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I hear she drinks like a fish. 14 00:00:59,275 --> 00:01:01,515 AGATHA LAUGHS 15 00:01:01,515 --> 00:01:03,115 WHISTLE BLOWS 16 00:01:03,115 --> 00:01:05,155 TRAIN TOOTS 17 00:01:05,155 --> 00:01:10,235 Agatha Christie recounted this story in an interview in 1970, 18 00:01:10,235 --> 00:01:12,675 and I love what it tells us about her. 19 00:01:14,115 --> 00:01:16,595 She was stupendously famous, 20 00:01:16,595 --> 00:01:19,995 yet she was able to slip beneath the radar. 21 00:01:19,995 --> 00:01:25,915 They thought that she was a drinker but in fact she was teetotal. 22 00:01:25,915 --> 00:01:29,515 And I think that this story is key to understanding 23 00:01:29,515 --> 00:01:32,955 who Agatha Christie had become in later life. 24 00:01:32,955 --> 00:01:35,435 At the height of her fame and success, 25 00:01:35,435 --> 00:01:40,515 she revelled in being mysterious. 26 00:01:41,515 --> 00:01:46,395 The greatest mystery that Agatha Christie ever created was herself. 27 00:01:49,635 --> 00:01:53,835 I've been fascinated by Agatha Christie since I was a child 28 00:01:53,835 --> 00:01:57,955 and I think there's much more to this enigmatic 29 00:01:57,955 --> 00:02:01,595 and elusive novelist than meets the eye. 30 00:02:01,595 --> 00:02:04,475 She subverts what we think we want 31 00:02:04,475 --> 00:02:07,515 and gives us something so much more interesting. 32 00:02:07,515 --> 00:02:11,875 I'm investigating the mysterious case of Agatha Christie. 33 00:02:11,875 --> 00:02:15,835 How did this woman, who grew up a Victorian, 34 00:02:15,835 --> 00:02:18,515 challenge the expectations of her age? 35 00:02:19,515 --> 00:02:22,115 The doctor, the judge, the general - 36 00:02:22,115 --> 00:02:25,955 these people, they're just not who you think they are. 37 00:02:25,955 --> 00:02:27,635 Let's go. 38 00:02:27,635 --> 00:02:32,795 How did her own dark psychology, her anxieties and experiences, 39 00:02:32,795 --> 00:02:34,715 fuel her writing? 40 00:02:35,755 --> 00:02:40,235 What made this woman the best-selling novelist in the world? 41 00:02:40,235 --> 00:02:44,915 In this series, I want to uncover the true Agatha Christie. 42 00:02:44,915 --> 00:02:48,755 I want to explore how the changes of her lifetime 43 00:02:48,755 --> 00:02:50,995 affected her writing. 44 00:02:50,995 --> 00:02:54,475 And I want to show you that she was a pioneering, 45 00:02:54,475 --> 00:02:57,475 radical writer and woman. 46 00:03:08,235 --> 00:03:12,715 In the spring of 1930, Agatha Christie travelled alone 47 00:03:12,715 --> 00:03:15,355 to visit ancient sites in the Middle East. 48 00:03:20,435 --> 00:03:25,515 Aged 40, she was an internationally successful novelist, 49 00:03:25,515 --> 00:03:30,955 but she was also emerging from a tumultuous few years. 50 00:03:33,435 --> 00:03:38,915 The death of her mother and a divorce from her unfaithful husband 51 00:03:38,915 --> 00:03:43,115 had led to a personal crisis played out in public. 52 00:03:44,675 --> 00:03:48,075 The trip abroad was an escape. 53 00:03:48,075 --> 00:03:53,475 An opportunity to take stock and rebuild far from press intrusion. 54 00:03:53,475 --> 00:03:57,715 She joined a dig being run by a British couple - 55 00:03:57,715 --> 00:03:59,875 Leonard and Katharine Woolley. 56 00:04:03,915 --> 00:04:07,915 Agatha knew that travelling would help her to escape 57 00:04:07,915 --> 00:04:09,835 from her problems at home. 58 00:04:09,835 --> 00:04:14,475 What she didn't know was the completely transformational effect 59 00:04:14,475 --> 00:04:17,395 that the Arab world would have on her life. 60 00:04:18,555 --> 00:04:23,355 Partly this was the culture shock of being a single woman from Devon 61 00:04:23,355 --> 00:04:25,435 in an environment like this. 62 00:04:25,435 --> 00:04:28,715 But on top of that there was the actual activity 63 00:04:28,715 --> 00:04:30,675 the Woolleys were here for. 64 00:04:37,235 --> 00:04:40,435 There was something about an archaeological dig 65 00:04:40,435 --> 00:04:42,515 that lit Agatha's fire. 66 00:04:43,795 --> 00:04:46,435 The Woolleys' dig was in Iraq. 67 00:04:46,435 --> 00:04:52,835 This one in Egypt is led by mother and daughter team Elena Pischikova 68 00:04:52,835 --> 00:04:57,955 and Katherine Blakeney, who've been working here for over 15 years. 69 00:05:02,435 --> 00:05:04,875 Ah, this is your site? Yes. 70 00:05:04,875 --> 00:05:08,115 Hi, Lucy. I'm Elena. Thank you. Thank you. 71 00:05:08,115 --> 00:05:10,435 Thank you for having me. It's lovely to meet you. 72 00:05:10,435 --> 00:05:13,475 May I take a tour? Absolutely. You want to see the tomb? 73 00:05:13,475 --> 00:05:15,915 I do want to see the tomb. Thank you. Follow us. 74 00:05:20,155 --> 00:05:23,475 I've always wondered why Agatha, the crime writer, 75 00:05:23,475 --> 00:05:25,955 was so drawn to archaeology, 76 00:05:25,955 --> 00:05:29,435 and I think I've come to the right place to find out. 77 00:05:30,515 --> 00:05:33,915 I understand that you are Agatha Christie fans. 78 00:05:33,915 --> 00:05:35,955 Am I right? Huge. Huge! 79 00:05:35,955 --> 00:05:37,595 LAUGHTER 80 00:05:37,595 --> 00:05:40,395 What draws you to Agatha? 81 00:05:40,395 --> 00:05:43,035 She's a brilliant writer. Brilliant writer. 82 00:05:43,035 --> 00:05:46,475 And her approach to everything is very archaeological. 83 00:05:46,475 --> 00:05:50,355 She treats every object as an incredible find, actually. 84 00:05:50,355 --> 00:05:55,435 You like Agatha Christie because she treats objects, clues, 85 00:05:55,435 --> 00:05:58,875 things as important in the way that an archaeologist does? Exactly. 86 00:05:58,875 --> 00:06:02,395 Yes, she goes into this really poetic description of a dagger 87 00:06:02,395 --> 00:06:06,195 being discovered and the glint of gold and it's very romantic. 88 00:06:06,195 --> 00:06:09,275 Every person, every clue, 89 00:06:09,275 --> 00:06:12,475 absolutely everything is celebrated by Christie, 90 00:06:12,475 --> 00:06:15,315 and that's what I call an archaeological mind. 91 00:06:15,315 --> 00:06:17,915 And that's what I admire about Christie. 92 00:06:25,435 --> 00:06:29,875 But in the deserts of Iraq, Agatha's passion for archaeology 93 00:06:29,875 --> 00:06:33,675 would offer her more than just literary inspiration. 94 00:06:37,955 --> 00:06:41,435 On one dig with the Woolleys in 1930, 95 00:06:41,435 --> 00:06:45,195 she spotted a curious person. 96 00:06:45,195 --> 00:06:49,475 She described this person as a thin, dark, young man. 97 00:06:49,475 --> 00:06:52,515 He was quite quiet but very perceptive. 98 00:06:52,515 --> 00:06:57,435 Agatha's thin, dark young man was called Max Mallowan. 99 00:07:01,915 --> 00:07:06,635 Max was a 25-year-old archaeologist from England. 100 00:07:07,715 --> 00:07:11,635 Katharine Woolley called Max the perfect assistant. 101 00:07:14,675 --> 00:07:18,155 And now she had the perfect job for him - 102 00:07:18,155 --> 00:07:23,195 chaperoning Agatha around the sites of ancient Mesopotamia. 103 00:07:26,995 --> 00:07:30,435 As they set off on their road trip across the desert, 104 00:07:30,435 --> 00:07:33,275 they must have seemed an odd couple. 105 00:07:33,275 --> 00:07:35,395 The young archaeologist 106 00:07:35,395 --> 00:07:39,195 and the famous novelist 14 years his senior. 107 00:07:49,515 --> 00:07:54,475 But on that trip, they got to know each other and something clicked. 108 00:07:57,235 --> 00:08:01,075 Of course, this wasn't at all a romantic relationship. 109 00:08:01,075 --> 00:08:05,235 There was the age gap and they were so different. 110 00:08:07,035 --> 00:08:09,195 But then, boom, 111 00:08:09,195 --> 00:08:15,395 just months after meeting her, Max asked Agatha to be his wife. 112 00:08:15,395 --> 00:08:17,435 She was thrown into turmoil. 113 00:08:17,435 --> 00:08:19,355 Max was lovely. 114 00:08:19,355 --> 00:08:23,955 She'd been able to relax with him and he was offering her a life 115 00:08:23,955 --> 00:08:28,555 of travel and adventure and his passion for archaeology. 116 00:08:30,155 --> 00:08:33,475 But her demons were never far away. 117 00:08:33,475 --> 00:08:37,115 Her first husband, Archie, had betrayed her, 118 00:08:37,115 --> 00:08:39,395 leading to a painful divorce. 119 00:08:39,395 --> 00:08:41,955 The memories were still raw. 120 00:08:42,995 --> 00:08:46,755 Something of her feelings enters into her writing. 121 00:08:46,755 --> 00:08:49,515 Here's Murder In Mesopotamia. 122 00:08:49,515 --> 00:08:53,995 This book draws heavily on her experience of archaeology 123 00:08:53,995 --> 00:08:55,515 in the Arab world, 124 00:08:55,515 --> 00:08:59,875 but I think she also gives us a glimpse into her own heart. 125 00:08:59,875 --> 00:09:04,475 She has one character, who's lost her husband, say this... 126 00:09:05,355 --> 00:09:07,875 "Lots of people wanted to marry me 127 00:09:07,875 --> 00:09:10,835 "but I always refused. 128 00:09:10,835 --> 00:09:13,675 "I'd had too bad a shock. 129 00:09:13,675 --> 00:09:19,355 "I didn't feel I could ever trust anyone again." 130 00:09:31,155 --> 00:09:34,475 It took Agatha months to make up her mind 131 00:09:34,475 --> 00:09:38,475 but, at last, her feelings for Max won out, 132 00:09:38,475 --> 00:09:43,515 and in September 1930, just six months after they'd met, 133 00:09:43,515 --> 00:09:45,635 they got married. 134 00:09:49,435 --> 00:09:51,835 This is a letter that she wrote to him 135 00:09:51,835 --> 00:09:55,515 on Christmas Eve of that same year. I love this letter. 136 00:09:55,515 --> 00:10:00,275 Christmas Eve had been the date of Agatha's first wedding to Archie, 137 00:10:00,275 --> 00:10:03,875 so the anniversary of that, as she says here, 138 00:10:03,875 --> 00:10:08,555 "It's always been a sad day for me but not this year. 139 00:10:08,555 --> 00:10:14,155 "I feel so happy and safe and loved. 140 00:10:14,155 --> 00:10:17,235 "Bless you, my darling, 141 00:10:17,235 --> 00:10:22,755 "for all that you've done for me and given back to me." 142 00:10:26,195 --> 00:10:31,475 This new-found happiness had a profound effect on Agatha's work 143 00:10:31,475 --> 00:10:35,155 and ushered in a golden age for her writing. 144 00:10:35,155 --> 00:10:38,675 In the next nine years, she would go on to write 145 00:10:38,675 --> 00:10:42,195 an incredible 17 full-length novels. 146 00:10:44,155 --> 00:10:46,475 And in that time, every year, 147 00:10:46,475 --> 00:10:49,635 the happy couple returned to digs abroad. 148 00:11:01,915 --> 00:11:06,035 Agatha and Max's shared passion for archaeology 149 00:11:06,035 --> 00:11:08,635 was never far from her thoughts. 150 00:11:08,635 --> 00:11:12,515 In one book, she even has the great Poirot 151 00:11:12,515 --> 00:11:15,715 refer back to that case he cracked in Mesopotamia 152 00:11:15,715 --> 00:11:18,635 and she has him draw a parallel between the work 153 00:11:18,635 --> 00:11:21,915 of the archaeologist and the work of the detective. 154 00:11:21,915 --> 00:11:24,555 They do the same thing, he says. 155 00:11:24,555 --> 00:11:27,355 "You take away the loose earth, 156 00:11:27,355 --> 00:11:30,195 "you scrape here and there with a knife, 157 00:11:30,195 --> 00:11:34,475 "removing the extraneous matter so that we can see the truth, 158 00:11:34,475 --> 00:11:37,715 "the naked, shining truth." 159 00:11:38,915 --> 00:11:42,395 But this book wasn't set on an archaeological dig. 160 00:11:42,395 --> 00:11:44,955 It wasn't even set in Iraq. 161 00:11:44,955 --> 00:11:48,675 It's the story of a Death On The Nile. 162 00:11:53,755 --> 00:11:58,195 In 1931, Agatha and Max went to Egypt. 163 00:11:58,195 --> 00:12:01,275 They became friends with Howard Carter 164 00:12:01,275 --> 00:12:05,435 and visited the tomb of Tutankhamun he'd discovered. 165 00:12:10,475 --> 00:12:13,835 And they came here to the Temple of Karnak... 166 00:12:16,915 --> 00:12:21,155 ..which Agatha described as one of the great beauties of Egypt. 167 00:12:27,475 --> 00:12:31,915 In the early 1930s, Egypt had become a popular destination 168 00:12:31,915 --> 00:12:33,755 for British travellers. 169 00:12:33,755 --> 00:12:37,915 Tourists like Agatha flocked to the ancient ruins, 170 00:12:37,915 --> 00:12:42,715 which meant Egypt offered her the perfect setting for her new book - 171 00:12:42,715 --> 00:12:46,355 one she knew would resonate with her readers. 172 00:12:47,675 --> 00:12:51,075 In Death On The Nile, Agatha would develop 173 00:12:51,075 --> 00:12:55,275 one of her favourite plot devices - the closed circle. 174 00:12:55,275 --> 00:12:58,755 You know, when she seals all the suspects into a particular place. 175 00:12:58,755 --> 00:13:00,595 It has to be one of them. 176 00:13:00,595 --> 00:13:03,915 She used this way back in her first book, 177 00:13:03,915 --> 00:13:08,155 The Mysterious Affair At Styles, when it had been the country house. 178 00:13:08,155 --> 00:13:12,435 In Murder On The Orient Express, it had been the train. 179 00:13:12,435 --> 00:13:16,835 And now she'd pick a setting that to most of her readers 180 00:13:16,835 --> 00:13:20,475 would have seemed exotic and glamorous. 181 00:13:27,195 --> 00:13:32,155 This time, her closed circle would be a luxurious paddle steamer 182 00:13:32,155 --> 00:13:33,875 on the Nile. 183 00:13:35,915 --> 00:13:40,595 Agatha and Max boarded this very boat in 1933. 184 00:13:41,635 --> 00:13:48,115 The SS Sudan was built in 1885 for Egypt's royal family 185 00:13:48,115 --> 00:13:52,355 and later converted into a cruise ship for wealthy tourists. 186 00:13:53,475 --> 00:13:58,475 On the surface, Death On The Nile is classic Christie. 187 00:13:58,475 --> 00:14:01,915 A rich cast of characters is trapped on the boat 188 00:14:01,915 --> 00:14:03,755 and, when a murder occurs, 189 00:14:03,755 --> 00:14:06,675 Hercule Poirot is on board to solve the case. 190 00:14:07,635 --> 00:14:09,915 But it's more than that. 191 00:14:09,915 --> 00:14:15,555 In this book, Agatha uses her own observations of love, marriage 192 00:14:15,555 --> 00:14:18,755 and betrayal as the engine of the story. 193 00:14:24,955 --> 00:14:28,475 I've been reading the book again and I've noticed it's also got 194 00:14:28,475 --> 00:14:33,395 another one of Agatha's favourite devices in it - the hidden couple. 195 00:14:34,835 --> 00:14:36,515 To explain how this works, 196 00:14:36,515 --> 00:14:38,875 I'm going to have to do a bit of plot spoiling. 197 00:14:38,875 --> 00:14:42,915 The story starts with Jackie and Simon, 198 00:14:42,915 --> 00:14:45,395 who are in love. 199 00:14:45,395 --> 00:14:47,635 But they're very poor. 200 00:14:47,635 --> 00:14:49,475 Jackie has a plan, though. 201 00:14:49,475 --> 00:14:52,715 She asks her friend Linnet, a rich American, 202 00:14:52,715 --> 00:14:54,675 to give Simon a job. 203 00:14:54,675 --> 00:14:56,795 Linnet says, "Absolutely!" 204 00:14:56,795 --> 00:14:59,155 Everything is going very well. 205 00:14:59,155 --> 00:15:01,635 Fast-forward three months... 206 00:15:01,635 --> 00:15:04,195 ..and Simon, the cad, 207 00:15:04,195 --> 00:15:09,475 he leaves Jackie and goes off with rich Linnet instead. 208 00:15:09,475 --> 00:15:13,355 They get married. They go on their honeymoon to Egypt. 209 00:15:13,355 --> 00:15:17,955 But who should turn up like the ghost at the feast? 210 00:15:17,955 --> 00:15:23,195 It's the jilted, troubled Jackie, who follows in their footsteps. 211 00:15:23,195 --> 00:15:26,715 Everywhere they go, she seems to be there, too. 212 00:15:26,715 --> 00:15:29,875 There's definitely going to be trouble. 213 00:15:36,555 --> 00:15:39,195 Linnet asks for Poirot's help 214 00:15:39,195 --> 00:15:43,475 and he agrees to talk to Jackie to tell her to back off. 215 00:15:44,715 --> 00:15:47,635 "Mademoiselle", Poirot says to Jackie. 216 00:15:47,635 --> 00:15:49,595 "I speak as a friend. 217 00:15:49,595 --> 00:15:51,395 "Give up the past. 218 00:15:51,395 --> 00:15:53,235 "Turn to the future. 219 00:15:53,235 --> 00:15:55,075 "What's done is done. 220 00:15:55,075 --> 00:15:58,035 "Bitterness will not undo it. 221 00:15:58,035 --> 00:16:02,115 "You are young, you have brains - the world is before you." 222 00:16:02,115 --> 00:16:06,915 Poirot might almost be talking to... 223 00:16:06,915 --> 00:16:09,195 ..a younger Agatha here 224 00:16:09,195 --> 00:16:13,435 after she'd been betrayed by her first husband, Archie, 225 00:16:13,435 --> 00:16:17,075 and bitterness had entered her heart. 226 00:16:17,075 --> 00:16:19,635 Poirot goes on to say to Jackie... 227 00:16:19,635 --> 00:16:23,715 "Do not open your heart to evil 228 00:16:23,715 --> 00:16:27,915 "because if you do, evil will come." 229 00:16:30,995 --> 00:16:35,075 But, this being Christie, evil is never far away. 230 00:16:35,075 --> 00:16:36,915 GUNSHOT 231 00:16:36,915 --> 00:16:39,955 Linnet is murdered in her sleep. 232 00:16:41,555 --> 00:16:46,915 Jackie is the obvious suspect, but she has a watertight alibi. 233 00:16:46,915 --> 00:16:52,715 So does Simon, Linnet's husband, who stands to inherit her fortune. 234 00:16:53,795 --> 00:16:58,635 Finally, though, Poirot is able to unmask the villain. 235 00:17:03,915 --> 00:17:06,155 Or villains, 236 00:17:06,155 --> 00:17:12,795 because, secretly, Simon and Jackie have been in cahoots all along. 237 00:17:12,795 --> 00:17:15,915 Simon had only pretended to fall in love with Linnet. 238 00:17:15,915 --> 00:17:18,555 He married her so that when she was dead, 239 00:17:18,555 --> 00:17:21,715 he could inherit the money and share it with Jackie. 240 00:17:22,715 --> 00:17:27,475 Agatha is so clever at the way she misdirects us. 241 00:17:27,475 --> 00:17:33,315 She makes us feel sympathy for poor, lonely Jackie, jilted at the altar. 242 00:17:33,315 --> 00:17:35,955 She makes us feel sympathy for Simon, 243 00:17:35,955 --> 00:17:38,675 whose lovely young wife has been killed, 244 00:17:38,675 --> 00:17:43,435 when all along, these two have been the villains. 245 00:17:46,155 --> 00:17:48,395 Death On The Nile has it all - 246 00:17:48,395 --> 00:17:53,275 the glamorous romantic setting, the stunning plot twist. 247 00:17:53,275 --> 00:17:57,435 But I think its success is down to the personal experience 248 00:17:57,435 --> 00:18:01,395 Agatha brings to it, which resonates through the novel. 249 00:18:02,955 --> 00:18:06,875 It's great to think of Agatha walking around that boat, 250 00:18:06,875 --> 00:18:10,435 checking it out, making sure the plot worked. 251 00:18:10,435 --> 00:18:14,955 But on top of that, it's a bit sad to think of her 252 00:18:14,955 --> 00:18:17,235 perhaps thinking about her own past. 253 00:18:17,235 --> 00:18:22,395 That story definitely has the emotional charge that it carries... 254 00:18:23,475 --> 00:18:26,395 ..because of her own experience of betrayal... 255 00:18:27,475 --> 00:18:31,875 ..and of the destructive power of romantic love. 256 00:18:35,955 --> 00:18:41,635 Agatha and Max loved Egypt and Iraq, but they made their home in England. 257 00:18:44,675 --> 00:18:46,475 BELL CHIMES 258 00:18:47,915 --> 00:18:52,955 Its towns and villages shaped so many of her novels. 259 00:18:52,955 --> 00:18:56,675 For Agatha, the county of Devon in particular 260 00:18:56,675 --> 00:18:59,115 exerted a gravitational pull. 261 00:19:00,715 --> 00:19:04,995 Agatha still owned her old family home of Ashfield 262 00:19:04,995 --> 00:19:09,475 but, somehow, going back didn't feel right for her and Max. 263 00:19:09,475 --> 00:19:12,555 It was too bound up in the trauma of her youth, 264 00:19:12,555 --> 00:19:16,795 the death of her father, the family's financial uncertainty 265 00:19:16,795 --> 00:19:19,435 and the oppressive grief of her mother. 266 00:19:21,275 --> 00:19:26,915 But then Agatha became aware of a house for sale on the River Dart. 267 00:19:26,915 --> 00:19:30,595 Here's the advert in Country Life magazine. 268 00:19:30,595 --> 00:19:32,235 It was huge. 269 00:19:32,235 --> 00:19:37,195 It has stabling for seven horses, a billiard room, 270 00:19:37,195 --> 00:19:40,475 ten bedrooms, six more bedrooms for staff, 271 00:19:40,475 --> 00:19:43,435 and it was advertised as being "eminently suitable 272 00:19:43,435 --> 00:19:45,595 "as a first-class hotel." 273 00:19:45,595 --> 00:19:47,435 BELL RINGS 274 00:19:49,915 --> 00:19:52,195 May I come on? Please do. 275 00:19:53,155 --> 00:19:56,715 Thank you. Shall I go down there? Yes, please. Lovely. 276 00:19:59,435 --> 00:20:02,835 It was a sign of the times. 277 00:20:02,835 --> 00:20:05,915 In the interwar years, the English country house 278 00:20:05,915 --> 00:20:10,275 that had dominated so many of Agatha's novels was in decline. 279 00:20:10,275 --> 00:20:16,075 Now they were more likely to become hotels or boarding houses. 280 00:20:16,075 --> 00:20:20,475 Only a best-selling author could afford to buy a house like this 281 00:20:20,475 --> 00:20:22,195 to live in it. 282 00:20:27,235 --> 00:20:32,515 I love the idea of Max and Agatha arriving here at Greenway 283 00:20:32,515 --> 00:20:36,715 for the first time, getting their first glimpse of the house. 284 00:20:39,195 --> 00:20:43,715 In the end, it was Max who said, "Why don't you buy it?" 285 00:20:43,715 --> 00:20:48,355 Agatha knew that to do that she'd have to sell Ashfield. 286 00:20:48,355 --> 00:20:53,115 But do you know what? She didn't need Ashfield any more. 287 00:20:53,115 --> 00:20:56,515 Now she was happily married, she could let go of the past, 288 00:20:56,515 --> 00:21:01,515 she could embrace the future, so she got out her chequebook. 289 00:21:11,955 --> 00:21:16,435 Agatha and Max were putting down their own roots in Devon 290 00:21:16,435 --> 00:21:20,475 and Agatha's writing that year was directly inspired 291 00:21:20,475 --> 00:21:23,115 by the landscape that surrounded them. 292 00:21:27,955 --> 00:21:31,435 In 1938, the year Agatha bought Greenway, 293 00:21:31,435 --> 00:21:35,915 she wrote a new story set on an island 294 00:21:35,915 --> 00:21:40,475 and the island was crowned with a beautiful white house, she wrote. 295 00:21:40,475 --> 00:21:43,635 Now, this story is clearly set in Devon. 296 00:21:43,635 --> 00:21:45,915 Plymouth is mentioned, so is Exeter. 297 00:21:45,915 --> 00:21:49,915 But could the island itself be a real place, too? 298 00:21:49,915 --> 00:21:51,755 Well, here's a clue. 299 00:21:51,755 --> 00:21:55,395 That same year, she wrote another story set on an island. 300 00:21:55,395 --> 00:21:58,475 This is her notebook, where she was planning it all out, 301 00:21:58,475 --> 00:22:00,075 and she's written here, 302 00:22:00,075 --> 00:22:03,955 "Scene - hotel on island, Bigbury." 303 00:22:03,955 --> 00:22:06,915 Now, Bigbury is definitely a real place. 304 00:22:06,915 --> 00:22:10,235 It's only 20 miles away from here. 305 00:22:10,235 --> 00:22:11,675 There it is. 306 00:22:11,675 --> 00:22:13,915 And guess what? 307 00:22:13,915 --> 00:22:16,435 Right by Bigbury, 308 00:22:16,435 --> 00:22:18,435 yes, there is an island. 309 00:22:23,235 --> 00:22:28,275 Agatha had stayed at Burgh Island Hotel in the 1930s. 310 00:22:29,955 --> 00:22:34,195 At high tide, the sea cuts it off from the mainland. 311 00:22:36,595 --> 00:22:38,675 ENGINE STARTS 312 00:22:38,675 --> 00:22:42,355 The only way across is by sea tractor. 313 00:22:48,835 --> 00:22:51,075 That's it. We're in the water now. 314 00:22:54,475 --> 00:22:58,395 Its unique location would spark Agatha's imagination. 315 00:23:11,755 --> 00:23:14,435 We've crossed the sea and we've arrived 316 00:23:14,435 --> 00:23:17,795 at this mysterious, isolated island. 317 00:23:49,955 --> 00:23:54,835 Just as in Agatha's day, Burgh Island is fun and glamorous. 318 00:24:04,795 --> 00:24:07,875 But one of her most famous books made this setting 319 00:24:07,875 --> 00:24:12,115 a much more disturbing and menacing place. 320 00:24:17,475 --> 00:24:20,435 A group of strangers, they don't know each other, 321 00:24:20,435 --> 00:24:23,075 have been brought to an island. 322 00:24:23,075 --> 00:24:27,955 They've been invited to stay in a mysterious private house 323 00:24:27,955 --> 00:24:31,275 with a mysterious owner who isn't even there. 324 00:24:31,275 --> 00:24:34,875 And in Agatha's version of Burgh Island, 325 00:24:34,875 --> 00:24:38,515 there's no sea tractor, there's no causeway, 326 00:24:38,515 --> 00:24:40,675 there's no way of getting off the island. 327 00:24:40,675 --> 00:24:42,995 There's just the treacherous sea. 328 00:24:44,435 --> 00:24:48,275 It's the classic Christie closed circle. 329 00:24:48,275 --> 00:24:50,915 But this time there's no Poirot. 330 00:24:50,915 --> 00:24:55,715 There's nobody on the island at all who represents the force of good. 331 00:24:56,915 --> 00:24:59,275 Be very afraid. 332 00:25:09,715 --> 00:25:13,875 As the story unfolds, each of the ten guests dies. 333 00:25:15,515 --> 00:25:18,395 And then there were none, as the title goes. 334 00:25:22,635 --> 00:25:25,915 Except that wasn't the original title. 335 00:25:25,915 --> 00:25:28,715 When the book was first published in Britain, 336 00:25:28,715 --> 00:25:34,155 the title notoriously contained a racial slur - the N-word. 337 00:25:35,595 --> 00:25:37,755 Obviously, this is utterly offensive. 338 00:25:37,755 --> 00:25:41,515 Why would anyone want to read this book today? 339 00:25:43,115 --> 00:25:46,955 The offensive title came from a nursery rhyme. 340 00:25:46,955 --> 00:25:49,915 It was also found in blackface minstrel acts - 341 00:25:49,915 --> 00:25:52,075 racist theatrical performances. 342 00:25:53,475 --> 00:25:57,595 Frankie Bailey has studied race and crime fiction. 343 00:25:57,595 --> 00:25:59,955 What would you say if I asked you 344 00:25:59,955 --> 00:26:03,035 if you liked and admired Agatha Christie? 345 00:26:03,035 --> 00:26:05,955 I admire her as a writer. 346 00:26:05,955 --> 00:26:09,715 She's a master of that three act construction. 347 00:26:09,715 --> 00:26:14,155 She's very efficient in terms of how she goes through the book, 348 00:26:14,155 --> 00:26:16,035 building the suspense, 349 00:26:16,035 --> 00:26:19,075 alerting the reader that something bad is going to happen 350 00:26:19,075 --> 00:26:21,035 but you don't know quite when. 351 00:26:21,035 --> 00:26:23,955 And in this case, she's telling us that they're going to die 352 00:26:23,955 --> 00:26:26,155 one at a time, as in a serial killer movie. 353 00:26:26,155 --> 00:26:28,435 She's the queen of suspense in that respect. 354 00:26:28,435 --> 00:26:33,675 I think she does that as well as, or even better in some cases, 355 00:26:33,675 --> 00:26:37,155 as Alfred Hitchcock, who is my favourite director of all time. 356 00:26:37,155 --> 00:26:40,755 The offensive title wasn't on the front cover 357 00:26:40,755 --> 00:26:43,835 of the first American edition, was it? No. 358 00:26:43,835 --> 00:26:48,475 Which is interesting because we get the same nursery rhymes 359 00:26:48,475 --> 00:26:52,995 but I think by 1939, we've got Roosevelt in the White House, 360 00:26:52,995 --> 00:26:54,995 things are beginning to improve 361 00:26:54,995 --> 00:26:57,115 and you don't want to put that out there. 362 00:26:57,115 --> 00:27:00,115 If you offend people and have people boycotting your book, 363 00:27:00,115 --> 00:27:02,195 then it's not going to do well. Yeah. 364 00:27:02,195 --> 00:27:04,395 So the publishers in America thought, 365 00:27:04,395 --> 00:27:06,475 "This racial slur will not sell here." 366 00:27:06,475 --> 00:27:08,835 It was unnecessary to what they wanted to do. 367 00:27:10,675 --> 00:27:16,155 In the USA, another title was used for the book and a film adaptation. 368 00:27:16,155 --> 00:27:20,435 It was also a racial slur - against Native Americans. 369 00:27:21,915 --> 00:27:25,515 Meanwhile, almost unbelievably, in Britain, 370 00:27:25,515 --> 00:27:29,955 the N-word title was still in use until 1986. 371 00:27:29,955 --> 00:27:34,195 Now, some people would say that this kind of offensive title 372 00:27:34,195 --> 00:27:37,275 is typical of her class and time. 373 00:27:37,275 --> 00:27:41,355 But that's not a get out of jail free card, is it? No, it's not. 374 00:27:41,355 --> 00:27:42,955 It is disappointing. 375 00:27:42,955 --> 00:27:46,115 But Agatha Christie is a woman coming out 376 00:27:46,115 --> 00:27:48,195 of that colonial background. 377 00:27:48,195 --> 00:27:51,475 She's well read, well educated, 378 00:27:51,475 --> 00:27:54,355 and she's coming out of a fairly elite class. 379 00:27:54,355 --> 00:27:59,195 She's not writing to change the narrative, 380 00:27:59,195 --> 00:28:02,475 she's writing so that she's ready for that white audience, 381 00:28:02,475 --> 00:28:04,875 that white European, white American audience, 382 00:28:04,875 --> 00:28:10,555 and she is picking up where they are and not advancing that discussion. 383 00:28:10,555 --> 00:28:13,955 Which is why, as a historian, I think we have to look at this stuff 384 00:28:13,955 --> 00:28:17,715 and appreciate that it was there and to understand how potent it was. 385 00:28:17,715 --> 00:28:20,955 Exactly. We need to understand it in context, 386 00:28:20,955 --> 00:28:24,195 knowing that Agatha Christie was not alone 387 00:28:24,195 --> 00:28:25,955 in terms of what she was doing. 388 00:28:25,955 --> 00:28:30,475 Writers in the United States and elsewhere, here in England, 389 00:28:30,475 --> 00:28:34,955 everyone was writing in this vein and using this kind of language. 390 00:28:34,955 --> 00:28:36,515 That's interesting. 391 00:28:36,515 --> 00:28:40,155 You find it possible to say she's a good writer, 392 00:28:40,155 --> 00:28:43,155 there are some things that aren't acceptable that she wrote? 393 00:28:43,155 --> 00:28:45,595 Because if I rule her out, I would be ruling out 394 00:28:45,595 --> 00:28:47,755 a lot of other writers during that period. 395 00:28:47,755 --> 00:28:50,595 There are things you can learn from reading those writers. 396 00:28:50,595 --> 00:28:54,595 Frankie, you're saying this is complicated. It is complicated. 397 00:28:54,595 --> 00:28:58,515 We can't just put people into these boxes of good and bad. Right. 398 00:29:10,675 --> 00:29:14,875 And Then There Were None is said to be the best-selling mystery novel 399 00:29:14,875 --> 00:29:16,875 of all time. 400 00:29:17,915 --> 00:29:20,955 And it was published just weeks after Agatha and Max 401 00:29:20,955 --> 00:29:26,115 heard an announcement on the radio in the kitchen at Greenway. 402 00:29:27,755 --> 00:29:30,235 NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN: I have to tell you now, 403 00:29:30,235 --> 00:29:33,475 this country is at war with Germany. 404 00:29:37,915 --> 00:29:41,435 Having survived one world war, the prospect of another one 405 00:29:41,435 --> 00:29:43,435 must have appalled Agatha, 406 00:29:43,435 --> 00:29:47,755 and it threatened to upend her new-found security. 407 00:29:47,755 --> 00:29:52,755 In September 1940, the blitz on British cities began. 408 00:29:55,795 --> 00:29:59,475 Children were being evacuated from places like London 409 00:29:59,475 --> 00:30:01,515 to the safety of the countryside, 410 00:30:01,515 --> 00:30:05,155 but Agatha was going in the opposite direction. 411 00:30:05,155 --> 00:30:10,795 She even rented out her Devon house, Greenway, to be a home for evacuees. 412 00:30:10,795 --> 00:30:14,395 And the reason she came here to Blitz London 413 00:30:14,395 --> 00:30:17,395 was to be with her beloved Max. 414 00:30:22,955 --> 00:30:25,475 With his archaeological career on hold, 415 00:30:25,475 --> 00:30:28,915 Max had taken a desk job with the RAF. 416 00:30:32,715 --> 00:30:37,835 And in March 1941, seven months into the Blitz, 417 00:30:37,835 --> 00:30:40,715 which killed almost 20,000 people in London, 418 00:30:40,715 --> 00:30:45,395 Agatha moved with Max to this ultra modernist block of flats 419 00:30:45,395 --> 00:30:47,115 in Hampstead. 420 00:30:50,875 --> 00:30:54,915 These were dangerous times and this was a dangerous street. 421 00:30:54,915 --> 00:30:58,635 Before Agatha moved in, a bomb blew out the glass 422 00:30:58,635 --> 00:31:00,755 of all the windows of this building. 423 00:31:00,755 --> 00:31:05,875 And over the eight months following, 38 bombs fell on this neighbourhood. 424 00:31:06,955 --> 00:31:11,915 But Agatha herself wasn't particularly fazed by this. 425 00:31:11,915 --> 00:31:15,435 She tells us that she never bothered to go down to the shelter, 426 00:31:15,435 --> 00:31:20,435 and if she was woken in the night by the sound of bombs falling, 427 00:31:20,435 --> 00:31:24,515 she'd just say to herself, "Oh, dear, there they are again," 428 00:31:24,515 --> 00:31:27,915 and she'd turn over and she'd go back to sleep. 429 00:31:35,155 --> 00:31:39,595 Was this genuine calm in the face of mortal peril 430 00:31:39,595 --> 00:31:43,475 or a reflection of Agatha's state of mind? 431 00:31:43,475 --> 00:31:48,635 The bombs might not have bothered Agatha, but something else was up. 432 00:31:48,635 --> 00:31:54,435 In February 1942, Max volunteered for a job in Cairo. 433 00:31:54,435 --> 00:31:58,915 He was going back to Egypt, where they'd been so happy together, 434 00:31:58,915 --> 00:32:01,435 but this time he was going alone. 435 00:32:03,675 --> 00:32:07,435 These are letters Agatha wrote to Max 436 00:32:07,435 --> 00:32:11,675 and I think they show evidence of... 437 00:32:11,675 --> 00:32:15,435 ..deteriorating mental health. 438 00:32:15,435 --> 00:32:19,715 She has dreams that he's abandoned her. 439 00:32:19,715 --> 00:32:21,235 Listen to this. 440 00:32:21,235 --> 00:32:26,115 "They told me you no longer cared or wanted me and had gone away. 441 00:32:26,115 --> 00:32:28,475 "I woke up in a panic." 442 00:32:28,475 --> 00:32:33,635 And then, again, "I feel so afraid sometimes. 443 00:32:33,635 --> 00:32:40,355 "Write often because I need cheering when there are no sunny days." 444 00:32:41,355 --> 00:32:44,595 Now, Agatha had come to London to be with Max 445 00:32:44,595 --> 00:32:47,435 but he'd gone off to North Africa. 446 00:32:47,435 --> 00:32:50,435 He was living there in a sunny climate 447 00:32:50,435 --> 00:32:53,435 with lots of other British people serving in the Forces, 448 00:32:53,435 --> 00:32:55,635 all of them away from their families, 449 00:32:55,635 --> 00:32:57,995 some of them women his own age. 450 00:32:57,995 --> 00:33:03,515 If Agatha still had any insecurities about being older 451 00:33:03,515 --> 00:33:06,395 or about what had happened in her first marriage, 452 00:33:06,395 --> 00:33:09,395 they must have come flooding back. 453 00:33:11,835 --> 00:33:14,115 Lonely and jealous, 454 00:33:14,115 --> 00:33:17,715 the clouds of her past turmoil were gathering again, 455 00:33:17,715 --> 00:33:21,795 so to keep them at bay, Agatha poured herself into her work. 456 00:33:23,195 --> 00:33:26,435 In the war years, she wrote 16 novels, 457 00:33:26,435 --> 00:33:30,675 seven collections of short stories and a play. 458 00:33:33,555 --> 00:33:36,955 Agatha tells us that she wrote one of these wartime books 459 00:33:36,955 --> 00:33:39,235 in just three days. 460 00:33:39,235 --> 00:33:42,475 She describes producing it in a white heat. 461 00:33:42,475 --> 00:33:45,155 She didn't dare leave it and go and do anything else. 462 00:33:45,155 --> 00:33:49,395 She says, "I had to go on with the book until I'd finished it." 463 00:33:49,395 --> 00:33:52,675 When she finally got to the end, she collapsed. 464 00:33:52,675 --> 00:33:55,075 She slept for 24 hours. 465 00:33:56,515 --> 00:34:00,715 And she later said that this book was the one book 466 00:34:00,715 --> 00:34:02,835 that had satisfied her completely. 467 00:34:02,835 --> 00:34:07,155 She called it the book she'd always wanted to write. 468 00:34:10,435 --> 00:34:12,755 It wasn't a detective novel at all 469 00:34:12,755 --> 00:34:16,115 and it didn't even have Agatha's name on the cover. 470 00:34:16,115 --> 00:34:19,875 Written under her pseudonym Mary Westmacott, 471 00:34:19,875 --> 00:34:23,115 Absent In The Spring is in part about a woman 472 00:34:23,115 --> 00:34:26,435 who comes to realise that her marriage is a lie, 473 00:34:26,435 --> 00:34:29,435 that her husband loves another woman. 474 00:34:30,675 --> 00:34:34,955 " 'Rodney and I have been perfectly contented with one another.' 475 00:34:34,955 --> 00:34:38,475 " 'Of course, you always were as cold as a fish, Joan. 476 00:34:38,475 --> 00:34:40,875 " 'But I should have said that husband of yours 477 00:34:40,875 --> 00:34:42,635 " 'had quite a roving eye.' 478 00:34:42,635 --> 00:34:46,675 " 'Really, Blanche?' Joan flushed angrily. 479 00:34:46,675 --> 00:34:49,715 " 'A roving eye, indeed? Rodney?' 480 00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:53,355 "And suddenly, discordantly, 481 00:34:53,355 --> 00:34:57,035 "a thought slipped and flashed sideways 482 00:34:57,035 --> 00:34:59,395 "across the panorama of Joan's mind." 483 00:35:01,715 --> 00:35:06,195 In 1943, no-one knew that Mary Westmacott 484 00:35:06,195 --> 00:35:08,275 was really Agatha Christie. 485 00:35:08,275 --> 00:35:12,915 And I think Agatha was revelling in the freedom 486 00:35:12,915 --> 00:35:16,675 this gave her, the freedom to be off brand. 487 00:35:16,675 --> 00:35:21,195 These Westmacott books really are her most personal, 488 00:35:21,195 --> 00:35:23,155 her most intense works. 489 00:35:24,475 --> 00:35:28,755 I believe that when she'd started to write them years earlier, 490 00:35:28,755 --> 00:35:33,395 it had almost been under doctor's orders, as a kind of therapy, 491 00:35:33,395 --> 00:35:37,075 because she'd been struggling with her mental health. 492 00:35:37,075 --> 00:35:39,275 And by the time we get to the war, 493 00:35:39,275 --> 00:35:41,955 I think that was happening once again. 494 00:35:41,955 --> 00:35:46,395 Max was away, she was lacking support, 495 00:35:46,395 --> 00:35:48,915 she was in a bad place emotionally. 496 00:35:50,675 --> 00:35:53,915 But when she was being Mary Westmacott, 497 00:35:53,915 --> 00:35:56,755 she was writing herself better. 498 00:36:02,235 --> 00:36:06,115 In the war years, a gloomy Agatha wrote another book - 499 00:36:06,115 --> 00:36:09,675 Curtain: Poirot's Last Case. 500 00:36:10,995 --> 00:36:14,915 But instead of publishing it, she locked it away. 501 00:36:14,915 --> 00:36:19,475 It would provide money for her family in case, as she said, 502 00:36:19,475 --> 00:36:21,515 she was killed in the raids. 503 00:36:22,555 --> 00:36:24,995 But I don't think this was just about Agatha 504 00:36:24,995 --> 00:36:27,075 and herself and her family. 505 00:36:27,075 --> 00:36:30,795 I think she also wanted Poirot, 506 00:36:30,795 --> 00:36:33,115 the character who had made her famous, 507 00:36:33,115 --> 00:36:36,995 to have a perfectly orchestrated final bow, 508 00:36:36,995 --> 00:36:42,355 even if it might take place after she herself had left the stage. 509 00:36:43,875 --> 00:36:48,915 But Agatha wasn't planning on leaving the stage any time soon. 510 00:36:48,915 --> 00:36:50,475 Far from it. 511 00:36:50,475 --> 00:36:54,475 In fact, inveterate observer that she was, 512 00:36:54,475 --> 00:36:59,155 Agatha was instead on the lookout for writing inspiration, 513 00:36:59,155 --> 00:37:02,395 and she found it in the darkest of places. 514 00:37:12,715 --> 00:37:15,195 In the summer of 1944, 515 00:37:15,195 --> 00:37:19,475 three brothers from South Wales were taken to Shropshire. 516 00:37:19,475 --> 00:37:23,075 Their parents had been deemed unfit to look after them, 517 00:37:23,075 --> 00:37:24,915 so they'd be fostered. 518 00:37:26,955 --> 00:37:32,835 Dennis O'Neill was 12, Terence was nine, and Freddie was seven. 519 00:37:34,115 --> 00:37:37,715 The two older boys were taken in by a couple called the Goughs, 520 00:37:37,715 --> 00:37:40,355 who lived in a remote farmhouse. 521 00:37:42,875 --> 00:37:45,835 The farm was in rolling countryside. 522 00:37:45,835 --> 00:37:48,915 There were chickens and cows and a vegetable garden. 523 00:37:48,915 --> 00:37:53,195 When Terence arrived, Mrs Gough gave him a kiss and said, 524 00:37:53,195 --> 00:37:57,435 "Welcome to Bank Farm. You'll be very happy here." 525 00:37:58,475 --> 00:38:02,115 A little while afterwards, the boys had to write an essay at school 526 00:38:02,115 --> 00:38:03,955 about their parents. 527 00:38:03,955 --> 00:38:06,395 This is what Terence wrote. 528 00:38:06,395 --> 00:38:10,635 "My mother is very good and kind to me, 529 00:38:10,635 --> 00:38:12,675 "she buys me new clothes, 530 00:38:12,675 --> 00:38:16,315 "she gives me lots to eat and lots of cake." 531 00:38:17,435 --> 00:38:22,195 Later, Terence revealed that this was all a fantasy. 532 00:38:23,235 --> 00:38:25,635 As he says here, "I knew instinctively 533 00:38:25,635 --> 00:38:29,515 "that I would be in huge trouble if I told the truth 534 00:38:29,515 --> 00:38:32,195 "about the way the Goughs were treating us. 535 00:38:32,195 --> 00:38:36,435 "The lack of food, the scratchy straw mattress, 536 00:38:36,435 --> 00:38:40,475 "the heavy workload and the stripes." 537 00:38:40,475 --> 00:38:45,635 That's the wounds they got from the beatings every night. 538 00:38:50,875 --> 00:38:55,915 The awful truth was that the O'Neill brothers were horribly abused 539 00:38:55,915 --> 00:38:58,955 by the people who should have cared for them. 540 00:38:58,955 --> 00:39:03,035 They were starved and beaten until the inevitable happened. 541 00:39:14,115 --> 00:39:18,675 This is a newspaper report from 1945 542 00:39:18,675 --> 00:39:22,915 about the investigation following the death of Dennis O'Neill. 543 00:39:25,115 --> 00:39:30,675 "The doctor who examined the body says that the cause of death 544 00:39:30,675 --> 00:39:32,755 "was heart failure 545 00:39:32,755 --> 00:39:37,595 "following violence applied to the front of the chest." 546 00:39:37,595 --> 00:39:39,195 It's really horrible. 547 00:39:40,275 --> 00:39:45,515 "And the violence was consistent with having been caused 548 00:39:45,515 --> 00:39:47,635 "by a man's fist." 549 00:39:48,675 --> 00:39:50,915 That man was Reginald Gough. 550 00:39:50,915 --> 00:39:53,635 He was Dennis's foster father. 551 00:39:55,835 --> 00:39:57,675 Gough was arrested... 552 00:39:58,715 --> 00:40:03,915 ..and Terence O'Neill had to watch a policeman 553 00:40:03,915 --> 00:40:06,195 bringing something down the stairs. 554 00:40:06,195 --> 00:40:11,075 The something was the body of his dead brother. 555 00:40:17,675 --> 00:40:20,955 One of the many people reading about this case in the papers 556 00:40:20,955 --> 00:40:22,795 was Agatha Christie. 557 00:40:22,795 --> 00:40:27,395 Years later, she wrote, "There was a case once where children 558 00:40:27,395 --> 00:40:30,155 "had been neglected and abused 559 00:40:30,155 --> 00:40:33,315 "after they had been placed by the council on a farm. 560 00:40:33,315 --> 00:40:37,475 "One child did die and there had been a feeling 561 00:40:37,475 --> 00:40:40,435 "that a slightly delinquent boy might grow up 562 00:40:40,435 --> 00:40:43,955 "full of the desire for revenge." 563 00:40:43,955 --> 00:40:48,755 The O'Neill case gave Agatha the germ of an idea 564 00:40:48,755 --> 00:40:52,475 that she used for a 30-minute radio play 565 00:40:52,475 --> 00:40:55,715 called Three Blind Mice. 566 00:40:55,715 --> 00:40:59,235 Here's the notebook where she's working on the idea, 567 00:40:59,235 --> 00:41:01,995 and she's done the title as a pictogram. 568 00:41:01,995 --> 00:41:05,715 Three, blind - that's an eye crossed out - 569 00:41:05,715 --> 00:41:08,915 and then a cute little mouse. 570 00:41:08,915 --> 00:41:14,675 But she couldn't use that title when she expanded the radio play 571 00:41:14,675 --> 00:41:18,515 into a full-length stage play. 572 00:41:18,515 --> 00:41:21,635 There was already a play with that title. 573 00:41:21,635 --> 00:41:23,315 She was stumped. 574 00:41:23,315 --> 00:41:26,235 She just couldn't think of an idea for what to call it 575 00:41:26,235 --> 00:41:31,315 until somebody came up with a stroke of genius. 576 00:41:31,315 --> 00:41:34,635 It was to be called The Mousetrap. 577 00:41:34,635 --> 00:41:36,995 APPLAUSE 578 00:41:46,475 --> 00:41:49,635 On the surface, the play Agatha developed 579 00:41:49,635 --> 00:41:52,235 is a classic Christie whodunnit. 580 00:41:52,235 --> 00:41:54,275 WHOOSHING 581 00:41:54,275 --> 00:41:59,195 A group of unconnected strangers arrive at a guesthouse. 582 00:42:02,675 --> 00:42:05,875 They become trapped there by bad weather. 583 00:42:07,435 --> 00:42:09,915 It's another closed circle. 584 00:42:11,755 --> 00:42:16,915 But soon, Agatha will weave the O'Neill tragedy into the drama. 585 00:42:19,915 --> 00:42:23,515 The play begins in quite a light-hearted way. 586 00:42:23,515 --> 00:42:27,435 But Agatha is so good at light and shade, 587 00:42:27,435 --> 00:42:29,995 things soon turn dark. 588 00:42:29,995 --> 00:42:32,235 There's been a murder. 589 00:42:32,235 --> 00:42:35,715 A policeman arrives at the house to follow up a lead 590 00:42:35,715 --> 00:42:38,955 and he tells everybody that the victim was a woman 591 00:42:38,955 --> 00:42:42,435 who, years before, had been responsible for the death 592 00:42:42,435 --> 00:42:44,835 of a little boy in her care. 593 00:42:44,835 --> 00:42:48,475 Was she murdered in revenge? 594 00:42:50,955 --> 00:42:55,435 Taking inspiration from the real-life O'Neill case, 595 00:42:55,435 --> 00:42:58,475 Agatha imagines that the surviving brother 596 00:42:58,475 --> 00:43:00,675 could be the vengeful killer. 597 00:43:02,235 --> 00:43:06,595 The first suspect in The Mousetrap is a young man of the right age. 598 00:43:06,595 --> 00:43:08,275 Could it be him? 599 00:43:09,635 --> 00:43:12,475 The Mousetrap opened in 1952 600 00:43:12,475 --> 00:43:16,835 and it's become the longest-running play in theatrical history. 601 00:43:16,835 --> 00:43:21,555 But could its success, in part, be down to a real-life tragedy? 602 00:43:23,195 --> 00:43:27,475 Do you think that the people sitting here watching The Mousetrap in 1952 603 00:43:27,475 --> 00:43:29,955 would have remembered the O'Neill case? 604 00:43:29,955 --> 00:43:33,395 It was, in 1945, a very important case. 605 00:43:33,395 --> 00:43:37,475 This awful story of the boys who were sent into foster care. 606 00:43:37,475 --> 00:43:40,515 This forms the back story of The Mousetrap. 607 00:43:40,515 --> 00:43:42,715 It's not the actual action of the piece 608 00:43:42,715 --> 00:43:45,395 but it is referenced throughout it as one of the reasons 609 00:43:45,395 --> 00:43:49,035 for the motivation of the characters and the reason why people are there. 610 00:43:49,035 --> 00:43:51,395 For the audiences of 1952, 611 00:43:51,395 --> 00:43:53,755 yes, it would have been fresh in their memories. 612 00:43:53,755 --> 00:43:56,555 They would have understood the referencing in the play. 613 00:43:56,555 --> 00:44:00,595 Now, we believe that Agatha Christie was inspired by the O'Neill case 614 00:44:00,595 --> 00:44:02,435 for writing The Mousetrap, 615 00:44:02,435 --> 00:44:04,915 but is there any actual hard evidence of that? 616 00:44:04,915 --> 00:44:08,955 Well, have a look at this from the Agatha Christie archive. 617 00:44:08,955 --> 00:44:13,595 It's a newspaper cutting from 1966 from the Sunday Mirror, 618 00:44:13,595 --> 00:44:15,675 which obviously caught Agatha's eye. 619 00:44:15,675 --> 00:44:17,955 She's written on it. This is brilliant. 620 00:44:17,955 --> 00:44:21,155 And what does it say here? "From this real-life..." 621 00:44:21,155 --> 00:44:24,395 "From this real-life happening..." Happening, that's what it says. 622 00:44:24,395 --> 00:44:26,675 "..I took the idea for The Mousetrap." 623 00:44:26,675 --> 00:44:29,475 And I like the way she's signed it "Agatha Christie". 624 00:44:29,475 --> 00:44:32,915 She's written that for posterity. She's written that for us. 625 00:44:32,915 --> 00:44:35,075 It's endlessly fascinating to me. 626 00:44:35,075 --> 00:44:38,835 People think that Agatha Christie somehow celebrates Britishness, 627 00:44:38,835 --> 00:44:42,035 that she's the sort of tourist marketing board image 628 00:44:42,035 --> 00:44:44,075 of Britishness. I imagine you disagree. 629 00:44:44,075 --> 00:44:46,315 There's nothing cosy about The Mousetrap. 630 00:44:46,315 --> 00:44:49,475 Over time, I think people began to appreciate 631 00:44:49,475 --> 00:44:52,315 exactly the significance of what it was talking about. 632 00:44:52,315 --> 00:44:55,675 Harold Hobson, the great Sunday Times theatre critic, 633 00:44:55,675 --> 00:44:58,475 wrote an article about The Mousetrap 634 00:44:58,475 --> 00:45:01,155 in which he attributed its success to the fact 635 00:45:01,155 --> 00:45:04,395 that it was what he called a parable of our times. 636 00:45:04,395 --> 00:45:06,435 Everybody in it is displaced, 637 00:45:06,435 --> 00:45:09,395 everybody in it is suffering from post-war anxieties. 638 00:45:09,395 --> 00:45:13,355 This is not a country house but a country house that's being turned 639 00:45:13,355 --> 00:45:16,195 into a guesthouse in order to make ends meet. 640 00:45:16,195 --> 00:45:20,435 This is people having strangers in their house after the war. 641 00:45:20,435 --> 00:45:23,715 The suspicion of the stranger very much comes through in the play. 642 00:45:23,715 --> 00:45:27,755 And you have perhaps one of the most radical images on the London stage 643 00:45:27,755 --> 00:45:30,155 at the time, which is the lady of the house 644 00:45:30,155 --> 00:45:32,435 carries a vacuum cleaner across the stage. 645 00:45:32,435 --> 00:45:36,475 Now, we have to contextualise this in that, four years later, 646 00:45:36,475 --> 00:45:39,755 at the Royal Court, John Osborne's Look Back In Anger 647 00:45:39,755 --> 00:45:43,195 is thought to have, you know, recalibrated the entirety 648 00:45:43,195 --> 00:45:46,435 of British theatre by showing a woman doing the ironing, 649 00:45:46,435 --> 00:45:50,435 which was not the kind of thing you went to the theatre to see. 650 00:45:50,435 --> 00:45:53,435 But Agatha Christie was doing it first. Exactly. 651 00:45:53,435 --> 00:45:56,155 As well as this extraordinary background story, 652 00:45:56,155 --> 00:46:00,275 it works very well as entertainment, and people like to be entertained. 653 00:46:00,275 --> 00:46:03,915 It's got a lot of comedy in it, it's got a lot of very good characters, 654 00:46:03,915 --> 00:46:06,355 and it's got a really fascinating plot 655 00:46:06,355 --> 00:46:10,635 with one of the most legendary twist endings in theatre of all time. 656 00:46:21,395 --> 00:46:25,875 In the 1950s, with the troubles of wartime behind them, 657 00:46:25,875 --> 00:46:27,875 it was back to Greenway. 658 00:46:32,155 --> 00:46:35,395 The house became a happy family retreat, 659 00:46:35,395 --> 00:46:38,635 full of food, laughter and fun. 660 00:46:39,675 --> 00:46:42,355 Agatha's contentment was complete. 661 00:46:46,675 --> 00:46:52,035 This is one of my favourite letters that Agatha ever wrote to Max. 662 00:46:52,035 --> 00:46:57,155 "Darling...", she says, "..you are 40 today. Hurrah. At last. 663 00:46:57,155 --> 00:46:59,955 "It makes a big difference to me. 664 00:46:59,955 --> 00:47:03,435 "I feel it closes the gap a little. 665 00:47:03,435 --> 00:47:07,115 "When you were in the thirties and I had reached the fifties, 666 00:47:07,115 --> 00:47:08,915 "it was pretty grim." 667 00:47:10,435 --> 00:47:15,435 As Max was settling into comfortable middle age, 668 00:47:15,435 --> 00:47:20,435 perhaps some of Agatha's old insecurities were melting away. 669 00:47:22,115 --> 00:47:25,475 And she was also closing the age gap 670 00:47:25,475 --> 00:47:29,435 with somebody else who was very important to her. 671 00:47:32,155 --> 00:47:35,515 Agatha's creation Miss Marple. 672 00:47:35,515 --> 00:47:41,195 The shrewd and observant old lady detective appears in 12 novels, 673 00:47:41,195 --> 00:47:43,875 most of them from the post-war years. 674 00:47:45,275 --> 00:47:50,435 Now, I think the very best Poirot novels are from the '20s and '30s, 675 00:47:50,435 --> 00:47:52,395 when Agatha was young. 676 00:47:52,395 --> 00:47:58,475 In 1950, she turned 60, and from then on, 677 00:47:58,475 --> 00:48:03,355 she and Miss Marple would get older at the same pace. 678 00:48:03,355 --> 00:48:05,995 They'd go through life together, 679 00:48:05,995 --> 00:48:09,835 almost as if Christie and Marple were the very same person. 680 00:48:13,715 --> 00:48:17,795 Agatha inhabited Miss Marple inside and out. 681 00:48:17,795 --> 00:48:20,995 She was so immersed in Marple stories 682 00:48:20,995 --> 00:48:25,475 that she grabbed anyone she could to help perfect their brilliant plots, 683 00:48:25,475 --> 00:48:28,435 including getting her neighbours to act them out. 684 00:48:30,155 --> 00:48:33,715 Agatha had the neighbours come into the drawing room 685 00:48:33,715 --> 00:48:37,915 and she stationed one of them behind the door. 686 00:48:37,915 --> 00:48:39,795 This would be significant. 687 00:48:40,795 --> 00:48:43,195 Then she turned off the lights... 688 00:48:44,395 --> 00:48:47,435 ..and came in waving a torch around. 689 00:48:54,355 --> 00:48:57,475 Then the lights came back on again 690 00:48:57,475 --> 00:49:01,955 and Agatha asked everybody to explain what they'd seen. 691 00:49:01,955 --> 00:49:04,435 Of course, all the neighbours said, "We saw nothing. 692 00:49:04,435 --> 00:49:08,515 "We were dazzled by the torch," except for this person, 693 00:49:08,515 --> 00:49:10,995 because this person was behind the beam 694 00:49:10,995 --> 00:49:14,035 and they could see what had gone on. 695 00:49:14,035 --> 00:49:18,515 When the book A Murder Is Announced came out, 696 00:49:18,515 --> 00:49:21,955 the neighbours all realised that they'd been part of 697 00:49:21,955 --> 00:49:24,395 a kind of a novelist's field experiment 698 00:49:24,395 --> 00:49:28,475 to test out this really crucial aspect of the plot. 699 00:49:40,835 --> 00:49:44,915 But the Marple stories are more than just cunningly plotted 700 00:49:44,915 --> 00:49:48,155 and deeply satisfying crime novels. 701 00:49:48,155 --> 00:49:52,875 I think that they document a changing British society. 702 00:49:54,955 --> 00:49:58,715 Caroline Crampton is a detective fiction podcaster... 703 00:49:58,715 --> 00:50:00,675 Come in for a cup of tea. 704 00:50:00,675 --> 00:50:02,795 ..and fellow Christie fan. 705 00:50:06,435 --> 00:50:08,235 We're sitting in a lovely village, 706 00:50:08,235 --> 00:50:10,915 just the sort of place that Miss Marple lived, 707 00:50:10,915 --> 00:50:14,195 but something's changing about these villages 708 00:50:14,195 --> 00:50:16,995 in the later Marple novels, isn't it? 709 00:50:16,995 --> 00:50:19,475 In A Murder Is Announced, it's 1950, 710 00:50:19,475 --> 00:50:24,115 we start to see the way the social fabric of England has changed. 711 00:50:24,115 --> 00:50:26,755 People's lives were completely disjointed and fragmented 712 00:50:26,755 --> 00:50:28,435 by what happened in the war. 713 00:50:28,435 --> 00:50:30,435 Once upon a time, everyone who lived there 714 00:50:30,435 --> 00:50:32,475 would have been known to everybody else 715 00:50:32,475 --> 00:50:35,715 and if, in the unlikely event that any newcomers arrived, 716 00:50:35,715 --> 00:50:38,755 they would come via some established network. 717 00:50:38,755 --> 00:50:40,835 They would come with a letter of introduction 718 00:50:40,835 --> 00:50:42,395 from a friend or family member. 719 00:50:42,395 --> 00:50:46,075 And yet by the time we reach the post Second World War period, 720 00:50:46,075 --> 00:50:50,395 people turn up all the time with no letter and no roots, 721 00:50:50,395 --> 00:50:52,355 and that's just how the world is now. 722 00:50:52,355 --> 00:50:54,475 And that changed - that gap. 723 00:50:54,475 --> 00:50:58,475 Agatha Christie really inhabits and makes it work for her mystery. 724 00:50:58,475 --> 00:51:00,675 In the story, Miss Marple even says, 725 00:51:00,675 --> 00:51:04,635 15 years ago we would have known who everybody was. Now we no longer do. 726 00:51:04,635 --> 00:51:07,435 And that's the effect Christie is trying to create, I think. 727 00:51:07,435 --> 00:51:10,075 Destabilising these ideas of identity. 728 00:51:10,075 --> 00:51:13,475 The way that she writes mysteries keeps pace with the way 729 00:51:13,475 --> 00:51:15,155 that the world is changing, 730 00:51:15,155 --> 00:51:19,595 so she's not trying to recreate the villages of the 1920s and '30s. 731 00:51:19,595 --> 00:51:22,435 She's looking at the world as it is and going, 732 00:51:22,435 --> 00:51:25,995 "How can I use parts of this in order to write a really good plot?" 733 00:51:25,995 --> 00:51:28,475 You know, Caroline, I think a lot of people would say 734 00:51:28,475 --> 00:51:31,155 that Agatha Christie was socially conservative, 735 00:51:31,155 --> 00:51:34,475 but her stories don't necessarily prove that, do they? 736 00:51:34,475 --> 00:51:38,275 No. There's one really good example of that in A Murder Is Announced, 737 00:51:38,275 --> 00:51:41,955 where we've got an openly lesbian couple. 738 00:51:41,955 --> 00:51:45,995 Miss Hinchcliffe and Miss Murgatroyd are just totally normal neighbours, 739 00:51:45,995 --> 00:51:49,635 and we even get a really emotional moment in that book 740 00:51:49,635 --> 00:51:53,515 when Miss Murgatroyd is killed and Miss Marple 741 00:51:53,515 --> 00:51:56,955 comforts Miss Hinchcliffe at the loss of her partner, 742 00:51:56,955 --> 00:51:59,395 and that this is really tragic and devastating. 743 00:51:59,395 --> 00:52:02,435 To me, it's quite amazing that a same-sex couple 744 00:52:02,435 --> 00:52:05,155 is just slipped into the landscape like that 745 00:52:05,155 --> 00:52:08,755 in commercial fiction in 1950. It's really progressive. 746 00:52:08,755 --> 00:52:11,395 It is. And even subversive in a way, 747 00:52:11,395 --> 00:52:14,875 homosexuality not being legalised until much later, 748 00:52:14,875 --> 00:52:17,675 and yet it's completely normal in the book. 749 00:52:17,675 --> 00:52:20,475 As we go on into the 1960s 750 00:52:20,475 --> 00:52:24,155 and Agatha Christie is now in her own seventies, 751 00:52:24,155 --> 00:52:26,235 how do the villages change? 752 00:52:26,235 --> 00:52:28,475 Well, everything changes about them. 753 00:52:28,475 --> 00:52:31,475 St Mary Mead is no longer this tight, closed little circle 754 00:52:31,475 --> 00:52:34,555 of a high street with a few different shops and a few cottages. 755 00:52:34,555 --> 00:52:38,795 All sorts of modern ideas have arrived, including a supermarket 756 00:52:38,795 --> 00:52:41,875 instead of your individual grocer shops, 757 00:52:41,875 --> 00:52:44,875 and things like people don't eat bacon and eggs 758 00:52:44,875 --> 00:52:47,715 for breakfast any more, they eat cereal for convenience, 759 00:52:47,715 --> 00:52:49,435 it comes straight out of a box. 760 00:52:49,435 --> 00:52:52,675 And, yes, a lot of people would say, well, all Agatha Christie stories 761 00:52:52,675 --> 00:52:56,075 are set in the same year of roughly 1935, wouldn't they? 762 00:52:56,075 --> 00:52:59,155 People get this idea of the fact that Agatha Christie 763 00:52:59,155 --> 00:53:01,355 can be identified with a specific era 764 00:53:01,355 --> 00:53:04,195 when, actually, she had a writing career spanning decades 765 00:53:04,195 --> 00:53:06,195 and she evolved through it. 766 00:53:14,555 --> 00:53:18,395 Part of that evolution involved a late reconciliation 767 00:53:18,395 --> 00:53:20,235 with the film industry. 768 00:53:21,235 --> 00:53:24,915 The movie studios had come calling for Agatha's best sellers 769 00:53:24,915 --> 00:53:28,195 from the beginning but, the truth was, 770 00:53:28,195 --> 00:53:31,595 she didn't really like the films of her books. 771 00:53:31,595 --> 00:53:34,675 She struggled with seeing her detectives, 772 00:53:34,675 --> 00:53:36,875 Marple and Poirot, on screen. 773 00:53:38,715 --> 00:53:43,955 But in 1974, now an old lady, Agatha relented, 774 00:53:43,955 --> 00:53:49,475 and movie moguls persuaded her to lend them one of her biggest titles. 775 00:53:50,995 --> 00:53:54,115 Starring the greatest cast of suspicious characters 776 00:53:54,115 --> 00:53:56,115 ever involved in murder... 777 00:53:56,115 --> 00:53:59,435 The murderer is with us now. 778 00:53:59,435 --> 00:54:01,475 You can identify the murderer? 779 00:54:01,475 --> 00:54:05,315 Lauren Bacall, Ingrid Bergman, Jacqueline Bisset. 780 00:54:05,315 --> 00:54:07,075 He makes it sound like a poison. 781 00:54:07,075 --> 00:54:09,235 Sean Connery. How did you know? 782 00:54:09,235 --> 00:54:10,675 Beddoes. 783 00:54:10,675 --> 00:54:12,235 John Gielgud. 784 00:54:12,235 --> 00:54:13,675 Mr Beddoes. 785 00:54:13,675 --> 00:54:16,715 Murder On The Orient Express. 786 00:54:24,395 --> 00:54:26,675 I think that, in old age, 787 00:54:26,675 --> 00:54:29,675 Agatha wanted to give her most successful creation 788 00:54:29,675 --> 00:54:31,955 a life beyond her own, 789 00:54:31,955 --> 00:54:36,635 to ensure that Hercule Poirot would live on for a new generation. 790 00:54:37,755 --> 00:54:42,355 At the London premiere, Agatha, the queen of crime, 791 00:54:42,355 --> 00:54:45,435 was introduced to the Queen of England. 792 00:54:47,755 --> 00:54:51,235 But by now, Agatha's health was in decline. 793 00:54:51,235 --> 00:54:54,275 She attended the premiere in a wheelchair. 794 00:55:00,795 --> 00:55:06,275 Agatha had ensured Poirot's legacy on the silver screen 795 00:55:06,275 --> 00:55:10,355 but she also wanted to say a more personal goodbye 796 00:55:10,355 --> 00:55:12,355 to her cherished character. 797 00:55:14,395 --> 00:55:18,155 In 1975, sensing the end, 798 00:55:18,155 --> 00:55:22,515 Agatha published Curtain: Poirot's Last Case, 799 00:55:22,515 --> 00:55:26,275 that novel she'd written in the war years and locked away. 800 00:55:27,955 --> 00:55:33,475 In this story, Poirot, like Agatha herself, is now in a wheelchair. 801 00:55:33,475 --> 00:55:36,795 And right at the end, just before he dies, 802 00:55:36,795 --> 00:55:41,435 he says goodbye to his really old friend, Hastings. 803 00:55:41,435 --> 00:55:44,875 He says, "Goodbye, cher ami. 804 00:55:46,075 --> 00:55:48,035 "They were good days." 805 00:55:49,115 --> 00:55:52,155 It's like Agatha is saying goodbye to her readers. 806 00:55:53,395 --> 00:55:56,875 MUSIC: Nimrod by Edward Elgar 807 00:56:00,395 --> 00:56:03,955 Agatha Christie died peacefully 808 00:56:03,955 --> 00:56:06,995 on 12th January 1976... 809 00:56:09,435 --> 00:56:11,675 ..with Max at her side. 810 00:56:15,955 --> 00:56:20,235 Ever the writer, she scripted her own funeral. 811 00:56:22,635 --> 00:56:28,115 She wanted a piece of music by Elgar called Nimrod... 812 00:56:30,475 --> 00:56:35,235 ..the name of the place in Iraq she and Max had excavated 813 00:56:35,235 --> 00:56:37,475 in their glory days. 814 00:56:46,635 --> 00:56:52,475 After Agatha died, this letter was found folded up very small 815 00:56:52,475 --> 00:56:54,115 in her purse. 816 00:56:55,555 --> 00:56:59,675 Turns out she'd been carrying it around with her for 39 years, 817 00:56:59,675 --> 00:57:01,635 and I can see why. 818 00:57:01,635 --> 00:57:03,675 This is what Max had written. 819 00:57:03,675 --> 00:57:07,515 "Sometimes, but not so very often, 820 00:57:07,515 --> 00:57:12,195 "two people find real love together as we do. 821 00:57:13,395 --> 00:57:16,435 "We know that what we have cannot perish. 822 00:57:17,715 --> 00:57:23,235 "For me, you will remain beautiful and precious 823 00:57:23,235 --> 00:57:25,595 "with the passing of years." 824 00:57:27,835 --> 00:57:29,475 Ah. 825 00:57:34,755 --> 00:57:39,675 The happiness at the end of her life and the success she enjoyed 826 00:57:39,675 --> 00:57:45,515 as a writer belied the tumultuous times she endured getting there. 827 00:57:45,515 --> 00:57:48,875 But that turmoil was the making of her. 828 00:57:48,875 --> 00:57:52,475 Agatha Christie's dark, brilliant imagination 829 00:57:52,475 --> 00:57:57,515 was shaped by the upheaval of her own extraordinary lifetime. 830 00:57:57,515 --> 00:58:00,675 Without all that, I don't think she would have become 831 00:58:00,675 --> 00:58:03,395 the pioneering author she was... 832 00:58:04,755 --> 00:58:09,555 ..and we would not have such a rich legacy of stories. 833 00:58:10,675 --> 00:58:15,195 A legacy that continues to captivate to this day. 66458

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