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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,543 --> 00:00:03,336 I noticed that it was really, really dark on the inside. 2 00:00:03,461 --> 00:00:07,173 The darkness in the hallways would swallow up the light. 3 00:00:07,298 --> 00:00:08,717 When investigating a paranormal case, 4 00:00:08,842 --> 00:00:11,011 it's just like investigating a crime. 5 00:00:11,094 --> 00:00:14,097 You want to know whodunit, and you want to know why. 6 00:00:14,180 --> 00:00:15,932 In the back of both of our minds, we knew that 7 00:00:16,016 --> 00:00:18,268 there was something in that apartment. 8 00:00:18,351 --> 00:00:19,686 Something followed me. 9 00:00:19,769 --> 00:00:21,896 Something you definitely don't want to be followed by. 10 00:00:23,106 --> 00:00:25,066 Anger is a powerful binding emotion, 11 00:00:25,191 --> 00:00:27,527 especially when it comes to spirit. 12 00:00:27,652 --> 00:00:31,031 It does have that feel that we are disturbing 13 00:00:31,114 --> 00:00:32,907 somebody's resting place. 14 00:00:33,033 --> 00:00:35,869 I was alone, and I was terrified. 15 00:00:37,746 --> 00:00:39,164 She can no longer ignore it, 16 00:00:39,247 --> 00:00:40,832 and she has to take action now. 17 00:00:40,915 --> 00:00:43,793 - Who's there? - Could she be responsible? 18 00:00:45,045 --> 00:00:48,089 It triggered a truly dark memory that I tried to bury. 19 00:00:49,758 --> 00:00:52,635 I could absolutely see why they would want to get revenge. 20 00:00:55,138 --> 00:00:56,681 I was more scared than I'd been 21 00:00:56,765 --> 00:00:59,225 this entire time because that's my baby. 22 00:01:44,479 --> 00:01:46,606 When I was telling my family 23 00:01:46,731 --> 00:01:48,274 that we were going to be living 24 00:01:48,399 --> 00:01:50,610 in Las Vegas, they were shocked. 25 00:01:50,735 --> 00:01:53,905 They didn't think that's an actual place to live in. 26 00:01:53,988 --> 00:01:54,948 They were thinking, oh, 27 00:01:55,073 --> 00:01:56,783 are you gonna live in a hotel? 28 00:02:00,620 --> 00:02:03,248 My fiance and I settled on a new suburb 29 00:02:03,331 --> 00:02:05,125 on the south end of the city. 30 00:02:05,250 --> 00:02:06,543 The rent here was cheaper, 31 00:02:06,626 --> 00:02:08,128 a perfect place for a young couple 32 00:02:08,211 --> 00:02:09,337 starting their lives together. 33 00:02:11,297 --> 00:02:12,966 What I didn't know 34 00:02:13,091 --> 00:02:14,968 is that something followed me... here. 35 00:02:16,219 --> 00:02:18,513 Something you definitely don't want to be followed by. 36 00:02:21,015 --> 00:02:26,980 So Leilani and I met almost 15, 16 years ago, and we were just 37 00:02:27,063 --> 00:02:30,483 friends all the way up until about five years ago. 38 00:02:30,608 --> 00:02:32,902 Johnathan is a character. 39 00:02:32,986 --> 00:02:37,532 He is not the nicest when you first meet him, but that is 40 00:02:37,657 --> 00:02:41,411 just his way of breaking down the type of person that 41 00:02:41,494 --> 00:02:43,496 he keeps close to him. 42 00:02:43,580 --> 00:02:46,624 But when you are in that close-knit group of people, 43 00:02:46,708 --> 00:02:48,251 he cares for you deeply. 44 00:02:48,334 --> 00:02:50,086 He will do anything for you. 45 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:53,882 And if you ask him something, even if it's out of the way, 46 00:02:54,007 --> 00:02:55,383 he will drop everything for you. 47 00:02:59,929 --> 00:03:03,766 It was December, and since this was my daughter's 48 00:03:03,850 --> 00:03:07,187 first Christmas, I wanted to deck the halls of the apartment. 49 00:03:10,690 --> 00:03:14,861 I had wrapped every single door with wrapping paper... 50 00:03:16,988 --> 00:03:18,198 top to bottom. 51 00:03:19,657 --> 00:03:22,827 I went crazy, a little too crazy if you ask Johnathan. 52 00:03:36,216 --> 00:03:38,676 I woke up to an intense sound of rain. 53 00:03:40,011 --> 00:03:42,180 It was as if you were standing 54 00:03:42,263 --> 00:03:44,807 right under a tin roof 55 00:03:44,891 --> 00:03:46,267 while it was raining on top of you. 56 00:03:51,272 --> 00:03:53,316 - What is that? - Is it raining? 57 00:04:05,203 --> 00:04:06,955 It's not raining. 58 00:04:13,586 --> 00:04:16,673 And then I came to realize that it sounded like 59 00:04:16,756 --> 00:04:19,592 somebody was dragging their hand down 60 00:04:19,676 --> 00:04:20,802 our wrapping-paper door. 61 00:04:25,723 --> 00:04:28,309 There's only three of us in our apartment, so there 62 00:04:28,434 --> 00:04:30,061 shouldn't be anybody else there. 63 00:04:46,286 --> 00:04:48,037 The first thing I did was check my daughter's room 64 00:04:48,121 --> 00:04:49,956 because I thought that maybe there was an intruder 65 00:04:50,081 --> 00:04:52,458 in the house. And nobody was in there. 66 00:04:52,542 --> 00:04:53,960 I checked a couple other rooms, 67 00:04:54,043 --> 00:04:55,837 realized that nobody was in there either. 68 00:04:57,297 --> 00:04:58,298 There was nothing to do, 69 00:04:58,423 --> 00:05:00,341 nothing that we could do about it. 70 00:05:03,970 --> 00:05:05,513 We decided to just let it be. 71 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,767 Richard, take one. Mark. 72 00:05:09,851 --> 00:05:11,811 When strange things start going on in your home, 73 00:05:11,894 --> 00:05:14,689 your place of business, 99% of the time, we just want to 74 00:05:14,814 --> 00:05:17,984 dismiss this stuff-- 99% of the time, we're right. 75 00:05:18,109 --> 00:05:20,862 That creaking floorboard often is just a creaking floorboard. 76 00:05:20,987 --> 00:05:22,071 Not everything is a ghost. 77 00:05:22,155 --> 00:05:24,741 In fact, the vast majority of things are not a ghost. 78 00:05:24,824 --> 00:05:26,951 But then you get down to those instances where there's 79 00:05:27,035 --> 00:05:28,244 something stranger going on. 80 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:29,829 And in John and Leilani's case, 81 00:05:29,954 --> 00:05:32,373 they're about to run headlong into one. 82 00:05:35,626 --> 00:05:38,838 Leilani had a job at the apartments that we live at. 83 00:05:42,008 --> 00:05:46,137 After a tenant moves out, my manager and I had to do 84 00:05:46,220 --> 00:05:49,182 a routine move out check for any vacant apartments, 85 00:05:49,265 --> 00:05:51,184 just to make sure there wasn't anything 86 00:05:51,267 --> 00:05:53,895 left there, there was no damages 87 00:05:54,020 --> 00:05:57,023 that we had to write down and get fixed. 88 00:06:05,448 --> 00:06:08,993 There was a weird smell, like something was rotting. 89 00:06:24,634 --> 00:06:28,388 I have this weird, overwhelming feeling that... 90 00:06:29,389 --> 00:06:31,724 there's something in the bathroom. 91 00:07:09,846 --> 00:07:12,807 Seeing what I saw in front of me and the feeling that I got 92 00:07:12,932 --> 00:07:14,475 from it froze me. 93 00:07:18,354 --> 00:07:19,522 But there was nothing there. 94 00:07:28,865 --> 00:07:29,949 Are you okay? 95 00:07:32,118 --> 00:07:32,994 Yeah. 96 00:07:33,119 --> 00:07:35,538 I felt chills over my entire body. 97 00:07:35,621 --> 00:07:36,789 I was scared. 98 00:07:36,873 --> 00:07:38,875 - Let's get out of here. - Yeah. 99 00:07:49,427 --> 00:07:52,221 I saw something run into the bathroom. 100 00:07:52,305 --> 00:07:54,432 My manager, he was like, "I saw the same thing." 101 00:07:57,643 --> 00:08:00,730 The brief moment that I had looking at this figure running 102 00:08:00,813 --> 00:08:04,484 across the room, the movement of it was 103 00:08:04,567 --> 00:08:09,322 very... odd. It kind of jerked as it ran, 104 00:08:10,615 --> 00:08:13,075 but it looked like it glided as well. 105 00:08:13,159 --> 00:08:14,660 So the movement was not of something 106 00:08:14,785 --> 00:08:16,329 that a human could make. 107 00:08:23,878 --> 00:08:25,379 There's nothing in there. 108 00:08:27,006 --> 00:08:29,008 When this case begins, we're hearing the sound 109 00:08:29,133 --> 00:08:30,593 of rain-- we're just hearing things. 110 00:08:30,676 --> 00:08:31,844 We imagined it. 111 00:08:31,928 --> 00:08:34,138 But then we start seeing other phenomena, and these other 112 00:08:34,222 --> 00:08:36,349 phenomena involve different senses. 113 00:08:36,432 --> 00:08:37,517 They start smelling things, 114 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,852 and then they start seeing things. 115 00:08:39,936 --> 00:08:41,646 Now, any of our senses can be fooled. 116 00:08:41,729 --> 00:08:44,357 When you start to see multiple senses, 117 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,152 at the same time, less likely that they're all being fooled. 118 00:08:48,236 --> 00:08:50,321 - Let's just get out of here. - OK, I'll follow you. 119 00:08:55,868 --> 00:08:58,371 As we left the unit, we were... 120 00:08:59,622 --> 00:09:03,834 in a daze. It-- it didn't feel real. 121 00:09:03,918 --> 00:09:07,296 Just both experiencing the exact same thing 122 00:09:07,380 --> 00:09:09,924 and the entire feeling of the apartment, 123 00:09:10,049 --> 00:09:12,218 the rotting smell, it felt... 124 00:09:13,386 --> 00:09:15,054 very creepy. 125 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:20,560 When investigating a paranormal case, 126 00:09:20,643 --> 00:09:22,812 it's just like investigating a crime. 127 00:09:22,895 --> 00:09:25,231 You want to know whodunit, and you want to know why. 128 00:09:28,943 --> 00:09:31,529 The best starting point is usually the location itself, 129 00:09:31,612 --> 00:09:33,447 the place in which the incident occurred. 130 00:09:33,573 --> 00:09:35,241 Not just the building itself, 131 00:09:35,366 --> 00:09:37,660 but also the ground that it stands on. 132 00:09:37,743 --> 00:09:41,122 Las Vegas is known as Sin City, and it was built by the mob. 133 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:44,584 And it's a city with a lot of blood on its hands and a lot of 134 00:09:44,709 --> 00:09:45,793 blood in its history. 135 00:09:45,918 --> 00:09:49,589 There are bodies in unmarked graves all over the place, 136 00:09:49,672 --> 00:09:51,674 especially in the earlier days of Las Vegas. 137 00:09:53,968 --> 00:09:57,096 Where John and Leilani live now is the outskirts of town. 138 00:09:57,221 --> 00:09:59,724 It's a ordinary-looking subdivision. 139 00:09:59,807 --> 00:10:02,435 Back in the early days of Vegas history, though, this would 140 00:10:02,518 --> 00:10:06,814 have been desert, the kind of desert that's a great place to 141 00:10:06,939 --> 00:10:09,108 go dispose of a body in the middle of the night. 142 00:10:11,902 --> 00:10:13,195 Is it possible that the spirit 143 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:16,407 of somebody who was dumped in one of those unmarked graves 144 00:10:16,490 --> 00:10:19,243 is restlessly wandering around and causing all 145 00:10:19,327 --> 00:10:20,328 of the activity? 146 00:10:26,042 --> 00:10:28,085 In the vacant apartment, for the longest time, 147 00:10:28,169 --> 00:10:29,170 we couldn't get... 148 00:10:30,338 --> 00:10:32,673 any power or any electricity in there. 149 00:10:32,798 --> 00:10:37,219 It would say that it was on in the energy system and on 150 00:10:37,303 --> 00:10:41,265 the computer, but every time we had the guys go there, 151 00:10:41,349 --> 00:10:42,350 the power wouldn't work. 152 00:10:43,851 --> 00:10:47,355 My manager and I chalked that incident up to, there might be 153 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,273 a faulty connection. 154 00:10:49,357 --> 00:10:51,651 But in the back of both of our minds, we knew that... 155 00:10:52,693 --> 00:10:54,487 there was something in that apartment. 156 00:10:56,781 --> 00:10:59,033 Paranormal investigators have long noticed that there is 157 00:10:59,158 --> 00:11:01,869 a link between electrical problems at a location 158 00:11:01,994 --> 00:11:03,329 and paranormal activity. 159 00:11:03,454 --> 00:11:06,666 It's very common for us to go into a location and find that 160 00:11:06,749 --> 00:11:09,669 our freshly charged brand-new batteries are suddenly dead 161 00:11:09,752 --> 00:11:12,213 after 20 minutes. Where is that energy going? 162 00:11:12,338 --> 00:11:13,464 And the most common hypothesis 163 00:11:13,547 --> 00:11:15,841 is that it's going to the spirits. 164 00:11:15,925 --> 00:11:19,011 It is allowing them to fuel their manifestations. 165 00:11:21,347 --> 00:11:24,809 It was just one thing after another, every single day. 166 00:11:24,892 --> 00:11:27,728 We decided to share our experiences in our podcast. 167 00:11:29,939 --> 00:11:34,026 This is our podcast studio, and we record every week after 168 00:11:34,110 --> 00:11:36,696 10 PM, after the baby falls asleep. 169 00:11:36,779 --> 00:11:38,864 Our podcast is called "Got Creeps?" 170 00:11:38,989 --> 00:11:42,451 And we just chat about anything true crime, 171 00:11:42,535 --> 00:11:45,663 anything paranormal, and anything that has to do 172 00:11:45,746 --> 00:11:47,248 with anything creepy. 173 00:11:49,417 --> 00:11:50,918 - You hear that? - What? 174 00:11:52,962 --> 00:11:54,797 And I started hearing static. 175 00:11:58,050 --> 00:12:02,805 Johnathan. Johnathan. 176 00:12:02,888 --> 00:12:04,223 I don't know, it's-- 177 00:12:04,348 --> 00:12:06,058 It's loud. 178 00:12:07,226 --> 00:12:08,144 Can you not hear it? 179 00:12:10,020 --> 00:12:12,440 Johnathan. 180 00:12:12,565 --> 00:12:13,858 Ugh... wha-- 181 00:12:13,941 --> 00:12:15,443 I'm coming for you. 182 00:12:24,118 --> 00:12:25,828 I'm coming for you. 183 00:12:33,461 --> 00:12:36,464 It was not only static, but it sounded like there was 184 00:12:36,547 --> 00:12:37,548 a voice in there. 185 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:43,012 - Do you not hear it? - No. 186 00:12:44,597 --> 00:12:47,516 I checked on my laptop how the sound was picking up, 187 00:12:48,517 --> 00:12:52,313 and the static wasn't picking up on my soundboard. 188 00:12:52,396 --> 00:12:53,898 The voice that I was hearing 189 00:12:54,023 --> 00:12:55,524 wasn't getting picked up either. 190 00:12:55,608 --> 00:12:57,902 The only thing that was getting picked up was me talking. 191 00:12:58,903 --> 00:13:01,030 When she told me, I automatically believed her. 192 00:13:01,113 --> 00:13:03,324 I didn't try to diffuse it in any way. 193 00:13:03,407 --> 00:13:05,117 I was like, "OK, so what do we do about this?" 194 00:13:13,292 --> 00:13:15,211 They're not dyed-in-the-wool skeptics. 195 00:13:15,294 --> 00:13:18,088 They obviously have some degree of belief in the paranormal. 196 00:13:19,882 --> 00:13:22,134 The fact is that when you open your mind 197 00:13:22,259 --> 00:13:23,844 toward the paranormal, when you acknowledge 198 00:13:23,928 --> 00:13:26,889 its existence or even its potential, sometimes it 199 00:13:26,972 --> 00:13:28,766 shows an interest back in you. 200 00:13:28,849 --> 00:13:30,851 Statistically, the likelihood that we're dealing with 201 00:13:30,935 --> 00:13:34,480 a haunting because John and Leilani happened to move 202 00:13:34,605 --> 00:13:38,442 into a house that happened to be in the vicinity of 203 00:13:38,526 --> 00:13:41,278 one of these unmarked graves, at first glance, it seems to fit. 204 00:13:41,362 --> 00:13:42,947 But here's the problem. 205 00:13:43,030 --> 00:13:45,574 The paranormal activities seem pretty generic at first, 206 00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:46,867 but as time has gone on, 207 00:13:46,951 --> 00:13:49,328 it's gotten to be a little too close to home. 208 00:13:51,247 --> 00:13:52,998 What we're dealing with is a pattern of events 209 00:13:53,123 --> 00:13:55,292 that isn't random. 210 00:13:55,417 --> 00:13:57,837 It seems to have taken on the characteristics 211 00:13:57,962 --> 00:13:59,171 of a stalker. 212 00:14:08,222 --> 00:14:12,810 Johnathan. Johnathan. 213 00:14:12,893 --> 00:14:14,186 Johnathan... 214 00:14:14,311 --> 00:14:17,773 So the next morning, Leilani is at work, and I get to work 215 00:14:17,857 --> 00:14:21,443 editing the episode that we had just recorded, when I start 216 00:14:21,527 --> 00:14:23,821 hearing the static and distortion as well. 217 00:14:25,364 --> 00:14:27,074 Johnathan... 218 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:33,789 The biggest thing unusual about it is that I didn't see it 219 00:14:33,873 --> 00:14:35,416 while we were recording. 220 00:14:35,499 --> 00:14:39,628 But underneath all the static, it did sound like a voice. 221 00:14:40,963 --> 00:14:44,633 John, John, Johnathan... 222 00:14:48,762 --> 00:14:51,348 Johnathan... 223 00:14:54,685 --> 00:14:56,520 I'm coming for you. 224 00:14:58,397 --> 00:15:01,275 As this was happening, I started feeling this presence 225 00:15:01,358 --> 00:15:05,029 behind me, this weird, heavy feeling that somebody 226 00:15:05,154 --> 00:15:06,864 pushing up against me. 227 00:15:06,947 --> 00:15:10,618 I was pretty scared because it was just me and the baby home. 228 00:15:24,256 --> 00:15:26,383 When I turned around, nobody was there. 229 00:15:30,554 --> 00:15:33,349 My daughter starts screaming and crying, so I get up 230 00:15:33,432 --> 00:15:34,433 and I check. 231 00:15:41,565 --> 00:15:44,818 And the swing starts moving and jittery like crazy. 232 00:15:44,902 --> 00:15:45,945 I'm trying to, you know, 233 00:15:46,070 --> 00:15:47,529 press the buttons to turn it off, 234 00:15:47,613 --> 00:15:49,031 but nothing was working. 235 00:15:54,078 --> 00:15:57,247 That's when I was more scared than I'd been 236 00:15:57,331 --> 00:16:01,210 this entire time, because that's my baby. 237 00:16:13,180 --> 00:16:15,182 I couldn't get it to stop, so the only thing 238 00:16:15,265 --> 00:16:18,852 that I thought to do was unplug the entire thing. 239 00:16:18,936 --> 00:16:22,106 And even after I unplugged it, the display stayed on, 240 00:16:22,231 --> 00:16:24,274 and I couldn't explain that. 241 00:16:27,528 --> 00:16:28,988 What's needed now is a motive 242 00:16:29,113 --> 00:16:31,323 to explain the reason behind this haunting. 243 00:16:31,448 --> 00:16:32,783 And just a few days later, 244 00:16:32,908 --> 00:16:35,202 that motive is made all too clear. 245 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,837 A few days later, Leilani and the baby 246 00:16:44,962 --> 00:16:46,213 had gone out shopping. 247 00:16:54,722 --> 00:16:55,973 Lani, is that you? 248 00:16:59,810 --> 00:17:00,936 Hello? 249 00:17:11,697 --> 00:17:15,659 I went down the hallway. I checked every room. 250 00:17:17,202 --> 00:17:19,830 I checked the bathroom. 251 00:17:19,955 --> 00:17:22,082 And I especially wanted to check the baby's room. 252 00:17:23,667 --> 00:17:27,337 And I even went as far as to check my room as well. 253 00:17:27,463 --> 00:17:29,840 But nobody was there. 254 00:17:29,965 --> 00:17:33,469 I couldn't explain it, but somehow somebody had walked 255 00:17:33,552 --> 00:17:37,306 down this hallway and vanished into thin air. 256 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,397 Who or what is the entity in John and Leilani's apartment? 257 00:17:45,522 --> 00:17:48,484 The one key piece comes into play. 258 00:17:48,567 --> 00:17:50,861 It's what the spirit was wearing. 259 00:17:51,904 --> 00:17:53,280 Now, I thought it was Leilani 260 00:17:53,363 --> 00:17:56,241 because she did have long black hair. 261 00:17:58,702 --> 00:18:01,747 But the woman that I saw was wearing a black dress. 262 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,124 Lani, is that you? 263 00:18:06,043 --> 00:18:10,172 This is when everything started to click in my mind that these 264 00:18:10,255 --> 00:18:12,966 instances were not just one-offs. 265 00:18:14,301 --> 00:18:19,014 These instances were all connected in some sort of way. 266 00:18:19,098 --> 00:18:21,892 I started feeling like this could be connected to something 267 00:18:21,975 --> 00:18:23,185 that had happened to me 268 00:18:23,268 --> 00:18:25,562 years ago when I was still in high school. 269 00:18:25,687 --> 00:18:27,564 I'm coming for you. 270 00:18:29,108 --> 00:18:31,944 A truly dark memory that I tried to bury. 271 00:18:43,372 --> 00:18:46,834 My friends and I had just graduated high school. 272 00:18:46,917 --> 00:18:51,296 We wanted to just have one last hurrah and just go 273 00:18:51,380 --> 00:18:53,423 and do something crazy. 274 00:18:53,549 --> 00:18:58,804 And in my hometown, there was this abandoned farmhouse that 275 00:18:58,887 --> 00:19:00,097 had been there for years. 276 00:19:03,225 --> 00:19:08,021 Everybody who grew up in this town knew that this house was 277 00:19:08,105 --> 00:19:10,107 this creepy, old, haunted, abandoned house. 278 00:19:18,490 --> 00:19:19,825 Don't be scared. It's gonna be fun. 279 00:19:19,908 --> 00:19:21,660 OK, fine. I'm not scared. 280 00:19:21,743 --> 00:19:23,287 Let's go in here. 281 00:19:23,412 --> 00:19:25,831 We started having this uneasy feeling. 282 00:19:25,914 --> 00:19:27,875 And we heard creaks that sounded 283 00:19:27,958 --> 00:19:30,752 like people were walking on old wooden floorboards. 284 00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:35,257 - Wait, do you guys hear that? - Quiet. 285 00:19:35,382 --> 00:19:36,758 Hear what? 286 00:19:36,842 --> 00:19:39,803 We were all together, so we knew that it wasn't one 287 00:19:39,928 --> 00:19:41,054 of us making the noise. 288 00:19:47,853 --> 00:19:49,354 - What was that? - What is that? 289 00:19:49,438 --> 00:19:52,107 - Where? - She went over there. 290 00:19:52,232 --> 00:19:53,317 Where? 291 00:19:56,612 --> 00:19:57,613 Oh, my God. 292 00:20:03,410 --> 00:20:05,329 I see this weird figure. 293 00:20:06,455 --> 00:20:07,706 Johnathan. 294 00:20:09,124 --> 00:20:12,377 We decided to instigate and say, 295 00:20:12,461 --> 00:20:13,837 "I'm not scared of you." 296 00:20:15,005 --> 00:20:16,131 John. 297 00:20:17,841 --> 00:20:19,801 - Run! Run! Run! - Let's get out of here. 298 00:20:19,885 --> 00:20:22,387 We all freaked out and ran. 299 00:20:22,471 --> 00:20:24,973 I'm coming for you. 300 00:20:26,558 --> 00:20:28,518 It's never a good idea to disrespect spirits. 301 00:20:28,644 --> 00:20:32,147 The provocation that Johnathan did of the female spirit, 302 00:20:32,272 --> 00:20:33,982 this has now come back to bite him. 303 00:20:34,107 --> 00:20:38,779 There is a possibility that the reason he's being followed 304 00:20:38,862 --> 00:20:42,407 is because he provoked that entity a long time ago 305 00:20:42,491 --> 00:20:44,076 with his friends. 306 00:20:44,159 --> 00:20:47,037 And he was kind of the one gathering everybody around 307 00:20:47,162 --> 00:20:49,081 and leading everyone. 308 00:20:49,164 --> 00:20:53,001 The entity may be following him because he seems like... 309 00:20:54,336 --> 00:20:56,505 he was in charge. 310 00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:59,716 Spirits don't necessarily work on the same timeframe as we do 311 00:20:59,841 --> 00:21:01,218 in our material world. 312 00:21:01,343 --> 00:21:04,596 So it may be that she has been biding her time, and now that 313 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,350 the time suits her, she is back and she's ready for revenge. 314 00:21:10,394 --> 00:21:14,648 It has been three months since we first experienced the figure 315 00:21:14,731 --> 00:21:16,233 in the apartment. 316 00:21:16,358 --> 00:21:19,611 And to this day, it is still not rented. 317 00:21:19,695 --> 00:21:21,863 We have tried renting it 318 00:21:21,989 --> 00:21:24,700 and it doesn't seem to stick with anybody. 319 00:21:28,078 --> 00:21:31,873 People may, once hearing the story, tell us to just 320 00:21:31,999 --> 00:21:36,378 move, but I don't think it's the place. 321 00:21:37,629 --> 00:21:39,548 I'm doing what I can to the best of my abilities 322 00:21:39,631 --> 00:21:43,010 and what I know how to do. 323 00:21:43,093 --> 00:21:44,886 We have crystals, 324 00:21:45,012 --> 00:21:48,807 and we sage the house regularly for protection. 325 00:21:48,890 --> 00:21:51,226 The three of us, my daughter, Johnathan, and I, we all sleep 326 00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:55,105 in our room, and we haven't moved her to her room yet. 327 00:21:57,357 --> 00:22:01,528 If this woman in black were to physically harm my daughter in 328 00:22:01,611 --> 00:22:07,409 any way, that's when I would need to intervene and find 329 00:22:07,492 --> 00:22:09,953 somebody to help me make this stop. 330 00:22:10,078 --> 00:22:12,622 But the good thing is it hasn't gotten to that point yet. 331 00:22:13,749 --> 00:22:16,168 I just would like whatever this is 332 00:22:16,251 --> 00:22:18,420 to just finally leave us alone. 333 00:22:20,672 --> 00:22:21,923 I don't know what will solve it, 334 00:22:23,091 --> 00:22:26,261 but I just know that wherever we go, she will follow us. 335 00:23:01,963 --> 00:23:04,925 I moved to Brandon in 2015. 336 00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:07,469 Brandon is just outside of Tampa. 337 00:23:08,595 --> 00:23:10,555 I was burned out from the rat race. 338 00:23:10,639 --> 00:23:13,433 So I came here looking for a new start. 339 00:23:13,558 --> 00:23:15,769 I fell in love with the area right away. 340 00:23:15,852 --> 00:23:19,773 I'm a clinical transpersonal hypnotherapist, and this is 341 00:23:19,856 --> 00:23:21,817 the building where I rented my office. 342 00:23:22,818 --> 00:23:26,363 It was quiet, it was affordable, it was perfect. 343 00:23:27,781 --> 00:23:28,782 But I was dead wrong. 344 00:23:39,626 --> 00:23:41,586 Erin Goodpipe, Cahni Konig. Take one. 345 00:23:43,547 --> 00:23:46,341 Cahni Konig's case is really interesting to me 346 00:23:46,466 --> 00:23:48,135 because she's a hypnotherapist. 347 00:23:48,260 --> 00:23:52,180 And you're delving into realms where there is a thin veil 348 00:23:52,305 --> 00:23:54,933 or a doorway that's opened into the spiritual realm. 349 00:23:55,016 --> 00:23:58,145 So I'm really fascinated by what happens here. 350 00:24:00,647 --> 00:24:02,941 I just felt that this was the right place 351 00:24:03,024 --> 00:24:04,359 for my practice. 352 00:24:04,484 --> 00:24:05,652 There were massage therapists, 353 00:24:05,777 --> 00:24:08,572 family therapists, and counselors. 354 00:24:08,655 --> 00:24:11,992 So I felt like I fit in with the building. 355 00:24:16,413 --> 00:24:19,416 When doing an investigation, the first thing that I look at 356 00:24:19,499 --> 00:24:21,334 is the location of the haunting. 357 00:24:23,253 --> 00:24:28,300 Florida, with so much haunted history, so many stories, 358 00:24:28,383 --> 00:24:29,634 you know, of trauma. 359 00:24:31,887 --> 00:24:34,514 We have everything from Civil Wars, we have plantations, 360 00:24:34,598 --> 00:24:36,057 we have prisons. 361 00:24:36,183 --> 00:24:37,976 So this really creates a hotbed 362 00:24:38,059 --> 00:24:40,729 for paranormal activity to happen. 363 00:24:43,607 --> 00:24:47,319 There could be angry spirits that want to be seen, that want 364 00:24:47,402 --> 00:24:49,529 to be heard, that want their stories to be told. 365 00:24:53,575 --> 00:24:57,454 Although this is a building with other tenants, 366 00:24:57,537 --> 00:24:59,873 they just didn't seem to be here very often. 367 00:25:01,541 --> 00:25:03,960 I was the only one here a lot of the time. 368 00:25:08,215 --> 00:25:10,550 When I first came into the building, I noticed 369 00:25:10,634 --> 00:25:13,386 that it was really, really dark on the inside. 370 00:25:13,470 --> 00:25:15,680 Like the air was thicker, 371 00:25:15,764 --> 00:25:17,891 even when there's lights in here. 372 00:25:20,268 --> 00:25:21,895 And even when they've changed the bulbs, 373 00:25:21,978 --> 00:25:23,313 it didn't really seem to matter. 374 00:25:23,396 --> 00:25:25,398 It's kind of like the darkness 375 00:25:25,482 --> 00:25:27,734 in the hallways would swallow up the light. 376 00:25:35,075 --> 00:25:39,204 I couldn't shake the feeling of heaviness and dread, 377 00:25:39,287 --> 00:25:42,040 and it just seemed to be getting worse. 378 00:25:42,123 --> 00:25:45,877 I did ask the landlord about the building, and he said that 379 00:25:45,961 --> 00:25:48,088 it had been a house when he purchased it 380 00:25:48,171 --> 00:25:49,631 and he renovated it. 381 00:25:53,093 --> 00:25:56,680 Cahni's building was actually built in the 1950s. 382 00:25:56,763 --> 00:25:59,891 However, in the '90s, it was converted for commercial use. 383 00:26:01,226 --> 00:26:04,604 You know, what people don't realize is that land 384 00:26:04,688 --> 00:26:06,982 and property has so much history. 385 00:26:07,107 --> 00:26:09,776 So maybe there's something from the past trying to 386 00:26:09,901 --> 00:26:10,902 get her attention. 387 00:26:14,072 --> 00:26:16,616 I was trying to ignore the darkness that I was feeling 388 00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:19,619 in the building, but that didn't quite work out. 389 00:26:24,749 --> 00:26:25,750 Hello? 390 00:26:46,896 --> 00:26:48,481 I started hearing strange sounds. 391 00:26:56,197 --> 00:26:59,909 It was kind of like it was scratching on the inside 392 00:26:59,993 --> 00:27:00,994 of the wall. 393 00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:17,260 I was scared out of my mind. 394 00:27:35,362 --> 00:27:36,613 I would get phone calls 395 00:27:37,614 --> 00:27:38,615 on my business line. 396 00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:42,160 Hello? 397 00:27:47,707 --> 00:27:49,709 They would just not say anything. 398 00:27:53,838 --> 00:27:55,924 And I would just feel like I was being watched. 399 00:28:01,638 --> 00:28:03,014 I felt like I wasn't safe. 400 00:28:11,606 --> 00:28:14,150 When working on a case like Cahni's, 401 00:28:14,234 --> 00:28:16,444 I find it to be extremely urgent. 402 00:28:16,569 --> 00:28:19,114 She's working in this building alone, 403 00:28:19,239 --> 00:28:21,032 so Cahni has to consider it can be 404 00:28:21,116 --> 00:28:22,575 a very dangerous situation. 405 00:28:26,287 --> 00:28:29,165 The clues so far, the feeling of being heavy 406 00:28:29,249 --> 00:28:32,419 or heaviness, the feeling of being watched, of a threat, 407 00:28:32,502 --> 00:28:35,797 or feeling a sense of fear, you know, they all could point 408 00:28:35,922 --> 00:28:39,092 to a paranormal phenomena that's happening. 409 00:28:39,175 --> 00:28:43,012 But first, we also have to rule out that it could be human. 410 00:28:43,096 --> 00:28:46,266 We could have a stalker or an intruder on our hands here. 411 00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:02,407 There are buildings on either side of this one. 412 00:29:02,532 --> 00:29:05,285 And I know that one of the buildings has had issues 413 00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:08,163 with homeless people breaking in and stealing things. 414 00:29:10,582 --> 00:29:13,960 This right here is the back entrance to the building. 415 00:29:14,085 --> 00:29:18,089 And, oftentimes, I had wondered if somebody was sneaking in 416 00:29:18,214 --> 00:29:19,215 and out of the building. 417 00:29:25,722 --> 00:29:28,099 So over here is Dark Park. 418 00:29:31,603 --> 00:29:34,606 At night, it's extremely dark over there. 419 00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:39,152 And there's plenty of places for people to hide. 420 00:29:41,780 --> 00:29:45,784 So somebody could be sneaking over in the darkness, unseen. 421 00:29:47,619 --> 00:29:52,457 And as a woman, I kind of wondered if maybe somebody was 422 00:29:52,540 --> 00:29:56,002 after me, maybe somebody was stalking me, maybe I angered 423 00:29:56,127 --> 00:29:57,962 a client or something along those lines. 424 00:30:05,512 --> 00:30:10,266 I was wondering, why was it so intense? 425 00:30:10,350 --> 00:30:13,478 Why was I feeling scared? 426 00:30:13,561 --> 00:30:16,689 Why was I feeling like I was being targeted? 427 00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:19,692 Thursday, the Fourth of July, 428 00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:21,945 I'm not sure if you're taking the day off... 429 00:30:22,028 --> 00:30:24,614 Cahni? Cahni? 430 00:30:24,697 --> 00:30:26,491 - Are you there? - I was the only one in the office. 431 00:30:31,955 --> 00:30:33,414 I saw a shadow. 432 00:30:38,795 --> 00:30:42,340 I felt like this shadow was watching me. 433 00:30:47,554 --> 00:30:49,430 I thought, what if it's trying to get in? 434 00:30:57,188 --> 00:30:58,690 I was absolutely terrified. 435 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,913 And right here is the window to my office. 436 00:31:14,038 --> 00:31:16,249 And this is where I saw that shadow figure. 437 00:31:16,374 --> 00:31:23,172 And it was walking back and forth and back and forth. 438 00:31:23,256 --> 00:31:24,883 It was really, really scary 439 00:31:24,966 --> 00:31:26,259 because I had no clue what it was. 440 00:31:30,638 --> 00:31:33,391 It was very dense. It was very dark. 441 00:31:33,474 --> 00:31:35,727 I didn't see a lot of details with it. 442 00:31:35,810 --> 00:31:39,397 But it definitely appeared to be a human-type shape. 443 00:31:45,904 --> 00:31:48,031 Then it went off to the right, and it disappeared. 444 00:31:55,788 --> 00:31:58,041 The next night, I was working late. 445 00:31:58,124 --> 00:32:02,128 I had just come from the kitchen, and I was putting 446 00:32:02,253 --> 00:32:03,671 my key in the door. 447 00:32:03,755 --> 00:32:07,425 And I happened to glance over at my landlord's office. 448 00:32:18,227 --> 00:32:19,270 Sir? 449 00:32:49,467 --> 00:32:51,135 I had no idea where it went. 450 00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:55,390 All I knew is that I was scared out of my mind. 451 00:32:58,851 --> 00:33:01,145 I knew it was not a figment of my imagination. 452 00:33:08,987 --> 00:33:11,990 There is a really special particular moment 453 00:33:12,073 --> 00:33:15,994 in Cahni's case where this spirit is being watched 454 00:33:16,077 --> 00:33:19,455 by Cahni, and he realizes that he's being watched, 455 00:33:19,539 --> 00:33:21,833 that Cahni can see him. 456 00:33:21,916 --> 00:33:25,503 And so now there's a connection that's potentially made here. 457 00:33:25,628 --> 00:33:27,880 Paranormal activity is absolutely 458 00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:29,632 what's going on right now. 459 00:33:29,716 --> 00:33:32,677 Could the man in the window, but also the man that she saw 460 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,679 in the hallway, be the same person? 461 00:33:34,762 --> 00:33:36,014 And if it is, who is it? 462 00:33:41,394 --> 00:33:44,022 And then tomorrow we can do the same thing. 463 00:33:44,105 --> 00:33:45,106 That works for me. Perfect. 464 00:33:45,189 --> 00:33:46,524 OK, great, Cahni, thank you. 465 00:33:46,607 --> 00:33:47,608 Perfect. 466 00:33:52,947 --> 00:33:54,490 - I have to go. - Bye. 467 00:34:09,547 --> 00:34:10,631 I started hearing this... 468 00:34:11,674 --> 00:34:13,634 disembodied wailing sound. 469 00:34:17,972 --> 00:34:19,182 Stop! 470 00:34:23,311 --> 00:34:24,353 Stop! 471 00:34:24,437 --> 00:34:28,691 It was a pained, suffering, suffering sound. 472 00:34:28,775 --> 00:34:30,026 It was bone-chilling. 473 00:34:30,109 --> 00:34:32,278 It has a very, very distinct sound. 474 00:34:35,782 --> 00:34:36,866 Who's there? 475 00:34:38,451 --> 00:34:40,703 Who's in the building? 476 00:34:42,413 --> 00:34:46,459 I thought, what is that? Why is this happening? 477 00:34:47,794 --> 00:34:49,962 - Are you there? - Cahni! 478 00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:56,219 Cahni! 479 00:34:59,097 --> 00:35:01,724 Cahni! 480 00:35:01,808 --> 00:35:03,017 And then... 481 00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:06,646 I heard it wailing my name. It shook me. 482 00:35:06,771 --> 00:35:08,606 It just shook me to the core. 483 00:35:08,689 --> 00:35:10,775 - Cahni! - Stop it! 484 00:35:19,075 --> 00:35:20,827 - Cahni! - Stop it! 485 00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:24,956 This was the most disturbing thing I have ever heard. 486 00:35:25,081 --> 00:35:27,458 - Cahni! - Stop it! 487 00:35:27,583 --> 00:35:30,336 It was just, you know, unbelievably loud. 488 00:35:30,419 --> 00:35:32,421 Stop it! 489 00:35:34,590 --> 00:35:36,592 Cahni! 490 00:35:38,636 --> 00:35:40,930 Cahni! 491 00:35:42,765 --> 00:35:45,643 Now, we really have to pay attention here to the way that 492 00:35:45,768 --> 00:35:50,189 this spirit is calling Cahni's name and how Cahni is feeling 493 00:35:50,273 --> 00:35:52,358 after hearing this spirit call her name. 494 00:35:52,441 --> 00:35:56,946 It appears like this spirit is targeting Cahni specifically, 495 00:35:57,029 --> 00:35:59,866 and I want to know why. What is the motive behind this? 496 00:36:05,037 --> 00:36:06,914 It was a Friday. 497 00:36:06,998 --> 00:36:10,877 It was late in the evening, and there was a heaviness. 498 00:36:22,430 --> 00:36:23,431 I saw him again. 499 00:36:25,516 --> 00:36:26,893 It was just very menacing. 500 00:36:28,144 --> 00:36:31,772 Get out! I will kill you. 501 00:36:39,113 --> 00:36:40,656 I truly felt like I was in danger. 502 00:36:43,326 --> 00:36:45,494 I was totally helpless. I was vulnerable. 503 00:36:45,578 --> 00:36:47,705 I didn't know what the limit was. 504 00:36:47,830 --> 00:36:51,000 I didn't know what this guy could possibly do to me, 505 00:36:51,125 --> 00:36:52,668 but I knew it wasn't gonna be anything good. 506 00:36:54,378 --> 00:36:57,506 This entity has now put Cahni in a position where she can 507 00:36:57,632 --> 00:37:00,509 no longer ignore it, and she has to take action now. 508 00:37:05,431 --> 00:37:09,018 People had asked me, why don't you just move? 509 00:37:09,143 --> 00:37:11,604 Why are you staying in this building? 510 00:37:11,687 --> 00:37:14,482 And for some reason, I felt like I didn't want to go 511 00:37:14,565 --> 00:37:18,444 and move out of the building and have some sort of regret 512 00:37:18,527 --> 00:37:20,029 that this thing won. 513 00:37:31,374 --> 00:37:33,626 I reached out to a really good medium. 514 00:37:40,049 --> 00:37:42,093 Out of the blue, the medium said, 515 00:37:42,218 --> 00:37:43,636 "He's really angry, huh?" 516 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,179 And I just looked at her and I said, "Yeah, 517 00:37:45,263 --> 00:37:46,389 and I don't know what to do." 518 00:37:53,729 --> 00:37:54,730 I know you're here. 519 00:38:09,787 --> 00:38:12,665 I feel that the spirit turned its sights on Cahni 520 00:38:12,748 --> 00:38:14,250 because of the fear. 521 00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:16,502 Cahni was probably one of the first people that 522 00:38:16,585 --> 00:38:18,671 encountered the spirit head-on. 523 00:38:18,754 --> 00:38:22,425 It knew that Cahni was vulnerable and took advantage 524 00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:26,262 of the situation that Cahni was in the building by herself, 525 00:38:26,387 --> 00:38:28,097 and that she was someone that feared him. 526 00:38:28,222 --> 00:38:30,725 He continued to terrorize her because he felt that 527 00:38:30,808 --> 00:38:32,518 he could control her and the situation. 528 00:38:34,395 --> 00:38:37,565 The medium told this man, "You're being stupid. 529 00:38:37,648 --> 00:38:40,735 "You're choosing to trap yourself in this building. 530 00:38:40,818 --> 00:38:43,321 "You're stuck in this human way of thinking when you're not 531 00:38:43,446 --> 00:38:45,573 "even a human. You don't have to be here. 532 00:38:45,656 --> 00:38:47,158 You don't have to do this." 533 00:38:47,283 --> 00:38:48,284 And they said, "You're free." 534 00:39:02,715 --> 00:39:03,716 And he left. 535 00:39:20,566 --> 00:39:24,487 She said, "I think this has to do with your landlord." 536 00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:31,160 This angry spirit was actually after my landlord. 537 00:39:32,411 --> 00:39:33,662 The spirit was standing in front of 538 00:39:33,746 --> 00:39:35,122 the landlord's office. 539 00:39:36,999 --> 00:39:40,961 Cahni's landlord is a forensic psychologist, and they testify 540 00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:43,506 if defendants are capable of standing trial, 541 00:39:43,631 --> 00:39:45,299 which could piss off a lot of people. 542 00:39:46,967 --> 00:39:49,470 In this case, he more than likely 543 00:39:49,553 --> 00:39:52,181 sent this person to prison. 544 00:39:52,306 --> 00:39:56,227 It's plausible for a spirit to be seeking revenge on someone 545 00:39:56,352 --> 00:39:58,437 that would have sent them to prison, someone that would have 546 00:39:58,521 --> 00:40:00,231 altered the course of their life. 547 00:40:00,356 --> 00:40:03,192 I could absolutely see why they would want to get revenge. 548 00:40:05,069 --> 00:40:08,989 My landlord was very clinical, very black-and-white. 549 00:40:09,073 --> 00:40:11,867 I don't see him as being the type of person that would 550 00:40:11,992 --> 00:40:13,953 believe in these types of things. 551 00:40:14,036 --> 00:40:16,747 I felt like I was the one that was being targeted. 552 00:40:16,872 --> 00:40:21,127 I was aware of him, and he was aware of the fact that I was 553 00:40:21,210 --> 00:40:24,713 aware of him, I felt that I needed to deal with it 554 00:40:24,797 --> 00:40:26,298 in some way, shape, or form. 555 00:40:26,382 --> 00:40:28,926 I was really proud of the fact that Cahni stood up for 556 00:40:29,051 --> 00:40:32,012 herself because oftentimes you get people who are living 557 00:40:32,096 --> 00:40:35,808 in situations and they just say, 558 00:40:35,891 --> 00:40:38,144 "OK, you can be the boss here." 559 00:40:38,227 --> 00:40:40,187 But Cahni stood up to the spirit and said, 560 00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:42,731 "I don't want to leave here." Um, you know, 561 00:40:42,815 --> 00:40:45,401 and ultimately the spirit could go on. 562 00:40:45,526 --> 00:40:48,737 And so it's just really important that we remember that 563 00:40:48,821 --> 00:40:52,241 as people, that we can stand up to spirits and ultimately have 564 00:40:52,324 --> 00:40:55,244 a humanity for the spiritual realm, for these spirits that 565 00:40:55,369 --> 00:40:58,497 are here, because they are also going through a journey. 566 00:41:04,753 --> 00:41:06,130 After the visit with the medium, 567 00:41:06,255 --> 00:41:08,799 the building felt completely different. 568 00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:14,388 It felt a lot lighter. It felt more welcoming. 569 00:41:14,472 --> 00:41:16,932 But I never mentioned any of this to my landlord. 570 00:41:21,103 --> 00:41:24,773 I definitely feel compassion for this spirit because of what 571 00:41:24,899 --> 00:41:26,442 he was caught up in. 572 00:41:27,985 --> 00:41:30,029 I have no clue how much time 573 00:41:30,112 --> 00:41:32,781 he spent trapping himself in this building. 574 00:41:34,909 --> 00:41:37,411 This angry spirit, he was once a human, 575 00:41:37,495 --> 00:41:39,038 and he was so caught up 576 00:41:39,121 --> 00:41:41,207 in everything that he had gone through, 577 00:41:42,249 --> 00:41:45,294 it came with him even after his passing. 578 00:41:47,421 --> 00:41:49,340 This whole experience made me 579 00:41:49,465 --> 00:41:51,926 even more compassionate to people. 580 00:41:52,009 --> 00:41:57,806 And so I think that it made me a more effective hypnotherapist 581 00:41:57,890 --> 00:41:59,600 and more understanding. 582 00:41:59,683 --> 00:42:02,811 So I really try to see all of the good things that came out 583 00:42:02,895 --> 00:42:03,896 of this situation. 45926

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