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It almost doesn't even matter if you
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don't understand every single word
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because I don't think an audience
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necessarily understands every single
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word
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but they get the feeling. You get you
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get you understand the journey that the
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character is going through. Um, and you
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know, when I, for example, later on did
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Richard II at the Old Vic that Trevor
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Nun directed, it was slightly terrifying
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experience because he absolutely
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wanted me to sound like an English king.
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And, you know, I'm I'm a kid from New
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Jersey, you know, I mean, it was uh it
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was very intimidating to try to
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authentically sound like an English
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king. I'm on stage with British actors
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that have been doing it their whole
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lives. And uh it was quite a task for me
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to learn that um process to where I
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began to feel comfortable enough with
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the sound of my own voice, the sound of
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how things came out of my mouth. Um and
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I also was quite determined in that
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production. Um, you know, Richard II is
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one of those plays where it's been known
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for its language and for its uh actors
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who've played Richard II uh have been
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known to be rather velvety in the way
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that they uh ascribe those words and
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that and I remember having many
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discussions and even some arguments with
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Trevor about the fact that I didn't want
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to play Richard II as a as a character
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who was in love with the sound of his
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own voice, that he was actually fighting
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for something and fighting for for his
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life and fighting for uh his position.
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Um
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and ultimately is a changed man by the
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end of that play.
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I I just did something that's an acting
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piece, but it also slightly required an
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ability to
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um hear and and try to grapple with um
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an attitude. And that was I just played
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Richard Nixon.
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I've just done a film about Richard
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Nixon and the famous meeting he had with
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Elvis Presley. And so the decision was I
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I can't do an outandout impression of
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Richard Nixon. It can't sustain
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for a 2-hour film. And you know, I could
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probably learn a Richard Nixon that
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would be an immediate Richard Nixon, but
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it didn't feel like that would be
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interesting or could sustain. But I
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suppose in many ways when I've done
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impressions and I've learned how to do
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people my whole life that I've also
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tried to get into their personas to
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understand the way they thought and if I
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can get to a place where it's you're
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actually embracing the persona of
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someone. So, I I began to listen to a
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lot of the tapes and a lot of the phone
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conversations that Nixon had
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because I wasn't interested in watching
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his public speeches. I mean, seen a lot
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of those, but nothing that I was doing
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in the film was public. It was all a
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private meeting that happened in the
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White House in the Oval Office.
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And what I began to realize as I started
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listening to really hours and hours and
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hours of these tapes is Nixon's foul
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mouth.
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I mean, his use of language, I think,
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shocked more Americans when those tapes
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were first released that this was the
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way the president of the United States
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was talking in the Oval Office than
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anything that had to do with covering
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up, you know, 18 minutes of tape. And so
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I I began to try to imagine a person who
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certainly had that level of paranoia
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that he had. And by the way, what was
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interesting about playing him in this
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movie was it was pre-Watergate. So this
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is 1970. I wasn't saddled with
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Watergate.
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But what I was saddled with was this
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man's persona, which was very grumpy.
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I mean, he was just grumpy a lot of the
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times when you listen to him on these
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tapes. And so there's a whole, you know,
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that son of a [ __ ] goddamn
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[ __ ] is not going to come into
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this goddamn, you know, there's a
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certain kind of um cadence and rhythm
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and attitude
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about those people out there who are
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[ __ ] trying to get into here. And it
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was a really interesting experience to
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then go on set and be on set um and to
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try to capture
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this man's essence
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without feeling this obligation to do an
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imitation. It was a very interesting
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experiment to see how far
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I could go or how or how less I could
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go. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I suppose there
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are just things where you wanted to at a
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certain point
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have a physicality that was Nixonian,
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have a a kind of way perhaps maybe maybe
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a total of maybe four or five or six
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lines in the whole movie where it would
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sound very much the way that Nixon might
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say something, you know, a certain
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cadence uh clipped uh quality that he
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had when he spoke. Um, but not to out
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and out be doing a, you know, a sort of
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a rich little kind of impression of, you
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know, Dicky Nixon. That that just to me
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would wear out its welcome very, very
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early. Obviously, I'm not the first
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actor to to tackle Richard Nixon. Um,
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but I actually, it was weird because I
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remember screen testing for Frost Nixon
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and that was a really interesting
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experience to have to have played Nixon.
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you know, I didn't get the part, but to
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have had that opportunity to have
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learned when I went back and looked at
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that film, which I still have uh from
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that screen test um before I started
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shooting um Elvis Nixon, it was really
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interesting and helpful for me to look
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at where I felt I'd made mistakes, where
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I felt that I was talking too slow,
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where I felt that it was too much of an
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imitation of him and not enough of the
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real man. It was actually very helpful
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for me to see that um all these years
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later because that was back in 2005 or
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four that I I think I auditioned for
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that film. So, it's interesting that
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even over these years I I've sort of
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been grappling with with learning how to
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do Nixon in one way or another.
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I had an experience um doing a
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a very successful Broadway play uh
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called Lost and Yoners that was written
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by Neil Simon, directed by Jean Saxs,
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both wonderful men of the theater. And
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I can't exactly tell you what it was
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that happened, but
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um somewhere in the course of
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rehearsals, I
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I missed some steps. I I can't even
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quite ever put my finger on what it was
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that I didn't accomplish or didn't do,
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but I I got ahead of myself. And
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sometimes that can happen where you're
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just suddenly in performance. It's just
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you're suddenly the show is up and
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you're performing and and and yet I was
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feeling like
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my character wasn't genuine. I didn't
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think that, you know, the comedy
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was at the level I wanted it to be at,
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which is that I also wanted it to feel
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real in addition to just getting my
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laughs. Everyone on the production
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creative team looked at me like I was
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out of my mind. You're getting your
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laughs. What are you talking about? It's
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fantastic. People are loving you. And I
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was like, "Yeah, I know I'm getting my
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laughs, but I could also drop my pants
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and have a duck fly out and I'd get a
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laugh, but it doesn't make it
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appropriate." And so I decided when we
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got to Washington DC that I would um
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call on an old friend, a very good
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director friend of mine. And so I I
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asked if he would come to Washington and
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spend as much time as we needed quietly
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um trying to rethink, reshape, maybe
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even reststage
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this performance that I was giving in
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this play. My director friend came and
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saw the first performance that he was
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able to see. We were at the National
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Theater in DC and he we went out
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afterwards for dinner and he said to me,
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"It's not as bad as you think." Um, and
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I was like, "Really?" And he said, "No,
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no, no. It's it's um basically you've
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got all these pearls and no string,
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so we're going to give you some string."
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And so over the next nearly 15 days,
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very quietly,
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I would try different things. Um, I
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would ask, you know, I'd call Neil Simon
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on the phone and say, "Can I can I not
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do that line about Swiss cheese? Can I
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just get to that other point?" Yeah.
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Neil's like, "Sure." And the changes I
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was making were so subtle and sort of
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that it didn't really I don't think it
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really dawned on anybody what was going
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on
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until we got to New York. And uh I'll
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never forget on the very first preview,
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Neil Simon came racing backstage after
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the first act at intermission
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to rip me a new [ __ ] Who the hell
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did I think I was? He only realized how
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many lines I had cut uh in these sort of
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very quiet phone calls that I was making
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over the course of of the last month.
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But it was intermission and I did say to
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him, "We can have this conversation
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after I finished act two. Is that
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possible?" Um but then later he realized
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what I had been up to and and
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appreciated the fact that I had actually
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done the work I'd done. And in the end,
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I got one of the greatest letters I've
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ever gotten from a playwright on opening
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night from Neil. But I illustrate that
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story just to say that
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sometimes
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actors can go through situations where
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they feel they have no control and where
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they feel, as I did, that I wasn't good
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enough and I wanted to be good enough.
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But sometimes you can find yourselves in
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that place where you just you either can
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make a choice to do something or you can
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make a choice to live with it. And I I I
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chose not not to live with it.18263
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