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This is good stuff here too. Look at this, G-Bo. 17 00:01:45,547 --> 00:01:48,589 Oh, my God. They got all kinds of stuff over here. 18 00:01:48,673 --> 00:01:51,005 There's a lot of dynamics with this room. 19 00:01:56,005 --> 00:01:58,881 Oh, G-Bo! Look at this. Look at this. 20 00:01:58,964 --> 00:02:00,255 ( pats box spring ) 21 00:02:00,339 --> 00:02:02,422 - Yeah, that's good. - Perfect. 22 00:02:02,506 --> 00:02:04,422 It's got like a canvas texture to it. 23 00:02:04,506 --> 00:02:05,798 Perfect. 24 00:02:05,881 --> 00:02:07,923 Jimmy: If you had told me a year ago, 25 00:02:08,005 --> 00:02:09,798 where we were and where we are, 26 00:02:09,881 --> 00:02:13,297 that this is the deal, I would've never believed it. 27 00:02:13,381 --> 00:02:15,589 - OK, so I have a thought. - What? 28 00:02:15,673 --> 00:02:17,714 I think if we flip these babies around 29 00:02:17,798 --> 00:02:20,464 and throw-- get our paint on 'em, they're gonna dry, 30 00:02:20,547 --> 00:02:22,547 and then we can flip 'em back around 31 00:02:22,631 --> 00:02:25,422 and put our-- our strings on while they're kinda drying. 32 00:02:25,506 --> 00:02:27,964 'Cause at some point I'm gonna put it on the wall. 33 00:02:28,047 --> 00:02:29,005 OK. 34 00:02:30,339 --> 00:02:32,881 These are nice and light, this is perfect. 35 00:02:32,964 --> 00:02:35,631 - The box springs are light. - They're like a canvas, 36 00:02:35,714 --> 00:02:38,381 so the objective is to use the box springs 37 00:02:38,464 --> 00:02:40,756 so we have two separate pieces-- 38 00:02:40,839 --> 00:02:43,005 Gianni Arone, Jimmy Ray Flynn-- 39 00:02:43,089 --> 00:02:45,673 and then everything else is up for grabs. 40 00:02:49,547 --> 00:02:50,839 Yeah, nice. 41 00:02:50,923 --> 00:02:53,339 Uh, you're not gonna hit the edges? 42 00:02:53,422 --> 00:02:54,923 I'm just going... 43 00:02:55,005 --> 00:02:57,798 - Hit those edges. - You hit those edges. 44 00:02:57,881 --> 00:03:00,589 - OK. - I didn't mean it for real. 45 00:03:00,673 --> 00:03:02,589 ( laughs ) 46 00:03:04,255 --> 00:03:05,130 - Hey. - What? 47 00:03:05,214 --> 00:03:06,631 You said I could hit the edges. 48 00:03:06,714 --> 00:03:08,839 - No, leave it. - No, baby, come on. 49 00:03:08,923 --> 00:03:11,130 - They gotta have the balance. - No, they don't. 50 00:03:11,214 --> 00:03:13,673 - No, you don't. - Just let me finish it. 51 00:03:13,756 --> 00:03:15,214 All right. 52 00:03:21,005 --> 00:03:22,714 Yeah, I'm gonna have to wait till this dries. 53 00:03:22,798 --> 00:03:24,464 Yeah, it's gotta dry a little bit. 54 00:03:24,547 --> 00:03:26,547 Do you wanna do like... 55 00:03:26,631 --> 00:03:28,172 a lamp, or you want to do something else? 56 00:03:28,255 --> 00:03:30,589 Because I'm gonna be doing some collage stuff. 57 00:03:37,047 --> 00:03:38,714 Gianni: I'm not an artist 58 00:03:38,798 --> 00:03:40,381 who is formally trained 59 00:03:40,464 --> 00:03:42,964 and who is doing oils 60 00:03:43,047 --> 00:03:45,714 and, like, rendering lifelike drawings. 61 00:03:45,798 --> 00:03:48,214 I just like makin'. 62 00:03:48,297 --> 00:03:50,589 Jimmy: Looks good. 63 00:03:50,673 --> 00:03:54,381 Did I spell "experiencing" right? Dad? 64 00:03:54,464 --> 00:03:56,714 Oh, shit. Is this, like, a spelling thing? 65 00:03:56,798 --> 00:03:58,839 - I don't know. - "Experien..." 66 00:03:58,923 --> 00:04:00,547 Can't tell. I can't remember. 67 00:04:00,631 --> 00:04:02,756 Spelling's not my thing. 68 00:04:02,839 --> 00:04:07,339 I think so. Jimi Hendrix Experience. Let's see... 69 00:04:07,422 --> 00:04:09,631 - I don't know. - Yeah, it's fine. 70 00:04:09,714 --> 00:04:12,047 Jimmy: I work fast and in the moment, 71 00:04:12,130 --> 00:04:14,172 I stay in the process. 72 00:04:14,255 --> 00:04:16,130 ( Jimmy laughing ) 73 00:04:16,214 --> 00:04:18,714 I like that. I like when you do that shit. 74 00:04:18,798 --> 00:04:20,005 That's, like, my favorite, 75 00:04:20,089 --> 00:04:21,923 when you start spoofing on heads. 76 00:04:22,005 --> 00:04:24,631 Gianni: I just like getting into it, 77 00:04:24,714 --> 00:04:26,756 and I love installations. 78 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,089 So to be able to use the parameters of the room... 79 00:04:30,172 --> 00:04:32,506 because it's an installation. 80 00:04:33,964 --> 00:04:37,422 I like that. That's great. We gotta chop that wall up. 81 00:04:37,506 --> 00:04:39,255 That's a piece. 82 00:04:39,339 --> 00:04:41,964 Jimmy: I am his biggest fan. I'm his number-- 83 00:04:42,047 --> 00:04:44,381 I love a lot of artists, but he's-- he's the best. 84 00:04:44,464 --> 00:04:47,589 Gianni, you picked out some really good things. 85 00:04:47,673 --> 00:04:49,714 This is great. It's got tape on it, too. 86 00:04:49,798 --> 00:04:50,923 Yeah, that's the one I liked. 87 00:04:51,005 --> 00:04:52,964 - You keep this one. - No, use it. 88 00:04:53,047 --> 00:04:54,214 - Keep it. - Use it. 89 00:04:54,297 --> 00:04:55,631 OK. 90 00:04:55,714 --> 00:04:57,339 Jimmy: He kinda like inspired me. 91 00:04:57,422 --> 00:05:00,964 We had talked about collaborating for a long time, 92 00:05:01,047 --> 00:05:03,214 but there's something that happened this year 93 00:05:03,297 --> 00:05:06,255 with Gianni dealing with his-- 94 00:05:06,339 --> 00:05:07,631 I call it "mental wellness," 95 00:05:07,714 --> 00:05:10,005 that allowed it to flow 96 00:05:10,089 --> 00:05:11,422 in a way that didn't feel forced. 97 00:05:11,506 --> 00:05:13,589 I said, "Hey, man, you wanna do this?" 98 00:05:13,673 --> 00:05:16,714 "Yeah, let's do it." We started doing it. 99 00:05:18,255 --> 00:05:20,172 I like this, G-Bo. 100 00:05:20,255 --> 00:05:22,506 I like the two ones. 101 00:05:22,589 --> 00:05:24,506 - Yeah? - Yeah. 102 00:05:24,589 --> 00:05:25,881 I like it. 103 00:05:25,964 --> 00:05:29,089 This is like my favorite material. Yeah. 104 00:05:36,547 --> 00:05:39,381 Jimmy: Can you get out of that light for a second, please? 105 00:05:40,589 --> 00:05:43,172 - Yeah, you. - ( camera clicks ) 106 00:05:43,255 --> 00:05:45,839 Tell me that doesn't look fucking cool. 107 00:05:45,923 --> 00:05:47,631 Yeah. 108 00:05:47,714 --> 00:05:49,547 Gianni: I know a lot of my friends 109 00:05:49,631 --> 00:05:51,923 have fractured relationships with their dads. 110 00:05:58,589 --> 00:06:00,255 Younger Jimmy: My buddies. 111 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,798 Say, "Hi, Mom." 112 00:06:04,881 --> 00:06:08,381 Gianni: As a little kid, I just remember a present father. 113 00:06:12,255 --> 00:06:14,297 He just created, like, 114 00:06:14,381 --> 00:06:16,839 a nurturing environment for creativity. 115 00:06:16,923 --> 00:06:19,839 He would put on, like, Tracy Chapman and music 116 00:06:19,923 --> 00:06:22,923 and we would get pots and pans and play the drums. 117 00:06:23,005 --> 00:06:25,214 Jimmy: Happy birthday. I'm gonna go now. 118 00:06:25,297 --> 00:06:27,214 I want you to give me a kiss. 119 00:06:27,297 --> 00:06:28,714 ( kiss ) 120 00:06:28,798 --> 00:06:32,673 And he's grown into my best friend. 121 00:06:32,756 --> 00:06:34,964 It wasn't always like that. 122 00:06:37,297 --> 00:06:39,714 Jimmy: Ahh, yeah, 123 00:06:39,798 --> 00:06:42,297 it really didn't start to happen until the friggin'-- 124 00:06:42,381 --> 00:06:44,506 started with the drugs and alcohol. 125 00:06:44,589 --> 00:06:46,881 I mean, that's when it just became a whole 'nother animal. 126 00:06:46,964 --> 00:06:52,047 That's when it started to be this clear kind of... uh-oh. 127 00:06:52,130 --> 00:06:53,381 ( paint can rattling ) 128 00:06:53,464 --> 00:06:55,381 You gotta be careful with the spray paint, though. 129 00:06:55,464 --> 00:06:57,464 - I know. - All right. 130 00:07:00,255 --> 00:07:02,714 Gianni: Yeah, it was shortly after high school 131 00:07:02,798 --> 00:07:05,923 when I just opened up to something and I just 132 00:07:06,005 --> 00:07:07,923 ( snaps fingers ) went in. I mean, 133 00:07:08,005 --> 00:07:11,297 you go from smokin' weed after high school 134 00:07:11,381 --> 00:07:12,631 to next year doin' meth, 135 00:07:12,714 --> 00:07:15,214 - like smokin' crystal meth, - Ohh. 136 00:07:15,297 --> 00:07:16,923 - which is just like a-- - The fuckin' worst. 137 00:07:17,005 --> 00:07:19,130 Which is like a epidemic of a drug, 138 00:07:19,214 --> 00:07:23,005 and took me to places I thought I'd never go to 139 00:07:23,089 --> 00:07:25,798 emotionally, physically, 140 00:07:25,881 --> 00:07:28,214 mentally, spiritually, psychologically. 141 00:07:28,297 --> 00:07:30,005 It'll steal your friggin' soul. I don't give a shit, 142 00:07:30,089 --> 00:07:31,673 I hear him say the word "meth," 143 00:07:31,756 --> 00:07:34,589 and I get like, "I'm goin' to another place now," 144 00:07:34,673 --> 00:07:37,130 'cause I just-- it's, like, evil. 145 00:07:38,839 --> 00:07:41,464 Gianni: Not only did I do meth, but I did LSD, 146 00:07:41,547 --> 00:07:42,714 I did mushrooms, I smoked weed. 147 00:07:42,798 --> 00:07:44,631 I smoked heroin once. 148 00:07:44,714 --> 00:07:46,047 I went down the pipeline of, 149 00:07:46,130 --> 00:07:48,339 "What does it do? How does it affect me? 150 00:07:48,422 --> 00:07:49,422 Let's try it." 151 00:07:51,547 --> 00:07:54,464 I was microdosing LSD for, like, a year straight. 152 00:07:54,547 --> 00:07:59,214 And, like, that has a huge effect on your brain chemistry, 153 00:07:59,297 --> 00:08:02,047 and I started hearing voices. 154 00:08:09,381 --> 00:08:13,005 I'm gonna start my collaging. I'm gonna collage over here. 155 00:08:13,089 --> 00:08:15,089 I'm gonna work over here. 156 00:08:15,172 --> 00:08:17,297 You know, it's interesting we're doing this now, 157 00:08:17,381 --> 00:08:20,214 we're literally coming up on the year anniversary. 158 00:08:22,714 --> 00:08:25,130 Let me just back it up a second. 159 00:08:25,214 --> 00:08:27,172 Younger Jimmy: Make a little wish, OK? 160 00:08:27,255 --> 00:08:29,673 The night Gianni was born, I remember him coming out 161 00:08:29,756 --> 00:08:32,172 and watching the life come into his body. 162 00:08:32,255 --> 00:08:34,255 He just looked at me. It was surreal. 163 00:08:35,339 --> 00:08:39,839 Cut to December fifth... 164 00:08:39,923 --> 00:08:41,923 of last year. 165 00:08:42,005 --> 00:08:44,881 He came to my house 166 00:08:44,964 --> 00:08:47,839 in a full-blown psychotic episode. 167 00:08:47,923 --> 00:08:49,798 I didn't know who the fuck he was. 168 00:08:54,839 --> 00:08:56,798 We had this thing literally in the backyard, 169 00:08:56,881 --> 00:08:59,130 we were sitting there, we were talking across from each other, 170 00:08:59,214 --> 00:09:01,005 and he was like in a full-blown episode. 171 00:09:01,089 --> 00:09:02,422 At one point he said to me, 172 00:09:02,506 --> 00:09:04,547 "Don't worry, I'm not gonna kill you." 173 00:09:04,631 --> 00:09:07,005 And I thought, "Is this motherfucker thinkin' about killin' me?" 174 00:09:07,089 --> 00:09:09,339 And I was petrified. 175 00:09:09,422 --> 00:09:11,589 I said, "Gianni, I'm gonna go in the house and get some water." 176 00:09:11,673 --> 00:09:13,339 I went in the house and I called the cops. 177 00:09:13,422 --> 00:09:15,964 And I said, "You gotta come and get my son." 178 00:09:18,172 --> 00:09:19,297 Ahh... 179 00:09:19,381 --> 00:09:21,964 All I know is, it was like 180 00:09:22,047 --> 00:09:24,964 the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my life. 181 00:09:30,297 --> 00:09:33,547 The cops come, Gianni got in the car 182 00:09:33,631 --> 00:09:35,381 and, you know, they took him 183 00:09:35,464 --> 00:09:37,047 to the fucking psych unit and shit, 184 00:09:37,130 --> 00:09:39,047 and we went there, first night I go in, 185 00:09:39,130 --> 00:09:41,714 he's like fuckin' doing cartwheels 186 00:09:41,798 --> 00:09:43,047 or backflips in the thing, 187 00:09:43,130 --> 00:09:44,547 he's head-butting me, 188 00:09:44,631 --> 00:09:46,506 he's really angry, really agitated. 189 00:09:46,589 --> 00:09:48,005 And then we found out 190 00:09:48,089 --> 00:09:50,673 that he's got a dual diagnosis. 191 00:09:50,756 --> 00:09:54,339 Couple that with the addiction-- it's a mental illness. 192 00:09:54,422 --> 00:09:57,339 So now you're dealing with a whole 'nother thing. 193 00:09:59,589 --> 00:10:03,005 - How ya doin', G? - Eh. 194 00:10:03,089 --> 00:10:05,255 Yeah, it's... 195 00:10:05,339 --> 00:10:08,422 - It's all over the place. - Yeah. 196 00:10:08,506 --> 00:10:10,881 All right, well, it's your thing, baby. 197 00:10:18,964 --> 00:10:20,673 Let's put a whole series together... 198 00:10:20,756 --> 00:10:23,506 Gianni: I've been diagnosed bipolar I and II, 199 00:10:23,589 --> 00:10:25,714 schizoaffective, schizophrenic. 200 00:10:25,798 --> 00:10:28,714 I don't know if my mental illness was caused from my drug use-- 201 00:10:28,798 --> 00:10:30,923 Is it chemically induced mental illness, 202 00:10:31,005 --> 00:10:32,881 or is actually something that's biological? 203 00:10:32,964 --> 00:10:34,381 Or something that onset later? 204 00:10:36,047 --> 00:10:37,964 They would diagnose me, 205 00:10:38,047 --> 00:10:39,964 and I'd do the meds for a little bit, 206 00:10:40,047 --> 00:10:42,214 then I'd take myself off 'em because I was just like, 207 00:10:42,297 --> 00:10:44,839 I'm an alcoholic and I'm an addict, 208 00:10:44,923 --> 00:10:46,297 and I like feeling high, 209 00:10:46,381 --> 00:10:49,631 and when I'm unmedicated and I go into mania, 210 00:10:49,714 --> 00:10:51,422 I feel high from that. 211 00:10:54,422 --> 00:10:56,005 I like feeling a little off, 212 00:10:56,089 --> 00:10:57,589 I like feeling a little weird, 213 00:10:57,673 --> 00:10:59,964 I like feeling a little askew 214 00:11:00,047 --> 00:11:03,214 and not totally bolted to the ground. 215 00:11:06,255 --> 00:11:08,130 Can you throw me one of those rags real quick? 216 00:11:08,214 --> 00:11:09,381 Like the big hand? 217 00:11:11,089 --> 00:11:13,631 It's a little too big for my taste, but-- 218 00:11:13,714 --> 00:11:15,422 Can you throw me one of those rags, please? 219 00:11:17,506 --> 00:11:19,631 Maybe it is too big of a hand. 220 00:11:21,798 --> 00:11:24,756 Wanna have a seat? Wanna sit down? 221 00:11:24,839 --> 00:11:26,589 G-Bo. 222 00:11:26,673 --> 00:11:28,297 Wanna sit down? 223 00:11:32,214 --> 00:11:35,506 I don't like it at all right now. 224 00:11:35,589 --> 00:11:38,339 There's no question in my mind you're gonna get there. 225 00:11:38,422 --> 00:11:40,547 No, I know, I'm not worried about getting there. 226 00:11:40,631 --> 00:11:44,589 You jumped in, the paint was still wet... 227 00:11:44,673 --> 00:11:47,047 - You know what I mean? - Looks like a big chicken. 228 00:11:47,130 --> 00:11:48,923 I don't see a chicken at all. 229 00:11:49,005 --> 00:11:51,005 I just see like a fuckin'... 230 00:11:51,089 --> 00:11:53,506 - A blob. - I don't see a blob, 231 00:11:53,589 --> 00:11:56,964 I just see a very exaggerated, grotesque... 232 00:11:57,047 --> 00:11:59,631 If I were you, one of the things I would do is, 233 00:11:59,714 --> 00:12:03,881 I would hit your canvas so there's kind of a little bit more white to it, 234 00:12:03,964 --> 00:12:07,339 and then as you go over it, the other things will pop out. 235 00:12:07,422 --> 00:12:09,047 - Yeah, I agree. - Right? 236 00:12:09,130 --> 00:12:10,506 So just hit it again. 237 00:12:14,214 --> 00:12:16,005 What are you doin'? Why don't you hit it with the roller? 238 00:12:16,089 --> 00:12:17,631 'Cause I don't like the roller. 239 00:12:17,714 --> 00:12:21,923 Ohh, Gianni, the paint's gonna take forever to dry. 240 00:12:22,964 --> 00:12:24,714 Ohh. 241 00:12:24,798 --> 00:12:27,923 He's not fuckin' listenin' to me. 242 00:12:30,130 --> 00:12:31,839 The way you're doing that, man, it's gonna take 243 00:12:31,923 --> 00:12:33,798 a long time to dry. 244 00:12:36,589 --> 00:12:39,172 These are lessons that I was supposed to learn 245 00:12:39,255 --> 00:12:41,589 about, like, backin' off, 246 00:12:41,673 --> 00:12:43,964 not micromanaging. 247 00:12:46,005 --> 00:12:47,297 Yeah, man, I would just hit that. 248 00:12:47,381 --> 00:12:48,881 Hit the edge too. 249 00:12:50,005 --> 00:12:51,339 Yeah, there you go, brother. 250 00:12:53,130 --> 00:12:54,839 Yeah, man, that's much better. 251 00:12:58,047 --> 00:13:01,172 Gianni: For me, being born into a human body 252 00:13:01,255 --> 00:13:04,255 on planet Earth didn't make sense to me. 253 00:13:04,339 --> 00:13:06,589 I'm like, what am I-- what is this? 254 00:13:06,673 --> 00:13:09,881 What's this night/day, love/hate, good/bad, 255 00:13:09,964 --> 00:13:12,464 all this polarity, all this separation? 256 00:13:12,547 --> 00:13:15,673 This doesn't make sense to my inherent nature and my inherent being 257 00:13:15,756 --> 00:13:19,589 of oneness and completeness and, like, a unified whole. 258 00:13:19,673 --> 00:13:22,631 I feel fractured and separated and alone and weird, 259 00:13:22,714 --> 00:13:26,798 and I've always been fascinated with the moment of death, 260 00:13:26,881 --> 00:13:30,506 and so I... 261 00:13:30,589 --> 00:13:33,130 wanted to meet death a couple times on my own sword. 262 00:13:33,214 --> 00:13:35,923 Maybe I'll just do a big horse on it. 263 00:13:41,255 --> 00:13:43,381 For me, I had... 264 00:13:43,464 --> 00:13:46,047 two attempts on my life, 265 00:13:46,130 --> 00:13:48,964 one was when I was younger, 266 00:13:49,047 --> 00:13:51,798 and then the last one was more intentional. 267 00:13:51,881 --> 00:13:53,673 Gonna wait for it to dry. 268 00:13:53,756 --> 00:13:56,464 I had an episode that I can only describe 269 00:13:56,547 --> 00:13:58,464 as losing the letters and the numbers. 270 00:13:58,547 --> 00:14:01,464 I couldn't articulate myself, and therefore, 271 00:14:01,547 --> 00:14:03,506 when I came out of the psychosis 272 00:14:03,589 --> 00:14:04,839 I couldn't relate to anyone. 273 00:14:04,923 --> 00:14:07,631 And I created this rig, 274 00:14:07,714 --> 00:14:10,673 and I was about to turn on the switch, 275 00:14:10,756 --> 00:14:12,422 and then there was a knock on my door, 276 00:14:12,506 --> 00:14:16,047 and my ex-girlfriend Sunshine knocked on-- opened the door 277 00:14:16,130 --> 00:14:19,506 and saved my life, called my dad. 278 00:14:19,589 --> 00:14:21,547 Jimmy: As he's telling you he's whatever, 279 00:14:21,631 --> 00:14:23,422 I have to respect what he's saying, 280 00:14:23,506 --> 00:14:24,839 'cause it's real for him. 281 00:14:24,923 --> 00:14:27,964 There was a point when he was either 282 00:14:28,047 --> 00:14:30,089 in the hospital or just getting out, 283 00:14:30,172 --> 00:14:32,631 I said, "You know something? I will talk to you, 284 00:14:32,714 --> 00:14:34,255 but I won't talk to your psychosis." 285 00:14:34,339 --> 00:14:37,756 So for him to tell you this story, 286 00:14:37,839 --> 00:14:39,964 and for me to listen to it, whatever, 287 00:14:40,047 --> 00:14:41,255 I have to remind myself 288 00:14:41,339 --> 00:14:43,005 they're very real for him. 289 00:14:43,089 --> 00:14:45,172 I don't relate to it, you know? 290 00:14:45,255 --> 00:14:46,839 I mean, I don't fuckin' relate to it, 291 00:14:46,923 --> 00:14:48,839 but it's real for him, so I gotta respect it. 292 00:14:48,923 --> 00:14:50,547 Yeah. Well. 293 00:14:50,631 --> 00:14:53,255 - A horse. - Yeah. 294 00:14:53,339 --> 00:14:54,923 ( both laugh ) 295 00:14:55,881 --> 00:14:57,255 Gianni: Yeah, 296 00:14:57,339 --> 00:15:00,255 today I want to live, like, uh, 297 00:15:00,339 --> 00:15:02,798 when I had those suicide attempts, 298 00:15:02,881 --> 00:15:04,714 I didn't feel like 299 00:15:04,798 --> 00:15:06,964 this life that I'm living today was possible 300 00:15:07,047 --> 00:15:09,839 or even on my radar, so more will be revealed 301 00:15:09,923 --> 00:15:12,130 if you stick around. 302 00:15:15,047 --> 00:15:17,214 Today, like, I like peace of mind. 303 00:15:17,297 --> 00:15:20,089 For the most part if someone asks me how I'm doing, 304 00:15:20,172 --> 00:15:22,964 it's like, not too high, not too low, 305 00:15:23,047 --> 00:15:25,673 not a lot going on upstairs, it's just quiet. 306 00:15:25,756 --> 00:15:28,422 This is the first time in my life I've felt like that, 307 00:15:28,506 --> 00:15:30,464 but it's two components: 308 00:15:30,547 --> 00:15:33,172 being sober and being med-compliant. 309 00:15:33,255 --> 00:15:35,923 You got so much friggin' paint on it. ( laughs ) 310 00:15:36,005 --> 00:15:38,422 You got a ton of paint on this, Gianni. 311 00:15:38,506 --> 00:15:40,422 - Yeah. - Ohh. 312 00:15:40,506 --> 00:15:42,172 Jimmy: I myself had a-- 313 00:15:42,255 --> 00:15:44,130 I don't want to call it a suicide attempt, 314 00:15:44,214 --> 00:15:45,881 but I ended up in a 72-hour hold in a psych unit 315 00:15:45,964 --> 00:15:50,297 back in whatever year, it was 1989, '90. 316 00:15:50,381 --> 00:15:53,255 Gianni's mom and I were going through 317 00:15:53,339 --> 00:15:56,923 a really hard time and we split up, 318 00:15:57,005 --> 00:15:59,089 and I don't want to get into details, 319 00:15:59,172 --> 00:16:01,422 but I never forget this friggin' guy 320 00:16:01,506 --> 00:16:04,089 sittin' across from me and saying, 321 00:16:04,172 --> 00:16:07,381 "You realize you're never gonna see your kids again, right?" 322 00:16:07,464 --> 00:16:09,589 And it was like, boom. 323 00:16:10,839 --> 00:16:12,839 Sound. Be ready. 324 00:16:12,923 --> 00:16:14,756 ( power tool whirs ) 325 00:16:14,839 --> 00:16:17,631 I'm from that generation of men 326 00:16:17,714 --> 00:16:18,964 where you didn't go to therapy. 327 00:16:19,047 --> 00:16:21,339 When you got into those places, 328 00:16:21,422 --> 00:16:23,172 you just friggin' toughed it out. 329 00:16:23,255 --> 00:16:25,589 But you know what? It doesn't always work that way. 330 00:16:25,673 --> 00:16:30,297 When you're in crisis, when you're in that state, 331 00:16:30,381 --> 00:16:32,881 you have to find a way to ask for help. 332 00:16:32,964 --> 00:16:35,923 You have to find a way to get yourself into 333 00:16:36,005 --> 00:16:38,297 a safe environment with professionals, 334 00:16:38,381 --> 00:16:41,756 and there's people out there that will help you 335 00:16:41,839 --> 00:16:44,047 take one foot in front of the other. 336 00:16:44,130 --> 00:16:45,255 Yeah, it takes a lot of courage. 337 00:16:45,339 --> 00:16:46,589 It takes guts. 338 00:16:46,673 --> 00:16:48,631 And on some level I have a lot of guilt, 339 00:16:48,714 --> 00:16:50,506 and I think sometimes my behavior 340 00:16:50,589 --> 00:16:53,297 in what I did at that time, 341 00:16:53,381 --> 00:16:54,714 when I hurt myself-- 342 00:16:54,798 --> 00:16:56,506 Gianni was like seven years old. 343 00:16:56,589 --> 00:16:59,589 I made mistakes, man, I did some things, 344 00:16:59,673 --> 00:17:01,631 and I can't take any of it back, 345 00:17:01,714 --> 00:17:03,839 but I realize, you know what, 346 00:17:03,923 --> 00:17:07,089 it's just part of what's happened in my life. 347 00:17:10,172 --> 00:17:13,839 Gianni: Oh, yeah, man, that looks good! 348 00:17:13,923 --> 00:17:15,839 That's dope. 349 00:17:15,923 --> 00:17:17,089 Fuck yeah. 350 00:17:17,172 --> 00:17:19,172 What do you think? G-Bo. 351 00:17:19,255 --> 00:17:20,631 Oh, yeah, dude. 352 00:17:23,422 --> 00:17:25,506 I like the way that hangs and shit. 353 00:17:25,589 --> 00:17:26,798 - You like that? - Yeah, man. 354 00:17:26,881 --> 00:17:28,381 Jimmy: Looks pretty good. 355 00:17:28,464 --> 00:17:32,673 I'm faced with a little bit of a decision. 356 00:17:33,964 --> 00:17:35,214 Revolver Head? 357 00:17:35,297 --> 00:17:37,631 Gianni: No Revolver Head, no. 358 00:17:37,714 --> 00:17:40,005 See how the Grotjahn looks. 359 00:17:42,631 --> 00:17:44,255 I love this fucking guy. 360 00:17:45,589 --> 00:17:46,964 I'm not sure if that's gonna work. 361 00:17:47,047 --> 00:17:48,756 - There's too much color. - Yeah. 362 00:17:50,005 --> 00:17:51,631 Ahh. 363 00:17:51,714 --> 00:17:53,422 I don't think that's gonna work. 364 00:17:53,506 --> 00:17:55,798 - I like the donut. - I like the donut too. 365 00:17:55,881 --> 00:18:00,589 Yeah, this is-- this is not gonna work like that. 366 00:18:03,422 --> 00:18:06,881 Gianni: For me, the mainstay has been this mantra I've had 367 00:18:06,964 --> 00:18:09,547 which is "Process is king." And I find that, like, 368 00:18:09,631 --> 00:18:11,255 in the moment of creating, 369 00:18:11,339 --> 00:18:13,214 no matter what your mental state is, 370 00:18:13,297 --> 00:18:15,964 there's some magical machination 371 00:18:16,047 --> 00:18:18,464 that happens in the moment of doing something. 372 00:18:18,547 --> 00:18:20,464 Whether you're hitting the keys on the piano, 373 00:18:20,547 --> 00:18:22,464 whether you're a dancer and you're in the moment of flight, 374 00:18:22,547 --> 00:18:24,756 whether you're hitting the canvas for the first time, 375 00:18:24,839 --> 00:18:26,923 and it's just that movement of the brush 376 00:18:27,005 --> 00:18:28,464 on the canvas. 377 00:18:28,547 --> 00:18:30,589 In that moment, that's where it is, 378 00:18:30,673 --> 00:18:31,964 that's where it's at. 379 00:18:33,506 --> 00:18:35,047 Is that a Christmas tree? 380 00:18:35,130 --> 00:18:38,381 These weird little trees I've been drawing lately... 381 00:18:38,464 --> 00:18:40,339 that bring me joy. 382 00:18:40,422 --> 00:18:42,923 Gianni: No matter what my state is, 383 00:18:43,005 --> 00:18:44,589 I can go to that and have that 384 00:18:44,673 --> 00:18:46,214 as my, like-- phtt!-- 385 00:18:46,297 --> 00:18:47,923 centered, boom, know what to do. 386 00:18:48,005 --> 00:18:49,881 That's the gratifying thing, 387 00:18:49,964 --> 00:18:51,422 that's why I do art. 388 00:18:51,506 --> 00:18:54,255 There's restraint and pause 389 00:18:54,339 --> 00:18:55,756 and peace now, 390 00:18:55,839 --> 00:18:57,839 where I can go to a work, 391 00:18:57,923 --> 00:18:59,506 work on it, 392 00:18:59,589 --> 00:19:02,047 feel that it's OK to stop there, 393 00:19:02,130 --> 00:19:04,547 just be like, "OK, we're good." 394 00:19:05,714 --> 00:19:07,214 ( sighs ) 395 00:19:10,214 --> 00:19:12,214 I kinda like where mine's at right now. 396 00:19:12,297 --> 00:19:14,297 You gonna leave it there? It's done? 397 00:19:14,381 --> 00:19:15,381 Kinda. Yeah. For now. 398 00:19:15,464 --> 00:19:17,381 Jimmy: What about the head? 399 00:19:17,464 --> 00:19:19,964 - I like it like that. - Really? 400 00:19:20,047 --> 00:19:21,798 I just like the silhouette of the head. 401 00:19:21,881 --> 00:19:24,172 I don't want to put eyes on it or anything. 402 00:19:24,255 --> 00:19:27,756 I got the good jawline on the horse head. 403 00:19:27,839 --> 00:19:31,964 Gianni: Last year around this time, like, I was scared, 404 00:19:32,047 --> 00:19:35,422 I thought I wouldn't be able to do art again, but you just do art. 405 00:19:35,506 --> 00:19:38,339 I did art about not being able to do art again. 406 00:19:38,422 --> 00:19:40,923 I did a piece of art 'cause I was frustrated 407 00:19:41,005 --> 00:19:43,673 'cause it didn't feel right, but I still did it. 408 00:19:43,756 --> 00:19:47,589 And now I kinda like the piece, looking at it a year later. 409 00:19:47,673 --> 00:19:49,798 But in the time, I was just so angry 410 00:19:49,881 --> 00:19:52,005 I just felt like, "This is foreign to me, 411 00:19:52,089 --> 00:19:54,255 I don't know what to do," but you persist, 412 00:19:54,339 --> 00:19:57,089 you continue to do your craft a little bit each day. 413 00:19:57,172 --> 00:19:59,589 And if you really love it, you're gonna be inherently consistent 414 00:19:59,673 --> 00:20:01,547 because you're gonna want to do it each day. 415 00:20:01,631 --> 00:20:03,714 And the results are gonna vary, 416 00:20:03,798 --> 00:20:06,756 but process is king-- stay in the process. 417 00:20:06,839 --> 00:20:08,255 Stay in the process. 418 00:20:08,339 --> 00:20:11,005 Both: Creativity doesn't know what time it is. 419 00:20:11,089 --> 00:20:13,047 That's why we want to sleep here. 420 00:20:13,130 --> 00:20:15,297 I get up in the middle of the night and work on a collage 421 00:20:15,381 --> 00:20:17,923 'cause creativity doesn't know what time it is. 422 00:20:41,798 --> 00:20:43,714 - ( both laugh ) - Go ahead, hit it. 423 00:20:43,798 --> 00:20:45,964 - I did. - No, hit it again if you want. 424 00:20:46,047 --> 00:20:49,005 I know you're dying to make a mark on it. Go ahead. 425 00:20:49,089 --> 00:20:51,589 Gianni: These are pretty singular, 426 00:20:51,673 --> 00:20:53,547 but he put on this "Sweet Dreams" last night... 427 00:20:53,631 --> 00:20:55,964 Because it was on the wall. 428 00:20:56,047 --> 00:20:57,464 and I was like, "That's awesome." 429 00:20:57,547 --> 00:20:59,089 Somebody in the crew was kind enough 430 00:20:59,172 --> 00:21:00,631 to put "Sweet Dreams" on the wall 431 00:21:00,714 --> 00:21:02,631 and I saw it and I said, "Put it in the piece." 432 00:21:02,714 --> 00:21:05,464 - It's the name of the horse. - We don't know who it is, 433 00:21:05,547 --> 00:21:07,506 but whoever it is, we love you. It works. 434 00:21:07,589 --> 00:21:10,214 And I made a little gold mark on his just now. 435 00:21:10,297 --> 00:21:11,714 He wants to, like, make marks, 436 00:21:11,798 --> 00:21:13,422 I don't have a problem with it. 437 00:21:13,506 --> 00:21:15,756 Like, we did this thing, the Grotjahn thing, 438 00:21:15,839 --> 00:21:17,589 and I said, "Just go hit it," 439 00:21:17,673 --> 00:21:20,506 and he just did this little friggin' whatever-it-is, 440 00:21:20,589 --> 00:21:21,631 and I think it's perfect. 441 00:21:21,714 --> 00:21:23,130 I think the collaboration, too, 442 00:21:23,214 --> 00:21:25,756 is, like, executing the tone of the room too, 443 00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:30,214 does this wall come together as a seamless whole? 444 00:21:47,381 --> 00:21:51,172 I, uh, caused a lot of wreckage 445 00:21:51,255 --> 00:21:52,631 and a lot of pain 446 00:21:52,714 --> 00:21:54,381 and a lot of chaos. 447 00:21:54,464 --> 00:21:58,214 And I'm still a work in progress, you know, 448 00:21:58,297 --> 00:22:00,130 I'm still really new to this. 449 00:22:00,214 --> 00:22:02,631 But a lot's changed over the course of the year 450 00:22:02,714 --> 00:22:04,631 because I put in some intense work 451 00:22:04,714 --> 00:22:07,089 and I've been trying to get-- get sober 452 00:22:07,172 --> 00:22:09,130 and get healthy for a long time. 453 00:22:09,214 --> 00:22:12,756 And my living amends to my dad 454 00:22:12,839 --> 00:22:14,964 is to grant him peace of mind. 455 00:22:15,047 --> 00:22:16,631 It's a lifetime of work, 456 00:22:16,714 --> 00:22:18,589 and it's something I get to practice-- 457 00:22:18,673 --> 00:22:22,130 I have the opportunity to practice each day. 458 00:22:24,089 --> 00:22:27,547 Jimmy: I had to, like, learn about patience, acceptance, 459 00:22:27,631 --> 00:22:29,756 those things that really test you. 460 00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:31,631 You say you love somebody, you say whatever, 461 00:22:31,714 --> 00:22:33,839 but until you're in that arena 462 00:22:33,923 --> 00:22:35,714 and you're wrestling with those beasts and stuff, 463 00:22:35,798 --> 00:22:38,172 that's where you find out where your character's at. 464 00:22:38,255 --> 00:22:39,923 You know, at the end of the day, 465 00:22:40,005 --> 00:22:41,589 he's someone that needs help, he's sick. 466 00:22:41,673 --> 00:22:43,464 I gotta figure out a way to have a relationship, 467 00:22:43,547 --> 00:22:45,047 but have a boundary, 468 00:22:45,130 --> 00:22:46,923 that I can protect myself and take care of myself 469 00:22:47,005 --> 00:22:49,714 and my wife and my family. 470 00:22:55,172 --> 00:22:58,464 You know, maybe part of the thing about doing this thing 471 00:22:58,547 --> 00:23:00,673 is that I'm hoping, when somebody sees this, 472 00:23:00,756 --> 00:23:03,381 is that yeah, there's a lot of pain, 473 00:23:03,464 --> 00:23:05,506 there's a lot of scars, there's a lot of wounding, 474 00:23:05,589 --> 00:23:08,005 but you know, there is healing and there is-- 475 00:23:08,089 --> 00:23:10,714 there's a light at the end of the tunnel. 476 00:23:10,798 --> 00:23:15,172 But you gotta do the work, you gotta do the time. 477 00:23:15,255 --> 00:23:18,714 When you told me the other day that you trusted me again... 478 00:23:18,798 --> 00:23:22,089 was huge... that was huge. 479 00:23:22,172 --> 00:23:24,714 - Yeah, but you had to earn it. - Yeah, I know. 480 00:23:24,798 --> 00:23:26,673 You had to earn it. 481 00:23:26,756 --> 00:23:28,255 And you have. 482 00:23:28,339 --> 00:23:32,631 You know, trust is a key component of any relationship. 483 00:23:32,714 --> 00:23:35,381 You don't have trust, man, you don't have honesty, 484 00:23:35,464 --> 00:23:38,214 you don't have the tenets, you don't have the foundation, 485 00:23:38,297 --> 00:23:39,964 you don't have anything. 486 00:23:40,047 --> 00:23:41,673 That's what I'm saying, you know, 487 00:23:41,756 --> 00:23:43,756 some of the stuff that went on between you and I, 488 00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:46,214 I just... it was hard shit. 489 00:23:46,297 --> 00:23:51,631 And... And I know that everything happens in life for a reason, 490 00:23:51,714 --> 00:23:55,464 but... there was a lot of pain there. 491 00:23:55,547 --> 00:23:59,631 But you know, trusting you is... 492 00:24:06,964 --> 00:24:09,714 - ( voice breaking ) Thank you. - You're welcome, Papa. 493 00:24:09,798 --> 00:24:11,798 No, really, fuckin' thanks. 494 00:24:11,881 --> 00:24:14,714 I'm not gonna fuckin' cry through the whole fuckin' thing. 495 00:24:14,798 --> 00:24:17,005 - ( laughs ) - Fuck. 496 00:24:17,089 --> 00:24:19,297 Seriously. Shit. 497 00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:23,881 ♪ I hope my body's a ghost ♪ 498 00:24:23,964 --> 00:24:28,047 ♪ I just want to lay around town ♪ 499 00:24:30,047 --> 00:24:32,464 ♪ I hope my body's a ghost ♪ 500 00:24:32,547 --> 00:24:36,547 ♪ I just want to lay around town ♪ 501 00:24:38,756 --> 00:24:42,589 ♪ Take cover when the city burns ♪ 502 00:24:42,673 --> 00:24:44,047 ♪ Lay low ♪ 503 00:24:47,047 --> 00:24:48,547 ♪ I love you, brother ♪ 504 00:24:48,631 --> 00:24:51,547 ♪ Will you shoot me when they say so? ♪ 505 00:24:56,047 --> 00:24:59,089 ♪ Take cover when the city burns ♪ 506 00:24:59,172 --> 00:25:01,089 ♪ Lay low ♪ 507 00:25:03,547 --> 00:25:05,047 ♪ I love you, brother ♪ 508 00:25:05,130 --> 00:25:08,089 ♪ Will you shoot me when they say so? ♪ 509 00:25:14,089 --> 00:25:16,631 ♪ I hope my body's a ghost ♪ 510 00:25:16,714 --> 00:25:20,089 ♪ I just want to lay around town ♪ 511 00:25:27,547 --> 00:25:30,506 MAN: (SINGING) ♪ I know the secret of it all ♪ 512 00:25:30,756 --> 00:25:32,464 ♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYS) ♪ 513 00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:33,923 ♪ Longing ♪ 514 00:25:35,089 --> 00:25:36,214 ♪ Waiting ♪ 515 00:25:37,381 --> 00:25:39,381 -♪ You're... ♪ -(SCREAMING) 516 00:25:39,964 --> 00:25:41,089 (SILENCE) 517 00:25:41,422 --> 00:25:44,756 For it is love and love alone, the rules for aye. 518 00:25:45,172 --> 00:25:47,130 ♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 519 00:25:49,673 --> 00:25:51,172 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 39138

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