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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 0 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Greetings From J E N I S H 1 00:00:15,448 --> 00:00:20,044 The big respect that I profess{practise} to his leadership, mister Presidente... 2 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:25,820 in this unincluded war and stranger... 3 00:00:25,892 --> 00:00:28,986 the first war of the XXIst century. 4 00:00:31,798 --> 00:00:34,926 Good is not known, it did not understand itself well... 5 00:00:35,001 --> 00:00:38,437 it turns out to be difficult to understand{comprise} it to the people... 6 00:00:38,505 --> 00:00:42,236 but I know with certain safety that, with the time... 7 00:00:42,308 --> 00:00:47,143 his contributions they will be registered in the history. 8 00:01:02,629 --> 00:01:04,927 NO END IN SIGHT 9 00:01:25,085 --> 00:01:26,780 THANK YOU, the USA. 10 00:03:01,848 --> 00:03:06,217 We condemn with hardness the criminal action of the forces of the USA. 11 00:03:06,286 --> 00:03:09,653 We are sorry about this catastrophe to hands of the evil. 12 00:03:21,467 --> 00:03:24,493 We demand the execution of the unfaithful Wahabi 13 00:03:24,571 --> 00:03:26,664 that receive support of the USA. 14 00:03:26,739 --> 00:03:28,900 They have been arrested 15 00:03:28,975 --> 00:03:33,071 and admitted his guilt opposite to the presents. 16 00:03:33,146 --> 00:03:36,582 We demand his execution. 17 00:03:38,918 --> 00:03:42,285 On May 1, 2003, the president George W. Bush... 18 00:03:42,355 --> 00:03:46,416 he{she} declared a high place in the operations of combat of Iraq and he{she} said... 19 00:03:46,492 --> 00:03:50,929 " In the war of Iraq, the USA. and our Allied Forces have prevailed ". 20 00:04:16,356 --> 00:04:19,519 Four years later, after 3.000 dead persons... 21 00:04:19,592 --> 00:04:25,497 and 20.000 American injured men, Iraq has disintegrated in the chaos. 22 00:04:25,565 --> 00:04:28,830 Baghdad suffers from ten to fifteen bombings a day... 23 00:04:28,901 --> 00:04:29,901 ADVISER OF IRAQ IN THE OCCUPATION 24 00:04:29,936 --> 00:04:32,370 ... perhaps 50 deceased in act of service... 25 00:04:32,438 --> 00:04:35,168 but I suspect that about that does not speak to himself very much. 26 00:04:35,241 --> 00:04:39,143 Probably, only I came to us a third of what happens actually. 27 00:04:39,212 --> 00:04:42,204 Million Iraqis they have no drinking water... 28 00:04:42,282 --> 00:04:45,740 treatment of residual waters not even electricity from the invasion. 29 00:04:45,818 --> 00:04:47,911 Baghdad, with six million inhabitants... 30 00:04:47,987 --> 00:04:52,185 she has been submitted to a curfew from March, 2006. 31 00:04:52,258 --> 00:04:56,490 More than three million Iraqis they have fled to the nearby countries. 32 00:04:56,562 --> 00:05:01,761 It is estimated that the valuation{charge} of civil deaths it promotes 600.000. 33 00:05:01,834 --> 00:05:04,325 Those who die are lucky... 34 00:05:04,404 --> 00:05:05,404 IRAQI JOURNALIST IN the USA. 35 00:05:05,438 --> 00:05:08,896 but those who live, are dead in life. 36 00:05:08,975 --> 00:05:12,342 The west and the north of Iraq it is controlled by the insurgents. 37 00:05:12,412 --> 00:05:13,572 MANAGER IN BAGHDAD 38 00:05:13,646 --> 00:05:16,615 The rest of Iraq it is controlled by the militias. 39 00:05:16,683 --> 00:05:21,382 Two Moslem principal groups, the majority chi�ta and the minority sun�... 40 00:05:21,454 --> 00:05:23,752 they are more and more conflicting. 41 00:05:24,257 --> 00:05:26,191 They executed them for being sun�es. 42 00:05:26,259 --> 00:05:29,751 We were living together up to today. 43 00:05:29,829 --> 00:05:35,563 It is an Iranian wave against us. An Iranian wave. 44 00:05:35,635 --> 00:05:38,695 We are Moslem. How is it possible? 45 00:05:38,771 --> 00:05:41,638 They say that they are the Army of Mahdi. 46 00:05:41,708 --> 00:05:43,266 Is this what this army does? 47 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:45,436 Look what it has obtained. 48 00:05:45,511 --> 00:05:47,479 Open the shroud{mortise}, that see his face. 49 00:06:14,307 --> 00:06:18,403 From January, 2003 until January, 2005... 50 00:06:18,478 --> 00:06:20,844 I was a president of the National Council of Intelligence. 51 00:06:20,913 --> 00:06:27,341 We write the first estimation national of the state{condition} of rebellion in Iraq. 52 00:06:27,420 --> 00:06:28,944 It was bad news. 53 00:06:29,021 --> 00:06:32,889 It was presenting situations bad, worse and the awful. 54 00:06:32,959 --> 00:06:36,725 The president corrected it of guesswork and his spokesman{spokeswoman} of press... 55 00:06:36,796 --> 00:06:41,233 he{she} corrected it of insecurity and opposition to the government. 56 00:06:41,300 --> 00:06:45,327 What I gave to understand the fact was that the president had not read it. 57 00:06:45,405 --> 00:06:49,364 This is the history of the invasion of Iraq for the USA. 58 00:06:56,015 --> 00:06:58,882 In that many persons they tried to save a nation. 59 00:07:13,132 --> 00:07:17,466 On September 11, 2001 it was a beautiful clear and clear day. 60 00:07:17,537 --> 00:07:19,835 It was returning of the hairdressing salon of the pentagon... 61 00:07:19,906 --> 00:07:21,203 THE DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC POLITICS 62 00:07:21,274 --> 00:07:24,471 ... I happened{passed} for my office and I threw{added} a glance to the TV set... 63 00:07:24,544 --> 00:07:28,537 and I saw one of the towers twins in flames{llamas}. 64 00:07:29,649 --> 00:07:32,117 SAFETY CHAMBER OF THE PENTAGON 65 00:07:32,185 --> 00:07:35,450 We do not hear to smash to the plane, at least, I did not hear it. 66 00:07:35,521 --> 00:07:39,548 Suddenly, it was as if the Earth was opened. 67 00:07:39,625 --> 00:07:41,855 I saw the fire-ball and, I must say... 68 00:07:41,928 --> 00:07:45,386 that, on having seen her, I thought that it would not go out hence lively. 69 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:49,333 The plane had smashed under our office area. 70 00:07:49,402 --> 00:07:50,801 The office of budget... 71 00:07:50,870 --> 00:07:55,534 where 38 persons died, it was just below... 72 00:07:55,608 --> 00:07:59,408 and the new center of control of the marina it was two apartments further down. 73 00:07:59,479 --> 00:08:02,448 There were no survivors in these two sections. 74 00:08:02,515 --> 00:08:05,450 This had to design his{her} Osama Bin Laden... 75 00:08:05,518 --> 00:08:08,009 because another terrorist did not occur to me... 76 00:08:08,087 --> 00:08:10,749 that could have organized something like that. 77 00:08:10,823 --> 00:08:12,222 Did he{she} think it immediately? 78 00:08:12,291 --> 00:08:13,781 Immediately. 79 00:08:15,862 --> 00:08:19,298 One month after September 11, The USA . invaded Afghanistan... 80 00:08:19,365 --> 00:08:22,095 in search of Al Qaeda and of Osama Bin Laden. 81 00:08:22,168 --> 00:08:25,729 But before the war of Afghanistan, some tall officials... 82 00:08:25,805 --> 00:08:27,466 they were already chasing{prosecuting} another target... 83 00:08:27,540 --> 00:08:31,271 one that had not anything in common with the attacks of 11S. 84 00:08:31,344 --> 00:08:33,744 When the attack of the pentagon, I was in the building{edifice}. 85 00:08:33,813 --> 00:08:35,075 EXPERT ANALYST OF IRAQ INTELLIGENCE OF DEFENSE 86 00:08:35,147 --> 00:08:38,548 I suppose that the following thing that happened... 87 00:08:38,618 --> 00:08:42,384 the fact was that they assigned to us to look immediately a relation... 88 00:08:42,455 --> 00:08:45,049 between Saddam and Al Qaeda. 89 00:08:45,124 --> 00:08:50,289 I went to speak directly with the group of antiterrorism... 90 00:08:50,363 --> 00:08:52,092 with the analyst chief of Iraq. 91 00:08:52,164 --> 00:08:54,655 The two met some days... 92 00:08:54,734 --> 00:08:58,135 and we analyze all the historical reports that we could find. 93 00:08:58,204 --> 00:08:59,432 Was Cu�I his conclusion? 94 00:08:59,505 --> 00:09:02,030 We conclude that there was no relation. 95 00:09:02,108 --> 00:09:07,671 His diet{regime} helps and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaeda. 96 00:09:07,747 --> 00:09:11,148 We watch the participation of Iraq in terrorist activities. 97 00:09:11,217 --> 00:09:13,208 What I want to highlight today... 98 00:09:13,286 --> 00:09:17,484 it is the connection potentially much more sinister between Iraq... 99 00:09:17,557 --> 00:09:19,081 and the terrorist network of Al Qaeda. 100 00:09:19,158 --> 00:09:21,626 We do not want that of smoke of gun pass to atomic cloud. 101 00:09:22,094 --> 00:09:24,528 WRITER Iraq is full of vagrants... 102 00:09:24,597 --> 00:09:26,155 they will put them in ships... 103 00:09:26,232 --> 00:09:29,531 they will give them chemical biological weapon... 104 00:09:29,602 --> 00:09:32,036 and they will order them flying from the ships... 105 00:09:32,104 --> 00:09:34,436 to attack the east coast of the USA. 106 00:09:34,507 --> 00:09:36,566 It is a fantastic world. 107 00:09:36,642 --> 00:09:39,611 I do not know what these people were smoking... 108 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,840 but it had to be of good quality. 109 00:09:41,914 --> 00:09:45,247 The circle of exterior{foreign} politics of George W. Bush... 110 00:09:45,318 --> 00:09:47,718 Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz... 111 00:09:47,787 --> 00:09:51,245 they directed the administration towards the war of Iraq. 112 00:09:51,324 --> 00:09:53,815 Condolezza Rice accompanied them. 113 00:09:53,893 --> 00:09:55,724 Colin Powell and Richard Armitage... 114 00:09:55,795 --> 00:09:58,423 the only tall officials with experience in combat... 115 00:09:58,497 --> 00:10:02,695 they expressed his worries, but they supported to the administration in public. 116 00:10:03,002 --> 00:10:07,701 HISTORY 117 00:10:09,075 --> 00:10:11,942 The advisers of Bush they were treating with Saddam Hussein... 118 00:10:12,011 --> 00:10:14,775 since �I was invading Iran in 1980... 119 00:10:14,847 --> 00:10:17,839 in a brutal war that it was paid by almost a million dead persons. 120 00:10:17,917 --> 00:10:19,384 Iraq used chemical weapon... 121 00:10:19,452 --> 00:10:23,081 against the military men and the civil innocent Iranians. 122 00:10:23,155 --> 00:10:24,986 Saddam invested million dollars... 123 00:10:25,057 --> 00:10:28,185 in programs of biological weapon, chemical and nuclear... 124 00:10:28,260 --> 00:10:31,923 while it was murdering 300.000 of your own citizens. 125 00:10:31,998 --> 00:10:34,364 But the administration of Reagan, being afraid to Iran... 126 00:10:34,433 --> 00:10:38,460 he{she} attended to Saddam with military intelligence and economic{economical} helps. 127 00:10:38,537 --> 00:10:41,802 Donald Rumsfeld met with Saddam in 1983. 128 00:10:41,874 --> 00:10:44,536 Colin Powell was the adviser of national safety of Reagan... 129 00:10:44,610 --> 00:10:47,101 from 1987 to 1989. 130 00:10:47,179 --> 00:10:51,081 The 80s were summed up in the horrible one although developer documented... 131 00:10:51,150 --> 00:10:55,517 WRITER Y CATEDR�TICA ... of the department of the state{condition} of 1987... 132 00:10:55,588 --> 00:11:01,959 that was saying that human rights and chemical separate weapon, eat... 133 00:11:02,028 --> 00:11:04,963 our interests those will be equipped with Iraq. 134 00:11:05,564 --> 00:11:09,022 The war between Iran and Iraq it remained in deadlock in 1988. 135 00:11:09,101 --> 00:11:13,028 THE FIRST WAR OF THE GULF In 1990, Saddam invades Kuwait. 136 00:11:13,105 --> 00:11:15,665 A coalition guided by the USA. he{she} expels it in a war... 137 00:11:15,741 --> 00:11:19,108 planned by Dick Cheney, the secretary of that time of defense... 138 00:11:19,178 --> 00:11:22,739 Paul Wolfowitz, the undersecretary of that time of defense... 139 00:11:22,815 --> 00:11:26,911 and Colin Powell, the of that time one president of the joint staff. 140 00:11:26,986 --> 00:11:30,922 Bush senior incites the Iraqis to a coup d'�tat against Saddam. 141 00:11:30,990 --> 00:11:34,084 There is another way of stopping{detaining} the blood effusion... 142 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:39,063 that the Iraqi army and the people{village}... 143 00:11:39,131 --> 00:11:40,894 they take the justice as his hand... 144 00:11:40,966 --> 00:11:45,096 and demolish the dictator Saddam Hussein. 145 00:11:45,171 --> 00:11:47,639 But when the chi�tas of the south of Iraq they subset sail... 146 00:11:47,707 --> 00:11:50,301 the administration stops that Saddam squashes them. 147 00:11:50,376 --> 00:11:53,868 14 of 18 Iraqi provinces... 148 00:11:53,946 --> 00:11:56,641 AMBASSADOR DE IRAQ EN THE UNO ... the rebels were controlling them... 149 00:11:56,716 --> 00:12:00,618 when general Schwartzkopf it allowed Saddam Hussein... 150 00:12:00,686 --> 00:12:03,746 to use the helicopters of combat... 151 00:12:03,823 --> 00:12:07,589 to massacre the rebels, men, women and children. 152 00:12:07,660 --> 00:12:10,720 The armistice of 1991 it is required that Iraq should disarm itself... 153 00:12:10,796 --> 00:12:13,321 but Saddam refuses. 154 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:15,594 It results in the fall of the economy of Iraq... 155 00:12:15,668 --> 00:12:19,104 for the sequestration of the UNO that comes into force in 1993... 156 00:12:19,171 --> 00:12:21,969 and that continues during Clinton's administration. 157 00:12:22,041 --> 00:12:24,441 The favored elite for Saddam he{she} does not suffer it... 158 00:12:24,510 --> 00:12:27,673 but the Iraqis of on foot they rush to the extreme poverty... 159 00:12:27,747 --> 00:12:31,444 and many{many people} come{turn} to the Islamic fundamentalism. 160 00:12:31,517 --> 00:12:35,009 In 1993, when George Bush senior visits Kuwait... 161 00:12:35,087 --> 00:12:36,884 Saddam tries to murder it. 162 00:12:37,923 --> 00:12:41,689 Seven years later, his son he is elected a president of the USA. 163 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:45,288 When you see the same architects of political those... 164 00:12:45,364 --> 00:12:46,729 on the one hand, speaking on... 165 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:50,735 to straighten up what went out badly in 1991... 166 00:12:50,803 --> 00:12:52,566 to finish what they began... 167 00:12:52,638 --> 00:12:54,970 it was tantalizing to think that had learned something. 168 00:12:56,342 --> 00:13:02,212 Saddam Hussein and his children they must leave Iraq in 48 hours. 169 00:13:02,281 --> 00:13:06,115 A denial it would result in military conflict... 170 00:13:06,185 --> 00:13:09,154 whose{which} beginning it is we who will decide. 171 00:13:09,255 --> 00:13:13,715 PRESIDENTIAL BOARD OF NATIONAL SAFETY NUMBER 24 172 00:13:13,793 --> 00:13:18,287 If the beginning wants to be dated of the disaster of the postwar period of Iraq... 173 00:13:18,364 --> 00:13:21,492 it would have to be January 20, 2003... 174 00:13:21,567 --> 00:13:24,559 when Bush signed without, for what I know... 175 00:13:24,637 --> 00:13:25,637 JOURNALIST AND WRITER 176 00:13:25,671 --> 00:13:29,107 ... no real{royal} discussion in the White House or the administration... 177 00:13:29,175 --> 00:13:33,339 the presidential board of national safety number 24... 178 00:13:33,412 --> 00:13:36,813 that was granting the control of Iraq to the Pentagon after the war. 179 00:13:36,882 --> 00:13:39,851 This document did of Donald Rumsfeld... 180 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:42,547 the principal agent{reagent} in the postwar period of Iraq. 181 00:13:42,621 --> 00:13:45,055 This war was conceived for a limited{small} number of persons... 182 00:13:45,124 --> 00:13:46,148 THE DIRECTOR OF THE GROUP OF INTERNATIONAL CRISIS 183 00:13:46,225 --> 00:13:48,420 ... of the administration of Bush. 184 00:13:48,494 --> 00:13:53,761 They had a vision very ingenuous of what it was Iraq... 185 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:56,734 and of what the Iraqis they would do on having fallen down the diet{regime}. 186 00:13:56,802 --> 00:13:59,965 On having formulated his opinion on Iraq after the fall of Saddam... 187 00:14:00,039 --> 00:14:03,805 the administration rested{relied} in a man called Ahmed Chalabi. 188 00:14:03,876 --> 00:14:06,436 From 1992, Chalabi had been a president... 189 00:14:06,512 --> 00:14:09,879 of the National Iraqi Congress, or CNI. 190 00:14:09,949 --> 00:14:11,712 He{She} was not waking up confidence in general... 191 00:14:11,784 --> 00:14:15,481 since Chalabi had been a reprobate in Jordan for bank fraud. 192 00:14:15,554 --> 00:14:18,648 The intelligence considered his slightly trustworthy information... 193 00:14:18,724 --> 00:14:20,555 or even fraudulent. 194 00:14:20,626 --> 00:14:24,426 Ideally, they were lying... 195 00:14:24,496 --> 00:14:26,828 and at the worst, they were inciting. 196 00:14:26,899 --> 00:14:28,366 If it was a source of the CNI... 197 00:14:28,434 --> 00:14:34,270 the analysts were receiving it skeptics. 198 00:14:34,340 --> 00:14:36,399 But it was not like that for the creators of political. 199 00:14:36,475 --> 00:14:38,500 Chalabi assured that the postwar period of Iraq... 200 00:14:38,577 --> 00:14:41,410 it would be pro American and easy to stabilize... 201 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,677 especially, if the proper Chalabi was to the control. 202 00:14:44,750 --> 00:14:47,048 So the plan was, in extract... 203 00:14:47,119 --> 00:14:49,610 to be approximately three or four months... 204 00:14:49,688 --> 00:14:53,749 to restore a government exiles' compound... 205 00:14:53,826 --> 00:14:56,818 with Ahmed Chalabi to the head... 206 00:14:56,896 --> 00:15:00,195 and, then, in August or September, 2003... 207 00:15:00,266 --> 00:15:05,203 to begin the drastic one reduction of the troops. 208 00:15:05,271 --> 00:15:07,501 Larry Di Rita communicated to us in a circular letter... 209 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,635 that at the end of August, 2003... 210 00:15:10,670 --> 00:15:11,670 ANCIENT{FORMER} SPOKESMAN DE DEFENSA 211 00:15:11,677 --> 00:15:15,340 ... only they would stay in Iraq from 25.000 to 30.000 troops. 212 00:15:15,414 --> 00:15:18,542 I heard it saying it in the persons' fourth full house... 213 00:15:18,617 --> 00:15:20,448 and I turned{became} to my companions... 214 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:22,384 and I said to them: " It is not known what he{she} says. 215 00:15:22,454 --> 00:15:24,445 " It is physically impossible ". 216 00:15:24,523 --> 00:15:27,651 The Future project of Iraq of the department of the state{condition} ... 217 00:15:27,726 --> 00:15:30,194 a study of 13 volumes on the postwar period of Iraq... 218 00:15:30,262 --> 00:15:32,230 it was ignored by the Pentagon. 219 00:15:32,298 --> 00:15:33,765 It was debated very much. 220 00:15:33,775 --> 00:15:34,775 THE DIRECTOR OF THE PROGRAM OF NATIONAL SAFETY 221 00:15:34,778 --> 00:15:39,103 There were tons of volumes on how should we do it. 222 00:15:39,171 --> 00:15:41,196 Almost not at all it integrated... 223 00:15:41,273 --> 00:15:42,672 in the idea of the Pentagon. 224 00:15:42,741 --> 00:15:43,765 My frustration... 225 00:15:43,842 --> 00:15:45,002 CHIEF OF STAFF OF BREAD STICK POWELL 226 00:15:45,077 --> 00:15:46,635 ... and that of the secretary they grew... 227 00:15:46,712 --> 00:15:50,842 on having seen our elegant planning, our detailed planning... 228 00:15:50,916 --> 00:15:52,213 completely discarded... 229 00:15:52,284 --> 00:15:54,218 and to the people who had realized it... 230 00:15:54,286 --> 00:15:55,878 completely discarded... 231 00:15:55,955 --> 00:15:58,617 so that the most loyal people... 232 00:15:58,691 --> 00:16:02,286 in the line{figure} of the visions of the republican party... 233 00:16:02,361 --> 00:16:05,762 they could be renowned for key positions in Iraq. 234 00:16:06,198 --> 00:16:07,961 THE WAR 235 00:16:08,033 --> 00:16:11,230 In this moment, the forces of the coalition and those of EE.UU... 236 00:16:11,303 --> 00:16:13,601 they begin the military operations... 237 00:16:13,672 --> 00:16:16,698 to disarm Iraq, to liberate his people... 238 00:16:16,775 --> 00:16:19,744 and to defend to the world of a serious danger. 239 00:16:43,102 --> 00:16:44,865 I joined the marina because he{she} believed... 240 00:16:44,937 --> 00:16:46,928 that was an important work and he{she} was thinking... 241 00:16:47,006 --> 00:16:50,104 LIEUTENANT OF THE MARINA that would not be happy in the life... 242 00:16:50,175 --> 00:16:53,542 ... knowing that another people it had fought for my freedom. 243 00:16:53,779 --> 00:16:55,076 I joined the army for... 244 00:16:55,147 --> 00:16:57,838 SPECIALIST, MILITARY POLICE OFFICER{POLICE} OF the USA. ... to support to my country... 245 00:16:57,916 --> 00:17:03,183 and I thought that it was slightly positive. 246 00:17:03,255 --> 00:17:06,622 It was an honor... 247 00:17:06,692 --> 00:17:07,692 GUNNER OF the USA. 248 00:17:07,726 --> 00:17:12,186 ... to go out to help to my welded partners... 249 00:17:12,264 --> 00:17:17,099 to do what they say to us that it is necessary to do... 250 00:17:17,169 --> 00:17:23,233 perhaps to demolish a dictator... 251 00:17:23,308 --> 00:17:26,072 to restore a democracy. 252 00:17:28,414 --> 00:17:32,510 He{She} was wishing it to begin the war because it was... 253 00:17:33,619 --> 00:17:36,986 the only beam of hope that it had... 254 00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:42,460 and when it happened, it was very moved. 255 00:17:42,528 --> 00:17:45,156 The things would happen{pass} slowly... 256 00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:48,495 but they would go towards one better future. 257 00:17:48,567 --> 00:17:50,262 Thank you, mister Bush. 258 00:17:50,335 --> 00:17:53,463 We like very much mister Bush! 259 00:17:53,539 --> 00:17:56,440 Not, not to Saddam! Yes, yes to Bush! 260 00:17:56,508 --> 00:17:59,705 Not, not to Saddam! Yes, yes to Bush! 261 00:17:59,778 --> 00:18:02,679 Look what it has done, 262 00:18:02,748 --> 00:18:04,807 look what it has done to him to Iraq! 263 00:18:04,883 --> 00:18:10,515 It was a hopeful place, frightened, noisy, confused... 264 00:18:10,589 --> 00:18:12,489 quite mixed. 265 00:18:12,558 --> 00:18:15,857 He{She} saw children with balaclava that " FBI " were saying... 266 00:18:15,928 --> 00:18:16,928 JOURNALIST IN BAGHDAD FROM APRIL 15, 2003 267 00:18:16,995 --> 00:18:18,326 ... and the thumbs were raising me. 268 00:18:18,397 --> 00:18:20,365 And other young boys... 269 00:18:20,432 --> 00:18:23,128 possibly, fedayines of civil... 270 00:18:23,202 --> 00:18:24,692 they were looking at me with hardness... 271 00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:27,261 and they were evaluating me... 272 00:18:27,339 --> 00:18:29,569 always looking at the registration{license plate} of the car. 273 00:18:29,641 --> 00:18:31,768 The Iraqis were hoping to see... 274 00:18:31,844 --> 00:18:32,844 JOURNALIST AND WRITER IN BAGHDAD FROM JULY, 2003 275 00:18:32,878 --> 00:18:34,072 ... what was going to bear them. 276 00:18:34,146 --> 00:18:39,914 The presence of the USA still{yet} had not been pushed back by the Iraqis. 277 00:18:39,985 --> 00:18:42,681 Not to Saddam, not to Saddam! 278 00:18:42,754 --> 00:18:45,951 I have seen the people receiving the troops of the coalition... 279 00:18:46,024 --> 00:18:50,893 because we think that everything it was planned, prepared. 280 00:18:52,898 --> 00:18:54,024 There they have it. 281 00:18:55,501 --> 00:18:57,765 During the Second World war, the EE.UU... 282 00:18:57,836 --> 00:19:00,100 they started gliding the occupation of Germany... 283 00:19:00,172 --> 00:19:02,140 two years earlier... 284 00:19:02,207 --> 00:19:04,675 but the administration of Bush it did not create the organization... 285 00:19:04,743 --> 00:19:06,836 that would take charge of the occupation of Iraq... 286 00:19:06,912 --> 00:19:10,040 up to 60 days before the invasion. 287 00:19:10,115 --> 00:19:13,050 The ORHA, the office for the reconstruction... 288 00:19:13,118 --> 00:19:15,109 and the humanitarian aid... 289 00:19:15,187 --> 00:19:18,623 he{she} was reporting directly to the secretary of defender Rumsfeld. 290 00:19:18,690 --> 00:19:23,423 They called me from the office of the secretary of defense at the end of January. 291 00:19:23,495 --> 00:19:24,928 They wanted that I was taking charge... 292 00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:27,456 MANAGER ORHA ... of humanitarian matters. 293 00:19:27,533 --> 00:19:32,027 Jay Garner, general of the retired army, it was chosen to direct the ORHA. 294 00:19:32,104 --> 00:19:35,596 In the first War of the Gulf, it had directed 22.000 soldiers... 295 00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:37,699 in humanitarian operations... 296 00:19:37,776 --> 00:19:40,643 in the Kurdish area of the north of Iraq. 297 00:19:40,712 --> 00:19:43,579 This time, he{she} would take charge of the whole country. 298 00:19:43,649 --> 00:19:45,844 Was he considered prepared to direct Iraq? 299 00:19:46,818 --> 00:19:49,582 I do not believe that never we were prepared... 300 00:19:49,655 --> 00:19:52,954 To prepare would take us years a company of this magnitude. 301 00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:54,322 Nobody had years. 302 00:19:54,393 --> 00:19:55,917 They called me cellular me. 303 00:19:55,994 --> 00:19:57,052 SUPERVISED BY BAGHDAD FOR the USA. 304 00:19:57,129 --> 00:19:59,063 It was someone of the department of the state{condition}... 305 00:19:59,131 --> 00:20:01,964 saying to me that Rich Armitage was looking for me... 306 00:20:02,034 --> 00:20:05,094 and he{she} wanted that it was returning to Washington immediately. 307 00:20:05,170 --> 00:20:08,662 Ambassadress Barbara Bodine it put itself supervised by Baghdad... 308 00:20:08,740 --> 00:20:10,799 only three weeks before the war. 309 00:20:10,876 --> 00:20:12,776 She was a diplomatic official with experience... 310 00:20:12,844 --> 00:20:14,812 that had served in Yemen, Iraq... 311 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,371 and that had been a hostage in Kuwait five months... 312 00:20:17,449 --> 00:20:19,849 after the invasion of Saddam in 1990. 313 00:20:19,918 --> 00:20:22,580 It belonged to few experts in the Middle East... 314 00:20:22,654 --> 00:20:25,452 that the Pentagon ordered Iraq. 315 00:20:25,524 --> 00:20:28,084 One of the few ones. I believed that they had been wrong... 316 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,786 UNDERSECRETARY OF THE STATE{CONDITION} They believed that it would be easy to handle... 317 00:20:30,862 --> 00:20:32,989 Pero Barbara is of the hardest of the service. 318 00:20:33,065 --> 00:20:35,693 In 2003, colonel Paul Hughes... 319 00:20:35,767 --> 00:20:37,667 it was taking in the Pentagon 6 years... 320 00:20:37,736 --> 00:20:39,260 in works of planning and strategy... 321 00:20:39,338 --> 00:20:41,533 for expert officials of Defense. 322 00:20:41,607 --> 00:20:43,336 I ended up by being destined... 323 00:20:43,408 --> 00:20:47,708 to the office of reconstruction and humanitarian aid... 324 00:20:47,779 --> 00:20:48,871 with Jay Garner. 325 00:20:48,947 --> 00:20:51,677 I was his director of strategic politics. 326 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:58,656 The ORHA started working in the Pentagon 50 days before the invasion. 327 00:20:58,724 --> 00:21:01,215 They gave us an office complex... 328 00:21:01,293 --> 00:21:04,057 that was taking an unoccupied pair{couple} of years... 329 00:21:04,129 --> 00:21:06,927 there were no computers, the people were coming every day... 330 00:21:06,999 --> 00:21:08,398 and he{she} was asking: " Where do I feel? ". 331 00:21:08,467 --> 00:21:11,561 There was no personnel. 332 00:21:11,637 --> 00:21:16,700 It did not even have a secretary. 333 00:21:16,775 --> 00:21:19,403 Only there was a meeting in the University of National Defense... 334 00:21:19,478 --> 00:21:22,311 and I believe that the unanimous opinion... 335 00:21:22,381 --> 00:21:24,508 of the people who was present at this meeting... 336 00:21:24,583 --> 00:21:27,484 with that I spoke then... 337 00:21:27,552 --> 00:21:30,817 it was: " This is a madness ". 338 00:21:30,889 --> 00:21:33,084 It was our first meeting... 339 00:21:33,158 --> 00:21:35,888 and they were not offering us too much safety... 340 00:21:35,961 --> 00:21:37,326 because, basically... 341 00:21:37,396 --> 00:21:39,864 the only thing that we did was to meet us. 342 00:21:39,931 --> 00:21:42,991 It was not structured at all. 343 00:21:43,068 --> 00:21:47,368 There were no plans. None by no means. 344 00:21:47,439 --> 00:21:51,705 On March 16, the ORHA one displaced Kuwait. 345 00:21:51,777 --> 00:21:54,678 167 persons accompanied us. 346 00:21:54,746 --> 00:21:57,442 167 persons who would turn... 347 00:21:57,516 --> 00:22:00,610 in the government of a country of 25 millions. 348 00:22:01,186 --> 00:22:04,713 BAGHDAD, ON APRIL 9, 2003 349 00:22:04,790 --> 00:22:06,189 After the fall of Baghdad... 350 00:22:06,258 --> 00:22:08,226 we did not know what was going to happen... 351 00:22:08,293 --> 00:22:10,887 and it was obvious that it had not glided at all. 352 00:22:10,962 --> 00:22:12,827 What they were telling us... 353 00:22:12,898 --> 00:22:15,025 the fact was that we would embark... 354 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:18,695 after one or two months of, basically, to conquer Iraq. 355 00:22:18,804 --> 00:22:22,797 When the troops of the USA entered in the capital, they began the plundering. 356 00:22:27,112 --> 00:22:28,272 In Kuwait... 357 00:22:28,347 --> 00:22:31,578 we were so given to the TV set as the others. 358 00:22:32,517 --> 00:22:37,318 We realized of that he{she} was reigning the disorder... 359 00:22:37,389 --> 00:22:39,949 and the chaos in Iraq. 360 00:22:42,461 --> 00:22:44,190 The Americans were not doing anything. 361 00:22:44,262 --> 00:22:47,026 They were stopping in intersections... 362 00:22:47,099 --> 00:22:49,727 but they were not going down the vehicles... 363 00:22:49,801 --> 00:22:51,632 or of the tanks to do nothing. 364 00:22:54,873 --> 00:22:58,001 The time was happening{passing} and we did not see any progress. 365 00:22:58,076 --> 00:23:01,443 The only progress it was the uncontrolled freedom. 366 00:23:01,513 --> 00:23:05,005 The looters wanted to come to all the buildings{edifices} of the government... 367 00:23:05,083 --> 00:23:07,415 and even to private companies. 368 00:23:07,486 --> 00:23:11,923 The plundering stemmed partly at the level of the troops... 369 00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:16,427 and to the sensation that Rumsfeld it transmitted his commanders... 370 00:23:16,495 --> 00:23:21,125 and these to his subordinates... 371 00:23:21,199 --> 00:23:27,434 of that we were not there to govern Iraq... 372 00:23:27,506 --> 00:23:30,100 but to eliminate the diet{regime} and to go out. 373 00:23:30,175 --> 00:23:31,540 We are not under the martial law. 374 00:23:31,610 --> 00:23:32,634 COMMANDER DE THE ALLIED FORCES 375 00:23:32,711 --> 00:23:35,509 It was not ordained general McKiernan... 376 00:23:35,580 --> 00:23:38,071 that was establishing the martial law. 377 00:23:38,150 --> 00:23:40,812 The martial law never declared itself. 378 00:23:40,886 --> 00:23:43,855 We are in a process of transition, sincerely... 379 00:23:43,922 --> 00:23:48,120 there is a civil law in Iraq, but there is not... 380 00:23:48,193 --> 00:23:52,653 They already heard that the first two courts they were opened today... 381 00:23:52,731 --> 00:23:54,995 so, when it is begun from zero... 382 00:23:55,066 --> 00:23:56,499 With the martial law... 383 00:23:56,568 --> 00:24:00,595 that the fourth Convention of Geneva he{she} would have authorized... 384 00:24:00,672 --> 00:24:04,130 perhaps there would have been more safety. 385 00:24:04,209 --> 00:24:05,972 We are a marines' section... 386 00:24:06,044 --> 00:24:08,069 we might have detained the plundering... 387 00:24:08,146 --> 00:24:09,704 if they had arranged it to us. 388 00:24:09,781 --> 00:24:13,046 The big mystery of the Iraqi postwar period... 389 00:24:13,118 --> 00:24:15,348 it is why in one month after the fall of Baghdad... 390 00:24:15,420 --> 00:24:16,546 NATIONAL PUBLISHER 391 00:24:16,621 --> 00:24:18,088 ... the USA did not do anything... 392 00:24:18,156 --> 00:24:20,681 to control the plundering, because... 393 00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:22,852 all the problems since then... 394 00:24:22,928 --> 00:24:24,225 they began the first month. 395 00:24:24,296 --> 00:24:26,287 The Council of National Safety... 396 00:24:26,364 --> 00:24:28,332 the secretary of Powell, I and others... 397 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,166 the director of the CIA, we express our worries for the plundering. 398 00:24:32,237 --> 00:24:34,501 Did he{she} speak with the president Bush? 399 00:24:34,573 --> 00:24:37,440 I was present at the meeting in that my chief commented on it to himself. 400 00:24:37,509 --> 00:24:39,204 What did mister Powell say? 401 00:24:39,277 --> 00:24:41,438 This is not our way of acting. 402 00:24:41,513 --> 00:24:44,682 Our advices{councils} to the president they are private. 403 00:24:44,749 --> 00:24:46,717 From Washington it was said... 404 00:24:46,785 --> 00:24:48,309 that we would not interfere... 405 00:24:48,386 --> 00:24:50,251 that we would not detain the plundering... 406 00:24:50,322 --> 00:24:52,483 that we would not be police officers... 407 00:24:52,557 --> 00:24:55,526 this is not what we came to do. I think... 408 00:24:55,594 --> 00:24:59,360 There were instructions explicit from Washington... 409 00:24:59,431 --> 00:25:01,058 not to interfere in the plundering? 410 00:25:01,132 --> 00:25:02,190 Yes. 411 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,800 The plundering of Baghdad soon they transformed 412 00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:09,034 in a destruction of the city on a large scale violent and organized. 413 00:25:09,107 --> 00:25:13,908 Hospitals, governmental offices, universities, departments... 414 00:25:13,979 --> 00:25:17,574 The provisional authority estimated the losses in the plundering... 415 00:25:17,649 --> 00:25:20,743 in 12.000 million dollars. 416 00:25:20,819 --> 00:25:26,314 The same as the government debts of Iraq in the year 2003-2004. 417 00:25:26,391 --> 00:25:30,293 I bought a periodic today and I remained surprised. 418 00:25:30,362 --> 00:25:33,627 I read eight holders who were speaking of... 419 00:25:33,698 --> 00:25:37,065 " Chaos! Violence! Discomfort! ". 420 00:25:37,135 --> 00:25:40,104 It sounds as if it us was going away to fall down the world above. 421 00:25:40,171 --> 00:25:42,696 Imagine the quarter{room} where we were seated... 422 00:25:42,774 --> 00:25:46,437 and only you see cement walls, nothing stays. 423 00:25:46,511 --> 00:25:50,106 We speak about the people who comes with industrial cranes... 424 00:25:50,181 --> 00:25:53,742 and it takes parts of a power plant. 425 00:25:53,818 --> 00:25:55,547 Compare it with our cities... 426 00:25:55,620 --> 00:25:59,716 when there have been disturbances, problems and plundering. 427 00:25:59,791 --> 00:26:02,259 These things happen{pass}! 428 00:26:02,327 --> 00:26:04,557 There were no thefts in the shops. 429 00:26:04,629 --> 00:26:09,396 They were the people limiting walls to fine sand{gravel}... 430 00:26:09,467 --> 00:26:10,957 to take a beam. 431 00:26:11,036 --> 00:26:12,867 The images that they see in television... 432 00:26:12,938 --> 00:26:15,702 there are the repeated same... 433 00:26:15,774 --> 00:26:18,368 and it is the same image of someone... 434 00:26:18,443 --> 00:26:20,775 that goes out of a building{edifice} with a vase. 435 00:26:20,845 --> 00:26:24,178 I believe that this was the day in that we lost the Iraqis. 436 00:26:24,649 --> 00:26:27,675 And you think: " Golly! Were there so many vases? ". 437 00:26:30,188 --> 00:26:33,715 It is possible that there was so many vases in the whole country? 438 00:26:34,326 --> 00:26:37,523 It is when it became clear... 439 00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:40,827 that this liberation did not have nothing to see with the Iraqis. 440 00:26:40,899 --> 00:26:42,161 One believed that the EE.UU... 441 00:26:42,233 --> 00:26:44,861 they incited the plundering, or that was his desire. 442 00:26:44,936 --> 00:26:46,028 JOURNALIST IN BAGHDAD FROM APRIL, 2003 443 00:26:46,104 --> 00:26:48,038 The destruction of our country... 444 00:26:48,106 --> 00:26:49,596 how could they allow it? 445 00:26:49,674 --> 00:26:51,539 Be already sun� or chi�ta... 446 00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:53,202 the plundering was contracting you. 447 00:26:53,278 --> 00:26:57,772 We did a list of 20 places... 448 00:26:57,849 --> 00:27:00,215 that we believed had to be protected... 449 00:27:00,285 --> 00:27:04,949 for history, culture, art or religion. 450 00:27:05,023 --> 00:27:07,048 We send it... 451 00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:10,356 but not surti� no effect. 452 00:27:10,428 --> 00:27:16,128 The Department of the Oil was the only one installation protected by the USA. 453 00:27:16,201 --> 00:27:22,436 None was protected of the places of the list of the ORHA. 454 00:27:22,507 --> 00:27:24,873 The National Museum of Iraq in Baghdad... 455 00:27:24,943 --> 00:27:26,604 the number one of the list of the ORHA... 456 00:27:26,678 --> 00:27:29,238 it was containing some of the most important objects... 457 00:27:29,314 --> 00:27:31,612 of the ancient civilizations. 458 00:27:31,683 --> 00:27:33,878 The museum was never protected. 459 00:27:33,952 --> 00:27:36,113 It is a property of our nation, 460 00:27:36,187 --> 00:27:38,849 and the treasure of 7.000 years of civilization. 461 00:27:38,923 --> 00:27:40,390 Why do they allow it? 462 00:27:40,458 --> 00:27:43,450 The National Library and the National File of Iraq... 463 00:27:43,528 --> 00:27:46,964 that were containing thousands of manuscripts ancient they were set fire. 464 00:27:47,032 --> 00:27:51,332 Quite what he{she} writes himself or he{she} wrote himself... 465 00:27:51,403 --> 00:27:53,837 he{she} was keeping in this library. 466 00:27:53,905 --> 00:27:58,103 We already have no national heritage. 467 00:27:58,176 --> 00:28:01,976 Three days ago, the doctor Jabar Khalil... 468 00:28:02,047 --> 00:28:04,811 president of the Council of Antiquities, and I... 469 00:28:04,883 --> 00:28:10,014 we went to the headquarters of the marines in the Hotel Palestine. 470 00:28:10,088 --> 00:28:12,181 We wait more than four hours... 471 00:28:12,257 --> 00:28:14,555 until a colonel received us. 472 00:28:14,626 --> 00:28:19,290 Then, he{she} promised us that would order armored cars... 473 00:28:19,364 --> 00:28:23,357 to protect the remains of the museum. 474 00:28:23,435 --> 00:28:26,495 This was three days ago, nobody came. 475 00:28:26,571 --> 00:28:30,871 To try to make responsible it is unfortunate... 476 00:28:30,942 --> 00:28:32,876 activity... 477 00:28:32,944 --> 00:28:35,469 in the defects of a plan of war... 478 00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:37,276 it looks like to me an exaggeration. 479 00:28:37,348 --> 00:28:42,012 They did not receive notices of academicians between others... 480 00:28:42,087 --> 00:28:44,578 on the danger of the museum? There for were not asked they... 481 00:28:44,656 --> 00:28:47,318 to provide more safety and protection... 482 00:28:47,392 --> 00:28:49,292 in the initial phases of the operation? 483 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,418 That I know, not. 484 00:28:50,495 --> 00:28:52,122 They cannot say that the plundering... 485 00:28:52,197 --> 00:28:53,528 they took them as a surprise. 486 00:28:53,598 --> 00:28:55,532 I believe that they did not want to know it. 487 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,692 They did not want to hear it. 488 00:29:12,684 --> 00:29:14,845 In the months before the invasion... 489 00:29:14,919 --> 00:29:17,319 the debate on how many troops Iraq would be sent... 490 00:29:17,388 --> 00:29:18,616 it was supported privately... 491 00:29:18,690 --> 00:29:22,217 between the military leaders and Donald Rumsfeld. 492 00:29:22,293 --> 00:29:24,659 Rumsfeld and his undersecretary, Paul Wolfowitz... 493 00:29:24,729 --> 00:29:27,425 they believed that a force of less than 100.000 troops... 494 00:29:27,499 --> 00:29:28,591 it would be sufficient... 495 00:29:28,666 --> 00:29:31,430 for the invasion and occupation of Iraq. 496 00:29:31,503 --> 00:29:33,061 One month before the invasion... 497 00:29:33,138 --> 00:29:35,265 the dispute{argument} on the troops went out to the light... 498 00:29:35,340 --> 00:29:38,309 when the Chief of Staff of the army, Eric Shinseki... 499 00:29:38,376 --> 00:29:40,901 he{she} testified before the Committee of Services Armed{Assembled} with the Senate... 500 00:29:40,979 --> 00:29:43,243 ignoring the pressure of Rumsfeld and of Wolfowitz. 501 00:29:43,314 --> 00:29:46,112 General Shinseki... 502 00:29:46,184 --> 00:29:48,778 it can indicate us the magnitude... 503 00:29:48,853 --> 00:29:53,017 of forces of the army necessary for the occupation of Iraq? 504 00:29:53,091 --> 00:29:57,152 About several hundreds of thousands of soldiers... 505 00:29:57,228 --> 00:30:02,928 they might be necessary. 506 00:30:03,001 --> 00:30:04,901 The reaction was immediate. 507 00:30:05,303 --> 00:30:08,033 What is clear here... 508 00:30:08,106 --> 00:30:11,473 the fact is that to think that they are needed hundreds of thousands of soldiers... 509 00:30:11,543 --> 00:30:13,841 I believe that it leaves of the logic. 510 00:30:13,912 --> 00:30:16,472 It is inconceivable that need more forces... 511 00:30:16,548 --> 00:30:19,449 to stabilize Iraq after the fall of Saddam... 512 00:30:19,517 --> 00:30:21,610 that to carry out the proper war... 513 00:30:21,686 --> 00:30:24,052 and to assure the capitulation of the forces of Saddam... 514 00:30:24,122 --> 00:30:27,057 and his army. Difficult to imagine. 515 00:30:27,125 --> 00:30:29,719 Difficult to imagine. 516 00:30:29,794 --> 00:30:32,763 Anyone that has experience... 517 00:30:32,831 --> 00:30:37,530 in the interventions in the 90s it was known that it is precisely the opposite. 518 00:30:37,602 --> 00:30:42,505 So many soldiers are needed for every thousand inhabitants... 519 00:30:42,574 --> 00:30:47,477 simply to provide a safety minimum. 520 00:30:47,545 --> 00:30:49,604 Pero Paul Wolfowitz was not imagining it. 521 00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:53,742 Paul Wolfowitz refused to be interviewed for this documentary. 522 00:30:53,818 --> 00:30:57,151 We speak of hostilidades later{posterior}... 523 00:30:57,222 --> 00:31:01,955 control on a big part of the geography... 524 00:31:02,026 --> 00:31:06,292 with a class of ethnic tension... 525 00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:09,925 that might cause problems... 526 00:31:10,001 --> 00:31:13,732 and that's why it is needed great presence of forces of ground. 527 00:31:13,805 --> 00:31:15,295 Was general Shinseki right? 528 00:31:15,373 --> 00:31:17,605 TRAINER{COACH} OF THE NEW ARMY OF IRAQ His best military opinion was asked him... 529 00:31:17,675 --> 00:31:19,734 and it has more experience than I. 530 00:31:19,811 --> 00:31:22,371 He was a commander of our forces in Bosnia... 531 00:31:22,447 --> 00:31:27,077 it did it during more than one year... He{She} knows about what he{she} speaks. 532 00:31:27,151 --> 00:31:31,019 Secretary Powell and I... 533 00:31:31,089 --> 00:31:32,886 we were fighting to order more troops... 534 00:31:32,957 --> 00:31:35,721 and we obtain something, but in the end... 535 00:31:35,793 --> 00:31:38,284 it was not sufficient. 536 00:31:38,563 --> 00:31:42,329 Rumsfeld ended up by sending 160.000 troops to Iraq. 537 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,527 I believe that the war would be different... 538 00:31:44,602 --> 00:31:46,900 if there was... 539 00:31:46,971 --> 00:31:49,633 a leadership that it understood... 540 00:31:49,707 --> 00:31:53,006 first, which is to be in the area of the combat... 541 00:31:53,077 --> 00:31:55,773 that has served in the armed forces... 542 00:31:55,847 --> 00:32:00,477 and, second, which had talent of control... 543 00:32:00,551 --> 00:32:02,382 to do that this works. 544 00:32:02,453 --> 00:32:04,114 The tall officials... 545 00:32:04,188 --> 00:32:06,679 that deprived of authority the army and to the department of the state{condition}... 546 00:32:06,758 --> 00:32:09,454 they had no experience in reconstruction of postwar period... 547 00:32:09,527 --> 00:32:11,859 and almost no military experience. 548 00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:14,558 Cheney avoided the military service in Vietnam... 549 00:32:14,632 --> 00:32:16,793 with five postponements of incorporation. 550 00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:21,328 Rumsfeld was a pilot of the marines in 1950, but it never fought. 551 00:32:21,406 --> 00:32:24,375 Wolfowitz and Never curl they had served in the army. 552 00:32:24,442 --> 00:32:26,637 Bush avoided to go to Vietnam... 553 00:32:26,711 --> 00:32:29,179 joining to the Air Guardsman{National Guard} of Texas. 554 00:32:29,247 --> 00:32:33,775 Neither it had experience in politics exterior before being a president. 555 00:32:33,851 --> 00:32:35,443 We were looking at it and... 556 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,250 that we have military experience... 557 00:32:38,323 --> 00:32:40,883 and we were commenting on it often... 558 00:32:40,959 --> 00:32:42,722 we knew that it was not well. 559 00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:46,321 In April, 2003, with the plundering still without controlling... 560 00:32:46,397 --> 00:32:49,798 Rumsfeld cancelled the deployment of the first division of knighthood{cavalry}... 561 00:32:49,867 --> 00:32:51,892 a force of 16.000 soldiers. 562 00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:55,736 We surprised it. How can you cancel this division? 563 00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:59,766 If this division it had followed us to Iraq... 564 00:32:59,844 --> 00:33:02,005 we could have stabilized Iraq... 565 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,911 with our presence only. 566 00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:07,509 On April 19, the ORHA entered finally Iraq... 567 00:33:07,585 --> 00:33:10,179 to begin the operations of postwar period. 568 00:33:10,254 --> 00:33:12,688 Of 20 departments that we wanted to re-use... 569 00:33:12,757 --> 00:33:14,247 16 had been destroyed... 570 00:33:14,325 --> 00:33:16,020 because of the plundering. 571 00:33:16,594 --> 00:33:18,084 We were beginning from zero. 572 00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:20,289 If there do not stay tables, chairs... 573 00:33:20,365 --> 00:33:21,889 typewriters... 574 00:33:21,966 --> 00:33:26,062 where will we receive the Iraqis to start working? 575 00:33:26,137 --> 00:33:28,332 Structures were not staying... 576 00:33:28,406 --> 00:33:30,306 physical or bureaucratic structures. 577 00:33:30,375 --> 00:33:31,774 I had to discover the people... 578 00:33:31,843 --> 00:33:33,572 asking round there: " Do you know to ...? 579 00:33:33,644 --> 00:33:35,009 " Do you know to anybody of Health? 580 00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:36,774 " Do you know to anybody of the Interior? 581 00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:38,975 " Do you know to anybody of Education? ". 582 00:33:39,050 --> 00:33:43,510 Inside the proper group, there was... 583 00:33:43,588 --> 00:33:48,116 I believe that five who should know something about Arab{Arabic}. 584 00:33:48,192 --> 00:33:50,251 We did not have lists of phones... 585 00:33:50,328 --> 00:33:51,727 we had no phone a time... 586 00:33:51,796 --> 00:33:54,663 so I suppose that these lists they were not so important. 587 00:33:54,732 --> 00:33:57,030 We had no information not to where to go... 588 00:33:57,101 --> 00:33:58,830 we did not know with whom contacting. 589 00:33:58,903 --> 00:34:01,736 It is not the best form... 590 00:34:01,806 --> 00:34:04,001 It is not the best form of beginning an occupation. 591 00:34:04,075 --> 00:34:08,205 It was following{continued} a feeling of disorder... 592 00:34:08,279 --> 00:34:09,769 of that Iraq never recovered. 593 00:34:09,847 --> 00:34:11,405 The armed people took the control... 594 00:34:11,482 --> 00:34:13,074 they were Iraqi with weapon. 595 00:34:13,885 --> 00:34:18,083 THE GAP 596 00:34:21,893 --> 00:34:23,861 The shootings that I the vi.th.. 597 00:34:23,928 --> 00:34:27,022 they were not American being irresolute... 598 00:34:27,098 --> 00:34:29,293 but Iraqis shooting Iraqis. 599 00:34:29,367 --> 00:34:31,392 You were going in car for the street and suddenly... 600 00:34:31,469 --> 00:34:34,836 it begins a wave of shots on your head... 601 00:34:34,906 --> 00:34:36,635 and you are in the middle of these types... 602 00:34:36,707 --> 00:34:37,867 going off some others. 603 00:34:37,942 --> 00:34:39,842 The streets were a chaos... 604 00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:42,243 the people were killing and doing not spending{passing} anything... 605 00:34:42,313 --> 00:34:44,178 there was no police officer{police} of service. 606 00:34:44,248 --> 00:34:46,113 Just before the invasion... 607 00:34:46,184 --> 00:34:48,550 Saddam had released to 100.000 prisoners... 608 00:34:48,619 --> 00:34:51,110 common criminals, of the jails. 609 00:34:53,858 --> 00:34:58,557 In February, 2003... 610 00:34:58,629 --> 00:35:01,598 they invited me to report to the advisers' panel... 611 00:35:01,666 --> 00:35:03,224 that was advising Rumsfeld... 612 00:35:03,301 --> 00:35:05,360 on matters of political of defense. 613 00:35:05,436 --> 00:35:06,562 I said to them that... 614 00:35:06,637 --> 00:35:07,637 THE DIRECTOR, CRIMINAL INTERNATIONAL JUSTICE 615 00:35:07,672 --> 00:35:09,765 ... basing on our experience... 616 00:35:09,841 --> 00:35:12,935 and in the history of Iraq... 617 00:35:13,010 --> 00:35:15,808 it was very probable that if the USA was intervening... 618 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,313 and it was capturing Baghdad... 619 00:35:17,381 --> 00:35:20,350 we would face to civil massive disturbances. 620 00:35:20,418 --> 00:35:23,910 I suggested that we needed approximately 2500 forces of police officer{police}... 621 00:35:23,988 --> 00:35:27,515 approximately 4.000 civil police officers in the street... 622 00:35:27,592 --> 00:35:31,119 and teams{equipments} of judicial advisers and officials of prisons. 623 00:35:31,195 --> 00:35:34,756 In the end, they coincided in that it was a good idea... 624 00:35:34,832 --> 00:35:38,700 but that there was no time, perhaps for the next war. 625 00:35:38,769 --> 00:35:41,237 Before the war, the mortuary of Baghdad... 626 00:35:41,305 --> 00:35:42,897 it was receiving a murder a month. 627 00:35:42,974 --> 00:35:45,636 In one month, approximately 25 were coming to them a day. 628 00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:47,678 Violations, sometimes for the first time... 629 00:35:47,745 --> 00:35:48,769 violations and murders. 630 00:35:48,846 --> 00:35:50,711 They were kidnapping Iraqi girls. 631 00:35:50,781 --> 00:35:52,305 The women were disappearing... 632 00:35:52,383 --> 00:35:54,874 they stopped going to the school, driving. 633 00:35:54,952 --> 00:35:57,944 The Americans they were not doing of police officers. 634 00:35:58,022 --> 00:36:00,582 They did not know the streets, they were not speaking the language... 635 00:36:00,658 --> 00:36:03,593 they did not have sufficient interpreters... 636 00:36:03,661 --> 00:36:06,892 they had no information on what it was happening{passing}... 637 00:36:06,964 --> 00:36:08,864 so it was a pitched battle... 638 00:36:08,933 --> 00:36:11,800 you were feeling that there was a gap. 639 00:36:22,580 --> 00:36:25,447 Very soon, the mosque filled this gap... 640 00:36:25,516 --> 00:36:27,245 that EE.UU created... 641 00:36:27,318 --> 00:36:29,377 on having eliminated Saddam and not to put anything in his place. 642 00:36:29,453 --> 00:36:32,752 In the quarters chi�tas, soon they established the control... 643 00:36:32,823 --> 00:36:35,485 especially, the clergymen associated with Muqtada to the-Sadr. 644 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,791 Muqtada to the-Sadr was the son of a famous clergyman chi�ta... 645 00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:41,764 and it began his ascent to the power being based on the network of his father... 646 00:36:41,832 --> 00:36:43,823 of mosques and charity organizations. 647 00:36:43,901 --> 00:36:48,838 As I said, the small Satan has gone away, 648 00:36:48,906 --> 00:36:52,967 and the big Satan has come. 649 00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:57,978 The exit{departure} of the occupation and his retreat 650 00:36:58,049 --> 00:37:00,916 it is the victory of Iraq and of the Iraqis. 651 00:37:00,985 --> 00:37:03,920 Only a few days later of that the USA will enter Baghdad... 652 00:37:03,988 --> 00:37:07,116 it murdered a leader chi�ta pro American. 653 00:37:07,191 --> 00:37:11,287 It started creating an armed militia, the Army of Mahdi... 654 00:37:11,362 --> 00:37:13,557 that took the control of the ghetto chi�ta of Baghdad... 655 00:37:13,631 --> 00:37:15,326 and almost all the south of Iraq. 656 00:37:15,399 --> 00:37:18,095 If we deal of the matters of alertness... 657 00:37:18,169 --> 00:37:19,830 if there had not been plundering... 658 00:37:19,904 --> 00:37:22,464 there would not have been sectarian militias... 659 00:37:22,540 --> 00:37:25,532 as safety source in the quarters. 660 00:37:25,610 --> 00:37:28,602 The ORHA strained in remembering the Iraqi army... 661 00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:30,874 that will deal with the safety. 662 00:37:30,948 --> 00:37:34,884 The central control of the army, CENTCOM, supported this measurement. 663 00:37:34,952 --> 00:37:37,580 The CENTCOM included in his plan... 664 00:37:37,655 --> 00:37:39,020 to re-restore the Iraqi army. 665 00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:40,819 They used it to seal the borders... 666 00:37:40,891 --> 00:37:43,189 to contribute static safety... 667 00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:45,388 and to help to reconstruct your own nation. 668 00:37:45,630 --> 00:37:49,361 But on April 23, 2003, Jay Garner received a call. 669 00:37:49,433 --> 00:37:51,526 Rumsfeld called me and said... 670 00:37:51,602 --> 00:37:53,661 " I like everything what it is spending{passing}. 671 00:37:53,738 --> 00:37:55,672 " They are doing a big work. 672 00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:57,640 " I am glad that they are in Baghdad, certainly... 673 00:37:57,708 --> 00:38:00,905 " the president it has named Jerry Bremer... 674 00:38:00,978 --> 00:38:02,343 " presidential envoy ". 675 00:38:02,413 --> 00:38:05,109 MANAGER, PROVISIONAL AUTHORITY 676 00:38:05,182 --> 00:38:07,946 Bremer was an ancient{former} diplomatic official. 677 00:38:08,019 --> 00:38:09,577 As other officials... 678 00:38:09,654 --> 00:38:11,246 Bremer was not speaking Arabic... 679 00:38:11,322 --> 00:38:13,483 it had no experience in the Middle East... 680 00:38:13,557 --> 00:38:15,616 or in reconstruction of postwar period... 681 00:38:15,693 --> 00:38:17,854 and it had never served in the army. 682 00:38:18,396 --> 00:38:21,194 After the arrival of Bremer, the ORHA would move back{retire} progressively... 683 00:38:21,265 --> 00:38:24,132 and the Authority Provisional of the Coalition, the CPA... 684 00:38:24,201 --> 00:38:26,032 it would take his place. 685 00:38:26,103 --> 00:38:29,334 We want to do a delivery very effective and efficient... 686 00:38:29,407 --> 00:38:30,407 BREMER COMES TO BAGHDAD 687 00:38:30,441 --> 00:38:34,104 ... and organized well. 688 00:38:34,178 --> 00:38:38,046 General Garner and I we are promised to be employed at team{equipment}. 689 00:38:38,115 --> 00:38:39,377 It has done a big work. 690 00:38:39,450 --> 00:38:41,111 We inform it about everything... 691 00:38:41,185 --> 00:38:43,119 one day passed seeing what was each one doing... 692 00:38:43,187 --> 00:38:44,745 and, then, it took the control. 693 00:38:44,822 --> 00:38:47,188 I returned to house 3, 4 or on June 5. 694 00:38:47,625 --> 00:38:52,187 THE REBELLION OF BREMER 695 00:38:52,930 --> 00:38:56,161 Between May 1 and May 10, when it went out towards Iraq... 696 00:38:56,300 --> 00:38:57,562 Bremer was employed at the Pentagon... 697 00:38:57,635 --> 00:39:00,729 and he{she} met often with Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz... 698 00:39:00,805 --> 00:39:03,273 and the undersecretary Doug Feith. 699 00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:06,105 Bremer also worked with Walter Slocombe... 700 00:39:06,177 --> 00:39:08,042 ancient{former} undersecretary of Defense... 701 00:39:08,112 --> 00:39:11,604 whom Rumsfeld entrusted the politics of postwar period... 702 00:39:11,682 --> 00:39:13,081 for the Iraqi army. 703 00:39:13,150 --> 00:39:16,085 They called me in the middle of May, 2003. 704 00:39:16,153 --> 00:39:18,144 He{She} thought in some moment... 705 00:39:18,222 --> 00:39:21,350 what was a little late to think about that? 706 00:39:21,425 --> 00:39:22,687 ADVISER FOR DEFENSE AND NATIONAL SAFETY 707 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,489 Yes. 708 00:39:27,164 --> 00:39:28,392 Was it said to them? 709 00:39:28,466 --> 00:39:30,024 Not. 710 00:39:30,101 --> 00:39:31,227 As Bremer... 711 00:39:31,302 --> 00:39:33,293 Slocombe had not served in the army... 712 00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:34,668 it had not gone to Iraq... 713 00:39:34,739 --> 00:39:37,230 it had no experience in reconstruction of postwar period... 714 00:39:37,308 --> 00:39:39,742 and he{she} was not speaking Arabic. 715 00:39:39,810 --> 00:39:41,710 In the first 10 days of work of Bremer... 716 00:39:41,779 --> 00:39:43,440 still{yet} in Washington... 717 00:39:43,514 --> 00:39:46,347 it took three fatidical decisions. 718 00:39:46,417 --> 00:39:49,011 The first one was to stop{detain} the formation... 719 00:39:49,086 --> 00:39:51,054 of a provisional Iraqi government... 720 00:39:51,122 --> 00:39:54,023 although Jay Garner it had worked to establish it. 721 00:39:54,091 --> 00:39:55,319 Jay Garner was in favor... 722 00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:57,361 of forming an Iraqi government... 723 00:39:57,428 --> 00:40:02,161 but Baghdad was suppressed of way... 724 00:40:02,233 --> 00:40:04,394 and I do not believe that general Garner knew it... 725 00:40:04,468 --> 00:40:06,129 not I neither. 726 00:40:06,203 --> 00:40:12,073 We were waiting, and he{she} might say that promised us... 727 00:40:12,143 --> 00:40:14,236 that there would be a sovereign government... 728 00:40:14,311 --> 00:40:15,801 almost immediately. 729 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:22,308 " I am in charge and all they will obey me. That is quite. 730 00:40:22,386 --> 00:40:23,444 " Understood? ". 731 00:40:23,521 --> 00:40:25,989 This way it was like... 732 00:40:26,056 --> 00:40:27,921 L. Paul Bremer It appeared. 733 00:40:27,992 --> 00:40:33,123 Too loyal and too much dependent on his mission... 734 00:40:33,197 --> 00:40:36,894 to notice that his prompt exclusion of the Iraqis... 735 00:40:36,967 --> 00:40:39,731 of the process of capture of decisions... 736 00:40:39,804 --> 00:40:41,169 it was a catastrophic error. 737 00:40:41,238 --> 00:40:46,301 L. Paul Bremer He{She} refused to be interviewed for this documentary. 738 00:40:46,377 --> 00:40:51,178 In May, 2003 we had the legal occupation of Iraq. 739 00:40:51,248 --> 00:40:53,478 In that moment I said it, and now I believe... 740 00:40:53,551 --> 00:40:56,076 that was an error. 741 00:40:56,153 --> 00:40:57,313 We want that EE.UU... 742 00:40:57,388 --> 00:40:59,322 leave Iraq completely... 743 00:40:59,390 --> 00:41:02,848 and that allow to the Iraqi people to govern Iraq. 744 00:41:02,927 --> 00:41:04,986 The reaction against his following decisions... 745 00:41:05,062 --> 00:41:06,188 it would be worse enough. 746 00:41:07,731 --> 00:41:09,926 Desbaazificaci�n. 747 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,664 I restore today an Iraqi commission for the desbaazificaci�n... 748 00:41:14,738 --> 00:41:17,571 so that the structure and the influence... 749 00:41:17,641 --> 00:41:19,871 of the party Baaz they are eliminated forever. 750 00:41:19,944 --> 00:41:21,206 His second decision... 751 00:41:21,278 --> 00:41:24,111 his first formal order at the head of the CPA... 752 00:41:24,181 --> 00:41:27,548 it eliminated approximately 50.000 members of the party Baaz... 753 00:41:27,618 --> 00:41:30,109 that Saddam had used to govern Iraq. 754 00:41:30,187 --> 00:41:33,714 For the majority, the order of Bremer he{she} supposed the permanent unemployment. 755 00:41:33,791 --> 00:41:36,021 Also it paralyzed the Iraqi government... 756 00:41:36,093 --> 00:41:38,323 the educational system and the economy... 757 00:41:38,395 --> 00:41:40,295 on having eliminated expert officials... 758 00:41:40,364 --> 00:41:41,388 that joined the party... 759 00:41:41,465 --> 00:41:44,127 only to survive to the diet{regime} of Saddam. 760 00:41:44,201 --> 00:41:46,226 Ambassadress Robin Raphel... 761 00:41:46,303 --> 00:41:47,736 he{she} said to me: " Have you seen this? ". 762 00:41:47,805 --> 00:41:48,965 I said: " What happens{passes}? ". 763 00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:51,030 " Desbaazificaci�n ". 764 00:41:51,108 --> 00:41:53,303 I read it superficially and said... 765 00:41:53,377 --> 00:41:55,106 " I believe that we will not be able to do it ". 766 00:41:55,179 --> 00:41:57,409 He{She} said: " I believe that it is necessary to speak with Jerry ". 767 00:41:57,481 --> 00:41:59,210 We went to see it and I said... 768 00:41:59,283 --> 00:42:00,750 " Allow us to deal... 769 00:42:00,818 --> 00:42:02,217 " to call Rumsfeld... 770 00:42:02,286 --> 00:42:03,480 " to smooth it ". 771 00:42:03,554 --> 00:42:05,488 He said: " I do not have this flexibility. 772 00:42:05,556 --> 00:42:07,217 " I have orders that to fulfill ". 773 00:42:07,291 --> 00:42:08,781 The discussion was finished. 774 00:42:08,859 --> 00:42:11,987 Perhaps he{she} was coming to speak with me in some moment... 775 00:42:12,062 --> 00:42:13,859 I do not remember it, really that not. 776 00:42:13,931 --> 00:42:15,899 He{She} does not remember that these people were saying... 777 00:42:15,966 --> 00:42:18,264 - " are they from 30 to 50.000 persons "? - It can that yes. 778 00:42:18,335 --> 00:42:19,335 " What do you do? " 779 00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:20,860 I alone... 780 00:42:20,938 --> 00:42:23,338 It was working 20 hours a day at that time. 781 00:42:23,407 --> 00:42:26,205 It was not the only thing that it had to do... 782 00:42:26,277 --> 00:42:28,108 in my first five days to the charge. 783 00:42:28,178 --> 00:42:30,078 Bremer named Ahmed Chalabi... 784 00:42:30,147 --> 00:42:32,479 chief of the commission of desbaazificaci�n. 785 00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:35,781 Chalabi centred in political rivals eliminate. 786 00:42:35,853 --> 00:42:38,151 The desbaazificaci�n was so deep... 787 00:42:38,222 --> 00:42:40,452 that we could not to start the government... 788 00:42:40,524 --> 00:42:42,185 in an effective way... 789 00:42:42,259 --> 00:42:43,385 not with rapidity... 790 00:42:43,460 --> 00:42:46,827 and there were many baazistas without right to vote. 791 00:42:46,897 --> 00:42:48,194 For what do we ask? 792 00:42:48,265 --> 00:42:49,289 I work! I work! 793 00:42:49,366 --> 00:42:52,358 He{She} was beginning{throwing himself} to the people of his employments{jobs}... 794 00:42:52,436 --> 00:42:55,872 although they were only professionals... 795 00:42:55,940 --> 00:42:57,339 PROFESSOR OF HISTORY ANCIENT{FORMER} ADVISER OF BUSH 796 00:42:57,408 --> 00:42:59,205 ... engineers, the directors. 797 00:42:59,276 --> 00:43:01,972 The technocrats, the intelligence... 798 00:43:02,046 --> 00:43:04,879 the librarians of school. 799 00:43:04,949 --> 00:43:07,213 That conquer you and to lose your employment{job}... 800 00:43:07,284 --> 00:43:09,684 to have no means to support your family... 801 00:43:09,753 --> 00:43:12,415 it was a very humiliating experience. 802 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,819 But it was the third decision... 803 00:43:18,896 --> 00:43:21,296 the one that it exploited in the hands. 804 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,566 To dissolve the Iraqi army and the services of intelligence... 805 00:43:26,637 --> 00:43:28,969 the most important institutions of Iraq. 806 00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:30,438 The second order the CPA... 807 00:43:30,507 --> 00:43:33,499 the Iraqi army dissolved, the Republican Guard{Custody}... 808 00:43:33,577 --> 00:43:36,171 the Republican Special Guard{Custody} and the secret police. 809 00:43:36,246 --> 00:43:38,214 From the day until the morning, Bremer desemple�... 810 00:43:38,282 --> 00:43:41,479 and it angered to half a million of armed men... 811 00:43:41,552 --> 00:43:43,986 what he{she} would be equivalent to dismiss{see off} to more than five millions... 812 00:43:44,054 --> 00:43:45,453 in the United States. 813 00:43:45,522 --> 00:43:48,753 Instead of helping to prepare{anticipate} the rebellion, these men... 814 00:43:48,826 --> 00:43:50,851 they created one. 815 00:43:51,528 --> 00:43:56,830 DECLARATIONS OF ANCIENT{FORMER} IRAQI SOLDIERS. 816 00:43:58,168 --> 00:43:59,829 I do not believe that they should do that. 817 00:43:59,903 --> 00:44:04,363 Hundreds of thousands of families they were depending on the army. 818 00:44:04,441 --> 00:44:07,672 They had no income, had no providers. 819 00:44:07,745 --> 00:44:13,911 We are hungry, there is no bread, meal, money, we want to work. 820 00:44:13,984 --> 00:44:18,683 Children, women, wives, sisters, parents... 821 00:44:18,756 --> 00:44:23,193 they stopped eating because there was no sufficient money. 822 00:44:23,260 --> 00:44:26,787 The official number of unemployment is 27 %. 823 00:44:26,864 --> 00:44:30,197 I am sure that it is much more. 824 00:44:30,267 --> 00:44:32,792 He{She} would say that between 40 % and 50 %. 825 00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:34,861 It is not of missing{surprising} that these people... 826 00:44:34,938 --> 00:44:38,305 of that almost they had all military training... 827 00:44:38,375 --> 00:44:40,969 since the military service it is obligatory in Iraq... 828 00:44:41,045 --> 00:44:42,535 or they were active military men... 829 00:44:42,613 --> 00:44:47,778 they were joining the rebellion... 830 00:44:47,851 --> 00:44:49,910 with ends{purposes} of feeding his families... 831 00:44:49,987 --> 00:44:51,648 and of gaining{earning} something of pride. 832 00:44:52,690 --> 00:44:55,557 After the Iraqi army dissolves... 833 00:44:55,626 --> 00:44:57,253 Bremer was undoing a measurement... 834 00:44:57,327 --> 00:45:01,263 supported so much by the army of the USA like{as} for the ORHA. 835 00:45:01,331 --> 00:45:02,992 Paul Hughes had a team{equipment}... 836 00:45:03,067 --> 00:45:05,001 that was looking for the Iraqi army... 837 00:45:05,069 --> 00:45:06,832 and he{she} was finding many soldiers... 838 00:45:06,904 --> 00:45:08,769 and he{she} had already found many people... 839 00:45:08,839 --> 00:45:10,773 because we wanted reinstaurarlo. 840 00:45:10,841 --> 00:45:13,401 On having enlisted, the soldiers had to sign... 841 00:45:13,477 --> 00:45:15,672 or to refill a questionnaire... 842 00:45:15,746 --> 00:45:18,909 on whom were they, in what unit{unity} were they, what they were doing... 843 00:45:18,982 --> 00:45:20,040 what skills did they have... 844 00:45:20,117 --> 00:45:22,312 what did military man equip did they have in house... 845 00:45:22,386 --> 00:45:26,152 a lot of information... 846 00:45:26,223 --> 00:45:28,487 that us would have been useful to us. 847 00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:30,151 I was assembling all that. 848 00:45:30,227 --> 00:45:32,218 But the team{equipment} of advisers of Defense... 849 00:45:32,296 --> 00:45:34,628 that it had to treat with the Iraqi soldiers... 850 00:45:34,698 --> 00:45:36,325 in charge of Walter Slocombe... 851 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,131 it had remained in Washington and he{she} had not visited Iraq. 852 00:45:40,204 --> 00:45:42,069 I said: " I do not see why we have to go. 853 00:45:42,139 --> 00:45:44,630 " I can prepare oneself better in Washington ". 854 00:45:44,708 --> 00:45:47,302 I asked them repeatedly... 855 00:45:47,377 --> 00:45:49,971 when he{she} was speaking with them from Baghdad... 856 00:45:50,047 --> 00:45:51,674 that had to come... 857 00:45:51,749 --> 00:45:54,547 because there were the people waiting for them... 858 00:45:54,618 --> 00:45:56,984 and, in particular, to a man... 859 00:45:57,054 --> 00:46:01,013 so that it was taking decisions and it was starting it. 860 00:46:01,091 --> 00:46:04,390 In his absence, they left to me the task... 861 00:46:04,461 --> 00:46:06,861 of treating with the Iraqi army... 862 00:46:06,930 --> 00:46:08,989 only to support the contact. 863 00:46:09,066 --> 00:46:13,833 The Iraqi army was planted there... 864 00:46:13,904 --> 00:46:15,394 waiting for an approach... 865 00:46:15,472 --> 00:46:18,032 they were waiting what they believed that it would happen{pass}... 866 00:46:18,108 --> 00:46:20,235 that someone was coming... 867 00:46:20,310 --> 00:46:25,646 and he{she} was saying to them: " East is the plan, and you are essential. 868 00:46:25,716 --> 00:46:27,843 " We need them ". 869 00:46:27,918 --> 00:46:29,351 Nobody did it ever. 870 00:46:29,419 --> 00:46:30,545 On having finished the war... 871 00:46:30,621 --> 00:46:32,714 on having finished the principal attacks... 872 00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:36,317 units were already not staying that will work... 873 00:46:36,393 --> 00:46:37,985 they all had gone away to house. 874 00:46:38,061 --> 00:46:39,358 The generals were returning... 875 00:46:39,429 --> 00:46:41,863 with finished divisions saying: " These are mine ". 876 00:46:41,932 --> 00:46:43,627 One of the Iraqi officials... 877 00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:47,568 at the end of the second one or the third meeting{convocation}... 878 00:46:47,638 --> 00:46:53,304 when the chaos was reigning in Baghdad, he{she} said... 879 00:46:53,377 --> 00:46:56,471 " Colonel Paul, I have 10.000 military police officers... 880 00:46:56,547 --> 00:46:59,573 " at your disposal in one week if you need them ". 881 00:46:59,650 --> 00:47:02,619 I transmitted it to the people of Bernie Kerik... 882 00:47:02,686 --> 00:47:04,210 but they did not do anything. 883 00:47:04,288 --> 00:47:10,090 In his place, Bremer ordered{arranged} the dissolution of the army. 884 00:47:10,761 --> 00:47:14,060 Five days after this order... 885 00:47:14,131 --> 00:47:16,065 we were dismissing{seeing off} Jay Garner... 886 00:47:16,133 --> 00:47:19,967 because it was going to leave Iraq forever on the following day. 887 00:47:20,037 --> 00:47:23,666 We were going in two vehicles in the highway... 888 00:47:23,740 --> 00:47:26,436 going out of the Green space... 889 00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:30,105 when the emboscaron and they killed two soldiers. 890 00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:33,877 In my opinion, that one was the beginning of the rebellion. 891 00:47:35,919 --> 00:47:40,652 We go, go, go! We go, go, go! 892 00:47:40,724 --> 00:47:43,625 My companions and I we were sitting down in the balcony... 893 00:47:43,694 --> 00:47:45,992 or in the roof of the Palace of the Republic at night... 894 00:47:46,063 --> 00:47:49,396 and we saw the trackers for the whole Baghdad. 895 00:47:49,466 --> 00:47:52,594 We saw the flares of different colors to rise... 896 00:47:52,669 --> 00:47:54,830 indicating ad�nde they were going... 897 00:47:54,905 --> 00:47:57,806 the convoys of the USA. of certain compositions... 898 00:47:57,875 --> 00:47:59,934 and how were the insurgents following{continued} them. 899 00:48:00,010 --> 00:48:03,241 Iraq was possessing 10 big deposits of weapon 900 00:48:03,313 --> 00:48:06,248 and many more stores of ammunition without watching. 901 00:48:06,316 --> 00:48:10,082 There were no sufficient soldiers of the USA to watch them. 902 00:48:10,153 --> 00:48:12,644 They knew where the ammunition was... 903 00:48:12,723 --> 00:48:17,057 they knew how to come to the weapon and how to use them... 904 00:48:17,127 --> 00:48:20,688 and: you try to say to them what do they go away because they do not exist? 905 00:48:20,764 --> 00:48:22,823 He{She} would not recommend the common sense to you. 906 00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:25,164 There were enormous stores of ammunition... 907 00:48:25,235 --> 00:48:28,693 without watching for weeks... 908 00:48:28,772 --> 00:48:32,139 or even some months later of finishing the principal combats. 909 00:48:32,209 --> 00:48:34,143 You see how the insurgents... 910 00:48:34,211 --> 00:48:37,203 they extract missiles, mortars and bombs... 911 00:48:37,281 --> 00:48:39,943 of these stored consignments for the Iraqis... 912 00:48:40,017 --> 00:48:41,780 and hidden in some place. 913 00:48:41,852 --> 00:48:45,015 Then you him{her; you} say to the Britons or to those of the USA, who is... 914 00:48:45,088 --> 00:48:47,181 with your small receiver GPS... 915 00:48:47,257 --> 00:48:48,952 " Boys... 916 00:48:49,026 --> 00:48:52,189 " we have found 18.000 millions of tons of bombs... 917 00:48:52,262 --> 00:48:54,890 " and there is a group of Iraqis with AK-47 s... 918 00:48:54,965 --> 00:48:56,330 " taking them. 919 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,665 " I do not believe that it is the best idea. They are here ". 920 00:48:59,736 --> 00:49:00,930 And they were saying to you... 921 00:49:01,004 --> 00:49:03,438 " There are no sufficient people to cover it ". 922 00:49:03,507 --> 00:49:06,635 One could not believe it, it was not the correct response. 923 00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:09,144 See and deal for your own safety... 924 00:49:09,212 --> 00:49:10,839 for that of the citizens, for all... 925 00:49:10,914 --> 00:49:12,609 it is a bad idea. 926 00:49:25,262 --> 00:49:29,756 Someone him{her; you} warned that to dissolve the army like that... 927 00:49:29,833 --> 00:49:36,102 it would impel, and in fact it impelled, the massive growth of the rebellion? 928 00:49:36,173 --> 00:49:38,004 Certainly not in these terms. 929 00:49:38,075 --> 00:49:40,043 Did nobody say it to himself? 930 00:49:40,110 --> 00:49:41,475 Not. I do not believe that it is true... 931 00:49:41,545 --> 00:49:43,479 but nobody said it, nobody said... 932 00:49:43,547 --> 00:49:44,639 Does not he{she} believe that it is true? 933 00:49:44,715 --> 00:49:46,114 Not, I do not believe that it is true. 934 00:49:46,183 --> 00:49:48,276 Generals' quantity of high status... 935 00:49:48,352 --> 00:49:51,719 they came to the headquarters of the UNO in the Hotel Channel... 936 00:49:51,788 --> 00:49:54,484 and they were very clear on the consequences... 937 00:49:54,558 --> 00:49:56,890 of expressing{emitting} this order... 938 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,427 and of alienating... 939 00:49:58,495 --> 00:50:01,487 to this powerful segment of the society... 940 00:50:01,565 --> 00:50:03,123 that would finish in rebellion. 941 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,499 A Lebanese diplomat called Hassan Salami... 942 00:50:06,570 --> 00:50:09,630 he{she} said to his companion when the generals went away... 943 00:50:09,706 --> 00:50:11,298 after one of the meetings{convocations}... 944 00:50:11,375 --> 00:50:14,776 " I see bullets in his eyes. 945 00:50:14,845 --> 00:50:16,073 " I see bullets in his eyes ". 946 00:50:16,780 --> 00:50:20,238 Even more surprising that the decision to dissolve the army... 947 00:50:20,317 --> 00:50:22,615 it was the form in which this decision was taken... 948 00:50:22,686 --> 00:50:24,415 Secretly, in one week... 949 00:50:24,488 --> 00:50:28,185 for a group of men in Washington that had never gone to Iraq. 950 00:50:28,258 --> 00:50:31,022 They did not consult it with the commanders in Iraq... 951 00:50:31,094 --> 00:50:33,028 not with the chiefs of staff sets... 952 00:50:33,096 --> 00:50:34,927 not with the ORHA, the department of the state{condition}... 953 00:50:34,998 --> 00:50:37,865 not with the CIA not even the Council of National Safety... 954 00:50:37,934 --> 00:50:42,928 not even, as it seems, with the president of the USA. 955 00:50:43,006 --> 00:50:45,804 We interviewed again to Walter Slocombe and to Paul Hughes... 956 00:50:45,876 --> 00:50:47,707 to reconstruct the events{cases}... 957 00:50:47,778 --> 00:50:49,803 that led to the dissolution of the army. 958 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,782 They were called to yes same Military Independent meeting{convocation}. 959 00:50:53,850 --> 00:50:58,310 This meeting{convocation} was already counting with 100.000 persons on May 9... 960 00:50:58,388 --> 00:50:59,582 Did they already have 100.000? 961 00:50:59,656 --> 00:51:01,624 Yes, it was a national effort. 962 00:51:01,691 --> 00:51:04,387 He{She} wanted all the copies... 963 00:51:04,461 --> 00:51:07,328 all the discs, and they gave them to me... 964 00:51:07,397 --> 00:51:10,059 and I took them to him to the ORHA. 965 00:51:10,133 --> 00:51:13,261 I said to them: " Here they have ", and I said to Walt and to his team{equipment}... 966 00:51:13,336 --> 00:51:16,169 " I have all this waiting for you ". 967 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:22,906 Hughes was thinking about being in contact with Iraqi officials... 968 00:51:22,979 --> 00:51:25,846 that would have been ready to re-constitute the units. 969 00:51:25,916 --> 00:51:29,511 It had already obtained 137.000 declarations{statements} of conscription. 970 00:51:29,586 --> 00:51:34,785 Not. It had not done it. It is possible that it had... 971 00:51:34,858 --> 00:51:38,191 Nobody might have obtained declarations{statements} of 130.000 not at all... 972 00:51:38,261 --> 00:51:41,389 for nothing, in the chaos that was reigning in this moment. 973 00:51:41,465 --> 00:51:43,399 They had a system of courier service... 974 00:51:43,467 --> 00:51:47,995 that was covering the area metropolitan of Baghdad... 975 00:51:48,071 --> 00:51:51,734 of Mosul, of Basora and of Kirkuk. 976 00:51:51,808 --> 00:51:54,606 I do not understand... 977 00:51:56,613 --> 00:51:59,878 Considering the difficulty to do any thing... 978 00:51:59,950 --> 00:52:02,646 in the ambience of the operations and the organization... 979 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,653 nobody had 137.000. 980 00:52:04,721 --> 00:52:06,484 Walt was not there. 981 00:52:06,556 --> 00:52:09,548 He{She} never met with them, it did not have it nor designs. 982 00:52:09,626 --> 00:52:12,720 Did he{she} say to Slocombe what happened? 983 00:52:12,796 --> 00:52:15,856 Yes, it was known it. He{it} and his team{equipment}. 984 00:52:15,932 --> 00:52:17,456 You had already done him... 985 00:52:17,534 --> 00:52:20,196 a recommendation to ambassador Bremer... 986 00:52:20,270 --> 00:52:24,172 and �I had done a try of recommendation... 987 00:52:24,241 --> 00:52:26,232 to secretary Rumsfeld... 988 00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:29,176 on the dissolution of the army... 989 00:52:29,246 --> 00:52:32,010 On the emission of the order in the end it expressed{emitted}, yes. 990 00:52:32,082 --> 00:52:34,949 Yes, on May 9. 991 00:52:35,018 --> 00:52:36,383 - Yes. - Very well. 992 00:52:36,453 --> 00:52:39,684 May 9 was the last time that I had a conversation... 993 00:52:39,756 --> 00:52:41,883 with Walt Slocombe. 994 00:52:41,958 --> 00:52:44,426 We speak by phone before I was going away. 995 00:52:44,494 --> 00:52:45,586 One day he{she} said to him... 996 00:52:45,662 --> 00:52:48,153 " We are thinking in the army dissolves... 997 00:52:48,231 --> 00:52:50,392 " and to stop{detain} your efforts to reform it "? 998 00:52:50,467 --> 00:52:52,833 One of the things that I did... 999 00:52:52,903 --> 00:52:55,428 Did he{she} say it to himself ever? 1000 00:52:55,505 --> 00:52:56,972 With these words, not. 1001 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,134 The conversation was: " I go for there. 1002 00:53:00,210 --> 00:53:02,440 " It worries me where I am going to live. 1003 00:53:02,512 --> 00:53:05,037 " Will I have vehicles at my disposal? 1004 00:53:05,115 --> 00:53:07,811 " My own cooks? ". Bla, bla, bla. 1005 00:53:07,884 --> 00:53:11,081 It was not a question of the Iraqi army. 1006 00:53:11,154 --> 00:53:13,645 I was informing him on the matter... 1007 00:53:13,723 --> 00:53:15,850 He{She} did not say that there was already... 1008 00:53:15,926 --> 00:53:18,053 come to the conclusion... 1009 00:53:18,128 --> 00:53:20,858 and it had recommended to Bremer the dissolution of the army? 1010 00:53:20,931 --> 00:53:23,058 Insurance that not, because in this case... 1011 00:53:23,133 --> 00:53:26,466 he{she} would have been going to see Jay immediately. 1012 00:53:26,536 --> 00:53:29,061 This idea occurred to them... 1013 00:53:29,139 --> 00:53:31,164 and it was recommended to Rumsfeld... 1014 00:53:31,241 --> 00:53:34,972 without speaking with anybody in Iraq that was responsible... 1015 00:53:35,045 --> 00:53:36,444 of these matters? 1016 00:53:36,513 --> 00:53:40,540 It was hanging, and, precisely, due to... 1017 00:53:40,617 --> 00:53:43,586 that only had been thought for some days... 1018 00:53:43,653 --> 00:53:46,315 because Bremer was going away to Iraq and he{she} said to Rumsfeld... 1019 00:53:46,389 --> 00:53:50,155 " Before doing a recommendation, I will speak with the people there ". 1020 00:53:50,493 --> 00:53:53,121 Bremer came to Baghdad on May 12. 1021 00:53:53,196 --> 00:53:57,496 His consultations with the people in ground they were brief or nonexistent. 1022 00:53:57,567 --> 00:53:59,762 Did he{she} surprise it? Had they commented on it to themselves? 1023 00:53:59,836 --> 00:54:01,394 Not, nobody said anything to me... 1024 00:54:01,471 --> 00:54:02,904 it was a big surprise. 1025 00:54:02,973 --> 00:54:04,668 - Seriously? - Aha. 1026 00:54:04,741 --> 00:54:07,733 It never called Garner and said: " We want to do this... 1027 00:54:07,811 --> 00:54:09,904 " does it look like to you a good idea? ". 1028 00:54:11,181 --> 00:54:13,149 I believe that not. 1029 00:54:15,018 --> 00:54:16,781 Does not he{she} believe that this was an error? 1030 00:54:16,853 --> 00:54:18,013 Not. 1031 00:54:19,256 --> 00:54:21,087 Was Cu�I his reaction? What did he{she} think? 1032 00:54:21,157 --> 00:54:22,624 It looked like to me awful idea. 1033 00:54:22,692 --> 00:54:25,354 I believed that it was necessary to do the opposite. 1034 00:54:25,762 --> 00:54:30,028 The commanders of the army also they were opposed to the decision of Bremer. 1035 00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:34,036 John Abizaid and Dave McKiernan they were saying to me constantly... 1036 00:54:34,104 --> 00:54:36,836 " Do we worry? " Let's reform the army ". 1037 00:54:36,906 --> 00:54:38,134 Now there are many{many people}... 1038 00:54:38,208 --> 00:54:41,644 ancient{former} Iraqi soldiers without employment{job}. 1039 00:54:41,711 --> 00:54:44,874 Not only it is worrying for the safety... 1040 00:54:44,948 --> 00:54:46,813 but for the economy. 1041 00:54:46,883 --> 00:54:49,249 They already do not have a salary. 1042 00:54:49,319 --> 00:54:51,082 Then he{she} promises to be... 1043 00:54:51,154 --> 00:54:55,887 that the Iraqi army has been dissolved, I remained without words. 1044 00:54:55,959 --> 00:54:59,554 In this epoch, Walt Slocombe and his team{equipment}... 1045 00:54:59,629 --> 00:55:02,359 they still{yet} had not come to Iraq. 1046 00:55:02,432 --> 00:55:04,627 Colonel Hughes was the manager... 1047 00:55:04,701 --> 00:55:06,259 of treating with the Iraqi army... 1048 00:55:06,336 --> 00:55:08,702 because nobody of his group of advice... 1049 00:55:08,772 --> 00:55:12,071 it had gone still to Iraq, included you. 1050 00:55:12,142 --> 00:55:14,838 He{She} did not think that it should to have spoken with �I on this matter? 1051 00:55:14,911 --> 00:55:17,709 - I spoke with �I very much. - It is curious. 1052 00:55:17,781 --> 00:55:20,716 He{She} says that the order to dissolve the army... 1053 00:55:20,784 --> 00:55:22,615 it was an entire surprise for �I... 1054 00:55:22,686 --> 00:55:26,520 and that found out for television in the airport. 1055 00:55:28,024 --> 00:55:29,457 That is... If that is like that... 1056 00:55:29,526 --> 00:55:33,394 I surprise it, but it is impossible. 1057 00:55:33,463 --> 00:55:35,158 I spoke with him{it}... Or, I spoke... 1058 00:55:35,231 --> 00:55:36,823 I... 1059 00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:41,394 We work together every day while I was there. 1060 00:55:41,471 --> 00:55:44,338 - May 16 came. - On May 16? 1061 00:55:44,407 --> 00:55:48,104 For a brief visit of four days for the country. 1062 00:55:48,178 --> 00:55:49,178 Ah. 1063 00:55:49,179 --> 00:55:53,980 Then one went and did not return until middle of June. 1064 00:55:54,050 --> 00:55:56,041 - Seriously? - This way it is. 1065 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,054 Did not he{she} comment on it to himself? 1066 00:55:59,122 --> 00:56:05,152 Jay Garner and Paul Hughes were not the only ones surprised by the order. 1067 00:56:05,228 --> 00:56:07,822 The idea of dissolving the whole army... 1068 00:56:07,897 --> 00:56:09,888 it took me as a surprise. 1069 00:56:09,966 --> 00:56:11,695 I see already. 1070 00:56:11,768 --> 00:56:13,292 Was Cu�I his reaction? 1071 00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:15,497 I thought that we had created a problem. 1072 00:56:15,572 --> 00:56:18,598 There were many unemployed soldiers. 1073 00:56:18,675 --> 00:56:20,336 The president had another idea... 1074 00:56:20,410 --> 00:56:24,107 that was to support assets the battalions and low{lower} status. 1075 00:56:24,180 --> 00:56:25,477 - Earlier, yes. - Yes. 1076 00:56:25,548 --> 00:56:29,006 Concerning a few days. 1077 00:56:29,085 --> 00:56:31,315 To the majority we surprised it a little... 1078 00:56:31,388 --> 00:56:33,686 or completely the dissolution of the army. 1079 00:56:33,757 --> 00:56:37,090 Secretary Powell knew it just as I. 1080 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,388 How? 1081 00:56:38,461 --> 00:56:39,894 We find out the day... 1082 00:56:39,963 --> 00:56:41,863 that Jerry announced the dissolution. 1083 00:56:41,931 --> 00:56:44,764 - And Condoleezza Rice? - That she speaks for yes same. 1084 00:56:44,834 --> 00:56:49,771 Condoleezza Rice refused to be interviewed for this documentary. 1085 00:56:49,839 --> 00:56:51,739 How much did the president know... 1086 00:56:51,808 --> 00:56:53,901 on these decisions in advance? 1087 00:56:53,977 --> 00:56:57,743 I said already before s� if Rumsfeld he{she} had informed him or not. 1088 00:56:57,814 --> 00:56:58,814 It does not even design. 1089 00:56:58,882 --> 00:57:00,873 I was only two hours in the office... 1090 00:57:00,950 --> 00:57:03,885 a young military police officer came and said... 1091 00:57:03,953 --> 00:57:07,150 " Colonel Hughes, there are some Iraqi officials... 1092 00:57:07,223 --> 00:57:09,020 " that want to speak with you ". 1093 00:57:09,092 --> 00:57:11,253 I was saying to myself: " Go for God. 1094 00:57:11,327 --> 00:57:13,227 " What am I going to say to them? ". 1095 00:57:13,296 --> 00:57:15,093 In the end I decided to go down... 1096 00:57:15,165 --> 00:57:19,067 and to meet with them in the Palace of the Republic. 1097 00:57:19,135 --> 00:57:23,731 Colonel Mirjan said: " What has happened{passed}? ". 1098 00:57:23,807 --> 00:57:25,900 I answered him: " I do not know what has happened{passed}. 1099 00:57:25,975 --> 00:57:29,035 " I do not have it nor designs from how has this arisen ". 1100 00:57:29,112 --> 00:57:34,448 He{She} said to me: " All these soldiers they already have no resources{resorts}. 1101 00:57:34,517 --> 00:57:36,007 " Money does not come already to them. 1102 00:57:36,085 --> 00:57:38,053 " What are they going to do now? ". 1103 00:57:52,168 --> 00:57:53,226 Moan, carajo. 1104 00:57:53,303 --> 00:57:57,262 In July, 2003, the insurgents begin to put explosives for the whole Iraq. 1105 00:57:57,340 --> 00:58:00,434 There is a big increase in the falls{casualties} of the soldiers of the USA. 1106 00:58:00,510 --> 00:58:02,034 How many times have I said it to you? 1107 00:58:02,111 --> 00:58:03,703 - Shit! - Carajo! 1108 00:58:03,780 --> 00:58:05,042 Moan, my ear! 1109 00:58:05,114 --> 00:58:06,741 It is necessary to leave from here. 1110 00:58:06,816 --> 00:58:10,115 Some of them believe... 1111 00:58:10,186 --> 00:58:12,552 that the possibility exists of that they attack us. 1112 00:58:12,622 --> 00:58:14,419 My response is that they dare. 1113 00:58:14,491 --> 00:58:16,322 I was going in the bucket. 1114 00:58:17,293 --> 00:58:21,161 The bucket is a vehicle that is not armored. 1115 00:58:21,231 --> 00:58:25,258 If something happens{passes}, it is going to reach you. 1116 00:58:25,335 --> 00:58:27,599 Nobody wants to go there. 1117 00:58:27,904 --> 00:58:32,238 In 2003, only 1 of every 8 vehicles in Iraq it had the appropriate shielding{armor}. 1118 00:58:32,308 --> 00:58:36,972 The explosion gave to me almost directly. 1119 00:58:37,046 --> 00:58:39,708 Then, I went out... 1120 00:58:39,782 --> 00:58:42,546 I started hearing shootings... 1121 00:58:42,619 --> 00:58:47,420 that were approaching ... bang, bang. We start shooting. 1122 00:58:47,490 --> 00:58:50,584 We have a small problem with some resistance... 1123 00:58:50,660 --> 00:58:53,424 traces of the ancient{former} diet{regime}... 1124 00:58:53,496 --> 00:58:56,021 that use military professional tactics... 1125 00:58:56,099 --> 00:59:00,229 to attack and to kill our soldiers, as on the same morning. 1126 00:59:00,303 --> 00:59:01,395 - Not... - He{She} does not believe... 1127 00:59:01,471 --> 00:59:03,063 what is a coordinated campaign? 1128 00:59:03,139 --> 00:59:04,936 - Not, not... - That is guerrillas... 1129 00:59:05,008 --> 00:59:07,841 that we have brought in{approached} in the phase of guerrilla war? 1130 00:59:07,911 --> 00:59:09,902 Because of this explosion... 1131 00:59:09,979 --> 00:59:15,110 I suffered an injury cerebral traumatic sharp... 1132 00:59:15,184 --> 00:59:19,587 and I lost the perception of the light in the right eye. 1133 00:59:21,391 --> 00:59:23,757 I suffered damages in the left eye... 1134 00:59:23,826 --> 00:59:28,923 that they caused a hole to blacken in the retina... 1135 00:59:28,998 --> 00:59:34,959 but we fight, fight up to the high place to the fire. 1136 00:59:35,038 --> 00:59:38,997 I was a gunner. My driver it lost two legs... 1137 00:59:39,075 --> 00:59:41,407 and I went out flying of the car... 1138 00:59:41,477 --> 00:59:47,313 and I suffered a break of femur, almost I lose the right arm... 1139 00:59:47,383 --> 00:59:51,513 me colaps� a lung and I had internal wounds in the head. 1140 00:59:51,588 --> 00:59:55,922 Since then, I have looked in the dictionary... 1141 00:59:55,992 --> 00:59:58,586 some things, of which I do not remember very much... 1142 00:59:58,661 --> 01:00:00,788 but one was a " guerrilla war "... 1143 01:00:00,863 --> 01:00:03,423 the different one was a " rebellion ", another age... 1144 01:00:03,499 --> 01:00:05,296 slightly conventional " war ". Pardon? 1145 01:00:05,368 --> 01:00:08,269 Impasse? 1146 01:00:08,338 --> 01:00:12,138 Not, of that another person takes charge... 1147 01:00:12,208 --> 01:00:13,835 I do not do these things. 1148 01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:16,936 I meet an expert in counter-insurgency. 1149 01:00:17,013 --> 01:00:21,040 It was in the palace where the CPA has his headquarters... 1150 01:00:21,117 --> 01:00:23,176 and he{she} was speaking with a colonel of the army... 1151 01:00:23,252 --> 01:00:25,447 that was sitting down nearby of the office of Bremer. 1152 01:00:25,521 --> 01:00:29,787 The word " rebellion " and the colonel used... 1153 01:00:29,859 --> 01:00:34,159 it raised the hand and said: " In Iraq there is no rebellion. 1154 01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:36,858 " There is a high level of popular violence ". 1155 01:00:37,767 --> 01:00:39,234 The safety problem... 1156 01:00:39,302 --> 01:00:43,568 progressively it prevented us to realize our work. 1157 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:50,102 He{She} would have wanted to establish commissions of advice in the quarters. 1158 01:00:50,179 --> 01:00:51,703 Three general managers... 1159 01:00:51,781 --> 01:00:56,241 they gave perhaps the presentation more coherent on the structure... 1160 01:00:56,319 --> 01:01:00,585 and the organization of a city of 1500 years... 1161 01:01:00,657 --> 01:01:02,090 that could happen{exist}. 1162 01:01:02,158 --> 01:01:08,290 One of them got overturned in a plan... 1163 01:01:08,364 --> 01:01:10,264 for the groups of advice. 1164 01:01:10,333 --> 01:01:17,034 It had designed a local democratization beginning from the people{village}. 1165 01:01:17,106 --> 01:01:19,734 It was a beautiful plan. 1166 01:01:19,809 --> 01:01:20,935 And: what happened? 1167 01:01:21,010 --> 01:01:22,136 It was murdered. 1168 01:01:22,211 --> 01:01:24,076 The country descontrolaba more and more... 1169 01:01:24,147 --> 01:01:26,843 all the time, and I believe that, somehow... 1170 01:01:26,916 --> 01:01:28,713 Bremer and his assistants did not know... 1171 01:01:28,785 --> 01:01:32,744 the bad thing on that the things were putting themselves beyond the walls of containment. 1172 01:01:33,690 --> 01:01:37,751 THE PROVISIONAL AUTHORITY OF THE COALITION 1173 01:01:42,398 --> 01:01:45,231 With his head office in the ancient{former} one Palace of the Republic of Saddam... 1174 01:01:45,301 --> 01:01:48,600 the enclosure of the CPA, called the Green space... 1175 01:01:48,671 --> 01:01:51,196 it was protected by 12 km from walls. 1176 01:01:53,242 --> 01:01:56,905 There were enormous lines of Iraqis, engineers, officials... 1177 01:01:56,979 --> 01:01:58,105 JOURNALIST IN BAGHDAD FROM APRIL, 2003 1178 01:01:58,181 --> 01:02:00,149 They wanted to help, to translate... 1179 01:02:00,216 --> 01:02:03,242 In line on the verge of the palace... 1180 01:02:03,319 --> 01:02:06,049 they were making them wait and nobody was receiving them. 1181 01:02:06,122 --> 01:02:08,716 They were saying to them that they should and were doing not returning. 1182 01:02:08,791 --> 01:02:10,782 The people were trying his{her} one, two... 1183 01:02:10,860 --> 01:02:12,293 three times and it is already. 1184 01:02:12,361 --> 01:02:13,828 He{She} hated the Green space. 1185 01:02:13,896 --> 01:02:16,763 It was going out whenever it could to meet with the Iraqis... 1186 01:02:16,833 --> 01:02:18,994 to go to his hearths and to listen to his complaints... 1187 01:02:19,068 --> 01:02:20,262 and his opinions. 1188 01:02:20,336 --> 01:02:22,270 Then he{she} was saying to Dan Senor... 1189 01:02:22,338 --> 01:02:25,466 " They have a problem, they do not speak with the Iraqis ". 1190 01:02:25,708 --> 01:02:29,974 Dan Senor, the spokesman of press of Bremer, he{she} does not speak Arabic. 1191 01:02:30,046 --> 01:02:33,846 Almost no high control about the CPA he{she} was speaking Arabic. 1192 01:02:33,916 --> 01:02:36,612 Five or six were counted{told}... 1193 01:02:36,686 --> 01:02:40,713 between the 40, 50 � 70 more important officials. 1194 01:02:40,790 --> 01:02:44,226 We had regional experts that had served in Iraq. 1195 01:02:44,293 --> 01:02:47,023 But since it has researched, many{many people}... 1196 01:02:47,096 --> 01:02:49,291 they did not take part in the initial phase... 1197 01:02:49,365 --> 01:02:52,960 after the invasion of Iraq and the initial occupation... 1198 01:02:53,035 --> 01:02:55,003 so this skill got lost. 1199 01:02:55,071 --> 01:02:58,336 How did it finish his stage there. 1200 01:02:58,407 --> 01:03:00,568 - Mm... - I understand... 1201 01:03:00,643 --> 01:03:01,667 that is a difficult topic. 1202 01:03:01,744 --> 01:03:03,507 Say to us what he{she} should want. 1203 01:03:03,579 --> 01:03:05,604 Mm... 1204 01:03:05,681 --> 01:03:09,879 He{She} would say that it ended long before what he{she} was thinking... 1205 01:03:09,952 --> 01:03:13,888 and very much earlier of what I had wanted. 1206 01:03:13,956 --> 01:03:16,789 I had liked being... 1207 01:03:16,859 --> 01:03:18,451 and to try to give everything... 1208 01:03:18,528 --> 01:03:20,758 Considering the frustrations and the limitations... 1209 01:03:20,830 --> 01:03:24,266 much was deserving the sorrow{sentence} to be in this place... 1210 01:03:24,333 --> 01:03:26,494 and to try to do what we wanted to do. 1211 01:03:26,569 --> 01:03:28,002 Why did they dismiss{see off} her? 1212 01:03:28,070 --> 01:03:31,335 I know why. They said it to me. 1213 01:03:31,407 --> 01:03:32,772 Why? 1214 01:03:32,842 --> 01:03:34,139 It was difficult to treat... 1215 01:03:34,210 --> 01:03:37,407 and it was giving opinions... 1216 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,415 that were going against the current of the epoch in Baghdad. 1217 01:03:40,483 --> 01:03:45,443 Since Bremer appeared, the new people were coming to us. 1218 01:03:45,521 --> 01:03:49,082 Newly adjusted as the school: do you know? 1219 01:03:49,158 --> 01:03:51,319 They had the secondary one... 1220 01:03:51,394 --> 01:03:54,158 from the autumn ... the previous spring. 1221 01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:57,028 Papi did a contribution to the campaign... 1222 01:03:57,099 --> 01:03:59,363 and the child has the opportunity to come... 1223 01:03:59,435 --> 01:04:03,098 and to live through a full trip of diversion and adventure. 1224 01:04:03,172 --> 01:04:06,141 Dad's children, this way I was calling them... 1225 01:04:06,209 --> 01:04:09,906 and they were sitting down opposite to the door of Bremer and they were not doing anything. 1226 01:04:09,979 --> 01:04:11,139 In my stay... 1227 01:04:11,214 --> 01:04:12,340 MANAGER OF ONG AND PROFESSOR 1228 01:04:12,415 --> 01:04:13,643 ... in the Green space... 1229 01:04:13,716 --> 01:04:15,809 I met one of my students... 1230 01:04:15,885 --> 01:04:17,352 newly graduated. 1231 01:04:17,420 --> 01:04:20,389 I asked him what it was doing there and he{she} said to me... 1232 01:04:20,456 --> 01:04:21,582 radiant of happiness... 1233 01:04:21,657 --> 01:04:23,625 " They have asked me to do... 1234 01:04:23,693 --> 01:04:26,253 " the plan of traffic for the city ". 1235 01:04:26,329 --> 01:04:29,696 I asked him if it was known something of municipal planning... 1236 01:04:29,765 --> 01:04:31,460 and he{she} said to me that not. 1237 01:04:33,035 --> 01:04:35,401 Newly gone out of the school... 1238 01:04:35,471 --> 01:04:38,565 and supervised by something quite complicated... 1239 01:04:38,641 --> 01:04:41,439 to say the least, and seeing the traffic of Baghdad... 1240 01:04:41,510 --> 01:04:42,841 the need is obvious. 1241 01:04:42,912 --> 01:04:46,109 Almost all the officials they had contracts of three months. 1242 01:04:46,182 --> 01:04:47,706 As soon as they were creating... 1243 01:04:47,783 --> 01:04:50,013 the suitable relations with the Iraqis... 1244 01:04:50,086 --> 01:04:54,546 in 90 days, 100 days, 120 days, they were going away to house... 1245 01:04:54,624 --> 01:04:58,924 and there is nothing worse than that to direct an organization. 1246 01:04:58,995 --> 01:05:00,360 There was a preference... 1247 01:05:00,429 --> 01:05:01,794 SPECIALIST IN BUDGET CATEDR�TICA 1248 01:05:01,864 --> 01:05:04,628 ... much egg white of the Pentagon... 1249 01:05:04,700 --> 01:05:08,192 for that the companies of the USA they were doing the work. 1250 01:05:08,271 --> 01:05:12,708 There were numerous cases in that Iraqi contractors... 1251 01:05:12,775 --> 01:05:15,073 they proposed to do the same work... 1252 01:05:15,144 --> 01:05:17,305 for much less money... 1253 01:05:17,380 --> 01:05:19,610 that the contractors of the USA. 1254 01:05:19,682 --> 01:05:21,980 Ann and I had a different approach... 1255 01:05:22,051 --> 01:05:24,349 to that of many units of the coalition... 1256 01:05:24,420 --> 01:05:27,355 because we work in team{equipment} with the Iraqis. 1257 01:05:27,423 --> 01:05:30,221 If we were going to meetings{convocations}, it was with Americans... 1258 01:05:30,293 --> 01:05:31,385 THE FIRST LIEUTENANT, MARINATES 1259 01:05:31,460 --> 01:05:35,328 ... and Iraqis, and the Iraqis they had the same voice as we. 1260 01:05:35,398 --> 01:05:37,958 We were constructing our fortresses... 1261 01:05:38,034 --> 01:05:39,501 along with{near to} those of the army... 1262 01:05:39,568 --> 01:05:42,196 that was using a big contractor of the USA, Parsons. 1263 01:05:42,271 --> 01:05:44,762 We were designing and constructing our fortresses... 1264 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,138 in approximately five months. 1265 01:05:47,209 --> 01:05:48,938 On having gone away, the fortresses of Parsons... 1266 01:05:49,011 --> 01:05:51,206 begun one year before we come... 1267 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:52,406 they were still not finished. 1268 01:05:52,748 --> 01:05:56,707 The fortresses of Seth Moulton and Ann Gildroy they cost 200.000 dollars. 1269 01:05:56,786 --> 01:05:59,084 Those of Parsons cost 1200 million dollars. 1270 01:05:59,155 --> 01:06:02,750 The officials of the army often they were going out to the street... 1271 01:06:02,825 --> 01:06:06,283 to spend the small quantity of funds that they had... 1272 01:06:06,362 --> 01:06:10,526 for immediate action in, let's say, to clean the streets... 1273 01:06:10,599 --> 01:06:14,467 to realize temporary progress in the drainage system... 1274 01:06:14,537 --> 01:06:15,697 On having been finished... 1275 01:06:15,771 --> 01:06:18,205 this small quantity of money in that... 1276 01:06:18,274 --> 01:06:19,866 everything was relapsing into the CPA. 1277 01:06:19,942 --> 01:06:21,910 " We need this and this... 1278 01:06:21,978 --> 01:06:24,947 " for these projects, and it will cost so much ". 1279 01:06:25,014 --> 01:06:29,110 It was disappearing, simply it was disappearing. 1280 01:06:29,185 --> 01:06:30,311 " And my request? " 1281 01:06:30,386 --> 01:06:31,785 " What request? " 1282 01:06:31,854 --> 01:06:34,880 That was not stopping recuring. 1283 01:06:35,157 --> 01:06:40,857 18.000 million dollars happened{existed} for the reconstruction in October, 2003. 1284 01:06:40,930 --> 01:06:44,991 18.000 million dollars that the Congress promised... 1285 01:06:45,067 --> 01:06:48,764 they were misinterpreted and were wasted... 1286 01:06:48,838 --> 01:06:50,066 if it went so far as to spend. 1287 01:06:50,139 --> 01:06:51,970 We will produce sufficient electricity... 1288 01:06:52,041 --> 01:06:53,372 so that in the whole Iraq there is... 1289 01:06:53,442 --> 01:06:56,411 electrical{electric} service 24 hours of the day... 1290 01:06:56,479 --> 01:07:00,313 essential for his hopes of future. 1291 01:07:00,383 --> 01:07:04,945 There was fraud, corruption and squandering. 1292 01:07:05,221 --> 01:07:09,590 One year later, only 1.000 million of dollars they had been invested in Iraq. 1293 01:07:09,658 --> 01:07:12,422 The normal people obtain electricity... 1294 01:07:12,495 --> 01:07:15,055 only two or three hours a day. 1295 01:07:15,131 --> 01:07:19,227 The water comes occasionally, every two or three days. 1296 01:07:19,301 --> 01:07:22,270 We spend{pass} the winter trembling, wrapped in blankets... 1297 01:07:22,338 --> 01:07:27,173 because we have no fuel for the heaters. 1298 01:07:27,243 --> 01:07:30,076 This way it is our life. 1299 01:07:45,394 --> 01:07:46,986 In May, 2003... 1300 01:07:47,063 --> 01:07:49,156 the United Nations he{she} sent his best expert... 1301 01:07:49,231 --> 01:07:52,598 in reconstruction of postwar period to help in the occupation of the USA. 1302 01:07:52,668 --> 01:07:55,569 He was a Brazilian diplomat so-called Sergio Vieira de Mello. 1303 01:07:55,638 --> 01:07:56,638 SPECIAL REPRESENTATIVE OF THE UNO 1304 01:07:56,672 --> 01:07:59,505 Although they were not leaving that the UNO it was making nothing important... 1305 01:07:59,575 --> 01:08:01,543 Kofi Annan said: " I will send the best. 1306 01:08:01,610 --> 01:08:05,341 " If someone can leave well the UNO... 1307 01:08:05,414 --> 01:08:07,382 " this is Sergio Vieira de Mello ". 1308 01:08:07,450 --> 01:08:09,475 I belonged to his team{equipment}, I was his... 1309 01:08:09,552 --> 01:08:12,850 SPECIAL ADVISER OF THE UNO ... political principal adviser... 1310 01:08:12,922 --> 01:08:15,117 and we were together to Baghdad. 1311 01:08:15,191 --> 01:08:18,024 All our political team{equipment} he{she} was speaking Arabic... 1312 01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:22,155 and it had experience working in the region and others. 1313 01:08:22,231 --> 01:08:24,256 One of the best things that Sergio did... 1314 01:08:24,333 --> 01:08:25,800 with hindsight the fact was that... 1315 01:08:25,868 --> 01:08:29,099 on having seen that the USA had shut itself up... 1316 01:08:29,171 --> 01:08:34,131 in the Green space and it was not going out to the streets of Iraq... 1317 01:08:34,210 --> 01:08:36,576 Sergio created a structure in Iraq... 1318 01:08:36,645 --> 01:08:38,340 that was the opposite to the Green space. 1319 01:08:38,414 --> 01:08:40,006 Call it the Green Antiarea. 1320 01:08:40,082 --> 01:08:43,779 I hear the political leaders... 1321 01:08:43,853 --> 01:08:46,515 to say that we will meet every day. 1322 01:08:46,589 --> 01:08:49,183 We discuss often with the soldiers... 1323 01:08:49,258 --> 01:08:53,592 that were coming to the UNO to speak with Sergio Vieira de Mello... 1324 01:08:53,662 --> 01:08:56,096 and they were asking him to come up... 1325 01:08:56,165 --> 01:08:59,032 in the dispute{argument} that the CPA was supporting with. 1326 01:08:59,101 --> 01:09:01,296 You saw long lines on the outside of the Green space... 1327 01:09:01,370 --> 01:09:03,702 but nobody heard his complaints. 1328 01:09:03,772 --> 01:09:07,469 On the contrary, the enclosure of the UNO it was completely an open sea. 1329 01:09:07,543 --> 01:09:10,512 If you wanted to complain, the UNO it was more than arranged... 1330 01:09:10,579 --> 01:09:13,412 to listen to you, and Sergio saw as{like} his mission... 1331 01:09:13,482 --> 01:09:15,780 to spend{pass} these complaints to Bremer, to the highest thing... 1332 01:09:15,851 --> 01:09:17,876 with the hope that they were doing something... 1333 01:09:17,953 --> 01:09:20,251 before the rebellion was becoming strong. 1334 01:09:20,322 --> 01:09:22,847 I meet with �I often... 1335 01:09:22,925 --> 01:09:26,122 and I share my advices{councils} and my experience. 1336 01:09:26,195 --> 01:09:29,164 As soon as Bremer obtained what he{she} wanted of Sergio... 1337 01:09:29,231 --> 01:09:30,960 of the UNO... 1338 01:09:31,033 --> 01:09:33,934 it already did not have any more time for the United Nations. 1339 01:09:34,003 --> 01:09:35,493 Through what Sergio lived... 1340 01:09:35,571 --> 01:09:38,404 there were two months of being used, literally... 1341 01:09:38,474 --> 01:09:41,739 to come to certain segments of the Iraqi society... 1342 01:09:41,810 --> 01:09:43,141 and, in his last month... 1343 01:09:43,212 --> 01:09:45,806 he{she} had to support they neither that nor him were answering the phone. 1344 01:09:45,881 --> 01:09:48,076 Matters as{like} political of detention... 1345 01:09:48,150 --> 01:09:50,948 to hood the prisoners, there were topics that Sergio... 1346 01:09:51,020 --> 01:09:54,217 it was treating repeatedly with Bremer and with general S�nchez... 1347 01:09:54,290 --> 01:09:57,259 but Bremer was not interested in. 1348 01:10:05,968 --> 01:10:10,598 Three or four crucial months after the fall of Baghdad... 1349 01:10:10,673 --> 01:10:14,439 two principal things that the soldiers of the USA were doing, were... 1350 01:10:14,510 --> 01:10:18,674 to look for weapon of massive destruction and to Saddam Hussein. 1351 01:10:18,747 --> 01:10:21,045 The process of these searches... 1352 01:10:21,116 --> 01:10:23,141 throwing{shooting} doors below in the night... 1353 01:10:23,219 --> 01:10:25,813 intimidating the people, taking them to Abu Ghraib... 1354 01:10:25,888 --> 01:10:29,984 doing detentions in mass, it had a bitter effect. 1355 01:10:36,031 --> 01:10:37,828 We go! Forward! 1356 01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:40,425 We go! We go! 1357 01:10:54,183 --> 01:10:56,617 If you were Iraqi in military age... 1358 01:10:56,685 --> 01:10:59,711 in an area of operations of the army of EE.UU... 1359 01:10:59,788 --> 01:11:01,619 it was very probable that they were arresting you... 1360 01:11:01,690 --> 01:11:05,421 or they will intern{hospitalize; send inland} you as{like} possible insurgent. 1361 01:11:05,494 --> 01:11:08,861 Only for being a man in military age in the area of operations. 1362 01:11:08,931 --> 01:11:10,831 In many occasions, on having removed... 1363 01:11:10,899 --> 01:11:13,527 to the Iraqi in military age of his family... 1364 01:11:13,602 --> 01:11:14,830 you take to the head of the family. 1365 01:11:14,903 --> 01:11:17,736 I have not anybody left, I swear it for the life of Mahoma 1366 01:11:17,806 --> 01:11:20,570 it has not made bad at all. 1367 01:11:20,643 --> 01:11:23,203 Moan, my son, Amer! 1368 01:11:25,281 --> 01:11:28,148 Not only you anger to �I, but to all his family... 1369 01:11:28,217 --> 01:11:31,744 because it is possible that not only it supports to his most nearby family. 1370 01:11:35,224 --> 01:11:38,352 When they heard the helicopters of EE.UU... 1371 01:11:38,427 --> 01:11:40,861 or the tanks of the USA for the streets... 1372 01:11:40,929 --> 01:11:43,295 they were getting up immediately... 1373 01:11:43,365 --> 01:11:45,424 although it was going to two o'clock in the morning... 1374 01:11:45,501 --> 01:11:48,470 and they were prepared for the detention. 1375 01:11:48,537 --> 01:11:52,803 Because for them, even now, it is the normal thing. 1376 01:11:54,176 --> 01:11:58,237 There were attacks on the proper American soldiers... 1377 01:11:58,314 --> 01:12:00,441 and they were answering to these attacks... 1378 01:12:00,516 --> 01:12:03,007 going out to look for the insurgents... 1379 01:12:03,085 --> 01:12:04,780 and on having tried to do that... 1380 01:12:04,853 --> 01:12:09,051 sometimes, they were arresting to the wrong persons. 1381 01:12:09,124 --> 01:12:12,252 Even, sometimes, they were killing to the wrong person. 1382 01:12:12,328 --> 01:12:14,922 After arresting someone, they were tending to disappear... 1383 01:12:14,997 --> 01:12:18,160 in the prison military system of EE.UU... 1384 01:12:18,233 --> 01:12:20,030 during a lot of time without track. 1385 01:12:20,102 --> 01:12:21,763 His families did not know anything. 1386 01:12:22,404 --> 01:12:24,998 The army of the USA does not reveal... 1387 01:12:25,074 --> 01:12:28,373 the number of brave Iraqis or arrested in Iraq from 2003. 1388 01:12:28,444 --> 01:12:31,743 It is difficult to understand what feels to the busy{occupied} being. 1389 01:12:31,814 --> 01:12:33,475 They aim at you from the vehicles. 1390 01:12:33,549 --> 01:12:35,016 They make you stop{detain} the car. 1391 01:12:35,084 --> 01:12:37,609 The Iraqis were not understanding the instructions... 1392 01:12:37,686 --> 01:12:39,517 that were giving to them in the positions of control. 1393 01:12:39,588 --> 01:12:41,886 If they were approaching very rapidly, they were killing them. 1394 01:12:41,957 --> 01:12:44,221 Almost all the units of the USA with that I was... 1395 01:12:44,293 --> 01:12:46,921 they were straining very much in doing the correct thing... 1396 01:12:46,995 --> 01:12:48,622 and not to kill or to hurt nobody... 1397 01:12:48,697 --> 01:12:51,825 that did not want or they will need to kill or to hurt. 1398 01:12:51,900 --> 01:12:54,994 But there is no doubt of that the wars are chaotic... 1399 01:12:55,070 --> 01:12:57,038 and, this one in Iraq... 1400 01:12:57,106 --> 01:12:59,267 at this level of rebellion... 1401 01:12:59,341 --> 01:13:00,501 it is even worse. 1402 01:13:00,576 --> 01:13:04,239 One after other one, they were taking decisions in the short term... 1403 01:13:04,313 --> 01:13:06,804 that, at the end of 2003... 1404 01:13:06,882 --> 01:13:09,817 they proved in a country with an increasing rebellion. 1405 01:13:11,086 --> 01:13:16,649 HEAD OFFICE OF THE UNO IN BAGHDAD ON AUGUST 19, 2003 1406 01:13:24,566 --> 01:13:26,932 On August 19, 2003, an enormous bomb destroyed 1407 01:13:27,002 --> 01:13:29,937 the head office of the UNO in Baghdad murdering 22 persons. 1408 01:13:30,005 --> 01:13:31,370 Between the dead persons, 1409 01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:35,206 the special envoy of the UNO in Iraq, Sergio Vieira de Mello. 1410 01:13:54,329 --> 01:13:55,694 A truck done in Russia... 1411 01:13:55,764 --> 01:13:59,564 he{she} parked opposite to the window of Sergio Vieira de Mello... 1412 01:13:59,635 --> 01:14:03,036 and the enormous one detonated quantity of explosives. 1413 01:14:03,105 --> 01:14:07,235 The whole corner south-west of the building{edifice} of the UNO it collapsed. 1414 01:14:07,309 --> 01:14:09,277 Sergio was still alive under the debris... 1415 01:14:09,344 --> 01:14:12,507 more than three hours hoping that they should rescue it. 1416 01:14:12,581 --> 01:14:15,448 We lost many companions this day... 1417 01:14:15,517 --> 01:14:18,850 and I believe that it was the sign of that slightly drastic... 1418 01:14:18,921 --> 01:14:22,288 it had happened in the country and of that the rebellion had turned... 1419 01:14:22,357 --> 01:14:23,984 in very lethal and organized... 1420 01:14:24,059 --> 01:14:27,290 ready for a long struggle... 1421 01:14:27,362 --> 01:14:29,455 against the forces of the coalition. 1422 01:14:33,001 --> 01:14:35,993 In 2004, the relation between the army... 1423 01:14:36,071 --> 01:14:38,972 and the Iraqi people{village} it had become untenable. 1424 01:14:41,176 --> 01:14:42,939 Here it are where to these mierditas... 1425 01:14:43,011 --> 01:14:45,275 they like throwing{shooting} stones to us. 1426 01:14:48,183 --> 01:14:49,741 Curse! 1427 01:14:52,488 --> 01:14:56,447 There you have it! But we cannot use mortal force. 1428 01:14:56,525 --> 01:14:58,015 We cannot use mortal force. 1429 01:14:58,093 --> 01:14:59,822 Lump it! 1430 01:14:59,895 --> 01:15:02,455 Lump it you, mierdita! 1431 01:15:02,531 --> 01:15:07,332 There are seen civil many{many people} that are going to work... 1432 01:15:07,402 --> 01:15:08,835 for the private contractors... 1433 01:15:08,904 --> 01:15:11,668 that take charge of big part of the reconstruction... 1434 01:15:11,740 --> 01:15:13,537 because we do not have sufficient troops. 1435 01:15:14,343 --> 01:15:18,507 There are more than 45.000 contractors deprived of the army in Iraq, 1436 01:15:18,580 --> 01:15:20,707 more than in no other war of the USA. 1437 01:15:20,782 --> 01:15:23,618 PARLIAMENTARIAN IRAQU� They have special custodies. 1438 01:15:23,685 --> 01:15:26,779 I do not know who are... 1439 01:15:26,855 --> 01:15:29,722 they have permission to shoot to the people, as well as this way. 1440 01:15:29,791 --> 01:15:32,589 I have seen multitude of civil contractors... 1441 01:15:32,661 --> 01:15:36,995 especially violent... 1442 01:15:37,065 --> 01:15:39,226 and with few vision on what they do. 1443 01:15:39,835 --> 01:15:43,737 What it continues{follows} is a home-loving video of a private military contractor in Iraq. 1444 01:15:43,805 --> 01:15:45,238 The music belongs to the original. 1445 01:16:14,836 --> 01:16:18,431 Saddam hurt us very much, it is true. 1446 01:16:18,507 --> 01:16:20,600 It is something that does not forget. 1447 01:16:20,676 --> 01:16:24,635 But what has come it is worse than Saddam. 1448 01:16:24,713 --> 01:16:27,546 When a problem like that is created, 1449 01:16:27,616 --> 01:16:29,140 it is necessary to arrange it or to go away. 1450 01:16:29,217 --> 01:16:31,014 They should not leave it this way. 1451 01:16:31,086 --> 01:16:32,815 Arrange it or out. 1452 01:16:32,888 --> 01:16:35,982 In any moment, when it has an opportunity... 1453 01:16:36,058 --> 01:16:37,787 I will face to the United States. 1454 01:16:37,859 --> 01:16:39,850 With weapon? 1455 01:16:39,928 --> 01:16:43,489 Of any form, with or without weapon. 1456 01:16:43,565 --> 01:16:45,294 Did it already face them? 1457 01:16:48,737 --> 01:16:51,365 Perhaps. 1458 01:16:51,673 --> 01:16:53,971 At the beginning of 2004, Faluya... 1459 01:16:54,042 --> 01:16:57,478 a city of 350.000 inhabitants to the west of Baghdad... 1460 01:16:57,546 --> 01:17:00,982 it had turned into the center of the rebellion sun�. 1461 01:17:05,087 --> 01:17:07,555 On March 31, 2004... 1462 01:17:07,623 --> 01:17:10,592 four military contractors of the USA they were murdered... 1463 01:17:10,659 --> 01:17:13,219 and his bodies were dragged by the streets... 1464 01:17:13,295 --> 01:17:14,887 for victorious multitudes. 1465 01:17:19,134 --> 01:17:21,125 At the beginning of 2004... 1466 01:17:21,203 --> 01:17:23,103 the Council of National Intelligence... 1467 01:17:23,171 --> 01:17:24,866 a powerful committee of 12 persons... 1468 01:17:24,940 --> 01:17:28,103 placed at the head of the community of intelligence of EE.UU... 1469 01:17:28,176 --> 01:17:31,111 it realized several evaluations of the increasing rebellion... 1470 01:17:31,179 --> 01:17:32,976 to that they presented themselves{appeared} to the White House... 1471 01:17:33,048 --> 01:17:35,380 and to tall officials of the government. 1472 01:17:35,450 --> 01:17:39,011 We register the growth of the rebellion. 1473 01:17:39,087 --> 01:17:42,147 It was growing and was not limiting itself to foreign combatants... 1474 01:17:42,224 --> 01:17:44,590 or to baazistas coldness. 1475 01:17:44,660 --> 01:17:46,924 What we call a rebellion... 1476 01:17:46,995 --> 01:17:49,327 it is a deep-rooted fact of multiple facets. 1477 01:17:49,398 --> 01:17:50,797 OFFICIAL OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE FOR THE MIDDLE EAST 1478 01:17:50,866 --> 01:17:52,629 Not only some rebels baazistas... 1479 01:17:52,701 --> 01:17:56,262 not only a few foreign extremists... 1480 01:17:56,338 --> 01:18:00,798 but rather it was reflecting multiple motivations... 1481 01:18:00,876 --> 01:18:02,036 and frustrations... 1482 01:18:02,110 --> 01:18:03,543 between the proper Iraqis. 1483 01:18:03,612 --> 01:18:07,343 After the economic{economical} situation deteriorates... 1484 01:18:07,416 --> 01:18:11,648 on having weakened the personal safety of the people{village}... 1485 01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:15,884 and after the resentment grows against the occupation of the USA. 1486 01:18:15,957 --> 01:18:19,393 The CIA... 1487 01:18:19,461 --> 01:18:21,861 it raised... 1488 01:18:21,930 --> 01:18:24,728 several cases... 1489 01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:28,236 in that the life it could be the awful, normal... 1490 01:18:28,303 --> 01:18:29,930 and better. 1491 01:18:30,005 --> 01:18:31,939 The president had not read it... 1492 01:18:32,007 --> 01:18:35,033 not even the summary of a page that so much cost us... 1493 01:18:35,110 --> 01:18:38,375 because we limited everything to only one page. 1494 01:18:38,447 --> 01:18:40,506 Did the president read not even the summary? 1495 01:18:40,582 --> 01:18:41,582 This way it is. 1496 01:18:41,583 --> 01:18:45,986 They only... 1497 01:18:46,054 --> 01:18:48,147 they were imagining the conditions. 1498 01:18:48,223 --> 01:18:50,783 How many people in Iraq estimate you... 1499 01:18:50,859 --> 01:18:52,019 ADVISER OF THE CPA FOR IRAQ 1500 01:18:52,094 --> 01:18:56,121 ... what have they taken part in the rebellion? 1501 01:18:56,198 --> 01:18:59,429 At any level, if it is alone supporting... 1502 01:18:59,501 --> 01:19:01,628 providing secret storages... 1503 01:19:01,703 --> 01:19:04,797 possibly more than 100.000 persons. 1504 01:19:04,873 --> 01:19:07,467 Mosul, Iraq. On December 9, 2004 1505 01:19:08,276 --> 01:19:12,508 Two cars entered in the district of Yarmouk. 1506 01:19:12,581 --> 01:19:14,515 There were Americans inside. 1507 01:19:14,583 --> 01:19:17,017 They all died, all. 1508 01:19:18,653 --> 01:19:21,281 In spite of the intensification of the rebellion... 1509 01:19:21,356 --> 01:19:23,847 there were still no sufficient ones armored cars... 1510 01:19:23,925 --> 01:19:25,688 for the soldiers of the USA in Iraq. 1511 01:19:25,761 --> 01:19:27,353 We had not even an armored car... 1512 01:19:27,429 --> 01:19:30,364 while we were in Iraq in 2003. 1513 01:19:30,432 --> 01:19:33,094 We went to Iraq in 2004... 1514 01:19:33,168 --> 01:19:34,931 with vehicles without shielding{armor}... 1515 01:19:35,003 --> 01:19:38,734 and they were giving us teams{equipments} of shielding{armor} in Kuwait... 1516 01:19:38,807 --> 01:19:41,799 that were like pieces in the shape of doors without windows... 1517 01:19:41,877 --> 01:19:45,506 and a moon to test of bullets, that was quite. 1518 01:19:45,580 --> 01:19:48,105 If his vehicle it had not been armored... 1519 01:19:48,183 --> 01:19:51,152 cu�I believes that it would have been the damage of the explosive? 1520 01:19:51,219 --> 01:19:52,811 I believe that it would have been mortal. 1521 01:19:52,888 --> 01:19:56,085 For what us do we have that to poke in dumps... 1522 01:19:56,158 --> 01:19:57,750 looking for metal pieces... 1523 01:19:57,826 --> 01:20:00,761 and armored glazing to reinforce our cars? 1524 01:20:00,829 --> 01:20:02,126 For what these resources{resorts}... 1525 01:20:02,197 --> 01:20:03,960 are not they available{spare} for us? 1526 01:20:09,905 --> 01:20:12,373 It is a question of physics{physicist}... 1527 01:20:12,440 --> 01:20:13,907 not of money. 1528 01:20:13,975 --> 01:20:17,467 It is not a question, on the part of the army, desire... 1529 01:20:17,546 --> 01:20:21,277 it is a question of production and aptitude to achieve it. 1530 01:20:21,349 --> 01:20:24,807 There are factories of cars that close in the USA. 1531 01:20:24,886 --> 01:20:29,084 I am not an expert in factories... 1532 01:20:29,157 --> 01:20:31,648 but reutilizarlas to produce armored cars... 1533 01:20:31,726 --> 01:20:32,954 it should not be difficult. 1534 01:20:33,028 --> 01:20:35,519 You go to the war with the army that you have... 1535 01:20:35,597 --> 01:20:39,431 and the one that you would like to have, or you would wish later. 1536 01:20:40,468 --> 01:20:44,427 THE THINGS CRUMBLE 1537 01:20:44,506 --> 01:20:49,068 In November, 2004, the Pentagon decided to attack Faluya... 1538 01:20:49,144 --> 01:20:52,841 to recover the city of the rebellion sun�. 1539 01:20:52,914 --> 01:20:56,714 350.000 citizens were warned of Faluya that were leaving the city. 1540 01:21:05,193 --> 01:21:07,923 The battle destroyed 70 % of the city... 1541 01:21:07,996 --> 01:21:11,193 leaving 150.000 homeless. 1542 01:21:11,266 --> 01:21:14,599 In spite of the intense combats, many insurgents escape. 1543 01:21:14,669 --> 01:21:16,637 40 marines turn out to be dead. 1544 01:21:18,673 --> 01:21:21,699 While the army of the USA. it was worrying about Faluya... 1545 01:21:21,776 --> 01:21:24,677 the militias chi�tas they were taking possession of the south of Iraq. 1546 01:21:33,388 --> 01:21:38,883 There is neither an army nor a multitude... 1547 01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,019 of hundreds of persons... 1548 01:21:41,096 --> 01:21:44,532 trying to demolish or to change the situation. 1549 01:21:44,599 --> 01:21:46,567 In August, 2004... 1550 01:21:46,635 --> 01:21:49,866 the holy city of Nayaf it is controlled by the Army of Mahdi... 1551 01:21:49,938 --> 01:21:54,136 the militia chi�ta led for Muqtada to the-Sadr. 1552 01:21:54,676 --> 01:21:58,339 Seth's section faced to the militia of Muqtada to the-Sadr. 1553 01:21:58,413 --> 01:22:00,973 In extract, which informed us the unit{unity}... 1554 01:22:01,049 --> 01:22:02,744 that we substitute it was... 1555 01:22:02,817 --> 01:22:07,720 that almost quite in Nayaf was very pacific. 1556 01:22:07,789 --> 01:22:09,984 Except 3.000 men of the militia... 1557 01:22:10,058 --> 01:22:11,650 that occupy the center of the city. 1558 01:22:14,195 --> 01:22:16,629 The bullets were flying, the mortars were falling down. 1559 01:22:16,698 --> 01:22:19,997 My section was the first one in coming to the police station of police officer{police}. 1560 01:22:20,068 --> 01:22:23,834 We take positions with the police of Iraq... 1561 01:22:23,905 --> 01:22:25,873 and we defended her from the militia. 1562 01:22:25,941 --> 01:22:27,602 But until ends of August... 1563 01:22:27,676 --> 01:22:30,270 we did not do a large-scale assault... 1564 01:22:30,345 --> 01:22:32,905 to the ancient{former} city of Nayaf and we recover her. 1565 01:22:32,981 --> 01:22:37,748 To Muqtada to the-Sadr he{she} was allowed to escape unharmed. 1566 01:22:37,819 --> 01:22:40,481 If the democracy it does not help the Iraqi people... 1567 01:22:40,555 --> 01:22:42,750 the people will say: " To the devil with the democracy. 1568 01:22:42,824 --> 01:22:44,348 " We need a strong man ". 1569 01:22:44,426 --> 01:22:46,360 And I see that this man is on having fallen down... 1570 01:22:46,428 --> 01:22:48,259 and the name of to the-Sadr is Muqtada. 1571 01:22:48,330 --> 01:22:52,858 I believe that it is not the best election as future leader of Iraq. 1572 01:22:52,934 --> 01:22:55,732 It took part in the deliberations... 1573 01:22:55,804 --> 01:22:59,900 on if capturing or to kill Muqtada to the-Sadr? 1574 01:22:59,975 --> 01:23:01,772 Yes, this way it is. 1575 01:23:01,843 --> 01:23:04,209 We were considering it a troublemaker... 1576 01:23:04,279 --> 01:23:05,507 and a source of problems? 1577 01:23:05,580 --> 01:23:07,707 Certainly, we wanted to arrest it. 1578 01:23:07,782 --> 01:23:11,013 Everything turns concerning the matter of the force of the troops. 1579 01:23:11,086 --> 01:23:12,383 The army did not have to relax... 1580 01:23:12,454 --> 01:23:14,046 of his principal mission... 1581 01:23:14,122 --> 01:23:16,784 to begin what would have been a battle cuts... 1582 01:23:16,858 --> 01:23:20,851 although difficult, and surely bloody... 1583 01:23:20,929 --> 01:23:24,626 and this is what was decided in the end. 1584 01:23:24,699 --> 01:23:29,500 After the elections in Iraq, on December 15, 2005... 1585 01:23:29,571 --> 01:23:31,232 the Iraqi Close{United} Alliance... 1586 01:23:31,306 --> 01:23:34,673 with the party of Muqtada to the-Sadr as principal participant... 1587 01:23:34,743 --> 01:23:38,201 it occupied almost the half of the benches in the central government of Iraq. 1588 01:23:38,279 --> 01:23:40,747 It is not easy for a marine that someone... 1589 01:23:40,815 --> 01:23:45,275 He{It} and his militia murdered to some of my friends... 1590 01:23:45,353 --> 01:23:49,153 and to see it rising in the politics of Iraq... 1591 01:23:49,224 --> 01:23:50,282 it is frustrating. 1592 01:23:51,092 --> 01:23:54,084 Another group chi�ta of the alliance of Sadr it is SCIRI... 1593 01:23:54,162 --> 01:23:57,654 the Supreme Advice{Council} for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq. 1594 01:23:57,732 --> 01:24:00,326 The leaders of the SCIRI they lived through 20 years in Iran... 1595 01:24:00,402 --> 01:24:02,495 and they are, often, pro Iranian. 1596 01:24:02,570 --> 01:24:04,003 These groups chi�tas... 1597 01:24:04,072 --> 01:24:06,939 that sometimes fight against them themselves... 1598 01:24:07,008 --> 01:24:09,704 they are allied politically against the groups sun�es. 1599 01:24:09,778 --> 01:24:11,769 The Army of Mahdi de Muqtada to the-Sadr... 1600 01:24:11,846 --> 01:24:15,111 it continues the clashes with the forces of the USA. 1601 01:24:15,183 --> 01:24:17,014 The level of activity that is seen today... 1602 01:24:17,085 --> 01:24:20,077 from a point of military sight it will diminish. 1603 01:24:20,155 --> 01:24:23,682 I believe that it is the last breath of the rebellion, if they allow it to me. 1604 01:24:23,758 --> 01:24:28,388 When secretary Rumsfeld and the vice-president Cheney... 1605 01:24:28,463 --> 01:24:31,557 they commented that the rebellion it was drooping... 1606 01:24:31,633 --> 01:24:33,965 that were alone a few rebels... 1607 01:24:34,035 --> 01:24:37,903 you knew that the estimation of the intelligence... 1608 01:24:37,972 --> 01:24:41,100 was it already indicating that they were wrong? 1609 01:24:41,176 --> 01:24:43,110 It had gone to Iraq eight times... 1610 01:24:43,178 --> 01:24:45,976 he{she} knew the facts on the area. 1611 01:24:46,047 --> 01:24:47,878 They will have to speak and judged... 1612 01:24:47,949 --> 01:24:49,473 for his words and actions... 1613 01:24:49,551 --> 01:24:51,485 but I knew what the facts were. 1614 01:24:51,553 --> 01:24:56,820 Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld they refused to be interviewed. 1615 01:24:57,192 --> 01:25:00,491 At the beginning of 2005, the administration began little by little... 1616 01:25:00,562 --> 01:25:02,860 to correct some of his errors. 1617 01:25:02,931 --> 01:25:05,456 It accelerated the training of the Iraqi army... 1618 01:25:05,533 --> 01:25:07,330 and it named a Moslem diplomat... 1619 01:25:07,402 --> 01:25:10,064 Zalmay Khalilzad, like ambassador. 1620 01:25:10,138 --> 01:25:11,969 In June, 2006... 1621 01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,634 ambassador Khalilzad sent a cable with bad predictions... 1622 01:25:14,709 --> 01:25:16,643 to Condoleezza Rice. 1623 01:25:16,711 --> 01:25:18,110 The Iraqis of the embassy... 1624 01:25:18,179 --> 01:25:20,340 they were not saying to his families where were they working... 1625 01:25:20,415 --> 01:25:22,383 for fear of being murdered. 1626 01:25:22,450 --> 01:25:25,510 They were wondering what would happen{pass} if the Americans were going away. 1627 01:25:25,587 --> 01:25:29,148 Many{Many people} were preparing themselves for your own sequestrations. 1628 01:25:29,224 --> 01:25:30,350 Six months later... 1629 01:25:30,425 --> 01:25:33,588 the day after the republicans they were losing the control of the Congress... 1630 01:25:33,661 --> 01:25:37,222 the president Bush announces the resignation of Rumsfeld. 1631 01:25:37,298 --> 01:25:39,732 The new secretary of Defense, Robert Gates... 1632 01:25:39,801 --> 01:25:43,032 he is a pragmatist that he{she} has criticized the war privately. 1633 01:25:43,104 --> 01:25:45,937 I do changes in the secretariat of Defense... 1634 01:25:46,007 --> 01:25:48,635 to give a new perspective on how obtaining anything... 1635 01:25:48,710 --> 01:25:50,735 that almost we all wish, victory. 1636 01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:55,813 THE CHAOS 1637 01:26:06,728 --> 01:26:08,787 When Rumsfeld is replaced... 1638 01:26:08,863 --> 01:26:10,797 Iraq is out of control. 1639 01:26:10,865 --> 01:26:13,561 The country is every time more dominated by militias... 1640 01:26:13,635 --> 01:26:16,627 insurgents, criminals and commanders. 1641 01:26:16,704 --> 01:26:19,673 The mixed areas are purged in ethnic purges. 1642 01:26:19,741 --> 01:26:22,141 The militias chi�tas they have infiltrated into the police... 1643 01:26:22,210 --> 01:26:24,405 using them for sectarian slaughters. 1644 01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,106 The sequestrations and the violent deaths... 1645 01:26:26,181 --> 01:26:29,173 they come to several hundreds per day. 1646 01:26:29,951 --> 01:26:31,976 They kidnapped them on the market... 1647 01:26:32,053 --> 01:26:33,315 and they executed them. 1648 01:26:33,388 --> 01:26:35,151 They executed them for being sun�es. 1649 01:26:35,223 --> 01:26:37,054 There are many types of militia. 1650 01:26:37,125 --> 01:26:38,285 The militia of Mahdi... 1651 01:26:38,359 --> 01:26:40,387 MINISTER OF HUMAN RIGHTS IN IRAQ ... the militia of Badr... 1652 01:26:40,461 --> 01:26:43,191 there are many militias in this country. 1653 01:26:43,264 --> 01:26:45,755 They all are very democratic... 1654 01:26:45,833 --> 01:26:50,532 to arrest and to kill the people. 1655 01:26:50,605 --> 01:26:53,768 The safety is the awful in many quarters... 1656 01:26:53,841 --> 01:26:56,969 with the permanent threat of cars bomb and home-loving explosives. 1657 01:26:57,045 --> 01:26:59,570 A car bomb exploited just there. 1658 01:26:59,647 --> 01:27:02,275 I was here, my father here and my brother there. 1659 01:27:02,350 --> 01:27:04,443 The explosion killed my brother. 1660 01:27:04,519 --> 01:27:06,510 And to all around him{you}. 1661 01:27:06,588 --> 01:27:10,649 Cars bomb, home-loving explosives, sequestrations... 1662 01:27:10,725 --> 01:27:12,852 There are a lot of ways of dying. 1663 01:27:12,927 --> 01:27:16,829 The sequestrations, measured certifications{certificates} of gangsters to obtain money. 1664 01:27:16,898 --> 01:27:20,390 They kidnapped a child opposite to the hotel... 1665 01:27:20,468 --> 01:27:22,959 a car stopped, seized the child and went away. 1666 01:27:23,037 --> 01:27:24,595 They ask the parents for a rescue... 1667 01:27:24,672 --> 01:27:26,333 that they will have to obtain in one week. 1668 01:27:26,407 --> 01:27:29,638 A few sequestrations are not alone, they are hundred of them... 1669 01:27:29,711 --> 01:27:31,802 ADVISER OF SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR DE IRAQ ... and it is overwhelming. 1670 01:27:31,879 --> 01:27:33,870 Where did they kidnap them? 1671 01:27:33,948 --> 01:27:37,850 They took them of his shops, to the four. 1672 01:27:37,919 --> 01:27:41,218 We went to the office of Sadr to ask him and to request him... 1673 01:27:41,289 --> 01:27:43,052 but they said that they were not they. 1674 01:27:43,124 --> 01:27:45,149 There is a persons' avalanche... 1675 01:27:45,226 --> 01:27:47,990 asking for help or... 1676 01:27:48,062 --> 01:27:50,553 or that soon stop asking for help. 1677 01:27:50,632 --> 01:27:53,260 Why to denounce the police? One, we do not trust in them. 1678 01:27:53,334 --> 01:27:55,325 Two, perhaps they commit the crimes. 1679 01:27:55,403 --> 01:27:58,736 His uniforms were proliferating for all places. 1680 01:27:58,806 --> 01:28:01,070 There are many elements of looting... 1681 01:28:01,142 --> 01:28:04,839 and the people who makes to happen{pass} for safety services. 1682 01:28:04,912 --> 01:28:08,814 They arrest the people due to many sources. 1683 01:28:08,883 --> 01:28:10,350 Do not know who are. 1684 01:28:10,418 --> 01:28:13,785 False positions of control where they stop{detain} the people... 1685 01:28:13,855 --> 01:28:17,791 to verify his identity and to see if they are chi�tas... 1686 01:28:17,859 --> 01:28:21,317 sun�es, Kurds, Arabs{Arabic}, and then... 1687 01:28:21,396 --> 01:28:24,365 they kidnap them or kill them there same. 1688 01:28:27,035 --> 01:28:28,764 When I say goodbye of my husband... 1689 01:28:28,836 --> 01:28:30,770 I always believe that I will not return. 1690 01:28:34,175 --> 01:28:38,271 At the end of 2006, Baghdad was a lawlessness. 1691 01:28:38,346 --> 01:28:41,076 The army of the USA. it was controlling the Green space... 1692 01:28:41,149 --> 01:28:43,674 and the area of the airport of Baghdad. 1693 01:28:43,751 --> 01:28:47,551 The safety forces of Iraq they were controlling the East and the south. 1694 01:28:47,622 --> 01:28:49,112 The militias sun�es were controlling... 1695 01:28:49,190 --> 01:28:51,784 several quarters sun�es important. 1696 01:28:51,859 --> 01:28:55,590 The Army of Mahdi de Muqtada to the-Sadr it was dominating extensive areas... 1697 01:28:55,663 --> 01:28:58,928 including the enormous district chi�ta of the city of Sadr. 1698 01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,299 The militia chi�ta rival of the SCIRI, the Brigade Badr... 1699 01:29:02,370 --> 01:29:04,600 it was controlling the areas chi�tas rich. 1700 01:29:04,672 --> 01:29:07,903 The organizations of quarter they were controlling many small areas. 1701 01:29:07,975 --> 01:29:12,241 Extensive areas were remaining without controlling. 1702 01:29:14,615 --> 01:29:18,142 CONSEQUENCES 1703 01:29:18,219 --> 01:29:19,584 Of a realized study... 1704 01:29:19,654 --> 01:29:21,383 for the catedr�tica of Harvard Linda Bilmas... 1705 01:29:21,456 --> 01:29:23,856 and the winner of a nobel Joseph Stiglitz... 1706 01:29:23,925 --> 01:29:29,090 at the beginning of 2007, the USA there was spent 379.000 million dollars... 1707 01:29:29,163 --> 01:29:31,393 directly in the war of Iraq. 1708 01:29:31,466 --> 01:29:36,028 The future operations are estimated in approximately 389.000 million dollars. 1709 01:29:36,104 --> 01:29:38,004 The cost of the care to the veterans... 1710 01:29:38,072 --> 01:29:40,632 and the loss of productiveness as that they serve in Iraq... 1711 01:29:40,708 --> 01:29:43,074 it costs 482.000 million dollars. 1712 01:29:43,144 --> 01:29:46,511 The cost of the demobilization and substitution of the team{equipment} of the army... 1713 01:29:46,581 --> 01:29:49,482 that is finished six times more rapidly of the normal thing... 1714 01:29:49,550 --> 01:29:51,882 it is 160.000 million dollars. 1715 01:29:51,953 --> 01:29:54,478 The increase of the price of the oil due to the war... 1716 01:29:54,555 --> 01:29:59,549 it has cost to the USA. 450.000 million dollars. 1717 01:29:59,627 --> 01:30:02,095 In whole, the economic{economical} cost of the war... 1718 01:30:02,163 --> 01:30:05,291 it is believed that it will reach 1,8 trillions of dollars. 1719 01:30:06,434 --> 01:30:09,164 I suffer... 1720 01:30:09,237 --> 01:30:12,400 migraines postraum�ticas... 1721 01:30:12,473 --> 01:30:14,703 and epilepsy postraum�tica. 1722 01:30:17,378 --> 01:30:24,546 Sometimes, I have bad memories of what it happened... 1723 01:30:24,619 --> 01:30:26,610 but I do not scare them. 1724 01:30:26,687 --> 01:30:28,882 Is he{she} emotionally well? 1725 01:30:28,956 --> 01:30:32,323 Sometimes, it is a little... 1726 01:30:35,229 --> 01:30:36,753 Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, not. 1727 01:30:38,232 --> 01:30:41,065 Still{Yet} difficult meeting to treat with... 1728 01:30:41,135 --> 01:30:43,069 you know already... 1729 01:30:43,137 --> 01:30:45,571 what us happened to me and to my partner. Sometimes. 1730 01:30:47,575 --> 01:30:51,306 The big cost concerned to the disability of the veterans... 1731 01:30:51,379 --> 01:30:53,779 it is for these hundreds of thousands of persons... 1732 01:30:53,848 --> 01:30:57,113 that they return and see that cannot work... 1733 01:30:57,185 --> 01:30:59,380 or to expire with a work like{as} earlier... 1734 01:30:59,454 --> 01:31:03,481 because there are no same that earlier. 1735 01:31:03,558 --> 01:31:05,389 What temperatures are reached here? 1736 01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:06,722 Yesterday we come to 48 grades. 1737 01:31:06,794 --> 01:31:10,025 - 48 grades? - Yes. 1738 01:31:10,097 --> 01:31:12,588 The last contract that signed with the government. 1739 01:31:12,667 --> 01:31:13,998 Many of the units go... 1740 01:31:14,068 --> 01:31:15,695 three periods of service... 1741 01:31:15,770 --> 01:31:17,670 and some of them do not see that the end approaches. 1742 01:31:17,738 --> 01:31:19,433 They believe that they will return for his fifth one... 1743 01:31:19,507 --> 01:31:21,941 the sixth, seventh period of service before it finishes. 1744 01:31:22,009 --> 01:31:23,772 We do not have enough troops. 1745 01:31:23,845 --> 01:31:26,712 How us protegeremos before a possible conflict in Pyongyang... 1746 01:31:26,781 --> 01:31:27,907 NORTH KOREA ANNOUNCES NUCLEAR TESTS 1747 01:31:27,982 --> 01:31:30,007 ... a possible conflict with Iran... 1748 01:31:30,084 --> 01:31:32,484 other possible conflicts in the world... 1749 01:31:32,553 --> 01:31:34,612 if we have it quite overturned... 1750 01:31:34,689 --> 01:31:36,748 towards Iraq and Afghanistan? 1751 01:31:36,824 --> 01:31:38,792 It is curious, but Iran... 1752 01:31:38,860 --> 01:31:40,122 ASSISTANT OF THE SECRETARY OF CLINTON'S DEFENSE 1753 01:31:40,194 --> 01:31:45,393 ... in spite of our hate towards the Iranian diet{regime}... 1754 01:31:45,466 --> 01:31:49,596 he is the biggest beneficiary of the war of Iraq. 1755 01:31:49,670 --> 01:31:52,571 We eliminate his enemy historical for them... 1756 01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:56,474 and we put them to the head of the War of the Gulf. 1757 01:31:56,544 --> 01:31:59,411 When you attend a civil war like that... 1758 01:31:59,480 --> 01:32:00,777 violent and disagreeable... 1759 01:32:00,848 --> 01:32:02,713 on 20 % of the world supply of oil... 1760 01:32:02,783 --> 01:32:04,876 that it will affect with safety to nearby countries... 1761 01:32:04,952 --> 01:32:09,286 Iran, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, perhaps up to Egypt. 1762 01:32:09,357 --> 01:32:14,317 If Iraq disintegrates and turns in a field of civil war... 1763 01:32:14,395 --> 01:32:16,989 it will look alike increasingly to a small Afghanistan. 1764 01:32:17,064 --> 01:32:21,160 It are where they will shelter the terrorists of the whole world{everybody}. 1765 01:32:21,235 --> 01:32:25,934 If Iraq returns to a diet{regime} islamofascista... 1766 01:32:26,007 --> 01:32:28,976 as{like} that of the talibanes in Afghanistan... 1767 01:32:29,043 --> 01:32:31,568 we will have returned on September 10, 2001... 1768 01:32:31,646 --> 01:32:34,672 only that to major scale... 1769 01:32:34,749 --> 01:32:38,583 and with thousands of million dollars of oil at his disposal. 1770 01:32:38,752 --> 01:32:41,744 On having begun the reconstruction... 1771 01:32:41,855 --> 01:32:43,550 we were joking... 1772 01:32:43,623 --> 01:32:45,614 with that there were 500 ways of harming it... 1773 01:32:45,692 --> 01:32:48,024 and two or three of it to do well... 1774 01:32:48,095 --> 01:32:49,619 and what we did not understand... 1775 01:32:49,696 --> 01:32:52,028 the fact is that we were going to try these 500 forms first. 1776 01:32:52,099 --> 01:32:53,896 Why were these errors committed? 1777 01:32:53,967 --> 01:32:55,730 I do not know it. 1778 01:32:55,802 --> 01:32:59,033 I do not have it nor designs. It is disconcerting. 1779 01:33:01,608 --> 01:33:04,771 The president Bush it disappeared in combat... 1780 01:33:04,845 --> 01:33:06,676 in the planning of the postwar period. 1781 01:33:06,747 --> 01:33:10,740 It delegated in his vice-president and in his secretary of Defense... 1782 01:33:10,817 --> 01:33:13,513 the control of these decisions. 1783 01:33:13,587 --> 01:33:16,112 Why, if he was the president of EE.UU... 1784 01:33:16,189 --> 01:33:18,919 it would use the military force then to feign ignorance... 1785 01:33:18,992 --> 01:33:23,326 of, essentially, the most important aspect... 1786 01:33:23,396 --> 01:33:25,364 that is to say, the later{posterior} period? 1787 01:33:25,432 --> 01:33:26,797 Who was in charge in this war? 1788 01:33:26,867 --> 01:33:28,334 I do not want to repeat the whole list. 1789 01:33:28,401 --> 01:33:29,800 The president, the vice-president... 1790 01:33:29,870 --> 01:33:31,201 the secretary of Defense... 1791 01:33:31,271 --> 01:33:33,637 those who were surrounding them. 1792 01:33:33,707 --> 01:33:35,197 The Assessor of National Safety? 1793 01:33:35,275 --> 01:33:36,275 Skylight. 1794 01:33:36,309 --> 01:33:38,140 The vice-president? 1795 01:33:38,211 --> 01:33:39,371 Yes. 1796 01:33:39,446 --> 01:33:40,913 This was the internal team{equipment}... 1797 01:33:40,981 --> 01:33:44,075 that was planning everything that thing about the war. 1798 01:33:44,151 --> 01:33:46,585 My error was not to try to take part any more... 1799 01:33:46,653 --> 01:33:48,678 in the process of planning. 1800 01:33:48,755 --> 01:33:50,154 I see already. 1801 01:33:50,223 --> 01:33:51,952 So that the dissolution of the army... 1802 01:33:52,025 --> 01:33:53,583 had not it been a surprise? 1803 01:33:53,660 --> 01:33:55,321 It might have fought a heap... 1804 01:33:55,395 --> 01:33:59,331 and even to go to judgment{opinion}. It would have lost, but it would have gone. 1805 01:33:59,399 --> 01:34:02,027 The system should be participativo... 1806 01:34:02,102 --> 01:34:04,593 and to include the people that is ready to say... 1807 01:34:04,671 --> 01:34:07,196 " This has no sense, mister president. 1808 01:34:07,274 --> 01:34:08,969 " It is a bad idea ". 1809 01:34:09,042 --> 01:34:11,567 I do not believe that these processes of capture of decisions... 1810 01:34:11,645 --> 01:34:13,909 they existed in the administration of Bush. 1811 01:34:13,980 --> 01:34:16,505 I was not sorry that I was taking part... 1812 01:34:16,583 --> 01:34:19,211 in no process of capture of decisions. 1813 01:34:19,286 --> 01:34:21,982 The administration never asked... 1814 01:34:22,055 --> 01:34:25,320 no opinion poll of the population on Iraq before the war. 1815 01:34:25,392 --> 01:34:29,488 Nobody was interested in what the community will think? 1816 01:34:29,563 --> 01:34:31,827 I believe that it was already quite determined... 1817 01:34:31,898 --> 01:34:34,196 from the beginning. 1818 01:34:34,267 --> 01:34:38,226 Any analysis that was doing... 1819 01:34:38,305 --> 01:34:40,239 on these matters... 1820 01:34:40,307 --> 01:34:43,242 it was ignored by the managers of the capture of decisions. 1821 01:34:43,310 --> 01:34:45,141 The vice-president Cheney has done... 1822 01:34:45,212 --> 01:34:46,509 and it takes the same positions{attitudes}... 1823 01:34:46,580 --> 01:34:48,946 on the war that secretary Rumsfeld. 1824 01:34:49,015 --> 01:34:50,505 Still{Yet} does it have his entire confidence? 1825 01:34:50,584 --> 01:34:51,983 - This way it is. - Waiting that he{it} ...? 1826 01:34:52,052 --> 01:34:53,952 The campaign was finished. This way it is. 1827 01:34:54,020 --> 01:34:56,445 - Will it continue here until you should go away? - This way it is. 1828 01:34:56,523 --> 01:35:01,085 Some nights I do not sleep very well... 1829 01:35:01,161 --> 01:35:04,255 when I blame myself for not pressing any more... 1830 01:35:04,331 --> 01:35:07,095 that should have gone, to stamp on the door and to say... 1831 01:35:07,167 --> 01:35:08,293 " Curse, listening. 1832 01:35:08,368 --> 01:35:12,828 " It was an error. It is necessary to rectify it ". 1833 01:35:12,906 --> 01:35:16,398 But I never had the opportunity... 1834 01:35:16,476 --> 01:35:18,671 and to stamp on a door... 1835 01:35:18,745 --> 01:35:22,112 with an ambassador that, essentially, it is... 1836 01:35:22,182 --> 01:35:24,844 the czar of Iraq. 1837 01:35:24,918 --> 01:35:28,081 It is impossible that a colonel does that. 1838 01:35:28,154 --> 01:35:30,145 It was not possible to happen{pass} beyond the entry. 1839 01:35:30,223 --> 01:35:34,353 If the one that I spoke joins, although it is in the most minimal thing... 1840 01:35:34,427 --> 01:35:39,592 to the criticism of this administration... 1841 01:35:39,666 --> 01:35:41,429 I will feel good. 1842 01:35:41,501 --> 01:35:44,493 I do not want to say that it should have been a cash... 1843 01:35:44,571 --> 01:35:48,098 but the fact is that I cannot keep on living like that. 1844 01:35:48,174 --> 01:35:51,666 We will take to the Iraqis meal... 1845 01:35:51,745 --> 01:35:53,508 and medicines... 1846 01:35:53,580 --> 01:35:55,707 and provisions... 1847 01:35:55,782 --> 01:35:57,750 and liberate. 1848 01:36:16,636 --> 01:36:18,934 Look at what contentments! 1849 01:36:30,250 --> 01:36:33,242 It sounds as if it us was going away to fall down the world above. 1850 01:36:37,624 --> 01:36:41,651 General Garner and I we are promised to be employed at team{equipment}. 1851 01:36:41,728 --> 01:36:44,424 WE WANT OUR EMPLOYMENTS{JOBS} AND WAGES 1852 01:36:45,799 --> 01:36:49,030 Now there is many ancient{former} Iraqi soldiers... 1853 01:36:49,102 --> 01:36:50,228 without employment{job}. 1854 01:36:55,075 --> 01:36:56,804 One was a " guerrilla war "... 1855 01:36:56,876 --> 01:37:00,835 the different one was a " rebellion ", the different one was a slightly conventional " war ". 1856 01:37:04,584 --> 01:37:06,381 - Pardon? - Impasse. 1857 01:37:08,188 --> 01:37:11,954 Not, of that another person takes charge... 1858 01:37:12,025 --> 01:37:13,219 I do not do these things. 1859 01:37:17,697 --> 01:37:19,460 I penetrate, penetrate. 1860 01:37:19,532 --> 01:37:22,933 I hear the political leaders. 1861 01:37:33,213 --> 01:37:34,703 Ah! 1862 01:37:34,781 --> 01:37:36,544 Below, below, below. 1863 01:37:36,616 --> 01:37:41,246 Some day in the future, I will turn the sight to Iraq... 1864 01:37:41,321 --> 01:37:44,017 and I will want to see that we have obtained something... 1865 01:37:44,090 --> 01:37:46,558 to be able to say... 1866 01:37:46,626 --> 01:37:48,389 that I was a part of that... 1867 01:37:48,461 --> 01:37:54,263 and that my suffering and losses have sense. 1868 01:38:03,977 --> 01:38:09,074 If the situation improves, I will go away of Iraq. 1869 01:38:09,149 --> 01:38:11,174 I will go away, but now... 1870 01:38:11,251 --> 01:38:14,084 I am a combatant, all my life. 1871 01:38:14,154 --> 01:38:15,451 I still{yet} will not go away of Iraq. 1872 01:38:19,526 --> 01:38:21,391 It is not possible to change anything from here... 1873 01:38:21,461 --> 01:38:23,691 because it is out of control. 1874 01:38:23,763 --> 01:38:28,996 I do not have plans of future in Iraq. 1875 01:38:29,069 --> 01:38:34,905 I still{yet} do not see the light at the end of the tunnel. 1876 01:38:34,974 --> 01:38:36,464 This is what exists. 1877 01:38:36,543 --> 01:38:38,511 This way we live through it, this way we see it... 1878 01:38:38,578 --> 01:38:40,773 this way we it smell and feel it. 1879 01:38:40,847 --> 01:38:43,816 In this situation it is not possible to say: " Let's try this... 1880 01:38:43,883 --> 01:38:46,443 " it will serve. Or this yes that will serve ". It is not like that. 1881 01:38:53,593 --> 01:38:57,256 You are saying to me that this is it the best thing that can do the USA? 1882 01:38:57,330 --> 01:38:58,797 Not. 1883 01:38:58,865 --> 01:39:01,425 Do not say that to me, him{her; you} do not say to the marines... 1884 01:39:01,501 --> 01:39:04,163 that fought one month in Nayaf that... 1885 01:39:04,237 --> 01:39:06,000 Do not say to me that the marines that... 1886 01:39:06,072 --> 01:39:07,562 that still fight every day in Faluya... 1887 01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:09,608 that this is the best thing that the USA can do. 1888 01:39:12,011 --> 01:39:13,308 It angers me. 1889 01:39:14,308 --> 01:39:24,308 Downloaded From www.AllSubs.org 158624