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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:29,197 --> 00:00:31,783 -I am announcing today my candidacy 2 00:00:32,658 --> 00:00:35,578 for the presidency of the United States. 3 00:00:38,748 --> 00:00:41,333 I run to seek new policies, 4 00:00:41,458 --> 00:00:43,545 policies to close the gaps 5 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:47,007 that now exist between black and white, 6 00:00:47,132 --> 00:00:49,258 between rich and poor, 7 00:00:49,383 --> 00:00:50,885 between young and old. 8 00:00:52,012 --> 00:00:54,013 I run for the presidency 9 00:00:54,138 --> 00:00:57,058 because I want the United States of America 10 00:00:57,183 --> 00:01:00,353 to stand for hope instead of despair. 11 00:01:02,188 --> 00:01:04,773 I have traveled and I have listened to the young people 12 00:01:04,898 --> 00:01:07,568 of our nation and felt their anger 13 00:01:07,693 --> 00:01:10,405 about the war that they are sent to fight 14 00:01:10,530 --> 00:01:13,658 and about the world that they are about to inherit. 15 00:01:14,783 --> 00:01:17,537 - Last week he criticized the Vietnam policy. 16 00:01:17,662 --> 00:01:20,790 This week he focused attention on the plight of the poor. 17 00:01:24,377 --> 00:01:27,672 These are not ordinary times 18 00:01:27,797 --> 00:01:30,467 and this is not an ordinary election. 19 00:01:30,592 --> 00:01:32,718 The fight is just beginning. 20 00:01:35,012 --> 00:01:38,642 - Campaign '68, the Indiana primary. 21 00:01:38,767 --> 00:01:40,810 This primary would offer the first toe to toe meeting 22 00:01:40,935 --> 00:01:43,647 between Senators Kennedy and McCarthy. 23 00:01:43,772 --> 00:01:45,523 - There's more that we have to accomplish. 24 00:01:45,648 --> 00:01:46,690 I think the deep divisions 25 00:01:46,817 --> 00:01:49,152 within our country are unacceptable. 26 00:01:49,277 --> 00:01:51,195 I think that we can heal them. 27 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,738 I think that we can do better. 28 00:01:54,073 --> 00:01:55,783 - Senator Robert Kennedy has won 29 00:01:55,908 --> 00:01:57,577 the first primary test. 30 00:01:57,702 --> 00:02:00,078 - He apparently will have all 23 votes 31 00:02:00,205 --> 00:02:02,332 at the Democratic National Convention. 32 00:02:02,457 --> 00:02:04,042 - And I intend to go on trying to do that 33 00:02:04,167 --> 00:02:06,168 in the state of Nebraska and the state of Oregon 34 00:02:06,293 --> 00:02:08,880 and the state of California. 35 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,092 - Well, it's a real horse race out in Oregon. 36 00:02:13,217 --> 00:02:16,303 Senator Eugene McCarthy by a 6% victory margin 37 00:02:16,428 --> 00:02:18,222 over Senator Robert Kennedy. 38 00:02:18,347 --> 00:02:19,182 - Good luck to you, Mr. Kennedy. 39 00:02:19,307 --> 00:02:20,183 Thank you very much. 40 00:02:20,308 --> 00:02:21,433 - Get 'em, Bob-- good luck to you. 41 00:02:21,558 --> 00:02:22,393 Thank you. 42 00:02:22,518 --> 00:02:24,103 That war still goes on. 43 00:02:24,228 --> 00:02:25,938 Of all of the presidential candidates, 44 00:02:26,063 --> 00:02:28,357 I was the first one to speak out against 45 00:02:28,482 --> 00:02:31,610 the way the war was being conducted. 46 00:02:31,735 --> 00:02:34,322 I'm not going to be satisfied until that war is over 47 00:02:34,447 --> 00:02:37,408 and American Soldiers are brought back here. 48 00:02:42,372 --> 00:02:44,415 - An hour and a half after the polls have closed 49 00:02:44,540 --> 00:02:45,417 in California, 50 00:02:45,542 --> 00:02:46,877 the biggest primary of them all, 51 00:02:47,002 --> 00:02:50,213 a slate of delegates pledged to Senator Eugene McCarthy. 52 00:02:50,338 --> 00:02:51,588 It's a very tight race now. 53 00:02:51,713 --> 00:02:54,425 McCarthy has 43%. 54 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:58,555 That small gain, Kennedy is pulling ahead. 55 00:03:00,138 --> 00:03:02,142 The votes are all in now. 56 00:03:03,643 --> 00:03:07,022 Senator Robert Kennedy claiming victory in California. 57 00:03:08,648 --> 00:03:09,690 He's entering the ballroom 58 00:03:09,815 --> 00:03:11,858 and you can hear the cheers from the supporters. 59 00:03:15,447 --> 00:03:16,738 My thanks to all of you, 60 00:03:16,863 --> 00:03:18,783 and now it's on to Chicago and let's win there. 61 00:03:26,748 --> 00:03:28,710 Kennedy has been shot. 62 00:04:10,460 --> 00:04:14,213 - Robert, do you think there's a Kennedy curse? 63 00:04:15,757 --> 00:04:17,758 I don't know if there's a curse 64 00:04:17,883 --> 00:04:20,428 or whether there might be a gene 65 00:04:20,553 --> 00:04:25,265 that disposes people in my family toward risk. 66 00:04:26,433 --> 00:04:29,687 In the summertime during the Camelot years, 67 00:04:29,812 --> 00:04:34,692 I was raised on Cape Cod and we lived almost communally 68 00:04:34,817 --> 00:04:37,653 in a compound where each family had a house 69 00:04:37,778 --> 00:04:39,488 that was next to each other. 70 00:04:40,238 --> 00:04:41,992 All the kids, there were 29 cousins 71 00:04:42,117 --> 00:04:46,912 and we ate together every night and we ate at a different house. 72 00:04:47,038 --> 00:04:50,123 And then all the kids played together during the day. 73 00:04:50,248 --> 00:04:51,750 We had a regimen. 74 00:04:51,875 --> 00:04:55,338 We had to take tennis lessons, sailing lessons, boxing lessons. 75 00:04:55,463 --> 00:04:57,382 - It's like summer camp. - Like summer camp. 76 00:04:57,507 --> 00:05:01,010 We played baseball every day and we played football every day 77 00:05:01,135 --> 00:05:02,387 and we all did that together. 78 00:05:02,512 --> 00:05:04,388 So it was really like being raised 79 00:05:04,513 --> 00:05:07,558 in one really massive family. 80 00:05:07,683 --> 00:05:08,685 Did your mother ever hug you 81 00:05:08,810 --> 00:05:09,768 or father ever hug you? 82 00:05:09,893 --> 00:05:10,728 -Oh yeah. 83 00:05:10,853 --> 00:05:12,022 There was affection. 84 00:05:12,147 --> 00:05:14,065 -Yeah, there was lots of affection in our family, 85 00:05:14,190 --> 00:05:16,858 lots of fights and lots of affection. 86 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,073 - I want to ask you now about your father. 87 00:05:26,743 --> 00:05:27,787 Attorney General Robert Kennedy 88 00:05:27,912 --> 00:05:30,122 paints a grim picture of the rise of lawlessness 89 00:05:30,247 --> 00:05:32,625 under the Cosa Nostra or mafia. 90 00:05:32,750 --> 00:05:34,960 This he describes as the government of organized 91 00:05:35,085 --> 00:05:38,297 gambling, narcotics peddling, extortion, racketeering 92 00:05:38,422 --> 00:05:40,633 and controlling of certain trade unions. 93 00:05:40,758 --> 00:05:43,677 He says the income runs into billions. 94 00:05:45,722 --> 00:05:46,638 - Bobby Kennedy, 95 00:05:46,763 --> 00:05:48,892 I mean, he was a born investigator. 96 00:05:49,017 --> 00:05:52,270 He was a fantastic investigator, senate investigator. 97 00:05:52,395 --> 00:05:54,147 What did you do then Mr. Hoffa? 98 00:05:54,272 --> 00:05:57,775 Did you say, "That SOB, I'll break his back." 99 00:05:57,900 --> 00:05:59,110 - Who? - You. 100 00:05:59,235 --> 00:06:00,403 You can't remember what you talked about 101 00:06:00,528 --> 00:06:02,238 and you can't remember whether he was in your-- 102 00:06:02,363 --> 00:06:04,615 -Wouldn't have been anything of any importance, Mr. Kennedy 103 00:06:04,740 --> 00:06:06,658 and I can't recall it. 104 00:06:06,783 --> 00:06:08,660 - Tell me, does Bob ever strike you 105 00:06:08,787 --> 00:06:12,790 as a seemingly mild-mannered man for a rackets investigator? 106 00:06:13,415 --> 00:06:15,543 -Well, I'm awfully surprised most of the time 107 00:06:15,668 --> 00:06:17,712 when he really keeps his temper, 108 00:06:17,837 --> 00:06:20,423 when witnesses aren't telling the truth 109 00:06:20,548 --> 00:06:21,507 and being quite frank 110 00:06:21,632 --> 00:06:23,843 or when they take the Fifth Amendment so often. 111 00:06:23,968 --> 00:06:26,512 -You knew this was going on for all this period of time. 112 00:06:26,637 --> 00:06:29,807 Mr. Hoffa, it's just beyond the powers of comprehension 113 00:06:29,932 --> 00:06:31,475 that you can't recall that. 114 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:32,643 - Just a matter of great self-control. 115 00:06:32,768 --> 00:06:33,685 Is that right? 116 00:06:33,812 --> 00:06:35,187 -I think so. 117 00:06:35,312 --> 00:06:37,690 - Robert Kenny was definitely more conservative 118 00:06:37,815 --> 00:06:39,233 than his brother initially 119 00:06:39,358 --> 00:06:42,528 and saw the world in a little more black and white terms 120 00:06:42,653 --> 00:06:44,113 than JFK did. 121 00:06:44,988 --> 00:06:47,658 Bobby really didn't like politicians 122 00:06:47,783 --> 00:06:49,660 and didn't want to have anything to do with politics 123 00:06:49,785 --> 00:06:51,370 and was kind of dragged kicking 124 00:06:51,495 --> 00:06:53,663 and screaming into supporting his brother 125 00:06:53,790 --> 00:06:56,042 when he first ran for senator. 126 00:06:56,167 --> 00:06:58,335 - My brother Bobby, who managed the campaign, 127 00:06:58,460 --> 00:07:01,172 perhaps he could give us some idea more up to date 128 00:07:01,297 --> 00:07:02,965 of what the final figures were. 129 00:07:03,090 --> 00:07:07,303 -I think that what we got up to about 20 minutes ago, 130 00:07:07,428 --> 00:07:09,097 you were winning by about 70,000. 131 00:07:09,222 --> 00:07:10,138 - Well, I'm guess you're glad it's over, 132 00:07:10,263 --> 00:07:11,098 aren't you Bobby? 133 00:07:11,223 --> 00:07:12,558 - I am at that. - Okay. 134 00:07:14,477 --> 00:07:16,187 It was not his choice. 135 00:07:16,312 --> 00:07:19,398 Bobby had a nice job with the Department of Justice then 136 00:07:19,523 --> 00:07:22,108 investigating communists and subversives 137 00:07:22,235 --> 00:07:23,277 and he enjoyed that. 138 00:07:23,402 --> 00:07:24,237 He was good at that. 139 00:07:24,362 --> 00:07:27,030 He didn't want to get involved in politics. 140 00:07:27,157 --> 00:07:30,075 -I am today announcing my candidacy 141 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,828 for the presidency of the United States. 142 00:07:32,953 --> 00:07:34,955 - But he really came to believe in his brother 143 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,167 and his vision for the world 144 00:07:37,292 --> 00:07:40,670 and what a really good leader could do for the world. 145 00:07:43,088 --> 00:07:44,923 Now my wife and I prepare 146 00:07:45,048 --> 00:07:48,802 for a new administration and for a new baby. 147 00:07:49,845 --> 00:07:51,513 In the appointments I have made, 148 00:07:51,638 --> 00:07:54,017 I have sought the most qualified men, 149 00:07:54,142 --> 00:07:57,603 men of ability and a desire to serve their country. 150 00:07:57,728 --> 00:08:01,148 It is with great pleasure that I announce the appointment 151 00:08:01,273 --> 00:08:04,235 of Robert F. Kennedy as Attorney General. 152 00:08:07,197 --> 00:08:08,655 - That building across the street 153 00:08:08,780 --> 00:08:11,283 there is the US Department of Justice. 154 00:08:11,408 --> 00:08:13,035 You may be able to see lights burning 155 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,995 in the fifth floor office 156 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,540 of Attorney General Robert Kennedy. 157 00:08:18,582 --> 00:08:20,417 The late night work is a symbol 158 00:08:20,543 --> 00:08:23,087 of the vigor of the Kennedy administration. 159 00:08:23,963 --> 00:08:25,548 Then Attorney General Kennedy 160 00:08:25,673 --> 00:08:27,633 declared his major mission-- 161 00:08:28,467 --> 00:08:30,093 hunting organized crime. 162 00:08:30,218 --> 00:08:31,553 Some of these big time gangsters 163 00:08:31,678 --> 00:08:33,513 corrupt the very system under which we live 164 00:08:33,638 --> 00:08:35,098 and something has to be done about it 165 00:08:35,223 --> 00:08:36,392 and the only thing that's going to be done 166 00:08:36,517 --> 00:08:37,768 is by the American people 167 00:08:37,893 --> 00:08:39,603 and those charged with authority, 168 00:08:39,728 --> 00:08:41,772 taking some major steps and doing them now. 169 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,282 The Attorney General, Bobby, 170 00:08:51,407 --> 00:08:54,077 is a very attractive human being, 171 00:08:54,202 --> 00:08:56,162 but his greatest weakness, 172 00:08:56,287 --> 00:08:59,040 the thing that I've worried about before he was appointed 173 00:08:59,165 --> 00:09:01,000 is that when he's bent on what he thinks 174 00:09:01,125 --> 00:09:02,460 is the right course, 175 00:09:02,585 --> 00:09:04,212 he's rather ruthless in action. 176 00:09:05,420 --> 00:09:07,047 - Mr. Hoffa, Robert Kennedy called 177 00:09:07,172 --> 00:09:09,133 for a broader wiretap law. 178 00:09:09,258 --> 00:09:11,760 -I say that if he can push through a wiretap, 179 00:09:11,885 --> 00:09:13,387 he can have a greater police state 180 00:09:13,512 --> 00:09:15,472 than he already has in this country. 181 00:09:15,598 --> 00:09:17,015 -Have a couple of words with you, sir? 182 00:09:17,140 --> 00:09:19,227 - An attorney general like Bobby Kennedy, 183 00:09:19,352 --> 00:09:21,728 he has a personal desire 184 00:09:21,853 --> 00:09:24,023 to destroy those who may oppose him. 185 00:09:24,148 --> 00:09:25,440 - And was true. 186 00:09:25,565 --> 00:09:26,817 He was a pretty ruthless guy. 187 00:09:26,942 --> 00:09:29,737 He was taken on these, he was taken on mob figures. 188 00:09:29,862 --> 00:09:31,863 - Would you tell us if you have opposition 189 00:09:31,988 --> 00:09:33,573 from anybody that you dispose of them 190 00:09:33,698 --> 00:09:35,033 by having them stuffed in a trunk? 191 00:09:35,158 --> 00:09:36,618 Is that what you do, Mr. Giancana? 192 00:09:36,743 --> 00:09:38,078 -I decline to answer because I honestly believe 193 00:09:38,203 --> 00:09:40,038 my answer might tend incriminate me. 194 00:09:40,163 --> 00:09:41,040 Can you tell us anything 195 00:09:41,165 --> 00:09:42,500 about any of your operations 196 00:09:42,625 --> 00:09:45,670 or you just giggle every time I ask you a question? 197 00:09:45,795 --> 00:09:48,297 I thought only a little girls giggled, Mr. Giancana. 198 00:09:49,382 --> 00:09:51,508 He was a crusader 199 00:09:51,633 --> 00:09:53,468 that really didn't care who he stepped on. 200 00:09:58,515 --> 00:10:01,643 - As the Kennedy presidency went on, 201 00:10:01,768 --> 00:10:05,732 Bobby Kennedy had to take on more and more responsibilities. 202 00:10:06,523 --> 00:10:08,358 He was in charge of civil rights. 203 00:10:08,483 --> 00:10:09,527 -These students are going to attend 204 00:10:09,652 --> 00:10:11,070 the University of Alabama. 205 00:10:11,195 --> 00:10:12,780 - During the most increasingly hostile 206 00:10:12,905 --> 00:10:15,700 and tense moments of the presidency. 207 00:10:15,825 --> 00:10:17,410 - James Hood is the first of his race 208 00:10:17,535 --> 00:10:20,245 to become a University of Alabama student. 209 00:10:20,370 --> 00:10:22,332 - In fact, Bobby Kennedy was put 210 00:10:22,457 --> 00:10:26,127 kind of in charge of the CIA in an informal way. 211 00:10:26,252 --> 00:10:30,338 Bobby began each day driving from McLean, Virginia, 212 00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:33,717 his estate, past Langley, the CIA's headquarters 213 00:10:33,842 --> 00:10:36,345 and stopping to keep an eye on the CIA. 214 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:38,805 He was also in charge of Cuba. 215 00:10:38,930 --> 00:10:41,433 President Kennedy gave him the Cuba portfolio 216 00:10:41,558 --> 00:10:44,228 as part of his anti-communist task force. 217 00:10:44,937 --> 00:10:47,313 Why was Bobby Kennedy compelled to take on 218 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,775 all this responsibility? 219 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:52,528 Because his brother, JFK, 220 00:10:52,653 --> 00:10:55,280 couldn't trust his own State Department, 221 00:10:55,405 --> 00:10:58,492 the Pentagon, and of course, the CIA. 222 00:10:59,118 --> 00:11:02,580 - And my uncle and my father realized 223 00:11:02,705 --> 00:11:05,040 that the CIA was a problem. 224 00:11:05,165 --> 00:11:08,835 Dulles had lied to him about the Bay of Pigs. 225 00:11:09,503 --> 00:11:10,797 Director Allen Dulles 226 00:11:10,922 --> 00:11:13,798 was working on the plan to invade Cuba 227 00:11:13,923 --> 00:11:15,342 and get rid of Fidel Castro 228 00:11:15,467 --> 00:11:17,928 by enlisting right-wing Cuban exiles 229 00:11:18,053 --> 00:11:21,348 who were living in Miami and hated Castro. 230 00:11:21,473 --> 00:11:24,393 - My uncle, he didn't want to do it. 231 00:11:24,518 --> 00:11:26,145 He thought we would look like a bully 232 00:11:26,270 --> 00:11:29,857 if we had anything to do with an invasion of Cuba. 233 00:11:29,982 --> 00:11:32,943 And Dulles persuaded him that the Cuban brigade 234 00:11:33,068 --> 00:11:34,987 would not need US help. 235 00:11:35,112 --> 00:11:37,155 - At a place called the Bay of Pigs, 236 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,200 a landing was made by a Cuban exile brigade. 237 00:11:40,325 --> 00:11:42,327 The brigade recruited, paid, trained, 238 00:11:42,453 --> 00:11:46,248 supplied by the CIA in perhaps the largest covert operation 239 00:11:46,373 --> 00:11:48,167 in the history of subversion. 240 00:11:48,292 --> 00:11:51,128 But the invasion of Cuba failed 241 00:11:51,253 --> 00:11:52,880 and the Cuban exiles were caught, 242 00:11:53,005 --> 00:11:55,298 a lot of them, and taken prisoner by Castro. 243 00:11:56,092 --> 00:11:58,177 - The Bay of Pigs disaster was a military 244 00:11:58,302 --> 00:12:00,387 and diplomatic defeat for the new president. 245 00:12:01,055 --> 00:12:04,015 - President Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy figured out 246 00:12:04,142 --> 00:12:06,602 that Allen Dulles knew well in advance 247 00:12:06,727 --> 00:12:09,272 that the Cuban brigade were not capable 248 00:12:09,397 --> 00:12:11,565 of pulling off such a mission. 249 00:12:11,690 --> 00:12:13,942 Castro could only be overthrown 250 00:12:14,067 --> 00:12:17,237 if the full might of the US military came in. 251 00:12:17,362 --> 00:12:20,032 - He had planned for the operation to fail 252 00:12:20,157 --> 00:12:23,118 in the hopes that Kennedy would not want to fail 253 00:12:23,243 --> 00:12:24,453 and send in the troops. 254 00:12:24,578 --> 00:12:26,663 There were Navy ships positioned right off Cuba 255 00:12:26,788 --> 00:12:29,583 ready to go in and support the operation. 256 00:12:30,250 --> 00:12:32,878 Kennedy is just furious 257 00:12:33,003 --> 00:12:34,922 and he fires Allen Dulles, 258 00:12:35,047 --> 00:12:36,882 this legendary director who has served 259 00:12:37,007 --> 00:12:39,677 every president since Woodrow Wilson. 260 00:12:40,302 --> 00:12:43,138 But unbeknownst to the Kennedys 261 00:12:43,263 --> 00:12:46,975 elements of the CIA and the military were rogue. 262 00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:49,645 They were going off on their own in order to achieve 263 00:12:49,770 --> 00:12:52,188 what they believed were the right objectives-- 264 00:12:52,313 --> 00:12:54,817 assassinate Castro, take him out. 265 00:12:54,942 --> 00:12:59,363 And in fact, the CIA kept enlisting mafia figures 266 00:12:59,488 --> 00:13:02,492 and they were the ones who were helping arrange 267 00:13:02,617 --> 00:13:06,578 for these assassination plots against Castro inside of Cuba. 268 00:13:06,703 --> 00:13:08,622 Bobby Kennedy was furious 269 00:13:08,747 --> 00:13:10,790 when he heard that the mafia of all people 270 00:13:10,917 --> 00:13:12,208 who he was going after-- 271 00:13:12,333 --> 00:13:13,668 Public Enemy Number One-- 272 00:13:13,793 --> 00:13:15,838 was working with the CIA. 273 00:13:15,963 --> 00:13:17,715 He confronted the CIA about this. 274 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,883 He said with icy sarcasm, 275 00:13:20,008 --> 00:13:23,637 I hope in the future that you will have the goodness 276 00:13:23,762 --> 00:13:27,098 to tell the Attorney General if you're working with the mob. 277 00:13:27,223 --> 00:13:29,227 - The Kennedys said the assassination plots 278 00:13:29,352 --> 00:13:33,397 against Castro have got to stop, but they didn't stop. 279 00:13:33,522 --> 00:13:36,025 - Even as Robert Kennedy is telling the CIA, 280 00:13:36,150 --> 00:13:37,400 "Don't kill Castro," 281 00:13:37,527 --> 00:13:39,820 they had plots in motion to kill Castro 282 00:13:39,945 --> 00:13:42,030 and so they just didn't tell him. 283 00:13:42,657 --> 00:13:46,035 I mean, the insubordination of the CIA against 284 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,122 the Kennedy brothers is shocking to me. 285 00:13:58,130 --> 00:14:00,215 - Good evening, my fellow citizens. 286 00:14:00,340 --> 00:14:03,260 Unmistakable evidence has established the fact 287 00:14:03,385 --> 00:14:06,430 that a series of offensive missile sites 288 00:14:06,555 --> 00:14:09,767 is now in preparation on the island of Cuba. 289 00:14:09,892 --> 00:14:13,228 The purpose of these bases can be none other 290 00:14:13,353 --> 00:14:16,232 than to provide a nuclear strike capability 291 00:14:16,357 --> 00:14:17,983 against the western hemisphere. 292 00:14:19,235 --> 00:14:20,068 The world was on the brink 293 00:14:20,193 --> 00:14:22,362 of a nuclear holocaust. 294 00:14:29,077 --> 00:14:32,707 - Unfortunately, for JFK, all his other advisors, 295 00:14:32,832 --> 00:14:37,712 every single one of them was advocating bombing Cuba. 296 00:14:47,012 --> 00:14:49,515 - The Kennedy brothers were determined 297 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,018 not to push this to the brink as the generals 298 00:14:53,143 --> 00:14:55,812 who just wanted to go in and bomb the missile sites, 299 00:15:01,943 --> 00:15:04,280 Bobby was the only one who said, 300 00:15:04,405 --> 00:15:05,280 we can't do that. 301 00:15:05,405 --> 00:15:08,783 This is crazy going in and bombing Cuba. 302 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:12,830 If we blow them up, there will be retaliation from the Soviets 303 00:15:12,955 --> 00:15:16,542 and this could quickly escalate to nuclear war. 304 00:15:22,463 --> 00:15:24,883 It was really Robert Kennedy 305 00:15:25,008 --> 00:15:27,803 who just took command of this situation. 306 00:15:27,928 --> 00:15:30,097 - He had the moral clarity to see 307 00:15:30,222 --> 00:15:34,058 that preventing nuclear war was the greatest good. 308 00:15:34,935 --> 00:15:37,353 - Interestingly, Robert Kennedy Jr has recalled 309 00:15:37,478 --> 00:15:40,107 that they wanted the Kennedy family, 310 00:15:40,232 --> 00:15:44,528 all the kids, to leave the city of Washington 311 00:15:44,653 --> 00:15:47,907 or Hickory Hill and go into a protected bunker 312 00:15:48,032 --> 00:15:51,243 that had been set up for high officials 313 00:15:51,368 --> 00:15:53,203 and they didn't do that. 314 00:15:53,328 --> 00:15:58,917 Their father said, if I pull you guys out of school 315 00:15:59,042 --> 00:16:02,628 and take you to that bunker, the country is going to panic, 316 00:16:02,755 --> 00:16:06,092 so let's just go on and go to school as usual 317 00:16:06,217 --> 00:16:08,843 and we'll solve this thing. 318 00:16:10,387 --> 00:16:12,848 - It shall be the policy of this nation 319 00:16:12,973 --> 00:16:16,227 to regard any nuclear missile launched from Cuba 320 00:16:16,352 --> 00:16:21,232 as an attack requiring a full retaliatory response 321 00:16:21,357 --> 00:16:23,900 upon the Soviet Union. 322 00:16:24,025 --> 00:16:27,112 - Robert Kennedy had a channel to the Russians-- 323 00:16:27,237 --> 00:16:29,407 back channel to the Premier Khrushchev. 324 00:16:29,532 --> 00:16:32,702 - There were two messages that came in back to back. 325 00:16:32,827 --> 00:16:35,495 - Friday night, got a message from Khrushchev. 326 00:16:35,620 --> 00:16:38,540 - First one was like, we will consider your terms, 327 00:16:38,665 --> 00:16:41,043 and the second one was, we don't accept your terms 328 00:16:41,168 --> 00:16:42,878 and Bobby's like answer the first letter, 329 00:16:43,003 --> 00:16:44,588 don't answer the second one. 330 00:16:47,132 --> 00:16:48,925 - Have to wait to see how it unfolds 331 00:16:49,050 --> 00:16:51,470 and there's a good deal of complexities to it. 332 00:16:51,595 --> 00:16:53,097 And through Bobby's diplomacy, 333 00:16:53,222 --> 00:16:55,723 they worked out a deal. 334 00:16:55,848 --> 00:16:59,437 - Which said that he would withdraw 335 00:16:59,562 --> 00:17:01,855 these missiles and technicians 336 00:17:01,980 --> 00:17:07,068 and so on providing we withdrew our missiles from Turkey. 337 00:17:07,193 --> 00:17:10,530 - And we agreed also not to try to kill Castro, 338 00:17:10,655 --> 00:17:13,242 not to invade the island. 339 00:17:13,367 --> 00:17:14,452 But we don't plan to invade Cuba 340 00:17:14,577 --> 00:17:16,745 under these conditions, anyway. 341 00:17:20,498 --> 00:17:22,583 - The Cuban Missile Crisis brought the world 342 00:17:22,708 --> 00:17:27,757 closer to a nuclear holocaust than anything we've seen since. 343 00:17:27,882 --> 00:17:31,760 - Across the world goes a long sigh of relief, 344 00:17:31,885 --> 00:17:37,140 and with it, the world's first nuclear showdown is over. 345 00:17:37,265 --> 00:17:40,685 - Without Bobby, if Bobby hadn't have been there, 346 00:17:40,810 --> 00:17:43,272 there's no guarantee America would be here today 347 00:17:43,397 --> 00:17:45,482 or any of us for that matter. 348 00:17:47,483 --> 00:17:48,985 He was called ruthless. 349 00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:52,280 But the fascinating thing about Robert Kennedy was that 350 00:17:52,405 --> 00:17:56,160 he was willing to grow and change. 351 00:17:57,702 --> 00:18:00,580 - And your father changed when, then? 352 00:18:07,545 --> 00:18:10,673 - The day that his brother was killed. 353 00:18:12,508 --> 00:18:14,135 - Hello? 354 00:18:15,553 --> 00:18:18,598 - My father changed after my uncle's death. 355 00:20:08,375 --> 00:20:10,168 - Ten years after his death, 356 00:20:10,293 --> 00:20:12,087 Robert Kennedy's widow and children 357 00:20:12,212 --> 00:20:15,257 and home are still very much together. 358 00:20:15,382 --> 00:20:17,550 So little seems to have changed. 359 00:20:17,675 --> 00:20:21,347 There still are dogs everywhere and children underfoot 360 00:20:21,472 --> 00:20:26,183 or airborne and something happening almost all the time. 361 00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:29,353 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is 24 now, 362 00:20:29,478 --> 00:20:32,148 a Harvard graduate and is entering law school. 363 00:20:33,817 --> 00:20:34,943 - Do you think your father's career 364 00:20:35,068 --> 00:20:37,612 will ultimately have an influence on where you go? 365 00:20:38,780 --> 00:20:39,948 - Well, like I said before, 366 00:20:40,073 --> 00:20:43,702 I think that really we've been raised the way we've been raised 367 00:20:43,827 --> 00:20:45,870 and I think the way that most of my family thinks 368 00:20:45,995 --> 00:20:49,625 is that his goals and a lot of his ideals 369 00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:51,502 were really worth pursuing. 370 00:20:53,378 --> 00:20:56,840 I didn't necessarily say I was going to go into politics. 371 00:20:56,965 --> 00:20:59,635 I'd always wanted to be a veterinarian, 372 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,430 but I think I felt some pressure after my father died 373 00:21:04,555 --> 00:21:06,933 to sort of change my career to try to do more of 374 00:21:07,058 --> 00:21:09,853 the kind of thing that he was trying to do. 375 00:21:12,438 --> 00:21:14,858 And I ended up, rather than going to veterinary school, 376 00:21:14,983 --> 00:21:16,693 going to law school 377 00:21:16,818 --> 00:21:18,987 and really followed his career path. 378 00:21:19,112 --> 00:21:20,988 I went to Harvard and then to University of Virginia, 379 00:21:21,113 --> 00:21:22,948 which he had done, 380 00:21:23,075 --> 00:21:25,285 and then I became an attorney and a prosecutor, 381 00:21:25,410 --> 00:21:28,913 which was kind of what my father had been doing. 382 00:21:29,038 --> 00:21:31,625 - In the wake of your father's death, 383 00:21:32,583 --> 00:21:34,418 you try to follow in his footsteps. 384 00:21:34,543 --> 00:21:35,712 You're going to the same schools, 385 00:21:35,837 --> 00:21:37,672 you become an attorney, 386 00:21:37,797 --> 00:21:40,967 but it didn't seem to work out and at this time, 387 00:21:41,092 --> 00:21:43,553 in this area, you have a drug addiction. 388 00:21:43,678 --> 00:21:45,930 How does that play out? 389 00:21:46,765 --> 00:21:48,850 - I started experimenting with drugs 390 00:21:48,975 --> 00:21:52,645 when I was 15, so a year after my dad's death. 391 00:21:52,770 --> 00:21:56,358 I never even had drank coffee by the time I was 15 392 00:21:56,483 --> 00:21:59,695 and then I was at a party for the older brother 393 00:21:59,820 --> 00:22:03,823 of a friend of mine in Cape Cod who had been drafted 394 00:22:03,948 --> 00:22:05,408 and was being shifted off to Vietnam 395 00:22:05,533 --> 00:22:07,535 and it was his goodbye party. 396 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:10,372 I was hitchhiking home from that party 397 00:22:11,415 --> 00:22:15,710 and an older kid picked me up and he offered me LSD. 398 00:22:15,835 --> 00:22:18,422 And LSD had just come to Cape Cod 399 00:22:18,547 --> 00:22:21,340 with the Merry Pranksters that night. 400 00:22:21,467 --> 00:22:23,385 I would not have taken LSD, 401 00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:28,223 but the week before these older kids had eaten peyote 402 00:22:28,348 --> 00:22:30,558 and they had taken a hallucinogenic trip 403 00:22:30,683 --> 00:22:32,935 and it had brought them back in time 404 00:22:33,812 --> 00:22:35,980 where they saw dinosaurs 405 00:22:37,023 --> 00:22:38,525 and my favorite comic book 406 00:22:38,650 --> 00:22:43,028 that I read every month was called Turok Son of Stone, 407 00:22:43,155 --> 00:22:45,615 which is about these two Indians. 408 00:22:45,740 --> 00:22:47,575 So I said to this kid, 409 00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:51,245 "If I take LSD, will I see dinosaurs?" 410 00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:53,038 And he said, "You might." 411 00:22:53,165 --> 00:22:57,043 And I had a trip that lasted probably for ten hours, 412 00:22:57,168 --> 00:23:00,672 extreme hallucinations 413 00:23:00,797 --> 00:23:02,965 and I had a ball, I had a lot of fun, 414 00:23:03,092 --> 00:23:06,052 but I was coming home in the morning 415 00:23:06,177 --> 00:23:08,638 and I was crashing and I was feeling depressed 416 00:23:08,763 --> 00:23:10,682 and remorseful and saying, 417 00:23:10,807 --> 00:23:12,517 "I'm never going to do that again." 418 00:23:12,642 --> 00:23:14,770 Plus, I had to go back and face my mom 419 00:23:14,895 --> 00:23:15,853 and we had a curfew 420 00:23:15,978 --> 00:23:18,440 and I was going to just be in misery 421 00:23:18,565 --> 00:23:22,152 and I saw these boys in the woods, 422 00:23:22,277 --> 00:23:24,905 they were all on LSD that night. 423 00:23:25,030 --> 00:23:27,782 I said to them I'm really crashing on this 424 00:23:27,907 --> 00:23:28,742 and feel miserable. 425 00:23:28,867 --> 00:23:30,243 And they said, "Try some of this," 426 00:23:30,368 --> 00:23:32,495 and it was crystal meth. 427 00:23:32,620 --> 00:23:36,500 And I took it so it was like I was in heaven 428 00:23:36,625 --> 00:23:38,877 and it solved all my problems. 429 00:23:39,585 --> 00:23:40,670 And that was the template 430 00:23:40,795 --> 00:23:42,838 for my addiction for the next 14 years 431 00:23:42,963 --> 00:23:45,258 of me constantly trying to stop 432 00:23:45,383 --> 00:23:48,928 and telling myself I'm never going to do that again 433 00:23:49,053 --> 00:23:51,890 and then finding myself doing it. 434 00:23:53,433 --> 00:23:58,062 I ran away from home when I was 16 years old 435 00:23:58,188 --> 00:24:00,273 and hopped freight trains across the country, 436 00:24:00,398 --> 00:24:02,025 disappeared for three months. 437 00:24:02,150 --> 00:24:04,485 I worked in a lumber camp in Colorado. 438 00:24:04,610 --> 00:24:09,740 I hitchhiked and rode the trains all over the country 439 00:24:10,742 --> 00:24:14,620 and had no contact with my mother. 440 00:24:14,745 --> 00:24:16,038 - Is this because she was tough? 441 00:24:16,163 --> 00:24:18,208 - My mother, I had a very troubled relationship 442 00:24:18,333 --> 00:24:23,172 with my mother from when I was born. 443 00:24:23,297 --> 00:24:25,632 She had a chemical reaction to me 444 00:24:25,757 --> 00:24:27,633 and I had the same thing to her 445 00:24:27,758 --> 00:24:32,638 and where my presence would get her agitated. 446 00:24:32,763 --> 00:24:33,932 - Bobby, who are you named after? 447 00:24:34,057 --> 00:24:35,058 - You, Bobby? 448 00:24:35,183 --> 00:24:37,060 - Can you get up and tell the television 449 00:24:37,185 --> 00:24:38,687 who you're named after, Bobby? 450 00:24:38,812 --> 00:24:39,770 No. 451 00:24:39,897 --> 00:24:42,523 Bobby, who are you putting over your head? 452 00:24:42,648 --> 00:24:43,733 - Percy. 453 00:24:43,858 --> 00:24:45,193 Percy his elephant. 454 00:24:46,778 --> 00:24:49,738 And uh-- 455 00:24:49,865 --> 00:24:51,533 I knew him. 456 00:24:51,658 --> 00:24:52,742 He ran away as a kid. 457 00:24:52,867 --> 00:24:56,705 He was kicked out of the house so many times on his adventures, 458 00:24:56,830 --> 00:25:00,208 but he loved his mother and his mother loved him. 459 00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:02,335 He was always the favorite. 460 00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:06,088 That's why when he screwed up so much, 461 00:25:06,213 --> 00:25:08,508 she was so disappointed with him. 462 00:25:09,050 --> 00:25:10,010 In the family at that point, 463 00:25:10,135 --> 00:25:12,137 he was persona non grata 464 00:25:12,928 --> 00:25:16,265 and ended up not just getting into drugs 465 00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:19,143 like LSD or marijuana that were happening at the time, 466 00:25:19,268 --> 00:25:21,187 but also heroin. 467 00:25:24,357 --> 00:25:26,233 He went through law school, 468 00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:28,237 heavily addicted. 469 00:25:28,362 --> 00:25:32,282 He passed his bar exam after a few tries, 470 00:25:32,407 --> 00:25:33,950 heavily addicted. 471 00:25:34,075 --> 00:25:35,827 I think heroin for me, 472 00:25:35,952 --> 00:25:37,662 it was self-medicating. 473 00:25:37,787 --> 00:25:40,123 I had been so restless before. 474 00:25:40,248 --> 00:25:42,333 I was probably ADHD. 475 00:25:42,458 --> 00:25:45,003 Nowadays they'd probably give me, 476 00:25:45,128 --> 00:25:48,298 put me on Adderall and stuff because I could not sit still 477 00:25:48,423 --> 00:25:51,092 and the world was moving so fast for me. 478 00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:56,138 And then heroin slowed it down and allowed me to focus 479 00:25:56,263 --> 00:25:58,350 and read and concentrate. 480 00:25:58,475 --> 00:26:02,312 I went from being really among the worst people in my class 481 00:26:02,437 --> 00:26:04,730 academically to the top of my class. 482 00:26:05,565 --> 00:26:08,277 But it works until it stops working 483 00:26:08,902 --> 00:26:10,737 and it turns on you. 484 00:26:11,738 --> 00:26:12,822 -Let's say hello to this remarkable young man. 485 00:26:12,947 --> 00:26:13,782 -Absolutely. 486 00:26:13,907 --> 00:26:15,367 -Mr. Robert Kennedy Jr. 487 00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:24,833 Be right back. 488 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,793 Come on in here. 489 00:26:25,918 --> 00:26:27,420 Who have you got there, Bobby? 490 00:26:27,545 --> 00:26:31,842 - This is an American Golden eagle. 491 00:26:31,967 --> 00:26:33,468 What do you think, Joey? 492 00:26:33,593 --> 00:26:36,262 He was functioning, 493 00:26:36,387 --> 00:26:38,013 I mean, I'm sure that he was not functioning 494 00:26:38,138 --> 00:26:40,017 at his optimal level, but he was functioning. 495 00:26:40,142 --> 00:26:42,643 He held a job and stuff like that. 496 00:26:42,768 --> 00:26:44,603 I wanted to ask you about, 497 00:26:44,728 --> 00:26:47,565 you think eventually you'll go into politics? 498 00:26:47,690 --> 00:26:49,567 -I don't know. 499 00:26:49,692 --> 00:26:51,945 That in itself is a pipe dream. 500 00:26:53,447 --> 00:26:54,572 Through Robert Morgenthal 501 00:26:54,697 --> 00:26:56,490 who'd known his father, 502 00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:58,535 Bobby got a job with the DA's office 503 00:26:58,660 --> 00:27:00,370 in New York. 504 00:27:00,495 --> 00:27:02,330 - As an attorney, what were you doing? 505 00:27:02,455 --> 00:27:05,417 -I was prosecuting criminals. 506 00:27:05,542 --> 00:27:06,625 At the same time, 507 00:27:06,752 --> 00:27:11,673 he would go up to Harlem and enter these tenements 508 00:27:11,798 --> 00:27:15,343 in really rough neighborhoods and score heroin. 509 00:27:16,177 --> 00:27:17,720 - He went to rehab about five times. 510 00:27:17,845 --> 00:27:20,390 I drove him to rehab three or four times 511 00:27:20,515 --> 00:27:25,562 and it never worked, the times I took him. 512 00:27:25,687 --> 00:27:26,730 It would work for a while 513 00:27:26,855 --> 00:27:28,857 and when he was trying to get off 514 00:27:28,982 --> 00:27:32,902 and I would try and chase the drug dealers away from him 515 00:27:33,027 --> 00:27:37,573 to keep them away from him, but eventually he relapsed. 516 00:27:37,698 --> 00:27:41,118 - At that point, I really wanted to stop. 517 00:27:41,243 --> 00:27:43,538 I was going out to Minnesota 518 00:27:44,372 --> 00:27:47,292 to a rehab and I OD'd. 519 00:27:47,417 --> 00:27:51,963 I took too much heroin and I nodded out on the airplane 520 00:27:52,088 --> 00:27:54,090 and somebody saw it and they reported me 521 00:27:54,215 --> 00:27:56,592 and then I got busted. 522 00:27:56,718 --> 00:28:00,513 And when I got off the plane, the police were waiting for me. 523 00:28:02,098 --> 00:28:04,267 It's probably the best thing that ever happened to me 524 00:28:04,392 --> 00:28:08,397 because I had such a fear that my addiction 525 00:28:08,522 --> 00:28:10,440 was going to get in the newspapers, 526 00:28:11,607 --> 00:28:15,570 but at this point everybody knew I had the problem 527 00:28:16,362 --> 00:28:19,615 so I could start talking about it 528 00:28:20,450 --> 00:28:22,952 and that was the beginning of my recovery. 529 00:28:23,953 --> 00:28:25,288 When he was sentenced, 530 00:28:25,413 --> 00:28:28,875 part of his sentence was to go to rehab. 531 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,793 He had been through rehab a number of times, 532 00:28:30,918 --> 00:28:32,545 but this was his final time 533 00:28:32,670 --> 00:28:35,965 and he suddenly had an awakening. 534 00:28:36,673 --> 00:28:38,427 - That was a real turning point for him 535 00:28:38,552 --> 00:28:42,180 and it really saved his life. 536 00:28:42,305 --> 00:28:46,142 I got sober in 1983. 537 00:28:46,267 --> 00:28:47,893 And how old were you? 538 00:28:48,018 --> 00:28:49,770 -I was 28. 539 00:28:49,895 --> 00:28:52,857 -You were still working as an attorney? 540 00:28:52,982 --> 00:28:53,817 -Yeah. 541 00:28:53,942 --> 00:28:55,067 -And what happens then 542 00:28:55,193 --> 00:28:58,947 after you go through this period of change? 543 00:28:59,072 --> 00:29:00,448 -When I got sober, I realized 544 00:29:00,573 --> 00:29:02,992 I need to be true to myself. 545 00:29:03,117 --> 00:29:04,910 I wanted to be working with nature 546 00:29:05,035 --> 00:29:07,497 and I wanted to be outside. 547 00:29:08,707 --> 00:29:12,127 I decided to work for an environmental group. 548 00:29:13,043 --> 00:29:16,005 - He started with the Natural Resources Defense Council, 549 00:29:16,130 --> 00:29:17,507 which is the leading environmental group 550 00:29:17,632 --> 00:29:18,758 in the country. 551 00:29:19,842 --> 00:29:22,720 This is how he became an environmental lawyer. 552 00:29:22,845 --> 00:29:24,722 - I took all the training that I had 553 00:29:24,847 --> 00:29:27,725 as a district attorney, as an attorney and a prosecutor, 554 00:29:27,850 --> 00:29:30,395 and started prosecuting environmental crimes 555 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,522 by taking polluters to court. 556 00:29:32,897 --> 00:29:35,650 - That also awakened something deep inside him. 557 00:29:35,775 --> 00:29:38,612 When he was an 8-year-old kid, he loved animals 558 00:29:38,737 --> 00:29:40,905 and he loved the fishes 559 00:29:41,030 --> 00:29:42,198 and all the animals in the wild, 560 00:29:42,323 --> 00:29:44,117 and all of a sudden he had a chance 561 00:29:44,242 --> 00:29:48,245 to have a career of this and that was thrilling for him. 562 00:29:49,122 --> 00:29:50,290 When I was young, 563 00:29:50,415 --> 00:29:54,460 nature to me was always something that was important. 564 00:29:55,295 --> 00:29:57,797 It was a connection that I had with my father. 565 00:29:58,673 --> 00:30:00,132 - Bobby's father used to organize 566 00:30:00,258 --> 00:30:03,970 whitewater rafting trips starting when he was very young. 567 00:30:04,095 --> 00:30:05,680 - All of these rivers in the United States 568 00:30:05,805 --> 00:30:07,057 that we've traveled down, 569 00:30:07,182 --> 00:30:09,100 I think it's a great natural resource 570 00:30:09,225 --> 00:30:12,312 that I'd like to have the children see and enjoy. 571 00:30:12,437 --> 00:30:14,563 What you like the best, Bobby? 572 00:30:14,688 --> 00:30:16,858 - I liked it when we went on the hikes 573 00:30:16,983 --> 00:30:20,110 and I caught a lot of reptiles. 574 00:30:20,237 --> 00:30:21,695 Bobby caught a rattlesnake, 575 00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:22,780 and put it in a bottle, 576 00:30:22,905 --> 00:30:23,907 which was very nice for all of us. 577 00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:30,997 - In 1966, his father had taken him 578 00:30:31,122 --> 00:30:32,915 to the Hudson River 579 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,252 and his father was appalled at what he saw. 580 00:30:36,002 --> 00:30:38,087 You couldn't eat the fish from the river. 581 00:30:38,212 --> 00:30:40,548 Commercial fishermen had all been put out of business. 582 00:30:40,673 --> 00:30:42,592 Oil spills from Exxon Mobil, 583 00:30:42,717 --> 00:30:44,760 the pollution from the General Electric Company 584 00:30:44,885 --> 00:30:46,053 and Monsanto. 585 00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:48,222 I mean, it was just terrible. 586 00:30:49,098 --> 00:30:51,977 - Well, he told me he was determined 587 00:30:52,102 --> 00:30:54,728 to clean it up. 588 00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:57,315 - Bobby ended up joining a new organization 589 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,610 called the Riverkeepers. 590 00:31:00,735 --> 00:31:02,112 - Riverkeepers was started by a group 591 00:31:02,237 --> 00:31:03,528 of commercial fishermen, 592 00:31:03,655 --> 00:31:05,532 eager to protect their environment. 593 00:31:06,073 --> 00:31:07,158 They decided long before 594 00:31:07,283 --> 00:31:09,118 the word environmentalist was coined 595 00:31:09,243 --> 00:31:10,787 that they were going to do something about 596 00:31:10,912 --> 00:31:12,497 oil spills, sewage. 597 00:31:12,622 --> 00:31:14,123 They were going to stand up and fight. 598 00:31:14,248 --> 00:31:16,292 Then the Riverkeeper asked me 599 00:31:16,417 --> 00:31:18,587 to come and work for them as their full-time attorney. 600 00:31:19,587 --> 00:31:21,965 - And Bobby was there on behalf of the NRDC 601 00:31:22,090 --> 00:31:25,802 and began to patrol the river with John Cronin. 602 00:31:26,385 --> 00:31:28,847 They became partners and they would actually, 603 00:31:28,972 --> 00:31:31,933 they'd really get out there and look for polluters 604 00:31:32,683 --> 00:31:35,270 - And I found about 24 different polluters. 605 00:31:35,395 --> 00:31:36,562 I photographed them. 606 00:31:36,687 --> 00:31:39,940 I took samples and I then brought lawsuits 607 00:31:40,065 --> 00:31:42,318 against all 24 polluters. 608 00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:46,488 Bobby Kennedy was suing 609 00:31:46,613 --> 00:31:48,365 under the Clean Water Act. 610 00:31:48,490 --> 00:31:49,742 - It's illegal to pollute the waters 611 00:31:49,867 --> 00:31:51,160 of the United States. 612 00:31:51,285 --> 00:31:53,622 You have to pay a high penalty if you do pollute. 613 00:31:53,747 --> 00:31:56,123 - And it outlawed things like dumping PCBs 614 00:31:56,248 --> 00:31:57,875 into the Hudson River. 615 00:31:58,918 --> 00:32:00,670 Soon after he joined Riverkeepers, 616 00:32:00,795 --> 00:32:03,338 he was out gathering some fish with the nets 617 00:32:03,463 --> 00:32:04,298 and I went out with him. 618 00:32:04,423 --> 00:32:06,300 We had big boots on and stuff 619 00:32:06,425 --> 00:32:08,762 and he told me we just won a $2 million judgment. 620 00:32:09,762 --> 00:32:13,767 They had sued Exxon for polluting the Hudson River. 621 00:32:13,892 --> 00:32:16,518 I realized that he was onto something big. 622 00:32:16,643 --> 00:32:19,188 - In the face of enormous industrial pressure, 623 00:32:19,313 --> 00:32:21,690 we've been able to save this river. 624 00:32:21,815 --> 00:32:24,360 We came here in 1985. 625 00:32:24,485 --> 00:32:27,780 We found it really a polluted cesspool, 626 00:32:27,905 --> 00:32:29,865 but now it seems pretty clean 627 00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:33,410 and there's a relative abundance of fish in it. 628 00:32:37,498 --> 00:32:39,833 Today, the Hudson River is 629 00:32:39,958 --> 00:32:41,585 one of the cleanest in the country 630 00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:43,503 and you can eat the fish again. 631 00:32:43,628 --> 00:32:45,965 And it was the efforts of Bobby and John Cronin 632 00:32:46,090 --> 00:32:48,677 and Riverkeeper that made that happen. 633 00:32:48,802 --> 00:32:51,970 - To travel up this magnificent river, 634 00:32:52,097 --> 00:32:54,723 such a landmark throughout the United States 635 00:32:55,475 --> 00:32:58,602 and see the amount of pollution that's taken place. 636 00:32:58,728 --> 00:33:00,688 I think that we should do something about it. 637 00:33:02,023 --> 00:33:03,648 Bobby was sober 638 00:33:03,775 --> 00:33:07,278 and really dedicated to his causes. 639 00:33:07,987 --> 00:33:10,238 This was the passion that he had. 640 00:33:11,073 --> 00:33:12,658 This was his mission in life. 641 00:33:16,995 --> 00:33:21,250 In those early years, he really was fearless. 642 00:33:21,375 --> 00:33:22,418 Do you think the Spotted Owl 643 00:33:22,543 --> 00:33:23,753 put a lot of people out of work? 644 00:33:23,878 --> 00:33:25,505 - First of all, that is an exaggeration. 645 00:33:25,630 --> 00:33:26,588 Okay, I just asked. 646 00:33:26,713 --> 00:33:27,757 - He was lionized. 647 00:33:27,882 --> 00:33:28,967 He wrote a book at the time. 648 00:33:29,092 --> 00:33:30,342 It was a big bestseller. 649 00:33:30,468 --> 00:33:32,887 - Crimes Against Nature is now out in paperback. 650 00:33:33,012 --> 00:33:35,557 It's on the bookshelves now. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 651 00:33:35,682 --> 00:33:37,015 He was changing the world 652 00:33:37,142 --> 00:33:40,478 and I think that he felt that and he was committed to that. 653 00:33:40,603 --> 00:33:42,230 And by the early 2000s, 654 00:33:42,355 --> 00:33:44,565 Bobby was the leading environmental lawyer 655 00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:46,025 in the United States. 656 00:33:46,150 --> 00:33:48,527 He was taking on Smithfield Foods 657 00:33:48,652 --> 00:33:53,742 and suing them for dumping waste from their industrial hog farms. 658 00:33:53,867 --> 00:33:55,242 There's no right to pollute. 659 00:33:55,367 --> 00:33:56,368 The polluter pays. 660 00:33:56,868 --> 00:33:59,497 This battle that we're all fighting for today, 661 00:33:59,622 --> 00:34:02,500 this is the battle against ignorance and greed. 662 00:34:02,625 --> 00:34:05,377 - 2004, he was asked at the Democratic Convention-- 663 00:34:05,503 --> 00:34:07,003 the Bush administration was in power 664 00:34:07,130 --> 00:34:08,547 and he was taking them on. 665 00:34:08,672 --> 00:34:10,550 He has put polluters in charge 666 00:34:10,675 --> 00:34:13,887 of all the regulatory agencies that are supposed to protect 667 00:34:14,012 --> 00:34:15,472 Americans from pollution. 668 00:34:15,597 --> 00:34:19,600 The second in command of EPA is a Monsanto lobbyist. 669 00:34:19,725 --> 00:34:22,103 -Time magazine called him a Hero of the Planet. 670 00:34:22,228 --> 00:34:24,272 -Please welcome Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 671 00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:29,402 - Good to see you again, Mr. Kennedy. 672 00:34:29,527 --> 00:34:32,028 - I took a lot of river trips with Bobby 673 00:34:32,155 --> 00:34:35,115 and a small river was being poisoned by 674 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:37,285 a paper mill upstream. 675 00:34:37,410 --> 00:34:39,162 All the animal life around the river 676 00:34:39,287 --> 00:34:42,123 were being poisoned by mercury, 677 00:34:42,248 --> 00:34:45,208 and I think he was very affected by that. 678 00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:48,922 - Mercury, it's a very, very dangerous chemical. 679 00:34:49,047 --> 00:34:51,548 In 17 states, it's now unsafe to eat 680 00:34:51,673 --> 00:34:53,968 any fresh water fish because of mercury. 681 00:34:54,093 --> 00:34:56,387 It's coming from coal burning power plants. 682 00:34:56,512 --> 00:34:58,347 - We are the Saudi Arabia of coal, 683 00:34:58,472 --> 00:34:59,807 are we not? 684 00:35:00,933 --> 00:35:03,143 - I think I've got a good sense of who I am 685 00:35:03,812 --> 00:35:07,523 and I'm very proud of my father, of my uncles, 686 00:35:07,648 --> 00:35:10,025 but I don't feel competitive with them. 687 00:35:10,652 --> 00:35:12,987 I love the gifts that I've been given 688 00:35:13,112 --> 00:35:16,532 and feel like I want to use those in whatever way 689 00:35:16,657 --> 00:35:17,992 that I'm supposed to, 690 00:35:18,117 --> 00:35:20,410 like my father did with his gifts. 691 00:35:20,537 --> 00:35:22,997 -Please welcome Robert F. Kennedy Jr to the program. 692 00:35:23,122 --> 00:35:25,667 Robert, nice to see you. 693 00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:28,752 -Likewise. -As we adjust our chairs... 694 00:35:28,878 --> 00:35:31,047 Normally known more for environmental causes 695 00:35:31,172 --> 00:35:34,925 and I guess to a certain extent this is apropos of that. 696 00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:38,053 Most recently you're talking about the link between autism 697 00:35:38,178 --> 00:35:40,515 and vaccinations. 698 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,723 Pretty controversial. 699 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,060 Back in the early 2000s, 700 00:35:44,185 --> 00:35:46,937 Bobby was giving talks all over the country, 701 00:35:47,062 --> 00:35:49,148 like 200 talks a year, just about. 702 00:35:49,273 --> 00:35:52,610 And he began to find that there were all these women 703 00:35:52,735 --> 00:35:55,613 showing up at his talks sitting in the front row, 704 00:35:55,738 --> 00:35:58,782 and some of them began coming up to him afterwards and saying, 705 00:35:59,658 --> 00:36:01,035 "What you're saying about mercury 706 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,620 "from coal burning power plants is true 707 00:36:03,745 --> 00:36:05,163 "and it's all well and good, but... 708 00:36:05,790 --> 00:36:07,417 "somebody has got to look into the fact 709 00:36:07,542 --> 00:36:10,377 "that mercury in childhood vaccines 710 00:36:10,502 --> 00:36:12,755 "in a preservative called Thimerosal 711 00:36:13,297 --> 00:36:17,468 "is causing neurocognitive deficiencies in our kids, 712 00:36:17,593 --> 00:36:20,387 including an outbreak of autism." 713 00:36:21,222 --> 00:36:23,432 Bobby wanted nothing to do with this, 714 00:36:23,557 --> 00:36:24,433 but they kept coming up to him. 715 00:36:24,558 --> 00:36:27,228 And finally there was a woman named Sarah Bridges 716 00:36:27,353 --> 00:36:29,272 whose son had autism. 717 00:36:29,855 --> 00:36:35,110 So she came to Hyannis with a big box of evidence. 718 00:36:35,737 --> 00:36:37,780 -Brought a banker's box. 719 00:36:37,905 --> 00:36:40,490 I gave him an impassioned one minute-- 720 00:36:40,617 --> 00:36:42,327 I thought it was really compelling, 721 00:36:42,452 --> 00:36:43,410 what happened to my son. 722 00:36:43,535 --> 00:36:46,038 How he was a totally normal four month old 723 00:36:46,163 --> 00:36:47,582 who received nine vaccines 724 00:36:47,707 --> 00:36:49,500 and he had a two hour seizure. 725 00:36:49,625 --> 00:36:51,877 The ER doctor pulled me aside and said, 726 00:36:52,002 --> 00:36:54,255 "You've had a classic vaccine reaction" 727 00:36:54,380 --> 00:36:57,967 and acknowledged that he had been brain damaged by his vaccines. 728 00:36:58,092 --> 00:37:01,053 And Bobby looked at me and said, "I'm not interested." 729 00:37:01,803 --> 00:37:05,265 And I said, "Would you just read some of these articles?" 730 00:37:05,767 --> 00:37:08,685 And he said, "I will read a few." 731 00:37:08,810 --> 00:37:09,853 And unbeknownst to me, 732 00:37:09,978 --> 00:37:12,940 he sat up and read the majority of them that night. 733 00:37:13,065 --> 00:37:15,735 He said, "Something's wrong here." 734 00:37:15,860 --> 00:37:18,445 "I'm going to get involved in this. I'm in." 735 00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:21,240 - In the beginning, he didn't want to do it, 736 00:37:21,365 --> 00:37:24,327 but nobody was willing to take this on. 737 00:37:24,452 --> 00:37:26,537 Who else was gonna do it? 738 00:37:26,662 --> 00:37:30,457 -Between 1989 and 2003, 739 00:37:30,582 --> 00:37:33,752 almost all of our vaccinations included a material 740 00:37:33,877 --> 00:37:35,003 called Thimerosal, 741 00:37:35,128 --> 00:37:37,005 which breaks down to form mercury. 742 00:37:37,130 --> 00:37:37,965 It was a preservative, 743 00:37:38,090 --> 00:37:41,135 it was unnecessary to add to the vaccines. 744 00:37:41,260 --> 00:37:44,555 And we saw during that period a dramatic increase 745 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,265 in neurological disorders among American children 746 00:37:47,392 --> 00:37:51,728 speech delay, language delay, Dyslexia, and autism. 747 00:37:52,187 --> 00:37:55,817 - When he was born, my son was very alert. 748 00:37:55,942 --> 00:37:57,985 He was born with a head full of hair 749 00:37:58,110 --> 00:38:02,532 and then my son had been vaccinated for hepatitis B. 750 00:38:02,657 --> 00:38:04,658 His hair fell out. 751 00:38:04,783 --> 00:38:07,578 He was just not as alert. 752 00:38:07,703 --> 00:38:10,622 I was trying to read everything I could get my hands on 753 00:38:10,748 --> 00:38:13,625 to find out what happened to my son. 754 00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:16,212 And there was a young lady in the hospital 755 00:38:16,337 --> 00:38:21,342 who had given me a pamphlet on what the vaccines might contain 756 00:38:21,467 --> 00:38:23,802 and the mercury just stood out. 757 00:38:23,927 --> 00:38:25,763 -When we had our meeting with CDC 758 00:38:25,888 --> 00:38:27,473 and we shared all of our concerns, 759 00:38:27,598 --> 00:38:30,267 they sat and listened patiently 760 00:38:30,392 --> 00:38:31,227 and then at the end of the meeting, 761 00:38:31,352 --> 00:38:33,270 they handed us this one page paper 762 00:38:33,395 --> 00:38:35,690 saying that they had looked at this already 763 00:38:35,815 --> 00:38:37,400 and they found no evidence of harm. 764 00:38:37,525 --> 00:38:38,525 Everything was fine. 765 00:38:39,068 --> 00:38:42,655 So we decided to file FOIA documents 766 00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:45,407 to get all of the records not only from CDC 767 00:38:45,532 --> 00:38:47,827 but also from FDA at the time. 768 00:38:48,327 --> 00:38:49,953 And it took a while to get those, 769 00:38:50,078 --> 00:38:52,373 but when we did get them 770 00:38:52,832 --> 00:38:54,792 it was obvious going through those records, 771 00:38:54,917 --> 00:38:57,168 along with all their internal emails, 772 00:38:57,293 --> 00:38:59,422 that Mercury is incredibly toxic. 773 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,757 And they were very concerned 774 00:39:01,882 --> 00:39:04,635 and they had actually found statistically significant 775 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,762 associations between exposure 776 00:39:06,887 --> 00:39:09,432 to Thimerosal and ADD, ADHD, 777 00:39:09,557 --> 00:39:12,435 speech and language delays and also autism. 778 00:39:13,268 --> 00:39:14,437 What I've been saying is 779 00:39:14,562 --> 00:39:16,522 people are going to be frightened about vaccines 780 00:39:16,647 --> 00:39:19,233 if they don't trust the federal regulators 781 00:39:19,358 --> 00:39:20,777 to be honest with the American people. 782 00:39:20,902 --> 00:39:22,487 There was one arm of the FDA 783 00:39:22,612 --> 00:39:24,738 that dealt with over the counter products 784 00:39:24,863 --> 00:39:26,740 and they had done all these investigations 785 00:39:26,865 --> 00:39:27,825 back in the eighties 786 00:39:27,950 --> 00:39:31,662 and found out that Thimerosal used in contact lens drops 787 00:39:31,787 --> 00:39:35,373 and over the counter products actually wasn't safe. 788 00:39:35,498 --> 00:39:38,210 And so, they had made a recommendation 789 00:39:38,335 --> 00:39:41,047 that it be removed from over the counter products, 790 00:39:42,088 --> 00:39:43,548 but CBER, 791 00:39:43,673 --> 00:39:46,260 the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, 792 00:39:46,385 --> 00:39:48,762 which is the ones who oversee vaccines, 793 00:39:48,887 --> 00:39:50,013 they left it in. 794 00:39:50,138 --> 00:39:52,223 So how can you have one arm of an agency 795 00:39:52,348 --> 00:39:56,062 saying Thimerosal is toxic and we shouldn't be using it, 796 00:39:56,187 --> 00:40:00,482 and another arm of the agency injecting it into our children? 797 00:40:00,607 --> 00:40:03,610 - And this convinced Bobby that the agency, again, 798 00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:05,737 that was supposed to be protecting people, 799 00:40:05,863 --> 00:40:09,533 was in league with these pharmaceutical companies. 800 00:40:09,658 --> 00:40:12,202 So it became a big part of what he began 801 00:40:12,327 --> 00:40:14,037 to speak about publicly. 802 00:40:14,163 --> 00:40:16,582 - If these vaccine makers are allowing 803 00:40:16,707 --> 00:40:19,127 a certain compound into these vaccinations 804 00:40:19,252 --> 00:40:21,628 that's causing autism and they now know it, 805 00:40:22,463 --> 00:40:24,005 why are they fighting so hard? 806 00:40:24,132 --> 00:40:25,883 -Well, how many of us would want to admit 807 00:40:26,008 --> 00:40:27,635 that a decision we made had poisoned 808 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,928 a whole generation of American children? 809 00:40:30,387 --> 00:40:32,973 - Now Thimerosal was taken out of vaccines 810 00:40:33,098 --> 00:40:35,392 after this outcry began. 811 00:40:35,517 --> 00:40:36,893 - I appreciate you getting the word out. 812 00:40:37,018 --> 00:40:40,313 And I know parents of kids with autism truly appreciate it 813 00:40:40,438 --> 00:40:41,607 and I know that it's a very difficult thing for them 814 00:40:41,732 --> 00:40:44,402 to be dealing with, so I'm sure they appreciate the help. 815 00:40:45,485 --> 00:40:47,655 - The NRDC was not happy 816 00:40:47,780 --> 00:40:50,532 with his taking on this vaccine issue, 817 00:40:50,657 --> 00:40:53,077 nor was these various groups that he had worked with 818 00:40:53,202 --> 00:40:54,703 for many, many years 819 00:40:54,828 --> 00:40:57,455 and people began to urge him to get away from this issue 820 00:40:57,582 --> 00:40:59,250 and he refused to do it. 821 00:40:59,375 --> 00:41:03,753 So he wrote a big article for Salon and Rolling Stone. 822 00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:07,592 What Bobby discovered was back in 1986, 823 00:41:07,717 --> 00:41:10,385 during the Reagan years, the vaccine manufacturers 824 00:41:10,510 --> 00:41:14,348 were granted no liability from prosecution. 825 00:41:14,473 --> 00:41:15,765 Pharma went to Congress 826 00:41:15,892 --> 00:41:19,687 and worked out a deal where there would be a fund set up, 827 00:41:19,812 --> 00:41:24,358 the vaccine injury fund, that pharma pays no money into. 828 00:41:24,483 --> 00:41:27,152 So the government, they're handing out these 829 00:41:27,277 --> 00:41:30,907 multimillion dollar awards to children damaged by vaccines, 830 00:41:31,032 --> 00:41:34,202 but simultaneously saying they are unequivocally safe. 831 00:41:35,202 --> 00:41:36,912 - There was a turning point 832 00:41:37,037 --> 00:41:39,832 where Bobby Jr. and Sarah Bridges 833 00:41:39,957 --> 00:41:41,333 went to a meeting at the New York Times 834 00:41:41,458 --> 00:41:44,420 to try to get the New York Times into the vaccine issue. 835 00:41:44,545 --> 00:41:46,880 - The main editor said, can't do it. 836 00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:49,342 Not, you're wrong. 837 00:41:49,467 --> 00:41:51,510 Not, let's look more deeply into this. 838 00:41:51,635 --> 00:41:53,178 Said, "Can't do it." 839 00:41:53,303 --> 00:41:55,932 "Big pharma is our biggest donor." 840 00:41:57,182 --> 00:41:58,683 And that was the end of that. 841 00:41:59,518 --> 00:42:01,937 - Suddenly he couldn't write op-eds anymore 842 00:42:02,395 --> 00:42:04,063 and he couldn't even eventually get a letter 843 00:42:04,188 --> 00:42:05,648 to the editor published 844 00:42:06,233 --> 00:42:07,568 after writing op-eds 845 00:42:07,693 --> 00:42:10,403 about environmental issues for the New York Times 846 00:42:10,528 --> 00:42:12,280 and many, many places for years, 847 00:42:12,405 --> 00:42:14,783 being declared a Hero of the Planet. 848 00:42:14,908 --> 00:42:19,078 And then in 2011, Salon retracted the article 849 00:42:19,203 --> 00:42:21,915 that he had written back, some years before. 850 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,293 - Suddenly the New York Times would be like, 851 00:42:25,418 --> 00:42:28,172 these are crazy people. 852 00:42:28,297 --> 00:42:31,300 And that's when the label of anti-vaxxer 853 00:42:31,425 --> 00:42:34,010 and conspiracy theorists came about. 854 00:42:34,845 --> 00:42:39,392 - And what Bobby's about is making vaccines safe. 855 00:42:39,517 --> 00:42:42,227 And it's not about not having the vaccines. 856 00:42:42,352 --> 00:42:47,107 That's a part of a conversation that always gets pushed aside. 857 00:42:47,232 --> 00:42:48,442 -It's pretty stunning to see 858 00:42:48,567 --> 00:42:51,445 how quickly Bobby moved from person of the year 859 00:42:51,570 --> 00:42:54,155 on environmental issues, such a thought leader, 860 00:42:54,282 --> 00:42:55,865 to a total pariah. 861 00:42:57,075 --> 00:43:00,328 - It was the beginning of a very painful period. 862 00:43:07,962 --> 00:43:09,253 - Just haven't decided what I'm going to do 863 00:43:09,380 --> 00:43:10,088 in the future. 864 00:43:13,258 --> 00:43:14,635 Well, I just don't know what I'm going to do 865 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,595 and I just have to leave it like that. 866 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:18,513 I just don't know what I'll do. 867 00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:25,145 Oh, well, I might like to be associated with a university. 868 00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:34,363 Teaching, maybe, going to school perhaps. 869 00:43:34,488 --> 00:43:35,363 I don’t know. 870 00:43:37,658 --> 00:43:39,493 After his brother's murder, 871 00:43:39,618 --> 00:43:43,497 Bobby Kennedy's prone to great bouts of depression. 872 00:43:44,122 --> 00:43:46,917 I think Bobby was suicidally depressed. 873 00:43:47,710 --> 00:43:51,713 And during this dark time, he's asked again and again, 874 00:43:51,838 --> 00:43:56,010 did Lee Harvey Oswald really kill your brother on his own? 875 00:43:56,927 --> 00:43:59,347 Do you believe in the lone gunman theory? 876 00:44:00,305 --> 00:44:03,225 And this has to be painful for Bobby Kennedy 877 00:44:03,350 --> 00:44:07,020 because he alone knows that he's probably the only one 878 00:44:07,145 --> 00:44:09,648 who can get to the bottom of what really happened 879 00:44:09,773 --> 00:44:10,898 to his brother. 880 00:44:12,860 --> 00:44:14,528 - Something has happened in the motorcade route. 881 00:44:14,653 --> 00:44:15,862 Standby please. 882 00:44:18,407 --> 00:44:21,160 - Bobby Kennedy got a call from J. Edgar Hoover, 883 00:44:21,285 --> 00:44:24,455 the head of the FBI, who coldly informed him 884 00:44:24,580 --> 00:44:26,248 that your brother's been killed. 885 00:44:28,375 --> 00:44:29,333 That was it. 886 00:44:29,460 --> 00:44:30,502 Hoover hung up the phone. 887 00:44:31,420 --> 00:44:32,587 Immediately, Bobby Kennedy 888 00:44:32,713 --> 00:44:34,130 realizes two things. 889 00:44:34,673 --> 00:44:37,383 The man that he's deeply devoted to, 890 00:44:37,508 --> 00:44:41,472 his brother who he loves dearly, is now dead. 891 00:44:42,055 --> 00:44:44,892 And number two, whatever authority he has 892 00:44:45,017 --> 00:44:48,437 as Attorney General is now disappearing by the minute. 893 00:44:49,062 --> 00:44:51,190 He has only hours maybe 894 00:44:51,315 --> 00:44:53,442 to get to the bottom of the crime. 895 00:44:53,567 --> 00:44:54,610 Did you shoot the president? 896 00:44:54,735 --> 00:44:56,487 -I didn't shoot anybody. No sir. 897 00:44:57,487 --> 00:44:58,988 I'm just a patsy! 898 00:45:00,157 --> 00:45:01,908 He immediately suspected 899 00:45:02,033 --> 00:45:04,327 there was not a lone gunman 900 00:45:04,453 --> 00:45:06,247 because the people there that day, 901 00:45:06,372 --> 00:45:09,417 his closest aids who were World War II veterans, 902 00:45:09,542 --> 00:45:10,792 knew the sound of gunfire 903 00:45:10,917 --> 00:45:14,128 and told him we were riding into an ambush. 904 00:45:14,253 --> 00:45:15,547 It was a crossfire. 905 00:45:16,215 --> 00:45:18,800 So where did he look in trying to figure out 906 00:45:18,925 --> 00:45:21,220 what had happened to his brother? 907 00:45:21,345 --> 00:45:23,888 His first call was to the CIA 908 00:45:24,013 --> 00:45:25,973 and said, "Did you guys kill my brother?" 909 00:45:26,850 --> 00:45:30,562 Bobby was worried that they had pushed the CIA really hard 910 00:45:30,687 --> 00:45:34,525 on not invading Cuba after the Cuban Missile Crisis. 911 00:45:34,650 --> 00:45:36,110 And that had been the response. 912 00:45:36,235 --> 00:45:38,237 - Report that the president was hit in the head. 913 00:45:38,362 --> 00:45:40,280 Bobby Kennedy also suspected 914 00:45:40,405 --> 00:45:43,992 that the right wing anti-Castro exiles were involved somehow. 915 00:45:44,117 --> 00:45:45,827 Exiles who were embittered 916 00:45:45,952 --> 00:45:48,788 by what had happened with JFK during the Bay of Pigs 917 00:45:48,913 --> 00:45:51,458 and then coming to an accommodation with Castro 918 00:45:51,583 --> 00:45:53,585 during the Cuban Missile Crisis. 919 00:45:53,710 --> 00:45:56,213 - And who was the third party that he suspected 920 00:45:56,338 --> 00:45:58,673 in the assassination of his brother? 921 00:45:58,798 --> 00:46:00,592 - There is Leo. 922 00:46:02,010 --> 00:46:03,053 He's been shot. 923 00:46:03,178 --> 00:46:04,972 Lee Oswald has been shot. 924 00:46:05,097 --> 00:46:06,640 There's a man with a gun. 925 00:46:06,765 --> 00:46:07,892 -I was standing in the White House 926 00:46:08,017 --> 00:46:08,933 in the East Room 927 00:46:09,058 --> 00:46:12,145 and we were standing next to my uncle's casket. 928 00:46:12,270 --> 00:46:16,775 Lyndon Johnson came in and told my father and Jackie 929 00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:19,653 and my mother who were standing there with me 930 00:46:19,778 --> 00:46:24,783 that a man named Jack Ruby just killed Lee Harvey Oswald. 931 00:46:25,950 --> 00:46:28,495 And after they absorbed that information, 932 00:46:28,620 --> 00:46:31,248 I said to my mom, why did he do that? 933 00:46:31,373 --> 00:46:34,375 Did he do it because he loved our family? 934 00:46:35,210 --> 00:46:39,130 And so I think anybody who saw what happened with Jack Ruby 935 00:46:39,255 --> 00:46:40,507 would have that same question. 936 00:46:40,632 --> 00:46:44,093 Why did he do it in a police station wide open 937 00:46:44,218 --> 00:46:45,720 when he was bound to be caught? 938 00:46:46,805 --> 00:46:49,182 And of course he didn't have a love for our family. 939 00:46:49,307 --> 00:46:50,850 He had the opposite. 940 00:46:51,893 --> 00:46:53,645 - Who's Jack Ruby? 941 00:46:53,770 --> 00:46:56,857 Bobby Kennedy puts people on this right away 942 00:46:56,982 --> 00:46:58,900 and they report back to him within hours. 943 00:46:59,025 --> 00:47:00,318 Jack Ruby is mobbed up. 944 00:47:00,443 --> 00:47:02,070 He's a mob errand boy. 945 00:47:02,778 --> 00:47:04,823 And Jack Ruby's phone records 946 00:47:04,948 --> 00:47:10,120 on the month before the murder were many, many calls 947 00:47:10,245 --> 00:47:13,332 almost entirely to people that my dad had indicted. 948 00:47:13,457 --> 00:47:16,000 -I thought only little girls giggled Mr. Giancana. 949 00:47:17,377 --> 00:47:20,963 - So Bobby Kennedy suspected the CIA. 950 00:47:21,088 --> 00:47:23,300 He knew the mob was involved somehow 951 00:47:23,425 --> 00:47:26,010 and of course in the Cuban exile underground, 952 00:47:26,135 --> 00:47:28,638 all three of which were working closely together, 953 00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:32,893 they were working together to kill a Fidel Castro in Cuba. 954 00:47:33,018 --> 00:47:35,603 And of course Bobby Kennedy came to the conclusion 955 00:47:36,020 --> 00:47:38,898 they turned their guns on his brother. 956 00:47:51,953 --> 00:47:54,497 He has a lot of guilt about the assassination. 957 00:47:55,373 --> 00:47:58,002 He thinks he should have protected his brother. 958 00:47:59,210 --> 00:48:02,088 He thinks he should have seen this plot coming. 959 00:48:03,382 --> 00:48:06,468 The family all convened at the White House 960 00:48:06,593 --> 00:48:08,053 preparing for the funeral 961 00:48:08,178 --> 00:48:12,348 and Bobby had said to the family that day in confidence 962 00:48:12,848 --> 00:48:15,685 we know Jack was killed by a conspiracy. 963 00:48:16,395 --> 00:48:19,690 We know there were very powerful forces. 964 00:48:20,148 --> 00:48:23,443 It was a domestic political conspiracy, 965 00:48:23,568 --> 00:48:25,737 but we can't do anything. 966 00:48:25,862 --> 00:48:29,950 My plan is to run for public office 967 00:48:30,075 --> 00:48:32,493 and eventually get back to the White House 968 00:48:32,618 --> 00:48:34,203 and then I'll have the authority 969 00:48:34,328 --> 00:48:36,290 to get to the bottom of the crime. 970 00:48:37,665 --> 00:48:40,418 But imagine how difficult that path was for him. 971 00:48:41,127 --> 00:48:42,753 He knew that was years away, 972 00:48:43,422 --> 00:48:46,550 but he knew he had to be patient and bide his time 973 00:48:46,675 --> 00:48:49,845 until he could bring official resources 974 00:48:49,970 --> 00:48:51,597 to the investigation. 975 00:48:56,017 --> 00:48:59,353 - Who actually fired the shots that killed Kennedy? 976 00:48:59,478 --> 00:49:01,022 Was there a conspiracy? 977 00:49:01,523 --> 00:49:03,192 The new president, Lyndon Johnson 978 00:49:03,317 --> 00:49:05,693 ordered these questions answered. 979 00:49:05,818 --> 00:49:07,778 - Here you have this blue ribbon commission 980 00:49:07,903 --> 00:49:10,365 that's supposed to independently get to the bottom 981 00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:12,242 of what really happened in Dallas 982 00:49:12,367 --> 00:49:14,745 and right away, it's compromised. 983 00:49:15,412 --> 00:49:16,413 - Basically the Warren Commission 984 00:49:16,538 --> 00:49:20,083 was run by Allen Dulles of the CIA. 985 00:49:20,208 --> 00:49:23,295 Dulles was still very angry 986 00:49:23,420 --> 00:49:26,840 and bitter about his firing by President Kennedy. 987 00:49:26,965 --> 00:49:29,050 -Fired by Kennedy, he becomes the most influential 988 00:49:29,175 --> 00:49:30,218 member of the Warren Commission 989 00:49:30,343 --> 00:49:32,262 investigating what happened to Kennedy. 990 00:49:33,013 --> 00:49:35,807 -The Warren Commission makes these major findings. 991 00:49:35,932 --> 00:49:38,810 Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated President Kennedy. 992 00:49:38,935 --> 00:49:40,187 He did it alone. 993 00:49:40,312 --> 00:49:41,980 - There is no credible evidence 994 00:49:42,105 --> 00:49:44,817 that Lee Harvey Oswald was part of a conspiracy 995 00:49:44,942 --> 00:49:47,360 to assassinate President Kennedy. 996 00:49:47,485 --> 00:49:50,697 - And Bobby Kennedy knew if he said, 997 00:49:50,822 --> 00:49:53,700 I suspect the story is bigger than that, 998 00:49:53,825 --> 00:49:57,745 that powerful forces did it, all hell would break loose. 999 00:49:58,288 --> 00:50:01,248 And he knew it would actually be traumatic for the country. 1000 00:50:01,792 --> 00:50:04,627 - It would have impeded his capacity 1001 00:50:04,753 --> 00:50:06,880 to participate in public life. 1002 00:50:07,005 --> 00:50:11,300 So you really, he didn't want to pick that fight 1003 00:50:11,427 --> 00:50:13,595 and he stayed silent about it. 1004 00:50:24,815 --> 00:50:27,442 - Can you tell us a few memories of Jack? 1005 00:50:28,152 --> 00:50:29,820 Was he warm with you? 1006 00:50:35,117 --> 00:50:36,993 - My Uncle Jack was part of my life 1007 00:50:37,118 --> 00:50:38,537 from when I was born. 1008 00:50:39,830 --> 00:50:41,748 He knew how to talk to children. 1009 00:50:41,873 --> 00:50:43,583 He was wonderful with children. 1010 00:50:44,250 --> 00:50:46,377 But for example, I sat next to him 1011 00:50:46,503 --> 00:50:50,465 on the way back from the convention in 1960. 1012 00:50:51,215 --> 00:50:54,135 I sat in the seat next to him on the airplane 1013 00:50:54,260 --> 00:50:55,428 and he talked to me the whole time 1014 00:50:55,553 --> 00:50:58,140 and he had a lot of other things to do at that point. 1015 00:50:58,807 --> 00:51:00,558 - Well, I think really he made 1016 00:51:00,683 --> 00:51:02,393 Americans feel young again. 1017 00:51:04,062 --> 00:51:07,523 I think that he gave all of us more confidence in the country 1018 00:51:08,275 --> 00:51:12,195 and that we were dedicated to certain principles and ideals 1019 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,530 and that we would live up to them 1020 00:51:13,655 --> 00:51:17,283 and if necessary fight for them. 1021 00:51:18,743 --> 00:51:20,495 In the course of this, 1022 00:51:20,620 --> 00:51:23,665 Bobby is still trying to come to terms with 1023 00:51:23,790 --> 00:51:25,417 what do I do now? 1024 00:51:25,542 --> 00:51:27,543 What was I going to do with my life? 1025 00:51:28,337 --> 00:51:30,838 - Well, I've thought some of my future 1026 00:51:30,963 --> 00:51:32,298 over the period of the last few months 1027 00:51:32,423 --> 00:51:34,008 and some people from New York and elsewhere 1028 00:51:34,133 --> 00:51:35,843 have spoken to me about running in New York 1029 00:51:36,512 --> 00:51:39,555 and it's possibility that I'm considering 1030 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,435 as I'm considering many other possibilities. 1031 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,187 - Bobby Kennedy then stepped down 1032 00:51:45,312 --> 00:51:47,272 as Attorney General of the United States 1033 00:51:47,397 --> 00:51:50,150 and ended up running for the Senate in New York. 1034 00:51:50,275 --> 00:51:52,860 - In 1963, the people in the Plattsburgh area 1035 00:51:52,985 --> 00:51:56,865 paid $12 million in taxes for schools. 1036 00:51:58,115 --> 00:52:02,287 If my opponent had his way, your area would've lost... 1037 00:52:02,412 --> 00:52:03,830 I stumbled on it. 1038 00:52:03,955 --> 00:52:07,083 If my opponent had his way, stop it. 1039 00:52:08,210 --> 00:52:10,628 Go ahead. Tell me. 1040 00:52:10,753 --> 00:52:13,215 I need your help and support in November. 1041 00:52:19,470 --> 00:52:22,640 - He appreciates this tremendous reception, 1042 00:52:23,057 --> 00:52:24,683 but he has a message to give to you 1043 00:52:24,808 --> 00:52:26,268 and the American people. 1044 00:52:27,312 --> 00:52:33,150 - Chairman McCormick, I accept your nomination. 1045 00:52:37,322 --> 00:52:40,908 But the gladness of this high occasion 1046 00:52:41,033 --> 00:52:46,288 cannot mask the sorrow which shares our heart. 1047 00:52:47,540 --> 00:52:53,380 So let us keep burning the golden torch of promise, 1048 00:52:53,505 --> 00:52:57,217 which John Fitzgerald Kennedy set aflame. 1049 00:53:02,763 --> 00:53:06,392 Let us tomorrow turn to our new path. 1050 00:53:06,517 --> 00:53:08,603 Let us be on our way! 1051 00:53:18,405 --> 00:53:21,950 - And now it is my privilege and honor 1052 00:53:22,075 --> 00:53:24,618 to introduce Robert Kennedy. 1053 00:53:58,110 --> 00:54:00,947 Mister Chairman. 1054 00:54:14,335 --> 00:54:15,712 Mister Chairman. 1055 00:54:28,015 --> 00:54:31,143 - I request the delegates 1056 00:54:32,228 --> 00:54:35,732 to be seated 1057 00:54:56,712 --> 00:54:59,713 - My father was shattered after Jack's death. 1058 00:55:01,423 --> 00:55:03,552 And at that convention, 1059 00:55:03,677 --> 00:55:08,305 my father got this extraordinary outpouring of love 1060 00:55:09,223 --> 00:55:10,600 and he cried. 1061 00:55:12,477 --> 00:55:15,480 One of the few times anybody had ever seen him cry. 1062 00:55:18,358 --> 00:55:21,737 And he realized that, okay, maybe I have a future. 1063 00:55:23,572 --> 00:55:26,573 - We want Bobby! We want Bobby! 1064 00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:28,785 -President Kennedy said that we have the capacity 1065 00:55:28,910 --> 00:55:31,705 to make this the best generation in the history of mankind 1066 00:55:31,830 --> 00:55:32,872 or make it the last. 1067 00:55:32,997 --> 00:55:34,457 I think we can make it the best generation 1068 00:55:34,582 --> 00:55:35,667 in the history of mankind. 1069 00:55:35,792 --> 00:55:36,960 I think all of us joined together 1070 00:55:37,085 --> 00:55:38,002 can make that difference. 1071 00:55:41,672 --> 00:55:43,633 - He fights through the depression. 1072 00:55:44,258 --> 00:55:45,802 Am I a senator now? 1073 00:55:45,927 --> 00:55:47,470 - You will be. 1074 00:55:47,595 --> 00:55:49,805 I expect that, but... 1075 00:55:49,930 --> 00:55:53,393 - Reading poets and ancient Greeks 1076 00:55:53,518 --> 00:55:57,938 who give him kind of more perspective on life 1077 00:55:58,063 --> 00:56:00,108 and history and tragedy. 1078 00:56:01,442 --> 00:56:03,027 Parts of the Greek myths, 1079 00:56:03,152 --> 00:56:05,530 the flawed hero who gets meaning from life 1080 00:56:05,655 --> 00:56:08,825 by acting heroically even if everything fails 1081 00:56:10,493 --> 00:56:11,787 and the plays of Shakespeare. 1082 00:56:11,912 --> 00:56:13,872 And he began reading all of these 1083 00:56:13,997 --> 00:56:17,292 and incorporating them into his own cosmology. 1084 00:56:17,417 --> 00:56:19,627 And Senator Bobby Kennedy, 1085 00:56:19,752 --> 00:56:22,797 he also had a spiritual awakening. 1086 00:56:23,673 --> 00:56:27,427 - Bobby Kennedy became a truly compassionate individual 1087 00:56:28,302 --> 00:56:33,517 and that set him apart from other people running for office 1088 00:56:33,642 --> 00:56:36,853 and from the way he had been perceived when he was younger. 1089 00:56:36,978 --> 00:56:40,148 And it was true, he was a pretty ruthless guy. 1090 00:56:40,273 --> 00:56:41,273 That was no longer true 1091 00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:43,652 and he was a fighter for the people. 1092 00:56:43,777 --> 00:56:45,278 - I desperately needed that we raise 1093 00:56:45,403 --> 00:56:48,072 the minimum wage to $1.50 an hour here in the state. 1094 00:56:48,197 --> 00:56:50,575 To focus attention on the poisonous fumes 1095 00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:52,827 inflicted on the people who live in this area. 1096 00:56:52,952 --> 00:56:55,288 We've been discussing federal legislation governing rifles, 1097 00:56:55,413 --> 00:56:58,500 shotguns and hand guns, aftercare program 1098 00:56:58,625 --> 00:56:59,958 for narcotics addicts. 1099 00:57:00,083 --> 00:57:03,337 The average Indian income is $1,500, 1100 00:57:03,463 --> 00:57:06,132 75% below the national average. 1101 00:57:06,715 --> 00:57:08,383 We don't think that it's acceptable, 1102 00:57:08,510 --> 00:57:09,385 as I've said before, 1103 00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:11,762 with the gross national product that this country has, 1104 00:57:11,888 --> 00:57:14,015 with the great amount of wealth that this country has, 1105 00:57:14,140 --> 00:57:15,892 that we still have people who can't find jobs. 1106 00:57:16,017 --> 00:57:18,478 We still have children who don't have enough to eat 1107 00:57:18,603 --> 00:57:20,230 and don't have clothes to wear. 1108 00:57:21,272 --> 00:57:23,525 - The attribute he most admired in someone was 1109 00:57:23,650 --> 00:57:25,193 if they had moral courage, 1110 00:57:25,318 --> 00:57:28,195 if they were willing to stand on their ideals 1111 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,282 against all odds sometimes. 1112 00:57:30,407 --> 00:57:31,698 - And he decided, 1113 00:57:31,825 --> 00:57:33,450 that he would buck the Democratic party, 1114 00:57:33,577 --> 00:57:35,620 the Democratic establishment 1115 00:57:35,745 --> 00:57:37,747 and the military industrial complex. 1116 00:57:37,872 --> 00:57:41,918 We had, we'd been waging this stupid war for so long 1117 00:57:42,043 --> 00:57:44,837 and 50,000 Americans died 1118 00:57:46,965 --> 00:57:48,883 and he didn't care what happened to him. 1119 00:58:08,653 --> 00:58:12,657 -A Southeast Asia dominated by communist power 1120 00:58:12,782 --> 00:58:18,622 would bring a third world war much closer to terrible reality. 1121 00:58:23,918 --> 00:58:26,378 Since I reported to you last January, 1122 00:58:26,503 --> 00:58:30,508 the enemy has been defeated in battle after battle. 1123 00:58:33,177 --> 00:58:35,930 - At this point in the Democratic party, 1124 00:58:36,597 --> 00:58:40,268 it was wrong to speak out against the Vietnam War. 1125 00:58:40,977 --> 00:58:43,145 - The war in Vietnam has escalated 1126 00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:44,605 at a fantastic rate. 1127 00:58:44,730 --> 00:58:48,317 - Do you see any immediate solution? 1128 00:58:48,902 --> 00:58:51,403 - There will be some who will become frustrated 1129 00:58:51,528 --> 00:58:54,448 and bothered and break ranks under the strain 1130 00:58:54,948 --> 00:58:56,742 and some will turn on their leaders 1131 00:58:56,867 --> 00:59:00,078 and on their country and on our own fighting men. 1132 00:59:00,203 --> 00:59:01,872 -Would you be inclined to oppose 1133 00:59:01,998 --> 00:59:03,540 further escalation of the war? 1134 00:59:04,167 --> 00:59:05,960 - I think first that we should make this major 1135 00:59:06,085 --> 00:59:08,630 kind of effort to find a peaceful solution, 1136 00:59:08,755 --> 00:59:09,922 and I think that's vital 1137 00:59:10,047 --> 00:59:11,090 no matter what the turn of events 1138 00:59:11,215 --> 00:59:12,842 might be in the next few months. 1139 00:59:16,137 --> 00:59:17,805 - The holiday was Tet-- 1140 00:59:17,930 --> 00:59:19,057 the Lunar New Year. 1141 00:59:19,557 --> 00:59:22,352 The enemy, very deceitfully 1142 00:59:22,477 --> 00:59:25,438 has taken advantage of the Tet truce. 1143 00:59:25,563 --> 00:59:26,605 The Viet Kong had chosen 1144 00:59:26,730 --> 00:59:28,775 a number of strategic targets, 1145 00:59:28,900 --> 00:59:31,527 a suicide attack in the American Embassy. 1146 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,488 The Tet Offensive in 1968 1147 00:59:34,613 --> 00:59:36,407 showed that we were not winning this war 1148 00:59:36,532 --> 00:59:39,535 as we'd been assured by the powers that be in Washington. 1149 00:59:40,745 --> 00:59:44,415 It was an awakening, especially for Bobby. 1150 00:59:44,707 --> 00:59:48,127 - There is no real dialogue about Vietnam. 1151 00:59:48,252 --> 00:59:51,088 We frequently won't let those who disagree with us speak. 1152 00:59:51,965 --> 00:59:54,175 I think it's a very, very bad mistake. 1153 00:59:54,717 --> 00:59:57,928 The whole country suffers and our society suffers. 1154 00:59:58,262 --> 00:59:59,805 - After the Tet Offensive, 1155 00:59:59,930 --> 01:00:02,808 the establishment was still behind Johnson 1156 01:00:02,933 --> 01:00:06,437 and trying to keep the party together. 1157 01:00:07,188 --> 01:00:09,523 We will stand firm in Vietnam. 1158 01:00:13,443 --> 01:00:15,405 - But Bobby quickly saw that the war 1159 01:00:15,530 --> 01:00:17,532 was turning into a disaster. 1160 01:00:18,282 --> 01:00:19,992 - This will make it necessary to raise 1161 01:00:20,117 --> 01:00:26,373 a monthly draft call from 17,000 to 35,000 per month. 1162 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,712 Somebody wrote on the pyramids 1163 01:00:32,130 --> 01:00:33,588 at the time they were being constructed, 1164 01:00:33,715 --> 01:00:36,550 the words and no one was angry enough to speak out. 1165 01:00:37,177 --> 01:00:39,637 I think people should be angry enough to speak out. 1166 01:00:40,513 --> 01:00:41,722 if one feels involved in it, 1167 01:00:41,847 --> 01:00:43,767 that one should try to do something about it. 1168 01:00:51,773 --> 01:00:53,275 Our people and this nation 1169 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,862 must be told the truth about this war 1170 01:00:57,197 --> 01:00:59,532 in all its terrible reality, 1171 01:00:59,657 --> 01:01:01,325 both because it is right, 1172 01:01:01,950 --> 01:01:03,828 both because it is right 1173 01:01:03,953 --> 01:01:06,205 and because the progress that we have claimed 1174 01:01:06,330 --> 01:01:08,833 toward increasing control over the country 1175 01:01:08,958 --> 01:01:11,168 and the security of the population 1176 01:01:11,293 --> 01:01:13,253 is largely illusionary. 1177 01:01:13,922 --> 01:01:17,717 The best way to save our most precious stake in Vietnam, 1178 01:01:18,050 --> 01:01:19,885 the lives of our soldiers, 1179 01:01:20,302 --> 01:01:22,930 is to stop the enlargement of the war. 1180 01:01:23,513 --> 01:01:25,892 And that the best way to end casualties 1181 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,060 is to end the war. 1182 01:01:33,648 --> 01:01:35,443 This was an earthquake 1183 01:01:35,568 --> 01:01:38,905 that Bobby would come out so much against the war. 1184 01:01:40,322 --> 01:01:42,575 This sent shock waves through the establishment 1185 01:01:42,700 --> 01:01:46,828 and people were furious at him for speaking out about this. 1186 01:01:46,953 --> 01:01:48,748 -President Johnson said, 1187 01:01:48,873 --> 01:01:50,040 if you persisted in that line, 1188 01:01:50,165 --> 01:01:52,793 it would end your political career rapidly. 1189 01:01:53,418 --> 01:01:55,713 - All of it makes Bobby look like a great hero 1190 01:01:55,838 --> 01:01:58,132 and makes me look like a son of a bitch. 1191 01:01:58,257 --> 01:02:00,593 - Suddenly there was tremendous opposition 1192 01:02:00,718 --> 01:02:03,637 to the Vietnam policies that Johnson was advocating. 1193 01:02:03,763 --> 01:02:04,847 We don't say that we're never 1194 01:02:04,972 --> 01:02:06,432 going to disagree. 1195 01:02:06,557 --> 01:02:08,350 I think that there's much to disagree about, 1196 01:02:08,475 --> 01:02:10,520 and I think it's within the Democratic party 1197 01:02:10,645 --> 01:02:12,062 that we should have dissent. 1198 01:02:12,188 --> 01:02:15,942 I am at the moment reassessing what I should do 1199 01:02:16,067 --> 01:02:18,568 as not only as a member of the Democratic Party, 1200 01:02:18,693 --> 01:02:21,697 but more importantly as a United States citizen. 1201 01:02:22,115 --> 01:02:23,825 - And then Robert Kennedy announced 1202 01:02:23,950 --> 01:02:25,325 he was going to run for president. 1203 01:02:26,077 --> 01:02:27,870 -I run to seek new policies, 1204 01:02:27,995 --> 01:02:30,998 policies to end the bloodshed in Vietnam 1205 01:02:31,123 --> 01:02:33,708 before it further saps our spirit. 1206 01:02:33,835 --> 01:02:36,295 - Civil rights, poverty in America, 1207 01:02:36,420 --> 01:02:37,630 the war in Vietnam. 1208 01:02:37,755 --> 01:02:40,257 That's why he's running mainly for the presidency. 1209 01:02:40,382 --> 01:02:41,967 Those major themes. 1210 01:02:44,178 --> 01:02:46,222 - Two weeks after Robert Kennedy announced 1211 01:02:46,347 --> 01:02:47,640 he was going to run for President, 1212 01:02:47,765 --> 01:02:49,642 Johnson saw the handwriting on the wall. 1213 01:02:49,767 --> 01:02:51,018 -I shall not seek 1214 01:02:51,477 --> 01:02:56,023 and I will not accept the nomination of my party 1215 01:02:56,148 --> 01:02:58,358 for another term as your president. 1216 01:02:58,818 --> 01:03:01,237 - Lyndon Johnson was bowing out of the race-- 1217 01:03:01,362 --> 01:03:02,738 that opened it up. 1218 01:03:03,363 --> 01:03:06,117 - The Senator has spoken out often on Vietnam, 1219 01:03:06,242 --> 01:03:07,535 civil rights, and poverty. 1220 01:03:07,660 --> 01:03:10,497 And each time he has taken a minority position. 1221 01:03:10,622 --> 01:03:12,873 - I think we can find answers to these problems. 1222 01:03:12,998 --> 01:03:14,917 I think we can make progress. 1223 01:03:15,042 --> 01:03:17,085 - Robert Kennedy is the only man 1224 01:03:17,212 --> 01:03:20,130 that can do the job that we need done. 1225 01:03:20,255 --> 01:03:21,507 - Is there a second choice? 1226 01:03:22,175 --> 01:03:24,677 -There is no second choice as far as we're concerned. 1227 01:03:25,135 --> 01:03:27,095 Senator Robert Kennedy, 1228 01:03:27,222 --> 01:03:30,140 he was foreseeing a country that was leaving 1229 01:03:30,265 --> 01:03:31,725 a lot of people behind. 1230 01:03:32,142 --> 01:03:34,395 He was making alliances with small businessmen, 1231 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,230 with farmers, with union members, 1232 01:03:36,355 --> 01:03:37,648 with Republicans. 1233 01:03:38,232 --> 01:03:39,233 - At the same time, 1234 01:03:39,358 --> 01:03:42,110 Bobby Kennedy took on the military industrial complex. 1235 01:03:42,237 --> 01:03:44,572 - I don't accept the idea of Vietnam 1236 01:03:44,697 --> 01:03:46,865 as just a military action, 1237 01:03:46,990 --> 01:03:49,285 that this is just a military effort. 1238 01:03:49,827 --> 01:03:52,622 Every time we have had difficulties in South Vietnam 1239 01:03:52,747 --> 01:03:56,208 and Southeast Asia, we have had only one response. 1240 01:03:56,333 --> 01:03:58,460 And that's to send more military men 1241 01:03:58,585 --> 01:04:00,337 and increase our military power. 1242 01:04:00,462 --> 01:04:02,047 And I don't think that's the kind of a struggle 1243 01:04:02,172 --> 01:04:03,632 that it is in Southeast Asia. 1244 01:04:08,553 --> 01:04:10,848 America was a great force in the world 1245 01:04:10,973 --> 01:04:12,558 with immense prestige 1246 01:04:12,683 --> 01:04:15,978 long before we became a great military power. 1247 01:04:18,647 --> 01:04:20,023 The generals in the army, 1248 01:04:20,148 --> 01:04:20,983 they knew him. 1249 01:04:21,108 --> 01:04:23,152 They didn't like him, they didn't trust him. 1250 01:04:23,277 --> 01:04:25,112 They felt he had a completely different agenda. 1251 01:04:25,237 --> 01:04:28,282 He wanted to end the war, bring our troops home. 1252 01:04:28,407 --> 01:04:31,910 And Bobby also saw that Bell Helicopter and Hughes 1253 01:04:32,035 --> 01:04:34,913 we're making a fortune selling helicopters 1254 01:04:35,038 --> 01:04:37,250 to the army in Vietnam. 1255 01:04:37,375 --> 01:04:40,335 And the CIA, they're running drugs, 1256 01:04:40,460 --> 01:04:42,838 they're trying out new tactics. 1257 01:04:42,963 --> 01:04:45,340 They're trying out expensive new weapons 1258 01:04:45,465 --> 01:04:47,760 like Monsanto's Agent Orange. 1259 01:04:49,178 --> 01:04:53,473 There is a ton of money being made off this terrible war 1260 01:04:54,017 --> 01:04:56,310 and the military industrial complex, 1261 01:04:56,435 --> 01:04:58,520 they didn't want it taken away. 1262 01:05:02,942 --> 01:05:04,777 Agent Orange was a defoliant, 1263 01:05:04,902 --> 01:05:06,320 one of those new weapons of war 1264 01:05:06,445 --> 01:05:08,863 supposed to turn the tide in Vietnam. 1265 01:05:08,990 --> 01:05:11,867 It was sprayed over 5 million acres of South Vietnam 1266 01:05:11,992 --> 01:05:14,662 from 1962 to 1970. 1267 01:05:14,787 --> 01:05:17,540 - It was one way we were going to win the war-- 1268 01:05:17,665 --> 01:05:19,708 dump herbicides all over the jungle 1269 01:05:19,833 --> 01:05:22,628 so the Viet Kong would come out and fight. 1270 01:05:23,128 --> 01:05:24,963 Its use was restricted in 1970 1271 01:05:25,088 --> 01:05:27,550 because tests showed the ingredients in Agent Orange 1272 01:05:27,675 --> 01:05:30,302 caused cancer and birth defects. 1273 01:05:31,595 --> 01:05:34,015 - Newly-released court documents indicate 1274 01:05:34,140 --> 01:05:36,392 that the companies which manufactured Agent Orange 1275 01:05:36,517 --> 01:05:40,395 knew as far back as the 1960s that one of its ingredients 1276 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,190 contained the toxic contaminant dioxin. 1277 01:05:43,315 --> 01:05:45,777 - A lethal ingredient in Agent Orange. 1278 01:05:46,485 --> 01:05:47,570 The government has now agreed 1279 01:05:47,695 --> 01:05:50,280 to pay $8 million a year to veterans. 1280 01:05:50,405 --> 01:05:51,490 Over the next six years, 1281 01:05:51,615 --> 01:05:54,285 the fund will pay out at least a quarter of a billion dollars 1282 01:05:54,410 --> 01:05:55,870 to veterans and their families, 1283 01:05:55,995 --> 01:05:58,247 including children not yet born. 1284 01:05:58,955 --> 01:06:00,875 Monsanto has been involved in 1285 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:05,628 some of the worst environmental catastrophes in this country. 1286 01:06:05,755 --> 01:06:08,340 It was the creator of Agent Orange. 1287 01:06:08,465 --> 01:06:10,550 It was the creator of DDT. 1288 01:06:11,177 --> 01:06:13,220 I've been litigating against Monsanto 1289 01:06:13,345 --> 01:06:16,307 since I became an environmental lawyer 35 years ago. 1290 01:06:17,098 --> 01:06:20,060 - You have quite a long history with Monsanto. 1291 01:06:20,185 --> 01:06:22,938 I mean there's the Monsanto story in your life 1292 01:06:23,063 --> 01:06:25,523 seems to start because of Rachel Carson's book, 1293 01:06:25,648 --> 01:06:26,900 Silent Spring. 1294 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,195 Was that the origin? 1295 01:06:30,028 --> 01:06:31,238 -You know, when I was a little kid, 1296 01:06:31,363 --> 01:06:34,075 I'd wanted to be a scientist or a vet. 1297 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,287 I wanted to be like a field biologist like Rachel Carson. 1298 01:06:38,412 --> 01:06:41,207 One night, my uncle Jack and my father 1299 01:06:41,332 --> 01:06:43,542 had her over to Cape Cod. 1300 01:06:43,667 --> 01:06:46,920 I got to meet her and that was really important 1301 01:06:47,045 --> 01:06:50,215 because she really became my hero. 1302 01:06:50,842 --> 01:06:52,217 Biologist Rachel Carson, 1303 01:06:52,342 --> 01:06:54,053 worked four years in the preparation 1304 01:06:54,178 --> 01:06:55,637 of Silent Spring. 1305 01:06:55,763 --> 01:06:57,055 What she wrote has been called 1306 01:06:57,180 --> 01:06:59,100 the most controversial book of the year. 1307 01:07:00,893 --> 01:07:01,810 Up until that time, 1308 01:07:01,935 --> 01:07:05,563 nobody had any problem with pesticides like DDT. 1309 01:07:05,688 --> 01:07:08,233 - These insects can now be completely wiped out 1310 01:07:08,358 --> 01:07:11,153 by manmade fogs, loaded with DDT. 1311 01:07:11,278 --> 01:07:13,405 - Pesticides and the chemical industry 1312 01:07:13,530 --> 01:07:15,282 were putting us on top of the world. 1313 01:07:15,407 --> 01:07:17,242 We were going to have abundant food for everybody. 1314 01:07:17,367 --> 01:07:19,495 We were going to get rid of all the pests. 1315 01:07:19,620 --> 01:07:24,500 And Rachel Carson came along and said, yeah, 1316 01:07:25,333 --> 01:07:28,962 but actually pesticides, were imposing huge costs 1317 01:07:29,088 --> 01:07:30,463 that we're not seeing. 1318 01:07:38,472 --> 01:07:42,058 Rachel Carson wrote Silent Spring in '62 1319 01:07:42,183 --> 01:07:44,103 and it alerted people for the first time 1320 01:07:44,228 --> 01:07:48,148 that DDT is killing not just the predatory insects, 1321 01:07:48,273 --> 01:07:51,277 it's killing all the insects, killing the worms. 1322 01:07:51,402 --> 01:07:52,778 The fish are dying, 1323 01:07:52,903 --> 01:07:54,738 the songbirds are disappearing. 1324 01:07:54,863 --> 01:07:56,865 The spring is going to be silent 1325 01:07:57,323 --> 01:07:59,618 because there's going to be no bird song. 1326 01:08:02,830 --> 01:08:06,250 She became an enormous threat to the pesticide industry. 1327 01:08:07,333 --> 01:08:10,880 Monsanto, which was the manufacturer of DDT, 1328 01:08:11,547 --> 01:08:14,633 they mounted a nationwide campaign against Rachel Carson 1329 01:08:14,758 --> 01:08:16,052 to discredit her. 1330 01:08:16,177 --> 01:08:21,432 They had Life Magazine, Time Magazine all write attacks, 1331 01:08:21,557 --> 01:08:23,142 vicious attacks on her. 1332 01:08:23,725 --> 01:08:25,768 They used the same talking points. 1333 01:08:25,895 --> 01:08:26,937 She's a quack. 1334 01:08:27,062 --> 01:08:29,773 She's anti-science. 1335 01:08:29,898 --> 01:08:31,817 - This courageous woman had taken on 1336 01:08:31,942 --> 01:08:36,363 the powers that be showing the dangers of DDT 1337 01:08:36,488 --> 01:08:40,700 and was just vilified and taken apart by Monsanto. 1338 01:08:41,452 --> 01:08:44,372 -They had scientists going around the country 1339 01:08:44,497 --> 01:08:47,040 doing speeches condemning her. 1340 01:08:47,332 --> 01:08:50,585 - The major claims in Ms. Rachel Carson's book 1341 01:08:50,710 --> 01:08:54,340 are completely unsupported by scientific evidence 1342 01:08:54,465 --> 01:08:57,593 are gross distortions of the actual facts. 1343 01:08:57,718 --> 01:08:59,387 This became the blueprint 1344 01:08:59,512 --> 01:09:03,557 for all the other industries for how do you discredit 1345 01:09:03,682 --> 01:09:06,185 and destroy your critics. 1346 01:09:06,977 --> 01:09:10,147 Rachel Carson never defended herself 1347 01:09:11,315 --> 01:09:13,650 because she was dying of cancer at the time. 1348 01:09:15,652 --> 01:09:18,447 And my uncle commissioned a group. 1349 01:09:18,572 --> 01:09:22,952 He got Jerome Wiesner, who is a scientific advisor 1350 01:09:23,077 --> 01:09:25,370 to bring together a group of scientists 1351 01:09:25,495 --> 01:09:28,165 to actually read her book line by line. 1352 01:09:28,290 --> 01:09:29,375 The administration announced 1353 01:09:29,500 --> 01:09:31,293 that the government pesticide program 1354 01:09:31,418 --> 01:09:32,878 would be reviewed by a panel 1355 01:09:33,003 --> 01:09:35,047 of the President's Science Committee. 1356 01:09:35,172 --> 01:09:37,007 -I think particularly, of course 1357 01:09:37,132 --> 01:09:37,967 it's Ms. Carson's book, 1358 01:09:38,092 --> 01:09:40,593 but they are examining the matter. 1359 01:09:41,428 --> 01:09:44,557 -She gave three references for virtually every fact 1360 01:09:44,682 --> 01:09:45,892 in her book. 1361 01:09:46,017 --> 01:09:47,935 So she really... 1362 01:09:48,060 --> 01:09:50,270 -So she knew the stakes. -Yeah. 1363 01:09:50,395 --> 01:09:52,063 She knew she was going to be attacked 1364 01:09:52,773 --> 01:09:55,025 and they went through her book line by line 1365 01:09:55,150 --> 01:09:58,028 and they issued a report that validated everything. 1366 01:10:00,990 --> 01:10:02,908 And it exonerated her. 1367 01:10:03,033 --> 01:10:05,618 And Silent Spring became one of the greatest bestsellers 1368 01:10:05,743 --> 01:10:06,828 in history. 1369 01:10:07,453 --> 01:10:10,457 And then my uncle planned an Earth Day. 1370 01:10:10,582 --> 01:10:13,127 He was going around the country to talk about, 1371 01:10:13,710 --> 01:10:16,130 to promote the first day Earth Day, 1372 01:10:16,255 --> 01:10:18,423 and it was his last big campaign. 1373 01:10:19,383 --> 01:10:22,887 I'm very proud that my uncle vindicated Rachel Carson. 1374 01:10:23,387 --> 01:10:25,680 - Because of her book, Silent Spring, 1375 01:10:25,805 --> 01:10:27,182 DDT was banned. 1376 01:10:27,515 --> 01:10:29,768 She didn't live long enough to see that, 1377 01:10:29,893 --> 01:10:33,313 but it was outlawed in 1973 in this country. 1378 01:10:37,652 --> 01:10:41,447 Monsanto, they needed something after DDT got outlawed. 1379 01:10:42,447 --> 01:10:47,243 So they came up with glyphosate, which is now a known carcinogen, 1380 01:10:48,078 --> 01:10:51,957 and they began using this in their Roundup herbicide. 1381 01:10:52,750 --> 01:10:53,833 It was jarring to see 1382 01:10:53,958 --> 01:10:56,295 that there was this chemical, glyphosate, 1383 01:10:56,420 --> 01:10:58,047 that was causing cancer 1384 01:10:58,713 --> 01:11:02,300 because it was a pesticide that was so commonly used. 1385 01:11:02,425 --> 01:11:04,177 It was so pervasive in our agriculture 1386 01:11:04,303 --> 01:11:06,847 and our food systems and residential uses. 1387 01:11:06,972 --> 01:11:08,932 And no one's being warned about it. 1388 01:11:09,057 --> 01:11:12,477 -Even though over the years we saw this propaganda 1389 01:11:12,602 --> 01:11:14,522 where they'd say "Roundup is safe enough 1390 01:11:14,647 --> 01:11:15,647 to drink, basically." 1391 01:11:15,772 --> 01:11:16,607 There was this commercial 1392 01:11:16,732 --> 01:11:18,358 where this guy’s walking around in shorts 1393 01:11:18,483 --> 01:11:20,402 and a t-shirt shooting weeds on his driveway, 1394 01:11:20,527 --> 01:11:24,238 like fun little western-style commercial. 1395 01:11:24,365 --> 01:11:26,825 -Home gardeners, and they're wearing shorts and flip flops 1396 01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:28,077 and they're spraying Roundup. 1397 01:11:28,202 --> 01:11:29,328 They're going to get it on their skin 1398 01:11:29,453 --> 01:11:31,830 and it's going to be absorbed by their skin. 1399 01:11:31,955 --> 01:11:36,752 - So then in 2017 there was a groundskeeper, 1400 01:11:36,877 --> 01:11:38,128 Dewayne "Lee" Johnson, 1401 01:11:38,253 --> 01:11:41,507 he had the glyphosate Roundup Ready on his back. 1402 01:11:41,632 --> 01:11:43,800 I was applying the herbicide 1403 01:11:43,925 --> 01:11:47,137 and the hose snapped and it started to funnel out. 1404 01:11:47,262 --> 01:11:48,347 And the stuff was going everywhere, 1405 01:11:48,472 --> 01:11:50,390 it got on the outside of my suit, 1406 01:11:50,515 --> 01:11:53,102 it got inside my suit, it was on my face, 1407 01:11:53,227 --> 01:11:54,143 it was everywhere. 1408 01:11:54,268 --> 01:11:56,397 And that's where I got exposed. 1409 01:11:56,980 --> 01:11:58,565 And he ended up suffering 1410 01:11:58,690 --> 01:12:01,402 and almost dying from non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, 1411 01:12:01,527 --> 01:12:03,862 which is a form of cancer that's very deadly. 1412 01:12:03,987 --> 01:12:06,115 Glyphosate was responsible, 1413 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:07,700 so he was one of the first clients 1414 01:12:07,825 --> 01:12:10,410 that this legal team took on Monsanto. 1415 01:12:10,535 --> 01:12:13,580 - Our lawsuits were about proving that 1416 01:12:13,705 --> 01:12:16,958 Monsanto knew and their failure to warn. 1417 01:12:17,083 --> 01:12:19,210 - Monsanto for years and years 1418 01:12:19,335 --> 01:12:21,630 and years since Agent Orange, 1419 01:12:21,755 --> 01:12:25,008 they're very involved in politics and lobbying 1420 01:12:25,133 --> 01:12:27,510 and so they just had an attitude in the United States 1421 01:12:27,635 --> 01:12:29,262 that they were untouchable. 1422 01:12:29,388 --> 01:12:31,557 - We really didn't have the resources 1423 01:12:31,682 --> 01:12:33,933 to take on a company like Monsanto. 1424 01:12:34,058 --> 01:12:36,437 So we started calling people that we knew 1425 01:12:36,562 --> 01:12:38,438 could help us fight this fight. 1426 01:12:38,563 --> 01:12:40,898 Because we knew we were outgunned and outmanned 1427 01:12:41,023 --> 01:12:42,902 and out moneyed for sure. 1428 01:12:43,027 --> 01:12:44,820 One of first people we called was Bobby 1429 01:12:46,072 --> 01:12:48,907 because he had gone up against Monsanto before 1430 01:12:49,032 --> 01:12:50,867 and he had known a lot of their tactics. 1431 01:12:50,992 --> 01:12:53,953 He'd known just how nasty they could be 1432 01:12:54,078 --> 01:12:55,497 to individual scientists, 1433 01:12:55,622 --> 01:12:57,082 particularly in water contamination 1434 01:12:57,207 --> 01:12:58,250 and his work with the Waterkeeper. 1435 01:12:58,375 --> 01:13:00,960 So he joined us right from the very beginning 1436 01:13:01,087 --> 01:13:04,380 and helped us develop this strategy and the process 1437 01:13:04,507 --> 01:13:06,967 through which we'd actually prosecute this case. 1438 01:13:07,092 --> 01:13:09,887 - For 40 years, Monsanto knew 1439 01:13:10,012 --> 01:13:13,557 that Roundup was carcinogenic and it made great efforts 1440 01:13:13,682 --> 01:13:16,058 to hide that from the American public. 1441 01:13:16,185 --> 01:13:17,727 The relationship with the EPA, 1442 01:13:17,853 --> 01:13:20,522 particularly as it relates to Roundup, is a tortured one, 1443 01:13:20,647 --> 01:13:21,565 to say the least. 1444 01:13:21,690 --> 01:13:23,775 - The EPA initially we're going to classify 1445 01:13:23,900 --> 01:13:27,278 glyphosate as a class C carcinogen, 1446 01:13:27,403 --> 01:13:31,533 and that's when Monsanto kicked the lobbying into high gear 1447 01:13:31,658 --> 01:13:34,160 and really fought that classification. 1448 01:13:34,285 --> 01:13:38,165 -And the political will to oppose Monsanto disappeared. 1449 01:13:38,290 --> 01:13:41,335 -Interactions between Monsanto scientists 1450 01:13:41,460 --> 01:13:43,920 and people actually within the EPA 1451 01:13:44,045 --> 01:13:46,965 is really how glyphosate got approved. 1452 01:13:47,340 --> 01:13:48,508 When I first got involved, 1453 01:13:48,633 --> 01:13:53,305 I believed in the EPA, just naively as I may have been. 1454 01:13:53,430 --> 01:13:55,598 I thought, oh, well, they must be mistaken. 1455 01:13:56,267 --> 01:13:58,060 And it was Bobby who explained to me, 1456 01:13:58,185 --> 01:14:00,228 no, they know what's going on. 1457 01:14:00,353 --> 01:14:02,857 You cannot litigate this case as though 1458 01:14:02,982 --> 01:14:05,692 the EPA is ignorant or mistaken. 1459 01:14:05,817 --> 01:14:08,987 You have to litigate this case as though the EPA is in cahoots, 1460 01:14:09,655 --> 01:14:10,738 and he was right. 1461 01:14:11,072 --> 01:14:14,493 - We came across discovery documents 1462 01:14:14,618 --> 01:14:18,205 that showed that it was an email exchange 1463 01:14:18,330 --> 01:14:22,960 between the executive officers of Monsanto Corporation 1464 01:14:23,085 --> 01:14:26,755 with the head of the pesticide division EPA for over a decade. 1465 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:30,342 So the head of the EPA pesticide division 1466 01:14:31,008 --> 01:14:34,513 was actually under Monsanto's control, 1467 01:14:34,638 --> 01:14:38,683 and they were telling him, you have to kill this study, 1468 01:14:38,808 --> 01:14:41,353 you have to falsify this science. 1469 01:14:41,478 --> 01:14:45,315 - Bobby was really good at understanding the nuances 1470 01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:49,027 through which corporate America manipulates science. 1471 01:14:49,152 --> 01:14:51,447 Monsanto denies any link between 1472 01:14:51,572 --> 01:14:54,575 the active ingredient in Roundup and cancer. 1473 01:14:54,700 --> 01:14:56,577 - In court, Monsanto would just come in 1474 01:14:56,702 --> 01:15:00,663 and take an absolute position, no evidence at all whatsoever. 1475 01:15:00,788 --> 01:15:04,668 -Monsanto didn't warn because glyphosate-based products 1476 01:15:04,793 --> 01:15:06,168 don't cause cancer. 1477 01:15:06,962 --> 01:15:09,548 But in one of the emails, 1478 01:15:09,673 --> 01:15:13,177 Donna Farmer, one of the head scientists from Monsanto said, 1479 01:15:13,302 --> 01:15:15,928 we can't say it doesn't cause cancer 1480 01:15:16,053 --> 01:15:19,432 because we just haven't done the studies to prove that. 1481 01:15:20,308 --> 01:15:23,187 Of course, that was a dynamite document. 1482 01:15:24,563 --> 01:15:27,148 - Monsanto chose to tell the world 1483 01:15:27,273 --> 01:15:30,443 that this product is as safe as table salt. 1484 01:15:30,568 --> 01:15:34,573 If Monsanto had warned our client, Lee Johnson, 1485 01:15:34,698 --> 01:15:36,408 we wouldn't have had a case. 1486 01:15:36,533 --> 01:15:40,787 -Late today, a California jury awarded nearly $300 million 1487 01:15:40,912 --> 01:15:43,665 to a former school groundskeeper who sued Monsanto 1488 01:15:43,790 --> 01:15:46,125 claiming its weed killers, including Roundup, 1489 01:15:46,252 --> 01:15:48,003 gave him non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. 1490 01:15:48,128 --> 01:15:50,963 - The unanimous jury here in San Francisco 1491 01:15:51,088 --> 01:15:53,717 has told Monsanto - enough, 1492 01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:56,678 you did something wrong and now you have to pay. 1493 01:15:56,803 --> 01:15:58,347 And Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 1494 01:15:58,472 --> 01:16:00,848 who was in the courtroom for today's verdict. 1495 01:16:00,973 --> 01:16:03,768 -And I'm so glad that this jury held them accountable. 1496 01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,688 - It's kind of amazing that this one groundskeeper 1497 01:16:07,813 --> 01:16:09,983 from Northern California has essentially brought 1498 01:16:10,108 --> 01:16:13,403 this venerated institution to its knees. 1499 01:16:13,945 --> 01:16:15,822 - I want to say one last thing, 1500 01:16:15,947 --> 01:16:21,453 which is that this case was personally gratifying to me. 1501 01:16:21,578 --> 01:16:23,455 My hero, Rachel Carson, 1502 01:16:23,580 --> 01:16:27,583 was under a vicious sustained assault by Monsanto. 1503 01:16:27,708 --> 01:16:30,170 I watched that happen as a little boy, 1504 01:16:30,295 --> 01:16:32,880 and I was so happy that I got to be 1505 01:16:33,007 --> 01:16:35,342 part of this historic trial, 1506 01:16:35,883 --> 01:16:38,178 which once and for all brought Monsanto 1507 01:16:38,303 --> 01:16:42,015 finally to justice in front of an American jury. 1508 01:16:43,475 --> 01:16:46,520 - We've heard the benefits of pesticides, 1509 01:16:47,187 --> 01:16:50,523 but very little about the hazards, 1510 01:16:50,648 --> 01:16:52,317 very little about the failures, 1511 01:16:52,442 --> 01:16:53,902 the inefficiencies. 1512 01:16:54,653 --> 01:16:58,365 And yet the public was being asked to accept these chemicals, 1513 01:16:58,490 --> 01:17:02,285 was being asked to acquiesce in their use 1514 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,288 and did not have the whole picture. 1515 01:17:05,413 --> 01:17:08,375 So I set about to remedy the balance there. 1516 01:17:16,173 --> 01:17:17,842 - Along came COVID, 1517 01:17:19,177 --> 01:17:21,220 and this is when Bobby began taking on 1518 01:17:21,347 --> 01:17:23,057 the pharmaceutical industry 1519 01:17:23,182 --> 01:17:25,933 and its connections to the CDC, 1520 01:17:26,058 --> 01:17:28,978 the Food and Drug Administration and big media 1521 01:17:29,730 --> 01:17:31,063 When it comes to COVID, 1522 01:17:31,188 --> 01:17:34,358 what is it that they got wrong in your opinion? 1523 01:17:34,483 --> 01:17:39,072 -The fact that we mismanaged COVID is indisputable, 1524 01:17:39,197 --> 01:17:41,783 and the best evidence of that is that for 50 years 1525 01:17:41,908 --> 01:17:44,660 there's been protocols for managing global pandemics, 1526 01:17:44,787 --> 01:17:46,328 and they all say-- 1527 01:17:46,455 --> 01:17:49,332 the WHO, the European Medical Agency, 1528 01:17:49,457 --> 01:17:50,917 CDC, et cetera, 1529 01:17:51,502 --> 01:17:53,462 they all say in a pandemic 1530 01:17:53,587 --> 01:17:55,547 what you do is you isolate the sick, 1531 01:17:55,672 --> 01:17:58,800 you take care of the vulnerable, 1532 01:17:58,925 --> 01:18:01,637 but you don't lock down a population 1533 01:18:01,762 --> 01:18:04,097 for a respiratory virus 1534 01:18:04,222 --> 01:18:06,683 because it's more likely to spread indoors. 1535 01:18:06,808 --> 01:18:09,643 The lockdowns actually end up killing more people, 1536 01:18:10,353 --> 01:18:13,607 so they were violating their own protocols. 1537 01:18:14,107 --> 01:18:15,900 - Bobby was talking early on 1538 01:18:16,025 --> 01:18:19,528 about the fact that this virus most likely escaped 1539 01:18:19,653 --> 01:18:21,407 from a lab in Wuhan, China, 1540 01:18:21,532 --> 01:18:25,993 which had been funded by Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institutes of Health. 1541 01:18:26,118 --> 01:18:29,080 But now we know that that's pretty much what happened. 1542 01:18:29,998 --> 01:18:31,373 During the pandemic, 1543 01:18:31,500 --> 01:18:35,337 it was very clear that there was one narrative 1544 01:18:35,462 --> 01:18:37,463 that anyone was allowed to discuss 1545 01:18:37,588 --> 01:18:39,507 and anything counter to that narrative 1546 01:18:39,632 --> 01:18:42,802 we were made to believe was dangerous, 1547 01:18:43,345 --> 01:18:45,263 uninformed. 1548 01:18:45,388 --> 01:18:47,307 - I knew back in May of 2020 1549 01:18:47,432 --> 01:18:51,853 that the COVID vaccine was not going to prevent transmission. 1550 01:18:51,978 --> 01:18:55,357 I went through the evidence, I read the monkey studies. 1551 01:18:56,483 --> 01:18:59,485 They were basing the whole study on a handful of monkeys 1552 01:19:00,237 --> 01:19:03,365 and they were giving half of them the vaccine 1553 01:19:03,490 --> 01:19:05,033 and half of them a placebo, 1554 01:19:05,950 --> 01:19:07,827 and they were exposing them to COVID 1555 01:19:07,952 --> 01:19:11,122 and the vaccinated monkeys had the same amount of COVID 1556 01:19:11,247 --> 01:19:14,167 in their nasal pharynx as the unvaccinated monkeys. 1557 01:19:14,292 --> 01:19:16,210 And when I said the monkey study 1558 01:19:16,335 --> 01:19:19,255 showed the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission, 1559 01:19:19,505 --> 01:19:22,133 I was called a conspiracy theorist 1560 01:19:23,050 --> 01:19:24,803 and silenced for it, 1561 01:19:24,928 --> 01:19:26,345 taken off of Instagram. 1562 01:19:27,180 --> 01:19:30,100 - He was removed from Facebook, Twitter. 1563 01:19:30,225 --> 01:19:32,768 He was just blackballed, basically. 1564 01:19:33,145 --> 01:19:35,313 - It's scary that the pharmaceutical companies 1565 01:19:35,438 --> 01:19:40,027 have grown into 70% of the advertising on television. 1566 01:19:40,152 --> 01:19:43,197 - Seventy-five percent of evening news 1567 01:19:43,322 --> 01:19:45,240 from pharmaceutical companies 1568 01:19:45,365 --> 01:19:47,908 and I can't get on any of the networks, 1569 01:19:48,033 --> 01:19:52,497 so all they hear about me is the defamations 1570 01:19:52,622 --> 01:19:55,542 and the pejoratives and insults 1571 01:19:55,667 --> 01:19:56,752 and the name calling, 1572 01:19:56,877 --> 01:19:58,127 and you know, he's a racist, 1573 01:19:58,253 --> 01:20:01,590 he's an antisemite, he's got a brain worm, 1574 01:20:01,715 --> 01:20:03,007 he eats dogs. 1575 01:20:04,467 --> 01:20:05,843 He's anti-vaxx. 1576 01:20:05,968 --> 01:20:07,637 I did a quick Google search 1577 01:20:08,305 --> 01:20:11,933 and only saw very negative articles about Bobby, 1578 01:20:13,142 --> 01:20:15,978 and I realized that there was something going on 1579 01:20:16,103 --> 01:20:19,523 with the media trying to censor what he was trying to say. 1580 01:20:19,983 --> 01:20:21,025 What he was pointing out was 1581 01:20:21,150 --> 01:20:25,988 a lot of people died from side effects of these vaccines, 1582 01:20:26,113 --> 01:20:28,867 or at least their illnesses were exacerbated 1583 01:20:28,992 --> 01:20:31,493 by taking the vaccine rather than cured. 1584 01:20:32,162 --> 01:20:35,332 We now know when President Biden came into office, 1585 01:20:35,457 --> 01:20:37,458 he and Mark Zuckerberg got together 1586 01:20:37,583 --> 01:20:42,130 and Biden requested that they take Bobby Kennedy off 1587 01:20:42,255 --> 01:20:44,340 their social media. 1588 01:20:44,465 --> 01:20:47,010 -These people from the Biden administration pushed us 1589 01:20:47,135 --> 01:20:49,262 and said, 1590 01:20:49,387 --> 01:20:54,725 anything that says that vaccines might have side effects, 1591 01:20:54,850 --> 01:20:56,728 you basically need to take down. 1592 01:20:56,853 --> 01:20:58,313 Our government is telling us 1593 01:20:58,438 --> 01:20:59,772 that we need to censor true things. 1594 01:20:59,898 --> 01:21:02,275 It's like, this is a disaster. 1595 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,780 -It's terrible what they did to suppress Bobby's free speech. 1596 01:21:08,615 --> 01:21:11,910 His family broke with him, a lot of people broke with him. 1597 01:21:20,502 --> 01:21:23,045 Hate speech has consequences. 1598 01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,467 Distortion of the truth has consequences. 1599 01:21:27,842 --> 01:21:30,803 -You don't have the right to a platform 1600 01:21:30,928 --> 01:21:34,057 to promote idiotic bigoted messaging. 1601 01:21:34,390 --> 01:21:38,770 This is not the kind of free speech that I know of. 1602 01:21:39,020 --> 01:21:40,480 - Mr. Kennedy, do you think it was easy 1603 01:21:40,605 --> 01:21:43,483 for Jewish people to escape systematic slaughter of Nazis, 1604 01:21:43,608 --> 01:21:44,817 yes or no? 1605 01:21:44,943 --> 01:21:45,860 - Absolutely not. 1606 01:21:45,985 --> 01:21:47,028 - Okay, good. 1607 01:21:47,153 --> 01:21:50,365 Do you think it was just as hard to wear a mask during COVID 1608 01:21:50,490 --> 01:21:52,325 as it was to hide under floorboards 1609 01:21:52,450 --> 01:21:54,452 or false walls so you weren't murdered 1610 01:21:54,577 --> 01:21:55,787 or dragged to a concentration camp? 1611 01:21:55,912 --> 01:21:57,622 -Of course not. That's ridiculous. 1612 01:21:57,747 --> 01:21:59,082 -That's a comparison that you made. 1613 01:21:59,207 --> 01:22:00,083 I did not make that comparison. 1614 01:22:00,208 --> 01:22:01,668 Mr. Kennedy, the measures taken-- 1615 01:22:01,793 --> 01:22:03,168 The time is mine. I'm reclaiming it. 1616 01:22:03,295 --> 01:22:04,628 Please ask the witness to stop talking. 1617 01:22:04,753 --> 01:22:06,255 You asked me a question. 1618 01:22:07,507 --> 01:22:09,217 -Protective measures were taken 1619 01:22:10,218 --> 01:22:15,015 to take down disinformation about vaccines, 1620 01:22:15,140 --> 01:22:17,767 and no matter what you may think, Mr. Kennedy 1621 01:22:17,892 --> 01:22:19,268 and I revere your name, 1622 01:22:19,893 --> 01:22:23,732 you're not here to propound your case for censorship. 1623 01:22:23,857 --> 01:22:24,815 No. 1624 01:22:25,275 --> 01:22:27,902 It's an opportunity to have a conspiracy theory 1625 01:22:28,528 --> 01:22:31,280 and it makes me profoundly sad. 1626 01:22:31,948 --> 01:22:35,452 I began my political interest with your father 1627 01:22:36,368 --> 01:22:40,707 and it brings shame on a storied name that I revere. 1628 01:22:41,290 --> 01:22:42,167 - I just want to respond-- - Mr. Chair. 1629 01:22:42,292 --> 01:22:43,335 Mr. Chair. 1630 01:22:43,460 --> 01:22:44,585 - May I, Mr. Chairman? 1631 01:22:44,710 --> 01:22:45,712 - You may not, you may not. 1632 01:22:45,837 --> 01:22:46,922 - I don't think-- - Time's out. 1633 01:22:47,047 --> 01:22:48,507 We're done. 1634 01:22:48,632 --> 01:22:51,633 - I want to say this while I'm on the record, 1635 01:22:52,468 --> 01:22:54,387 while I'm under oath. 1636 01:22:56,013 --> 01:22:59,142 I've never been anti-vaccine, but everybody in this room 1637 01:22:59,267 --> 01:23:01,060 probably believes that I have been 1638 01:23:01,185 --> 01:23:02,728 because that's the prevailing narrative. 1639 01:23:03,730 --> 01:23:08,860 I believe vaccines should be tested with the same rigor 1640 01:23:08,985 --> 01:23:11,028 as other medicines and medications, 1641 01:23:11,822 --> 01:23:16,575 and my views are constantly misrepresented. 1642 01:23:16,702 --> 01:23:18,662 I spent 30 years trying to get mercury 1643 01:23:18,787 --> 01:23:20,038 out of the fish in this country, 1644 01:23:20,163 --> 01:23:22,457 and nobody ever called me anti-fish. 1645 01:23:23,165 --> 01:23:25,793 At that time we were trying to get mercury out of vaccines. 1646 01:23:25,918 --> 01:23:27,462 Mothers were coming and saying, 1647 01:23:27,587 --> 01:23:30,715 my child was injured by the vaccine, 1648 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:32,842 and they said, nobody's listening to us. 1649 01:23:32,967 --> 01:23:35,137 And I felt like I should listen to them 1650 01:23:35,262 --> 01:23:36,763 and actually read the science. 1651 01:23:36,888 --> 01:23:38,765 And that is what got me down into the-- 1652 01:23:38,890 --> 01:23:39,807 - Time. 1653 01:23:39,932 --> 01:23:42,352 -And by the way, it's the worst career decision 1654 01:23:42,477 --> 01:23:43,603 I have ever made. 1655 01:23:44,353 --> 01:23:46,857 We have to stop trying to destroy each other, 1656 01:23:46,982 --> 01:23:48,650 to marginalize, to vilify, 1657 01:23:48,775 --> 01:23:50,610 to gaslight each other. 1658 01:23:50,735 --> 01:23:54,655 We have to find that place inside of ourselves of light, 1659 01:23:54,780 --> 01:23:57,075 of empathy, of compassion, 1660 01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,660 and above all, we need to elevate 1661 01:23:59,785 --> 01:24:01,662 the constitution of the United States, 1662 01:24:01,788 --> 01:24:03,957 which was written for hard times, 1663 01:24:04,332 --> 01:24:07,877 and that has to be the premier compass 1664 01:24:08,420 --> 01:24:10,255 for all of our activities. 1665 01:24:10,380 --> 01:24:11,588 Thank you very much. 1666 01:24:11,713 --> 01:24:12,798 - Thank you. - Mr. Chairman. 1667 01:24:14,467 --> 01:24:15,427 - We stand in recess. 1668 01:24:15,552 --> 01:24:16,510 We stand in recess. 1669 01:24:16,635 --> 01:24:17,970 We'll be back in and right back at it. 1670 01:24:18,095 --> 01:24:19,055 Thank you all. 1671 01:24:40,493 --> 01:24:42,162 Do they know about Martin Luther King? 1672 01:24:44,247 --> 01:24:45,457 Ladies and gentlemen, 1673 01:24:48,710 --> 01:24:49,835 I'm only going to talk to you 1674 01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,297 just for a minute or so this evening 1675 01:24:52,422 --> 01:24:57,510 because I have some very sad news for all of you 1676 01:24:57,635 --> 01:25:02,140 and I think sad news for all of our fellow citizens 1677 01:25:02,682 --> 01:25:05,893 and people who love peace all over the world, 1678 01:25:06,435 --> 01:25:09,813 and that is that Martin Luther King was shot 1679 01:25:09,938 --> 01:25:12,525 and was killed tonight in Memphis, Tennessee. 1680 01:25:20,242 --> 01:25:24,328 For those of you who are tempted to be filled with hatred 1681 01:25:24,453 --> 01:25:28,583 and mistrust of the injustice of such an act, 1682 01:25:29,125 --> 01:25:33,212 I would only say that I can also feel in my own heart 1683 01:25:33,755 --> 01:25:35,257 the same kind of feeling. 1684 01:25:36,173 --> 01:25:38,760 I had a member of my family killed. 1685 01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,595 But we have to make an effort to get beyond 1686 01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,140 or go beyond these rather difficult times. 1687 01:25:45,892 --> 01:25:47,518 What we need in the United States 1688 01:25:47,643 --> 01:25:49,103 is not division, 1689 01:25:50,188 --> 01:25:52,732 what we need in the United States is not hatred. 1690 01:25:53,232 --> 01:25:54,650 What we need in the United States 1691 01:25:54,775 --> 01:25:57,362 is not violence and lawlessness, 1692 01:25:58,403 --> 01:26:00,907 but is love and wisdom 1693 01:26:01,032 --> 01:26:03,117 and compassion toward one another. 1694 01:26:04,243 --> 01:26:07,122 A feeling of justice toward those 1695 01:26:07,247 --> 01:26:10,292 who still suffer within our country, 1696 01:26:10,417 --> 01:26:13,878 whether they be white or whether they be black. 1697 01:26:15,463 --> 01:26:17,423 Let us say a prayer for our country 1698 01:26:17,548 --> 01:26:18,883 and for our people. 1699 01:26:19,008 --> 01:26:20,008 Thank you very much. 1700 01:26:23,262 --> 01:26:26,765 - I think that Bobby Kennedy himself knew 1701 01:26:26,892 --> 01:26:30,520 in early 1968 when he fatefully decides 1702 01:26:30,645 --> 01:26:32,605 that he must run for president, 1703 01:26:32,730 --> 01:26:37,318 that he was doing so under a great cloud, 1704 01:26:37,443 --> 01:26:41,655 that he was doing so at risk to his own life. 1705 01:26:41,780 --> 01:26:45,452 And imagine the courage that it took for Bobby Kennedy 1706 01:26:45,577 --> 01:26:50,122 to plunge into the crowds during the 1968 campaign, 1707 01:26:50,248 --> 01:26:53,042 again and again putting himself in danger. 1708 01:26:53,668 --> 01:26:54,627 And why does he do this? 1709 01:26:54,752 --> 01:26:56,753 Because he thinks the country 1710 01:26:56,878 --> 01:26:59,173 is so mortally wounded at this point, 1711 01:26:59,298 --> 01:27:03,093 is in such a suffering place after years of war, 1712 01:27:03,218 --> 01:27:06,513 and rioting in its inner cities, of racial strife, 1713 01:27:06,847 --> 01:27:10,435 that he alone knows that he's probably the only candidate 1714 01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:12,228 who can heal the country, 1715 01:27:12,353 --> 01:27:14,688 so he takes this burden on his shoulders. 1716 01:27:15,273 --> 01:27:17,192 - When Robert Kennedy came into the race, 1717 01:27:17,317 --> 01:27:18,610 people didn't really give him a chance 1718 01:27:18,735 --> 01:27:22,155 and there was a lot of resentment and opposition, 1719 01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,615 but he began to win the primaries. 1720 01:27:24,740 --> 01:27:26,783 For example, he went to South Dakota 1721 01:27:26,908 --> 01:27:30,872 and there he spent time with the Lakota Sioux 1722 01:27:30,997 --> 01:27:32,623 on the Pine Ridge reservation. 1723 01:27:33,625 --> 01:27:35,502 - My father took us to Indian reservations 1724 01:27:35,627 --> 01:27:36,918 everywhere we went. 1725 01:27:37,045 --> 01:27:39,672 -Because he wanted you to see the poverty 1726 01:27:39,797 --> 01:27:41,882 or he wanted to see a different way of life? 1727 01:27:42,008 --> 01:27:44,052 -He was just interested in Indians 1728 01:27:44,177 --> 01:27:47,972 and he felt, he really believed America was an exemplary nation, 1729 01:27:48,097 --> 01:27:50,308 that we were the world's exemplary democracy. 1730 01:27:50,892 --> 01:27:55,145 But that we'd never live up to the promise of our nation 1731 01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:58,858 if we didn't go back and redress the original sin of America, 1732 01:27:58,983 --> 01:28:02,903 which was the genocide of the Native Americans. 1733 01:28:03,028 --> 01:28:08,660 So he was concerned about the way that they lived 1734 01:28:08,785 --> 01:28:10,578 and the poverty. 1735 01:28:11,620 --> 01:28:13,622 - That these conditions can be allowed 1736 01:28:13,748 --> 01:28:16,708 to prevail among a people uniquely entitled 1737 01:28:16,833 --> 01:28:19,545 to call themselves the First Americans. 1738 01:28:19,670 --> 01:28:23,465 A people whose civilization flourished here for centuries, 1739 01:28:23,590 --> 01:28:25,968 before the name America was thought of, 1740 01:28:26,093 --> 01:28:29,555 this is nothing less than a national disgrace, 1741 01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,600 -And he's bestowed upon him 1742 01:28:33,225 --> 01:28:37,272 an honored chief of the American Indians. 1743 01:28:44,028 --> 01:28:47,240 - When he was on that Sioux reservation in 1968, 1744 01:28:47,365 --> 01:28:51,743 there was 20,000 white people waiting for him in Rapid City, 1745 01:28:51,868 --> 01:28:53,578 and they waited for about eight hours 1746 01:28:53,705 --> 01:28:56,415 and his aides kept saying, you got to go there. 1747 01:28:56,540 --> 01:28:57,875 The Indians don't vote anyway. 1748 01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,043 And my father was saying, I'm staying here. 1749 01:29:00,962 --> 01:29:03,715 And he spent the day at the reservation 1750 01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,425 and didn't get to Rapid City until the evening, 1751 01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,095 and he won the state of South Dakota 1752 01:29:09,762 --> 01:29:12,057 and he largely won because it was the first time 1753 01:29:12,182 --> 01:29:13,515 there was a massive Indian vote 1754 01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,060 and he got almost a 100% of the vote. 1755 01:29:16,685 --> 01:29:18,855 So he won the most rural state in the country, 1756 01:29:18,980 --> 01:29:21,065 which was South Dakota and the most urban state. 1757 01:29:21,190 --> 01:29:24,235 So he had succeeded in bridging the divide. 1758 01:29:26,987 --> 01:29:29,782 - Bobby Kennedy had a brief and shining moment 1759 01:29:29,907 --> 01:29:31,033 where if he had won, 1760 01:29:31,158 --> 01:29:32,535 if he'd been elected, 1761 01:29:32,660 --> 01:29:34,995 he could have brought the country together. 1762 01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,207 During the campaign he would tell people, 1763 01:29:37,332 --> 01:29:39,750 yes, I don't believe the Warren Report. 1764 01:29:39,875 --> 01:29:42,712 Yes, I'm going to reopen the assassination case. 1765 01:29:42,837 --> 01:29:45,465 - Would you welcome a reopening of the investigation 1766 01:29:45,590 --> 01:29:47,425 into President Kennedy's death? 1767 01:29:47,550 --> 01:29:48,968 -Well, I don't see that 1768 01:29:49,093 --> 01:29:52,305 if there isn't any new evidence to consider, 1769 01:29:52,430 --> 01:29:54,015 you'd ever get away from the idea 1770 01:29:54,140 --> 01:29:55,475 that maybe there was a plot. 1771 01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,143 We just didn't find any traces of it. 1772 01:29:58,937 --> 01:30:01,938 - All the forces he felt had killed JFK 1773 01:30:02,063 --> 01:30:05,275 could not allow Bobby Kennedy to become president 1774 01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:08,028 because he was going to be coming after them then, 1775 01:30:08,570 --> 01:30:10,573 with the full power of the federal government. 1776 01:30:12,992 --> 01:30:14,910 - This meant that Kennedy had to go. 1777 01:30:17,163 --> 01:30:18,790 - Senator Kennedy is going down now 1778 01:30:18,915 --> 01:30:22,960 to address his supporters as McCarthy did a short while ago. 1779 01:30:23,085 --> 01:30:25,630 Rafer Johnson, the Olympic decathlon winner, 1780 01:30:25,755 --> 01:30:27,257 is on one side of him there. 1781 01:30:27,382 --> 01:30:29,550 He's been acting as a bodyguard. 1782 01:30:30,342 --> 01:30:33,178 Now he's advancing towards the ballroom 1783 01:30:33,303 --> 01:30:36,348 where he will talk to his campaign workers 1784 01:30:36,473 --> 01:30:37,642 from California. 1785 01:30:41,062 --> 01:30:43,063 - Here he is now, he's entering the ballroom 1786 01:30:43,188 --> 01:30:45,650 and you can hear the cheers from his supporters. 1787 01:30:49,820 --> 01:30:51,280 - So Bobby Kennedy, 1788 01:30:51,405 --> 01:30:54,242 I'm sad to say, his days are numbered 1789 01:30:54,367 --> 01:30:56,285 from the moment he announces for president. 1790 01:30:56,410 --> 01:30:58,955 In fact, Jackie Kennedy told him this. 1791 01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:03,417 Jackie Kennedy told him she was crushed by his decision 1792 01:31:03,542 --> 01:31:06,045 and she said, "Bobby, the same people who killed Jack 1793 01:31:06,170 --> 01:31:07,172 are going to kill the you." 1794 01:31:27,692 --> 01:31:29,443 Kennedy has been shot. 1795 01:31:29,568 --> 01:31:30,862 They think Kennedy has been shot, 1796 01:31:31,570 --> 01:31:32,863 appeared to be gunshots 1797 01:31:33,907 --> 01:31:36,408 in a little room off to the side. 1798 01:31:36,533 --> 01:31:38,035 I was near the Senator. 1799 01:31:38,660 --> 01:31:39,537 What appeared-- 1800 01:31:39,662 --> 01:31:41,205 what appeared to be gunshots 1801 01:31:41,330 --> 01:31:44,208 coming from inside this room in here. 1802 01:31:44,333 --> 01:31:46,335 I'm not... Keep me plugged in. 1803 01:31:47,337 --> 01:31:48,880 There's a great deal of blood. 1804 01:31:49,005 --> 01:31:50,505 Keep me plugged in. 1805 01:31:53,675 --> 01:31:54,718 We don't know what-- 1806 01:31:54,843 --> 01:31:57,053 - Move back, please! 1807 01:31:57,178 --> 01:31:59,307 - Oh, someone else was shot. 1808 01:31:59,432 --> 01:32:00,600 Someone else was shot. 1809 01:32:00,725 --> 01:32:02,227 We had another person who was next to Kennedy 1810 01:32:02,352 --> 01:32:03,895 who was shot in the forehead. 1811 01:32:04,020 --> 01:32:05,353 She's bleeding badly. 1812 01:32:06,397 --> 01:32:08,607 Another person is shot near Kennedy. 1813 01:32:08,732 --> 01:32:09,650 It's mass chaos here. 1814 01:32:09,775 --> 01:32:11,193 We did hear gunfire from in the hallway, 1815 01:32:11,318 --> 01:32:12,445 there are people running everywhere. 1816 01:32:12,570 --> 01:32:14,488 - The individual we have in custody 1817 01:32:14,613 --> 01:32:16,490 is Sirhan Sirhan. 1818 01:32:21,203 --> 01:32:22,288 I don't know how many times 1819 01:32:22,413 --> 01:32:23,580 the Senator was shot. 1820 01:32:23,705 --> 01:32:25,792 His blood is still here on the floor. 1821 01:32:29,045 --> 01:32:30,880 Senator Robert Francis Kennedy 1822 01:32:32,340 --> 01:32:37,345 died at 1:44 AM, today 1823 01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:42,433 June 6th, 1968. 1824 01:32:49,607 --> 01:32:51,483 Now, I want to ask you 1825 01:32:51,608 --> 01:32:53,987 about your father's assassination. 1826 01:32:54,945 --> 01:32:57,072 And what do you make of it? 1827 01:32:58,907 --> 01:33:01,785 - I always assumed that my dad's murder 1828 01:33:01,910 --> 01:33:03,870 was pretty straightforward 1829 01:33:04,830 --> 01:33:07,248 because Sirhan confessed to the murder. 1830 01:33:07,792 --> 01:33:09,960 There were 77 eyewitnesses 1831 01:33:10,085 --> 01:33:12,422 and many people, at least a dozen, 1832 01:33:12,547 --> 01:33:16,008 testified that they'd seen him firing the shots at my dad. 1833 01:33:17,008 --> 01:33:19,470 Paul Schrade, who was a very close friend of my father, 1834 01:33:19,595 --> 01:33:24,017 a very, very compassionate, determined labor organizer. 1835 01:33:24,142 --> 01:33:26,393 He was standing beside my father, 1836 01:33:26,518 --> 01:33:27,687 maybe a foot behind him 1837 01:33:27,812 --> 01:33:31,148 as they walked into the Ambassador Hotel kitchen. 1838 01:33:31,273 --> 01:33:34,568 And the first of the shots at my father 1839 01:33:34,693 --> 01:33:38,947 had hit Paul Schrade and he had fallen down. 1840 01:33:39,073 --> 01:33:41,283 He survived. 1841 01:33:41,408 --> 01:33:42,493 It's a great personal tragedy 1842 01:33:42,618 --> 01:33:45,495 because Bob Kennedy was a very close friend of mine 1843 01:33:45,620 --> 01:33:49,500 and I, not only as a friend, 1844 01:33:49,625 --> 01:33:52,210 but expected him to be a great president. 1845 01:33:52,337 --> 01:33:55,213 And then probably 15 years ago, 1846 01:33:55,338 --> 01:33:58,008 Paul Schade, he called me and he said, 1847 01:33:58,133 --> 01:33:59,427 "I want you to come to my house 1848 01:33:59,552 --> 01:34:01,470 and read your dad's autopsy report." 1849 01:34:01,595 --> 01:34:03,638 And I said, "That's the last thing in the world 1850 01:34:03,763 --> 01:34:05,140 that I want to do." 1851 01:34:06,308 --> 01:34:09,687 And he said, "I'm asking you and I need you to do this." 1852 01:34:09,812 --> 01:34:13,648 And because of the role that he played in my father's life 1853 01:34:13,773 --> 01:34:16,360 and because he had taken a bullet for my father, 1854 01:34:17,110 --> 01:34:19,197 I felt like I couldn't say no to him. 1855 01:34:19,322 --> 01:34:23,825 So I went to his home and I sat at his kitchen table 1856 01:34:23,950 --> 01:34:25,618 and I read that autopsy report 1857 01:34:25,745 --> 01:34:28,038 and it was transformative for me 1858 01:34:28,163 --> 01:34:30,875 because anybody who reads that report 1859 01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,087 will understand that Sirhan could not have killed my father. 1860 01:34:36,297 --> 01:34:39,383 - Final totals will be Kennedy 48%, 1861 01:34:39,508 --> 01:34:42,093 Senator McCarthy 41%. 1862 01:34:42,218 --> 01:34:43,928 - The mainstream narrative of June 4th 1863 01:34:44,055 --> 01:34:47,265 is that Kennedy wins the primary. 1864 01:34:47,808 --> 01:34:50,393 He goes down to the embassy ballroom 1865 01:34:50,518 --> 01:34:52,730 and gives his acceptance speech. 1866 01:34:52,855 --> 01:34:54,022 My thanks to all of you. 1867 01:34:54,148 --> 01:34:56,275 And now it's on to Chicago and let's win there. 1868 01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:57,402 Thank you very much. 1869 01:34:57,527 --> 01:34:58,443 - At that point, 1870 01:34:58,568 --> 01:35:00,738 he walks off the back of the stage 1871 01:35:00,863 --> 01:35:03,490 and walks through the pantry. 1872 01:35:03,615 --> 01:35:05,242 The cameras are all off at this point 1873 01:35:05,367 --> 01:35:06,952 because the event is over. 1874 01:35:08,037 --> 01:35:09,955 There are busboys in the pantry. 1875 01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,333 There are some campaign hangers on, there's staff. 1876 01:35:13,458 --> 01:35:16,378 And Sirhan steps out, pulls out a gun, 1877 01:35:16,503 --> 01:35:18,088 starts firing at Kennedy. 1878 01:35:18,213 --> 01:35:20,257 -And Syrian fired two shots of my dad. 1879 01:35:20,382 --> 01:35:22,718 And then he was grabbed by Rafer Johnson, 1880 01:35:22,843 --> 01:35:24,762 Rosie Greer, and four other guys. 1881 01:35:24,887 --> 01:35:26,597 So six people altogether. 1882 01:35:26,722 --> 01:35:28,890 And I talked to Rafer about this. 1883 01:35:29,015 --> 01:35:32,728 Rafer was a gold medal decathlon champion in 1960. 1884 01:35:32,853 --> 01:35:34,855 Very close friend of my father. 1885 01:35:34,980 --> 01:35:38,733 Rafer told me they bent Sirhan over the steam table. 1886 01:35:38,858 --> 01:35:39,693 - I'm right here. 1887 01:35:39,818 --> 01:35:41,403 Rafer Johnson has a hold of a man 1888 01:35:42,112 --> 01:35:45,323 who apparently has fired the shots. 1889 01:35:45,448 --> 01:35:47,200 He has fired the shots. He still has the gun. 1890 01:35:47,325 --> 01:35:49,245 The gun is pointed at me right at this moment. 1891 01:35:49,912 --> 01:35:51,705 That's it, Rafer, get it! 1892 01:35:51,830 --> 01:35:53,082 Get the gun Rafer! 1893 01:35:53,790 --> 01:35:55,625 Okay, now hold onto the guy! 1894 01:35:55,750 --> 01:35:56,627 Hold onto him! 1895 01:35:56,752 --> 01:35:59,380 Take a hold of his thumb and break it if you have to! 1896 01:35:59,505 --> 01:36:00,713 Get his thumb! 1897 01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:02,592 Rafer took the gun hand 1898 01:36:02,717 --> 01:36:04,760 and pointed the gun away from my father. 1899 01:36:04,885 --> 01:36:10,515 And Sirhan then was able to fire off six other shots 1900 01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:12,852 in the opposite direction from my father 1901 01:36:12,977 --> 01:36:14,395 and emptied the magazine. 1902 01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,772 - Hold him Rafer! We don't want another Oswald! 1903 01:36:17,482 --> 01:36:19,858 Hold him, Rafer, keep people away from him! 1904 01:36:19,983 --> 01:36:20,943 - And the witnesses again, 1905 01:36:21,068 --> 01:36:22,027 who saw them both 1906 01:36:22,152 --> 01:36:24,947 and were in a good position to judge distance, 1907 01:36:25,072 --> 01:36:29,202 put the gun muzzle about three feet in front of Kennedy. 1908 01:36:29,743 --> 01:36:32,328 Then we cut to the autopsy report 1909 01:36:32,453 --> 01:36:34,415 and the coroner, Thomas Noguchi, 1910 01:36:34,540 --> 01:36:36,583 a very competent coroner 1911 01:36:36,708 --> 01:36:39,753 who'd done many famous cases including Marilyn Monroe 1912 01:36:39,878 --> 01:36:43,090 and Natalie Wood and other celebrities. 1913 01:36:43,215 --> 01:36:46,093 He was given the body of RFK 1914 01:36:46,218 --> 01:36:48,012 and it was clear to him immediately 1915 01:36:48,137 --> 01:36:50,848 as it was to the police because they saw the body. 1916 01:36:50,973 --> 01:36:53,975 Kennedy had been shot from behind the right ear. 1917 01:36:54,100 --> 01:36:55,853 He had not been shot from the front. 1918 01:36:57,103 --> 01:36:58,105 The shots that hit my father-- 1919 01:36:58,230 --> 01:36:59,648 there were four, 1920 01:37:00,065 --> 01:37:02,192 all of them were from behind. 1921 01:37:03,277 --> 01:37:04,945 One of them went harmlessly 1922 01:37:05,070 --> 01:37:07,657 through the shoulder pad of his jacket. 1923 01:37:08,323 --> 01:37:09,992 Two of 'em went into his back 1924 01:37:10,325 --> 01:37:12,452 and one of 'em went into the back of his head, 1925 01:37:13,412 --> 01:37:15,330 which was the shot that killed him. 1926 01:37:15,455 --> 01:37:18,042 And Noguchi says that all of those shots 1927 01:37:18,167 --> 01:37:19,585 were contact shots, 1928 01:37:19,710 --> 01:37:22,337 meaning they left a carbon tattoo 1929 01:37:22,462 --> 01:37:24,088 on my father's skin, 1930 01:37:25,048 --> 01:37:26,883 which means that the barrel 1931 01:37:27,008 --> 01:37:29,720 could not have been more than a half an inch from his body. 1932 01:37:29,845 --> 01:37:32,640 The muzzle distance would be 1933 01:37:34,225 --> 01:37:38,687 one inch from the right ear 1934 01:37:38,812 --> 01:37:42,190 and no more than three inches. 1935 01:37:42,315 --> 01:37:43,983 - And the Sirhan was never behind him 1936 01:37:44,108 --> 01:37:46,445 and never got that close to him. 1937 01:37:46,570 --> 01:37:49,113 - So how do you reconcile three feet from in front 1938 01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,700 with an inch and a half from behind? 1939 01:37:51,825 --> 01:37:53,452 And you don't. 1940 01:37:53,577 --> 01:37:56,580 -My father appears to have known 1941 01:37:56,705 --> 01:37:58,373 that he was being shot from behind 1942 01:37:58,498 --> 01:38:02,085 because the last thing he did was twist around 1943 01:38:02,210 --> 01:38:07,132 and tear off the tie of the security guard behind him. 1944 01:38:07,465 --> 01:38:09,217 The early pictures of my father 1945 01:38:09,343 --> 01:38:10,802 show my father lying on the ground 1946 01:38:10,928 --> 01:38:12,178 with the clip on tie. 1947 01:38:13,222 --> 01:38:15,265 From day one from moment one, 1948 01:38:15,390 --> 01:38:20,020 Sirhan claimed he did not know what happened in the pantry. 1949 01:38:20,145 --> 01:38:22,940 The police asked him questions like, is this your car? 1950 01:38:23,065 --> 01:38:24,692 He's like, I don't know. 1951 01:38:24,817 --> 01:38:25,943 They said, what's your name? 1952 01:38:26,068 --> 01:38:27,987 He was completely silent. 1953 01:38:28,778 --> 01:38:32,992 And so as one of the DA's assistants is talking to him, 1954 01:38:33,117 --> 01:38:34,952 he stops himself midsentence, he's like, 1955 01:38:35,077 --> 01:38:36,203 do you know where you are? 1956 01:38:36,328 --> 01:38:38,413 Do you know what you've been charged with? 1957 01:38:38,538 --> 01:38:40,958 He knew Sirhan wasn't processing 1958 01:38:41,083 --> 01:38:43,085 like a normal person would process. 1959 01:38:43,210 --> 01:38:44,168 Do you remember anything? 1960 01:38:44,295 --> 01:38:45,128 -No, no, no. 1961 01:38:45,253 --> 01:38:47,632 I don't remember much what happened after that. 1962 01:38:47,757 --> 01:38:48,632 - You don't remember much about that. 1963 01:38:48,757 --> 01:38:49,842 I don't remember. 1964 01:38:50,675 --> 01:38:52,552 - And there are 12 points of entry 1965 01:38:52,678 --> 01:38:55,722 for the eight bullets Sirhan's gun could have held. 1966 01:38:56,473 --> 01:38:58,683 Two bullets were removed from Kennedy. 1967 01:38:59,435 --> 01:39:02,103 Five other people had bullets removed from them. 1968 01:39:02,980 --> 01:39:06,358 - Five people, including Paul Schrade. 1969 01:39:06,858 --> 01:39:09,862 - But there are still at least five more bullet holes 1970 01:39:09,987 --> 01:39:14,408 pictured from FBI photos and an AP photo. 1971 01:39:15,700 --> 01:39:18,203 - And in the chaos of what happened there, 1972 01:39:18,328 --> 01:39:20,998 people didn't initially question the fact that there was 1973 01:39:21,123 --> 01:39:22,833 a recently-employed security guard 1974 01:39:22,958 --> 01:39:24,960 standing behind Robert Kennedy. 1975 01:39:25,335 --> 01:39:29,005 - Thane Eugene Cesar had joined a security company 1976 01:39:29,130 --> 01:39:31,758 only a week earlier who were running security 1977 01:39:31,883 --> 01:39:34,470 for the event that night at the hotel. 1978 01:39:34,595 --> 01:39:39,433 And Thane Cesar also was moonlighting for Lockheed, 1979 01:39:39,558 --> 01:39:42,895 who was also working as a bodyguard for Howard Hughes. 1980 01:39:43,020 --> 01:39:46,648 And I went through some public records databases. 1981 01:39:46,773 --> 01:39:50,777 The only employer Cesar ever listed was the CIA. 1982 01:39:50,902 --> 01:39:54,072 So you've got this CIA guy at Kennedy's elbow. 1983 01:39:54,197 --> 01:39:55,198 He's six foot two. 1984 01:39:55,323 --> 01:39:56,783 He's stocky. 1985 01:39:56,908 --> 01:40:01,163 And he's literally holding Kennedy's right arm 1986 01:40:01,288 --> 01:40:04,123 with his left hand if he's right-handed, 1987 01:40:04,248 --> 01:40:07,293 and he is, no one is in a better position to shoot Kennedy 1988 01:40:07,418 --> 01:40:09,380 under the arm than Thane Cesar. 1989 01:40:09,505 --> 01:40:11,090 He's right there. 1990 01:40:11,215 --> 01:40:14,718 - Cesar steered to my father into the kitchen, 1991 01:40:14,843 --> 01:40:16,137 and when he was shot, 1992 01:40:16,262 --> 01:40:21,558 my father fell on top of Cesar and Cesar fell as well, 1993 01:40:21,683 --> 01:40:24,352 and then pushed my father off him and stood up. 1994 01:40:24,478 --> 01:40:25,687 And he had his gun drawn, 1995 01:40:25,812 --> 01:40:29,400 which was visible to numerous witnesses. 1996 01:40:30,358 --> 01:40:34,237 And Cesar later suggested 1997 01:40:34,362 --> 01:40:36,865 that maybe he had pulled his gun 1998 01:40:36,990 --> 01:40:39,827 to shoot at Sirhan, 1999 01:40:41,078 --> 01:40:43,955 but the gun was never taken by the police. 2000 01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:45,623 - At the time, Bobby had planned 2001 01:40:45,748 --> 01:40:47,752 to go to the Philippines 2002 01:40:47,877 --> 01:40:50,045 to speak with than Eugene Cesar, 2003 01:40:50,170 --> 01:40:53,215 who quite possibly fired the shots 2004 01:40:53,340 --> 01:40:56,260 that assassinated the senator. 2005 01:40:56,385 --> 01:40:59,012 And Cesar said, "Yeah, I could do that, 2006 01:40:59,137 --> 01:41:01,055 but you're going to have to pay me--" 2007 01:41:01,182 --> 01:41:02,682 I don't know, I think it was $30,000, 2008 01:41:02,808 --> 01:41:03,808 something like that. 2009 01:41:04,602 --> 01:41:05,810 It didn't happen. 2010 01:41:05,935 --> 01:41:08,105 Cesar backed out at the last minute 2011 01:41:08,230 --> 01:41:09,940 and he has since died. 2012 01:41:11,150 --> 01:41:12,275 -It's a dirty story. 2013 01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:14,318 But you went to see Sirhan. 2014 01:41:14,445 --> 01:41:16,863 - Yeah, it's occurred to me, 2015 01:41:16,988 --> 01:41:19,407 although I don't have evidence, 2016 01:41:19,533 --> 01:41:25,330 definitive evidence for this, that Sirhan was a distractor. 2017 01:41:25,455 --> 01:41:28,958 He believes that he was hypnotized. 2018 01:41:29,710 --> 01:41:32,503 -I don't remember aiming at any human being. 2019 01:41:32,628 --> 01:41:34,590 I don't remember any of that. 2020 01:41:35,715 --> 01:41:38,010 I've said that from the get-go. 2021 01:41:38,843 --> 01:41:42,263 The doctor said that I was in a dissociated state. 2022 01:41:42,807 --> 01:41:45,892 - During the course of my own investigation, 2023 01:41:46,017 --> 01:41:51,565 I got a hold of the CIA training manual for MK Ultra. 2024 01:41:52,148 --> 01:41:54,275 It was about developing a Manchurian candidate 2025 01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:57,778 and using hypnosis and psychoactive drugs. 2026 01:41:59,155 --> 01:42:02,325 And one of the interesting things it says in there is 2027 01:42:02,450 --> 01:42:05,287 it says it's very difficult 2028 01:42:05,412 --> 01:42:09,625 to reliably train somebody 2029 01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:11,877 to be an unwilling assassin 2030 01:42:12,837 --> 01:42:15,297 and that it may take years of training, 2031 01:42:15,422 --> 01:42:19,050 but that you can train a distractor 2032 01:42:19,843 --> 01:42:22,095 within a couple of months. 2033 01:42:23,347 --> 01:42:25,515 And a distractor would be the person 2034 01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:28,102 who would be visibly firing the shots 2035 01:42:28,227 --> 01:42:32,272 while the real killer was actually firing the kill shots. 2036 01:42:32,397 --> 01:42:35,317 -If that isn't the template for what happened in the pantry, 2037 01:42:35,442 --> 01:42:36,777 I don't know what is. 2038 01:42:36,902 --> 01:42:40,197 So again, they didn't have time to train Sirhan 2039 01:42:40,322 --> 01:42:44,075 to be a skilled assassin in that short of time, 2040 01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,828 but they did have time to train him to be a patsy. 2041 01:42:47,162 --> 01:42:48,663 - I don't remember. 2042 01:42:48,788 --> 01:42:53,793 I'm not saying that to be dismissive of my responsibility, 2043 01:42:53,918 --> 01:42:55,795 but that is really what happened. 2044 01:42:56,170 --> 01:42:58,298 - When you're in the hypnotic state, 2045 01:42:58,423 --> 01:43:00,633 sometimes the memory is not being recorded 2046 01:43:00,758 --> 01:43:02,385 or it's recorded, but it's locked away 2047 01:43:02,510 --> 01:43:05,972 and you can only retrieve it in a hypnotic state. 2048 01:43:06,097 --> 01:43:09,017 And so Sirhan's own defense team had hypnotized him 2049 01:43:09,142 --> 01:43:12,520 to try to get him to remember what happened in the pantry. 2050 01:43:18,902 --> 01:43:21,405 - And it turned out that what Sirhan remembered 2051 01:43:21,530 --> 01:43:24,282 from that night in hypnosis was meeting 2052 01:43:24,407 --> 01:43:27,327 a very attractive girl in a polka dot dress. 2053 01:43:35,668 --> 01:43:36,920 He remembers her taking him 2054 01:43:37,045 --> 01:43:38,922 to the center in the pantry. 2055 01:43:51,058 --> 01:43:52,852 - The choking is almost killing him. 2056 01:43:52,978 --> 01:43:55,022 So that almost brings him out of hypnosis. 2057 01:43:55,147 --> 01:43:59,108 No recollection of Robert Kennedy at all there. 2058 01:43:59,943 --> 01:44:01,945 There were witnesses who saw this girl 2059 01:44:02,070 --> 01:44:04,280 that Sirhan remembered seeing under hypnosis. 2060 01:44:04,405 --> 01:44:06,283 One of them was Sandy Serrano. 2061 01:44:06,408 --> 01:44:07,867 Everybody was in the main room, 2062 01:44:07,993 --> 01:44:09,285 you know, listening to him speak, 2063 01:44:09,410 --> 01:44:10,245 and it was too hot. 2064 01:44:10,370 --> 01:44:12,872 So I went outside and I was out on the terrace. 2065 01:44:12,998 --> 01:44:16,293 Then this girl came running down the stairs in the back. 2066 01:44:16,418 --> 01:44:18,212 I can remember what she had on and everything. 2067 01:44:18,337 --> 01:44:20,547 She had on a white dress with polka dots. 2068 01:44:21,507 --> 01:44:23,425 She came running down the stairs and said, 2069 01:44:23,550 --> 01:44:25,760 "We've shot him, we've shot him." 2070 01:44:26,010 --> 01:44:28,180 And I said, "Who did you shoot?" 2071 01:44:28,305 --> 01:44:30,807 And she says, "We’ve shot Senator Kennedy." 2072 01:44:31,433 --> 01:44:33,393 - Sandy's obviously distressed. 2073 01:44:33,518 --> 01:44:35,228 So what did the police do? 2074 01:44:35,353 --> 01:44:39,148 Hank Hernandez and Manny Pena were the two people 2075 01:44:39,273 --> 01:44:42,568 at the LAPD charged with the conspiracy investigation. 2076 01:44:42,693 --> 01:44:45,738 However, both of them had former intelligence backgrounds 2077 01:44:45,863 --> 01:44:47,615 and ties to the CIA. 2078 01:44:47,740 --> 01:44:49,785 They interviewed her multiple times 2079 01:44:49,910 --> 01:44:51,828 and she wasn't changing her story. 2080 01:44:51,953 --> 01:44:54,957 So Hank Hernandez runs what can only be called 2081 01:44:55,082 --> 01:44:57,500 psychological warfare against her. 2082 01:45:18,230 --> 01:45:20,482 - Eventually she's like, I don't know. 2083 01:45:20,607 --> 01:45:22,233 Maybe I misheard. 2084 01:45:22,358 --> 01:45:24,903 And that's how they shut down that angle. 2085 01:45:26,863 --> 01:45:31,075 However, the topic of hypnosis and mind control was so powerful 2086 01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:34,120 and so sensitive that when Nixon fired Helms 2087 01:45:34,245 --> 01:45:36,665 after the whole Watergate debacle, 2088 01:45:36,790 --> 01:45:38,792 Helms on his way out of the agency, 2089 01:45:38,917 --> 01:45:40,377 the one thing he asked them to destroy 2090 01:45:40,502 --> 01:45:42,628 was all the MK Ultra files. 2091 01:45:43,213 --> 01:45:45,215 That leads you to conclude what? 2092 01:45:45,882 --> 01:45:48,093 -My opinion is really irrelevant. 2093 01:45:48,218 --> 01:45:51,012 What's important is what the facts say. 2094 01:45:51,137 --> 01:45:55,183 I've asked for a reinvestigation of the murder. 2095 01:46:33,180 --> 01:46:35,640 - Six of Senator Robert Kennedy's, ten children 2096 01:46:35,765 --> 01:46:36,808 had been with him in California. 2097 01:46:36,933 --> 01:46:39,812 They were flown back late today aboard a government plane. 2098 01:46:49,695 --> 01:46:51,448 The tragedy and senseless violence 2099 01:46:51,573 --> 01:46:53,032 of Robert F. Kennedy's death 2100 01:46:53,158 --> 01:46:55,952 casts a deep shadow of grief across America 2101 01:46:56,077 --> 01:46:57,745 and across the world. 2102 01:46:59,247 --> 01:47:02,292 The presidential proclamation went on to declare Sunday 2103 01:47:02,417 --> 01:47:04,920 as a national day of mourning 2104 01:47:05,045 --> 01:47:07,380 over the death of Senator Robert Kennedy. 2105 01:47:11,300 --> 01:47:14,512 - The senator's body was flown back to New York, 2106 01:47:14,637 --> 01:47:18,433 and then there was a train ride that took him 2107 01:47:19,142 --> 01:47:22,020 to Arlington Cemetery to be buried beside his brother. 2108 01:47:22,812 --> 01:47:24,857 And Bobby Jr. said that he would never forget 2109 01:47:24,982 --> 01:47:27,400 looking out that train window 2110 01:47:28,152 --> 01:47:31,613 at the thousands of people gathered 2111 01:47:31,738 --> 01:47:33,948 to pay homage to his father. 2112 01:47:38,537 --> 01:47:41,582 Bobby Jr. spent some time in the office 2113 01:47:41,707 --> 01:47:43,583 that his father sometimes used, 2114 01:47:44,458 --> 01:47:45,960 and he looked around at the walls 2115 01:47:46,085 --> 01:47:49,505 and there were all these photographs of Kennedys 2116 01:47:49,630 --> 01:47:52,092 and Kennedy relatives, 2117 01:47:52,217 --> 01:47:55,262 including his Uncle Joe, who he never knew 2118 01:47:55,387 --> 01:47:57,263 because he was killed during World War II. 2119 01:47:57,888 --> 01:48:00,225 An Aunt Kick that he never knew either 2120 01:48:00,350 --> 01:48:03,143 because she was killed in a plane crash 2121 01:48:03,270 --> 01:48:04,687 in the late 1940s, 2122 01:48:06,313 --> 01:48:09,692 and he realized they're all dead. 2123 01:48:12,195 --> 01:48:14,447 My brother need not be idealized 2124 01:48:15,407 --> 01:48:18,535 or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life, 2125 01:48:19,785 --> 01:48:22,455 to be remembered simply as a good and decent man 2126 01:48:24,082 --> 01:48:26,292 who saw wrong and tried to right it, 2127 01:48:27,543 --> 01:48:29,963 saw suffering and tried to heal it, 2128 01:48:30,755 --> 01:48:33,258 saw a war and tried to stop it. 2129 01:48:35,427 --> 01:48:39,555 As he said many times in many parts of this nation, 2130 01:48:41,223 --> 01:48:44,685 some men see things as they are and say, “Why?” 2131 01:48:45,687 --> 01:48:48,982 I dream things that never were and say, “Why not?” 2132 01:49:07,708 --> 01:49:09,585 - My father, he would give me things to read 2133 01:49:09,710 --> 01:49:11,212 all the time and poems 2134 01:49:11,337 --> 01:49:12,755 and books, et cetera. 2135 01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,092 It was about a couple of weeks before he died 2136 01:49:15,217 --> 01:49:18,387 and he said to me, with this unusual intensity, 2137 01:49:19,470 --> 01:49:23,057 I want you to read this book called The Plague. 2138 01:49:23,517 --> 01:49:27,895 The book is about a doctor who is in a quarantine city 2139 01:49:28,020 --> 01:49:29,313 in North Africa, 2140 01:49:29,438 --> 01:49:31,608 and there's a plague raging through the city, 2141 01:49:31,733 --> 01:49:33,025 and nobody can go in or out 2142 01:49:33,150 --> 01:49:35,028 and it doesn't tell what the name of the plague is, 2143 01:49:35,153 --> 01:49:37,780 and nobody knows, but everybody is dying. 2144 01:49:38,407 --> 01:49:39,950 And a lot of the beginning of the book 2145 01:49:40,075 --> 01:49:42,993 is a conversation that this doctor is having with himself 2146 01:49:43,118 --> 01:49:46,080 about whether he should venture out of his apartment 2147 01:49:46,205 --> 01:49:50,002 because he knows that if he goes to help people, 2148 01:49:50,127 --> 01:49:51,712 he's highly likely to die 2149 01:49:51,837 --> 01:49:54,630 and very unlikely to be able to help anybody 2150 01:49:55,298 --> 01:49:57,425 because nobody knows how to help. 2151 01:49:58,092 --> 01:50:02,930 In the end, he goes out and does his duty 2152 01:50:03,055 --> 01:50:04,723 and consoles people, 2153 01:50:04,848 --> 01:50:08,185 does the best he can to bring comfort to people. 2154 01:50:10,438 --> 01:50:15,277 And so after he died, I read the book several times 2155 01:50:15,402 --> 01:50:19,197 trying to unlock the key 2156 01:50:19,322 --> 01:50:22,242 of what message he had been trying to tell me. 2157 01:50:23,743 --> 01:50:26,245 This doctor, he accepted his burden 2158 01:50:26,955 --> 01:50:28,540 and he did his duty. 2159 01:50:28,665 --> 01:50:31,042 And it brings a sense of wellbeing 2160 01:50:31,167 --> 01:50:33,962 that you're doing what you're supposed to do. 2161 01:50:35,005 --> 01:50:37,882 And for me, it makes sense 2162 01:50:38,007 --> 01:50:42,178 because I find that the best way for me to live 2163 01:50:42,887 --> 01:50:46,182 is to make the effort to do the next right thing, 2164 01:50:46,307 --> 01:50:49,352 to get up every morning, say reporting for duty, sir, 2165 01:50:49,977 --> 01:50:51,772 and then let go of the results, 2166 01:50:52,272 --> 01:50:53,898 that the outcome’s in God's hands. 2167 01:50:54,023 --> 01:50:55,608 We do what we're supposed to do. 2168 01:50:55,733 --> 01:50:58,570 But if the boulder needs to roll back on us, 2169 01:50:58,695 --> 01:51:01,530 then that's okay. We'll push it up again. 2170 01:51:09,330 --> 01:51:12,917 - I've come here today to announce my candidacy 2171 01:51:13,042 --> 01:51:14,418 for the Democratic nomination 2172 01:51:14,543 --> 01:51:16,253 for President of the United States. 2173 01:51:27,307 --> 01:51:30,310 It is very painful for me 2174 01:51:30,435 --> 01:51:34,688 to let go of the party of my uncles, my father, 2175 01:51:34,813 --> 01:51:38,358 but I'm here to declare myself an independent candidate. 2176 01:51:48,412 --> 01:51:50,705 Each time that our volunteers 2177 01:51:50,955 --> 01:51:54,250 turned in those towering boxes of signatures needed 2178 01:51:54,375 --> 01:51:55,585 to get on the ballot, 2179 01:51:56,168 --> 01:51:59,963 the DNC dragged us into court in state after state 2180 01:52:00,090 --> 01:52:02,258 attempting to erase their work. 2181 01:52:05,845 --> 01:52:08,848 - Ultimately, the only thing that will save our country 2182 01:52:09,307 --> 01:52:14,145 and our children is if we choose to love our kids 2183 01:52:14,270 --> 01:52:16,105 more than we hate each other. 2184 01:52:21,820 --> 01:52:23,655 - The first thing I've done every morning 2185 01:52:23,780 --> 01:52:28,868 for the past 20 years is to get on my knees and pray to God 2186 01:52:28,993 --> 01:52:31,120 that he would put me in a position 2187 01:52:31,370 --> 01:52:33,832 to end the chronic disease epidemic 2188 01:52:33,957 --> 01:52:36,375 and to help America's children. 2189 01:52:42,465 --> 01:52:44,300 Ours has always been a family 2190 01:52:44,425 --> 01:52:47,262 that has been involved in public service, 2191 01:52:47,387 --> 01:52:49,888 and I look forward to continuing that tradition. 167882

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