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In the criminal justice
system, the people are represented
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by two separate yet
equally important groups…
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The police who
investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Don't kill your
baby! Abortion is a sin.
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Don't kill your baby!
Abortion is a sin.
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Don't kill your baby!
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Abortion is a sin…
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Do they ever get bored?
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The True Believers?
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Not on your life.
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Abortion is a sin!
Don't kill your babies!
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Abortion is a sin!
Don't kill your babies!
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Abortion is a sin!
Don't kill your babies!
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Abortion is a sin!
Don't kill your babies…
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Past 24 weeks? We can't help you.
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Well, I'm not sure.
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Okay…
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fill this out and you
can see the nurse.
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Women's Choices.
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God, not again.
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So my father says,
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"If you weren't a cop
you would get a husband.
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Who told you to be a cop?"
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My mother says, "I
told her to be a cop
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so she wouldn't worry
about getting a husband."
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You could always marry me.
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You're not what my
father had in mind.
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29 Adam,
respond to 312 West 19th
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Chelsea Women's Choices
regarding bomb threat; advise.
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We are at that location
and will advise further.
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Come on, let's go.
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Easy, easy, easy.
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Don't panic. It
will be all right.
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Take it easy.
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Out now!
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That's everybody.
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Come on, let's go.
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Stay
behind the barrier.
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I'm asking if you saw
anybody carrying something…
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Knapsack, package,
a large bag…
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Anything out of the ordinary.
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Yo!
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Good morning,
Vietnam. What do we got?
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Your garden-variety lunatic
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blowing up a room
with a lot of ladies in it.
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The bomb.
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Your basic type.
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Fertilizer and diesel?
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You got it. Amateur hour.
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The only thing I like more than
a bomber is an amateur bomber.
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Timer? Quartz alarm clock.
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Straight out of "The
Revolutionary Cookbook."
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If that's the main course,
I can't wait to see dessert.
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Yeah, well, there won't
be any dessert for this one.
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Student ID.
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- "University of Manhattan".
- Sandra Turner.
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21-22, maybe. She
was in the bathroom.
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Was she here for an abortion?
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Doesn't play that way.
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She didn't sign in.
Nobody saw her.
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It looks like she
was the delivery girl,
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but she didn't get
out quick enough.
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Put her right through the wall.
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We get calls all the time…
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False alarms, but still
we get everybody out.
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Did you recognize the
voice on the phone before?
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She only said "bomb." How
could I recognize her voice?
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What about the girl in
the bathroom… Turner?
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Did she fill out a form?
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No way. I didn't see her.
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She wasn't a patient.
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They can't wait to
talk to somebody.
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She must have
carried the bomb in.
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What is wrong with these people?
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Sooner or later,
it had to happen.
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As long as the courts
refuse to act against abortion,
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there are going
to be individuals…
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Are you defending these nuts?
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Come on. This
ain't lone justice.
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It's a conspiracy.
They can't stop abortion
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through the courts, so
they'll bomb a few clinics.
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We don't know that.
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We don't? I don't
remember reading anything
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about a cellular
phone in the bathroom.
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Somebody called in a warning.
Two people make a conspiracy.
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Look, all I'm saying is
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I understand why
they're frustrated.
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Max, a girl is dead.
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She was 22 years old.
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Tell them to write their
congressman, not throw bombs.
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I'm only saying they believe
in something and they're angry.
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They're angry? So they send
a girl in there with a bomb?
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In my book that is not
frustration, that's murder.
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Eight bombings in
the last seven months,
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all of them at night.
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None of them
happened in the daytime.
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Nobody was hurt before either.
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We've got six active
anti-abortion protest groups
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with offices in Manhattan.
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Let's see if the ME's got an ID,
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then we'll start on these.
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Whatever she used
did a real job on her.
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Anybody come to ID her?
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- Nah.
- No prints?
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Epithelial layers gone.
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I could get better
prints from charcoal.
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You'll have a preliminary
report tomorrow,
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but there's not much
doubt about the COD.
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That's it? Cash… no wallet?
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Just the university ID.
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Nobody on this student number.
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Try Turner, Sandra.
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We haven't had six
digit IDs in two years.
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Turner, Samuel…
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Turner, Sheila…
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No Turner, Sandra.
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But this is the
university's card?
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No, it isn't.
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This picture is… glued on.
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It's a fake. The real
one's like a license,
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all one piece.
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Back to square one.
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Let's hit some of those
anti-abortion groups.
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0 for three. Number
four… "Women for Life,"
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headed by Rose Schwimmer.
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Our battle isn't about
restoring Central Park,
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or a 15¢ increase
in the subway fare,
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or separating cans and
bottles from our trash.
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It's about human life.
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Sometimes people
go out of bounds.
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Do you ever go out of bounds?
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All the time.
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That's why I'm here.
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You're here to break the law?
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I'm here to stop the
murder of babies.
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Look, let's get this clear.
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Abortion is a right
in this country!
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That clinic was performing a
legal and medical procedure.
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They weren't murdering anything.
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Mrs. Schwimmer…
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a girl is dead.
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The clinic's just a couple
of minutes from here.
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I'm horrified by what happened.
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But you sympathize, don't you?
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I mean, with people
who bomb abortion clinics.
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I don't condone
violence, but i understand.
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Does a woman named Sandra Turner
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belong to your group?
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Would hand me that
folder there, please?
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We have over 2,000
active members.
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And a couple thousand
more come to our vigils,
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and send contributions.
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No Sandra Turner.
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Where were you when
the bomb went off?
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Why?
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People from your group
were picketing that day.
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Am I a suspect, Detective?
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Lazy Jane's around
the corner having tea.
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I guess when you go against
the system the way we do,
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you're guilty until
proven innocent.
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She comes every Wednesday…
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Rose Schwimmer.
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She came in between
10:00 and 11:00.
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Are you sure of the time?
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Why do you think it's
called Lazy Jane's?
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I don't get in until 10:00.
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So what? She
came right after you?
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10:15, 10:30.
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Her friend came in a
couple of minutes later.
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The friend a regular, too?
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Semi… a couple times a month.
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You know the look…
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Raggedy Ann with a
Bendel's charge card.
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She's a real pro-shopper.
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She had this big box with her.
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A box? She put
right on the table.
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Can you believe that?
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I mean, it was the
size of a toaster oven.
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I put it on the chair.
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This isn't a dinner.
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Watch… five years
they'll legalize drugs.
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Pfft! Maybe, maybe not.
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It's a great country, Max.
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You can do what you
want, when you want,
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with who you want.
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Which means if a
woman wants an abortion,
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she can get one.
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Just because she
was careless enough
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to get knocked up
in the first place?
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What are you against,
abortions or sex?
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Abortions. I like sex.
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So a 17-year-old should louse
up her whole life by having a kid?
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17-year-olds shouldn't be
doing what makes babies.
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And crooks shouldn't have guns.
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Get real. What they
should be is more careful.
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Kids aren't careful,
that's why they're kids.
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Mrs. Schwimmer didn't
mention that she had tea
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with Ms. Toaster Oven.
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I get it. Now every pro-life
protestor is a bomber.
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You agree with them, don't you?
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Okay, Don Juan…
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any of your girlfriends
ever have an abortion?
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One ex-girlfriend, who's
now married with two kids…
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Neither of them mine.
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I really don't
have time for this.
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I hate to bother you, but it
is weird that no one saw her.
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Really? If I was
planting a bomb,
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I'd sure try to be invisible.
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That's all the cards.
There's no Sandra Turner.
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I told you… she
didn't sign in.
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How much does an abortion cost?
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$300.
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$300… the price
of a cheap mob hit.
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Hey, Max, look at that.
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Yo! How many
did they take away?
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12, 15.
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Let's go to the
property clerk's office,
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and pick up the
dead girl's keys.
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We got two right here.
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Ooh! Whoa!
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How sweet it is.
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I could get used
to driving this.
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On your salary you
couldn't afford the repairs.
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On my salary i couldn't
even afford the insurance.
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Bingo!
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"Chelsea Women's
Choices Center."
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Let's get the Crime
Scene Unit down here.
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Maybe we'll get lucky
and pull some prints.
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Yeah.
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Come on. Don't
give yourself an ulcer.
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422.
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- Mr. Donovan?
- Yes.
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Sergeant Greevey,
Detective Logan.
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When she didn't
come home last night
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we tried to file a
missing person report.
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They wouldn't take it.
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They said we had
to wait two days.
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Our Father who art in heaven,
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hallowed be Thy name.
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Thy kingdom come,
Thy will be done
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on earth as it is heaven.
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Give us this day
our daily bread,
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and forgive us, we forgive
those who trespass against us.
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You daughter, did she
belong to a right-to-life group?
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The thing about Mary…
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She loves kids.
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That's why she teaches.
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Did Mary ever mention
Women for Life?
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She was sympathetic
to their work, ideals.
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We all are. Did anyone call
the school and tell them that…
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Mary wouldn't be in
today? It's okay, Barbara.
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Couldn't Mary have,
without your knowledge…
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Mary didn't keep
secrets from us.
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We know how hard it is,
257
00:14:42,549 --> 00:14:44,801
but we'd like to
look at Mary's room.
258
00:14:45,635 --> 00:14:48,096
Mary has a thing about privacy.
259
00:14:48,263 --> 00:14:49,306
Barbara…
260
00:14:49,973 --> 00:14:53,226
it doesn't matter if they
go into her room now.
261
00:14:57,939 --> 00:14:59,691
"The Lives of The Saints."
262
00:15:00,901 --> 00:15:02,360
22 years old.
263
00:15:03,486 --> 00:15:05,405
Who sends a kid
to deliver a bomb?
264
00:15:08,283 --> 00:15:09,993
Maybe it was her own idea.
265
00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,995
Yeah?
266
00:15:12,162 --> 00:15:13,997
Who taught her how to make one?
267
00:15:14,164 --> 00:15:16,041
Whoever it was,
268
00:15:16,207 --> 00:15:18,126
they should have
taught her about timers.
269
00:15:18,293 --> 00:15:21,004
The mother seems to
be taking it pretty hard.
270
00:15:21,171 --> 00:15:23,006
It's gonna take awhile.
271
00:15:23,173 --> 00:15:25,926
What? To realize that
her daughter is dead?
272
00:15:26,092 --> 00:15:27,844
To realize she
didn't die with her.
273
00:15:29,304 --> 00:15:32,349
The father doesn't seem
to be having that problem.
274
00:15:32,515 --> 00:15:33,934
That's because…
275
00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:35,936
he didn't lose a daughter,
276
00:15:36,102 --> 00:15:38,104
he gained a martyr.
277
00:15:41,024 --> 00:15:42,108
Hey.
278
00:15:43,735 --> 00:15:46,488
Looks like the brother
owns a lumber company.
279
00:15:48,073 --> 00:15:50,700
Lumber… construction.
280
00:15:50,867 --> 00:15:53,536
Construction… explosives.
281
00:15:54,913 --> 00:15:57,457
Anything you can tell
us about Mary's friends,
282
00:15:57,624 --> 00:15:59,167
teachers she was close to?
283
00:16:01,086 --> 00:16:02,963
My father…
284
00:16:04,381 --> 00:16:06,508
poured himself a cup
of coffee this morning.
285
00:16:07,717 --> 00:16:10,303
Put in milk, sugar,
walked over to the sink,
286
00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:12,305
poured it down the drain.
287
00:16:12,472 --> 00:16:14,808
He didn't know what
the hell he was doing.
288
00:16:14,975 --> 00:16:17,894
I got on the West Side
Highway on my way here…
289
00:16:18,061 --> 00:16:19,896
I forgot to get off.
290
00:16:20,063 --> 00:16:22,691
Went the whole
way to 96th Street.
291
00:16:24,359 --> 00:16:26,695
Just like that, I had a sister
292
00:16:26,861 --> 00:16:28,697
and now I don't.
293
00:16:29,823 --> 00:16:31,825
Is there only the two of you?
294
00:16:31,992 --> 00:16:35,036
Mary always said she
would have a big family.
295
00:16:35,203 --> 00:16:38,498
What about these
anti-abortion groups?
296
00:16:38,665 --> 00:16:40,417
She loved kids.
297
00:16:40,583 --> 00:16:42,877
Did she belong to
any organized groups?
298
00:16:44,504 --> 00:16:45,505
Mr. Donovan,
299
00:16:45,672 --> 00:16:47,132
bombing is a felony.
300
00:16:47,298 --> 00:16:49,259
Fine! I think Mary's
paid for her crime in full,
301
00:16:49,426 --> 00:16:50,552
don't you, Detective?
302
00:16:50,719 --> 00:16:53,304
We don't happen to
think she was in this alone.
303
00:16:53,471 --> 00:16:54,681
Don't you want the people
304
00:16:54,848 --> 00:16:57,517
who helped to kill
your sister to pay, too?
305
00:16:59,269 --> 00:17:01,271
If she was the
member of a group,
306
00:17:01,438 --> 00:17:03,565
she never mentioned it to me.
307
00:17:05,275 --> 00:17:07,944
They might know more
at school… Saint Aloysius.
308
00:17:10,196 --> 00:17:12,949
Some people take a
long time to grow up.
309
00:17:13,116 --> 00:17:14,242
Have a seat.
310
00:17:17,078 --> 00:17:21,124
They still believe in
hearts and flowers,
311
00:17:21,291 --> 00:17:23,334
and Mom never
looks at another guy…
312
00:17:23,501 --> 00:17:25,795
Dad doesn't cheat
on his income tax.
313
00:17:25,962 --> 00:17:29,674
For 22, Mary was… young.
314
00:17:29,841 --> 00:17:33,011
Young enough to let somebody
talk her into throwing a bomb?
315
00:17:33,887 --> 00:17:36,723
Gentlemen, a parochial
school like this…
316
00:17:36,890 --> 00:17:39,059
It's another century.
317
00:17:39,225 --> 00:17:40,894
Mary was a sweet kid.
318
00:17:41,061 --> 00:17:43,438
She believed the whole
world was parochial school,
319
00:17:43,605 --> 00:17:45,315
that all the problems
could be solved
320
00:17:45,482 --> 00:17:47,776
with pure thoughts and a rosary.
321
00:17:47,942 --> 00:17:49,277
Did, uh…
322
00:17:49,444 --> 00:17:52,113
did you know she wasn't
gonna be here yesterday?
323
00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,114
Day off.
324
00:17:53,281 --> 00:17:55,116
Regular day off?
325
00:17:55,992 --> 00:17:58,328
No. Do you know how hard it is
326
00:17:58,495 --> 00:17:59,621
to get good teachers these days?
327
00:17:59,788 --> 00:18:02,332
They ask for a
day off, they get it.
328
00:18:02,499 --> 00:18:04,834
Did she happen to tell you why?
329
00:18:05,001 --> 00:18:07,295
Well, she had been upset.
330
00:18:07,462 --> 00:18:09,923
I figured it was her
boyfriend, Patrick Dunn.
331
00:18:10,090 --> 00:18:12,550
He teaches here,
eighth grade Latin.
332
00:18:12,717 --> 00:18:15,178
Last week they had an
argument in the hallway
333
00:18:15,345 --> 00:18:16,221
in front of the kids.
334
00:18:16,387 --> 00:18:20,058
I had to tell them "This is
not appropriate behavior".
335
00:18:20,683 --> 00:18:22,685
She shouldn't have been there.
336
00:18:23,478 --> 00:18:24,813
It's crazy.
337
00:18:24,979 --> 00:18:26,689
So, Patrick…
338
00:18:27,649 --> 00:18:30,401
this fight you had last week,
what was that all about?
339
00:18:30,568 --> 00:18:32,946
Some article in "The Times."
340
00:18:33,113 --> 00:18:36,116
Connecticut's abortion law…
341
00:18:36,282 --> 00:18:38,201
Mary hated abortion.
342
00:18:38,368 --> 00:18:39,619
Hated it.
343
00:18:39,786 --> 00:18:40,703
You?
344
00:18:41,704 --> 00:18:43,039
Why?
345
00:18:45,708 --> 00:18:48,044
Personally, I think it's a sin,
346
00:18:48,211 --> 00:18:50,380
and I think it's immoral.
347
00:18:50,547 --> 00:18:52,215
But I live in the real world.
348
00:18:53,758 --> 00:18:57,303
Did she ever mention a woman
named Rose Schwimmer?
349
00:18:58,346 --> 00:19:00,014
Women for Life.
350
00:19:00,723 --> 00:19:02,600
Everyone knows who she is.
351
00:19:03,852 --> 00:19:06,813
If you're asking whether I carry
false identification, Detective,
352
00:19:06,980 --> 00:19:08,481
the answer is no.
353
00:19:08,648 --> 00:19:10,024
I'm proud of what I do.
354
00:19:10,191 --> 00:19:11,568
Anybody in your group have any?
355
00:19:11,734 --> 00:19:14,362
- Please.
- Thank you.
356
00:19:16,447 --> 00:19:18,324
This movement attracts
357
00:19:18,491 --> 00:19:20,493
deeply committed individuals.
358
00:19:21,828 --> 00:19:22,912
They get arrested.
359
00:19:24,414 --> 00:19:26,916
Some carry false
identification and jump bail.
360
00:19:27,083 --> 00:19:29,043
And Mary Donovan?
361
00:19:29,210 --> 00:19:31,754
Obviously, deeply committed.
362
00:19:31,921 --> 00:19:34,007
But you didn't even know her.
363
00:19:34,174 --> 00:19:36,509
No, I didn't.
364
00:19:37,635 --> 00:19:39,554
But what I do know
is Mary Donovan,
365
00:19:39,721 --> 00:19:44,225
whoever she was, sacrificed
herself to save the unborn.
366
00:19:44,392 --> 00:19:46,561
Hundreds of them.
367
00:19:46,728 --> 00:19:48,688
I don't approve of her methods,
368
00:19:48,855 --> 00:19:50,899
but I applaud her results.
369
00:19:51,065 --> 00:19:53,359
The day of the bombing
when you had brunch,
370
00:19:53,526 --> 00:19:56,487
you didn't mention
someone else being there…
371
00:19:56,654 --> 00:19:59,908
who happened to be
carrying a large package.
372
00:20:02,452 --> 00:20:04,954
This morning I had
breakfast with my sister.
373
00:20:05,121 --> 00:20:06,915
She carried an umbrella.
374
00:20:07,081 --> 00:20:08,124
I didn't tell you that either.
375
00:20:08,291 --> 00:20:11,294
We're just trying
to do our job here.
376
00:20:11,461 --> 00:20:13,922
We have to verify alibis.
377
00:20:14,088 --> 00:20:16,299
I had brunch with an associate,
378
00:20:16,466 --> 00:20:18,301
Celeste McClure.
379
00:20:20,595 --> 00:20:22,472
Um, this Ms. McClure,
380
00:20:22,639 --> 00:20:24,015
you know where we can find her?
381
00:20:24,182 --> 00:20:26,017
Today?
382
00:20:26,184 --> 00:20:27,685
Probably at the
community garden,
383
00:20:27,852 --> 00:20:29,479
near the stables on 89th Street.
384
00:20:30,772 --> 00:20:32,565
Just came from the printer.
385
00:20:33,775 --> 00:20:35,235
Great, isn't it?
386
00:20:37,570 --> 00:20:39,530
It's wonderful.
387
00:20:40,531 --> 00:20:42,242
Depends on what you're selling.
388
00:20:45,245 --> 00:20:46,621
You're mistaken, Detective.
389
00:20:46,788 --> 00:20:48,748
I didn't know Mary Donovan.
390
00:20:49,207 --> 00:20:50,959
But I wish I had.
391
00:20:51,125 --> 00:20:53,795
What she did makes me proud.
392
00:20:53,962 --> 00:20:56,005
Throwing a bomb?
393
00:20:56,631 --> 00:20:58,675
Innocent people
could have been killed.
394
00:20:58,841 --> 00:21:00,760
In that building
395
00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:03,554
before Mary Donovan
threw that bomb
396
00:21:03,721 --> 00:21:06,683
unborn babies were
being killed every day.
397
00:21:06,849 --> 00:21:10,061
At Lazy Jane's, when you had
brunch with Rose Schwimmer,
398
00:21:10,228 --> 00:21:11,854
what was in the box you had?
399
00:21:12,021 --> 00:21:13,940
Leaflets…
400
00:21:14,107 --> 00:21:15,566
for protestors.
401
00:21:15,733 --> 00:21:18,653
I'm trying to save lives.
You're supposed to save lives.
402
00:21:18,820 --> 00:21:19,529
We're investigating…
403
00:21:19,696 --> 00:21:22,699
A woman who gave her life
in the only cause that counts!
404
00:21:22,865 --> 00:21:25,368
- Nobody's…
- You wear a wedding ring.
405
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,037
Do you have children?
406
00:21:28,788 --> 00:21:32,041
Would you want your
daughter or your wife
407
00:21:32,208 --> 00:21:33,793
to have an abortion?
408
00:21:34,752 --> 00:21:35,962
No.
409
00:21:36,129 --> 00:21:38,923
But I wouldn't want them
tossing bombs either.
410
00:21:41,884 --> 00:21:43,970
If you don't have
any more questions,
411
00:21:44,137 --> 00:21:46,139
I have work to do.
412
00:21:53,855 --> 00:21:55,565
Hmm, ammonium nitrate.
413
00:21:55,732 --> 00:21:59,027
Now, all she needs
is the diesel fuel.
414
00:21:59,193 --> 00:22:02,572
Hey, you know, that's a good
question she asked about your daughter.
415
00:22:02,739 --> 00:22:04,407
Suppose some
boyfriend knocked her up?
416
00:22:04,574 --> 00:22:07,785
Look! We are not
investigating my daughter,
417
00:22:07,952 --> 00:22:10,580
my sex life with my wife, or
my opinions on contraception.
418
00:22:10,747 --> 00:22:13,458
We are investigating the
bombing of an abortion clinic.
419
00:22:13,624 --> 00:22:16,127
Let's just stick to
the job, all right?
420
00:22:20,423 --> 00:22:22,842
Peterson's 121 nitrate.
421
00:22:23,509 --> 00:22:24,677
Where did you get that?
422
00:22:25,428 --> 00:22:27,430
What, I don't look like I
have a green thumb to you?
423
00:22:27,597 --> 00:22:29,015
You must be one
hell of a gardener.
424
00:22:29,474 --> 00:22:31,392
Do you grow palm
trees in your backyard?
425
00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:32,977
This stuff is for
tropical plants.
426
00:22:33,353 --> 00:22:34,103
New York?
427
00:22:34,771 --> 00:22:36,105
A big item in Hawaii.
428
00:22:43,071 --> 00:22:45,114
Quite a record Mrs.
Schwimmer's got here.
429
00:22:45,948 --> 00:22:49,077
Trespassing,
disturbing the peace…
430
00:22:49,827 --> 00:22:51,245
harassment.
431
00:22:51,913 --> 00:22:54,165
For such a non-violent person
432
00:22:54,332 --> 00:22:55,500
she sure does get around.
433
00:22:55,666 --> 00:22:59,295
I've seen armed robbers who've
got shorter rap sheets than this.
434
00:23:00,046 --> 00:23:02,924
McClure's got nothing
but a dismissed trespass.
435
00:23:03,674 --> 00:23:06,302
It's a big step from
there to armed robbery.
436
00:23:06,469 --> 00:23:08,930
Yeah, well, Donovan's
completely clean.
437
00:23:09,097 --> 00:23:10,139
She doesn't even
have a traffic ticket.
438
00:23:10,306 --> 00:23:12,517
But she was willing to go all
the way up to arson and murder
439
00:23:12,683 --> 00:23:14,435
even with Mr. Clean
for her boyfriend.
440
00:23:14,602 --> 00:23:18,564
The methods are wrong, but
they're trying to prevent murder.
441
00:23:18,731 --> 00:23:20,024
Spare me the rhetoric.
442
00:23:20,191 --> 00:23:22,235
I don't consider
abortion murder.
443
00:23:22,402 --> 00:23:24,570
If a woman wants one,
that's her right to choose…
444
00:23:24,737 --> 00:23:28,783
Not yours, not mine and
certainly not Ms. Rose Schwimmer.
445
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:30,284
I don't care what you believe,
446
00:23:31,202 --> 00:23:34,455
trying to prevent abortions
by bombing goes way too far.
447
00:23:34,622 --> 00:23:36,582
I don't even know how you
can sit here and defend it.
448
00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:38,668
You and I both know they
didn't mean to hurt anybody!
449
00:23:38,835 --> 00:23:41,087
No, I don't know that, okay?!
450
00:23:41,254 --> 00:23:43,548
Only an idiot thinks
bombs don't hurt people.
451
00:23:43,714 --> 00:23:44,882
Come on, tell me more!
452
00:23:45,049 --> 00:23:46,884
Lab report just came in.
453
00:23:47,635 --> 00:23:48,761
Fertilizer's a match on the bomb
454
00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:50,680
and they got a bunch of
good latent prints on the bag…
455
00:23:50,847 --> 00:23:52,348
All the same woman.
456
00:23:52,515 --> 00:23:56,018
And they're a match for the
parcel on the bomb fragment.
457
00:23:56,477 --> 00:23:59,063
If you two could manage
not to kill each other
458
00:23:59,230 --> 00:24:02,316
maybe you could pick up
McClure and see if her prints match.
459
00:24:11,993 --> 00:24:13,744
We're not saying
it's a slam dunk.
460
00:24:13,911 --> 00:24:16,956
Slam dunk? A bag of
fertilizer and a couple of prints?
461
00:24:17,123 --> 00:24:18,374
Right now, I'd have a hard time
462
00:24:18,541 --> 00:24:20,251
of convicting Celeste
McClure of bad gardening.
463
00:24:20,418 --> 00:24:22,503
I'm trying to make this work
beyond just an indictment.
464
00:24:22,670 --> 00:24:24,088
You don't like it? Don't file.
465
00:24:24,255 --> 00:24:25,673
That's just fine with me.
466
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,885
Are you in favor of people
planting bombs, Sergeant?
467
00:24:29,051 --> 00:24:30,470
Careful, Counselor.
468
00:24:30,636 --> 00:24:33,473
All I'm saying is that these
women are true believers.
469
00:24:33,639 --> 00:24:36,893
And so far, they've hurt
no one but each other.
470
00:24:37,059 --> 00:24:39,103
Yeah. Talk about dumb luck.
471
00:24:42,190 --> 00:24:43,608
Gentlemen.
472
00:24:49,197 --> 00:24:51,657
McClure made the
bomb. Donovan muled it.
473
00:24:51,824 --> 00:24:52,992
Schwimmer ordered it.
474
00:24:53,159 --> 00:24:54,368
You want my advice?
475
00:24:54,535 --> 00:24:56,704
Offer McClure a
plea. She'll take it.
476
00:24:56,871 --> 00:24:58,873
She wants to be a martyr.
477
00:25:00,708 --> 00:25:03,377
Celeste McClure,
the charges are
478
00:25:03,544 --> 00:25:05,254
conspiracy in the third degree,
479
00:25:05,421 --> 00:25:07,590
reckless endangerment
in the second degree,
480
00:25:07,757 --> 00:25:10,009
arson in the second degree.
481
00:25:10,176 --> 00:25:12,178
How does the defendant
plead on the first count?
482
00:25:12,345 --> 00:25:13,971
Not guilty on all
counts, Your Honor.
483
00:25:14,138 --> 00:25:16,766
We request release of the
defendant on her own recognizance.
484
00:25:16,933 --> 00:25:19,060
Based upon what, Mr. Ballard?
485
00:25:19,227 --> 00:25:21,562
These are two serious
felony charges here.
486
00:25:21,729 --> 00:25:24,273
Based on the fact that this
is a political prosecution.
487
00:25:25,483 --> 00:25:27,652
You're not on trial
yet, Counselor.
488
00:25:27,818 --> 00:25:29,237
Your Honor, if it
please the court,
489
00:25:29,403 --> 00:25:32,156
Ms. McClure is a young woman
with no previous criminal record
490
00:25:32,323 --> 00:25:34,116
and close ties to the community.
491
00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:35,284
Mr. Stone?
492
00:25:35,451 --> 00:25:38,120
The People have no objection
to minimum bail, Your Honor.
493
00:25:38,287 --> 00:25:41,707
Then bail is set at
$10,000 cash or bond.
494
00:25:41,874 --> 00:25:43,709
Short date.
495
00:25:46,295 --> 00:25:48,089
Thanks for the
bail recommendation.
496
00:25:48,256 --> 00:25:49,298
Not at all, sir.
497
00:25:49,465 --> 00:25:50,967
Martyrs don't run.
498
00:25:51,133 --> 00:25:53,636
How can you allow
yourself to be used like this?
499
00:25:53,803 --> 00:25:56,847
If you're gonna stick your
finger in my eye, Mr. Ballard,
500
00:25:57,014 --> 00:25:58,349
clean your own nails first.
501
00:25:58,516 --> 00:26:00,643
It seems to me the only
reason for this prosecution
502
00:26:00,810 --> 00:26:03,479
is to make the right-to-life
movement look bad.
503
00:26:03,646 --> 00:26:04,855
That'll get you in the papers,
504
00:26:05,022 --> 00:26:07,275
but it won't help your
client and it's not true.
505
00:26:07,441 --> 00:26:09,485
McClure didn't plant that bomb,
506
00:26:09,652 --> 00:26:10,570
Mary Donovan did.
507
00:26:10,736 --> 00:26:11,862
McClure made the bomb.
508
00:26:12,029 --> 00:26:14,323
The best you can get, if
you believe she's guilty…
509
00:26:14,490 --> 00:26:16,492
Conspiracy six, arson four.
510
00:26:16,659 --> 00:26:18,828
Are you accusing me
of filing inflated charges?
511
00:26:18,995 --> 00:26:21,330
I'm only saying you're gonna
cost the state a lot of money
512
00:26:21,497 --> 00:26:23,332
merely to get her on probation.
513
00:26:23,499 --> 00:26:26,335
If probation will keep a bomb out of
that woman's hands, it's worth the money.
514
00:26:26,502 --> 00:26:28,087
These people aren't criminals.
515
00:26:28,254 --> 00:26:30,631
What are they, Mary
Poppins, Mother Teresa?
516
00:26:30,798 --> 00:26:33,426
They are exercising
their right of free speech.
517
00:26:33,593 --> 00:26:35,678
Throwing a bomb
is a little non-verbal
518
00:26:35,845 --> 00:26:37,972
to qualify as speech, sir.
519
00:26:39,682 --> 00:26:41,976
Are you sure you don't
want to recuse yourself?
520
00:26:42,143 --> 00:26:43,686
That's insulting.
521
00:26:43,853 --> 00:26:46,480
I'm personally against abortion
means I can't prosecute a bomber?
522
00:26:46,647 --> 00:26:48,608
What I believe doesn't matter.
523
00:26:48,774 --> 00:26:50,318
I represent the law.
524
00:26:50,484 --> 00:26:51,861
Amazing.
525
00:26:52,028 --> 00:26:53,696
I'm getting angry.
526
00:26:55,197 --> 00:26:57,408
The most emotional issue
527
00:26:57,575 --> 00:27:00,536
that the law has dealt
with since suffrage.
528
00:27:00,703 --> 00:27:03,080
Look at us. Three men…
529
00:27:03,247 --> 00:27:06,250
talking about what
rights women should have
530
00:27:06,417 --> 00:27:07,835
over their own bodies.
531
00:27:08,002 --> 00:27:10,713
Doesn't that strike you
as a little one-sided?
532
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,381
Adam, I have already told you
533
00:27:12,548 --> 00:27:16,385
my personal feelings have no impact
on my ability to prosecute a criminal case.
534
00:27:16,552 --> 00:27:19,680
And I have never said that a woman
does not have the right to choose.
535
00:27:19,847 --> 00:27:21,724
Fine. Wonderful.
536
00:27:23,309 --> 00:27:25,853
Are you feeling shaky
on that conspiracy charge?
537
00:27:27,438 --> 00:27:29,315
You better tie the bomb
maker to the bomber
538
00:27:29,482 --> 00:27:31,275
with a little more than
what you got there.
539
00:27:31,901 --> 00:27:33,444
We prove McClure made the bomb,
540
00:27:33,611 --> 00:27:34,945
Donovan delivered it.
541
00:27:35,112 --> 00:27:36,280
What about Schwimmer?
542
00:27:36,447 --> 00:27:37,448
That's flimsy.
543
00:27:37,615 --> 00:27:41,035
And it's risky. We tie her into
the picture, it doesn't work…
544
00:27:41,202 --> 00:27:43,704
I wouldn't go even for an
indictment with what we got now.
545
00:27:43,871 --> 00:27:47,333
- But?
- It is a conspiracy, and I want to make it stick!
546
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:49,293
Forensics ever send
over a print report?
547
00:27:49,460 --> 00:27:50,753
Finally. There's
another set of prints
548
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,547
along with Mary Donovan's
on that counterfeit ID card.
549
00:27:53,964 --> 00:27:55,216
We don't figure out
who they belong to,
550
00:27:55,383 --> 00:27:57,843
Ballard will say someone
else was in league with Mary.
551
00:27:58,010 --> 00:28:00,179
Get a print work-up on
everybody who knew her.
552
00:28:00,346 --> 00:28:01,764
You argue with
Schiff a lot on this.
553
00:28:01,931 --> 00:28:04,684
- Yeah. Do you agree with him?
- That's not an issue for me.
554
00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:06,852
I'm not for abortion,
I'm for birth control.
555
00:28:07,019 --> 00:28:09,188
- I got your fertilizer.
- Make me happy.
556
00:28:09,355 --> 00:28:11,607
McClure bought one bag
from the same supplier
557
00:28:11,774 --> 00:28:13,693
who sells to the
community garden.
558
00:28:13,859 --> 00:28:16,195
- Ordered it herself.
- She didn't happen to sign…?
559
00:28:17,571 --> 00:28:19,573
You just made me very happy.
560
00:28:20,616 --> 00:28:22,743
The only deal
we're interested in
561
00:28:22,910 --> 00:28:25,162
is you drop everything. Don't
even go to the grand jury.
562
00:28:25,329 --> 00:28:27,832
Put your emotions in your
briefcase for a couple of minutes.
563
00:28:27,998 --> 00:28:30,334
This case is about emotion.
564
00:28:30,501 --> 00:28:33,045
I hope you know your law
better than that, Mr. Ballard.
565
00:28:33,212 --> 00:28:34,547
I know juries are swayed by it.
566
00:28:34,714 --> 00:28:36,924
It's your gamble, Mr. Ballard.
567
00:28:38,217 --> 00:28:41,721
Ms. McClure, you and Mary
Donovan bombed a clinic.
568
00:28:41,887 --> 00:28:44,515
Mary Donovan is
dead and you're not.
569
00:28:55,151 --> 00:28:57,445
She's a nice, young
lady. She made a mistake.
570
00:28:57,611 --> 00:29:00,865
I hope you're not going to let
her take the fall all by herself.
571
00:29:01,031 --> 00:29:03,492
All she has to do is
name who ordered it.
572
00:29:04,618 --> 00:29:07,163
It doesn't matter
what happens to me.
573
00:29:07,705 --> 00:29:09,248
The babies matter.
574
00:29:09,415 --> 00:29:12,585
Arson in the second
degree is a class "B" felony.
575
00:29:12,752 --> 00:29:16,172
I assume Mr. Ballard told you
the sentence if you're convicted?
576
00:29:16,338 --> 00:29:17,465
Six years in jail.
577
00:29:17,631 --> 00:29:20,050
Six years in
prison, Ms. McClure.
578
00:29:22,094 --> 00:29:24,597
May we leave now, Mr. Ballard?
579
00:29:35,858 --> 00:29:37,485
23 years old.
580
00:29:37,651 --> 00:29:40,404
She can't even imagine what
six years of hard time is like.
581
00:29:40,571 --> 00:29:42,573
Somebody's using her.
582
00:29:42,740 --> 00:29:43,908
Schwimmer?
583
00:29:45,159 --> 00:29:46,786
An hour ago, I didn't know,
584
00:29:46,952 --> 00:29:48,370
but now, even money.
585
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:50,873
Still, it usually
doesn't work this way.
586
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,626
Usually the criminal
doesn't want to go to jail.
587
00:29:53,793 --> 00:29:54,752
McClure does.
588
00:29:54,919 --> 00:29:57,546
She'll become a martyr. She'll
never give up on Schwimmer.
589
00:29:57,713 --> 00:29:59,465
She won't give anybody.
590
00:29:59,632 --> 00:30:02,802
Except herself. It's about morality
for her, not legal compromise.
591
00:30:02,968 --> 00:30:04,804
So why don't we
turn this thing around?
592
00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:06,514
Let's try a reverse.
593
00:30:07,181 --> 00:30:10,100
I'm not part of any
conspiracy, Mr. Robinette.
594
00:30:10,267 --> 00:30:12,102
You understand, Ms. Schwimmer,
595
00:30:12,269 --> 00:30:15,105
we're going to request the maximum
sentence for Celeste McClure?
596
00:30:15,272 --> 00:30:17,650
You might ask your
attorney what that means.
597
00:30:17,817 --> 00:30:19,777
First you have to
get a conviction…
598
00:30:20,277 --> 00:30:21,695
With very thin evidence.
599
00:30:21,862 --> 00:30:24,281
Evidence we think a
jury will find convincing.
600
00:30:24,949 --> 00:30:26,784
Celeste McClure
will go to prison
601
00:30:27,535 --> 00:30:28,994
for a long time.
602
00:30:29,537 --> 00:30:32,289
People in this
state would never forget her.
603
00:30:32,748 --> 00:30:35,626
Fine. Make her a martyr.
604
00:30:36,418 --> 00:30:38,838
But Celeste McClure
is a young kid.
605
00:30:39,338 --> 00:30:41,674
Are you going to let
her rot behind bars?
606
00:30:42,675 --> 00:30:46,220
Rose, don't say anything
until we've talked.
607
00:30:47,096 --> 00:30:48,848
This meeting is over.
608
00:30:52,393 --> 00:30:54,228
You never heard
their names mentioned?
609
00:30:54,562 --> 00:30:57,022
Schwimmer or McClure?
610
00:30:57,189 --> 00:30:58,899
Never.
611
00:30:59,692 --> 00:31:01,819
Anything you remember
about the day of the bombing?
612
00:31:01,986 --> 00:31:04,822
Anything you've thought about
since you talked with the police?
613
00:31:05,656 --> 00:31:08,617
Mary said she
was taking the day off…
614
00:31:08,784 --> 00:31:09,869
Shopping.
615
00:31:10,995 --> 00:31:14,456
Patrick, her boyfriend, he
came to drive her to school.
616
00:31:15,791 --> 00:31:18,127
They had an argument outside.
617
00:31:18,544 --> 00:31:20,296
Couples have arguments.
618
00:31:20,462 --> 00:31:22,298
It was serious enough, Jeffrey,
619
00:31:22,464 --> 00:31:23,883
for Kevin to try to break it up.
620
00:31:25,134 --> 00:31:27,887
Your son here that
early in the morning a lot?
621
00:31:28,304 --> 00:31:29,513
He stops
by occasionally.
622
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,265
Not that often.
623
00:31:31,432 --> 00:31:33,267
What was the argument about?
624
00:31:33,434 --> 00:31:35,686
Something Patrick had with him.
625
00:31:35,853 --> 00:31:37,396
Nothing.
626
00:31:37,563 --> 00:31:39,732
- An envelope.
- Nothing?
627
00:31:39,899 --> 00:31:41,901
So why did we hear them yelling?
628
00:31:43,402 --> 00:31:45,613
Our daughter did what she did
629
00:31:45,988 --> 00:31:48,198
out of her own conscience.
630
00:31:49,325 --> 00:31:50,492
We can live with that.
631
00:31:50,659 --> 00:31:52,369
You can live with that, Jeffrey!
632
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,122
A martyr will never
be able to tell me
633
00:31:55,289 --> 00:31:58,042
what a wonderful day she
had at school yesterday.
634
00:31:58,417 --> 00:32:00,210
A martyr will never
have a wedding.
635
00:32:00,377 --> 00:32:02,546
A martyr will never
have children.
636
00:32:08,761 --> 00:32:10,679
I wanted to go to Barbados.
637
00:32:10,846 --> 00:32:13,265
I brought her a brochure.
638
00:32:13,432 --> 00:32:15,434
I thought it would convince her.
639
00:32:16,727 --> 00:32:18,062
That's what was in the envelope.
640
00:32:18,228 --> 00:32:20,606
- That's all it was about?
- Her parents…
641
00:32:22,733 --> 00:32:24,443
She felt it would look bad
642
00:32:24,610 --> 00:32:27,112
if we went together not married.
643
00:32:28,405 --> 00:32:31,492
She said I was being
insensitive to their feelings.
644
00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:36,413
I had it all planned.
645
00:32:37,289 --> 00:32:38,916
A romantic place…
646
00:32:40,084 --> 00:32:41,919
It's stupid.
647
00:32:42,086 --> 00:32:44,713
I guess I felt I needed
the right setting.
648
00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:48,467
I was going to ask
her to marry me.
649
00:32:54,306 --> 00:32:55,599
It wasn't that big a fight.
650
00:32:55,766 --> 00:32:57,351
So why did you get involved?
651
00:32:57,518 --> 00:32:59,144
I went out to talk to them.
652
00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:00,813
Your mother heard you yelling.
653
00:33:01,397 --> 00:33:03,399
Patrick said your
sister was upset.
654
00:33:03,565 --> 00:33:05,067
There was no fight.
655
00:33:05,234 --> 00:33:07,361
You're lying, Kevin!
What are you gonna do?
656
00:33:07,528 --> 00:33:09,321
You want to charge me
with the bombing of the clinic?
657
00:33:09,488 --> 00:33:12,825
You can count on it, if I find
you're covering up a crime.
658
00:33:15,577 --> 00:33:17,997
I don't know anything
about the bombing.
659
00:33:24,086 --> 00:33:25,754
We'll call you if we need you.
660
00:33:28,257 --> 00:33:30,342
The Donovan ID?
The other fingerprints?
661
00:33:30,509 --> 00:33:32,428
Got a match? Just
came in from Washington.
662
00:33:32,594 --> 00:33:34,013
He'd been in the army.
663
00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:36,223
- Who?
- The boyfriend…
664
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,267
Patrick Dunn.
665
00:33:40,686 --> 00:33:42,980
By themselves, the
fingerprints aren't proof.
666
00:33:43,147 --> 00:33:45,607
She could have
shown him the card…
667
00:33:45,774 --> 00:33:48,736
without telling him she was
gonna use it to plant a bomb.
668
00:33:48,902 --> 00:33:50,404
We need something else.
669
00:33:50,571 --> 00:33:52,740
Yeah. The brother has a story,
670
00:33:52,906 --> 00:33:54,324
boyfriend another.
671
00:33:55,534 --> 00:33:58,871
What about if we arrest Patrick
672
00:33:59,038 --> 00:34:00,831
as a co-conspirator?
673
00:34:00,998 --> 00:34:02,833
Based on the prints?
674
00:34:03,542 --> 00:34:05,711
I don't want him arraigned
if you don't think he's guilty.
675
00:34:05,878 --> 00:34:08,130
I don't know if he's guilty,
but let's arrest him anyway,
676
00:34:08,297 --> 00:34:10,507
not arraign him till tomorrow,
put him in a room with Kevin…
677
00:34:10,674 --> 00:34:13,260
- And see what shakes loose.
- Yeah.
678
00:34:13,427 --> 00:34:15,554
The charge is arson
and conspiracy.
679
00:34:15,721 --> 00:34:17,723
I'm not involved
in that bombing.
680
00:34:17,890 --> 00:34:19,850
You can call your
lawyer in a few minutes.
681
00:34:22,352 --> 00:34:24,605
This is unbelievable.
682
00:34:25,856 --> 00:34:27,524
What's he doing here?
683
00:34:28,025 --> 00:34:29,276
Is he being arrested too?
684
00:34:29,443 --> 00:34:30,944
Arrested? Mary's false ID card.
685
00:34:31,111 --> 00:34:32,571
Patrick's fingerprints are on it.
686
00:34:32,738 --> 00:34:34,948
Did you get it for her so
she could do the bombing?
687
00:34:35,115 --> 00:34:36,867
Makes you co-conspirator.
688
00:34:38,077 --> 00:34:39,495
I'm not going to jail, Kevin.
689
00:34:40,287 --> 00:34:41,580
I can prove I wasn't involved.
690
00:34:41,747 --> 00:34:42,748
Mary wasn't involved either.
691
00:34:42,915 --> 00:34:44,625
Shut up! Shut up!
692
00:34:44,958 --> 00:34:45,459
Hey!
693
00:34:53,842 --> 00:34:55,219
All he wanted was
for her to be a martyr
694
00:34:55,385 --> 00:34:56,470
instead of a sinner.
695
00:34:57,638 --> 00:34:59,515
She didn't go there
to bomb the clinic.
696
00:35:01,266 --> 00:35:02,851
She was pregnant.
697
00:35:04,478 --> 00:35:06,522
She was there to
have an abortion.
698
00:35:06,688 --> 00:35:09,441
She was there to kill our baby.
699
00:35:16,156 --> 00:35:17,699
She was ashamed.
700
00:35:18,617 --> 00:35:19,910
She thought if her
parents found out…
701
00:35:20,077 --> 00:35:22,412
You wanted to marry her. That
would have solved everything.
702
00:35:22,579 --> 00:35:23,872
It doesn't matter.
703
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:26,708
The baby comes
early, everybody knows.
704
00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:29,878
So, under a false name
she'd have an abortion.
705
00:35:30,587 --> 00:35:31,713
That morning
706
00:35:32,172 --> 00:35:34,299
I gave her the ID and the money
707
00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:35,634
so that she could…
708
00:35:37,845 --> 00:35:40,722
I pleaded with her to
at least let me take her.
709
00:35:41,098 --> 00:35:42,891
I pleaded.
710
00:35:46,019 --> 00:35:48,063
With arson you
could be a martyr.
711
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:50,524
With conspiracy you
could still be a martyr.
712
00:35:50,899 --> 00:35:54,528
But Ms. McClure, now… Now
we are talking about murder.
713
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,116
I didn't kill anybody.
714
00:35:59,283 --> 00:36:01,451
Mary Donovan did
not get hit by a car.
715
00:36:01,618 --> 00:36:03,370
Tell her, Mr. Ballard.
716
00:36:07,207 --> 00:36:10,294
It's not six years
in jail anymore.
717
00:36:10,794 --> 00:36:12,087
You'll never
get her for manslaughter.
718
00:36:12,254 --> 00:36:15,132
Manslaughter? We are now talking
about murder in the second degree…
719
00:36:15,299 --> 00:36:16,884
Depraved indifference
to human life.
720
00:36:17,050 --> 00:36:17,926
You're out of your mind.
721
00:36:18,093 --> 00:36:20,429
15 years
to life behind bars.
722
00:36:20,596 --> 00:36:22,723
I don't want to
put you in prison,
723
00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:24,892
but somebody
killed Mary Donovan.
724
00:36:25,058 --> 00:36:27,936
An innocent woman
died. That is murder.
725
00:36:28,103 --> 00:36:30,230
That makes you no better
than the people you oppose.
726
00:36:30,397 --> 00:36:32,232
Counselor, she's a kid.
727
00:36:32,399 --> 00:36:33,984
You said so yourself.
728
00:36:36,737 --> 00:36:38,989
Mary Donovan was a kid, too.
729
00:36:39,156 --> 00:36:40,741
Ask her parents.
730
00:36:46,872 --> 00:36:49,374
She pleads on all three
counts outstanding.
731
00:36:49,541 --> 00:36:51,084
You recommend minimum sentences.
732
00:36:51,251 --> 00:36:53,754
She testifies against nobody.
733
00:36:53,921 --> 00:36:57,341
If this was Schwimmer's
idea, she testifies against her.
734
00:36:57,507 --> 00:36:59,593
We drop down to
conspiracy six, arson four.
735
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,095
She pleads to criminally
negligent homicide.
736
00:37:02,262 --> 00:37:03,430
She does six months.
737
00:37:05,557 --> 00:37:07,100
Celeste, do you understand?
738
00:37:09,895 --> 00:37:12,147
If I thought anyone
would get hurt,
739
00:37:12,314 --> 00:37:14,775
I wouldn't have
given Rose the bomb.
740
00:37:16,610 --> 00:37:19,154
The charges here are
conspiracy in the second degree,
741
00:37:19,321 --> 00:37:22,699
arson in the second degree,
murder in the second degree.
742
00:37:22,866 --> 00:37:24,826
Does the defendant
wish to enter a plea?
743
00:37:24,993 --> 00:37:26,245
Not guilty, Your Honor.
744
00:37:26,411 --> 00:37:29,164
If it pleases the court,
we're requesting bail.
745
00:37:29,331 --> 00:37:30,415
Mr. Stone?
746
00:37:30,582 --> 00:37:33,752
Ms. Schwimmer has been
convicted of several misdemeanors,
747
00:37:33,919 --> 00:37:35,254
and has made every
court appearance,
748
00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:36,630
however, in our experience,
749
00:37:36,797 --> 00:37:39,174
activists accused of
more serious crimes
750
00:37:39,341 --> 00:37:41,260
have sometimes decided
to work for their cause
751
00:37:41,426 --> 00:37:43,804
from behind the
scenes… Far behind.
752
00:37:43,971 --> 00:37:45,931
Therefore, the people recommend
753
00:37:46,098 --> 00:37:47,516
the defendant be
held without bail.
754
00:37:47,683 --> 00:37:51,270
Your Honor, there's no reason to
believe the defendant is a flight risk.
755
00:37:51,436 --> 00:37:53,563
Mr. Stone, I'm inclined
to agree with Mr. Malloy.
756
00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:57,192
What applies generally may not
apply specifically to this defendant.
757
00:37:57,359 --> 00:37:58,652
I understand.
758
00:37:58,819 --> 00:38:00,654
But this is a
homicide, Mr. Malloy,
759
00:38:00,821 --> 00:38:03,282
with two additional
felony charges.
760
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:06,451
Bail is set at…
761
00:38:06,618 --> 00:38:08,787
$300,000.
762
00:38:11,498 --> 00:38:13,333
Regardless of
your personal feelings,
763
00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:16,169
you are not being asked
to decide a moral issue.
764
00:38:16,336 --> 00:38:18,964
You are being asked
to decide a legal issue.
765
00:38:19,131 --> 00:38:21,300
The crime is the murder
of a young woman
766
00:38:21,466 --> 00:38:23,385
by an exploding bomb.
767
00:38:23,552 --> 00:38:26,054
And that woman,
Ms. Rose Schwimmer,
768
00:38:26,221 --> 00:38:28,140
is accused of placing a bomb
769
00:38:28,307 --> 00:38:31,268
with depraved
indifference to human life…
770
00:38:31,435 --> 00:38:33,937
Indifference to
anyone it might hurt.
771
00:38:34,563 --> 00:38:39,192
You may hear the arguments
that the ends justify the means,
772
00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:41,987
that an illegal act
is somehow justified
773
00:38:42,154 --> 00:38:43,363
by a moral cause.
774
00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:46,241
If you're even tempted to
agree with that argument,
775
00:38:46,408 --> 00:38:47,743
please remember,
776
00:38:47,909 --> 00:38:50,579
killing is not only
against the law,
777
00:38:50,746 --> 00:38:52,706
it is also immoral.
778
00:38:53,332 --> 00:38:54,875
And if anyone suggests to you
779
00:38:55,042 --> 00:38:57,419
that morality and law
are somehow in conflict,
780
00:38:57,586 --> 00:38:59,463
I ask you to remember that.
781
00:39:00,672 --> 00:39:02,966
Is fertilizer
and diesel fuel
782
00:39:03,133 --> 00:39:04,885
a commonly known explosive?
783
00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:07,471
They blow mountains
apart with it.
784
00:39:07,637 --> 00:39:10,057
Did you find actual
pieces of the bomb?
785
00:39:10,223 --> 00:39:11,808
That's correct. Fragments of it
786
00:39:11,975 --> 00:39:14,019
were coated with the
fertilizer compound.
787
00:39:14,186 --> 00:39:16,938
Did you make a comparison
between that compound
788
00:39:17,105 --> 00:39:19,566
and the fertilizer taken
from the community garden?
789
00:39:19,733 --> 00:39:21,610
- I did.
- What were the results?
790
00:39:21,777 --> 00:39:23,403
They were chemically identical.
791
00:39:23,570 --> 00:39:26,031
Thank you. No further
questions, Your Honor.
792
00:39:26,448 --> 00:39:27,991
Mr. Oliver,
793
00:39:28,325 --> 00:39:30,452
is the chemical in the
fertilizer in question
794
00:39:30,619 --> 00:39:33,580
available as a chemical other
than in that particular fertilizer?
795
00:39:34,081 --> 00:39:37,834
Yes. Other manufacturers
make the same formulation.
796
00:39:38,001 --> 00:39:40,712
And is it also available just
as a chemical compound
797
00:39:40,879 --> 00:39:42,881
that has nothing
to do with fertilizer?
798
00:39:43,799 --> 00:39:44,966
Yes.
799
00:39:45,133 --> 00:39:49,054
So the nitrate in the bomb could
have come from somewhere else?
800
00:39:49,221 --> 00:39:51,515
It's remotely possible.
One in a million.
801
00:39:51,681 --> 00:39:54,017
Thank you. No more questions.
802
00:39:54,643 --> 00:39:56,770
Demanding police
protection for abortion clinics,
803
00:39:56,937 --> 00:39:59,272
an estimated 10,000
pro-choice demonstrators
804
00:39:59,439 --> 00:40:00,732
marched down 10th Avenue.
805
00:40:02,818 --> 00:40:04,528
It's only going to get worse.
806
00:40:05,153 --> 00:40:07,364
Luckily, that ain't my problem.
807
00:40:09,408 --> 00:40:11,284
We're willing to
consider a plea.
808
00:40:11,451 --> 00:40:13,078
Manslaughter two.
809
00:40:13,245 --> 00:40:15,872
Mary Donovan was
the perfect martyr.
810
00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:17,791
You should have
left it that way.
811
00:40:17,958 --> 00:40:20,419
And you, hiding
behind a dead woman?
812
00:40:20,585 --> 00:40:22,629
I don't think the
jury will like that.
813
00:40:22,796 --> 00:40:25,966
Mary Donovan was
ready to kill her baby.
814
00:40:26,133 --> 00:40:28,510
Will the jury like
that any better?
815
00:40:28,677 --> 00:40:31,138
Mary Donovan
is not on trial here.
816
00:40:31,596 --> 00:40:33,223
She will be.
817
00:40:34,057 --> 00:40:36,101
She conspired to commit murder.
818
00:40:38,562 --> 00:40:41,231
Are you admitting that
Mary didn't plant the bomb?
819
00:40:46,653 --> 00:40:50,031
In this state, capital
punishment is against the law.
820
00:40:51,324 --> 00:40:54,369
Yet, you're ready to risk your
own form of capital punishment
821
00:40:54,536 --> 00:40:56,788
against people you
consider deserving of it?
822
00:40:56,955 --> 00:40:58,832
They do deserve it.
823
00:40:58,999 --> 00:41:01,376
This isn't getting us anywhere.
824
00:41:01,877 --> 00:41:03,128
Come on, Rose.
825
00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:10,177
Ms. Schwimmer?
826
00:41:12,429 --> 00:41:14,848
I think you should reconsider.
827
00:41:15,515 --> 00:41:18,101
I don't make
deals with the devil.
828
00:41:25,775 --> 00:41:26,818
Two and
a half months ago,
829
00:41:26,985 --> 00:41:28,612
did Ms. McClure
come into your store
830
00:41:28,778 --> 00:41:30,280
and place her usual order?
831
00:41:30,447 --> 00:41:31,656
Yes, she did.
832
00:41:31,823 --> 00:41:33,700
Did she add
anything unusual to it?
833
00:41:33,867 --> 00:41:35,952
Objection. Characterization.
834
00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:37,245
Sustained.
835
00:41:38,163 --> 00:41:40,290
Did Ms. McClure's
purchases include
836
00:41:40,457 --> 00:41:42,918
anything she did not
make on a regular basis?
837
00:41:43,084 --> 00:41:46,671
Yes. A 50-pound
bag of fertilizer
838
00:41:46,838 --> 00:41:48,840
with a special nitrate formula.
839
00:41:49,007 --> 00:41:50,634
Did that strike you as strange?
840
00:41:51,718 --> 00:41:54,221
It's used mostly for palm trees.
841
00:41:54,554 --> 00:41:56,598
I told her it would
kill her plants.
842
00:41:56,765 --> 00:41:59,142
I had to special order it.
843
00:41:59,309 --> 00:42:01,186
On that day when Ms.
McClure ordered the fertilizer,
844
00:42:01,353 --> 00:42:03,146
was anyone with her?
845
00:42:03,313 --> 00:42:04,397
Yes.
846
00:42:04,564 --> 00:42:06,775
Is that person in
this courtroom?
847
00:42:06,942 --> 00:42:07,734
Yes.
848
00:42:07,901 --> 00:42:10,445
Would you point that
person out for the jury?
849
00:42:11,863 --> 00:42:13,782
She's sitting right over there.
850
00:42:13,949 --> 00:42:15,408
You Honor,
may the record show
851
00:42:15,575 --> 00:42:17,661
that she's pointing
to the defendant?
852
00:42:17,827 --> 00:42:20,288
Let the
record so indicate.
853
00:42:22,707 --> 00:42:24,209
Rose said…
854
00:42:25,043 --> 00:42:28,213
talking, marching…
855
00:42:28,838 --> 00:42:31,383
it wasn't stopping
the abortions.
856
00:42:32,384 --> 00:42:34,052
She was right.
857
00:42:34,761 --> 00:42:38,056
Every day, more babies
were being murdered.
858
00:42:38,223 --> 00:42:39,849
Did Ms. Schwimmer
talk about the bombings
859
00:42:40,016 --> 00:42:42,102
in front of the other
members of Women for Life?
860
00:42:43,687 --> 00:42:45,772
She said they
wouldn't understand.
861
00:42:47,816 --> 00:42:49,484
And…
862
00:42:51,319 --> 00:42:53,822
that if it was
just the two of us,
863
00:42:54,364 --> 00:42:56,366
nobody would find out.
864
00:42:56,533 --> 00:42:58,743
When did you give Ms.
Schwimmer the bomb?
865
00:43:00,161 --> 00:43:02,622
I met her for
brunch that morning,
866
00:43:03,290 --> 00:43:04,916
at Lazy Jane's
867
00:43:05,083 --> 00:43:06,710
on 7th Avenue.
868
00:43:06,876 --> 00:43:09,212
Tell the jury
what happened then.
869
00:43:10,755 --> 00:43:12,382
Ms. McClure?
870
00:43:15,135 --> 00:43:16,636
Rose…
871
00:43:16,803 --> 00:43:19,347
said she would go
out the back door.
872
00:43:20,181 --> 00:43:22,017
It's next to the ladies room.
873
00:43:23,977 --> 00:43:25,604
She said…
874
00:43:25,770 --> 00:43:27,480
she could get down the alley
875
00:43:27,647 --> 00:43:30,734
and back within 10 minutes.
876
00:43:31,860 --> 00:43:34,404
She told me to
wait for five minutes,
877
00:43:34,779 --> 00:43:36,781
and then call the
clinic and warn them.
878
00:43:36,948 --> 00:43:38,658
Did you make the call?
879
00:43:38,825 --> 00:43:39,743
Yes.
880
00:43:39,909 --> 00:43:41,911
Your Honor, I would
like to enter into evidence
881
00:43:42,078 --> 00:43:44,289
telephone company
records showing calls
882
00:43:44,456 --> 00:43:46,166
made from the pay phone
883
00:43:46,333 --> 00:43:49,753
of the Lazy Jane Restaurant
on the day of the bombing.
884
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,923
No further questions,
Your Honor.
885
00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:01,765
Is defense ready
for its summation?
886
00:44:01,931 --> 00:44:04,142
Your Honor, at this time,
887
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:06,353
against advice of counsel,
888
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:09,522
the defendant wishes to
testify in her own behalf.
889
00:44:09,689 --> 00:44:11,191
Ms. Schwimmer,
890
00:44:11,358 --> 00:44:14,319
you realize you'll be
subject to cross-examination?
891
00:44:14,486 --> 00:44:15,945
I do, Your Honor.
892
00:44:16,112 --> 00:44:17,781
I urge you to reconsider.
893
00:44:17,947 --> 00:44:20,116
Listen to advice of counsel.
894
00:44:20,659 --> 00:44:23,912
However, I won't prevent
you from testifying.
895
00:44:40,637 --> 00:44:42,889
Do you swear to tell the
truth, so help you God?
896
00:44:43,056 --> 00:44:45,141
I certainly do.
897
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,145
Ms. Schwimmer,
898
00:44:49,521 --> 00:44:52,232
did you conspire
with Celeste McClure
899
00:44:52,732 --> 00:44:55,068
to bomb the Chelsea
Women's Choice Center,
900
00:44:55,235 --> 00:44:57,445
as well as seven
other abortion clinics?
901
00:44:57,612 --> 00:44:59,197
Yes, I did.
902
00:45:01,825 --> 00:45:04,494
Then you're guilty of the
charges leveled against you?
903
00:45:05,495 --> 00:45:07,122
Not before God.
904
00:45:07,288 --> 00:45:09,416
Can you explain why
you're innocent before God?
905
00:45:09,582 --> 00:45:13,253
Objection, this case is being judged
on the temporal plane, Your Honor.
906
00:45:13,420 --> 00:45:14,045
Sustained.
907
00:45:14,212 --> 00:45:16,589
How dare you object, Mr. Stone?
908
00:45:16,756 --> 00:45:19,217
We've done our homework.
You were baptized.
909
00:45:19,384 --> 00:45:22,595
- You go to communion, and you prosecute me?!
- That's enough.
910
00:45:22,762 --> 00:45:25,557
All the abortions in that clinic
are murder, and you know it.
911
00:45:25,724 --> 00:45:27,767
- Your Honor?
- It must stop!
912
00:45:27,934 --> 00:45:30,019
Mary Donovan's death was tragic,
913
00:45:30,186 --> 00:45:34,315
But if it prevents one abortion,
the scales are balanced.
914
00:45:34,482 --> 00:45:35,900
Abortion must end!
915
00:45:36,067 --> 00:45:38,194
- Ms. Schwimmer, that will be all!
- Are we a nation
916
00:45:38,361 --> 00:45:41,448
who can tolerate the
abortionist sticking his hand
917
00:45:41,614 --> 00:45:44,242
in a mother's womb and
strangling God's creation?
918
00:45:44,409 --> 00:45:46,619
The court officer will
remove Ms. Schwimmer!
919
00:45:46,786 --> 00:45:49,873
Your Honor, I have only one
question to ask of the defendant.
920
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:51,332
Which is?
921
00:45:52,459 --> 00:45:55,628
If abortion is murder, no matter
how you feel about Mary Donovan,
922
00:45:55,795 --> 00:45:58,173
aren't you guilty of the
murder of her unborn child?
923
00:46:16,649 --> 00:46:18,693
On the first
count in the indictment,
924
00:46:18,860 --> 00:46:20,904
the charge of conspiracy
in the second degree,
925
00:46:21,070 --> 00:46:22,197
how do you find?
926
00:46:22,822 --> 00:46:24,741
We find the defendant guilty.
927
00:46:26,743 --> 00:46:28,036
On the second count,
928
00:46:28,828 --> 00:46:31,122
the charge of arson
in the second degree,
929
00:46:31,289 --> 00:46:32,123
how do you find?
930
00:46:32,916 --> 00:46:34,626
We find the defendant guilty.
931
00:46:35,877 --> 00:46:38,630
The third count, murder
in the second degree,
932
00:46:38,797 --> 00:46:42,759
- how do you find?
- We find the defendant guilty.
933
00:46:49,265 --> 00:46:50,475
What do we say to people
934
00:46:50,642 --> 00:46:53,770
who know she committed a criminal
act, but don't think she's a criminal?
935
00:46:53,937 --> 00:46:57,148
That's easy. A criminal is someone
who commits a criminal act…
936
00:46:57,315 --> 00:46:57,982
For any reason.
937
00:46:58,149 --> 00:47:01,194
But up until Roe v. Wade, the
abortionists were the criminals.
938
00:47:01,361 --> 00:47:03,738
If the law hadn't changed, there
never would have been a bombing.
939
00:47:03,905 --> 00:47:06,241
If the law hadn't
changed, I'd be a slave.
940
00:47:06,407 --> 00:47:08,243
You can't turn back the clock.
70401
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