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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,330 --> 00:00:03,330 Have you ever had to fire that one in a situation? 2 00:00:03,810 --> 00:00:09,430 Oh yeah, yeah. Somebody threw a tricycle through my front window in a 3 00:00:09,430 --> 00:00:10,870 confrontation with one of my kids. 4 00:00:11,450 --> 00:00:17,150 I went out there with this and I shot the car. By the time I got done walking 5 00:00:17,150 --> 00:00:19,650 back to the house, the SWAT team had me surrounded. 6 00:00:20,530 --> 00:00:21,770 And I went to jail. 7 00:00:22,230 --> 00:00:23,230 I went to jail. 8 00:00:25,450 --> 00:00:28,150 I was in the north side of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,340 An area afflicted by sky -high levels of gun violence. 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,280 Stop! Get in! 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,360 The past few years have seen a surge in homicides here. 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,720 The chance of this is our city can be heard as police try to block off. 13 00:00:45,700 --> 00:00:48,080 And a mounting distrust of the police. 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,960 Man, look, I'm going to tell you right now how I feel about the police. 15 00:00:51,420 --> 00:00:56,080 The police, that's how I feel about it. I was here to find out what was behind 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,080 the killing. 17 00:00:57,450 --> 00:01:01,270 And what hope there was for one of America's most desperate communities. 18 00:01:02,090 --> 00:01:05,050 This is not part of God's plan. 19 00:01:05,349 --> 00:01:09,270 God does not deal in death. God deals in life. 20 00:01:17,570 --> 00:01:21,190 I was 21 00:01:21,190 --> 00:01:25,190 with the police. 22 00:01:25,690 --> 00:01:29,010 in pursuit of a car full of suspected armed robbers. 23 00:01:33,870 --> 00:01:34,470 The 24 00:01:34,470 --> 00:01:41,130 pursuit 25 00:01:41,130 --> 00:01:42,510 had ended in a crash. 26 00:01:43,150 --> 00:01:45,470 Officers were attempting to control the scene. 27 00:01:48,330 --> 00:01:53,650 Is he okay? 28 00:01:54,270 --> 00:01:55,270 What happened to him? 29 00:01:55,410 --> 00:01:58,130 He was probably part of the car crash. They're in the car that fled. Yeah, he's 30 00:01:58,130 --> 00:02:01,430 injured, so we've got to get medical in here. So he got hurt in the car crash? 31 00:02:01,530 --> 00:02:04,590 Yeah, this red one here was taken in an armed robbery. Did he try to run? 32 00:02:04,990 --> 00:02:06,870 That was the car that was playing when they were on the radio. 33 00:02:07,990 --> 00:02:11,030 How would you gauge the mood around here right now? 34 00:02:11,250 --> 00:02:14,750 It felt quite tense. When we rolled up, it felt a little bit tense. 35 00:02:14,990 --> 00:02:16,830 Yeah, that's because all the police are here. 36 00:02:17,090 --> 00:02:21,210 We have individuals in handcuffs, and given the mood of late, they're not too 37 00:02:21,210 --> 00:02:22,210 happy about that. 38 00:02:22,510 --> 00:02:25,550 It felt like the police were slightly outnumbered for a moment. 39 00:02:27,250 --> 00:02:28,970 Yeah, I mean, initially, probably. 40 00:02:29,850 --> 00:02:32,450 But, you know, we don't have any control of the scene yet. It's still fresh. 41 00:02:32,810 --> 00:02:35,510 Now you can see we have tape up now. We have kind of control of the immediate 42 00:02:35,510 --> 00:02:38,630 area. When we first get here, none of this is up. Everyone's just right on top 43 00:02:38,630 --> 00:02:39,630 of you. 44 00:02:48,110 --> 00:02:50,930 These few square miles in the north of Milwaukee. 45 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,000 are among America's worst for violent crime. 46 00:02:54,740 --> 00:02:55,780 You hear them shooting out here? 47 00:02:58,020 --> 00:02:59,680 Yeah, I know. You guys are always chilling out here. 48 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,920 The rate of incarceration here is one of the nation's highest. 49 00:03:05,980 --> 00:03:07,000 Stop! Police! 50 00:03:07,660 --> 00:03:08,760 He's got a gun! He's got a gun! 51 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,020 Don't fucking move your arm! Don't fucking move your arm! He's still 52 00:03:13,020 --> 00:03:14,020 ahead. Go ahead. 53 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:16,860 Guns are pervasive. 54 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,940 You guys got IDs on you? Yeah. 55 00:03:20,190 --> 00:03:21,590 All right, I'm going to have you step out of the car real quick, and I'll 56 00:03:21,590 --> 00:03:24,030 explain why we're stopping you, okay? No guns anywhere, right? Do you have any 57 00:03:24,030 --> 00:03:24,749 guns anywhere? 58 00:03:24,750 --> 00:03:26,270 Okay, step out of the car. Keep your hands up for me, man. 59 00:03:28,370 --> 00:03:31,670 For police, it is not always friendly terrain. 60 00:03:32,110 --> 00:03:35,110 Did you hear the shot fired out here about an hour ago? No, nothing? 61 00:03:35,470 --> 00:03:36,470 I'm working inside. 62 00:03:36,830 --> 00:03:37,589 Nothing's happening? 63 00:03:37,590 --> 00:03:38,590 Hello. 64 00:03:39,210 --> 00:03:40,450 Oh, you're doing a documentary? 65 00:03:40,710 --> 00:03:44,090 Yeah, you know there's a lot of gun crime, and there are a lot of homicides 66 00:03:44,090 --> 00:03:45,090 for a city its size? 67 00:03:45,330 --> 00:03:46,670 Yeah, I heard a lot on the news. 68 00:03:46,910 --> 00:03:47,910 Yeah, what's that all about? 69 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:55,760 Honestly, I don't know. I guess the police, they fail to protect our 70 00:03:56,380 --> 00:03:57,520 That's what it's about. 71 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:03,300 That's why we wear our Black Lives Matter shirt, because we do matter. 72 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,360 They don't care how our neighborhood looks. 73 00:04:06,700 --> 00:04:10,920 But I think they're here now because they're trying to reduce the crime. 74 00:04:11,380 --> 00:04:12,540 I mean... 75 00:04:14,410 --> 00:04:17,050 think that's true. Well, yeah, ma 'am. Here's the thing. We got a report of a 76 00:04:17,050 --> 00:04:19,450 shooting over here. Do you know what happened? I don't think they're trying 77 00:04:19,450 --> 00:04:22,950 reduce the crime. I think they're trying to escalate the crime. 78 00:04:23,310 --> 00:04:24,450 Why would they do that? 79 00:04:24,730 --> 00:04:27,490 I don't know, baby. There go one right there. Ask him. 80 00:04:28,070 --> 00:04:29,230 Y 'all have a good day. 81 00:04:38,370 --> 00:04:41,650 Well, she said that I'm looking for cases involved in this shooting, so. 82 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,480 We haven't found any yet, but we should be able to find out eventually where 83 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:47,480 this happened. 84 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:48,439 What's happening? 85 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:53,000 We're a little vulnerable standing out here. 86 00:04:53,780 --> 00:04:57,360 Really? I do, yeah. Someone take a pot shot from over there, over there. 87 00:04:57,700 --> 00:04:58,780 Wouldn't surprise me. 88 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,160 So where are we going now? 89 00:05:03,740 --> 00:05:04,740 Got homicide. 90 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,620 Shooting 2525 North Hubbard Street. 91 00:05:12,060 --> 00:05:14,640 Car, six people in a van shot a man in the face. 92 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,460 Gunshot wound to the head. 93 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:19,440 PNB, which means pulseless, not breathing. 94 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,980 We've got a body on the street. We don't have any eyewitnesses yet. You know his 95 00:05:25,980 --> 00:05:29,080 name? Yeah, he had a picture ID in his pocket. 96 00:05:30,060 --> 00:05:33,180 Antonio Ewing is what's on his ID. How old? 97 00:05:33,980 --> 00:05:34,980 Born in 85. 98 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,380 Born in 85, so that would make him 31. 99 00:05:37,740 --> 00:05:40,140 Yes, sir. Do you have a description of a shooter? 100 00:05:40,700 --> 00:05:43,220 Nothing. We have nobody that's claiming they saw anything yet. 101 00:05:43,620 --> 00:05:45,360 We've got a couple people that heard gunshots. 102 00:05:46,140 --> 00:05:47,300 That's all I have to go on. 103 00:05:48,100 --> 00:05:52,040 What are the plausible scenarios in a case like this? 104 00:05:53,420 --> 00:05:54,620 One would be a robbery. 105 00:05:55,420 --> 00:05:58,160 Another would be some kind of a drug deal gone bad. 106 00:05:58,460 --> 00:05:59,840 Unfortunately, that's very common. 107 00:06:03,940 --> 00:06:08,780 Third is just some type of grudge. A lot of our homicides are... 108 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,660 because of things said or done on social media. 109 00:06:17,940 --> 00:06:22,460 Families get very emotional many times with this disorder, and they can get 110 00:06:22,460 --> 00:06:25,240 violent. That's why I'm keeping you here for now. 111 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,880 Having the body here is also a thing. 112 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,880 We need the body here for evidentiary reasons, but yet it'll come time where 113 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,640 just have to move the body to help with the tensions in the neighborhood. 114 00:06:48,510 --> 00:06:49,590 That's my cousin. 115 00:06:52,030 --> 00:06:54,650 It's my cousin, family, real blood family. 116 00:06:55,530 --> 00:06:59,190 Do you know anything about what happened to you? I don't know, but I know it's 117 00:06:59,190 --> 00:07:00,190 my family. 118 00:07:00,210 --> 00:07:04,590 And then everybody else is thinking it's just addiction down here. 119 00:07:05,230 --> 00:07:06,230 It's bad. 120 00:07:06,330 --> 00:07:07,730 I'm ready to leave Milwaukee. 121 00:07:08,090 --> 00:07:09,930 I'm ready to pack my stuff and go. 122 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,600 That's his mother. That's my auntie. That's the mother of the victim? 123 00:07:15,020 --> 00:07:16,020 Yes. 124 00:07:16,740 --> 00:07:21,280 And they won't let us go back over there and see him until the coroner come and 125 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,460 do whatever they got to do. 126 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,340 I don't know what happened. I was at home in the bed. 127 00:07:29,580 --> 00:07:33,740 My daughter -in -law came and woke me up and told me that Tony was dead. 128 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,100 You know, I don't know. I don't know what happened. 129 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:05,040 Milwaukee's homicide rate spiked unexpectedly two years ago for reasons 130 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,040 remain obscure. 131 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,280 Some blame new laws making it easier to carry a gun. 132 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:18,220 Like other Rust Belt cities, Milwaukee is plagued by unemployment, poor schools 133 00:08:18,220 --> 00:08:19,520 and rampant crime. 134 00:08:22,580 --> 00:08:26,820 By some measures, it is the most segregated place in America. 135 00:08:30,100 --> 00:08:34,059 Relations between police and the community had become even more fraught 136 00:08:34,059 --> 00:08:35,059 usual. 137 00:08:35,500 --> 00:08:40,700 Two weeks earlier, an officer had shot and killed 23 -year -old Seville Smith 138 00:08:40,700 --> 00:08:42,980 circumstances that were still disputed. 139 00:08:44,340 --> 00:08:47,760 Tensions boil over on the streets of Milwaukee Saturday night. 140 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,640 Two nights of unrest had followed. 141 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,220 A chaotic scene near Sherman and Hour as a gas station goes up in flames. 142 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,820 We're not supposed to do anything at all. We're just supposed to sit there 143 00:08:57,820 --> 00:08:58,729 take it. 144 00:08:58,730 --> 00:09:02,650 Man, enough is enough, man. The man in this video was Seville's brother, Sadan. 145 00:09:04,510 --> 00:09:08,970 I'd arranged to meet him at a shrine to Seville, close to where the shooting had 146 00:09:08,970 --> 00:09:09,809 taken place. 147 00:09:09,810 --> 00:09:10,850 Louie, you Sadan? 148 00:09:11,070 --> 00:09:12,770 Yeah. Louie, how you doing? I'm good. 149 00:09:13,930 --> 00:09:17,890 Tell me about what we've got here. Is this a T -shirt with Seville on it? This 150 00:09:17,890 --> 00:09:23,170 is one of the T -shirts with my little brother on it. Say, Rez, bro, we got you 151 00:09:23,170 --> 00:09:24,170 five ever. 152 00:09:24,350 --> 00:09:26,750 People come every day and put their own stuff on here. 153 00:09:26,950 --> 00:09:30,350 We both was named after cars. We always been close together. 154 00:09:30,730 --> 00:09:34,810 Named after cars? Yeah, Cadillacs. My name's Sudan, his name's Seville. We 155 00:09:34,810 --> 00:09:35,810 named after cars. 156 00:09:36,210 --> 00:09:38,010 What was the story? What happened to Seville? 157 00:09:38,290 --> 00:09:45,070 Basically, he was in a car that was perceived to be suspicious by the 158 00:09:45,250 --> 00:09:47,910 which was their reason for stopping the car. 159 00:09:48,110 --> 00:09:50,650 He allegedly got out the car and ran. 160 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,680 And the news said he allegedly pointed a gun. 161 00:09:56,780 --> 00:09:57,779 Pulled a gun? 162 00:09:57,780 --> 00:10:03,920 Yeah. But in the autopsy report, it shows he was shot in the back of his 163 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,080 fleeing. 164 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,520 And he was also shot under his armpit, meaning his arms was up. 165 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,640 Given the narrative you described, why do you think Seville wouldn't have 166 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:16,640 dropped the gun? 167 00:10:17,380 --> 00:10:20,240 Why did he run is the other question. In that situation? 168 00:10:21,819 --> 00:10:26,200 Being in situations where you hear what the police do to black men in the 169 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,700 community and carrying a gun and having one, the way he thought was fear. 170 00:10:30,980 --> 00:10:34,900 So if I'm fearing something, my first thing is to get away from that. 171 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,980 But now the police out here, as y 'all can see, they don't like me. 172 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:42,500 But this is how they come after we come. 173 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,140 They come like that. They profile the trees. They do that to cause 174 00:10:47,630 --> 00:10:49,710 You know what I mean? When they see me out here especially, you know what I 175 00:10:49,710 --> 00:10:52,470 mean? They want me to stop doing this. That's my brother. I ain't never going 176 00:10:52,470 --> 00:10:56,850 stop. The officer who shot and killed DeVille was himself African -American. 177 00:10:56,990 --> 00:11:01,790 Yeah. Now, you could argue that it suggests that maybe it wasn't at least a 178 00:11:01,790 --> 00:11:04,070 racist act. No. No, no, no, no, no. 179 00:11:04,950 --> 00:11:09,290 We don't turn it into what it's not. You feel me? At the end of the day, it's 180 00:11:09,290 --> 00:11:11,630 not a race war. You see them police right here right now? 181 00:11:12,170 --> 00:11:14,250 It's them against us. 182 00:11:14,690 --> 00:11:16,170 It's not a white on black. 183 00:11:16,540 --> 00:11:18,040 It's a blue on black. 184 00:11:18,500 --> 00:11:19,540 Are they not concerned? 185 00:11:19,820 --> 00:11:22,460 Because there's been a track record of civic unrest, right? 186 00:11:22,820 --> 00:11:25,360 There's been incidents and uprisings. 187 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,440 I think their concern is to de -escalate anything before it happens. 188 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,360 Listen, if these cameras wasn't here right now, if y 'all want to go duck off 189 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,740 y 'all cars and see how it really is, me and him right now, we can be standing 190 00:11:36,740 --> 00:11:40,160 here, not making no noises. We can be talking to each other. They will pull up 191 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,900 and tell us, keep our feet moving, we loitering. It was reported that... 192 00:11:44,270 --> 00:11:48,810 In the 24 hours leading up to Seville's death, right, there was something like 193 00:11:48,810 --> 00:11:53,410 five or six fatal shootings, right, five fatal shootings in that 24 -hour 194 00:11:53,410 --> 00:11:58,850 period, which says that there's this deeper situation to do with out -of 195 00:11:58,850 --> 00:11:59,850 -control homicide. 196 00:12:00,190 --> 00:12:01,630 in the African -American community. 197 00:12:02,010 --> 00:12:05,510 This is a state where there's a lot of trash that needs to be cleaned up in the 198 00:12:05,510 --> 00:12:06,489 first place. 199 00:12:06,490 --> 00:12:11,230 There was a war on drugs going on here since 2006, you know what I mean? And 200 00:12:11,230 --> 00:12:14,890 there's guns in it. And they're giving us the right to carry the guns without 201 00:12:14,890 --> 00:12:15,910 cleaning up the drugs. 202 00:12:16,230 --> 00:12:17,730 Do you both have guns? 203 00:12:17,950 --> 00:12:20,970 I have Smith & Wesson. Both my guns are Smith & Wesson. I have a 9mm and I have 204 00:12:20,970 --> 00:12:24,750 a .380. Those are handguns? Yeah, handguns. Man, you can get your hands on 205 00:12:24,750 --> 00:12:25,750 gun here. 206 00:12:25,790 --> 00:12:27,010 You've got the right to buy them. 207 00:12:27,550 --> 00:12:29,210 What have you got, Sudan? 208 00:12:31,410 --> 00:12:32,430 You're not going to say. 209 00:12:32,650 --> 00:12:34,330 I can't say what I know. 210 00:12:34,630 --> 00:12:36,790 Why can't you say? 211 00:12:37,030 --> 00:12:38,630 Because my mama took my guns. 212 00:12:39,370 --> 00:12:40,590 Your mama did? Yeah. 213 00:12:40,890 --> 00:12:43,990 Why did she take your guns? Because she found out what happened to my brother 214 00:12:43,990 --> 00:12:45,290 and she knows who I am. 215 00:13:03,690 --> 00:13:08,410 With police viewed with suspicion, many on the north side prefer to find their 216 00:13:08,410 --> 00:13:09,750 own solutions to crime. 217 00:13:10,090 --> 00:13:13,250 Hi, Shaunda. How are you doing? All right, all right. 218 00:13:13,490 --> 00:13:17,130 One is community activist Shaunda Payne. That's the hood shape. 219 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:22,990 Shaunda grew up in the Vice Lords gang, had a baby at 13 and committed murder at 220 00:13:22,990 --> 00:13:28,650 15, before turning her life around and founding Unity in the Community, an anti 221 00:13:28,650 --> 00:13:29,650 -violence group. 222 00:13:32,460 --> 00:13:36,940 She was now raising her children on one of the most lawless blocks in Milwaukee. 223 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,420 So what happened last night? 224 00:13:41,260 --> 00:13:46,200 Not sure. Just a lot of shooting, a lot of blood and people running and 225 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,200 screaming and hollering. 226 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:48,400 Was anyone killed? 227 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,560 No one killed, but definitely people injured. 228 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:57,680 The last week, we had a newborn baby, five -day -old baby come. 229 00:13:58,260 --> 00:14:01,840 And that's when the house, my house, got shot with the bullet and all that. 230 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,060 A lot of the rest of these houses right here had to kind of fall to the floor 231 00:14:06,060 --> 00:14:12,220 with the baby in my hands and then prepare my weapons and also secure my 232 00:14:12,220 --> 00:14:15,620 ones at the same time. It's sad that you have to do that. 233 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,680 It's sad, but it's kind of like what's going on. I can babysit, shoot a gun, 234 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:21,840 cook at the same damn time. 235 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,200 This is where I make more babies if we want them. 236 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,820 Because we live where we live, I kind of sleep on the ready. 237 00:14:32,190 --> 00:14:34,090 She's always right here next to my bed. 238 00:14:35,690 --> 00:14:40,390 What is that? It's a Mossberg. It's a 12 -gauge Mossberg. 239 00:14:43,650 --> 00:14:48,450 She's the one I trust in anything because this is what the police use. 240 00:14:48,670 --> 00:14:51,810 This goes normally in my bra. I just do like this. 241 00:14:52,630 --> 00:14:54,050 Nobody even knows I have it. 242 00:14:55,190 --> 00:14:58,650 And then when I'm in the bathtub, I take this one. 243 00:14:58,950 --> 00:15:00,550 I'm just going to point that that way. 244 00:15:00,750 --> 00:15:01,750 Oh, yeah. 245 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,500 All of them are on safety. All of them are. Yeah. I got too many kids. 246 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,580 But this is what I do when I'm in the bathtub. 247 00:15:08,860 --> 00:15:11,960 I lay it back here because I lay it right here. 248 00:15:12,540 --> 00:15:15,860 And I take a towel and I just do like that. I throw it over it. 249 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,940 And if my kids want to come in the bathroom, they don't see it. 250 00:15:19,300 --> 00:15:23,460 Around here, you definitely got to have several places where you are able to run 251 00:15:23,460 --> 00:15:25,220 and you're able to have shelter. 252 00:15:25,500 --> 00:15:26,880 And you keep them all loaded. 253 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,120 Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 254 00:15:32,459 --> 00:15:38,600 Always. Always. You never want to ever have something that is not 255 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,020 ready to go. 256 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:41,820 That's how you die. 257 00:15:42,140 --> 00:15:43,160 That's how you die. 258 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,960 Shaunda had fostered and raised more than 20 children. 259 00:15:50,500 --> 00:15:52,800 One was 16 -year -old Kyrie. 260 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:59,340 Do you feel that you're in a sort of at -risk situation with peers of yours? 261 00:15:59,930 --> 00:16:04,550 People your age who you know or you're aware of who are doing lawless stuff, 262 00:16:04,610 --> 00:16:05,610 running around with guns? 263 00:16:05,970 --> 00:16:09,350 I don't really worry about it because it's not me, you know? 264 00:16:09,890 --> 00:16:14,270 Like, it's not really surprising or shocking anymore to me. 265 00:16:15,650 --> 00:16:17,750 Oh, he has a gun. He's 15. 266 00:16:19,150 --> 00:16:24,210 For a lot of parents at home right now, when the kids get to be comparatively 267 00:16:24,210 --> 00:16:28,270 bigger than the mother, because there's almost always no father at home. 268 00:16:29,569 --> 00:16:36,210 What do you think somebody that's 5 '4", 187 pounds, compared to a 200 -pound 269 00:16:36,210 --> 00:16:41,370 6 '1", male is supposed to do with a child that is defying you? 270 00:16:41,950 --> 00:16:42,950 You tell me. 271 00:16:43,110 --> 00:16:46,070 He'll tell you what I had to do a couple weeks ago when he told me what he 272 00:16:46,070 --> 00:16:51,370 wasn't going to do. I took a skillet, and I took a knife, and I hit his ass 273 00:16:51,370 --> 00:16:55,970 right in the head. And I told him, now, do you feel you want to do what I said 274 00:16:55,970 --> 00:16:58,770 now? He's like, oh, shit, I think I get it. 275 00:16:58,970 --> 00:17:01,470 Did you feel that was reasonable? How did you feel about that? 276 00:17:01,710 --> 00:17:08,210 Not at the moment I didn't feel it was reasonable, but afterwards, I get it. 277 00:17:08,849 --> 00:17:12,109 I mean... Look how many of them dying out here. 278 00:17:13,109 --> 00:17:14,029 Every night. 279 00:17:14,030 --> 00:17:15,089 Look how many dying. 280 00:17:15,510 --> 00:17:19,109 She's doing something right because I ain't out there. 281 00:17:19,790 --> 00:17:20,790 Exactly. 282 00:17:21,109 --> 00:17:25,050 I'm not installing cars. I got my own car. You don't do drugs? 283 00:17:25,349 --> 00:17:26,349 I don't do drugs. 284 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:29,820 You know, you obviously have weapons for self -protection. Exactly. You said 285 00:17:29,820 --> 00:17:31,360 your children do. 286 00:17:31,620 --> 00:17:34,400 Oh, yeah. He know how to handle every single thing in this house. But he 287 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,299 have a weapon now. 288 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:36,300 No, he's 16. 289 00:17:36,380 --> 00:17:39,180 So when would he be, you know... 18. 290 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,800 Then he gets one? Oh, he has... I mean, 18, he can have his own. And he has 291 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,540 known since the age of 7 years old how to move with every single weapon. 292 00:17:48,140 --> 00:17:49,760 Automatic weapons. Tell my automatic weapons. 293 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,000 He knows how to load them. He knows how to un... 294 00:17:53,420 --> 00:17:56,440 He knows how to break them down. He knows every single thing. 295 00:17:59,340 --> 00:18:00,340 Fuck. 296 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,220 They so fucking disrespectful. 297 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,540 Why would you shoot at all these fucking people, man? 298 00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:10,600 That's the shit I'm talking about. 299 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,920 They don't give a fuck. They shoot and drive off. 300 00:18:14,700 --> 00:18:16,360 What if somebody fucking get hit? 301 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,120 That's the shit I'm talking about. 302 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:41,120 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness cannot overcome it. 303 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:49,940 We gather here to remember and to grieve for the death of 304 00:18:49,940 --> 00:18:50,940 Tonio. 305 00:18:51,700 --> 00:18:57,340 I was at a vigil for Antonio Ewing, the young man whose homicide scene I'd been 306 00:18:57,340 --> 00:18:59,340 at on my first night in Milwaukee. 307 00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:04,000 It doesn't take much to retaliate. 308 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,020 It doesn't take much to return evil for evil. 309 00:19:09,420 --> 00:19:15,740 Anybody can be a conqueror, but we are called to be more. 310 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:22,580 Because we know that the only thing violence brings is more violence. 311 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:27,080 The only thing that death brings is more death. 312 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:33,020 So let's not pretend that this was Tonio's time. 313 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,600 It was too early. 314 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:36,999 Tony O! 315 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,000 Did you hear that? 316 00:19:38,140 --> 00:19:42,660 Did you hear that? 317 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,240 Oh, man. 318 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,060 This is for you, Tony O. 319 00:19:46,540 --> 00:19:50,200 Wherever you at, this is for you. I know you've been here. I know you feel. 320 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,280 This is for you. 321 00:19:52,700 --> 00:19:55,660 It's a homecoming. It's not going away. 322 00:19:55,940 --> 00:19:57,020 It's a homecoming. 323 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,540 You have been reborn. 324 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,940 Donald, can I grab you for just a minute? How are you doing? I'm Louis. 325 00:20:04,380 --> 00:20:06,400 Louis, how you doing? Tony O, that's my stepson. 326 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,260 Okay? He's 30 -year -old. 327 00:20:08,700 --> 00:20:12,560 Young man. Young man. He worked with me. I'd get him a job. He worked with me. 328 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,520 And I looked out for him. He stayed with me. 329 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:16,880 Stayed with me and his mother. 330 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,220 He never bothered nobody. Never started nothing with nobody. 331 00:20:20,500 --> 00:20:23,220 You know, but he's just hanging out with the wrong crowd. 332 00:20:24,820 --> 00:20:25,880 He was harmless. 333 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:29,700 And somebody came out here and they killed my cousin. 334 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,640 These streets is vicious. 335 00:20:34,990 --> 00:20:39,530 I wondered if Antonio's life might help me understand what was behind the gun 336 00:20:39,530 --> 00:20:40,630 violence in Milwaukee. 337 00:20:41,890 --> 00:20:42,869 Hi, Karen. 338 00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:46,830 How are you? Donald asked me back to the house he shared with Antonio's mother, 339 00:20:46,990 --> 00:20:49,710 Karen. Right now, I don't know what I'm feeling. 340 00:20:50,530 --> 00:20:54,330 No. You know, he's always spaced out. 341 00:20:54,770 --> 00:21:01,590 And I really haven't kicked him yet. I feel he hasn't lost someone so close, 342 00:21:01,590 --> 00:21:02,590 son. 343 00:21:02,709 --> 00:21:03,710 This sounds tremendous. 344 00:21:03,910 --> 00:21:07,570 But it's crazy. 345 00:21:10,030 --> 00:21:12,950 And to tell you the truth, I just had some more bad news. 346 00:21:13,490 --> 00:21:15,130 What bad news did you just have? 347 00:21:17,370 --> 00:21:18,370 My niece. 348 00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:20,150 My friend just got killed. 349 00:21:21,070 --> 00:21:23,870 A niece of yours or a friend of yours? Yes, a niece of mine. 350 00:21:24,730 --> 00:21:25,669 How old? 351 00:21:25,670 --> 00:21:26,670 Young, young. 352 00:21:26,690 --> 00:21:28,270 My nieces, all of them young. 353 00:21:28,510 --> 00:21:29,710 All of them young. In Milwaukee? 354 00:21:30,700 --> 00:21:32,100 Yes, right here in Milwaukee. 355 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,020 Today? There's so much happening in Milwaukee. 356 00:21:35,340 --> 00:21:36,860 We're not talking about Chicago. 357 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,380 We're talking about Milwaukee. 358 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:45,760 But a lot of people come from Chicago up here to do... Dollars. 359 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:48,580 Let me talk. 360 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,520 Crime on crime. 361 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:57,600 You know what? We need to... No, serious. We need to stop this. No, 362 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,840 No. 363 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,600 Seriously. 364 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,140 Oh, Donald, Donald. 365 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:11,140 I don't even want to talk. I'm, you know, I'm already messed up in the head 366 00:22:11,140 --> 00:22:12,140 right now. 367 00:22:12,260 --> 00:22:15,080 Well, we all are. But, like I said. 368 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:23,540 This is 369 00:22:23,540 --> 00:22:24,540 Tony on Isabella. 370 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,020 This is her. 371 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,040 Yeah. 372 00:22:29,260 --> 00:22:31,640 There you go right there, when he was in school. 373 00:22:33,260 --> 00:22:35,880 Is Tonyo in the middle, standing up with the cap? 374 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,440 No, this is Tonyo. Oh, that's Tonyo on the left. 375 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,680 He was a rapper too, so, and he good. 376 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,680 He rapped under the name Blizz Montana? 377 00:22:45,020 --> 00:22:47,260 Yes. And that's Tonyo there. 378 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,140 It's his daughter right here, she look just like him. 379 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,360 May I ask about Tonyo's father, his dad? 380 00:22:56,180 --> 00:22:57,220 He's incarcerated. 381 00:22:58,810 --> 00:22:59,649 He's incarcerated. 382 00:22:59,650 --> 00:23:00,309 He's in jail. 383 00:23:00,310 --> 00:23:01,310 He's in prison. 384 00:23:01,970 --> 00:23:05,310 Yeah. Was the dad able to be a dad to Antonio? 385 00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:07,830 Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Yes, yes, yes. 386 00:23:08,030 --> 00:23:14,070 He wasn't locked up when Antonio... He was an asshole, but he was my... He did 387 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:15,490 for his kids, yeah. 388 00:23:17,650 --> 00:23:22,030 Outside on the porch, the conversation continued with Donald and two of 389 00:23:22,030 --> 00:23:24,870 Antonio's cousins, Trish and Lawanda. 390 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,900 How many children does Antonio have? 391 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:31,300 He has four children. Four children. Yes. How many mothers? 392 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,100 Four. Three. 393 00:23:34,260 --> 00:23:35,260 Four. Four. 394 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,540 Antonio has four children with four different women. 395 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,680 That's four fatherless children. 396 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,280 Absolutely. We're two days in now. 397 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,680 Do you know if they're making headway with the case? 398 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,900 Have they made progress in terms of finding the culprit? 399 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,560 We haven't heard nothing. We haven't heard a word yet. But the detective did 400 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,940 tell us what Antonio had on him when he died. 401 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,660 They did say he had some money, he had keys, he had a title to his car. 402 00:24:06,380 --> 00:24:09,400 That's all he had on him. No drugs, no nothing. 403 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,560 I'm hurt right now. My heart is, I don't know where it's going right now. 404 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,200 I don't know who done it. 405 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,320 I don't know why they done it. 406 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,800 But the police can find out, the authorities can find out, and then let 407 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:23,800 something. 408 00:24:24,260 --> 00:24:25,440 Let us know something. 409 00:24:46,410 --> 00:24:49,890 There had been another homicide on Milwaukee's north side. 410 00:24:51,790 --> 00:24:55,630 One of the side effects of the high rate of armed robberies and murders in 411 00:24:55,630 --> 00:24:59,790 Milwaukee is that there are also many killings that are legal and justified as 412 00:24:59,790 --> 00:25:00,790 self -defense. 413 00:25:01,610 --> 00:25:03,810 This showed signs of being one of them. 414 00:25:04,650 --> 00:25:05,650 You're the captain. 415 00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:09,030 Captain Boston Smith. I am, sir. 416 00:25:09,230 --> 00:25:10,270 Yes, nice to meet you. 417 00:25:10,690 --> 00:25:13,050 Do you have a picture of what happened yet? 418 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:19,220 Basically, two individuals came into the home, shots were exchanged, and the 419 00:25:19,220 --> 00:25:23,200 person that left the seat does not reside in the residence. 420 00:25:23,580 --> 00:25:26,040 Two individuals came in the home who didn't live there? 421 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:32,820 Correct. It's what I'm... Shots were exchanged between the two individuals 422 00:25:32,820 --> 00:25:34,880 persons at the house? 423 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,340 Correct. That's the information, the prelim information. 424 00:25:39,980 --> 00:25:42,020 So what is happening right now? 425 00:25:42,670 --> 00:25:47,150 We have some individuals that have come from our sensitive crimes unit, and 426 00:25:47,150 --> 00:25:52,490 they're conducting their individual interviews of possible witnesses who may 427 00:25:52,490 --> 00:25:57,390 have heard or seen something or who was in the house at that time. So many times 428 00:25:57,390 --> 00:26:02,090 they will take them from the house, and they will sit them in the car so that 429 00:26:02,090 --> 00:26:06,310 they can interview them alone without being heard. 430 00:26:06,650 --> 00:26:07,870 Are you getting good cooperation? 431 00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:10,590 From the individuals in the house? Mm -hmm. 432 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,940 At first we was not. Why not? 433 00:26:14,140 --> 00:26:18,260 This is an area that we kind of struggle with when it comes to the police. 434 00:26:18,580 --> 00:26:21,360 A lot of times they don't like to tell the police anything. 435 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:22,860 They don't trust us. 436 00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:28,960 There's a perception that if they cooperate with the inquiry, they are 437 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,840 snitching. They have a saying out here on the street that snitches get 438 00:26:36,820 --> 00:26:39,140 Five feet, eight inches east. 439 00:26:40,010 --> 00:26:41,790 2 feet 4 inches south. 440 00:26:42,670 --> 00:26:48,130 In charge of the scene was a 24 -year veteran of Milwaukee PD, Gus 441 00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:54,050 Having cleared the house, he and his team were gathering evidence, and he'd 442 00:26:54,050 --> 00:26:55,050 allowed me inside. 443 00:26:56,150 --> 00:26:58,910 You'll see a gunshot wound there. 444 00:26:59,710 --> 00:27:00,710 There's one in the neck. 445 00:27:01,630 --> 00:27:04,410 Okay, looks like they tried to put some pressure on the neck there. 446 00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:06,930 That's potentially ballistic damage. 447 00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:09,820 That's likely ballistic damage as well. 448 00:27:10,740 --> 00:27:14,600 This is a nickel story I've got so far, and it's from the man of the house. He's 449 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,840 a gentleman named A .C. 450 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:23,040 Crockett. He says to me that he was at the neighbor's residence, comes back, he 451 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:29,360 sees his son, Craig Crockett, on the front porch talking to a couple of 452 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:33,800 young men, and he doesn't know what the conversation is, but he shares with us 453 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,720 that his son does tattooing. 454 00:27:36,629 --> 00:27:40,990 In the house here, these may be customers or presumed customers, I don't 455 00:27:41,970 --> 00:27:47,650 AC goes upstairs to check on another son of his, and he hears gunshots going 456 00:27:47,650 --> 00:27:53,590 off. He comes downstairs to discover this guy laid out on the floor here, and 457 00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:55,630 his son injured. 458 00:27:56,090 --> 00:27:58,370 And then his son says, they tried to rob me. 459 00:27:59,210 --> 00:28:02,570 And he says, I'm shot, I've got to take myself to the hospital, which he does. 460 00:28:03,090 --> 00:28:04,790 Do we know anything about this guy? 461 00:28:05,180 --> 00:28:07,120 We believe he's Anthony Trice. 462 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:09,620 He was born on Christmas Day in 1993. 463 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:16,980 The co -actor with him fled on foot, but AC thinks he might have been hit as 464 00:28:16,980 --> 00:28:21,820 well. The other thing I noticed was the trajectory of the holes in the floor 465 00:28:21,820 --> 00:28:22,820 over here. 466 00:28:23,140 --> 00:28:26,020 They're relatively dramatic down. 467 00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:28,460 What does that tell us? 468 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,780 It tells us somebody stood over this guy. 469 00:28:34,090 --> 00:28:35,370 Started hitting him like that. 470 00:28:36,690 --> 00:28:42,350 It would be okay to fire enough rounds to stop the threat, but not to fire 471 00:28:42,350 --> 00:28:43,350 directly down? 472 00:28:43,450 --> 00:28:46,270 If the threat is over... You have to stop. 473 00:28:47,270 --> 00:28:50,210 Yeah, so there's more to this story. 474 00:28:51,910 --> 00:28:56,230 How confident are you of solving the case? 475 00:28:56,610 --> 00:28:57,610 I have no idea. 476 00:28:58,010 --> 00:28:59,150 I don't. 477 00:28:59,870 --> 00:29:03,490 What we know, I think I know who shot him. It's going to be Craig, right? 478 00:29:03,930 --> 00:29:06,990 I mean, his own dad is telling us that that's who shot this guy, right? 479 00:29:07,710 --> 00:29:11,570 What are the circumstances surrounding how Craig came about shooting him? 480 00:29:11,770 --> 00:29:15,990 I don't know for sure. I'm not sure I'm ever going to know the whole story, 481 00:29:16,210 --> 00:29:17,210 right? 482 00:29:19,730 --> 00:29:24,610 Whether Anthony Trice had been an armed robber and the killing justified for now 483 00:29:24,610 --> 00:29:25,990 remained an open question. 484 00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:30,050 But I was struck by the self -perpetuating nature of the violence. 485 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,100 crime leading to people arming themselves against crime. 486 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,120 Meanwhile, the accomplice of the suspected robber remained at large and, 487 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,320 probably, armed. 488 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,260 I'd been learning more about Antonio Ewing, the man murdered on my first 489 00:29:55,260 --> 00:29:57,040 in Milwaukee, whose family I'd met. 490 00:29:58,670 --> 00:30:01,790 He'd done two years in prison for dealing cocaine and heroin. 491 00:30:02,450 --> 00:30:05,110 But it was also said he'd been trying to change his life. 492 00:30:06,770 --> 00:30:10,530 He'd been about to release a CD under his rap name for Liz Montana. 493 00:30:19,030 --> 00:30:21,450 I'd arranged to meet a handful of his friends. 494 00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:23,430 They too were musicians. 495 00:30:24,220 --> 00:30:26,660 Are you from Milwaukee as well? Yeah, I'm from here, man. 496 00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:30,280 Do you have a sense of what's behind the violence here in Milwaukee? 497 00:30:32,380 --> 00:30:38,760 Man, it's the sense of hopelessness, you know, in the atmosphere. It's like it's 498 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,260 not a lot of jobs here, like half of the African -American. 499 00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:48,760 Men are locked up. Okay, you're a music producer, right? So you're not leading 500 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,960 the kind of the outlaw, the sort of thug lifestyle, correct? 501 00:30:52,780 --> 00:30:56,380 But do you feel you need to have a weapon to be safe? 502 00:30:57,180 --> 00:30:58,580 Yeah, I got one right now. 503 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,620 Really? Yeah, I got... Right here, right now? Right now, yeah. 504 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:04,880 Where? 505 00:31:04,940 --> 00:31:09,320 It's right over there. It's a nice little... Show it. It's a nice little, 506 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,480 know... Be careful with it. 507 00:31:11,020 --> 00:31:12,360 No, I know how to handle it. 508 00:31:12,620 --> 00:31:13,620 It's legal, though. 509 00:31:13,900 --> 00:31:14,960 That's legal. Legal. 510 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,840 What is that? All my weapons are legal. It's an AR -15. 511 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,380 Yeah, that's what we ride around with, man. 512 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:21,959 For real? 513 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,460 And we're not starting no trouble. 514 00:31:23,860 --> 00:31:26,840 We don't, you know, this is all for self -defense purposes. 515 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:32,280 You just went from being like a very plausible high -end music producer to 516 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,560 looking almost like a paramilitary guerrilla. 517 00:31:35,020 --> 00:31:37,680 Yeah. Which was a weird transformation. 518 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,340 I mean, you know, you got to have something if you're in Milwaukee, man. 519 00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:49,240 We'll be right here right now. Y 'all wouldn't have been right here. 520 00:31:49,740 --> 00:31:55,700 Even talking to him. If Blizzard had a gun, he'd still be with us right now. 521 00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:58,400 And he usually got the gun on him every day. 522 00:31:58,740 --> 00:32:01,860 Because then he would have shot the guy who tried to kill him. Well, who killed 523 00:32:01,860 --> 00:32:04,300 him. Or the guy would have thought twice about doing it. 524 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,280 He wouldn't even have did it. 525 00:32:06,540 --> 00:32:09,980 If I would have seen him approach Blizz, I would have told Blizz. Same thing 526 00:32:09,980 --> 00:32:12,900 happened to y 'all. Y 'all came on the block. You know what I'm saying? 527 00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:14,140 You would have said, don't leave. 528 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,220 Meaning, leave where? Leave my porch. 529 00:32:16,959 --> 00:32:18,720 So he stepped off your porch? 530 00:32:18,940 --> 00:32:22,480 Yeah, he stepped off my porch. He walked around the corner. He got shot twice in 531 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,620 the head and once in the chest. 532 00:32:24,740 --> 00:32:25,800 Do you know who did it? 533 00:32:26,220 --> 00:32:29,740 We don't know who did it. We don't know who did it. We don't know who did it. 534 00:32:29,740 --> 00:32:30,399 For real? 535 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,160 Yeah. Would you tell me if you knew? 536 00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:35,540 Probably not. 537 00:32:35,740 --> 00:32:37,340 Probably not. Probably not, to be honest. 538 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,920 Yeah. 539 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,120 You said Blizz used to hang on your porch quite a bit. So you got to know 540 00:32:44,430 --> 00:32:46,330 Well? I knew him very, very, very well. 541 00:32:46,530 --> 00:32:47,610 What was he like? 542 00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:48,990 He was quiet. 543 00:32:49,390 --> 00:32:55,550 Blizz was probably... The way he looked, he looked like a 544 00:32:55,550 --> 00:32:59,270 grimy person. You know, if a person was to just glance at him, he looks like 545 00:32:59,270 --> 00:33:03,590 he'll rob people. You know, but Blizz had a kindness heart. 546 00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:07,490 Yeah, you said grimy, right? Yeah. People thought he had a, I don't take 547 00:33:07,490 --> 00:33:09,190 the wrong way, but a slightly mean face. 548 00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:12,920 Yeah, that's what I meant, his features. He looked like he was out here on the 549 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,700 streets and he was, you know, doing this and that. He was nothing like that. But 550 00:33:16,700 --> 00:33:19,380 he had some convictions, though, didn't he? Yeah, he had some convictions. For 551 00:33:19,380 --> 00:33:20,380 dealing, I think? 552 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,920 Yeah, you know, but everybody don't deal for the same purpose. He probably was 553 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:31,640 dealing to try to feed his family. He had four kids by four baby mamas. Right. 554 00:33:32,020 --> 00:33:34,480 So he, I mean, he must have... 555 00:33:35,210 --> 00:33:40,310 Had a little bit of appeal to the ladies. He was about this big. 556 00:33:40,590 --> 00:33:41,670 A ladies' man. 557 00:33:42,050 --> 00:33:43,050 Ladies' man. 558 00:33:43,410 --> 00:33:44,410 Ladies' man. 559 00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:46,450 Four babies by four women. 560 00:33:46,690 --> 00:33:50,030 On the one hand, that's like someone who's got away with the ladies. On the 561 00:33:50,030 --> 00:33:53,570 other hand, you could say, well, he was having difficulty maintaining stable 562 00:33:53,570 --> 00:33:54,570 relationships. 563 00:33:55,159 --> 00:34:01,260 Yeah. He never really paid attention about his, no, he never had no female 564 00:34:01,260 --> 00:34:05,960 problems. He controlled all that. You know, he had four baby mamas, but he had 565 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,600 hold of all four of his baby mamas. 566 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,880 You know, he never spoke to us about his problems, you know, any of that. He 567 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,739 always kept his personal business to himself. 568 00:34:14,540 --> 00:34:18,480 You know, so that was just, I don't know. 569 00:34:18,699 --> 00:34:20,920 You know what I'm saying? That shit was just crazy. 570 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,639 I left not much clearer about the causes of Antonio's killing. 571 00:34:31,739 --> 00:34:36,420 It would have been tempting to see it as related to his drug dealing, but I'd 572 00:34:36,420 --> 00:34:41,420 also been told that more death came from petty arguments over almost any kind of 573 00:34:41,420 --> 00:34:48,340 issue, often fuelled by social media, and underlying it all a readiness to 574 00:34:48,340 --> 00:34:50,159 use guns to deal with conflict. 575 00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:54,760 What are you drinking? 576 00:34:55,310 --> 00:34:58,130 Have you got any? 577 00:34:59,470 --> 00:35:00,610 I'd like a little one. 578 00:35:01,630 --> 00:35:04,610 Looking for some answers. I was back with Shaunda. 579 00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:07,250 And it ain't no gunshots or nothing. We could chill. 580 00:35:08,190 --> 00:35:09,190 Cheers. 581 00:35:10,970 --> 00:35:15,790 How have you been doing? 582 00:35:16,830 --> 00:35:17,830 Up, down. 583 00:35:18,170 --> 00:35:20,470 Has it been quiet on your corner? 584 00:35:20,930 --> 00:35:24,290 Oh, hell no. This zip code here is just kind of the... 585 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,920 Mecca for a lot of shooting and violence. 586 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,280 Do you feel you've got an insight into what it is that makes someone shoot and 587 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,280 kill someone else? 588 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:45,600 In a way, but things are a tad bit different, you know, these 589 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:52,440 days. Then it was more gang -related, more turf, more, you know, survival. 590 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:55,520 Almost like a mafia type of thing. 591 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:01,520 Yeah, it was pretty much, you know, if that section had something you needed or 592 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,380 you wanted, I mean, that's what you did. You just, you fought for it, you 593 00:36:05,380 --> 00:36:11,280 battled for it. Whereas now, what is it now? It can be because, I mean, somebody 594 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,840 may have rear -ended somebody in a simple car accident. Somebody gets out, 595 00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:19,800 you hit my damn car, and like, okay, well, let's just pal, pal, pal. 596 00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:24,970 you know the guns come out you know in war which is pretty much what this shit 597 00:36:24,970 --> 00:36:30,930 has become is rules of engagement and those rules have kind of kind of been 598 00:36:30,930 --> 00:36:37,030 tossed out the door you know kind of like you know they it's no boundary what 599 00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:41,870 the issue do you think is it is it is it guns is it poverty is it values is it 600 00:36:41,870 --> 00:36:48,730 the values the morals the social injustices everybody's always 601 00:36:48,730 --> 00:36:51,380 worried about This is mine, mine, mine, mine, mine. 602 00:36:52,460 --> 00:36:57,000 And that shit is just, it has to stop. You have to start worrying about the 603 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,520 house next to you. You have to start worrying about your neighbor. Start 604 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,980 worrying about, you know, are they okay? Not just if you okay. 605 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,460 And the police, do you see them as a big part of the problem? 606 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,560 Not a big part of the problem, but they definitely not a fucking part of the 607 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,560 solution either. 608 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,020 Majority of them are worried about the wrong shit. 609 00:37:17,439 --> 00:37:22,280 everybody pretty much is a criminal until they strip you of all your 610 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,400 tear your car apart and everything. Oh, you're not. 611 00:37:24,620 --> 00:37:25,620 Sorry. 612 00:37:27,260 --> 00:37:28,260 Oh, 613 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,000 don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Do not fucking do 614 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,240 that. He started filming them. They were about to shoot his ass. 615 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:37,960 Oh, fuck. 616 00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:43,400 Well, that car is turning around. It's time to motherfucking move. Grab my shit 617 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,960 because these motherfuckers are going to start playing. 618 00:37:45,980 --> 00:37:48,220 I would suggest y 'all get to moving with me. Why? 619 00:37:49,380 --> 00:37:52,760 Because you can already tell that van that just left the corner of people that 620 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,640 were right there just stopped, you know what I'm saying? 621 00:37:56,020 --> 00:37:59,540 And they little move, and I think they're about to circle around. 622 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,840 And I'm going to sit next to the weapons of mass destruction because 623 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,880 motherfuckers are really finna get to playing. 624 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,078 Here we go. 625 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,940 2834 North 28th Street. One round. 626 00:38:26,220 --> 00:38:27,220 In the alley. 627 00:38:28,060 --> 00:38:31,320 I was back on patrol with the police in District 5. 628 00:38:31,660 --> 00:38:32,618 Hey, what's your name? 629 00:38:32,620 --> 00:38:34,340 Malik. Malik? Where do you stay at? 630 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,120 Williams. Be careful, Malik. All right. Yeah, be careful out here, all right? 631 00:38:39,220 --> 00:38:40,620 Was he getting gas or not? 632 00:38:40,940 --> 00:38:41,940 Obviously not. 633 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,040 What was he doing then? 634 00:38:43,180 --> 00:38:45,820 Well, that's a great question. 635 00:38:46,340 --> 00:38:49,420 I was beginning to understand the frustration of the community. 636 00:38:51,210 --> 00:38:55,110 They'd come to realize that on the north side, anyone who was black and male 637 00:38:55,110 --> 00:38:56,690 could be seen as a suspect. 638 00:38:58,390 --> 00:39:01,190 All three? Those two. They keep looking back. 639 00:39:01,410 --> 00:39:02,970 That's the third time one of them was back. 640 00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:08,250 These men turned out to be on their way home from catering jobs. 641 00:39:08,830 --> 00:39:10,830 What's the story? Were you on the bike? 642 00:39:11,210 --> 00:39:14,990 Yes, sir. We just were minding our business. We're going back to this place 643 00:39:14,990 --> 00:39:16,430 we just got pulled over. 644 00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:18,090 Have you been stopped before? 645 00:39:18,570 --> 00:39:19,328 Oh, yeah. 646 00:39:19,330 --> 00:39:20,330 For what? 647 00:39:21,020 --> 00:39:22,480 But exactly this reason. 648 00:39:23,340 --> 00:39:24,340 Which is? 649 00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:25,740 I fit the description. 650 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,800 It was clear how resentment might build. 651 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,360 You had pulled them over for? 652 00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:34,700 The tint. 653 00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:36,600 For the tint on the windows. It was too dark. 654 00:39:36,860 --> 00:39:37,960 What are you filming? 655 00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:39,300 I'm filming you. 656 00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:44,180 Why did you pick Milwaukee to come film for? Because for a city inside, it's got 657 00:39:44,180 --> 00:39:45,360 a high rate of homicide. 658 00:39:46,580 --> 00:39:48,700 They got a high rate of police officers killing. 659 00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:57,360 For police, the innocent and the guilty were not always easy to distinguish. 660 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,900 His walking right hand was real stiff. Yeah, it was real stiff. 661 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:24,320 The way he was walking was a tip -off. Yeah, his hand was completely still with 662 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,320 his other hand moving. 663 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,820 I'm never naive to think that we're going to stop gun violence. 664 00:40:30,780 --> 00:40:34,120 What we are doing is making a difference for a lot of the people that have to, 665 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,320 you know, wake up in these residential houses over on 4th and 5th Street. 666 00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:43,340 You've been in this district about... 20 years? Yeah. Working it? Yep. So you 667 00:40:43,340 --> 00:40:45,100 must have seen people growing up. 668 00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:50,580 I've seen a lot of people. Frequent flyers? Yes. I've arrested, you know, 669 00:40:50,580 --> 00:40:54,920 with all these guys, I've arrested people three times, you know, from age, 670 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,500 know, 15 to 18 to 26. 671 00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:02,860 We just had a guy that was killed yesterday in our district, and I knew 672 00:41:02,860 --> 00:41:06,340 personally because I had dealt with him. Does it affect you at all, you know, if 673 00:41:06,340 --> 00:41:09,300 someone you've seen around gets killed? 674 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,700 You know, not to sound cold or heartless, I just deal with so many 675 00:41:14,700 --> 00:41:19,500 if I cared about every single one that I dealt with, I think I would go crazy. 676 00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:42,370 Since being in Milwaukee, I still didn't feel I got close to those most involved 677 00:41:42,370 --> 00:41:47,270 with the street life, and so I was out in one of the most crime -prone areas of 678 00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:51,210 the North Side, this time with no community or police protection. 679 00:41:51,890 --> 00:41:55,470 I had a rendezvous with some corner boys. 680 00:41:55,830 --> 00:41:56,830 How are you doing, guys? 681 00:41:57,690 --> 00:41:58,690 All right? 682 00:41:59,370 --> 00:42:03,030 Louie, what's your name? My name's Kev. Kev, Louie. 683 00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:07,450 Louie, how are you doing? How's business? 684 00:42:10,810 --> 00:42:15,210 Like so many here, they were recently bereaved. We just came from a funeral 685 00:42:15,210 --> 00:42:17,390 yesterday. There was a funeral yesterday. 686 00:42:17,630 --> 00:42:21,770 What was the guy's name? Tall T. Tall T? Big bro, yeah. So that was my cousin, 687 00:42:21,870 --> 00:42:23,490 too. RIP my cousin, Tall T, man. 688 00:42:23,710 --> 00:42:25,590 Do they know who killed Tall T? No. 689 00:42:26,590 --> 00:42:28,870 I mean, are the police, have they got someone in custody? 690 00:42:29,110 --> 00:42:30,310 Shit, I don't think so. I don't know. 691 00:42:30,670 --> 00:42:31,670 But do you know? 692 00:42:32,070 --> 00:42:33,150 No, I don't know either. 693 00:42:33,690 --> 00:42:34,690 Do you have an idea? 694 00:42:34,830 --> 00:42:37,970 Are the streets talking? 695 00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:42,130 Yeah, they talking, but you know what I'm saying? We're going to keep that on 696 00:42:42,130 --> 00:42:45,570 the low because we don't want to be on the documentary. So you're conducting an 697 00:42:45,570 --> 00:42:48,510 investigation? Yeah, we're doing a street investigation. 698 00:42:49,250 --> 00:42:52,150 We don't want the police to get involved with this because they're going to try 699 00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:53,450 to lock people up and stuff. 700 00:42:53,830 --> 00:42:56,510 We're going to keep that in the street. Do you consider that you're in a gang 701 00:42:56,510 --> 00:42:57,510 together? Hell no! 702 00:42:57,950 --> 00:43:00,950 It's a brotherhood. It's a family. It's a family organization. 703 00:43:01,610 --> 00:43:05,110 We are felons, so we can't get a job. So all we know is to do what we're doing. 704 00:43:05,230 --> 00:43:09,070 You're all, literally all of you are felons? I am. I am. 705 00:43:09,530 --> 00:43:12,550 You are. What was your name, Kev? Are you Kev? No, I'm Kev. 706 00:43:12,830 --> 00:43:17,770 What are you a felon on? As a juvenile felon for two counts of armed robbery 707 00:43:17,770 --> 00:43:21,950 possession of a dangerous weapon by a child, and as an adult, all minor weed 708 00:43:21,950 --> 00:43:26,650 cases. I just did a year for 0 .5, one bag of weed. Tell me your papers right 709 00:43:26,650 --> 00:43:27,608 now. 710 00:43:27,609 --> 00:43:29,150 Who's on paper? Are you on paper? 711 00:43:29,470 --> 00:43:31,630 What was the case? 712 00:43:32,410 --> 00:43:33,750 A little pistol case. 713 00:43:34,410 --> 00:43:35,650 A little pistol case. 714 00:43:35,930 --> 00:43:39,690 Yeah, man, you know he had it on him. Was it a possession of having one when 715 00:43:39,690 --> 00:43:41,650 shouldn't have one type case? Yeah, and I threw it. 716 00:43:42,070 --> 00:43:44,210 And you threw it. Well, it wasn't my gun. I ain't throw shit. 717 00:43:44,490 --> 00:43:47,550 Somebody, I don't know who threw the damn gun. They put it on me. I said, 718 00:43:47,550 --> 00:43:48,328 the fuck? 719 00:43:48,330 --> 00:43:51,010 But I'm fighting the case, though. You know what I'm saying? It ain't mine. 720 00:43:51,790 --> 00:43:52,810 It wasn't my gun. 721 00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:54,130 It wasn't your gun? No. 722 00:43:54,970 --> 00:43:56,470 You didn't throw it? No. 723 00:43:57,380 --> 00:44:00,120 Even though it said they got me on camera and shit, they lied. 724 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,440 What would you say was stopping you from leading a kind of 9 -to -5 title? 725 00:44:05,860 --> 00:44:09,300 I'm just stuck in the streets, man. I like the street life. You do like it? I 726 00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:10,300 like the fast money. 727 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,120 Fast cars and shit like that. Big rings. 728 00:44:13,540 --> 00:44:14,540 American dreams. 729 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,560 Did you feel you had much in the way of positive role models growing up? 730 00:44:19,020 --> 00:44:20,020 No. 731 00:44:20,620 --> 00:44:24,540 Tupac, my role model. My brother's shit. I ain't got no daddy or nothing. 732 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,000 I just sit on the porch and shit. Just watch around. 733 00:44:28,220 --> 00:44:31,840 Where's your dad? I never seen my daddy. I never seen a picture. 734 00:44:32,580 --> 00:44:35,660 Fuck my daddy. Fuck that nigga. 735 00:44:36,340 --> 00:44:39,780 What did you just say? 736 00:44:40,299 --> 00:44:44,160 Fuck my pops, bro. Why? Fuck his daddy. That nigga don't, you know what I'm 737 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,160 saying? I don't know that nigga. 738 00:44:45,380 --> 00:44:49,720 That nigga was never here for a nigga like me, my nigga. I do this shit on my 739 00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:50,720 own, baby. 740 00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:51,980 Fuck that nigga. 741 00:44:53,420 --> 00:44:56,140 Shit, I don't know. 742 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,520 You know what I'm saying? That's how it is out here with niggas like me. He's my 743 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,160 daddy. My daddy right here. 744 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,580 Basically. You don't see nothing, right? He's not around anymore. 745 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:06,840 I'm a my daddy. 746 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,040 I'm a my daddy. I'm a my daddy too, man. I'm a my daddy. And that's fucking up 747 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,500 on a lot of black men because when you're a black man growing up in the 748 00:45:13,540 --> 00:45:16,880 you need a male. You need your father to show you what to do and what not to do 749 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,300 out here. And your mother can't teach you everything. 750 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,180 Your mother can't teach you how to be a man. What do you see yourself doing in 751 00:45:22,180 --> 00:45:22,919 10 years? 752 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,540 I'm going to be running a rap game in 10 years, hands down. 753 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,280 In 10 years, should I just really hope I be alive? I'm going to be running a rap 754 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,840 game. Hope I ain't in jail. Hoping I ain't just finished in a ten -year spin 755 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:32,840 shit in ten years. 756 00:45:33,460 --> 00:45:34,460 Oh, shit. 757 00:45:40,340 --> 00:45:43,660 The Corner Boys struck me as more lost than lawless. 758 00:45:44,460 --> 00:45:49,740 Victims of their absent fathers and of a street code of masculinity that set no 759 00:45:49,740 --> 00:45:51,200 store by raising children. 760 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,900 But also of a system of mass incarceration. 761 00:45:58,620 --> 00:46:03,400 often for non -violent crimes which had broken up families and blighted lives. 762 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,540 I'd had a call from Detective Petropolis. 763 00:46:19,020 --> 00:46:23,460 Craig Crockett, the man who'd killed an alleged home invader, was in custody at 764 00:46:23,460 --> 00:46:25,640 police headquarters and being questioned. 765 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,540 It had become clear that Crockett was not a felon and his gun had been legally 766 00:46:31,540 --> 00:46:32,540 owned. 767 00:46:34,940 --> 00:46:40,960 He basically 768 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:47,000 copped to shooting four or five bullets into a man's back. He's falling. 769 00:46:47,420 --> 00:46:51,600 Sort of either on the floor or falling towards the floor, right? 770 00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:53,220 Yeah, it's incredible. 771 00:46:53,820 --> 00:46:54,860 Good marksmanship. 772 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,420 Yeah, it would be, wouldn't it? You think that? 773 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,860 I don't think that's what happened entirely. 774 00:46:59,900 --> 00:47:02,240 Are you leaning one way or the other at this point? 775 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:08,140 My sense is that, based on what he's told us and what we found at the scene, 776 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:12,920 that more than likely the prosecutor's not going to prosecute him, even if it's 777 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,200 a matter of, did he go a little too far? 778 00:47:16,060 --> 00:47:20,080 What's too far when you're, according to Craig, protecting your family? 779 00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:23,340 Now, some of those that are burned up over there? 780 00:47:24,010 --> 00:47:28,370 Those are attempts to destroy evidence, right? So one of those vehicles up there 781 00:47:28,370 --> 00:47:30,630 was used in the commission of a homicide. 782 00:47:31,970 --> 00:47:36,750 At the city car lot, I asked Petropoulos for his thoughts on Milwaukee's gun 783 00:47:36,750 --> 00:47:37,750 crime. 784 00:47:37,850 --> 00:47:41,370 As my personal belief is that people have to have a sense that if they do 785 00:47:41,370 --> 00:47:44,710 something, there are going to be consequences. 786 00:47:45,770 --> 00:47:50,930 And I think sometimes if there isn't that sense, then... 787 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:58,140 then they feel free to do what they want. Is poverty a part of the equation? 788 00:47:59,780 --> 00:48:06,180 What about being poor drives one to kill a child? 789 00:48:09,540 --> 00:48:13,980 What is that? There's no rational reasoning to blame poverty. 790 00:48:15,180 --> 00:48:16,240 I don't see it. 791 00:48:16,660 --> 00:48:17,660 I don't get it. 792 00:48:18,260 --> 00:48:20,220 What about value? 793 00:48:22,220 --> 00:48:24,640 I think that's very much in play here. 794 00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:32,360 If you are of a sense that you have certain 795 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,880 rules that you live by, you generally aren't going to break them. 796 00:48:36,340 --> 00:48:42,480 Certainly we all have lapses and things, but if you don't have those strictures, 797 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,960 those rules in your life, then obviously it opens up all kinds of possibilities 798 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,840 of things that could hurt other people. 799 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,820 I think that's what it comes down to. 800 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:56,400 I think we have a very big problem with our values. 801 00:48:57,540 --> 00:49:02,560 But you're asking me, and I don't make decisions on a large scale, just me and 802 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,560 my family. 803 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:14,380 Whether the cause was a crisis of values or some larger failure of the system, 804 00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:18,820 the result had been the death of 22 -year -old Anthony Trice. 805 00:49:23,790 --> 00:49:29,530 and for Craig Crockett and his family, an unspeakable trauma, and a future 806 00:49:29,530 --> 00:49:32,190 living with the very real fear of reprisals. 807 00:49:35,410 --> 00:49:38,110 Meanwhile, police were looking for Trice's accomplice. 808 00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:42,250 His name was Caron Smith, also 22. 809 00:49:42,890 --> 00:49:45,950 He was said to be driving a black Chevy Avalanche. 810 00:49:48,130 --> 00:49:52,750 My last night with the police, and unbelievably, within minutes of coming 811 00:49:52,750 --> 00:49:54,900 shift, There was the sighting of the car. 812 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,900 There it is. The black avalanche. 813 00:49:58,860 --> 00:49:59,860 Holy. 814 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:01,280 The black avalanche. 815 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:08,180 Are you guys going to call? Where? 816 00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:11,700 Where is this? It's up there. It's up there on the house. Oh, yeah. 817 00:50:15,900 --> 00:50:16,900 Hey. 818 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,160 Hey. 819 00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:21,900 5465. 820 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:28,120 I'd arrived seconds after the pursued car had crashed into the side of a 821 00:50:33,020 --> 00:50:33,620 An 822 00:50:33,620 --> 00:50:40,960 injured 823 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,600 man was on the scene, and a dazed -looking woman, Caron Smith's passenger, 824 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,120 was later released without charge. 825 00:50:47,820 --> 00:50:51,500 You need to answer this question real truthfully. Other than you and him, was 826 00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:52,640 there anybody else in the vehicle? 827 00:50:52,940 --> 00:50:53,940 No, it wasn't. 828 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,720 My friend, that's not him. 829 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,620 Do you respond to Ashley a little bit? 830 00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:59,440 OK, OK. 831 00:51:00,300 --> 00:51:04,500 The injured man turned out to be an innocent driver of a separate car that 832 00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:05,500 been hit. 833 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,700 Caron Smith had fled on foot. 834 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,400 The driver has dreads, white T -shirt, black pants. Unknown where he is. 835 00:51:13,780 --> 00:51:14,780 Fuck! 836 00:51:15,150 --> 00:51:17,750 Well, then he can't have gotten far. He had to be fucked up too. 837 00:51:18,290 --> 00:51:22,730 All efforts were now focused on finding him. I doubt he made it far. 838 00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:24,270 He's the dog. 839 00:51:26,730 --> 00:51:27,770 Then word came. 840 00:51:28,690 --> 00:51:30,890 Ended up finding him, Sarge. Wonderful job. 841 00:51:31,310 --> 00:51:37,930 All right, let's get him up. He was hiding behind these bushes right here on 842 00:51:37,930 --> 00:51:38,930 ground. Oh, my God, amazing. 843 00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:41,330 Did he have a weapon on him? 844 00:51:42,090 --> 00:51:43,150 At the scene. 845 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,800 No, they haven't searched the vehicle or anything yet, preserved evidence and 846 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:47,800 stuff. 847 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,560 What do we conclude about this? 848 00:51:50,180 --> 00:51:51,860 I'm not too philosophical, really. 849 00:51:52,660 --> 00:51:54,780 As long as I get the bad guy, that's all that matters. 850 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,980 As Smith was stretched off, I caught up with Inspector of Police Stephen 851 00:52:03,980 --> 00:52:04,980 Basting. 852 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,480 Life is a video game for some. 853 00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:10,820 It's linked on the police and it's out of control driving. 854 00:52:11,450 --> 00:52:13,970 Often the result is what will happen. 855 00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:22,230 Nationwide, homicides are trending down as well as up in specific localities, 856 00:52:22,310 --> 00:52:27,190 right? So why do you think Milwaukee is bearing such a heavy load? 857 00:52:27,530 --> 00:52:29,530 The lack of quality education, jobs. 858 00:52:31,330 --> 00:52:32,670 Let's start with that. 859 00:52:33,530 --> 00:52:35,830 The idle hands of the devil's workshop. 860 00:52:36,030 --> 00:52:37,390 There's not enough for people to do. 861 00:52:37,810 --> 00:52:39,910 You don't see it changing any time soon? 862 00:52:40,570 --> 00:52:41,670 To be honest with you, I don't. 863 00:52:42,450 --> 00:52:46,630 The community, I don't think it's to that point where everybody has enough 864 00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:49,410 stands up to make long -term changes. 865 00:52:51,710 --> 00:52:55,430 I just, I see it from this level every night. 866 00:53:11,340 --> 00:53:15,100 I'd come to see the police as being in an almost impossible position. 867 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:21,460 Working in an area suffering from decades of neglect, they were lightning 868 00:53:21,460 --> 00:53:24,440 for failings far outside their ability to fix. 869 00:53:30,420 --> 00:53:35,080 Then, just days before I was due to leave Milwaukee, there came a bizarre 870 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,080 of news. 871 00:53:36,190 --> 00:53:41,150 A Milwaukee police officer now sits on the other side of the law, trading in a 872 00:53:41,150 --> 00:53:43,410 uniform for a jail suicide vest. 873 00:53:43,710 --> 00:53:48,090 The officer whose shooting of Seville Smith had sparked days of unrest had 874 00:53:48,090 --> 00:53:52,390 charged with two counts of sexual assault on men he'd allegedly drugged. 875 00:53:53,090 --> 00:53:57,590 It's extraordinarily disappointing and grave, and we're treating it as such. 876 00:53:59,330 --> 00:54:03,270 But with regard to the shooting of Seville, police still hadn't released 877 00:54:03,270 --> 00:54:06,290 footage. and there was no word on whether a case would be brought. 878 00:54:14,990 --> 00:54:20,490 As for Antonio Ewing, a .k .a. Blizz Montana, the young rapper, drug dealer 879 00:54:20,490 --> 00:54:24,490 father who'd been killed on my first night, the case had gone quiet, 880 00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:29,910 with my time in the north side nearly up. 881 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,560 I paid a visit to his cousin, Trish, and her son, TJ. 882 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,200 How are you doing? 883 00:54:37,060 --> 00:54:38,520 I'm okay. 884 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:45,080 We have kept in touch with the detective, and every time it's the same 885 00:54:45,420 --> 00:54:47,040 We don't have anybody yet. 886 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,940 There's no new information, but keep calling. 887 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,500 Do they even have a suspect? 888 00:54:51,740 --> 00:54:56,780 Is there someone they're trying to bring in, but they can't catch him? 889 00:54:57,260 --> 00:55:02,920 As far as I know, they don't have anyone that they're trying to bring in. 890 00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:09,720 It's been a lot of tips, a lot of phone calls to the police station, and a lot 891 00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:11,760 of things that we're seeing on social media. 892 00:55:12,460 --> 00:55:17,240 I think people know what they saw, but people are afraid to step forward, and I 893 00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:18,400 can't fault them for that. 894 00:55:19,300 --> 00:55:24,140 How optimistic are you that they will solve the murder? 895 00:55:25,260 --> 00:55:27,180 I'm not optimistic at all. 896 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,160 Not at all. 897 00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:32,420 I believe that they're going to let people retaliate. 898 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,200 They'd rather let it be handled in the streets. 899 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,960 And if someone ends up getting arrested out the deal, then great. 900 00:55:40,180 --> 00:55:47,180 But otherwise, Antonio being dead, in my opinion, is just another black man 901 00:55:47,180 --> 00:55:51,100 down. You know, it's black people killing black people or whatever. 902 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,320 Let them kill each other. You think that's the attitude? 903 00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:00,480 I do. I think there is a sense that our people have lost sight of the value of 904 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:07,060 life. Absolutely. And I think that permeates all different levels of 905 00:56:07,060 --> 00:56:10,860 and the community as well. And the community, absolutely. 906 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,680 Absolutely. I don't think people have a great deal of respect for life anymore. 907 00:56:22,250 --> 00:56:24,570 What do you remember about Antonio, TJ? 908 00:56:25,070 --> 00:56:26,290 I'm not crying. 909 00:56:27,410 --> 00:56:32,410 He's nice, he cares about me, and I will always love him. 910 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:55,660 My last night in Milwaukee and another vigil, this time for a cousin of 911 00:56:55,660 --> 00:56:56,660 Shaunders. 912 00:56:57,720 --> 00:57:00,440 Everybody here knows that this was not deserved. 913 00:57:01,140 --> 00:57:04,440 This is a woman that just had a baby. This is a woman that ain't out here in 914 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,200 these streets, ain't out here thugging, ain't out here doing none of that. You 915 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:12,540 already crossed the barriers of being a coward when you continue to hurt women, 916 00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:14,800 continue to hurt children out here. 917 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,970 I reflected on how many of those living and dying here have been set up. to 918 00:57:19,970 --> 00:57:20,970 fail. 919 00:57:21,710 --> 00:57:26,610 Born into an area of underperforming schools, few jobs, and out of control 920 00:57:26,610 --> 00:57:31,850 crime. Their killings over often trivial matters could scarcely be more 921 00:57:31,850 --> 00:57:32,850 senseless. 922 00:57:39,330 --> 00:57:46,150 But I'd also seen people, and 923 00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:49,190 especially mothers, fighting to break the cycle. 924 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:54,840 In a fractured community, attempting to rebuild hope. 925 00:57:58,420 --> 00:58:00,700 Everything's in the same what? Pond. 926 00:58:02,420 --> 00:58:04,780 Yep, all the animals in one pond. 927 00:58:05,700 --> 00:58:07,260 And the end. 76394

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