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-I am announcing today
my candidacy
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for the presidency
of the United States.
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I run to seek new policies,
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policies to close the gaps
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that now exist between
black and white,
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between rich and poor,
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between young and old.
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I run for the presidency
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because I want
the United States of America
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to stand for hope
instead of despair.
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I have traveled and I have
listened to the young people
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of our nation
and felt their anger
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about the war
that they are sent to fight
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and about the world
that they are about to inherit.
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- Last week hecriticized the Vietnam policy.
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This week he focused attentionon the plight of the poor.
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These are not ordinary times
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and this is not
an ordinary election.
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The fight is just beginning.
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- Campaign '68,the Indiana primary.
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This primary would offerthe first toe to toe meeting
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between Senators Kennedyand McCarthy.
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- There's morethat we have to accomplish.
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I think the deep divisions
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within our countryare unacceptable.
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I think that we can heal them.
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I think that we can do better.
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- Senator Robert Kennedy has won
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the first primary test.
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- He apparentlywill have all 23 votes
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at the DemocraticNational Convention.
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- And I intendto go on trying to do that
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in the state of Nebraskaand the state of Oregon
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and the state of California.
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- Well, it's
a real horse race out in Oregon.
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Senator Eugene McCarthy
by a 6% victory margin
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over Senator Robert Kennedy.
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- Good luck to you,Mr. Kennedy.
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Thank you very much.
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- Get 'em, Bob--good luck to you.
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Thank you.
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That war still goes on.
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Of all of
the presidential candidates,
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I was the first one
to speak out against
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the way the war
was being conducted.
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I'm not going to be satisfied
until that war is over
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and American Soldiers are
brought back here.
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- An hour and a halfafter the polls have closed
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in California,
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the biggest primary of them all,
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a slate of delegates pledgedto Senator Eugene McCarthy.
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It's a very tight race now.
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McCarthy has 43%.
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That small gain,Kennedy is pulling ahead.
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The votes are all in now.
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Senator Robert Kennedyclaiming victory in California.
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He's entering the ballroom
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and you can hear the cheersfrom the supporters.
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My thanks to all of you,
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and now it's on to Chicago
and let's win there.
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Kennedy has been shot.
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- Robert, do you
think there's a Kennedy curse?
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I don't know if there's a curse
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or whether there might be a gene
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that disposes people
in my family toward risk.
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In the summertime
during the Camelot years,
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I was raised on Cape Cod
and we lived almost communally
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in a compound
where each family had a house
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that was next to each other.
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All the kids,
there were 29 cousins
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and we ate together every night
and we ate at a different house.
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And then all the kids played
together during the day.
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We had a regimen.
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We had to take tennis lessons,
sailing lessons, boxing lessons.
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- It's like summer camp.
- Like summer camp.
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We played baseball every day
and we played football every day
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and we all did that together.
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So it was
really like being raised
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in one really massive family.
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Did your mother ever hug you
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or father ever hug you?
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-Oh yeah.
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There was affection.
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-Yeah, there was lots
of affection in our family,
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lots of fights
and lots of affection.
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- I want to ask
you now about your father.
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Attorney General Robert Kennedy
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paints a grim pictureof the rise of lawlessness
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under the Cosa Nostra or mafia.
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This he describesas the government of organized
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gambling, narcotics peddling,extortion, racketeering
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and controllingof certain trade unions.
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He says the incomeruns into billions.
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- Bobby Kennedy,
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I mean,he was a born investigator.
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He was a fantastic investigator,
senate investigator.
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What did you do then Mr. Hoffa?
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Did you say,
"That SOB, I'll break his back."
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- Who?
- You.
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You can't remember
what you talked about
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and you can't remember
whether he was in your--
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-Wouldn't have been anything
of any importance, Mr. Kennedy
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and I can't recall it.
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- Tell me,
does Bob ever strike you
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as a seemingly mild-mannered manfor a rackets investigator?
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-Well, I'm awfully surprised
most of the time
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when he really keeps his temper,
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when witnesses
aren't telling the truth
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and being quite frank
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or when they take
the Fifth Amendment so often.
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-You knew this was going on
for all this period of time.
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Mr. Hoffa, it's just beyond
the powers of comprehension
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that you can't recall that.
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- Justa matter of great self-control.
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Is that right?
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-I think so.
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- Robert Kenny wasdefinitely more conservative
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than his brother initially
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and saw the world in a littlemore black and white terms
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than JFK did.
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Bobby reallydidn't like politicians
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and didn't want to have anything
to do with politics
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and was kind of dragged kicking
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and screaming
into supporting his brother
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when he first ran for senator.
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- My brother Bobby,who managed the campaign,
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perhaps he could give ussome idea more up to date
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of what the final figures were.
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-I think that what we got
up to about 20 minutes ago,
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you were winning
by about 70,000.
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- Well,I'm guess you're glad it's over,
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aren't you Bobby?
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- I am at that.
- Okay.
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It was not his choice.
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Bobby had a nice job with
the Department of Justice then
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investigating communists
and subversives
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and he enjoyed that.
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He was good at that.
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He didn't want to get involved
in politics.
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-I am today announcing
my candidacy
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for the presidency
of the United States.
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- But he reallycame to believe in his brother
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and his vision for the world
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and what a really goodleader could do for the world.
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Now my wife and I prepare
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for a new administration
and for a new baby.
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In the appointments I have made,
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I have sought
the most qualified men,
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men of ability and a desire
to serve their country.
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It is with great pleasure
that I announce the appointment
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of Robert F. Kennedy
as Attorney General.
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- That building
across the street
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there is
the US Department of Justice.
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You may be able to see
lights burning
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in the fifth floor office
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of Attorney General
Robert Kennedy.
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The late night work is a symbol
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of the vigor
of the Kennedy administration.
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Then Attorney General Kennedy
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declared his major mission--
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hunting organized crime.
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Some of these big time gangsters
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corrupt the very system
under which we live
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and something
has to be done about it
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and the only thing
that's going to be done
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is by the American people
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and those
charged with authority,
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taking some major steps
and doing them now.
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The Attorney General, Bobby,
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is a very attractivehuman being,
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but his greatest weakness,
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the thing that I've worried
about before he was appointed
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is that when he's bent
on what he thinks
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is the right course,
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he's rather ruthless in action.
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- Mr. Hoffa,Robert Kennedy called
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for a broader wiretap law.
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-I say that if he can push
through a wiretap,
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he can have
a greater police state
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than he already has
in this country.
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-Have a couple
of words with you, sir?
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- An attorneygeneral like Bobby Kennedy,
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he has a personal desire
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to destroy those
who may oppose him.
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- And was true.
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He was a pretty ruthless guy.
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He was taken on these,
he was taken on mob figures.
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- Would you
tell us if you have opposition
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from anybody
that you dispose of them
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by having them
stuffed in a trunk?
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Is that what you do, Mr. Giancana?
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-I decline to answer
because I honestly believe
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my answer might tend
incriminate me.
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Can you tell us anything
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about any of your operations
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or you just giggle
every time I ask you a question?
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I thought only a little girls
giggled, Mr. Giancana.
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He was a crusader
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that really didn't care
who he stepped on.
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- As the Kennedypresidency went on,
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Bobby Kennedy had to take onmore and more responsibilities.
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He was in charge of civil rights.
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-These students
are going to attend
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the University of Alabama.
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- During the mostincreasingly hostile
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and tense momentsof the presidency.
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- James Hoodis the first of his race
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to become a Universityof Alabama student.
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- In fact,
Bobby Kennedy was put
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kind of in charge
of the CIA in an informal way.
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Bobby began each day driving
from McLean, Virginia,
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his estate, past Langley,
the CIA's headquarters
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and stopping
to keep an eye on the CIA.
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He was also in charge of Cuba.
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President Kennedy
gave him the Cuba portfolio
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as part of his
anti-communist task force.
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Why was Bobby Kennedy
compelled to take on
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all this responsibility?
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Because his brother, JFK,
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couldn't trust
his own State Department,
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the Pentagon,
and of course, the CIA.
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- And my uncleand my father realized
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that the CIA was a problem.
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Dulles had lied to him
about the Bay of Pigs.
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Director Allen Dulles
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was working on the planto invade Cuba
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and get rid of Fidel Castro
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by enlisting right-wing Cuban exiles
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who were livingin Miami and hated Castro.
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- My uncle,he didn't want to do it.
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He thoughtwe would look like a bully
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if we had anything to do
with an invasion of Cuba.
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And Dulles persuaded him
that the Cuban brigade
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would not need US help.
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- At a place calledthe Bay of Pigs,
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a landing was madeby a Cuban exile brigade.
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The brigade recruited,paid, trained,
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supplied by the CIA in perhapsthe largest covert operation
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in the history of subversion.
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But the invasion of Cuba failed
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and the Cuban exiles were caught,
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a lot of them,and taken prisoner by Castro.
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- The Bay of Pigsdisaster was a military
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and diplomatic defeatfor the new president.
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- President Kennedyand Bobby Kennedy figured out
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that Allen Dullesknew well in advance
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that the Cuban brigadewere not capable
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of pulling off such a mission.
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Castro could only be overthrown
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if the full mightof the US military came in.
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- He had plannedfor the operation to fail
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in the hopes that Kennedy
would not want to fail
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and send in the troops.
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There were Navy ships
positioned right off Cuba
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ready to go in
and support the operation.
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Kennedy is just furious
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and he fires Allen Dulles,
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this legendary directorwho has served
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every presidentsince Woodrow Wilson.
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But unbeknownst to the Kennedys
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elements of the CIA
and the military were rogue.
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They were going off on their own
in order to achieve
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what they believed
were the right objectives--
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assassinate Castro, take him out.
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And in fact, the CIA
kept enlisting mafia figures
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and they were the ones
who were helping arrange
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for these assassination plots
against Castro inside of Cuba.
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Bobby Kennedy was furious
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when he heard thatthe mafia of all people
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who he was going after--
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Public Enemy Number One--
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was working with the CIA.
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He confronted the CIA about this.
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He said with icy sarcasm,
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I hope in the future
that you will have the goodness
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to tell the Attorney General
if you're working with the mob.
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- The Kennedyssaid the assassination plots
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against Castro have got to stop,
but they didn't stop.
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- Even as Robert Kennedyis telling the CIA,
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"Don't kill Castro,"
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they had plots in motionto kill Castro
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and so they just
didn't tell him.
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I mean, the insubordination
of the CIA against
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the Kennedy brothers
is shocking to me.
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- Good evening,
my fellow citizens.
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Unmistakable evidence
has established the fact
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that a series
of offensive missile sites
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is now in preparation
on the island of Cuba.
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The purpose of these bases
can be none other
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than to provide
a nuclear strike capability
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against the western hemisphere.
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The world was on the brink
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of a nuclear holocaust.
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- Unfortunately,
for JFK, all his other advisors,
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every single one of them
was advocating bombing Cuba.
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- The Kennedybrothers were determined
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not to push this
to the brink as the generals
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who just wanted to go in
and bomb the missile sites,
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Bobby was the only one who said,
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we can't do that.
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This is crazygoing in and bombing Cuba.
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If we blow them up, there willbe retaliation from the Soviets
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and this could quicklyescalate to nuclear war.
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It was really Robert Kennedy
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who just took commandof this situation.
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- He had
the moral clarity to see
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that preventing nuclear war
was the greatest good.
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- Interestingly,Robert Kennedy Jr has recalled
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that they wantedthe Kennedy family,
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all the kids,to leave the city of Washington
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or Hickory Hill
and go into a protected bunker
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that had been set up
for high officials
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and they didn't do that.
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Their father said,
if I pull you guys out of school
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and take you to that bunker,
the country is going to panic,
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so let's just go on
and go to school as usual
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and we'll solve this thing.
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- It shall be the policyof this nation
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to regard any nuclear missilelaunched from Cuba
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as an attack requiringa full retaliatory response
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upon the Soviet Union.
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- Robert Kennedyhad a channel to the Russians--
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back channelto the Premier Khrushchev.
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- There were two messages
that came in back to back.
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- Friday night,got a message from Khrushchev.
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- First one was like,
we will consider your terms,
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and the second one was,
we don't accept your terms
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and Bobby's like
answer the first letter,
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don't answer the second one.
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- Have to waitto see how it unfolds
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and there's a good dealof complexities to it.
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And through Bobby's diplomacy,
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they worked out a deal.
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- Which saidthat he would withdraw
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these missiles and technicians
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and so on providing we withdrewour missiles from Turkey.
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- And we agreed
also not to try to kill Castro,
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not to invade the island.
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But we don't plan to invade Cuba
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under these conditions, anyway.
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- The CubanMissile Crisis brought the world
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closer to a nuclear holocaustthan anything we've seen since.
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- Across the worldgoes a long sigh of relief,
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and with it, the world's firstnuclear showdown is over.
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- Without Bobby,if Bobby hadn't have been there,
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there's no guaranteeAmerica would be here today
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or any of us for that matter.
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He was called ruthless.
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But the fascinating thing aboutRobert Kennedy was that
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he was willing to growand change.
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- And your father changed
when, then?
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- The day
that his brother was killed.
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- Hello?
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- My father changed
after my uncle's death.
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- Ten yearsafter his death,
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Robert Kennedy's widowand children
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and home are stillvery much together.
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So little seems to have changed.
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There still are dogs everywhereand children underfoot
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or airborne and somethinghappening almost all the time.
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Robert F. KennedyJr. is 24 now,
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a Harvard graduateand is entering law school.
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- Do you thinkyour father's career
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will ultimately havean influence on where you go?
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- Well,
like I said before,
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I think that really we've been
raised the way we've been raised
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and I think the way
that most of my family thinks
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is that his goals
and a lot of his ideals
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were really worth pursuing.
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I didn't necessarily say
I was going to go into politics.
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I'd always wanted to be
a veterinarian,
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but I think I felt some pressure
after my father died
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to sort of change my career
to try to do more of
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the kind of thing that
he was trying to do.
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And I ended up, rather than
going to veterinary school,
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going to law school
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and really followed
his career path.
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I went to Harvard and then
to University of Virginia,
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which he had done,
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and then I became
an attorney and a prosecutor,
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which was kind of what my father
had been doing.
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- In the wake
of your father's death,
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you try to follow
in his footsteps.
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You're going
to the same schools,
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you become an attorney,
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but it didn't seem to work out
and at this time,
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in this area,
you have a drug addiction.
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How does that play out?
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- I started
experimenting with drugs
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when I was 15,
so a year after my dad's death.
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I never even had drank coffee
by the time I was 15
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and then I was at a party
for the older brother
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of a friend of mine
in Cape Cod who had been drafted
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and was being shifted off
to Vietnam
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and it was his goodbye party.
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I was hitchhiking home
from that party
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and an older kid picked me up
and he offered me LSD.
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And LSD had just come
to Cape Cod
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with the Merry Pranksters
that night.
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I would not have taken LSD,
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but the week before these
older kids had eaten peyote
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and they had taken
a hallucinogenic trip
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and it had brought them
back in time
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00:22:33,812 --> 00:22:35,980
where they saw dinosaurs
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and my favorite comic book
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00:22:38,650 --> 00:22:43,028
that I read every month
was called Turok Son of Stone,
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00:22:43,155 --> 00:22:45,615
which is about these
two Indians.
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So I said to this kid,
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"If I take LSD,
will I see dinosaurs?"
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And he said, "You might."
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And I had a trip that lasted
probably for ten hours,
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extreme hallucinations
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and I had a ball,
I had a lot of fun,
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but I was coming home
in the morning
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and I was crashing
and I was feeling depressed
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and remorseful
and saying,
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"I'm never going to do
that again."
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00:23:12,642 --> 00:23:14,770
Plus, I had to go back
and face my mom
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and we had a curfew
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and I was going to just be
in misery
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00:23:18,565 --> 00:23:22,152
and I saw these boys
in the woods,
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00:23:22,277 --> 00:23:24,905
they were all
on LSD that night.
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I said to them
I'm really crashing on this
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and feel miserable.
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And they said,
"Try some of this,"
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and it was crystal meth.
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And I took it
so it was like I was in heaven
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and it solved all my problems.
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And that was the template
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00:23:40,795 --> 00:23:42,838
for my addiction
for the next 14 years
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of me constantly trying to stop
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and telling myself
I'm never going to do that again
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and then
finding myself doing it.
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I ran away from home
when I was 16 years old
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and hopped freight trains
across the country,
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00:24:00,398 --> 00:24:02,025
disappeared for three months.
437
00:24:02,150 --> 00:24:04,485
I worked in a lumber camp
in Colorado.
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00:24:04,610 --> 00:24:09,740
I hitchhiked and rode the trains
all over the country
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00:24:10,742 --> 00:24:14,620
and had no contact
with my mother.
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00:24:14,745 --> 00:24:16,038
- Is this because
she was tough?
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00:24:16,163 --> 00:24:18,208
- My mother, I had
a very troubled relationship
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with my mother
from when I was born.
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00:24:23,297 --> 00:24:25,632
She had
a chemical reaction to me
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and I had the same thing to her
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00:24:27,758 --> 00:24:32,638
and where my presence
would get her agitated.
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00:24:32,763 --> 00:24:33,932
- Bobby,
who are you named after?
447
00:24:34,057 --> 00:24:35,058
- You, Bobby?
448
00:24:35,183 --> 00:24:37,060
- Can you get up
and tell the television
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00:24:37,185 --> 00:24:38,687
who you're named after, Bobby?
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00:24:38,812 --> 00:24:39,770
No.
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00:24:39,897 --> 00:24:42,523
Bobby, who are you
putting over your head?
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00:24:42,648 --> 00:24:43,733
- Percy.
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00:24:43,858 --> 00:24:45,193
Percy his elephant.
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And uh--
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00:24:49,865 --> 00:24:51,533
I knew him.
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00:24:51,658 --> 00:24:52,742
He ran away as a kid.
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00:24:52,867 --> 00:24:56,705
He was kicked out of the house
so many times on his adventures,
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00:24:56,830 --> 00:25:00,208
but he loved his mother
and his mother loved him.
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00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:02,335
He was always the favorite.
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00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:06,088
That's why
when he screwed up so much,
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00:25:06,213 --> 00:25:08,508
she was so
disappointed with him.
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In the family at that point,
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00:25:10,135 --> 00:25:12,137
he was persona non grata
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and ended upnot just getting into drugs
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like LSD or marijuana
that were happening at the time,
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but also heroin.
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00:25:24,357 --> 00:25:26,233
He went through law school,
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heavily addicted.
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00:25:28,362 --> 00:25:32,282
He passed his bar exam
after a few tries,
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00:25:32,407 --> 00:25:33,950
heavily addicted.
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I think heroin for me,
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it was self-medicating.
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I had been so restless before.
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00:25:40,248 --> 00:25:42,333
I was probably ADHD.
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00:25:42,458 --> 00:25:45,003
Nowadays they'd
probably give me,
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00:25:45,128 --> 00:25:48,298
put me on Adderall and stuff
because I could not sit still
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00:25:48,423 --> 00:25:51,092
and the world
was moving so fast for me.
478
00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:56,138
And then heroin slowed it down
and allowed me to focus
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and read and concentrate.
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00:25:58,475 --> 00:26:02,312
I went from being really among
the worst people in my class
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00:26:02,437 --> 00:26:04,730
academically
to the top of my class.
482
00:26:05,565 --> 00:26:08,277
But it works
until it stops working
483
00:26:08,902 --> 00:26:10,737
and it turns on you.
484
00:26:11,738 --> 00:26:12,822
-Let's say hello to this
remarkable young man.
485
00:26:12,947 --> 00:26:13,782
-Absolutely.
486
00:26:13,907 --> 00:26:15,367
-Mr. Robert Kennedy Jr.
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00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:24,833
Be right back.
488
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,793
Come on in here.
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00:26:25,918 --> 00:26:27,420
Who have you got there, Bobby?
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00:26:27,545 --> 00:26:31,842
- This is
an American Golden eagle.
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00:26:31,967 --> 00:26:33,468
What do you think, Joey?
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00:26:33,593 --> 00:26:36,262
He was functioning,
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00:26:36,387 --> 00:26:38,013
I mean, I'm sure thathe was not functioning
494
00:26:38,138 --> 00:26:40,017
at his optimal level,but he was functioning.
495
00:26:40,142 --> 00:26:42,643
He held a joband stuff like that.
496
00:26:42,768 --> 00:26:44,603
I wanted to ask you about,
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00:26:44,728 --> 00:26:47,565
you think eventually
you'll go into politics?
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00:26:47,690 --> 00:26:49,567
-I don't know.
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00:26:49,692 --> 00:26:51,945
That in itself is a pipe dream.
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00:26:53,447 --> 00:26:54,572
Through Robert Morgenthal
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00:26:54,697 --> 00:26:56,490
who'd known his father,
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00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:58,535
Bobby got a job
with the DA's office
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00:26:58,660 --> 00:27:00,370
in New York.
504
00:27:00,495 --> 00:27:02,330
- As an attorney,
what were you doing?
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00:27:02,455 --> 00:27:05,417
-I was prosecuting criminals.
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00:27:05,542 --> 00:27:06,625
At the same time,
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00:27:06,752 --> 00:27:11,673
he would go up to Harlemand enter these tenements
508
00:27:11,798 --> 00:27:15,343
in really rough neighborhoodsand score heroin.
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00:27:16,177 --> 00:27:17,720
- He went
to rehab about five times.
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00:27:17,845 --> 00:27:20,390
I drove him to rehab three
or four times
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00:27:20,515 --> 00:27:25,562
and it never worked,
the times I took him.
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00:27:25,687 --> 00:27:26,730
It would work for a while
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00:27:26,855 --> 00:27:28,857
and when
he was trying to get off
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00:27:28,982 --> 00:27:32,902
and I would try and chase
the drug dealers away from him
515
00:27:33,027 --> 00:27:37,573
to keep them away from him,
but eventually he relapsed.
516
00:27:37,698 --> 00:27:41,118
- At that point,
I really wanted to stop.
517
00:27:41,243 --> 00:27:43,538
I was going out to Minnesota
518
00:27:44,372 --> 00:27:47,292
to a rehab and I OD'd.
519
00:27:47,417 --> 00:27:51,963
I took too much heroin
and I nodded out on the airplane
520
00:27:52,088 --> 00:27:54,090
and somebody saw it
and they reported me
521
00:27:54,215 --> 00:27:56,592
and then I got busted.
522
00:27:56,718 --> 00:28:00,513
And when I got off the plane,
the police were waiting for me.
523
00:28:02,098 --> 00:28:04,267
It's probably the best thing
that ever happened to me
524
00:28:04,392 --> 00:28:08,397
because I had such a fear
that my addiction
525
00:28:08,522 --> 00:28:10,440
was going to get in
the newspapers,
526
00:28:11,607 --> 00:28:15,570
but at this point
everybody knew I had the problem
527
00:28:16,362 --> 00:28:19,615
so I could start
talking about it
528
00:28:20,450 --> 00:28:22,952
and that was the beginning
of my recovery.
529
00:28:23,953 --> 00:28:25,288
When he was sentenced,
530
00:28:25,413 --> 00:28:28,875
part of his sentence
was to go to rehab.
531
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,793
He had been through rehab
a number of times,
532
00:28:30,918 --> 00:28:32,545
but this was his final time
533
00:28:32,670 --> 00:28:35,965
and he suddenly
had an awakening.
534
00:28:36,673 --> 00:28:38,427
- That was a realturning point for him
535
00:28:38,552 --> 00:28:42,180
and it really saved his life.
536
00:28:42,305 --> 00:28:46,142
I got sober in 1983.
537
00:28:46,267 --> 00:28:47,893
And how old were you?
538
00:28:48,018 --> 00:28:49,770
-I was 28.
539
00:28:49,895 --> 00:28:52,857
-You were still working
as an attorney?
540
00:28:52,982 --> 00:28:53,817
-Yeah.
541
00:28:53,942 --> 00:28:55,067
-And what happens then
542
00:28:55,193 --> 00:28:58,947
after you go through this
period of change?
543
00:28:59,072 --> 00:29:00,448
-When I got sober, I realized
544
00:29:00,573 --> 00:29:02,992
I need to be true to myself.
545
00:29:03,117 --> 00:29:04,910
I wanted to be working
with nature
546
00:29:05,035 --> 00:29:07,497
and I wanted to be outside.
547
00:29:08,707 --> 00:29:12,127
I decided to work
for an environmental group.
548
00:29:13,043 --> 00:29:16,005
- He started with theNatural Resources Defense Council,
549
00:29:16,130 --> 00:29:17,507
which is the leadingenvironmental group
550
00:29:17,632 --> 00:29:18,758
in the country.
551
00:29:19,842 --> 00:29:22,720
This is how he became
an environmental lawyer.
552
00:29:22,845 --> 00:29:24,722
- I took all
the training that I had
553
00:29:24,847 --> 00:29:27,725
as a district attorney,
as an attorney and a prosecutor,
554
00:29:27,850 --> 00:29:30,395
and started prosecuting
environmental crimes
555
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,522
by taking polluters to court.
556
00:29:32,897 --> 00:29:35,650
- That also awakened
something deep inside him.
557
00:29:35,775 --> 00:29:38,612
When he was an 8-year-old kid,
he loved animals
558
00:29:38,737 --> 00:29:40,905
and he loved the fishes
559
00:29:41,030 --> 00:29:42,198
and all the animals in the wild,
560
00:29:42,323 --> 00:29:44,117
and all of a sudden
he had a chance
561
00:29:44,242 --> 00:29:48,245
to have a career of this
and that was thrilling for him.
562
00:29:49,122 --> 00:29:50,290
When I was young,
563
00:29:50,415 --> 00:29:54,460
nature to me was alwayssomething that was important.
564
00:29:55,295 --> 00:29:57,797
It was a connectionthat I had with my father.
565
00:29:58,673 --> 00:30:00,132
- Bobby's fatherused to organize
566
00:30:00,258 --> 00:30:03,970
whitewater rafting tripsstarting when he was very young.
567
00:30:04,095 --> 00:30:05,680
- All of theserivers in the United States
568
00:30:05,805 --> 00:30:07,057
that we've traveled down,
569
00:30:07,182 --> 00:30:09,100
I think it's a greatnatural resource
570
00:30:09,225 --> 00:30:12,312
that I'd like to havethe children see and enjoy.
571
00:30:12,437 --> 00:30:14,563
What you like the best, Bobby?
572
00:30:14,688 --> 00:30:16,858
- I liked it
when we went on the hikes
573
00:30:16,983 --> 00:30:20,110
and I caught a lot of reptiles.
574
00:30:20,237 --> 00:30:21,695
Bobby caught a rattlesnake,
575
00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:22,780
and put it in a bottle,
576
00:30:22,905 --> 00:30:23,907
which was very nice
for all of us.
577
00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:30,997
- In 1966,his father had taken him
578
00:30:31,122 --> 00:30:32,915
to the Hudson River
579
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,252
and his father was appalled
at what he saw.
580
00:30:36,002 --> 00:30:38,087
You couldn't eat the fish
from the river.
581
00:30:38,212 --> 00:30:40,548
Commercial fishermen had
all been put out of business.
582
00:30:40,673 --> 00:30:42,592
Oil spills from Exxon Mobil,
583
00:30:42,717 --> 00:30:44,760
the pollution from
the General Electric Company
584
00:30:44,885 --> 00:30:46,053
and Monsanto.
585
00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:48,222
I mean, it was just terrible.
586
00:30:49,098 --> 00:30:51,977
- Well,
he told me he was determined
587
00:30:52,102 --> 00:30:54,728
to clean it up.
588
00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:57,315
- Bobby ended upjoining a new organization
589
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,610
called the Riverkeepers.
590
00:31:00,735 --> 00:31:02,112
- Riverkeeperswas started by a group
591
00:31:02,237 --> 00:31:03,528
of commercial fishermen,
592
00:31:03,655 --> 00:31:05,532
eager to protect their environment.
593
00:31:06,073 --> 00:31:07,158
They decided long before
594
00:31:07,283 --> 00:31:09,118
the word
environmentalist was coined
595
00:31:09,243 --> 00:31:10,787
that they were going
to do something about
596
00:31:10,912 --> 00:31:12,497
oil spills, sewage.
597
00:31:12,622 --> 00:31:14,123
They were going to
stand up and fight.
598
00:31:14,248 --> 00:31:16,292
Then the Riverkeeper asked me
599
00:31:16,417 --> 00:31:18,587
to come and work for them
as their full-time attorney.
600
00:31:19,587 --> 00:31:21,965
- And Bobby was thereon behalf of the NRDC
601
00:31:22,090 --> 00:31:25,802
and began to patrol the riverwith John Cronin.
602
00:31:26,385 --> 00:31:28,847
They became partnersand they would actually,
603
00:31:28,972 --> 00:31:31,933
they'd really get out thereand look for polluters
604
00:31:32,683 --> 00:31:35,270
- And I found about24 different polluters.
605
00:31:35,395 --> 00:31:36,562
I photographed them.
606
00:31:36,687 --> 00:31:39,940
I took samples
and I then brought lawsuits
607
00:31:40,065 --> 00:31:42,318
against all 24 polluters.
608
00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:46,488
Bobby Kennedy was suing
609
00:31:46,613 --> 00:31:48,365
under the Clean Water Act.
610
00:31:48,490 --> 00:31:49,742
- It's illegalto pollute the waters
611
00:31:49,867 --> 00:31:51,160
of the United States.
612
00:31:51,285 --> 00:31:53,622
You have to pay a high penalty
if you do pollute.
613
00:31:53,747 --> 00:31:56,123
- And it outlawedthings like dumping PCBs
614
00:31:56,248 --> 00:31:57,875
into the Hudson River.
615
00:31:58,918 --> 00:32:00,670
Soon afterhe joined Riverkeepers,
616
00:32:00,795 --> 00:32:03,338
he was out gatheringsome fish with the nets
617
00:32:03,463 --> 00:32:04,298
and I went out with him.
618
00:32:04,423 --> 00:32:06,300
We had big boots on and stuff
619
00:32:06,425 --> 00:32:08,762
and he told me we just won
a $2 million judgment.
620
00:32:09,762 --> 00:32:13,767
They had sued Exxon for
polluting the Hudson River.
621
00:32:13,892 --> 00:32:16,518
I realized that he was
onto something big.
622
00:32:16,643 --> 00:32:19,188
- In the faceof enormous industrial pressure,
623
00:32:19,313 --> 00:32:21,690
we've been ableto save this river.
624
00:32:21,815 --> 00:32:24,360
We came here in 1985.
625
00:32:24,485 --> 00:32:27,780
We found it reallya polluted cesspool,
626
00:32:27,905 --> 00:32:29,865
but now it seems pretty clean
627
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:33,410
and there's a relativeabundance of fish in it.
628
00:32:37,498 --> 00:32:39,833
Today, the Hudson River is
629
00:32:39,958 --> 00:32:41,585
one of the cleanest in the country
630
00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:43,503
and you can eat the fish again.
631
00:32:43,628 --> 00:32:45,965
And it was the efforts
of Bobby and John Cronin
632
00:32:46,090 --> 00:32:48,677
and Riverkeeper
that made that happen.
633
00:32:48,802 --> 00:32:51,970
- To travel upthis magnificent river,
634
00:32:52,097 --> 00:32:54,723
such a landmark
throughout the United States
635
00:32:55,475 --> 00:32:58,602
and see the amount of pollution
that's taken place.
636
00:32:58,728 --> 00:33:00,688
I think that we should do
something about it.
637
00:33:02,023 --> 00:33:03,648
Bobby was sober
638
00:33:03,775 --> 00:33:07,278
and really dedicated
to his causes.
639
00:33:07,987 --> 00:33:10,238
This was the passion
that he had.
640
00:33:11,073 --> 00:33:12,658
This was his mission in life.
641
00:33:16,995 --> 00:33:21,250
In those early years,
he really was fearless.
642
00:33:21,375 --> 00:33:22,418
Do you think the Spotted Owl
643
00:33:22,543 --> 00:33:23,753
put a lot of people out of work?
644
00:33:23,878 --> 00:33:25,505
- First of all,
that is an exaggeration.
645
00:33:25,630 --> 00:33:26,588
Okay, I just asked.
646
00:33:26,713 --> 00:33:27,757
- He was lionized.
647
00:33:27,882 --> 00:33:28,967
He wrote a book at the time.
648
00:33:29,092 --> 00:33:30,342
It was a big bestseller.
649
00:33:30,468 --> 00:33:32,887
- Crimes Against Natureis now out in paperback.
650
00:33:33,012 --> 00:33:35,557
It's on the bookshelves now.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
651
00:33:35,682 --> 00:33:37,015
He was changing the world
652
00:33:37,142 --> 00:33:40,478
and I think that he felt thatand he was committed to that.
653
00:33:40,603 --> 00:33:42,230
And by the early 2000s,
654
00:33:42,355 --> 00:33:44,565
Bobby was the leading
environmental lawyer
655
00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:46,025
in the United States.
656
00:33:46,150 --> 00:33:48,527
He was taking
on Smithfield Foods
657
00:33:48,652 --> 00:33:53,742
and suing them for dumping waste
from their industrial hog farms.
658
00:33:53,867 --> 00:33:55,242
There's no right to pollute.
659
00:33:55,367 --> 00:33:56,368
The polluter pays.
660
00:33:56,868 --> 00:33:59,497
This battle that we're
all fighting for today,
661
00:33:59,622 --> 00:34:02,500
this is the battle
against ignorance and greed.
662
00:34:02,625 --> 00:34:05,377
- 2004, he was askedat the Democratic Convention--
663
00:34:05,503 --> 00:34:07,003
the Bush administrationwas in power
664
00:34:07,130 --> 00:34:08,547
and he was taking them on.
665
00:34:08,672 --> 00:34:10,550
He has put polluters in charge
666
00:34:10,675 --> 00:34:13,887
of all the regulatory agencies
that are supposed to protect
667
00:34:14,012 --> 00:34:15,472
Americans from pollution.
668
00:34:15,597 --> 00:34:19,600
The second in command
of EPA is a Monsanto lobbyist.
669
00:34:19,725 --> 00:34:22,103
-Time magazine called him
a Hero of the Planet.
670
00:34:22,228 --> 00:34:24,272
-Please welcome
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
671
00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:29,402
- Good to see you
again, Mr. Kennedy.
672
00:34:29,527 --> 00:34:32,028
- I took a lotof river trips with Bobby
673
00:34:32,155 --> 00:34:35,115
and a small riverwas being poisoned by
674
00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:37,285
a paper mill upstream.
675
00:34:37,410 --> 00:34:39,162
All the animal life
around the river
676
00:34:39,287 --> 00:34:42,123
were being poisoned by mercury,
677
00:34:42,248 --> 00:34:45,208
and I think he
was very affected by that.
678
00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:48,922
- Mercury, it's a very,
very dangerous chemical.
679
00:34:49,047 --> 00:34:51,548
In 17 states,
it's now unsafe to eat
680
00:34:51,673 --> 00:34:53,968
any fresh water fish
because of mercury.
681
00:34:54,093 --> 00:34:56,387
It's coming from
coal burning power plants.
682
00:34:56,512 --> 00:34:58,347
- We are
the Saudi Arabia of coal,
683
00:34:58,472 --> 00:34:59,807
are we not?
684
00:35:00,933 --> 00:35:03,143
- I think I've gota good sense of who I am
685
00:35:03,812 --> 00:35:07,523
and I'm very proud of my father,of my uncles,
686
00:35:07,648 --> 00:35:10,025
but I don't feelcompetitive with them.
687
00:35:10,652 --> 00:35:12,987
I love the gifts
that I've been given
688
00:35:13,112 --> 00:35:16,532
and feel like I want to use
those in whatever way
689
00:35:16,657 --> 00:35:17,992
that I'm supposed to,
690
00:35:18,117 --> 00:35:20,410
like my father did with his gifts.
691
00:35:20,537 --> 00:35:22,997
-Please welcome Robert F.
Kennedy Jr to the program.
692
00:35:23,122 --> 00:35:25,667
Robert, nice to see you.
693
00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:28,752
-Likewise.
-As we adjust our chairs...
694
00:35:28,878 --> 00:35:31,047
Normally known more
for environmental causes
695
00:35:31,172 --> 00:35:34,925
and I guess to a certain extent
this is apropos of that.
696
00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:38,053
Most recently you're talking
about the link between autism
697
00:35:38,178 --> 00:35:40,515
and vaccinations.
698
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,723
Pretty controversial.
699
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,060
Back in the early 2000s,
700
00:35:44,185 --> 00:35:46,937
Bobby was giving talksall over the country,
701
00:35:47,062 --> 00:35:49,148
like 200 talks a year, just about.
702
00:35:49,273 --> 00:35:52,610
And he began to find
that there were all these women
703
00:35:52,735 --> 00:35:55,613
showing up at his talks
sitting in the front row,
704
00:35:55,738 --> 00:35:58,782
and some of them began coming up
to him afterwards and saying,
705
00:35:59,658 --> 00:36:01,035
"What you're saying
about mercury
706
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,620
"from coal burning
power plants is true
707
00:36:03,745 --> 00:36:05,163
"and it's all well and good, but...
708
00:36:05,790 --> 00:36:07,417
"somebody has got to look
into the fact
709
00:36:07,542 --> 00:36:10,377
"that mercury
in childhood vaccines
710
00:36:10,502 --> 00:36:12,755
"in a preservative
called Thimerosal
711
00:36:13,297 --> 00:36:17,468
"is causing neurocognitive
deficiencies in our kids,
712
00:36:17,593 --> 00:36:20,387
including an outbreak of autism."
713
00:36:21,222 --> 00:36:23,432
Bobby wanted nothing
to do with this,
714
00:36:23,557 --> 00:36:24,433
but they kept coming up to him.
715
00:36:24,558 --> 00:36:27,228
And finally there was a woman
named Sarah Bridges
716
00:36:27,353 --> 00:36:29,272
whose son had autism.
717
00:36:29,855 --> 00:36:35,110
So she came to Hyannis
with a big box of evidence.
718
00:36:35,737 --> 00:36:37,780
-Brought a banker's box.
719
00:36:37,905 --> 00:36:40,490
I gave him an impassioned one minute--
720
00:36:40,617 --> 00:36:42,327
I thought it was really compelling,
721
00:36:42,452 --> 00:36:43,410
what happened to my son.
722
00:36:43,535 --> 00:36:46,038
How he was a totally normal
four month old
723
00:36:46,163 --> 00:36:47,582
who received nine vaccines
724
00:36:47,707 --> 00:36:49,500
and he had a two hour seizure.
725
00:36:49,625 --> 00:36:51,877
The ER doctor pulled me aside and said,
726
00:36:52,002 --> 00:36:54,255
"You've had a classic
vaccine reaction"
727
00:36:54,380 --> 00:36:57,967
and acknowledged that he had
been brain damaged by his vaccines.
728
00:36:58,092 --> 00:37:01,053
And Bobby looked at me
and said, "I'm not interested."
729
00:37:01,803 --> 00:37:05,265
And I said, "Would you just
read some of these articles?"
730
00:37:05,767 --> 00:37:08,685
And he said, "I will read a few."
731
00:37:08,810 --> 00:37:09,853
And unbeknownst to me,
732
00:37:09,978 --> 00:37:12,940
he sat up and read
the majority of them that night.
733
00:37:13,065 --> 00:37:15,735
He said,
"Something's wrong here."
734
00:37:15,860 --> 00:37:18,445
"I'm going to get involved in this.
I'm in."
735
00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:21,240
- In the beginning,he didn't want to do it,
736
00:37:21,365 --> 00:37:24,327
but nobody was willingto take this on.
737
00:37:24,452 --> 00:37:26,537
Who else was gonna do it?
738
00:37:26,662 --> 00:37:30,457
-Between 1989 and 2003,
739
00:37:30,582 --> 00:37:33,752
almost all of our vaccinations
included a material
740
00:37:33,877 --> 00:37:35,003
called Thimerosal,
741
00:37:35,128 --> 00:37:37,005
which breaks down to form mercury.
742
00:37:37,130 --> 00:37:37,965
It was a preservative,
743
00:37:38,090 --> 00:37:41,135
it was unnecessary
to add to the vaccines.
744
00:37:41,260 --> 00:37:44,555
And we saw during that period
a dramatic increase
745
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,265
in neurological disorders
among American children
746
00:37:47,392 --> 00:37:51,728
speech delay, language delay,
Dyslexia, and autism.
747
00:37:52,187 --> 00:37:55,817
- When he was born,my son was very alert.
748
00:37:55,942 --> 00:37:57,985
He was born
with a head full of hair
749
00:37:58,110 --> 00:38:02,532
and then my son had been
vaccinated for hepatitis B.
750
00:38:02,657 --> 00:38:04,658
His hair fell out.
751
00:38:04,783 --> 00:38:07,578
He was just not as alert.
752
00:38:07,703 --> 00:38:10,622
I was trying to read everything
I could get my hands on
753
00:38:10,748 --> 00:38:13,625
to find out
what happened to my son.
754
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:16,212
And there was a young lady
in the hospital
755
00:38:16,337 --> 00:38:21,342
who had given me a pamphlet on
what the vaccines might contain
756
00:38:21,467 --> 00:38:23,802
and the mercury just stood out.
757
00:38:23,927 --> 00:38:25,763
-When we had our meeting with CDC
758
00:38:25,888 --> 00:38:27,473
and we shared all of our concerns,
759
00:38:27,598 --> 00:38:30,267
they sat and listened patiently
760
00:38:30,392 --> 00:38:31,227
and then at the end
of the meeting,
761
00:38:31,352 --> 00:38:33,270
they handed us
this one page paper
762
00:38:33,395 --> 00:38:35,690
saying that they had looked
at this already
763
00:38:35,815 --> 00:38:37,400
and they found
no evidence of harm.
764
00:38:37,525 --> 00:38:38,525
Everything was fine.
765
00:38:39,068 --> 00:38:42,655
So we decided
to file FOIA documents
766
00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:45,407
to get all of the records
not only from CDC
767
00:38:45,532 --> 00:38:47,827
but also from FDA at the time.
768
00:38:48,327 --> 00:38:49,953
And it took a while
to get those,
769
00:38:50,078 --> 00:38:52,373
but when we did get them
770
00:38:52,832 --> 00:38:54,792
it was obvious
going through those records,
771
00:38:54,917 --> 00:38:57,168
along with all
their internal emails,
772
00:38:57,293 --> 00:38:59,422
that Mercury is incredibly toxic.
773
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,757
And they were very concerned
774
00:39:01,882 --> 00:39:04,635
and they had actually found
statistically significant
775
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,762
associations between exposure
776
00:39:06,887 --> 00:39:09,432
to Thimerosal and ADD, ADHD,
777
00:39:09,557 --> 00:39:12,435
speech and language delays
and also autism.
778
00:39:13,268 --> 00:39:14,437
What I've been saying is
779
00:39:14,562 --> 00:39:16,522
people are going to be
frightened about vaccines
780
00:39:16,647 --> 00:39:19,233
if they don't trust
the federal regulators
781
00:39:19,358 --> 00:39:20,777
to be honest
with the American people.
782
00:39:20,902 --> 00:39:22,487
There was one arm of the FDA
783
00:39:22,612 --> 00:39:24,738
that dealt with
over the counter products
784
00:39:24,863 --> 00:39:26,740
and they had done
all these investigations
785
00:39:26,865 --> 00:39:27,825
back in the eighties
786
00:39:27,950 --> 00:39:31,662
and found out that Thimerosal
used in contact lens drops
787
00:39:31,787 --> 00:39:35,373
and over the counter
products actually wasn't safe.
788
00:39:35,498 --> 00:39:38,210
And so, they had made
a recommendation
789
00:39:38,335 --> 00:39:41,047
that it be removed
from over the counter products,
790
00:39:42,088 --> 00:39:43,548
but CBER,
791
00:39:43,673 --> 00:39:46,260
the Center for Biologics
Evaluation and Research,
792
00:39:46,385 --> 00:39:48,762
which is the ones who
oversee vaccines,
793
00:39:48,887 --> 00:39:50,013
they left it in.
794
00:39:50,138 --> 00:39:52,223
So how can you have one arm
of an agency
795
00:39:52,348 --> 00:39:56,062
saying Thimerosal is toxic
and we shouldn't be using it,
796
00:39:56,187 --> 00:40:00,482
and another arm of the agency
injecting it into our children?
797
00:40:00,607 --> 00:40:03,610
- And this convincedBobby that the agency, again,
798
00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:05,737
that was supposed to be protecting people,
799
00:40:05,863 --> 00:40:09,533
was in league with these
pharmaceutical companies.
800
00:40:09,658 --> 00:40:12,202
So it became
a big part of what he began
801
00:40:12,327 --> 00:40:14,037
to speak about publicly.
802
00:40:14,163 --> 00:40:16,582
- If thesevaccine makers are allowing
803
00:40:16,707 --> 00:40:19,127
a certain compound
into these vaccinations
804
00:40:19,252 --> 00:40:21,628
that's causing autism
and they now know it,
805
00:40:22,463 --> 00:40:24,005
why are they fighting so hard?
806
00:40:24,132 --> 00:40:25,883
-Well, how many of us
would want to admit
807
00:40:26,008 --> 00:40:27,635
that a decision we made
had poisoned
808
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,928
a whole generation
of American children?
809
00:40:30,387 --> 00:40:32,973
- Now Thimerosalwas taken out of vaccines
810
00:40:33,098 --> 00:40:35,392
after this outcry began.
811
00:40:35,517 --> 00:40:36,893
- I appreciate you
getting the word out.
812
00:40:37,018 --> 00:40:40,313
And I know parents of kids
with autism truly appreciate it
813
00:40:40,438 --> 00:40:41,607
and I know that it's a very
difficult thing for them
814
00:40:41,732 --> 00:40:44,402
to be dealing with, so I'm sure they
appreciate the help.
815
00:40:45,485 --> 00:40:47,655
- The NRDC was not happy
816
00:40:47,780 --> 00:40:50,532
with his taking onthis vaccine issue,
817
00:40:50,657 --> 00:40:53,077
nor was these various groupsthat he had worked with
818
00:40:53,202 --> 00:40:54,703
for many, many years
819
00:40:54,828 --> 00:40:57,455
and people began to urge him
to get away from this issue
820
00:40:57,582 --> 00:40:59,250
and he refused to do it.
821
00:40:59,375 --> 00:41:03,753
So he wrote a big article
for Salon and Rolling Stone.
822
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:07,592
What Bobby discovered
was back in 1986,
823
00:41:07,717 --> 00:41:10,385
during the Reagan years,
the vaccine manufacturers
824
00:41:10,510 --> 00:41:14,348
were granted no liability
from prosecution.
825
00:41:14,473 --> 00:41:15,765
Pharma went to Congress
826
00:41:15,892 --> 00:41:19,687
and worked out a deal where
there would be a fund set up,
827
00:41:19,812 --> 00:41:24,358
the vaccine injury fund,
that pharma pays no money into.
828
00:41:24,483 --> 00:41:27,152
So the government,
they're handing out these
829
00:41:27,277 --> 00:41:30,907
multimillion dollar awards
to children damaged by vaccines,
830
00:41:31,032 --> 00:41:34,202
but simultaneously saying
they are unequivocally safe.
831
00:41:35,202 --> 00:41:36,912
- There was a turning point
832
00:41:37,037 --> 00:41:39,832
where Bobby Jr. and Sarah Bridges
833
00:41:39,957 --> 00:41:41,333
went to a meeting
at the New York Times
834
00:41:41,458 --> 00:41:44,420
to try to get the New York Times
into the vaccine issue.
835
00:41:44,545 --> 00:41:46,880
- The main editor
said, can't do it.
836
00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:49,342
Not, you're wrong.
837
00:41:49,467 --> 00:41:51,510
Not, let's look more
deeply into this.
838
00:41:51,635 --> 00:41:53,178
Said, "Can't do it."
839
00:41:53,303 --> 00:41:55,932
"Big pharma is our biggest donor."
840
00:41:57,182 --> 00:41:58,683
And that was the end of that.
841
00:41:59,518 --> 00:42:01,937
- Suddenly
he couldn't write op-eds anymore
842
00:42:02,395 --> 00:42:04,063
and he couldn't even
eventually get a letter
843
00:42:04,188 --> 00:42:05,648
to the editor published
844
00:42:06,233 --> 00:42:07,568
after writing op-eds
845
00:42:07,693 --> 00:42:10,403
about environmental issues
for the New York Times
846
00:42:10,528 --> 00:42:12,280
and many,
many places for years,
847
00:42:12,405 --> 00:42:14,783
being declared
a Hero of the Planet.
848
00:42:14,908 --> 00:42:19,078
And then in 2011,
Salon retracted the article
849
00:42:19,203 --> 00:42:21,915
that he had written back,
some years before.
850
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,293
- Suddenly theNew York Times would be like,
851
00:42:25,418 --> 00:42:28,172
these are crazy people.
852
00:42:28,297 --> 00:42:31,300
And that's when
the label of anti-vaxxer
853
00:42:31,425 --> 00:42:34,010
and conspiracy theorists came about.
854
00:42:34,845 --> 00:42:39,392
- And what Bobby'sabout is making vaccines safe.
855
00:42:39,517 --> 00:42:42,227
And it's not about
not having the vaccines.
856
00:42:42,352 --> 00:42:47,107
That's a part of a conversation
that always gets pushed aside.
857
00:42:47,232 --> 00:42:48,442
-It's pretty stunning to see
858
00:42:48,567 --> 00:42:51,445
how quickly Bobby moved from
person of the year
859
00:42:51,570 --> 00:42:54,155
on environmental issues,
such a thought leader,
860
00:42:54,282 --> 00:42:55,865
to a total pariah.
861
00:42:57,075 --> 00:43:00,328
- It was the beginningof a very painful period.
862
00:43:07,962 --> 00:43:09,253
- Just haven't
decided what I'm going to do
863
00:43:09,380 --> 00:43:10,088
in the future.
864
00:43:13,258 --> 00:43:14,635
Well, I just don't know
what I'm going to do
865
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,595
and I just have
to leave it like that.
866
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:18,513
I just don't know what I'll do.
867
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:25,145
Oh, well, I might like to be
associated with a university.
868
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:34,363
Teaching, maybe, going
to school perhaps.
869
00:43:34,488 --> 00:43:35,363
I don’t know.
870
00:43:37,658 --> 00:43:39,493
After his brother's murder,
871
00:43:39,618 --> 00:43:43,497
Bobby Kennedy's prone
to great bouts of depression.
872
00:43:44,122 --> 00:43:46,917
I think Bobby was
suicidally depressed.
873
00:43:47,710 --> 00:43:51,713
And during this dark time,
he's asked again and again,
874
00:43:51,838 --> 00:43:56,010
did Lee Harvey Oswald really
kill your brother on his own?
875
00:43:56,927 --> 00:43:59,347
Do you believe
in the lone gunman theory?
876
00:44:00,305 --> 00:44:03,225
And this has to be painful
for Bobby Kennedy
877
00:44:03,350 --> 00:44:07,020
because he alone knows that
he's probably the only one
878
00:44:07,145 --> 00:44:09,648
who can get to the bottom
of what really happened
879
00:44:09,773 --> 00:44:10,898
to his brother.
880
00:44:12,860 --> 00:44:14,528
- Something hashappened in the motorcade route.
881
00:44:14,653 --> 00:44:15,862
Standby please.
882
00:44:18,407 --> 00:44:21,160
- Bobby Kennedygot a call from J. Edgar Hoover,
883
00:44:21,285 --> 00:44:24,455
the head of the FBI,
who coldly informed him
884
00:44:24,580 --> 00:44:26,248
that your brother's been killed.
885
00:44:28,375 --> 00:44:29,333
That was it.
886
00:44:29,460 --> 00:44:30,502
Hoover hung up the phone.
887
00:44:31,420 --> 00:44:32,587
Immediately, Bobby Kennedy
888
00:44:32,713 --> 00:44:34,130
realizes two things.
889
00:44:34,673 --> 00:44:37,383
The man that he's deeply devoted to,
890
00:44:37,508 --> 00:44:41,472
his brother who he loves dearly,
is now dead.
891
00:44:42,055 --> 00:44:44,892
And number two,
whatever authority he has
892
00:44:45,017 --> 00:44:48,437
as Attorney General is now
disappearing by the minute.
893
00:44:49,062 --> 00:44:51,190
He has only hours maybe
894
00:44:51,315 --> 00:44:53,442
to get to the bottom of the crime.
895
00:44:53,567 --> 00:44:54,610
Did you shoot the president?
896
00:44:54,735 --> 00:44:56,487
-I didn't shoot anybody. No sir.
897
00:44:57,487 --> 00:44:58,988
I'm just a patsy!
898
00:45:00,157 --> 00:45:01,908
He immediately suspected
899
00:45:02,033 --> 00:45:04,327
there was not a lone gunman
900
00:45:04,453 --> 00:45:06,247
because the people there that day,
901
00:45:06,372 --> 00:45:09,417
his closest aids
who were World War II veterans,
902
00:45:09,542 --> 00:45:10,792
knew the sound of gunfire
903
00:45:10,917 --> 00:45:14,128
and told him
we were riding into an ambush.
904
00:45:14,253 --> 00:45:15,547
It was a crossfire.
905
00:45:16,215 --> 00:45:18,800
So where did he look
in trying to figure out
906
00:45:18,925 --> 00:45:21,220
what had happened to his brother?
907
00:45:21,345 --> 00:45:23,888
His first call was to the CIA
908
00:45:24,013 --> 00:45:25,973
and said,
"Did you guys kill my brother?"
909
00:45:26,850 --> 00:45:30,562
Bobby was worried that they
had pushed the CIA really hard
910
00:45:30,687 --> 00:45:34,525
on not invading Cuba
after the Cuban Missile Crisis.
911
00:45:34,650 --> 00:45:36,110
And that had been the response.
912
00:45:36,235 --> 00:45:38,237
- Report that thepresident was hit in the head.
913
00:45:38,362 --> 00:45:40,280
Bobby Kennedy also suspected
914
00:45:40,405 --> 00:45:43,992
that the right wing anti-Castroexiles were involved somehow.
915
00:45:44,117 --> 00:45:45,827
Exiles who were embittered
916
00:45:45,952 --> 00:45:48,788
by what had happened with JFKduring the Bay of Pigs
917
00:45:48,913 --> 00:45:51,458
and then comingto an accommodation with Castro
918
00:45:51,583 --> 00:45:53,585
during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
919
00:45:53,710 --> 00:45:56,213
- And who was thethird party that he suspected
920
00:45:56,338 --> 00:45:58,673
in the assassinationof his brother?
921
00:45:58,798 --> 00:46:00,592
- There is Leo.
922
00:46:02,010 --> 00:46:03,053
He's been shot.
923
00:46:03,178 --> 00:46:04,972
Lee Oswald has been shot.
924
00:46:05,097 --> 00:46:06,640
There's a man with a gun.
925
00:46:06,765 --> 00:46:07,892
-I was standing
in the White House
926
00:46:08,017 --> 00:46:08,933
in the East Room
927
00:46:09,058 --> 00:46:12,145
and we were standing next
to my uncle's casket.
928
00:46:12,270 --> 00:46:16,775
Lyndon Johnson came in
and told my father and Jackie
929
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:19,653
and my mother
who were standing there with me
930
00:46:19,778 --> 00:46:24,783
that a man named Jack Ruby
just killed Lee Harvey Oswald.
931
00:46:25,950 --> 00:46:28,495
And after they
absorbed that information,
932
00:46:28,620 --> 00:46:31,248
I said to my mom,
why did he do that?
933
00:46:31,373 --> 00:46:34,375
Did he do it
because he loved our family?
934
00:46:35,210 --> 00:46:39,130
And so I think anybody who saw
what happened with Jack Ruby
935
00:46:39,255 --> 00:46:40,507
would have that same question.
936
00:46:40,632 --> 00:46:44,093
Why did he do it
in a police station wide open
937
00:46:44,218 --> 00:46:45,720
when he was bound to be caught?
938
00:46:46,805 --> 00:46:49,182
And of course he didn't have
a love for our family.
939
00:46:49,307 --> 00:46:50,850
He had the opposite.
940
00:46:51,893 --> 00:46:53,645
- Who's Jack Ruby?
941
00:46:53,770 --> 00:46:56,857
Bobby Kennedy puts peopleon this right away
942
00:46:56,982 --> 00:46:58,900
and they report back to him within hours.
943
00:46:59,025 --> 00:47:00,318
Jack Ruby is mobbed up.
944
00:47:00,443 --> 00:47:02,070
He's a mob errand boy.
945
00:47:02,778 --> 00:47:04,823
And Jack Ruby's phone records
946
00:47:04,948 --> 00:47:10,120
on the month before the murder
were many, many calls
947
00:47:10,245 --> 00:47:13,332
almost entirely to people
that my dad had indicted.
948
00:47:13,457 --> 00:47:16,000
-I thought only little girls
giggled Mr. Giancana.
949
00:47:17,377 --> 00:47:20,963
- So Bobby Kennedysuspected the CIA.
950
00:47:21,088 --> 00:47:23,300
He knew the mobwas involved somehow
951
00:47:23,425 --> 00:47:26,010
and of coursein the Cuban exile underground,
952
00:47:26,135 --> 00:47:28,638
all three of whichwere working closely together,
953
00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:32,893
they were working togetherto kill a Fidel Castro in Cuba.
954
00:47:33,018 --> 00:47:35,603
And of course Bobby Kennedycame to the conclusion
955
00:47:36,020 --> 00:47:38,898
they turned their guns
on his brother.
956
00:47:51,953 --> 00:47:54,497
He has a lot of guilt
about the assassination.
957
00:47:55,373 --> 00:47:58,002
He thinks he should have
protected his brother.
958
00:47:59,210 --> 00:48:02,088
He thinks he should have seen
this plot coming.
959
00:48:03,382 --> 00:48:06,468
The family all convened
at the White House
960
00:48:06,593 --> 00:48:08,053
preparing for the funeral
961
00:48:08,178 --> 00:48:12,348
and Bobby had said to the family
that day in confidence
962
00:48:12,848 --> 00:48:15,685
we know Jack was killed
by a conspiracy.
963
00:48:16,395 --> 00:48:19,690
We know there were
very powerful forces.
964
00:48:20,148 --> 00:48:23,443
It was a domestic political conspiracy,
965
00:48:23,568 --> 00:48:25,737
but we can't do anything.
966
00:48:25,862 --> 00:48:29,950
My plan is to run for public office
967
00:48:30,075 --> 00:48:32,493
and eventually get back
to the White House
968
00:48:32,618 --> 00:48:34,203
and then I'll have the authority
969
00:48:34,328 --> 00:48:36,290
to get to the bottom of the crime.
970
00:48:37,665 --> 00:48:40,418
But imagine how difficult
that path was for him.
971
00:48:41,127 --> 00:48:42,753
He knew that was years away,
972
00:48:43,422 --> 00:48:46,550
but he knew he had to be patient
and bide his time
973
00:48:46,675 --> 00:48:49,845
until he could bring official resources
974
00:48:49,970 --> 00:48:51,597
to the investigation.
975
00:48:56,017 --> 00:48:59,353
- Who actually firedthe shots that killed Kennedy?
976
00:48:59,478 --> 00:49:01,022
Was there a conspiracy?
977
00:49:01,523 --> 00:49:03,192
The new president, Lyndon Johnson
978
00:49:03,317 --> 00:49:05,693
ordered these questions answered.
979
00:49:05,818 --> 00:49:07,778
- Here you havethis blue ribbon commission
980
00:49:07,903 --> 00:49:10,365
that's supposed to independentlyget to the bottom
981
00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:12,242
of what really happened in Dallas
982
00:49:12,367 --> 00:49:14,745
and right away, it's compromised.
983
00:49:15,412 --> 00:49:16,413
- Basically theWarren Commission
984
00:49:16,538 --> 00:49:20,083
was run by Allen Dulles of the CIA.
985
00:49:20,208 --> 00:49:23,295
Dulles was still very angry
986
00:49:23,420 --> 00:49:26,840
and bitter about his firing
by President Kennedy.
987
00:49:26,965 --> 00:49:29,050
-Fired by Kennedy,
he becomes the most influential
988
00:49:29,175 --> 00:49:30,218
member of the Warren Commission
989
00:49:30,343 --> 00:49:32,262
investigating what happened to Kennedy.
990
00:49:33,013 --> 00:49:35,807
-The Warren Commissionmakes these major findings.
991
00:49:35,932 --> 00:49:38,810
Lee Harvey Oswald assassinatedPresident Kennedy.
992
00:49:38,935 --> 00:49:40,187
He did it alone.
993
00:49:40,312 --> 00:49:41,980
- There is no
credible evidence
994
00:49:42,105 --> 00:49:44,817
that Lee Harvey Oswald
was part of a conspiracy
995
00:49:44,942 --> 00:49:47,360
to assassinate President Kennedy.
996
00:49:47,485 --> 00:49:50,697
- And Bobby Kennedy
knew if he said,
997
00:49:50,822 --> 00:49:53,700
I suspect the story
is bigger than that,
998
00:49:53,825 --> 00:49:57,745
that powerful forces did it,
all hell would break loose.
999
00:49:58,288 --> 00:50:01,248
And he knew it would actually
be traumatic for the country.
1000
00:50:01,792 --> 00:50:04,627
- It would have
impeded his capacity
1001
00:50:04,753 --> 00:50:06,880
to participate in public life.
1002
00:50:07,005 --> 00:50:11,300
So you really, he didn't want
to pick that fight
1003
00:50:11,427 --> 00:50:13,595
and he stayed silent about it.
1004
00:50:24,815 --> 00:50:27,442
- Can you tell us a few
memories of Jack?
1005
00:50:28,152 --> 00:50:29,820
Was he warm with you?
1006
00:50:35,117 --> 00:50:36,993
- My Uncle Jackwas part of my life
1007
00:50:37,118 --> 00:50:38,537
from when I was born.
1008
00:50:39,830 --> 00:50:41,748
He knew how to talk to children.
1009
00:50:41,873 --> 00:50:43,583
He was wonderful with children.
1010
00:50:44,250 --> 00:50:46,377
But for example, I sat next to him
1011
00:50:46,503 --> 00:50:50,465
on the way back
from the convention in 1960.
1012
00:50:51,215 --> 00:50:54,135
I sat in the seat next to him
on the airplane
1013
00:50:54,260 --> 00:50:55,428
and he talked to me
the whole time
1014
00:50:55,553 --> 00:50:58,140
and he had a lot of other things
to do at that point.
1015
00:50:58,807 --> 00:51:00,558
- Well,I think really he made
1016
00:51:00,683 --> 00:51:02,393
Americans feel young again.
1017
00:51:04,062 --> 00:51:07,523
I think that he gave all of us
more confidence in the country
1018
00:51:08,275 --> 00:51:12,195
and that we were dedicated
to certain principles and ideals
1019
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,530
and that we would live up to them
1020
00:51:13,655 --> 00:51:17,283
and if necessary fight for them.
1021
00:51:18,743 --> 00:51:20,495
In the course of this,
1022
00:51:20,620 --> 00:51:23,665
Bobby is still tryingto come to terms with
1023
00:51:23,790 --> 00:51:25,417
what do I do now?
1024
00:51:25,542 --> 00:51:27,543
What was I goingto do with my life?
1025
00:51:28,337 --> 00:51:30,838
- Well,I've thought some of my future
1026
00:51:30,963 --> 00:51:32,298
over the periodof the last few months
1027
00:51:32,423 --> 00:51:34,008
and some people fromNew York and elsewhere
1028
00:51:34,133 --> 00:51:35,843
have spoken to meabout running in New York
1029
00:51:36,512 --> 00:51:39,555
and it's possibility
that I'm considering
1030
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,435
as I'm considering
many other possibilities.
1031
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,187
- Bobby Kennedythen stepped down
1032
00:51:45,312 --> 00:51:47,272
as Attorney Generalof the United States
1033
00:51:47,397 --> 00:51:50,150
and ended up runningfor the Senate in New York.
1034
00:51:50,275 --> 00:51:52,860
- In 1963, the people
in the Plattsburgh area
1035
00:51:52,985 --> 00:51:56,865
paid $12 million
in taxes for schools.
1036
00:51:58,115 --> 00:52:02,287
If my opponent had his way,
your area would've lost...
1037
00:52:02,412 --> 00:52:03,830
I stumbled on it.
1038
00:52:03,955 --> 00:52:07,083
If my opponent had his way,
stop it.
1039
00:52:08,210 --> 00:52:10,628
Go ahead. Tell me.
1040
00:52:10,753 --> 00:52:13,215
I need your help
and support in November.
1041
00:52:19,470 --> 00:52:22,640
- He appreciatesthis tremendous reception,
1042
00:52:23,057 --> 00:52:24,683
but he has a messageto give to you
1043
00:52:24,808 --> 00:52:26,268
and the American people.
1044
00:52:27,312 --> 00:52:33,150
- Chairman McCormick,
I accept your nomination.
1045
00:52:37,322 --> 00:52:40,908
But the gladness
of this high occasion
1046
00:52:41,033 --> 00:52:46,288
cannot mask the sorrow
which shares our heart.
1047
00:52:47,540 --> 00:52:53,380
So let us keep burning
the golden torch of promise,
1048
00:52:53,505 --> 00:52:57,217
which John Fitzgerald Kennedy
set aflame.
1049
00:53:02,763 --> 00:53:06,392
Let us tomorrow
turn to our new path.
1050
00:53:06,517 --> 00:53:08,603
Let us be on our way!
1051
00:53:18,405 --> 00:53:21,950
- And nowit is my privilege and honor
1052
00:53:22,075 --> 00:53:24,618
to introduce Robert Kennedy.
1053
00:53:58,110 --> 00:54:00,947
Mister Chairman.
1054
00:54:14,335 --> 00:54:15,712
Mister Chairman.
1055
00:54:28,015 --> 00:54:31,143
- I request the delegates
1056
00:54:32,228 --> 00:54:35,732
to be seated
1057
00:54:56,712 --> 00:54:59,713
- My father wasshattered after Jack's death.
1058
00:55:01,423 --> 00:55:03,552
And at that convention,
1059
00:55:03,677 --> 00:55:08,305
my father got this
extraordinary outpouring of love
1060
00:55:09,223 --> 00:55:10,600
and he cried.
1061
00:55:12,477 --> 00:55:15,480
One of the few times
anybody had ever seen him cry.
1062
00:55:18,358 --> 00:55:21,737
And he realized that, okay,
maybe I have a future.
1063
00:55:23,572 --> 00:55:26,573
- We want Bobby!
We want Bobby!
1064
00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:28,785
-President Kennedy said
that we have the capacity
1065
00:55:28,910 --> 00:55:31,705
to make this the best generation
in the history of mankind
1066
00:55:31,830 --> 00:55:32,872
or make it the last.
1067
00:55:32,997 --> 00:55:34,457
I think we can make it
the best generation
1068
00:55:34,582 --> 00:55:35,667
in the history of mankind.
1069
00:55:35,792 --> 00:55:36,960
I think all of us
joined together
1070
00:55:37,085 --> 00:55:38,002
can make that difference.
1071
00:55:41,672 --> 00:55:43,633
- He fightsthrough the depression.
1072
00:55:44,258 --> 00:55:45,802
Am I a senator now?
1073
00:55:45,927 --> 00:55:47,470
- You will be.
1074
00:55:47,595 --> 00:55:49,805
I expect that, but...
1075
00:55:49,930 --> 00:55:53,393
- Reading poetsand ancient Greeks
1076
00:55:53,518 --> 00:55:57,938
who give him kind of moreperspective on life
1077
00:55:58,063 --> 00:56:00,108
and history and tragedy.
1078
00:56:01,442 --> 00:56:03,027
Parts of the Greek myths,
1079
00:56:03,152 --> 00:56:05,530
the flawed herowho gets meaning from life
1080
00:56:05,655 --> 00:56:08,825
by acting heroicallyeven if everything fails
1081
00:56:10,493 --> 00:56:11,787
and the plays of Shakespeare.
1082
00:56:11,912 --> 00:56:13,872
And he began reading all of these
1083
00:56:13,997 --> 00:56:17,292
and incorporating them
into his own cosmology.
1084
00:56:17,417 --> 00:56:19,627
And Senator Bobby Kennedy,
1085
00:56:19,752 --> 00:56:22,797
he also had
a spiritual awakening.
1086
00:56:23,673 --> 00:56:27,427
- Bobby Kennedy becamea truly compassionate individual
1087
00:56:28,302 --> 00:56:33,517
and that set him apart from
other people running for office
1088
00:56:33,642 --> 00:56:36,853
and from the way he had been
perceived when he was younger.
1089
00:56:36,978 --> 00:56:40,148
And it was true,
he was a pretty ruthless guy.
1090
00:56:40,273 --> 00:56:41,273
That was no longer true
1091
00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:43,652
and he was a fighter
for the people.
1092
00:56:43,777 --> 00:56:45,278
- I desperatelyneeded that we raise
1093
00:56:45,403 --> 00:56:48,072
the minimum wage to $1.50an hour here in the state.
1094
00:56:48,197 --> 00:56:50,575
To focus attentionon the poisonous fumes
1095
00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:52,827
inflicted on the peoplewho live in this area.
1096
00:56:52,952 --> 00:56:55,288
We've been discussing federal
legislation governing rifles,
1097
00:56:55,413 --> 00:56:58,500
shotguns and hand guns,
aftercare program
1098
00:56:58,625 --> 00:56:59,958
for narcotics addicts.
1099
00:57:00,083 --> 00:57:03,337
The average Indian income is $1,500,
1100
00:57:03,463 --> 00:57:06,132
75% below the national average.
1101
00:57:06,715 --> 00:57:08,383
We don't think
that it's acceptable,
1102
00:57:08,510 --> 00:57:09,385
as I've said before,
1103
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:11,762
with the gross national product
that this country has,
1104
00:57:11,888 --> 00:57:14,015
with the great amount of wealth
that this country has,
1105
00:57:14,140 --> 00:57:15,892
that we still have people
who can't find jobs.
1106
00:57:16,017 --> 00:57:18,478
We still have children
who don't have enough to eat
1107
00:57:18,603 --> 00:57:20,230
and don't have clothes to wear.
1108
00:57:21,272 --> 00:57:23,525
- The attributehe most admired in someone was
1109
00:57:23,650 --> 00:57:25,193
if they had moral courage,
1110
00:57:25,318 --> 00:57:28,195
if they were willing
to stand on their ideals
1111
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,282
against all odds sometimes.
1112
00:57:30,407 --> 00:57:31,698
- And he decided,
1113
00:57:31,825 --> 00:57:33,450
that he would buckthe Democratic party,
1114
00:57:33,577 --> 00:57:35,620
the Democratic establishment
1115
00:57:35,745 --> 00:57:37,747
and the military industrial complex.
1116
00:57:37,872 --> 00:57:41,918
We had, we'd been waging
this stupid war for so long
1117
00:57:42,043 --> 00:57:44,837
and 50,000 Americans died
1118
00:57:46,965 --> 00:57:48,883
and he didn't care
what happened to him.
1119
00:58:08,653 --> 00:58:12,657
-A Southeast Asia
dominated by communist power
1120
00:58:12,782 --> 00:58:18,622
would bring a third world war
much closer to terrible reality.
1121
00:58:23,918 --> 00:58:26,378
Since I reported to you last January,
1122
00:58:26,503 --> 00:58:30,508
the enemy has been defeated
in battle after battle.
1123
00:58:33,177 --> 00:58:35,930
- At this point
in the Democratic party,
1124
00:58:36,597 --> 00:58:40,268
it was wrong to speak out
against the Vietnam War.
1125
00:58:40,977 --> 00:58:43,145
- The war
in Vietnam has escalated
1126
00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:44,605
at a fantastic rate.
1127
00:58:44,730 --> 00:58:48,317
- Do you see
any immediate solution?
1128
00:58:48,902 --> 00:58:51,403
- There will be some
who will become frustrated
1129
00:58:51,528 --> 00:58:54,448
and bothered and break ranks
under the strain
1130
00:58:54,948 --> 00:58:56,742
and some will turn
on their leaders
1131
00:58:56,867 --> 00:59:00,078
and on their country
and on our own fighting men.
1132
00:59:00,203 --> 00:59:01,872
-Would you be inclined to oppose
1133
00:59:01,998 --> 00:59:03,540
further escalation of the war?
1134
00:59:04,167 --> 00:59:05,960
- I think firstthat we should make this major
1135
00:59:06,085 --> 00:59:08,630
kind of effortto find a peaceful solution,
1136
00:59:08,755 --> 00:59:09,922
and I think that's vital
1137
00:59:10,047 --> 00:59:11,090
no matter what the turn of events
1138
00:59:11,215 --> 00:59:12,842
might be in the next few months.
1139
00:59:16,137 --> 00:59:17,805
- The holiday was Tet--
1140
00:59:17,930 --> 00:59:19,057
the Lunar New Year.
1141
00:59:19,557 --> 00:59:22,352
The enemy, very deceitfully
1142
00:59:22,477 --> 00:59:25,438
has taken advantage
of the Tet truce.
1143
00:59:25,563 --> 00:59:26,605
The Viet Kong had chosen
1144
00:59:26,730 --> 00:59:28,775
a number of strategic targets,
1145
00:59:28,900 --> 00:59:31,527
a suicide attackin the American Embassy.
1146
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,488
The Tet Offensive in 1968
1147
00:59:34,613 --> 00:59:36,407
showed that
we were not winning this war
1148
00:59:36,532 --> 00:59:39,535
as we'd been assured by the
powers that be in Washington.
1149
00:59:40,745 --> 00:59:44,415
It was an awakening,
especially for Bobby.
1150
00:59:44,707 --> 00:59:48,127
- There is noreal dialogue about Vietnam.
1151
00:59:48,252 --> 00:59:51,088
We frequently won't let those
who disagree with us speak.
1152
00:59:51,965 --> 00:59:54,175
I think it's a very, very bad mistake.
1153
00:59:54,717 --> 00:59:57,928
The whole country suffers
and our society suffers.
1154
00:59:58,262 --> 00:59:59,805
- After the Tet Offensive,
1155
00:59:59,930 --> 01:00:02,808
the establishmentwas still behind Johnson
1156
01:00:02,933 --> 01:00:06,437
and trying to keep the party together.
1157
01:00:07,188 --> 01:00:09,523
We will stand firm in Vietnam.
1158
01:00:13,443 --> 01:00:15,405
- But Bobbyquickly saw that the war
1159
01:00:15,530 --> 01:00:17,532
was turning into a disaster.
1160
01:00:18,282 --> 01:00:19,992
- This will make itnecessary to raise
1161
01:00:20,117 --> 01:00:26,373
a monthly draft callfrom 17,000 to 35,000 per month.
1162
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,712
Somebody wrote on the pyramids
1163
01:00:32,130 --> 01:00:33,588
at the time
they were being constructed,
1164
01:00:33,715 --> 01:00:36,550
the words and no one
was angry enough to speak out.
1165
01:00:37,177 --> 01:00:39,637
I think people should be
angry enough to speak out.
1166
01:00:40,513 --> 01:00:41,722
if one feels involved in it,
1167
01:00:41,847 --> 01:00:43,767
that one should try to do
something about it.
1168
01:00:51,773 --> 01:00:53,275
Our people and this nation
1169
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,862
must be told the truthabout this war
1170
01:00:57,197 --> 01:00:59,532
in all its terrible reality,
1171
01:00:59,657 --> 01:01:01,325
both because it is right,
1172
01:01:01,950 --> 01:01:03,828
both because it is right
1173
01:01:03,953 --> 01:01:06,205
and because the progress
that we have claimed
1174
01:01:06,330 --> 01:01:08,833
toward increasing control
over the country
1175
01:01:08,958 --> 01:01:11,168
and the security
of the population
1176
01:01:11,293 --> 01:01:13,253
is largely illusionary.
1177
01:01:13,922 --> 01:01:17,717
The best way to save our most
precious stake in Vietnam,
1178
01:01:18,050 --> 01:01:19,885
the lives of our soldiers,
1179
01:01:20,302 --> 01:01:22,930
is to stop
the enlargement of the war.
1180
01:01:23,513 --> 01:01:25,892
And that the best way
to end casualties
1181
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,060
is to end the war.
1182
01:01:33,648 --> 01:01:35,443
This was an earthquake
1183
01:01:35,568 --> 01:01:38,905
that Bobby would come
out so much against the war.
1184
01:01:40,322 --> 01:01:42,575
This sent shock waves
through the establishment
1185
01:01:42,700 --> 01:01:46,828
and people were furious at him
for speaking out about this.
1186
01:01:46,953 --> 01:01:48,748
-President Johnson said,
1187
01:01:48,873 --> 01:01:50,040
if you persisted in that line,
1188
01:01:50,165 --> 01:01:52,793
it would end
your political career rapidly.
1189
01:01:53,418 --> 01:01:55,713
- All of it makesBobby look like a great hero
1190
01:01:55,838 --> 01:01:58,132
and makes me look likea son of a bitch.
1191
01:01:58,257 --> 01:02:00,593
- Suddenly therewas tremendous opposition
1192
01:02:00,718 --> 01:02:03,637
to the Vietnam policiesthat Johnson was advocating.
1193
01:02:03,763 --> 01:02:04,847
We don't say that we're never
1194
01:02:04,972 --> 01:02:06,432
going to disagree.
1195
01:02:06,557 --> 01:02:08,350
I think that there's much
to disagree about,
1196
01:02:08,475 --> 01:02:10,520
and I think it's within
the Democratic party
1197
01:02:10,645 --> 01:02:12,062
that we should have dissent.
1198
01:02:12,188 --> 01:02:15,942
I am at the moment
reassessing what I should do
1199
01:02:16,067 --> 01:02:18,568
as not only as a member
of the Democratic Party,
1200
01:02:18,693 --> 01:02:21,697
but more importantly
as a United States citizen.
1201
01:02:22,115 --> 01:02:23,825
- And thenRobert Kennedy announced
1202
01:02:23,950 --> 01:02:25,325
he was going to run
for president.
1203
01:02:26,077 --> 01:02:27,870
-I run to seek new policies,
1204
01:02:27,995 --> 01:02:30,998
policies to end
the bloodshed in Vietnam
1205
01:02:31,123 --> 01:02:33,708
before it further saps our spirit.
1206
01:02:33,835 --> 01:02:36,295
- Civil rights,poverty in America,
1207
01:02:36,420 --> 01:02:37,630
the war in Vietnam.
1208
01:02:37,755 --> 01:02:40,257
That's why he's running
mainly for the presidency.
1209
01:02:40,382 --> 01:02:41,967
Those major themes.
1210
01:02:44,178 --> 01:02:46,222
- Two weeks afterRobert Kennedy announced
1211
01:02:46,347 --> 01:02:47,640
he was going to run for President,
1212
01:02:47,765 --> 01:02:49,642
Johnson sawthe handwriting on the wall.
1213
01:02:49,767 --> 01:02:51,018
-I shall not seek
1214
01:02:51,477 --> 01:02:56,023
and I will not accept
the nomination of my party
1215
01:02:56,148 --> 01:02:58,358
for another term
as your president.
1216
01:02:58,818 --> 01:03:01,237
- Lyndon Johnsonwas bowing out of the race--
1217
01:03:01,362 --> 01:03:02,738
that opened it up.
1218
01:03:03,363 --> 01:03:06,117
- The Senator
has spoken out often on Vietnam,
1219
01:03:06,242 --> 01:03:07,535
civil rights, and poverty.
1220
01:03:07,660 --> 01:03:10,497
And each time he has taken
a minority position.
1221
01:03:10,622 --> 01:03:12,873
- I think we can findanswers to these problems.
1222
01:03:12,998 --> 01:03:14,917
I think we can make progress.
1223
01:03:15,042 --> 01:03:17,085
- Robert Kennedyis the only man
1224
01:03:17,212 --> 01:03:20,130
that can do the job
that we need done.
1225
01:03:20,255 --> 01:03:21,507
- Is there a second choice?
1226
01:03:22,175 --> 01:03:24,677
-There is no second choice
as far as we're concerned.
1227
01:03:25,135 --> 01:03:27,095
Senator Robert Kennedy,
1228
01:03:27,222 --> 01:03:30,140
he was foreseeing a country
that was leaving
1229
01:03:30,265 --> 01:03:31,725
a lot of people behind.
1230
01:03:32,142 --> 01:03:34,395
He was making alliances
with small businessmen,
1231
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,230
with farmers,
with union members,
1232
01:03:36,355 --> 01:03:37,648
with Republicans.
1233
01:03:38,232 --> 01:03:39,233
- At the same time,
1234
01:03:39,358 --> 01:03:42,110
Bobby Kennedy took onthe military industrial complex.
1235
01:03:42,237 --> 01:03:44,572
- I don't acceptthe idea of Vietnam
1236
01:03:44,697 --> 01:03:46,865
as just a military action,
1237
01:03:46,990 --> 01:03:49,285
that this isjust a military effort.
1238
01:03:49,827 --> 01:03:52,622
Every time we have had
difficulties in South Vietnam
1239
01:03:52,747 --> 01:03:56,208
and Southeast Asia,
we have had only one response.
1240
01:03:56,333 --> 01:03:58,460
And that's to send
more military men
1241
01:03:58,585 --> 01:04:00,337
and increase our military power.
1242
01:04:00,462 --> 01:04:02,047
And I don't think
that's the kind of a struggle
1243
01:04:02,172 --> 01:04:03,632
that it is in Southeast Asia.
1244
01:04:08,553 --> 01:04:10,848
America was a great force
in the world
1245
01:04:10,973 --> 01:04:12,558
with immense prestige
1246
01:04:12,683 --> 01:04:15,978
long before we became
a great military power.
1247
01:04:18,647 --> 01:04:20,023
The generals in the army,
1248
01:04:20,148 --> 01:04:20,983
they knew him.
1249
01:04:21,108 --> 01:04:23,152
They didn't like him,they didn't trust him.
1250
01:04:23,277 --> 01:04:25,112
They felt he hada completely different agenda.
1251
01:04:25,237 --> 01:04:28,282
He wanted to end the war,
bring our troops home.
1252
01:04:28,407 --> 01:04:31,910
And Bobby also saw that
Bell Helicopter and Hughes
1253
01:04:32,035 --> 01:04:34,913
we're making a fortune
selling helicopters
1254
01:04:35,038 --> 01:04:37,250
to the army in Vietnam.
1255
01:04:37,375 --> 01:04:40,335
And the CIA,
they're running drugs,
1256
01:04:40,460 --> 01:04:42,838
they're trying out new tactics.
1257
01:04:42,963 --> 01:04:45,340
They're trying out
expensive new weapons
1258
01:04:45,465 --> 01:04:47,760
like Monsanto's Agent Orange.
1259
01:04:49,178 --> 01:04:53,473
There is a ton of money
being made off this terrible war
1260
01:04:54,017 --> 01:04:56,310
and the military
industrial complex,
1261
01:04:56,435 --> 01:04:58,520
they didn't want it taken away.
1262
01:05:02,942 --> 01:05:04,777
Agent Orange was a defoliant,
1263
01:05:04,902 --> 01:05:06,320
one of those new weapons of war
1264
01:05:06,445 --> 01:05:08,863
supposed to turn the tide in Vietnam.
1265
01:05:08,990 --> 01:05:11,867
It was sprayed over5 million acres of South Vietnam
1266
01:05:11,992 --> 01:05:14,662
from 1962 to 1970.
1267
01:05:14,787 --> 01:05:17,540
- It was one waywe were going to win the war--
1268
01:05:17,665 --> 01:05:19,708
dump herbicidesall over the jungle
1269
01:05:19,833 --> 01:05:22,628
so the Viet Kongwould come out and fight.
1270
01:05:23,128 --> 01:05:24,963
Its use was restricted in 1970
1271
01:05:25,088 --> 01:05:27,550
because tests showedthe ingredients in Agent Orange
1272
01:05:27,675 --> 01:05:30,302
caused cancer and birth defects.
1273
01:05:31,595 --> 01:05:34,015
- Newly-releasedcourt documents indicate
1274
01:05:34,140 --> 01:05:36,392
that the companieswhich manufactured Agent Orange
1275
01:05:36,517 --> 01:05:40,395
knew as far back as the 1960s
that one of its ingredients
1276
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,190
contained the toxic contaminant dioxin.
1277
01:05:43,315 --> 01:05:45,777
- A lethalingredient in Agent Orange.
1278
01:05:46,485 --> 01:05:47,570
The government has now agreed
1279
01:05:47,695 --> 01:05:50,280
to pay $8 million a year to veterans.
1280
01:05:50,405 --> 01:05:51,490
Over the next six years,
1281
01:05:51,615 --> 01:05:54,285
the fund will pay out at leasta quarter of a billion dollars
1282
01:05:54,410 --> 01:05:55,870
to veterans and their families,
1283
01:05:55,995 --> 01:05:58,247
including children not yet born.
1284
01:05:58,955 --> 01:06:00,875
Monsanto has been involved in
1285
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:05,628
some of the worst environmentalcatastrophes in this country.
1286
01:06:05,755 --> 01:06:08,340
It was the creator
of Agent Orange.
1287
01:06:08,465 --> 01:06:10,550
It was the creator of DDT.
1288
01:06:11,177 --> 01:06:13,220
I've been litigating
against Monsanto
1289
01:06:13,345 --> 01:06:16,307
since I became an environmental
lawyer 35 years ago.
1290
01:06:17,098 --> 01:06:20,060
- You have quite
a long history with Monsanto.
1291
01:06:20,185 --> 01:06:22,938
I mean there's the Monsanto
story in your life
1292
01:06:23,063 --> 01:06:25,523
seems to start because
of Rachel Carson's book,
1293
01:06:25,648 --> 01:06:26,900
Silent Spring.
1294
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,195
Was that the origin?
1295
01:06:30,028 --> 01:06:31,238
-You know,
when I was a little kid,
1296
01:06:31,363 --> 01:06:34,075
I'd wanted to be
a scientist or a vet.
1297
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,287
I wanted to be like a field
biologist like Rachel Carson.
1298
01:06:38,412 --> 01:06:41,207
One night,
my uncle Jack and my father
1299
01:06:41,332 --> 01:06:43,542
had her over to Cape Cod.
1300
01:06:43,667 --> 01:06:46,920
I got to meet her
and that was really important
1301
01:06:47,045 --> 01:06:50,215
because she really became my hero.
1302
01:06:50,842 --> 01:06:52,217
Biologist Rachel Carson,
1303
01:06:52,342 --> 01:06:54,053
worked four yearsin the preparation
1304
01:06:54,178 --> 01:06:55,637
of Silent Spring.
1305
01:06:55,763 --> 01:06:57,055
What she wrote has been called
1306
01:06:57,180 --> 01:06:59,100
the most controversial bookof the year.
1307
01:07:00,893 --> 01:07:01,810
Up until that time,
1308
01:07:01,935 --> 01:07:05,563
nobody had any problemwith pesticides like DDT.
1309
01:07:05,688 --> 01:07:08,233
- These insectscan now be completely wiped out
1310
01:07:08,358 --> 01:07:11,153
by manmade fogs,loaded with DDT.
1311
01:07:11,278 --> 01:07:13,405
- Pesticidesand the chemical industry
1312
01:07:13,530 --> 01:07:15,282
were putting us on topof the world.
1313
01:07:15,407 --> 01:07:17,242
We were going to haveabundant food for everybody.
1314
01:07:17,367 --> 01:07:19,495
We were going to get ridof all the pests.
1315
01:07:19,620 --> 01:07:24,500
And Rachel Carson came along
and said, yeah,
1316
01:07:25,333 --> 01:07:28,962
but actually pesticides,
were imposing huge costs
1317
01:07:29,088 --> 01:07:30,463
that we're not seeing.
1318
01:07:38,472 --> 01:07:42,058
Rachel Carson wrote
Silent Spring in '62
1319
01:07:42,183 --> 01:07:44,103
and it alerted people
for the first time
1320
01:07:44,228 --> 01:07:48,148
that DDT is killing
not just the predatory insects,
1321
01:07:48,273 --> 01:07:51,277
it's killing all the insects,
killing the worms.
1322
01:07:51,402 --> 01:07:52,778
The fish are dying,
1323
01:07:52,903 --> 01:07:54,738
the songbirds are disappearing.
1324
01:07:54,863 --> 01:07:56,865
The spring is going to be silent
1325
01:07:57,323 --> 01:07:59,618
because there's going to be
no bird song.
1326
01:08:02,830 --> 01:08:06,250
She became an enormous threat
to the pesticide industry.
1327
01:08:07,333 --> 01:08:10,880
Monsanto, which was the
manufacturer of DDT,
1328
01:08:11,547 --> 01:08:14,633
they mounted a nationwide
campaign against Rachel Carson
1329
01:08:14,758 --> 01:08:16,052
to discredit her.
1330
01:08:16,177 --> 01:08:21,432
They had Life Magazine,
Time Magazine all write attacks,
1331
01:08:21,557 --> 01:08:23,142
vicious attacks on her.
1332
01:08:23,725 --> 01:08:25,768
They used the same talking points.
1333
01:08:25,895 --> 01:08:26,937
She's a quack.
1334
01:08:27,062 --> 01:08:29,773
She's anti-science.
1335
01:08:29,898 --> 01:08:31,817
- Thiscourageous woman had taken on
1336
01:08:31,942 --> 01:08:36,363
the powers that be showing
the dangers of DDT
1337
01:08:36,488 --> 01:08:40,700
and was just vilified
and taken apart by Monsanto.
1338
01:08:41,452 --> 01:08:44,372
-They had scientists
going around the country
1339
01:08:44,497 --> 01:08:47,040
doing speeches condemning her.
1340
01:08:47,332 --> 01:08:50,585
- The major claims
in Ms. Rachel Carson's book
1341
01:08:50,710 --> 01:08:54,340
are completely unsupported
by scientific evidence
1342
01:08:54,465 --> 01:08:57,593
are gross distortions
of the actual facts.
1343
01:08:57,718 --> 01:08:59,387
This became the blueprint
1344
01:08:59,512 --> 01:09:03,557
for all the other industries
for how do you discredit
1345
01:09:03,682 --> 01:09:06,185
and destroy your critics.
1346
01:09:06,977 --> 01:09:10,147
Rachel Carson
never defended herself
1347
01:09:11,315 --> 01:09:13,650
because she was dying
of cancer at the time.
1348
01:09:15,652 --> 01:09:18,447
And my uncle
commissioned a group.
1349
01:09:18,572 --> 01:09:22,952
He got Jerome Wiesner,
who is a scientific advisor
1350
01:09:23,077 --> 01:09:25,370
to bring together
a group of scientists
1351
01:09:25,495 --> 01:09:28,165
to actually read her book line by line.
1352
01:09:28,290 --> 01:09:29,375
The administration announced
1353
01:09:29,500 --> 01:09:31,293
that the government pesticide program
1354
01:09:31,418 --> 01:09:32,878
would be reviewed by a panel
1355
01:09:33,003 --> 01:09:35,047
of the President's Science Committee.
1356
01:09:35,172 --> 01:09:37,007
-I think particularly, of course
1357
01:09:37,132 --> 01:09:37,967
it's Ms. Carson's book,
1358
01:09:38,092 --> 01:09:40,593
but they are examining the matter.
1359
01:09:41,428 --> 01:09:44,557
-She gave three references
for virtually every fact
1360
01:09:44,682 --> 01:09:45,892
in her book.
1361
01:09:46,017 --> 01:09:47,935
So she really...
1362
01:09:48,060 --> 01:09:50,270
-So she knew the stakes.
-Yeah.
1363
01:09:50,395 --> 01:09:52,063
She knew she was going
to be attacked
1364
01:09:52,773 --> 01:09:55,025
and they went
through her book line by line
1365
01:09:55,150 --> 01:09:58,028
and they issued a report
that validated everything.
1366
01:10:00,990 --> 01:10:02,908
And it exonerated her.
1367
01:10:03,033 --> 01:10:05,618
And Silent Spring became
one of the greatest bestsellers
1368
01:10:05,743 --> 01:10:06,828
in history.
1369
01:10:07,453 --> 01:10:10,457
And then my uncle planned
an Earth Day.
1370
01:10:10,582 --> 01:10:13,127
He was going around the country
to talk about,
1371
01:10:13,710 --> 01:10:16,130
to promote
the first day Earth Day,
1372
01:10:16,255 --> 01:10:18,423
and it was his last
big campaign.
1373
01:10:19,383 --> 01:10:22,887
I'm very proud that my uncle
vindicated Rachel Carson.
1374
01:10:23,387 --> 01:10:25,680
- Because of her book,Silent Spring,
1375
01:10:25,805 --> 01:10:27,182
DDT was banned.
1376
01:10:27,515 --> 01:10:29,768
She didn't live
long enough to see that,
1377
01:10:29,893 --> 01:10:33,313
but it was outlawed
in 1973 in this country.
1378
01:10:37,652 --> 01:10:41,447
Monsanto, they needed something
after DDT got outlawed.
1379
01:10:42,447 --> 01:10:47,243
So they came up with glyphosate,
which is now a known carcinogen,
1380
01:10:48,078 --> 01:10:51,957
and they began using this
in their Roundup herbicide.
1381
01:10:52,750 --> 01:10:53,833
It was jarring to see
1382
01:10:53,958 --> 01:10:56,295
that there was this chemical, glyphosate,
1383
01:10:56,420 --> 01:10:58,047
that was causing cancer
1384
01:10:58,713 --> 01:11:02,300
because it was a pesticide
that was so commonly used.
1385
01:11:02,425 --> 01:11:04,177
It was so pervasive
in our agriculture
1386
01:11:04,303 --> 01:11:06,847
and our food systems
and residential uses.
1387
01:11:06,972 --> 01:11:08,932
And no one's being warned about it.
1388
01:11:09,057 --> 01:11:12,477
-Even though over the years
we saw this propaganda
1389
01:11:12,602 --> 01:11:14,522
where they'd say
"Roundup is safe enough
1390
01:11:14,647 --> 01:11:15,647
to drink, basically."
1391
01:11:15,772 --> 01:11:16,607
There was this commercial
1392
01:11:16,732 --> 01:11:18,358
where this guy’s walkingaround in shorts
1393
01:11:18,483 --> 01:11:20,402
and a t-shirt shooting weeds
on his driveway,
1394
01:11:20,527 --> 01:11:24,238
like fun little
western-style commercial.
1395
01:11:24,365 --> 01:11:26,825
-Home gardeners, and they're
wearing shorts and flip flops
1396
01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:28,077
and they're spraying Roundup.
1397
01:11:28,202 --> 01:11:29,328
They're going to get it
on their skin
1398
01:11:29,453 --> 01:11:31,830
and it's going to be
absorbed by their skin.
1399
01:11:31,955 --> 01:11:36,752
- So then in 2017
there was a groundskeeper,
1400
01:11:36,877 --> 01:11:38,128
Dewayne "Lee" Johnson,
1401
01:11:38,253 --> 01:11:41,507
he had the glyphosate
Roundup Ready on his back.
1402
01:11:41,632 --> 01:11:43,800
I was applying the herbicide
1403
01:11:43,925 --> 01:11:47,137
and the hose snapped
and it started to funnel out.
1404
01:11:47,262 --> 01:11:48,347
And the stuff was going everywhere,
1405
01:11:48,472 --> 01:11:50,390
it got on the outside of my suit,
1406
01:11:50,515 --> 01:11:53,102
it got inside my suit,
it was on my face,
1407
01:11:53,227 --> 01:11:54,143
it was everywhere.
1408
01:11:54,268 --> 01:11:56,397
And that's where I got exposed.
1409
01:11:56,980 --> 01:11:58,565
And he ended up suffering
1410
01:11:58,690 --> 01:12:01,402
and almost dyingfrom non-Hodgkin's lymphoma,
1411
01:12:01,527 --> 01:12:03,862
which is a form of cancerthat's very deadly.
1412
01:12:03,987 --> 01:12:06,115
Glyphosate was responsible,
1413
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:07,700
so he was oneof the first clients
1414
01:12:07,825 --> 01:12:10,410
that this legal teamtook on Monsanto.
1415
01:12:10,535 --> 01:12:13,580
- Our lawsuitswere about proving that
1416
01:12:13,705 --> 01:12:16,958
Monsanto knew
and their failure to warn.
1417
01:12:17,083 --> 01:12:19,210
- Monsanto foryears and years
1418
01:12:19,335 --> 01:12:21,630
and years since Agent Orange,
1419
01:12:21,755 --> 01:12:25,008
they're very involved
in politics and lobbying
1420
01:12:25,133 --> 01:12:27,510
and so they just had an attitude
in the United States
1421
01:12:27,635 --> 01:12:29,262
that they were untouchable.
1422
01:12:29,388 --> 01:12:31,557
- We reallydidn't have the resources
1423
01:12:31,682 --> 01:12:33,933
to take on a companylike Monsanto.
1424
01:12:34,058 --> 01:12:36,437
So we startedcalling people that we knew
1425
01:12:36,562 --> 01:12:38,438
could help us fight this fight.
1426
01:12:38,563 --> 01:12:40,898
Because we knew we were
outgunned and outmanned
1427
01:12:41,023 --> 01:12:42,902
and out moneyed for sure.
1428
01:12:43,027 --> 01:12:44,820
One of first people
we called was Bobby
1429
01:12:46,072 --> 01:12:48,907
because he had gone up
against Monsanto before
1430
01:12:49,032 --> 01:12:50,867
and he had known
a lot of their tactics.
1431
01:12:50,992 --> 01:12:53,953
He'd known
just how nasty they could be
1432
01:12:54,078 --> 01:12:55,497
to individual scientists,
1433
01:12:55,622 --> 01:12:57,082
particularly in water contamination
1434
01:12:57,207 --> 01:12:58,250
and his work
with the Waterkeeper.
1435
01:12:58,375 --> 01:13:00,960
So he joined us
right from the very beginning
1436
01:13:01,087 --> 01:13:04,380
and helped us develop
this strategy and the process
1437
01:13:04,507 --> 01:13:06,967
through which we'd actually
prosecute this case.
1438
01:13:07,092 --> 01:13:09,887
- For 40 years, Monsanto knew
1439
01:13:10,012 --> 01:13:13,557
that Roundup was carcinogenic
and it made great efforts
1440
01:13:13,682 --> 01:13:16,058
to hide that
from the American public.
1441
01:13:16,185 --> 01:13:17,727
The relationship with the EPA,
1442
01:13:17,853 --> 01:13:20,522
particularly as it relates
to Roundup, is a tortured one,
1443
01:13:20,647 --> 01:13:21,565
to say the least.
1444
01:13:21,690 --> 01:13:23,775
- The EPA initiallywe're going to classify
1445
01:13:23,900 --> 01:13:27,278
glyphosate as a class C carcinogen,
1446
01:13:27,403 --> 01:13:31,533
and that's when Monsanto kicked
the lobbying into high gear
1447
01:13:31,658 --> 01:13:34,160
and really fought that classification.
1448
01:13:34,285 --> 01:13:38,165
-And the political will
to oppose Monsanto disappeared.
1449
01:13:38,290 --> 01:13:41,335
-Interactions between Monsanto scientists
1450
01:13:41,460 --> 01:13:43,920
and people actually within the EPA
1451
01:13:44,045 --> 01:13:46,965
is really how glyphosate got approved.
1452
01:13:47,340 --> 01:13:48,508
When I first got involved,
1453
01:13:48,633 --> 01:13:53,305
I believed in the EPA,
just naively as I may have been.
1454
01:13:53,430 --> 01:13:55,598
I thought, oh, well,
they must be mistaken.
1455
01:13:56,267 --> 01:13:58,060
And it was Bobby
who explained to me,
1456
01:13:58,185 --> 01:14:00,228
no, they know what's going on.
1457
01:14:00,353 --> 01:14:02,857
You cannot litigate
this case as though
1458
01:14:02,982 --> 01:14:05,692
the EPA is ignorant or mistaken.
1459
01:14:05,817 --> 01:14:08,987
You have to litigate this case
as though the EPA is in cahoots,
1460
01:14:09,655 --> 01:14:10,738
and he was right.
1461
01:14:11,072 --> 01:14:14,493
- We came acrossdiscovery documents
1462
01:14:14,618 --> 01:14:18,205
that showed thatit was an email exchange
1463
01:14:18,330 --> 01:14:22,960
between the executive officersof Monsanto Corporation
1464
01:14:23,085 --> 01:14:26,755
with the head of the pesticidedivision EPA for over a decade.
1465
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:30,342
So the headof the EPA pesticide division
1466
01:14:31,008 --> 01:14:34,513
was actually under Monsanto's control,
1467
01:14:34,638 --> 01:14:38,683
and they were telling him,you have to kill this study,
1468
01:14:38,808 --> 01:14:41,353
you have to falsify this science.
1469
01:14:41,478 --> 01:14:45,315
- Bobby was really goodat understanding the nuances
1470
01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:49,027
through which corporate America
manipulates science.
1471
01:14:49,152 --> 01:14:51,447
Monsanto denies any link between
1472
01:14:51,572 --> 01:14:54,575
the active ingredient
in Roundup and cancer.
1473
01:14:54,700 --> 01:14:56,577
- In court,Monsanto would just come in
1474
01:14:56,702 --> 01:15:00,663
and take an absolute position,
no evidence at all whatsoever.
1475
01:15:00,788 --> 01:15:04,668
-Monsanto didn't warn because
glyphosate-based products
1476
01:15:04,793 --> 01:15:06,168
don't cause cancer.
1477
01:15:06,962 --> 01:15:09,548
But in one of the emails,
1478
01:15:09,673 --> 01:15:13,177
Donna Farmer, one of the head
scientists from Monsanto said,
1479
01:15:13,302 --> 01:15:15,928
we can't say
it doesn't cause cancer
1480
01:15:16,053 --> 01:15:19,432
because we just haven't done
the studies to prove that.
1481
01:15:20,308 --> 01:15:23,187
Of course, that was a dynamite document.
1482
01:15:24,563 --> 01:15:27,148
- Monsanto choseto tell the world
1483
01:15:27,273 --> 01:15:30,443
that this product is as safe
as table salt.
1484
01:15:30,568 --> 01:15:34,573
If Monsanto had warned
our client, Lee Johnson,
1485
01:15:34,698 --> 01:15:36,408
we wouldn't have had a case.
1486
01:15:36,533 --> 01:15:40,787
-Late today, a California jury
awarded nearly $300 million
1487
01:15:40,912 --> 01:15:43,665
to a former school
groundskeeper who sued Monsanto
1488
01:15:43,790 --> 01:15:46,125
claiming its weed killers,
including Roundup,
1489
01:15:46,252 --> 01:15:48,003
gave him non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.
1490
01:15:48,128 --> 01:15:50,963
- The unanimousjury here in San Francisco
1491
01:15:51,088 --> 01:15:53,717
has told Monsanto - enough,
1492
01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:56,678
you did something wrong
and now you have to pay.
1493
01:15:56,803 --> 01:15:58,347
And Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
1494
01:15:58,472 --> 01:16:00,848
who was in the courtroom
for today's verdict.
1495
01:16:00,973 --> 01:16:03,768
-And I'm so glad that this jury
held them accountable.
1496
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,688
- It's kind of amazingthat this one groundskeeper
1497
01:16:07,813 --> 01:16:09,983
from Northern Californiahas essentially brought
1498
01:16:10,108 --> 01:16:13,403
this venerated institution to its knees.
1499
01:16:13,945 --> 01:16:15,822
- I want to say one last thing,
1500
01:16:15,947 --> 01:16:21,453
which is that this case was
personally gratifying to me.
1501
01:16:21,578 --> 01:16:23,455
My hero, Rachel Carson,
1502
01:16:23,580 --> 01:16:27,583
was under a vicious sustained
assault by Monsanto.
1503
01:16:27,708 --> 01:16:30,170
I watched that happen
as a little boy,
1504
01:16:30,295 --> 01:16:32,880
and I was so happy
that I got to be
1505
01:16:33,007 --> 01:16:35,342
part of this historic trial,
1506
01:16:35,883 --> 01:16:38,178
which once and for all
brought Monsanto
1507
01:16:38,303 --> 01:16:42,015
finally to justice
in front of an American jury.
1508
01:16:43,475 --> 01:16:46,520
- We've heardthe benefits of pesticides,
1509
01:16:47,187 --> 01:16:50,523
but very little about the hazards,
1510
01:16:50,648 --> 01:16:52,317
very little about the failures,
1511
01:16:52,442 --> 01:16:53,902
the inefficiencies.
1512
01:16:54,653 --> 01:16:58,365
And yet the public was being
asked to accept these chemicals,
1513
01:16:58,490 --> 01:17:02,285
was being asked
to acquiesce in their use
1514
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,288
and did not have
the whole picture.
1515
01:17:05,413 --> 01:17:08,375
So I set about to remedy
the balance there.
1516
01:17:16,173 --> 01:17:17,842
- Along came COVID,
1517
01:17:19,177 --> 01:17:21,220
and this is whenBobby began taking on
1518
01:17:21,347 --> 01:17:23,057
the pharmaceutical industry
1519
01:17:23,182 --> 01:17:25,933
and its connections to the CDC,
1520
01:17:26,058 --> 01:17:28,978
the Food and Drug Administrationand big media
1521
01:17:29,730 --> 01:17:31,063
When it comes to COVID,
1522
01:17:31,188 --> 01:17:34,358
what is it that they got wrong
in your opinion?
1523
01:17:34,483 --> 01:17:39,072
-The fact that we mismanaged
COVID is indisputable,
1524
01:17:39,197 --> 01:17:41,783
and the best evidence of that
is that for 50 years
1525
01:17:41,908 --> 01:17:44,660
there's been protocols
for managing global pandemics,
1526
01:17:44,787 --> 01:17:46,328
and they all say--
1527
01:17:46,455 --> 01:17:49,332
the WHO,
the European Medical Agency,
1528
01:17:49,457 --> 01:17:50,917
CDC, et cetera,
1529
01:17:51,502 --> 01:17:53,462
they all say in a pandemic
1530
01:17:53,587 --> 01:17:55,547
what you do is
you isolate the sick,
1531
01:17:55,672 --> 01:17:58,800
you take care of the vulnerable,
1532
01:17:58,925 --> 01:18:01,637
but you don't lock down a population
1533
01:18:01,762 --> 01:18:04,097
for a respiratory virus
1534
01:18:04,222 --> 01:18:06,683
because it's more likely
to spread indoors.
1535
01:18:06,808 --> 01:18:09,643
The lockdowns actually
end up killing more people,
1536
01:18:10,353 --> 01:18:13,607
so they were violating
their own protocols.
1537
01:18:14,107 --> 01:18:15,900
- Bobby was talking early on
1538
01:18:16,025 --> 01:18:19,528
about the fact that this virus
most likely escaped
1539
01:18:19,653 --> 01:18:21,407
from a lab in Wuhan, China,
1540
01:18:21,532 --> 01:18:25,993
which had been funded by Dr. Anthony
Fauci's National Institutes of Health.
1541
01:18:26,118 --> 01:18:29,080
But now we know that that's
pretty much what happened.
1542
01:18:29,998 --> 01:18:31,373
During the pandemic,
1543
01:18:31,500 --> 01:18:35,337
it was very clear
that there was one narrative
1544
01:18:35,462 --> 01:18:37,463
that anyone was allowed to discuss
1545
01:18:37,588 --> 01:18:39,507
and anything counter to that narrative
1546
01:18:39,632 --> 01:18:42,802
we were made to believe was dangerous,
1547
01:18:43,345 --> 01:18:45,263
uninformed.
1548
01:18:45,388 --> 01:18:47,307
- I knew back in May of 2020
1549
01:18:47,432 --> 01:18:51,853
that the COVID vaccine was not
going to prevent transmission.
1550
01:18:51,978 --> 01:18:55,357
I went through the evidence,
I read the monkey studies.
1551
01:18:56,483 --> 01:18:59,485
They were basing the whole study
on a handful of monkeys
1552
01:19:00,237 --> 01:19:03,365
and they were giving
half of them the vaccine
1553
01:19:03,490 --> 01:19:05,033
and half of them a placebo,
1554
01:19:05,950 --> 01:19:07,827
and they were
exposing them to COVID
1555
01:19:07,952 --> 01:19:11,122
and the vaccinated monkeys
had the same amount of COVID
1556
01:19:11,247 --> 01:19:14,167
in their nasal pharynx
as the unvaccinated monkeys.
1557
01:19:14,292 --> 01:19:16,210
And when I said the monkey study
1558
01:19:16,335 --> 01:19:19,255
showed the vaccine
doesn't prevent transmission,
1559
01:19:19,505 --> 01:19:22,133
I was called a conspiracy theorist
1560
01:19:23,050 --> 01:19:24,803
and silenced for it,
1561
01:19:24,928 --> 01:19:26,345
taken off of Instagram.
1562
01:19:27,180 --> 01:19:30,100
- He was removedfrom Facebook, Twitter.
1563
01:19:30,225 --> 01:19:32,768
He was just blackballed, basically.
1564
01:19:33,145 --> 01:19:35,313
- It's scary that the
pharmaceutical companies
1565
01:19:35,438 --> 01:19:40,027
have grown into 70% of
the advertising on television.
1566
01:19:40,152 --> 01:19:43,197
- Seventy-fivepercent of evening news
1567
01:19:43,322 --> 01:19:45,240
from pharmaceutical companies
1568
01:19:45,365 --> 01:19:47,908
and I can't get on
any of the networks,
1569
01:19:48,033 --> 01:19:52,497
so all they hear about me
is the defamations
1570
01:19:52,622 --> 01:19:55,542
and the pejoratives and insults
1571
01:19:55,667 --> 01:19:56,752
and the name calling,
1572
01:19:56,877 --> 01:19:58,127
and you know, he's a racist,
1573
01:19:58,253 --> 01:20:01,590
he's an antisemite,he's got a brain worm,
1574
01:20:01,715 --> 01:20:03,007
he eats dogs.
1575
01:20:04,467 --> 01:20:05,843
He's anti-vaxx.
1576
01:20:05,968 --> 01:20:07,637
I did a quick Google search
1577
01:20:08,305 --> 01:20:11,933
and only saw very negative
articles about Bobby,
1578
01:20:13,142 --> 01:20:15,978
and I realized that
there was something going on
1579
01:20:16,103 --> 01:20:19,523
with the media trying to censor
what he was trying to say.
1580
01:20:19,983 --> 01:20:21,025
What he was pointing out was
1581
01:20:21,150 --> 01:20:25,988
a lot of people died from
side effects of these vaccines,
1582
01:20:26,113 --> 01:20:28,867
or at least their illnesses
were exacerbated
1583
01:20:28,992 --> 01:20:31,493
by taking the vaccine
rather than cured.
1584
01:20:32,162 --> 01:20:35,332
We now know when President Biden
came into office,
1585
01:20:35,457 --> 01:20:37,458
he and Mark Zuckerberg got together
1586
01:20:37,583 --> 01:20:42,130
and Biden requested
that they take Bobby Kennedy off
1587
01:20:42,255 --> 01:20:44,340
their social media.
1588
01:20:44,465 --> 01:20:47,010
-These people from the Biden
administration pushed us
1589
01:20:47,135 --> 01:20:49,262
and said,
1590
01:20:49,387 --> 01:20:54,725
anything that says that vaccines
might have side effects,
1591
01:20:54,850 --> 01:20:56,728
you basically need to take down.
1592
01:20:56,853 --> 01:20:58,313
Our government is telling us
1593
01:20:58,438 --> 01:20:59,772
that we need to censor true things.
1594
01:20:59,898 --> 01:21:02,275
It's like, this is a disaster.
1595
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,780
-It's terrible what they did
to suppress Bobby's free speech.
1596
01:21:08,615 --> 01:21:11,910
His family broke with him,
a lot of people broke with him.
1597
01:21:20,502 --> 01:21:23,045
Hate speech has consequences.
1598
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,467
Distortion of the truth has consequences.
1599
01:21:27,842 --> 01:21:30,803
-You don't have the right
to a platform
1600
01:21:30,928 --> 01:21:34,057
to promote idiotic
bigoted messaging.
1601
01:21:34,390 --> 01:21:38,770
This is not the kind of
free speech that I know of.
1602
01:21:39,020 --> 01:21:40,480
- Mr. Kennedy,
do you think it was easy
1603
01:21:40,605 --> 01:21:43,483
for Jewish people to escape
systematic slaughter of Nazis,
1604
01:21:43,608 --> 01:21:44,817
yes or no?
1605
01:21:44,943 --> 01:21:45,860
- Absolutely not.
1606
01:21:45,985 --> 01:21:47,028
- Okay, good.
1607
01:21:47,153 --> 01:21:50,365
Do you think it was just as hard
to wear a mask during COVID
1608
01:21:50,490 --> 01:21:52,325
as it was to hide under floorboards
1609
01:21:52,450 --> 01:21:54,452
or false walls so you weren't murdered
1610
01:21:54,577 --> 01:21:55,787
or dragged to a concentration camp?
1611
01:21:55,912 --> 01:21:57,622
-Of course not. That's ridiculous.
1612
01:21:57,747 --> 01:21:59,082
-That's a comparison that you made.
1613
01:21:59,207 --> 01:22:00,083
I did not make that comparison.
1614
01:22:00,208 --> 01:22:01,668
Mr. Kennedy,
the measures taken--
1615
01:22:01,793 --> 01:22:03,168
The time is mine.
I'm reclaiming it.
1616
01:22:03,295 --> 01:22:04,628
Please ask the witness
to stop talking.
1617
01:22:04,753 --> 01:22:06,255
You asked me a question.
1618
01:22:07,507 --> 01:22:09,217
-Protective measures were taken
1619
01:22:10,218 --> 01:22:15,015
to take down disinformation
about vaccines,
1620
01:22:15,140 --> 01:22:17,767
and no matter what you may
think, Mr. Kennedy
1621
01:22:17,892 --> 01:22:19,268
and I revere your name,
1622
01:22:19,893 --> 01:22:23,732
you're not here to propound
your case for censorship.
1623
01:22:23,857 --> 01:22:24,815
No.
1624
01:22:25,275 --> 01:22:27,902
It's an opportunity
to have a conspiracy theory
1625
01:22:28,528 --> 01:22:31,280
and it makes me profoundly sad.
1626
01:22:31,948 --> 01:22:35,452
I began my political interest
with your father
1627
01:22:36,368 --> 01:22:40,707
and it brings shame
on a storied name that I revere.
1628
01:22:41,290 --> 01:22:42,167
- I just want to respond--
- Mr. Chair.
1629
01:22:42,292 --> 01:22:43,335
Mr. Chair.
1630
01:22:43,460 --> 01:22:44,585
- May I, Mr. Chairman?
1631
01:22:44,710 --> 01:22:45,712
- You may not,you may not.
1632
01:22:45,837 --> 01:22:46,922
- I don't think--
- Time's out.
1633
01:22:47,047 --> 01:22:48,507
We're done.
1634
01:22:48,632 --> 01:22:51,633
- I want to say this
while I'm on the record,
1635
01:22:52,468 --> 01:22:54,387
while I'm under oath.
1636
01:22:56,013 --> 01:22:59,142
I've never been anti-vaccine,
but everybody in this room
1637
01:22:59,267 --> 01:23:01,060
probably believes that I have been
1638
01:23:01,185 --> 01:23:02,728
because that's the prevailing narrative.
1639
01:23:03,730 --> 01:23:08,860
I believe vaccines should be
tested with the same rigor
1640
01:23:08,985 --> 01:23:11,028
as other medicines and medications,
1641
01:23:11,822 --> 01:23:16,575
and my views are
constantly misrepresented.
1642
01:23:16,702 --> 01:23:18,662
I spent 30 years trying
to get mercury
1643
01:23:18,787 --> 01:23:20,038
out of the fish in this country,
1644
01:23:20,163 --> 01:23:22,457
and nobody ever called me anti-fish.
1645
01:23:23,165 --> 01:23:25,793
At that time we were trying
to get mercury out of vaccines.
1646
01:23:25,918 --> 01:23:27,462
Mothers were coming and saying,
1647
01:23:27,587 --> 01:23:30,715
my child was injured by the vaccine,
1648
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:32,842
and they said, nobody's listening to us.
1649
01:23:32,967 --> 01:23:35,137
And I felt like
I should listen to them
1650
01:23:35,262 --> 01:23:36,763
and actually read the science.
1651
01:23:36,888 --> 01:23:38,765
And that is what got me down into the--
1652
01:23:38,890 --> 01:23:39,807
- Time.
1653
01:23:39,932 --> 01:23:42,352
-And by the way,
it's the worst career decision
1654
01:23:42,477 --> 01:23:43,603
I have ever made.
1655
01:23:44,353 --> 01:23:46,857
We have to stop trying
to destroy each other,
1656
01:23:46,982 --> 01:23:48,650
to marginalize, to vilify,
1657
01:23:48,775 --> 01:23:50,610
to gaslight each other.
1658
01:23:50,735 --> 01:23:54,655
We have to find that place
inside of ourselves of light,
1659
01:23:54,780 --> 01:23:57,075
of empathy, of compassion,
1660
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,660
and above all, we need to elevate
1661
01:23:59,785 --> 01:24:01,662
the constitution
of the United States,
1662
01:24:01,788 --> 01:24:03,957
which was written
for hard times,
1663
01:24:04,332 --> 01:24:07,877
and that has to be
the premier compass
1664
01:24:08,420 --> 01:24:10,255
for all of our activities.
1665
01:24:10,380 --> 01:24:11,588
Thank you very much.
1666
01:24:11,713 --> 01:24:12,798
- Thank you.
- Mr. Chairman.
1667
01:24:14,467 --> 01:24:15,427
- We stand in recess.
1668
01:24:15,552 --> 01:24:16,510
We stand in recess.
1669
01:24:16,635 --> 01:24:17,970
We'll be back in
and right back at it.
1670
01:24:18,095 --> 01:24:19,055
Thank you all.
1671
01:24:40,493 --> 01:24:42,162
Do they know
about Martin Luther King?
1672
01:24:44,247 --> 01:24:45,457
Ladies and gentlemen,
1673
01:24:48,710 --> 01:24:49,835
I'm only going
to talk to you
1674
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,297
just for a minute
or so this evening
1675
01:24:52,422 --> 01:24:57,510
because I have some
very sad news for all of you
1676
01:24:57,635 --> 01:25:02,140
and I think sad news
for all of our fellow citizens
1677
01:25:02,682 --> 01:25:05,893
and people who love peace
all over the world,
1678
01:25:06,435 --> 01:25:09,813
and that is that
Martin Luther King was shot
1679
01:25:09,938 --> 01:25:12,525
and was killed tonight
in Memphis, Tennessee.
1680
01:25:20,242 --> 01:25:24,328
For those of you who are tempted
to be filled with hatred
1681
01:25:24,453 --> 01:25:28,583
and mistrust of the injustice
of such an act,
1682
01:25:29,125 --> 01:25:33,212
I would only say that
I can also feel in my own heart
1683
01:25:33,755 --> 01:25:35,257
the same kind of feeling.
1684
01:25:36,173 --> 01:25:38,760
I had a member
of my family killed.
1685
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,595
But we have to make an effort
to get beyond
1686
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,140
or go beyond these rather
difficult times.
1687
01:25:45,892 --> 01:25:47,518
What we need
in the United States
1688
01:25:47,643 --> 01:25:49,103
is not division,
1689
01:25:50,188 --> 01:25:52,732
what we need
in the United States is not hatred.
1690
01:25:53,232 --> 01:25:54,650
What we need
in the United States
1691
01:25:54,775 --> 01:25:57,362
is not violence and lawlessness,
1692
01:25:58,403 --> 01:26:00,907
but is love and wisdom
1693
01:26:01,032 --> 01:26:03,117
and compassion
toward one another.
1694
01:26:04,243 --> 01:26:07,122
A feeling of justice toward those
1695
01:26:07,247 --> 01:26:10,292
who still suffer
within our country,
1696
01:26:10,417 --> 01:26:13,878
whether they be white
or whether they be black.
1697
01:26:15,463 --> 01:26:17,423
Let us say a prayer
for our country
1698
01:26:17,548 --> 01:26:18,883
and for our people.
1699
01:26:19,008 --> 01:26:20,008
Thank you very much.
1700
01:26:23,262 --> 01:26:26,765
- I think thatBobby Kennedy himself knew
1701
01:26:26,892 --> 01:26:30,520
in early 1968 when he fatefully decides
1702
01:26:30,645 --> 01:26:32,605
that he must run for president,
1703
01:26:32,730 --> 01:26:37,318
that he was doing so under a great cloud,
1704
01:26:37,443 --> 01:26:41,655
that he was doing so
at risk to his own life.
1705
01:26:41,780 --> 01:26:45,452
And imagine the courage
that it took for Bobby Kennedy
1706
01:26:45,577 --> 01:26:50,122
to plunge into the crowds
during the 1968 campaign,
1707
01:26:50,248 --> 01:26:53,042
again and again
putting himself in danger.
1708
01:26:53,668 --> 01:26:54,627
And why does he do this?
1709
01:26:54,752 --> 01:26:56,753
Because he thinks the country
1710
01:26:56,878 --> 01:26:59,173
is so mortally wounded
at this point,
1711
01:26:59,298 --> 01:27:03,093
is in such a suffering
place after years of war,
1712
01:27:03,218 --> 01:27:06,513
and rioting in its inner cities,
of racial strife,
1713
01:27:06,847 --> 01:27:10,435
that he alone knows that
he's probably the only candidate
1714
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:12,228
who can heal the country,
1715
01:27:12,353 --> 01:27:14,688
so he takes this burden
on his shoulders.
1716
01:27:15,273 --> 01:27:17,192
- When Robert Kennedycame into the race,
1717
01:27:17,317 --> 01:27:18,610
people didn't really
give him a chance
1718
01:27:18,735 --> 01:27:22,155
and there was a lot of
resentment and opposition,
1719
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,615
but he began to win the primaries.
1720
01:27:24,740 --> 01:27:26,783
For example,
he went to South Dakota
1721
01:27:26,908 --> 01:27:30,872
and there he spent time
with the Lakota Sioux
1722
01:27:30,997 --> 01:27:32,623
on the Pine Ridge reservation.
1723
01:27:33,625 --> 01:27:35,502
- My father took us
to Indian reservations
1724
01:27:35,627 --> 01:27:36,918
everywhere we went.
1725
01:27:37,045 --> 01:27:39,672
-Because he wanted you
to see the poverty
1726
01:27:39,797 --> 01:27:41,882
or he wanted to see
a different way of life?
1727
01:27:42,008 --> 01:27:44,052
-He was just interested in Indians
1728
01:27:44,177 --> 01:27:47,972
and he felt, he really believed
America was an exemplary nation,
1729
01:27:48,097 --> 01:27:50,308
that we were
the world's exemplary democracy.
1730
01:27:50,892 --> 01:27:55,145
But that we'd never live up
to the promise of our nation
1731
01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:58,858
if we didn't go back and redress
the original sin of America,
1732
01:27:58,983 --> 01:28:02,903
which was the genocide
of the Native Americans.
1733
01:28:03,028 --> 01:28:08,660
So he was concerned about
the way that they lived
1734
01:28:08,785 --> 01:28:10,578
and the poverty.
1735
01:28:11,620 --> 01:28:13,622
- That these
conditions can be allowed
1736
01:28:13,748 --> 01:28:16,708
to prevail among a people
uniquely entitled
1737
01:28:16,833 --> 01:28:19,545
to call themselves
the First Americans.
1738
01:28:19,670 --> 01:28:23,465
A people whose civilization
flourished here for centuries,
1739
01:28:23,590 --> 01:28:25,968
before the name America
was thought of,
1740
01:28:26,093 --> 01:28:29,555
this is nothing
less than a national disgrace,
1741
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,600
-And he's bestowed upon him
1742
01:28:33,225 --> 01:28:37,272
an honored chief
of the American Indians.
1743
01:28:44,028 --> 01:28:47,240
- When he was on that
Sioux reservation in 1968,
1744
01:28:47,365 --> 01:28:51,743
there was 20,000 white people
waiting for him in Rapid City,
1745
01:28:51,868 --> 01:28:53,578
and they waited
for about eight hours
1746
01:28:53,705 --> 01:28:56,415
and his aides kept saying,
you got to go there.
1747
01:28:56,540 --> 01:28:57,875
The Indians don't vote anyway.
1748
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,043
And my father was saying,
I'm staying here.
1749
01:29:00,962 --> 01:29:03,715
And he spent the day
at the reservation
1750
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,425
and didn't get to Rapid City
until the evening,
1751
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,095
and he won the state
of South Dakota
1752
01:29:09,762 --> 01:29:12,057
and he largely won
because it was the first time
1753
01:29:12,182 --> 01:29:13,515
there was a massive Indian vote
1754
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,060
and he got almost
a 100% of the vote.
1755
01:29:16,685 --> 01:29:18,855
So he won the most rural state
in the country,
1756
01:29:18,980 --> 01:29:21,065
which was South Dakota
and the most urban state.
1757
01:29:21,190 --> 01:29:24,235
So he had succeeded
in bridging the divide.
1758
01:29:26,987 --> 01:29:29,782
- Bobby Kennedyhad a brief and shining moment
1759
01:29:29,907 --> 01:29:31,033
where if he had won,
1760
01:29:31,158 --> 01:29:32,535
if he'd been elected,
1761
01:29:32,660 --> 01:29:34,995
he could have brought
the country together.
1762
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,207
During the campaign
he would tell people,
1763
01:29:37,332 --> 01:29:39,750
yes, I don't believe
the Warren Report.
1764
01:29:39,875 --> 01:29:42,712
Yes, I'm going to reopen
the assassination case.
1765
01:29:42,837 --> 01:29:45,465
- Would you welcomea reopening of the investigation
1766
01:29:45,590 --> 01:29:47,425
into President Kennedy's death?
1767
01:29:47,550 --> 01:29:48,968
-Well, I don't see that
1768
01:29:49,093 --> 01:29:52,305
if there isn't
any new evidence to consider,
1769
01:29:52,430 --> 01:29:54,015
you'd ever get away
from the idea
1770
01:29:54,140 --> 01:29:55,475
that maybe there was a plot.
1771
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,143
We just didn't find
any traces of it.
1772
01:29:58,937 --> 01:30:01,938
- All the forceshe felt had killed JFK
1773
01:30:02,063 --> 01:30:05,275
could not allow Bobby Kennedy
to become president
1774
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:08,028
because he was going to be
coming after them then,
1775
01:30:08,570 --> 01:30:10,573
with the full power
of the federal government.
1776
01:30:12,992 --> 01:30:14,910
- This meant thatKennedy had to go.
1777
01:30:17,163 --> 01:30:18,790
- Senator Kennedyis going down now
1778
01:30:18,915 --> 01:30:22,960
to address his supporters asMcCarthy did a short while ago.
1779
01:30:23,085 --> 01:30:25,630
Rafer Johnson,the Olympic decathlon winner,
1780
01:30:25,755 --> 01:30:27,257
is on one side of him there.
1781
01:30:27,382 --> 01:30:29,550
He's been acting as a bodyguard.
1782
01:30:30,342 --> 01:30:33,178
Now he's advancingtowards the ballroom
1783
01:30:33,303 --> 01:30:36,348
where he will talkto his campaign workers
1784
01:30:36,473 --> 01:30:37,642
from California.
1785
01:30:41,062 --> 01:30:43,063
- Here he is now,he's entering the ballroom
1786
01:30:43,188 --> 01:30:45,650
and you can hear the cheersfrom his supporters.
1787
01:30:49,820 --> 01:30:51,280
- So Bobby Kennedy,
1788
01:30:51,405 --> 01:30:54,242
I'm sad to say,his days are numbered
1789
01:30:54,367 --> 01:30:56,285
from the moment he announcesfor president.
1790
01:30:56,410 --> 01:30:58,955
In fact, Jackie Kennedy
told him this.
1791
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:03,417
Jackie Kennedy told him
she was crushed by his decision
1792
01:31:03,542 --> 01:31:06,045
and she said, "Bobby,
the same people who killed Jack
1793
01:31:06,170 --> 01:31:07,172
are going to kill the you."
1794
01:31:27,692 --> 01:31:29,443
Kennedy has been shot.
1795
01:31:29,568 --> 01:31:30,862
They think Kennedyhas been shot,
1796
01:31:31,570 --> 01:31:32,863
appeared to be gunshots
1797
01:31:33,907 --> 01:31:36,408
in a little room off to the side.
1798
01:31:36,533 --> 01:31:38,035
I was near the Senator.
1799
01:31:38,660 --> 01:31:39,537
What appeared--
1800
01:31:39,662 --> 01:31:41,205
what appeared to be gunshots
1801
01:31:41,330 --> 01:31:44,208
coming from insidethis room in here.
1802
01:31:44,333 --> 01:31:46,335
I'm not...Keep me plugged in.
1803
01:31:47,337 --> 01:31:48,880
There's a great deal of blood.
1804
01:31:49,005 --> 01:31:50,505
Keep me plugged in.
1805
01:31:53,675 --> 01:31:54,718
We don't know what--
1806
01:31:54,843 --> 01:31:57,053
- Move back, please!
1807
01:31:57,178 --> 01:31:59,307
- Oh,someone else was shot.
1808
01:31:59,432 --> 01:32:00,600
Someone else was shot.
1809
01:32:00,725 --> 01:32:02,227
We had another personwho was next to Kennedy
1810
01:32:02,352 --> 01:32:03,895
who was shot in the forehead.
1811
01:32:04,020 --> 01:32:05,353
She's bleeding badly.
1812
01:32:06,397 --> 01:32:08,607
Another person is shot near Kennedy.
1813
01:32:08,732 --> 01:32:09,650
It's mass chaos here.
1814
01:32:09,775 --> 01:32:11,193
We did hear gunfirefrom in the hallway,
1815
01:32:11,318 --> 01:32:12,445
there are peoplerunning everywhere.
1816
01:32:12,570 --> 01:32:14,488
- The individualwe have in custody
1817
01:32:14,613 --> 01:32:16,490
is Sirhan Sirhan.
1818
01:32:21,203 --> 01:32:22,288
I don't know how many times
1819
01:32:22,413 --> 01:32:23,580
the Senator was shot.
1820
01:32:23,705 --> 01:32:25,792
His blood is still hereon the floor.
1821
01:32:29,045 --> 01:32:30,880
Senator Robert Francis Kennedy
1822
01:32:32,340 --> 01:32:37,345
died at 1:44 AM, today
1823
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:42,433
June 6th, 1968.
1824
01:32:49,607 --> 01:32:51,483
Now, I want to ask you
1825
01:32:51,608 --> 01:32:53,987
about your father's assassination.
1826
01:32:54,945 --> 01:32:57,072
And what do you make of it?
1827
01:32:58,907 --> 01:33:01,785
- I always assumed
that my dad's murder
1828
01:33:01,910 --> 01:33:03,870
was pretty straightforward
1829
01:33:04,830 --> 01:33:07,248
because Sirhan confessed
to the murder.
1830
01:33:07,792 --> 01:33:09,960
There were 77 eyewitnesses
1831
01:33:10,085 --> 01:33:12,422
and many people,
at least a dozen,
1832
01:33:12,547 --> 01:33:16,008
testified that they'd seen him
firing the shots at my dad.
1833
01:33:17,008 --> 01:33:19,470
Paul Schrade, who was a very
close friend of my father,
1834
01:33:19,595 --> 01:33:24,017
a very, very compassionate,
determined labor organizer.
1835
01:33:24,142 --> 01:33:26,393
He was standing
beside my father,
1836
01:33:26,518 --> 01:33:27,687
maybe a foot behind him
1837
01:33:27,812 --> 01:33:31,148
as they walked into
the Ambassador Hotel kitchen.
1838
01:33:31,273 --> 01:33:34,568
And the first of the shots at my father
1839
01:33:34,693 --> 01:33:38,947
had hit Paul Schrade
and he had fallen down.
1840
01:33:39,073 --> 01:33:41,283
He survived.
1841
01:33:41,408 --> 01:33:42,493
It's a great personal tragedy
1842
01:33:42,618 --> 01:33:45,495
because Bob Kennedy was
a very close friend of mine
1843
01:33:45,620 --> 01:33:49,500
and I, not only as a friend,
1844
01:33:49,625 --> 01:33:52,210
but expected him
to be a great president.
1845
01:33:52,337 --> 01:33:55,213
And then probably 15 years ago,
1846
01:33:55,338 --> 01:33:58,008
Paul Schade,
he called me and he said,
1847
01:33:58,133 --> 01:33:59,427
"I want you to come
to my house
1848
01:33:59,552 --> 01:34:01,470
and read your dad's autopsy report."
1849
01:34:01,595 --> 01:34:03,638
And I said, "That's the last
thing in the world
1850
01:34:03,763 --> 01:34:05,140
that I want to do."
1851
01:34:06,308 --> 01:34:09,687
And he said, "I'm asking you
and I need you to do this."
1852
01:34:09,812 --> 01:34:13,648
And because of the role that
he played in my father's life
1853
01:34:13,773 --> 01:34:16,360
and because he had taken
a bullet for my father,
1854
01:34:17,110 --> 01:34:19,197
I felt like
I couldn't say no to him.
1855
01:34:19,322 --> 01:34:23,825
So I went to his home
and I sat at his kitchen table
1856
01:34:23,950 --> 01:34:25,618
and I read that autopsy report
1857
01:34:25,745 --> 01:34:28,038
and it was transformative for me
1858
01:34:28,163 --> 01:34:30,875
because anybody
who reads that report
1859
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,087
will understand that Sirhan
could not have killed my father.
1860
01:34:36,297 --> 01:34:39,383
- Final totalswill be Kennedy 48%,
1861
01:34:39,508 --> 01:34:42,093
Senator McCarthy 41%.
1862
01:34:42,218 --> 01:34:43,928
- The mainstreamnarrative of June 4th
1863
01:34:44,055 --> 01:34:47,265
is that Kennedy wins the primary.
1864
01:34:47,808 --> 01:34:50,393
He goes downto the embassy ballroom
1865
01:34:50,518 --> 01:34:52,730
and gives his acceptance speech.
1866
01:34:52,855 --> 01:34:54,022
My thanks to all of you.
1867
01:34:54,148 --> 01:34:56,275
And now it's on to Chicago
and let's win there.
1868
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:57,402
Thank you very much.
1869
01:34:57,527 --> 01:34:58,443
- At that point,
1870
01:34:58,568 --> 01:35:00,738
he walks offthe back of the stage
1871
01:35:00,863 --> 01:35:03,490
and walks through the pantry.
1872
01:35:03,615 --> 01:35:05,242
The cameras are all off
at this point
1873
01:35:05,367 --> 01:35:06,952
because the event is over.
1874
01:35:08,037 --> 01:35:09,955
There are busboys in the pantry.
1875
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,333
There are some campaign
hangers on, there's staff.
1876
01:35:13,458 --> 01:35:16,378
And Sirhan steps out,
pulls out a gun,
1877
01:35:16,503 --> 01:35:18,088
starts firing at Kennedy.
1878
01:35:18,213 --> 01:35:20,257
-And Syrian fired
two shots of my dad.
1879
01:35:20,382 --> 01:35:22,718
And then he was grabbed
by Rafer Johnson,
1880
01:35:22,843 --> 01:35:24,762
Rosie Greer,
and four other guys.
1881
01:35:24,887 --> 01:35:26,597
So six people altogether.
1882
01:35:26,722 --> 01:35:28,890
And I talked
to Rafer about this.
1883
01:35:29,015 --> 01:35:32,728
Rafer was a gold medal
decathlon champion in 1960.
1884
01:35:32,853 --> 01:35:34,855
Very close friend of my father.
1885
01:35:34,980 --> 01:35:38,733
Rafer told me they bent Sirhan
over the steam table.
1886
01:35:38,858 --> 01:35:39,693
- I'm right here.
1887
01:35:39,818 --> 01:35:41,403
Rafer Johnson
has a hold of a man
1888
01:35:42,112 --> 01:35:45,323
who apparently
has fired the shots.
1889
01:35:45,448 --> 01:35:47,200
He has fired the shots.
He still has the gun.
1890
01:35:47,325 --> 01:35:49,245
The gun is pointed
at me right at this moment.
1891
01:35:49,912 --> 01:35:51,705
That's it, Rafer, get it!
1892
01:35:51,830 --> 01:35:53,082
Get the gun Rafer!
1893
01:35:53,790 --> 01:35:55,625
Okay, now hold onto the guy!
1894
01:35:55,750 --> 01:35:56,627
Hold onto him!
1895
01:35:56,752 --> 01:35:59,380
Take a hold of his thumb
and break it if you have to!
1896
01:35:59,505 --> 01:36:00,713
Get his thumb!
1897
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:02,592
Rafer took the gun hand
1898
01:36:02,717 --> 01:36:04,760
and pointed the gun
away from my father.
1899
01:36:04,885 --> 01:36:10,515
And Sirhan then was able
to fire off six other shots
1900
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:12,852
in the opposite direction
from my father
1901
01:36:12,977 --> 01:36:14,395
and emptied the magazine.
1902
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,772
- Hold him Rafer!
We don't want another Oswald!
1903
01:36:17,482 --> 01:36:19,858
Hold him, Rafer,
keep people away from him!
1904
01:36:19,983 --> 01:36:20,943
- And the witnesses again,
1905
01:36:21,068 --> 01:36:22,027
who saw them both
1906
01:36:22,152 --> 01:36:24,947
and were in a good position
to judge distance,
1907
01:36:25,072 --> 01:36:29,202
put the gun muzzle about
three feet in front of Kennedy.
1908
01:36:29,743 --> 01:36:32,328
Then we cut to the autopsy report
1909
01:36:32,453 --> 01:36:34,415
and the coroner, Thomas Noguchi,
1910
01:36:34,540 --> 01:36:36,583
a very competent coroner
1911
01:36:36,708 --> 01:36:39,753
who'd done many famous cases
including Marilyn Monroe
1912
01:36:39,878 --> 01:36:43,090
and Natalie Wood
and other celebrities.
1913
01:36:43,215 --> 01:36:46,093
He was given the body of RFK
1914
01:36:46,218 --> 01:36:48,012
and it was clear to him immediately
1915
01:36:48,137 --> 01:36:50,848
as it was to the police
because they saw the body.
1916
01:36:50,973 --> 01:36:53,975
Kennedy had been shot
from behind the right ear.
1917
01:36:54,100 --> 01:36:55,853
He had not been shot
from the front.
1918
01:36:57,103 --> 01:36:58,105
The shots that hit my father--
1919
01:36:58,230 --> 01:36:59,648
there were four,
1920
01:37:00,065 --> 01:37:02,192
all of them were from behind.
1921
01:37:03,277 --> 01:37:04,945
One of them went harmlessly
1922
01:37:05,070 --> 01:37:07,657
through the shoulder pad
of his jacket.
1923
01:37:08,323 --> 01:37:09,992
Two of 'em went into his back
1924
01:37:10,325 --> 01:37:12,452
and one of 'em went into
the back of his head,
1925
01:37:13,412 --> 01:37:15,330
which was the shot
that killed him.
1926
01:37:15,455 --> 01:37:18,042
And Noguchi says that
all of those shots
1927
01:37:18,167 --> 01:37:19,585
were contact shots,
1928
01:37:19,710 --> 01:37:22,337
meaning they left
a carbon tattoo
1929
01:37:22,462 --> 01:37:24,088
on my father's skin,
1930
01:37:25,048 --> 01:37:26,883
which means that the barrel
1931
01:37:27,008 --> 01:37:29,720
could not have been more than
a half an inch from his body.
1932
01:37:29,845 --> 01:37:32,640
The muzzle distance would be
1933
01:37:34,225 --> 01:37:38,687
one inch from the right ear
1934
01:37:38,812 --> 01:37:42,190
and no more than three inches.
1935
01:37:42,315 --> 01:37:43,983
- And the Sirhan
was never behind him
1936
01:37:44,108 --> 01:37:46,445
and never got that close to him.
1937
01:37:46,570 --> 01:37:49,113
- So how do you reconcile
three feet from in front
1938
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,700
with an inch and a half from behind?
1939
01:37:51,825 --> 01:37:53,452
And you don't.
1940
01:37:53,577 --> 01:37:56,580
-My father appears to have known
1941
01:37:56,705 --> 01:37:58,373
that he was being shot from behind
1942
01:37:58,498 --> 01:38:02,085
because the last thing he did
was twist around
1943
01:38:02,210 --> 01:38:07,132
and tear off the tie of
the security guard behind him.
1944
01:38:07,465 --> 01:38:09,217
The early pictures of my father
1945
01:38:09,343 --> 01:38:10,802
show my father lying
on the ground
1946
01:38:10,928 --> 01:38:12,178
with the clip on tie.
1947
01:38:13,222 --> 01:38:15,265
From day one from moment one,
1948
01:38:15,390 --> 01:38:20,020
Sirhan claimed he did not knowwhat happened in the pantry.
1949
01:38:20,145 --> 01:38:22,940
The police asked him questions
like, is this your car?
1950
01:38:23,065 --> 01:38:24,692
He's like, I don't know.
1951
01:38:24,817 --> 01:38:25,943
They said, what's your name?
1952
01:38:26,068 --> 01:38:27,987
He was completely silent.
1953
01:38:28,778 --> 01:38:32,992
And so as one of the DA's
assistants is talking to him,
1954
01:38:33,117 --> 01:38:34,952
he stops himself midsentence, he's like,
1955
01:38:35,077 --> 01:38:36,203
do you know where you are?
1956
01:38:36,328 --> 01:38:38,413
Do you know what
you've been charged with?
1957
01:38:38,538 --> 01:38:40,958
He knew Sirhan wasn't processing
1958
01:38:41,083 --> 01:38:43,085
like a normal person
would process.
1959
01:38:43,210 --> 01:38:44,168
Do you remember anything?
1960
01:38:44,295 --> 01:38:45,128
-No, no, no.
1961
01:38:45,253 --> 01:38:47,632
I don't remember much
what happened after that.
1962
01:38:47,757 --> 01:38:48,632
- You don't
remember much about that.
1963
01:38:48,757 --> 01:38:49,842
I don't remember.
1964
01:38:50,675 --> 01:38:52,552
- And there are12 points of entry
1965
01:38:52,678 --> 01:38:55,722
for the eight bulletsSirhan's gun could have held.
1966
01:38:56,473 --> 01:38:58,683
Two bulletswere removed from Kennedy.
1967
01:38:59,435 --> 01:39:02,103
Five other peoplehad bullets removed from them.
1968
01:39:02,980 --> 01:39:06,358
- Five people,including Paul Schrade.
1969
01:39:06,858 --> 01:39:09,862
- But there are still
at least five more bullet holes
1970
01:39:09,987 --> 01:39:14,408
pictured from FBI photos
and an AP photo.
1971
01:39:15,700 --> 01:39:18,203
- And in the chaosof what happened there,
1972
01:39:18,328 --> 01:39:20,998
people didn't initially question
the fact that there was
1973
01:39:21,123 --> 01:39:22,833
a recently-employed security guard
1974
01:39:22,958 --> 01:39:24,960
standing behind Robert Kennedy.
1975
01:39:25,335 --> 01:39:29,005
- Thane Eugene Cesar
had joined a security company
1976
01:39:29,130 --> 01:39:31,758
only a week earlier
who were running security
1977
01:39:31,883 --> 01:39:34,470
for the event
that night at the hotel.
1978
01:39:34,595 --> 01:39:39,433
And Thane Cesar also was
moonlighting for Lockheed,
1979
01:39:39,558 --> 01:39:42,895
who was also working as
a bodyguard for Howard Hughes.
1980
01:39:43,020 --> 01:39:46,648
And I went through some
public records databases.
1981
01:39:46,773 --> 01:39:50,777
The only employer Cesar
ever listed was the CIA.
1982
01:39:50,902 --> 01:39:54,072
So you've got this CIA guy
at Kennedy's elbow.
1983
01:39:54,197 --> 01:39:55,198
He's six foot two.
1984
01:39:55,323 --> 01:39:56,783
He's stocky.
1985
01:39:56,908 --> 01:40:01,163
And he's literally holding
Kennedy's right arm
1986
01:40:01,288 --> 01:40:04,123
with his left hand
if he's right-handed,
1987
01:40:04,248 --> 01:40:07,293
and he is, no one is in a better
position to shoot Kennedy
1988
01:40:07,418 --> 01:40:09,380
under the arm than Thane Cesar.
1989
01:40:09,505 --> 01:40:11,090
He's right there.
1990
01:40:11,215 --> 01:40:14,718
- Cesar steeredto my father into the kitchen,
1991
01:40:14,843 --> 01:40:16,137
and when he was shot,
1992
01:40:16,262 --> 01:40:21,558
my father fell on top of Cesar
and Cesar fell as well,
1993
01:40:21,683 --> 01:40:24,352
and then pushed my father
off him and stood up.
1994
01:40:24,478 --> 01:40:25,687
And he had his gun drawn,
1995
01:40:25,812 --> 01:40:29,400
which was visible
to numerous witnesses.
1996
01:40:30,358 --> 01:40:34,237
And Cesar later suggested
1997
01:40:34,362 --> 01:40:36,865
that maybe he had pulled his gun
1998
01:40:36,990 --> 01:40:39,827
to shoot at Sirhan,
1999
01:40:41,078 --> 01:40:43,955
but the gun was never taken
by the police.
2000
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:45,623
- At the time,
Bobby had planned
2001
01:40:45,748 --> 01:40:47,752
to go to the Philippines
2002
01:40:47,877 --> 01:40:50,045
to speak with than Eugene Cesar,
2003
01:40:50,170 --> 01:40:53,215
who quite possibly fired the shots
2004
01:40:53,340 --> 01:40:56,260
that assassinated the senator.
2005
01:40:56,385 --> 01:40:59,012
And Cesar said, "Yeah, I could do that,
2006
01:40:59,137 --> 01:41:01,055
but you're going to have to pay me--"
2007
01:41:01,182 --> 01:41:02,682
I don't know, I think it was $30,000,
2008
01:41:02,808 --> 01:41:03,808
something like that.
2009
01:41:04,602 --> 01:41:05,810
It didn't happen.
2010
01:41:05,935 --> 01:41:08,105
Cesar backed out
at the last minute
2011
01:41:08,230 --> 01:41:09,940
and he has since died.
2012
01:41:11,150 --> 01:41:12,275
-It's a dirty story.
2013
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:14,318
But you went to see Sirhan.
2014
01:41:14,445 --> 01:41:16,863
- Yeah,
it's occurred to me,
2015
01:41:16,988 --> 01:41:19,407
although I don't have evidence,
2016
01:41:19,533 --> 01:41:25,330
definitive evidence for this,
that Sirhan was a distractor.
2017
01:41:25,455 --> 01:41:28,958
He believes that
he was hypnotized.
2018
01:41:29,710 --> 01:41:32,503
-I don't remember aiming
at any human being.
2019
01:41:32,628 --> 01:41:34,590
I don't remember any of that.
2020
01:41:35,715 --> 01:41:38,010
I've said that from the get-go.
2021
01:41:38,843 --> 01:41:42,263
The doctor said that I was
in a dissociated state.
2022
01:41:42,807 --> 01:41:45,892
- During the course
of my own investigation,
2023
01:41:46,017 --> 01:41:51,565
I got a hold of the CIA
training manual for MK Ultra.
2024
01:41:52,148 --> 01:41:54,275
It was about developing
a Manchurian candidate
2025
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:57,778
and using hypnosis
and psychoactive drugs.
2026
01:41:59,155 --> 01:42:02,325
And one of the interesting
things it says in there is
2027
01:42:02,450 --> 01:42:05,287
it says it's very difficult
2028
01:42:05,412 --> 01:42:09,625
to reliably train somebody
2029
01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:11,877
to be an unwilling assassin
2030
01:42:12,837 --> 01:42:15,297
and that it may
take years of training,
2031
01:42:15,422 --> 01:42:19,050
but that you can train a distractor
2032
01:42:19,843 --> 01:42:22,095
within a couple of months.
2033
01:42:23,347 --> 01:42:25,515
And a distractor
would be the person
2034
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:28,102
who would be visibly
firing the shots
2035
01:42:28,227 --> 01:42:32,272
while the real killer was
actually firing the kill shots.
2036
01:42:32,397 --> 01:42:35,317
-If that isn't the template
for what happened in the pantry,
2037
01:42:35,442 --> 01:42:36,777
I don't know what is.
2038
01:42:36,902 --> 01:42:40,197
So again, they didn't have time
to train Sirhan
2039
01:42:40,322 --> 01:42:44,075
to be a skilled assassin
in that short of time,
2040
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,828
but they did have time
to train him to be a patsy.
2041
01:42:47,162 --> 01:42:48,663
- I don't remember.
2042
01:42:48,788 --> 01:42:53,793
I'm not saying that to be
dismissive of my responsibility,
2043
01:42:53,918 --> 01:42:55,795
but that is really what happened.
2044
01:42:56,170 --> 01:42:58,298
- When you're inthe hypnotic state,
2045
01:42:58,423 --> 01:43:00,633
sometimes the memoryis not being recorded
2046
01:43:00,758 --> 01:43:02,385
or it's recorded,
but it's locked away
2047
01:43:02,510 --> 01:43:05,972
and you can only retrieve it
in a hypnotic state.
2048
01:43:06,097 --> 01:43:09,017
And so Sirhan's own defense team
had hypnotized him
2049
01:43:09,142 --> 01:43:12,520
to try to get him to remember
what happened in the pantry.
2050
01:43:18,902 --> 01:43:21,405
- And it turned out
that what Sirhan remembered
2051
01:43:21,530 --> 01:43:24,282
from that night
in hypnosis was meeting
2052
01:43:24,407 --> 01:43:27,327
a very attractive girl
in a polka dot dress.
2053
01:43:35,668 --> 01:43:36,920
He remembers her taking him
2054
01:43:37,045 --> 01:43:38,922
to the center in the pantry.
2055
01:43:51,058 --> 01:43:52,852
- The choking isalmost killing him.
2056
01:43:52,978 --> 01:43:55,022
So that almost brings him outof hypnosis.
2057
01:43:55,147 --> 01:43:59,108
No recollection
of Robert Kennedy at all there.
2058
01:43:59,943 --> 01:44:01,945
There were witnesses
who saw this girl
2059
01:44:02,070 --> 01:44:04,280
that Sirhan remembered
seeing under hypnosis.
2060
01:44:04,405 --> 01:44:06,283
One of them was Sandy Serrano.
2061
01:44:06,408 --> 01:44:07,867
Everybody was in the main room,
2062
01:44:07,993 --> 01:44:09,285
you know, listening to him speak,
2063
01:44:09,410 --> 01:44:10,245
and it was too hot.
2064
01:44:10,370 --> 01:44:12,872
So I went outsideand I was out on the terrace.
2065
01:44:12,998 --> 01:44:16,293
Then this girl came running down
the stairs in the back.
2066
01:44:16,418 --> 01:44:18,212
I can remember what she had on
and everything.
2067
01:44:18,337 --> 01:44:20,547
She had on a white dress
with polka dots.
2068
01:44:21,507 --> 01:44:23,425
She came running down
the stairs and said,
2069
01:44:23,550 --> 01:44:25,760
"We've shot him,
we've shot him."
2070
01:44:26,010 --> 01:44:28,180
And I said, "Who did you shoot?"
2071
01:44:28,305 --> 01:44:30,807
And she says,
"We’ve shot Senator Kennedy."
2072
01:44:31,433 --> 01:44:33,393
- Sandy'sobviously distressed.
2073
01:44:33,518 --> 01:44:35,228
So what did the police do?
2074
01:44:35,353 --> 01:44:39,148
Hank Hernandez and Manny Penawere the two people
2075
01:44:39,273 --> 01:44:42,568
at the LAPD charged with
the conspiracy investigation.
2076
01:44:42,693 --> 01:44:45,738
However, both of them had former
intelligence backgrounds
2077
01:44:45,863 --> 01:44:47,615
and ties to the CIA.
2078
01:44:47,740 --> 01:44:49,785
They interviewed her
multiple times
2079
01:44:49,910 --> 01:44:51,828
and she wasn't
changing her story.
2080
01:44:51,953 --> 01:44:54,957
So Hank Hernandez runs
what can only be called
2081
01:44:55,082 --> 01:44:57,500
psychological warfare against her.
2082
01:45:18,230 --> 01:45:20,482
- Eventually she's like,
I don't know.
2083
01:45:20,607 --> 01:45:22,233
Maybe I misheard.
2084
01:45:22,358 --> 01:45:24,903
And that's how they shut down
that angle.
2085
01:45:26,863 --> 01:45:31,075
However, the topic of hypnosis
and mind control was so powerful
2086
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:34,120
and so sensitive
that when Nixon fired Helms
2087
01:45:34,245 --> 01:45:36,665
after the whole Watergate debacle,
2088
01:45:36,790 --> 01:45:38,792
Helms on his way out
of the agency,
2089
01:45:38,917 --> 01:45:40,377
the one thing
he asked them to destroy
2090
01:45:40,502 --> 01:45:42,628
was all the MK Ultra files.
2091
01:45:43,213 --> 01:45:45,215
That leads you to conclude what?
2092
01:45:45,882 --> 01:45:48,093
-My opinion is really irrelevant.
2093
01:45:48,218 --> 01:45:51,012
What's important is
what the facts say.
2094
01:45:51,137 --> 01:45:55,183
I've asked for a reinvestigation
of the murder.
2095
01:46:33,180 --> 01:46:35,640
- Six of SenatorRobert Kennedy's, ten children
2096
01:46:35,765 --> 01:46:36,808
had been with him in California.
2097
01:46:36,933 --> 01:46:39,812
They were flown back late todayaboard a government plane.
2098
01:46:49,695 --> 01:46:51,448
The tragedy and senseless violence
2099
01:46:51,573 --> 01:46:53,032
of Robert F. Kennedy's death
2100
01:46:53,158 --> 01:46:55,952
casts a deep shadowof grief across America
2101
01:46:56,077 --> 01:46:57,745
and across the world.
2102
01:46:59,247 --> 01:47:02,292
The presidential proclamationwent on to declare Sunday
2103
01:47:02,417 --> 01:47:04,920
as a national day of mourning
2104
01:47:05,045 --> 01:47:07,380
over the deathof Senator Robert Kennedy.
2105
01:47:11,300 --> 01:47:14,512
- The senator's body
was flown back to New York,
2106
01:47:14,637 --> 01:47:18,433
and then there was
a train ride that took him
2107
01:47:19,142 --> 01:47:22,020
to Arlington Cemetery
to be buried beside his brother.
2108
01:47:22,812 --> 01:47:24,857
And Bobby Jr. said
that he would never forget
2109
01:47:24,982 --> 01:47:27,400
looking out that train window
2110
01:47:28,152 --> 01:47:31,613
at the thousands of people gathered
2111
01:47:31,738 --> 01:47:33,948
to pay homage to his father.
2112
01:47:38,537 --> 01:47:41,582
Bobby Jr. spent some time
in the office
2113
01:47:41,707 --> 01:47:43,583
that his father sometimes used,
2114
01:47:44,458 --> 01:47:45,960
and he looked around
at the walls
2115
01:47:46,085 --> 01:47:49,505
and there were all these
photographs of Kennedys
2116
01:47:49,630 --> 01:47:52,092
and Kennedy relatives,
2117
01:47:52,217 --> 01:47:55,262
including his Uncle Joe,
who he never knew
2118
01:47:55,387 --> 01:47:57,263
because he was killed
during World War II.
2119
01:47:57,888 --> 01:48:00,225
An Aunt Kick
that he never knew either
2120
01:48:00,350 --> 01:48:03,143
because she was killed
in a plane crash
2121
01:48:03,270 --> 01:48:04,687
in the late 1940s,
2122
01:48:06,313 --> 01:48:09,692
and he realized
they're all dead.
2123
01:48:12,195 --> 01:48:14,447
My brother need not be idealized
2124
01:48:15,407 --> 01:48:18,535
or enlarged in deathbeyond what he was in life,
2125
01:48:19,785 --> 01:48:22,455
to be remembered simplyas a good and decent man
2126
01:48:24,082 --> 01:48:26,292
who saw wrong
and tried to right it,
2127
01:48:27,543 --> 01:48:29,963
saw suffering and tried to heal it,
2128
01:48:30,755 --> 01:48:33,258
saw a war and tried to stop it.
2129
01:48:35,427 --> 01:48:39,555
As he said many times
in many parts of this nation,
2130
01:48:41,223 --> 01:48:44,685
some men see things as they are
and say, “Why?”
2131
01:48:45,687 --> 01:48:48,982
I dream things that never were
and say, “Why not?”
2132
01:49:07,708 --> 01:49:09,585
- My father,
he would give me things to read
2133
01:49:09,710 --> 01:49:11,212
all the time and poems
2134
01:49:11,337 --> 01:49:12,755
and books, et cetera.
2135
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,092
It was about a couple of weeks
before he died
2136
01:49:15,217 --> 01:49:18,387
and he said to me,
with this unusual intensity,
2137
01:49:19,470 --> 01:49:23,057
I want you to read this book
called The Plague.
2138
01:49:23,517 --> 01:49:27,895
The book is about a doctor
who is in a quarantine city
2139
01:49:28,020 --> 01:49:29,313
in North Africa,
2140
01:49:29,438 --> 01:49:31,608
and there's a plague
raging through the city,
2141
01:49:31,733 --> 01:49:33,025
and nobody can go in or out
2142
01:49:33,150 --> 01:49:35,028
and it doesn't tell
what the name of the plague is,
2143
01:49:35,153 --> 01:49:37,780
and nobody knows,
but everybody is dying.
2144
01:49:38,407 --> 01:49:39,950
And a lot of the beginning
of the book
2145
01:49:40,075 --> 01:49:42,993
is a conversation that this
doctor is having with himself
2146
01:49:43,118 --> 01:49:46,080
about whether he should venture
out of his apartment
2147
01:49:46,205 --> 01:49:50,002
because he knows
that if he goes to help people,
2148
01:49:50,127 --> 01:49:51,712
he's highly likely to die
2149
01:49:51,837 --> 01:49:54,630
and very unlikely
to be able to help anybody
2150
01:49:55,298 --> 01:49:57,425
because nobody knows how to help.
2151
01:49:58,092 --> 01:50:02,930
In the end,
he goes out and does his duty
2152
01:50:03,055 --> 01:50:04,723
and consoles people,
2153
01:50:04,848 --> 01:50:08,185
does the best he can
to bring comfort to people.
2154
01:50:10,438 --> 01:50:15,277
And so after he died,
I read the book several times
2155
01:50:15,402 --> 01:50:19,197
trying to unlock the key
2156
01:50:19,322 --> 01:50:22,242
of what message
he had been trying to tell me.
2157
01:50:23,743 --> 01:50:26,245
This doctor,
he accepted his burden
2158
01:50:26,955 --> 01:50:28,540
and he did his duty.
2159
01:50:28,665 --> 01:50:31,042
And it brings
a sense of wellbeing
2160
01:50:31,167 --> 01:50:33,962
that you're doing
what you're supposed to do.
2161
01:50:35,005 --> 01:50:37,882
And for me, it makes sense
2162
01:50:38,007 --> 01:50:42,178
because I find that
the best way for me to live
2163
01:50:42,887 --> 01:50:46,182
is to make the effort
to do the next right thing,
2164
01:50:46,307 --> 01:50:49,352
to get up every morning,
say reporting for duty, sir,
2165
01:50:49,977 --> 01:50:51,772
and then let go of the results,
2166
01:50:52,272 --> 01:50:53,898
that the outcome’s in God's hands.
2167
01:50:54,023 --> 01:50:55,608
We do what we're supposed to do.
2168
01:50:55,733 --> 01:50:58,570
But if the boulder needs
to roll back on us,
2169
01:50:58,695 --> 01:51:01,530
then that's okay.
We'll push it up again.
2170
01:51:09,330 --> 01:51:12,917
- I've come heretoday to announce my candidacy
2171
01:51:13,042 --> 01:51:14,418
for the Democratic nomination
2172
01:51:14,543 --> 01:51:16,253
for President of the United States.
2173
01:51:27,307 --> 01:51:30,310
It is very painful for me
2174
01:51:30,435 --> 01:51:34,688
to let go of the party
of my uncles, my father,
2175
01:51:34,813 --> 01:51:38,358
but I'm here to declare myself
an independent candidate.
2176
01:51:48,412 --> 01:51:50,705
Each time that our volunteers
2177
01:51:50,955 --> 01:51:54,250
turned in those towering boxesof signatures needed
2178
01:51:54,375 --> 01:51:55,585
to get on the ballot,
2179
01:51:56,168 --> 01:51:59,963
the DNC dragged us into courtin state after state
2180
01:52:00,090 --> 01:52:02,258
attempting to erase their work.
2181
01:52:05,845 --> 01:52:08,848
- Ultimately, the onlything that will save our country
2182
01:52:09,307 --> 01:52:14,145
and our children
is if we choose to love our kids
2183
01:52:14,270 --> 01:52:16,105
more than we hate each other.
2184
01:52:21,820 --> 01:52:23,655
- The first thing
I've done every morning
2185
01:52:23,780 --> 01:52:28,868
for the past 20 years is to get
on my knees and pray to God
2186
01:52:28,993 --> 01:52:31,120
that he would put me in a position
2187
01:52:31,370 --> 01:52:33,832
to end the
chronic disease epidemic
2188
01:52:33,957 --> 01:52:36,375
and to help America's children.
2189
01:52:42,465 --> 01:52:44,300
Ours has always been a family
2190
01:52:44,425 --> 01:52:47,262
that has been involved
in public service,
2191
01:52:47,387 --> 01:52:49,888
and I look forward
to continuing that tradition.
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