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Hello and welcome to Global Eye,
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the programme that brings you
in-depth investigations
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and reporting by the teams
of the BBC World Service.
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I'm Lyse Doucet, the BBC's
Chief International Correspondent.
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This week we're in Syria,
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a country I've reported from
since the mid 1990s.
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And we were here in Damascus
during those extraordinary days
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after the repressive rule
of Bashar al-Assad ended
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on December the 8th, 2024.
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Syrians surged into this
iconic Umayyad Square.
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You could feel the euphoria,
the rare hope.
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But on some streets across Syria,
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there was also uncertainty.
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Some even felt fear.
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More than 50 long years of the
Assad family's brutal dictatorship
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and a 14-year-long civil war
had ended.
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But how hard has it been to build
a new Syria?
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Also in this week's programme,
we'll reveal how Russia
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is luring foreign nationals
from all over the world
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to fight in Ukraine with generous
offers of money and citizenship.
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Somali, da?
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India? India.
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But they're often left
with broken promises,
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threats to their family,
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and condemned to serve on
the most dangerous stretches
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of the front line.
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And I take an exclusive look
inside the world of Hind Kabawat
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as she navigates her role
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as Syria's only female
cabinet minister.
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December 8th was the day
millions of Syrians
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thought they would never see.
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See that mountain, just behind me?
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At the very top sits
the presidential palace.
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Suddenly, the president was gone.
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He fled to Russia with his family,
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and opposition fighters
poured into this capital
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after their astonishing sweep
across Syria,
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meeting hardly any resistance,
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among them the most powerful of all,
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Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, or HTS.
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It ended a nightmare which had seen
hundreds of thousands killed.
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Hundreds of thousands had
disappeared into dark dungeons,
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many tortured to death,
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and millions had been forced to
flee their homes, their country.
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On that defining day,
the leader of HTS,
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known by his war name,
Abu Mohammed al-Jolani,
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immediately came here,
to the grand Umayyad Mosque
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in the historic Old City.
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He announced a new history
was now being written.
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He soon changed out of his
military uniform into a suit
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and started using his real name,
Ahmed Al-Sharaa.
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Syrians wondered,
and some worried,
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about what life would be like now,
under a new leader
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with his past links to
Al-Qaeda and Islamic State.
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President Ahmed Al-Sharaa
presented himself as a pragmatist.
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One year on, you can feel here
what's changed and what's not.
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Syrians tell us they now feel freer
to speak their mind,
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but some still worry a bit
about social freedoms.
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Here in the Old City,
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its famed restaurants and bars
are still open,
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but some women say they feel a bit
more pressure about what they wear,
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although there's still that same
mix of headscarves and not.
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In some ways, life here
hasn't really changed much.
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Syrians,
including all these businesses,
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are still living with power cuts
and water shortages.
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90% of Syrians are still
living beneath the poverty line.
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They need jobs.
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This is Syria's story.
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This is Yarmouk.
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So many neighbourhoods
on the edge of Damascus,
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in major cities like
Homs and Aleppo,
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are just like this - in utter ruin.
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A decade ago,
in the worst of the war,
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we managed to report
from inside here, inside Yarmouk,
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a place besieged
by government forces,
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and saw the devastation,
the desperation
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of a people starving for food,
for freedom,
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a tactic called surrender or starve.
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The rebuild has begun a bit.
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The World Bank says Syria needs
at least $200 billion
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to fix the country.
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Millions of Syrians
inside and outside the country
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can't return home unless
there's a home to come back to.
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President Al-Sharaa keeps saying
he wants investment, not aid.
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Now, some Western donors
have committed millions,
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and some wealthy Gulf states
and Turkey have signed big deals,
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mainly for infrastructure -
the ports, airports,
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electricity, energy.
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Most investors
are still holding back,
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waiting for sanctions to be lifted,
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for a new legal structure
to be put in place,
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waiting for security to improve.
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Syria's new flag
now flies everywhere.
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"One hand, one Syria,"
so the saying goes.
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But one year on,
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Syria's post-war politics
is still dominated by
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the former fighters and close allies
of President Al-Sharaa,
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who come from Syria's majority
Sunni community.
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There's been tension and violence
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against some of the minority
communities,
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including the Alawites,
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the same Shia sect
of the ousted Assad family.
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GUNFIRE
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And also against the Druze
in southern Syria.
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And there are issues, too,
with the Kurds in the north-east.
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And to make matters even worse,
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Israel continues to bomb Syria,
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saying its own security
is threatened.
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For Syrians,
security is a major priority.
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Among the issues,
the thousands of foreign fighters
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drawn into Syria
during the civil war.
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Syria now is not just a destination
for foreign fighters,
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it's become a source.
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Thousands of young,
vulnerable Syrians
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are now being recruited
into other conflicts.
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BBC Eye Investigations
has uncovered covert networks
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funnelling fighters from Syria,
from Yemen,
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into Russia's war in Ukraine,
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lured by promises of
cash and citizenship.
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Nawal Al-Maghafi now reports
on the human cost of a conflict
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reaching far beyond the borders
of Russia and Ukraine.
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We're in Shakhove
in eastern Ukraine,
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10km from Russian-controlled
territory.
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We're following Ukraine's
157th Brigade.
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Just days earlier,
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the unit captured two fighters
carrying Chinese passports.
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They're currently being held in a
Ukrainian prisoner of war facility.
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GUNFIRE
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The Russians are
continuously recruiting
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foreign fighters
from all over the world.
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Does that worry you?
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A lot of these foreign fighters
are very desperate.
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DISTANT GUNFIRE
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What would you say to them?
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As we talk, we hear a drone
approach from overhead.
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It seems to be getting closer.
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The war here shows
no sign of ending.
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Go, go, go, go, go.
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For the past year,
BBC Eye has been investigating
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the networks enticing young men
into joining Russia's ranks
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and tracking down
the foreign soldiers
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that made it to the front line
of this conflict.
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HEAVY BREATHING
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This is the voice of Omar -
not his real name.
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He spent 14 years living through
Syria's brutal civil war,
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and is the sole breadwinner
for his family,
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who are struggling to survive.
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We're hiding his identity
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to protect him from
the Russian authorities.
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He's been sending us voice notes
from the front line.
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Omar was recruited by this woman,
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Polina Alexandrovna Azarnykh,
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a 40-year-old former teacher
and businesswoman
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from Russia's Voronezh region.
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She's been recruiting men
into the Russian army
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from all over the world
through this Telegram channel.
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It's become a pipeline
into Russia's army.
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In March 2024,
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Omar and six men from his hometown
made their way to Moscow.
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There, they met Polina.
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She promised them
Russian citizenship,
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$2,500 monthly
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and $5,000 up front
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for signing a contract for one year.
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Omar says that Polina assured them
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that if they gave her a cut
of $3,000,
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she would also ensure that they'd
only serve in non-combat roles.
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But that promise wasn't kept.
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In response to his accusations,
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Polina made this threat.
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We've spoken to 12 families
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whose sons were recruited by Polina.
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All of them are now either
dead or missing.
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And in the last year,
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we've been able
to track over 490 invitations
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she's sent to men
from all over the world.
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But she is not the only one
operating in this way.
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The Kremlin has relied on
informal recruiters globally
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since the start of
the full-scale invasion.
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GUNFIRE
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So far, Russia has succeeded
in bringing in
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an estimated 20,000 foreign fighters
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from places like Nepal,
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Egypt and Cuba,
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as well as other countries
across Africa,
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Iraq and Yemen.
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We made our way to Lviv
in western Ukraine,
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to one of the country's largest
prisoner of war facilities
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to meet some of the captured
foreign fighters.
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Nowhere is the diversity of
Russia's recruitment scheme
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more apparent than here.
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Does anyone here speak Arabic?
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Where are you from? Sri Lanka?
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Is it OK if we film your table?
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No.
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We're not allowed to show
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the prisoners' faces
without their consent.
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But there are people here
from all over the world.
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I've met someone from Egypt,
from Senegal, from Sri Lanka.
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There are men here from everywhere.
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I'm being taken to meet fighters
from Yemen.
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Khalil had only been in
Russia six weeks
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before he was captured.
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Khalil told me he knew going to
Russia might lead to army service,
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but the money they were
promised convinced him.
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Khalil asked if he could call his
mother to let her know he's alive.
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LINE RINGS
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For now, Khalil can only leave
prison if he is sent back to Yemen
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or traded in a prisoner exchange
with Russia.
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Despite his newly gained
Russian citizenship,
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neither country has tried
to repatriate him.
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The contracts foreign fighters sign
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are issued by
the Ministry of Defence.
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Recruiters like Polina
facilitate this.
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On her Telegram group, she says
that the contract only lasts a year.
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What she fails to mention is
that a September 2022 decree
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from President Putin
binds all soldiers
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to serve until the war ends,
leaving men like Omar trapped.
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We reached out to Polina.
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After weeks of back-and-forth,
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she agrees to speak
to us via video call.
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Hello?
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Is this Polina?
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Polina, you know
that I'm going to make this call.
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I'm Nawal Al-Maghafi at the BBC.
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OK, so my first question is,
I've spoken to recruits who say
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that you promised them
non-combat roles,
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and they say that you misled them.
Mm-hm.
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What's your answer to this?
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INDISTINCT
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Can you explain to her
that it's really important?
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BEEPING
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She's hung up.
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It's OK.
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We sent our allegations to Polina
in full.
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She left us this voice note.
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For now, the war between Russia
and Ukraine grinds on,
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putting more civilians at risk.
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Moscow will continue
to feed its war machine.
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The burden falls on the vulnerable,
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the young men sent to fight
with no experience,
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the families waiting for news,
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and the prisoners forgotten
in Ukraine.
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Here are some other stories
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that the BBC World Service
has covered this week.
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We just saw Nawal Al-Maghafi's
investigation
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into Russia's
foreign fighters.
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This week, Nawal has also
been reporting on a network
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of secret prisons
run by the UAE
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during Yemen's decade-long
civil war.
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Former detainees
told the BBC they were subjected
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to brutal treatment
and harsh conditions.
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Nawal's full story is on
the BBC News website.
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Syria confronts so many challenges.
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Syrians tell us they know
it will take time
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to build a new Syria, but they want
to see their leader moving towards
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a more inclusive system.
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His current cabinet
only includes one woman,
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so how much can Hind Kabawat,
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Syria's Minister of Social Affairs
and Labour, really achieve?
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A new start for Syria.
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The dead weight of dictatorship,
gone.
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You can still feel the lightness.
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But building a new Syria takes time.
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Hind Kabawat feels the pressure.
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Oh, my God. You have to meet these
two women. Wow.
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She's the director of Daraa,
and she's the director of Quneitra.
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The women's representatives
coming from...
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They have positions.
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They have positions
and now we are supporting them.
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I didn't change my furniture...
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To her office,
Hind brings her own history -
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educated in the East and West,
lawyer,
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former opposition leader,
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living in exile for 14 years.
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Now, a seat at the top table,
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some staff from the old
ministry working with her,
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Having two - social affairs
and labour...
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One would be a lot
of work. Having two...
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Two in transition period
and post-conflict.
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Yeah. It's too much?
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Yeah, it is too much,
but, er, it's OK.
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Is it?
This is the challenge.
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In Syria, women have always been
visible in public life.
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Many now want to be part
of this moment of sweeping change.
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Do you think you bring something
different to your job
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because you are a woman?
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Er, you know what?
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With no diplomacy here,
yes.
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But you're lonely there.
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You're the only woman in the
government. You're dominat...
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You're surrounded by the men
who are leading.
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No, actually... Who are in charge.
Actually, I surround them.
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Really? Don't underestimate
the power of woman.
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The president is very supportive
of us.
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I have the full
authority to do
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whatever I want in my ministry.
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They respect what I do,
and I want to have more women
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in there, in the cabinet.
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Today the minister takes
her team to Idlib,
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the former rebel stronghold
of the men now in charge.
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14 years of war left many wounds.
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This is one.
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Hundreds of thousands
of displaced people
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still languish in camps like this.
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Hind is here to hear their stories.
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Families live in flimsy tents
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in pain, poverty,
and no aid from anyone.
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Hind throws it back to them.
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A minister unable
to offer much aid,
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except to try to help people
help themselves.
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Do you fear that people's patience
will run out?
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Of course, and they're right.
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You put yourself into their shoes.
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And we don't have the money.
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And if we don't
have united effort
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from the international
community to help at least
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building some houses
for those people,
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because this is hard for them...
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What members of the international
community say is,
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the government is too slow,
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that you're not moving
quickly enough on establishing
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a new legal framework,
on transparency.
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We are moving, but you have
to understand
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it's only one year now.
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We get a country
that's been completely destroyed.
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There are still long shadows
at the start of Syria's new day -
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a country some call a mosaic.
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Many traditions and sects.
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War created deep cracks.
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Some fear they're getting worse.
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Alawites, Druze, Kurds, all accuse
Syria's new leaders -
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former fighters,
all Sunni Muslims -
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of turning their guns against them.
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In the past year, there was this
massacre in the coastal areas.
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1,400 people killed.
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And the inquiry said possible war
crimes were committed.
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Again, violence in the south
against the Druze.
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This has opened a wound.
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Did the government make mistakes
in how it responded?
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Mistakes happen in transition,
in post-conflict.
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But more than just mistakes?
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Yeah, but...but what happened,
immediately,
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there is a commission to inqui...
A commission of inquiry.
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There is investigation.
And I know now so many of those
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who committed those crimes
are in prison.
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Am I happy about it? Of course not.
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Not even the president.
Everyone, we're not happy.
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Syria's scars run deep -
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entire neighbourhoods
wiped out by war.
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Some of the worst fighting was here,
on the edges of the capital.
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I came to Jobar with Fawzia
al Assad, a civil society activist.
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She's focused on the most
painful of issues
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for many ministries, including
Hind's.
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Fawzia shows me images on her phone
of her effort to heal these wounds.
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Truth tents, they're called - a
space where Syrians meet every month
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to share their photos,
their stories.
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Fawzia has her own.
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Her father, Khalid,
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detained on October 21st, 2012.
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When the regime fell,
only a confirmation came.
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He was dead.
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Uncle Abdul Karim had been taken,
too, that same year,
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one month later.
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And Uncle Khalid.
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But no-one seems to know
what happened to them.
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Are you getting any support
at all from the government?
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And what about the Ministry of
Social Affairs and Labour,
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with Hind Kabawat?
Have you gone there?
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Syrians want answers and action.
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Hind says it's a priority,
but so much else is, too.
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Home.
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Hind's family home -
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a place to refresh, to reflect.
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Is there one moment
in this last year
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where you came home, you thought,
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"I just...I just can't...can't
do it"?
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I see the suffering of the people
post-conflict.
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I see the suffering of the women
who lost their children.
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And I feel responsible.
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I feel responsible for their pain.
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Sometimes I say,
"Why did I do this?"
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But...but in the end, I say,
"If I don't serve them now...
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"..I will have more tears later."
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So tears at home.
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Feeling that sometimes I don't have
the resource to...to help everybody.
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That's...that's the only time
I feel like, er...
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.."Why did I do this?" Yeah.
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CHEERING
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Syrians still celebrate
the end of decades of dictatorship.
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ULULATION
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A year is a short time
to move from war to peace.
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But Syrians now want
to see clearer signs
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that this is a new start.
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Thank you for joining us
here in Syria.
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We like receiving your feedback,
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so let us know what you think on
social media
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