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DANIELLE METZ: This was
the last day I was with them
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in the free world.
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ANNOUNCER:
With each incarceration,
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a family serves a sentence.
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CARL BERNARD:
Before the separation,
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she was my best friend.
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When she came home,
as happy as I was,
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my soul was just exhausted.
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GLENEISHA HAYTER:
It's bittersweet.
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Looking at my kids
kind of reminds me of
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where my life could have been.
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ANNOUNCER:
"Commuted," a special edition
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of "Afropop"
and "America ReFramed,"
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directed by Nailah Jefferson
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and produced in collaboration
with Danielle Metz.
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♪
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Hey!
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♪
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Hey!
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♪
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Hey! Hey!
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Hey!
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METZ:
First entering prison,
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I was only 26 years old
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when a door closed on me.
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It was like a big freezer door,
just go, "Boom!"
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That really shattered my heart.
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♪
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But I kept telling myself that
freedom is a state of mind.
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[birds cawing,
child laughing]
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I think about
what my life was like
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and imagine
what it could have been.
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MS. PAT [on phone]: You don't
want to ever lose touch
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with the outside world,
sweetheart.
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[people exclaiming]
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METZ:
Well, what you going to do?
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CARL BERNARD: You believe stuff
so much, it really come true.
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MS. PAT [on phone]:
Oh, yes, Dani.
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You remember that, Dani?
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METZ:
We never knew anything.
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We never knew.
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CARL BERNARD: Same story
over and over and over and over.
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How are people
going to remember you?
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METZ: You got your children
to live for.
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HAYTER:
Mom, I'm not a kid anymore.
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CARL BERNARD: This is
supposed to be a forever thing.
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MS. PAT:
Lord have mercy, Jesus,
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because we had
some good times, though.
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HAYTER:
Mama...
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METZ: My name is
Danielle Bernard Metz.
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I was sentenced
to three life sentence
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plus 20 years as a first-time
nonviolent offender.
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My kids were three and seven
at the time.
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Year after year,
we prayed the same prayer,
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"Mama going to come home,"
and it's going to be like
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it used to be when I come home.
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♪
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This was 1993,
right before I got arrested.
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Me with my son and my daughter,
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the last day I was with them
in the free world.
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And I told them, I said,
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"Well, I'm not coming
with you guys."
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And you can see,
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she was pouting
and he was pouting.
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And when I told them,
"Get in the car,"
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both of them were screaming.
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"I want my mama!
I want Mama!"
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They were yelling so loud
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that I couldn't even look back.
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Because if I would've
looked back,
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I would've said,
"No, just let them stay."
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♪
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The marshals, they came.
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When they were driving me
to Dublin,
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it was just a dirt road,
it was just
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nothing, it was just a desert.
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All I saw was emptiness.
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I was only 26 years old.
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It just didn't seem real.
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I was really frightened.
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I didn't know
if it was strong enough,
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that if our love
was going to keep us together,
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as a family.
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MICHAEL LEWIS:
Hello, my name is Michael Lewis.
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I'm sitting
here with Adrian Bernard,
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the sister of Danielle Metz,
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her daughter
Gleneisha Metz-Hayter,
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and her son Carl Bernard.
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Danielle Metz was
sentenced to three lifes,
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plus 20 years.
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She's a first-time
nonviolent offender.
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The kind of time she was given
is the time
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that is reserved for
serial killers and terrorists.
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CARL BERNARD:
If I wake up in the morning,
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that's one of the first things
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that hit my mind since then.
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I'm 26 years old, and I've...
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It's been, it's been
basically the same.
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It's been rough.
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You know, but, you know,
I prayed a lot.
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You know, I keep faith,
things that basically
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my mother told me to do.
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[voice trembling]:
It was hard.
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It was, it was hard growing up.
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As a young woman,
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not having your mother around...
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Not having anyone
to talk to you about
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your day-to-day problems.
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You know, you have to
wait for the phone call.
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[sniffles]: Which is usually
only 15 minutes, so,
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you know, you have to squeeze
everything in, and then,
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it's only by the grace of God
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that I'm here today
to tell this story, and,
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and I just hope that someone
out there is listening,
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that someone out there
will help.
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She's still not home,
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but I know and I pray to my God
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that I know justice
will be served on her behalf.
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REPORTER: The growth of
the women's prison population
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has nearly tripled since 1990,
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and accounts for nearly...
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REPORTER:
...chief law enforcement officer
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said today it is time
to scale back
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tough prison terms
for low-level drug crimes...
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BARACK OBAMA:
I've commuted the sentences
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of dozens of people
sentenced under
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old drug laws that we now
recognize were unfair,
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and yesterday
I announced that...
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REPORTER:
President Obama has reduced
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the prison sentences of 46...
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REPORTER: 111...
REPORTER: 231 people,
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the most ever in one day.
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[shrieking, laughing]
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Oh, my God!
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[both laughing]
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[car horn honks,
traffic humming]
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METZ:
I made it to you, Mom.
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You made it to me.
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I know you're happy, girl.
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If you never make it around
no more, you're here now.
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METZ: Some days,
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I would just
call my mom out of the blue
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and just tell her,
"You know, I'm coming home."
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And even if
she didn't believe it,
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she'd say, "Oh, I know, Boo.
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I know you're coming."
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[birds chirping]
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It just felt like a dream
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that I didn't
want to wake up from.
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♪
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When I first came through
the door,
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it felt different.
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My mom, she wasn't
cooking anymore.
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[sniffs]
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The doctor told me that they
had saw something on her cervix,
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and she saw that I was getting
ready to cry, and she said,
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"Mm-mm-- God's will
got to be done, Boo."
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I said, "But I ain't going to
be able to make it without you."
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She said, "Oh, don't say that.
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"Oh, you're going to make it.
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"Just keep getting up,
going to work.
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You're going to be all right."
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I always thought she was
going to always be there,
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no matter what.
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My mom passed May the 21st.
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As I was lying there,
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I just was thinking about
the ceiling fan now.
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I remember, the whole time
I was gone,
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I've never seen
a working ceiling fan.
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I've saw one in a book.
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So, whenever...
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Since I've been home,
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and whenever I wake up
here in this house,
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I always...
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You know, that's
the first thing I see
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when I open my eyes,
and that lets me know
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that, you know, I'm really here,
because for a minute,
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I used to think that,
"Am I still there?"
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But I know I didn't see
a ceiling fan,
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so I always, if I...
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You know, if I stay by
my mom house
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and I wake up here,
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I always make sure
that fan is on
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when I get up in the morning.
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That lets me know
that, that I'm actually here.
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It really just makes me
think about time,
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how time just, you know,
don't stop for no one.
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It just keeps on going
and going and going.
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[door closes]
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[birds chirping]
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♪
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[car engine humming,
switch clicks]
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MAN [on recording]: We're having
a conversation in the newsroom,
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and I don't know
if you're aware,
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President Obama granted clemency
to Danielle Metz
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after she served 23 years
in prison.
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[birds tweeting]
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METZ: Well, I had a good
upbringing in New Orleans.
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I was the youngest of nine.
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[child laughing]
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My mom, she worked
at Leidenheimer Baking
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for 40 years.
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My dad, he was
a cement finisher.
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I was raised Uptown,
on General Taylor.
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A good neighborhood.
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Watching my mama work hard,
as a young girl,
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I guess I just start
fantasizing.
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You know, wanting something,
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I guess, more than what I had.
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MAN [on recording]:
Now, let's rewind a bit here.
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In the early '90s, Danielle
Metz married Glenn Metz,
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who was dubbed by some
as a drug kingpin.
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REPORTER: The government
contends Glenn Metz
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and his wife, Danielle Metz,
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were the leaders
of the so-called Metz Gang.
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In sentencing them
to life behind bars,
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Judge McNamara said,
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"Narcotics crime is destroying
our city and nation."
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METZ:
These are some of the things
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that was important to me
while I was in there, like...
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In this paper right here,
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I don't know if you guys know,
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but they had vacated
one of my sentences,
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and the judge said that
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it didn't really matter,
because I still had...
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I still would have two life
sentences plus the 20 years.
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So I was kind of puzzled.
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Like, how could it weigh so much
when you're getting sentenced,
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and then when you deduct it,
it don't account for nothing?
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But I guess when
you don't know the law,
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that's what happen.
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This one, this is my favorite,
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because I always connect with us
being together no matter what.
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With or without a husband,
a dad,
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it was always going to be
us three.
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That's how I always
vision us, envision us together
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all the time,
with us as a family.
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This is him.
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I named my son after his dad.
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His name is Carl.
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I think his first Easter.
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And, um...
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And then, this was a picture--
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it was my son's birthday,
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and I asked my mom
to give him a party,
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and I bought him
a little motorcycle bike,
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and he loved it,
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but he was still happy then.
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00:12:47,939 --> 00:12:50,183
You would kind of
see over a period of time
256
00:12:50,217 --> 00:12:51,563
how his facial expression
changed from
257
00:12:51,598 --> 00:12:53,634
happiness, happiness, happiness
258
00:12:53,669 --> 00:12:55,498
to, like, not too happy,
not too happy,
259
00:12:55,533 --> 00:12:57,431
because I guess the reality
of the situation...
260
00:12:57,466 --> 00:12:59,330
You know,
he was having birthdays,
261
00:12:59,364 --> 00:13:01,884
more and more birthdays
without me.
262
00:13:20,144 --> 00:13:26,564
♪
263
00:13:26,598 --> 00:13:29,498
CARL BERNARD:
I had so many memories
264
00:13:29,532 --> 00:13:32,535
from the perfect childhood,
265
00:13:32,570 --> 00:13:34,537
spending a lot of time
with my mom.
266
00:13:34,572 --> 00:13:36,194
I was never away from my mom,
267
00:13:36,229 --> 00:13:39,404
like, from the time I wake up
to the time I go to sleep,
268
00:13:39,439 --> 00:13:43,270
before the separation.
269
00:13:43,305 --> 00:13:46,549
She was my best friend.
270
00:13:48,103 --> 00:13:51,900
♪
271
00:13:55,041 --> 00:13:56,870
METZ:
I, I drew this a long time ago.
272
00:13:56,905 --> 00:14:00,011
Here's my son, that's
my daughter, me, and my mom.
273
00:14:00,046 --> 00:14:04,084
You see in freedom, one happy
family, and it's going home,
274
00:14:04,119 --> 00:14:06,984
and it say, "With God,
all things are possible."
275
00:14:11,436 --> 00:14:14,198
My son,
he wasn't at the airport.
276
00:14:14,232 --> 00:14:16,717
ADRIAN BERNARD: Everybody say,
"Welcome home, Dani!"
277
00:14:16,752 --> 00:14:20,031
METZ: And when I didn't see him,
I was heartbroken.
278
00:14:20,066 --> 00:14:23,379
[people clapping in video]
279
00:14:23,414 --> 00:14:25,002
CHILD: Wait,
is this your birthday?
280
00:14:25,036 --> 00:14:28,626
- No, this is just my homecome,
homecoming celebration.
281
00:14:28,660 --> 00:14:30,145
Y'all know I've been
in prison for 23 years.
282
00:14:30,179 --> 00:14:32,319
- Y'all didn't know that?
- I didn't even know that.
283
00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,770
METZ: He had told me
284
00:14:34,804 --> 00:14:37,566
he was teaching his self
not to feel,
285
00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:42,226
because I was never coming home.
286
00:14:42,260 --> 00:14:43,917
[videocall ringing]
287
00:14:43,952 --> 00:14:47,127
Hi! Hey, Victory!
288
00:14:47,162 --> 00:14:49,198
HAYTER [on phone]: Come
here, come here, come here.
289
00:14:49,233 --> 00:14:50,544
Granny's on the phone.
290
00:14:50,579 --> 00:14:53,099
[Victory cooing]
METZ: Hey!
291
00:14:53,133 --> 00:14:56,447
Oh, look at the baby, hi!
292
00:14:56,481 --> 00:14:58,483
Hi there, pumpkin.
293
00:14:58,518 --> 00:15:01,590
Hi there, pumpkin.
294
00:15:03,488 --> 00:15:04,834
[Hayter laughs on phone]
295
00:15:05,835 --> 00:15:07,354
HAYTER [on phone]: Come here,
come here, come here.
296
00:15:07,389 --> 00:15:08,804
Hi.
297
00:15:08,838 --> 00:15:10,495
HAYTER [voiceover]:
I don't really remember
298
00:15:10,530 --> 00:15:13,050
too much of my mom being
in the picture
299
00:15:13,084 --> 00:15:14,983
before prison.
300
00:15:15,017 --> 00:15:18,365
[water rushing]
301
00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,126
When my mom went away,
302
00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,957
I moved with my aunt
and my four cousins.
303
00:15:23,992 --> 00:15:26,063
We went to L.A.,
304
00:15:26,097 --> 00:15:29,031
and then we moved to Sacramento.
305
00:15:29,066 --> 00:15:32,724
And then from Sacramento,
we moved to Stockton,
306
00:15:32,759 --> 00:15:37,419
and that's where I've spent
most of my adult life till now.
307
00:15:40,387 --> 00:15:43,804
Right now, I'm 29,
and I'll be 30 soon.
308
00:15:43,839 --> 00:15:47,636
I was about three years old
when my mom went to prison.
309
00:15:49,949 --> 00:15:52,054
[toy clacks]
310
00:15:52,986 --> 00:15:56,127
I never really imagined
what life would be like
311
00:15:56,162 --> 00:15:58,026
with both of my parents home.
312
00:15:58,060 --> 00:15:59,441
[babbles]
313
00:15:59,475 --> 00:16:00,787
HAYTER: I never
really remembered
314
00:16:00,821 --> 00:16:04,894
anything of them being home.
315
00:16:04,929 --> 00:16:08,795
In the Bible, it has,
there's a scripture that said,
316
00:16:08,829 --> 00:16:11,349
"I will never leave you
nor forsake you."
317
00:16:11,384 --> 00:16:16,630
That, that's a really prominent
scripture in my life.
318
00:16:16,665 --> 00:16:21,773
So when friends or family
or anybody
319
00:16:21,808 --> 00:16:25,536
will leave,
I know He will be there.
320
00:16:28,435 --> 00:16:29,747
[cooing]
321
00:16:29,781 --> 00:16:31,197
HAYTER: My daughter, Victory,
322
00:16:31,231 --> 00:16:34,096
I felt like that was
a fitting name for her.
323
00:16:34,131 --> 00:16:37,997
God gave us victory
over every situation.
324
00:16:42,242 --> 00:16:46,315
Now that my mom's home,
we do get to FaceTime
325
00:16:46,350 --> 00:16:48,662
and talk often,
326
00:16:48,697 --> 00:16:52,045
and we are trying to get
a better relationship.
327
00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,841
I wish she would come
and stay up this way,
328
00:16:54,875 --> 00:16:57,568
because you can't really
get to know somebody
329
00:16:57,602 --> 00:16:59,018
when they're far away.
330
00:16:59,052 --> 00:17:02,021
You can talk, but
we've been talking for years.
331
00:17:02,055 --> 00:17:04,437
'Cause we don't really
know each other
332
00:17:04,471 --> 00:17:07,026
as well as we think we do.
333
00:17:18,347 --> 00:17:21,109
METZ: The dream I had of us
being together,
334
00:17:21,143 --> 00:17:23,525
the thing that I envisioned,
it wasn't my reality
335
00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:27,632
once I came back to New Orleans.
336
00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:34,915
I'm just trying to figure
this whole freedom thing out.
337
00:17:37,435 --> 00:17:39,161
What's my purpose?
338
00:17:44,373 --> 00:17:47,031
I would always just
tell my mother about my plans.
339
00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:49,378
"I'm going to be a mentor
and I'm going to help
340
00:17:49,413 --> 00:17:51,208
"all these girls
that I leave behind
341
00:17:51,242 --> 00:17:54,142
that still here."
342
00:17:55,212 --> 00:17:59,492
And she would just say,
"Mm-hmm, Boo."
343
00:17:59,526 --> 00:18:04,083
♪
344
00:18:10,951 --> 00:18:12,781
Good morning.
WOMAN: Good morning.
345
00:18:12,815 --> 00:18:15,059
[security wand beeps]
346
00:18:16,612 --> 00:18:20,996
[wand beeping]
347
00:18:31,662 --> 00:18:32,973
METZ:
Good morning, good morning.
348
00:18:33,008 --> 00:18:34,596
How y'all doing?
GIRLS: Good morning.
349
00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:37,185
METZ: So, what y'all did
for the week?
350
00:18:37,219 --> 00:18:38,807
Tell me what happened
for the week.
351
00:18:38,841 --> 00:18:41,050
GIRL:
They picked up my charges.
352
00:18:42,707 --> 00:18:45,054
[door buzzes]
353
00:18:45,538 --> 00:18:48,472
So...
354
00:18:48,506 --> 00:18:49,576
[door opening]
355
00:18:49,611 --> 00:18:51,095
Are you?
356
00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:52,545
- So how do you feel
about that?
357
00:18:52,579 --> 00:18:55,686
What I tell you?
358
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,066
[mumbling]
359
00:18:57,101 --> 00:18:58,516
Huh? I'm sorry.
360
00:18:59,690 --> 00:19:01,036
- No, I'm talking
about as far as,
361
00:19:01,070 --> 00:19:02,555
start planning now
for when you get out,
362
00:19:02,589 --> 00:19:03,832
because you're going to get out.
363
00:19:03,866 --> 00:19:05,040
You're not going to be
sitting in there
364
00:19:05,074 --> 00:19:06,593
like I was sitting in there,
365
00:19:06,628 --> 00:19:08,733
and not knowing what happen,
what's going on.
366
00:19:09,769 --> 00:19:11,219
And how are you?
367
00:19:11,253 --> 00:19:13,428
What are your plans
for the future?
368
00:19:13,462 --> 00:19:15,568
GIRL 2:
369
00:19:15,602 --> 00:19:17,294
- You still
with your boyfriend?
370
00:19:18,605 --> 00:19:20,020
How old is he?
371
00:19:20,814 --> 00:19:22,816
And how old are you?
372
00:19:23,610 --> 00:19:25,440
15, I thought so.
373
00:19:25,474 --> 00:19:27,787
I know at the age of 15, 16,
374
00:19:27,821 --> 00:19:29,306
I wasn't in a life of crime,
375
00:19:29,340 --> 00:19:31,377
but when I met somebody,
and that became my lifestyle.
376
00:19:31,411 --> 00:19:33,758
If you change your thinking,
you'll change your behavior.
377
00:19:33,793 --> 00:19:35,415
Eliminate him out your life.
378
00:19:35,450 --> 00:19:37,106
Oh, he going to rehab, too?
379
00:19:38,142 --> 00:19:39,730
- Well, we ain't worried
about him.
380
00:19:39,764 --> 00:19:42,111
Like, we kind of
concentrating...
381
00:19:42,146 --> 00:19:44,459
- Okay, so you gotta worry
about yourself.
382
00:19:44,493 --> 00:19:46,081
Yeah, I know.
383
00:19:46,115 --> 00:19:47,841
[girls talking indistinctly]
384
00:19:47,876 --> 00:19:51,983
METZ: When I met my husband,
I was 18 and he was 32.
385
00:19:52,812 --> 00:19:54,400
My mom was, like,
386
00:19:54,434 --> 00:19:58,058
"He's going to take your youth
away from you."
387
00:19:58,093 --> 00:20:01,200
I didn't understand
what she meant.
388
00:20:02,511 --> 00:20:08,310
♪
389
00:20:08,345 --> 00:20:11,589
[people laughing, talking
in background]
390
00:20:11,624 --> 00:20:15,041
[drums pounding]
391
00:20:17,664 --> 00:20:20,771
♪
392
00:20:26,294 --> 00:20:32,645
♪
393
00:20:40,825 --> 00:20:46,279
♪
394
00:20:46,314 --> 00:20:50,145
[people talking, calling
in background]
395
00:20:50,179 --> 00:20:51,871
- What's up, champ?
How you doing?
396
00:20:51,905 --> 00:20:54,701
All right, Sam!
You made it, Sam!
397
00:20:54,736 --> 00:20:57,463
Stop! You gonna stop!
398
00:20:57,497 --> 00:20:58,809
Yeah, he nice.
399
00:20:58,843 --> 00:21:01,639
[brass band playing]
400
00:21:01,674 --> 00:21:05,885
[crowd cheering, whistling]
401
00:21:05,919 --> 00:21:11,408
[music continues]
402
00:21:11,442 --> 00:21:13,789
WOMAN: I like that!
403
00:21:13,824 --> 00:21:15,066
You're free!
404
00:21:15,101 --> 00:21:16,516
WOMAN 2: Come on, Boo!
405
00:21:16,551 --> 00:21:18,277
Come on, Boo, sing!
406
00:21:18,311 --> 00:21:20,002
Come on, Boo-Boo!
407
00:21:21,763 --> 00:21:22,971
She's free!
408
00:21:23,005 --> 00:21:26,802
She's free! She's free!
409
00:21:26,837 --> 00:21:30,496
[music continues]
410
00:21:30,530 --> 00:21:32,739
[laughing]
411
00:21:32,774 --> 00:21:34,327
METZ:
I had a love-hate relationship
412
00:21:34,362 --> 00:21:37,330
with New Orleans
because of what happened to me.
413
00:21:37,365 --> 00:21:41,783
You know, I was really mad
for a long time.
414
00:21:41,817 --> 00:21:46,235
My son's father, he died when
my son was six months old.
415
00:21:46,270 --> 00:21:50,930
He was murdered
by the New Orleans police.
416
00:21:50,964 --> 00:21:53,242
I was really, like, devastated.
417
00:21:53,277 --> 00:21:56,867
Now I have a baby,
I was 18, and it's, like
418
00:21:56,901 --> 00:21:58,489
how am I going to take care
of this child?
419
00:21:58,524 --> 00:22:01,354
[crowd whistling, cheering]
420
00:22:01,389 --> 00:22:03,839
METZ: I met my husband
through a friend.
421
00:22:03,874 --> 00:22:08,465
She was, like, "Girl, I saw
this dude at the second line.
422
00:22:08,499 --> 00:22:11,226
They was all there, had on these
mink coats and Rolex watches."
423
00:22:11,260 --> 00:22:12,814
And I was, like, "Who was that?"
424
00:22:12,848 --> 00:22:15,057
She said, "Girl,
425
00:22:15,092 --> 00:22:17,232
they said it was Glenn."
426
00:22:17,266 --> 00:22:19,303
He was almost, like, invisible.
427
00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:21,201
You heard about him,
but you never got to see him.
428
00:22:21,236 --> 00:22:23,238
You could never say,
"That's him over there."
429
00:22:23,272 --> 00:22:25,413
♪
430
00:22:25,447 --> 00:22:29,520
He asked me where I had been
all his life.
431
00:22:29,555 --> 00:22:31,073
I was so immature then.
432
00:22:31,108 --> 00:22:34,836
I was 18 years old, he was 32.
433
00:22:34,870 --> 00:22:36,562
I started feeling
kind of special,
434
00:22:36,596 --> 00:22:41,118
like I was the one
that he choose to talk to.
435
00:22:42,533 --> 00:22:45,467
And he was, like, "This, this is
how your life going to be."
436
00:22:45,502 --> 00:22:46,813
And I said, "What you mean?"
437
00:22:46,848 --> 00:22:48,159
He said, "Plentiful.
438
00:22:48,194 --> 00:22:50,127
You're not going
to ever want for nothing."
439
00:22:51,818 --> 00:22:53,372
That's all I ever wanted,
440
00:22:53,406 --> 00:22:56,513
was to be able
to take care of my son.
441
00:22:56,547 --> 00:23:00,758
♪
442
00:23:07,109 --> 00:23:08,973
REPORTER: Tonight,
ringleader Glenn Metz
443
00:23:09,008 --> 00:23:11,079
and 13 other key players
in the organization
444
00:23:11,113 --> 00:23:12,805
have been indicted
by the federal grand jury
445
00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:16,395
on 54 separate counts.
446
00:23:16,429 --> 00:23:22,228
♪
447
00:23:28,130 --> 00:23:30,098
TANYA: I met Danielle
448
00:23:30,132 --> 00:23:34,585
in beauty school Uptown in 1985.
449
00:23:34,620 --> 00:23:36,829
And it's so funny how Uptown is.
450
00:23:36,863 --> 00:23:38,244
Everyone knew everybody.
451
00:23:38,278 --> 00:23:40,453
Like, all our parents
kind of knew each other.
452
00:23:40,488 --> 00:23:42,904
I think most
of my fondest memories
453
00:23:42,938 --> 00:23:46,148
was with you, kind of, like,
growing up from that small.
454
00:23:46,183 --> 00:23:48,254
Like, we always got into it
with somebody.
455
00:23:48,288 --> 00:23:50,221
[laughing]
456
00:23:50,256 --> 00:23:53,984
SHELITA RISIN:
Danielle was very boy-crazy.
457
00:23:54,018 --> 00:23:55,572
A boy could look at her,
and she'd,
458
00:23:55,606 --> 00:23:58,437
look, Tanya, "How I look?
'Cause he like me."
459
00:23:58,471 --> 00:23:59,852
[laughing]
460
00:23:59,886 --> 00:24:01,474
"Is he looking?"
461
00:24:01,509 --> 00:24:02,544
[laughing]
462
00:24:02,579 --> 00:24:04,443
- "That boy likes me."
- That's right.
463
00:24:04,477 --> 00:24:07,515
[laughs]
464
00:24:07,549 --> 00:24:09,206
RISIN: When Carl was born,
465
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,553
she said, "He ugly?
How he look?"
466
00:24:11,588 --> 00:24:13,279
- [laughing]: I said...
- Oh, yeah,
467
00:24:13,313 --> 00:24:14,591
- you know why she said that?
- You remember that?
468
00:24:14,625 --> 00:24:15,626
'Cause she said,
469
00:24:15,661 --> 00:24:17,145
"My baby wasn't
470
00:24:17,179 --> 00:24:18,871
- the most attractive baby."
- She wasn't.
471
00:24:18,905 --> 00:24:20,942
- I'll never forget that,
either.
472
00:24:20,976 --> 00:24:22,702
- She wasn't.
[laughing]
473
00:24:24,014 --> 00:24:26,672
And so then, after that, you
decided to go to beauty school?
474
00:24:26,706 --> 00:24:29,433
- Was it after you had Carl?
- After I had Carl,
475
00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:31,090
'cause now I got
to do something, I got...
476
00:24:31,124 --> 00:24:32,678
I knew I had my son--
I have to do something.
477
00:24:32,712 --> 00:24:34,680
Like, okay, if I go to school,
478
00:24:34,714 --> 00:24:36,405
then I won't have to worry
about all that.
479
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,407
Now, I don't know
if y'all remember,
480
00:24:38,442 --> 00:24:41,687
- but six months later...
- Six months later,
481
00:24:41,721 --> 00:24:46,623
Carl's father was murdered
by the policeman.
482
00:24:46,657 --> 00:24:48,279
It was hard-- we all were young.
483
00:24:48,314 --> 00:24:51,559
And I think--
my personal opinion--
484
00:24:51,593 --> 00:24:57,288
through that,
her vulnerability led her
485
00:24:57,323 --> 00:24:59,532
more towards her husband,
Glenn Metz,
486
00:24:59,567 --> 00:25:02,466
and then there goes
the story of Danielle
487
00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:07,022
and her journey that led her
to that sentence.
488
00:25:07,057 --> 00:25:11,268
I just knew that was going to
be a road to where it ended up.
489
00:25:12,476 --> 00:25:14,547
I, um...
490
00:25:14,582 --> 00:25:18,620
I, I never disapproved
of their relationship.
491
00:25:18,655 --> 00:25:21,830
He, you know, like,
he would fight her,
492
00:25:21,865 --> 00:25:23,970
you know, but, I mean...
493
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:28,561
I didn't know it was serious
until it was too late.
494
00:25:28,596 --> 00:25:32,013
Like, when she was going to
court, it was a joke.
495
00:25:32,047 --> 00:25:34,084
I thought that
496
00:25:34,118 --> 00:25:36,224
we was all walk out
the courthouse together.
497
00:25:36,258 --> 00:25:38,398
I never, in a million years,
would have dreamed
498
00:25:38,433 --> 00:25:42,817
that she would've got
a life sentence.
499
00:25:43,645 --> 00:25:47,580
Three life sentences
and 20 years.
500
00:25:47,615 --> 00:25:49,099
Sometimes I feel bad,
501
00:25:49,133 --> 00:25:51,308
because I, I didn't think
she was ever coming home.
502
00:25:51,342 --> 00:25:53,862
We all did-- you know,
you used to write letters.
503
00:25:53,897 --> 00:25:56,140
They were so consistent.
504
00:25:56,175 --> 00:25:57,728
You know, "I'm coming home.
505
00:25:57,763 --> 00:25:59,488
[audio fading]
"When I come home, do this.
506
00:25:59,523 --> 00:26:01,076
I'mma come home."
507
00:26:01,111 --> 00:26:04,252
♪
508
00:26:04,286 --> 00:26:07,289
[laughter and conversation
continue softly]
509
00:26:08,152 --> 00:26:10,603
METZ: My friends, they really
don't understand
510
00:26:10,638 --> 00:26:13,986
what my life is like.
511
00:26:14,020 --> 00:26:16,298
I had never saw my mom cry
before.
512
00:26:16,333 --> 00:26:18,335
And my mom was, like,
"I don't think you know
513
00:26:18,369 --> 00:26:19,647
"what just happened to you.
514
00:26:19,681 --> 00:26:21,614
[echoing]:
"Do you know you have life?
515
00:26:21,649 --> 00:26:23,720
[woman laughing,
film reel clicking]
516
00:26:23,754 --> 00:26:25,411
Do you know what that means?"
517
00:26:25,445 --> 00:26:29,035
WOMAN [on recording]: This call
is from a federal prison.
518
00:26:29,070 --> 00:26:30,381
METZ:
So many nights,
519
00:26:30,416 --> 00:26:33,350
so many people
screaming and yelling.
520
00:26:33,384 --> 00:26:35,283
Something has happened at home.
521
00:26:35,317 --> 00:26:37,009
[echoing]:
He had to restrain her.
522
00:26:37,043 --> 00:26:39,701
He hog-tied her,
shackled, body slammed.
523
00:26:39,736 --> 00:26:44,568
I would see women
contemplating suicide.
524
00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:47,053
Although my body was there,
my mind didn't have to be there.
525
00:26:47,088 --> 00:26:50,229
My spirit was not going
to be there.
526
00:26:50,263 --> 00:26:52,541
I wasn't going
to lose my sanity.
527
00:26:52,576 --> 00:26:56,338
♪
528
00:27:02,621 --> 00:27:04,692
After being in prison
for 18 years,
529
00:27:04,726 --> 00:27:07,177
I decided to work
at UNICOR call center.
530
00:27:07,211 --> 00:27:10,663
That's where
the 411 calls came in.
531
00:27:10,698 --> 00:27:16,324
The federal system
uses inmates for outsourcing.
532
00:27:16,358 --> 00:27:19,672
We would sit at cubicles--
it was like a nine-to-five.
533
00:27:19,707 --> 00:27:21,536
[call beeps]
City and state police.
534
00:27:21,570 --> 00:27:23,607
[voiceover]: We had to stay on
less than a minute.
535
00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:25,851
- City and state police,
may I have your listing?
536
00:27:25,885 --> 00:27:28,267
[voiceover]: And I didn't want
to work there before,
537
00:27:28,301 --> 00:27:29,751
because it was almost
like slave labor.
538
00:27:29,786 --> 00:27:33,824
They was paying us, like,
maybe 69 cents an hour.
539
00:27:33,859 --> 00:27:35,895
May I have your listing?
540
00:27:35,930 --> 00:27:37,448
[people speaking over phone]
541
00:27:37,483 --> 00:27:38,933
[voiceover]: But after
I got over there,
542
00:27:38,967 --> 00:27:41,521
it gave me, like, an escape.
543
00:27:41,556 --> 00:27:44,455
[people exclaiming, talking
on phone line]
544
00:27:44,490 --> 00:27:48,183
That was my connection
to the outside world.
545
00:27:48,218 --> 00:27:53,741
[children playing]
546
00:27:53,775 --> 00:27:58,228
♪
547
00:27:58,262 --> 00:28:02,957
[children playing]
548
00:28:02,991 --> 00:28:07,168
♪
549
00:28:08,272 --> 00:28:11,482
Once I log off,
take my headset off,
550
00:28:11,517 --> 00:28:13,657
now you have
officers escorting us.
551
00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:16,487
We have to get in line and,
you know, get our bags searched,
552
00:28:16,522 --> 00:28:18,317
move through
the metal detectors.
553
00:28:18,351 --> 00:28:23,840
Now you're going back
into the prison part of it.
554
00:28:23,874 --> 00:28:25,427
People would ask me,
555
00:28:25,462 --> 00:28:28,914
"Well, how did you,
how can you do this every day?"
556
00:28:28,948 --> 00:28:30,985
The women who I built
the sisterhood with,
557
00:28:31,019 --> 00:28:32,780
they helped me do my time.
558
00:28:32,814 --> 00:28:36,991
We become as close as mothers,
daughters, sisters.
559
00:28:37,025 --> 00:28:39,200
I've been in there 23 years,
560
00:28:39,234 --> 00:28:40,857
so I've been with them
just as long as
561
00:28:40,891 --> 00:28:44,136
I've been with my real family.
562
00:28:46,414 --> 00:28:49,624
We would fantasize about
being home all the time.
563
00:28:49,658 --> 00:28:53,593
♪
564
00:28:53,628 --> 00:28:56,769
And everybody would be by
my mother house on a Sunday.
565
00:28:56,804 --> 00:29:00,290
She would have, like, smothered
chicken, shrimp and okra.
566
00:29:00,324 --> 00:29:01,947
Ms. Pat, who was my roommate,
567
00:29:01,981 --> 00:29:06,330
she was, like, "Ooh, girl,
I could just taste that now."
568
00:29:06,365 --> 00:29:08,885
MS. PAT [on phone]:
Right, oh, yes, Dani.
569
00:29:08,919 --> 00:29:10,300
You remember that, Dani?
570
00:29:10,334 --> 00:29:12,889
I wish I had been able to come
571
00:29:12,923 --> 00:29:15,961
and see your mother
before she passed.
572
00:29:15,995 --> 00:29:17,307
Because I knew she could cook,
573
00:29:17,341 --> 00:29:19,378
and you know
how I love to eat, too.
574
00:29:19,412 --> 00:29:20,620
- Right.
- Just like you.
575
00:29:20,655 --> 00:29:22,070
- Right.
- We both greedy.
576
00:29:22,105 --> 00:29:24,279
- We both greedy.
- [laughs]
577
00:29:24,314 --> 00:29:26,040
- Yep.
- That's how I did my time.
578
00:29:26,074 --> 00:29:28,421
My body was there,
579
00:29:28,456 --> 00:29:31,114
but my mind
was very seldom there,
580
00:29:31,148 --> 00:29:32,425
and I prayed myself
581
00:29:32,460 --> 00:29:34,358
- up out of there, too.
- [chuckles]
582
00:29:34,393 --> 00:29:36,395
- You got in your word,
didn't you?
583
00:29:36,429 --> 00:29:38,259
Yes, I did.
584
00:29:38,293 --> 00:29:40,054
- Prayed your way up
out of there, too,
585
00:29:40,088 --> 00:29:41,710
because prayer works.
586
00:29:41,745 --> 00:29:44,506
So, Dani,
tell me about the kids.
587
00:29:44,541 --> 00:29:47,268
- I just want to hear.
- Well, you know, Ms. Pat,
588
00:29:47,302 --> 00:29:49,408
I still feel guilty
about, you know,
589
00:29:49,442 --> 00:29:52,825
not being here all those years,
590
00:29:52,860 --> 00:29:55,345
and sometime,
when I can't get to
591
00:29:55,379 --> 00:29:57,761
where they are right away,
it makes me sad.
592
00:29:57,796 --> 00:29:59,763
- Now, one thing
about the children I know,
593
00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:04,250
you can't allow them
to hold you hostage
594
00:30:04,285 --> 00:30:07,529
to what has happened.
595
00:30:08,979 --> 00:30:13,397
And I know things have gone
different ways with your son.
596
00:30:13,432 --> 00:30:15,952
My son did the same thing.
597
00:30:15,986 --> 00:30:17,919
They missed us, sweetheart.
598
00:30:17,954 --> 00:30:20,335
Even though they are adults now,
599
00:30:20,370 --> 00:30:22,544
they're still suffering.
600
00:30:22,579 --> 00:30:27,101
All you can do is pick up
since you've been home.
601
00:30:27,135 --> 00:30:29,379
You can only start now.
602
00:30:29,413 --> 00:30:31,657
MAN: Please join me
in welcoming Danielle Metz
603
00:30:31,691 --> 00:30:33,866
and Carmen James Randolph.
604
00:30:33,901 --> 00:30:38,975
[audience applauding]
605
00:30:39,009 --> 00:30:42,633
RANDOLPH: So, Danielle,
let's go back to the 1990s.
606
00:30:42,668 --> 00:30:47,224
Janet Jackson was singing
"That's the Way Love Goes."
607
00:30:47,259 --> 00:30:49,537
You were a young mother.
608
00:30:49,571 --> 00:30:52,747
Introduce us to who Danielle was
at that time.
609
00:30:52,781 --> 00:30:54,335
METZ: It's ironic
that you would say
610
00:30:54,369 --> 00:30:55,646
Janet Jackson,
because that's
611
00:30:55,681 --> 00:30:57,821
who I wanted to be.
[all laugh]
612
00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:01,963
That's who I really thought
I was back in the day.
613
00:31:01,998 --> 00:31:04,345
She is my favorite, of all.
614
00:31:04,379 --> 00:31:07,313
After Beyoncé, now.
615
00:31:07,348 --> 00:31:09,591
[audience laughs]
616
00:31:09,626 --> 00:31:10,661
My mom would come,
617
00:31:10,696 --> 00:31:12,077
and even when I get ready to cry
618
00:31:12,111 --> 00:31:14,044
or I get-- you know,
we get at the table
619
00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:15,528
and we have our little talks,
620
00:31:15,563 --> 00:31:17,151
she would always tell me,
she said,
621
00:31:17,185 --> 00:31:18,428
"Boo, ain't no sense in crying.
622
00:31:18,462 --> 00:31:20,395
You did what you wanted to do."
623
00:31:20,430 --> 00:31:22,363
She said, "So,
we just going to sit here
624
00:31:22,397 --> 00:31:24,330
"and eat these chicken wings,
625
00:31:24,365 --> 00:31:25,884
"and we not going to even
worry about that,
626
00:31:25,918 --> 00:31:27,575
because if you get to crying,
I'm going to leave."
627
00:31:27,609 --> 00:31:29,542
She said, "All you got to do
is have a little faith."
628
00:31:29,577 --> 00:31:30,958
My mom was a realist,
629
00:31:30,992 --> 00:31:32,580
and I had two kids
630
00:31:32,614 --> 00:31:34,478
that I had to be responsible
for,
631
00:31:34,513 --> 00:31:36,101
my son and my daughter.
632
00:31:36,135 --> 00:31:38,689
Both of them have never
given me a problem
633
00:31:38,724 --> 00:31:40,691
the whole time
I've been in prison.
634
00:31:40,726 --> 00:31:43,522
That says a lot,
because the statistics says that
635
00:31:43,556 --> 00:31:46,283
they'll probably end up
in prison themselves.
636
00:31:46,318 --> 00:31:47,906
Me and my son was writing,
right?
637
00:31:47,940 --> 00:31:49,908
And he was telling me
he wouldn't hang on the corner.
638
00:31:49,942 --> 00:31:51,392
And I told him, I said,
"Why?"
639
00:31:51,426 --> 00:31:52,980
I said, "They're just
hanging out."
640
00:31:53,014 --> 00:31:54,809
He said, "That's just not me,"
and I said, "Oh, okay."
641
00:31:54,843 --> 00:31:56,984
Right after
we was talking about it,
642
00:31:57,018 --> 00:31:58,951
somebody ended up getting
killed on the corner.
643
00:31:58,986 --> 00:32:00,125
So he said, "See, Ma,
644
00:32:00,159 --> 00:32:01,264
"that's why you wouldn't
catch me around there
645
00:32:01,298 --> 00:32:02,472
like that, you know?"
646
00:32:02,506 --> 00:32:04,198
I said,
"I would've been scared."
647
00:32:04,232 --> 00:32:05,371
And he said, "What you mean?"
648
00:32:05,406 --> 00:32:06,476
I said, "Because,
649
00:32:06,510 --> 00:32:08,133
"I ain't never had a gun before.
650
00:32:08,167 --> 00:32:09,617
"I never shot a gun.
651
00:32:09,651 --> 00:32:11,343
I never possessed a gun."
652
00:32:11,377 --> 00:32:12,378
He said, "What?"
653
00:32:12,413 --> 00:32:13,932
He said, "Mom, come on now."
654
00:32:13,966 --> 00:32:15,278
I said, "No."
655
00:32:15,312 --> 00:32:16,486
So, he needed to know that,
656
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,763
because whatever he was hearing
657
00:32:17,797 --> 00:32:19,523
or whatever people told him,
658
00:32:19,558 --> 00:32:21,629
he's thinking I'm one way,
and I'm another way.
659
00:32:21,663 --> 00:32:23,527
So that's why I need
660
00:32:23,562 --> 00:32:24,908
to tell my own story rather than
661
00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:26,392
let somebody else tell it
for me.
662
00:32:26,427 --> 00:32:27,842
[audience applauds]
663
00:32:27,876 --> 00:32:29,740
And it kind of broke my heart.
664
00:32:29,775 --> 00:32:31,639
I'm, like,
"Well, who do you think I am?"
665
00:32:31,673 --> 00:32:33,123
CARL BERNARD:
I remember just being
666
00:32:33,158 --> 00:32:35,954
by my grandmother watching
Richard Pryor's stand-up.
667
00:32:35,988 --> 00:32:39,578
He was, like, "Man, I met a guy
that had triple life.
668
00:32:39,612 --> 00:32:41,097
How bad were you?"
669
00:32:41,131 --> 00:32:42,857
RICHARD PRYOR: I met one
brother, his name was Jay-Bo.
670
00:32:42,891 --> 00:32:45,515
He was doing a sentence,
triple life.
671
00:32:45,549 --> 00:32:46,895
[audience laughs]
672
00:32:46,930 --> 00:32:50,485
How in the [bleep]
do you do triple life?
673
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,177
[audience cheering, applauding]
674
00:32:52,211 --> 00:32:55,214
I mean, that mean
if he die and come back...
675
00:32:55,249 --> 00:32:56,802
[audience laughs]
676
00:32:56,836 --> 00:32:58,424
...he got to go to penitentiary.
677
00:32:58,459 --> 00:33:01,772
[audience laughing, applauding]
678
00:33:01,807 --> 00:33:03,636
CARL BERNARD: It was early
in the morning, like,
679
00:33:03,671 --> 00:33:05,811
when the federal agents
kicked down the door,
680
00:33:05,845 --> 00:33:07,744
put guns to me
and my grandparents.
681
00:33:07,778 --> 00:33:10,229
They're tearing the whole house
up, like, literally,
682
00:33:10,264 --> 00:33:13,025
like, beds, cutting mattresses,
683
00:33:13,060 --> 00:33:15,269
and opening up cabinets,
really, like,
684
00:33:15,303 --> 00:33:18,168
ramshacking everything, like,
breaking TVs-- where is my mom?
685
00:33:18,203 --> 00:33:20,032
"Do you know how long
she's going to be gone?
686
00:33:20,067 --> 00:33:22,966
Do you know exactly it is
where she at?"
687
00:33:23,001 --> 00:33:25,417
♪
688
00:33:25,451 --> 00:33:27,971
My first time seeing her
through the glass,
689
00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:29,662
you know, it gave me
an understanding
690
00:33:29,697 --> 00:33:31,319
of what really was going on
somewhat.
691
00:33:31,354 --> 00:33:34,702
You know, not to the extent
as far as what length of time
692
00:33:34,736 --> 00:33:37,118
or things of that nature,
but, "Okay, she's in jail."
693
00:33:37,153 --> 00:33:39,983
REPORTER: The government
contends Glenn Metz and his wife
694
00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:42,951
were the bosses of a
highly structured organization
695
00:33:42,986 --> 00:33:45,057
that employed the other
defendants on trial as hitmen,
696
00:33:45,092 --> 00:33:47,163
drug distributors,
and collectors.
697
00:33:47,197 --> 00:33:49,165
ADRIAN BERNARD: Danielle asked
me to take her kids.
698
00:33:49,199 --> 00:33:51,719
She didn't want them
in New Orleans.
699
00:33:51,753 --> 00:33:53,548
And she knew family and friends
700
00:33:53,583 --> 00:33:56,103
would be talking about
everything that happened,
701
00:33:56,137 --> 00:34:00,659
and she just wanted the kids
away from that noise.
702
00:34:00,693 --> 00:34:05,319
For the first two years,
Carl stayed with me,
703
00:34:05,353 --> 00:34:07,079
and when he turned nine,
704
00:34:07,114 --> 00:34:11,187
he asked his mom to move
back to New Orleans
705
00:34:11,221 --> 00:34:14,190
with his paternal grandmother.
706
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:18,021
I relocated to
Northern California,
707
00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:23,199
which was about 45 minutes
from where Danielle was housed,
708
00:34:23,233 --> 00:34:25,684
for her to have an opportunity
709
00:34:25,718 --> 00:34:27,686
to have a relationship
with her daughter.
710
00:34:28,997 --> 00:34:33,450
HAYTER: On visiting day,
we got there about 7:45-ish.
711
00:34:33,485 --> 00:34:35,521
We would just sit
in that visiting shed
712
00:34:35,556 --> 00:34:37,834
and try to compact
everything that happened
713
00:34:37,868 --> 00:34:40,008
in that week of main events,
714
00:34:40,043 --> 00:34:44,254
things that were missed,
in that one sitting.
715
00:34:44,289 --> 00:34:46,670
We would cry, laugh, sing,
716
00:34:46,705 --> 00:34:48,465
do all kinds of stuff--
tell jokes.
717
00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:52,814
You know, I'd try to keep
the strong face on for my mom
718
00:34:52,849 --> 00:34:55,645
so she didn't have to
worry about me being emotional.
719
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:57,612
While my brother,
for the most part,
720
00:34:57,647 --> 00:34:59,027
he would cry a lot,
721
00:34:59,062 --> 00:35:00,788
but I would try to comfort him
and tell him
722
00:35:00,822 --> 00:35:03,722
it's going to be okay.
723
00:35:03,756 --> 00:35:05,310
CARL BERNARD:
On family day, they allow you
724
00:35:05,344 --> 00:35:07,898
to actually, like,
go into the facilities,
725
00:35:07,933 --> 00:35:09,797
and it had basketball.
726
00:35:09,831 --> 00:35:11,937
[children playing]
727
00:35:11,971 --> 00:35:14,077
I always would get mad
that she'll beat me,
728
00:35:14,112 --> 00:35:16,528
because I thought that
I could beat her at everything.
729
00:35:16,562 --> 00:35:18,978
She would not let me win.
730
00:35:19,013 --> 00:35:21,084
She'll let me
get super, super close,
731
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:22,396
and then she'd just come with
this, like,
732
00:35:22,430 --> 00:35:24,191
this special move, and...
733
00:35:24,225 --> 00:35:26,745
You're having so much fun,
you're with your mom,
734
00:35:26,779 --> 00:35:28,781
things really, like,
seem somewhat normal,
735
00:35:28,816 --> 00:35:30,438
because you're
back with your mom, so...
736
00:35:30,473 --> 00:35:32,578
But, like, every other hour, you
would just look at the clock,
737
00:35:32,613 --> 00:35:34,235
and as the time go,
738
00:35:34,270 --> 00:35:36,306
it's just getting more sad
and more sad as the time pass.
739
00:35:36,341 --> 00:35:39,275
So by the time, like,
it gets to, like, 2:45,
740
00:35:39,309 --> 00:35:40,552
you go sit on your mom lap,
741
00:35:40,586 --> 00:35:42,381
you go to hug her
and stuff like that,
742
00:35:42,416 --> 00:35:44,970
and that would really, like,
hit me every single time.
743
00:35:45,004 --> 00:35:47,006
I would just blank out,
and just really, like,
744
00:35:47,041 --> 00:35:48,353
"Dang, this is really you."
745
00:35:48,387 --> 00:35:50,665
Like, "This, this is really
your life."
746
00:35:52,874 --> 00:35:55,291
That last day,
we would have to almost
747
00:35:55,325 --> 00:35:58,811
pry him away from his mother.
748
00:36:03,747 --> 00:36:06,233
CARL BERNARD: Imagine being six,
seven years old,
749
00:36:06,267 --> 00:36:10,064
really thinking that you may not
see your mom, like, ever again
750
00:36:10,098 --> 00:36:11,307
as a free person.
751
00:36:11,341 --> 00:36:14,275
[birds calling]
752
00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:18,866
It made me, like, not really,
like, have feelings.
753
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:22,283
To this day, I try to work
on that, to feel.
754
00:36:22,318 --> 00:36:23,974
Like, to feel things.
755
00:36:28,151 --> 00:36:31,327
My question, since a kid,
was, was always, was, like,
756
00:36:31,361 --> 00:36:32,880
"What would be the best for me?"
757
00:36:32,914 --> 00:36:34,433
You know,
"How could I really, like,
758
00:36:34,468 --> 00:36:35,848
"be in my best state of mind,
759
00:36:35,883 --> 00:36:38,196
"be the best person
that I possibly would be,
760
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:40,163
"with the circumstances
really, like, being
761
00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:42,234
"what the circumstances being,
as it's pertaining to
762
00:36:42,269 --> 00:36:45,962
you know, my mom or whatnot?"
So, yeah.
763
00:36:52,658 --> 00:36:54,660
Yeah, peace is everything to me.
764
00:36:56,283 --> 00:36:57,629
Driving is soothing.
765
00:36:57,663 --> 00:36:59,527
You know, anything for me to,
um,
766
00:36:59,562 --> 00:37:02,427
to soothe my mind, I do it.
767
00:37:02,461 --> 00:37:04,394
So no radio, no nothing.
768
00:37:04,429 --> 00:37:06,810
No company, just riding.
769
00:37:09,296 --> 00:37:10,607
I always was a loner.
770
00:37:10,642 --> 00:37:12,057
That's one of the things that
771
00:37:12,091 --> 00:37:16,199
I think I needed to just stay,
just, focused.
772
00:37:18,512 --> 00:37:21,998
♪
773
00:37:22,032 --> 00:37:23,620
It was just too heavy on me,
774
00:37:23,655 --> 00:37:26,244
just me trying
to process everything.
775
00:37:28,142 --> 00:37:33,043
♪
776
00:37:33,078 --> 00:37:34,493
When she came home,
like, you know,
777
00:37:34,528 --> 00:37:38,014
as happy as I was,
my soul was just exhausted.
778
00:37:40,050 --> 00:37:42,087
You know, you're trying
779
00:37:42,121 --> 00:37:43,813
for her,
and for yourself, as well,
780
00:37:43,847 --> 00:37:46,091
to be something
that you haven't been
781
00:37:46,125 --> 00:37:50,198
for the last 33 years
of your life.
782
00:37:56,722 --> 00:38:00,519
♪
783
00:38:00,554 --> 00:38:04,799
[birds chirping]
784
00:38:24,888 --> 00:38:26,442
METZ: I miss her.
785
00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:30,204
I miss her, and sometimes, like,
I just feel like...
786
00:38:30,238 --> 00:38:33,069
[sniffles]: ...I'm out here
by myself, like...
787
00:38:34,070 --> 00:38:36,106
You know, my son,
him was in a book called
788
00:38:36,141 --> 00:38:38,177
"Alone in the World," and
every time I think about it,
789
00:38:38,212 --> 00:38:39,593
I'll be, like,
"Well, that's what I am.
790
00:38:39,627 --> 00:38:43,079
"Alone in the world,
just me, myself, and I,
791
00:38:43,113 --> 00:38:46,358
riding down the street
by myself."
792
00:38:46,393 --> 00:38:47,704
I'm fine.
793
00:38:48,878 --> 00:38:50,120
I'm fine.
794
00:38:50,155 --> 00:38:52,571
You know, other people
think that,
795
00:38:52,606 --> 00:38:55,643
you know, like, when you're in
prison, or, just saying that
796
00:38:55,678 --> 00:38:57,162
all that I've overcome,
797
00:38:57,196 --> 00:38:58,681
like, you still don't have
life, everyday issues.
798
00:38:58,715 --> 00:39:01,028
They say, "Well, you ought
to be glad you're home.
799
00:39:01,062 --> 00:39:02,581
Just worry about you
being home."
800
00:39:02,616 --> 00:39:03,651
But it's a lot come with that.
801
00:39:03,686 --> 00:39:05,066
It's not just you being home.
802
00:39:05,101 --> 00:39:07,068
You still have to deal with
your emotions,
803
00:39:07,103 --> 00:39:09,070
your struggles, your progress.
804
00:39:09,105 --> 00:39:11,901
It's still a process.
805
00:39:11,935 --> 00:39:14,766
And I know I'm far from perfect,
806
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,734
you know, but I'm trying.
807
00:39:17,769 --> 00:39:20,081
And I'm making all the effort...
808
00:39:20,116 --> 00:39:21,945
[sniffles]: ...to be the best
example I can be
809
00:39:21,980 --> 00:39:24,534
to my kids, to the community,
810
00:39:24,569 --> 00:39:25,777
to my mom,
811
00:39:25,811 --> 00:39:27,779
to my nephews,
812
00:39:27,813 --> 00:39:30,057
to all of the young girls
in the past that
813
00:39:30,091 --> 00:39:31,403
probably knew Danielle
814
00:39:31,438 --> 00:39:33,578
when I was out there
in the world,
815
00:39:33,612 --> 00:39:38,203
to just be a good example.
816
00:39:53,252 --> 00:39:54,461
HAYTER: This is our house.
817
00:39:54,495 --> 00:39:57,947
This is where we stay,
right here.
818
00:39:59,155 --> 00:40:01,019
METZ: I'm just glad that,
you know,
819
00:40:01,053 --> 00:40:02,434
you had somewhere to stay
820
00:40:02,469 --> 00:40:04,298
while I was in, in prison
and stuff.
821
00:40:04,332 --> 00:40:05,782
Your auntie did a
822
00:40:05,817 --> 00:40:08,129
wonderful job raising you guys,
823
00:40:08,164 --> 00:40:10,511
and just bringing y'all
into a good environment
824
00:40:10,546 --> 00:40:12,479
and having somewhere
that you can,
825
00:40:12,513 --> 00:40:15,861
you know, a place
that you can call home.
826
00:40:15,896 --> 00:40:17,242
This house right here
827
00:40:17,276 --> 00:40:19,796
was where one of
my boyfriends used to stay.
828
00:40:19,831 --> 00:40:22,661
- [laughs]
- One of your boyfriends?
829
00:40:22,696 --> 00:40:24,422
You ain't had no boyfriend.
830
00:40:24,456 --> 00:40:25,492
Yes, I did.
831
00:40:25,526 --> 00:40:28,184
- Oh, you did?
- [laughing]: Mm-hmm.
832
00:40:28,218 --> 00:40:29,979
I forgot to write you
about that.
833
00:40:30,013 --> 00:40:33,189
- Oh, okay, okay.
- [laughs]
834
00:40:33,223 --> 00:40:36,192
- [fussing]
HAYTER: Hey.
835
00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:39,471
- Oh, the pumpkin.
- Does she have her toy
836
00:40:39,506 --> 00:40:42,129
or anything in there?
837
00:40:42,163 --> 00:40:44,545
[objects in bag shifting]
838
00:40:44,580 --> 00:40:46,409
There, my little pumpkin.
839
00:40:47,928 --> 00:40:49,999
Thank you.
840
00:40:50,033 --> 00:40:52,001
I had Chinese food.
841
00:40:52,035 --> 00:40:53,140
Victory was just, like,
842
00:40:53,174 --> 00:40:54,555
"String beans!"
843
00:40:54,590 --> 00:40:57,938
[laughs]
844
00:40:57,972 --> 00:41:00,941
I did give her
a little iced tea, though.
845
00:41:00,975 --> 00:41:02,598
- Iced-- Mama!
846
00:41:02,632 --> 00:41:04,151
I cannot trust her with you.
847
00:41:04,185 --> 00:41:06,636
- No, you can.
- That's caffeine.
848
00:41:06,671 --> 00:41:08,017
Babies is not supposed to
849
00:41:08,051 --> 00:41:09,052
- drink tea like that.
- No.
850
00:41:09,087 --> 00:41:10,606
Oh, my God.
851
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,986
Babies can't have tea, Neisha?
852
00:41:12,021 --> 00:41:13,332
Mama...
853
00:41:13,367 --> 00:41:15,127
- A little tea,
unsweetened iced tea?
854
00:41:16,128 --> 00:41:19,373
And, uh, what else
did I give her?
855
00:41:21,133 --> 00:41:23,481
HAYTER [voiceover]:
Now that my mom's home,
856
00:41:23,515 --> 00:41:26,276
it's, like, "Mom, I'm not
a kid anymore," you know?
857
00:41:26,311 --> 00:41:28,037
She wants to tell me,
858
00:41:28,071 --> 00:41:29,176
"Oh, you don't need to do this,"
859
00:41:29,210 --> 00:41:30,488
or she wants to tell me
860
00:41:30,522 --> 00:41:31,868
how to raise my child,
and I'm, like,
861
00:41:31,903 --> 00:41:33,905
"No, Mama."
862
00:41:33,939 --> 00:41:35,907
"Mama."
863
00:41:35,941 --> 00:41:37,978
But sometimes I am fearful,
864
00:41:38,012 --> 00:41:41,464
as a mother, because I don't
really know how to be a mother,
865
00:41:41,499 --> 00:41:45,468
and I've never seen
a mother figure.
866
00:41:45,503 --> 00:41:48,333
I had my aunt,
but I didn't have a mom.
867
00:41:48,367 --> 00:41:52,510
So a lot of times,
I'm praying and winging it.
868
00:41:53,511 --> 00:41:56,203
METZ: Ooh, lookit,
she's running for Granny.
869
00:41:56,237 --> 00:41:57,584
Look, look, look, look.
870
00:41:57,618 --> 00:41:59,965
HAYTER: When
I walk in and I see my mom
871
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,242
here with Victory,
872
00:42:01,277 --> 00:42:04,383
sometimes I have to
pinch myself.
873
00:42:04,418 --> 00:42:06,869
- I still can't believe it.
- All right!
874
00:42:06,903 --> 00:42:09,665
HAYTER: I wish she would come
and stay up this way,
875
00:42:09,699 --> 00:42:12,150
but she's pretty busy
and going back to school
876
00:42:12,184 --> 00:42:16,326
and trying to get her life
back on track.
877
00:42:16,361 --> 00:42:18,812
METZ: Ooh,
you running laps, girl.
878
00:42:18,846 --> 00:42:19,951
Run.
879
00:42:20,814 --> 00:42:24,127
MAN: Team, today, we'll be doing
our collective canvass
880
00:42:24,162 --> 00:42:25,404
in the Central City target area.
881
00:42:25,439 --> 00:42:26,923
Danielle Metz
will be taking the lead.
882
00:42:26,958 --> 00:42:28,615
METZ: Let's go on by
the project food store first.
883
00:42:28,649 --> 00:42:30,686
You know, by the Magnolia,
the Melpomene.
884
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:32,239
That's our target area.
885
00:42:32,273 --> 00:42:34,379
Anything going on today?
886
00:42:34,413 --> 00:42:35,414
You staying out of trouble, huh?
887
00:42:35,449 --> 00:42:36,692
- Yeah.
- All right.
888
00:42:36,726 --> 00:42:38,176
What I told you?
889
00:42:38,210 --> 00:42:40,454
- Stay good, stay working,
stay out of trouble.
890
00:42:40,488 --> 00:42:41,731
♪
891
00:42:41,766 --> 00:42:45,321
WOMAN: She has served
as an advocate and mentor.
892
00:42:45,355 --> 00:42:47,634
Danielle Metz.
[audience applauding]
893
00:42:47,668 --> 00:42:49,497
METZ: So when
the judge gave me life,
894
00:42:49,532 --> 00:42:51,465
he told me I had
forfeited my right
895
00:42:51,499 --> 00:42:53,432
to live in a humane society.
896
00:42:53,467 --> 00:42:55,434
He was going to make me out
an example
897
00:42:55,469 --> 00:42:59,611
for anybody that wished
to follow in my footsteps.
898
00:42:59,646 --> 00:43:02,303
We all have a past, and a lot of
us are not proud of things that
899
00:43:02,338 --> 00:43:04,340
we have done in the past,
but it is not gonna do us
900
00:43:04,374 --> 00:43:06,238
any good to stay focused on it.
901
00:43:06,273 --> 00:43:09,517
Our names are gonna go farther
than our faces ever will.
902
00:43:09,552 --> 00:43:11,554
So use this as a launching pad.
903
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:13,487
And thank you
and have a great day.
904
00:43:13,521 --> 00:43:16,179
[applauding]
905
00:43:18,561 --> 00:43:21,046
Me becoming a mentor
and working every day
906
00:43:21,081 --> 00:43:23,704
and going to school,
it's therapeutic for me.
907
00:43:26,017 --> 00:43:28,157
It is a loneliness inside me.
908
00:43:28,191 --> 00:43:30,331
I have to keep moving.
909
00:43:30,366 --> 00:43:32,713
I have to keep going
to not think about it.
910
00:43:32,748 --> 00:43:36,165
Hi, are you making an
appointment for the FIT Clinic?
911
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:37,235
When was your release date?
912
00:43:37,269 --> 00:43:39,099
Yeah, we treat for everything.
913
00:43:39,133 --> 00:43:42,171
Hey, Mr. Dave, how you doing?
914
00:43:42,205 --> 00:43:43,759
You know, coming out of prison,
915
00:43:43,793 --> 00:43:46,244
people don't realize how
important healthcare is
916
00:43:46,278 --> 00:43:48,556
on the inside, but I know
when I was in there,
917
00:43:48,591 --> 00:43:50,524
you rarely ever got treated
for anything.
918
00:43:50,558 --> 00:43:52,146
Is that how it was
where you was at?
919
00:43:52,181 --> 00:43:55,011
Last year, I was just employed
at Cure Violence,
920
00:43:55,046 --> 00:43:57,220
formerly CeaseFire.
921
00:43:57,255 --> 00:43:59,222
Now I'm the Formerly
Incarcerated Transition
922
00:43:59,257 --> 00:44:01,915
community health worker
under Tulane University.
923
00:44:01,949 --> 00:44:04,365
[audience applauding]
I'm still attending school.
924
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,715
I'm just using my story
as a vehicle to change things.
925
00:44:12,580 --> 00:44:14,824
Come here, girl.
926
00:44:14,859 --> 00:44:16,757
That's my little niece.
927
00:44:16,792 --> 00:44:20,243
[giggling]
928
00:44:20,278 --> 00:44:21,417
You chilling?
929
00:44:21,451 --> 00:44:25,248
[talking in background]
930
00:44:25,283 --> 00:44:27,354
- I got to pass
by my auntie house.
931
00:44:27,388 --> 00:44:28,976
You know, that's my auntie
who told on me.
932
00:44:29,011 --> 00:44:33,532
- I know-- I know that.
- The one with the blonde hair.
933
00:44:33,567 --> 00:44:35,983
REPORTER: Angela Bernard
wove a spellbinding tale
934
00:44:36,018 --> 00:44:38,296
of the Metz organization
and its profits.
935
00:44:38,330 --> 00:44:39,711
She recounted how her nephew,
936
00:44:39,746 --> 00:44:42,300
Glenn Metz,
recruited her in 1987
937
00:44:42,334 --> 00:44:46,718
to count money
for the alleged gang.
938
00:44:46,753 --> 00:44:50,308
METZ: I know how much
my mom love her sister.
939
00:44:50,342 --> 00:44:53,380
That was her baby sister,
my aunt,
940
00:44:53,414 --> 00:44:55,382
the one person that I trusted.
941
00:44:56,797 --> 00:45:00,663
I'd never think that it would
come to that, but it did.
942
00:45:00,698 --> 00:45:03,286
REPORTER: Bernard testified
she and Danielle Metz
943
00:45:03,321 --> 00:45:04,702
often traveled to Houston
944
00:45:04,736 --> 00:45:06,151
with thousands
of dollars concealed
945
00:45:06,186 --> 00:45:07,670
in a specially built
station wagon
946
00:45:07,705 --> 00:45:11,294
for Colombian drug dealers
to pack with cocaine.
947
00:45:13,124 --> 00:45:14,988
METZ: She and I,
we would go out of town
948
00:45:15,022 --> 00:45:18,129
from New Orleans to Houston.
949
00:45:18,163 --> 00:45:19,475
In my mind, I put it like
950
00:45:19,509 --> 00:45:21,339
I wasn't going
to do anything illegal,
951
00:45:21,373 --> 00:45:25,136
which, I knew it was illegal.
952
00:45:25,170 --> 00:45:27,069
We had a lot of tension
in the house.
953
00:45:27,103 --> 00:45:28,656
Sometime he would hit me.
954
00:45:28,691 --> 00:45:30,382
Like, I didn't want
no problems with him.
955
00:45:30,417 --> 00:45:31,867
I didn't want to argue
with him or nothing.
956
00:45:31,901 --> 00:45:33,420
So I kind of initiated it.
957
00:45:33,454 --> 00:45:34,973
Not kind of, I initiated.
958
00:45:35,008 --> 00:45:37,665
He didn't ask me to do anything
for him-- I volunteered.
959
00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:39,184
I said, "Well, you know,
you know,
960
00:45:39,219 --> 00:45:40,323
"if you need somebody
to do something
961
00:45:40,358 --> 00:45:41,704
for you, then I'll do it."
962
00:45:41,739 --> 00:45:43,188
You know, like, I figure
I'm his wife.
963
00:45:43,223 --> 00:45:44,569
You know, like, I'm here.
964
00:45:44,603 --> 00:45:48,642
You know,
that was my thinking then.
965
00:45:48,676 --> 00:45:50,713
"Okay, I'll do it, or
whatever you need me to do."
966
00:45:50,748 --> 00:45:52,957
Now, I didn't think
he would take me up on it.
967
00:45:52,991 --> 00:45:57,271
But that's what happened.
968
00:46:00,758 --> 00:46:02,483
When you're in
that kind of relationship,
969
00:46:02,518 --> 00:46:04,175
that's something
you really hide,
970
00:46:04,209 --> 00:46:08,041
that you don't want
nobody to know.
971
00:46:08,075 --> 00:46:11,872
It cost me my life.
972
00:46:11,907 --> 00:46:16,566
♪
973
00:46:19,466 --> 00:46:21,848
They were so small,
and every visit,
974
00:46:21,882 --> 00:46:25,127
they were getting taller
and bigger and bigger.
975
00:46:25,161 --> 00:46:27,819
Christmas was
the hardest time for me.
976
00:46:27,854 --> 00:46:29,959
But at the end of the visit,
we would always,
977
00:46:29,994 --> 00:46:31,443
"Everybody bow their heads.
978
00:46:31,478 --> 00:46:34,757
Next Christmas, your mom
is gonna be home."
979
00:46:34,792 --> 00:46:38,899
["We Wish You a Merry
Christmas" playing]
980
00:46:38,934 --> 00:46:41,764
Sometimes, I try to just push it
out of my mind,
981
00:46:41,799 --> 00:46:45,457
like, it's not really
the holiday season.
982
00:46:45,492 --> 00:46:50,152
Carl says,
"Oh, man, I'm so happy that
983
00:46:50,186 --> 00:46:52,395
I'm not on my way
to visit you in prison."
984
00:46:52,430 --> 00:46:54,087
And I was, like, "Huh?"
985
00:46:54,121 --> 00:46:55,364
And he was, like, "You know,
986
00:46:55,398 --> 00:46:56,917
"we'd be on our way up there
right now
987
00:46:56,952 --> 00:46:58,816
"if you weren't home.
988
00:46:58,850 --> 00:47:01,542
"And Granny would be telling us
how to behave,
989
00:47:01,577 --> 00:47:03,061
'Make sure my daughter's
not upset.'"
990
00:47:03,096 --> 00:47:06,893
I said, "I don't even want
to think about it."
991
00:47:06,927 --> 00:47:09,585
I didn't know
if I was happy or sad.
992
00:47:09,619 --> 00:47:13,209
Just like now, I still don't
know if I'm happy or I'm sad.
993
00:47:16,385 --> 00:47:18,145
You know, holidays,
994
00:47:18,180 --> 00:47:20,907
you know, you look to spending
with your family and...
995
00:47:22,184 --> 00:47:23,702
I wish I can go back and start
996
00:47:23,737 --> 00:47:25,394
from when they were
seven years old
997
00:47:25,428 --> 00:47:28,052
and just have plans and say,
998
00:47:28,086 --> 00:47:29,674
"This is what we gonna do."
999
00:47:29,708 --> 00:47:33,678
But Carl, he kind of
introverted person.
1000
00:47:33,712 --> 00:47:35,749
He don't-- you know,
he do his own thing.
1001
00:47:35,783 --> 00:47:39,615
My daughter, she's going
somewhere else for Christmas
1002
00:47:39,649 --> 00:47:41,513
with her other side
of the family,
1003
00:47:41,548 --> 00:47:45,241
somewhere in another city,
another state.
1004
00:47:45,276 --> 00:47:46,898
["God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen"
playing]
1005
00:47:46,933 --> 00:47:50,384
I always think and ask myself,
"Am I supposed to be here?
1006
00:47:50,419 --> 00:47:52,662
[music playing, bell ringing]
1007
00:47:52,697 --> 00:47:57,012
"Is this what I'm supposed
to be doing?
1008
00:47:58,461 --> 00:48:03,742
Is this where God
want me at now?"
1009
00:48:17,964 --> 00:48:20,863
[laughs]
1010
00:48:20,898 --> 00:48:22,692
What's up, baby?
1011
00:48:22,727 --> 00:48:25,868
- Dani, girl.
- [laughing]: Hey.
1012
00:48:25,903 --> 00:48:27,180
Who would have ever thought,
huh?
1013
00:48:27,214 --> 00:48:28,457
Wow.
1014
00:48:28,491 --> 00:48:30,459
Oh, my God,
you look like a model.
1015
00:48:30,493 --> 00:48:31,874
- [laughs]
- Oh, go ahead.
1016
00:48:31,909 --> 00:48:33,324
- You look good.
- I'm all right.
1017
00:48:33,358 --> 00:48:35,084
- I love your hair
and everything.
1018
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:37,466
When I was in prison,
when people would say,
1019
00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:38,916
"How long have you been
in prison?"
1020
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:41,228
a lot of the time,
I would just be, like,
1021
00:48:41,263 --> 00:48:43,748
"This long,"
but it was down to here.
1022
00:48:43,782 --> 00:48:45,577
- [laughing]:
Yeah, right, right, right.
1023
00:48:45,612 --> 00:48:47,890
- Have you ever been
to Arkansas?
1024
00:48:47,925 --> 00:48:49,616
- The only thing
I know about Arkansas
1025
00:48:49,650 --> 00:48:53,068
- is President Clinton and you.
- [laughs]
1026
00:48:53,102 --> 00:48:56,968
Well, here is
what I call the war room.
1027
00:48:57,003 --> 00:48:58,452
Oh, my gosh.
1028
00:48:58,487 --> 00:49:00,661
- That's just
a small percentage,
1029
00:49:00,696 --> 00:49:02,491
because I just wanted
to help women.
1030
00:49:02,525 --> 00:49:04,217
For a long time, you know,
that's all I did.
1031
00:49:04,251 --> 00:49:05,908
I just did you women,
1032
00:49:05,943 --> 00:49:07,772
knowing that we were
mostly just in there
1033
00:49:07,806 --> 00:49:11,534
because of what
a husband or boyfriend did.
1034
00:49:11,569 --> 00:49:12,639
So it started off real small,
1035
00:49:12,673 --> 00:49:13,951
and then I finally just said,
1036
00:49:13,985 --> 00:49:15,504
"Oh, screw it,
I'll just, you know,
1037
00:49:15,538 --> 00:49:17,230
let's just help everybody."
1038
00:49:17,264 --> 00:49:18,921
But it has me spread so thin,
1039
00:49:18,956 --> 00:49:21,544
because I don't, I don't
really have the infrastructure.
1040
00:49:21,579 --> 00:49:23,995
But do you-- here's all of,
1041
00:49:24,030 --> 00:49:26,653
here's all of us
that were together.
1042
00:49:26,687 --> 00:49:28,517
- Yeah, yeah.
- So you and [unintelligible]
1043
00:49:28,551 --> 00:49:30,070
and Angie.
1044
00:49:30,105 --> 00:49:31,969
And sometimes we'd all be
1045
00:49:32,003 --> 00:49:34,488
- in the law library together.
- Yeah.
1046
00:49:34,523 --> 00:49:39,217
- This is
unbelievable that-- the odds,
1047
00:49:39,252 --> 00:49:41,737
the David and Goliath
element to this story--
1048
00:49:41,771 --> 00:49:44,360
that we're sitting here trying
to understand the law
1049
00:49:44,395 --> 00:49:49,020
to defend ourselves,
up against, you know, Goliath.
1050
00:49:49,055 --> 00:49:51,505
- I always thought
you was going home anyway.
1051
00:49:51,540 --> 00:49:54,612
You know, you, you was
the typical candidate:
1052
00:49:54,646 --> 00:49:57,166
green eyes, blonde hair.
1053
00:49:57,201 --> 00:49:59,065
I just thought that
you would always go home.
1054
00:49:59,099 --> 00:50:01,343
That's just how,
you know, the scales are.
1055
00:50:01,377 --> 00:50:02,689
It's kind of sad, in a way,
1056
00:50:02,723 --> 00:50:04,104
- isn't it, though?
- Yeah.
1057
00:50:04,139 --> 00:50:07,142
- But that's the way it is.
- It's sad. It is sad.
1058
00:50:09,144 --> 00:50:13,941
My own sentence was commuted
by President Clinton in 2000.
1059
00:50:13,976 --> 00:50:16,599
I felt like
what was so important
1060
00:50:16,634 --> 00:50:20,741
with my own case is exposure.
1061
00:50:20,776 --> 00:50:24,124
What do we need to do
to bring women out of prison
1062
00:50:24,159 --> 00:50:26,575
so that they have
a presence out here
1063
00:50:26,609 --> 00:50:31,683
in the collective consciousness
of society?
1064
00:50:31,718 --> 00:50:34,997
I married
a successful businessman,
1065
00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:39,277
and he believed in the
medicinal properties of MDMA.
1066
00:50:39,312 --> 00:50:43,454
He was embarking on
a business venture, basically,
1067
00:50:43,488 --> 00:50:45,456
to have it manufactured.
1068
00:50:46,353 --> 00:50:49,908
I had periphial exposure
1069
00:50:49,943 --> 00:50:52,497
that sucked me into
the conspiracy statute,
1070
00:50:52,532 --> 00:50:54,154
which means if you do one thing,
1071
00:50:54,189 --> 00:50:58,124
you're guilty for everything
that everybody else has done.
1072
00:50:58,158 --> 00:51:01,782
So, I was sentenced in '92
to 24 years to FCI Dublin.
1073
00:51:01,817 --> 00:51:03,267
I'm witnessing all these
1074
00:51:03,301 --> 00:51:05,890
other women who are in
the same situation I was,
1075
00:51:05,924 --> 00:51:07,685
who just had
periphial involvement
1076
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:13,242
due to their relationship
to a husband or boyfriend.
1077
00:51:13,277 --> 00:51:18,730
The whole prison experience
for me was,
1078
00:51:18,765 --> 00:51:21,871
as much as
I hate to admit it, um,
1079
00:51:21,906 --> 00:51:24,322
it's where I found my purpose.
1080
00:51:24,357 --> 00:51:27,946
And I feel like
we were given an education.
1081
00:51:27,981 --> 00:51:30,121
You learn everything
about going to trial.
1082
00:51:30,156 --> 00:51:31,674
And then, when you're done,
you're, like,
1083
00:51:31,709 --> 00:51:32,744
"Well, I won't get
an opportunity
1084
00:51:32,779 --> 00:51:34,539
- to do that again."
- Right.
1085
00:51:34,574 --> 00:51:36,714
- But now I know everything
I would've done different.
1086
00:51:36,748 --> 00:51:39,026
Well, now you're an expert.
1087
00:51:40,131 --> 00:51:42,651
- Right.
- You're an expert on
1088
00:51:42,685 --> 00:51:47,311
so many things in policy, and
with regard to prison reform,
1089
00:51:47,345 --> 00:51:50,969
and then also
sentencing reform and clemency.
1090
00:51:52,523 --> 00:51:53,834
METZ: A lot of times,
1091
00:51:53,869 --> 00:51:55,422
I wonder
if I'm spinning my wheels,
1092
00:51:55,457 --> 00:51:57,804
if I'm making a difference.
1093
00:51:57,838 --> 00:52:01,808
Is it gonna matter
what happened with me?
1094
00:52:01,842 --> 00:52:05,984
Is it gonna give somebody else
a second chance?
1095
00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:14,855
I think it was, like, 1993.
1096
00:52:14,890 --> 00:52:19,308
Me and Glenn moved to Vegas,
we got into a argument.
1097
00:52:19,343 --> 00:52:24,865
It got physical,
and I waited till, um, he left.
1098
00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:27,178
But this time, I wrote a letter
and say I was leaving.
1099
00:52:27,213 --> 00:52:30,664
I wasn't coming back.
1100
00:52:30,699 --> 00:52:33,978
But it was too late.
1101
00:52:34,012 --> 00:52:35,773
When the indictment came out,
1102
00:52:35,807 --> 00:52:41,606
I realized that, hey,
I am wanted by the FBI.
1103
00:52:42,538 --> 00:52:44,195
I went to Mississippi.
1104
00:52:44,230 --> 00:52:46,680
I think it was, like,
five months.
1105
00:52:46,715 --> 00:52:48,095
I would psych myself out,
1106
00:52:48,130 --> 00:52:50,305
like, you know, this was
gonna be my new life.
1107
00:52:50,339 --> 00:52:53,722
But I knew I couldn't be
on the run forever by myself.
1108
00:52:54,895 --> 00:52:56,380
I knew at some point,
1109
00:52:56,414 --> 00:52:59,245
I was gonna be separated
from my kids for a long time.
1110
00:53:01,247 --> 00:53:03,387
So, I just started imagining
my life, what it would've been
1111
00:53:03,421 --> 00:53:06,183
had it not come to this.
1112
00:53:06,217 --> 00:53:07,874
Why didn't I tell somebody
what I was going through?
1113
00:53:07,908 --> 00:53:10,532
Maybe somebody
could have helped me.
1114
00:53:10,566 --> 00:53:12,603
Why didn't I get out sooner?
1115
00:53:14,121 --> 00:53:16,020
It was breaking my heart--
I was, like,
1116
00:53:16,054 --> 00:53:18,229
"I just hope it hurry up
and come to a end.
1117
00:53:18,264 --> 00:53:22,716
If they come and find me,
just come on, find me."
1118
00:53:25,271 --> 00:53:26,996
REPORTER:
Fugitive Danielle Metz,
1119
00:53:27,031 --> 00:53:29,378
wife of drug kingpin Glenn Metz,
was arrested Saturday
1120
00:53:29,413 --> 00:53:32,243
at an apartment building
in Jackson, Mississippi.
1121
00:53:32,278 --> 00:53:36,040
I'm sure he thought that
I would testify against him.
1122
00:53:36,074 --> 00:53:39,181
I'm sure he thought
that the way we left off,
1123
00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:41,804
that, "Oh, she's gonna, you
know, since this happened,
1124
00:53:41,839 --> 00:53:43,254
she's gonna do that to me."
1125
00:53:43,289 --> 00:53:45,498
But I just couldn't bring myself
to do it to him.
1126
00:53:45,532 --> 00:53:48,017
The prosecutor turned it around.
1127
00:53:48,052 --> 00:53:49,260
The story that
they were painting
1128
00:53:49,295 --> 00:53:51,124
that I was
his second-in-command.
1129
00:53:51,158 --> 00:53:53,816
I was a shot caller, as well.
1130
00:53:53,851 --> 00:53:55,232
That wasn't true.
1131
00:53:56,267 --> 00:53:59,822
I got found guilty on possession
to distribute cocaine,
1132
00:53:59,857 --> 00:54:01,859
money laundering.
1133
00:54:02,894 --> 00:54:04,931
I was sentenced
under a Kingpin Statute.
1134
00:54:04,965 --> 00:54:07,658
That made all the difference.
1135
00:54:07,692 --> 00:54:09,970
Over the years,
I would just reach out
1136
00:54:10,005 --> 00:54:11,524
to different advocacy groups.
1137
00:54:11,558 --> 00:54:12,973
They couldn't do anything
for me.
1138
00:54:13,008 --> 00:54:15,631
They told me that my case
was too high-profile,
1139
00:54:15,666 --> 00:54:17,564
and that it was too complicated.
1140
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:19,083
I was just spinning my wheels.
1141
00:54:19,117 --> 00:54:21,119
That I probably
would never get out.
1142
00:54:21,154 --> 00:54:24,191
REPORTER: President Clinton has
used his clemency powers rarely
1143
00:54:24,226 --> 00:54:26,021
when compared
to his predecessors.
1144
00:54:26,055 --> 00:54:28,851
ATTORNEY: There was a,
just a common thread
1145
00:54:28,886 --> 00:54:32,061
of non-controversial
commutations.
1146
00:54:32,096 --> 00:54:34,823
When I met Danielle
in August 2000,
1147
00:54:34,857 --> 00:54:37,204
I really believed
that, at some point,
1148
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,965
that she was going to be freed.
1149
00:54:38,999 --> 00:54:40,760
You need to get
political support
1150
00:54:40,794 --> 00:54:42,658
because it's
a political decision.
1151
00:54:42,693 --> 00:54:45,834
And Danielle's prosecutor
wasn't convinced
1152
00:54:45,868 --> 00:54:50,010
that Danielle Metz
was a battered wife.
1153
00:54:50,045 --> 00:54:51,805
She was going to oppose
Danielle getting clemency.
1154
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,671
There was the public story that
Danielle had punched Glenn Metz
1155
00:54:55,706 --> 00:54:58,225
in the courtroom
after the guilty verdict.
1156
00:54:58,260 --> 00:55:00,504
♪
1157
00:55:00,538 --> 00:55:02,437
MARILYN MITCHELL:
She seemed, for some reason,
1158
00:55:02,471 --> 00:55:03,886
amazed by the verdict.
1159
00:55:03,921 --> 00:55:05,336
REPORTER: Until
she started beating on him?
1160
00:55:05,371 --> 00:55:07,373
MITCHELL: That's correct, she
seemed to see,
1161
00:55:07,407 --> 00:55:08,788
to beat on her husband
1162
00:55:08,822 --> 00:55:13,344
and start attacking him
with her shackles.
1163
00:55:13,379 --> 00:55:16,313
Of course I was mad--
I just, you know, I...
1164
00:55:16,347 --> 00:55:17,555
I was shocked.
1165
00:55:17,590 --> 00:55:19,523
You know, I didn't know
how I was gonna react.
1166
00:55:19,557 --> 00:55:22,284
And I'm sure he didn't know how
I was gonna react, neither.
1167
00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:24,286
He didn't move or he didn't say,
"Well, why are you hitting me?"
1168
00:55:24,321 --> 00:55:27,462
Or...
I guess he was surprised, too.
1169
00:55:27,496 --> 00:55:29,602
You know, but...
1170
00:55:29,636 --> 00:55:31,017
People don't know.
1171
00:55:31,051 --> 00:55:33,640
You can't get mad with people
for not knowing.
1172
00:55:33,675 --> 00:55:36,988
Sometime, we don't know how
to get out of those situations.
1173
00:55:37,023 --> 00:55:42,166
You know? Because us, as women,
we want to be loved.
1174
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,652
It might be in the wrong way,
but we want to be loved.
1175
00:55:45,687 --> 00:55:47,654
You know? So...
1176
00:55:47,689 --> 00:55:49,622
They don't know.
1177
00:55:49,656 --> 00:55:51,555
They really don't know.
1178
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:53,246
They have no clue.
1179
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,110
ATTORNEY: I told her that,
"Look, I'm not going
1180
00:55:55,144 --> 00:55:57,008
"to forget about you,
1181
00:55:57,043 --> 00:56:00,943
"but commuting these drug cases
wasn't going to be
1182
00:56:00,978 --> 00:56:04,153
"the direction
the new incoming administration
1183
00:56:04,188 --> 00:56:07,018
would have towards clemency."
1184
00:56:07,053 --> 00:56:09,296
- I, George Walker Bush,
do solemnly swear...
1185
00:56:09,331 --> 00:56:11,782
METZ:
I was still there after so long.
1186
00:56:11,816 --> 00:56:13,024
Decades after decades...
1187
00:56:13,059 --> 00:56:14,819
[modem calling out]
1188
00:56:14,854 --> 00:56:16,959
...calendar after calendar,
year after year.
1189
00:56:16,994 --> 00:56:18,789
REPORTER:
New counts going on.
1190
00:56:18,823 --> 00:56:20,549
SOLDIER: Yo.
[guns firing]
1191
00:56:20,584 --> 00:56:22,137
REPORTER: The scene is
nothing short of apocalyptic.
1192
00:56:22,171 --> 00:56:23,345
[audience applauding]
1193
00:56:23,380 --> 00:56:25,382
METZ:
Missing every highlight
1194
00:56:25,416 --> 00:56:30,179
or every event or everything
of your kids' life.
1195
00:56:30,214 --> 00:56:34,874
How am I gonna get out
this place?
1196
00:56:34,908 --> 00:56:38,153
I've commuted the sentences
of dozens of people sentenced
1197
00:56:38,187 --> 00:56:41,225
under old drug laws that
we now recognize were unfair.
1198
00:56:41,259 --> 00:56:44,849
And yesterday, I announced
that I'm commuting dozens more.
1199
00:56:44,884 --> 00:56:46,644
[audience applauding
and cheering]
1200
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:48,335
ATTORNEY: We sent a letter
to Kenneth Polite,
1201
00:56:48,370 --> 00:56:50,372
who is appointed
by President Obama
1202
00:56:50,407 --> 00:56:53,548
the U.S. attorney in the
Eastern District of Louisiana.
1203
00:56:53,582 --> 00:56:55,239
This is the potential key
1204
00:56:55,273 --> 00:56:56,689
that's gonna open
that prison door.
1205
00:56:56,723 --> 00:57:01,487
He agreed to write
a long letter on her behalf.
1206
00:57:01,521 --> 00:57:03,868
POLITE:
"Ms. Metz has now spent
1207
00:57:03,903 --> 00:57:06,250
"almost half her life in prison,
1208
00:57:06,284 --> 00:57:08,148
"and we do not believe
that she merits
1209
00:57:08,183 --> 00:57:11,600
"spending the rest of her life
in prison.
1210
00:57:11,635 --> 00:57:14,948
"Nor do we believe that
she poses any meaningful risk
1211
00:57:14,983 --> 00:57:17,226
"to public safety.
1212
00:57:17,261 --> 00:57:20,575
"Accordingly, my office
supports President Obama
1213
00:57:20,609 --> 00:57:26,477
"granting Ms. Metz's application
for a commutation of sentence.
1214
00:57:26,512 --> 00:57:29,894
"Respectfully submitted,
Kenneth Polite, Jr.,
1215
00:57:29,929 --> 00:57:33,691
United States Attorney for the
Eastern District of Louisiana."
1216
00:57:33,726 --> 00:57:35,900
Everyone agreed that this was,
1217
00:57:35,935 --> 00:57:37,454
if not the most worthy,
1218
00:57:37,488 --> 00:57:39,801
then certainly
a worthy candidate
1219
00:57:39,835 --> 00:57:42,320
for a commutation consideration.
1220
00:57:42,355 --> 00:57:44,564
Danielle was charged,
essentially,
1221
00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:46,428
under a Kingpin Statute,
1222
00:57:46,463 --> 00:57:50,294
uh, in, at the time of
her indictment and trial.
1223
00:57:50,328 --> 00:57:53,090
All of the evidence in the case,
1224
00:57:53,124 --> 00:57:56,231
uh, suggests that
she certainly was not that,
1225
00:57:56,265 --> 00:57:59,683
that the charge itself
was not an appropriate one.
1226
00:57:59,717 --> 00:58:04,273
She does not need to spend
another day in prison.
1227
00:58:04,308 --> 00:58:06,172
METZ: It had started
to play on my mind,
1228
00:58:06,206 --> 00:58:07,484
like, so many people
was leaving,
1229
00:58:07,518 --> 00:58:10,901
and I was still there
after so long.
1230
00:58:10,935 --> 00:58:13,490
Nobody told me anything,
but in my spirit,
1231
00:58:13,524 --> 00:58:17,114
I just started packing
all my things.
1232
00:58:17,148 --> 00:58:19,185
A friend of mine came
to my room, and she's, like,
1233
00:58:19,219 --> 00:58:21,670
"What you doing?"
I said, "I'm leaving here."
1234
00:58:21,705 --> 00:58:24,190
"Leaving? Where you going?"
1235
00:58:24,224 --> 00:58:26,054
I was, like, "I'm going home."
1236
00:58:26,088 --> 00:58:27,987
And I went to
the gospel show that night,
1237
00:58:28,021 --> 00:58:30,058
and I was sitting
in the back of the church.
1238
00:58:30,092 --> 00:58:31,611
And they were talking
about a breakthrough.
1239
00:58:31,646 --> 00:58:33,613
And that was the sermon,
like, the beginning of the end.
1240
00:58:33,648 --> 00:58:37,583
And this is when
you're going to have a new life.
1241
00:58:37,617 --> 00:58:43,761
I was so drained and weary
and just tired of,
1242
00:58:43,796 --> 00:58:46,764
tired of being there.
1243
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:50,181
I just cried and cried and
cried and cried all that night.
1244
00:58:50,216 --> 00:58:53,046
I cried like never before,
and I prayed, and I cried,
1245
00:58:53,081 --> 00:58:54,945
and I prayed,
and I cried.
1246
00:58:54,979 --> 00:58:57,257
And when I woke up that morning,
1247
00:58:57,292 --> 00:58:59,605
and I got up to start my day,
1248
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:01,848
it felt like a weight
had been lifted off of me,
1249
00:59:01,883 --> 00:59:04,402
like I was just free.
1250
00:59:04,437 --> 00:59:06,059
I think it was, like, a day
or two days later,
1251
00:59:06,094 --> 00:59:07,578
I heard my lawyer voice
on the phone.
1252
00:59:07,613 --> 00:59:10,132
He was, like, "Danielle,
you're gonna be going home."
1253
00:59:10,167 --> 00:59:12,134
Oh, my God,
and when he said that,
1254
00:59:12,169 --> 00:59:14,274
I just screamed
like I never screamed before.
1255
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:16,518
I guess all the pain
that I've ever...
1256
00:59:16,553 --> 00:59:18,382
All the stuff that I was
bottling up all them years,
1257
00:59:18,416 --> 00:59:20,004
that I couldn't cry
when my mom came...
1258
00:59:20,039 --> 00:59:21,730
- Oh, man.
[laughing]
1259
00:59:21,765 --> 00:59:24,112
METZ: I just dropped the phone.
1260
00:59:24,146 --> 00:59:25,976
[laughing]
1261
00:59:28,461 --> 00:59:29,911
Mama!
1262
00:59:29,945 --> 00:59:31,395
BARBARA BERNARD:
Hey.
1263
00:59:31,429 --> 00:59:34,432
- Who said-- hey!
- Hey!
1264
00:59:35,295 --> 00:59:37,539
[unintelligible] back!
1265
00:59:37,574 --> 00:59:41,785
- All right, let me see you.
- [crying]
1266
00:59:41,819 --> 00:59:43,752
What are you crying for?
1267
00:59:43,787 --> 00:59:45,271
You're home now.
1268
00:59:45,305 --> 00:59:48,136
All the crying is over.
1269
00:59:48,170 --> 00:59:51,173
All the good times
gonna start for me and you.
1270
00:59:51,208 --> 00:59:52,934
[crying]
1271
00:59:52,968 --> 00:59:54,314
Why are you crying?
1272
00:59:54,349 --> 00:59:56,731
Aren't you happy to see me?
1273
00:59:56,765 --> 01:00:02,115
[sobbing]
1274
01:00:10,054 --> 01:00:13,195
[phone calling out]
1275
01:00:13,230 --> 01:00:15,094
METZ: Hello?
1276
01:00:15,128 --> 01:00:17,027
IESHA TYLER [over phone]:
Hey, Ms. Danielle.
1277
01:00:17,061 --> 01:00:18,960
Hey, how you doing?
1278
01:00:18,994 --> 01:00:20,962
I'm doing good. How are you?
1279
01:00:20,996 --> 01:00:22,549
I'm fine.
1280
01:00:22,584 --> 01:00:26,139
Um, I know your mama had
told you a little bit about me,
1281
01:00:26,174 --> 01:00:28,072
and I had been talking
to your brother, um,
1282
01:00:28,107 --> 01:00:30,005
just, you know, telling him, um,
1283
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,870
basically
that I want to try to assist
1284
01:00:32,905 --> 01:00:34,700
with, uh, getting
your mother home.
1285
01:00:34,734 --> 01:00:36,598
Absolutely.
1286
01:00:36,633 --> 01:00:38,186
- Your mom was
a very integral part
1287
01:00:38,220 --> 01:00:40,671
of my life in prison,
and I just recently
1288
01:00:40,706 --> 01:00:44,295
got another job
in this organization centered
1289
01:00:44,330 --> 01:00:47,057
around ending incarceration
of women and girls.
1290
01:00:47,091 --> 01:00:48,852
That is the mission.
1291
01:00:48,886 --> 01:00:53,201
And so the first person I
thought about was your mother.
1292
01:00:53,235 --> 01:00:55,582
- Welcome!
- Hey!
1293
01:00:55,617 --> 01:00:57,999
- Hi, Ms. Danielle, hey.
- Oh, my God.
1294
01:00:58,033 --> 01:00:59,517
Team Pam, I'm loving it.
1295
01:00:59,552 --> 01:01:01,312
I, I love this.
Thank you, Ms. Danielle.
1296
01:01:01,347 --> 01:01:02,624
Now, I hope it fits, 'cause...
1297
01:01:02,659 --> 01:01:05,834
TYLER: To know
that God did it for you,
1298
01:01:05,869 --> 01:01:07,698
I'm definitely believing
that He's going to do it
1299
01:01:07,733 --> 01:01:09,458
for my mother, as well,
and that, like,
1300
01:01:09,493 --> 01:01:13,048
that makes me feel
so excited and happy,
1301
01:01:13,083 --> 01:01:16,293
because we are making steps
towards her being liberated.
1302
01:01:16,327 --> 01:01:18,433
It's a lot of work to be done.
1303
01:01:18,467 --> 01:01:21,712
And, you know, I don't,
I can't give you any false hope,
1304
01:01:21,747 --> 01:01:24,508
but long as you know I'm doing
something, and I'm keeping
1305
01:01:24,542 --> 01:01:26,959
- Miss Pam's name alive...
- Yeah.
1306
01:01:26,993 --> 01:01:29,927
- ...that means that, hey,
we're bringing awareness to her.
1307
01:01:29,962 --> 01:01:33,551
And just seeing you here, it's
kind of taking me somewhere,
1308
01:01:33,586 --> 01:01:35,830
because I'm thinking
about my daughter.
1309
01:01:35,864 --> 01:01:37,176
Yeah.
1310
01:01:37,210 --> 01:01:38,798
- So, if you don't mind me
just asking you,
1311
01:01:38,833 --> 01:01:41,421
uh, how, how do it feel,
because I, I don't...
1312
01:01:41,456 --> 01:01:42,802
I've asked Gleneisha sometimes,
1313
01:01:42,837 --> 01:01:46,116
but sometimes
I can't bring myself to...
1314
01:01:46,150 --> 01:01:47,565
I'd rather pretend like,
1315
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,257
"I'm here now, that's all
you need to worry about."
1316
01:01:49,291 --> 01:01:50,672
- Mm-hmm.
- But I know it's something
1317
01:01:50,707 --> 01:01:53,675
that, it's not that easy
for her,
1318
01:01:53,710 --> 01:01:55,228
- because I've been absent...
- Yeah.
1319
01:01:55,263 --> 01:01:57,161
...for all that time.
1320
01:01:57,196 --> 01:01:58,853
I'm gonna be honest with you.
1321
01:01:58,887 --> 01:02:01,441
Like, if my mom came home, I
want to have that conversation,
1322
01:02:01,476 --> 01:02:04,859
because you have to take my
feelings in consideration
1323
01:02:04,893 --> 01:02:08,517
as far as, like, how I feel,
1324
01:02:08,552 --> 01:02:12,142
and why I've been
emotionally scarred
1325
01:02:12,176 --> 01:02:15,179
by, you know,
my mother's absence.
1326
01:02:15,214 --> 01:02:17,319
And some conversations,
sad as it may be,
1327
01:02:17,354 --> 01:02:20,598
some conversations can't be had
between you and your daughter,
1328
01:02:20,633 --> 01:02:23,878
because of the sake of the,
you know, relationship,
1329
01:02:23,912 --> 01:02:25,362
you know, and to be honest,
1330
01:02:25,396 --> 01:02:27,951
because from
a daughter's perspective,
1331
01:02:27,985 --> 01:02:31,471
if I really, really told you
how I felt, you know, with,
1332
01:02:31,506 --> 01:02:34,371
how I feel about my, my mother
being absent,
1333
01:02:34,405 --> 01:02:36,235
it probably would
hurt her real, real bad.
1334
01:02:36,269 --> 01:02:38,720
And, you know, it's, like,
that's not my goal, you know?
1335
01:02:38,755 --> 01:02:40,308
- Right.
- And by me expressing that
1336
01:02:40,342 --> 01:02:42,862
to you, what justice
is it really going to do?
1337
01:02:42,897 --> 01:02:46,176
But I also want to be
transparent and tell you,
1338
01:02:46,210 --> 01:02:47,764
"Hey, I felt this affecting me,"
1339
01:02:47,798 --> 01:02:50,767
but, you know, I don't
want to have to, you know,
1340
01:02:50,801 --> 01:02:52,596
go in too deep
into the conversation,
1341
01:02:52,630 --> 01:02:56,703
because, like I said, some
things is better left unsaid.
1342
01:03:05,574 --> 01:03:11,408
[people talking in background]
1343
01:03:16,482 --> 01:03:18,242
METZ:
Today, I'm gonna be speaking,
1344
01:03:18,277 --> 01:03:20,417
standing in solidarity
1345
01:03:20,451 --> 01:03:23,489
with my friends
who's campaigning,
1346
01:03:23,523 --> 01:03:26,872
advocating for people
that we left behind.
1347
01:03:26,906 --> 01:03:28,287
So we are here
1348
01:03:28,321 --> 01:03:31,531
trying to get
the new administration
1349
01:03:31,566 --> 01:03:32,809
to change their policies,
1350
01:03:32,843 --> 01:03:34,638
to recognize
that we are human beings,
1351
01:03:34,672 --> 01:03:37,986
and at the end of the day,
how much time is enough time?
1352
01:03:38,021 --> 01:03:39,401
Like, when is enough?
1353
01:03:39,436 --> 01:03:44,613
You know, prison is
about rehabilitation.
1354
01:03:46,995 --> 01:03:48,686
WOMAN:
♪ Well, there ain't no harm
1355
01:03:48,721 --> 01:03:51,551
♪ With your mind
Come on!
1356
01:03:51,586 --> 01:03:55,245
♪ Staying on freedom
1357
01:03:55,279 --> 01:03:58,558
♪ You know,
there ain't no harm ♪
1358
01:03:58,593 --> 01:04:03,011
♪ Oh, no, staying on freedom
1359
01:04:03,046 --> 01:04:04,426
♪ I said there ain't no
1360
01:04:04,461 --> 01:04:05,772
[chanting]: Enough is enough!
[song continues]
1361
01:04:05,807 --> 01:04:08,637
- Free her!
- Enough is enough!
1362
01:04:08,672 --> 01:04:13,780
[chant and song continue]
1363
01:04:13,815 --> 01:04:15,610
♪ Hallelu
SINGERS: ♪ Hallelu
1364
01:04:15,644 --> 01:04:18,268
ALL: ♪ Hallelujah
1365
01:04:18,302 --> 01:04:19,786
ANDREA JAMES: Good afternoon!
1366
01:04:19,821 --> 01:04:21,823
Good afternoon!
1367
01:04:21,858 --> 01:04:24,550
JAMES: We're in
Washington, D.C., people!
1368
01:04:24,584 --> 01:04:26,793
National Council
for Incarcerated
1369
01:04:26,828 --> 01:04:29,624
and Formerly Incarcerated
Women and Girls
1370
01:04:29,658 --> 01:04:33,386
is committed
to abolishing incarceration
1371
01:04:33,421 --> 01:04:34,905
for women and girls.
1372
01:04:34,940 --> 01:04:37,943
When we started this battle
for clemency
1373
01:04:37,977 --> 01:04:40,635
under President Obama's
administration,
1374
01:04:40,669 --> 01:04:43,396
we fought like hell.
1375
01:04:43,431 --> 01:04:44,915
We were able
to assist in bringing
1376
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:49,644
50 of our sisters out of
the depths of incarceration.
1377
01:04:49,678 --> 01:04:51,232
[audience cheers and applauds]
1378
01:04:51,266 --> 01:04:55,408
Many of those sisters were
serving life with no parole.
1379
01:04:55,443 --> 01:04:59,240
I invite,
to say a few words to you,
1380
01:04:59,274 --> 01:05:01,759
our own dear Danielle Metz.
1381
01:05:01,794 --> 01:05:03,209
WOMAN: That's right!
JAMES: Danielle was
1382
01:05:03,244 --> 01:05:06,868
the last sister
that we were able to push out
1383
01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:09,146
before
that administration ended.
1384
01:05:09,181 --> 01:05:11,079
Danielle Metz.
1385
01:05:11,114 --> 01:05:13,461
[cheering and applauding]
1386
01:05:13,495 --> 01:05:16,326
METZ: Free her!
CROWD: Free her!
1387
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:17,327
METZ:
Free her!
1388
01:05:17,361 --> 01:05:18,673
CROWD: Free her!
1389
01:05:18,707 --> 01:05:20,571
METZ: Free her!
CROWD: Free her!
1390
01:05:20,606 --> 01:05:21,918
METZ:
We have a lot of work to do.
1391
01:05:21,952 --> 01:05:25,749
But this is a small feat
for our president.
1392
01:05:25,783 --> 01:05:27,993
- WOMAN: Yes!
- A very small feat,
1393
01:05:28,027 --> 01:05:30,616
because he don't have
to go to the Supreme Court.
1394
01:05:30,650 --> 01:05:31,893
WOMAN: That's right!
1395
01:05:31,928 --> 01:05:33,515
- He don't have to go
to Congress.
1396
01:05:33,550 --> 01:05:36,070
The power is in the presidency.
1397
01:05:36,104 --> 01:05:40,246
I know what it feels like
to be separated from a family.
1398
01:05:40,281 --> 01:05:43,215
I know how it feels sitting
in a fetus position,
1399
01:05:43,249 --> 01:05:45,355
begging and pleading with God,
1400
01:05:45,389 --> 01:05:47,667
"Give me one more chance."
1401
01:05:47,702 --> 01:05:50,532
I am home, but I am not free.
1402
01:05:50,567 --> 01:05:53,915
I am not free
because my sisters are not free.
1403
01:05:53,950 --> 01:05:58,471
ALL [chanting]: Free her.
Free her. Free her. Free her.
1404
01:05:58,506 --> 01:06:00,957
Free her.
Free her. Free her.
1405
01:06:00,991 --> 01:06:04,305
[crowd continues chant]
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
1406
01:06:04,339 --> 01:06:06,997
[crowd cheering and applauding]
1407
01:06:13,383 --> 01:06:18,353
♪
1408
01:06:31,711 --> 01:06:33,817
METZ: Good morning, Andrea.
How you doing?
1409
01:06:33,851 --> 01:06:36,164
JAMES [on computer]:
Morning, Dani. Good to see you.
1410
01:06:36,199 --> 01:06:40,306
- I was calling because I
wanted to discuss Ms. Pam Tyler,
1411
01:06:40,341 --> 01:06:44,138
the lady that, uh, I told you
that I did time with in Dublin.
1412
01:06:44,172 --> 01:06:45,863
Yes.
1413
01:06:45,898 --> 01:06:50,075
Unfortunately, President Biden
has not acted upon our request
1414
01:06:50,109 --> 01:06:51,766
to release 100 women.
1415
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,045
In Ms. Pam's case, I think that
we're really gonna have to
1416
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,461
engage with Catherine
in our legal division
1417
01:06:57,496 --> 01:07:01,914
to make a determination as to
what other inroads we can take,
1418
01:07:01,948 --> 01:07:05,124
legally,
to try and reduce her sentence,
1419
01:07:05,159 --> 01:07:07,368
or to get compassionate release,
or to do something
1420
01:07:07,402 --> 01:07:12,890
other than, uh, just hanging
our hat on clemency.
1421
01:07:12,925 --> 01:07:15,065
Okay. Um, I know that, um,
1422
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:17,585
Ms. Catherine was talking
about the students,
1423
01:07:17,619 --> 01:07:19,242
so do you think I should, uh,
1424
01:07:19,276 --> 01:07:21,106
the students that are gonna
be working on different cases,
1425
01:07:21,140 --> 01:07:24,212
uh, would that be okay with you
if I submit that
1426
01:07:24,247 --> 01:07:27,733
to, you know, uh, Ms. Catherine,
1427
01:07:27,767 --> 01:07:29,183
- and start the process?
- I think that that's...
1428
01:07:29,217 --> 01:07:31,392
I think that that's-- yes.
1429
01:07:31,426 --> 01:07:36,880
I think that's best next steps,
um, in this, in this, uh, case.
1430
01:07:36,914 --> 01:07:39,710
That, and I think it would be
a great case for the students.
1431
01:07:39,745 --> 01:07:42,472
- Our cases
are very complicated.
1432
01:07:42,506 --> 01:07:45,923
You know, we don't ever want to
go back and revisit that stuff.
1433
01:07:45,958 --> 01:07:48,443
The women on the inside,
they don't know the first thing
1434
01:07:48,478 --> 01:07:50,135
to do to start getting help.
1435
01:07:50,169 --> 01:07:53,552
And a lot of time, they feel
like they're forgotten about.
1436
01:07:54,449 --> 01:07:55,657
There's a heaviness
1437
01:07:55,692 --> 01:07:58,626
- that hangs over women's prisons.
- Right.
1438
01:07:58,660 --> 01:08:00,731
You can very easily feel like
1439
01:08:00,766 --> 01:08:03,458
you're gonna get lost
in that system,
1440
01:08:03,493 --> 01:08:06,461
even if you have an out date.
1441
01:08:08,153 --> 01:08:11,156
You know, our work, also, is to
call these things into question.
1442
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:14,124
METZ: When you're in prison
and you can't educate yourself,
1443
01:08:14,159 --> 01:08:15,815
it's easy for you
to go back to the things
1444
01:08:15,850 --> 01:08:16,851
that landed you there.
1445
01:08:16,885 --> 01:08:18,335
But when you're educated...
1446
01:08:18,370 --> 01:08:20,510
JAMES: Now, what kind of country
takes a young mother
1447
01:08:20,544 --> 01:08:23,720
like you were, with two babies
1448
01:08:23,754 --> 01:08:27,931
at home,
and come up with a sentence
1449
01:08:27,965 --> 01:08:29,726
that isn't just a life sentence,
1450
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,797
but three life sentences?
1451
01:08:31,831 --> 01:08:34,455
We have to really pause.
1452
01:08:34,489 --> 01:08:36,698
We have to really ask ourselves,
1453
01:08:36,733 --> 01:08:39,045
"What are we doing here
1454
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,048
"as the most incarcerated
country on the planet?
1455
01:08:42,083 --> 01:08:45,880
What is the expected outcome?"
1456
01:08:45,914 --> 01:08:47,399
AYANNA PRESSLEY:
When this country
1457
01:08:47,433 --> 01:08:49,677
incarcerates Black women,
their entire family suffers,
1458
01:08:49,711 --> 01:08:52,645
resulting in
long-term destabilization
1459
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,647
and intergenerational trauma.
1460
01:08:54,682 --> 01:08:58,410
And we must do everything
we can to dismantle
1461
01:08:58,444 --> 01:09:00,377
this carceral system.
1462
01:09:00,412 --> 01:09:04,036
Free her.
CROWD: Free her!
1463
01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:10,594
♪
1464
01:09:31,753 --> 01:09:34,515
You talk to your grandma today?
1465
01:09:34,549 --> 01:09:36,241
- Uh, two days ago.
- Oh.
1466
01:09:36,275 --> 01:09:38,208
- Two days ago.
- She back? She home?
1467
01:09:38,243 --> 01:09:40,417
- Yeah, she made it.
She's-- she, uh, she made it.
1468
01:09:40,452 --> 01:09:41,936
I called her, she was asleep.
1469
01:09:41,970 --> 01:09:45,077
She was just getting up,
probably an hour ago, yeah,
1470
01:09:45,111 --> 01:09:47,217
so she made it back,
the house is back in order.
1471
01:09:47,252 --> 01:09:49,426
- I told you I'm gonna
be off probation now.
1472
01:09:49,461 --> 01:09:51,394
Soon, huh? Walking down...
1473
01:09:51,428 --> 01:09:53,050
Remember what I was telling you
about your five-year plan?
1474
01:09:53,085 --> 01:09:54,431
And you was, like, "Five years?"
1475
01:09:54,466 --> 01:09:56,019
I'm, like, "Mom,
five years is, like, nothing."
1476
01:09:56,053 --> 01:09:57,676
- Ooh, I'm so happy.
- Here we go.
1477
01:09:57,710 --> 01:09:59,678
- Five years.
- I'm so happy, baby.
1478
01:09:59,712 --> 01:10:01,335
I'm gonna be getting
on a plane...
1479
01:10:01,369 --> 01:10:02,577
Well, you already
1480
01:10:02,612 --> 01:10:03,613
- been on a plane.
- ...just doing whatever
1481
01:10:03,647 --> 01:10:04,924
I want to do-- yeah.
1482
01:10:04,959 --> 01:10:06,236
Like 90 going west.
1483
01:10:06,271 --> 01:10:07,375
- All these different places
I went to.
1484
01:10:07,410 --> 01:10:08,583
Exactly.
1485
01:10:08,618 --> 01:10:10,689
- All the way from Dublin
to here
1486
01:10:10,723 --> 01:10:11,828
to there to there to there.
1487
01:10:11,862 --> 01:10:14,589
- I ain't done yet.
- Exactly.
1488
01:10:14,624 --> 01:10:16,695
Yep, that's dope.
I'm just really now happy
1489
01:10:16,729 --> 01:10:18,179
to be able to just really,
like, see you,
1490
01:10:18,214 --> 01:10:21,009
you know, just come into
your own, and just really,
1491
01:10:21,044 --> 01:10:22,563
like, seeing, like, how you is
really,
1492
01:10:22,597 --> 01:10:23,909
like, well, humanity as a whole,
1493
01:10:23,943 --> 01:10:25,462
like, you just give
1494
01:10:25,497 --> 01:10:27,223
and do things for other people
and be a certain way.
1495
01:10:27,257 --> 01:10:29,811
I think that was something
for me to really see,
1496
01:10:29,846 --> 01:10:31,296
you know, like,
just the action of it.
1497
01:10:31,330 --> 01:10:33,021
Not you saying it,
which you never said it,
1498
01:10:33,056 --> 01:10:34,264
but you just really doing it.
1499
01:10:34,299 --> 01:10:35,507
- Mm-hmm.
- Really, like, I think that
1500
01:10:35,541 --> 01:10:36,749
was something that, uh,
1501
01:10:36,784 --> 01:10:40,063
that I really needed to see.
1502
01:10:48,140 --> 01:10:51,143
[women talking indistinctly]
1503
01:10:59,358 --> 01:11:00,601
[exclaims]
1504
01:11:00,635 --> 01:11:02,534
[babbling]
1505
01:11:02,568 --> 01:11:04,536
Let me help you.
1506
01:11:04,570 --> 01:11:07,297
[Victory babbling]
1507
01:11:07,332 --> 01:11:08,505
Okay, now go.
1508
01:11:08,540 --> 01:11:11,646
- [murmuring]:
Oh, let her do her pictures.
1509
01:11:11,681 --> 01:11:13,165
[Victory babbling]
1510
01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:16,962
HAYTER: My kids
feel very close to my mom.
1511
01:11:19,275 --> 01:11:21,000
[Victory gasps]
METZ: Wait, wait, wait.
1512
01:11:21,035 --> 01:11:22,623
HAYTER:
Seeing them with my mom
1513
01:11:22,657 --> 01:11:23,934
is a little bittersweet.
1514
01:11:23,969 --> 01:11:25,695
- You love Granny?
Give Granny a hug.
1515
01:11:25,729 --> 01:11:27,662
Come here, give me a hug.
1516
01:11:27,697 --> 01:11:29,077
Give me a hug.
1517
01:11:29,112 --> 01:11:30,769
Tell them who you love.
1518
01:11:30,803 --> 01:11:32,840
[Victory babbling]
1519
01:11:32,874 --> 01:11:36,015
HAYTER: I just started
talking to a therapist
1520
01:11:36,050 --> 01:11:38,880
and trying to get counseling,
1521
01:11:38,915 --> 01:11:41,158
talking about our problems.
1522
01:11:41,193 --> 01:11:44,403
That's kind of, like,
a taboo topic.
1523
01:11:44,438 --> 01:11:46,129
[kids talking in background]
1524
01:11:46,163 --> 01:11:49,926
We don't talk about our issues,
we just try to push through
1525
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:53,826
and survive
and maneuver around them.
1526
01:11:53,861 --> 01:11:57,865
♪ Happy birthday to you
1527
01:11:57,899 --> 01:12:01,731
♪ Happy birthday
to you ♪
1528
01:12:01,765 --> 01:12:06,494
♪ Happy birthday, dear Granny
1529
01:12:06,529 --> 01:12:10,498
♪ Happy birthday to you
1530
01:12:10,533 --> 01:12:14,053
HAYTER:
Sometimes, looking at my kids
1531
01:12:14,088 --> 01:12:17,471
kind of reminds me of
where my life could have been.
1532
01:12:17,505 --> 01:12:20,232
Yay!
1533
01:12:20,266 --> 01:12:21,854
HAYTER:
Victory just turned four.
1534
01:12:21,889 --> 01:12:25,202
I was just turning four
when my mom went in.
1535
01:12:25,237 --> 01:12:26,618
VICTORY:
I want cake, I want cake.
1536
01:12:26,652 --> 01:12:28,205
I'm about to start slicing.
1537
01:12:29,793 --> 01:12:31,243
Who want cake?
CHILD: Ooh!
1538
01:12:31,277 --> 01:12:33,383
HAYTER:
Oh, that's too big for them.
1539
01:12:33,418 --> 01:12:35,109
WOMAN:
I thought this was for them.
1540
01:12:35,143 --> 01:12:38,008
CHILD:
No, Victory, you got one.
1541
01:12:38,043 --> 01:12:40,183
[kids talking in background]
1542
01:12:40,217 --> 01:12:44,256
HAYTER [voiceover]:
It's bittersweet.
1543
01:12:44,290 --> 01:12:47,777
[kids talking in background]
1544
01:12:47,811 --> 01:12:53,783
♪
1545
01:12:56,337 --> 01:12:57,545
[phone ringing]
1546
01:12:57,580 --> 01:12:59,167
METZ:
Hello?
1547
01:12:59,202 --> 01:13:00,997
TYLER [over phone]:
Hey, Ms. Metz.
1548
01:13:01,031 --> 01:13:02,378
Hey, what's going on?
1549
01:13:02,412 --> 01:13:05,070
- Oh, my goodness,
you will not believe.
1550
01:13:05,104 --> 01:13:07,521
They just said that my mother
is going to be released
1551
01:13:07,555 --> 01:13:10,386
on the 29th, so I need
to go down there,
1552
01:13:10,420 --> 01:13:14,148
get a flight, so I can
pick her up from the airport.
1553
01:13:14,182 --> 01:13:16,599
- Oh, my God,
I am so happy for you.
1554
01:13:16,633 --> 01:13:18,773
Ms. Pam ain't going to believe
this one right here.
1555
01:13:18,808 --> 01:13:20,465
The 29th of July?
1556
01:13:20,499 --> 01:13:24,261
- The 29th of July,
she'd be able to come home.
1557
01:13:24,296 --> 01:13:26,091
Having you on this journey
to help us
1558
01:13:26,125 --> 01:13:28,507
and to see it finally
come to pass, like...
1559
01:13:28,542 --> 01:13:29,750
Ooh!
1560
01:13:29,784 --> 01:13:31,268
I feel like I can breathe again.
1561
01:13:31,303 --> 01:13:32,925
- Team Pam.
TYLER: Team Pam!
1562
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,514
[chuckling]
1563
01:13:35,549 --> 01:13:36,964
High five.
1564
01:13:36,998 --> 01:13:39,311
[cheers softly]
1565
01:13:39,345 --> 01:13:40,450
Thank you, Jesus!
1566
01:13:40,485 --> 01:13:43,039
Oh, my goodness,
this is so surreal.
1567
01:13:43,073 --> 01:13:44,523
Oh, my goodness.
1568
01:13:44,558 --> 01:13:46,318
Mmm.
1569
01:13:48,872 --> 01:13:52,048
- It must be coming,
I see those flags.
1570
01:13:52,082 --> 01:13:54,084
Acting like America is America.
1571
01:13:54,119 --> 01:13:56,535
Baby, please.
1572
01:13:56,570 --> 01:13:58,710
Oh, I hate this place.
1573
01:13:58,744 --> 01:14:00,574
I ain't lying.
1574
01:14:00,608 --> 01:14:05,130
That truck is the truck
that watches the institution.
1575
01:14:05,164 --> 01:14:07,028
It rides all the way around
all the time.
1576
01:14:07,063 --> 01:14:08,478
- Mmm.
- It just keep riding around,
1577
01:14:08,513 --> 01:14:10,135
riding around.
1578
01:14:10,169 --> 01:14:11,792
I guess for security purposes,
1579
01:14:11,826 --> 01:14:13,276
- whatever that might be.
- Right.
1580
01:14:13,310 --> 01:14:15,002
- And, like,
who gonna jump over a fence?
1581
01:14:15,036 --> 01:14:17,453
- Are they Superman?
- Right.
1582
01:14:19,178 --> 01:14:20,283
Did she say she was coming out?
1583
01:14:20,317 --> 01:14:21,664
- She in the back.
- Oh.
1584
01:14:21,698 --> 01:14:23,044
- She said,
[unintelligible] she just saw.
1585
01:14:23,079 --> 01:14:24,011
She said, "Yeah!"
[car door closes]
1586
01:14:24,045 --> 01:14:25,495
She, she got the picture.
1587
01:14:25,530 --> 01:14:28,015
We was in the wrong spot.
1588
01:14:28,049 --> 01:14:33,745
♪
1589
01:14:33,779 --> 01:14:37,231
- [crying, whispering]:
Oh, thank you, Jesus.
1590
01:14:40,752 --> 01:14:44,376
[sniffles]
1591
01:14:44,410 --> 01:14:47,621
You all right.
1592
01:14:47,655 --> 01:14:52,902
It's over now-- like my mama
told me, it's over now.
1593
01:14:52,936 --> 01:14:57,527
[crying]
1594
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,877
[breathes deeply]
1595
01:15:10,954 --> 01:15:17,374
[both crying, murmuring]
1596
01:15:19,722 --> 01:15:21,689
TYLER:
Oh, my goodness.
1597
01:15:21,724 --> 01:15:25,762
[crying]
1598
01:15:25,797 --> 01:15:27,488
I'm sorry.
1599
01:15:27,523 --> 01:15:30,215
METZ [crying]: Oh, Ms. Pam,
I'm so happy to see you.
1600
01:15:30,249 --> 01:15:34,288
God is so good.
1601
01:15:34,322 --> 01:15:36,186
[kisses]
1602
01:15:36,221 --> 01:15:38,741
We love you, Ms. Pam.
MS. PAM: I love you, too.
1603
01:15:38,775 --> 01:15:40,121
[all crying]
1604
01:15:40,156 --> 01:15:44,229
WOMAN [crying]:
I missed you!
1605
01:15:44,263 --> 01:15:45,748
[whimpering]:
Thank you!
1606
01:15:45,782 --> 01:15:47,473
METZ: You ready?
1607
01:15:47,508 --> 01:15:50,097
- MS. PAM: Yes.
- Come on.
1608
01:15:50,131 --> 01:15:55,378
♪
1609
01:16:11,808 --> 01:16:13,603
[Hayter grunts, Victory giggles]
1610
01:16:13,638 --> 01:16:15,087
HAYTER [voiceover]:
The dynamic
1611
01:16:15,122 --> 01:16:16,951
of a mother-and-daughter
relationship,
1612
01:16:16,986 --> 01:16:21,093
it can be
a little difficult at times.
1613
01:16:21,128 --> 01:16:24,338
Sometimes I'm not used
to certain comments
1614
01:16:24,372 --> 01:16:28,066
or expectations.
[Metz exclaiming]
1615
01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:30,586
METZ:
See, I merge one step at a time.
1616
01:16:30,620 --> 01:16:31,656
It's one step at a time.
1617
01:16:31,690 --> 01:16:34,072
How m... [unintelligible]
[baby babbles]
1618
01:16:36,177 --> 01:16:37,869
HAYTER:
It's on both sides
1619
01:16:37,903 --> 01:16:39,353
that we both have expectations
1620
01:16:39,387 --> 01:16:42,598
of one another
that probably aren't being met.
1621
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,462
METZ [voiceover]: If you have
been out of somebody's life
1622
01:16:45,497 --> 01:16:49,156
23 years, that's how long
it probably take
1623
01:16:49,190 --> 01:16:51,192
to get things back to normal.
1624
01:16:52,297 --> 01:16:54,817
Two people getting to know
each other all over again
1625
01:16:54,851 --> 01:16:56,232
is just, uh...
1626
01:16:56,266 --> 01:16:58,096
It, it's a lot.
1627
01:16:58,130 --> 01:17:00,063
I know you've been
through things,
1628
01:17:00,098 --> 01:17:01,858
things that I don't know about,
1629
01:17:01,893 --> 01:17:03,411
but I'm very proud of you.
1630
01:17:03,446 --> 01:17:05,310
I'm proud of the mother you are.
1631
01:17:05,344 --> 01:17:07,450
I'm proud of
the daughter you are.
1632
01:17:07,484 --> 01:17:11,316
And I might not say it to you
all the time,
1633
01:17:11,350 --> 01:17:16,355
but anybody that know me
know how I feel about my kids.
1634
01:17:16,390 --> 01:17:18,599
You or Carl
have never disappointed me.
1635
01:17:18,634 --> 01:17:23,604
No matter what, what I thought,
or when we have our bad days,
1636
01:17:23,639 --> 01:17:27,573
I'm always proud of you,
and I'm just thankful to God
1637
01:17:27,608 --> 01:17:31,025
that whatever you go through,
if you need me, I'm here.
1638
01:17:31,854 --> 01:17:33,925
A mother is the foundation
of the family,
1639
01:17:33,959 --> 01:17:37,722
but because of the choices
I made, it was derailed.
1640
01:17:37,756 --> 01:17:41,518
And, and that's one thing
that I really admire,
1641
01:17:41,553 --> 01:17:43,866
that your daughters won't
have to go through that
1642
01:17:43,900 --> 01:17:46,731
because of the decisions and
the way that you live your life.
1643
01:17:46,765 --> 01:17:49,975
I can't go back
and change anything.
1644
01:17:50,010 --> 01:17:54,117
You know? All I can do is be the
best person that I can be now.
1645
01:17:58,570 --> 01:18:01,642
♪
1646
01:18:11,790 --> 01:18:14,206
I know I could have done
some things different.
1647
01:18:15,276 --> 01:18:17,693
And maybe the outcome
would've been different.
1648
01:18:17,727 --> 01:18:20,247
[exclaiming softly]
1649
01:18:20,281 --> 01:18:24,596
METZ: We can't get back none of
that time-- the time is gone.
1650
01:18:25,493 --> 01:18:28,773
You know, we could build
from here-- I'm here.
1651
01:18:30,395 --> 01:18:34,537
And so, you know,
I'm just thankful.
1652
01:18:38,265 --> 01:18:40,060
"Danielle,
1653
01:18:40,094 --> 01:18:43,304
"Congratulation on
your graduation from Southern.
1654
01:18:43,339 --> 01:18:46,204
"I'm so proud of you.
1655
01:18:46,238 --> 01:18:47,895
"I'm confident
1656
01:18:47,930 --> 01:18:51,174
"that your example will have
a positive impact on others
1657
01:18:51,209 --> 01:18:55,420
"who are looking
for a second chance.
1658
01:18:55,454 --> 01:18:56,870
"Tell your children I say hello
1659
01:18:56,904 --> 01:19:00,011
"and know that I'm rooting
for all of you.
1660
01:19:00,045 --> 01:19:03,428
Sincerely, Barack Obama."
1661
01:19:03,462 --> 01:19:09,641
I have a purpose in life,
and now I'm evolving.
1662
01:19:10,469 --> 01:19:14,750
I'm sort of like
that rose from concrete.
1663
01:19:14,784 --> 01:19:17,891
When you incarcerated,
there's nothing but a whole lot
1664
01:19:17,925 --> 01:19:21,757
of steel, metal, and bricks.
1665
01:19:23,068 --> 01:19:25,381
The wall is just a wall.
1666
01:19:25,415 --> 01:19:27,452
It can be broken down.
1667
01:19:27,486 --> 01:19:30,420
When I'm fighting for the women
that are still inside,
1668
01:19:30,455 --> 01:19:32,768
I'll tell them that.
1669
01:19:32,802 --> 01:19:34,217
It's just a wall.
1670
01:19:34,252 --> 01:19:36,599
It can be broken down.
1671
01:19:40,430 --> 01:19:41,811
WOMAN: Beautiful!
1672
01:19:41,846 --> 01:19:46,851
Simply gorgeous--
my mother would be ecstatic.
1673
01:19:46,885 --> 01:19:51,338
Ecstatically happy,
as I'm sure she is.
1674
01:19:51,372 --> 01:19:53,927
She'll be saying,
"Don't cry, Danielle."
1675
01:19:53,961 --> 01:19:54,962
She would be, like,
1676
01:19:54,997 --> 01:19:56,136
"What you crying for, Boo?"
1677
01:19:56,170 --> 01:19:58,069
"What you crying for, Boo?"
1678
01:19:58,103 --> 01:19:59,449
She didn't believe in tears.
1679
01:19:59,484 --> 01:20:02,728
She's, like, you just do
what you got to do.
1680
01:20:02,763 --> 01:20:07,733
♪
1681
01:20:11,807 --> 01:20:16,397
WOMAN:
Danielle Bernard Metz.
1682
01:20:16,432 --> 01:20:19,504
[audience cheering
and applauding]
1683
01:20:19,538 --> 01:20:21,299
METZ:
I can be anything I want to be.
1684
01:20:21,333 --> 01:20:23,197
I can do anything
I want to do.
1685
01:20:23,232 --> 01:20:26,442
The sky is the limit for me.
1686
01:20:26,476 --> 01:20:27,892
And there's where I'm going.
1687
01:20:27,926 --> 01:20:30,446
I'm trying to break
the ceiling now.
1688
01:20:31,619 --> 01:20:33,104
[laughing and cheering]
1689
01:20:33,138 --> 01:20:35,554
METZ:
I'm on my life mission.
1690
01:20:38,454 --> 01:20:43,942
♪
1691
01:20:51,018 --> 01:20:52,433
♪ Don't you worry
1692
01:20:52,468 --> 01:20:54,021
♪ And don't you fret
1693
01:20:54,056 --> 01:20:55,609
♪ Better, better
1694
01:20:55,643 --> 01:21:00,338
♪ 'Cause I know God
ain't never failed me yet ♪
1695
01:21:00,372 --> 01:21:02,064
♪ Better, better
1696
01:21:02,098 --> 01:21:04,480
♪ He knows the plans
1697
01:21:04,514 --> 01:21:05,964
♪ He has for you
1698
01:21:05,999 --> 01:21:07,621
♪ Better, better
1699
01:21:07,655 --> 01:21:11,280
♪ And I believe He'll do
everything He said He would do ♪
1700
01:21:11,314 --> 01:21:14,076
♪ Better, better
1701
01:21:14,110 --> 01:21:17,424
♪ Better, better, better,
better, better, better ♪
1702
01:21:17,458 --> 01:21:21,458
♪ Better, better
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