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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,543 --> 00:00:04,546 I saw something that I would never be able to shake. 2 00:00:05,797 --> 00:00:08,341 There was something in the house with me. 3 00:00:08,425 --> 00:00:09,843 I was trapped. 4 00:00:09,926 --> 00:00:11,344 Even though you can see the black figure, 5 00:00:11,469 --> 00:00:13,179 but you can't actually physically touch it... 6 00:00:15,140 --> 00:00:17,267 ...it was more frightening than me dying. 7 00:00:17,350 --> 00:00:20,437 Could this be a former staff member who spent his entire 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,522 life abusing children 9 00:00:22,647 --> 00:00:25,400 and is continuing to do this in the afterlife? 10 00:00:25,525 --> 00:00:27,610 I don't know if I died. 11 00:00:27,694 --> 00:00:29,029 Stay with me, Alex. 12 00:00:29,154 --> 00:00:33,074 But I could see myself on the table. 13 00:00:33,199 --> 00:00:35,285 You are kind of Earth-side, but you're also 14 00:00:35,368 --> 00:00:37,996 in the spiritual realm, so it really makes you susceptible 15 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:41,875 and vulnerable to the spirit realm that is around you. 16 00:00:41,958 --> 00:00:43,835 I thought he was gonna end my life. 17 00:00:43,918 --> 00:00:45,128 I thought he was gonna kill me. 18 00:00:45,211 --> 00:00:49,299 A huge amount of rage is being directed at Alex Matsuo. 19 00:00:49,382 --> 00:00:52,677 And we need to figure out why, if this is to be stopped. 20 00:00:53,887 --> 00:00:54,888 It watches from afar. 21 00:00:56,890 --> 00:00:58,308 So it could attack again. 22 00:00:58,391 --> 00:01:00,560 Ahh! 23 00:01:46,773 --> 00:01:48,274 I grew up in New York 24 00:01:48,358 --> 00:01:49,859 in a county called Rockland County. 25 00:01:51,361 --> 00:01:54,739 It's 30 miles outside of Manhattan in New York City. 26 00:01:59,285 --> 00:02:03,289 We were New Yorkers, but we had grass and we had a front yard. 27 00:02:03,414 --> 00:02:06,126 And I lived a middle-class, suburbia lifestyle. 28 00:02:07,544 --> 00:02:09,462 That was a typical little suburban kid riding around 29 00:02:09,546 --> 00:02:12,090 on my BMX bike, skateboarding, hanging out 30 00:02:12,173 --> 00:02:13,925 with my friends, having a good time. 31 00:02:15,093 --> 00:02:18,680 Everything's normal. You know, I'm enjoying myself. 32 00:02:18,805 --> 00:02:20,515 These are the good times in my life. 33 00:02:22,976 --> 00:02:24,769 But I had no idea it would get worse. 34 00:02:28,898 --> 00:02:29,816 Tawney Lewis, take one. 35 00:02:29,941 --> 00:02:31,860 Mark. 36 00:02:31,985 --> 00:02:34,821 The case of Dedrick Hilton is one of the most intriguing 37 00:02:34,904 --> 00:02:37,615 cases that I have ever researched. 38 00:02:37,699 --> 00:02:40,034 It has spanned many decades. 39 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,370 And it started when he was just seven years old. 40 00:02:46,708 --> 00:02:48,918 Growing up, it was my mom, my dad, and my sister, 41 00:02:49,002 --> 00:02:50,044 and I have an older sister. 42 00:02:51,296 --> 00:02:53,423 In my bedroom, I shared a bedroom as a child growing up 43 00:02:53,506 --> 00:02:56,134 with my sister, and we had a black-and-white TV, 44 00:02:56,217 --> 00:03:00,138 because that was our first TV, and a dresser, and I remember 45 00:03:00,221 --> 00:03:03,016 a window where I could look outside and see the apple tree. 46 00:03:03,141 --> 00:03:05,018 It was just a typical Saturday. 47 00:03:11,858 --> 00:03:13,860 At the foot of the bed is where I saw something 48 00:03:13,985 --> 00:03:16,988 that I would never be able to shake. 49 00:03:17,071 --> 00:03:18,281 Something woke me up. 50 00:03:41,095 --> 00:03:46,059 I woke up to see like some type of strange smoke occurring, 51 00:03:46,142 --> 00:03:47,310 like right here. 52 00:03:47,393 --> 00:03:49,938 It was strangely, like, moving around. 53 00:03:55,401 --> 00:03:56,653 I was a curious seven-year-old. 54 00:04:00,031 --> 00:04:01,741 I also didn't know what ghosts were 55 00:04:01,824 --> 00:04:03,409 or what it meant to be haunted. 56 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,416 I leaned closer into the smoke, and I put my finger through it. 57 00:04:17,590 --> 00:04:20,301 I realized that this cloud of smoke was beginning 58 00:04:20,426 --> 00:04:21,928 to form a shape. 59 00:04:33,147 --> 00:04:36,317 And when I touched it, it fully took form. 60 00:04:36,442 --> 00:04:38,987 And that's when I realized, this is not smoke. 61 00:04:41,447 --> 00:04:43,199 I could see the eyes, I could see the shoulder, I could see 62 00:04:43,283 --> 00:04:46,452 the arms, but I could not see his mouth or his nose 63 00:04:46,577 --> 00:04:47,578 or anything else. 64 00:04:52,250 --> 00:04:53,334 I decided to touch it again. 65 00:05:10,768 --> 00:05:13,563 It just faded away. It disappeared. 66 00:05:19,152 --> 00:05:22,071 As a paranormal researcher, whenever there is a case that 67 00:05:22,155 --> 00:05:25,658 involves children, you know, I really listen to them because 68 00:05:25,742 --> 00:05:27,994 after you talk to them, you're like, "You know what, 69 00:05:28,077 --> 00:05:30,997 "imaginary friend, or actually, no, this is 70 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,498 getting kind of creepy." 71 00:05:32,623 --> 00:05:34,042 Sometimes darker spirits will 72 00:05:34,167 --> 00:05:39,255 come in as a dark mass or a dark, heavy mist or fog. 73 00:05:39,339 --> 00:05:42,383 So that is what Dedrick encountered, which immediately 74 00:05:42,508 --> 00:05:45,428 let me know that this was something darker. 75 00:05:45,511 --> 00:05:48,306 Being a seven-year-old child and seeing something like this, 76 00:05:49,766 --> 00:05:53,436 I was confused about how to approach my mom and dad 77 00:05:53,519 --> 00:05:55,355 about it, or even my older sister. 78 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,357 I decided to just keep it to myself because I didn't wanna 79 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,317 look like I was telling them a fib or anything. 80 00:06:07,867 --> 00:06:09,202 Nice. 81 00:06:13,122 --> 00:06:15,583 All right, I'm going to go make dinner, OK? 82 00:06:17,543 --> 00:06:20,129 My mother was on the phone, like, always, every Saturday, 83 00:06:22,382 --> 00:06:23,925 and I was playing with my toys... 84 00:06:24,967 --> 00:06:25,968 down here. 85 00:06:36,896 --> 00:06:39,899 And this Saturday, I felt that same feeling again that I felt 86 00:06:40,024 --> 00:06:42,735 a year ago, like something was coming. 87 00:06:52,954 --> 00:06:55,206 These hands, like, gripped me tight around my ankle. 88 00:07:00,586 --> 00:07:02,422 Mom! 89 00:07:02,547 --> 00:07:04,257 It pulled me out of eyesight from my mother. 90 00:07:12,432 --> 00:07:14,934 And I kicked and kicked, and I broke free. 91 00:07:15,059 --> 00:07:17,270 And that's when I tore out of my mother's room. 92 00:07:17,353 --> 00:07:18,646 So I ran to my mom for help. 93 00:07:19,730 --> 00:07:21,190 My mother dropped the phone, 94 00:07:21,274 --> 00:07:23,484 and that's when she came to my aid. 95 00:07:23,609 --> 00:07:25,945 Later that night, she told my father about it. 96 00:07:26,070 --> 00:07:28,948 He believed my story. He didn't brush it off. 97 00:07:29,073 --> 00:07:32,118 I guess I was more alarmed because of his reaction, 98 00:07:32,243 --> 00:07:33,369 his reaction of... 99 00:07:34,579 --> 00:07:36,581 concern and belief. 100 00:07:36,664 --> 00:07:38,958 I could see it written all over his face. 101 00:07:39,041 --> 00:07:41,961 My dad definitely knew something about this entity. 102 00:07:42,044 --> 00:07:44,881 In the minds of children, you know, they feared closets 103 00:07:44,964 --> 00:07:47,258 or under the bed because that's where the monsters live. 104 00:07:47,341 --> 00:07:51,262 And so for someone like Dedrick to have that trauma just 105 00:07:51,345 --> 00:07:53,306 instilled in his brain of this spirit 106 00:07:53,431 --> 00:07:55,641 dragging him under the bed, 107 00:07:55,725 --> 00:07:59,020 it's all about the control aspect of the spirit, 108 00:07:59,145 --> 00:08:04,317 just trying to show that he can absolutely manipulate Dedrick. 109 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:05,943 It was an attack. 110 00:08:06,027 --> 00:08:08,529 What it wanted at seven, I didn't know yet. 111 00:08:09,530 --> 00:08:12,033 I just knew it came back aggressive and more violent. 112 00:08:14,577 --> 00:08:18,164 Because I was only seven at the time, I had no idea 113 00:08:18,247 --> 00:08:21,250 that we were living in one of the most haunted places 114 00:08:21,334 --> 00:08:24,921 on Earth, the Hudson River Valley in upstate New York. 115 00:08:32,178 --> 00:08:35,014 In Rockland County, there was a mental institution called 116 00:08:35,097 --> 00:08:38,893 Letchworth Village that was actually opened in 1911. 117 00:08:39,018 --> 00:08:42,522 And there was so much abuse, terrible conditions, 118 00:08:42,605 --> 00:08:44,649 people dying. 119 00:08:44,732 --> 00:08:46,859 And then knowing that there was so many children 120 00:08:46,943 --> 00:08:48,736 that had perished there. 121 00:08:48,861 --> 00:08:51,614 And so I wonder, with all the years, the history of that 122 00:08:51,697 --> 00:08:55,493 location, could this be a former staff member who spent 123 00:08:55,576 --> 00:08:59,330 his entire life abusing children and is continuing 124 00:08:59,413 --> 00:09:00,665 to do this in the afterlife? 125 00:09:06,921 --> 00:09:09,382 I took the incident and placed it deep down inside, 126 00:09:09,507 --> 00:09:11,551 and I didn't think about it anymore. 127 00:09:11,676 --> 00:09:14,762 I went on with my day-to-day life, and everything seemed 128 00:09:14,887 --> 00:09:16,055 like it was going back to normal. 129 00:09:22,353 --> 00:09:23,854 So, about a year passed by, 130 00:09:26,774 --> 00:09:29,068 and that's when this thing came back again. 131 00:09:40,079 --> 00:09:41,080 This entity... 132 00:09:42,206 --> 00:09:44,542 has a certain energy to it. 133 00:09:44,625 --> 00:09:48,337 It feels like someone's staring at you in the crowd. 134 00:10:20,244 --> 00:10:21,621 Hello there. 135 00:10:23,748 --> 00:10:25,541 What do we have here? 136 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,211 Fee... 137 00:10:29,295 --> 00:10:31,213 Fi... 138 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:33,257 Fo... 139 00:10:33,341 --> 00:10:36,677 I've been looking forward to [indistinct]. 140 00:10:51,233 --> 00:10:53,736 It was far more angrier and violent. 141 00:10:53,819 --> 00:10:56,822 I've been looking. 142 00:10:56,947 --> 00:10:59,992 It was pushing on me aggressively, trying to pin me 143 00:11:00,117 --> 00:11:02,453 down, and I was paralyzed. I couldn't move. 144 00:11:04,705 --> 00:11:06,457 I could feel it, like it was trying to push me 145 00:11:06,540 --> 00:11:08,167 through my mattress. 146 00:11:11,295 --> 00:11:14,799 This entity was so dark, like, its body shape. 147 00:11:14,924 --> 00:11:16,217 This time, I can't see through it. 148 00:11:16,300 --> 00:11:20,179 You're just looking deep into dark black mass. 149 00:11:21,639 --> 00:11:23,057 Even though you can see the black figure, 150 00:11:23,140 --> 00:11:25,768 but you can't actually physically touch it, 151 00:11:25,851 --> 00:11:27,937 was more frightening than me dying. 152 00:11:32,608 --> 00:11:34,735 I said, "Get the F up off me." 153 00:11:37,655 --> 00:11:39,699 I could feel it lightening up, and just like that, 154 00:11:39,824 --> 00:11:40,991 it was gone. 155 00:11:47,623 --> 00:11:49,834 When a person is fighting back a spirit, 156 00:11:49,917 --> 00:11:52,294 it depends on what their mindset is. 157 00:11:52,378 --> 00:11:56,257 So if you have control over the situation, if you have 158 00:11:56,340 --> 00:11:59,385 control over what's happening, the spirit will feel that 159 00:11:59,510 --> 00:12:00,970 and they will back off. 160 00:12:01,053 --> 00:12:04,306 Anger and fear are potential energy sources 161 00:12:04,390 --> 00:12:05,766 for paranormal activity. 162 00:12:08,436 --> 00:12:12,189 Between the ages 7 and 18, I encountered this entity 163 00:12:13,482 --> 00:12:14,859 on several different occasions. 164 00:12:16,318 --> 00:12:19,864 And each time it came back stronger, more aggressive. 165 00:12:19,947 --> 00:12:23,451 I felt like it was tracking me at times. 166 00:12:25,202 --> 00:12:29,290 There's way too many personal attacks towards Dedrick 167 00:12:29,373 --> 00:12:30,958 to think that it has anything to do 168 00:12:31,041 --> 00:12:32,543 with the mental institution. 169 00:12:32,626 --> 00:12:36,088 I can't imagine a spirit from Letchworth Village wanting 170 00:12:36,213 --> 00:12:39,383 to focus that much on Dedrick, so it has to be something else. 171 00:12:40,843 --> 00:12:43,220 I felt like this entity was trying to weaken me, like it 172 00:12:43,304 --> 00:12:47,266 didn't want me going forward somewhere, and it wanted me 173 00:12:47,391 --> 00:12:50,227 to be weakened where I become submissive to it. 174 00:12:54,732 --> 00:12:56,984 That's when I remember something I heard in my house 175 00:12:57,067 --> 00:12:58,235 over and over again. 176 00:12:59,737 --> 00:13:02,615 Growing up, I heard from my uncles and aunts a whole lot 177 00:13:02,740 --> 00:13:05,534 about our culture, which is called Gullah Geechee culture. 178 00:13:08,913 --> 00:13:11,248 Gullah Geechee is a group of people. 179 00:13:11,332 --> 00:13:13,209 It's the oldest group of Blacks in America. 180 00:13:15,294 --> 00:13:17,254 We have our own language, our own folklore, 181 00:13:17,338 --> 00:13:19,465 our own way of praying, 182 00:13:19,590 --> 00:13:21,675 and our own way of seeing the spiritual realm. 183 00:13:24,804 --> 00:13:26,847 Gullah Geechee is actually in my lineage, 184 00:13:26,931 --> 00:13:28,516 on my mother's side. 185 00:13:28,599 --> 00:13:32,853 The Gullah Geechee people are descendants from West Africa, 186 00:13:32,937 --> 00:13:35,105 and they were brought over 187 00:13:35,231 --> 00:13:38,609 to be enslaved, and they are very spiritual people. 188 00:13:38,734 --> 00:13:41,445 Well, in the Gullah culture, they talk about ghosts often, 189 00:13:41,529 --> 00:13:42,905 even in the churches. 190 00:13:42,988 --> 00:13:44,323 And we have this... 191 00:13:45,616 --> 00:13:47,284 entity we call "the hag." 192 00:13:49,954 --> 00:13:51,288 It... 193 00:13:51,372 --> 00:13:53,165 comes into people's homes, 194 00:13:53,290 --> 00:13:55,459 and they say it could slide underneath doors. 195 00:13:55,584 --> 00:13:57,837 It could get in through cracks, window cracks. 196 00:13:57,962 --> 00:13:59,588 Entity gets on top of you. 197 00:13:59,672 --> 00:14:03,092 It has you pinned down, and the elders call it "riding." 198 00:14:03,175 --> 00:14:06,470 Similar to a vampire, but instead of the hag wanting 199 00:14:06,595 --> 00:14:10,015 your blood, they actually want your breath, 200 00:14:10,140 --> 00:14:11,725 because it builds the energy. 201 00:14:11,809 --> 00:14:13,727 It allows them to manifest themselves 202 00:14:13,811 --> 00:14:15,479 to become bigger and powerful. 203 00:14:15,563 --> 00:14:17,022 So now I'm wondering, 204 00:14:17,147 --> 00:14:19,608 you know, is Dedrick onto something? 205 00:14:19,692 --> 00:14:21,944 Is this a manifestation of the hag? 206 00:14:23,821 --> 00:14:25,990 I really felt like it was draining me. 207 00:14:26,115 --> 00:14:29,410 My dad starts explaining to me more and more about the hag. 208 00:14:30,703 --> 00:14:33,664 I asked my father, have you even seen it before? 209 00:14:33,747 --> 00:14:35,708 And he said he's seen it one time in our home. 210 00:14:37,918 --> 00:14:39,378 And that's why I thought, "All right, well, maybe when 211 00:14:39,503 --> 00:14:42,339 I go off to college, this thing will leave me alone." 212 00:14:42,464 --> 00:14:44,383 And when I turned 19, that's what I did. 213 00:14:49,305 --> 00:14:52,141 As soon as I left my home, that's when all the stuff 214 00:14:52,224 --> 00:14:53,642 with the hag had stopped. 215 00:14:53,726 --> 00:14:55,811 I went upstate in the Catskill Mountains. 216 00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:58,272 That's roughly about two and a half hours away from my home. 217 00:15:05,154 --> 00:15:06,572 I was a typical college student. 218 00:15:06,697 --> 00:15:07,865 I'm enjoying my life now. 219 00:15:07,990 --> 00:15:09,742 You know, I'm meeting new people. 220 00:15:09,867 --> 00:15:11,368 Times is great. 221 00:15:11,452 --> 00:15:13,495 Things are very good for me in college at this time. 222 00:15:40,648 --> 00:15:43,817 But it came back again, far more aggressive, 223 00:15:43,901 --> 00:15:45,486 far more dark, 224 00:15:45,569 --> 00:15:47,571 far more vengeful than it ever did before. 225 00:16:05,965 --> 00:16:08,258 I'm laying in my bed and there's a window 226 00:16:08,384 --> 00:16:10,260 at the foot of my bed with a forest. 227 00:16:14,098 --> 00:16:16,558 This time, I saw it coming from the woods. 228 00:16:23,816 --> 00:16:26,986 I could feel this energy, like a force coming. 229 00:16:30,489 --> 00:16:31,657 And I'm looking at the forest, 230 00:16:32,866 --> 00:16:35,285 and I'm looking at it, and I'm like, "What is that?" 231 00:16:44,169 --> 00:16:45,963 It never left me. 232 00:16:46,088 --> 00:16:49,842 It was waiting for the perfect opportunity to attack 233 00:16:49,967 --> 00:16:51,969 and try to break me down. 234 00:17:05,607 --> 00:17:08,068 I saw the dark spirit in the woods. 235 00:17:08,152 --> 00:17:10,529 It came through the grass, through the walls, 236 00:17:10,612 --> 00:17:11,989 into my dorm room. 237 00:17:12,114 --> 00:17:14,408 I got you. 238 00:17:16,618 --> 00:17:18,579 I hit the floor. It's on me. 239 00:17:20,164 --> 00:17:22,291 It wanted me bad this time around. 240 00:17:22,416 --> 00:17:24,043 Matter of fact, it didn't come back stronger. 241 00:17:24,126 --> 00:17:26,086 It came back angry. 242 00:17:28,422 --> 00:17:30,466 I'm in a whole different place. 243 00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:31,925 And it's here. 244 00:17:32,009 --> 00:17:33,385 It followed me. 245 00:17:36,346 --> 00:17:37,264 It's more aggressive. 246 00:17:37,347 --> 00:17:39,975 Its nails are longer as it's digging to me. 247 00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:41,810 It's wrestling with me. It's pulling me. 248 00:17:46,065 --> 00:17:48,859 I say, "Get out my effing room, now! 249 00:17:48,984 --> 00:17:49,985 Now!" 250 00:17:58,786 --> 00:18:00,621 I jump up. 251 00:18:00,704 --> 00:18:02,664 I take off running through our townhouse. 252 00:18:02,748 --> 00:18:04,333 I tripped over the first two steps to get me up 253 00:18:04,458 --> 00:18:06,543 the staircase to where my roommates was at. 254 00:18:06,668 --> 00:18:08,629 They could see that I'm upset. 255 00:18:09,630 --> 00:18:11,340 They're walking through my room, they're checking, 256 00:18:11,465 --> 00:18:14,134 they're checking the bed, they're checking the window. 257 00:18:14,218 --> 00:18:16,053 They didn't see anything. 258 00:18:17,513 --> 00:18:19,306 The whole thing scared me so bad, 259 00:18:19,389 --> 00:18:21,517 the next day I couldn't even function. 260 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,393 For the next couple of nights, all I could think of... 261 00:18:25,187 --> 00:18:26,939 "Please don't come bother me again." 262 00:18:27,022 --> 00:18:29,024 Because there's no way I'll survive round two. 263 00:18:30,067 --> 00:18:31,777 Not the way it threw me on the floor. 264 00:18:32,903 --> 00:18:34,655 No way. 265 00:18:34,738 --> 00:18:37,032 Dedrick's attempt to fight back, he's actually 266 00:18:37,157 --> 00:18:39,201 feeding this spirit. 267 00:18:39,284 --> 00:18:43,705 This spirit loves the fear. 268 00:18:43,831 --> 00:18:47,209 That spirit loves it when he has control over Dedrick, 269 00:18:47,334 --> 00:18:49,378 and he feels like he's gonna take control of him 270 00:18:49,503 --> 00:18:51,547 from now through the rest of his life. 271 00:18:51,672 --> 00:18:54,216 When it comes to the hag theory, I do not think 272 00:18:54,341 --> 00:18:57,052 that this is what's after Dedrick. 273 00:18:57,136 --> 00:18:59,221 The hag is a part of the Geechee culture, 274 00:18:59,304 --> 00:19:01,473 which I know is a part of his life. 275 00:19:01,557 --> 00:19:05,769 However, this is seen as more of a female type of spirit, 276 00:19:05,894 --> 00:19:09,231 whereas what Dedrick is seeing, the way it's being described, 277 00:19:09,356 --> 00:19:10,566 is a male. 278 00:19:11,859 --> 00:19:14,069 What I was dealing with was something spiritual. 279 00:19:15,571 --> 00:19:17,281 That was evident. 280 00:19:17,406 --> 00:19:20,367 And it's following me from city to city, town to town, 281 00:19:20,450 --> 00:19:22,828 home to home. And I'm tired of it. 282 00:19:22,911 --> 00:19:24,413 Why is this thing following me? 283 00:19:24,538 --> 00:19:25,998 What does it want from me? 284 00:19:26,081 --> 00:19:28,125 And why is it coming back stronger and stronger? 285 00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:30,377 There are spirits out there that will track people 286 00:19:30,460 --> 00:19:31,670 their entire lives. 287 00:19:31,753 --> 00:19:34,006 And I'm actually shocked with this particular case because 288 00:19:34,089 --> 00:19:35,924 I don't think I've seen it yet 289 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:37,926 with an African American person. 290 00:19:38,051 --> 00:19:38,927 It's very rare. 291 00:19:39,052 --> 00:19:40,846 So to me, there's something different. 292 00:19:40,929 --> 00:19:43,307 There's something deeper here, to where I'm like, "I really 293 00:19:43,432 --> 00:19:46,518 "want to uncover who the spirit is and why does it feel 294 00:19:46,602 --> 00:19:48,020 so attached to Dedrick." 295 00:19:50,772 --> 00:19:54,610 I was so desperate, I began to dig deep into my family past. 296 00:19:55,986 --> 00:19:58,155 That's when I found out, back in the 1800s, 297 00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:01,366 that my great grandfather, Sam Hendrick, was running 298 00:20:01,450 --> 00:20:03,994 a successful turpentine business. 299 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,456 He was from the Caribbean Isle of Haiti, so he came over here 300 00:20:07,581 --> 00:20:09,625 as a free Black, because Haiti was the first 301 00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:11,919 free Black country. 302 00:20:12,002 --> 00:20:14,880 So people were not used to seeing someone of his stature 303 00:20:14,963 --> 00:20:17,090 during this era 304 00:20:17,174 --> 00:20:19,092 maneuvering around freely, 305 00:20:19,176 --> 00:20:21,637 confident, because he wasn't a slave. 306 00:20:23,096 --> 00:20:26,183 He bought 200 acres of land just about, 307 00:20:26,308 --> 00:20:27,643 which we still own to this day. 308 00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:31,605 And everyone didn't agree with 309 00:20:31,688 --> 00:20:33,857 him having this property and this land. 310 00:20:35,609 --> 00:20:37,277 Dr. Hagen resent the fact 311 00:20:37,361 --> 00:20:39,947 that this Black family owned all this land 312 00:20:40,030 --> 00:20:41,990 and they were working for themselves. 313 00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:45,661 And his reputation was not the greatest. 314 00:20:45,744 --> 00:20:47,788 He was not just mean towards Black people, 315 00:20:47,871 --> 00:20:50,040 but even other races in the community, 316 00:20:50,165 --> 00:20:52,668 white people that had a problem with him, too. 317 00:20:52,751 --> 00:20:54,169 Dr. Hagen eventually passed. 318 00:20:55,420 --> 00:20:57,422 The legend goes that when they buried him, 319 00:20:57,506 --> 00:20:59,758 they buried him in the front yard of his home, 320 00:20:59,841 --> 00:21:02,970 and some town people came up and dug up his body 321 00:21:03,053 --> 00:21:05,430 and scattered his bones all across the front yard. 322 00:21:07,641 --> 00:21:10,852 It was hard for him to track down who threw these bones 323 00:21:10,978 --> 00:21:14,398 across the yard because many of the town people hated him. 324 00:21:14,523 --> 00:21:17,693 Not just the Black American population, but many 325 00:21:17,818 --> 00:21:19,820 of the white folks in town hated him, too. 326 00:21:22,364 --> 00:21:24,116 Things started to get a little weird back there 327 00:21:24,199 --> 00:21:25,701 on this property. 328 00:21:25,784 --> 00:21:29,037 People claimed they started seeing images of him 329 00:21:29,121 --> 00:21:30,330 walking around. 330 00:21:30,414 --> 00:21:33,125 They could hear his voice deep in the woods at night. 331 00:21:35,961 --> 00:21:39,715 I started putting it together, and I believe these attacks was 332 00:21:39,798 --> 00:21:42,217 occurring due to Dr. Hagen 333 00:21:42,301 --> 00:21:44,428 being resentful and angry at my family 334 00:21:44,553 --> 00:21:45,554 and my family lineage. 335 00:21:46,930 --> 00:21:49,599 And now I'm at college and I was the next in line. 336 00:21:52,227 --> 00:21:56,648 I am absolutely sure that this entity is Dr. Hagen. 337 00:21:56,732 --> 00:22:00,444 In life, Dr. Hagen was a racist man. 338 00:22:00,569 --> 00:22:02,279 You know, he did not want to see 339 00:22:02,404 --> 00:22:04,406 African Americans prospering. 340 00:22:04,531 --> 00:22:06,575 This was a family that actually had their own house, 341 00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:07,617 their own property. 342 00:22:07,743 --> 00:22:10,287 It basically was a personal attack. 343 00:22:10,412 --> 00:22:13,415 This spirit was trying get revenge on not just Dedrick, 344 00:22:13,540 --> 00:22:14,916 but his whole family. 345 00:22:17,085 --> 00:22:19,421 After the experience I had in college, 346 00:22:19,504 --> 00:22:21,214 I start digging deeper 347 00:22:21,298 --> 00:22:23,383 into other forms of spirituality. 348 00:22:26,428 --> 00:22:29,765 And as I got stronger in my spiritual walking path, 349 00:22:31,641 --> 00:22:33,935 this entity seems to keep his distance. 350 00:22:36,938 --> 00:22:38,065 I feel it present today. 351 00:22:39,066 --> 00:22:40,901 It never leaves. 352 00:22:40,984 --> 00:22:42,152 It watches from afar 353 00:22:42,277 --> 00:22:44,112 for the opportunity to attack again. 354 00:22:45,530 --> 00:22:47,407 But I learned how to handle him, 355 00:22:48,992 --> 00:22:50,327 or whatever it is that he's sending. 356 00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:52,788 I learned how to counter it. 357 00:22:54,039 --> 00:22:57,125 He has 100% control, which would explain 358 00:22:57,250 --> 00:22:59,836 why the spirit has completely backed off. 359 00:22:59,961 --> 00:23:03,382 With Dedrick's story, I feel like it encapsulates 360 00:23:03,465 --> 00:23:05,717 so much about history, 361 00:23:05,801 --> 00:23:09,054 the U.S. history, and racism, 362 00:23:09,137 --> 00:23:11,681 slavery, the Gullah Geechee. 363 00:23:11,807 --> 00:23:13,642 There are not a lot of paranormal researchers 364 00:23:13,725 --> 00:23:15,102 that look like me. 365 00:23:15,185 --> 00:23:17,854 So to be able to actually talk about this with someone 366 00:23:17,979 --> 00:23:19,773 like Dedrick, you know, it's fascinating. 367 00:23:21,858 --> 00:23:24,152 I stand tall and I curse at it in the dark. 368 00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:27,447 And so far, that's worked just fine. 369 00:23:57,144 --> 00:23:58,645 I grew up in San Diego. 370 00:24:00,355 --> 00:24:03,358 It was the land of perfect weather and great beaches. 371 00:24:05,527 --> 00:24:07,696 I was living the dream life. I was in college. 372 00:24:07,821 --> 00:24:10,157 I lived next to the beach. I was doing a show. 373 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,450 I was a working actor. 374 00:24:12,909 --> 00:24:16,288 That all came to an end on New Year's Eve, 2005. 375 00:24:18,206 --> 00:24:20,584 On the rare occasion, it was raining in San Diego 376 00:24:20,667 --> 00:24:22,043 on New Year's Eve, 377 00:24:23,336 --> 00:24:25,505 and I was on my way to a party. 378 00:24:27,340 --> 00:24:30,177 In the rain, the road became extremely slick. 379 00:24:32,137 --> 00:24:35,807 I was on the freeway ramp when I lost control of my car. 380 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:42,355 I hit the guardrail, and my car was damaged. 381 00:24:42,439 --> 00:24:43,440 I got out of the car. 382 00:24:43,523 --> 00:24:45,108 I see this car coming towards me. 383 00:24:46,776 --> 00:24:47,986 The car hits me. 384 00:24:48,069 --> 00:24:52,699 I roll off the hood, and I fell 25 feet off the freeway ramp. 385 00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:02,542 Code blue, room 305. 386 00:25:04,211 --> 00:25:06,796 I do remember them unloading me out of the ambulance 387 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,257 and rolling me into the trauma center. 388 00:25:10,675 --> 00:25:12,511 I started to fade in and out. 389 00:25:13,887 --> 00:25:16,097 At that point, something changed. 390 00:25:17,432 --> 00:25:21,102 The paranormal world, there's a dark side to it, 391 00:25:21,228 --> 00:25:22,771 and it can be terrifying. 392 00:25:31,738 --> 00:25:33,990 I felt excruciating pain. 393 00:25:34,074 --> 00:25:36,201 Excruciating pain. 394 00:25:36,284 --> 00:25:39,913 I had extensive damage in my internal organs. 395 00:25:40,038 --> 00:25:42,249 I had vertically sheared my pelvis. 396 00:25:42,374 --> 00:25:43,917 I shattered my tailbone, 397 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,752 and I broke three vertebrae in my back. 398 00:25:48,922 --> 00:25:50,465 Erin Goodpipe. Take one. 399 00:25:50,590 --> 00:25:51,716 Mark. 400 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,553 The case of Alex Matsuo is really one that was triggered 401 00:25:54,636 --> 00:25:56,096 by extreme trauma. 402 00:25:59,516 --> 00:26:01,101 The paranormal literature tells us that 403 00:26:01,184 --> 00:26:04,312 there is a correlation between sustaining serious head trauma 404 00:26:04,437 --> 00:26:06,648 and a psychic awakening, if you will, 405 00:26:06,773 --> 00:26:09,401 in that mysterious realm between life and death. 406 00:26:10,527 --> 00:26:13,613 Alex Matsuo found herself in the crosshairs of something 407 00:26:13,738 --> 00:26:14,739 from the other side. 408 00:26:17,617 --> 00:26:20,287 I remember them rolling me into the room where they were 409 00:26:20,412 --> 00:26:22,289 going to start working on me. 410 00:26:22,372 --> 00:26:24,291 Alex, stay with me, Alex. 411 00:26:27,794 --> 00:26:31,590 There is somebody on the bed next to me covered in blood, 412 00:26:31,673 --> 00:26:33,633 and I hear him screaming. 413 00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:38,013 And I'm like, "I'm in the same room as this man." 414 00:26:39,014 --> 00:26:41,933 Probably means something bad is going to happen to me, too. 415 00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:47,188 In my mind, I was thinking, "This is it. 416 00:26:47,314 --> 00:26:48,481 I think I'm going to die." 417 00:26:52,110 --> 00:26:54,821 All of a sudden, things just stopped. 418 00:26:55,905 --> 00:26:58,908 And I don't know, like, it was an out-of-body experience 419 00:26:58,992 --> 00:27:02,495 from the trauma, or it was a hallucination, or my body was 420 00:27:02,579 --> 00:27:04,831 so tired of the pain it checked out. 421 00:27:04,956 --> 00:27:06,583 Everything just went quiet. 422 00:27:09,502 --> 00:27:11,755 I don't know if I died, 423 00:27:11,838 --> 00:27:14,883 but I could see myself on the table. 424 00:27:17,969 --> 00:27:20,388 I truly believe that this was passing on. 425 00:27:20,513 --> 00:27:22,974 This was me experiencing death. 426 00:27:23,058 --> 00:27:25,060 Alex, stay with me, Alex. 427 00:27:26,186 --> 00:27:28,104 And it was almost like this checklist was going off 428 00:27:28,188 --> 00:27:30,023 in my head. 429 00:27:30,148 --> 00:27:32,275 I was looking for that feeling of love that they say 430 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,902 that happens to you right before you pass 431 00:27:34,027 --> 00:27:35,445 or you start seeing a light. 432 00:27:35,528 --> 00:27:36,738 Like, I'm literally looking around, 433 00:27:36,863 --> 00:27:38,657 wondering, "OK, where's the light? 434 00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:41,785 Where's that feeling of being content to pass on?" 435 00:27:41,868 --> 00:27:43,161 Stay with me. 436 00:27:43,244 --> 00:27:45,205 I didn't experience any of that. 437 00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:47,457 I felt confusion and fear. 438 00:27:50,001 --> 00:27:53,880 Near-death experiences can be very varied, but one element 439 00:27:54,005 --> 00:27:56,299 of them that seems to be really similar across the board 440 00:27:56,383 --> 00:27:59,177 is that people experience an out-of-body experience. 441 00:28:00,929 --> 00:28:03,139 You are in a liminal space spiritually. 442 00:28:03,223 --> 00:28:05,100 You are kind of Earth-side, but you're also 443 00:28:05,225 --> 00:28:06,434 in a spiritual realm. 444 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:08,728 So it really makes you susceptible and vulnerable 445 00:28:08,853 --> 00:28:10,897 to the spirit realm that is around you. 446 00:28:14,109 --> 00:28:15,860 I wondered if I was finally dead. 447 00:28:18,822 --> 00:28:20,365 I saw this black shadow pass by. 448 00:28:23,993 --> 00:28:26,246 As the resuscitation team's going about their business, 449 00:28:26,329 --> 00:28:29,374 fighting to save Alex's life, she's watching all this happen, 450 00:28:29,457 --> 00:28:31,209 and she's also sensing a presence 451 00:28:31,292 --> 00:28:33,461 that is in the room with them. 452 00:28:33,586 --> 00:28:35,922 Not somebody that works at the hospital. 453 00:28:36,005 --> 00:28:39,134 Something that feels dark and ill-intentioned. 454 00:28:39,259 --> 00:28:41,970 This might offer a clue as to what's about to happen to Alex. 455 00:28:43,763 --> 00:28:47,726 But then it felt like my body calling back to me 456 00:28:47,809 --> 00:28:49,894 or something was saying, "Hey, it's not your time yet. 457 00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:51,271 You need to go back." 458 00:28:55,650 --> 00:28:57,902 Alex. 459 00:29:15,086 --> 00:29:17,213 So after they had done the CAT scan, the MRI, 460 00:29:17,297 --> 00:29:18,715 they took me up to my room. 461 00:29:20,175 --> 00:29:21,217 Can you hear me, Alex? 462 00:29:23,595 --> 00:29:26,264 Two California highway patrolmen came in 463 00:29:26,347 --> 00:29:28,433 to question me about the accident. 464 00:29:31,019 --> 00:29:33,104 Can you just tell us what happened at the overpass? 465 00:29:37,567 --> 00:29:39,903 I started seeing a shadow walking 466 00:29:39,986 --> 00:29:42,071 behind the police officers. 467 00:29:44,282 --> 00:29:46,451 It was dark in my hospital room that night 468 00:29:46,534 --> 00:29:48,912 so I was thinking maybe it could have 469 00:29:48,995 --> 00:29:50,872 been just another person in there. 470 00:29:57,712 --> 00:30:00,131 It was evident, though, that the officers in the room 471 00:30:01,132 --> 00:30:02,967 did not acknowledge this person. 472 00:30:03,092 --> 00:30:06,513 I thought maybe it was just, "OK, you're starting 473 00:30:06,638 --> 00:30:09,140 "to get morphine. It's dark. 474 00:30:10,141 --> 00:30:12,185 "You're tired. You're in pain. 475 00:30:13,728 --> 00:30:15,271 Maybe this is all explainable." 476 00:30:15,355 --> 00:30:16,898 But that wasn't quite the case. 477 00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:20,819 Alex, are you sure? 478 00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:24,364 Police officers are generally very alert 479 00:30:24,489 --> 00:30:26,908 to their surroundings, and it appears that in this case, 480 00:30:26,991 --> 00:30:30,620 the detectives are not aware of the figure walking 481 00:30:30,703 --> 00:30:32,330 back-and-forth behind them. 482 00:30:32,455 --> 00:30:33,957 Is this a clue that we're dealing 483 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,625 with something paranormal? 484 00:30:38,002 --> 00:30:40,421 Hospitals have a great potential to be a hotbed 485 00:30:40,505 --> 00:30:42,465 for spiritual activity, and this is because 486 00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:45,051 there's a lot of life and death that occurs there. 487 00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:48,763 On New Year's Eve in San Diego, 488 00:30:48,847 --> 00:30:50,890 more than ten people may die 489 00:30:51,015 --> 00:30:55,019 in any given hospital on that one night alone. 490 00:30:55,103 --> 00:30:57,897 Could one of these lost souls be the shadow Alex is seeing? 491 00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:11,202 When I was at the hospital, my mom came to visit me. 492 00:31:13,288 --> 00:31:15,999 And one of the things that she wanted to do was she wanted 493 00:31:16,082 --> 00:31:17,625 to brush my hair. 494 00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:21,754 The hairbrush was on my tray, and as she was putting her hand 495 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,673 down to grab it, the hairbrush did 496 00:31:23,756 --> 00:31:25,300 this little hop. 497 00:31:25,383 --> 00:31:26,426 She looked at me. 498 00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:28,219 I looked at her. 499 00:31:28,303 --> 00:31:30,388 She went down to grab the hairbrush again, 500 00:31:30,471 --> 00:31:32,724 and the brush flew off the tray. 501 00:31:36,436 --> 00:31:38,897 There was also a water glass on the tray, too, 502 00:31:39,022 --> 00:31:40,690 and a moment later, 503 00:31:40,773 --> 00:31:43,902 that water glass also went down 504 00:31:44,027 --> 00:31:45,445 and flew off the tray. 505 00:31:47,572 --> 00:31:48,907 And there was water everywhere. 506 00:31:50,241 --> 00:31:51,993 There was no one else around. 507 00:31:52,076 --> 00:31:54,913 There was no explanation as to how this could have happened. 508 00:31:56,664 --> 00:31:59,584 I had started to think that maybe there was something 509 00:31:59,709 --> 00:32:02,128 more paranormal happening, and that was terrifying. 510 00:32:10,803 --> 00:32:12,347 Finally, it was time to go home. 511 00:32:15,892 --> 00:32:18,770 I wasn't able to completely take care of myself, so my mom 512 00:32:18,853 --> 00:32:20,980 became my primary caregiver while I was going 513 00:32:21,105 --> 00:32:22,523 through the rest of my recovery. 514 00:32:25,276 --> 00:32:28,988 I was also looking forward to leaving behind all of the weird 515 00:32:29,113 --> 00:32:31,366 things that had been happening at the hospital. 516 00:32:31,449 --> 00:32:34,118 I felt like I was walking into a new sense of freedom. 517 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,122 At first, everything was peaceful, 518 00:32:39,332 --> 00:32:40,959 but that didn't last too long. 519 00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:49,842 My mom, she had to go back to work because she had missed 520 00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:52,637 so much taking care of me or visiting me in the hospital. 521 00:32:52,762 --> 00:32:53,888 So I was home alone. 522 00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:58,726 I wasn't able to drive. I still wasn't walking. 523 00:32:58,810 --> 00:33:03,272 My mom and I would start having little arguments. 524 00:33:03,356 --> 00:33:05,274 It felt like I was back in high school bickering 525 00:33:05,358 --> 00:33:06,693 with my mother. 526 00:33:11,447 --> 00:33:14,075 It really felt like something was egging me on 527 00:33:14,158 --> 00:33:15,868 or trying to get in my head. 528 00:33:17,829 --> 00:33:19,998 It felt like something was purposely picking on me. 529 00:33:24,460 --> 00:33:26,004 When I got home, I started having 530 00:33:26,129 --> 00:33:27,672 these terrible nightmares. 531 00:33:27,797 --> 00:33:29,882 I didn't want to go to sleep. 532 00:33:32,844 --> 00:33:37,974 I would see this shadow, this man, and he would always 533 00:33:38,057 --> 00:33:40,268 get in my face. He would yell at me. 534 00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:43,855 As the nightmares continued, 535 00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:45,815 I would start seeing more details. 536 00:33:45,898 --> 00:33:47,734 He would get closer. 537 00:33:47,859 --> 00:33:51,529 I was able to see his face, and it was bloody. 538 00:33:51,612 --> 00:33:55,867 I could see parts of his skull and his brain exposed, 539 00:33:55,950 --> 00:33:58,536 and the blood vessels pulsating. 540 00:33:58,619 --> 00:34:02,999 It was horrifying to see. Like, I was terrified. 541 00:34:03,082 --> 00:34:04,709 I didn't know what to think. 542 00:34:04,834 --> 00:34:06,502 Alex. 543 00:34:13,468 --> 00:34:16,220 Alex is starting to experience stuff 544 00:34:16,345 --> 00:34:17,764 in the subconscious level 545 00:34:17,889 --> 00:34:21,392 where she's having dreams and very terrible feelings. 546 00:34:21,476 --> 00:34:25,229 To me, it speaks to the fact that a spirit might have 547 00:34:25,313 --> 00:34:28,232 a personal vendetta against her. 548 00:34:28,316 --> 00:34:30,568 And these nightmares were recurring, so it seemed like 549 00:34:30,651 --> 00:34:33,905 something was happening. And it was terrifying. 550 00:34:33,988 --> 00:34:35,198 It was terrifying. 551 00:34:35,281 --> 00:34:37,742 And I didn't know, like, when I went to sleep that night, 552 00:34:37,825 --> 00:34:39,160 "Am I gonna have another nightmare?" 553 00:34:47,668 --> 00:34:48,920 I was home alone. 554 00:34:51,464 --> 00:34:54,509 I started hearing footsteps, like somebody was going 555 00:34:54,592 --> 00:34:55,885 up and down the stairs. 556 00:35:04,393 --> 00:35:06,604 I feel like I can't breathe. 557 00:35:06,729 --> 00:35:08,106 I feel like I'm in trouble. 558 00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:12,318 There was something in the house with me. 559 00:35:18,533 --> 00:35:19,951 I was trapped. 560 00:35:20,076 --> 00:35:22,161 I was still in a wheelchair at that point, so it's not like 561 00:35:22,286 --> 00:35:23,788 I could get up and run. 562 00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:30,878 I started being in this constant state of panic, 563 00:35:32,213 --> 00:35:33,548 looking over my shoulder. 564 00:35:35,883 --> 00:35:37,426 "Where are you? 565 00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:38,511 Where are you?" 566 00:35:49,689 --> 00:35:51,482 I was with my mother at home. 567 00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:54,694 We were watching TV one evening, just hanging out. 568 00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:58,239 All of a sudden, the house was shaking. 569 00:36:04,328 --> 00:36:06,164 It felt like it could have been an earthquake. 570 00:36:09,375 --> 00:36:11,210 Even though I walk... 571 00:36:11,335 --> 00:36:13,880 My mom actually grabbed her Bible and started 572 00:36:14,005 --> 00:36:16,424 reading Bible verses. - ...shadow of death. 573 00:36:16,507 --> 00:36:18,676 - Mom! - I will fear no evil. 574 00:36:23,764 --> 00:36:26,017 Mom, stop! 575 00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:30,021 I actually was begging my mom, like, "Stop reading out 576 00:36:30,146 --> 00:36:31,689 of the Bible. You're making it worse." 577 00:36:37,778 --> 00:36:40,656 You know, it takes a lot of energy for a spirit to be able 578 00:36:40,740 --> 00:36:43,993 to physically move things, much less shake a house up. 579 00:36:44,076 --> 00:36:47,872 So this says to me that this spirit is a very powerful one 580 00:36:47,955 --> 00:36:51,000 and must have a very specific motive that it's trying 581 00:36:51,083 --> 00:36:52,627 to get across. 582 00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:56,547 I did see it as a continuation of, like, everything that had 583 00:36:56,672 --> 00:37:00,051 happened in the hospital, to now, it was almost like 584 00:37:00,134 --> 00:37:03,471 everything was just building and building and almost like 585 00:37:03,554 --> 00:37:06,724 a balloon filling up with air, and this was the pop. 586 00:37:12,563 --> 00:37:14,023 Later that night, 587 00:37:14,106 --> 00:37:15,316 I finally went to bed. 588 00:37:37,546 --> 00:37:39,548 Why you and not me? 589 00:37:51,143 --> 00:37:53,729 Why you and not me? 590 00:37:55,982 --> 00:37:59,110 He was able to reach me and touch me 591 00:37:59,235 --> 00:38:00,903 and push me down into the bed. 592 00:38:00,987 --> 00:38:02,613 I thought he was going to end my life. 593 00:38:02,738 --> 00:38:04,407 I thought he was gonna kill me. 594 00:38:04,490 --> 00:38:06,200 He was saying, "Why you, not me? 595 00:38:06,284 --> 00:38:07,785 Why you, not me?" 596 00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:10,079 He would also be getting in my face 597 00:38:10,204 --> 00:38:11,664 and he would start lunging at me, 598 00:38:12,873 --> 00:38:14,959 almost like he was trying to choke me. 599 00:38:15,084 --> 00:38:19,005 And the nightmares would escalate so bad that he would 600 00:38:19,088 --> 00:38:21,090 literally have his hands around my neck and he would be 601 00:38:21,173 --> 00:38:23,175 pushing me down into the bed. 602 00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:29,056 Why you and not me? 603 00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:30,224 Ah! 604 00:38:31,684 --> 00:38:34,270 That's when I realized I had seen him before. 605 00:38:34,353 --> 00:38:35,813 I knew who he was. 606 00:38:39,191 --> 00:38:41,319 That was when I realized this was the guy I saw 607 00:38:41,444 --> 00:38:43,195 in the trauma room. 608 00:38:43,279 --> 00:38:44,697 His eyes. 609 00:38:44,780 --> 00:38:47,033 I could see his eyes. 610 00:38:47,116 --> 00:38:51,912 And his eyes just had so much rage and so much anger. 611 00:38:51,996 --> 00:38:56,625 And I could just tell he was robbed of something 612 00:38:56,709 --> 00:38:58,419 and it was my fault. 613 00:38:58,502 --> 00:39:01,380 Like, his death was my fault. 614 00:39:01,464 --> 00:39:02,965 That's what I kept feeling. 615 00:39:08,596 --> 00:39:11,807 And I'm thinking, "Oh, my God, stop it. 616 00:39:11,932 --> 00:39:13,559 Please, please stop it." 617 00:39:16,062 --> 00:39:18,606 My mother had reached out to a friend who was involved 618 00:39:18,689 --> 00:39:20,232 in paranormal stuff. 619 00:39:20,316 --> 00:39:24,278 The friend offered to have someone from her church to come 620 00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:26,322 and check out the situation 621 00:39:26,405 --> 00:39:29,158 and see if there was anything that they could do to help. 622 00:39:31,243 --> 00:39:34,413 When we opened the door, we saw this Greek woman, 623 00:39:34,497 --> 00:39:39,043 she said something in Greek and said, "We're going to do 624 00:39:39,168 --> 00:39:43,172 a little ceremonial ritual to see if this is something 625 00:39:43,297 --> 00:39:44,799 that is attached to you." 626 00:39:46,801 --> 00:39:48,177 She got some olive oil. 627 00:39:49,261 --> 00:39:50,763 She made the sign of the cross on my forehead. 628 00:39:53,140 --> 00:39:57,478 She said, "There was a spirit attached to me who was jealous 629 00:39:57,561 --> 00:40:01,232 of me and angry with me and wanted what I had." 630 00:40:04,527 --> 00:40:10,074 That's when I realized this man was angry at me because 631 00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:12,368 I survived that night 632 00:40:12,451 --> 00:40:14,537 and he did not. 633 00:40:14,662 --> 00:40:16,997 I lived... he died. 634 00:40:20,543 --> 00:40:22,545 And so she ended up 635 00:40:22,628 --> 00:40:24,463 going around the house and blessing it. 636 00:40:26,215 --> 00:40:29,718 Blessing it, saying prayers all over the house. 637 00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:51,740 Amen, amen, amen. 638 00:40:51,866 --> 00:40:53,242 The ritual did work. 639 00:40:53,325 --> 00:40:54,326 It worked. 640 00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:55,536 It worked. 641 00:40:57,538 --> 00:40:58,539 I'm glad he's gone. 642 00:40:59,665 --> 00:41:01,750 In cases like this, spiritual practitioners 643 00:41:01,876 --> 00:41:03,377 are often working blind. 644 00:41:03,461 --> 00:41:05,004 It's a lot like giving a medicine. 645 00:41:05,087 --> 00:41:07,756 You're hoping for a beneficial effect, 646 00:41:07,882 --> 00:41:09,383 but there are no guarantees, 647 00:41:09,467 --> 00:41:11,719 and it's impossible to tell beforehand 648 00:41:11,802 --> 00:41:13,471 what the effect's gonna be. 649 00:41:13,596 --> 00:41:17,975 This woman did a kindness to the spirit by helping him along 650 00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:21,353 on his journey and accepting that he needed to take the next 651 00:41:21,437 --> 00:41:24,440 step on his spiritual journey and keep going and let go 652 00:41:24,565 --> 00:41:27,067 of a vendetta or resentment around his death. 653 00:41:35,326 --> 00:41:36,827 I never saw the man again. 654 00:41:40,998 --> 00:41:44,126 From this whole experience, I learned that there is 655 00:41:44,251 --> 00:41:47,213 something else beyond our physical bodies, 656 00:41:47,296 --> 00:41:51,091 that there is some sort of existence after death. 657 00:41:56,305 --> 00:42:00,142 Then, any grudges or negative feelings you may have, 658 00:42:00,267 --> 00:42:02,228 you could very well take it with you to the grave. 51502

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