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Did you really want to charge to
use toilets on Ryanair planes? Yes.
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How do you rate pilots?
Pilots are glorified taxi drivers.
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Is the customer always right?
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No, the customer
is nearly always wrong.
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(Laughter)
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Ryanair dominates the European sky.
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Valued at 30 billion euro, its
low-cost model has made travel
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affordable for everyone.
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It is the most extraordinary
commercial story in any country.
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Yet, it's never far from controversy.
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We've to leave for Portugal in 10
minutes, so as soon as that door
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opens, grab your bags,
take your rubbish and fu...
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They are crass, they're
rude, they're not nice to customers.
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Fucking Ryanair.
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They're expecting you to freak out,
they want you to have a meltdown.
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Tony Ryan's Ryanair
had business class.
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Our passengers
were really important to us.
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Here's to Ryanair!
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A brand we love to hate.
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Ryanair is the only airline in the
world that flies you from no place
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to no place.
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Sorry about the delay,
we'll be blaming the Germans.
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Led by, shall we say,
a polarising character.
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That kind of
pugnacious, in-your-face denim.
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He's quite forceful.
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For fuck's sake, Duggan, compete!
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He bullies people.
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First thing he said
was, who the fuck are you?
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Go back to where you came from.
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He would call us
the ugly women brigade.
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This is the story of how a brash,
scrappy Irish airline became a giant
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in global aviation.
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I will personally come up to
the boarding gate and kiss your...
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I have a feeling Donald Trump
studied the Michael O'Leary story.
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In 1997, Ryanair's new, cocksure
CEO brought the airline to the stock
market.
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Michael O'Leary was confident in
securing 300 million punts in the
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flotation, despite, only a few years
earlier, calling for the airline to
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be shut down.
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What led to that turnaround is a
story of vision, hubris, sharp elbows
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and dogged accounting.
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It starts with a tale of two Ryans.
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Here's an early photograph
of dad, 1956, I believe.
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My dad was from
Kilsheelan in County Tipperary.
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A very proud Tipperary man,
as a lot of them seem to be.
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He had ambitions, what
he wanted to do with his life.
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He saw a job
advertisement for Aer Lingus.
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He decided to jump on his
motorbike and travel to Shannon for
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the interview.
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He was successful
in getting the job.
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On his first day, he met another
Tipperary man, a man by the name of
Tony Ryan.
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Will you welcome please,
Tipperary's own Dr. Tony Ryan.
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Sharing a home county and a
last name, Tony also had a fierce
ambition.
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Where I was growing up in the
mid-50s, you had a couple of jobs to
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go, you had the Air
Corps, ESB, Aer Lingus.
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And if you got any one of
those, you felt you had made it.
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The men joined the world of
aviation as clerks and soon became
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close friends.
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There's an early picture now from
1956, I think it is, with dad and
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Tony back in their days in Shannon.
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They're so young,
they're like 19, I'd say?
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Dad was 19, I think Tony was 20.
Yeah, great picture.
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They dressed like
pilots, really, didn't they?
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Yeah.
Even the ground staff.
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Yeah.
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That's where a lifetime of
friendship, a lifetime of aviation
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history kind of begins.
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And that's the genesis
of the Ryanair story, really.
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Tony Ryan's wedding
with dad as a groomsman.
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Yeah, early 60s,
I think that was as well.
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The top hats are great.
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Dad was godfather to
Tony's second son, Declan.
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They also ventured further afield
then to the United States, station
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manager positions
in Chicago, in New York.
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It was around that time that
an opportunity came for Tony Ryan.
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At Aer Lingus, Tony Ryan hit on a
moneymaker that would change aviation
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in Ireland forever.
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The idea was simple,
renting idle airplanes to airlines.
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This meant that airlines didn't
have the major capital expenditure
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of buying an expensive aircraft.
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He took that on,
but then he charged
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expensively for
the annual rent.
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And it turned out to
be an exceptionally
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valuable business
and became very big
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very, very quickly.
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The new venture, Guinness Peat
Aviation, kept the old friends
together.
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They were always in touch with each
other, even when they went their
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separate ways, they always
seemed to come back together.
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All the way through to Guinness Peat
Aviation, Tony actually requested
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that dad come over
to help with the operation.
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So that was an interesting time for
aviation, for the world, for him.
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Millie, where did she go?
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Now, here you go, Millie.
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Here you go, Millie.
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Millie!
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So I was elected as the
youngest TD in the door in 1981.
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I believe that I represent
a progressive modern Ireland.
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I would have
taken over 400 flights
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at that time
as a minister and TD.
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Come on, Millie.
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I haven't flown for 20 years,
I have a phobia about flying.
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I get an absolute panic attack.
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Over the last 40 years, I've had a
front row seat of Irish business and
government.
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Ireland in the 80s was, let's face
it, somewhere you didn't want a front
row seat.
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It was a very entrenched society,
which was still under the influence
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of the Catholic Church.
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We had deep social regulation,
no permissibility on divorce,
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contraception, abortion,
all of that good stuff.
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What does being a punk mean?
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It just means being
different from everybody else.
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Punk wants to
change society the way it is.
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We don't like society the way it is.
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Ireland in
the 1980s, we were
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looking over
to the UK, we were
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looking off to
America with very
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rose-tinted
glasses, and we really
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thought the best thing about
Ireland then was getting out of it.
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Aviation was a
rich person's pursuit.
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Dubliners used to
dress up in their
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Sunday best to
come out to the
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old terminal and watch
rich people getting on planes.
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Chances were, if you were taking a
flight from Ireland, you were either
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rich or emigrating.
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The continuing flow of emigration
traffic forces many to despair.
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It's a phenomenon now affecting
almost every family in the land.
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Ireland's favourite export, young
people, left in their thousands.
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My father encouraged me to join Aer
Lingus because he said it's the only
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Irish company
at the time that's
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really
looking outside Ireland.
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And fortunately
enough, I was successful.
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When it came to headhunting, only
the best would do for Tony Ryan's new
venture.
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And one Christmas Eve, I was in the
Hibernian Hotel and I met Tony Ryan
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and he asked me when I was coming to
work for them, the fledgling GPA,
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and I said, Ah Tony,
you couldn't afford me.
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Of course, that was red rag to
a bull because Tony felt he could
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afford anything and
everybody, and sure enough, he did.
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Tony's idea hit the jackpot.
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He basically set up
the aircraft leasing business.
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We were on planes out of Ireland,
marketing aircraft to airlines in
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Sri Lanka and Bangladesh and
Jamaica and Brazil and wherever.
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Profits for the GPA group
last year were over £100 million.
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I often said that Tony, if he had
an idea while he was shaving in the
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morning, wanted to have a press
release on the transaction out by
lunchtime.
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I don't think there's any
written rule that people have to
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work extraordinarily hard.
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I think they do it
of their own volition.
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They enjoy the challenge
and they get on with the job.
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Is the feeling that they
will take additional airplanes?
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They may not go to the full 37...
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Tony's Monday morning meetings
were the stuff of corporate legend.
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Tony could be remorseless if the
deal wasn't going well, wasn't going
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to his expectations, wasn't
happening as quickly as he would
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like it to happen.
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At the end of the meeting,
there would be blood on the walls.
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Not even Tony's old pal Christy
could escape the relentless pressure.
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He decided that he needed to take
a bit of a break on his doctor's
advice.
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He was burnt out, pretty much.
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Aer Lingus, the legacy national
carrier since 1936, presented a
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green-tinted vision of Ireland.
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The Aer Lingus
brand, to me,
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stands for prestige
and everything Irish.
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So the whole marketing of Aer
Lingus, from the air hostesses right
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across, was very
much the shamrock, the harp.
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It was, as much as Guinness, as part
of Irish culture, Irish emblem on
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the global stage.
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In the 1980s, it wasn't clear-cut
that private enterprise was good,
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that the consumer
should be looked after.
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Sky-high prices
kept most of us grounded.
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And that was at a time when a
Dublin-London flight could be 300
quid.
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That would make it the equivalent
of a flight to Australia now.
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Flying was for the elite.
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The rest of us...
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HORN BLAST
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...got the ferry.
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It's a pretty strong childhood
memory for many Irish people,
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getting sick on
the boat to Holyhead.
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Aer Lingus enjoyed wide-open
skies, unburdened by competition.
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Aer Lingus, back in the 1980s,
just wanted the game to itself.
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All traffic in and out of the island
was controlled by Aer Lingus, and
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that's the way it liked it.
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Over the years, many small ventures
often tried to get off the ground and
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into the national carrier's airspace.
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When competition came, it was
able to depend on the Department of
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Transport to crush it.
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The government was behoven to Aer
Lingus and it allowed Aer Lingus to
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behave in an aggressive fashion.
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Somebody had to come along
and state the case for the consumer.
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After GPA, Christy ran Aer Arann,
a tiny island hopper in the west of
Ireland.
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Dad's time at Aer Aran really got
the cogs turning in his mind with
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possibilities and the potential
of establishing a new airline.
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He wasn't alone in
spotting a need in the market.
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Liam Lonergan was a visionary
in the Irish travel trade.
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He had a vision of bringing
low-cost travel to the masses.
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The men shared a vision
and Tony had the firepower.
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He saw the opportunity, encouraged
by friends such as Christy Ryan and
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Liam Lonergan to
set up a new airline.
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I had three sons.
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I wanted them to enjoy some of the
magic of aviation that I've enjoyed
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over the years.
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And I put up money for them.
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They decided to split the company
up, 10% to my father for a £50,000
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investment and then the other 90%
was going to be owned by Cathal and
Declan.
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He put the ownership effectively
into a trust for his sons and they
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were nominally the owners, whereas
everybody knew that it was Tony
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Ryan's money that
was paying the bills.
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You know, you invest some money,
whether it's to buy a farm for your
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sons or whether it's to buy a Mickey
Mouse airline at the time for your
sons.
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But what to call this new airline?
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My dad and Tony and his two sons
were at Tony's house talking about
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their new venture and they
started banding around a few names.
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Shamrock Air, Emerald Air.
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There was a Tipperary one.
Trans-Tipperary Express.
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Trans-Tipperary Express,
doesn't really roll off the tongue.
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And within earshot was Tony's
youngest son Shane and he pipes up
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and says, there's three Ryans
sitting around the table, why not
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call it Ryanair?
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And they all thought this was a
great idea and that was how the
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naming came about.
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The first flight then was
set for the 8th of July, 1985.
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This is at least the third statue in
the south of the country which is
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supposed to have
moved in recent months.
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The next item has caused us
considerable trouble this week.
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The item is about lesbian nuns.
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There are people watching this show
tonight who are firmly convinced
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that if you came on you would have
horns sticking out of your heads.
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Oh, you didn't notice?
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This Ryanair camper van.
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Great memories
of spending time in this.
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We had the board meetings in
our dining room and people running
around.
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Here's me in the
cockpit of the Bandeirante.
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The old Bandeirante which
was Ryanair's first plane.
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Engineers on the Bandeirante.
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Seeing our family name pasted across
airplanes was incredible to us and
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there was just a general feeling of
something really new and exciting
happening.
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They chose Waterford for their
launch, appealing to local business
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travellers looking to avoid
the long drive to Dublin airport.
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Oh yeah.
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So from 1st July, new
Waterford-London-Waterford service
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will save you five hours.
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So that's what they were really
promoting was the business aspect of
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the airline.
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Yeah, Ryanair, the London Express.
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They were kind of trying to scoot
under the radar a little bit and not
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come head to head
with Aer Lingus at the time.
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Operating out of Waterford airport
was not in direct competition.
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The Ryanair reservations book.
Yeah.
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And the first flight.
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Yeah.
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So I love this.
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People ringing up, buying a
ticket, paying their money and then
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everything being kept
in the journal, basically.
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8th of July '85.
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For take-off, Ryanair needed a
licence to fly from the Department of
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Transport and for the minister to
take a gamble on this Mickey Mouse
airline.
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My father contacted the city manager
of Waterford and I think he was
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nearly laughed out of the office.
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The city manager said, look, secure
your licence first and then come
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back to me, thinking that he
probably wasn't going to come back.
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Never going to see him again.
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So they needed a break.
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My father, through his connections
then with Jim Mitchell, the Minister
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for Transport, who he had known
working for Aer Arann, he actually
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jumped in his car and he met Jim
Mitchell at half past ten in the
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Ashling Hotel in Dublin.
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Jim Mitchell
signed the licence papers.
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My father drove back down to
Waterford and he was in the city
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manager's office the next
morning and it was all systems go.
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A party of VIPs, including the mayor
of Waterford, boarded the 15-seater
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turboprop plane for the inaugural
flight of the new service, which is
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being operated by the newly
established airline Ryanair.
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July 1985, their first flight of 18
people from Waterford to Gatwick.
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And that was pretty revolutionary.
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I'm not sure many people even knew
when that first flight went out.
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It would have been that little odd
little Irish company, Ryanair, which
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is trying to make its name.
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Once upon a time, flying was
rarefied, a spectator activity for
most.
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I remember when I used to go out
with my mother on a Sunday, we'd go
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out onto the
old terminal in the
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airport and you'd
wait an hour and a
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half before one
plane did land and
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you'd be delighted to see one plane.
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My parents were Cork, so I spent
a lot of my summers in West Cork.
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My memory is of rain,
but I still enjoyed them.
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In my childhood,
people didn't leave the country.
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From 1970 almost to the
present day, I went to Drumkeady.
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I did go to the Gaeltacht, and
very much enjoyed that as a child.
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Tramore, Dunmore East, Duncannon, or
spending weeks in our grandparents.
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I don't think we took
many holidays as a child.
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We used to go
swimming off Bray Beach.
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We mostly went to Donegal, and then
there was a trip to Tralee, which
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was fantastic.
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Living here in Connemara, so
it's like a holiday year round,
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it's beautiful here.
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Back in the day, foreign holidays
were beyond the reach of most Irish
people.
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I think that's why a lot of people
were very surprised when Ryanair was
set up.
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Who actually
would want a new airline?
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What were the chances
of it actually succeeding?
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The new airline had
a sharp incline to get airborne.
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The airline, Ryanair, was his baby
at the very start, his third baby
after us.
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He was so driven at the time.
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Christy Ryan, as Managing Director
of the newly established Ryanair,
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says that after just 2 weeks of
operation, they're getting twice as
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many passengers as had been hoped.
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It was all very small in a Brazilian
Bandeirante aircraft, and you can't
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really make money on
a single aircraft airline.
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When Ryanair started off, I mean,
they were a Mickey Mouse airline.
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I joined in 1986.
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I was just 17
at the time, and
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nicknamed the
baby of the airline.
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May the Lord be with all those who
travel and guide them in safety and
joy.
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You had people who had never, ever
stepped foot in an airport, never
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mind on an aircraft before, and
you'd turn around and they were
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around the other side of the
aircraft, thought they went in where
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the bags went in.
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To make a profit meant expansion, so
they opened a Dublin to London route.
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Because we were small, we knew our
customer by name, our passengers
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were really important to us.
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Anything over 2 hours,
you did the full meal service.
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We did have a business class.
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Here's to Ryanair.
Thank you very much.
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Beautiful new aircraft.
Thank you very much.
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My first flight with
Ryanair was a dream come true.
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This was
something that
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was new,
it was exciting.
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The scrappy new
airline caught attention.
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Today's announcement by Virgin
Atlantic is the latest salvo in the
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airfares war.
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People started to sit up and realise
that maybe, you know, we were being
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taken for a ride for a
long, long time in terms of cost.
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We met many celebrities
on the flights over the years.
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Fatboy Slim, yeah,
great fun on those flights.
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You were very proud to
wear the Ryanair uniform.
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Rivals of Aer Lingus at the time,
it was the blue versus the green.
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Ryanair, the only airline
with nothing going for it.
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Have you noticed how more people
are flying Aer Lingus these days?
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Is it because we offer a range
of low fares from as little as £57
return?
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The legacy airline could no longer
ignore the new kid on the block.
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Aer Lingus weren't tremendously
worried about Waterford.
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What it didn't like was when Ryanair
started looking at some of the other
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bigger airports that
Aer Lingus was entrenched in.
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Ryanair were the first to break open
the champagne this morning for the
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inaugural of their new route,
Dublin-Manchester, already served by
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Aer Lingus.
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It's the first time the two airlines
have been in direct competition.
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Aer Lingus responded by operating
flights to Stansted, which in the
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Ryanair growth plan,
Stansted was massively important.
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To us.
And the new route.
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Here's to Stansted.
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We'll be waiting.
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Stansted.
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Aer Lingus undercut them.
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Ryanair was in
the brink of collapse.
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Cheap seats were a hit with the
public, but Ryanair failed to turn a
profit.
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They had no idea
what the costs were.
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There were bills arriving that they
had no idea where they came from.
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It's worse than
£3 million, as has
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been reported, and has
been worse than £3 million.
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Tony had to put a lot
of his own money into Ryanair.
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People have shown courage in terms
of changing the political culture.
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The Minister for Transport broke
from the status quo and threw Ryanair
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a lifeline.
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He said, Aer Lingus, stay out of
Stansted, concentrate on Gatwick and
Heathrow.
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Ryanair had a free run on Stansted.
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So it's a very
big day for Irish
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aviation, and
more importantly,
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it's a very big day
for Irish tourism.
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Seamus Brennan, as Minister for
Transport, probably deserves more
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credit than anyone
else for the Ryanair story.
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I believe what
Seamus Brennan did is
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one of the most
important things
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that was ever
done for social and
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economic development
of our country.
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It was a linchpin in helping
Ireland grow to the next stage.
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Exclusive use from Ireland to
London's shiny new airport would give
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the airline a
chance to establish growth.
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Ryanair now had a flying shot.
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Timofte against Bonner...
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LOUD CHEER
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The 90s was a time
of having wasted the 80s.
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We started to get our act together.
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I was elected by men and women of
all parties and none, and above all,
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by the women of
Ireland, mna na hEireann.
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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
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The nation holds its breath...
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Yes, we're there!
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The 1990s brought
something new to Ireland, optimism.
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Tony Ryan's other aviation
story continued to rake in the cash.
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And in the five years up to 1992, we
sold, I think, $5 billion worth of
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aircraft to
investors in 32 countries.
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Tony Ryan is one
of Ireland's richest men.
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His Shannon-based aircraft leasing
company is worth an estimated $3
billion.
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Tony had made a
lot of money from GPA.
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He was quite a wealthy man.
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Ryanair was really a plaything,
it was something he set up for his
three sons.
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Tony wasn't coy about his success.
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Tony was kind of
a grandeese, quite rarefied.
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He was a generous donor to Irish
arts and culture and infused his pet
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project, Ryanair,
with a touch of gold.
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At the time, Ryanair sponsored the
Eurovision Song Contest and they
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were sponsoring horse races when
they really didn't have the money to
do it.
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Financially, I think
he didn't quite get it.
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Tony needed a cash
influx for new planes.
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Cocksure, he decided to bring his
golden touch to the stock market and
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sell GPA shares.
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He had made big commitments to the
purchase of aircraft and didn't have
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enough money, so what he needed to
do was raise about £850 million, an
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enormous sum of money,
billions in today's money.
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In business, as in
life, timing is everything.
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As I report to you, air attacks are
underway against military targets in
Iraq.
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The outbreak of war in the
Gulf brought fuel prices sky high.
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Aircraft leasing rates have dropped
by 20% in the past two years and
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orders for new
planes have plummeted.
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In addition, stock
markets are very weak.
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I mean, the GPA IPO was...
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Goldman Sachs told Tony that the
price is too high, you've got to
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reduce it by $2 or
$3, and Tony refused.
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The whole thing collapsed and it
was all pretty heart-rending at the
time.
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Tony had gambled the house and lost.
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With insurmountable debt, his
beloved GPA was in imminent danger.
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The stock market flotation crashed
and burned and over the next year,
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GPA more or less went with it.
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This was your life's work to date.
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Did you feel
devastated by the whole thing?
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There must be a
stronger word than devastated.
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Knocked off my ass, if
I may use a crudism like that.
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But in life, you
have very few alternatives.
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If you're knocked
down, you've two choices,
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either stay down or get up
and, you say, dust yourself off.
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Though Stansted had saved them
from collapse, Ryanair was still
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under Tony's protection.
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When the GPA IPO didn't succeed,
this would have affected Tony Ryan's
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personal finances.
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There was a bit of concern, would
the airline be able to continue?
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It's not as easy to set up
an airline as one would think.
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You have to go
through a certain process.
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You have to test
out your management.
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Tony had a great ability in hiring
fast and firing slow, and I always
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felt he should
hire slow and fire fast.
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Over the years, Ryanair had seen
management come and go, including one
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of its founders.
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He was kind of edged
further from the decision-making.
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Your dad didn't stay at
Ryanair, when did he leave?
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Yeah, I don't know if I want
to go into that, to be honest.
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I mean, I'd love to get into it.
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Can you get into
it in a tactful way?
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Eventually, Christy Ryan bowed
out of Ryanair and he sold his
shareholding.
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My father used to have an
expression, that the best deal goes
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through the hottest fire.
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You'll never have
character, my son, without pain.
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Tonight, for the first time
publicly, the chief executive of the
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company, Michael O'Leary, gives us
his thoughts on where the airline is
going.
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As you will see, when it comes to
being a chief executive, he is not
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your typical one, and actually
has a very individual style.
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But it's not on Armani suits that
this young cork-born whiz kid spends
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his fortune.
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No, his standard dress for work
is blue jeans and check shirts.
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That kind of pugnacious in-your-face
denim is the first thing you get.
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You knew from the very get-go
that you were getting something that
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wasn't your standard
chief executive material.
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But we don't frankly care what
people do or what way they wear when
460
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:54,518
they come to work, as long as
when they're in work for Ryanair,
461
00:27:54,519 --> 00:27:56,039
they're working hard for us.
462
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,799
Believe it or not, Michael was very,
very shy, found it hard to give any
463
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,558
of us eye contact.
464
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:01,958
♪ Where did you come from?
Where did you go?
465
00:28:01,959 --> 00:28:03,958
♪ Where did you
come from, Cotton Eye Joe?
466
00:28:03,959 --> 00:28:05,638
♪ If it hadn't
been for Cotton Eye Joe
467
00:28:05,639 --> 00:28:07,518
♪ I'd been married
a long time ago...
468
00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:11,639
Michael O'Leary is very much a
country boy turned country man.
469
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,878
O'Leary had earned his
stripes with Tony years before.
470
00:28:15,879 --> 00:28:19,799
Michael O'Leary was working
in KPMG in the tax department.
471
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,479
So he was a sharp mathematical
accountancy brain and he was
472
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,958
entrepreneurial.
473
00:28:24,959 --> 00:28:27,838
Tony Ryan was looking around.
474
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:30,638
He went to Michael O'Leary and
he says, will you work for me?
475
00:28:30,639 --> 00:28:32,080
So he did.
476
00:28:33,879 --> 00:28:37,999
Michael looked after Tony's vast
personal accounts, but with Ryanair
477
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,120
in the gutter, he was
sent in to assess the damage.
478
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,838
We were losing a lot of money.
479
00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:46,958
Tony Ryan sent him in to
find out where was the hole.
480
00:28:46,959 --> 00:28:49,399
It came about because the place was
going bankrupt and they couldn't get
481
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,278
anybody else to quit and be CFO, so
he was losing all of Ryan's money,
482
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:56,598
so I was sent in to stop the losses,
do whatever you want to stop the
losses.
483
00:28:56,599 --> 00:29:01,719
He became the CFO and then
subsequently, in 1994, the CEO of
Ryanair.
484
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,598
Tony liked people
with initiative and strength.
485
00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:06,799
Dublin Airport is
our most expensive airport.
486
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,638
This is a point
we have repeatedly made.
487
00:29:08,639 --> 00:29:12,799
We knew if Tony had requested for
Michael to come in and assess things
488
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,679
that, you know, this
guy knew what he was doing.
489
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,719
When he went into Ryanair, he went
in on a deal that he would get 25%
490
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,839
of the profits of anything
above £2 million at the time.
491
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,558
O'Leary applied his accountancy brain
and came to only one conclusion.
492
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:33,119
Michael O'Leary advised
Tony Ryan to close it down.
493
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,359
Close down the airline,
it's not going to work.
494
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,598
Tony said, it is
not going to close down.
495
00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:38,999
I want it to make money.
496
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,518
Tony Ryan exploded.
497
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:42,799
Now, he didn't have any solutions as
to how they were going to save the
498
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,439
business, but he told them, probably
because of pride, that you're not
499
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,959
going to sell it.
500
00:29:50,919 --> 00:29:53,159
But Tony Ryan was not for turning.
501
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,399
A solution had to be found.
502
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,760
In order to help Ryanair survive,
the business model had to change.
503
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,879
They needed a success
story to draw inspiration from.
504
00:30:07,199 --> 00:30:11,399
Tony used to go to these airline
meetings, and he became very
505
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,198
friendly with Herb Kelleher.
506
00:30:13,199 --> 00:30:15,838
If you're embarrassed to fly the
airline with the fewest customer
507
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:20,079
complaints in the country,
Southwest will give you this bag.
508
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,878
If, on the other hand, Southwest is
your kind of airline, we'll still
509
00:30:24,879 --> 00:30:26,720
give you this bag.
510
00:30:27,639 --> 00:30:30,239
For all the money
you'll save flying with us.
511
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,959
Southwest Airlines
was very much a disruptor.
512
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,759
Low-cost carrier,
single aircraft,
513
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,079
and under
represented airports.
514
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,238
Tony sent Michael to Texas to spend
time with his friend Herb Kelleher to
515
00:30:50,239 --> 00:30:51,800
see what he could learn.
516
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:55,518
O'Leary came back
speaking, he had seen the future.
517
00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:59,479
Tony, if this thing is going
to work, it's got to be low-cost.
518
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,598
We've got to
shave everything we can.
519
00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:05,479
O'Leary now had control of the
scissors, and he started to cut.
520
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,278
He was absolutely
stringent on reducing every cost.
521
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:11,598
You know the stories about Michael
not allowing people to charge their
522
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:15,439
phones in the office, telling
people to steal pens from hotels.
523
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,000
He was just into that sort of
level of detail of low, low cost.
524
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,558
And that's where Michael
really was different from Tony.
525
00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:27,439
Tony Ryan used to fly around on
Concorde, and he had this vision
526
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,719
that you could fly around
on Concorde but charge 10 euro
527
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,679
airfares, which was insane.
528
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,399
And so he wanted it very
stylish and elegant, but cheap.
529
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,679
Tony's aunt was travelling on a
flight with Ryanair, and Tony sent
530
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,039
Michael a note, would you ever
please see that she gets a drink?
531
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,039
And Michael took Tony's note and
wrote on the bottom, send three
532
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,680
pounds, and sent
the note back to Tony.
533
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,800
No prisoners taken.
534
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:55,160
Michael had a vision, and we could
see that he was looking to change
things.
535
00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:58,759
Just an incredible ball of energy.
536
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,000
He's like a bullet, he's like
the roadrunner through the office.
537
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,518
Michael O'Leary turned
that energy into cutting costs.
538
00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:09,999
Ryanair entered a new era of
efficiency that would rattle both
539
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,639
competition and passengers.
540
00:32:14,999 --> 00:32:18,959
We did invite Michael O'Leary himself
to partake in interview for this.
541
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,920
I'm going to need
my glasses to read this.
542
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,159
(Chuckles)
543
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,159
"Dear Aisling, thank you for
your letter dated 7th of July.
544
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,718
While I wish you every
success with your documentary,
545
00:32:35,719 --> 00:32:39,519
I have no interest in participating
in documentaries about Ryanair or
546
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,439
our changing
national self-perception."
547
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,398
"It sounds far too much like pulling
wool out of our collective navels
548
00:32:45,399 --> 00:32:47,160
while watching paint dry."
549
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,919
"In Ryanair, we prefer to look
forward rather than look back."
550
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,358
"I therefore hope you'll
understand if I politely decline."
551
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:55,120
"Michael O'Leary, Group CEO."
552
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,678
I got one of those letters myself
when I was writing biography of him
553
00:32:59,679 --> 00:33:01,559
back in 2017.
554
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,639
And he wished me Godspeed.
555
00:33:05,719 --> 00:33:10,479
By the mid-1990s, the
O'Leary effect had fully taken hold.
556
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,358
He was cutting
costs and buying planes.
557
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:18,439
I was working at Manchester Airport
and I was looking at some numbers
558
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,398
and this Irish
airline, Ryanair, was
559
00:33:22,399 --> 00:33:25,639
starting to
do remarkable things.
560
00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:34,678
Michael O'Leary came and told me
how little they wanted to fly to
Manchester.
561
00:33:34,679 --> 00:33:39,160
However, if we made them
an offer, they might consider it.
562
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,920
Michael's unique negotiating style
made Ryanair stand out like a sore
thumb.
563
00:33:47,959 --> 00:33:51,958
I was dealing with about 40
airlines from across the world.
564
00:33:51,959 --> 00:33:57,559
Ryanair were quite the most
demanding, obnoxious, belligerent
565
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,519
new airline that we'd ever
had the misfortune to deal with.
566
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,199
Every deal felt Michael's squeeze.
567
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,598
Now, why should a £59 fare from
Dublin to London be any different
568
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:10,799
just because a group of travel
agents said they're going to boycott
us?
569
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,598
It's not a good enough reason.
570
00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:16,278
If I was to describe someone
as "no-shit Sherlock", it would be
571
00:34:16,279 --> 00:34:17,760
Michael O'Leary.
572
00:34:19,279 --> 00:34:22,718
But Tim was not going
to take this tactic lightly.
573
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,238
Ryanair weren't paying their bills,
had had a massive row with his
574
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,038
finance director.
575
00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:32,158
If you don't pay your bills, you'll
pay the same price as everybody
else's.
576
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:35,559
There was some
surprise at that approach.
577
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,398
How dare I speak to them like that?
578
00:34:38,399 --> 00:34:42,997
So it was a total surprise when
Michael said, would I like to join
579
00:34:42,998 --> 00:34:44,760
the Ryanair team?
580
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,119
Nothing could have made me less
want to work for Ryanair than the
581
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,440
experience I'd had
in the previous six months.
582
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:59,439
Being in Ryanair, there's
always an extra layer to negotiate.
583
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,119
When people say
it's a final offer,
584
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,879
it's never
a final offer.
585
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,079
There's always haggling to be done
and nothing is ever off the table.
586
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,279
Anyway, we came to an agreement and
so I did go and work for Ryanair.
587
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,239
Hundreds of East Germans have
come over in the last four hours.
588
00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:23,638
Many say they've
never seen West Berlin.
589
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:27,398
In the decades since Ryanair's
first flight, Europe had come to see
590
00:35:27,399 --> 00:35:29,560
dramatic social changes.
591
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:38,759
The newly formed European
Union opened borders and created
opportunity.
592
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,318
Europe has been massive for us.
593
00:35:41,319 --> 00:35:44,678
Irish politician, Peter
Sutherland, freed the European sky
594
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:47,119
from restrictive travel regulations.
595
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,638
Peter was very keen on getting rid
of all the monopolies in European
aviation.
596
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:55,239
Which effectively meant that
in any country there had to be a
597
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:56,998
competitive position.
598
00:35:56,999 --> 00:36:01,120
He was very much pushing
the policy of the world opening up.
599
00:36:05,959 --> 00:36:10,439
The open skies, the deregulation,
the enlargement of Europe which gave
600
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,639
you a whole lot
more countries to go into.
601
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,719
The race for the European sky was on.
602
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,199
To expand, Michael
needed cash and lots of it.
603
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,359
To raise that, they
had to try to sell shares.
604
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,560
But the ghost of
GPA's failure lingered.
605
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,038
He made it clear to Tony Ryan, you
cannot be the chairman of Ryanair
606
00:36:33,039 --> 00:36:36,759
when it goes to the stock market
because you're associated with a
failure.
607
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,799
And that's when they brought David
Bonderman, who was a famous American
608
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,919
investor in, as
chairman of the company.
609
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,159
Ryanair needed a trusted titan
of industry to act as chaperone to
610
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,398
Michael's Wall Street debut.
611
00:36:49,399 --> 00:36:52,439
Michael at the time was
expanding the airline, he was making
612
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,839
it profitable, he was making
Ryanair into a real success.
613
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,799
And obviously David saw that.
614
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,958
David was impressed and liked the
aggression of Michael and he came
615
00:37:00,959 --> 00:37:02,598
along with it.
616
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:06,078
Ireland's pace of change
is now bewilderingly fast.
617
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:08,879
We grow more complex by the day.
618
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,119
Well, after months of speculation,
Ryanair has finally announced its
619
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,638
plans to float on the Dublin
and New York stock exchanges.
620
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:19,598
We plan principally to use it to pay
the debt we currently have and the
621
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:23,078
balance will be used to enable us
to buy six more aircraft this year.
622
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:27,318
The expression that was heard very
often was, it's got to get away.
623
00:37:27,319 --> 00:37:30,119
When the Ryanair flotation was
coming up, everybody in the company
624
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,038
knew about it for the simple reason
that everybody in the company was
625
00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:34,559
getting shares.
626
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,718
One of the carrots at the time when
you were joining the company was
627
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,718
that you received shares.
628
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,998
I'm confident we have
a very good story to sell.
629
00:37:41,999 --> 00:37:44,439
We have a group of very committed
management and staff, all of us
630
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,638
working to make Ryanair a success
over the next four or five years.
631
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:51,199
This was going to be the real
catalyst to allow the airline to
632
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,998
really expand.
633
00:37:52,999 --> 00:37:55,318
Michael said, we're doing this.
634
00:37:55,319 --> 00:37:57,399
Expectations were high.
635
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,559
After 12 years of scraping, fighting
and elbowing its way into the market,
636
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,398
Ryanair was facing the
biggest test of its viability yet.
637
00:38:09,399 --> 00:38:13,398
On the day, there
was great excitement.
638
00:38:13,399 --> 00:38:17,319
For everybody in the company,
there was something at stake.
639
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,678
Watching the share price from the
sort of bottom left-hand corner of
640
00:38:29,679 --> 00:38:31,959
the graph at the opening of trading.
641
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,958
The sharp rise in value of Ryanair
shares within minutes of opening
642
00:38:38,959 --> 00:38:41,880
caught even the most
optimistic by surprise.
643
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,159
While analysts expected the
shares to trade at a premium, no one
644
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,239
expected the immediate
premium to be so much.
645
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:52,240
And the flotation
was an overwhelming success.
646
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,439
And so we finished up with a lot of
people in the company probably had
647
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,879
made enough to buy a car.
648
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:05,559
Ryanair's value has jumped from £307
million this morning to £390 million
649
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,318
this afternoon.
650
00:39:07,319 --> 00:39:11,759
Tony Ryan and his family saw the
value of their 35% stake go from
651
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:18,160
£100 million to £132 million, and
all in the space of just 10 minutes.
652
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,839
While one Ryan family
celebrated, another commiserated.
653
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,318
Many years before, under a
gentleman's agreement, Christy had
654
00:39:29,319 --> 00:39:33,800
handed back his shares to raise
cash for the fledgling operation.
655
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,958
My father missed Ryanair an
awful lot when he left the airline.
656
00:39:38,959 --> 00:39:42,038
Michael O'Leary has written to me
personally and said success has many
657
00:39:42,039 --> 00:39:44,879
fathers, and
definitely I agree with him.
658
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,559
To not really see the fruits of his
labour, you know, years down the
659
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,479
line, it's tinged with sadness.
660
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:57,358
Christy Ryan died in 2007 with no
connection to the airline he helped
start.
661
00:39:57,359 --> 00:40:01,759
So for me, it's just a great legacy
and we're just so proud to be part
of it.
662
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,599
I didn't want to cry.
663
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,599
No longer a scrappy disruptor,
Ryanair was becoming a main player.
664
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,598
Once the IPO had happened, they
could start buying new aircraft.
665
00:40:18,599 --> 00:40:21,879
And so they could go along with
the cash in hand and Michael's
666
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,398
negotiating ability
to Boeing and to Airbus.
667
00:40:25,399 --> 00:40:30,039
There was plans at the
time to purchase Airbus A320s.
668
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,398
I got a great photograph standing
in front of an Airbus engine.
669
00:40:34,399 --> 00:40:37,559
He had signed a letter of
intent with Airbus on a Friday.
670
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,799
Champagne had
been drunk in Toulouse.
671
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,159
He sent a letter of intent off to
Boeing over the weekend and said,
672
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,718
if you match this by Monday
morning, I'll go with you.
673
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,479
Boeing matched.
674
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,760
The deal was an order
of 45 new 737s for $2 billion.
675
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,760
I know that Airbus were very
unhappy, but that's the way business
is.
676
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:04,759
From Tony, he would have learned the
aggressive style, not taking no for
677
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,919
an answer and just do it, get out
and do it and don't hang around.
678
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,598
Michael's a predator.
679
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:12,759
If he can't go through
you, he'll go around you.
680
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,398
If I can draw an analogy between
a wildlife documentary where the
681
00:41:17,399 --> 00:41:21,919
wildebeest are drinking quietly
at the lake and then the crocodile
682
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,998
bursts out and grabs one of
the wildebeest, drags them to an
683
00:41:25,999 --> 00:41:30,439
untimely death, while the other
wildebeests swish their tails and
684
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,480
walk quietly off,
saying, thank God it wasn't me.
685
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,278
Well, that was not dissimilar
to a Monday morning meeting.
686
00:41:39,279 --> 00:41:43,119
Sometimes you got it
and sometimes you didn't.
687
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,638
Now, with a single fleet of
737s, Michael could fully realise the
688
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:50,038
vision of the Southwest model.
689
00:41:50,039 --> 00:41:55,638
The 737 was by far the most
successful short-haul airliner in
the world.
690
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:59,199
The thinking behind having
a common fleet is very simple.
691
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,318
If you have more than one type of
aeroplane, you have to hold spares
692
00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:05,839
for them, you have to have different
training, the pilots can't fly both,
693
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,038
so you have to have
a different set of pilots.
694
00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:11,319
Having one fleet
is just pure efficiency.
695
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,519
Michael implemented a feat of
operational brilliance that has
696
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:21,359
become industry standard in European
short-haul, the 25-minute turnaround.
697
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:25,199
At the time, the standard would
have been 45 minutes to an hour for
698
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,759
short-haul, and we cut it down
to 40 minutes and then to 35, and
699
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,239
eventually down to 25.
700
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:35,799
Planes on the ground cost
money, planes in the air make money.
701
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,078
When you hear Michael talk about it,
he just looks at it like it's a bus
702
00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:42,678
going from A to B, how
can I get most bums on seats?
703
00:42:42,679 --> 00:42:46,719
How can I do it at least cost
with the quickest turnaround time?
704
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,638
The 25-minute turnaround.
705
00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:53,799
When the plane lands, and what they
call taxi to the gate, once it's at
706
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,479
the gate, it takes 25 minutes
to take passengers off, to put
707
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,839
passengers on, taxi back out to
the runway, and off you go again.
708
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,759
There wasn't time to have a cup of
tea or a coffee on the turnaround.
709
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,079
You had to be more
efficient, be better prepared.
710
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,239
If that was repeated three and
four times a day, an extra pair of
711
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:17,920
flights could be operated each day.
712
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:21,879
Increase plane
use, increase profit.
713
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,958
The only pitfall, if you care about
that kind of thing, is the customer
experience.
714
00:43:26,959 --> 00:43:30,358
When you are boarded, you're
boarded at a really fast pace, the
715
00:43:30,359 --> 00:43:33,998
crew ushering you on, getting you
through as fast as you can, being
716
00:43:33,999 --> 00:43:35,919
quite assertive, quite pushy.
717
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,839
But the second you get through the
gate, you're all standing on the
stairs.
718
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,358
And you're
wondering, what's going on here?
719
00:43:40,359 --> 00:43:42,398
They've literally just made us run
and sweat, and now we're standing in
720
00:43:42,399 --> 00:43:43,759
the stairs.
721
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,159
But as you do that, you're
seeing people walk off the plane.
722
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,879
The next step then, they bring you
on to the tarmac, where you stop
again.
723
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,799
Sometimes it could be
raining, it's windy and it's cold.
724
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,678
People don't realise you're part of
the operational process, which means
725
00:43:55,679 --> 00:43:58,799
that your tickets are cheaper
because of this waltz that you're
726
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,398
doing with the airline.
727
00:44:00,399 --> 00:44:02,919
You know, you may
not have the best
728
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,278
user experience,
but you've got a
729
00:44:04,279 --> 00:44:06,479
really
low-cost flight.
730
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:11,039
The 25-minute turnaround became
central to everything Ryanair did.
731
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,038
We see most of our growth, certainly
next year and maybe the year after,
732
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:18,880
coming on these successful new
routes from London into continental
Europe.
733
00:44:19,399 --> 00:44:21,479
Europe was always on the agenda.
734
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,599
The two big markets
were Paris and Brussels.
735
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:29,638
Charles de Gaulle was the centre of
Air France's world and wasn't going
736
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:31,159
to cut
any sort of deal
737
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,760
with the
likes of Ryanair.
738
00:44:36,399 --> 00:44:40,879
The level of disinterest shown
by Orly reinforced the notion that
739
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,839
there wasn't going to be
the welcome mat shown in Europe.
740
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,718
It was kind of us
against the rest of the world.
741
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,759
Unable to wedge into established
airports, Ryanair deployed another
742
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,759
Southwest model strategy
and identified small airfields.
743
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,799
None of us knew where Beauvais
was, that Charleroi even existed.
744
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,638
The fact that Paris was about 75km
from Beauvais Airport mattered not.
745
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:07,398
You were flying to Paris,
which, of course, you were.
746
00:45:07,399 --> 00:45:11,278
Just not Paris as you
might have imagined it to be.
747
00:45:11,279 --> 00:45:13,398
Ryanair is the only airline in the
world that flies you from no place
748
00:45:13,399 --> 00:45:14,638
to no place.
749
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:16,358
Is Stansted a London airport?
750
00:45:16,359 --> 00:45:18,278
You're nearly in
Norwich, for God's sake.
751
00:45:18,279 --> 00:45:20,439
It's widely known at the moment
we've been talking to airports in
752
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,078
Germany, in
Scandinavia and in Italy.
753
00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:27,318
The first Copenhagen airport
it flew to wasn't even in Denmark.
754
00:45:27,319 --> 00:45:29,078
It was in Sweden.
755
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:32,599
You're only paying goddamn nine
euros for it, what do you expect?
756
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,119
On the very first day of Ryanair's
service to Paris, Aer Lingus took
757
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,919
out a full-paid advert which read,
Aer Lingus will take you to Paris
758
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,879
with a picture of the Eiffel
Tower and Arc de Triomphe, not
759
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,078
thereabouts, and a picture of a
haystack and a pitchfork in it.
760
00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:56,358
If nobody knew about Ryanair's
service to Paris starting that day,
761
00:45:56,359 --> 00:46:02,119
by God they did by the time Aer
Lingus had done all our marketing
for us.
762
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,038
I think we put together
a superb management team.
763
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:10,479
I also think we put together an
extraordinary bunch of young Irish
764
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:17,078
people, 600 of them, who work very
hard and just love doing what they
do.
765
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:20,919
Tony Ryan and Michael
O'Leary fought, like cat and dog.
766
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,879
Tony, while he wanted Ryanair to be
a low-cost airline, he also wanted
767
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,239
to be sort of a nice airline.
768
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:35,160
Michael O'Leary brought that
absolute direct cutting through all
opposition.
769
00:46:36,639 --> 00:46:39,078
That probably led to a little bit
more conflict than there should have
770
00:46:39,079 --> 00:46:40,759
been between the two men.
771
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,879
And we got to a stage in Ryanair
where it was Michael O'Leary who
772
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,840
made the decisions, not Tony Ryan.
773
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,519
Michael had taken the vision of the
men before him and executed it beyond
774
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,958
their wildest expectations.
775
00:46:52,959 --> 00:46:54,839
It's not a boom that we're
experiencing, it's a boom that
776
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,279
Ryanair has created.
777
00:46:57,039 --> 00:46:59,519
Ryanair's growth was exponential.
778
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,078
By the end of the 1990s, they
were now flying 5 million passengers
779
00:47:03,079 --> 00:47:07,879
annually and had increased
profits to 43 million punts.
780
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,998
He looked at all the numbers,
he'd say, how the hell can you fly
781
00:47:10,999 --> 00:47:14,718
somebody for a tenner
or 20 euro or whatever?
782
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,559
But he just manages to do it.
783
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,398
I don't know how
he does it, but he does.
784
00:47:19,399 --> 00:47:23,598
Given the huge job that Michael
had done in changing us into an
785
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:26,799
efficient low-cost carrier, we were
quite confident that we would be
786
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,880
able to take on
anybody and beat them.
787
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:34,759
Ryanair soared, confident in
its power to overcome any and all
788
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,598
challenges ahead.
789
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:40,958
It is the most extraordinary
commercial story in any country.
790
00:47:40,959 --> 00:47:43,638
Our shares have had a
very good run, we're up 18%.
791
00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:47,479
They are crass, they're rude,
they're not nice to customers.
792
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,998
Is the customer always right?
793
00:47:48,999 --> 00:47:51,318
No, the customer
is nearly always wrong.
794
00:47:51,319 --> 00:47:54,519
He really doesn't care
who he upsets or who he hurts.
795
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,199
If I were you, I'd go back to
where you came from, I'd go back to
Connemara.
796
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,439
Why Ryanair did its utmost
to put off people, I don't know.
797
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,278
You paid 1 euro 50 for this
flight, what do you think this is,
798
00:48:05,279 --> 00:48:07,038
the Orient Express?
799
00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:13,399
Dark patterns are practices that are
seen to be deceptive and misleading
to users.
800
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,560
The World Trade Centre attacks on
9-11 brought aviation to a halt.
801
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,598
Michael O'Leary arrived in Seattle.
802
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:23,398
It was certainly one of
the best deals in history.
803
00:48:23,399 --> 00:48:26,439
Yet, it's fair to say Ryanair is
fairly litigious, he says, shifting
804
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,880
in his seat.
805
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:30,519
Nobody looks like they're enjoying
themselves more than Michael O'Leary
806
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:31,920
in these pictures.
807
00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:37,038
Aviation is probably one of the
fastest ways you can burn fossil
808
00:48:37,039 --> 00:48:39,439
fuels and
Michael O'Leary knows this.
809
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,958
You're on record as saying emissions
are a load of bollocks talked up by
810
00:48:41,959 --> 00:48:43,959
sandal-wearing Greens.
811
00:48:45,319 --> 00:48:48,439
I've a feeling Donald Trump
studied the Michael O'Leary story.
812
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,240
Trump got elected by
being an arrogant little brat.
813
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:25,639
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