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lwoman| \nirby seconds.
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[man] All right, ready, VIA.
One, you have the audience to pan,
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Two, you have the window to pull.
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(Goturied] My experience
in television started
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when | was representing
United! Artists Television.
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| Was tNelr production vice presicent,
and | was in charge of the shows
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tia were being produced tor our company.
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| sulosequenily, iin television--
| joined the Ed Sullivan company.
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And my joo was
to develop new shows, specials
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in all ditierent facets
of television entertainment,
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Interestingly enough,
| met Paddy Chayettsky
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while | was working ror Ec! Sullivans
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So= As a matter of tact,
we created a fascinating hour satire,
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OUR Ik WAS a Ie too Strong
for television att tat time.
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But we Used to spend days just walling
around the city talking about scripts
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and ideas that he had for things.
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And lhe was just a fascinating guy
to be with
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and obviously lorilliant and talented.
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‘SO When Wwe got together,
ultimately, to make films,
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nt WAS a Great exchement on My part!
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| can tum that show
into the biggest smash on television.
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What do you mean you want that show?
ts a news show.
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its HOt your depariment,
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Now, who the hell is running this network?
You or some conglomerate called CCA?
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[Gottiried|] What happened was,
there was a big story
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aloout a major worldwide corporation
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the American Broadcasting Company.
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They had started negotiations
to buy the whole broadcasting company.
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Ane wnat immeciately came to Paddy's mine
was that, like any other corporation,
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trey would look tor where
they could make the most profits.
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Ihe division producing the lowest rate
of retum has been the news division.
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(Gottirical] Prior to this happening,
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tie News ana the news area
nad always been considered
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an area Where the Networks UNCEerstood
they would lose money.
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Ano wnat Padely realized was that once
one of these multinational corporations
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KOOK OVEF A Major Networlk,
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Key would immediately try to make
the news area into a profit center.
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And iin the process of doing that,
they would obviously be willing
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to bastarcize the news and to male iit
into 2 total entertainment situation,
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Ladies and gentlemen,
ine Network News Four
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wir Siloyl the Sooiisayer!
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-[cramatic music plays]
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(Gottiried!] (But Ae would discuss
alll of his ideas,
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and we were together practically every day
for tares or four hours.
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Wheat would happen ts
we'd sit in his office very frequently
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pDecause we had Offices nearoy,
and as we talked,
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ned oe typing away
or writing on a yellow pad.
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And trequently, we'd talk
and I'd come up with something in return,
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and hed come up
with something far better, obviously.
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But | Guess... TING greatest value,
| guess, that | could bring to it
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Was NOt SO MUGA COMING UP win the ideas
but assessing them and evaluating them.
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And it was the bouncing-oir of ideas that
kind of energized him into doing more.
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BU It LOOK him aloout a yealr
to complete the script.
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Bun tat was more than 2 first drat
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When we handed it in, it was, you Know,
a finn dratt because, you know,
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Wwe Kept Working ON these things
until we both felt, particularly Paddy,
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Kina it was reallly what he wanted
to get out of ft.
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And once we handed tt tn,
dere were very minor changes, very minor.
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TV is Showolz, Max:
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All| | Know is this violates every canon
of respectable broadcasting.
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(Goturied] We didnt have a deal on it.
We did it on what they call “spec.”
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And we made a deal then
with United Artists,
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and we were aloout ready to move forward.
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Ane Artnur rin,
wino was tinen tne head or Unitied Artists
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and a guy wino loved Network, actually,
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NS wanted US to mest with his executive
vice president of business atiairs.
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SO we thouglat he wanted!
to talk about some deal points.
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And we go into his ofice, and he says:
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“| Aave a problem
wit the Howard Beale character.”
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‘SO Paddy looks att him
[chuckles] and says:
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“YOu have a proolem
wite the Howard Beale character?”
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And lhe said, “Yes, | cdo."
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Padealy got up, lett the room,
left the building,
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anc went loack to lis office!
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Its hot that Paddy was not willing
KORCISCUSSEAES ERO
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OU tO CISCUSS It with the Executive
vice president of business atiairs,
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not that he doesnt have any notions
that are perhaps worthwhile,
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out ints not what tis Is gloouu
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| mean, you've got enough proslems
making a film,
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and ir everyoody's gonna start coming In
wit cinrerent ideas aloout characters...
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Anyhow, subsequently,
| met with Arthur Krim,
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and Arthur said, “Jeez,
iat was unfortunate, what happened,”
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"Theyre gonna hold up moving forward.”
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SO we contacted Paddy's lawyer,
wino called them
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and said, “LOOK, if you dont wanna
move forward, just release the project."
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And they cid release Mt
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But word Got around that they released tt;
and we got aloout a half dozen calls
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rom Gitverent stucios!
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Ane eventually,
we were gonna make a deal with MGM.
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But United Artists
were the distrioutors for MGM,
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and they got in toucn with MGM and said,
MMIC ASCHCIMUSHOCMIMOMEORAISO
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as Paricipants, you Know,
in financing it and in the protits, etc."
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‘SO they came lack into the picture.
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But ONS Of the misconceptions
that a lot of people have about Paddy
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is that he was very Gitricult
with his own works
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and it was very ditticult
to get him to change things
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or to listen to other people's Opinions.
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Nina's Hot true at alll]
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Paddy was always Open to ideas,
and he was willing to work with the people
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Wwino were involved in tie production!
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a hands-on producer of the film.
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Not only was Ine the writer;
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lout In Order to protect iis words,
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Ne kept procucorial... HOt just the creat
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OuK tne actual activity:
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‘SO he was on the set every day.
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rie would come to dailies every night.
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And! Ae waticned actors to make sure
they could get what he was saying,
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say what he was writing, actually.
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(Gottiriec|] Paddy's great love
was the theater,
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and he wrote aloout six or eight plays,
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many oF which were on Broadway:
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And in the theater,
it is the writer who is king.
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SO wien @ play is procluced,
it's “by Tennessee Williams,"
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“oy Paddy Chayetsky,”
“oy Arthur Miller,” you name it.
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SO it always was “by Paddy Chayetsky. \
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Not “sereenplay loy” or “story loy”
or anything like that.
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“By Paddy Chayetsky.|
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SO tine idea of Paddy's creciit
was essentially how he felt
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aloout lls MOVIC SCFipt, Which Was exacily
how he telt aloout his theater scripts.
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As IS Mass macness!
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in Good at My WOrK:
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(Gottiriec|] We lhad called Sidney because
Paddy had worked with him on television.
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[Lumet] | elevision was
where | began directing, actually:
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| had a dear triend then,
Yul Brynner, wio--
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ThAis is betore lhe cid King and I
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and he began working at CBS,
and he called me one day and he said:
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[Russian accent]
"Sidney, they're crazy down here.
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Nobody knows whet they're doing,
Come along.”
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lin normal voice] And | went down,
and a wonderful guy
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by the name or Crarile Underinill
was in charge of hiring for CBS then,
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and | was lhired like that
anc became Yul's assistant.
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And then wren Yul leit to do King and I;
| took over his show,
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a Silly melodrama
put a pretty good show, called Danger.
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And when | was doing Danger,
Paddy Chayetsky did his first script.
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ils tirst television script he sole]
was on Danger.
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Bul we Saw eacn other Over the years,
you know, just around
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and always liked eacn oer.
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rie Was one of the funniest men
who ever lived,
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é kind of wondertul,
otter, wild humor albout him.
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And two and a halt years
before we did the movie,
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he called me and ine said, “Sidney,
do you wanna do a movie about television?”
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| said, “Paddy,
the day you're ready, call me."
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And he dic, and it was that simple.
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When we made our ceal with Sicihey Lumet,
he certainly is a powerful enough
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and Important enough cirector
to have the final Cutt
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But we didnt give lim the tinal cut,
and he didnt want it,
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ne realized that this was a partnership.
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You know, it was Paddy's loaloy;
and it was= Fle was directing.
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But Sidney dicin’t have ditiicultty
working with Paddy as a writer.
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You know, we had cditrerences of opinion,
but like everything else,
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we cl resolve them,
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Say something, tor God's sake.
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What we're going to see now
is something really sensational.
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I'm gonna blow my brains out
right on the air.
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RIGIAt in the miciclle or the 7:00 news:
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You'll get a hell or a rating,
lll guaranties you that.
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Paddy and || always used to saly that,
"No, it’s not a satire.
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It's sneer reportage. |lauglis]
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And it turned Out to le alosolutely true.
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(rienrixsen] Look at the realliiy shows
iat are on Dow,
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| mean, he talked aloout that, you know:
“Tur that sihitioox off"
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that was his whole thing.
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And tine reality shows, ine had talked
aloout them before they ever arrived.
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An, hell, why limit ourselves’?
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EXECUTION OF the week!
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ll errorist or the week!
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| Jove fi.
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It was basically a very serious movie
told in comedic terms.
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The thing that some people coniuse
is that it’s not just about television.
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Paddy was 4 visionary
about what was going on in the world.
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| mean, he precicted in Network
the globalization of the world.
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(Jonsen] One vast
and ecumenical holding company
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ror whom alll men will work
to serve a common profit,
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in which alll recA will hole
a share of stock,
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all necessities provided,
all anxieties tranquilized:
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A\nd that's wnat's been happening
more anc more
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in our whole culture, alll over tie world.
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Oloviously, it's not just America:
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But the beauty of what Paddy did
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Is that Ae Understood
winat tis business was aloout,
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i's an entertainment that we gotta co.
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No matter what we want to say,
no matter how we want to say it,
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Ir you con't entertain,
you're Not gonna be successful,
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ANG NODOEY'S GONNA GO to Seq
what it is that you have to say.
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And he was increciiole thet way:
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| mean, let's tace It,
Network is a hilarious movie in many ways.
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(Floware]] im going to blow my brains out
right on this program a week from today.
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-(PA] Ten seconds to commercial
=S0 tune in next Tuesday.
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hat Should give ine public-relations
people a week to promote the show.
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(Gottiriec!]| Untortunately, Paddy
nassed away when he was 58 years old.
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rie was a relatively young man
and very much ready to continue writing
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and would have unquestionaloly writien
some fantastic material,
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Ane God knows,
what's been happening since his death,
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iere Was @ lot or room for is writing.
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But ls ContiriloutION to flim
ISPUSMEMONMOUSS
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SO dont have any illusions alooutt
who's running this network from now on
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Youre tired!
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You're dressed like tie tule.
You eat like the tule,
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You raise your children like thie tuloe,
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And Aeré are a tew scenes
OMMNOVOCKESES NONE
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[Lumet] Network had
a very tough casting problem
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because, first of alll,
| needled rilliant actors,
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And tien, also, | neecied aciors
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that, you know, could oe tunny
without having to be funny.
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Who uncerstood the nature of comedy,
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Wihiicn Is that it has to look
like it’s periectly natural,
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out it's not perfectly natural.
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I's a very tough, hard line to tollow:
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The light is impending!
| bear witness to the light!
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Lumet] Also, there was
another consiceration
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loecause United Artists
was very nervous about the script.
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You know, there were no pies tying
in this comedy.
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‘SO one of the things we talked albout was
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now we could get as good a group
of names together.
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(Gottiriec!]| Well, the casting
was something that, again,
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Paddy was very, very involved wit,
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and SO was, Oloviously,
Sidney Lumet, the director.
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And as a matter of fact,
INVASHIMNVOMECEOON
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Ihe three of us would discuss the casting
and particularly the lead,
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Fioward Beale, needing the qualities
that are not so common in many actors.
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And we spent 2 lot of time on that part,
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In tact, we had to just put oi production
to get somebody we were happy with.
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‘SO if you want thie truth, go to God,
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jo to your gurus,
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GO to yourselves,
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DOecause that’s the only place
you're ever going to find any real truth.
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Lumet] Padoy came up with lim.
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it was Paddy's idea. And! | loved lls worik!
| knew his work very well.
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| had seen lhim in London on the stage
as well as movies,
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lout | was atraid of the accent,
you know, because he was British.
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‘So we had made an inquiry to his agent.
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Ihe agent knew that t was a great part,
Fle read the script.
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And one day Peter Finch callled
and he said, if we would be good enough
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to send him a tape of Walter Cronkite
or John Chancsllior
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or any One OF the evening ancnors,
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ne would send us back a tape
in two weeks with a periect accent.
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That's exactly what we cid.
The tape arrived, and we lhired him.
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Well, I'll tell you what happened:
[ just ran out of bullshit.
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PAN] Fight, cut hin off.
Leave im on.
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Lumet] Bill IFrlolden always, to me,
Nac 2 real sense of sacness iin the face.
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And we have a saying among ourselves
that you cast for the third act.
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YOu cast tor what the character
finally winds up as being.
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And tie third act or Bill's character
is a guy who's lost.
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| reel lousy aloout the pain
that I've caused my wie and my kids.
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| reel Quilty ane cConscience-siricken
and all of those things
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Kat you think sentimental
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Ou WhIGA my generation callls
simple human decency.
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Lumet] There were a lot of actors
who could have played it,
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Out We were Siting around one day,
all of a sudden, “How aloout Bill Holden?”
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Pes
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=nol Of discussion!
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You know, the script went off
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and tine response was immediate.
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[Gottiricd|| We wanted somebody, you know,
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wito could have an aiiair
with Faye Dunaway
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ane you would loelieve tt
and yet had the size and the gravitas,
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SO to speak, Of SOMEONE WhO would lbs
a network official in charge of news.
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| arn NOt putting lrlowared back on the ail.
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It's Hot your show anymore, Mian.
I's mine.
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[Lumet] he tirst thing aloout
that character that Faye Dunaway plays
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is that she had to joe loeaurtiul
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Very limporiant.
She's this seductress, ater alll.
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Secondly, tt had to be an actress
who didnt want to be loved,
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who didnt get up on the screen
and want to pe loved,
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A\nd it was interesting because Faye
is the only one | wanted to talk to
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oeiore we lnired her, because | just wanted
to Make sure aloout that.
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| cldint know her personally.
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But | knew trom her work
that she was very seliless and devoted,
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and sae had read the Script,
gotten back to us immediately:
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Yes, she wanted to do tt.
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Dunaway] TAls was sometning
iat was around,
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It was something that It was such
an original piece of material
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tat, you know, the powers that loe
didn’t quite know what to make of itt.
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And | never will torget
looking at the pages,
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and there were speecnes like that,
and everyoody was very nervous aloout this,
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Lumet] | went up to her aparument.
She was living on Central Park West:
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A\nd tie elevator opened
into the apariment.
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And as | was coming out of tie elevator,
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She Was shting there
looking so beautiful,
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and lberore sie saic| a word, || saids
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“Paye, | Know tine tirst question
youre going to ask me.
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Youre going to ask me,
Where's her vulnerability?’
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And Ina telling you here and now,
she bas none.
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And if you try to sneak itt in,
ll cut it out in the cutting room."
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Fie cleln’t tall into that trap
where we say, “Oh, here’s this character.
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Now let's try to explain her, anc say:
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‘Well, tits is way she's like she ts,
you know.”
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You dont co tinat. iis Is wao sie Is]
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And then it's up to me and the writer
LORSOMMEMOWECTSANEESOMNCRMNOMNE INE
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somewnere in there that you have a sense
of what she's paying for.
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But that's the most
one should ever cdo, | think.
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You know, you cant explain a character!
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-You have a favorite restaurant?
-| eat anything.
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[Dunaway] It was something
that wasn't casy to say yes to,
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and | was advised loy alll my triends
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and people wno cared aloout me
not to do It,
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because, you know, she didn't have a soul.
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She was 2 TV baby,
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Which meant that there was a kind
OMVACAMINESSHOS MINORNOSERE CSE
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And people were atrraicl
that | would be thought of in that way.
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BU it was something
tat | couldn't not do, because | thought:
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“iit | Can intuse the perrormance
with some sense
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or wnat she's paying Tor this lire,
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or what kine! Of POIgnaNncy... |
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Ano | tink | digi
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| think there was something there
that you felt...
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You couldn't put your tinger on It, mayoe,
but you felt for this character.
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i's probally in the writing:
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| seem to be Inept at everyting
except my work.
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Were talking aloout putting a maniiestly
irresponsible man on national television.
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(Gottiricd|]| Duvall was a last-minute iciea.
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We just never relt right aloout it
with anyone else.
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Lumet] That was my crazy idea.
| didnt know why | thought of him for it
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Because you con't think or Rooert Duvall
in. 2 character that wears 2 tuxedo,
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Ano! Padaly thought tor a moment.
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rie said, “Yealn, ae could be Soutihiem,*
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pecause, you know, Bol still has
a lite bit of that in his soeech.
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And again, an immeciate response
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And! loy the way, what's tascinating eloout
Duvall’s periormance is how funny he is.
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(So down to the mailroom,
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As of this minute, over 14,000 telegrams,
The response is sensational.
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Fiero tell nim.
riero’s phone hasn't stopped ringing.
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every goddamned...
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Dunaway] e's the guy | gotta get past,
and he’s the one lve gotta talk=
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I've got these brilliant ideas, you know?
We're two of a kind, | think.
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re understands exactly what I'm saying,
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and | know exactly what to saly to lhim
that will make him go for the idea.
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And l'n tirmly convinced, | know,
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dia these ideas
are going to have a 50 share
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and 2... [rattles off gilbloerish]...
You know?
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Oh, tor God's sakes, Diana,
are YOU Suggesting we put that lunatic
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pack on the air, yelling bullshit?
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(Diana Yes. | think we snAould put Beale
back on the air tonight
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and Keep lnm On.
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Dic] you see the news this moming?
Did you see The Times?
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[Dunaway] They were tun Scenes
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lpecause Bold Is SO unique
as @ performer and an actor.
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You know, he's just so genuine,
and he never lies,
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ewe moicrones)
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is always happening to him:
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Its not happening to the Characier.
rie never uses third person, you know.
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(Iaughs] Irie's always: “Tl! 1."
You know, which is right.
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I'S Got to be so personal:
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So ne was 2 lot or un to..J
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Because he's also very smart,
so he got it,
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ane you could see his mind kind or working
it out as Diana was laying it out to him.
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rll Get back to you, Diana!
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| sold sewing machines
and automobile parts,
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nairorushnes and electronic equipment.
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‘They say | can sell anytning.
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|Gottiriec|] The Ned Beatty part was cast
with somebody else originally.
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And when Sidney was rehearsing...
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We had two weeks of rehearsal
oerTore we started to shoot.
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ocalt OOCAMS ODVIOUS that the person
that we had cast just couldn't carry It.
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SO because tie scene
wasn't going to le shot till later on,
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we just started a lhunt tor that character.
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Ane we couldn't come up with somelocly
who we elt could fill the role,
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And we were just having luncn one day,
and Bob Altman was there,
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and we were alll talking
aloout the ditiiculty in that character,
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anc Boo Altman said,
"| got the guy for you.
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Its Ned Beatty."
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[Lumet] Ihe poor main,
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No actor should have to work
under those circumstances.
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Fie flew in, Stuclying the seript
as he came, leaming the lines:
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| met with him on a Sunday,
did the first work with him,
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and loegan shooting with him
the following Monday,
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DSCAUSS WE did Not have a large budget
for this movie,
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and so every day's Shooting mattered!
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Ana Ned, laless (hin,
Came on Se Set So Nervous
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DeCAUSE the pressure on him to=
First of all, just to memorize fit.
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rie had a four-page speecan.
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| think somebody may have mentioned that
I'd had a lot of theatrical background
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and had done some Shakespeare,
because, quite frankly,
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when | got down to Working on it,
this was more like doing a speech
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irom Shakespeare than it was anything else
I'd ever done in a film, certainly.
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ere are ho nations,
here are NO peoples,
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Knere are No Russians, there are no Aralos.
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There are no third worlds.
‘Tiaere is no West
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here is only one holistic sysiem
of systems,
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One vast and immane, interwoven,
interacting, multivariate,
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multinational dominion of collars,
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|Gottiriec!] Fie was a great joys
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And he got an Academy Award nomination
for that part.
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And it's just one big scene, reallly.
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You willl atone!
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Am | getting through to you, Mr. Beale?
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[Gottiricd|| And interestingly enough, too,
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us SCENE aloout the loreakup
of the marriage,
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that was tine only scene
that Beatrice Straight had,
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aside trom a Couple of just pass-throughs.
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Don't keep telling me
that you're obsessed,
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that you're infatuated.
Say that you're in love with her.
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Ane sae won tie Academy Aware
jor that scene.
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And sie was up
against some very well-known
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and very terrific actresses.
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But site worked for one week,
and she got the Academy Award:
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she could break your heart in that scene.
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And tf you can't Work Up
a winter passion tor me,
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wie least | require
is respect and allegiance:
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[Lumet] It was important
that he walk away from something,
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hina Ine leaves something very valualole.
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And | could think or nothing more valualle
than Beatrice Straight.
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Shed... SAS Was
an incredibly beautiful woman.
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And |e! been working
with Beatrice Straight on and off
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in live television for years!
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Creat soul.
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Youre in tor some dreaciiul grier, Mlen<:
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(Giirord] Fucking fascist]
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Did you see tne tlm we mace
of the San Marino jail oreakoutt
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demonstrating the FISINg UP OF
4 seminal orisoner-class intrastructure?
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WY OU CAIN.
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[Katty] | played Mary Ann Gitrore
in the movie,
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enc it was kine of modeled airer
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the Patty riearst “heiress kidnapped
oy the Symbionese Liberation Army.”
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Only in this case,
it was the Ecumenical Lilberation Army,
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an incredible opportunity for me
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DSecaUuse | was JUS Staring out
as an aciress,
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directed by Sidney Lumet
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ano written loy Paddy Chayersky;
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even though it was quite a small part,
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was phenomenal.
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(Flerron] That's the Great Almed Kalan.
Hie’s their leader.
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|Goturied] The Great Anmed Kalin
was a fun bit of casting,
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loecause | hac a small office,
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and this huge mountain of a guy comes in;
and he was angry. [laughs]
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| mean, Ae kine or wanted to show us
that he’s right for ft.
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And he started out real vicious-like,
and he was screaming at us and everything.
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In any event, of all the people we saw,
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we felt he would be the most efrective guy
ror that role.
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Lets get back to page 22, 5a,
subsidiary rights.
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[Kathy] Arthur Surgharet, wio played
the Great Ahmed Kahn, was a vegetarian.
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Ane Of course, we had take ater take
with him eating this tried chicken.
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Ane not only was he a vegetarian,
but he was very healt conscious
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even loack tien, in tne “70s.
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‘SO he had a bucket sitting down
at the side of the talole.
437
00:24:37,743 --> 00:24:41,413
A\nd then as soon as they'd saly “cult, "
he'd... Spit it down into the bucket
438
00:24:41,547 --> 00:24:43,182
and Wipe his MOUKA Out, you Know.
439
00:24:43,315 --> 00:24:45,384
Then hAe'a have to do kt again.
Fle was like, "Ugh."
440
00:24:45,517 --> 00:24:46,418
IK was hormiole to im!
441
00:24:46,552 --> 00:24:50,89
All of these actors
were king of woncdertul actors.
442
00:24:50,222 --> 00:24:53,692
They dicin’ hole! up the set.
They didnt have problems. They=
443
00:24:53,826 --> 00:24:56,662
You know, we alll worlked together
as a kind of professional.
444
00:24:56,795 --> 00:25:00,132
Lumet] What was thrilling
was that we never got a turncdown.
445
00:25:00,265 --> 00:25:02,534
Whoever we seni tine script to said yes.
446
00:25:02,701 --> 00:25:06,905
Usually, somewnere down tne line,
you've got second, third, fourth choices,
447
00:25:07,72 --> 00:25:10,576
and then finally some compromised choices.
Not on Network
448
00:25:11,43 --> 00:25:14,279
EVveryoody there was the first Choice,
and they knew it.
449
00:25:25,557 --> 00:25:29,595
Yesterday, | ANNHOUNCEE ON this program
that | was going to commit public suicide.
450
00:25:30,496 --> 00:25:32,97
Adlmitecly an act of madness.
451
00:25:33,198 --> 00:25:36,201
Well, I'll tell you what happened:
[ just ran out of bullshit.
452
00:25:36,335 --> 00:25:37,836
|Gotturied] Ihe part or Peter Fincn
453
00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:41,874
was complicated loy the tact
inet tere is a madness in hina
454
00:25:42,41 --> 00:25:47,413
Ane! writing that part
and keeping it real, we really pushed it.
455
00:25:47,579 --> 00:25:51,283
And that, incidentally,
was Obviously also part of the reason
456
00:25:51,417 --> 00:25:54,386
that casting that part was so diticullt,
457
00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:57,589
DeCAUSS the reality has to loe there.
458
00:25:58,223 --> 00:26:02,795
| mean, if the guy is completely mad,
you lose that sense of reality.
459
00:26:02,928 --> 00:26:06,799
A\nd tae scene where le does shout
“lr mad as hell,”
460
00:26:06,965 --> 00:26:12,871
here Is loth the reality or his passion,
which you have to feel
461
00:26:13,05 --> 00:26:15,908
because he cid feel that deeply,
tne Howard Beale character.
462
00:26:16,75 --> 00:26:19,278
We sit in the house, and slowly the world
we're living in is getting smaller.
463
00:26:19,411 --> 00:26:22,915
And! alll we saly Is, “Please, att least
leave us alone in our living rooms.
464
00:26:23,48 --> 00:26:26,318
Let me have my toaster and my IV
and my steeHoelted racials
465
00:26:26,452 --> 00:26:27,486
and | wont say anyitning.
466
00:26:27,653 --> 00:26:30,589
Just leave us alone.”
Well, ia not going to leave you alone.
467
00:26:30,722 --> 00:26:31,957
| want you to get mac!
468
00:26:32,91 --> 00:26:34,359
[thunder crashes, tien rumioles|
469
00:26:37,362 --> 00:26:40,132
| want alll or you
tO Get UP oUt of your chairs.
470
00:26:40,833 --> 00:26:44,203
| want you to get Up Fight now
and go to the window,
471
00:26:44,336 --> 00:26:47,573
Open It, and stick your head out and yell:
472
00:26:47,739 --> 00:26:51,743
"lm as mad as hell,
and I'm not gonna take this anymore!”
473
00:26:51,877 --> 00:26:53,612
[Dunaway] Finca, he Is just so nutty
474
00:26:53,745 --> 00:26:58,484
and so dignitied within
that kine of machness that he went to,
475
00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:01,420
And, yOu know,
ne created an indelible character,
476
00:27:01,587 --> 00:27:04,623
with those people opening tie windows
and shouting “I'm mad as hell,
477
00:27:04,790 --> 00:27:08,160
and I'm not gonna take hk anymore.”
| mean, you know, it’s great.
478
00:27:08,293 --> 00:27:11,163
Wiaen Peter Finch clic
479
00:27:11,296 --> 00:27:15,634
Kine “mad as hell” soliloquy,
480
00:27:15,767 --> 00:27:19,04
de tirst take was alosolutely magniticent.
481
00:27:19,138 --> 00:27:24,576
And | said] to the crew,
"Don't cut. Peter, sit down again.
482
00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:28,46
| wanna go trom the beginning
without a break,”
483
00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:32,251
lpecause | reallly wanted lnim
in such 2 siais of madness
484
00:27:33,218 --> 00:27:35,954
that where he left off
is where | wanted him to begin.
485
00:27:36,788 --> 00:27:39,925
And he was very thrown by that
486
00:27:40,92 --> 00:27:44,196
pecause lhe hac poured everything AS coule
Into the take.
487
00:27:44,963 --> 00:27:47,866
And! ne-= Burt he went back,
he started again,
488
00:27:48,00 --> 00:27:52,37
and he got halhway through again,
and then he stopped and he said:
489
00:27:52,171 --> 00:27:55,874
“Sidney, | can't anymore.”
Fle said, “I'm so exhausted, | can't.”
490
00:27:56,08 --> 00:27:58,410
| sald, “Peter, no problem.
The first take was loriiiiant.”
491
00:27:58,544 --> 00:28:02,447
And So that’s what's in the movie,
ine first haly of tae second take...
492
00:28:02,581 --> 00:28:04,583
its like everything everywhere
is going crazy,
493
00:28:04,716 --> 00:28:05,817
SO WE Clon t GO OU anymore.
494
00:28:05,951 --> 00:28:08,53
[Lumet] ...and the second hall
Of the Tirst take.
495
00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:12,591
YOu Ve gotta say “I am as mad as hell,
and I'm not gonna take this anymore!”
496
00:28:12,724 --> 00:28:15,494
I'm mad as hell,
and I'm not gonna take it anymore}
497
00:28:15,627 --> 00:28:18,130
I'm mad as hell!
I'm not gonna take kt anymore}
498
00:28:18,263 --> 00:28:20,599
Lumet] Ihat was In the seript,
out it wasn't detailed,
499
00:28:20,766 --> 00:28:24,736
What Paddy wrote, as | remember, was
“And alll over the city,
500
00:28:24,903 --> 00:28:28,674
WIncows are Opening
and people are joining in” and so on,
501
00:28:28,807 --> 00:28:32,678
(Gottiried|] Sicihey originally thought
that it might be fun to do itt
502
00:28:32,844 --> 00:28:36,748
with people screaming Out their cars
and people walking down the street
503
00:28:36,882 --> 00:28:40,85
and just every ditrerent kind of way.
504
00:28:40,252 --> 00:28:45,257
And Paddy insisted that he reallly telkt
it should be just numbers of people
505
00:28:45,390 --> 00:28:49,94
GoINg to their windows,
just leaving their homes, and just
506
00:28:49,228 --> 00:28:51,330
“lm mad as hell.
I'm not gonna take kt anymore.”
507
00:28:51,463 --> 00:28:54,499
Whicn Sidney ultimately telt
was the best waly to do it also,
508
00:28:54,633 --> 00:28:57,569
I'm mad as hell,
and I'm not going to take itt
509
00:28:57,736 --> 00:29:01,306
[Lumet] And loecause of loucget,
| shot that whole sequence in one night,
510
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,141
and it was part or the regular schedule,
511
00:29:03,275 --> 00:29:05,43
DeCaUSe WEN you have
to do night shooting,
512
00:29:05,210 --> 00:29:09,248
generally you save it tor Fricay night
in case you have to go very late
513
00:29:09,381 --> 00:29:11,116
SO that you dont have to work
on Saturday.
514
00:29:11,283 --> 00:29:15,53
[Rosenberg] It started at the Aptiorpe
when Holden's daughter goes to the window.
515
00:29:15,220 --> 00:29:18,590
Ane tien it siatits to various locations
and ends up in that building
516
00:29:18,724 --> 00:29:20,959
on Sixta Avenue in the 50s
that was empty
517
00:29:21,126 --> 00:29:25,264
Kinat we had dressed into a complete...
probably hundreds of apartments.
518
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:29,234
It was a luilding that was going to be
torn down. It was an abancioned building.
519
00:29:29,401 --> 00:29:33,905
So it made it much more citiculk
for my crew lbecause every single room,
520
00:29:34,72 --> 00:29:37,42
every aparmeni, had to have equipment
in it, had to have lights in it
521
00:29:37,209 --> 00:29:40,579
and elecirichy run to it because
there was No electricity in the louilding:
522
00:29:40,746 --> 00:29:45,117
And so it was a monumental rigging task
for my electrical crew.
523
00:29:45,717 --> 00:29:48,620
And then the staging
ror the assistant cirectors
524
00:29:48,754 --> 00:29:51,123
to get alll tne extras
tO GO UP into those rooms
525
00:29:51,290 --> 00:29:54,359
ANd stick their Aeads Out thie wincow
at the right time and yell,
526
00:29:54,493 --> 00:29:55,827
anc then for us to cover them,
527
00:29:55,961 --> 00:29:58,163
We covered hen trom all_ over!
528
00:29:58,297 --> 00:30:02,134
We covered them trom the ground,
we covered them from a balcony
529
00:30:02,267 --> 00:30:05,03
across the street, all ditrerent angles:
530
00:30:05,170 --> 00:30:10,509
A\nd also, we had to use lightning macnines
and rain effects, and it was huge.
531
00:30:10,642 --> 00:30:12,511
it was 2 monstrous undertaking.
532
00:30:12,644 --> 00:30:15,380
Normally, a second unit
would shoot something like that,
533
00:30:15,514 --> 00:30:17,282
out we did It ourselves!
534
00:30:18,417 --> 00:30:20,585
Stiek your head out
and keep yelling, and yell:
535
00:30:20,719 --> 00:30:24,89
Tin as mad as hell!
im not gonna take this anymore!”
536
00:30:24,222 --> 00:30:25,657
[[Katiny] Now it's the power
or tae Intemet.
537
00:30:25,791 --> 00:30:27,292
Then it was the power of television.
538
00:30:27,426 --> 00:30:30,195
-lwoman] Where are you going’?
-| wanna see if anybody's yelling:
539
00:30:30,329 --> 00:30:33,332
[Kaitiny] But that scene
and the power of the people
540
00:30:33,465 --> 00:30:37,02
was a very powerrul Image
541
00:30:37,169 --> 00:30:40,672
and something that, as,
you know, | was still pretty rebellious
542
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:45,243
and that whole kine of youtiniul charge ot;
you know:
543
00:30:45,377 --> 00:30:47,179
YOU Te taking OUP Country
and wrecking it.
544
00:30:47,312 --> 00:30:49,381
I'm not gonna sit here Tor It,"
was very powerful,
545
00:30:49,514 --> 00:30:50,782
and it gave me a2 Sense ot;
546
00:30:50,949 --> 00:30:54,386
you know, if enough people get mad enough,
things will change.
547
00:30:56,588 --> 00:30:59,925
Ihe catchphrase was “lm mad as hell,
and | won't take it anymore.”
548
00:31:00,92 --> 00:31:03,762
| remember at the time the Movie opened,
there were J-shirts all over town
549
00:31:03,895 --> 00:31:07,432
and various products had them
on bags and oni...
550
00:31:07,566 --> 00:31:12,404
And so the picture lbenertited
A great deal in publicity by that.
551
00:31:12,971 --> 00:31:16,942
Paday wrote the line,
and Sidney figured out a way
552
00:31:17,75 --> 00:31:19,611
tO Get tne whole worle screaming,
553
00:31:19,745 --> 00:31:22,681
and it became a phrase
you still hear today.
554
00:31:22,848 --> 00:31:26,918
[Lumet] At the time | reac the script,
it just seemed like a wonderfully funny,
555
00:31:27,52 --> 00:31:29,87
Kerritic SPeeGn:
556
00:31:29,221 --> 00:31:33,925
| never had any idea tat tt would
become the-- Part of the language.
557
00:31:34,92 --> 00:31:37,129
But I'll tell you when | did get an idea
that it might become
558
00:31:37,262 --> 00:31:40,932
that kind of mad expression
that everybody would connect with:
559
00:31:41,66 --> 00:31:43,402
ne Tirst time | saw the picture
with an aucionce.
560
00:31:43,568 --> 00:31:48,340
[in unison] We're mad as hell,
and we're not gonna take it anymore!
561
00:31:48,473 --> 00:31:51,109
Lumet] There was not only
enormous laughter happening
562
00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:53,78
aS tne scene louilt,
563
00:31:53,211 --> 00:31:55,414
lout people in the audience
were starting to call out
564
00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:57,883
"lm mad as hell,
and I'm not gonna take it anymore!”
565
00:31:58,16 --> 00:31:59,918
Calling, yelling back at the screen.
566
00:32:00,85 --> 00:32:03,755
And then Paday and | were siting
together, and we looked at each other,
567
00:32:03,889 --> 00:32:06,391
and we just hac smiles like that
On Our face
568
00:32:06,525 --> 00:32:08,760
DSCauUSS We knew we were
onto something special.
569
00:32:10,695 --> 00:32:12,597
[Beatty] | would like to channel
lee Marvin.
570
00:32:12,764 --> 00:32:16,468
I'd say, “I'm mad as inelll,
and I'm not gonna take it anymore.”
571
00:32:17,35 --> 00:32:21,72
I'd lke to Go it calmly like that.
But that’s not really who | am.
572
00:32:21,206 --> 00:32:25,110
Who | am is: “I'm mad as hell.
I'm not gonna take kt anymore!”
573
00:32:25,844 --> 00:32:30,415
I'm mad as hell,
and I'm not going to take it anymore.
574
00:32:31,917 --> 00:32:33,919
-its gonna make me Giggle.
This is so funny,
575
00:32:34,52 --> 00:32:35,720
tO just le sitting here out of context,
576
00:32:35,854 --> 00:32:38,657
I'm mad as hell,
and I'm not gonna take it anymore.
577
00:32:38,790 --> 00:32:39,724
lexnales)
578
00:32:39,858 --> 00:32:43,94
I'm mad as hell,
and I'm not gonna take it anymore}
579
00:32:43,995 --> 00:32:47,632
I'm as mad as hell,
and I'm not gonna take this anymore.
580
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:50,335
I'm mad as hell,
and I'm not gonna take this anymore.
581
00:32:50,469 --> 00:32:51,903
laughs and mumbles}
582
00:33:03,882 --> 00:33:05,917
| want angry shows:
583
00:33:06,318 --> 00:33:08,987
im going to blow my brains out
right on this program.
584
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,589
ne Desi Four.
585
00:33:11,256 --> 00:33:13,592
[static Crackling]
586
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,196
Lumet] | rehearsed with the cast
for two weeks,
587
00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:20,432
and ik was a wonderul rehearsal period.
588
00:33:20,565 --> 00:33:22,234
Bill Holden acl never reacarsec! loeore,
589
00:33:22,367 --> 00:33:27,506
rie had never rehearsed a movie.
And found himself so grateful for it.
590
00:33:27,672 --> 00:33:31,09
Faye, Of course, had had a lot
of theater experience, as had Peter,
591
00:33:31,576 --> 00:33:33,745
and thererore, it was, in a way;
592
00:33:33,879 --> 00:33:37,215
they were almost showing olden
how to use rehearsals,
593
00:33:37,349 --> 00:33:39,651
oecause lhe didn’t know
quite what to do with itt.
594
00:33:39,784 --> 00:33:43,922
But It Was a Very rich
and exciting rehearsal time.
595
00:33:44,89 --> 00:33:47,592
Fie would map out the world
that he was gonna have you work in,
596
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:52,597
and then he would renearse it to give
the actors a sense of continuity
597
00:33:52,731 --> 00:33:55,200
and where this Is going
ano what Ae wanis tron tiem.
598
00:33:55,333 --> 00:33:58,703
And lhe had this increciiole way
of coming up to you and saying:
599
00:33:59,204 --> 00:34:01,406
"Yes, baby.” You know? “Baloy, baloy, baby.”
600
00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:03,742
You know that thing he does?
It's a wonderful thing.
601
00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:08,747
But he made you Teel conticent
in what you'd been doing all along:
602
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,250
[Dunaway] TINS floor was tajoed out
just like the rooms that we'd be in.
603
00:34:12,384 --> 00:34:14,152
TASS WAS A GAANGS to reallly exolore
604
00:34:14,286 --> 00:34:16,254
and get to know
tie People you're working with,
605
00:34:16,421 --> 00:34:19,658
ANd Nobody Goss ins,
literally nobody, except Sidney Lumet.
606
00:34:19,791 --> 00:34:22,928
And it's something that has always
situck me as insane not to do,
607
00:34:23,428 --> 00:34:26,598
And what it does as a perormer Is,
when you get on that stage,
608
00:34:26,765 --> 00:34:29,901
you can then say, “You know,
| was thinking, what if instead of going
609
00:34:30,35 --> 00:34:32,704
to thie bookcase here, | went over here?”
610
00:34:32,871 --> 00:34:36,908
But you have that treedom lbecause you've
got to that point in your development.
611
00:34:37,42 --> 00:34:40,378
Whereas ir you come on a soundstage
and there's tine set there
612
00:34:40,512 --> 00:34:42,280
iat you've never seen loetore, [chuckles]
613
00:34:42,414 --> 00:34:44,716
you cant make
very profound choices, right?
614
00:34:44,883 --> 00:34:47,586
You know, you can, and! Or course you do
do your best and try to,
615
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,588
lout I'S JUSt SO MUCHA beter
616
00:34:49,721 --> 00:34:53,91
to have layered already
SOMERS CMSCROMM CHOC MONmanees
617
00:34:53,224 --> 00:34:57,662
And, you Know, if you have @ cratit,
you can certainly People say,
618
00:34:57,829 --> 00:35:01,600
‘Well, you won't oe impulsive enough,”
or "You won't be fresh enough.”
619
00:35:01,733 --> 00:35:02,734
cS NONSSeNSe.
620
00:35:03,568 --> 00:35:06,04
[Kathy] Paddy Chayetsky
was on te set 2 lot
621
00:35:06,137 --> 00:35:07,639
anc was fantastic!
622
00:35:07,772 --> 00:35:08,640
Whet a guy.
623
00:35:09,174 --> 00:35:12,77
You know, he was just... Fle was great.
624
00:35:13,11 --> 00:35:15,914
BUC WIS Is Just
a really embarrassing story:
625
00:35:16,47 --> 00:35:19,818
| had one line, basically,
anc twas 2 moutiniul,
626
00:35:19,951 --> 00:35:24,289
And | was so nalve and so young and...
627
00:35:25,423 --> 00:35:28,660
That | asked! Pacey Chayeisky
if Ae could change that line.
628
00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:31,329
And Ae was so kind,
and he was kind of saying:
629
00:35:31,463 --> 00:35:33,665
“Well, ho, you know,
you can tind a way to say iit.”
630
00:35:33,798 --> 00:35:36,735
Did you see tne tlm we mace
of the San Marino jail oreakoutt
631
00:35:36,901 --> 00:35:40,305
demonstrating the FISINg UP OF
4 seminal orisoner-class intrastructure?
632
00:35:40,739 --> 00:35:43,08
[Dunaway] | tain | tried to tallk him
into giving me
633
00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:45,577
A couple of naturalistic moments,
I'm sure. flaughs]
634
00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:48,713
Can't | have one moment
where you see how she's feeling?
635
00:35:49,581 --> 00:35:50,882
“NO, AO, NO.°
636
00:35:51,16 --> 00:35:52,751
Lumet] Ire began writing Network
637
00:35:52,884 --> 00:35:55,86
two and a halir years
losiore he sent it to me!
638
00:35:55,220 --> 00:35:57,889
rie did tell me ine had talked
to John Chancellor a lot,
639
00:35:58,23 --> 00:36:00,492
you know, the anchor tor NBC
640
00:36:00,625 --> 00:36:03,328
The rest of it, he knew.
Hie knew trom his own experience,
641
00:36:03,495 --> 00:36:07,265
| think the collaboration with Chayeisky
was one of the most thrilling things
642
00:36:07,432 --> 00:36:11,569
I've ever Nadi,
pecause we had our own area of expertise.
643
00:36:11,703 --> 00:36:16,41
Paddy himselt hac
very little visual sense.
644
00:36:17,242 --> 00:36:21,413
rie only knew i it was right or wrong,
US Of NOt IrUS.
645
00:36:21,546 --> 00:36:26,618
Where | needed him clesperatiely
was making sure
646
00:36:26,785 --> 00:36:29,721
that | got the laughter out of the seript
that was necessary.
647
00:36:29,854 --> 00:36:32,757
Because le knew So much more
about comedy than |.
648
00:36:33,792 --> 00:36:36,594
‘There's a scene where lrioward Beale
is walking along the street
649
00:36:36,761 --> 00:36:40,999
and he's in his pajamas and a raincoat,
and it's pouring rain,
650
00:36:41,132 --> 00:36:45,370
ANG AC COMES Into the studio
all soaking wet,
651
00:36:46,337 --> 00:36:49,908
Into the lodoy, and there's a2 guard,
a security guard, at the coor.
652
00:36:50,842 --> 00:36:52,444
Opens the door for him.
653
00:36:52,610 --> 00:36:56,281
And | sai! to the actor, “When he comes,
‘Sure thing, Mr. Beale.”
654
00:36:57,82 --> 00:36:58,116
And he goes In.
655
00:36:58,249 --> 00:37:01,219
Paddy rushed up to me.
Hie said, "No, no, no, Sidney,
656
00:37:01,352 --> 00:37:04,456
He Mmusint even notice that he's wet.
657
00:37:04,589 --> 00:37:09,427
rie musint notice that he's crazy.
rie lives in a crazy world, this guy.
658
00:37:09,594 --> 00:37:12,363
This Is normal to him.”
And of course, he was albsolutely right:
659
00:37:12,530 --> 00:37:17,01
| would have killed the laugin ir Ae had
done the line the way | wanted him to.
660
00:37:17,135 --> 00:37:18,536
It would not have oeen Tunny,
661
00:37:18,670 --> 00:37:21,172
-Fiow co you co, Mr. Beale?
-(Flowarel] | must make my witness,
662
00:37:21,306 --> 00:37:22,540
‘Sure thing, Mr. Beale.
663
00:37:22,674 --> 00:37:25,610
[Lumet] What kind of tring,
Paddy was lrreplacealole on.
664
00:37:25,744 --> 00:37:29,614
But it wasn't dificult at alll
to find the level of craziness in him,
665
00:37:29,748 --> 00:37:33,218
Decause tinat cepends totallly
on the actor who's playing the part.
666
00:37:33,384 --> 00:37:37,255
Some, you cain only go this tar
pecause they can't push it any farther.
667
00:37:37,722 --> 00:37:43,94
Peter Fincl was Such a ricn vehicle,
it could have gone God knows where:
668
00:37:43,628 --> 00:37:45,597
| pushed him as tar as fhe could go:
669
00:37:45,764 --> 00:37:50,735
And you will not take me oir the air
for now or for any other soaceless time.
670
00:37:54,839 --> 00:37:55,874
[Maxx] Oln, boy.
671
00:37:56,407 --> 00:37:59,244
All we knew and all Sidney, | think,
tried to get us to do
672
00:37:59,377 --> 00:38:02,514
was to play it alosolutely ror reall,
Absolutely.
673
00:38:03,14 --> 00:38:04,849
You know, llire-anc-cleawi reall.
674
00:38:05,16 --> 00:38:08,319
And that's wnat made it tunny,
pecause what they were talking about
675
00:38:08,453 --> 00:38:09,988
was kind of crazy stutr’
676
00:38:10,121 --> 00:38:15,627
| want a show developed loased
on the activities of a terrorist group.
677
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,531
Lumet] But things like the relationship
oetween Holden's character
678
00:38:19,664 --> 00:38:23,234
and Dunaway's cnaracter
was so solidly grounded.
679
00:38:23,368 --> 00:38:27,372
Paddy Set UP SO easily
2 man in a miclive crisis
680
00:38:27,505 --> 00:38:29,841
and a young, boeautiirul, amloitious Girl,
681
00:38:30,341 --> 00:38:34,546
SO that, bang, 2S SOON as the two meet,
you know it’s almost inevitable.
682
00:38:34,913 --> 00:38:36,14
Is your wite In town’?
683
00:38:37,749 --> 00:38:38,583
Ves]
684
00:38:39,884 --> 00:38:41,786
Well, then we letter go to my place
685
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,724
NBC is Ofrering 3.25 mil per package
of tive James Bono movies.
686
00:38:46,858 --> 00:38:48,860
And Inn gonna stick
ihe Mao Tse-Tung Hour in at 8
687
00:38:49,27 --> 00:38:51,863
pecause we're having a lot or trouble
selling The Mao Tse-Tung hlour.
688
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:55,600
And Walter says welll all wind up
in federal prison.
689
00:38:56,334 --> 00:38:59,204
Dunaway] Tnat’s who she Is.
‘That's what turns her on, her work:
690
00:38:59,737 --> 00:39:04,742
Ane the tact that it was merged
with this sexual experience
691
00:39:04,909 --> 00:39:09,447
with the man she actually did kind of love
was just beautiful writing.
692
00:39:09,581 --> 00:39:10,682
It was just So funny!
693
00:39:10,815 --> 00:39:13,585
ne New York limes and the Washington Post
694
00:39:13,718 --> 00:39:16,120
will be writing two editorials
a week On US,
695
00:39:16,621 --> 00:39:19,591
We'll be tront page ror montis.
Weill have more press than Watergate.
696
00:39:19,724 --> 00:39:21,993
Dunaway] It was a hare scene
aS an AGiress
697
00:39:22,126 --> 00:39:24,462
thought well of to do. [chuckles]
698
00:39:24,596 --> 00:39:27,131
But it was, | Wlnlk,
very important for the character.
699
00:39:27,265 --> 00:39:30,68
You know,
it wasn't a naturalistic piece at alll.
700
00:39:30,201 --> 00:39:31,870
It was a lolack comedctys
701
00:39:32,03 --> 00:39:33,972
NBC's got a lock on dayume:
702
00:39:34,472 --> 00:39:36,207
Loves their game shows,
703
00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:39,244
[Dunaway] Thnere was only one
naturalistic scene in the whole thing,
704
00:39:39,377 --> 00:39:42,580
and that was with Beatrice Straight
woen Bill Holden lek her.
705
00:39:42,714 --> 00:39:45,750
| thought t was a transient thing,
ic plow over in a week.
706
00:39:47,85 --> 00:39:51,923
| still pray to God!
it's just a menopausal infatuation.
707
00:39:52,90 --> 00:39:55,793
Lumet] | knew that she had to get past
4 certain point
708
00:39:55,927 --> 00:39:59,530
or reallly almost exhaustion
before she'd hit it right.
709
00:39:59,697 --> 00:40:02,667
And the only way you clo that ts
oy shooting and shooting and shooting:
710
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,337
And || rememioer it was very charming
because arter albout the third take
711
00:40:06,504 --> 00:40:09,307
and she was getting bigger and bigger
and chewing the scenery,
712
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,543
and Paddy came over and le sald)
“Sidney, that's much too much.”
713
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:15,914
| said, “Paday, you know aloout comedy.
| know aloout divorce.
714
00:40:16,881 --> 00:40:19,117
So sit down. It'll be alll right."
715
00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:21,319
Because | knew exacily
what | was going for.
716
00:40:21,452 --> 00:40:23,321
| just let her, like a racehorse
717
00:40:23,488 --> 00:40:27,58
where you just want her to get that first
burst of speed out of her system.
718
00:40:27,191 --> 00:40:30,28
Is that what's lett tor me?
Is that my share?
719
00:40:30,161 --> 00:40:32,597
She gets the winter passion
and | get the dotage?
720
00:40:33,164 --> 00:40:35,99
What am | supposed to do?
Am | supposed to...
721
00:40:35,233 --> 00:40:37,502
Lumet] And then loy aloout take sb<,
take seven,
722
00:40:38,236 --> 00:40:39,737
it began to have a shape.
723
00:40:40,405 --> 00:40:42,974
And= Because | didnt wanna break it up:
724
00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:47,946
| knew | wanted
an emotional through line on it
725
00:40:48,79 --> 00:40:51,582
lout with 2 Shape to It,
and the shape had to be,
726
00:40:51,716 --> 00:40:55,787
Just as It would loe
in those real circumstances,
727
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,924
that you start with a lourst
out then you're drained slowly,
728
00:41:00,91 --> 00:41:03,695
it all runs Out,
and you just wind up so simply
729
00:41:03,861 --> 00:41:07,298
because there was nothing ler in her
anymore, no more feeling, no more tears.
730
00:41:07,432 --> 00:41:08,967
It was alll spent,
731
00:41:10,401 --> 00:41:12,36
| wont give you up easily, Mexx!
732
00:41:12,570 --> 00:41:18,409
[Lumet] Sle was so taloulous,
and | love how sympathetic she ts to him,
733
00:41:19,77 --> 00:41:21,379
| think perhaps It Is beter
if you move out.
734
00:41:21,512 --> 00:41:23,81
Lumet] As hurt as sine Is,
735
00:41:23,214 --> 00:41:25,917
ner heart is sull going out to him
because she loves him.
736
00:41:27,785 --> 00:41:29,420
[Louise] Does she love you, Max?
737
00:41:30,555 --> 00:41:33,624
(leim] Stutr thet makes sense
in the script often changes,
738
00:41:33,758 --> 00:41:35,526
and certainly that's what happened here.
739
00:41:35,693 --> 00:41:39,197
The scene with Beatrice Straight used
no Come loeiore the scene at the leach
740
00:41:39,364 --> 00:41:45,870
he ditrerence being thet when you saw
the scene with Faye Dunaway
741
00:41:46,04 --> 00:41:48,406
aiier the power or the scene
with his wite,
742
00:41:49,07 --> 00:41:52,777
you said to yourselt,
"Well, this guy's crazy."
743
00:41:52,944 --> 00:41:57,915
rere Ine Is In tals tormented relationship
where he’s not even enjoying the sex.
744
00:41:58,49 --> 00:42:02,320
lt made lAinn Out to be a clown.
SOMVEMMOMECRINEENVORSCOMe SHAOUINGE
745
00:42:03,421 --> 00:42:04,322
Wit Or without you,
746
00:42:04,455 --> 00:42:06,391
i'm going to take over
your network news show,
747
00:42:06,524 --> 00:42:08,760
and | figured
| might as well start tonight.
748
00:42:08,893 --> 00:42:11,29
Lumet] In a way,
Faye had the most difficult part,
749
00:42:11,162 --> 00:42:14,632
pecause all of her natural warnth
750
00:42:14,766 --> 00:42:17,201
anc alll of her natural emotion
751
00:42:18,36 --> 00:42:21,339
nad to be channeled
into one specitic place
752
00:42:21,472 --> 00:42:23,674
and wasn't allowed
to have any other expression.
753
00:42:23,808 --> 00:42:25,943
DO you wanna figure out
die revenues of a strip show
754
00:42:26,77 --> 00:42:27,712
iat Sells tor 100,000 bucks a minute?
755
00:42:27,879 --> 00:42:30,415
One show like that could pull
this whole network right out of the hole
756
00:42:30,548 --> 00:42:32,950
it's being handed to us on a plate,
757
00:42:33,84 --> 00:42:34,218
Lets not plow ft
758
00:42:34,819 --> 00:42:37,455
[Lumet] But | think
one of the best moments of acting
759
00:42:37,588 --> 00:42:39,323
Kinat Faye has in the movie
760
00:42:40,91 --> 00:42:41,926
is when he's leaving her
761
00:42:42,493 --> 00:42:45,163
and he's got that long,
wondertul speech to her:
762
00:42:45,329 --> 00:42:50,568
And le says, “You're a television baloy.
You think lite was created by Bugs Bunny."
763
00:42:50,701 --> 00:42:53,971
You even shatter the sensations
of time and space
764
00:42:54,105 --> 00:42:58,443
Into split seconds and instant replays,
765
00:42:58,609 --> 00:43:02,547
[Lumet] When | snot a reaction,
inere was 2 look of confusion on ler face,
766
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,248
Youre madness, Diana,
767
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:08,586
Lumet] She cidnt know what tne hell
he was talking about,
768
00:43:09,454 --> 00:43:10,955
lout she knew he was Figini
769
00:43:11,122 --> 00:43:14,258
| think at one point | hac a line there,
is what is in my mind.
770
00:43:14,392 --> 00:43:15,593
It May Or may not loe true,
771
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,531
out | remember starting to say something
and hearing “Cut!” [laughs] I'm thinking:
772
00:43:20,665 --> 00:43:23,401
“Why cid you cut there’?
Why did=? What happened?”
773
00:43:23,568 --> 00:43:26,571
And ne said, “Because you looked at iim
like he was from Mars,
774
00:43:26,704 --> 00:43:28,673
anc that’s all we need.” You know?
775
00:43:28,806 --> 00:43:32,276
And | think for me, It's that moment
when lhe looks at me and says:
776
00:43:32,410 --> 00:43:34,11
| Just wanAt you to love me.”
777
00:43:34,145 --> 00:43:37,515
| Just want you to love me,
orimal doubts and alll.
778
00:43:38,82 --> 00:43:40,952
[Dunaway] Ane! | think that's the moment
iat devined the character,
779
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:46,224
That SAS just doesnt know wnio someone Is
who needs that stu.
780
00:43:47,325 --> 00:43:49,93
| don’t Know ow to clo ting
781
00:43:49,594 --> 00:43:53,631
[Dunaway] And tt was just So poignant
and so painful and so tragic
782
00:43:53,764 --> 00:43:57,201
that there's this person
Wino so Cidnt have that
783
00:43:57,335 --> 00:43:59,03
inet she doesn even Know wiiat It Is:
784
00:43:59,170 --> 00:44:02,907
Lumet] For aye, the proolem
of not being able to play the feelings
785
00:44:03,307 --> 00:44:06,878
tat SAS would normally have
must have been terribly difficult,
786
00:44:07,11 --> 00:44:10,414
Most acwesses would have wanted
to let just a litde tear come
787
00:44:10,548 --> 00:44:12,550
Into the edge of the eye, you Know.
788
00:44:12,683 --> 00:44:14,452
No, sie knew loeitter,
789
00:44:14,585 --> 00:44:16,87
TAS IS HOt a Script, Diana.
790
00:44:17,255 --> 00:44:19,957
Where's some reall, actual litte
going on here.
791
00:44:20,91 --> 00:44:24,95
Lumet] And | noticed that waenever
we did the scene iin rehearsal,
792
00:44:24,228 --> 00:44:27,431
inant Bill Flolden woulc: never look
into her eyes.
793
00:44:27,565 --> 00:44:30,568
ried look here, he'd look aloove,
he'd look there, he'd look...
794
00:44:30,701 --> 00:44:33,337
Ane! OF course, alll of a sucden,
it was quite clear to me why,
795
00:44:33,471 --> 00:44:36,841
which Is that lhe was atiraicl
of what was going on inside of hin
796
00:44:36,974 --> 00:44:39,243
anc Cidnt want it to come out
797
00:44:39,377 --> 00:44:41,946
Ane! SO the day that we shot the scene,
798
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,182
| sald] just one thing to him:
799
00:44:44,315 --> 00:44:51,122
| said, “Bill, WASCA you start thls,
look at ner anc con't loreal tiie look,
800
00:44:51,289 --> 00:44:55,660
JUSt Stay Eye to eye.”
And this world welled up within him.
801
00:44:55,793 --> 00:44:59,263
| mean, it's one of the best pieces
of acting he has in the movie.
802
00:44:59,430 --> 00:45:03,367
| reel lousy aloout the pain
that I've caused my wie and my kids.
803
00:45:03,534 --> 00:45:06,571
| reel Quilty ane cConscience-siricken
and all of those things
804
00:45:06,704 --> 00:45:08,139
Kat you think sentimental
805
00:45:08,272 --> 00:45:12,343
Ou WhIGA my generation callls
simple human decency.
806
00:45:12,843 --> 00:45:16,13
[Lumet] What's the Kind or thing
you can only find out in rehearsal,
807
00:45:16,147 --> 00:45:19,584
because you need tine continual exposure
808
00:45:19,717 --> 00:45:22,86
tO the same thing happening
again and again
809
00:45:22,253 --> 00:45:26,657
to give you an inkling of “An-aln,
there's something interesting here.”
810
00:45:27,124 --> 00:45:29,627
Weill tell you any shit you want to hear.
811
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,195
ere is no Americal
812
00:45:31,329 --> 00:45:33,297
Youre Hot the worst fuck I’ve ever had!
813
00:45:33,464 --> 00:45:37,235
I'm Diana Caristensen, 2 racist lackey
of the imperialist ruling circles.
814
00:45:37,368 --> 00:45:40,04
I'm Laureen loobs, a badass commie nigga.
815
00:45:40,137 --> 00:45:42,306
Sounds like the basis
of a firm friendship.
816
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,09
Lumet] leverythning that happenee
was grist tor Paddy's mill,
817
00:45:45,142 --> 00:45:47,211
and everyining to him was funny.
818
00:45:47,345 --> 00:45:50,381
Not necessarily “na-a.-
rile was a very wise man.
819
00:45:50,548 --> 00:45:54,85
Fie knows that a lot
of what we live through is temporary.
820
00:45:54,585 --> 00:45:57,321
‘Iheretore, lhe teels quite tree
to make fun of it
821
00:45:57,455 --> 00:45:59,657
(Laureen] I'm gonna make
a TV star out of you.
822
00:46:00,258 --> 00:46:03,628
Just like Arce Bunker,
823
00:46:03,794 --> 00:46:08,532
Lumet] Ihe whole revolutionary movement
was just grist tor his mill.
824
00:46:08,666 --> 00:46:10,568
What the fuck are you talking albout’?
825
00:46:10,968 --> 00:46:13,37
riave we settled that sublicensing thing?
826
00:46:13,204 --> 00:46:19,110
[Gottiried|] With all the posing ance with
alll the so-called concern for truth,
827
00:46:19,277 --> 00:46:22,179
the one thing
iat these people were interested in,
828
00:46:22,313 --> 00:46:24,415
just like anyone else, Was the proritt.
829
00:46:24,582 --> 00:46:26,917
ihe Communist Party's not gonna see
a nickel out of this goddamn show
830
00:46:27,51 --> 00:46:28,586
until we Go Into syndication.
831
00:46:28,753 --> 00:46:32,89
(Gottiriec|] No matter wnat
your politics were and how they moved you,
832
00:46:32,223 --> 00:46:35,359
kt was we ultimate buck
that everybody was interested in,
833
00:46:35,526 --> 00:46:38,996
SO Stop the double-talk and the bullshit
and let's get down to it.
834
00:46:39,497 --> 00:46:42,166
I'm not knocking down
my goddamn distriloution charges.
835
00:46:43,801 --> 00:46:47,638
Man, give ler tine tucking overnead clause.
836
00:46:48,72 --> 00:46:50,474
Lumet] "ll tell you,
| miss Paddy Chayetsky every day,
837
00:46:50,608 --> 00:46:54,412
pecause is take on te roliculousness|
838
00:46:55,246 --> 00:46:57,415
Of some of the things
that we live through Is...
839
00:46:57,548 --> 00:47:01,952
I've never known anyone
to have any sense of that
840
00:47:02,86 --> 00:47:03,721
Ko the degree that Pacily did.
841
00:47:03,854 --> 00:47:07,291
What was So much Tun was,
| got the feeling from Sidney
842
00:47:07,425 --> 00:47:09,593
drat | couldn't go over tine top,
843
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,998
Now, when | watch it, | teel like
| was way over the top, way over the top.
844
00:47:14,131 --> 00:47:16,167
| mean, he said, “Are you a Presbyterian?”
845
00:47:16,300 --> 00:47:18,169
| said, “No, | grew up
in a different church,
846
00:47:18,302 --> 00:47:20,71
lout | used to go
to a Presbyterian church."
847
00:47:20,237 --> 00:47:22,573
And Ae said,
"Do you remember the preacher there?”
848
00:47:22,707 --> 00:47:25,443
| said, “Derinitely. It was a triend!
[| used to sing in a choir.”
849
00:47:25,576 --> 00:47:27,511
rie said, “What kind of preacner
was this guy?”
850
00:47:27,645 --> 00:47:29,613
| said, “lt was Interesting.
He was a sweet man,
851
00:47:29,780 --> 00:47:33,50
our WheN AS Got Going, man, it was like,
ohwoo, you know... [mumbles quickly]
852
00:47:33,184 --> 00:47:35,753
nile was like this.
And he wore, you know, a robe
853
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,590
And ne would try to stay at the, you know,
at the lectern, ut lhe couldn't.
854
00:47:39,757 --> 00:47:43,327
ried walk and he'd move, and, you know...
And he said, “It was very theatrical?"
855
00:47:43,461 --> 00:47:45,196
| said, “Yealn, Ae was pretty theatrical.”
856
00:47:45,329 --> 00:47:47,832
rie said, “Okay, that's the guy
l want you to do.” flaughing]
857
00:47:47,965 --> 00:47:49,266
‘SO | said, “Okay.”
858
00:47:50,201 --> 00:47:55,639
And wien he came into that room on Monday
and saw ne’s at this end of the room
859
00:47:55,773 --> 00:48:00,77
anc lrlowara |Beale’s at that,
they re 35 feet apart,
860
00:48:00,211 --> 00:48:05,282
and Ine became aware of how tar
| wanted to go in performance,
861
00:48:05,416 --> 00:48:07,752
mine tension for him was enormous,
862
00:48:07,918 --> 00:48:12,390
And | said! to Alm,
| remember saying to him, “Ned, use it.
863
00:48:12,523 --> 00:48:14,425
Your whole litte depends on this man.
864
00:48:14,558 --> 00:48:15,926
Now get througii to him."
865
00:48:16,93 --> 00:48:21,31
You have medalled with the primal torces
of nature, Mr. Beale,
866
00:48:21,165 --> 00:48:23,67
ano | wont pave fi
867
00:48:23,567 --> 00:48:25,736
[Lumet] And wien | printed the first take,
868
00:48:25,870 --> 00:48:27,738
ne knew that hed gotten i!
869
00:48:27,872 --> 00:48:31,75
Ile worid is a lousiness, Mr. Beale,
870
00:48:32,109 --> 00:48:34,578
[Beatty] Peter Finch was
alosolutely wonderiul off-camera.
871
00:48:34,712 --> 00:48:36,547
rie was always there, always looking at me.
872
00:48:36,714 --> 00:48:39,717
IEVery Ones In a while, | would co
something really weird, and he'd go...
873
00:48:40,918 --> 00:48:42,253
KS tals Or SometHING.
874
00:48:42,753 --> 00:48:46,590
SO at the end, | got to do his ot-camera,
and he’s sitting there listening to me,
875
00:48:46,724 --> 00:48:48,926
and at ONS POINit,
| jumped up on the table.
876
00:48:49,59 --> 00:48:50,828
| could have loeen arrested
at that moment,
877
00:48:50,961 --> 00:48:53,497
DSCAUSS that Was ithe reall table
that goes in that real room,
878
00:48:53,664 --> 00:48:57,168
whicn is where the Rocketellers
and all the people sat who were people
879
00:48:57,301 --> 00:48:58,903
in the New Yorlk Pulolic Library system,
880
00:48:59,36 --> 00:49:02,706
And | got up there and | started
l was doing the speech,
881
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,875
and | was acwally coing
the gorilla thing.
882
00:49:05,42 --> 00:49:08,913
| was loeating on my Gnest like this
and trying to get him to laugh, you know?
883
00:49:09,46 --> 00:49:12,116
But he wouldn't laug|h.
rie just went... like that.
884
00:49:12,750 --> 00:49:14,418
[Jensen] Good moming, Mr. Beale:
885
00:49:14,552 --> 00:49:17,421
-I hey tell me youre a macman.
-Only desultorily.
886
00:49:17,588 --> 00:49:21,225
[Beatty] | met tewer or the principals
than anybody else.
887
00:49:21,392 --> 00:49:24,995
Robert Duvall, | Got to spend a Ite fort
of time with, but | was really=
888
00:49:25,162 --> 00:49:28,766
l was a day player. You know, | was a=
That was a one-day shot there
889
00:49:28,899 --> 00:49:31,969
| actually got two days’ WOFK Out OF It,
lout wet was luGK.
890
00:49:32,102 --> 00:49:35,39
It Was 2 ONG-day Part, WAIGH |
891
00:49:35,206 --> 00:49:38,375
ror a long ime,
| used to dine out on reminding people:
892
00:49:38,509 --> 00:49:41,445
Never turn down a daly joo, you know.
You never know.
893
00:49:41,579 --> 00:49:44,582
So, what do we do
aloourt this Beale son of a loittch?
894
00:49:45,416 --> 00:49:47,84
Suppose we'll have to kill him.
895
00:49:48,118 --> 00:49:51,88
(Gottiriec!] Paddy always telt
tniat at the end of the movie,
896
00:49:51,222 --> 00:49:54,124
we would kill oii
ine Howard Beale character.
897
00:49:54,625 --> 00:49:57,361
Ane so they sat down
in that scene, incidentally,
898
00:49:57,495 --> 00:50:01,365
waticn | think is one of thre lorilliant
scenes that Paddy came up with,
899
00:50:01,499 --> 00:50:04,335
ane they had a business discussion,
900
00:50:04,969 --> 00:50:07,671
Killing him became a business decision.
901
00:50:07,838 --> 00:50:10,708
And it is the AR department's
carefully considered judgment and mine
902
00:50:10,841 --> 00:50:13,244
that ir we get rid or Beale,
Wwe shoulc be glole to maintain
903
00:50:13,377 --> 00:50:15,846
a very respecialole share
in the high 20s, possibly 30.
904
00:50:16,413 --> 00:50:20,251
The final scene was just my tav=
One of my favorite scenes in the world.
905
00:50:20,384 --> 00:50:23,53
BECAUSS Ow CaN you not wanna play
a scene like that
906
00:50:23,187 --> 00:50:26,290
where people tallk alooutt,
you know, an assassination
907
00:50:26,423 --> 00:50:28,826
as if it's going out shopping?
908
00:50:28,959 --> 00:50:31,862
[Flackett] Well, tine issue Is,
shall we kill Howarc Beale or not’?
909
00:50:31,996 --> 00:50:34,265
I'd like to hear
some more opinions on that.
910
00:50:34,431 --> 00:50:38,736
here was a certain kine of mind belhind tg
that was so much fun to get involved with.
911
00:50:38,869 --> 00:50:42,406
| dont see we have any option, Irrank.
Let's kill the son of 2 fitch.
912
00:50:42,573 --> 00:50:45,776
[narrator] it was a perrectly admissible
argument that hloward Beale advanced)
913
00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:47,77
In tne Gays that rollowed.
914
00:50:47,211 --> 00:50:49,880
lt WAS, NOWEVEF,
also a very depressing one.
915
00:50:50,447 --> 00:50:53,717
Noboaly particularly cared
to hear his life was utterly valueless.
916
00:50:53,884 --> 00:50:57,922
[Lumet] Ihe Lee Richardson narration
is 2 great part of the style of the piece.
917
00:50:58,88 --> 00:51:01,458
And what it closes,
what that narration does, is two things.
918
00:51:01,592 --> 00:51:04,995
First of all,
it Pulls it out of “real” reall!
919
00:51:05,763 --> 00:51:08,432
YOU are In a Movie
as soon as that happens,
920
00:51:08,566 --> 00:51:11,335
it Gives you permission to laugh:
921
00:51:11,969 --> 00:51:16,540
Because Paddy's gonna get
into some very dicey areas,
922
00:51:16,674 --> 00:51:20,945
and It's important tor an audience
to know that it's okay to laugh,
923
00:51:21,912 --> 00:51:24,415
including wnen a guy
is having an apoplectic fit,
924
00:51:24,548 --> 00:51:27,51
as lioward Beale keeps having.
925
00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:32,56
luploeat news theme playing]
926
00:51:32,222 --> 00:51:35,159
[Fleiml | like the idea of the narration
very much, apart from the fact
927
00:51:35,292 --> 00:51:38,629
diat In a tilm with ho transitions,
it helped a great deal.
928
00:51:38,762 --> 00:51:42,32
| mean, tine film has no dissolves.
it's all straight cuts.
929
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,236
Everything in the film is straight cut,
so that gives you an energy immediately
930
00:51:46,370 --> 00:51:47,571
Wwihicn Keeps YOU MOVING.
931
00:51:47,705 --> 00:51:50,240
And that was tne idea,
just keeping that film moving.
932
00:51:51,442 --> 00:51:52,843
Newyork News ancnornman..J
933
00:51:52,977 --> 00:51:56,747
Lumet] And the person wAao put
thie last sequence together for me,
934
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,284
ner name was Lynn Klugman,
anc she acted in te movie.
935
00:52:00,417 --> 00:52:02,319
She played the seriot oirl
936
00:52:02,486 --> 00:52:05,255
Flowared just said he was
going to blow his brains out next Tuesday.
937
00:52:05,389 --> 00:52:07,992
Lumet] She worked in television.
She was 2 script girl,
938
00:52:08,125 --> 00:52:10,861
and then also, she was 2 ite designer.
939
00:52:10,995 --> 00:52:13,497
So she showed me
what she wanted to work with,
940
00:52:13,631 --> 00:52:15,466
and tien she put theni up On monitors!
941
00:52:15,966 --> 00:52:17,901
ISA we just pnotographec
the four monitors.
942
00:52:18,35 --> 00:52:20,871
,--S0t to death tonight in a rusillade
of automatic mile fire.
943
00:52:21,05 --> 00:52:23,741
Lumet] And the last narration
is the bracket
944
00:52:23,907 --> 00:52:28,112
tO PUt the whole thing back Into the place
that Paddy wanted that piece,
945
00:52:28,245 --> 00:52:31,448
Wwihicn Is this sarconic laughter.
946
00:52:31,915 --> 00:52:34,251
[narrator] Ils Was ine story
of Floward Beale,
947
00:52:34,418 --> 00:52:38,589
ine first Known instance of a man who
was killed because he had lousy ratings:
948
00:52:38,722 --> 00:52:39,890
loveriapping cnater on IVs)
949
00:52:40,57 --> 00:52:42,359
[Lumet] But the television communtty
kept saying
950
00:52:42,493 --> 00:52:45,496
that we lott the hana
that was feeding us, [chuckles]
951
00:52:45,663 --> 00:52:48,298
made Paddy and | laugh even more
952
00:52:48,465 --> 00:52:52,503
OSCAUSS WE Galve them Many Good years
and a lot of good work,
953
00:52:52,636 --> 00:52:54,838
and the whole icea Is So Silly.
954
00:52:54,972 --> 00:52:58,742
| mean, loyalty to wnat?
To an advertising agency?
955
00:52:58,876 --> 00:53:01,912
A network executive
who isn't even there the next year?
956
00:53:02,46 --> 00:53:05,549
You know, thie revolving coor
that television lire is.
957
00:53:05,683 --> 00:53:08,285
SO that dic] come up 2 lot.
958
00:53:08,886 --> 00:53:12,790
But | con't think it aiirected
either of us very much.
959
00:53:13,323 --> 00:53:15,492
Ihe response Is sensational:
Hero, tell him.
960
00:53:15,626 --> 00:53:18,862
Son of a bitch, we struck the mother lode!
961
00:53:18,996 --> 00:53:20,864
I'm gonna make 2 lot of noise aloout this:
962
00:53:20,998 --> 00:53:23,834
[Gottiried|] | don't think the success
of the movie, quite honestly,
963
00:53:23,967 --> 00:53:25,669
Was a SUFprISe to any Of us.
964
00:53:26,70 --> 00:53:29,907
From the moment that we started
to preview it to audiences,
965
00:53:30,40 --> 00:53:31,575
Kinney responced very well.
966
00:53:31,742 --> 00:53:36,747
And when we tinallly opened tthe movie,
die critics were very, very complimentary.
967
00:53:36,914 --> 00:53:39,583
Most of them were.
You always get some who arent, obviously.
968
00:53:40,84 --> 00:53:42,319
But fits Hot your typical movie
969
00:53:42,453 --> 00:53:46,123
from thie point of view
of a commercial motion picture.
970
00:53:46,256 --> 00:53:47,791
BU I Clic] welll:
971
00:53:47,925 --> 00:53:49,760
it didnt do extraordinarily well
972
00:53:49,893 --> 00:53:51,462
irom the point of view of box Office,
973
00:53:51,628 --> 00:53:56,266
our it mace alll tts money back and made
orotits tor the company and all of that.
974
00:53:56,433 --> 00:54:01,138
But we also received ten nominations
by the Academy for Oscars.
975
00:54:01,305 --> 00:54:06,09
Almost everyoody who had any important
participation in the movie was nominated.
976
00:54:06,510 --> 00:54:08,112
And we received tour Oscars,
977
00:54:08,278 --> 00:54:12,182
But | was crushed that we didnt win
the Academy Award for the movie.
978
00:54:12,850 --> 00:54:14,485
Quite candidly, | was.
979
00:54:14,618 --> 00:54:16,587
[Dunaway] You know,
I'd been nominated twice,
980
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:19,223
and usually you have to le nominated
a few times
981
00:54:19,356 --> 00:54:22,760
betrore the Academy reallly
seriously considers giving it to you:
982
00:54:22,893 --> 00:54:25,996
‘SO when my name was announced, I...
983
00:54:26,597 --> 00:54:29,933
It was reallly...
That's a very intense thing.
984
00:54:30,67 --> 00:54:31,568
Less now as I'm older, you Know,
985
00:54:31,702 --> 00:54:36,840
OU IS JUSt, tO Me, k was, anyway,
very, very emotionally powerful.
986
00:54:37,07 --> 00:54:40,744
| mean, | wasnt sure || could wailk
up there, but of course, you do, but...
987
00:54:42,346 --> 00:54:43,914
TAS nerves run very lhigin
988
00:54:44,414 --> 00:54:49,887
Lumet] And so we had the nominations,
but the voting hadn't taken place yet,
989
00:54:50,20 --> 00:54:52,556
and we had gone out to Calittornia,
990
00:54:52,723 --> 00:54:55,425
| went out there, Peter went out there,
and Paddy went out there,
991
00:54:55,559 --> 00:54:57,94
and we were hAuswing, you KNOW.
992
00:54:57,227 --> 00:54:58,762
We were doing radio shows
993
00:54:58,929 --> 00:55:04,01
and newspaper interviews and so on
as part of the Academy campaign.
994
00:55:04,168 --> 00:55:07,404
A\nd | was Going to go to a raclo station
with Peter that morming.
995
00:55:07,538 --> 00:55:10,307
And | came down the steps
of the Beverly Hills Hotel.
996
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,378
rie was seated on a round seating area,
997
00:55:14,545 --> 00:55:19,249
and as | came cown onto tie main tiloor,
Ae just tell off...
998
00:55:21,251 --> 00:55:22,119
onto tie Tloor:
999
00:55:22,252 --> 00:55:25,656
And | rushed over to him
and took him in my arms,
1000
00:55:25,823 --> 00:55:30,928
and | knew something was reallly up
pecause fie was not good about falling.
1001
00:55:31,61 --> 00:55:33,530
| mean, Ic create alll kinds
Of safeties for Aim
1002
00:55:33,664 --> 00:55:37,67
winenever he would have |his apoplectic tit,
1003
00:55:37,234 --> 00:55:41,471
But this one was so gracerul,
| knew that something very serious was up.
1004
00:55:41,605 --> 00:55:45,375
But= And that was the first time
| knew that he'd hac 2 load heart
1005
00:55:45,909 --> 00:55:47,177
was 4 lneart attack)
1006
00:55:54,818 --> 00:55:59,89
I'm as mad as hell,
and I'm not gonna take this anymore!
1007
00:55:59,223 --> 00:56:02,259
-Are they yelling in Atanta’?
-Are they yelling in Atlanta, Ted?
1008
00:56:02,759 --> 00:56:06,763
(Gottiriec|] Network was clone
aloout 28 years ago, and to this very day,
1009
00:56:06,930 --> 00:56:12,202
people, in writing ednorials
in newspapers, will quote from Network
1010
00:56:12,369 --> 00:56:17,40
and discuss What's Going on today
in connection with what Network had to say
1011
00:56:17,174 --> 00:56:20,10
aloout tie world and wnat was happening.
1012
00:56:20,177 --> 00:56:23,881
Ane! to have that happen,
| mean, it's just almost unbelievable.
1013
00:56:24,47 --> 00:56:27,417
| mean, this isnt Shakespeare, you know’?
And it doesn't pretend to be.
1014
00:56:27,584 --> 00:56:33,56
BU tne VISION that the movie displayed
so eloquently is alive today.
1015
00:56:33,457 --> 00:56:36,93
Dunaway] It's Interesting that you say
it's less funny now
1016
00:56:36,226 --> 00:56:38,362
Dpecause We've been there
and done that. [chuckles]
1017
00:56:38,528 --> 00:56:42,633
You know, the reason it was so Tunny
was because it was So outrageous as well,
1018
00:56:42,766 --> 00:56:45,502
and you're thinking, “Come on,
no one's ever gonna kill somebody
1019
00:56:45,636 --> 00:56:47,70
on television, are they?"
1020
00:56:47,204 --> 00:56:50,707
Ane now we sort of think,
"Veal, we think so."
1021
00:56:50,841 --> 00:56:53,76
What would you tellas saly
tO an assassination?
1022
00:56:55,545 --> 00:56:59,416
| think | can get the Mao Ise-lung people
LON BSACROMUS
1023
00:56:59,549 --> 00:57:00,651
Aas one of their shows.
1024
00:57:00,784 --> 00:57:04,154
The tilms of tthe “70s,
you know, people do say,
1025
00:57:04,721 --> 00:57:07,824
nad a kind Of Sense of story
and originality
1026
00:57:08,692 --> 00:57:11,328
Ktiat certainly isnt true
in Studio films now.
1027
00:57:11,495 --> 00:57:15,699
You know, it's all romantic comedies
or, you know, hardware movies.
1028
00:57:15,866 --> 00:57:21,204
‘SO | think the uniqueness of the vision
of the piece was really quite special,
1029
00:57:21,371 --> 00:57:24,574
and | don't know that
they're making them like that anymore.
1030
00:57:25,75 --> 00:57:26,743
| was lucky to be a part or It
1031
00:57:27,411 --> 00:57:31,548
Lumet] | dont know where you could go
with it if you began trying to do a story
1032
00:57:31,682 --> 00:57:34,718
aloout television today,
lDecause its become its own satire.
1033
00:57:34,985 --> 00:57:41,124
Its SO rire with tear anc urgency
1034
00:57:41,258 --> 00:57:46,129
and imporance and unimportance.
1035
00:57:48,298 --> 00:57:53,403
TAS tact that the ratings are sometimes
on the front page of The New York Times,
1036
00:57:53,537 --> 00:57:55,672
die Tact that actors Go on strike
1037
00:57:55,806 --> 00:57:58,141
DoecaUuse they can't get
a million dollars 2 show,
1038
00:57:58,275 --> 00:58:00,377
| mean,
Now are you going to sattirize that?
1039
00:58:00,877 --> 00:58:03,914
You know’? lrlow are you going to even
make 2 comment aloour it?
1040
00:58:04,47 --> 00:58:05,916
Its Got tts Own buUIt-In comment.
1041
00:58:17,627 --> 00:58:19,830
Lumet] Because Paddy Chayersky
was just, | think,
1042
00:58:19,963 --> 00:58:22,466
one of the magnificent American writers,
1043
00:58:22,632 --> 00:58:26,503
everyining he touched went way beyond
thie specitic of what he was writing aloout,
1044
00:58:27,70 --> 00:58:29,172
And thats true or Network!
1045
00:58:29,306 --> 00:58:34,77
i's aloout television, lout it's aloout,
really, in a much broader sense,
1046
00:58:34,678 --> 00:58:39,349
aloout tthe Inaloility or people
to keep faith with themselves, reallly.
1047
00:58:39,950 --> 00:58:45,322
Everyone, ONS way Or anotnier,
gets corrupted over the body of the movie,
1048
00:58:45,489 --> 00:58:50,160
And it Was Interesting
now that atfiected the visual side of it,
1049
00:58:50,293 --> 00:58:52,863
loecause | remember talking
to Owen Roizman,
1050
00:58:52,996 --> 00:58:54,464
winO Shot it, and || said:
1051
00:58:54,598 --> 00:58:57,834
“Owen, watt I'd like to do
is corrupt the camera.”
1052
00:59:01,371 --> 00:59:04,741
-(Car engines rumioling]
-[homs honking]
1053
00:59:04,875 --> 00:59:07,411
Lumet] We start very pure, very simple.
1054
00:59:07,577 --> 00:59:12,182
Not mucn light, not mucn aritiricial light,
Just try to use what's there.
1055
00:59:12,315 --> 00:59:13,917
im gonna kill myself.
1056
00:59:14,484 --> 00:59:18,922
Lumet] And then by ithe last scene,
| want iit to look like a Ford commercial.
1057
00:59:19,56 --> 00:59:22,426
Ane Owen Roizman Understood
exactly what | meant
1058
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:26,430
and siaried that whole transition
into the corrupted camera
1059
00:59:26,997 --> 00:59:31,902
Into that first scene
between Faye Dunaway and Bill Flolden,
1060
00:59:32,35 --> 00:59:33,970
into his office late at night;
1061
00:59:34,104 --> 00:59:37,74
ain alll of a sudden,
tt Stars to take on 4 new look:
1062
00:59:37,207 --> 00:59:40,77
And tnat keeps getting more
and more extreme as it goes On.
1063
00:59:40,610 --> 00:59:42,579
[man 1 on screen] It was heavy, baby.
1064
00:59:42,712 --> 00:59:45,615
Lumet] And then one of the rules
that Chaplin had created, reallly,
1065
00:59:45,749 --> 00:59:46,750
was tinat with comedy,
1066
00:59:46,917 --> 00:59:51,88
you should lay ofr camera movement,
that it had a tendency to hurt laughter.
1067
00:59:51,488 --> 00:59:53,256
| con't Know whether it was true or not,
1068
00:59:53,390 --> 00:59:55,525
lout generally, | moved mucn less
than | usually do.
1069
00:59:55,692 --> 00:59:58,261
(Diana Dann tt, if we wanted helliire,
we'd get Billy Graham.
1070
00:59:58,395 --> 01:00:00,464
We dont want tain healers,
tent-show evangelists
1071
01:00:00,597 --> 01:00:01,932
or Oberammergau Passion Players.
1072
01:00:02,65 --> 01:00:03,600
What alioout that terriric new messiali
1073
01:00:03,767 --> 01:00:06,570
ABC WAS SUPPOSE to have signed Up
as our competition for next year?
1074
01:00:07,237 --> 01:00:10,173
-[man 2] That's lAim.
-lhe bottomless pit is here.
1075
01:00:10,674 --> 01:00:11,641
[Diana] That's hin?
1076
01:00:12,442 --> 01:00:16,346
([Roizman] Paddy, the way he wrote
nis scripts, he wrote them very visually.
1077
01:00:16,513 --> 01:00:20,550
Fié would cesecriloe how sheatts of light
would le coming in through a window,
1078
01:00:20,717 --> 01:00:23,553
and i would be a smoke-tillec room,
or it would be very dark.
1079
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,424
rie gave every description
you could ever want in reading a script,
1080
01:00:27,591 --> 01:00:31,595
as far as wondering what Is thie look
of this story gonna be about.
1081
01:00:31,761 --> 01:00:35,932
And! loesicdes looking tor story content,
one of the things | look for is visuals,
1082
01:00:36,66 --> 01:00:39,469
of his description visually
1083
01:00:39,603 --> 01:00:41,371
or Gach Scene, Set and everything!
1084
01:00:41,505 --> 01:00:45,742
SO It took @ lot of mystery Out of it
for me, and that appealed to me
1085
01:00:45,876 --> 01:00:47,210
DSSIdes the Story content
1086
01:00:47,377 --> 01:00:51,114
because | thought kt was coming
from a guy that was being very ballsy
1087
01:00:51,248 --> 01:00:54,117
and Making statements
that nobody had ever heard before.
1088
01:00:54,251 --> 01:00:56,486
A\nd | loved! the fact
that he was speaking his mind,
1089
01:00:56,620 --> 01:00:58,788
and | just wanted to be a part or ithat.
1090
01:00:58,955 --> 01:01:02,959
[Rosenberg] Both Sidney and Pacey
were experts on the television world.
1091
01:01:03,126 --> 01:01:05,762
They had come trom tine television world
more so than I.
1092
01:01:05,896 --> 01:01:08,365
| had to be educated
during the course of the film.
1093
01:01:09,499 --> 01:01:13,737
Luckily, Sicihey arranged
ror Walter Cronkite to take me around
1094
01:01:13,904 --> 01:01:19,910
for a tour of CBS news facilities,
and | began to educate myself about it.
1095
01:01:20,377 --> 01:01:23,880
Lumet] We literally had so many sets
in the movie,
1096
01:01:24,47 --> 01:01:27,918
there wasn't a stuclo in New York
that could have taken care of that movie.
1097
01:01:28,84 --> 01:01:32,489
TAS only possilole one would have been out
in Astoria, and | think that was occupied.
1098
01:01:32,622 --> 01:01:34,324
So it was almost no choice:
1099
01:01:34,491 --> 01:01:39,262
And we got = lriad the great good luck
that MGM had this wonderiul building
1100
01:01:39,396 --> 01:01:44,534
at 1350 Avenue of the Americas
with three empty floors.
1101
01:01:44,668 --> 01:01:47,704
SO it was like having a studio
AllEKOROURSEIMESS
1102
01:01:47,837 --> 01:01:51,374
| was given an entire empty rloor
at the MGM building.
1103
01:01:52,42 --> 01:01:55,212
And then, taking Various priorities,
1104
01:01:55,345 --> 01:01:59,583
such as trying to tind a great view
clown Sixta Avenue for Hackett's office
1105
01:01:59,716 --> 01:02:03,587
and geting a geography that made sense
1106
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,124
so that you had a teeling of seeing
trough coors and through spaces
1107
01:02:08,258 --> 01:02:10,927
tO See the entire scale of the network!
1108
01:02:11,428 --> 01:02:14,30
([Roizman] | was now strapped
with working in a place
1109
01:02:14,164 --> 01:02:17,33
where | had to create this light
1110
01:02:17,167 --> 01:02:19,302
ano male it loox like it was reall
1111
01:02:19,436 --> 01:02:21,905
In a place where | had
very litte control over.
1112
01:02:22,72 --> 01:02:26,543
‘SO | was constantly putting ditrerent gels
on the windows and things like that
1113
01:02:26,676 --> 01:02:29,579
and changing them
from mayoe one shot to the next,
1114
01:02:29,713 --> 01:02:31,881
trying to maken trom one scene
tO tae next
1115
01:02:32,15 --> 01:02:33,583
DeCAaUSS OF the light changing outside,
1116
01:02:33,717 --> 01:02:36,419
It mighit be sunny one minute,
might be overcast another minute,
1117
01:02:36,586 --> 01:02:40,890
And it was a very difficult situation,
lout we had to do it and do it quickly,
1118
01:02:41,24 --> 01:02:44,861
SO in that sense,
that was a huge challenge there,
1119
01:02:44,995 --> 01:02:45,829
a huge cnallenge.
1120
01:02:45,996 --> 01:02:49,933
At night, we had to balance the light
against the existing windows
1121
01:02:50,66 --> 01:02:51,468
irom buildings across the street!
1122
01:02:51,635 --> 01:02:54,904
We cidnt have backings and things
like that that you would use on a stage.
1123
01:02:55,38 --> 01:02:56,906
TAoOse were alll reall backgrounds
1124
01:02:57,40 --> 01:03:00,710
| had! to keep ithe light so low-key
inside te Offices
1125
01:03:00,877 --> 01:03:05,115
SO that you could see ithe light outside,
you could see the windows outside.
1126
01:03:05,282 --> 01:03:10,287
And we were Working wit litte tiny
25-wait mushroom bullos, we call them,
1127
01:03:10,453 --> 01:03:13,590
and we were Making Up Ide GIMMICKS
to put them in
1128
01:03:13,723 --> 01:03:15,392
and tae them loehind the desks
1129
01:03:15,558 --> 01:03:18,995
and on the ceilings and things like that
to get little key lights
1130
01:03:19,129 --> 01:03:23,600
and sources of light,
and still keeping them so far down
1131
01:03:23,733 --> 01:03:25,702
and working wicle open with tie lenses
1132
01:03:25,835 --> 01:03:28,538
so that we could have some detail
outside the windows,
1133
01:03:28,672 --> 01:03:31,308
out a feeling of the background.
1134
01:03:31,441 --> 01:03:34,444
Because It | had worked lorighter
and then stopped the lens down,
1135
01:03:34,577 --> 01:03:36,613
we would have had! pure lolack
outsicle the windows.
1136
01:03:36,746 --> 01:03:39,416
The way | hear it, Mex«,
you were primarily responsible
1137
01:03:39,549 --> 01:03:41,251
ror this colossally stupid prank:
1138
01:03:42,52 --> 01:03:45,88
-jannouncer] The UBS Evening News.
1139
01:03:46,423 --> 01:03:47,624
Wii Flowarg Beale!
1140
01:03:48,158 --> 01:03:51,261
[Rosenberg] We were sul
witout 2 control room and 2 studio;
1141
01:03:51,428 --> 01:03:53,863
| thought it migiht be a piece or cake
because we could go in
1142
01:03:53,997 --> 01:03:56,433
and get any of the network studios
anc control rooms,
1143
01:03:56,566 --> 01:03:57,901
and | thougiit tt would los easy.
1144
01:03:58,34 --> 01:04:00,904
And as | went
into the location-finding of i,
1145
01:04:01,71 --> 01:04:05,75
| round that we got Zero cooperation
from the networks, understandably.
1146
01:04:05,542 --> 01:04:09,512
[Lumet] Nobody could knock oft
their TV schedule for a long enough period
1147
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:11,614
KO GIVE US the time we needed.
1148
01:04:12,182 --> 01:04:15,285
And fortunately,
we found this place outside of Toronto
1149
01:04:15,452 --> 01:04:19,622
whicn just rented television facilities,
and it was alosolutely periect.
1150
01:04:19,756 --> 01:04:21,424
it had everything we needed.
1151
01:04:21,558 --> 01:04:22,692
And so we went up there!
1152
01:04:22,826 --> 01:04:25,195
| think we were there
for a week or ten days.
1153
01:04:25,762 --> 01:04:28,531
Because tnere was 4 lot talking place
in the studios.
1154
01:04:28,665 --> 01:04:33,903
| think the determining tactor was
niniat we were alae to snoot tie set
1155
01:04:34,37 --> 01:04:39,376
and Nave activity going on live
ia. the contro] room at the same time.
1156
01:04:39,509 --> 01:04:43,546
[Lumet] What we did was, In order
to get a genuine television feeling,
1157
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,415
was We put on 2 television show
1158
01:04:46,15 --> 01:04:50,754
and then photographed
the television show being cone live.
1159
01:04:50,887 --> 01:04:55,158
[Fioward] This tule ts the gospel,
ihe ultimate revelation.
1160
01:04:55,325 --> 01:04:59,763
Als tuloe can malke or lorealkk presidents,
popes, Prime ministers...
1161
01:04:59,929 --> 01:05:02,866
[Rosenberg] In the seript,
Paddy had called tor Howard to be in front
1162
01:05:02,999 --> 01:05:06,469
of a Gothic stained glass window,
a church window.
1163
01:05:06,603 --> 01:05:10,06
And | knew that image
was important to him,
1164
01:05:10,140 --> 01:05:13,09
lout || couldln't figure out a way
to make that image work
1165
01:05:13,143 --> 01:05:15,578
wit the other clemenis or the show,
1166
01:05:15,712 --> 01:05:18,415
SO that’s when | got the idea
of taking the stained glass window
1167
01:05:18,548 --> 01:05:22,619
and tuming It Into a rosette
and creating the turntables,
1168
01:05:22,786 --> 01:05:26,589
wihicn originally were going to loe clriven
mechanically by winches,
1169
01:05:26,756 --> 01:05:31,594
lout Sidney had a great idea or actually
having the stagehands pushing them
1170
01:05:31,728 --> 01:05:33,963
and made it have
a much more sense of reality
1171
01:05:34,97 --> 01:05:35,698
because you cid see the audience,
1172
01:05:35,832 --> 01:05:38,468
and he wanted to see
as much backstage action
1173
01:05:38,601 --> 01:05:41,838
of the television world being snot
as |e COUIIC.
1174
01:05:42,338 --> 01:05:44,908
[Lumet] And | think
nS One of the reasons
1175
01:05:45,41 --> 01:05:47,277
tnat it has Such a Teel or reality
1176
01:05:47,410 --> 01:05:49,345
i terms or tie television work on it.
1177
01:05:49,512 --> 01:05:53,917
| mean, wien Fioward Beale comes out
on his famous “mad as hell” speech
1178
01:05:54,617 --> 01:05:56,886
and walks out and people are ducking
out of the way,
1179
01:05:57,587 --> 01:06:01,324
Kinat tiny lite ridiculous set Is exactly
what the news sets looked like
1180
01:06:01,458 --> 01:06:02,525
In those days.
1181
01:06:02,659 --> 01:06:06,763
| rarely go to the set.
Most editors don't go to sets,
1182
01:06:08,264 --> 01:06:09,466
You dont. J
1183
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:11,67
Walter Murch goes as tar as to say
1184
01:06:11,201 --> 01:06:13,903
he never wants
(ORSCCHAMACHOMOUMOREOSIUINE?
1185
01:06:14,37 --> 01:06:18,241
But | rememioer | cid go
to the set up there,
1186
01:06:19,943 --> 01:06:21,377
DeCaUSse We didn't have film yet,
1187
01:06:21,511 --> 01:06:24,214
and | was just hanging arounc
and watching the shooting.
1188
01:06:24,714 --> 01:06:26,749
And | rememioer talking
to One of the engineers,
1189
01:06:26,916 --> 01:06:29,819
at how Sidney directed the live cameras,
1190
01:06:29,986 --> 01:06:34,157
and Sidney seemed as happy as I'd ever
seen him just doing live television again.
1191
01:06:35,158 --> 01:06:37,427
So we shot that as live television tinen,
1192
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,430
It WaS prety amazing because
4 lot of the actors were nonactors.
1193
01:06:40,563 --> 01:06:42,599
They were people's assistants and tings.
1194
01:06:42,732 --> 01:06:45,568
Many of the technicians,
many of the people at the console
1195
01:06:46,69 --> 01:06:49,639
were reall people,
and their performances were pretty good.
1196
01:06:49,806 --> 01:06:53,343
| had asked Sidney aloout it at the time.
| said, “You know what would lbe nice here?
1197
01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:58,948
What iv we put a star tiker on the camera!
so that looking towards the audience,
1198
01:06:59,82 --> 01:07:00,583
nes like surreal?”
1199
01:07:00,717 --> 01:07:03,419
| hated those kind of things,
1200
01:07:03,586 --> 01:07:06,890
lout In this case, | thought mayloe
it would just take it over the top enough.
1201
01:07:07,23 --> 01:07:09,859
And Sidney liked the idea.
Hie said, "Go ahead, go for it
1202
01:07:09,993 --> 01:07:11,594
Why not?” So we clic that.
1203
01:07:11,728 --> 01:07:13,463
laudience cheering and whistling]
1204
01:07:14,264 --> 01:07:16,599
[Rosenberg] Ihe newsroom,
| had done in a huge store
1205
01:07:16,733 --> 01:07:18,234
hat was empty on Sixt Avenue,
1206
01:07:18,368 --> 01:07:22,338
It was a gigantic retail establishment
of some kind that | cleared out,
1207
01:07:22,472 --> 01:07:26,709
and we brought a spiral staircase
to tie into fine control room
1208
01:07:26,843 --> 01:07:30,947
ane! then louilt the enure newsroom
within that storetront.
1209
01:07:31,681 --> 01:07:35,718
Ihe only ume we were In a stucio
was in a tiny insert stage
1210
01:07:35,852 --> 01:07:38,254
ror the scene with Flolden and Dunaway.
1211
01:07:38,388 --> 01:07:39,589
We were in tie til lousiness,
1212
01:07:39,756 --> 01:07:44,594
We weren't used to scenes of that nature,
which are now quite tame in today's world,
1213
01:07:44,727 --> 01:07:48,431
and we wanted to make sure
that she had complete privacy.
1214
01:07:48,598 --> 01:07:52,01
SO that was done in a litte
controlled insert stage on 48th Street,
1215
01:07:52,468 --> 01:07:54,537
the exterior or which
was shot in East Hampton.
1216
01:07:54,671 --> 01:07:56,372
[Diana] We're standing
on the First Amendment,
1217
01:07:56,539 --> 01:07:58,741
freedom of the press,
and the right to protect our sources.
1218
01:07:58,875 --> 01:08:00,243
Inarrator] On October the 75th,
1219
01:08:00,410 --> 01:08:04,681
Diana Christensen lew to Los Angeles ror
what the trade calls powwows and coniabs
1220
01:08:04,814 --> 01:08:06,783
win our West Coast programming @xecs,
1221
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:11,321
[Rosenberg] We never went to Calirornia,
so the scenes iin California were done,
1222
01:08:11,454 --> 01:08:13,756
| believe, as | rememioer,
out in Long Island,
1223
01:08:13,890 --> 01:08:15,959
win the Long Island lexpressway
standing in
1224
01:08:16,92 --> 01:08:17,927
ror the thruways in Calitomia,
1225
01:08:18,61 --> 01:08:20,697
and with the use of dressing and light
1226
01:08:20,830 --> 01:08:24,100
we managed to convey
the Califomia feeling.
1227
01:08:24,267 --> 01:08:27,370
lm thererore pleased to announce
| am submitting to the board of directors
1228
01:08:27,503 --> 01:08:30,239
a plan tor the coordination
of the main protit centers.
1229
01:08:30,406 --> 01:08:33,776
[Rosenberg] Ihe stocknolders meeting,
we used the Plaza Hotel for the ballroom,
1230
01:08:33,910 --> 01:08:37,180
and then the MGM building
was also very useful for the lobby
1231
01:08:37,347 --> 01:08:40,416
DeCause thie actual Howard Beale Show
was shot in Canada,
1232
01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:43,86
OUR tAS People entering tne loullding
and in the lobloy
1233
01:08:43,252 --> 01:08:47,90
ANG GOING into the show was happening
in the MGM building in New York.
1234
01:08:47,991 --> 01:08:50,526
Mr. Jensen Wanhts to mest
Floward Beale personally.
1235
01:08:51,861 --> 01:08:55,131
rie wants Mr. Beale in his otrice
at 10:00 tomorrow morming.
1236
01:08:55,264 --> 01:08:58,401
Vallhalla, Wir. Beale. Please, sit Cown.
1237
01:08:58,568 --> 01:09:02,805
Lumet] Tae sequence with Ned Beeattiy
was shot up in the boardroom
1238
01:09:02,939 --> 01:09:04,540
lor trae New Yorik Public Library:
1239
01:09:04,674 --> 01:09:08,11
And tie tirst moment | walked in,
[ said, "That’s ft."
1240
01:09:08,144 --> 01:09:10,747
([Roizman] In the screenplay,
that was so beautifully descriloed
1241
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,83
as far as the light and light efrects
and things like that went,
1242
01:09:14,250 --> 01:09:17,153
it WAS ONS Of those things you picture
and you can't wait to shoot itt
1243
01:09:17,286 --> 01:09:19,489
it's gonna be great-looking.
1244
01:09:19,622 --> 01:09:22,492
Well, as tt turned out,
at the New York Public Library,
1245
01:09:22,625 --> 01:09:24,927
Key wouldn't let us rig
any lights anyplace.
1246
01:09:25,94 --> 01:09:29,932
And so | was reallly hamperec
oy how much | could co in the room.
1247
01:09:30,700 --> 01:09:36,39
And they allowed me to put one light
on a post someplace, and that was it.
1248
01:09:36,172 --> 01:09:39,342
Everytning else had to loe on the tloor,
nicden trom the camera,
1249
01:09:39,475 --> 01:09:42,78
Ane! so | found tt very limitne
in that way,
1250
01:09:42,211 --> 01:09:44,380
ane so | tried
to make tie loest | could of it,
1251
01:09:44,514 --> 01:09:47,83
ihe Arals have taken billions
of dollars out of this country,
1252
01:09:47,216 --> 01:09:48,818
and now they must Putt It back,
1253
01:09:48,951 --> 01:09:51,220
[Lumet] And then
through the use of the lenses;
1254
01:09:51,354 --> 01:09:53,623
loy Gnanging lenses constantly
1255
01:09:53,756 --> 01:09:55,625
as Ned Beatty was talking,
1256
01:09:56,359 --> 01:10:01,264
| was getting a greater and greater
COMPOESSOMOMTOSeH Anoss
1257
01:10:01,998 --> 01:10:09,05
SO It kept, to me, looking like
more and more of a starlit sky.
1258
01:10:11,74 --> 01:10:14,343
And! tie voice coming irom aloove It,
the man coming trom above it,
1259
01:10:14,911 --> 01:10:18,881
winding up witn his walk around tne talole
to where he finally arrives.
1260
01:10:19,415 --> 01:10:23,319
But first, tarough darkness,
you lose alll the stars and all that.
1261
01:10:23,453 --> 01:10:25,955
Ano taen e's tiie SUT
1262
01:10:26,89 --> 01:10:27,56
1263
01:10:28,958 --> 01:10:32,528
-Because youre on television, dummy:
-[Roizman] Sidney had said to me:
1264
01:10:32,662 --> 01:10:36,632
| WAIN It tO look like Peter's looking
at him like he’s looking at God."
1265
01:10:36,799 --> 01:10:41,170
Ano! so | used this heavy backlight on him
and lolew it out
1266
01:10:41,337 --> 01:10:44,307
so that Ine had
this ethereal halo quality around him:
1267
01:10:44,440 --> 01:10:47,710
[Lumet] And! it lent ttselt,
without ever forcing It,
1268
01:10:47,877 --> 01:10:53,716
Into a really complex visual metaphor
for what he was saying.
1269
01:10:53,850 --> 01:10:59,255
And the truth of that piece
in relation to today is unbelievable.
1270
01:10:59,956 --> 01:11:04,293
TAS world Is one large
ecumenical corporation.
1271
01:11:04,427 --> 01:11:06,429
| have seen the face of God,
1272
01:11:07,630 --> 01:11:09,699
You just might be right, Mr. Beale!
1273
01:11:09,832 --> 01:11:12,235
([Roizman] Ihe sequence
that was interesting for me
1274
01:11:12,368 --> 01:11:16,72
was when they were discussing
the planning of killing him.
1275
01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:20,243
| think | can get the Mao Ise-lung people
LON BSACROMUS
1276
01:11:20,376 --> 01:11:21,410
Aas one of their shows.
1277
01:11:21,544 --> 01:11:24,180
[[Roizman] Sidney sort of let me do
whatever | wanted in tinere.
1278
01:11:24,347 --> 01:11:28,217
‘SO | did it very dramatically, with pools
of light on the ditierent people,
1279
01:11:28,351 --> 01:11:30,486
lerYING tO Point Out certain areas
1280
01:11:30,620 --> 01:11:34,891
and the cliiierent faces,
anc hice some areas in shacow
1281
01:11:35,24 --> 01:11:37,927
D@CAUSe those People were reallly,
in their souls,
1282
01:11:38,60 --> 01:11:39,462
Key were lurking in the shacows.
1283
01:11:39,629 --> 01:11:43,966
They were planning this clancestine murder
of another person because of the ratings.
1284
01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:45,568
i Was So bizarre.
1285
01:11:45,701 --> 01:11:48,571
And so | tried to treat it
like that visually.
1286
01:11:48,704 --> 01:11:50,873
It reallly does look
like 2 Ford commercial
1287
01:11:51,374 --> 01:11:56,579
I's SO perrect. It's so artiicial.
1288
01:11:56,712 --> 01:11:59,248
It looks reall,
out it's totally artificial.
1289
01:11:59,382 --> 01:12:03,252
And that was also iin the staging of It,
for instance.
1290
01:12:03,386 --> 01:12:06,322
Nobody moves. Everyoody’s in their chair!
1291
01:12:06,489 --> 01:12:10,326
Nobody gets up, NODOGY PIcKS Up a glass
of water, nobody takes a cigarette.
1292
01:12:10,459 --> 01:12:11,961
es Static.
1293
01:12:12,94 --> 01:12:13,796
(irlacket] Where does that out us, Diana’?
1294
01:12:15,97 --> 01:12:18,301
‘hat PUKS US IN the Shithouse,
That's where that puts us.
1295
01:12:18,434 --> 01:12:20,570
[Lumet] So it was also in the pauses
1296
01:12:20,703 --> 01:12:24,407
and tie fact that nobody's voice
ever got louder than that.
1297
01:12:24,540 --> 01:12:27,510
So, what do we do
aloourt this Beale son of a loittch?
1298
01:12:29,679 --> 01:12:31,380
Suppose we'll have to kill him.
1299
01:12:32,114 --> 01:12:35,151
[Lumet] So ithe corruption
of the camera was complete.
1300
01:12:35,284 --> 01:12:37,486
it had nothing to do with reality anymore.
1301
01:12:37,620 --> 01:12:42,225
And then It WAS Intercut
with people arriving
1302
01:12:42,358 --> 01:12:44,427
Tor the beginning of
ihe Howard Beale Show;
1303
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,363
including our killers. |GAucKIes]
1304
01:12:47,496 --> 01:12:48,831
We see them arriving.
1305
01:12:49,432 --> 01:12:55,571
As a resullt, the movement
versus the static quality in that room,
1306
01:12:55,738 --> 01:12:59,508
Ke tension lbetween those two things
just keeps building and building.
1307
01:12:59,642 --> 01:13:02,845
It was very calculated
on my part exacily how to do it.
1308
01:13:03,279 --> 01:13:04,914
Ladies and gentlemen, let's hear Itt.
1309
01:13:05,681 --> 01:13:08,417
-FlOow co you Teel’?
-[in unison] We're mad as hell,
1310
01:13:08,551 --> 01:13:11,220
and were not gonna take this anymore!
1311
01:13:11,354 --> 01:13:14,156
Lumet] You are aiming
ror the third act all along:
1312
01:13:14,290 --> 01:13:18,294
That's what everyaniing
is being literally directed toward.
1313
01:13:18,427 --> 01:13:19,629
nats wet 2 director does!
1314
01:13:20,96 --> 01:13:22,765
Ihererore, what was very critical,
for example,
1315
01:13:22,899 --> 01:13:26,636
WAS ASVEF to ave a2 Scene eadliied
the way that scene was edited.
1316
01:13:26,769 --> 01:13:27,970
i's like 2 metronome,
1317
01:13:28,104 --> 01:13:30,239
There's ho other scene
in the picture that’s goings
1318
01:13:30,373 --> 01:13:32,74
limmakes metronome ticking]
1319
01:13:32,208 --> 01:13:33,442
hat one does:
1320
01:13:37,914 --> 01:13:41,751
SO it was allso the only time
during tie live television show
1321
01:13:41,884 --> 01:13:43,619
Kat we con't go Into the control room.
1322
01:13:43,753 --> 01:13:44,954
es all] out inere!
1323
01:13:45,454 --> 01:13:49,492
And then even tie floor
lof the Howard Beale set,
1324
01:13:49,625 --> 01:13:52,428
hak Is Much more Frigtaly Itt
1325
01:13:52,561 --> 01:13:55,765
Khan any or the previous scenes
in that television studio,
1326
01:13:56,332 --> 01:14:00,236
So these are alll of the conscious
anc unconscious decisions
1327
01:14:00,369 --> 01:14:02,238
Which Go Into the making or a movie.
1328
01:14:02,371 --> 01:14:04,807
| mean, t was a completely
unconscious clecision
1329
01:14:04,974 --> 01:14:10,713
to have the major crane camera come
parreling in on Floward Beale that way.
1330
01:14:10,846 --> 01:14:12,214
Bur its 2 woncdertul shot
1331
01:14:12,381 --> 01:14:15,751
And so sometimes you know
where they come trom, sometines you don't,
1332
01:14:16,285 --> 01:14:19,422
l figured it would loe aloout
42 16-week shoot, and Howard said:
1333
01:14:19,588 --> 01:14:23,793
'Slaney thinks he can do it in 11 weeks.”
| said, “Eleven weeks? My God.
1334
01:14:23,926 --> 01:14:25,761
Witte all the material that’s in this?
1335
01:14:25,895 --> 01:14:27,630
Whoa, IS this gonna be a cnallengel”
1336
01:14:27,797 --> 01:14:31,33
Well, we did t in nine weeks.
rive days a week, eight hours a day.
1337
01:14:31,167 --> 01:14:33,402
‘SO | was very intrigued
by that whole thing.
1338
01:14:33,536 --> 01:14:35,304
And everything that everyoody ever said
1339
01:14:35,471 --> 01:14:39,408
aloout Siciney being totally organized
was extremely accurate.
1340
01:14:39,542 --> 01:14:43,245
One or the things aloout working
with Sidney Lumet is that energy,
1341
01:14:43,379 --> 01:14:45,748
tat inerecilole energy
that just keeps you moving
1342
01:14:45,881 --> 01:14:48,451
and discovering things all tne time.
K's wondertull
1343
01:14:48,617 --> 01:14:53,322
And SO, Not because we were scheduled
in any way to do it,
1344
01:14:53,456 --> 01:14:58,294
lout five weeks airier ihe film was shot,
Wwe tumed it over to our sound! editors.
1345
01:14:58,461 --> 01:15:04,367
We had a locked ‘film.
And usually you're months on a movie.
1346
01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:06,402
nis is terriic sturr
1347
01:15:06,535 --> 01:15:10,72
It is a shattering
and oeauttiful sensation:
1348
01:15:10,239 --> 01:15:14,577
The main thing tor me aloout Network was
There were two things:
1349
01:15:14,744 --> 01:15:19,415
Spending time with Paddy Chayetsky, which,
as | said before, | miss hin every day.
1350
01:15:20,82 --> 01:15:23,652
And aS & Creative Sxperience,
it was about as complete a time
1351
01:15:23,786 --> 01:15:26,55
as lve hac ever on a movie!
1352
01:15:26,188 --> 01:15:27,256
Everyining worked.
1353
01:15:27,923 --> 01:15:30,459
And winen It didnt work,
we were alle to fix it,
1354
01:15:30,593 --> 01:15:33,829
SO from a2 creative point of view,
twas 2 dream.
1355
01:15:34,263 --> 01:15:36,32
Iman & audience] We're number one!
1356
01:15:36,165 --> 01:15:37,700
Were humioer one!
1357
01:15:43,873 --> 01:15:47,543
[Walter] Sichey Lumet
is 2 dear irienc! of mine.
1358
01:15:48,77 --> 01:15:51,13
rie was tie clirector on You Are There,
1359
01:15:51,147 --> 01:15:54,984
A program that dramatized
historical moments.
1360
01:15:55,151 --> 01:16:01,90
We had CBS news people interviewing
these characters trom history.
1361
01:16:01,223 --> 01:16:05,261
And that program was one
of the most popular programs
1362
01:16:05,394 --> 01:16:08,130
of tis time in the early “50s
1363
01:16:08,264 --> 01:16:11,801
And people still come up to me
OMUNEESINEE!
1364
01:16:11,967 --> 01:16:17,306
and quote my copy, which closed with
“What sort of day was it?
1365
01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:19,775
A daly like alll days,
iillec! with those events
1366
01:16:19,909 --> 01:16:22,78
inet alter anc illuminate our times."
1367
01:16:22,511 --> 01:16:28,250
It was a very popular snow,
and he and | became quite well acquainted
1368
01:16:28,384 --> 01:16:32,254
through his cireciing
that wonderful project.
1369
01:16:32,388 --> 01:16:36,592
And ainer tne program was presented,
1370
01:16:36,725 --> 01:16:40,162
every Sunday night, we would retire to-s
1371
01:16:40,296 --> 01:16:45,67
For a litte lilbation at a saloon
Across the street trom tie stuclio,
1372
01:16:45,201 --> 01:16:51,73
And there we spent some time,
and | got to know him very well.
1373
01:16:51,207 --> 01:16:53,776
rie Is indeed a genius.
1374
01:16:53,909 --> 01:16:55,878
newsreels clacking]
1375
01:16:59,215 --> 01:17:02,751
he nrst attempt on Presicent Ford's Ire
was 18 days ago,
1376
01:17:02,885 --> 01:17:04,987
and again yesterday in San Francisco.
1377
01:17:05,121 --> 01:17:09,592
[Walter] In the 1970s,
television news was still fairly new.
1378
01:17:10,359 --> 01:17:15,531
It reallly only got tts start
4 decade before, in the "60s.
1379
01:17:16,265 --> 01:17:21,170
SO We were enjoying the excitement
of finding our way,
1380
01:17:21,303 --> 01:17:25,40
of discovering the new ways
to do television news,
1381
01:17:25,875 --> 01:17:28,344
Kihie techniques we could use
1382
01:17:28,477 --> 01:17:32,915
and how we would get our film in
and develop it in time.
1383
01:17:33,82 --> 01:17:37,253
All or that was very primitive compared
to what we have today,
1384
01:17:37,386 --> 01:17:40,89
with satellite transmissions
anc! all te rest of it.
1385
01:17:40,222 --> 01:17:44,660
SO it was an exciting time
ror nearly all of us involved.
1386
01:17:44,827 --> 01:17:51,567
We were developing wnat television news
really became in the “70s.
1387
01:17:51,700 --> 01:17:52,468
It Grew Up.
1388
01:17:52,635 --> 01:17:58,207
That was sort Of our passing
through adolescence into adulthood.
1389
01:17:58,707 --> 01:18:00,843
| have decided to kill mysell
1390
01:18:01,10 --> 01:18:05,247
i'm going to blow my rains out
right on this program 2 week from today.
1391
01:18:06,515 --> 01:18:08,717
lununcder crashes]
1392
01:18:08,851 --> 01:18:10,452
Walter] We were all anxious to see It!
1393
01:18:10,586 --> 01:18:12,254
Witr alll the aclvance pullicnty,
1394
01:18:12,388 --> 01:18:16,458
we realized t was playing
upon our business,
1395
01:18:17,92 --> 01:18:20,496
ane we howled with laughter,
1396
01:18:20,629 --> 01:18:22,264
rolled over on thie iloor,
1397
01:18:22,431 --> 01:18:27,403
Wihtn the depiction
of what television news was reallly like
1398
01:18:27,536 --> 01:18:29,638
i tne Movie version,
1399
01:18:29,772 --> 01:18:33,943
-TAIs iS going Out live to 6/ afiiliates;
-|_ eave him on.
1400
01:18:34,76 --> 01:18:36,412
SO | dont have any bullshit lett
1401
01:18:37,947 --> 01:18:39,682
/ just ran Out OF it, You See.
1402
01:18:40,82 --> 01:18:43,152
Walter] | uncerstand that, presumally,
1403
01:18:43,319 --> 01:18:48,457
tie movie was SUPPOSsed to be a combination
of drama and comedy.
1404
01:18:49,491 --> 01:18:52,194
JO US in tAe News lousiness,
it was all comedy.
1405
01:18:53,128 --> 01:18:58,667
It was So overdrawn
as to what took place in the newsrooms
1406
01:18:58,801 --> 01:19:00,736
and how we put a Story togeiner.
1407
01:19:00,869 --> 01:19:03,572
Apparently the ratings went up
five points last night,
1408
01:19:03,706 --> 01:19:06,75
and he wants rloware
to GO back on and yell “Bullshit.”
1409
01:19:06,208 --> 01:19:08,110
fall laughing)
1410
01:19:08,244 --> 01:19:10,379
Walter] And | guess at the moment,
1411
01:19:10,512 --> 01:19:13,882
we probally had some concern
1412
01:19:14,49 --> 01:19:18,554
Kdiat thie pullic would think that this Is
the way newsrooms really operated.
1413
01:19:19,221 --> 01:19:21,90
That is always 2 concerm
1414
01:19:21,223 --> 01:19:28,97
when you Teel thet your occupation
is maligned in the movies.
1415
01:19:28,230 --> 01:19:30,99
And we alt tiat way aloourt it,
1416
01:19:30,232 --> 01:19:31,300
ror Goals sakes, Diana,
1417
01:19:31,467 --> 01:19:36,05
were talking aloout putting a manirestly
irresponsible man on national television.
1418
01:19:37,72 --> 01:19:40,276
But the SUCCESS OF the Movie
was hot a surprise,
1419
01:19:40,442 --> 01:19:44,580
| don't think, to any OF US Wo Saw I,
It was beautifully produced.
1420
01:19:45,547 --> 01:19:49,251
Ihe comedy aspects, as | say,
appealed to us particularly.
1421
01:19:50,286 --> 01:19:52,988
[man] Go to stancloy,
you stupid son of a bitch! Dumlb schmuck.
1422
01:19:54,590 --> 01:19:57,793
Walter] But the drama in tt
had its place,
1423
01:19:57,926 --> 01:20:00,663
aNd kt Seemed to me Guite clear
the moment we saw it,
1424
01:20:00,796 --> 01:20:03,365
| think we alll sald,
"This thing is gonna be a hit."
1425
01:20:03,532 --> 01:20:06,68
You lhad less than a minute
of hard national anc intemational news:
1426
01:20:06,201 --> 01:20:08,804
it was alll sex, scandal,
brutal crimes, sports,
1427
01:20:09,471 --> 01:20:12,241
children with incurable diseases,
and lost puppies.
1428
01:20:12,374 --> 01:20:14,410
‘SO | don't think I'll listen
to any protestations
1429
01:20:14,543 --> 01:20:16,445
or high standards or journalism when...
1430
01:20:16,578 --> 01:20:20,416
(Waliter] | uncerstanc
that Lumet was criticized by some
1431
01:20:20,949 --> 01:20:26,121
ror Putting on a movie that appeared
to criticize a profession
1432
01:20:26,255 --> 01:20:30,592
that he himself had grown up with.
1433
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:38,400
rils greet Success on television was with
You Are There, and it really made him.
1434
01:20:38,534 --> 01:20:41,470
But the idea of anyloody criticizing lim,
1435
01:20:41,603 --> 01:20:45,574
| dont think, ever occurred
to anybody in the profession.
1436
01:20:45,708 --> 01:20:48,911
Sour grapes, perhaps,
MOMS OME MUNONMEKERCMNOUS?
1437
01:20:49,44 --> 01:20:53,82
out Not very meaningrul eriicism.
1438
01:20:53,215 --> 01:20:56,752
it'S Ficliculous.
e's in. the entertainment business.
1439
01:20:56,919 --> 01:20:59,555
rie was in the enierainment business
when he did You Are There,
1440
01:20:59,688 --> 01:21:02,257
which was under the auspices
of the news depariment,
1441
01:21:02,391 --> 01:21:03,759
OU KKwas entertainment
1442
01:21:03,892 --> 01:21:08,464
Ane as SUGA, WNO expects im
to have to uphold the banner
1443
01:21:08,597 --> 01:21:11,567
of any previous employer
or any previous job?
1444
01:21:11,734 --> 01:21:16,739
his tule Is the Most awesome goddamn
force in the whole godless world.
1445
01:21:16,872 --> 01:21:20,843
And wnen tie 12 largest company
in the worlcl controls
1446
01:21:20,976 --> 01:21:24,413
goddamn propaganda force
1447
01:21:24,546 --> 01:21:26,281
In the whole goclless world,
1448
01:21:26,415 --> 01:21:29,918
wine knows what shit will oe pedalec
for truth on this newyork?
1449
01:21:30,85 --> 01:21:35,657
Ihe Movie shows the corporate ownership
Of the network
1450
01:21:35,791 --> 01:21:41,630
exercising Tar too muUGA Intluence
on the news production,
1451
01:21:41,764 --> 01:21:44,99
actually distoning Mt.
1452
01:21:44,266 --> 01:21:49,04
‘The new plan calls tor local news to be
Wransrerred to owned stations divisions.
1453
01:21:49,171 --> 01:21:53,208
News radio would be transierrac!
to the UBS radio division, and in efiiect,
1454
01:21:54,343 --> 01:21:57,413
dae News division would be reduced
from an independent division
1455
01:21:57,546 --> 01:22:01,83
KO 2 department accountable to network:
1456
01:22:01,216 --> 01:22:06,822
There ts a lot of talk today;
with tine ECC rules
1457
01:22:07,756 --> 01:22:10,92
permitting even more ownership
1458
01:22:10,225 --> 01:22:14,696
of multiple stations in single cities
and throughout the nation,
1459
01:22:14,830 --> 01:22:17,766
as well as newspapers In communities...
1460
01:22:17,900 --> 01:22:24,72
ere is Concem that this could
oermit serious iinterierence
1461
01:22:24,206 --> 01:22:26,608
with the integrity of the news reports.
1462
01:22:27,576 --> 01:22:33,415
| think that that danger possiloly exists,
and itis one of the reasons
1463
01:22:33,582 --> 01:22:38,921
Ktiat we certainly in the news cepariments
are somewhat concemed,
1464
01:22:39,54 --> 01:22:42,591
In tact, very concerned,
aloout the consolidation of power
1465
01:22:42,724 --> 01:22:45,327
of a few organizations.
1466
01:22:45,494 --> 01:22:49,965
| wouleln't intieriere wiih the actual news
itself, out TV is showbiz, Max.
1467
01:22:50,98 --> 01:22:54,69
‘here ts a lot of criticism
of television news today.
1468
01:22:54,203 --> 01:22:59,41
We know that there is a problem
of the network executives
1469
01:22:59,174 --> 01:23:04,12
wishing to have the news presented
with 2 little more eniieriainment value.
1470
01:23:04,580 --> 01:23:06,748
hey dont even dare use that word
1471
01:23:06,915 --> 01:23:09,918
oecause they know
that if they asked the news department
1472
01:23:10,52 --> 01:23:14,423
to make k more entertaining,
die News people would revolt.
1473
01:23:14,556 --> 01:23:17,192
lv you think I'm gonna go along
with this bastardization of the news,
1474
01:23:17,359 --> 01:23:20,162
you can have my resignation
along with Max Schumacher's right now.
1475
01:23:20,295 --> 01:23:21,930
They would protest,
1476
01:23:22,64 --> 01:23:24,500
You keep your hands
off my news division, Frank.
1477
01:23:24,633 --> 01:23:25,801
Walter] And mayoe quit,
1478
01:23:26,668 --> 01:23:29,805
That could happen
if the pressure got too great.
1479
01:23:29,938 --> 01:23:32,07
lFlackett] Your incignation
has been duly recorded.
1480
01:23:32,140 --> 01:23:33,509
You can always resign tomorrow.
1481
01:23:34,76 --> 01:23:38,80
And it is a fact
iat the pressure is there,
1482
01:23:38,213 --> 01:23:40,215
I've had it up to here
with your cruddy division
1483
01:23:40,349 --> 01:23:42,251
and its annual $33 million deficit!
1484
01:23:42,384 --> 01:23:44,753
We're responsilole
to corporate level, not you,
1485
01:23:44,887 --> 01:23:49,124
[Walter] It is not, however,
to the extent at this point yet
1486
01:23:49,258 --> 01:23:53,762
Kina it seriously impinges
upon the authority
1487
01:23:53,896 --> 01:23:55,597
ofr te evening News broacicast.
1488
01:23:55,731 --> 01:23:57,366
Weill goddamn well see aloout that
1489
01:23:57,933 --> 01:24:01,203
Walter] Tne movie was entirely a satire.
1490
01:24:01,737 --> 01:24:07,109
It POINtEd OU SOMME CONCEeMSs, Pernaps,
that people already were beginning to have
1491
01:24:07,242 --> 01:24:10,679
regaraing the enterainment tactor
iD. DSOWws.
1492
01:24:10,846 --> 01:24:17,586
It, in a way, waved a banner or warming
to the television industry
1493
01:24:17,719 --> 01:24:21,890
Kina it beter not let things ga
as far as it clid
1494
01:24:22,24 --> 01:24:24,493
on tina “network.
1495
01:24:25,93 --> 01:24:30,265
Ane | cont know what will happen
with tis revival of it on the DVD fom.
1496
01:24:30,399 --> 01:24:33,969
| would expect
that it will bring it up again
1497
01:24:34,102 --> 01:24:36,905
dat there Is too MUGA
entertainment pressure against
1498
01:24:37,39 --> 01:24:38,974
On the news devariments.
1499
01:24:39,107 --> 01:24:41,610
iiihat won't oe 2 bad erect
1500
01:24:42,678 --> 01:24:46,448
as long as we continue to be remincied
1501
01:24:46,582 --> 01:24:49,585
Kdnat tre public is concerned aloout that,
1502
01:24:50,52 --> 01:24:53,488
[Fiowarel] I'm as mad as hell,
and I'm not gonna take this anymore!
1503
01:24:53,622 --> 01:24:56,592
[thunder crashes, tien rumioles|
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