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He said, I've just been to Nepal to
smuggle some gold.
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And it was dead easy.
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You should do it.
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Carrying four stone of gold is a lot
easier when you're charged with
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We were rushing, we were buzzing from
the excitement of, you know, being in
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presence of some serious gangsters with
guns.
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Looking back now, I think they knew full
well what they were going to do to us.
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They were going to sacrifice us.
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I was a city boy.
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I had my Hermes.
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So I had my brogue, my pinstripe suit.
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And, you know, I enjoyed having a bit of
money in my pocket and pretending that
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I was really quite important.
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And quite a little city gent.
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But because of the general business
environment, there was a lot of stress.
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I was working long hours, not much time
off, not really enjoying it that much.
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That led to me becoming ill.
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I literally lied on my mum's sofa for a
year, experiencing the most bleak
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clinical depression.
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The depression was brought on by having
not enough thyroid in my system.
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I couldn't speak a whole sentence.
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I couldn't walk.
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It was certainly the lowest point of my
life.
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When it was warmer in England, I felt
better.
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Thyroid is used to create body heat, and
when you're in a warm climate, your
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deficiency is much less obvious.
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So I thought, well, if I go to an even
warmer climate, maybe I'll feel even
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better.
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I decided to go travelling.
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Ended up going to Singapore, Malaysia,
and then ended up in Thailand.
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And sure enough, it was a big tonic as
soon as I landed in a warmer, freer...
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I felt an awful lot better and, you
know, it proved to be a good move.
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I could really live like that for the
rest of my life. The idyllic existence
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it as well was staying in a wooden hut
on the beach, frolicking around in the
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surf during the day and eating lots of
lovely food and then starting drinking
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fairly early on and trying to get off
with any number of gorgeous female
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tourists. It was a three -month
existence of...
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Pure hedonism and fun.
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Sometimes going home alone, sometimes
not.
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But living to frolic another day.
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Help me.
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Help me.
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Help me. It had all the elements of a
sort of dreamlike existence for a young
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man who wants to just get stuck into a
few adventures.
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And that's exactly what I ended up
doing.
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Hong Kong was a cultural shock because
just literally the amount of people in
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the buildings. I was used to space and
beauty, and suddenly it's just this
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and bustle.
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There was this bloke in my hostel called
Oz who arrived after I'd been there for
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about a week, and I just kind of took
him under my wing.
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He seemed a bit naive in terms of
drinking and going out and having fun,
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just showed him how to do it.
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I was no expert, but we went out
drinking, and he picked it up, actually.
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Very good feuding.
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And we soon became very firm friends.
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We both had dwindling reserves of cash.
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I had frittered away on booze, pretty
much.
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I clearly needed to work if I was going
to stay away from England, and I
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certainly wasn't ready to go home.
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Oh! There he is, Jeffy boy. How you
doing, son?
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Marsha, do me a favor. Let me get a
bottle of beer. Rhett moved into the
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He gave guided tours to German tourists
because he spoke German but was
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American. He was tiny. He was like a
midget. You should have seen his wife,
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She looked like she was in the NBA, man.
She was like 6 '6", 6 '7". She was
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huge. He wasn't a particularly likable
character from the start. He was quite a
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loud mouth. Bottoms up, buddy.
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Literally loud.
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Yes, that is what I'm talking about. And
he's sort of boastful and whatever.
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Take that, keep the change, all right?
No, not really my kind of guy.
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But slowly we got talking, and slowly it
emerged that being a
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tour guide wasn't his only source of
income.
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So, you boys want to make some money?
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Really? If you want to make good money,
boys, you've got to get into gold.
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Gold.
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Let's get into it.
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He revealed that he had been taking some
gold over to Nepal, and this sounded
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like extraordinary.
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What on earth are you doing? All you've
got to do is take the gold on a plane,
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spend the weekend in Kathmandu, take a
look at the mountains, fly back Monday.
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Kathmandu. And that he was going to do
it again, and that there were spaces for
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other people to go with him if I wanted.
You know, the guys at the airports, the
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custom officials, that sort of thing.
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They're all in on it.
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Every single one of them. It just
sounded frightening, scary, involving
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didn't know in countries I didn't know,
and that it could go horribly wrong, and
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I, you know, I wasn't in that desperate
a situation.
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Listen, fellas, take it or leave it?
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Leave it, thank you. What about yours?
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Well, mate, I'll think about it, and,
uh, no. It's all good, boys. I'm not
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to twist your arms.
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He disappeared for a weekend, didn't
tell us where he was going, and came
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with a wadge of dollars.
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A big, fat, green wadge of dollars.
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You know, we were just transfixed. I
think Oz and I just were sitting
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him, and we just thought, well, you
know, that's a lot of money.
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It was actually $2 ,000.
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It wasn't a great deal of money, but to
people who were travelling...
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and running out of cash, it was a
lifeline.
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It seemed so tempting.
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Just a weekend away, not that difficult.
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Money in your hand.
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Dead easy.
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And we were pretty much doomed from then
on.
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Oz and I approached Rhett and said,
we're on for the next run.
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He was pleased, and he said the next
phase was we had to go with him
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one evening to Chungking Mansions, which
was a notorious tower block where all
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sorts of nefarious activities went on.
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So one evening, Oz, Rhett and myself
went downtown and met the fourth
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member of the team.
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Guys, this is Eric. He's French. A guy
called Eric who was a maitre d' at a
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restaurant in Hong Kong.
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He's a nice guy.
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We got on well with him.
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In many ways, it was a bit odd. It was a
bit like a joke because, I mean, there
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was me, the Englishman, there was the
American who was Rhett, there was Oz,
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Australian, and there was this Frenchman
who just turned up called Eric.
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And we were all going into this very
dodgy -looking tower block to meet up
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two even dodgier...
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Nepalese gangsters.
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It was rather exciting because I'd heard
about this place but never been there
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and it had quite a reputation for being
a centre for prostitution and smuggling
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and, you know, you could hire a room by
the hour and this was one of those
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places where dodgy deals could be done
and no questions would be asked.
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Then we went up the lift to some floor
near the top to
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meet up with two Nepalese men who
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had been waiting for us.
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The first thing that hit me was that one
of them was wearing a shoulder holster
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and the end of his gun was sticking out
from under his arm.
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And I must say, your stomach sort of
sinks a bit.
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There was a gradual dawning realisation
that suddenly we were
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involved in a very serious world and we
were to be on best behaviour.
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They had one multi -pocketed denim
waistcoat which had $400 ,000 worth of
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in it. And he wanted to see whether we
were physically strong enough to pick up
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this vest and put it on.
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It weighed over four stone.
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Obviously you go from being 11 stone to
15 stone suddenly.
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It was just very heavy and you could
feel your feet, you know. You were a bit
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like Robocop when you were walking with
that on because suddenly you were four
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stone heavier.
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We all wanted to prove ourselves to each
other that we could handle it.
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But you know we were all physically
strong enough. We all managed to do it
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we satisfied them that we would be good
mules My only question
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was what happens if we get cool
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No
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problem nothing man sent home deported
one night in prison, that's it
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So it seemed there wasn't any real
downside in this.
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One night in prison, I mean, we can all
deal with that, can't we?
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We had a good drink that night because
we were rushing, we were buzzing from
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adrenaline of agreeing to do this.
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And, you know, being in the presence of
some serious gangsters with guns, it is
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all good stuff as far as we can tell.
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It's frightening as well.
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But without that fear you don't have the
excitement. So it's all part and parcel
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of this Progressively crazy adventure
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There was a week between trying on the
jacket and doing the gold run during
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week There were times when I would ask
myself what the hell I thought I was
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doing I've still got time to pull out
and why don't I just be sensible?
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It came round to be a definite yes
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Not so much because of the money, but
more because the more I considered it,
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more I believed it to be a huge
adventure, and it became me wanting to
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that I could do something as dangerous
and as stupid as that.
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I'd been ill and restricted for a long
time. This became an expression of my
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being better and my freedom.
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This was proof.
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that i was back and not only was i back
i was back with balls
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The plan was to arrive at the airport,
check in, go through to the departure
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lounge, and there, somebody would meet
us and hand the gold
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over to us in the toilet.
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There was a lot of nerves at this point.
There was tension.
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We're sitting around waiting, thinking,
you know...
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Where is this guy? The first group of
people on our plane have got on a coach
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and have driven across the tarmac to the
plane, and still this guy isn't here.
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It's like, what's happening?
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And you think, are we being watched?
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Do people keep an eye out for people who
look nervous?
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And eventually he turned up at the very
last minute.
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Eric followed him into the toilet first
and then we all went in one by one after
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that.
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I was almost forcing myself to do
something which was against my nature. I
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you know, just a...
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A middle -class kid backpacking around,
suddenly doing something totally
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illegal, which was probably the first
major illegal thing I'd done in my life.
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The guy was standing outside a cubicle,
and on the floor of the cubicle
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was the denim waistcoat containing the
gold.
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We had to wear jackets and shirts in
order to provide two layers to conceal
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we were carrying beneath.
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And he looked me up and down and said,
yes, that looks good. I looked in the
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mirror and... And there was this kind of
ashen -faced, rather sort of
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sweaty, wide -eyed individual staring
back at me, saying, do you really think
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this is a good idea?
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That was the dawning realization that
there was no turning back now and it was
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going ahead It was just an intense
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Fear primarily
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Fear of the unknown and what one was
letting with
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oneself in for
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We didn't want to stand out like a sore
thumb, but there we were, the last
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people getting on, delaying everyone
else, delaying even the take -off of the
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plane, probably.
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Carrying four stone of gold is a lot
easier when you're charged with
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and you're therefore a lot stronger than
you normally are.
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I have some vague recollection of Rhett
saying that he felt that he was carrying
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even more than usual.
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And that was really the only indication
that perhaps we were carrying right up
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to the maximum of what could possibly be
taken by someone.
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It seemed that the deal with gold
smuggling was that you can fly it over
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Nepal where they have no metal detectors
at the airport and the customs
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people in Nepal were paid off to allow
you to go through without any trouble.
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Then it's taken across land to India
where they do have metal detectors at
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airport and it's sold in India for a
vastly inflated price.
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What you haven't done is paid the tax
for bringing it into either Nepal or
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India. So that's where the arbitrage is.
That's where, you know, people make
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money from gold smuggling.
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We get off the plane and it's hot.
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It's right in the middle of the day and
you're hit by this wall of heat and
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obviously... We're not really
appropriately dressed.
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So we're kind of sweating.
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When you add to the fact that we're
obviously quite nervous as well, we're
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sweating quite a lot.
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But anyway, we go through, we queue up,
and the passports are fine, we hand over
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the money, and then we go through these
big double doors into the customs hall.
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And it is bustling and noisy and...
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There are four gates, which consist of a
table and somebody searching people's
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luggage. And suddenly Rhett stopped and
looked puzzled, and I thought, what, you
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know, what's the problem here?
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OK,
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he's not there. The problem was he'd
been told to go through gate four, but
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usual guy...
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who manned Gatefall wasn't there. It was
a woman in a purple sari.
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There
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was
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literally an awful, I don't know, three
or four minutes. It dragged on forever,
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whereby we were just sort of trying to
look cool, but...
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Not moving and level attracting more
attention to ourselves whilst trying to
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have these conversation. Well, what are
we gonna do then? We can't just turn
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here And eventually We
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looked over to the woman in the purple
sari and she could see that we were
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struggling and she just sort of
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I know one guy. I told you you've got a
better idea.
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Of course I've got a fucking better
idea. It's not my idea. You don't have a
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better idea than one of them. Shut the
fuck up.
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Rhett was first. He put his bag down.
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Thank you very much.
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Oswald next.
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I was last.
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I'd rather not have been last, but
everything seemed to be going fine.
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Until suddenly, on the other side of the
customs hall... Stop!
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There wasn't really a thought in
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my head at this point.
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I just sort of couldn't really take on
board what was happening, but...
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There was this little guy with a
moustache. He grabbed Eric.
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My worst fears are kind of being
realised.
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He gets out a metal detector.
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And it goes off with a noise like a car
alarm.
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I had to walk towards him.
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But, you know, I thought, well, what can
I do?
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He just pushed us both in the direction
of this room to the side of the customs
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hall and just, like, ashen -faced, in
total shock, we
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went into this room and there was just
bedlam from there.
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Whilst Eric and I are sitting in this
room, Oz and Rhett have walked through
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are on the other side, waiting for us to
come through.
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Better check out the monkey temple while
you're here, mate. Yeah, right there.
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Do they have help at the store?
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No. They're not in the city, mate.
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Get the fuck off me!
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa! Stop!
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But instead of us coming out, it was...
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Four or five armed policemen coming out.
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As they started opening it, you know, I
was feeling pretty awful at the time.
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And then suddenly I thought, well, hang
on.
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I hope that it's just gold I've got in
my vest, you know, that there isn't a
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couple of packets of heroin as well.
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You know, I just thought, well, how
stupid have I been?
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Quite remarkably stupid in retrospect.
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Thankfully, though, there was no sudden
appearance of any packets of white
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powder.
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We had never seen the gold before,
obviously. We'd only felt how heavy
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it was.
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And we'd just seen sort of denim pockets
and known that the gold was in it. So
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to actually see what we were eventually
smuggling was quite a revelation.
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And it was quite a revelation to the
customs officials who were gathering
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around.
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We later discovered it was the largest
seizure of gold ever in the history of
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gold smuggling in Nepal.
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So they were naturally rather amazed at
the amount that we had had the audacity
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to try and smuggle into their country.
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Forms were produced which were written
in Nepalese which they wanted signatures
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to.
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We didn't know what they said.
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We didn't have any legal representation.
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We didn't have anything.
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But, you know, with people shouting
angrily in your face
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and thrusting a pen at you, you...
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Don't want to cause unnecessary trouble,
but you don't want to sign your life
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away.
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In the end, we signed them, because we
didn't want to be seen to be causing
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trouble.
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Then what happened, and this was the
only time I must have come close to...
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I suppose emotionally, this was a
difficult, very difficult moment.
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I've never been in handcuffs before.
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And they were big, rusty, very third
-world handcuffs.
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That was just a powerful, symbolic act
of putting on handcuffs.
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That's when you truly lose your freedom.
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Four of us were put into a jeep, and I
think there were four armed guards with
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us.
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We didn't know whether we were being
sort of kidnapped or anything like that.
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And we were just driven up into the
night.
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It was dark, and we couldn't see the
country that we'd landed in.
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We eventually pulled up outside this
sort of wall.
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We were pushed through this hole in the
wall, all four of us, and we
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were in prison.
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We realised we were in prison and it was
sort
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of dark and there were just rows of men
sleeping all over the place.
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We thought that...
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We were being put in a sort of holding
place prior to being thrown out of the
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country the next day.
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That's what we clung on to.
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Strangely, I slept incredibly well.
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It was an exhausting experience the
whole day, and by the time we got there,
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shut my eyes, and I did manage to sleep
and woke up the next day.
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You know, surrounded by this hubbub of
being in the middle of a prison.
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I just could not believe I was there.
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I sort of woke up and thought, well,
what's going on here?
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Oh, right, yeah, I was arrested last
night for gold smuggling.
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I've been flung in prison.
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Here I am.
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There was a call from the front gate
and...
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We had to get back into a jeep with some
more soldiers in, and we were driven
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back to the airport.
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And we thought, excellent.
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Right.
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It was an interesting little stay in
prison.
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They seized the gold. They're happy with
that. We're obviously going to be
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putting the first flight out of here.
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Get out of here, you idiots.
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First flight home.
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But when we got to the airport, We were
taken to a building on the airport
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grounds which had a sign outside saying
Customs Court.
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And it quickly transpired that anyone
caught smuggling at the Nepalese
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airport was tried at the Customs Court.
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But then it turned out that the Customs
Court was simply an office.
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a rather shabby, small office with a bit
of paperwork in it, and that the judge
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was actually the chief of customs, who
was the bloke who'd arrested us the
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previous evening.
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And we thought, well, this is just crazy
here. You know, I was expecting, if we
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were going to have to go to a court, I
was expecting something that resembled a
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court, somebody that resembled a judge.
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We just didn't know what to do. We were
just, like, alone on the other side of
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the world.
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being shouted at by the bloke who
arrested you, who's also your judge,
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like, this is not a planet or a legal
system that I'm familiar with.
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From where you brought it?
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From where you brought it, this gold?
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There were some questions about, do we
know whose gold it was?
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I don't know.
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We just take the gold, pick it up in
Hong Kong, take it to Kathmandu, and we
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find out when we get here, we give it to
him.
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I think, satisfied that we didn't really
know anything about anything, he pretty
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quickly said we'd all been sentenced to
four years.
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Four years?
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Yes. In jail in Nepal?
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Yes.
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Not deported?
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Unless we could pay the value of the
gold seized in a fine.
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Since we didn't have $1 .6 million gold
on us, that was looking rather unlikely,
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so stunned.
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Shocked and still in a state of sort of
disbelief, we were taken back to the
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prison to begin our sentence.
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You know, just unable to really
comprehend
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what had happened to us in the previous
48 hours.
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wondered what had gone wrong.
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Why didn't this operation go smoothly
like all the other ones had done?
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Who was the guy who first of all
apprehended Eric and then myself?
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Why did that happen if everyone was paid
off?
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We were later to find out that, you
know, there were other things afoot.
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But at that time we had not a clue.
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Life in prison in Kathmandu was very
frightening. We didn't know whether
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would be violence, whether there would
be sexual violence.
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It was a prison that just had everything
from murderers and child molesters and
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rapists, thieves, drug addicts. The
whole range of criminality was there.
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On the first or second day, I was
introduced to the only other white guy
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prison.
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He looked...
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simply quite extraordinary.
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He looked like some sort of wizard from
another century.
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And he talked in riddles. He talked in
total gibberish, basically.
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I discovered that he had been a gold
smuggler, had been in for nearly four
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years, and had gone mad.
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This was particularly frightening,
because my greatest fear now was...
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I don't know, for depression or being
cut off from your friends and family.
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know, you don't know where that's going
to take you mentally. And it seemed to
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me that here was potentially the future
of me.
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Just bonkers.
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I composed a very difficult letter to my
mother saying,
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don't worry.
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I've ended up in prison. It's in Nepal.
I didn't tell you I was going to Nepal,
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but I'm here.
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And, you know, I felt stupid, selfish,
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pretty wretched, really, you know.
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All of the sort of bravado had drained
away like dirty bathwater and was
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left with a slightly scared young man.
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wishing he could go back in time and
reverse some decisions that had proved
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be less than sensible.
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After three or four days in prison, we
received an American visitor who asked
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speak to Rhett.
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And his name was Ian, and he was
somebody that Rhett had met on previous
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How's it going, man?
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How's it going? I'm in Nepalese prison.
Pretty fucking shit.
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He worked for the Nepalese gangsters,
and he
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brought with him food and bedding, and
basically his message was, anything's
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possible in Nepal, we know who to speak
to,
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pay a couple of people off here or
there, and, you know, money talks, and
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we'll get you out.
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There was an enormous sense of relief
and excitement and hope that, you know,
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hadn't been forgotten about.
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We received regular visits from Ian
every week to ten days,
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with more money, with more food,
whatever, you know. We were constantly
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promised that our release was just
around the corner.
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We just carried on waiting and hoping,
and eventually the weeks turned into
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months.
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Then one day after about three months,
the planned day of the visit turned up
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and no one visited us.
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And that was it. No one visited us after
that.
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One of our friends in the prison, a
Nepalese guy, he was actually a silver
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smuggler, he explained to us the
Nepalese system.
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Are you in the jail?
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Are you in the jail?
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Yeah. Do you want? Uh -huh. Come.
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If we stay for three more months, we
can't appeal. So we've got three more
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months to appeal after doing three
months.
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If you didn't lodge an appeal against
your sentence within the first three
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months, then you could no longer lodge
your appeal.
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And three months had gone by and we'd
been told by the
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Nepalese gangsters to keep quiet.
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And as soon as that three months was up,
they dropped us.
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And so we were left with no chance now
of getting out.
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It became very clear that we'd just been
strung along from the beginning.
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And we had to think of other ways how we
were going to get out without spending
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four years there.
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Uncle Tony actually wasn't an uncle. He
was something like a second cousin, but
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he was always an uncle to me.
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I also knew that, you know, Uncle Tony
had been in the RAF and had quite a
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distinguished career there, and I knew
that he'd afterwards had some sort of
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more shadowy role, which made him a kind
of James Bond in my eyes.
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He was a kind of, you know, a bit of a
hero figure for me.
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I received a call from the front gate
and there waiting was Tony in a
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big green barber, the same one he used
to wear on his farm.
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And it was quite an emotional moment
because suddenly there was one of my
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here to try and help get me and my
friends out.
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Tony had done his research and we knew
that once a year on the king's birthday,
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the king, in all his mercifulness,
agrees to let out certain people on a
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Tony got us writing paper and we
composed a nice letter
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to his highness saying, could you let us
out on your birthday, please, your
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highness?
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We were guilty.
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but we're sorry and we'd like to go
home.
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Tony's role was really to act as our
representative on the outside.
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You know, we just wanted Tony to meet as
many people as possible.
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We didn't know how any one contact might
be able to help us, but we understood
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that if you were going to get out
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Writing to the king, you had to have
political support on the inside.
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And so Tony met up with an interesting
guy called Lucas.
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Lucas, it transpired, was an American
who worked with the Nepalese gangsters.
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In fact, he was closely involved in
organising the
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greasing of palms of the customs
officials at the airports in Kathmandu.
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But he wasn't in the country at the time
when we were arrested He had been
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called away by the Nepalese gangsters to
Hong Kong
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So whilst we were heading for Nepal
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Lucas who would normally be overseeing
the bribing of the customs officials is
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arriving in Hong Kong Lucas pretty soon
realized that we had been
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set up.
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They invited him over to Hong Kong so
that he didn't meddle in our arrest.
472
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Our arrest was planned from the start by
the two guys that we had met
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in Chungking Mansions.
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They packed us to the gills with as much
gold as possible and told the chief of
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customs that we were going to be
arriving.
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And the deal was, if you inform on any
gold smugglers in Nepal, you get a
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quarter of the value of the gold seized.
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So the more you put on your gold
smugglers and the more money you get, we
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up spending four years and they end up
extremely wealthy men.
480
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:48,220
It felt pretty bad when we realised we
were the victim of a set -up.
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But it felt pretty good as well because
suddenly our chances of getting out
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increased, increased quite
significantly.
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Lucas had contacts, or so he claimed, at
pretty much every level of government
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right up to the Prime Minister and then
beyond.
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He told Tony on that first meeting that
he was very interested in helping us get
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out and he would do everything in his
power power to get us out despite the
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guys who got us in it was december the
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17th and i remember the cry of english
from the front gate
489
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:40,840
there was the english vice consul from
the embassy she said uh
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00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:46,400
i don't know how or why but i've come
here to tell you that we've been
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this morning that you're going to be
released on the King's birthday on
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the 29th.
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And... I don't know, I mean, it's just
an extraordinary...
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extraordinary feeling.
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I then had the rather pleasant task of
going back inside the prison, gathering
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00:44:07,290 --> 00:44:14,070
Oz, Eric and Rhett around and telling
them that we were getting
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00:44:14,070 --> 00:44:15,070
out.
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We'd been very stupid in getting in and
we've been very lucky in getting out,
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but we were incredibly relieved But it
looked like our ordeal was coming to an
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end
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00:44:58,510 --> 00:45:00,770
I went in search of adventure.
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00:45:01,390 --> 00:45:06,350
But the plan for proving oneself had
gone about as dramatically wrong as it
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00:45:06,350 --> 00:45:07,350
could have gone.
504
00:45:08,430 --> 00:45:09,810
I still dream.
505
00:45:10,750 --> 00:45:15,770
I have regular dreams where I've tried
to smuggle again and I've failed again
506
00:45:15,770 --> 00:45:20,030
and I'm back in prison and I'm counting
the days again.
507
00:45:20,350 --> 00:45:22,890
And it's never a particularly nice
dream.
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00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,860
I wouldn't want to experience the thrill
of smuggling or attempting to smuggle
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ever again.
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And the series concludes next week here
on 5 at the same time, 9 o 'clock.
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