09,892 --> 00:14:12,982 and how humans treat each other and why. 309 00:14:15,463 --> 00:14:17,247 Move. 310 00:14:17,291 --> 00:14:20,250 ♪♪ 311 00:14:20,294 --> 00:14:21,686 [ Clock ticking ] 312 00:14:21,730 --> 00:14:23,558 Young Joe: Then I saw it. 313 00:14:23,601 --> 00:14:26,866 Gordon-Levitt: If "Looper" is a story about how violence 314 00:14:26,909 --> 00:14:29,694 perpetuates more violence, to me, the lesson is 315 00:14:29,738 --> 00:14:32,915 that you just create more problems and worse problems. 316 00:14:32,959 --> 00:14:36,919 Young Joe: I saw it... and the path was a circle. 317 00:14:36,963 --> 00:14:39,922 It's kind of about changing your own destiny. 318 00:14:39,966 --> 00:14:43,056 And it's kind of about how your destiny 319 00:14:43,099 --> 00:14:47,147 is always being shaped by people more powerful than yourself. 320 00:14:47,190 --> 00:14:52,979 And how do you really get out of a dark cycle? 321 00:14:53,022 --> 00:14:57,418 The movie is pointing out another way to end that cycle. 322 00:14:57,461 --> 00:15:00,116 Young Joe: So I changed it. 323 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,901 Newitz: It is an existential dilemma. 324 00:15:01,944 --> 00:15:05,817 A lot of time travel is very philosophical in that way. 325 00:15:05,861 --> 00:15:10,692 Joe finally takes control of his life by ending it. 326 00:15:13,086 --> 00:15:15,784 Why are we fascinated by time travel? 327 00:15:15,827 --> 00:15:17,917 Well, you know people very often ask me 328 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,527 why am I interested in time, I say, 329 00:15:19,570 --> 00:15:20,920 "Well, because I've always lived in it." 330 00:15:20,963 --> 00:15:22,965 -Yeah, right. -It's -- I'm -- we are. 331 00:15:23,009 --> 00:15:24,445 We feel very trapped in it. 332 00:15:24,488 --> 00:15:26,186 It's like, we try to hang on to the moment. 333 00:15:26,229 --> 00:15:28,710 We take photographs of everything, right? 334 00:15:28,753 --> 00:15:30,799 We desperately want to hang on to 335 00:15:30,842 --> 00:15:33,976 this reality and it recedes. 336 00:15:34,020 --> 00:15:35,847 What time travel allows us to do is to say, 337 00:15:35,891 --> 00:15:37,719 "Okay, but what if we could? 338 00:15:37,762 --> 00:15:39,764 What if we could preserve that moment. 339 00:15:39,808 --> 00:15:42,506 What if we could revisit that moment, genuinely?" 340 00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:44,030 Well, that's all science fiction is about -- What if? 341 00:15:44,073 --> 00:15:47,511 What if we could travel through space, 342 00:15:47,555 --> 00:15:50,427 what if we could travel through time? 343 00:15:50,471 --> 00:15:55,519 ♪♪ 344 00:15:55,563 --> 00:15:57,957 Lithgow: What makes "Interstellar" so compelling 345 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,351 is that the filmmakers devised these turns of plot 346 00:16:01,395 --> 00:16:05,181 to create a real classic family story 347 00:16:05,225 --> 00:16:07,967 with the deepest possible emotions. 348 00:16:08,010 --> 00:16:09,751 Yaszek: Fundamentally, "Interstellar" is about 349 00:16:09,794 --> 00:16:11,796 the human cost of time travel. 350 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,582 It's a deeply and intensely personal drama, 351 00:16:14,625 --> 00:16:16,366 and the story of what happens 352 00:16:16,410 --> 00:16:19,804 when a father is separated from his child. 353 00:16:19,848 --> 00:16:21,197 I said stay! 354 00:16:21,241 --> 00:16:23,243 No, I'm coming back. 355 00:16:23,286 --> 00:16:24,592 When? 356 00:16:24,635 --> 00:16:26,289 Will he go and save humanity 357 00:16:26,333 --> 00:16:28,813 or will he stay with his daughter instead? 358 00:16:28,857 --> 00:16:30,206 I mean, by the time I get back, we -- 359 00:16:30,250 --> 00:16:33,122 we might even be the same age. 360 00:16:33,166 --> 00:16:34,950 Ah, Murph. 361 00:16:34,994 --> 00:16:36,778 You have no idea when you're coming back? 362 00:16:39,955 --> 00:16:42,914 Lithgow: "Interstellar" projects us into a near future 363 00:16:42,958 --> 00:16:45,743 in which the world has gone through 364 00:16:45,787 --> 00:16:49,486 an enormous global catastrophe. 365 00:16:49,530 --> 00:16:51,445 Nelson's torching his whole crop. 366 00:16:51,488 --> 00:16:52,924 Blight? 367 00:16:52,968 --> 00:16:55,753 They're saying it's the last harvest for okra. 368 00:16:55,797 --> 00:16:57,059 Ever. 369 00:16:57,103 --> 00:16:59,975 I play Cooper's father-in-law. 370 00:17:00,019 --> 00:17:03,457 Matthew McConaughey plays Cooper, a former astronaut, 371 00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:06,242 who by several turns of plot, 372 00:17:06,286 --> 00:17:09,419 goes shooting into outer space. 373 00:17:09,463 --> 00:17:13,293 We've got to move to another planet or we'll not survive. 374 00:17:13,336 --> 00:17:16,078 ♪♪ 375 00:17:16,122 --> 00:17:18,689 Nicholson: "Interstellar" is an unusual time travel film 376 00:17:18,733 --> 00:17:21,040 because instead of building a literal time machine 377 00:17:21,083 --> 00:17:23,085 and having it be about an invention, 378 00:17:23,129 --> 00:17:25,435 it's about the way time works in space, 379 00:17:25,479 --> 00:17:27,437 the way that it speeds up or slows down 380 00:17:27,481 --> 00:17:32,268 depending on wormholes and gravitational pull. 381 00:17:32,312 --> 00:17:33,922 I think there are all sorts of different ways 382 00:17:33,965 --> 00:17:35,489 of looking at time travel, 383 00:17:35,532 --> 00:17:37,578 and when I came to do "Interstellar," 384 00:17:37,621 --> 00:17:41,364 which is not a time travel movie but has that element in it... 385 00:17:41,408 --> 00:17:43,932 It does fold time at the end. It does. 386 00:17:43,975 --> 00:17:46,500 You still approached it very rigorously. Yes. 387 00:17:46,543 --> 00:17:48,284 By going to some of the top experts. 388 00:17:48,328 --> 00:17:51,505 It was a really fascinating part of the process 389 00:17:51,548 --> 00:17:54,116 because Kip Thorne who was one of the original... 390 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,639 -Caltech I think. -Caltech. 391 00:17:55,683 --> 00:17:58,903 And Kip is one of the great minds in physics. 392 00:17:58,947 --> 00:18:02,429 What he taught me is that once you can grasp 393 00:18:02,472 --> 00:18:05,040 those physical concepts as concepts of astrophysics, 394 00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:08,913 they offer you this great launching pad 395 00:18:08,957 --> 00:18:10,393 for story possibilities 396 00:18:10,437 --> 00:18:12,134 to do with relativity and all these things. 397 00:18:12,178 --> 00:18:15,398 -Time dilation. -Exactly. 398 00:18:15,442 --> 00:18:17,400 Jonathan: There are two forms of time travel. 399 00:18:17,444 --> 00:18:19,663 There's the time travel that is probably impossible 400 00:18:19,707 --> 00:18:21,361 and that's going backwards. 401 00:18:21,404 --> 00:18:24,233 Then you have time travel, which is not only possible, 402 00:18:24,277 --> 00:18:27,932 but already a feature of our world, 403 00:18:27,976 --> 00:18:31,849 which is time dilation forwards. 404 00:18:31,893 --> 00:18:34,809 Gates: In science, there's this thing called the "twin paradox," 405 00:18:34,852 --> 00:18:37,159 which basically says that if my twin gets in a spaceship 406 00:18:37,203 --> 00:18:39,727 and goes traveling at, near to the speed of light, 407 00:18:39,770 --> 00:18:41,555 and then returns to Earth, 408 00:18:41,598 --> 00:18:43,513 when my twin gets back to Earth, my twin 409 00:18:43,557 --> 00:18:45,863 will be younger than I am. 410 00:18:45,907 --> 00:18:48,518 That's a form of time travel. 411 00:18:48,562 --> 00:18:52,174 And that is actually brilliantly illustrated 412 00:18:52,218 --> 00:18:53,697 in the movie "Interstellar." 413 00:18:53,741 --> 00:18:55,743 Go, go, go, go, go. 414 00:18:55,786 --> 00:19:00,182 Seven years per hour here. Let's make it count. 415 00:19:00,226 --> 00:19:03,446 "Interstellar" explored, in the most advanced way, 416 00:19:03,490 --> 00:19:05,448 how time travel really might work. 417 00:19:05,492 --> 00:19:07,624 When they go to the water planet, 418 00:19:07,668 --> 00:19:11,106 time works differently. 419 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:12,934 They come back to their ship, 420 00:19:12,977 --> 00:19:16,067 and the guy who stayed on the ship has grown old. 421 00:19:16,111 --> 00:19:18,853 I've waited years. 422 00:19:18,896 --> 00:19:22,422 How -- How many years? 423 00:19:22,465 --> 00:19:24,206 By now it must be... 424 00:19:24,250 --> 00:19:28,384 23 years, 4 months, 8 days. 425 00:19:28,428 --> 00:19:30,691 "Interstellar" suggests that time travel will always 426 00:19:30,734 --> 00:19:32,345 have a certain kind of tradeoff. 427 00:19:32,388 --> 00:19:35,217 So on the one hand, the scientist's ability 428 00:19:35,261 --> 00:19:39,526 to travel through space and time is essential to saving humanity, 429 00:19:39,569 --> 00:19:41,484 but the fact that he has to go on this journey 430 00:19:41,528 --> 00:19:43,834 in the first place, and to be separated from his daughter 431 00:19:43,878 --> 00:19:48,578 for most of her natural life, suggests the very real cost. 432 00:19:48,622 --> 00:19:52,191 Hey, Dad. 433 00:19:52,234 --> 00:19:53,931 Hey, Murph. 434 00:19:53,975 --> 00:19:55,933 You son of a bitch. 435 00:19:55,977 --> 00:20:02,113 There are moments when Matthew is allowed to see his daughter, 436 00:20:02,157 --> 00:20:04,159 by, uh, video stream. 437 00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:06,640 It's absolutely heartbreaking. 438 00:20:06,683 --> 00:20:08,990 You once told me that when you came back, 439 00:20:09,033 --> 00:20:12,646 we might be the same age. 440 00:20:12,689 --> 00:20:16,563 And today, I'm the age you were when you left. 441 00:20:18,652 --> 00:20:22,351 This might be a real good time for you to come back. 442 00:20:22,395 --> 00:20:25,136 People talk about, "My kid was born, and I blinked, 443 00:20:25,180 --> 00:20:27,878 and then I sent them off to college." 444 00:20:27,922 --> 00:20:30,011 The movie is literally about that. 445 00:20:32,318 --> 00:20:35,973 The sacrifices that go along with whatever it is 446 00:20:36,017 --> 00:20:38,367 that you've given your life to, 447 00:20:38,411 --> 00:20:41,718 at the expense of these moments with your family, 448 00:20:41,762 --> 00:20:45,722 which I think is the very poetic part of "Interstellar." 449 00:20:45,766 --> 00:20:49,987 So if "Interstellar" explores the human cost of time travel, 450 00:20:50,031 --> 00:20:53,121 "Primer" does something very similar, 451 00:20:53,164 --> 00:20:55,645 but it does so in a different way. 452 00:20:55,689 --> 00:20:57,778 We have two everyday engineers 453 00:20:57,821 --> 00:21:01,347 who accidentally create time travel. 454 00:21:01,390 --> 00:21:03,610 Anything? 455 00:21:03,653 --> 00:21:05,699 -Is this normal? -I don't know. 456 00:21:05,742 --> 00:21:08,963 Some people think it's the most credible, 457 00:21:09,006 --> 00:21:12,314 complicated, time travel movie. 458 00:21:12,358 --> 00:21:15,361 It's done on a very low budget. 459 00:21:15,404 --> 00:21:17,972 Do you know who directed that? 460 00:21:18,015 --> 00:21:19,321 Shane Carruth. 461 00:21:19,365 --> 00:21:21,149 He's in it, he's lovely in it. 462 00:21:21,192 --> 00:21:23,934 -Wow. -What's it doing? 463 00:21:23,978 --> 00:21:26,415 I don't know if I'm making it up... 464 00:21:26,459 --> 00:21:27,721 Carruth: These two guys, Abe and Aaron, 465 00:21:27,764 --> 00:21:29,984 keep investigating this phenomenon. 466 00:21:30,027 --> 00:21:33,117 There's this weird anomaly that shows up. 467 00:21:35,163 --> 00:21:37,208 What they finally realize is that they have 468 00:21:37,252 --> 00:21:39,515 created a space 469 00:21:39,559 --> 00:21:42,562 that you can travel through time in. 470 00:21:42,605 --> 00:21:45,956 So they take this, and create a bigger box, 471 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,004 big enough for a human to be in. 472 00:21:50,047 --> 00:21:52,223 Yaszek: When they do this, they use it for really mundane 473 00:21:52,267 --> 00:21:53,877 and very human purposes. 474 00:21:53,921 --> 00:21:56,924 One uses it to play the stock market. 475 00:21:56,967 --> 00:21:59,230 And time travel ends up pulling the friends apart. 476 00:21:59,274 --> 00:22:00,667 I just want to know what box you used. 477 00:22:00,710 --> 00:22:02,364 You built the one for you, right? Just the one? 478 00:22:02,408 --> 00:22:03,844 Yeah. How many do you think I made? 479 00:22:03,887 --> 00:22:05,498 They are suspicious of each other 480 00:22:05,541 --> 00:22:06,934 and they're also deceiving each other 481 00:22:06,977 --> 00:22:09,284 because something about going back in time 482 00:22:09,328 --> 00:22:10,546 affects their brain, 483 00:22:10,590 --> 00:22:13,332 and they do start losing their minds. 484 00:22:16,291 --> 00:22:18,728 Yaszek: Like many other movies, "Primer" does indeed suggest 485 00:22:18,772 --> 00:22:20,687 that there is a cost to time travel, 486 00:22:20,730 --> 00:22:23,603 and in this case the cost is both emotional and physical. 487 00:22:23,646 --> 00:22:26,649 What's on your hand? Are you bleeding? 488 00:22:26,693 --> 00:22:29,217 Carruth: So when we start seeing our characters show up, 489 00:22:29,260 --> 00:22:30,697 and they've got, you know, bloody ears, 490 00:22:30,740 --> 00:22:32,786 and they lose the ability to write, 491 00:22:32,829 --> 00:22:35,658 their right-handed writing looks like their left-handed writing, 492 00:22:35,702 --> 00:22:37,747 there's something going on mentally that 493 00:22:37,791 --> 00:22:40,228 they are paying the price with. 494 00:22:43,797 --> 00:22:46,800 The time-travel story, it's a kind of Faustian tale. 495 00:22:46,843 --> 00:22:48,932 The bargain with the devil. 496 00:22:48,976 --> 00:22:50,586 Everything is a barter. 497 00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:52,806 If you sell your soul to the devil, 498 00:22:52,849 --> 00:22:56,418 you can have everything you ever dreamed of. 499 00:22:56,462 --> 00:22:59,943 But eventually you pay the piper. 500 00:23:02,424 --> 00:23:04,687 Who doesn't wonder about the past? 501 00:23:04,731 --> 00:23:06,341 Who doesn't wonder about the future? 502 00:23:06,385 --> 00:23:08,648 How many times has that game been played, you know, 503 00:23:08,691 --> 00:23:11,912 if you could go back in time, where would you go? 504 00:23:11,955 --> 00:23:15,306 Gleick: Can you remember the first time you ever heard of time travel? 505 00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:17,787 "I think ancient Greeks must have had time travel. 506 00:23:17,831 --> 00:23:20,268 Isn't there some time travel thing in Shakespeare?" 507 00:23:20,311 --> 00:23:22,313 Right? But there isn't. 508 00:23:22,357 --> 00:23:27,144 Time travel is new. Time travel is a new idea. 509 00:23:27,188 --> 00:23:31,105 Before H.G. Wells, it didn't exist. 510 00:23:33,586 --> 00:23:37,024 Wolfe: What Wells gave the time travel story was the machine. 511 00:23:37,067 --> 00:23:38,765 The idea that somebody could build a machine 512 00:23:38,808 --> 00:23:42,203 that would do for time what rocket ships would do for space. 513 00:23:42,246 --> 00:23:44,466 And the idea was just irresistible. 514 00:23:44,510 --> 00:23:48,644 It's literally true that the words "time" and "travel" 515 00:23:48,688 --> 00:23:53,475 in English were never used together before H.G. Wells 516 00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:56,696 invented this character that he called... 517 00:23:56,739 --> 00:23:58,915 The Time Traveller. 518 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,810 My grandfather, H.G. Wells, wrote that in 1895. 519 00:24:25,855 --> 00:24:30,512 This is a first edition of "The Time Machine." 520 00:24:30,556 --> 00:24:33,167 Firstly, he was writing anything he could sell. 521 00:24:33,210 --> 00:24:34,821 The novels that we now know, 522 00:24:34,864 --> 00:24:36,736 which are these great science-fiction novels, 523 00:24:36,779 --> 00:24:39,695 came after he'd spent years writing as a journalist, 524 00:24:39,739 --> 00:24:43,133 but there was an enormous amount of kind of revolutionary science 525 00:24:43,177 --> 00:24:44,744 going on at the time. 526 00:24:44,787 --> 00:24:47,877 Gleick: Darwin was talking about the history of human life 527 00:24:47,921 --> 00:24:52,839 in terms of millions and billions of years. 528 00:24:52,882 --> 00:24:55,319 Archaeologists were doing the same thing. 529 00:24:55,363 --> 00:25:01,238 Humanity was developing a longer view of time than ever before. 530 00:25:01,282 --> 00:25:02,544 When I speak of time, gentlemen, 531 00:25:02,588 --> 00:25:05,547 I'm referring to the fourth dimension. 532 00:25:05,591 --> 00:25:07,506 Weir: H.G. Wells, "The Time Machine," 533 00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:10,117 his character goes forward in time, 534 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,685 no problem there. 535 00:25:12,728 --> 00:25:16,732 Going back in time -- entirely different thing. 536 00:25:16,776 --> 00:25:18,560 If you go back in time, then you start running 537 00:25:18,604 --> 00:25:21,041 into all sorts of issues with causality. 538 00:25:21,084 --> 00:25:24,740 Gleick: And that's the view that's expressed in the phrase, 539 00:25:24,784 --> 00:25:26,525 the butterfly effect. 540 00:25:26,568 --> 00:25:30,746 A tiny change, a tiny perturbation in a complex system 541 00:25:30,790 --> 00:25:34,750 can have enormous and unpredictable consequences 542 00:25:34,794 --> 00:25:36,578 in a fairly short time. 543 00:25:36,622 --> 00:25:38,580 And it starts with 544 00:25:38,624 --> 00:25:41,235 "A Sound of Thunder" by Ray Bradbury. 545 00:25:43,803 --> 00:25:45,674 Wolfe: The basic idea of the story is that you can 546 00:25:45,718 --> 00:25:47,415 travel back in time, but you're going to be 547 00:25:47,458 --> 00:25:50,679 on this suspended platform and you can shoot a dinosaur 548 00:25:50,723 --> 00:25:52,507 but it has to be one that was going to die anyway, 549 00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:55,292 so that you don't change anything in the future. 550 00:25:55,336 --> 00:25:59,601 And this fairly arrogant game hunter steps off 551 00:25:59,645 --> 00:26:03,344 and kills a butterfly... 552 00:26:03,387 --> 00:26:05,215 And comes back and his future has turned into 553 00:26:05,259 --> 00:26:08,001 this kind of dystopian version of his own world 554 00:26:08,044 --> 00:26:11,395 that he barely recognizes. 555 00:26:11,439 --> 00:26:13,963 Lethem: Bradbury creates these deep metaphors 556 00:26:14,007 --> 00:26:15,791 that give shape to a lot of the way 557 00:26:15,835 --> 00:26:17,576 I think people have subsequently 558 00:26:17,619 --> 00:26:19,534 understood ideas like time travel. 559 00:26:19,578 --> 00:26:23,320 Oh, if you change a butterfly in the past, 560 00:26:23,364 --> 00:26:26,672 the entire future might be different. 561 00:26:26,715 --> 00:26:29,152 Gleick: When writers of time travel stories 562 00:26:29,196 --> 00:26:30,806 consider the logical implications 563 00:26:30,850 --> 00:26:32,286 of everything that happens, 564 00:26:32,329 --> 00:26:36,769 they get tied up in these paradoxes. 565 00:26:36,812 --> 00:26:40,642 Lethem: Robert Heinlein is the first writer to get the pleasure 566 00:26:40,686 --> 00:26:43,123 and peculiarity of time travel paradoxes 567 00:26:43,166 --> 00:26:45,995 and how they can be exploited again and again and again. 568 00:26:46,039 --> 00:26:48,607 He sees that the problem with time travel stories 569 00:26:48,650 --> 00:26:51,348 isn't a problem, it's an opportunity. 570 00:26:51,392 --> 00:26:53,481 Wolfe: He wrote stories like "All You Zombies," 571 00:26:53,524 --> 00:26:55,701 which has nothing to do with zombies, by the way, 572 00:26:55,744 --> 00:27:00,009 but it has to do with probably the most completely confusing 573 00:27:00,053 --> 00:27:04,797 and delightful science fiction time paradox story there is, 574 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,495 which was made into the film "Predestination." 575 00:27:07,538 --> 00:27:10,019 I can do this, I can change my past. 576 00:27:10,063 --> 00:27:12,631 Yes, you can. 577 00:27:12,674 --> 00:27:15,677 Have you ever thought about changing yours? 578 00:27:15,721 --> 00:27:17,374 I never deviate from the mission. 579 00:27:17,418 --> 00:27:21,161 Predestination is about an intersex time traveler 580 00:27:21,204 --> 00:27:24,207 who starts life as a woman -- 581 00:27:24,251 --> 00:27:27,689 is forced into gender reassignment, becomes a man. 582 00:27:27,733 --> 00:27:31,040 That man then travels back in time, 583 00:27:31,084 --> 00:27:34,914 falls in love with his female self, 584 00:27:34,957 --> 00:27:37,090 that female self then has a child 585 00:27:37,133 --> 00:27:40,006 which ends up being the creation of themselves. 586 00:27:40,049 --> 00:27:42,704 So it's an intersex time-traveling 587 00:27:42,748 --> 00:27:47,317 incest love story. 588 00:27:47,361 --> 00:27:50,233 Gleick: And in fact "Playboy" magazine rejected the story 589 00:27:50,277 --> 00:27:53,280 because all the sex made the editor queasy, 590 00:27:53,323 --> 00:27:55,412 the editor of "Playboy." 591 00:27:55,456 --> 00:27:57,937 Peter: Well, I think it had to do with the idea of having sex 592 00:27:57,980 --> 00:28:00,069 with yourself to create yourself, 593 00:28:00,113 --> 00:28:01,505 which is kind of crazy 594 00:28:01,549 --> 00:28:03,377 that "Playboy" would have an issue 595 00:28:03,420 --> 00:28:04,770 with something like that. 596 00:28:04,813 --> 00:28:07,468 But it was 1959. 597 00:28:10,123 --> 00:28:11,690 Well, it's the age-old question -- 598 00:28:11,733 --> 00:28:14,083 which came first the chicken or the egg? 599 00:28:14,127 --> 00:28:15,606 Yeah. We say the rooster. 600 00:28:15,650 --> 00:28:17,913 Some things are predestined, right? 601 00:28:17,957 --> 00:28:20,350 I made you who you are, you made me who I am, 602 00:28:20,394 --> 00:28:21,743 it's a paradox, right? 603 00:28:21,787 --> 00:28:25,007 But it can be para-doctored! [ Laughs ] 604 00:28:25,051 --> 00:28:28,402 Rutherford: We've had time travel in science fiction movies 605 00:28:28,445 --> 00:28:32,101 for most of the 20th century, so I guess the question is why? 606 00:28:32,145 --> 00:28:35,452 Well, because what you're doing is exploring possible futures. 607 00:28:35,496 --> 00:28:37,846 You're exploring the decisions that we make now. 608 00:28:37,890 --> 00:28:41,676 It enables us to imagine what the future will be like 609 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,548 or what the past would be like if we interacted with it. 610 00:28:44,592 --> 00:28:48,509 It's incredibly important way of exploring potential futures. 611 00:28:48,552 --> 00:28:51,555 Man: The future is now. 612 00:28:54,776 --> 00:28:57,561 Singer: So many science fiction movies are about these brilliant 613 00:28:57,605 --> 00:29:03,350 scientists and astrophysicists, biologists. 614 00:29:03,393 --> 00:29:06,483 And "Bill And Ted's Excellent Adventure" is not. 615 00:29:06,527 --> 00:29:08,659 No way! 616 00:29:08,703 --> 00:29:10,270 Yes, way Ted! 617 00:29:10,313 --> 00:29:11,619 Both: Whoa. 618 00:29:11,662 --> 00:29:14,491 In a way, "Bill & Ted" becomes important 619 00:29:14,535 --> 00:29:17,277 just because it's so different from everything else. 620 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,409 It makes you think what is wrong with us, 621 00:29:19,453 --> 00:29:21,760 the people writing these films, if we can't imagine 622 00:29:21,803 --> 00:29:23,892 the future as anything but awful? 623 00:29:23,936 --> 00:29:26,286 Two dudes can be the heroes, man. 624 00:29:26,329 --> 00:29:27,591 Ready Ted? 625 00:29:27,635 --> 00:29:29,332 Ready Bill? 626 00:29:29,376 --> 00:29:31,900 Let's go back into history! 627 00:29:31,944 --> 00:29:36,818 Alex Winter and I became Bill and Ted. 628 00:29:36,862 --> 00:29:41,083 Bill S. Preston, Esquire, Ted Theodore Logan. 629 00:29:41,127 --> 00:29:43,390 Both: Excellent! 630 00:29:43,433 --> 00:29:45,174 Bill and Ted are idiots. 631 00:29:45,218 --> 00:29:47,786 And our teacher tells us that if we don't pass our history exam 632 00:29:47,829 --> 00:29:49,831 we're going to fail out of school. 633 00:29:49,875 --> 00:29:51,398 The lady in that car over there said 634 00:29:51,441 --> 00:29:55,010 that Marco Polo was in the year 1275. 635 00:29:55,054 --> 00:29:57,447 So it's not just a water sport. I knew it. 636 00:29:57,491 --> 00:30:00,668 If they fail Ted's dad is going to send him to military school, 637 00:30:00,711 --> 00:30:02,148 and if they're separated their band 638 00:30:02,191 --> 00:30:05,412 will never form and save the world. 639 00:30:06,979 --> 00:30:08,763 Someone from the future shows up and says, 640 00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:10,112 "We're going to help you." 641 00:30:10,156 --> 00:30:12,854 Do you know when the Mongols ruled China? 642 00:30:12,898 --> 00:30:15,248 Perhaps we can ask them. 643 00:30:17,467 --> 00:30:19,643 Reeves: Bill and Ted of course can accept everything. 644 00:30:19,687 --> 00:30:22,342 Dudes, you guys are going to go back in time! 645 00:30:22,385 --> 00:30:24,039 -Yeah! -They're kind of like 646 00:30:24,083 --> 00:30:29,828 these modern fools, of kind of an eternal optimism. 647 00:30:29,871 --> 00:30:32,091 Solomon: We had a funny moment, Chris Matheson and I, 648 00:30:32,134 --> 00:30:34,745 when we wrote it we were not involved 649 00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:36,225 in the casting of the film, 650 00:30:36,269 --> 00:30:40,055 and didn't know who would play Bill and Ted. 651 00:30:40,099 --> 00:30:42,101 We had flown to Arizona where we were shooting the movie 652 00:30:42,144 --> 00:30:44,799 and we were at a McDonald's in line, 653 00:30:44,843 --> 00:30:46,888 and we saw a couple of kids in front of us 654 00:30:46,932 --> 00:30:48,759 and goofing off and we were like, 655 00:30:48,803 --> 00:30:50,196 "Those are the guys, 656 00:30:50,239 --> 00:30:52,067 that's who should be playing Bill and Ted!" 657 00:30:52,111 --> 00:30:55,723 And later on that day we met Keanu and Alex 658 00:30:55,766 --> 00:30:57,420 and those were the guys that were in front of us 659 00:30:57,464 --> 00:31:01,772 at McDonald's and we were like, "That's perfect." 660 00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:03,774 Winter: And you know of course we are bequeathed 661 00:31:03,818 --> 00:31:06,603 a time traveling phone booth by George Carlin 662 00:31:06,647 --> 00:31:09,911 and set upon a mission through spacetime. 663 00:31:09,955 --> 00:31:12,000 We collect all the various characters from history 664 00:31:12,044 --> 00:31:13,697 because that would be the most awesome report 665 00:31:13,741 --> 00:31:15,569 you could have would be to actually have the real 666 00:31:15,612 --> 00:31:17,701 people there. 667 00:31:17,745 --> 00:31:19,616 We love toying with all these paradoxes. 668 00:31:19,660 --> 00:31:23,272 And one of my favorite parts of the "Bill & Ted" movie 669 00:31:23,316 --> 00:31:26,101 is when all the historical figures are in jail 670 00:31:26,145 --> 00:31:27,450 and they can't get out. 671 00:31:27,494 --> 00:31:29,148 Can we get your dad's keys? 672 00:31:29,191 --> 00:31:31,541 Could steal 'em!Good thinking dude! 673 00:31:31,585 --> 00:31:34,327 After the report we'll time travel back to two days ago, 674 00:31:34,370 --> 00:31:38,679 steal your dad's keys and leave them here. 675 00:31:38,722 --> 00:31:39,985 See?! 676 00:31:40,028 --> 00:31:41,595 -Whoa! -Yeah! 677 00:31:41,638 --> 00:31:43,423 So after the report we can't forget to do this 678 00:31:43,466 --> 00:31:44,990 otherwise it won't happen. 679 00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:47,949 Ted is like connecting to his future self 680 00:31:47,993 --> 00:31:49,559 through his present self to know 681 00:31:49,603 --> 00:31:51,474 where his future self will want to hide the keys 682 00:31:51,518 --> 00:31:54,477 because the future self already knows what the past self did, 683 00:31:54,521 --> 00:31:57,437 but the past self doesn't know what the future self did, 684 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,352 but he knows the character. 685 00:31:59,395 --> 00:32:00,875 Come on, Ted. 686 00:32:00,919 --> 00:32:03,312 We've got some historical figures to rescue. 687 00:32:03,356 --> 00:32:05,575 Rutherford: And it perfectly encapsulates the absurdity 688 00:32:05,619 --> 00:32:07,360 of the time travel paradox. 689 00:32:07,403 --> 00:32:09,318 You just have to remind yourself to have done them in the past 690 00:32:09,362 --> 00:32:10,667 and they will be done in the future. 691 00:32:10,711 --> 00:32:13,192 And I just thought that was terrific. 692 00:32:13,235 --> 00:32:17,152 It just says, yeah, don't worry about it. 693 00:32:17,196 --> 00:32:19,894 It's pretty fascinating honestly how rare 694 00:32:19,938 --> 00:32:21,200 "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure" 695 00:32:21,243 --> 00:32:23,680 is in the grand history of sci-fi films. 696 00:32:23,724 --> 00:32:27,597 To have a sci-fi film that says, "Eh! This is just fun!" 697 00:32:27,641 --> 00:32:30,339 is an incredible strange relief. 698 00:32:30,383 --> 00:32:32,515 Both: No way! 699 00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:34,343 Crowe: It's not the only science fiction film 700 00:32:34,387 --> 00:32:36,084 to have fun with time travel. 701 00:32:36,128 --> 00:32:39,305 In fact, this comedy was the first to popularize 702 00:32:39,348 --> 00:32:43,265 a particular form of time travel called the time loop. 703 00:32:43,309 --> 00:32:48,357 Rita, I'm re-living the same day over and over. 704 00:32:48,401 --> 00:32:50,620 Groundhog Day. Today. 705 00:32:50,664 --> 00:32:53,101 Yaszek: "Groundhog Day" uses the device of a time loop 706 00:32:53,145 --> 00:32:56,061 as a way to explore ways you need to work on yourself 707 00:32:56,104 --> 00:32:58,411 before you can grow up and have meaningful 708 00:32:58,454 --> 00:33:01,327 relationships with other people. 709 00:33:01,370 --> 00:33:03,851 Rubin: When I was first brainstorming ideas, 710 00:33:03,894 --> 00:33:06,027 I actually wrote on the little index card, 711 00:33:06,071 --> 00:33:07,681 "time machine." 712 00:33:07,724 --> 00:33:10,640 But I didn't really know what was going to be involved 713 00:33:10,684 --> 00:33:12,903 or how it was going to work. 714 00:33:12,947 --> 00:33:16,124 Phil? Phil?! Phil Connors? 715 00:33:16,168 --> 00:33:17,691 Phil Connors, I thought that was you. 716 00:33:17,734 --> 00:33:19,301 Hey, how are you? 717 00:33:19,345 --> 00:33:21,912 I just thought, "Okay, whatever it is the rule is, 718 00:33:21,956 --> 00:33:24,132 he can remember, but nobody else can remember. 719 00:33:24,176 --> 00:33:27,527 So for them it's just the same day. 720 00:33:27,570 --> 00:33:32,401 And for him it's part of a long, long, long repetition of days." 721 00:33:32,445 --> 00:33:34,621 Yaszek: And the audience learns to expect that, 722 00:33:34,664 --> 00:33:37,928 and can begin to sort of map the day along with the character 723 00:33:37,972 --> 00:33:39,974 and see if they can figure out 724 00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:44,587 how to get out of this time loop before he does. 725 00:33:44,631 --> 00:33:47,199 Lethem: The real time travel machine, is your brain. 726 00:33:47,242 --> 00:33:49,853 In here, we're constantly recoiling 727 00:33:49,897 --> 00:33:53,944 through different versions of ourselves, memories, 728 00:33:53,988 --> 00:33:56,164 and daydreams, alternate paths, 729 00:33:56,208 --> 00:33:58,166 where we might end up somewhere different. 730 00:33:58,210 --> 00:34:00,647 Do you ever have déjà vu, Mrs. Lancaster? 731 00:34:00,690 --> 00:34:02,910 I don't think so, but I could check with the kitchen? 732 00:34:02,953 --> 00:34:06,914 And this is what the time travel story crystallizes for us. 733 00:34:06,957 --> 00:34:08,698 It's a model of consciousness, 734 00:34:08,742 --> 00:34:12,093 which is constantly reeling with ultimate freedom through time, 735 00:34:12,137 --> 00:34:16,793 and then finding itself stuck, once again, in the real world. 736 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,275 Nicholson: In the first stretch of "Groundhog Day," 737 00:34:20,319 --> 00:34:22,799 Bill Murray knows everything that's gonna happen to him, 738 00:34:22,843 --> 00:34:25,106 he can make that work to his advantage. 739 00:34:25,150 --> 00:34:27,456 Rubin: And he does it in the way an adolescent would, 740 00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:31,808 just having fun and also becoming kind of sociopathic. 741 00:34:31,852 --> 00:34:33,288 You don't really care about the other people. 742 00:34:33,332 --> 00:34:35,812 They are objects in your life. 743 00:34:35,856 --> 00:34:37,988 And then it moves on to a depression 744 00:34:38,032 --> 00:34:40,469 where he finally decides to kill himself. 745 00:34:40,513 --> 00:34:45,126 And he finds that he cannot even do that. 746 00:34:45,170 --> 00:34:46,562 This is Tom, he worked in the coal mine 747 00:34:46,606 --> 00:34:47,824 until they closed it down. 748 00:34:47,868 --> 00:34:49,826 This is where he, for the first time 749 00:34:49,870 --> 00:34:52,481 starts to notice other people, 750 00:34:52,525 --> 00:34:55,658 and realizes that they have lives, too, 751 00:34:55,702 --> 00:34:57,791 and that he's part of a community 752 00:34:57,834 --> 00:35:00,010 and by seeing himself differently, 753 00:35:00,054 --> 00:35:03,231 he actually opens up a whole new world to himself. 754 00:35:03,275 --> 00:35:07,279 Hello, father, let's get you someplace warm. 755 00:35:07,322 --> 00:35:10,717 The wonderful thing about being stuck in a time loop, 756 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,849 it makes us look at our lives in a fresh way 757 00:35:12,893 --> 00:35:14,938 which is one of the great things that movies can do, 758 00:35:14,982 --> 00:35:16,331 and especially science fiction, 759 00:35:16,375 --> 00:35:19,029 because it can so immediately place you 760 00:35:19,073 --> 00:35:22,163 in a different time and place. 761 00:35:22,207 --> 00:35:24,165 Nicholson: Maybe we all do need a time travel movie 762 00:35:24,209 --> 00:35:25,688 to make us a better version of ourselves, 763 00:35:25,732 --> 00:35:29,257 but I hope that we're not stuck as long as he is. 764 00:35:29,301 --> 00:35:32,304 Anything different is good. 765 00:35:34,306 --> 00:35:35,959 My name is Doctor Who. 766 00:35:36,003 --> 00:35:37,178 It's not, is it? 767 00:35:37,222 --> 00:35:38,701 I like it. 768 00:35:38,745 --> 00:35:40,312 You don't know it yet. 769 00:35:40,355 --> 00:35:43,576 But in a short time, you will trust me with your life. 770 00:35:43,619 --> 00:35:48,058 Rutherford: "Doctor Who" is a very British, slightly eccentric 771 00:35:48,102 --> 00:35:49,799 extraordinary series 772 00:35:49,843 --> 00:35:52,019 that's been running for more than 50 years now. 773 00:35:52,062 --> 00:35:56,763 And it involves a charming, peculiar Time Lord. 774 00:35:56,806 --> 00:36:01,202 We're time travelers. We tread softly. 775 00:36:01,246 --> 00:36:03,813 He's an alien who has come down to protect us 776 00:36:03,857 --> 00:36:06,773 from the rest of the universe by traveling through time 777 00:36:06,816 --> 00:36:09,428 and by interacting with real historical events 778 00:36:09,471 --> 00:36:11,473 in both the past and the future. 779 00:36:11,517 --> 00:36:13,083 We're unarmed. 780 00:36:13,127 --> 00:36:16,391 You wouldn't open fire on an unarmed civilians would you? 781 00:36:16,435 --> 00:36:19,264 It wouldn't be the first time. 782 00:36:19,307 --> 00:36:21,222 Chuggles, now! 783 00:36:21,266 --> 00:36:23,659 [ Electricity crackling ] 784 00:36:23,703 --> 00:36:26,575 Oh, I love "Doctor Who." 785 00:36:26,619 --> 00:36:29,230 Over the past 50 years there have been a total 786 00:36:29,274 --> 00:36:30,710 of 12 Doctor Whos. 787 00:36:30,753 --> 00:36:33,365 Each new performer brings his own thing to it. 788 00:36:33,408 --> 00:36:35,845 I've seen literally every episode of "Doctor Who" 789 00:36:35,889 --> 00:36:38,935 that's ever been made from "An Unearthly Child," 790 00:36:38,979 --> 00:36:40,937 which was made in 1963, 791 00:36:40,981 --> 00:36:45,551 all the way up to the current Peter Capaldi Doctor Whos. 792 00:36:45,594 --> 00:36:48,815 You are the dark side, you are an enemy of the Daleks. 793 00:36:48,858 --> 00:36:50,251 Oh, yes, I am. 794 00:36:50,295 --> 00:36:52,993 Exterminate! 795 00:36:53,036 --> 00:36:54,516 Capaldi: I grew up with the show. 796 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,041 I lived in a tenement in Glasgow in Scotland, 797 00:36:58,085 --> 00:37:01,958 and through these flickering little blue images 798 00:37:02,002 --> 00:37:06,311 I'd be taken to other planets with strange creatures 799 00:37:06,354 --> 00:37:09,096 with wonderful imaginative designs. 800 00:37:09,139 --> 00:37:12,230 Do you think you're the first to try and kill me? 801 00:37:12,273 --> 00:37:15,537 And also there has always been a kind of B-movie element 802 00:37:15,581 --> 00:37:18,975 to it, which I've always loved. 803 00:37:19,019 --> 00:37:21,935 Is everything out here evil?Hardly anything is evil. 804 00:37:21,978 --> 00:37:23,589 But most things are hungry. 805 00:37:23,632 --> 00:37:25,808 Hunger looks very like evil from the wrong end of the cutlery 806 00:37:25,852 --> 00:37:28,985 or do you think that your bacon sandwich loves you back? 807 00:37:29,029 --> 00:37:31,161 Wolfe: I think one of the things that's appealing 808 00:37:31,205 --> 00:37:34,077 about "Doctor Who," is there's a tradition of English humor 809 00:37:34,121 --> 00:37:37,124 which suggests that the future is all a joke. 810 00:37:37,167 --> 00:37:38,604 He's a Time Lord, yes. 811 00:37:38,647 --> 00:37:40,301 And he can travel back and forth in time, 812 00:37:40,345 --> 00:37:42,390 and he does it in absurd ways. 813 00:37:42,434 --> 00:37:46,916 Time And Relative Dimension In Space. 814 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,398 TARDIS for short. 815 00:37:50,442 --> 00:37:52,400 Capaldi: The Doctor's time machine, the TARDIS, 816 00:37:52,444 --> 00:37:56,448 is one of the best ever because it invokes 817 00:37:56,491 --> 00:37:59,320 the playing with physics 818 00:37:59,364 --> 00:38:02,497 that is going to be necessary to travel through time and space 819 00:38:02,541 --> 00:38:05,674 because his machine is bigger on the inside 820 00:38:05,718 --> 00:38:07,546 than it is on the outside. 821 00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:10,505 So your box can move. 822 00:38:10,549 --> 00:38:12,725 We can go anywhere we like. 823 00:38:12,768 --> 00:38:14,640 Newitz: He always has a human companion. 824 00:38:14,683 --> 00:38:16,032 And he brings that companion 825 00:38:16,076 --> 00:38:17,817 along with him on his adventures. 826 00:38:17,860 --> 00:38:20,602 -Where are we? -The end of the road. 827 00:38:20,646 --> 00:38:22,212 The last planet. 828 00:38:22,256 --> 00:38:25,433 He seems to have a special place in his heart for humans. 829 00:38:25,477 --> 00:38:28,306 Picking individual ordinary people 830 00:38:28,349 --> 00:38:31,439 and showing them all of time and space 831 00:38:31,483 --> 00:38:34,486 and giving them a broader view on life. 832 00:38:34,529 --> 00:38:36,836 Gerrold: He's the Doctor. What do doctors do? 833 00:38:36,879 --> 00:38:39,882 They heal sick situations, sick people. 834 00:38:39,926 --> 00:38:41,623 But why do you have to destroy? 835 00:38:41,667 --> 00:38:42,885 Can't you use your brains? 836 00:38:42,929 --> 00:38:45,540 Only one race can survive. 837 00:38:45,584 --> 00:38:49,065 This senseless evil killing. 838 00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:52,939 The first actor, the wonderful William Hartnell, became ill 839 00:38:52,982 --> 00:38:54,810 and couldn't carry on with the show. 840 00:38:54,854 --> 00:38:57,422 So they came up with this rather brilliant idea, 841 00:38:57,465 --> 00:39:03,689 which is that the Doctor has the ability to reconstitute himself. 842 00:39:03,732 --> 00:39:10,522 ♪♪ 843 00:39:10,565 --> 00:39:13,046 This has allowed this show to last 844 00:39:13,089 --> 00:39:17,442 because we change the lead actor every three or four years, 845 00:39:17,485 --> 00:39:21,402 which no other show does. 846 00:39:21,446 --> 00:39:25,798 It has all these other levels of philosophical 847 00:39:25,841 --> 00:39:28,670 and reflective nature 848 00:39:28,714 --> 00:39:33,109 that make it very, very rich. 849 00:39:33,153 --> 00:39:35,198 [ Wheezing ] 850 00:39:35,242 --> 00:39:36,635 Oh! 851 00:39:36,678 --> 00:39:39,246 People always ask me what is it about the show 852 00:39:39,289 --> 00:39:41,944 that appeals so broadly? 853 00:39:41,988 --> 00:39:44,120 The answer I would like to give 854 00:39:44,164 --> 00:39:46,209 and which I'm discouraged from giving, 855 00:39:46,253 --> 00:39:51,084 because it is not useful in the promotion of a brand, 856 00:39:51,127 --> 00:39:53,782 is that it's about death. 857 00:39:53,826 --> 00:39:58,396 And it has a very, very powerful death motif in it. 858 00:39:58,439 --> 00:40:01,137 which is that the central character dies. 859 00:40:01,181 --> 00:40:04,489 Doctor, let it go. 860 00:40:07,448 --> 00:40:09,450 Time enough. 861 00:40:09,494 --> 00:40:13,106 And I think that is one of its most potent mysteries. 862 00:40:13,149 --> 00:40:14,977 Because somewhere in that, 863 00:40:15,021 --> 00:40:17,980 people see that that's what happens in life. 864 00:40:18,024 --> 00:40:23,551 You have loved ones, and then they go, 865 00:40:23,595 --> 00:40:26,641 but you must carry on. 866 00:40:26,685 --> 00:40:30,210 Gleick: There are a lot of ways in which time travel stories 867 00:40:30,253 --> 00:40:33,822 sneakily are about eluding death. 868 00:40:33,866 --> 00:40:35,650 Time is what kills us, after all. 869 00:40:35,694 --> 00:40:38,566 Time is a bastard. 870 00:40:38,610 --> 00:40:44,311 ♪♪ 871 00:40:44,354 --> 00:40:47,009 There's something that speaks to our souls about time travel 872 00:40:47,053 --> 00:40:51,057 where there's a fatalism involved 873 00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:52,711 that is reassuring somehow. 874 00:40:52,754 --> 00:40:54,626 Right. Because it tells you that the mistakes 875 00:40:54,669 --> 00:40:56,497 were always gonna happen.Yeah. 876 00:40:56,541 --> 00:40:58,281 I mean, one of the fascinating things -- 877 00:40:58,325 --> 00:41:00,414 I was explaining to my kids the other day -- 878 00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:02,503 that if you look at the idea of a telescope. 879 00:41:02,547 --> 00:41:04,113 Telescope is a way of looking back in time, 880 00:41:04,157 --> 00:41:05,506 and not just space.It's a time machine. 881 00:41:05,550 --> 00:41:06,942 It's a time machine. 882 00:41:06,986 --> 00:41:08,509 And you look at the smallest star, the further away, 883 00:41:08,553 --> 00:41:10,250 the further back in time you're looking. 884 00:41:10,293 --> 00:41:12,382 And theoretically you could make more 885 00:41:12,426 --> 00:41:13,906 and more powerful telescopes, 886 00:41:13,949 --> 00:41:16,082 and you can look further and further back in time. 887 00:41:16,125 --> 00:41:18,388 It's just a mind-boggling concept. 888 00:41:18,432 --> 00:41:20,260 Theoretically the sun could have gone out 889 00:41:20,303 --> 00:41:22,697 seven and a half minutes ago and we just don't know yet 890 00:41:22,741 --> 00:41:24,351 'cause it takes light a while to get here. 891 00:41:24,394 --> 00:41:26,527 Exactly. Let's hope not. 892 00:41:26,571 --> 00:41:28,877 But that idea of looking back in time 893 00:41:28,921 --> 00:41:30,313 as you look out into the world, 894 00:41:30,357 --> 00:41:32,359 the fact that everything we see in this room 895 00:41:32,402 --> 00:41:34,709 when you look around, you're looking back in time. 896 00:41:34,753 --> 00:41:38,408 I think the potential is limitless 897 00:41:38,452 --> 00:41:39,975 for time travel stories... 898 00:41:40,019 --> 00:41:41,194 Chris, thanks for doing this. 899 00:41:41,237 --> 00:41:42,543 No, thank you for having me. 900 00:41:42,587 --> 00:41:44,893 It's exciting to talk about.Okay. Good. 901 00:41:44,937 --> 00:41:46,112 All right, give us a cut then. 902 00:41:46,155 --> 00:41:48,331 I'll give you a cut. Done. 903 00:41:48,375 --> 00:41:49,681 Going home. -Done. 904 00:41:49,724 --> 00:41:50,899 [ Laughs ] 71248

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