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[Wayne] People get kidnapped.
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People get takenagainst their will.
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That is not that uncommon,
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but for it to happento a couple
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like the Van Oostens,
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who have never wronged anyone
is a terrible feeling.
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How does something
like this happen,
especially in our little town?
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You could see footage
of two people on a mattress
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in a room that had
no windows or doors.
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-[FEDS speaking]
-[suspect speaking]
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When they said, "Do you know
anybody you can think of
that would do this?"
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[suspect speaking]
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Never would have thought.
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There was definitely
an understanding that
kidnappings don't end well.
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[police siren wailing]
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[Wayne] The levelof depravity they'resubjected to,
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it's unlike anything
I've ever seen,
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and I hope I never seen
anything like it again.
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I'm Special Agent
Wayne Jackowski.
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I'm Special Agent Andy Kehren.
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[intense music playing]
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[narrator] This is FEDS.
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[police siren wailing]
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[dramatic music playing]
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[Amy] I grew up on a farmoutside of Erie.
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It's very quiet, peaceful.
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My brother and I
were able to
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run and do what kids do
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when there'sa wide open space.
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Erie is a small rural townin central Illinois,
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about two hourswest of Chicago.
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Farms just abouteverywhere that you look.
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Everybody knows everybody.
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It really isa great place to live.
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My parents own their own
businesses for many years.
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My mom, Connie,had a flooring store.
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My dad, Larry, owned his ownpest control business.
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They were very respected
in the community.
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Both businessesreally thrived.
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When I got pregnant
with my daughter,
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I took overthe flooring store.
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My brother, Jeffwasn't really interested
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in taking overthe pest control business
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because he hada heart for farming.
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So, my dad sold his business.
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We didn't know how muchhe sold the business for,
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but it was enoughto have investments
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to live on and retire.
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They were able to do
a little bit of traveling
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and get very activein their church,
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teaching Sunday school,
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helping out with differentcommunity groups.
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When my brother Jeff and I
started having our own kids,
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they reallystepped into action,
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helped whenever they could.
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They were always there,
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just giving uswhatever we needed.
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We were blessed
to have such great parents.
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[Amy]
The day that it happened,
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I was between my houseand the school
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to pick up my daughter.
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My brother called
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and he was telling me,
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"Mom and dad were abducted."
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And I thought that somebodyis pranking you
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or that's not funny.
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It's not a funny joke.
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But he kept telling me,
"No, they told me that..."
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We have a friend who is in
the local police department
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that called my brotherand he said,
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"They've got your momon camera
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and we think that
she has been kidnapped."
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It was complete disbelief.
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I could barely breathe.
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There was a lot of chaos
in my head
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of how could this be?
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I had to get off the phonewith my brother
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because the police
was calling me,
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asking me to meet them.
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[police siren wailing]
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I'm Sheriff John Booker,
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but at the time,
I was service lieutenant
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for the Whiteside County
Sheriff's Office.
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When we got the phone callof a possible kidnaping
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at the bank, I thought,
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"There's no way
a kidnaping happened
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in the Whiteside County."
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We don't have crimes like that
that happen.
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That's in the bigger areas.
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But the bank has videothat runs the whole time,
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so when we arrived,
we were able to find out
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that Connie Van Oosten
had came into the bank
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and asked the teller
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for a large amount of money,
$350,000.
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But then she gave a noteto the teller
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saying her and her husband
were held at gunpoint
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against their will
and they needed help.
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She had a church bulletin
in her purse
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and that's what
she wrote the note on.
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I can't even imagine being
under that sort of duress
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and even havingthe frame of mind
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to think of doing
something like that.
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[John] The bank personneltried to talk Connie
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into staying at the bank.
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But Connie told thebank peopleif she didn't leave,
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that she was afraidher husband would be killed.
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The bank agreed
to write the check
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and give that to Connie
because they didn't want
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anything to happen to her
or her husband.
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You can see Connieleave the bank,
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walk down the sidewalk.
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The bank personnelstarted making phone calls
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to the police authorities
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to try and get some help.
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Through the video,we were able to see
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the car parked down the road,
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Connie gets inside the vehicle
before it takes off.
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We can't see license plate.
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We have no idea wherethis vehicle traveled to.
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[Amy] There wasa little bit of relief
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knowing that
she was still alive
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at that moment,
fear, obviously,
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that we didn't know
where my dad was.
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Were they separated?
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Was he even still with us?
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[intense music playing]
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[John] You always wannacheck out the residence
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of the victims of crimes
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to see what might have been
going on at their house.
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When our deputies arrivedat the Van Oostens' house,
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their son, Jeff, was alreadyon scene at that residence.
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Jeff said he's been awayfor a few days,
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so he hasn't talkedto his parentsin a little while.
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The deputies conducted
a search of the residence.
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They were able to finda window in the basement
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that appeared to be broke
from the outside in.
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They were alsoable to find confetti
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that would come outof a taser.
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When tasers deployed,
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it shoots out
little pieces of paper
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and that was
around the area as well.
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As they looked around,they were able to find
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a few spots
where drops of blood
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had fell on to the carpet.
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We are realizing we have
a full-blown kidnaping case.
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So, we reached out
to our federal agency,
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the FBI out of Rockford.
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My name is Wayne Jackowski.
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I'm an FBI Special Agent.
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I work at the RockfordResident Agency,
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a smaller satellite officeof Chicago.
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One of our main roles
is to support
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the local agencies
within a 10-county area.
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Most of which is rural,
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smaller law enforcementdepartments
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who have limited resources,
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when things happen
that maybe are not something
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that they can handle
on their own.
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As I remember it that day,I was in the office
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the majority of the day.
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Ended up arriving at home
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and sat down
to have dinner with my wife,
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and then a call came.
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The call is coming fromthe FBI office in Chicago,
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which doesn't give you
a good feeling
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because you know something bad
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has probably happened
or is happening
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and you're gonna need
to deal with it.
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When I answered the call,
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I was told that the Whiteside
County Sheriff's Department
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was looking into a matter
involving two people
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who were believed to be
missing
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and that they might need
assistance.
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Once the informationis shared,
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that Connie Van Oostenhad gone into the bank,
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that made everything
very clear
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and very real, very quickly.
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With my experience,when someone is kidnaped,
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and there is a purpose,
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once that purposeis fulfilled,
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something bad happens
to the people
who have been kidnaped.
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And knowing thatMrs. Van Oosten
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went into the bankand got the money,
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to me right away,
struck a nerve
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because the kidnapergot what they were after,
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so time is not on our side.
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[John] Talked with the FBI.
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No one was convinced
we were gonna find
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the Van Oostens alive.
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[Wayne] So it drivesthe urgency level way up.
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It is incredibly stressful.
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I remember getting a knot
in my stomach at that point,
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thinking, we have to
figure this out.
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[dramatic music playing]
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Whiteside County
don't have a lot
of resources to draw from,
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so we quickly determinedthat we would need
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to bring in as manyother agents as we could.
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My name is Andy Kehren.
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I'm a Special Agent
with the FBI.
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Not all agentsare gonna tell you
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that they wantedto be an agent
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when they were a kid,
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but I was recruited
in the FBI by Tom Clancy.
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I read... I read
these Tom Clancy novels.
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I wanted to be in
the FBI or the CIA.
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I wanted to catch terrorists
and bank robbers,
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and it was gonna be awesome.
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And it just happened to be
that my dream came true.
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At the time of the case,
I was the newest agent
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at the FBI
in the Rockford office.
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I had the worst vehiclethat our office had.
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I was driving a minivan.
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I didn't mind
because I was an agent
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and I was excited about it.
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This was my firstkidnaping case,
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so I have a million questions
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racing through my mind
as I'm driving there.
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But with all the experiencein the office,
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those guys hadworked kidnappings
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and there was definitelyan understanding that
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they might already be killed.
You know what I mean?
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Like it might already...
It might be too late,
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you know, even right now.
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It might not be,
but it might be.
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In fact, it probably is.
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And so, we're just tryingto get to the bottom of it
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as fast as we can,
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because if there's any chance,
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we only get it if we're fast.
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Got to the sheriff's
department.
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Walking in tothe investigations area,
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I would describe it
best as a little chaotic.
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I heard that
the FBI had come in,
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clinging on toa little bit of hope there,
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that if we havethe FBI covering this,
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that we've got to
find something.
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[Wayne]
As well as the other agents,
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people kept coming
through the door.
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Most were verysmall town departments,
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but they're sending
resources from everywhere
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to try to pitch in and help.
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For all of us to get
on the same page quickly
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was extremely important.
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At that point, generally,
the FBI form a command post,
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central base of operations
were any information
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about that case is shared.
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There will be whiteboardsthat will show
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what cars are of interest,
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persons are of interest.
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Early on,
everybody is a suspect, I...
I'll just put it that way.
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You don't know exactly
who you're dealing with.
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Not that many people
would likely know
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that they have
that kind of money available,
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so there are important peoplewho need to be interviewed,
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such as their children.
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The FBI explained that
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we're gonna have to do
a tough thing
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and interview the
Van Oostens' daughter, Amy,
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son, Jeff,
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and ask them questions
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that they're probably
not gonna like.
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[intense music playing]
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The interviews were tough
to go through,
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but it had to be done.
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More interrogation
was done to Jeff than Amy,
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because of Jeff was awayfor a few days
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and, he was at the housebefore the deputies.
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Knowing that Mrs. Van Oosten
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went into the bank
and obtained $350,000,
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money seemed to be
the motivation.
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[John] Our detectiveswere asking Jeff
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tough financial questions,
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"Did you borrow moneyfrom your parents?
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Were you into
financial trouble?"
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At that time, I was like,
whatever you have to ask me,
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ask me and I will tell you
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as truthfully as I can
what is going on.
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They asked me some questionsabout how I had just flown in
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from Washington getting backfrom a business trip,
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and how when I got the call,
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my initial reaction was to
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get up right away
and come here to the house.
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They asked me some questions
about my finances and how I...
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You know,
how I was financially,
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and got down to...
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Well, basically,
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if I wanted money
from my parents,
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I would ask them
and they would
give it to me, so...
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The investigators
that conducted the interviews
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did not believe Amy or Jeff
had any involvement
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in Larry and Connie'sdisappearance.
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[Jeff] That's kindawhen everything ended,
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as far as the questioning.
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The thought of me
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ever doing something like that
to my parents would just...
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It makes you
sick to your stomach.
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But you've got to thinkabout the bigger picture here
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and if they have to
ask a question,
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they're doing their job,
whatever.
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Let's just keep moving.
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[police siren wailing]
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[Wayne]
It's getting frustrating.
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You're hoping
the light bulb's gonna go on
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and somebody is gonna be
a clear cut suspect,
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and that didn't happen.
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But it's a constant process.
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What's the next lead
that needs to be handled?
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Based on video surveillanceoutside of the bank,
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we're able to determinethat the vehicle
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that Mrs. Van Oostenwas driven away in,
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it's an older, like
early 1990s Chevy Caprice,
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and that's a rarer vehicle.
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There aren't a lot of thoseleft on the road,
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especially
in small town America.
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But when we put the vehicle
in our computer system,
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nothing showed up.
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[Wayne] So for a caselike this,
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if people who are missingand in danger,
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the FBI has the ability
to set up a tip line.
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So, any person that believesthey may have information,
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can call the number
1-800-CALL-FBI
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and it goes in to our national
call center in West Virginia.
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So, the video, it wasdistributed to the media
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and information startedcoming in the command post
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through the FBI tip linefrom anyone who thought
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they saw a similar vehicle.
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I didn't like
sitting in the command post.
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I didn't like it.
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I felt like I was
sitting on my hands.
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But then we got this lead.
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Somebody says
that they saw the vehicle
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in one of the bigger towns
in this area, Geneseo.
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I finally got the chanceto chase down this lead.
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I took it and I was excited to
get out of the command post,
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and I didn't intend to go back
unless I was told to.
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[laughs]
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[Andy] Geneseo, which isa small Midwest town
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with a handfulof gas stations
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and a grocery store.
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We went there,
we did the interview.
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The person told us the car
was heading northbound,
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and so I just startedheading down that road
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and there was a hospital
right by the road,
I was like, "Oh, perfect."
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The hospital might
have security footage,
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but we didn't see the car.
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There was pressure.
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There was pressure on us
to perform.
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[Wayne]
In the back of your mind,
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you know the clockis not your friend.
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But as an FBI agent,
we don't give up,
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especially not
for something like this.
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Early on,we're trying to process
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a lot of informationvery quickly.
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You have to sit back down
in the command post
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with the people
you've been working it with
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and see if wemissed something,
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because it is easy to do.
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We started to go back over
what we currently knew
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and what the details
were surrounding those things,
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which included
Mrs. Van Oosten's
visit into the bank.
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We started to reexamine thattrip back inside the bank
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in a greater detail.
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Mrs. Van Oostenwent inside the bank,
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approached the teller counterand asked for a $350,000.
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But thenthe question was asked,
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what form of money
did she get it?
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Was it a wire transfer?
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Was it a check? What was it?
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And we're toldit was specificallya cashier's check.
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The bells go off
at that point.
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My questionwas immediately asked,
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well, who wasthe check made out to?
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Because somebody needs
to cash it at some point,
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because if they can't,
all of this is for nothing.
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We asked the bank to providea copy of the check.
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Could we see it?
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At which point somebodyproduced a copy of it,
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which was very exciting
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because the checkwas made out
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to an actual company,
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The Store Edge, LLC.
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So the knot in my stomachwas turning into more
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like a jittery excitement
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because this is
the first thing
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that we really feel
is a good, solid lead
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that we can run down.
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[phone ringing]
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So as we were lookinginto the individuals
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associated with
The Store Edge, LLC,
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we're also looking into
their background,
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things that are related
to them, any vehicles.
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At that point, we noticed
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that there wasa older model Chevy Caprice
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that could matchthe description
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of the one at the bank,
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registeredto one of the individuals
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tied intothe Store Edge, LLC.
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That individual's name...
was Chad Schipper.
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That was a totallynew name to us,
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but one that we had torun down very quickly.
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00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,367
Can we bring a connection
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00:17:42,433 --> 00:17:43,634
between he
and the Van Oostens?
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[John] We reached outto the family
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trying to get some information
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about Chad Schipper.
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00:17:51,467 --> 00:17:52,867
[Jeff] When you grow upin a small town,
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you know who everybody is,
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but it's not him,
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00:17:57,166 --> 00:17:59,133
you know, it couldn't
be possibly be him.
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00:18:02,567 --> 00:18:03,867
Never.
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Never.
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I've known him...
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since we were in
Sunday school together,
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you know, little five, six,
seven-years-old, probably.
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Growing up, he was always
a year ahead of me in school,
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from elementary
to high school.
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00:18:21,867 --> 00:18:24,467
We didn't runin the same crowd,
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but if I saw him,I'd say hi to him
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and maybe talk to hima little bit.
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He was valedictorian
of his class.
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Growing up, I don't want
to admit that I looked up
to him, but I'm like, "Man,
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that guy is living the life."
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He's intelligent and smart.
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You look atsomebody like that
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00:18:45,066 --> 00:18:46,867
and you're like,
"Well, you know,
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there's somebody that's
got their act together."
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[Amy] Families wentto the same church,
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we were in the sameyouth groups.
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00:18:53,066 --> 00:18:55,266
He could whip out
those Bible verses
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in Sunday school
like nobody else, you know,
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just would have never expected
anybody from the community
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ever, let alone somebody
that we went to church with.
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00:19:06,900 --> 00:19:08,133
Never.
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[Wayne] The next step was,where does Mr. Schipper live?
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Where does he work?
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Does he havea financial background?
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00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,066
And more importantly,
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where could he possibly have
the Van Oostens,
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if he has them?
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[Jeff] Several years priorto this,
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I remember having
a conversation with my dad.
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At that time, dad wasan elder at the church
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and Chad was an elderat the church.
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And Chad was starting outas a financial advisor.
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I remember dad, he's like,
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00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,367
"Well, I'll give him a shot
because, you know,
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we go to the same church."
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00:19:44,567 --> 00:19:46,667
You should be able to trust
somebody like that.
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00:19:47,367 --> 00:19:49,767
But dad looked at
Chad's proposal
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and he's like,
"This is not a benefit
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for me and my finances."
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[Amy] They had mentionedthat
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they had met
with him those year...
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Two years prior,
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so he knew about the moneyand the investments.
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Complete, just, shock.
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00:20:14,867 --> 00:20:16,967
So as we continue to look
into Mr. Schipper,
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we determinedhe would likely know
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that they have that
kind of money available.
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And we determinedhe had several properties
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that he was associated with.
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At least two residences
were in Geneseo, Illinois.
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[Andy] I got a call fromthe command post saying,
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"We think we mighthave figured out
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who the subject is.
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We're all heading
to some little small town
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called Geneseo."
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And I was like, perfect,
we're already there.
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We went to oneof the addresses
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that was tied to the subject.
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It was a big house.
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00:20:51,033 --> 00:20:54,066
It had, you know,at least a four-car garage.
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00:20:55,767 --> 00:20:58,266
We're moving
around this house.
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We were trying to stickto the shadows
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of the treesand things like that.
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00:21:03,667 --> 00:21:05,567
We're trying
to find probable cause.
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00:21:05,567 --> 00:21:07,567
Anything in the premisesthat suggests
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that there's kidnappedpeople.
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00:21:11,166 --> 00:21:13,266
But as we looked aroundthe property,
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there was no reason to think
that they were there.
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00:21:16,166 --> 00:21:20,266
We'd all had loved to justgone into the house,
482
00:21:20,266 --> 00:21:21,867
but we can't just enter
people's residence
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unless we have probable cause
to go in.
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[Andy] Once we figured outwe didn't have any
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probable cause tothink that the victims
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are at that address,
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00:21:34,133 --> 00:21:36,266
at that point,
it was a game of surveillance,
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00:21:36,266 --> 00:21:37,467
where you're gonna,sit and watch,
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00:21:37,533 --> 00:21:38,867
and wait for anythingthat would add
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00:21:38,867 --> 00:21:40,667
to our probable cause.
491
00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:43,667
It was a lull.
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00:21:43,667 --> 00:21:44,867
There was nothing going on.
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00:21:44,867 --> 00:21:46,567
Surveillance is boring anyway
494
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and it's especially boring
in rural Illinois.
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00:21:49,900 --> 00:21:51,767
It was frustratingbecause we knew
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00:21:51,767 --> 00:21:54,166
that the Van Oostenswere good people...
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00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,166
but everyone kinda knows,
498
00:21:57,233 --> 00:21:59,066
like, these rarely
have happy endings.
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00:22:00,100 --> 00:22:02,367
We're just sitting herehoping for something,
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00:22:02,433 --> 00:22:04,166
some type of probable cause
501
00:22:04,166 --> 00:22:06,967
and we're probably
not gonna get it
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00:22:07,033 --> 00:22:08,867
because it's 1:00in the morning
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in rural Illinois.
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[John] It was getting latein the night.
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We had all worked all day,
506
00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:22,467
but none of us
were ready to quit.
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00:22:23,867 --> 00:22:27,367
We had deputiesat Van Oostens' house,
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in case anyone would come back
to that residence.
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00:22:30,266 --> 00:22:32,367
One of our deputies radioed.
510
00:22:32,867 --> 00:22:35,066
[deputy speaking]
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[woman speaking]
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[deputy speaking]
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[woman speaking]
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[Wayne] We hear acrossthe radio something
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00:22:46,867 --> 00:22:49,266
to the effect of,"I saw the car,
516
00:22:49,333 --> 00:22:51,066
this Chevy Caprice,"
517
00:22:51,133 --> 00:22:54,266
which has been a car
of interest from earlier on.
518
00:22:54,333 --> 00:22:56,066
That vehiclehad been spotted.
519
00:22:56,133 --> 00:22:58,166
[John] The deputy wasable to get behind it,
520
00:22:58,166 --> 00:23:00,767
and then attempted to make
a traffic stop on it.
521
00:23:00,767 --> 00:23:03,967
[intense music playing]
522
00:23:14,700 --> 00:23:17,734
[deputy speaking]
523
00:23:18,266 --> 00:23:20,634
[woman speaking]
524
00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:23,667
[Wayne] We're listeningto the radio traffic.
525
00:23:23,734 --> 00:23:27,567
[deputy speaking]
526
00:23:27,567 --> 00:23:28,767
[Wayne] I'm in a car chase.
527
00:23:28,834 --> 00:23:30,867
I'm chasing the car,
now I tried to stop it
528
00:23:30,934 --> 00:23:32,100
and it sped away.
529
00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:34,100
[police siren wailing]
530
00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:38,266
[deputy speaking]
531
00:23:38,333 --> 00:23:40,367
All of a sudden, you get
that spark and it's back.
532
00:23:40,433 --> 00:23:44,266
This is the actual carthat she was in.
533
00:23:44,333 --> 00:23:45,834
That's good.
That's a good lead.
534
00:23:47,467 --> 00:23:50,433
[deputy speaking]
535
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,667
It sounds like, hey, maybe
they're onto something now.
536
00:23:53,667 --> 00:23:56,367
Maybe it's Mr. Schipper
and he's running,
537
00:23:56,433 --> 00:23:58,166
and there's a reason
why he's running.
538
00:23:59,266 --> 00:24:01,667
[deputy speaking]
539
00:24:01,734 --> 00:24:04,467
We had a good lead
and there's reason to think
540
00:24:04,467 --> 00:24:08,066
that it will lead
to the Van Oostens.
541
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,867
[deputy speaking]
542
00:24:10,934 --> 00:24:12,266
[woman speaking]
543
00:24:12,266 --> 00:24:16,000
We're holding the radio
trying to will the officer
544
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,066
to catch him,
545
00:24:17,066 --> 00:24:18,233
"Come on."
546
00:24:20,066 --> 00:24:23,934
[deputy speaking]
547
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,767
[Wayne] Things are happeningvery quickly.
548
00:24:25,767 --> 00:24:27,467
Every second
that you're waiting
549
00:24:27,467 --> 00:24:29,233
for what's gonna
happen next...
550
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,467
it's extremely exciting
551
00:24:31,467 --> 00:24:33,734
and incredibly painful
at the same time.
552
00:24:34,133 --> 00:24:37,834
[deputy speaking]
553
00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:39,767
[woman speaking]
554
00:24:39,767 --> 00:24:42,100
All of us were hoping
that the car chase would end
555
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:44,734
peacefully, slowly, and
that he would just pull over.
556
00:24:47,567 --> 00:24:50,133
And that the Van Oostenswould be alive and well
557
00:24:50,133 --> 00:24:51,834
maybe in the back unharmed.
558
00:24:53,166 --> 00:24:56,967
[deputy speaking]
559
00:24:56,967 --> 00:24:58,834
But that's not what happened.
560
00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:02,000
[police siren wailing]
561
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,433
[deputy speaking]
562
00:25:15,667 --> 00:25:19,533
[police siren wailing]
563
00:25:20,567 --> 00:25:23,000
Chad Schipper was the driver
of the vehicle.
564
00:25:23,934 --> 00:25:26,133
The deputies ordered him outat gunpoint,
565
00:25:26,133 --> 00:25:28,900
got him on the ground,cuffed him.
566
00:25:29,367 --> 00:25:31,266
[deputy speaking]
567
00:25:31,266 --> 00:25:33,467
[John] The other driverwas okay,
568
00:25:33,533 --> 00:25:36,233
only minor injuries,and was able to walk away.
569
00:25:36,967 --> 00:25:38,467
We're all on pins
and needles and just waiting
570
00:25:38,467 --> 00:25:41,467
for the next voice to come
across the radio to tell us
571
00:25:41,467 --> 00:25:44,567
anything that would help ease
our concerns.
572
00:25:44,634 --> 00:25:46,100
Are they with him?
573
00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:47,567
Are they alive?
574
00:25:47,634 --> 00:25:49,934
[deputy] Whiteside 324,can you advisehow many injuries?
575
00:25:51,834 --> 00:25:54,100
There was no one else
in the vehicle,
576
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:56,734
but we discovered a shovel,
577
00:25:56,734 --> 00:25:59,867
plastic sheeting, duct tape,
578
00:25:59,867 --> 00:26:03,734
a saw, which all to usindicated he was going
579
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,667
to put someone
in this plastic sheeting
580
00:26:05,667 --> 00:26:06,734
and bury them.
581
00:26:07,667 --> 00:26:10,567
They advised Chadwith his Miranda warnings
582
00:26:10,567 --> 00:26:13,100
before they started
asking questions.
583
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:15,734
The next bit of radio traffic
was Mr. Schipper
584
00:26:15,734 --> 00:26:17,567
is now acknowledging he knows
who the Van Oostens are
585
00:26:17,567 --> 00:26:20,467
and he is saying,
"I have them"
586
00:26:20,467 --> 00:26:22,934
and provides an actual
specific residence address,
587
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,667
which is one
we were already aware of.
588
00:26:26,467 --> 00:26:28,767
The address that we were
doing surveillance at
589
00:26:28,767 --> 00:26:32,066
was the address that was
chirped in over the radio.
590
00:26:32,567 --> 00:26:35,100
Probable cause is established.
591
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:37,233
We're going into the house.
592
00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:39,734
[intense music playing]
593
00:26:39,734 --> 00:26:42,333
[Andy] Everybody's movingtowards the door.
594
00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:46,667
There was breachingequipment available,
595
00:26:46,734 --> 00:26:48,834
but I kicked the door in
and it went in,
596
00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:50,133
and so we didn't even need it.
597
00:26:50,133 --> 00:26:52,166
[slams on door]
598
00:26:53,767 --> 00:26:55,133
[Wayne] There's a ladderpretty much right
599
00:26:55,133 --> 00:26:56,467
in the middle of our way,
600
00:26:56,533 --> 00:26:58,266
which doesn't really
make sense,
601
00:26:58,266 --> 00:27:00,767
doesn't really seem
to serve a purpose.
602
00:27:00,767 --> 00:27:03,166
We pair off and startedgoing room by room.
603
00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:08,667
It's a methodical search,but quickly at the same time.
604
00:27:11,266 --> 00:27:13,033
[Andy] The housewas the typical house
605
00:27:13,033 --> 00:27:15,734
you would see that wasunder construction.
606
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,033
There was saw dust
kinda all over.
607
00:27:18,967 --> 00:27:21,000
There was tools all over.
608
00:27:21,767 --> 00:27:24,166
And we go room by room,
we're not finding anything.
609
00:27:25,233 --> 00:27:28,233
[Andy] We cleared the upstairsa couple times...
610
00:27:28,233 --> 00:27:30,934
so we went downto the basement.
611
00:27:30,934 --> 00:27:33,734
There was a couple rooms,
we cleared those.
612
00:27:34,667 --> 00:27:35,934
[Wayne] We go throughthe entire house,
613
00:27:35,934 --> 00:27:38,066
we do not find any threat
614
00:27:38,066 --> 00:27:39,367
and more importantly
did not find
615
00:27:39,367 --> 00:27:40,266
the Van Oostens
616
00:27:40,266 --> 00:27:42,333
which was extremely
disappointing.
617
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,467
Everyone's like,
well, they must not be
618
00:27:44,467 --> 00:27:45,567
at this house.
619
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:50,867
[Wayne] We get done clearingthe house,
620
00:27:50,867 --> 00:27:54,166
but then we find something
that is extremely odd.
621
00:27:54,166 --> 00:27:57,867
On the floor in one ofthe rooms was a TV monitor.
622
00:27:57,867 --> 00:27:59,467
We didn't study it at firstbecause we're trying
623
00:27:59,467 --> 00:28:02,467
to clear the house,but looking at it closer,
624
00:28:02,467 --> 00:28:04,567
the TV monitor showed,appeared to be some type
625
00:28:04,567 --> 00:28:06,667
of a surveillance video feed.
626
00:28:09,266 --> 00:28:12,900
[Andy] You could see footageof two people...
627
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,734
on a mattress...
628
00:28:16,967 --> 00:28:19,567
in a room that had
no windows or doors.
629
00:28:20,500 --> 00:28:22,634
[Wayne] It couldbe the Van Oostens.
630
00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:25,333
And we're not surethat they're moving.
631
00:28:27,834 --> 00:28:30,467
We're fearful at that point,
they may not be alive.
632
00:28:32,367 --> 00:28:34,266
We circle together and said,
633
00:28:34,266 --> 00:28:35,834
"Where is this
video feed coming from?
634
00:28:35,834 --> 00:28:37,467
Could it be somewhere else?Is it here?
635
00:28:37,467 --> 00:28:39,734
And we're missing it."
636
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,367
There's just an overall
gut feeling,
637
00:28:41,433 --> 00:28:43,467
we still thinkthey could be here somewhere,
638
00:28:43,467 --> 00:28:45,367
but we need to go back
through this house,
639
00:28:45,367 --> 00:28:47,800
go through every closet,go through every cupboard,
640
00:28:48,467 --> 00:28:50,734
see if there is somethingwe missed.
641
00:28:52,834 --> 00:28:54,066
We get down into the basement.
642
00:28:57,166 --> 00:28:58,634
We cleared a second time...
643
00:29:00,767 --> 00:29:03,166
but there's something
in the back of my mind
644
00:29:03,166 --> 00:29:05,433
that says,
this basement's weird.
645
00:29:07,834 --> 00:29:10,233
Everyone's been in a basement.
646
00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:13,367
And a basementis almost always a rectangle,
647
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,300
but this one's not.
648
00:29:22,066 --> 00:29:24,567
There was a cornerof the basement
649
00:29:24,634 --> 00:29:25,734
that was unavailable.
650
00:29:27,367 --> 00:29:29,834
Pushing on this wall,this looks like
651
00:29:29,834 --> 00:29:32,934
it was pretty recentlypainted and sanded.
652
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,867
We were a short time awayfrom starting
653
00:29:35,867 --> 00:29:38,767
to fight our way through that
wall, and then we hear it,
654
00:29:38,767 --> 00:29:42,066
"Wayne, they found
something upstairs."
655
00:29:44,033 --> 00:29:45,467
[Wayne] I happened to belooking in a closet
656
00:29:45,467 --> 00:29:47,467
and there was a pieceof plywood on the floor.
657
00:29:47,467 --> 00:29:49,367
Something just told me to pick
up the piece of plywood
658
00:29:49,367 --> 00:29:52,567
and I picked it up,looked underneath,
659
00:29:52,567 --> 00:29:54,467
and I got the biggest
knot on my stomach
660
00:29:54,467 --> 00:29:57,233
from the whole investigation
leading up to that moment.
661
00:29:58,667 --> 00:30:01,767
There was a fortifiedsteel hatch.
662
00:30:01,767 --> 00:30:05,567
It was a solid steel door
in the floor,
663
00:30:05,567 --> 00:30:09,166
above where that area
of the basement would've been.
664
00:30:12,567 --> 00:30:14,867
[Wayne] It has a padlockon it.
665
00:30:14,867 --> 00:30:17,767
A very thick, heavy padlock.
666
00:30:17,767 --> 00:30:19,367
Another agent had
his breaching equipment,
667
00:30:19,433 --> 00:30:22,667
which included
a set of bolt cutters.
668
00:30:22,667 --> 00:30:24,266
I had the bolt cutters
and put it in there,
669
00:30:24,266 --> 00:30:27,867
and I squeezed as hard as
I could and I could not do it.
670
00:30:27,867 --> 00:30:29,567
So, what I ended up doingwas putting one side
671
00:30:29,567 --> 00:30:31,567
of the bolt cutters againstthe wall and I grabbed
672
00:30:31,567 --> 00:30:35,066
the other side with both hands
and broke it off that way.
673
00:30:38,667 --> 00:30:40,934
Reached down, lifted it up.
It was heavy.
674
00:30:41,934 --> 00:30:46,266
Push it open,a dark room underneath.
675
00:30:46,266 --> 00:30:48,667
[Wayne] The ladder thatwe encountered as soonas we made entry
676
00:30:48,734 --> 00:30:50,934
through the door
started making sense now.
677
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,467
[Andy] I'm looking downinto this room
678
00:30:54,467 --> 00:30:56,734
and I don't see much
because it's dark.
679
00:30:57,500 --> 00:30:59,367
[Wayne] Andy puts his feetinto the hole,
680
00:30:59,433 --> 00:31:01,567
starts to shimmy over.
681
00:31:01,567 --> 00:31:03,567
[Andy] I went to my elbowsjust dangling.
682
00:31:03,634 --> 00:31:05,133
There's no ground for me
to reach.
683
00:31:05,834 --> 00:31:07,133
Put his arms over
on each side,
684
00:31:07,133 --> 00:31:08,900
to the point he was
kinda just dangling.
685
00:31:10,266 --> 00:31:12,934
[Andy] At some point,you have to just let go,
686
00:31:12,934 --> 00:31:17,033
fall through the chasm
and land on the other side...
687
00:31:17,033 --> 00:31:18,667
and so I did.
688
00:31:19,834 --> 00:31:21,100
He had his arms
on either side,
689
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:22,266
and all of a sudden his arms
came up
690
00:31:22,266 --> 00:31:25,033
and he just plunged
into the hole and he's gone.
691
00:31:27,467 --> 00:31:29,467
[ominous music playing]
692
00:31:29,533 --> 00:31:32,400
I just brought my arms up
and fell it through the hole.
693
00:31:35,066 --> 00:31:36,934
It was just exactly
as you would think.
694
00:31:36,934 --> 00:31:40,300
It was an eight foot ceiling
and I landed on the ground.
695
00:31:42,834 --> 00:31:45,367
It was eerie, it was a room
696
00:31:45,367 --> 00:31:48,233
that had no doors or windows.
697
00:31:49,467 --> 00:31:51,834
There was a mattress
on the floor,
698
00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:53,300
it had some blankets.
699
00:31:56,867 --> 00:31:59,867
And that's where
we found them.
700
00:31:59,867 --> 00:32:03,066
[ominous music playing]
701
00:32:09,667 --> 00:32:12,333
[Connie] When Andy jumped
through the hole...
702
00:32:13,266 --> 00:32:15,166
he had a huge smile
on his face
703
00:32:15,166 --> 00:32:17,967
and just said,
they're fine, they're okay.
704
00:32:17,967 --> 00:32:20,667
[Andy] Larry and Conniewere good.
705
00:32:22,467 --> 00:32:26,867
They were very pleased
to have been recovered.
706
00:32:26,867 --> 00:32:28,734
They told us it was the FBI,
707
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,333
and, uh, that they were here
708
00:32:31,333 --> 00:32:33,233
to rescue us,
and that we were...
709
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:34,333
we were safe.
710
00:32:34,333 --> 00:32:38,567
So that was
a very joyful moment,
711
00:32:38,567 --> 00:32:40,867
but also one of,
712
00:32:40,867 --> 00:32:42,834
is this really happening?
713
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:46,033
You know, are we actually,
after all this, safe?
714
00:32:46,033 --> 00:32:47,734
I don't think we quit smiling
715
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,066
because, you know,
they were there.
716
00:32:50,066 --> 00:32:52,834
They did come,
they did come to rescue us.
717
00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:54,567
Connie gave me a big hug.
718
00:32:54,634 --> 00:32:56,367
Larry gave me a big hug.
719
00:32:56,367 --> 00:32:58,467
You could hear them
upstairs celebrating.
720
00:32:58,467 --> 00:33:01,033
"We found them.
We found them. They're okay."
721
00:33:02,166 --> 00:33:03,834
[Wayne] We put the ladder downin through the opening,
722
00:33:03,834 --> 00:33:06,266
and thenthe Van Oostens came out.
723
00:33:06,266 --> 00:33:08,934
To see them emerge
from a makeshift dungeon
724
00:33:08,934 --> 00:33:10,133
and to be okay
725
00:33:10,133 --> 00:33:12,934
was the most rewarding
feeling of my career.
726
00:33:13,667 --> 00:33:16,934
It was unbelievable,
except it happened.
727
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,934
It never happens
except it did.
728
00:33:21,667 --> 00:33:23,433
So, yeah.
729
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:29,667
[Jeff] When the police let meknow that they had found
730
00:33:29,667 --> 00:33:32,934
my parents,
I didn't know how to react.
731
00:33:32,934 --> 00:33:37,567
I didn't know how to...
Um, how to feel, really.
732
00:33:37,567 --> 00:33:39,567
I've never felt emotions
like that in my life.
733
00:33:39,567 --> 00:33:44,033
My brother was calling me
saying, we found them.
734
00:33:44,033 --> 00:33:47,033
Ripping into the driveway
and pounding on our door.
735
00:33:47,033 --> 00:33:51,100
So we were all able
to just hug.
736
00:33:53,266 --> 00:33:56,634
We were told that they wereat the hospital in Geneseo.
737
00:33:57,367 --> 00:34:00,667
Obviously,
just complete breakdown,
738
00:34:00,667 --> 00:34:04,567
relief, and almost angry
739
00:34:04,567 --> 00:34:06,467
because I wanted to know
740
00:34:06,467 --> 00:34:10,000
what he had done to her,
to them.
741
00:34:18,133 --> 00:34:20,233
[man speaking]
742
00:34:20,233 --> 00:34:21,934
[Chad speaking]
743
00:34:34,166 --> 00:34:36,934
[John] He was basicallya scammer, a swindler,
744
00:34:36,934 --> 00:34:40,066
and was taking money
from family members.
745
00:34:40,066 --> 00:34:42,467
He had no money to coverthe investments
746
00:34:42,467 --> 00:34:44,133
that he was supposedly doing.
747
00:34:44,133 --> 00:34:45,467
And that's why he decidedto act
748
00:34:45,467 --> 00:34:47,567
because he thought Connieand Larry had
749
00:34:47,567 --> 00:34:51,066
lots of money and could cover
the wrongdoings.
750
00:34:53,834 --> 00:34:57,000
[intense music playing]
751
00:34:57,967 --> 00:35:00,400
[Larry] It was aboutseven o'clock in the morning.
752
00:35:01,166 --> 00:35:02,533
I was sound asleep.
753
00:35:03,367 --> 00:35:04,934
I thought I was dreaming.
754
00:35:04,934 --> 00:35:08,133
I felt a presence
in the room...
755
00:35:09,467 --> 00:35:13,100
and I saw this person standing
next to the bed
756
00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:19,333
dressed in a black
and with a gun.
757
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,834
Finally, I realized that this
is real and I yelled.
758
00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:28,033
And the next thing I knew,
he shot a taser at me.
759
00:35:29,266 --> 00:35:31,333
[Connie] The first wordsthat I spoke were,
760
00:35:31,333 --> 00:35:34,066
"Oh, Lord, please help us.
Please help us."
761
00:35:34,066 --> 00:35:36,667
And his first words
to me were,
762
00:35:36,734 --> 00:35:38,533
"Where's your God now?"
763
00:35:39,467 --> 00:35:41,934
He had me put handcuffson Larry,
764
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,233
and then he proceeded
to handcuff me.
765
00:35:45,166 --> 00:35:47,166
He took duct tapeand put it over our eyes
766
00:35:47,166 --> 00:35:48,867
and our mouths,
and we were told
767
00:35:48,867 --> 00:35:50,533
to be quiet
and not say anything.
768
00:35:51,033 --> 00:35:53,467
[Larry]
He took us out to the garage
769
00:35:53,467 --> 00:35:56,667
where there was an old
Chevy Caprice parked there
770
00:35:56,734 --> 00:36:00,233
and somehow got us
into the trunk.
771
00:36:01,367 --> 00:36:04,734
We rode in that trunk
for half an hour or so.
772
00:36:11,266 --> 00:36:14,367
[Connie] He took me out first
773
00:36:14,367 --> 00:36:16,734
and led me to what I thought
774
00:36:16,734 --> 00:36:18,734
was gonna be a small room,
775
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,000
but it turned out
to be a closet
776
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,834
and I hadto climb down a ladder.
777
00:36:25,333 --> 00:36:27,233
It was a completely
sealed room,
778
00:36:27,233 --> 00:36:30,934
concrete walls,
so it was very sturdy.
779
00:36:30,934 --> 00:36:34,934
It was designed
to make sure that people
780
00:36:34,934 --> 00:36:38,367
could stay there
for a period of time.
781
00:36:38,367 --> 00:36:40,834
They had like stack
of ramen noodles.
782
00:36:42,767 --> 00:36:46,467
They had ashower and a toilet.
783
00:36:47,266 --> 00:36:48,467
And then on the other side,
784
00:36:48,533 --> 00:36:52,233
they had locking mechanism
for handcuffing.
785
00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:54,567
It was very apparentthat this was a room made
786
00:36:54,634 --> 00:36:57,166
for locking people
against their will.
787
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:02,467
This was a purposeful plan
that he had contemplated,
788
00:37:02,533 --> 00:37:05,934
and thought about,
and worked to fruition
789
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,133
over months and years.
790
00:37:10,133 --> 00:37:13,300
[Chad speaking]
791
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,867
I said to him,
"Why are you doing this?"
792
00:37:23,867 --> 00:37:26,467
There was no emotion.It was... It was basically,
793
00:37:26,467 --> 00:37:28,333
"I'm gonna keep you until
I get all your money,
794
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,433
and then I have to kill you."
795
00:37:32,467 --> 00:37:37,333
[Chad speaking]
796
00:37:46,333 --> 00:37:48,533
[Larry] When he took herto the bank...
797
00:37:49,166 --> 00:37:52,934
I kept goingthrough different scenarios.
798
00:37:52,934 --> 00:37:55,033
What should I have done?What could I have done?
799
00:37:55,033 --> 00:37:56,333
What can I do?
800
00:37:58,934 --> 00:38:01,967
How do I help her?
801
00:38:01,967 --> 00:38:05,000
And just being tied up there
802
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,867
and knowing
that there was nothing
803
00:38:06,867 --> 00:38:09,467
I could do to help her,
804
00:38:09,467 --> 00:38:12,000
I'll never forget that,
you know, never.
805
00:38:13,333 --> 00:38:17,333
[investigator speaking]
806
00:38:17,333 --> 00:38:20,533
[Chad speaking]
807
00:38:27,567 --> 00:38:30,233
[John] Eventually, he tooka guilty plea.
808
00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:33,467
He received 60 years in prison
809
00:38:33,467 --> 00:38:35,433
with no chance of parole.
810
00:38:35,867 --> 00:38:37,266
For the rest of his life,
811
00:38:37,266 --> 00:38:40,800
he will be incarceratedin the state of Illinois.
812
00:38:46,667 --> 00:38:47,734
People get kidnapped,
813
00:38:47,734 --> 00:38:49,233
people get taken
against their will.
814
00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:50,467
That is not that uncommon,
815
00:38:50,467 --> 00:38:52,333
but for it to happen to acouple like the Van Oostens
816
00:38:52,333 --> 00:38:54,166
who have neverwronged anyone,
817
00:38:54,166 --> 00:38:56,667
the level of depravity,
which they're subjected to,
818
00:38:56,734 --> 00:38:58,567
its unlike anything
I've ever seen and I hope
819
00:38:58,567 --> 00:39:00,533
I never see anything
like it again.
820
00:39:03,567 --> 00:39:04,934
[Connie] Larry never thought
821
00:39:04,934 --> 00:39:06,934
that he protected me...
822
00:39:07,767 --> 00:39:09,333
but he did.
823
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,333
He stood by me the whole time,
824
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,567
and he was there,
and did everything
825
00:39:13,567 --> 00:39:15,867
in his power to protect me,
826
00:39:15,867 --> 00:39:17,634
and he's continued to do that.
827
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:21,567
[Larry] She didn't haveto come back.
828
00:39:21,567 --> 00:39:23,233
She could have stayed
right there at the bank
829
00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:25,066
and sent the police,
but she didn't do it.
830
00:39:25,066 --> 00:39:28,567
She came backon her own free will,
831
00:39:29,233 --> 00:39:31,333
just so they could find me.
832
00:39:31,333 --> 00:39:33,133
She came back to save me.
833
00:39:33,133 --> 00:39:35,233
[Connie] I just felt thatI had to do
834
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:38,767
something because
it was our last chance.
835
00:39:38,767 --> 00:39:42,233
I believe God was there
saying, write that note.
836
00:39:43,767 --> 00:39:45,934
And she may
not want to hear it, but...
837
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,467
[laughs]
838
00:39:48,533 --> 00:39:51,433
...she absolutely is the hero.
839
00:39:52,367 --> 00:39:54,934
[Amy] I don't even knowif there are any words
840
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,033
to say how proud I amof them.
841
00:39:58,033 --> 00:40:01,567
Just can't say enough
about how strong they are.
842
00:40:01,567 --> 00:40:03,333
I wanna be like them
when I grow up someday.
843
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,767
[chuckles]
844
00:40:04,767 --> 00:40:07,233
[dramatic music playing]
845
00:40:11,734 --> 00:40:13,834
[doorbell chimes]
846
00:40:13,834 --> 00:40:15,867
[Larry] We saw God actin real time
847
00:40:15,867 --> 00:40:18,367
in a matter of twoand a half, three days,
848
00:40:18,367 --> 00:40:24,467
where he took us from
captivity to being saved.
849
00:40:24,533 --> 00:40:27,734
He put those peoplein those places,
850
00:40:27,734 --> 00:40:30,467
the perfect peopleat the exact right time
851
00:40:30,467 --> 00:40:34,033
to be able to get usout of there alive.
852
00:40:34,033 --> 00:40:35,367
You know, I joke about it now
853
00:40:35,367 --> 00:40:36,934
and I say, I peaked early.
854
00:40:36,934 --> 00:40:38,867
You know, like,
is this what the FBI does?
855
00:40:38,867 --> 00:40:41,133
Like, it really does this?
856
00:40:41,967 --> 00:40:43,867
I'm just glad it was you guys
857
00:40:43,867 --> 00:40:45,266
and you made it wonderful.
858
00:40:45,266 --> 00:40:47,934
-[Larry] Yeah.
-[Connie] I mean,
all you guys did.
859
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,133
As a new agent,
it gave me the utmost
860
00:40:51,133 --> 00:40:53,333
optimism in the career
861
00:40:53,333 --> 00:40:55,467
that I was getting into.
862
00:40:55,467 --> 00:40:58,467
And that's what the FBI is,
an incredible group of people
863
00:40:58,467 --> 00:41:01,266
that given the opportunity
or the need arises,
864
00:41:01,266 --> 00:41:03,467
we will get together
and accomplish whatever
865
00:41:03,467 --> 00:41:05,567
needs to get done
for the greater good.
866
00:41:05,567 --> 00:41:08,734
[dramatic music playing]
867
00:41:15,667 --> 00:41:17,634
The criminals we target are
the worst of the worst.
868
00:41:22,467 --> 00:41:24,800
They just appear to be
completely unstoppable.
869
00:41:25,867 --> 00:41:27,133
One of the biggest cases of
my career.
870
00:41:27,133 --> 00:41:30,834
The level of hate was just so
horrific.
871
00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:33,367
Nobody was dealing anywhere near
as many pills as they were.
872
00:41:33,367 --> 00:41:37,133
Each day that went by
the challenge built.
873
00:41:37,133 --> 00:41:39,467
We could start bringing in
resources from
874
00:41:39,467 --> 00:41:40,834
all over the country.
875
00:41:40,834 --> 00:41:42,667
[Knocking]
FBI!
876
00:41:42,667 --> 00:41:45,367
We risked having more victims.
877
00:41:45,367 --> 00:41:48,133
People are panicking.
Time is running out.
878
00:41:48,133 --> 00:41:51,033
Inmates could order violence out
on the street.
879
00:41:53,166 --> 00:41:55,867
I had to separate myself
so I could do this job
880
00:41:55,867 --> 00:41:57,400
because it's horrifying.
881
00:41:58,467 --> 00:42:00,667
He's in the middle of a field,
by himself dead,
882
00:42:00,734 --> 00:42:02,367
and I'm rolling up on
a dead body.
883
00:42:02,367 --> 00:42:06,367
This is a lifestyle and you will
live it until you're done.
71585
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