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I noticed that it was really, really dark on the inside.

The darkness in the hallways would swallow up the light.

When investigating a paranormal case,

it's just like investigating a crime.

You want to know whodunit, and you want to know why.

In the back of both of our minds, we knew that

there was something in that apartment.

Something followed me.

Something you definitely don't want to be followed by.

Anger is a powerful binding emotion,

especially when it comes to spirit.

It does have that feel that we are disturbing

somebody's resting place.

I was alone, and I was terrified.

She can no longer ignore it,

and she has to take action now.

- Who's there? - Could she be responsible?

It triggered a truly dark memory that I tried to bury.

I could absolutely see why they would want to get revenge.

I was more scared than I'd been

this entire time because that's my baby.

When I was telling my family

that we were going to be living

in Las Vegas, they were shocked.

They didn't think that's an actual place to live in.

They were thinking, oh,

are you gonna live in a hotel?

My fiance and I settled on a new suburb

on the south end of the city.

The rent here was cheaper,

a perfect place for a young couple

starting their lives together.

What I didn't know

is that something followed me... here.

Something you definitely don't want to be followed by.

So Leilani and I met almost 15, 16 years ago, and we were just

friends all the way up until about five years ago.

Johnathan is a character.

He is not the nicest when you first meet him, but that is

just his way of breaking down the type of person that

he keeps close to him.

But when you are in that close-knit group of people,

he cares for you deeply.

He will do anything for you.

And if you ask him something, even if it's out of the way,

he will drop everything for you.

It was December, and since this was my daughter's

first Christmas, I wanted to deck the halls of the apartment.

I had wrapped every single door with wrapping paper...

top to bottom.

I went crazy, a little too crazy if you ask Johnathan.

I woke up to an intense sound of rain.

It was as if you were standing

right under a tin roof

while it was raining on top of you.

- What is that? - Is it raining?

It's not raining.

And then I came to realize that it sounded like

somebody was dragging their hand down

our wrapping-paper door.

There's only three of us in our apartment, so there

shouldn't be anybody else there.

The first thing I did was check my daughter's room

because I thought that maybe there was an intruder

in the house. And nobody was in there.

I checked a couple other rooms,

realized that nobody was in there either.

There was nothing to do,

nothing that we could do about it.

We decided to just let it be.

Richard, take one. Mark.

When strange things start going on in your home,

your place of business, 99% of the time, we just want to

dismiss this stuff-- 99% of the time, we're right.

That creaking floorboard often is just a creaking floorboard.

Not everything is a ghost.

In fact, the vast majority of things are not a ghost.

But then you get down to those instances where there's

something stranger going on.

And in John and Leilani's case,

they're about to run headlong into one.

Leilani had a job at the apartments that we live at.

After a tenant moves out, my manager and I had to do

a routine move out check for any vacant apartments,

just to make sure there wasn't anything

left there, there was no damages

that we had to write down and get fixed.

There was a weird smell, like something was rotting.

I have this weird, overwhelming feeling that...

there's something in the bathroom.

Seeing what I saw in front of me and the feeling that I got

from it froze me.

But there was nothing there.

Are you okay?

Yeah.

I felt chills over my entire body.

I was scared.

- Let's get out of here. - Yeah.

I saw something run into the bathroom.

My manager, he was like, "I saw the same thing."

The brief moment that I had looking at this figure running

across the room, the movement of it was

very... odd. It kind of jerked as it ran,

but it looked like it glided as well.

So the movement was not of something

that a human could make.

There's nothing in there.

When this case begins, we're hearing the sound

of rain-- we're just hearing things.

We imagined it.

But then we start seeing other phenomena, and these other

phenomena involve different senses.

They start smelling things,

and then they start seeing things.

Now, any of our senses can be fooled.

When you start to see multiple senses,

at the same time, less likely that they're all being fooled.

- Let's just get out of here. - OK, I'll follow you.

As we left the unit, we were...

in a daze. It-- it didn't feel real.

Just both experiencing the exact same thing

and the entire feeling of the apartment,

the rotting smell, it felt...

very creepy.

When investigating a paranormal case,

it's just like investigating a crime.

You want to know whodunit, and you want to know why.

The best starting point is usually the location itself,

the place in which the incident occurred.

Not just the building itself,

but also the ground that it stands on.

Las Vegas is known as Sin City, and it was built by the mob.

And it's a city with a lot of blood on its hands and a lot of

blood in its history.

There are bodies in unmarked graves all over the place,

especially in the earlier days of Las Vegas.

Where John and Leilani live now is the outskirts of town.

It's a ordinary-looking subdivision.

Back in the early days of Vegas history, though, this would

have been desert, the kind of desert that's a great place to

go dispose of a body in the middle of the night.

Is it possible that the spirit

of somebody who was dumped in one of those unmarked graves

is restlessly wandering around and causing all

of the activity?

In the vacant apartment, for the longest time,

we couldn't get...

any power or any electricity in there.

It would say that it was on in the energy system and on

the computer, but every time we had the guys go there,

the power wouldn't work.

My manager and I chalked that incident up to, there might be

a faulty connection.

But in the back of both of our minds, we knew that...

there was something in that apartment.

Paranormal investigators have long noticed that there is

a link between electrical problems at a location

and paranormal activity.

It's very common for us to go into a location and find that

our freshly charged brand-new batteries are suddenly dead

after 20 minutes. Where is that energy going?

And the most common hypothesis

is that it's going to the spirits.

It is allowing them to fuel their manifestations.

It was just one thing after another, every single day.

We decided to share our experiences in our podcast.

This is our podcast studio, and we record every week after

10 PM, after the baby falls asleep.

Our podcast is called "Got Creeps?"

And we just chat about anything true crime,

anything paranormal, and anything that has to do

with anything creepy.

- You hear that? - What?

And I started hearing static.

Johnathan. Johnathan.

I don't know, it's--

It's loud.

Can you not hear it?

Johnathan.

Ugh... wha--

I'm coming for you.

I'm coming for you.

It was not only static, but it sounded like there was

a voice in there.

- Do you not hear it? - No.

I checked on my laptop how the sound was picking up,

and the static wasn't picking up on my soundboard.

The voice that I was hearing

wasn't getting picked up either.

The only thing that was getting picked up was me talking.

When she told me, I automatically believed her.

I didn't try to diffuse it in any way.

I was like, "OK, so what do we do about this?"

They're not dyed-in-the-wool skeptics.

They obviously have some degree of belief in the paranormal.

The fact is that when you open your mind

toward the paranormal, when you acknowledge

its existence or even its potential, sometimes it

shows an interest back in you.

Statistically, the likelihood that we're dealing with

a haunting because John and Leilani happened to move

into a house that happened to be in the vicinity of

one of these unmarked graves, at first glance, it seems to fit.

But here's the problem.

The paranormal activities seem pretty generic at first,

but as time has gone on,

it's gotten to be a little too close to home.

What we're dealing with is a pattern of events

that isn't random.

It seems to have taken on the characteristics

of a stalker.

Johnathan. Johnathan.

Johnathan...

So the next morning, Leilani is at work, and I get to work

editing the episode that we had just recorded, when I start

hearing the static and distortion as well.

Johnathan...

The biggest thing unusual about it is that I didn't see it

while we were recording.

But underneath all the static, it did sound like a voice.

John, John, Johnathan...

Johnathan...

I'm coming for you.

As this was happening, I started feeling this presence

behind me, this weird, heavy feeling that somebody

pushing up against me.

I was pretty scared because it was just me and the baby home.

When I turned around, nobody was there.

My daughter starts screaming and crying, so I get up

and I check.

And the swing starts moving and jittery like crazy.

I'm trying to, you know,

press the buttons to turn it off,

but nothing was working.

That's when I was more scared than I'd been

this entire time, because that's my baby.

I couldn't get it to stop, so the only thing

that I thought to do was unplug the entire thing.

And even after I unplugged it, the display stayed on,

and I couldn't explain that.

What's needed now is a motive

to explain the reason behind this haunting.

And just a few days later,

that motive is made all too clear.

A few days later, Leilani and the baby

had gone out shopping.

Lani, is that you?

Hello?

I went down the hallway. I checked every room.

I checked the bathroom.

And I especially wanted to check the baby's room.

And I even went as far as to check my room as well.

But nobody was there.

I couldn't explain it, but somehow somebody had walked

down this hallway and vanished into thin air.

Who or what is the entity in John and Leilani's apartment?

The one key piece comes into play.

It's what the spirit was wearing.

Now, I thought it was Leilani

because she did have long black hair.

But the woman that I saw was wearing a black dress.

Lani, is that you?

This is when everything started to click in my mind that these

instances were not just one-offs.

These instances were all connected in some sort of way.

I started feeling like this could be connected to something

that had happened to me

years ago when I was still in high school.

I'm coming for you.

A truly dark memory that I tried to bury.

My friends and I had just graduated high school.

We wanted to just have one last hurrah and just go

and do something crazy.

And in my hometown, there was this abandoned farmhouse that

had been there for years.

Everybody who grew up in this town knew that this house was

this creepy, old, haunted, abandoned house.

Don't be scared. It's gonna be fun.

OK, fine. I'm not scared.

Let's go in here.

We started having this uneasy feeling.

And we heard creaks that sounded

like people were walking on old wooden floorboards.

- Wait, do you guys hear that? - Quiet.

Hear what?

We were all together, so we knew that it wasn't one

of us making the noise.

- What was that? - What is that?

- Where? - She went over there.

Where?

Oh, my God.

I see this weird figure.

Johnathan.

We decided to instigate and say,

"I'm not scared of you."

John.

- Run! Run! Run! - Let's get out of here.

We all freaked out and ran.

I'm coming for you.

It's never a good idea to disrespect spirits.

The provocation that Johnathan did of the female spirit,

this has now come back to bite him.

There is a possibility that the reason he's being followed

is because he provoked that entity a long time ago

with his friends.

And he was kind of the one gathering everybody around

and leading everyone.

The entity may be following him because he seems like...

he was in charge.

Spirits don't necessarily work on the same timeframe as we do

in our material world.

So it may be that she has been biding her time, and now that

the time suits her, she is back and she's ready for revenge.

It has been three months since we first experienced the figure

in the apartment.

And to this day, it is still not rented.

We have tried renting it

and it doesn't seem to stick with anybody.

People may, once hearing the story, tell us to just

move, but I don't think it's the place.

I'm doing what I can to the best of my abilities

and what I know how to do.

We have crystals,

and we sage the house regularly for protection.

The three of us, my daughter, Johnathan, and I, we all sleep

in our room, and we haven't moved her to her room yet.

If this woman in black were to physically harm my daughter in

any way, that's when I would need to intervene and find

somebody to help me make this stop.

But the good thing is it hasn't gotten to that point yet.

I just would like whatever this is

to just finally leave us alone.

I don't know what will solve it,

but I just know that wherever we go, she will follow us.

I moved to Brandon in 2015.

Brandon is just outside of Tampa.

I was burned out from the rat race.

So I came here looking for a new start.

I fell in love with the area right away.

I'm a clinical transpersonal hypnotherapist, and this is

the building where I rented my office.

It was quiet, it was affordable, it was perfect.

But I was dead wrong.

Erin Goodpipe, Cahni Konig. Take one.

Cahni Konig's case is really interesting to me

because she's a hypnotherapist.

And you're delving into realms where there is a thin veil

or a doorway that's opened into the spiritual realm.

So I'm really fascinated by what happens here.

I just felt that this was the right place

for my practice.

There were massage therapists,

family therapists, and counselors.

So I felt like I fit in with the building.

When doing an investigation, the first thing that I look at

is the location of the haunting.

Florida, with so much haunted history, so many stories,

you know, of trauma.

We have everything from Civil Wars, we have plantations,

we have prisons.

So this really creates a hotbed

for paranormal activity to happen.

There could be angry spirits that want to be seen, that want

to be heard, that want their stories to be told.

Although this is a building with other tenants,

they just didn't seem to be here very often.

I was the only one here a lot of the time.

When I first came into the building, I noticed

that it was really, really dark on the inside.

Like the air was thicker,

even when there's lights in here.

And even when they've changed the bulbs,

it didn't really seem to matter.

It's kind of like the darkness

in the hallways would swallow up the light.

I couldn't shake the feeling of heaviness and dread,

and it just seemed to be getting worse.

I did ask the landlord about the building, and he said that

it had been a house when he purchased it

and he renovated it.

Cahni's building was actually built in the 1950s.

However, in the '90s, it was converted for commercial use.

You know, what people don't realize is that land

and property has so much history.

So maybe there's something from the past trying to

get her attention.

I was trying to ignore the darkness that I was feeling

in the building, but that didn't quite work out.

Hello?

I started hearing strange sounds.

It was kind of like it was scratching on the inside

of the wall.

I was scared out of my mind.

I would get phone calls

on my business line.

Hello?

They would just not say anything.

And I would just feel like I was being watched.

I felt like I wasn't safe.

When working on a case like Cahni's,

I find it to be extremely urgent.

She's working in this building alone,

so Cahni has to consider it can be

a very dangerous situation.

The clues so far, the feeling of being heavy

or heaviness, the feeling of being watched, of a threat,

or feeling a sense of fear, you know, they all could point

to a paranormal phenomena that's happening.

But first, we also have to rule out that it could be human.

We could have a stalker or an intruder on our hands here.

There are buildings on either side of this one.

And I know that one of the buildings has had issues

with homeless people breaking in and stealing things.

This right here is the back entrance to the building.

And, oftentimes, I had wondered if somebody was sneaking in

and out of the building.

So over here is Dark Park.

At night, it's extremely dark over there.

And there's plenty of places for people to hide.

So somebody could be sneaking over in the darkness, unseen.

And as a woman, I kind of wondered if maybe somebody was

after me, maybe somebody was stalking me, maybe I angered

a client or something along those lines.

I was wondering, why was it so intense?

Why was I feeling scared?

Why was I feeling like I was being targeted?

Thursday, the Fourth of July,

I'm not sure if you're taking the day off...

Cahni? Cahni?

- Are you there? - I was the only one in the office.

I saw a shadow.

I felt like this shadow was watching me.

I thought, what if it's trying to get in?

I was absolutely terrified.

And right here is the window to my office.

And this is where I saw that shadow figure.

And it was walking back and forth and back and forth.

It was really, really scary

because I had no clue what it was.

It was very dense. It was very dark.

I didn't see a lot of details with it.

But it definitely appeared to be a human-type shape.

Then it went off to the right, and it disappeared.

The next night, I was working late.

I had just come from the kitchen, and I was putting

my key in the door.

And I happened to glance over at my landlord's office.

Sir?

I had no idea where it went.

All I knew is that I was scared out of my mind.

I knew it was not a figment of my imagination.

There is a really special particular moment

in Cahni's case where this spirit is being watched

by Cahni, and he realizes that he's being watched,

that Cahni can see him.

And so now there's a connection that's potentially made here.

Paranormal activity is absolutely

what's going on right now.

Could the man in the window, but also the man that she saw

in the hallway, be the same person?

And if it is, who is it?

And then tomorrow we can do the same thing.

That works for me. Perfect.

OK, great, Cahni, thank you.

Perfect.

- I have to go. - Bye.

I started hearing this...

disembodied wailing sound.

Stop!

Stop!

It was a pained, suffering, suffering sound.

It was bone-chilling.

It has a very, very distinct sound.

Who's there?

Who's in the building?

I thought, what is that? Why is this happening?

- Are you there? - Cahni!

Cahni!

Cahni!

And then...

I heard it wailing my name. It shook me.

It just shook me to the core.

- Cahni! - Stop it!

- Cahni! - Stop it!

This was the most disturbing thing I have ever heard.

- Cahni! - Stop it!

It was just, you know, unbelievably loud.

Stop it!

Cahni!

Cahni!

Now, we really have to pay attention here to the way that

this spirit is calling Cahni's name and how Cahni is feeling

after hearing this spirit call her name.

It appears like this spirit is targeting Cahni specifically,

and I want to know why. What is the motive behind this?

It was a Friday.

It was late in the evening, and there was a heaviness.

I saw him again.

It was just very menacing.

Get out! I will kill you.

I truly felt like I was in danger.

I was totally helpless. I was vulnerable.

I didn't know what the limit was.

I didn't know what this guy could possibly do to me,

but I knew it wasn't gonna be anything good.

This entity has now put Cahni in a position where she can

no longer ignore it, and she has to take action now.

People had asked me, why don't you just move?

Why are you staying in this building?

And for some reason, I felt like I didn't want to go

and move out of the building and have some sort of regret

that this thing won.

I reached out to a really good medium.

Out of the blue, the medium said,

"He's really angry, huh?"

And I just looked at her and I said, "Yeah,

and I don't know what to do."

I know you're here.

I feel that the spirit turned its sights on Cahni

because of the fear.

Cahni was probably one of the first people that

encountered the spirit head-on.

It knew that Cahni was vulnerable and took advantage

of the situation that Cahni was in the building by herself,

and that she was someone that feared him.

He continued to terrorize her because he felt that

he could control her and the situation.

The medium told this man, "You're being stupid.

"You're choosing to trap yourself in this building.

"You're stuck in this human way of thinking when you're not

"even a human. You don't have to be here.

You don't have to do this."

And they said, "You're free."

And he left.

She said, "I think this has to do with your landlord."

This angry spirit was actually after my landlord.

The spirit was standing in front of

the landlord's office.

Cahni's landlord is a forensic psychologist, and they testify

if defendants are capable of standing trial,

which could piss off a lot of people.

In this case, he more than likely

sent this person to prison.

It's plausible for a spirit to be seeking revenge on someone

that would have sent them to prison, someone that would have

altered the course of their life.

I could absolutely see why they would want to get revenge.

My landlord was very clinical, very black-and-white.

I don't see him as being the type of person that would

believe in these types of things.

I felt like I was the one that was being targeted.

I was aware of him, and he was aware of the fact that I was

aware of him, I felt that I needed to deal with it

in some way, shape, or form.

I was really proud of the fact that Cahni stood up for

herself because oftentimes you get people who are living

in situations and they just say,

"OK, you can be the boss here."

But Cahni stood up to the spirit and said,

"I don't want to leave here." Um, you know,

and ultimately the spirit could go on.

And so it's just really important that we remember that

as people, that we can stand up to spirits and ultimately have

a humanity for the spiritual realm, for these spirits that

are here, because they are also going through a journey.

After the visit with the medium,

the building felt completely different.

It felt a lot lighter. It felt more welcoming.

But I never mentioned any of this to my landlord.

I definitely feel compassion for this spirit because of what

he was caught up in.

I have no clue how much time

he spent trapping himself in this building.

This angry spirit, he was once a human,

and he was so caught up

in everything that he had gone through,

it came with him even after his passing.

This whole experience made me

even more compassionate to people.

And so I think that it made me a more effective hypnotherapist

and more understanding.

So I really try to see all of the good things that came out

of this situation.