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( theme music playing )
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( both laughing )
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It's bigger
than I thought.
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( both laugh )
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Jimmy:
This is nice. This is nice.
This is fuckin' nice.
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This is nice.
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( shaking spray paint can )
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Oh, man.
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- G-Bo.
- Yeah?
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- ( laughs )
- How ya doin', Pop?
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Oh, man.
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Now we're in room 104.
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- What a trip.
- Great set.
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What a trip.
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( rock music playing )
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Oh, look at this.
This is good stuff here too.
Look at this, G-Bo.
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Oh, my God. They got
all kinds of stuff over here.
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There's a lot of dynamics
with this room.
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Oh, G-Bo! Look at this.
Look at this.
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( pats box spring )
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- Yeah, that's good.
- Perfect.
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It's got like
a canvas texture to it.
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Perfect.
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Jimmy:
If you had told me
a year ago,
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where we were
and where we are,
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that this is the deal,
I would've never believed it.
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- OK, so I have a thought.
- What?
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I think if we flip
these babies around
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and throw--
get our paint on 'em,
they're gonna dry,
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and then we can
flip 'em back around
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and put our-- our strings on
while they're kinda drying.
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'Cause at some point
I'm gonna put it on the wall.
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OK.
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These are nice and light,
this is perfect.
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- The box springs are light.
- They're like a canvas,
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so the objective
is to use the box springs
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so we have
two separate pieces--
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Gianni Arone,
Jimmy Ray Flynn--
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and then everything else
is up for grabs.
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Yeah, nice.
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Uh, you're not
gonna hit the edges?
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I'm just going...
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- Hit those edges.
- You hit those edges.
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- OK.
- I didn't mean it for real.
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( laughs )
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- Hey.
- What?
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You said I could hit the edges.
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- No, leave it.
- No, baby, come on.
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- They gotta have the balance.
- No, they don't.
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- No, you don't.
- Just let me finish it.
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All right.
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Yeah, I'm gonna have to wait
till this dries.
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Yeah, it's gotta
dry a little bit.
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Do you wanna do like...
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a lamp, or you want
to do something else?
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Because I'm gonna be doing
some collage stuff.
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Gianni:
I'm not an artist
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who is formally trained
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and who is doing oils
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and, like, rendering
lifelike drawings.
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I just like makin'.
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Jimmy:
Looks good.
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Did I spell "experiencing"
right? Dad?
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Oh, shit. Is this, like,
a spelling thing?
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- I don't know.
- "Experien..."
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Can't tell.
I can't remember.
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Spelling's not my thing.
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I think so.
Jimi Hendrix Experience.
Let's see...
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- I don't know.
- Yeah, it's fine.
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Jimmy:
I work fast
and in the moment,
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I stay in the process.
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( Jimmy laughing )
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I like that. I like
when you do that shit.
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That's, like, my favorite,
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when you start
spoofing on heads.
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Gianni:
I just like getting into it,
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and I love installations.
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So to be able to use
the parameters of the room...
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because it's an installation.
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I like that. That's great.
We gotta chop that wall up.
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That's a piece.
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Jimmy:
I am his biggest fan.
I'm his number--
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I love a lot of artists,
but he's-- he's the best.
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Gianni, you picked out
some really good things.
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This is great.
It's got tape on it, too.
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Yeah, that's
the one I liked.
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- You keep this one.
- No, use it.
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- Keep it.
- Use it.
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OK.
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Jimmy:
He kinda like inspired me.
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We had talked
about collaborating
for a long time,
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but there's something
that happened this year
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with Gianni dealing with his--
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I call it "mental wellness,"
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that allowed it to flow
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in a way that
didn't feel forced.
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I said, "Hey, man,
you wanna do this?"
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"Yeah, let's do it."
We started doing it.
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I like this, G-Bo.
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I like the two ones.
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- Yeah?
- Yeah.
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I like it.
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This is like
my favorite material.
Yeah.
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Jimmy:
Can you get out of that light
for a second, please?
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- Yeah, you.
- ( camera clicks )
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Tell me that
doesn't look fucking cool.
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Yeah.
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Gianni:
I know a lot of my friends
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have fractured relationships
with their dads.
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Younger Jimmy:
My buddies.
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Say, "Hi, Mom."
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Gianni:
As a little kid, I just
remember a present father.
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He just created, like,
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a nurturing environment
for creativity.
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He would put on,
like, Tracy Chapman and music
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and we would get pots and pans
and play the drums.
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Jimmy:
Happy birthday.
I'm gonna go now.
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I want you to give me a kiss.
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( kiss )
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And he's grown into
my best friend.
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It wasn't always like that.
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Jimmy:
Ahh, yeah,
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it really didn't start to happen
until the friggin'--
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started with
the drugs and alcohol.
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I mean, that's when it just
became a whole 'nother animal.
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That's when it started to be
this clear kind of... uh-oh.
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( paint can rattling )
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You gotta be careful
with the spray paint, though.
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- I know.
- All right.
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Gianni:
Yeah, it was
shortly after high school
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when I just opened up
to something and I just
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( snaps fingers )
went in. I mean,
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you go from smokin' weed
after high school
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to next year doin' meth,
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- like smokin' crystal meth,
- Ohh.
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- which is just like a--
- The fuckin' worst.
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Which is like a epidemic
of a drug,
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and took me to places
I thought I'd never go to
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emotionally, physically,
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mentally, spiritually,
psychologically.
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It'll steal your friggin' soul.
I don't give a shit,
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I hear him say the word "meth,"
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and I get like, "I'm goin'
to another place now,"
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'cause I just--
it's, like, evil.
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Gianni:
Not only did I do meth,
but I did LSD,
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I did mushrooms,
I smoked weed.
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I smoked heroin once.
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I went down
the pipeline of,
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"What does it do?
How does it affect me?
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Let's try it."
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I was microdosing LSD for,
like, a year straight.
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And, like, that has a huge
effect on your brain chemistry,
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and I started hearing voices.
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I'm gonna start my collaging.
I'm gonna collage over here.
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I'm gonna work over here.
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You know, it's interesting
we're doing this now,
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we're literally coming up
on the year anniversary.
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Let me just back it up
a second.
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Younger Jimmy:
Make a little wish, OK?
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The night Gianni was born,
I remember him coming out
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and watching the life
come into his body.
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He just looked at me.
It was surreal.
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Cut to December fifth...
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of last year.
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He came to my house
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in a full-blown
psychotic episode.
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I didn't know
who the fuck he was.
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We had this thing
literally in the backyard,
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we were sitting there,
we were talking
across from each other,
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and he was like
in a full-blown episode.
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At one point he said to me,
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"Don't worry,
I'm not gonna kill you."
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And I thought,
"Is this motherfucker
thinkin' about killin' me?"
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And I was petrified.
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I said, "Gianni,
I'm gonna go in the house
and get some water."
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I went in the house
and I called the cops.
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And I said, "You gotta come
and get my son."
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Ahh...
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All I know is, it was like
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the hardest thing
I've ever had to do in my life.
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The cops come,
Gianni got in the car
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and, you know,
they took him
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to the fucking psych unit
and shit,
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and we went there,
first night I go in,
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he's like fuckin'
doing cartwheels
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or backflips in the thing,
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he's head-butting me,
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he's really angry,
really agitated.
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And then we found out
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that he's got
a dual diagnosis.
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Couple that with the addiction--
it's a mental illness.
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So now you're dealing with
a whole 'nother thing.
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- How ya doin', G?
- Eh.
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Yeah, it's...
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- It's all over the place.
- Yeah.
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All right, well,
it's your thing, baby.
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Let's put a whole series
together...
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Gianni:
I've been diagnosed
bipolar I and II,
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schizoaffective,
schizophrenic.
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I don't know
if my mental illness was
caused from my drug use--
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Is it chemically induced
mental illness,
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or is actually something
that's biological?
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Or something
that onset later?
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They would diagnose me,
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and I'd do the meds
for a little bit,
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then I'd take myself off 'em
because I was just like,
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I'm an alcoholic
and I'm an addict,
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and I like feeling high,
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and when I'm unmedicated
and I go into mania,
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I feel high from that.
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I like feeling a little off,
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I like feeling
a little weird,
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I like feeling a little askew
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and not totally
bolted to the ground.
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Can you throw me
one of those rags real quick?
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Like the big hand?
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It's a little too big
for my taste, but--
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Can you throw me
one of those rags, please?
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Maybe it is
too big of a hand.
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Wanna have a seat?
Wanna sit down?
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G-Bo.
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Wanna sit down?
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I don't like it at all
right now.
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There's no question
in my mind
you're gonna get there.
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No, I know, I'm not
worried about getting there.
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You jumped in,
the paint was still wet...
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- You know what I mean?
- Looks like a big chicken.
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I don't see a chicken
at all.
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I just see like
a fuckin'...
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- A blob.
- I don't see a blob,
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I just see a very exaggerated,
grotesque...
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If I were you,
one of the things I would do is,
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I would hit your canvas
so there's kind of
a little bit more white to it,
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and then as you go over it,
the other things will pop out.
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- Yeah, I agree.
- Right?
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So just hit it again.
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What are you doin'?
Why don't you hit it
with the roller?
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'Cause I don't like
the roller.
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Ohh, Gianni,
the paint's gonna
take forever to dry.
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Ohh.
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He's not fuckin' listenin'
to me.
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The way you're doing that,
man, it's gonna take
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a long time to dry.
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These are lessons
that I was supposed to learn
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about, like, backin' off,
246
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not micromanaging.
247
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Yeah, man,
I would just hit that.
248
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Hit the edge too.
249
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Yeah, there you go,
brother.
250
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Yeah, man, that's much better.
251
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Gianni:
For me, being born
into a human body
252
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on planet Earth
didn't make sense to me.
253
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I'm like, what am I--
what is this?
254
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What's this night/day,
love/hate, good/bad,
255
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all this polarity,
all this separation?
256
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This doesn't make sense
to my inherent nature
and my inherent being
257
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of oneness and completeness
and, like, a unified whole.
258
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I feel fractured and separated
and alone and weird,
259
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and I've always been fascinated
with the moment of death,
260
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and so I...
261
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wanted to meet death
a couple times on my own sword.
262
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Maybe I'll just do
a big horse on it.
263
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For me, I had...
264
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two attempts on my life,
265
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one was when I was younger,
266
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and then the last one
was more intentional.
267
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Gonna wait
for it to dry.
268
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I had an episode
that I can only describe
269
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as losing the letters
and the numbers.
270
00:13:58,547 --> 00:14:01,464
I couldn't articulate myself,
and therefore,
271
00:14:01,547 --> 00:14:03,506
when I came out
of the psychosis
272
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I couldn't relate to anyone.
273
00:14:04,923 --> 00:14:07,631
And I created this rig,
274
00:14:07,714 --> 00:14:10,673
and I was about
to turn on the switch,
275
00:14:10,756 --> 00:14:12,422
and then there was
a knock on my door,
276
00:14:12,506 --> 00:14:16,047
and my ex-girlfriend Sunshine
knocked on-- opened the door
277
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and saved my life,
called my dad.
278
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Jimmy:
As he's telling you
he's whatever,
279
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I have to respect
what he's saying,
280
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'cause it's real for him.
281
00:14:24,923 --> 00:14:27,964
There was a point
when he was either
282
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in the hospital
or just getting out,
283
00:14:30,172 --> 00:14:32,631
I said, "You know something?
I will talk to you,
284
00:14:32,714 --> 00:14:34,255
but I won't talk
to your psychosis."
285
00:14:34,339 --> 00:14:37,756
So for him
to tell you this story,
286
00:14:37,839 --> 00:14:39,964
and for me to listen to it,
whatever,
287
00:14:40,047 --> 00:14:41,255
I have to remind myself
288
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they're very real for him.
289
00:14:43,089 --> 00:14:45,172
I don't relate to it,
you know?
290
00:14:45,255 --> 00:14:46,839
I mean, I don't fuckin'
relate to it,
291
00:14:46,923 --> 00:14:48,839
but it's real for him,
so I gotta respect it.
292
00:14:48,923 --> 00:14:50,547
Yeah. Well.
293
00:14:50,631 --> 00:14:53,255
- A horse.
- Yeah.
294
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( both laugh )
295
00:14:55,881 --> 00:14:57,255
Gianni: Yeah,
296
00:14:57,339 --> 00:15:00,255
today I want to live,
like, uh,
297
00:15:00,339 --> 00:15:02,798
when I had those
suicide attempts,
298
00:15:02,881 --> 00:15:04,714
I didn't feel like
299
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this life that I'm living today
was possible
300
00:15:07,047 --> 00:15:09,839
or even on my radar,
so more will be revealed
301
00:15:09,923 --> 00:15:12,130
if you stick around.
302
00:15:15,047 --> 00:15:17,214
Today, like,
I like peace of mind.
303
00:15:17,297 --> 00:15:20,089
For the most part if someone
asks me how I'm doing,
304
00:15:20,172 --> 00:15:22,964
it's like, not too high,
not too low,
305
00:15:23,047 --> 00:15:25,673
not a lot going on upstairs,
it's just quiet.
306
00:15:25,756 --> 00:15:28,422
This is the first time
in my life I've felt like that,
307
00:15:28,506 --> 00:15:30,464
but it's two components:
308
00:15:30,547 --> 00:15:33,172
being sober
and being med-compliant.
309
00:15:33,255 --> 00:15:35,923
You got so much friggin' paint
on it. ( laughs )
310
00:15:36,005 --> 00:15:38,422
You got a ton of paint
on this, Gianni.
311
00:15:38,506 --> 00:15:40,422
- Yeah.
- Ohh.
312
00:15:40,506 --> 00:15:42,172
Jimmy:
I myself had a--
313
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I don't want to call it
a suicide attempt,
314
00:15:44,214 --> 00:15:45,881
but I ended up in a 72-hour hold
in a psych unit
315
00:15:45,964 --> 00:15:50,297
back in whatever year,
it was 1989, '90.
316
00:15:50,381 --> 00:15:53,255
Gianni's mom and I
were going through
317
00:15:53,339 --> 00:15:56,923
a really hard time
and we split up,
318
00:15:57,005 --> 00:15:59,089
and I don't want
to get into details,
319
00:15:59,172 --> 00:16:01,422
but I never forget
this friggin' guy
320
00:16:01,506 --> 00:16:04,089
sittin' across from me
and saying,
321
00:16:04,172 --> 00:16:07,381
"You realize you're never gonna
see your kids again, right?"
322
00:16:07,464 --> 00:16:09,589
And it was like, boom.
323
00:16:10,839 --> 00:16:12,839
Sound. Be ready.
324
00:16:12,923 --> 00:16:14,756
( power tool whirs )
325
00:16:14,839 --> 00:16:17,631
I'm from that generation of men
326
00:16:17,714 --> 00:16:18,964
where you didn't go to therapy.
327
00:16:19,047 --> 00:16:21,339
When you got
into those places,
328
00:16:21,422 --> 00:16:23,172
you just friggin'
toughed it out.
329
00:16:23,255 --> 00:16:25,589
But you know what?
It doesn't always work that way.
330
00:16:25,673 --> 00:16:30,297
When you're in crisis,
when you're in that state,
331
00:16:30,381 --> 00:16:32,881
you have to find a way
to ask for help.
332
00:16:32,964 --> 00:16:35,923
You have to find a way
to get yourself into
333
00:16:36,005 --> 00:16:38,297
a safe environment
with professionals,
334
00:16:38,381 --> 00:16:41,756
and there's people out there
that will help you
335
00:16:41,839 --> 00:16:44,047
take one foot
in front of the other.
336
00:16:44,130 --> 00:16:45,255
Yeah, it takes
a lot of courage.
337
00:16:45,339 --> 00:16:46,589
It takes guts.
338
00:16:46,673 --> 00:16:48,631
And on some level
I have a lot of guilt,
339
00:16:48,714 --> 00:16:50,506
and I think sometimes
my behavior
340
00:16:50,589 --> 00:16:53,297
in what I did at that time,
341
00:16:53,381 --> 00:16:54,714
when I hurt myself--
342
00:16:54,798 --> 00:16:56,506
Gianni was like
seven years old.
343
00:16:56,589 --> 00:16:59,589
I made mistakes, man,
I did some things,
344
00:16:59,673 --> 00:17:01,631
and I can't take
any of it back,
345
00:17:01,714 --> 00:17:03,839
but I realize,
you know what,
346
00:17:03,923 --> 00:17:07,089
it's just part of
what's happened in my life.
347
00:17:10,172 --> 00:17:13,839
Gianni:
Oh, yeah, man, that looks good!
348
00:17:13,923 --> 00:17:15,839
That's dope.
349
00:17:15,923 --> 00:17:17,089
Fuck yeah.
350
00:17:17,172 --> 00:17:19,172
What do you think? G-Bo.
351
00:17:19,255 --> 00:17:20,631
Oh, yeah, dude.
352
00:17:23,422 --> 00:17:25,506
I like the way
that hangs and shit.
353
00:17:25,589 --> 00:17:26,798
- You like that?
- Yeah, man.
354
00:17:26,881 --> 00:17:28,381
Jimmy:
Looks pretty good.
355
00:17:28,464 --> 00:17:32,673
I'm faced with a little bit
of a decision.
356
00:17:33,964 --> 00:17:35,214
Revolver Head?
357
00:17:35,297 --> 00:17:37,631
Gianni:
No Revolver Head, no.
358
00:17:37,714 --> 00:17:40,005
See how the Grotjahn looks.
359
00:17:42,631 --> 00:17:44,255
I love this fucking guy.
360
00:17:45,589 --> 00:17:46,964
I'm not sure
if that's gonna work.
361
00:17:47,047 --> 00:17:48,756
- There's too much color.
- Yeah.
362
00:17:50,005 --> 00:17:51,631
Ahh.
363
00:17:51,714 --> 00:17:53,422
I don't think
that's gonna work.
364
00:17:53,506 --> 00:17:55,798
- I like the donut.
- I like the donut too.
365
00:17:55,881 --> 00:18:00,589
Yeah, this is-- this is not
gonna work like that.
366
00:18:03,422 --> 00:18:06,881
Gianni:
For me, the mainstay has been
this mantra I've had
367
00:18:06,964 --> 00:18:09,547
which is "Process is king."
And I find that, like,
368
00:18:09,631 --> 00:18:11,255
in the moment of creating,
369
00:18:11,339 --> 00:18:13,214
no matter what
your mental state is,
370
00:18:13,297 --> 00:18:15,964
there's some magical
machination
371
00:18:16,047 --> 00:18:18,464
that happens in the moment
of doing something.
372
00:18:18,547 --> 00:18:20,464
Whether you're hitting the keys
on the piano,
373
00:18:20,547 --> 00:18:22,464
whether you're a dancer and
you're in the moment of flight,
374
00:18:22,547 --> 00:18:24,756
whether you're hitting
the canvas for the first time,
375
00:18:24,839 --> 00:18:26,923
and it's just
that movement of the brush
376
00:18:27,005 --> 00:18:28,464
on the canvas.
377
00:18:28,547 --> 00:18:30,589
In that moment,
that's where it is,
378
00:18:30,673 --> 00:18:31,964
that's where it's at.
379
00:18:33,506 --> 00:18:35,047
Is that a Christmas tree?
380
00:18:35,130 --> 00:18:38,381
These weird little trees
I've been drawing lately...
381
00:18:38,464 --> 00:18:40,339
that bring me joy.
382
00:18:40,422 --> 00:18:42,923
Gianni:
No matter what my state is,
383
00:18:43,005 --> 00:18:44,589
I can go to that
and have that
384
00:18:44,673 --> 00:18:46,214
as my, like-- phtt!--
385
00:18:46,297 --> 00:18:47,923
centered, boom,
know what to do.
386
00:18:48,005 --> 00:18:49,881
That's the gratifying thing,
387
00:18:49,964 --> 00:18:51,422
that's why I do art.
388
00:18:51,506 --> 00:18:54,255
There's restraint
and pause
389
00:18:54,339 --> 00:18:55,756
and peace now,
390
00:18:55,839 --> 00:18:57,839
where I can go to a work,
391
00:18:57,923 --> 00:18:59,506
work on it,
392
00:18:59,589 --> 00:19:02,047
feel that it's OK
to stop there,
393
00:19:02,130 --> 00:19:04,547
just be like,
"OK, we're good."
394
00:19:05,714 --> 00:19:07,214
( sighs )
395
00:19:10,214 --> 00:19:12,214
I kinda like
where mine's at
right now.
396
00:19:12,297 --> 00:19:14,297
You gonna leave it there?
It's done?
397
00:19:14,381 --> 00:19:15,381
Kinda. Yeah. For now.
398
00:19:15,464 --> 00:19:17,381
Jimmy:
What about the head?
399
00:19:17,464 --> 00:19:19,964
- I like it like that.
- Really?
400
00:19:20,047 --> 00:19:21,798
I just like the silhouette
of the head.
401
00:19:21,881 --> 00:19:24,172
I don't want to put eyes on it
or anything.
402
00:19:24,255 --> 00:19:27,756
I got the good jawline
on the horse head.
403
00:19:27,839 --> 00:19:31,964
Gianni:
Last year around this time,
like, I was scared,
404
00:19:32,047 --> 00:19:35,422
I thought I wouldn't
be able to do art again,
but you just do art.
405
00:19:35,506 --> 00:19:38,339
I did art about
not being able
to do art again.
406
00:19:38,422 --> 00:19:40,923
I did a piece of art
'cause I was frustrated
407
00:19:41,005 --> 00:19:43,673
'cause it didn't feel right,
but I still did it.
408
00:19:43,756 --> 00:19:47,589
And now I kinda like the piece,
looking at it a year later.
409
00:19:47,673 --> 00:19:49,798
But in the time,
I was just so angry
410
00:19:49,881 --> 00:19:52,005
I just felt like,
"This is foreign to me,
411
00:19:52,089 --> 00:19:54,255
I don't know what to do,"
but you persist,
412
00:19:54,339 --> 00:19:57,089
you continue to do your craft
a little bit each day.
413
00:19:57,172 --> 00:19:59,589
And if you really love it,
you're gonna be
inherently consistent
414
00:19:59,673 --> 00:20:01,547
because you're gonna
want to do it each day.
415
00:20:01,631 --> 00:20:03,714
And the results are gonna vary,
416
00:20:03,798 --> 00:20:06,756
but process is king--
stay in the process.
417
00:20:06,839 --> 00:20:08,255
Stay in the process.
418
00:20:08,339 --> 00:20:11,005
Both:
Creativity doesn't know
what time it is.
419
00:20:11,089 --> 00:20:13,047
That's why we want
to sleep here.
420
00:20:13,130 --> 00:20:15,297
I get up
in the middle of the night
and work on a collage
421
00:20:15,381 --> 00:20:17,923
'cause creativity
doesn't know what time it is.
422
00:20:41,798 --> 00:20:43,714
- ( both laugh )
- Go ahead, hit it.
423
00:20:43,798 --> 00:20:45,964
- I did.
- No, hit it again if you want.
424
00:20:46,047 --> 00:20:49,005
I know you're dying
to make a mark on it.
Go ahead.
425
00:20:49,089 --> 00:20:51,589
Gianni:
These are pretty singular,
426
00:20:51,673 --> 00:20:53,547
but he put on this
"Sweet Dreams" last night...
427
00:20:53,631 --> 00:20:55,964
Because it was on the wall.
428
00:20:56,047 --> 00:20:57,464
and I was like,
"That's awesome."
429
00:20:57,547 --> 00:20:59,089
Somebody in the crew
was kind enough
430
00:20:59,172 --> 00:21:00,631
to put "Sweet Dreams"
on the wall
431
00:21:00,714 --> 00:21:02,631
and I saw it and I said,
"Put it in the piece."
432
00:21:02,714 --> 00:21:05,464
- It's the name of the horse.
- We don't know who it is,
433
00:21:05,547 --> 00:21:07,506
but whoever it is,
we love you. It works.
434
00:21:07,589 --> 00:21:10,214
And I made a little gold mark
on his just now.
435
00:21:10,297 --> 00:21:11,714
He wants to,
like, make marks,
436
00:21:11,798 --> 00:21:13,422
I don't have a problem
with it.
437
00:21:13,506 --> 00:21:15,756
Like, we did this thing,
the Grotjahn thing,
438
00:21:15,839 --> 00:21:17,589
and I said, "Just go hit it,"
439
00:21:17,673 --> 00:21:20,506
and he just did
this little friggin'
whatever-it-is,
440
00:21:20,589 --> 00:21:21,631
and I think it's perfect.
441
00:21:21,714 --> 00:21:23,130
I think the collaboration, too,
442
00:21:23,214 --> 00:21:25,756
is, like, executing
the tone of the room too,
443
00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:30,214
does this wall come together
as a seamless whole?
444
00:21:47,381 --> 00:21:51,172
I, uh, caused
a lot of wreckage
445
00:21:51,255 --> 00:21:52,631
and a lot of pain
446
00:21:52,714 --> 00:21:54,381
and a lot of chaos.
447
00:21:54,464 --> 00:21:58,214
And I'm still
a work in progress, you know,
448
00:21:58,297 --> 00:22:00,130
I'm still really new to this.
449
00:22:00,214 --> 00:22:02,631
But a lot's changed
over the course of the year
450
00:22:02,714 --> 00:22:04,631
because I put in
some intense work
451
00:22:04,714 --> 00:22:07,089
and I've been trying to get--
get sober
452
00:22:07,172 --> 00:22:09,130
and get healthy
for a long time.
453
00:22:09,214 --> 00:22:12,756
And my living amends
to my dad
454
00:22:12,839 --> 00:22:14,964
is to grant him
peace of mind.
455
00:22:15,047 --> 00:22:16,631
It's a lifetime of work,
456
00:22:16,714 --> 00:22:18,589
and it's something
I get to practice--
457
00:22:18,673 --> 00:22:22,130
I have the opportunity
to practice each day.
458
00:22:24,089 --> 00:22:27,547
Jimmy:
I had to, like, learn
about patience, acceptance,
459
00:22:27,631 --> 00:22:29,756
those things
that really test you.
460
00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:31,631
You say you love somebody,
you say whatever,
461
00:22:31,714 --> 00:22:33,839
but until you're in that arena
462
00:22:33,923 --> 00:22:35,714
and you're wrestling
with those beasts and stuff,
463
00:22:35,798 --> 00:22:38,172
that's where you find out
where your character's at.
464
00:22:38,255 --> 00:22:39,923
You know,
at the end of the day,
465
00:22:40,005 --> 00:22:41,589
he's someone that needs help,
he's sick.
466
00:22:41,673 --> 00:22:43,464
I gotta figure out a way
to have a relationship,
467
00:22:43,547 --> 00:22:45,047
but have a boundary,
468
00:22:45,130 --> 00:22:46,923
that I can protect myself
and take care of myself
469
00:22:47,005 --> 00:22:49,714
and my wife and my family.
470
00:22:55,172 --> 00:22:58,464
You know,
maybe part of the thing
about doing this thing
471
00:22:58,547 --> 00:23:00,673
is that I'm hoping,
when somebody sees this,
472
00:23:00,756 --> 00:23:03,381
is that yeah,
there's a lot of pain,
473
00:23:03,464 --> 00:23:05,506
there's a lot of scars,
there's a lot of wounding,
474
00:23:05,589 --> 00:23:08,005
but you know, there is healing
and there is--
475
00:23:08,089 --> 00:23:10,714
there's a light
at the end of the tunnel.
476
00:23:10,798 --> 00:23:15,172
But you gotta do the work,
you gotta do the time.
477
00:23:15,255 --> 00:23:18,714
When you told me the other day
that you trusted me again...
478
00:23:18,798 --> 00:23:22,089
was huge...
that was huge.
479
00:23:22,172 --> 00:23:24,714
- Yeah, but you had to earn it.
- Yeah, I know.
480
00:23:24,798 --> 00:23:26,673
You had to earn it.
481
00:23:26,756 --> 00:23:28,255
And you have.
482
00:23:28,339 --> 00:23:32,631
You know,
trust is a key component
of any relationship.
483
00:23:32,714 --> 00:23:35,381
You don't have trust, man,
you don't have honesty,
484
00:23:35,464 --> 00:23:38,214
you don't have the tenets,
you don't have the foundation,
485
00:23:38,297 --> 00:23:39,964
you don't have anything.
486
00:23:40,047 --> 00:23:41,673
That's what I'm saying,
you know,
487
00:23:41,756 --> 00:23:43,756
some of the stuff
that went on between
you and I,
488
00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:46,214
I just...
it was hard shit.
489
00:23:46,297 --> 00:23:51,631
And... And I know that
everything happens in life
for a reason,
490
00:23:51,714 --> 00:23:55,464
but... there was
a lot of pain there.
491
00:23:55,547 --> 00:23:59,631
But you know,
trusting you is...
492
00:24:06,964 --> 00:24:09,714
- ( voice breaking ) Thank you.
- You're welcome, Papa.
493
00:24:09,798 --> 00:24:11,798
No, really,
fuckin' thanks.
494
00:24:11,881 --> 00:24:14,714
I'm not gonna fuckin' cry
through the whole
fuckin' thing.
495
00:24:14,798 --> 00:24:17,005
- ( laughs )
- Fuck.
496
00:24:17,089 --> 00:24:19,297
Seriously. Shit.
497
00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:23,881
♪ I hope my body's a ghost ♪
498
00:24:23,964 --> 00:24:28,047
♪ I just want
to lay around town ♪
499
00:24:30,047 --> 00:24:32,464
♪ I hope my body's a ghost ♪
500
00:24:32,547 --> 00:24:36,547
♪ I just want
to lay around town ♪
501
00:24:38,756 --> 00:24:42,589
♪ Take cover when
the city burns ♪
502
00:24:42,673 --> 00:24:44,047
♪ Lay low ♪
503
00:24:47,047 --> 00:24:48,547
♪ I love you, brother ♪
504
00:24:48,631 --> 00:24:51,547
♪ Will you shoot me
when they say so? ♪
505
00:24:56,047 --> 00:24:59,089
♪ Take cover when
the city burns ♪
506
00:24:59,172 --> 00:25:01,089
♪ Lay low ♪
507
00:25:03,547 --> 00:25:05,047
♪ I love you, brother ♪
508
00:25:05,130 --> 00:25:08,089
♪ Will you shoot me
when they say so? ♪
509
00:25:14,089 --> 00:25:16,631
♪ I hope my body's a ghost ♪
510
00:25:16,714 --> 00:25:20,089
♪ I just want
to lay around town ♪
511
00:25:27,547 --> 00:25:30,506
MAN: (SINGING)
♪ I know the secret of it all ♪
512
00:25:30,756 --> 00:25:32,464
♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYS) ♪
513
00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:33,923
♪ Longing ♪
514
00:25:35,089 --> 00:25:36,214
♪ Waiting ♪
515
00:25:37,381 --> 00:25:39,381
-♪ You're... ♪
-(SCREAMING)
516
00:25:39,964 --> 00:25:41,089
(SILENCE)
517
00:25:41,422 --> 00:25:44,756
For it is love and love alone,
the rules for aye.
518
00:25:45,172 --> 00:25:47,130
♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
519
00:25:49,673 --> 00:25:51,172
♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
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