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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,352 --> 00:00:05,483 - Harlan, over here! 2 00:00:05,614 --> 00:00:07,485 - Ladies and gentlemen, Harlan Coben. 3 00:00:07,616 --> 00:00:09,661 [applause] 4 00:00:09,792 --> 00:00:11,141 - He's the greatest thriller writer. 5 00:00:11,272 --> 00:00:13,839 - Aw, come on. 6 00:00:13,970 --> 00:00:16,364 - Coben's written over 30 "New York Times" bestsellers. 7 00:00:16,494 --> 00:00:19,019 - With over a dozen hit TV shows and movies. 8 00:00:19,149 --> 00:00:21,891 [dramatic music] 9 00:00:22,022 --> 00:00:24,067 - In all our stories, the same question-- 10 00:00:24,198 --> 00:00:26,983 what made the killer cross that line? 11 00:00:31,074 --> 00:00:33,859 [suspenseful music] 12 00:00:33,990 --> 00:00:37,428 ♪ 13 00:00:37,559 --> 00:00:39,343 - I'm Harlan Coben. 14 00:00:39,474 --> 00:00:42,738 Often, the best mystery novels do not start with a murder; 15 00:00:42,868 --> 00:00:44,740 they start with a missing person. 16 00:00:44,870 --> 00:00:47,482 When I hear those words crackle over a police scanner, 17 00:00:47,612 --> 00:00:49,832 a switch flips, the dots connect, 18 00:00:49,962 --> 00:00:51,747 and I'm pulled into the void. 19 00:00:51,877 --> 00:00:53,009 That's why Nancy's disappearance 20 00:00:53,140 --> 00:00:54,706 wouldn't leave me alone. 21 00:00:54,837 --> 00:00:56,491 She was the reliable one. 22 00:00:56,621 --> 00:00:58,884 She didn't miss appointments. 23 00:00:59,015 --> 00:01:01,757 Nancy wasn't the type to just vanish. 24 00:01:01,887 --> 00:01:04,412 And that's where our mystery begins. 25 00:01:06,327 --> 00:01:08,242 - Nancy Woodrum's disappearance 26 00:01:08,372 --> 00:01:11,854 was extremely high-profile because stuff like that 27 00:01:11,984 --> 00:01:14,074 doesn't happen in this county. 28 00:01:14,204 --> 00:01:15,945 - Deputies are still searching for clues 29 00:01:16,076 --> 00:01:18,033 to find 62-year-old Nancy Woodrum, 30 00:01:18,164 --> 00:01:20,384 who went missing on Friday. 31 00:01:20,515 --> 00:01:21,994 - She had plans with a friend this morning 32 00:01:22,125 --> 00:01:23,648 that she didn't show up for. 33 00:01:23,779 --> 00:01:25,694 - We had no idea what happened to her. 34 00:01:25,824 --> 00:01:26,695 She just vanished. 35 00:01:30,002 --> 00:01:32,657 - You start looking around and questioning people. 36 00:01:32,788 --> 00:01:35,573 - In a case like this, anybody within a mile 37 00:01:35,704 --> 00:01:37,488 is a person of interest. 38 00:01:37,619 --> 00:01:40,578 - Nancy owned a large property that 39 00:01:40,709 --> 00:01:42,493 she was in the midst of selling. 40 00:01:42,624 --> 00:01:45,627 - She had several arguments about money. 41 00:01:48,847 --> 00:01:50,545 - You look at friends, family. 42 00:01:54,157 --> 00:01:56,942 - And that night, there was a large 43 00:01:57,073 --> 00:01:59,075 wedding party on the property. 44 00:02:01,947 --> 00:02:04,515 - Could one of them be involved? 45 00:02:04,646 --> 00:02:07,910 - The entire bridal party were suspects. 46 00:02:14,003 --> 00:02:15,483 - Why can't we find her? 47 00:02:15,613 --> 00:02:16,658 Where is she? 48 00:02:18,268 --> 00:02:19,574 - Where's Nancy? 49 00:02:19,704 --> 00:02:24,753 ♪ 50 00:02:24,883 --> 00:02:26,972 - A crime happened here. 51 00:02:27,103 --> 00:02:30,324 The past isn't what it seemed. 52 00:02:30,454 --> 00:02:32,804 The story told turns out to be deception. 53 00:02:32,935 --> 00:02:35,067 And just when you're sure you have the answer... 54 00:02:35,198 --> 00:02:37,896 - 911, what is the address of your emergency? 55 00:02:38,027 --> 00:02:39,680 Hello? Anyone there? 56 00:02:39,811 --> 00:02:42,858 - There's one final twist. 57 00:02:44,990 --> 00:02:47,819 [soft music] 58 00:02:47,950 --> 00:02:50,866 ♪ 59 00:02:50,996 --> 00:02:55,175 - Paso Robles is wine country. 60 00:02:55,305 --> 00:02:58,221 A lot of vineyards, a lot of ranches. 61 00:02:58,352 --> 00:03:02,660 People help each other, care about their neighbors. 62 00:03:02,791 --> 00:03:06,186 You can leave your doors open. 63 00:03:06,316 --> 00:03:07,970 Everybody's like family around here. 64 00:03:11,147 --> 00:03:16,326 - At that time in Paso Robles, you knew mostly everybody. 65 00:03:16,457 --> 00:03:22,332 And Nancy Woodrum was known very well by a lot of people. 66 00:03:22,463 --> 00:03:25,335 - As a friend, Nancy was someone you could trust. 67 00:03:25,466 --> 00:03:27,294 You could confide in her with things. 68 00:03:27,424 --> 00:03:32,951 And she was very gentle, very kind, always generous. 69 00:03:33,082 --> 00:03:34,170 Tip your bartender good. 70 00:03:34,301 --> 00:03:35,345 Tip your waitress good. 71 00:03:35,476 --> 00:03:37,781 [birds chirping] 72 00:03:37,913 --> 00:03:42,700 - Nancy, her residence was beautiful. 73 00:03:42,831 --> 00:03:45,442 It was an oasis. 74 00:03:45,573 --> 00:03:48,315 It felt like stepping back in time. 75 00:03:48,445 --> 00:03:55,191 There were horse corrals, a beautiful pool and spa. 76 00:03:55,322 --> 00:03:59,021 - Nancy lived there with her husband. 77 00:03:59,151 --> 00:04:03,504 And then he passed away, leaving her the house. 78 00:04:03,634 --> 00:04:04,940 [camera shutter clicking] 79 00:04:05,070 --> 00:04:07,508 Nancy was getting ready to sell it. 80 00:04:07,638 --> 00:04:10,902 She was in the process of fixing up 81 00:04:11,033 --> 00:04:12,513 some different parts of the property. 82 00:04:12,643 --> 00:04:17,909 And she put the house up for rent for wedding parties. 83 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,956 [pensive music] 84 00:04:21,086 --> 00:04:26,744 - We picked May 5th as our wedding day. 85 00:04:26,875 --> 00:04:30,922 We rented Nancy's property from a rental site. 86 00:04:31,053 --> 00:04:33,795 It seemed just like the perfect place 87 00:04:33,925 --> 00:04:37,407 to get ready with all of my best friends. 88 00:04:37,538 --> 00:04:41,106 - I stayed in the guest house with the bride 89 00:04:41,237 --> 00:04:43,718 and two other bridesmaids. 90 00:04:43,848 --> 00:04:47,417 The bride had informed me that, if we need anything, 91 00:04:47,548 --> 00:04:49,985 the owner's right here, staying in the studio 92 00:04:50,115 --> 00:04:52,422 connected to our guest house. 93 00:04:52,553 --> 00:04:58,907 - Nancy came across as a very kind-hearted and sweet woman, 94 00:04:59,037 --> 00:05:02,389 someone who gives you a hug right when you meet them, 95 00:05:02,519 --> 00:05:07,698 and very welcoming and upbeat. 96 00:05:07,829 --> 00:05:11,136 - On Friday night, we attended the rehearsal dinner 97 00:05:11,267 --> 00:05:12,790 at a local winery. 98 00:05:15,837 --> 00:05:18,796 And then the day of the wedding, 99 00:05:18,927 --> 00:05:21,451 it was the hustle and bustle of trying 100 00:05:21,582 --> 00:05:27,414 to get 11 bridesmaids and the mom of the bride ready. 101 00:05:27,544 --> 00:05:30,417 Then we started taking pictures around the property. 102 00:05:32,244 --> 00:05:37,119 And at that point, the golf cart pulled up. 103 00:05:37,249 --> 00:05:40,209 It was Nancy's daughter. 104 00:05:40,340 --> 00:05:45,040 She approached us and asked us if we had seen her mom. 105 00:05:47,303 --> 00:05:49,871 She was like, her bed has been stripped. 106 00:05:50,001 --> 00:05:52,613 Looks like there was a struggle in her room. 107 00:05:52,743 --> 00:05:55,442 There's blood. 108 00:05:55,572 --> 00:05:57,400 I remember looking at her and telling her, 109 00:05:57,531 --> 00:05:59,402 you need to call the police. 110 00:05:59,533 --> 00:06:01,186 You need to call the police. 111 00:06:01,317 --> 00:06:02,753 You need to call the police. 112 00:06:02,884 --> 00:06:04,538 I think I said it three times. 113 00:06:23,339 --> 00:06:25,080 [sirens wailing] 114 00:06:25,210 --> 00:06:27,822 - Myself and another deputy were dispatched 115 00:06:27,952 --> 00:06:30,912 to a possible missing persons case 116 00:06:31,042 --> 00:06:34,524 at Nancy's house. 117 00:06:34,655 --> 00:06:37,571 - There were several things not right. 118 00:06:37,701 --> 00:06:41,096 Nancy's daughter told the patrol deputies 119 00:06:41,226 --> 00:06:45,448 that Nancy would never leave her sliding glass door open. 120 00:06:45,579 --> 00:06:49,974 And when family arrived, the TV was on. 121 00:06:50,105 --> 00:06:55,763 And Nancy would never go to bed or fall asleep with the TV on. 122 00:07:00,463 --> 00:07:04,815 - There was what appeared to be blood inside, on the floor, 123 00:07:04,946 --> 00:07:09,559 dried blood on the carpet, some on the wall. 124 00:07:09,690 --> 00:07:11,431 There was bedding that was missing. 125 00:07:15,086 --> 00:07:16,174 - And there was a decorative pillow 126 00:07:16,305 --> 00:07:19,134 that had what appeared to be 127 00:07:19,264 --> 00:07:21,049 smeared dried blood on both sides of it. 128 00:07:21,179 --> 00:07:24,052 [suspenseful music] 129 00:07:24,182 --> 00:07:28,230 At that time, I'd been in law enforcement for 20-some years, 130 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,972 and I'd seen plenty of crime scenes. 131 00:07:31,102 --> 00:07:34,366 And this was a crime scene and not an accident. 132 00:07:34,497 --> 00:07:37,065 [indistinct radio chatter] 133 00:07:37,195 --> 00:07:39,023 - It went from missing person 134 00:07:39,154 --> 00:07:41,983 to potential homicide right away. 135 00:07:42,113 --> 00:07:44,986 You always hope for the best and prepare for the worst. 136 00:07:46,944 --> 00:07:52,863 - And then we learned there was a second scene. 137 00:07:52,994 --> 00:07:56,824 A patrol officer had located some bedding and clothing 138 00:07:56,954 --> 00:07:59,740 out towards Highway 58. 139 00:07:59,870 --> 00:08:04,396 Our lab confirmed that it belonged to Nancy Woodrum. 140 00:08:04,527 --> 00:08:07,835 And some of it had blood on it. 141 00:08:10,446 --> 00:08:12,317 - She was taken. 142 00:08:12,448 --> 00:08:15,930 And we feared that Nancy was probably in a vehicle, 143 00:08:16,060 --> 00:08:20,369 and somehow, that bedding had fallen out of that vehicle. 144 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:23,633 Tragically, she may be injured or, at the worst, dead. 145 00:08:23,764 --> 00:08:27,550 ♪ 146 00:08:27,681 --> 00:08:30,335 - The unknown sparks our imagination, 147 00:08:30,466 --> 00:08:32,947 a million what-ifs to explore. 148 00:08:33,077 --> 00:08:36,602 But those first few hours are the most precious. 149 00:08:36,732 --> 00:08:38,996 Focus on the wrong what-ifs, 150 00:08:39,126 --> 00:08:42,130 and the door of opportunity closes. 151 00:08:44,219 --> 00:08:46,961 - At Nancy's, I dusted for prints 152 00:08:47,091 --> 00:08:52,575 and collected several items that had blood on them. 153 00:08:52,706 --> 00:08:55,360 And a little bit of blood on the pillow 154 00:08:55,491 --> 00:08:59,277 had the shape of a handprint. 155 00:08:59,408 --> 00:09:02,237 I collected items from her bathroom, 156 00:09:02,367 --> 00:09:04,239 such as a toothbrush and a hairbrush, 157 00:09:04,369 --> 00:09:09,113 so that we would be able to build a DNA profile. 158 00:09:09,244 --> 00:09:12,726 We were able to determine that the female contributor 159 00:09:12,856 --> 00:09:15,903 on the blood on the pillow was Nancy. 160 00:09:18,166 --> 00:09:22,649 And there was an unknown male contributor. 161 00:09:22,779 --> 00:09:26,870 - Whoever left that DNA, he's our suspect. 162 00:09:27,001 --> 00:09:29,090 ♪ 163 00:09:33,398 --> 00:09:35,705 - Forensic evidence is the silent detective in the room, 164 00:09:35,836 --> 00:09:37,489 but it doesn't work alone. 165 00:09:37,620 --> 00:09:39,796 You can't clap with one hand. 166 00:09:39,927 --> 00:09:41,885 DNA needs a match. 167 00:09:42,016 --> 00:09:43,887 [suspenseful music] 168 00:09:44,018 --> 00:09:46,890 - When you get DNA evidence, 169 00:09:47,021 --> 00:09:50,241 you can upload that into the CODIS databank 170 00:09:50,372 --> 00:09:52,853 to see if there's anybody in CODIS 171 00:09:52,983 --> 00:09:57,161 that matches that evidence. 172 00:09:57,292 --> 00:09:58,423 There was no match. 173 00:10:00,948 --> 00:10:03,603 - Now we have to determine, who does that actually belong to? 174 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:11,654 - At that point, we get Nancy's AT&T phone records. 175 00:10:11,785 --> 00:10:14,831 One of the last people to have contact with Nancy Woodrum 176 00:10:14,962 --> 00:10:18,052 was her son, Chad. 177 00:10:18,182 --> 00:10:22,012 There was a text conversation between the two of them 178 00:10:22,143 --> 00:10:26,713 on Friday at about 7:30 in the evening. 179 00:10:26,843 --> 00:10:31,500 So we know she was alive texting her son. 180 00:10:31,631 --> 00:10:34,634 And at midnight, 17, 181 00:10:34,764 --> 00:10:38,725 there's a 911 call for 0 seconds. 182 00:10:41,031 --> 00:10:44,905 So we feel like that's when 183 00:10:45,035 --> 00:10:47,647 whoever went in her house went in her house, 184 00:10:47,777 --> 00:10:52,564 at midnight, 17, or shortly prior to that. 185 00:10:52,695 --> 00:10:55,263 - You're trying to figure out who saw her last 186 00:10:55,393 --> 00:10:57,744 and who people of interest are. 187 00:10:57,874 --> 00:11:01,661 That was a very difficult task here. 188 00:11:01,791 --> 00:11:04,359 The night of her disappearance, 189 00:11:04,489 --> 00:11:06,622 there's a whole bunch of people on the property. 190 00:11:08,450 --> 00:11:14,499 - We, as the bridal party, were cast as the initial suspects. 191 00:11:14,630 --> 00:11:17,154 - Saturday night, it took a couple hours 192 00:11:17,285 --> 00:11:19,940 to interview the wedding party. 193 00:11:20,070 --> 00:11:25,293 There was a couple of people that did see Nancy on Friday. 194 00:11:25,423 --> 00:11:31,691 And then all of the guests had gone to the rehearsal dinner. 195 00:11:31,821 --> 00:11:35,303 - At the rehearsal dinner, people were drinking. 196 00:11:35,433 --> 00:11:38,045 People do silly things when they're drinking. 197 00:11:38,175 --> 00:11:41,962 - And we did learn that one of the wedding guests 198 00:11:42,092 --> 00:11:45,879 told a detective that he stayed behind 199 00:11:46,009 --> 00:11:49,883 and did not go to the rehearsal dinner. 200 00:11:50,013 --> 00:11:51,928 Why would you come all the way to a wedding 201 00:11:52,059 --> 00:11:53,843 and then stay back? 202 00:11:53,974 --> 00:11:57,586 He puts himself on the property alone with Nancy 203 00:11:57,717 --> 00:12:00,807 for five or six hours. 204 00:12:00,937 --> 00:12:03,070 According to the detective that spoke to him, 205 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,987 he was kind of exhibiting some suspicious behavior, 206 00:12:07,117 --> 00:12:09,380 just a little excessive nervousness. 207 00:12:11,295 --> 00:12:15,256 So we went to re-interview him. 208 00:12:15,386 --> 00:12:18,868 - We just had a couple more questions to clarify. 209 00:12:18,999 --> 00:12:19,913 - Okay. 210 00:12:23,133 --> 00:12:24,744 - Yeah. 211 00:13:00,214 --> 00:13:03,217 - His wife provided pictures of him and her 212 00:13:03,347 --> 00:13:05,175 at the rehearsal dinner. 213 00:13:05,306 --> 00:13:07,787 There were phone date and time stamps. 214 00:13:07,917 --> 00:13:10,572 It was very clear he was there. 215 00:13:10,702 --> 00:13:13,836 We asked him for consent. 216 00:13:13,967 --> 00:13:17,274 He very quickly volunteered his DNA. 217 00:13:17,405 --> 00:13:19,624 And he's cleared by DNA. 218 00:13:22,410 --> 00:13:25,195 - Never in a million years was there a thought 219 00:13:25,326 --> 00:13:27,676 that anybody in that wedding party 220 00:13:27,807 --> 00:13:30,592 was a part of or responsible for anything 221 00:13:30,722 --> 00:13:33,638 that happened to Nancy. 222 00:13:33,769 --> 00:13:37,642 We had our babies there. We had our families there. 223 00:13:37,773 --> 00:13:43,126 Everyone cooperated, and we were cleared. 224 00:13:43,257 --> 00:13:46,695 - We did get married that day. 225 00:13:46,826 --> 00:13:50,220 But it hit us really hard. 226 00:13:50,351 --> 00:13:56,836 I look back to my wedding, and I think of Nancy. 227 00:14:00,274 --> 00:14:03,451 - Each dead end means hours lost. 228 00:14:03,581 --> 00:14:06,019 Each hour lost means a lifetime 229 00:14:06,149 --> 00:14:09,413 for criminals to cover their tracks. 230 00:14:09,544 --> 00:14:11,894 - An update now on the missing woman in Paso Robles. 231 00:14:12,025 --> 00:14:14,331 Deputies are expanding their search. 232 00:14:14,462 --> 00:14:17,291 62-year-old Nancy Woodrum has been missing 233 00:14:17,421 --> 00:14:18,727 since Friday afternoon. 234 00:14:20,729 --> 00:14:23,340 - At that point, the investigative team, 235 00:14:23,471 --> 00:14:26,039 they were developing leads to find out 236 00:14:26,169 --> 00:14:28,693 who had been interacting with Nancy in the days 237 00:14:28,824 --> 00:14:31,044 leading up to her disappearance. 238 00:14:31,174 --> 00:14:34,743 - In any missing persons case, we talk to the family. 239 00:14:34,874 --> 00:14:36,832 - Where do you think something could have 240 00:14:36,963 --> 00:14:39,008 gone wrong with your mom 241 00:14:39,139 --> 00:14:41,141 and somebody would want to hurt her? 242 00:15:10,170 --> 00:15:12,085 - There was a realtor named Joe 243 00:15:12,215 --> 00:15:16,176 who was a family friend, who, at one point, 244 00:15:16,306 --> 00:15:19,701 had the listing for Nancy's house. 245 00:15:19,831 --> 00:15:22,747 - I had Nancy's house on the market 246 00:15:22,878 --> 00:15:24,924 maybe a year and a half ago. 247 00:15:45,988 --> 00:15:47,816 - There was some hostility. 248 00:15:47,947 --> 00:15:49,426 He was very angry. 249 00:16:03,875 --> 00:16:05,573 - It's a $2 million property. 250 00:16:05,703 --> 00:16:07,618 That's a lot of commission. 251 00:16:07,749 --> 00:16:09,969 He felt like Nancy did him dirty. 252 00:16:13,407 --> 00:16:15,931 ♪ 253 00:16:19,195 --> 00:16:21,937 [pensive music] 254 00:16:22,068 --> 00:16:25,593 ♪ 255 00:16:25,723 --> 00:16:28,335 - Everyone has a mask they show the world, 256 00:16:28,465 --> 00:16:32,774 the best version of themselves, the one who plays by the rules. 257 00:16:32,904 --> 00:16:36,125 But it's an act, a performance. 258 00:16:36,256 --> 00:16:38,780 Those who see the real face underneath the mask, 259 00:16:38,910 --> 00:16:41,565 the messy reality, they're the ones who know 260 00:16:41,696 --> 00:16:43,915 how far we're willing to go. 261 00:16:44,046 --> 00:16:46,092 The truth is never black and white. 262 00:16:46,222 --> 00:16:49,269 It lives in the murky grays where we each negotiate 263 00:16:49,399 --> 00:16:53,838 our own version of right and wrong. 264 00:16:55,884 --> 00:16:59,105 - Do you remember what type of threats Joe made? 265 00:17:02,456 --> 00:17:06,068 - While we were looking at Joe, the realtor, 266 00:17:06,199 --> 00:17:09,723 we did discover Nancy was also having issues 267 00:17:09,854 --> 00:17:12,553 with a contractor. 268 00:17:12,683 --> 00:17:15,556 - They had some level of disagreement with Nancy 269 00:17:15,685 --> 00:17:17,297 over the preparation for sale of the property. 270 00:17:17,426 --> 00:17:19,777 [suspenseful music] 271 00:17:19,907 --> 00:17:24,694 - San Luis Obispo is a fairly small county. 272 00:17:24,826 --> 00:17:27,655 In law enforcement, you can become familiar 273 00:17:27,785 --> 00:17:31,137 with what we call frequent flyers. 274 00:17:31,267 --> 00:17:35,097 When we heard the name of the contractor, Shaun Blume, 275 00:17:35,228 --> 00:17:37,186 most of us knew him. 276 00:17:37,317 --> 00:17:39,014 - He had a conviction. 277 00:17:39,145 --> 00:17:42,844 ♪ 278 00:17:42,974 --> 00:17:46,326 - I'm a general contractor, so I do pretty much 279 00:17:46,456 --> 00:17:48,371 all different phases of construction. 280 00:18:30,761 --> 00:18:36,245 - There was a painter on the job site, Carlo Fuentes. 281 00:18:36,376 --> 00:18:37,725 We called Carlo. 282 00:18:37,855 --> 00:18:41,859 He told us that he had met Nancy. 283 00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:46,037 He described her as being very polite and very nice. 284 00:18:46,168 --> 00:18:48,518 There was one time he was working late, 285 00:18:48,649 --> 00:18:52,131 and she had brought him out some tamales 286 00:18:52,261 --> 00:18:55,525 to eat while he was painting 287 00:18:55,656 --> 00:18:57,658 and they had a brief conversation. 288 00:19:11,585 --> 00:19:15,328 - He confirmed, yeah, he had seen those two arguing. 289 00:19:21,899 --> 00:19:23,597 - Did Shaun push her? 290 00:19:23,727 --> 00:19:26,121 Did she fall and hit her head? Did he freak out? 291 00:19:37,741 --> 00:19:40,570 - We got DNA. 292 00:19:40,701 --> 00:19:42,137 It doesn't match. 293 00:19:42,268 --> 00:19:46,750 ♪ 294 00:19:46,881 --> 00:19:52,365 - And then when we spoke with the realtor, Joe, 295 00:19:52,495 --> 00:19:54,323 he had a confirmed alibi. 296 00:19:59,850 --> 00:20:03,245 - He had 15 or 20 people that put him 297 00:20:03,376 --> 00:20:06,161 out of the area on a trail ride. 298 00:20:06,292 --> 00:20:08,468 He could be taken off the list. 299 00:20:10,687 --> 00:20:14,561 - So the wedding guest, the contractor, 300 00:20:14,691 --> 00:20:19,392 and the realtor were ruled out. 301 00:20:19,522 --> 00:20:23,570 - We cleared those people in a few weeks. 302 00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:27,226 After that, it was a real big whodunit. 303 00:20:27,356 --> 00:20:30,272 ♪ 304 00:20:30,403 --> 00:20:32,143 [phone rings] 305 00:20:32,274 --> 00:20:35,059 - You wanna believe all the work hasn't been in vain. 306 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:37,584 But in those pursuits are clues, 307 00:20:37,714 --> 00:20:40,108 and they're adding up to something. 308 00:20:40,239 --> 00:20:43,067 Or are you overthinking it? 309 00:20:43,198 --> 00:20:45,635 - We looked at financial motive. 310 00:20:45,766 --> 00:20:48,072 Who might stand to gain something 311 00:20:48,203 --> 00:20:50,074 if she were to disappear? 312 00:20:50,205 --> 00:20:53,164 - You have a potential sale of a property. 313 00:20:53,295 --> 00:20:54,905 Certainly, you have to put family in 314 00:20:55,036 --> 00:20:56,603 as a person of interest. 315 00:21:26,372 --> 00:21:28,635 - Nancy's son, Chad, was the last person 316 00:21:28,765 --> 00:21:30,289 to have contact with her. 317 00:21:55,749 --> 00:21:58,055 - Nancy and her son didn't get along 318 00:21:58,186 --> 00:22:00,101 because of Nancy's faith. 319 00:22:13,419 --> 00:22:17,771 - Chad was very angry, didn't wanna talk to us, 320 00:22:17,901 --> 00:22:19,860 didn't really wanna cooperate. 321 00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:29,348 - Nancy's selling her property, 322 00:22:29,478 --> 00:22:32,089 and if something happened to Nancy, 323 00:22:32,220 --> 00:22:34,222 you were in line to inherit what the property sold for. 324 00:23:05,862 --> 00:23:10,650 - He said he didn't want his DNA uploaded into the system. 325 00:23:10,780 --> 00:23:15,132 We told him how suspicious it makes him look, 326 00:23:15,263 --> 00:23:18,484 and he wouldn't budge. 327 00:23:18,614 --> 00:23:20,181 He was set in stone. 328 00:23:20,311 --> 00:23:22,531 He would never give us his DNA. 329 00:23:28,494 --> 00:23:31,279 [sirens wailing] 330 00:23:33,150 --> 00:23:35,718 [grim music] 331 00:23:35,849 --> 00:23:37,459 - We see an empty chair at the dinner table, 332 00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:39,679 and we think we have it all figured out-- 333 00:23:39,809 --> 00:23:43,422 a mother's heartbreak, a son who no longer cares, 334 00:23:43,552 --> 00:23:45,815 a shattered relationship. 335 00:23:45,946 --> 00:23:47,687 Case closed. 336 00:23:47,817 --> 00:23:51,691 Or is that all just a little too obvious? 337 00:23:51,821 --> 00:23:56,435 - When was the last time you'd been out to her place? 338 00:23:59,916 --> 00:24:02,615 - Nancy's son, Chad, wanted nothing 339 00:24:02,745 --> 00:24:05,444 to do with the investigation. 340 00:24:05,574 --> 00:24:09,056 It seemed that he felt no love for his mother. 341 00:24:15,671 --> 00:24:19,458 - And he's just not a cooperative person. 342 00:24:19,588 --> 00:24:22,678 So we were watching Chad at work. 343 00:24:22,809 --> 00:24:28,031 And at the end of his shift, he was drinking beers. 344 00:24:28,162 --> 00:24:33,776 We seized the beer bottles and got his DNA. 345 00:24:33,907 --> 00:24:37,432 It surprised me that DNA 346 00:24:37,563 --> 00:24:40,479 ruled him out as a contributor to our evidence. 347 00:24:43,438 --> 00:24:46,354 - I know there was some concern that Chad 348 00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:48,138 wasn't as cooperative as he should have been, 349 00:24:48,269 --> 00:24:50,706 but his mother's gone, 350 00:24:50,837 --> 00:24:54,797 and the whole community is asking questions. 351 00:24:54,928 --> 00:24:57,104 I just think it was his way of responding, 352 00:24:57,234 --> 00:24:59,062 of just self-protecting. 353 00:24:59,193 --> 00:25:03,023 [soft music] 354 00:25:03,153 --> 00:25:05,678 - By around September, 355 00:25:05,808 --> 00:25:10,160 we had kind of cleared most everybody. 356 00:25:10,291 --> 00:25:15,035 And there was a lull there where it was scary. 357 00:25:15,165 --> 00:25:18,342 - People, quite frankly, were very afraid. 358 00:25:18,473 --> 00:25:19,692 There was a perpetrator out there that 359 00:25:19,822 --> 00:25:21,563 no one knew who they were. 360 00:25:21,694 --> 00:25:23,478 - I'd go on my walks, and all of a sudden, 361 00:25:23,609 --> 00:25:26,133 it was like, I don't know if I should be walking alone, 362 00:25:26,263 --> 00:25:28,439 when I never felt that fear before. 363 00:25:28,570 --> 00:25:32,182 - Her poster started being put up around the county. 364 00:25:32,313 --> 00:25:33,662 And people, they'd ask, 365 00:25:33,793 --> 00:25:35,969 hey, any idea what's happened to Nancy? 366 00:25:36,099 --> 00:25:37,579 Any word? 367 00:25:37,710 --> 00:25:38,972 - We reached out to the San Luis Obispo 368 00:25:39,102 --> 00:25:40,930 County Sheriff's Office. 369 00:25:41,061 --> 00:25:43,106 Unfortunately, no new details are available at this time. 370 00:25:43,237 --> 00:25:47,197 - I can't believe there hasn't been any more leads. 371 00:25:47,328 --> 00:25:52,028 - The sheriff's office has a volunteer search and rescue. 372 00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:54,640 For weeks, they literally walked 373 00:25:54,770 --> 00:26:01,081 a good ten miles looking in culverts, looking in ditches. 374 00:26:01,211 --> 00:26:02,648 I've never seen anything like it. 375 00:26:02,778 --> 00:26:05,520 [suspenseful music] 376 00:26:05,651 --> 00:26:07,566 - Unfortunately, none of those search parties 377 00:26:07,696 --> 00:26:09,480 ever turned up any evidence. 378 00:26:09,611 --> 00:26:12,701 [sirens wailing] 379 00:26:12,832 --> 00:26:16,705 - As time passes, fear quiets in the criminal. 380 00:26:16,836 --> 00:26:19,795 But for the detective, it grows. 381 00:26:19,926 --> 00:26:24,104 And nothing is louder than the tick of the clock. 382 00:26:24,234 --> 00:26:28,021 - Detectives were trying everything possible. 383 00:26:28,151 --> 00:26:30,545 Sometimes, you just have to have a lucky break. 384 00:26:30,676 --> 00:26:32,765 [suspenseful music] 385 00:26:32,895 --> 00:26:35,898 - At that time, one of our investigators 386 00:26:36,029 --> 00:26:39,293 had just returned from a new training 387 00:26:39,423 --> 00:26:43,645 about what is called a Google geofence. 388 00:26:43,776 --> 00:26:46,953 - We were the first homicide case in California 389 00:26:47,083 --> 00:26:49,390 that it was used. 390 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,741 Geofencing is a invisible line 391 00:26:52,872 --> 00:26:55,570 drawn around a particular area. 392 00:26:55,701 --> 00:26:57,877 It will pick up on any electronic device 393 00:26:58,007 --> 00:26:59,661 with a signal that comes in there. 394 00:26:59,792 --> 00:27:04,100 We can detect that phone number and when that device 395 00:27:04,231 --> 00:27:06,973 entered that space. 396 00:27:07,103 --> 00:27:10,541 - That night, on Nancy's property, 397 00:27:10,672 --> 00:27:12,805 there were guests with cell phones 398 00:27:12,935 --> 00:27:17,418 in the large house and in the small house next to Nancy's. 399 00:27:17,548 --> 00:27:20,943 - We have to be extremely precise. 400 00:27:21,074 --> 00:27:24,904 - So we put a little fence around Nancy's living area. 401 00:27:25,034 --> 00:27:28,559 - A 12-foot radius was its accuracy. 402 00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:32,738 - And we asked for all the cell phones 403 00:27:32,868 --> 00:27:38,657 that were in that area during the time frame of our crime. 404 00:27:38,787 --> 00:27:42,312 And we finally get the data back. 405 00:27:42,443 --> 00:27:44,967 - We have a device that was there 406 00:27:45,098 --> 00:27:46,621 at 1:00 in the morning time frame. 407 00:27:46,752 --> 00:27:49,319 It's not Nancy's device. 408 00:27:49,450 --> 00:27:53,106 So who owns that cell phone? 409 00:27:53,236 --> 00:27:55,717 - It's kind of like a fingerprint. 410 00:27:55,848 --> 00:27:57,414 - So now we get a search warrant 411 00:27:57,545 --> 00:28:01,375 to figure out what that device is and who owns it. 412 00:28:01,505 --> 00:28:03,072 - I am in the courthouse. 413 00:28:03,203 --> 00:28:05,858 And my co-lead investigator, 414 00:28:05,988 --> 00:28:08,643 he says it's Carlo. 415 00:28:08,774 --> 00:28:10,210 I said, what? 416 00:28:10,340 --> 00:28:12,212 Who's Carlo? 417 00:28:12,342 --> 00:28:17,173 They said, that guy you talked to in July, the painter. 418 00:28:17,304 --> 00:28:20,307 And I said, are you kidding me? 419 00:28:20,437 --> 00:28:22,831 ♪ 420 00:28:26,313 --> 00:28:28,402 [pensive music] 421 00:28:28,924 --> 00:28:30,273 - When we think of mysteries, 422 00:28:30,404 --> 00:28:32,493 we imagine the clues are tangible-- 423 00:28:32,623 --> 00:28:36,976 a footprint, a torn letter, a motive whispered in the dark. 424 00:28:37,106 --> 00:28:40,457 But often the best leads can't be touched or seen-- 425 00:28:40,588 --> 00:28:43,765 a ping, a digital echo. 426 00:28:43,896 --> 00:28:46,681 The days of solving crimes in the pages of an old case file 427 00:28:46,812 --> 00:28:48,422 are behind us. 428 00:28:48,552 --> 00:28:51,991 And now everything depends on the data left behind. 429 00:28:52,121 --> 00:28:56,909 Sometimes it's the only voice a victim has left. 430 00:29:01,174 --> 00:29:05,526 - When I started out my business, I was young. 431 00:29:05,656 --> 00:29:10,183 I was painting a home, and I needed help. 432 00:29:10,313 --> 00:29:13,099 Carlo told me that a couple of years before, 433 00:29:13,229 --> 00:29:16,450 he had come to Paso Robles from Mexico. 434 00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:19,975 He got married and became a citizen. 435 00:29:20,106 --> 00:29:22,064 And now Carlo was working in the vineyards, 436 00:29:22,195 --> 00:29:25,328 and he was unhappy. 437 00:29:25,459 --> 00:29:28,592 So from there on out, he worked for me, 438 00:29:28,723 --> 00:29:32,074 and I trained him to be a painter. 439 00:29:32,205 --> 00:29:36,905 He was a really good worker, eager to learn. 440 00:29:37,036 --> 00:29:41,083 - He just had a nice, mellow demeanor. 441 00:29:41,214 --> 00:29:42,650 There was times there 442 00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:45,087 where Carlo and I worked solely together 443 00:29:45,218 --> 00:29:48,830 for a long period where we were doing a lot of remodels 444 00:29:48,961 --> 00:29:51,180 for a builder here locally. 445 00:29:51,311 --> 00:29:53,748 He was just always a good guy. 446 00:29:53,879 --> 00:29:56,055 - He'd be there from sunup to sundown. 447 00:29:56,185 --> 00:29:59,536 And we developed a relationship. 448 00:29:59,667 --> 00:30:00,886 We would golf. 449 00:30:01,016 --> 00:30:04,193 He spent time with my in-laws. 450 00:30:04,324 --> 00:30:06,848 He spent time with my family. 451 00:30:06,979 --> 00:30:08,981 - We did criminal histories. 452 00:30:09,111 --> 00:30:10,069 He had none. 453 00:30:10,199 --> 00:30:11,766 - We found out that 454 00:30:11,897 --> 00:30:14,421 his marriage was maybe a little troubled 455 00:30:14,551 --> 00:30:18,120 but nothing that really provided any red flags. 456 00:30:18,251 --> 00:30:22,255 But we have the geofence putting him 457 00:30:22,385 --> 00:30:25,780 on the property for two hours. 458 00:30:25,911 --> 00:30:28,000 What is Carlo Fuentes doing out there 459 00:30:28,130 --> 00:30:31,917 at 1:30 in the morning when Nancy goes missing? 460 00:30:32,047 --> 00:30:36,573 - We followed him, trying to get a DNA sample. 461 00:30:36,704 --> 00:30:41,491 Him and his wife had lunch, and he left a bottle of Coke. 462 00:30:41,622 --> 00:30:46,148 We got his DNA from the Coke bottle. 463 00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:50,761 The bloody handprint on the pillow on Nancy's bed 464 00:30:50,892 --> 00:30:53,677 had male DNA. 465 00:30:53,808 --> 00:30:58,117 They were able to determine that it was most likely 466 00:30:58,247 --> 00:31:00,728 Carlo Fuentes' DNA. 467 00:31:00,859 --> 00:31:03,644 [suspenseful music] 468 00:31:03,774 --> 00:31:05,864 ♪ 469 00:31:05,994 --> 00:31:08,431 - Finding the smoking gun is one thing. 470 00:31:08,562 --> 00:31:12,305 Finding the hand that fired it, that's the hard part. 471 00:31:12,435 --> 00:31:16,309 The clue leads you to a name, a face, 472 00:31:16,439 --> 00:31:18,746 a life that doesn't fit. 473 00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:22,358 And that's when you know the weapon is still out there, 474 00:31:22,489 --> 00:31:26,885 waiting for its true master to be unmasked. 475 00:31:27,015 --> 00:31:29,409 - We have the DNA. 476 00:31:29,539 --> 00:31:32,847 We have the geofence. 477 00:31:32,978 --> 00:31:35,850 But if that's all you have, 478 00:31:35,981 --> 00:31:37,286 is that proof beyond a reasonable doubt 479 00:31:37,417 --> 00:31:39,898 that a homicide occurred? 480 00:31:40,028 --> 00:31:41,769 We don't have a body. 481 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:43,510 We have no idea what occurred. 482 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,034 Maybe she's in a basement somewhere. 483 00:31:46,165 --> 00:31:49,037 What we know is that he's a suspect. 484 00:31:49,168 --> 00:31:50,386 Let's talk to him as a suspect. 485 00:31:55,130 --> 00:31:56,392 - Yeah. 486 00:31:56,523 --> 00:31:59,091 - In an interview like this, 487 00:31:59,221 --> 00:32:01,789 you have to build a lot of rapport. 488 00:32:04,270 --> 00:32:06,837 - Nobody's gonna tell you anything 489 00:32:06,968 --> 00:32:08,230 if they don't like you. 490 00:32:20,155 --> 00:32:23,767 - We just started collecting information from him. 491 00:32:23,898 --> 00:32:26,814 We spent an hour just talking. 492 00:32:39,522 --> 00:32:41,263 - We brought up Nancy a little bit. 493 00:32:54,450 --> 00:32:57,062 - And then when we felt like it was the right time, 494 00:32:57,192 --> 00:32:58,628 we asked him... 495 00:34:27,761 --> 00:34:30,677 ♪ 496 00:34:37,335 --> 00:34:40,426 [suspenseful music] 497 00:34:40,556 --> 00:34:45,300 - Carlo presumably knows what happened and where Nancy is. 498 00:34:45,431 --> 00:34:50,088 So they have to figure out an approach to get him to talk. 499 00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:31,640 ♪ 500 00:37:31,771 --> 00:37:34,382 - He smothered her with the pillow, 501 00:37:34,513 --> 00:37:39,082 rolls her up in blankets, carries her out to his truck. 502 00:38:03,716 --> 00:38:09,374 - The Carrizo Plains has a lot of animal activity. 503 00:38:09,504 --> 00:38:10,853 There's wild pigs, 504 00:38:10,984 --> 00:38:14,901 there's coyotes, birds, turkey buzzards. 505 00:38:19,035 --> 00:38:25,041 - It took a while, but finally I see these rocks 506 00:38:25,172 --> 00:38:27,479 on the side of this hill. 507 00:38:27,609 --> 00:38:30,569 And I see some bones. 508 00:38:30,699 --> 00:38:33,833 And I look up and see her skull. 509 00:38:33,963 --> 00:38:34,921 She's there. 510 00:38:35,051 --> 00:38:37,576 [pensive music] 511 00:38:37,706 --> 00:38:39,447 ♪ 512 00:38:39,578 --> 00:38:42,189 - Because the dental was still there, 513 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,323 we were able to confirm that it was Nancy. 514 00:38:47,586 --> 00:38:50,328 - Although it didn't bring Nancy back, 515 00:38:50,458 --> 00:38:54,244 at least the family, they know what happened. 516 00:38:54,375 --> 00:38:58,988 ♪ 517 00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:03,819 - It was closure, and it was sadness. 518 00:39:03,950 --> 00:39:05,430 Because I think there's a little piece of you 519 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,170 that always hopes that they're somewhere, 520 00:39:07,301 --> 00:39:10,609 that they're gonna come walking in the door. 521 00:39:10,739 --> 00:39:12,785 Sorry. 522 00:39:12,915 --> 00:39:16,528 I'm just thinking about what she had to endure 523 00:39:16,658 --> 00:39:18,878 and why someone would do that to her. 524 00:39:22,011 --> 00:39:25,319 - The confession, it's overwhelming evidence 525 00:39:25,450 --> 00:39:26,668 of his guilt. 526 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,847 - Mr. Fuentes Flores was charged 527 00:39:31,978 --> 00:39:36,330 with first-degree murder committed during a rape. 528 00:39:36,461 --> 00:39:39,594 - Carlo wanted to plead guilty from the get-go. 529 00:39:39,725 --> 00:39:44,643 He did not want to put his family through a trial. 530 00:39:44,773 --> 00:39:49,038 And one thing that has always surprised me 531 00:39:49,169 --> 00:39:52,868 is that he did this with no criminal history. 532 00:40:06,491 --> 00:40:08,188 [soft music] 533 00:40:08,318 --> 00:40:11,931 - That evening, her daughter told me this, 534 00:40:12,061 --> 00:40:15,891 that Nancy had called her and said the bridal party, 535 00:40:16,022 --> 00:40:18,981 they arrived, they got their goodie bags. 536 00:40:19,112 --> 00:40:20,853 Everything is in control. 537 00:40:20,983 --> 00:40:23,464 I'm gonna make it an early night, 538 00:40:23,595 --> 00:40:26,511 and I'll see you tomorrow. 539 00:40:26,641 --> 00:40:32,212 And how quick her whole life changed, 540 00:40:32,342 --> 00:40:35,041 and how quick the family's life changed 541 00:40:35,171 --> 00:40:38,131 because they'll be forever scarred by this. 542 00:40:38,261 --> 00:40:41,917 I would hope that this case will spare this 543 00:40:42,048 --> 00:40:43,441 from happening again. 544 00:40:45,834 --> 00:40:47,793 - She was part of the community. 545 00:40:47,923 --> 00:40:49,142 She had touched a lot of people. 546 00:40:51,579 --> 00:40:54,452 She's got her son, her daughter, her grandkids 547 00:40:54,582 --> 00:40:58,630 that'll keep her memory alive. 548 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,980 - I think about her a lot. 549 00:41:01,110 --> 00:41:04,766 I will always remember Nancy's giving spirit. 550 00:41:04,897 --> 00:41:09,031 She was just-- she was light and love. 551 00:41:09,162 --> 00:41:14,689 ♪ 552 00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:17,344 - Many of us imagine crossing that line 553 00:41:17,475 --> 00:41:19,302 and how we'd get away with it. 554 00:41:19,433 --> 00:41:23,176 Most quickly dismiss the idea, but there are those who don't. 555 00:41:23,306 --> 00:41:25,047 They slip into double lives. 556 00:41:25,178 --> 00:41:26,745 And the thing about a double life, 557 00:41:26,875 --> 00:41:29,530 as the characters in my books know all too well, 558 00:41:29,661 --> 00:41:32,751 is that secrets and lies don't stay buried for long. 559 00:41:32,881 --> 00:41:36,885 And by the time they surface, it's too late. 560 00:41:37,016 --> 00:41:40,019 Guilt is torture forever. 561 00:41:40,149 --> 00:41:42,108 But so is grief. 562 00:41:42,238 --> 00:41:44,023 Just ask the families. 563 00:41:44,153 --> 00:41:45,894 I'm Harlan Coben. 564 00:41:46,025 --> 00:41:48,636 Good night. 565 00:41:48,767 --> 00:41:51,596 [dramatic music] 566 00:41:51,726 --> 00:41:58,646 ♪ 567 00:42:09,744 --> 00:42:12,617 [suspenseful music] 568 00:42:12,747 --> 00:42:19,667 ♪ 42678

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