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My husband and I
bought an old house
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and turned it into a B&B.
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It was a dream come true.
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Looking at the price
of the cottage,
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it was strangely affordable.
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It was probably a red flag.
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Behind the stone was
a very ominous...
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figure.
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Felt like someone was staring
over my shoulder.
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What am I bringing home
with me?
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The question is,
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who is doing the manipulating?
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We need to look
a little deeper
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for our explanation
as to what's going on.
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What the hell is going on?
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We are in one of the oldest
towns in America,
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there is the potential
for paranormal occurrences.
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She did say that if we wanted
to see her,
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this lady would
manifest herself to us.
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This is the area
where I saw her.
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Things started to ramp up.
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That really scared
the [bleep] out of me.
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Could it be a vengeful spirit
looking to seek out
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that punishment on us?
Absolutely.
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There are items in the world
that might have
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multiple spirits attached to it.
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I'm shivering right now.
I don't know...
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Yeah.
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Mystic was founded in 1654,
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so it's one of the oldest towns
in America.
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I immediately loved
old Mystic especially.
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The setting, the 18th-century
kind of feel,
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the old buildings,
historic homes,
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just the quietness
of the neighborhood.
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The history is incredible.
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In 2008, my husband and I
bought an old house
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and turned it into a B&B.
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It was something
we always wanted to do.
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But the dream turned
into a nightmare.
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What drew me to this house was
just the colonial charm
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of this home.
Built in 1784,
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the house has
all the original workmanship
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that came along with it.
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It was a dream.
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I was interested in history
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before that.
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But when I got here,
things kind of clicked.
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I got involved in different
historical groups,
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I had gotten into reenacting.
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I belonged
to a Revolutionary War group.
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I started doing
some guided tours
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about haunted Mystic.
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There were times that he would
dress up in the colonial gear
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and serve breakfast
to the guests.
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The case of Robert Lecce is
very interesting.
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It begins in the small town
of Mystic, which is steeped
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in deep history.
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The case takes
many different turns,
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turns that I didn't see coming.
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It did come with a reputation
of being haunted.
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Um, I remember at the closing,
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I, uh, I said to the owners,
jokingly, I said,
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"Place is not haunted, is it?"
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It was too late by then.
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I already signed the paperwork
for that,
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so there was no backing out.
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It's an old house.
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There was always bumps,
and you could hear footsteps
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on occasion.
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You would get
a definite feeling
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of a heaviness or a darkness
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that really manifested itself
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at night.
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We were watching TV
up here one evening.
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We suddenly heard
a loud banging.
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What's that?
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What's going on?
What was that banging?
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Rapid banging.
Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
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Michael jumped up and ran
downstairs to check the doors.
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And nobody was there.
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Robert, there's no one there.
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There's nobody
in the parking lot.
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There's nobody
around the building.
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Robert's daughter's bedroom
was right next door.
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And she ended up contacting us
by cell phone
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to, you know, to tell her dad
what was going on.
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You, know, "Where is this noise
coming from?"
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She said,
"OMG, Dad, I heard that too.
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"It's coming from in here
and I'm afraid to come out
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of the bedroom."
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Since there was a balcony
that led right
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into my daughter's bedroom,
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I was really concerned
that there could be
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somebody inside her room.
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There was nobody.
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She was sitting on the bed
and quite scared.
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The fact that this is one
of the oldest towns in America
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really just creates
a breeding ground for lots
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of the supernatural,
for lots of the paranormal.
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But first we have to rule out
anything that could be
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happening in the real world.
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This could be an intruder,
a stalker, someone trying
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to play a prank.
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It is not impossible to think
that somebody was breaking in
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and wanted to scare them
or cause some sort of harm.
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It was-- it was-- frightening.
It was frightening.
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This was like
the beginning of--
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of something.
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Michael would keep diaries
in each room, so guests often
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would write things down
in the diaries.
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A lady woke up in the middle
of the night to what she saw was
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a Revolutionary War soldier
standing by her bed.
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There was another instance
where a woman was sitting
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in the bathroom,
combing her hair.
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And in the reflection,
she saw another woman
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behind her.
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It didn't hurt business,
because there are people
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out there that wanna
experience something like that.
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And then there were others
that came in here and...
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perhaps I wouldn't see again.
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I would definitely say,
there was an element of us
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living in
some sort of fear.
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Then I started seeing things.
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One morning
after breakfast service,
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Michael and I were finishing up
here in the kitchen.
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I was doing dishes.
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Michael, do you see that?
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And he looked up
and he said, "No."
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I said, "There was a woman
standing there watching you.
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She was there and now
she's gone."
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I was just startled by that.
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It frightened me.
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So I'm paying attention now.
People don't just disappear
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out of thin air.
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This is a very compelling piece
of evidence that points
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toward the paranormal.
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And soon we will get more
evidence that clarifies this.
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I was doing a historical tour
in a local cemetery
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to a small group of women.
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One of the ladies was grabbing
her phone in rapid succession.
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And I stopped and I said,
"Is there something wrong?"
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And she goes, "No, my phone
just keeps vibrating,
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but there's nothing there."
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I said, "OK, well,
maybe we all need to start
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taking some photographs."
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I finished the tour, came back
here, and the phone rang.
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It was one of the girls
from the tour and said,
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"We have to come by
and show you this photograph."
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Behind the stone was
a very ominous
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figure.
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The figure had a black hat,
black coat,
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pale-white face.
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Saw this ominous figure
that really
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scared the
out of me.
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That really drove home the fact
that this could be
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a little bit dangerous.
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I'm going
into these cemeteries,
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talking about these spirits,
these people that have passed.
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Are they following me
back here?
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What am I bringing home with me?
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A former employee came
to Michael and I
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and related to us that she was
a bit of clairvoyant.
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We sat around the kitchen
table, and she kind of just
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went off and started telling us
all these different things.
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She was telling me
about her past experiences
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with a woman that she saw
in the home.
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Victorian dress with a tiny
waist, long flowing...
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When she mentioned the lady,
I automatically knew
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who she was talking about.
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She did say
that if we wanted to see her,
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this lady would manifest
herself to us.
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As I approached
the doorway here,
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she stopped me and said,
"Look, look over there, look."
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Look over there,
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and you'll see her.
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Their former housekeeper
reveals to them
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that she has actually seen
this spirit before.
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And this is a very
powerful moment where not only
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can this housekeeper verify
what Robert and Michael
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are experiencing, she actually
validates everything
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that they've been experiencing.
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And now that we can verify
that there are
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paranormal occurrences
that are happening here,
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the real question is,
who is this woman?
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What is her identity?
And what is her motive
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for trying to reach out
or get in touch
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with Robert and Michael?
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This was my son's room.
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He started to spend
a lot of time in here,
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and he didn't wanna come out,
didn't wanna do very much,
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and really started on his path
of kind of a depression.
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My son had a drug addiction
and briefly got out of it
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when he went to go live
with my parents.
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When he relapsed,
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that was the end.
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I always believed that
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his depression and the dark
feelings in that room,
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whatever that energy was,
really did affect my son.
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One night I was watching TV.
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There was nobody else here.
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Look this way.
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Look this way.
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Michael?
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Someone said, "Look this way."
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Michael, is that you?
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Look this way.
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I froze.
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I didn't know what to do.
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She was looking at me
as I didn't belong here.
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Then she just disappeared.
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It kind of grabbed me
by the collar, screaming at me,
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like you would if you were
screaming at someone
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but they couldn't hear you.
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Whatever entity, spirit,
whatever you wanna call it,
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wanted to be left
alone in there.
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There was a feeling of,
"You don't belong here."
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Because of the fact
that there seems to be
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a disapproving nature coming
from these spirits,
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it tells me that there must be
a deep connection to the space.
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I don't think
that it's somebody
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from outside of the house,
like the graveyard,
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or maybe from a battlefield.
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I actually think it might be
more intimately connected
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to the house itself.
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After doing some research,
I found out that the original
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builders and owners
of the house were
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the family of the Dennisons
in 1783.
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And they built it as a very
luxurious family-oriented home.
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And it's quite possible
that these spirits are
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members of the Dennison family
who don't realize
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that they're not the owners
of the house anymore.
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And so from the perspective
of the Dennisons,
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it could appear as though
Michael and Robert are
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actually the intruders.
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I stirred something up in here.
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The experiences started
to ramp up,
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like a door was opened.
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We weren't sure what to do.
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I believe
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there is one dominant spirit
in this house.
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That spirit allows the others
to interact at its will.
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We had some friends
come over one evening.
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They wanted to do
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a little mini investigation.
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They brought a spirit box.
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A spirit box is a tool that
paranormal investigators use
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in trying to communicate
with spirit.
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It's essentially a radio that
emits electromagnetic frequency
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in which spirits can come
in and try and speak through.
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The belief is that spirit is
made out of specific
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energy frequencies, specifically
electromagnetic frequency,
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and so spirits can
kind of use that energy
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and communicate through
the words or the songs
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that are coming
from radio stations.
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It was definitely responding
to questions,
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but didn't make any sense.
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To hear voices, the voices
that are in this home,
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coming through and--
and giving us messages.
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I mean, these people are
in this home, these spirits.
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I mean, it just--
it was frightening to me.
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It almost felt like the floor
was collapsing.
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That was a definitive moment
for me because then I thought,
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what are we doing here?
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I have to live here.
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While I'm talking
about these stories,
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I've noticed that the-- for me,
the temperature of the room
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has dropped.
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I'm, like,
I'm shivering right now,
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I don't know if--
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Yeah.
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Yeah, we're...
we're being watched.
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I feel a little tensed
sitting here right now,
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knowing that they're
probably around me.
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Are you looking forward
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to getting out of the house?
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I think it's almost time.
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I remembered something
that happened
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just before
most of these incidences.
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I was able to purchase
a portrait of King George III.
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I put it up over the fireplace.
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I didn't really think
about what I was actually doing.
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To me, it's no coincidence
that many of these paranormal
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incidents begin to happen
when Robert puts this portrait
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of King George III
on his mantle.
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There's a layered history,
of course, with this area,
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with the Revolutionary War.
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It's said that King George was
a tyrant himself,
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so the spirits could see
that as a real offensive act.
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So, I'm led to believe that
it was the owners of the house,
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that they were patriots,
and they are offended
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by Robert, who,
by putting that portrait up,
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is aligning himself
with their enemies.
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The things that happened
in this house to me,
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to Michael, to my son,
to my daughter,
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are all connected.
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Could it be a vengeful spirit
looking to seek out
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that punishment on us?
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Absolutely.
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We loved this home
as a couple,
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but at the end,
the spirit world got
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their way with us, and they
drove us out of this home.
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We went our separate ways.
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There were a lot
of different reasons.
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The reason I decided
to leave here,
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00:23:00,462 --> 00:23:02,214
there was a lot
of buildup to it.
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Losing my son.
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The relationship, um,
between Michael and I,
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um, being affected
directly or indirectly
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by what was happening here.
I think perhaps that...
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If we had--
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done this someplace else,
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there's a chance we could
still be together.
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Sometimes they do say
that spirits do follow you.
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Um, where I am now, I'm settled
and I have not had any...
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had any spiritual activity
um, in my new location.
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I've just finally
kind of righted myself.
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And this is the beginning.
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Coming back here
and talking about it
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is part of the new beginning
for me.
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Before coming to Jaffrey,
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00:24:26,131 --> 00:24:28,341
I lived in Vicksburg,
Mississippi.
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I was a volunteer firefighter.
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I also worked at a grain mill.
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00:24:37,434 --> 00:24:39,394
I ended up moving up
to New Hampshire
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with one of my girlfriends.
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Relationships don't always
work out, so I had to find
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a place of my own.
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That's when I ended up here.
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It was old, from the 1700s.
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It was just cute, it was small,
and I was like,
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00:25:02,167 --> 00:25:03,376
"Yeah, this is all I need."
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00:25:05,045 --> 00:25:06,838
Looking at the price
of the cottage,
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00:25:06,922 --> 00:25:10,217
it was strangely affordable,
especially for New Hampshire.
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00:25:10,342 --> 00:25:13,887
I could totally afford it,
but looking back at it,
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00:25:13,970 --> 00:25:15,639
that was probably a red flag.
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00:25:20,477 --> 00:25:22,646
Tawney Lewis,
Dave Childers, take one.
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00:25:25,815 --> 00:25:27,734
My personal opinion
when researching
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00:25:27,859 --> 00:25:30,487
the Dave Childers case,
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00:25:30,570 --> 00:25:33,114
I immediately thought,
"Oh, my goodness,
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00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,076
"this can go so many ways,
because it could be rooted
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00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:37,911
in so many different things."
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00:25:37,994 --> 00:25:40,956
But it all started when
he first moved in the house.
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00:25:41,081 --> 00:25:44,334
Richard Estep,
Dave Childers, take one.
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00:25:44,417 --> 00:25:47,754
It looked to me like a classic
type of haunting,
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00:25:47,837 --> 00:25:50,966
with symptoms that I've seen
a thousand times before.
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00:25:51,091 --> 00:25:53,426
It was only when we dig
a little bit more deeply
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00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:56,429
into Dave's story
that we learned there was
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00:25:56,555 --> 00:25:58,557
a tragedy at the heart
of it all.
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00:26:08,858 --> 00:26:10,902
I had very little
from the beginning.
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00:26:12,112 --> 00:26:14,030
But then I started to collect
some antiques.
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00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:19,869
Stuff that some people
might consider weird.
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00:26:22,914 --> 00:26:24,833
I've been interested
in horror movies
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00:26:24,958 --> 00:26:28,044
and supernatural stuff
basically my whole life.
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00:26:28,128 --> 00:26:30,255
And most of my friends,
they're into the same thing
355
00:26:30,338 --> 00:26:31,339
as I am.
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00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:34,301
But for me,
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00:26:34,384 --> 00:26:35,385
it was home.
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00:26:42,309 --> 00:26:45,478
What I didn't know was,
while I was settling in,
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00:26:46,896 --> 00:26:48,982
things were about to get
real unsettled.
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00:27:00,118 --> 00:27:01,369
I was laying in the bed.
361
00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:05,415
Around 2, 3 o'clock
in the morning, I get woken up.
362
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,542
You could tell whenever
a person is staring at you.
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00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:51,503
You just--
the hair really stands up
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00:27:51,586 --> 00:27:53,213
on the back of your neck
and you can just sense 'em.
365
00:28:01,471 --> 00:28:03,640
Then I heard suddenly
some knocking over here
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00:28:03,723 --> 00:28:05,350
in the closet.
367
00:28:05,433 --> 00:28:06,685
Then I opened up the door...
368
00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:10,563
Nothing, nothing in here
at all.
369
00:28:15,902 --> 00:28:18,071
As soon as I shut
the closet door,
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00:28:18,196 --> 00:28:19,572
I'd lay back down, try to go
back to sleep,
371
00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:20,615
and next thing you know...
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00:28:22,492 --> 00:28:23,910
It was almost like something
was playing
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00:28:24,035 --> 00:28:25,078
cat and mouse with me.
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00:28:29,666 --> 00:28:30,917
Finally, I was just worn out.
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00:28:32,752 --> 00:28:34,671
I had to get some rest,
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00:28:34,754 --> 00:28:36,381
but I tell you what,
I did not cut the light.
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00:28:36,464 --> 00:28:38,007
I kept the lights on all night.
378
00:28:45,432 --> 00:28:46,599
You move into a new house,
and it's
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00:28:46,725 --> 00:28:47,851
an unfamiliar environment,
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00:28:47,934 --> 00:28:49,769
and it takes time not only
for you to get
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00:28:49,853 --> 00:28:51,521
used to the house,
but sometimes for it
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00:28:51,604 --> 00:28:53,231
to get used to you.
383
00:28:53,314 --> 00:28:55,567
So Dave can be forgiven
for thinking that he's being
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00:28:55,650 --> 00:28:57,986
watched when there's nobody
else in the house.
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00:28:58,111 --> 00:29:00,238
But many paranormal
investigators and sensitives
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00:29:00,321 --> 00:29:02,949
will tell you that the best
ghost detector is
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00:29:03,074 --> 00:29:05,452
the human body.
- He hears noises.
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00:29:05,535 --> 00:29:07,620
He feels like someone's
watching him.
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00:29:07,746 --> 00:29:10,206
And all the spidey senses are
starting to go off.
390
00:29:31,060 --> 00:29:33,188
I went through
this whole cottage,
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00:29:33,271 --> 00:29:35,482
trying to see exactly
what it is.
392
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,575
Do I have any rodents in here?
393
00:29:45,658 --> 00:29:48,620
"Do I have a chipmunk, squirrel,
or something like that?"
394
00:29:48,745 --> 00:29:50,038
But I never
could find anything.
395
00:29:54,959 --> 00:29:58,171
Soon after moving in,
I started unpacking.
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00:30:00,882 --> 00:30:02,801
That's whenever I felt
like someone was
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00:30:02,884 --> 00:30:04,260
staring over my shoulder.
398
00:30:07,722 --> 00:30:08,765
Fire.
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00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:29,661
I thought it was maybe
somebody outside
400
00:30:29,744 --> 00:30:31,162
messing with me,
maybe there were neighbors
401
00:30:31,287 --> 00:30:32,664
that I've never seen before.
402
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:34,499
Maybe they have kids
or something come over there,
403
00:30:34,624 --> 00:30:36,334
and seeing the new person
move in,
404
00:30:36,459 --> 00:30:37,669
try to play pranks on 'em.
405
00:30:49,514 --> 00:30:52,809
I'm starting to sort of get
iffy about this location,
406
00:30:52,892 --> 00:30:55,520
because there's no way
some of the experiences
407
00:30:55,645 --> 00:31:00,358
that I've had, that is something
that is from this world.
408
00:31:00,441 --> 00:31:02,026
As Dave starts to feel uneasy,
409
00:31:02,151 --> 00:31:03,778
my first thought is,
"Hey, maybe this is just
410
00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:05,488
a classic fear response."
411
00:31:05,572 --> 00:31:08,032
But, as a former firefighter,
Dave has gone into
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00:31:08,116 --> 00:31:09,701
burning buildings many times.
413
00:31:09,826 --> 00:31:11,536
He does not have
the same fear threshold
414
00:31:11,619 --> 00:31:12,871
that most people have.
415
00:31:12,954 --> 00:31:15,832
It's unlikely that creaking
doors are gonna unsettle
416
00:31:15,915 --> 00:31:17,083
a man like that.
417
00:31:17,208 --> 00:31:19,085
We need to look a little deeper
for our explanation
418
00:31:19,210 --> 00:31:20,545
as to what's going on.
419
00:31:20,628 --> 00:31:23,214
Based off of everything
that Dave is saying,
420
00:31:23,298 --> 00:31:25,717
you know, the knocking,
the noises,
421
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,553
I already know that this is
going to start ramping up
422
00:31:28,678 --> 00:31:30,221
and turn into something
even bigger.
423
00:31:37,896 --> 00:31:40,106
One day I was getting ready
for work and my keys were
424
00:31:40,231 --> 00:31:41,566
nowhere to be found.
425
00:31:58,416 --> 00:32:00,251
What the hell is going on?
426
00:32:02,879 --> 00:32:04,964
As I was checking for the keys,
all of a sudden
427
00:32:05,089 --> 00:32:06,257
a radio turns on.
428
00:32:08,092 --> 00:32:09,260
Then my TV.
429
00:32:13,723 --> 00:32:16,267
I was like,
"This cannot be happening."
430
00:32:16,392 --> 00:32:18,519
Now looking
at electrical phenomena.
431
00:32:18,603 --> 00:32:20,772
Electricity is something
that spirits can manipulate
432
00:32:20,855 --> 00:32:22,023
at their own will.
433
00:32:22,106 --> 00:32:24,567
Sometimes they do it to make us
aware of their presence.
434
00:32:24,651 --> 00:32:28,696
The question is,
who is doing the manipulating?
435
00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:31,282
Is it something connected
to Dave's belongings?
436
00:32:31,366 --> 00:32:33,326
And these are the questions
that I'm gonna try and answer.
437
00:32:38,373 --> 00:32:40,625
Maybe it could be
some of the stuff that I brought
438
00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:42,627
into the cottage.
439
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:45,046
Some of these objects
that I have could be drawing
440
00:32:45,129 --> 00:32:47,298
in some, like, dark energy.
441
00:32:51,844 --> 00:32:54,806
I have some old medical slides
that I obtained
442
00:32:54,931 --> 00:32:55,974
from a hospital.
443
00:32:57,850 --> 00:33:01,229
So Dave is someone that likes
to collect all sorts of things,
444
00:33:01,312 --> 00:33:03,773
bizarre things,
antiques, and that's fine.
445
00:33:03,856 --> 00:33:05,566
There's tons of collectors
in the world.
446
00:33:05,650 --> 00:33:08,945
However, you have to be careful
when being a collector
447
00:33:09,028 --> 00:33:10,113
of antiques.
448
00:33:10,196 --> 00:33:12,281
You could be bringing home
something that might have
449
00:33:12,365 --> 00:33:16,369
a spirit attached to it
or just overall energy.
450
00:33:16,494 --> 00:33:18,037
There are items in the world
that might have
451
00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:19,747
multiple spirits attached to it.
452
00:33:19,831 --> 00:33:21,708
So if you're a collector,
you really, really have
453
00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:22,834
to pay attention.
454
00:33:23,835 --> 00:33:26,838
I have a Ouija board
that is pretty unique.
455
00:33:26,921 --> 00:33:29,340
Only 13 of them made.
456
00:33:29,424 --> 00:33:32,218
The creator of the Ouija
board, Jeraldine Saunders,
457
00:33:32,343 --> 00:33:35,722
her fiancé, Albert Dekker,
died six years earlier.
458
00:33:37,015 --> 00:33:40,018
He was found dead
hanging in the shower
459
00:33:40,101 --> 00:33:43,062
with needles in his arms
and derogatory words written
460
00:33:43,187 --> 00:33:46,774
on him in red lipstick,
and they claimed it a suicide.
461
00:33:49,235 --> 00:33:52,155
There may be a macabre story
attached to the type of board
462
00:33:52,238 --> 00:33:55,199
that Dave has in his house,
but I think that that's
463
00:33:55,283 --> 00:33:58,202
less significant simply
than the fact that there is
464
00:33:58,327 --> 00:34:01,622
a Ouija board in the house
of any kind.
465
00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:05,168
Ouija boards are pathways
for spirits to not only
466
00:34:05,251 --> 00:34:07,545
communicate with the living,
but sometimes may act
467
00:34:07,670 --> 00:34:09,422
as a conduit for them
to enter our world.
468
00:34:22,894 --> 00:34:24,896
The interesting thing
about this property,
469
00:34:25,021 --> 00:34:27,356
I did some research on it
and found out there were
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00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,610
13 owners in the 1990s
all the way up to now.
471
00:34:32,528 --> 00:34:35,531
So that's like, OK, that went
through a lot of owners.
472
00:34:37,533 --> 00:34:39,077
There's got to be a reason why.
473
00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:55,176
I saw a figure.
474
00:34:56,219 --> 00:34:59,555
It was like she was
sort of lost in a way.
475
00:35:01,641 --> 00:35:03,142
She didn't know where to go.
476
00:35:03,226 --> 00:35:05,937
I really do think that she was
looking for something.
477
00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:12,235
This is the area
where I saw her
478
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,405
and she was pacing back
and forth, back and forth.
479
00:35:16,531 --> 00:35:19,033
And I mean, as soon as she got
to this point,
480
00:35:19,117 --> 00:35:20,827
she sort of stalled
for a little bit and she kept
481
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:23,538
on pacing back and forth
more and more.
482
00:35:23,621 --> 00:35:26,707
And then she just
eventually just disappeared.
483
00:35:31,754 --> 00:35:35,591
When it comes to hauntings,
you know, there is a lot trauma
484
00:35:35,675 --> 00:35:36,676
with these spirits.
485
00:35:36,759 --> 00:35:39,428
Some of them may not even know
that they're dead.
486
00:35:39,554 --> 00:35:42,348
And they're repeating the last
thing that they knew to do,
487
00:35:42,431 --> 00:35:43,516
which could be anything.
488
00:35:47,812 --> 00:35:50,523
When I saw my landlord,
I started talking to him
489
00:35:50,606 --> 00:35:53,401
about some of the events
that's done happen to me.
490
00:35:54,902 --> 00:35:57,697
My landlord totally validated
what I saw.
491
00:35:57,780 --> 00:36:00,032
I saw a woman
in older period clothing.
492
00:36:00,116 --> 00:36:01,534
He saw the same thing.
493
00:36:09,876 --> 00:36:11,794
Jaffrey used to be
a milling town,
494
00:36:11,919 --> 00:36:15,131
and the place where Dave lives
was once a boarding house
495
00:36:15,214 --> 00:36:16,841
for some of those
milling workers.
496
00:36:16,966 --> 00:36:19,927
This was a tough
and unforgiving existence.
497
00:36:20,011 --> 00:36:22,680
There was nothing in the way
of healthcare, not the greatest
498
00:36:22,805 --> 00:36:25,933
of sanitary conditions,
an age in which people died
499
00:36:26,017 --> 00:36:29,812
at a very young age and were
often buried wherever they died,
500
00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:31,272
in the close proximity.
501
00:36:31,355 --> 00:36:34,775
It would not surprise me at all
to see that this translated
502
00:36:34,859 --> 00:36:37,486
into a haunting that Dave is
now dealing with himself.
503
00:36:58,841 --> 00:37:00,468
Oh, Jesus.
504
00:37:03,846 --> 00:37:05,181
Fire.
505
00:37:23,658 --> 00:37:24,992
Fire.
506
00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:30,289
So I came in here to see
exactly what was going on.
507
00:37:30,373 --> 00:37:32,917
I mean, it was so hot,
and this is what I found.
508
00:37:34,085 --> 00:37:35,628
I know I didn't do it
'cause I don't even use
509
00:37:35,711 --> 00:37:36,963
the last two burners.
510
00:37:37,046 --> 00:37:38,673
I'm wondering how they got
turned on.
511
00:37:38,756 --> 00:37:40,007
It just don't make
any sense to me.
512
00:37:40,091 --> 00:37:41,092
It really doesn't.
513
00:37:42,593 --> 00:37:45,221
Were not dealing with a sequence
of random events here.
514
00:37:45,346 --> 00:37:48,224
I think were looking
at a sequence of interconnected
515
00:37:48,349 --> 00:37:51,394
warnings, threats,
and possibly hazards,
516
00:37:51,477 --> 00:37:53,562
all of them directed at Dave.
517
00:37:53,646 --> 00:37:56,315
The burner could have burned
his house to the ground,
518
00:37:56,399 --> 00:37:59,443
could have burned Dave
to death if he was asleep
519
00:37:59,568 --> 00:38:00,778
while that happened.
520
00:38:00,903 --> 00:38:03,030
The fact that the spirit
haunting his home has chosen
521
00:38:03,114 --> 00:38:05,658
heat as its method
of threatening him
522
00:38:05,741 --> 00:38:07,368
may hold some significance.
523
00:38:10,454 --> 00:38:11,914
I really felt
like I was targeted.
524
00:38:11,998 --> 00:38:15,376
I felt like something was
trying to not just get
525
00:38:15,459 --> 00:38:18,838
my attention, but try to make
something fatal happen to me.
526
00:38:21,465 --> 00:38:23,634
I've thought about it
multiple times,
527
00:38:23,759 --> 00:38:26,595
of just packing up my stuff,
getting another place,
528
00:38:26,721 --> 00:38:30,182
but I've got to try to figure
this out for myself.
529
00:38:33,728 --> 00:38:35,896
I really do think these boards
are mostly,
530
00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:37,857
you know, stereotyped
because of the movies,
531
00:38:37,940 --> 00:38:41,694
but on this occasion,
all hell broke loose.
532
00:38:41,777 --> 00:38:44,030
The easiest way to describe
533
00:38:44,113 --> 00:38:47,616
why its not a good idea
to use a Ouija board is
534
00:38:47,742 --> 00:38:49,785
'cause you don't know
who you're talking to.
535
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:52,913
It's like a phone call,
just dialing any number
536
00:38:52,997 --> 00:38:54,290
and saying who picks up.
537
00:38:54,415 --> 00:38:55,458
Who are you?
538
00:38:57,001 --> 00:39:01,380
I was hoping for validation
to actually find out a name,
539
00:39:01,464 --> 00:39:04,133
something where I can
end the haunting.
540
00:39:21,484 --> 00:39:22,485
Fire!
541
00:39:26,322 --> 00:39:27,531
Fire!
542
00:39:29,825 --> 00:39:30,993
Fire!
543
00:39:34,497 --> 00:39:35,539
Fire.
544
00:39:36,999 --> 00:39:38,042
Fire.
545
00:39:40,503 --> 00:39:41,587
Fire.
546
00:39:43,047 --> 00:39:45,049
Fire!
547
00:39:48,260 --> 00:39:49,345
And that's when it was done.
548
00:39:50,429 --> 00:39:51,972
Close the board out,
I was done with it.
549
00:39:53,474 --> 00:39:55,684
There are a lot of pieces
to this puzzle that we have
550
00:39:55,768 --> 00:39:58,521
to try and put together
if we're to solve it.
551
00:39:58,646 --> 00:40:01,690
Research shows that there were
a series of fires in Jaffrey
552
00:40:01,774 --> 00:40:04,485
in the late 1700s, which ripped
through the town
553
00:40:04,568 --> 00:40:06,320
and took a number
of lives.
554
00:40:06,404 --> 00:40:09,657
In 1793, those fires ripped
through two of the town's
555
00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:13,285
schoolhouses, which were there
for the children of the people
556
00:40:13,369 --> 00:40:15,037
that worked in the mill.
557
00:40:15,162 --> 00:40:17,498
Is it possible the woman Dave
has seen is in fact the mother
558
00:40:17,581 --> 00:40:19,125
of one of those children?
559
00:40:19,208 --> 00:40:22,545
If that is the case,
one question still remains.
560
00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:25,172
Why is she so angry at Dave?
561
00:40:27,383 --> 00:40:29,927
I started connecting
the stove incident
562
00:40:30,052 --> 00:40:31,971
plus the schoolhouse being
burnt down
563
00:40:32,054 --> 00:40:35,057
and also me being
an ex-firefighter,
564
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:39,728
I might be the target
because the mother of the family
565
00:40:39,812 --> 00:40:41,981
was mad at the firefighters
because they weren't able
566
00:40:42,064 --> 00:40:43,691
to get in there
and save the family.
567
00:40:43,774 --> 00:40:45,734
I mean, me being
an ex-firefighter,
568
00:40:45,818 --> 00:40:48,028
that sort of lines up.
569
00:40:51,907 --> 00:40:53,617
You know, it really opened up
my mind.
570
00:40:58,998 --> 00:41:00,666
Fire!
571
00:41:00,749 --> 00:41:02,460
That's a lot of trauma
to go through.
572
00:41:05,754 --> 00:41:08,007
Mother has lost their family.
573
00:41:12,761 --> 00:41:16,348
It started tugging at my heart
that she was lost
574
00:41:16,432 --> 00:41:18,684
and she was going
through all this and...
575
00:41:18,767 --> 00:41:20,644
that's why I did the cleansing,
because I really wanted
576
00:41:20,769 --> 00:41:25,357
to move on and wanted her
to be with her children.
577
00:41:25,441 --> 00:41:27,234
And I really hope it works out
for the best,
578
00:41:28,569 --> 00:41:31,030
but in the back of my head,
I really think this haunting
579
00:41:31,113 --> 00:41:32,323
will continue.
580
00:41:32,448 --> 00:41:33,574
When it comes
to Dave Childers case,
581
00:41:33,657 --> 00:41:36,452
I feel that this spirit is
so angry with him
582
00:41:36,535 --> 00:41:38,787
because Dave was a firefighter.
583
00:41:38,871 --> 00:41:41,248
To me, this is a clear case
of revenge.
584
00:41:46,921 --> 00:41:51,550
This experience really
taught me a lot about spirit
585
00:41:53,052 --> 00:41:55,137
and how they can communicate
586
00:41:57,515 --> 00:42:00,643
and be around you and actually
make you acknowledge them.
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