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[narrator] The search for
the Gilgo Beach serial killer
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dragged on for 13 long years.
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But it didn't
have to be that way.
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[Dave Schaller] It wasn't
The Amazing Kreskin came in
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and figured this [bleep] out.
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It was, on paper, 13 years.
It's sickening.
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[narrator] Eleven bodies
dumped in a five-mile radius.
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Rex Heuermann has been charged
with murdering three.
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If he is the serial killer,
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it's likely he murdered more.
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[Dr. Phil McGraw] This is
kind of an addictive aspect.
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They just have to
act on that impulse.
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[narrator] Cops had clues
for more than a decade
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that would have led them
to Heuermann's doorstep.
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But those clues were ignored.
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I gave them
the guy's description,
down to his beady-ass eyes.
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They had everything they needed.
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[narrator] Some women
who encountered Heuermann
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knew what was up.
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[Nikkie Brass]
I told people for years,
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I had dinner with
the Gilgo Beach killer.
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[narrator] Yet authorities
turned a blind eye,
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in large part
because of the top cop.
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[John Ray] He was
morally, sexually corrupt.
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He was a pervert, and he was
the one running the show.
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[narrator] The tragic reality:
the bungling,
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the corruption,
the missed clues,
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may have spiked the body count.
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[Dr. Scott Bonn] He may
well have a burial ground
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that has yet to be discovered.
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[narrator] It's a travesty of
justice
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with fatal consequences.
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TMZ Investigates:
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Gilgo Beach Serial Murders:
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Missed Warning Signs.
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[eerie music playing]
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[Rodney Harrison] Rex Heuermann
is a demon that walks among us.
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[♪]
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A predator that ruined families.
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If not for the members
of this task force...
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he would still be
on the streets today.
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[reporter]
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[narrator] On July 13th,
59-year-old Rex Heuermann
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was arrested and charged
with murdering three women
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found dead on Gilgo Beach
on New York's Long Island
back in 2010.
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The skeletal remains were found
in this shallow grave.
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[narrator] It was a mystery
that haunted a community
for more than a decade,
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and it should have
never taken that long.
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[Rob Trotta] It seems to me
this should've been solved
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in the first three months,
rather than 13 years later.
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I really, really feel bad
if-- if this person went out
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and killed other people
during this time,
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and, you know,
we dropped the ball.
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I gave them the
[bleep] guy's description
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down to his beady-ass eyes.
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His size, height, weight.
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Everything. Hair color,
[bleep], you name it.
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They had everything they needed.
They had everything.
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[narrator]
The victims: Megan Waterman,
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Melissa Barthelemy,
and Amber Costello.
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Heuermann is also
the prime suspect
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in the murder
of Maureen Brainard-Barnes.
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They're known
as the Gilgo Four.
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There were four bodies
that had been disposed of
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in a similar fashion in
the thicket in a very isolated,
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desolate area
there on Long Island.
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It was obvious that we were
dealing with a serial killer.
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[♪]
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[narrator] And there's
another common thread:
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all of them were sex workers.
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[♪]
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There were a total of 11 bodies
found within a five-mile radius.
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Authorities dismissed
some as unrelated.
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But not everyone is buying that.
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There's also
the distinct possibility
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that we're looking at
a serial killer who evolved.
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One who went from dismemberment
to one who simply said,
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"I'm going to leave these bodies
wrapped in burlap
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because it's simply
an easier thing to do."
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[♪]
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[dispatcher] State police.
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[narrator] 24-year-old
Shannan Gilbert
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was not one of the Gilgo Four,
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but her mysterious
disappearance back in 2010
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led cops to discover
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there was a serial killer
on the loose.
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[narrator] Early in the morning
of May 1st,
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Shannan, a sex worker,
makes a 22-minute 911 call
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from a client's home
near Gilgo Beach,
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claiming she's in big trouble.
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[narrator]
Toward the end of the call,
Shannan takes off running,
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her phone
still connected to 911.
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[phone line crackling]
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[Shannan screaming]
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[phone line crackling]
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[Shannan panting]
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[narrator]
She's never heard from again.
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[melancholy music playing]
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[narrator] Seven months later,
on December 11th, 2010,
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a Suffolk County officer
and his search dog
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are looking for
Shannan's body on Gilgo Beach,
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not far from the last place
Shannan was seen.
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[mysterious music playing]
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Just a few feet
off Ocean Parkway,
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they make a gruesome discovery.
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It's not Shannan.
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It's the body
of Melissa Barthelemy.
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Two days later,
three more bodies are found:
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Maureen Brainard-Barnes,
Megan Waterman,
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and Amber Lynn Costello.
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As the months passed,
things get even worse.
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Seven more bodies
are found within
a five-mile radius of beach,
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11 in total.
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Eight of them
female sex workers.
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The last body found:
Shannan Gilbert's,
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19 months after she made
that chilling call.
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All that was left
were skeletal remains.
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It's all along a stretch of land
which is a--
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sort of an enlarged cemetery
for sex workers.
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Cops say Shannan
may have drowned,
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and possibly been under
the influence of something.
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But her family
believes she was murdered.
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Everything Shannan did that
night was perfectly rational,
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and look at the consequence.
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What happened to her
is exactly what she predicted
was about to happen to her.
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[Charles Latibeaudiere]
Here's the enraging thing.
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During the 13 years
the case went nowhere,
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other women
may have been murdered,
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because serial killers
typically have uncontainable,
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murderous tendencies.
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Some of these people do stop
for periods of time,
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but the chance
that he went dormant
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for that long
a period of time, 13 years,
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is a very low probability.
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It-- it-- it boggles my mind.
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I hope to God
that their incompetence
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didn't cause someone else
to lose their life,
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because that would be
a horrible, horrible thing
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for them to live with,
to anybody to live with.
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Because this really,
clearly, should've been
solved right away.
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[narrator] Coming up...
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[Dr. Bonn] They are able to
seamlessly flip a switch,
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go from husband and father
to sadistic killer,
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and they can do it
without any sort of shame.
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My father
called me that morning,
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and said, "Hey, you know,
that guy, the serial killer
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that we used to joke about?"
And I said, "Yeah."
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He goes,
"He's actually a serial killer."
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[♪]
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[dramatic music playing]
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[reporter]
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[narrator] Rex Heuermann
was arrested in July
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at his architecture office
in Manhattan.
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He has pled not guilty
to multiple murder charges.
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But if he is the serial killer,
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he was living
an insane double life
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in plain sight
for a long, long time.
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-Rex, hi.
-Hello!
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-How you doing?
-Good to see you.
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Likewise. Hope you don't mind
I brought my assistant with me.
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-Norman.
-[Heuermann] Hello, Norman.
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[narrator]
In this 2022 interview,
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Rex seems normal.
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Hard to believe this man
could be a ruthless killer.
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What do you think is
the most important qualities
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a person in your position
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-dealing with the job must have?
-Patience.
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What has this job
taught you about yourself?
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I think it's taught me more
about how to understand people.
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[mysterious music playing]
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[narrator] On many levels,
Heuermann seemed
like a regular guy.
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A college graduate,
married to his second wife,
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Asa Ellerup, for 27 years.
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He raised two kids,
a daughter and a stepson,
both adults now.
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That was one life.
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But cops say his other life
was steeped in evil.
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He's definitely somebody
that should not be out
in the public,
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and being involved
with other human beings.
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It is a Jekyll and Hyde,
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and I think we have
enough information now,
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sadly, tragically,
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about serial killers,
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that had done exactly
what we're describing here,
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living parallel lives.
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-It's...
-Selfie time!
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Selfie time.
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You're fast.
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Ready? One, two, three.
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Ah!
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-Can you smile?
-That is!
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[laughing]
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[Dr. Bonn] What these
individuals are able to do,
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they are able to seamlessly
flip a switch,
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and go from family man,
go from husband and father,
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to sadistic killer.
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And they can do it
without any sort of shame,
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guilt, angst.
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No sense of right and wrong.
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[narrator] So sadistic,
he allegedly called
Melissa Barthelemy's sister
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to taunt her
from Melissa's phone.
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When she was missing for a few
days, and then the phone rang,
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and it said, "Melissa,"
like, from her phone,
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and Amanda, the sister, said,
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"Melissa, where have you been?
We've been looking for you!"
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And then she heard that voice,
of the killer.
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When you're seeing an offender
reach out to family members
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that are already suffering
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and call them over
and over and over
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to increase their suffering,
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you have someone who enjoys
watching people suffer.
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And that's exactly
what we have here.
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[eerie music playing]
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[narrator]
When Heuermann was arrested,
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some of his neighbors
weren't all that surprised.
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My father actually called me
that morning and said,
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"Hey, you know that guy,
the serial killer
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that we used to joke about?"
And I said, "Yeah."
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He goes,
"He's actually a serial killer."
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[narrator] People who
knew Heuermann for years,
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since childhood,
say he was always an outcast.
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[John Parisi] He was very
strange, he was very smart,
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but he didn't have many friends,
and he was very much to himself.
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He was a loner.
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Rex was bullied and teased
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for the way he appeared.
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If you dig deep enough,
you'll find, somewhere,
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somewhere in the background,
something triggered them,
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some anger,
some unresolved conflict
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that they're acting out
against these victims.
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Over the years, Rex Heuermann
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showed aggression
in different ways.
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He filed multiple lawsuits,
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claiming he'd been hit by cars.
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And here's what's so puzzling.
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If he is the serial killer,
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why would he draw that
kind of attention to himself?
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[Dr. Bonn]
The fact that Rex Heuermann
may have been involved
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in a number of legal cases
where he was suing folks,
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that would indicate
someone who is so narcissistic,
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things have to go his way,
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and wanting control
and domination of others.
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They look at it from
only their point of view,
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and they're so arrogant,
they think,
"I'm above the law.
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Nobody's gonna look at me,
nobody's gonna catch me.
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I'm a respected architect,
I know what I'm doing.
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People think I'm,
you know, a big deal here.
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They'll never suspect me."
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And sadly, in many cases,
that turns out to be right.
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[narrator] In March of 2022,
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authorities finally
zeroed in on Heuermann,
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and the walls
started to close in.
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Where we'd get his internet
searches, he was making inquiry
256
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with regard to the Gilgo
investigation over 200 times.
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He was also doing
a lot of searches
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with regard to
a lot of torture porn
259
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and other
rather disturbing searches.
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[narrator]
Heuermann was also googling
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family members of the victims,
including a child.
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Cell phone records
put Heuermann in proximity
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to all four victims.
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Authorities used DNA
from a discarded pizza crust
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to match Heuermann to hair
found on one of the victims.
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We looked at travel records,
and were able to establish
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that the wife and the children
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were out of the state
during the time
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of the commission
of those crimes.
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[narrator] After his arrest
on July 13th,
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cops spent 12 days
searching Heuermann's home,
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digging up his yard.
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No bodies, but they unearthed
a boatload of evidence,
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including nearly 300 firearms.
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And here's a chilling detail.
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Heuermann also owns properties
in Las Vegas and South Carolina.
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Investigators want to know,
in the 13 years
the case went unsolved,
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did the accused
Gilgo serial killer
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murder way beyond
the confines of his hometown?
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[Errol Toulon] Not only
are we worried about other lives
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being lost, not only here in
Suffolk County but, you know,
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we're looking at South Carolina,
we're looking at Las Vegas,
283
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we're looking at anywhere
Rex Heuermann might have been.
284
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You can't assume
in a situation like this
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that you have found
all these victims.
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This person
traveled out of state.
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He had places in other locales.
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For anyone to assume
that this person killed
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all these people
and then stopped in 2010,
290
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I don't believe that.
291
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There was critical evidence
292
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sitting right in
Rex Heuermann's driveway,
293
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evidence that
went unnoticed by cops
294
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for more than a decade.
295
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Evidence that could've
put him in cuffs
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and spared other women
their lives.
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And one of the reasons
cops dropped the ball
is mind-blowing.
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[narrator] Coming up,
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a major piece
of evidence ignored.
300
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It wasn't The Amazing Kreskin
came in and figured
this [bleep] out.
301
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It was on paper for
[bleep] 13 years, you know?
It's sickening.
302
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[narrator] Plus, the top cop
who may have derailed
the investigation
303
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for very personal reasons.
304
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He was morally,
sexually corrupt.
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He was a pervert.
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[♪]
307
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[dramatic music playing]
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[narrator] Rex Heuermann
lived his life,
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walked the streets,
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and possibly continued
his alleged murderous rampage
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undetected for 13 long years.
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A lot of people say
it didn't have to be that way.
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From the pieces
I've put together,
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you know,
this is Investigations 101.
315
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Turns out, a major clue
was missed early on.
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A clue that eventually
cracked the case,
317
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and it was either ignored
or deliberately pushed aside
318
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for all those years.
319
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It came from a man
named Dave Schaller.
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This guy just screamed "freak,"
you know what I mean?
321
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Like, everything about him.
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[narrator]
Schaller was roommates with
one of the Gilgo Four victims,
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Amber Costello.
324
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A few weeks
before Amber vanished,
325
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Schaller had a violent
encounter with a man
326
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who had hired Amber for
a lap dance in their home.
327
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A man he says
was Rex Heuermann.
328
00:18:16,463 --> 00:18:19,633
I was out. She calls me, and
it was like, the guy, you know,
329
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didn't wanna take no
for an answer,
330
00:18:21,401 --> 00:18:23,770
and started grab-assing
on her, you know?
331
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And was basically, you know,
trying to pull her down
332
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to-- you know, to rape her.
333
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So, came flying
back to the house,
334
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busted through the door,
and there's a giant
in my living room.
335
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[laughs] Basically,
he was like Frankenstein.
336
00:18:37,284 --> 00:18:40,821
The guy just was
like a motionless,
just, you know, blank.
337
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So I was like, you know,
338
00:18:42,990 --> 00:18:43,557
"What the [bleep]
you doing here?"
339
00:18:43,857 --> 00:18:46,393
I was like, you know,
"You gotta go."
340
00:18:46,660 --> 00:18:50,430
And he's like-- You know,
he just shook his head,
and he's like, "Nope."
341
00:18:50,731 --> 00:18:52,833
And I was like,
"Well, you're gonna go
one way or another."
342
00:18:53,166 --> 00:18:55,969
So I pushed him.
He pushed me back.
343
00:18:56,236 --> 00:18:57,104
I punched him in the face.
344
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We went out the front door.
345
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Knocked him down the stoop.
346
00:19:00,841 --> 00:19:02,309
Kicked him in the chest
a couple times.
347
00:19:02,543 --> 00:19:04,111
You know, he got up.
348
00:19:04,444 --> 00:19:05,345
Dropped a couple more
punches on him,
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he hit me, and finally,
I picked up a rake
350
00:19:09,149 --> 00:19:11,318
that I had there,
and I was gonna smash him
in the face with the rake.
351
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He got in his car and bounced.
352
00:19:12,653 --> 00:19:16,490
And just literally
no emotion, no nothing.
353
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As he was leaving,
he was turning his head,
354
00:19:20,627 --> 00:19:22,496
just like, you know,
like, watching the whole time.
355
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[narrator]
Schaller says, a month later,
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Amber saw Heuermann again,
because she needed cash--
357
00:19:29,803 --> 00:19:31,605
needed it badly--
358
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and he offered her two grand.
359
00:19:34,575 --> 00:19:36,543
It was the last time
she was seen alive.
360
00:19:36,844 --> 00:19:39,112
The second she went missing,
361
00:19:39,346 --> 00:19:40,280
the first person that
came to my head was that dude.
362
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[♪]
363
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[narrator]
Schaller told police about
the incident in chilling detail
364
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a few days after
they found Amber's body.
365
00:19:53,627 --> 00:19:56,530
Then two more times
right after that.
366
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He described the exact type
of truck the man was driving,
367
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,936
a dark green or black
Chevy Avalanche.
368
00:20:03,237 --> 00:20:04,938
Yet cops never followed up.
369
00:20:05,239 --> 00:20:08,575
All they had to do was run
Avalanches in Massapequa,
370
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and the case was over, you know?
371
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[Rob Trotta] They had someone
telling them
that it was a Chevy Avalanche,
372
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that it was a six-foot-five guy
who looked like an ogre.
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And if you went on Google Maps
and went up and down the street,
374
00:20:20,988 --> 00:20:24,091
you saw the car
parked in the street.
375
00:20:24,358 --> 00:20:27,160
[narrator] Right in front
of the Heuermanns' home.
376
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Sometimes parked on the street,
377
00:20:29,062 --> 00:20:31,098
sometimes
right in his driveway.
378
00:20:31,398 --> 00:20:34,401
This could easily have
led to an arrest years ago,
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before other victims
may have been murdered.
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[♪]
381
00:20:53,620 --> 00:20:56,123
There weren't a lot of
Chevy Avalanches
all over the place,
382
00:20:56,356 --> 00:20:58,692
certainly not in Massapequa.
383
00:20:58,992 --> 00:21:00,661
That, to me, would seem
like an "aha" moment
384
00:21:00,994 --> 00:21:03,830
when you saw it,
like a, "We almost got you."
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00:21:04,097 --> 00:21:07,301
This one particular tip or lead
should have gone
386
00:21:07,668 --> 00:21:09,736
to the very top of the pile,
in my opinion.
387
00:21:11,538 --> 00:21:13,974
[narrator] Yet cops waited years
before following up
388
00:21:14,308 --> 00:21:16,276
on that critical
piece of evidence.
389
00:21:16,577 --> 00:21:21,215
The initial investigation
in 2010 were not
given the information
390
00:21:21,515 --> 00:21:24,484
that, in fact, there was
a Chevy Avalanche involved,
391
00:21:24,751 --> 00:21:28,021
with a six-foot-five guy,
who was described as an ogre.
392
00:21:28,288 --> 00:21:34,027
How do you keep that information
from a chief or an inspector
who's overseeing these cases?
393
00:21:34,394 --> 00:21:38,832
[♪]
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[Gary Depass] Once you have
information on the make
and model of a vehicle,
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00:21:41,368 --> 00:21:44,671
within a couple
of business days,
396
00:21:44,938 --> 00:21:47,374
DMV can get back to you
with the information
on that vehicle,
397
00:21:47,708 --> 00:21:49,743
which would include the make,
the model, the color,
398
00:21:50,010 --> 00:21:53,714
the plate, the address,
and the registered owner.
399
00:21:54,014 --> 00:21:59,286
Then the next step would be
to run the license information
of that registered owner,
400
00:21:59,553 --> 00:22:02,422
and you have height included
on that description.
401
00:22:02,723 --> 00:22:04,358
And eye color as well.
402
00:22:04,625 --> 00:22:09,129
Someone who's 6'5", 6'6",
270 pounds is
going to stick out.
403
00:22:09,396 --> 00:22:13,166
[narrator] Finally, last year,
investigators did just that,
404
00:22:13,433 --> 00:22:17,437
and the Avalanche,
along with cell phone
and DNA evidence,
405
00:22:17,771 --> 00:22:20,374
gave authorities
the ammo to make an arrest.
406
00:22:24,344 --> 00:22:28,515
Bingo! The second--
That's the face I've had
in my head for 13 years.
407
00:22:28,815 --> 00:22:31,718
It's the only way to put it.
100% that's him. You know?
408
00:22:32,019 --> 00:22:35,189
I'd love to see him,
just laugh in his face,
be like, you know, "Remember me?
409
00:22:35,522 --> 00:22:37,824
I'm the guy you forgot to
clean up, you know what I mean?
410
00:22:38,158 --> 00:22:42,362
The fact that those clues
were not pursued back then
411
00:22:42,629 --> 00:22:46,133
is not only inexcusable, it's
something that's unimaginable
412
00:22:46,433 --> 00:22:47,935
in the law enforcement
community.
413
00:22:48,302 --> 00:22:50,037
We cannot have
this happen again.
414
00:22:50,337 --> 00:22:52,306
I have to apologize,
from a law enforcement
perspective,
415
00:22:52,606 --> 00:22:55,475
that it did take this long for
us to bring him into custody.
416
00:22:55,776 --> 00:22:56,777
[narrator] So who's to blame?
417
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:59,546
A lot of people are pointing
the finger
418
00:22:59,847 --> 00:23:02,115
at this man, James Burke.
419
00:23:02,382 --> 00:23:05,686
He was appointed
Suffolk County Police Chief
back in 2012,
420
00:23:05,986 --> 00:23:09,089
and his tenure
was fraught with scandal.
421
00:23:09,423 --> 00:23:10,958
Now, I can't stress
to you enough
422
00:23:11,258 --> 00:23:13,660
on the unbelievable corruption
423
00:23:13,927 --> 00:23:17,264
that went on in this police
department over the past decade.
424
00:23:17,564 --> 00:23:19,833
[narrator]
Burke went to prison in 2016
425
00:23:20,133 --> 00:23:22,569
over charges related to
beating up a man
426
00:23:22,836 --> 00:23:25,372
who stole porn
and sex toys from him.
427
00:23:31,278 --> 00:23:33,080
And the Suffolk County DA
at the time,
428
00:23:33,347 --> 00:23:35,482
Tom Spota, went to prison
429
00:23:35,816 --> 00:23:39,253
for obstructing
the investigation
into Chief Burke.
430
00:23:41,488 --> 00:23:42,856
[Latibeaudiere]
But there's more.
431
00:23:43,123 --> 00:23:45,726
Burke, allegedly, had sex
with prostitutes himself.
432
00:23:46,226 --> 00:23:47,794
A lot.
433
00:23:48,095 --> 00:23:49,463
His critics say
the last thing Burke wanted
434
00:23:49,863 --> 00:23:51,798
was to put the spotlight
on sex workers
435
00:23:52,099 --> 00:23:54,234
found dead in his jurisdiction.
436
00:23:54,568 --> 00:23:57,804
I knew him,
and he was not fond of women,
437
00:23:58,105 --> 00:24:01,375
and clearly has a propensity
to patronize prostitutes.
438
00:24:01,642 --> 00:24:04,378
[Ray] He was morally,
sexually corrupt,
439
00:24:04,645 --> 00:24:08,048
he was a pervert,
and he was the one
running the show.
440
00:24:08,348 --> 00:24:12,519
Burke had no problem
taking his sex worker
girlfriends, plural,
441
00:24:12,786 --> 00:24:14,755
to police affairs, functions.
442
00:24:15,088 --> 00:24:17,057
And they would strut around,
and nobody noticed?
443
00:24:17,324 --> 00:24:19,993
That's what's wrong here.
444
00:24:20,260 --> 00:24:22,863
I think that between Burke
and that other idiot,
445
00:24:23,130 --> 00:24:25,666
the other DA that
got brought up on charges,
446
00:24:25,933 --> 00:24:27,968
I think that they sacked the
case because it would've allowed
447
00:24:28,235 --> 00:24:29,703
[bleep] that would've
tied back to them.
448
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,075
In fact, Burke seemed
to take deliberate moves
449
00:24:35,409 --> 00:24:37,878
to slow down the investigation,
450
00:24:38,212 --> 00:24:42,282
including kicking the FBI
and other agencies off the case.
451
00:24:42,616 --> 00:24:45,118
He wanted full control.
452
00:24:45,419 --> 00:24:47,321
I think the reason
he didn't want the FBI involved
453
00:24:47,588 --> 00:24:50,691
is because he didn't
want them in his house,
454
00:24:51,024 --> 00:24:53,493
interacting with all the guys
in his department,
455
00:24:53,794 --> 00:24:55,429
where one or more
of them might say,
456
00:24:55,762 --> 00:24:57,764
"You know, this guy
has done similar things."
457
00:24:58,098 --> 00:25:00,000
It is a sad day
for all law enforcement
458
00:25:00,234 --> 00:25:01,869
when something
like this happens.
459
00:25:02,169 --> 00:25:06,206
[Ray] The commissioner
of police, with Burke's urging,
460
00:25:06,507 --> 00:25:11,078
shut down the investigation
in January of 2011,
461
00:25:11,378 --> 00:25:14,615
because he said
that the cadaver dogs, plural,
462
00:25:14,915 --> 00:25:17,618
didn't like to work
in the wintertime.
463
00:25:17,885 --> 00:25:21,121
So I asked the question, "Well,
are they lifeguards? Do they
only work in the summer?"
464
00:25:21,488 --> 00:25:23,257
That was an absurd thing
for the police to do.
465
00:25:23,490 --> 00:25:27,294
And they kept the investigation
closed for three months,
466
00:25:27,594 --> 00:25:29,596
giving plenty of time
for evidence to disappear
in the lake.
467
00:25:29,930 --> 00:25:34,201
[♪]
468
00:25:34,468 --> 00:25:36,136
[producer]
We are field producers with TMZ.
469
00:25:36,403 --> 00:25:38,672
[narrator] TMZ tried
to reach Burke multiple times,
470
00:25:38,972 --> 00:25:40,607
even knocked
on the door of his home,
471
00:25:40,941 --> 00:25:42,075
but we got no response.
472
00:25:44,244 --> 00:25:49,750
If they find a bunch more girls,
that's gonna be the tell
of how big a [bleep]-up
473
00:25:50,050 --> 00:25:51,418
the Suffolk County
Police Department had.
474
00:25:51,718 --> 00:25:54,421
Because if there's
a string of bodies still,
475
00:25:54,721 --> 00:25:55,956
which I'm sure there is,
476
00:25:56,223 --> 00:25:58,859
because, you know, this guy
was able to follow along,
477
00:25:59,226 --> 00:26:01,228
this whole bungled
[bleep] case the entire time.
478
00:26:01,528 --> 00:26:04,298
I've always thought,
for so many years,
479
00:26:04,565 --> 00:26:06,667
that he was out there
and just lurking.
480
00:26:06,967 --> 00:26:09,002
And it just really upsets me
481
00:26:09,303 --> 00:26:10,270
that the police
let this go on for so long,
482
00:26:10,537 --> 00:26:13,307
and he could have been
hurting other people.
483
00:26:13,607 --> 00:26:15,375
[narrator] Heuermann's Avalanche
has become symbolic
484
00:26:15,709 --> 00:26:19,980
of the missteps,
corruption, and incompetence
485
00:26:20,214 --> 00:26:24,585
that may have allowed
a serial killer to kill again.
486
00:26:26,453 --> 00:26:29,957
Coming up, the current stylist
and former escort
487
00:26:30,224 --> 00:26:31,758
who may have dodged
a date with death.
488
00:26:32,025 --> 00:26:34,194
[Brass] I told people for years,
489
00:26:34,528 --> 00:26:36,763
I had dinner with
the Gilgo Beach Killer,
490
00:26:37,030 --> 00:26:38,298
and I want to
testify against him.
491
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:41,001
I want people to know
he was out hunting,
492
00:26:41,335 --> 00:26:43,103
even after
those women were found.
493
00:26:43,437 --> 00:26:46,173
[♪]
494
00:26:53,547 --> 00:26:59,019
[dramatic music playing]
495
00:27:10,163 --> 00:27:14,401
Amber was, like, the most
loving, just... sweetest girl,
496
00:27:14,701 --> 00:27:17,437
and you know, these girls are--
they're human beings.
497
00:27:17,771 --> 00:27:19,573
They're people.
498
00:27:19,873 --> 00:27:22,342
So...
499
00:27:22,609 --> 00:27:27,681
There was a real bias
affecting the intensity
500
00:27:28,048 --> 00:27:31,084
and the quality
of the investigation,
501
00:27:31,351 --> 00:27:33,420
because these girls
were considered disposable,
502
00:27:33,687 --> 00:27:34,821
as sex workers.
503
00:27:35,189 --> 00:27:38,692
Because of that attitude,
I think the idea was,
504
00:27:39,059 --> 00:27:42,129
"Well, you know,
we'll get to it someday."
505
00:27:42,429 --> 00:27:44,965
The fact most of the victims
found dead around Gilgo Beach
506
00:27:45,232 --> 00:27:47,267
were sex workers may have
allowed a serial killer
507
00:27:47,634 --> 00:27:50,304
to roam free for years,
508
00:27:50,637 --> 00:27:55,576
and that may have been part of
Rex Heuermann's plan all along.
509
00:27:55,876 --> 00:27:57,911
As sad as it may be,
510
00:27:58,245 --> 00:27:59,513
they're not going to draw
as much attention
511
00:27:59,780 --> 00:28:02,816
from law enforcement
as other occupations might,
512
00:28:03,150 --> 00:28:06,186
so he chooses
a safe category of victim
513
00:28:06,486 --> 00:28:09,423
in terms of how much focus
they're going to get.
514
00:28:09,790 --> 00:28:13,560
When other women go missing,
especially white women
in this country,
515
00:28:13,861 --> 00:28:15,062
they are often looked at first.
516
00:28:15,362 --> 00:28:16,763
You know, they are blasted
all over the news.
517
00:28:17,130 --> 00:28:20,868
When you are in
an oppressed group,
518
00:28:21,168 --> 00:28:25,038
I feel like they are
going to get pushed down more
519
00:28:25,339 --> 00:28:28,141
than if they were
just that typical blonde-hair,
520
00:28:28,509 --> 00:28:33,847
blue-eyes, lawyer, teacher,
nurse, you know, mother.
521
00:28:34,114 --> 00:28:36,717
People just don't
really look at them
522
00:28:36,984 --> 00:28:39,453
as just regular humans
like the rest of us.
523
00:28:42,523 --> 00:28:45,893
It doesn't really matter
what they're doing
for their lifestyle.
524
00:28:46,260 --> 00:28:47,528
They're still humans.
525
00:28:51,999 --> 00:28:53,767
[Sasse]
There was a lack of interest
526
00:28:54,134 --> 00:28:56,470
because of who they were,
who the victims were.
527
00:28:56,837 --> 00:28:59,173
I hope not,
because that's the worst
528
00:28:59,473 --> 00:29:02,843
kind of discrimination
there is for a dead body,
529
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:05,145
and the families of that victim.
530
00:29:05,479 --> 00:29:07,414
When you look at sex workers
in the history of--
531
00:29:07,748 --> 00:29:09,950
across the United States,
532
00:29:10,250 --> 00:29:12,953
there is a stigma that people
don't care about them,
533
00:29:13,253 --> 00:29:14,321
that they're throwaways,
but you know what?
534
00:29:14,621 --> 00:29:16,557
No one grew up,
no one was born saying
535
00:29:16,857 --> 00:29:17,991
that they wanted to be
a sex worker.
536
00:29:18,358 --> 00:29:22,196
And I think any person,
any person,
537
00:29:22,496 --> 00:29:25,465
any sex worker that has had
a crime committed against them,
538
00:29:25,732 --> 00:29:26,433
or even a murder,
539
00:29:26,733 --> 00:29:29,169
that person needs
to be brought to justice,
540
00:29:29,436 --> 00:29:32,172
because they are human beings,
just like the rest of us.
541
00:29:32,439 --> 00:29:34,107
Current Suffolk County
officials insist
542
00:29:34,374 --> 00:29:36,610
they treat all victims the same.
543
00:29:36,944 --> 00:29:38,846
Maybe so, but back in 2011,
544
00:29:39,146 --> 00:29:40,280
the police commissioner
made it a point
545
00:29:40,614 --> 00:29:42,916
to reassure the public
the community was safe
546
00:29:43,183 --> 00:29:45,285
since the killer was
only targeting sex workers.
547
00:29:45,619 --> 00:29:49,022
From the four remains
that were found and identified,
548
00:29:49,323 --> 00:29:53,093
the business
that they were in, okay,
549
00:29:53,427 --> 00:29:55,963
indicated that whoever
was targeting these individuals
550
00:29:56,296 --> 00:29:57,898
was doing it
because of their business.
551
00:29:58,232 --> 00:30:00,567
We don't have somebody
running around Suffolk County
552
00:30:00,868 --> 00:30:02,236
with blood dripping
from a knife,
553
00:30:02,503 --> 00:30:05,172
and I didn't want the public
to think that, you know,
554
00:30:05,439 --> 00:30:07,808
Suffolk County was
crime-ridden,
555
00:30:08,141 --> 00:30:09,243
which it's not.
Very safe county.
556
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:12,312
So Heuermann may have
gotten the memo way back then.
557
00:30:12,579 --> 00:30:15,983
Police seemed disinterested
in the victims,
558
00:30:16,250 --> 00:30:19,920
which may explain why his
alleged penchant for prostitutes
559
00:30:20,187 --> 00:30:24,157
was apparently alive and well
as late as 2022,
560
00:30:24,458 --> 00:30:25,926
when he was put
under surveillance.
561
00:30:26,193 --> 00:30:30,130
My first impression was
that he was a massive man.
562
00:30:30,464 --> 00:30:33,467
[narrator] Current stylist
and former escort Nikkie Brass
563
00:30:33,734 --> 00:30:38,872
says Heuermann contacted her
for sex in 2015,
564
00:30:39,206 --> 00:30:41,441
four years after
the 11th body was found.
565
00:30:41,708 --> 00:30:45,946
But she had serious misgivings
right from the get-go,
566
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,417
at a restaurant
just 45 miles from Gilgo Beach.
567
00:30:50,717 --> 00:30:55,489
It wasn't until he looked at me
and he said,
"Are you a true crime fan?"
568
00:30:55,822 --> 00:30:59,059
And at that point I got
a little excited, 'cause I am.
569
00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:02,362
And after that,
that's when he said to me,
570
00:31:02,663 --> 00:31:05,232
"Well, have you heard
of the Gilgo Beach killings?"
571
00:31:05,532 --> 00:31:10,604
[♪]
572
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,209
I was like, "Of course,
I'm from Long Island,
we all have."
573
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:17,811
It was just when he started
to talk about it,
574
00:31:18,078 --> 00:31:19,847
that things took a change,
575
00:31:20,214 --> 00:31:22,149
and I realized
there was a problem.
576
00:31:22,482 --> 00:31:24,952
It was because
he sat up straighter,
577
00:31:25,252 --> 00:31:27,855
you know,
he had this smirk on his face,
578
00:31:28,222 --> 00:31:32,359
and it seemed more like
somebody who wanted to brag
579
00:31:32,626 --> 00:31:35,162
and relive the crimes
they were committing.
580
00:31:35,429 --> 00:31:37,231
[narrator] When Nikkie sensed
she was in danger,
581
00:31:37,497 --> 00:31:39,366
she stepped away
and called a friend
582
00:31:39,666 --> 00:31:42,870
to come meet her in
the parking lot, just in case.
583
00:31:43,170 --> 00:31:45,072
[Brass] I have never,
in my life, at that time,
584
00:31:45,339 --> 00:31:48,208
when I was doing those things,
585
00:31:48,509 --> 00:31:52,179
felt scared, felt fear,
or felt the need to get away.
586
00:31:52,513 --> 00:31:54,715
So towards the end of the date,
he had said,
587
00:31:54,948 --> 00:31:55,549
"Are you gonna
come back with me?"
588
00:31:55,849 --> 00:31:58,418
I said,
"It was really nice meeting you.
589
00:31:58,719 --> 00:32:01,989
Thank you for dinner,
but I'm gonna have to say no.
590
00:32:06,326 --> 00:32:07,928
I have a friend waiting for me
in the parking lot
591
00:32:08,262 --> 00:32:11,098
just to make sure
I get home safely."
592
00:32:11,365 --> 00:32:14,334
You could tell he seemed,
like, very visually agitated,
593
00:32:14,635 --> 00:32:17,704
and, like, angry that
I didn't wanna go with him.
594
00:32:22,342 --> 00:32:26,046
We didn't hug.
He was, like, almost hovering
over me with his size,
595
00:32:26,346 --> 00:32:29,183
and you could tell again
he was mad.
596
00:32:29,516 --> 00:32:32,186
He did all this work,
and I didn't go with him.
597
00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:34,588
[narrator] As they went
their separate ways,
598
00:32:34,855 --> 00:32:36,390
it was clear to Nikkie
599
00:32:36,623 --> 00:32:39,426
she had just escaped
a brush with death.
600
00:32:39,693 --> 00:32:44,431
I 100% thought
Rex was the Gilgo Beach Killer.
601
00:32:44,698 --> 00:32:49,703
I told people for years,
many people, for years.
602
00:32:50,037 --> 00:32:53,240
I said, "I had dinner
with the Gilgo Beach Killer,
and I know it."
603
00:32:53,907 --> 00:32:57,110
[narrator] Nikkie didn't tell
police about what happened,
604
00:32:57,344 --> 00:32:59,680
because at the time she was on
probation for drug possession.
605
00:32:59,947 --> 00:33:04,685
But she has no doubt
the man she met that night
was Rex Heuermann,
606
00:33:04,952 --> 00:33:08,522
a man who police could have
caught four years earlier,
607
00:33:08,856 --> 00:33:11,725
had they jumped
on obvious clues.
608
00:33:12,025 --> 00:33:13,694
[Brass]
I want to testify against him.
609
00:33:13,961 --> 00:33:17,097
I want people to know
he was out hunting,
610
00:33:17,464 --> 00:33:20,000
even after
those women were found.
611
00:33:22,636 --> 00:33:24,104
And I want people to understand
612
00:33:24,438 --> 00:33:26,106
that, like,
these women mattered,
613
00:33:26,406 --> 00:33:30,077
and they had a chance
of a better life,
614
00:33:30,344 --> 00:33:32,679
they had a chance
to become mothers and wives,
615
00:33:33,046 --> 00:33:35,115
and do things with their lives,
616
00:33:35,415 --> 00:33:38,418
and they had that
taken away from them,
617
00:33:38,752 --> 00:33:40,921
because he's a monster.
618
00:33:41,188 --> 00:33:43,891
[narrator] The looming question:
were there other women
619
00:33:44,157 --> 00:33:46,693
not as lucky as Nikkie Brass?
620
00:33:48,662 --> 00:33:50,097
Coming up...
621
00:33:50,464 --> 00:33:52,366
I think that there
is an excellent chance
622
00:33:52,666 --> 00:33:56,203
that he is responsible
for additional murders.
623
00:33:56,537 --> 00:34:00,174
[narrator] And that's
because serial killers
tend to keep on killing.
624
00:34:00,507 --> 00:34:03,177
Oftentimes, this is
kind of an addictive aspect
625
00:34:03,477 --> 00:34:07,581
to their personality,
and it starts to build in them,
626
00:34:07,848 --> 00:34:08,815
and build in them,
and build in them,
627
00:34:09,149 --> 00:34:12,085
where they just have
to act on that impulse.
628
00:34:12,452 --> 00:34:15,122
[♪]
629
00:34:22,262 --> 00:34:25,299
[dramatic music playing]
630
00:34:33,373 --> 00:34:35,876
[Dr. Bonn] I believe
that the individual
631
00:34:36,210 --> 00:34:39,713
who committed the original
Gilgo Four murders--
632
00:34:39,980 --> 00:34:43,750
and assuming that Rex Heuermann
is that person--
633
00:34:44,117 --> 00:34:44,751
I think that there
is an excellent chance
634
00:34:45,085 --> 00:34:48,889
that he is responsible
for additional murders.
635
00:34:49,256 --> 00:34:52,526
He may well have a burial ground
that has yet to be discovered.
636
00:34:56,797 --> 00:34:59,199
[narrator] Officials are looking
for other possible victims
637
00:34:59,499 --> 00:35:01,835
in places
Rex Heuermann frequented,
638
00:35:02,102 --> 00:35:05,539
including Las Vegas,
where he owns a timeshare.
639
00:35:05,873 --> 00:35:08,141
It's important
for homicide detectives
640
00:35:08,475 --> 00:35:12,145
to conduct their investigation,
scour their cold cases,
641
00:35:12,479 --> 00:35:14,715
to see if there is
any connection
642
00:35:14,982 --> 00:35:18,352
between these unsolved murders
and the suspect.
643
00:35:22,689 --> 00:35:24,892
[narrator] And they're searching
in Chester, South Carolina,
644
00:35:25,225 --> 00:35:28,095
where he also owns property.
645
00:35:28,395 --> 00:35:30,264
It could very well be
a connection.
646
00:35:30,497 --> 00:35:33,267
[narrator] Aaliyah Bell Hall
was just 18
647
00:35:33,534 --> 00:35:37,237
when she left her uncle's house
in Rock Hill, South Carolina,
648
00:35:37,504 --> 00:35:38,739
back in 2014,
649
00:35:39,072 --> 00:35:40,974
never to be seen again.
650
00:35:42,609 --> 00:35:44,044
When her aunt heard
about Heuermann's arrest,
651
00:35:44,311 --> 00:35:49,349
she wondered if he knew
what happened to her niece.
652
00:35:49,683 --> 00:35:52,386
[Pickett] She decided to leave,
to go home.
653
00:35:52,686 --> 00:35:57,958
It was walking distance,
and that was the last that
anyone saw her was that day.
654
00:35:58,292 --> 00:36:01,828
Chester's about 15 minutes
from Rock Hill.
655
00:36:02,095 --> 00:36:03,297
And I took some time
to process it,
656
00:36:03,597 --> 00:36:07,267
and I'm like, "Okay, well,
this could be related."
657
00:36:07,501 --> 00:36:12,239
And had they took action
like they should have back then,
658
00:36:12,472 --> 00:36:15,075
maybe my niece
wouldn't be missing now.
659
00:36:18,979 --> 00:36:22,349
[narrator]
Police in South Carolina say
they found no connection
660
00:36:22,649 --> 00:36:24,918
between Aaliyah's disappearance
and Rex Heuermann,
661
00:36:25,185 --> 00:36:29,089
at least so far, but
the investigation is ongoing.
662
00:36:30,490 --> 00:36:34,428
The stark reality: serial
killers don't limit themselves
663
00:36:34,728 --> 00:36:36,029
to a particular zip code.
664
00:36:36,363 --> 00:36:39,099
They kill when
there is an opportunity,
665
00:36:39,399 --> 00:36:41,301
and even if they stop
for a while...
666
00:36:43,537 --> 00:36:45,939
the urge is still there.
667
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:48,842
They do stop at times.
They may stop at times
for years,
668
00:36:49,209 --> 00:36:50,344
and then start back up,
669
00:36:50,611 --> 00:36:53,947
and that's very confounding
to law enforcement.
670
00:36:54,248 --> 00:37:00,621
Some have stopped, and,
you know, have never been
found out, but oftentimes,
671
00:37:00,921 --> 00:37:04,825
this is kind of an addictive
aspect to their personality,
672
00:37:05,092 --> 00:37:06,960
and it starts to build in them,
673
00:37:07,227 --> 00:37:09,196
and build in them,
and build in them,
674
00:37:09,530 --> 00:37:12,399
where they just have
to act on that impulse.
675
00:37:12,733 --> 00:37:16,603
[♪]
676
00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:20,307
[narrator]
Back in Massapequa, the lives
of Heuermann's wife and kids
677
00:37:20,641 --> 00:37:21,942
have been turned upside-down.
678
00:37:22,242 --> 00:37:25,379
The search of their home
left it in shambles.
679
00:37:25,612 --> 00:37:28,849
Asa, who is being treated
for breast and skin cancer,
680
00:37:29,183 --> 00:37:31,218
has filed for divorce.
681
00:37:31,485 --> 00:37:33,287
In order to piece back
what's been crumbled
682
00:37:33,554 --> 00:37:36,156
into a million pieces
is gonna take a very long time.
683
00:37:40,861 --> 00:37:43,830
Through his attorney,
Rex Heuermann has proclaimed
his innocence.
684
00:37:44,097 --> 00:37:47,034
His lawyer calls the case
"circumstantial,"
685
00:37:47,301 --> 00:37:50,437
adding his client has been
traumatized by the accusations.
686
00:37:54,074 --> 00:37:56,610
He's a man who's never been
arrested before.
687
00:37:56,877 --> 00:37:59,947
He's maintained his innocence
from the inception of this case.
688
00:38:00,314 --> 00:38:01,081
I doubt that any one of you,
for a moment,
689
00:38:01,448 --> 00:38:02,683
have even contemplated
the possibility
690
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:04,818
that they have the wrong guy.
691
00:38:05,185 --> 00:38:06,820
So what we're gonna do is
692
00:38:07,187 --> 00:38:08,589
we're gonna defend this case
in a courtroom.
693
00:38:08,856 --> 00:38:10,023
[narrator] Prosecutors say
694
00:38:10,324 --> 00:38:11,024
they have a trove of evidence
695
00:38:11,325 --> 00:38:12,726
to put Heuermann away for life,
696
00:38:13,060 --> 00:38:16,597
but the wheels of justice
grind slowly.
697
00:38:16,930 --> 00:38:19,266
A trial may be
at least a year away.
698
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,102
Nevertheless,
family members are now hopeful.
699
00:38:22,402 --> 00:38:25,172
[Sasse] At least this man
can't hurt anybody else,
700
00:38:25,472 --> 00:38:26,840
and he would have.
701
00:38:27,140 --> 00:38:28,809
That hole will be there,
702
00:38:29,076 --> 00:38:31,812
but it will help, you know,
close the door,
703
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:34,948
and this man'll never walk
the streets again.
704
00:38:35,282 --> 00:38:36,416
[narrator] Coming up...
705
00:38:36,783 --> 00:38:39,086
You have so many questions.
706
00:38:39,453 --> 00:38:41,822
How did you pick her?
How did you get her?
707
00:38:42,189 --> 00:38:44,925
You know, did my sister cry?
Did she beg?
708
00:38:45,259 --> 00:38:47,394
Did she say, "Please, please"?
Like, "I have kids"?
709
00:38:47,694 --> 00:38:54,301
[♪]
710
00:38:58,138 --> 00:39:00,807
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718
00:39:36,243 --> 00:39:40,347
[woman 1]
Well, you know, to celebrate
the lives of these women.
719
00:39:41,114 --> 00:39:43,717
Also, to pay respects to them.
720
00:39:45,018 --> 00:39:47,421
[woman 2] They were
all beautiful women.
721
00:39:47,754 --> 00:39:50,490
They weren't just prostitutes,
722
00:39:50,858 --> 00:39:53,393
as everybody is saying.
723
00:39:53,694 --> 00:40:00,534
They were daughters, sisters,
cousins, nieces, mothers.
724
00:40:00,767 --> 00:40:04,605
[narrator] A few months after
the bodies of the Gilgo Four
were found back in 2010,
725
00:40:04,938 --> 00:40:09,376
family members held a vigil
to honor their lost loved ones.
726
00:40:12,846 --> 00:40:14,114
They had no idea back then
727
00:40:14,381 --> 00:40:15,983
it would take
more than a decade
728
00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:20,621
to track down a suspect
and put him behind bars.
729
00:40:23,023 --> 00:40:25,792
[Lynn Barthelemy] Before
we hung up, I always said,
"I love you, be careful."
730
00:40:26,093 --> 00:40:27,094
I said, you know,
"If you get in trouble,
731
00:40:27,394 --> 00:40:28,996
it's not like you're
right around the block."
732
00:40:29,263 --> 00:40:32,065
I said, "It's gonna take me
seven hours to get to you."
733
00:40:33,867 --> 00:40:36,570
She loved
her daughter so much.
734
00:40:36,837 --> 00:40:40,007
She was just very kindhearted,
you know?
735
00:40:40,374 --> 00:40:41,308
She made mistakes. Who doesn't?
736
00:40:41,608 --> 00:40:44,211
She didn't deserve this.
Nobody deserves this.
737
00:40:46,980 --> 00:40:49,316
[Schaller] She was a sweetheart,
you know?
738
00:40:49,616 --> 00:40:50,817
The whole time that we knew her,
she always, you know,
739
00:40:51,151 --> 00:40:53,487
bent over backwards to,
you know, whatever it was.
740
00:40:53,820 --> 00:40:55,689
She was a good kid, you know?
741
00:40:56,023 --> 00:41:00,127
She was a little,
itty-bitty, teeny-tiny girl,
742
00:41:00,394 --> 00:41:04,164
but she had the biggest heart
743
00:41:04,464 --> 00:41:10,571
and the most nurturing nature,
the most mothering nature.
744
00:41:10,838 --> 00:41:14,641
She tried to
take care of everybody
and every little thing.
745
00:41:19,546 --> 00:41:23,317
You have so many questions.
Why? How?
746
00:41:23,584 --> 00:41:26,820
You know, why my sister?
How you-- why did you pick her?
747
00:41:27,154 --> 00:41:29,990
How did you pick her?
How did you get her?
748
00:41:30,290 --> 00:41:33,694
You know, did my sister cry?
Did she beg?
749
00:41:34,027 --> 00:41:36,997
You know, did she say,
"Please, please"?
750
00:41:37,264 --> 00:41:38,298
Like, "I have kids"? Like--
751
00:41:38,632 --> 00:41:40,868
You know,
there'll be all those answers
752
00:41:41,168 --> 00:41:44,738
that I'm pretty sure
the killer won't answer.
753
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:50,477
[♪]
754
00:41:53,213 --> 00:41:55,349
[narrator] Justice delayed
is often justice denied,
755
00:41:55,682 --> 00:41:58,252
and if that maxim is true,
756
00:41:58,552 --> 00:42:00,020
then there may
never be true justice
757
00:42:00,354 --> 00:42:02,189
for families of the Gilgo Four,
758
00:42:02,489 --> 00:42:05,592
and possibly
many other families as well.
759
00:42:07,494 --> 00:42:10,297
But there may be
a measure of peace.
760
00:42:10,597 --> 00:42:13,000
If Rex Heuermann
is the serial killer,
761
00:42:13,267 --> 00:42:16,436
a monster may
finally be contained.
762
00:42:16,670 --> 00:42:19,206
His long reign of terror over.
763
00:42:21,308 --> 00:42:23,410
[narrator]
And after so many years,
764
00:42:23,710 --> 00:42:25,512
too many horrifying years,
765
00:42:25,779 --> 00:42:29,449
there could once again be
tranquility on Gilgo Beach.
766
00:42:29,816 --> 00:42:32,052
[♪]
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