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Did this happen? How did a spoiled 21 -year -old swimsuit model get all

six votes? Here are the other votes. Jenna.

Jenna, it was a landslide. Biggest blowout in Survivor history.

How did she get all the votes, including one from Christy, the girl who swore

this would never happen? Remember this?

I'm going to make sure those freaking evil stepsisters of mine are not going

win the million dollars.

Not going to happen.

Plus, we will hear from Rob tonight, the smartest player to never win.

And how does Matthew feel?

You make it to the final two, and you only get one vote. And is he nuts or was

it an act? We are live in New York City.

The Ed Sullivan Theater. It is the Survivor Amazon reunion.

congratulations well earned very tough out there let's go over just just

to point out what jenna pulled off youngest survivor we've ever had

youngest survivor winner won four of eight immunity challenges the only

to win more was colby back in australia dominated in the last two when she

needed him also the only survivor ever crazy enough to give up immunity and

Curiously turned down an offer from Rob that would have guaranteed you a spot in

the final two because you felt confident enough. Having said all of that, the

thing that's still on my mind is Christy.

What the heck is going on? Let's just take one more. Remember, you swore you

would never, ever vote. Let's play that whole clip one more time.

I didn't deserve to be voted out. I didn't.

I'm going to make sure those freaking evil stepsisters of mine are not going

win the million dollars.

Not going to happen.

But it did. So what happened with you? Why the change of heart?

She outwent, outlasted, and outplayed me.

Now, is that just a nice answer? When you wrote that down, do you really

Jenna outplayed Matt and you?

Yes. But I was with Jenna since day one, and we've been competing since the

first day, and I met Matt in the middle, and I felt, hey, you know, you made it

all the way, so give her that opportunity to win a million dollars.

By the way, we should point out that Christy's working with an interpreter

tonight who's just over my shoulder. She's very fast, and thanks for

us. It's too bad you didn't have one out in the game. It might have helped you a

little bit.

Okay, Jenna, to you. So I'm going to lay out what I think a lot of people are

thinking, which is for a good 36 of the 39 days, You acted like a selfish,

spoiled, only child.

Fair enough?

And I'm just going to say, in the last few days, something changed. Not only

you get game and start to really compete, but you, to me, became a lot

likable. What was going on out there?

What happened?

You know what? I'm very young. I have a lot to learn. And I felt like...

I grew a lot. I said, okay, I lost my whole alliance here at the end. What am

going to do? Am I going to fight or am I going to run?

And I took this show and I got to watch myself and I said, boy, I am spoiled

sometimes and I am annoying.

And I learned so much about myself.

I've grown so much, but it's very hard to have a learning experience in front

a viewing audience that doesn't know you're learning.

And you took a lot of heat, I know. I did, and you know what? Most of it was

deserved, but I feel like I'm a better person because of it. That's really what

matters in the end. Nice.

I have a question about strategy.

At the end, you said, or somewhere in the end, you said, you know, I'm going

take with me, if I can, I'm going to take the person I feel is most deserving

the final team.

So, and maybe I'm wrong on this hunch, you took Matthew. Do you really think

Matthew was actually the most deserving person to go to the final two? Or was

that strategy?

It was strategy. I wanted the jury to think that I was taking the most

person to the final two. That you believed you were. I believed I was.

So you think, had you taken Rob, do you think you would have beat Rob? He would

have kicked my butt.

Well -deserved, too, he would have. Is that true? To the seven jury members,

would your vote have changed if it had been Jenna and Rob?

Yes. Mixed.

So, all right. He probably made a wise move. Well, I guess so.

Matthew, I got to give you props.

You were at the other end of the spectrum. You're a guy who didn't know

about this game, really had never seen it, didn't know what Tremel was, found a

mentor, sort of, in Rob, who taught him the game so well that by the end, you

now have dual alliances with these two, and you're telling us in an interview,

I'll take either one of them, I'll betray either one of them, I don't

care anymore.

And yet...

You get to the end here and you only get one vote. The one question that seemed

to never change was the question about your sanity.

Are you really nuts?

And before you answer that, I just want to take one look back at one of your

favorite sort of hobbies out in the Amazon.

Ma is creepy.

Creepy.

So, were you, a lot of guys were thinking, were you nutty or was that an

what? That was all an act. I was just having fun, you know, I'm a crazy guy.

No, no, no, wait, I'm serious. Were you, that was a strategic act? It really

was. I felt like, in this game, that I needed people to dismiss me.

They really needed to think that I was either absolutely naive or absolutely

insane. And that was the only way I was going to basically deflect their

attention because I felt like physically people regarded me as a threat from day

one. And I was dodging an awful lot of bullets. And I felt like, hey, you know,

this was working and it might get me further in the game. And it did. It's a

great vehicle. I feel like we're at travel council again because all of a

heads are going, I don't believe this. I don't believe it for a second.

Alex is like a puppy dog back there.

No, I was there the night you flipped when we were at Jabberoo.

And when you got two votes that night, you came back, did fire duty all by

yourself that night, got all kinds of dehydrated.

Dino and I, you lost it. You were checked out. And you know what? You know

It was that from that moment on. And I mean, it's funny. We joked about it. And

I don't think you were crazy. I never felt like you were crazy.

Where are you going? We got the point.

You were off. There was something from that moment on you checked out.

And I don't think it was an act. Or it's just one of the best acting jobs.

Maybe. Maybe it's the best acting job ever. I admit to getting extremely

dehydrated on two occasions. One, Dina was there, and the second time,

Roger was there. And that was because I was working damn hard at camp. I was

getting firewood.

building fires i was boiling nobody gonna deny you worked out there and i

got dehydrated and you know what it was it was really scary and we're going to

talk about that a little bit later uh we're going to take a quick break when

come back the whole men versus women thing dividing the tribes the men

the women resulted in a heated battle among the sexes but it was the same sex

clashes particularly the younger prettier girls that really stirred

we're going to stir that pot again when we return older women because we're

younger

You know, pitting the men against the women provided many things this season.

gave the audience somebody to root for, put the men on the defensive from the

get -go, and created underdogs in the women. But it also clearly illustrated

impact that men and women have on the opposite sex and how our behavior

when we are around each other.

Guys, you were goofy from the start.

We're at the first tribal council. You're getting ready to vote poor Ryan

All I have to do is bring up the girls.

Even Ryan, the guy getting ready to go, can't stop talking about. Sean and

Heidi. Alex, what is it that when you separate the men and the women, seems to

sort of increase the sexual tension?

I think you don't really realize what you have until it's gone.

I'm used to having women in my world and around me all the time. And when that

energy is gone, all of a sudden you really realize what's missing.

then you just want it more. I mean, just the desire for that, whether it's

platonic or not, I mean, you just want that energy. Shauna, in a short answer,

you agree with that on the flip side. Is that true?

Absolutely. I think there's a reason men and women are hanging out together.

Since you're bringing it up.

I'm someone who needs, you know, complimentary personality sometimes.

I don't know. Basically, the fact is, I need men.

Why don't we take a look back at Shauna, because here's a girl who's ready to

get out of the game, and then suddenly here comes Alex, and everything's

different. Remember that?

I feel like I've voted some crappy -ass depression.

I can't. The only way out of it is to get out.

I don't see myself lasting for 30 more days. Like, it's not happening right

Oh, yeah.

Good job.

Good job, boys.

It's amazing what a little bit of testosterone can do for somebody.

Hi. How are you?

But it's a great high, boy. That's a nice welcome.

But what is it? Honestly, you were ready to quit when you're in a game for a

million dollars. I know. Three guys come over, and you know what? I'll stick

around a few more days.

Why not? No, you know what the thing was is before with the environment I was

in, I knew I was sick. I wasn't feeling well, whether it be mental or physical.

Who cares? I was totally on a one -way canoe to Psychosville. And then all of a

sudden, you know, you get there, and I had to make a decision that was right

me but was wrong for the rest of the tribe. And I was still feeling like crap

when the guys came, but I was just like, I'm going, and I'm going to have fun,

and I'm going to flirt, and I'm going out in style.

And I'm taking these last few days I have in the Amazon and seeing what I can

with it. It was the first time I'd laughed. I'm someone who loves laughing.

I was sitting there, and I couldn't. Oh, it was horrible. What did you do with

it? Alex, anything between you?

Once Shauna was gone, Alex seemed to move on to the next tribe member.

We just sold it down the river here, right? Well, anything between you guys?

That's the question.

I have nothing but love for her. I love her. She's awesome.

She's one of the best people I know.

Whether or not we're going to be married off down the road, I doubt it. We're

good friends, and we will be for a long time.

Rob, how about you? You were sort of the guy, and I'm not trying just to pick on

you because you're great. You were great on the show. But you sort of came

across as that guy that probably got picked last a lot or maybe didn't have a

lot of luck with the ladies.

Fair enough?

Yeah, very fair.

And you played that part anyway. Has your social life picked up any since the

show? Yeah, well, I do have some good news and I have some bad news.

The good news is that I do have a girlfriend and she's great.

But the bad news is that...

The bad news is that she doesn't believe a word I say.

One of the most interesting aspects of dividing you guys, which is something we

didn't count on, was what happened within the female tribe. There were real

differences between the young and the older women. And we just want to revisit

memorable moment from the ladies' camp.

This is so awesome.

The cuter girls, me and Jen and Sean, kind of went off from the older women

because we're younger and we're cuter.

We've got better bodies. And for some reason, that's like a huge issue with

older people.

Wow. Where do we start with this?

Jean.

What started this, first of all? Where did all this come from?

You know, I didn't even know that was going on because I was working so hard.

was thrown for a loop on episode four and uh and episode four the survivor

yeah heidi let me ask you then before we'll go back to gene to feel how how

what made you say you know well the younger why did you guys go off together

know i i came into this game as an athlete and from day one and this was

the game started before we were on location

I was just like, every time I even did something, you know, it's just the

constant glares and snickers. And then the game started. I was like, are you

kidding me? I was like, if you're going to make this into a looks issue, then I

almost have to. That's how I responded to it.

I'm so sorry if I offended anybody.

Truly I am. But, you know, that's how I felt. It was like I was...

constantly being made fun of because i was too little i was too weak and i so

wanted to be a part of like gene and joey and i going out and doing stuff and

was just like i felt like they wanted nothing to do with me so gene is that is

that any of that seemed right to you or the way you were looking at it because

of a problem with their beauty or size or anything it was because i didn't

that they were pulling their weight and working

Let me ask you, is there anything to the notion that these girls are younger and

they're willing to use those assets and you weren't and didn't?

Hey, they get a lot farther than me.

So there was something.

Was it hard for you to hear them talk about you the way they did?

It was absolutely very difficult. But I was with my friends and my family and

they judged me the way they want to see me. And I love them.

And you look like you're in rocking shape. I am.

Women over 40 know what they want, and they're very happy with their bodies,

they're very comfortable, and I'm very proud of myself.

Dina,

you are always sort of a neutral observer out there.

What was your take? Because that really divided you guys. I mean, tribal

councils got very heated between the younger, prettier girls and the other,

everyone else. What was your take on how that went down?

I really believe that the three of them, Shawna Jenner and Heidi, were at a

clear disadvantage in being an all -female tribe because their greatest

is their beauty, is their manipulation ability.

And when you switch tribes, you could see them using their abilities to gain

alliances. And it clearly worked for them. And that was what they had best

for them. And they used those assets to the best of their ability. If I had it,

I'd have flaunted it too.

Really?

No.

Dave, let me ask you a question. Because the guys seem to be getting along a lot

better than the women did. Do you think, is there anything to that? Do you think

guys, when they're just around guys, have an easier time just gelling and

meshing as opposed to women?

I think that we had the ability to kind of let any minor differences, just get

it over with and move on to something else. I think that if something was

bothering us, we'd let it go out and just move on.

Go from there. And I don't know if that went quite well at the other camp.

Joanna, what's your take on that?

Is that normal in groups of women? Is there fundamentally a difference with

we interact when we're forced together in the same sex?

Well, it depends on who the women are and what they're all about. Yeah. And

they have going on inside and outside.

Did you have a good time on this show? I really did. Hallelujah!

That's what we wanted to hear.

Before we go to break, I just want to clear something up. Janet, you left

under... circumstances that were there was a loot people were alluding that you

might have tried to sneak something in right your take on it is your statement

is oh i absolutely did not bring it and i would love to take a lie detector test

and prove it well and on the on the on your in your defense is there anybody

here that was at that camp that knows she did take it anybody's here

So where did that accusation come from? Why was she somehow singled out? Because

all of a sudden it was like butch with the fire.

Jean. It was in her bag the day before.

And I didn't want to create any drama out there. But we were all sharing bags

and we were sharing the same thing. So it could have slipped out.

Well, it was on the ground the next day. I just want to clear that up and not

have you go out. There's no evidence. Dina couldn't convict you even.

The DA.

All right.

When we come back.

I got to say it, Rob's probably the smartest player the game of Survivor has

ever seen. To never win.

What were the keys to his success?

Plus, it was our first deaf survivor, Christy. We are going to find out about

her experience when we come back.

Butch, here's your hometown, Hawley, Illinois.

Papa Mike's 300 -year buddies are hanging out.

Welcome back to Survivor Amazon, the reunion show. As everybody in the

knows, storms have been wreaking havoc across the Midwest.

In fact, two of our survivors, their homeland, Missouri.

In Illinois, Heidi and Butch have had a lot of damage. We caught wind of a story

out of Moore, Oklahoma, that really caught our attention. Take a look at

This is what's left of the home of William Garrett and his wife, Teresa,

tornado blew through town and destroyed their home.

What was interesting, funny, or pathetic, depending on how you look at

William's take on everything. A local CBS crew caught up with him right after

the storm.

Here's what he had to say.

We got the generator hooked up and got the refrigerators and stuff running and

got that TV on so we could watch Survivor.

So we figured, here they are, William, Teresa, J .R., and Tony,

temporarily homeless.

We figured, you know what, any Survivor fan, that big a Survivor fan, deserves

to see the finale live here in New York City.

So we're glad you're with us. What's the status of the home?

Well, it's in pretty bad shape.

We've got a structural engineer coming out this week, and he's going to

determine whether they're going to tear it down or just fix it.

I think they ought to just tear it down.

Well, we're glad that you guys are all okay, and hopefully things will get back

on their feet.

We've also had our own weather problems here in New York City. We were supposed

to be in Central Park at Wollman Rink. I'm going to slide right past you here.

And I don't know where I'm at now, but I'm going to cut right over here.

Here's what happened.

We were going to shoot in Wollman Rink, and the storm started coming through

here. So this morning at about 8 o 'clock, hello.

Our crew, we had a huge set built over there. It was beautiful.

And we didn't think it was possible. This was not here about 12 hours ago.

rebuilt this all day today. And we also have to thank the Late Show with David

Letterman, who was nice enough at the last minute to say, if you need a place,

come on in here. So we quickly threw it up, got the survivors over here, and

there we go.

Okay, one of the most memorable characters of all time from Survivor

Christy. Not just because you were deaf, but that's certainly a big part of it.

And she had her work cut out for her. It is tough trying to play a social game

when you can't hear.

Most of the interactions involving Christy on the show centered around how

Christy was different from everybody else. But when Christy received her

from home, it reminded everybody that in her world, we're the ones who are

different.

I worry so much about you.

Hope you're doing all right with those hearing people. If they're giving you

problems, there's a whole other world waiting for you when you come home.

Overall, Christy, what was the experience like being in a game like

hearing people who maybe don't care whether you can hear or not?

That was the toughest game I've ever played.

It was really the biggest challenge.

And, you know, I improved.

I learned. I did awesome.

You know, we had a lot of talks at Tribal Council, things that didn't

necessarily end up in the show.

And early on, I was even reminding you that I felt you were acting as though

felt everybody should help you and that that maybe wasn't going to happen.

At what point did you decide, you know what, this is a game, and I'm going to

have to play the game and not worry about whether I hear or whether I'm deaf

whatever?

Right. It was in the beginning, I think after Joanna got voted out, and I just

realized, I was like, if I keep pursuing this as, like, me having a problem with

being deaf and trying to work with everyone, then I'll get voted out like

so I couldn't complain.

So I decided, okay, fine, I'm not deaf, I'm playing the game, let me play and

see how far I can go, and yay!

talk about when you got voted out because you had you did have the power

didn't have it as long as you thought you had it but for a while you had that

key vote do you know what happened there have you thought about why that didn't

work out this man over here well i don't think so that's why i'm asking to me

you did have the vote i did and i just didn't like play back that very like

sneak or try to make sure the plan was really working You didn't have a plan,

what it seemed like to me.

Wait, Christy.

Okay, Jenna and Heidi.

Had Christy, you guys asked her what's the deal. She didn't give you an answer.

Had she said, I'll go with you guys, what would have been the result?

Yeah. It would have been on.

Against everybody else.

And if we made it to the final three, and I promised her if I were to win, I

would take her with me.

And Jenna likewise.

Rob. You approached her, didn't get an answer. Would you have gone with her?

she had to say was, Rob, I'm in.

So indecision kept you out of that game longer. Does that seem fair, Christy?

Yeah, definitely.

Rob, I've got to ask you, in an overall scheme, and we keep making a big deal

list, you did play the game well. It did seem like you had a handle. If you were

describing to somebody who was going to be in the next Survivor, what would you

say is the key to this game?

I think that the key to the game is always knowing where you stand.

And you need to have a working relationship with every person. You

be their friend. You don't need to be in an alliance with them. Well, having a

working relationship and knowing where each person stands and where they think

they stand is really the key. And so when you figure out that you're not in

bigger group anymore, you need to flip it. And when you're at a certain point

and you realize that you're not where you should be, you need to figure out

to get it done. And sometimes you have to lie back down.

Whatever you need to do.

Well, I'm thinking of last season in Thailand with the final four of Brian

Clay and Jan and Helen.

When they told Jan, they said, Helen will be number four, and then Jan,

be number three. Isn't that great?

You're playing, you say, if you're Jan, you go to Helen and say, the hell with

that. Now it's the two of us. You go to whoever else is out there and figure out

a way to get it done.

Do we have, I want to know if we have that, I'm thinking of a great moment

just reminded me, Daniel and Ryan.

When I knew we actually had a season, that the women weren't going to get

out, they're on the balance beam for a long, long time.

You're good.

Feet can't touch.

No.

Daniel and Ryan got to head back.

It is official. Guys, you've lost your lead. The ladies have completed the

balance beam.

Well, what's weird is it did seem like it was Dan's fault and yet Ryan was the

first one but guy and then you're going home three days later Oh, what's

unpacking? First of all, I like the jet ski thing. That was pretty cheap My

strategy I mean I didn't have much of a strategy I guess my strategy was not to

get voted off and I don't know we had all guys tried we had such like Strong

-willed guys and I mean that's it and then the balance beam thing after we

didn't cross I was just like

And Daniel, just an update from you. I don't know if a lot of people know, when

you got home, you actually had malaria.

Yeah, that's right. It was the most excruciating two weeks of my life. I

living with Roger was a walking apart compared to... Up next,

they placed a high value on peanut butter and chocolate, so high they were

willing to get naked for it. When we come back, we will talk with Heidi and

Jenna and find out how it was received when they got home.

Survivor, the Amazon reunion show.

Thanks to the Late Show with David Letterman, we have a home from the rain

outside. How many times do you get a chance to say Happy Mother's Day to your

mom on TV? So, Happy Mother's Day, Mom.

All right. Well, as this season of Survivor brings itself to a close,

one is just around the corner. Here's what's in store for the next group of

Survivors.

This fall, 16 new survivors journey off the coast of Panama to a land steeped in

a bloody history of piracy.

A hidden chain of more than 100 tropical islands located in the blue -green

waters of Central America.

These are the Pearl Islands.

It is a place of ancient riches with a turbulent history of looting and

plundering.

The ruins of Spanish forts and sunken ships are monuments to a violent and

infamous past, where the deeds of pirates like Drake and Morgan are

In these Panamanian waters lurk some of the most exotic and dangerous marine

animals anywhere in the Pacific Ocean.

Ghouls of sharks, stingrays, dolphins, and sea turtles thrive in a spectacular

world beneath the sea.

and our survivors will begin their adventure during the migration of the

humpback whale.

For the first time, each tribe will have its own island, and the marooning will

be unlike anything experienced by previous survivors.

Who will outwit, outplay, and outlast all the others to become the sole

survivor? Find out this fall.

The adventure continues in the Pearl Islands.

It's going to be fun.

Well, people are still talking about one of this season's most controversial

moments when Heidi and Jenna took off all their clothes in front of 20 million

viewers for peanut butter and chocolate.

I think we all remember this.

I'll take my clothes off for chocolate and peanut butter.

Get the girls some chocolate and peanut butter.

Oh, there you go. Heidi, you want to do it? Yeah. All right. Oh, God, why me?

Why did I?

I'm not looking.

No. I got to stay focused. Where can I keep my clothes? I'm looking. All right,

you just pull your pants down your ankles. Yeah, that's what I was going to

I'm not looking. One, two, three. Oh, my God.

Ta -da!

All right, let's go. Hold on, I got to get my shorts. Are they around your

ankles?

I had to bring a drink.

So, that was a great moment.

What was the reaction, though? Jenna, you live at home. You got your parents.

What was the reaction when you got home?

I can't say they were proud of me, but I was starving. I said, look, I was

hungry. It's already done.

We just have to get over it, and let's try to move on.

And I promise I won't do it again.

When you sat down and told them, what was it? I told my dad while he was in

Amazon, so I figured all the love and happiness of seeing me would kind of

overshadow it.

And then I had him break it to my mom.

So, I mean, I can't say they're my parents.

They're never really disappointed in me, but it wasn't my shining moment, but I

love food.

Heidi. Different story for you, you're a school teacher.

Why risk that? Because it had to be tough going back home.

It was, but I have a really supportive family, first of all.

And, you know, I lost close to 20 pounds at that point in time. I mean, I look

deep. We have a little video of that, actually, of you and Alex and some of

other guys. If we can find that, we'll put that up there. So you're saying that

the reason you took it off was hunger.

It was complete hunger. I didn't care about the game at that point. I saw that

peanut butter and chocolate and Coke, and I said, there's no way I'm losing

on this.

I mean, I could not help it. It was all I would think about.

Yeah, there you are right there. It's pretty tough.

Yeah, and Matthew, you can see his ribs.

Back coming through there. Matthew lost 31 pounds. I know you lost about 18, I

think. Alex lost 18. You lost about 18.

A lot of weight loss out there. Dino, something that surprised me on the same

note, just quickly, you even got to a point where you were ready to throw it

because of hunger.

And I came in with a boatload of body fat, too.

We had the Coke challenge where we had to build the fires in order to get the

Cokes. And when we lost the Coke, it was probably one of the 20 most depressing

moments of my life. I can remember getting off of our canoe and saying,

this, I'm an attorney and I make too much money. Get me out of here.

One thing I want to bring up about Heidi, because I think you took a long,

rap this season that I don't think a lot of people know. When I was looking over

my notes for this show, your IQ score...

Off the charts. Actually, you, Alex, and Roger have the highest IQ. You have a

higher IQ than the rocket scientist, for crying out loud.

But, Jenna, but Heidi, it didn't come out on the show. No. Why?

No.

No, and I say to that, thank goodness, because I knew I had my athleticism and

my intelligence.

And if I were to show both of those, there's no way. There's no way. So

strategically, you were fine with playing that role. And you know what you

You have to check your pride in this game. You have to check it.

You did a good job. Thank you. Got you far in the game. It did.

Final five. All right. When we come back, we will tell you how you can own a

piece of this season's Survivor of the Amazon and how you can apply for the

yourself. We'll be right back.

And if you think

you have what it takes to get on this show, then quit talking about it

and go to CBS .com for all the details.

Tomorrow morning, Jenna gets a check for a million bucks. It's on CBS The Early

Show. You'll want to check that out.

Two quick things. Rob, let me just see. The eighth ball survived Butch's fire.

Yes.

It's a little work for wear like all of us, but it actually still works. And

it'd be nice to end on a nice moment. Roger, Dan, I know there was no love

locks. Even after you got voted out, any chance of a little reconciliation?

Yeah. That's where we want to be.

show with David Letterman. That's all we have. Happy Mother's Day!