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Hi. Vanessa.

I'm Dr. Brian.

I'm Rico. So nice to meet you.

Please go ahead and take a seat. Thank you.

So, what brings the two of you in today?

Well, our parents noticed some problems developing between us.

They said that we had to come to therapy.

kick it out so okay okay well you guys are in the right place um i fortunately

i do specialize in family um like well i suppose you could call it um before we

get started though i just wanted to um get your consent um as you can see here

do have a camera um it helps me um try to be a little bit more present to what

you guys are saying

so that I'm not having to take down notes, like, for everything, and, like,

just makes the sessions continue on a lot easier for you.

Does that make sense to you?

That's not going anywhere else, right? No, absolutely not. This is 100 % for

and I keep it very deep.

I mean, whatever works.

Yeah.

Well, so I suppose I should share with you a little bit about me, right?

So I went to FU University. So I've practiced an unconventional method, but

had a lot of success.

And I've been in practice for 10 years now.

Let's discuss some stuff about you guys.

Okay. You go first.

Well, I...

I like going to the beach.

I study in college.

I'm trying to be a marine biologist.

That's cool.

I like dolphins and I like women.

And there seems to be a complication with two because sometimes

someone seems to get in all my relationships. Because of the dolphins

women? The women.

I think you deserve better, though.

But it's like none of your business who I'm messing with.

I want what's best for you.

We're discussing things on an individual basis.

We'll get to this point.

But I like it. I can tell there's some spice that we can work out here.

Let Rico finish.

On the weekends, I go to clubs. I hang out with my friends, you know.

I just like to have fun.

You know, I'm a young college kid, you know.

Nice. How long have you been in school for?

Like two years.

Okay, okay. So you're finally getting into the flow of it.

I mean, it gets much more interesting at some point.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, very cool.

And now, like, are you living on campus, or where are you living?

No, I'm living with my parents right now, well, with our parents.

My dad recently married her mom.

How long ago?

I think that was, like, a couple of months ago. Oh, wow, without Fred.

Yeah. My dad married her mom, like, maybe around three.

Four years ago. Okay, okay.

So right at, like, high school and then you were going into college.

Yeah. So you guys had some time getting to know each other.

Yeah. All right.

All right.

And how is that working with, like, living at home and trying to find

in college and everything?

I mean, I'm having a breeze. I'm having fun with it. But, I

mean, there's some complications here and there.

But...

I don't know.

I want to get my own place soon, but... Yeah, what are the complications?

Her.

Okay, all right. Hold on, we'll get to you.

Can you elaborate what those complications are?

Well, like, I'll be in my room, and I'll have a girl over,

and all of a sudden, she needs something, and she has to interrupt,

Like, right when we're getting down to the good stuff, too, and it's just like,

come on, I'm just trying to have a college life. I'm trying to have fun,

know? And, you know, so come in with, like, my laundry or something and just

throw it at me. Okay, okay.

So, okay. But let's keep it a little bit more about you at this particular

moment, and we'll dive into the, like, the issues that you guys have between

each other.

But, okay, so you guys, you live together still, college, and some

going on, and ultimately that is what is bringing the two of you here today.

Yeah. So let's dive into that in a minute. Okay. And let's talk about you.

What do you want to know?

Since you live at home, are you going to school as well?

Yeah, I'm going to cosmetology school. Oh, nice. Okay. What do you want to

specialize in?

Coloring. Coloring.

Oh, I love it. Okay. All right. That is some chemistry.

Yeah. Okay.

All right. And then do you have any, like, particular hobbies or anything

you do or friends that you go and see?

Yeah, I have a lot of friends, girlfriends.

I go hiking with them, brunches, shopping, you know.

Okay. Okay.

And then since you guys live in the same house, how, like,

far would you guys say you guys are from each other's rooms?

Like right across from each other. Yeah, right across the hall. That's really

difficult. Okay, pretty cool.

Sometime. Okay, okay.

Alright, well it's always nice to save money and living with family too.

Um, hmm, okay.

Is there anything you want to tell me about yourself?

My brother is like the worst.

The worst?

He just never listens.

Okay. What is it that you try to tell him? I just try to get what's best for

him, but he just doesn't care. He wants what he wants.

He's just very stubborn.

Okay.

He's just stubborn. Why do you feel the need to give him advice?

Because, like, we're siblings, so, like, you know.

Does he ask for it?

No. Okay.

All right. I feel like he needs it, you know.

Yeah, you know, I think that, like, especially with young men, it can be

difficult to make very questionable decisions.

But, like, it can be a stress and a strain on the sibling dynamic if

it's not asked for.

I don't think it is, though. Like, he brings the wrong girls around. Like,

he can do so much better.

Okay, okay. I mean, Rico, how do you feel about that?

I mean, I don't know how I could do that much better. I mean, Julie had a fat

ass, and it was just... You see what I mean?

Yeah, okay.

Okay, so you're focusing on the physical attributes.

I'm in college. I'm just trying to have fun.

And I don't see anything wrong with that.

I mean, as long as you're being safe, right? You're being safe in the process.

Always. He does have the right to...

have a more casual encounter with women.

And this is the time for you guys to figure yourselves out.

Do you feel like you ever overstepped?

I think I just fine.

How do you feel, Nico?

There's definitely overstepping there.

Yeah. How do you feel that way?

Well, I mean, because you're always barging in my room at the wrong time.

just doing things.

You're talking to me. You don't want to hang out with me?

It's not that. Like, it's just that, you know, I'm busy, you know?

All right. All right. All right.

I'm going to guess that this is a lot more tame than what you guys normally go

through. Okay. Okay.

How, like, how do you feel, like, when, like, this tension comes up? Like, what

comes to mind for you?

There's no tension.

It's just, I don't know.

Complicated. It's complicated.

Okay.

So no tension.

I think that we're going to have to work a little bit harder at

this.

It's very difficult as a young adult to be self -aware.

And from an outside perspective, there certainly is some tension.

Perhaps unwarranted.

I mean, I don't know the professional term for it, but cock blocking.

And, like, which, it's okay, especially if he's making bad decisions. You know,

like, as a sibling, like, you do care for him. Yeah, I do care for him. It

sounds like he's being particularly, he's being safe about this.

Do you find your stepbrother to be attractive?

He is my stepbrother.

Yeah. I mean, I guess.

He's okay.

He's attractive.

Yeah. I guess.

Stepbrother, yeah.

Yeah. But he would be more attractive if he made better choices as a woman.

Again.

Again.

I have an idea.

I think let's work through.

what's going on on a different level rather than just talking about um well I

think that what you need is to get out of the space that you're in

and uh work through those feelings

appropriately I suppose uh Rico um I am

going to have you come here and stand in front of your

I mean, he's not a bad -looking gentleman.

And you guys met in high school when the two of you were

becoming more interested in the other gender, right?

I mean, get him.

And I would say he's, like, you are quite a handsome man.

Thank you. And, like, I'm sure that...

Good as you can possibly do.

So it's not like it's coming from the back, right?

Right. Yeah.

Go ahead and look at him.

Look at your brother.

Look at him. Appreciate him for who he is.

You don't have to be shy about this at all.

It's a different kind of relationship when, like, you guys meet each other

like, your hormones are surging.

And, like, it's just a very different relationship to be brought into the

like that, right?

True. So it's okay to find attraction in each other. I think that, like,

what I'm sensing from the two of you is that there's a tension.

I mean, you are very clearly disturbed that I'm touching him right now.

I don't know. Are you territorial with him?

No, I'm not.

You're not?

No. Okay.

All right.

Let's see what this goes on. Yeah.

So, you wouldn't mind if I

got closer to him?

Yeah, you would.

Is that what you need?

What is this about?

This is completely fine with me.

I am going to work on making you

more aware of your feelings and perhaps make it so that your relationship with

each other is not as hostile.

But, whatever you say.

So, now this is going to be a little bit uncomfortable.

And before we get started on this.

I really want you to, like, want this relationship to be a healthy

Like, are you invested in it?

I am.

Okay. Are you willing to put in the work? Because therapy isn't easy.

Yeah.

Okay. I love my brother, so yeah.

Yeah. No, I can feel that. That's why you care about the women that you're

involved with. Yeah.

So do you trust me to walk you through those?

I guess.

Okay.

So I want you two to have the relationship that you two are meant to

not have this hostility towards each other.

That sounds amazing.

Okay. And if at any time you are uncomfortable, you can tell me, okay?

Okay.

I'm going to push your comfort levels.

Okay.

Yeah. Whatever works.

All right.

Well, how do you feel?

Okay.

Use your words.

Tell me how you feel.

I'm fine.

I'm fine, too.

Is he in therapy?

I'm sure you're going to get in touch with him soon.

How do you feel?

You know what they say about the word fine?

It's a terrible word.

It's so disconnected from how you feel, for real.

There's more words there.

What is this, really?

This is not therapy. Why are you really recording?

What is this? This is not therapy, though.

I told you this was unconventional, but I'm very respectful.

Making sure that everyone comes together. I don't believe it. I think

working with me. This is what you always do.

You ruin things.

So, would you like to be involved?

No.

How do you feel right now, though? Are you feeling jealous?

Are you... She's always like this.

Then I'm going to initiate it. Actually, it's not his fault.

Does it bother you that he and I are intimately

touching and that I kiss him?

Yeah. Yeah?

What about that bothers you?

I don't know. He just could be doing better things than you.

Oh, than me.

He don't think that me, as a successful therapist, that he could do better than

me.

Um, we can actually.

Do you think that you're better?

No.

No? There's even better, but I might be. I don't know.

I think that, I think that you're plus me, right? Yeah.

Now, Rico, do you feel like she is interested in you?

Um, I do. Do you feel like that's where this jealousy is coming from?

It definitely feels jealous.

I'm not too sure.

I mean... You guys are still getting to know each other. Yeah.

I work with deaf siblings and deaf families, like, every day.

And this dynamic is very difficult. You two weren't related. You both came into

each other's lives while you were becoming, like, sexually aware.

And now here you guys are discovering yourselves.

So, what I'm seeing that's going on here...

is that you're attracted to your stepbrother, and you're

finding some pain and some jealousy while he is in the process of getting

to know himself, and it's making for your relationship to be a little bit

toxic.

Now, would you agree?

I mean, I guess.

I mean, what's holding you back?

Like, brother and sister.

Oh, yeah, I can see that that would be very difficult. But, I mean, you guys

brother and sister of a marriage, right? You're mom and you're dad.

Yeah. So, like, and in this space, it's a safe space.

There's no judgment on your feelings that are completely normal.

Like, you guys love each other when you're, like, becoming aware.

And, like, I'm completely human.

Okay. You're right.

Yeah.

So, what goes on in here never goes

outside of these doors.

I promise.

I promise.

I do.

And what I think would...

Do the two of you that is to explore what

you're feeling with each other so that you guys don't end up resenting and

hating each other in this process.

This is an opportunity for the two of you to explore your relationship with

each other.

What do you mean by that?

I think that the two of you need to...

Embrace what it is that you desire.

Holding back and ignoring it is destroying your relationship with each

Yeah, I guess.

I mean, she's a professional.

I want you to stand up and face your breakfast.

Why?

It's time to explore what you feel with them.

So this is where you guys don't have to have, like, any of your barriers or

boundaries of, like, what should be and what shouldn't be, right?

Let's just embrace what you feel.

Okay. When you find him attractive and you like him as a person, right?

You've got his brother.

Yeah, he's your stepbrother.

And you've gotten to know him very well.

Yeah. And how do you feel about her?

I mean, she's always.

really cool and, you know, we do have a lot of fun together.

And I guess you're kind of cute.

Yeah. Okay.

I think let's take that nervousness out of your arms and stop questioning

yourself.

You should embrace your brother.

You should touch him.

It's okay. It's okay. He's not going to, like, all of a sudden, like, fight you

or something.

Right? You're not going to just like, no, no, no. This is your brother. You've

lived with him. You've known him for four years now.

Yeah. And touch him.

Touch him.

Can you get closer?

Come on. Get closer. Get closer.

Okay.

Okay. There's no judgments here.

How does that feel?

Okay. Yeah?

You're so relieved, aren't you?

Yeah. Why are you holding back?

You know.

It's just my brother is different.

Have you been thinking about?

A little bit.

What have you been thinking about?

I don't know.

No judgments.

I think he is cute.

What would you do with a cute noun?

Step into my room.

Let's say this is your room.

What would you do in your room?

Look at cute now.

Yeah?

Yeah.

This is your room.

I don't know about that.

I think that he is more than willing to have you fuck his dick.

Oh, wow.

He's a bro.

He's a perv.

That's a little bit of both. The situation's kind of hot.

I mean, I get it, yeah.

Do you want to touch it?

Yeah.

Do you want to look at it?

Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to undo it?

Yeah.

Why don't you undo his pants?

Like that?

You know how to undo pants.

And then you can treat him like a cute man that you brought him to your place.

Touch him.

Touching like you would if you wanted to.

Mm -hmm.

Mm -hmm.

And you two are okay with this?

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

I'm very sure about this.

I think you should get yourself a little more comfortable.

I mean, you should get into the shoes of yours.

I don't know. I don't want to get undressed a little bit.

What are you going to do if you bring a cute noun to the fuck home? Are you

going to continue life -dressed and band -aid blankets with the lights off?

No. Are you going to take them home?

I guess.

I don't know.

I don't care. Let me make you a little bit more comfortable.

Show you that there is absolutely nothing wrong with being

naked.

I mean,

unless you're doing a quickie in the bathroom or something, and you're just,

like, pulling your pants down into the hole.

But you said this was your bedroom, right? Yeah.

All right.

Look at how your brother's dick

responds.

Tell her how you feel about this.

This.

Very attractive.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do you think that she's better than the women that you've been bringing to your

room? I mean, yeah.

I told you. Yeah.

I think that you guys should look at her.

Maybe take her bra off.

Rub that cover.

Treat her like the woman that she should be treating like.

What you should do with your brother.

Embrace his body.

Let him rub his body up against yours.

Touch his dick.

Get him nice and ready.

These kinds of things make me wet before I even take a piss.

Touch him.

Lean against him.

Don't be shy.

You've just been fantasizing about your brother sometimes.

Yeah.

I bet it hurt to watch all those girls that weren't your kind of time.

Yeah. Getting married.

Yeah. How does it feel to get married?

It feels good.

Yeah.

Do you want to go further?

I do.

Well, I don't want to go further.

I'm going to be asking you.

There you go. I think you should go now.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That'd be helpful.

That's good.

There's a solution.

Yeah. Pleasure to get more comfortable in the time.

Rico, how are you with going down with him?

Experience. Yeah,

he is. Have you thought of him going down with him?

Sometimes, yeah.

There are no changes.

I'm so good at it. You know, I'm good at it.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my gosh.

Yeah. Wow.

Oh, I think you're one of us kind.

I'm done.

Do you feel that tension between the two of you, Malcolm?

Mm -hmm.

Mm

-hmm.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Oh,

my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh,

my God.

I think those pants should come off. No more shorts.

See you on the region.

Thank you.

That's pretty nice.

It's like taking a shot when he deeps out.

Just open up your throat and let that go into the past.

How does that feel?

That's good.

Now you're going further.

Now try for more.

More? Try more.

I don't know.

It's crazy.

I don't know. That's what I need to do.

Just imagine taking a shot and he said you're taking that dick.

Mm -hmm. See how much room you've got? Mm -hmm. Yeah.

Mm -hmm.

Oh.

Shh. Oh, wow.

Mm -hmm.

Oh, wow.

I don't feel it.

Where do you feel your gut reflex in your chest? Right here.

Right here? Yeah, right there?

If you try to open it up and try to bend the ankle, it's probably hurting.

I don't think so. Try it.

There you go.

There you go. You went there.

You went pretty far.

Yeah. How do you want him to fuck you?

How I hate moms.

How do you want to fuck her?

Doggy style.

Doggy. Of course.

Okay.

I feel like you guys are making some...

You've got a lot of good products.

Yeah, in and out real good, yeah.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

But in my opinion, a missionary is the most intimate of positions, and you can

really dig into each other.

This way you can see each other's faces or communicate with her.

Oh, yeah.

Let me see how you can see each other's eyes.

It's so much harder when you're walking behind.

Oh, fuck yes.

Oh,

yes,

yes, yes, yes.

Let's see if you can control your hips.

Oh, it's fine. Would you split with us? Are you still alive?

Oh, my God, yes.

Oh, my God.

I need you guys to build up that intimacy.

You want me to help you? Yeah.

You want me to help you?

It's nice.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh,

my God, yeah.

Yes,

yes, yes.

If you have such an intimate relationship already, embrace that.

Take your time with that pussy.

Always wanting to fuck from behind and just like bang it out. Young men are so

predictable.

Treat that pussy with some love and respect. She's your sister.

I mean you have been difficult you can put some work into this one

I think he deserves your effort.

It does.

I don't want to fight back.

Should I face him now?

Do you want to see his face while you fight back?

Yeah.

That's a tight little cunt.

You might want to gesture it into your pussy.

There you go.

Oh, there we go.

I bet

you

if you ask him to fuck you.

Thank you. Thank you.

Do you feel a better bond with that person?

Are you feeling better about that?

Yeah. Are you feeling better about me now?

Yeah.

I think you deserve to be treated well.

You know?

Thank you.

That's our experience.

Yeah. I like that.

I like that I'm missing the position.

Yeah.

I think you should.

I think it's your turn to tell her what you feel about her.

I feel nice.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Tell her what you think of her.

I think she's very gorgeous.

Have you been thinking of fucking her?

A little.

Yeah. I guess I'm a little bit better at hiding it from you.

I don't think you don't hide it that well if you're bringing girls home for

to hear you.

How else am I going to get my message across?

Oh, you want to fuck her?

You could just fuck her.

Look at you being so considerate.

Oh, my God.

Oh,

that's so funny.

Fuck. Oh.

Yes, yes, yes. Fuck.

Oh, shit.

Oh.

Oh, fuck.

Oh, my.

Oh, you guys.

Oh, fuck.

Oh, hi. Thank you, guys. I'm having such a great time. Yeah.

Oh. You too.

Let's do two seal now.

Oh, my God.

This is definitely the best therapy session I've been to.