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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,070 --> 00:00:03,244 Viewers like you make this program possible. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 3 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,350 Support your local PBS station. 4 00:00:06,420 --> 00:00:08,698 DANIELLE METZ: This was the last day I was with them 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 6 00:00:08,732 --> 00:00:10,527 in the free world. 7 00:00:10,562 --> 00:00:12,322 ANNOUNCER: With each incarceration, 8 00:00:12,357 --> 00:00:14,600 a family serves a sentence. 9 00:00:14,635 --> 00:00:15,808 CARL BERNARD: Before the separation, 10 00:00:15,843 --> 00:00:17,914 she was my best friend. 11 00:00:17,948 --> 00:00:19,571 When she came home, as happy as I was, 12 00:00:19,605 --> 00:00:21,538 my soul was just exhausted. 13 00:00:21,573 --> 00:00:22,919 GLENEISHA HAYTER: It's bittersweet. 14 00:00:22,953 --> 00:00:25,577 Looking at my kids kind of reminds me of 15 00:00:25,611 --> 00:00:27,786 where my life could have been. 16 00:00:27,820 --> 00:00:29,512 ANNOUNCER: "Commuted," a special edition 17 00:00:29,546 --> 00:00:31,721 of "Afropop" and "America ReFramed," 18 00:00:31,755 --> 00:00:33,343 directed by Nailah Jefferson 19 00:00:33,378 --> 00:00:36,139 and produced in collaboration with Danielle Metz. 20 00:00:36,174 --> 00:00:38,279 ♪ 21 00:00:38,314 --> 00:00:39,280 Hey! 22 00:00:39,315 --> 00:00:43,319 ♪ 23 00:00:43,353 --> 00:00:44,630 Hey! 24 00:00:44,665 --> 00:00:47,875 ♪ 25 00:00:47,909 --> 00:00:49,497 Hey! Hey! 26 00:00:49,532 --> 00:00:50,947 Hey! 27 00:00:52,328 --> 00:00:53,605 METZ: First entering prison, 28 00:00:53,639 --> 00:00:57,091 I was only 26 years old 29 00:00:57,126 --> 00:00:58,334 when a door closed on me. 30 00:00:58,368 --> 00:01:01,440 It was like a big freezer door, just go, "Boom!" 31 00:01:03,442 --> 00:01:05,996 That really shattered my heart. 32 00:01:07,619 --> 00:01:10,346 ♪ 33 00:01:10,380 --> 00:01:14,557 But I kept telling myself that freedom is a state of mind. 34 00:01:14,591 --> 00:01:15,868 [birds cawing, child laughing] 35 00:01:15,903 --> 00:01:18,147 I think about what my life was like 36 00:01:18,181 --> 00:01:21,046 and imagine what it could have been. 37 00:01:21,081 --> 00:01:23,013 MS. PAT [on phone]: You don't want to ever lose touch 38 00:01:23,048 --> 00:01:26,500 with the outside world, sweetheart. 39 00:01:26,534 --> 00:01:27,777 [people exclaiming] 40 00:01:27,811 --> 00:01:29,503 METZ: Well, what you going to do? 41 00:01:29,537 --> 00:01:31,850 CARL BERNARD: You believe stuff so much, it really come true. 42 00:01:31,884 --> 00:01:33,127 MS. PAT [on phone]: Oh, yes, Dani. 43 00:01:33,162 --> 00:01:34,646 You remember that, Dani? 44 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,165 METZ: We never knew anything. 45 00:01:36,199 --> 00:01:37,856 We never knew. 46 00:01:37,890 --> 00:01:40,790 CARL BERNARD: Same story over and over and over and over. 47 00:01:40,824 --> 00:01:42,136 How are people going to remember you? 48 00:01:42,171 --> 00:01:43,793 METZ: You got your children to live for. 49 00:01:43,827 --> 00:01:45,381 HAYTER: Mom, I'm not a kid anymore. 50 00:01:45,415 --> 00:01:47,590 CARL BERNARD: This is supposed to be a forever thing. 51 00:01:47,624 --> 00:01:49,661 MS. PAT: Lord have mercy, Jesus, 52 00:01:49,695 --> 00:01:52,284 because we had some good times, though. 53 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:54,528 HAYTER: Mama... 54 00:01:56,771 --> 00:01:59,188 METZ: My name is Danielle Bernard Metz. 55 00:01:59,222 --> 00:02:01,121 I was sentenced to three life sentence 56 00:02:01,155 --> 00:02:05,953 plus 20 years as a first-time nonviolent offender. 57 00:02:05,987 --> 00:02:09,681 My kids were three and seven at the time. 58 00:02:09,715 --> 00:02:12,028 Year after year, we prayed the same prayer, 59 00:02:12,062 --> 00:02:14,306 "Mama going to come home," and it's going to be like 60 00:02:14,341 --> 00:02:16,205 it used to be when I come home. 61 00:02:16,239 --> 00:02:21,141 ♪ 62 00:02:21,175 --> 00:02:26,215 This was 1993, right before I got arrested. 63 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:31,703 Me with my son and my daughter, 64 00:02:31,737 --> 00:02:36,570 the last day I was with them in the free world. 65 00:02:39,538 --> 00:02:40,988 And I told them, I said, 66 00:02:41,022 --> 00:02:43,335 "Well, I'm not coming with you guys." 67 00:02:43,370 --> 00:02:44,785 And you can see, 68 00:02:44,819 --> 00:02:48,237 she was pouting and he was pouting. 69 00:02:48,271 --> 00:02:50,515 And when I told them, "Get in the car," 70 00:02:50,549 --> 00:02:52,482 both of them were screaming. 71 00:02:52,517 --> 00:02:54,657 "I want my mama! I want Mama!" 72 00:02:54,691 --> 00:02:56,659 They were yelling so loud 73 00:02:56,693 --> 00:02:58,799 that I couldn't even look back. 74 00:02:58,833 --> 00:03:00,076 Because if I would've looked back, 75 00:03:00,110 --> 00:03:03,252 I would've said, "No, just let them stay." 76 00:03:09,396 --> 00:03:12,226 ♪ 77 00:03:12,261 --> 00:03:14,090 The marshals, they came. 78 00:03:14,124 --> 00:03:16,679 When they were driving me to Dublin, 79 00:03:16,713 --> 00:03:19,475 it was just a dirt road, it was just 80 00:03:19,509 --> 00:03:22,754 nothing, it was just a desert. 81 00:03:24,825 --> 00:03:27,793 All I saw was emptiness. 82 00:03:30,969 --> 00:03:32,626 I was only 26 years old. 83 00:03:32,660 --> 00:03:36,561 It just didn't seem real. 84 00:03:36,595 --> 00:03:38,666 I was really frightened. 85 00:03:38,701 --> 00:03:41,290 I didn't know if it was strong enough, 86 00:03:41,324 --> 00:03:43,671 that if our love was going to keep us together, 87 00:03:43,706 --> 00:03:46,950 as a family. 88 00:04:04,105 --> 00:04:05,728 MICHAEL LEWIS: Hello, my name is Michael Lewis. 89 00:04:05,762 --> 00:04:07,661 I'm sitting here with Adrian Bernard, 90 00:04:07,695 --> 00:04:09,352 the sister of Danielle Metz, 91 00:04:09,387 --> 00:04:11,665 her daughter Gleneisha Metz-Hayter, 92 00:04:11,699 --> 00:04:13,322 and her son Carl Bernard. 93 00:04:13,356 --> 00:04:15,703 Danielle Metz was sentenced to three lifes, 94 00:04:15,738 --> 00:04:17,049 plus 20 years. 95 00:04:17,084 --> 00:04:19,811 She's a first-time nonviolent offender. 96 00:04:19,845 --> 00:04:23,228 The kind of time she was given is the time 97 00:04:23,263 --> 00:04:28,785 that is reserved for serial killers and terrorists. 98 00:04:28,820 --> 00:04:30,200 CARL BERNARD: If I wake up in the morning, 99 00:04:30,235 --> 00:04:31,685 that's one of the first things 100 00:04:31,719 --> 00:04:32,962 that hit my mind since then. 101 00:04:32,996 --> 00:04:34,860 I'm 26 years old, and I've... 102 00:04:34,895 --> 00:04:36,724 It's been, it's been basically the same. 103 00:04:36,759 --> 00:04:38,174 It's been rough. 104 00:04:38,208 --> 00:04:39,969 You know, but, you know, I prayed a lot. 105 00:04:40,003 --> 00:04:41,798 You know, I keep faith, things that basically 106 00:04:41,833 --> 00:04:43,006 my mother told me to do. 107 00:04:43,041 --> 00:04:44,525 [voice trembling]: It was hard. 108 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,217 It was, it was hard growing up. 109 00:04:47,252 --> 00:04:49,047 As a young woman, 110 00:04:49,081 --> 00:04:52,188 not having your mother around... 111 00:04:54,259 --> 00:04:56,951 Not having anyone to talk to you about 112 00:04:56,986 --> 00:04:58,332 your day-to-day problems. 113 00:04:58,367 --> 00:05:01,335 You know, you have to wait for the phone call. 114 00:05:01,370 --> 00:05:04,234 [sniffles]: Which is usually only 15 minutes, so, 115 00:05:04,269 --> 00:05:07,134 you know, you have to squeeze everything in, and then, 116 00:05:07,168 --> 00:05:09,309 it's only by the grace of God 117 00:05:09,343 --> 00:05:12,277 that I'm here today to tell this story, and, 118 00:05:12,312 --> 00:05:15,798 and I just hope that someone out there is listening, 119 00:05:15,832 --> 00:05:17,869 that someone out there will help. 120 00:05:17,903 --> 00:05:20,181 She's still not home, 121 00:05:20,216 --> 00:05:22,529 but I know and I pray to my God 122 00:05:22,563 --> 00:05:26,326 that I know justice will be served on her behalf. 123 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,845 REPORTER: The growth of the women's prison population 124 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,985 has nearly tripled since 1990, 125 00:05:31,020 --> 00:05:32,746 and accounts for nearly... 126 00:05:32,780 --> 00:05:34,334 REPORTER: ...chief law enforcement officer 127 00:05:34,368 --> 00:05:36,474 said today it is time to scale back 128 00:05:36,508 --> 00:05:39,028 tough prison terms for low-level drug crimes... 129 00:05:39,062 --> 00:05:40,719 BARACK OBAMA: I've commuted the sentences 130 00:05:40,754 --> 00:05:42,411 of dozens of people sentenced under 131 00:05:42,445 --> 00:05:44,930 old drug laws that we now recognize were unfair, 132 00:05:44,965 --> 00:05:46,207 and yesterday I announced that... 133 00:05:46,242 --> 00:05:47,933 REPORTER: President Obama has reduced 134 00:05:47,968 --> 00:05:49,901 the prison sentences of 46... 135 00:05:49,935 --> 00:05:51,937 REPORTER: 111... REPORTER: 231 people, 136 00:05:51,972 --> 00:05:55,147 the most ever in one day. 137 00:06:09,369 --> 00:06:13,373 ♪ 138 00:06:15,513 --> 00:06:17,377 [shrieking, laughing] 139 00:06:17,411 --> 00:06:18,792 Oh, my God! 140 00:06:18,826 --> 00:06:21,795 [both laughing] 141 00:06:24,591 --> 00:06:27,352 [car horn honks, traffic humming] 142 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:28,802 METZ: I made it to you, Mom. 143 00:06:28,836 --> 00:06:30,597 You made it to me. 144 00:06:30,631 --> 00:06:32,150 I know you're happy, girl. 145 00:06:32,184 --> 00:06:34,773 If you never make it around no more, you're here now. 146 00:06:34,808 --> 00:06:39,226 ♪ 147 00:06:42,643 --> 00:06:43,989 METZ: Some days, 148 00:06:44,024 --> 00:06:45,991 I would just call my mom out of the blue 149 00:06:46,026 --> 00:06:48,511 and just tell her, "You know, I'm coming home." 150 00:06:48,546 --> 00:06:51,203 And even if she didn't believe it, 151 00:06:51,238 --> 00:06:52,826 she'd say, "Oh, I know, Boo. 152 00:06:52,860 --> 00:06:54,793 I know you're coming." 153 00:06:54,828 --> 00:06:57,727 [birds chirping] 154 00:06:57,762 --> 00:06:59,211 It just felt like a dream 155 00:06:59,246 --> 00:07:02,456 that I didn't want to wake up from. 156 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:15,400 ♪ 157 00:07:17,885 --> 00:07:20,474 When I first came through the door, 158 00:07:20,509 --> 00:07:23,581 it felt different. 159 00:07:25,065 --> 00:07:29,207 My mom, she wasn't cooking anymore. 160 00:07:36,248 --> 00:07:38,423 [sniffs] 161 00:07:38,458 --> 00:07:42,427 The doctor told me that they had saw something on her cervix, 162 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:45,016 and she saw that I was getting ready to cry, and she said, 163 00:07:45,050 --> 00:07:47,259 "Mm-mm-- God's will got to be done, Boo." 164 00:07:48,571 --> 00:07:50,262 I said, "But I ain't going to be able to make it without you." 165 00:07:50,297 --> 00:07:51,367 She said, "Oh, don't say that. 166 00:07:51,401 --> 00:07:53,300 "Oh, you're going to make it. 167 00:07:53,334 --> 00:07:55,095 "Just keep getting up, going to work. 168 00:07:55,129 --> 00:07:58,443 You're going to be all right." 169 00:07:58,478 --> 00:08:01,895 I always thought she was going to always be there, 170 00:08:01,929 --> 00:08:04,345 no matter what. 171 00:08:07,417 --> 00:08:11,180 My mom passed May the 21st. 172 00:08:17,566 --> 00:08:19,464 As I was lying there, 173 00:08:19,499 --> 00:08:22,536 I just was thinking about the ceiling fan now. 174 00:08:22,571 --> 00:08:25,021 I remember, the whole time I was gone, 175 00:08:25,056 --> 00:08:27,886 I've never seen a working ceiling fan. 176 00:08:27,921 --> 00:08:29,509 I've saw one in a book. 177 00:08:29,543 --> 00:08:30,855 So, whenever... 178 00:08:30,889 --> 00:08:32,615 Since I've been home, 179 00:08:32,650 --> 00:08:35,066 and whenever I wake up here in this house, 180 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:36,895 I always... 181 00:08:36,930 --> 00:08:38,310 You know, that's the first thing I see 182 00:08:38,345 --> 00:08:40,347 when I open my eyes, and that lets me know 183 00:08:40,381 --> 00:08:42,556 that, you know, I'm really here, because for a minute, 184 00:08:42,591 --> 00:08:45,317 I used to think that, "Am I still there?" 185 00:08:45,352 --> 00:08:47,181 But I know I didn't see a ceiling fan, 186 00:08:47,216 --> 00:08:49,045 so I always, if I... 187 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,013 You know, if I stay by my mom house 188 00:08:51,047 --> 00:08:52,428 and I wake up here, 189 00:08:52,462 --> 00:08:54,085 I always make sure that fan is on 190 00:08:54,119 --> 00:08:55,535 when I get up in the morning. 191 00:08:55,569 --> 00:08:58,227 That lets me know that, that I'm actually here. 192 00:08:58,261 --> 00:09:00,229 It really just makes me think about time, 193 00:09:00,263 --> 00:09:03,508 how time just, you know, don't stop for no one. 194 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:06,580 It just keeps on going and going and going. 195 00:09:31,812 --> 00:09:34,056 [door closes] 196 00:09:36,576 --> 00:09:40,303 [birds chirping] 197 00:09:48,139 --> 00:09:51,073 ♪ 198 00:09:56,147 --> 00:09:57,907 [car engine humming, switch clicks] 199 00:09:57,942 --> 00:10:00,013 MAN [on recording]: We're having a conversation in the newsroom, 200 00:10:00,047 --> 00:10:02,429 and I don't know if you're aware, 201 00:10:02,463 --> 00:10:05,605 President Obama granted clemency to Danielle Metz 202 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:08,780 after she served 23 years in prison. 203 00:10:08,815 --> 00:10:10,644 [birds tweeting] 204 00:10:12,681 --> 00:10:15,649 METZ: Well, I had a good upbringing in New Orleans. 205 00:10:17,478 --> 00:10:20,447 I was the youngest of nine. 206 00:10:21,862 --> 00:10:23,346 [child laughing] 207 00:10:23,381 --> 00:10:25,901 My mom, she worked at Leidenheimer Baking 208 00:10:25,935 --> 00:10:27,143 for 40 years. 209 00:10:27,178 --> 00:10:30,388 My dad, he was a cement finisher. 210 00:10:32,735 --> 00:10:36,049 I was raised Uptown, on General Taylor. 211 00:10:36,083 --> 00:10:39,604 A good neighborhood. 212 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:42,020 Watching my mama work hard, as a young girl, 213 00:10:42,055 --> 00:10:44,989 I guess I just start fantasizing. 214 00:10:45,023 --> 00:10:47,577 You know, wanting something, 215 00:10:47,612 --> 00:10:50,373 I guess, more than what I had. 216 00:10:51,961 --> 00:10:53,653 MAN [on recording]: Now, let's rewind a bit here. 217 00:10:53,687 --> 00:10:57,691 In the early '90s, Danielle Metz married Glenn Metz, 218 00:10:57,726 --> 00:11:00,867 who was dubbed by some as a drug kingpin. 219 00:11:00,901 --> 00:11:02,454 REPORTER: The government contends Glenn Metz 220 00:11:02,489 --> 00:11:03,801 and his wife, Danielle Metz, 221 00:11:03,835 --> 00:11:06,493 were the leaders of the so-called Metz Gang. 222 00:11:06,527 --> 00:11:08,806 In sentencing them to life behind bars, 223 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,462 Judge McNamara said, 224 00:11:10,497 --> 00:11:15,675 "Narcotics crime is destroying our city and nation." 225 00:11:31,449 --> 00:11:32,933 METZ: These are some of the things 226 00:11:32,968 --> 00:11:36,385 that was important to me while I was in there, like... 227 00:11:36,419 --> 00:11:38,042 In this paper right here, 228 00:11:38,076 --> 00:11:39,526 I don't know if you guys know, 229 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:42,046 but they had vacated one of my sentences, 230 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,531 and the judge said that 231 00:11:44,565 --> 00:11:46,567 it didn't really matter, because I still had... 232 00:11:46,602 --> 00:11:50,399 I still would have two life sentences plus the 20 years. 233 00:11:50,433 --> 00:11:52,056 So I was kind of puzzled. 234 00:11:52,090 --> 00:11:54,644 Like, how could it weigh so much when you're getting sentenced, 235 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,130 and then when you deduct it, it don't account for nothing? 236 00:11:57,164 --> 00:11:59,235 But I guess when you don't know the law, 237 00:11:59,270 --> 00:12:01,203 that's what happen. 238 00:12:07,968 --> 00:12:10,212 This one, this is my favorite, 239 00:12:10,246 --> 00:12:14,734 because I always connect with us being together no matter what. 240 00:12:14,768 --> 00:12:17,219 With or without a husband, a dad, 241 00:12:17,253 --> 00:12:18,772 it was always going to be us three. 242 00:12:18,807 --> 00:12:20,774 That's how I always vision us, envision us together 243 00:12:20,809 --> 00:12:23,812 all the time, with us as a family. 244 00:12:27,056 --> 00:12:29,127 This is him. 245 00:12:29,162 --> 00:12:31,302 I named my son after his dad. 246 00:12:31,336 --> 00:12:32,993 His name is Carl. 247 00:12:33,028 --> 00:12:35,306 I think his first Easter. 248 00:12:35,340 --> 00:12:36,997 And, um... 249 00:12:37,032 --> 00:12:38,412 And then, this was a picture-- 250 00:12:38,447 --> 00:12:39,897 it was my son's birthday, 251 00:12:39,931 --> 00:12:42,209 and I asked my mom to give him a party, 252 00:12:42,244 --> 00:12:44,798 and I bought him a little motorcycle bike, 253 00:12:44,833 --> 00:12:46,213 and he loved it, 254 00:12:46,248 --> 00:12:47,905 but he was still happy then. 255 00:12:47,939 --> 00:12:50,183 You would kind of see over a period of time 256 00:12:50,217 --> 00:12:51,563 how his facial expression changed from 257 00:12:51,598 --> 00:12:53,634 happiness, happiness, happiness 258 00:12:53,669 --> 00:12:55,498 to, like, not too happy, not too happy, 259 00:12:55,533 --> 00:12:57,431 because I guess the reality of the situation... 260 00:12:57,466 --> 00:12:59,330 You know, he was having birthdays, 261 00:12:59,364 --> 00:13:01,884 more and more birthdays without me. 262 00:13:20,144 --> 00:13:26,564 ♪ 263 00:13:26,598 --> 00:13:29,498 CARL BERNARD: I had so many memories 264 00:13:29,532 --> 00:13:32,535 from the perfect childhood, 265 00:13:32,570 --> 00:13:34,537 spending a lot of time with my mom. 266 00:13:34,572 --> 00:13:36,194 I was never away from my mom, 267 00:13:36,229 --> 00:13:39,404 like, from the time I wake up to the time I go to sleep, 268 00:13:39,439 --> 00:13:43,270 before the separation. 269 00:13:43,305 --> 00:13:46,549 She was my best friend. 270 00:13:48,103 --> 00:13:51,900 ♪ 271 00:13:55,041 --> 00:13:56,870 METZ: I, I drew this a long time ago. 272 00:13:56,905 --> 00:14:00,011 Here's my son, that's my daughter, me, and my mom. 273 00:14:00,046 --> 00:14:04,084 You see in freedom, one happy family, and it's going home, 274 00:14:04,119 --> 00:14:06,984 and it say, "With God, all things are possible." 275 00:14:11,436 --> 00:14:14,198 My son, he wasn't at the airport. 276 00:14:14,232 --> 00:14:16,717 ADRIAN BERNARD: Everybody say, "Welcome home, Dani!" 277 00:14:16,752 --> 00:14:20,031 METZ: And when I didn't see him, I was heartbroken. 278 00:14:20,066 --> 00:14:23,379 [people clapping in video] 279 00:14:23,414 --> 00:14:25,002 CHILD: Wait, is this your birthday? 280 00:14:25,036 --> 00:14:28,626 - No, this is just my homecome, homecoming celebration. 281 00:14:28,660 --> 00:14:30,145 Y'all know I've been in prison for 23 years. 282 00:14:30,179 --> 00:14:32,319 - Y'all didn't know that? - I didn't even know that. 283 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,770 METZ: He had told me 284 00:14:34,804 --> 00:14:37,566 he was teaching his self not to feel, 285 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:42,226 because I was never coming home. 286 00:14:42,260 --> 00:14:43,917 [videocall ringing] 287 00:14:43,952 --> 00:14:47,127 Hi! Hey, Victory! 288 00:14:47,162 --> 00:14:49,198 HAYTER [on phone]: Come here, come here, come here. 289 00:14:49,233 --> 00:14:50,544 Granny's on the phone. 290 00:14:50,579 --> 00:14:53,099 [Victory cooing] METZ: Hey! 291 00:14:53,133 --> 00:14:56,447 Oh, look at the baby, hi! 292 00:14:56,481 --> 00:14:58,483 Hi there, pumpkin. 293 00:14:58,518 --> 00:15:01,590 Hi there, pumpkin. 294 00:15:03,488 --> 00:15:04,834 [Hayter laughs on phone] 295 00:15:05,835 --> 00:15:07,354 HAYTER [on phone]: Come here, come here, come here. 296 00:15:07,389 --> 00:15:08,804 Hi. 297 00:15:08,838 --> 00:15:10,495 HAYTER [voiceover]: I don't really remember 298 00:15:10,530 --> 00:15:13,050 too much of my mom being in the picture 299 00:15:13,084 --> 00:15:14,983 before prison. 300 00:15:15,017 --> 00:15:18,365 [water rushing] 301 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,126 When my mom went away, 302 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,957 I moved with my aunt and my four cousins. 303 00:15:23,992 --> 00:15:26,063 We went to L.A., 304 00:15:26,097 --> 00:15:29,031 and then we moved to Sacramento. 305 00:15:29,066 --> 00:15:32,724 And then from Sacramento, we moved to Stockton, 306 00:15:32,759 --> 00:15:37,419 and that's where I've spent most of my adult life till now. 307 00:15:40,387 --> 00:15:43,804 Right now, I'm 29, and I'll be 30 soon. 308 00:15:43,839 --> 00:15:47,636 I was about three years old when my mom went to prison. 309 00:15:49,949 --> 00:15:52,054 [toy clacks] 310 00:15:52,986 --> 00:15:56,127 I never really imagined what life would be like 311 00:15:56,162 --> 00:15:58,026 with both of my parents home. 312 00:15:58,060 --> 00:15:59,441 [babbles] 313 00:15:59,475 --> 00:16:00,787 HAYTER: I never really remembered 314 00:16:00,821 --> 00:16:04,894 anything of them being home. 315 00:16:04,929 --> 00:16:08,795 In the Bible, it has, there's a scripture that said, 316 00:16:08,829 --> 00:16:11,349 "I will never leave you nor forsake you." 317 00:16:11,384 --> 00:16:16,630 That, that's a really prominent scripture in my life. 318 00:16:16,665 --> 00:16:21,773 So when friends or family or anybody 319 00:16:21,808 --> 00:16:25,536 will leave, I know He will be there. 320 00:16:28,435 --> 00:16:29,747 [cooing] 321 00:16:29,781 --> 00:16:31,197 HAYTER: My daughter, Victory, 322 00:16:31,231 --> 00:16:34,096 I felt like that was a fitting name for her. 323 00:16:34,131 --> 00:16:37,997 God gave us victory over every situation. 324 00:16:42,242 --> 00:16:46,315 Now that my mom's home, we do get to FaceTime 325 00:16:46,350 --> 00:16:48,662 and talk often, 326 00:16:48,697 --> 00:16:52,045 and we are trying to get a better relationship. 327 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,841 I wish she would come and stay up this way, 328 00:16:54,875 --> 00:16:57,568 because you can't really get to know somebody 329 00:16:57,602 --> 00:16:59,018 when they're far away. 330 00:16:59,052 --> 00:17:02,021 You can talk, but we've been talking for years. 331 00:17:02,055 --> 00:17:04,437 'Cause we don't really know each other 332 00:17:04,471 --> 00:17:07,026 as well as we think we do. 333 00:17:18,347 --> 00:17:21,109 METZ: The dream I had of us being together, 334 00:17:21,143 --> 00:17:23,525 the thing that I envisioned, it wasn't my reality 335 00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:27,632 once I came back to New Orleans. 336 00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:34,915 I'm just trying to figure this whole freedom thing out. 337 00:17:37,435 --> 00:17:39,161 What's my purpose? 338 00:17:44,373 --> 00:17:47,031 I would always just tell my mother about my plans. 339 00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:49,378 "I'm going to be a mentor and I'm going to help 340 00:17:49,413 --> 00:17:51,208 "all these girls that I leave behind 341 00:17:51,242 --> 00:17:54,142 that still here." 342 00:17:55,212 --> 00:17:59,492 And she would just say, "Mm-hmm, Boo." 343 00:17:59,526 --> 00:18:04,083 ♪ 344 00:18:10,951 --> 00:18:12,781 Good morning. WOMAN: Good morning. 345 00:18:12,815 --> 00:18:15,059 [security wand beeps] 346 00:18:16,612 --> 00:18:20,996 [wand beeping] 347 00:18:31,662 --> 00:18:32,973 METZ: Good morning, good morning. 348 00:18:33,008 --> 00:18:34,596 How y'all doing? GIRLS: Good morning. 349 00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:37,185 METZ: So, what y'all did for the week? 350 00:18:37,219 --> 00:18:38,807 Tell me what happened for the week. 351 00:18:38,841 --> 00:18:41,050 GIRL: They picked up my charges. 352 00:18:42,707 --> 00:18:45,054 [door buzzes] 353 00:18:45,538 --> 00:18:48,472 So... 354 00:18:48,506 --> 00:18:49,576 [door opening] 355 00:18:49,611 --> 00:18:51,095 Are you? 356 00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:52,545 - So how do you feel about that? 357 00:18:52,579 --> 00:18:55,686 What I tell you? 358 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,066 [mumbling] 359 00:18:57,101 --> 00:18:58,516 Huh? I'm sorry. 360 00:18:59,690 --> 00:19:01,036 - No, I'm talking about as far as, 361 00:19:01,070 --> 00:19:02,555 start planning now for when you get out, 362 00:19:02,589 --> 00:19:03,832 because you're going to get out. 363 00:19:03,866 --> 00:19:05,040 You're not going to be sitting in there 364 00:19:05,074 --> 00:19:06,593 like I was sitting in there, 365 00:19:06,628 --> 00:19:08,733 and not knowing what happen, what's going on. 366 00:19:09,769 --> 00:19:11,219 And how are you? 367 00:19:11,253 --> 00:19:13,428 What are your plans for the future? 368 00:19:13,462 --> 00:19:15,568 GIRL 2: 369 00:19:15,602 --> 00:19:17,294 - You still with your boyfriend? 370 00:19:18,605 --> 00:19:20,020 How old is he? 371 00:19:20,814 --> 00:19:22,816 And how old are you? 372 00:19:23,610 --> 00:19:25,440 15, I thought so. 373 00:19:25,474 --> 00:19:27,787 I know at the age of 15, 16, 374 00:19:27,821 --> 00:19:29,306 I wasn't in a life of crime, 375 00:19:29,340 --> 00:19:31,377 but when I met somebody, and that became my lifestyle. 376 00:19:31,411 --> 00:19:33,758 If you change your thinking, you'll change your behavior. 377 00:19:33,793 --> 00:19:35,415 Eliminate him out your life. 378 00:19:35,450 --> 00:19:37,106 Oh, he going to rehab, too? 379 00:19:38,142 --> 00:19:39,730 - Well, we ain't worried about him. 380 00:19:39,764 --> 00:19:42,111 Like, we kind of concentrating... 381 00:19:42,146 --> 00:19:44,459 - Okay, so you gotta worry about yourself. 382 00:19:44,493 --> 00:19:46,081 Yeah, I know. 383 00:19:46,115 --> 00:19:47,841 [girls talking indistinctly] 384 00:19:47,876 --> 00:19:51,983 METZ: When I met my husband, I was 18 and he was 32. 385 00:19:52,812 --> 00:19:54,400 My mom was, like, 386 00:19:54,434 --> 00:19:58,058 "He's going to take your youth away from you." 387 00:19:58,093 --> 00:20:01,200 I didn't understand what she meant. 388 00:20:02,511 --> 00:20:08,310 ♪ 389 00:20:08,345 --> 00:20:11,589 [people laughing, talking in background] 390 00:20:11,624 --> 00:20:15,041 [drums pounding] 391 00:20:17,664 --> 00:20:20,771 ♪ 392 00:20:26,294 --> 00:20:32,645 ♪ 393 00:20:40,825 --> 00:20:46,279 ♪ 394 00:20:46,314 --> 00:20:50,145 [people talking, calling in background] 395 00:20:50,179 --> 00:20:51,871 - What's up, champ? How you doing? 396 00:20:51,905 --> 00:20:54,701 All right, Sam! You made it, Sam! 397 00:20:54,736 --> 00:20:57,463 Stop! You gonna stop! 398 00:20:57,497 --> 00:20:58,809 Yeah, he nice. 399 00:20:58,843 --> 00:21:01,639 [brass band playing] 400 00:21:01,674 --> 00:21:05,885 [crowd cheering, whistling] 401 00:21:05,919 --> 00:21:11,408 [music continues] 402 00:21:11,442 --> 00:21:13,789 WOMAN: I like that! 403 00:21:13,824 --> 00:21:15,066 You're free! 404 00:21:15,101 --> 00:21:16,516 WOMAN 2: Come on, Boo! 405 00:21:16,551 --> 00:21:18,277 Come on, Boo, sing! 406 00:21:18,311 --> 00:21:20,002 Come on, Boo-Boo! 407 00:21:21,763 --> 00:21:22,971 She's free! 408 00:21:23,005 --> 00:21:26,802 She's free! She's free! 409 00:21:26,837 --> 00:21:30,496 [music continues] 410 00:21:30,530 --> 00:21:32,739 [laughing] 411 00:21:32,774 --> 00:21:34,327 METZ: I had a love-hate relationship 412 00:21:34,362 --> 00:21:37,330 with New Orleans because of what happened to me. 413 00:21:37,365 --> 00:21:41,783 You know, I was really mad for a long time. 414 00:21:41,817 --> 00:21:46,235 My son's father, he died when my son was six months old. 415 00:21:46,270 --> 00:21:50,930 He was murdered by the New Orleans police. 416 00:21:50,964 --> 00:21:53,242 I was really, like, devastated. 417 00:21:53,277 --> 00:21:56,867 Now I have a baby, I was 18, and it's, like 418 00:21:56,901 --> 00:21:58,489 how am I going to take care of this child? 419 00:21:58,524 --> 00:22:01,354 [crowd whistling, cheering] 420 00:22:01,389 --> 00:22:03,839 METZ: I met my husband through a friend. 421 00:22:03,874 --> 00:22:08,465 She was, like, "Girl, I saw this dude at the second line. 422 00:22:08,499 --> 00:22:11,226 They was all there, had on these mink coats and Rolex watches." 423 00:22:11,260 --> 00:22:12,814 And I was, like, "Who was that?" 424 00:22:12,848 --> 00:22:15,057 She said, "Girl, 425 00:22:15,092 --> 00:22:17,232 they said it was Glenn." 426 00:22:17,266 --> 00:22:19,303 He was almost, like, invisible. 427 00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:21,201 You heard about him, but you never got to see him. 428 00:22:21,236 --> 00:22:23,238 You could never say, "That's him over there." 429 00:22:23,272 --> 00:22:25,413 ♪ 430 00:22:25,447 --> 00:22:29,520 He asked me where I had been all his life. 431 00:22:29,555 --> 00:22:31,073 I was so immature then. 432 00:22:31,108 --> 00:22:34,836 I was 18 years old, he was 32. 433 00:22:34,870 --> 00:22:36,562 I started feeling kind of special, 434 00:22:36,596 --> 00:22:41,118 like I was the one that he choose to talk to. 435 00:22:42,533 --> 00:22:45,467 And he was, like, "This, this is how your life going to be." 436 00:22:45,502 --> 00:22:46,813 And I said, "What you mean?" 437 00:22:46,848 --> 00:22:48,159 He said, "Plentiful. 438 00:22:48,194 --> 00:22:50,127 You're not going to ever want for nothing." 439 00:22:51,818 --> 00:22:53,372 That's all I ever wanted, 440 00:22:53,406 --> 00:22:56,513 was to be able to take care of my son. 441 00:22:56,547 --> 00:23:00,758 ♪ 442 00:23:07,109 --> 00:23:08,973 REPORTER: Tonight, ringleader Glenn Metz 443 00:23:09,008 --> 00:23:11,079 and 13 other key players in the organization 444 00:23:11,113 --> 00:23:12,805 have been indicted by the federal grand jury 445 00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:16,395 on 54 separate counts. 446 00:23:16,429 --> 00:23:22,228 ♪ 447 00:23:28,130 --> 00:23:30,098 TANYA: I met Danielle 448 00:23:30,132 --> 00:23:34,585 in beauty school Uptown in 1985. 449 00:23:34,620 --> 00:23:36,829 And it's so funny how Uptown is. 450 00:23:36,863 --> 00:23:38,244 Everyone knew everybody. 451 00:23:38,278 --> 00:23:40,453 Like, all our parents kind of knew each other. 452 00:23:40,488 --> 00:23:42,904 I think most of my fondest memories 453 00:23:42,938 --> 00:23:46,148 was with you, kind of, like, growing up from that small. 454 00:23:46,183 --> 00:23:48,254 Like, we always got into it with somebody. 455 00:23:48,288 --> 00:23:50,221 [laughing] 456 00:23:50,256 --> 00:23:53,984 SHELITA RISIN: Danielle was very boy-crazy. 457 00:23:54,018 --> 00:23:55,572 A boy could look at her, and she'd, 458 00:23:55,606 --> 00:23:58,437 look, Tanya, "How I look? 'Cause he like me." 459 00:23:58,471 --> 00:23:59,852 [laughing] 460 00:23:59,886 --> 00:24:01,474 "Is he looking?" 461 00:24:01,509 --> 00:24:02,544 [laughing] 462 00:24:02,579 --> 00:24:04,443 - "That boy likes me." - That's right. 463 00:24:04,477 --> 00:24:07,515 [laughs] 464 00:24:07,549 --> 00:24:09,206 RISIN: When Carl was born, 465 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,553 she said, "He ugly? How he look?" 466 00:24:11,588 --> 00:24:13,279 - [laughing]: I said... - Oh, yeah, 467 00:24:13,313 --> 00:24:14,591 - you know why she said that? - You remember that? 468 00:24:14,625 --> 00:24:15,626 'Cause she said, 469 00:24:15,661 --> 00:24:17,145 "My baby wasn't 470 00:24:17,179 --> 00:24:18,871 - the most attractive baby." - She wasn't. 471 00:24:18,905 --> 00:24:20,942 - I'll never forget that, either. 472 00:24:20,976 --> 00:24:22,702 - She wasn't. [laughing] 473 00:24:24,014 --> 00:24:26,672 And so then, after that, you decided to go to beauty school? 474 00:24:26,706 --> 00:24:29,433 - Was it after you had Carl? - After I had Carl, 475 00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:31,090 'cause now I got to do something, I got... 476 00:24:31,124 --> 00:24:32,678 I knew I had my son-- I have to do something. 477 00:24:32,712 --> 00:24:34,680 Like, okay, if I go to school, 478 00:24:34,714 --> 00:24:36,405 then I won't have to worry about all that. 479 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,407 Now, I don't know if y'all remember, 480 00:24:38,442 --> 00:24:41,687 - but six months later... - Six months later, 481 00:24:41,721 --> 00:24:46,623 Carl's father was murdered by the policeman. 482 00:24:46,657 --> 00:24:48,279 It was hard-- we all were young. 483 00:24:48,314 --> 00:24:51,559 And I think-- my personal opinion-- 484 00:24:51,593 --> 00:24:57,288 through that, her vulnerability led her 485 00:24:57,323 --> 00:24:59,532 more towards her husband, Glenn Metz, 486 00:24:59,567 --> 00:25:02,466 and then there goes the story of Danielle 487 00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:07,022 and her journey that led her to that sentence. 488 00:25:07,057 --> 00:25:11,268 I just knew that was going to be a road to where it ended up. 489 00:25:12,476 --> 00:25:14,547 I, um... 490 00:25:14,582 --> 00:25:18,620 I, I never disapproved of their relationship. 491 00:25:18,655 --> 00:25:21,830 He, you know, like, he would fight her, 492 00:25:21,865 --> 00:25:23,970 you know, but, I mean... 493 00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:28,561 I didn't know it was serious until it was too late. 494 00:25:28,596 --> 00:25:32,013 Like, when she was going to court, it was a joke. 495 00:25:32,047 --> 00:25:34,084 I thought that 496 00:25:34,118 --> 00:25:36,224 we was all walk out the courthouse together. 497 00:25:36,258 --> 00:25:38,398 I never, in a million years, would have dreamed 498 00:25:38,433 --> 00:25:42,817 that she would've got a life sentence. 499 00:25:43,645 --> 00:25:47,580 Three life sentences and 20 years. 500 00:25:47,615 --> 00:25:49,099 Sometimes I feel bad, 501 00:25:49,133 --> 00:25:51,308 because I, I didn't think she was ever coming home. 502 00:25:51,342 --> 00:25:53,862 We all did-- you know, you used to write letters. 503 00:25:53,897 --> 00:25:56,140 They were so consistent. 504 00:25:56,175 --> 00:25:57,728 You know, "I'm coming home. 505 00:25:57,763 --> 00:25:59,488 [audio fading] "When I come home, do this. 506 00:25:59,523 --> 00:26:01,076 I'mma come home." 507 00:26:01,111 --> 00:26:04,252 ♪ 508 00:26:04,286 --> 00:26:07,289 [laughter and conversation continue softly] 509 00:26:08,152 --> 00:26:10,603 METZ: My friends, they really don't understand 510 00:26:10,638 --> 00:26:13,986 what my life is like. 511 00:26:14,020 --> 00:26:16,298 I had never saw my mom cry before. 512 00:26:16,333 --> 00:26:18,335 And my mom was, like, "I don't think you know 513 00:26:18,369 --> 00:26:19,647 "what just happened to you. 514 00:26:19,681 --> 00:26:21,614 [echoing]: "Do you know you have life? 515 00:26:21,649 --> 00:26:23,720 [woman laughing, film reel clicking] 516 00:26:23,754 --> 00:26:25,411 Do you know what that means?" 517 00:26:25,445 --> 00:26:29,035 WOMAN [on recording]: This call is from a federal prison. 518 00:26:29,070 --> 00:26:30,381 METZ: So many nights, 519 00:26:30,416 --> 00:26:33,350 so many people screaming and yelling. 520 00:26:33,384 --> 00:26:35,283 Something has happened at home. 521 00:26:35,317 --> 00:26:37,009 [echoing]: He had to restrain her. 522 00:26:37,043 --> 00:26:39,701 He hog-tied her, shackled, body slammed. 523 00:26:39,736 --> 00:26:44,568 I would see women contemplating suicide. 524 00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:47,053 Although my body was there, my mind didn't have to be there. 525 00:26:47,088 --> 00:26:50,229 My spirit was not going to be there. 526 00:26:50,263 --> 00:26:52,541 I wasn't going to lose my sanity. 527 00:26:52,576 --> 00:26:56,338 ♪ 528 00:27:02,621 --> 00:27:04,692 After being in prison for 18 years, 529 00:27:04,726 --> 00:27:07,177 I decided to work at UNICOR call center. 530 00:27:07,211 --> 00:27:10,663 That's where the 411 calls came in. 531 00:27:10,698 --> 00:27:16,324 The federal system uses inmates for outsourcing. 532 00:27:16,358 --> 00:27:19,672 We would sit at cubicles-- it was like a nine-to-five. 533 00:27:19,707 --> 00:27:21,536 [call beeps] City and state police. 534 00:27:21,570 --> 00:27:23,607 [voiceover]: We had to stay on less than a minute. 535 00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:25,851 - City and state police, may I have your listing? 536 00:27:25,885 --> 00:27:28,267 [voiceover]: And I didn't want to work there before, 537 00:27:28,301 --> 00:27:29,751 because it was almost like slave labor. 538 00:27:29,786 --> 00:27:33,824 They was paying us, like, maybe 69 cents an hour. 539 00:27:33,859 --> 00:27:35,895 May I have your listing? 540 00:27:35,930 --> 00:27:37,448 [people speaking over phone] 541 00:27:37,483 --> 00:27:38,933 [voiceover]: But after I got over there, 542 00:27:38,967 --> 00:27:41,521 it gave me, like, an escape. 543 00:27:41,556 --> 00:27:44,455 [people exclaiming, talking on phone line] 544 00:27:44,490 --> 00:27:48,183 That was my connection to the outside world. 545 00:27:48,218 --> 00:27:53,741 [children playing] 546 00:27:53,775 --> 00:27:58,228 ♪ 547 00:27:58,262 --> 00:28:02,957 [children playing] 548 00:28:02,991 --> 00:28:07,168 ♪ 549 00:28:08,272 --> 00:28:11,482 Once I log off, take my headset off, 550 00:28:11,517 --> 00:28:13,657 now you have officers escorting us. 551 00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:16,487 We have to get in line and, you know, get our bags searched, 552 00:28:16,522 --> 00:28:18,317 move through the metal detectors. 553 00:28:18,351 --> 00:28:23,840 Now you're going back into the prison part of it. 554 00:28:23,874 --> 00:28:25,427 People would ask me, 555 00:28:25,462 --> 00:28:28,914 "Well, how did you, how can you do this every day?" 556 00:28:28,948 --> 00:28:30,985 The women who I built the sisterhood with, 557 00:28:31,019 --> 00:28:32,780 they helped me do my time. 558 00:28:32,814 --> 00:28:36,991 We become as close as mothers, daughters, sisters. 559 00:28:37,025 --> 00:28:39,200 I've been in there 23 years, 560 00:28:39,234 --> 00:28:40,857 so I've been with them just as long as 561 00:28:40,891 --> 00:28:44,136 I've been with my real family. 562 00:28:46,414 --> 00:28:49,624 We would fantasize about being home all the time. 563 00:28:49,658 --> 00:28:53,593 ♪ 564 00:28:53,628 --> 00:28:56,769 And everybody would be by my mother house on a Sunday. 565 00:28:56,804 --> 00:29:00,290 She would have, like, smothered chicken, shrimp and okra. 566 00:29:00,324 --> 00:29:01,947 Ms. Pat, who was my roommate, 567 00:29:01,981 --> 00:29:06,330 she was, like, "Ooh, girl, I could just taste that now." 568 00:29:06,365 --> 00:29:08,885 MS. PAT [on phone]: Right, oh, yes, Dani. 569 00:29:08,919 --> 00:29:10,300 You remember that, Dani? 570 00:29:10,334 --> 00:29:12,889 I wish I had been able to come 571 00:29:12,923 --> 00:29:15,961 and see your mother before she passed. 572 00:29:15,995 --> 00:29:17,307 Because I knew she could cook, 573 00:29:17,341 --> 00:29:19,378 and you know how I love to eat, too. 574 00:29:19,412 --> 00:29:20,620 - Right. - Just like you. 575 00:29:20,655 --> 00:29:22,070 - Right. - We both greedy. 576 00:29:22,105 --> 00:29:24,279 - We both greedy. - [laughs] 577 00:29:24,314 --> 00:29:26,040 - Yep. - That's how I did my time. 578 00:29:26,074 --> 00:29:28,421 My body was there, 579 00:29:28,456 --> 00:29:31,114 but my mind was very seldom there, 580 00:29:31,148 --> 00:29:32,425 and I prayed myself 581 00:29:32,460 --> 00:29:34,358 - up out of there, too. - [chuckles] 582 00:29:34,393 --> 00:29:36,395 - You got in your word, didn't you? 583 00:29:36,429 --> 00:29:38,259 Yes, I did. 584 00:29:38,293 --> 00:29:40,054 - Prayed your way up out of there, too, 585 00:29:40,088 --> 00:29:41,710 because prayer works. 586 00:29:41,745 --> 00:29:44,506 So, Dani, tell me about the kids. 587 00:29:44,541 --> 00:29:47,268 - I just want to hear. - Well, you know, Ms. Pat, 588 00:29:47,302 --> 00:29:49,408 I still feel guilty about, you know, 589 00:29:49,442 --> 00:29:52,825 not being here all those years, 590 00:29:52,860 --> 00:29:55,345 and sometime, when I can't get to 591 00:29:55,379 --> 00:29:57,761 where they are right away, it makes me sad. 592 00:29:57,796 --> 00:29:59,763 - Now, one thing about the children I know, 593 00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:04,250 you can't allow them to hold you hostage 594 00:30:04,285 --> 00:30:07,529 to what has happened. 595 00:30:08,979 --> 00:30:13,397 And I know things have gone different ways with your son. 596 00:30:13,432 --> 00:30:15,952 My son did the same thing. 597 00:30:15,986 --> 00:30:17,919 They missed us, sweetheart. 598 00:30:17,954 --> 00:30:20,335 Even though they are adults now, 599 00:30:20,370 --> 00:30:22,544 they're still suffering. 600 00:30:22,579 --> 00:30:27,101 All you can do is pick up since you've been home. 601 00:30:27,135 --> 00:30:29,379 You can only start now. 602 00:30:29,413 --> 00:30:31,657 MAN: Please join me in welcoming Danielle Metz 603 00:30:31,691 --> 00:30:33,866 and Carmen James Randolph. 604 00:30:33,901 --> 00:30:38,975 [audience applauding] 605 00:30:39,009 --> 00:30:42,633 RANDOLPH: So, Danielle, let's go back to the 1990s. 606 00:30:42,668 --> 00:30:47,224 Janet Jackson was singing "That's the Way Love Goes." 607 00:30:47,259 --> 00:30:49,537 You were a young mother. 608 00:30:49,571 --> 00:30:52,747 Introduce us to who Danielle was at that time. 609 00:30:52,781 --> 00:30:54,335 METZ: It's ironic that you would say 610 00:30:54,369 --> 00:30:55,646 Janet Jackson, because that's 611 00:30:55,681 --> 00:30:57,821 who I wanted to be. [all laugh] 612 00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:01,963 That's who I really thought I was back in the day. 613 00:31:01,998 --> 00:31:04,345 She is my favorite, of all. 614 00:31:04,379 --> 00:31:07,313 After Beyoncé, now. 615 00:31:07,348 --> 00:31:09,591 [audience laughs] 616 00:31:09,626 --> 00:31:10,661 My mom would come, 617 00:31:10,696 --> 00:31:12,077 and even when I get ready to cry 618 00:31:12,111 --> 00:31:14,044 or I get-- you know, we get at the table 619 00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:15,528 and we have our little talks, 620 00:31:15,563 --> 00:31:17,151 she would always tell me, she said, 621 00:31:17,185 --> 00:31:18,428 "Boo, ain't no sense in crying. 622 00:31:18,462 --> 00:31:20,395 You did what you wanted to do." 623 00:31:20,430 --> 00:31:22,363 She said, "So, we just going to sit here 624 00:31:22,397 --> 00:31:24,330 "and eat these chicken wings, 625 00:31:24,365 --> 00:31:25,884 "and we not going to even worry about that, 626 00:31:25,918 --> 00:31:27,575 because if you get to crying, I'm going to leave." 627 00:31:27,609 --> 00:31:29,542 She said, "All you got to do is have a little faith." 628 00:31:29,577 --> 00:31:30,958 My mom was a realist, 629 00:31:30,992 --> 00:31:32,580 and I had two kids 630 00:31:32,614 --> 00:31:34,478 that I had to be responsible for, 631 00:31:34,513 --> 00:31:36,101 my son and my daughter. 632 00:31:36,135 --> 00:31:38,689 Both of them have never given me a problem 633 00:31:38,724 --> 00:31:40,691 the whole time I've been in prison. 634 00:31:40,726 --> 00:31:43,522 That says a lot, because the statistics says that 635 00:31:43,556 --> 00:31:46,283 they'll probably end up in prison themselves. 636 00:31:46,318 --> 00:31:47,906 Me and my son was writing, right? 637 00:31:47,940 --> 00:31:49,908 And he was telling me he wouldn't hang on the corner. 638 00:31:49,942 --> 00:31:51,392 And I told him, I said, "Why?" 639 00:31:51,426 --> 00:31:52,980 I said, "They're just hanging out." 640 00:31:53,014 --> 00:31:54,809 He said, "That's just not me," and I said, "Oh, okay." 641 00:31:54,843 --> 00:31:56,984 Right after we was talking about it, 642 00:31:57,018 --> 00:31:58,951 somebody ended up getting killed on the corner. 643 00:31:58,986 --> 00:32:00,125 So he said, "See, Ma, 644 00:32:00,159 --> 00:32:01,264 "that's why you wouldn't catch me around there 645 00:32:01,298 --> 00:32:02,472 like that, you know?" 646 00:32:02,506 --> 00:32:04,198 I said, "I would've been scared." 647 00:32:04,232 --> 00:32:05,371 And he said, "What you mean?" 648 00:32:05,406 --> 00:32:06,476 I said, "Because, 649 00:32:06,510 --> 00:32:08,133 "I ain't never had a gun before. 650 00:32:08,167 --> 00:32:09,617 "I never shot a gun. 651 00:32:09,651 --> 00:32:11,343 I never possessed a gun." 652 00:32:11,377 --> 00:32:12,378 He said, "What?" 653 00:32:12,413 --> 00:32:13,932 He said, "Mom, come on now." 654 00:32:13,966 --> 00:32:15,278 I said, "No." 655 00:32:15,312 --> 00:32:16,486 So, he needed to know that, 656 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,763 because whatever he was hearing 657 00:32:17,797 --> 00:32:19,523 or whatever people told him, 658 00:32:19,558 --> 00:32:21,629 he's thinking I'm one way, and I'm another way. 659 00:32:21,663 --> 00:32:23,527 So that's why I need 660 00:32:23,562 --> 00:32:24,908 to tell my own story rather than 661 00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:26,392 let somebody else tell it for me. 662 00:32:26,427 --> 00:32:27,842 [audience applauds] 663 00:32:27,876 --> 00:32:29,740 And it kind of broke my heart. 664 00:32:29,775 --> 00:32:31,639 I'm, like, "Well, who do you think I am?" 665 00:32:31,673 --> 00:32:33,123 CARL BERNARD: I remember just being 666 00:32:33,158 --> 00:32:35,954 by my grandmother watching Richard Pryor's stand-up. 667 00:32:35,988 --> 00:32:39,578 He was, like, "Man, I met a guy that had triple life. 668 00:32:39,612 --> 00:32:41,097 How bad were you?" 669 00:32:41,131 --> 00:32:42,857 RICHARD PRYOR: I met one brother, his name was Jay-Bo. 670 00:32:42,891 --> 00:32:45,515 He was doing a sentence, triple life. 671 00:32:45,549 --> 00:32:46,895 [audience laughs] 672 00:32:46,930 --> 00:32:50,485 How in the [bleep] do you do triple life? 673 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,177 [audience cheering, applauding] 674 00:32:52,211 --> 00:32:55,214 I mean, that mean if he die and come back... 675 00:32:55,249 --> 00:32:56,802 [audience laughs] 676 00:32:56,836 --> 00:32:58,424 ...he got to go to penitentiary. 677 00:32:58,459 --> 00:33:01,772 [audience laughing, applauding] 678 00:33:01,807 --> 00:33:03,636 CARL BERNARD: It was early in the morning, like, 679 00:33:03,671 --> 00:33:05,811 when the federal agents kicked down the door, 680 00:33:05,845 --> 00:33:07,744 put guns to me and my grandparents. 681 00:33:07,778 --> 00:33:10,229 They're tearing the whole house up, like, literally, 682 00:33:10,264 --> 00:33:13,025 like, beds, cutting mattresses, 683 00:33:13,060 --> 00:33:15,269 and opening up cabinets, really, like, 684 00:33:15,303 --> 00:33:18,168 ramshacking everything, like, breaking TVs-- where is my mom? 685 00:33:18,203 --> 00:33:20,032 "Do you know how long she's going to be gone? 686 00:33:20,067 --> 00:33:22,966 Do you know exactly it is where she at?" 687 00:33:23,001 --> 00:33:25,417 ♪ 688 00:33:25,451 --> 00:33:27,971 My first time seeing her through the glass, 689 00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:29,662 you know, it gave me an understanding 690 00:33:29,697 --> 00:33:31,319 of what really was going on somewhat. 691 00:33:31,354 --> 00:33:34,702 You know, not to the extent as far as what length of time 692 00:33:34,736 --> 00:33:37,118 or things of that nature, but, "Okay, she's in jail." 693 00:33:37,153 --> 00:33:39,983 REPORTER: The government contends Glenn Metz and his wife 694 00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:42,951 were the bosses of a highly structured organization 695 00:33:42,986 --> 00:33:45,057 that employed the other defendants on trial as hitmen, 696 00:33:45,092 --> 00:33:47,163 drug distributors, and collectors. 697 00:33:47,197 --> 00:33:49,165 ADRIAN BERNARD: Danielle asked me to take her kids. 698 00:33:49,199 --> 00:33:51,719 She didn't want them in New Orleans. 699 00:33:51,753 --> 00:33:53,548 And she knew family and friends 700 00:33:53,583 --> 00:33:56,103 would be talking about everything that happened, 701 00:33:56,137 --> 00:34:00,659 and she just wanted the kids away from that noise. 702 00:34:00,693 --> 00:34:05,319 For the first two years, Carl stayed with me, 703 00:34:05,353 --> 00:34:07,079 and when he turned nine, 704 00:34:07,114 --> 00:34:11,187 he asked his mom to move back to New Orleans 705 00:34:11,221 --> 00:34:14,190 with his paternal grandmother. 706 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:18,021 I relocated to Northern California, 707 00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:23,199 which was about 45 minutes from where Danielle was housed, 708 00:34:23,233 --> 00:34:25,684 for her to have an opportunity 709 00:34:25,718 --> 00:34:27,686 to have a relationship with her daughter. 710 00:34:28,997 --> 00:34:33,450 HAYTER: On visiting day, we got there about 7:45-ish. 711 00:34:33,485 --> 00:34:35,521 We would just sit in that visiting shed 712 00:34:35,556 --> 00:34:37,834 and try to compact everything that happened 713 00:34:37,868 --> 00:34:40,008 in that week of main events, 714 00:34:40,043 --> 00:34:44,254 things that were missed, in that one sitting. 715 00:34:44,289 --> 00:34:46,670 We would cry, laugh, sing, 716 00:34:46,705 --> 00:34:48,465 do all kinds of stuff-- tell jokes. 717 00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:52,814 You know, I'd try to keep the strong face on for my mom 718 00:34:52,849 --> 00:34:55,645 so she didn't have to worry about me being emotional. 719 00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:57,612 While my brother, for the most part, 720 00:34:57,647 --> 00:34:59,027 he would cry a lot, 721 00:34:59,062 --> 00:35:00,788 but I would try to comfort him and tell him 722 00:35:00,822 --> 00:35:03,722 it's going to be okay. 723 00:35:03,756 --> 00:35:05,310 CARL BERNARD: On family day, they allow you 724 00:35:05,344 --> 00:35:07,898 to actually, like, go into the facilities, 725 00:35:07,933 --> 00:35:09,797 and it had basketball. 726 00:35:09,831 --> 00:35:11,937 [children playing] 727 00:35:11,971 --> 00:35:14,077 I always would get mad that she'll beat me, 728 00:35:14,112 --> 00:35:16,528 because I thought that I could beat her at everything. 729 00:35:16,562 --> 00:35:18,978 She would not let me win. 730 00:35:19,013 --> 00:35:21,084 She'll let me get super, super close, 731 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:22,396 and then she'd just come with this, like, 732 00:35:22,430 --> 00:35:24,191 this special move, and... 733 00:35:24,225 --> 00:35:26,745 You're having so much fun, you're with your mom, 734 00:35:26,779 --> 00:35:28,781 things really, like, seem somewhat normal, 735 00:35:28,816 --> 00:35:30,438 because you're back with your mom, so... 736 00:35:30,473 --> 00:35:32,578 But, like, every other hour, you would just look at the clock, 737 00:35:32,613 --> 00:35:34,235 and as the time go, 738 00:35:34,270 --> 00:35:36,306 it's just getting more sad and more sad as the time pass. 739 00:35:36,341 --> 00:35:39,275 So by the time, like, it gets to, like, 2:45, 740 00:35:39,309 --> 00:35:40,552 you go sit on your mom lap, 741 00:35:40,586 --> 00:35:42,381 you go to hug her and stuff like that, 742 00:35:42,416 --> 00:35:44,970 and that would really, like, hit me every single time. 743 00:35:45,004 --> 00:35:47,006 I would just blank out, and just really, like, 744 00:35:47,041 --> 00:35:48,353 "Dang, this is really you." 745 00:35:48,387 --> 00:35:50,665 Like, "This, this is really your life." 746 00:35:52,874 --> 00:35:55,291 That last day, we would have to almost 747 00:35:55,325 --> 00:35:58,811 pry him away from his mother. 748 00:36:03,747 --> 00:36:06,233 CARL BERNARD: Imagine being six, seven years old, 749 00:36:06,267 --> 00:36:10,064 really thinking that you may not see your mom, like, ever again 750 00:36:10,098 --> 00:36:11,307 as a free person. 751 00:36:11,341 --> 00:36:14,275 [birds calling] 752 00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:18,866 It made me, like, not really, like, have feelings. 753 00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:22,283 To this day, I try to work on that, to feel. 754 00:36:22,318 --> 00:36:23,974 Like, to feel things. 755 00:36:28,151 --> 00:36:31,327 My question, since a kid, was, was always, was, like, 756 00:36:31,361 --> 00:36:32,880 "What would be the best for me?" 757 00:36:32,914 --> 00:36:34,433 You know, "How could I really, like, 758 00:36:34,468 --> 00:36:35,848 "be in my best state of mind, 759 00:36:35,883 --> 00:36:38,196 "be the best person that I possibly would be, 760 00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:40,163 "with the circumstances really, like, being 761 00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:42,234 "what the circumstances being, as it's pertaining to 762 00:36:42,269 --> 00:36:45,962 you know, my mom or whatnot?" So, yeah. 763 00:36:52,658 --> 00:36:54,660 Yeah, peace is everything to me. 764 00:36:56,283 --> 00:36:57,629 Driving is soothing. 765 00:36:57,663 --> 00:36:59,527 You know, anything for me to, um, 766 00:36:59,562 --> 00:37:02,427 to soothe my mind, I do it. 767 00:37:02,461 --> 00:37:04,394 So no radio, no nothing. 768 00:37:04,429 --> 00:37:06,810 No company, just riding. 769 00:37:09,296 --> 00:37:10,607 I always was a loner. 770 00:37:10,642 --> 00:37:12,057 That's one of the things that 771 00:37:12,091 --> 00:37:16,199 I think I needed to just stay, just, focused. 772 00:37:18,512 --> 00:37:21,998 ♪ 773 00:37:22,032 --> 00:37:23,620 It was just too heavy on me, 774 00:37:23,655 --> 00:37:26,244 just me trying to process everything. 775 00:37:28,142 --> 00:37:33,043 ♪ 776 00:37:33,078 --> 00:37:34,493 When she came home, like, you know, 777 00:37:34,528 --> 00:37:38,014 as happy as I was, my soul was just exhausted. 778 00:37:40,050 --> 00:37:42,087 You know, you're trying 779 00:37:42,121 --> 00:37:43,813 for her, and for yourself, as well, 780 00:37:43,847 --> 00:37:46,091 to be something that you haven't been 781 00:37:46,125 --> 00:37:50,198 for the last 33 years of your life. 782 00:37:56,722 --> 00:38:00,519 ♪ 783 00:38:00,554 --> 00:38:04,799 [birds chirping] 784 00:38:24,888 --> 00:38:26,442 METZ: I miss her. 785 00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:30,204 I miss her, and sometimes, like, I just feel like... 786 00:38:30,238 --> 00:38:33,069 [sniffles]: ...I'm out here by myself, like... 787 00:38:34,070 --> 00:38:36,106 You know, my son, him was in a book called 788 00:38:36,141 --> 00:38:38,177 "Alone in the World," and every time I think about it, 789 00:38:38,212 --> 00:38:39,593 I'll be, like, "Well, that's what I am. 790 00:38:39,627 --> 00:38:43,079 "Alone in the world, just me, myself, and I, 791 00:38:43,113 --> 00:38:46,358 riding down the street by myself." 792 00:38:46,393 --> 00:38:47,704 I'm fine. 793 00:38:48,878 --> 00:38:50,120 I'm fine. 794 00:38:50,155 --> 00:38:52,571 You know, other people think that, 795 00:38:52,606 --> 00:38:55,643 you know, like, when you're in prison, or, just saying that 796 00:38:55,678 --> 00:38:57,162 all that I've overcome, 797 00:38:57,196 --> 00:38:58,681 like, you still don't have life, everyday issues. 798 00:38:58,715 --> 00:39:01,028 They say, "Well, you ought to be glad you're home. 799 00:39:01,062 --> 00:39:02,581 Just worry about you being home." 800 00:39:02,616 --> 00:39:03,651 But it's a lot come with that. 801 00:39:03,686 --> 00:39:05,066 It's not just you being home. 802 00:39:05,101 --> 00:39:07,068 You still have to deal with your emotions, 803 00:39:07,103 --> 00:39:09,070 your struggles, your progress. 804 00:39:09,105 --> 00:39:11,901 It's still a process. 805 00:39:11,935 --> 00:39:14,766 And I know I'm far from perfect, 806 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,734 you know, but I'm trying. 807 00:39:17,769 --> 00:39:20,081 And I'm making all the effort... 808 00:39:20,116 --> 00:39:21,945 [sniffles]: ...to be the best example I can be 809 00:39:21,980 --> 00:39:24,534 to my kids, to the community, 810 00:39:24,569 --> 00:39:25,777 to my mom, 811 00:39:25,811 --> 00:39:27,779 to my nephews, 812 00:39:27,813 --> 00:39:30,057 to all of the young girls in the past that 813 00:39:30,091 --> 00:39:31,403 probably knew Danielle 814 00:39:31,438 --> 00:39:33,578 when I was out there in the world, 815 00:39:33,612 --> 00:39:38,203 to just be a good example. 816 00:39:53,252 --> 00:39:54,461 HAYTER: This is our house. 817 00:39:54,495 --> 00:39:57,947 This is where we stay, right here. 818 00:39:59,155 --> 00:40:01,019 METZ: I'm just glad that, you know, 819 00:40:01,053 --> 00:40:02,434 you had somewhere to stay 820 00:40:02,469 --> 00:40:04,298 while I was in, in prison and stuff. 821 00:40:04,332 --> 00:40:05,782 Your auntie did a 822 00:40:05,817 --> 00:40:08,129 wonderful job raising you guys, 823 00:40:08,164 --> 00:40:10,511 and just bringing y'all into a good environment 824 00:40:10,546 --> 00:40:12,479 and having somewhere that you can, 825 00:40:12,513 --> 00:40:15,861 you know, a place that you can call home. 826 00:40:15,896 --> 00:40:17,242 This house right here 827 00:40:17,276 --> 00:40:19,796 was where one of my boyfriends used to stay. 828 00:40:19,831 --> 00:40:22,661 - [laughs] - One of your boyfriends? 829 00:40:22,696 --> 00:40:24,422 You ain't had no boyfriend. 830 00:40:24,456 --> 00:40:25,492 Yes, I did. 831 00:40:25,526 --> 00:40:28,184 - Oh, you did? - [laughing]: Mm-hmm. 832 00:40:28,218 --> 00:40:29,979 I forgot to write you about that. 833 00:40:30,013 --> 00:40:33,189 - Oh, okay, okay. - [laughs] 834 00:40:33,223 --> 00:40:36,192 - [fussing] HAYTER: Hey. 835 00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:39,471 - Oh, the pumpkin. - Does she have her toy 836 00:40:39,506 --> 00:40:42,129 or anything in there? 837 00:40:42,163 --> 00:40:44,545 [objects in bag shifting] 838 00:40:44,580 --> 00:40:46,409 There, my little pumpkin. 839 00:40:47,928 --> 00:40:49,999 Thank you. 840 00:40:50,033 --> 00:40:52,001 I had Chinese food. 841 00:40:52,035 --> 00:40:53,140 Victory was just, like, 842 00:40:53,174 --> 00:40:54,555 "String beans!" 843 00:40:54,590 --> 00:40:57,938 [laughs] 844 00:40:57,972 --> 00:41:00,941 I did give her a little iced tea, though. 845 00:41:00,975 --> 00:41:02,598 - Iced-- Mama! 846 00:41:02,632 --> 00:41:04,151 I cannot trust her with you. 847 00:41:04,185 --> 00:41:06,636 - No, you can. - That's caffeine. 848 00:41:06,671 --> 00:41:08,017 Babies is not supposed to 849 00:41:08,051 --> 00:41:09,052 - drink tea like that. - No. 850 00:41:09,087 --> 00:41:10,606 Oh, my God. 851 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,986 Babies can't have tea, Neisha? 852 00:41:12,021 --> 00:41:13,332 Mama... 853 00:41:13,367 --> 00:41:15,127 - A little tea, unsweetened iced tea? 854 00:41:16,128 --> 00:41:19,373 And, uh, what else did I give her? 855 00:41:21,133 --> 00:41:23,481 HAYTER [voiceover]: Now that my mom's home, 856 00:41:23,515 --> 00:41:26,276 it's, like, "Mom, I'm not a kid anymore," you know? 857 00:41:26,311 --> 00:41:28,037 She wants to tell me, 858 00:41:28,071 --> 00:41:29,176 "Oh, you don't need to do this," 859 00:41:29,210 --> 00:41:30,488 or she wants to tell me 860 00:41:30,522 --> 00:41:31,868 how to raise my child, and I'm, like, 861 00:41:31,903 --> 00:41:33,905 "No, Mama." 862 00:41:33,939 --> 00:41:35,907 "Mama." 863 00:41:35,941 --> 00:41:37,978 But sometimes I am fearful, 864 00:41:38,012 --> 00:41:41,464 as a mother, because I don't really know how to be a mother, 865 00:41:41,499 --> 00:41:45,468 and I've never seen a mother figure. 866 00:41:45,503 --> 00:41:48,333 I had my aunt, but I didn't have a mom. 867 00:41:48,367 --> 00:41:52,510 So a lot of times, I'm praying and winging it. 868 00:41:53,511 --> 00:41:56,203 METZ: Ooh, lookit, she's running for Granny. 869 00:41:56,237 --> 00:41:57,584 Look, look, look, look. 870 00:41:57,618 --> 00:41:59,965 HAYTER: When I walk in and I see my mom 871 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,242 here with Victory, 872 00:42:01,277 --> 00:42:04,383 sometimes I have to pinch myself. 873 00:42:04,418 --> 00:42:06,869 - I still can't believe it. - All right! 874 00:42:06,903 --> 00:42:09,665 HAYTER: I wish she would come and stay up this way, 875 00:42:09,699 --> 00:42:12,150 but she's pretty busy and going back to school 876 00:42:12,184 --> 00:42:16,326 and trying to get her life back on track. 877 00:42:16,361 --> 00:42:18,812 METZ: Ooh, you running laps, girl. 878 00:42:18,846 --> 00:42:19,951 Run. 879 00:42:20,814 --> 00:42:24,127 MAN: Team, today, we'll be doing our collective canvass 880 00:42:24,162 --> 00:42:25,404 in the Central City target area. 881 00:42:25,439 --> 00:42:26,923 Danielle Metz will be taking the lead. 882 00:42:26,958 --> 00:42:28,615 METZ: Let's go on by the project food store first. 883 00:42:28,649 --> 00:42:30,686 You know, by the Magnolia, the Melpomene. 884 00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:32,239 That's our target area. 885 00:42:32,273 --> 00:42:34,379 Anything going on today? 886 00:42:34,413 --> 00:42:35,414 You staying out of trouble, huh? 887 00:42:35,449 --> 00:42:36,692 - Yeah. - All right. 888 00:42:36,726 --> 00:42:38,176 What I told you? 889 00:42:38,210 --> 00:42:40,454 - Stay good, stay working, stay out of trouble. 890 00:42:40,488 --> 00:42:41,731 ♪ 891 00:42:41,766 --> 00:42:45,321 WOMAN: She has served as an advocate and mentor. 892 00:42:45,355 --> 00:42:47,634 Danielle Metz. [audience applauding] 893 00:42:47,668 --> 00:42:49,497 METZ: So when the judge gave me life, 894 00:42:49,532 --> 00:42:51,465 he told me I had forfeited my right 895 00:42:51,499 --> 00:42:53,432 to live in a humane society. 896 00:42:53,467 --> 00:42:55,434 He was going to make me out an example 897 00:42:55,469 --> 00:42:59,611 for anybody that wished to follow in my footsteps. 898 00:42:59,646 --> 00:43:02,303 We all have a past, and a lot of us are not proud of things that 899 00:43:02,338 --> 00:43:04,340 we have done in the past, but it is not gonna do us 900 00:43:04,374 --> 00:43:06,238 any good to stay focused on it. 901 00:43:06,273 --> 00:43:09,517 Our names are gonna go farther than our faces ever will. 902 00:43:09,552 --> 00:43:11,554 So use this as a launching pad. 903 00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:13,487 And thank you and have a great day. 904 00:43:13,521 --> 00:43:16,179 [applauding] 905 00:43:18,561 --> 00:43:21,046 Me becoming a mentor and working every day 906 00:43:21,081 --> 00:43:23,704 and going to school, it's therapeutic for me. 907 00:43:26,017 --> 00:43:28,157 It is a loneliness inside me. 908 00:43:28,191 --> 00:43:30,331 I have to keep moving. 909 00:43:30,366 --> 00:43:32,713 I have to keep going to not think about it. 910 00:43:32,748 --> 00:43:36,165 Hi, are you making an appointment for the FIT Clinic? 911 00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:37,235 When was your release date? 912 00:43:37,269 --> 00:43:39,099 Yeah, we treat for everything. 913 00:43:39,133 --> 00:43:42,171 Hey, Mr. Dave, how you doing? 914 00:43:42,205 --> 00:43:43,759 You know, coming out of prison, 915 00:43:43,793 --> 00:43:46,244 people don't realize how important healthcare is 916 00:43:46,278 --> 00:43:48,556 on the inside, but I know when I was in there, 917 00:43:48,591 --> 00:43:50,524 you rarely ever got treated for anything. 918 00:43:50,558 --> 00:43:52,146 Is that how it was where you was at? 919 00:43:52,181 --> 00:43:55,011 Last year, I was just employed at Cure Violence, 920 00:43:55,046 --> 00:43:57,220 formerly CeaseFire. 921 00:43:57,255 --> 00:43:59,222 Now I'm the Formerly Incarcerated Transition 922 00:43:59,257 --> 00:44:01,915 community health worker under Tulane University. 923 00:44:01,949 --> 00:44:04,365 [audience applauding] I'm still attending school. 924 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,715 I'm just using my story as a vehicle to change things. 925 00:44:12,580 --> 00:44:14,824 Come here, girl. 926 00:44:14,859 --> 00:44:16,757 That's my little niece. 927 00:44:16,792 --> 00:44:20,243 [giggling] 928 00:44:20,278 --> 00:44:21,417 You chilling? 929 00:44:21,451 --> 00:44:25,248 [talking in background] 930 00:44:25,283 --> 00:44:27,354 - I got to pass by my auntie house. 931 00:44:27,388 --> 00:44:28,976 You know, that's my auntie who told on me. 932 00:44:29,011 --> 00:44:33,532 - I know-- I know that. - The one with the blonde hair. 933 00:44:33,567 --> 00:44:35,983 REPORTER: Angela Bernard wove a spellbinding tale 934 00:44:36,018 --> 00:44:38,296 of the Metz organization and its profits. 935 00:44:38,330 --> 00:44:39,711 She recounted how her nephew, 936 00:44:39,746 --> 00:44:42,300 Glenn Metz, recruited her in 1987 937 00:44:42,334 --> 00:44:46,718 to count money for the alleged gang. 938 00:44:46,753 --> 00:44:50,308 METZ: I know how much my mom love her sister. 939 00:44:50,342 --> 00:44:53,380 That was her baby sister, my aunt, 940 00:44:53,414 --> 00:44:55,382 the one person that I trusted. 941 00:44:56,797 --> 00:45:00,663 I'd never think that it would come to that, but it did. 942 00:45:00,698 --> 00:45:03,286 REPORTER: Bernard testified she and Danielle Metz 943 00:45:03,321 --> 00:45:04,702 often traveled to Houston 944 00:45:04,736 --> 00:45:06,151 with thousands of dollars concealed 945 00:45:06,186 --> 00:45:07,670 in a specially built station wagon 946 00:45:07,705 --> 00:45:11,294 for Colombian drug dealers to pack with cocaine. 947 00:45:13,124 --> 00:45:14,988 METZ: She and I, we would go out of town 948 00:45:15,022 --> 00:45:18,129 from New Orleans to Houston. 949 00:45:18,163 --> 00:45:19,475 In my mind, I put it like 950 00:45:19,509 --> 00:45:21,339 I wasn't going to do anything illegal, 951 00:45:21,373 --> 00:45:25,136 which, I knew it was illegal. 952 00:45:25,170 --> 00:45:27,069 We had a lot of tension in the house. 953 00:45:27,103 --> 00:45:28,656 Sometime he would hit me. 954 00:45:28,691 --> 00:45:30,382 Like, I didn't want no problems with him. 955 00:45:30,417 --> 00:45:31,867 I didn't want to argue with him or nothing. 956 00:45:31,901 --> 00:45:33,420 So I kind of initiated it. 957 00:45:33,454 --> 00:45:34,973 Not kind of, I initiated. 958 00:45:35,008 --> 00:45:37,665 He didn't ask me to do anything for him-- I volunteered. 959 00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:39,184 I said, "Well, you know, you know, 960 00:45:39,219 --> 00:45:40,323 "if you need somebody to do something 961 00:45:40,358 --> 00:45:41,704 for you, then I'll do it." 962 00:45:41,739 --> 00:45:43,188 You know, like, I figure I'm his wife. 963 00:45:43,223 --> 00:45:44,569 You know, like, I'm here. 964 00:45:44,603 --> 00:45:48,642 You know, that was my thinking then. 965 00:45:48,676 --> 00:45:50,713 "Okay, I'll do it, or whatever you need me to do." 966 00:45:50,748 --> 00:45:52,957 Now, I didn't think he would take me up on it. 967 00:45:52,991 --> 00:45:57,271 But that's what happened. 968 00:46:00,758 --> 00:46:02,483 When you're in that kind of relationship, 969 00:46:02,518 --> 00:46:04,175 that's something you really hide, 970 00:46:04,209 --> 00:46:08,041 that you don't want nobody to know. 971 00:46:08,075 --> 00:46:11,872 It cost me my life. 972 00:46:11,907 --> 00:46:16,566 ♪ 973 00:46:19,466 --> 00:46:21,848 They were so small, and every visit, 974 00:46:21,882 --> 00:46:25,127 they were getting taller and bigger and bigger. 975 00:46:25,161 --> 00:46:27,819 Christmas was the hardest time for me. 976 00:46:27,854 --> 00:46:29,959 But at the end of the visit, we would always, 977 00:46:29,994 --> 00:46:31,443 "Everybody bow their heads. 978 00:46:31,478 --> 00:46:34,757 Next Christmas, your mom is gonna be home." 979 00:46:34,792 --> 00:46:38,899 ["We Wish You a Merry Christmas" playing] 980 00:46:38,934 --> 00:46:41,764 Sometimes, I try to just push it out of my mind, 981 00:46:41,799 --> 00:46:45,457 like, it's not really the holiday season. 982 00:46:45,492 --> 00:46:50,152 Carl says, "Oh, man, I'm so happy that 983 00:46:50,186 --> 00:46:52,395 I'm not on my way to visit you in prison." 984 00:46:52,430 --> 00:46:54,087 And I was, like, "Huh?" 985 00:46:54,121 --> 00:46:55,364 And he was, like, "You know, 986 00:46:55,398 --> 00:46:56,917 "we'd be on our way up there right now 987 00:46:56,952 --> 00:46:58,816 "if you weren't home. 988 00:46:58,850 --> 00:47:01,542 "And Granny would be telling us how to behave, 989 00:47:01,577 --> 00:47:03,061 'Make sure my daughter's not upset.'" 990 00:47:03,096 --> 00:47:06,893 I said, "I don't even want to think about it." 991 00:47:06,927 --> 00:47:09,585 I didn't know if I was happy or sad. 992 00:47:09,619 --> 00:47:13,209 Just like now, I still don't know if I'm happy or I'm sad. 993 00:47:16,385 --> 00:47:18,145 You know, holidays, 994 00:47:18,180 --> 00:47:20,907 you know, you look to spending with your family and... 995 00:47:22,184 --> 00:47:23,702 I wish I can go back and start 996 00:47:23,737 --> 00:47:25,394 from when they were seven years old 997 00:47:25,428 --> 00:47:28,052 and just have plans and say, 998 00:47:28,086 --> 00:47:29,674 "This is what we gonna do." 999 00:47:29,708 --> 00:47:33,678 But Carl, he kind of introverted person. 1000 00:47:33,712 --> 00:47:35,749 He don't-- you know, he do his own thing. 1001 00:47:35,783 --> 00:47:39,615 My daughter, she's going somewhere else for Christmas 1002 00:47:39,649 --> 00:47:41,513 with her other side of the family, 1003 00:47:41,548 --> 00:47:45,241 somewhere in another city, another state. 1004 00:47:45,276 --> 00:47:46,898 ["God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen" playing] 1005 00:47:46,933 --> 00:47:50,384 I always think and ask myself, "Am I supposed to be here? 1006 00:47:50,419 --> 00:47:52,662 [music playing, bell ringing] 1007 00:47:52,697 --> 00:47:57,012 "Is this what I'm supposed to be doing? 1008 00:47:58,461 --> 00:48:03,742 Is this where God want me at now?" 1009 00:48:17,964 --> 00:48:20,863 [laughs] 1010 00:48:20,898 --> 00:48:22,692 What's up, baby? 1011 00:48:22,727 --> 00:48:25,868 - Dani, girl. - [laughing]: Hey. 1012 00:48:25,903 --> 00:48:27,180 Who would have ever thought, huh? 1013 00:48:27,214 --> 00:48:28,457 Wow. 1014 00:48:28,491 --> 00:48:30,459 Oh, my God, you look like a model. 1015 00:48:30,493 --> 00:48:31,874 - [laughs] - Oh, go ahead. 1016 00:48:31,909 --> 00:48:33,324 - You look good. - I'm all right. 1017 00:48:33,358 --> 00:48:35,084 - I love your hair and everything. 1018 00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:37,466 When I was in prison, when people would say, 1019 00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:38,916 "How long have you been in prison?" 1020 00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:41,228 a lot of the time, I would just be, like, 1021 00:48:41,263 --> 00:48:43,748 "This long," but it was down to here. 1022 00:48:43,782 --> 00:48:45,577 - [laughing]: Yeah, right, right, right. 1023 00:48:45,612 --> 00:48:47,890 - Have you ever been to Arkansas? 1024 00:48:47,925 --> 00:48:49,616 - The only thing I know about Arkansas 1025 00:48:49,650 --> 00:48:53,068 - is President Clinton and you. - [laughs] 1026 00:48:53,102 --> 00:48:56,968 Well, here is what I call the war room. 1027 00:48:57,003 --> 00:48:58,452 Oh, my gosh. 1028 00:48:58,487 --> 00:49:00,661 - That's just a small percentage, 1029 00:49:00,696 --> 00:49:02,491 because I just wanted to help women. 1030 00:49:02,525 --> 00:49:04,217 For a long time, you know, that's all I did. 1031 00:49:04,251 --> 00:49:05,908 I just did you women, 1032 00:49:05,943 --> 00:49:07,772 knowing that we were mostly just in there 1033 00:49:07,806 --> 00:49:11,534 because of what a husband or boyfriend did. 1034 00:49:11,569 --> 00:49:12,639 So it started off real small, 1035 00:49:12,673 --> 00:49:13,951 and then I finally just said, 1036 00:49:13,985 --> 00:49:15,504 "Oh, screw it, I'll just, you know, 1037 00:49:15,538 --> 00:49:17,230 let's just help everybody." 1038 00:49:17,264 --> 00:49:18,921 But it has me spread so thin, 1039 00:49:18,956 --> 00:49:21,544 because I don't, I don't really have the infrastructure. 1040 00:49:21,579 --> 00:49:23,995 But do you-- here's all of, 1041 00:49:24,030 --> 00:49:26,653 here's all of us that were together. 1042 00:49:26,687 --> 00:49:28,517 - Yeah, yeah. - So you and [unintelligible] 1043 00:49:28,551 --> 00:49:30,070 and Angie. 1044 00:49:30,105 --> 00:49:31,969 And sometimes we'd all be 1045 00:49:32,003 --> 00:49:34,488 - in the law library together. - Yeah. 1046 00:49:34,523 --> 00:49:39,217 - This is unbelievable that-- the odds, 1047 00:49:39,252 --> 00:49:41,737 the David and Goliath element to this story-- 1048 00:49:41,771 --> 00:49:44,360 that we're sitting here trying to understand the law 1049 00:49:44,395 --> 00:49:49,020 to defend ourselves, up against, you know, Goliath. 1050 00:49:49,055 --> 00:49:51,505 - I always thought you was going home anyway. 1051 00:49:51,540 --> 00:49:54,612 You know, you, you was the typical candidate: 1052 00:49:54,646 --> 00:49:57,166 green eyes, blonde hair. 1053 00:49:57,201 --> 00:49:59,065 I just thought that you would always go home. 1054 00:49:59,099 --> 00:50:01,343 That's just how, you know, the scales are. 1055 00:50:01,377 --> 00:50:02,689 It's kind of sad, in a way, 1056 00:50:02,723 --> 00:50:04,104 - isn't it, though? - Yeah. 1057 00:50:04,139 --> 00:50:07,142 - But that's the way it is. - It's sad. It is sad. 1058 00:50:09,144 --> 00:50:13,941 My own sentence was commuted by President Clinton in 2000. 1059 00:50:13,976 --> 00:50:16,599 I felt like what was so important 1060 00:50:16,634 --> 00:50:20,741 with my own case is exposure. 1061 00:50:20,776 --> 00:50:24,124 What do we need to do to bring women out of prison 1062 00:50:24,159 --> 00:50:26,575 so that they have a presence out here 1063 00:50:26,609 --> 00:50:31,683 in the collective consciousness of society? 1064 00:50:31,718 --> 00:50:34,997 I married a successful businessman, 1065 00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:39,277 and he believed in the medicinal properties of MDMA. 1066 00:50:39,312 --> 00:50:43,454 He was embarking on a business venture, basically, 1067 00:50:43,488 --> 00:50:45,456 to have it manufactured. 1068 00:50:46,353 --> 00:50:49,908 I had periphial exposure 1069 00:50:49,943 --> 00:50:52,497 that sucked me into the conspiracy statute, 1070 00:50:52,532 --> 00:50:54,154 which means if you do one thing, 1071 00:50:54,189 --> 00:50:58,124 you're guilty for everything that everybody else has done. 1072 00:50:58,158 --> 00:51:01,782 So, I was sentenced in '92 to 24 years to FCI Dublin. 1073 00:51:01,817 --> 00:51:03,267 I'm witnessing all these 1074 00:51:03,301 --> 00:51:05,890 other women who are in the same situation I was, 1075 00:51:05,924 --> 00:51:07,685 who just had periphial involvement 1076 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:13,242 due to their relationship to a husband or boyfriend. 1077 00:51:13,277 --> 00:51:18,730 The whole prison experience for me was, 1078 00:51:18,765 --> 00:51:21,871 as much as I hate to admit it, um, 1079 00:51:21,906 --> 00:51:24,322 it's where I found my purpose. 1080 00:51:24,357 --> 00:51:27,946 And I feel like we were given an education. 1081 00:51:27,981 --> 00:51:30,121 You learn everything about going to trial. 1082 00:51:30,156 --> 00:51:31,674 And then, when you're done, you're, like, 1083 00:51:31,709 --> 00:51:32,744 "Well, I won't get an opportunity 1084 00:51:32,779 --> 00:51:34,539 - to do that again." - Right. 1085 00:51:34,574 --> 00:51:36,714 - But now I know everything I would've done different. 1086 00:51:36,748 --> 00:51:39,026 Well, now you're an expert. 1087 00:51:40,131 --> 00:51:42,651 - Right. - You're an expert on 1088 00:51:42,685 --> 00:51:47,311 so many things in policy, and with regard to prison reform, 1089 00:51:47,345 --> 00:51:50,969 and then also sentencing reform and clemency. 1090 00:51:52,523 --> 00:51:53,834 METZ: A lot of times, 1091 00:51:53,869 --> 00:51:55,422 I wonder if I'm spinning my wheels, 1092 00:51:55,457 --> 00:51:57,804 if I'm making a difference. 1093 00:51:57,838 --> 00:52:01,808 Is it gonna matter what happened with me? 1094 00:52:01,842 --> 00:52:05,984 Is it gonna give somebody else a second chance? 1095 00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:14,855 I think it was, like, 1993. 1096 00:52:14,890 --> 00:52:19,308 Me and Glenn moved to Vegas, we got into a argument. 1097 00:52:19,343 --> 00:52:24,865 It got physical, and I waited till, um, he left. 1098 00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:27,178 But this time, I wrote a letter and say I was leaving. 1099 00:52:27,213 --> 00:52:30,664 I wasn't coming back. 1100 00:52:30,699 --> 00:52:33,978 But it was too late. 1101 00:52:34,012 --> 00:52:35,773 When the indictment came out, 1102 00:52:35,807 --> 00:52:41,606 I realized that, hey, I am wanted by the FBI. 1103 00:52:42,538 --> 00:52:44,195 I went to Mississippi. 1104 00:52:44,230 --> 00:52:46,680 I think it was, like, five months. 1105 00:52:46,715 --> 00:52:48,095 I would psych myself out, 1106 00:52:48,130 --> 00:52:50,305 like, you know, this was gonna be my new life. 1107 00:52:50,339 --> 00:52:53,722 But I knew I couldn't be on the run forever by myself. 1108 00:52:54,895 --> 00:52:56,380 I knew at some point, 1109 00:52:56,414 --> 00:52:59,245 I was gonna be separated from my kids for a long time. 1110 00:53:01,247 --> 00:53:03,387 So, I just started imagining my life, what it would've been 1111 00:53:03,421 --> 00:53:06,183 had it not come to this. 1112 00:53:06,217 --> 00:53:07,874 Why didn't I tell somebody what I was going through? 1113 00:53:07,908 --> 00:53:10,532 Maybe somebody could have helped me. 1114 00:53:10,566 --> 00:53:12,603 Why didn't I get out sooner? 1115 00:53:14,121 --> 00:53:16,020 It was breaking my heart-- I was, like, 1116 00:53:16,054 --> 00:53:18,229 "I just hope it hurry up and come to a end. 1117 00:53:18,264 --> 00:53:22,716 If they come and find me, just come on, find me." 1118 00:53:25,271 --> 00:53:26,996 REPORTER: Fugitive Danielle Metz, 1119 00:53:27,031 --> 00:53:29,378 wife of drug kingpin Glenn Metz, was arrested Saturday 1120 00:53:29,413 --> 00:53:32,243 at an apartment building in Jackson, Mississippi. 1121 00:53:32,278 --> 00:53:36,040 I'm sure he thought that I would testify against him. 1122 00:53:36,074 --> 00:53:39,181 I'm sure he thought that the way we left off, 1123 00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:41,804 that, "Oh, she's gonna, you know, since this happened, 1124 00:53:41,839 --> 00:53:43,254 she's gonna do that to me." 1125 00:53:43,289 --> 00:53:45,498 But I just couldn't bring myself to do it to him. 1126 00:53:45,532 --> 00:53:48,017 The prosecutor turned it around. 1127 00:53:48,052 --> 00:53:49,260 The story that they were painting 1128 00:53:49,295 --> 00:53:51,124 that I was his second-in-command. 1129 00:53:51,158 --> 00:53:53,816 I was a shot caller, as well. 1130 00:53:53,851 --> 00:53:55,232 That wasn't true. 1131 00:53:56,267 --> 00:53:59,822 I got found guilty on possession to distribute cocaine, 1132 00:53:59,857 --> 00:54:01,859 money laundering. 1133 00:54:02,894 --> 00:54:04,931 I was sentenced under a Kingpin Statute. 1134 00:54:04,965 --> 00:54:07,658 That made all the difference. 1135 00:54:07,692 --> 00:54:09,970 Over the years, I would just reach out 1136 00:54:10,005 --> 00:54:11,524 to different advocacy groups. 1137 00:54:11,558 --> 00:54:12,973 They couldn't do anything for me. 1138 00:54:13,008 --> 00:54:15,631 They told me that my case was too high-profile, 1139 00:54:15,666 --> 00:54:17,564 and that it was too complicated. 1140 00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:19,083 I was just spinning my wheels. 1141 00:54:19,117 --> 00:54:21,119 That I probably would never get out. 1142 00:54:21,154 --> 00:54:24,191 REPORTER: President Clinton has used his clemency powers rarely 1143 00:54:24,226 --> 00:54:26,021 when compared to his predecessors. 1144 00:54:26,055 --> 00:54:28,851 ATTORNEY: There was a, just a common thread 1145 00:54:28,886 --> 00:54:32,061 of non-controversial commutations. 1146 00:54:32,096 --> 00:54:34,823 When I met Danielle in August 2000, 1147 00:54:34,857 --> 00:54:37,204 I really believed that, at some point, 1148 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,965 that she was going to be freed. 1149 00:54:38,999 --> 00:54:40,760 You need to get political support 1150 00:54:40,794 --> 00:54:42,658 because it's a political decision. 1151 00:54:42,693 --> 00:54:45,834 And Danielle's prosecutor wasn't convinced 1152 00:54:45,868 --> 00:54:50,010 that Danielle Metz was a battered wife. 1153 00:54:50,045 --> 00:54:51,805 She was going to oppose Danielle getting clemency. 1154 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,671 There was the public story that Danielle had punched Glenn Metz 1155 00:54:55,706 --> 00:54:58,225 in the courtroom after the guilty verdict. 1156 00:54:58,260 --> 00:55:00,504 ♪ 1157 00:55:00,538 --> 00:55:02,437 MARILYN MITCHELL: She seemed, for some reason, 1158 00:55:02,471 --> 00:55:03,886 amazed by the verdict. 1159 00:55:03,921 --> 00:55:05,336 REPORTER: Until she started beating on him? 1160 00:55:05,371 --> 00:55:07,373 MITCHELL: That's correct, she seemed to see, 1161 00:55:07,407 --> 00:55:08,788 to beat on her husband 1162 00:55:08,822 --> 00:55:13,344 and start attacking him with her shackles. 1163 00:55:13,379 --> 00:55:16,313 Of course I was mad-- I just, you know, I... 1164 00:55:16,347 --> 00:55:17,555 I was shocked. 1165 00:55:17,590 --> 00:55:19,523 You know, I didn't know how I was gonna react. 1166 00:55:19,557 --> 00:55:22,284 And I'm sure he didn't know how I was gonna react, neither. 1167 00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:24,286 He didn't move or he didn't say, "Well, why are you hitting me?" 1168 00:55:24,321 --> 00:55:27,462 Or... I guess he was surprised, too. 1169 00:55:27,496 --> 00:55:29,602 You know, but... 1170 00:55:29,636 --> 00:55:31,017 People don't know. 1171 00:55:31,051 --> 00:55:33,640 You can't get mad with people for not knowing. 1172 00:55:33,675 --> 00:55:36,988 Sometime, we don't know how to get out of those situations. 1173 00:55:37,023 --> 00:55:42,166 You know? Because us, as women, we want to be loved. 1174 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,652 It might be in the wrong way, but we want to be loved. 1175 00:55:45,687 --> 00:55:47,654 You know? So... 1176 00:55:47,689 --> 00:55:49,622 They don't know. 1177 00:55:49,656 --> 00:55:51,555 They really don't know. 1178 00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:53,246 They have no clue. 1179 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,110 ATTORNEY: I told her that, "Look, I'm not going 1180 00:55:55,144 --> 00:55:57,008 "to forget about you, 1181 00:55:57,043 --> 00:56:00,943 "but commuting these drug cases wasn't going to be 1182 00:56:00,978 --> 00:56:04,153 "the direction the new incoming administration 1183 00:56:04,188 --> 00:56:07,018 would have towards clemency." 1184 00:56:07,053 --> 00:56:09,296 - I, George Walker Bush, do solemnly swear... 1185 00:56:09,331 --> 00:56:11,782 METZ: I was still there after so long. 1186 00:56:11,816 --> 00:56:13,024 Decades after decades... 1187 00:56:13,059 --> 00:56:14,819 [modem calling out] 1188 00:56:14,854 --> 00:56:16,959 ...calendar after calendar, year after year. 1189 00:56:16,994 --> 00:56:18,789 REPORTER: New counts going on. 1190 00:56:18,823 --> 00:56:20,549 SOLDIER: Yo. [guns firing] 1191 00:56:20,584 --> 00:56:22,137 REPORTER: The scene is nothing short of apocalyptic. 1192 00:56:22,171 --> 00:56:23,345 [audience applauding] 1193 00:56:23,380 --> 00:56:25,382 METZ: Missing every highlight 1194 00:56:25,416 --> 00:56:30,179 or every event or everything of your kids' life. 1195 00:56:30,214 --> 00:56:34,874 How am I gonna get out this place? 1196 00:56:34,908 --> 00:56:38,153 I've commuted the sentences of dozens of people sentenced 1197 00:56:38,187 --> 00:56:41,225 under old drug laws that we now recognize were unfair. 1198 00:56:41,259 --> 00:56:44,849 And yesterday, I announced that I'm commuting dozens more. 1199 00:56:44,884 --> 00:56:46,644 [audience applauding and cheering] 1200 00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:48,335 ATTORNEY: We sent a letter to Kenneth Polite, 1201 00:56:48,370 --> 00:56:50,372 who is appointed by President Obama 1202 00:56:50,407 --> 00:56:53,548 the U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Louisiana. 1203 00:56:53,582 --> 00:56:55,239 This is the potential key 1204 00:56:55,273 --> 00:56:56,689 that's gonna open that prison door. 1205 00:56:56,723 --> 00:57:01,487 He agreed to write a long letter on her behalf. 1206 00:57:01,521 --> 00:57:03,868 POLITE: "Ms. Metz has now spent 1207 00:57:03,903 --> 00:57:06,250 "almost half her life in prison, 1208 00:57:06,284 --> 00:57:08,148 "and we do not believe that she merits 1209 00:57:08,183 --> 00:57:11,600 "spending the rest of her life in prison. 1210 00:57:11,635 --> 00:57:14,948 "Nor do we believe that she poses any meaningful risk 1211 00:57:14,983 --> 00:57:17,226 "to public safety. 1212 00:57:17,261 --> 00:57:20,575 "Accordingly, my office supports President Obama 1213 00:57:20,609 --> 00:57:26,477 "granting Ms. Metz's application for a commutation of sentence. 1214 00:57:26,512 --> 00:57:29,894 "Respectfully submitted, Kenneth Polite, Jr., 1215 00:57:29,929 --> 00:57:33,691 United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Louisiana." 1216 00:57:33,726 --> 00:57:35,900 Everyone agreed that this was, 1217 00:57:35,935 --> 00:57:37,454 if not the most worthy, 1218 00:57:37,488 --> 00:57:39,801 then certainly a worthy candidate 1219 00:57:39,835 --> 00:57:42,320 for a commutation consideration. 1220 00:57:42,355 --> 00:57:44,564 Danielle was charged, essentially, 1221 00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:46,428 under a Kingpin Statute, 1222 00:57:46,463 --> 00:57:50,294 uh, in, at the time of her indictment and trial. 1223 00:57:50,328 --> 00:57:53,090 All of the evidence in the case, 1224 00:57:53,124 --> 00:57:56,231 uh, suggests that she certainly was not that, 1225 00:57:56,265 --> 00:57:59,683 that the charge itself was not an appropriate one. 1226 00:57:59,717 --> 00:58:04,273 She does not need to spend another day in prison. 1227 00:58:04,308 --> 00:58:06,172 METZ: It had started to play on my mind, 1228 00:58:06,206 --> 00:58:07,484 like, so many people was leaving, 1229 00:58:07,518 --> 00:58:10,901 and I was still there after so long. 1230 00:58:10,935 --> 00:58:13,490 Nobody told me anything, but in my spirit, 1231 00:58:13,524 --> 00:58:17,114 I just started packing all my things. 1232 00:58:17,148 --> 00:58:19,185 A friend of mine came to my room, and she's, like, 1233 00:58:19,219 --> 00:58:21,670 "What you doing?" I said, "I'm leaving here." 1234 00:58:21,705 --> 00:58:24,190 "Leaving? Where you going?" 1235 00:58:24,224 --> 00:58:26,054 I was, like, "I'm going home." 1236 00:58:26,088 --> 00:58:27,987 And I went to the gospel show that night, 1237 00:58:28,021 --> 00:58:30,058 and I was sitting in the back of the church. 1238 00:58:30,092 --> 00:58:31,611 And they were talking about a breakthrough. 1239 00:58:31,646 --> 00:58:33,613 And that was the sermon, like, the beginning of the end. 1240 00:58:33,648 --> 00:58:37,583 And this is when you're going to have a new life. 1241 00:58:37,617 --> 00:58:43,761 I was so drained and weary and just tired of, 1242 00:58:43,796 --> 00:58:46,764 tired of being there. 1243 00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:50,181 I just cried and cried and cried and cried all that night. 1244 00:58:50,216 --> 00:58:53,046 I cried like never before, and I prayed, and I cried, 1245 00:58:53,081 --> 00:58:54,945 and I prayed, and I cried. 1246 00:58:54,979 --> 00:58:57,257 And when I woke up that morning, 1247 00:58:57,292 --> 00:58:59,605 and I got up to start my day, 1248 00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:01,848 it felt like a weight had been lifted off of me, 1249 00:59:01,883 --> 00:59:04,402 like I was just free. 1250 00:59:04,437 --> 00:59:06,059 I think it was, like, a day or two days later, 1251 00:59:06,094 --> 00:59:07,578 I heard my lawyer voice on the phone. 1252 00:59:07,613 --> 00:59:10,132 He was, like, "Danielle, you're gonna be going home." 1253 00:59:10,167 --> 00:59:12,134 Oh, my God, and when he said that, 1254 00:59:12,169 --> 00:59:14,274 I just screamed like I never screamed before. 1255 00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:16,518 I guess all the pain that I've ever... 1256 00:59:16,553 --> 00:59:18,382 All the stuff that I was bottling up all them years, 1257 00:59:18,416 --> 00:59:20,004 that I couldn't cry when my mom came... 1258 00:59:20,039 --> 00:59:21,730 - Oh, man. [laughing] 1259 00:59:21,765 --> 00:59:24,112 METZ: I just dropped the phone. 1260 00:59:24,146 --> 00:59:25,976 [laughing] 1261 00:59:28,461 --> 00:59:29,911 Mama! 1262 00:59:29,945 --> 00:59:31,395 BARBARA BERNARD: Hey. 1263 00:59:31,429 --> 00:59:34,432 - Who said-- hey! - Hey! 1264 00:59:35,295 --> 00:59:37,539 [unintelligible] back! 1265 00:59:37,574 --> 00:59:41,785 - All right, let me see you. - [crying] 1266 00:59:41,819 --> 00:59:43,752 What are you crying for? 1267 00:59:43,787 --> 00:59:45,271 You're home now. 1268 00:59:45,305 --> 00:59:48,136 All the crying is over. 1269 00:59:48,170 --> 00:59:51,173 All the good times gonna start for me and you. 1270 00:59:51,208 --> 00:59:52,934 [crying] 1271 00:59:52,968 --> 00:59:54,314 Why are you crying? 1272 00:59:54,349 --> 00:59:56,731 Aren't you happy to see me? 1273 00:59:56,765 --> 01:00:02,115 [sobbing] 1274 01:00:10,054 --> 01:00:13,195 [phone calling out] 1275 01:00:13,230 --> 01:00:15,094 METZ: Hello? 1276 01:00:15,128 --> 01:00:17,027 IESHA TYLER [over phone]: Hey, Ms. Danielle. 1277 01:00:17,061 --> 01:00:18,960 Hey, how you doing? 1278 01:00:18,994 --> 01:00:20,962 I'm doing good. How are you? 1279 01:00:20,996 --> 01:00:22,549 I'm fine. 1280 01:00:22,584 --> 01:00:26,139 Um, I know your mama had told you a little bit about me, 1281 01:00:26,174 --> 01:00:28,072 and I had been talking to your brother, um, 1282 01:00:28,107 --> 01:00:30,005 just, you know, telling him, um, 1283 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,870 basically that I want to try to assist 1284 01:00:32,905 --> 01:00:34,700 with, uh, getting your mother home. 1285 01:00:34,734 --> 01:00:36,598 Absolutely. 1286 01:00:36,633 --> 01:00:38,186 - Your mom was a very integral part 1287 01:00:38,220 --> 01:00:40,671 of my life in prison, and I just recently 1288 01:00:40,706 --> 01:00:44,295 got another job in this organization centered 1289 01:00:44,330 --> 01:00:47,057 around ending incarceration of women and girls. 1290 01:00:47,091 --> 01:00:48,852 That is the mission. 1291 01:00:48,886 --> 01:00:53,201 And so the first person I thought about was your mother. 1292 01:00:53,235 --> 01:00:55,582 - Welcome! - Hey! 1293 01:00:55,617 --> 01:00:57,999 - Hi, Ms. Danielle, hey. - Oh, my God. 1294 01:00:58,033 --> 01:00:59,517 Team Pam, I'm loving it. 1295 01:00:59,552 --> 01:01:01,312 I, I love this. Thank you, Ms. Danielle. 1296 01:01:01,347 --> 01:01:02,624 Now, I hope it fits, 'cause... 1297 01:01:02,659 --> 01:01:05,834 TYLER: To know that God did it for you, 1298 01:01:05,869 --> 01:01:07,698 I'm definitely believing that He's going to do it 1299 01:01:07,733 --> 01:01:09,458 for my mother, as well, and that, like, 1300 01:01:09,493 --> 01:01:13,048 that makes me feel so excited and happy, 1301 01:01:13,083 --> 01:01:16,293 because we are making steps towards her being liberated. 1302 01:01:16,327 --> 01:01:18,433 It's a lot of work to be done. 1303 01:01:18,467 --> 01:01:21,712 And, you know, I don't, I can't give you any false hope, 1304 01:01:21,747 --> 01:01:24,508 but long as you know I'm doing something, and I'm keeping 1305 01:01:24,542 --> 01:01:26,959 - Miss Pam's name alive... - Yeah. 1306 01:01:26,993 --> 01:01:29,927 - ...that means that, hey, we're bringing awareness to her. 1307 01:01:29,962 --> 01:01:33,551 And just seeing you here, it's kind of taking me somewhere, 1308 01:01:33,586 --> 01:01:35,830 because I'm thinking about my daughter. 1309 01:01:35,864 --> 01:01:37,176 Yeah. 1310 01:01:37,210 --> 01:01:38,798 - So, if you don't mind me just asking you, 1311 01:01:38,833 --> 01:01:41,421 uh, how, how do it feel, because I, I don't... 1312 01:01:41,456 --> 01:01:42,802 I've asked Gleneisha sometimes, 1313 01:01:42,837 --> 01:01:46,116 but sometimes I can't bring myself to... 1314 01:01:46,150 --> 01:01:47,565 I'd rather pretend like, 1315 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,257 "I'm here now, that's all you need to worry about." 1316 01:01:49,291 --> 01:01:50,672 - Mm-hmm. - But I know it's something 1317 01:01:50,707 --> 01:01:53,675 that, it's not that easy for her, 1318 01:01:53,710 --> 01:01:55,228 - because I've been absent... - Yeah. 1319 01:01:55,263 --> 01:01:57,161 ...for all that time. 1320 01:01:57,196 --> 01:01:58,853 I'm gonna be honest with you. 1321 01:01:58,887 --> 01:02:01,441 Like, if my mom came home, I want to have that conversation, 1322 01:02:01,476 --> 01:02:04,859 because you have to take my feelings in consideration 1323 01:02:04,893 --> 01:02:08,517 as far as, like, how I feel, 1324 01:02:08,552 --> 01:02:12,142 and why I've been emotionally scarred 1325 01:02:12,176 --> 01:02:15,179 by, you know, my mother's absence. 1326 01:02:15,214 --> 01:02:17,319 And some conversations, sad as it may be, 1327 01:02:17,354 --> 01:02:20,598 some conversations can't be had between you and your daughter, 1328 01:02:20,633 --> 01:02:23,878 because of the sake of the, you know, relationship, 1329 01:02:23,912 --> 01:02:25,362 you know, and to be honest, 1330 01:02:25,396 --> 01:02:27,951 because from a daughter's perspective, 1331 01:02:27,985 --> 01:02:31,471 if I really, really told you how I felt, you know, with, 1332 01:02:31,506 --> 01:02:34,371 how I feel about my, my mother being absent, 1333 01:02:34,405 --> 01:02:36,235 it probably would hurt her real, real bad. 1334 01:02:36,269 --> 01:02:38,720 And, you know, it's, like, that's not my goal, you know? 1335 01:02:38,755 --> 01:02:40,308 - Right. - And by me expressing that 1336 01:02:40,342 --> 01:02:42,862 to you, what justice is it really going to do? 1337 01:02:42,897 --> 01:02:46,176 But I also want to be transparent and tell you, 1338 01:02:46,210 --> 01:02:47,764 "Hey, I felt this affecting me," 1339 01:02:47,798 --> 01:02:50,767 but, you know, I don't want to have to, you know, 1340 01:02:50,801 --> 01:02:52,596 go in too deep into the conversation, 1341 01:02:52,630 --> 01:02:56,703 because, like I said, some things is better left unsaid. 1342 01:03:05,574 --> 01:03:11,408 [people talking in background] 1343 01:03:16,482 --> 01:03:18,242 METZ: Today, I'm gonna be speaking, 1344 01:03:18,277 --> 01:03:20,417 standing in solidarity 1345 01:03:20,451 --> 01:03:23,489 with my friends who's campaigning, 1346 01:03:23,523 --> 01:03:26,872 advocating for people that we left behind. 1347 01:03:26,906 --> 01:03:28,287 So we are here 1348 01:03:28,321 --> 01:03:31,531 trying to get the new administration 1349 01:03:31,566 --> 01:03:32,809 to change their policies, 1350 01:03:32,843 --> 01:03:34,638 to recognize that we are human beings, 1351 01:03:34,672 --> 01:03:37,986 and at the end of the day, how much time is enough time? 1352 01:03:38,021 --> 01:03:39,401 Like, when is enough? 1353 01:03:39,436 --> 01:03:44,613 You know, prison is about rehabilitation. 1354 01:03:46,995 --> 01:03:48,686 WOMAN: ♪ Well, there ain't no harm 1355 01:03:48,721 --> 01:03:51,551 ♪ With your mind Come on! 1356 01:03:51,586 --> 01:03:55,245 ♪ Staying on freedom 1357 01:03:55,279 --> 01:03:58,558 ♪ You know, there ain't no harm ♪ 1358 01:03:58,593 --> 01:04:03,011 ♪ Oh, no, staying on freedom 1359 01:04:03,046 --> 01:04:04,426 ♪ I said there ain't no 1360 01:04:04,461 --> 01:04:05,772 [chanting]: Enough is enough! [song continues] 1361 01:04:05,807 --> 01:04:08,637 - Free her! - Enough is enough! 1362 01:04:08,672 --> 01:04:13,780 [chant and song continue] 1363 01:04:13,815 --> 01:04:15,610 ♪ Hallelu SINGERS: ♪ Hallelu 1364 01:04:15,644 --> 01:04:18,268 ALL: ♪ Hallelujah 1365 01:04:18,302 --> 01:04:19,786 ANDREA JAMES: Good afternoon! 1366 01:04:19,821 --> 01:04:21,823 Good afternoon! 1367 01:04:21,858 --> 01:04:24,550 JAMES: We're in Washington, D.C., people! 1368 01:04:24,584 --> 01:04:26,793 National Council for Incarcerated 1369 01:04:26,828 --> 01:04:29,624 and Formerly Incarcerated Women and Girls 1370 01:04:29,658 --> 01:04:33,386 is committed to abolishing incarceration 1371 01:04:33,421 --> 01:04:34,905 for women and girls. 1372 01:04:34,940 --> 01:04:37,943 When we started this battle for clemency 1373 01:04:37,977 --> 01:04:40,635 under President Obama's administration, 1374 01:04:40,669 --> 01:04:43,396 we fought like hell. 1375 01:04:43,431 --> 01:04:44,915 We were able to assist in bringing 1376 01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:49,644 50 of our sisters out of the depths of incarceration. 1377 01:04:49,678 --> 01:04:51,232 [audience cheers and applauds] 1378 01:04:51,266 --> 01:04:55,408 Many of those sisters were serving life with no parole. 1379 01:04:55,443 --> 01:04:59,240 I invite, to say a few words to you, 1380 01:04:59,274 --> 01:05:01,759 our own dear Danielle Metz. 1381 01:05:01,794 --> 01:05:03,209 WOMAN: That's right! JAMES: Danielle was 1382 01:05:03,244 --> 01:05:06,868 the last sister that we were able to push out 1383 01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:09,146 before that administration ended. 1384 01:05:09,181 --> 01:05:11,079 Danielle Metz. 1385 01:05:11,114 --> 01:05:13,461 [cheering and applauding] 1386 01:05:13,495 --> 01:05:16,326 METZ: Free her! CROWD: Free her! 1387 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:17,327 METZ: Free her! 1388 01:05:17,361 --> 01:05:18,673 CROWD: Free her! 1389 01:05:18,707 --> 01:05:20,571 METZ: Free her! CROWD: Free her! 1390 01:05:20,606 --> 01:05:21,918 METZ: We have a lot of work to do. 1391 01:05:21,952 --> 01:05:25,749 But this is a small feat for our president. 1392 01:05:25,783 --> 01:05:27,993 - WOMAN: Yes! - A very small feat, 1393 01:05:28,027 --> 01:05:30,616 because he don't have to go to the Supreme Court. 1394 01:05:30,650 --> 01:05:31,893 WOMAN: That's right! 1395 01:05:31,928 --> 01:05:33,515 - He don't have to go to Congress. 1396 01:05:33,550 --> 01:05:36,070 The power is in the presidency. 1397 01:05:36,104 --> 01:05:40,246 I know what it feels like to be separated from a family. 1398 01:05:40,281 --> 01:05:43,215 I know how it feels sitting in a fetus position, 1399 01:05:43,249 --> 01:05:45,355 begging and pleading with God, 1400 01:05:45,389 --> 01:05:47,667 "Give me one more chance." 1401 01:05:47,702 --> 01:05:50,532 I am home, but I am not free. 1402 01:05:50,567 --> 01:05:53,915 I am not free because my sisters are not free. 1403 01:05:53,950 --> 01:05:58,471 ALL [chanting]: Free her. Free her. Free her. Free her. 1404 01:05:58,506 --> 01:06:00,957 Free her. Free her. Free her. 1405 01:06:00,991 --> 01:06:04,305 [crowd continues chant] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 1406 01:06:04,339 --> 01:06:06,997 [crowd cheering and applauding] 1407 01:06:13,383 --> 01:06:18,353 ♪ 1408 01:06:31,711 --> 01:06:33,817 METZ: Good morning, Andrea. How you doing? 1409 01:06:33,851 --> 01:06:36,164 JAMES [on computer]: Morning, Dani. Good to see you. 1410 01:06:36,199 --> 01:06:40,306 - I was calling because I wanted to discuss Ms. Pam Tyler, 1411 01:06:40,341 --> 01:06:44,138 the lady that, uh, I told you that I did time with in Dublin. 1412 01:06:44,172 --> 01:06:45,863 Yes. 1413 01:06:45,898 --> 01:06:50,075 Unfortunately, President Biden has not acted upon our request 1414 01:06:50,109 --> 01:06:51,766 to release 100 women. 1415 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,045 In Ms. Pam's case, I think that we're really gonna have to 1416 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,461 engage with Catherine in our legal division 1417 01:06:57,496 --> 01:07:01,914 to make a determination as to what other inroads we can take, 1418 01:07:01,948 --> 01:07:05,124 legally, to try and reduce her sentence, 1419 01:07:05,159 --> 01:07:07,368 or to get compassionate release, or to do something 1420 01:07:07,402 --> 01:07:12,890 other than, uh, just hanging our hat on clemency. 1421 01:07:12,925 --> 01:07:15,065 Okay. Um, I know that, um, 1422 01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:17,585 Ms. Catherine was talking about the students, 1423 01:07:17,619 --> 01:07:19,242 so do you think I should, uh, 1424 01:07:19,276 --> 01:07:21,106 the students that are gonna be working on different cases, 1425 01:07:21,140 --> 01:07:24,212 uh, would that be okay with you if I submit that 1426 01:07:24,247 --> 01:07:27,733 to, you know, uh, Ms. Catherine, 1427 01:07:27,767 --> 01:07:29,183 - and start the process? - I think that that's... 1428 01:07:29,217 --> 01:07:31,392 I think that that's-- yes. 1429 01:07:31,426 --> 01:07:36,880 I think that's best next steps, um, in this, in this, uh, case. 1430 01:07:36,914 --> 01:07:39,710 That, and I think it would be a great case for the students. 1431 01:07:39,745 --> 01:07:42,472 - Our cases are very complicated. 1432 01:07:42,506 --> 01:07:45,923 You know, we don't ever want to go back and revisit that stuff. 1433 01:07:45,958 --> 01:07:48,443 The women on the inside, they don't know the first thing 1434 01:07:48,478 --> 01:07:50,135 to do to start getting help. 1435 01:07:50,169 --> 01:07:53,552 And a lot of time, they feel like they're forgotten about. 1436 01:07:54,449 --> 01:07:55,657 There's a heaviness 1437 01:07:55,692 --> 01:07:58,626 - that hangs over women's prisons. - Right. 1438 01:07:58,660 --> 01:08:00,731 You can very easily feel like 1439 01:08:00,766 --> 01:08:03,458 you're gonna get lost in that system, 1440 01:08:03,493 --> 01:08:06,461 even if you have an out date. 1441 01:08:08,153 --> 01:08:11,156 You know, our work, also, is to call these things into question. 1442 01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:14,124 METZ: When you're in prison and you can't educate yourself, 1443 01:08:14,159 --> 01:08:15,815 it's easy for you to go back to the things 1444 01:08:15,850 --> 01:08:16,851 that landed you there. 1445 01:08:16,885 --> 01:08:18,335 But when you're educated... 1446 01:08:18,370 --> 01:08:20,510 JAMES: Now, what kind of country takes a young mother 1447 01:08:20,544 --> 01:08:23,720 like you were, with two babies 1448 01:08:23,754 --> 01:08:27,931 at home, and come up with a sentence 1449 01:08:27,965 --> 01:08:29,726 that isn't just a life sentence, 1450 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,797 but three life sentences? 1451 01:08:31,831 --> 01:08:34,455 We have to really pause. 1452 01:08:34,489 --> 01:08:36,698 We have to really ask ourselves, 1453 01:08:36,733 --> 01:08:39,045 "What are we doing here 1454 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,048 "as the most incarcerated country on the planet? 1455 01:08:42,083 --> 01:08:45,880 What is the expected outcome?" 1456 01:08:45,914 --> 01:08:47,399 AYANNA PRESSLEY: When this country 1457 01:08:47,433 --> 01:08:49,677 incarcerates Black women, their entire family suffers, 1458 01:08:49,711 --> 01:08:52,645 resulting in long-term destabilization 1459 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,647 and intergenerational trauma. 1460 01:08:54,682 --> 01:08:58,410 And we must do everything we can to dismantle 1461 01:08:58,444 --> 01:09:00,377 this carceral system. 1462 01:09:00,412 --> 01:09:04,036 Free her. CROWD: Free her! 1463 01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:10,594 ♪ 1464 01:09:31,753 --> 01:09:34,515 You talk to your grandma today? 1465 01:09:34,549 --> 01:09:36,241 - Uh, two days ago. - Oh. 1466 01:09:36,275 --> 01:09:38,208 - Two days ago. - She back? She home? 1467 01:09:38,243 --> 01:09:40,417 - Yeah, she made it. She's-- she, uh, she made it. 1468 01:09:40,452 --> 01:09:41,936 I called her, she was asleep. 1469 01:09:41,970 --> 01:09:45,077 She was just getting up, probably an hour ago, yeah, 1470 01:09:45,111 --> 01:09:47,217 so she made it back, the house is back in order. 1471 01:09:47,252 --> 01:09:49,426 - I told you I'm gonna be off probation now. 1472 01:09:49,461 --> 01:09:51,394 Soon, huh? Walking down... 1473 01:09:51,428 --> 01:09:53,050 Remember what I was telling you about your five-year plan? 1474 01:09:53,085 --> 01:09:54,431 And you was, like, "Five years?" 1475 01:09:54,466 --> 01:09:56,019 I'm, like, "Mom, five years is, like, nothing." 1476 01:09:56,053 --> 01:09:57,676 - Ooh, I'm so happy. - Here we go. 1477 01:09:57,710 --> 01:09:59,678 - Five years. - I'm so happy, baby. 1478 01:09:59,712 --> 01:10:01,335 I'm gonna be getting on a plane... 1479 01:10:01,369 --> 01:10:02,577 Well, you already 1480 01:10:02,612 --> 01:10:03,613 - been on a plane. - ...just doing whatever 1481 01:10:03,647 --> 01:10:04,924 I want to do-- yeah. 1482 01:10:04,959 --> 01:10:06,236 Like 90 going west. 1483 01:10:06,271 --> 01:10:07,375 - All these different places I went to. 1484 01:10:07,410 --> 01:10:08,583 Exactly. 1485 01:10:08,618 --> 01:10:10,689 - All the way from Dublin to here 1486 01:10:10,723 --> 01:10:11,828 to there to there to there. 1487 01:10:11,862 --> 01:10:14,589 - I ain't done yet. - Exactly. 1488 01:10:14,624 --> 01:10:16,695 Yep, that's dope. I'm just really now happy 1489 01:10:16,729 --> 01:10:18,179 to be able to just really, like, see you, 1490 01:10:18,214 --> 01:10:21,009 you know, just come into your own, and just really, 1491 01:10:21,044 --> 01:10:22,563 like, seeing, like, how you is really, 1492 01:10:22,597 --> 01:10:23,909 like, well, humanity as a whole, 1493 01:10:23,943 --> 01:10:25,462 like, you just give 1494 01:10:25,497 --> 01:10:27,223 and do things for other people and be a certain way. 1495 01:10:27,257 --> 01:10:29,811 I think that was something for me to really see, 1496 01:10:29,846 --> 01:10:31,296 you know, like, just the action of it. 1497 01:10:31,330 --> 01:10:33,021 Not you saying it, which you never said it, 1498 01:10:33,056 --> 01:10:34,264 but you just really doing it. 1499 01:10:34,299 --> 01:10:35,507 - Mm-hmm. - Really, like, I think that 1500 01:10:35,541 --> 01:10:36,749 was something that, uh, 1501 01:10:36,784 --> 01:10:40,063 that I really needed to see. 1502 01:10:48,140 --> 01:10:51,143 [women talking indistinctly] 1503 01:10:59,358 --> 01:11:00,601 [exclaims] 1504 01:11:00,635 --> 01:11:02,534 [babbling] 1505 01:11:02,568 --> 01:11:04,536 Let me help you. 1506 01:11:04,570 --> 01:11:07,297 [Victory babbling] 1507 01:11:07,332 --> 01:11:08,505 Okay, now go. 1508 01:11:08,540 --> 01:11:11,646 - [murmuring]: Oh, let her do her pictures. 1509 01:11:11,681 --> 01:11:13,165 [Victory babbling] 1510 01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:16,962 HAYTER: My kids feel very close to my mom. 1511 01:11:19,275 --> 01:11:21,000 [Victory gasps] METZ: Wait, wait, wait. 1512 01:11:21,035 --> 01:11:22,623 HAYTER: Seeing them with my mom 1513 01:11:22,657 --> 01:11:23,934 is a little bittersweet. 1514 01:11:23,969 --> 01:11:25,695 - You love Granny? Give Granny a hug. 1515 01:11:25,729 --> 01:11:27,662 Come here, give me a hug. 1516 01:11:27,697 --> 01:11:29,077 Give me a hug. 1517 01:11:29,112 --> 01:11:30,769 Tell them who you love. 1518 01:11:30,803 --> 01:11:32,840 [Victory babbling] 1519 01:11:32,874 --> 01:11:36,015 HAYTER: I just started talking to a therapist 1520 01:11:36,050 --> 01:11:38,880 and trying to get counseling, 1521 01:11:38,915 --> 01:11:41,158 talking about our problems. 1522 01:11:41,193 --> 01:11:44,403 That's kind of, like, a taboo topic. 1523 01:11:44,438 --> 01:11:46,129 [kids talking in background] 1524 01:11:46,163 --> 01:11:49,926 We don't talk about our issues, we just try to push through 1525 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:53,826 and survive and maneuver around them. 1526 01:11:53,861 --> 01:11:57,865 ♪ Happy birthday to you 1527 01:11:57,899 --> 01:12:01,731 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1528 01:12:01,765 --> 01:12:06,494 ♪ Happy birthday, dear Granny 1529 01:12:06,529 --> 01:12:10,498 ♪ Happy birthday to you 1530 01:12:10,533 --> 01:12:14,053 HAYTER: Sometimes, looking at my kids 1531 01:12:14,088 --> 01:12:17,471 kind of reminds me of where my life could have been. 1532 01:12:17,505 --> 01:12:20,232 Yay! 1533 01:12:20,266 --> 01:12:21,854 HAYTER: Victory just turned four. 1534 01:12:21,889 --> 01:12:25,202 I was just turning four when my mom went in. 1535 01:12:25,237 --> 01:12:26,618 VICTORY: I want cake, I want cake. 1536 01:12:26,652 --> 01:12:28,205 I'm about to start slicing. 1537 01:12:29,793 --> 01:12:31,243 Who want cake? CHILD: Ooh! 1538 01:12:31,277 --> 01:12:33,383 HAYTER: Oh, that's too big for them. 1539 01:12:33,418 --> 01:12:35,109 WOMAN: I thought this was for them. 1540 01:12:35,143 --> 01:12:38,008 CHILD: No, Victory, you got one. 1541 01:12:38,043 --> 01:12:40,183 [kids talking in background] 1542 01:12:40,217 --> 01:12:44,256 HAYTER [voiceover]: It's bittersweet. 1543 01:12:44,290 --> 01:12:47,777 [kids talking in background] 1544 01:12:47,811 --> 01:12:53,783 ♪ 1545 01:12:56,337 --> 01:12:57,545 [phone ringing] 1546 01:12:57,580 --> 01:12:59,167 METZ: Hello? 1547 01:12:59,202 --> 01:13:00,997 TYLER [over phone]: Hey, Ms. Metz. 1548 01:13:01,031 --> 01:13:02,378 Hey, what's going on? 1549 01:13:02,412 --> 01:13:05,070 - Oh, my goodness, you will not believe. 1550 01:13:05,104 --> 01:13:07,521 They just said that my mother is going to be released 1551 01:13:07,555 --> 01:13:10,386 on the 29th, so I need to go down there, 1552 01:13:10,420 --> 01:13:14,148 get a flight, so I can pick her up from the airport. 1553 01:13:14,182 --> 01:13:16,599 - Oh, my God, I am so happy for you. 1554 01:13:16,633 --> 01:13:18,773 Ms. Pam ain't going to believe this one right here. 1555 01:13:18,808 --> 01:13:20,465 The 29th of July? 1556 01:13:20,499 --> 01:13:24,261 - The 29th of July, she'd be able to come home. 1557 01:13:24,296 --> 01:13:26,091 Having you on this journey to help us 1558 01:13:26,125 --> 01:13:28,507 and to see it finally come to pass, like... 1559 01:13:28,542 --> 01:13:29,750 Ooh! 1560 01:13:29,784 --> 01:13:31,268 I feel like I can breathe again. 1561 01:13:31,303 --> 01:13:32,925 - Team Pam. TYLER: Team Pam! 1562 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,514 [chuckling] 1563 01:13:35,549 --> 01:13:36,964 High five. 1564 01:13:36,998 --> 01:13:39,311 [cheers softly] 1565 01:13:39,345 --> 01:13:40,450 Thank you, Jesus! 1566 01:13:40,485 --> 01:13:43,039 Oh, my goodness, this is so surreal. 1567 01:13:43,073 --> 01:13:44,523 Oh, my goodness. 1568 01:13:44,558 --> 01:13:46,318 Mmm. 1569 01:13:48,872 --> 01:13:52,048 - It must be coming, I see those flags. 1570 01:13:52,082 --> 01:13:54,084 Acting like America is America. 1571 01:13:54,119 --> 01:13:56,535 Baby, please. 1572 01:13:56,570 --> 01:13:58,710 Oh, I hate this place. 1573 01:13:58,744 --> 01:14:00,574 I ain't lying. 1574 01:14:00,608 --> 01:14:05,130 That truck is the truck that watches the institution. 1575 01:14:05,164 --> 01:14:07,028 It rides all the way around all the time. 1576 01:14:07,063 --> 01:14:08,478 - Mmm. - It just keep riding around, 1577 01:14:08,513 --> 01:14:10,135 riding around. 1578 01:14:10,169 --> 01:14:11,792 I guess for security purposes, 1579 01:14:11,826 --> 01:14:13,276 - whatever that might be. - Right. 1580 01:14:13,310 --> 01:14:15,002 - And, like, who gonna jump over a fence? 1581 01:14:15,036 --> 01:14:17,453 - Are they Superman? - Right. 1582 01:14:19,178 --> 01:14:20,283 Did she say she was coming out? 1583 01:14:20,317 --> 01:14:21,664 - She in the back. - Oh. 1584 01:14:21,698 --> 01:14:23,044 - She said, [unintelligible] she just saw. 1585 01:14:23,079 --> 01:14:24,011 She said, "Yeah!" [car door closes] 1586 01:14:24,045 --> 01:14:25,495 She, she got the picture. 1587 01:14:25,530 --> 01:14:28,015 We was in the wrong spot. 1588 01:14:28,049 --> 01:14:33,745 ♪ 1589 01:14:33,779 --> 01:14:37,231 - [crying, whispering]: Oh, thank you, Jesus. 1590 01:14:40,752 --> 01:14:44,376 [sniffles] 1591 01:14:44,410 --> 01:14:47,621 You all right. 1592 01:14:47,655 --> 01:14:52,902 It's over now-- like my mama told me, it's over now. 1593 01:14:52,936 --> 01:14:57,527 [crying] 1594 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,877 [breathes deeply] 1595 01:15:10,954 --> 01:15:17,374 [both crying, murmuring] 1596 01:15:19,722 --> 01:15:21,689 TYLER: Oh, my goodness. 1597 01:15:21,724 --> 01:15:25,762 [crying] 1598 01:15:25,797 --> 01:15:27,488 I'm sorry. 1599 01:15:27,523 --> 01:15:30,215 METZ [crying]: Oh, Ms. Pam, I'm so happy to see you. 1600 01:15:30,249 --> 01:15:34,288 God is so good. 1601 01:15:34,322 --> 01:15:36,186 [kisses] 1602 01:15:36,221 --> 01:15:38,741 We love you, Ms. Pam. MS. PAM: I love you, too. 1603 01:15:38,775 --> 01:15:40,121 [all crying] 1604 01:15:40,156 --> 01:15:44,229 WOMAN [crying]: I missed you! 1605 01:15:44,263 --> 01:15:45,748 [whimpering]: Thank you! 1606 01:15:45,782 --> 01:15:47,473 METZ: You ready? 1607 01:15:47,508 --> 01:15:50,097 - MS. PAM: Yes. - Come on. 1608 01:15:50,131 --> 01:15:55,378 ♪ 1609 01:16:11,808 --> 01:16:13,603 [Hayter grunts, Victory giggles] 1610 01:16:13,638 --> 01:16:15,087 HAYTER [voiceover]: The dynamic 1611 01:16:15,122 --> 01:16:16,951 of a mother-and-daughter relationship, 1612 01:16:16,986 --> 01:16:21,093 it can be a little difficult at times. 1613 01:16:21,128 --> 01:16:24,338 Sometimes I'm not used to certain comments 1614 01:16:24,372 --> 01:16:28,066 or expectations. [Metz exclaiming] 1615 01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:30,586 METZ: See, I merge one step at a time. 1616 01:16:30,620 --> 01:16:31,656 It's one step at a time. 1617 01:16:31,690 --> 01:16:34,072 How m... [unintelligible] [baby babbles] 1618 01:16:36,177 --> 01:16:37,869 HAYTER: It's on both sides 1619 01:16:37,903 --> 01:16:39,353 that we both have expectations 1620 01:16:39,387 --> 01:16:42,598 of one another that probably aren't being met. 1621 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,462 METZ [voiceover]: If you have been out of somebody's life 1622 01:16:45,497 --> 01:16:49,156 23 years, that's how long it probably take 1623 01:16:49,190 --> 01:16:51,192 to get things back to normal. 1624 01:16:52,297 --> 01:16:54,817 Two people getting to know each other all over again 1625 01:16:54,851 --> 01:16:56,232 is just, uh... 1626 01:16:56,266 --> 01:16:58,096 It, it's a lot. 1627 01:16:58,130 --> 01:17:00,063 I know you've been through things, 1628 01:17:00,098 --> 01:17:01,858 things that I don't know about, 1629 01:17:01,893 --> 01:17:03,411 but I'm very proud of you. 1630 01:17:03,446 --> 01:17:05,310 I'm proud of the mother you are. 1631 01:17:05,344 --> 01:17:07,450 I'm proud of the daughter you are. 1632 01:17:07,484 --> 01:17:11,316 And I might not say it to you all the time, 1633 01:17:11,350 --> 01:17:16,355 but anybody that know me know how I feel about my kids. 1634 01:17:16,390 --> 01:17:18,599 You or Carl have never disappointed me. 1635 01:17:18,634 --> 01:17:23,604 No matter what, what I thought, or when we have our bad days, 1636 01:17:23,639 --> 01:17:27,573 I'm always proud of you, and I'm just thankful to God 1637 01:17:27,608 --> 01:17:31,025 that whatever you go through, if you need me, I'm here. 1638 01:17:31,854 --> 01:17:33,925 A mother is the foundation of the family, 1639 01:17:33,959 --> 01:17:37,722 but because of the choices I made, it was derailed. 1640 01:17:37,756 --> 01:17:41,518 And, and that's one thing that I really admire, 1641 01:17:41,553 --> 01:17:43,866 that your daughters won't have to go through that 1642 01:17:43,900 --> 01:17:46,731 because of the decisions and the way that you live your life. 1643 01:17:46,765 --> 01:17:49,975 I can't go back and change anything. 1644 01:17:50,010 --> 01:17:54,117 You know? All I can do is be the best person that I can be now. 1645 01:17:58,570 --> 01:18:01,642 ♪ 1646 01:18:11,790 --> 01:18:14,206 I know I could have done some things different. 1647 01:18:15,276 --> 01:18:17,693 And maybe the outcome would've been different. 1648 01:18:17,727 --> 01:18:20,247 [exclaiming softly] 1649 01:18:20,281 --> 01:18:24,596 METZ: We can't get back none of that time-- the time is gone. 1650 01:18:25,493 --> 01:18:28,773 You know, we could build from here-- I'm here. 1651 01:18:30,395 --> 01:18:34,537 And so, you know, I'm just thankful. 1652 01:18:38,265 --> 01:18:40,060 "Danielle, 1653 01:18:40,094 --> 01:18:43,304 "Congratulation on your graduation from Southern. 1654 01:18:43,339 --> 01:18:46,204 "I'm so proud of you. 1655 01:18:46,238 --> 01:18:47,895 "I'm confident 1656 01:18:47,930 --> 01:18:51,174 "that your example will have a positive impact on others 1657 01:18:51,209 --> 01:18:55,420 "who are looking for a second chance. 1658 01:18:55,454 --> 01:18:56,870 "Tell your children I say hello 1659 01:18:56,904 --> 01:19:00,011 "and know that I'm rooting for all of you. 1660 01:19:00,045 --> 01:19:03,428 Sincerely, Barack Obama." 1661 01:19:03,462 --> 01:19:09,641 I have a purpose in life, and now I'm evolving. 1662 01:19:10,469 --> 01:19:14,750 I'm sort of like that rose from concrete. 1663 01:19:14,784 --> 01:19:17,891 When you incarcerated, there's nothing but a whole lot 1664 01:19:17,925 --> 01:19:21,757 of steel, metal, and bricks. 1665 01:19:23,068 --> 01:19:25,381 The wall is just a wall. 1666 01:19:25,415 --> 01:19:27,452 It can be broken down. 1667 01:19:27,486 --> 01:19:30,420 When I'm fighting for the women that are still inside, 1668 01:19:30,455 --> 01:19:32,768 I'll tell them that. 1669 01:19:32,802 --> 01:19:34,217 It's just a wall. 1670 01:19:34,252 --> 01:19:36,599 It can be broken down. 1671 01:19:40,430 --> 01:19:41,811 WOMAN: Beautiful! 1672 01:19:41,846 --> 01:19:46,851 Simply gorgeous-- my mother would be ecstatic. 1673 01:19:46,885 --> 01:19:51,338 Ecstatically happy, as I'm sure she is. 1674 01:19:51,372 --> 01:19:53,927 She'll be saying, "Don't cry, Danielle." 1675 01:19:53,961 --> 01:19:54,962 She would be, like, 1676 01:19:54,997 --> 01:19:56,136 "What you crying for, Boo?" 1677 01:19:56,170 --> 01:19:58,069 "What you crying for, Boo?" 1678 01:19:58,103 --> 01:19:59,449 She didn't believe in tears. 1679 01:19:59,484 --> 01:20:02,728 She's, like, you just do what you got to do. 1680 01:20:02,763 --> 01:20:07,733 ♪ 1681 01:20:11,807 --> 01:20:16,397 WOMAN: Danielle Bernard Metz. 1682 01:20:16,432 --> 01:20:19,504 [audience cheering and applauding] 1683 01:20:19,538 --> 01:20:21,299 METZ: I can be anything I want to be. 1684 01:20:21,333 --> 01:20:23,197 I can do anything I want to do. 1685 01:20:23,232 --> 01:20:26,442 The sky is the limit for me. 1686 01:20:26,476 --> 01:20:27,892 And there's where I'm going. 1687 01:20:27,926 --> 01:20:30,446 I'm trying to break the ceiling now. 1688 01:20:31,619 --> 01:20:33,104 [laughing and cheering] 1689 01:20:33,138 --> 01:20:35,554 METZ: I'm on my life mission. 1690 01:20:38,454 --> 01:20:43,942 ♪ 1691 01:20:51,018 --> 01:20:52,433 ♪ Don't you worry 1692 01:20:52,468 --> 01:20:54,021 ♪ And don't you fret 1693 01:20:54,056 --> 01:20:55,609 ♪ Better, better 1694 01:20:55,643 --> 01:21:00,338 ♪ 'Cause I know God ain't never failed me yet ♪ 1695 01:21:00,372 --> 01:21:02,064 ♪ Better, better 1696 01:21:02,098 --> 01:21:04,480 ♪ He knows the plans 1697 01:21:04,514 --> 01:21:05,964 ♪ He has for you 1698 01:21:05,999 --> 01:21:07,621 ♪ Better, better 1699 01:21:07,655 --> 01:21:11,280 ♪ And I believe He'll do everything He said He would do ♪ 1700 01:21:11,314 --> 01:21:14,076 ♪ Better, better 1701 01:21:14,110 --> 01:21:17,424 ♪ Better, better, better, better, better, better ♪ 1702 01:21:17,458 --> 01:21:21,458 ♪ Better, better 119906

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