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We're sending you back
to the future!
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Reeves:
Why is time travel fun?
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Here we go.
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Because who doesn't
wonder about the past?
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Who doesn't wonder
about the future?
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Somebody comes back from the
future to change what happened.
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Are we basically in a movie
that's already been shot?
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I'll be back.
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Yaszek: Time travel stories
embrace the potential
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that we might open up
new timelines, new worlds,
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and new possibilities
for ourselves as people.
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That kind of imagination which
can see through everything.
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Spielberg: What are we always
trying to do when we
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tell stories
about time travel?
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What I'm always trying to do
is to touch people
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in the heart.
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Today, I'm the age
you were when you left.
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This would be a real good time
for you to come back.
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Gleick: If we can go any place
we want in time,
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time is no longer our jailor.
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Every second of our past
makes us who we are.
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And the idea that we could
relive that or view it
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from another perspective
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is so human, and so spiritual, I
think that it touches everyone.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Cameron: You've basically
covered just about
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every base
in science fiction,
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from alien contact, monsters,
space travel, everything,
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and you executive produced
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the "Back To The Future"
series of films.
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Series.
Yeah.
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Do you think time
travel is possible?
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I asked Stephen Hawking
that one day,
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when I worked
with Errol Morris.
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How many people
get to say that?
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But when I was working
with Errol Morris
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as his executive producer
on the documentary
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on Stephen Hawking's book,
"A Brief History of Time."
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I asked Stephen Hawking
that question
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because "Back To The Future"
just came out.
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And Stephen Hawking said
it's very possible
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to go into the future,
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but impossible
to go back into the past.
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Hey, we're time traveling now
at one minute per minute.
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So he kind of was eluding
to the fact that everything in
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"Back To The Future"
could never happen.
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Couldn't really happen.
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♪♪
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Jonathan: The classical idea
of a time machine in which
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you can go into it
at one point in time
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and come back out the other side
at some other point in time,
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it's almost
certainly impossible.
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[ Screams ]
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But what's beautiful
about filmmaking
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is you don't have
to listen to the physicist.
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Whether or not
time travel exists,
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it speaks to that question
of free will, essentially.
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That's the question
we're playing with
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when we're playing
with time travel.
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It opens up
all sorts of fascinating
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thought experiments about
how that might play out.
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Gale:
In the summer of 1980,
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I discovered my father's
high school yearbook
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and that was where
the proverbial bolt
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of lightning struck.
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What if you could go to
high school with your dad?
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And what if your mom went
to the same high school?
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Don't I know you
from somewhere?
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Yes, I'm your density...
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Who wouldn't want to be
a fly on the wall
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on their parents'
first date, right?
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So in "Back To The Future,"
a kid named Marty McFly
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accidentally goes back in time,
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and interferes with the event
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that made his parents meet
and fall in love.
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So Marty has two problems.
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One -- he has to get
back to 1985,
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but before he can do
that he has to make sure
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that he puts the love affair
between his father
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and his mother back on track.
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Lloyd: Everybody has that
fantasy -- time travel --
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and I feel "Back To The Future"
just makes it so rich
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with possibility, with a kid,
this crazy guy, and a DeLorean!
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You know, I mean,
it's just, my God!
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Yaszek: So there have been time
travel stories in the past,
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such as Charles Dickens'
"A Christmas Carol,"
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in which Scrooge travels
by means of dream visions
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that allow him to visit the past
and the present and the future.
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In Mark Twain's "A Connecticut
Yankee In King Arthur's Court,"
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our protagonist
is bonked on the head,
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and that's what returns him
to medieval England.
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We never bought that stuff.
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We wanted it to be scientific.
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It's gotta be via
a time machine of some sort.
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So, that would be some guy
who invented time travel
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in his garage,
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and that of course is
Dr. Emmett L. Brown.
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Doc?
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Don't say a word!
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I just loved this Doc who is
feverishly trying to invent
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everything he could
imagine inventing,
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and time travel of course
would be the ultimate.
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When this baby hits
88 miles per hour,
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you're going to see
some serious [bleep]
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His excitement about
achieving that is incredible.
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I loved it.
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Mark. Action!
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Wolfe:
Movies like "Back to the Future"
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provide a kind of tutorial
about how paradoxes
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are things you can play with.
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Prior to this point in time,
somewhere in the past,
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the time line skewed
into this tangent,
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creating an alternate 1985.
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Lloyd: It's necessary
for Doc to say it,
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not just for the audience
to be caught up with the story,
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but because he's gotta say --
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"I've got to do this because of
this because if that happens,
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then you've got this going!"
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Marty, whatever happens,
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you must not let
your other self see you.
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The consequences
could be disastrous.
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Excuse me, sir?
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He's in total terror
that one mistake of judgment
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and the whole cosmos
could collapse.
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This is the thing that every
writer always struggles with
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in time travel stories.
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If you go back in time
and something that you do
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when you're back there,
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causes the death
of your grandfather
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before he has impregnated
your grandmother,
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and you therefore
cease to exist.
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-Right.
-But if you cease to exist,
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then you weren't around
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to get in the time machine
in the first place
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and to go back
in time and do that.
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So what happens?
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[ Laughs ]
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They call it
the grandfather paradox.
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Now remember, according
to my theory
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you interfered with
your parents first meeting.
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If they don't meet
they won't fall in love,
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they won't get married,
and they won't have kids.
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"Back To The Future" laid out
its rules so clearly,
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it effectively taught
the movie audience
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this is what happens
when you change the past,
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this is what an alternate
timeline might look like.
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There are also kind of
creepy questions like
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what happens when
your mom falls in love
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with you as a teenager...
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The most memorable piece
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is Marty's photograph
of himself from the '80s,
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which he carries around
with him back into the '50s
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and keeps looking at it to make
sure he's still in the picture.
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Erased from existence.
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So the photograph itself
is obviously
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incredibly paradoxical.
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Because why would his brother
and sister be there
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if his parents had never met?
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And like, why would there
even have been a photograph
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in the first place?
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But nobody ever stops
to think about that,
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because we've set up
this rule that says that
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when Marty disappears
from this photo,
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he's going to fade
out of existence.
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It's a perfect dramatization
of the idea
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of erasing yourself
from the timeline.
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Time travel movies
sort of invent
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whatever device will
create the best story.
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"Back To The Future"
really set up a mousetrap
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to create the perfect
kind of suspense.
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♪ ...the vision
of your happiness ♪
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♪ Whoa, oh-oh-oh
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♪ Earth angel, earth angel
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♪ Please be mine
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♪♪
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Time travel opens up
a lot of possibilities.
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So you can have
an alternate history,
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you can have
an alternate present.
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It allows us to change
a lot of different weird things
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about our reality.
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And the possibilities
are kind of limitless.
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Why is so much of our fantasy,
you know our,
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our imagination
in science fiction genre
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taken up with this idea
of time travel?
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Because we can't do it.
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I think it is just wonderful
to see it on the screen
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and imagine ourselves
being in that situation.
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I would have loved
to be able to time travel.
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I mean, imagine
to go back and say,
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"I'm not going to do
'Hercules In New York.'"
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My name is Hercules.
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Hercules, Schmercules.
Give me the dough!
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I mean,
it's like, unbelievable.
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That's the thing
you want to go back and do?
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Not meet Jesus,
not kill Hitler.
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You want to go back
and fix that one movie.
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This haunts you.
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To go to kill Hitler or to go
and be back in the Roman days,
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wow, it would be
really interesting
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to be able
to time travel.
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But the question is,
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If you can move
back and forth in time,
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do we have free will?
Right.
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Because "The Terminator" movies
are kind of about that.
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They're about free will.
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If somebody comes back
from the future
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to change what happens
down there,
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then are we just all puppets
of a time line?
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I have total faith in you
that you will figure it out.
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[ Electricity crackling ]
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♪♪
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Singer: There's an interesting
theme in "The Terminator" about
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Can we change the past?
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Can we change the future?
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And what you see is the future
coming back to destroy the past.
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The Terminator coming back
to try to kill
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Sarah Connor also brings
back Kyle Reese...
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Who becomes the father
to John Connor
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and creates the leader
of humanity.
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The time machine was a mechanism
to put the Terminator
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and also Michael Biehn,
the soldier, into the past.
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That character was sent
by John Connor in the future
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to go back in time
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to protect this girl
from the Terminator.
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Gerrold: Once they're there,
then you have this chase,
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who's gonna rescue Sarah Connor
or is she gonna get killed?
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Science fiction is a great place
to ask is our destiny fixed?
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Or can we change it?
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I didn't do anything.
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No, but you will.
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The question is are we locked
into one series of events?
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Like, by the end
of the first film,
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you realize you're seeing
the creation myth
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of the thing they've gone back
to prevent in the first place.
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The 2nd film opens up
the possibility
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and Sarah Connor
speaks to it directly.
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Maybe that's not the universe
we're stuck in.
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Maybe the future isn't written.
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Sarah sticks a knife
in the table and says,
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"There's no fate
but what we make for ourselves."
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She's been told that
she can change the future.
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But is that just an illusion?
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Are we basically in a movie
that's already been shot?
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It's already rolled up
in the can someplace?
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[ Laughs ]
That could be!
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You can play it forward and
backward as much as you want,
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but the ending
never changes?
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I think that we have control
over ourselves
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and I think that we have
the power to create changes.
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Your son gave me a message
to give to you.
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"The future is not set.
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You must survive
or I will never exist."
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The future is not set.
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You know, I mean that's --
that's kind of the line --
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the future's not set.
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And it can be altered.
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Sarah: Should I tell you
about your father?
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If you don't send Kyle,
you can never be.
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The point that the film makes
is that you can change history.
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You can escape the Terminator.
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But time travel
is not about history
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and it's not about time travel,
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it's about
accepting responsibility
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for all the possibilities
in your own life.
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The idea of taking
the wrong turn
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and making
a correction later on,
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it's not a new idea
in science fiction.
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It's not even a new idea
in the movies.
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"Looper" is one where
you're essentially trying
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to not change the world,
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but change your world,
change your life.
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Gleick: In "Looper," the
time traveler is a hit man.
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Wouldn't you know?
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He's a hit man played both
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by Joseph Gordon-Levitt
and Bruce Willis.
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Gordon-Levitt:
When you agree to be a Looper,
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it's not a long-term job.
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There's not much
of a future in it.
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One day, you know
that your future self
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is going to show up
in front of you...
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and you're going to
have to shoot it.
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Newitz: That's gonna be
his final hit.
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To kill himself.
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And he, and all of
the other loopers,
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enter into this bargain.
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And you have to do it.
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If you don't do it
it's a really big problem.
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[ Grunts ]
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Wolfe: The older one,
the Bruce Willis character,
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knows the whole story.
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But the younger one is learning
for the first time what's --
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what's going on.
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And he naturally
has a few questions.
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So do you know
what's gonna happen?
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I don't wanna talk about
time travel [no audio]
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because if we start
talking about it
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then we're gonna
be here all day
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talking about it,
making diagrams with straws.
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Willis:
Talking about time travel.
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It makes you go crazy.
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And the option of going
through a conversation like that
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with you at a younger age
would make you even crazier.
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Move, [bleep]damnit.
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Gordon-Levitt:
Time travel is a device that
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story is using to tell a story
about human nature
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and how humans
treat each other and why.
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Move.
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♪♪
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[ Clock ticking ]
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Young Joe: Then I saw it.
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Gordon-Levitt: If "Looper" is a
story about how violence
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perpetuates more violence,
to me, the lesson is
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that you just create more
problems and worse problems.
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Young Joe: I saw it...
and the path was a circle.
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It's kind of about
changing your own destiny.
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And it's kind of about
how your destiny
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is always being shaped by people
more powerful than yourself.
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And how do you really
get out of a dark cycle?
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The movie is pointing out
another way to end that cycle.
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Young Joe: So I changed it.
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Newitz:
It is an existential dilemma.
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A lot of time travel is
very philosophical in that way.
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Joe finally takes control
of his life by ending it.
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Why are we fascinated
by time travel?
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Well, you know people
very often ask me
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why am I interested
in time, I say,
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"Well, because
I've always lived in it."
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-Yeah, right.
-It's -- I'm -- we are.
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We feel
very trapped in it.
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It's like, we try to
hang on to the moment.
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We take photographs
of everything, right?
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We desperately
want to hang on to
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this reality
and it recedes.
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What time travel allows us
to do is to say,
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"Okay, but what if
we could?
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What if we could
preserve that moment.
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What if we could revisit
that moment, genuinely?"
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Well, that's all science fiction
is about -- What if?
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What if we could
travel through space,
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what if we could
travel through time?
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♪♪
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Lithgow: What makes
"Interstellar" so compelling
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is that the filmmakers
devised these turns of plot
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to create a real
classic family story
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with the deepest
possible emotions.
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Yaszek: Fundamentally,
"Interstellar" is about
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the human cost of time travel.
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It's a deeply and intensely
personal drama,
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and the story of what happens
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when a father is separated
from his child.
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I said stay!
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No, I'm coming back.
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When?
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Will he go and save humanity
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or will he stay
with his daughter instead?
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I mean, by the time
I get back, we --
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we might even
be the same age.
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Ah, Murph.
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You have no idea
when you're coming back?
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Lithgow: "Interstellar" projects
us into a near future
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in which the world has
gone through
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an enormous global catastrophe.
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Nelson's torching
his whole crop.
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Blight?
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They're saying it's the last
harvest for okra.
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Ever.
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I play Cooper's father-in-law.
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Matthew McConaughey plays
Cooper, a former astronaut,
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who by several turns of plot,
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goes shooting
into outer space.
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We've got to move to another
planet or we'll not survive.
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♪♪
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Nicholson: "Interstellar" is
an unusual time travel film
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because instead of building
a literal time machine
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and having it be
about an invention,
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it's about the way
time works in space,
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the way that it speeds up
or slows down
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depending on wormholes
and gravitational pull.
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I think there are
all sorts of different ways
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of looking
at time travel,
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and when I came
to do "Interstellar,"
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which is not a time travel movie
but has that element in it...
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It does fold time
at the end.
It does.
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You still approached it
very rigorously.
Yes.
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By going to some
of the top experts.
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It was a really fascinating
part of the process
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because Kip Thorne who was
one of the original...
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-Caltech I think.
-Caltech.
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And Kip is one
of the great minds in physics.
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What he taught me is
that once you can grasp
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those physical concepts
as concepts of astrophysics,
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they offer you
this great launching pad
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for story possibilities
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to do with relativity
and all these things.
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-Time dilation.
-Exactly.
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Jonathan: There are two forms
of time travel.
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There's the time travel
that is probably impossible
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and that's going backwards.
401
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Then you have time travel,
which is not only possible,
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but already a feature
of our world,
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which is time dilation forwards.
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Gates: In science, there's this
thing called the "twin paradox,"
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which basically says that
if my twin gets in a spaceship
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and goes traveling at,
near to the speed of light,
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and then returns to Earth,
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00:18:41,598 --> 00:18:43,513
when my twin gets back
to Earth, my twin
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will be younger than I am.
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00:18:45,907 --> 00:18:48,518
That's a form of time travel.
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00:18:48,562 --> 00:18:52,174
And that is actually
brilliantly illustrated
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in the movie "Interstellar."
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Go, go, go, go, go.
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Seven years per hour here.
Let's make it count.
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"Interstellar" explored,
in the most advanced way,
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how time travel
really might work.
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00:19:05,492 --> 00:19:07,624
When they go
to the water planet,
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time works differently.
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They come back to their ship,
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00:19:12,977 --> 00:19:16,067
and the guy who stayed
on the ship has grown old.
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00:19:16,111 --> 00:19:18,853
I've waited years.
422
00:19:18,896 --> 00:19:22,422
How --
How many years?
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By now it must be...
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23 years, 4 months, 8 days.
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"Interstellar" suggests that
time travel will always
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have a certain kind of tradeoff.
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So on the one hand,
the scientist's ability
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to travel through space and time
is essential to saving humanity,
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but the fact that he has to go
on this journey
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00:19:41,528 --> 00:19:43,834
in the first place, and to be
separated from his daughter
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for most of her natural life,
suggests the very real cost.
432
00:19:48,622 --> 00:19:52,191
Hey, Dad.
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00:19:52,234 --> 00:19:53,931
Hey, Murph.
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You son of a bitch.
435
00:19:55,977 --> 00:20:02,113
There are moments when Matthew
is allowed to see his daughter,
436
00:20:02,157 --> 00:20:04,159
by, uh, video stream.
437
00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:06,640
It's absolutely heartbreaking.
438
00:20:06,683 --> 00:20:08,990
You once told me
that when you came back,
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we might be the same age.
440
00:20:12,689 --> 00:20:16,563
And today, I'm the age
you were when you left.
441
00:20:18,652 --> 00:20:22,351
This might be a real good time
for you to come back.
442
00:20:22,395 --> 00:20:25,136
People talk about,
"My kid was born, and I blinked,
443
00:20:25,180 --> 00:20:27,878
and then I sent them
off to college."
444
00:20:27,922 --> 00:20:30,011
The movie is literally
about that.
445
00:20:32,318 --> 00:20:35,973
The sacrifices that go along
with whatever it is
446
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that you've given your life to,
447
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at the expense of these moments
with your family,
448
00:20:41,762 --> 00:20:45,722
which I think is the very
poetic part of "Interstellar."
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So if "Interstellar" explores
the human cost of time travel,
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"Primer" does something
very similar,
451
00:20:53,164 --> 00:20:55,645
but it does so
in a different way.
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00:20:55,689 --> 00:20:57,778
We have two everyday engineers
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who accidentally
create time travel.
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00:21:01,390 --> 00:21:03,610
Anything?
455
00:21:03,653 --> 00:21:05,699
-Is this normal?
-I don't know.
456
00:21:05,742 --> 00:21:08,963
Some people think
it's the most credible,
457
00:21:09,006 --> 00:21:12,314
complicated,
time travel movie.
458
00:21:12,358 --> 00:21:15,361
It's done on a very low budget.
459
00:21:15,404 --> 00:21:17,972
Do you know who directed that?
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00:21:18,015 --> 00:21:19,321
Shane Carruth.
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00:21:19,365 --> 00:21:21,149
He's in it, he's lovely in it.
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00:21:21,192 --> 00:21:23,934
-Wow.
-What's it doing?
463
00:21:23,978 --> 00:21:26,415
I don't know
if I'm making it up...
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Carruth:
These two guys, Abe and Aaron,
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keep investigating
this phenomenon.
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There's this weird
anomaly that shows up.
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What they finally realize
is that they have
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created a space
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that you can travel
through time in.
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So they take this,
and create a bigger box,
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big enough for a human to be in.
472
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Yaszek: When they do this,
they use it for really mundane
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and very human purposes.
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One uses it
to play the stock market.
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And time travel ends up
pulling the friends apart.
476
00:21:59,274 --> 00:22:00,667
I just want to know
what box you used.
477
00:22:00,710 --> 00:22:02,364
You built the one for you,
right? Just the one?
478
00:22:02,408 --> 00:22:03,844
Yeah.
How many do you think I made?
479
00:22:03,887 --> 00:22:05,498
They are suspicious
of each other
480
00:22:05,541 --> 00:22:06,934
and they're also
deceiving each other
481
00:22:06,977 --> 00:22:09,284
because something
about going back in time
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affects their brain,
483
00:22:10,590 --> 00:22:13,332
and they do start
losing their minds.
484
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Yaszek: Like many other movies,
"Primer" does indeed suggest
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that there is a cost
to time travel,
486
00:22:20,730 --> 00:22:23,603
and in this case the cost
is both emotional and physical.
487
00:22:23,646 --> 00:22:26,649
What's on your hand?
Are you bleeding?
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Carruth: So when we start seeing
our characters show up,
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and they've got,
you know, bloody ears,
490
00:22:30,740 --> 00:22:32,786
and they lose
the ability to write,
491
00:22:32,829 --> 00:22:35,658
their right-handed writing looks
like their left-handed writing,
492
00:22:35,702 --> 00:22:37,747
there's something
going on mentally that
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they are paying
the price with.
494
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The time-travel story,
it's a kind of Faustian tale.
495
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The bargain with the devil.
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Everything is a barter.
497
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:52,806
If you sell
your soul to the devil,
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00:22:52,849 --> 00:22:56,418
you can have everything
you ever dreamed of.
499
00:22:56,462 --> 00:22:59,943
But eventually
you pay the piper.
500
00:23:02,424 --> 00:23:04,687
Who doesn't wonder
about the past?
501
00:23:04,731 --> 00:23:06,341
Who doesn't wonder
about the future?
502
00:23:06,385 --> 00:23:08,648
How many times has that game
been played, you know,
503
00:23:08,691 --> 00:23:11,912
if you could go back
in time, where would you go?
504
00:23:11,955 --> 00:23:15,306
Gleick:
Can you remember the first time
you ever heard of time travel?
505
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:17,787
"I think ancient Greeks
must have had time travel.
506
00:23:17,831 --> 00:23:20,268
Isn't there some time travel
thing in Shakespeare?"
507
00:23:20,311 --> 00:23:22,313
Right?
But there isn't.
508
00:23:22,357 --> 00:23:27,144
Time travel is new.
Time travel is a new idea.
509
00:23:27,188 --> 00:23:31,105
Before H.G. Wells,
it didn't exist.
510
00:23:33,586 --> 00:23:37,024
Wolfe: What Wells gave the time
travel story was the machine.
511
00:23:37,067 --> 00:23:38,765
The idea that somebody
could build a machine
512
00:23:38,808 --> 00:23:42,203
that would do for time what
rocket ships would do for space.
513
00:23:42,246 --> 00:23:44,466
And the idea was just
irresistible.
514
00:23:44,510 --> 00:23:48,644
It's literally true that
the words "time" and "travel"
515
00:23:48,688 --> 00:23:53,475
in English were never
used together before H.G. Wells
516
00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:56,696
invented this character
that he called...
517
00:23:56,739 --> 00:23:58,915
The Time Traveller.
518
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,810
My grandfather, H.G. Wells,
wrote that in 1895.
519
00:24:25,855 --> 00:24:30,512
This is a first edition
of "The Time Machine."
520
00:24:30,556 --> 00:24:33,167
Firstly, he was writing
anything he could sell.
521
00:24:33,210 --> 00:24:34,821
The novels that we now know,
522
00:24:34,864 --> 00:24:36,736
which are these great
science-fiction novels,
523
00:24:36,779 --> 00:24:39,695
came after he'd spent years
writing as a journalist,
524
00:24:39,739 --> 00:24:43,133
but there was an enormous amount
of kind of revolutionary science
525
00:24:43,177 --> 00:24:44,744
going on at the time.
526
00:24:44,787 --> 00:24:47,877
Gleick: Darwin was talking about
the history of human life
527
00:24:47,921 --> 00:24:52,839
in terms of millions
and billions of years.
528
00:24:52,882 --> 00:24:55,319
Archaeologists were doing
the same thing.
529
00:24:55,363 --> 00:25:01,238
Humanity was developing a longer
view of time than ever before.
530
00:25:01,282 --> 00:25:02,544
When I speak of time,
gentlemen,
531
00:25:02,588 --> 00:25:05,547
I'm referring to
the fourth dimension.
532
00:25:05,591 --> 00:25:07,506
Weir:
H.G. Wells, "The Time Machine,"
533
00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:10,117
his character
goes forward in time,
534
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,685
no problem there.
535
00:25:12,728 --> 00:25:16,732
Going back in time --
entirely different thing.
536
00:25:16,776 --> 00:25:18,560
If you go back in time,
then you start running
537
00:25:18,604 --> 00:25:21,041
into all sorts of issues
with causality.
538
00:25:21,084 --> 00:25:24,740
Gleick: And that's the view
that's expressed in the phrase,
539
00:25:24,784 --> 00:25:26,525
the butterfly effect.
540
00:25:26,568 --> 00:25:30,746
A tiny change, a tiny
perturbation in a complex system
541
00:25:30,790 --> 00:25:34,750
can have enormous and
unpredictable consequences
542
00:25:34,794 --> 00:25:36,578
in a fairly short time.
543
00:25:36,622 --> 00:25:38,580
And it starts with
544
00:25:38,624 --> 00:25:41,235
"A Sound of Thunder"
by Ray Bradbury.
545
00:25:43,803 --> 00:25:45,674
Wolfe: The basic idea
of the story is that you can
546
00:25:45,718 --> 00:25:47,415
travel back in time,
but you're going to be
547
00:25:47,458 --> 00:25:50,679
on this suspended platform
and you can shoot a dinosaur
548
00:25:50,723 --> 00:25:52,507
but it has to be one
that was going to die anyway,
549
00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:55,292
so that you don't change
anything in the future.
550
00:25:55,336 --> 00:25:59,601
And this fairly arrogant
game hunter steps off
551
00:25:59,645 --> 00:26:03,344
and kills a butterfly...
552
00:26:03,387 --> 00:26:05,215
And comes back and his future
has turned into
553
00:26:05,259 --> 00:26:08,001
this kind of dystopian version
of his own world
554
00:26:08,044 --> 00:26:11,395
that he barely recognizes.
555
00:26:11,439 --> 00:26:13,963
Lethem: Bradbury creates
these deep metaphors
556
00:26:14,007 --> 00:26:15,791
that give shape
to a lot of the way
557
00:26:15,835 --> 00:26:17,576
I think people have subsequently
558
00:26:17,619 --> 00:26:19,534
understood ideas
like time travel.
559
00:26:19,578 --> 00:26:23,320
Oh, if you change
a butterfly in the past,
560
00:26:23,364 --> 00:26:26,672
the entire future
might be different.
561
00:26:26,715 --> 00:26:29,152
Gleick: When writers
of time travel stories
562
00:26:29,196 --> 00:26:30,806
consider the logical
implications
563
00:26:30,850 --> 00:26:32,286
of everything that happens,
564
00:26:32,329 --> 00:26:36,769
they get tied up
in these paradoxes.
565
00:26:36,812 --> 00:26:40,642
Lethem: Robert Heinlein is the
first writer to get the pleasure
566
00:26:40,686 --> 00:26:43,123
and peculiarity
of time travel paradoxes
567
00:26:43,166 --> 00:26:45,995
and how they can be exploited
again and again and again.
568
00:26:46,039 --> 00:26:48,607
He sees that the problem
with time travel stories
569
00:26:48,650 --> 00:26:51,348
isn't a problem,
it's an opportunity.
570
00:26:51,392 --> 00:26:53,481
Wolfe: He wrote stories like
"All You Zombies,"
571
00:26:53,524 --> 00:26:55,701
which has nothing to do
with zombies, by the way,
572
00:26:55,744 --> 00:27:00,009
but it has to do with probably
the most completely confusing
573
00:27:00,053 --> 00:27:04,797
and delightful science fiction
time paradox story there is,
574
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,495
which was made into
the film "Predestination."
575
00:27:07,538 --> 00:27:10,019
I can do this,
I can change my past.
576
00:27:10,063 --> 00:27:12,631
Yes, you can.
577
00:27:12,674 --> 00:27:15,677
Have you ever thought
about changing yours?
578
00:27:15,721 --> 00:27:17,374
I never deviate
from the mission.
579
00:27:17,418 --> 00:27:21,161
Predestination is about
an intersex time traveler
580
00:27:21,204 --> 00:27:24,207
who starts life
as a woman --
581
00:27:24,251 --> 00:27:27,689
is forced into gender
reassignment, becomes a man.
582
00:27:27,733 --> 00:27:31,040
That man then travels
back in time,
583
00:27:31,084 --> 00:27:34,914
falls in love
with his female self,
584
00:27:34,957 --> 00:27:37,090
that female self
then has a child
585
00:27:37,133 --> 00:27:40,006
which ends up being
the creation of themselves.
586
00:27:40,049 --> 00:27:42,704
So it's an intersex
time-traveling
587
00:27:42,748 --> 00:27:47,317
incest love story.
588
00:27:47,361 --> 00:27:50,233
Gleick: And in fact "Playboy"
magazine rejected the story
589
00:27:50,277 --> 00:27:53,280
because all the sex
made the editor queasy,
590
00:27:53,323 --> 00:27:55,412
the editor of "Playboy."
591
00:27:55,456 --> 00:27:57,937
Peter: Well, I think it had to
do with the idea of having sex
592
00:27:57,980 --> 00:28:00,069
with yourself
to create yourself,
593
00:28:00,113 --> 00:28:01,505
which is kind of crazy
594
00:28:01,549 --> 00:28:03,377
that "Playboy"
would have an issue
595
00:28:03,420 --> 00:28:04,770
with something like that.
596
00:28:04,813 --> 00:28:07,468
But it was 1959.
597
00:28:10,123 --> 00:28:11,690
Well, it's the age-old
question --
598
00:28:11,733 --> 00:28:14,083
which came first
the chicken or the egg?
599
00:28:14,127 --> 00:28:15,606
Yeah.
We say the rooster.
600
00:28:15,650 --> 00:28:17,913
Some things
are predestined, right?
601
00:28:17,957 --> 00:28:20,350
I made you who you are,
you made me who I am,
602
00:28:20,394 --> 00:28:21,743
it's a paradox, right?
603
00:28:21,787 --> 00:28:25,007
But it can be para-doctored!
[ Laughs ]
604
00:28:25,051 --> 00:28:28,402
Rutherford:
We've had time travel
in science fiction movies
605
00:28:28,445 --> 00:28:32,101
for most of the 20th century,
so I guess the question is why?
606
00:28:32,145 --> 00:28:35,452
Well, because what you're doing
is exploring possible futures.
607
00:28:35,496 --> 00:28:37,846
You're exploring the decisions
that we make now.
608
00:28:37,890 --> 00:28:41,676
It enables us to imagine
what the future will be like
609
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,548
or what the past would be like
if we interacted with it.
610
00:28:44,592 --> 00:28:48,509
It's incredibly important way
of exploring potential futures.
611
00:28:48,552 --> 00:28:51,555
Man: The future is now.
612
00:28:54,776 --> 00:28:57,561
Singer: So many science fiction
movies are about these brilliant
613
00:28:57,605 --> 00:29:03,350
scientists and astrophysicists,
biologists.
614
00:29:03,393 --> 00:29:06,483
And "Bill And Ted's
Excellent Adventure" is not.
615
00:29:06,527 --> 00:29:08,659
No way!
616
00:29:08,703 --> 00:29:10,270
Yes, way Ted!
617
00:29:10,313 --> 00:29:11,619
Both: Whoa.
618
00:29:11,662 --> 00:29:14,491
In a way, "Bill & Ted"
becomes important
619
00:29:14,535 --> 00:29:17,277
just because it's so different
from everything else.
620
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,409
It makes you think
what is wrong with us,
621
00:29:19,453 --> 00:29:21,760
the people writing these films,
if we can't imagine
622
00:29:21,803 --> 00:29:23,892
the future
as anything but awful?
623
00:29:23,936 --> 00:29:26,286
Two dudes can be
the heroes, man.
624
00:29:26,329 --> 00:29:27,591
Ready Ted?
625
00:29:27,635 --> 00:29:29,332
Ready Bill?
626
00:29:29,376 --> 00:29:31,900
Let's go back
into history!
627
00:29:31,944 --> 00:29:36,818
Alex Winter and I became
Bill and Ted.
628
00:29:36,862 --> 00:29:41,083
Bill S. Preston, Esquire,
Ted Theodore Logan.
629
00:29:41,127 --> 00:29:43,390
Both: Excellent!
630
00:29:43,433 --> 00:29:45,174
Bill and Ted are idiots.
631
00:29:45,218 --> 00:29:47,786
And our teacher tells us that if
we don't pass our history exam
632
00:29:47,829 --> 00:29:49,831
we're going to fail
out of school.
633
00:29:49,875 --> 00:29:51,398
The lady in that car
over there said
634
00:29:51,441 --> 00:29:55,010
that Marco Polo
was in the year 1275.
635
00:29:55,054 --> 00:29:57,447
So it's not just
a water sport. I knew it.
636
00:29:57,491 --> 00:30:00,668
If they fail Ted's dad is going
to send him to military school,
637
00:30:00,711 --> 00:30:02,148
and if they're
separated their band
638
00:30:02,191 --> 00:30:05,412
will never form
and save the world.
639
00:30:06,979 --> 00:30:08,763
Someone from the future
shows up and says,
640
00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:10,112
"We're going to help you."
641
00:30:10,156 --> 00:30:12,854
Do you know when
the Mongols ruled China?
642
00:30:12,898 --> 00:30:15,248
Perhaps we can ask them.
643
00:30:17,467 --> 00:30:19,643
Reeves: Bill and Ted of course
can accept everything.
644
00:30:19,687 --> 00:30:22,342
Dudes, you guys are going
to go back in time!
645
00:30:22,385 --> 00:30:24,039
-Yeah!
-They're kind of like
646
00:30:24,083 --> 00:30:29,828
these modern fools, of kind of
an eternal optimism.
647
00:30:29,871 --> 00:30:32,091
Solomon: We had a funny moment,
Chris Matheson and I,
648
00:30:32,134 --> 00:30:34,745
when we wrote it
we were not involved
649
00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:36,225
in the casting of the film,
650
00:30:36,269 --> 00:30:40,055
and didn't know who
would play Bill and Ted.
651
00:30:40,099 --> 00:30:42,101
We had flown to Arizona where
we were shooting the movie
652
00:30:42,144 --> 00:30:44,799
and we were at
a McDonald's in line,
653
00:30:44,843 --> 00:30:46,888
and we saw a couple
of kids in front of us
654
00:30:46,932 --> 00:30:48,759
and goofing off
and we were like,
655
00:30:48,803 --> 00:30:50,196
"Those are the guys,
656
00:30:50,239 --> 00:30:52,067
that's who should be playing
Bill and Ted!"
657
00:30:52,111 --> 00:30:55,723
And later on that day
we met Keanu and Alex
658
00:30:55,766 --> 00:30:57,420
and those were the guys
that were in front of us
659
00:30:57,464 --> 00:31:01,772
at McDonald's and we were like,
"That's perfect."
660
00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:03,774
Winter: And you know of course
we are bequeathed
661
00:31:03,818 --> 00:31:06,603
a time traveling phone booth
by George Carlin
662
00:31:06,647 --> 00:31:09,911
and set upon a mission
through spacetime.
663
00:31:09,955 --> 00:31:12,000
We collect all the various
characters from history
664
00:31:12,044 --> 00:31:13,697
because that would be
the most awesome report
665
00:31:13,741 --> 00:31:15,569
you could have would be
to actually have the real
666
00:31:15,612 --> 00:31:17,701
people there.
667
00:31:17,745 --> 00:31:19,616
We love toying
with all these paradoxes.
668
00:31:19,660 --> 00:31:23,272
And one of my favorite parts
of the "Bill & Ted" movie
669
00:31:23,316 --> 00:31:26,101
is when all the historical
figures are in jail
670
00:31:26,145 --> 00:31:27,450
and they can't get out.
671
00:31:27,494 --> 00:31:29,148
Can we get
your dad's keys?
672
00:31:29,191 --> 00:31:31,541
Could steal 'em!Good thinking dude!
673
00:31:31,585 --> 00:31:34,327
After the report we'll time
travel back to two days ago,
674
00:31:34,370 --> 00:31:38,679
steal your dad's keys
and leave them here.
675
00:31:38,722 --> 00:31:39,985
See?!
676
00:31:40,028 --> 00:31:41,595
-Whoa!
-Yeah!
677
00:31:41,638 --> 00:31:43,423
So after the report
we can't forget to do this
678
00:31:43,466 --> 00:31:44,990
otherwise it won't happen.
679
00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:47,949
Ted is like connecting
to his future self
680
00:31:47,993 --> 00:31:49,559
through his present self to know
681
00:31:49,603 --> 00:31:51,474
where his future self
will want to hide the keys
682
00:31:51,518 --> 00:31:54,477
because the future self already
knows what the past self did,
683
00:31:54,521 --> 00:31:57,437
but the past self doesn't know
what the future self did,
684
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,352
but he knows the character.
685
00:31:59,395 --> 00:32:00,875
Come on, Ted.
686
00:32:00,919 --> 00:32:03,312
We've got some historical
figures to rescue.
687
00:32:03,356 --> 00:32:05,575
Rutherford: And it perfectly
encapsulates the absurdity
688
00:32:05,619 --> 00:32:07,360
of the time travel paradox.
689
00:32:07,403 --> 00:32:09,318
You just have to remind yourself
to have done them in the past
690
00:32:09,362 --> 00:32:10,667
and they will be done
in the future.
691
00:32:10,711 --> 00:32:13,192
And I just thought
that was terrific.
692
00:32:13,235 --> 00:32:17,152
It just says, yeah,
don't worry about it.
693
00:32:17,196 --> 00:32:19,894
It's pretty fascinating
honestly how rare
694
00:32:19,938 --> 00:32:21,200
"Bill & Ted's
Excellent Adventure"
695
00:32:21,243 --> 00:32:23,680
is in the grand history
of sci-fi films.
696
00:32:23,724 --> 00:32:27,597
To have a sci-fi film that says,
"Eh! This is just fun!"
697
00:32:27,641 --> 00:32:30,339
is an incredible strange relief.
698
00:32:30,383 --> 00:32:32,515
Both: No way!
699
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:34,343
Crowe: It's not the only
science fiction film
700
00:32:34,387 --> 00:32:36,084
to have fun with time travel.
701
00:32:36,128 --> 00:32:39,305
In fact, this comedy
was the first to popularize
702
00:32:39,348 --> 00:32:43,265
a particular form of time travel
called the time loop.
703
00:32:43,309 --> 00:32:48,357
Rita, I'm re-living
the same day over and over.
704
00:32:48,401 --> 00:32:50,620
Groundhog Day.
Today.
705
00:32:50,664 --> 00:32:53,101
Yaszek: "Groundhog Day" uses
the device of a time loop
706
00:32:53,145 --> 00:32:56,061
as a way to explore ways
you need to work on yourself
707
00:32:56,104 --> 00:32:58,411
before you can grow up
and have meaningful
708
00:32:58,454 --> 00:33:01,327
relationships with other people.
709
00:33:01,370 --> 00:33:03,851
Rubin: When I was first
brainstorming ideas,
710
00:33:03,894 --> 00:33:06,027
I actually wrote on
the little index card,
711
00:33:06,071 --> 00:33:07,681
"time machine."
712
00:33:07,724 --> 00:33:10,640
But I didn't really know
what was going to be involved
713
00:33:10,684 --> 00:33:12,903
or how it was going to work.
714
00:33:12,947 --> 00:33:16,124
Phil? Phil?!
Phil Connors?
715
00:33:16,168 --> 00:33:17,691
Phil Connors,
I thought that was you.
716
00:33:17,734 --> 00:33:19,301
Hey, how are you?
717
00:33:19,345 --> 00:33:21,912
I just thought, "Okay,
whatever it is the rule is,
718
00:33:21,956 --> 00:33:24,132
he can remember,
but nobody else can remember.
719
00:33:24,176 --> 00:33:27,527
So for them
it's just the same day.
720
00:33:27,570 --> 00:33:32,401
And for him it's part of a long,
long, long repetition of days."
721
00:33:32,445 --> 00:33:34,621
Yaszek: And the audience learns
to expect that,
722
00:33:34,664 --> 00:33:37,928
and can begin to sort of map
the day along with the character
723
00:33:37,972 --> 00:33:39,974
and see if they can figure out
724
00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:44,587
how to get out of
this time loop before he does.
725
00:33:44,631 --> 00:33:47,199
Lethem: The real time travel
machine, is your brain.
726
00:33:47,242 --> 00:33:49,853
In here, we're constantly
recoiling
727
00:33:49,897 --> 00:33:53,944
through different versions
of ourselves, memories,
728
00:33:53,988 --> 00:33:56,164
and daydreams, alternate paths,
729
00:33:56,208 --> 00:33:58,166
where we might end up
somewhere different.
730
00:33:58,210 --> 00:34:00,647
Do you ever have déjà vu,
Mrs. Lancaster?
731
00:34:00,690 --> 00:34:02,910
I don't think so, but I could
check with the kitchen?
732
00:34:02,953 --> 00:34:06,914
And this is what the time travel
story crystallizes for us.
733
00:34:06,957 --> 00:34:08,698
It's a model of consciousness,
734
00:34:08,742 --> 00:34:12,093
which is constantly reeling with
ultimate freedom through time,
735
00:34:12,137 --> 00:34:16,793
and then finding itself stuck,
once again, in the real world.
736
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,275
Nicholson: In the first stretch
of "Groundhog Day,"
737
00:34:20,319 --> 00:34:22,799
Bill Murray knows everything
that's gonna happen to him,
738
00:34:22,843 --> 00:34:25,106
he can make that work
to his advantage.
739
00:34:25,150 --> 00:34:27,456
Rubin: And he does it in the way
an adolescent would,
740
00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:31,808
just having fun and also
becoming kind of sociopathic.
741
00:34:31,852 --> 00:34:33,288
You don't really care
about the other people.
742
00:34:33,332 --> 00:34:35,812
They are objects in your life.
743
00:34:35,856 --> 00:34:37,988
And then it moves on
to a depression
744
00:34:38,032 --> 00:34:40,469
where he finally decides
to kill himself.
745
00:34:40,513 --> 00:34:45,126
And he finds that
he cannot even do that.
746
00:34:45,170 --> 00:34:46,562
This is Tom, he worked
in the coal mine
747
00:34:46,606 --> 00:34:47,824
until they
closed it down.
748
00:34:47,868 --> 00:34:49,826
This is where he,
for the first time
749
00:34:49,870 --> 00:34:52,481
starts to notice other people,
750
00:34:52,525 --> 00:34:55,658
and realizes that
they have lives, too,
751
00:34:55,702 --> 00:34:57,791
and that he's part
of a community
752
00:34:57,834 --> 00:35:00,010
and by seeing himself
differently,
753
00:35:00,054 --> 00:35:03,231
he actually opens up
a whole new world to himself.
754
00:35:03,275 --> 00:35:07,279
Hello, father, let's get
you someplace warm.
755
00:35:07,322 --> 00:35:10,717
The wonderful thing about
being stuck in a time loop,
756
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,849
it makes us look at our lives
in a fresh way
757
00:35:12,893 --> 00:35:14,938
which is one of the great
things that movies can do,
758
00:35:14,982 --> 00:35:16,331
and especially science fiction,
759
00:35:16,375 --> 00:35:19,029
because it can so
immediately place you
760
00:35:19,073 --> 00:35:22,163
in a different time and place.
761
00:35:22,207 --> 00:35:24,165
Nicholson: Maybe we all do need
a time travel movie
762
00:35:24,209 --> 00:35:25,688
to make us a better version
of ourselves,
763
00:35:25,732 --> 00:35:29,257
but I hope that we're not
stuck as long as he is.
764
00:35:29,301 --> 00:35:32,304
Anything different
is good.
765
00:35:34,306 --> 00:35:35,959
My name is Doctor Who.
766
00:35:36,003 --> 00:35:37,178
It's not, is it?
767
00:35:37,222 --> 00:35:38,701
I like it.
768
00:35:38,745 --> 00:35:40,312
You don't know it yet.
769
00:35:40,355 --> 00:35:43,576
But in a short time, you will
trust me with your life.
770
00:35:43,619 --> 00:35:48,058
Rutherford: "Doctor Who" is a
very British, slightly eccentric
771
00:35:48,102 --> 00:35:49,799
extraordinary series
772
00:35:49,843 --> 00:35:52,019
that's been running
for more than 50 years now.
773
00:35:52,062 --> 00:35:56,763
And it involves a charming,
peculiar Time Lord.
774
00:35:56,806 --> 00:36:01,202
We're time travelers.
We tread softly.
775
00:36:01,246 --> 00:36:03,813
He's an alien who has
come down to protect us
776
00:36:03,857 --> 00:36:06,773
from the rest of the universe
by traveling through time
777
00:36:06,816 --> 00:36:09,428
and by interacting
with real historical events
778
00:36:09,471 --> 00:36:11,473
in both the past
and the future.
779
00:36:11,517 --> 00:36:13,083
We're unarmed.
780
00:36:13,127 --> 00:36:16,391
You wouldn't open fire on an
unarmed civilians would you?
781
00:36:16,435 --> 00:36:19,264
It wouldn't be
the first time.
782
00:36:19,307 --> 00:36:21,222
Chuggles, now!
783
00:36:21,266 --> 00:36:23,659
[ Electricity crackling ]
784
00:36:23,703 --> 00:36:26,575
Oh, I love "Doctor Who."
785
00:36:26,619 --> 00:36:29,230
Over the past 50 years
there have been a total
786
00:36:29,274 --> 00:36:30,710
of 12 Doctor Whos.
787
00:36:30,753 --> 00:36:33,365
Each new performer brings
his own thing to it.
788
00:36:33,408 --> 00:36:35,845
I've seen literally
every episode of "Doctor Who"
789
00:36:35,889 --> 00:36:38,935
that's ever been made
from "An Unearthly Child,"
790
00:36:38,979 --> 00:36:40,937
which was made in 1963,
791
00:36:40,981 --> 00:36:45,551
all the way up to the current
Peter Capaldi Doctor Whos.
792
00:36:45,594 --> 00:36:48,815
You are the dark side, you are
an enemy of the Daleks.
793
00:36:48,858 --> 00:36:50,251
Oh, yes, I am.
794
00:36:50,295 --> 00:36:52,993
Exterminate!
795
00:36:53,036 --> 00:36:54,516
Capaldi:
I grew up with the show.
796
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,041
I lived in a tenement
in Glasgow in Scotland,
797
00:36:58,085 --> 00:37:01,958
and through these flickering
little blue images
798
00:37:02,002 --> 00:37:06,311
I'd be taken to other planets
with strange creatures
799
00:37:06,354 --> 00:37:09,096
with wonderful
imaginative designs.
800
00:37:09,139 --> 00:37:12,230
Do you think you're the first
to try and kill me?
801
00:37:12,273 --> 00:37:15,537
And also there has always been
a kind of B-movie element
802
00:37:15,581 --> 00:37:18,975
to it, which I've always loved.
803
00:37:19,019 --> 00:37:21,935
Is everything out here evil?Hardly anything is evil.
804
00:37:21,978 --> 00:37:23,589
But most things are hungry.
805
00:37:23,632 --> 00:37:25,808
Hunger looks very like evil from
the wrong end of the cutlery
806
00:37:25,852 --> 00:37:28,985
or do you think that your
bacon sandwich loves you back?
807
00:37:29,029 --> 00:37:31,161
Wolfe: I think one of the things
that's appealing
808
00:37:31,205 --> 00:37:34,077
about "Doctor Who," is there's
a tradition of English humor
809
00:37:34,121 --> 00:37:37,124
which suggests that
the future is all a joke.
810
00:37:37,167 --> 00:37:38,604
He's a Time Lord, yes.
811
00:37:38,647 --> 00:37:40,301
And he can travel back
and forth in time,
812
00:37:40,345 --> 00:37:42,390
and he does it in absurd ways.
813
00:37:42,434 --> 00:37:46,916
Time And Relative
Dimension In Space.
814
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,398
TARDIS for short.
815
00:37:50,442 --> 00:37:52,400
Capaldi: The Doctor's time
machine, the TARDIS,
816
00:37:52,444 --> 00:37:56,448
is one of the best ever
because it invokes
817
00:37:56,491 --> 00:37:59,320
the playing with physics
818
00:37:59,364 --> 00:38:02,497
that is going to be necessary
to travel through time and space
819
00:38:02,541 --> 00:38:05,674
because his machine
is bigger on the inside
820
00:38:05,718 --> 00:38:07,546
than it is on the outside.
821
00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:10,505
So your box can move.
822
00:38:10,549 --> 00:38:12,725
We can go anywhere
we like.
823
00:38:12,768 --> 00:38:14,640
Newitz:
He always has a human companion.
824
00:38:14,683 --> 00:38:16,032
And he brings that companion
825
00:38:16,076 --> 00:38:17,817
along with him
on his adventures.
826
00:38:17,860 --> 00:38:20,602
-Where are we?
-The end of the road.
827
00:38:20,646 --> 00:38:22,212
The last planet.
828
00:38:22,256 --> 00:38:25,433
He seems to have a special place
in his heart for humans.
829
00:38:25,477 --> 00:38:28,306
Picking individual
ordinary people
830
00:38:28,349 --> 00:38:31,439
and showing them
all of time and space
831
00:38:31,483 --> 00:38:34,486
and giving them
a broader view on life.
832
00:38:34,529 --> 00:38:36,836
Gerrold: He's the Doctor.
What do doctors do?
833
00:38:36,879 --> 00:38:39,882
They heal sick situations,
sick people.
834
00:38:39,926 --> 00:38:41,623
But why do you
have to destroy?
835
00:38:41,667 --> 00:38:42,885
Can't you use your brains?
836
00:38:42,929 --> 00:38:45,540
Only one race can survive.
837
00:38:45,584 --> 00:38:49,065
This senseless evil killing.
838
00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:52,939
The first actor, the wonderful
William Hartnell, became ill
839
00:38:52,982 --> 00:38:54,810
and couldn't carry on
with the show.
840
00:38:54,854 --> 00:38:57,422
So they came up with this
rather brilliant idea,
841
00:38:57,465 --> 00:39:03,689
which is that the Doctor has the
ability to reconstitute himself.
842
00:39:03,732 --> 00:39:10,522
♪♪
843
00:39:10,565 --> 00:39:13,046
This has allowed
this show to last
844
00:39:13,089 --> 00:39:17,442
because we change the lead
actor every three or four years,
845
00:39:17,485 --> 00:39:21,402
which no other show does.
846
00:39:21,446 --> 00:39:25,798
It has all these other levels
of philosophical
847
00:39:25,841 --> 00:39:28,670
and reflective nature
848
00:39:28,714 --> 00:39:33,109
that make it very, very rich.
849
00:39:33,153 --> 00:39:35,198
[ Wheezing ]
850
00:39:35,242 --> 00:39:36,635
Oh!
851
00:39:36,678 --> 00:39:39,246
People always ask me
what is it about the show
852
00:39:39,289 --> 00:39:41,944
that appeals so broadly?
853
00:39:41,988 --> 00:39:44,120
The answer I would like to give
854
00:39:44,164 --> 00:39:46,209
and which I'm discouraged
from giving,
855
00:39:46,253 --> 00:39:51,084
because it is not useful
in the promotion of a brand,
856
00:39:51,127 --> 00:39:53,782
is that it's about death.
857
00:39:53,826 --> 00:39:58,396
And it has a very, very powerful
death motif in it.
858
00:39:58,439 --> 00:40:01,137
which is that the central
character dies.
859
00:40:01,181 --> 00:40:04,489
Doctor, let it go.
860
00:40:07,448 --> 00:40:09,450
Time enough.
861
00:40:09,494 --> 00:40:13,106
And I think that is one
of its most potent mysteries.
862
00:40:13,149 --> 00:40:14,977
Because somewhere in that,
863
00:40:15,021 --> 00:40:17,980
people see that that's
what happens in life.
864
00:40:18,024 --> 00:40:23,551
You have loved ones,
and then they go,
865
00:40:23,595 --> 00:40:26,641
but you must carry on.
866
00:40:26,685 --> 00:40:30,210
Gleick: There are a lot of ways
in which time travel stories
867
00:40:30,253 --> 00:40:33,822
sneakily are about
eluding death.
868
00:40:33,866 --> 00:40:35,650
Time is what kills us,
after all.
869
00:40:35,694 --> 00:40:38,566
Time is a bastard.
870
00:40:38,610 --> 00:40:44,311
♪♪
871
00:40:44,354 --> 00:40:47,009
There's something that speaks
to our souls about time travel
872
00:40:47,053 --> 00:40:51,057
where there's
a fatalism involved
873
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:52,711
that is
reassuring somehow.
874
00:40:52,754 --> 00:40:54,626
Right.
Because it tells you
that the mistakes
875
00:40:54,669 --> 00:40:56,497
were always gonna happen.Yeah.
876
00:40:56,541 --> 00:40:58,281
I mean, one of
the fascinating things --
877
00:40:58,325 --> 00:41:00,414
I was explaining to my kids
the other day --
878
00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:02,503
that if you look
at the idea of a telescope.
879
00:41:02,547 --> 00:41:04,113
Telescope is a way
of looking back in time,
880
00:41:04,157 --> 00:41:05,506
and not just space.It's a time machine.
881
00:41:05,550 --> 00:41:06,942
It's a time machine.
882
00:41:06,986 --> 00:41:08,509
And you look at the smallest
star, the further away,
883
00:41:08,553 --> 00:41:10,250
the further back
in time you're looking.
884
00:41:10,293 --> 00:41:12,382
And theoretically
you could make more
885
00:41:12,426 --> 00:41:13,906
and more
powerful telescopes,
886
00:41:13,949 --> 00:41:16,082
and you can look further
and further back in time.
887
00:41:16,125 --> 00:41:18,388
It's just
a mind-boggling concept.
888
00:41:18,432 --> 00:41:20,260
Theoretically
the sun could have gone out
889
00:41:20,303 --> 00:41:22,697
seven and a half minutes ago
and we just don't know yet
890
00:41:22,741 --> 00:41:24,351
'cause it takes light
a while to get here.
891
00:41:24,394 --> 00:41:26,527
Exactly.
Let's hope not.
892
00:41:26,571 --> 00:41:28,877
But that idea of
looking back in time
893
00:41:28,921 --> 00:41:30,313
as you look out
into the world,
894
00:41:30,357 --> 00:41:32,359
the fact that everything
we see in this room
895
00:41:32,402 --> 00:41:34,709
when you look around,
you're looking back in time.
896
00:41:34,753 --> 00:41:38,408
I think the potential
is limitless
897
00:41:38,452 --> 00:41:39,975
for time travel stories...
898
00:41:40,019 --> 00:41:41,194
Chris,
thanks for doing this.
899
00:41:41,237 --> 00:41:42,543
No, thank you
for having me.
900
00:41:42,587 --> 00:41:44,893
It's exciting to talk about.Okay. Good.
901
00:41:44,937 --> 00:41:46,112
All right,
give us a cut then.
902
00:41:46,155 --> 00:41:48,331
I'll give you a cut.
Done.
903
00:41:48,375 --> 00:41:49,681
Going home.
-Done.
904
00:41:49,724 --> 00:41:50,899
[ Laughs ]
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