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I noticed that it was really,
really dark on the inside.
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The darkness in the hallways
would swallow up the light.
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When investigating
a paranormal case,
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it's just like
investigating a crime.
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You want to know whodunit,
and you want to know why.
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In the back of both of
our minds, we knew that
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there was something in
that apartment.
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Something followed me.
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Something you definitely don't
want to be followed by.
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Anger is a powerful
binding emotion,
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especially when it comes
to spirit.
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It does have that feel that
we are disturbing
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somebody's resting place.
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I was alone,
and I was terrified.
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She can no longer ignore it,
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and she has to take
action now.
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- Who's there?
- Could she be responsible?
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It triggered a truly dark
memory that I tried to bury.
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I could absolutely see why
they would want to get revenge.
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I was more scared
than I'd been
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this entire time
because that's my baby.
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When I was telling my family
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that we were going to be living
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in Las Vegas,
they were shocked.
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They didn't think that's
an actual place to live in.
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They were thinking, oh,
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are you gonna live
in a hotel?
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My fiance and I settled on
a new suburb
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on the south end
of the city.
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The rent here was cheaper,
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a perfect place
for a young couple
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starting their lives together.
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What I didn't know
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is that something
followed me... here.
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Something you definitely
don't want to be followed by.
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So Leilani and I met almost 15,
16 years ago, and we were just
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friends all the way up until
about five years ago.
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Johnathan is a character.
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He is not the nicest when
you first meet him, but that is
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just his way of breaking down
the type of person that
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he keeps close to him.
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But when you are in that
close-knit group of people,
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he cares for you deeply.
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He will do anything
for you.
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And if you ask him something,
even if it's out of the way,
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he will drop everything
for you.
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It was December, and since this
was my daughter's
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first Christmas, I wanted to
deck the halls of the apartment.
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I had wrapped every single door
with wrapping paper...
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top to bottom.
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I went crazy, a little too
crazy if you ask Johnathan.
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I woke up to
an intense sound of rain.
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It was as if
you were standing
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right under
a tin roof
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while it was raining
on top of you.
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- What is that?
- Is it raining?
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It's not raining.
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And then I came to realize
that it sounded like
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somebody was dragging
their hand down
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our wrapping-paper door.
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There's only three of us in
our apartment, so there
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shouldn't be anybody
else there.
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The first thing I did was
check my daughter's room
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because I thought that maybe
there was an intruder
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in the house.
And nobody was in there.
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I checked a couple other rooms,
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realized that nobody was
in there either.
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There was nothing to do,
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nothing that we could do
about it.
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We decided to just
let it be.
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Richard, take one.
Mark.
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When strange things start
going on in your home,
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your place of business, 99% of
the time, we just want to
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dismiss this stuff--
99% of the time, we're right.
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That creaking floorboard often
is just a creaking floorboard.
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Not everything is a ghost.
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In fact, the vast majority of
things are not a ghost.
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But then you get down to those
instances where there's
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something stranger going on.
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And in John and Leilani's case,
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they're about to run headlong
into one.
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Leilani had a job at
the apartments that we live at.
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After a tenant moves out,
my manager and I had to do
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a routine move out check for
any vacant apartments,
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just to make sure
there wasn't anything
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left there,
there was no damages
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that we had to
write down and get fixed.
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There was a weird smell,
like something was rotting.
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I have this weird,
overwhelming feeling that...
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there's something
in the bathroom.
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Seeing what I saw in front of
me and the feeling that I got
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from it froze me.
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But there was nothing there.
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Are you okay?
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Yeah.
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I felt chills over
my entire body.
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I was scared.
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- Let's get out of here.
- Yeah.
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I saw something run
into the bathroom.
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My manager, he was like,
"I saw the same thing."
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The brief moment that I had
looking at this figure running
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across the room,
the movement of it was
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very... odd.
It kind of jerked as it ran,
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but it looked like it glided
as well.
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So the movement
was not of something
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that a human could make.
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There's nothing in there.
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When this case begins,
we're hearing the sound
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of rain--
we're just hearing things.
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We imagined it.
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But then we start seeing other
phenomena, and these other
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phenomena involve
different senses.
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They start smelling things,
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and then they start
seeing things.
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Now, any of our senses
can be fooled.
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When you start to see
multiple senses,
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at the same time, less likely
that they're all being fooled.
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- Let's just get out of here.
- OK, I'll follow you.
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As we left the unit,
we were...
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in a daze.
It-- it didn't feel real.
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Just both experiencing
the exact same thing
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and the entire feeling
of the apartment,
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the rotting smell, it felt...
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very creepy.
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When investigating
a paranormal case,
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it's just like
investigating a crime.
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You want to know whodunit,
and you want to know why.
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The best starting point is
usually the location itself,
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the place in which
the incident occurred.
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Not just the building itself,
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but also the ground that
it stands on.
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Las Vegas is known as Sin City,
and it was built by the mob.
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And it's a city with a lot of
blood on its hands and a lot of
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blood in its history.
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There are bodies in unmarked
graves all over the place,
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especially in the earlier days
of Las Vegas.
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Where John and Leilani live now
is the outskirts of town.
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It's a ordinary-looking
subdivision.
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Back in the early days of Vegas
history, though, this would
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have been desert, the kind of
desert that's a great place to
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go dispose of a body in
the middle of the night.
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Is it possible that
the spirit
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of somebody who was dumped in
one of those unmarked graves
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is restlessly wandering around
and causing all
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of the activity?
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In the vacant apartment,
for the longest time,
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we couldn't get...
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any power or any electricity
in there.
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It would say that it was on in
the energy system and on
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the computer, but every time
we had the guys go there,
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the power wouldn't work.
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My manager and I chalked that
incident up to, there might be
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a faulty connection.
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But in the back of both of
our minds, we knew that...
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there was something in
that apartment.
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Paranormal investigators have
long noticed that there is
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a link between electrical
problems at a location
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and paranormal activity.
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It's very common for us to go
into a location and find that
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our freshly charged brand-new
batteries are suddenly dead
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after 20 minutes.
Where is that energy going?
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And the most common hypothesis
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is that it's going
to the spirits.
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It is allowing them to
fuel their manifestations.
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It was just one thing after
another, every single day.
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We decided to share
our experiences in our podcast.
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This is our podcast studio,
and we record every week after
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10 PM, after the baby
falls asleep.
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Our podcast is called
"Got Creeps?"
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And we just chat about
anything true crime,
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anything paranormal,
and anything that has to do
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with anything creepy.
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- You hear that?
- What?
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And I started hearing static.
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Johnathan. Johnathan.
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I don't know, it's--
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It's loud.
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Can you not hear it?
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Johnathan.
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Ugh... wha--
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I'm coming for you.
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I'm coming for you.
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It was not only static,
but it sounded like there was
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a voice in there.
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- Do you not hear it?
- No.
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I checked on my laptop how
the sound was picking up,
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and the static wasn't picking
up on my soundboard.
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The voice that I was hearing
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wasn't getting picked
up either.
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The only thing that was getting
picked up was me talking.
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When she told me,
I automatically believed her.
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I didn't try to diffuse it
in any way.
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I was like, "OK, so what do
we do about this?"
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They're not
dyed-in-the-wool skeptics.
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They obviously have some degree
of belief in the paranormal.
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The fact is that
when you open your mind
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toward the paranormal,
when you acknowledge
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its existence or even
its potential, sometimes it
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shows an interest back in you.
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Statistically, the likelihood
that we're dealing with
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a haunting because John
and Leilani happened to move
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into a house that happened to
be in the vicinity of
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one of these unmarked graves, at
first glance, it seems to fit.
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But here's the problem.
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The paranormal activities seem
pretty generic at first,
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but as time has gone on,
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it's gotten to be a little
too close to home.
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What we're dealing with is
a pattern of events
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that isn't random.
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It seems to have taken on
the characteristics
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of a stalker.
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Johnathan. Johnathan.
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Johnathan...
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So the next morning, Leilani is
at work, and I get to work
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editing the episode that we had
just recorded, when I start
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hearing the static
and distortion as well.
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Johnathan...
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The biggest thing unusual about
it is that I didn't see it
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while we were recording.
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But underneath all the static,
it did sound like a voice.
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John, John, Johnathan...
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Johnathan...
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I'm coming for you.
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As this was happening,
I started feeling this presence
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behind me, this weird,
heavy feeling that somebody
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pushing up against me.
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I was pretty scared because it
was just me and the baby home.
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When I turned around,
nobody was there.
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My daughter starts screaming
and crying, so I get up
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and I check.
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And the swing starts moving
and jittery like crazy.
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I'm trying to, you know,
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press the buttons to
turn it off,
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but nothing was working.
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That's when I was more scared
than I'd been
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this entire time,
because that's my baby.
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I couldn't get it to stop,
so the only thing
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that I thought to do was unplug
the entire thing.
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And even after I unplugged it,
the display stayed on,
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and I couldn't explain that.
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What's needed now is a motive
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to explain the reason behind
this haunting.
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And just a few days later,
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that motive is made all
too clear.
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A few days later,
Leilani and the baby
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had gone out shopping.
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Lani, is that you?
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Hello?
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I went down the hallway.
I checked every room.
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I checked the bathroom.
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And I especially wanted to
check the baby's room.
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And I even went as far as to
check my room as well.
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But nobody was there.
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I couldn't explain it,
but somehow somebody had walked
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down this hallway and vanished
into thin air.
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Who or what is the entity in
John and Leilani's apartment?
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The one key piece comes
into play.
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It's what the spirit
was wearing.
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Now, I thought it was Leilani
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because she did have long
black hair.
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But the woman that I saw
was wearing a black dress.
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Lani, is that you?
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This is when everything started
to click in my mind that these
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instances were not
just one-offs.
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These instances were all
connected in some sort of way.
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I started feeling like this
could be connected to something
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00:18:21,975 --> 00:18:23,185
that had happened to me
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years ago when I was still
in high school.
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I'm coming for you.
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A truly dark memory
that I tried to bury.
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My friends and I had just
graduated high school.
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We wanted to just have one last
hurrah and just go
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00:18:51,380 --> 00:18:53,423
and do something crazy.
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00:18:53,549 --> 00:18:58,804
And in my hometown, there was
this abandoned farmhouse that
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had been there for years.
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Everybody who grew up in this
town knew that this house was
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this creepy, old,
haunted, abandoned house.
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Don't be scared.
It's gonna be fun.
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OK, fine.
I'm not scared.
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Let's go in here.
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We started having this
uneasy feeling.
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And we heard creaks
that sounded
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00:19:27,958 --> 00:19:30,752
like people were walking
on old wooden floorboards.
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00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:35,257
- Wait,
do you guys hear that?
- Quiet.
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00:19:35,382 --> 00:19:36,758
Hear what?
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00:19:36,842 --> 00:19:39,803
We were all together,
so we knew that it wasn't one
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00:19:39,928 --> 00:19:41,054
of us making the noise.
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00:19:47,853 --> 00:19:49,354
- What was that?
- What is that?
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00:19:49,438 --> 00:19:52,107
- Where?
- She went
over there.
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00:19:52,232 --> 00:19:53,317
Where?
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00:19:56,612 --> 00:19:57,613
Oh, my God.
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I see this
weird figure.
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Johnathan.
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We decided to
instigate and say,
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"I'm not scared of you."
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John.
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00:20:17,841 --> 00:20:19,801
- Run! Run! Run!
- Let's get out
of here.
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We all
freaked out and ran.
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00:20:22,471 --> 00:20:24,973
I'm coming for you.
300
00:20:26,558 --> 00:20:28,518
It's never a good idea to
disrespect spirits.
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00:20:28,644 --> 00:20:32,147
The provocation that Johnathan
did of the female spirit,
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00:20:32,272 --> 00:20:33,982
this has now come back to
bite him.
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00:20:34,107 --> 00:20:38,779
There is a possibility that
the reason he's being followed
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00:20:38,862 --> 00:20:42,407
is because he provoked that
entity a long time ago
305
00:20:42,491 --> 00:20:44,076
with his friends.
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00:20:44,159 --> 00:20:47,037
And he was kind of the one
gathering everybody around
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00:20:47,162 --> 00:20:49,081
and leading everyone.
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00:20:49,164 --> 00:20:53,001
The entity may be following him
because he seems like...
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00:20:54,336 --> 00:20:56,505
he was in charge.
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00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:59,716
Spirits don't necessarily work
on the same timeframe as we do
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00:20:59,841 --> 00:21:01,218
in our material world.
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00:21:01,343 --> 00:21:04,596
So it may be that she has been
biding her time, and now that
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00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,350
the time suits her, she is back
and she's ready for revenge.
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It has been three months since
we first experienced the figure
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00:21:14,731 --> 00:21:16,233
in the apartment.
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00:21:16,358 --> 00:21:19,611
And to this day, it is still
not rented.
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00:21:19,695 --> 00:21:21,863
We have tried renting it
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00:21:21,989 --> 00:21:24,700
and it doesn't seem to stick
with anybody.
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00:21:28,078 --> 00:21:31,873
People may, once hearing
the story, tell us to just
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00:21:31,999 --> 00:21:36,378
move, but I don't think
it's the place.
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00:21:37,629 --> 00:21:39,548
I'm doing what I can to
the best of my abilities
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00:21:39,631 --> 00:21:43,010
and what I know how to do.
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00:21:43,093 --> 00:21:44,886
We have crystals,
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00:21:45,012 --> 00:21:48,807
and we sage the house regularly
for protection.
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00:21:48,890 --> 00:21:51,226
The three of us, my daughter,
Johnathan, and I, we all sleep
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00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:55,105
in our room, and we haven't
moved her to her room yet.
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00:21:57,357 --> 00:22:01,528
If this woman in black were to
physically harm my daughter in
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any way, that's when I would
need to intervene and find
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00:22:07,492 --> 00:22:09,953
somebody to help me make
this stop.
330
00:22:10,078 --> 00:22:12,622
But the good thing is it hasn't
gotten to that point yet.
331
00:22:13,749 --> 00:22:16,168
I just would like
whatever this is
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00:22:16,251 --> 00:22:18,420
to just finally
leave us alone.
333
00:22:20,672 --> 00:22:21,923
I don't know what will
solve it,
334
00:22:23,091 --> 00:22:26,261
but I just know that wherever
we go, she will follow us.
335
00:23:01,963 --> 00:23:04,925
I moved to
Brandon in 2015.
336
00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:07,469
Brandon is just outside
of Tampa.
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00:23:08,595 --> 00:23:10,555
I was burned out from
the rat race.
338
00:23:10,639 --> 00:23:13,433
So I came here looking for
a new start.
339
00:23:13,558 --> 00:23:15,769
I fell in love with the area
right away.
340
00:23:15,852 --> 00:23:19,773
I'm a clinical transpersonal
hypnotherapist, and this is
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00:23:19,856 --> 00:23:21,817
the building
where I rented my office.
342
00:23:22,818 --> 00:23:26,363
It was quiet, it was
affordable, it was perfect.
343
00:23:27,781 --> 00:23:28,782
But I was dead wrong.
344
00:23:39,626 --> 00:23:41,586
Erin Goodpipe, Cahni Konig.
Take one.
345
00:23:43,547 --> 00:23:46,341
Cahni Konig's case is
really interesting to me
346
00:23:46,466 --> 00:23:48,135
because she's a hypnotherapist.
347
00:23:48,260 --> 00:23:52,180
And you're delving into realms
where there is a thin veil
348
00:23:52,305 --> 00:23:54,933
or a doorway that's opened into
the spiritual realm.
349
00:23:55,016 --> 00:23:58,145
So I'm really fascinated by
what happens here.
350
00:24:00,647 --> 00:24:02,941
I just felt that this
was the right place
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00:24:03,024 --> 00:24:04,359
for my practice.
352
00:24:04,484 --> 00:24:05,652
There were massage therapists,
353
00:24:05,777 --> 00:24:08,572
family therapists,
and counselors.
354
00:24:08,655 --> 00:24:11,992
So I felt like I fit in
with the building.
355
00:24:16,413 --> 00:24:19,416
When doing an investigation,
the first thing that I look at
356
00:24:19,499 --> 00:24:21,334
is the location
of the haunting.
357
00:24:23,253 --> 00:24:28,300
Florida, with so much haunted
history, so many stories,
358
00:24:28,383 --> 00:24:29,634
you know, of trauma.
359
00:24:31,887 --> 00:24:34,514
We have everything from Civil
Wars, we have plantations,
360
00:24:34,598 --> 00:24:36,057
we have prisons.
361
00:24:36,183 --> 00:24:37,976
So this really creates a hotbed
362
00:24:38,059 --> 00:24:40,729
for paranormal activity
to happen.
363
00:24:43,607 --> 00:24:47,319
There could be angry spirits
that want to be seen, that want
364
00:24:47,402 --> 00:24:49,529
to be heard, that want
their stories to be told.
365
00:24:53,575 --> 00:24:57,454
Although this is
a building with other tenants,
366
00:24:57,537 --> 00:24:59,873
they just didn't seem to be
here very often.
367
00:25:01,541 --> 00:25:03,960
I was the only one here
a lot of the time.
368
00:25:08,215 --> 00:25:10,550
When I first came
into the building, I noticed
369
00:25:10,634 --> 00:25:13,386
that it was really, really dark
on the inside.
370
00:25:13,470 --> 00:25:15,680
Like the air was thicker,
371
00:25:15,764 --> 00:25:17,891
even when there's lights
in here.
372
00:25:20,268 --> 00:25:21,895
And even when
they've changed the bulbs,
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00:25:21,978 --> 00:25:23,313
it didn't really
seem to matter.
374
00:25:23,396 --> 00:25:25,398
It's kind of like the darkness
375
00:25:25,482 --> 00:25:27,734
in the hallways
would swallow up the light.
376
00:25:35,075 --> 00:25:39,204
I couldn't shake the feeling of
heaviness and dread,
377
00:25:39,287 --> 00:25:42,040
and it just seemed to be
getting worse.
378
00:25:42,123 --> 00:25:45,877
I did ask the landlord about
the building, and he said that
379
00:25:45,961 --> 00:25:48,088
it had been a house when
he purchased it
380
00:25:48,171 --> 00:25:49,631
and he renovated it.
381
00:25:53,093 --> 00:25:56,680
Cahni's building was actually
built in the 1950s.
382
00:25:56,763 --> 00:25:59,891
However, in the '90s, it was
converted for commercial use.
383
00:26:01,226 --> 00:26:04,604
You know, what people don't
realize is that land
384
00:26:04,688 --> 00:26:06,982
and property has so
much history.
385
00:26:07,107 --> 00:26:09,776
So maybe there's something from
the past trying to
386
00:26:09,901 --> 00:26:10,902
get her attention.
387
00:26:14,072 --> 00:26:16,616
I was trying to ignore
the darkness that I was feeling
388
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:19,619
in the building,
but that didn't quite work out.
389
00:26:24,749 --> 00:26:25,750
Hello?
390
00:26:46,896 --> 00:26:48,481
I started hearing
strange sounds.
391
00:26:56,197 --> 00:26:59,909
It was kind of like it was
scratching on the inside
392
00:26:59,993 --> 00:27:00,994
of the wall.
393
00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:17,260
I was scared out of my mind.
394
00:27:35,362 --> 00:27:36,613
I would get phone calls
395
00:27:37,614 --> 00:27:38,615
on my business line.
396
00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:42,160
Hello?
397
00:27:47,707 --> 00:27:49,709
They would just not
say anything.
398
00:27:53,838 --> 00:27:55,924
And I would just feel like
I was being watched.
399
00:28:01,638 --> 00:28:03,014
I felt like I wasn't safe.
400
00:28:11,606 --> 00:28:14,150
When working
on a case like Cahni's,
401
00:28:14,234 --> 00:28:16,444
I find it to be
extremely urgent.
402
00:28:16,569 --> 00:28:19,114
She's working
in this building alone,
403
00:28:19,239 --> 00:28:21,032
so Cahni has to consider
it can be
404
00:28:21,116 --> 00:28:22,575
a very dangerous situation.
405
00:28:26,287 --> 00:28:29,165
The clues so far,
the feeling of being heavy
406
00:28:29,249 --> 00:28:32,419
or heaviness, the feeling of
being watched, of a threat,
407
00:28:32,502 --> 00:28:35,797
or feeling a sense of fear,
you know, they all could point
408
00:28:35,922 --> 00:28:39,092
to a paranormal phenomena
that's happening.
409
00:28:39,175 --> 00:28:43,012
But first, we also have to rule
out that it could be human.
410
00:28:43,096 --> 00:28:46,266
We could have a stalker or
an intruder on our hands here.
411
00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:02,407
There are buildings on
either side of this one.
412
00:29:02,532 --> 00:29:05,285
And I know that one of
the buildings has had issues
413
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:08,163
with homeless people breaking
in and stealing things.
414
00:29:10,582 --> 00:29:13,960
This right here is the back
entrance to the building.
415
00:29:14,085 --> 00:29:18,089
And, oftentimes, I had wondered
if somebody was sneaking in
416
00:29:18,214 --> 00:29:19,215
and out of the building.
417
00:29:25,722 --> 00:29:28,099
So over here
is Dark Park.
418
00:29:31,603 --> 00:29:34,606
At night, it's extremely dark
over there.
419
00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:39,152
And there's plenty of places
for people to hide.
420
00:29:41,780 --> 00:29:45,784
So somebody could be sneaking
over in the darkness, unseen.
421
00:29:47,619 --> 00:29:52,457
And as a woman, I kind of
wondered if maybe somebody was
422
00:29:52,540 --> 00:29:56,002
after me, maybe somebody was
stalking me, maybe I angered
423
00:29:56,127 --> 00:29:57,962
a client or something along
those lines.
424
00:30:05,512 --> 00:30:10,266
I was wondering, why was it
so intense?
425
00:30:10,350 --> 00:30:13,478
Why was I feeling scared?
426
00:30:13,561 --> 00:30:16,689
Why was I feeling like
I was being targeted?
427
00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:19,692
Thursday, the Fourth of July,
428
00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:21,945
I'm not sure if
you're taking the day off...
429
00:30:22,028 --> 00:30:24,614
Cahni? Cahni?
430
00:30:24,697 --> 00:30:26,491
- Are you there?
- I was the only one
in the office.
431
00:30:31,955 --> 00:30:33,414
I saw a shadow.
432
00:30:38,795 --> 00:30:42,340
I felt like this shadow was
watching me.
433
00:30:47,554 --> 00:30:49,430
I thought, what if
it's trying to get in?
434
00:30:57,188 --> 00:30:58,690
I was absolutely terrified.
435
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,913
And right here is
the window to my office.
436
00:31:14,038 --> 00:31:16,249
And this is where I saw that
shadow figure.
437
00:31:16,374 --> 00:31:23,172
And it was walking back
and forth and back and forth.
438
00:31:23,256 --> 00:31:24,883
It was really, really scary
439
00:31:24,966 --> 00:31:26,259
because I had no clue
what it was.
440
00:31:30,638 --> 00:31:33,391
It was very dense.
It was very dark.
441
00:31:33,474 --> 00:31:35,727
I didn't see
a lot of details with it.
442
00:31:35,810 --> 00:31:39,397
But it definitely appeared
to be a human-type shape.
443
00:31:45,904 --> 00:31:48,031
Then it went off to the right,
and it disappeared.
444
00:31:55,788 --> 00:31:58,041
The next night,
I was working late.
445
00:31:58,124 --> 00:32:02,128
I had just come from
the kitchen, and I was putting
446
00:32:02,253 --> 00:32:03,671
my key in the door.
447
00:32:03,755 --> 00:32:07,425
And I happened to glance over
at my landlord's office.
448
00:32:18,227 --> 00:32:19,270
Sir?
449
00:32:49,467 --> 00:32:51,135
I had no idea where it went.
450
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:55,390
All I knew is that I was scared
out of my mind.
451
00:32:58,851 --> 00:33:01,145
I knew it was not a figment of
my imagination.
452
00:33:08,987 --> 00:33:11,990
There is a really special
particular moment
453
00:33:12,073 --> 00:33:15,994
in Cahni's case where this
spirit is being watched
454
00:33:16,077 --> 00:33:19,455
by Cahni, and he realizes
that he's being watched,
455
00:33:19,539 --> 00:33:21,833
that Cahni can see him.
456
00:33:21,916 --> 00:33:25,503
And so now there's a connection
that's potentially made here.
457
00:33:25,628 --> 00:33:27,880
Paranormal activity
is absolutely
458
00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:29,632
what's going on
right now.
459
00:33:29,716 --> 00:33:32,677
Could the man in the window,
but also the man that she saw
460
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,679
in the hallway,
be the same person?
461
00:33:34,762 --> 00:33:36,014
And if it is, who is it?
462
00:33:41,394 --> 00:33:44,022
And then tomorrow
we can do the same thing.
463
00:33:44,105 --> 00:33:45,106
That works for me.
Perfect.
464
00:33:45,189 --> 00:33:46,524
OK, great,
Cahni, thank you.
465
00:33:46,607 --> 00:33:47,608
Perfect.
466
00:33:52,947 --> 00:33:54,490
- I have to go.
- Bye.
467
00:34:09,547 --> 00:34:10,631
I started hearing this...
468
00:34:11,674 --> 00:34:13,634
disembodied wailing sound.
469
00:34:17,972 --> 00:34:19,182
Stop!
470
00:34:23,311 --> 00:34:24,353
Stop!
471
00:34:24,437 --> 00:34:28,691
It was a pained,
suffering, suffering sound.
472
00:34:28,775 --> 00:34:30,026
It was bone-chilling.
473
00:34:30,109 --> 00:34:32,278
It has a very, very
distinct sound.
474
00:34:35,782 --> 00:34:36,866
Who's there?
475
00:34:38,451 --> 00:34:40,703
Who's in the building?
476
00:34:42,413 --> 00:34:46,459
I thought, what is that?
Why is this happening?
477
00:34:47,794 --> 00:34:49,962
- Are you there?
- Cahni!
478
00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:56,219
Cahni!
479
00:34:59,097 --> 00:35:01,724
Cahni!
480
00:35:01,808 --> 00:35:03,017
And then...
481
00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:06,646
I heard it wailing my name.
It shook me.
482
00:35:06,771 --> 00:35:08,606
It just shook me to the core.
483
00:35:08,689 --> 00:35:10,775
- Cahni!
- Stop it!
484
00:35:19,075 --> 00:35:20,827
- Cahni!
- Stop it!
485
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:24,956
This was the most disturbing
thing I have ever heard.
486
00:35:25,081 --> 00:35:27,458
- Cahni!
- Stop it!
487
00:35:27,583 --> 00:35:30,336
It was just,
you know, unbelievably loud.
488
00:35:30,419 --> 00:35:32,421
Stop it!
489
00:35:34,590 --> 00:35:36,592
Cahni!
490
00:35:38,636 --> 00:35:40,930
Cahni!
491
00:35:42,765 --> 00:35:45,643
Now, we really have to pay
attention here to the way that
492
00:35:45,768 --> 00:35:50,189
this spirit is calling Cahni's
name and how Cahni is feeling
493
00:35:50,273 --> 00:35:52,358
after hearing this spirit
call her name.
494
00:35:52,441 --> 00:35:56,946
It appears like this spirit is
targeting Cahni specifically,
495
00:35:57,029 --> 00:35:59,866
and I want to know why.
What is the motive behind this?
496
00:36:05,037 --> 00:36:06,914
It was a Friday.
497
00:36:06,998 --> 00:36:10,877
It was late in the evening,
and there was a heaviness.
498
00:36:22,430 --> 00:36:23,431
I saw him again.
499
00:36:25,516 --> 00:36:26,893
It was just very menacing.
500
00:36:28,144 --> 00:36:31,772
Get out!
I will kill you.
501
00:36:39,113 --> 00:36:40,656
I truly felt like
I was in danger.
502
00:36:43,326 --> 00:36:45,494
I was totally helpless.
I was vulnerable.
503
00:36:45,578 --> 00:36:47,705
I didn't know what
the limit was.
504
00:36:47,830 --> 00:36:51,000
I didn't know what this guy
could possibly do to me,
505
00:36:51,125 --> 00:36:52,668
but I knew it wasn't gonna
be anything good.
506
00:36:54,378 --> 00:36:57,506
This entity has now put Cahni
in a position where she can
507
00:36:57,632 --> 00:37:00,509
no longer ignore it,
and she has to take action now.
508
00:37:05,431 --> 00:37:09,018
People had asked me,
why don't you just move?
509
00:37:09,143 --> 00:37:11,604
Why are you staying in
this building?
510
00:37:11,687 --> 00:37:14,482
And for some reason, I felt
like I didn't want to go
511
00:37:14,565 --> 00:37:18,444
and move out of the building
and have some sort of regret
512
00:37:18,527 --> 00:37:20,029
that this thing won.
513
00:37:31,374 --> 00:37:33,626
I reached out to
a really good medium.
514
00:37:40,049 --> 00:37:42,093
Out of the blue,
the medium said,
515
00:37:42,218 --> 00:37:43,636
"He's really angry, huh?"
516
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,179
And I just looked at her
and I said, "Yeah,
517
00:37:45,263 --> 00:37:46,389
and I don't know what to do."
518
00:37:53,729 --> 00:37:54,730
I know you're here.
519
00:38:09,787 --> 00:38:12,665
I feel that the spirit turned
its sights on Cahni
520
00:38:12,748 --> 00:38:14,250
because of the fear.
521
00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:16,502
Cahni was probably one of
the first people that
522
00:38:16,585 --> 00:38:18,671
encountered the spirit head-on.
523
00:38:18,754 --> 00:38:22,425
It knew that Cahni was
vulnerable and took advantage
524
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:26,262
of the situation that Cahni
was in the building by herself,
525
00:38:26,387 --> 00:38:28,097
and that she was someone that
feared him.
526
00:38:28,222 --> 00:38:30,725
He continued to terrorize her
because he felt that
527
00:38:30,808 --> 00:38:32,518
he could control her
and the situation.
528
00:38:34,395 --> 00:38:37,565
The medium told this man,
"You're being stupid.
529
00:38:37,648 --> 00:38:40,735
"You're choosing to trap
yourself in this building.
530
00:38:40,818 --> 00:38:43,321
"You're stuck in this human way
of thinking when you're not
531
00:38:43,446 --> 00:38:45,573
"even a human.
You don't have to be here.
532
00:38:45,656 --> 00:38:47,158
You don't have to do this."
533
00:38:47,283 --> 00:38:48,284
And they said, "You're free."
534
00:39:02,715 --> 00:39:03,716
And he left.
535
00:39:20,566 --> 00:39:24,487
She said, "I think this has
to do with your landlord."
536
00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:31,160
This angry spirit was actually
after my landlord.
537
00:39:32,411 --> 00:39:33,662
The spirit was standing
in front of
538
00:39:33,746 --> 00:39:35,122
the landlord's office.
539
00:39:36,999 --> 00:39:40,961
Cahni's landlord is a forensic
psychologist, and they testify
540
00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:43,506
if defendants are capable of
standing trial,
541
00:39:43,631 --> 00:39:45,299
which could piss off
a lot of people.
542
00:39:46,967 --> 00:39:49,470
In this case,
he more than likely
543
00:39:49,553 --> 00:39:52,181
sent this person
to prison.
544
00:39:52,306 --> 00:39:56,227
It's plausible for a spirit
to be seeking revenge on someone
545
00:39:56,352 --> 00:39:58,437
that would have sent them to
prison, someone that would have
546
00:39:58,521 --> 00:40:00,231
altered the course
of their life.
547
00:40:00,356 --> 00:40:03,192
I could absolutely see why
they would want to get revenge.
548
00:40:05,069 --> 00:40:08,989
My landlord was very clinical,
very black-and-white.
549
00:40:09,073 --> 00:40:11,867
I don't see him as being
the type of person that would
550
00:40:11,992 --> 00:40:13,953
believe in these types
of things.
551
00:40:14,036 --> 00:40:16,747
I felt like I was the one that
was being targeted.
552
00:40:16,872 --> 00:40:21,127
I was aware of him, and he was
aware of the fact that I was
553
00:40:21,210 --> 00:40:24,713
aware of him, I felt
that I needed to deal with it
554
00:40:24,797 --> 00:40:26,298
in some way, shape,
or form.
555
00:40:26,382 --> 00:40:28,926
I was really proud of the fact
that Cahni stood up for
556
00:40:29,051 --> 00:40:32,012
herself because oftentimes
you get people who are living
557
00:40:32,096 --> 00:40:35,808
in situations
and they just say,
558
00:40:35,891 --> 00:40:38,144
"OK, you can be
the boss here."
559
00:40:38,227 --> 00:40:40,187
But Cahni stood up to
the spirit and said,
560
00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:42,731
"I don't want to leave here."
Um, you know,
561
00:40:42,815 --> 00:40:45,401
and ultimately
the spirit could go on.
562
00:40:45,526 --> 00:40:48,737
And so it's just really
important that we remember that
563
00:40:48,821 --> 00:40:52,241
as people, that we can stand up
to spirits and ultimately have
564
00:40:52,324 --> 00:40:55,244
a humanity for the spiritual
realm, for these spirits that
565
00:40:55,369 --> 00:40:58,497
are here, because they are also
going through a journey.
566
00:41:04,753 --> 00:41:06,130
After the visit with
the medium,
567
00:41:06,255 --> 00:41:08,799
the building felt
completely different.
568
00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:14,388
It felt a lot lighter.
It felt more welcoming.
569
00:41:14,472 --> 00:41:16,932
But I never mentioned any of
this to my landlord.
570
00:41:21,103 --> 00:41:24,773
I definitely feel compassion
for this spirit because of what
571
00:41:24,899 --> 00:41:26,442
he was caught up in.
572
00:41:27,985 --> 00:41:30,029
I have no clue how much time
573
00:41:30,112 --> 00:41:32,781
he spent trapping himself in
this building.
574
00:41:34,909 --> 00:41:37,411
This angry spirit,
he was once a human,
575
00:41:37,495 --> 00:41:39,038
and he was so caught up
576
00:41:39,121 --> 00:41:41,207
in everything that
he had gone through,
577
00:41:42,249 --> 00:41:45,294
it came with him even
after his passing.
578
00:41:47,421 --> 00:41:49,340
This whole experience made me
579
00:41:49,465 --> 00:41:51,926
even more compassionate
to people.
580
00:41:52,009 --> 00:41:57,806
And so I think that it made me
a more effective hypnotherapist
581
00:41:57,890 --> 00:41:59,600
and more understanding.
582
00:41:59,683 --> 00:42:02,811
So I really try to see all of
the good things that came out
583
00:42:02,895 --> 00:42:03,896
of this situation.
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