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(quirky music playing)
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John Wilson:
Hey, New York.
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If you're like me, you spend
a lot of time indoors.
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Most of your favorite things
can be found
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within the four walls
of your apartment.
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And some days,
you forget to leave at all.
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This is why it's important
to force yourself outside
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every once in a while to
get reacquainted with nature.
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But, when you finally
get out there,
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(clears throat)
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you may not know what to do
or how to enjoy yourself.
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Most of the time, your eyes
are focused on the ground,
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uh, whenever you walk around.
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But, once you start to look up,
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there's a whole other world
you didn't know about.
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There's danger,
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scandal,
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and suspense.
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Onlooker 1:
No, no, no, no, no.
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-(car horn honks)
-No...
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-(crowd gasps)
-Oh, my God!
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(applause, cheering)
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John: But most of the time
when people are looking up,
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they seem to be
fixated on birds.
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You never really
cared about birds.
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You're not even sure
what they do.
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But, there must be
something magic about them
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for so many people
to devote so much time
to looking at them.
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So, instead of spending
another afternoon
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staring into space,
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or feeling cooped up inside,
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stick with me
and I'll show you
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how to escape
your old routine
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and start, uh,
just watching birds.
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First thing
you're gonna wanna do
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is get a little guide
that h-has all the birds in it
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so you know
what you're looking at.
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This looks like a cardinal.
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That might be a hawk.
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And that's a pigeon.
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But most birds
are very far away
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and you can't really
see them very well.
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Seems like birders have
a lot of gear they use
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to see better with.
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So, go to a store that
specializes in stuff like this
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to pick something up
for yourself.
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What kind of stuff
do you got here
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for, for long-range
surveillance?
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You got binoculars.
If you're into hunting.
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Deer hunting, bear.
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-John: Okay, yeah.
Maybe some birds, too.
-Clerk: Birds also.
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We also have GPS trackers
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-uh, if you like to track
your-your spouse.
-John: Oh, okay.
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You can track your employee.
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John:
Can you track animals
with this?
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Clerk:
Uh, no, that would be
a different type of, uh, GPS.
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John:
Who are your biggest customers?
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Well, my biggest customers
are mostly women.
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Women sometimes are smart,
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and they know how to lie
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and do things
more than, um, men.
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Uh, men, I guess, sometimes
they're... easily get caught,
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because, sometimes,
they get too involved
with the other person,
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and they just forget about...
They just don't think straight.
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I think a woman thinks
a little bit more,
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uh, than getting caught
than a man.
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John:
Do you ever go bird watching?
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Bird watching. Mm...
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You know, clients ask me
to do a type of work,
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to, to do a surveillance,
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that's kind of like
bird watching,
but really not.
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It's really, uh, actually
watching people. (chuckles)
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That's what I do.
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-John: Yeah, me, too.
-Okay.
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John:
So, now that you have your
new binoculars, or whatever,
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you try to join
a bird watching group
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to get a better idea
of where to look.
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What's going on up there?
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-Birder 1:
Well, those are parrots.
-John: Oh, wow.
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(parrots squawking)
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-Look, there goes
the Cooper's hawk.
-Birder 2: Yeah.
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We do something on our walks
where we exaggerate and go,
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"Wow! Look at that!"
And I don't know,
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but, just when I said
that right now, I felt,
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"Oh, wonder if
something's happening."
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And that's one thing
we can do during bird walks
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is if we don't happen
to see much,
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just go ahead
and go "wow" anyway,
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and train yourself to be amazed
at what's here right now.
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John (flatly):
Wow.
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Birder 1: Those are
the English house sparrows.
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-John: I don't see it.
-Oh, look at there!
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-Those are black-headed gulls.
-John: Where is it?
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There's the Cooper's hawk again.
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John:
I don't see it. You see it?
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Yeah, yeah, I've got him.
That's why, why I'm not moving.
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-John: Wow.
-Birder 2: Oh, my gosh!
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Birder 1:
This is a merlin!
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John:
A merlin? How can you tell?
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They wrote everything down
that they saw,
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but you're not sure what they
do with that information.
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(birder speaking)
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John: A life list?
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John:
How do you know, like, uh,
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like, if someone
is telling the truth
that they've seen a bird?
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(birder speaking)
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And, it's, it's
the honor system. Right.
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-John: Really?
-Mm-hmm.
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John:
It seems like the world
of birdwatchers
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is a trustworthy community.
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If you say that
you saw something,
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other birders
will just believe you.
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Yeah, I saw like a Blue Jay,
I think.
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Well, this would be
the time of year to see 'em
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-'cause they're
migrating through.
-(birds squawking)
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John:
You like to be naturally
trusting of people
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but as you kept talking
to other birders,
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you met someone who
actually knew about a scandal
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that violated the birders'
sacred code of ethics.
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Swallowgate is a story
of a young,
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up-and-coming, enthusiastic,
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and well-liked birder,
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who found the very first
violet-green swallow
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in his state,
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and he became a birding hero.
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Other birders
were pretty suspicious
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of some of his reports,
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which led to a multi-month
investigation deep-dive
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into his original
violet-green swallow report.
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And it was found
to have been, uh, not legit.
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John:
Did he think that no one
would just notice
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or care to investigate?
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I think so. I think he thought
he was too clever.
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-John: Mm.
-Ultimately.
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John:
You were troubled that
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some people
lie about seeing birds,
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but New York is filled
with dubious claims.
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Businesses try
to make themselves
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seem better than they are
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by using clever language.
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You can understand why
they would stretch the truth
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to get a competitive edge,
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but birding seems
like something
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you only really
do for yourself,
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and it's unclear why someone
would make something up
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they saw in the sky.
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In 1975, I was working
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with a crew of
six other men in the forest.
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We encountered
a large glowing object.
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One of the men yelled out,
"It's a flying saucer!"
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I mean, it was,
it was not some vague,
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uh, glowing cloud
or something.
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I was practically under it,
looking up at it, uh,
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when I was knocked unconscious.
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John:
And then what happened?
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I woke up on board the craft
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in a great deal of pain.
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I saw these beings
standing over me
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and I just flipped out
and lashed out at 'em
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and, and fought,
fought 'em off.
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John:
Why did people think
that you made this up?
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Well, people were,
uh, very reluctant to believe
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that such a thing
could happen.
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And, uh, so, naturally,
the immediate, um...
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thing was to assume
that there was...
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Hell, they come up with any
sort of excuse they could
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not to believe it, you know?
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"These guys must be
hallucinating on drugs."
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-But, seven people don't have
identical hallucinations.
-John: Hm.
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So, they had taken
lie detector tests
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from the state police
and passed.
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John: Seems like even
if your story is farfetched,
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taking a lie detector test
is solid proof
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that you're telling the truth
about what you saw out there.
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-UFO Witness: This is the total?
-John: How much do we owe you?
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UFO Witness:
It's 1,500.
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-John: Oh, okay. Um...
-So, this is 500 plus...
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-20... 30...
-John: Okay. We have,
we have the rest in the car.
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-I think I got, I think I got
the wrong envelope.
-40.
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John: So, you go to
a polygraph specialist
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to make sure your story
is convincing.
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A polygraph is
a psychophysiological technique.
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It's, uh, it's an aid
to an interrogation
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or an investigative interview.
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-Alright, just try to relax.
-John: Okay.
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Specialist:
Test's about to begin.
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Did you ever see a bald eagle?
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-John: Yes.
-Mm. Passed that one.
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Have you ever seen an egret?
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John:
Yes.
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-Telling the truth.
-John: Mm.
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Did you ever see a raven?
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John:
Yes.
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-Okay. Passed that.
-John: Really?
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Have you ever stolen anything
from a store?
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John:
Yes.
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Have you ever lied
to someone on your show?
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-John: No.
-That's a lie.
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Are you a competitive
human being?
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-John: No.
-That's a lie.
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Have you ever lied
about seeing something
that you didn't see?
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-John: No.
-That's a lie.
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John:
Do people drink a lot of
water when they're lying?
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Yes. Uh,
the reason being is that, uh,
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you often get a dry throat
when you, when you lie.
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Did you ever betray
someone you love?
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-No.
-John: That's a lie.
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John:
Fuck.
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Truth is most important thing,
always, man.
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More, more important than
anything else is the truth.
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It's the only way we can...
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we can all work out things
in this world.
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John:
Maybe you're not as honest
as you thought you were.
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♪ ♪
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Whenever you shoot stuff
for the show,
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you take a lot of pride
in the fact that it's real,
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and that people always believe
what they're seeing.
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But, sometimes
when you go out,
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you don't see
anything good at all
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and your hunger for rare images
only grows stronger.
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When you were making
the first season of the show,
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someone showed you a video,
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uh, that they took
of a bathroom
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-overflowing with sewage.
This is the video.
-Onlooker: No! No! No!
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-(splashing)
-(screaming)
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John:
You were so jealous that
they had the good fortune
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to witness it,
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and you couldn't
bear the thought
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that this image wasn't yours.
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Then you remembered
that you needed to have
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at least one day on a stage
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in order to get
a tax credit for the show.
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So you rented a studio
and had them rebuild
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the whole bathroom
from scratch.
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Then, you hired
pyrotechnics people
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to create a volcanic
eruption of fake poo
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to imitate the initial video
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and made them all sign NDAs.
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It eventually made it
into an episode later.
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You thought that people would
be really excited about it,
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but after it aired,
the only response
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was people asking you if
it was actually real.
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You kept telling them
that it was even though
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you knew in your heart
that it was a fabrication.
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(vacuum whirring)
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John:
People also started to ask you
if you actually bought
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the building from your landlord
in that, that one episode,
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which was a ridiculous
question to you.
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♪ ♪
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And then when you went on
"Late Night,"
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the host asked you
if something else
in your show was real,
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which made you
feel like people
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just don't trust you anymore.
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Okay, the guy you meet
in the, in the supermarket.
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-Yeah.
-Was he just in the supermarket?
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-Yeah. I mean, he was
in the Stop & Shop.
-(Jimmy Kimmel laughs)
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-And I had no idea about
the Mandela Effect Conference.
-(audience laughter)
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John:
Maybe birding
is the wrong hobby
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if everyone thinks
you're dishonest.
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And even if you do see
a rare bird,
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nobody will believe
what you saw anyway,
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because they're all just
waiting for you to trip up
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and make a mistake.
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-Get outta here!
-(seagulls cawing)
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John:
Hey!
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Maybe the only place
you belong
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is somewhere
with other people like you.
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It could be that you're making
the wrong kind of movies,
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and maybe it'll be good
to make a documentary
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that's backed up with a lot
of historical evidence
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that no one
can disagree with.
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Supposedly, the theory is
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that they used less than
high-quality rivets
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-on the hull.
-John: Of what?
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-The "Titanic."
-John: Okay.
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So, so that when
it hit the iceberg,
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it just had like
a zipper effect,
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-and that's why it went down.
-John: Oh, okay.
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Seems like people
are still really interested
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in the "Titanic" these days.
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So, you hired a camera crew
and found an expert
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to get you started
on your new project.
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-Sound Mixer: Sound speeds.
-John: Hold it there.
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Assistant Camera:
Scene 71, take one.
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(majestic music playing)
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The "Titanic" was the most
opulent ship ever built,
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and it was supposed
to be unsinkable.
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Well, it turned out
that it wasn't unsinkable.
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As a matter of fact,
on its maiden voyage,
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it hit an iceberg,
and it went down
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in two hours and 40 minutes.
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-(music stops)
-John: Um...
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-Okay, great.
-Well, the wealthiest person
on the ship
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was John Jacob Astor.
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John:
Okay. Wait, can you look
at that camera?
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-(music resumes)
-First were pretty much
wealthy people.
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-(music stops)
-Second class was kind of
a professional class.
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John:
You could just... Wait,
can you look at that camera?
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-(music resumes)
-There were, there were,
um, uh, uh, clergymen.
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There were, uh, professors.
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-Could we stop a minute?
-John: Oh, sure, sure.
Yeah, go ahead.
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You want some water
or something?
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-(car honks outside)
-(indistinct chatter)
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The two sister ships
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were the "Titanic"
and the "Olympic."
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And this one that looks
very much like the "Titanic"
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happens to be the "Olympic."
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John:
Wait, sorry.
That's not the "Titanic"?
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Expert:
No. This is the "Olympic".
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But it was the "Titanic"
that went down.
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John:
Wait, there are people that
think the "Titanic" didn't sink?
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There was fake news
right from the beginning.
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The theory that the "Titanic"
did not go down
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because it was "unsinkable,"
that the ship that went down
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was its sister ship,
the "Olympic."
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But it, it...
that's what it is.
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It is fake news,
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and it had to do with people
collecting, um, insurance money.
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-And by the way, they did
collect insurance money.
-John: Hm.
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You were surprised that there
were conspiracy theories
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about the "Titanic"
that you had never heard about.
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And when you start to dig
into the archives,
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it turned out there was
a $5 million insurance policy,
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uh, that was paid out
after it crashed.
325
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But it was hard to find
more information
about the "Olympic"
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in the midst of all
the other news, uh, of the day.
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Big news.
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You go on the message boards
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to see what
other people think,
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but no one wanted
to engage with you.
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♪ ♪
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And at one point, you notice
that there was a white van
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that was parked outside
of your apartment
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that was there
for a few days.
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You eventually found an obscure
book that talked in detail
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about an "Olympic"
conspiracy theory.
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It felt like you were
on to something.
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So you contacted the author,
this guy named Bruce Beveridge.
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He agreed to talk as long
as you drove to meet him
340
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close to his home, uh,
all the way in Tennessee.
341
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The switch theory goes that
the "Olympic" was involved
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in a very serious accident,
343
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and her keel was
permanently damaged
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in September of 1911.
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So the damaged ship was actually
brought out into the open ocean
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as the "Titanic,"
and sunk on purpose.
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The idea was to cash in
on an insurance policy
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and to scuttle the ship.
Unfortunately,
349
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-the plan went wrong.
-John: Mm.
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Is there anything else
that's inaccurate
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that people don't know about?
352
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You know,
in the James Cameron
movie at the end,
353
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you see Rose floating
on a piece of lounge panel,
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and she's holding
onto Jack's hand,
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and she's rescued by one boat,
you know,
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that was commanded
by, by Officer Lowe.
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I said,
you know that's fictitious
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in the fact that there was
a 16-year-old girl
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floating out there,
but the piece of wood floating
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-with a passenger on it,
that was true.
-John: Hm.
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That was factual, but it wasn't
a 16-year-old girl.
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-It was a Chinese man.
-(dramatic sting)
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John:
He also told you about
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a life-size
replica of the "Titanic"
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that also had a museum
inside of it,
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and he absolutely insisted
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that he drive you over there.
In your car.
368
00:17:03,709 --> 00:17:07,075
Bruce Beveridge:
I'm now a maintenance man
which... at a, at a hotel.
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And I do that by choice.
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Because, being
an ex-police officer,
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I should be doing security work
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or being the head of a security
at some college somewhere.
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John:
So, is this, like, based off
the "Olympic" or "Titanic"?
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-Oh, no. This is "Titanic."
-John: Oh, okay.
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But the difference, you know,
you can tell
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because it's got
the enclosed A-deck promenade.
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There was a time where I was
gonna move down here
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because I was going
through a divorce,
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and I got a hold of the own...
one of... the curator, Paul.
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I said, "Paul, I'm thinking
about moving
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to, uh, Sevierville
or Pigeon Forge."
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I go, "If I come down here,
can I get a job at the museum?"
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And he told me no. (laughs)
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-They wouldn't hire me here.
I don't know.
-John: Oh, geez.
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-How's it going?
-Good morning.
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It's a reproduction
of the grand staircase.
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You know,
they actually used oak.
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-John: This is a very
romantic scene here.
-It is, from the movie.
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John:
What does Anne Frank
got to do with this?
390
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-Bruce: Nothing.
-John: Oh, okay.
391
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There was damning evidence
everywhere you look.
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But, all the employees
still seem to be in denial.
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Have you heard about the theory
that, like, the "Olympic"
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and the "Titanic" might
have been switched at one point?
395
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As far as I know,
396
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-there's no factual proof
to that conspiracy theory.
-John: Oh.
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And after the tour,
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you went down
to the souvenir shop.
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I said, look at the money
that's being made
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off of this,
off of a tragedy.
401
00:18:26,976 --> 00:18:28,976
-John: Right. Yeah.
-Bruce: A lot of profit.
But, you know,
402
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is, is it tasteless?
403
00:18:32,109 --> 00:18:34,409
I know it's been 110 years.
404
00:18:34,509 --> 00:18:35,576
John:
Right.
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You went back to the hotel
after the museum to relax,
406
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and when you
opened your laptop,
407
00:18:42,676 --> 00:18:47,043
you got a cryptic email
from an anonymous sender
408
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which made you feel like you
were still on to something.
409
00:18:52,276 --> 00:18:53,443
The next morning,
410
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Bruce said that he had
some more to show you.
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So you spent
the afternoon with him.
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-Bruce: Cher?
-John: No, that's Katy Perry.
413
00:19:01,809 --> 00:19:03,876
-Bruce: Who is this?
-John: This is Tom Hanks.
414
00:19:03,943 --> 00:19:05,109
(Bruce groans)
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00:19:05,176 --> 00:19:06,943
John:
Oh, Cameron Diaz.
416
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-Bruce: She got a great ass.
-John: Yeah.
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00:19:08,543 --> 00:19:10,643
Bruce:
If what I saw on the Internet
was actually her ass.
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John: Do you think
he did good in "Titanic"?
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00:19:13,976 --> 00:19:16,776
No. I think he's a lousy actor,
to be honest with you.
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♪ ♪
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John:
Whoa. No one's gonna
believe I saw this.
422
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-(monkeys squeaking)
-(John laughs)
423
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And right there.
There we go.
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What are you chewing at?
425
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-John: They picked your scabs?
-Bruce: Well, either they do it
426
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or I do it. It doesn't matter.
I pick 'em, too.
427
00:19:33,043 --> 00:19:34,276
John:
You're covered in blood.
428
00:19:34,343 --> 00:19:36,576
Employee:
Welcome to the Salt
and Pepper Shaker Museum!
429
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John:
Ooh, "beverage." Just like you.
430
00:19:38,943 --> 00:19:41,209
Nah, spelled differently,
though, isn't it?
431
00:19:41,309 --> 00:19:44,576
Oh, my God. There's Bozo.
God bless you.
432
00:19:44,643 --> 00:19:46,409
John:
You want any, uh, salt
and pepper shakers, Bruce?
433
00:19:46,476 --> 00:19:48,209
-Popeye.
-John: You want Popeye?
434
00:19:48,276 --> 00:19:50,276
If there's a Popeye one in here,
I want Popeye.
435
00:19:50,343 --> 00:19:52,576
Well, he was my favorite cartoon
since I was a kid,
436
00:19:52,643 --> 00:19:55,143
but because
of the whole sailor thing.
437
00:19:57,843 --> 00:20:00,009
I was a sergeant,
was a police sergeant.
438
00:20:00,076 --> 00:20:02,443
John:
You ever see anything
you can't forget?
439
00:20:02,509 --> 00:20:05,776
Uh-huh. I've seen a lot
of things I can't forget.
440
00:20:05,843 --> 00:20:08,009
(quiet restaurant chatter)
441
00:20:08,076 --> 00:20:10,843
Any kind of a death scene
is really kind of traumatic,
442
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whether it be a suicide
or murder
443
00:20:13,276 --> 00:20:16,443
or a little kid gets killed,
gets murdered. That's not good.
444
00:20:18,076 --> 00:20:21,243
But it's... to see
the faces of the dead,
445
00:20:21,309 --> 00:20:22,943
the dead faces,
446
00:20:23,009 --> 00:20:24,209
and th-they'll never leave me.
447
00:20:24,276 --> 00:20:26,043
I can remember
every one of 'em.
448
00:20:27,943 --> 00:20:29,643
You know, I-I've seen people,
449
00:20:29,709 --> 00:20:30,943
you know, that have
had heart attacks
450
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on their toilet
in the summertime
451
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and there, there's no
air conditioning in the house.
452
00:20:34,743 --> 00:20:37,109
And you go in there
and it's been two weeks.
453
00:20:37,176 --> 00:20:37,976
John:
Yeah.
454
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Bruce:
That's not good.
455
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John:
Um, I-I think we're good
for right now.
456
00:20:41,309 --> 00:20:42,243
-Okay. Alright.
-John: Thank you.
457
00:20:42,309 --> 00:20:43,309
-You're welcome.
-Thank you.
458
00:20:44,609 --> 00:20:46,576
The smell...
459
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The smell stays in your nose
for two, three, two weeks.
460
00:20:50,576 --> 00:20:52,709
-Three weeks sometimes.
-John: Oh my...
461
00:20:52,776 --> 00:20:54,809
Bruce:
Who's your favorite Beatle?
462
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-John: Who's my
favorite Beatle?
-Bruce: Yeah.
463
00:20:56,509 --> 00:20:58,276
John:
I like George.
464
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What do you think?
What does that mean about me?
465
00:21:00,743 --> 00:21:03,009
-It means you and I are alike.
-Oh, really?
466
00:21:03,076 --> 00:21:04,109
Yeah.
467
00:21:04,543 --> 00:21:07,509
John:
It seemed like you were really
starting to connect with him,
468
00:21:07,576 --> 00:21:10,676
and you felt like
he would understand
469
00:21:10,743 --> 00:21:12,876
if you told him
about that stuff
470
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that you faked for the show.
471
00:21:15,909 --> 00:21:17,143
But then,
when you were finishing up,
472
00:21:17,209 --> 00:21:18,909
you checked your phone,
and you saw
473
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you got another email
from the same address.
474
00:21:21,543 --> 00:21:24,109
(mysterious music playing)
475
00:21:24,176 --> 00:21:27,543
You didn't want Bruce to feel
like he was in danger,
476
00:21:27,609 --> 00:21:31,776
so you asked him to just
drive you to the Best Western,
477
00:21:31,843 --> 00:21:35,009
uh, to pretend
to take care of something.
478
00:21:35,076 --> 00:21:37,076
I want my own building,
a large building,
479
00:21:37,143 --> 00:21:39,209
hopefully my own hotel.
I want a big one.
480
00:21:39,276 --> 00:21:42,476
I wanna be in charge of people
because that's what I do.
481
00:21:43,209 --> 00:21:46,076
-John: Yeah.
-And then, I want to retire.
482
00:21:48,243 --> 00:21:49,409
John:
Turn right.
483
00:21:49,476 --> 00:21:51,609
-Bruce: Turn right, go this way?
Want me to park?
-John: Yeah.
484
00:21:51,676 --> 00:21:55,109
Yeah, yeah. Just park it now,
for, just for a second.
485
00:21:55,209 --> 00:21:58,043
You could tell
he was getting suspicious,
486
00:21:58,109 --> 00:22:00,476
but while you were waiting,
487
00:22:00,543 --> 00:22:02,776
there was something
you finally wanted
488
00:22:02,843 --> 00:22:05,109
to get off your chest.
489
00:22:05,176 --> 00:22:08,809
Do you ever have a hard time
knowing what the truth is?
490
00:22:10,343 --> 00:22:12,776
There's a lot of absolute truths
that you would hope
491
00:22:12,843 --> 00:22:14,876
that everyone would agree on,
yeah.
492
00:22:15,876 --> 00:22:18,143
The sky is blue. You know,
493
00:22:18,209 --> 00:22:20,809
anybody who doesn't
agree with that,
494
00:22:20,876 --> 00:22:23,409
you know, has got
some serious issues in the head.
495
00:22:25,176 --> 00:22:27,376
John:
Is there a way to, like,
make something up,
496
00:22:27,443 --> 00:22:31,176
and for it to,
like, not be a problem?
497
00:22:31,243 --> 00:22:32,909
(phone ringing)
498
00:22:32,976 --> 00:22:34,709
I don't, I don't understand
what you mean.
499
00:22:34,776 --> 00:22:36,309
Hold on. I'm sorry.
500
00:22:36,376 --> 00:22:38,609
(phone ringing)
501
00:22:38,676 --> 00:22:40,476
-John: Who's that?
-My mother.
502
00:22:40,543 --> 00:22:43,009
-John: Oh, okay.
You gotta get it?
-(answers phone)
503
00:22:43,743 --> 00:22:45,843
-Hello?
-Mother (on phone): Hello?
504
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:47,609
-Yes.
-Mother: What are you doing?
505
00:22:47,676 --> 00:22:50,876
I'm l... right in the middle
of being interviewed.
506
00:22:50,943 --> 00:22:53,209
Mother:
Oh, okay. Well, I'll talk to
you later. Gimme a call.
507
00:22:53,276 --> 00:22:56,043
Why don't you call Michelle?
Michelle's got her phone on.
508
00:22:56,109 --> 00:22:58,909
-Mother: Okay.
-Alright. Yeah. Bye-bye.
509
00:22:58,976 --> 00:23:01,043
John: (awkward laugh)
It's okay.
510
00:23:02,876 --> 00:23:05,076
I, I don't... I don't know
what you mean by that.
511
00:23:06,243 --> 00:23:08,209
John:
Well, it's like, uh...
512
00:23:08,276 --> 00:23:11,009
you know, it's like
I made up, like, uh...
513
00:23:11,076 --> 00:23:12,609
I think I...
I-I faked a shot
514
00:23:12,676 --> 00:23:14,743
in one of my documentaries,
you know?
515
00:23:14,809 --> 00:23:17,076
And I told someone
that it was real,
516
00:23:17,143 --> 00:23:20,043
and I feel kind of guilty
about it, you know?
517
00:23:20,109 --> 00:23:21,976
But, i-it... I... (stammers)
518
00:23:22,043 --> 00:23:24,109
It feels like kind of
a victimless thing...
519
00:23:24,176 --> 00:23:26,676
Yeah, well, sometimes, you know,
we gotta do stuff like that.
520
00:23:26,743 --> 00:23:28,643
You know, I used to
be a police officer.
521
00:23:28,709 --> 00:23:30,143
I know what that means.
522
00:23:30,209 --> 00:23:31,576
John:
How do you mean?
523
00:23:31,643 --> 00:23:33,176
Well, sometimes you gotta
fake some things,
524
00:23:33,243 --> 00:23:34,643
because if you don't,
525
00:23:34,743 --> 00:23:38,143
it could turn into a worse
situation than what you have.
526
00:23:38,209 --> 00:23:40,843
-John: Yeah.
-(foreboding music playing)
527
00:23:40,909 --> 00:23:42,409
See, this was the deal.
528
00:23:42,476 --> 00:23:45,609
If you ever do anything
like that, this is the rule.
529
00:23:45,676 --> 00:23:48,109
And I swear to God,
you need to follow it.
530
00:23:48,176 --> 00:23:51,809
-Never tell anyone.
-John: Mm.
531
00:23:51,876 --> 00:23:53,809
Because, I mean,
you told me about it.
532
00:23:53,876 --> 00:23:55,543
But, I mean, I...
I'm not involved with your life.
533
00:23:55,609 --> 00:23:57,143
I'll probably
never see you again.
534
00:23:57,209 --> 00:23:58,576
-John: Uh-huh.
-So it won't have any effect.
535
00:23:58,643 --> 00:24:00,976
But, you never know.
Because this is the thing.
536
00:24:01,043 --> 00:24:03,609
There's only two people
can keep a secret...
537
00:24:03,676 --> 00:24:05,343
-John: Uh-huh.
-As long as one of 'em is dead.
538
00:24:05,409 --> 00:24:07,509
-(church bell tolls)
-John: Mm-hmm.
539
00:24:07,576 --> 00:24:08,776
And that's a fact.
540
00:24:10,543 --> 00:24:12,643
-I'm gonna smoke. You mind?
-John: No, no, no. Go ahead.
541
00:24:12,709 --> 00:24:15,243
Stay, stay in here.
I'm gonna get out
for one second.
542
00:24:18,143 --> 00:24:21,576
-I'm just gonna go check
something out in the motel.
-Okay.
543
00:24:23,743 --> 00:24:27,276
John:
It seems like even if you do
tell someone the truth,
544
00:24:27,343 --> 00:24:29,976
you may only be left
with one option
545
00:24:30,043 --> 00:24:33,176
if you want your secret
to be safe.
546
00:24:33,943 --> 00:24:38,309
You went up to the room that
the email told you about,
547
00:24:38,376 --> 00:24:41,809
and the door
was slightly ajar.
548
00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:45,243
You walk in,
but there doesn't seem to be
549
00:24:45,309 --> 00:24:47,909
any signs of life anywhere.
550
00:24:47,976 --> 00:24:51,143
It was really nice
getting to know Bruce,
551
00:24:51,209 --> 00:24:54,276
but it seems like
it was finally time
552
00:24:54,343 --> 00:24:56,876
for you to part ways.
553
00:24:57,609 --> 00:25:00,476
You weren't looking forward
to the long drive
554
00:25:00,543 --> 00:25:02,143
back to New York City,
555
00:25:02,209 --> 00:25:04,376
but maybe what you
really need now
556
00:25:04,443 --> 00:25:07,543
is just a little time to your...
557
00:25:07,609 --> 00:25:10,576
-(explosion blasts)
-John: Ah!
558
00:25:10,643 --> 00:25:12,109
Fuck!
559
00:25:12,176 --> 00:25:15,143
(flames crackling)
560
00:25:15,243 --> 00:25:18,276
(dramatic music playing)
561
00:25:22,176 --> 00:25:25,343
(sirens wailing)
562
00:25:28,709 --> 00:25:32,676
(fire truck idling)
563
00:25:35,076 --> 00:25:36,976
Was there anybody
in the vehicle?
564
00:25:37,043 --> 00:25:39,409
John:
Um, yeah. My, uh...
565
00:25:39,476 --> 00:25:41,409
my friend Bruce.
566
00:25:41,476 --> 00:25:44,176
Okay.
What's Bruce's last name?
567
00:25:44,243 --> 00:25:46,276
-John: Beveridge.
-Beveridge.
568
00:25:47,109 --> 00:25:50,176
(water hissing)
569
00:25:52,976 --> 00:25:55,009
♪ ♪
570
00:26:15,076 --> 00:26:18,043
(clicking)
571
00:26:21,909 --> 00:26:23,443
(presses pedal)
572
00:26:24,609 --> 00:26:27,643
(playing soft melody)
573
00:26:38,709 --> 00:26:42,009
John:
There are times when
you may know the truth
574
00:26:42,076 --> 00:26:45,043
but the world might not
be ready for it.
575
00:26:45,109 --> 00:26:47,509
(piano music continues)
576
00:26:47,576 --> 00:26:50,543
It may be painful
trying to keep it a secret...
577
00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:52,076
(lever clicking)
578
00:26:52,143 --> 00:26:54,943
John:
...but at the end of the day,
it'll all be worth it.
579
00:26:55,043 --> 00:26:57,243
Oh...
580
00:26:57,309 --> 00:26:58,776
Oh, God.
581
00:26:58,843 --> 00:27:01,143
(water splashing)
582
00:27:01,209 --> 00:27:03,576
John:
Oh, no...
583
00:27:03,643 --> 00:27:05,509
Oh!
584
00:27:05,576 --> 00:27:09,943
Because the world
needs its illusions.
585
00:27:10,009 --> 00:27:13,709
And who are you to take
that away from them?
586
00:27:17,009 --> 00:27:20,909
So the next time something
seems too good to be true...
587
00:27:22,476 --> 00:27:24,509
just enjoy that
you live in a world
588
00:27:24,576 --> 00:27:28,109
where something like that
is possible.
589
00:27:29,443 --> 00:27:31,143
(piano melody ends)
590
00:27:31,209 --> 00:27:34,743
This is John Wilson.
Thanks for watching.
591
00:27:36,643 --> 00:27:39,643
(classical music playing)
592
00:27:53,443 --> 00:27:55,543
♪ ♪
593
00:28:25,476 --> 00:28:26,476
(music fades)
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