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(pensive music)
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(footsteps plodding)
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- [Jeremy] I often wonder about the nature of reality,
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about our relationship to the creative force
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that forged the particles of our stars
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and intertwined them with
the molecules of our bodies.
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Who are we, and where are we actually sitting
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within the architecture of our universe?
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Are we alone, or is the answer simply stranger
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than we can think?
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My name is Jeremy Corbell.
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I seek to weaponize your curiosity.
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And if you're ready to suspend your own prejudice,
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welcome to the world of extraordinary beliefs.
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(pensive music continues)
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(pensive music continues)
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(brooding music)
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(voice speaking indistinctly)
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(tone pulsating)
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(patient 17 exhales)
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(water sloshing)
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(patient exhaling)
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(patient 17 sniffs)
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(stove clicking)
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(gas whooshing)
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(stove clicking)
(gas hissing)
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(brooding music)
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(pan clanking)
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(egg thudding)
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(egg cracking)
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(egg sizzling)
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(toaster clattering)
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- [Patient 17] I've just so grown tired
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of all of this already.
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My world will not be turned upside down.
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I just wanna live my life.
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I mean, you don't wanna relive this.
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Either people are gonna believe you, or you don't.
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It's kind of put me on edge again.
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(bells chiming)
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(footsteps plodding)
(floor creaking)
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(keys jangling)
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(latch clicking)
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Dr. Roger Leir did confirm I
was gonna be patient number 17.
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- [Jeremy] So you're gonna get this thing out?
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- [Patient 17] That's what he's telling me.
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- [Jeremy] And what did you
know of Dr. Leir before?
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- [Patient 17] Absolutely nothing,
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I knew nothing about Dr.
Leir until I was introduced.
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(engine roaring)
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- [Jeremy] Would you consider your life
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to have been completely normal up until the point
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where you've engaged these
people interested in your story?
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- [Patient 17] My life has been normal,
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but it did get thrown into a storm
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once I met these UFO folks.
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(engine roaring)
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When Dr. Leir and his associates told me
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that this could be an implant,
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now it's all been brought back up to the surface.
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I'm wondering what I'm gonna see in the shadows,
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or is there missing time?
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This is scarier than hell.
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(engine roaring)
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(brooding music)
(engine humming)
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- [Jeremy] So you've met Dr. Leir.
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Do you trust him?
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- [Patient 17] You know, I don't trust anybody
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in today's world.
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(engine roaring)
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I just want all this to end.
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I just want it removed, not
have to worry about a piece
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of metal floating around in my body.
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(air whooshing)
(flesh squelching)
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(insects chirping)
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(sound waves whistling)
(static hissing)
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(radio frequencies whirring)
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- [Radio Host] Good evening, everyone.
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You're in the right place at the right time.
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This is "Coast to Coast AM."
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We're gonna be joined by Dr. Roger Leir,
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one of the most important leaders in the search
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for physical evidence in the field of ufology.
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As listeners to this program know,
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he's been on the program many times.
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He and his surgical team have performed all kinds
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of surgeries on alleged alien abductees.
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(tone blaring)
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(radio frequencies whirring)
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(birds chirping and squawking)
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(traffic whooshing)
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(cart clattering)
(birds chirping)
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(pensive music)
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- [Dr. Leir] This mystery is
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kinda like a musical composition.
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If you're missing a note or two,
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you probably wouldn't be able to make sense of it all.
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(heartbeat thudding)
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(gentle organ music)
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- [Jeremy] I was recently
introduced to a surgeon who claims
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to remove implants, nanotechnology microchips
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embedded by aliens, non-humans
monitoring our earth.
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He talked about abductions,
scalar wave transmissions,
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and a program to study or manipulate the human race.
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Armed with a patient, a scalpel, black lights,
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and a stud finder, (device beeping)
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I was eager to verify the authenticity
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of this alleged off-world implant technology.
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- It's not broadcasting in
this electromagnetic spectrum
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at all but is using scalar wave technology.
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And then when we use our electromagnetic devices
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and pick up a radio wave,
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we're actually reading a harmonic.
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- [Technician] It would be right about here.
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I feel something vaguely.
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Whether that's the foreign
material or not, I don't know.
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We've got the X-ray with us right here.
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We lay it down on his leg.
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You can see this little spot
here that shows through.
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- [Patient 17] Yeah.
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- [Technician] So it would be about here.
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So, you know, sometimes you
talk yourself into something.
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You're not sure if you really feel it or no,
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but you have to know it when you're gonna do it.
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(device beeping)
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- [Dr. Leir] It's gotta be right there.
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(device continues beeping)
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- [Jeremy] Well, you have optics anyway, right?
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You have ultrasound optics you're using?
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- [Technician] Right here, yeah, so I'll show 'em
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when I do the ultrasound, so we're not gonna guess it.
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We're gonna find it.
- Yeah.
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- [Technician] So this is the ultrasound goo.
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So I'm gonna go straight up and down on this.
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- [Jeremy] So, Dr. Leir, what
are we experiencing right now?
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- We're using ultrasound to try
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and locate the exact position of the object.
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It's not easy because it's not only superficial,
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but it's also close to the bone.
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So we're using ultrasound to try and locate it.
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- That's it right there.
(person whistling)
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- [Dr. Leir] Yeah.
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(technician laughs)
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- Pretty sure, Doctor, somebody
just didn't slip you a 50,
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just cut 'em.
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(Dr. Leir laughing)
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- So now we're gonna draw the patient's blood,
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and then we put it in a centrifuge, and spin it down,
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and separate the cellular portion
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of the blood from the liquid.
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(machine whirring)
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And then that cellular portion is then mixed
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a anticoagulant preservative.
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And that's what we actually use to put the object in.
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Then when we take out small pieces
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of the surrounding tissue,
that goes into a pathology lab.
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The object undoubtedly is some form of metal.
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So that goes into a metallurgical process,
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one step at a time where we look at it
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under an electron microscope and some other tests
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that we do to look for isotopes
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and non-terrestriality, -
[Jeremy] Non-terrestriality.
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It is alleged that many of
these mysterious objects
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that Dr. Leir and his
team have removed display
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bizarre characteristics such
as having nanotopography
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and metallic composition described by some labs
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as exotic meteorite material,
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not having been forged in the furnace of our own sun.
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- [Researcher] I don't think
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that you've been abducted recently-
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- No.
- Based on this.
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- [Jeremy] As a surgeon, I know it's not your position
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to speculate on the origin of this object,
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but obviously, you know the story going around
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that maybe there's a correlation
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between the abduction phenomena
and these types of objects.
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- Well, it's interesting.
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I mean, I don't know if you wanna quote me on this,
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but I just don't believe it's alien.
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I believe it's some earthly particle
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that's from some carpentry thing.
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They whack something.
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A little piece of metal flew off and stuck in 'em.
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They don't remember it 'cause it was so tiny.
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And then those people, enough people have 'em,
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people with abductive experiences (laughs)
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also may have the metal, so I don't know.
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He's doing the analysis on the metal.
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So I'm not, and that's where the things come in.
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I would reanalyze the metal,
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have another group analyze it and look at it
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if it was me doing it.
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- [Researcher] Yeah, that up there, yeah, sort of-
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- [Jeremy] A foreign object was about to be removed
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from a man carrying this burden for over a decade,
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nefarious implant by an
extraterrestrial big brother
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or a piece of childhood shrapnel?
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I personally wanted to see
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what this foreign object was made of.
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- This piece of metal's in my leg or whatever it is,
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and it's been there for God how long,
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so be nice yank it out, do the experiments on it,
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and see what it is.
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Like I said, I have some people in my life
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that just shake their heads.
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My girlfriend, my mom, a few
other people are just saying,
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"Don't let 'em do it."
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It's a small incision.
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It's not like they're going into my lung,
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a few stitches, and it's a pretty simple procedure.
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- [Jeremy] Small incision, big mystery.
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- Yes.
(Jeremy laughing)
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- [Jeremy] Were you surprised
when they used the device
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for frequency, that what was in your leg seemed
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to be emitting-
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- That's pretty amazing.
- A frequency?
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- If that test is accurate, this is really an implant.
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Just by fluke, we found it.
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One thing led to another, and here we are today.
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- [Jeremy] Thing, I mean it sounds like you've had
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some powerful experiences
that have at least led you
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to entertaining the idea that, you know,
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there are non-humans, they are visiting the planet,
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and that, you know, they are engaging humanity.
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- [Patient 17] The memories were as a child.
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I thought I had a couple abductions.
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Parents put locks high on the
door when I was a young guy
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so I wouldn't drown in the pool,
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and they'd find me outside, and
the locks were still locked.
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I remember waking up and being elevated on my back,
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straight up and feeling my
nightgown being pulled back.
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My thoughts were, "Man, I'm really going up quick
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if you can feel the clothes on
your body being pulled back."
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So that was, like, the last time.
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This felt like they were up to no good.
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- [Jeremy] Have you ever seen a UFO?
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- [Patient 17] No.
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- [Jeremy] Never have?
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- [Patient 17] Not that I remember.
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- You've witnessed-
- There's no insanity
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in my family, and we're healthy as logs,
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and this has somehow happened.
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- [Researcher] That's my little incision.
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We spread it a little bit, and the question is,
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is it next to the skin, or is it next to the fascia?
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Well, I think it's close to both.
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- [Dr. Leir] Probably.
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Well, I think it said it was subcutaneous,
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so it's probably between the skin and the fascia.
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- [Researcher] We're gonna use a little metal
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with this thing, see if I feel it click.
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No.
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Sometimes you can find 'em just by a little click.
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No.
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- [Dr. Leir] Usually, oh, what was that?
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- [Jeremy] As I watched hopeful
believers slice an opening
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into the flesh suit of a living man,
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I began to reflect on exactly what was going on.
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An alleged abductee, patient number 17,
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standing at over six foot nine inches tall,
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was a human monolith, a force of nature,
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and like the old cowboys of past,
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an absolutely honest man,
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one of those people, soft spoken, stoic,
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who is genuinely looking for answers to questions
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that have plagued him since childhood.
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And all I could think was,
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what the fuck is about to be
pulled out of this man's leg?
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- [Researcher] Can you
see it? Little spot there?
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- Oh, yeah, there it is.
- Little black spot.
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- Yeah, yeah, right there.
- That is it.
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Now it's a little bigger than that. See?
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So we'll get it with some
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of the surrounding tissue around it.
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- [Jeremy] No wonder it was so
invisible in the ultrasound.
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- It wasn't very big.
- Wow.
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- [Researcher] So that is the entire thing right there.
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I'll put it right here, right there.
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I'll shine the light around it a little better.
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(heartbeat thudding)
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Here, I'll show it to you.
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That's the whole thing.
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- Wow.
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- Let's see, we have a sponge.
- Amazing.
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- We'll put the soft tissue in that,
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and then this will go in the serum.
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So did you wanna get a closeup of this?
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(heartbeat thudding)
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Don't put it in anything till
I dissect off the tissue.
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(researchers chattering indistinctly)
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I'll leave a little piece of soft tissue on there
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so that when we use things
like electron microscope,
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which we'll do with SEAL Labs,
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that soft tissue will show up
under the electron microscope.
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- [Jeremy] So, Roger, a success today?
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- Oh, yeah, I'm very happy with the results
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that we got today, you know.
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The object, it appeared, it
went through all the testing,
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we got it out, and now we're gonna, you know, look at it
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and see what both the biological
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and the metallurgical
components are that it's made.
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And that will determine, you
know, whether we have something
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that's out of the rose garden
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or something that's non-terrestrial.
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- [Jeremy] Do not underestimate the cosmopolitics
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of an alleged alien implant removal surgery.
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Word had spread, and many
faithful arrived with camcorders
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and flooded the waiting room with anticipation.
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Patient number 17 quietly made his exit
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through the back door, avoiding
the crowd that had formed
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to glimpse that which has yet to be explained.
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- [Dr. Leir] Just as I'm
learning more about music
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and harmonics, I'm also learning more
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about the nature of the cosmos and reality.
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(heartbeat thudding)
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- [Jeremy] When traversing uncharted territories
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and exploring alleged
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and advanced nanocybernetic
transmitters believed
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to have been embedded into a human host
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to monitor unknown rhythms, fields,
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and energies, to transmit scalar wave frequencies
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to beings with hidden intentions
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who either traverse space-time
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or dimensionally shift into our reality.
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There are key moments in your investigation
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that require a monumental leap of faith,
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or of course, you can just go
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to your local scanning electron microscopy lab
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to actually see what it is that you have.
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- My name is Steve Colbern.
I'm a material scientist.
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I work on carbon nanotubes at my primary job,
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and I'm Roger's head scientist
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in the ANS research organization that he founded.
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- [Dr. Leir] Must be stuck some place.
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There it is.
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- [Researcher] Religion made those guys, too.
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It's all one world?
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- Yeah.
- That's what they're saying?
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- Kind of.
- This is
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the official testing, a foreign body
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that was removed from you.
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Are you curious about it all?
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- Absolutely.
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- What do you-
- A mystery.
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- [Jeremy] It is a mystery.
348
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Do you think we'll solve it today?
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- Yes, we will.
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- So-
- Yeah.
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- [Researcher] Thousands of 'em.
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- [Researcher] Is it shining on the inside, Steve?
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- Yeah, we see metal.
354
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- Cool.
- Definitely metal.
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All right, let's load it back up.
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- [Dr. Leir] Now do you wanna remount it
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so that we got it sitting up on end?
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- [Researcher] Test it with the gauss meter?
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- [Dr. Leir] That would be a good idea.
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- [Researcher] Hold on, Steve gauss meter test.
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- [Dr. Leir] Finger off,
just hold it straight up.
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Okay.
(device clicking)
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Hmm, you're getting a little bit.
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- A little bit.
- Little bit.
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- [Researcher] Not much.
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(machine whirring)
(pensive music)
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- [Steve] This diagnostic's really unstructured.
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- Yeah?
- Checking.
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(machine whirring)
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- There.
- Right there?
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- [Jeremy] With the power to look at the object
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at almost the atomic level,
an alien landscape emerged
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similar to topographical surveys
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of our stars' celestial satellites
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orbiting our solar center.
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Structures and shapes began
to take form within my mind.
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Spectral analysis, seeking
explanation of composition,
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measurements of features,
which looked like mountains
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and valleys, were taken with great precision.
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I was hopeful that today patient number 17
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would be given some answers.
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- [Steve] A nerve would also probably wither up
383
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under the electron bombardment.
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(heartbeat thudding)
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- [Jeremy] So, Roger, is there
anything that surprised you
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so far from today's analysis?
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- Yes,
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that the visualization of something
389
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that may be a carbon nanotube
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at a low magnification is kind of surprising.
391
00:20:48,164 --> 00:20:51,626
- [Jeremy] And what would prove
that it's a carbon nanotube?
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- Well, when we look
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at the chemical components,
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which is the peaks on the screen, we can see that,
395
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on that particular one, it's all carbon.
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Then we'll have to go on with other testing
397
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with what's called Raman spectroscopy
398
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and a couple of other tests
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to determine actually if it is a carbon nanotube.
400
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- [Jeremy] Will you be able to do that today or?
401
00:21:21,656 --> 00:21:22,490
- No.
402
00:21:24,159 --> 00:21:26,202
- [Jeremy] You got your first look at what, you know,
403
00:21:26,286 --> 00:21:27,662
they've pulled outta ya.
404
00:21:27,746 --> 00:21:28,955
What are your thoughts?
405
00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:29,873
- It's just interesting.
406
00:21:29,956 --> 00:21:31,374
Like I said, it still could be this is
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a rock from childhood,
408
00:21:32,876 --> 00:21:36,963
or it could be a meteorite piece from space.
409
00:21:37,047 --> 00:21:38,965
You just never know until breakdown.
410
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- [Jeremy] You're saying is,
411
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"I'm just trying to
figure out what this is."
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- The mechanics of this object in my leg
413
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'cause I consider myself a Christian,
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and if this thing's mister space alien deal,
415
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it kind of blows everything I've believed in
416
00:21:53,188 --> 00:21:56,775
for the last 50 years out the
water, I mean, technically.
417
00:21:58,276 --> 00:22:00,653
I mean... Yeah.
- It doesn't go around
418
00:22:00,737 --> 00:22:04,866
implanting people, and there's, you know what I mean?
419
00:22:04,949 --> 00:22:07,327
It's just kinda puts Christianity
420
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and the question of, is it true or not?
421
00:22:10,705 --> 00:22:12,749
In a way, I hope this is just a rock
422
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or something from the past.
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For my beliefs, if it is, I kind of start rethinking.
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- [Jeremy] Would it shake the foundations
425
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of your faith if this was something
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from another intelligent species?
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- It could definitely.
428
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- [Jeremy] Did you feel that we saw
429
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something anomalous today?
430
00:22:33,687 --> 00:22:34,854
- Yeah, it was definitely anomalous,
431
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and it was very similar to several other objects
432
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that we've seen that were
removed from Roger's patients.
433
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The nerve cells grow into the membrane,
434
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and this membrane forms the interface
435
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between the nervous system
436
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and the electronics of the device.
437
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- [Jeremy] What can you say conclusively from today?
438
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- That it's probably
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a sophisticated neurotechnological device
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rather than just a fragment of something.
441
00:23:01,798 --> 00:23:05,260
These devices seem to be
deliberately inserted into people.
442
00:23:05,343 --> 00:23:06,553
There's no portal of entry,
443
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and there's never an inflammatory
response to the objects,
444
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which is, you know, highly unusual.
445
00:23:11,474 --> 00:23:14,728
It's unheard of, so when we have the path report back,
446
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that'll tell the tale as well as to whether it's one
447
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of these anomalous objects we've seen before.
448
00:23:22,402 --> 00:23:25,488
My working hypothesis is that these are
449
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nanotechnological devices from off planet
450
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that have been perfected by some society
451
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that has had this technology for a very long time.
452
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I'll send half the object in for ICP-MS analysis,
453
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and that will give us some isotopic ratios
454
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and tell us whether the material is from off planet.
455
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(birds chirping)
456
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- [Researcher] I mean, everybody wants to squeeze
457
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every last bit of information
out, every piece of evidence
458
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they can possibly get to try to solve the puzzle
459
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of what's going on.
460
00:24:01,107 --> 00:24:03,526
(bell tolling)
461
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(garage door clattering)
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- [Jeremy] While the scientific team was busy
463
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analyzing the composition,
structures, and isotopic ratios
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of the surgically removed mystery object,
465
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I decided to meet up with patient number 17
466
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and find out more about his abductive experiences
467
00:24:24,339 --> 00:24:27,676
and his post-operation state of mind.
468
00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:29,469
You think that this is sinister.
469
00:24:29,511 --> 00:24:31,012
Like, when you saw the eyes
470
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of those three oval-head
alien dudes that you tackled
471
00:24:34,974 --> 00:24:36,935
or tried to tackle in Las Vegas,
472
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you said that you could tell it was sinister.
473
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You could tell it was-
474
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- They're not there to take you out for pizza.
475
00:24:42,649 --> 00:24:43,441
That's for sure.
476
00:24:43,483 --> 00:24:46,695
I mean, they're there to manipulate you somehow,
477
00:24:47,529 --> 00:24:50,615
not to save you or give you a cure for cancer.
478
00:24:50,699 --> 00:24:52,951
They have their own agendas,
479
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and if it didn't, it'd be disclosure already.
480
00:24:56,371 --> 00:24:59,708
I mean, it has to be something
behind this to keep it quiet.
481
00:24:59,749 --> 00:25:02,043
- Where did you come to that understanding?
482
00:25:02,127 --> 00:25:05,880
- Of course, their appearances are disturbing,
483
00:25:05,964 --> 00:25:06,756
but it's a sense.
484
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,633
Like, when you meet somebody
that's nice and friendly,
485
00:25:08,717 --> 00:25:10,427
you go, "Hey, it's a nice person,"
486
00:25:10,510 --> 00:25:13,930
And with these three people, things in my room,
487
00:25:14,014 --> 00:25:15,849
you just knew, well, they're in your house
488
00:25:15,932 --> 00:25:17,225
without your permission.
489
00:25:17,308 --> 00:25:19,936
You know they're about to maybe take you somewhere
490
00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:21,271
and do whatever they want with you.
491
00:25:21,354 --> 00:25:23,523
I mean, how can that be a good thing?
492
00:25:23,606 --> 00:25:25,025
There's no way they rang the doorbell
493
00:25:25,108 --> 00:25:26,735
and said, "Hey, we're from outer space.
494
00:25:26,818 --> 00:25:27,902
Wanna have a beer?"
495
00:25:27,986 --> 00:25:32,991
I mean, they're gangsters, you know.
496
00:25:33,074 --> 00:25:35,118
Alien gangsters are doing what they want.
497
00:25:37,787 --> 00:25:39,039
God knows what they're doing to people.
498
00:25:39,122 --> 00:25:41,624
At least I was caught and released.
499
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- [Jeremy] What would you say to an alien
500
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that was trying to abduct you if you could?
501
00:25:46,671 --> 00:25:48,298
- I don't know if I'd say anything
502
00:25:48,381 --> 00:25:50,550
rather than just treating like any burglar
503
00:25:50,633 --> 00:25:51,926
that was trying to break into my house
504
00:25:52,010 --> 00:25:54,387
and mess with my family is
505
00:25:54,471 --> 00:25:56,848
shoot 'em dead, you know, take 'em down.
506
00:25:56,931 --> 00:26:00,518
I mean, I think they're criminals.
507
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,312
They're doing what they want
508
00:26:02,395 --> 00:26:06,983
and a lot of cruel things to people, and be nice if,
509
00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:12,072
little payback 'cause this is unreasonable.
510
00:26:12,155 --> 00:26:14,407
How many abductees do you really need?
511
00:26:14,449 --> 00:26:16,951
How many people's lives do you have to ruin?
512
00:26:17,035 --> 00:26:21,623
I mean, you know, man up, show your face, or take off.
513
00:26:21,706 --> 00:26:24,125
And for them to, you know,
514
00:26:24,209 --> 00:26:26,586
always take you on a deserted road or late at night,
515
00:26:26,670 --> 00:26:28,922
they're obviously cowards on top of it.
516
00:26:29,005 --> 00:26:31,549
So they're criminals. They're cowards.
517
00:26:34,052 --> 00:26:35,220
If they're that advanced,
518
00:26:35,303 --> 00:26:38,056
they should be able to talk
to us and explain things out
519
00:26:38,139 --> 00:26:41,643
and, you know, comfort us rather than
520
00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:45,271
like mean little kids with a magnifying glass
521
00:26:45,355 --> 00:26:50,944
frying ants on a sunny day, cowards, so leave me alone,
522
00:26:51,027 --> 00:26:55,031
and I hope I can take one of you out when it's possible.
523
00:26:55,115 --> 00:26:57,784
- [Jeremy] You fought back
against these alien gangsters.
524
00:26:57,867 --> 00:26:59,202
I mean, you did that day.
525
00:26:59,285 --> 00:27:02,997
- Yep, I was ready to duke it out with 'em.
526
00:27:03,081 --> 00:27:05,834
For some reason, they just didn't wanna deal with it,
527
00:27:05,917 --> 00:27:10,797
but I was able to break that trance.
528
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,881
It was really a weird feeling.
529
00:27:11,965 --> 00:27:13,758
You can't move, and it's like there's no way
530
00:27:13,842 --> 00:27:16,177
this is happening to me tonight.
531
00:27:16,219 --> 00:27:19,389
And I was able to get up and go for it.
532
00:27:19,472 --> 00:27:22,475
Yeah, that's pretty amazing, tell you the truth,
533
00:27:22,517 --> 00:27:24,936
'cause most people can't, so I was able to break.
534
00:27:24,978 --> 00:27:28,231
So they have weaknesses
535
00:27:28,314 --> 00:27:30,900
that you can break through, apparently.
536
00:27:32,068 --> 00:27:35,280
- [Jeremy] Are you saying to me that you feel strongly
537
00:27:35,363 --> 00:27:37,282
that the experiences you had were real?
538
00:27:38,199 --> 00:27:41,578
- Oh, the experiences of childhood are real memories,
539
00:27:41,661 --> 00:27:46,082
and what happened in Vegas with the two abductions
540
00:27:46,166 --> 00:27:50,045
were real, but just fine details aren't there.
541
00:27:50,128 --> 00:27:53,048
Like I said earlier, conversations,
542
00:27:53,089 --> 00:27:55,258
maybe they are doing mental blocks on people
543
00:27:55,342 --> 00:27:56,676
'cause they know how frightening it is
544
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,553
for the human race to deal with all this.
545
00:27:58,636 --> 00:28:01,139
But they still feel like we deal with animals.
546
00:28:01,222 --> 00:28:02,932
They can do what they want with us.
547
00:28:03,016 --> 00:28:05,310
- [Jeremy] Do you feel that
you were given a mental block
548
00:28:05,393 --> 00:28:07,520
from the experiences that you had?
549
00:28:07,604 --> 00:28:09,814
- Absolutely, there's no other way
550
00:28:09,898 --> 00:28:11,608
they could have made me forget about it.
551
00:28:11,691 --> 00:28:15,362
So however that's done, I'm glad that's possible
552
00:28:15,445 --> 00:28:18,114
because just knowing they were there in my room
553
00:28:18,198 --> 00:28:20,742
from childhood, sometimes in young adult
554
00:28:20,825 --> 00:28:25,121
and with this possible implant,
you kind of feel violated.
555
00:28:25,205 --> 00:28:27,499
I mean, these people are, like, kidnapping you.
556
00:28:27,582 --> 00:28:29,584
You can believe what you want,
557
00:28:32,087 --> 00:28:33,838
but unless you get other people to believe, too,
558
00:28:33,922 --> 00:28:36,299
it just seems like a fairytale.
559
00:28:36,383 --> 00:28:37,509
I mean, it means nothing.
560
00:28:37,550 --> 00:28:40,929
You know, but if you tell people the story,
561
00:28:41,012 --> 00:28:44,766
they look at you like you're crazy, or you're a fool,
562
00:28:44,849 --> 00:28:47,227
or your religious friends think
563
00:28:47,268 --> 00:28:48,395
you're going to the dark side
564
00:28:48,478 --> 00:28:50,939
'cause if there's aliens, there's no God,
565
00:28:51,022 --> 00:28:52,899
which means you're an atheist or something.
566
00:28:52,982 --> 00:28:57,987
So everybody has their opinion on this.
567
00:28:58,071 --> 00:28:59,489
You know, with all this going on,
568
00:28:59,572 --> 00:29:04,160
I'm just, like, a normal guy
with extraordinary experiences
569
00:29:04,244 --> 00:29:06,496
that can't really be explained.
570
00:29:06,579 --> 00:29:07,706
You know you've gone through 'em.
571
00:29:07,789 --> 00:29:11,543
But unless you meet other abductees
572
00:29:11,626 --> 00:29:15,171
or somebody in the line of work, nobody believes you.
573
00:29:15,255 --> 00:29:17,173
Nobody really cares.
574
00:29:17,257 --> 00:29:20,760
And they really just wanna put
their fingers in their ears
575
00:29:20,844 --> 00:29:22,012
and walk away.
576
00:29:22,095 --> 00:29:24,097
They're just afraid of the truth maybe.
577
00:29:24,139 --> 00:29:27,434
I mean, when it happens to them or they know somebody
578
00:29:27,517 --> 00:29:29,227
personally that this stuff happens to,
579
00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:30,770
maybe they'll open their eyes.
580
00:29:32,439 --> 00:29:35,275
Everybody thought that the
world was flat at one time.
581
00:29:35,358 --> 00:29:37,902
Those folks don't want it to be true,
582
00:29:37,986 --> 00:29:39,529
or they're afraid of the truth.
583
00:29:40,822 --> 00:29:43,575
They just weren't
nightmares. They were real.
584
00:29:43,658 --> 00:29:45,577
(pensive music)
585
00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:47,912
- [Jeremy] I joined patient number 17
586
00:29:47,996 --> 00:29:50,915
for his postoperative evaluation.
587
00:29:50,999 --> 00:29:52,834
We were to confirm with X-ray
588
00:29:52,917 --> 00:29:56,046
that the entire foreign object
was successfully removed
589
00:29:56,129 --> 00:29:58,882
and that the patient was healing properly.
590
00:29:58,965 --> 00:30:02,635
As Dr. Leir explained that
the surgery was a success,
591
00:30:02,719 --> 00:30:04,137
I started to get the sense
592
00:30:04,220 --> 00:30:08,391
that patient number 17 was slightly agitated.
593
00:30:08,475 --> 00:30:09,225
- [Patient 17] I guess you guys
594
00:30:09,309 --> 00:30:11,102
haven't analyzed the material yet?
595
00:30:11,186 --> 00:30:14,481
- Well, not anymore than we did at SEAL Labs.
596
00:30:14,564 --> 00:30:17,317
Not every lab does every test.
597
00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:18,693
- [Patient 17] But when I was talking to Richard,
598
00:30:18,777 --> 00:30:21,237
he was saying it's just a sliver of steel
599
00:30:21,321 --> 00:30:23,281
with cotton bits on it from the bandaid
600
00:30:23,365 --> 00:30:24,991
when they pulled it out.
601
00:30:25,075 --> 00:30:26,910
- No. (laughs)
602
00:30:26,993 --> 00:30:28,203
(switches clicking)
603
00:30:28,286 --> 00:30:32,624
We can see it completely devoid
of metal postoperatively,
604
00:30:35,043 --> 00:30:37,170
let's see, about two weeks.
605
00:30:39,214 --> 00:30:44,219
And evidently, we have definitively removed
606
00:30:44,427 --> 00:30:47,806
the object that was there before.
607
00:30:47,889 --> 00:30:50,600
There's no pieces left of the object.
608
00:30:50,684 --> 00:30:54,187
So it was removed what we call in toto,
609
00:30:54,229 --> 00:30:57,273
which means the whole thing was excised.
610
00:30:59,859 --> 00:31:00,610
- [Patient 17] You ever find a case
611
00:31:00,694 --> 00:31:02,362
where they put multiples on a person?
612
00:31:02,445 --> 00:31:05,323
- We did two surgeries on the same day,
613
00:31:05,407 --> 00:31:10,412
and that gentleman had one in the back of his hand
614
00:31:10,495 --> 00:31:15,458
that was also a little rod,
cantaloupe-seed-shaped object.
615
00:31:15,625 --> 00:31:17,460
And then we had a whole string of 'em
616
00:31:17,544 --> 00:31:20,046
that were about the same that looked like yours.
617
00:31:21,506 --> 00:31:23,550
- So I could still be tagged somewhere else.
618
00:31:23,633 --> 00:31:24,467
- Yeah.
619
00:31:25,552 --> 00:31:27,721
- Guess the memories I have already as a child
620
00:31:27,804 --> 00:31:31,057
and even Las Vegas, couple visits, was enough for me.
621
00:31:31,141 --> 00:31:35,520
I mean, it was just frightening to see these images.
622
00:31:35,603 --> 00:31:40,233
I mean, you just, I mean it's just frightening.
623
00:31:40,316 --> 00:31:42,110
I mean, you just know it's not of this world.
624
00:31:42,193 --> 00:31:42,944
(pensive music)
625
00:31:43,028 --> 00:31:45,113
- [Dr. Leir] Most people want to remember.
626
00:31:50,535 --> 00:31:52,579
- [Jeremy] You're kind of over it, it sounds like.
627
00:31:52,662 --> 00:31:54,289
- [Patient 17] I just wanna get back to my life
628
00:31:54,372 --> 00:31:57,959
of enjoying my family, and riding my dirt bikes,
629
00:31:58,043 --> 00:31:59,919
and move on.
630
00:31:59,961 --> 00:32:01,588
We'll get the data here shortly
631
00:32:01,671 --> 00:32:05,300
and see what it's made out of, and should be game over.
632
00:32:05,383 --> 00:32:08,094
We'll know one way or another
what the deal was in my leg.
633
00:32:09,220 --> 00:32:12,932
(pensive music continues)
634
00:32:13,016 --> 00:32:16,353
(sound waves whistling)
635
00:32:17,687 --> 00:32:22,233
(static hissing)
(radio frequencies whirring)
636
00:32:22,317 --> 00:32:24,986
(pensive music)
637
00:32:29,532 --> 00:32:30,533
- [Radio Host] Good evening, everyone.
638
00:32:30,617 --> 00:32:32,660
This is "Coast to Coast AM."
639
00:32:34,162 --> 00:32:36,039
We have sad news to report tonight.
640
00:32:36,081 --> 00:32:39,709
Prominent UFO researcher Dr.
Roger Leir has passed away
641
00:32:39,793 --> 00:32:40,877
due to a heart attack.
642
00:32:41,961 --> 00:32:44,255
Dr. Leir was a pioneer
in the investigation
643
00:32:44,339 --> 00:32:48,093
for physical evidence of
extraterrestrial contact.
644
00:32:48,176 --> 00:32:49,719
Roger will be missed.
645
00:32:49,803 --> 00:32:52,097
(static hissing)
646
00:32:52,180 --> 00:32:56,017
(device whirring and beeping)
647
00:32:59,437 --> 00:33:02,774
(sound waves whistling)
648
00:33:07,112 --> 00:33:09,989
- The isotopic ratios of most of these samples
649
00:33:10,073 --> 00:33:12,659
have been highly different
from the isotopic ratios
650
00:33:12,742 --> 00:33:14,327
of earthly elements.
651
00:33:14,411 --> 00:33:17,038
The materials come from not only a different place
652
00:33:17,122 --> 00:33:18,623
in the solar system but a different part
653
00:33:18,707 --> 00:33:20,041
of our galaxy entirely.
654
00:33:21,793 --> 00:33:24,963
This is a juvenile of that big one right there.
655
00:33:25,046 --> 00:33:27,424
They apparently turn dark when they get larger.
656
00:33:29,467 --> 00:33:30,301
(water burbling)
657
00:33:30,385 --> 00:33:35,682
And this is Cryptocoryne plant from the Amazon
658
00:33:35,765 --> 00:33:37,934
and Amazon sword plant.
659
00:33:41,688 --> 00:33:43,106
These fish are very aggressive.
660
00:33:43,189 --> 00:33:44,858
They'll eat each other given half the chance.
661
00:33:44,941 --> 00:33:48,361
So it's good to provide 'em
places to hide from each other.
662
00:33:49,529 --> 00:33:52,240
(water burbling)
663
00:33:52,282 --> 00:33:55,368
(heartbeat thudding)
664
00:33:56,244 --> 00:33:58,997
After we went to SEAL Labs,
665
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,541
Dr. Leir was in pretty
good health at that point,
666
00:34:01,624 --> 00:34:05,253
and he had an apparent heart attack,
667
00:34:05,337 --> 00:34:10,592
and they found him near death, and he died soon after.
668
00:34:10,675 --> 00:34:13,178
And that was about six weeks ago now.
669
00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:17,098
It's a great loss to the UFO community.
670
00:34:17,182 --> 00:34:19,851
And he was a good friend, and
671
00:34:20,727 --> 00:34:23,480
(water burbling)
672
00:34:25,523 --> 00:34:28,109
he was a good friend and a great research associate.
673
00:34:30,445 --> 00:34:35,450
(pensive music)
(water continues burbling)
674
00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:46,419
(glasses clanking)
675
00:34:51,675 --> 00:34:52,509
Sorry.
676
00:34:53,885 --> 00:34:56,429
(Steve sniffs)
677
00:34:59,641 --> 00:35:04,646
(water continues burbling)
(pensive music continues)
678
00:35:11,820 --> 00:35:14,531
Well, Dr. Leir worked hard
in pursuit of the truth,
679
00:35:14,614 --> 00:35:18,535
and he was striving to bring science
680
00:35:18,618 --> 00:35:23,707
to the UFO community and
bring the scientific method
681
00:35:23,748 --> 00:35:27,335
to investigate UFO sightings.
682
00:35:27,419 --> 00:35:29,379
And he was particularly
interested in hard evidence
683
00:35:29,462 --> 00:35:32,257
of UFO sightings and abductions.
684
00:35:32,298 --> 00:35:34,759
And that's why he got into the implant field
685
00:35:34,843 --> 00:35:38,221
because that's one of the only
ways we can get hard evidence
686
00:35:38,304 --> 00:35:40,557
that people have been visited by aliens
687
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,101
with these devices left behind in their bodies.
688
00:35:44,019 --> 00:35:47,105
- [Jeremy] Do you still have patient number 17's sample?
689
00:35:47,188 --> 00:35:48,023
- [Steve] Yes.
690
00:35:49,232 --> 00:35:51,860
(pensive music)
691
00:35:54,446 --> 00:35:57,157
I think most people are like the fish.
692
00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:59,200
Most of the masses of humanity like the fish,
693
00:35:59,284 --> 00:36:01,411
and they don't really know or care
694
00:36:01,494 --> 00:36:05,248
what's outside their
immediate sphere of influence.
695
00:36:05,331 --> 00:36:10,337
And we need to be better than that as a race.
696
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,673
(water burbling)
(pensive music continues)
697
00:36:13,757 --> 00:36:15,633
- [Jeremy] What are we looking to learn
698
00:36:15,717 --> 00:36:17,677
about patient number 17?
699
00:36:17,761 --> 00:36:19,554
- [Steve] The isotopic analysis will tell us
700
00:36:19,637 --> 00:36:20,889
if the material's from off planet,
701
00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:22,182
so that's very important.
702
00:36:23,933 --> 00:36:26,144
- [Jeremy] Well, if this thing is emitting frequency,
703
00:36:26,227 --> 00:36:29,647
there's gotta be a way to capture that data somehow.
704
00:36:29,731 --> 00:36:31,649
- The ultimate goal is to hack the alien internet.
705
00:36:31,733 --> 00:36:33,693
We have reason to believe there's a complex web
706
00:36:33,777 --> 00:36:36,279
of communication between aliens
707
00:36:36,321 --> 00:36:37,864
and some supercomputer someplace,
708
00:36:37,947 --> 00:36:41,117
and abductees are also plugged into this system.
709
00:36:41,201 --> 00:36:43,870
It's the biggest story of
the 20th and 21st centuries.
710
00:36:43,953 --> 00:36:45,914
It's the biggest story never told.
711
00:36:48,792 --> 00:36:50,919
(pensive music)
712
00:36:51,002 --> 00:36:55,757
(engine humming)
(birds chirping)
713
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,177
(gear stick clattering)
714
00:37:02,597 --> 00:37:07,602
(door thudding)
(birds chirping)
715
00:37:17,028 --> 00:37:22,033
(footsteps plodding)
(birds continue chirping)
716
00:37:43,263 --> 00:37:45,390
(nail gun clanking)
717
00:37:45,473 --> 00:37:50,478
(brooding music)
(birds chirping)
718
00:37:51,980 --> 00:37:52,981
(tool whirring)
719
00:37:53,064 --> 00:37:55,942
- [Jeremy] It's the waiting that will grind you down.
720
00:37:56,026 --> 00:37:59,154
It's the slow wear and tear of the mental highway.
721
00:38:00,947 --> 00:38:03,074
If it's not true, you're crazy.
722
00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:07,620
If it is true, the implications are even worse.
723
00:38:08,788 --> 00:38:12,083
How do we navigate an experience that is real to us
724
00:38:12,167 --> 00:38:14,127
but will never be real to others?
725
00:38:15,587 --> 00:38:17,756
Do we push it so far down
726
00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:20,717
that we can discount our own perception?
727
00:38:26,556 --> 00:38:29,225
(pensive music)
728
00:38:31,686 --> 00:38:34,314
(birds chirping)
729
00:38:34,356 --> 00:38:36,983
(footsteps plodding)
730
00:38:37,067 --> 00:38:39,819
It's one thing to ask a question.
731
00:38:39,903 --> 00:38:42,238
It's another to receive the answer.
732
00:38:42,322 --> 00:38:44,991
(hand knocking)
733
00:38:47,243 --> 00:38:49,287
(patient 17 and Steve chattering indistinctly)
734
00:38:49,371 --> 00:38:51,456
Is knowledge power?
735
00:38:51,498 --> 00:38:54,334
Or can knowledge be fundamentally destructive?
736
00:38:54,417 --> 00:38:55,418
We've been waiting a long time
737
00:38:55,502 --> 00:38:57,837
to find a broad spectrum elemental analysis
738
00:38:57,921 --> 00:39:00,423
and isotopic analysis that
you're gonna be able to read
739
00:39:00,507 --> 00:39:04,177
for us because we wanna know,
as patient 17 will often say,
740
00:39:04,260 --> 00:39:05,553
is this a piece of Tonka truck
741
00:39:05,637 --> 00:39:07,681
or just a rock from the ground?
742
00:39:07,764 --> 00:39:09,516
What was it that was taken out of his leg?
743
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:12,602
And this should be definitive
in some way of what it was
744
00:39:12,686 --> 00:39:16,189
that was taken out if it's anomalous or not.
745
00:39:16,231 --> 00:39:19,234
(envelope rustling)
746
00:39:24,906 --> 00:39:26,616
- We got quite a few
elements here. Let's see.
747
00:39:26,658 --> 00:39:30,036
We have boron, sodium, magnesium, aluminum,
748
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,124
silicon, phosphorus, potassium, calcium,
749
00:39:35,208 --> 00:39:38,795
titanium, chromium, manganese, iron.
750
00:39:38,878 --> 00:39:40,964
Iron's a major component,
751
00:39:41,047 --> 00:39:44,968
cobalt, nickel, copper, zinc, gallium, germanium.
752
00:39:45,051 --> 00:39:46,886
And the gallium and the germanium are indicative
753
00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:49,139
of the presence of meteoric iron.
754
00:39:49,222 --> 00:39:51,433
Got arsenic, strontium, yttrium.
755
00:39:51,516 --> 00:39:53,018
It's a rare earth element,
756
00:39:53,059 --> 00:39:56,813
zirconium, niobium, molybdenum.
757
00:39:57,814 --> 00:39:59,274
That molybdenum's kinda high.
758
00:40:00,275 --> 00:40:01,234
That's the highest I've seen it in one
759
00:40:01,317 --> 00:40:03,862
of these objects, actually, 405 ppm.
760
00:40:05,822 --> 00:40:09,868
And we have some palladium,
761
00:40:09,951 --> 00:40:12,120
which is also indicative of meteoric iron.
762
00:40:12,203 --> 00:40:15,457
There's quite a few precious metals like palladium,
763
00:40:15,498 --> 00:40:20,378
platinum, rhodium, and meteoric iron.
764
00:40:20,420 --> 00:40:26,551
Lanthanum, that's also rare,
barium, hafnium, tantalum,
765
00:40:26,634 --> 00:40:31,598
tungsten, rhenium, (pensive music)
766
00:40:31,681 --> 00:40:34,017
thallium, lead, and there's more.
767
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:35,101
- As you look at this, Steve,
768
00:40:35,185 --> 00:40:36,978
does it look like it's a cake mix
769
00:40:37,062 --> 00:40:39,272
of they could have used this chemistry
770
00:40:39,356 --> 00:40:40,732
to build something here on the planet?
771
00:40:40,815 --> 00:40:42,692
I mean, is that could be a piece
772
00:40:42,776 --> 00:40:46,321
of steel fragment from something from my past?
773
00:40:46,404 --> 00:40:48,490
- Yeah, it looked like it would be very strong
774
00:40:48,573 --> 00:40:51,993
with iron mixed with all these different elements.
775
00:40:52,077 --> 00:40:56,915
One, two, three, we had 53 elements in object number 15.
776
00:40:56,998 --> 00:40:57,832
So (speaking faintly).
777
00:40:58,917 --> 00:41:01,795
- Seems kinda complex just to be a manmade thing.
778
00:41:01,878 --> 00:41:03,838
I mean, do chemists actually
put this stuff together
779
00:41:03,922 --> 00:41:06,091
to make steel objects here?
780
00:41:06,174 --> 00:41:08,134
- Yeah, this is a lot of elements.
781
00:41:08,218 --> 00:41:10,136
12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17.
782
00:41:13,765 --> 00:41:15,433
So we have a total of 36 elements here.
783
00:41:15,517 --> 00:41:19,145
So that is quite complex.
(pensive music)
784
00:41:19,229 --> 00:41:21,064
Most industrial alloys don't have
785
00:41:21,147 --> 00:41:23,274
nearly that many elements in them.
786
00:41:24,526 --> 00:41:25,652
- Hmm.
787
00:41:25,735 --> 00:41:28,697
- And so I'd say
788
00:41:30,198 --> 00:41:34,160
this was an iron alloy
789
00:41:34,244 --> 00:41:36,955
with a significant amount of meteoric iron in it,
790
00:41:39,874 --> 00:41:43,712
based on this perhaps 25% meteoric iron
791
00:41:43,795 --> 00:41:47,632
and then with that same
biological hard-part type coating
792
00:41:47,716 --> 00:41:48,967
on the outside.
793
00:41:49,050 --> 00:41:51,803
- When you say meteorite, is it like carbon,
794
00:41:51,886 --> 00:41:54,472
like our whole universe is created with,
795
00:41:54,556 --> 00:41:58,226
or I mean is that a common element, meteorite?
796
00:41:58,309 --> 00:42:01,271
- Meteoric iron, like they were the cores
797
00:42:01,354 --> 00:42:02,814
of planets that exploded.
798
00:42:02,897 --> 00:42:05,316
(pensive music)
799
00:42:05,358 --> 00:42:06,568
- Thing that I'm still trying to figure out,
800
00:42:06,651 --> 00:42:10,071
you're the scientist, but what that could have,
801
00:42:10,155 --> 00:42:12,449
what made that up that could
have been in my everyday life
802
00:42:12,532 --> 00:42:13,908
instead of the implant.
803
00:42:13,992 --> 00:42:17,287
I mean, it could have been a piece of a nail
804
00:42:17,370 --> 00:42:21,207
or just a ordinary rock embedded
in my shin from the past.
805
00:42:21,291 --> 00:42:22,792
- Well, one thing that would be good
806
00:42:22,876 --> 00:42:26,629
to do when we get more funding is
807
00:42:26,713 --> 00:42:28,923
to just take a regular nail
808
00:42:29,007 --> 00:42:31,634
and analyze it at the same lab and see what comes up.
809
00:42:31,718 --> 00:42:34,137
But I can almost guarantee
you there there'll only be
810
00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:37,307
about four or five elements in it, and-
811
00:42:37,390 --> 00:42:38,141
- I see.
- It will not have
812
00:42:38,224 --> 00:42:39,434
a complex structure like this.
813
00:42:39,517 --> 00:42:41,186
So I don't think there's any way
814
00:42:41,269 --> 00:42:42,270
you could have gotten that
815
00:42:42,354 --> 00:42:44,314
from your ordinary life.
- An accident-
816
00:42:44,397 --> 00:42:45,940
- No.
- From childhood forward.
817
00:42:46,024 --> 00:42:46,900
- Very unlikely.
818
00:42:46,983 --> 00:42:49,069
- Well, there wasn't ever an entry wound,
819
00:42:49,152 --> 00:42:52,864
and I have no recollection of an injury in that area.
820
00:42:52,947 --> 00:42:53,698
- [Steve] So you have no idea
821
00:42:53,782 --> 00:42:55,033
how long the object had been there?
822
00:42:55,116 --> 00:42:56,826
- Could have been from childhood,
823
00:42:56,868 --> 00:42:59,496
but it started giving me problems in 2005.
824
00:42:59,579 --> 00:43:00,872
Now you mention it,
825
00:43:00,955 --> 00:43:01,915
I'm trying to remember what the pain was
826
00:43:01,998 --> 00:43:03,667
'cause it felt like a railroad spike
827
00:43:03,708 --> 00:43:05,710
being driven through my leg.
828
00:43:05,794 --> 00:43:07,712
But I'm trying to remember the point of entry.
829
00:43:07,796 --> 00:43:10,715
It could have been in the line of the pain.
830
00:43:10,799 --> 00:43:12,884
Been riding my motorcycles on mountain roads,
831
00:43:12,967 --> 00:43:14,928
and it would start kicking in the pain,
832
00:43:15,011 --> 00:43:18,181
and it took all my strength to stop the motorcycle
833
00:43:18,264 --> 00:43:20,433
and lay on the ground without crashing
834
00:43:20,517 --> 00:43:21,685
with the pain.
- Wow.
835
00:43:21,768 --> 00:43:24,020
- So, and then it just stopped.
836
00:43:24,104 --> 00:43:25,855
- Do you think the pain was
837
00:43:25,939 --> 00:43:28,149
to punish you somehow or to control you or?
838
00:43:29,067 --> 00:43:30,735
- Well, they all know I've been a bad boy,
839
00:43:30,819 --> 00:43:33,988
but I have no explanation.
(pensive music)
840
00:43:34,072 --> 00:43:35,824
- [Steve] The electron micrographs of the object
841
00:43:35,907 --> 00:43:39,119
look very similar to the corresponding pictures
842
00:43:39,202 --> 00:43:41,204
of object number 15, which that turned out to be
843
00:43:41,287 --> 00:43:43,623
a sophisticated nanotechnological device.
844
00:43:43,707 --> 00:43:45,917
- [Jeremy] You're saying, Steve, that this is
845
00:43:46,001 --> 00:43:50,088
a highly complex alloy, 36 different elements,
846
00:43:50,171 --> 00:43:53,174
some of which are rare earth elements.
847
00:43:53,258 --> 00:43:56,803
- Yeah, it's got, for example, 410 ppm of yttrium.
848
00:43:56,886 --> 00:43:59,848
I mean, I know for a fact that no nail
849
00:43:59,931 --> 00:44:01,558
on the market's gonna have that.
850
00:44:03,268 --> 00:44:04,686
- [Jeremy] There's all these different metals in it.
851
00:44:04,769 --> 00:44:05,895
They're highly complex.
852
00:44:05,979 --> 00:44:08,273
They were fabricated.
They were put together.
853
00:44:08,356 --> 00:44:10,900
It would be highly expensive
and probably difficult
854
00:44:10,984 --> 00:44:12,861
to make a single object out of all of these elements.
855
00:44:12,944 --> 00:44:15,113
- Yeah.
- Some of which are very rare,
856
00:44:15,196 --> 00:44:17,574
some of which are even toxic in small amounts.
857
00:44:17,657 --> 00:44:22,120
I mean, this is a very strange
object in patient 17's leg
858
00:44:22,203 --> 00:44:23,371
that was taken out.
859
00:44:23,455 --> 00:44:24,581
- Yeah, no doubt, man.
860
00:44:27,083 --> 00:44:29,586
- [Jeremy] You've talked to us
about the elemental analysis,
861
00:44:29,669 --> 00:44:33,548
but we also specifically got isotopic analysis.
862
00:44:34,466 --> 00:44:36,301
- Every element on earth
863
00:44:36,384 --> 00:44:38,887
or most elements on earth
have more than one isotope,
864
00:44:38,970 --> 00:44:43,808
isotopes being forms of the element
865
00:44:43,892 --> 00:44:45,477
with different atomic weights
866
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,938
and having different numbers
of neutrons in the nucleus.
867
00:44:49,022 --> 00:44:50,648
The number of protons in the nucleus defines
868
00:44:50,732 --> 00:44:51,691
what the element is.
869
00:44:51,775 --> 00:44:54,069
And the number of neutrons in the nucleus defines
870
00:44:54,110 --> 00:44:55,862
its exact atomic weight.
871
00:44:57,322 --> 00:45:01,409
So in elements with more than one of these isotopes,
872
00:45:01,493 --> 00:45:04,287
there's a certain pattern, certain ratio
873
00:45:04,371 --> 00:45:06,289
of the isotopes one to another.
874
00:45:06,373 --> 00:45:10,418
And that ratio is characteristic for elements
875
00:45:10,502 --> 00:45:12,712
that originate on earth, and-
876
00:45:14,005 --> 00:45:15,632
- [Jeremy] What do you see in the isotopes?
877
00:45:15,715 --> 00:45:17,884
Are they from here, or are they not?
878
00:45:18,802 --> 00:45:22,013
- They were similar to earthly isotopic ratios
879
00:45:22,097 --> 00:45:25,725
but off by enough where I would tend
880
00:45:25,809 --> 00:45:27,560
to conclude it was from off planet.
881
00:45:29,479 --> 00:45:31,898
- [Jeremy] So you're saying that within these results
882
00:45:31,940 --> 00:45:34,484
for the isotopic percentages,
883
00:45:34,567 --> 00:45:38,822
usually one to 2% could be a miscalculation.
884
00:45:38,905 --> 00:45:41,074
How many percentages are we off by?
885
00:45:41,157 --> 00:45:42,617
- Zinc-64,
886
00:45:44,369 --> 00:45:46,871
we're off by about 2.5%.
(pensive music)
887
00:45:46,955 --> 00:45:48,873
So that definitely puts it
888
00:45:48,957 --> 00:45:51,292
into the for sure off-planet range.
889
00:45:51,376 --> 00:45:53,044
And the standard deviation of that measurement
890
00:45:53,128 --> 00:45:56,423
was only 1.25%, so there's
not much variation there
891
00:45:56,506 --> 00:45:58,758
or much room for error there.
892
00:45:58,842 --> 00:46:02,178
- [Jeremy] So zinc-64 and zinc-66
893
00:46:02,262 --> 00:46:04,973
have isotopic ratios that are
894
00:46:05,056 --> 00:46:07,892
definitively not from earth?
895
00:46:07,976 --> 00:46:10,186
- Based on these results, I would say yes.
896
00:46:10,270 --> 00:46:11,354
- [Jeremy] It's a federal crime to change,
897
00:46:11,438 --> 00:46:12,689
I mean, it's not like the labs are messing
898
00:46:12,772 --> 00:46:13,815
around with the data.
899
00:46:13,898 --> 00:46:14,858
- Yeah.
- And they're looking
900
00:46:14,941 --> 00:46:18,194
at something that is not from here.
901
00:46:18,278 --> 00:46:19,320
- Yeah, and I wanna emphasize
902
00:46:19,404 --> 00:46:21,239
this is not backdoor research or anything.
903
00:46:21,322 --> 00:46:22,574
As you say, it's a federal crime
904
00:46:22,657 --> 00:46:26,119
to alter these results since we did pay it for them.
905
00:46:26,202 --> 00:46:26,995
- They're actually truly mystery metals?
906
00:46:27,078 --> 00:46:29,372
They're not forged on this planet?
907
00:46:29,456 --> 00:46:30,665
- Not-
- How do they know what it is?
908
00:46:30,749 --> 00:46:32,125
- You could forge it on this planet,
909
00:46:32,208 --> 00:46:35,253
but the isotopic results are pretty indicative
910
00:46:35,337 --> 00:46:37,088
of it being from off planet, so.
911
00:46:37,130 --> 00:46:38,256
- Well, our planet's a meteorite.
912
00:46:38,340 --> 00:46:40,842
It's a chunk off of something, and then a meteorite,
913
00:46:40,925 --> 00:46:42,510
we think of as this little ball thing floating
914
00:46:42,594 --> 00:46:43,511
through space, but we're-
- To get
915
00:46:43,595 --> 00:46:44,346
that type of material-
- actually a meteorite.
916
00:46:44,429 --> 00:46:46,681
- from the earth, you'd have to drill into the core.
917
00:46:47,891 --> 00:46:50,226
- [Patient 17] Or it got evacuated from the core
918
00:46:50,310 --> 00:46:51,561
through a volcano, right?
919
00:46:51,644 --> 00:46:52,854
It could be laying around.
920
00:46:52,937 --> 00:46:53,855
They might-
- Well, there's parts
921
00:46:53,938 --> 00:46:56,274
of other planetary cores out
there on the asteroid belt
922
00:46:56,358 --> 00:46:58,860
that they're flying around, so.
923
00:46:58,943 --> 00:47:00,070
Well, in my opinion,
924
00:47:02,697 --> 00:47:04,491
it's a nanotechnological device
925
00:47:04,574 --> 00:47:07,327
that was probably hooked into your nervous system.
926
00:47:07,410 --> 00:47:09,329
That's what caused the pain,
927
00:47:10,538 --> 00:47:12,749
made of partly meteoric iron
928
00:47:14,250 --> 00:47:18,588
and having a lot of odd elements in it.
929
00:47:21,466 --> 00:47:22,926
- Guess I'm still a little in denial
930
00:47:23,009 --> 00:47:25,512
'cause I wasn't expecting
finding material in this object
931
00:47:25,595 --> 00:47:28,098
that from out of this world, not at all.
932
00:47:28,181 --> 00:47:30,809
- Have you seen my report on object number 15?
933
00:47:30,892 --> 00:47:33,186
It's similar to your device.
934
00:47:33,228 --> 00:47:34,813
And I'll stick my neck out a little bit saying
935
00:47:34,896 --> 00:47:37,232
that this is probably a device.
936
00:47:37,315 --> 00:47:39,150
- [Jeremy] Is it the smoking gun
937
00:47:39,234 --> 00:47:41,236
as it says in the magazine article?
938
00:47:42,404 --> 00:47:43,279
- I would say so.
939
00:47:43,363 --> 00:47:46,032
I mean, we would need 100 tests like this
940
00:47:46,116 --> 00:47:47,951
to convince the entire scientific community.
941
00:47:48,034 --> 00:47:53,331
But based on the fact that
we're just trying to do this
942
00:47:53,415 --> 00:47:56,793
on what to them would be a shoestring budget,
943
00:47:56,876 --> 00:47:58,503
I think we've got some really good results here.
944
00:47:58,586 --> 00:48:01,798
And I think that this is a strong indication
945
00:48:01,881 --> 00:48:03,842
that the object is from off planet
946
00:48:03,925 --> 00:48:07,137
and a sophisticated device, and we need to, you know,
947
00:48:07,220 --> 00:48:09,180
follow up with some more research.
948
00:48:09,264 --> 00:48:10,515
- I don't have any answers.
949
00:48:10,598 --> 00:48:14,644
I'm still a doubting Thomas on
what this could possibly be,
950
00:48:14,728 --> 00:48:16,771
but I'm not jumping for joy
951
00:48:16,855 --> 00:48:18,773
'cause it just affirms that this whole story
952
00:48:18,857 --> 00:48:19,983
and this adventure is true,
953
00:48:20,066 --> 00:48:22,861
and it's just been a nightmare since childhood.
954
00:48:22,944 --> 00:48:24,946
- [Jeremy] You don't want it to be true.
955
00:48:25,947 --> 00:48:28,992
- Not really, yeah, it's a pain.
956
00:48:29,075 --> 00:48:31,036
- Mm-hmm.
- And you can't talk to anybody about it-
957
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:32,203
- No.
- Except for other UFO people.
958
00:48:32,287 --> 00:48:35,165
And it does, you just can't even bring it up anywhere.
959
00:48:35,248 --> 00:48:37,375
The media has a taboo. It's like politics.
960
00:48:37,459 --> 00:48:39,544
Once people have their mind set a certain way,
961
00:48:39,627 --> 00:48:41,171
there's no convincing them.
962
00:48:41,254 --> 00:48:43,506
I mean-
- How does this make you feel?
963
00:48:43,590 --> 00:48:46,051
Are you surprised by these results?
964
00:48:46,134 --> 00:48:47,510
- Yes, 'cause I honestly thought
965
00:48:47,594 --> 00:48:49,137
it was something from the past.
966
00:48:49,220 --> 00:48:50,972
We don't have control over any of this.
967
00:48:51,056 --> 00:48:53,683
We're just being herded like cattle and tagged,
968
00:48:53,767 --> 00:48:55,852
and who knows what they're doing.
969
00:48:56,811 --> 00:48:58,563
- It does require a period of adjustment,
970
00:48:58,646 --> 00:49:01,191
and it's a door that you can never close again.
971
00:49:02,776 --> 00:49:05,445
(pensive music)
972
00:49:07,572 --> 00:49:10,492
- [Jeremy] What happens to the
ego when it confronts a truth
973
00:49:10,575 --> 00:49:14,204
that is poised to transform our belief systems,
974
00:49:14,287 --> 00:49:17,540
and is truth itself a matter of interpretation?
975
00:49:20,293 --> 00:49:23,755
(paper rustling)
976
00:49:23,838 --> 00:49:25,215
- All right, you take care, Steve.
977
00:49:25,298 --> 00:49:26,675
- Yeah, you too.
- Good seeing ya, man.
978
00:49:26,758 --> 00:49:28,802
- [Steve] Good to see you, too.
979
00:49:28,885 --> 00:49:31,054
- [Patient 17] We're members of an exclusive club.
980
00:49:31,137 --> 00:49:33,848
(door clattering)
(pensive music)
981
00:49:33,932 --> 00:49:35,558
- [Jeremy] You were patient number 15?
982
00:49:35,642 --> 00:49:37,102
- Yeah.
- You never told me that.
983
00:49:37,185 --> 00:49:38,937
- I didn't?
- No.
984
00:49:39,020 --> 00:49:41,022
- Dr. Leir didn't want me to
tell very many people that.
985
00:49:41,106 --> 00:49:44,109
I just was supposed to be the
scientist in his organization.
986
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:46,528
But I went through the whole process.
987
00:49:46,611 --> 00:49:48,154
I lost my marriage over this whole thing.
988
00:49:48,238 --> 00:49:49,906
Or at least that was a major factor.
989
00:49:49,989 --> 00:49:50,907
Yeah, it's been a big deal.
990
00:49:50,990 --> 00:49:53,702
I mean, I never would even
entertain a lot of this stuff
991
00:49:53,785 --> 00:49:55,120
if I didn't have physical evidence
992
00:49:55,203 --> 00:49:57,497
that there's something going on.
993
00:49:57,580 --> 00:50:00,000
I've chosen to embrace it in part to get
994
00:50:00,083 --> 00:50:02,127
better treatment on the abductions,
995
00:50:02,210 --> 00:50:05,046
and there's no sense fighting 'em.
996
00:50:05,088 --> 00:50:07,382
I mean, they're far too powerful for that.
997
00:50:07,465 --> 00:50:09,426
All they have to do is turn the mental control up
998
00:50:09,467 --> 00:50:11,261
to level seven from level three,
999
00:50:11,344 --> 00:50:13,555
and they can get you to do whatever they want.
1000
00:50:14,597 --> 00:50:18,643
(pensive organ music)
1001
00:50:18,727 --> 00:50:20,311
(heartbeat thudding)
1002
00:50:20,395 --> 00:50:24,190
(voice speaking indistinctly)
1003
00:50:28,820 --> 00:50:32,282
- [Jeremy] Like Schrodinger's
famous thought experiment,
1004
00:50:32,365 --> 00:50:36,119
I simply wanted to know if the cat in the box
1005
00:50:36,202 --> 00:50:38,288
was dead or alive.
1006
00:50:38,371 --> 00:50:40,707
Is this object anomalous or not?
1007
00:50:41,666 --> 00:50:44,627
The facts of the analysis do not lie,
1008
00:50:44,711 --> 00:50:48,506
but the interpretation seems
to be deeply subjective.
1009
00:50:49,883 --> 00:50:54,637
The hard scientific line presupposed by the data
1010
00:50:54,679 --> 00:50:57,390
is easily bent by the worldview developed
1011
00:50:57,474 --> 00:50:59,642
by those who seek answers.
1012
00:51:01,644 --> 00:51:04,356
Where was the doc when you needed him?
1013
00:51:04,439 --> 00:51:06,566
Where was the man who started it all?
1014
00:51:07,567 --> 00:51:09,986
Was he playing his symphony in the sky,
1015
00:51:10,070 --> 00:51:12,989
having found peace from
his questions in the realms
1016
00:51:13,073 --> 00:51:16,576
of the knowing while the mysteries
1017
00:51:16,659 --> 00:51:18,703
that keep us mortals in a state
1018
00:51:18,787 --> 00:51:21,956
of insomniatic disturbance roll on?
1019
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:27,045
(heartbeat thudding)
(pensive music continues)
1020
00:51:42,769 --> 00:51:45,146
- [Patient 17] I just wanna
thank him for his understanding
1021
00:51:45,230 --> 00:51:49,818
and his help and acceptance of this whole thing.
1022
00:51:49,901 --> 00:51:53,822
And you know, it's too bad he had to pass
1023
00:51:53,905 --> 00:51:58,535
before we knew 100%
1024
00:51:58,618 --> 00:52:00,537
what the item was in my leg.
1025
00:52:01,663 --> 00:52:03,873
It's a big thank you actually, thanks.
1026
00:52:20,223 --> 00:52:22,892
(pensive music)
1027
00:52:27,939 --> 00:52:30,025
- [Jeremy] The next move was to get interpretation
1028
00:52:30,108 --> 00:52:33,653
of the data from a scientist known as Nano Man,
1029
00:52:34,654 --> 00:52:38,575
a military-funded nanophysicist who might be able
1030
00:52:38,658 --> 00:52:43,538
to shine light on our
seemingly anomalous analysis.
1031
00:52:43,580 --> 00:52:48,293
Maybe he could tell me if there
was anything to this data.
1032
00:52:49,669 --> 00:52:54,632
(footsteps plodding)
(pensive music continues)
1033
00:52:54,799 --> 00:52:55,759
(chair clattering)
1034
00:52:55,842 --> 00:52:58,595
(paper rustling)
1035
00:53:02,849 --> 00:53:05,685
(book clattering)
1036
00:53:07,103 --> 00:53:12,108
(brooding music)
(insects chirping)
1037
00:53:20,492 --> 00:53:23,244
(paper rustling)
1038
00:53:33,380 --> 00:53:37,300
(Christopher speaking faintly)
1039
00:53:39,469 --> 00:53:42,222
(paper rustling)
1040
00:53:44,724 --> 00:53:46,017
- Huh.
1041
00:53:46,101 --> 00:53:51,106
(paper rustling)
(Christopher sighs)
1042
00:53:51,648 --> 00:53:53,650
- [Jeremy] This came out of a man's leg.
1043
00:53:53,733 --> 00:53:56,069
There've been a lot of kind of assumptions about it,
1044
00:53:56,152 --> 00:53:58,071
but now we have the hard physical evidence,
1045
00:53:58,154 --> 00:53:59,698
the elemental analysis.
1046
00:53:59,781 --> 00:54:02,492
I just wanted you as a nano physicist
1047
00:54:02,575 --> 00:54:04,244
to basically look at it and-
1048
00:54:04,327 --> 00:54:06,871
- Yes.
- Is this a Tonka truck?
1049
00:54:06,955 --> 00:54:08,456
- No. (laughs)
1050
00:54:08,540 --> 00:54:11,251
This sample is not a Tonka truck. (laughs)
1051
00:54:11,334 --> 00:54:15,005
It is not a rock or a pebble from the gravel.
1052
00:54:15,088 --> 00:54:19,175
Maybe he picked up a piece of something in his leg,
1053
00:54:20,927 --> 00:54:23,096
and it's been bothering him.
1054
00:54:23,179 --> 00:54:25,223
He had a strange experience
1055
00:54:25,306 --> 00:54:28,226
and decided that he had an implant.
1056
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:32,731
No, this is not a stone, a pebble, or a Tonka truck.
1057
00:54:32,814 --> 00:54:36,151
There is nothing I can imagine
1058
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:42,198
that could explain why this man would have
1059
00:54:43,408 --> 00:54:46,244
a witch's brew of elements
1060
00:54:46,327 --> 00:54:48,997
within a sample embedded in his leg.
1061
00:54:49,039 --> 00:54:49,873
Arsenic.
1062
00:54:51,833 --> 00:54:54,627
Quite a lot of arsenic, actually, in the sample.
1063
00:54:57,047 --> 00:54:59,466
Yttrium, yttrium is a material used
1064
00:54:59,549 --> 00:55:01,801
in making superconductors.
1065
00:55:01,885 --> 00:55:05,096
We have a huge amount of yttrium inside this,
1066
00:55:05,180 --> 00:55:07,891
and yttrium is extremely toxic.
1067
00:55:07,974 --> 00:55:11,102
Machining superconductors, you
have to wear masks and gloves
1068
00:55:11,186 --> 00:55:13,938
because the powder is deadly.
1069
00:55:17,484 --> 00:55:20,904
There are just really
1070
00:55:20,987 --> 00:55:23,698
an astounding number of elements here
1071
00:55:23,782 --> 00:55:25,784
that are quite poisonous.
1072
00:55:25,867 --> 00:55:28,620
- [Jeremy] Are these elements unique in any way,
1073
00:55:28,703 --> 00:55:30,372
just the elements themselves?
1074
00:55:30,455 --> 00:55:33,667
- Oh, absolutely, this is the most astounding array
1075
00:55:33,708 --> 00:55:37,504
of elements in a single sample I've ever seen.
1076
00:55:37,587 --> 00:55:40,924
I have no idea how you would make such a thing.
1077
00:55:41,007 --> 00:55:43,259
- [Jeremy] Even in your world of nanotechnology
1078
00:55:43,343 --> 00:55:45,970
where you do fabricate pretty exotic,
1079
00:55:46,054 --> 00:55:49,891
minute-scale machines and that kind of thing,
1080
00:55:49,974 --> 00:55:52,018
this is still interesting to you?
1081
00:55:52,102 --> 00:55:54,688
- This object has an elemental analysis
1082
00:55:54,771 --> 00:55:57,148
of a complexity I've never seen before.
1083
00:55:58,316 --> 00:56:02,320
- [Jeremy] Wow.
(crickets chirping)
1084
00:56:02,404 --> 00:56:05,198
This thing is fabricated is what you're saying?
1085
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:07,367
- Oh, yes, this thing is fabricated.
1086
00:56:07,450 --> 00:56:11,162
Our most complex alloys, maybe you will have
1087
00:56:11,246 --> 00:56:14,124
five different metals
1088
00:56:15,291 --> 00:56:17,877
or oxides present in an alloy.
1089
00:56:17,961 --> 00:56:21,923
This sample has an astounding array
1090
00:56:22,007 --> 00:56:23,425
of metals present.
(pensive music)
1091
00:56:23,508 --> 00:56:25,218
- [Jeremy] We're talking about something
1092
00:56:25,301 --> 00:56:28,680
that is highly advanced and
fabricated by an intelligence.
1093
00:56:28,763 --> 00:56:30,515
Is that correct?
- Yes.
1094
00:56:30,598 --> 00:56:32,559
- Straight up?
- Yes, straight up.
1095
00:56:32,642 --> 00:56:35,812
This material had to be fabricated by something,
1096
00:56:35,895 --> 00:56:38,982
by somebody, by an intelligence
1097
00:56:39,065 --> 00:56:42,652
that was very sophisticated.
1098
00:56:42,736 --> 00:56:46,865
Somebody went to a great deal of effort
1099
00:56:46,948 --> 00:56:49,492
to create this object.
1100
00:56:49,576 --> 00:56:52,662
- [Jeremy] You know, I was told that there are four types
1101
00:56:52,746 --> 00:56:56,207
of isotopes that are found on earth in zinc.
1102
00:56:56,291 --> 00:56:57,834
Those are the four that they analyzed?
1103
00:56:57,917 --> 00:57:00,378
- There's a fifth one in very small quantity,
1104
00:57:00,462 --> 00:57:03,548
but they basically looked at the big four.
1105
00:57:03,590 --> 00:57:06,301
- [Jeremy] Okay, so they're created here by,
1106
00:57:06,384 --> 00:57:08,553
within our star system, the supernova that created
1107
00:57:08,636 --> 00:57:11,097
our star systems and our neighboring star systems.
1108
00:57:11,181 --> 00:57:13,058
- Yes.
- And they have certain ratios
1109
00:57:13,099 --> 00:57:16,561
that are typically found
as far as the concentration
1110
00:57:16,644 --> 00:57:18,730
of these different types of zinc,
1111
00:57:18,813 --> 00:57:23,318
so zinc-64, zinc-66, this kind of thing?
1112
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:24,486
- Yes.
1113
00:57:24,569 --> 00:57:26,905
- [Jeremy] What ratios are you seeing there?
1114
00:57:26,988 --> 00:57:29,199
Are they out of proportion
with terrestrial ratios,
1115
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,742
and what does that tell us?
1116
00:57:30,825 --> 00:57:34,704
- So in any sample, you expect some deviation
1117
00:57:34,788 --> 00:57:38,917
from the normal isotopic ratio
of any of these elements.
1118
00:57:38,958 --> 00:57:41,252
But what we're seeing here is
1119
00:57:41,336 --> 00:57:45,965
a dramatic shift in the isotopic ratios
1120
00:57:46,049 --> 00:57:50,929
of the sample versus the average isotopic ratio
1121
00:57:51,012 --> 00:57:53,515
of zinc found on earth.
(pensive music)
1122
00:57:53,598 --> 00:57:55,684
This zinc is from some other part
1123
00:57:55,767 --> 00:57:57,769
of the galaxy at a minimum.
1124
00:57:59,354 --> 00:58:01,439
I'm telling you it's not from here.
1125
00:58:03,191 --> 00:58:05,944
This sample did not come from our solar system,
1126
00:58:06,027 --> 00:58:07,612
much less the earth.
1127
00:58:07,696 --> 00:58:10,407
These isotopes provided us the evidence.
1128
00:58:12,409 --> 00:58:14,911
These are not naturally occurring on earth.
1129
00:58:16,121 --> 00:58:19,082
- [Jeremy] My mind is still kind of frozen with shock.
1130
00:58:19,165 --> 00:58:21,376
I did not expect there to be proof.
1131
00:58:23,128 --> 00:58:24,754
You're just nodding your head, but I'm freaked out.
1132
00:58:24,838 --> 00:58:28,258
- We have material that has
been pulled out of a man's leg
1133
00:58:28,341 --> 00:58:30,301
that should not exist.
1134
00:58:30,385 --> 00:58:33,388
This sample could not have been made on earth
1135
00:58:33,471 --> 00:58:35,557
because the isotopic ratios
1136
00:58:36,558 --> 00:58:38,893
do not support the idea
1137
00:58:38,977 --> 00:58:42,272
or the theory that this sample was made here.
1138
00:58:42,355 --> 00:58:44,149
- [Jeremy] I mean, so you got the smoking gun,
1139
00:58:44,232 --> 00:58:47,402
but it's in the form of an isotopic analysis.
1140
00:58:47,485 --> 00:58:50,613
How do you make someone
understand the implication
1141
00:58:50,697 --> 00:58:52,574
of those numbers?
1142
00:58:52,657 --> 00:58:55,326
(siren wailing)
1143
00:58:57,746 --> 00:59:00,498
(paper rustling)
1144
00:59:01,708 --> 00:59:02,876
Or maybe you don't.
1145
00:59:02,959 --> 00:59:04,586
(pensive music)
1146
00:59:04,669 --> 00:59:08,882
- The $64 trillion question remains.
1147
00:59:08,965 --> 00:59:11,801
How did these ratios get here?
1148
00:59:11,885 --> 00:59:16,389
This is not a ratio of zinc that you would find
1149
00:59:16,473 --> 00:59:18,183
that would be naturally occurring.
1150
00:59:19,225 --> 00:59:22,228
This has nothing to do with
naturally occurring zinc
1151
00:59:22,312 --> 00:59:27,275
in our solar system or in the
surrounding solar systems.
1152
00:59:27,359 --> 00:59:30,653
Within our neighborhood of the galaxy,
1153
00:59:30,737 --> 00:59:32,113
this did not come from.
1154
00:59:33,281 --> 00:59:36,368
These elements were created in a supernova
1155
00:59:36,451 --> 00:59:41,164
that was manufacturing these
elements in different ratios.
1156
00:59:42,916 --> 00:59:45,543
- [Jeremy] Do you think, from what you've seen,
1157
00:59:45,627 --> 00:59:49,589
these isotopes show us non-terrestriality?
1158
00:59:49,673 --> 00:59:50,548
- Yes, I do.
1159
00:59:55,220 --> 01:00:00,850
- [Jeremy] Would you consider this scientific report
1160
01:00:00,934 --> 01:00:02,852
of the isotopes a smoking gun?
1161
01:00:02,936 --> 01:00:03,770
- Yes, I would.
1162
01:00:05,939 --> 01:00:09,109
I don't believe any human made this sample.
1163
01:00:09,192 --> 01:00:12,362
(pensive music)
1164
01:00:12,445 --> 01:00:14,948
- [Jeremy] I'm just trying to figure out my next step.
1165
01:00:17,575 --> 01:00:18,660
I mean, I guess we're at a point
1166
01:00:18,743 --> 01:00:21,246
where we can say big questions.
1167
01:00:21,329 --> 01:00:23,915
- Yes, huge questions.
1168
01:00:23,998 --> 01:00:26,001
(birds chirping)
1169
01:00:26,084 --> 01:00:30,463
(pensive music)
(birds continue chirping)
1170
01:00:30,547 --> 01:00:33,842
This is the most significant pieces
1171
01:00:33,925 --> 01:00:38,888
of actual hardcore data we have ever seen
1172
01:00:39,014 --> 01:00:42,934
in the field of UFO and extraterrestrial.
1173
01:00:43,018 --> 01:00:44,477
That is white whirl.
1174
01:00:44,561 --> 01:00:48,815
This is the single most compelling piece of data
1175
01:00:48,898 --> 01:00:50,316
that's ever been generated.
1176
01:00:51,151 --> 01:00:53,111
So that's a mystery.
1177
01:00:53,194 --> 01:00:58,199
But the implication of this
is stretching my imagination.
1178
01:00:58,408 --> 01:01:01,911
(pensive music continues)
1179
01:01:05,623 --> 01:01:07,250
- [Jeremy] This is just about the point
1180
01:01:07,334 --> 01:01:09,377
where I feel utterly lost.
1181
01:01:11,212 --> 01:01:13,798
I've been investigating Dr. Leir's claims
1182
01:01:13,882 --> 01:01:15,508
for almost a year now.
1183
01:01:15,592 --> 01:01:18,845
It's been one step forward, two steps back.
1184
01:01:20,972 --> 01:01:22,474
So here are the facts.
1185
01:01:23,391 --> 01:01:28,146
Patient 17 had a strange object taken out of his leg.
1186
01:01:28,188 --> 01:01:32,442
It was analyzed and
interpreted by Dr. Leir's team.
1187
01:01:32,525 --> 01:01:35,070
They believe the object is proof
1188
01:01:35,153 --> 01:01:38,948
of advanced non-human
intelligence engaging humanity.
1189
01:01:41,659 --> 01:01:45,914
Patient 17 and I are less convinced.
1190
01:01:47,582 --> 01:01:51,961
I called the lab, and they
stood behind their results.
1191
01:01:52,045 --> 01:01:55,590
When I asked them if the
isotopic results were consistent
1192
01:01:55,674 --> 01:01:57,759
with non-terrestriality,
1193
01:01:57,842 --> 01:02:02,055
they quickly admitted that errors can occur.
1194
01:02:02,138 --> 01:02:05,183
I presented the data to the
head meteorite specialist
1195
01:02:05,266 --> 01:02:08,520
at UCLA, and he basically told me
1196
01:02:08,603 --> 01:02:10,146
that we would need more tests
1197
01:02:10,188 --> 01:02:12,315
to determine the object's origin.
1198
01:02:13,525 --> 01:02:17,278
Innumerable scientists
from material specialists
1199
01:02:17,362 --> 01:02:21,074
to nanotechnicians have interpreted the data,
1200
01:02:21,157 --> 01:02:22,992
and it's a coin toss.
1201
01:02:23,076 --> 01:02:25,954
Some find the composition anomalous.
1202
01:02:26,037 --> 01:02:28,415
Others say it's what you might expect
1203
01:02:28,498 --> 01:02:30,834
to find in a common alloy.
1204
01:02:31,918 --> 01:02:34,796
Most simply say, "We need more tests."
1205
01:02:35,714 --> 01:02:40,343
With Dr. Leir gone, our only
hope to further this case is
1206
01:02:40,427 --> 01:02:44,848
to get our hands on the
sample and continue the quest.
1207
01:02:46,516 --> 01:02:48,935
This has proven to be a challenge.
1208
01:02:52,313 --> 01:02:56,484
(paper rustling)
(pensive music continues)
1209
01:02:56,526 --> 01:02:59,279
(chair creaking)
1210
01:03:05,827 --> 01:03:08,413
(pen clanking)
1211
01:03:12,834 --> 01:03:15,128
(phone ringing)
1212
01:03:15,211 --> 01:03:17,047
(paper rustling)
1213
01:03:17,130 --> 01:03:19,799
(phone ringing)
1214
01:03:20,759 --> 01:03:22,677
- [Voicemail] Please leave
your message after the tone.
1215
01:03:22,761 --> 01:03:25,096
(phone beeps)
1216
01:03:25,180 --> 01:03:26,639
- [Jeremy] Hey, man, it's me.
1217
01:03:27,766 --> 01:03:31,686
I've been trying for months to get ahold of Steve.
1218
01:03:31,728 --> 01:03:33,605
He's changed his phone number.
1219
01:03:33,688 --> 01:03:36,441
He won't answer any of my messages.
1220
01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:40,570
I just don't know if we're gonna be able
1221
01:03:40,653 --> 01:03:42,906
to get the sample back
1222
01:03:42,989 --> 01:03:45,658
or if we're gonna be able to figure out what this is.
1223
01:03:46,868 --> 01:03:48,244
I'm extremely frustrated.
1224
01:03:48,328 --> 01:03:52,082
I mean, I figure the only thing left is
1225
01:03:53,041 --> 01:03:55,043
to go bang on his door.
1226
01:03:56,753 --> 01:04:00,131
You know, we've come this far, man.
1227
01:04:01,299 --> 01:04:03,259
We need to do more tests.
1228
01:04:03,343 --> 01:04:08,348
(tape whirring)
(pensive music)
1229
01:04:12,769 --> 01:04:15,480
It seems that we each have front row seats
1230
01:04:15,563 --> 01:04:19,901
for this cosmic symphony,
an ultra-dimensional theater
1231
01:04:19,984 --> 01:04:22,987
where we are observers and participants.
1232
01:04:26,908 --> 01:04:29,285
We are actors on this multi-galactic
1233
01:04:29,369 --> 01:04:32,789
and incomprehensibly mysterious stage.
1234
01:04:32,872 --> 01:04:36,292
And the price of admission
is simply your own curiosity.
1235
01:04:39,379 --> 01:04:40,130
(organ clanking)
1236
01:04:40,213 --> 01:04:43,299
(heartbeat thudding)
1237
01:04:55,937 --> 01:04:59,941
(energy pulsating and whirring)
1238
01:05:10,744 --> 01:05:13,204
The problem with peeking behind the curtain is
1239
01:05:13,288 --> 01:05:16,207
that you can't unsee and you can't unknow.
1240
01:05:17,125 --> 01:05:19,419
Your curiosity becomes weaponized
1241
01:05:19,461 --> 01:05:22,964
and from that moment forward,
you become a mechanism,
1242
01:05:23,048 --> 01:05:25,342
a beacon radiating with desire
1243
01:05:25,425 --> 01:05:29,220
magnitudes greater than
you ever dreamed possible.
1244
01:05:30,930 --> 01:05:34,434
(pensive music continues)
1245
01:05:38,646 --> 01:05:43,610
("Theme from Close Encounters of the Third Kind")
1246
01:05:49,074 --> 01:05:53,036
(sound waves whistling)
(static hissing)
1247
01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:58,083
("Theme from Close Encounters of the Third Kind")
1248
01:06:02,921 --> 01:06:07,926
(sound waves whistling)
(static hissing)
1249
01:06:08,009 --> 01:06:12,430
(being speaking in foreign language)
1250
01:06:15,767 --> 01:06:18,353
(signal pinging)
(satellite whirring)
1251
01:06:18,436 --> 01:06:21,106
(pensive music)
1252
01:06:38,748 --> 01:06:42,252
(pensive music continues)
1253
01:06:58,601 --> 01:07:02,105
(pensive music continues)
1254
01:07:18,621 --> 01:07:22,208
(pensive music continues)
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