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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:03,169 (pensive music) 2 00:00:09,634 --> 00:00:12,721 (footsteps plodding) 3 00:00:15,140 --> 00:00:17,851 - [Jeremy] I often wonder about the nature of reality, 4 00:00:17,934 --> 00:00:19,978 about our relationship to the creative force 5 00:00:20,061 --> 00:00:22,230 that forged the particles of our stars 6 00:00:22,313 --> 00:00:25,859 and intertwined them with the molecules of our bodies. 7 00:00:25,942 --> 00:00:28,653 Who are we, and where are we actually sitting 8 00:00:28,737 --> 00:00:31,239 within the architecture of our universe? 9 00:00:31,322 --> 00:00:34,617 Are we alone, or is the answer simply stranger 10 00:00:34,701 --> 00:00:35,618 than we can think? 11 00:00:36,745 --> 00:00:39,080 My name is Jeremy Corbell. 12 00:00:39,164 --> 00:00:42,125 I seek to weaponize your curiosity. 13 00:00:42,208 --> 00:00:45,712 And if you're ready to suspend your own prejudice, 14 00:00:45,795 --> 00:00:49,299 welcome to the world of extraordinary beliefs. 15 00:00:50,884 --> 00:00:54,387 (pensive music continues) 16 00:01:10,570 --> 00:01:14,074 (pensive music continues) 17 00:01:17,869 --> 00:01:20,622 (brooding music) 18 00:01:23,458 --> 00:01:27,253 (voice speaking indistinctly) 19 00:01:31,383 --> 00:01:34,135 (tone pulsating) 20 00:01:38,014 --> 00:01:41,101 (patient 17 exhales) 21 00:01:48,692 --> 00:01:51,444 (water sloshing) 22 00:01:55,657 --> 00:01:58,576 (patient exhaling) 23 00:02:04,207 --> 00:02:06,292 (patient 17 sniffs) 24 00:02:06,376 --> 00:02:07,585 (stove clicking) 25 00:02:07,627 --> 00:02:09,337 (gas whooshing) 26 00:02:09,421 --> 00:02:10,505 (stove clicking) (gas hissing) 27 00:02:10,588 --> 00:02:13,341 (brooding music) 28 00:02:14,217 --> 00:02:16,803 (pan clanking) 29 00:02:20,015 --> 00:02:21,558 (egg thudding) 30 00:02:21,641 --> 00:02:22,392 (egg cracking) 31 00:02:22,475 --> 00:02:25,020 (egg sizzling) 32 00:02:28,273 --> 00:02:31,359 (toaster clattering) 33 00:02:33,570 --> 00:02:35,655 - [Patient 17] I've just so grown tired 34 00:02:35,739 --> 00:02:37,532 of all of this already. 35 00:02:37,615 --> 00:02:40,201 My world will not be turned upside down. 36 00:02:40,285 --> 00:02:42,120 I just wanna live my life. 37 00:02:42,203 --> 00:02:44,414 I mean, you don't wanna relive this. 38 00:02:44,497 --> 00:02:46,458 Either people are gonna believe you, or you don't. 39 00:02:46,541 --> 00:02:48,501 It's kind of put me on edge again. 40 00:02:48,585 --> 00:02:51,254 (bells chiming) 41 00:02:52,505 --> 00:02:55,133 (footsteps plodding) (floor creaking) 42 00:02:55,216 --> 00:02:56,551 (keys jangling) 43 00:02:56,634 --> 00:02:59,387 (latch clicking) 44 00:03:04,225 --> 00:03:07,645 Dr. Roger Leir did confirm I was gonna be patient number 17. 45 00:03:08,897 --> 00:03:11,107 - [Jeremy] So you're gonna get this thing out? 46 00:03:11,149 --> 00:03:12,692 - [Patient 17] That's what he's telling me. 47 00:03:14,069 --> 00:03:16,112 - [Jeremy] And what did you know of Dr. Leir before? 48 00:03:16,196 --> 00:03:16,988 - [Patient 17] Absolutely nothing, 49 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:19,866 I knew nothing about Dr. Leir until I was introduced. 50 00:03:20,909 --> 00:03:23,661 (engine roaring) 51 00:03:29,125 --> 00:03:31,294 - [Jeremy] Would you consider your life 52 00:03:31,378 --> 00:03:35,048 to have been completely normal up until the point 53 00:03:35,090 --> 00:03:38,051 where you've engaged these people interested in your story? 54 00:03:39,052 --> 00:03:40,845 - [Patient 17] My life has been normal, 55 00:03:40,929 --> 00:03:43,264 but it did get thrown into a storm 56 00:03:43,348 --> 00:03:45,558 once I met these UFO folks. 57 00:03:45,642 --> 00:03:47,686 (engine roaring) 58 00:03:47,769 --> 00:03:50,939 When Dr. Leir and his associates told me 59 00:03:51,022 --> 00:03:54,025 that this could be an implant, 60 00:03:54,109 --> 00:03:57,278 now it's all been brought back up to the surface. 61 00:03:57,362 --> 00:03:59,447 I'm wondering what I'm gonna see in the shadows, 62 00:03:59,531 --> 00:04:01,074 or is there missing time? 63 00:04:02,075 --> 00:04:04,119 This is scarier than hell. 64 00:04:04,202 --> 00:04:06,955 (engine roaring) 65 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:14,379 (brooding music) (engine humming) 66 00:04:14,462 --> 00:04:16,297 - [Jeremy] So you've met Dr. Leir. 67 00:04:16,381 --> 00:04:20,677 Do you trust him? (brooding music continues) 68 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:21,845 - [Patient 17] You know, I don't trust anybody 69 00:04:21,928 --> 00:04:23,054 in today's world. 70 00:04:23,138 --> 00:04:26,433 (engine roaring) 71 00:04:26,516 --> 00:04:27,267 I just want all this to end. 72 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:29,978 I just want it removed, not have to worry about a piece 73 00:04:30,061 --> 00:04:31,813 of metal floating around in my body. 74 00:04:31,855 --> 00:04:35,358 (air whooshing) (flesh squelching) 75 00:04:35,442 --> 00:04:40,447 (insects chirping) (brooding music continues) 76 00:04:54,544 --> 00:04:59,549 (sound waves whistling) (static hissing) 77 00:04:59,716 --> 00:05:03,470 (radio frequencies whirring) 78 00:05:04,596 --> 00:05:07,223 (pensive music) 79 00:05:14,856 --> 00:05:16,524 - [Radio Host] Good evening, everyone. 80 00:05:17,567 --> 00:05:19,861 You're in the right place at the right time. 81 00:05:19,944 --> 00:05:22,238 This is "Coast to Coast AM." 82 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:24,699 We're gonna be joined by Dr. Roger Leir, 83 00:05:24,783 --> 00:05:27,369 one of the most important leaders in the search 84 00:05:27,410 --> 00:05:29,913 for physical evidence in the field of ufology. 85 00:05:29,996 --> 00:05:32,207 As listeners to this program know, 86 00:05:32,290 --> 00:05:33,875 he's been on the program many times. 87 00:05:33,958 --> 00:05:36,336 He and his surgical team have performed all kinds 88 00:05:36,419 --> 00:05:39,005 of surgeries on alleged alien abductees. 89 00:05:39,089 --> 00:05:40,715 (static hissing) 90 00:05:40,799 --> 00:05:41,549 (tone blaring) 91 00:05:41,633 --> 00:05:45,804 (radio frequencies whirring) 92 00:05:45,887 --> 00:05:49,349 (birds chirping and squawking) 93 00:05:49,432 --> 00:05:52,394 (traffic whooshing) 94 00:05:56,940 --> 00:06:01,945 (cart clattering) (birds chirping) 95 00:06:06,658 --> 00:06:09,327 (pensive music) 96 00:06:25,010 --> 00:06:26,386 - [Dr. Leir] This mystery is 97 00:06:27,345 --> 00:06:30,807 kinda like a musical composition. 98 00:06:30,890 --> 00:06:32,851 If you're missing a note or two, 99 00:06:33,852 --> 00:06:37,605 you probably wouldn't be able to make sense of it all. 100 00:06:37,689 --> 00:06:41,901 (heartbeat thudding) (pensive music continues) 101 00:06:41,985 --> 00:06:45,071 (gentle organ music) 102 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:08,553 - [Jeremy] I was recently introduced to a surgeon who claims 103 00:07:08,636 --> 00:07:12,599 to remove implants, nanotechnology microchips 104 00:07:12,682 --> 00:07:17,187 embedded by aliens, non-humans monitoring our earth. 105 00:07:18,021 --> 00:07:21,691 He talked about abductions, scalar wave transmissions, 106 00:07:21,775 --> 00:07:25,862 and a program to study or manipulate the human race. 107 00:07:25,945 --> 00:07:29,157 Armed with a patient, a scalpel, black lights, 108 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,658 and a stud finder, (device beeping) 109 00:07:30,742 --> 00:07:33,995 I was eager to verify the authenticity 110 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:37,540 of this alleged off-world implant technology. 111 00:07:40,377 --> 00:07:44,089 - It's not broadcasting in this electromagnetic spectrum 112 00:07:44,172 --> 00:07:47,967 at all but is using scalar wave technology. 113 00:07:48,051 --> 00:07:51,930 And then when we use our electromagnetic devices 114 00:07:52,013 --> 00:07:53,973 and pick up a radio wave, 115 00:07:54,057 --> 00:07:56,726 we're actually reading a harmonic. 116 00:07:56,810 --> 00:07:58,895 - [Technician] It would be right about here. 117 00:07:58,978 --> 00:08:01,481 I feel something vaguely. 118 00:08:01,564 --> 00:08:05,610 Whether that's the foreign material or not, I don't know. 119 00:08:05,694 --> 00:08:07,696 We've got the X-ray with us right here. 120 00:08:07,779 --> 00:08:09,572 We lay it down on his leg. 121 00:08:09,656 --> 00:08:11,991 You can see this little spot here that shows through. 122 00:08:12,075 --> 00:08:12,826 - [Patient 17] Yeah. 123 00:08:12,909 --> 00:08:15,787 - [Technician] So it would be about here. 124 00:08:15,870 --> 00:08:18,081 So, you know, sometimes you talk yourself into something. 125 00:08:18,164 --> 00:08:20,041 You're not sure if you really feel it or no, 126 00:08:20,125 --> 00:08:22,168 but you have to know it when you're gonna do it. 127 00:08:22,252 --> 00:08:23,128 (device beeping) 128 00:08:23,211 --> 00:08:25,130 - [Dr. Leir] It's gotta be right there. 129 00:08:25,213 --> 00:08:28,800 (device continues beeping) 130 00:08:30,176 --> 00:08:31,553 - [Jeremy] Well, you have optics anyway, right? 131 00:08:31,636 --> 00:08:33,304 You have ultrasound optics you're using? 132 00:08:33,388 --> 00:08:34,723 - [Technician] Right here, yeah, so I'll show 'em 133 00:08:34,806 --> 00:08:37,684 when I do the ultrasound, so we're not gonna guess it. 134 00:08:37,767 --> 00:08:38,518 We're gonna find it. - Yeah. 135 00:08:38,601 --> 00:08:40,770 - [Technician] So this is the ultrasound goo. 136 00:08:40,854 --> 00:08:43,440 So I'm gonna go straight up and down on this. 137 00:08:46,401 --> 00:08:51,031 - [Jeremy] So, Dr. Leir, what are we experiencing right now? 138 00:08:51,114 --> 00:08:52,866 - We're using ultrasound to try 139 00:08:52,949 --> 00:08:56,244 and locate the exact position of the object. 140 00:08:56,327 --> 00:09:00,248 It's not easy because it's not only superficial, 141 00:09:00,290 --> 00:09:02,709 but it's also close to the bone. 142 00:09:02,751 --> 00:09:06,796 So we're using ultrasound to try and locate it. 143 00:09:11,551 --> 00:09:12,302 - That's it right there. (person whistling) 144 00:09:12,385 --> 00:09:13,219 - [Dr. Leir] Yeah. 145 00:09:14,929 --> 00:09:15,680 (technician laughs) 146 00:09:15,764 --> 00:09:18,433 - Pretty sure, Doctor, somebody just didn't slip you a 50, 147 00:09:18,516 --> 00:09:19,434 just cut 'em. 148 00:09:19,517 --> 00:09:22,395 (Dr. Leir laughing) 149 00:09:22,479 --> 00:09:24,814 - So now we're gonna draw the patient's blood, 150 00:09:24,898 --> 00:09:28,860 and then we put it in a centrifuge, and spin it down, 151 00:09:28,943 --> 00:09:31,738 and separate the cellular portion 152 00:09:31,821 --> 00:09:33,114 of the blood from the liquid. 153 00:09:33,198 --> 00:09:34,074 (machine whirring) 154 00:09:34,157 --> 00:09:37,577 And then that cellular portion is then mixed 155 00:09:37,619 --> 00:09:40,789 a anticoagulant preservative. 156 00:09:40,872 --> 00:09:44,000 And that's what we actually use to put the object in. 157 00:09:44,084 --> 00:09:46,127 Then when we take out small pieces 158 00:09:46,211 --> 00:09:50,882 of the surrounding tissue, that goes into a pathology lab. 159 00:09:50,965 --> 00:09:55,095 The object undoubtedly is some form of metal. 160 00:09:55,178 --> 00:09:58,515 So that goes into a metallurgical process, 161 00:09:58,598 --> 00:10:00,725 one step at a time where we look at it 162 00:10:00,809 --> 00:10:04,938 under an electron microscope and some other tests 163 00:10:05,021 --> 00:10:07,524 that we do to look for isotopes 164 00:10:08,942 --> 00:10:12,987 and non-terrestriality, - [Jeremy] Non-terrestriality. 165 00:10:13,071 --> 00:10:16,116 It is alleged that many of these mysterious objects 166 00:10:16,157 --> 00:10:19,411 that Dr. Leir and his team have removed display 167 00:10:19,494 --> 00:10:24,499 bizarre characteristics such as having nanotopography 168 00:10:24,582 --> 00:10:28,044 and metallic composition described by some labs 169 00:10:28,128 --> 00:10:30,964 as exotic meteorite material, 170 00:10:31,047 --> 00:10:35,135 not having been forged in the furnace of our own sun. 171 00:10:35,218 --> 00:10:35,969 - [Researcher] I don't think 172 00:10:36,052 --> 00:10:36,886 that you've been abducted recently- 173 00:10:36,970 --> 00:10:38,221 - No. - Based on this. 174 00:10:38,304 --> 00:10:40,974 - [Jeremy] As a surgeon, I know it's not your position 175 00:10:41,057 --> 00:10:43,727 to speculate on the origin of this object, 176 00:10:43,810 --> 00:10:45,770 but obviously, you know the story going around 177 00:10:45,854 --> 00:10:48,064 that maybe there's a correlation 178 00:10:48,148 --> 00:10:51,693 between the abduction phenomena and these types of objects. 179 00:10:51,776 --> 00:10:53,028 - Well, it's interesting. 180 00:10:53,903 --> 00:10:55,572 I mean, I don't know if you wanna quote me on this, 181 00:10:55,655 --> 00:10:59,701 but I just don't believe it's alien. 182 00:10:59,784 --> 00:11:02,412 I believe it's some earthly particle 183 00:11:02,495 --> 00:11:04,247 that's from some carpentry thing. 184 00:11:04,330 --> 00:11:05,165 They whack something. 185 00:11:05,248 --> 00:11:06,750 A little piece of metal flew off and stuck in 'em. 186 00:11:06,833 --> 00:11:08,918 They don't remember it 'cause it was so tiny. 187 00:11:09,002 --> 00:11:11,254 And then those people, enough people have 'em, 188 00:11:11,338 --> 00:11:13,506 people with abductive experiences (laughs) 189 00:11:13,548 --> 00:11:15,800 also may have the metal, so I don't know. 190 00:11:15,884 --> 00:11:17,969 He's doing the analysis on the metal. 191 00:11:18,053 --> 00:11:21,931 So I'm not, and that's where the things come in. 192 00:11:22,015 --> 00:11:23,725 I would reanalyze the metal, 193 00:11:23,808 --> 00:11:25,518 have another group analyze it and look at it 194 00:11:25,602 --> 00:11:27,645 if it was me doing it. (pensive music) 195 00:11:27,729 --> 00:11:29,439 - [Researcher] Yeah, that up there, yeah, sort of- 196 00:11:29,522 --> 00:11:32,192 - [Jeremy] A foreign object was about to be removed 197 00:11:32,275 --> 00:11:35,862 from a man carrying this burden for over a decade, 198 00:11:35,945 --> 00:11:39,908 nefarious implant by an extraterrestrial big brother 199 00:11:39,991 --> 00:11:42,369 or a piece of childhood shrapnel? 200 00:11:42,452 --> 00:11:44,496 I personally wanted to see 201 00:11:44,537 --> 00:11:46,623 what this foreign object was made of. 202 00:11:48,750 --> 00:11:51,294 - This piece of metal's in my leg or whatever it is, 203 00:11:51,378 --> 00:11:53,463 and it's been there for God how long, 204 00:11:53,546 --> 00:11:56,758 so be nice yank it out, do the experiments on it, 205 00:11:57,967 --> 00:11:59,719 and see what it is. 206 00:11:59,803 --> 00:12:00,595 Like I said, I have some people in my life 207 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:01,971 that just shake their heads. 208 00:12:02,055 --> 00:12:04,099 My girlfriend, my mom, a few other people are just saying, 209 00:12:04,182 --> 00:12:05,767 "Don't let 'em do it." 210 00:12:05,809 --> 00:12:07,185 It's a small incision. 211 00:12:07,268 --> 00:12:09,813 It's not like they're going into my lung, 212 00:12:09,896 --> 00:12:13,817 a few stitches, and it's a pretty simple procedure. 213 00:12:13,900 --> 00:12:16,236 - [Jeremy] Small incision, big mystery. 214 00:12:16,277 --> 00:12:17,570 - Yes. (Jeremy laughing) 215 00:12:17,654 --> 00:12:21,074 - [Jeremy] Were you surprised when they used the device 216 00:12:21,157 --> 00:12:23,993 for frequency, that what was in your leg seemed 217 00:12:24,077 --> 00:12:25,036 to be emitting- 218 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,746 - That's pretty amazing. - A frequency? 219 00:12:26,830 --> 00:12:31,084 - If that test is accurate, this is really an implant. 220 00:12:31,167 --> 00:12:33,003 Just by fluke, we found it. 221 00:12:33,086 --> 00:12:35,422 One thing led to another, and here we are today. 222 00:12:35,505 --> 00:12:36,589 - [Jeremy] Thing, I mean it sounds like you've had 223 00:12:36,673 --> 00:12:39,759 some powerful experiences that have at least led you 224 00:12:39,843 --> 00:12:43,179 to entertaining the idea that, you know, 225 00:12:43,263 --> 00:12:45,640 there are non-humans, they are visiting the planet, 226 00:12:45,724 --> 00:12:48,059 and that, you know, they are engaging humanity. 227 00:12:48,935 --> 00:12:51,062 - [Patient 17] The memories were as a child. 228 00:12:51,146 --> 00:12:53,523 I thought I had a couple abductions. 229 00:12:53,606 --> 00:12:58,069 Parents put locks high on the door when I was a young guy 230 00:12:58,153 --> 00:13:00,488 so I wouldn't drown in the pool, 231 00:13:00,572 --> 00:13:04,242 and they'd find me outside, and the locks were still locked. 232 00:13:04,325 --> 00:13:08,288 I remember waking up and being elevated on my back, 233 00:13:08,329 --> 00:13:11,708 straight up and feeling my nightgown being pulled back. 234 00:13:11,750 --> 00:13:13,626 My thoughts were, "Man, I'm really going up quick 235 00:13:13,668 --> 00:13:17,547 if you can feel the clothes on your body being pulled back." 236 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:19,466 So that was, like, the last time. 237 00:13:19,549 --> 00:13:21,843 This felt like they were up to no good. 238 00:13:21,926 --> 00:13:24,012 - [Jeremy] Have you ever seen a UFO? 239 00:13:24,095 --> 00:13:25,138 - [Patient 17] No. 240 00:13:25,221 --> 00:13:25,972 - [Jeremy] Never have? 241 00:13:26,056 --> 00:13:27,640 - [Patient 17] Not that I remember. 242 00:13:28,767 --> 00:13:29,642 - You've witnessed- - There's no insanity 243 00:13:29,726 --> 00:13:31,561 in my family, and we're healthy as logs, 244 00:13:31,644 --> 00:13:34,272 and this has somehow happened. 245 00:13:38,068 --> 00:13:40,236 - [Researcher] That's my little incision. 246 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,906 We spread it a little bit, and the question is, 247 00:13:42,989 --> 00:13:45,950 is it next to the skin, or is it next to the fascia? 248 00:13:46,785 --> 00:13:48,161 Well, I think it's close to both. 249 00:13:48,244 --> 00:13:49,329 - [Dr. Leir] Probably. 250 00:13:50,455 --> 00:13:52,457 Well, I think it said it was subcutaneous, 251 00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:57,545 so it's probably between the skin and the fascia. 252 00:13:58,380 --> 00:14:00,423 - [Researcher] We're gonna use a little metal 253 00:14:00,507 --> 00:14:02,592 with this thing, see if I feel it click. 254 00:14:04,010 --> 00:14:04,844 No. 255 00:14:06,888 --> 00:14:09,391 Sometimes you can find 'em just by a little click. 256 00:14:10,433 --> 00:14:11,267 No. 257 00:14:13,812 --> 00:14:16,106 - [Dr. Leir] Usually, oh, what was that? 258 00:14:16,189 --> 00:14:19,859 - [Jeremy] As I watched hopeful believers slice an opening 259 00:14:19,943 --> 00:14:22,362 into the flesh suit of a living man, 260 00:14:22,445 --> 00:14:26,950 I began to reflect on exactly what was going on. 261 00:14:27,033 --> 00:14:30,870 An alleged abductee, patient number 17, 262 00:14:30,954 --> 00:14:34,207 standing at over six foot nine inches tall, 263 00:14:34,290 --> 00:14:37,919 was a human monolith, a force of nature, 264 00:14:38,003 --> 00:14:40,964 and like the old cowboys of past, 265 00:14:41,047 --> 00:14:42,924 an absolutely honest man, 266 00:14:43,842 --> 00:14:47,929 one of those people, soft spoken, stoic, 267 00:14:48,013 --> 00:14:50,890 who is genuinely looking for answers to questions 268 00:14:50,974 --> 00:14:53,476 that have plagued him since childhood. 269 00:14:54,436 --> 00:14:56,479 And all I could think was, 270 00:14:57,313 --> 00:15:00,900 what the fuck is about to be pulled out of this man's leg? 271 00:15:02,652 --> 00:15:03,903 - [Researcher] Can you see it? Little spot there? 272 00:15:03,987 --> 00:15:05,238 - Oh, yeah, there it is. - Little black spot. 273 00:15:05,321 --> 00:15:07,323 - Yeah, yeah, right there. - That is it. 274 00:15:09,075 --> 00:15:10,827 Now it's a little bigger than that. See? 275 00:15:12,370 --> 00:15:13,371 So we'll get it with some 276 00:15:13,455 --> 00:15:15,040 of the surrounding tissue around it. 277 00:15:15,123 --> 00:15:17,917 - [Jeremy] No wonder it was so invisible in the ultrasound. 278 00:15:18,001 --> 00:15:20,045 - It wasn't very big. - Wow. 279 00:15:20,128 --> 00:15:21,755 - [Researcher] So that is the entire thing right there. 280 00:15:21,838 --> 00:15:23,340 I'll put it right here, right there. 281 00:15:23,423 --> 00:15:25,842 I'll shine the light around it a little better. 282 00:15:25,925 --> 00:15:29,012 (heartbeat thudding) 283 00:15:29,095 --> 00:15:30,388 Here, I'll show it to you. 284 00:15:32,307 --> 00:15:33,058 That's the whole thing. 285 00:15:33,141 --> 00:15:34,267 - Wow. 286 00:15:34,309 --> 00:15:36,728 - Let's see, we have a sponge. - Amazing. 287 00:15:36,770 --> 00:15:38,772 - We'll put the soft tissue in that, 288 00:15:38,855 --> 00:15:41,399 and then this will go in the serum. 289 00:15:41,483 --> 00:15:43,902 So did you wanna get a closeup of this? 290 00:15:43,985 --> 00:15:47,238 (heartbeat thudding) 291 00:15:47,322 --> 00:15:51,534 Don't put it in anything till I dissect off the tissue. 292 00:15:51,618 --> 00:15:55,538 (researchers chattering indistinctly) 293 00:15:55,622 --> 00:15:57,999 I'll leave a little piece of soft tissue on there 294 00:15:58,083 --> 00:16:02,045 so that when we use things like electron microscope, 295 00:16:02,128 --> 00:16:03,963 which we'll do with SEAL Labs, 296 00:16:04,047 --> 00:16:07,717 that soft tissue will show up under the electron microscope. 297 00:16:09,177 --> 00:16:11,429 - [Jeremy] So, Roger, a success today? 298 00:16:11,513 --> 00:16:13,348 - Oh, yeah, I'm very happy with the results 299 00:16:13,431 --> 00:16:15,642 that we got today, you know. 300 00:16:15,725 --> 00:16:20,730 The object, it appeared, it went through all the testing, 301 00:16:20,897 --> 00:16:23,900 we got it out, and now we're gonna, you know, look at it 302 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:27,028 and see what both the biological 303 00:16:27,112 --> 00:16:31,116 and the metallurgical components are that it's made. 304 00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:34,452 And that will determine, you know, whether we have something 305 00:16:34,536 --> 00:16:36,329 that's out of the rose garden 306 00:16:36,413 --> 00:16:40,291 or something that's non-terrestrial. 307 00:16:40,375 --> 00:16:43,169 - [Jeremy] Do not underestimate the cosmopolitics 308 00:16:43,253 --> 00:16:46,589 of an alleged alien implant removal surgery. 309 00:16:46,673 --> 00:16:50,552 Word had spread, and many faithful arrived with camcorders 310 00:16:50,635 --> 00:16:54,055 and flooded the waiting room with anticipation. 311 00:16:54,139 --> 00:16:57,058 Patient number 17 quietly made his exit 312 00:16:57,142 --> 00:17:01,146 through the back door, avoiding the crowd that had formed 313 00:17:01,229 --> 00:17:04,858 to glimpse that which has yet to be explained. 314 00:17:06,860 --> 00:17:11,197 - [Dr. Leir] Just as I'm learning more about music 315 00:17:11,281 --> 00:17:15,243 and harmonics, I'm also learning more 316 00:17:15,326 --> 00:17:19,372 about the nature of the cosmos and reality. 317 00:17:19,456 --> 00:17:21,833 (heartbeat thudding) 318 00:17:21,916 --> 00:17:24,544 - [Jeremy] When traversing uncharted territories 319 00:17:24,627 --> 00:17:25,754 and exploring alleged 320 00:17:25,837 --> 00:17:29,132 and advanced nanocybernetic transmitters believed 321 00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:31,801 to have been embedded into a human host 322 00:17:31,885 --> 00:17:34,262 to monitor unknown rhythms, fields, 323 00:17:34,346 --> 00:17:38,141 and energies, to transmit scalar wave frequencies 324 00:17:38,224 --> 00:17:40,685 to beings with hidden intentions 325 00:17:40,769 --> 00:17:42,937 who either traverse space-time 326 00:17:42,979 --> 00:17:46,191 or dimensionally shift into our reality. 327 00:17:46,274 --> 00:17:49,027 There are key moments in your investigation 328 00:17:49,069 --> 00:17:52,405 that require a monumental leap of faith, 329 00:17:54,491 --> 00:17:56,159 or of course, you can just go 330 00:17:56,242 --> 00:17:58,953 to your local scanning electron microscopy lab 331 00:17:59,037 --> 00:18:02,707 to actually see what it is that you have. 332 00:18:02,749 --> 00:18:05,794 - My name is Steve Colbern. I'm a material scientist. 333 00:18:05,877 --> 00:18:08,588 I work on carbon nanotubes at my primary job, 334 00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:10,965 and I'm Roger's head scientist 335 00:18:11,049 --> 00:18:13,802 in the ANS research organization that he founded. 336 00:18:13,885 --> 00:18:16,429 - [Dr. Leir] Must be stuck some place. 337 00:18:16,513 --> 00:18:17,305 There it is. 338 00:18:17,389 --> 00:18:19,349 - [Researcher] Religion made those guys, too. 339 00:18:19,432 --> 00:18:20,809 It's all one world? 340 00:18:20,892 --> 00:18:21,810 - Yeah. - That's what they're saying? 341 00:18:21,893 --> 00:18:22,769 - Kind of. - This is 342 00:18:22,852 --> 00:18:25,313 the official testing, a foreign body 343 00:18:25,397 --> 00:18:26,815 that was removed from you. 344 00:18:26,898 --> 00:18:28,525 Are you curious about it all? 345 00:18:28,608 --> 00:18:29,693 - Absolutely. 346 00:18:29,776 --> 00:18:30,944 - What do you- - A mystery. 347 00:18:31,027 --> 00:18:31,778 - [Jeremy] It is a mystery. 348 00:18:31,861 --> 00:18:33,238 Do you think we'll solve it today? 349 00:18:33,321 --> 00:18:34,739 - Yes, we will. 350 00:18:34,823 --> 00:18:35,824 - So- - Yeah. 351 00:18:35,907 --> 00:18:37,158 - [Researcher] Thousands of 'em. 352 00:18:37,242 --> 00:18:38,868 - [Researcher] Is it shining on the inside, Steve? 353 00:18:38,952 --> 00:18:39,994 - Yeah, we see metal. 354 00:18:41,121 --> 00:18:42,497 - Cool. - Definitely metal. 355 00:18:46,668 --> 00:18:49,254 All right, let's load it back up. 356 00:18:49,337 --> 00:18:50,672 - [Dr. Leir] Now do you wanna remount it 357 00:18:50,755 --> 00:18:53,425 so that we got it sitting up on end? 358 00:18:53,508 --> 00:18:55,051 - [Researcher] Test it with the gauss meter? 359 00:18:55,135 --> 00:18:56,636 - [Dr. Leir] That would be a good idea. 360 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,055 - [Researcher] Hold on, Steve gauss meter test. 361 00:18:59,931 --> 00:19:02,434 - [Dr. Leir] Finger off, just hold it straight up. 362 00:19:04,978 --> 00:19:07,188 Okay. (device clicking) 363 00:19:07,272 --> 00:19:08,523 Hmm, you're getting a little bit. 364 00:19:08,606 --> 00:19:10,150 - A little bit. - Little bit. 365 00:19:10,233 --> 00:19:12,235 - [Researcher] Not much. 366 00:19:14,738 --> 00:19:19,743 (machine whirring) (pensive music) 367 00:19:31,129 --> 00:19:33,590 - [Steve] This diagnostic's really unstructured. 368 00:19:33,673 --> 00:19:35,342 - Yeah? - Checking. 369 00:19:35,425 --> 00:19:38,345 (machine whirring) 370 00:19:41,222 --> 00:19:43,058 - There. - Right there? 371 00:19:45,352 --> 00:19:47,604 - [Jeremy] With the power to look at the object 372 00:19:47,687 --> 00:19:52,359 at almost the atomic level, an alien landscape emerged 373 00:19:52,442 --> 00:19:54,861 similar to topographical surveys 374 00:19:54,944 --> 00:19:57,155 of our stars' celestial satellites 375 00:19:57,238 --> 00:19:59,783 orbiting our solar center. 376 00:19:59,866 --> 00:20:03,495 Structures and shapes began to take form within my mind. 377 00:20:04,662 --> 00:20:08,583 Spectral analysis, seeking explanation of composition, 378 00:20:08,667 --> 00:20:11,586 measurements of features, which looked like mountains 379 00:20:11,628 --> 00:20:14,297 and valleys, were taken with great precision. 380 00:20:17,634 --> 00:20:21,388 I was hopeful that today patient number 17 381 00:20:21,471 --> 00:20:23,932 would be given some answers. 382 00:20:24,015 --> 00:20:25,558 - [Steve] A nerve would also probably wither up 383 00:20:25,642 --> 00:20:27,936 under the electron bombardment. 384 00:20:27,977 --> 00:20:31,064 (heartbeat thudding) 385 00:20:32,691 --> 00:20:35,276 - [Jeremy] So, Roger, is there anything that surprised you 386 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:37,654 so far from today's analysis? 387 00:20:37,737 --> 00:20:38,697 - Yes, 388 00:20:39,948 --> 00:20:43,493 that the visualization of something 389 00:20:43,576 --> 00:20:45,412 that may be a carbon nanotube 390 00:20:45,495 --> 00:20:48,081 at a low magnification is kind of surprising. 391 00:20:48,164 --> 00:20:51,626 - [Jeremy] And what would prove that it's a carbon nanotube? 392 00:20:52,669 --> 00:20:55,964 - Well, when we look 393 00:20:57,090 --> 00:20:58,800 at the chemical components, 394 00:20:58,883 --> 00:21:02,387 which is the peaks on the screen, we can see that, 395 00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:04,848 on that particular one, it's all carbon. 396 00:21:06,433 --> 00:21:09,686 Then we'll have to go on with other testing 397 00:21:09,769 --> 00:21:12,480 with what's called Raman spectroscopy 398 00:21:12,564 --> 00:21:15,108 and a couple of other tests 399 00:21:15,191 --> 00:21:18,445 to determine actually if it is a carbon nanotube. 400 00:21:19,946 --> 00:21:21,573 - [Jeremy] Will you be able to do that today or? 401 00:21:21,656 --> 00:21:22,490 - No. 402 00:21:24,159 --> 00:21:26,202 - [Jeremy] You got your first look at what, you know, 403 00:21:26,286 --> 00:21:27,662 they've pulled outta ya. 404 00:21:27,746 --> 00:21:28,955 What are your thoughts? 405 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:29,873 - It's just interesting. 406 00:21:29,956 --> 00:21:31,374 Like I said, it still could be this is 407 00:21:31,458 --> 00:21:32,792 a rock from childhood, 408 00:21:32,876 --> 00:21:36,963 or it could be a meteorite piece from space. 409 00:21:37,047 --> 00:21:38,965 You just never know until breakdown. 410 00:21:39,049 --> 00:21:39,799 - [Jeremy] You're saying is, 411 00:21:39,883 --> 00:21:42,927 "I'm just trying to figure out what this is." 412 00:21:43,011 --> 00:21:44,929 - The mechanics of this object in my leg 413 00:21:45,013 --> 00:21:47,474 'cause I consider myself a Christian, 414 00:21:47,557 --> 00:21:49,893 and if this thing's mister space alien deal, 415 00:21:49,976 --> 00:21:52,187 it kind of blows everything I've believed in 416 00:21:53,188 --> 00:21:56,775 for the last 50 years out the water, I mean, technically. 417 00:21:58,276 --> 00:22:00,653 I mean... Yeah. - It doesn't go around 418 00:22:00,737 --> 00:22:04,866 implanting people, and there's, you know what I mean? 419 00:22:04,949 --> 00:22:07,327 It's just kinda puts Christianity 420 00:22:07,410 --> 00:22:10,622 and the question of, is it true or not? 421 00:22:10,705 --> 00:22:12,749 In a way, I hope this is just a rock 422 00:22:12,832 --> 00:22:14,167 or something from the past. 423 00:22:14,250 --> 00:22:18,004 For my beliefs, if it is, I kind of start rethinking. 424 00:22:18,088 --> 00:22:19,798 - [Jeremy] Would it shake the foundations 425 00:22:19,881 --> 00:22:22,550 of your faith if this was something 426 00:22:22,634 --> 00:22:24,761 from another intelligent species? 427 00:22:26,513 --> 00:22:28,556 - It could definitely. 428 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,559 - [Jeremy] Did you feel that we saw 429 00:22:31,601 --> 00:22:33,603 something anomalous today? 430 00:22:33,687 --> 00:22:34,854 - Yeah, it was definitely anomalous, 431 00:22:34,938 --> 00:22:37,357 and it was very similar to several other objects 432 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,736 that we've seen that were removed from Roger's patients. 433 00:22:41,778 --> 00:22:43,947 The nerve cells grow into the membrane, 434 00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:46,324 and this membrane forms the interface 435 00:22:46,408 --> 00:22:47,283 between the nervous system 436 00:22:47,367 --> 00:22:49,577 and the electronics of the device. 437 00:22:49,661 --> 00:22:52,288 - [Jeremy] What can you say conclusively from today? 438 00:22:53,581 --> 00:22:55,250 - That it's probably 439 00:22:55,333 --> 00:22:58,044 a sophisticated neurotechnological device 440 00:22:58,128 --> 00:23:01,715 rather than just a fragment of something. 441 00:23:01,798 --> 00:23:05,260 These devices seem to be deliberately inserted into people. 442 00:23:05,343 --> 00:23:06,553 There's no portal of entry, 443 00:23:06,636 --> 00:23:09,681 and there's never an inflammatory response to the objects, 444 00:23:09,764 --> 00:23:11,391 which is, you know, highly unusual. 445 00:23:11,474 --> 00:23:14,728 It's unheard of, so when we have the path report back, 446 00:23:14,811 --> 00:23:18,982 that'll tell the tale as well as to whether it's one 447 00:23:19,065 --> 00:23:21,359 of these anomalous objects we've seen before. 448 00:23:22,402 --> 00:23:25,488 My working hypothesis is that these are 449 00:23:25,572 --> 00:23:28,158 nanotechnological devices from off planet 450 00:23:28,241 --> 00:23:30,702 that have been perfected by some society 451 00:23:30,785 --> 00:23:34,831 that has had this technology for a very long time. 452 00:23:34,914 --> 00:23:37,709 I'll send half the object in for ICP-MS analysis, 453 00:23:37,792 --> 00:23:40,920 and that will give us some isotopic ratios 454 00:23:41,004 --> 00:23:43,631 and tell us whether the material is from off planet. 455 00:23:46,885 --> 00:23:50,180 (birds chirping) 456 00:23:50,263 --> 00:23:51,723 - [Researcher] I mean, everybody wants to squeeze 457 00:23:51,806 --> 00:23:55,435 every last bit of information out, every piece of evidence 458 00:23:55,518 --> 00:23:58,688 they can possibly get to try to solve the puzzle 459 00:23:58,730 --> 00:23:59,939 of what's going on. 460 00:24:01,107 --> 00:24:03,526 (bell tolling) 461 00:24:03,610 --> 00:24:07,030 (garage door clattering) 462 00:24:08,031 --> 00:24:10,241 - [Jeremy] While the scientific team was busy 463 00:24:10,325 --> 00:24:14,454 analyzing the composition, structures, and isotopic ratios 464 00:24:14,537 --> 00:24:17,290 of the surgically removed mystery object, 465 00:24:17,374 --> 00:24:20,794 I decided to meet up with patient number 17 466 00:24:20,877 --> 00:24:24,255 and find out more about his abductive experiences 467 00:24:24,339 --> 00:24:27,676 and his post-operation state of mind. 468 00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:29,469 You think that this is sinister. 469 00:24:29,511 --> 00:24:31,012 Like, when you saw the eyes 470 00:24:31,096 --> 00:24:34,891 of those three oval-head alien dudes that you tackled 471 00:24:34,974 --> 00:24:36,935 or tried to tackle in Las Vegas, 472 00:24:37,018 --> 00:24:39,187 you said that you could tell it was sinister. 473 00:24:39,270 --> 00:24:40,230 You could tell it was- 474 00:24:40,313 --> 00:24:42,607 - They're not there to take you out for pizza. 475 00:24:42,649 --> 00:24:43,441 That's for sure. 476 00:24:43,483 --> 00:24:46,695 I mean, they're there to manipulate you somehow, 477 00:24:47,529 --> 00:24:50,615 not to save you or give you a cure for cancer. 478 00:24:50,699 --> 00:24:52,951 They have their own agendas, 479 00:24:53,034 --> 00:24:56,287 and if it didn't, it'd be disclosure already. 480 00:24:56,371 --> 00:24:59,708 I mean, it has to be something behind this to keep it quiet. 481 00:24:59,749 --> 00:25:02,043 - Where did you come to that understanding? 482 00:25:02,127 --> 00:25:05,880 - Of course, their appearances are disturbing, 483 00:25:05,964 --> 00:25:06,756 but it's a sense. 484 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,633 Like, when you meet somebody that's nice and friendly, 485 00:25:08,717 --> 00:25:10,427 you go, "Hey, it's a nice person," 486 00:25:10,510 --> 00:25:13,930 And with these three people, things in my room, 487 00:25:14,014 --> 00:25:15,849 you just knew, well, they're in your house 488 00:25:15,932 --> 00:25:17,225 without your permission. 489 00:25:17,308 --> 00:25:19,936 You know they're about to maybe take you somewhere 490 00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:21,271 and do whatever they want with you. 491 00:25:21,354 --> 00:25:23,523 I mean, how can that be a good thing? 492 00:25:23,606 --> 00:25:25,025 There's no way they rang the doorbell 493 00:25:25,108 --> 00:25:26,735 and said, "Hey, we're from outer space. 494 00:25:26,818 --> 00:25:27,902 Wanna have a beer?" 495 00:25:27,986 --> 00:25:32,991 I mean, they're gangsters, you know. 496 00:25:33,074 --> 00:25:35,118 Alien gangsters are doing what they want. 497 00:25:37,787 --> 00:25:39,039 God knows what they're doing to people. 498 00:25:39,122 --> 00:25:41,624 At least I was caught and released. 499 00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:43,418 - [Jeremy] What would you say to an alien 500 00:25:43,501 --> 00:25:46,588 that was trying to abduct you if you could? 501 00:25:46,671 --> 00:25:48,298 - I don't know if I'd say anything 502 00:25:48,381 --> 00:25:50,550 rather than just treating like any burglar 503 00:25:50,633 --> 00:25:51,926 that was trying to break into my house 504 00:25:52,010 --> 00:25:54,387 and mess with my family is 505 00:25:54,471 --> 00:25:56,848 shoot 'em dead, you know, take 'em down. 506 00:25:56,931 --> 00:26:00,518 I mean, I think they're criminals. 507 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,312 They're doing what they want 508 00:26:02,395 --> 00:26:06,983 and a lot of cruel things to people, and be nice if, 509 00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:12,072 little payback 'cause this is unreasonable. 510 00:26:12,155 --> 00:26:14,407 How many abductees do you really need? 511 00:26:14,449 --> 00:26:16,951 How many people's lives do you have to ruin? 512 00:26:17,035 --> 00:26:21,623 I mean, you know, man up, show your face, or take off. 513 00:26:21,706 --> 00:26:24,125 And for them to, you know, 514 00:26:24,209 --> 00:26:26,586 always take you on a deserted road or late at night, 515 00:26:26,670 --> 00:26:28,922 they're obviously cowards on top of it. 516 00:26:29,005 --> 00:26:31,549 So they're criminals. They're cowards. 517 00:26:34,052 --> 00:26:35,220 If they're that advanced, 518 00:26:35,303 --> 00:26:38,056 they should be able to talk to us and explain things out 519 00:26:38,139 --> 00:26:41,643 and, you know, comfort us rather than 520 00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:45,271 like mean little kids with a magnifying glass 521 00:26:45,355 --> 00:26:50,944 frying ants on a sunny day, cowards, so leave me alone, 522 00:26:51,027 --> 00:26:55,031 and I hope I can take one of you out when it's possible. 523 00:26:55,115 --> 00:26:57,784 - [Jeremy] You fought back against these alien gangsters. 524 00:26:57,867 --> 00:26:59,202 I mean, you did that day. 525 00:26:59,285 --> 00:27:02,997 - Yep, I was ready to duke it out with 'em. 526 00:27:03,081 --> 00:27:05,834 For some reason, they just didn't wanna deal with it, 527 00:27:05,917 --> 00:27:10,797 but I was able to break that trance. 528 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,881 It was really a weird feeling. 529 00:27:11,965 --> 00:27:13,758 You can't move, and it's like there's no way 530 00:27:13,842 --> 00:27:16,177 this is happening to me tonight. 531 00:27:16,219 --> 00:27:19,389 And I was able to get up and go for it. 532 00:27:19,472 --> 00:27:22,475 Yeah, that's pretty amazing, tell you the truth, 533 00:27:22,517 --> 00:27:24,936 'cause most people can't, so I was able to break. 534 00:27:24,978 --> 00:27:28,231 So they have weaknesses 535 00:27:28,314 --> 00:27:30,900 that you can break through, apparently. 536 00:27:32,068 --> 00:27:35,280 - [Jeremy] Are you saying to me that you feel strongly 537 00:27:35,363 --> 00:27:37,282 that the experiences you had were real? 538 00:27:38,199 --> 00:27:41,578 - Oh, the experiences of childhood are real memories, 539 00:27:41,661 --> 00:27:46,082 and what happened in Vegas with the two abductions 540 00:27:46,166 --> 00:27:50,045 were real, but just fine details aren't there. 541 00:27:50,128 --> 00:27:53,048 Like I said earlier, conversations, 542 00:27:53,089 --> 00:27:55,258 maybe they are doing mental blocks on people 543 00:27:55,342 --> 00:27:56,676 'cause they know how frightening it is 544 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,553 for the human race to deal with all this. 545 00:27:58,636 --> 00:28:01,139 But they still feel like we deal with animals. 546 00:28:01,222 --> 00:28:02,932 They can do what they want with us. 547 00:28:03,016 --> 00:28:05,310 - [Jeremy] Do you feel that you were given a mental block 548 00:28:05,393 --> 00:28:07,520 from the experiences that you had? 549 00:28:07,604 --> 00:28:09,814 - Absolutely, there's no other way 550 00:28:09,898 --> 00:28:11,608 they could have made me forget about it. 551 00:28:11,691 --> 00:28:15,362 So however that's done, I'm glad that's possible 552 00:28:15,445 --> 00:28:18,114 because just knowing they were there in my room 553 00:28:18,198 --> 00:28:20,742 from childhood, sometimes in young adult 554 00:28:20,825 --> 00:28:25,121 and with this possible implant, you kind of feel violated. 555 00:28:25,205 --> 00:28:27,499 I mean, these people are, like, kidnapping you. 556 00:28:27,582 --> 00:28:29,584 You can believe what you want, 557 00:28:32,087 --> 00:28:33,838 but unless you get other people to believe, too, 558 00:28:33,922 --> 00:28:36,299 it just seems like a fairytale. 559 00:28:36,383 --> 00:28:37,509 I mean, it means nothing. 560 00:28:37,550 --> 00:28:40,929 You know, but if you tell people the story, 561 00:28:41,012 --> 00:28:44,766 they look at you like you're crazy, or you're a fool, 562 00:28:44,849 --> 00:28:47,227 or your religious friends think 563 00:28:47,268 --> 00:28:48,395 you're going to the dark side 564 00:28:48,478 --> 00:28:50,939 'cause if there's aliens, there's no God, 565 00:28:51,022 --> 00:28:52,899 which means you're an atheist or something. 566 00:28:52,982 --> 00:28:57,987 So everybody has their opinion on this. 567 00:28:58,071 --> 00:28:59,489 You know, with all this going on, 568 00:28:59,572 --> 00:29:04,160 I'm just, like, a normal guy with extraordinary experiences 569 00:29:04,244 --> 00:29:06,496 that can't really be explained. 570 00:29:06,579 --> 00:29:07,706 You know you've gone through 'em. 571 00:29:07,789 --> 00:29:11,543 But unless you meet other abductees 572 00:29:11,626 --> 00:29:15,171 or somebody in the line of work, nobody believes you. 573 00:29:15,255 --> 00:29:17,173 Nobody really cares. 574 00:29:17,257 --> 00:29:20,760 And they really just wanna put their fingers in their ears 575 00:29:20,844 --> 00:29:22,012 and walk away. 576 00:29:22,095 --> 00:29:24,097 They're just afraid of the truth maybe. 577 00:29:24,139 --> 00:29:27,434 I mean, when it happens to them or they know somebody 578 00:29:27,517 --> 00:29:29,227 personally that this stuff happens to, 579 00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:30,770 maybe they'll open their eyes. 580 00:29:32,439 --> 00:29:35,275 Everybody thought that the world was flat at one time. 581 00:29:35,358 --> 00:29:37,902 Those folks don't want it to be true, 582 00:29:37,986 --> 00:29:39,529 or they're afraid of the truth. 583 00:29:40,822 --> 00:29:43,575 They just weren't nightmares. They were real. 584 00:29:43,658 --> 00:29:45,577 (pensive music) 585 00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:47,912 - [Jeremy] I joined patient number 17 586 00:29:47,996 --> 00:29:50,915 for his postoperative evaluation. 587 00:29:50,999 --> 00:29:52,834 We were to confirm with X-ray 588 00:29:52,917 --> 00:29:56,046 that the entire foreign object was successfully removed 589 00:29:56,129 --> 00:29:58,882 and that the patient was healing properly. 590 00:29:58,965 --> 00:30:02,635 As Dr. Leir explained that the surgery was a success, 591 00:30:02,719 --> 00:30:04,137 I started to get the sense 592 00:30:04,220 --> 00:30:08,391 that patient number 17 was slightly agitated. 593 00:30:08,475 --> 00:30:09,225 - [Patient 17] I guess you guys 594 00:30:09,309 --> 00:30:11,102 haven't analyzed the material yet? 595 00:30:11,186 --> 00:30:14,481 - Well, not anymore than we did at SEAL Labs. 596 00:30:14,564 --> 00:30:17,317 Not every lab does every test. 597 00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:18,693 - [Patient 17] But when I was talking to Richard, 598 00:30:18,777 --> 00:30:21,237 he was saying it's just a sliver of steel 599 00:30:21,321 --> 00:30:23,281 with cotton bits on it from the bandaid 600 00:30:23,365 --> 00:30:24,991 when they pulled it out. 601 00:30:25,075 --> 00:30:26,910 - No. (laughs) 602 00:30:26,993 --> 00:30:28,203 (switches clicking) 603 00:30:28,286 --> 00:30:32,624 We can see it completely devoid of metal postoperatively, 604 00:30:35,043 --> 00:30:37,170 let's see, about two weeks. 605 00:30:39,214 --> 00:30:44,219 And evidently, we have definitively removed 606 00:30:44,427 --> 00:30:47,806 the object that was there before. 607 00:30:47,889 --> 00:30:50,600 There's no pieces left of the object. 608 00:30:50,684 --> 00:30:54,187 So it was removed what we call in toto, 609 00:30:54,229 --> 00:30:57,273 which means the whole thing was excised. 610 00:30:59,859 --> 00:31:00,610 - [Patient 17] You ever find a case 611 00:31:00,694 --> 00:31:02,362 where they put multiples on a person? 612 00:31:02,445 --> 00:31:05,323 - We did two surgeries on the same day, 613 00:31:05,407 --> 00:31:10,412 and that gentleman had one in the back of his hand 614 00:31:10,495 --> 00:31:15,458 that was also a little rod, cantaloupe-seed-shaped object. 615 00:31:15,625 --> 00:31:17,460 And then we had a whole string of 'em 616 00:31:17,544 --> 00:31:20,046 that were about the same that looked like yours. 617 00:31:21,506 --> 00:31:23,550 - So I could still be tagged somewhere else. 618 00:31:23,633 --> 00:31:24,467 - Yeah. 619 00:31:25,552 --> 00:31:27,721 - Guess the memories I have already as a child 620 00:31:27,804 --> 00:31:31,057 and even Las Vegas, couple visits, was enough for me. 621 00:31:31,141 --> 00:31:35,520 I mean, it was just frightening to see these images. 622 00:31:35,603 --> 00:31:40,233 I mean, you just, I mean it's just frightening. 623 00:31:40,316 --> 00:31:42,110 I mean, you just know it's not of this world. 624 00:31:42,193 --> 00:31:42,944 (pensive music) 625 00:31:43,028 --> 00:31:45,113 - [Dr. Leir] Most people want to remember. 626 00:31:50,535 --> 00:31:52,579 - [Jeremy] You're kind of over it, it sounds like. 627 00:31:52,662 --> 00:31:54,289 - [Patient 17] I just wanna get back to my life 628 00:31:54,372 --> 00:31:57,959 of enjoying my family, and riding my dirt bikes, 629 00:31:58,043 --> 00:31:59,919 and move on. 630 00:31:59,961 --> 00:32:01,588 We'll get the data here shortly 631 00:32:01,671 --> 00:32:05,300 and see what it's made out of, and should be game over. 632 00:32:05,383 --> 00:32:08,094 We'll know one way or another what the deal was in my leg. 633 00:32:09,220 --> 00:32:12,932 (pensive music continues) 634 00:32:13,016 --> 00:32:16,353 (sound waves whistling) 635 00:32:17,687 --> 00:32:22,233 (static hissing) (radio frequencies whirring) 636 00:32:22,317 --> 00:32:24,986 (pensive music) 637 00:32:29,532 --> 00:32:30,533 - [Radio Host] Good evening, everyone. 638 00:32:30,617 --> 00:32:32,660 This is "Coast to Coast AM." 639 00:32:34,162 --> 00:32:36,039 We have sad news to report tonight. 640 00:32:36,081 --> 00:32:39,709 Prominent UFO researcher Dr. Roger Leir has passed away 641 00:32:39,793 --> 00:32:40,877 due to a heart attack. 642 00:32:41,961 --> 00:32:44,255 Dr. Leir was a pioneer in the investigation 643 00:32:44,339 --> 00:32:48,093 for physical evidence of extraterrestrial contact. 644 00:32:48,176 --> 00:32:49,719 Roger will be missed. 645 00:32:49,803 --> 00:32:52,097 (static hissing) 646 00:32:52,180 --> 00:32:56,017 (device whirring and beeping) 647 00:32:59,437 --> 00:33:02,774 (sound waves whistling) 648 00:33:07,112 --> 00:33:09,989 - The isotopic ratios of most of these samples 649 00:33:10,073 --> 00:33:12,659 have been highly different from the isotopic ratios 650 00:33:12,742 --> 00:33:14,327 of earthly elements. 651 00:33:14,411 --> 00:33:17,038 The materials come from not only a different place 652 00:33:17,122 --> 00:33:18,623 in the solar system but a different part 653 00:33:18,707 --> 00:33:20,041 of our galaxy entirely. 654 00:33:21,793 --> 00:33:24,963 This is a juvenile of that big one right there. 655 00:33:25,046 --> 00:33:27,424 They apparently turn dark when they get larger. 656 00:33:29,467 --> 00:33:30,301 (water burbling) 657 00:33:30,385 --> 00:33:35,682 And this is Cryptocoryne plant from the Amazon 658 00:33:35,765 --> 00:33:37,934 and Amazon sword plant. 659 00:33:41,688 --> 00:33:43,106 These fish are very aggressive. 660 00:33:43,189 --> 00:33:44,858 They'll eat each other given half the chance. 661 00:33:44,941 --> 00:33:48,361 So it's good to provide 'em places to hide from each other. 662 00:33:49,529 --> 00:33:52,240 (water burbling) 663 00:33:52,282 --> 00:33:55,368 (heartbeat thudding) 664 00:33:56,244 --> 00:33:58,997 After we went to SEAL Labs, 665 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,541 Dr. Leir was in pretty good health at that point, 666 00:34:01,624 --> 00:34:05,253 and he had an apparent heart attack, 667 00:34:05,337 --> 00:34:10,592 and they found him near death, and he died soon after. 668 00:34:10,675 --> 00:34:13,178 And that was about six weeks ago now. 669 00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:17,098 It's a great loss to the UFO community. 670 00:34:17,182 --> 00:34:19,851 And he was a good friend, and 671 00:34:20,727 --> 00:34:23,480 (water burbling) 672 00:34:25,523 --> 00:34:28,109 he was a good friend and a great research associate. 673 00:34:30,445 --> 00:34:35,450 (pensive music) (water continues burbling) 674 00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:46,419 (glasses clanking) 675 00:34:51,675 --> 00:34:52,509 Sorry. 676 00:34:53,885 --> 00:34:56,429 (Steve sniffs) 677 00:34:59,641 --> 00:35:04,646 (water continues burbling) (pensive music continues) 678 00:35:11,820 --> 00:35:14,531 Well, Dr. Leir worked hard in pursuit of the truth, 679 00:35:14,614 --> 00:35:18,535 and he was striving to bring science 680 00:35:18,618 --> 00:35:23,707 to the UFO community and bring the scientific method 681 00:35:23,748 --> 00:35:27,335 to investigate UFO sightings. 682 00:35:27,419 --> 00:35:29,379 And he was particularly interested in hard evidence 683 00:35:29,462 --> 00:35:32,257 of UFO sightings and abductions. 684 00:35:32,298 --> 00:35:34,759 And that's why he got into the implant field 685 00:35:34,843 --> 00:35:38,221 because that's one of the only ways we can get hard evidence 686 00:35:38,304 --> 00:35:40,557 that people have been visited by aliens 687 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,101 with these devices left behind in their bodies. 688 00:35:44,019 --> 00:35:47,105 - [Jeremy] Do you still have patient number 17's sample? 689 00:35:47,188 --> 00:35:48,023 - [Steve] Yes. 690 00:35:49,232 --> 00:35:51,860 (pensive music) 691 00:35:54,446 --> 00:35:57,157 I think most people are like the fish. 692 00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:59,200 Most of the masses of humanity like the fish, 693 00:35:59,284 --> 00:36:01,411 and they don't really know or care 694 00:36:01,494 --> 00:36:05,248 what's outside their immediate sphere of influence. 695 00:36:05,331 --> 00:36:10,337 And we need to be better than that as a race. 696 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,673 (water burbling) (pensive music continues) 697 00:36:13,757 --> 00:36:15,633 - [Jeremy] What are we looking to learn 698 00:36:15,717 --> 00:36:17,677 about patient number 17? 699 00:36:17,761 --> 00:36:19,554 - [Steve] The isotopic analysis will tell us 700 00:36:19,637 --> 00:36:20,889 if the material's from off planet, 701 00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:22,182 so that's very important. 702 00:36:23,933 --> 00:36:26,144 - [Jeremy] Well, if this thing is emitting frequency, 703 00:36:26,227 --> 00:36:29,647 there's gotta be a way to capture that data somehow. 704 00:36:29,731 --> 00:36:31,649 - The ultimate goal is to hack the alien internet. 705 00:36:31,733 --> 00:36:33,693 We have reason to believe there's a complex web 706 00:36:33,777 --> 00:36:36,279 of communication between aliens 707 00:36:36,321 --> 00:36:37,864 and some supercomputer someplace, 708 00:36:37,947 --> 00:36:41,117 and abductees are also plugged into this system. 709 00:36:41,201 --> 00:36:43,870 It's the biggest story of the 20th and 21st centuries. 710 00:36:43,953 --> 00:36:45,914 It's the biggest story never told. 711 00:36:48,792 --> 00:36:50,919 (pensive music) 712 00:36:51,002 --> 00:36:55,757 (engine humming) (birds chirping) 713 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,177 (gear stick clattering) 714 00:37:02,597 --> 00:37:07,602 (door thudding) (birds chirping) 715 00:37:17,028 --> 00:37:22,033 (footsteps plodding) (birds continue chirping) 716 00:37:43,263 --> 00:37:45,390 (nail gun clanking) 717 00:37:45,473 --> 00:37:50,478 (brooding music) (birds chirping) 718 00:37:51,980 --> 00:37:52,981 (tool whirring) 719 00:37:53,064 --> 00:37:55,942 - [Jeremy] It's the waiting that will grind you down. 720 00:37:56,026 --> 00:37:59,154 It's the slow wear and tear of the mental highway. 721 00:38:00,947 --> 00:38:03,074 If it's not true, you're crazy. 722 00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:07,620 If it is true, the implications are even worse. 723 00:38:08,788 --> 00:38:12,083 How do we navigate an experience that is real to us 724 00:38:12,167 --> 00:38:14,127 but will never be real to others? 725 00:38:15,587 --> 00:38:17,756 Do we push it so far down 726 00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:20,717 that we can discount our own perception? 727 00:38:26,556 --> 00:38:29,225 (pensive music) 728 00:38:31,686 --> 00:38:34,314 (birds chirping) 729 00:38:34,356 --> 00:38:36,983 (footsteps plodding) 730 00:38:37,067 --> 00:38:39,819 It's one thing to ask a question. 731 00:38:39,903 --> 00:38:42,238 It's another to receive the answer. 732 00:38:42,322 --> 00:38:44,991 (hand knocking) 733 00:38:47,243 --> 00:38:49,287 (patient 17 and Steve chattering indistinctly) 734 00:38:49,371 --> 00:38:51,456 Is knowledge power? 735 00:38:51,498 --> 00:38:54,334 Or can knowledge be fundamentally destructive? 736 00:38:54,417 --> 00:38:55,418 We've been waiting a long time 737 00:38:55,502 --> 00:38:57,837 to find a broad spectrum elemental analysis 738 00:38:57,921 --> 00:39:00,423 and isotopic analysis that you're gonna be able to read 739 00:39:00,507 --> 00:39:04,177 for us because we wanna know, as patient 17 will often say, 740 00:39:04,260 --> 00:39:05,553 is this a piece of Tonka truck 741 00:39:05,637 --> 00:39:07,681 or just a rock from the ground? 742 00:39:07,764 --> 00:39:09,516 What was it that was taken out of his leg? 743 00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:12,602 And this should be definitive in some way of what it was 744 00:39:12,686 --> 00:39:16,189 that was taken out if it's anomalous or not. 745 00:39:16,231 --> 00:39:19,234 (envelope rustling) 746 00:39:24,906 --> 00:39:26,616 - We got quite a few elements here. Let's see. 747 00:39:26,658 --> 00:39:30,036 We have boron, sodium, magnesium, aluminum, 748 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,124 silicon, phosphorus, potassium, calcium, 749 00:39:35,208 --> 00:39:38,795 titanium, chromium, manganese, iron. 750 00:39:38,878 --> 00:39:40,964 Iron's a major component, 751 00:39:41,047 --> 00:39:44,968 cobalt, nickel, copper, zinc, gallium, germanium. 752 00:39:45,051 --> 00:39:46,886 And the gallium and the germanium are indicative 753 00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:49,139 of the presence of meteoric iron. 754 00:39:49,222 --> 00:39:51,433 Got arsenic, strontium, yttrium. 755 00:39:51,516 --> 00:39:53,018 It's a rare earth element, 756 00:39:53,059 --> 00:39:56,813 zirconium, niobium, molybdenum. 757 00:39:57,814 --> 00:39:59,274 That molybdenum's kinda high. 758 00:40:00,275 --> 00:40:01,234 That's the highest I've seen it in one 759 00:40:01,317 --> 00:40:03,862 of these objects, actually, 405 ppm. 760 00:40:05,822 --> 00:40:09,868 And we have some palladium, 761 00:40:09,951 --> 00:40:12,120 which is also indicative of meteoric iron. 762 00:40:12,203 --> 00:40:15,457 There's quite a few precious metals like palladium, 763 00:40:15,498 --> 00:40:20,378 platinum, rhodium, and meteoric iron. 764 00:40:20,420 --> 00:40:26,551 Lanthanum, that's also rare, barium, hafnium, tantalum, 765 00:40:26,634 --> 00:40:31,598 tungsten, rhenium, (pensive music) 766 00:40:31,681 --> 00:40:34,017 thallium, lead, and there's more. 767 00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:35,101 - As you look at this, Steve, 768 00:40:35,185 --> 00:40:36,978 does it look like it's a cake mix 769 00:40:37,062 --> 00:40:39,272 of they could have used this chemistry 770 00:40:39,356 --> 00:40:40,732 to build something here on the planet? 771 00:40:40,815 --> 00:40:42,692 I mean, is that could be a piece 772 00:40:42,776 --> 00:40:46,321 of steel fragment from something from my past? 773 00:40:46,404 --> 00:40:48,490 - Yeah, it looked like it would be very strong 774 00:40:48,573 --> 00:40:51,993 with iron mixed with all these different elements. 775 00:40:52,077 --> 00:40:56,915 One, two, three, we had 53 elements in object number 15. 776 00:40:56,998 --> 00:40:57,832 So (speaking faintly). 777 00:40:58,917 --> 00:41:01,795 - Seems kinda complex just to be a manmade thing. 778 00:41:01,878 --> 00:41:03,838 I mean, do chemists actually put this stuff together 779 00:41:03,922 --> 00:41:06,091 to make steel objects here? 780 00:41:06,174 --> 00:41:08,134 - Yeah, this is a lot of elements. 781 00:41:08,218 --> 00:41:10,136 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17. 782 00:41:13,765 --> 00:41:15,433 So we have a total of 36 elements here. 783 00:41:15,517 --> 00:41:19,145 So that is quite complex. (pensive music) 784 00:41:19,229 --> 00:41:21,064 Most industrial alloys don't have 785 00:41:21,147 --> 00:41:23,274 nearly that many elements in them. 786 00:41:24,526 --> 00:41:25,652 - Hmm. 787 00:41:25,735 --> 00:41:28,697 - And so I'd say 788 00:41:30,198 --> 00:41:34,160 this was an iron alloy 789 00:41:34,244 --> 00:41:36,955 with a significant amount of meteoric iron in it, 790 00:41:39,874 --> 00:41:43,712 based on this perhaps 25% meteoric iron 791 00:41:43,795 --> 00:41:47,632 and then with that same biological hard-part type coating 792 00:41:47,716 --> 00:41:48,967 on the outside. 793 00:41:49,050 --> 00:41:51,803 - When you say meteorite, is it like carbon, 794 00:41:51,886 --> 00:41:54,472 like our whole universe is created with, 795 00:41:54,556 --> 00:41:58,226 or I mean is that a common element, meteorite? 796 00:41:58,309 --> 00:42:01,271 - Meteoric iron, like they were the cores 797 00:42:01,354 --> 00:42:02,814 of planets that exploded. 798 00:42:02,897 --> 00:42:05,316 (pensive music) 799 00:42:05,358 --> 00:42:06,568 - Thing that I'm still trying to figure out, 800 00:42:06,651 --> 00:42:10,071 you're the scientist, but what that could have, 801 00:42:10,155 --> 00:42:12,449 what made that up that could have been in my everyday life 802 00:42:12,532 --> 00:42:13,908 instead of the implant. 803 00:42:13,992 --> 00:42:17,287 I mean, it could have been a piece of a nail 804 00:42:17,370 --> 00:42:21,207 or just a ordinary rock embedded in my shin from the past. 805 00:42:21,291 --> 00:42:22,792 - Well, one thing that would be good 806 00:42:22,876 --> 00:42:26,629 to do when we get more funding is 807 00:42:26,713 --> 00:42:28,923 to just take a regular nail 808 00:42:29,007 --> 00:42:31,634 and analyze it at the same lab and see what comes up. 809 00:42:31,718 --> 00:42:34,137 But I can almost guarantee you there there'll only be 810 00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:37,307 about four or five elements in it, and- 811 00:42:37,390 --> 00:42:38,141 - I see. - It will not have 812 00:42:38,224 --> 00:42:39,434 a complex structure like this. 813 00:42:39,517 --> 00:42:41,186 So I don't think there's any way 814 00:42:41,269 --> 00:42:42,270 you could have gotten that 815 00:42:42,354 --> 00:42:44,314 from your ordinary life. - An accident- 816 00:42:44,397 --> 00:42:45,940 - No. - From childhood forward. 817 00:42:46,024 --> 00:42:46,900 - Very unlikely. 818 00:42:46,983 --> 00:42:49,069 - Well, there wasn't ever an entry wound, 819 00:42:49,152 --> 00:42:52,864 and I have no recollection of an injury in that area. 820 00:42:52,947 --> 00:42:53,698 - [Steve] So you have no idea 821 00:42:53,782 --> 00:42:55,033 how long the object had been there? 822 00:42:55,116 --> 00:42:56,826 - Could have been from childhood, 823 00:42:56,868 --> 00:42:59,496 but it started giving me problems in 2005. 824 00:42:59,579 --> 00:43:00,872 Now you mention it, 825 00:43:00,955 --> 00:43:01,915 I'm trying to remember what the pain was 826 00:43:01,998 --> 00:43:03,667 'cause it felt like a railroad spike 827 00:43:03,708 --> 00:43:05,710 being driven through my leg. 828 00:43:05,794 --> 00:43:07,712 But I'm trying to remember the point of entry. 829 00:43:07,796 --> 00:43:10,715 It could have been in the line of the pain. 830 00:43:10,799 --> 00:43:12,884 Been riding my motorcycles on mountain roads, 831 00:43:12,967 --> 00:43:14,928 and it would start kicking in the pain, 832 00:43:15,011 --> 00:43:18,181 and it took all my strength to stop the motorcycle 833 00:43:18,264 --> 00:43:20,433 and lay on the ground without crashing 834 00:43:20,517 --> 00:43:21,685 with the pain. - Wow. 835 00:43:21,768 --> 00:43:24,020 - So, and then it just stopped. 836 00:43:24,104 --> 00:43:25,855 - Do you think the pain was 837 00:43:25,939 --> 00:43:28,149 to punish you somehow or to control you or? 838 00:43:29,067 --> 00:43:30,735 - Well, they all know I've been a bad boy, 839 00:43:30,819 --> 00:43:33,988 but I have no explanation. (pensive music) 840 00:43:34,072 --> 00:43:35,824 - [Steve] The electron micrographs of the object 841 00:43:35,907 --> 00:43:39,119 look very similar to the corresponding pictures 842 00:43:39,202 --> 00:43:41,204 of object number 15, which that turned out to be 843 00:43:41,287 --> 00:43:43,623 a sophisticated nanotechnological device. 844 00:43:43,707 --> 00:43:45,917 - [Jeremy] You're saying, Steve, that this is 845 00:43:46,001 --> 00:43:50,088 a highly complex alloy, 36 different elements, 846 00:43:50,171 --> 00:43:53,174 some of which are rare earth elements. 847 00:43:53,258 --> 00:43:56,803 - Yeah, it's got, for example, 410 ppm of yttrium. 848 00:43:56,886 --> 00:43:59,848 I mean, I know for a fact that no nail 849 00:43:59,931 --> 00:44:01,558 on the market's gonna have that. 850 00:44:03,268 --> 00:44:04,686 - [Jeremy] There's all these different metals in it. 851 00:44:04,769 --> 00:44:05,895 They're highly complex. 852 00:44:05,979 --> 00:44:08,273 They were fabricated. They were put together. 853 00:44:08,356 --> 00:44:10,900 It would be highly expensive and probably difficult 854 00:44:10,984 --> 00:44:12,861 to make a single object out of all of these elements. 855 00:44:12,944 --> 00:44:15,113 - Yeah. - Some of which are very rare, 856 00:44:15,196 --> 00:44:17,574 some of which are even toxic in small amounts. 857 00:44:17,657 --> 00:44:22,120 I mean, this is a very strange object in patient 17's leg 858 00:44:22,203 --> 00:44:23,371 that was taken out. 859 00:44:23,455 --> 00:44:24,581 - Yeah, no doubt, man. 860 00:44:27,083 --> 00:44:29,586 - [Jeremy] You've talked to us about the elemental analysis, 861 00:44:29,669 --> 00:44:33,548 but we also specifically got isotopic analysis. 862 00:44:34,466 --> 00:44:36,301 - Every element on earth 863 00:44:36,384 --> 00:44:38,887 or most elements on earth have more than one isotope, 864 00:44:38,970 --> 00:44:43,808 isotopes being forms of the element 865 00:44:43,892 --> 00:44:45,477 with different atomic weights 866 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,938 and having different numbers of neutrons in the nucleus. 867 00:44:49,022 --> 00:44:50,648 The number of protons in the nucleus defines 868 00:44:50,732 --> 00:44:51,691 what the element is. 869 00:44:51,775 --> 00:44:54,069 And the number of neutrons in the nucleus defines 870 00:44:54,110 --> 00:44:55,862 its exact atomic weight. 871 00:44:57,322 --> 00:45:01,409 So in elements with more than one of these isotopes, 872 00:45:01,493 --> 00:45:04,287 there's a certain pattern, certain ratio 873 00:45:04,371 --> 00:45:06,289 of the isotopes one to another. 874 00:45:06,373 --> 00:45:10,418 And that ratio is characteristic for elements 875 00:45:10,502 --> 00:45:12,712 that originate on earth, and- 876 00:45:14,005 --> 00:45:15,632 - [Jeremy] What do you see in the isotopes? 877 00:45:15,715 --> 00:45:17,884 Are they from here, or are they not? 878 00:45:18,802 --> 00:45:22,013 - They were similar to earthly isotopic ratios 879 00:45:22,097 --> 00:45:25,725 but off by enough where I would tend 880 00:45:25,809 --> 00:45:27,560 to conclude it was from off planet. 881 00:45:29,479 --> 00:45:31,898 - [Jeremy] So you're saying that within these results 882 00:45:31,940 --> 00:45:34,484 for the isotopic percentages, 883 00:45:34,567 --> 00:45:38,822 usually one to 2% could be a miscalculation. 884 00:45:38,905 --> 00:45:41,074 How many percentages are we off by? 885 00:45:41,157 --> 00:45:42,617 - Zinc-64, 886 00:45:44,369 --> 00:45:46,871 we're off by about 2.5%. (pensive music) 887 00:45:46,955 --> 00:45:48,873 So that definitely puts it 888 00:45:48,957 --> 00:45:51,292 into the for sure off-planet range. 889 00:45:51,376 --> 00:45:53,044 And the standard deviation of that measurement 890 00:45:53,128 --> 00:45:56,423 was only 1.25%, so there's not much variation there 891 00:45:56,506 --> 00:45:58,758 or much room for error there. 892 00:45:58,842 --> 00:46:02,178 - [Jeremy] So zinc-64 and zinc-66 893 00:46:02,262 --> 00:46:04,973 have isotopic ratios that are 894 00:46:05,056 --> 00:46:07,892 definitively not from earth? 895 00:46:07,976 --> 00:46:10,186 - Based on these results, I would say yes. 896 00:46:10,270 --> 00:46:11,354 - [Jeremy] It's a federal crime to change, 897 00:46:11,438 --> 00:46:12,689 I mean, it's not like the labs are messing 898 00:46:12,772 --> 00:46:13,815 around with the data. 899 00:46:13,898 --> 00:46:14,858 - Yeah. - And they're looking 900 00:46:14,941 --> 00:46:18,194 at something that is not from here. 901 00:46:18,278 --> 00:46:19,320 - Yeah, and I wanna emphasize 902 00:46:19,404 --> 00:46:21,239 this is not backdoor research or anything. 903 00:46:21,322 --> 00:46:22,574 As you say, it's a federal crime 904 00:46:22,657 --> 00:46:26,119 to alter these results since we did pay it for them. 905 00:46:26,202 --> 00:46:26,995 - They're actually truly mystery metals? 906 00:46:27,078 --> 00:46:29,372 They're not forged on this planet? 907 00:46:29,456 --> 00:46:30,665 - Not- - How do they know what it is? 908 00:46:30,749 --> 00:46:32,125 - You could forge it on this planet, 909 00:46:32,208 --> 00:46:35,253 but the isotopic results are pretty indicative 910 00:46:35,337 --> 00:46:37,088 of it being from off planet, so. 911 00:46:37,130 --> 00:46:38,256 - Well, our planet's a meteorite. 912 00:46:38,340 --> 00:46:40,842 It's a chunk off of something, and then a meteorite, 913 00:46:40,925 --> 00:46:42,510 we think of as this little ball thing floating 914 00:46:42,594 --> 00:46:43,511 through space, but we're- - To get 915 00:46:43,595 --> 00:46:44,346 that type of material- - actually a meteorite. 916 00:46:44,429 --> 00:46:46,681 - from the earth, you'd have to drill into the core. 917 00:46:47,891 --> 00:46:50,226 - [Patient 17] Or it got evacuated from the core 918 00:46:50,310 --> 00:46:51,561 through a volcano, right? 919 00:46:51,644 --> 00:46:52,854 It could be laying around. 920 00:46:52,937 --> 00:46:53,855 They might- - Well, there's parts 921 00:46:53,938 --> 00:46:56,274 of other planetary cores out there on the asteroid belt 922 00:46:56,358 --> 00:46:58,860 that they're flying around, so. 923 00:46:58,943 --> 00:47:00,070 Well, in my opinion, 924 00:47:02,697 --> 00:47:04,491 it's a nanotechnological device 925 00:47:04,574 --> 00:47:07,327 that was probably hooked into your nervous system. 926 00:47:07,410 --> 00:47:09,329 That's what caused the pain, 927 00:47:10,538 --> 00:47:12,749 made of partly meteoric iron 928 00:47:14,250 --> 00:47:18,588 and having a lot of odd elements in it. 929 00:47:21,466 --> 00:47:22,926 - Guess I'm still a little in denial 930 00:47:23,009 --> 00:47:25,512 'cause I wasn't expecting finding material in this object 931 00:47:25,595 --> 00:47:28,098 that from out of this world, not at all. 932 00:47:28,181 --> 00:47:30,809 - Have you seen my report on object number 15? 933 00:47:30,892 --> 00:47:33,186 It's similar to your device. 934 00:47:33,228 --> 00:47:34,813 And I'll stick my neck out a little bit saying 935 00:47:34,896 --> 00:47:37,232 that this is probably a device. 936 00:47:37,315 --> 00:47:39,150 - [Jeremy] Is it the smoking gun 937 00:47:39,234 --> 00:47:41,236 as it says in the magazine article? 938 00:47:42,404 --> 00:47:43,279 - I would say so. 939 00:47:43,363 --> 00:47:46,032 I mean, we would need 100 tests like this 940 00:47:46,116 --> 00:47:47,951 to convince the entire scientific community. 941 00:47:48,034 --> 00:47:53,331 But based on the fact that we're just trying to do this 942 00:47:53,415 --> 00:47:56,793 on what to them would be a shoestring budget, 943 00:47:56,876 --> 00:47:58,503 I think we've got some really good results here. 944 00:47:58,586 --> 00:48:01,798 And I think that this is a strong indication 945 00:48:01,881 --> 00:48:03,842 that the object is from off planet 946 00:48:03,925 --> 00:48:07,137 and a sophisticated device, and we need to, you know, 947 00:48:07,220 --> 00:48:09,180 follow up with some more research. 948 00:48:09,264 --> 00:48:10,515 - I don't have any answers. 949 00:48:10,598 --> 00:48:14,644 I'm still a doubting Thomas on what this could possibly be, 950 00:48:14,728 --> 00:48:16,771 but I'm not jumping for joy 951 00:48:16,855 --> 00:48:18,773 'cause it just affirms that this whole story 952 00:48:18,857 --> 00:48:19,983 and this adventure is true, 953 00:48:20,066 --> 00:48:22,861 and it's just been a nightmare since childhood. 954 00:48:22,944 --> 00:48:24,946 - [Jeremy] You don't want it to be true. 955 00:48:25,947 --> 00:48:28,992 - Not really, yeah, it's a pain. 956 00:48:29,075 --> 00:48:31,036 - Mm-hmm. - And you can't talk to anybody about it- 957 00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:32,203 - No. - Except for other UFO people. 958 00:48:32,287 --> 00:48:35,165 And it does, you just can't even bring it up anywhere. 959 00:48:35,248 --> 00:48:37,375 The media has a taboo. It's like politics. 960 00:48:37,459 --> 00:48:39,544 Once people have their mind set a certain way, 961 00:48:39,627 --> 00:48:41,171 there's no convincing them. 962 00:48:41,254 --> 00:48:43,506 I mean- - How does this make you feel? 963 00:48:43,590 --> 00:48:46,051 Are you surprised by these results? 964 00:48:46,134 --> 00:48:47,510 - Yes, 'cause I honestly thought 965 00:48:47,594 --> 00:48:49,137 it was something from the past. 966 00:48:49,220 --> 00:48:50,972 We don't have control over any of this. 967 00:48:51,056 --> 00:48:53,683 We're just being herded like cattle and tagged, 968 00:48:53,767 --> 00:48:55,852 and who knows what they're doing. 969 00:48:56,811 --> 00:48:58,563 - It does require a period of adjustment, 970 00:48:58,646 --> 00:49:01,191 and it's a door that you can never close again. 971 00:49:02,776 --> 00:49:05,445 (pensive music) 972 00:49:07,572 --> 00:49:10,492 - [Jeremy] What happens to the ego when it confronts a truth 973 00:49:10,575 --> 00:49:14,204 that is poised to transform our belief systems, 974 00:49:14,287 --> 00:49:17,540 and is truth itself a matter of interpretation? 975 00:49:20,293 --> 00:49:23,755 (paper rustling) 976 00:49:23,838 --> 00:49:25,215 - All right, you take care, Steve. 977 00:49:25,298 --> 00:49:26,675 - Yeah, you too. - Good seeing ya, man. 978 00:49:26,758 --> 00:49:28,802 - [Steve] Good to see you, too. 979 00:49:28,885 --> 00:49:31,054 - [Patient 17] We're members of an exclusive club. 980 00:49:31,137 --> 00:49:33,848 (door clattering) (pensive music) 981 00:49:33,932 --> 00:49:35,558 - [Jeremy] You were patient number 15? 982 00:49:35,642 --> 00:49:37,102 - Yeah. - You never told me that. 983 00:49:37,185 --> 00:49:38,937 - I didn't? - No. 984 00:49:39,020 --> 00:49:41,022 - Dr. Leir didn't want me to tell very many people that. 985 00:49:41,106 --> 00:49:44,109 I just was supposed to be the scientist in his organization. 986 00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:46,528 But I went through the whole process. 987 00:49:46,611 --> 00:49:48,154 I lost my marriage over this whole thing. 988 00:49:48,238 --> 00:49:49,906 Or at least that was a major factor. 989 00:49:49,989 --> 00:49:50,907 Yeah, it's been a big deal. 990 00:49:50,990 --> 00:49:53,702 I mean, I never would even entertain a lot of this stuff 991 00:49:53,785 --> 00:49:55,120 if I didn't have physical evidence 992 00:49:55,203 --> 00:49:57,497 that there's something going on. 993 00:49:57,580 --> 00:50:00,000 I've chosen to embrace it in part to get 994 00:50:00,083 --> 00:50:02,127 better treatment on the abductions, 995 00:50:02,210 --> 00:50:05,046 and there's no sense fighting 'em. 996 00:50:05,088 --> 00:50:07,382 I mean, they're far too powerful for that. 997 00:50:07,465 --> 00:50:09,426 All they have to do is turn the mental control up 998 00:50:09,467 --> 00:50:11,261 to level seven from level three, 999 00:50:11,344 --> 00:50:13,555 and they can get you to do whatever they want. 1000 00:50:14,597 --> 00:50:18,643 (pensive organ music) 1001 00:50:18,727 --> 00:50:20,311 (heartbeat thudding) 1002 00:50:20,395 --> 00:50:24,190 (voice speaking indistinctly) 1003 00:50:28,820 --> 00:50:32,282 - [Jeremy] Like Schrodinger's famous thought experiment, 1004 00:50:32,365 --> 00:50:36,119 I simply wanted to know if the cat in the box 1005 00:50:36,202 --> 00:50:38,288 was dead or alive. 1006 00:50:38,371 --> 00:50:40,707 Is this object anomalous or not? 1007 00:50:41,666 --> 00:50:44,627 The facts of the analysis do not lie, 1008 00:50:44,711 --> 00:50:48,506 but the interpretation seems to be deeply subjective. 1009 00:50:49,883 --> 00:50:54,637 The hard scientific line presupposed by the data 1010 00:50:54,679 --> 00:50:57,390 is easily bent by the worldview developed 1011 00:50:57,474 --> 00:50:59,642 by those who seek answers. 1012 00:51:01,644 --> 00:51:04,356 Where was the doc when you needed him? 1013 00:51:04,439 --> 00:51:06,566 Where was the man who started it all? 1014 00:51:07,567 --> 00:51:09,986 Was he playing his symphony in the sky, 1015 00:51:10,070 --> 00:51:12,989 having found peace from his questions in the realms 1016 00:51:13,073 --> 00:51:16,576 of the knowing while the mysteries 1017 00:51:16,659 --> 00:51:18,703 that keep us mortals in a state 1018 00:51:18,787 --> 00:51:21,956 of insomniatic disturbance roll on? 1019 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:27,045 (heartbeat thudding) (pensive music continues) 1020 00:51:42,769 --> 00:51:45,146 - [Patient 17] I just wanna thank him for his understanding 1021 00:51:45,230 --> 00:51:49,818 and his help and acceptance of this whole thing. 1022 00:51:49,901 --> 00:51:53,822 And you know, it's too bad he had to pass 1023 00:51:53,905 --> 00:51:58,535 before we knew 100% 1024 00:51:58,618 --> 00:52:00,537 what the item was in my leg. 1025 00:52:01,663 --> 00:52:03,873 It's a big thank you actually, thanks. 1026 00:52:20,223 --> 00:52:22,892 (pensive music) 1027 00:52:27,939 --> 00:52:30,025 - [Jeremy] The next move was to get interpretation 1028 00:52:30,108 --> 00:52:33,653 of the data from a scientist known as Nano Man, 1029 00:52:34,654 --> 00:52:38,575 a military-funded nanophysicist who might be able 1030 00:52:38,658 --> 00:52:43,538 to shine light on our seemingly anomalous analysis. 1031 00:52:43,580 --> 00:52:48,293 Maybe he could tell me if there was anything to this data. 1032 00:52:49,669 --> 00:52:54,632 (footsteps plodding) (pensive music continues) 1033 00:52:54,799 --> 00:52:55,759 (chair clattering) 1034 00:52:55,842 --> 00:52:58,595 (paper rustling) 1035 00:53:02,849 --> 00:53:05,685 (book clattering) 1036 00:53:07,103 --> 00:53:12,108 (brooding music) (insects chirping) 1037 00:53:20,492 --> 00:53:23,244 (paper rustling) 1038 00:53:33,380 --> 00:53:37,300 (Christopher speaking faintly) 1039 00:53:39,469 --> 00:53:42,222 (paper rustling) 1040 00:53:44,724 --> 00:53:46,017 - Huh. 1041 00:53:46,101 --> 00:53:51,106 (paper rustling) (Christopher sighs) 1042 00:53:51,648 --> 00:53:53,650 - [Jeremy] This came out of a man's leg. 1043 00:53:53,733 --> 00:53:56,069 There've been a lot of kind of assumptions about it, 1044 00:53:56,152 --> 00:53:58,071 but now we have the hard physical evidence, 1045 00:53:58,154 --> 00:53:59,698 the elemental analysis. 1046 00:53:59,781 --> 00:54:02,492 I just wanted you as a nano physicist 1047 00:54:02,575 --> 00:54:04,244 to basically look at it and- 1048 00:54:04,327 --> 00:54:06,871 - Yes. - Is this a Tonka truck? 1049 00:54:06,955 --> 00:54:08,456 - No. (laughs) 1050 00:54:08,540 --> 00:54:11,251 This sample is not a Tonka truck. (laughs) 1051 00:54:11,334 --> 00:54:15,005 It is not a rock or a pebble from the gravel. 1052 00:54:15,088 --> 00:54:19,175 Maybe he picked up a piece of something in his leg, 1053 00:54:20,927 --> 00:54:23,096 and it's been bothering him. 1054 00:54:23,179 --> 00:54:25,223 He had a strange experience 1055 00:54:25,306 --> 00:54:28,226 and decided that he had an implant. 1056 00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:32,731 No, this is not a stone, a pebble, or a Tonka truck. 1057 00:54:32,814 --> 00:54:36,151 There is nothing I can imagine 1058 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:42,198 that could explain why this man would have 1059 00:54:43,408 --> 00:54:46,244 a witch's brew of elements 1060 00:54:46,327 --> 00:54:48,997 within a sample embedded in his leg. 1061 00:54:49,039 --> 00:54:49,873 Arsenic. 1062 00:54:51,833 --> 00:54:54,627 Quite a lot of arsenic, actually, in the sample. 1063 00:54:57,047 --> 00:54:59,466 Yttrium, yttrium is a material used 1064 00:54:59,549 --> 00:55:01,801 in making superconductors. 1065 00:55:01,885 --> 00:55:05,096 We have a huge amount of yttrium inside this, 1066 00:55:05,180 --> 00:55:07,891 and yttrium is extremely toxic. 1067 00:55:07,974 --> 00:55:11,102 Machining superconductors, you have to wear masks and gloves 1068 00:55:11,186 --> 00:55:13,938 because the powder is deadly. 1069 00:55:17,484 --> 00:55:20,904 There are just really 1070 00:55:20,987 --> 00:55:23,698 an astounding number of elements here 1071 00:55:23,782 --> 00:55:25,784 that are quite poisonous. 1072 00:55:25,867 --> 00:55:28,620 - [Jeremy] Are these elements unique in any way, 1073 00:55:28,703 --> 00:55:30,372 just the elements themselves? 1074 00:55:30,455 --> 00:55:33,667 - Oh, absolutely, this is the most astounding array 1075 00:55:33,708 --> 00:55:37,504 of elements in a single sample I've ever seen. 1076 00:55:37,587 --> 00:55:40,924 I have no idea how you would make such a thing. 1077 00:55:41,007 --> 00:55:43,259 - [Jeremy] Even in your world of nanotechnology 1078 00:55:43,343 --> 00:55:45,970 where you do fabricate pretty exotic, 1079 00:55:46,054 --> 00:55:49,891 minute-scale machines and that kind of thing, 1080 00:55:49,974 --> 00:55:52,018 this is still interesting to you? 1081 00:55:52,102 --> 00:55:54,688 - This object has an elemental analysis 1082 00:55:54,771 --> 00:55:57,148 of a complexity I've never seen before. 1083 00:55:58,316 --> 00:56:02,320 - [Jeremy] Wow. (crickets chirping) 1084 00:56:02,404 --> 00:56:05,198 This thing is fabricated is what you're saying? 1085 00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:07,367 - Oh, yes, this thing is fabricated. 1086 00:56:07,450 --> 00:56:11,162 Our most complex alloys, maybe you will have 1087 00:56:11,246 --> 00:56:14,124 five different metals 1088 00:56:15,291 --> 00:56:17,877 or oxides present in an alloy. 1089 00:56:17,961 --> 00:56:21,923 This sample has an astounding array 1090 00:56:22,007 --> 00:56:23,425 of metals present. (pensive music) 1091 00:56:23,508 --> 00:56:25,218 - [Jeremy] We're talking about something 1092 00:56:25,301 --> 00:56:28,680 that is highly advanced and fabricated by an intelligence. 1093 00:56:28,763 --> 00:56:30,515 Is that correct? - Yes. 1094 00:56:30,598 --> 00:56:32,559 - Straight up? - Yes, straight up. 1095 00:56:32,642 --> 00:56:35,812 This material had to be fabricated by something, 1096 00:56:35,895 --> 00:56:38,982 by somebody, by an intelligence 1097 00:56:39,065 --> 00:56:42,652 that was very sophisticated. 1098 00:56:42,736 --> 00:56:46,865 Somebody went to a great deal of effort 1099 00:56:46,948 --> 00:56:49,492 to create this object. 1100 00:56:49,576 --> 00:56:52,662 - [Jeremy] You know, I was told that there are four types 1101 00:56:52,746 --> 00:56:56,207 of isotopes that are found on earth in zinc. 1102 00:56:56,291 --> 00:56:57,834 Those are the four that they analyzed? 1103 00:56:57,917 --> 00:57:00,378 - There's a fifth one in very small quantity, 1104 00:57:00,462 --> 00:57:03,548 but they basically looked at the big four. 1105 00:57:03,590 --> 00:57:06,301 - [Jeremy] Okay, so they're created here by, 1106 00:57:06,384 --> 00:57:08,553 within our star system, the supernova that created 1107 00:57:08,636 --> 00:57:11,097 our star systems and our neighboring star systems. 1108 00:57:11,181 --> 00:57:13,058 - Yes. - And they have certain ratios 1109 00:57:13,099 --> 00:57:16,561 that are typically found as far as the concentration 1110 00:57:16,644 --> 00:57:18,730 of these different types of zinc, 1111 00:57:18,813 --> 00:57:23,318 so zinc-64, zinc-66, this kind of thing? 1112 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:24,486 - Yes. 1113 00:57:24,569 --> 00:57:26,905 - [Jeremy] What ratios are you seeing there? 1114 00:57:26,988 --> 00:57:29,199 Are they out of proportion with terrestrial ratios, 1115 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,742 and what does that tell us? 1116 00:57:30,825 --> 00:57:34,704 - So in any sample, you expect some deviation 1117 00:57:34,788 --> 00:57:38,917 from the normal isotopic ratio of any of these elements. 1118 00:57:38,958 --> 00:57:41,252 But what we're seeing here is 1119 00:57:41,336 --> 00:57:45,965 a dramatic shift in the isotopic ratios 1120 00:57:46,049 --> 00:57:50,929 of the sample versus the average isotopic ratio 1121 00:57:51,012 --> 00:57:53,515 of zinc found on earth. (pensive music) 1122 00:57:53,598 --> 00:57:55,684 This zinc is from some other part 1123 00:57:55,767 --> 00:57:57,769 of the galaxy at a minimum. 1124 00:57:59,354 --> 00:58:01,439 I'm telling you it's not from here. 1125 00:58:03,191 --> 00:58:05,944 This sample did not come from our solar system, 1126 00:58:06,027 --> 00:58:07,612 much less the earth. 1127 00:58:07,696 --> 00:58:10,407 These isotopes provided us the evidence. 1128 00:58:12,409 --> 00:58:14,911 These are not naturally occurring on earth. 1129 00:58:16,121 --> 00:58:19,082 - [Jeremy] My mind is still kind of frozen with shock. 1130 00:58:19,165 --> 00:58:21,376 I did not expect there to be proof. 1131 00:58:23,128 --> 00:58:24,754 You're just nodding your head, but I'm freaked out. 1132 00:58:24,838 --> 00:58:28,258 - We have material that has been pulled out of a man's leg 1133 00:58:28,341 --> 00:58:30,301 that should not exist. 1134 00:58:30,385 --> 00:58:33,388 This sample could not have been made on earth 1135 00:58:33,471 --> 00:58:35,557 because the isotopic ratios 1136 00:58:36,558 --> 00:58:38,893 do not support the idea 1137 00:58:38,977 --> 00:58:42,272 or the theory that this sample was made here. 1138 00:58:42,355 --> 00:58:44,149 - [Jeremy] I mean, so you got the smoking gun, 1139 00:58:44,232 --> 00:58:47,402 but it's in the form of an isotopic analysis. 1140 00:58:47,485 --> 00:58:50,613 How do you make someone understand the implication 1141 00:58:50,697 --> 00:58:52,574 of those numbers? 1142 00:58:52,657 --> 00:58:55,326 (siren wailing) 1143 00:58:57,746 --> 00:59:00,498 (paper rustling) 1144 00:59:01,708 --> 00:59:02,876 Or maybe you don't. 1145 00:59:02,959 --> 00:59:04,586 (pensive music) 1146 00:59:04,669 --> 00:59:08,882 - The $64 trillion question remains. 1147 00:59:08,965 --> 00:59:11,801 How did these ratios get here? 1148 00:59:11,885 --> 00:59:16,389 This is not a ratio of zinc that you would find 1149 00:59:16,473 --> 00:59:18,183 that would be naturally occurring. 1150 00:59:19,225 --> 00:59:22,228 This has nothing to do with naturally occurring zinc 1151 00:59:22,312 --> 00:59:27,275 in our solar system or in the surrounding solar systems. 1152 00:59:27,359 --> 00:59:30,653 Within our neighborhood of the galaxy, 1153 00:59:30,737 --> 00:59:32,113 this did not come from. 1154 00:59:33,281 --> 00:59:36,368 These elements were created in a supernova 1155 00:59:36,451 --> 00:59:41,164 that was manufacturing these elements in different ratios. 1156 00:59:42,916 --> 00:59:45,543 - [Jeremy] Do you think, from what you've seen, 1157 00:59:45,627 --> 00:59:49,589 these isotopes show us non-terrestriality? 1158 00:59:49,673 --> 00:59:50,548 - Yes, I do. 1159 00:59:55,220 --> 01:00:00,850 - [Jeremy] Would you consider this scientific report 1160 01:00:00,934 --> 01:00:02,852 of the isotopes a smoking gun? 1161 01:00:02,936 --> 01:00:03,770 - Yes, I would. 1162 01:00:05,939 --> 01:00:09,109 I don't believe any human made this sample. 1163 01:00:09,192 --> 01:00:12,362 (pensive music) 1164 01:00:12,445 --> 01:00:14,948 - [Jeremy] I'm just trying to figure out my next step. 1165 01:00:17,575 --> 01:00:18,660 I mean, I guess we're at a point 1166 01:00:18,743 --> 01:00:21,246 where we can say big questions. 1167 01:00:21,329 --> 01:00:23,915 - Yes, huge questions. 1168 01:00:23,998 --> 01:00:26,001 (birds chirping) 1169 01:00:26,084 --> 01:00:30,463 (pensive music) (birds continue chirping) 1170 01:00:30,547 --> 01:00:33,842 This is the most significant pieces 1171 01:00:33,925 --> 01:00:38,888 of actual hardcore data we have ever seen 1172 01:00:39,014 --> 01:00:42,934 in the field of UFO and extraterrestrial. 1173 01:00:43,018 --> 01:00:44,477 That is white whirl. 1174 01:00:44,561 --> 01:00:48,815 This is the single most compelling piece of data 1175 01:00:48,898 --> 01:00:50,316 that's ever been generated. 1176 01:00:51,151 --> 01:00:53,111 So that's a mystery. 1177 01:00:53,194 --> 01:00:58,199 But the implication of this is stretching my imagination. 1178 01:00:58,408 --> 01:01:01,911 (pensive music continues) 1179 01:01:05,623 --> 01:01:07,250 - [Jeremy] This is just about the point 1180 01:01:07,334 --> 01:01:09,377 where I feel utterly lost. 1181 01:01:11,212 --> 01:01:13,798 I've been investigating Dr. Leir's claims 1182 01:01:13,882 --> 01:01:15,508 for almost a year now. 1183 01:01:15,592 --> 01:01:18,845 It's been one step forward, two steps back. 1184 01:01:20,972 --> 01:01:22,474 So here are the facts. 1185 01:01:23,391 --> 01:01:28,146 Patient 17 had a strange object taken out of his leg. 1186 01:01:28,188 --> 01:01:32,442 It was analyzed and interpreted by Dr. Leir's team. 1187 01:01:32,525 --> 01:01:35,070 They believe the object is proof 1188 01:01:35,153 --> 01:01:38,948 of advanced non-human intelligence engaging humanity. 1189 01:01:41,659 --> 01:01:45,914 Patient 17 and I are less convinced. 1190 01:01:47,582 --> 01:01:51,961 I called the lab, and they stood behind their results. 1191 01:01:52,045 --> 01:01:55,590 When I asked them if the isotopic results were consistent 1192 01:01:55,674 --> 01:01:57,759 with non-terrestriality, 1193 01:01:57,842 --> 01:02:02,055 they quickly admitted that errors can occur. 1194 01:02:02,138 --> 01:02:05,183 I presented the data to the head meteorite specialist 1195 01:02:05,266 --> 01:02:08,520 at UCLA, and he basically told me 1196 01:02:08,603 --> 01:02:10,146 that we would need more tests 1197 01:02:10,188 --> 01:02:12,315 to determine the object's origin. 1198 01:02:13,525 --> 01:02:17,278 Innumerable scientists from material specialists 1199 01:02:17,362 --> 01:02:21,074 to nanotechnicians have interpreted the data, 1200 01:02:21,157 --> 01:02:22,992 and it's a coin toss. 1201 01:02:23,076 --> 01:02:25,954 Some find the composition anomalous. 1202 01:02:26,037 --> 01:02:28,415 Others say it's what you might expect 1203 01:02:28,498 --> 01:02:30,834 to find in a common alloy. 1204 01:02:31,918 --> 01:02:34,796 Most simply say, "We need more tests." 1205 01:02:35,714 --> 01:02:40,343 With Dr. Leir gone, our only hope to further this case is 1206 01:02:40,427 --> 01:02:44,848 to get our hands on the sample and continue the quest. 1207 01:02:46,516 --> 01:02:48,935 This has proven to be a challenge. 1208 01:02:52,313 --> 01:02:56,484 (paper rustling) (pensive music continues) 1209 01:02:56,526 --> 01:02:59,279 (chair creaking) 1210 01:03:05,827 --> 01:03:08,413 (pen clanking) 1211 01:03:12,834 --> 01:03:15,128 (phone ringing) 1212 01:03:15,211 --> 01:03:17,047 (paper rustling) 1213 01:03:17,130 --> 01:03:19,799 (phone ringing) 1214 01:03:20,759 --> 01:03:22,677 - [Voicemail] Please leave your message after the tone. 1215 01:03:22,761 --> 01:03:25,096 (phone beeps) 1216 01:03:25,180 --> 01:03:26,639 - [Jeremy] Hey, man, it's me. 1217 01:03:27,766 --> 01:03:31,686 I've been trying for months to get ahold of Steve. 1218 01:03:31,728 --> 01:03:33,605 He's changed his phone number. 1219 01:03:33,688 --> 01:03:36,441 He won't answer any of my messages. 1220 01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:40,570 I just don't know if we're gonna be able 1221 01:03:40,653 --> 01:03:42,906 to get the sample back 1222 01:03:42,989 --> 01:03:45,658 or if we're gonna be able to figure out what this is. 1223 01:03:46,868 --> 01:03:48,244 I'm extremely frustrated. 1224 01:03:48,328 --> 01:03:52,082 I mean, I figure the only thing left is 1225 01:03:53,041 --> 01:03:55,043 to go bang on his door. 1226 01:03:56,753 --> 01:04:00,131 You know, we've come this far, man. 1227 01:04:01,299 --> 01:04:03,259 We need to do more tests. 1228 01:04:03,343 --> 01:04:08,348 (tape whirring) (pensive music) 1229 01:04:12,769 --> 01:04:15,480 It seems that we each have front row seats 1230 01:04:15,563 --> 01:04:19,901 for this cosmic symphony, an ultra-dimensional theater 1231 01:04:19,984 --> 01:04:22,987 where we are observers and participants. 1232 01:04:26,908 --> 01:04:29,285 We are actors on this multi-galactic 1233 01:04:29,369 --> 01:04:32,789 and incomprehensibly mysterious stage. 1234 01:04:32,872 --> 01:04:36,292 And the price of admission is simply your own curiosity. 1235 01:04:39,379 --> 01:04:40,130 (organ clanking) 1236 01:04:40,213 --> 01:04:43,299 (heartbeat thudding) 1237 01:04:55,937 --> 01:04:59,941 (energy pulsating and whirring) 1238 01:05:10,744 --> 01:05:13,204 The problem with peeking behind the curtain is 1239 01:05:13,288 --> 01:05:16,207 that you can't unsee and you can't unknow. 1240 01:05:17,125 --> 01:05:19,419 Your curiosity becomes weaponized 1241 01:05:19,461 --> 01:05:22,964 and from that moment forward, you become a mechanism, 1242 01:05:23,048 --> 01:05:25,342 a beacon radiating with desire 1243 01:05:25,425 --> 01:05:29,220 magnitudes greater than you ever dreamed possible. 1244 01:05:30,930 --> 01:05:34,434 (pensive music continues) 1245 01:05:38,646 --> 01:05:43,610 ("Theme from Close Encounters of the Third Kind") 1246 01:05:49,074 --> 01:05:53,036 (sound waves whistling) (static hissing) 1247 01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:58,083 ("Theme from Close Encounters of the Third Kind") 1248 01:06:02,921 --> 01:06:07,926 (sound waves whistling) (static hissing) 1249 01:06:08,009 --> 01:06:12,430 (being speaking in foreign language) 1250 01:06:15,767 --> 01:06:18,353 (signal pinging) (satellite whirring) 1251 01:06:18,436 --> 01:06:21,106 (pensive music) 1252 01:06:38,748 --> 01:06:42,252 (pensive music continues) 1253 01:06:58,601 --> 01:07:02,105 (pensive music continues) 1254 01:07:18,621 --> 01:07:22,208 (pensive music continues) 97580

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