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I saw something that I would
never be able to shake.
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There was something
in the house with me.
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I was trapped.
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Even though you can see
the black figure,
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but you can't actually
physically touch it...
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...it was more frightening
than me dying.
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Could this be a former staff
member who spent his entire
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life abusing children
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and is continuing to do this
in the afterlife?
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I don't know if I died.
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Stay with me, Alex.
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But I could see myself
on the table.
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You are kind of Earth-side,
but you're also
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in the spiritual realm, so it
really makes you susceptible
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and vulnerable to the spirit
realm that is around you.
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I thought he was
gonna end my life.
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I thought he was gonna kill me.
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A huge amount of rage is being
directed at Alex Matsuo.
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And we need to figure out why,
if this is to be stopped.
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It watches from afar.
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So it could attack again.
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Ahh!
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I grew up in New York
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in a county called
Rockland County.
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It's 30 miles outside
of Manhattan in New York City.
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We were New Yorkers, but we had
grass and we had a front yard.
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And I lived a middle-class,
suburbia lifestyle.
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That was a typical little
suburban kid riding around
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on my BMX bike,
skateboarding, hanging out
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with my friends,
having a good time.
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Everything's normal.
You know, I'm enjoying myself.
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These are the good times
in my life.
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But I had no idea
it would get worse.
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Tawney Lewis, take one.
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Mark.
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The case of Dedrick Hilton is
one of the most intriguing
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cases that I have
ever researched.
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It has spanned many decades.
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And it started when he was
just seven years old.
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Growing up, it was my mom,
my dad, and my sister,
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and I have an older sister.
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In my bedroom, I shared
a bedroom as a child growing up
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with my sister, and we had
a black-and-white TV,
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because that was our first TV,
and a dresser, and I remember
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a window where I could look
outside and see the apple tree.
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It was just a typical Saturday.
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At the foot of the bed
is where I saw something
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that I would never
be able to shake.
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Something woke me up.
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I woke up to see like some type
of strange smoke occurring,
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like right here.
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It was strangely, like,
moving around.
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I was a curious seven-year-old.
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I also didn't know
what ghosts were
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or what it meant
to be haunted.
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I leaned closer into the smoke,
and I put my finger through it.
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I realized that this cloud
of smoke was beginning
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to form a shape.
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And when I touched it,
it fully took form.
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And that's when I realized,
this is not smoke.
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I could see the eyes, I could
see the shoulder, I could see
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the arms, but I could not see
his mouth or his nose
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or anything else.
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I decided to touch it again.
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It just faded away.
It disappeared.
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As a paranormal researcher,
whenever there is a case that
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involves children, you know,
I really listen to them because
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after you talk to them,
you're like, "You know what,
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"imaginary friend,
or actually, no, this is
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getting kind of creepy."
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Sometimes darker spirits will
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come in as a dark mass
or a dark, heavy mist or fog.
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So that is what Dedrick
encountered, which immediately
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let me know that this was
something darker.
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Being a seven-year-old child
and seeing something like this,
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I was confused about how
to approach my mom and dad
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about it, or even
my older sister.
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I decided to just keep it
to myself because I didn't wanna
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look like I was telling them
a fib or anything.
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Nice.
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All right, I'm going to go
make dinner, OK?
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My mother was on the phone,
like, always, every Saturday,
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and I was playing
with my toys...
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down here.
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And this Saturday, I felt that
same feeling again that I felt
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a year ago,
like something was coming.
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These hands, like, gripped me
tight around my ankle.
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Mom!
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It pulled me out of eyesight
from my mother.
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And I kicked and kicked,
and I broke free.
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And that's when I tore out
of my mother's room.
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So I ran to my mom for help.
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My mother dropped the phone,
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and that's when
she came to my aid.
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Later that night, she told
my father about it.
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He believed my story.
He didn't brush it off.
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I guess I was more alarmed
because of his reaction,
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his reaction of...
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concern and belief.
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I could see it written
all over his face.
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My dad definitely knew
something about this entity.
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In the minds of children,
you know, they feared closets
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or under the bed because
that's where the monsters live.
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And so for someone like Dedrick
to have that trauma just
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instilled in his brain
of this spirit
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dragging him under the bed,
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it's all about the control
aspect of the spirit,
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just trying to show that he can
absolutely manipulate Dedrick.
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It was an attack.
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What it wanted at seven,
I didn't know yet.
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I just knew it came back
aggressive and more violent.
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Because I was only seven
at the time, I had no idea
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that we were living in one
of the most haunted places
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on Earth, the Hudson River
Valley in upstate New York.
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In Rockland County, there was
a mental institution called
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Letchworth Village that was
actually opened in 1911.
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And there was so much abuse,
terrible conditions,
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people dying.
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And then knowing that there was
so many children
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that had perished there.
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And so I wonder, with all
the years, the history of that
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location, could this be
a former staff member who spent
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his entire life abusing
children and is continuing
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to do this in the afterlife?
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I took the incident and placed
it deep down inside,
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and I didn't think
about it anymore.
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I went on with my day-to-day
life, and everything seemed
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like it was going
back to normal.
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So, about a year passed by,
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and that's when this thing
came back again.
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This entity...
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has a certain energy to it.
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It feels like someone's staring
at you in the crowd.
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Hello there.
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What do we have here?
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Fee...
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Fi...
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Fo...
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I've been looking forward
to [indistinct].
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It was far more
angrier and violent.
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I've been looking.
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It was pushing on me
aggressively, trying to pin me
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down, and I was paralyzed.
I couldn't move.
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I could feel it, like it was
trying to push me
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through my mattress.
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This entity was so dark,
like, its body shape.
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This time, I can't see
through it.
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You're just looking deep
into dark black mass.
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Even though you can see
the black figure,
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but you can't actually
physically touch it,
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was more frightening
than me dying.
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I said, "Get the F up off me."
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I could feel it lightening up,
and just like that,
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it was gone.
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When a person
is fighting back a spirit,
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it depends on what
their mindset is.
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So if you have control over
the situation, if you have
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control over what's happening,
the spirit will feel that
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and they will back off.
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Anger and fear are potential
energy sources
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for paranormal activity.
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Between the ages 7 and 18,
I encountered this entity
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on several different occasions.
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And each time it came back
stronger, more aggressive.
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I felt like it was tracking me
at times.
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There's way too many personal
attacks towards Dedrick
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to think that it has
anything to do
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with the mental institution.
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I can't imagine a spirit
from Letchworth Village wanting
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to focus that much on Dedrick,
so it has to be something else.
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I felt like this entity was
trying to weaken me, like it
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didn't want me going forward
somewhere, and it wanted me
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to be weakened where
I become submissive to it.
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That's when I remember
something I heard in my house
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over and over again.
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Growing up, I heard from
my uncles and aunts a whole lot
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about our culture, which is
called Gullah Geechee culture.
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Gullah Geechee
is a group of people.
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It's the oldest group
of Blacks in America.
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We have our own language,
our own folklore,
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our own way of praying,
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and our own way of seeing
the spiritual realm.
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Gullah Geechee is actually
in my lineage,
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on my mother's side.
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The Gullah Geechee people are
descendants from West Africa,
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and they were brought over
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to be enslaved, and they are
very spiritual people.
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Well, in the Gullah culture,
they talk about ghosts often,
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even in the churches.
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And we have this...
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entity we call "the hag."
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It...
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comes into people's homes,
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and they say it could slide
underneath doors.
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It could get in through
cracks, window cracks.
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Entity gets on top of you.
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It has you pinned down,
and the elders call it "riding."
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Similar to a vampire,
but instead of the hag wanting
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your blood, they actually
want your breath,
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because it builds the energy.
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It allows them
to manifest themselves
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to become
bigger and powerful.
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So now I'm wondering,
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you know, is Dedrick
onto something?
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Is this a manifestation
of the hag?
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I really felt like it was
draining me.
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My dad starts explaining to me
more and more about the hag.
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I asked my father,
have you even seen it before?
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And he said he's seen it
one time in our home.
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And that's why I thought,
"All right, well, maybe when
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I go off to college,
this thing will leave me alone."
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And when I turned 19,
that's what I did.
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As soon as I left my home,
that's when all the stuff
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with the hag had stopped.
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I went upstate
in the Catskill Mountains.
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That's roughly about two and
a half hours away from my home.
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I was a typical
college student.
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I'm enjoying my life now.
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You know, I'm meeting
new people.
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Times is great.
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Things are very good for me
in college at this time.
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But it came back again,
far more aggressive,
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far more dark,
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far more vengeful
than it ever did before.
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I'm laying in my bed
and there's a window
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at the foot of my bed
with a forest.
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This time, I saw it coming
from the woods.
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I could feel this energy,
like a force coming.
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And I'm looking at the forest,
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and I'm looking at it,
and I'm like, "What is that?"
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It never left me.
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It was waiting for the perfect
opportunity to attack
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and try to break me down.
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I saw the dark spirit
in the woods.
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It came through the grass,
through the walls,
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into my dorm room.
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I got you.
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I hit the floor.
It's on me.
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It wanted me bad
this time around.
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Matter of fact,
it didn't come back stronger.
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It came back angry.
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I'm in a whole different place.
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And it's here.
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It followed me.
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It's more aggressive.
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Its nails are longer
as it's digging to me.
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It's wrestling with me.
It's pulling me.
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I say, "Get out
my effing room, now!
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Now!"
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I jump up.
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I take off running
through our townhouse.
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I tripped over the first
two steps to get me up
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the staircase to where
my roommates was at.
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They could see that I'm upset.
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They're walking through my room,
they're checking,
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they're checking the bed,
they're checking the window.
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They didn't see anything.
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The whole thing
scared me so bad,
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the next day I couldn't
even function.
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For the next couple of nights,
all I could think of...
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"Please don't come
bother me again."
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Because there's no way
I'll survive round two.
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Not the way it threw me
on the floor.
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No way.
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Dedrick's attempt to fight
back, he's actually
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feeding this spirit.
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This spirit loves the fear.
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That spirit loves it when
he has control over Dedrick,
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and he feels like he's gonna
take control of him
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from now
through the rest of his life.
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When it comes to the hag
theory, I do not think
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that this is what's
after Dedrick.
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The hag is a part
of the Geechee culture,
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which I know is a part
of his life.
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However, this is seen as more
of a female type of spirit,
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whereas what Dedrick is seeing,
the way it's being described,
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is a male.
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What I was dealing with
was something spiritual.
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That was evident.
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And it's following me from
city to city, town to town,
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home to home.
And I'm tired of it.
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Why is this thing following me?
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What does it want from me?
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And why is it coming back
stronger and stronger?
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There are spirits out there
that will track people
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their entire lives.
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And I'm actually shocked with
this particular case because
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I don't think I've seen it yet
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with an African
American person.
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It's very rare.
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So to me,
there's something different.
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There's something deeper here,
to where I'm like, "I really
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"want to uncover who the spirit
is and why does it feel
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so attached to Dedrick."
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I was so desperate, I began
to dig deep into my family past.
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That's when I found out,
back in the 1800s,
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that my great grandfather,
Sam Hendrick, was running
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a successful
turpentine business.
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He was from the Caribbean Isle
of Haiti, so he came over here
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as a free Black, because
Haiti was the first
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free Black country.
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So people were not used to
seeing someone of his stature
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during this era
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maneuvering around freely,
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confident, because
he wasn't a slave.
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He bought 200 acres of land
just about,
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which we still own
to this day.
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And everyone didn't agree with
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him having this property
and this land.
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Dr. Hagen resent the fact
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that this Black family
owned all this land
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and they were working
for themselves.
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And his reputation
was not the greatest.
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He was not just mean
towards Black people,
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but even other races
in the community,
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white people that had
a problem with him, too.
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Dr. Hagen
eventually passed.
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The legend goes that
when they buried him,
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they buried him
in the front yard of his home,
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and some town people came up
and dug up his body
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and scattered his bones
all across the front yard.
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It was hard for him to track
down who threw these bones
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across the yard because many
of the town people hated him.
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Not just the Black American
population, but many
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of the white folks in town
hated him, too.
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Things started to get
a little weird back there
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on this property.
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People claimed they started
seeing images of him
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walking around.
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They could hear his voice deep
in the woods at night.
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I started putting it together,
and I believe these attacks was
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occurring due to Dr. Hagen
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being resentful and angry
at my family
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and my family lineage.
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And now I'm at college
and I was the next in line.
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I am absolutely sure that
this entity is Dr. Hagen.
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In life, Dr. Hagen
was a racist man.
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You know, he did not
want to see
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African Americans prospering.
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This was a family that actually
had their own house,
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their own property.
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It basically was
a personal attack.
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This spirit was trying get
revenge on not just Dedrick,
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but his whole family.
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After the experience
I had in college,
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I start digging deeper
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into other forms
of spirituality.
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And as I got stronger
in my spiritual walking path,
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this entity seems
to keep his distance.
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I feel it present today.
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It never leaves.
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It watches from afar
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for the opportunity
to attack again.
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But I learned how
to handle him,
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or whatever it is
that he's sending.
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I learned how to counter it.
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He has 100% control,
which would explain
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why the spirit has
completely backed off.
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With Dedrick's story, I feel
like it encapsulates
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so much about history,
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the U.S. history, and racism,
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slavery, the Gullah Geechee.
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There are not a lot
of paranormal researchers
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that look like me.
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So to be able to actually talk
about this with someone
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like Dedrick,
you know, it's fascinating.
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I stand tall and
I curse at it in the dark.
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And so far,
that's worked just fine.
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I grew up in San Diego.
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It was the land of perfect
weather and great beaches.
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I was living the dream life.
I was in college.
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I lived next to the beach.
I was doing a show.
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I was a working actor.
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That all came to an end
on New Year's Eve, 2005.
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On the rare occasion,
it was raining in San Diego
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on New Year's Eve,
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and I was on my way to a party.
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In the rain, the road became
extremely slick.
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I was on the freeway ramp
when I lost control of my car.
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I hit the guardrail,
and my car was damaged.
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I got out of the car.
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I see this car coming
towards me.
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The car hits me.
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I roll off the hood, and I fell
25 feet off the freeway ramp.
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Code blue, room 305.
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I do remember them unloading me
out of the ambulance
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and rolling me
into the trauma center.
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I started to fade in and out.
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At that point,
something changed.
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The paranormal world,
there's a dark side to it,
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and it can be terrifying.
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I felt excruciating pain.
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Excruciating pain.
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I had extensive damage
in my internal organs.
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I had vertically sheared
my pelvis.
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I shattered my tailbone,
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and I broke three vertebrae
in my back.
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Erin Goodpipe.
Take one.
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Mark.
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00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,553
The case of Alex Matsuo is
really one that was triggered
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by extreme trauma.
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The paranormal
literature tells us that
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00:26:01,184 --> 00:26:04,312
there is a correlation between
sustaining serious head trauma
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00:26:04,437 --> 00:26:06,648
and a psychic awakening,
if you will,
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00:26:06,773 --> 00:26:09,401
in that mysterious realm
between life and death.
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00:26:10,527 --> 00:26:13,613
Alex Matsuo found herself
in the crosshairs of something
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00:26:13,738 --> 00:26:14,739
from the other side.
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00:26:17,617 --> 00:26:20,287
I remember them rolling me
into the room where they were
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00:26:20,412 --> 00:26:22,289
going to start working on me.
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00:26:22,372 --> 00:26:24,291
Alex, stay with me, Alex.
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00:26:27,794 --> 00:26:31,590
There is somebody on the bed
next to me covered in blood,
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and I hear him screaming.
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And I'm like, "I'm in the same
room as this man."
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Probably means something bad is
going to happen to me, too.
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00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:47,188
In my mind, I was thinking,
"This is it.
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I think I'm going to die."
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All of a sudden,
things just stopped.
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And I don't know, like, it was
an out-of-body experience
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from the trauma, or it was
a hallucination, or my body was
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00:27:02,579 --> 00:27:04,831
so tired of the pain
it checked out.
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00:27:04,956 --> 00:27:06,583
Everything just went quiet.
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00:27:09,502 --> 00:27:11,755
I don't know if I died,
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but I could see myself
on the table.
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I truly believe
that this was passing on.
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This was me experiencing death.
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Alex, stay with me, Alex.
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00:27:26,186 --> 00:27:28,104
And it was almost like
this checklist was going off
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00:27:28,188 --> 00:27:30,023
in my head.
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00:27:30,148 --> 00:27:32,275
I was looking for that feeling
of love that they say
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that happens to you
right before you pass
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00:27:34,027 --> 00:27:35,445
or you start seeing a light.
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Like, I'm literally
looking around,
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00:27:36,863 --> 00:27:38,657
wondering, "OK,
where's the light?
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Where's that feeling of being
content to pass on?"
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Stay with me.
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00:27:43,244 --> 00:27:45,205
I didn't experience
any of that.
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00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:47,457
I felt confusion and fear.
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00:27:50,001 --> 00:27:53,880
Near-death experiences can be
very varied, but one element
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00:27:54,005 --> 00:27:56,299
of them that seems to be really
similar across the board
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is that people experience
an out-of-body experience.
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You are in a liminal
space spiritually.
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00:28:03,223 --> 00:28:05,100
You are kind of Earth-side,
but you're also
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00:28:05,225 --> 00:28:06,434
in a spiritual realm.
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00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:08,728
So it really makes
you susceptible and vulnerable
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00:28:08,853 --> 00:28:10,897
to the spirit realm
that is around you.
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00:28:14,109 --> 00:28:15,860
I wondered
if I was finally dead.
447
00:28:18,822 --> 00:28:20,365
I saw this black shadow
pass by.
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00:28:23,993 --> 00:28:26,246
As the resuscitation team's
going about their business,
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00:28:26,329 --> 00:28:29,374
fighting to save Alex's life,
she's watching all this happen,
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00:28:29,457 --> 00:28:31,209
and she's also
sensing a presence
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00:28:31,292 --> 00:28:33,461
that is in the room with them.
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Not somebody that works
at the hospital.
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Something that feels
dark and ill-intentioned.
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This might offer a clue as to
what's about to happen to Alex.
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00:28:43,763 --> 00:28:47,726
But then it felt like my body
calling back to me
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or something was saying,
"Hey, it's not your time yet.
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00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:51,271
You need to go back."
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00:28:55,650 --> 00:28:57,902
Alex.
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00:29:15,086 --> 00:29:17,213
So after they had done
the CAT scan, the MRI,
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00:29:17,297 --> 00:29:18,715
they took me up
to my room.
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00:29:20,175 --> 00:29:21,217
Can you hear me, Alex?
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00:29:23,595 --> 00:29:26,264
Two California
highway patrolmen came in
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00:29:26,347 --> 00:29:28,433
to question me
about the accident.
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00:29:31,019 --> 00:29:33,104
Can you just tell us
what happened at the overpass?
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00:29:37,567 --> 00:29:39,903
I started seeing
a shadow walking
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00:29:39,986 --> 00:29:42,071
behind the police officers.
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00:29:44,282 --> 00:29:46,451
It was dark in my hospital room
that night
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00:29:46,534 --> 00:29:48,912
so I was thinking
maybe it could have
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00:29:48,995 --> 00:29:50,872
been just another person
in there.
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00:29:57,712 --> 00:30:00,131
It was evident, though,
that the officers in the room
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00:30:01,132 --> 00:30:02,967
did not acknowledge
this person.
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00:30:03,092 --> 00:30:06,513
I thought maybe it was just,
"OK, you're starting
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00:30:06,638 --> 00:30:09,140
"to get morphine.
It's dark.
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00:30:10,141 --> 00:30:12,185
"You're tired.
You're in pain.
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00:30:13,728 --> 00:30:15,271
Maybe this is
all explainable."
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00:30:15,355 --> 00:30:16,898
But that wasn't
quite the case.
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00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:20,819
Alex, are you sure?
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00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:24,364
Police officers are
generally very alert
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00:30:24,489 --> 00:30:26,908
to their surroundings, and
it appears that in this case,
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00:30:26,991 --> 00:30:30,620
the detectives are not
aware of the figure walking
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00:30:30,703 --> 00:30:32,330
back-and-forth behind them.
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00:30:32,455 --> 00:30:33,957
Is this a clue
that we're dealing
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00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,625
with something paranormal?
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00:30:38,002 --> 00:30:40,421
Hospitals have a great
potential to be a hotbed
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00:30:40,505 --> 00:30:42,465
for spiritual activity,
and this is because
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00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:45,051
there's a lot of life and death
that occurs there.
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00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:48,763
On New Year's Eve
in San Diego,
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more than ten people may die
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00:30:51,015 --> 00:30:55,019
in any given hospital
on that one night alone.
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00:30:55,103 --> 00:30:57,897
Could one of these lost souls
be the shadow Alex is seeing?
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00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:11,202
When I was at the hospital,
my mom came to visit me.
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00:31:13,288 --> 00:31:15,999
And one of the things that
she wanted to do was she wanted
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00:31:16,082 --> 00:31:17,625
to brush my hair.
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00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:21,754
The hairbrush was on my tray,
and as she was putting her hand
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00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,673
down to grab it,
the hairbrush did
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00:31:23,756 --> 00:31:25,300
this little hop.
497
00:31:25,383 --> 00:31:26,426
She looked at me.
498
00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:28,219
I looked at her.
499
00:31:28,303 --> 00:31:30,388
She went down to grab
the hairbrush again,
500
00:31:30,471 --> 00:31:32,724
and the brush
flew off the tray.
501
00:31:36,436 --> 00:31:38,897
There was also a water glass
on the tray, too,
502
00:31:39,022 --> 00:31:40,690
and a moment later,
503
00:31:40,773 --> 00:31:43,902
that water glass
also went down
504
00:31:44,027 --> 00:31:45,445
and flew off the tray.
505
00:31:47,572 --> 00:31:48,907
And there was water everywhere.
506
00:31:50,241 --> 00:31:51,993
There was no one else around.
507
00:31:52,076 --> 00:31:54,913
There was no explanation as
to how this could have happened.
508
00:31:56,664 --> 00:31:59,584
I had started to think
that maybe there was something
509
00:31:59,709 --> 00:32:02,128
more paranormal happening,
and that was terrifying.
510
00:32:10,803 --> 00:32:12,347
Finally, it was time
to go home.
511
00:32:15,892 --> 00:32:18,770
I wasn't able to completely
take care of myself, so my mom
512
00:32:18,853 --> 00:32:20,980
became my primary caregiver
while I was going
513
00:32:21,105 --> 00:32:22,523
through the rest
of my recovery.
514
00:32:25,276 --> 00:32:28,988
I was also looking forward to
leaving behind all of the weird
515
00:32:29,113 --> 00:32:31,366
things that had been happening
at the hospital.
516
00:32:31,449 --> 00:32:34,118
I felt like I was walking
into a new sense of freedom.
517
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,122
At first, everything
was peaceful,
518
00:32:39,332 --> 00:32:40,959
but that didn't last too long.
519
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:49,842
My mom, she had to go back
to work because she had missed
520
00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:52,637
so much taking care of me
or visiting me in the hospital.
521
00:32:52,762 --> 00:32:53,888
So I was home alone.
522
00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:58,726
I wasn't able to drive.
I still wasn't walking.
523
00:32:58,810 --> 00:33:03,272
My mom and I would start
having little arguments.
524
00:33:03,356 --> 00:33:05,274
It felt like I was back
in high school bickering
525
00:33:05,358 --> 00:33:06,693
with my mother.
526
00:33:11,447 --> 00:33:14,075
It really felt like something
was egging me on
527
00:33:14,158 --> 00:33:15,868
or trying to get in my head.
528
00:33:17,829 --> 00:33:19,998
It felt like something was
purposely picking on me.
529
00:33:24,460 --> 00:33:26,004
When I got home,
I started having
530
00:33:26,129 --> 00:33:27,672
these terrible nightmares.
531
00:33:27,797 --> 00:33:29,882
I didn't want to go to sleep.
532
00:33:32,844 --> 00:33:37,974
I would see this shadow,
this man, and he would always
533
00:33:38,057 --> 00:33:40,268
get in my face.
He would yell at me.
534
00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:43,855
As the nightmares continued,
535
00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:45,815
I would start seeing
more details.
536
00:33:45,898 --> 00:33:47,734
He would get closer.
537
00:33:47,859 --> 00:33:51,529
I was able to see his face,
and it was bloody.
538
00:33:51,612 --> 00:33:55,867
I could see parts of his skull
and his brain exposed,
539
00:33:55,950 --> 00:33:58,536
and the blood vessels pulsating.
540
00:33:58,619 --> 00:34:02,999
It was horrifying to see.
Like, I was terrified.
541
00:34:03,082 --> 00:34:04,709
I didn't know what to think.
542
00:34:04,834 --> 00:34:06,502
Alex.
543
00:34:13,468 --> 00:34:16,220
Alex is starting
to experience stuff
544
00:34:16,345 --> 00:34:17,764
in the subconscious level
545
00:34:17,889 --> 00:34:21,392
where she's having dreams
and very terrible feelings.
546
00:34:21,476 --> 00:34:25,229
To me, it speaks to the fact
that a spirit might have
547
00:34:25,313 --> 00:34:28,232
a personal vendetta
against her.
548
00:34:28,316 --> 00:34:30,568
And these nightmares were
recurring, so it seemed like
549
00:34:30,651 --> 00:34:33,905
something was happening.
And it was terrifying.
550
00:34:33,988 --> 00:34:35,198
It was terrifying.
551
00:34:35,281 --> 00:34:37,742
And I didn't know, like, when
I went to sleep that night,
552
00:34:37,825 --> 00:34:39,160
"Am I gonna have
another nightmare?"
553
00:34:47,668 --> 00:34:48,920
I was home alone.
554
00:34:51,464 --> 00:34:54,509
I started hearing footsteps,
like somebody was going
555
00:34:54,592 --> 00:34:55,885
up and down the stairs.
556
00:35:04,393 --> 00:35:06,604
I feel like I can't breathe.
557
00:35:06,729 --> 00:35:08,106
I feel like I'm in trouble.
558
00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:12,318
There was something
in the house with me.
559
00:35:18,533 --> 00:35:19,951
I was trapped.
560
00:35:20,076 --> 00:35:22,161
I was still in a wheelchair
at that point, so it's not like
561
00:35:22,286 --> 00:35:23,788
I could get up and run.
562
00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:30,878
I started being in this
constant state of panic,
563
00:35:32,213 --> 00:35:33,548
looking over my shoulder.
564
00:35:35,883 --> 00:35:37,426
"Where are you?
565
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:38,511
Where are you?"
566
00:35:49,689 --> 00:35:51,482
I was with my mother at home.
567
00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:54,694
We were watching TV
one evening, just hanging out.
568
00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:58,239
All of a sudden,
the house was shaking.
569
00:36:04,328 --> 00:36:06,164
It felt like it could
have been an earthquake.
570
00:36:09,375 --> 00:36:11,210
Even though I walk...
571
00:36:11,335 --> 00:36:13,880
My mom actually grabbed
her Bible and started
572
00:36:14,005 --> 00:36:16,424
reading Bible verses.
- ...shadow
of death.
573
00:36:16,507 --> 00:36:18,676
- Mom!
- I will fear
no evil.
574
00:36:23,764 --> 00:36:26,017
Mom, stop!
575
00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:30,021
I actually was begging my mom,
like, "Stop reading out
576
00:36:30,146 --> 00:36:31,689
of the Bible.
You're making it worse."
577
00:36:37,778 --> 00:36:40,656
You know, it takes a lot of
energy for a spirit to be able
578
00:36:40,740 --> 00:36:43,993
to physically move things,
much less shake a house up.
579
00:36:44,076 --> 00:36:47,872
So this says to me that this
spirit is a very powerful one
580
00:36:47,955 --> 00:36:51,000
and must have a very specific
motive that it's trying
581
00:36:51,083 --> 00:36:52,627
to get across.
582
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:56,547
I did see it as a continuation
of, like, everything that had
583
00:36:56,672 --> 00:37:00,051
happened in the hospital,
to now, it was almost like
584
00:37:00,134 --> 00:37:03,471
everything was just building
and building and almost like
585
00:37:03,554 --> 00:37:06,724
a balloon filling up with air,
and this was the pop.
586
00:37:12,563 --> 00:37:14,023
Later that night,
587
00:37:14,106 --> 00:37:15,316
I finally went to bed.
588
00:37:37,546 --> 00:37:39,548
Why you and not me?
589
00:37:51,143 --> 00:37:53,729
Why you and not me?
590
00:37:55,982 --> 00:37:59,110
He was able
to reach me and touch me
591
00:37:59,235 --> 00:38:00,903
and push me down
into the bed.
592
00:38:00,987 --> 00:38:02,613
I thought he was going
to end my life.
593
00:38:02,738 --> 00:38:04,407
I thought he was
gonna kill me.
594
00:38:04,490 --> 00:38:06,200
He was saying,
"Why you, not me?
595
00:38:06,284 --> 00:38:07,785
Why you, not me?"
596
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:10,079
He would also
be getting in my face
597
00:38:10,204 --> 00:38:11,664
and he would start
lunging at me,
598
00:38:12,873 --> 00:38:14,959
almost like he was trying
to choke me.
599
00:38:15,084 --> 00:38:19,005
And the nightmares would
escalate so bad that he would
600
00:38:19,088 --> 00:38:21,090
literally have his hands around
my neck and he would be
601
00:38:21,173 --> 00:38:23,175
pushing me down into the bed.
602
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:29,056
Why you and not me?
603
00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:30,224
Ah!
604
00:38:31,684 --> 00:38:34,270
That's when I realized
I had seen him before.
605
00:38:34,353 --> 00:38:35,813
I knew who he was.
606
00:38:39,191 --> 00:38:41,319
That was when I realized
this was the guy I saw
607
00:38:41,444 --> 00:38:43,195
in the trauma room.
608
00:38:43,279 --> 00:38:44,697
His eyes.
609
00:38:44,780 --> 00:38:47,033
I could see his eyes.
610
00:38:47,116 --> 00:38:51,912
And his eyes just had so much
rage and so much anger.
611
00:38:51,996 --> 00:38:56,625
And I could just tell he was
robbed of something
612
00:38:56,709 --> 00:38:58,419
and it was my fault.
613
00:38:58,502 --> 00:39:01,380
Like, his death was my fault.
614
00:39:01,464 --> 00:39:02,965
That's what I kept feeling.
615
00:39:08,596 --> 00:39:11,807
And I'm thinking,
"Oh, my God, stop it.
616
00:39:11,932 --> 00:39:13,559
Please, please stop it."
617
00:39:16,062 --> 00:39:18,606
My mother had reached out
to a friend who was involved
618
00:39:18,689 --> 00:39:20,232
in paranormal stuff.
619
00:39:20,316 --> 00:39:24,278
The friend offered to have
someone from her church to come
620
00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:26,322
and check out the situation
621
00:39:26,405 --> 00:39:29,158
and see if there was anything
that they could do to help.
622
00:39:31,243 --> 00:39:34,413
When we opened the door,
we saw this Greek woman,
623
00:39:34,497 --> 00:39:39,043
she said something in Greek
and said, "We're going to do
624
00:39:39,168 --> 00:39:43,172
a little ceremonial ritual
to see if this is something
625
00:39:43,297 --> 00:39:44,799
that is attached to you."
626
00:39:46,801 --> 00:39:48,177
She got some olive oil.
627
00:39:49,261 --> 00:39:50,763
She made the sign of the cross
on my forehead.
628
00:39:53,140 --> 00:39:57,478
She said, "There was a spirit
attached to me who was jealous
629
00:39:57,561 --> 00:40:01,232
of me and angry with me
and wanted what I had."
630
00:40:04,527 --> 00:40:10,074
That's when I realized this man
was angry at me because
631
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:12,368
I survived that night
632
00:40:12,451 --> 00:40:14,537
and he did not.
633
00:40:14,662 --> 00:40:16,997
I lived... he died.
634
00:40:20,543 --> 00:40:22,545
And so she ended up
635
00:40:22,628 --> 00:40:24,463
going around the house
and blessing it.
636
00:40:26,215 --> 00:40:29,718
Blessing it, saying prayers
all over the house.
637
00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:51,740
Amen, amen, amen.
638
00:40:51,866 --> 00:40:53,242
The ritual did work.
639
00:40:53,325 --> 00:40:54,326
It worked.
640
00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:55,536
It worked.
641
00:40:57,538 --> 00:40:58,539
I'm glad he's gone.
642
00:40:59,665 --> 00:41:01,750
In cases like this,
spiritual practitioners
643
00:41:01,876 --> 00:41:03,377
are often working blind.
644
00:41:03,461 --> 00:41:05,004
It's a lot like
giving a medicine.
645
00:41:05,087 --> 00:41:07,756
You're hoping
for a beneficial effect,
646
00:41:07,882 --> 00:41:09,383
but there are no guarantees,
647
00:41:09,467 --> 00:41:11,719
and it's impossible
to tell beforehand
648
00:41:11,802 --> 00:41:13,471
what the effect's gonna be.
649
00:41:13,596 --> 00:41:17,975
This woman did a kindness to
the spirit by helping him along
650
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:21,353
on his journey and accepting
that he needed to take the next
651
00:41:21,437 --> 00:41:24,440
step on his spiritual journey
and keep going and let go
652
00:41:24,565 --> 00:41:27,067
of a vendetta or resentment
around his death.
653
00:41:35,326 --> 00:41:36,827
I never saw the man again.
654
00:41:40,998 --> 00:41:44,126
From this whole experience,
I learned that there is
655
00:41:44,251 --> 00:41:47,213
something else beyond
our physical bodies,
656
00:41:47,296 --> 00:41:51,091
that there is some sort
of existence after death.
657
00:41:56,305 --> 00:42:00,142
Then, any grudges or negative
feelings you may have,
658
00:42:00,267 --> 00:42:02,228
you could very well take it
with you to the grave.
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