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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,105 You know, after months of anticipation, 2 00:00:45,140 --> 00:00:46,590 the US government finally released 3 00:00:46,624 --> 00:00:48,902 their report on UFOs late Friday. 4 00:00:48,937 --> 00:00:51,491 But it didn't answer the question. 5 00:00:51,526 --> 00:00:54,460 What are those mysterious flying objects 6 00:00:54,494 --> 00:00:57,014 spotted by US Military pilots in recent years? 7 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:58,109 I am here to discuss the so-called flying saucers. 8 00:01:58,144 --> 00:02:01,527 We have as of date come to only one firm conclusion, 9 00:02:02,735 --> 00:02:05,565 with respect to this remaining percentage. 10 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,570 And that is that it does not contain any pattern of purpose, 11 00:02:11,778 --> 00:02:14,540 or of consistency that we can relate with - 12 00:02:14,574 --> 00:02:17,543 to any conceivable threat to the United States. 13 00:02:19,234 --> 00:02:23,618 We can say that the recent sightings are in no way connected 14 00:02:23,652 --> 00:02:25,240 with any secret development 15 00:02:25,274 --> 00:02:27,622 by any department of the United States. 16 00:02:31,591 --> 00:02:33,041 Major Keyhoe, 17 00:02:33,075 --> 00:02:36,182 as author of the book, "Flying Saucers Are Real" 18 00:02:36,216 --> 00:02:38,771 what is your opinion of these new sightings 19 00:02:38,805 --> 00:02:40,738 of unidentified objects? 20 00:02:40,739 --> 00:02:42,187 With all due respect to the Air Force, 21 00:02:42,188 --> 00:02:44,052 I believe that some of them will prove to be 22 00:02:44,086 --> 00:02:46,054 of interplanetary origin. 23 00:03:04,900 --> 00:03:06,212 My name is John Ramirez 24 00:03:06,246 --> 00:03:10,009 and I served at CIA from 1984 to 2009. 25 00:03:10,043 --> 00:03:14,013 I had a 25 year career and it culminated 26 00:03:14,047 --> 00:03:16,602 in me receiving the Career Intelligence Medal 27 00:03:16,636 --> 00:03:18,189 for my service. 28 00:03:18,224 --> 00:03:20,399 And I started at CIA 29 00:03:20,433 --> 00:03:23,194 in the Directorate of Science and Technology, 30 00:03:23,229 --> 00:03:25,300 in the signals intelligence field 31 00:03:25,334 --> 00:03:28,717 with the specialty of electronic intelligence. 32 00:03:28,752 --> 00:03:30,339 And later transferred over 33 00:03:30,374 --> 00:03:33,757 to the Directorate of Intelligence, 34 00:03:33,791 --> 00:03:36,967 where I was a Weapons Intelligence Analyst for Russian 35 00:03:37,001 --> 00:03:40,764 and ballistic missile defense systems and radars. 36 00:03:40,798 --> 00:03:44,043 I got interested in UFOs at a very young age. 37 00:03:44,975 --> 00:03:47,702 When I was four-years-old, 38 00:03:47,736 --> 00:03:51,015 I saw through my very first telescope 39 00:03:51,050 --> 00:03:54,950 and I saw the wonders in the skies, the moon, the stars. 40 00:03:54,985 --> 00:03:58,437 And I just felt like that's where my real home was, 41 00:03:58,471 --> 00:04:00,853 that I belonged out there. 42 00:04:00,887 --> 00:04:02,889 And this was before the space program. 43 00:04:02,924 --> 00:04:06,997 So I wasn't really influenced by Project Mercury 44 00:04:07,031 --> 00:04:09,793 and the original seven astronauts of NASA. 45 00:04:09,827 --> 00:04:10,897 This was before then 46 00:04:10,932 --> 00:04:16,144 that I felt like my destiny, my future, even my past 47 00:04:17,110 --> 00:04:19,181 was out in space. 48 00:04:23,116 --> 00:04:25,049 My name is Richard Doty, 49 00:04:25,084 --> 00:04:26,741 I was a counterintelligence officer 50 00:04:26,775 --> 00:04:28,708 for the United States Air Force Office 51 00:04:28,743 --> 00:04:30,848 of Special Investigations. 52 00:04:30,883 --> 00:04:35,888 I served in that role from 1978 until 1988. 53 00:04:36,428 --> 00:04:38,268 During my time as a counterintelligence officer 54 00:04:38,269 --> 00:04:41,928 with the Air Force, I conducted investigations 55 00:04:41,963 --> 00:04:45,967 into the unidentified flying object phenomena. 56 00:04:47,002 --> 00:04:50,005 Before that, of course I had been briefed into the program 57 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,320 and during my time at Kirtland Air Force Base, 58 00:04:54,354 --> 00:04:57,323 I gained access to a special access program, 59 00:04:57,357 --> 00:05:00,153 which dealt with the United States government's 60 00:05:00,188 --> 00:05:05,193 investigation into the UFO and ET phenomenon. 61 00:05:06,228 --> 00:05:10,025 And during that briefing, I learned about Roswell. 62 00:05:10,957 --> 00:05:13,891 The first part of the briefing pertained to how we, 63 00:05:13,926 --> 00:05:15,790 the United States government, 64 00:05:15,824 --> 00:05:17,343 had made our first contact 65 00:05:17,377 --> 00:05:20,864 with an extraterrestrial being and craft. 66 00:05:20,898 --> 00:05:23,280 And that was at Roswell, New Mexico. 67 00:05:23,314 --> 00:05:25,938 What I was told during this briefing 68 00:05:25,972 --> 00:05:28,941 was that two unidentified crafts, 69 00:05:28,975 --> 00:05:32,047 later identified as extraterrestrial crafts, 70 00:05:32,082 --> 00:05:36,120 were flying around New Mexico on a mission, 71 00:05:36,155 --> 00:05:39,158 some type of reconnaissance mission we think, 72 00:05:39,192 --> 00:05:41,022 and they collided. 73 00:05:41,056 --> 00:05:42,989 Now that's a big controversy 74 00:05:43,024 --> 00:05:47,097 because if you stop and think of an alien craft 75 00:05:47,131 --> 00:05:50,894 coming 40 lightiyears away, 76 00:05:50,928 --> 00:05:54,138 and they coming into our atmosphere and they collide, 77 00:05:54,173 --> 00:05:55,899 how can that happen? 78 00:05:58,177 --> 00:05:59,868 During a three year investigation, 79 00:05:59,903 --> 00:06:01,525 I found that many pilots 80 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,804 have described objects of substance at high speed. 81 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,220 One case, pilots reported their plane was buffeted 82 00:06:07,255 --> 00:06:10,292 by an object which passed them at 500 miles an hour. 83 00:06:10,327 --> 00:06:12,053 Obviously this was a solid object 84 00:06:12,087 --> 00:06:14,883 and I believe it was from outer space. 85 00:06:23,133 --> 00:06:25,066 My name is Tom Carey 86 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:29,242 and I'm a native of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. 87 00:06:29,277 --> 00:06:34,282 Somewhere along the line after I was graduated from college 88 00:06:35,455 --> 00:06:38,113 and spent four years in the Air Force, 89 00:06:39,114 --> 00:06:43,429 I became re-interested in the subject of UFOs 90 00:06:43,463 --> 00:06:47,882 because I had heard something about a incident 91 00:06:49,331 --> 00:06:51,264 called the Roswell incident. 92 00:06:51,299 --> 00:06:56,166 And I read the book and it just blew me away. 93 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,272 So to become active in the field, 94 00:06:59,307 --> 00:07:04,070 I joined MUFON, the Mutual UFO Network, 95 00:07:04,105 --> 00:07:07,556 just to receive their monthly journal that they print. 96 00:07:07,591 --> 00:07:09,282 Well, the next thing I know, 97 00:07:09,317 --> 00:07:13,286 I'm the state section director for Southeastern Pennsylvania 98 00:07:13,321 --> 00:07:17,290 in charge of investigating local UFO cases. 99 00:07:17,325 --> 00:07:20,086 I wound up investigating local cases 100 00:07:20,121 --> 00:07:23,331 in the Philadelphia area, five county area. 101 00:07:23,365 --> 00:07:26,610 And I learned that there were these two fellas, 102 00:07:26,645 --> 00:07:29,509 Kevin Randall and Donald Schmidt, 103 00:07:29,544 --> 00:07:32,374 were reopening the Roswell case, 104 00:07:32,409 --> 00:07:37,414 which had sort of laid dormant for well, initially 30 years. 105 00:07:38,553 --> 00:07:42,591 It was a two day story back in 1947. 106 00:07:42,626 --> 00:07:45,284 It was a flying saucer, no, it was a weather balloon. 107 00:07:45,318 --> 00:07:46,595 It was a two day story. 108 00:07:46,630 --> 00:07:50,323 And these two fellas Randall and Schmidt 109 00:07:50,358 --> 00:07:52,981 were reopening the Roswell case. 110 00:07:53,913 --> 00:07:57,468 And part of that story was that the crash 111 00:07:57,503 --> 00:08:01,265 was discovered by a group of archeologists 112 00:08:01,300 --> 00:08:03,198 from the University of Pennsylvania. 113 00:08:04,303 --> 00:08:06,961 Well, I have a degree in anthropology, 114 00:08:06,995 --> 00:08:09,239 I'm a trained physical anthropologist, 115 00:08:09,273 --> 00:08:12,483 I went for a doctorate in physical anthropology. 116 00:08:12,518 --> 00:08:15,417 That's how I became a, quote unquote, 117 00:08:15,452 --> 00:08:17,661 active investigator on the case. 118 00:08:17,696 --> 00:08:20,353 'Cause this is like 1991 now. 119 00:08:20,388 --> 00:08:22,286 So I joined the Randall and Schmidt team 120 00:08:22,321 --> 00:08:25,289 looking for the archeologists. 121 00:08:25,324 --> 00:08:28,637 And since then I've expanded my interest in the case 122 00:08:28,672 --> 00:08:31,295 and became an investigator, 123 00:08:31,330 --> 00:08:36,335 now 31 years on this one case, the Roswell case, 124 00:08:37,129 --> 00:08:40,270 and we have found over 600 witnesses, 125 00:08:40,304 --> 00:08:42,375 first and secondhand on the case. 126 00:08:42,410 --> 00:08:47,415 Now during our investigation, we learned many things, 127 00:08:49,037 --> 00:08:53,041 certainly some things about the government involvement 128 00:08:53,076 --> 00:08:55,319 in suppressing this case. 129 00:09:00,393 --> 00:09:04,363 I was hired into the Directorate of Science of Technology 130 00:09:04,397 --> 00:09:08,229 as what is known an ELINT analyst, 131 00:09:08,263 --> 00:09:11,370 or electronic intelligence analyst. 132 00:09:11,404 --> 00:09:13,682 My job was to analyze 133 00:09:13,717 --> 00:09:17,963 the Russian ballistic missile defense system and its radars 134 00:09:17,997 --> 00:09:19,240 associated with that system. 135 00:09:19,274 --> 00:09:23,347 That job then entailed looking at the targets 136 00:09:23,382 --> 00:09:25,729 that the Russians were interested in. 137 00:09:25,764 --> 00:09:29,353 And so through that avenue, 138 00:09:29,388 --> 00:09:34,393 I was able to understand the workings of the Russian radars 139 00:09:35,739 --> 00:09:38,673 designed to look for ballistic missile launches, 140 00:09:38,707 --> 00:09:41,262 designed to look for satellites. 141 00:09:41,296 --> 00:09:45,438 In a course of my work at CIA in that field, 142 00:09:46,750 --> 00:09:49,373 there was a time when the Russians 143 00:09:49,408 --> 00:09:52,273 were very interested in targets 144 00:09:52,307 --> 00:09:56,242 that were not ballistic missiles and not satellites. 145 00:09:56,277 --> 00:09:59,349 They eliminated these two targets, 146 00:09:59,383 --> 00:10:01,178 especially the ballistic missiles, 147 00:10:01,213 --> 00:10:02,766 there was no surprise attack. 148 00:10:02,801 --> 00:10:07,978 However, because they detected objects that were unusual, 149 00:10:08,517 --> 00:10:10,117 they went into a high state of readiness. 150 00:10:10,118 --> 00:10:11,740 Their strategic rocket forces 151 00:10:11,775 --> 00:10:14,709 went into a state of readiness. 152 00:10:14,743 --> 00:10:19,300 Which we then detected and was of a concern to us. 153 00:10:19,334 --> 00:10:20,370 They did stand down 154 00:10:21,785 --> 00:10:24,477 and they did their own analysis of what happened. 155 00:10:25,547 --> 00:10:30,345 And we did our analysis of what the Russians detected 156 00:10:31,381 --> 00:10:33,381 and it appeared that there were objects of interest 157 00:10:33,383 --> 00:10:34,625 to the Russians 158 00:10:36,282 --> 00:10:40,114 that warranted a high state of readiness on their part. 159 00:10:40,148 --> 00:10:41,701 So I wrote a memorandum 160 00:10:41,736 --> 00:10:46,741 for the then Deputy Secretary of Defense, John Deutch, 161 00:10:47,604 --> 00:10:49,330 about these radar systems 162 00:10:49,364 --> 00:10:51,228 going into a high state of readiness 163 00:10:51,263 --> 00:10:53,196 because of objects that they tracked. 164 00:10:54,369 --> 00:10:57,269 And described that they were not satellites 165 00:10:57,303 --> 00:10:59,650 and they were not of course ballistic missiles. 166 00:10:59,685 --> 00:11:04,379 But it could have been a test of the system, 167 00:11:04,414 --> 00:11:07,693 it could have been a training segment 168 00:11:07,727 --> 00:11:11,248 for their personnel running these radar systems. 169 00:11:11,283 --> 00:11:14,286 These are like plausible kind of explanations. 170 00:11:15,218 --> 00:11:17,737 But later I learned that what they detected 171 00:11:17,772 --> 00:11:20,050 were these orbs or objects 172 00:11:21,224 --> 00:11:25,262 that were flying over Russian airspace 173 00:11:25,297 --> 00:11:27,506 from the Arctic Circle. 174 00:11:27,540 --> 00:11:30,405 And so to understand these radar systems 175 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,857 are in the periphery of Russia, 176 00:11:33,892 --> 00:11:36,687 looking for threatening targets. 177 00:11:36,722 --> 00:11:39,380 And when they find a satellite system 178 00:11:39,414 --> 00:11:41,485 and it matches up to a known satellite, 179 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:42,693 they'll drop the target 180 00:11:42,728 --> 00:11:45,351 and keep continuing to scan the horizon. 181 00:11:46,490 --> 00:11:48,423 Well, in this instance, 182 00:11:48,458 --> 00:11:52,151 what popped up over the horizon flew very fast. 183 00:11:52,911 --> 00:11:56,604 And under intelligent control 184 00:11:56,638 --> 00:11:59,365 with intent to go to a destination, 185 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,402 and it was not aircraft, 186 00:12:01,436 --> 00:12:05,268 it was not any kind of missile test. 187 00:12:05,302 --> 00:12:09,548 This prompted the Russians to investigate this even further. 188 00:12:28,877 --> 00:12:30,258 My name's Jesse Peak. 189 00:12:30,293 --> 00:12:31,639 And I'm a MUFON field investigator 190 00:12:31,673 --> 00:12:32,847 in the state of Pennsylvania, 191 00:12:32,881 --> 00:12:34,918 city of Philadelphia, section one. 192 00:12:35,781 --> 00:12:39,474 MUFON is a big worldwide organization 193 00:12:39,509 --> 00:12:41,856 that investigates the UFO phenomenon 194 00:12:41,890 --> 00:12:44,376 to scientifically help humanity. 195 00:12:44,410 --> 00:12:46,619 We've been doing this since 1967 196 00:12:46,654 --> 00:12:49,519 and we have MUFON field investigators worldwide, 197 00:12:49,553 --> 00:12:51,210 not just here in the United States. 198 00:12:51,245 --> 00:12:54,627 And we break down all kinds of different investigations 199 00:12:54,662 --> 00:12:57,837 that are done and reported to us, of UFO sightings, 200 00:12:57,872 --> 00:13:00,461 experiencer reports, abduction reports. 201 00:13:00,495 --> 00:13:02,601 I also work with the ERT team, 202 00:13:02,635 --> 00:13:04,948 which is the Experiencer Resource Team for MUFON. 203 00:13:04,983 --> 00:13:07,537 So if you had an experience, you can report that, 204 00:13:07,538 --> 00:13:09,538 fill out a questionnaire and we'll actually help you 205 00:13:09,539 --> 00:13:11,644 and walk you through in trying to find answers 206 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,543 to what you had in your experience. 207 00:13:13,577 --> 00:13:16,304 So I joined MUFON in 2019, and a big part 208 00:13:16,339 --> 00:13:18,513 of where that field investigator 209 00:13:18,548 --> 00:13:20,274 feeling inside me comes from, 210 00:13:20,308 --> 00:13:21,965 I was actually in the Army National Guard, 211 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,381 so I'm very familiar with chain of command. 212 00:13:24,416 --> 00:13:26,797 I was with 13 Bravo, Artillery County crew member. 213 00:13:26,832 --> 00:13:29,800 I did my time at Oklahoma, Fort Sill. 214 00:13:29,835 --> 00:13:31,216 And I was stationed 215 00:13:31,217 --> 00:13:32,561 in the Pennsylvania National Guard branch 216 00:13:32,562 --> 00:13:34,288 on Southampton Road. 217 00:13:34,322 --> 00:13:36,669 So I'm very familiar with signing NDAs, 218 00:13:36,704 --> 00:13:38,637 non-disclosure agreements, 219 00:13:38,671 --> 00:13:41,709 working with the chain of command like we do in MUFON. 220 00:13:41,743 --> 00:13:44,332 We know that, you know, it's only need to know 221 00:13:44,367 --> 00:13:46,472 sort of situations where, you know, 222 00:13:46,507 --> 00:13:49,958 you don't ask unless you're offered to know. 223 00:13:49,993 --> 00:13:52,547 I've worked with plenty of people in the intelligence field 224 00:13:52,582 --> 00:13:54,963 and people that have worked in the DOD the DIA, 225 00:13:56,965 --> 00:13:59,485 working with them probably on a weekly basis 226 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,832 throughout MUFON, I met a lot of people that way. 227 00:14:01,867 --> 00:14:04,594 I mean, we know that the government can keep secrets 228 00:14:04,628 --> 00:14:05,802 in the intelligence field. 229 00:14:05,836 --> 00:14:07,907 We look back at the Manhattan Project 230 00:14:07,942 --> 00:14:11,049 and that was 130,000 people that worked on that project. 231 00:14:11,083 --> 00:14:14,569 $2 billion of US money went to that project. 232 00:14:14,604 --> 00:14:17,676 And not one of those people leaked that project whatsoever. 233 00:14:17,710 --> 00:14:19,678 So we know that the intelligence community 234 00:14:19,712 --> 00:14:21,300 can keep a secret. 235 00:14:21,335 --> 00:14:23,371 I mean, they had been doing it since Roswell, 236 00:14:23,406 --> 00:14:26,305 I mean, 75 years, 75 plus years 237 00:14:26,340 --> 00:14:28,583 of keeping secrets of this UFO phenomenon. 238 00:14:28,618 --> 00:14:31,724 And just now, recently, we're starting to have people 239 00:14:31,759 --> 00:14:33,312 in the Congress, senators 240 00:14:33,313 --> 00:14:34,588 that are starting to make new amendments, 241 00:14:34,589 --> 00:14:36,764 the Gillibrand-Rubio Amendment, 242 00:14:36,798 --> 00:14:38,662 that's been coming out. 243 00:14:38,697 --> 00:14:40,008 Chris Carson, another senator, 244 00:14:40,043 --> 00:14:42,563 they're all fighting for disclosure to come forward, 245 00:14:42,597 --> 00:14:44,634 to give us this information finally. 246 00:14:44,668 --> 00:14:46,808 And usually NASA falls in line with that, 247 00:14:46,843 --> 00:14:49,432 with the government in not telling these secrets like this, 248 00:14:49,466 --> 00:14:52,538 but now Bill Nelson has been coming out 249 00:14:52,573 --> 00:14:54,609 and his scientists have been pushing 250 00:14:54,644 --> 00:14:57,681 the intelligence community to give them that information, 251 00:14:57,716 --> 00:14:59,856 so we can actually scientifically look at this 252 00:14:59,890 --> 00:15:01,582 the proper way. 253 00:15:01,612 --> 00:15:03,652 The intelligence community knows what they're doing. 254 00:15:03,653 --> 00:15:05,655 They are slowly getting little leaks here, 255 00:15:05,689 --> 00:15:07,622 but can we trust those leaks? 256 00:15:07,623 --> 00:15:08,795 People come out the woodwork saying, 257 00:15:08,796 --> 00:15:10,956 "Yeah, I'm ex-intelligence, I used to do this and that, 258 00:15:10,970 --> 00:15:12,731 worked at the Pentagon." 259 00:15:12,732 --> 00:15:14,904 Even people that say they worked with NASA back in the day, 260 00:15:14,905 --> 00:15:16,562 they come out and they start 261 00:15:16,597 --> 00:15:19,669 disclosing a little bit of information here and there. 262 00:15:19,703 --> 00:15:22,706 But their job was trained to be an intelligence officer, 263 00:15:22,741 --> 00:15:25,468 so they're the best liars trained in the world. 264 00:15:25,502 --> 00:15:28,678 And I know this from being in the military myself. 265 00:15:28,712 --> 00:15:30,404 If we had to say what we had to say 266 00:15:30,438 --> 00:15:33,752 'cause it was gonna be on the books or in a video somewhere, 267 00:15:33,786 --> 00:15:36,651 of course we had to be the ones to go along with it 268 00:15:36,686 --> 00:15:37,806 and say what had to be said, 269 00:15:37,825 --> 00:15:39,620 whether it was the truth or not. 270 00:15:39,654 --> 00:15:41,691 I've seen people do that all the time. 271 00:15:41,725 --> 00:15:44,797 I mean, it happens every day, especially in Congress. 272 00:15:44,832 --> 00:15:47,731 And you see people talking about it, stuff in the Pentagon. 273 00:15:50,424 --> 00:15:51,528 During that timeframe 274 00:15:51,563 --> 00:15:56,533 that the Roswell incident happened in July of 1947, 275 00:15:57,465 --> 00:16:01,676 we had a very serious lightning storm in New Mexico, 276 00:16:02,408 --> 00:16:03,608 in central part of New Mexico. 277 00:16:03,609 --> 00:16:05,611 And anybody that's been in New Mexico 278 00:16:05,646 --> 00:16:08,856 knows that lightning storms can be vicious. 279 00:16:08,890 --> 00:16:11,928 Now these two crafts were flying 280 00:16:11,962 --> 00:16:15,932 in the central part of New Mexico and they collided. 281 00:16:15,966 --> 00:16:20,557 One landed or crashed near Corona, New Mexico. 282 00:16:20,592 --> 00:16:24,906 The other craft crashed west of Socorro near Horse Mesa. 283 00:16:26,529 --> 00:16:29,773 The craft that that landed near Corona, New Mexico 284 00:16:29,808 --> 00:16:32,880 was discovered by an archeological team, 285 00:16:34,951 --> 00:16:37,540 a few hours after the craft crashed. 286 00:16:38,782 --> 00:16:42,821 Now we talk about the debris field 287 00:16:42,855 --> 00:16:46,790 that was found by on the Brazos Ranch. 288 00:16:46,825 --> 00:16:50,035 That debris field was part of the craft 289 00:16:50,069 --> 00:16:52,693 that crashed in Corona, 290 00:16:52,727 --> 00:16:56,835 it was the antenna section of that craft. 291 00:16:56,869 --> 00:17:00,459 But the actual craft was recovered pretty much intact 292 00:17:00,494 --> 00:17:03,082 by the Army Air Force. 293 00:17:03,117 --> 00:17:06,189 And I remember during that time period, 1947, 294 00:17:06,224 --> 00:17:08,087 the United States Air Force didn't exist. 295 00:17:08,122 --> 00:17:12,678 That didn't come into play, not until September of 1947. 296 00:17:12,713 --> 00:17:15,854 But the Army Air Force was responsible 297 00:17:15,888 --> 00:17:20,099 for collecting the debris and the bodies. 298 00:17:20,134 --> 00:17:25,035 The bodies were taken initially to Roswell Army Airfield 299 00:17:25,070 --> 00:17:28,004 and then onto Los Alamos. 300 00:17:28,038 --> 00:17:32,905 One live ET was found in the crash at Corona. 301 00:17:34,907 --> 00:17:38,014 He was given the identification of EBE 302 00:17:38,048 --> 00:17:40,154 or Extraterrestrial Biological Entity. 303 00:17:41,500 --> 00:17:44,192 And he stayed alive from 1947 to 1952 304 00:17:44,227 --> 00:17:46,643 when he died in our captivity. 305 00:17:47,575 --> 00:17:51,061 The second craft crashed out near Horse Mesa, 306 00:17:51,096 --> 00:17:54,720 but that craft wasn't founded until 1949. 307 00:17:54,755 --> 00:17:59,760 A rancher moving his cattle from a lower grazing range 308 00:18:00,761 --> 00:18:03,833 to a higher grazing range, discovered that craft, 309 00:18:03,867 --> 00:18:07,906 in the late fall of 1949. 310 00:18:07,940 --> 00:18:11,875 Now this area of Western New Mexico in Catron County 311 00:18:11,910 --> 00:18:13,670 is extremely remote. 312 00:18:15,258 --> 00:18:16,673 The only people 313 00:18:16,708 --> 00:18:19,262 that would frequent that area would be ranchers. 314 00:18:19,297 --> 00:18:23,301 And this rancher went up there to move his cattle 315 00:18:23,335 --> 00:18:24,923 and discovered the craft. 316 00:18:24,957 --> 00:18:27,270 He had no idea what this craft was. 317 00:18:28,892 --> 00:18:32,137 He eventually contacted the Catron County Sheriffs 318 00:18:33,311 --> 00:18:36,175 some days later, 'cause it took him some days to get away. 319 00:18:36,210 --> 00:18:37,901 It took about five days for the sheriff 320 00:18:37,936 --> 00:18:41,008 to make it out there, to look at the craft 321 00:18:41,042 --> 00:18:43,735 and figured it was something that he couldn't identify. 322 00:18:43,769 --> 00:18:48,636 Immediately they notified the Air Force at Kirtland Field. 323 00:18:48,671 --> 00:18:50,811 They came out, recovered the crash. 324 00:18:50,845 --> 00:18:54,573 Unfortunately all the occupants of the craft 325 00:18:54,608 --> 00:18:57,887 at Horse Mesa were dead, their bodies were deteriorated. 326 00:18:57,921 --> 00:19:02,098 So that's in essence, the basics of the Roswell craft 327 00:19:02,132 --> 00:19:07,137 crash sites that I was told by the United States government. 328 00:19:08,276 --> 00:19:11,141 Now I have no reason to think 329 00:19:11,176 --> 00:19:14,041 that what I was told during that time is not true. 330 00:19:14,075 --> 00:19:18,010 I think everything that that I just stated is factual 331 00:19:18,942 --> 00:19:22,083 by the United States government's knowledge. 332 00:19:28,020 --> 00:19:32,266 So the headline goes out on July the 8th, 1947, 333 00:19:32,300 --> 00:19:34,958 that the Roswell Army Airfield 334 00:19:36,788 --> 00:19:39,929 had recovered a flying saucer. 335 00:19:40,964 --> 00:19:43,622 Well, somewhere along the line, 336 00:19:43,657 --> 00:19:45,797 the government did not like that. 337 00:19:45,831 --> 00:19:49,663 And very quickly they changed the story 338 00:19:49,697 --> 00:19:51,285 to kill it in the press, 339 00:19:51,319 --> 00:19:55,945 that it wasn't a spaceship, but a weather balloon. 340 00:19:55,979 --> 00:19:58,050 Now they would have been better off if they said, 341 00:19:58,085 --> 00:20:01,226 "Well, it was one of our high tech latest fighter jets 342 00:20:01,260 --> 00:20:02,641 that had crashed." 343 00:20:02,676 --> 00:20:04,402 But they said it was a weather balloon. 344 00:20:04,436 --> 00:20:09,614 And so they suppressed the story in the newspaper. 345 00:20:10,856 --> 00:20:12,996 So they took care of the press. 346 00:20:14,653 --> 00:20:18,001 Now what about the airmen at Roswell? 347 00:20:18,036 --> 00:20:22,143 They knew, I mean, the story went around like wildfire 348 00:20:22,178 --> 00:20:25,008 and everybody on the base knew what happened. 349 00:20:25,043 --> 00:20:28,978 So they threatened the airmen, 350 00:20:29,012 --> 00:20:30,980 holding these meetings in their hangers, 351 00:20:31,014 --> 00:20:34,121 "Okay, fellas, you wanna know more about 352 00:20:34,155 --> 00:20:37,055 what you think happened around here?" 353 00:20:37,089 --> 00:20:39,367 "Okay, if you want to read more about it, 354 00:20:39,402 --> 00:20:42,370 you can read about it in Leavenworth Prison." 355 00:20:42,405 --> 00:20:45,857 So they threatened the airmen to keep quiet 356 00:20:45,891 --> 00:20:49,377 or else they'd wind up in Leavenworth. 357 00:20:49,412 --> 00:20:52,070 Now what about the civilians? 358 00:20:52,104 --> 00:20:56,384 What about the civilians that had gotten to the crash site 359 00:20:56,419 --> 00:20:58,110 before the military? 360 00:20:58,145 --> 00:20:59,802 And we know that they did. 361 00:21:03,495 --> 00:21:05,463 Now there was no martial law, 362 00:21:05,497 --> 00:21:08,155 they did not declare martial law. 363 00:21:08,189 --> 00:21:10,813 There was no emergency like, you know, 364 00:21:10,847 --> 00:21:13,022 an invasion or anything like that, 365 00:21:13,056 --> 00:21:17,060 where the Military could take over the town. 366 00:21:17,095 --> 00:21:20,754 But they de facto did take over the town 367 00:21:20,788 --> 00:21:23,032 and they started threatening the witnesses 368 00:21:23,066 --> 00:21:25,759 who knew what had happened, had been to the site, 369 00:21:25,793 --> 00:21:27,105 had seen the crash 370 00:21:27,139 --> 00:21:30,073 and especially had seen the little bodies. 371 00:21:30,108 --> 00:21:32,835 They threatened the civilian population, 372 00:21:32,869 --> 00:21:36,701 and there were a lot of them, with death. 373 00:21:36,735 --> 00:21:38,979 They said, "If you talk about this, 374 00:21:39,013 --> 00:21:41,153 we're not only going to kill you, 375 00:21:41,188 --> 00:21:43,708 we're going to kill your whole family." 376 00:21:52,302 --> 00:21:53,890 My name's Eric Mintel. 377 00:21:53,925 --> 00:21:57,135 I am the founder of Bucks County Paranormal Investigations, 378 00:21:57,169 --> 00:21:59,137 also Eric Mintel Investigates, 379 00:21:59,171 --> 00:22:03,969 and for years there's always been so many great stories 380 00:22:04,004 --> 00:22:07,214 of ghosts, UFOs, everything paranormal, 381 00:22:07,248 --> 00:22:09,216 here in Bucks County and beyond. 382 00:22:09,250 --> 00:22:14,117 And I briefly joined MUFON back in, I think, 2009 383 00:22:15,567 --> 00:22:19,157 when we had a huge UFO flap here in Bucks County in 2008, 384 00:22:19,191 --> 00:22:22,056 with many, many, I mean, thousands of people 385 00:22:22,091 --> 00:22:23,541 were seeing these objects 386 00:22:23,575 --> 00:22:25,301 and a lot of video evidence and whatnot. 387 00:22:25,335 --> 00:22:29,063 So I became a field investigator for a short period of time. 388 00:22:29,098 --> 00:22:33,447 Going back to Roswell, 1947, and you know, 389 00:22:33,481 --> 00:22:37,002 the government's, you know, admission 390 00:22:37,037 --> 00:22:42,042 they found a disk that day in the field 391 00:22:43,146 --> 00:22:44,803 and then right away covered it up. 392 00:22:44,838 --> 00:22:48,531 So I think probably the government, at that time, 393 00:22:48,566 --> 00:22:50,153 didn't wanna cause panic 394 00:22:50,188 --> 00:22:52,155 because look, we had the Cold War, 395 00:22:52,190 --> 00:22:53,881 the Cold War was happening, 396 00:22:53,916 --> 00:22:56,884 and then that just proliferated, you know, 397 00:22:56,919 --> 00:22:58,576 decade after decade. 398 00:22:58,610 --> 00:23:00,508 But what people don't understand 399 00:23:00,543 --> 00:23:03,132 is that sightings were still going on. 400 00:23:03,166 --> 00:23:05,168 They were still happening. 401 00:23:05,203 --> 00:23:07,274 Now so maybe you didn't hear a lot 402 00:23:07,308 --> 00:23:09,172 of what was going on at that point. 403 00:23:09,207 --> 00:23:13,073 But when you've got UFOs flying over Washington, D.C. 404 00:23:13,107 --> 00:23:15,558 over the capital building in 1952, 405 00:23:15,593 --> 00:23:17,215 you can't deny that, that's there. 406 00:23:17,249 --> 00:23:19,182 And they had no idea what it was. 407 00:23:19,217 --> 00:23:21,184 You know, Project Blue Book did the studies 408 00:23:21,219 --> 00:23:23,014 of the UFO reports. 409 00:23:23,048 --> 00:23:27,052 And they think they had like, 17,000 reports 410 00:23:27,087 --> 00:23:30,193 and I think 709 that couldn't be explained. 411 00:23:30,953 --> 00:23:34,059 And probably a lot more than that. 412 00:23:34,094 --> 00:23:36,993 So, you know, I think that the bottom line is, 413 00:23:37,028 --> 00:23:38,857 and even with these Tic Tac UFOs, 414 00:23:38,892 --> 00:23:41,239 they don't know what it is. 415 00:23:41,273 --> 00:23:42,896 Is it causing a threat? 416 00:23:44,276 --> 00:23:46,236 We haven't seen any of that, we haven't seen that. 417 00:23:46,244 --> 00:23:49,523 I mean, I don't know some reports use, 418 00:23:49,557 --> 00:23:51,870 I mean, you get some of the reports 419 00:23:51,871 --> 00:23:53,146 of people that have been, you know, 420 00:23:53,147 --> 00:23:55,253 burned by, you know, the radiation 421 00:23:55,287 --> 00:23:58,359 or they've had some kind of like close contact that way. 422 00:23:58,394 --> 00:24:00,223 But as far as physically, you know, 423 00:24:00,258 --> 00:24:04,469 were destructively doing something with these UFO reports, 424 00:24:04,503 --> 00:24:06,126 I don't think they're a threatening, 425 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,162 I don't think they're a threatening thing. 426 00:24:08,197 --> 00:24:11,234 My opinion is that they're here to monitor us. 427 00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:13,616 They're monitoring us for some thing, 428 00:24:13,651 --> 00:24:15,480 we don't know what that is. 429 00:24:15,514 --> 00:24:17,240 So what is the phenomena? 430 00:24:17,275 --> 00:24:21,106 That's the biggest question that we've all been asking 431 00:24:21,141 --> 00:24:23,937 for millennia, really. 432 00:24:23,971 --> 00:24:28,148 I mean, if you go back to religious times, they're there. 433 00:24:28,182 --> 00:24:30,288 There's a painting of the Madonna holding Jesus 434 00:24:30,322 --> 00:24:32,152 with a guy in the background, 435 00:24:32,186 --> 00:24:34,948 looking at a UFO in the background. 436 00:24:34,982 --> 00:24:37,053 So it's amazing that these things are there, 437 00:24:37,088 --> 00:24:40,160 they are in plain sight of what we're seeing, 438 00:24:40,194 --> 00:24:41,299 they're there every day. 439 00:24:41,333 --> 00:24:43,163 My feeling is the government 440 00:24:43,197 --> 00:24:46,062 just does not know what these are 441 00:24:46,097 --> 00:24:48,547 and they don't know how to approach it. 442 00:24:48,582 --> 00:24:50,342 So that's why they created AATIP, 443 00:24:50,377 --> 00:24:51,516 that's why they're creating 444 00:24:51,550 --> 00:24:53,414 all of these different infrastructures 445 00:24:53,449 --> 00:24:55,140 to deal with this somehow. 446 00:24:55,175 --> 00:24:57,177 But so far, nobody has an answer. 447 00:24:59,420 --> 00:25:01,560 So I'm working on a case now, 448 00:25:01,595 --> 00:25:04,322 going back to the problems people have 449 00:25:04,356 --> 00:25:08,188 after having been abducted or it was a UFO sighting. 450 00:25:08,222 --> 00:25:10,052 And I was sent a picture 451 00:25:10,086 --> 00:25:12,226 and she showed me some puncture wounds 452 00:25:12,261 --> 00:25:14,366 that were left behind on her body, 453 00:25:14,401 --> 00:25:16,265 after having an experience. 454 00:25:16,299 --> 00:25:19,717 Now, we see these a lot with abductees and experiencers, 455 00:25:19,751 --> 00:25:22,478 they get marks on their bodies, some even will get implants. 456 00:25:22,512 --> 00:25:25,343 Dr. Roger Leir was a big part of that, 457 00:25:25,377 --> 00:25:27,966 he helped get these people with implants 458 00:25:28,001 --> 00:25:30,451 that have had experiences and he would remove them. 459 00:25:30,486 --> 00:25:32,971 And we have a lot of data on those as well. 460 00:25:33,006 --> 00:25:36,043 A lot of the times, if you have an object in your body, 461 00:25:36,078 --> 00:25:38,287 you can pull it out and then it'll have a membrane 462 00:25:38,321 --> 00:25:39,633 around the object itself. 463 00:25:39,667 --> 00:25:41,048 And what that membrane does 464 00:25:41,083 --> 00:25:43,119 is it helps the body not reject the object 465 00:25:43,154 --> 00:25:44,949 being placed inside. 466 00:25:44,983 --> 00:25:46,122 Then when you cut that off, 467 00:25:46,157 --> 00:25:49,194 it usually turns down to some type of metal or meteorite 468 00:25:49,229 --> 00:25:50,644 that's being placed in the body. 469 00:25:50,678 --> 00:25:52,370 Now there's been plenty of times 470 00:25:52,404 --> 00:25:55,235 where we've actually taken an EMF reader 471 00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:57,547 or some kind of electrical device, 472 00:25:57,582 --> 00:25:59,308 and put it close to the objects 473 00:25:59,342 --> 00:26:01,379 that are implanted in people, 474 00:26:01,413 --> 00:26:03,622 and it will actually give off readings, 475 00:26:03,657 --> 00:26:07,316 which is, I mean, what does that? We have no idea. 476 00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:10,560 This is just part of the phenomenon that we question. 477 00:26:12,424 --> 00:26:17,084 In 1984, I was assigned to Area 51. 478 00:26:18,396 --> 00:26:20,398 The public would call it Area 51, 479 00:26:20,432 --> 00:26:23,988 it was Groom Lake Complex in Nevada. 480 00:26:24,022 --> 00:26:26,266 I walked into a building 481 00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:30,270 and there was a closed-circuit camera, 482 00:26:30,304 --> 00:26:32,272 a monitor, excuse me, 483 00:26:32,306 --> 00:26:36,414 showing a picture of an ET on the camera. 484 00:26:36,448 --> 00:26:40,556 I asked the agent in the room, "Where is this? 485 00:26:40,590 --> 00:26:41,799 What am I looking at here?" 486 00:26:41,833 --> 00:26:43,421 He said, "This is closed-circuit. 487 00:26:44,456 --> 00:26:47,011 This ET is at another facility." 488 00:26:47,045 --> 00:26:50,393 And I learned later was S2 Annex, it was called. 489 00:26:50,428 --> 00:26:53,396 "And he's getting ready to be interviewed." 490 00:26:54,604 --> 00:26:56,330 And I watched it for about, like I said, 491 00:26:56,331 --> 00:26:57,192 about seven to 10 minutes. 492 00:26:57,193 --> 00:26:59,264 And another officer came in the room 493 00:26:59,299 --> 00:27:01,301 and asked me what I was doing in there. 494 00:27:01,335 --> 00:27:04,476 And I said, "Oh, I came over for another project. 495 00:27:04,511 --> 00:27:05,753 And I see this." 496 00:27:05,754 --> 00:27:07,513 He said, "I don't think you're cleared for it." 497 00:27:07,514 --> 00:27:09,102 So I had to leave. 498 00:27:09,136 --> 00:27:13,313 But in that seven to 10 minutes, I saw a lot of this. 499 00:27:13,347 --> 00:27:16,523 Now the ironic part of this 500 00:27:16,557 --> 00:27:19,319 was there were two intelligence officers 501 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,560 sitting, one on one side of him, 502 00:27:20,561 --> 00:27:22,529 one on the other side of him. 503 00:27:22,563 --> 00:27:27,154 And there was sound in the room, 504 00:27:27,189 --> 00:27:29,501 but there was no word spoken. 505 00:27:29,536 --> 00:27:32,642 Everything was being done, I think by, 506 00:27:32,677 --> 00:27:34,748 we would refer to as telepathy. 507 00:27:34,782 --> 00:27:38,338 But actually the government doesn't consider it that, 508 00:27:38,372 --> 00:27:41,237 they're calling it thought transfers. 509 00:27:43,481 --> 00:27:45,759 People think that we gather together in dark rooms 510 00:27:45,793 --> 00:27:47,278 and talk about UFOs. 511 00:27:48,141 --> 00:27:50,039 So we don't do that at all. 512 00:27:51,213 --> 00:27:54,216 At CIA, there are no UFO accounts, 513 00:27:54,250 --> 00:27:57,875 there are no ET accounts, intelligence accounts 514 00:27:57,909 --> 00:28:00,843 that I was aware of when I served there. 515 00:28:00,878 --> 00:28:03,639 Because of our day to day jobs of what we did 516 00:28:03,673 --> 00:28:05,572 with our regular analysis, 517 00:28:05,606 --> 00:28:08,678 we detected Russian interest in the phenomenon. 518 00:28:08,713 --> 00:28:13,476 And so we do have some sensors that can detect IR, 519 00:28:13,511 --> 00:28:15,202 that's no longer classified, 520 00:28:16,238 --> 00:28:18,447 that is something that you can search for yourself 521 00:28:18,481 --> 00:28:20,449 in FOIA documents, 522 00:28:20,483 --> 00:28:25,350 that certain classes of our surveillance satellites 523 00:28:25,385 --> 00:28:30,390 have IR capabilities, they're electro-optical satellites. 524 00:28:31,425 --> 00:28:35,498 And with these sensors, we also detected orbs as well, 525 00:28:36,154 --> 00:28:37,500 flying over Russian airspace. 526 00:28:38,432 --> 00:28:41,470 And so you might wonder, why not US airspace? 527 00:28:41,504 --> 00:28:44,922 Well, keep in mind that the US intelligence community 528 00:28:44,956 --> 00:28:47,925 does not conduct surveillance. 529 00:28:47,959 --> 00:28:52,377 We do not spy over US territory. 530 00:28:52,412 --> 00:28:56,761 We are a foreign intelligence-focused agency. 531 00:28:56,795 --> 00:29:00,454 So that is why we detected it over Russia. 532 00:29:00,489 --> 00:29:04,493 And so that brought us to thinking, 533 00:29:04,527 --> 00:29:06,564 well, what are these craft? 534 00:29:06,598 --> 00:29:08,669 They're flying extremely fast, 535 00:29:08,704 --> 00:29:10,913 they're flying extremely high, 536 00:29:10,948 --> 00:29:13,640 what could it be, could it be a threat? 537 00:29:13,674 --> 00:29:16,884 So my branch, the ELINT Analysis Branch 538 00:29:16,919 --> 00:29:20,888 was assigned to eliminate, to rule out, what it could be. 539 00:29:20,923 --> 00:29:25,928 We looked at several Russian craft, aircraft that they had, 540 00:29:27,516 --> 00:29:29,276 which could fit the bill. 541 00:29:30,484 --> 00:29:33,246 There's the MiG-29 and as the MiG-31. 542 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,800 These two are interceptors, 543 00:29:35,834 --> 00:29:39,148 they're designed to fly straight up into the sky 544 00:29:40,322 --> 00:29:42,496 and then shoot down something below them. 545 00:29:42,531 --> 00:29:47,536 So we eliminated those MiG-29s and MiG-31s. 546 00:29:48,537 --> 00:29:50,642 They carried something called stealth generator. 547 00:29:50,677 --> 00:29:53,680 The stealth generator could have created 548 00:29:53,714 --> 00:29:58,340 something like an orb like appearance to an IR sensor. 549 00:29:58,374 --> 00:30:02,413 But these craft were flying much higher 550 00:30:02,447 --> 00:30:07,452 than the 123,000 foot world record altitude 551 00:30:08,108 --> 00:30:10,455 set by the MiG-31, for example. 552 00:30:10,490 --> 00:30:12,561 So we eliminated that. 553 00:30:12,595 --> 00:30:15,978 Subject matter experts were then called together 554 00:30:16,013 --> 00:30:17,842 at each of these agencies 555 00:30:17,876 --> 00:30:20,362 by the agency that detected 556 00:30:20,396 --> 00:30:22,605 the presence of these orbs in our sensors. 557 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,609 That agency was the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. 558 00:30:26,644 --> 00:30:30,751 So what they did was they eliminated the fact 559 00:30:32,339 --> 00:30:34,548 that they were Russian aircraft. 560 00:30:34,583 --> 00:30:39,588 And so they went to the NRO and tried to then find out 561 00:30:41,693 --> 00:30:45,490 if there was any kind of glitches in the satellite. 562 00:30:45,525 --> 00:30:47,734 NRO, who's responsible for the care 563 00:30:47,768 --> 00:30:51,531 and feeding of these satellites came with the report, 564 00:30:51,565 --> 00:30:53,533 no, there was nothing wrong with the satellites. 565 00:30:53,567 --> 00:30:57,502 NGA also eliminated any of the ground software 566 00:30:57,537 --> 00:30:59,953 that may have been processing these images 567 00:30:59,987 --> 00:31:02,956 and, no, there are no glitches in the software. 568 00:31:02,990 --> 00:31:06,994 And so the NGA and NRO would need to get together 569 00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:10,826 and discover exactly what are these objects 570 00:31:10,860 --> 00:31:13,553 in the frames of electro-optical imagery 571 00:31:13,587 --> 00:31:15,555 that they've detected? 572 00:31:15,589 --> 00:31:17,867 They gather together these subject matter experts 573 00:31:17,902 --> 00:31:21,423 and these other agencies like CIA, like DIA, 574 00:31:22,424 --> 00:31:27,670 like NSA, NRO, NGA, as well as their contractors, 575 00:31:28,740 --> 00:31:31,640 do a deep dive into exactly what these objects might be. 576 00:31:32,399 --> 00:31:34,781 And this was the Orb Working Group. 577 00:31:34,815 --> 00:31:39,820 And so a report from a Russian general at the time, 578 00:31:40,994 --> 00:31:44,101 retired now, his name was Alexeyev. 579 00:31:44,135 --> 00:31:47,621 General Alexeyev wrote that the Russian leadership 580 00:31:47,656 --> 00:31:51,038 wanted to attract these objects using radars, 581 00:31:51,073 --> 00:31:52,937 and they found a way to do so. 582 00:32:03,154 --> 00:32:04,914 In 2016, my girlfriend and I 583 00:32:04,949 --> 00:32:09,022 were traveling across the Center Bridge bridge 584 00:32:09,056 --> 00:32:12,888 from New Hope to Stockton, New Jersey 585 00:32:12,922 --> 00:32:17,824 and out of the corner of my eye, I saw five orange orbs. 586 00:32:18,756 --> 00:32:21,517 And so these lights just came out of nowhere. 587 00:32:21,552 --> 00:32:23,864 And at first I was trying to see, 588 00:32:23,899 --> 00:32:25,970 well, there's a restaurant right there, 589 00:32:26,004 --> 00:32:28,352 could these possibly be Chinese lanterns? 590 00:32:28,386 --> 00:32:30,837 Maybe there's a wedding going on or something like that. 591 00:32:30,871 --> 00:32:32,942 And I'm like, well, wait a minute, no, it's February 592 00:32:32,977 --> 00:32:34,772 and it's cold out and there's no way 593 00:32:34,806 --> 00:32:36,877 there's gonna be any kind of thing like that. 594 00:32:36,912 --> 00:32:39,501 So with that, I'm fumbling to get my phone, 595 00:32:39,535 --> 00:32:40,916 to try to take a picture of it. 596 00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:42,987 And of course my flash goes off of the phone 597 00:32:43,021 --> 00:32:45,472 and you know, but I was able to get one shot. 598 00:32:45,507 --> 00:32:48,717 But she got a better look at what was going on. 599 00:32:48,751 --> 00:32:50,650 And these things just appeared. 600 00:32:50,684 --> 00:32:52,893 There was five lights, they appeared. 601 00:32:52,928 --> 00:32:56,725 And it looked like they did a search pattern over the river. 602 00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:59,003 And then one by one, they just petered out, 603 00:32:59,037 --> 00:33:00,660 one by one and disappeared. 604 00:33:00,694 --> 00:33:04,836 And I was able to get the last one before it went away. 605 00:33:04,871 --> 00:33:06,735 One of the most incredible nights, 606 00:33:06,769 --> 00:33:08,115 I could not believe 607 00:33:08,150 --> 00:33:10,428 that we actually saw something like that. 608 00:33:12,534 --> 00:33:15,122 Some people get go real deep into the rabbit hole, 609 00:33:15,157 --> 00:33:16,883 you know, as we call it, 610 00:33:16,917 --> 00:33:20,024 and things tend to happen because you get so frustrated 611 00:33:20,025 --> 00:33:21,887 and you're thinking you're working with the right people 612 00:33:21,888 --> 00:33:23,786 that come out and try to leak your little stuff, 613 00:33:23,821 --> 00:33:27,204 but really they're most of the time leaking disinformation. 614 00:33:27,238 --> 00:33:29,654 And that tends to hurt that person, getting them confused, 615 00:33:29,655 --> 00:33:30,896 and they think they're losing their mind. 616 00:33:30,897 --> 00:33:33,486 And we've seen this before. 617 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,902 We've seen people lose really tight knit relationships 618 00:33:35,936 --> 00:33:38,905 with their wives, married for 20, 30 years, 619 00:33:38,939 --> 00:33:41,666 over them coming out and stating they've seen the UFO, 620 00:33:41,701 --> 00:33:42,805 just doing that. 621 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,532 And you don't see too many, very doctors or scientists 622 00:33:45,567 --> 00:33:49,018 coming out themselves talking about this subject, either. 623 00:33:49,053 --> 00:33:51,745 Or pilots, I mean, pilots are one of the biggest, 624 00:33:51,780 --> 00:33:54,955 you know, witnesses that we have today that come out. 625 00:33:54,990 --> 00:33:58,165 And the FAA tells them, you know, report it, send it to us. 626 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,512 And it goes in a lockbox. 627 00:33:59,513 --> 00:34:00,822 And usually some people will even show up 628 00:34:00,823 --> 00:34:02,756 and take the evidence, they'll take, 629 00:34:02,757 --> 00:34:04,619 there's a little box that goes in every little plane 630 00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:07,968 that records the radar systems, just like in the Military. 631 00:34:07,969 --> 00:34:09,106 And what they'll do is they'll come in 632 00:34:09,107 --> 00:34:10,488 and they'll take those boxes 633 00:34:10,523 --> 00:34:12,007 and then make them sign an NDA, 634 00:34:12,041 --> 00:34:13,733 nondisclosure agreement, 635 00:34:13,746 --> 00:34:15,906 saying that they can never talk about this stuff again, 636 00:34:15,907 --> 00:34:19,048 which deters people from reporting a UFO sighting. 637 00:34:19,083 --> 00:34:20,843 And that hurts the community in a whole, 638 00:34:20,844 --> 00:34:22,706 because these people are some of the top trained, 639 00:34:22,707 --> 00:34:24,122 most have military backgrounds, 640 00:34:24,157 --> 00:34:27,747 which is why they got into flying planes like they have, 641 00:34:27,748 --> 00:34:28,712 so they know what they're seeing, 642 00:34:28,713 --> 00:34:30,612 they're some of the most credible witnesses 643 00:34:30,646 --> 00:34:32,269 we have in UFO field, 644 00:34:32,303 --> 00:34:34,892 and this is what's being done to them. 645 00:34:34,926 --> 00:34:38,240 They're being deterred, not to say what they're seeing. 646 00:34:38,275 --> 00:34:40,622 Big picture does the Pentagon know 647 00:34:40,656 --> 00:34:41,899 more than they're saying? 648 00:34:42,865 --> 00:34:44,764 100%, 100%. 649 00:34:44,798 --> 00:34:46,800 And Leland, you had George Will on earlier, 650 00:34:46,835 --> 00:34:49,147 he said, it's in our country's DNA 651 00:34:49,148 --> 00:34:50,251 not to trust the government. 652 00:34:50,252 --> 00:34:51,771 And this is another example why. 653 00:34:51,805 --> 00:34:54,221 These are Navy pilots, 654 00:34:54,256 --> 00:34:56,154 these are the top pilots in the world. 655 00:35:15,070 --> 00:35:18,073 I investigated other sightings and incidents 656 00:35:18,107 --> 00:35:23,112 that involved UFOs or ETs during my time from 1978 to 1988. 657 00:35:28,014 --> 00:35:32,812 In 1984, I was assigned to Area 51. 658 00:35:33,813 --> 00:35:36,091 The public would call it Area 51. 659 00:35:36,125 --> 00:35:39,646 It was Groom Lake Complex in Nevada. 660 00:35:39,681 --> 00:35:43,581 It was actually a Detachment 3, Air Force test 661 00:35:43,616 --> 00:35:48,552 and evaluation site, which was the headquarters for that, 662 00:35:48,586 --> 00:35:50,588 was out of Edwards Air Force Base. 663 00:35:52,003 --> 00:35:53,833 And out there while I was there, 664 00:35:53,867 --> 00:35:58,872 I also had access to information pertaining to the UFOs, 665 00:35:59,425 --> 00:36:01,323 ET contacts that we had, 666 00:36:01,358 --> 00:36:04,775 and actually live ETs that we had out there. 667 00:36:04,809 --> 00:36:07,329 Now, I didn't have access to everything 668 00:36:07,364 --> 00:36:09,158 pertaining to that program. 669 00:36:09,193 --> 00:36:11,885 Special access programs are very compartmented 670 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,129 in the military and the government. 671 00:36:14,163 --> 00:36:16,338 So you only have access 672 00:36:16,373 --> 00:36:20,722 to parts of the program, not all of it. 673 00:36:20,756 --> 00:36:25,623 But I was counterintelligence officers for the base. 674 00:36:25,658 --> 00:36:30,663 And so I had to have access to enough in order to do my job. 675 00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:33,389 And one of the jobs of a counterintelligence officer 676 00:36:33,390 --> 00:36:38,084 is what the general public refers to as disinformation. 677 00:36:38,118 --> 00:36:40,638 We, United States government, 678 00:36:40,673 --> 00:36:43,020 especially the counterintelligence officers, 679 00:36:43,054 --> 00:36:48,059 are trying to protect the secrecy of what we're doing 680 00:36:48,750 --> 00:36:51,718 in research and development projects, 681 00:36:51,753 --> 00:36:54,411 reverse engineering of a craft 682 00:36:54,445 --> 00:36:59,623 or developing some kind of special weapons from the craft 683 00:37:00,313 --> 00:37:01,901 or some other technology. 684 00:37:02,798 --> 00:37:05,042 So during our protection 685 00:37:05,076 --> 00:37:09,287 of these highly classified projects, 686 00:37:09,322 --> 00:37:12,774 what we're gonna do is we're gonna develop a program 687 00:37:12,808 --> 00:37:14,810 to protect it from a general public. 688 00:37:14,845 --> 00:37:18,435 So for instance, if you're driving along some place 689 00:37:18,469 --> 00:37:22,369 close to a test range, such as, we'll say, 690 00:37:22,404 --> 00:37:26,028 Highway 95 or Highway 93 in Nevada, 691 00:37:26,063 --> 00:37:30,067 and you see something flying out there that is exotic to you 692 00:37:30,101 --> 00:37:32,794 or not known to you, 693 00:37:32,801 --> 00:37:34,001 you're gonna immediately think 694 00:37:34,002 --> 00:37:38,938 it's either something developed a highly classified object 695 00:37:40,008 --> 00:37:42,942 that we developed or it might be an extraterrestrial craft. 696 00:37:44,426 --> 00:37:48,913 So depending on which way the pendulum swings, so to speak, 697 00:37:48,948 --> 00:37:51,398 we'll try to convince you one or the other, 698 00:37:51,433 --> 00:37:55,126 that what you saw is actually a UFO, 699 00:37:56,507 --> 00:37:59,959 to protect the real project that we're working on, 700 00:37:59,993 --> 00:38:02,202 which is maybe a reverse engineering. 701 00:38:02,237 --> 00:38:04,066 It would be one of our crafts, 702 00:38:04,101 --> 00:38:06,206 but we're trying to convince you, it was an ET. 703 00:38:06,241 --> 00:38:08,692 Now it also works the other way around. 704 00:38:08,726 --> 00:38:11,142 You see something, we try to convince you, 705 00:38:11,177 --> 00:38:13,213 when you actually see a UFO and we know it's a UFO, 706 00:38:13,248 --> 00:38:16,872 we know it's an extraterrestrial craft, 707 00:38:16,907 --> 00:38:20,082 we're gonna try to convince you that it's one of ours. 708 00:38:20,083 --> 00:38:21,358 It's something we're developing, 709 00:38:21,359 --> 00:38:23,948 so you don't have to say something about it. 710 00:38:23,983 --> 00:38:26,813 Or, hey, be a patriotic American 711 00:38:26,848 --> 00:38:29,989 and just be quiet about what you saw, 712 00:38:30,023 --> 00:38:32,750 don't spread it around. 713 00:38:38,031 --> 00:38:41,103 You know, we have a lot of hope now 714 00:38:41,138 --> 00:38:42,760 about disclosure, right, 715 00:38:42,795 --> 00:38:45,038 you've heard about the term disclosure. 716 00:38:45,073 --> 00:38:48,007 The government has created a, what they call, 717 00:38:48,041 --> 00:38:53,046 a Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force. 718 00:38:53,875 --> 00:38:57,154 Well, what that is going to turn out to be, 719 00:38:57,188 --> 00:39:01,468 I guarantee you, is to keep the coverup going. 720 00:39:01,503 --> 00:39:04,989 And if they release information, 721 00:39:05,024 --> 00:39:08,130 they're supposed to periodically release such information, 722 00:39:08,165 --> 00:39:12,134 they're housed into the defense department. 723 00:39:12,169 --> 00:39:14,067 Periodically they're supposed to report 724 00:39:14,102 --> 00:39:17,243 on findings of, they don't call 'em the UFOs anymore, 725 00:39:17,277 --> 00:39:21,799 they call 'em UAPs, unidentified aerial phenomenon. 726 00:39:21,834 --> 00:39:24,043 If they do bring up the subject 727 00:39:24,077 --> 00:39:29,082 of UFOs or UAPs, in any context, I guarantee you, 728 00:39:30,221 --> 00:39:32,948 they will never talk about Roswell, 729 00:39:32,983 --> 00:39:35,330 for two reasons, two reasons. 730 00:39:35,364 --> 00:39:38,160 One, it will prove that they have been lying to us 731 00:39:38,195 --> 00:39:41,232 for 75 years as we speak. 732 00:39:41,267 --> 00:39:45,236 And two that they committed civil rights violations 733 00:39:45,271 --> 00:39:46,583 to cover up the case. 734 00:39:46,617 --> 00:39:48,895 They will not talk about Roswell. 735 00:39:48,930 --> 00:39:52,174 They have not talked about Roswell since 1997. 736 00:39:52,209 --> 00:39:55,143 And they put out a monograph, 737 00:39:55,177 --> 00:39:57,421 a book called, "Roswell Case Closed." 738 00:39:57,455 --> 00:39:59,457 They hoped it was case closed, 739 00:39:59,492 --> 00:40:03,013 but it's still opened as far as the civilian investigation, 740 00:40:03,047 --> 00:40:07,086 myself and Donald Schmidt is concerned. 741 00:40:09,364 --> 00:40:11,297 When Bill Clinton took office, 742 00:40:11,331 --> 00:40:14,300 he realized immediately when he took office, 743 00:40:14,334 --> 00:40:17,130 that there was a government within a government. 744 00:40:17,165 --> 00:40:21,445 So there's a lot of deeper things here going on 745 00:40:21,479 --> 00:40:24,344 under the surface than what we're seeing. 746 00:40:25,656 --> 00:40:27,209 And again, all of those guys, 747 00:40:27,244 --> 00:40:29,867 it's great that Lue Elizondo and all those guys 748 00:40:29,902 --> 00:40:31,455 are bringing this to the forefront 749 00:40:31,489 --> 00:40:33,181 and getting this information. 750 00:40:33,215 --> 00:40:36,046 But again, what's happening? 751 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,185 Are we getting any answers? 752 00:40:37,219 --> 00:40:38,876 I don't think so. 753 00:40:38,911 --> 00:40:43,053 I mean, it's there, I think, almost people 754 00:40:43,087 --> 00:40:45,296 are becoming desensitized to it as well, 755 00:40:45,331 --> 00:40:48,403 because it's just a proliferation of these sightings 756 00:40:48,437 --> 00:40:52,062 that, "Oh, there's another UFO sighting. there it is again." 757 00:40:52,096 --> 00:40:55,582 You know, until something lands on the White House lawn, 758 00:40:55,583 --> 00:40:57,376 like it did in, "The Day The Earth Stood Still" 759 00:40:57,377 --> 00:40:59,656 I think it's going to be just that, 760 00:40:59,690 --> 00:41:02,279 it's gonna be an enigma, it's gonna be ubiquitous, 761 00:41:02,313 --> 00:41:04,108 it's gonna be there all the time. 762 00:41:04,143 --> 00:41:05,351 And that's what we do. 763 00:41:05,385 --> 00:41:07,180 That's what we're searching for that answer 764 00:41:07,211 --> 00:41:08,491 all the time on what it could be. 765 00:41:08,492 --> 00:41:10,632 And that is the greatest mystery, 766 00:41:10,667 --> 00:41:12,876 what could it be, what is it? 767 00:41:14,256 --> 00:41:17,225 And I go back to another case, which I love 768 00:41:17,259 --> 00:41:20,677 and I love to research, was in the '50s, 769 00:41:20,711 --> 00:41:23,645 the Holloman Air Force Base, UFO landing. 770 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,475 And apparently a UFO had landed, 771 00:41:26,510 --> 00:41:29,237 a crew was doing maneuvers 772 00:41:29,271 --> 00:41:31,688 and they were filming the maneuvers 773 00:41:31,722 --> 00:41:36,900 and they had seen three objects landing over the base. 774 00:41:38,087 --> 00:41:39,487 And one seemed to be, it was wobbly, 775 00:41:39,488 --> 00:41:41,145 it was kind of like in trouble. 776 00:41:41,180 --> 00:41:44,252 Well, it came down and landed and they filmed everything. 777 00:41:44,286 --> 00:41:46,081 They filmed this thing coming out. 778 00:41:46,116 --> 00:41:48,118 And just outta Close Encounters, 779 00:41:48,152 --> 00:41:51,708 this thing landed, the tripod came out, the door opened up, 780 00:41:51,742 --> 00:41:53,399 three of these beings came out. 781 00:41:53,433 --> 00:41:57,437 Now the description of these guys was what made me think 782 00:41:57,472 --> 00:41:59,129 that this could be a real event 783 00:41:59,163 --> 00:42:01,338 because they weren't the typical grays. 784 00:42:01,372 --> 00:42:03,202 These guys had big noses, 785 00:42:03,236 --> 00:42:07,309 they had weird like an African wrap, something like a, 786 00:42:07,344 --> 00:42:10,347 they said it was a communication device on their head. 787 00:42:10,381 --> 00:42:12,970 Weird, their eyes were like ours, 788 00:42:13,005 --> 00:42:15,110 but they looked like Egyptian-like eyes, 789 00:42:15,145 --> 00:42:18,735 but the pupils went like a cats, they were up and down. 790 00:42:18,769 --> 00:42:21,565 And they had like blue fitting jumpsuits on. 791 00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:26,190 And so it was just the most interesting description 792 00:42:26,225 --> 00:42:29,746 of an extraterrestrial that you'd never heard about, 793 00:42:29,780 --> 00:42:31,471 you've never heard about this. 794 00:42:31,506 --> 00:42:34,095 But supposedly they have film footage of this. 795 00:42:34,129 --> 00:42:36,753 Well, what happened was there was a film crew, 796 00:42:36,787 --> 00:42:39,134 when Nixon took office, he was going to 797 00:42:39,169 --> 00:42:41,447 disclose all of the UFO information. 798 00:42:41,475 --> 00:42:43,275 He was gonna get it out to the public and say, 799 00:42:43,276 --> 00:42:45,244 "Look, this is what's going on. 800 00:42:45,278 --> 00:42:47,280 "We do know that they're real." 801 00:42:47,315 --> 00:42:51,284 He put a documentary film crew together 802 00:42:51,319 --> 00:42:53,493 and they were gonna put together a video 803 00:42:53,528 --> 00:42:56,531 called, "UFO's Past, Present & Future." 804 00:42:56,565 --> 00:43:00,604 They hired Robert Emenegger, who was a director, 805 00:43:00,638 --> 00:43:03,987 and he was told he could get 600 feet of this footage 806 00:43:04,021 --> 00:43:05,747 of this UFO that landed, 807 00:43:05,782 --> 00:43:08,232 that they could put into the documentary. 808 00:43:08,267 --> 00:43:11,511 Well, when it came time to go get the footage, 809 00:43:11,546 --> 00:43:13,306 it mysteriously disappeared. 810 00:43:14,583 --> 00:43:18,001 But apparently about 12, 13 seconds of it 811 00:43:18,035 --> 00:43:19,657 made it into the documentary. 812 00:43:19,692 --> 00:43:21,590 Somehow it made it into the documentary. 813 00:43:21,625 --> 00:43:23,489 And you could see this white dot, 814 00:43:23,523 --> 00:43:27,286 just coming down to the tarmac. 815 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,771 You know, were they trying to get that out there? 816 00:43:29,806 --> 00:43:33,119 Were they trying to say then, "This really happened? 817 00:43:33,154 --> 00:43:36,053 "Well, let's put it in a way that we're not gonna say 818 00:43:36,088 --> 00:43:39,263 "that it truly happened, but it could have happened." 819 00:43:39,293 --> 00:43:41,333 It's all of these different things that we've gotta, 820 00:43:41,334 --> 00:43:43,198 you know, kind of like go through, 821 00:43:43,233 --> 00:43:46,029 all these different layers of, 822 00:43:46,063 --> 00:43:49,342 you know, I don't wanna say lies, but yeah, lies, deception, 823 00:43:50,585 --> 00:43:54,347 you know, kind of manufacturing the truth. 824 00:43:55,624 --> 00:43:57,281 And that's been the greatest mystery, 825 00:43:57,316 --> 00:44:00,353 it's like, what is the answer? 826 00:44:05,427 --> 00:44:07,809 Everything the government does has a plan. 827 00:44:07,844 --> 00:44:10,329 You can't really do much in the government 828 00:44:10,363 --> 00:44:13,470 without some sort of an operational plan. 829 00:44:13,504 --> 00:44:16,231 So when we try to protect 830 00:44:16,266 --> 00:44:19,303 a technology research and development project, 831 00:44:19,338 --> 00:44:23,721 an exotic weapon system, we plan it. 832 00:44:23,756 --> 00:44:26,655 Most of the planning is done at headquarters, 833 00:44:26,690 --> 00:44:28,450 and then it filtered down 834 00:44:28,485 --> 00:44:32,420 to the counter intelligence officer at the base level. 835 00:44:32,454 --> 00:44:36,148 And we implement that program that is sent down to us. 836 00:44:36,182 --> 00:44:39,151 That was my role as counterintelligence officer. 837 00:44:39,185 --> 00:44:43,431 Now there's numerous projects and special access programs, 838 00:44:43,465 --> 00:44:46,779 I've worked on, that are still classified. 839 00:44:46,813 --> 00:44:50,334 I'm not gonna hide the fact that we United States government 840 00:44:50,369 --> 00:44:54,166 knows about extraterrestrial races, 841 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:59,205 about exotic technology that had been given to us by ETs, 842 00:45:00,206 --> 00:45:02,243 the fact that our planet has been visited by ETs 843 00:45:02,277 --> 00:45:05,315 for probably thousands of years. 844 00:45:05,316 --> 00:45:06,763 Now, remember I mentioned that we had an ET 845 00:45:06,764 --> 00:45:11,666 in captivity from 1947 to 1952, 846 00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:16,360 was codename EBE, for Extraterrestrial Biological Entity. 847 00:45:16,395 --> 00:45:20,157 He was able to communicate eventually with us. 848 00:45:20,192 --> 00:45:23,298 Now, you have to understand that an ET 849 00:45:24,541 --> 00:45:29,132 is not familiar with our technology, our science, our time, 850 00:45:29,166 --> 00:45:31,548 nothing about our society. 851 00:45:31,582 --> 00:45:33,515 So it was very difficult for us 852 00:45:33,550 --> 00:45:37,450 to obtain information from him, it was a male. 853 00:45:37,485 --> 00:45:41,834 Initially EBE was willing to provide the information, 854 00:45:41,868 --> 00:45:43,456 but the communications process 855 00:45:43,491 --> 00:45:45,700 was very slow during that time period. 856 00:45:45,734 --> 00:45:50,325 Number one, he couldn't speak English obviously, 857 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,259 and we couldn't speak his language. 858 00:45:53,294 --> 00:45:58,299 And his biology and anatomy 859 00:45:59,403 --> 00:46:01,578 was highly different from a human. 860 00:46:01,612 --> 00:46:03,890 So our scientists or doctors, 861 00:46:03,925 --> 00:46:08,447 our very, very smart physicians 862 00:46:08,481 --> 00:46:12,796 developed an implant to put it into his neck, 863 00:46:12,830 --> 00:46:16,593 which allowed him to say our words. 864 00:46:16,627 --> 00:46:21,563 Before that he couldn't pronounce any of our words 865 00:46:21,598 --> 00:46:24,394 because of the way his vocal chords 866 00:46:24,428 --> 00:46:29,433 or his anatomy existed in his throat. 867 00:46:30,089 --> 00:46:31,470 But we developed a way to do it. 868 00:46:32,436 --> 00:46:36,475 Very smart, EBE was very smart, extremely intelligent, 869 00:46:36,509 --> 00:46:39,374 and he was able to learn number one, 870 00:46:39,409 --> 00:46:42,308 our math really easy, our language, 871 00:46:42,343 --> 00:46:46,588 at least not all of it, but enough to communicate with us 872 00:46:46,623 --> 00:46:51,559 and enough to relate to us some of the things that he could, 873 00:46:51,593 --> 00:46:55,632 that was somewhat similar on his planet to our planet. 874 00:47:36,707 --> 00:47:40,504 An officer in the Office of the Chief Scientist 875 00:47:40,539 --> 00:47:43,818 and the Directorate of Science and Technology approached me. 876 00:47:43,852 --> 00:47:47,442 This is someone I knew, that I worked with before 877 00:47:47,477 --> 00:47:51,067 in a field called scientific visualization. 878 00:47:51,068 --> 00:47:52,136 And he said, "There's gonna be an interesting, 879 00:47:52,137 --> 00:47:55,657 one-day symposium that you might want to attend." 880 00:47:55,692 --> 00:47:57,901 "It's gonna be at this hotel 881 00:47:57,935 --> 00:47:59,903 and it's gonna be on this date." 882 00:47:59,937 --> 00:48:01,939 There were three topics on the agenda. 883 00:48:03,113 --> 00:48:06,634 It was sponsored by an office at CIA, 884 00:48:06,635 --> 00:48:07,530 which was highly placed, 885 00:48:07,531 --> 00:48:11,087 and we should have known these topics. 886 00:48:11,121 --> 00:48:16,057 These topics were the UFO studies done by CIA in the past, 887 00:48:18,542 --> 00:48:21,683 the existence of alien hybrids 888 00:48:21,718 --> 00:48:24,755 and CIA's interest in alien hybridization 889 00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:26,619 of the human genome. 890 00:48:26,654 --> 00:48:28,552 And the third topic was about 891 00:48:28,587 --> 00:48:33,074 an information technology explosion that will happen 892 00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:37,527 where this information will be disseminated very rapidly 893 00:48:38,666 --> 00:48:41,669 with devices that were not yet invented, 894 00:48:41,703 --> 00:48:44,120 far better than any of the cell phones we had 895 00:48:44,154 --> 00:48:45,638 back in the day. 896 00:48:45,673 --> 00:48:46,593 This was the first time 897 00:48:46,605 --> 00:48:49,884 where I actually got an official briefing 898 00:48:49,918 --> 00:48:52,783 on anything to do with UFOs. 899 00:48:52,818 --> 00:48:54,613 And in the briefing, 900 00:48:54,647 --> 00:48:58,444 it was stated that the McMinnville, Oregon UFO 901 00:48:58,479 --> 00:48:59,997 was an actual UFO. 902 00:49:01,171 --> 00:49:03,622 The briefer said a lot of the UFOs 903 00:49:03,656 --> 00:49:06,452 seen during the '50s and '60s, 904 00:49:06,487 --> 00:49:08,903 when CIA was testing its aircraft, 905 00:49:08,937 --> 00:49:13,356 that is the U-2 and the A-12 OXCART, 906 00:49:13,390 --> 00:49:16,117 they were identified as UFOs by observers on the ground 907 00:49:16,152 --> 00:49:20,432 because the test craft were silver. 908 00:49:21,433 --> 00:49:24,712 They were not black, there were not black planes at all, 909 00:49:24,746 --> 00:49:27,404 during the testing phase, they were silver. 910 00:49:27,439 --> 00:49:30,545 So when you see something streaking across the sky 911 00:49:30,580 --> 00:49:34,377 at 70,000 or 80,000 feet, that was silver, 912 00:49:34,411 --> 00:49:38,415 a lot of observers thought that they were UFOs. 913 00:49:38,450 --> 00:49:41,142 And CIA thought back then that, 914 00:49:41,177 --> 00:49:45,905 "Okay, that's fine, if they identify them as UFOs, 915 00:49:45,940 --> 00:49:47,700 that's just hiding in plain sight 916 00:49:47,735 --> 00:49:50,669 these special aircraft that we were working on, 917 00:49:50,703 --> 00:49:53,844 we don't care if they identify it as UFOs." 918 00:49:53,879 --> 00:49:58,159 And so the McMinnville UFO was a real UFO 919 00:49:58,194 --> 00:50:02,715 that occurred in 1950 before the first U-2 flew. 920 00:50:06,788 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaking about the government report that they put out, 921 00:50:13,450 --> 00:50:16,073 I believe it was June 25th of last year, 922 00:50:16,108 --> 00:50:21,113 that report unfortunately was not historical in nature. 923 00:50:22,494 --> 00:50:26,601 They only covered cases since 2014, 924 00:50:27,913 --> 00:50:32,676 namely these gun videos of the Navy. 925 00:50:34,816 --> 00:50:38,579 It did not have any Air Force cases. 926 00:50:38,613 --> 00:50:42,928 And it was only limited to 114 cases that they looked at. 927 00:50:44,170 --> 00:50:46,242 They couldn't explain, 928 00:50:46,276 --> 00:50:49,797 113 of them, were still unexplainable. 929 00:50:50,832 --> 00:50:52,662 The one that they could explain, 930 00:50:52,696 --> 00:50:56,148 turned out to be a weather balloon, of all things. 931 00:50:56,182 --> 00:51:01,153 So the other thing about this whole phenomenon since 2017, 932 00:51:04,087 --> 00:51:07,470 is that the Air Force has said nothing, 933 00:51:07,504 --> 00:51:09,541 it's all been a Navy show. 934 00:51:09,575 --> 00:51:13,890 And this UAP Task Force that they're putting together 935 00:51:13,924 --> 00:51:18,688 is a Navy CIA thing, the Air Force is not mentioned at all. 936 00:51:18,722 --> 00:51:20,828 And that's where all the cases are, 937 00:51:20,862 --> 00:51:24,763 the historical cases, Roswell, Rendlesham Forest, 938 00:51:24,797 --> 00:51:27,869 the other good one, they didn't even look at those 939 00:51:27,904 --> 00:51:31,494 because they would have to admit too much suppression, 940 00:51:31,528 --> 00:51:35,498 too many laws that they broke to suppress those, 941 00:51:35,532 --> 00:51:37,120 especially Roswell. 942 00:51:37,154 --> 00:51:41,745 The Air Force has not spoken since 1997, 943 00:51:41,780 --> 00:51:45,784 which was the 50th anniversary of the Roswell case. 944 00:51:47,924 --> 00:51:51,099 So all the way back when Roswell first occurred, 945 00:51:51,134 --> 00:51:53,136 the newspapers put a headline out 946 00:51:53,170 --> 00:51:55,207 and stating the truth of what actually occurred. 947 00:51:55,241 --> 00:51:57,796 The rancher came forward, being a good citizen, 948 00:51:57,830 --> 00:51:59,729 thinking he was doing the right thing, 949 00:51:59,736 --> 00:52:00,936 but immediately the day after, 950 00:52:00,937 --> 00:52:03,042 actually within the same 24 hours, 951 00:52:03,077 --> 00:52:05,251 the narrative was changed. 952 00:52:05,286 --> 00:52:07,771 And this guy was made to sign 953 00:52:07,806 --> 00:52:09,048 this non-disclosure agreement. 954 00:52:09,083 --> 00:52:12,293 He was held for six days, almost a whole week, 955 00:52:12,328 --> 00:52:14,606 being tortured and talked to in ways 956 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,780 to not describe what happened on his ranch. 957 00:52:16,815 --> 00:52:19,093 When he was released, we know he was paid money, 958 00:52:19,127 --> 00:52:21,785 he showed up in a brand new truck a couple weeks later. 959 00:52:21,820 --> 00:52:23,925 And he never spoke about it again. 960 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,582 Now there's a lot of people, 961 00:52:25,617 --> 00:52:27,757 and he wishes he never went back and told anybody 962 00:52:27,791 --> 00:52:28,861 about what happened. 963 00:52:28,896 --> 00:52:31,554 He says this to this day, well, until he passed away. 964 00:52:31,588 --> 00:52:33,349 But now who was to blame for this? 965 00:52:33,383 --> 00:52:34,971 Who are we gonna go after? 966 00:52:35,005 --> 00:52:36,766 Should they be paid for their losses 967 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,631 and everything that they've went through and lost? 968 00:52:39,665 --> 00:52:41,943 It might not happen because these people 969 00:52:41,978 --> 00:52:45,809 are so into the black market and so deep into the government 970 00:52:45,844 --> 00:52:48,812 that we can't even get FOIA requests out 971 00:52:48,847 --> 00:52:52,126 because they're in private industries doing this work. 972 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,992 So it's hard to find who is really responsible for this. 973 00:52:55,993 --> 00:52:57,337 Does the president know about this? 974 00:52:57,338 --> 00:52:58,719 I don't believe so, 975 00:52:58,753 --> 00:53:00,306 because he only does it four-year term, 976 00:53:00,341 --> 00:53:02,792 it gets done again, it's a full eight years. 977 00:53:02,826 --> 00:53:06,036 So would they really debrief him on all this? 978 00:53:06,071 --> 00:53:08,004 I don't really think so. 979 00:53:08,038 --> 00:53:10,213 So I think it goes way deeper than the president. 980 00:53:10,247 --> 00:53:12,077 And I believe it goes into the CIA 981 00:53:12,111 --> 00:53:13,837 and little private industries like this, 982 00:53:13,872 --> 00:53:16,909 where they can do this work and not have to answer for it. 983 00:53:16,944 --> 00:53:19,947 Because this happens all the time with every kind of thing, 984 00:53:19,981 --> 00:53:22,812 not even just the UFO phenomenon, they do this with. 985 00:53:22,846 --> 00:53:24,745 Even if they do disclose everything, 986 00:53:24,779 --> 00:53:27,403 I don't think everybody will be given the respect 987 00:53:27,437 --> 00:53:31,199 that they deserve back because it is so deep like this. 988 00:53:32,787 --> 00:53:34,789 People have gone down this rabbit hole many times 989 00:53:34,824 --> 00:53:38,034 and they come out on the dark side in all this, 990 00:53:38,068 --> 00:53:39,932 because they know that they'll never win. 991 00:53:39,933 --> 00:53:41,933 And it's a shame because it shouldn't be like that. 992 00:53:41,934 --> 00:53:44,040 We live in a free world where, you know, 993 00:53:44,074 --> 00:53:46,042 it's free speech, we're allowed to vote. 994 00:53:46,076 --> 00:53:48,941 We should be able to know, we pay these people in Congress 995 00:53:48,976 --> 00:53:52,842 and our government to work for us, to speak for us, 996 00:53:52,876 --> 00:53:55,396 to do things to help this country move forward. 997 00:53:55,431 --> 00:53:57,398 Yet we're stumped when we get 998 00:53:57,433 --> 00:54:00,677 this intelligence thing going on 999 00:54:00,712 --> 00:54:02,886 where they wanna hide everything all the time. 1000 00:54:02,887 --> 00:54:04,059 I don't think we'll ever fully get 1001 00:54:04,060 --> 00:54:06,994 a full disclosure from the government, in my opinion. 1002 00:54:07,028 --> 00:54:10,929 I just think that if they did that, it would ruin religion, 1003 00:54:10,963 --> 00:54:13,345 it would ruin the government and the oil products 1004 00:54:13,379 --> 00:54:15,002 that we get from overseas. 1005 00:54:15,036 --> 00:54:17,453 And that's what the government does, they hide stuff. 1006 00:54:17,487 --> 00:54:18,971 If it was a religion aspect, 1007 00:54:19,006 --> 00:54:21,905 people would not know what to believe in anymore. 1008 00:54:21,918 --> 00:54:23,078 They believed all their lives 1009 00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:25,944 about a Christian, Catholic, you know, whatever it is. 1010 00:54:25,978 --> 00:54:28,153 And then you come down to hearing that aliens, 1011 00:54:28,187 --> 00:54:31,052 other life out there, I mean, that can ruin a person. 1012 00:54:31,087 --> 00:54:33,365 But see if the government came out long ago 1013 00:54:33,399 --> 00:54:35,039 and disclosed this, like they should have, 1014 00:54:35,056 --> 00:54:37,749 we wouldn't have these problems or these issues today. 1015 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,826 Based on what he could eventually explain to us 1016 00:54:45,860 --> 00:54:48,000 and what we could teach him, 1017 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,763 we found that he's been visiting earth 1018 00:54:51,797 --> 00:54:54,282 or his species been visiting earth, 1019 00:54:54,317 --> 00:54:58,010 or our solar system I should say, for about 2,000 years. 1020 00:54:58,839 --> 00:55:02,083 So that of course brings up the big question 1021 00:55:02,118 --> 00:55:05,846 that people ask is, "Wow, was he here 1022 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,089 around the time Jesus was here?" 1023 00:55:08,124 --> 00:55:13,129 Now that's a very touchy, conversational piece 1024 00:55:13,785 --> 00:55:15,165 to talk to the general public, 1025 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,823 especially somebody who's religious. 1026 00:55:17,858 --> 00:55:22,276 If they think that ET planted a being on earth, 1027 00:55:22,310 --> 00:55:25,866 2,000 years ago, immediately they're gonna think 1028 00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:27,005 it was Jesus. 1029 00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:32,079 And was Jesus preaching, not the gospel, so to speak, 1030 00:55:32,113 --> 00:55:35,841 but their gospel or their belief. 1031 00:55:35,876 --> 00:55:38,154 One thing we did find, which is astonishing 1032 00:55:38,188 --> 00:55:43,193 was that, although EBE didn't talk about a God, 1033 00:55:45,437 --> 00:55:47,508 he talked about a supreme being, 1034 00:55:48,820 --> 00:55:50,822 and they did worship a supreme being, 1035 00:55:50,856 --> 00:55:55,861 similar to the way we worship God or Muhammad 1036 00:55:57,242 --> 00:55:59,934 or other religions. 1037 00:55:59,969 --> 00:56:03,420 He showed us something in the craft that related, 1038 00:56:03,455 --> 00:56:07,114 it was a figurine that they would worship, 1039 00:56:07,148 --> 00:56:10,980 similar to what we would worship a sculpture or something 1040 00:56:11,014 --> 00:56:13,189 of God or Jesus. 1041 00:56:13,223 --> 00:56:17,434 And there's other things that he was able to explain to us 1042 00:56:17,469 --> 00:56:19,816 that we found in their craft. 1043 00:56:19,851 --> 00:56:22,060 Now, you gotta understand that their technology 1044 00:56:22,094 --> 00:56:25,304 was probably 50,000 years ahead of us. 1045 00:56:25,339 --> 00:56:28,791 So we couldn't understand their technology. 1046 00:56:29,550 --> 00:56:31,000 It was difficult sometimes, 1047 00:56:31,034 --> 00:56:33,002 for him to understand our technology, 1048 00:56:34,210 --> 00:56:36,764 different planet, different species. 1049 00:56:37,938 --> 00:56:43,150 And so we taught him what we could from our civilization 1050 00:56:45,393 --> 00:56:48,155 and he taught us what he could from his. 1051 00:56:52,504 --> 00:56:55,162 I mean, you know, going back to, you know, 1052 00:56:55,169 --> 00:56:56,369 the Mercury Theater in the era 1053 00:56:56,370 --> 00:56:59,822 and what was that, that was the Orson Welles' adaptation 1054 00:56:59,856 --> 00:57:02,376 of H. G. Wells' "War of the Worlds." 1055 00:57:02,377 --> 00:57:04,342 So, "War of the Worlds" what was that supposed to be? 1056 00:57:04,343 --> 00:57:08,589 Well, all of a sudden aliens landed, Martians landed, 1057 00:57:08,624 --> 00:57:11,109 in Grovers Mill, New Jersey. 1058 00:57:11,143 --> 00:57:15,976 And, you know, what was stated in the newspapers 1059 00:57:16,010 --> 00:57:19,393 and what actually happened were two different things. 1060 00:57:20,566 --> 00:57:23,397 You know, they were supposedly, you know, 1061 00:57:23,431 --> 00:57:25,192 there was mass panic, there was people 1062 00:57:25,226 --> 00:57:27,125 that were like going crazy 1063 00:57:27,159 --> 00:57:30,093 and there was just mass bedlam everywhere. 1064 00:57:30,128 --> 00:57:32,268 Well, that never happened, it never happened. 1065 00:57:32,302 --> 00:57:35,029 But news made it happen. 1066 00:57:35,064 --> 00:57:36,997 It was fake news back then. 1067 00:57:37,031 --> 00:57:39,344 And as a matter of fact, Frank Stanton, 1068 00:57:39,378 --> 00:57:41,657 who basically he was the, I think, 1069 00:57:41,691 --> 00:57:44,660 the president of Princeton, New Jersey, 1070 00:57:44,694 --> 00:57:47,663 and this was the Mercury Theater of the era, 1071 00:57:47,697 --> 00:57:49,388 and that adaptation was funded 1072 00:57:49,423 --> 00:57:51,632 by the Rockefeller Foundation. 1073 00:57:51,667 --> 00:57:54,255 And what happened was Frank Stanton 1074 00:57:54,290 --> 00:57:56,292 was upset that they weren't causing the panic 1075 00:57:56,326 --> 00:58:00,054 that they were hoping the cause, you know, through that. 1076 00:58:00,089 --> 00:58:02,194 Even though every half hour, 1077 00:58:02,229 --> 00:58:05,370 the radio would come on and say, 1078 00:58:05,404 --> 00:58:08,856 "This is an adaptation of H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds." 1079 00:58:10,030 --> 00:58:13,102 But what the news stated at that time, 1080 00:58:13,136 --> 00:58:16,346 that there was like mass bedlam happening and craziness. 1081 00:58:16,381 --> 00:58:18,245 But it's just amazing to me 1082 00:58:18,279 --> 00:58:22,663 how you can have two different opinions 1083 00:58:22,698 --> 00:58:24,907 of an event that took place. 1084 00:58:24,941 --> 00:58:27,116 And, one that really happened. 1085 00:58:27,150 --> 00:58:29,635 and one that really didn't happen. 1086 00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:31,189 You know, this could be, 1087 00:58:31,223 --> 00:58:34,226 it's manufactured news at that point. 1088 00:58:34,261 --> 00:58:36,642 You know, it could be manufactured 1089 00:58:36,677 --> 00:58:39,231 to suit the needs of a certain few 1090 00:58:40,474 --> 00:58:42,338 and keep everybody on their toes. 1091 00:58:42,372 --> 00:58:45,272 Because again, what did we have going on around that time? 1092 00:58:45,306 --> 00:58:46,342 World War II. 1093 00:58:47,757 --> 00:58:50,346 So I always think about that and think to myself, 1094 00:58:50,380 --> 00:58:51,623 wow, you know, it's like, 1095 00:58:53,176 --> 00:58:55,351 there were two very different things going on. 1096 00:58:55,385 --> 00:58:59,286 And we're just finding out what the real story is today. 1097 00:59:00,736 --> 00:59:02,323 If was just the craft, 1098 00:59:02,358 --> 00:59:04,601 I think the government would readily disclose that. 1099 00:59:06,258 --> 00:59:08,329 And yes, there were outer space beings on the craft, 1100 00:59:08,364 --> 00:59:11,574 I think the government would disclose that eventually. 1101 00:59:11,608 --> 00:59:15,198 But the fact that these beings had DNA 1102 00:59:15,233 --> 00:59:17,373 that was found in the human genome, 1103 00:59:17,407 --> 00:59:20,238 I think that is the actual secret of Roswell. 1104 00:59:20,272 --> 00:59:23,310 I think that is a core secret of why the government 1105 00:59:23,344 --> 00:59:25,726 will not talk about Roswell. 1106 00:59:25,761 --> 00:59:30,938 All humans are in fact alien DNA enhanced, 1107 00:59:32,319 --> 00:59:36,737 but others were more enhanced than most humans. 1108 00:59:36,772 --> 00:59:39,222 And that these more enhanced humans 1109 00:59:39,257 --> 00:59:41,673 were of particular interest to CIA. 1110 00:59:42,605 --> 00:59:46,057 Now, I didn't put it all together back then, 1111 00:59:47,127 --> 00:59:51,648 but now I believe that this is part of the Roswell story 1112 00:59:51,683 --> 00:59:53,340 that was never told, 1113 00:59:53,374 --> 00:59:56,999 that whatever craft was recovered 1114 00:59:57,033 --> 01:00:01,244 and that whoever the occupants were in that craft, 1115 01:00:01,279 --> 01:00:03,626 that when the scientists 1116 01:00:03,660 --> 01:00:06,698 were able to sequence the human genome 1117 01:00:08,286 --> 01:00:13,291 and then went back at CIA to look at the genome 1118 01:00:13,947 --> 01:00:16,432 of any recovered alien beings, 1119 01:00:16,466 --> 01:00:18,468 they were surprised to find 1120 01:00:18,503 --> 01:00:23,508 that what the alien DNA looked like was also in humans. 1121 01:00:24,681 --> 01:00:26,373 But this was the way I connected the dots, 1122 01:00:26,407 --> 01:00:28,582 because I wanted to understand 1123 01:00:28,616 --> 01:00:31,378 exactly what Roswell was all about. 1124 01:00:31,412 --> 01:00:36,279 Why is it such a secret that a spacecraft from outer space 1125 01:00:36,314 --> 01:00:40,352 crashed and there may have been occupants on board, 1126 01:00:40,387 --> 01:00:43,390 why is that such a military secret? 1127 01:00:43,424 --> 01:00:46,324 Of course you can say it was the Cold War. 1128 01:00:46,358 --> 01:00:49,706 But the Cold War has been over since 1991, 1129 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,814 when the Soviet Union fell. 1130 01:00:53,849 --> 01:00:57,714 And still there's this secrecy over Roswell, 1131 01:00:57,749 --> 01:01:00,269 that particular incident 1132 01:01:00,303 --> 01:01:02,478 that the government has never addressed. 1133 01:01:05,722 --> 01:01:08,587 So we, the United States government, 1134 01:01:08,622 --> 01:01:13,592 knew of some instances where we had captured a hybrid. 1135 01:01:15,491 --> 01:01:18,080 We took him into captivity, so to speak, 1136 01:01:18,114 --> 01:01:23,119 because we knew that this person was a hybrid. 1137 01:01:24,293 --> 01:01:28,228 It was a male, he had been bred in a tube, 1138 01:01:29,436 --> 01:01:32,197 at a facility that we later found out about. 1139 01:01:32,232 --> 01:01:33,889 Examining this person, 1140 01:01:33,923 --> 01:01:38,548 both physiologically and biologically, 1141 01:01:38,583 --> 01:01:41,827 taking blood samples and tissue samples, 1142 01:01:43,657 --> 01:01:46,453 our scientists came to the conclusion 1143 01:01:46,487 --> 01:01:48,593 that this person was in fact a hybrid. 1144 01:01:52,562 --> 01:01:54,426 The Roswell crash, 1145 01:01:56,497 --> 01:01:59,707 according to our investigation of over 30 years, 1146 01:02:01,295 --> 01:02:04,333 contained five crew members 1147 01:02:04,367 --> 01:02:08,199 or Extraterrestrial Biological Entities, 1148 01:02:08,233 --> 01:02:09,683 as they like to be called. 1149 01:02:09,717 --> 01:02:13,411 Four of them expired when the ship blew up, 1150 01:02:13,445 --> 01:02:16,828 on July the 2nd, 1947, we believe. 1151 01:02:16,862 --> 01:02:19,727 One survived the crash and lived 1152 01:02:19,762 --> 01:02:23,524 for a number of years, post-crash. 1153 01:02:23,559 --> 01:02:25,733 We don't know exactly when it died, 1154 01:02:25,768 --> 01:02:29,185 but the information we have is that it expired 1155 01:02:29,220 --> 01:02:32,361 during some experiment they were doing with it or on it. 1156 01:02:32,395 --> 01:02:35,536 And according to a former commander 1157 01:02:35,571 --> 01:02:38,470 of the Air Materiel Command 1158 01:02:38,505 --> 01:02:40,679 at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, 1159 01:02:40,714 --> 01:02:45,719 who on his deathbed said that they were stored 1160 01:02:46,962 --> 01:02:51,173 at the Dugway Proving Grounds, which is a lot like Area 51. 1161 01:02:52,312 --> 01:02:54,452 That the beings that all five of them 1162 01:02:54,486 --> 01:02:57,696 were being stored at Dugway Proving Grounds, 1163 01:02:57,731 --> 01:02:59,940 near Ogden, Utah. 1164 01:02:59,975 --> 01:03:03,185 It's been recently speculated 1165 01:03:03,219 --> 01:03:06,429 that one of the reasons for the coverup 1166 01:03:06,464 --> 01:03:11,434 was that the beings contained DNA of some sort 1167 01:03:12,849 --> 01:03:17,406 that showed human traits, homo sapiens traits. 1168 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,788 I believe the fossil record is fairly clear 1169 01:03:20,823 --> 01:03:23,412 of our evolutionary track. 1170 01:03:23,446 --> 01:03:28,210 Where something like this DNA hypothesis, 1171 01:03:28,244 --> 01:03:31,213 sharing human genes of some sort, 1172 01:03:32,283 --> 01:03:35,527 you have to have more than just speculation on that. 1173 01:03:35,562 --> 01:03:38,323 I think, you know, as far as the hybrid situation 1174 01:03:38,358 --> 01:03:40,532 and monitoring what we're doing 1175 01:03:40,567 --> 01:03:44,847 and what the extraterrestrials could possibly be. 1176 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,540 I mean, one conjecture was, was really incredible, 1177 01:03:48,575 --> 01:03:51,716 was could they be us from the future? 1178 01:03:51,750 --> 01:03:53,925 And I thought that was brilliant, you know, 1179 01:03:53,959 --> 01:03:56,514 'cause that's what they actually thought 1180 01:03:56,548 --> 01:03:59,965 when they did this research in Roswell, 1181 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,451 that they thought maybe they were time travelers, 1182 01:04:02,485 --> 01:04:05,592 they were time travelers and they were us from the future. 1183 01:04:05,626 --> 01:04:10,355 The study about time compression is very interesting. 1184 01:04:10,390 --> 01:04:14,877 For 30 years of my 31 years investigation of Roswell, 1185 01:04:14,911 --> 01:04:17,742 I never considered where they were from, 1186 01:04:17,776 --> 01:04:22,781 they the occupants of the spaceship, 1187 01:04:23,364 --> 01:04:24,644 where they might have been from. 1188 01:04:24,645 --> 01:04:27,614 So along about a year or two ago, 1189 01:04:27,648 --> 01:04:32,653 I interviewed the two sons of one of the Paperclip Germans 1190 01:04:33,827 --> 01:04:36,968 who were brought over after World War II, 1191 01:04:37,002 --> 01:04:39,039 a rocket scientist, 1192 01:04:39,074 --> 01:04:41,938 you know, Wernher von Braun and his crew. 1193 01:04:41,973 --> 01:04:46,357 Well, second in command of these Paperclip rocket scientists 1194 01:04:46,391 --> 01:04:48,911 was a fella named Ernst Steinhoff. 1195 01:04:48,945 --> 01:04:53,950 So it was extra temporal according to Ernst Steinhoff. 1196 01:04:54,882 --> 01:04:57,920 Well, I know they can't get here from there 1197 01:04:57,954 --> 01:05:02,787 because it's the space time continuum in the universe, 1198 01:05:02,821 --> 01:05:04,064 it's too great. 1199 01:05:04,099 --> 01:05:08,689 But they had to compress the space time continuum 1200 01:05:08,724 --> 01:05:11,347 to maybe jump from one to the other, 1201 01:05:11,382 --> 01:05:14,316 without having to spend a thousand years to get here. 1202 01:05:14,350 --> 01:05:16,835 This Navy commander, who's name was George Hoover, 1203 01:05:16,870 --> 01:05:20,425 he was on Wernher von Braun's, 1204 01:05:21,392 --> 01:05:25,534 he was in his group studying UFOs and Roswell 1205 01:05:25,568 --> 01:05:26,845 and things like that. 1206 01:05:27,984 --> 01:05:29,986 Well, you know, Roswell was a crash 1207 01:05:31,402 --> 01:05:34,543 of a ship from somewhere else. 1208 01:05:34,577 --> 01:05:37,373 Oh, you know, you figure, "Oh, well, Alpha Centauri, 1209 01:05:37,408 --> 01:05:39,824 what, you know, where are you talking about?" 1210 01:05:39,858 --> 01:05:44,863 He says, "No, no, no, it was not extraterrestrial, 1211 01:05:45,968 --> 01:05:48,833 it was extratemporal, time travelers." 1212 01:06:17,620 --> 01:06:19,415 So when you look at the UFO phenomenon 1213 01:06:19,450 --> 01:06:20,970 and we wonder there's some explanations 1214 01:06:21,003 --> 01:06:22,384 of why they might be here, 1215 01:06:22,418 --> 01:06:24,696 and some hypothesis that people have made. 1216 01:06:24,731 --> 01:06:27,699 Now, when you look at it here on earth as humans, 1217 01:06:27,734 --> 01:06:32,739 we tag cows, we look at different biological specimens 1218 01:06:33,464 --> 01:06:35,673 under the microscope and we log them, 1219 01:06:35,674 --> 01:06:37,674 we figure out what's going on, we've run tests on them. 1220 01:06:37,675 --> 01:06:39,401 We do this kind of stuff with animals 1221 01:06:39,435 --> 01:06:40,643 so we can learn from it. 1222 01:06:41,610 --> 01:06:43,784 We've had aspect in thinking of the fact that 1223 01:06:43,819 --> 01:06:46,131 it's a big possibility that 1224 01:06:46,166 --> 01:06:48,168 that's what they're here to do with us. 1225 01:06:48,203 --> 01:06:50,101 So just like we treat cattle 1226 01:06:50,135 --> 01:06:52,724 and we tag them on their ear with a number, 1227 01:06:52,759 --> 01:06:55,693 they kept here to be here doing the same exact thing. 1228 01:06:55,727 --> 01:06:57,833 What do you think that implant is in somebody's body, 1229 01:06:57,867 --> 01:07:00,145 after they've had an experience with the UFO? 1230 01:07:01,457 --> 01:07:03,114 That's the same thing that we're doing. 1231 01:07:03,148 --> 01:07:05,150 And that's what a lot of people think here. 1232 01:07:05,185 --> 01:07:08,464 I mean, this is a big possibility of what's happening here 1233 01:07:08,499 --> 01:07:11,053 because it's not only people being abducted 1234 01:07:11,087 --> 01:07:13,849 in say yours or my generation, 1235 01:07:13,883 --> 01:07:17,059 this goes on generational, this is a generational thing. 1236 01:07:17,093 --> 01:07:20,235 I've talked to people that have had cousins 1237 01:07:20,269 --> 01:07:22,685 and brothers and grandmothers 1238 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,791 and their fathers have had experiences. 1239 01:07:24,825 --> 01:07:26,689 And it runs in the family. 1240 01:07:26,724 --> 01:07:30,003 We also talk about Rh negative blood. 1241 01:07:30,037 --> 01:07:32,695 That is a bloodline that has just popped up 1242 01:07:32,730 --> 01:07:34,594 out of nowhere within science. 1243 01:07:34,595 --> 01:07:35,870 We have no idea, it's the only one, 1244 01:07:35,871 --> 01:07:38,218 we have no idea where it came from in life. 1245 01:07:38,253 --> 01:07:41,808 It just appeared one time and it's been here ever since. 1246 01:07:42,774 --> 01:07:44,776 And we try to think maybe is it a possibility 1247 01:07:44,811 --> 01:07:46,744 that we have hybrids here? 1248 01:07:46,778 --> 01:07:49,609 Are these the people that are being taken, 1249 01:07:49,610 --> 01:07:50,816 that are having these experiences? 1250 01:07:50,817 --> 01:07:52,267 It's a great possibility. 1251 01:07:52,301 --> 01:07:55,235 So don't just look into the one little aspect of it, 1252 01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:57,927 look at it all, get the bigger picture, take it in 1253 01:07:57,962 --> 01:08:00,240 and understand what you're looking at. 1254 01:08:00,275 --> 01:08:01,759 Then you can be intelligent enough 1255 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,242 to go and have a conversation with somebody, 1256 01:08:03,243 --> 01:08:04,693 to learn from somebody else 1257 01:08:04,727 --> 01:08:06,591 and actually know what you're talking about. 1258 01:08:06,626 --> 01:08:07,834 Don't take the short way up 1259 01:08:07,868 --> 01:08:09,836 because it's good to have this information 1260 01:08:09,870 --> 01:08:11,251 and know what's going on. 1261 01:08:11,286 --> 01:08:12,563 'Cause it's happening. 1262 01:08:12,564 --> 01:08:13,632 The government wouldn't be involved, 1263 01:08:13,633 --> 01:08:14,944 like I said many times before, 1264 01:08:14,979 --> 01:08:16,877 if it wasn't a real phenomenon. 1265 01:08:24,816 --> 01:08:26,715 And I think for the skeptics out there 1266 01:08:26,749 --> 01:08:30,857 that are saying, "Oh, you know, we need definitive proof." 1267 01:08:30,891 --> 01:08:32,583 I think the proof is there. 1268 01:08:32,617 --> 01:08:35,758 Look at the amount of video that these people are getting. 1269 01:08:35,793 --> 01:08:38,589 Yeah, there's a number that could be faked, 1270 01:08:38,623 --> 01:08:40,901 but there's a lot of really, 1271 01:08:40,936 --> 01:08:42,903 really compelling evidence there. 1272 01:08:42,938 --> 01:08:46,251 Listen to people's stories, look at their body movements. 1273 01:08:46,286 --> 01:08:48,599 Look at the way they're emotionally 1274 01:08:48,633 --> 01:08:51,567 talking about these events that happened in their life, 1275 01:08:51,602 --> 01:08:53,120 that they can't explain. 1276 01:08:53,155 --> 01:08:57,711 You can't fake that kind of like, that human emotion there. 1277 01:08:57,746 --> 01:08:59,126 So when I hear skeptics say, 1278 01:08:59,161 --> 01:09:01,646 "Well, you know, there's no such thing as UFOs, 1279 01:09:01,681 --> 01:09:03,614 there's no such thing as Bigfoot." 1280 01:09:03,648 --> 01:09:06,858 Sorry, we've had evidence, we've seen it. 1281 01:09:06,893 --> 01:09:08,860 I've had experiences myself. 1282 01:09:08,895 --> 01:09:11,829 People that are high up in society, 1283 01:09:11,863 --> 01:09:14,797 that are classy, good people, 1284 01:09:14,832 --> 01:09:17,904 they had these experiences that they can't explain. 1285 01:09:17,938 --> 01:09:22,633 And so to the skeptics I say, you know, 1286 01:09:22,667 --> 01:09:25,567 really look at the proof, look, there is proof there. 1287 01:09:25,601 --> 01:09:26,913 You just have to dig deep. 1288 01:09:26,947 --> 01:09:29,778 I was on the fence with the belief 1289 01:09:29,779 --> 01:09:31,019 that people were getting abducted. 1290 01:09:31,020 --> 01:09:34,817 Like the few people that I really truly believe 1291 01:09:34,852 --> 01:09:37,544 that were abducted, and I've interviewed them too, 1292 01:09:38,649 --> 01:09:41,652 incredible, was well, Kathleen Marden, 1293 01:09:41,686 --> 01:09:44,827 whose aunt was Betty Hill. 1294 01:09:44,862 --> 01:09:45,897 Betty and Barney Hill. 1295 01:09:45,932 --> 01:09:47,140 I really truly believe 1296 01:09:47,174 --> 01:09:49,625 that they seriously had that abduction 1297 01:09:49,660 --> 01:09:51,178 that happened to them. 1298 01:09:51,213 --> 01:09:54,596 Another gentleman that I talked to Calvin Parker, 1299 01:09:54,630 --> 01:09:58,910 he was the Pascagoula UFO encounter in 1973, 1300 01:09:58,945 --> 01:10:02,604 where him and Charlie Hickson were abducted 1301 01:10:02,638 --> 01:10:03,984 and taken aboard of UFO. 1302 01:10:04,019 --> 01:10:05,883 And they were also examined. 1303 01:10:05,917 --> 01:10:09,852 And the aliens that came out there did not look like grays, 1304 01:10:09,887 --> 01:10:11,682 they looked like robots. 1305 01:10:11,716 --> 01:10:14,132 And very, very strange account. 1306 01:10:14,167 --> 01:10:17,998 And Calvin is the most down-to-earth guy 1307 01:10:18,033 --> 01:10:23,038 and has not wavered from the story since 1973. 1308 01:10:25,454 --> 01:10:29,872 I found it very interesting that Avril Haines, 1309 01:10:29,907 --> 01:10:31,840 the director of National Intelligence, 1310 01:10:31,874 --> 01:10:34,843 the head of the entire intelligence community 1311 01:10:34,877 --> 01:10:38,053 and the NASA administrator, Bill Nelson, 1312 01:10:38,087 --> 01:10:42,160 appeared together at The National Cathedral, 1313 01:10:42,195 --> 01:10:45,232 when were discussing our future in space. 1314 01:10:45,267 --> 01:10:49,720 And they made some very telling revelations. 1315 01:10:49,754 --> 01:10:52,999 For example, was the first time in my memory, 1316 01:10:53,033 --> 01:10:56,796 where a sitting head of the intelligence community 1317 01:10:56,830 --> 01:11:01,110 of the United States spoke the word extraterrestrially 1318 01:11:01,145 --> 01:11:04,079 in the context of these UAP craft. 1319 01:11:04,873 --> 01:11:08,186 I believe that's an important step forward 1320 01:11:08,221 --> 01:11:13,053 of building a bridge to actually revealing to the world 1321 01:11:13,088 --> 01:11:17,989 and to the US citizen, exactly what happened at Roswell, 1322 01:11:19,163 --> 01:11:21,993 what's happening now over our skies. 1323 01:11:22,028 --> 01:11:26,032 So I have high hopes about the coming years 1324 01:11:26,066 --> 01:11:29,932 as we approach the 75th anniversary of Roswell, 1325 01:11:29,967 --> 01:11:31,969 that the government will finally come clean 1326 01:11:32,003 --> 01:11:36,387 as to what exactly is this phenomenon all about. 1327 01:11:36,421 --> 01:11:38,976 Who are flying the craft? 1328 01:11:39,010 --> 01:11:40,771 Where do they come from? 1329 01:11:40,805 --> 01:11:45,085 Are they part of our hidden past, that we've forgotten? 1330 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:50,125 Can they then correlated to, for example, religious texts 1331 01:11:51,816 --> 01:11:54,267 that describe a creation story 1332 01:11:54,301 --> 01:11:58,443 where god or gods, were able to create humans, 1333 01:11:58,478 --> 01:12:00,135 made in their image? 1334 01:12:01,516 --> 01:12:05,968 I have high hopes that 2022 will be the year 1335 01:12:06,003 --> 01:12:09,351 where we start making that first step 1336 01:12:09,385 --> 01:12:11,974 toward revealing the actual truth. 1337 01:12:12,009 --> 01:12:14,770 And one of the last things I want to discuss 1338 01:12:14,805 --> 01:12:18,118 is disclosure, the disclosure. 1339 01:12:18,153 --> 01:12:20,776 The question is, will we ever know? 1340 01:12:20,811 --> 01:12:25,816 Will the government ever tell everything they know 1341 01:12:26,506 --> 01:12:27,546 about the subject of UFOs? 1342 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:32,374 My answer to that is, absolutely not. 1343 01:12:32,408 --> 01:12:37,275 There's no way that we, as a society, 1344 01:12:37,310 --> 01:12:39,795 will be told everything 1345 01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:44,179 the government knows or known since 1947. 1346 01:12:44,213 --> 01:12:49,115 There's numerous reasons why 1347 01:12:49,149 --> 01:12:51,980 the government can't tell the truth. 1348 01:12:52,014 --> 01:12:54,154 Number one, research and development. 1349 01:12:54,155 --> 01:12:55,948 They're never gonna tell us everything they know 1350 01:12:55,949 --> 01:12:57,364 about what they've learned. 1351 01:12:57,399 --> 01:13:02,404 Number two, about alien technology, human hybrids, 1352 01:13:03,232 --> 01:13:07,443 has the ETs manipulated the human DNA? 1353 01:13:08,824 --> 01:13:10,826 They're not gonna talk about that. 1354 01:13:10,861 --> 01:13:13,070 Now, will they say, "Yeah, we might be visited 1355 01:13:13,104 --> 01:13:18,006 or what these objects you're seeing is not terrestrial." 1356 01:13:18,558 --> 01:13:19,973 Maybe. 1357 01:13:20,008 --> 01:13:22,976 Nut that generates more questions than answers. 1358 01:13:23,011 --> 01:13:26,359 So my personal belief, and I know I'm contrary 1359 01:13:26,393 --> 01:13:29,051 to some other people like Lue Elizondo, 1360 01:13:29,086 --> 01:13:32,330 is that, no, I don't think we'll ever get full disclosure. 1361 01:13:36,127 --> 01:13:41,132 This fellow from Harvard Avi Loeb, two years ago, 1362 01:13:41,857 --> 01:13:44,032 there was a, I thought it was an asteroid 1363 01:13:44,066 --> 01:13:46,137 passing through the solar system, 1364 01:13:46,172 --> 01:13:50,072 but he thought it was a spaceship of some sort, 1365 01:13:53,041 --> 01:13:55,457 which I would, you know, say put outta my mind, 1366 01:13:55,491 --> 01:13:57,528 except he's from Harvard. 1367 01:13:57,562 --> 01:13:59,150 He a Harvard physicist. 1368 01:13:59,185 --> 01:14:01,187 And he came up with a theory 1369 01:14:01,221 --> 01:14:06,226 that it was a long trajectory probe of some sort. 1370 01:14:07,296 --> 01:14:12,336 So he's created a project called the Galileo Project 1371 01:14:13,026 --> 01:14:15,995 and they're launching another, 1372 01:14:16,029 --> 01:14:20,309 the Webb telescope is been launched again. 1373 01:14:20,344 --> 01:14:23,588 They're getting an unfettered view of the universe. 1374 01:14:25,211 --> 01:14:29,249 So they will be able to see the chemical elements 1375 01:14:29,284 --> 01:14:31,907 of stars and planets and things like that. 1376 01:14:31,942 --> 01:14:34,185 Plus everything is clearer 1377 01:14:34,220 --> 01:14:37,050 than what you get from a telescope down on the earth. 1378 01:14:39,156 --> 01:14:42,366 Because they're coming up with more Earth-like planets, 1379 01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,575 every month, they come up with another one. 1380 01:14:44,609 --> 01:14:47,198 I forget what the total is now, 1381 01:14:47,233 --> 01:14:51,547 but this one star, 41 light years away, has seven of them, 1382 01:14:51,582 --> 01:14:53,273 seven Earth-like planets. 1383 01:14:54,965 --> 01:14:57,553 And the universe there has to be, 1384 01:14:57,588 --> 01:15:00,453 as Carl Sagan would say, 1385 01:15:00,487 --> 01:15:04,215 "Billions and billions of Earth-like planets." 1386 01:15:04,250 --> 01:15:08,219 And that's, according to scientists, 1387 01:15:08,254 --> 01:15:11,395 you have to have an Earth-like planet with water 1388 01:15:11,429 --> 01:15:13,155 to have life. 1389 01:15:13,190 --> 01:15:16,193 I expect some startling announcement 1390 01:15:16,227 --> 01:15:19,196 within the next five years along those lines. 1391 01:15:19,230 --> 01:15:22,199 Not just, "Oh, there's so many Earth-like planets." 1392 01:15:22,233 --> 01:15:27,238 I expect a little more definition to come within five years. 1393 01:15:29,033 --> 01:15:33,210 Certainly a report from the government soon 1394 01:15:33,244 --> 01:15:35,281 about what they are collecting 1395 01:15:35,315 --> 01:15:40,320 and that what everybody suspects the UAPs really are. 1396 01:15:41,321 --> 01:15:44,324 200 years ago, would you people would think 1397 01:15:44,359 --> 01:15:47,224 that we could actually see on a box, 1398 01:15:47,258 --> 01:15:50,606 we could see other people on this box in our living room 1399 01:15:50,641 --> 01:15:54,300 or talk to people from vast distances around the globe, 1400 01:15:54,334 --> 01:15:58,028 on our phones, or, you know, or through a telephone. 1401 01:15:58,062 --> 01:15:59,961 That would've been absolute like, you know, 1402 01:15:59,962 --> 01:16:01,202 would've been witchcraft, you know, 1403 01:16:01,203 --> 01:16:05,242 it would've been like out of the realm of people's thinking. 1404 01:16:06,415 --> 01:16:09,004 But look at where we are today, look at the technology. 1405 01:16:09,039 --> 01:16:10,695 So keeping an open mind, I think, 1406 01:16:10,730 --> 01:16:15,217 is really, really important to everything that we talk about 1407 01:16:15,252 --> 01:16:17,150 in the paranormal world. 1408 01:16:17,185 --> 01:16:18,669 'Cause I always say 1409 01:16:18,703 --> 01:16:21,568 that there's always a bit of truth to the folklore. 1410 01:16:22,431 --> 01:16:23,329 Keep an open mind. 1411 01:16:24,055 --> 01:16:26,193 We hear people all the time when they report cases say, 1412 01:16:26,194 --> 01:16:29,197 "I think I'm going crazy, I think I'm losing my mind." 1413 01:16:29,231 --> 01:16:30,336 You know what I mean? 1414 01:16:30,337 --> 01:16:32,233 "But I saw this and I had to report it to somebody." 1415 01:16:32,234 --> 01:16:33,718 And we tell 'em all the time, 1416 01:16:33,753 --> 01:16:36,342 listen, it happens all the time, you know what I mean? 1417 01:16:36,343 --> 01:16:37,514 People see things all the time. 1418 01:16:37,515 --> 01:16:41,002 And most things can be explained, don't get me wrong. 1419 01:16:41,036 --> 01:16:42,520 We have a statistics, 1420 01:16:42,555 --> 01:16:45,627 it's about 94% of things can be explained 1421 01:16:45,661 --> 01:16:48,319 and there's 6% that cannot be explained. 1422 01:16:48,354 --> 01:16:51,598 And that 6% is what makes the phenomenon real. 1423 01:16:51,599 --> 01:16:53,323 People always say, "Well, how do we know this is real 1424 01:16:53,324 --> 01:16:55,602 and not just the government technology?" 1425 01:16:55,637 --> 01:16:57,259 Well, let's look at it this way, 1426 01:16:57,271 --> 01:16:59,191 if you look at the millions and millions of cases 1427 01:16:59,192 --> 01:17:02,264 that have been reported to MUFON and other organizations, 1428 01:17:02,299 --> 01:17:05,026 all it takes is one of them to be real 1429 01:17:05,060 --> 01:17:07,407 for this phenomenon to be a true thing. 1430 01:17:07,442 --> 01:17:09,685 So that's how we have to look at it on the scale. 1431 01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,826 And then if you really know your astronomy 1432 01:17:11,860 --> 01:17:14,380 and you know how big the universe is 1433 01:17:14,414 --> 01:17:16,347 and how big the galaxy is, 1434 01:17:16,382 --> 01:17:19,454 you'll realize that we're just a small spec 1435 01:17:19,488 --> 01:17:21,042 in a huge, huge ocean. 1436 01:17:21,076 --> 01:17:25,391 So I expect something definitive, something startling, 1437 01:17:25,425 --> 01:17:30,430 something solid to come from the telescopes 1438 01:17:31,190 --> 01:17:33,433 and the science that's behind it. 1439 01:17:33,468 --> 01:17:38,162 And hopeful that the government in their projects now 1440 01:17:38,197 --> 01:17:40,337 that the they're known around the world, 1441 01:17:40,371 --> 01:17:41,786 they can't hide them anymore. 1442 01:17:41,821 --> 01:17:45,204 They have to come out with something solid 1443 01:17:45,238 --> 01:17:47,413 and not couched in words 1444 01:17:47,447 --> 01:17:51,417 that just turn out to be gobbledygook 1445 01:17:51,451 --> 01:17:52,867 to keep the cover up going. 1446 01:17:52,901 --> 01:17:56,387 That's what I'm hoping for is some transparency 1447 01:17:56,422 --> 01:17:58,217 because the world is ready for it, 1448 01:17:58,251 --> 01:17:59,666 the world is ready for it. 1449 01:17:59,701 --> 01:18:02,255 You don't know what the future's going to hold. 1450 01:18:04,499 --> 01:18:06,294 Try those open doors. 1451 01:18:07,260 --> 01:18:09,849 I firmly believe not in the need to know. 1452 01:18:09,884 --> 01:18:13,715 I think the need to know is outdated, it's outmoded. 1453 01:18:13,749 --> 01:18:16,373 I believe in the need to share. 1454 01:18:16,407 --> 01:18:18,789 There's so many skeptics. 1455 01:18:18,823 --> 01:18:22,448 There's so many people that are backstabbers 1456 01:18:22,482 --> 01:18:27,246 against legitimate researchers within the UFO community 1457 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:32,285 that the skeptics are everywhere. 1458 01:18:33,148 --> 01:18:35,219 And so I always say this, 1459 01:18:35,254 --> 01:18:38,498 we have to ask the right questions. 1460 01:18:38,533 --> 01:18:43,434 If we ask the right questions that generates thought. 1461 01:18:43,469 --> 01:18:46,748 And thinking by smart people 1462 01:18:46,782 --> 01:18:49,475 will sometimes answer those questions 1463 01:18:49,509 --> 01:18:53,134 without us having to go through a FOIA request, 1464 01:18:53,168 --> 01:18:55,722 which we know that the government's not gonna give 1465 01:18:55,757 --> 01:18:57,759 if they don't wanna give. 1466 01:18:57,793 --> 01:19:00,555 So one of the things that you have to do, 1467 01:19:00,589 --> 01:19:05,353 even if you're just beginning in this subject area of UFOs, 1468 01:19:05,387 --> 01:19:08,666 is ask the questions, ask the right questions, 1469 01:19:08,701 --> 01:19:10,910 do the right research 1470 01:19:10,945 --> 01:19:12,739 and you might get the right answers. 118942

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