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You know, after
months of anticipation,
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the US government
finally released
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their report on
UFOs late Friday.
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But it didn't
answer the question.
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What are those
mysterious flying objects
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spotted by US Military
pilots in recent years?
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I am here to discuss the
so-called flying saucers.
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We have as of date come to
only one firm conclusion,
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with respect to this
remaining percentage.
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And that is that it does not
contain any pattern of purpose,
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or of consistency that
we can relate with -
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to any conceivable threat
to the United States.
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We can say that the recent
sightings are in no way connected
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with any secret development
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by any department of
the United States.
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Major Keyhoe,
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as author of the book,
"Flying Saucers Are Real"
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what is your opinion
of these new sightings
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of unidentified objects?
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With all due respect
to the Air Force,
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I believe that some of
them will prove to be
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of interplanetary origin.
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My name is John Ramirez
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and I served at CIA
from 1984 to 2009.
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I had a 25 year career
and it culminated
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in me receiving the
Career Intelligence Medal
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for my service.
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And I started at CIA
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in the Directorate of
Science and Technology,
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in the signals
intelligence field
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with the specialty of
electronic intelligence.
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And later transferred over
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to the Directorate
of Intelligence,
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where I was a Weapons
Intelligence Analyst for Russian
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and ballistic missile
defense systems and radars.
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I got interested in UFOs
at a very young age.
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When I was four-years-old,
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I saw through my
very first telescope
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and I saw the wonders in the
skies, the moon, the stars.
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And I just felt like that's
where my real home was,
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that I belonged out there.
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And this was before
the space program.
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So I wasn't really
influenced by Project Mercury
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and the original seven
astronauts of NASA.
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This was before then
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that I felt like my destiny,
my future, even my past
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was out in space.
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My name is Richard Doty,
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I was a
counterintelligence officer
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for the United States
Air Force Office
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of Special Investigations.
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I served in that role
from 1978 until 1988.
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During my time as a
counterintelligence officer
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with the Air Force, I
conducted investigations
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into the unidentified
flying object phenomena.
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Before that, of course I had
been briefed into the program
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and during my time at
Kirtland Air Force Base,
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I gained access to a
special access program,
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which dealt with the
United States government's
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investigation into the
UFO and ET phenomenon.
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And during that briefing,
I learned about Roswell.
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The first part of the
briefing pertained to how we,
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the United States government,
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had made our first contact
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with an extraterrestrial
being and craft.
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And that was at
Roswell, New Mexico.
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What I was told
during this briefing
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was that two
unidentified crafts,
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later identified as
extraterrestrial crafts,
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were flying around New
Mexico on a mission,
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some type of reconnaissance
mission we think,
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and they collided.
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Now that's a big controversy
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because if you stop and
think of an alien craft
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coming 40 lightiyears away,
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and they coming into our
atmosphere and they collide,
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how can that happen?
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During a three
year investigation,
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I found that many pilots
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have described objects of
substance at high speed.
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One case, pilots reported
their plane was buffeted
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by an object which passed
them at 500 miles an hour.
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Obviously this
was a solid object
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and I believe it was
from outer space.
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My name is Tom Carey
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and I'm a native of
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
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Somewhere along the line after
I was graduated from college
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and spent four years
in the Air Force,
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I became re-interested
in the subject of UFOs
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because I had heard
something about a incident
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called the Roswell incident.
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And I read the book and
it just blew me away.
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So to become active
in the field,
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I joined MUFON, the
Mutual UFO Network,
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just to receive their monthly
journal that they print.
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Well, the next thing I know,
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I'm the state section director
for Southeastern Pennsylvania
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in charge of investigating
local UFO cases.
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I wound up investigating
local cases
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in the Philadelphia
area, five county area.
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And I learned that there
were these two fellas,
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Kevin Randall and
Donald Schmidt,
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were reopening the Roswell case,
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which had sort of laid dormant
for well, initially 30 years.
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It was a two day
story back in 1947.
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It was a flying saucer, no,
it was a weather balloon.
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It was a two day story.
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And these two fellas
Randall and Schmidt
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were reopening the Roswell case.
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And part of that story
was that the crash
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was discovered by a
group of archeologists
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from the University
of Pennsylvania.
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Well, I have a degree
in anthropology,
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I'm a trained physical
anthropologist,
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I went for a doctorate
in physical anthropology.
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That's how I became
a, quote unquote,
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active investigator on the case.
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'Cause this is like 1991 now.
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So I joined the Randall
and Schmidt team
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looking for the archeologists.
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And since then I've expanded
my interest in the case
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and became an investigator,
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now 31 years on this one
case, the Roswell case,
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and we have found
over 600 witnesses,
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first and secondhand
on the case.
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Now during our investigation,
we learned many things,
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certainly some things about
the government involvement
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in suppressing this case.
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I was hired into the Directorate
of Science of Technology
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as what is known
an ELINT analyst,
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or electronic
intelligence analyst.
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My job was to analyze
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the Russian ballistic missile
defense system and its radars
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associated with that system.
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That job then entailed
looking at the targets
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that the Russians
were interested in.
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And so through that avenue,
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I was able to understand the
workings of the Russian radars
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designed to look for
ballistic missile launches,
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designed to look for satellites.
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In a course of my work
at CIA in that field,
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there was a time
when the Russians
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were very interested in targets
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that were not ballistic
missiles and not satellites.
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They eliminated
these two targets,
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especially the
ballistic missiles,
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there was no surprise attack.
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However, because they detected
objects that were unusual,
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they went into a high
state of readiness.
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Their strategic rocket forces
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went into a state of readiness.
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Which we then detected and
was of a concern to us.
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They did stand down
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and they did their own
analysis of what happened.
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And we did our analysis of
what the Russians detected
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and it appeared that there
were objects of interest
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to the Russians
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that warranted a high state
of readiness on their part.
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So I wrote a memorandum
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for the then Deputy Secretary
of Defense, John Deutch,
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about these radar systems
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going into a high
state of readiness
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because of objects
that they tracked.
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And described that they
were not satellites
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and they were not of
course ballistic missiles.
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But it could have been
a test of the system,
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it could have been
a training segment
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for their personnel running
these radar systems.
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These are like plausible
kind of explanations.
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But later I learned
that what they detected
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were these orbs or objects
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that were flying
over Russian airspace
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from the Arctic Circle.
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And so to understand
these radar systems
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are in the periphery of Russia,
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looking for threatening targets.
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And when they find
a satellite system
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and it matches up to
a known satellite,
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they'll drop the target
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and keep continuing
to scan the horizon.
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Well, in this instance,
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what popped up over the
horizon flew very fast.
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And under intelligent control
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with intent to go
to a destination,
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and it was not aircraft,
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it was not any kind
of missile test.
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This prompted the Russians to
investigate this even further.
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My name's Jesse Peak.
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And I'm a MUFON
field investigator
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in the state of Pennsylvania,
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city of Philadelphia,
section one.
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MUFON is a big
worldwide organization
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that investigates
the UFO phenomenon
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to scientifically help humanity.
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We've been doing this since 1967
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and we have MUFON field
investigators worldwide,
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not just here in
the United States.
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And we break down all kinds
of different investigations
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that are done and reported
to us, of UFO sightings,
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experiencer reports,
abduction reports.
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I also work with the ERT team,
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which is the Experiencer
Resource Team for MUFON.
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So if you had an experience,
you can report that,
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fill out a questionnaire
and we'll actually help you
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and walk you through in
trying to find answers
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to what you had in
your experience.
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So I joined MUFON in
2019, and a big part
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of where that field investigator
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feeling inside me comes from,
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I was actually in the
Army National Guard,
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so I'm very familiar
with chain of command.
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I was with 13 Bravo,
Artillery County crew member.
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I did my time at
Oklahoma, Fort Sill.
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And I was stationed
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in the Pennsylvania
National Guard branch
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on Southampton Road.
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So I'm very familiar
with signing NDAs,
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non-disclosure agreements,
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working with the chain of
command like we do in MUFON.
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We know that, you know,
it's only need to know
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sort of situations
where, you know,
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you don't ask unless
you're offered to know.
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I've worked with plenty of
people in the intelligence field
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and people that have
worked in the DOD the DIA,
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working with them
probably on a weekly basis
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throughout MUFON, I met
a lot of people that way.
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I mean, we know that the
government can keep secrets
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in the intelligence field.
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We look back at the
Manhattan Project
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and that was 130,000 people
that worked on that project.
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$2 billion of US money
went to that project.
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And not one of those people
leaked that project whatsoever.
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So we know that the
intelligence community
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can keep a secret.
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I mean, they had been
doing it since Roswell,
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I mean, 75 years, 75 plus years
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of keeping secrets of
this UFO phenomenon.
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And just now, recently,
we're starting to have people
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in the Congress, senators
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that are starting to
make new amendments,
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the Gillibrand-Rubio Amendment,
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that's been coming out.
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Chris Carson, another senator,
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they're all fighting for
disclosure to come forward,
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to give us this
information finally.
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And usually NASA falls
in line with that,
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with the government in not
telling these secrets like this,
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but now Bill Nelson
has been coming out
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and his scientists
have been pushing
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the intelligence community to
give them that information,
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so we can actually
scientifically look at this
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the proper way.
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The intelligence community
knows what they're doing.
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They are slowly getting
little leaks here,
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but can we trust those leaks?
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People come out the
woodwork saying,
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"Yeah, I'm ex-intelligence,
I used to do this and that,
258
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worked at the Pentagon."
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Even people that say they worked
with NASA back in the day,
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they come out and they start
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disclosing a little bit of
information here and there.
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But their job was trained to
be an intelligence officer,
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so they're the best liars
trained in the world.
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And I know this from being
in the military myself.
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If we had to say
what we had to say
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'cause it was gonna be on the
books or in a video somewhere,
267
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of course we had to be the
ones to go along with it
268
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and say what had to be said,
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whether it was the truth or not.
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I've seen people do
that all the time.
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I mean, it happens every
day, especially in Congress.
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And you see people talking
about it, stuff in the Pentagon.
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During that timeframe
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that the Roswell incident
happened in July of 1947,
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we had a very serious
lightning storm in New Mexico,
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in central part of New Mexico.
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And anybody that's
been in New Mexico
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knows that lightning
storms can be vicious.
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Now these two crafts were flying
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in the central part of New
Mexico and they collided.
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One landed or crashed
near Corona, New Mexico.
282
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The other craft crashed west
of Socorro near Horse Mesa.
283
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The craft that that landed
near Corona, New Mexico
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was discovered by an
archeological team,
285
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a few hours after
the craft crashed.
286
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Now we talk about
the debris field
287
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that was found by
on the Brazos Ranch.
288
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That debris field
was part of the craft
289
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that crashed in Corona,
290
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it was the antenna
section of that craft.
291
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But the actual craft was
recovered pretty much intact
292
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by the Army Air Force.
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And I remember during
that time period, 1947,
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the United States Air
Force didn't exist.
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That didn't come into play,
not until September of 1947.
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But the Army Air
Force was responsible
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for collecting the
debris and the bodies.
298
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The bodies were taken initially
to Roswell Army Airfield
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and then onto Los Alamos.
300
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One live ET was found
in the crash at Corona.
301
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He was given the
identification of EBE
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or Extraterrestrial
Biological Entity.
303
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And he stayed alive
from 1947 to 1952
304
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when he died in our captivity.
305
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The second craft crashed
out near Horse Mesa,
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but that craft wasn't
founded until 1949.
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A rancher moving his cattle
from a lower grazing range
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to a higher grazing range,
discovered that craft,
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in the late fall of 1949.
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Now this area of Western
New Mexico in Catron County
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is extremely remote.
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The only people
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that would frequent that
area would be ranchers.
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And this rancher went up
there to move his cattle
315
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and discovered the craft.
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He had no idea what
this craft was.
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He eventually contacted
the Catron County Sheriffs
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some days later, 'cause it
took him some days to get away.
319
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It took about five
days for the sheriff
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to make it out there,
to look at the craft
321
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and figured it was something
that he couldn't identify.
322
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Immediately they notified the
Air Force at Kirtland Field.
323
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They came out,
recovered the crash.
324
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Unfortunately all the
occupants of the craft
325
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at Horse Mesa were dead, their
bodies were deteriorated.
326
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So that's in essence, the
basics of the Roswell craft
327
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crash sites that I was told by
the United States government.
328
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Now I have no reason to think
329
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that what I was told during
that time is not true.
330
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I think everything that that
I just stated is factual
331
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by the United States
government's knowledge.
332
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So the headline goes
out on July the 8th, 1947,
333
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that the Roswell Army Airfield
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had recovered a flying saucer.
335
00:19:40,964 --> 00:19:43,622
Well, somewhere along the line,
336
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the government
did not like that.
337
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And very quickly they
changed the story
338
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to kill it in the press,
339
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that it wasn't a spaceship,
but a weather balloon.
340
00:19:55,979 --> 00:19:58,050
Now they would have been
better off if they said,
341
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"Well, it was one of our
high tech latest fighter jets
342
00:20:01,260 --> 00:20:02,641
that had crashed."
343
00:20:02,676 --> 00:20:04,402
But they said it was
a weather balloon.
344
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And so they suppressed the
story in the newspaper.
345
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So they took care of the press.
346
00:20:14,653 --> 00:20:18,001
Now what about the
airmen at Roswell?
347
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They knew, I mean, the story
went around like wildfire
348
00:20:22,178 --> 00:20:25,008
and everybody on the
base knew what happened.
349
00:20:25,043 --> 00:20:28,978
So they threatened the airmen,
350
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holding these meetings
in their hangers,
351
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"Okay, fellas, you
wanna know more about
352
00:20:34,155 --> 00:20:37,055
what you think
happened around here?"
353
00:20:37,089 --> 00:20:39,367
"Okay, if you want to
read more about it,
354
00:20:39,402 --> 00:20:42,370
you can read about it
in Leavenworth Prison."
355
00:20:42,405 --> 00:20:45,857
So they threatened the
airmen to keep quiet
356
00:20:45,891 --> 00:20:49,377
or else they'd wind
up in Leavenworth.
357
00:20:49,412 --> 00:20:52,070
Now what about the civilians?
358
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What about the civilians that
had gotten to the crash site
359
00:20:56,419 --> 00:20:58,110
before the military?
360
00:20:58,145 --> 00:20:59,802
And we know that they did.
361
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Now there was no martial law,
362
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they did not
declare martial law.
363
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There was no emergency
like, you know,
364
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an invasion or
anything like that,
365
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where the Military could
take over the town.
366
00:21:17,095 --> 00:21:20,754
But they de facto did
take over the town
367
00:21:20,788 --> 00:21:23,032
and they started
threatening the witnesses
368
00:21:23,066 --> 00:21:25,759
who knew what had happened,
had been to the site,
369
00:21:25,793 --> 00:21:27,105
had seen the crash
370
00:21:27,139 --> 00:21:30,073
and especially had
seen the little bodies.
371
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They threatened the
civilian population,
372
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and there were a lot
of them, with death.
373
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They said, "If you
talk about this,
374
00:21:39,013 --> 00:21:41,153
we're not only
going to kill you,
375
00:21:41,188 --> 00:21:43,708
we're going to kill
your whole family."
376
00:21:52,302 --> 00:21:53,890
My name's Eric Mintel.
377
00:21:53,925 --> 00:21:57,135
I am the founder of Bucks County
Paranormal Investigations,
378
00:21:57,169 --> 00:21:59,137
also Eric Mintel Investigates,
379
00:21:59,171 --> 00:22:03,969
and for years there's always
been so many great stories
380
00:22:04,004 --> 00:22:07,214
of ghosts, UFOs,
everything paranormal,
381
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here in Bucks County and beyond.
382
00:22:09,250 --> 00:22:14,117
And I briefly joined MUFON
back in, I think, 2009
383
00:22:15,567 --> 00:22:19,157
when we had a huge UFO flap
here in Bucks County in 2008,
384
00:22:19,191 --> 00:22:22,056
with many, many, I mean,
thousands of people
385
00:22:22,091 --> 00:22:23,541
were seeing these objects
386
00:22:23,575 --> 00:22:25,301
and a lot of video
evidence and whatnot.
387
00:22:25,335 --> 00:22:29,063
So I became a field investigator
for a short period of time.
388
00:22:29,098 --> 00:22:33,447
Going back to Roswell,
1947, and you know,
389
00:22:33,481 --> 00:22:37,002
the government's,
you know, admission
390
00:22:37,037 --> 00:22:42,042
they found a disk
that day in the field
391
00:22:43,146 --> 00:22:44,803
and then right
away covered it up.
392
00:22:44,838 --> 00:22:48,531
So I think probably the
government, at that time,
393
00:22:48,566 --> 00:22:50,153
didn't wanna cause panic
394
00:22:50,188 --> 00:22:52,155
because look, we
had the Cold War,
395
00:22:52,190 --> 00:22:53,881
the Cold War was happening,
396
00:22:53,916 --> 00:22:56,884
and then that just
proliferated, you know,
397
00:22:56,919 --> 00:22:58,576
decade after decade.
398
00:22:58,610 --> 00:23:00,508
But what people don't understand
399
00:23:00,543 --> 00:23:03,132
is that sightings
were still going on.
400
00:23:03,166 --> 00:23:05,168
They were still happening.
401
00:23:05,203 --> 00:23:07,274
Now so maybe you
didn't hear a lot
402
00:23:07,308 --> 00:23:09,172
of what was going
on at that point.
403
00:23:09,207 --> 00:23:13,073
But when you've got UFOs
flying over Washington, D.C.
404
00:23:13,107 --> 00:23:15,558
over the capital
building in 1952,
405
00:23:15,593 --> 00:23:17,215
you can't deny
that, that's there.
406
00:23:17,249 --> 00:23:19,182
And they had no
idea what it was.
407
00:23:19,217 --> 00:23:21,184
You know, Project Blue
Book did the studies
408
00:23:21,219 --> 00:23:23,014
of the UFO reports.
409
00:23:23,048 --> 00:23:27,052
And they think they had
like, 17,000 reports
410
00:23:27,087 --> 00:23:30,193
and I think 709 that
couldn't be explained.
411
00:23:30,953 --> 00:23:34,059
And probably a lot
more than that.
412
00:23:34,094 --> 00:23:36,993
So, you know, I think
that the bottom line is,
413
00:23:37,028 --> 00:23:38,857
and even with
these Tic Tac UFOs,
414
00:23:38,892 --> 00:23:41,239
they don't know what it is.
415
00:23:41,273 --> 00:23:42,896
Is it causing a threat?
416
00:23:44,276 --> 00:23:46,236
We haven't seen any of
that, we haven't seen that.
417
00:23:46,244 --> 00:23:49,523
I mean, I don't know
some reports use,
418
00:23:49,557 --> 00:23:51,870
I mean, you get
some of the reports
419
00:23:51,871 --> 00:23:53,146
of people that have
been, you know,
420
00:23:53,147 --> 00:23:55,253
burned by, you
know, the radiation
421
00:23:55,287 --> 00:23:58,359
or they've had some kind of
like close contact that way.
422
00:23:58,394 --> 00:24:00,223
But as far as
physically, you know,
423
00:24:00,258 --> 00:24:04,469
were destructively doing
something with these UFO reports,
424
00:24:04,503 --> 00:24:06,126
I don't think they're
a threatening,
425
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,162
I don't think they're
a threatening thing.
426
00:24:08,197 --> 00:24:11,234
My opinion is that they're
here to monitor us.
427
00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:13,616
They're monitoring
us for some thing,
428
00:24:13,651 --> 00:24:15,480
we don't know what that is.
429
00:24:15,514 --> 00:24:17,240
So what is the phenomena?
430
00:24:17,275 --> 00:24:21,106
That's the biggest question
that we've all been asking
431
00:24:21,141 --> 00:24:23,937
for millennia, really.
432
00:24:23,971 --> 00:24:28,148
I mean, if you go back to
religious times, they're there.
433
00:24:28,182 --> 00:24:30,288
There's a painting of
the Madonna holding Jesus
434
00:24:30,322 --> 00:24:32,152
with a guy in the background,
435
00:24:32,186 --> 00:24:34,948
looking at a UFO
in the background.
436
00:24:34,982 --> 00:24:37,053
So it's amazing that
these things are there,
437
00:24:37,088 --> 00:24:40,160
they are in plain sight
of what we're seeing,
438
00:24:40,194 --> 00:24:41,299
they're there every day.
439
00:24:41,333 --> 00:24:43,163
My feeling is the government
440
00:24:43,197 --> 00:24:46,062
just does not know
what these are
441
00:24:46,097 --> 00:24:48,547
and they don't know
how to approach it.
442
00:24:48,582 --> 00:24:50,342
So that's why they
created AATIP,
443
00:24:50,377 --> 00:24:51,516
that's why they're creating
444
00:24:51,550 --> 00:24:53,414
all of these different
infrastructures
445
00:24:53,449 --> 00:24:55,140
to deal with this somehow.
446
00:24:55,175 --> 00:24:57,177
But so far, nobody
has an answer.
447
00:24:59,420 --> 00:25:01,560
So I'm working on a case now,
448
00:25:01,595 --> 00:25:04,322
going back to the
problems people have
449
00:25:04,356 --> 00:25:08,188
after having been abducted
or it was a UFO sighting.
450
00:25:08,222 --> 00:25:10,052
And I was sent a picture
451
00:25:10,086 --> 00:25:12,226
and she showed me
some puncture wounds
452
00:25:12,261 --> 00:25:14,366
that were left
behind on her body,
453
00:25:14,401 --> 00:25:16,265
after having an experience.
454
00:25:16,299 --> 00:25:19,717
Now, we see these a lot with
abductees and experiencers,
455
00:25:19,751 --> 00:25:22,478
they get marks on their bodies,
some even will get implants.
456
00:25:22,512 --> 00:25:25,343
Dr. Roger Leir was
a big part of that,
457
00:25:25,377 --> 00:25:27,966
he helped get these
people with implants
458
00:25:28,001 --> 00:25:30,451
that have had experiences
and he would remove them.
459
00:25:30,486 --> 00:25:32,971
And we have a lot of
data on those as well.
460
00:25:33,006 --> 00:25:36,043
A lot of the times, if you
have an object in your body,
461
00:25:36,078 --> 00:25:38,287
you can pull it out and
then it'll have a membrane
462
00:25:38,321 --> 00:25:39,633
around the object itself.
463
00:25:39,667 --> 00:25:41,048
And what that membrane does
464
00:25:41,083 --> 00:25:43,119
is it helps the body
not reject the object
465
00:25:43,154 --> 00:25:44,949
being placed inside.
466
00:25:44,983 --> 00:25:46,122
Then when you cut that off,
467
00:25:46,157 --> 00:25:49,194
it usually turns down to some
type of metal or meteorite
468
00:25:49,229 --> 00:25:50,644
that's being placed in the body.
469
00:25:50,678 --> 00:25:52,370
Now there's been plenty of times
470
00:25:52,404 --> 00:25:55,235
where we've actually
taken an EMF reader
471
00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:57,547
or some kind of
electrical device,
472
00:25:57,582 --> 00:25:59,308
and put it close to the objects
473
00:25:59,342 --> 00:26:01,379
that are implanted in people,
474
00:26:01,413 --> 00:26:03,622
and it will actually
give off readings,
475
00:26:03,657 --> 00:26:07,316
which is, I mean, what
does that? We have no idea.
476
00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:10,560
This is just part of the
phenomenon that we question.
477
00:26:12,424 --> 00:26:17,084
In 1984, I was
assigned to Area 51.
478
00:26:18,396 --> 00:26:20,398
The public would
call it Area 51,
479
00:26:20,432 --> 00:26:23,988
it was Groom Lake
Complex in Nevada.
480
00:26:24,022 --> 00:26:26,266
I walked into a building
481
00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:30,270
and there was a
closed-circuit camera,
482
00:26:30,304 --> 00:26:32,272
a monitor, excuse me,
483
00:26:32,306 --> 00:26:36,414
showing a picture of
an ET on the camera.
484
00:26:36,448 --> 00:26:40,556
I asked the agent in the
room, "Where is this?
485
00:26:40,590 --> 00:26:41,799
What am I looking at here?"
486
00:26:41,833 --> 00:26:43,421
He said, "This is
closed-circuit.
487
00:26:44,456 --> 00:26:47,011
This ET is at another facility."
488
00:26:47,045 --> 00:26:50,393
And I learned later was
S2 Annex, it was called.
489
00:26:50,428 --> 00:26:53,396
"And he's getting ready
to be interviewed."
490
00:26:54,604 --> 00:26:56,330
And I watched it for
about, like I said,
491
00:26:56,331 --> 00:26:57,192
about seven to 10 minutes.
492
00:26:57,193 --> 00:26:59,264
And another officer
came in the room
493
00:26:59,299 --> 00:27:01,301
and asked me what I
was doing in there.
494
00:27:01,335 --> 00:27:04,476
And I said, "Oh, I came
over for another project.
495
00:27:04,511 --> 00:27:05,753
And I see this."
496
00:27:05,754 --> 00:27:07,513
He said, "I don't think
you're cleared for it."
497
00:27:07,514 --> 00:27:09,102
So I had to leave.
498
00:27:09,136 --> 00:27:13,313
But in that seven to 10
minutes, I saw a lot of this.
499
00:27:13,347 --> 00:27:16,523
Now the ironic part of this
500
00:27:16,557 --> 00:27:19,319
was there were two
intelligence officers
501
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,560
sitting, one on one side of him,
502
00:27:20,561 --> 00:27:22,529
one on the other side of him.
503
00:27:22,563 --> 00:27:27,154
And there was sound in the room,
504
00:27:27,189 --> 00:27:29,501
but there was no word spoken.
505
00:27:29,536 --> 00:27:32,642
Everything was being
done, I think by,
506
00:27:32,677 --> 00:27:34,748
we would refer to as telepathy.
507
00:27:34,782 --> 00:27:38,338
But actually the government
doesn't consider it that,
508
00:27:38,372 --> 00:27:41,237
they're calling it
thought transfers.
509
00:27:43,481 --> 00:27:45,759
People think that we
gather together in dark rooms
510
00:27:45,793 --> 00:27:47,278
and talk about UFOs.
511
00:27:48,141 --> 00:27:50,039
So we don't do that at all.
512
00:27:51,213 --> 00:27:54,216
At CIA, there are
no UFO accounts,
513
00:27:54,250 --> 00:27:57,875
there are no ET accounts,
intelligence accounts
514
00:27:57,909 --> 00:28:00,843
that I was aware of
when I served there.
515
00:28:00,878 --> 00:28:03,639
Because of our day to
day jobs of what we did
516
00:28:03,673 --> 00:28:05,572
with our regular analysis,
517
00:28:05,606 --> 00:28:08,678
we detected Russian
interest in the phenomenon.
518
00:28:08,713 --> 00:28:13,476
And so we do have some
sensors that can detect IR,
519
00:28:13,511 --> 00:28:15,202
that's no longer classified,
520
00:28:16,238 --> 00:28:18,447
that is something that you
can search for yourself
521
00:28:18,481 --> 00:28:20,449
in FOIA documents,
522
00:28:20,483 --> 00:28:25,350
that certain classes of
our surveillance satellites
523
00:28:25,385 --> 00:28:30,390
have IR capabilities, they're
electro-optical satellites.
524
00:28:31,425 --> 00:28:35,498
And with these sensors, we
also detected orbs as well,
525
00:28:36,154 --> 00:28:37,500
flying over Russian airspace.
526
00:28:38,432 --> 00:28:41,470
And so you might wonder,
why not US airspace?
527
00:28:41,504 --> 00:28:44,922
Well, keep in mind that the
US intelligence community
528
00:28:44,956 --> 00:28:47,925
does not conduct surveillance.
529
00:28:47,959 --> 00:28:52,377
We do not spy over US territory.
530
00:28:52,412 --> 00:28:56,761
We are a foreign
intelligence-focused agency.
531
00:28:56,795 --> 00:29:00,454
So that is why we
detected it over Russia.
532
00:29:00,489 --> 00:29:04,493
And so that brought
us to thinking,
533
00:29:04,527 --> 00:29:06,564
well, what are these craft?
534
00:29:06,598 --> 00:29:08,669
They're flying extremely fast,
535
00:29:08,704 --> 00:29:10,913
they're flying extremely high,
536
00:29:10,948 --> 00:29:13,640
what could it be,
could it be a threat?
537
00:29:13,674 --> 00:29:16,884
So my branch, the
ELINT Analysis Branch
538
00:29:16,919 --> 00:29:20,888
was assigned to eliminate, to
rule out, what it could be.
539
00:29:20,923 --> 00:29:25,928
We looked at several Russian
craft, aircraft that they had,
540
00:29:27,516 --> 00:29:29,276
which could fit the bill.
541
00:29:30,484 --> 00:29:33,246
There's the MiG-29
and as the MiG-31.
542
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,800
These two are interceptors,
543
00:29:35,834 --> 00:29:39,148
they're designed to fly
straight up into the sky
544
00:29:40,322 --> 00:29:42,496
and then shoot down
something below them.
545
00:29:42,531 --> 00:29:47,536
So we eliminated those
MiG-29s and MiG-31s.
546
00:29:48,537 --> 00:29:50,642
They carried something
called stealth generator.
547
00:29:50,677 --> 00:29:53,680
The stealth generator
could have created
548
00:29:53,714 --> 00:29:58,340
something like an orb like
appearance to an IR sensor.
549
00:29:58,374 --> 00:30:02,413
But these craft were
flying much higher
550
00:30:02,447 --> 00:30:07,452
than the 123,000 foot
world record altitude
551
00:30:08,108 --> 00:30:10,455
set by the MiG-31, for example.
552
00:30:10,490 --> 00:30:12,561
So we eliminated that.
553
00:30:12,595 --> 00:30:15,978
Subject matter experts
were then called together
554
00:30:16,013 --> 00:30:17,842
at each of these agencies
555
00:30:17,876 --> 00:30:20,362
by the agency that detected
556
00:30:20,396 --> 00:30:22,605
the presence of these
orbs in our sensors.
557
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,609
That agency was the National
Geospatial Intelligence Agency.
558
00:30:26,644 --> 00:30:30,751
So what they did was
they eliminated the fact
559
00:30:32,339 --> 00:30:34,548
that they were Russian aircraft.
560
00:30:34,583 --> 00:30:39,588
And so they went to the NRO
and tried to then find out
561
00:30:41,693 --> 00:30:45,490
if there was any kind of
glitches in the satellite.
562
00:30:45,525 --> 00:30:47,734
NRO, who's responsible
for the care
563
00:30:47,768 --> 00:30:51,531
and feeding of these satellites
came with the report,
564
00:30:51,565 --> 00:30:53,533
no, there was nothing
wrong with the satellites.
565
00:30:53,567 --> 00:30:57,502
NGA also eliminated any
of the ground software
566
00:30:57,537 --> 00:30:59,953
that may have been
processing these images
567
00:30:59,987 --> 00:31:02,956
and, no, there are no
glitches in the software.
568
00:31:02,990 --> 00:31:06,994
And so the NGA and NRO
would need to get together
569
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:10,826
and discover exactly
what are these objects
570
00:31:10,860 --> 00:31:13,553
in the frames of
electro-optical imagery
571
00:31:13,587 --> 00:31:15,555
that they've detected?
572
00:31:15,589 --> 00:31:17,867
They gather together these
subject matter experts
573
00:31:17,902 --> 00:31:21,423
and these other agencies
like CIA, like DIA,
574
00:31:22,424 --> 00:31:27,670
like NSA, NRO, NGA, as
well as their contractors,
575
00:31:28,740 --> 00:31:31,640
do a deep dive into exactly
what these objects might be.
576
00:31:32,399 --> 00:31:34,781
And this was the
Orb Working Group.
577
00:31:34,815 --> 00:31:39,820
And so a report from a
Russian general at the time,
578
00:31:40,994 --> 00:31:44,101
retired now, his
name was Alexeyev.
579
00:31:44,135 --> 00:31:47,621
General Alexeyev wrote
that the Russian leadership
580
00:31:47,656 --> 00:31:51,038
wanted to attract these
objects using radars,
581
00:31:51,073 --> 00:31:52,937
and they found a way to do so.
582
00:32:03,154 --> 00:32:04,914
In 2016, my girlfriend and I
583
00:32:04,949 --> 00:32:09,022
were traveling across
the Center Bridge bridge
584
00:32:09,056 --> 00:32:12,888
from New Hope to
Stockton, New Jersey
585
00:32:12,922 --> 00:32:17,824
and out of the corner of my
eye, I saw five orange orbs.
586
00:32:18,756 --> 00:32:21,517
And so these lights just
came out of nowhere.
587
00:32:21,552 --> 00:32:23,864
And at first I
was trying to see,
588
00:32:23,899 --> 00:32:25,970
well, there's a
restaurant right there,
589
00:32:26,004 --> 00:32:28,352
could these possibly
be Chinese lanterns?
590
00:32:28,386 --> 00:32:30,837
Maybe there's a wedding going
on or something like that.
591
00:32:30,871 --> 00:32:32,942
And I'm like, well, wait a
minute, no, it's February
592
00:32:32,977 --> 00:32:34,772
and it's cold out
and there's no way
593
00:32:34,806 --> 00:32:36,877
there's gonna be any
kind of thing like that.
594
00:32:36,912 --> 00:32:39,501
So with that, I'm
fumbling to get my phone,
595
00:32:39,535 --> 00:32:40,916
to try to take a picture of it.
596
00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:42,987
And of course my flash
goes off of the phone
597
00:32:43,021 --> 00:32:45,472
and you know, but I was
able to get one shot.
598
00:32:45,507 --> 00:32:48,717
But she got a better look
at what was going on.
599
00:32:48,751 --> 00:32:50,650
And these things just appeared.
600
00:32:50,684 --> 00:32:52,893
There was five
lights, they appeared.
601
00:32:52,928 --> 00:32:56,725
And it looked like they did a
search pattern over the river.
602
00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:59,003
And then one by one,
they just petered out,
603
00:32:59,037 --> 00:33:00,660
one by one and disappeared.
604
00:33:00,694 --> 00:33:04,836
And I was able to get the
last one before it went away.
605
00:33:04,871 --> 00:33:06,735
One of the most
incredible nights,
606
00:33:06,769 --> 00:33:08,115
I could not believe
607
00:33:08,150 --> 00:33:10,428
that we actually saw
something like that.
608
00:33:12,534 --> 00:33:15,122
Some people get go real
deep into the rabbit hole,
609
00:33:15,157 --> 00:33:16,883
you know, as we call it,
610
00:33:16,917 --> 00:33:20,024
and things tend to happen
because you get so frustrated
611
00:33:20,025 --> 00:33:21,887
and you're thinking you're
working with the right people
612
00:33:21,888 --> 00:33:23,786
that come out and try to
leak your little stuff,
613
00:33:23,821 --> 00:33:27,204
but really they're most of the
time leaking disinformation.
614
00:33:27,238 --> 00:33:29,654
And that tends to hurt that
person, getting them confused,
615
00:33:29,655 --> 00:33:30,896
and they think they're
losing their mind.
616
00:33:30,897 --> 00:33:33,486
And we've seen this before.
617
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,902
We've seen people lose really
tight knit relationships
618
00:33:35,936 --> 00:33:38,905
with their wives,
married for 20, 30 years,
619
00:33:38,939 --> 00:33:41,666
over them coming out and
stating they've seen the UFO,
620
00:33:41,701 --> 00:33:42,805
just doing that.
621
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,532
And you don't see too many,
very doctors or scientists
622
00:33:45,567 --> 00:33:49,018
coming out themselves talking
about this subject, either.
623
00:33:49,053 --> 00:33:51,745
Or pilots, I mean, pilots
are one of the biggest,
624
00:33:51,780 --> 00:33:54,955
you know, witnesses that we
have today that come out.
625
00:33:54,990 --> 00:33:58,165
And the FAA tells them, you
know, report it, send it to us.
626
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,512
And it goes in a lockbox.
627
00:33:59,513 --> 00:34:00,822
And usually some people
will even show up
628
00:34:00,823 --> 00:34:02,756
and take the evidence,
they'll take,
629
00:34:02,757 --> 00:34:04,619
there's a little box that
goes in every little plane
630
00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:07,968
that records the radar systems,
just like in the Military.
631
00:34:07,969 --> 00:34:09,106
And what they'll do
is they'll come in
632
00:34:09,107 --> 00:34:10,488
and they'll take those boxes
633
00:34:10,523 --> 00:34:12,007
and then make them sign an NDA,
634
00:34:12,041 --> 00:34:13,733
nondisclosure agreement,
635
00:34:13,746 --> 00:34:15,906
saying that they can never
talk about this stuff again,
636
00:34:15,907 --> 00:34:19,048
which deters people from
reporting a UFO sighting.
637
00:34:19,083 --> 00:34:20,843
And that hurts the
community in a whole,
638
00:34:20,844 --> 00:34:22,706
because these people are
some of the top trained,
639
00:34:22,707 --> 00:34:24,122
most have military backgrounds,
640
00:34:24,157 --> 00:34:27,747
which is why they got into
flying planes like they have,
641
00:34:27,748 --> 00:34:28,712
so they know what
they're seeing,
642
00:34:28,713 --> 00:34:30,612
they're some of the
most credible witnesses
643
00:34:30,646 --> 00:34:32,269
we have in UFO field,
644
00:34:32,303 --> 00:34:34,892
and this is what's
being done to them.
645
00:34:34,926 --> 00:34:38,240
They're being deterred, not
to say what they're seeing.
646
00:34:38,275 --> 00:34:40,622
Big picture does
the Pentagon know
647
00:34:40,656 --> 00:34:41,899
more than they're saying?
648
00:34:42,865 --> 00:34:44,764
100%, 100%.
649
00:34:44,798 --> 00:34:46,800
And Leland, you had
George Will on earlier,
650
00:34:46,835 --> 00:34:49,147
he said, it's in
our country's DNA
651
00:34:49,148 --> 00:34:50,251
not to trust the government.
652
00:34:50,252 --> 00:34:51,771
And this is another example why.
653
00:34:51,805 --> 00:34:54,221
These are Navy pilots,
654
00:34:54,256 --> 00:34:56,154
these are the top
pilots in the world.
655
00:35:15,070 --> 00:35:18,073
I investigated other
sightings and incidents
656
00:35:18,107 --> 00:35:23,112
that involved UFOs or ETs during
my time from 1978 to 1988.
657
00:35:28,014 --> 00:35:32,812
In 1984, I was
assigned to Area 51.
658
00:35:33,813 --> 00:35:36,091
The public would
call it Area 51.
659
00:35:36,125 --> 00:35:39,646
It was Groom Lake
Complex in Nevada.
660
00:35:39,681 --> 00:35:43,581
It was actually a
Detachment 3, Air Force test
661
00:35:43,616 --> 00:35:48,552
and evaluation site, which
was the headquarters for that,
662
00:35:48,586 --> 00:35:50,588
was out of Edwards
Air Force Base.
663
00:35:52,003 --> 00:35:53,833
And out there while I was there,
664
00:35:53,867 --> 00:35:58,872
I also had access to information
pertaining to the UFOs,
665
00:35:59,425 --> 00:36:01,323
ET contacts that we had,
666
00:36:01,358 --> 00:36:04,775
and actually live ETs
that we had out there.
667
00:36:04,809 --> 00:36:07,329
Now, I didn't have
access to everything
668
00:36:07,364 --> 00:36:09,158
pertaining to that program.
669
00:36:09,193 --> 00:36:11,885
Special access programs
are very compartmented
670
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,129
in the military
and the government.
671
00:36:14,163 --> 00:36:16,338
So you only have access
672
00:36:16,373 --> 00:36:20,722
to parts of the
program, not all of it.
673
00:36:20,756 --> 00:36:25,623
But I was counterintelligence
officers for the base.
674
00:36:25,658 --> 00:36:30,663
And so I had to have access to
enough in order to do my job.
675
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:33,389
And one of the jobs of a
counterintelligence officer
676
00:36:33,390 --> 00:36:38,084
is what the general public
refers to as disinformation.
677
00:36:38,118 --> 00:36:40,638
We, United States government,
678
00:36:40,673 --> 00:36:43,020
especially the
counterintelligence officers,
679
00:36:43,054 --> 00:36:48,059
are trying to protect the
secrecy of what we're doing
680
00:36:48,750 --> 00:36:51,718
in research and
development projects,
681
00:36:51,753 --> 00:36:54,411
reverse engineering of a craft
682
00:36:54,445 --> 00:36:59,623
or developing some kind of
special weapons from the craft
683
00:37:00,313 --> 00:37:01,901
or some other technology.
684
00:37:02,798 --> 00:37:05,042
So during our protection
685
00:37:05,076 --> 00:37:09,287
of these highly
classified projects,
686
00:37:09,322 --> 00:37:12,774
what we're gonna do is we're
gonna develop a program
687
00:37:12,808 --> 00:37:14,810
to protect it from
a general public.
688
00:37:14,845 --> 00:37:18,435
So for instance, if you're
driving along some place
689
00:37:18,469 --> 00:37:22,369
close to a test range,
such as, we'll say,
690
00:37:22,404 --> 00:37:26,028
Highway 95 or
Highway 93 in Nevada,
691
00:37:26,063 --> 00:37:30,067
and you see something flying
out there that is exotic to you
692
00:37:30,101 --> 00:37:32,794
or not known to you,
693
00:37:32,801 --> 00:37:34,001
you're gonna immediately think
694
00:37:34,002 --> 00:37:38,938
it's either something developed
a highly classified object
695
00:37:40,008 --> 00:37:42,942
that we developed or it might
be an extraterrestrial craft.
696
00:37:44,426 --> 00:37:48,913
So depending on which way the
pendulum swings, so to speak,
697
00:37:48,948 --> 00:37:51,398
we'll try to convince
you one or the other,
698
00:37:51,433 --> 00:37:55,126
that what you saw
is actually a UFO,
699
00:37:56,507 --> 00:37:59,959
to protect the real project
that we're working on,
700
00:37:59,993 --> 00:38:02,202
which is maybe a
reverse engineering.
701
00:38:02,237 --> 00:38:04,066
It would be one of our crafts,
702
00:38:04,101 --> 00:38:06,206
but we're trying to
convince you, it was an ET.
703
00:38:06,241 --> 00:38:08,692
Now it also works
the other way around.
704
00:38:08,726 --> 00:38:11,142
You see something, we
try to convince you,
705
00:38:11,177 --> 00:38:13,213
when you actually see a
UFO and we know it's a UFO,
706
00:38:13,248 --> 00:38:16,872
we know it's an
extraterrestrial craft,
707
00:38:16,907 --> 00:38:20,082
we're gonna try to convince
you that it's one of ours.
708
00:38:20,083 --> 00:38:21,358
It's something we're developing,
709
00:38:21,359 --> 00:38:23,948
so you don't have to
say something about it.
710
00:38:23,983 --> 00:38:26,813
Or, hey, be a patriotic American
711
00:38:26,848 --> 00:38:29,989
and just be quiet
about what you saw,
712
00:38:30,023 --> 00:38:32,750
don't spread it around.
713
00:38:38,031 --> 00:38:41,103
You know, we have
a lot of hope now
714
00:38:41,138 --> 00:38:42,760
about disclosure, right,
715
00:38:42,795 --> 00:38:45,038
you've heard about
the term disclosure.
716
00:38:45,073 --> 00:38:48,007
The government has
created a, what they call,
717
00:38:48,041 --> 00:38:53,046
a Unidentified Aerial
Phenomenon Task Force.
718
00:38:53,875 --> 00:38:57,154
Well, what that is
going to turn out to be,
719
00:38:57,188 --> 00:39:01,468
I guarantee you, is to
keep the coverup going.
720
00:39:01,503 --> 00:39:04,989
And if they release information,
721
00:39:05,024 --> 00:39:08,130
they're supposed to periodically
release such information,
722
00:39:08,165 --> 00:39:12,134
they're housed into
the defense department.
723
00:39:12,169 --> 00:39:14,067
Periodically they're
supposed to report
724
00:39:14,102 --> 00:39:17,243
on findings of, they don't
call 'em the UFOs anymore,
725
00:39:17,277 --> 00:39:21,799
they call 'em UAPs,
unidentified aerial phenomenon.
726
00:39:21,834 --> 00:39:24,043
If they do bring up the subject
727
00:39:24,077 --> 00:39:29,082
of UFOs or UAPs, in any
context, I guarantee you,
728
00:39:30,221 --> 00:39:32,948
they will never
talk about Roswell,
729
00:39:32,983 --> 00:39:35,330
for two reasons, two reasons.
730
00:39:35,364 --> 00:39:38,160
One, it will prove that
they have been lying to us
731
00:39:38,195 --> 00:39:41,232
for 75 years as we speak.
732
00:39:41,267 --> 00:39:45,236
And two that they committed
civil rights violations
733
00:39:45,271 --> 00:39:46,583
to cover up the case.
734
00:39:46,617 --> 00:39:48,895
They will not talk
about Roswell.
735
00:39:48,930 --> 00:39:52,174
They have not talked
about Roswell since 1997.
736
00:39:52,209 --> 00:39:55,143
And they put out a monograph,
737
00:39:55,177 --> 00:39:57,421
a book called,
"Roswell Case Closed."
738
00:39:57,455 --> 00:39:59,457
They hoped it was case closed,
739
00:39:59,492 --> 00:40:03,013
but it's still opened as far
as the civilian investigation,
740
00:40:03,047 --> 00:40:07,086
myself and Donald
Schmidt is concerned.
741
00:40:09,364 --> 00:40:11,297
When Bill Clinton took office,
742
00:40:11,331 --> 00:40:14,300
he realized immediately
when he took office,
743
00:40:14,334 --> 00:40:17,130
that there was a government
within a government.
744
00:40:17,165 --> 00:40:21,445
So there's a lot of deeper
things here going on
745
00:40:21,479 --> 00:40:24,344
under the surface than
what we're seeing.
746
00:40:25,656 --> 00:40:27,209
And again, all of those guys,
747
00:40:27,244 --> 00:40:29,867
it's great that Lue
Elizondo and all those guys
748
00:40:29,902 --> 00:40:31,455
are bringing this
to the forefront
749
00:40:31,489 --> 00:40:33,181
and getting this information.
750
00:40:33,215 --> 00:40:36,046
But again, what's happening?
751
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,185
Are we getting any answers?
752
00:40:37,219 --> 00:40:38,876
I don't think so.
753
00:40:38,911 --> 00:40:43,053
I mean, it's there, I
think, almost people
754
00:40:43,087 --> 00:40:45,296
are becoming desensitized
to it as well,
755
00:40:45,331 --> 00:40:48,403
because it's just a
proliferation of these sightings
756
00:40:48,437 --> 00:40:52,062
that, "Oh, there's another UFO
sighting. there it is again."
757
00:40:52,096 --> 00:40:55,582
You know, until something
lands on the White House lawn,
758
00:40:55,583 --> 00:40:57,376
like it did in, "The Day
The Earth Stood Still"
759
00:40:57,377 --> 00:40:59,656
I think it's going
to be just that,
760
00:40:59,690 --> 00:41:02,279
it's gonna be an enigma,
it's gonna be ubiquitous,
761
00:41:02,313 --> 00:41:04,108
it's gonna be
there all the time.
762
00:41:04,143 --> 00:41:05,351
And that's what we do.
763
00:41:05,385 --> 00:41:07,180
That's what we're
searching for that answer
764
00:41:07,211 --> 00:41:08,491
all the time on
what it could be.
765
00:41:08,492 --> 00:41:10,632
And that is the
greatest mystery,
766
00:41:10,667 --> 00:41:12,876
what could it be, what is it?
767
00:41:14,256 --> 00:41:17,225
And I go back to another
case, which I love
768
00:41:17,259 --> 00:41:20,677
and I love to research,
was in the '50s,
769
00:41:20,711 --> 00:41:23,645
the Holloman Air Force
Base, UFO landing.
770
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,475
And apparently a UFO had landed,
771
00:41:26,510 --> 00:41:29,237
a crew was doing maneuvers
772
00:41:29,271 --> 00:41:31,688
and they were
filming the maneuvers
773
00:41:31,722 --> 00:41:36,900
and they had seen three
objects landing over the base.
774
00:41:38,087 --> 00:41:39,487
And one seemed to
be, it was wobbly,
775
00:41:39,488 --> 00:41:41,145
it was kind of like in trouble.
776
00:41:41,180 --> 00:41:44,252
Well, it came down and landed
and they filmed everything.
777
00:41:44,286 --> 00:41:46,081
They filmed this
thing coming out.
778
00:41:46,116 --> 00:41:48,118
And just outta Close Encounters,
779
00:41:48,152 --> 00:41:51,708
this thing landed, the tripod
came out, the door opened up,
780
00:41:51,742 --> 00:41:53,399
three of these beings came out.
781
00:41:53,433 --> 00:41:57,437
Now the description of these
guys was what made me think
782
00:41:57,472 --> 00:41:59,129
that this could be a real event
783
00:41:59,163 --> 00:42:01,338
because they weren't
the typical grays.
784
00:42:01,372 --> 00:42:03,202
These guys had big noses,
785
00:42:03,236 --> 00:42:07,309
they had weird like an African
wrap, something like a,
786
00:42:07,344 --> 00:42:10,347
they said it was a communication
device on their head.
787
00:42:10,381 --> 00:42:12,970
Weird, their eyes
were like ours,
788
00:42:13,005 --> 00:42:15,110
but they looked like
Egyptian-like eyes,
789
00:42:15,145 --> 00:42:18,735
but the pupils went like a
cats, they were up and down.
790
00:42:18,769 --> 00:42:21,565
And they had like blue
fitting jumpsuits on.
791
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:26,190
And so it was just the most
interesting description
792
00:42:26,225 --> 00:42:29,746
of an extraterrestrial that
you'd never heard about,
793
00:42:29,780 --> 00:42:31,471
you've never heard about this.
794
00:42:31,506 --> 00:42:34,095
But supposedly they have
film footage of this.
795
00:42:34,129 --> 00:42:36,753
Well, what happened was
there was a film crew,
796
00:42:36,787 --> 00:42:39,134
when Nixon took
office, he was going to
797
00:42:39,169 --> 00:42:41,447
disclose all of the
UFO information.
798
00:42:41,475 --> 00:42:43,275
He was gonna get it out
to the public and say,
799
00:42:43,276 --> 00:42:45,244
"Look, this is what's going on.
800
00:42:45,278 --> 00:42:47,280
"We do know that they're real."
801
00:42:47,315 --> 00:42:51,284
He put a documentary
film crew together
802
00:42:51,319 --> 00:42:53,493
and they were gonna
put together a video
803
00:42:53,528 --> 00:42:56,531
called, "UFO's Past,
Present & Future."
804
00:42:56,565 --> 00:43:00,604
They hired Robert Emenegger,
who was a director,
805
00:43:00,638 --> 00:43:03,987
and he was told he could
get 600 feet of this footage
806
00:43:04,021 --> 00:43:05,747
of this UFO that landed,
807
00:43:05,782 --> 00:43:08,232
that they could put
into the documentary.
808
00:43:08,267 --> 00:43:11,511
Well, when it came time
to go get the footage,
809
00:43:11,546 --> 00:43:13,306
it mysteriously disappeared.
810
00:43:14,583 --> 00:43:18,001
But apparently about
12, 13 seconds of it
811
00:43:18,035 --> 00:43:19,657
made it into the documentary.
812
00:43:19,692 --> 00:43:21,590
Somehow it made it
into the documentary.
813
00:43:21,625 --> 00:43:23,489
And you could see
this white dot,
814
00:43:23,523 --> 00:43:27,286
just coming down to the tarmac.
815
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,771
You know, were they trying
to get that out there?
816
00:43:29,806 --> 00:43:33,119
Were they trying to say
then, "This really happened?
817
00:43:33,154 --> 00:43:36,053
"Well, let's put it in a
way that we're not gonna say
818
00:43:36,088 --> 00:43:39,263
"that it truly happened,
but it could have happened."
819
00:43:39,293 --> 00:43:41,333
It's all of these different
things that we've gotta,
820
00:43:41,334 --> 00:43:43,198
you know, kind of
like go through,
821
00:43:43,233 --> 00:43:46,029
all these different layers of,
822
00:43:46,063 --> 00:43:49,342
you know, I don't wanna say
lies, but yeah, lies, deception,
823
00:43:50,585 --> 00:43:54,347
you know, kind of
manufacturing the truth.
824
00:43:55,624 --> 00:43:57,281
And that's been the
greatest mystery,
825
00:43:57,316 --> 00:44:00,353
it's like, what is the answer?
826
00:44:05,427 --> 00:44:07,809
Everything the
government does has a plan.
827
00:44:07,844 --> 00:44:10,329
You can't really do
much in the government
828
00:44:10,363 --> 00:44:13,470
without some sort of
an operational plan.
829
00:44:13,504 --> 00:44:16,231
So when we try to protect
830
00:44:16,266 --> 00:44:19,303
a technology research
and development project,
831
00:44:19,338 --> 00:44:23,721
an exotic weapon
system, we plan it.
832
00:44:23,756 --> 00:44:26,655
Most of the planning is
done at headquarters,
833
00:44:26,690 --> 00:44:28,450
and then it filtered down
834
00:44:28,485 --> 00:44:32,420
to the counter intelligence
officer at the base level.
835
00:44:32,454 --> 00:44:36,148
And we implement that program
that is sent down to us.
836
00:44:36,182 --> 00:44:39,151
That was my role as
counterintelligence officer.
837
00:44:39,185 --> 00:44:43,431
Now there's numerous projects
and special access programs,
838
00:44:43,465 --> 00:44:46,779
I've worked on, that
are still classified.
839
00:44:46,813 --> 00:44:50,334
I'm not gonna hide the fact
that we United States government
840
00:44:50,369 --> 00:44:54,166
knows about
extraterrestrial races,
841
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:59,205
about exotic technology that
had been given to us by ETs,
842
00:45:00,206 --> 00:45:02,243
the fact that our planet
has been visited by ETs
843
00:45:02,277 --> 00:45:05,315
for probably thousands of years.
844
00:45:05,316 --> 00:45:06,763
Now, remember I mentioned
that we had an ET
845
00:45:06,764 --> 00:45:11,666
in captivity from 1947 to 1952,
846
00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:16,360
was codename EBE, for
Extraterrestrial Biological Entity.
847
00:45:16,395 --> 00:45:20,157
He was able to communicate
eventually with us.
848
00:45:20,192 --> 00:45:23,298
Now, you have to
understand that an ET
849
00:45:24,541 --> 00:45:29,132
is not familiar with our
technology, our science, our time,
850
00:45:29,166 --> 00:45:31,548
nothing about our society.
851
00:45:31,582 --> 00:45:33,515
So it was very difficult for us
852
00:45:33,550 --> 00:45:37,450
to obtain information
from him, it was a male.
853
00:45:37,485 --> 00:45:41,834
Initially EBE was willing
to provide the information,
854
00:45:41,868 --> 00:45:43,456
but the communications process
855
00:45:43,491 --> 00:45:45,700
was very slow during
that time period.
856
00:45:45,734 --> 00:45:50,325
Number one, he couldn't
speak English obviously,
857
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,259
and we couldn't
speak his language.
858
00:45:53,294 --> 00:45:58,299
And his biology and anatomy
859
00:45:59,403 --> 00:46:01,578
was highly different
from a human.
860
00:46:01,612 --> 00:46:03,890
So our scientists or doctors,
861
00:46:03,925 --> 00:46:08,447
our very, very smart physicians
862
00:46:08,481 --> 00:46:12,796
developed an implant to
put it into his neck,
863
00:46:12,830 --> 00:46:16,593
which allowed him
to say our words.
864
00:46:16,627 --> 00:46:21,563
Before that he couldn't
pronounce any of our words
865
00:46:21,598 --> 00:46:24,394
because of the way
his vocal chords
866
00:46:24,428 --> 00:46:29,433
or his anatomy
existed in his throat.
867
00:46:30,089 --> 00:46:31,470
But we developed a way to do it.
868
00:46:32,436 --> 00:46:36,475
Very smart, EBE was very
smart, extremely intelligent,
869
00:46:36,509 --> 00:46:39,374
and he was able to
learn number one,
870
00:46:39,409 --> 00:46:42,308
our math really
easy, our language,
871
00:46:42,343 --> 00:46:46,588
at least not all of it, but
enough to communicate with us
872
00:46:46,623 --> 00:46:51,559
and enough to relate to us some
of the things that he could,
873
00:46:51,593 --> 00:46:55,632
that was somewhat similar
on his planet to our planet.
874
00:47:36,707 --> 00:47:40,504
An officer in the Office
of the Chief Scientist
875
00:47:40,539 --> 00:47:43,818
and the Directorate of Science
and Technology approached me.
876
00:47:43,852 --> 00:47:47,442
This is someone I knew,
that I worked with before
877
00:47:47,477 --> 00:47:51,067
in a field called
scientific visualization.
878
00:47:51,068 --> 00:47:52,136
And he said, "There's
gonna be an interesting,
879
00:47:52,137 --> 00:47:55,657
one-day symposium that
you might want to attend."
880
00:47:55,692 --> 00:47:57,901
"It's gonna be at this hotel
881
00:47:57,935 --> 00:47:59,903
and it's gonna be on this date."
882
00:47:59,937 --> 00:48:01,939
There were three
topics on the agenda.
883
00:48:03,113 --> 00:48:06,634
It was sponsored by
an office at CIA,
884
00:48:06,635 --> 00:48:07,530
which was highly placed,
885
00:48:07,531 --> 00:48:11,087
and we should have
known these topics.
886
00:48:11,121 --> 00:48:16,057
These topics were the UFO
studies done by CIA in the past,
887
00:48:18,542 --> 00:48:21,683
the existence of alien hybrids
888
00:48:21,718 --> 00:48:24,755
and CIA's interest in
alien hybridization
889
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:26,619
of the human genome.
890
00:48:26,654 --> 00:48:28,552
And the third topic was about
891
00:48:28,587 --> 00:48:33,074
an information technology
explosion that will happen
892
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:37,527
where this information will
be disseminated very rapidly
893
00:48:38,666 --> 00:48:41,669
with devices that
were not yet invented,
894
00:48:41,703 --> 00:48:44,120
far better than any of
the cell phones we had
895
00:48:44,154 --> 00:48:45,638
back in the day.
896
00:48:45,673 --> 00:48:46,593
This was the first time
897
00:48:46,605 --> 00:48:49,884
where I actually got
an official briefing
898
00:48:49,918 --> 00:48:52,783
on anything to do with UFOs.
899
00:48:52,818 --> 00:48:54,613
And in the briefing,
900
00:48:54,647 --> 00:48:58,444
it was stated that the
McMinnville, Oregon UFO
901
00:48:58,479 --> 00:48:59,997
was an actual UFO.
902
00:49:01,171 --> 00:49:03,622
The briefer said
a lot of the UFOs
903
00:49:03,656 --> 00:49:06,452
seen during the '50s and '60s,
904
00:49:06,487 --> 00:49:08,903
when CIA was testing
its aircraft,
905
00:49:08,937 --> 00:49:13,356
that is the U-2 and
the A-12 OXCART,
906
00:49:13,390 --> 00:49:16,117
they were identified as UFOs
by observers on the ground
907
00:49:16,152 --> 00:49:20,432
because the test
craft were silver.
908
00:49:21,433 --> 00:49:24,712
They were not black, there
were not black planes at all,
909
00:49:24,746 --> 00:49:27,404
during the testing
phase, they were silver.
910
00:49:27,439 --> 00:49:30,545
So when you see something
streaking across the sky
911
00:49:30,580 --> 00:49:34,377
at 70,000 or 80,000
feet, that was silver,
912
00:49:34,411 --> 00:49:38,415
a lot of observers thought
that they were UFOs.
913
00:49:38,450 --> 00:49:41,142
And CIA thought back then that,
914
00:49:41,177 --> 00:49:45,905
"Okay, that's fine, if
they identify them as UFOs,
915
00:49:45,940 --> 00:49:47,700
that's just hiding
in plain sight
916
00:49:47,735 --> 00:49:50,669
these special aircraft
that we were working on,
917
00:49:50,703 --> 00:49:53,844
we don't care if they
identify it as UFOs."
918
00:49:53,879 --> 00:49:58,159
And so the McMinnville
UFO was a real UFO
919
00:49:58,194 --> 00:50:02,715
that occurred in 1950
before the first U-2 flew.
920
00:50:06,788 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaking about the government
report that they put out,
921
00:50:13,450 --> 00:50:16,073
I believe it was June
25th of last year,
922
00:50:16,108 --> 00:50:21,113
that report unfortunately
was not historical in nature.
923
00:50:22,494 --> 00:50:26,601
They only covered
cases since 2014,
924
00:50:27,913 --> 00:50:32,676
namely these gun
videos of the Navy.
925
00:50:34,816 --> 00:50:38,579
It did not have any
Air Force cases.
926
00:50:38,613 --> 00:50:42,928
And it was only limited to
114 cases that they looked at.
927
00:50:44,170 --> 00:50:46,242
They couldn't explain,
928
00:50:46,276 --> 00:50:49,797
113 of them, were
still unexplainable.
929
00:50:50,832 --> 00:50:52,662
The one that they could explain,
930
00:50:52,696 --> 00:50:56,148
turned out to be a weather
balloon, of all things.
931
00:50:56,182 --> 00:51:01,153
So the other thing about this
whole phenomenon since 2017,
932
00:51:04,087 --> 00:51:07,470
is that the Air Force
has said nothing,
933
00:51:07,504 --> 00:51:09,541
it's all been a Navy show.
934
00:51:09,575 --> 00:51:13,890
And this UAP Task Force that
they're putting together
935
00:51:13,924 --> 00:51:18,688
is a Navy CIA thing, the Air
Force is not mentioned at all.
936
00:51:18,722 --> 00:51:20,828
And that's where
all the cases are,
937
00:51:20,862 --> 00:51:24,763
the historical cases,
Roswell, Rendlesham Forest,
938
00:51:24,797 --> 00:51:27,869
the other good one, they
didn't even look at those
939
00:51:27,904 --> 00:51:31,494
because they would have to
admit too much suppression,
940
00:51:31,528 --> 00:51:35,498
too many laws that they
broke to suppress those,
941
00:51:35,532 --> 00:51:37,120
especially Roswell.
942
00:51:37,154 --> 00:51:41,745
The Air Force has not
spoken since 1997,
943
00:51:41,780 --> 00:51:45,784
which was the 50th anniversary
of the Roswell case.
944
00:51:47,924 --> 00:51:51,099
So all the way back when
Roswell first occurred,
945
00:51:51,134 --> 00:51:53,136
the newspapers
put a headline out
946
00:51:53,170 --> 00:51:55,207
and stating the truth of
what actually occurred.
947
00:51:55,241 --> 00:51:57,796
The rancher came forward,
being a good citizen,
948
00:51:57,830 --> 00:51:59,729
thinking he was doing
the right thing,
949
00:51:59,736 --> 00:52:00,936
but immediately the day after,
950
00:52:00,937 --> 00:52:03,042
actually within
the same 24 hours,
951
00:52:03,077 --> 00:52:05,251
the narrative was changed.
952
00:52:05,286 --> 00:52:07,771
And this guy was made to sign
953
00:52:07,806 --> 00:52:09,048
this non-disclosure agreement.
954
00:52:09,083 --> 00:52:12,293
He was held for six days,
almost a whole week,
955
00:52:12,328 --> 00:52:14,606
being tortured and
talked to in ways
956
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,780
to not describe what
happened on his ranch.
957
00:52:16,815 --> 00:52:19,093
When he was released, we
know he was paid money,
958
00:52:19,127 --> 00:52:21,785
he showed up in a brand new
truck a couple weeks later.
959
00:52:21,820 --> 00:52:23,925
And he never spoke
about it again.
960
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,582
Now there's a lot of people,
961
00:52:25,617 --> 00:52:27,757
and he wishes he never
went back and told anybody
962
00:52:27,791 --> 00:52:28,861
about what happened.
963
00:52:28,896 --> 00:52:31,554
He says this to this day,
well, until he passed away.
964
00:52:31,588 --> 00:52:33,349
But now who was
to blame for this?
965
00:52:33,383 --> 00:52:34,971
Who are we gonna go after?
966
00:52:35,005 --> 00:52:36,766
Should they be paid
for their losses
967
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,631
and everything that they've
went through and lost?
968
00:52:39,665 --> 00:52:41,943
It might not happen
because these people
969
00:52:41,978 --> 00:52:45,809
are so into the black market
and so deep into the government
970
00:52:45,844 --> 00:52:48,812
that we can't even
get FOIA requests out
971
00:52:48,847 --> 00:52:52,126
because they're in private
industries doing this work.
972
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,992
So it's hard to find who is
really responsible for this.
973
00:52:55,993 --> 00:52:57,337
Does the president
know about this?
974
00:52:57,338 --> 00:52:58,719
I don't believe so,
975
00:52:58,753 --> 00:53:00,306
because he only does
it four-year term,
976
00:53:00,341 --> 00:53:02,792
it gets done again,
it's a full eight years.
977
00:53:02,826 --> 00:53:06,036
So would they really
debrief him on all this?
978
00:53:06,071 --> 00:53:08,004
I don't really think so.
979
00:53:08,038 --> 00:53:10,213
So I think it goes way
deeper than the president.
980
00:53:10,247 --> 00:53:12,077
And I believe it
goes into the CIA
981
00:53:12,111 --> 00:53:13,837
and little private
industries like this,
982
00:53:13,872 --> 00:53:16,909
where they can do this work
and not have to answer for it.
983
00:53:16,944 --> 00:53:19,947
Because this happens all the
time with every kind of thing,
984
00:53:19,981 --> 00:53:22,812
not even just the UFO
phenomenon, they do this with.
985
00:53:22,846 --> 00:53:24,745
Even if they do
disclose everything,
986
00:53:24,779 --> 00:53:27,403
I don't think everybody
will be given the respect
987
00:53:27,437 --> 00:53:31,199
that they deserve back because
it is so deep like this.
988
00:53:32,787 --> 00:53:34,789
People have gone down this
rabbit hole many times
989
00:53:34,824 --> 00:53:38,034
and they come out on the
dark side in all this,
990
00:53:38,068 --> 00:53:39,932
because they know that
they'll never win.
991
00:53:39,933 --> 00:53:41,933
And it's a shame because
it shouldn't be like that.
992
00:53:41,934 --> 00:53:44,040
We live in a free
world where, you know,
993
00:53:44,074 --> 00:53:46,042
it's free speech,
we're allowed to vote.
994
00:53:46,076 --> 00:53:48,941
We should be able to know, we
pay these people in Congress
995
00:53:48,976 --> 00:53:52,842
and our government to work
for us, to speak for us,
996
00:53:52,876 --> 00:53:55,396
to do things to help this
country move forward.
997
00:53:55,431 --> 00:53:57,398
Yet we're stumped when we get
998
00:53:57,433 --> 00:54:00,677
this intelligence thing going on
999
00:54:00,712 --> 00:54:02,886
where they wanna hide
everything all the time.
1000
00:54:02,887 --> 00:54:04,059
I don't think we'll
ever fully get
1001
00:54:04,060 --> 00:54:06,994
a full disclosure from the
government, in my opinion.
1002
00:54:07,028 --> 00:54:10,929
I just think that if they did
that, it would ruin religion,
1003
00:54:10,963 --> 00:54:13,345
it would ruin the government
and the oil products
1004
00:54:13,379 --> 00:54:15,002
that we get from overseas.
1005
00:54:15,036 --> 00:54:17,453
And that's what the government
does, they hide stuff.
1006
00:54:17,487 --> 00:54:18,971
If it was a religion aspect,
1007
00:54:19,006 --> 00:54:21,905
people would not know what
to believe in anymore.
1008
00:54:21,918 --> 00:54:23,078
They believed all their lives
1009
00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:25,944
about a Christian, Catholic,
you know, whatever it is.
1010
00:54:25,978 --> 00:54:28,153
And then you come down
to hearing that aliens,
1011
00:54:28,187 --> 00:54:31,052
other life out there, I
mean, that can ruin a person.
1012
00:54:31,087 --> 00:54:33,365
But see if the government
came out long ago
1013
00:54:33,399 --> 00:54:35,039
and disclosed this,
like they should have,
1014
00:54:35,056 --> 00:54:37,749
we wouldn't have these
problems or these issues today.
1015
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,826
Based on what he could
eventually explain to us
1016
00:54:45,860 --> 00:54:48,000
and what we could teach him,
1017
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,763
we found that he's
been visiting earth
1018
00:54:51,797 --> 00:54:54,282
or his species been
visiting earth,
1019
00:54:54,317 --> 00:54:58,010
or our solar system I should
say, for about 2,000 years.
1020
00:54:58,839 --> 00:55:02,083
So that of course brings
up the big question
1021
00:55:02,118 --> 00:55:05,846
that people ask is,
"Wow, was he here
1022
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,089
around the time Jesus was here?"
1023
00:55:08,124 --> 00:55:13,129
Now that's a very touchy,
conversational piece
1024
00:55:13,785 --> 00:55:15,165
to talk to the general public,
1025
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,823
especially somebody
who's religious.
1026
00:55:17,858 --> 00:55:22,276
If they think that ET
planted a being on earth,
1027
00:55:22,310 --> 00:55:25,866
2,000 years ago, immediately
they're gonna think
1028
00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:27,005
it was Jesus.
1029
00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:32,079
And was Jesus preaching,
not the gospel, so to speak,
1030
00:55:32,113 --> 00:55:35,841
but their gospel
or their belief.
1031
00:55:35,876 --> 00:55:38,154
One thing we did find,
which is astonishing
1032
00:55:38,188 --> 00:55:43,193
was that, although EBE
didn't talk about a God,
1033
00:55:45,437 --> 00:55:47,508
he talked about a supreme being,
1034
00:55:48,820 --> 00:55:50,822
and they did worship
a supreme being,
1035
00:55:50,856 --> 00:55:55,861
similar to the way we
worship God or Muhammad
1036
00:55:57,242 --> 00:55:59,934
or other religions.
1037
00:55:59,969 --> 00:56:03,420
He showed us something in
the craft that related,
1038
00:56:03,455 --> 00:56:07,114
it was a figurine that
they would worship,
1039
00:56:07,148 --> 00:56:10,980
similar to what we would
worship a sculpture or something
1040
00:56:11,014 --> 00:56:13,189
of God or Jesus.
1041
00:56:13,223 --> 00:56:17,434
And there's other things that
he was able to explain to us
1042
00:56:17,469 --> 00:56:19,816
that we found in their craft.
1043
00:56:19,851 --> 00:56:22,060
Now, you gotta understand
that their technology
1044
00:56:22,094 --> 00:56:25,304
was probably 50,000
years ahead of us.
1045
00:56:25,339 --> 00:56:28,791
So we couldn't understand
their technology.
1046
00:56:29,550 --> 00:56:31,000
It was difficult sometimes,
1047
00:56:31,034 --> 00:56:33,002
for him to understand
our technology,
1048
00:56:34,210 --> 00:56:36,764
different planet,
different species.
1049
00:56:37,938 --> 00:56:43,150
And so we taught him what we
could from our civilization
1050
00:56:45,393 --> 00:56:48,155
and he taught us what
he could from his.
1051
00:56:52,504 --> 00:56:55,162
I mean, you know,
going back to, you know,
1052
00:56:55,169 --> 00:56:56,369
the Mercury Theater in the era
1053
00:56:56,370 --> 00:56:59,822
and what was that, that was
the Orson Welles' adaptation
1054
00:56:59,856 --> 00:57:02,376
of H. G. Wells'
"War of the Worlds."
1055
00:57:02,377 --> 00:57:04,342
So, "War of the Worlds" what
was that supposed to be?
1056
00:57:04,343 --> 00:57:08,589
Well, all of a sudden aliens
landed, Martians landed,
1057
00:57:08,624 --> 00:57:11,109
in Grovers Mill, New Jersey.
1058
00:57:11,143 --> 00:57:15,976
And, you know, what was
stated in the newspapers
1059
00:57:16,010 --> 00:57:19,393
and what actually happened
were two different things.
1060
00:57:20,566 --> 00:57:23,397
You know, they were
supposedly, you know,
1061
00:57:23,431 --> 00:57:25,192
there was mass panic,
there was people
1062
00:57:25,226 --> 00:57:27,125
that were like going crazy
1063
00:57:27,159 --> 00:57:30,093
and there was just
mass bedlam everywhere.
1064
00:57:30,128 --> 00:57:32,268
Well, that never happened,
it never happened.
1065
00:57:32,302 --> 00:57:35,029
But news made it happen.
1066
00:57:35,064 --> 00:57:36,997
It was fake news back then.
1067
00:57:37,031 --> 00:57:39,344
And as a matter of
fact, Frank Stanton,
1068
00:57:39,378 --> 00:57:41,657
who basically he
was the, I think,
1069
00:57:41,691 --> 00:57:44,660
the president of
Princeton, New Jersey,
1070
00:57:44,694 --> 00:57:47,663
and this was the Mercury
Theater of the era,
1071
00:57:47,697 --> 00:57:49,388
and that adaptation was funded
1072
00:57:49,423 --> 00:57:51,632
by the Rockefeller Foundation.
1073
00:57:51,667 --> 00:57:54,255
And what happened
was Frank Stanton
1074
00:57:54,290 --> 00:57:56,292
was upset that they
weren't causing the panic
1075
00:57:56,326 --> 00:58:00,054
that they were hoping the
cause, you know, through that.
1076
00:58:00,089 --> 00:58:02,194
Even though every half hour,
1077
00:58:02,229 --> 00:58:05,370
the radio would come on and say,
1078
00:58:05,404 --> 00:58:08,856
"This is an adaptation of H.G.
Wells' War of the Worlds."
1079
00:58:10,030 --> 00:58:13,102
But what the news
stated at that time,
1080
00:58:13,136 --> 00:58:16,346
that there was like mass
bedlam happening and craziness.
1081
00:58:16,381 --> 00:58:18,245
But it's just amazing to me
1082
00:58:18,279 --> 00:58:22,663
how you can have two
different opinions
1083
00:58:22,698 --> 00:58:24,907
of an event that took place.
1084
00:58:24,941 --> 00:58:27,116
And, one that really happened.
1085
00:58:27,150 --> 00:58:29,635
and one that really
didn't happen.
1086
00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:31,189
You know, this could be,
1087
00:58:31,223 --> 00:58:34,226
it's manufactured
news at that point.
1088
00:58:34,261 --> 00:58:36,642
You know, it could
be manufactured
1089
00:58:36,677 --> 00:58:39,231
to suit the needs
of a certain few
1090
00:58:40,474 --> 00:58:42,338
and keep everybody
on their toes.
1091
00:58:42,372 --> 00:58:45,272
Because again, what did we
have going on around that time?
1092
00:58:45,306 --> 00:58:46,342
World War II.
1093
00:58:47,757 --> 00:58:50,346
So I always think about
that and think to myself,
1094
00:58:50,380 --> 00:58:51,623
wow, you know, it's like,
1095
00:58:53,176 --> 00:58:55,351
there were two very
different things going on.
1096
00:58:55,385 --> 00:58:59,286
And we're just finding out
what the real story is today.
1097
00:59:00,736 --> 00:59:02,323
If was just the craft,
1098
00:59:02,358 --> 00:59:04,601
I think the government
would readily disclose that.
1099
00:59:06,258 --> 00:59:08,329
And yes, there were outer
space beings on the craft,
1100
00:59:08,364 --> 00:59:11,574
I think the government would
disclose that eventually.
1101
00:59:11,608 --> 00:59:15,198
But the fact that
these beings had DNA
1102
00:59:15,233 --> 00:59:17,373
that was found in
the human genome,
1103
00:59:17,407 --> 00:59:20,238
I think that is the
actual secret of Roswell.
1104
00:59:20,272 --> 00:59:23,310
I think that is a core
secret of why the government
1105
00:59:23,344 --> 00:59:25,726
will not talk about Roswell.
1106
00:59:25,761 --> 00:59:30,938
All humans are in fact
alien DNA enhanced,
1107
00:59:32,319 --> 00:59:36,737
but others were more
enhanced than most humans.
1108
00:59:36,772 --> 00:59:39,222
And that these more
enhanced humans
1109
00:59:39,257 --> 00:59:41,673
were of particular
interest to CIA.
1110
00:59:42,605 --> 00:59:46,057
Now, I didn't put it
all together back then,
1111
00:59:47,127 --> 00:59:51,648
but now I believe that this
is part of the Roswell story
1112
00:59:51,683 --> 00:59:53,340
that was never told,
1113
00:59:53,374 --> 00:59:56,999
that whatever
craft was recovered
1114
00:59:57,033 --> 01:00:01,244
and that whoever the
occupants were in that craft,
1115
01:00:01,279 --> 01:00:03,626
that when the scientists
1116
01:00:03,660 --> 01:00:06,698
were able to sequence
the human genome
1117
01:00:08,286 --> 01:00:13,291
and then went back at
CIA to look at the genome
1118
01:00:13,947 --> 01:00:16,432
of any recovered alien beings,
1119
01:00:16,466 --> 01:00:18,468
they were surprised to find
1120
01:00:18,503 --> 01:00:23,508
that what the alien DNA looked
like was also in humans.
1121
01:00:24,681 --> 01:00:26,373
But this was the way
I connected the dots,
1122
01:00:26,407 --> 01:00:28,582
because I wanted to understand
1123
01:00:28,616 --> 01:00:31,378
exactly what Roswell
was all about.
1124
01:00:31,412 --> 01:00:36,279
Why is it such a secret that
a spacecraft from outer space
1125
01:00:36,314 --> 01:00:40,352
crashed and there may have
been occupants on board,
1126
01:00:40,387 --> 01:00:43,390
why is that such
a military secret?
1127
01:00:43,424 --> 01:00:46,324
Of course you can say
it was the Cold War.
1128
01:00:46,358 --> 01:00:49,706
But the Cold War has
been over since 1991,
1129
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,814
when the Soviet Union fell.
1130
01:00:53,849 --> 01:00:57,714
And still there's this
secrecy over Roswell,
1131
01:00:57,749 --> 01:01:00,269
that particular incident
1132
01:01:00,303 --> 01:01:02,478
that the government
has never addressed.
1133
01:01:05,722 --> 01:01:08,587
So we, the United
States government,
1134
01:01:08,622 --> 01:01:13,592
knew of some instances where
we had captured a hybrid.
1135
01:01:15,491 --> 01:01:18,080
We took him into
captivity, so to speak,
1136
01:01:18,114 --> 01:01:23,119
because we knew that
this person was a hybrid.
1137
01:01:24,293 --> 01:01:28,228
It was a male, he had
been bred in a tube,
1138
01:01:29,436 --> 01:01:32,197
at a facility that we
later found out about.
1139
01:01:32,232 --> 01:01:33,889
Examining this person,
1140
01:01:33,923 --> 01:01:38,548
both physiologically
and biologically,
1141
01:01:38,583 --> 01:01:41,827
taking blood samples
and tissue samples,
1142
01:01:43,657 --> 01:01:46,453
our scientists came
to the conclusion
1143
01:01:46,487 --> 01:01:48,593
that this person was
in fact a hybrid.
1144
01:01:52,562 --> 01:01:54,426
The Roswell crash,
1145
01:01:56,497 --> 01:01:59,707
according to our investigation
of over 30 years,
1146
01:02:01,295 --> 01:02:04,333
contained five crew members
1147
01:02:04,367 --> 01:02:08,199
or Extraterrestrial
Biological Entities,
1148
01:02:08,233 --> 01:02:09,683
as they like to be called.
1149
01:02:09,717 --> 01:02:13,411
Four of them expired
when the ship blew up,
1150
01:02:13,445 --> 01:02:16,828
on July the 2nd,
1947, we believe.
1151
01:02:16,862 --> 01:02:19,727
One survived the crash and lived
1152
01:02:19,762 --> 01:02:23,524
for a number of
years, post-crash.
1153
01:02:23,559 --> 01:02:25,733
We don't know
exactly when it died,
1154
01:02:25,768 --> 01:02:29,185
but the information we
have is that it expired
1155
01:02:29,220 --> 01:02:32,361
during some experiment they
were doing with it or on it.
1156
01:02:32,395 --> 01:02:35,536
And according to
a former commander
1157
01:02:35,571 --> 01:02:38,470
of the Air Materiel Command
1158
01:02:38,505 --> 01:02:40,679
at Wright-Patterson
Air Force Base,
1159
01:02:40,714 --> 01:02:45,719
who on his deathbed said
that they were stored
1160
01:02:46,962 --> 01:02:51,173
at the Dugway Proving Grounds,
which is a lot like Area 51.
1161
01:02:52,312 --> 01:02:54,452
That the beings that
all five of them
1162
01:02:54,486 --> 01:02:57,696
were being stored at
Dugway Proving Grounds,
1163
01:02:57,731 --> 01:02:59,940
near Ogden, Utah.
1164
01:02:59,975 --> 01:03:03,185
It's been recently speculated
1165
01:03:03,219 --> 01:03:06,429
that one of the
reasons for the coverup
1166
01:03:06,464 --> 01:03:11,434
was that the beings
contained DNA of some sort
1167
01:03:12,849 --> 01:03:17,406
that showed human traits,
homo sapiens traits.
1168
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,788
I believe the fossil
record is fairly clear
1169
01:03:20,823 --> 01:03:23,412
of our evolutionary track.
1170
01:03:23,446 --> 01:03:28,210
Where something like
this DNA hypothesis,
1171
01:03:28,244 --> 01:03:31,213
sharing human
genes of some sort,
1172
01:03:32,283 --> 01:03:35,527
you have to have more than
just speculation on that.
1173
01:03:35,562 --> 01:03:38,323
I think, you know, as
far as the hybrid situation
1174
01:03:38,358 --> 01:03:40,532
and monitoring what we're doing
1175
01:03:40,567 --> 01:03:44,847
and what the extraterrestrials
could possibly be.
1176
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,540
I mean, one conjecture
was, was really incredible,
1177
01:03:48,575 --> 01:03:51,716
was could they be
us from the future?
1178
01:03:51,750 --> 01:03:53,925
And I thought that was
brilliant, you know,
1179
01:03:53,959 --> 01:03:56,514
'cause that's what
they actually thought
1180
01:03:56,548 --> 01:03:59,965
when they did this
research in Roswell,
1181
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,451
that they thought maybe
they were time travelers,
1182
01:04:02,485 --> 01:04:05,592
they were time travelers and
they were us from the future.
1183
01:04:05,626 --> 01:04:10,355
The study about time
compression is very interesting.
1184
01:04:10,390 --> 01:04:14,877
For 30 years of my 31 years
investigation of Roswell,
1185
01:04:14,911 --> 01:04:17,742
I never considered
where they were from,
1186
01:04:17,776 --> 01:04:22,781
they the occupants
of the spaceship,
1187
01:04:23,364 --> 01:04:24,644
where they might have been from.
1188
01:04:24,645 --> 01:04:27,614
So along about a
year or two ago,
1189
01:04:27,648 --> 01:04:32,653
I interviewed the two sons of
one of the Paperclip Germans
1190
01:04:33,827 --> 01:04:36,968
who were brought over
after World War II,
1191
01:04:37,002 --> 01:04:39,039
a rocket scientist,
1192
01:04:39,074 --> 01:04:41,938
you know, Wernher von
Braun and his crew.
1193
01:04:41,973 --> 01:04:46,357
Well, second in command of these
Paperclip rocket scientists
1194
01:04:46,391 --> 01:04:48,911
was a fella named
Ernst Steinhoff.
1195
01:04:48,945 --> 01:04:53,950
So it was extra temporal
according to Ernst Steinhoff.
1196
01:04:54,882 --> 01:04:57,920
Well, I know they can't
get here from there
1197
01:04:57,954 --> 01:05:02,787
because it's the space time
continuum in the universe,
1198
01:05:02,821 --> 01:05:04,064
it's too great.
1199
01:05:04,099 --> 01:05:08,689
But they had to compress
the space time continuum
1200
01:05:08,724 --> 01:05:11,347
to maybe jump from
one to the other,
1201
01:05:11,382 --> 01:05:14,316
without having to spend a
thousand years to get here.
1202
01:05:14,350 --> 01:05:16,835
This Navy commander, who's
name was George Hoover,
1203
01:05:16,870 --> 01:05:20,425
he was on Wernher von Braun's,
1204
01:05:21,392 --> 01:05:25,534
he was in his group
studying UFOs and Roswell
1205
01:05:25,568 --> 01:05:26,845
and things like that.
1206
01:05:27,984 --> 01:05:29,986
Well, you know,
Roswell was a crash
1207
01:05:31,402 --> 01:05:34,543
of a ship from somewhere else.
1208
01:05:34,577 --> 01:05:37,373
Oh, you know, you figure,
"Oh, well, Alpha Centauri,
1209
01:05:37,408 --> 01:05:39,824
what, you know, where
are you talking about?"
1210
01:05:39,858 --> 01:05:44,863
He says, "No, no, no, it
was not extraterrestrial,
1211
01:05:45,968 --> 01:05:48,833
it was extratemporal,
time travelers."
1212
01:06:17,620 --> 01:06:19,415
So when you look
at the UFO phenomenon
1213
01:06:19,450 --> 01:06:20,970
and we wonder there's
some explanations
1214
01:06:21,003 --> 01:06:22,384
of why they might be here,
1215
01:06:22,418 --> 01:06:24,696
and some hypothesis
that people have made.
1216
01:06:24,731 --> 01:06:27,699
Now, when you look at it
here on earth as humans,
1217
01:06:27,734 --> 01:06:32,739
we tag cows, we look at
different biological specimens
1218
01:06:33,464 --> 01:06:35,673
under the microscope
and we log them,
1219
01:06:35,674 --> 01:06:37,674
we figure out what's going
on, we've run tests on them.
1220
01:06:37,675 --> 01:06:39,401
We do this kind of
stuff with animals
1221
01:06:39,435 --> 01:06:40,643
so we can learn from it.
1222
01:06:41,610 --> 01:06:43,784
We've had aspect in
thinking of the fact that
1223
01:06:43,819 --> 01:06:46,131
it's a big possibility that
1224
01:06:46,166 --> 01:06:48,168
that's what they're
here to do with us.
1225
01:06:48,203 --> 01:06:50,101
So just like we treat cattle
1226
01:06:50,135 --> 01:06:52,724
and we tag them on
their ear with a number,
1227
01:06:52,759 --> 01:06:55,693
they kept here to be here
doing the same exact thing.
1228
01:06:55,727 --> 01:06:57,833
What do you think that
implant is in somebody's body,
1229
01:06:57,867 --> 01:07:00,145
after they've had an
experience with the UFO?
1230
01:07:01,457 --> 01:07:03,114
That's the same thing
that we're doing.
1231
01:07:03,148 --> 01:07:05,150
And that's what a lot
of people think here.
1232
01:07:05,185 --> 01:07:08,464
I mean, this is a big possibility
of what's happening here
1233
01:07:08,499 --> 01:07:11,053
because it's not only
people being abducted
1234
01:07:11,087 --> 01:07:13,849
in say yours or my generation,
1235
01:07:13,883 --> 01:07:17,059
this goes on generational,
this is a generational thing.
1236
01:07:17,093 --> 01:07:20,235
I've talked to people
that have had cousins
1237
01:07:20,269 --> 01:07:22,685
and brothers and grandmothers
1238
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,791
and their fathers
have had experiences.
1239
01:07:24,825 --> 01:07:26,689
And it runs in the family.
1240
01:07:26,724 --> 01:07:30,003
We also talk about
Rh negative blood.
1241
01:07:30,037 --> 01:07:32,695
That is a bloodline
that has just popped up
1242
01:07:32,730 --> 01:07:34,594
out of nowhere within science.
1243
01:07:34,595 --> 01:07:35,870
We have no idea,
it's the only one,
1244
01:07:35,871 --> 01:07:38,218
we have no idea where
it came from in life.
1245
01:07:38,253 --> 01:07:41,808
It just appeared one time and
it's been here ever since.
1246
01:07:42,774 --> 01:07:44,776
And we try to think
maybe is it a possibility
1247
01:07:44,811 --> 01:07:46,744
that we have hybrids here?
1248
01:07:46,778 --> 01:07:49,609
Are these the people
that are being taken,
1249
01:07:49,610 --> 01:07:50,816
that are having
these experiences?
1250
01:07:50,817 --> 01:07:52,267
It's a great possibility.
1251
01:07:52,301 --> 01:07:55,235
So don't just look into the
one little aspect of it,
1252
01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:57,927
look at it all, get the
bigger picture, take it in
1253
01:07:57,962 --> 01:08:00,240
and understand what
you're looking at.
1254
01:08:00,275 --> 01:08:01,759
Then you can be
intelligent enough
1255
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,242
to go and have a
conversation with somebody,
1256
01:08:03,243 --> 01:08:04,693
to learn from somebody else
1257
01:08:04,727 --> 01:08:06,591
and actually know what
you're talking about.
1258
01:08:06,626 --> 01:08:07,834
Don't take the short way up
1259
01:08:07,868 --> 01:08:09,836
because it's good to
have this information
1260
01:08:09,870 --> 01:08:11,251
and know what's going on.
1261
01:08:11,286 --> 01:08:12,563
'Cause it's happening.
1262
01:08:12,564 --> 01:08:13,632
The government
wouldn't be involved,
1263
01:08:13,633 --> 01:08:14,944
like I said many times before,
1264
01:08:14,979 --> 01:08:16,877
if it wasn't a real phenomenon.
1265
01:08:24,816 --> 01:08:26,715
And I think for the
skeptics out there
1266
01:08:26,749 --> 01:08:30,857
that are saying, "Oh, you know,
we need definitive proof."
1267
01:08:30,891 --> 01:08:32,583
I think the proof is there.
1268
01:08:32,617 --> 01:08:35,758
Look at the amount of video
that these people are getting.
1269
01:08:35,793 --> 01:08:38,589
Yeah, there's a number
that could be faked,
1270
01:08:38,623 --> 01:08:40,901
but there's a lot of really,
1271
01:08:40,936 --> 01:08:42,903
really compelling
evidence there.
1272
01:08:42,938 --> 01:08:46,251
Listen to people's stories,
look at their body movements.
1273
01:08:46,286 --> 01:08:48,599
Look at the way
they're emotionally
1274
01:08:48,633 --> 01:08:51,567
talking about these events
that happened in their life,
1275
01:08:51,602 --> 01:08:53,120
that they can't explain.
1276
01:08:53,155 --> 01:08:57,711
You can't fake that kind of
like, that human emotion there.
1277
01:08:57,746 --> 01:08:59,126
So when I hear skeptics say,
1278
01:08:59,161 --> 01:09:01,646
"Well, you know, there's
no such thing as UFOs,
1279
01:09:01,681 --> 01:09:03,614
there's no such
thing as Bigfoot."
1280
01:09:03,648 --> 01:09:06,858
Sorry, we've had
evidence, we've seen it.
1281
01:09:06,893 --> 01:09:08,860
I've had experiences myself.
1282
01:09:08,895 --> 01:09:11,829
People that are
high up in society,
1283
01:09:11,863 --> 01:09:14,797
that are classy, good people,
1284
01:09:14,832 --> 01:09:17,904
they had these experiences
that they can't explain.
1285
01:09:17,938 --> 01:09:22,633
And so to the skeptics
I say, you know,
1286
01:09:22,667 --> 01:09:25,567
really look at the proof,
look, there is proof there.
1287
01:09:25,601 --> 01:09:26,913
You just have to dig deep.
1288
01:09:26,947 --> 01:09:29,778
I was on the fence
with the belief
1289
01:09:29,779 --> 01:09:31,019
that people were
getting abducted.
1290
01:09:31,020 --> 01:09:34,817
Like the few people that
I really truly believe
1291
01:09:34,852 --> 01:09:37,544
that were abducted, and
I've interviewed them too,
1292
01:09:38,649 --> 01:09:41,652
incredible, was well,
Kathleen Marden,
1293
01:09:41,686 --> 01:09:44,827
whose aunt was Betty Hill.
1294
01:09:44,862 --> 01:09:45,897
Betty and Barney Hill.
1295
01:09:45,932 --> 01:09:47,140
I really truly believe
1296
01:09:47,174 --> 01:09:49,625
that they seriously
had that abduction
1297
01:09:49,660 --> 01:09:51,178
that happened to them.
1298
01:09:51,213 --> 01:09:54,596
Another gentleman that I
talked to Calvin Parker,
1299
01:09:54,630 --> 01:09:58,910
he was the Pascagoula
UFO encounter in 1973,
1300
01:09:58,945 --> 01:10:02,604
where him and Charlie
Hickson were abducted
1301
01:10:02,638 --> 01:10:03,984
and taken aboard of UFO.
1302
01:10:04,019 --> 01:10:05,883
And they were also examined.
1303
01:10:05,917 --> 01:10:09,852
And the aliens that came out
there did not look like grays,
1304
01:10:09,887 --> 01:10:11,682
they looked like robots.
1305
01:10:11,716 --> 01:10:14,132
And very, very strange account.
1306
01:10:14,167 --> 01:10:17,998
And Calvin is the
most down-to-earth guy
1307
01:10:18,033 --> 01:10:23,038
and has not wavered from
the story since 1973.
1308
01:10:25,454 --> 01:10:29,872
I found it very interesting
that Avril Haines,
1309
01:10:29,907 --> 01:10:31,840
the director of
National Intelligence,
1310
01:10:31,874 --> 01:10:34,843
the head of the entire
intelligence community
1311
01:10:34,877 --> 01:10:38,053
and the NASA
administrator, Bill Nelson,
1312
01:10:38,087 --> 01:10:42,160
appeared together at
The National Cathedral,
1313
01:10:42,195 --> 01:10:45,232
when were discussing
our future in space.
1314
01:10:45,267 --> 01:10:49,720
And they made some very
telling revelations.
1315
01:10:49,754 --> 01:10:52,999
For example, was the
first time in my memory,
1316
01:10:53,033 --> 01:10:56,796
where a sitting head of
the intelligence community
1317
01:10:56,830 --> 01:11:01,110
of the United States spoke
the word extraterrestrially
1318
01:11:01,145 --> 01:11:04,079
in the context of
these UAP craft.
1319
01:11:04,873 --> 01:11:08,186
I believe that's an
important step forward
1320
01:11:08,221 --> 01:11:13,053
of building a bridge to
actually revealing to the world
1321
01:11:13,088 --> 01:11:17,989
and to the US citizen, exactly
what happened at Roswell,
1322
01:11:19,163 --> 01:11:21,993
what's happening
now over our skies.
1323
01:11:22,028 --> 01:11:26,032
So I have high hopes
about the coming years
1324
01:11:26,066 --> 01:11:29,932
as we approach the 75th
anniversary of Roswell,
1325
01:11:29,967 --> 01:11:31,969
that the government
will finally come clean
1326
01:11:32,003 --> 01:11:36,387
as to what exactly is
this phenomenon all about.
1327
01:11:36,421 --> 01:11:38,976
Who are flying the craft?
1328
01:11:39,010 --> 01:11:40,771
Where do they come from?
1329
01:11:40,805 --> 01:11:45,085
Are they part of our hidden
past, that we've forgotten?
1330
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:50,125
Can they then correlated to,
for example, religious texts
1331
01:11:51,816 --> 01:11:54,267
that describe a creation story
1332
01:11:54,301 --> 01:11:58,443
where god or gods, were
able to create humans,
1333
01:11:58,478 --> 01:12:00,135
made in their image?
1334
01:12:01,516 --> 01:12:05,968
I have high hopes that
2022 will be the year
1335
01:12:06,003 --> 01:12:09,351
where we start making
that first step
1336
01:12:09,385 --> 01:12:11,974
toward revealing
the actual truth.
1337
01:12:12,009 --> 01:12:14,770
And one of the last
things I want to discuss
1338
01:12:14,805 --> 01:12:18,118
is disclosure, the disclosure.
1339
01:12:18,153 --> 01:12:20,776
The question is,
will we ever know?
1340
01:12:20,811 --> 01:12:25,816
Will the government ever
tell everything they know
1341
01:12:26,506 --> 01:12:27,546
about the subject of UFOs?
1342
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:32,374
My answer to that
is, absolutely not.
1343
01:12:32,408 --> 01:12:37,275
There's no way that
we, as a society,
1344
01:12:37,310 --> 01:12:39,795
will be told everything
1345
01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:44,179
the government knows
or known since 1947.
1346
01:12:44,213 --> 01:12:49,115
There's numerous reasons why
1347
01:12:49,149 --> 01:12:51,980
the government can't
tell the truth.
1348
01:12:52,014 --> 01:12:54,154
Number one, research
and development.
1349
01:12:54,155 --> 01:12:55,948
They're never gonna tell
us everything they know
1350
01:12:55,949 --> 01:12:57,364
about what they've learned.
1351
01:12:57,399 --> 01:13:02,404
Number two, about alien
technology, human hybrids,
1352
01:13:03,232 --> 01:13:07,443
has the ETs manipulated
the human DNA?
1353
01:13:08,824 --> 01:13:10,826
They're not gonna
talk about that.
1354
01:13:10,861 --> 01:13:13,070
Now, will they say,
"Yeah, we might be visited
1355
01:13:13,104 --> 01:13:18,006
or what these objects you're
seeing is not terrestrial."
1356
01:13:18,558 --> 01:13:19,973
Maybe.
1357
01:13:20,008 --> 01:13:22,976
Nut that generates more
questions than answers.
1358
01:13:23,011 --> 01:13:26,359
So my personal belief,
and I know I'm contrary
1359
01:13:26,393 --> 01:13:29,051
to some other people
like Lue Elizondo,
1360
01:13:29,086 --> 01:13:32,330
is that, no, I don't think
we'll ever get full disclosure.
1361
01:13:36,127 --> 01:13:41,132
This fellow from Harvard
Avi Loeb, two years ago,
1362
01:13:41,857 --> 01:13:44,032
there was a, I thought
it was an asteroid
1363
01:13:44,066 --> 01:13:46,137
passing through
the solar system,
1364
01:13:46,172 --> 01:13:50,072
but he thought it was a
spaceship of some sort,
1365
01:13:53,041 --> 01:13:55,457
which I would, you know,
say put outta my mind,
1366
01:13:55,491 --> 01:13:57,528
except he's from Harvard.
1367
01:13:57,562 --> 01:13:59,150
He a Harvard physicist.
1368
01:13:59,185 --> 01:14:01,187
And he came up with a theory
1369
01:14:01,221 --> 01:14:06,226
that it was a long trajectory
probe of some sort.
1370
01:14:07,296 --> 01:14:12,336
So he's created a project
called the Galileo Project
1371
01:14:13,026 --> 01:14:15,995
and they're launching another,
1372
01:14:16,029 --> 01:14:20,309
the Webb telescope is
been launched again.
1373
01:14:20,344 --> 01:14:23,588
They're getting an unfettered
view of the universe.
1374
01:14:25,211 --> 01:14:29,249
So they will be able to
see the chemical elements
1375
01:14:29,284 --> 01:14:31,907
of stars and planets
and things like that.
1376
01:14:31,942 --> 01:14:34,185
Plus everything is clearer
1377
01:14:34,220 --> 01:14:37,050
than what you get from a
telescope down on the earth.
1378
01:14:39,156 --> 01:14:42,366
Because they're coming up
with more Earth-like planets,
1379
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,575
every month, they come
up with another one.
1380
01:14:44,609 --> 01:14:47,198
I forget what the total is now,
1381
01:14:47,233 --> 01:14:51,547
but this one star, 41 light
years away, has seven of them,
1382
01:14:51,582 --> 01:14:53,273
seven Earth-like planets.
1383
01:14:54,965 --> 01:14:57,553
And the universe
there has to be,
1384
01:14:57,588 --> 01:15:00,453
as Carl Sagan would say,
1385
01:15:00,487 --> 01:15:04,215
"Billions and billions
of Earth-like planets."
1386
01:15:04,250 --> 01:15:08,219
And that's, according
to scientists,
1387
01:15:08,254 --> 01:15:11,395
you have to have an
Earth-like planet with water
1388
01:15:11,429 --> 01:15:13,155
to have life.
1389
01:15:13,190 --> 01:15:16,193
I expect some
startling announcement
1390
01:15:16,227 --> 01:15:19,196
within the next five
years along those lines.
1391
01:15:19,230 --> 01:15:22,199
Not just, "Oh, there's so
many Earth-like planets."
1392
01:15:22,233 --> 01:15:27,238
I expect a little more definition
to come within five years.
1393
01:15:29,033 --> 01:15:33,210
Certainly a report from
the government soon
1394
01:15:33,244 --> 01:15:35,281
about what they are collecting
1395
01:15:35,315 --> 01:15:40,320
and that what everybody
suspects the UAPs really are.
1396
01:15:41,321 --> 01:15:44,324
200 years ago, would
you people would think
1397
01:15:44,359 --> 01:15:47,224
that we could
actually see on a box,
1398
01:15:47,258 --> 01:15:50,606
we could see other people on
this box in our living room
1399
01:15:50,641 --> 01:15:54,300
or talk to people from vast
distances around the globe,
1400
01:15:54,334 --> 01:15:58,028
on our phones, or, you know,
or through a telephone.
1401
01:15:58,062 --> 01:15:59,961
That would've been
absolute like, you know,
1402
01:15:59,962 --> 01:16:01,202
would've been
witchcraft, you know,
1403
01:16:01,203 --> 01:16:05,242
it would've been like out of
the realm of people's thinking.
1404
01:16:06,415 --> 01:16:09,004
But look at where we are
today, look at the technology.
1405
01:16:09,039 --> 01:16:10,695
So keeping an open
mind, I think,
1406
01:16:10,730 --> 01:16:15,217
is really, really important to
everything that we talk about
1407
01:16:15,252 --> 01:16:17,150
in the paranormal world.
1408
01:16:17,185 --> 01:16:18,669
'Cause I always say
1409
01:16:18,703 --> 01:16:21,568
that there's always a bit
of truth to the folklore.
1410
01:16:22,431 --> 01:16:23,329
Keep an open mind.
1411
01:16:24,055 --> 01:16:26,193
We hear people all the time
when they report cases say,
1412
01:16:26,194 --> 01:16:29,197
"I think I'm going crazy, I
think I'm losing my mind."
1413
01:16:29,231 --> 01:16:30,336
You know what I mean?
1414
01:16:30,337 --> 01:16:32,233
"But I saw this and I had
to report it to somebody."
1415
01:16:32,234 --> 01:16:33,718
And we tell 'em all the time,
1416
01:16:33,753 --> 01:16:36,342
listen, it happens all the
time, you know what I mean?
1417
01:16:36,343 --> 01:16:37,514
People see things all the time.
1418
01:16:37,515 --> 01:16:41,002
And most things can be
explained, don't get me wrong.
1419
01:16:41,036 --> 01:16:42,520
We have a statistics,
1420
01:16:42,555 --> 01:16:45,627
it's about 94% of
things can be explained
1421
01:16:45,661 --> 01:16:48,319
and there's 6% that
cannot be explained.
1422
01:16:48,354 --> 01:16:51,598
And that 6% is what makes
the phenomenon real.
1423
01:16:51,599 --> 01:16:53,323
People always say, "Well,
how do we know this is real
1424
01:16:53,324 --> 01:16:55,602
and not just the
government technology?"
1425
01:16:55,637 --> 01:16:57,259
Well, let's look at it this way,
1426
01:16:57,271 --> 01:16:59,191
if you look at the millions
and millions of cases
1427
01:16:59,192 --> 01:17:02,264
that have been reported to
MUFON and other organizations,
1428
01:17:02,299 --> 01:17:05,026
all it takes is one
of them to be real
1429
01:17:05,060 --> 01:17:07,407
for this phenomenon
to be a true thing.
1430
01:17:07,442 --> 01:17:09,685
So that's how we have to
look at it on the scale.
1431
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,826
And then if you really
know your astronomy
1432
01:17:11,860 --> 01:17:14,380
and you know how
big the universe is
1433
01:17:14,414 --> 01:17:16,347
and how big the galaxy is,
1434
01:17:16,382 --> 01:17:19,454
you'll realize that
we're just a small spec
1435
01:17:19,488 --> 01:17:21,042
in a huge, huge ocean.
1436
01:17:21,076 --> 01:17:25,391
So I expect something
definitive, something startling,
1437
01:17:25,425 --> 01:17:30,430
something solid to come
from the telescopes
1438
01:17:31,190 --> 01:17:33,433
and the science
that's behind it.
1439
01:17:33,468 --> 01:17:38,162
And hopeful that the government
in their projects now
1440
01:17:38,197 --> 01:17:40,337
that the they're known
around the world,
1441
01:17:40,371 --> 01:17:41,786
they can't hide them anymore.
1442
01:17:41,821 --> 01:17:45,204
They have to come out
with something solid
1443
01:17:45,238 --> 01:17:47,413
and not couched in words
1444
01:17:47,447 --> 01:17:51,417
that just turn out
to be gobbledygook
1445
01:17:51,451 --> 01:17:52,867
to keep the cover up going.
1446
01:17:52,901 --> 01:17:56,387
That's what I'm hoping
for is some transparency
1447
01:17:56,422 --> 01:17:58,217
because the world
is ready for it,
1448
01:17:58,251 --> 01:17:59,666
the world is ready for it.
1449
01:17:59,701 --> 01:18:02,255
You don't know what the
future's going to hold.
1450
01:18:04,499 --> 01:18:06,294
Try those open doors.
1451
01:18:07,260 --> 01:18:09,849
I firmly believe not
in the need to know.
1452
01:18:09,884 --> 01:18:13,715
I think the need to know
is outdated, it's outmoded.
1453
01:18:13,749 --> 01:18:16,373
I believe in the need to share.
1454
01:18:16,407 --> 01:18:18,789
There's so many skeptics.
1455
01:18:18,823 --> 01:18:22,448
There's so many people
that are backstabbers
1456
01:18:22,482 --> 01:18:27,246
against legitimate researchers
within the UFO community
1457
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:32,285
that the skeptics
are everywhere.
1458
01:18:33,148 --> 01:18:35,219
And so I always say this,
1459
01:18:35,254 --> 01:18:38,498
we have to ask the
right questions.
1460
01:18:38,533 --> 01:18:43,434
If we ask the right questions
that generates thought.
1461
01:18:43,469 --> 01:18:46,748
And thinking by smart people
1462
01:18:46,782 --> 01:18:49,475
will sometimes answer
those questions
1463
01:18:49,509 --> 01:18:53,134
without us having to go
through a FOIA request,
1464
01:18:53,168 --> 01:18:55,722
which we know that the
government's not gonna give
1465
01:18:55,757 --> 01:18:57,759
if they don't wanna give.
1466
01:18:57,793 --> 01:19:00,555
So one of the things
that you have to do,
1467
01:19:00,589 --> 01:19:05,353
even if you're just beginning
in this subject area of UFOs,
1468
01:19:05,387 --> 01:19:08,666
is ask the questions,
ask the right questions,
1469
01:19:08,701 --> 01:19:10,910
do the right research
1470
01:19:10,945 --> 01:19:12,739
and you might get
the right answers.
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