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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,240 Hello and welcome to Global Eye, 2 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:24,640 the programme that brings you in-depth investigations 3 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,320 and reporting by the teams of the BBC World Service. 4 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,480 I'm Lyse Doucet, the BBC's Chief International Correspondent. 5 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:34,400 This week we're in Syria, 6 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,480 a country I've reported from since the mid 1990s. 7 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:43,240 And we were here in Damascus during those extraordinary days 8 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,720 after the repressive rule of Bashar al-Assad ended 9 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,480 on December the 8th, 2024. 10 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:54,960 Syrians surged into this iconic Umayyad Square. 11 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,640 You could feel the euphoria, the rare hope. 12 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,200 But on some streets across Syria, 13 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,440 there was also uncertainty. 14 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,040 Some even felt fear. 15 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:11,320 More than 50 long years of the Assad family's brutal dictatorship 16 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:15,800 and a 14-year-long civil war had ended. 17 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,120 But how hard has it been to build a new Syria? 18 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,320 Also in this week's programme, we'll reveal how Russia 19 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:27,920 is luring foreign nationals from all over the world 20 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,040 to fight in Ukraine with generous offers of money and citizenship. 21 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,880 Somali, da? 22 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,560 India? India. 23 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,760 But they're often left with broken promises, 24 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,360 threats to their family, 25 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,240 and condemned to serve on the most dangerous stretches 26 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,560 of the front line. 27 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:57,400 And I take an exclusive look inside the world of Hind Kabawat 28 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,200 as she navigates her role 29 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,920 as Syria's only female cabinet minister. 30 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,600 December 8th was the day millions of Syrians 31 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,040 thought they would never see. 32 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,320 See that mountain, just behind me? 33 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,640 At the very top sits the presidential palace. 34 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:17,640 Suddenly, the president was gone. 35 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:20,240 He fled to Russia with his family, 36 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,640 and opposition fighters poured into this capital 37 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:26,720 after their astonishing sweep across Syria, 38 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,120 meeting hardly any resistance, 39 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,800 among them the most powerful of all, 40 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,160 Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, or HTS. 41 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,400 It ended a nightmare which had seen hundreds of thousands killed. 42 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,600 Hundreds of thousands had disappeared into dark dungeons, 43 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,600 many tortured to death, 44 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,280 and millions had been forced to flee their homes, their country. 45 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,360 On that defining day, the leader of HTS, 46 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,800 known by his war name, Abu Mohammed al-Jolani, 47 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,040 immediately came here, to the grand Umayyad Mosque 48 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,960 in the historic Old City. 49 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,360 He announced a new history was now being written. 50 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:23,640 He soon changed out of his military uniform into a suit 51 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:27,160 and started using his real name, Ahmed Al-Sharaa. 52 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,200 Syrians wondered, and some worried, 53 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,520 about what life would be like now, under a new leader 54 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,880 with his past links to Al-Qaeda and Islamic State. 55 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,600 President Ahmed Al-Sharaa presented himself as a pragmatist. 56 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:47,120 One year on, you can feel here what's changed and what's not. 57 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,400 Syrians tell us they now feel freer to speak their mind, 58 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,440 but some still worry a bit about social freedoms. 59 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,080 Here in the Old City, 60 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,960 its famed restaurants and bars are still open, 61 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,920 but some women say they feel a bit more pressure about what they wear, 62 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,920 although there's still that same mix of headscarves and not. 63 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,800 In some ways, life here hasn't really changed much. 64 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,360 Syrians, including all these businesses, 65 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,840 are still living with power cuts and water shortages. 66 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:27,160 90% of Syrians are still living beneath the poverty line. 67 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,720 They need jobs. 68 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,600 This is Syria's story. 69 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,280 This is Yarmouk. 70 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:37,480 So many neighbourhoods on the edge of Damascus, 71 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,200 in major cities like Homs and Aleppo, 72 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,120 are just like this - in utter ruin. 73 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,360 A decade ago, in the worst of the war, 74 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,720 we managed to report from inside here, inside Yarmouk, 75 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,000 a place besieged by government forces, 76 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,200 and saw the devastation, the desperation 77 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,840 of a people starving for food, for freedom, 78 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:05,000 a tactic called surrender or starve. 79 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,000 The rebuild has begun a bit. 80 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:15,680 The World Bank says Syria needs at least $200 billion 81 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,840 to fix the country. 82 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:23,000 Millions of Syrians inside and outside the country 83 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,080 can't return home unless there's a home to come back to. 84 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,080 President Al-Sharaa keeps saying he wants investment, not aid. 85 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,800 Now, some Western donors have committed millions, 86 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,160 and some wealthy Gulf states and Turkey have signed big deals, 87 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,200 mainly for infrastructure - the ports, airports, 88 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,480 electricity, energy. 89 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,320 Most investors are still holding back, 90 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,760 waiting for sanctions to be lifted, 91 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,480 for a new legal structure to be put in place, 92 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,040 waiting for security to improve. 93 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,760 Syria's new flag now flies everywhere. 94 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,040 "One hand, one Syria," so the saying goes. 95 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,320 But one year on, 96 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,520 Syria's post-war politics is still dominated by 97 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:14,200 the former fighters and close allies of President Al-Sharaa, 98 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,320 who come from Syria's majority Sunni community. 99 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,360 There's been tension and violence 100 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,760 against some of the minority communities, 101 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,880 including the Alawites, 102 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,360 the same Shia sect of the ousted Assad family. 103 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,080 GUNFIRE 104 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,840 And also against the Druze in southern Syria. 105 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:38,040 And there are issues, too, with the Kurds in the north-east. 106 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,000 And to make matters even worse, 107 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,760 Israel continues to bomb Syria, 108 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,600 saying its own security is threatened. 109 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,560 For Syrians, security is a major priority. 110 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,680 Among the issues, the thousands of foreign fighters 111 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,760 drawn into Syria during the civil war. 112 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,480 Syria now is not just a destination for foreign fighters, 113 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,520 it's become a source. 114 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,040 Thousands of young, vulnerable Syrians 115 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,680 are now being recruited into other conflicts. 116 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,440 BBC Eye Investigations has uncovered covert networks 117 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,080 funnelling fighters from Syria, from Yemen, 118 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,160 into Russia's war in Ukraine, 119 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,640 lured by promises of cash and citizenship. 120 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,920 Nawal Al-Maghafi now reports on the human cost of a conflict 121 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,320 reaching far beyond the borders of Russia and Ukraine. 122 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,960 We're in Shakhove in eastern Ukraine, 123 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,720 10km from Russian-controlled territory. 124 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,840 We're following Ukraine's 157th Brigade. 125 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,280 Just days earlier, 126 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,880 the unit captured two fighters carrying Chinese passports. 127 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,440 They're currently being held in a Ukrainian prisoner of war facility. 128 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,840 GUNFIRE 129 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,480 The Russians are continuously recruiting 130 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,520 foreign fighters from all over the world. 131 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:10,880 Does that worry you? 132 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,880 A lot of these foreign fighters are very desperate. 133 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,160 DISTANT GUNFIRE 134 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,520 What would you say to them? 135 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,760 As we talk, we hear a drone approach from overhead. 136 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,400 It seems to be getting closer. 137 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,240 The war here shows no sign of ending. 138 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,600 Go, go, go, go, go. 139 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,360 For the past year, BBC Eye has been investigating 140 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,360 the networks enticing young men into joining Russia's ranks 141 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,600 and tracking down the foreign soldiers 142 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,240 that made it to the front line of this conflict. 143 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,840 HEAVY BREATHING 144 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,120 This is the voice of Omar - not his real name. 145 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,880 He spent 14 years living through Syria's brutal civil war, 146 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,240 and is the sole breadwinner for his family, 147 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,600 who are struggling to survive. 148 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:39,920 We're hiding his identity 149 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,400 to protect him from the Russian authorities. 150 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,440 He's been sending us voice notes from the front line. 151 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:23,920 Omar was recruited by this woman, 152 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,920 Polina Alexandrovna Azarnykh, 153 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,360 a 40-year-old former teacher and businesswoman 154 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,000 from Russia's Voronezh region. 155 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,800 She's been recruiting men into the Russian army 156 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,880 from all over the world through this Telegram channel. 157 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,880 It's become a pipeline into Russia's army. 158 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,560 In March 2024, 159 00:10:57,560 --> 00:11:02,720 Omar and six men from his hometown made their way to Moscow. 160 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,800 There, they met Polina. 161 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,520 She promised them Russian citizenship, 162 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,480 $2,500 monthly 163 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,080 and $5,000 up front 164 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,760 for signing a contract for one year. 165 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,560 Omar says that Polina assured them 166 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:19,720 that if they gave her a cut of $3,000, 167 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,760 she would also ensure that they'd only serve in non-combat roles. 168 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,280 But that promise wasn't kept. 169 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,560 In response to his accusations, 170 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:45,360 Polina made this threat. 171 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,600 We've spoken to 12 families 172 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,000 whose sons were recruited by Polina. 173 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,800 All of them are now either dead or missing. 174 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:11,440 And in the last year, 175 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,680 we've been able to track over 490 invitations 176 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:17,000 she's sent to men from all over the world. 177 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,720 But she is not the only one operating in this way. 178 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,000 The Kremlin has relied on informal recruiters globally 179 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,720 since the start of the full-scale invasion. 180 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,600 GUNFIRE 181 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,320 So far, Russia has succeeded in bringing in 182 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,120 an estimated 20,000 foreign fighters 183 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,760 from places like Nepal, 184 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,320 Egypt and Cuba, 185 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,680 as well as other countries across Africa, 186 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:51,240 Iraq and Yemen. 187 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,000 We made our way to Lviv in western Ukraine, 188 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,440 to one of the country's largest prisoner of war facilities 189 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,360 to meet some of the captured foreign fighters. 190 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,840 Nowhere is the diversity of Russia's recruitment scheme 191 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,400 more apparent than here. 192 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,240 Does anyone here speak Arabic? 193 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,520 Where are you from? Sri Lanka? 194 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,600 Is it OK if we film your table? 195 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,600 No. 196 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:27,960 We're not allowed to show 197 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,960 the prisoners' faces without their consent. 198 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,400 But there are people here from all over the world. 199 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,000 I've met someone from Egypt, from Senegal, from Sri Lanka. 200 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,880 There are men here from everywhere. 201 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,240 I'm being taken to meet fighters from Yemen. 202 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,120 Khalil had only been in Russia six weeks 203 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,760 before he was captured. 204 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,680 Khalil told me he knew going to Russia might lead to army service, 205 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:15,240 but the money they were promised convinced him. 206 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,760 Khalil asked if he could call his mother to let her know he's alive. 207 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,360 LINE RINGS 208 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,200 For now, Khalil can only leave prison if he is sent back to Yemen 209 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,840 or traded in a prisoner exchange with Russia. 210 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,600 Despite his newly gained Russian citizenship, 211 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,240 neither country has tried to repatriate him. 212 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,960 The contracts foreign fighters sign 213 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,080 are issued by the Ministry of Defence. 214 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,760 Recruiters like Polina facilitate this. 215 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,240 On her Telegram group, she says that the contract only lasts a year. 216 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,560 What she fails to mention is that a September 2022 decree 217 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,440 from President Putin binds all soldiers 218 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:05,280 to serve until the war ends, leaving men like Omar trapped. 219 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,160 We reached out to Polina. 220 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,440 After weeks of back-and-forth, 221 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,240 she agrees to speak to us via video call. 222 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:19,600 Hello? 223 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,440 Is this Polina? 224 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,680 Polina, you know that I'm going to make this call. 225 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,720 I'm Nawal Al-Maghafi at the BBC. 226 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,560 OK, so my first question is, I've spoken to recruits who say 227 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,680 that you promised them non-combat roles, 228 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,360 and they say that you misled them. Mm-hm. 229 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:44,400 What's your answer to this? 230 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:45,840 INDISTINCT 231 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,040 Can you explain to her that it's really important? 232 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,680 BEEPING 233 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,120 She's hung up. 234 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,240 It's OK. 235 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,280 We sent our allegations to Polina in full. 236 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,280 She left us this voice note. 237 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,640 For now, the war between Russia and Ukraine grinds on, 238 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,360 putting more civilians at risk. 239 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:31,600 Moscow will continue to feed its war machine. 240 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,840 The burden falls on the vulnerable, 241 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,880 the young men sent to fight with no experience, 242 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,120 the families waiting for news, 243 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:42,040 and the prisoners forgotten in Ukraine. 244 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,480 Here are some other stories 245 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,720 that the BBC World Service has covered this week. 246 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,440 We just saw Nawal Al-Maghafi's investigation 247 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,720 into Russia's foreign fighters. 248 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,160 This week, Nawal has also been reporting on a network 249 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,240 of secret prisons run by the UAE 250 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,240 during Yemen's decade-long civil war. 251 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,960 Former detainees told the BBC they were subjected 252 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,200 to brutal treatment and harsh conditions. 253 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,800 Nawal's full story is on the BBC News website. 254 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,920 Syria confronts so many challenges. 255 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,320 Syrians tell us they know it will take time 256 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,240 to build a new Syria, but they want to see their leader moving towards 257 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,560 a more inclusive system. 258 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,720 His current cabinet only includes one woman, 259 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,960 so how much can Hind Kabawat, 260 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:04,120 Syria's Minister of Social Affairs and Labour, really achieve? 261 00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:08,680 A new start for Syria. 262 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,640 The dead weight of dictatorship, gone. 263 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,920 You can still feel the lightness. 264 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,760 But building a new Syria takes time. 265 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,480 Hind Kabawat feels the pressure. 266 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,360 Oh, my God. You have to meet these two women. Wow. 267 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:31,760 She's the director of Daraa, and she's the director of Quneitra. 268 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,320 The women's representatives coming from... 269 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:34,600 They have positions. 270 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,280 They have positions and now we are supporting them. 271 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,680 I didn't change my furniture... 272 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,440 To her office, Hind brings her own history - 273 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,400 educated in the East and West, lawyer, 274 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,480 former opposition leader, 275 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,080 living in exile for 14 years. 276 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,560 Now, a seat at the top table, 277 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,280 some staff from the old ministry working with her, 278 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,600 Having two - social affairs and labour... 279 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,600 One would be a lot of work. Having two... 280 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,080 Two in transition period and post-conflict. 281 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,600 Yeah. It's too much? 282 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,200 Yeah, it is too much, but, er, it's OK. 283 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,080 Is it? This is the challenge. 284 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,440 In Syria, women have always been visible in public life. 285 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,760 Many now want to be part of this moment of sweeping change. 286 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,760 Do you think you bring something different to your job 287 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,480 because you are a woman? 288 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,440 Er, you know what? 289 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,080 With no diplomacy here, yes. 290 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,200 But you're lonely there. 291 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,320 You're the only woman in the government. You're dominat... 292 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,800 You're surrounded by the men who are leading. 293 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,640 No, actually... Who are in charge. Actually, I surround them. 294 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,080 Really? Don't underestimate the power of woman. 295 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,960 The president is very supportive of us. 296 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,640 I have the full authority to do 297 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,720 whatever I want in my ministry. 298 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,720 They respect what I do, and I want to have more women 299 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,480 in there, in the cabinet. 300 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,720 Today the minister takes her team to Idlib, 301 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,080 the former rebel stronghold of the men now in charge. 302 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,280 14 years of war left many wounds. 303 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,720 This is one. 304 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,200 Hundreds of thousands of displaced people 305 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,400 still languish in camps like this. 306 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,000 Hind is here to hear their stories. 307 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,120 Families live in flimsy tents 308 00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:40,840 in pain, poverty, and no aid from anyone. 309 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,760 Hind throws it back to them. 310 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,680 A minister unable to offer much aid, 311 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,760 except to try to help people help themselves. 312 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,720 Do you fear that people's patience will run out? 313 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,200 Of course, and they're right. 314 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,440 You put yourself into their shoes. 315 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,240 And we don't have the money. 316 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,920 And if we don't have united effort 317 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,880 from the international community to help at least 318 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,160 building some houses for those people, 319 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,280 because this is hard for them... 320 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,600 What members of the international community say is, 321 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,440 the government is too slow, 322 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,440 that you're not moving quickly enough on establishing 323 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,280 a new legal framework, on transparency. 324 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,280 We are moving, but you have to understand 325 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,000 it's only one year now. 326 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,960 We get a country that's been completely destroyed. 327 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:51,040 There are still long shadows at the start of Syria's new day - 328 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,800 a country some call a mosaic. 329 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,800 Many traditions and sects. 330 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,560 War created deep cracks. 331 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,440 Some fear they're getting worse. 332 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,240 Alawites, Druze, Kurds, all accuse Syria's new leaders - 333 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,200 former fighters, all Sunni Muslims - 334 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,240 of turning their guns against them. 335 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:18,880 In the past year, there was this massacre in the coastal areas. 336 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,680 1,400 people killed. 337 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,760 And the inquiry said possible war crimes were committed. 338 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,160 Again, violence in the south against the Druze. 339 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,720 This has opened a wound. 340 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,000 Did the government make mistakes in how it responded? 341 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,680 Mistakes happen in transition, in post-conflict. 342 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,040 But more than just mistakes? 343 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,640 Yeah, but...but what happened, immediately, 344 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,920 there is a commission to inqui... A commission of inquiry. 345 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,120 There is investigation. And I know now so many of those 346 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:53,480 who committed those crimes are in prison. 347 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,320 Am I happy about it? Of course not. 348 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,560 Not even the president. Everyone, we're not happy. 349 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,160 Syria's scars run deep - 350 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,240 entire neighbourhoods wiped out by war. 351 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,200 Some of the worst fighting was here, on the edges of the capital. 352 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:18,000 I came to Jobar with Fawzia al Assad, a civil society activist. 353 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,920 She's focused on the most painful of issues 354 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,520 for many ministries, including Hind's. 355 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:47,840 Fawzia shows me images on her phone of her effort to heal these wounds. 356 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:53,240 Truth tents, they're called - a space where Syrians meet every month 357 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,200 to share their photos, their stories. 358 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,040 Fawzia has her own. 359 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,000 Her father, Khalid, 360 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,560 detained on October 21st, 2012. 361 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,080 When the regime fell, only a confirmation came. 362 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,400 He was dead. 363 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,480 Uncle Abdul Karim had been taken, too, that same year, 364 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,960 one month later. 365 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,600 And Uncle Khalid. 366 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,520 But no-one seems to know what happened to them. 367 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,480 Are you getting any support at all from the government? 368 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,840 And what about the Ministry of Social Affairs and Labour, 369 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,520 with Hind Kabawat? Have you gone there? 370 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,440 Syrians want answers and action. 371 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,040 Hind says it's a priority, but so much else is, too. 372 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,480 Home. 373 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,720 Hind's family home - 374 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,000 a place to refresh, to reflect. 375 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,240 Is there one moment in this last year 376 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,440 where you came home, you thought, 377 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,680 "I just...I just can't...can't do it"? 378 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,720 I see the suffering of the people post-conflict. 379 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,800 I see the suffering of the women who lost their children. 380 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,480 And I feel responsible. 381 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,880 I feel responsible for their pain. 382 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,280 Sometimes I say, "Why did I do this?" 383 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,200 But...but in the end, I say, "If I don't serve them now... 384 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,160 "..I will have more tears later." 385 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,520 So tears at home. 386 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:13,280 Feeling that sometimes I don't have the resource to...to help everybody. 387 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,200 That's...that's the only time I feel like, er... 388 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,360 .."Why did I do this?" Yeah. 389 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:27,240 CHEERING 390 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,160 Syrians still celebrate the end of decades of dictatorship. 391 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,680 ULULATION 392 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,880 A year is a short time to move from war to peace. 393 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,320 But Syrians now want to see clearer signs 394 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,720 that this is a new start. 395 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,640 Thank you for joining us here in Syria. 396 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,400 We like receiving your feedback, 397 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,000 so let us know what you think on social media 398 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,840 Goodbye for now. 31688

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