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Well, I think I was really fortunate
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that I got introduced to great writing,
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great drama, uh, great theater, first by
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my parents who were lovers of theater
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and lovers of film and music. And so I
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really got introduced to this at a very
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early age and got taken to the theater.
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Um, and then I got even luckier when I
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sort of was introduced to a series of
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teachers who became my mentors who then
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furthered that into specific kind of
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introductions to great writing. And it
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was being introduced to the writing of
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Tennessee Williams and Eugene O'Neal and
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Shakespeare and sort of discovering that
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I I felt uh a kind of immediate response
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to that kind of writing and then wanting
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to work on it and then wanting to sort
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of get up and perform it and um see what
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those kind of words could do uh to me as
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an actor. and then auditioning for
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Giuliard. And you know, you had to do
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monologues for that. You know, I
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remember I had to do a I did a monologue
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from a fellow. I played Iago
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and that audition was the hardest
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audition ever. I had to fly up to San
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Francisco to meet with Michael Langam
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who was the head of the department.
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Elizabeth Smith who ran the voice
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department
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and I think one other person was there.
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I can't remember who it was now. all of
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my teachers sort of at Giuliard start to
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blend into one another. Um but I
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remember that I had done this monologue
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where I had taken
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not just one monologue uh from Iago but
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I had taken sections of the play and I
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had strung it together and made a kind
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of overall arc of Iago so that you got a
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real sweep of his character and it was I
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thought it was really in inventive in a
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slightly different way of doing a
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monologue and I remember at the end of
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it when I finished it Michael Langgham
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who was a very officious British
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director who looked at you over the
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bridge of his glasses that were perched
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on his nose, usually disapprovingly.
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He looked over his glasses and he said
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to me, "Um,
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Kevin." I said, "Yes." He said,
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"Did you write that?"
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And I said, "Uh, no, that was that was
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Shakespeare." He said, "Oh, didn't
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recognize it."
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And then I remember Elizabeth Smith said
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uh when she was then critiquing my vocal
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qualities,
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she said, "Well,
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on the scale of the average, you sound
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like the end of a frayed rope."
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And I thought I was never going to get
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into Giuliard. And then surprisingly, I
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did. When I left Giuliard, my very very
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first job was playing a whole bunch of
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parts uh in the production of Henry Ford
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part one. Um that Mandy Pmpkin starred
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in and that Dez Mackenov directed and I
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you know I played a tavern person and a
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priest and a rock and a guard and you
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know and whatever they wanted me to
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play. Um and that was the greatest job
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in the world. Um because you know you
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got paid 12 bucks a week and you got to
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do Shakespeare in Central Park. It was
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the greatest job ever.
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I've been incredibly fortunate to
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um not only have had mentors uh but then
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to have been able to work with my
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mentors professionally. Um and the first
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and the most important to me was Jack
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Lemon. Um Jack Lemon was my idol when I
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was growing up. I just loved his movies
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and he seemed to be able to do
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everything um comedy, drama, musicals. I
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mean, he was just uh one of the most
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extraordinary all-around performers
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uh that that we have ever produced. And
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um one of the great things about growing
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up in Southern California when I did was
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there was a lot of money in schools for
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the arts. Um, and so we used to be able
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to go to professional productions and
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workshops and seminars and festivals and
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all this stuff that involved
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professional actors. And one of these
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was to go to the Marter Forum while Jack
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Lemon and Walter Matau and Moren
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Stapleton were doing a production of Jun
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Juno and the Peacock Shaun Casey's great
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play in 1974
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uh, and attend a workshop that Jack
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Lemon was going to run before seeing
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that production. and uh we all had to
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get up and do scenes and um I did my
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scene and at the end of it Jack Lemon
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walked up to me and he put his hand on
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my shoulder and he said that was
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actually terrific.
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He said, "No, you're a you're a born
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actor. You're you're meant to do this
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for your I'm telling you right now, you
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should go to New York and you should
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study acting because you're meant to do
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this for your career. You're meant to do
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this." And I was a shy 13-year-old kid.
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And that meant the world to me. I mean,
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that was an example of when someone says
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something to you at exactly the right
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moment that you need to hear.
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And of course, I did go to New York and
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I did study acting.
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And 12 years later, I got the
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opportunity to audition
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to play Jack Lemon's son in a production
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on Broadway of Long Day's Journey into
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Tonight. And um after auditioning with
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Jack, which was the second series of
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auditions I had because I had auditioned
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for Jonathan Miller, the director, first
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and then about 3 months later, I had to
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go back in and audition with Jack Lemon.
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Um I did a series of scenes with him and
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I was relentless. I wanted this part so
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bad to play the alcoholic son.
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And at the end of like four scenes, Jack
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Lemon walked up to me, put his hand on
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my shoulder again, and said, "You know
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what? I never thought we'd find the
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rotten kid, but she did. Jesus Christ,
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what the hell was that?
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And um I spent the next year of my life
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working with Jack every night. And then
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we got the opportunity to do a
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television miniseries together called
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The Murder of Mary Fagan. And then we
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did a film called Dad together. And then
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our final work together was in a film
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called Glengary Glenn Ross. And he
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became like a father figure to me. Uh,
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and there isn't really a day that goes
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by that I don't that I don't think about
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Jack.
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After I did my first play in New York,
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which was Shakespeare in the Park, I
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didn't want to be a waiter. So, I went
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back to the public theater and I had no
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appointment. And I went past Dolores who
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was the person who always was like the
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security desk and she answered all the
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phones and and she knew me from the
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rehearsals and she was like, "Oh, hi
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Kevin." I said, "Hi." I'm just going up
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to say hi to the girls. I Oh, great. I
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you know, I was like sneaking into the
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public theater and I went upstairs and I
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started saying hi to all the girls that
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worked for Mr. Pap and he was in his
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office and he sort of leaned out and he
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goes, "Oh yes, I remember you." Because
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Joe always used to saddle up to the
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young actors
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in rehearsals or up at the delicacort.
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He'd ask you where you're from and where
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you studied and you know why were you an
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actor? He was always sort of
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investigating
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people's degree of seriousness. And um
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so he called me to his office and I went
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and I sat down. I told him my little sob
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story about I had no agent, I had no
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manager, I had no money, I had no
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prospects, I
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didn't want to wait on tables, I didn't
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want to be a waiting actor.
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And I said, I just came because I
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thought maybe if there was anything, you
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know, there's like a job at the public I
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could do and just make like a little
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money so I could pay my rent.
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So Joe hired me in the stock room
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and put me downstairs in the basement
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where I handed out pencils and pads and
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erasers and rulers to stage managers and
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directors. And then over the course of a
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bunch of months, I ended up they took me
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out of there and put me up into the
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contracts office. And so I worked for
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Robert Camelot for a while and I went
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into the publicity office and I worked
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there and then eventually I ended up in
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Joe's office and became one of I don't
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know three PAs that he had. So I, you
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know, wash the car, get the dry
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cleaning, you know, whatever the minial
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stuff was that I had to do.
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And then I got while I had this job, I
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got this off off off off off off off off
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Broadway production of of a Friedrich
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Schiller play called The Robbers,
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which wasn't even in the theater. It was
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on a in a dance space on 13th Street. So
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I I I got this lead part. And so I was,
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you know, at that's what I was doing at
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night, sneaking off to rehearse every
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now and then. And uh so anyway, we
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opened this play and for reasons I can't
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even begin to tell you, The Village
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Voice came to review this play and I got
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my first New York review, which was a
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pretty good review.
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It actually
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in the same paragraph
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compared me to both Carl Malden and
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Marlon Brando in the same sentence. So
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my friends had a really good time
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calling me Marlon Malden for quite a
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while.
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And someone at the public shows Joe this
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review.
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And the next night he came and saw me in
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this play on 13th Street. And the next
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day he called me into his office
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and he fired me.
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And I was like, "What did I do?" He
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said, "You didn't do anything." He said,
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"You've been working here now for about
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eight months. You've been getting
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comfortable making a little paycheck.
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And last night I went to the theater and
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I discovered an actor on stage and he
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pushed me out, gave me three months
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salary
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and four months later wasn't in the
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opening night audience of my first
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Broadway play.
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And that kind of mentorship, that kind
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of fatherly shove, which is clearly what
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I needed.
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Um, yeah, it's the reason I do
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workshops. It's the reason I started my
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foundation. It's the reason that I feel,
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you know, it's what Jack Lemon used to
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always say. If you've done well in the
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business you wanted to do well in, then
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it's your obligation to send the
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elevator back down. I always thought
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that was a pretty cool way of saying it.19353
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