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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,420 --> 00:00:03,220 Previously on L .A. Law. Hello. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,480 Ah, you're... Jane Halliday. 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,240 I'm Douglas Brackman. 4 00:00:07,500 --> 00:00:10,460 This is Dan Kelsey, Jonathan Rollins, and Arnold Becker. 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,220 You've been charged with a murder. 6 00:00:14,220 --> 00:00:17,240 That means you need to have someone paying very close attention to what 7 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:18,240 to you. 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,520 Last night I was at this restaurant, and the husband of the woman who your 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,240 client was charged with killing was there. 10 00:00:23,980 --> 00:00:28,580 Yeah? He was with this hot tomato, and they were all over each other. They were 11 00:00:28,580 --> 00:00:31,880 drinking, grabbing, kissing. I mean, it was like nauseating already. 12 00:00:32,259 --> 00:00:33,260 Huh. 13 00:00:38,780 --> 00:00:40,000 Do you mind that I'm here? 14 00:00:41,020 --> 00:00:42,340 No, you've got to be here, right? 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:43,640 Sort of. 16 00:00:49,980 --> 00:00:51,660 How often have you been seeing Gail? 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,640 Once or twice a week. You saw her the day she was killed? 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,360 Yeah. And you had a fight with her of any kind? 19 00:01:00,220 --> 00:01:01,220 You're from New York? 20 00:01:01,980 --> 00:01:04,680 Yeah. There's a lot of crazy people in New York. 21 00:01:05,260 --> 00:01:07,740 It's like they're all talking at the same time. 22 00:01:09,220 --> 00:01:10,220 Or arguing. 23 00:01:10,420 --> 00:01:11,720 Or crying. 24 00:01:12,020 --> 00:01:13,020 Or praying. 25 00:01:13,060 --> 00:01:15,600 Sandy. The seat opens up on the subway, so I sit down. 26 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:21,240 And the lady next to me is standing. She starts crying because she wanted to sit 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,240 down. Sandy. 28 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:23,320 I need your help. 29 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,480 I need you to stop thinking about crazy people in New York and start thinking 30 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:27,820 about the crime you've been charged with. 31 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,080 Oh, I hate these patterns. 32 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,240 What patterns? 33 00:01:33,020 --> 00:01:34,380 Patterns on the floor. 34 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,800 The linoleum. 35 00:01:36,340 --> 00:01:39,760 Keep dividing and subdividing. There's lines and there's quadrants and 36 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,520 hemispheres, and it's not that restful to have to look at that. I prefer to 37 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,520 plain floors. 38 00:01:45,740 --> 00:01:46,740 Plain walls. 39 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,120 Although these walls are pretty plain, but there's too much going on with those 40 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,360 floors. Did you kill anybody, Sandy? 41 00:01:52,700 --> 00:01:56,180 What the hell would you do if I said I did? I'd be your lawyer. The same thing 42 00:01:56,180 --> 00:01:57,320 I'd do if you said you didn't. 43 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,779 What's the difference? 44 00:01:58,780 --> 00:02:00,420 It might affect the way I try the case. 45 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:01,640 Yeah, but it shouldn't, though. 46 00:02:02,100 --> 00:02:04,000 Try and get me off no matter what, right? 47 00:02:04,340 --> 00:02:05,700 If that's what you want. 48 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,120 That's what I want. 49 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,940 Let me begin this morning by welcoming our newest associate, Ms. Jane Halliday. 50 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:13,819 Here, here. 51 00:04:13,820 --> 00:04:15,980 Welcome. How do you do? Hi. Hi. 52 00:04:16,220 --> 00:04:20,779 I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to work with you. I do hope 53 00:04:20,779 --> 00:04:21,779 of some service. 54 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:27,560 Also, I would like to thank everyone in advance for all of the help I'm sure I 55 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,940 will be asking for. Ask and it shall be given you. 56 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,340 Seek and you shall find. 57 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,740 Knock and it shall be opened unto you. 58 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,200 Matthew 7. 59 00:04:36,300 --> 00:04:39,920 Well, I don't know the appropriate biblical passage for new business, but 60 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,900 whatever it is, this young lady is responsible for bringing some with her. 61 00:04:43,180 --> 00:04:47,080 Carey versus the Department of Veteran Affairs, Miss Halliday. David Carey is a 62 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,220 veteran of the Gulf War. 63 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,640 Like hundreds of others, he's come down with a debilitating illness as a result 64 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,860 of exposure to chemicals in Kuwait. Yeah, I heard about that. They have all 65 00:04:55,860 --> 00:04:59,640 kinds of strange symptoms, like hair loss, immune system problems. 66 00:04:59,980 --> 00:05:03,820 Well, until recently, VA doctors routinely dismissed this condition as 67 00:05:03,820 --> 00:05:05,980 psychosomatic. How did you come to represent him? 68 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,380 He's a member of my church. 69 00:05:07,620 --> 00:05:12,120 Great. Religious organizations, I believe, are a terrific and largely 70 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,120 source of referrals. 71 00:05:13,220 --> 00:05:15,580 Would that more of us were trolling in those waters. 72 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,780 Next up, Bannister versus the American Buying Network. 73 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,640 That's mine. We represent the Buying Network. The plaintiff is a guy who's 74 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,260 them for selling to his wife. 75 00:05:25,690 --> 00:05:28,990 He claims she's got an obsessive -compulsive shopping disorder that they 76 00:05:28,990 --> 00:05:30,670 undue advantage of. You're kidding. 77 00:05:30,890 --> 00:05:33,370 Yet another theory for avoiding personal responsibility. 78 00:05:33,730 --> 00:05:37,630 Those channels do play to people's compulsions. Oh, come on, she's weak. 79 00:05:37,630 --> 00:05:40,690 extravagant and she's weak. Compulsions like this are a sign of weakness. 80 00:05:41,090 --> 00:05:44,990 That wouldn't apply to your desire to own a $275 ,000 Bentley, would it? 81 00:05:45,430 --> 00:05:48,790 No, it wouldn't. I'm expecting that if we're successful in this matter, then 82 00:05:48,790 --> 00:05:51,610 American Buying Network may top us for a variety of other services. 83 00:05:51,930 --> 00:05:53,170 Eli, what's happening with your case? 84 00:05:54,190 --> 00:05:58,230 I'm preparing for trial, interviewing witnesses, going over police reports, 85 00:05:58,230 --> 00:06:01,550 kind of thing. I do need to hire a private investigator. If you've used 86 00:06:01,550 --> 00:06:03,130 who you'd recommend, I... King spelled it, sorry. 87 00:06:03,830 --> 00:06:04,830 You've used her? 88 00:06:05,890 --> 00:06:06,890 Yes, I have. 89 00:06:07,850 --> 00:06:12,710 How much is this one going to cost us, Douglas? 90 00:06:12,970 --> 00:06:13,729 Not a dime. 91 00:06:13,730 --> 00:06:17,410 Are you sure? First of all, the contract is primarily liable. Second of all, 92 00:06:17,430 --> 00:06:19,310 those stilts are illegal in the state of California. 93 00:06:19,810 --> 00:06:22,830 Assumption of risk, comparative negligence. We've got nothing to worry 94 00:06:32,460 --> 00:06:36,060 Mr. Bannister, how long has your wife been shopping with the American Buying 95 00:06:36,060 --> 00:06:38,060 Network? Since March of 1992. 96 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,060 What kinds of items did she purchase? 97 00:06:41,460 --> 00:06:47,060 Clothes, power tools, kitchen appliances, a radio transmitter dog 98 00:06:47,060 --> 00:06:48,060 mind that we don't have a dog. 99 00:06:48,620 --> 00:06:51,620 Stuffed animals and dolls. Never mind that we don't have any children. 100 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,440 The stuffed animals and dolls are collectibles. Ms. Bannister, please. 101 00:06:55,780 --> 00:06:59,020 The ceramic ducks wearing galoshes are also collectibles. 102 00:06:59,290 --> 00:07:04,030 Yes, they are. Folks, for the purposes of this trial, you two are on the same 103 00:07:04,030 --> 00:07:05,970 side. I don't want to hear any arguing. 104 00:07:06,330 --> 00:07:07,330 I'm sorry, Your Honor. 105 00:07:07,410 --> 00:07:11,590 Mr. Bannister, is your wife currently under treatment for any kind of mental 106 00:07:11,590 --> 00:07:15,250 disorder? She's under treatment for obsessive -compulsive shopping. 107 00:07:15,550 --> 00:07:19,130 Did you inform the American Buying Network of that fact? 108 00:07:19,370 --> 00:07:20,450 By registered mail. 109 00:07:20,690 --> 00:07:21,690 How did they respond? 110 00:07:21,810 --> 00:07:26,050 They responded by continuing to sell her anything and everything she wanted. Mr. 111 00:07:26,190 --> 00:07:27,810 Bannister, what has been the result? 112 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,240 The result has been that I'm facing bankruptcy. 113 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,060 I have no further questions. 114 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,040 Mr. Bannister, let's talk about those ceramic ducks. 115 00:07:36,260 --> 00:07:40,240 Your wife has collected ornamental birds for some time, hasn't she? Birds, 116 00:07:40,300 --> 00:07:42,460 rabbits, souvenirs, spoons. She collects everything. 117 00:07:42,700 --> 00:07:46,180 But your wife started collecting before she started watching the American Buying 118 00:07:46,180 --> 00:07:47,180 Network, didn't she? 119 00:07:55,140 --> 00:07:59,280 Is that a limited capacity? All I know is that since they have been 120 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,060 broadcasting, a day doesn't go by when a delivery truck does not come to my 121 00:08:03,060 --> 00:08:06,660 house. You claim your wife suffers from a shopping compulsion. Is there anything 122 00:08:06,660 --> 00:08:09,780 about your wife's voice that would indicate this compulsion? 123 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,160 No. Anything at all that would, in your opinion... 124 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,680 indicate to a phone operator at the American buying network that your wife 125 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,920 compulsive. Well, how about the fact that she calls 50 times a day? 126 00:08:21,140 --> 00:08:24,200 So you're saying that based on the frequency of your wife's calls, an 127 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,880 should have been able to diagnose her as having a psychiatric disorder? 128 00:08:27,180 --> 00:08:30,420 That's right. And furthermore, based on the diagnosis, they should have refused 129 00:08:30,420 --> 00:08:34,020 to sell her anything. That's right. You don't have an American booze network 130 00:08:34,020 --> 00:08:38,600 selling to drunks, an American dope network selling to junkies. By the same 131 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,780 token, you should not have an American buying network selling to my wife. 132 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,620 Mr. Carey, when did you first experience symptoms related to your current 133 00:08:48,620 --> 00:08:53,460 condition? During Operation Desert Storm, my unit secured the Al Wafra oil 134 00:08:53,460 --> 00:08:57,620 fields which the Iraqis had set on fire. The smoke was so thick that you could 135 00:08:57,620 --> 00:09:02,940 taste it. And that week I got a skin rash, headaches, and I coughed black 136 00:09:02,940 --> 00:09:03,859 from my lungs. 137 00:09:03,860 --> 00:09:07,260 And how was your health after returning to the United States? 138 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,040 I experienced fatigue, pain in my joints, and some hair loss. 139 00:09:11,660 --> 00:09:15,700 as well as severe headaches whenever I smelled anything chemical. But I didn't 140 00:09:15,700 --> 00:09:20,180 realize how bad off I was until I failed my annual physical performance test 141 00:09:20,180 --> 00:09:21,180 that August. 142 00:09:21,220 --> 00:09:22,620 What happened after you failed? 143 00:09:24,660 --> 00:09:26,080 I was discharged. 144 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:30,740 What, if any, medical treatment did you receive after your discharge? 145 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,960 Well, I went to the Veterans Hospital maybe a dozen times over a period of six 146 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,780 months, but the doctor said they could never find anything wrong with me. Dr. 147 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,760 Kreuter asked me if I was malingering. 148 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,280 Right to my face. 149 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,800 In the end, he just wrote me down as being depressed and gave me some pills. 150 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,600 How has your illness affected your life? 151 00:09:49,860 --> 00:09:54,280 Two years ago, my wife and I had plans to buy a house and start a family. 152 00:09:55,580 --> 00:10:02,480 Today, I have no job, no savings, $100 ,000 in medical bills. 153 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,120 My wife... 154 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:11,220 divorce me, and my career in the military is over. Why are you suing the 155 00:10:11,220 --> 00:10:12,520 Department of Veterans Affairs? 156 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,740 I served my country, and I don't regret that for a second, but the deal was, if 157 00:10:17,740 --> 00:10:20,420 I got hurt, that the VA was supposed to take care of me. 158 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,180 And instead, they just watched me fall apart. 159 00:10:25,060 --> 00:10:26,320 I have nothing further. 160 00:10:29,020 --> 00:10:33,200 Mr. Carey, according to your hospital file... 161 00:10:33,850 --> 00:10:39,950 You were seen by nine VA specialists who conducted no fewer than 23 diagnostic 162 00:10:39,950 --> 00:10:41,090 tests on you. 163 00:10:41,310 --> 00:10:46,510 Blood panels, bone marrow biopsies, EMGs, EKGs, CAT scans. 164 00:10:46,890 --> 00:10:50,410 Is this your idea of doctors just watching you fall apart? 165 00:10:50,670 --> 00:10:53,150 They never tested me for chemical poisoning. 166 00:10:53,470 --> 00:10:54,470 Let me ask you something, Mr. 167 00:10:54,610 --> 00:10:58,310 Carey. How do you explain the fact that of the 120 men in your unit... 168 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,580 You're the only one claiming to be permanently harmed by oil fires. Maybe I 169 00:11:02,580 --> 00:11:05,720 breathe more smoke. I don't know. Look, there are hundreds of guys from other 170 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,340 units who came back just as sick as me. Nobody disputes that you and other vets 171 00:11:09,340 --> 00:11:12,260 are sick, but you're accusing VA doctors of negligence. 172 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,120 Do you have any reason for believing that Dr. Kreuter and his staff were less 173 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,520 than diligent in their attempts to diagnose and treat you? Yes, I got hurt 174 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:21,520 there. 175 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,580 Just as sure as if I'd taken a bullet. 176 00:11:24,819 --> 00:11:28,260 And Dr. Kreuter, he told me it was all in my head. I mean, he let me get worse 177 00:11:28,260 --> 00:11:29,800 and worse to where I'll never recover. 178 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,780 To me, that's being less than diligent. To me, he was just being a government 179 00:11:33,780 --> 00:11:36,000 bureaucrat when what he should have been was a doctor. 180 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,600 I don't like what's happening. Ray, I entered a plea of not guilty because I 181 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,100 think there's a chance of getting him off. 182 00:11:51,420 --> 00:11:55,720 I hate to say this, but I don't think that's necessarily what's best for him. 183 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,300 What are you talking about? 184 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,220 Ed, face it. For once in your life, look at things the way they really are. 185 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,560 Our son is incapable of living outside of an institution. We have known that 186 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:09,860 since he was a teenager. I don't accept that. I know you don't accept it, but 187 00:12:09,860 --> 00:12:11,740 whether you accept it or not, it's the truth. 188 00:12:11,980 --> 00:12:14,560 Eli, I want you to change the plea to insanity. 189 00:12:15,820 --> 00:12:16,820 I won't do that. 190 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,540 What do you mean you won't do that? 191 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:19,760 Just what I said. 192 00:12:19,980 --> 00:12:21,740 You hired me to be your son's attorney. 193 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,040 That doesn't make you my client. That makes him my client. And I'm going to do 194 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,040 it in his best interest. 195 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,180 Do you think it's in his best interest for him to be on the street? 196 00:12:29,380 --> 00:12:33,260 I think it's in his best interest to be in a controlled therapeutic environment. 197 00:12:33,300 --> 00:12:34,600 That doesn't mean locking him up. 198 00:12:35,220 --> 00:12:37,860 Particularly when he's innocent of the crime with which he's been charged. 199 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,460 Dr. Anson, as a specialist in environmental medicine, have you 200 00:12:48,460 --> 00:12:49,900 Carey? Yes, I have. 201 00:12:50,140 --> 00:12:54,700 Mr. Carey is suffering from chemical sensitivity due to petroleum exposure. 202 00:12:55,420 --> 00:12:59,940 I might also add that I've personally diagnosed 27 Gulf veterans with the same 203 00:12:59,940 --> 00:13:02,450 condition. On what do you base your diagnosis? 204 00:13:02,810 --> 00:13:04,150 On chemical response tests. 205 00:13:04,470 --> 00:13:08,850 Normally harmless concentrations of petroleum triggered violent reactions in 206 00:13:08,970 --> 00:13:12,550 Carey, indicating a past exposure to a damaging dose of chemicals. 207 00:13:12,830 --> 00:13:16,410 What treatment, if any, exists for this condition? 208 00:13:16,770 --> 00:13:20,750 Patients are injected with tiny amounts of petroleum derivates to rebuild their 209 00:13:20,750 --> 00:13:24,810 tolerance. Now, if Mr. Carey had received such treatment early on, I 210 00:13:24,810 --> 00:13:25,810 would have fully recovered. 211 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,020 Doctor, in your opinion, should a physician who isn't trained in your 212 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:30,999 like Dr. 213 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,500 Kreuter, be expected to know about chemical sensitivity? 214 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:35,960 Generally, no. 215 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:40,360 But two years ago, when the first vet showed up with these symptoms, I 216 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,900 Dr. Kreuter to alert him about chemical sensitivity. 217 00:13:43,220 --> 00:13:46,040 I sent him case studies, treatment protocols. 218 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,660 If he would have used him, he could have saved David Carey, untold suffering. 219 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:50,980 I have nothing further. 220 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:55,620 Doctor, isn't it true that the American Board of Medical Specialists rejects 221 00:13:55,620 --> 00:13:59,520 environmental medicine as a specialty because they find your methods 222 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:00,800 inconclusive? Yes. 223 00:14:01,180 --> 00:14:02,180 Naturally, I disagree. 224 00:14:02,540 --> 00:14:06,120 Naturally. Now, these response tests... 225 00:14:06,410 --> 00:14:10,770 You spoke of assuming they're accurate. They show that Mr. Carey is sensitive to 226 00:14:10,770 --> 00:14:11,770 chemicals, correct? 227 00:14:11,830 --> 00:14:15,330 Yes, and such sensitivity indicates chemical poisoning in the past. 228 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:18,030 But assuming that's true, how do you know that chemical poisoning and not 229 00:14:18,030 --> 00:14:22,330 something else is behind Mr. Carey's fatigue, joint pain, and weight loss? 230 00:14:22,330 --> 00:14:25,930 research shows that those symptoms are consistent with chemical exposure. 231 00:14:26,250 --> 00:14:30,470 Are you aware that there are other theories that have been proposed for 232 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:31,470 wrong with these vets? 233 00:14:31,830 --> 00:14:34,470 Some doctors say they have a rare bacterial infection. 234 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:39,300 Others say the culprit is a parasite transmitted in the bite of a Middle 235 00:14:39,300 --> 00:14:43,120 sand flea. I know that I have been treating these vets and getting results. 236 00:14:43,500 --> 00:14:47,880 After a year of your treatments, Mr. Carey still appears to be quite ill. 237 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,180 because Dr. Croyder has allowed his condition to progress to an irreversible 238 00:14:51,180 --> 00:14:54,720 stage. That's one explanation. Another is that your diagnosis is wrong and your 239 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:55,720 treatment's ineffective. 240 00:14:56,020 --> 00:14:58,520 Objection. That's all right. I'm done with the doctor. 241 00:15:02,410 --> 00:15:05,470 What is your position at the American Buying Network, Mr. Atkins? 242 00:15:05,830 --> 00:15:09,430 Founder, president, chief cook and bottle washer. It's pretty much my baby. 243 00:15:09,590 --> 00:15:12,510 Could you describe for us the kind of interaction that would have likely taken 244 00:15:12,510 --> 00:15:16,370 place between Philomena Bannister and the various operators she would have 245 00:15:16,370 --> 00:15:17,089 orders with? 246 00:15:17,090 --> 00:15:19,350 Generally, there would have been an exchange of pleasantries. 247 00:15:19,750 --> 00:15:24,030 We'd take her name, address, daytime telephone number and a major credit 248 00:15:24,230 --> 00:15:27,230 She'd place an order and that would be that. Mr. Atkins. 249 00:15:27,930 --> 00:15:31,450 Why did the American Buying Network continue to sell to Philomena Bannister? 250 00:15:31,590 --> 00:15:35,690 It's not our role to decide for our customers how much they should spend or 251 00:15:35,690 --> 00:15:38,610 they should buy or how often they should shop any more than it's the role of 252 00:15:38,610 --> 00:15:43,750 Neiman Marcus or Nordstrom's or Bob's Big Boy. As long as Philomena Bannister 253 00:15:43,750 --> 00:15:46,390 wants to be our customer, it's not up to me to say she can't be. 254 00:15:46,750 --> 00:15:47,850 Thank you. Nothing further. 255 00:15:48,330 --> 00:15:52,750 Mr. Atkins, do you have any idea how much Philomena Bannister purchased from 256 00:15:52,750 --> 00:15:54,090 American Buying Network? 257 00:15:54,490 --> 00:15:59,230 No, actually, I don't. Would it surprise you to learn that she averaged over $1 258 00:15:59,230 --> 00:16:02,610 ,500 a week in the past two years? 259 00:16:03,450 --> 00:16:06,430 No. Would you say that sounds a little excessive? 260 00:16:06,830 --> 00:16:10,930 I'm in no position to say anything of the kind. What's excessive for one 261 00:16:10,930 --> 00:16:12,430 is moderate for another. 262 00:16:12,650 --> 00:16:14,510 Does the fact that these two people... 263 00:16:15,020 --> 00:16:20,240 face the prospect of the bank foreclosing on their mortgage, suggest 264 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,660 their case might not be moderate? 265 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,540 Again, I don't presume to tell someone how to spend their money. If a shelf 266 00:16:26,540 --> 00:16:31,380 of figurines or a strand of faux pearls and matching earrings brings joy and a 267 00:16:31,380 --> 00:16:35,500 sense of well -being to someone's existence, who am I to tell them they 268 00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:36,500 shouldn't have those things? 269 00:16:36,580 --> 00:16:40,220 Tell me, Mr. Atkins, do you have any familiarity with compulsive shopping 270 00:16:40,220 --> 00:16:41,220 disorder? 271 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,840 Not really, no. Well, let me put it this way. Did it ever occur to you that 272 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,900 Philomena Bannister might not need any more shelves of figurines or strands of 273 00:16:49,900 --> 00:16:51,600 faux pearls with matching earrings? 274 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,540 If I thought that way, I'd be out of business. 275 00:16:53,900 --> 00:16:55,820 Spoken like a true visionary. 276 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:57,560 Objection. Withdrawn. 277 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,040 Nothing further. 278 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:06,359 Eli? 279 00:17:06,660 --> 00:17:08,819 Eli, this is Jinx Baldessari. 280 00:17:09,180 --> 00:17:10,180 How do you do? 281 00:17:10,569 --> 00:17:11,750 Hi. Can I get you something? 282 00:17:12,010 --> 00:17:13,530 A bottle of water would be great. 283 00:17:13,829 --> 00:17:14,829 Thanks for coming over. 284 00:17:14,930 --> 00:17:19,210 You're representing that guy who's charged with killing a social worker. 285 00:17:19,430 --> 00:17:23,310 From what my friends in the DA's office tell me, you've got your work cut out 286 00:17:23,310 --> 00:17:24,229 for you. 287 00:17:24,230 --> 00:17:25,169 That I do. 288 00:17:25,170 --> 00:17:26,230 What can I do for you? 289 00:17:26,910 --> 00:17:29,370 I have reason to suspect that the husband is not all he seems. 290 00:17:29,690 --> 00:17:30,970 You think he killed his wife? 291 00:17:31,430 --> 00:17:32,369 I don't know. 292 00:17:32,370 --> 00:17:36,130 Is this an exercise in wishful thinking, then? It's a little bit more than that. 293 00:17:36,210 --> 00:17:39,390 The husband's been seen around town with a woman he seems to know quite well. 294 00:17:40,030 --> 00:17:43,750 I'm led to believe their behavior is on the libidinous side. I can put a tail on 295 00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:47,970 him 24 hours a day. I can find out who the girlfriend is and put a tail on her. 296 00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:51,970 Sounds good. I charge $750 per eight -hour day. 297 00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:54,790 Overtime and out -of -pocket expenses are extra. 298 00:17:55,010 --> 00:17:57,690 You come very highly recommended. I'm sure you're worth whatever you charge. 299 00:17:57,970 --> 00:17:58,970 Excuse me. 300 00:17:59,110 --> 00:18:00,009 Here's your water. 301 00:18:00,010 --> 00:18:03,810 Thanks. Sure. I love your outfit. Oh, thank you. Really fabulous. 302 00:18:04,330 --> 00:18:05,910 Thank you. Is that a Tadaldum vest? 303 00:18:07,110 --> 00:18:08,670 Actually, it's a Comme des Garcons. 304 00:18:09,030 --> 00:18:10,030 Oh. Really? 305 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,100 Glass. Oh, I'm sorry. I'll break that. I'm sure people tell you all the time 306 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:15,500 you don't look like a private investigator. 307 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:16,879 Yes, they do. 308 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,820 Yeah, I figured they did. Is that something you were planning on saying? 309 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,040 Me? No. 310 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,160 Good. 311 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,500 Why don't we start going over the file? 312 00:18:24,980 --> 00:18:25,980 Right. 313 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:37,040 Dr. Kreuter, during your examination of David Carey, what evidence of physical 314 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,240 illness did you find? 315 00:18:38,590 --> 00:18:43,030 Despite extensive diagnostic testing, I found no evidence of anything physically 316 00:18:43,030 --> 00:18:43,969 wrong with Mr. 317 00:18:43,970 --> 00:18:46,890 Carey. And what did you conclude was the cause of Mr. Carey's symptoms? 318 00:18:47,290 --> 00:18:50,350 At the time, I concluded the cause was clinical depression. 319 00:18:50,650 --> 00:18:55,070 Mr. Carey's fatigue, weight loss, mood swings, and loss of appetite fit the 320 00:18:55,070 --> 00:18:57,790 criteria. I prescribed medication accordingly. 321 00:18:58,170 --> 00:19:01,210 Do you recall during this period having a conversation with Dr. 322 00:19:01,490 --> 00:19:03,310 Anson on chemical sensitivity? 323 00:19:03,850 --> 00:19:06,550 Yes, and I received and read his materials. 324 00:19:06,890 --> 00:19:09,650 Do you consider treating Mr. Carey for chemical sensitivity? 325 00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:14,150 No. I found the theory speculative, and I wasn't about to experiment on my 326 00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:19,490 patients with treatments whose efficacy and safety was unproven. Dr. Kreuter, is 327 00:19:19,490 --> 00:19:24,510 there anything you know now that might cause you to revise your diagnosis of 328 00:19:24,690 --> 00:19:29,330 Carey? The truth is, nobody knows what's causing these symptoms. But having seen 329 00:19:29,330 --> 00:19:32,330 more cases of Gulf veterans with these sort of problems... 330 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,440 We have a basis for concluding that some sort of physiological condition does 331 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,460 exist, so I might very well revise my diagnosis. 332 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,000 I have nothing further. 333 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:49,140 Dr. Kreuter, in your mind, does it indicate a prudent standard of care when 334 00:19:49,140 --> 00:19:53,280 patient is allowed to deteriorate to the point where he can't walk unassisted? 335 00:19:53,500 --> 00:19:54,459 I watch Mr. 336 00:19:54,460 --> 00:19:57,400 Carey decline with great frustration and sympathy. 337 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,720 But I did everything I could for him based on accepted medical practice. 338 00:20:02,020 --> 00:20:06,280 Well, given that accepted medical practice had failed, Mr. Carey, how 339 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,280 dismiss Dr. 340 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:08,519 Anson's approach? 341 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,240 I received my training at Johns Hopkins, Miss Halliday. 342 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,640 I was taught not to subject my patients to the risks of unproven treatments. 343 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,540 You never told me a treatment existed. 344 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,340 How could you know and not tell me? 345 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,580 I mean, it should have been up to me. How could you know and not even tell me? 346 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:24,640 David. 347 00:20:27,370 --> 00:20:32,530 Dr. Kreuter, the treatment for chemical exposure is virtually risk -free. Didn't 348 00:20:32,530 --> 00:20:35,230 you owe it to David Carey to at least give it a try? 349 00:20:35,510 --> 00:20:37,950 We see hundreds of veterans a day, Miss Halliday. 350 00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:43,070 We do not have the time or the funds to try every non -conventional treatment 351 00:20:43,070 --> 00:20:44,250 that comes down the pike. 352 00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:49,150 So to be cost -effective, you gave this man a handful of happy pills and shoved 353 00:20:49,150 --> 00:20:52,620 him out the door. Objection. The fact that he laid down his life... for his 354 00:20:52,620 --> 00:20:53,700 country didn't matter. 355 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,680 Objection, Miss Halliday. His country was through with him, and you weren't 356 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,780 about to expend the time or money to treat him. Objection, Miss Halliday. Is 357 00:20:59,780 --> 00:21:02,180 possible, Doctor, that had you tried Dr. 358 00:21:02,420 --> 00:21:06,760 Anson's treatment two years ago, David Carey would be well by now? Is it 359 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,920 possible that had you been of the mind to try, you could have done something to 360 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,200 help David Carey when he asked you for help? 361 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,140 I don't know the answer to that question. 362 00:21:17,820 --> 00:21:18,920 I have no others. 363 00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:24,210 Thank you, Doctor. 364 00:21:42,490 --> 00:21:44,770 You go to war and get hit by a bullet? 365 00:21:45,890 --> 00:21:49,350 They give you a medal, and everyone wants to see the scar. 366 00:21:50,510 --> 00:21:55,230 But when you're hit with a bolt of toxic chemicals, they tell you it's all in 367 00:21:55,230 --> 00:21:56,029 your head. 368 00:21:56,030 --> 00:22:02,190 Like hundreds of other Desert Storm veterans, David Carey came home sick, 369 00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:05,990 to face skepticism and denial from those charged with making him well. 370 00:22:06,460 --> 00:22:11,380 It was Dr. Kreuter's job to do everything in his power to relieve David 371 00:22:11,380 --> 00:22:16,460 suffering. Not only did he fail to do so, but by choosing to ignore a 372 00:22:16,460 --> 00:22:20,260 therapy heaped enormous and needless amounts of suffering onto his patient. 373 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,580 If not for Dr. 374 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,700 Kreuter's inaction, David Carey would be able to walk right now without using a 375 00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:31,680 cane. He would be able to climb a flight of stairs without gasping for breath. 376 00:22:32,180 --> 00:22:34,380 David Carey deserved better. 377 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,760 All of the men and women who risk their lives in service of our country deserve 378 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:40,760 better. 379 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,940 Dr. Kreuter got the physician's credo mixed up. 380 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,500 Instead of first do no harm, he heard first do nothing. 381 00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:55,780 And by doing nothing, he caused David Carey a great deal of harm. 382 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,720 Harm from which he will never recover. 383 00:23:05,070 --> 00:23:06,330 Standard of care. 384 00:23:06,790 --> 00:23:10,670 That's the guideline you look to when judging whether a doctor acted 385 00:23:10,670 --> 00:23:16,130 negligently. And Dr. Kreuter acted no differently in caring for Mr. Carey than 386 00:23:16,130 --> 00:23:21,190 any responsible physician would have. The fact is, nobody could pin down this 387 00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:22,330 disease two years ago. 388 00:23:22,970 --> 00:23:24,770 And they can't pin it down now. 389 00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:26,550 All we have are theories. 390 00:23:26,870 --> 00:23:28,390 Against these odds, Dr. 391 00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:33,430 Kreuter and his staff worked diligently to try to find out what was wrong with 392 00:23:33,430 --> 00:23:34,430 Mr. Carey. 393 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,120 The fact that Dr. Kreuter had read some literature about a non -traditional 394 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:43,180 method of treatment in no way obliged him to experiment with it, especially 395 00:23:43,180 --> 00:23:46,240 he had such serious doubts about its efficacy and safety. 396 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,460 Dr. Kreuter is not an incompetent or a negligent physician. 397 00:23:51,380 --> 00:23:57,120 He is a kind and caring doctor who treated his patients as best he could. 398 00:24:10,179 --> 00:24:11,179 You know, 399 00:24:11,940 --> 00:24:15,240 I could be wrong, but somehow I don't think this woman's going to be all that 400 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,780 interested in our marital status. 401 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,240 Hello, subterfuge? 402 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,520 You're Pamela Reisenfeld? 403 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,700 Yes, I am. We'd like to talk to you about Jonah Berge. 404 00:24:25,340 --> 00:24:29,420 Who are you? I'm a private investigator. My name is James Baldessari. This is 405 00:24:29,420 --> 00:24:30,780 Eli Levinson. He's an attorney. 406 00:24:31,180 --> 00:24:35,260 Hi. I really have nothing to say about Jonah, and if that's what you're here to 407 00:24:35,260 --> 00:24:37,520 talk to me about, I'd like to ask you to leave. 408 00:24:37,780 --> 00:24:39,100 You don't want to talk to us? 409 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,940 No, I don't want to talk to you. 410 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,840 If I get an opinion issue, you'll have to testify in court. If you talk to us, 411 00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:46,500 we may find there's no reason to put you through that. 412 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,280 Look, I don't know anything about Gail's death. 413 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,160 I'm sure you don't. What I'm looking for is just a little background 414 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,160 information. 415 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:54,780 What kind of background information? 416 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,280 What kind of shape was Jonah's marriage in? I don't know what that means. 417 00:24:59,940 --> 00:25:01,160 Was he planning on getting a divorce? 418 00:25:01,820 --> 00:25:06,200 I wouldn't know. How long had the two of you been sleeping together when his 419 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,200 wife was murdered? 420 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:08,980 I can't believe you're asking me that. 421 00:25:09,180 --> 00:25:13,600 That 1993 Jaguar you're driving is registered to him. If you're trying to 422 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,160 the nature of your relationship, you're not doing a very good job. 423 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,480 This discussion is over. I want you both to leave. 424 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,120 There's a murder trial, Ms. Reisenfeld. There are no secrets anymore. 425 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:29,360 Come on. 426 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:35,780 Be seated. 427 00:25:36,060 --> 00:25:39,280 Your Honor, at this time, defense would like to call Philomena Bannister. 428 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,700 Ms. Mitchell, where's your client? 429 00:25:40,980 --> 00:25:42,400 Your Honor, I apologize. 430 00:25:42,940 --> 00:25:44,520 She said she'd be right back. 431 00:25:44,940 --> 00:25:46,920 Your Honor, she's in your chambers. 432 00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:48,980 She's what? 433 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,500 Are you kidding? 434 00:25:52,140 --> 00:25:54,940 I love the fit. I love the color. I love the material. 435 00:25:55,380 --> 00:25:57,560 And I'll bet you love unicorns, don't you? 436 00:25:58,060 --> 00:26:01,360 Yvonne, I love those unicorns. Excuse me, Your Honor. Case closed. 437 00:26:01,620 --> 00:26:04,440 We got Exhibit A right here. Your Honor, I want this excluded from the 438 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,320 proceeding. If I do not want the jury told about this. 439 00:26:06,820 --> 00:26:07,880 Oh, just be one minute. 440 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,780 Never mind telling the jury. Just bring them in here and let them take a look 441 00:26:10,780 --> 00:26:11,519 for themselves. 442 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,180 There will be no mention of this in front of the jury. 443 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,960 I want everyone back in that courtroom. I want to continue this trial in an 444 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,780 orderly fashion. Now get out of my chambers. 445 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,300 Ms. Bannister, would you tell the court if you are currently in therapy for 446 00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:35,320 treatment of an obsessive compulsive disorder? 447 00:26:35,980 --> 00:26:40,820 Yes, I am. And it's a fact, is it not, that when you talk to your husband and 448 00:26:40,820 --> 00:26:45,020 your therapist and others about shopping via this television channel... 449 00:26:45,340 --> 00:26:48,300 You didn't just refer to the merchandise you ordered. 450 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,440 Oh, there's more to it than the merchandise. I acknowledge that. You 451 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,400 each of the on -air hosts by name. 452 00:26:55,940 --> 00:27:00,360 You referred to feeling a sense of physical exhilaration each time they 453 00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:03,480 announced a price reduction by tooting a bicycle horn. 454 00:27:04,140 --> 00:27:06,700 I know I'm a compulsive shopper. 455 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,460 And I know that some people might find me ridiculous or pathetic. 456 00:27:13,420 --> 00:27:17,920 But no matter what my therapist says, I don't shop because there's something 457 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:23,400 missing in my life or because I'm secretly angry with my husband. 458 00:27:25,260 --> 00:27:30,020 I'm sorry, Howard. I look at your face and I know you're trying so hard to do 459 00:27:30,020 --> 00:27:31,400 what you think is best for us. 460 00:27:32,220 --> 00:27:36,280 I shop because I love to. 461 00:27:38,380 --> 00:27:41,280 I love everything about it. 462 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,880 I love picking up the phone and placing the order. 463 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:49,540 I love standing at my window every morning watching the truck arrive right 464 00:27:49,540 --> 00:27:50,540 schedule. 465 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,240 Asking the delivery man about his kids while I sign for my package. 466 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:01,600 I love slicing open the packing tape and opening the box and seeing what I got 467 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,600 new today. 468 00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:03,940 I'm a housewife. 469 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,820 I've been married to the same man for 20 years. 470 00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:08,820 Lived in the same house for 15. 471 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,300 The basics of my life don't change very much from day to day, and I don't expect 472 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:14,960 they ever will, but that's okay. 473 00:28:15,340 --> 00:28:21,420 I'm not looking for a lot of excitement, so I call the American Buying Network. 474 00:28:23,940 --> 00:28:25,540 And I chat with the hosts. 475 00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:32,000 And then I buy something, maybe a piece of jewelry or a blouse or even something 476 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,120 silly like a ceramic duck. But at that moment, I feel sustained. 477 00:28:38,380 --> 00:28:39,720 I feel happy. 478 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,800 I have something new. 479 00:28:48,340 --> 00:28:49,660 Please be seated. 480 00:28:57,860 --> 00:28:59,080 Clark will read the verdict. 481 00:29:02,180 --> 00:29:06,920 In the matter of Kerry versus the United States of America, the jury finds for 482 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,920 the defendant. 483 00:29:08,679 --> 00:29:10,600 Jury is dismissed to the thanks of the court. 484 00:29:10,980 --> 00:29:12,000 We are adjourned. 485 00:29:13,420 --> 00:29:14,420 I'm sorry, David. 486 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,160 Well, we gave it a shot, right? 487 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,640 We'll appeal. 488 00:29:20,460 --> 00:29:21,460 Right. 489 00:29:22,460 --> 00:29:25,460 Come on. Why don't you let me give you a ride home? No, I can get home by 490 00:29:25,460 --> 00:29:28,220 myself. I think I'll just sit here for a little while. 491 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,800 Sure? 492 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,280 Yeah. 493 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,360 I'd like to see Eli Levinson. 494 00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:48,219 You are? 495 00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:49,760 Jonah Bergen. Do you have an appointment? 496 00:29:50,020 --> 00:29:51,260 No, I don't have an appointment. 497 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,960 What's with the attitude? I just asked the question. 498 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,120 I don't have an appointment. 499 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,680 Well, then how did you get past reception? 500 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,080 I lied. 501 00:29:59,340 --> 00:30:00,340 Oh. 502 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,360 Let me see if Eli's available. 503 00:30:04,980 --> 00:30:05,980 Eli. 504 00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:07,780 Yeah, there's a Jonah Berge here. 505 00:30:09,340 --> 00:30:10,520 I have no idea. 506 00:30:11,140 --> 00:30:12,140 Yeah. 507 00:30:24,110 --> 00:30:27,330 What can I do for you, Mr. Berge? You can honor a very simple request. 508 00:30:28,730 --> 00:30:30,590 If you're interested in me, you come to me. 509 00:30:31,150 --> 00:30:32,910 Don't violate the privacy of other people. 510 00:30:33,910 --> 00:30:35,370 Are you willing to answer a few questions? 511 00:30:36,450 --> 00:30:38,130 What is it that you would like to know? 512 00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:41,490 How long have you been going out with Pamela Reisenfeld? 513 00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:45,010 I don't know what you mean by going out. We've been friends for a number of 514 00:30:45,010 --> 00:30:47,550 years. Were the two of you having an affair while your wife was alive? 515 00:30:47,870 --> 00:30:51,690 I assume that the import of that question is that if we were, I killed my 516 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,600 I'm just trying to get a picture of who everyone is in all this. 517 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,060 You know, whenever I've had dealings with lawyers, I'm always struck by how 518 00:30:59,060 --> 00:31:00,480 utterly amoral they are. 519 00:31:00,980 --> 00:31:05,460 Really? You're willing to go into court and spread absolute falsehoods. 520 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,360 You're willing to impugn me. 521 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,900 You're willing to encroach on the lives of innocent people, not because you 522 00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:14,420 actually think that I'm guilty of anything, but as a way of manufacturing 523 00:31:14,420 --> 00:31:16,280 about whether or not your client is guilty. 524 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,380 It's amazing. You're totally unconcerned with what actually happened. I don't 525 00:31:20,380 --> 00:31:21,380 know what actually happened. 526 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,800 Okay. 527 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,520 I'm not going to answer any more questions. 528 00:31:26,740 --> 00:31:30,820 If I'm cold to the stand, I'll testify. But I don't want to answer any more 529 00:31:30,820 --> 00:31:31,820 questions voluntarily. 530 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,800 I find what you're doing deeply offensive. 531 00:31:34,820 --> 00:31:38,140 And I'm not going to cooperate with you. I didn't really expect that you would. 532 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,900 By the way, someone told me that you're a patient of Max Binderman's. 533 00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:47,500 What someone was that? 534 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,180 I don't know who it was. 535 00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:53,660 They said that you had a major breakdown a couple of years ago. Now, you've been 536 00:31:53,660 --> 00:31:54,660 under Max's care. 537 00:31:55,060 --> 00:31:58,460 The reason I mention it is that Max and I were in graduate school together. 538 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,440 I didn't realize you were trained in psychology. 539 00:32:00,860 --> 00:32:02,240 One of my doctorates is in psychology. 540 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,660 I just never practiced. 541 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,560 Uh -huh. 542 00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:07,800 Can we say hi to Max for me? 543 00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:10,100 When you talk to him. 544 00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:17,480 Compulsive shopping disorder. 545 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,520 It sounds like a joke. 546 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,360 I assure you, ladies and gentlemen, to those facing bankruptcy, it is no joke. 547 00:32:25,580 --> 00:32:28,700 An addiction to shopping is just like any other addiction. 548 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,940 It robs you of your free will and it takes over your life. 549 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:38,240 This particular addiction is a little different, though. This addiction is 550 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:44,180 actively encouraged by a powerful broadcast network that lures in people 551 00:32:44,180 --> 00:32:47,720 Philomena. They get them and they don't let them go. 552 00:32:48,110 --> 00:32:51,990 Gerard Atkins claims he is not familiar with this disorder. 553 00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:57,550 The truth is, he is all too familiar with it. He's made a fortune exploiting 554 00:32:58,070 --> 00:33:04,130 The American Buying Network is designed to extract every dime they can from 555 00:33:04,130 --> 00:33:05,650 people like Philomena Bannister. 556 00:33:05,950 --> 00:33:10,370 They came into her home, they pretended to be her friend, and then they 557 00:33:10,370 --> 00:33:15,250 systematically drove both her and her husband to the brink of financial ruin. 558 00:33:16,460 --> 00:33:22,760 We ask that damages be assessed in the amount of half a million dollars to make 559 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:29,000 these two whole and to tell this corporation its behavior isn't justified 560 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,400 fact that it made the sale. 561 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,420 Philomena Vanston loves to shop. 562 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,880 We all heard her testimony. 563 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,520 Howard Bannister thinks his wife shops too much. 564 00:33:48,980 --> 00:33:50,560 Do I think she shops too much? 565 00:33:50,780 --> 00:33:52,140 Maybe I do. 566 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,180 But the truth is, whatever anybody thinks about how much Philomena 567 00:33:56,180 --> 00:33:58,020 shops, it's none of anybody's business. 568 00:33:58,580 --> 00:34:00,620 And if you doubt that, ask yourself this. 569 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,220 Is it anybody's business how much you shop? 570 00:34:04,580 --> 00:34:08,800 Philomena Bannister is seeing a therapist who says she has shopping 571 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,219 disorder. Now, the fact is, there's no listing for this disorder in the 572 00:34:13,219 --> 00:34:15,659 Psychiatric Association's diagnostic manual. 573 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,940 Howard Bannister couldn't tell us one identifying characteristic. 574 00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:25,120 Yet he expected the American Buying Network to take his word for it and act 575 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,880 the capacity of a surrogate parent by refusing to sell to this woman what she 576 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,120 asked to buy. 577 00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:32,520 Was the American Buying Network negligent? 578 00:34:32,980 --> 00:34:33,980 No. 579 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,760 No, the American Buying Network is a business, and they do make a profit. 580 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,440 But that does not make them responsible for the personal choices of their 581 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,560 customers. It does not make it their responsibility to decide who can and 582 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,880 shop. And frankly, ladies and gentlemen, I'm glad they don't have that power. 583 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,719 I'm glad that each and every one of us is free to make our own choices. 584 00:34:56,940 --> 00:35:02,400 As you see, the minute we make someone else responsible, we give our freedom 585 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,400 away. 586 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:11,879 Hi, Sandy. 587 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,819 I'm off. 588 00:35:12,820 --> 00:35:16,520 I got you some reading material. I didn't really know what your current 589 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,480 are, so I picked out some stuff that I like. 590 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:22,080 Larry McMurtry, Jim Harrison, some mysteries, magazine. 591 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,700 Yeah, it's a little too much. 592 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,300 Pick out what you like, and I'll bring the rest back. 593 00:35:26,540 --> 00:35:30,760 No, it's all too much. There's too much coming in. I can't keep track of other 594 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:36,320 people's stories and plots and characters and some magazine article 595 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,200 something different and an advertisement. 596 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,000 I can't keep track. 597 00:35:40,430 --> 00:35:41,430 Of all that. 598 00:35:41,850 --> 00:35:42,850 Okay. 599 00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:44,750 Is there something that we need to discuss today? 600 00:35:44,990 --> 00:35:47,810 There are a couple of things I wanted to ask you. Come on, Ed, let's go. 601 00:35:48,010 --> 00:35:51,150 Is it necessary that we go? Sandy, do you mind if we stay? 602 00:35:51,630 --> 00:35:52,630 Do what you want. 603 00:35:56,590 --> 00:35:57,590 What do you want to ask me? 604 00:35:59,130 --> 00:36:00,310 Did you ever meet Gail's husband? 605 00:36:01,010 --> 00:36:03,330 No. He was never in the office when you were there? 606 00:36:04,210 --> 00:36:05,370 I don't know what he looks like. 607 00:36:05,690 --> 00:36:07,850 So you have no way of knowing whether or not he was in the office when you were 608 00:36:07,850 --> 00:36:09,070 there? Right. 609 00:36:11,180 --> 00:36:12,220 Okay. Is that it? 610 00:36:12,580 --> 00:36:15,980 Sandy, can you tell me where you were in the morning Gail was killed? 611 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,160 Yeah, within my room. 612 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:20,160 Can you think of anybody who might have seen you in your room? 613 00:36:21,260 --> 00:36:23,000 No. No one came by? 614 00:36:23,340 --> 00:36:24,560 No. Did you go out to eat? 615 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,160 Okay. 616 00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:29,320 Next week we start picking a jury. 617 00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:30,720 Then we go to trial. 618 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:32,720 Right. 619 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:34,620 You need clothes for your trial. 620 00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:36,700 Do you have clothes? 621 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,360 Yeah. 622 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,040 Back in your room? 623 00:36:41,020 --> 00:36:42,960 Yeah. We'll go get them. 624 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,380 If I'm found guilty, they won't keep me here, right? Don't be thinking about 625 00:36:47,380 --> 00:36:48,380 being found guilty. 626 00:36:48,420 --> 00:36:52,180 Excuse me, I'm sorry, but I am thinking about it. And the question I have is 627 00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:54,920 whether or not they're going to keep me here or move me someplace else. 628 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,160 They'll move you someplace else. 629 00:36:57,860 --> 00:36:58,860 Okay. 630 00:37:07,210 --> 00:37:08,770 So nobody smokes around here, huh? 631 00:37:09,630 --> 00:37:11,530 No, I don't think anyone here smokes. 632 00:37:12,090 --> 00:37:15,630 We had a temp used to blow a reefer in the stairwell. Other than that, I don't 633 00:37:15,630 --> 00:37:16,630 think anybody smokes. 634 00:37:16,750 --> 00:37:19,310 So if I want to smoke, I have to go up to the elevator or to the ladies' room, 635 00:37:19,350 --> 00:37:22,210 huh? Unless you want to risk incurring the wrath of your co -workers. 636 00:37:23,010 --> 00:37:25,670 Jim, if there was a nun pounding on the door, I'd feel like I was right back in 637 00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:26,790 high school. Let me help you with that. 638 00:37:27,150 --> 00:37:29,670 You're Jane Halliday, right? Yes. You have a call. 639 00:37:30,090 --> 00:37:31,090 Langston. Yes. 640 00:37:32,270 --> 00:37:33,270 Hello. 641 00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:38,100 I'll be down in front of the building. 642 00:37:39,220 --> 00:37:39,939 What's wrong? 643 00:37:39,940 --> 00:37:42,580 My client's about to jump off a freeway overpass. 644 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:46,520 How 645 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:54,940 long 646 00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:58,300 has he been there? About an hour. We can't get close to him. I thought maybe 647 00:37:58,300 --> 00:37:59,420 could. David! 648 00:38:27,630 --> 00:38:29,170 I'm just coming a little closer. 649 00:38:30,650 --> 00:38:32,350 I'm just going to sit right here. 650 00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:34,990 Okay? 651 00:38:40,650 --> 00:38:41,850 They made me big. 652 00:38:42,810 --> 00:38:46,170 Like one of those guys with the signs that stands by the freeway entrance. 653 00:38:46,450 --> 00:38:48,850 David, you never asked for anything you didn't deserve. 654 00:38:49,230 --> 00:38:52,470 You know, when I was 24 years old, I was the youngest staff sergeant at Fort 655 00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:53,470 Sills. 656 00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:55,570 I was responsible for 40 men. 657 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,480 I led my men into battle and I distinguished myself in combat. 658 00:38:59,780 --> 00:39:03,580 I've already filed a notice of appeal. I intend to pursue this. I'll never be a 659 00:39:03,580 --> 00:39:04,580 soldier again. 660 00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:07,040 I'll never get my wife back again. 661 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,320 I'll never be able to walk up a flight of stairs without having to sit down. 662 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,980 There's no reason to end your life. 663 00:39:15,420 --> 00:39:18,680 Are you going to give me some article of religious faith? 664 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,200 Are you going to quote me some scripture? 665 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,540 I can, if you want me to. 666 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:25,840 Sure. 667 00:39:26,570 --> 00:39:28,730 You tell me what the Bible says I should do. 668 00:39:30,070 --> 00:39:33,010 The Bible says, wait for the Lord. 669 00:39:34,170 --> 00:39:36,410 Be strong and wait for the Lord. 670 00:39:37,050 --> 00:39:41,890 If God is for us, who shall be against us? Who shall separate us from the love 671 00:39:41,890 --> 00:39:42,890 of Christ? 672 00:39:44,370 --> 00:39:45,750 And that does it for you, huh? 673 00:39:47,350 --> 00:39:48,730 Praying does it for me. 674 00:39:49,770 --> 00:39:53,990 When I feel confused or depressed, I pray. 675 00:39:54,890 --> 00:39:58,990 I asked God to guide me. I asked him to show me the way. Well, I asked God to 676 00:39:58,990 --> 00:40:00,830 guide me, but I haven't heard back from him yet. 677 00:40:01,050 --> 00:40:04,930 You don't know any more than I know what the future holds. 678 00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:09,990 You could find things that make you grateful for every year of life you're 679 00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:10,990 given. 680 00:40:11,010 --> 00:40:12,350 Is God talking? 681 00:40:13,590 --> 00:40:14,930 No, me talking. 682 00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:24,360 David, I want you to take my hand and come down from here. 683 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,020 I want you to take my hand. 684 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,620 I just want to have someone care about me. 685 00:40:38,380 --> 00:40:39,380 Stay ready. 686 00:40:40,020 --> 00:40:42,160 You have someone who cares about you. 687 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,960 You have me. 688 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,120 Has the jury reached a verdict? 689 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,880 We have, Your Honor. What say you? In the matter of Bannister versus the 690 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,900 American buying network, we fine for the defendant. 691 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,260 The jury is dismissed with the thanks of the court. 692 00:41:05,580 --> 00:41:06,840 We are adjourned. 693 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,460 Don't think this is over. I'll appeal. Mr. Bannister, Mrs. Bannister, I'd like 694 00:41:15,460 --> 00:41:16,720 to discuss an idea I had. 695 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,960 Is there someplace we can talk? 696 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,160 Sure. 697 00:41:24,750 --> 00:41:25,629 are you proposing? 698 00:41:25,630 --> 00:41:27,290 We're proposing a job. What? 699 00:41:27,690 --> 00:41:32,070 I was watching you testify, Mrs. Bannister, and I wasn't visualizing you 700 00:41:32,070 --> 00:41:33,049 witness stand. 701 00:41:33,050 --> 00:41:36,750 I was visualizing you being broadcast into 43 million homes. 702 00:41:37,690 --> 00:41:38,850 What are you talking about? 703 00:41:39,110 --> 00:41:42,750 I'm talking about offering you a position at the American Buying Network 704 00:41:42,750 --> 00:41:43,850 on -air product host. 705 00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:44,988 Oh, no. 706 00:41:44,990 --> 00:41:48,070 We have the technology. What we don't want to lose is the humanity, and that's 707 00:41:48,070 --> 00:41:49,070 you, Mrs. Bannister. 708 00:41:49,180 --> 00:41:49,939 That's me? 709 00:41:49,940 --> 00:41:53,000 I believe you embody all the qualities that'll keep us grounded, all the 710 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,740 qualities our customers can relate to. 711 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,680 I believe you are the American Buying Network customer. 712 00:41:58,180 --> 00:42:02,380 Really? We'd be willing to negotiate a substantial salary plus a signing bonus. 713 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,640 Plus you forgive the debt? 714 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,760 Plus we'll forgive the debt. And you agree not to sell her anything? 715 00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:08,220 Done. 716 00:42:09,140 --> 00:42:10,520 Gosh, I don't know what to say. 717 00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:12,100 Say yes. 718 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,280 Now, wait a minute, wait a minute. I'm going to stop being a lawyer here. 719 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,500 just for a second, and ask a question, just for someone who's watched you 720 00:42:17,500 --> 00:42:18,279 throughout the trial. 721 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,000 Is it a good idea for you to be surrounded by this much temptation? 722 00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:25,120 Oh, Mr. Rollins, I'm surrounded by temptation every day of my life. 723 00:42:25,540 --> 00:42:29,920 I'm in therapy. I realize the effect my extravagances have had on my husband, 724 00:42:29,980 --> 00:42:33,840 and I know that in order for our marriage to survive, I must learn to 725 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,920 them. So, if I succumb to temptation, I will quit. 726 00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:41,920 Okay. But right now I'm going to go home and figure out what to wear. 727 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:45,000 We'll give you help with that. We'll give you a complete orientation before 728 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,000 go on the air. 729 00:42:46,060 --> 00:42:47,060 Wonderful. 730 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,420 I believe that you and I are going to have a lot of fun together. 731 00:42:56,060 --> 00:42:58,500 I heard there was a little excitement today. 732 00:42:58,740 --> 00:43:00,300 Well, I guess you could call it that. 733 00:43:00,980 --> 00:43:02,080 I'm glad to hear he's all right. 734 00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:04,140 He's alive. 735 00:43:04,460 --> 00:43:05,760 I wouldn't say he's all right. 736 00:43:06,410 --> 00:43:09,910 Let me get to the point. I understand you intend to move forward with an 737 00:43:10,310 --> 00:43:12,690 I'd like to see if we can avoid that. What do you propose? 738 00:43:14,890 --> 00:43:16,030 $250 ,000. 739 00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:18,550 Full and final payment. 740 00:43:19,490 --> 00:43:22,090 Only condition being absolute confidentiality. 741 00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:26,630 Suicidal veterans make for bad press, don't they? As do overly eager young 742 00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:28,710 attorneys with a great deal of time on their hands. 743 00:43:28,930 --> 00:43:33,090 Mr. Highgate, just so you know, I'm not overly eager and I don't have a lot of 744 00:43:33,090 --> 00:43:34,770 time on my hands. What I have... 745 00:43:35,050 --> 00:43:38,890 is a client whom I believe in. I'm prepared to pursue his case for as long 746 00:43:38,890 --> 00:43:41,950 necessary until he feels he's been adequately compensated. 747 00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:44,830 And I think a quarter of a million dollars qualifies, wouldn't you? 748 00:43:46,050 --> 00:43:47,390 I'll talk to my client. 749 00:43:48,310 --> 00:43:49,450 I appreciate that. 750 00:43:51,730 --> 00:43:53,110 We'd like this to be over. 751 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,300 Take what there is to take and go. 752 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,120 It's like a cell. 753 00:44:17,740 --> 00:44:19,960 What I like to know is how I was able to pay for it. 754 00:44:20,260 --> 00:44:21,880 A cell I know is how it costs money. 755 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,180 I don't know how he paid for it. 756 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,000 It wasn't working. 757 00:44:27,460 --> 00:44:29,280 He paid for it through the end of the month. 758 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:30,640 Where did he get the money? 759 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,240 Should we at least fold his things so they don't get all wrinkled? 760 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,060 I think we're best off just buying him something to wear, Ed. I know, but he 761 00:44:38,060 --> 00:44:39,260 should hang his things up. 762 00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:41,950 He's got a closet. He's got hangers. 763 00:44:42,170 --> 00:44:45,930 He should hang his things up when he takes them off so when he puts them back 764 00:44:45,930 --> 00:44:49,350 again, they don't get all wrinkled. Then he wouldn't have to send them out to be 765 00:44:49,350 --> 00:44:53,070 dry cleaned as much. And they wouldn't look like hell when he puts them back 766 00:44:53,150 --> 00:44:57,010 Hang them up. You get into the habit. When you take them off, you hang them 767 00:44:57,090 --> 00:45:00,410 Stop talking about him as though he's well, as though he's normal. 768 00:45:00,630 --> 00:45:02,710 He's not well. He's not normal. 769 00:45:04,130 --> 00:45:05,690 Okay, assume he's not. 770 00:45:06,510 --> 00:45:10,410 What should we do, Ray? Should we just forget about him? Should we write him 771 00:45:10,410 --> 00:45:13,330 and let him die? Is that what you want to do? Folks, you can't turn on each 772 00:45:13,330 --> 00:45:16,270 other. You know, sometimes I get the feeling that she'd just rather be done 773 00:45:16,270 --> 00:45:19,670 him. I get the feeling that it's too much trouble, that she'd rather not be 774 00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:23,470 bothered. The way he pays for this room is that I send him money. 775 00:45:24,730 --> 00:45:25,730 You do? 776 00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:26,910 Yes. 777 00:45:27,610 --> 00:45:32,290 So you've known where he's been? I send a money order to a post office box. 778 00:45:32,930 --> 00:45:35,310 I knew he was in L .A. That's all I knew. 779 00:45:36,750 --> 00:45:39,950 Why didn't you say something, Ray? Why didn't you tell me? Because I knew you'd 780 00:45:39,950 --> 00:45:42,190 try to find him. What would have been wrong with that? 781 00:45:43,350 --> 00:45:44,670 Didn't you want to find him? No! 782 00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:48,630 No! I wanted him to have a roof over his head. I wanted him not to starve. 783 00:45:48,690 --> 00:45:50,730 Beyond that, I stopped wanting anything. 784 00:45:51,650 --> 00:45:53,070 Oh, God, help me. 785 00:45:53,790 --> 00:45:55,890 I never wanted to see him again. 65232

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