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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,375 --> 00:00:10,911 Captain Kirk: Space, the final frontier. 2 00:00:10,944 --> 00:00:14,482 Science fiction is basically saying 3 00:00:14,515 --> 00:00:16,884 there are no limits. 4 00:00:16,917 --> 00:00:19,653 Space is anything we want it to be. Yes! 5 00:00:19,687 --> 00:00:22,623 The scale of the universe is unbelievably stunning. 6 00:00:22,656 --> 00:00:23,991 [Woman screams] 7 00:00:24,024 --> 00:00:25,859 Weaver: We are asking those big questions, 8 00:00:25,893 --> 00:00:27,895 like "Where are we going?" 9 00:00:27,928 --> 00:00:30,998 and "What does it say about us as humans?" 10 00:00:31,031 --> 00:00:33,067 Jovovich: Think it answers something elemental 11 00:00:33,101 --> 00:00:35,936 in human beings, which is, "We love danger." 12 00:00:35,969 --> 00:00:37,705 Aaah! 13 00:00:37,738 --> 00:00:39,673 Space travel sounds rather perilous. 14 00:00:39,707 --> 00:00:43,077 They will never get me onto one of those dreadful starships. 15 00:00:43,111 --> 00:00:45,446 Cameron: Science fiction inspired the rocketeers 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,648 who brought us to the moon. 17 00:00:47,681 --> 00:00:49,483 And that's just the beginning. 18 00:00:49,517 --> 00:00:50,684 Whoo! 19 00:00:50,718 --> 00:00:51,985 Science fiction holds out hope 20 00:00:52,019 --> 00:00:55,656 for even more incredible discoveries. 21 00:00:55,689 --> 00:00:58,659 I think we're curious in our bones 22 00:00:58,692 --> 00:01:00,694 about going into the galaxy. 23 00:01:00,728 --> 00:01:02,730 What has the galaxy ever done for you? 24 00:01:02,763 --> 00:01:04,098 Why would you wanna save it? 25 00:01:04,132 --> 00:01:06,434 Because I'm one of the idiots who lives in it! 26 00:01:06,467 --> 00:01:09,903 Cameron: Humanity is hardwired to explore 27 00:01:09,937 --> 00:01:11,772 and to exploit. 28 00:01:11,805 --> 00:01:13,941 Coleman: We are citizens of the universe. 29 00:01:13,974 --> 00:01:14,942 * Eeeeee 30 00:01:14,975 --> 00:01:16,610 We belong there, too. 31 00:01:16,644 --> 00:01:21,048 ** 32 00:01:21,081 --> 00:01:23,484 [Whispers] I hate space. 33 00:01:23,517 --> 00:01:26,520 ** 34 00:01:32,092 --> 00:01:35,095 ** 35 00:01:40,868 --> 00:01:43,871 ** 36 00:01:49,643 --> 00:01:52,646 ** 37 00:01:58,419 --> 00:01:59,720 Cameron: I've been thinking about this idea 38 00:01:59,753 --> 00:02:01,855 that space is anything we want it to be. 39 00:02:01,889 --> 00:02:03,791 It's the great unknown, and we can project 40 00:02:03,824 --> 00:02:06,460 our fantasies and our ideas, our sociology, 41 00:02:06,494 --> 00:02:08,529 and, you know, we can use it just as an excuse 42 00:02:08,562 --> 00:02:10,564 to get to a completely different culture, 43 00:02:10,598 --> 00:02:12,166 or we can take it at face-value 44 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,403 as a problem we need to solve. Yeah. 45 00:02:15,436 --> 00:02:16,937 And I sorta think about science f-- 46 00:02:16,970 --> 00:02:19,407 space science-fiction as, you know, on the one hand, 47 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,643 you got the hard-tech stuff, like "2001," 48 00:02:22,676 --> 00:02:24,745 and then, at the other end of the spectrum, 49 00:02:24,778 --> 00:02:27,147 it's more space as a kind of 50 00:02:27,181 --> 00:02:30,083 complete unfettering of the imagination. 51 00:02:30,117 --> 00:02:32,653 You got -- You got two things. 52 00:02:32,686 --> 00:02:35,989 No matter how you do it, whether it's "2001" 53 00:02:36,023 --> 00:02:38,025 or "Star Wars," they're adventures. 54 00:02:38,058 --> 00:02:42,596 The -- The -- The big bogeyman is the unknown. 55 00:02:42,630 --> 00:02:44,732 Right. Because the thing about humans -- 56 00:02:44,765 --> 00:02:45,833 it's always been with us -- 57 00:02:45,866 --> 00:02:47,701 is we have an imagination. 58 00:02:47,735 --> 00:02:50,638 The night sky has always been the great mystery. 59 00:02:50,671 --> 00:02:52,940 One, it's terrifying because you walk out in it 60 00:02:52,973 --> 00:02:55,008 and you get eaten. 61 00:02:55,042 --> 00:02:56,577 And the other part is that there's -- 62 00:02:56,610 --> 00:02:58,479 there's things up there. 63 00:02:58,512 --> 00:03:00,514 I mean, the stars, the planets. Yeah. 64 00:03:00,548 --> 00:03:02,683 And the things have to mean something. 65 00:03:02,716 --> 00:03:04,885 So this is a primal attraction, is what you're saying. 66 00:03:04,918 --> 00:03:07,821 Yes. And man has curiosity. 67 00:03:07,855 --> 00:03:10,891 Curiosity and imagination bring you things like stories. 68 00:03:10,924 --> 00:03:12,726 So you're saying it's a mystical connection. 69 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,828 Yep, yep. But th-- there's a mystical connection with the sky 70 00:03:14,862 --> 00:03:16,830 and with stars and all things, 71 00:03:16,864 --> 00:03:18,599 so they relate directly to us. 72 00:03:18,632 --> 00:03:20,234 Isn't that what we try to do with our movies? 73 00:03:20,268 --> 00:03:22,703 Yeah. Take -- Capture a little bit of that awe 74 00:03:22,736 --> 00:03:24,538 and bring it into a movie theater 75 00:03:24,572 --> 00:03:27,975 and -- and feel what it might be like to go out there? 76 00:03:30,143 --> 00:03:31,879 [Static crackles] 77 00:03:31,912 --> 00:03:35,483 Houston, I have a bad feeling about this mission. 78 00:03:35,516 --> 00:03:37,117 Nicholson: What Alfonso Cuarón does with the camera 79 00:03:37,150 --> 00:03:39,219 at the very beginning of "Gravity" 80 00:03:39,253 --> 00:03:43,023 is you have this extended single-camera shot 81 00:03:43,056 --> 00:03:44,992 where you watch both George Clooney 82 00:03:45,025 --> 00:03:47,595 and Sandra Bullock float around space, 83 00:03:47,628 --> 00:03:50,864 and you have these images of how small a human 84 00:03:50,898 --> 00:03:54,234 can be in front of the entire planet, 85 00:03:54,268 --> 00:03:55,603 and then the camera will spin around 86 00:03:55,636 --> 00:03:56,937 and you'll see how small a human 87 00:03:56,970 --> 00:04:00,274 is in front of the vastness of the universe. 88 00:04:00,308 --> 00:04:03,944 Can't beat the view. 89 00:04:03,977 --> 00:04:08,148 Coleman: That movie really brought people to space. 90 00:04:08,181 --> 00:04:12,152 It showed them not only what the view looked like, 91 00:04:12,185 --> 00:04:16,056 but also what it felt like to have the view, 92 00:04:16,089 --> 00:04:19,827 and that was so important to me to be able to share 93 00:04:19,860 --> 00:04:22,896 because the view is unimaginable. 94 00:04:22,930 --> 00:04:26,900 It was so clean and pristine, it almost hurt your eyes 95 00:04:26,934 --> 00:04:28,902 because the edges are so sharp, 96 00:04:28,936 --> 00:04:31,905 and it's giant. 97 00:04:31,939 --> 00:04:35,175 So, what do you like about being up here? 98 00:04:35,208 --> 00:04:38,846 Stone: The silence. 99 00:04:38,879 --> 00:04:40,748 When I was living up on the space station, 100 00:04:40,781 --> 00:04:45,185 my little brother met Sandra Bullock's brother-in-law. 101 00:04:45,218 --> 00:04:46,987 He said, "Well, you know, my sister-in-law's 102 00:04:47,020 --> 00:04:50,057 making this movie. Maybe your sister would talk to her." 103 00:04:50,090 --> 00:04:52,793 And my little brother said, "She's been up there 104 00:04:52,826 --> 00:04:54,828 for a couple of months with five guys, 105 00:04:54,862 --> 00:04:57,297 and I think she'd love to talk to Sandra Bullock." 106 00:04:57,331 --> 00:04:58,732 [Chuckles] 107 00:04:58,766 --> 00:05:00,701 How ya feeling? 108 00:05:00,734 --> 00:05:02,936 Like a Chihuahua that's being tumble-dried. 109 00:05:02,970 --> 00:05:04,905 Some of the things that she wanted to know 110 00:05:04,938 --> 00:05:07,908 were what's it like for me when I wake up in the morning, 111 00:05:07,941 --> 00:05:11,645 what's a hard thing, what's an easy thing, 112 00:05:11,679 --> 00:05:16,350 so that she understands how she can make space look real. 113 00:05:16,384 --> 00:05:18,686 ** 114 00:05:18,719 --> 00:05:21,355 Sandra, I thought, looked purposeful 115 00:05:21,389 --> 00:05:23,924 and not like a newbie. 116 00:05:23,957 --> 00:05:26,293 Perkowitz: Space travel has been a science-fiction theme 117 00:05:26,326 --> 00:05:28,362 for a long, long, long time. 118 00:05:28,396 --> 00:05:30,330 It is really fantastic the lengths 119 00:05:30,364 --> 00:05:32,766 that the early science-fiction writers went to 120 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,837 to get a space craft from the Earth even to the moon. 121 00:05:36,870 --> 00:05:39,973 Miller: George Méliès was originally a stage magician 122 00:05:40,007 --> 00:05:41,809 who got enamored 123 00:05:41,842 --> 00:05:45,245 with the brand-new art form of cinematography. 124 00:05:45,278 --> 00:05:48,115 And not only, uh, did he invent the science-fiction movie, 125 00:05:48,148 --> 00:05:50,684 he essentially invented movie special effects. 126 00:05:50,718 --> 00:05:53,987 And it was really based on the two giants 127 00:05:54,021 --> 00:05:55,756 of science fiction at the time -- 128 00:05:55,789 --> 00:05:58,058 H.G. Wells and Jules Verne. 129 00:05:58,091 --> 00:06:01,128 Jules Verne provided the plot and story 130 00:06:01,161 --> 00:06:02,696 for the first half of the movie 131 00:06:02,730 --> 00:06:04,732 with his "From the Earth to the Moon." 132 00:06:04,765 --> 00:06:06,934 The second half was based on H.G. Wells' 133 00:06:06,967 --> 00:06:08,836 "The First Men in the Moon." 134 00:06:08,869 --> 00:06:11,639 ** 135 00:06:11,672 --> 00:06:14,341 Wythoff: Early depictions of space travel show characters 136 00:06:14,374 --> 00:06:17,010 just moving about freely, opening up the door, 137 00:06:17,044 --> 00:06:19,279 and walking out into space with no trouble. 138 00:06:19,312 --> 00:06:23,917 ** 139 00:06:23,951 --> 00:06:27,120 But within a couple decades, things change pretty quickly 140 00:06:27,154 --> 00:06:30,991 in cinematic depictions of, uh, outer space and space travel, 141 00:06:31,024 --> 00:06:32,760 so, as early as the 1920s, 142 00:06:32,793 --> 00:06:34,962 you have films like "Woman in the Moon" 143 00:06:34,995 --> 00:06:36,897 by Fritz Lang, 144 00:06:36,930 --> 00:06:39,299 where characters are strapped into their seats, 145 00:06:39,332 --> 00:06:40,768 and as the ship is taking off, 146 00:06:40,801 --> 00:06:41,902 they can feel the pressure 147 00:06:41,935 --> 00:06:43,704 of the g-force on their chests, 148 00:06:43,737 --> 00:06:46,840 struggling to breathe as they lift off. 149 00:06:46,874 --> 00:06:48,375 Wolfe: And then you've got writers that worked 150 00:06:48,408 --> 00:06:50,110 for John W. Campbell Jr. 151 00:06:50,143 --> 00:06:52,680 when he began editing "Astounding Science Fiction," 152 00:06:52,713 --> 00:06:56,149 who were held to a standard of scientific verisimilitude, 153 00:06:56,183 --> 00:06:58,351 and that's when you start getting realistic, 154 00:06:58,385 --> 00:07:00,220 believable space adventures. 155 00:07:00,253 --> 00:07:02,823 No time for count-off! Stand by. 156 00:07:02,856 --> 00:07:03,824 Fire! 157 00:07:03,857 --> 00:07:06,894 [Engines blast] 158 00:07:06,927 --> 00:07:08,361 Pichel: Tell us about this trip to the moon. 159 00:07:08,395 --> 00:07:10,798 Do you -- Do you think this is possible? 160 00:07:10,831 --> 00:07:12,833 Oh, yes. Yes. It's quite possible. 161 00:07:12,866 --> 00:07:14,167 -We're here, aren't we? -Yeah. 162 00:07:14,201 --> 00:07:16,069 Not only are we here, but, uh, 163 00:07:16,103 --> 00:07:17,270 it can be done. 164 00:07:17,304 --> 00:07:19,106 It can be done as soon as anyone 165 00:07:19,139 --> 00:07:21,274 is willing to foot the bill to do it. 166 00:07:21,308 --> 00:07:24,011 Robert Heinlein was the guru of hard science-fiction, 167 00:07:24,044 --> 00:07:26,814 but I think, before that and beyond that, 168 00:07:26,847 --> 00:07:29,149 he was the guru of logical science-fiction. 169 00:07:29,182 --> 00:07:30,851 Heinlein asked the question -- 170 00:07:30,884 --> 00:07:33,220 which is the classic hard science-fiction question -- 171 00:07:33,253 --> 00:07:35,723 How do you do it? How do you solve that problem? 172 00:07:35,756 --> 00:07:38,792 Even today, that's a key theme in science fiction. 173 00:07:38,826 --> 00:07:40,393 Man: The pre-chain reaction is out of control. 174 00:07:40,427 --> 00:07:42,262 We're rapidly expanding. 175 00:07:42,295 --> 00:07:45,432 Multiple satellites are down and they keep on falling. 176 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:48,836 The Cuaróns wanted to recreate the good, the bad, 177 00:07:48,869 --> 00:07:50,370 and the ugly of space travel. 178 00:07:50,403 --> 00:07:51,905 Kowalski: Look, we need to get the hell out of here. 179 00:07:51,939 --> 00:07:53,173 -All right. -You need some help there, Matt? 180 00:07:53,206 --> 00:07:54,474 -No, don't wait for us. -It's stuck! 181 00:07:54,508 --> 00:07:55,876 Grazier: One of the things I discussed 182 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:57,878 with the Cuaróns was the Kessler syndrome 183 00:07:57,911 --> 00:08:00,113 and the notion that a destroyed satellite 184 00:08:00,147 --> 00:08:02,082 can lead to debris, which destroys more satellites 185 00:08:02,115 --> 00:08:03,984 and more debris. 186 00:08:04,017 --> 00:08:06,854 Space debris is a real concern for any spacecraft 187 00:08:06,887 --> 00:08:09,089 that has to travel through low Earth orbit today. 188 00:08:09,122 --> 00:08:11,358 [Screaming] Explore. 189 00:08:11,391 --> 00:08:15,195 At the speeds debris can travel, a small object like a bolt 190 00:08:15,228 --> 00:08:16,997 can hit you with the kinetic energy 191 00:08:17,030 --> 00:08:18,198 of a howitzer round. 192 00:08:18,231 --> 00:08:21,501 [Breathing heavily] 193 00:08:21,535 --> 00:08:24,471 The film "Gravity" is visually compelling 194 00:08:24,504 --> 00:08:28,275 because it really sets up the unforgiving dynamic, 195 00:08:28,308 --> 00:08:32,279 how just the smallest step in the wrong direction 196 00:08:32,312 --> 00:08:37,117 is going to send the entire series of events tumbling. 197 00:08:37,150 --> 00:08:39,119 And it only takes that much. 198 00:08:39,152 --> 00:08:40,554 No! 199 00:08:40,588 --> 00:08:42,389 Coleman: The only really big mistake they made 200 00:08:42,422 --> 00:08:45,926 in that movie is that, if you were up on a space station, 201 00:08:45,959 --> 00:08:48,361 the last thing you'd do is let George Clooney go. 202 00:08:52,365 --> 00:08:54,434 Lucas: There's a lot of secrets in the universe. 203 00:08:54,467 --> 00:08:55,903 We don't know anything. 204 00:08:55,936 --> 00:08:57,237 That's the one thing I do know for sure. 205 00:08:57,270 --> 00:09:00,207 But we've gotta get out of our solar system. 206 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,309 We've gotta get to another solar system. 207 00:09:02,342 --> 00:09:04,411 Yeah, but Einstein says you can't travel 208 00:09:04,444 --> 00:09:05,913 faster than the speed of light. 209 00:09:05,946 --> 00:09:09,482 Science fiction is basically saying 210 00:09:09,516 --> 00:09:11,051 there are no limits. 211 00:09:11,084 --> 00:09:12,519 That's right. Think outside the box. 212 00:09:12,552 --> 00:09:13,921 No matter what somebody tells you... Right. 213 00:09:13,954 --> 00:09:15,055 no matter what you've learned, 214 00:09:15,088 --> 00:09:16,223 throw all that away and say, 215 00:09:16,256 --> 00:09:18,091 "I can do anything I wanna do. 216 00:09:18,125 --> 00:09:20,060 You're in a completely different universe." 217 00:09:20,093 --> 00:09:22,596 Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dustin' crops, boy. 218 00:09:22,630 --> 00:09:24,064 Rutherford: We sometimes forget that space 219 00:09:24,097 --> 00:09:26,934 is cosmologically big. 220 00:09:26,967 --> 00:09:28,936 Traveling to the rest of the universe would take 221 00:09:28,969 --> 00:09:32,072 tens, thousands of years with current technology. 222 00:09:32,105 --> 00:09:33,406 The reason we measure them in light-years 223 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,909 is because it takes that long 224 00:09:35,943 --> 00:09:39,212 for the speed of light to travel that distance. 225 00:09:39,246 --> 00:09:42,850 Faster-than-light travel is the holy grail of space travel. 226 00:09:42,883 --> 00:09:45,853 And right now, it's the "baloneum" that we -- 227 00:09:45,886 --> 00:09:49,923 baloneum is that stuff you make up to make the story work 228 00:09:49,957 --> 00:09:51,625 and it's different from "handwaveum," 229 00:09:51,659 --> 00:09:53,426 which is how you distract 230 00:09:53,460 --> 00:09:55,362 [Laughs] the reader or the viewer, 231 00:09:55,395 --> 00:09:57,364 but, uh -- and it's not "unobtainium." 232 00:09:57,397 --> 00:10:00,500 That's a diff-- But baloneum is that stuff. 233 00:10:00,533 --> 00:10:02,102 If we had the right baloneum, 234 00:10:02,135 --> 00:10:04,938 we could make faster-than-light travel work. 235 00:10:04,972 --> 00:10:07,975 So, here is a perfect limitation for an artist. 236 00:10:08,008 --> 00:10:09,977 You can't go faster than light speed. 237 00:10:10,010 --> 00:10:13,146 How are we gonna get around it to explore the universe? 238 00:10:13,180 --> 00:10:14,547 Science-fiction writers said, 239 00:10:14,581 --> 00:10:16,616 "Okay, well, we have to create a speed 240 00:10:16,650 --> 00:10:18,485 faster than light speed." 241 00:10:18,518 --> 00:10:21,521 Are you ready to say goodbye to our solar system? 242 00:10:21,554 --> 00:10:23,924 Execute jump. 243 00:10:23,957 --> 00:10:26,126 I'm not sure what's wrong here. 244 00:10:26,159 --> 00:10:27,460 Is the parking brake on? 245 00:10:27,494 --> 00:10:28,561 [Gears grinding] 246 00:10:28,595 --> 00:10:30,330 Compressor. 247 00:10:30,363 --> 00:10:31,665 [Beeping] 248 00:10:31,699 --> 00:10:34,067 [R2-D2 screams] 249 00:10:34,101 --> 00:10:35,368 Whoo! 250 00:10:35,402 --> 00:10:41,374 ** 251 00:10:41,408 --> 00:10:43,543 What a rush. 252 00:10:43,576 --> 00:10:45,545 Cameron: And with that rush, science fiction 253 00:10:45,578 --> 00:10:47,547 launches an age of exploration. 254 00:10:47,580 --> 00:10:50,951 We're down to 0.3896th of light speed. 255 00:10:50,984 --> 00:10:53,086 Singer: "Forbidden Planet" is one of those rare, 256 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,688 big-budget science-fiction movies 257 00:10:54,722 --> 00:10:56,289 from a time when most science-fiction movies 258 00:10:56,323 --> 00:10:57,624 looked pretty cheesy. 259 00:10:57,657 --> 00:11:00,427 It's very easy to see many of the things 260 00:11:00,460 --> 00:11:02,095 that later science fiction, 261 00:11:02,129 --> 00:11:04,564 specifically "Star Trek," if not directly took from, 262 00:11:04,597 --> 00:11:07,234 was certainly inspired by. 263 00:11:07,267 --> 00:11:08,535 The ship on "Forbidden Planet" -- 264 00:11:08,568 --> 00:11:10,570 it almost looks like the saucer section 265 00:11:10,603 --> 00:11:12,472 of the Enterprise without the rest of it. 266 00:11:12,505 --> 00:11:14,607 These discs that they stand on -- 267 00:11:14,641 --> 00:11:17,010 it looks just like the transporter. 268 00:11:17,044 --> 00:11:19,612 It definitely looks like the designers of "Star Trek" 269 00:11:19,646 --> 00:11:21,181 looked at this and said, 270 00:11:21,214 --> 00:11:23,316 "Boy, this is a beautiful-looking movie." 271 00:11:23,350 --> 00:11:25,185 "Forbidden Planet" is definitely less diverse, 272 00:11:25,218 --> 00:11:27,220 which makes "Star Trek" special. 273 00:11:28,455 --> 00:11:31,591 Captain Kirk: Space, the final frontier. 274 00:11:31,624 --> 00:11:34,627 The importance of "Star Trek" is that it brought space 275 00:11:34,661 --> 00:11:36,396 into the living rooms of Americans 276 00:11:36,429 --> 00:11:38,198 and people really across the globe. 277 00:11:38,231 --> 00:11:40,333 It made space accessible. 278 00:11:40,367 --> 00:11:43,436 ["Star Trek" theme music plays] 279 00:11:43,470 --> 00:11:46,039 "Star Trek" was a classic, humanistic vision 280 00:11:46,073 --> 00:11:49,442 of a kind of utopian future that you l-live and let live. 281 00:11:49,476 --> 00:11:50,510 Captain Kirk: These are the voyages 282 00:11:50,543 --> 00:11:53,013 of the starship Enterprise. 283 00:11:53,046 --> 00:11:54,681 Wolfe: Gene Roddenberry said he wanted 284 00:11:54,714 --> 00:11:58,051 to do an all-inclusive series in space 285 00:11:58,085 --> 00:12:01,621 with all the ideas that could more easily be done 286 00:12:01,654 --> 00:12:04,691 in science fiction in the '60s than in realistic fiction. 287 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:08,428 Captain Kirk: To boldly go where no man has gone before. 288 00:12:08,461 --> 00:12:10,630 So, you could deal with controversial issues, 289 00:12:10,663 --> 00:12:13,233 but they weren't controversial because they're distanced. 290 00:12:13,266 --> 00:12:15,602 They're not us. That's not our own society. 291 00:12:15,635 --> 00:12:19,206 Fontana: We did wanna get into racial issues, sexist issues, 292 00:12:19,239 --> 00:12:20,673 that were going on at the time. 293 00:12:20,707 --> 00:12:25,045 And I think it opened a door into an alien world 294 00:12:25,078 --> 00:12:27,314 that people could say, "Oh, yeah, I get that." 295 00:12:27,347 --> 00:12:28,715 It offered lots of story opportunities 296 00:12:28,748 --> 00:12:31,284 to tell stories about 297 00:12:31,318 --> 00:12:32,685 things going on right here on Earth. 298 00:12:32,719 --> 00:12:33,753 [Chuckles] 299 00:12:33,787 --> 00:12:36,156 This is no game, Captain. 300 00:12:36,189 --> 00:12:38,458 Half a million people have just been killed. 301 00:12:38,491 --> 00:12:41,561 There's an episode called "A Taste of Armageddon" 302 00:12:41,594 --> 00:12:44,297 about these two planets that have -- 303 00:12:44,331 --> 00:12:46,333 that are conducting a virtual war. 304 00:12:46,366 --> 00:12:48,335 Computers, captain. 305 00:12:48,368 --> 00:12:50,670 They fight their war with computers, totally. 306 00:12:50,703 --> 00:12:53,807 Computers don't kill a half-million people. 307 00:12:53,841 --> 00:12:55,275 Deaths have been registered. 308 00:12:55,308 --> 00:12:57,377 Of course, they have 24 hours to report. 309 00:12:57,410 --> 00:12:58,545 To report? 310 00:12:58,578 --> 00:13:00,280 To our disintegration machines. 311 00:13:00,313 --> 00:13:02,082 At the very end of it, Kirk says... 312 00:13:02,115 --> 00:13:03,516 We're human beings 313 00:13:03,550 --> 00:13:06,253 with the blood of a million savage years 314 00:13:06,286 --> 00:13:08,488 on our hands. 315 00:13:08,521 --> 00:13:10,690 But we can stop it. 316 00:13:10,723 --> 00:13:13,126 We can admit that we're killers, 317 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:14,461 but we're not going to kill today. 318 00:13:14,494 --> 00:13:16,363 So all of these different stories, 319 00:13:16,396 --> 00:13:19,599 they all had a social message buried in them. 320 00:13:19,632 --> 00:13:21,101 Gene knew what he was doing, 321 00:13:21,134 --> 00:13:22,669 the writers knew what they were doing. 322 00:13:22,702 --> 00:13:24,071 It's up to you. 323 00:13:24,104 --> 00:13:25,372 "Star Trek" was a way of saying, 324 00:13:25,405 --> 00:13:27,240 "Look, we can do better. 325 00:13:27,274 --> 00:13:28,608 Things, the way they are, 326 00:13:28,641 --> 00:13:30,710 it's not necessarily the way they have to be." 327 00:13:30,743 --> 00:13:32,512 What about the cast of the show? 328 00:13:32,545 --> 00:13:35,682 I'm told that NBC only wanted white males on the bridge. 329 00:13:35,715 --> 00:13:37,284 No women, no blacks. 330 00:13:37,317 --> 00:13:39,786 When I brought in a mixed-racial crew, 331 00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:41,721 both the network and Desilu Studios, 332 00:13:41,754 --> 00:13:44,257 which had it at that time, came in, saying, uh, 333 00:13:44,291 --> 00:13:45,492 "What are you doing?! 334 00:13:45,525 --> 00:13:47,327 You're going to ruin us!" 335 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,263 I can tell you what happened to me the first time 336 00:13:50,297 --> 00:13:52,866 I saw "Star Trek." Really, before "Star Trek," 337 00:13:52,900 --> 00:13:56,336 there were no people of color in the future. 338 00:13:56,369 --> 00:13:59,139 We didn't really exist at all anywhere, 339 00:13:59,172 --> 00:14:03,210 and Gene Roddenberry created this group 340 00:14:03,243 --> 00:14:05,378 where this beautiful black woman, 341 00:14:05,412 --> 00:14:09,149 not a mammy, was head of communications. 342 00:14:09,182 --> 00:14:11,418 Captain, I'm picking up a sub-space distress call, 343 00:14:11,451 --> 00:14:14,587 priority channel. It's from Space Station K7. 344 00:14:14,621 --> 00:14:16,890 So to see her in that position, for me, 345 00:14:16,924 --> 00:14:18,491 was, like, extraordinary. 346 00:14:18,525 --> 00:14:20,827 And it's why I went to Gene 347 00:14:20,860 --> 00:14:24,864 to do "Star Trek: The Next Generation," 348 00:14:24,898 --> 00:14:29,202 was because of what Nichelle Nichols showed me, 349 00:14:29,236 --> 00:14:31,838 which was that I had a future in the world. 350 00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:34,607 What about you? Do you speak Romulan, cadet? 351 00:14:34,641 --> 00:14:37,911 Uhura. All three dialects, sir. 352 00:14:37,945 --> 00:14:39,612 Saldana: The day that I met Nichelle Nichols, 353 00:14:39,646 --> 00:14:40,813 I was very nervous 354 00:14:40,847 --> 00:14:43,416 because that was a first time for me 355 00:14:43,450 --> 00:14:45,718 to step into someone else's shoes. 356 00:14:45,752 --> 00:14:47,720 And she suspended any kind of judgment. 357 00:14:47,754 --> 00:14:50,157 If anything, she handed me that torch 358 00:14:50,190 --> 00:14:51,524 and she said, "Run with it." 359 00:14:51,558 --> 00:14:52,825 The jamming signal's gone. 360 00:14:52,859 --> 00:14:55,295 Transport abilities are reestablished. 361 00:14:55,328 --> 00:14:57,764 [Zoom!] 362 00:14:57,797 --> 00:14:59,566 The main attribute that "Star Trek" 363 00:14:59,599 --> 00:15:02,369 gives people is hope. 364 00:15:02,402 --> 00:15:05,738 May we together become greater than the sum of both of us. 365 00:15:05,772 --> 00:15:08,208 What I took from the original series 366 00:15:08,241 --> 00:15:11,678 was the love humanity is able to have, 367 00:15:11,711 --> 00:15:14,714 even if it's set in a time that they may never recognize, 368 00:15:14,747 --> 00:15:19,452 they may never meet, the strive for that is tangible. 369 00:15:19,486 --> 00:15:21,955 Live long and prosper, Spock. 370 00:15:21,989 --> 00:15:24,557 Live long and prosper. 371 00:15:24,591 --> 00:15:26,459 The cultural importance of the "Star Trek" franchise 372 00:15:26,493 --> 00:15:27,961 can't be underestimated. 373 00:15:27,995 --> 00:15:31,798 We've had, to date, seven different series, 13 films, 374 00:15:31,831 --> 00:15:36,336 and hundreds of novelizations, comic books, board games, 375 00:15:36,369 --> 00:15:39,706 video games, costumes. 376 00:15:39,739 --> 00:15:42,309 Fans love "Star Trek" because it does suggest 377 00:15:42,342 --> 00:15:43,943 that there will be opportunities for us 378 00:15:43,977 --> 00:15:46,980 to meet each other in space and to learn from each other. 379 00:15:47,014 --> 00:15:49,249 Moore: The most powerful message, to me, of "Star Trek" 380 00:15:49,282 --> 00:15:52,852 was just the idea that, by stepping out into the universe, 381 00:15:52,885 --> 00:15:55,222 we put our old problems behind us 382 00:15:55,255 --> 00:15:57,790 and we become better people through cooperation 383 00:15:57,824 --> 00:16:00,393 and, you know, believing in a certain set of values. 384 00:16:00,427 --> 00:16:01,694 [Laughter] 385 00:16:01,728 --> 00:16:03,296 It's a very romantic notion, 386 00:16:03,330 --> 00:16:04,697 it's a very idealistic notion, 387 00:16:04,731 --> 00:16:06,599 but that's a universe I wanna go live in. 388 00:16:06,633 --> 00:16:07,967 I wanna go get on a starship, 389 00:16:08,001 --> 00:16:09,836 I wanna be part of the Federation. 390 00:16:13,340 --> 00:16:15,608 "2001," as far as I'm concerned, 391 00:16:15,642 --> 00:16:17,477 is the best science-fiction film ever made. 392 00:16:17,510 --> 00:16:20,947 It is the quintessential what space travel is. 393 00:16:20,980 --> 00:16:22,849 Yeah. And it looks great. 394 00:16:22,882 --> 00:16:24,717 You know, it's -- it's -- it's -- it's just -- 395 00:16:24,751 --> 00:16:26,519 it's impeccable the way they put it together. 396 00:16:26,553 --> 00:16:30,590 The discovery coming overhead endlessly is basically... 397 00:16:30,623 --> 00:16:32,259 Right. ...the precursor 398 00:16:32,292 --> 00:16:33,993 of the -- of the opening shot of "Star Wars." 399 00:16:34,027 --> 00:16:36,896 Right. It stunned everybody, myself included. 400 00:16:36,929 --> 00:16:41,434 Probably "2001" had more of an influence on me than I realize. 401 00:16:41,468 --> 00:16:42,769 Mm-hmm. But at the same time, 402 00:16:42,802 --> 00:16:44,904 I was completely stoked by that movie. 403 00:16:44,937 --> 00:16:47,907 It's brilliant. 404 00:16:47,940 --> 00:16:54,581 Dullea: I think "2001" opened up films to be a much broader 405 00:16:54,614 --> 00:16:56,449 and interesting canvas, 406 00:16:56,483 --> 00:16:58,985 in terms of what space travel might be like, 407 00:16:59,018 --> 00:17:01,854 than anything that had been shown before. 408 00:17:01,888 --> 00:17:04,357 Everything was believable, even though we'd have 409 00:17:04,391 --> 00:17:07,660 our jaws on our laps in amazement, 410 00:17:07,694 --> 00:17:12,665 but everything always had a reality to it. 411 00:17:12,699 --> 00:17:14,734 Wolfe: That's absolutely the most 412 00:17:14,767 --> 00:17:17,070 meticulously accurate science-fiction 413 00:17:17,104 --> 00:17:19,406 movie between Arthur C. Clarke, 414 00:17:19,439 --> 00:17:21,074 the hard science-fiction writer, 415 00:17:21,108 --> 00:17:23,610 and Stanley Kubrick, the visionary filmmaker, 416 00:17:23,643 --> 00:17:25,412 who thought this image was all you need. 417 00:17:25,445 --> 00:17:27,680 Let the audience figure it out. 418 00:17:27,714 --> 00:17:31,951 In that sense, everything was a surprise 419 00:17:31,984 --> 00:17:38,057 and a visual entrée of unbelievable significance. 420 00:17:38,091 --> 00:17:40,427 But it's really not the -- the filmmaking part of it. 421 00:17:40,460 --> 00:17:42,462 It's the "let's go into outer space" part of it. 422 00:17:42,495 --> 00:17:45,098 That, too. That, too. And we have the reality now to deal with it, 423 00:17:45,132 --> 00:17:47,434 which is why Mars is becoming more of a thing, 424 00:17:47,467 --> 00:17:49,469 but we have to get people to say, 425 00:17:49,502 --> 00:17:51,003 "This is a fun adventure." 426 00:17:51,037 --> 00:17:54,774 ** 427 00:17:54,807 --> 00:17:57,544 Lando: Yee-haw! 428 00:17:57,577 --> 00:18:00,513 I guess I was probably 11 years old when I -- 429 00:18:00,547 --> 00:18:03,116 when I first saw "Star Wars." 430 00:18:03,150 --> 00:18:07,654 It was the most magnificent experience 431 00:18:07,687 --> 00:18:09,856 I had ever had in my life. 432 00:18:09,889 --> 00:18:13,826 My -- My mind was, you know, searching for those answers 433 00:18:13,860 --> 00:18:15,628 and the world and you're hungry 434 00:18:15,662 --> 00:18:17,964 and I looked at "Star Wars" 435 00:18:17,997 --> 00:18:22,001 and I j-- I knew I wanted to live in that world. 436 00:18:22,034 --> 00:18:25,805 I've been chasing "Star Wars" for my entire career. 437 00:18:25,838 --> 00:18:28,141 ** 438 00:18:28,175 --> 00:18:29,742 "Star Wars" is a landmark film 439 00:18:29,776 --> 00:18:31,478 in the history of science-fiction stories 440 00:18:31,511 --> 00:18:34,681 about space because it opened up the excitement 441 00:18:34,714 --> 00:18:36,949 and the adventure of traveling from planet to planet 442 00:18:36,983 --> 00:18:39,819 and made us all want to go there with the heroes. 443 00:18:39,852 --> 00:18:42,922 -Take 555. Take two. -Action. 444 00:18:42,955 --> 00:18:45,825 Dykstra: We built the cameras, we built the optical printers, 445 00:18:45,858 --> 00:18:48,761 we had built the miniatures all under one roof, 446 00:18:48,795 --> 00:18:51,864 which was kind of unusual. 447 00:18:51,898 --> 00:18:55,768 We could fabricate metal, we could do machining, 448 00:18:55,802 --> 00:18:59,172 the chemistry for the explosions. 449 00:18:59,206 --> 00:19:03,176 It was a whole litany of things that were new. 450 00:19:03,210 --> 00:19:06,946 The first shot in the movie was sort of the touchstone 451 00:19:06,979 --> 00:19:09,916 for whether it was gonna work or not. 452 00:19:09,949 --> 00:19:13,720 It had a miniature of the Star Destroyer, 453 00:19:13,753 --> 00:19:15,154 which was three feet long. 454 00:19:15,188 --> 00:19:16,656 [Lasers firing] 455 00:19:16,689 --> 00:19:19,526 When we saw it, everybody went, "Wow! 456 00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:21,928 It's great." 457 00:19:21,961 --> 00:19:26,666 That is a shot of pure awe where suddenly, as a viewer, 458 00:19:26,699 --> 00:19:29,035 you're just knocked out by the potential of space 459 00:19:29,068 --> 00:19:30,603 and where this movie could go. 460 00:19:30,637 --> 00:19:32,004 This was revolutionary. 461 00:19:32,038 --> 00:19:36,476 It really felt like you were standing there. 462 00:19:36,509 --> 00:19:37,977 And the ship was coming overhead. 463 00:19:38,010 --> 00:19:41,814 It was so transformative. 464 00:19:41,848 --> 00:19:45,151 Talk about what your influences were 465 00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:47,720 that fed into the creation of "Star Wars." 466 00:19:47,754 --> 00:19:50,457 As much as "Star Wars" seemed to just leap from your forehead... 467 00:19:50,490 --> 00:19:51,991 No. ...fully formed, 468 00:19:52,024 --> 00:19:53,560 it had roots that any-- 469 00:19:53,593 --> 00:19:55,528 anybody in the science fiction world knows. 470 00:19:55,562 --> 00:19:56,863 Nothing, nothing, nothing in this world 471 00:19:56,896 --> 00:19:58,598 pops into your head fully formed. 472 00:19:58,631 --> 00:20:01,801 It's an accumulation of all the things you've seen, 473 00:20:01,834 --> 00:20:03,770 and then, when you go to regurgitate it 474 00:20:03,803 --> 00:20:05,738 into your own thing, 475 00:20:05,772 --> 00:20:07,974 you take all the best parts. 476 00:20:08,007 --> 00:20:10,977 The roll-up -- that was taken from "Flash Gordon." 477 00:20:11,010 --> 00:20:13,012 The angle that it rolls up the screen 478 00:20:13,045 --> 00:20:15,147 with the way the text was arranged. 479 00:20:15,181 --> 00:20:17,016 Even the number of ellipses. 480 00:20:17,049 --> 00:20:20,753 And he was very much influenced by the movies of Akira Kurosawa. 481 00:20:20,787 --> 00:20:24,491 ** 482 00:20:24,524 --> 00:20:25,792 [Shouts] 483 00:20:25,825 --> 00:20:31,831 ** 484 00:20:31,864 --> 00:20:34,767 So, in terms of cowboy films, Lucas was very influenced 485 00:20:34,801 --> 00:20:38,271 by John Ford's "The Searchers," 486 00:20:38,305 --> 00:20:40,907 which contains a scene that very much mirrors 487 00:20:40,940 --> 00:20:44,577 the scene where Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru are murdered. 488 00:20:44,611 --> 00:20:47,614 ** 489 00:20:53,152 --> 00:20:56,923 Martha! Martha! 490 00:20:56,956 --> 00:20:59,759 Uncle Owen! Aunt Beru! 491 00:20:59,792 --> 00:21:02,729 That definitely helped fuel this notion that "Star Wars" 492 00:21:02,762 --> 00:21:04,564 is a space Western. 493 00:21:04,597 --> 00:21:08,167 ** 494 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,937 One of the things that was really critical in "Star Wars" 495 00:21:10,970 --> 00:21:12,672 was, again, this sense of adrenaline 496 00:21:12,705 --> 00:21:16,208 and the idea of trajectory in space. 497 00:21:16,242 --> 00:21:18,144 Almost there. 498 00:21:18,177 --> 00:21:21,047 And that brought some of that visceral quality back to it, 499 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,551 sort of the idea of having that rush. 500 00:21:24,584 --> 00:21:27,253 I can't shake him! 501 00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:29,121 And you know, it's interesting. 502 00:21:29,155 --> 00:21:32,124 The closer you get to something that speed, the faster it feels. 503 00:21:32,158 --> 00:21:35,762 It will be just like Beggar's Canyon back home. 504 00:21:35,795 --> 00:21:38,798 So that was really the idea behind the trench 505 00:21:38,831 --> 00:21:40,600 for the Death Star. 506 00:21:40,633 --> 00:21:43,269 Let's get people down into a space 507 00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:46,005 that's traveling at an extreme speed 508 00:21:46,038 --> 00:21:48,575 and give you the excitement that you get 509 00:21:48,608 --> 00:21:50,810 when you do it for real. [R2-D2 beeps] 510 00:21:50,843 --> 00:21:52,812 I mean, there's so many great shots in "Star Wars," 511 00:21:52,845 --> 00:21:57,049 but I think if there's one that makes my heart ache a bit, 512 00:21:57,083 --> 00:22:00,319 it's Luke seeing the two suns set. 513 00:22:00,353 --> 00:22:02,755 It just has this very "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" 514 00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:06,359 kind of wistful vibe to it. 515 00:22:06,393 --> 00:22:07,827 That was a shot that I can relate to 516 00:22:07,860 --> 00:22:09,328 as a teenager in Texas. [Chuckles] 517 00:22:09,362 --> 00:22:11,631 That is a shot that I think any kid can relate to. 518 00:22:11,664 --> 00:22:16,235 This idea of "What is next for me and how do I go?" 519 00:22:16,268 --> 00:22:19,305 There's this yearning that makes this space story 520 00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:23,175 feel like something that's happening to us. 521 00:22:23,209 --> 00:22:26,145 One of the reasons why I made "Star Wars" 522 00:22:26,178 --> 00:22:28,247 was it's made for 12-year-olds. 523 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,817 It appeals to everybody, but it was still made for 12-year-olds. 524 00:22:30,850 --> 00:22:32,752 We were all 12 once. And I tell people, 525 00:22:32,785 --> 00:22:34,153 "Don't underestimate 12-year-olds. 526 00:22:34,186 --> 00:22:35,788 They're smarter than the rest of us." Right. 527 00:22:35,822 --> 00:22:37,857 They get stuff much faster than you do. 528 00:22:37,890 --> 00:22:40,660 Yeah. And the whole point was to get them to allow to think -- 529 00:22:40,693 --> 00:22:42,395 to allow them to think outside the box. 530 00:22:42,429 --> 00:22:44,130 The whole thing is subjective and dream-like. 531 00:22:44,163 --> 00:22:46,098 Yeah, who said Wookiees can't fly? 532 00:22:46,132 --> 00:22:47,834 Well, I said they can fly. Yeah. 533 00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:49,736 [Chewbacca warbles] 534 00:22:49,769 --> 00:22:51,804 I said, "I'm not gonna obey the rules." 535 00:22:51,838 --> 00:22:54,874 If you can imagine it, you can do it, 536 00:22:54,907 --> 00:22:56,876 but if you can't imagine it, you can't do it. Yeah. 537 00:22:56,909 --> 00:22:58,811 Because -- It's the prison of your own mind, again. 538 00:22:58,845 --> 00:23:00,647 It's that prison of your own mind 539 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,082 that allows you to do it, and you can enjoy that 540 00:23:03,115 --> 00:23:04,851 and come up with really crazy stuff. 541 00:23:04,884 --> 00:23:06,318 Yeah, just look at Chewbacca. 542 00:23:06,352 --> 00:23:08,220 Well, I can guarantee you there's no Wookiees in space. 543 00:23:08,254 --> 00:23:10,657 How do you know? [Laughs] 544 00:23:12,258 --> 00:23:15,795 You single-handedly revolutionized science fiction 545 00:23:15,828 --> 00:23:19,832 in pop culture with "Star Wars," 1977. 546 00:23:19,866 --> 00:23:23,069 'Cause it had been three decades of downer stuff -- 547 00:23:23,102 --> 00:23:26,405 dystopian stuff, apocalyptic stuff, 548 00:23:26,439 --> 00:23:28,407 and science fiction was making less and less 549 00:23:28,441 --> 00:23:30,342 and less money every year and then, all of a sudden, 550 00:23:30,376 --> 00:23:32,912 you came along with another vision. 551 00:23:32,945 --> 00:23:36,683 One of wonder and hope and empowerment, 552 00:23:36,716 --> 00:23:37,950 and boom! 553 00:23:37,984 --> 00:23:39,719 "Star Wars" is a space opera. 554 00:23:39,752 --> 00:23:41,788 It's not science fiction. 555 00:23:41,821 --> 00:23:45,191 And because it's really just, you know, 556 00:23:45,224 --> 00:23:47,393 one of those soap operas, only in space. 557 00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:49,228 Yeah, but it's more than that. Well... 558 00:23:49,261 --> 00:23:50,897 And you know -- and you know it is. All right, all right. 559 00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:52,465 It's -- It's a neo-myth. 560 00:23:52,499 --> 00:23:54,300 But it's -- yeah, yes. It fulfills the role 561 00:23:54,333 --> 00:23:55,968 that myth played in society. 562 00:23:56,002 --> 00:23:57,169 Yeah, it is. It's mythology. 563 00:23:57,203 --> 00:23:59,071 But you took it to a new level. 564 00:23:59,105 --> 00:24:03,910 No film that I can think of had the used future idea. 565 00:24:03,943 --> 00:24:06,212 The future was always shiny, it was always perfect, 566 00:24:06,245 --> 00:24:09,148 it always had just been unwrapped on Christmas morning 567 00:24:09,181 --> 00:24:11,951 'cause it was kind of this optimistic ideal. 568 00:24:11,984 --> 00:24:14,721 And you said, "No, the future has to have been lived in 569 00:24:14,754 --> 00:24:16,055 for thousands of years," 570 00:24:16,088 --> 00:24:18,090 so the Sandcrawlers are all rusted 571 00:24:18,124 --> 00:24:19,826 and things are kind of broken 572 00:24:19,859 --> 00:24:22,228 and it looked like it had been lived in. 573 00:24:22,261 --> 00:24:23,796 So where did that idea come from? 574 00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:25,331 'Cause there was no precursor to that. 575 00:24:25,364 --> 00:24:29,368 I just felt that it's gotta look like it's a real place. 576 00:24:29,401 --> 00:24:32,505 Singer: The transition from the science-fiction space travel 577 00:24:32,539 --> 00:24:34,907 of the '60s to the '70s -- Aggh! 578 00:24:34,941 --> 00:24:39,245 it probably reflects a wider shift in culture at that time, 579 00:24:39,278 --> 00:24:41,347 the sort of general cynicism of the '70s 580 00:24:41,380 --> 00:24:44,250 has kind of infected this vision of the future 581 00:24:44,283 --> 00:24:46,819 and it's like, "Okay, if we get into outer space, 582 00:24:46,853 --> 00:24:48,154 probably giant corporations 583 00:24:48,187 --> 00:24:49,856 are still gonna be running everything." 584 00:24:49,889 --> 00:24:52,458 And that's when you get to movies like "Alien." 585 00:24:52,491 --> 00:24:55,027 [Rumbling] 586 00:24:55,061 --> 00:24:56,328 Where you have a spacecraft 587 00:24:56,362 --> 00:24:59,331 that looks like it's been through the mill. 588 00:24:59,365 --> 00:25:04,136 Things are leaking, steam's running out of broken pipes, 589 00:25:04,170 --> 00:25:05,371 it's grimy, 590 00:25:05,404 --> 00:25:07,807 and the place is a mess. 591 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,508 Look, I'm not gonna do any more work 592 00:25:09,542 --> 00:25:11,510 till we get this straightened out. 593 00:25:11,544 --> 00:25:16,315 Grant, you're guaranteed by law to get a share. 594 00:25:16,348 --> 00:25:18,217 Weaver: And it's, I think, no accident 595 00:25:18,250 --> 00:25:20,553 that, in a lot of these films, 596 00:25:20,587 --> 00:25:23,289 it's the military-industrial complex 597 00:25:23,322 --> 00:25:25,457 that are the real monster in space. 598 00:25:25,491 --> 00:25:26,893 Bellows: This could cause trouble for us 599 00:25:26,926 --> 00:25:28,795 on all the other mining operations. 600 00:25:28,828 --> 00:25:31,130 That could put my people out of business. 601 00:25:31,163 --> 00:25:34,366 Don't worry. He's a dead man. 602 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,369 From the moment that humans set off to lands 603 00:25:37,403 --> 00:25:40,306 that they'd never been to before, immediately what follows 604 00:25:40,339 --> 00:25:43,209 that is you see all of the normal human problems 605 00:25:43,242 --> 00:25:47,413 that we have in societies transposed to other worlds. 606 00:25:47,446 --> 00:25:49,982 Wolfe: Which means you're going to have labor problems. 607 00:25:50,016 --> 00:25:53,419 You're going to have hazardous environments for workers. 608 00:25:53,452 --> 00:25:55,021 You're going to have all kinds of things 609 00:25:55,054 --> 00:25:56,422 that reflect what might be 610 00:25:56,455 --> 00:25:59,158 the reality of outer-space exploration. 611 00:25:59,191 --> 00:26:02,194 At some point, corporations are going to have to get involved. 612 00:26:02,228 --> 00:26:03,529 At some point, maybe the government 613 00:26:03,562 --> 00:26:05,231 will have to take over, 614 00:26:05,264 --> 00:26:08,500 and lead to something like a militarized society 615 00:26:08,534 --> 00:26:10,302 like "Starship Troopers." 616 00:26:10,336 --> 00:26:13,205 Man: We break net now and take you live to Klendathu 617 00:26:13,239 --> 00:26:15,074 where the invasion has begun. 618 00:26:15,107 --> 00:26:18,110 It's an ugly planet, a bug planet. 619 00:26:18,144 --> 00:26:20,079 [Arachnid snarls] 620 00:26:20,112 --> 00:26:22,081 Aaaah! 621 00:26:22,114 --> 00:26:24,316 Neumeier: When Paul Verhoeven and I were talking one day, 622 00:26:24,350 --> 00:26:26,152 "What movies would we like to make?" 623 00:26:26,185 --> 00:26:27,987 He said, "Well, I-I've always wanted to do a movie about, 624 00:26:28,020 --> 00:26:29,521 like, what it was like to be, you know, 625 00:26:29,555 --> 00:26:33,092 15 years old in Nazi Germany in 1935 626 00:26:33,125 --> 00:26:35,261 when nobody knew it was bad yet." 627 00:26:35,294 --> 00:26:37,463 It was a pretty interesting idea. 628 00:26:37,496 --> 00:26:39,331 Verhoeven: [Dutch accent] It came to me the idea, 629 00:26:39,365 --> 00:26:41,200 based on being a young boy 630 00:26:41,233 --> 00:26:42,869 when I was occupied by the Germans, 631 00:26:42,902 --> 00:26:44,470 of course, in -- in Holland, which -- 632 00:26:44,503 --> 00:26:46,372 which was fascist, clearly. 633 00:26:46,405 --> 00:26:48,140 Or Nazis, whatever you want to call it. 634 00:26:48,174 --> 00:26:49,441 I said -- I remember saying to him, 635 00:26:49,475 --> 00:26:51,077 "Well, they won't let us do that." 636 00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:53,179 But then I thought, "Oh, 'Starship Troopers.' 637 00:26:53,212 --> 00:26:55,447 We can do that." 638 00:26:55,481 --> 00:27:00,286 Based on the book by Robert Heinlein. 639 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:02,655 Really is a -- kind of a political tract 640 00:27:02,689 --> 00:27:06,492 and fairly conservative political tract where he said, 641 00:27:06,525 --> 00:27:08,494 "If people who had been in the military ran the world, 642 00:27:08,527 --> 00:27:10,196 it would be fair and right." 643 00:27:10,229 --> 00:27:14,266 He really felt that the kind of mentality 644 00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:17,603 that was encouraged in the U.S. Army 645 00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:22,809 was extremely important for making boys into men. 646 00:27:24,711 --> 00:27:27,146 Yaszek: "Starship Troopers" is an important science-fiction movie 647 00:27:27,179 --> 00:27:28,514 because it's one of the few movies 648 00:27:28,547 --> 00:27:31,183 that warns us that humans may bring 649 00:27:31,217 --> 00:27:33,085 the worst of themselves into space 650 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,653 rather than the best of themselves. 651 00:27:34,687 --> 00:27:36,222 Burn 'em all! 652 00:27:36,255 --> 00:27:38,157 [Arachnids screeching] 653 00:27:38,190 --> 00:27:43,996 We really tried to bring in a level of criticism 654 00:27:44,030 --> 00:27:46,532 about what these people are doing, 655 00:27:46,565 --> 00:27:48,701 especially in the newsreels, 656 00:27:48,735 --> 00:27:51,704 continuously telling to the audience, 657 00:27:51,738 --> 00:27:53,172 "You like these people. 658 00:27:53,205 --> 00:27:55,274 These are your heroes and heroines. 659 00:27:55,307 --> 00:27:56,608 By the way, 660 00:27:56,642 --> 00:27:59,178 they're probably fascist." 661 00:27:59,211 --> 00:28:00,412 Nicholson: And what's fascinating 662 00:28:00,446 --> 00:28:02,581 about these patriotic newsreels -- 663 00:28:02,614 --> 00:28:04,984 they're very shot-for-shot similar 664 00:28:05,017 --> 00:28:06,485 to "Triumph of the Will." 665 00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:10,389 [Nazis chanting] 666 00:28:10,422 --> 00:28:14,193 ** 667 00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:16,095 [Speaks German] 668 00:28:16,128 --> 00:28:19,198 It's this galaxy now and always! 669 00:28:19,231 --> 00:28:23,469 The movie I wanted to do was a movie about war and propaganda 670 00:28:23,502 --> 00:28:29,175 and why we go to war and what happens to us when we do, 671 00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:30,476 but I wanted to tell it, you know, 672 00:28:30,509 --> 00:28:33,212 almost like a 1950s B-movie. 673 00:28:33,245 --> 00:28:36,615 "Starship Troopers" is Troy Donahue and Sandra Dee 674 00:28:36,648 --> 00:28:39,351 go to outer space, fight giant bugs, 675 00:28:39,385 --> 00:28:42,654 and become Nazis was my kind of logline. 676 00:28:42,688 --> 00:28:44,323 Kill them! Kill them all! 677 00:28:44,356 --> 00:28:46,225 [Gunfire] 678 00:28:46,258 --> 00:28:48,761 The story of humankind is exploration 679 00:28:48,795 --> 00:28:53,232 is followed by colonialization and exploitation, 680 00:28:53,265 --> 00:28:54,566 so we've always done this. 681 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,435 He figured that he could get an alien 682 00:28:56,468 --> 00:28:58,670 back through quarantine 683 00:28:58,704 --> 00:29:01,573 if one of us was impregnated. 684 00:29:01,607 --> 00:29:04,243 I don't know which species is worse. 685 00:29:04,276 --> 00:29:06,078 You don't see them (bleep) each other over 686 00:29:06,112 --> 00:29:07,479 for a (no audio) damn percentage. 687 00:29:07,513 --> 00:29:09,515 And I think what you see in science fiction is, 688 00:29:09,548 --> 00:29:11,517 as we reach out into the universe, 689 00:29:11,550 --> 00:29:14,620 we take all of our baggage with us. 690 00:29:18,290 --> 00:29:20,559 My parents thought that television -- 691 00:29:20,592 --> 00:29:22,294 and this is back in the early '50s... 692 00:29:22,328 --> 00:29:24,330 Yeah? ...was the worst influence, 693 00:29:24,363 --> 00:29:26,398 so they prevented me from watching television. 694 00:29:26,432 --> 00:29:28,534 I could only watch, like, Jackie Gleason, 695 00:29:28,567 --> 00:29:30,236 "The Honeymooners." Yeah, right. 696 00:29:30,269 --> 00:29:33,672 And so I started to imagine my own shows. 697 00:29:33,705 --> 00:29:36,042 I couldn't watch television, I would just dream up something 698 00:29:36,075 --> 00:29:37,409 for myself to enjoy. Yeah. 699 00:29:37,443 --> 00:29:40,279 And that's what kids do when they're exercising 700 00:29:40,312 --> 00:29:41,513 their natural ability 701 00:29:41,547 --> 00:29:43,549 to create worlds that don't exist. 702 00:29:43,582 --> 00:29:45,784 I mean, I remember when I saw "Mysterious Island," 703 00:29:45,818 --> 00:29:47,386 uh, in -- in the third grade. 704 00:29:47,419 --> 00:29:49,655 I raced home and started doing my own version 705 00:29:49,688 --> 00:29:51,190 of "Mysterious Island." Yeah, yeah. 706 00:29:51,223 --> 00:29:53,092 So I think that's the creative impulse. 707 00:29:53,125 --> 00:29:54,393 You take it in. Y-- 708 00:29:54,426 --> 00:29:56,395 I don't wanna copy it in a slavish fan way. 709 00:29:56,428 --> 00:29:58,130 Yes. I wanna create my own version of it. 710 00:29:58,164 --> 00:30:00,066 It was -- it always had to do with a pencil 711 00:30:00,099 --> 00:30:01,700 and a piece of paper and, of course, later, 712 00:30:01,733 --> 00:30:03,202 the 8-millimeter movie camera. 713 00:30:03,235 --> 00:30:06,305 But you were processing the world back out 714 00:30:06,338 --> 00:30:09,075 in the form of something visual. Exactly. 715 00:30:09,108 --> 00:30:10,509 That -- that -- that -- that's a blast 716 00:30:10,542 --> 00:30:12,278 'cause, you know, you do the same thing. 717 00:30:12,311 --> 00:30:14,580 When I sit down to storyboard, I come up with my best ideas 718 00:30:14,613 --> 00:30:16,748 in the process of making my sketches. Mm-hmm. 719 00:30:16,782 --> 00:30:18,417 I mean, ideas that weren't even in the script 720 00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:20,452 and weren't even in my imagination... Right. 721 00:30:20,486 --> 00:30:23,155 ...will come out as I'm actually drawing. 722 00:30:23,189 --> 00:30:29,761 ** 723 00:30:29,795 --> 00:30:33,265 The science-fiction artists are often overlooked 724 00:30:33,299 --> 00:30:34,566 in the history of science fiction. 725 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,604 ** 726 00:30:38,637 --> 00:30:41,407 But artists have influenced authors 727 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,641 in their own right because they're -- 728 00:30:42,674 --> 00:30:44,776 you know, they're bringing their ideas 729 00:30:44,810 --> 00:30:49,882 and characters to life visually. 730 00:30:49,916 --> 00:30:51,517 But you think back to everything you 731 00:30:51,550 --> 00:30:54,286 probably have visualized about science fiction, 732 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,688 you're probably going back to what a science-fiction artist 733 00:30:56,722 --> 00:30:59,558 has done. 734 00:30:59,591 --> 00:31:02,461 Chesley Bonestell is considered the father of space art 735 00:31:02,494 --> 00:31:04,630 or astronomic art. 736 00:31:04,663 --> 00:31:07,266 He started producing in the 1940s. 737 00:31:07,299 --> 00:31:12,371 These paintings that were extraordinarily realistic. 738 00:31:12,404 --> 00:31:15,908 You'll find, even today, astronomers, astronauts, 739 00:31:15,942 --> 00:31:18,644 astrophysicists, engineers who will say that, 740 00:31:18,677 --> 00:31:20,746 you know, they got into doing what they're doing 741 00:31:20,779 --> 00:31:23,849 because, as kids, they were inspired by Chesley Bonestell. 742 00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:26,685 ** 743 00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:28,887 Taylor: The great advantage of science fiction 744 00:31:28,921 --> 00:31:33,292 is that you can draw anything on this vast canvas of space. 745 00:31:33,325 --> 00:31:34,826 It's all open, you know, 746 00:31:34,860 --> 00:31:37,363 for you to throw your own imagination in. 747 00:31:37,396 --> 00:31:39,598 Jemisin: With world-building, you are creating 748 00:31:39,631 --> 00:31:41,400 a society from scratch, 749 00:31:41,433 --> 00:31:44,270 a planet from scratch, a people from scratch. 750 00:31:44,303 --> 00:31:47,273 They may not look like people like you or me, 751 00:31:47,306 --> 00:31:50,809 but they are people. 752 00:31:50,842 --> 00:31:53,312 Frommer: Every plant that you see 753 00:31:53,345 --> 00:31:55,948 in that remarkable forest on Pandora -- 754 00:31:55,982 --> 00:31:58,450 even if you see it for half a second, 755 00:31:58,484 --> 00:32:00,953 has an English name, 756 00:32:00,987 --> 00:32:03,555 a Latin name, a Na'vi name, 757 00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:07,393 and probably a two-page description on its ecology, 758 00:32:07,426 --> 00:32:10,562 on how it reproduces, on how it's used by the Na'vi. 759 00:32:10,596 --> 00:32:13,232 So if you're gonna go into that much detail, 760 00:32:13,265 --> 00:32:14,600 then you're not gonna skimp on the language. 761 00:32:14,633 --> 00:32:17,769 [Speaking Na'vi] 762 00:32:17,803 --> 00:32:19,338 You've got to make sure that everything 763 00:32:19,371 --> 00:32:20,639 really holds together. 764 00:32:20,672 --> 00:32:24,543 [Speaking Divine Language] 765 00:32:24,576 --> 00:32:25,711 Besson: [French accent] And the language I wrote it, 766 00:32:25,744 --> 00:32:28,380 it's like 400 words. 767 00:32:28,414 --> 00:32:29,848 And I make a little dictionary. 768 00:32:29,881 --> 00:32:32,418 And that was interesting because the only two person 769 00:32:32,451 --> 00:32:34,353 who can speak the language at the time was -- 770 00:32:34,386 --> 00:32:35,787 was Milla and me. 771 00:32:35,821 --> 00:32:39,791 We were kind of fluent after a couple of weeks. 772 00:32:39,825 --> 00:32:41,460 What is your name? 773 00:32:41,493 --> 00:32:44,830 [Speaks Divine Language] 774 00:32:44,863 --> 00:32:48,900 That's her name. [Laughs] 775 00:32:48,934 --> 00:32:50,736 I think there's like a first, middle, 776 00:32:50,769 --> 00:32:52,804 and last somewhere in there. [Chuckles] 777 00:32:52,838 --> 00:32:55,474 Don't ask me which. 778 00:32:55,507 --> 00:32:57,876 Working with Luc Besson, who wrote and directed 779 00:32:57,909 --> 00:33:00,512 "Fifth Element" -- it changed my life. 780 00:33:00,546 --> 00:33:03,249 Just seemed so realistic to me, 781 00:33:03,282 --> 00:33:04,983 which I was really impressed by. 782 00:33:05,017 --> 00:33:07,886 It's the white page that you can write everything. 783 00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:12,391 You can make everything beautiful again in space. 784 00:33:12,424 --> 00:33:13,992 I like the fantasy of it. 785 00:33:14,026 --> 00:33:17,796 I, like, just take a subject, like the law, 786 00:33:17,829 --> 00:33:19,865 uh, the police, the food. 787 00:33:19,898 --> 00:33:22,368 Good fortune for you. 788 00:33:22,401 --> 00:33:26,772 And then I start writing, you know, 10, 15 pages on each. 789 00:33:26,805 --> 00:33:28,340 And then you give that to the actors 790 00:33:28,374 --> 00:33:31,777 and it gives some life and polish on the story, 791 00:33:31,810 --> 00:33:34,513 even if you never talk about it. 792 00:33:34,546 --> 00:33:37,783 Science fiction is probably the best way to open your mind 793 00:33:37,816 --> 00:33:39,017 about everything, 794 00:33:39,051 --> 00:33:42,988 and sci-fi is just an oil 795 00:33:43,021 --> 00:33:45,424 so the doors open easier. 796 00:33:45,457 --> 00:33:47,493 It doesn't like [Imitates door squeaking] 797 00:33:47,526 --> 00:33:49,961 So hard to push. 798 00:33:49,995 --> 00:33:53,399 Space is the biggest canvas to write whatever you want 799 00:33:53,432 --> 00:33:56,368 and to push all the limits because, by definition, 800 00:33:56,402 --> 00:33:58,804 future doesn't have a limit. 801 00:33:58,837 --> 00:34:01,873 Or if there is one, we don't know it. 802 00:34:01,907 --> 00:34:04,943 [Chuckles] 803 00:34:04,976 --> 00:34:07,379 Gunn: When I was eight or nine years old, 804 00:34:07,413 --> 00:34:11,517 I was obsessed with creating different planets, 805 00:34:11,550 --> 00:34:14,586 creating these worlds and these universes and -- 806 00:34:14,620 --> 00:34:17,689 and building them up from the ground, even at that young age. 807 00:34:17,723 --> 00:34:21,327 And I wrote up the visuals of "Guardians of the Galaxy." 808 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,963 Hundreds of pages of documents with the different cultures 809 00:34:24,996 --> 00:34:26,965 and what they do and how do they think. 810 00:34:26,998 --> 00:34:29,568 ** 811 00:34:29,601 --> 00:34:34,640 We are creating a world in outer space based on real rules 812 00:34:34,673 --> 00:34:38,644 that is still filled with imagination and fantasy. 813 00:34:38,677 --> 00:34:41,613 Oh, yeah. 814 00:34:41,647 --> 00:34:44,683 Yeah! [Gunfire] 815 00:34:44,716 --> 00:34:46,752 When you're dealing with a raccoon and a tree, 816 00:34:46,785 --> 00:34:48,787 you are, in some ways, dealing with space fantasy, 817 00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:53,992 but, within that, let's say there is a talking raccoon. 818 00:34:54,025 --> 00:34:55,127 What would it be? 819 00:34:55,161 --> 00:34:56,595 And how would it be? 820 00:34:56,628 --> 00:34:58,830 And I came up with Rocket Raccoon 821 00:34:58,864 --> 00:35:01,900 is a result of experiments on his body 822 00:35:01,933 --> 00:35:05,604 to turn him into something that's designed to kill. 823 00:35:05,637 --> 00:35:08,140 Ain't no thing like me except me. 824 00:35:08,174 --> 00:35:10,108 I am Groot. 825 00:35:10,142 --> 00:35:11,477 Yeah, you said that. 826 00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:13,412 Groot's the most popular character 827 00:35:13,445 --> 00:35:15,147 from "Guardians of the Galaxy." 828 00:35:15,181 --> 00:35:17,916 He's probably the soul of the movie. 829 00:35:17,949 --> 00:35:19,518 I mean, I remember like it was yesterday. 830 00:35:19,551 --> 00:35:21,687 We were getting ready to shoot this scene 831 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:24,856 where Groot grows into sort of like this nest 832 00:35:24,890 --> 00:35:26,892 and protects us from this impact 833 00:35:26,925 --> 00:35:31,029 that was just going to completely kill us. 834 00:35:31,062 --> 00:35:34,065 That day when we're shooting that scene, that -- 835 00:35:34,099 --> 00:35:36,868 we couldn't stop crying. 836 00:35:36,902 --> 00:35:39,605 This character that doesn't even exist, 837 00:35:39,638 --> 00:35:44,576 but risking his life for mine, was very moving. 838 00:35:44,610 --> 00:35:46,044 Wh-Why are you doing this? 839 00:35:46,077 --> 00:35:48,714 Gunn: It's very much of a Christ story. 840 00:35:48,747 --> 00:35:51,082 You have this character who gives his life 841 00:35:51,116 --> 00:35:52,484 and is born again. 842 00:35:52,518 --> 00:35:54,486 We... 843 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,054 are... 844 00:35:56,087 --> 00:35:57,756 Groot. 845 00:35:57,789 --> 00:36:01,026 "We are Groot" is the line of dialogue 846 00:36:01,059 --> 00:36:04,663 that every single other thing in the movie is hanging on. 847 00:36:04,696 --> 00:36:07,833 It's about seeing a raccoon and a human being 848 00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:10,769 and a green assassin and a big oaf, 849 00:36:10,802 --> 00:36:13,705 and they find a family with each other for the first time. 850 00:36:13,739 --> 00:36:14,973 An outer-space family. 851 00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:16,542 That's what makes it science fiction, 852 00:36:16,575 --> 00:36:18,143 is that it's an outer-space family. 853 00:36:20,212 --> 00:36:23,815 Woman: Today, it is you who will learn the power of Mars. 854 00:36:23,849 --> 00:36:26,685 Tomorrow, it will be the whole world. 855 00:36:26,718 --> 00:36:29,555 You're dreaming. Is it about Mars? 856 00:36:29,588 --> 00:36:31,056 Man: The angry red planet. 857 00:36:31,089 --> 00:36:33,058 We're heading straight for Mars. 858 00:36:33,091 --> 00:36:35,661 Ooh, Mars is burning up. 859 00:36:35,694 --> 00:36:38,530 Good God. I'm on Mars. 860 00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:42,033 Rutherford: 50 years ago, space is 861 00:36:42,067 --> 00:36:44,770 an extraordinarily hostile environment 862 00:36:44,803 --> 00:36:46,705 and then we go through the trajectory of science fiction, 863 00:36:46,738 --> 00:36:49,975 which includes exploring the rest of the universe. 864 00:36:50,008 --> 00:36:52,244 But the solar system is now very much within our reach. 865 00:36:52,278 --> 00:36:56,248 The closest Mars ever gets to us is 36 million miles, 866 00:36:56,282 --> 00:36:59,217 which doesn't seem so huge when you think about light-years. 867 00:36:59,251 --> 00:37:03,054 It's a tiny distance by comparison. 868 00:37:03,088 --> 00:37:06,525 Stories like "The Martian" make us believe 869 00:37:06,558 --> 00:37:10,128 that we can and will do this in our own lifetime. 870 00:37:10,161 --> 00:37:13,732 I gotta figure out a way to grow three years' 871 00:37:13,765 --> 00:37:15,967 worth of food here. 872 00:37:16,001 --> 00:37:18,103 On a planet where nothing grows. 873 00:37:18,136 --> 00:37:20,972 In "The Martian," what you see is a smart person 874 00:37:21,006 --> 00:37:23,141 actually acting smart. 875 00:37:23,174 --> 00:37:25,143 Using his brain to solve problems, 876 00:37:25,176 --> 00:37:27,779 instead of a lightsaber or a ray gun. 877 00:37:27,813 --> 00:37:30,582 They say that, once you grow crops somewhere, 878 00:37:30,616 --> 00:37:33,051 you've officially colonized it. 879 00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:36,288 So, technically, 880 00:37:36,322 --> 00:37:38,624 I colonized Mars. 881 00:37:38,657 --> 00:37:40,091 One of the other great things 882 00:37:40,125 --> 00:37:42,093 that Andy Weir's "The Martian" does 883 00:37:42,127 --> 00:37:43,662 is make the experience 884 00:37:43,695 --> 00:37:47,065 seem like an everyday experience, almost. 885 00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:50,836 You can see yourself as Mark Watney. 886 00:37:50,869 --> 00:37:52,237 He doesn't power through problems 887 00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:53,705 without hitting a hitch. 888 00:37:53,739 --> 00:37:55,774 He hits every single hitch there is. 889 00:37:55,807 --> 00:37:58,644 Whoo! 890 00:37:58,677 --> 00:38:01,279 And you get to see him work through them, 891 00:38:01,313 --> 00:38:04,316 and you find yourself thinking, "I could do that." 892 00:38:04,350 --> 00:38:08,053 So, it's inspirational, but it's also just very practical. 893 00:38:08,086 --> 00:38:12,791 I forgot to account for the excess oxygen 894 00:38:12,824 --> 00:38:15,694 that I've been exhaling 895 00:38:15,727 --> 00:38:18,630 when I did my calculations 896 00:38:18,664 --> 00:38:20,832 because I'm stupid. 897 00:38:20,866 --> 00:38:24,570 The whole story is just one prolonged cascade failure. 898 00:38:24,603 --> 00:38:27,272 Basically, his solution to this immediate problem 899 00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:31,977 leads to the next problem and the next and the next and so on. 900 00:38:32,010 --> 00:38:34,613 I would say that the problem-solving style 901 00:38:34,646 --> 00:38:36,114 of Arthur Clarke 902 00:38:36,147 --> 00:38:38,249 and also Robert Heinlein influenced 903 00:38:38,283 --> 00:38:39,951 how I wrote "The Martian," 904 00:38:39,985 --> 00:38:42,087 although I would say one of the biggest influences 905 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,889 on "The Martian" was Apollo 13, 906 00:38:43,922 --> 00:38:46,224 both the real event and the movie. 907 00:38:46,257 --> 00:38:47,626 Uh, this is Houston. 908 00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:49,227 Uh, say again, please. 909 00:38:49,260 --> 00:38:52,063 Houston, we have a problem. 910 00:38:52,097 --> 00:38:53,799 Weir: My father is a particle physicist 911 00:38:53,832 --> 00:38:55,667 and my mother is an electrical engineer, 912 00:38:55,701 --> 00:38:59,938 so I was pretty much doomed to be a nerd. 913 00:38:59,971 --> 00:39:03,108 There is one joke where they tell him everything he's typing 914 00:39:03,141 --> 00:39:05,276 is being broadcast live to the entire world. 915 00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:06,978 Yeah? 916 00:39:07,012 --> 00:39:09,247 In the novel, he says, "Look! A pair of boobs!" 917 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,116 and draws, like, these ASCII art boobs -- 918 00:39:11,149 --> 00:39:14,686 that's open parenthesis, period, "Y," period, close parenthesis. 919 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:16,688 They didn't put that in the movie. 920 00:39:16,722 --> 00:39:19,791 They just had everyone and look up and go, "Ohh." 921 00:39:19,825 --> 00:39:21,192 Oh, my God. 922 00:39:21,226 --> 00:39:23,161 As if he'd written something really profane. 923 00:39:25,163 --> 00:39:26,732 In the face of overwhelming odds, 924 00:39:26,765 --> 00:39:29,735 I'm left with only one option. 925 00:39:29,768 --> 00:39:32,904 I'm gonna have to science the (bleep) out of this. 926 00:39:32,938 --> 00:39:35,006 I'm gonna have to science the (bleep) out of this. 927 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,742 Mm-hmm. How -- What does that mean to you? 928 00:39:36,775 --> 00:39:41,713 Well, it equates with his thrill of terror, saying, 929 00:39:41,747 --> 00:39:44,883 "I'm -- I'm either gonna die here or I can survive." 930 00:39:44,916 --> 00:39:49,287 Yep. And so he leans heavily on what I call gallows humor. 931 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,356 Mm-hmm. "I'm not gonna think too much about this. 932 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:53,792 I'm gonna take it day by day, hour by hour." 933 00:39:53,825 --> 00:39:56,027 Yeah. And "I'm gonna have to science the (bleep) out of this" 934 00:39:56,061 --> 00:39:57,763 to get my survival going. 935 00:39:57,796 --> 00:39:59,330 That kinda humor... Yeah. 936 00:39:59,364 --> 00:40:03,034 ...probably keeps in check terror and fear 937 00:40:03,068 --> 00:40:04,703 which will stop him functioning. Right, right. 938 00:40:04,736 --> 00:40:06,037 Do you know what I got out of it? 939 00:40:06,071 --> 00:40:08,874 We're all that guy. Are -- Oh. 940 00:40:08,907 --> 00:40:12,043 That our state right now of affairs on Earth... 941 00:40:12,077 --> 00:40:14,680 Yeah. ...is such that we have no choice 942 00:40:14,713 --> 00:40:16,214 but to "science the (bleep) out of it"... 943 00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:17,749 Correct. ...in order to survive. 944 00:40:17,783 --> 00:40:19,317 That's a good -- The threat's in front of us. 945 00:40:19,350 --> 00:40:21,352 Yes. Our threats that will be solved -- 946 00:40:21,386 --> 00:40:23,121 that are -- that are caused by technology, 947 00:40:23,154 --> 00:40:25,457 for the most part, and they need to be solved by science. 948 00:40:25,491 --> 00:40:27,859 Yes. That's a good point. Yeah? 949 00:40:27,893 --> 00:40:30,361 Rutherford: I think the drive for the realism of "The Martian" 950 00:40:30,395 --> 00:40:33,431 is the fact that we will get to Mars quite soon, 951 00:40:33,465 --> 00:40:36,935 so suddenly it's come right back to our doorstep, 952 00:40:36,968 --> 00:40:38,704 that we now have the technology 953 00:40:38,737 --> 00:40:41,006 and are building the sophisticated means 954 00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:43,909 for getting to Mars and colonizing Mars. 955 00:40:43,942 --> 00:40:46,745 That's why "The Martian" is -- is important 956 00:40:46,778 --> 00:40:48,780 and why it has that realism to it. 957 00:40:48,814 --> 00:40:50,215 Watney: This is space. 958 00:40:50,248 --> 00:40:52,283 It does not cooperate. 959 00:40:52,317 --> 00:40:54,820 At some point, everything's gonna go south 960 00:40:54,853 --> 00:40:57,088 and you're gonna say, "This is it." 961 00:40:57,122 --> 00:40:58,990 Now, you can either accept that, 962 00:40:59,024 --> 00:41:01,259 or you can get to work. 963 00:41:01,292 --> 00:41:05,430 If we don't figure out how to get to Mars and live there 964 00:41:05,463 --> 00:41:07,098 and then build another spaceship 965 00:41:07,132 --> 00:41:08,967 that can go to another solar system... 966 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,936 Yep. ...we're toast. 967 00:41:10,969 --> 00:41:12,437 We're toast. Yeah. In the long term, we are. 968 00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:14,472 And to -- And to say, yeah, we've only got a million years 969 00:41:14,506 --> 00:41:15,807 to figure this out. We better -- 970 00:41:15,841 --> 00:41:17,509 We're way behind schedule here. 971 00:41:17,543 --> 00:41:21,780 [Laughs] So you have to get people to sort of buy into the idea. 972 00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:24,082 And if we didn't have these movies... Yeah. 973 00:41:24,115 --> 00:41:25,483 ...to say, "This is an adventure, 974 00:41:25,517 --> 00:41:27,252 this is really gonna be fun"... Yep. 975 00:41:27,285 --> 00:41:28,386 ...do you think we'd be dumb enough 976 00:41:28,419 --> 00:41:30,388 to go in a spaceship off to Mars 977 00:41:30,421 --> 00:41:32,190 where there's nothing there but a bunch of red dirt? 978 00:41:32,223 --> 00:41:34,492 Yeah. No, it's like the adventure, 979 00:41:34,526 --> 00:41:36,795 the whole idea of it. 980 00:41:36,828 --> 00:41:39,064 We have to do this. 981 00:41:39,097 --> 00:41:41,066 The human race depends on it. 982 00:41:41,099 --> 00:41:42,868 Well, thank you for doing this. 983 00:41:42,901 --> 00:41:46,004 My pleasure. This has been an amazing brain jam. 984 00:41:46,037 --> 00:41:48,006 Yeah, well, this is all I have to do now. 985 00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:50,642 [Laughs] And I don't get to do it very much. 76338

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