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♪ No, I don't want to lose ♪
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♪ You don't play a fair fight ♪
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♪ Now, I can't decide
if it's worth my time ♪
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♪ Betray me once ♪
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♪ I'll let you think you are ♪
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Did he sleep with someone?
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-If you wanna know, I will tell you.
-I do.
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-Right now.
-[Jessi] Yeah.
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He slept with someone
I'm sorry, he did.
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[♪ tense music playing]
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I'm sorry.
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-I know, I know, I know.
-It's not surprising.
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Like, he probably has fucked everyone.
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Dakota and I have been done
for a few months.
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But he still is, like, all about family,
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and wants a family, love, loves me,
his child, all these things.
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I wanted to be with him, and so for me,
it's very confusing.
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That's where
I think my frustration comes from.
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This is just like my sign.
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He is who he is.
He's never going to change.
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It's time to move on with my life.
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[Jordan] I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
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[Taylor] [crying] It's okay.
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[Jordan] I'm sorry, Taylor.
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[Jessi] I do feel a little bad
about telling Taylor right now
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because The Reunion's coming up
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and she could be extra emotional now.
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But to be honest, there's never
a good time to hear something like this.
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Taylor and Dakota's dynamic is so toxic.
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At this point, I'm not sure
if I made the right decision.
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I-- I don't know.
I-- I feel like my intentions were good
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because she wanted to know,
she was asking me,
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but now I'm wondering
if I just opened up a bigger can of worms.
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I'm so pissed. Not at him.
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-Just him as a person.
-I know.
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Fuck!
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[Taylor sniffles]
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And now he's having sex on TV.
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[Jessi] I know, I know.
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It's like, have you not done enough to me?
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-And I had to move on. I have to move on.
-You do.
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Like, I don't have a choice.
That's what sucks.
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Yeah. And I think
you're feeling resentful towards him
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for making you have to do that.
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[Taylor] I know we're, like, done.
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It's just, like, resurfacing feelings
of like--
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It's just reliving them,
the same betrayal I've lived for so long.
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It's like, anyone that's ever been
in this position knows
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it's like, you're mad at you
because you're allowing it.
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I'm-- Taylor's allowing it.
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I'm doing this to myself.
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Like, it's my responsibility
to let go and stop
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and I just, like, am having
a really hard time doing that.
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So, it's just like, I'm mad at me.
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-[Jessi] Taylor, stop.
-No, I just wanna know.
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-[line ringing]
-[Jessi] Taylor.
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-I just wanna know why.
-[Jessi] Know what?
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-Why.
-[Jessi] Why what?
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-If he enjoyed it.
-Taylor, you don't need to know that.
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[whispering]
You don't need to know that.
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[Taylor] Hello?
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[Dakota] [on speakerphone] Hello.
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I just wanna know
if you, like, enjoyed it.
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-[Dakota] Taylor--
-I'm freaking so sad
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because you made me do this,
and I didn't want it.
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And then, you go and have sex on TV.
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-[Dakota] No, I wanted--
-But you did have sex on TV.
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Don't say no, you did.
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[Dakota] I didn't enjoy it, Taylor.
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-Of course, I didn't.
-Oh, you didn't? You didn't finish?
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[Dakota] No.
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Did you finish? No? Did you finish?
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-[Dakota] Yeah.
-[Taylor] Okay. So you did enjoy it.
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[scoffs]
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-[Dakota] What do you mean?
-You enjoyed it, then.
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[Dakota] I can still have sex
and it not be enjoyable.
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Do you feel better?
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As if you didn't harm me enough,
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as if I didn't have to leave you already?
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[Dakota] If I didn't hurt you enough?
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Well, who was the one
that was always pushing me away? You!
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Was I ever pushing you away
the entire relationship?
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No, Taylor, never.
I never didn't want you.
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You made it impossible for me.
You made it impossible for me.
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I hate how toxic this situation is
for Taylor.
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It is ruining her day by day.
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And I am so hoping that The Bachelorette
is a really good detox for her
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to truly move on.
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[Dakota] Sorry, I moved on.
Like, what do you want from me?
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You moved on, you have another man
that you apparently love so much.
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[Taylor] I never said love.
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[Dakota] Yeah, 'cause you don't like him.
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Do you love the girl you fucked?
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[Dakota] Fuck, no!
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Do you even know her?
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[Dakota] I mean, no, not really.
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[chuckles]
So you just fucked some random hoe?
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-On TV?
-[Dakota] Yeah.
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[sniffles]
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Congrats. You win.
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[sniffles]
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♪ Come thee saints ♪
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♪ And come thee sinners ♪
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♪ Hallelujah ♪
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♪ Listen up ♪
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♪ I'm the one you've been dreaming of ♪
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♪ I've got everything
you could ever want ♪
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Shh.
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♪ Try me and you'll see
I'll bring you to your knees ♪
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♪ Baby, you're gonna believe ♪
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♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪
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♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪
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-♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪
-Shh.
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♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪
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♪ Temptation ♪
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[♪ intense music playing]
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[♪ upbeat music playing]
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[kids chattering]
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[Jen] Babe, spill the tea.
What happened at the villa?
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It was crazy. What do you wanna know?
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Who do you--
What do you wanna hear about first?
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-[Jen] Start from the beginning. Like--
-'Cause you actually don't know like
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-pretty much anything?
-No.
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-Tell me everything.
-[Zac] Okay.
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Zac has been back from the DadTok trip
for a couple of days,
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and to be honest, I've been so busy
with Dancing with the Stars,
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work, and taking care of the kids,
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I haven't even had time to talk to him
about what happened.
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All I know so far is that
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Zac talked to Marciano
more about what happened with Demi.
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I actually talked to Marciano
for like an hour
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and surprisingly, I trust him, personally,
more than I trust Demi
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based on my personal experience with her
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and how manipulative I think she is
as a human being.
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I'm dying to hear
more about what actually happened.
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One of my biggest takeaways
from the villa is that
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there is two sides to, like,
all these stories that are being told.
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Like, the first dinner, we all wore black,
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'cause we were like,
it's Marciano's funeral.
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Like, we were all planning on
just going HAM.
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And then, we-- we talked to him and he--
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Like, babe, he really was...
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not a good guy,
but, like, you could just tell,
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like, he does have some genuine remorse.
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He was just like, "No, like, I messed up.
I felt bad about this.
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"But, like, I don't know
how to handle the situation.
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This is what happened."
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He kissed Demi before he left.
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And then, he also said,
when they went up into the bathroom,
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they did more-- more than talking.
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♪♪
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Like, I talked to Hannah,
and Hannah's like,
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"Yeah,
when Marciano and Demi went outside,
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-like, they talked for six hours."
-[Jen] I know.
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I've always had a feeling
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that Demi was lying
about the whole Marciano situation.
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Even the kumbaya didn't seem
genuine to me.
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I never wanted to talk about this.
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That was the reason of me being
like, "Please, Jen, don't bring this up."
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I obviously wanna walk outta here
and be like, "Oh, I understand Demi."
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Like, "I can see her.
I wanna move forward."
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But to be honest,
I'm even more confused now.
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I think a lot of the girls are trying
to move past everything that happened.
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But to be honest,
I'm having a hard time looking past it
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because I don't think that
she should just get away
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with treating everyone like crap
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and then just pretend
like nothing happened.
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I kind of want to set the record straight.
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We'll see what happens at The Reunion.
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Thoughts and prayers. We're gonna need it.
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Like, I've been on Jordan's biased side.
I've been like, "Oh, Marciano."
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It wasn't until I talked to Marciano--
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Even after Jordan found out
about the affair,
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Jessi continued to talk to him.
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I think we've put
so much blame on Marciano--
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"Marciano this, Marciano that,
this horrible, evil guy."
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I'm like, it is just as much
Demi and Jessi, if not more,
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'cause they were the married ones,
Marciano's single.
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So, they're way more in fault
than-- than him, in my opinion.
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I don't know exactly what happened
between Marciano and Demi.
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I don't think anyone's ever gonna know.
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I think that the story
Bret and Demi are telling isn't true.
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The Reunion is coming up.
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If anyone does call out me or my wife,
I'm gonna be defensive.
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I guess we'll see how it goes.
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Sooner or later, everything
will come out, unfortunately,
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-so...
-[Zac] Yeah.
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But anyways, Dakota...
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somehow ended up hooking up
with a chick and...
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-[Jen] And he had sex with her.
-...and he had sex with her.
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Ugh. Oh, my gosh.
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[Zac] Next morning,
he seemed really happy.
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[Jen] 'Cause he was slapping cheeks!
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And now, hearing a little bit more
of what actually happened at the villa,
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especially with Dakota
and some of the girls there,
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I definitely think
Taylor is gonna lose her shiz.
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[laughs]
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Honestly, going there
and seeing the single life,
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it made me realize I would--
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Like-- Like, I honestly just felt bad
for Dakota and Chase.
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I'm like, "I would never wanna do this."
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-[kids crying]
-Instead, we'd rather do this.
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-I would rather do this.
-[kids wailing]
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Yeah. He's got the best of the best.
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[laughing]
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-[kids crying]
-[Jen laughing]
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♪ I wanna be with you ♪
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[church bell tolling]
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♪ I wanna be with you ♪
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-[train bell ringing]
-♪ All the time ♪
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♪ All the time ♪
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[both]
♪ La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la ♪
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♪ Goo, goo, goo, goo, goo, goo, goo ♪
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♪ Ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma ♪
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-♪ Ma, ma-- ♪
-Okay.
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♪ Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah ♪
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♪♪
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Whoa!
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-[Bret laughs]
-[Demi gasps]
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-It's legit.
-This is where the magic happens.
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Whoa! This is awesome.
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Babe, have you been
to something like this?
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I have.
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[crickets chirping]
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[David] Yeah. You guys ready
to rock and roll?
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-[Bret] We're ready.
-[Demi] I'm so ready.
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Maybe I have a new career in the works.
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[David] I have you on this mic here.
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Alright, can you guys hear me?
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-[Bret] Yes, sir.
-Alright.
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-We got the harmony?
-[Bret] I think so.
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-Okay.
-[Bret] We're about to find out.
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-Bring it in.
-About to find out. Good luck.
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[electronic metronome thumping]
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[♪ gentle music playing]
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♪ I see your true colors shining through ♪
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A little flat. Is it too high?
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[Bret] No. I got it.
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[Demi] Okay.
'Cause from what I'm hearing, it's not a--
240
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It's night and day
from what I heard in the car to now.
241
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So, I almost think you need
to take that off so you can hear.
242
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-Really?
-[Demi] Yeah.
243
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-Based on what I heard in...
-[David chuckling]
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[both] ♪ Call me up
'cause I will always be there ♪
245
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I think, just a little too intense.
246
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-Pull back a tiny bit.
-Okay.
247
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[both] ♪ Call me up-- ♪
248
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A little too breathy.
249
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I think that's what's making it flat.
250
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♪ Like a-- ♪
Ugh. Ah. Sigh. [babbles]
251
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Again. From the start, or just keep going?
252
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[David] Just keep it going.
253
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[both] ♪ True colors are beautiful ♪
254
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You need to, like,
bring it down here a little bit more.
255
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[Bret] ♪ And I see your... ♪
256
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[both] ♪ True colors shining through ♪
257
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[Bret] ♪ I see your... ♪
258
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[both] ♪ True colors ♪
259
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♪ And that's why I love you ♪
260
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[Demi] ♪ True colors are... ♪
261
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[both] ♪ Beautiful ♪
262
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[Bret] ♪ Like a rainbow ♪
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[both] ♪ Oo h ♪
264
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[David] I loved it.
265
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I think we got
some good takes here, I mean...
266
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That's a wrap.
267
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-Thank you so much.
-Good. Yeah, you guys are great.
268
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-This was fun.
-Yeah, that was so fun.
269
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-[Bret] Yeah. Thank you.
-So fun.
270
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-Thank you. So good to meet you.
-Thank you, appreciate it.
271
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-Alright. You guys have a good one.
-You too. Bye.
272
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You need to be doing that more.
273
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I wanna do that more.
That was so, like, liberating
274
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and just felt like,
"Ah, this is what I need to be doing."
275
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How are you feeling about The Reunion?
276
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I'm excited to... defend you
from all this absolute bullshit.
277
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I'm so sick of... the lies.
278
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I'm sick of the posturing.
279
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They've locked in on the opinion
of something happened
280
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or what Marciano said is true.
281
00:12:22,825 --> 00:12:26,871
So, Zac FaceTimed Jen
while he was in the villa...
282
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-Yeah.
-...and they had conversations
283
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with Marci-fu-fu-poo-poo-butt-face.
284
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He said that
more happened between him and Demi.
285
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He said that
there was more than kissing now?
286
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So, it just keeps going up.
287
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Zac believed it before he even went.
So that's not shocking.
288
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You wanna choose to believe somebody
who is a well-documented liar
289
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versus somebody
who has always told the truth?
290
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♪♪
291
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I want nothing to do with this.
So, Jen, why are you still lying about me?
292
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Why are you going on podcasts
saying that I sat on Marciano's lap
293
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and that I kissed him in the villa?
294
00:13:01,739 --> 00:13:03,992
This is so crazy.
295
00:13:04,075 --> 00:13:07,161
So, Jen and Zac
were on The Viall Files podcast
296
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and they were asked about what went down
between Demi and Marciano.
297
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I was asking her about
how the trip is going
298
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and you called me and was like,
"Yeah, Demi has just been crying
299
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"in her room for the last hour.
She's so-- She feels so bad.
300
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She feels like
she's cheated on her husband."
301
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-Yes.
-"Well, why?"
302
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"Well, 'cause she was sitting on his lap,
she was kissing him."
303
00:13:23,303 --> 00:13:25,513
All these things
that were never shown in the edit.
304
00:13:25,596 --> 00:13:27,390
I mean, you have a group of people
305
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that are constantly trying
to poke holes in your story
306
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and lie about you.
307
00:13:31,894 --> 00:13:33,563
I used to feel bad for Zac,
308
00:13:33,646 --> 00:13:38,192
and now that I have seen him
repeatedly enable Jen,
309
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I feel like he knows better.
310
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A lot of people in the group
will try to make excuses for her
311
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like, "Oh, she's just like
saying things-- these things,
312
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and she thinks they're true."
313
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Well, that's called defamation.
314
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That can really heavily ruin
someone's reputation.
315
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It's not okay!
316
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♪ Kiss me on the Eiffel Tower ♪
317
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-♪ I like money, make it shower ♪
-[baby fussing]
318
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♪ Yeah, make it shower ♪
319
00:14:05,386 --> 00:14:07,305
Gotta do the signing?
How many signatures you have to do?
320
00:14:07,388 --> 00:14:09,724
Oh, yeah, that's, like, due this week.
I keep forgetting to do it.
321
00:14:09,807 --> 00:14:12,268
It's been sitting there for,
like, literally six months, I think.
322
00:14:12,352 --> 00:14:14,479
We have been so busy lately
323
00:14:14,562 --> 00:14:16,773
between having a newborn,
and two other kids,
324
00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:19,442
running Babymama,
coordinating things for the book tour.
325
00:14:19,525 --> 00:14:20,526
Having the memoir come out,
326
00:14:20,610 --> 00:14:23,237
this has just been a huge goal of mine
for the last 10 years,
327
00:14:23,321 --> 00:14:25,239
and I just can't believe
it's actually happening.
328
00:14:25,323 --> 00:14:26,991
Maybe I'll do that. Like that?
329
00:14:27,075 --> 00:14:29,535
That's very, like, bank signature-esque.
330
00:14:29,619 --> 00:14:31,496
What? Now, I did three E's on accident.
331
00:14:31,579 --> 00:14:32,789
-See, I'm not used...
-Can't do that.
332
00:14:32,872 --> 00:14:33,873
...to writing your last name.
333
00:14:33,956 --> 00:14:34,999
Can't do that.
334
00:14:35,083 --> 00:14:38,086
I'm getting some comments from the boys
on my posts about you.
335
00:14:38,169 --> 00:14:40,213
-The boys.
-Making me question things a little bit.
336
00:14:40,296 --> 00:14:42,590
-Yeah, I know, just making jokes.
-They're talking about "London Jacob."
337
00:14:43,341 --> 00:14:44,342
What does that mean?
338
00:14:45,968 --> 00:14:47,929
-[Jacob] [chuckling] "London Jacob."
-[Mayci] Better watch yourself.
339
00:14:50,598 --> 00:14:52,558
-Just remember who rules.
-[Jacob] I'm on the DadTok train.
340
00:14:52,642 --> 00:14:54,018
Just remember who rules this house.
341
00:14:54,102 --> 00:14:55,770
[laughing] Are you serious?
342
00:14:56,479 --> 00:14:58,064
Alright, well,
two can play at that game.
343
00:14:58,147 --> 00:14:59,482
-[Mayci] Can they?
-[Jacob] Yep.
344
00:15:01,359 --> 00:15:02,860
Yeah, there we go. How's that?
345
00:15:03,361 --> 00:15:05,905
Fuck off. You're giving me the ick
'cause it reminds me of Jordan.
346
00:15:06,572 --> 00:15:08,574
-I feel like I'm like--
-[laughing] Why are you--
347
00:15:08,658 --> 00:15:10,535
-Are you serious?
-I'm like, "Do you have a different font?"
348
00:15:10,618 --> 00:15:12,036
'Cause he wears that one too much.
349
00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,790
Jordan is Jordan, but this DadTok hat
does look pretty good on me though.
350
00:15:16,290 --> 00:15:20,002
Jacob has been a little more spicy
since he got home from London.
351
00:15:20,086 --> 00:15:24,048
And I will say, I am a little annoyed
that Jacob waited to tell me things.
352
00:15:24,132 --> 00:15:25,633
Jordan told Jessi everything right away
353
00:15:25,716 --> 00:15:28,594
and I was like, there is no bro code
when you are married.
354
00:15:28,678 --> 00:15:30,763
I'm happy
that he is making new friendships,
355
00:15:30,847 --> 00:15:33,641
but I don't know
if DadTok has the right friendships.
356
00:15:33,975 --> 00:15:36,018
[Jacob] I was surprised that,
like, I got along with Chase so much
357
00:15:36,519 --> 00:15:37,520
when we were out there.
358
00:15:37,895 --> 00:15:39,355
-But he's a funny dude.
-I'm surprised too.
359
00:15:39,439 --> 00:15:42,024
-He's witty, you know, he's like--
-Like a typical fuck boy?
360
00:15:42,525 --> 00:15:43,776
-Yeah.
-Yeah.
361
00:15:43,860 --> 00:15:46,487
-Lighthearted conver--
-You really hated him like two weeks ago.
362
00:15:46,988 --> 00:15:48,072
No, I know.
363
00:15:48,156 --> 00:15:49,615
We just got back from London
364
00:15:49,699 --> 00:15:52,368
and I'm honestly surprised that
I had such a good time with all the guys.
365
00:15:52,452 --> 00:15:55,288
It's kinda making me realize that
I think I need some more bro time.
366
00:15:55,371 --> 00:15:57,081
I don't know how
Mayci's gonna like this though.
367
00:15:57,165 --> 00:15:58,708
She thinks Chase is just a piece of shit.
368
00:15:58,791 --> 00:16:00,126
And now that we're all hanging out,
369
00:16:00,209 --> 00:16:01,836
I really wanna make sure that
they can kinda get past this,
370
00:16:01,919 --> 00:16:03,087
and I-- I hope they can.
371
00:16:03,171 --> 00:16:05,089
How do you feel about, like,
me being around Chase right now?
372
00:16:05,173 --> 00:16:06,382
Like, you have a good reputation,
373
00:16:06,466 --> 00:16:09,510
and I feel like it's gonna be tainted
by hanging out with toxic men.
374
00:16:10,428 --> 00:16:11,679
[♪ upbeat music playing]
375
00:16:11,762 --> 00:16:13,139
[kids chattering]
376
00:16:14,265 --> 00:16:16,017
[Chase] Yeah, hey-- hey, Brooks.
That's a lot, dude!
377
00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:18,269
-[Miranda] Yeah, let's take a chill pill.
-[Layla] You better slow him down.
378
00:16:18,352 --> 00:16:19,687
[Chase] I wanna see him try and walk now.
379
00:16:19,770 --> 00:16:21,564
[Miranda] That's like me
and my experience with MomTok.
380
00:16:21,647 --> 00:16:23,357
[Chase] Come here, bro. Whoa!
381
00:16:23,441 --> 00:16:24,692
[laughing] He's actually had-- Oh.
382
00:16:24,775 --> 00:16:26,986
-[Layla] Was that you in the villa? Chase!
-[Miranda] Is that Chase in the villa?
383
00:16:27,069 --> 00:16:28,988
Maybe don't put
your face on the bark, bud.
384
00:16:29,071 --> 00:16:30,531
[Mason] "I was spinning too fast."
385
00:16:31,032 --> 00:16:33,659
It's no secret that Chase has caused...
386
00:16:34,285 --> 00:16:38,206
a lot of drama with the women in MomTok
in the past.
387
00:16:38,289 --> 00:16:40,750
I try to stay out of most of Chase's drama
388
00:16:40,833 --> 00:16:43,377
because I value
our co-parenting relationship.
389
00:16:43,461 --> 00:16:49,133
But right now, with Chase being in DadTok,
if he starts acting up...
390
00:16:49,217 --> 00:16:50,301
[slicing sound]
391
00:16:50,384 --> 00:16:52,637
At the villa, I was bringing up the fact
392
00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,890
that Mayci
obviously has her qualms with me.
393
00:16:55,973 --> 00:16:58,434
Walk into your birthday party
and she throws a fit to you.
394
00:16:58,518 --> 00:17:00,102
Not expecting, you know,
395
00:17:00,186 --> 00:17:02,396
our favorite person
to walk in the door today.
396
00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,690
[Layla]
I feel like if I'm good with him though...
397
00:17:04,774 --> 00:17:05,942
No, I'm fucking pissed.
398
00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,154
[sighs] I've wanted to potentially have
a conversation with Mayci at some point
399
00:17:10,571 --> 00:17:11,906
because I love DadTok
400
00:17:11,989 --> 00:17:14,450
and I'm on good terms
with pretty much all those dudes.
401
00:17:14,534 --> 00:17:16,744
I wanna just bury the hatchet
with these girls
402
00:17:16,827 --> 00:17:19,789
if they will allow for it,
but, I mean, who knows?
403
00:17:19,872 --> 00:17:22,959
I asked Jacob,
and he said, "Well, I heard that, uh--
404
00:17:23,042 --> 00:17:24,961
"She told me that after,
you know, all the things that--
405
00:17:25,044 --> 00:17:27,004
"that stuff came out
with Taylor on the TikTok live
406
00:17:27,088 --> 00:17:28,965
that you had been
hitting her up in her DM's."
407
00:17:29,048 --> 00:17:30,883
-Oh.
-And I was like, "Hold on."
408
00:17:30,967 --> 00:17:31,968
And I pulled up our DM's,
409
00:17:32,051 --> 00:17:36,180
and I said, "Dude, this is Mayci
responding to my stories three years ago
410
00:17:36,264 --> 00:17:37,682
"and saying we should all hang out.
411
00:17:37,765 --> 00:17:40,226
You should go play ball with Jacob.
He needs more friends."
412
00:17:40,309 --> 00:17:41,769
So, rewind three years ago...
413
00:17:41,852 --> 00:17:45,231
-[tape whirring]
-...I remember hearing from Miranda,
414
00:17:45,314 --> 00:17:48,609
Mayci told someone that,
like, I was always in Mayci's DM's.
415
00:17:48,693 --> 00:17:51,070
And Miranda asked me like,
"Were you in her DM's?"
416
00:17:51,153 --> 00:17:54,490
And I was like, "No.
Ma-- Mayci was in my DM's."
417
00:17:54,574 --> 00:17:57,868
I think I responded to one
of Chase's stories of his daughter.
418
00:17:57,952 --> 00:18:00,538
It was just his daughter.
He was not in it. Let's be clear.
419
00:18:00,621 --> 00:18:01,831
And I think it was like an emoji,
420
00:18:01,914 --> 00:18:04,250
like a heart eye emoji of his daughter
or something.
421
00:18:04,333 --> 00:18:06,627
Whatever. Wasn't about you, you freak.
422
00:18:06,711 --> 00:18:08,462
I remember, one weekend,
423
00:18:08,546 --> 00:18:12,341
Taylor's ex-husband, Tate, had booked
a cabin for like 30 people.
424
00:18:13,092 --> 00:18:15,803
So, I knew that Mayci and Jacob were
interested in potentially hanging out,
425
00:18:15,886 --> 00:18:16,887
so I invited 'em.
426
00:18:16,971 --> 00:18:18,806
I told them there was gonna be alcohol,
427
00:18:18,889 --> 00:18:21,726
didn't know if they were comfortable
with that, so they didn't have to come.
428
00:18:21,809 --> 00:18:24,103
I said, "Okay, what, so fun!!
I'll see if we can--"
429
00:18:24,937 --> 00:18:26,731
I'm dead. [laughs]
430
00:18:26,814 --> 00:18:30,985
I said, "Okay, what so fun!!
I'll see if we can swing it--"
431
00:18:32,486 --> 00:18:34,196
Did I give the wrong impression
right away?
432
00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,907
Is that why this is coming up
years later? [laughs]
433
00:18:36,991 --> 00:18:38,618
They, like, twisted things
434
00:18:38,701 --> 00:18:40,161
because they heard
a certain narrative about us.
435
00:18:40,661 --> 00:18:44,665
And I think she took it as
we were like putting feelers out...
436
00:18:44,749 --> 00:18:46,167
-[Chase] To swing?
-...to swing.
437
00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:49,045
Yeah, and then once we,
like, knew that they weren't down,
438
00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:51,005
they-- I uninvited them.
439
00:18:51,088 --> 00:18:56,844
So, from what I know,
the whole cabin saga was--
440
00:18:56,927 --> 00:18:59,096
Taylor said that
it made her kind of uncomfy
441
00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:01,849
that Mayci and Jacob didn't drink.
442
00:19:01,932 --> 00:19:04,935
And I think Mayci took it as like,
"Oh, I'm being uninvited
443
00:19:05,019 --> 00:19:07,480
because they are getting the vibe
that we're not swingers."
444
00:19:07,563 --> 00:19:08,981
That was not the case.
445
00:19:09,065 --> 00:19:12,026
Mayci also, like, can sniff out toxic men.
So, regardless of--
446
00:19:12,109 --> 00:19:13,986
Mayci thinks every man's toxic and--
447
00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:15,237
-I agree, actually.
-She's not wrong.
448
00:19:15,321 --> 00:19:16,739
That's the one thing
I have to agree with.
449
00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:19,992
I do think we should go
to lunch something with Chase...
450
00:19:20,076 --> 00:19:21,994
-[Mayci] Ugh.
-...and have a conversation and just--
451
00:19:22,078 --> 00:19:24,372
-I don't wanna have a conversation.
-See if we can improve just what we know.
452
00:19:24,455 --> 00:19:27,083
I don't wanna have
a conversation with him. I'm good.
453
00:19:27,166 --> 00:19:29,543
I am shocked to see Jacob
come back from the villa
454
00:19:29,627 --> 00:19:30,961
being, like, friends with Chase.
455
00:19:31,045 --> 00:19:33,714
It is no secret that I don't like Chase.
456
00:19:33,798 --> 00:19:35,591
I think that he's very demeaning to women.
457
00:19:35,675 --> 00:19:38,928
I think that he was very demeaning
and disrespectful to my friends
458
00:19:39,011 --> 00:19:40,179
and to me online.
459
00:19:40,262 --> 00:19:43,182
And for that, I just don't care for him.
Why-- Why do we need him around?
460
00:19:43,265 --> 00:19:45,309
He's not married to Miranda anymore.
So why are you here?
461
00:19:45,393 --> 00:19:48,020
I'm freshly postpartum.
I don't have time for this shit.
462
00:19:48,104 --> 00:19:49,814
[Jacob]
I feel you should be supportive and--
463
00:19:49,897 --> 00:19:53,609
It doesn't mean like you have to, like,
deny that or like not think it's reality.
464
00:19:53,693 --> 00:19:56,779
Well, I'll think very, very hard about it.
465
00:19:57,196 --> 00:19:58,197
Okay.
466
00:20:01,492 --> 00:20:04,662
♪ Stay focused right now ♪
467
00:20:05,162 --> 00:20:10,042
♪ Don't you allow them to break you down ♪
468
00:20:10,626 --> 00:20:12,128
♪ Stay focused... ♪
469
00:20:12,211 --> 00:20:14,422
-[receptionist] Hi!
-[Taylor] Hello, how are you?
470
00:20:14,505 --> 00:20:16,173
-[receptionist] Hello!
-[nurse] This is Taylor.
471
00:20:17,091 --> 00:20:20,094
I'm having a breast augmentation
done again.
472
00:20:20,177 --> 00:20:23,597
I had it a few years back,
but I will say, just having a baby,
473
00:20:23,681 --> 00:20:26,517
some things, I was like,
"Mm, unsure of really up here."
474
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,602
So I'm like, let's just go get a little...
475
00:20:28,686 --> 00:20:30,146
let's say, touch up, if you will.
476
00:20:30,896 --> 00:20:33,941
[doctor] Alright. Let's do it, people.
477
00:20:34,859 --> 00:20:36,902
I'm doing it, one,
to feel good about myself
478
00:20:36,986 --> 00:20:39,196
but, two, for The Bachelorette.
479
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,656
I think I'm about to be
in a lot of dresses,
480
00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:43,200
which I normally, if you know me,
I'm not in dresses.
481
00:20:43,284 --> 00:20:44,994
So, I just kinda wanna feel good in 'em.
482
00:20:45,578 --> 00:20:47,997
[doctor] Pocket looks good.
Very thin capsule.
483
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,415
♪ Yeah, we make it go bum, bum, bum ♪
484
00:20:49,498 --> 00:20:51,500
Like, it's very subtle, so we're gonna--
485
00:20:51,584 --> 00:20:52,668
That's why we're converting her.
486
00:20:52,752 --> 00:20:54,837
So, we gotta find her pec muscle here.
487
00:20:55,838 --> 00:20:58,632
It's just pretty much--
I don't even pull it. I just lay it.
488
00:20:58,841 --> 00:20:59,842
Look at that.
489
00:21:00,176 --> 00:21:01,177
Good job, team.
490
00:21:02,595 --> 00:21:04,972
♪ Yeah, we make it go bum, bum, bum ♪
491
00:21:05,055 --> 00:21:07,516
[monitor beeping]
492
00:21:09,518 --> 00:21:10,728
♪♪
493
00:21:10,811 --> 00:21:12,646
[Taylor crying]
494
00:21:12,730 --> 00:21:14,190
-Hi, Tay!
-Hi, Mom.
495
00:21:14,273 --> 00:21:16,233
-Oh, my gosh! Are you okay?
-[nurse] Hello.
496
00:21:16,317 --> 00:21:19,153
Yeah. I think I'm good. [cries]
497
00:21:19,236 --> 00:21:21,405
Are you-- Oh, what's wrong?
498
00:21:21,489 --> 00:21:22,656
[nurse] She just needs--
499
00:21:22,740 --> 00:21:25,117
-She just needs Mama hugs. Here.
-It's okay. She's okay? Aw.
500
00:21:25,743 --> 00:21:27,328
What's wrong? Are you okay?
501
00:21:27,411 --> 00:21:29,246
Yeah, I'm just, like, sad.
502
00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:30,539
[Liann] Why?
503
00:21:30,623 --> 00:21:32,875
[nurse]
All the anesthesia meds just kind of...
504
00:21:32,958 --> 00:21:35,336
-No, this is just my freaking life.
-...make us cry.
505
00:21:35,419 --> 00:21:38,464
-Do you need me to do anything?
-No, it's just like my life situation.
506
00:21:38,547 --> 00:21:41,634
It freaking sucks.
Like, with family, you know?
507
00:21:41,717 --> 00:21:43,260
[crying]
508
00:21:43,344 --> 00:21:46,013
[Liann] I know, Taylor,
but it's getting so much better.
509
00:21:46,096 --> 00:21:49,225
-And I think I ignore it a lot...
-[nurse] Yeah.
510
00:21:49,850 --> 00:21:51,477
[Taylor] ...like how painful it is.
511
00:21:52,895 --> 00:21:54,855
I think you've come a long way.
512
00:21:54,939 --> 00:21:56,482
And I think that it's getting better.
513
00:21:57,191 --> 00:21:59,527
[Taylor] My heart hurts. Like, my heart.
514
00:22:00,027 --> 00:22:02,488
-Emotionally broken.
-[Liann] It's broken? Aw.
515
00:22:02,571 --> 00:22:03,572
[Taylor] Mm-hmm.
516
00:22:03,656 --> 00:22:05,533
He never loved me ever.
517
00:22:06,534 --> 00:22:07,910
I don't care what anyone says.
518
00:22:07,993 --> 00:22:10,162
I'm in more of an acceptance phase.
519
00:22:10,246 --> 00:22:13,374
But maybe this is just
like obviously a little deeper rooted.
520
00:22:13,457 --> 00:22:15,042
[Liann] Well, of course it's hard.
521
00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:18,045
You thought you were gonna
probably end up with Dakota.
522
00:22:18,128 --> 00:22:19,338
That's the sad thing.
523
00:22:20,089 --> 00:22:21,799
You're gonna be okay, Taylor.
524
00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:25,511
I know.
525
00:22:27,972 --> 00:22:30,975
[♪ upbeat music playing]
526
00:22:42,486 --> 00:22:44,446
Ahhh.
527
00:22:44,530 --> 00:22:47,449
-[sighs] Nothing like Vitamin D...
-Oasis. Yes.
528
00:22:47,533 --> 00:22:49,451
...to cure that postpartum depression.
529
00:22:50,286 --> 00:22:52,079
Oh, my gosh, I love it here.
530
00:22:52,162 --> 00:22:56,500
We're still a few weeks away
from Dancing with the Stars premiere.
531
00:22:56,584 --> 00:22:59,545
We're doing like five hours
of dancing a day
532
00:22:59,628 --> 00:23:02,047
and it's already super intense.
533
00:23:02,131 --> 00:23:03,549
There's nothing like California.
534
00:23:03,632 --> 00:23:05,342
-It's nice.
-[Jen] Yeah, it is nice.
535
00:23:05,426 --> 00:23:07,094
Something's in this air. I'm like, "Whew!"
536
00:23:07,177 --> 00:23:08,762
There really is something in this air!
537
00:23:08,846 --> 00:23:13,017
I've definitely been trying
to rebuild my friendship with Whitney
538
00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:17,021
and look past everything that's happened
539
00:23:17,104 --> 00:23:19,315
and make this a good experience
for both of us.
540
00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:23,277
So, do you think
you'll stay here for a while
541
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:25,279
regardless of Dancing with the Stars?
542
00:23:25,362 --> 00:23:26,697
-Like, if I get voted off?
-Yeah.
543
00:23:26,780 --> 00:23:28,908
Yeah. I mean,
I don't have plans on getting voted off.
544
00:23:28,991 --> 00:23:29,992
[both laughing]
545
00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:31,535
-But if I do...
-Yeah.
546
00:23:31,619 --> 00:23:33,329
[Whitney]
...um, we're just gonna stay here.
547
00:23:33,412 --> 00:23:35,205
[Jen] Are you nervous about The Reunion?
548
00:23:35,289 --> 00:23:36,790
Do you think Demi's gonna be cordial?
549
00:23:36,874 --> 00:23:38,834
Because I think she's draining everyone.
550
00:23:38,918 --> 00:23:41,837
I think she will.
I think she wants to make things right.
551
00:23:42,338 --> 00:23:47,092
Does she? I think it's very interesting
that she's reached out to everyone but me.
552
00:23:47,176 --> 00:23:50,846
She's going to lunch with Jessi.
She's reached out to Mayci and Mikayla.
553
00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:53,641
And I'm the only one
she hasn't reached out to.
554
00:23:53,724 --> 00:23:55,976
-Which, in my opinion--
-Do you want-- Do you want her to?
555
00:23:56,060 --> 00:23:58,270
I just would appreciate a genuine apology,
556
00:23:58,354 --> 00:24:00,314
and I don't feel like
I've gotten that from her.
557
00:24:00,397 --> 00:24:02,024
[Whitney sighs]
558
00:24:02,107 --> 00:24:05,361
I hate that there's this animosity
between the two of you.
559
00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:06,612
-[Jen] Mm-hmm.
-[Whitney] And...
560
00:24:06,695 --> 00:24:08,030
I know she hates my guts.
561
00:24:08,113 --> 00:24:10,282
-I don't think she hates your guts.
-[Jen] I think she's always hated me.
562
00:24:10,366 --> 00:24:12,201
-[Whitney] I know--
-Literally, from day one,
563
00:24:12,284 --> 00:24:14,078
"Jen's too Mormon for me."
564
00:24:14,161 --> 00:24:16,246
Like, "If she's there,
I don't wanna be there."
565
00:24:16,413 --> 00:24:19,625
"Demi, did you ever say
that Jen is too Mormon?"
566
00:24:19,708 --> 00:24:22,586
[Demi] I've never said she's too Mormon.
567
00:24:22,670 --> 00:24:26,173
I have said that
you bring it up in conversation a lot.
568
00:24:26,256 --> 00:24:28,968
Did I say that Jen is too Mormon?
569
00:24:29,051 --> 00:24:31,595
I did. And I stand by that.
570
00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:34,014
-From day one. Yeah.
-Listen, Jen, I get that.
571
00:24:34,098 --> 00:24:35,933
But there has to be a point
where we move on.
572
00:24:36,266 --> 00:24:39,269
I think that you guys are--
Both can be right.
573
00:24:39,687 --> 00:24:41,230
And I think that's the problem.
574
00:24:41,313 --> 00:24:43,107
-[Jen] Mm-hmm.
-Is both of your feelings are valid.
575
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:44,775
-But the problem is, is like you--
-I stand by that.
576
00:24:44,858 --> 00:24:46,485
-[Whitney] It's accepting it.
-Yeah.
577
00:24:46,568 --> 00:24:48,779
It's like you guys both can't accept that.
578
00:24:49,113 --> 00:24:52,491
Jen, you accepted that apology
at the kumbaya.
579
00:24:52,574 --> 00:24:54,660
You said that you were gonna work
on moving on.
580
00:24:54,743 --> 00:24:59,289
And bringing it up again is just gonna
put MomTok a whole step back.
581
00:24:59,373 --> 00:25:01,166
So, I'm starting to feel
a little bit worried
582
00:25:01,250 --> 00:25:03,210
about what's gonna happen at The Reunion.
583
00:25:04,128 --> 00:25:06,588
-I trust vibes over words.
-[Whitney] Yeah.
584
00:25:06,672 --> 00:25:11,802
And there has never been
a feeling of true sincerity on her end.
585
00:25:11,885 --> 00:25:12,928
I've never felt that.
586
00:25:13,012 --> 00:25:18,559
I also think that so much has happened
in MomTok the past few years.
587
00:25:18,642 --> 00:25:20,769
I just want it
to be a safe place for everyone.
588
00:25:20,853 --> 00:25:23,105
And to be honest,
I don't feel like it's a safe place for me
589
00:25:23,188 --> 00:25:24,189
when Demi is there.
590
00:25:24,273 --> 00:25:26,817
♪♪
591
00:25:31,488 --> 00:25:33,157
♪♪
592
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,950
♪ I thought I knew you ♪
593
00:25:35,034 --> 00:25:36,618
♪ I looked the other way ♪
594
00:25:36,702 --> 00:25:38,370
♪ Couldn't see the truth ♪
595
00:25:38,704 --> 00:25:40,330
♪ Couldn't see your mistake ♪
596
00:25:40,414 --> 00:25:41,915
♪ Why should I keep... ♪
597
00:25:42,332 --> 00:25:43,375
Thank you so much.
598
00:25:45,961 --> 00:25:47,504
We gonna get wasted?
599
00:25:47,588 --> 00:25:49,173
Ooh! Day drinking.
600
00:25:49,882 --> 00:25:52,009
-[gasps] Hello!
-[Miranda] Hello!
601
00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:54,636
[Jen] What's up, guys?
602
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,430
[overlapping greetings]
603
00:25:56,513 --> 00:25:58,182
-Did you miss me?
-[Jessi] Yes.
604
00:25:58,766 --> 00:26:01,226
-How's everything been going?
-It's been great.
605
00:26:01,685 --> 00:26:03,020
[Jessi] The Reunion's coming up,
606
00:26:03,103 --> 00:26:05,230
and I genuinely don't know
what's gonna happen.
607
00:26:05,314 --> 00:26:07,816
And I feel like I need to talk
to the girls about Demi.
608
00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:10,736
She's not being the same person
off camera that she is on.
609
00:26:10,819 --> 00:26:14,198
So, if they feel that energy from her,
hopefully they'll speak up.
610
00:26:14,281 --> 00:26:16,075
Are you guys nervous for The Reunion?
611
00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:17,868
-No.
-[Jen] Really?
612
00:26:17,951 --> 00:26:20,704
I just feel like reunions always
inevitably bring things up.
613
00:26:20,788 --> 00:26:21,789
They definitely stir shit up.
614
00:26:21,872 --> 00:26:23,290
I bet you are,
'cause, like, Demi and stuff.
615
00:26:23,373 --> 00:26:24,875
[Jessi] Yeah, I'm a little nervous.
616
00:26:24,958 --> 00:26:27,920
I'm more so nervous now because,
um, we did a session with Gabi
617
00:26:28,504 --> 00:26:29,838
and it was the weirdest thing, you guys.
618
00:26:29,922 --> 00:26:31,757
Off-camera,
we'd had discussions about, like--
619
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,843
She kind of admitted that she leaned
into the Marciano stuff too much,
620
00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:36,887
it looked really bad,
and she shouldn't have done it.
621
00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:38,680
Wait, wait, wait, wait. She admitted?
622
00:26:38,764 --> 00:26:40,015
[Jessi] Kinda like she did in Italy,
623
00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:41,809
when she was like,
"I played into it too much,"
624
00:26:41,892 --> 00:26:43,602
because on-camera, she doubles down, but,
625
00:26:43,685 --> 00:26:45,395
-behind the scenes, she did admit that.
-Right. Right.
626
00:26:45,479 --> 00:26:46,647
So, we finally get to a place
627
00:26:46,730 --> 00:26:49,191
where we do start talking
about the Marciano of it all
628
00:26:49,274 --> 00:26:51,443
and she, like,
completely plays victim again.
629
00:26:52,903 --> 00:26:56,448
And is like, "He did this and this,"
and I'm like, "Okay."
630
00:26:56,532 --> 00:26:58,617
Like, it's just so different from, like,
the conversations
631
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:00,285
-we had with her off-camera.
-Yeah.
632
00:27:00,369 --> 00:27:02,996
-So Gabi has read Demi alone before.
-[Miranda] Right.
633
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,749
And she has picked up
on patterns Demi has in her past.
634
00:27:05,833 --> 00:27:08,710
So, she looks at Demi, and she's like,
"Demi, there's patterns you have
635
00:27:08,794 --> 00:27:10,462
and I'm trying
to help you out of those patterns."
636
00:27:10,546 --> 00:27:12,256
And Demi was like, "What patterns?"
637
00:27:12,339 --> 00:27:14,216
So, she was like, "You know,
the stuff we've talked about,"
638
00:27:14,299 --> 00:27:15,926
and Demi's like,
"Like what? You can say it."
639
00:27:16,009 --> 00:27:18,345
And so, Gabi finally goes,
"Your emotional cheating."
640
00:27:18,846 --> 00:27:20,264
This Marciano thing?
641
00:27:20,347 --> 00:27:23,392
The pattern that I'm feeling,
may be emotional cheating.
642
00:27:24,226 --> 00:27:26,145
And-- And Demi goes,
"Oh, yeah, you're right."
643
00:27:26,228 --> 00:27:28,689
[♪ dramatic music playing]
644
00:27:28,772 --> 00:27:30,732
And she goes,
"I have had a past of emotional cheating."
645
00:27:30,816 --> 00:27:32,526
There's been
multiple situations in the past
646
00:27:32,609 --> 00:27:35,195
where it was that, like,
I felt like I was developing feelings...
647
00:27:36,905 --> 00:27:38,073
"But not with Marciano.
648
00:27:38,157 --> 00:27:39,783
-Everyone else but him."
-[laughter]
649
00:27:39,867 --> 00:27:41,702
In this situation, it was not that.
650
00:27:41,785 --> 00:27:43,704
I wasn't even physically attracted to him.
651
00:27:44,121 --> 00:27:47,958
-[Jessi] And I'm like, "We were so close."
-We were so close!
652
00:27:48,625 --> 00:27:52,045
Demi's very good at manipulating.
653
00:27:52,129 --> 00:27:54,381
She's very good at talking.
654
00:27:54,464 --> 00:27:56,175
But I was the pathological liar.
655
00:27:56,258 --> 00:27:57,509
Exactly!
656
00:27:57,593 --> 00:27:59,344
But that's what they do, right?
657
00:27:59,428 --> 00:28:04,057
But after the guys going on the trip
to London
658
00:28:04,141 --> 00:28:06,685
and now, hearing this from Jessi
659
00:28:06,768 --> 00:28:08,729
just shows that I've been right
this whole time.
660
00:28:08,812 --> 00:28:11,064
I think it's because, like, he's so gross
that she, like, doesn't--
661
00:28:11,148 --> 00:28:12,524
-Her ego can't handle it.
-Yeah.
662
00:28:12,608 --> 00:28:13,901
It's like, but you did that.
663
00:28:14,318 --> 00:28:18,030
It was just so disingenuine
from, like, the Demi I had seen
664
00:28:18,113 --> 00:28:20,699
trying to mend all these fences
and, like, get back.
665
00:28:20,782 --> 00:28:22,117
'Cause it's not genuine. That's the thing.
666
00:28:22,201 --> 00:28:25,078
She mends it for her... own agenda.
667
00:28:25,162 --> 00:28:26,496
-It was just to save her image.
-[Jessi] Yeah.
668
00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:28,373
She doesn't care
about the relationships here.
669
00:28:29,124 --> 00:28:32,628
I feel like Jessi was trying
to give Demi grace in this situation
670
00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:34,338
and kind of give her a second chance.
671
00:28:34,421 --> 00:28:37,174
And yet again, Demi's proving
that she can't be trusted
672
00:28:37,257 --> 00:28:39,635
and you can't believe a single thing
that comes out of her mouth.
673
00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:43,805
The crazy part is, to me, is that
I'm like, if you would just be authentic
674
00:28:43,889 --> 00:28:46,892
to what actually happened,
like, the mistakes you've actually made...
675
00:28:46,975 --> 00:28:49,061
-[Jessi] Yes.
-...it would be so much better for you.
676
00:28:49,144 --> 00:28:51,313
-Trust me, it feels so much better.
-Yes, you would know!
677
00:28:51,396 --> 00:28:53,398
Well, not to be like the MomTok police,
678
00:28:53,482 --> 00:28:55,192
but I do feel like
people resonate with us though
679
00:28:55,275 --> 00:28:57,903
because we all make mistakes,
nobody's perfect,
680
00:28:57,986 --> 00:28:59,529
and I feel like
we're all kind of open about it.
681
00:28:59,613 --> 00:29:03,116
And I don't feel like
Demi is doing that anymore.
682
00:29:03,533 --> 00:29:04,618
I feel like she was,
683
00:29:04,701 --> 00:29:06,161
-we all were in the beginning.
-You don't say.
684
00:29:06,245 --> 00:29:08,747
We kind of all lost the plot,
I think, for a second.
685
00:29:08,830 --> 00:29:10,916
We didn't lose the plot,
we lost the foundation.
686
00:29:10,999 --> 00:29:12,751
What do we do?
'Cause if she's in the group now,
687
00:29:12,834 --> 00:29:13,835
like, she's back.
688
00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:16,046
I think we try to see how she
operates at The Reunion.
689
00:29:16,129 --> 00:29:17,422
-Yeah.
-And how she handles it.
690
00:29:17,506 --> 00:29:20,175
And if she chooses
to come in and be authentic,
691
00:29:20,259 --> 00:29:21,343
and I think we'll see.
692
00:29:21,718 --> 00:29:22,719
I'm nervous.
693
00:29:22,803 --> 00:29:25,847
♪ I wish I could be the one to save you ♪
694
00:29:25,931 --> 00:29:26,932
♪ Jesus ♪
695
00:29:30,394 --> 00:29:32,145
♪ I love my friends ♪
696
00:29:32,938 --> 00:29:34,523
♪ I love my friends ♪
697
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,903
♪ Living that sunshine good life
again and again ♪
698
00:29:39,987 --> 00:29:41,571
♪ I love my friends ♪
699
00:29:42,155 --> 00:29:43,991
♪ I love my friends ♪
700
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:47,202
♪ It's the bestest every day ♪
701
00:29:47,286 --> 00:29:48,912
♪ Never want it to end ♪
702
00:29:48,996 --> 00:29:51,081
-It's hard to walk.
-I know. It is.
703
00:29:54,501 --> 00:29:57,379
Today, me, Jacob, and Mikayla are going
to meet up with Chase.
704
00:29:57,462 --> 00:29:59,589
I am very reluctant to do so.
705
00:29:59,673 --> 00:30:03,176
However, Jacob is trying to get me
to be open-minded to it
706
00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:06,596
because, I think, maybe it'll help
things feel less contentious for him
707
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,473
making friends with the guys
and whatnot,
708
00:30:08,557 --> 00:30:11,226
and maybe he'll feel more at peace
with everything.
709
00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:13,812
-What's going on, man?
-Oh, what's up?
710
00:30:14,730 --> 00:30:15,856
-Good to see you.
-[Jacob] You too.
711
00:30:15,939 --> 00:30:17,524
[Mayci] And I asked Mikayla to come
712
00:30:17,607 --> 00:30:20,610
because whatever issues I'm gonna have
with Chase, she will, too.
713
00:30:20,694 --> 00:30:23,780
So I think, like, having her there,
not only is it backup,
714
00:30:23,864 --> 00:30:27,409
but like you might as well,
two birds, one stone, be done with it.
715
00:30:27,492 --> 00:30:28,869
Mikayla decided to come join us.
716
00:30:28,952 --> 00:30:29,953
Yeah.
717
00:30:30,495 --> 00:30:32,956
If you are trying to clear anything up
with the men,
718
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,875
I think it's obviously a job for--
719
00:30:34,958 --> 00:30:37,461
What are we called?
Are we M&M Incorporated?
720
00:30:37,544 --> 00:30:40,255
It's time to go full FBI on this bitch.
721
00:30:40,339 --> 00:30:41,715
[chuckling] Full FBI.
722
00:30:41,798 --> 00:30:43,759
I think it's what we do best.
723
00:30:45,093 --> 00:30:47,054
-[Chase] Thanks for setting this up, dude.
-Yeah.
724
00:30:47,137 --> 00:30:48,263
[Chase] I appreciate you guys coming.
725
00:30:48,347 --> 00:30:50,098
-I know it's obviously a little awkward.
-[Mikayla] Mm-hmm.
726
00:30:50,182 --> 00:30:51,183
-'Cause I think--
-[Mayci] Yeah.
727
00:30:51,266 --> 00:30:53,310
'Cause you've talked shit
on us for-- online for years?
728
00:30:54,478 --> 00:30:56,313
-[Chase] Yeah. I don't think it's--
-Without knowing us?
729
00:30:56,396 --> 00:30:58,940
I don't think it's one-sided, but... sure.
730
00:30:59,024 --> 00:31:01,401
I haven't. I talk shit offline
731
00:31:01,485 --> 00:31:03,779
-but not online. That's different.
-I don't have a podcast about you.
732
00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:05,405
Tomato, tomato.
733
00:31:06,281 --> 00:31:07,741
Any animosity that we have
734
00:31:07,824 --> 00:31:10,285
that I've contributed to
by way of the podcast,
735
00:31:10,369 --> 00:31:13,121
I do think that was in poor taste.
736
00:31:13,622 --> 00:31:14,831
He was doing it for clicks.
737
00:31:15,457 --> 00:31:17,125
Totally was for click--
Like, the whole point of it...
738
00:31:17,209 --> 00:31:18,752
-To get people's comments.
-...was to just be a dick,
739
00:31:18,835 --> 00:31:21,880
and, honestly, piss off the people
that, like, we were talking about.
740
00:31:21,963 --> 00:31:23,048
Is that funny, Jacob?
741
00:31:24,841 --> 00:31:26,343
I look back on it now, and I'm like--
742
00:31:26,426 --> 00:31:29,012
Look, I actually think it was stupid.
I said some mean things.
743
00:31:29,179 --> 00:31:32,057
Do you guys know Mayci?
I think people kinda pity her.
744
00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:35,519
Pre-MomTok, her thing
that got her her followers
745
00:31:35,602 --> 00:31:39,106
was she had a baby daddy
who died in a car accident.
746
00:31:39,940 --> 00:31:41,775
I ain't-- Nah,
I ain't gonna touch this one.
747
00:31:41,858 --> 00:31:43,360
-And Maybe--
-We're gonna get a call from Hulu...
748
00:31:43,443 --> 00:31:45,070
-Not we.
-..."You cannot air this."
749
00:31:45,153 --> 00:31:46,488
-And...
-[chuckling]
750
00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:48,740
[Chase] Bad look.
Shouldn't have said it.
751
00:31:48,824 --> 00:31:51,243
Super stupid.
Wish I wouldn't have. So, I'm sorry.
752
00:31:52,911 --> 00:31:55,789
I think it's been a long four years
of Mayci not liking Chase,
753
00:31:55,872 --> 00:31:56,873
and rightfully so.
754
00:31:56,957 --> 00:31:58,792
But I think there is a good guy in there.
755
00:31:58,875 --> 00:32:00,669
Chase has remorse,
he's taken accountability.
756
00:32:00,752 --> 00:32:02,003
And I think we really did label him
757
00:32:02,087 --> 00:32:05,048
and threw him in this bucket
of this evil dude who's just swinging
758
00:32:05,132 --> 00:32:06,716
and wanting to get other people
to swing with him.
759
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,303
Yeah, I think, uh,
I'm protective over my friends.
760
00:32:10,387 --> 00:32:13,140
Like, "Well, you're talking shit on Layla
saying she's bad in bed."
761
00:32:13,223 --> 00:32:15,308
That obviously really hurt her.
Like, she was-- I think she was crying.
762
00:32:15,392 --> 00:32:17,060
And then, like,
stuff with Taylor from the past
763
00:32:17,144 --> 00:32:18,728
-just made me mad.
-Totally.
764
00:32:18,812 --> 00:32:21,148
That's why I've had
a harder time with you.
765
00:32:21,231 --> 00:32:23,483
Yeah, I just wanted to bring up
'cause I did hear something.
766
00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:29,156
Is it true that you, at one point,
heard that I was like DMing you in a way
767
00:32:29,239 --> 00:32:31,491
that, like, maybe seemed
like I was flirting?
768
00:32:31,575 --> 00:32:34,327
-Was that an initiation to swing, becaus--
-[laughing] No, it wasn't.
769
00:32:34,411 --> 00:32:35,787
No, I know that's what it looks like,
770
00:32:35,871 --> 00:32:39,124
'cause, uh,
I remember that specific cabin.
771
00:32:39,207 --> 00:32:42,461
It wasn't just a like freaking hedonistic
orgy every time we went to these.
772
00:32:42,544 --> 00:32:44,254
-That was like twice.
-[Mikayla scoffs]
773
00:32:44,337 --> 00:32:45,714
You guys were just drinking and partying.
774
00:32:45,797 --> 00:32:47,257
Jacob, whose side are you on?
775
00:32:47,757 --> 00:32:50,093
Um... [laughs] we still got the sides.
776
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,263
[Jacob] Me and Mayci are trying
to be the best people we can.
777
00:32:53,346 --> 00:32:54,347
It's taught in the Book of Mormon.
778
00:32:54,431 --> 00:32:56,183
It's taught in the Bible
to show forgiveness.
779
00:32:56,266 --> 00:32:58,852
And I think this is one of those times
where Mayci needs to do that,
780
00:32:58,935 --> 00:33:01,521
so that MomTok and DadTok
can both coexist together
781
00:33:01,605 --> 00:33:02,731
in peace and harmony.
782
00:33:02,814 --> 00:33:04,191
-[Mayci] He's still figuring--
-I'm in between.
783
00:33:04,274 --> 00:33:05,525
But I did take a few steps back
784
00:33:05,609 --> 00:33:07,486
because when it comes
to our perspective of this whole thing,
785
00:33:07,569 --> 00:33:09,154
-you reaching out to Mayci...
-Yeah.
786
00:33:09,237 --> 00:33:12,991
...and then your wife saying,
"Oh, wait, Mayci's not invited,"
787
00:33:13,074 --> 00:33:15,494
and then, like,
the swinging stuff coming out--
788
00:33:15,577 --> 00:33:18,455
And so, we see all those things together
and we're like, "Ah!"
789
00:33:18,538 --> 00:33:20,582
-Like, so--
-[laughs] Like, totally. Bad optic.
790
00:33:20,665 --> 00:33:23,251
Well, I feel like
you can't help yourself sometimes.
791
00:33:23,335 --> 00:33:25,587
-And I'm like, "I don't like that."
-[Mikayla] And you are very demeaning
792
00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:29,341
to all the girls online
for like years for no reason.
793
00:33:29,424 --> 00:33:31,468
The perception is
that you don't treat women well.
794
00:33:31,551 --> 00:33:33,303
They're well-documented
that I am an idiot.
795
00:33:33,386 --> 00:33:34,387
There's no hiding that.
796
00:33:34,471 --> 00:33:37,849
I will say Chase did take accountability
for his actions.
797
00:33:37,933 --> 00:33:42,312
I just hope that Chase continues
to be on a better track
798
00:33:42,395 --> 00:33:44,064
if Jacob's going to be friends with him.
799
00:33:44,147 --> 00:33:46,024
Am I making any headway, or no?
800
00:33:46,107 --> 00:33:47,567
-[Mikayla] Um...
-I don't-- It's hard to say.
801
00:33:47,651 --> 00:33:48,860
-I mean, I guess it's--
-We're pretty--
802
00:33:48,944 --> 00:33:51,196
I guess it's the behavior in the future.
803
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:52,447
It's like, I can't say.
804
00:33:52,531 --> 00:33:54,783
I hope this is the last time
I ever have to say sorry.
805
00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:56,451
[Mikayla] I'm very big on timing
806
00:33:56,535 --> 00:33:59,538
and I feel like Chase is coming
into the group ready to "apologize"
807
00:33:59,621 --> 00:34:00,622
now that cameras are up.
808
00:34:00,705 --> 00:34:03,124
I think if you're actually sorry,
you're gonna do it off-camera,
809
00:34:03,208 --> 00:34:05,085
and he had years to do it.
810
00:34:05,168 --> 00:34:08,004
His apology clearly isn't genuine.
He wants the clout.
811
00:34:08,088 --> 00:34:09,881
I think that's just a grudge
that I'm gonna hold.
812
00:34:09,965 --> 00:34:12,342
I'm not gonna say mean things about women.
813
00:34:12,425 --> 00:34:13,426
Okay, good.
814
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:14,803
Very pro-women.
815
00:34:16,763 --> 00:34:17,847
Damn!
816
00:34:17,931 --> 00:34:19,975
♪♪
817
00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:22,769
♪ I thought we were good
I thought we were great ♪
818
00:34:22,852 --> 00:34:24,938
♪ Thought we're on the same page ♪
819
00:34:25,021 --> 00:34:26,064
♪ In the same game ♪
820
00:34:26,565 --> 00:34:29,317
♪ Why you switching up,
why you change your face? ♪
821
00:34:29,401 --> 00:34:31,278
♪ Why you make me feel anxious? ♪
822
00:34:31,361 --> 00:34:33,196
♪ Something about you changed ♪
823
00:34:34,781 --> 00:34:36,449
[Jen] Today is The Reunion.
824
00:34:36,533 --> 00:34:39,244
[♪ church choir singing]
825
00:34:39,327 --> 00:34:41,079
Reunions can be very hard
826
00:34:41,162 --> 00:34:44,165
because you're seeing scenes
that you haven't seen before.
827
00:34:44,249 --> 00:34:45,375
Maybe you're hearing things
828
00:34:45,458 --> 00:34:47,669
that you've never heard before
for the first time.
829
00:34:48,169 --> 00:34:53,174
They can really make every positive thing
just immediately go up in flames.
830
00:34:53,258 --> 00:34:54,426
Uh, we've seen it before.
831
00:34:54,509 --> 00:34:56,595
We are supposed to talk
about our true feelings.
832
00:34:56,678 --> 00:34:59,097
So, I think it is inevitable
that something's gonna blow up.
833
00:34:59,180 --> 00:35:01,516
Play nice. Please. We had a kumbaya.
834
00:35:09,065 --> 00:35:10,358
Dear Heavenly Father,
835
00:35:10,442 --> 00:35:12,944
we want to thank Thee
for the opportunity we have
836
00:35:13,028 --> 00:35:14,362
to come together today.
837
00:35:14,446 --> 00:35:16,114
We pray that we can have the strength
838
00:35:16,197 --> 00:35:19,075
to stand by our own principles
and our own values
839
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:22,203
as well as listen to those
who may have differing opinions.
840
00:35:22,287 --> 00:35:23,997
And we say these things,
the name of Jesus Christ.
841
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,290
-Amen.
-[cast] Amen.
842
00:35:25,665 --> 00:35:28,960
At the end of last season,
MomTok had a kumbaya.
843
00:35:29,794 --> 00:35:30,962
[both crying]
844
00:35:31,046 --> 00:35:33,340
[Taylor] We wanted to put
all the drama behind us.
845
00:35:33,423 --> 00:35:36,176
I don't think
everything was resolved there necessarily.
846
00:35:36,259 --> 00:35:39,929
I think there's a lot of underlying issues
that maybe some of them have.
847
00:35:40,472 --> 00:35:46,144
So, I will say, The Reunion
definitely is resurfacing that.
848
00:35:46,227 --> 00:35:47,771
To me, I've seen enough.
849
00:35:47,854 --> 00:35:50,940
-Did you see anything happen off-camera?
-No, I didn't.
850
00:35:51,024 --> 00:35:53,360
-Why are you fucking saying a word?
-Okay, well, why did you--
851
00:35:53,443 --> 00:35:55,278
-She's made my life a living hell.
-Just let her finish.
852
00:35:55,362 --> 00:35:56,655
You've done nothing to me?
853
00:35:56,738 --> 00:35:57,739
You bullied me.
854
00:35:58,406 --> 00:36:01,826
How do you feel about your wife
texting the word "cum" to another male?
855
00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:02,911
How do you feel about that?
856
00:36:02,994 --> 00:36:04,204
It's just like, "Oh, here we go again."
857
00:36:04,287 --> 00:36:06,247
What the fuck is wrong with you?
858
00:36:06,331 --> 00:36:08,833
What the actual fuck
is wrong with your brain?
859
00:36:11,211 --> 00:36:14,047
There you go, Demi.
Your true colors have come back out.
860
00:36:14,547 --> 00:36:17,550
Her screaming at Jen on stage,
calling her names,
861
00:36:17,634 --> 00:36:19,803
it was like she had a mask on
and it started to slip a little bit
862
00:36:19,886 --> 00:36:23,306
and her anger started showing,
and this is the Demi I know.
863
00:36:23,390 --> 00:36:25,058
[Mikayla]
So, there's so many unanswered questions
864
00:36:25,141 --> 00:36:26,851
that I'm like,
"Can we just get to the bottom of it?"
865
00:36:26,935 --> 00:36:31,147
It's like muddied because
of this stupid fucking asshole that's lied
866
00:36:31,231 --> 00:36:33,233
and, sorry, but, Jen, who's lied
867
00:36:33,316 --> 00:36:35,360
and put all these things in your head
that never happened.
868
00:36:35,443 --> 00:36:36,695
Okay.
869
00:36:36,778 --> 00:36:39,447
I've been called everything in the book
by Demi,
870
00:36:39,531 --> 00:36:41,908
including being a pathological liar.
871
00:36:41,991 --> 00:36:43,910
And I'm tired of her deflecting.
872
00:36:43,993 --> 00:36:46,830
In reality, that has been her
the whole time.
873
00:36:46,913 --> 00:36:49,040
No one's fucking believing Marciano.
874
00:36:49,124 --> 00:36:52,460
No. That's the prob-- That's why it's so,
like, hard because it's like,
875
00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:55,422
"Okay, yeah, he's saying
this happened or this didn't happen,"
876
00:36:55,505 --> 00:36:57,215
but it doesn't really hold
a whole lot of weight.
877
00:36:57,298 --> 00:36:59,551
I've heard things, Demi,
and I'm not gonna believe anything
878
00:36:59,634 --> 00:37:01,094
-until I actually see--
-Okay. That's fine, Jessi.
879
00:37:01,177 --> 00:37:03,012
But you don't need to be pompous about it.
I'm ma--
880
00:37:03,096 --> 00:37:04,681
I'm sorry,
you were just yelling at my friend
881
00:37:04,764 --> 00:37:06,933
and saying the most,
like, aggressive, cruel things--
882
00:37:07,016 --> 00:37:08,268
Do you know what she's done to me?
883
00:37:08,351 --> 00:37:09,978
-She sat there literally...
-I don't have to say anything.
884
00:37:10,061 --> 00:37:11,521
...in the same sentence,
and said something--
885
00:37:11,604 --> 00:37:14,274
You hate me because I'm sharing the truth.
You hate me 'cause I was the only one...
886
00:37:14,357 --> 00:37:15,734
-[Demi] No. No.
...that called you out
887
00:37:15,817 --> 00:37:17,026
when everyone was bowing down to you.
888
00:37:17,110 --> 00:37:18,194
-That's why you hate me.
-[Demi] No.
889
00:37:18,278 --> 00:37:19,988
If you can't look at yourself
in the mirror
890
00:37:20,071 --> 00:37:21,573
-and take accountability--
-[Demi] I already have!
891
00:37:21,656 --> 00:37:23,908
-What do you think I've done?
-You're not doing it. Clearly, you're not.
892
00:37:23,992 --> 00:37:26,161
-You're deflecting still.
-[Demi] I'm talking about Marciano.
893
00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:27,662
You're still doing it this whole time.
894
00:37:28,705 --> 00:37:31,916
I definitely feel empowered
to call Demi out.
895
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,752
Someone needs to make her accountable
896
00:37:33,835 --> 00:37:35,837
because she's done that
to everyone else in the group.
897
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,089
And so, I'm gonna be that person.
898
00:37:38,173 --> 00:37:39,716
Did you not watch yourself
in season three?
899
00:37:39,799 --> 00:37:41,843
-[Demi] You have to back up your claim.
-You look guilty AF.
900
00:37:41,926 --> 00:37:43,011
[Demi] Oh, good. I look guilty.
901
00:37:43,094 --> 00:37:44,179
The fact of the matter is,
902
00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:45,847
you don't have proof
of the things you're saying,
903
00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:48,767
-which makes it a lie because I lived it.
-[Jen] Okay. Okay.
904
00:37:48,850 --> 00:37:50,894
-And I know the truth.
-[Jen] Okay. Okay. I don't have proof.
905
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:54,564
-[Demi] So why are you saying it?
-Okay. The world's already seen it.
906
00:37:54,647 --> 00:37:56,649
-I don't really have to say anything.
-[Demi] Seen what?
907
00:37:57,275 --> 00:37:59,360
-Just who you are. Just who you are.
-[Demi] A kiss that didn't happen?
908
00:37:59,444 --> 00:38:03,156
A cuddling up against someone,
and googly eyes that didn't happen?
909
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,034
Your stories don't add up
because you keep changing them.
910
00:38:06,117 --> 00:38:07,410
-[Demi] No, I didn't--
-Yes!
911
00:38:08,745 --> 00:38:09,829
You said you were not a victim,
912
00:38:09,913 --> 00:38:11,998
-and now you're a victim.
-[Demi] I said, I do not--
913
00:38:12,081 --> 00:38:15,376
I do not wanna do anything about this.
Guys, I am not a victim.
914
00:38:15,460 --> 00:38:17,212
-[Jessi] "I'm not a victim"?
-Yes!
915
00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:19,923
[Jessi] And then now you're saying,
"I'm a victim." So your story has changed.
916
00:38:20,006 --> 00:38:23,676
Yes. That was a response to me of like,
"Cover this up. Shut everyone up.
917
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,011
I don't wanna talk about this."
918
00:38:27,055 --> 00:38:31,392
The biggest problem I think I have
with everybody is the knee-jerk reaction
919
00:38:31,476 --> 00:38:34,687
to Demi saying that she was a victim
was to not believe her.
920
00:38:35,188 --> 00:38:37,649
[Zac] You would feel comfortable
sending to another woman
921
00:38:37,732 --> 00:38:39,317
that you're swallowing cum?
922
00:38:39,734 --> 00:38:41,194
I'm not wired like you, bud.
923
00:38:41,277 --> 00:38:43,112
[Zac] You should rewire yourself, then.
924
00:38:43,196 --> 00:38:44,948
-Oh, yeah? Okay.
-[Zac] That's disturbing, bro.
925
00:38:45,031 --> 00:38:46,115
[Bret] Alright, little guy.
926
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:47,534
Holy shit.
927
00:38:47,867 --> 00:38:51,538
Bret is an old grandpa that needs
to get sent to the old folks' home.
928
00:38:51,621 --> 00:38:53,540
We were in London last week with Marciano.
929
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,583
He stared us straight in the eyes
930
00:38:55,667 --> 00:38:58,044
and told us the truth
of everything, of Jessi,
931
00:38:58,127 --> 00:38:59,879
of him and Jessi, of him and Demi.
932
00:38:59,963 --> 00:39:04,300
He still claims to this day,
on camera, that he kissed Demi.
933
00:39:05,718 --> 00:39:08,888
Marciano said that Demi was sitting
in a hot tub with him alone,
934
00:39:08,972 --> 00:39:10,098
or they were out talking for like
935
00:39:10,181 --> 00:39:12,642
-the first, like, three hours of the day.
-We talked to Marciano for an hour, dude.
936
00:39:12,809 --> 00:39:15,144
I've seen every ounce of the footage.
937
00:39:15,228 --> 00:39:20,316
So, I think when the women
are doubting her, um...
938
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,110
I think they've got very good reason.
939
00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:24,988
From our perspective,
can you see why we think the things we do?
940
00:39:25,071 --> 00:39:27,198
'Cause it's hard to understand the story.
941
00:39:27,282 --> 00:39:29,742
So, if you have a different story,
I'm open to hearing it.
942
00:39:29,826 --> 00:39:31,870
-I know the truth.
-[Zac] Can you tell us?
943
00:39:31,953 --> 00:39:32,954
And-- And that matters.
944
00:39:33,037 --> 00:39:34,664
[Jacob] Can we agree
that she was like flirting
945
00:39:34,747 --> 00:39:35,832
and having long conversations
946
00:39:35,915 --> 00:39:39,085
and, like, building a relationship
with a guy that she just met?
947
00:39:39,168 --> 00:39:40,837
She wasn't building
a relationship with him.
948
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,423
[Jacob] She talked about-- She talked
about your guys' marriage, didn't she?
949
00:39:43,506 --> 00:39:45,466
Yeah. I mean,
she was-- she was talking to him.
950
00:39:45,967 --> 00:39:47,927
The-- I'll let her explain
all the nuances around it.
951
00:39:48,011 --> 00:39:49,012
[Jacob] I understand.
952
00:39:49,095 --> 00:39:50,847
It's delulu land, dude.
953
00:39:50,930 --> 00:39:52,682
You guys live in a different universe.
954
00:39:52,765 --> 00:39:56,019
-How-- How can--
-I had no idea that pathological lying...
955
00:39:56,102 --> 00:39:58,521
-[Zac] How can you watch that, bro?
-...was contagious, but I guess it is.
956
00:39:58,605 --> 00:40:01,065
Bret, I don't even know why you're here.
Just walk away.
957
00:40:01,649 --> 00:40:03,026
Everyone's being nice to you.
958
00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:06,154
People just talk shit behind your back
'cause you're a shitty person.
959
00:40:06,237 --> 00:40:08,489
Hey, the feeling's mutual, dipshit.
Just so you know.
960
00:40:08,573 --> 00:40:10,408
-[Zac] Good, I'm glad.
-And it's so hard to take you seriously
961
00:40:10,491 --> 00:40:11,534
with your little munchkin voice.
962
00:40:11,618 --> 00:40:13,536
-[Zac] Oh, nice, bro. You're a big guy.
-Good Lord. I'm serious.
963
00:40:13,620 --> 00:40:14,829
[Jace] I think that's a little steep.
964
00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:17,999
And I don't think anything good
is gonna come from talking like that.
965
00:40:20,293 --> 00:40:24,172
If you heard about this and you heard
that Marciano was gonna come onto podcasts
966
00:40:24,255 --> 00:40:28,718
and then his show and air out Jessi
and what happened there,
967
00:40:28,801 --> 00:40:30,345
I'm just confused,
why wouldn't you go to Jessi?
968
00:40:30,428 --> 00:40:32,764
My immediate reaction was,
969
00:40:32,847 --> 00:40:35,433
"I don't fucking care what's happened
between me and Jessi.
970
00:40:35,516 --> 00:40:38,603
I am putting up a white flag,
and I'm finding a way to contact her."
971
00:40:38,686 --> 00:40:40,730
-Because you had me blocked on everything.
-[Jessi] But you didn't.
972
00:40:40,813 --> 00:40:42,440
-No, I didn't.
-[Jessi] You could've gotten through me--
973
00:40:42,523 --> 00:40:44,317
[Demi] And Marciano said,
"Don't you fucking dare."
974
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,610
So then I got scared again,
975
00:40:45,693 --> 00:40:47,278
-and I was like, "Shit."
-Scared of what?
976
00:40:47,362 --> 00:40:49,489
This is a trauma response,
and it's so stupid.
977
00:40:49,572 --> 00:40:53,242
But it really was as simple as
me not wanting to be viewed as a victim,
978
00:40:53,326 --> 00:40:54,786
like, period, the end.
979
00:40:54,869 --> 00:40:58,665
I don't wanna take away from the ass-grab
'cause obviously in no way is that okay--
980
00:40:58,748 --> 00:41:01,334
[Demi] But, which, by the way,
it was not just like an ass-grab.
981
00:41:01,417 --> 00:41:02,835
I was in short shorts, he grabbed--
982
00:41:02,919 --> 00:41:06,172
This is gonna go circles though, for round
and round and round and round and round
983
00:41:06,255 --> 00:41:07,715
and we're never gonna come
to a conclusion.
984
00:41:07,799 --> 00:41:10,510
I think, at this point too,
everybody needs to be okay with the fact
985
00:41:10,593 --> 00:41:12,595
that we're never going
to come to a conclusion.
986
00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:15,974
Because I can sit here and say,
"If that truly happened to you,
987
00:41:16,057 --> 00:41:17,475
I'm really sorry for that."
988
00:41:18,059 --> 00:41:20,603
All of us in MomTok, it's like we want
obviously to believe you.
989
00:41:20,687 --> 00:41:22,063
We want to, like, see eye-to-eye
990
00:41:22,146 --> 00:41:25,108
but, like, nothing adds up,
and it just doesn't make sense.
991
00:41:25,191 --> 00:41:26,609
And so, I do feel for Demi
992
00:41:26,693 --> 00:41:28,403
because it's like,
"Yeah, you're in a situation
993
00:41:28,486 --> 00:41:29,904
where all these voices are coming at you,"
994
00:41:29,988 --> 00:41:31,489
but she has to expect it
995
00:41:31,572 --> 00:41:33,950
if she's gonna keep defending it
over and over and over.
996
00:41:34,033 --> 00:41:36,202
I think she wants to prove herself so bad,
997
00:41:36,285 --> 00:41:38,955
but in turn, I feel like
it only makes her look more guilty.
998
00:41:39,038 --> 00:41:40,748
[Demi] I didn't do what he did to me,
999
00:41:40,832 --> 00:41:43,918
and I didn't ask for that,
and I didn't deserve that.
1000
00:41:44,002 --> 00:41:46,337
However, moving forward like, "Shit, Demi,
1001
00:41:46,421 --> 00:41:49,924
like, you probably should've been
more careful and been more cautious."
1002
00:41:50,008 --> 00:41:53,386
And that sucks, especially when
you've been in that situation...
1003
00:41:53,469 --> 00:41:56,180
[crying] and it, like,
brings up old stuff, like--
1004
00:41:56,264 --> 00:41:59,434
Then you start really blaming yourself
for, like, what they do.
1005
00:41:59,767 --> 00:42:03,438
At this point, like,
it's more painful to not be believed,
1006
00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:07,275
than to say-- or have to go over it
over and over and over
1007
00:42:07,358 --> 00:42:09,694
and feel the pain of past things,
1008
00:42:09,777 --> 00:42:13,281
than to just say, "Fuck! Yeah, we kissed.
Fuck! Yeah, this happened."
1009
00:42:13,364 --> 00:42:16,409
I'd rather something fucking happened,
at this point,
1010
00:42:16,492 --> 00:42:18,536
because this sucks way worse.
1011
00:42:18,619 --> 00:42:19,996
And, like, every time I talk,
1012
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:22,623
"You're digging yourself out of a hole.
You're doing this."
1013
00:42:22,707 --> 00:42:27,879
I'd rather fucking something happened,
at this point, because it's excruciating.
1014
00:42:29,047 --> 00:42:31,924
I think that the lack of accountability,
1015
00:42:32,008 --> 00:42:33,468
the lack of transparency,
1016
00:42:33,551 --> 00:42:35,970
the lack of sensitivity on Demi's end
1017
00:42:36,054 --> 00:42:40,141
has made it very difficult for all of us
to give the grace
1018
00:42:40,224 --> 00:42:43,394
that I think that she believes
she is owed.
1019
00:42:43,478 --> 00:42:47,273
But I think all of us girls, as a whole,
would've been a lot more open
1020
00:42:47,356 --> 00:42:50,860
had we had that transparency
from the beginning.
1021
00:43:10,129 --> 00:43:11,422
[Jessi] She's smart. She's calculated.
1022
00:43:11,506 --> 00:43:13,174
She knew the fuck--
what the fuck she was doing.
1023
00:43:13,257 --> 00:43:15,301
And I'm sorry, but I-- I--
I won't be friends with her anymore.
1024
00:43:15,384 --> 00:43:18,304
Like, I've been seeing this behavior
for a long time, and I'm done.
1025
00:43:23,434 --> 00:43:25,436
♪ Let me show you
how to make 'em all sweat ♪
1026
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,730
♪ Yeah, you in my neck of the woods ♪
1027
00:43:27,814 --> 00:43:29,524
♪ My side of the corner got bet ♪
1028
00:43:29,607 --> 00:43:31,859
♪ Huh, 'bout to go all out, ball out ♪
1029
00:43:31,943 --> 00:43:32,985
♪ Give 'em all 100% ♪
1030
00:43:33,069 --> 00:43:34,153
[Whitney] Hello!
1031
00:43:34,237 --> 00:43:36,823
[crowd cheering]
1032
00:43:36,906 --> 00:43:39,450
Thank you so much for being here.
1033
00:43:39,867 --> 00:43:41,077
Oh, my God.
1034
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,080
After filming The Reunion
all day yesterday, I am still in Utah
1035
00:43:44,163 --> 00:43:47,625
and today's my first meet and greet
for ACTA's campaign.
1036
00:43:47,708 --> 00:43:49,627
I am the face of their core collection.
1037
00:43:49,710 --> 00:43:53,047
[photographer] Okay, ready?
One, two, three, cheese.
1038
00:43:53,131 --> 00:43:54,423
Hey, cutie, you come up here in front.
1039
00:43:54,507 --> 00:43:56,676
And right after, we're having
an influencer dinner
1040
00:43:56,759 --> 00:43:57,927
with influencers in Utah,
1041
00:43:58,010 --> 00:44:00,763
and all of MomTok there to support me.
1042
00:44:00,847 --> 00:44:02,515
[Jessi]
Are you going to Whitney's event tonight?
1043
00:44:02,598 --> 00:44:06,144
Yeah, I said I would.
Just... care to be supportive.
1044
00:44:06,227 --> 00:44:07,687
[Mikayla] I said that I would go, too.
1045
00:44:07,770 --> 00:44:09,313
-[Jessi] Are you?
-Yeah. I'm-- Well--
1046
00:44:09,397 --> 00:44:11,899
Okay. I'm surprised you're going
to an ewent-- an event for Whitney.
1047
00:44:13,401 --> 00:44:15,153
[Jessi] Oh. True.
1048
00:44:15,236 --> 00:44:16,863
But I feel like we had
a good moment yesterday,
1049
00:44:16,946 --> 00:44:18,114
just after everything.
1050
00:44:18,197 --> 00:44:20,241
I think trauma dumping
really just bonds people.
1051
00:44:20,324 --> 00:44:21,325
[Mayci] People, yeah.
1052
00:44:21,492 --> 00:44:26,664
How does it feel hearing Jace say
not having intimacy is an issue for him?
1053
00:44:26,747 --> 00:44:29,000
It's like I feel guilty
that I can't show up for him
1054
00:44:29,083 --> 00:44:30,585
when he's so amazing to me.
1055
00:44:30,668 --> 00:44:32,753
Whitney, how does that make you feel?
1056
00:44:32,837 --> 00:44:35,923
It's just a horrible thing
that I think anyone has to go through,
1057
00:44:36,549 --> 00:44:38,467
um, being sexually abused.
1058
00:44:40,011 --> 00:44:42,054
I feel like
it's just confusing still with her.
1059
00:44:42,138 --> 00:44:44,348
-She's very confusing to me.
-Yeah. No, I get that.
1060
00:44:44,432 --> 00:44:45,933
[Mikayla] 'Cause she still--
She still doesn't get it.
1061
00:44:46,017 --> 00:44:48,186
Like, yesterday, I could tell,
"You still don't get it--"
1062
00:44:48,269 --> 00:44:49,353
I don't know if she ever will though,
1063
00:44:49,437 --> 00:44:51,314
and it's at the point where
you kinda just be like, "That's Whitney."
1064
00:44:51,397 --> 00:44:52,398
-[Mayci] Yeah.
-It's hard.
1065
00:44:52,481 --> 00:44:54,317
♪ You can make this or that ♪
1066
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,070
♪ You are a different breed
magnetic super fly ♪
1067
00:44:58,154 --> 00:45:00,072
♪ You're who they want to be ♪
1068
00:45:00,156 --> 00:45:04,160
♪ And the strangest things
can make you fall in love ♪
1069
00:45:04,243 --> 00:45:07,830
♪ I think you're just like me
I think you look like fun ♪
1070
00:45:07,914 --> 00:45:09,123
♪ You look like fun ♪
1071
00:45:11,834 --> 00:45:13,044
♪ You look like fun ♪
1072
00:45:15,421 --> 00:45:16,422
♪ You look like fun ♪
1073
00:45:16,505 --> 00:45:18,257
-[Kenzie shrieks]
-Hi.
1074
00:45:18,341 --> 00:45:21,761
Oh, my gosh! Stop. Stop. Spin. Yes.
1075
00:45:22,303 --> 00:45:24,305
I can't spin too much
or I might flash someone.
1076
00:45:24,388 --> 00:45:26,641
-Okay. You look stunning.
-[Whitney] Thank you.
1077
00:45:26,724 --> 00:45:28,100
Thank you guys so much.
1078
00:45:28,184 --> 00:45:29,268
Look how cute you look!
1079
00:45:29,352 --> 00:45:31,854
[Whitney]
Everything's just been, like, perfect.
1080
00:45:31,938 --> 00:45:34,273
-Like, I'm so grateful.
-[Brie] Yeah. You look stunning.
1081
00:45:34,357 --> 00:45:37,276
-We'll see how tonight goes and... yeah.
-[Kenzie] Yeah, it'll be good.
1082
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,362
-Good.
-It'll be good. We're manifesting good.
1083
00:45:39,445 --> 00:45:40,446
Okay.
1084
00:45:40,529 --> 00:45:42,365
The Reunion was literally yesterday,
1085
00:45:42,448 --> 00:45:45,534
so I'm sure everyone is still feeling
those heightened emotions right now.
1086
00:45:45,618 --> 00:45:48,579
So, them taking time out of their day
1087
00:45:48,663 --> 00:45:51,499
to come to this event
that's in support of me,
1088
00:45:51,582 --> 00:45:52,583
it means a lot to me.
1089
00:45:52,667 --> 00:45:56,337
It just reminds me more than ever
how important these friendships are.
1090
00:45:56,420 --> 00:45:59,423
♪♪
1091
00:46:00,424 --> 00:46:05,221
I'm still processing everything
that happened yesterday at The Reunion,
1092
00:46:05,304 --> 00:46:08,224
but I'm choosing to stay here
to support Whitney
1093
00:46:08,307 --> 00:46:10,810
even if it means running into Demi again.
1094
00:46:10,893 --> 00:46:12,520
♪ No time to be takin' it ♪
1095
00:46:13,145 --> 00:46:15,064
♪ No time to be takin' it slow ♪
1096
00:46:15,147 --> 00:46:16,732
♪ Slow, slow, slow ♪
1097
00:46:16,816 --> 00:46:19,819
♪♪
1098
00:46:20,778 --> 00:46:24,490
-[Mayci] Hi.
-Hi! How are you?
1099
00:46:24,573 --> 00:46:26,075
[Miranda]
How are you feeling after yesterday?
1100
00:46:26,158 --> 00:46:27,410
-[Mayci] So tired.
-[Whitney] I know.
1101
00:46:27,493 --> 00:46:28,661
[Miranda] I'm so gassed.
1102
00:46:28,744 --> 00:46:31,539
-Like my body felt exhausted--
-No, my body's so tired.
1103
00:46:31,622 --> 00:46:33,499
I'm curious, like,
what your thoughts are on it.
1104
00:46:33,582 --> 00:46:34,834
It was a shit show.
1105
00:46:35,418 --> 00:46:36,711
Yeah, that's how I felt about it.
1106
00:46:36,794 --> 00:46:37,795
-With Demi, I'm like...
-I know.
1107
00:46:37,878 --> 00:46:39,088
...it is what it is and like--
1108
00:46:39,171 --> 00:46:42,049
I felt-- I felt for so many people
during that reunion but--
1109
00:46:42,133 --> 00:46:44,552
Yeah, no, she's not-- That's probably
the worst I've ever seen her.
1110
00:46:44,635 --> 00:46:45,636
[Mayci] Yeah.
1111
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:48,556
♪ I'm sorry, did you try to tell me
that I couldn't own it? ♪
1112
00:46:48,639 --> 00:46:49,932
♪ I've run this thing like-- ♪
1113
00:46:50,016 --> 00:46:52,143
-Hi! Oh, you look amazing!
-[Taylor] Hi. Congrats.
1114
00:46:52,226 --> 00:46:53,519
-Thank you
-Thanks for coming.
1115
00:46:53,602 --> 00:46:55,187
-Yeah, of course.
-I was like, "Who's gonna show up?
1116
00:46:55,271 --> 00:46:56,355
Yesterday was insane."
1117
00:46:56,439 --> 00:46:58,607
Stop. Of course, we're all coming.
Congrats!
1118
00:46:58,691 --> 00:47:01,694
♪♪
1119
00:47:02,903 --> 00:47:04,572
-[Layla] How are you?
-I'm good. How are you?
1120
00:47:04,655 --> 00:47:06,615
Like, yesterday was, like, heavy.
How are you feeling?
1121
00:47:06,699 --> 00:47:09,035
I felt like it was a very good closer--
like a closure.
1122
00:47:09,118 --> 00:47:10,745
Yeah. Good!
Wait, that's actually really good.
1123
00:47:10,828 --> 00:47:13,289
Like, I think I would've, like,
normally been, like, very emotional.
1124
00:47:13,372 --> 00:47:15,499
I think I was just like,
"This is bullshit. This is done."
1125
00:47:15,583 --> 00:47:17,168
-Yeah. Good, good.
-I know.
1126
00:47:17,251 --> 00:47:19,045
-That makes me really happy.
-I crashed out for two days,
1127
00:47:19,128 --> 00:47:20,129
had The Reunion, and I'm good.
1128
00:47:20,212 --> 00:47:22,548
Last night, Taylor and Dakota got
very heated.
1129
00:47:22,631 --> 00:47:26,302
Please, Taylor, for the love of God,
stay away from this man.
1130
00:47:26,385 --> 00:47:27,595
[Taylor] Keep going.
Go ahead with your lies.
1131
00:47:27,678 --> 00:47:28,763
Lies?
1132
00:47:28,846 --> 00:47:30,681
I had this perception
when I first met you,
1133
00:47:30,765 --> 00:47:33,267
like, red flag, red flag,
I do not like you.
1134
00:47:33,851 --> 00:47:35,936
I can't accept anything
that comes outta your mouth
1135
00:47:36,020 --> 00:47:37,438
'cause it's all bullshit, dude.
1136
00:47:37,521 --> 00:47:38,981
She's about to go to The Bachelorette
1137
00:47:39,065 --> 00:47:42,276
and I'm hopeful that she can, you know,
put her brain on right.
1138
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,154
But we all know she has
the biggest weak spot for that man.
1139
00:47:45,237 --> 00:47:46,405
But how was it for you?
1140
00:47:46,489 --> 00:47:49,575
Um, I feel like I left
feeling, like, a little frustrated
1141
00:47:49,658 --> 00:47:52,328
'cause I feel like we didn't even get
to, like, talk about a lot of things.
1142
00:47:52,411 --> 00:47:53,913
And there was some things
I wanted to, like, say.
1143
00:47:53,996 --> 00:47:55,081
Like what?
1144
00:47:55,539 --> 00:47:57,041
Well, just to Demi, she's not even here.
1145
00:47:57,792 --> 00:47:58,918
What do you mean she's not here?
1146
00:47:59,418 --> 00:48:00,878
-She's not coming.
-She's not coming.
1147
00:48:02,713 --> 00:48:03,839
Isn't this Whitney's thing?
1148
00:48:05,007 --> 00:48:06,384
Well, that's what we're talking about.
1149
00:48:06,467 --> 00:48:08,594
'Cause I'm like, it's hypocritical
considering how much shit Whitney got
1150
00:48:08,677 --> 00:48:10,012
for not going to Mayci's thing.
1151
00:48:10,096 --> 00:48:11,389
She said last night,
"I'll see you tomorrow.
1152
00:48:11,472 --> 00:48:12,598
You're coming, right?"
I was like, "Yeah."
1153
00:48:12,681 --> 00:48:14,016
I heard she wasn't coming.
1154
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:18,354
She told Whitney
she's not doing well mentally right now.
1155
00:48:18,437 --> 00:48:19,438
She's like crashing out.
1156
00:48:19,522 --> 00:48:22,733
♪♪
1157
00:48:22,817 --> 00:48:24,944
[Taylor] That's her-- It's her--
It's just her best friend.
1158
00:48:25,444 --> 00:48:28,114
I will say, I feel like
these events are kinda like
1159
00:48:28,197 --> 00:48:30,866
what MomTok is here for each other
1160
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:32,827
is to support each other at these events.
1161
00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:37,415
And I feel like when one gets to, like,
hide when they want, it's not right.
1162
00:48:37,498 --> 00:48:40,584
It's not okay. It's not how you work
with other people as a team player.
1163
00:48:40,668 --> 00:48:43,629
I'm like, "Girl,
you're not helping yourself at all."
1164
00:48:43,712 --> 00:48:46,006
♪♪
1165
00:48:57,393 --> 00:48:58,769
♪♪
1166
00:48:58,853 --> 00:49:00,729
Has anyone talked to Demi
since The Reunion?
1167
00:49:00,813 --> 00:49:02,314
-No.
-Not since The Reunion.
1168
00:49:02,731 --> 00:49:04,608
This is so sick.
1169
00:49:04,692 --> 00:49:06,026
[Mikayla/Miranda] Wait, cute!
1170
00:49:06,110 --> 00:49:07,403
-[Dakota] Good to see you.
-Hi, everybody.
1171
00:49:07,486 --> 00:49:08,821
-[Taylor] Hi.
-[Dakota] [chuckling] Hi.
1172
00:49:09,321 --> 00:49:10,698
Time to go!
1173
00:49:10,781 --> 00:49:12,950
[Taylor] They're quite literally dancing
on Dancing with the Stars.
1174
00:49:13,033 --> 00:49:14,034
[squealing]
1175
00:49:16,787 --> 00:49:18,330
[Layla] 'Kay, wait, question:
are you gonna tell me
1176
00:49:18,414 --> 00:49:19,957
like why you're not filming anymore?
1177
00:49:21,834 --> 00:49:24,044
-[Taylor] Hello?
-[man] [over phone] Hello, love. Hi.
1178
00:49:24,128 --> 00:49:25,629
Taylor has a guy on his way over.
1179
00:49:26,130 --> 00:49:27,631
Holy shit. You're tall.
1180
00:49:27,715 --> 00:49:29,341
Hey, what up, naughty girl?
1181
00:49:29,425 --> 00:49:30,718
That's my bachelorette!
1182
00:49:30,801 --> 00:49:32,261
[Taylor] My heart is racing.
1183
00:49:32,344 --> 00:49:34,513
[Dakota] I feel like I'm gonna get
in a fight tonight or something.
1184
00:49:40,853 --> 00:49:43,063
♪ Seasons are changing ♪
1185
00:49:43,147 --> 00:49:45,608
♪ The time keeps rearranging ♪
1186
00:49:45,691 --> 00:49:49,195
♪ Casting its shadow in each corner ♪
1187
00:49:50,112 --> 00:49:53,824
♪ I'm overboard, lost at sea, baby ♪
1188
00:49:53,908 --> 00:49:56,410
♪ Oh, what's the point in waving? ♪
1189
00:49:56,494 --> 00:49:58,996
♪ I'm going down anyway ♪
1190
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:02,833
♪ I'm in too deep, my love ♪
1191
00:50:04,084 --> 00:50:07,171
♪ I'm in too deep, my love ♪
1192
00:50:07,254 --> 00:50:09,048
♪ Too deep, my love ♪
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