All language subtitles for S13 E03： Kash Patel & Police Body Cameras： 3⧸1⧸26： Last Week Tonight with John Oliver [MhIQ3dmHusU].en

Welcome, welcome, welcome to last week

Welcome, welcome, welcome to last week
tonight. I'M JOHN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

tonight. I'M JOHN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

tonight. I'M JOHN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
JOINING US. It has been a busy week, and

JOINING US. It has been a busy week, and

JOINING US. It has been a busy week, and
I mean really busy. Trump against zero

I mean really busy. Trump against zero

I mean really busy. Trump against zero
odds delivered the longest state of the

odds delivered the longest state of the

odds delivered the longest state of the
union in history. The US and Israel

union in history. The US and Israel

union in history. The US and Israel
attacked Iran with Israeli officials

attacked Iran with Israeli officials

attacked Iran with Israeli officials
claiming they've killed Ayatollah Ham.

claiming they've killed Ayatollah Ham.

claiming they've killed Ayatollah Ham.
And look, we are taping this on

And look, we are taping this on

And look, we are taping this on
Saturday, so who the knows what's

Saturday, so who the knows what's

Saturday, so who the knows what's
happened by the time you see this?

happened by the time you see this?

happened by the time you see this?
Meanwhile, elsewhere, the Clintons

Meanwhile, elsewhere, the Clintons

Meanwhile, elsewhere, the Clintons
testified about their connection to

testified about their connection to

testified about their connection to
Jeffrey Epstein. And it turns out we

Jeffrey Epstein. And it turns out we

Jeffrey Epstein. And it turns out we
might be getting a new business daddy.

might be getting a new business daddy.

might be getting a new business daddy.
>> Netflix has backed out of its bid to buy

>> Netflix has backed out of its bid to buy

>> Netflix has backed out of its bid to buy
Warner Brothers Discovery, paving the

Warner Brothers Discovery, paving the

Warner Brothers Discovery, paving the
way for rival Paramount Sky Dance to

way for rival Paramount Sky Dance to

way for rival Paramount Sky Dance to
take over.

take over.

take over.
>> Yeah, not great news. In fact, if I may

>> Yeah, not great news. In fact, if I may

>> Yeah, not great news. In fact, if I may
quote anyone who's ever accidentally sat

quote anyone who's ever accidentally sat

quote anyone who's ever accidentally sat
on their Roku remote, "Oh I'm in

on their Roku remote, "Oh I'm in

on their Roku remote, "Oh I'm in
Paramount now. How the do I get out

Paramount now. How the do I get out

Paramount now. How the do I get out
of this?" Also, last Sunday saw the US

of this?" Also, last Sunday saw the US

of this?" Also, last Sunday saw the US
men's hockey team win gold, only for

men's hockey team win gold, only for

men's hockey team win gold, only for
this to happen.

this to happen.

this to happen.
>> A wild scene in the locker room with FBI

>> A wild scene in the locker room with FBI

>> A wild scene in the locker room with FBI
director Cash Patel even spotted

director Cash Patel even spotted

director Cash Patel even spotted
celebrating with the team, appearing to

celebrating with the team, appearing to

celebrating with the team, appearing to
chug a beer before raising the bottle in

chug a beer before raising the bottle in

chug a beer before raising the bottle in
the air, spraying it across the locker

the air, spraying it across the locker

the air, spraying it across the locker
room.

>> Yeah, that is the director of the FBI.

>> Yeah, that is the director of the FBI.
looking like a little kid who won a

looking like a little kid who won a

looking like a little kid who won a
prize for collecting the most canned

prize for collecting the most canned

prize for collecting the most canned
goods and got to go into the locker

goods and got to go into the locker

goods and got to go into the locker
room. Also, for what it's worth, he

room. Also, for what it's worth, he

room. Also, for what it's worth, he
didn't chug a beer, then spray it across

didn't chug a beer, then spray it across

didn't chug a beer, then spray it across
the locker room. A successful chug would

the locker room. A successful chug would

the locker room. A successful chug would
render the bottle unsprayable. What he

render the bottle unsprayable. What he

render the bottle unsprayable. What he
basically did there was drink a beer

basically did there was drink a beer

basically did there was drink a beer
weird and then kind of fling his

weird and then kind of fling his

weird and then kind of fling his
backwash around. Anyway, it was fun

backwash around. Anyway, it was fun

backwash around. Anyway, it was fun
while it lasted, but it's official.

while it lasted, but it's official.

while it lasted, but it's official.
Hockey sucks dick now. And sadly, NOT IN

Hockey sucks dick now. And sadly, NOT IN

Hockey sucks dick now. And sadly, NOT IN
THE HOT WAY.

THE HOT WAY.

THE HOT WAY.
NOW, PATEL'S PRESENCE there was strange

NOW, PATEL'S PRESENCE there was strange

NOW, PATEL'S PRESENCE there was strange
for a number of reasons, not least that

for a number of reasons, not least that

for a number of reasons, not least that
his press office had insisted his trip

his press office had insisted his trip

his press office had insisted his trip
to the Olympics was for work. Trashing

to the Olympics was for work. Trashing

to the Olympics was for work. Trashing
reports suggesting otherwise as false

reports suggesting otherwise as false

reports suggesting otherwise as false
and garbage. But when his itinerary was

and garbage. But when his itinerary was

and garbage. But when his itinerary was
released, it showed his 4-day trip

released, it showed his 4-day trip

released, it showed his 4-day trip
contained only several hours of work

contained only several hours of work

contained only several hours of work
meetings and a handful of meet and

meetings and a handful of meet and

meetings and a handful of meet and
greets broken up by long segments of

greets broken up by long segments of

greets broken up by long segments of
personal and leisure time with his final

personal and leisure time with his final

personal and leisure time with his final
day consisting of just the gold medal

day consisting of just the gold medal

day consisting of just the gold medal
game followed by his flight home. And

game followed by his flight home. And

game followed by his flight home. And
look, nothing against going to Italy and

look, nothing against going to Italy and

look, nothing against going to Italy and
getting a photo op. A couple of years

getting a photo op. A couple of years

getting a photo op. A couple of years
back, every living comedian but me

back, every living comedian but me

back, every living comedian but me
pulled that same move, and I hear they

pulled that same move, and I hear they

pulled that same move, and I hear they
had a great time. But the worktoplay

had a great time. But the worktoplay

had a great time. But the worktoplay
ratio seems a little off here. And this

ratio seems a little off here. And this

ratio seems a little off here. And this
was just the latest instance of Patel

was just the latest instance of Patel

was just the latest instance of Patel
seeming to use the FBI jet for personal

seeming to use the FBI jet for personal

seeming to use the FBI jet for personal
trips, which is a little rich coming

trips, which is a little rich coming

trips, which is a little rich coming
from him, given just over two years ago,

from him, given just over two years ago,

from him, given just over two years ago,
he sat down with Glenn Beck and

he sat down with Glenn Beck and

he sat down with Glenn Beck and
complained about his predecessor's use

complained about his predecessor's use

complained about his predecessor's use
of it, like this.

of it, like this.

of it, like this.
>> Chris Ray doesn't need a government

>> Chris Ray doesn't need a government

>> Chris Ray doesn't need a government
funded G5 jet to go to vacation. Maybe

funded G5 jet to go to vacation. Maybe

funded G5 jet to go to vacation. Maybe
we ground that plane. 15,000 every time

we ground that plane. 15,000 every time

we ground that plane. 15,000 every time
it takes off.

it takes off.

it takes off.
>> This is odd.

>> This is odd.

>> This is odd.
>> Okay, so first let me address this man

>> Okay, so first let me address this man

>> Okay, so first let me address this man
cave because it has everything to hang

cave because it has everything to hang

cave because it has everything to hang
out with the boys. A chalkboard, a

out with the boys. A chalkboard, a

out with the boys. A chalkboard, a
typewriter in a box, a second camera in

typewriter in a box, a second camera in

typewriter in a box, a second camera in
frame, and most crucially, three

frame, and most crucially, three

frame, and most crucially, three
staggeringly different seating options.

staggeringly different seating options.

staggeringly different seating options.
You might all be talking, but those

You might all be talking, but those

You might all be talking, but those
pieces couldn't be less in conversation

pieces couldn't be less in conversation

pieces couldn't be less in conversation
with each other. But more importantly,

with each other. But more importantly,

with each other. But more importantly,
the FBI director is actually required by

the FBI director is actually required by

the FBI director is actually required by
law to take the bureau's private plane.

law to take the bureau's private plane.

law to take the bureau's private plane.
But crucially, if the travel is

But crucially, if the travel is

But crucially, if the travel is
personal, they're required to reimburse

personal, they're required to reimburse

personal, they're required to reimburse
the government, though only for the cost

the government, though only for the cost

the government, though only for the cost
of a commercial flight. And Patel's been

of a commercial flight. And Patel's been

of a commercial flight. And Patel's been
using the jet a lot since he took office

using the jet a lot since he took office

using the jet a lot since he took office
to, among other things, go to an

to, among other things, go to an

to, among other things, go to an
exclusive golf resort in Scotland for a

exclusive golf resort in Scotland for a

exclusive golf resort in Scotland for a
getaway with friends and to travel to a

getaway with friends and to travel to a

getaway with friends and to travel to a
real American freestyle wrestling event

real American freestyle wrestling event

real American freestyle wrestling event
where his girlfriend was performing the

where his girlfriend was performing the

where his girlfriend was performing the
national anthem. He then flew to Texas

national anthem. He then flew to Texas

national anthem. He then flew to Texas
to a resort literally called the

to a resort literally called the

to a resort literally called the
Boondoggle Ranch, which would be bad

Boondoggle Ranch, which would be bad

Boondoggle Ranch, which would be bad
enough even if it didn't happen during

enough even if it didn't happen during

enough even if it didn't happen during
the government shutdown and if he

the government shutdown and if he

the government shutdown and if he
weren't hosted by a Republican mega

weren't hosted by a Republican mega

weren't hosted by a Republican mega
donor named, and this is true, Bubba

donor named, and this is true, Bubba

donor named, and this is true, Bubba
Salsbury,

Salsbury,

Salsbury,
which sounds like either the name of a

which sounds like either the name of a

which sounds like either the name of a
baseball player from 1954 who was also

baseball player from 1954 who was also

baseball player from 1954 who was also
in the clan or a dinner special at

in the clan or a dinner special at

in the clan or a dinner special at
Denny's.

Denny's.

Denny's.
And when Patel and his country singer

And when Patel and his country singer

And when Patel and his country singer
girlfriend went on a podcast with Katie

girlfriend went on a podcast with Katie

girlfriend went on a podcast with Katie
Miller, who is Steven Miller's, let me

Miller, who is Steven Miller's, let me

Miller, who is Steven Miller's, let me
make sure I've got this right. Wife,

make sure I've got this right. Wife,

make sure I've got this right. Wife,
he offered up this not great defense.

he offered up this not great defense.

he offered up this not great defense.
>> It's ironic that they're saying, "Oh,

>> It's ironic that they're saying, "Oh,

>> It's ironic that they're saying, "Oh,
you're going on vacation or you're going

you're going on vacation or you're going

you're going on vacation or you're going
to see your girlfriend perform." And if

to see your girlfriend perform." And if

to see your girlfriend perform." And if
I was actually abusing it, I would go

I was actually abusing it, I would go

I was actually abusing it, I would go
see every one of her shows. I think I

see every one of her shows. I think I

see every one of her shows. I think I
get to like 15%.

get to like 15%.

get to like 15%.
>> Oh, so that's okay then. We all know

>> Oh, so that's okay then. We all know

>> Oh, so that's okay then. We all know
it's not abuse if you don't do it as

it's not abuse if you don't do it as

it's not abuse if you don't do it as
much as you technically could. you

much as you technically could. you

much as you technically could. you
deeply weird man. And by the way, if

deeply weird man. And by the way, if

deeply weird man. And by the way, if
you're expecting me to show you a clip

you're expecting me to show you a clip

you're expecting me to show you a clip
of his girlfriend's music, I refuse to

of his girlfriend's music, I refuse to

of his girlfriend's music, I refuse to
do that. I will just point out that if

do that. I will just point out that if

do that. I will just point out that if
you go to the YouTube page for her song

you go to the YouTube page for her song

you go to the YouTube page for her song
Country Back, about how she wants her

Country Back, about how she wants her

Country Back, about how she wants her
country back and scroll down, the top

country back and scroll down, the top

country back and scroll down, the top
comment reads simply, "Damn, Patel

comment reads simply, "Damn, Patel

comment reads simply, "Damn, Patel
borrowed the jet and went to listen to

borrowed the jet and went to listen to

borrowed the jet and went to listen to
this." I I'd love to agree with that

this." I I'd love to agree with that

this." I I'd love to agree with that
except again, he didn't borrow the jet.

except again, he didn't borrow the jet.

except again, he didn't borrow the jet.
We all paid for it. Thousands of dollars

We all paid for it. Thousands of dollars

We all paid for it. Thousands of dollars
to take off. Just a thought. And the

to take off. Just a thought. And the

to take off. Just a thought. And the
thing is, Patel's Olympic trip wasn't

thing is, Patel's Olympic trip wasn't

thing is, Patel's Olympic trip wasn't
even the first time he's been accused of

even the first time he's been accused of

even the first time he's been accused of
treating work like a vacation. Last May,

treating work like a vacation. Last May,

treating work like a vacation. Last May,
he went to the UK for a meeting of the

he went to the UK for a meeting of the

he went to the UK for a meeting of the
Five Eyes, an intelligence alliance with

Five Eyes, an intelligence alliance with

Five Eyes, an intelligence alliance with
close English-speaking allies. And also,

close English-speaking allies. And also,

close English-speaking allies. And also,
by the way, my high school nickname when

by the way, my high school nickname when

by the way, my high school nickname when
bullies determined something stronger

bullies determined something stronger

bullies determined something stronger
than four eyes was required.

than four eyes was required.

than four eyes was required.
And while Patel's UK itinerary was

And while Patel's UK itinerary was

And while Patel's UK itinerary was
tightly packed with important meetings,

tightly packed with important meetings,

tightly packed with important meetings,
according to one senior official, Patel

according to one senior official, Patel

according to one senior official, Patel
wanted to move them to more fun venues

wanted to move them to more fun venues

wanted to move them to more fun venues
because, quote, "He wants premier soccer

because, quote, "He wants premier soccer

because, quote, "He wants premier soccer
games. He wants to go jet skiing. He'd

games. He wants to go jet skiing. He'd

games. He wants to go jet skiing. He'd
like a helicopter tour. His staff only

like a helicopter tour. His staff only

like a helicopter tour. His staff only
cared about three things. What his meals

cared about three things. What his meals

cared about three things. What his meals
were, when his workouts would be, and

were, when his workouts would be, and

were, when his workouts would be, and
what his entertainment would be. The

what his entertainment would be. The

what his entertainment would be. The
biggest plan is how he's going to get

biggest plan is how he's going to get

biggest plan is how he's going to get
his girlfriend in there so she can go to

his girlfriend in there so she can go to

his girlfriend in there so she can go to
Windsor Castle, which feels like what a

Windsor Castle, which feels like what a

Windsor Castle, which feels like what a
15-year-old boy thinks a trip to England

15-year-old boy thinks a trip to England

15-year-old boy thinks a trip to England
is. Soccer, jet ski with James Bond's

is. Soccer, jet ski with James Bond's

is. Soccer, jet ski with James Bond's
boss, and take your girlfriend to the

boss, and take your girlfriend to the

boss, and take your girlfriend to the
castle. I'm going to show her the full

castle. I'm going to show her the full

castle. I'm going to show her the full
agent Cody Banks.

agent Cody Banks.

agent Cody Banks.
And it can seem like Mattel's much more

And it can seem like Mattel's much more

And it can seem like Mattel's much more
interested in the trappings of his job

interested in the trappings of his job

interested in the trappings of his job
than the job itself. For instance, at

than the job itself. For instance, at

than the job itself. For instance, at
one point he ordered special extra-large

one point he ordered special extra-large

one point he ordered special extra-large
challenge coins to hand out, which

challenge coins to hand out, which

challenge coins to hand out, which
looked like this. And I assume he hands

looked like this. And I assume he hands

looked like this. And I assume he hands
them out after only the sickest quests

them out after only the sickest quests

them out after only the sickest quests
like completing no nut November or

like completing no nut November or

like completing no nut November or
failing anger management. They look like

failing anger management. They look like

failing anger management. They look like
the currency you use to pay for a

the currency you use to pay for a

the currency you use to pay for a
divorce. But the thing is, this fixation

divorce. But the thing is, this fixation

divorce. But the thing is, this fixation
on optics can make him very bad at his

on optics can make him very bad at his

on optics can make him very bad at his
job. Take what happened last September

job. Take what happened last September

job. Take what happened last September
after Charlie Kirk was shot. Within

after Charlie Kirk was shot. Within

after Charlie Kirk was shot. Within
hours, Patel took to Twitter to announce

hours, Patel took to Twitter to announce

hours, Patel took to Twitter to announce
that the subject for the horrific

that the subject for the horrific

that the subject for the horrific
shooting today is now in custody. Only

shooting today is now in custody. Only

shooting today is now in custody. Only
two 98 minutes later have to follow that

two 98 minutes later have to follow that

two 98 minutes later have to follow that
with a tweet saying, "The subject in

with a tweet saying, "The subject in

with a tweet saying, "The subject in
custody has been released." And in the

custody has been released." And in the

custody has been released." And in the
words of one FBI veteran, "It wasn't a

words of one FBI veteran, "It wasn't a

words of one FBI veteran, "It wasn't a
good look." Which does make sense, among

good look." Which does make sense, among

good look." Which does make sense, among
other things. Patel's first post sure

other things. Patel's first post sure

other things. Patel's first post sure
made it sound like people could stop

made it sound like people could stop

made it sound like people could stop
worrying about an armed shooter on the

worrying about an armed shooter on the

worrying about an armed shooter on the
loose when that was not the case. And

loose when that was not the case. And

loose when that was not the case. And
yet he stood by his actions.

yet he stood by his actions.

yet he stood by his actions.
>> Could I have worded it a little better

>> Could I have worded it a little better

>> Could I have worded it a little better
in the heat of the moment? Sure. But do

in the heat of the moment? Sure. But do

in the heat of the moment? Sure. But do
I regret putting it out? Absolutely not.

I regret putting it out? Absolutely not.

I regret putting it out? Absolutely not.
I was telling the world what the FBI was

I was telling the world what the FBI was

I was telling the world what the FBI was
doing as we were doing. And I'm

doing as we were doing. And I'm

doing as we were doing. And I'm
continuing to do that. And I challenge

continuing to do that. And I challenge

continuing to do that. And I challenge
anyone out there to find a director that

anyone out there to find a director that

anyone out there to find a director that
has been more transparent and more

has been more transparent and more

has been more transparent and more
willing to work the media on

willing to work the media on

willing to work the media on
high-profile cases or any case the FBI

high-profile cases or any case the FBI

high-profile cases or any case the FBI
is handling.

is handling.

is handling.
>> Okay. But the FBI director shouldn't be

>> Okay. But the FBI director shouldn't be

>> Okay. But the FBI director shouldn't be
working the media for likes. You're

working the media for likes. You're

working the media for likes. You're
supposed to be solving the case, not

supposed to be solving the case, not

supposed to be solving the case, not
providing running commentary. There is a

providing running commentary. There is a

providing running commentary. There is a
reason the CIA has never sent out a

reason the CIA has never sent out a

reason the CIA has never sent out a
press release saying we think we found

press release saying we think we found

press release saying we think we found
an alien and then 90 minutes later had

an alien and then 90 minutes later had

an alien and then 90 minutes later had
to say never mind. It was just a

to say never mind. It was just a

to say never mind. It was just a
up looking squirrel. And the chaos in

up looking squirrel. And the chaos in

up looking squirrel. And the chaos in
the Kirk investigation continued once

the Kirk investigation continued once

the Kirk investigation continued once
Patel landed in Utah. Because according

Patel landed in Utah. Because according

Patel landed in Utah. Because according
to one senior leader in counter

to one senior leader in counter

to one senior leader in counter
intelligence, Patel didn't have a rage

intelligence, Patel didn't have a rage

intelligence, Patel didn't have a rage
jacket and reportedly ordered people to

jacket and reportedly ordered people to

jacket and reportedly ordered people to
go find him one. He needed a size

go find him one. He needed a size

go find him one. He needed a size
medium. They found him a female's jacket

medium. They found him a female's jacket

medium. They found him a female's jacket
that didn't have the patches that he

that didn't have the patches that he

that didn't have the patches that he
wanted. So, he had the SWAT team taking

wanted. So, he had the SWAT team taking

wanted. So, he had the SWAT team taking
the patches off to put on his jacket

the patches off to put on his jacket

the patches off to put on his jacket
before he'd go to the press conference.

before he'd go to the press conference.

before he'd go to the press conference.
And sure enough, that is what he then

And sure enough, that is what he then

And sure enough, that is what he then
wore. Now, I do have to tell you, he

wore. Now, I do have to tell you, he

wore. Now, I do have to tell you, he
disputes that account and even went on

disputes that account and even went on

disputes that account and even went on
Fox News to work the media on the story.

Fox News to work the media on the story.

Fox News to work the media on the story.
>> I was honoring my men and women at the

>> I was honoring my men and women at the

>> I was honoring my men and women at the
FBI. One of my agents handed me a jacket

FBI. One of my agents handed me a jacket

FBI. One of my agents handed me a jacket
and said, "Hey boss, you should probably

and said, "Hey boss, you should probably

and said, "Hey boss, you should probably
wear this. We're going into the command

wear this. We're going into the command

wear this. We're going into the command
center." I said, "I'd be honored to wear

center." I said, "I'd be honored to wear

center." I said, "I'd be honored to wear
that." And then another one handed me

that." And then another one handed me

that." And then another one handed me
the SWAT team badge of the unit that was

the SWAT team badge of the unit that was

the SWAT team badge of the unit that was
protecting the area where Charlie was

protecting the area where Charlie was

protecting the area where Charlie was
assassinated. I wore that with pride.

assassinated. I wore that with pride.

assassinated. I wore that with pride.
>> I mean, okay. Although, to be fair, Cash

>> I mean, okay. Although, to be fair, Cash

>> I mean, okay. Although, to be fair, Cash
wearing something with pride isn't

wearing something with pride isn't

wearing something with pride isn't
exactly a high bar given he might be the

exactly a high bar given he might be the

exactly a high bar given he might be the
first FBI director who has his own

first FBI director who has his own

first FBI director who has his own
apparel line. And yes, that is a logo

apparel line. And yes, that is a logo

apparel line. And yes, that is a logo
featuring Trump as the Punisher as

featuring Trump as the Punisher as

featuring Trump as the Punisher as
Santa. And yes, his hat does say K

Santa. And yes, his hat does say K

Santa. And yes, his hat does say K
dollar sign H, which I do get is

dollar sign H, which I do get is

dollar sign H, which I do get is
supposed to stand for cash, but it makes

supposed to stand for cash, but it makes

supposed to stand for cash, but it makes
him look more like he's in a shitty

him look more like he's in a shitty

him look more like he's in a shitty
Kesha cover band. But wait, cuz it gets

Kesha cover band. But wait, cuz it gets

Kesha cover band. But wait, cuz it gets
even worse. Cuz when Patel and his then

even worse. Cuz when Patel and his then

even worse. Cuz when Patel and his then
deputy Dan Bonino joined a conference

deputy Dan Bonino joined a conference

deputy Dan Bonino joined a conference
call about the shooting, FBI officials

call about the shooting, FBI officials

call about the shooting, FBI officials
were apparently shocked by their

were apparently shocked by their

were apparently shocked by their
fixation on social media with one saying

fixation on social media with one saying

fixation on social media with one saying
of Patel, "He's screaming that he wants

of Patel, "He's screaming that he wants

of Patel, "He's screaming that he wants
to put stuff out, but it's not even

to put stuff out, but it's not even

to put stuff out, but it's not even
vetted yet. It's not even accurate."

vetted yet. It's not even accurate."

vetted yet. It's not even accurate."
Everyone on the call is just like, "This

Everyone on the call is just like, "This

Everyone on the call is just like, "This
guy is completely out of control." And

guy is completely out of control." And

guy is completely out of control." And
let's just agree, you should never be on

let's just agree, you should never be on

let's just agree, you should never be on
any conference call thinking, "This guy

any conference call thinking, "This guy

any conference call thinking, "This guy
is out of control." At worst, you should

is out of control." At worst, you should

is out of control." At worst, you should
be thinking, "If I died right now, would

be thinking, "If I died right now, would

be thinking, "If I died right now, would
anyone notice? Would anyone care?"

anyone notice? Would anyone care?"

anyone notice? Would anyone care?"
And it says something that by the time

And it says something that by the time

And it says something that by the time
Kirk's alleged killer turned himself in,

Kirk's alleged killer turned himself in,

Kirk's alleged killer turned himself in,
Utah's governor, Spencer Cox, had taken

Utah's governor, Spencer Cox, had taken

Utah's governor, Spencer Cox, had taken
the lead in handling the press with a

the lead in handling the press with a

the lead in handling the press with a
source telling Fox News that quote,

source telling Fox News that quote,

source telling Fox News that quote,
"Letting Cash talk much could up

"Letting Cash talk much could up

"Letting Cash talk much could up
the prosecution." The point is, Patel

the prosecution." The point is, Patel

the prosecution." The point is, Patel
seems in way over his head. But weirdly,

seems in way over his head. But weirdly,

seems in way over his head. But weirdly,
Trump might actually like that right

Trump might actually like that right

Trump might actually like that right
now, given that there are certain areas

now, given that there are certain areas

now, given that there are certain areas
where he might prefer loyalty over

where he might prefer loyalty over

where he might prefer loyalty over
competence. Most notably, the Epstein

competence. Most notably, the Epstein

competence. Most notably, the Epstein
case. Cuz before Patel became FBI

case. Cuz before Patel became FBI

case. Cuz before Patel became FBI
director, he insisted that the agency

director, he insisted that the agency

director, he insisted that the agency
could release an alleged list of people

could release an alleged list of people

could release an alleged list of people
Epstein had trafficked underage girls

Epstein had trafficked underage girls

Epstein had trafficked underage girls
to. And he was incredulous the

to. And he was incredulous the

to. And he was incredulous the
Republicans hadn't already demanded

Republicans hadn't already demanded

Republicans hadn't already demanded
that.

that.

that.
>> What the hell are the House Republicans

>> What the hell are the House Republicans

>> What the hell are the House Republicans
doing? They have the majority. You can't

doing? They have the majority. You can't

doing? They have the majority. You can't
get the list. You're gonna accept Dick

get the list. You're gonna accept Dick

get the list. You're gonna accept Dick
Durban's word or whoever that guy is as

Durban's word or whoever that guy is as

Durban's word or whoever that guy is as
to who is on that list and who isn't and

to who is on that list and who isn't and

to who is on that list and who isn't and
that it can and can't be released. Put

that it can and can't be released. Put

that it can and can't be released. Put
on your big boy pants and let us know

on your big boy pants and let us know

on your big boy pants and let us know
who the pedophiles are. Wait, wait. Put

who the pedophiles are. Wait, wait. Put

who the pedophiles are. Wait, wait. Put
on your big boy pants. I'm not sure

on your big boy pants. I'm not sure

on your big boy pants. I'm not sure
that's the language I'd use to talk

that's the language I'd use to talk

that's the language I'd use to talk
about catching pedophiles,

about catching pedophiles,

about catching pedophiles,
given it sounds more like the slogan for

given it sounds more like the slogan for

given it sounds more like the slogan for
a clothing line started by Jared from

a clothing line started by Jared from

a clothing line started by Jared from
Subway. But Patel's now singing a very

Subway. But Patel's now singing a very

Subway. But Patel's now singing a very
different tune, arguing there's no

different tune, arguing there's no

different tune, arguing there's no
credible information Epstein trafficked

credible information Epstein trafficked

credible information Epstein trafficked
young women to anyone beside himself.

young women to anyone beside himself.

young women to anyone beside himself.
And whenever the subject of Trump's name

And whenever the subject of Trump's name

And whenever the subject of Trump's name
being in the files has come up, things

being in the files has come up, things

being in the files has come up, things
have been noticeably tense.

have been noticeably tense.

have been noticeably tense.
>> Did you tell the attorney general that

>> Did you tell the attorney general that

>> Did you tell the attorney general that
the president's name is in the Epstein

the president's name is in the Epstein

the president's name is in the Epstein
files?

files?

files?
>> During many conversations that the

>> During many conversations that the

>> During many conversations that the
attorney general and I have had on the

attorney general and I have had on the

attorney general and I have had on the
matter of Epstein, we have reviewed

matter of Epstein, we have reviewed

matter of Epstein, we have reviewed
>> The question is simple. Did you tell the

>> The question is simple. Did you tell the

>> The question is simple. Did you tell the
attorney general that Donald Trump's

attorney general that Donald Trump's

attorney general that Donald Trump's
name is in the Epstein files? Yes or no?

name is in the Epstein files? Yes or no?

name is in the Epstein files? Yes or no?
>> Why don't you try spelling it out?

>> Why don't you try spelling it out?

>> Why don't you try spelling it out?
>> Yes or no? Director,

>> Yes or no? Director,

>> Yes or no? Director,
>> use the alphabet.

>> use the alphabet.

>> use the alphabet.
>> Yes or no?

>> Yes or no?

>> Yes or no?
>> No. ABC.

>> No. ABC.

>> No. ABC.
>> Director, did

>> Director, did

>> Director, did
>> Oh, you got him. You got him so good.

>> Oh, you got him. You got him so good.

>> Oh, you got him. You got him so good.
>> By the way, later in that hearing, a

>> By the way, later in that hearing, a

>> By the way, later in that hearing, a
photo show Patel holding a note reading,

photo show Patel holding a note reading,

photo show Patel holding a note reading,
"Good fight with Swallwell. Hold the

"Good fight with Swallwell. Hold the

"Good fight with Swallwell. Hold the
line." And I don't know what would be a

line." And I don't know what would be a

line." And I don't know what would be a
more embarrassing explanation there,

more embarrassing explanation there,

more embarrassing explanation there,
whether he wrote that note to himself or

whether he wrote that note to himself or

whether he wrote that note to himself or
his mom wrote it and slipped it into his

his mom wrote it and slipped it into his

his mom wrote it and slipped it into his
Tasmanian devil lunchbox.

Tasmanian devil lunchbox.

Tasmanian devil lunchbox.
And his defensiveness there is striking.

And his defensiveness there is striking.

And his defensiveness there is striking.
Now the files are being released and

Now the files are being released and

Now the files are being released and
Trump's name is all over them. And while

Trump's name is all over them. And while

Trump's name is all over them. And while
that doesn't necessarily show evidence

that doesn't necessarily show evidence

that doesn't necessarily show evidence
of wrongdoing, this week NPR scrutinized

of wrongdoing, this week NPR scrutinized

of wrongdoing, this week NPR scrutinized
the files and reveals something odd.

the files and reveals something odd.

the files and reveals something odd.
>> The spotlight tonight on what's not in

>> The spotlight tonight on what's not in

>> The spotlight tonight on what's not in
the millions of Epstein files released

the millions of Epstein files released

the millions of Epstein files released
by the DOJ. summaries and notes from

by the DOJ. summaries and notes from

by the DOJ. summaries and notes from
three separate interviews the FBI

three separate interviews the FBI

three separate interviews the FBI
conducted with a Jeffrey Epstein accuser

conducted with a Jeffrey Epstein accuser

conducted with a Jeffrey Epstein accuser
who also made sex abuse allegations

who also made sex abuse allegations

who also made sex abuse allegations
against President Trump in 2019.

against President Trump in 2019.

against President Trump in 2019.
>> Yeah, that looks pretty damning. In

>> Yeah, that looks pretty damning. In

>> Yeah, that looks pretty damning. In
fact, the only thing that could be any

fact, the only thing that could be any

fact, the only thing that could be any
more suspicious is if we eventually find

more suspicious is if we eventually find

more suspicious is if we eventually find
out that the night Epstein died, Trump

out that the night Epstein died, Trump

out that the night Epstein died, Trump
was caught buying a bunch of rope at

was caught buying a bunch of rope at

was caught buying a bunch of rope at
Home Depot. And look, I'm not sure how

Home Depot. And look, I'm not sure how

Home Depot. And look, I'm not sure how
long Patel is going to stay in this job.

long Patel is going to stay in this job.

long Patel is going to stay in this job.
Trump's reportedly displeased with his

Trump's reportedly displeased with his

Trump's reportedly displeased with his
Olympics hijinks. But as stupid as that

Olympics hijinks. But as stupid as that

Olympics hijinks. But as stupid as that
locker room footage is, and it's very,

locker room footage is, and it's very,

locker room footage is, and it's very,
very stupid. It may actually be the

very stupid. It may actually be the

very stupid. It may actually be the
perfect encapsulation of his tenure at

perfect encapsulation of his tenure at

perfect encapsulation of his tenure at
the FBI. Cuz think about it, he's in

the FBI. Cuz think about it, he's in

the FBI. Cuz think about it, he's in
somewhere that he doesn't belong,

somewhere that he doesn't belong,

somewhere that he doesn't belong,
wearing something that makes him look

wearing something that makes him look

wearing something that makes him look
ridiculous and objectively having way

ridiculous and objectively having way

ridiculous and objectively having way
too good of a time. And when all of this

too good of a time. And when all of this

too good of a time. And when all of this
is said and done, and he's eventually

is said and done, and he's eventually

is said and done, and he's eventually
gone, someone else is going to have to

gone, someone else is going to have to

gone, someone else is going to have to
clean up his mess. And now this.

clean up his mess. And now this.

clean up his mess. And now this.
And now the Dan Bonino Show is back and

And now the Dan Bonino Show is back and

And now the Dan Bonino Show is back and
it is weird as It is good to see

it is weird as It is good to see

it is weird as It is good to see
you guys and ladies out there. It's been

you guys and ladies out there. It's been

you guys and ladies out there. It's been
a crazy year. For those of you watching

a crazy year. For those of you watching

a crazy year. For those of you watching
the show right now, we are obviously

the show right now, we are obviously

the show right now, we are obviously
live my watch. Well, like anybody can

live my watch. Well, like anybody can

live my watch. Well, like anybody can
set a time and a watch, but you get the

set a time and a watch, but you get the

set a time and a watch, but you get the
point. I think it's fairly obvious. And

point. I think it's fairly obvious. And

point. I think it's fairly obvious. And
I'm going to tell you something. I ate

I'm going to tell you something. I ate

I'm going to tell you something. I ate
this morning for the first time in three

this morning for the first time in three

this morning for the first time in three
days. And man, I feel like a million

days. And man, I feel like a million

days. And man, I feel like a million
dollars. So, just throwing that out

dollars. So, just throwing that out

dollars. So, just throwing that out
there. Elbow's a little sore this

there. Elbow's a little sore this

there. Elbow's a little sore this
morning. I was putting on a shirt the

morning. I was putting on a shirt the

morning. I was putting on a shirt the
other day. My elbow snapped back and it

other day. My elbow snapped back and it

other day. My elbow snapped back and it
is like killing me this morning. I had

is like killing me this morning. I had

is like killing me this morning. I had
to take an Advil when I got up. I'm

to take an Advil when I got up. I'm

to take an Advil when I got up. I'm
like, "What the hell?" Sorry, my eye

like, "What the hell?" Sorry, my eye

like, "What the hell?" Sorry, my eye
getting a little red. I feel like I have

getting a little red. I feel like I have

getting a little red. I feel like I have
a little something in my eye there. You

a little something in my eye there. You

a little something in my eye there. You
see how it's a little red over there?

see how it's a little red over there?

see how it's a little red over there?
I know. I drink funny. I told you I got

I know. I drink funny. I told you I got

I know. I drink funny. I told you I got
arthritis in my elbow. Nothing like

arthritis in my elbow. Nothing like

arthritis in my elbow. Nothing like
being a dad. I don't have any any boys.

being a dad. I don't have any any boys.

being a dad. I don't have any any boys.
I I got to tell you, I wish I had I I've

I I got to tell you, I wish I had I I've

I I got to tell you, I wish I had I I've
got an older daughter and a younger

got an older daughter and a younger

got an older daughter and a younger
daughter and uh they're pretty far

daughter and uh they're pretty far

daughter and uh they're pretty far
apart. I probably should have had one in

apart. I probably should have had one in

apart. I probably should have had one in
between and taken a shot. I'm I'm one of

between and taken a shot. I'm I'm one of

between and taken a shot. I'm I'm one of
three boys. I have a step, but I never

three boys. I have a step, but I never

three boys. I have a step, but I never
had a you know, a boy. Hey, Dick.

had a you know, a boy. Hey, Dick.

had a you know, a boy. Hey, Dick.
Dicko.

Dicko.

Dicko.
Dicky.

Dicky.

Dicky.
Hey, Dicko. Did you see that? They call

Hey, Dicko. Did you see that? They call

Hey, Dicko. Did you see that? They call
you Dicko. my friends

you Dicko. my friends

you Dicko. my friends
Dicky Dicko or something like my some of

Dicky Dicko or something like my some of

Dicky Dicko or something like my some of
my friends call me Dano. Maybe they call

my friends call me Dano. Maybe they call

my friends call me Dano. Maybe they call
him Dicko. I don't know. I don't know. I

him Dicko. I don't know. I don't know. I

him Dicko. I don't know. I don't know. I
don't know.

don't know.

don't know.
You don't have to like speculate on

You don't have to like speculate on

You don't have to like speculate on
what?

That was my plastic cigar. Don't get

That was my plastic cigar. Don't get
distracted because if there's a there

distracted because if there's a there

distracted because if there's a there
there, don't get into another there

there, don't get into another there

there, don't get into another there
that's not there because it takes away

that's not there because it takes away

that's not there because it takes away
from the there that's there. Do you get

from the there that's there. Do you get

from the there that's there. Do you get
my point?

Moving on, our main story tonight

Moving on, our main story tonight
concerns the police. The main thing

concerns the police. The main thing

concerns the police. The main thing
Steven Seagal pretends to be, aside from

Steven Seagal pretends to be, aside from

Steven Seagal pretends to be, aside from
a guy whose hair is naturally black. I'm

a guy whose hair is naturally black. I'm

a guy whose hair is naturally black. I'm
sorry, but the only way you get that

sorry, but the only way you get that

sorry, but the only way you get that
color is by dunking your head into a vat

color is by dunking your head into a vat

color is by dunking your head into a vat
of printer ink. Specifically, we're

of printer ink. Specifically, we're

of printer ink. Specifically, we're
going to talk about a particular tool

going to talk about a particular tool

going to talk about a particular tool
police use that is responsible for,

police use that is responsible for,

police use that is responsible for,
among other things, this incredible

among other things, this incredible

among other things, this incredible
story.

story.

story.
>> A shocking scene for kids at a

>> A shocking scene for kids at a

>> A shocking scene for kids at a
Chuck-E-Cheese. One minute they are just

Chuck-E-Cheese. One minute they are just

Chuck-E-Cheese. One minute they are just
having fun and then all of a sudden

having fun and then all of a sudden

having fun and then all of a sudden
police rush in and put Chuck-E-Cheese in

police rush in and put Chuck-E-Cheese in

police rush in and put Chuck-E-Cheese in
handcuffs.

handcuffs.

handcuffs.
>> We're going to detain detain the mouse.

>> We're going to detain detain the mouse.

>> We're going to detain detain the mouse.
Do you are

Do you are

Do you are
>> not one to

>> not one to

>> not one to
the suspect. He stole someone's card

the suspect. He stole someone's card

the suspect. He stole someone's card
here and has been using it. Uh someone

here and has been using it. Uh someone

here and has been using it. Uh someone
that was one of your uh employees like

that was one of your uh employees like

that was one of your uh employees like
classmate or something like that. So

classmate or something like that. So

classmate or something like that. So
>> yeah. Yeah.

Wow, there is a lot going on there. From

Wow, there is a lot going on there. From
the kid screaming, "CHUCKY, NO." TO THE

the kid screaming, "CHUCKY, NO." TO THE

the kid screaming, "CHUCKY, NO." TO THE
PHRASE, "We're going to detain the

PHRASE, "We're going to detain the

PHRASE, "We're going to detain the
mouse, dude." Which sounds like what an

mouse, dude." Which sounds like what an

mouse, dude." Which sounds like what an
ICE agent would say if Fival tried to

ICE agent would say if Fival tried to

ICE agent would say if Fival tried to
immigrate to America today. That arrest

immigrate to America today. That arrest

immigrate to America today. That arrest
is one of many videos we've only been

is one of many videos we've only been

is one of many videos we've only been
able to see thanks to police body

able to see thanks to police body

able to see thanks to police body
cameras, the devices that give us a

cameras, the devices that give us a

cameras, the devices that give us a
nipples eye view of law enforcement's

nipples eye view of law enforcement's

nipples eye view of law enforcement's
interactions with the public. They are

interactions with the public. They are

interactions with the public. They are
ubiquitous now, but body cams are still

ubiquitous now, but body cams are still

ubiquitous now, but body cams are still
fairly new. As recently as 2013, only a

fairly new. As recently as 2013, only a

fairly new. As recently as 2013, only a
third of police departments had them.

third of police departments had them.

third of police departments had them.
But by 2020, 79% of officers reported

But by 2020, 79% of officers reported

But by 2020, 79% of officers reported
working in departments with bodywn

working in departments with bodywn

working in departments with bodywn
cameras. To the point, it's been said

cameras. To the point, it's been said

cameras. To the point, it's been said
that they represent the largest new

that they represent the largest new

that they represent the largest new
investment in policing in a generation.

investment in policing in a generation.

investment in policing in a generation.
And body cams have been viewed as a

And body cams have been viewed as a

And body cams have been viewed as a
popular solution to problems regarding

popular solution to problems regarding

popular solution to problems regarding
transparency in law enforcement, which

transparency in law enforcement, which

transparency in law enforcement, which
may be why a key democratic demand right

may be why a key democratic demand right

may be why a key democratic demand right
now for ending the shutdown of funding

now for ending the shutdown of funding

now for ending the shutdown of funding
to DHS involves this catchy phrase. We

to DHS involves this catchy phrase. We

to DHS involves this catchy phrase. We
want there to be masks off, body cameras

want there to be masks off, body cameras

want there to be masks off, body cameras
on.

on.

on.
>> Masks off, body cameras on.

>> Masks off, body cameras on.

>> Masks off, body cameras on.
>> We want masks off, body cameras on.

>> We want masks off, body cameras on.

>> We want masks off, body cameras on.
>> Stirring stuff. That is the leader of

>> Stirring stuff. That is the leader of

>> Stirring stuff. That is the leader of
the opposition there. And that is truly

the opposition there. And that is truly

the opposition there. And that is truly
the best he's got. Honestly, you could

the best he's got. Honestly, you could

the best he's got. Honestly, you could
set a white noise machine to fiery Chuck

set a white noise machine to fiery Chuck

set a white noise machine to fiery Chuck
Schumer speech and get a full 8 hours.

Schumer speech and get a full 8 hours.

Schumer speech and get a full 8 hours.
And the truth is, body cams can seem

And the truth is, body cams can seem

And the truth is, body cams can seem
like a great tool for increasing

like a great tool for increasing

like a great tool for increasing
accountability and building trust. and

accountability and building trust. and

accountability and building trust. and
cops themselves tend to value them too,

cops themselves tend to value them too,

cops themselves tend to value them too,
though for slightly different reasons

though for slightly different reasons

though for slightly different reasons
than the rest of us, as for them, it's

than the rest of us, as for them, it's

than the rest of us, as for them, it's
more about reducing frivolous or false

more about reducing frivolous or false

more about reducing frivolous or false
complaints. In fact, according to a 2018

complaints. In fact, according to a 2018

complaints. In fact, according to a 2018
survey, while just 34% of local police

survey, while just 34% of local police

survey, while just 34% of local police
and sheriff's officers said they

and sheriff's officers said they

and sheriff's officers said they
acquired body warn cameras to reduce use

acquired body warn cameras to reduce use

acquired body warn cameras to reduce use
of force, nearly 80% wanted them in

of force, nearly 80% wanted them in

of force, nearly 80% wanted them in
order to do things like improve officer

order to do things like improve officer

order to do things like improve officer
safety, increase evidence quality,

safety, increase evidence quality,

safety, increase evidence quality,
reduce civilian complaints, and reduce

reduce civilian complaints, and reduce

reduce civilian complaints, and reduce
agency liability. And look, ideally, you

agency liability. And look, ideally, you

agency liability. And look, ideally, you
could have all of those things. In fact,

could have all of those things. In fact,

could have all of those things. In fact,
as this police captain in Virginia sees

as this police captain in Virginia sees

as this police captain in Virginia sees
it, the best case scenario for body cams

it, the best case scenario for body cams

it, the best case scenario for body cams
is them improving everyone's behavior.

is them improving everyone's behavior.

is them improving everyone's behavior.
When a camera is present, everyone acts

When a camera is present, everyone acts

When a camera is present, everyone acts
a little bit better. So perhaps this is

a little bit better. So perhaps this is

a little bit better. So perhaps this is
an opportunity for us to deescalate an

an opportunity for us to deescalate an

an opportunity for us to deescalate an
incident. If something is very very

incident. If something is very very

incident. If something is very very
escalated, um it'll be a reminder to

escalated, um it'll be a reminder to

escalated, um it'll be a reminder to
everyone involved and include the the

everyone involved and include the the

everyone involved and include the the
officers and the public that a camera is

officers and the public that a camera is

officers and the public that a camera is
present and hopefully that we all are

present and hopefully that we all are

present and hopefully that we all are
acting a little bit better, a little

acting a little bit better, a little

acting a little bit better, a little
more civil to each other.

more civil to each other.

more civil to each other.
>> Well, that certainly sounds nice,

>> Well, that certainly sounds nice,

>> Well, that certainly sounds nice,
doesn't it? Although when a camera's

doesn't it? Although when a camera's

doesn't it? Although when a camera's
present, everyone acts a bit better. Is

present, everyone acts a bit better. Is

present, everyone acts a bit better. Is
an observation from someone who clearly

an observation from someone who clearly

an observation from someone who clearly
doesn't watch reality TV. A world in

doesn't watch reality TV. A world in

doesn't watch reality TV. A world in
which a camera's presence is your cue to

which a camera's presence is your cue to

which a camera's presence is your cue to
throw a glass of penog grigio into

throw a glass of penog grigio into

throw a glass of penog grigio into
someone's face and call them a in

someone's face and call them a in

someone's face and call them a in
the middle of a nice restaurant. Still,

the middle of a nice restaurant. Still,

the middle of a nice restaurant. Still,
that notion that body cams can be a way

that notion that body cams can be a way

that notion that body cams can be a way
of calming down interactions with law

of calming down interactions with law

of calming down interactions with law
enforcement is appealing. And it may be

enforcement is appealing. And it may be

enforcement is appealing. And it may be
why it seems we're about to slap them on

why it seems we're about to slap them on

why it seems we're about to slap them on
the chest of all ICE agents across the

the chest of all ICE agents across the

the chest of all ICE agents across the
country in the name of accountability.

country in the name of accountability.

country in the name of accountability.
But the thing is the more you look into

But the thing is the more you look into

But the thing is the more you look into
body cams the more you realize they are

body cams the more you realize they are

body cams the more you realize they are
only effective if they are used properly

only effective if they are used properly

only effective if they are used properly
and in many cases they are just not. So

and in many cases they are just not. So

and in many cases they are just not. So
given that tonight let's talk about body

given that tonight let's talk about body

given that tonight let's talk about body
cams and let's start with the fact that

cams and let's start with the fact that

cams and let's start with the fact that
straight away there are certain

straight away there are certain

straight away there are certain
limitations to what they can tell us as

limitations to what they can tell us as

limitations to what they can tell us as
because of their field of view they

because of their field of view they

because of their field of view they
can't capture the full context of

can't capture the full context of

can't capture the full context of
everything going on. And while I think

everything going on. And while I think

everything going on. And while I think
you probably already get that just watch

you probably already get that just watch

you probably already get that just watch
as this today's show reporter

as this today's show reporter

as this today's show reporter
demonstrates it in the weirdest possible

demonstrates it in the weirdest possible

demonstrates it in the weirdest possible
way. Seth is putting on a body camera.

way. Seth is putting on a body camera.

way. Seth is putting on a body camera.
My producer Jovana is off to the side

My producer Jovana is off to the side

My producer Jovana is off to the side
shooting from a distance on her iPhone

shooting from a distance on her iPhone

shooting from a distance on her iPhone
to give us the complete picture like a

to give us the complete picture like a

to give us the complete picture like a
bystander would. Scenario one, something

bystander would. Scenario one, something

bystander would. Scenario one, something
Seth calls deceptive intensity.

Seth calls deceptive intensity.

Seth calls deceptive intensity.
Watch this body camera footage closely.

Watch this body camera footage closely.

Watch this body camera footage closely.
What's happening here?

What's happening here?

What's happening here?
>> All right. Now, let's look from the

>> All right. Now, let's look from the

>> All right. Now, let's look from the
bystander's iPhone.

bystander's iPhone.

bystander's iPhone.
>> That's right. No brawl here. Just really

>> That's right. No brawl here. Just really

>> That's right. No brawl here. Just really
bad dancing. Okay, I will admit that

bad dancing. Okay, I will admit that

bad dancing. Okay, I will admit that
demonstration was effective because the

demonstration was effective because the

demonstration was effective because the
body cam footage did look like a violent

body cam footage did look like a violent

body cam footage did look like a violent
brawl when we now know they were in fact

brawl when we now know they were in fact

brawl when we now know they were in fact
doing a Richard Simmons workout at each

doing a Richard Simmons workout at each

doing a Richard Simmons workout at each
other. And that's not the only weird

other. And that's not the only weird

other. And that's not the only weird
demonstration like that. Interpretation

demonstration like that. Interpretation

demonstration like that. Interpretation
can be very misleading. For example,

can be very misleading. For example,

can be very misleading. For example,
you, the viewer at home, can only see me

you, the viewer at home, can only see me

you, the viewer at home, can only see me
from the chest up. You have no idea

from the chest up. You have no idea

from the chest up. You have no idea
what's in my hand. However, the view

what's in my hand. However, the view

what's in my hand. However, the view
from a second camera may show that I am

from a second camera may show that I am

from a second camera may show that I am
holding what appears to be a gun when in

holding what appears to be a gun when in

holding what appears to be a gun when in
reality I'm just holding a flashlight.

reality I'm just holding a flashlight.

reality I'm just holding a flashlight.
>> Okay, I'll be honest. That felt less

>> Okay, I'll be honest. That felt less

>> Okay, I'll be honest. That felt less
like a local news segment and more like

like a local news segment and more like

like a local news segment and more like
the routine of the world's worst

the routine of the world's worst

the routine of the world's worst
birthday magician. Gather around, kids,

birthday magician. Gather around, kids,

birthday magician. Gather around, kids,
for my first trick. You probably think I

for my first trick. You probably think I

for my first trick. You probably think I
have a gun in my hand, but it's actually

have a gun in my hand, but it's actually

have a gun in my hand, but it's actually
a flashlight. What's that? Your parents

a flashlight. What's that? Your parents

a flashlight. What's that? Your parents
want their money back. No problem.

want their money back. No problem.

want their money back. No problem.
Here's their money. Or is it actually

Here's their money. Or is it actually

Here's their money. Or is it actually
another flashlight?

another flashlight?

another flashlight?
But those examples, while ridiculous, do

But those examples, while ridiculous, do

But those examples, while ridiculous, do
show how hard it can be to interpret

show how hard it can be to interpret

show how hard it can be to interpret
what's captured on video. But the audio

what's captured on video. But the audio

what's captured on video. But the audio
can be deceptive as well. Take this

can be deceptive as well. Take this

can be deceptive as well. Take this
example from Florida, where the shouts

example from Florida, where the shouts

example from Florida, where the shouts
of officers wound up shaping a very

of officers wound up shaping a very

of officers wound up shaping a very
misleading narrative.

misleading narrative.

misleading narrative.
>> Officers were wearing bodywn cameras and

>> Officers were wearing bodywn cameras and

>> Officers were wearing bodywn cameras and
they were chasing after an individual.

they were chasing after an individual.

they were chasing after an individual.
>> He walked over to the sidewalk and lay

>> He walked over to the sidewalk and lay

>> He walked over to the sidewalk and lay
down on the sidewalk spread eagled.

You can hear on the body warn camera

You can hear on the body warn camera
footage officers screaming, you know,

footage officers screaming, you know,

footage officers screaming, you know,
stop resisting, stop resisting.

stop resisting, stop resisting.

stop resisting, stop resisting.
>> Okay, GET YOUR HAND BEHIND YOU.

>> Okay, GET YOUR HAND BEHIND YOU.

>> Okay, GET YOUR HAND BEHIND YOU.
>> STOP RESISTING.

>> STOP RESISTING.

>> STOP RESISTING.
>> GET YOUR HANDS.

>> GET YOUR HANDS.

>> GET YOUR HANDS.
>> STOP RESISTING.

>> STOP RESISTING.

>> STOP RESISTING.
>> STOP RESISTING.

>> STOP RESISTING.

>> STOP RESISTING.
>> OKAY, STOP.

>> OKAY, STOP.

>> OKAY, STOP.
>> He claimed that they they beat him

>> He claimed that they they beat him

>> He claimed that they they beat him
unnecessarily and nobody believed him

unnecessarily and nobody believed him

unnecessarily and nobody believed him
until that video from the nearby

until that video from the nearby

until that video from the nearby
building came out.

building came out.

building came out.
>> Yeah, they're yelling, "Stop resisting

>> Yeah, they're yelling, "Stop resisting

>> Yeah, they're yelling, "Stop resisting
when he wasn't resisting at all." And it

when he wasn't resisting at all." And it

when he wasn't resisting at all." And it
can be powerful to claim something's

can be powerful to claim something's

can be powerful to claim something's
happening that the camera cannot see. It

happening that the camera cannot see. It

happening that the camera cannot see. It
it'd be like me telling you that under

it'd be like me telling you that under

it'd be like me telling you that under
this desk I've got the thighs of a

this desk I've got the thighs of a

this desk I've got the thighs of a
bodybuilder and an ass that won't quit

bodybuilder and an ass that won't quit

bodybuilder and an ass that won't quit
when the truth is I've got two perfectly

when the truth is I've got two perfectly

when the truth is I've got two perfectly
average thighs and an ass that quits all

average thighs and an ass that quits all

average thighs and an ass that quits all
the time. And that's not a one-off. A

the time. And that's not a one-off. A

the time. And that's not a one-off. A
similar situation happened in the

similar situation happened in the

similar situation happened in the
beating death of Tyrie Nichols where the

beating death of Tyrie Nichols where the

beating death of Tyrie Nichols where the
audio on officers body cams picked them

audio on officers body cams picked them

audio on officers body cams picked them
up saying things like lay flat only for

up saying things like lay flat only for

up saying things like lay flat only for
another video to emerge showing him

another video to emerge showing him

another video to emerge showing him
lying limp as an officer handcuffed him.

lying limp as an officer handcuffed him.

lying limp as an officer handcuffed him.
The point is, there are immediately

The point is, there are immediately

The point is, there are immediately
limits to what a camera can show you.

limits to what a camera can show you.

limits to what a camera can show you.
But those limitations get even more

But those limitations get even more

But those limitations get even more
acute when cops mute, obscure, or turn

acute when cops mute, obscure, or turn

acute when cops mute, obscure, or turn
off their cameras, which happens and

off their cameras, which happens and

off their cameras, which happens and
sometimes on purpose. And that is

sometimes on purpose. And that is

sometimes on purpose. And that is
something driven home by this incident

something driven home by this incident

something driven home by this incident
where a police captain who was arrested

where a police captain who was arrested

where a police captain who was arrested
for drunk driving kept urgently trying

for drunk driving kept urgently trying

for drunk driving kept urgently trying
to convey something to the officer who

to convey something to the officer who

to convey something to the officer who
pulled him over. You

pulled him over. You

pulled him over. You
>> been drinking the night?

>> been drinking the night?

>> been drinking the night?
>> I just got a ride.

>> I just got a ride.

>> I just got a ride.
>> You've been drinking tonight, sir?

>> You've been drinking tonight, sir?

>> You've been drinking tonight, sir?
>> I'm a captain on the police department.

>> I'm a captain on the police department.

>> I'm a captain on the police department.
What police department?

What police department?

What police department?
>> Oklahoma say

>> Oklahoma say

>> Oklahoma say
the camera.

the camera.

the camera.
>> How much we had to drink last night,

>> How much we had to drink last night,

>> How much we had to drink last night,
sir?

>> Please.

>> Please.
>> Huh?

>> Huh?

>> Huh?
>> Turn the camera off.

>> Turn the camera off.

>> Turn the camera off.
>> I'm not turning my camera off.

>> I'm not turning my camera off.

>> I'm not turning my camera off.
>> Okay.

>> Okay.

>> Okay.
>> Yeah, that is a police captain

>> Yeah, that is a police captain

>> Yeah, that is a police captain
whispering, "Turn your camera off,"

whispering, "Turn your camera off,"

whispering, "Turn your camera off,"
while simultaneously staring into it

while simultaneously staring into it

while simultaneously staring into it
like a raccoon caught on a Ring

like a raccoon caught on a Ring

like a raccoon caught on a Ring
doorbell. And it is genuinely hard to

doorbell. And it is genuinely hard to

doorbell. And it is genuinely hard to
imagine a more embarrassing way to get

imagine a more embarrassing way to get

imagine a more embarrassing way to get
arrested than that, which is saying

arrested than that, which is saying

arrested than that, which is saying
something because you just saw someone

something because you just saw someone

something because you just saw someone
get handcuffed while dressed like a

get handcuffed while dressed like a

get handcuffed while dressed like a
giant mouse. And look, it makes sense

giant mouse. And look, it makes sense

giant mouse. And look, it makes sense
that these things have an off button.

that these things have an off button.

that these things have an off button.
Cops need to be able to take a in

Cops need to be able to take a in

Cops need to be able to take a in
peace like the rest of us. And some of

peace like the rest of us. And some of

peace like the rest of us. And some of
the people they talk to might need their

the people they talk to might need their

the people they talk to might need their
privacy protected, too. That is why

privacy protected, too. That is why

privacy protected, too. That is why
Connecticut, for instance, has a law

Connecticut, for instance, has a law

Connecticut, for instance, has a law
that says they have to turn cameras off

that says they have to turn cameras off

that says they have to turn cameras off
in cases like during an encounter with

in cases like during an encounter with

in cases like during an encounter with
an undercover officer or informant, when

an undercover officer or informant, when

an undercover officer or informant, when
an officer is on break or engaged in

an officer is on break or engaged in

an officer is on break or engaged in
personal business, and when a person is

personal business, and when a person is

personal business, and when a person is
undergoing a medical or psychological

undergoing a medical or psychological

undergoing a medical or psychological
evaluation or treatment. But obviously,

evaluation or treatment. But obviously,

evaluation or treatment. But obviously,
some critical interactions when people

some critical interactions when people

some critical interactions when people
have been hurt or killed by police still

have been hurt or killed by police still

have been hurt or killed by police still
go unrecorded. And while you might

go unrecorded. And while you might

go unrecorded. And while you might
think, well, maybe the incident

think, well, maybe the incident

think, well, maybe the incident
escalated suddenly and officers didn't

escalated suddenly and officers didn't

escalated suddenly and officers didn't
have time to turn their cameras on, you

have time to turn their cameras on, you

have time to turn their cameras on, you
should know most body cams are basically

should know most body cams are basically

should know most body cams are basically
always in a standby mode in which the

always in a standby mode in which the

always in a standby mode in which the
camera is powered on and rolling, but

camera is powered on and rolling, but

camera is powered on and rolling, but
not yet permanently saving the footage.

not yet permanently saving the footage.

not yet permanently saving the footage.
It's only when an officer presses record

It's only when an officer presses record

It's only when an officer presses record
that the camera will begin saving

that the camera will begin saving

that the camera will begin saving
footage to permanent memory. That saved

footage to permanent memory. That saved

footage to permanent memory. That saved
clip then includes footage recorded for

clip then includes footage recorded for

clip then includes footage recorded for
a predetermined amount of buffer time

a predetermined amount of buffer time

a predetermined amount of buffer time
before the record button was pressed,

before the record button was pressed,

before the record button was pressed,
which can range from 15 seconds to 2

which can range from 15 seconds to 2

which can range from 15 seconds to 2
minutes. So there's actually a

minutes. So there's actually a

minutes. So there's actually a
meaningful amount of context that can

meaningful amount of context that can

meaningful amount of context that can
get captured prior to an officer hitting

get captured prior to an officer hitting

get captured prior to an officer hitting
record if that's something they're

record if that's something they're

record if that's something they're
inclined to do. And yet often times they

inclined to do. And yet often times they

inclined to do. And yet often times they
just happen to be turned off during

just happen to be turned off during

just happen to be turned off during
incidents of police violence. For

incidents of police violence. For

incidents of police violence. For
example, even though the LAPD requires

example, even though the LAPD requires

example, even though the LAPD requires
officers to turn on their cameras before

officers to turn on their cameras before

officers to turn on their cameras before
any interaction with the public, nearly

any interaction with the public, nearly

any interaction with the public, nearly
a fourth of its officers involved in

a fourth of its officers involved in

a fourth of its officers involved in
incidents where serious force was used

incidents where serious force was used

incidents where serious force was used
failed to activate them in a timely

failed to activate them in a timely

failed to activate them in a timely
manner. And some unions and police

manner. And some unions and police

manner. And some unions and police
officials are quick to excuse that sort

officials are quick to excuse that sort

officials are quick to excuse that sort
of thing. For instance, not long after

of thing. For instance, not long after

of thing. For instance, not long after
Houston rolled out body cams, two police

Houston rolled out body cams, two police

Houston rolled out body cams, two police
officers shot a man near a gas station,

officers shot a man near a gas station,

officers shot a man near a gas station,
but neither turned on their cameras

but neither turned on their cameras

but neither turned on their cameras
until the incident was over. And this is

until the incident was over. And this is

until the incident was over. And this is
how the police union's then president

how the police union's then president

how the police union's then president
defended that.

defended that.

defended that.
>> This was the first real high-profile

>> This was the first real high-profile

>> This was the first real high-profile
test of this department's body camera

test of this department's body camera

test of this department's body camera
policy. Pass or fail.

policy. Pass or fail.

policy. Pass or fail.
>> If the officer's primary responsibility

>> If the officer's primary responsibility

>> If the officer's primary responsibility
was his safety, he passed. If his

was his safety, he passed. If his

was his safety, he passed. If his
primary responsibility was videotaping

primary responsibility was videotaping

primary responsibility was videotaping
the entire scene, he failed. If he was

the entire scene, he failed. If he was

the entire scene, he failed. If he was
your cameraman and only had to worry

your cameraman and only had to worry

your cameraman and only had to worry
about videotaping that, I would I would

about videotaping that, I would I would

about videotaping that, I would I would
blame that cameraman for not getting it.

blame that cameraman for not getting it.

blame that cameraman for not getting it.
But that's not his primary

But that's not his primary

But that's not his primary
responsibility. His primary

responsibility. His primary

responsibility. His primary
responsibility is to make sure he's safe

responsibility is to make sure he's safe

responsibility is to make sure he's safe
and the public's safe. Okay. But he did

and the public's safe. Okay. But he did

and the public's safe. Okay. But he did
shoot someone. My cameraman gets footage

shoot someone. My cameraman gets footage

shoot someone. My cameraman gets footage
and has never shot anyone. Well, doing

and has never shot anyone. Well, doing

and has never shot anyone. Well, doing
this job at least. I don't know what

this job at least. I don't know what

this job at least. I don't know what
Dante does during his off hours. That's

Dante does during his off hours. That's

Dante does during his off hours. That's
his time. Also, activating a body camera

his time. Also, activating a body camera

his time. Also, activating a body camera
isn't exactly an overwhelming task. We

isn't exactly an overwhelming task. We

isn't exactly an overwhelming task. We
looked into it and the process is step

looked into it and the process is step

looked into it and the process is step
one, press the record button. Step two,

one, press the record button. Step two,

one, press the record button. Step two,
end of steps.

end of steps.

end of steps.
But even if an officer does turn on

But even if an officer does turn on

But even if an officer does turn on
their camera and even if it shows what

their camera and even if it shows what

their camera and even if it shows what
happened clearly, there's still the

happened clearly, there's still the

happened clearly, there's still the
issue of what happens to all the

issue of what happens to all the

issue of what happens to all the
footage. Because to be clear, there is

footage. Because to be clear, there is

footage. Because to be clear, there is
an enormous amount of it. To give you a

an enormous amount of it. To give you a

an enormous amount of it. To give you a
sense of scale, Axon, the nation's

sense of scale, Axon, the nation's

sense of scale, Axon, the nation's
largest police camera provider, offers

largest police camera provider, offers

largest police camera provider, offers
cloud storage for many of its clients

cloud storage for many of its clients

cloud storage for many of its clients
footage. And its database is more than

footage. And its database is more than

footage. And its database is more than
100 pabytes of footage, equivalent to

100 pabytes of footage, equivalent to

100 pabytes of footage, equivalent to
more than 5,000 years of highdefinition

more than 5,000 years of highdefinition

more than 5,000 years of highdefinition
video, which is pretty wild, isn't it?

video, which is pretty wild, isn't it?

video, which is pretty wild, isn't it?
Both that there is so much of it and

Both that there is so much of it and

Both that there is so much of it and
also that pedibyte is a real unit of

also that pedibyte is a real unit of

also that pedibyte is a real unit of
digital storage and not what it sounds

digital storage and not what it sounds

digital storage and not what it sounds
like, a snack food brand exclusively for

like, a snack food brand exclusively for

like, a snack food brand exclusively for
pedophiles. Pedabyte, have a snack, you

pedophiles. Pedabyte, have a snack, you

pedophiles. Pedabyte, have a snack, you
monster.

monster.

monster.
And the thing is, most of that footage

And the thing is, most of that footage

And the thing is, most of that footage
will never be watched by anyone, which

will never be watched by anyone, which

will never be watched by anyone, which
is understandable. You know, it's

is understandable. You know, it's

is understandable. You know, it's
impossible for agencies to look at every

impossible for agencies to look at every

impossible for agencies to look at every
minute of footage from all these

minute of footage from all these

minute of footage from all these
cameras. But far too often, even footage

cameras. But far too often, even footage

cameras. But far too often, even footage
that documents misconduct isn't

that documents misconduct isn't

that documents misconduct isn't
meaningfully reviews, meaning

meaningfully reviews, meaning

meaningfully reviews, meaning
departments miss opportunities to spot

departments miss opportunities to spot

departments miss opportunities to spot
both problem officers and broader

both problem officers and broader

both problem officers and broader
patterns of abuse. After the mur murder

patterns of abuse. After the mur murder

patterns of abuse. After the mur murder
of George Floyd, it it emerged that body

of George Floyd, it it emerged that body

of George Floyd, it it emerged that body
cams had captured Derek Schovin kneeling

cams had captured Derek Schovin kneeling

cams had captured Derek Schovin kneeling
on the necks of others, including a

on the necks of others, including a

on the necks of others, including a
handcuffed black woman and a 14-year-old

handcuffed black woman and a 14-year-old

handcuffed black woman and a 14-year-old
black boy. In both those cases,

black boy. In both those cases,

black boy. In both those cases,
supervisors had access to the recordings

supervisors had access to the recordings

supervisors had access to the recordings
yet cleared Shogun's conduct. And when a

yet cleared Shogun's conduct. And when a

yet cleared Shogun's conduct. And when a
state civil rights investigation later

state civil rights investigation later

state civil rights investigation later
looked at 700 hours of body cam footage,

looked at 700 hours of body cam footage,

looked at 700 hours of body cam footage,
it found Minneapolis cops repeatedly

it found Minneapolis cops repeatedly

it found Minneapolis cops repeatedly
used neck restraints and concluded that

used neck restraints and concluded that

used neck restraints and concluded that
if police or the city had conducted a

if police or the city had conducted a

if police or the city had conducted a
substantive audit of the footage, they

substantive audit of the footage, they

substantive audit of the footage, they
would have seen how often officers there

would have seen how often officers there

would have seen how often officers there
were using neck restraints and could

were using neck restraints and could

were using neck restraints and could
have taken steps to stop it. And clearly

have taken steps to stop it. And clearly

have taken steps to stop it. And clearly
someone should have done that because

someone should have done that because

someone should have done that because
there's no point in the police just

there's no point in the police just

there's no point in the police just
stacking up thousands of hours of

stacking up thousands of hours of

stacking up thousands of hours of
footage that nobody's ever going to see.

footage that nobody's ever going to see.

footage that nobody's ever going to see.
Especially given that we all know that

Especially given that we all know that

Especially given that we all know that
is Paramount Plus's job. Hey, WHAT ARE

is Paramount Plus's job. Hey, WHAT ARE

is Paramount Plus's job. Hey, WHAT ARE
THEY GOING TO DO? Take us over and

THEY GOING TO DO? Take us over and

THEY GOING TO DO? Take us over and
immediately cancel us? I'm genuinely

immediately cancel us? I'm genuinely

immediately cancel us? I'm genuinely
asking.

asking.

asking.
So internally,

So internally,

So internally,
departments aren't reviewing their own

departments aren't reviewing their own

departments aren't reviewing their own
footage nearly enough. And when it comes

footage nearly enough. And when it comes

footage nearly enough. And when it comes
to public transparency, the results have

to public transparency, the results have

to public transparency, the results have
been all over the map. And you might be

been all over the map. And you might be

been all over the map. And you might be
thinking, well, why not just put all the

thinking, well, why not just put all the

thinking, well, why not just put all the
footage out there for everyone to see.

footage out there for everyone to see.

footage out there for everyone to see.
Well, the thing is there are legitimate

Well, the thing is there are legitimate

Well, the thing is there are legitimate
reasons not to do that. First, there are

reasons not to do that. First, there are

reasons not to do that. First, there are
issues with how all that video could be

issues with how all that video could be

issues with how all that video could be
fed into facial recognition systems,

fed into facial recognition systems,

fed into facial recognition systems,
which we have talked about before. But

which we have talked about before. But

which we have talked about before. But
also remember, body cams can show

also remember, body cams can show

also remember, body cams can show
vulnerable or embarrassing moments,

vulnerable or embarrassing moments,

vulnerable or embarrassing moments,
which can then be exploited for

which can then be exploited for

which can then be exploited for
entertainment. And I know we've already

entertainment. And I know we've already

entertainment. And I know we've already
showed you a couple of examples of that

showed you a couple of examples of that

showed you a couple of examples of that
tonight, but we thought a lot about why

tonight, but we thought a lot about why

tonight, but we thought a lot about why
we were doing that and how. In the mouse

we were doing that and how. In the mouse

we were doing that and how. In the mouse
one, his face is covered. And in the

one, his face is covered. And in the

one, his face is covered. And in the
police captain one, you might have

police captain one, you might have

police captain one, you might have
noticed he was a police captain.

noticed he was a police captain.

noticed he was a police captain.
But there are countless channels on

But there are countless channels on

But there are countless channels on
YouTube that have made a business out of

YouTube that have made a business out of

YouTube that have made a business out of
obtaining body cam footage of people in

obtaining body cam footage of people in

obtaining body cam footage of people in
distress and which do feel like they're

distress and which do feel like they're

distress and which do feel like they're
leaning into exploitation. One channel

leaning into exploitation. One channel

leaning into exploitation. One channel
has videos called Entitled Lady Finally

has videos called Entitled Lady Finally

has videos called Entitled Lady Finally
Gets What She Deserves and Buckle Up

Gets What She Deserves and Buckle Up

Gets What She Deserves and Buckle Up
Kids Grandma's Drunk, which sounds like

Kids Grandma's Drunk, which sounds like

Kids Grandma's Drunk, which sounds like
a kids book written by Kathy Lee Gford.

a kids book written by Kathy Lee Gford.

a kids book written by Kathy Lee Gford.
Another channel has videos mainly of

Another channel has videos mainly of

Another channel has videos mainly of
young women with titles like 19-year-old

young women with titles like 19-year-old

young women with titles like 19-year-old
girl arrested for DUI at over double the

girl arrested for DUI at over double the

girl arrested for DUI at over double the
limit after getting drunk at the beach,

limit after getting drunk at the beach,

limit after getting drunk at the beach,
which is pretty grim. And by the way,

which is pretty grim. And by the way,

which is pretty grim. And by the way,
we've blurred the faces there, but they

we've blurred the faces there, but they

we've blurred the faces there, but they
don't do that. And it almost makes me

don't do that. And it almost makes me

don't do that. And it almost makes me
think that YouTube as a whole might not

think that YouTube as a whole might not

think that YouTube as a whole might not
have been worth it. Offsetting its very

have been worth it. Offsetting its very

have been worth it. Offsetting its very
real accomplishments, like this video of

real accomplishments, like this video of

real accomplishments, like this video of
a Chihuahua riding a turtle, or this one

a Chihuahua riding a turtle, or this one

a Chihuahua riding a turtle, or this one
of Kelsey Grammar falling off a stage,

of Kelsey Grammar falling off a stage,

of Kelsey Grammar falling off a stage,
or this one of a sheep screaming like a

or this one of a sheep screaming like a

or this one of a sheep screaming like a
human.

YEAH, THAT MIGHT be the best thing ever

YEAH, THAT MIGHT be the best thing ever
posted to YouTube. And if you're

posted to YouTube. And if you're

posted to YouTube. And if you're
thinking, John, what about the several

thinking, John, what about the several

thinking, John, what about the several
hundred episodes of your show? I said

hundred episodes of your show? I said

hundred episodes of your show? I said
what I said.

what I said.

what I said.
Now, those channels often get videos

Now, those channels often get videos

Now, those channels often get videos
through public records requests. But

through public records requests. But

through public records requests. But
police departments can have a huge

police departments can have a huge

police departments can have a huge
amount of leeway when it comes to what

amount of leeway when it comes to what

amount of leeway when it comes to what
they release, as in most places,

they release, as in most places,

they release, as in most places,
policymakers have defaulted to leaving

policymakers have defaulted to leaving

policymakers have defaulted to leaving
them with the power to decide what's

them with the power to decide what's

them with the power to decide what's
recorded, who can see it, and when. Just

recorded, who can see it, and when. Just

recorded, who can see it, and when. Just
watch as a reporter asked Charlotte's

watch as a reporter asked Charlotte's

watch as a reporter asked Charlotte's
then police chief how to reconcile his

then police chief how to reconcile his

then police chief how to reconcile his
commitment to transparency with his

commitment to transparency with his

commitment to transparency with his
department's refusal to release video of

department's refusal to release video of

department's refusal to release video of
a police shooting.

a police shooting.

a police shooting.
>> You seem to get mixed messages here. On

>> You seem to get mixed messages here. On

>> You seem to get mixed messages here. On
the one hand, you're saying we should

the one hand, you're saying we should

the one hand, you're saying we should
have full transparency. On the other

have full transparency. On the other

have full transparency. On the other
hand, you're saying you're not going to

hand, you're saying you're not going to

hand, you're saying you're not going to
release the video. How can you square

release the video. How can you square

release the video. How can you square
those two things? The obviously the idea

those two things? The obviously the idea

those two things? The obviously the idea
of full transparency is release the

of full transparency is release the

of full transparency is release the
video so we can all see it.

video so we can all see it.

video so we can all see it.
>> Sure. I appreciate your passion, but I

>> Sure. I appreciate your passion, but I

>> Sure. I appreciate your passion, but I
never said full transparency. I said

never said full transparency. I said

never said full transparency. I said
transparency. And transparency is in the

transparency. And transparency is in the

transparency. And transparency is in the
eye of the beholder.

eye of the beholder.

eye of the beholder.
>> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

>> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

>> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait. Transparency is in the eye

wait, wait. Transparency is in the eye

wait, wait. Transparency is in the eye
of the beholder. That is just fully

of the beholder. That is just fully

of the beholder. That is just fully
nonsense. That sounds like the last

nonsense. That sounds like the last

nonsense. That sounds like the last
thoughts of a pigeon that's about to

thoughts of a pigeon that's about to

thoughts of a pigeon that's about to
smash into a closed window.

smash into a closed window.

smash into a closed window.
And yet that has been the de facto

And yet that has been the de facto

And yet that has been the de facto
stance of many departments. For example,

stance of many departments. For example,

stance of many departments. For example,
even though in 2020 the NYPD promised to

even though in 2020 the NYPD promised to

even though in 2020 the NYPD promised to
release footage of critical incidents

release footage of critical incidents

release footage of critical incidents
within 30 days, when ProPublica looked

within 30 days, when ProPublica looked

within 30 days, when ProPublica looked
into it 3 years later, they found that

into it 3 years later, they found that

into it 3 years later, they found that
out of 380 such incidents, the NYPD had

out of 380 such incidents, the NYPD had

out of 380 such incidents, the NYPD had
released footage within a month, just

released footage within a month, just

released footage within a month, just
twice. And in South Carolina, when the

twice. And in South Carolina, when the

twice. And in South Carolina, when the
police there had killed at least 19

police there had killed at least 19

police there had killed at least 19
people in 2023, they'd only released

people in 2023, they'd only released

people in 2023, they'd only released
footage in three of those cases, with

footage in three of those cases, with

footage in three of those cases, with
one department refusing a request by

one department refusing a request by

one department refusing a request by
saying, "We never release that footage."

saying, "We never release that footage."

saying, "We never release that footage."
And a popular argument police use is

And a popular argument police use is

And a popular argument police use is
that making video public would undermine

that making video public would undermine

that making video public would undermine
the integrity of an investigation. It's

the integrity of an investigation. It's

the integrity of an investigation. It's
an excuse which works in almost every

an excuse which works in almost every

an excuse which works in almost every
state in the country, even when there's

state in the country, even when there's

state in the country, even when there's
rules for public access. They'll also

rules for public access. They'll also

rules for public access. They'll also
argue that reviewing the footage and

argue that reviewing the footage and

argue that reviewing the footage and
redacting sensitive information like

redacting sensitive information like

redacting sensitive information like
juveniles faces or witnesses identities

juveniles faces or witnesses identities

juveniles faces or witnesses identities
carries a prohibitive cost. In Las

carries a prohibitive cost. In Las

carries a prohibitive cost. In Las
Vegas, uh, police charged about $70 an

Vegas, uh, police charged about $70 an

Vegas, uh, police charged about $70 an
hour to produce footage, while in

hour to produce footage, while in

hour to produce footage, while in
Memphis, journalists have been asked to

Memphis, journalists have been asked to

Memphis, journalists have been asked to
pay as much as $3,100 in hourly labor

pay as much as $3,100 in hourly labor

pay as much as $3,100 in hourly labor
costs for video from a single case. And

costs for video from a single case. And

costs for video from a single case. And
as one expert said, for a local news

as one expert said, for a local news

as one expert said, for a local news
organization, a bill for $2,000 might as

organization, a bill for $2,000 might as

organization, a bill for $2,000 might as
well be a denial, which does make sense,

well be a denial, which does make sense,

well be a denial, which does make sense,
doesn't it? Because local news are known

doesn't it? Because local news are known

doesn't it? Because local news are known
for a lot of things. Dedicated

for a lot of things. Dedicated

for a lot of things. Dedicated
employees, probing investigations,

employees, probing investigations,

employees, probing investigations,
inadvertently broadcasting massive dicks

inadvertently broadcasting massive dicks

inadvertently broadcasting massive dicks
on their weather maps. But they're not

on their weather maps. But they're not

on their weather maps. But they're not
famous for rolling in money. And even if

famous for rolling in money. And even if

famous for rolling in money. And even if
footage gets released, it can be so

footage gets released, it can be so

footage gets released, it can be so
heavily redacted, it's then essentially

heavily redacted, it's then essentially

heavily redacted, it's then essentially
useless. For example, until last year,

useless. For example, until last year,

useless. For example, until last year,
Tempe, Arizona's police department had a

Tempe, Arizona's police department had a

Tempe, Arizona's police department had a
policy which mandated that all body cam

policy which mandated that all body cam

policy which mandated that all body cam
footage they released would include a

footage they released would include a

footage they released would include a
general medium blur. And just so you

general medium blur. And just so you

general medium blur. And just so you
know, this is what their blurred footage

know, this is what their blurred footage

know, this is what their blurred footage
looks like. And it is notable that when

looks like. And it is notable that when

looks like. And it is notable that when
body cam footage shows officers in a bad

body cam footage shows officers in a bad

body cam footage shows officers in a bad
light, they will often cite the cost and

light, they will often cite the cost and

light, they will often cite the cost and
technical hurdles of redaction to not

technical hurdles of redaction to not

technical hurdles of redaction to not
release it. But when it shows them in a

release it. But when it shows them in a

release it. But when it shows them in a
good light, those problems seem to

good light, those problems seem to

good light, those problems seem to
disappear. Just watch as a reporter in

disappear. Just watch as a reporter in

disappear. Just watch as a reporter in
Texas confronts a police chief who was

Texas confronts a police chief who was

Texas confronts a police chief who was
claiming that because they didn't have

claiming that because they didn't have

claiming that because they didn't have
the ability to redact video themselves,

the ability to redact video themselves,

the ability to redact video themselves,
they couldn't release a video of a

they couldn't release a video of a

they couldn't release a video of a
police search during a traffic stop. In

police search during a traffic stop. In

police search during a traffic stop. In
the year 2024, why doesn't this

the year 2024, why doesn't this

the year 2024, why doesn't this
department have software to redact

department have software to redact

department have software to redact
videos?

videos?

videos?
>> It's really expensive for us to get.

>> It's really expensive for us to get.

>> It's really expensive for us to get.
>> Angleton Chief Lupe Valdez showed us a

>> Angleton Chief Lupe Valdez showed us a

>> Angleton Chief Lupe Valdez showed us a
quote from their body cam vendor. More

quote from their body cam vendor. More

quote from their body cam vendor. More
than $14,000.

than $14,000.

than $14,000.
>> Budgetwise, it's it's not in our budget

>> Budgetwise, it's it's not in our budget

>> Budgetwise, it's it's not in our budget
to do that.

to do that.

to do that.
>> But there's this body cam video Angleton

>> But there's this body cam video Angleton

>> But there's this body cam video Angleton
Police released a few months ago of a

Police released a few months ago of a

Police released a few months ago of a
crash where officers heroically pulled

crash where officers heroically pulled

crash where officers heroically pulled
the driver out of the burning car. And

the driver out of the burning car. And

the driver out of the burning car. And
look, portions are blurred.

look, portions are blurred.

look, portions are blurred.
>> How were you able to redact the video in

>> How were you able to redact the video in

>> How were you able to redact the video in
that case? We paid somebody to do that.

that case? We paid somebody to do that.

that case? We paid somebody to do that.
>> So, let me get this straight. When your

>> So, let me get this straight. When your

>> So, let me get this straight. When your
officers are heroes, do you find a way

officers are heroes, do you find a way

officers are heroes, do you find a way
to release it? But when your officers

to release it? But when your officers

to release it? But when your officers
are scrutinized, do you find a way to

are scrutinized, do you find a way to

are scrutinized, do you find a way to
withhold it?

withhold it?

withhold it?
>> No, sir. That's what happened here,

>> No, sir. That's what happened here,

>> No, sir. That's what happened here,
Chief. No, sir.

Chief. No, sir.

Chief. No, sir.
>> Uh, yes, sir. That is exactly what

>> Uh, yes, sir. That is exactly what

>> Uh, yes, sir. That is exactly what
happened. That interview could not have

happened. That interview could not have

happened. That interview could not have
been any more embarrassing for that man,

been any more embarrassing for that man,

been any more embarrassing for that man,
which is why I'm sure he'd prefer if we

which is why I'm sure he'd prefer if we

which is why I'm sure he'd prefer if we
blurted him right now. But I'm not going

blurted him right now. But I'm not going

blurted him right now. But I'm not going
to do that because much like him, I only

to do that because much like him, I only

to do that because much like him, I only
pay people to redact video when I

pay people to redact video when I

pay people to redact video when I
feel like it. But maybe no case

feel like it. But maybe no case

feel like it. But maybe no case
illustrates the extent to which the mere

illustrates the extent to which the mere

illustrates the extent to which the mere
presence of body cams isn't sufficient

presence of body cams isn't sufficient

presence of body cams isn't sufficient
to prevent police violence or indeed

to prevent police violence or indeed

to prevent police violence or indeed
bring accountability more than that of

bring accountability more than that of

bring accountability more than that of
Ronald Green, a Louisiana man who died

Ronald Green, a Louisiana man who died

Ronald Green, a Louisiana man who died
following an encounter with police in

following an encounter with police in

following an encounter with police in
2019. Officers initially told his family

2019. Officers initially told his family

2019. Officers initially told his family
that he died on impact after crashing

that he died on impact after crashing

that he died on impact after crashing
his car at the end of a chase with

his car at the end of a chase with

his car at the end of a chase with
police. And even though there was body

police. And even though there was body

police. And even though there was body
cam footage from officers on the scene,

cam footage from officers on the scene,

cam footage from officers on the scene,
state officials, including the then

state officials, including the then

state officials, including the then
governor, repeatedly refused to publicly

governor, repeatedly refused to publicly

governor, repeatedly refused to publicly
release it for more than two years. In

release it for more than two years. In

release it for more than two years. In
the end, someone wound up leaking the

the end, someone wound up leaking the

the end, someone wound up leaking the
video to the AP, which is how people

video to the AP, which is how people

video to the AP, which is how people
came to see a state trooper wrestling

came to see a state trooper wrestling

came to see a state trooper wrestling
Green to the ground, putting him in a

Green to the ground, putting him in a

Green to the ground, putting him in a
chokeold, and punching him in the face.

chokeold, and punching him in the face.

chokeold, and punching him in the face.
And I'm not going to show you the video

And I'm not going to show you the video

And I'm not going to show you the video
of any of that, but I do think it's

of any of that, but I do think it's

of any of that, but I do think it's
worth seeing one moment from one of the

worth seeing one moment from one of the

worth seeing one moment from one of the
officers body cams as he drove away from

officers body cams as he drove away from

officers body cams as he drove away from
the scene.

the scene.

the scene.
>> I beat the ever living out of him,

>> I beat the ever living out of him,

>> I beat the ever living out of him,
choked him, and everything else trying

choked him, and everything else trying

choked him, and everything else trying
to get him under control. And then all

to get him under control. And then all

to get him under control. And then all
of a sudden, he just went limp.

of a sudden, he just went limp.

of a sudden, he just went limp.
>> Damn.

>> Damn.

>> Damn.
>> Yeah. I thought he was dead. We set him

>> Yeah. I thought he was dead. We set him

>> Yeah. I thought he was dead. We set him
up real quick.

up real quick.

up real quick.
He's on the ambulance and route to

He's on the ambulance and route to

He's on the ambulance and route to
Glenwood and and I'm hauling ass trying

Glenwood and and I'm hauling ass trying

Glenwood and and I'm hauling ass trying
to catch up to him. You think he u got

to catch up to him. You think he u got

to catch up to him. You think he u got
on body cam?

>> Yeah. As soon as he was reminded his

>> Yeah. As soon as he was reminded his
body camera was on, he turned it off,

body camera was on, he turned it off,

body camera was on, he turned it off,
which is pretty damning. It is honestly

which is pretty damning. It is honestly

which is pretty damning. It is honestly
the panicked move of someone whose

the panicked move of someone whose

the panicked move of someone whose
internal monologue was essentially just

internal monologue was essentially just

internal monologue was essentially just
this.

Yeah, exactly. Now, now none of the six

Yeah, exactly. Now, now none of the six
officers on the scene wound up facing

officers on the scene wound up facing

officers on the scene wound up facing
much in the way of charges. The guy in

much in the way of charges. The guy in

much in the way of charges. The guy in
that video actually wound up dying the

that video actually wound up dying the

that video actually wound up dying the
following year in a car crash. As for

following year in a car crash. As for

following year in a car crash. As for
the other five, only two were convicted

the other five, only two were convicted

the other five, only two were convicted
on any charges, and those were

on any charges, and those were

on any charges, and those were
misdemeanor pled down, but charges

misdemeanor pled down, but charges

misdemeanor pled down, but charges
against the other three were dismissed.

against the other three were dismissed.

against the other three were dismissed.
And the DOJ dropped its criminal

And the DOJ dropped its criminal

And the DOJ dropped its criminal
investigation, saying it had found

investigation, saying it had found

investigation, saying it had found
insufficient evidence to support federal

insufficient evidence to support federal

insufficient evidence to support federal
charges. But that might be because even

charges. But that might be because even

charges. But that might be because even
though there was body cam footage, the

though there was body cam footage, the

though there was body cam footage, the
microphones weren't always on and not

microphones weren't always on and not

microphones weren't always on and not
all of the troopers at the scene had

all of the troopers at the scene had

all of the troopers at the scene had
their cameras on during the arrest. And

their cameras on during the arrest. And

their cameras on during the arrest. And
that does not seem like a coincidence

that does not seem like a coincidence

that does not seem like a coincidence
because the AP found state troopers

because the AP found state troopers

because the AP found state troopers
there had made a habit of turning off or

there had made a habit of turning off or

there had made a habit of turning off or
muting body cams during pursuits. That

muting body cams during pursuits. That

muting body cams during pursuits. That
when footage is recorded, the agency

when footage is recorded, the agency

when footage is recorded, the agency
routinely refused to release it. And

routinely refused to release it. And

routinely refused to release it. And
that one supervisor in the department

that one supervisor in the department

that one supervisor in the department
even told internal investigators that it

even told internal investigators that it

even told internal investigators that it
was his common practice to rubber stamp

was his common practice to rubber stamp

was his common practice to rubber stamp
officers use of force reports without

officers use of force reports without

officers use of force reports without
reviewing body cam video. And if you're

reviewing body cam video. And if you're

reviewing body cam video. And if you're
not even going to watch the footage, why

not even going to watch the footage, why

not even going to watch the footage, why
give your officers body cams at all? you

give your officers body cams at all? you

give your officers body cams at all? you
might as well just let them hang a

might as well just let them hang a

might as well just let them hang a
bologn sandwich off their shirt instead.

bologn sandwich off their shirt instead.

bologn sandwich off their shirt instead.
It'll lead to exactly as much

It'll lead to exactly as much

It'll lead to exactly as much
accountability and they'll have a little

accountability and they'll have a little

accountability and they'll have a little
meat snack in case they get hungry. And

meat snack in case they get hungry. And

meat snack in case they get hungry. And
the truth is, if someone hadn't leaked

the truth is, if someone hadn't leaked

the truth is, if someone hadn't leaked
that footage, we'd likely never have

that footage, we'd likely never have

that footage, we'd likely never have
known about any of this. But hoping for

known about any of this. But hoping for

known about any of this. But hoping for
leaks just cannot be the system here.

leaks just cannot be the system here.

leaks just cannot be the system here.
So, what do we do? Well, I would argue

So, what do we do? Well, I would argue

So, what do we do? Well, I would argue
we have to take back the power from

we have to take back the power from

we have to take back the power from
police departments to decide when and

police departments to decide when and

police departments to decide when and
how to use body cams. Some agencies are

how to use body cams. Some agencies are

how to use body cams. Some agencies are
transitioning to auto triggering

transitioning to auto triggering

transitioning to auto triggering
technologies like sensors that switch

technologies like sensors that switch

technologies like sensors that switch
them on when officers do things like

them on when officers do things like

them on when officers do things like
draw their gun or exit their police car.

draw their gun or exit their police car.

draw their gun or exit their police car.
Experts told us those aren't necessarily

Experts told us those aren't necessarily

Experts told us those aren't necessarily
bad ideas, but they're likely to fall

bad ideas, but they're likely to fall

bad ideas, but they're likely to fall
flat if they aren't combined with clear

flat if they aren't combined with clear

flat if they aren't combined with clear
enforceable rules stating the footage

enforceable rules stating the footage

enforceable rules stating the footage
must be retained, routinely reviewed,

must be retained, routinely reviewed,

must be retained, routinely reviewed,
and released in a timely manner,

and released in a timely manner,

and released in a timely manner,
especially in critical incidents. One

especially in critical incidents. One

especially in critical incidents. One
way of doing that is to have those rules

way of doing that is to have those rules

way of doing that is to have those rules
enforced by an independent body free of

enforced by an independent body free of

enforced by an independent body free of
police influence. And all of this is

police influence. And all of this is

police influence. And all of this is
really worth bearing in mind during the

really worth bearing in mind during the

really worth bearing in mind during the
current debate over requiring federal

current debate over requiring federal

current debate over requiring federal
agents to wear body cams during

agents to wear body cams during

agents to wear body cams during
immigration enforcement because it's

immigration enforcement because it's

immigration enforcement because it's
worth remembering a pretty important

worth remembering a pretty important

worth remembering a pretty important
fact about the officers in the Alex

fact about the officers in the Alex

fact about the officers in the Alex
Pressie shooting.

Pressie shooting.

Pressie shooting.
>> Customs and Border Protection officers

>> Customs and Border Protection officers

>> Customs and Border Protection officers
involved in the deadly shooting were

involved in the deadly shooting were

involved in the deadly shooting were
wearing body cameras. The agency says

wearing body cameras. The agency says

wearing body cameras. The agency says
the footage is preserved, but it's

the footage is preserved, but it's

the footage is preserved, but it's
unclear when or whether the public's

unclear when or whether the public's

unclear when or whether the public's
going to see it.

going to see it.

going to see it.
>> Can I ask you a question? Why isn't it

>> Can I ask you a question? Why isn't it

>> Can I ask you a question? Why isn't it
automatic that the body camera footage

automatic that the body camera footage

automatic that the body camera footage
would eventually be released?

would eventually be released?

would eventually be released?
>> Uh, you'd think it would be. Uh, here

>> Uh, you'd think it would be. Uh, here

>> Uh, you'd think it would be. Uh, here
though, the Trump administration has

though, the Trump administration has

though, the Trump administration has
resisted cooperation with any

resisted cooperation with any

resisted cooperation with any
investigation. And George, remember,

investigation. And George, remember,

investigation. And George, remember,
they've already drawn a conclusion that

they've already drawn a conclusion that

they've already drawn a conclusion that
the shooting was justified.

the shooting was justified.

the shooting was justified.
>> Yeah. They still haven't released the

>> Yeah. They still haven't released the

>> Yeah. They still haven't released the
body cam footage. kind of rendering that

body cam footage. kind of rendering that

body cam footage. kind of rendering that
whole masks off, body cams on slogan

whole masks off, body cams on slogan

whole masks off, body cams on slogan
pretty toothless. Though to be fair, I

pretty toothless. Though to be fair, I

pretty toothless. Though to be fair, I
guess masks off, body cams on and

guess masks off, body cams on and

guess masks off, body cams on and
operating under clear guidelines about

operating under clear guidelines about

operating under clear guidelines about
when footage is released and overseen by

when footage is released and overseen by

when footage is released and overseen by
an independent body to ensure maximum

an independent body to ensure maximum

an independent body to ensure maximum
transparency isn't quite as catchy. And

transparency isn't quite as catchy. And

transparency isn't quite as catchy. And
if Chuck Schumer tries to say it, I

if Chuck Schumer tries to say it, I

if Chuck Schumer tries to say it, I
think his head might explode.

think his head might explode.

think his head might explode.
The point is, the reason we know what

The point is, the reason we know what

The point is, the reason we know what
happened to Alex Prey isn't because of

happened to Alex Prey isn't because of

happened to Alex Prey isn't because of
body cams. It's because of all the other

body cams. It's because of all the other

body cams. It's because of all the other
people with cell phones filming what

people with cell phones filming what

people with cell phones filming what
happened. And that is going to need to

happened. And that is going to need to

happened. And that is going to need to
continue because until we see

continue because until we see

continue because until we see
significant changes, body cams will just

significant changes, body cams will just

significant changes, body cams will just
never live up to their promise of

never live up to their promise of

never live up to their promise of
shining a real light on misconduct. And

shining a real light on misconduct. And

shining a real light on misconduct. And
if you need a visual metaphor for a

if you need a visual metaphor for a

if you need a visual metaphor for a
light being shined on things, don't

light being shined on things, don't

light being shined on things, don't
worry because I have in my hand and this

worry because I have in my hand and this

worry because I have in my hand and this
may surprise you

may surprise you

may surprise you
a flashlight.

That's our show. Thank you so much for

That's our show. Thank you so much for
watching. We'll see you next week. Good

watching. We'll see you next week. Good

watching. We'll see you next week. Good
night. Don't bl ME. DON'T BLUR ME. DON'T

night. Don't bl ME. DON'T BLUR ME. DON'T

night. Don't bl ME. DON'T BLUR ME. DON'T
BLUR ME. I don't want to be bloodstain.