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I roll out of bed
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through my clothes in my mind.
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Oh yeah.
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Danny Johnson has been the guitarist for
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some of the biggest names in rock and
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roll, touring the world and leaving his
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mark on legendary stages alongside
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iconic artists and top bands.
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a world-class musician at the heart of
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some rock history, but also an artist
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who has consistently written, performed,
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and produced his own music on his own
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terms, building a body of solo work that
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reflects his true creative spirit and
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legacy.
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from Danny Johnson. I've always liked
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his playing, so I sound kind of funny,
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but he kind of reminds me of me in a
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Reckless abandoned kind of playing. Uh,
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but he's kind of a cross between me,
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Alan Holsworth, and himself, you know,
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and he's very blues oriented. And I I
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love his playing.
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back from a car.
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>> Well, I was born there, so I didn't know
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anything different.
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I just love Louisiana, you know. I live
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in Texas now near Austin, but uh
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Louisiana
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and you know the hay rod, it goes back
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to the hay rod. Elvis Presley lived
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there.
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Levi and the Rockets lived there.
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Everybody played the hay rod. I mean, it
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was before my time, but you know, Johnny
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Cash started there. Elvis Elvis used to
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open up for Hank Williams.
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Heat. Heat.
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I think I was about 11 and um there was
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a babysitter and and she said, "If I'm
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going to babysit, by the way, I got five
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brothers. One of them passed away, but
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there were six of us then." and she
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said, "If I'm going to babysit all these
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boys,
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I'm going to put the TV on the at
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Sullivan tonight and watch the Beatles."
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And we had been watching the commercials
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and we look at those sissies with long
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hair. They had shorts and ties and we we
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thought they were sissies.
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And then when when they came on and I
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saw those girls screaming, that was it,
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man.
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You know, I had the fever. I knew what I
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wanted to do. I just didn't know how to
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do it.
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I had another cousin that was, you know,
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he was more of a playboy, you know, and
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he kept getting stuck in the mud and
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asking my daddy to pull him out cuz he
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was back then they called it parking or
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sparking or whatever, right? And uh so
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he got stuck and he asked my daddy, "Can
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you come get me out to Lake Piston?" He
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said, "That's 60 miles. I got to drive a
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winch truck all the way out there to get
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your ass. And I've done this before. So
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if I do it, you're going to teach that
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boy how to play guitar."
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And so that that was my early lesson.
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Back to nor
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back down to the bones
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hands
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to the original,
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>> you know, we were 15, 16 years old. We
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couldn't get in. Well, we'd get dropped
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off and uh we'd sit out in the front of
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the clubs and listen to Jerry Beach at
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the Kims and we'd go listen to the
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Whiskey Go, listen to the bands out in
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front. We couldn't get in. But after the
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clubs, after they finished playing, Dad
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come out and we'd get to meet the guys
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in the band. And that's where we met
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Jerry Beach because that guy was really
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good back in the day. That's what we're
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all learning from. You know, he he got
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Danny started and playing all that good
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rock and roll. When u Jerry Beach wrote
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the uh I play the blues for you, it
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freaked us all out. Even Susie Q that
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all those songs right there were our
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local guys and they were pretty famous
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and they really did real good for all
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the musicians because we got the feel we
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felt that we wanted we said okay look we
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want to do that we want to do that we
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want to do what they do
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>> but I came in to visit one time and he
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his little band that he had Axis
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was performing at Kim's and I went to
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see him and that's when I realized that
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my brother was very talented,
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you know, and then of course he he just
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got better and better.
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Beck Paige,
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um Blackmore,
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um and of course James Burton. I mean, I
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I I had a
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dinner with Jeff Beck one night at the
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Rainbow. Well, he came up and said, "Can
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I sit at your table?" I didn't even know
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him. I said, "Why?" He said, "Cuz you
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got all the girls at your table." And so
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we sat and talked and and he told I
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asked him, "Who inspired you?" And he
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said, "James Burton
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from Streetport, Louisiana."
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>> Yeah.
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>> He started it all. him and Steve Croft.
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Well, I woke up this morning by myself.
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hit the ground running.
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I was thinking about something you said
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someone made me trip and fall into a
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stone
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to run
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away with you.
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You know spot me.
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Call my blues.
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There was a little place called sugar.
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Dancing in the front, fighting in the
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back. Everybody's drinking and having a
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good time.
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I want you to rumble
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rumble with you.
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You know you spark me.
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You call my blues.
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Well, Darkhorse
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was one of the top when I was a kid. It
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was the Blue Shadows first
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>> and then a band called Rain with Pat
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Huddleston that was like traffic. I mean
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these these were world class bands that
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never made it. And then
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>> when Blue Shadows broke up, some of the
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members formed a band called Darkhorse.
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And
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you know, I never dreamed that I would
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wind up in that band, but I did. Me and
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Jay, we went until we were playing a
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club one night on the Bojer Strip. I
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think it was Kim's.
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And
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the cops came in and busted us and
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busted the bass player. It was a John
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Doe. They didn't even know his name.
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>> and so
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it kind of killed the band.
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>> The club owner told us to get the hell
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out. It emptied the room when they came.
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They walked on the stage and I they
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looked like me or a rocker or something.
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I said, "Do you want to jam or
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something?" And he flashed the bench and
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said, "Keep your mouth shut." And the
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other guitar player wouldn't stop
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talking. And
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>> and so
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>> I looked and the whole audience was
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gone. And the club owner's name was Red.
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He had red hair. And when he walked up
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there, his head was so red. He said,
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"Get out of here and never come back."
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So that was the end of that gig.
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>> You know, we we want to be the cream.
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You know, we we want a drummer. That's
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>> who do you know? Do you know Carmine Ay?
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She said, "Yeah, but you can't get him."
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but he's got a little brother. He's 17.
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Do you have his phone number? And she
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gave me his number. I was in Houston. We
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had already been to Austin looking for
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drummers. We we talked to Bubble Puppies
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drummer.
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We went to Houston. We auditioned
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drummers. And when we started playing,
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they most of them we were kind of a
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bluesy rock version of Rush
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without without all the high singing and
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and yeah, but
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I called Vinnie and um he said, "Yeah, I
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heard about you guys
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uh from this girl named Georgia." I
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said, "Good."
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He said, "What do you want?" I said,
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"Well,
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I want a star drummer
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like the crane. When do you want me
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there?" And that was what got him.
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>> They were looking for a drummer and
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someone recommended, of course, Benny
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Apey. And Vinnie flew in and to audition
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with the band. And I was with Danny the
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day that we went to the airport to pick
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Vinnie up. He was I think he was only 17
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or 18 years old.
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>> I'll have drums for you. We'll we'll fly
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you down here. And he came to the union
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hall.
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I had my brother's drums. He broke this
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snare drum in half. I mean, it literally
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I'd never seen anybody break drums.
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And um
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he played a couple of songs. He said,
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"Let me go in office and make a phone
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call." He went in there and he called
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his mother and said,
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"Or whoever, send my drums down here."
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And so
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that was the axis that landed the RCA
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deal. And Vinnie became a big part of it
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with the arrangements and
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and just just the sound and everything.
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And we got Andy John's to produce us.
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She had just done Stairway to Heaven and
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we did it at the record plant, you know,
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we had a real budget, you know, from
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borrowing people's tape recorders to
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getting a $100,000 budget, you know, and
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then uh Led Zeppelin had just done
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Stairway to Heaven in Studio C at the
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record plant and we started off there
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and it burned in
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>> and so we had to go to New York to the
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other record plan. For once, we had all
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the best of everything.
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And um
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I was sad that that album didn't have a
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you know, radio hit. We we we didn't
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have the money for promotion and we
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didn't get a good tour. Agency problems,
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management problems. They're the ones
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that make all that happen.
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>> I I think it went like this. you know, I
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might not have it to the tea, but he
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told me that he was in a in a hotel room
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and someone knocked on her door and when
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he looked through the peepphole, they
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were holding up the Axis album and he
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opened the door and it was Tony. He
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said, "This is good."
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>> And then Rick Daringer
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called my house
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and said uh to my mother, "Hi, this is
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Rick Daringer. I want to talk to Vinnie.
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This is funny. My mother said, "Oh, no,
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no, you want to talk to Carmine,
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right?" So, no. He says, "No, I want to
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talk to Vinnie."
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And she said it again. "You want to talk
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to Car?" He said, "No, I know Carmine.
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He's my friend. I want to talk to
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Vinnie. I'm starting a new band and I'm
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thinking of using Vinnie in the band."
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So, Vinnie got in and uh and then I
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guess Vinnie brought Danny in and didn't
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bring Kenny. Uh, I didn't bring Jay
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because they already had Kenny Aronson.
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So then that started the band Daringer
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in which Rick took him out on tour and
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they opened up for Aerosmith and
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Stadiums and my brother was still in
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high school. It sounded great and Danny
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was, you know, playing with Rick and
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doing guitar exchanges with Rick and,
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you know, Rick is a great player. So
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Danny, he he held up pretty good against
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Rick, you know. This is Danny Johnson.
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Who is this? This is Steve Paul calling
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from New York City.
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And I knew all about him. He managed
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Rick. He managed Johnny and Edgar, David
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Johansson, everybody. And he had them
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all on his own record company called
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Blue Sky Records, distributed by CBS.
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And I said, "Yeah, what can I do for
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you?" He said, "Rick really likes your
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playing. We want you to come to New
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York." I go, "Well, I kind of have a
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band. I'm the main writer. Is there
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really room for me? If you do this, I'll
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make sure you get at least one song on
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every album, maybe two, and get to sing
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a little."
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>> Uh, okay. I'm more interested now. He
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said, "Uh, I've already bought your
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tickets. You leave tomorrow at 2:00.
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The limo will pick you up at Laguadia."
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And I'm like, I'm just a little hick
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from Shreport. I never wrote in a limo.
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And then when we got to SIR studios to
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start rehearsing, Johnny Winter was in
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one room, David Bowie was in one room,
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and I'm like, "Wow." You know, I would
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say to Rick, "When are we going to take
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another break?" Cuz I would I would go
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invade their rooms, you know, like like
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I'd go over to Johnny's room and watch
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him. And long as you clap for them and
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say something good, you're okay. You
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know, the thing I regret about our
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musical relationship was we never
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co-wrote a song.
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I mean,
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he he helped my like driving sideways.
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Steve Paul would take us to see punk
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music and all this music that we didn't
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even like. But he wanted us to know
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there's other things out there. And they
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took me to see Bob Marley. I don't like
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Ray Gay. I'm 19year-old rocker. I like
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Led Zeppelin. Take me to Aerrol Smith.
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But when I watched Bob Marley, that
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hypnotic music and that rhythm,
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I thought, what if I wrote a song that
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has like a real heavy riff and in the
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verses it goes sort of into a reggae
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rhythm? And I told Rick that. He said,
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"Oh god, that's great idea." And uh
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so he came up with the the baseline.
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And Rick was a good bass player.
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>> I mean, if you play guitar, you have to
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be able to play bass a little bit. When
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I when we talk about Daringer,
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>> you can't leave out Liz Daringer.
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>> She did so much for me.
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She's still with us, right?
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>> Anyhow, she took me to get rock clothes.
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She taught me how to hail a cab. She
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taught me how to ride a subway. She
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taught me how to be a New Yorker. And
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boy, was she a New Yorker.
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And I just reached out to her yesterday
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and told her, you know, I've always
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loved you and I always will because Rick
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was introverted
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and Liz was the one that knew everybody.
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I mean, not just the rockers.
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I met people through her. Truman Capot,
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Andy Warhol, movie stars. I mean, when
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we played gigs in New York, we opened
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for Aerrol Smith for two nights at
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Madison Square Gardens.
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Sold out. But when we went in the
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dressing room,
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Hall of Notes was in there,
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John Belalushi, just went on and on and
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on. And all those people went over to
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Rick's house to party.
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and
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and then Aerosmith showed up at Rick's
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house and and he had a brownstone
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in near the village on 13th Street. So
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it wasn't that big, but he had a little
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studio in the back and I was so
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overwhelmed I just went out there by
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myself. I just, you know, and so when I
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went out there to play, John Belalushi
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came out and said, "Hey, can I jam with
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you?" Yeah. And then Steven Tyler said,
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"Hey, can I play drums?" and somebody
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was on the piano and David Johansson
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when he wasn't passed out he was playing
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harmonica.
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I I mean I was tapping a long time ago
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but not like Eddie Rick Daringer called
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me in a frantic Danny Danny have you
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read Eddie's book? No, no, no. He said I
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stole the tapping from him, but I got
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that from you in the mid70s,
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right? I said, "Right, Rick's another
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one I'd take a bullet for.
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Whatever he wanted it, he got." And he
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was so mad that Eddie, you know, Eddie
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could be a punk. He said, "Yeah, Rick
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Daring copied me. He went on tour with
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us and I did my solo and the next night
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he was doing all the same stuff.
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Rick's a guitar machine.
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Dancing on the edge of town.
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Shing for tips, but there's no one
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around. And the Bless
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have been blown away.
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Her hopes and dreams left through
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yesterday.
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Restless
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in this one lost town.
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Tries to move on. She's back around.
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Her sights were set on London's royal
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valley.
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Paris in New York all along the way.
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Her friends are shed when she made it to
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the top.
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They landed for her right back to the
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bed. Tougher than any
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I
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should get back in the cell. Keep the
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dust off for
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se like a dark horse on the road. Glory
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like angels leave a blind in the sun
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keeps her faith in Jesus and she don't
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forget to pray seven sister heart
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away
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like I had said before we we toured the
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country four months on the road so we
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got to know him so one day I get a call
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and it's Brad Whitford and I'm in
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California with actually no agenda. Hey
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Brad, what's up? And he was himh hauling
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around. Well, you know, we hadn't
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getting been getting along with Joe real
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good. Really? Well, y'all can work that
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out. No, that's not going to work out.
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You want to come to New York and jam
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with us?
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Uh, sure.
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Can we make that happen?
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when can you get here? Tomorrow. They
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put me in, you know, fancy plaza or
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something like that.
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>> I just remember it was nice. And and I
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said, "What what do we do next?" They
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said, "Every everybody's sleeping at
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3:00 in the afternoon."
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Like if I hung out with one member
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and his wife,
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I'd go over to talk to them. What are
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you hanging out with them for? In other
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words, they they had gone completely
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dysfunctional
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>> and and they had their wives with them
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all the time and it was none of them
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were getting along. We we would come
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back to the hotel at 7 and so we had two
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days set up to rehearse at sir and
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Stephen you know Joe I didn't think
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about it but Joe Perry sings the main
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harmony and he can't sing very high so
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he sings under he sings under instead of
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a major third or a fifth over he would
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sing like a fifth under And that's that
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sound. And I didn't think to practice
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that.
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I mean, while while I'm putting the
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guitar on, nervous as hell, standing 4
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in from Stephen Tyler, he's going,
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"Stephen
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at the first gig. If this doesn't go
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well, I'm quitting." I'm going, "Wow,
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that's great inspiration. Thank you,
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Joey. You piece of [ __ ] mother."
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And Jimmy got the gig. And
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in hindsight,
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I'm I'm glad he did because I I wound up
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in a band with with Jimmy. It was me,
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Jimmy, Kenny Aronson, Carmine Ay, and
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And we were doing this sort of raw
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experience thing. And so I asked him how
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it went. Jimmy's very disciplined guy,
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you know. I think he maybe drinks a
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little vodka.
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and he said, "Danny,
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it would have killed you." The last time
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I talked to Brad, I was in LA and him
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and Tom called and said, "Would would
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are you still going to meetings?" I
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said, "Yes, I am." And I was sober and
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and they said, "Would you take us to
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one?"
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And my car wouldn't start.
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They said, "We're at the Palms waiting
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on the side of the thing for you." I
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said, "My my car won't start. It's up at
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Doug Figer's house.
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The bandits." Well,
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after Daringer, I was in Shreport and I
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went into a club or something and ran
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into a friend of mine, a drummer, good
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drummer, Glenn Graves.
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And he said, "You want to come over
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after?" Yeah. And he said,
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"Why don't you do a solo thing?" I had
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never thought about it.
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In other words, I didn't know what I was
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going to do next. I was just going to
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look try to find another big gig if
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there was another one out there. It's
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not like they grow on trees. But, um, he
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he he kind of inspired me and
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I've been
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down.
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Oh my
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god.
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Happy birthday.
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Thank you.
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Hallelujah.
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Nothing.
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Nothing.
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I actually wrote that in California with
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it playing drums walking through the
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park.
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And so we had a drummer
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and he was so busy we when we produced
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it. I think you were there Posasha and
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helped produce. We had to take all his
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drums and symbols
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>> away from him, you know, cuz he wouldn't
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stop. And he's very successful now. J
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Shell and he plays for Yes. And I took
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all his drums away from him. I can't get
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him on the phone anymore. No. But then
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we overdubbed the the floor times and um
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and then we shot the video in Shreport.
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We had a big following and told them,
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"Hey, we're going to do a video here.
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Anybody wants to be on the video?" And
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uh so we packed the house and thought we
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were playing the whiskey and the
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starwood and you know all the places
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going to make you feel
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in my dream.
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>> I actually played with him at the same
535
00:31:48,159 --> 00:31:49,840
time.
536
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,399
didn't go over well.
537
00:31:52,399 --> 00:31:54,559
>> I played with him at the same time cuz
538
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:58,080
Rod was more of a day guy and he had
539
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,000
children and he like to quit rehearsals.
540
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,600
We were rehearsing for a tour I think
541
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,519
and
542
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:09,440
he liked to quit at about 5, which is
543
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,399
happy hour. would go up and drink and he
544
00:32:12,399 --> 00:32:16,480
had his own bar and bartender and then
545
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,360
I'd go home. Sometimes the phone would
546
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,200
ring. Hello. Hey Danny, it's Alice. Can
547
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,480
you come over? God, I just got back.
548
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,559
It's okay. And I'd go over there and
549
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:30,799
we'd start at midnight and go till 10:00
550
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:32,799
in the morning and then I'd sometimes
551
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:34,720
drive straight to the record plant to
552
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,880
rod session.
553
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,320
And everything was going good until he
554
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,320
found me in the room with my guitar and
555
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,919
everything. I was laying on my back
556
00:32:43,919 --> 00:32:47,919
asleep at a Rod Stewart session. He
557
00:32:47,919 --> 00:32:50,080
said, "I got two other guitar players."
558
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,279
So, me getting guitar players is not
559
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:55,519
much of a problem. Putting three guitar
560
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:57,919
players, two from England and one from
561
00:32:57,919 --> 00:33:01,120
Louisiana, and all heavy drinkers. I
562
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,559
didn't drink back then or do nothing.
563
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:09,039
And the the one of Rod's
564
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:12,720
sidekicks called me and said, "You know,
565
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,799
um, you need to drink with us." I said,
566
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:19,200
"Jim, you guys are all alcoholics." He
567
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,200
said, "It's just the first year that's a
568
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,360
little rough. You'll get used to it."
569
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,120
And
570
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,960
so I I didn't fit in. In other words, I
571
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,840
could do the music. And Rod liked me to
572
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,120
play the acoustic. He he said, "Would
573
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,600
you play the acoustic on my some of my
574
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,200
hits because I like your strum."
575
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,200
And and so I I played acoustics and had
576
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,120
about five guitars. I played the Les
577
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,760
Paul and you know on some of the heavy
578
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,440
stuff and um
579
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,840
it was a great experience.
580
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,840
I gotta tell you, I enjoyed working with
581
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,840
Alice way more because
582
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,480
for one thing, he was
583
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,360
super nice. You know, he would come to
584
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,679
the studio and he would, "Hey,
585
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:13,200
gentlemen." Whereas Rod Stewart, he
586
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,480
would take us to the Leon or some or
587
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,960
something next door as a bar. We'd get
588
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,000
shitfaced. He Let's go back and record.
589
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,599
And and we would record something. And
590
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:26,879
he'd go, "Man, this is so good. This is"
591
00:34:26,879 --> 00:34:29,040
And he'd be on his microphone. Rock it,
592
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,960
baby. Rock it. You know, we're just
593
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,240
cranking and cranking and cranking.
594
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:35,599
We're all drunk. And the next day, I
595
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:39,040
walk in the studio. And he's like,
596
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,599
>> "Oh god, a band member."
597
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:44,159
>> You know what I mean? Like,
598
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:45,679
you want to hear something that really
599
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:48,320
sounds like [ __ ] Come in here, guys.
600
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,399
And he put the thing. You told us we
601
00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:54,000
were great. You told us it was a tape.
602
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Of course, I didn't say that.
603
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,800
>> Richie Podler.
604
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,040
>> Oh god.
605
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,920
>> He's another one. He produced everybody
606
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,560
out of the 60s on the West Coast, you
607
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,599
know, from Three Dog Night, Stein Wolf.
608
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:19,920
>> It goes on and on and on. But I did a
609
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,839
bunch of albums with him and I brought
610
00:35:21,839 --> 00:35:24,880
him some albums. I brought him Alcatraz.
611
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,040
And um I loved him. He was just great.
612
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,280
But he was producing he he told Alice
613
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,680
he told Alice, "I'm going to get this
614
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,920
guy over here and he's not going to
615
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,640
smoke your coke. He won't do that with
616
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,200
you. Not not at a session." And so,
617
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,760
>> uh, I came over and we we started doing
618
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,599
the album and I I had to literally erase
619
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:55,760
over some of the other parts and I hated
620
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,280
doing it cuz some of them were my
621
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,240
friends, but they didn't they you got to
622
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:04,000
do it. And um,
623
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,520
I probably had it done to me, too. But
624
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,520
um
625
00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:14,880
he he he wanted me to join his band and
626
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,280
he wanted me to help lead the band. I
627
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,079
said, "Why? Why me?" He said, "I don't
628
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:22,480
like to be the bad guy. I just want to
629
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,880
tell you what to tell them." I said,
630
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,680
"I'm with Rod." And he was practicing
631
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,800
with these ice picks for his next tour.
632
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,880
and he had a bullseye thing out there
633
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,040
because Richie used to likes to shoot
634
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,079
guns in the studio and bow and arrows.
635
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:43,760
So, we had a big thing, you know, and uh
636
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,760
he said, "What do I have to do? Go do
637
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,079
this to Rod Stewart and then take my ice
638
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:50,480
picks to him." And that's like the
639
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,160
biggest compliment I ever got from
640
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,680
Roxar. You know, I remember Alice saying
641
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,480
a couple of things like,
642
00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:04,160
"Stop sitting down." Okay. I stood up.
643
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,400
He said, "How loud does that amp go?" I
644
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,599
said, "It goes to 10. Turn it to 12."
645
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:13,920
And and when you play, I want to see it.
646
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,200
I go, "We're in the studio.
647
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,240
I can focus better." He said, "My people
648
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,640
know the difference.
649
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,240
they know the difference between a
650
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:26,640
studio musician and a rocker.
651
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,200
>> You stand up and rock. So, I had to, you
652
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,359
know, not only play the part, but, you
653
00:37:33,359 --> 00:37:36,560
know, move and shake and
654
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,200
but but he's so theatrical and I love
655
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,000
that about him. I love it, you know.
656
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000
>> Yeah. Everybody I mean, the cream were
657
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,560
good what, 40 years ago. I mean, how do
658
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,320
you top that?
659
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,240
>> But
660
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:55,119
Ever since I was a kid, I you know, I
661
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:59,040
like theatrics. You know what else?
662
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,400
Well, there's a bass player and there's
663
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,200
two guitar players and a drummer. Yeah.
664
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,480
So is 40 million bands.
665
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,720
What else?
666
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:46,480
Do you remember the back seat at the
667
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,800
Stop driving
668
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,079
back in those days. We were just getting
669
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:56,320
started. Playing all night with the kids
670
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,480
in the dark.
671
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,800
Time
672
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,079
it starts with art.
673
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:10,400
Remember the best calls and racing.
674
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,359
Well, after midnight
675
00:39:13,359 --> 00:39:15,440
something new.
676
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,440
through the days of Vietnam.
677
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:26,280
I remember all this still in this mind.
678
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,280
Let's go back
679
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,400
when we were young.
680
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,880
Let's go back
681
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,839
where we come from.
682
00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:46,960
We take our shoes off. I was alone
683
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:52,079
fighting battles that could be won
684
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:56,280
when we were young.
685
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,320
Heat. Heat.
686
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,839
When we were young,
687
00:40:41,839 --> 00:40:45,480
living like
688
00:40:45,839 --> 00:40:48,480
let's go back
689
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,440
where we come from.
690
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:56,400
We take our shoes off all summer long.
691
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:01,680
We're fighting battles that could be won
692
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,800
when we were young.
693
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,240
I'm trying to get back out there. And he
694
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:21,839
said, "Well, you know, Alcatraz just
695
00:41:21,839 --> 00:41:24,000
lost the guitar."
696
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,960
Who who's Alcatraz? Well, they just lost
697
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,640
Steve. Who's Steve?
698
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,119
Well, he replaced Ding V. Wingnut. What?
699
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:39,760
And and so I didn't know who these guys
700
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,760
were. If I would have, I would have
701
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,200
said, I'm probably not your guy. They
702
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,960
said, Danny,
703
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,960
that Marshall 100 with that one bottom
704
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,720
is not going to cut it. You need two or
705
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:52,880
three. In the rehearsal room, Graham's
706
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,680
not even using monitors, but he could
707
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,880
sing over the sound, marshalls and
708
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,880
everything with no monitors. His neck, I
709
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,839
mean, he's a real singer and a lovely
710
00:42:05,839 --> 00:42:10,800
guy. I love that man. And his lyrics, I
711
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,599
used to write with him.
712
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:15,599
I remember the first day, they said,
713
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:19,040
"The guitar player's more the leader
714
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,720
than Grant." I said, "Okay."
715
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:24,960
And so they said, "You're going to start
716
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,760
writing the guitar player." Graham only
717
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,960
writes with the guitar player. And you
718
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,760
start tomorrow. I said, "Okay." So I
719
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,920
called him up. I said, "I'm going to
720
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,560
head your way. Is there anything I can
721
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,800
get you?" And they said, "Whatever you
722
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,920
do, don't bring him beer."
723
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,160
And I said, "Is there anything I can get
724
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,640
you?" He said, "Yeah, I need some
725
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,160
Pampers
726
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,000
for my kid and some cigarettes."
727
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,040
Oh, yeah. And a six-pack.
728
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,040
>> And I I got the six-pack. And my my
729
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,920
theory was I'm not going to work with an
730
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,400
alcoholic Jonesing. You know what I'm
731
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,319
saying?
732
00:43:08,319 --> 00:43:11,319
So
733
00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:14,800
>> the next day the guys heard Graham said,
734
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,400
"Y'all wrote two complete songs
735
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,359
yesterday. How did you do it?" But I
736
00:43:19,359 --> 00:43:23,480
never told them I took the six-pack.
737
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,200
It was like hanging out with Mozart, you
738
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,000
know? I would be like two or three feet
739
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,800
from him
740
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,880
when he's playing a guitar, you know, I
741
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,119
would say, "Hey, show me what you want
742
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:48,160
me to do." And he would play something
743
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:53,280
that was way out of my toolbox.
744
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,040
And um his finesse, he played very light
745
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,000
with light strings and so did Steve Vi.
746
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,000
I worked with him a little bit. He
747
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,520
helped rehearse me into Alcatra.
748
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,520
But Eddie,
749
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,119
you know, we were both going through
750
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:13,520
some stuff with drugs and alcohol and so
751
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,200
I was going to AAS and CAS and anything
752
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,359
with an A on the end of it. And
753
00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:23,839
so
754
00:44:23,839 --> 00:44:27,040
I I got him going to this special place
755
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,839
that Doug Figer had that was rock stars
756
00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:33,839
only. And he really liked that meeting.
757
00:44:33,839 --> 00:44:36,560
I mean, uh, I don't want to name names,
758
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,359
but everybody was there. Everybody I
759
00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:40,800
mean, if you walked in the room, you go,
760
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,400
"Oh, yeah. I know him. I know him." And
761
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,200
but anonymity, so I don't want to do
762
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,720
that. But, uh,
763
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:53,119
somebody brought their nephew and he
764
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:55,359
shared and he said, "I stood in line at
765
00:44:55,359 --> 00:44:57,839
the DMV today and it made me want to
766
00:44:57,839 --> 00:45:03,920
use." And when we left, Eddie said,
767
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,440
"My
768
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,240
dad died at 53. I don't want to die at
769
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:10,160
53.
770
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,240
I don't want to hear stuff like that.
771
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:17,480
You know,
772
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:21,680
what's my bottom out?" I know, Eddie,
773
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,079
you you you got all your money. You're
774
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:25,760
famous,
775
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,640
but you might not wake up one morning.
776
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,040
But
777
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:36,880
he his theory was he Danny life is not a
778
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,000
[ __ ] it's a beach. That was his
779
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,800
slogan. Life is a beach. And he
780
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,839
basically gave the world all this
781
00:45:45,839 --> 00:45:49,280
incredible music and incredible guitar
782
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:54,480
playing, but it killed him.
783
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,640
I mean, because
784
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,560
he always wanted to be in a good mood.
785
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,319
Sometimes it's hard to be in a good mood
786
00:46:00,319 --> 00:46:03,040
without a little enhancement,
787
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,359
but
788
00:46:05,359 --> 00:46:08,640
that enhancement
789
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,480
is the beginning of the end. Usually,
790
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,680
so many people
791
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,319
I was friends with Valerie,
792
00:46:18,319 --> 00:46:21,920
but with Eddie, I would do anything for
793
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,800
him. He would call me at 3:00 in the
794
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,160
morning, say, "I've been with you
795
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,079
producing songs and working on the
796
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:30,319
album."
797
00:46:30,319 --> 00:46:32,880
Ring, ring, ring. It's Valerie. Have you
798
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,920
been with Eddie tonight? Yes.
799
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,720
I lied for him.
800
00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:40,720
He said, "Bring beer and put it in the
801
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:43,440
bushes." I did that.
802
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,240
Anything he asked.
803
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:49,200
and anything.
804
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,920
You know, there was one on one I had a
805
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,760
problem
806
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,599
and I don't want to talk about what it
807
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:58,640
was, but it was kind of expensive
808
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,839
and I didn't.
809
00:47:01,839 --> 00:47:03,200
He called me. He said, "Well, I'm so
810
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,440
gloomy. I I got a problem." He said,
811
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,920
"Come come over to house." And he shook
812
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,960
my hand with $5,000 in it. Says, "Now go
813
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,520
put your fix your problem.
814
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,160
>> You need more." That's the kind of guy
815
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,240
he was. He was constantly trying to help
816
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:21,359
guitar players that were struggling.
817
00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:23,680
He did that with Allan Hollesworth. He
818
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,880
did that with some other guys.
819
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,760
>> I remember one day
820
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,440
we were trying to Eddie was trying to
821
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:36,000
get us a a rocking solo out of me and
822
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,359
Ted was right there and you know it was
823
00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:42,240
just I was just
824
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:46,400
not there yet. And Ted said, "Eddie,
825
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,520
see they had been separated from each
826
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,160
other. Ted and
827
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:56,720
>> and Eddie and and Don Landy and Eddie
828
00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:59,040
were producing the records." So that
829
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,440
kind of got them back together. And
830
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,240
Templeman said, "Eddie,
831
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:06,960
would you play some guitar for us?" And
832
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,599
Eddie just picked up the guitar and just
833
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:13,760
he just started playing. It's just like
834
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,000
you know,
835
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,880
>> unbelievable.
836
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,200
I I called him monkey fingers cuz he
837
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,839
played with not just
838
00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:27,599
>> the back of his hand, the side of his
839
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:31,280
hands, tapping, hitting. It's like
840
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,200
unbelievable.
841
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,440
I I I remember one time
842
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,800
>> he walked out of the room and I'm like
843
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,880
and I just started noodling
844
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,079
>> and then he turned around and walked
845
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:46,720
right back. What are you doing?
846
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:50,400
I go I'm just doing a bunch of cliches.
847
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,480
What What do you call that? I don't
848
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,440
know. The shreport sound. That's who you
849
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,720
are. Quit trying to copy me and Steve
850
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:03,280
Vi. I got news for you.
851
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,280
You'll never You'll never top that.
852
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,359
But why do you think we do all those
853
00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:11,040
tricks and stuff? We don't come from
854
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,880
Louisiana. We don't have soul like that.
855
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,119
And I went over to the side to watch
856
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:20,400
watch him play. And I thought I heard my
857
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,240
name.
858
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:24,880
I thought I And the roadie tapped me on
859
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,200
the shoulder said, "Sammy Sammy, he's
860
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,040
calling you out there."
861
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,880
What? At the Kingdome in Seattle? That's
862
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,400
like what 60,000 people or something.
863
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,119
And uh
864
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:41,200
and and
865
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,599
they want me out there. And I said, "Do
866
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:46,160
Zeke, is there anything you got
867
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,240
anything?" You know, and Sammy said,
868
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:52,400
"Bottom drawer, Jack Daniels." And
869
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,160
and then Sammy comes over there. I go,
870
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,079
"I got no guitar, Sammy." And he took
871
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:57,920
his guitar off and threw it on me. said,
872
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,200
"Get your ass out here." What song? The
873
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,319
Who. What song by The Who. They never
874
00:50:04,319 --> 00:50:06,160
told me. They just It went into my
875
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,160
generation.
876
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,520
And then I was standing back by Alex
877
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,480
kind of groovven on him. I had no idea
878
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,680
he was as good as he was. I mean, when
879
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,079
people referred to Van Halen, the people
880
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:23,680
behind the scenes, they don't call him
881
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,400
Van Halen. They call them the brothers
882
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,079
Eddie and Alex. And so
883
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:33,359
it was like Charlie Watts,
884
00:50:33,359 --> 00:50:35,280
John Bonham,
885
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,400
everything mixed in one. And Eddie and
886
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,319
Sammy kept saying, "Come up here with
887
00:50:40,319 --> 00:50:43,200
us." And I'm going, "I'm okay back
888
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,040
here." Kind of like you're the stars.
889
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,359
And you better come up here with us.
890
00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:53,839
And they were very adamant about it. and
891
00:50:53,839 --> 00:50:56,160
and and I said, "No, I'm staying here."
892
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,960
And a bomb blew off and I was standing
893
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,559
right over it, you know, kaboom and and
894
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:04,880
oh god. And it literally knocked me like
895
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,720
this.
896
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:09,680
And then Eddie got said, "Go over
897
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,960
there." Eddie could be like Spanky or
898
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,040
Alpha Alpha.
899
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,680
He liked pulling pranks on people. He
900
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,280
said, "Why don't you go over there?" And
901
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,280
boom, I get blown off. And Sammy says,
902
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,800
"Go over there." And the pyro technical
903
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,599
guys were ran backstage to see if I
904
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:31,359
needed medical an ambulance. And they
905
00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:34,079
said, "I'm sorry, Danny, but we have
906
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:37,920
orders from the director." And he says,
907
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,920
"Do you want us to blow?" Danny
908
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,000
Johnson's standing right over the thing.
909
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,920
It's time to blow. Just go ahead and
910
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,800
blow.
911
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,400
Here he is again. It's coming up. 10
912
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,119
nine. No, the Danny's still standing
913
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:55,119
there and boom. I mean, must have
914
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:57,440
happened four times. My hair, my face
915
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,760
was black. And when I walked in that
916
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,040
dressing room, Van Halen were every one
917
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,800
of them. They were laughing their ass
918
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,520
off. You know, it's like, when are you
919
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,800
going to ask me if I'm okay?
920
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,640
But but Eddie used to do stuff like
921
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,319
that. He did an interview once with
922
00:52:14,319 --> 00:52:16,800
Guitar Magazine.
923
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,559
I don't know. I probably shouldn't tell
924
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:20,640
this, but This is it. This is where the
925
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:21,040
tail.
926
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,280
>> Hey, you know, they were asking him h
927
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,200
how many tubes you use, what kind of
928
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,920
tubes, your power soak, what do you set
929
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,559
it on, how do you get this sound, that
930
00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:35,839
sound, and I read the interview.
931
00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:38,640
He was letting me use his rig when he
932
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,119
produced me. So, I I knew everything
933
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:45,440
about his rig. And I said, "Nothing you
934
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,760
put in there is what you really do."
935
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,160
And as a matter of fact, some of the
936
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,000
stuff in there is going to blow out
937
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,960
amps. He said, "Well,
938
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,680
I'm not giving away my trade secrets."
939
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,920
And he slaved over those secrets. He was
940
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,160
a tonechaser.
941
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,400
Overly nice to me. So temp but but I
942
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,079
would have taken a bullet for him.
943
00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:15,359
>> I probably died a
944
00:53:15,359 --> 00:53:17,839
>> and as a matter of fact I got ran out of
945
00:53:17,839 --> 00:53:22,319
there because um
946
00:53:22,319 --> 00:53:24,400
you know
947
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,559
usually you have to watch the gates to
948
00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:29,359
make sure
949
00:53:29,359 --> 00:53:31,680
you know Valerie doesn't come in if
950
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,240
you're doing something you shouldn't do.
951
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:37,440
And Eddie kept he had a little bit of
952
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,319
coke and he kept begging me here do some
953
00:53:40,319 --> 00:53:42,480
of this man, you know, cuz he was more
954
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,200
of a drinker back then. And he just did
955
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,319
a little of that to keep him awake. No,
956
00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:50,720
no, no, no. If if I'm going to do some
957
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:53,680
of that, I I I was
958
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,640
more injured drugs at that at that
959
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,440
point. I've been disciplined all my
960
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,839
life. And then
961
00:54:01,839 --> 00:54:05,040
I don't know after my marriage busted up
962
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,079
years and years and years with nobody
963
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:11,040
policing me, you know. So I said, "No,
964
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,880
I'm not going to do a line with you
965
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,040
unless you give it all to me." And he
966
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,280
said, "Here." And he handed it to me. We
967
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,680
weren't watching the gates. I put it up
968
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,599
to my nose. The door opens. It's
969
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:23,599
Valerie.
970
00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:25,680
And she said, "You know my husband's a
971
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,559
drug addict and an alcoholic. Don't you,
972
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:30,720
Danny?
973
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:32,559
Yeah,
974
00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:36,520
I guess this is goodbye.
975
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:40,280
>> And that was it.
976
00:54:49,359 --> 00:54:52,839
That's the fire.
977
00:55:12,319 --> 00:55:13,760
So, you want to know about Danny
978
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,400
Johnson, huh? I think the first time I
979
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,119
was aware of Danny was around 1980. Uh,
980
00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:21,119
I saw Danny Johnson and the Bandits at
981
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:23,520
the Whiskey, and I remember thinking,
982
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,640
"Holy [ __ ] this is a very good guitar
983
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,880
player." I mean, I I knew I had been
984
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,800
around very good guitar players before
985
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,000
then, and I recognized that in Danny.
986
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,520
Then I probably ran into him again
987
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,960
around 1986 when he was playing with
988
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,800
Alcatraz. My very good friend Jimmy
989
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,599
Waldo was the founder of the band and uh
990
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:46,240
Danny was staying at Jimmy's house. I
991
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:48,319
remember going over to Jimmy's one night
992
00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:50,640
and Jimmy and I were working on a song.
993
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,040
We wrote songs together and Danny was
994
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,960
there and I said, "Hey man, would you
995
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,599
play a solo?" and he grabbed I think I
996
00:55:57,599 --> 00:56:01,040
was rocking a pig nose or something man
997
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,000
I had some strat and first time through
998
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,960
man he laid down this beautifully
999
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,480
melodic
1000
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,880
screaming solo and that's when I knew
1001
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,240
that wow this guy is a really good
1002
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:16,720
guitar player then a couple years later
1003
00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:20,240
Danny uh joins Private Life
1004
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:23,119
and he's being produced by uh Edward Van
1005
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:26,000
Halen whom I knew from
1006
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,319
Way back in 1977,
1007
00:56:28,319 --> 00:56:30,559
I was actually writing a book about uh
1008
00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:32,079
Edward at the time, a book that would
1009
00:56:32,079 --> 00:56:34,880
later come out called Tonechaser. And um
1010
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,359
I knew that if Edward was spending time
1011
00:56:37,359 --> 00:56:40,640
with a band and a guitar player, that
1012
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,640
this had to be an amazing band. And they
1013
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,119
were. Uh Danny was incredible. He sort
1014
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:47,440
of straddled that classic rock thing,
1015
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,799
that kind of that amazing melodic thing
1016
00:56:50,799 --> 00:56:53,520
that Jeff Beck had with a more, you
1017
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,280
know, ripping kind of thing that that
1018
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,920
Paige had and uh, you know, some of the
1019
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,680
more modern guitar players. An
1020
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,920
incredibly good guitar player. Uh,
1021
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,000
probably undersung, you know, and then
1022
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,079
he'd become part of Steen Wolf and and
1023
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:08,720
play all those incredible Steen Wolf
1024
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:12,000
songs, Born to Be Wild and Pusher and
1025
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,799
all of that great stuff. um
1026
00:57:14,799 --> 00:57:18,000
exceptionally good guitar player and um
1027
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,160
no one more deserving of a documentary
1028
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,280
than Danny Johnson. So there you go.
1029
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaking of Tonechaser,
1030
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,799
my friend Steven Rosen wrote this book
1031
00:57:30,799 --> 00:57:33,520
called Tonechaser. He was also a good
1032
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,079
friend of Eddies. He's one of the top
1033
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:38,400
writers on the the West Coast guitar
1034
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,359
writers.
1035
00:57:41,359 --> 00:57:43,839
They needed a guitar player. And Richie
1036
00:57:43,839 --> 00:57:46,799
said, "I keep telling you about this kid
1037
00:57:46,799 --> 00:57:48,400
from
1038
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,839
Louisiana that's got the blues roots,
1039
00:57:51,839 --> 00:57:54,240
but he's a rocker and he's got a
1040
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,839
psychedelic edge."
1041
00:57:57,839 --> 00:58:01,839
And and John said, "Okay,
1042
00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:05,520
let let's let's go there." And so, so I
1043
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,359
get a call one day. Hey Danny, this is
1044
00:58:09,359 --> 00:58:11,280
John K.
1045
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,000
He said, ' Do you want to come to
1046
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,319
Nashville? We're based out of Nashville.
1047
00:58:18,319 --> 00:58:20,400
So,
1048
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,599
if you're interested in this gig,
1049
00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:26,799
I won't call Cattle Call. if you'll come
1050
00:58:26,799 --> 00:58:29,920
here over Christmas. And I'm going
1051
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,000
Christmas. But what I didn't tell him
1052
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,520
was my my kids lived in Nashville. It
1053
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,319
was like a free trip to see my kids.
1054
00:58:38,319 --> 00:58:40,559
Even if I don't get the gig, I'm going
1055
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:42,319
to Nashville.
1056
00:58:42,319 --> 00:58:45,839
I said, I can do that. You know, how
1057
00:58:45,839 --> 00:58:50,000
many days you want? I think one. Yeah.
1058
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,359
meaning like if you don't and so I
1059
00:58:53,359 --> 00:58:56,960
learned one of their classics ride with
1060
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,960
me. I don't know if it was a hit, but it
1061
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,920
was a slide tune. And just in case, he
1062
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,119
wanted me to play that song. And he
1063
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:08,880
said, "Well, well, you know,
1064
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,599
just learn Suki Suki, you know, like
1065
00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:13,920
three songs."
1066
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,240
When we went there, we played the three
1067
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,359
songs they told me to learn.
1068
00:59:19,359 --> 00:59:22,240
And he said, "Let's break, Danny. Go
1069
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,000
out." And and they were all smiling,
1070
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,480
everything. And I I said, "You want to
1071
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,280
do Rod with me? You know, Rod with Me
1072
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,000
and Open Tuning Slot?" "Yeah." And we
1073
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,720
played that. And I think that was the
1074
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,839
one that won the Dan Electro.
1075
00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:40,960
And he said, "Let's let's take a break."
1076
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,559
And uh they walked out of the room and
1077
00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:47,280
came back and said, "You got to get
1078
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,319
close to 25 years."
1079
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,319
Somebody once asked me, "Does that get
1080
00:59:54,319 --> 00:59:56,240
old?"
1081
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,200
You know, like playing Born to be Wild
1082
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,119
and Magic Carpet riding the pusher in
1083
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:04,480
front of 20,000 people.
1084
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,160
It's the same thing every time you play
1085
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,880
it. It's like the It's so exciting. It's
1086
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,480
like, does it get old playing Rock and
1087
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,359
Roll Hooch at the end of the gig, you
1088
01:00:13,359 --> 01:00:16,400
know, and everybody's singing the words?
1089
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:20,680
It never gets old for me.
1090
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,960
was slow.
1091
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,960
I was all tore down. So, I got my
1092
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,559
prescription filled.
1093
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:52,799
I saw you
1094
01:00:52,799 --> 01:00:56,799
at the back of the line. And I knew home
1095
01:00:56,799 --> 01:01:00,880
had come to town.
1096
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:05,760
Lean on me.
1097
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:10,720
Lean on you.
1098
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:18,280
Lean on me. Let's get free.
1099
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:27,440
Thunder
1100
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,480
in the city.
1101
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:35,440
Fire in the streets.
1102
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,920
Sinners,
1103
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:42,000
losers, and winners. We all need to stop
1104
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,880
and breathe.
1105
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:50,319
is lean on me.
1106
01:01:50,319 --> 01:01:55,280
Lean on you.
1107
01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:02,839
Lean on me. Let's get free.
1108
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:36,280
Brea free. Such a friend.
1109
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:46,119
Break. Break. Such a friend.
1110
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,160
See That play is so much better. I
1111
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,440
didn't know you were filming me.
1112
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:39,079
>> Oh, say that again.
1113
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,319
>> Well, I shouldn't have the glasses on
1114
01:03:42,319 --> 01:03:45,119
for one thing. Ladies and gentlemen, now
1115
01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:46,480
he's okay.
1116
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,640
>> This is just getting used to having a
1117
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,119
camera on you.
1118
01:03:56,799 --> 01:03:59,799
His
1119
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,400
style is like
1120
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,000
um
1121
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,240
lead belly
1122
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,640
meets Jimmy Hendris, you know? It's like
1123
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:19,760
very country blues
1124
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,400
foundation, but then with this rock
1125
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,319
psychedelia on top of that. Um, he
1126
01:04:26,319 --> 01:04:29,200
definitely has his own style that's
1127
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,599
that's different than any other of the
1128
01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:34,640
great rock guitar players that that you
1129
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,000
know were his contemporaries. His style,
1130
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,480
you know, it's a Danny Johnson lick when
1131
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,680
you hear it. I think his style is
1132
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,760
completely 100% his own, even within the
1133
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:53,039
world of lead guitar player. Uh because
1134
01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:55,920
you know he he came up in the 70s and
1135
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,920
80s when
1136
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,400
lead guitar player was that was the man
1137
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,000
that was like the old wild west
1138
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,119
gunfighter. That's they were they were
1139
01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:08,079
revered even in the rock and roll world.
1140
01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:15,280
and his style is such a a gumbo of
1141
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:19,359
the blues and rock and roll and
1142
01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:21,039
aggressiveness
1143
01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:23,440
mixed with
1144
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:27,680
sort of a uh less fair attitude. It's
1145
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,000
just nobody else really ever catches it
1146
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,720
like like he catches it. He when he
1147
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,520
plays a solo, it doesn't sound like
1148
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,240
anyone else's. It's not contrived. Other
1149
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,079
people try to sound like him. He doesn't
1150
01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:41,760
try to sound like other people.
1151
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,440
>> Music
1152
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,559
was a part of everything in our lives as
1153
01:05:46,559 --> 01:05:49,280
my dad. Um
1154
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,440
I don't remember
1155
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,559
it not being a part of things. you know,
1156
01:05:54,559 --> 01:05:56,720
uh, dad was always playing the guitar
1157
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,280
and whether we were sitting at the
1158
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,480
dinner table or watching a TV show or,
1159
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,880
you know, all gathered around, there was
1160
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,960
always a guitar and always music
1161
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:11,359
involved. Whether he meant to or not, I
1162
01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:13,200
think the biggest thing I would probably
1163
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,400
glean from my dad and in his life and
1164
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,920
his, you know, fatherly advice is just,
1165
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:25,440
you know, to if you love something, then
1166
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:30,400
give it your all. And if you want to be
1167
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,160
good at something, then give it your
1168
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,119
all. And that and you know, you have to
1169
01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:36,640
live it, you have to eat it, you have to
1170
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,559
breathe it. And um and he did and he set
1171
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:44,599
a great example for that.
1172
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,960
She goes to church on Sunday.
1173
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,319
He still likes to roam.
1174
01:07:04,319 --> 01:07:06,720
They roll with the punches when times
1175
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:11,280
are tough. Living in the house of love,
1176
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,720
stuck in a broken world.
1177
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:18,160
We all need a fix.
1178
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:22,079
Faith, hope, peace, and harmony.
1179
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:26,119
That's what we need.
1180
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:34,119
I saw the smoke rise from the bottom
1181
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:37,920
and in the narrow the flames couldn't
1182
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,240
get no
1183
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:02,280
I just can't enough to
1184
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,240
nothing else.
1185
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,680
Now you want to say goodbye.
1186
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,680
Look at the tears in your eyes.
1187
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,640
We got the good stuff.
1188
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:21,279
Come with me. I'll s you free living in
1189
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:25,239
a house and
1190
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,560
Heat. Heat.
1191
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:54,440
Heat. Heat.
1192
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,960
on the second Private Life album
1193
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,679
produced by Eddie Van Halen.
1194
01:09:29,679 --> 01:09:34,080
Um I said we did a song rock by Angel. I
1195
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,920
said hey it'd be nice to have a harps
1196
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,480
accord because you know it's about
1197
01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:41,440
angels. What is that? you know, the
1198
01:09:41,440 --> 01:09:43,920
thing your your teacher played at
1199
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,359
school, you know, uh
1200
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:52,319
and um he said, "Okay, I'll pay for it.
1201
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:55,120
You can have it when you're done, but
1202
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,679
you got to tune it." And it's got 42
1203
01:09:57,679 --> 01:10:00,560
strings and it's hell to pay to get it
1204
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,800
in tune.
1205
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,520
One time he told daddy he was g he had
1206
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,679
to go to practice.
1207
01:10:11,679 --> 01:10:14,239
You know, he was a grown man by then.
1208
01:10:14,239 --> 01:10:16,159
And he he told my dad, he said, "Well,
1209
01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:17,760
I'm I'm leaving. I've got to go to
1210
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,480
practice." And daddy said, "Practice? My
1211
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:22,400
goodness, you should know everything by
1212
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,840
now." And also, Danny is a very humble
1213
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:31,360
person. you know, he he's uh
1214
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,520
I when he gets up on that stage though
1215
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,880
with that guitar, he's not he, you know,
1216
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,360
he lets the audience have it.
1217
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,679
>> Uh when we were in the bandits, we had
1218
01:10:41,679 --> 01:10:44,159
we did a record with Richie Podler,
1219
01:10:44,159 --> 01:10:46,560
American Studios that did Ride, Captain
1220
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,840
Ride, Stepping Wolf, so many big blues
1221
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,480
Image, all so many bands. Well, we did a
1222
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:54,480
whole record and it was going to be
1223
01:10:54,480 --> 01:10:55,840
released and we were fixing to get a
1224
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,440
deal with Polyor Records. And matter of
1225
01:10:57,440 --> 01:11:00,480
fact, we were we were signed to Polydora
1226
01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:03,120
and uh something happened that deal, but
1227
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,840
I think it's what happened is uh Rod
1228
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,239
Stewart wanted Danny. He wanted Danny
1229
01:11:08,239 --> 01:11:10,239
real bad and he offered him some real
1230
01:11:10,239 --> 01:11:12,719
good money to do it. So, he went on
1231
01:11:12,719 --> 01:11:14,719
tour, probably world tours with Rod
1232
01:11:14,719 --> 01:11:17,360
Stewart and it kind of fizzled away, the
1233
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,040
Bandits. and you know he had to go do
1234
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,000
his thing and you know get more famous
1235
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,520
you know he was with Rick Daringer for
1236
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,679
so long and he loved that so I don't
1237
01:11:25,679 --> 01:11:28,239
blame him on that I I didn't like it cuz
1238
01:11:28,239 --> 01:11:30,000
we were fixing to have a record out you
1239
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,840
know but I was going to mention one
1240
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,320
thing we did this show
1241
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,560
is the first video show that was ever
1242
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,640
ever done it was called Hollywood
1243
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,080
Heartbeat we were on a show with uh the
1244
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,679
Vapor
1245
01:11:43,679 --> 01:11:47,920
uh the Plimos the Go-Os David Buouie and
1246
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,320
the Bandits, we all did the same show.
1247
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,719
We're all in the studio the same time
1248
01:11:52,719 --> 01:11:54,960
and that was I thought we had it. I
1249
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,159
thought we were going to make it big and
1250
01:11:56,159 --> 01:11:57,920
we knew we were having our record coming
1251
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,239
out and you know we're going to be stars
1252
01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:02,960
and you know I'd have a worldwide record
1253
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,600
with Danny Johnson and you know things
1254
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,280
sometimes don't work out. You just get
1255
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,679
through it and you keep on going and
1256
01:12:09,679 --> 01:12:11,840
he's the best three-piece guitar player
1257
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,400
that you could ever play with. He was so
1258
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,040
full. He made everything. But of course,
1259
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:21,280
like together, we played together. It
1260
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:22,960
wasn't just a drummer and a guitar
1261
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,840
player. It was like we were together. I
1262
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,880
mean, we made Look, the first bandits uh
1263
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,440
we played and we were never off. We're
1264
01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:33,199
on the road. We wouldn't even have
1265
01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:34,880
enough time to take showers sometimes
1266
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,120
getting in in in the in the cities that
1267
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:38,719
we were playing. We' just get up there
1268
01:12:38,719 --> 01:12:40,960
and start playing. It was just one after
1269
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,960
another.
1270
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,320
They headed down to Texas from South
1271
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,480
Louisiana
1272
01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:10,239
with the boys in the hard rock band.
1273
01:13:10,239 --> 01:13:13,360
shadow. They were dancing in the B black
1274
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,560
night and looked like some girls to the
1275
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,199
boys delight.
1276
01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:24,880
When we asked what y'all name one said,
1277
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:30,280
the other said you can call me fine.
1278
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:34,360
pleasure and pain.
1279
01:13:35,679 --> 01:13:39,440
Place your words of blond hair blue girl
1280
01:13:39,440 --> 01:13:42,159
with the face like an angel from a
1281
01:13:42,159 --> 01:13:46,080
distant world. Pain dressed in black had
1282
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,000
a body to boot. A lions on her fingers
1283
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,280
and a bunch of tattoos.
1284
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,880
When we asked, "Oh, what's your name?"
1285
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:00,640
One senture and the other said you can
1286
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,880
call me
1287
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:08,360
pleasure and pain.
1288
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:47,360
My man up and took pleasure for a ride.
1289
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,320
So I bet he said your pain and I told
1290
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,679
her how to drive. Everybody's looking
1291
01:14:53,679 --> 01:14:56,880
for the same good time. So we headed
1292
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:01,199
down to Magic Street on a carpet ride.
1293
01:15:01,199 --> 01:15:05,440
When we asked what's your name?
1294
01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:08,640
Said I'm pleasure in the city. You can
1295
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,880
call me
1296
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:16,360
pleasure and pain.
1297
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,679
Sweet sugar cane.
1298
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:24,840
pleasure in pain.
1299
01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:31,360
>> Those days he was like a modern kind of
1300
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,960
player, you know, he had blues roots. He
1301
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:38,560
played like rock and his his solos were
1302
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,199
really well thought out but they even
1303
01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:42,960
though they were spontaneous most of the
1304
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,159
time. You know he had a great sound. He
1305
01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:48,640
looked great. You know he had all the
1306
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,280
you know he had all the elements of what
1307
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,520
a great guitar player like a guitar hero
1308
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,760
would have in those days. You know he
1309
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,040
got a good sound on the guitar. You know
1310
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,040
that's a lot of it too. You know guitar
1311
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,840
player that don't have a good sound.
1312
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,560
Forget it. sucks. They always had a good
1313
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,239
sound, you know. I remember seeing the
1314
01:16:08,239 --> 01:16:10,560
giant billboard on Sunset Boulevard,
1315
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,159
Daringer,
1316
01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:13,600
with my brother's name up there. I said,
1317
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,440
"That [ __ ] I never had one of
1318
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:18,440
those.
1319
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,960
Heat. Heat.
1320
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,320
Heat.
1321
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,280
Heat.
1322
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,640
Heat. Heat. N.
1323
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,440
Heat. Heat.
1324
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,600
Heat. Heat.
1325
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,120
Heat. Heat.
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