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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,420 [♪ upbeat music playing] 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:05,881 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪ 3 00:00:05,964 --> 00:00:08,509 ♪ These are the days I dream about ♪ 4 00:00:08,592 --> 00:00:10,886 ♪ I think I finally figured out ♪ 5 00:00:10,969 --> 00:00:13,639 ♪ My life, my purpose in the fold ♪ 6 00:00:13,722 --> 00:00:16,015 ♪ I'm ever changing now ♪ 7 00:00:16,099 --> 00:00:18,727 ♪ These are the days I dream about ♪ 8 00:00:18,810 --> 00:00:20,729 ♪ I'm ever changing now ♪ 9 00:00:20,812 --> 00:00:22,648 [Ever giggling] 10 00:00:22,731 --> 00:00:24,233 [Liann] I'm gonna get a bite. 11 00:00:24,316 --> 00:00:26,360 [Ever giggles, gurgles] 12 00:00:26,443 --> 00:00:28,070 Mm, so good. 13 00:00:29,321 --> 00:00:30,656 Hi, Ruger. 14 00:00:31,156 --> 00:00:33,367 -[gasps] Hi! -[Aspen] Hello. 15 00:00:33,450 --> 00:00:35,035 [dog barking] 16 00:00:35,118 --> 00:00:39,206 [gasps] Hi, my little Cocomelon. 17 00:00:39,289 --> 00:00:40,707 ♪♪ 18 00:00:40,791 --> 00:00:42,459 -Hi. -Hi, Dad. 19 00:00:42,543 --> 00:00:43,877 Um... 20 00:00:45,879 --> 00:00:49,383 Have you guys apologized to each other? Is everything good? 21 00:00:51,134 --> 00:00:55,180 Taylor asked me to go to therapy with her, 22 00:00:55,264 --> 00:00:58,600 and it just seems like every time we're together, 23 00:00:58,684 --> 00:01:01,478 we're fighting about the same things over and over. 24 00:01:01,562 --> 00:01:06,024 How does a parent parent their adult kid, 25 00:01:06,108 --> 00:01:08,652 but then be like, "Poor me, I need to go to the hospital"? 26 00:01:08,735 --> 00:01:10,737 Do I say that to you? Or are you making it up? 27 00:01:10,821 --> 00:01:12,864 Can you, can you let me explain it to her first 28 00:01:12,948 --> 00:01:14,658 and then you can talk to me? 29 00:01:15,409 --> 00:01:20,080 Yeah, I do need to work on my approach and not be so judgmental 30 00:01:20,163 --> 00:01:22,374 and so, I am, I am really sorry. 31 00:01:22,457 --> 00:01:24,167 I appreciate that. And I'm sorry, too, 32 00:01:24,251 --> 00:01:25,961 'cause I think I just get defensive, just like you. 33 00:01:26,044 --> 00:01:29,089 I think I-- Apple doesn't far-- fall far from the tree, you know? 34 00:01:29,172 --> 00:01:30,674 -So... -Yeah. 35 00:01:30,757 --> 00:01:33,218 My mom and I decided to finally do therapy together. 36 00:01:33,302 --> 00:01:38,765 And it really opened my eyes to realizing how much I still have yet to learn 37 00:01:38,849 --> 00:01:42,102 about my family and her past. 38 00:01:42,185 --> 00:01:45,897 And then, the genealogist found out that I have two more siblings. 39 00:01:45,981 --> 00:01:49,610 It was like, shocked, honestly. Like, "Whoa!" 40 00:01:49,693 --> 00:01:50,694 Did they even know? 41 00:01:50,777 --> 00:01:53,697 I don't believe so. I've not been able to reach them yet. 42 00:01:53,780 --> 00:01:55,866 [exhales] That is wild! 43 00:01:55,949 --> 00:01:59,494 I'm nervous for my mom, but I'm like, this is news to her too. 44 00:01:59,578 --> 00:02:03,540 This was her past with my biological dad and, you know, once her relationship, 45 00:02:03,624 --> 00:02:05,292 but maybe it won't be that big of a deal. 46 00:02:05,375 --> 00:02:08,795 Um, so, I, uh, have news. 47 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:10,130 [Jeremy] Oh, great. 48 00:02:10,213 --> 00:02:13,925 I hate when you say that 'cause you get this smirk on your face. 49 00:02:14,009 --> 00:02:15,802 You do that, "Mm. Mm." 50 00:02:15,886 --> 00:02:16,970 [Liann laughs] 51 00:02:17,554 --> 00:02:19,389 [Taylor] Well, this is, like, pretty, like, crazy news 52 00:02:19,473 --> 00:02:21,350 -and it's not bad. -[Liann] Okay, well, let's hear it. 53 00:02:21,433 --> 00:02:25,687 -Like, I-- My heart's already-- -Yeah, my heart kinda just went... 54 00:02:26,188 --> 00:02:28,398 I always think she's gonna say she's pregnant 55 00:02:28,482 --> 00:02:30,817 or something to that effect. 56 00:02:31,234 --> 00:02:33,487 -You guys ready? -Oh, man. 57 00:02:33,570 --> 00:02:36,114 This is actually shocking to me, 'kay? 58 00:02:36,198 --> 00:02:37,616 I, officially... 59 00:02:39,826 --> 00:02:42,621 have two siblings other than Aspen and Hunter. 60 00:02:42,704 --> 00:02:44,331 -[Liann gasps] -Shut up! 61 00:02:44,414 --> 00:02:45,832 [Liann] I am shocked by it. 62 00:02:45,916 --> 00:02:48,877 I did hear rumors before, when Taylor was younger, 63 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,048 that she possibly had a sibling or two, 64 00:02:53,131 --> 00:02:56,259 and I just didn't believe it at the time. 65 00:02:56,343 --> 00:03:00,305 But there's-- that's always been in my mind that that's a possibility. 66 00:03:00,389 --> 00:03:03,934 I have a little brother and a little sister that is 22 and 24. 67 00:03:04,017 --> 00:03:05,227 [Jeremy] Shut up! 68 00:03:05,310 --> 00:03:06,853 -No way! -[Taylor] Yeah. 69 00:03:06,937 --> 00:03:08,230 [Jeremy] Where do they live? 70 00:03:08,313 --> 00:03:09,439 Colorado Springs. 71 00:03:09,523 --> 00:03:11,024 -All of 'em. -[Jeremy] That's crazy. 72 00:03:11,108 --> 00:03:12,150 [Taylor] So, the mom, it says-- 73 00:03:12,234 --> 00:03:14,903 They all have the same address as of the last time checked. 74 00:03:14,986 --> 00:03:18,031 Um, the girl looks like me, a lot like you, too, 75 00:03:18,115 --> 00:03:20,200 but it's 'cause she has, like, the dark hair and dark eyes. 76 00:03:20,283 --> 00:03:24,579 I feel like, yeah, it's scary to go down this road with her 77 00:03:24,663 --> 00:03:27,332 to find out, like, the truth about Brian. 78 00:03:27,416 --> 00:03:29,084 I've kept it to a, a distance 79 00:03:29,167 --> 00:03:32,421 just because, I don't know, I, I feel like some of it's my fault 80 00:03:32,504 --> 00:03:35,006 the way that her life is. 81 00:03:35,090 --> 00:03:39,928 And so, yes, I was skeptical about her finding out more. 82 00:03:40,011 --> 00:03:44,099 Are you going to reach out to them, or do you want to know, or do you care? 83 00:03:44,182 --> 00:03:46,685 [Taylor] Um... I... Yeah. 84 00:03:46,768 --> 00:03:49,479 I just don't know, like, sometimes people, like, don't wanna look at it. 85 00:03:49,563 --> 00:03:50,647 They, they don't wanna acknowledge it. 86 00:03:50,731 --> 00:03:53,191 Obviously, they're adults, so I can go directly to the children, 87 00:03:53,275 --> 00:03:55,527 but they could be like, "I had no idea." 88 00:03:55,610 --> 00:03:57,320 You know that, like-- They could think that's their dad. 89 00:03:57,404 --> 00:03:58,405 Yeah. 90 00:03:58,905 --> 00:04:02,743 Now that I've had more information about my siblings, 91 00:04:02,826 --> 00:04:04,953 I have a lot of questions, I wanna know even more. 92 00:04:05,036 --> 00:04:06,747 But there is a part of me that's, like, questioning, 93 00:04:06,830 --> 00:04:08,957 "Should I even be doing this right now? Is this the right timing?" 94 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,752 Because I am about to take off and I'm going out to The Bachelorette. 95 00:04:11,835 --> 00:04:14,546 But I am also like, "This is precisely why I need to know, 96 00:04:14,629 --> 00:04:19,134 so I can begin to heal my relationship with men before I leave." 97 00:04:19,217 --> 00:04:22,679 I feel like my trust issues come back to my biological father. 98 00:04:22,763 --> 00:04:24,347 There is a wound there that 99 00:04:24,431 --> 00:04:27,434 the one man that's supposed to love you and be by your side that didn't want you 100 00:04:27,517 --> 00:04:29,936 and you kind of knew that he had a choice there and didn't care. 101 00:04:30,020 --> 00:04:32,397 With Dakota, I think he surfaced that wound a lot. 102 00:04:32,481 --> 00:04:34,691 So, if I want to move forward with someone else, 103 00:04:34,775 --> 00:04:38,153 I feel like I just need more answers on my past and, like, who I am. 104 00:04:38,236 --> 00:04:40,697 ♪♪ 105 00:04:41,740 --> 00:04:43,116 -[♪ theme music playing] -♪ Come thee saints ♪ 106 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,619 ♪ And come thee sinners ♪ 107 00:04:45,702 --> 00:04:49,331 ♪ Hallelujah ♪ 108 00:04:49,414 --> 00:04:51,792 ♪ Listen up ♪ 109 00:04:51,875 --> 00:04:55,170 ♪ I'm the one you've been dreaming of ♪ 110 00:04:55,253 --> 00:04:58,381 ♪ I've got everything you could ever want ♪ 111 00:04:59,007 --> 00:05:02,385 ♪ Try me and you'll see, I'll bring you to your knees ♪ 112 00:05:02,469 --> 00:05:05,013 ♪ Baby, you're gonna believe ♪ 113 00:05:05,096 --> 00:05:08,475 ♪♪ 114 00:05:12,395 --> 00:05:16,066 ♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪ 115 00:05:16,149 --> 00:05:20,070 ♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪ 116 00:05:20,153 --> 00:05:23,406 ♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪ 117 00:05:23,907 --> 00:05:27,661 ♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪ 118 00:05:28,119 --> 00:05:29,496 ♪ Temptation ♪ 119 00:05:32,332 --> 00:05:35,335 [♪ intense music playing] 120 00:05:37,254 --> 00:05:40,924 ♪ I think you forgot who the... I am ♪ 121 00:05:41,967 --> 00:05:44,177 ♪ I'm the original classic, fantastic ♪ 122 00:05:44,261 --> 00:05:46,429 ♪ I'm like Houdini's magic ♪ 123 00:05:46,513 --> 00:05:47,514 [children screaming] 124 00:05:47,597 --> 00:05:49,015 [Zac] Okay, kiddos, let's go outside. 125 00:05:49,099 --> 00:05:51,268 We're gonna go eat. We're gonna go do a little picnic. 126 00:05:53,061 --> 00:05:54,062 Bubbas. 127 00:05:54,729 --> 00:05:56,064 Hey, hey. Hey. 128 00:05:57,524 --> 00:06:00,026 Hey, Bubbas. You need to be nice to your sister, okay? 129 00:06:00,986 --> 00:06:02,654 Jen's schedule for Dancing with the Stars 130 00:06:02,737 --> 00:06:06,533 is 100 times more hectic and busy than we ever expected. 131 00:06:06,616 --> 00:06:08,118 We thought she would have a, like, 132 00:06:08,201 --> 00:06:09,953 you know, a few hours of dance practice a day, 133 00:06:10,036 --> 00:06:11,580 she-- but it's been way more than that. 134 00:06:11,663 --> 00:06:13,373 -Would you like [indistinct]? -No. 135 00:06:13,456 --> 00:06:14,457 -One bite. -No. 136 00:06:14,541 --> 00:06:16,042 [Zac] Well, how 'bout an air-airplane? 137 00:06:16,543 --> 00:06:19,504 So, I've-- I have taken on the role of being the stay-at-home dad. 138 00:06:19,588 --> 00:06:21,798 We're gonna call Mommy real quick and just see how she's doing. 139 00:06:22,507 --> 00:06:24,009 It's completely worth the sacrifice, 140 00:06:24,092 --> 00:06:26,428 but it's been way different than what I expected. 141 00:06:27,512 --> 00:06:29,764 Can you say hi to Mama? Say, "Hi, Mama." 142 00:06:29,848 --> 00:06:31,433 [whines] Mama. 143 00:06:31,516 --> 00:06:33,018 We're just checking in so the kids could see you 144 00:06:33,101 --> 00:06:34,686 before we went down for sleepies. 145 00:06:34,769 --> 00:06:35,854 Hi! 146 00:06:35,937 --> 00:06:38,773 Oh, my gosh! My schedule is absolutely insane. 147 00:06:38,857 --> 00:06:42,360 I'm dancing for six to seven hours a day, 148 00:06:42,444 --> 00:06:45,155 and, right now, I'm feeling a lot of mom guilt. 149 00:06:45,238 --> 00:06:49,159 I am so grateful for Zac, all he's doing for me right now, 150 00:06:49,242 --> 00:06:51,119 but, to be honest, it is hard. 151 00:06:51,578 --> 00:06:53,788 -[over phone] Love you guys. -'Kay, we'll see you in a few hours. 152 00:06:53,872 --> 00:06:54,873 Love you. 153 00:06:54,956 --> 00:06:57,375 -Love you. -[Jen] Love you so much. 154 00:06:57,459 --> 00:06:59,252 Hey, blow Mommy a kiss. Give her a kiss. 155 00:06:59,336 --> 00:07:02,130 I can't see! Love you, Mama. 156 00:07:02,213 --> 00:07:04,883 [grunts] 'Kay, here, you, you read this one. 157 00:07:04,966 --> 00:07:06,718 Daddy's gonna go hurry and put Peanut down. 158 00:07:06,801 --> 00:07:10,597 ♪♪ 159 00:07:11,848 --> 00:07:13,475 -[children shrieking] -Found you! 160 00:07:14,142 --> 00:07:16,186 Please bless Mommy that she can get home safe from dance. 161 00:07:16,269 --> 00:07:19,731 Please bless Papi and Kay-Kay. And we're grateful for our home. 162 00:07:19,814 --> 00:07:22,651 We're grateful for our bed and for all the things we have. 163 00:07:22,734 --> 00:07:24,778 Like, since I left medical school o-over a year ago, 164 00:07:24,861 --> 00:07:27,822 like, I have been putting Jen's dreams and career first 165 00:07:27,906 --> 00:07:30,533 and I have mixed emotions about it. 166 00:07:30,617 --> 00:07:33,870 Part of me is really excited for her 'cause this is her dream, 167 00:07:33,954 --> 00:07:36,665 and then there's part of me that's, like, honestly, like, homesick 168 00:07:36,748 --> 00:07:38,500 and just, like, ready to come home to Utah. 169 00:07:38,583 --> 00:07:40,585 And I think I wanna talk to Jen about that. 170 00:07:40,669 --> 00:07:44,172 But ultimately, we're kind of just in survival mode right now. 171 00:07:44,255 --> 00:07:49,803 Um, yeah, I just don't really know, like, w-what I'm doing with myself, so... 172 00:07:51,054 --> 00:07:52,764 Lately, I don't know why, but I find myself, 173 00:07:52,847 --> 00:07:54,432 after the kids are down, before Jen gets home, 174 00:07:54,516 --> 00:07:55,892 I find myself coming and hiding-- 175 00:07:55,976 --> 00:07:58,228 not hiding, but just sitting in this bathroom. 176 00:07:58,311 --> 00:08:00,271 It just, it just is nice and quiet in here. 177 00:08:00,355 --> 00:08:03,733 Jen is on her fourth, I don't know, 14-hour day in a row 178 00:08:03,817 --> 00:08:06,695 and it's a lot, I'll be honest. 179 00:08:06,778 --> 00:08:09,614 The kids are a lot. Three under three is no joke. 180 00:08:09,698 --> 00:08:10,907 Yeah, I don't know. 181 00:08:13,910 --> 00:08:17,414 [♪ upbeat music playing] 182 00:08:17,497 --> 00:08:19,040 ♪ See those lights? ♪ 183 00:08:19,124 --> 00:08:20,667 ♪ My name's on it ♪ 184 00:08:20,750 --> 00:08:22,502 ♪ See that house? ♪ 185 00:08:22,585 --> 00:08:24,379 ♪ I just bought it ♪ 186 00:08:24,462 --> 00:08:25,463 ♪ Yeah ♪ 187 00:08:29,050 --> 00:08:30,510 Ooh, I love this smell. 188 00:08:30,593 --> 00:08:34,180 Smells like we're gonna whoop some DadTok ass out here. 189 00:08:34,681 --> 00:08:36,141 I wanna see them cry. 190 00:08:36,224 --> 00:08:39,686 I started playing tennis when I was, like, five years old or so. 191 00:08:39,769 --> 00:08:43,565 I played D1 tennis for BYU, and then, I wanted to do pro, 192 00:08:43,648 --> 00:08:46,317 but I got pregnant at 19, so that didn't happen. 193 00:08:46,401 --> 00:08:48,528 I've enjoyed playing pickleball, so much so, 194 00:08:48,611 --> 00:08:50,822 that I put a pickleball court in my backyard. 195 00:08:50,905 --> 00:08:52,615 We wanna use it, so we're really excited. 196 00:08:52,699 --> 00:08:57,162 So, we decided to host a MomTok vs DadTok pickleball tournament. 197 00:08:57,245 --> 00:09:00,498 Feel like we need to talk about why it's important to practice 198 00:09:00,582 --> 00:09:03,043 is because we can never lose to DadTok. 199 00:09:03,126 --> 00:09:04,794 My ego will not allow it. 200 00:09:04,878 --> 00:09:06,379 [laughter] 201 00:09:06,463 --> 00:09:08,923 MomTok was created as an outlet for us moms 202 00:09:09,007 --> 00:09:12,635 to get together, make some videos, have fun, make some money. 203 00:09:12,719 --> 00:09:14,929 And DadTok was created to ride off our coattails. 204 00:09:15,013 --> 00:09:18,183 That being said, MomTok needs to beat DadTok 205 00:09:18,266 --> 00:09:21,186 to kind of put them in their place and humble them a little bit. 206 00:09:21,269 --> 00:09:23,396 They're surprisingly cocky and, like, for what? 207 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,108 Like, you are here because of us. So, remember that. 208 00:09:27,650 --> 00:09:29,277 Oh, wait, Taylor, this is for you, 209 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:30,945 -since you're not playing. -[Taylor] Oh, hell yeah. 210 00:09:31,029 --> 00:09:32,489 -Give me that. -Is she the ref or something? 211 00:09:32,572 --> 00:09:34,532 [Mayci] She's the cheerleader. She gonna talk shit. 212 00:09:34,616 --> 00:09:37,535 So you might wanna practice since you can't practice pickleball. 213 00:09:37,619 --> 00:09:40,580 I know, I wonder if I could just, like, barely T-Rex it, you know? 214 00:09:40,663 --> 00:09:42,749 I'm pretty bummed that I don't get to play pickleball with the girls 215 00:09:42,832 --> 00:09:45,376 because of my breast augmentation I just got done. 216 00:09:45,460 --> 00:09:46,753 I'm still healing from it. 217 00:09:46,836 --> 00:09:49,714 But I am super excited to cheer from the sidelines. 218 00:09:49,798 --> 00:09:52,550 It's been fun to, uh, really get my time in with the girls 219 00:09:52,634 --> 00:09:54,135 before I leave for The Bachelorette. 220 00:09:54,219 --> 00:09:56,554 Can everybody hear me? I feel like this is not loud enough. 221 00:09:56,638 --> 00:09:58,556 Hello? Hello? Oh, guys, I have news. 222 00:09:58,640 --> 00:09:59,766 -What? -What? 223 00:09:59,849 --> 00:10:03,061 I met up with a genealogist, and I have two siblings. 224 00:10:03,144 --> 00:10:04,437 [all] [gasping] What? 225 00:10:04,521 --> 00:10:06,106 On top of my other two siblings. 226 00:10:06,189 --> 00:10:09,109 -Shut up! -Yes. And I did not know. 227 00:10:09,192 --> 00:10:10,819 Wait, that's so wild. 228 00:10:10,902 --> 00:10:12,529 [Taylor] Anyways, that was my news. 229 00:10:12,612 --> 00:10:14,030 -[Mayci] That's crazy. -That's crazy. 230 00:10:14,114 --> 00:10:15,698 -[Taylor] I know, I was like-- -I was not expecting you to say that. 231 00:10:15,782 --> 00:10:17,242 I thought it was gonna be something about Dakota. 232 00:10:17,325 --> 00:10:19,035 -I was stressed. -[Mayci] Yeah, me too. 233 00:10:19,119 --> 00:10:20,120 What guys are all coming? 234 00:10:20,203 --> 00:10:23,164 I think all of 'em besides Conner. 235 00:10:23,248 --> 00:10:25,041 Dakota did, like, college basketball, 236 00:10:25,125 --> 00:10:27,794 so he's pretty good at any sport. 237 00:10:27,877 --> 00:10:30,338 Okay, wait. So, do we have enough boys and girls? 238 00:10:30,421 --> 00:10:32,882 -Hey, that was hard for me to say it... -She can't play. 239 00:10:32,966 --> 00:10:35,510 Oh, she can't play. [gasp] Wait, what do we do then? 240 00:10:35,593 --> 00:10:38,471 Shinia's good at pickleball. I've played with her. 241 00:10:38,555 --> 00:10:40,098 -You can call her. -[Miranda] Maybe I call her. 242 00:10:40,181 --> 00:10:41,474 Shinia is my best friend 243 00:10:41,558 --> 00:10:44,352 and she's also friendly with Taylor and Layla, 244 00:10:44,435 --> 00:10:46,896 and we had a ton of fun together at Stagecoach. 245 00:10:48,231 --> 00:10:49,566 [Jace] Oh, my God! 246 00:10:50,775 --> 00:10:52,193 [Jessi] Here we go! 247 00:10:52,277 --> 00:10:53,903 Shinia and I have played pickleball together 248 00:10:53,987 --> 00:10:55,488 on a number of occasions 249 00:10:55,572 --> 00:10:57,574 and she can definitely hold her own. 250 00:10:57,657 --> 00:11:00,618 I don't know, I think we can-- I think we'll put up a good fight against DadTok. 251 00:11:00,702 --> 00:11:03,246 I think we have a good plan. She'll call Shinia if Shinia can do it, 252 00:11:03,329 --> 00:11:05,498 -if not, Mayci's gonna play twice. -'Kay. 253 00:11:05,582 --> 00:11:07,250 -[♪ upbeat music playing] -♪ Is this love? ♪ 254 00:11:07,333 --> 00:11:09,127 ♪ When you call ♪ 255 00:11:09,210 --> 00:11:11,004 ♪ Say my name ♪ 256 00:11:11,087 --> 00:11:13,089 ♪ Oh, baby, run ♪ 257 00:11:13,173 --> 00:11:14,591 ♪ Is this love? ♪ 258 00:11:15,383 --> 00:11:17,969 I love this place. It's so good. 259 00:11:18,970 --> 00:11:21,264 -You have a reservation? -Yes, it's under Jordan. 260 00:11:21,347 --> 00:11:23,224 Jordan. Perfect. Follow me. 261 00:11:23,308 --> 00:11:24,642 -Thank you. -Thank you. 262 00:11:24,726 --> 00:11:26,978 [Jessi] It's Jordan and my's five-year wedding anniversary 263 00:11:27,061 --> 00:11:31,065 and I'm feeling conflicted because we're trying to work on our marriage, 264 00:11:31,149 --> 00:11:32,775 I'm still struggling with certain things. 265 00:11:32,859 --> 00:11:33,943 Thank you so much. 266 00:11:34,027 --> 00:11:35,403 -Thank you. -[host] You're welcome. 267 00:11:35,486 --> 00:11:38,323 I left my first husband right after our five-year anniversary, 268 00:11:38,406 --> 00:11:41,242 so five years has always felt kind of cursed to me. 269 00:11:41,326 --> 00:11:44,204 And then Jordan and I got together right after my ex and I split. 270 00:11:44,287 --> 00:11:46,539 So, I'm definitely feeling emotional tonight. 271 00:11:46,623 --> 00:11:48,416 [singsongy] ♪ Bacon-wrapped dates! ♪ 272 00:11:48,499 --> 00:11:50,627 I know. I'm excited. What are you gonna get? 273 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:52,712 I'm gonna get the halibut. 274 00:11:52,795 --> 00:11:53,796 [Jessi] Oh, nice. 275 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,800 Um... I can't believe it's our anniversary again. 276 00:11:57,884 --> 00:11:59,344 It's been a hell of a year. 277 00:11:59,427 --> 00:12:00,637 [chuckling] Yeah. 278 00:12:01,346 --> 00:12:02,931 It's been insane. 279 00:12:05,391 --> 00:12:08,770 [awkward silence] 280 00:12:08,853 --> 00:12:10,772 [diners chattering] 281 00:12:14,234 --> 00:12:16,110 I-- Ugh. I'm gonna cry. 282 00:12:16,194 --> 00:12:17,362 What's wrong? 283 00:12:17,862 --> 00:12:19,280 [voice breaking] Um... 284 00:12:19,364 --> 00:12:21,866 five is just harder for me than I thought it was gonna be. 285 00:12:24,702 --> 00:12:25,912 [♪ somber music playing] 286 00:12:25,995 --> 00:12:28,498 Um... just 'cause of, like, 287 00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:31,542 my first marriage ended af-- right after my five-year anniversary 288 00:12:31,626 --> 00:12:33,586 and I didn't realize it was gonna be so triggering. 289 00:12:38,466 --> 00:12:39,467 I'm sorry. 290 00:12:40,885 --> 00:12:43,054 It was, like, five years... 291 00:12:44,222 --> 00:12:46,724 and, like, the anniversary was kind of, like, the unraveling of... 292 00:12:47,850 --> 00:12:48,851 the timeline, I guess. 293 00:12:48,935 --> 00:12:49,936 And then it ended. 294 00:12:50,019 --> 00:12:51,896 And I knew it was ending for a while, obviously. 295 00:12:51,980 --> 00:12:54,357 But now, like, obviously, we're not in, like, an amazing place 296 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,986 and so, it's, like, five years is, like, triggering because of that. 297 00:13:01,823 --> 00:13:05,618 It's tough, but like... I'm just grateful every day 298 00:13:05,702 --> 00:13:10,415 to be in this and working on things and, and fighting for this. 299 00:13:10,498 --> 00:13:11,499 Yeah. 300 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,627 ♪♪ 301 00:13:16,337 --> 00:13:17,964 This dinner's kind of a weird vibe. 302 00:13:18,047 --> 00:13:20,383 Jordan and I have been living in limbo for a while, 303 00:13:20,466 --> 00:13:22,218 and that is mostly my fault 304 00:13:22,302 --> 00:13:24,971 because I just have not been sure about what I want. 305 00:13:25,054 --> 00:13:29,225 But as of right now, we're both committed to really trying and giving it 100%. 306 00:13:29,309 --> 00:13:30,852 And we've kind of decided 307 00:13:30,935 --> 00:13:33,229 that by the end of the year, we're gonna make a decision. 308 00:13:33,313 --> 00:13:35,982 And if we're still in limbo, that means that we need to be done. 309 00:13:36,065 --> 00:13:40,278 For me, like, because of all the things that we've gone through 310 00:13:40,361 --> 00:13:43,156 and my mistakes... and your mistakes, 311 00:13:43,239 --> 00:13:48,494 I think, at, at some point, I would love to, like, renew our vows. 312 00:13:48,578 --> 00:13:50,246 I know, we've just been through so much 313 00:13:50,330 --> 00:13:51,539 and, like, I think that that is something that, 314 00:13:51,622 --> 00:13:53,916 at some point, I would, would be interested in. 315 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,335 -That is, like, my goal. -That is-- 316 00:13:55,418 --> 00:13:59,297 Like, that is what I would ultimately like to work towards. 317 00:13:59,380 --> 00:14:01,424 It just feels like maybe it would be a Band-Aid. 318 00:14:01,507 --> 00:14:03,426 Like, I don't feel like we're in a place 319 00:14:03,509 --> 00:14:05,803 -where that would feel authentic, but-- -I-- Yeah, I'm-I'm not saying we are. 320 00:14:05,887 --> 00:14:07,680 No, I know, I'm-- But, like, it's hard for me 321 00:14:07,764 --> 00:14:09,807 to even say a year from now or two years, I don't know. 322 00:14:11,893 --> 00:14:14,270 Even though Jordan and I are working on things, 323 00:14:14,354 --> 00:14:17,607 it just feels like we're never on the same page 324 00:14:17,690 --> 00:14:19,150 and we can't quite get there. 325 00:14:19,233 --> 00:14:22,487 And I'm trying to give it time, and I'm trying to see if that can change, 326 00:14:22,570 --> 00:14:25,948 but I am open to the possibility that this could work out 327 00:14:26,032 --> 00:14:28,117 and this could make us stronger than ever, 328 00:14:28,201 --> 00:14:30,661 or maybe, we are destined for divorce, 329 00:14:30,745 --> 00:14:33,206 and that has to be a real possibility as well. 330 00:14:39,420 --> 00:14:41,422 [♪ "My Escape" by Kids In America ft. Sam Tinnesz playing] 331 00:14:41,506 --> 00:14:45,259 ♪ You got your claws in me, honey, like a tiger in love ♪ 332 00:14:45,343 --> 00:14:46,636 ♪ I'm swinging blind ♪ 333 00:14:46,719 --> 00:14:49,138 ♪ And you're stunning me without any gloves ♪ 334 00:14:49,222 --> 00:14:51,265 ♪ Oh, yeah, it's all your illusion ♪ 335 00:14:51,349 --> 00:14:52,683 ♪ Always get what you want... ♪ 336 00:14:52,767 --> 00:14:54,185 -[Dakota] Oh, what's up, dude? -[Jordan] What's up, guys? 337 00:14:54,268 --> 00:14:56,020 How's it going, man? How have you been? Good? 338 00:14:56,104 --> 00:14:57,688 You know, hanging in there, dude. Surviving. 339 00:14:57,772 --> 00:14:59,357 Dude, I hope you're doing good, man. 340 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,484 -What'd you order? -[Jordan] I haven't ordered yet. 341 00:15:01,567 --> 00:15:02,777 I'm gonna get a salad. 342 00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:03,861 [Dakota] The struggle, bro. 343 00:15:05,113 --> 00:15:07,198 You guys pumped for tomorrow, for the pickleball tournament? 344 00:15:07,281 --> 00:15:08,408 Dakota, you coming, right? 345 00:15:08,491 --> 00:15:09,784 I don't know. Maybe. 346 00:15:09,867 --> 00:15:11,077 Who, who do you wanna be partnered with? 347 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,412 -I'm pretty damn good. -I don't care. 348 00:15:12,495 --> 00:15:14,080 I have a feeling that you're probably pretty good. 349 00:15:14,163 --> 00:15:15,623 I bet you'd beat Dakota. 350 00:15:15,706 --> 00:15:17,166 You don't play pickleball? Do you play pickleball? 351 00:15:17,250 --> 00:15:18,876 I, I play pickleball, so I understand the movements. 352 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,754 -[Jordan] How many times have you played? -You need to calm down real quick, buddy. 353 00:15:21,838 --> 00:15:25,299 The only thing worse than Dakota's pickleball skills 354 00:15:25,383 --> 00:15:28,845 is that disgusting thing he calls a mustache on his face. 355 00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:30,888 It is... awful. 356 00:15:30,972 --> 00:15:34,767 Went to some store the other day and I was getting glazed. 357 00:15:34,851 --> 00:15:38,104 For some reason, I went in there and, like, every-- there was like, 358 00:15:38,187 --> 00:15:39,689 you know, 20 old ladies in there. 359 00:15:39,772 --> 00:15:42,150 They're like, "Oh, my God, look at you, you're such a great daddy." 360 00:15:42,233 --> 00:15:43,901 I'm like, "Okay." 361 00:15:44,402 --> 00:15:45,820 I was just, like, changing my baby's diaper. 362 00:15:45,903 --> 00:15:47,280 They're like, "Good for you." 363 00:15:48,656 --> 00:15:51,075 Um, Jace, how's, how's Mikayla? How are you guys doing? 364 00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:53,202 Just chugging along. 365 00:15:53,703 --> 00:15:55,121 As far as our issues that we're going through, 366 00:15:55,204 --> 00:15:57,039 it's kind of just still in the same spot. 367 00:15:57,123 --> 00:15:59,375 Right now, in Mikayla and I's relationship, 368 00:15:59,459 --> 00:16:01,752 there's a lot of days where I'm feeling, I'm feeling positive, 369 00:16:01,836 --> 00:16:04,213 but I wake up and I'm thinking, "Okay, things are gonna be better. 370 00:16:04,297 --> 00:16:06,257 "We're gonna get a handle on this-- these skin issues 371 00:16:06,340 --> 00:16:07,633 and these intimacy issues." 372 00:16:07,717 --> 00:16:10,052 And then, there are days where I'm feeling like... 373 00:16:10,928 --> 00:16:13,139 like nothing seems to be working. 374 00:16:13,222 --> 00:16:15,057 We did go to a therapy session. 375 00:16:15,141 --> 00:16:16,184 How are you guys? 376 00:16:16,267 --> 00:16:19,145 I have to convince myself every day that she does love me. 377 00:16:19,228 --> 00:16:24,066 I get so frustrated that I can't even get, like, a kiss from my wife. 378 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:25,818 [crying] I just feel-- 379 00:16:26,486 --> 00:16:30,031 I just feel so guilty that I can't, I can't show up for my kids 380 00:16:30,114 --> 00:16:32,158 and I can't show up for my husband and I can't just-- 381 00:16:32,241 --> 00:16:34,452 I feel like I just can't do anything. 382 00:16:35,578 --> 00:16:39,749 I think we're both feeling stuck and we're not sure how to navigate it 383 00:16:39,832 --> 00:16:41,584 or where to push for movement. 384 00:16:41,667 --> 00:16:45,129 So, like, how do you just stay cool with it if the progress isn't being made? 385 00:16:45,213 --> 00:16:46,881 I'm not cool with it. 386 00:16:46,964 --> 00:16:48,966 Wait, how long are we talking, Jace? 387 00:16:49,050 --> 00:16:50,510 -Well, the thing is... -I don't know if that's super personal. 388 00:16:50,593 --> 00:16:53,387 ...it's not like she's saying, "We're not gonna do this ever." 389 00:16:53,471 --> 00:16:56,182 It's just kind of a, "If we're ever going to do this, 390 00:16:56,265 --> 00:16:58,643 "it's not gonna be for me. I'm not gonna enjoy it. 391 00:16:58,726 --> 00:17:00,937 It's gonna be just for you." And so, I'm kinda, like-- 392 00:17:01,854 --> 00:17:02,855 Ah, shit! 393 00:17:02,939 --> 00:17:05,107 I don't wanna do that. You know what I mean? 394 00:17:05,191 --> 00:17:07,193 -That's so hard. -Yeah. 395 00:17:07,276 --> 00:17:08,861 I'm definitely not okay with it. 396 00:17:08,945 --> 00:17:12,240 But, like, I don't-- If me, me throwing fits about it all the time 397 00:17:12,323 --> 00:17:14,992 and getting in fights about it, it doesn't help anything, so... 398 00:17:15,076 --> 00:17:16,786 -I just feel like that would be so... -The only thing I can do 399 00:17:16,869 --> 00:17:18,162 is just kinda be patient 400 00:17:18,246 --> 00:17:19,497 -and be there for her. -...tough. 401 00:17:19,580 --> 00:17:21,791 Have you even just thought about, like, how long you, you could, like-- 402 00:17:21,874 --> 00:17:24,377 this can last for? Kind of in the same situation? 403 00:17:24,460 --> 00:17:26,462 -Where there's no progress? -[Jace] Well... Yeah. 404 00:17:26,546 --> 00:17:29,340 I think growing up in Utah and in the Mormon culture, 405 00:17:29,423 --> 00:17:34,178 it was very commonplace for men to be the one in charge and the provider. 406 00:17:34,262 --> 00:17:37,473 DadTok is breaking that stigma. 407 00:17:37,557 --> 00:17:40,184 And I think it's something that's been difficult for a lot of us. 408 00:17:40,268 --> 00:17:41,978 Because of those cracks that are created, 409 00:17:42,061 --> 00:17:44,981 sometimes, those cracks can turn into a lot bigger problems. 410 00:17:45,064 --> 00:17:46,232 Honestly, we talked about this, 411 00:17:46,315 --> 00:17:49,610 and I would probably do, like, something like a separation, 412 00:17:49,694 --> 00:17:51,404 like Jordan and Jessi did, at that point. 413 00:17:51,487 --> 00:17:52,613 And then we try that out 414 00:17:52,697 --> 00:17:54,824 and if she was like, "You know what, I'm still not-- 415 00:17:54,907 --> 00:17:56,742 I don't wanna take this seriously. It's not important to me." 416 00:17:56,826 --> 00:17:58,327 -Then... -Yeah. 417 00:17:58,411 --> 00:17:59,745 [Jace] Then, that's that. 418 00:17:59,829 --> 00:18:01,539 It's just a really tough, sensitive thing that-- 419 00:18:01,622 --> 00:18:03,791 And it's so tricky 'cause you can't be pushed 420 00:18:03,874 --> 00:18:05,543 -into that kind of thing, is the thing. -[Dakota] No. 421 00:18:05,626 --> 00:18:07,795 Anyway, appreciate us talking about it, though. 422 00:18:07,878 --> 00:18:09,964 'Cause I feel like talking about it is only gonna help. 423 00:18:10,047 --> 00:18:11,966 We've talked about a separation. 424 00:18:12,049 --> 00:18:16,053 And we've thought about, if we separate, is it gonna create more space for you 425 00:18:16,137 --> 00:18:19,640 to where you're gonna feel like you can work on these issues? 426 00:18:19,724 --> 00:18:22,143 And that's kind of my intent behind it 427 00:18:22,226 --> 00:18:25,271 'cause I can definitely feel hopeless at times. 428 00:18:25,354 --> 00:18:28,566 It's a scary barrel of a gun to look down, for sure. 429 00:18:29,191 --> 00:18:31,319 How 'bout, how 'bout we have an entry fee to the pickleball tournament, 430 00:18:31,402 --> 00:18:34,947 is everyone has to, you know, go do an hour of therapy in order to get in. 431 00:18:35,031 --> 00:18:36,282 [overlapping chatter] 432 00:18:36,365 --> 00:18:38,534 I got enough credits, I got enough credits for all of you. 433 00:18:39,744 --> 00:18:42,913 [♪ upbeat music playing] 434 00:18:45,207 --> 00:18:47,209 ♪ I deserve it, I work hard for it ♪ 435 00:18:48,085 --> 00:18:49,754 ♪ Gimme, gimme, gimme everything ♪ 436 00:18:51,172 --> 00:18:53,257 ♪ I deserve it, I work hard for it ♪ 437 00:18:53,341 --> 00:18:56,594 [Jen] Oh, this restaurant's called-- Is it Jenna or Jemma? 438 00:18:56,677 --> 00:18:59,138 Think it's Jemma, but we can call it Jenna. 439 00:18:59,221 --> 00:19:01,182 [Jen] Jemma. That's cute. 440 00:19:02,183 --> 00:19:04,060 ♪ I deserve it, I work hard for it ♪ 441 00:19:04,977 --> 00:19:07,188 -[sighs] Well, you look nice. -Yeah. Thank you. 442 00:19:07,271 --> 00:19:08,272 I like your shirt. 443 00:19:08,356 --> 00:19:10,858 I got ready, I was-- Felt like we were going on our first date again. 444 00:19:10,941 --> 00:19:13,235 -I was excited. Put on cologne. -[Jen] Really? 445 00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:17,073 Uh-- I wish I could say the same. [laughs] 446 00:19:18,658 --> 00:19:21,786 I'm a wreck. I stink. I smell. 447 00:19:22,286 --> 00:19:23,913 My body hurts. 448 00:19:23,996 --> 00:19:25,748 Zac and I are going on a date tonight, 449 00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:28,334 and, to be honest, this is kind of a big deal because 450 00:19:28,417 --> 00:19:31,087 I can't even remember the last time we had, like, a full-on conversation. 451 00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:32,338 Our life has been so crazy. 452 00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:35,841 Since Dancing with the Stars is eventually gonna come to an end, 453 00:19:35,925 --> 00:19:38,511 I'm starting to ask myself, "Do I wanna stay in LA?" 454 00:19:38,594 --> 00:19:41,305 You know, I kinda need to know will Zac support me, 455 00:19:41,389 --> 00:19:42,598 or will it be too hard? 456 00:19:42,682 --> 00:19:45,017 So, I feel like this date is gonna be really important to us. 457 00:19:45,101 --> 00:19:46,352 Yeah, I'm tired. 458 00:19:46,435 --> 00:19:47,853 You look tired. 459 00:19:48,312 --> 00:19:51,190 Even though I'd-- I really wanna sleep right now, 460 00:19:51,273 --> 00:19:54,568 I know this is important, too, and getting time together. 461 00:19:54,652 --> 00:19:57,488 So, I'm glad that we can have this time. 462 00:19:57,571 --> 00:19:59,407 I've been missing you. It's been-- 463 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:01,784 It's been pretty tough. 464 00:20:01,867 --> 00:20:02,868 Really? 465 00:20:04,662 --> 00:20:08,499 The experience hasn't been fully... what I expected. 466 00:20:08,582 --> 00:20:09,625 I knew you were gonna be busy, 467 00:20:09,709 --> 00:20:13,087 but I thought we were gonna have time to do a lot as a family. 468 00:20:13,170 --> 00:20:16,090 And I think I realized pretty quickly after being here 469 00:20:16,173 --> 00:20:18,175 that that's just not what this is gonna be. 470 00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:22,722 Like, I mean, I've never seen you work so hard, and I'm proud of you, 471 00:20:22,805 --> 00:20:25,474 but at the same time, I'm like, I, I miss you. 472 00:20:26,058 --> 00:20:27,059 Yeah. 473 00:20:27,143 --> 00:20:29,770 And it's just been hard for me that... 474 00:20:30,855 --> 00:20:34,275 like, we never see each other, like, we, we never talk. 475 00:20:36,026 --> 00:20:38,487 It's definitely discouraging hearing Zac talk about 476 00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:40,406 how hard it's been for him 477 00:20:40,489 --> 00:20:43,242 supporting me on this journey just because, 478 00:20:43,325 --> 00:20:45,911 the past five years of our marriage, 479 00:20:45,995 --> 00:20:48,205 that's what I've been doing for him. 480 00:20:48,289 --> 00:20:52,209 He always focuses on what I'm not doing now, 481 00:20:52,293 --> 00:20:54,754 and he forgets, like, what I've done in the past. 482 00:20:54,837 --> 00:20:58,257 It's unfair to put so much pressure on me when he had his turn 483 00:20:58,340 --> 00:21:00,468 and now it's my turn to go after my career, 484 00:21:00,551 --> 00:21:03,012 and he knows that and should support that. 485 00:21:03,512 --> 00:21:06,766 Especially after, like, scoring low last week, 486 00:21:07,725 --> 00:21:09,894 I've, like, put, like, more stress on myself 487 00:21:09,977 --> 00:21:12,480 'cause I'm like, "I do not want to go home." 488 00:21:12,563 --> 00:21:16,358 Like... it's a dream to get that Mirrorball. 489 00:21:16,442 --> 00:21:18,486 Like, I want it so bad. 490 00:21:18,569 --> 00:21:20,821 And so, I'm, like, working so hard, 491 00:21:20,905 --> 00:21:23,574 but feel so much guilt being away at the same time. 492 00:21:23,657 --> 00:21:25,451 It's, like, so much. 493 00:21:25,534 --> 00:21:28,037 And I guess I feel bad, like-- 494 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:30,873 Honestly, even just talking to you right now, I feel bad that... 495 00:21:32,333 --> 00:21:33,667 it's been hard for you. 496 00:21:34,835 --> 00:21:36,045 Does it scare you? 497 00:21:36,128 --> 00:21:39,006 Like, if we were to, like, move down here and, like... 498 00:21:40,216 --> 00:21:44,804 -I wanted, you know... -Like, pursue acting, singing, 499 00:21:44,887 --> 00:21:47,598 like, more of the entertainment industry? 500 00:21:47,681 --> 00:21:48,682 Yeah. 501 00:21:49,850 --> 00:21:50,851 [Zac] Um... 502 00:21:53,521 --> 00:21:54,522 Yeah, it does. 503 00:21:57,608 --> 00:22:01,445 See, I don't want you to feel mom guilt, but, like, our kids do miss you. 504 00:22:01,946 --> 00:22:03,447 I try my best to have a nurturing side, 505 00:22:03,531 --> 00:22:06,075 but, like, I'm not, I'm not Mom, and I can't-- 506 00:22:06,158 --> 00:22:09,078 It's hard for me to fill that void with them even when I try. 507 00:22:09,912 --> 00:22:11,831 -Yeah. -[Zac] And it makes me worried 508 00:22:11,914 --> 00:22:13,624 for our marriage because... 509 00:22:14,792 --> 00:22:18,587 I don't think this life in Hollywood's really set up-- 510 00:22:18,671 --> 00:22:21,715 Like, it's not really super conducive with, like, a healthy marriage. 511 00:22:22,842 --> 00:22:26,095 For example, two days ago, where-- You know, Jan's a great guy. 512 00:22:26,178 --> 00:22:28,305 I have no issues with Jan, super respectful. 513 00:22:28,389 --> 00:22:32,518 But I'm sitting there, you know, walking through Disneyland, 514 00:22:32,601 --> 00:22:35,855 watching my wife dance in front of Cinderella Castle with another man, 515 00:22:35,938 --> 00:22:40,109 I'm like-- "Probably wasn't my plan A," you know? 516 00:22:40,192 --> 00:22:42,736 -[Jen] Yeah. -Um, or plan B or C. 517 00:22:45,489 --> 00:22:46,657 I think everyone knows 518 00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:49,618 that Hollywood is probably not the healthiest place for marriages. 519 00:22:52,413 --> 00:22:54,707 You see a lot of these actors be in relationships, 520 00:22:54,790 --> 00:22:56,125 you see them get divorced multiple times. 521 00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:58,043 I think it just-- it demands so much of you. 522 00:22:58,127 --> 00:23:00,838 Like, I just wanna have open conversations 523 00:23:00,921 --> 00:23:03,757 and I feel like, Jen, instead of wanting to talk to me about these things, 524 00:23:03,841 --> 00:23:05,593 like, she just wants to avoid it. 525 00:23:06,010 --> 00:23:10,639 I do feel like you being a wife has taken, like, the back burner. 526 00:23:10,723 --> 00:23:14,226 I feel like it's Dancing with the Stars, 527 00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:17,104 social media Jen, reality TV Jen, Jen as a mother, 528 00:23:17,187 --> 00:23:18,564 and, like, Jen as a wife 529 00:23:18,647 --> 00:23:20,482 -is not important. -Um... Mm-hmm. 530 00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:23,694 Do not put-- The fact that you just said that, 531 00:23:23,777 --> 00:23:26,280 that I'm putting that before mo-- like being a mom... 532 00:23:26,363 --> 00:23:28,198 -Oh, no, no, no. Sorry-- -...is actually like-- 533 00:23:28,282 --> 00:23:29,742 -[Zac] I'm just saying, like-- -I'm not taking that. 534 00:23:29,825 --> 00:23:31,660 I've put being a mom before-- 535 00:23:31,744 --> 00:23:34,079 I'm not saying-- I'm just saying-- What I was trying to say is, 536 00:23:34,163 --> 00:23:37,249 being a wife, I feel like, takes-- is a back burner 537 00:23:37,333 --> 00:23:40,586 to a lot of the other places that are pulling your energy. 538 00:23:40,669 --> 00:23:43,631 This, this experience isn't for the weak. 539 00:23:44,590 --> 00:23:47,551 Especially being a parent, it's hard. 540 00:23:48,510 --> 00:23:51,722 It'd be so easy if, like, Whitney and I were single. 541 00:23:52,431 --> 00:23:56,101 And we didn't have kids to come home to, a husb-- a spouse to come home to, like-- 542 00:23:56,185 --> 00:23:57,519 That's kind of a crazy comment. 543 00:23:57,603 --> 00:23:59,355 It really would be a piece of cake. 544 00:24:00,356 --> 00:24:01,357 Do you want a divorce? 545 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,900 [♪ tense music playing] 546 00:24:07,196 --> 00:24:09,531 [♪ tense music playing] 547 00:24:09,615 --> 00:24:12,159 No! Did you take my comment that way? 548 00:24:12,242 --> 00:24:14,995 Oh, I, I don't know. I don't-- I didn't know how to take your comment. 549 00:24:15,621 --> 00:24:19,166 I'm literally saying, talking to all the single people on there... 550 00:24:19,249 --> 00:24:20,960 -Yeah. -[Jen] ...when they start complaining, 551 00:24:21,043 --> 00:24:24,713 I literally start laughing 'cause I'm like, "You have no idea. 552 00:24:25,506 --> 00:24:28,634 "You don't have kids to come home to. You don't have a spouse. 553 00:24:28,717 --> 00:24:30,427 "Like, you literally don't have a spouse and kids. 554 00:24:30,511 --> 00:24:34,139 Like, you have yourself. That's all you have to think about." 555 00:24:35,224 --> 00:24:39,186 What it means to be a good wife in the LDS culture is, 556 00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:42,314 you know, to be a stay-at-home wife, to cook, to clean. 557 00:24:42,398 --> 00:24:44,149 I think that's still ingrained in him. 558 00:24:44,233 --> 00:24:47,319 That's why it's even more important I do what I'm doing 559 00:24:47,403 --> 00:24:53,158 because I want to be a representation that your life doesn't stop when you're a mom. 560 00:24:53,242 --> 00:24:54,410 You matter too. 561 00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:57,913 This is a season of life. 562 00:24:57,997 --> 00:25:02,835 Like, just because it's a season of life where you're supporting me fully, 563 00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:07,047 like, doesn't mean that there isn't room for you to grow in the future, 564 00:25:07,131 --> 00:25:08,507 or you to do your own thing. 565 00:25:09,133 --> 00:25:11,885 I don't think that either. And I don't-- I'm not trying to get at that. 566 00:25:11,969 --> 00:25:13,804 And I'm not trying to get at, like, you feeling bad. 567 00:25:13,887 --> 00:25:15,431 Like, that-- that's the-the opposite. 568 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:18,976 But I've literally, in a sense, given up everything to fight for our marriage 569 00:25:19,059 --> 00:25:21,311 and to be here supporting you and your dreams. 570 00:25:21,937 --> 00:25:23,772 I, I remember, like, for many years of our marriage 571 00:25:23,856 --> 00:25:26,567 was only thinking about what I had to do next, 572 00:25:26,650 --> 00:25:28,110 what was on my to-do list, what I was feeling, 573 00:25:28,193 --> 00:25:29,862 -that I never-- -So, we're taking turns! 574 00:25:29,945 --> 00:25:31,947 -Yeah. Yeah. -It's my turn now. 575 00:25:33,115 --> 00:25:37,202 I don't know. Some days, I'm like, "This is too much." 576 00:25:37,703 --> 00:25:38,704 Yeah. 577 00:25:38,787 --> 00:25:41,957 To be honest, I'm very conflicted because [sighs] 578 00:25:42,041 --> 00:25:48,839 I think it's really important that I push for my dreams and goals, 579 00:25:48,922 --> 00:25:52,009 but at the same time, I do prioritize my marriage 580 00:25:52,092 --> 00:25:53,927 and I do want Zac to be happy. 581 00:25:54,011 --> 00:25:58,057 And so, I think that's something I'm just gonna have to take step by step. 582 00:25:58,140 --> 00:26:00,601 ♪♪ 583 00:26:04,521 --> 00:26:07,524 [♪ upbeat music playing] 584 00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:24,458 -[Liann] Is that cute? -[Taylor] Hello. 585 00:26:24,541 --> 00:26:26,001 [Liann] [gasps] Is that your mom? 586 00:26:26,085 --> 00:26:27,836 -[gasps] Hi! -[Liann] Hi! 587 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,922 [Taylor] My handsome boy! 588 00:26:30,005 --> 00:26:31,840 -[Liann] Hi. -[Taylor] Hi. How are you? 589 00:26:31,924 --> 00:26:33,467 [Liann] Good, how are you? 590 00:26:33,550 --> 00:26:35,344 [Taylor] I'm leaving for The Bachelorette, 591 00:26:35,427 --> 00:26:39,306 and honestly, all I can think of is wanting to meet my dad's family 592 00:26:39,389 --> 00:26:42,768 and maybe get some answers before going into that. 593 00:26:42,851 --> 00:26:46,438 I was thinking maybe this weekend we could go to Colorado. 594 00:26:46,522 --> 00:26:47,523 For what? 595 00:26:47,981 --> 00:26:49,191 [Taylor] To get answers. 596 00:26:49,274 --> 00:26:52,027 Did he ever wanna reach out? At any age? Any age? 597 00:26:52,111 --> 00:26:55,030 Um, when he knew I got-- was getting married, 598 00:26:55,114 --> 00:26:57,074 uh, big milestones, graduation, things like that. 599 00:26:57,157 --> 00:26:59,243 Like, "Did he want to? Do you know that?" 600 00:26:59,326 --> 00:27:02,704 Like, I would ask his friend or family, whoever I can get in contact with. 601 00:27:02,788 --> 00:27:05,415 Are the kids-- Do you think, are his kids? One? Both? 602 00:27:05,499 --> 00:27:06,917 Uh, do you think he has more kids out there? 603 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,627 Did he have any other girlfriends after that? Like-- 604 00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:12,005 I have so many questions, I could go off. Like, I don't know anything. 605 00:27:12,089 --> 00:27:14,883 I think this just is really bad timing on your part 'cause we're-- 606 00:27:14,967 --> 00:27:18,554 you're gonna be leaving soon and this is, like, a huge thing. 607 00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:21,056 I don't think there's ever a right time for this, to be honest. 608 00:27:22,057 --> 00:27:24,101 So, have you talked to anyone from the family? 609 00:27:24,184 --> 00:27:25,936 [Liann] Yeah, I talked to them. 610 00:27:26,019 --> 00:27:28,397 And nobody's willing to talk to you. 611 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,066 Like, they're not-- want-- they don't want to. 612 00:27:31,150 --> 00:27:34,736 You're not gonna be able to talk to, like, your-- maybe siblings, 613 00:27:34,820 --> 00:27:35,904 you know, that you have. 614 00:27:35,988 --> 00:27:37,322 [Taylor] I think it could be disruptive, 615 00:27:37,406 --> 00:27:41,493 and I don't want to do that necessarily to a family. 616 00:27:41,577 --> 00:27:43,912 I think that's why I'm trying to get on the side and just get answers 617 00:27:43,996 --> 00:27:46,832 and I don't even need to do anything with them directly. 618 00:27:46,915 --> 00:27:49,543 I just think that timing is, like, an issue and then just-- 619 00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:54,506 it could bring lots of emotions up and I don't know. 620 00:27:55,632 --> 00:27:59,469 I'm obviously hesitant to go back to Pueblo 621 00:27:59,553 --> 00:28:02,139 to bring out the old memories of Brian 622 00:28:02,222 --> 00:28:05,517 and stuff that maybe Taylor won't be excited about 623 00:28:05,601 --> 00:28:08,020 and might be very hurtful. 624 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,482 I want her to have a, a clear mind when she's going on The Bachelorette. 625 00:28:12,566 --> 00:28:15,777 But Taylor needs all the facts, like, today. 626 00:28:15,861 --> 00:28:18,030 If she doesn't get it, it makes her more anxious 627 00:28:18,113 --> 00:28:20,115 and she just has to know. 628 00:28:20,199 --> 00:28:23,952 So, it's better just to get it done and deal with it later. 629 00:28:24,036 --> 00:28:25,913 I mean, I, I want you to know, 630 00:28:25,996 --> 00:28:28,332 like, I want you to get the answers that you deserve 631 00:28:28,415 --> 00:28:30,042 because I just think that you-- 632 00:28:32,211 --> 00:28:34,046 I just think that you deserve, like, 633 00:28:34,546 --> 00:28:35,756 you know, you deserve... 634 00:28:36,924 --> 00:28:37,925 so much. 635 00:28:41,762 --> 00:28:43,764 And I just, I don't know. 636 00:28:46,266 --> 00:28:48,018 Just being 17 637 00:28:48,101 --> 00:28:52,189 and bringing a baby into the world just wasn't smart, you know? But-- 638 00:28:53,106 --> 00:28:55,234 Or at least, like, sometimes I wish, 639 00:28:55,317 --> 00:28:58,278 I don't know, if I-- I coulda gave you up for adoption 640 00:28:58,362 --> 00:29:00,322 and maybe you would've had a, a better life. 641 00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:03,116 I don't, I don't know. Or maybe happier. 642 00:29:03,617 --> 00:29:05,452 I've had a great life, uh... 643 00:29:06,995 --> 00:29:07,996 I... 644 00:29:14,586 --> 00:29:15,587 Sometimes. 645 00:29:16,213 --> 00:29:19,758 It was hard finding out you're pregnant your senior year. 646 00:29:19,841 --> 00:29:21,718 Not only was I young, 647 00:29:21,802 --> 00:29:26,640 but I was gonna be a disappointment to my family, my religion, 648 00:29:26,723 --> 00:29:28,350 you know, the people I go to church with. 649 00:29:28,433 --> 00:29:34,564 And then, also not being stable in my relationship with Brian... 650 00:29:35,232 --> 00:29:36,441 it w-- it was difficult. 651 00:29:36,525 --> 00:29:42,072 And so, sometimes when I look at some of the choices that she makes, 652 00:29:42,155 --> 00:29:47,411 I, I can't help but to feel like if I would've put her up for adoption 653 00:29:47,494 --> 00:29:49,705 that sh-- maybe she would've been happier. 654 00:29:51,456 --> 00:29:54,626 I don't mind, like, you wanting to know. 655 00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:57,921 I just think all these years that, like, we really didn't talk about it, 656 00:29:58,005 --> 00:30:00,340 you just never really asked about it. 657 00:30:00,424 --> 00:30:02,092 Yeah, but you did-- you didn't talk about it at all. 658 00:30:02,175 --> 00:30:03,176 And that's okay like that. 659 00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:05,262 I understand you trying to leave it in the past, right? 660 00:30:05,345 --> 00:30:07,973 But it would've been nice to do this when I was younger, for sure. 661 00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:09,933 Yeah. 662 00:30:10,017 --> 00:30:13,729 This is just hard, and I never, like, brought it to surface. 663 00:30:13,812 --> 00:30:14,938 Yeah. 664 00:30:16,273 --> 00:30:19,693 Well, I'm willing to go with you if that's what you want. 665 00:30:21,236 --> 00:30:22,738 Yeah, I do. I'd like you to come. 666 00:30:24,740 --> 00:30:26,700 There's a part of me that wonders 667 00:30:26,783 --> 00:30:30,037 if this will hurt my mother's and I's relationship 668 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,080 and cause a bigger rift between us. 669 00:30:32,164 --> 00:30:36,168 But if I do get a lot of questions out there asking about, like, my past, 670 00:30:36,251 --> 00:30:38,587 think it'd be nice to have some answers 671 00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:42,049 because, again, that could be down to the very, like, issues of my wounds 672 00:30:42,132 --> 00:30:43,425 of things I maybe want answered. 673 00:30:43,508 --> 00:30:45,802 So, I don't think it hurts to do this either. 674 00:30:46,219 --> 00:30:48,263 [Liann] Like, I just don't know if you'll get the answers 675 00:30:48,347 --> 00:30:50,599 and I don't know if it's gonna be a waste of time. 676 00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:52,392 Well, I guess we'll find out, won't we? 677 00:30:52,476 --> 00:30:53,810 Maybe. 678 00:30:53,894 --> 00:30:55,604 ♪♪ 679 00:31:00,067 --> 00:31:02,486 [♪ upbeat music playing] 680 00:31:11,745 --> 00:31:14,998 [Conner] Liam, don't climb up the slides, that's dangerous. 681 00:31:15,082 --> 00:31:18,377 Go! Ah, Sedona's fast! Ah! 682 00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:20,670 [Zac] How 'bout you make me a strawberry sprinkle one? 683 00:31:20,754 --> 00:31:21,963 Ice cream! 684 00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:24,091 [Zac] I'm looking forward to spending some time with Conner, 685 00:31:24,174 --> 00:31:26,718 especially with someone who's going through such a similar process, 686 00:31:26,802 --> 00:31:29,304 and I feel like he's been handling it super well. 687 00:31:29,388 --> 00:31:32,224 And so, I even want some of his advice on, like, how he's coping with it 688 00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:34,893 and just talk to, like, another adult human being. 689 00:31:34,976 --> 00:31:36,853 Can you guys cook us something for dinner? 690 00:31:36,937 --> 00:31:38,563 -I'd love a snack. -[Nora shrieks] 691 00:31:38,647 --> 00:31:41,316 [Conner] Try and make me the grossest dinner. 692 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,943 [laughing] Yeah! 693 00:31:43,026 --> 00:31:46,446 I feel like Zac and I, the idea of us both moving to LA, 694 00:31:46,530 --> 00:31:49,616 both being stay-at-home parents, definitely felt less isolating. 695 00:31:49,699 --> 00:31:51,159 Feeling like there was another person there 696 00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:54,788 kind of walking a similar experience in life that I was. 697 00:31:54,871 --> 00:31:57,749 Jen and I went on our first "date" last night. 698 00:31:57,833 --> 00:32:00,877 She's just kind of like, "Hey, I'm loving being in L-LA 699 00:32:00,961 --> 00:32:02,421 "and I, like, want to live here. 700 00:32:02,504 --> 00:32:04,589 "And I wanna pursue, like, more opportunities out here. 701 00:32:04,673 --> 00:32:05,966 Like, are you down for that?" 702 00:32:06,049 --> 00:32:09,636 And I don't know how sustainable what we're currently doing is 703 00:32:09,719 --> 00:32:10,762 for the long run. 704 00:32:10,846 --> 00:32:12,222 And I feel like I'm gonna 705 00:32:12,305 --> 00:32:13,974 -explode right now. -[Conner] It's-- It's a, it's a lot. 706 00:32:14,057 --> 00:32:16,143 [Zac] Are you enjoying your break from work, 707 00:32:16,226 --> 00:32:18,270 or do you feel like you could be a stay-at-home dad forever? 708 00:32:18,353 --> 00:32:21,273 That's a great question. I need to have my own thing. 709 00:32:21,356 --> 00:32:23,108 Whitney and I, we're, like, having this conversation 710 00:32:23,191 --> 00:32:25,735 where she's like, "I think it's time for you to quit your job." 711 00:32:25,819 --> 00:32:27,988 I feel like every time I come home from rehearsal, 712 00:32:28,071 --> 00:32:31,825 I'm even more overwhelmed because we're both working. 713 00:32:31,908 --> 00:32:36,163 There is, like, a gravitational pull around your career at the moment, 714 00:32:36,246 --> 00:32:40,459 and I don't think it's too selfish for you to say, 715 00:32:40,542 --> 00:32:43,044 "Hey, I could use the additional support 716 00:32:43,128 --> 00:32:44,671 of you just being a stay-at-home parent." 717 00:32:44,963 --> 00:32:48,550 Ultimately, I decided to leave my job as a technical analyst. 718 00:32:48,633 --> 00:32:49,843 Let me tell ya... 719 00:32:50,427 --> 00:32:51,428 loved my job, 720 00:32:51,511 --> 00:32:54,973 and being a stay-at-home parent, it's very easy to lose a sense of self. 721 00:32:55,056 --> 00:32:56,057 I was a little scared, 722 00:32:56,141 --> 00:32:58,226 less about what other people were going to think about me 723 00:32:58,310 --> 00:33:00,312 and more about how I was going to value myself 724 00:33:00,395 --> 00:33:01,938 and how Whitney was going to value me. 725 00:33:02,022 --> 00:33:04,524 Like, "Oh, am I gonna lo-- am I gonna lose her respect?" 726 00:33:04,608 --> 00:33:08,028 I've tried to take this as an opportunity for me to express myself 727 00:33:08,111 --> 00:33:10,155 in ways I don't think I would've had time for before. 728 00:33:10,238 --> 00:33:12,157 So, something I've been doing... 729 00:33:12,574 --> 00:33:15,076 -[Zac] Tell me. -[Conner] You're not gonna believe this. 730 00:33:16,203 --> 00:33:17,204 Magic! 731 00:33:18,955 --> 00:33:19,956 Have you? 732 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,041 [♪ dramatic music playing] 733 00:33:21,124 --> 00:33:23,210 [Conner] I've been practicing my close-up magic 734 00:33:23,293 --> 00:33:25,128 -and that's given me a lot of purpose. -[Zac laughing] 735 00:33:25,212 --> 00:33:27,714 I've gotten pretty good at it. I practice all night. 736 00:33:27,797 --> 00:33:29,799 So, I can, like, make cards appear out of thin air. 737 00:33:29,883 --> 00:33:32,177 That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. 738 00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:34,179 Close-up magic is an outlet for me. 739 00:33:34,262 --> 00:33:37,432 I would go to talent shows as a kid and I would perform magic. 740 00:33:37,516 --> 00:33:38,517 [laughs] 741 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,810 Is that a little goofy? Maybe. But I love it. 742 00:33:40,894 --> 00:33:42,896 As long as you can find the things that give you value or purpose, 743 00:33:42,979 --> 00:33:46,816 like, being a stay-at-home parent can be not only fulfilling for your children 744 00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:48,068 but fulfilling for you. 745 00:33:48,151 --> 00:33:51,363 I just need something where I can, like, practice and train at. 746 00:33:51,446 --> 00:33:53,240 I just need to stimulate myself some, yeah. 747 00:33:53,323 --> 00:33:56,243 And to be fair, like, Whitney and Jen, when they were stay-at-home moms, 748 00:33:56,326 --> 00:33:57,744 I think they felt the same way. 749 00:33:57,827 --> 00:33:59,663 I think that's why they started TikTok. 750 00:33:59,746 --> 00:34:01,665 -[Conner] That's exactly-- Yeah. -That's how they had their outlet. 751 00:34:01,748 --> 00:34:02,916 I know it's just a season, 752 00:34:02,999 --> 00:34:05,544 but a lot of times, I feel like I'm Jen's husband. 753 00:34:05,627 --> 00:34:06,962 Like, that is my identity. 754 00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:10,423 That's my TikTok, uh, bio. "Whitney's husband." [laughs] 755 00:34:10,507 --> 00:34:12,217 I guess ever since, like, l-leaving medical school, 756 00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:14,386 I'm like, I wanna do something that, like, stimulates my brain. 757 00:34:14,469 --> 00:34:16,846 Something where I, like, I feel fulfilled inside of me 758 00:34:16,930 --> 00:34:19,266 -not just as, like, a parent, I guess. -[Conner] Yeah. 759 00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:21,226 I'm sorry it's been hard. 760 00:34:21,309 --> 00:34:24,896 I don't think this is an easy experience, as fun as it is. 761 00:34:26,982 --> 00:34:29,484 [♪ upbeat music playing] 762 00:34:39,786 --> 00:34:40,996 [Jacob] You ready to play some pickleball? 763 00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:43,873 I'm a little nervous 'cause I don't know how my team's gonna do. 764 00:34:43,957 --> 00:34:46,042 They're a little bit on the beginner side here, 765 00:34:46,126 --> 00:34:48,003 and you know I don't like losing, so... 766 00:34:48,086 --> 00:34:51,756 Today is the first annual MomTok vs DadTok Pickleball Tournament. 767 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,385 With my tennis background, I'm obviously feeling very confident. 768 00:34:55,468 --> 00:34:57,637 I know I'm gonna be the best one on the court. 769 00:34:57,721 --> 00:35:00,223 Jacob will be the second-best, if I were to guess, 770 00:35:00,307 --> 00:35:02,350 because he's pretty good, but I'm obviously better. 771 00:35:02,434 --> 00:35:04,436 With me on MomTok's side, 772 00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:07,689 I am confident that MomTok will be bringing home the trophy. 773 00:35:08,189 --> 00:35:10,400 Oh, my gosh, she's making this, like, legit. 774 00:35:10,483 --> 00:35:13,236 -[Jordan] Wow! -[Jessi] You're, like, getting tents out. 775 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,407 This looks good. Um, I don't think Jessi's on Mayci's team like you wanted. 776 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:21,453 We were trying to put you on Mayci's team so she'd get pissed off. [chuckles] 777 00:35:21,536 --> 00:35:23,747 What? I wouldn't get pissed at her, actually. 778 00:35:23,830 --> 00:35:25,582 [Jessi] After our anniversary dinner, 779 00:35:25,665 --> 00:35:27,709 I feel like Jordan and I have just been really stuck. 780 00:35:27,792 --> 00:35:31,129 'Cause I would just hit one-- I'd hit some lobs to her im-immediately. 781 00:35:31,212 --> 00:35:33,048 [Jessi] I don't think I'm ready to take the next step 782 00:35:33,131 --> 00:35:35,175 of, like, filing for divorce at this point. 783 00:35:35,258 --> 00:35:38,345 Just walking away completely is terrifying to me. 784 00:35:38,428 --> 00:35:40,430 So, I think I'm just waiting to wake up 785 00:35:40,513 --> 00:35:42,557 and, like, feel it in my gut that I need to leave, 786 00:35:42,641 --> 00:35:44,434 and I just haven't felt that quite yet. 787 00:35:44,517 --> 00:35:46,645 -Hello! -Welcome. 788 00:35:46,728 --> 00:35:48,563 -[Jacob] You guys ready to win? -Are you ready to lose? 789 00:35:48,647 --> 00:35:50,106 -Wait, is this us versus MomTok? -[Jacob] Yeah, dude. 790 00:35:50,190 --> 00:35:52,150 That's amazing! 791 00:35:52,233 --> 00:35:53,902 -[Mikayla] You ready to lose? -[Jace] Sure. 792 00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:54,986 Wow! 793 00:35:55,070 --> 00:35:56,571 -[Mayci] Hello! -[group] Hi. 794 00:35:56,655 --> 00:35:57,656 -Hi. -How are you? 795 00:35:57,739 --> 00:35:59,741 -[Taylor] Good. How are you? Hi. -What's up, Ever? 796 00:35:59,824 --> 00:36:01,076 So, you guys are playing too, right? 797 00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:02,952 [Taylor] No, I'm not. I'm here for moral support. 798 00:36:03,036 --> 00:36:04,245 Taylor's not able to play today 799 00:36:04,329 --> 00:36:07,040 'cause she just got her girls redone. Love that for her. 800 00:36:07,123 --> 00:36:09,250 Who's ready to get a good old-fashioned ass-whooping? 801 00:36:09,334 --> 00:36:13,713 So, we are down a player on MomTok and Miranda decided to invite Shinia, 802 00:36:13,797 --> 00:36:15,465 which I think will be a good addition. 803 00:36:15,965 --> 00:36:21,346 Okay, welcome to the first annual MomTok vs DadTok Pickleball Championship. 804 00:36:21,429 --> 00:36:23,515 [all cheering] 805 00:36:23,598 --> 00:36:24,766 Go, MomTok! 806 00:36:24,849 --> 00:36:28,395 [Jacob] There will be three MomTok teams and three DadTok teams. 807 00:36:28,478 --> 00:36:30,814 There'll be five games total. One-game elimination. 808 00:36:30,897 --> 00:36:32,691 And there is a big trophy for the winner. 809 00:36:32,774 --> 00:36:34,693 And I feel like what we should do is whoever wins, 810 00:36:34,776 --> 00:36:37,195 they get "MomTok" engraved in it, or "DadTok." 811 00:36:37,278 --> 00:36:40,240 Whoever loses has to get "MomTok" tattooed on their ass. 812 00:36:40,323 --> 00:36:41,908 -[group exclaims] -Yes! 813 00:36:41,991 --> 00:36:44,536 [Jacob] 'Kay. Shinia and Miranda vs me and Jordan. 814 00:36:44,619 --> 00:36:45,704 Let's go, guys. 815 00:36:45,787 --> 00:36:47,330 [Mayci] Boo, DadTok! 816 00:36:47,414 --> 00:36:48,498 [Miranda] 'Kay, let's go! 817 00:36:48,581 --> 00:36:50,250 [Jacob] 'Kay, let the games begin. 818 00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:51,418 Touch tips for good luck. 819 00:36:51,501 --> 00:36:54,462 [♪ tense music playing] 820 00:36:55,296 --> 00:36:56,381 Dude! 821 00:36:56,464 --> 00:36:58,133 -[group cheering] -What are you doing? 822 00:36:58,216 --> 00:36:59,676 Jordan! 823 00:37:00,260 --> 00:37:02,011 Jordan! Jordan! 824 00:37:02,095 --> 00:37:03,304 [laughing] 825 00:37:03,388 --> 00:37:04,556 Match point. 826 00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:05,640 Let's go! 827 00:37:07,767 --> 00:37:09,978 Yeah! Let's go! 828 00:37:10,061 --> 00:37:11,187 Shit! 829 00:37:11,271 --> 00:37:12,480 [Chase] Oh! Sorry. 830 00:37:12,564 --> 00:37:15,942 This is single-handedly setting back feminism by decades, guys. 831 00:37:16,526 --> 00:37:19,821 Okay, next is me and Mikayla against... 832 00:37:19,904 --> 00:37:20,905 Chase and Mase. 833 00:37:22,282 --> 00:37:24,284 That was rude. Let's get a lead. Ready? 834 00:37:27,871 --> 00:37:29,789 You can sit by me. It's not a sin. 835 00:37:29,873 --> 00:37:32,584 -I'm not trying to-- "A sin"? -Or, uh, like a rule. 836 00:37:33,334 --> 00:37:36,504 Sorry, baby, your ears are probably just ruined. 837 00:37:36,588 --> 00:37:38,631 [laughing] From me. 838 00:37:38,715 --> 00:37:39,841 -Sorry, babe. -I know. 839 00:37:39,924 --> 00:37:41,217 He's like, "You're not even my mom." 840 00:37:41,301 --> 00:37:43,720 Okay. She loves-- It's a girl, and she loves me. 841 00:37:43,803 --> 00:37:45,388 -You said "he." -I said "it." 842 00:37:45,472 --> 00:37:47,432 -Well, why'd you say "it"? -Because I couldn't remember. 843 00:37:47,515 --> 00:37:49,517 You should see how much she smiles at me. 844 00:37:49,601 --> 00:37:51,227 -She smiles so much with me. -Let me see. 845 00:37:51,311 --> 00:37:54,063 Okay, we'll let you know she's happy now and let's take... 846 00:37:54,147 --> 00:37:56,107 -Hi. -[group exclaims] 847 00:37:56,191 --> 00:37:57,192 Hi. 848 00:37:57,275 --> 00:37:58,902 I love how we're getting along now. 849 00:38:00,028 --> 00:38:02,155 I've always been good. 850 00:38:02,238 --> 00:38:03,239 [Jessi] Alright. 851 00:38:03,323 --> 00:38:04,824 -No. I'm serious. -We're not gonna go that far. 852 00:38:06,075 --> 00:38:07,160 [Mikayla] Got it. 853 00:38:07,243 --> 00:38:09,871 Nice, Mayc-- Nice, Mayc! 854 00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:11,748 -Fuck! -[group cheering] 855 00:38:11,831 --> 00:38:14,542 -Great job. Great job. -Yes, good, good game. 856 00:38:14,626 --> 00:38:16,211 [Jacob] Mayci and Mikayla won. 857 00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:18,797 The next teams are gonna be Jessi and Layla... 858 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,925 -Woo! -[Jacob] ...playing team Jace and Dakota. 859 00:38:22,008 --> 00:38:23,009 Oh, good luck. 860 00:38:23,426 --> 00:38:26,346 -'Kay. -[Layla] I am actually genuinely scared. 861 00:38:27,555 --> 00:38:29,307 -Oh. -Yeah. Good, good first try! 862 00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:30,475 [Jace] That was the warm-up hit. 863 00:38:30,558 --> 00:38:31,851 [Dakota] Oh, shit. 864 00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:33,812 [Jessi] [laughing] Layla! 865 00:38:33,895 --> 00:38:35,814 Just hit it like that but twice as hard. 866 00:38:35,897 --> 00:38:39,567 We are about to absolutely embarrass the shit out of MomTok. 867 00:38:40,235 --> 00:38:41,444 I am not athletic. 868 00:38:41,528 --> 00:38:42,737 -[Jessi] Run! -[Layla grunts] 869 00:38:42,821 --> 00:38:43,822 I'm just not coordinated. 870 00:38:43,905 --> 00:38:45,323 -'Kay. Oh! -Oh, no. 871 00:38:45,406 --> 00:38:48,076 I just-- I don't understand like-- [sighs] 872 00:38:48,576 --> 00:38:50,620 -God! -[Jessi] Oh, my gosh, Layla! 873 00:38:50,703 --> 00:38:53,748 The fact that they paired Layla and I together is diabolical. 874 00:38:54,457 --> 00:38:56,709 Given Jessi's performance, you would never guess 875 00:38:56,793 --> 00:39:00,672 that she has a whole-ass pickleball court in her very backyard. 876 00:39:00,755 --> 00:39:02,006 Little quicker next time. 877 00:39:02,090 --> 00:39:03,299 I'm just disappointed. 878 00:39:04,133 --> 00:39:05,885 -[Jessi] That was it? -[Jace] Yeah. 879 00:39:05,969 --> 00:39:07,303 [Jessi] Good game. [laughs] 880 00:39:08,930 --> 00:39:11,349 How are you? Sad? 881 00:39:11,432 --> 00:39:12,851 -Yeah. -Ah. 882 00:39:12,934 --> 00:39:17,313 Shinia and I-- I have been really trying to help her with her recent breakup. 883 00:39:17,814 --> 00:39:21,192 She does want just a friend to be like, "I get you, I understand you." 884 00:39:21,276 --> 00:39:23,903 And I've been there, so, like, I just wanted to be there for her. 885 00:39:23,987 --> 00:39:25,989 Update me. What, what's the verdict? 886 00:39:26,406 --> 00:39:28,658 He blocked me on everything 887 00:39:28,741 --> 00:39:32,787 and they're just acting like they're a perfect little family. 888 00:39:35,707 --> 00:39:36,708 Why? 889 00:39:41,129 --> 00:39:42,297 I'm sorry, but were they ever? 890 00:39:43,756 --> 00:39:45,174 [Taylor] That is wild! 891 00:39:45,258 --> 00:39:47,552 This is why I can't trust people-- any-anybody. 892 00:39:48,845 --> 00:39:50,054 [Jordan] Jess, come here. 893 00:39:59,564 --> 00:40:03,192 I am kind of wondering what's gonna go down with Shinia here right now 894 00:40:03,276 --> 00:40:05,528 because Dakota and her did DM. 895 00:40:05,612 --> 00:40:09,824 Oh! That reminds me. He sent Shinia a DM. 896 00:40:10,491 --> 00:40:11,951 Wait, saying what? 897 00:40:12,035 --> 00:40:13,578 -[Miranda] It was like-- -Was it flirtatious? 898 00:40:14,746 --> 00:40:17,373 It-- Uh... I, I think kind of. 899 00:40:17,457 --> 00:40:18,833 But it was kind of, like, open-ended, 900 00:40:18,917 --> 00:40:20,126 -like, it was-- -Okay. 901 00:40:20,209 --> 00:40:22,003 I'll, I'll see if she'll send me the screenshot. 902 00:40:22,086 --> 00:40:23,546 Wait, that's so crazy. 903 00:40:23,796 --> 00:40:26,132 -Don't make it a thing, like-- -No, I'm not. 904 00:40:26,215 --> 00:40:29,052 I-I'm just saying, like, no one needs to make it a thing. It's just irrelevant. 905 00:40:29,135 --> 00:40:30,762 I don't feel like it was that big of a deal 906 00:40:30,845 --> 00:40:32,013 based off of what I heard. 907 00:40:32,096 --> 00:40:33,806 But I genuinely feel like 908 00:40:33,890 --> 00:40:35,642 we shouldn't tell Taylor anything at the moment 909 00:40:35,725 --> 00:40:37,644 because Taylor's emotions are fragile, 910 00:40:37,727 --> 00:40:40,021 and I just don't think that this is the best thing for her to hear 911 00:40:40,104 --> 00:40:41,356 before The Bachelorette. 912 00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:45,109 Mayci and Mikayla, you guys are up next. You're gonna play Jace and Dakota. 913 00:40:45,193 --> 00:40:46,444 [Dakota] You ready for this shit? 914 00:40:46,527 --> 00:40:47,570 [Mayci] 'Kay, let's do it. 915 00:40:48,905 --> 00:40:51,240 You got it. Nice, Mayc. 916 00:40:51,324 --> 00:40:53,242 -Shit! -[Jace] Oh, sorry, dude. 917 00:40:53,326 --> 00:40:56,162 [Mayci] I know I can't miss one ball or else our team may go down. 918 00:40:56,245 --> 00:40:57,664 I have to be the one to carry it. 919 00:40:57,747 --> 00:41:00,750 But I played tennis, so this is, like, second nature for me. 920 00:41:00,833 --> 00:41:02,043 Let's just get this done. 921 00:41:02,126 --> 00:41:04,462 [Dakota] Damnit! Shit! Damnit! 922 00:41:04,545 --> 00:41:06,547 -Go Mayci! Woo-hoo! -Yeah. Woo! 923 00:41:06,631 --> 00:41:09,676 You got it? Mayci! Mayci! 924 00:41:09,759 --> 00:41:12,679 I think Mayci's strategy is starting to make sense. 925 00:41:12,762 --> 00:41:16,182 And that's for me to just sit back and let her take all the balls. 926 00:41:16,265 --> 00:41:17,642 Just stay behind, get my back. 927 00:41:17,725 --> 00:41:20,561 I'll just stand here in my miniskirt looking good. 928 00:41:22,605 --> 00:41:23,982 I wasn't even paying attention there! 929 00:41:25,566 --> 00:41:26,567 [Mikayla] Nice! 930 00:41:26,651 --> 00:41:27,944 [Dakota] Damnit, Mayci! 931 00:41:28,027 --> 00:41:29,028 [Mayci] Yep, we won. 932 00:41:29,112 --> 00:41:30,863 -[cheering] -MomTok needs to bring home the win 933 00:41:30,947 --> 00:41:32,573 'cause... DadTok. 934 00:41:32,657 --> 00:41:34,283 So, bring it on, little boys. 935 00:41:35,243 --> 00:41:38,329 Okay, it is time for the championship round. 936 00:41:38,746 --> 00:41:42,917 We have Jacob and Jordan vs me and Mikayla. 937 00:41:43,001 --> 00:41:44,043 -Woo! -Let's go, boys. 938 00:41:44,127 --> 00:41:45,211 [Jacob and Jordan grunting] 939 00:41:45,294 --> 00:41:46,713 Lord have mercy! 940 00:41:46,796 --> 00:41:49,007 [♪ tense music playing] 941 00:41:54,595 --> 00:41:55,805 [♪ tense music playing] 942 00:41:55,888 --> 00:41:58,057 [Jessi] Go, M&M! Woo! 943 00:41:58,141 --> 00:42:00,226 [♪ tense music playing] 944 00:42:00,685 --> 00:42:02,228 [all cheering] 945 00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:05,273 Let's go, Mayci! 946 00:42:06,357 --> 00:42:07,942 -[Jacob] Oh, shoot! -Nice, Mayc-- Yeah, there you go. 947 00:42:08,026 --> 00:42:09,027 Damnit! 948 00:42:09,402 --> 00:42:11,404 Okay, we got this in the bag. 949 00:42:11,487 --> 00:42:14,282 [♪ tense, dramatic music playing] 950 00:42:14,365 --> 00:42:16,075 Scoot up. Scoot up. Oh! Oh-ho! 951 00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:17,326 [Jace] Game point. 952 00:42:17,410 --> 00:42:20,913 ♪♪ 953 00:42:21,956 --> 00:42:24,375 -[Mayci] Aw, shit. -[Jordan] Let's go! 954 00:42:24,459 --> 00:42:27,295 -[Jace] DadTok, 7, MomTok, 5. -[DadTok cheering] 955 00:42:27,378 --> 00:42:29,380 DadTok wins. 956 00:42:30,131 --> 00:42:31,507 [Mikayla] Get your shirt back on. 957 00:42:31,591 --> 00:42:33,551 This is way too much testosterone. I'm out. 958 00:42:33,634 --> 00:42:35,803 You guys, I am ashamed. 959 00:42:35,887 --> 00:42:38,347 We didn't take it home for MomTok. DadTok won. 960 00:42:38,431 --> 00:42:41,559 And the reason why it hurts is because the ego, they just have such big egos. 961 00:42:41,642 --> 00:42:44,604 [Dakota] Mayci! Look! [laughs] 962 00:42:44,687 --> 00:42:46,731 [Mayci] The one thing you've won in life, Dakota. 963 00:42:47,398 --> 00:42:49,734 Yeah, it's a joke, and I shouldn't have lost. 964 00:42:49,817 --> 00:42:51,194 -That's hilarious. -[Jordan exhales] 965 00:42:51,277 --> 00:42:52,612 That was depressing. 966 00:42:54,781 --> 00:42:57,366 [♪ upbeat music playing] 967 00:42:57,450 --> 00:42:58,951 ♪ It's gonna be alright ♪ 968 00:43:04,957 --> 00:43:06,501 ♪ It's gonna be alright ♪ 969 00:43:08,878 --> 00:43:10,046 ♪ Alright ♪ 970 00:43:10,129 --> 00:43:14,550 Zac and I are starting to question what's next for us. 971 00:43:14,634 --> 00:43:18,805 I'm starting to ask myself what do I want? Uh, what do we both want? 972 00:43:18,888 --> 00:43:22,016 Do I wanna stay in LA? Do I want to move back to Utah? 973 00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:25,561 Am I gonna continue going to the LDS church? 974 00:43:26,062 --> 00:43:27,063 How was today? 975 00:43:27,730 --> 00:43:29,690 It was tiring just with the kiddos. 976 00:43:29,774 --> 00:43:32,235 -Yeah, it can be a lot. -Yeah. 977 00:43:32,318 --> 00:43:35,780 I dunno how we're doing this. This is crazy what we're doing. 978 00:43:35,863 --> 00:43:39,784 Having a family and also trying to pursue a career is really, really tough 979 00:43:39,867 --> 00:43:42,453 because it's almost like someone has to... 980 00:43:42,537 --> 00:43:43,621 Get the short end of the stick. 981 00:43:43,704 --> 00:43:44,914 Someone has to get the short end of the stick 982 00:43:44,997 --> 00:43:47,834 and kind of sacrifice their life or their goals or their career 983 00:43:47,917 --> 00:43:49,252 at least for a period of time 984 00:43:49,335 --> 00:43:51,921 for the other person to thrive and do what they wanna do. 985 00:43:52,004 --> 00:43:53,381 -Yeah. -So, it's so hard to balance. 986 00:43:53,464 --> 00:43:56,801 Like, how do we find all of that and how do we both, like, live our dreams, 987 00:43:56,884 --> 00:43:58,553 but also give our kids what they deserve, 988 00:43:58,636 --> 00:44:01,973 and how do we also keep our marriage healthy and happy? 989 00:44:02,056 --> 00:44:04,767 But it's so hard to do all of it. Like, it's not possible. 990 00:44:04,851 --> 00:44:06,686 Yeah. Have you talked to Conner about it? 991 00:44:06,769 --> 00:44:07,937 Like, how is he juggling? 992 00:44:09,188 --> 00:44:11,858 I mean, if it tells you how he's doing, he's trying to become a magician. 993 00:44:11,941 --> 00:44:13,359 Isn't that funny? 994 00:44:13,442 --> 00:44:15,903 It's great! It fits Conner perfectly. 995 00:44:15,987 --> 00:44:19,115 Like, he's trying to find himself, and, like, I'm proud of him. 996 00:44:19,198 --> 00:44:20,491 -[Jen] That's awesome. -Like, I told-- I was telling him today 997 00:44:20,575 --> 00:44:23,536 like, "You've inspired me to, like, try to figure out what I wanna do." 998 00:44:23,619 --> 00:44:25,163 Talking to Conner definitely helped. 999 00:44:25,246 --> 00:44:27,331 And, you know, whether people think it's silly or not, 1000 00:44:27,415 --> 00:44:29,458 like, seeing Conner pursue something that makes him happy 1001 00:44:29,542 --> 00:44:32,795 also has, like, made me realize, like, I need to not just have this mindset 1002 00:44:32,879 --> 00:44:35,298 of like, "I'm surviving and, like, I'm taking care of the kids for, like, 1003 00:44:35,381 --> 00:44:37,633 a period of time." This might last forever. 1004 00:44:37,717 --> 00:44:39,343 And so, I think I need to find a way 1005 00:44:39,427 --> 00:44:42,013 to find joy in this journey and find my own things. 1006 00:44:42,096 --> 00:44:45,391 And so, Conner kind of made me want to, like, try to go find my own thing 1007 00:44:45,474 --> 00:44:47,393 and have some stuff going for me as well. 1008 00:44:48,227 --> 00:44:52,106 Do you realistically see us staying down here 1009 00:44:52,190 --> 00:44:57,403 and somehow, you know, supporting me and still my dreams and goals 1010 00:44:57,486 --> 00:44:59,238 while trying to pursue yours? 1011 00:44:59,322 --> 00:45:01,824 I feel like our marriage has matured and grown a ton, 1012 00:45:02,909 --> 00:45:07,747 but I have realized there's more hard conversations that need to be had. 1013 00:45:07,830 --> 00:45:09,498 I think there's more therapy that we need to do. 1014 00:45:09,582 --> 00:45:13,920 I think there's, honestly, like, more, more of a connection with God 1015 00:45:14,003 --> 00:45:16,380 because it's so easy to get lost. 1016 00:45:16,464 --> 00:45:19,050 I mean, I think that's work that I'm 100% willing to do 1017 00:45:19,133 --> 00:45:21,344 and I, I hope we can do together. 1018 00:45:21,844 --> 00:45:24,680 Like, I wouldn't want you to turn down opportunities... 1019 00:45:25,681 --> 00:45:27,558 because of, like, my insecurities. 1020 00:45:27,642 --> 00:45:28,935 Like, I want to do the work so, like, 1021 00:45:29,018 --> 00:45:31,854 we can both do all the things we want to do... 1022 00:45:32,688 --> 00:45:34,190 while still making it work. 1023 00:45:34,273 --> 00:45:37,109 Well, thank you for supporting me in all my dreams and goals. 1024 00:45:37,193 --> 00:45:38,736 Like, I genuinely can't tell you, 1025 00:45:38,819 --> 00:45:42,490 like, how grateful I am for you in this season of life. 1026 00:45:42,573 --> 00:45:46,452 I know this is not what you expected, and I know it's been challenging for you, 1027 00:45:46,535 --> 00:45:50,706 but, like, honestly, like, I think there have been moments in our marriage 1028 00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:53,084 where I've been like, "I don't know if this is gonna work." 1029 00:45:53,167 --> 00:45:57,338 And, honestly, like, this stage of life has just reconfirmed for me 1030 00:45:57,421 --> 00:46:01,592 just, like, how much you actually care and how much you, you love me. 1031 00:46:01,676 --> 00:46:04,178 And... I just wanted to let you know. 1032 00:46:05,388 --> 00:46:06,722 Well, thank you. 1033 00:46:08,266 --> 00:46:10,977 I still question if I'm doing the right thing, 1034 00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:14,730 and I can't help but feel, like, a lot of guilt and shame 1035 00:46:14,814 --> 00:46:15,856 trying to pursue my career. 1036 00:46:15,940 --> 00:46:17,441 I know you're so tired. 1037 00:46:17,525 --> 00:46:21,737 I worry if Zac's truly gonna be fulfilled and happy in our marriage 1038 00:46:21,821 --> 00:46:25,074 or would he be happier with a traditional wife? 1039 00:46:25,157 --> 00:46:26,200 I don't know. I guess we just have to-- 1040 00:46:27,118 --> 00:46:29,370 -Take one step at a time? -Take one step at a time. 1041 00:46:29,453 --> 00:46:32,581 [♪ upbeat music playing] 1042 00:46:40,631 --> 00:46:42,758 That feels good. It's nice and warm and toasty. 1043 00:46:42,842 --> 00:46:44,343 I know, it's cold here and cloudy. 1044 00:46:44,427 --> 00:46:46,679 It is, huh. What's up with this weather? 1045 00:46:48,139 --> 00:46:49,765 -Yep. -Hopefully. 1046 00:46:49,849 --> 00:46:51,600 My mom and I just got into Colorado 1047 00:46:51,684 --> 00:46:55,604 and my biological dad's family is not super comfortable 1048 00:46:55,688 --> 00:46:59,650 with wanting to be on camera and give us answers 1049 00:46:59,734 --> 00:47:01,986 and, and, and, you know, talk about this at all, to be honest. 1050 00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:04,363 However, we found someone that does want to. 1051 00:47:04,447 --> 00:47:08,576 And we are meeting up with my biological dad's best friend. 1052 00:47:08,659 --> 00:47:12,538 [Liann] Have you talked to Steve, like, Brian's friends? 1053 00:47:12,621 --> 00:47:13,622 -No. -[Liann] No? 1054 00:47:13,706 --> 00:47:15,499 If you want, I can call him right now. 1055 00:47:15,583 --> 00:47:18,169 We can ask him if he's down to meet up. Maybe we can go meet him. 1056 00:47:18,252 --> 00:47:21,172 He probably knows him better than anybody because they've been friends for so long, 1057 00:47:21,255 --> 00:47:22,465 I think, up until he passed. 1058 00:47:22,548 --> 00:47:27,595 So, I'm really hoping to get as many answers as I can through him. 1059 00:47:28,179 --> 00:47:29,263 When's the last time you saw him? 1060 00:47:29,347 --> 00:47:30,639 -Who? Steve? -Mm-hmm. 1061 00:47:30,723 --> 00:47:31,724 A long time ago. 1062 00:47:31,807 --> 00:47:33,184 Do you even know what he looks like? 1063 00:47:33,267 --> 00:47:34,268 -[Liann] Yeah. -You do? 1064 00:47:34,352 --> 00:47:36,937 -Yeah, I'm Facebook friends with him. -Mm. 1065 00:47:37,855 --> 00:47:39,023 Did you ever like him? 1066 00:47:39,106 --> 00:47:40,483 -We went out. -You did? 1067 00:47:40,566 --> 00:47:41,817 -[Liann] Yeah. -Like, you dated him? 1068 00:47:41,901 --> 00:47:44,195 Yeah, he was, like, my-- he was my so-called "boyfriend" 1069 00:47:44,278 --> 00:47:45,946 for, like, 30 days or I don't know how long. 1070 00:47:46,030 --> 00:47:48,657 -Wait, what? -No, twe-- maybe, like, two weeks. 1071 00:47:48,741 --> 00:47:50,785 Wait, so you dated best friends? 1072 00:47:50,868 --> 00:47:53,287 No, I-- that was before I dated Brian. 1073 00:47:53,371 --> 00:47:55,998 I know, but, like, they were best friends, so you dated him after. 1074 00:47:56,082 --> 00:47:57,375 Oh. Yeah. 1075 00:47:57,458 --> 00:47:58,459 [Taylor chuckles] 1076 00:47:59,043 --> 00:48:00,336 Homie Hopper. That's what they call it. 1077 00:48:00,419 --> 00:48:01,962 -Yeah. -[Taylor] That is funny. 1078 00:48:02,046 --> 00:48:06,884 Being back in Colorado definitely is giving me more anxiety 1079 00:48:06,967 --> 00:48:10,554 about meeting with Steve, Brian's best friend. 1080 00:48:10,638 --> 00:48:14,725 It's bringing up all these emotions that I have put in the back of my life 1081 00:48:14,809 --> 00:48:18,813 and something that I just don't want to have to bring up again. 1082 00:48:18,896 --> 00:48:20,398 It's just overwhelming. 1083 00:48:21,065 --> 00:48:23,692 How is Jessi and Jordan doing? 1084 00:48:23,776 --> 00:48:25,611 Is their relationship any better? 1085 00:48:25,694 --> 00:48:27,321 -No. I think-- -[Liann] No? 1086 00:48:27,405 --> 00:48:28,781 No, I think she ends up leaving him. 1087 00:48:28,864 --> 00:48:29,990 [gasps] You do? 1088 00:48:30,074 --> 00:48:31,826 Yeah. I've always told you that. 1089 00:48:31,909 --> 00:48:33,369 I know. That's sad, though. 1090 00:48:33,452 --> 00:48:34,453 I like Jordan. 1091 00:48:35,121 --> 00:48:36,872 -Ew. Why? -I just do. 1092 00:48:37,456 --> 00:48:38,707 He's like Dakota. 1093 00:48:38,791 --> 00:48:41,836 All they do is lie and play telephone. It's weird. 1094 00:48:41,919 --> 00:48:43,796 They tell everyone everything, and then they, like, twist it. 1095 00:48:43,879 --> 00:48:44,964 It's weird shit. 1096 00:48:45,047 --> 00:48:46,715 And him and Dakota, it's hard when you hear things 1097 00:48:46,799 --> 00:48:48,175 'cause it's, like, they're both liars, 1098 00:48:48,259 --> 00:48:49,760 so now it's like you don't even know which one. 1099 00:48:49,844 --> 00:48:51,345 -It's like-- -We don't need to talk about that. 1100 00:48:51,429 --> 00:48:53,222 That's like, we're-- I wanna get over that. 1101 00:48:53,305 --> 00:48:56,767 I do not wanna talk about Dakota right now 1102 00:48:56,851 --> 00:48:59,353 because she goes from 0 to 100 1103 00:48:59,437 --> 00:49:02,940 and she gets really upset, and then it gets me upset, 1104 00:49:03,023 --> 00:49:04,900 and it's just not good for anybody. 1105 00:49:04,984 --> 00:49:09,029 And especially to bring up when we're going to meet Steve. 1106 00:49:09,113 --> 00:49:11,615 -[Taylor] All you do is deflect. -[Liann] You deflect! 1107 00:49:11,699 --> 00:49:13,909 And I think it's weird that if he does all this stuff 1108 00:49:13,993 --> 00:49:15,619 that you kept going back and forth with him 1109 00:49:15,703 --> 00:49:17,997 -and sleeping with him. -Then you're not listening ever in therapy 1110 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,583 because it's a cycle. How many times have we gone over this? 1111 00:49:20,666 --> 00:49:22,042 I've already explained that to you. 1112 00:49:22,126 --> 00:49:23,752 Why are you asking me that right now? 1113 00:49:23,836 --> 00:49:26,881 My mom triggers me because it's what she says, how she says it, 1114 00:49:26,964 --> 00:49:28,382 her face, the approach. 1115 00:49:28,466 --> 00:49:30,676 'Cause she's so judgmental about Dakota. 1116 00:49:30,759 --> 00:49:33,429 So, it's like, "You're not getting it. You're not getting it." 1117 00:49:33,512 --> 00:49:36,724 And honestly, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. 1118 00:49:37,391 --> 00:49:39,310 I already told you. I didn't think it was g-- 1119 00:49:39,393 --> 00:49:41,687 -I didn't care if he dated-- -Lied? 1120 00:49:41,770 --> 00:49:44,106 If he lied when you first dated him. 1121 00:49:44,190 --> 00:49:46,901 I already told you that 500 times. 1122 00:49:46,984 --> 00:49:48,402 Why-- How do you not get it? 1123 00:49:48,903 --> 00:49:52,281 This is not how I wanted the trip to start. 1124 00:49:52,364 --> 00:49:58,037 Taylor has so much resentment and anger built up with Dakota, 1125 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,624 and I don't understand why I get to be the person 1126 00:50:01,707 --> 00:50:03,501 that she always takes it out on. 1127 00:50:04,084 --> 00:50:05,920 I already told you where I felt. 1128 00:50:06,003 --> 00:50:07,880 Those were my feelings. I didn't care! 1129 00:50:07,963 --> 00:50:10,257 You didn't care? Good to know! 1130 00:50:10,341 --> 00:50:13,385 No, I didn't care that he dated other girls 1131 00:50:13,469 --> 00:50:16,013 -when you first dated-- -That wasn't the point! 1132 00:50:16,096 --> 00:50:19,350 -It's the fucking lies the whole time! -[Liann] I don't care! 1133 00:50:19,433 --> 00:50:21,185 What do you mean you don't care? 1134 00:50:21,268 --> 00:50:23,771 I cared about that. I cared about that later on. 1135 00:50:23,854 --> 00:50:24,980 Why didn't you ask him then? 1136 00:50:25,064 --> 00:50:27,483 "Why did you lie to our daughter for two years, you disgusting human?" 1137 00:50:27,566 --> 00:50:29,902 -Why didn't you ask him? -We didn't know he lied all that time. 1138 00:50:29,985 --> 00:50:33,405 We knew that he lied when he first dated you, and you told us. 1139 00:50:33,489 --> 00:50:36,116 We found out that day that we-- 1140 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,452 -Stop yelling. -No, you can't fucking talk. Listen. 1141 00:50:38,536 --> 00:50:40,287 -No! Stop yelling. -You're the fucking mom. 1142 00:50:40,371 --> 00:50:41,830 -You're the fuck-- Be a fucking mom. -[Liann] I don't care. 1143 00:50:41,914 --> 00:50:44,124 Stop-- Stop yelling! Stop yelling! 1144 00:50:44,208 --> 00:50:45,918 Oh, my God. Oh, my God! 1145 00:50:46,001 --> 00:50:47,795 -You don't need to raise your voice. -Yes, I do. 1146 00:50:47,878 --> 00:50:49,046 -Talk regular. -Why can't you? 1147 00:50:49,129 --> 00:50:50,130 -I am. -Control yourself. 1148 00:50:50,256 --> 00:50:51,882 I'm not talking this loud! 1149 00:50:51,966 --> 00:50:53,425 -Yes, you are. -No, I'm not. 1150 00:50:53,509 --> 00:50:54,927 Stop talking and listen! 1151 00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:57,721 That is very... frustrating. 1152 00:50:57,805 --> 00:51:00,349 The one person that's supposed to be there for you screaming at me. 1153 00:51:00,432 --> 00:51:02,393 And I feel like I definitely don't wanna be here 1154 00:51:02,476 --> 00:51:03,686 and emotionally drained too. 1155 00:51:03,769 --> 00:51:05,020 So, like, I don't wanna hear it. 1156 00:51:05,437 --> 00:51:07,523 If you wanna just maybe be left alone. 1157 00:51:07,606 --> 00:51:09,233 -You're a child. Goddamn! -You are! 1158 00:51:09,316 --> 00:51:10,359 Goddamn! 1159 00:51:10,734 --> 00:51:12,236 ♪♪ 1160 00:51:16,907 --> 00:51:19,285 -I have a meeting lined up with Ford. -Are you serious? 1161 00:51:19,368 --> 00:51:20,744 -Layla, nice to meet you. -[crosstalk] 1162 00:51:20,828 --> 00:51:22,788 All us girls are getting such cool opportunities. 1163 00:51:22,871 --> 00:51:25,749 Like, I'm just excited that I get my chance now. 1164 00:51:27,001 --> 00:51:28,544 [Liann] We came all this way. 1165 00:51:28,627 --> 00:51:31,213 You wanna know who your biological dad is? 1166 00:51:31,297 --> 00:51:34,466 Taylor's dad and Dakota are very similar. 1167 00:51:34,550 --> 00:51:37,344 I chose not to go with him because of you. 1168 00:51:37,428 --> 00:51:38,887 [Jessi] Have you talked to Dakota lately? 1169 00:51:38,971 --> 00:51:40,347 [Jordan] He did tell me he's seeing somebody. 1170 00:51:40,431 --> 00:51:41,765 -Do I know her? -Yeah. 1171 00:51:41,849 --> 00:51:43,183 [Jessi] And he won't tell you who it is? 1172 00:51:43,934 --> 00:51:44,935 He's being weird about it. 1173 00:51:45,019 --> 00:51:46,937 We are 100% gonna get to the bottom of it. 1174 00:51:47,021 --> 00:51:48,355 -Who is it? -So, who is it? 1175 00:51:48,439 --> 00:51:50,899 -No, I'm not, I'm not gonna-- -Must be someone consequential then. 1176 00:51:50,983 --> 00:51:53,277 I've been playing a little bit with fire. 1177 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,737 Dakota, that's so bad. 1178 00:51:54,820 --> 00:51:55,904 [Miranda] I just wish if you were gonna do this, 1179 00:51:55,988 --> 00:51:57,990 you would've done a helluva lot better job at hiding it. 1180 00:51:58,073 --> 00:51:59,867 I mean, I probably was never gonna tell you. 1181 00:51:59,950 --> 00:52:01,410 MomTok really needs to rally right now. 1182 00:52:01,493 --> 00:52:02,494 I called you guys here 1183 00:52:02,578 --> 00:52:04,663 'cause there's something else he did, though, that's worse. 1184 00:52:04,747 --> 00:52:05,748 What is it? 1185 00:52:05,831 --> 00:52:07,625 But look, I'm so sorry. I really am. 1186 00:52:07,708 --> 00:52:09,793 [♪ dramatic music playing] 1187 00:52:09,877 --> 00:52:12,087 [sighs] My God, this is a mess. 1188 00:52:16,383 --> 00:52:17,801 [♪ upbeat music playing] 1189 00:52:17,885 --> 00:52:18,886 ♪ Are you ready? ♪ 1190 00:52:18,969 --> 00:52:21,347 ♪ I let it go, I let it go ♪ 1191 00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:23,098 ♪ I don't have time for any haters ♪ 1192 00:52:23,182 --> 00:52:24,308 ♪ Yeah, you know ♪ 1193 00:52:24,391 --> 00:52:27,227 ♪ Already know, already know ♪ 1194 00:52:27,311 --> 00:52:28,937 ♪ I don't have time for any haters ♪ 1195 00:52:29,021 --> 00:52:30,022 ♪ Yeah, you know ♪ 1196 00:52:30,105 --> 00:52:33,108 ♪♪ 1197 00:52:43,410 --> 00:52:45,037 [♪ music fades out] 98515

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