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Hello and welcome to Global Eye
from the BBC World Service.
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In the next half hour,
we'll bring you some of the best
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of our global investigative
journalism and reportage.
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I'm Nomsa Maseko, the BBC's
Southern Africa Correspondent,
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and I'm based here in South Africa,
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which recently hosted leaders from
around the world for the G20 summit.
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Here in Johannesburg,
South Africa's economic heartland,
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the Government has been
giving the city a makeover,
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filling in potholes,
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fixing traffic lights
and painting buildings
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in preparation for the summit.
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Yet beneath the fresh coat of paint,
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the gathering has become
a lightning rod for anger,
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exposing deep-seated
social dysfunction,
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racial divisions
and economic deprivation
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that many residents feel
have been ignored for far too long.
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Later in the programme,
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BBC Eye investigates the reality
just a few miles from the G20 venue,
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where people live
in derelict buildings,
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often hijacked by criminal gangs
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and in conditions
unfit for human habitation.
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And President Trump
refused to attend the G20
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due to the widely discredited claim
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Afrikaners are the victims
of white genocide.
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Are South Africa's
white minority
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really victims of large-scale
killings and land grabs?
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I mean, you see a lot of things
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in the last few years
that's been brutal -
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murder and torture
and all that kind of stuff.
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I don't want that to happen with us.
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Here in South Africa's
biggest and richest city,
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there's always been
a stark contrast
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between the haves and the have-nots.
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Shimmering skyscrapers have long
stood alongside festering slums.
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And, of course,
the apartheid regime
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added a brutal racial dimension
to the economic divides.
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South Africa hadn't hosted
an international event on the scale
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of the G20 since
the 2010 FIFA World Cup.
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Officials here hoped that the summit
would allow the country to champion
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issues vital to developing nations,
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making borrowing cheaper
for countries
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that pay two to four times more
in interest than richer nations,
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and persuading leaders
to scale up spending
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on climate disaster resilience.
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But despite attempts to downplay it,
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the meeting was dominated
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by Donald Trump's very public
decision not to attend.
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The contrast between
global diplomacy and local reality
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is stark in Johannesburg itself.
Its central business district,
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once a symbol of wealth
and power during the apartheid era,
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fell into decline
after big businesses moved out.
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Over time, gangs moved in.
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BBC Eye has gained unprecedented
access to these buildings
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to uncover a story of organised
crime, political corruption
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and squalid living conditions
that shame this city.
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Here's Ayanda Charlie's report.
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Johannesburg's inner city
stands on the brink of collapse.
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Once a symbol of ambition, it has
become a wasteland of neglect.
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In an area of only
seven square miles,
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there are hundreds of derelict
or abandoned buildings.
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A vast number of these buildings
are infested with crime...
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They hide here.
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..and are unfit
for human habitation.
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Can the City of Johannesburg
be saved?
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Or is it an impossible dream?
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Ever since I've lived in Joburg,
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a lot of what I would hear
is that, you know,
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"Be careful when
you're in the inner city."
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You know, "Watch your back, keep
your belongings close to yourself
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"because you might most likely
get pickpocketed."
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Uh... Or mugged.
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There's a lot of criminal activity,
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drug use, lots of homelessness
in the inner city.
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It's not a place you go mindlessly.
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We are not going to be apologetic.
Once we say building is hijacked,
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it means a crime has been committed.
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Under South Africa's constitution,
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everyone has a right
to adequate housing.
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So, basically, today we disconnect
hijacked buildings
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across Jeppestown area.
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But for as long as I can remember,
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the city has been spiralling
out of control.
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See what you found here.
The needles.
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We're driving into Hillbrow,
a no-go zone for most people...
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SIREN WAILS
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..where the murder rate ranks
in the top 1% in the world.
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We're headed to a notorious
city-owned abandoned building
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called Vannin Court.
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All right, I lead the way,
you go behind me?
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INDISTINCT CHAT
Perfect.
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Around 300 people
live in Vannin Court.
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The people are running away
from me immediately.
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Good, thank you.
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One young man has agreed
to show me around.
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Take me from floor to floor
and show me around. Yeah.
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No water? No water. No electricity.
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OK.
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Bedroom.
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Lounge, OK.
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I'm taken to an apartment
on the ground floor.
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So this is your room.
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Oh, this is your kitchen area?
Yeah, it's my kitchen.
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The municipality
is saying anything about...
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So, why don't you have water? What
have they said? Let me ask you that.
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OK.
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OK.
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As this building
is owned by the city,
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under normal circumstances, it would
receive income from tenants' rent.
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So you pay how much?
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Oh. How does that work?
How come you don't have to pay?
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So you charge people
to live in this unit?
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Another guy collect the money?
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Yes. That's what
I'm trying to understand.
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Hijacked buildings like this one
are a common phenomenon
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in which occupants take control
of a building
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and collect rent for themselves.
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So this is the toilet?
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But there's no plumbing system.
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Or does it work?
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So everything flushes down properly?
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The basement, once a car park,
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is down these stairs,
but no-one wants to take me.
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So this is the basement.
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Human waste is literally
filling the basement up...
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So that's the smell?
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..overflowing
into the adjacent alleyway.
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The sewage situation
is worse than I thought,
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but I've walked past, driven past
those parts of the city
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so many times, and you can smell it.
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But these are permanent
broken sewage systems and pipes.
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And people live there permanently.
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So the only time you
get attention from the city council
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is when it's election time.
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Nelson Khetani
lives just a mile away
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in a building owned by the city
called MBV1.
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This building is a rare example
of temporary accommodation
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provided when the city did
evict people from another building.
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So this used to be,
like, a laundry area?
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Wow.
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Human waste.
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So what happened here?
Did the pipes...?
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So what do you do?
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The shocking thing is,
Nelson and his fellow residents
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were moved here way back in 2008
from a building called San Jose.
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He still pays rent to the city,
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but his so-called
temporary accommodation
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has continued for 17 years.
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If you were to compare
this building to San Jose,
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would you say
this is better or worse?
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Residents like Nelson
feel abandoned
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and are left to rue
the city's broken promises.
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When you ask the city
where the permanent accommodation
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you were supposed to be moved into
is, what do they say?
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City has no money. There's no money.
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According to a recent report,
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more than three-quarters
of so-called bad buildings
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have no water, sanitation,
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refuse removal or electricity.
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But how did we get here?
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Johannesburg, The City of Gold,
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has always been known
as the financial
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and industrial centre
of South Africa.
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But by the 1990s, the inner city
was in steady decline,
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barely sustaining the white minority
it had once been designed for.
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When apartheid fell, Johannesburg
became legally open to all races.
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A huge population influx,
combined with underinvestment
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and the departure
of wealthy landlords,
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placed immense pressure
on the inner city.
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Buildings fell into disrepair
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and became havens
for illegal activity.
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When I started making this film,
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I thought it was about
abandoned buildings,
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but I now see
it's about abandoned people,
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and I've come to realise that
when the state becomes neglectful,
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that's when criminals can prosper.
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We're on our way right now
to meet a man who says
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that he used to be
a building hijacker.
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Now, this is the first time
he's ever told his story,
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and he's agreed to speak with us on
condition that we hide his identity.
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So how did you get into the building
hijacking business?
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Mm.
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When you were in that building,
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was there ever any notice
of eviction?
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Led to anything.
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And then what happened?
If they're not willing...
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And you would have to
go and intimidate them, scare them.
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What else?
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You were involved in the drug trade.
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You were involved
in hijacking buildings.
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You did cause misery
to a lot of people.
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So how do you feel about that?
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After the interview, this
ex-hijacker told me he left the gang
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because he discovered
they were plotting to kill him.
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He also shared his relief
at leaving a criminal life
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and moving out of the city.
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The city council spokesman,
Nthatisi Modingoane,
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has agreed to meet me
at the Moth Building
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to discuss some of these claims.
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The council did manage
to clear this city-owned building
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in December 2024, evacuating
the occupants on safety grounds.
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But it's the only evacuation they've
completed in the last ten months.
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So far in our investigation,
we've heard claims from people
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that there are very concerning
criminal activity,
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high-level criminal activity there,
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like the drug trade,
in some of these hijacked buildings.
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What is the city doing to crack down
on those criminal forces?
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Yes. In some of the buildings,
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some of the things that we see
there are scary, to say the least.
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But we will intensify
our operations
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and make sure that
we clean the city.
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There have been operations
where we found people with drugs.
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We have found people
with illegal weapons.
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And those cases
are currently sitting with
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the South African Police Services
for further investigation.
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We've also heard claims
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that certain parts of
the Government and the police,
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in fact, are being bribed
and are somehow colluding
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with criminals
and building hijackers
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in the city to stall
the justice system, essentially.
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What do you know about that?
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In our investigation thus far,
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we have not had any physical
reports or credible reports
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that seems to suggest that
there might be any wrongdoing.
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Under South Africa's constitution,
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in theory, everyone has the right
to adequate housing,
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but the city needs to do far more
to turn that into a reality.
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We contacted the Johannesburg police
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and asked them if they were aware
of any bribes,
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intimidatory tactics
or even murders by criminals
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to prevent officers
from carrying out their duties.
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They did not reply.
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We also asked the city council
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about cutting off
the water supply at Vannin Court.
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They did not respond.
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Apartheid - the almost 50 years
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of institutionalised
racial segregation has left
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a deep and bitter legacy
across this nation.
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Under that political system,
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marriages were banned
across racial lines,
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many skilled and semi-skilled jobs
were reserved for white people,
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and black people were forced to live
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in what were called
townships and homelands.
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The shift from minority rule
to democracy in 1994
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left many white South Africans
struggling to adjust.
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Some claim they are now being
driven out by violent crime,
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economic decline and the looming
threat of land expropriation.
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Among some right-wing groups,
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this narrative has been adopted
as proof of a white genocide,
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an assertion that has repeatedly
been debunked
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by the facts and statistics,
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and rejected by
South Africa's Government
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and senior Afrikaner officials.
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Since he returned
to the White House,
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the narrative has also been promoted
by President Trump.
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As he closed America's door
to almost all refugees,
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he opened it for one group
in particular -
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white South Africans.
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For BBC Eye,
Claire Mawisa has been following
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a group of white South Africans
caught in the storm of ideology,
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fear and migration politics,
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as she asks what truth, if any,
lies behind the rhetoric.
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It's a genocide that's taking place
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that you people don't want
to write about,
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but it's a terrible thing
that's taking place.
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And farmers are being killed.
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They happen to be white,
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but whether they're white or black
makes no difference to me.
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I'm about to sign some
very important executive orders
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of our new administration.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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In February 2025, Donald Trump
signed an executive order
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offering white Afrikaners
refugee status in America.
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He claimed Afrikaner land
was being taken
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by the South African Government
without compensation.
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A month later, the US cut most
foreign aid to South Africa.
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I've come to the town of Brits,
just an hour's drive from Pretoria.
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I want to meet some of the people
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who are hoping to leave
South Africa,
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to try and understand
what is pushing them to leave.
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Hi, Carlien. Hi, nice to meet you.
Claire. I'm very well, thank you.
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Hello, hello. And you must be...?
James. Nice to meet you, James.
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My name is Claire.
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Thank you so much
for having me, guys.
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Carlien is applying for
refugee status to the United States
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for herself and her three
youngest children.
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Carlien and her family came
to Brits after the farm
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they were living on
was broken into and robbed.
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Fortunately, they weren't at home.
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Now 17, Stephen has almost
finished school.
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I want to go work in America
to do farming.
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I want to go in farming
because I love farming.
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It's a passion of mine since small.
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Why didn't you want to become
a farmer in South Africa?
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It's dangerous here
to become a farmer.
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And it's...
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It's just not the...
It's not worth it
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to become a farmer here
and risk it to get maybe attacked.
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Carlien has been unemployed
for ten years.
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She scrapes a living
selling clothes online.
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The situation with our crime,
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every morning
when they go to school,
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I worry -
I worry, is something happening?
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Are they going to be OK?
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We don't know, tonight. Someone...
Someone can break in tonight.
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I'm on my way to a farm
in Free State Province.
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I'm meeting farm manager Marthinus.
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I mean, you see a lot of things that
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in the last few years that's been
brutally murdered
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and tortured
and all that kind of stuff.
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I mean, you don't want to...
I don't want that to happen with us.
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Marthinus is speaking
from bitter experience.
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Both his wife's grandfather
and his own grandfather
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were murdered in farm attacks.
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They came into my grandpa's bedroom.
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He had a shotgun next to his bed.
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And then when he grabbed the shotgun
and he wants to aim him,
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the guy took the shotgun.
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I think he was 72 or 70 years old
or something like that.
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In February, Marthinus applied
to become a refugee
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in the United States.
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He and his family
have been interviewed
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by the State Department
and are now awaiting the verdict.
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Does the thought of leaving
South Africa,
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does that break your heart?
Does that make you sad?
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Yes, that makes me really sad.
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I mean, I've been born
and raised here,
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you know,
but I'm prepared to do that,
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to get a better life
for my wife and children.
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Because I don't
want to be slaughtered
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and be hanged or whatever, you know?
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No, I don't want that.
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No nation state
or international court,
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and none of South Africa's
political parties,
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including those
representing Afrikaners,
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claim there is a genocide
in South Africa.
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But it seems that murders on farms
are fuelling a conspiracy theory.
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I want to find out how prevalent
they really are.
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Are white farmers more at risk
of facing violence or crime
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on their farms than black farmers?
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I will not say it's only
the white farmers.
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There's also black farmers
and black workers
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and foremen and people residing
on farms get targeted.
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Over 30 years after apartheid,
72% of privately owned farmland
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is still white-owned.
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Despite the land reform laws,
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no white properties have been
forcibly seized by the Government.
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Black or white, many of the farmers
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in this area have experienced
a violent robbery.
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I'm on my way to meet Catherine.
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She has a farm and a polo school.
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Originally from England,
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she came to South Africa
25 years ago
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and fell in love with the place.
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She's lived here ever since.
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I'm Claire. Yes.
Catherine, nice to meet you.
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One night in 2021, men came
uninvited onto her property.
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Well, I thought I was going to die
that evening.
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But, you know,
they'd actually come to steal.
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That's why they were here, to steal.
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Do you think it's accurate to say
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that white Afrikaners
or white farm owners
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are being intentionally attacked
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because they are white Afrikaners?
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The reason why farm attacks happen
is essentially because of theft.
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Most of the farms
are owned by whites,
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so inevitably it's whites
that suffer from those attacks.
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But there are plenty
of rich black farmers
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who also suffer attacks.
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This story about a white genocide
is absolutely absurd.
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The story that is out there
is that there's
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a white genocide happening
in South Africa.
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That's the story that's out there.
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It's an inaccurate story.
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There are shootings every week
in a township.
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There are assaults every week
in the township.
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People have lost count.
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Communities don't report things
to the police.
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It's just like they're numb
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to the crime that's happening
in their own environment.
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Is there crime happening on farms
in South Africa? Absolutely.
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Have Afrikaners experienced
that violent crime
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on their properties? Absolutely.
Nobody's denying that.
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But, wow, at a...
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..on a whole other scale,
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crime is happening in townships
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where mostly black people
are living.
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The divisions created
by apartheid continue
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to run deep
in South African society.
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And nowhere is that more clear
than within families.
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Hello, hello. How are you?
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While Carlien is determined
to seek asylum in America,
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her daughter Wilma wants to stay.
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Your mother's expressed interest,
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and she's in the process
of wanting to go to America.
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What are your thoughts
and feelings about that decision?
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I'm happy for them,
and I hope it works.
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And I hope they can do it
and they can start a new life,
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um, you know,
and get out of this country,
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because it doesn't look hopeful.
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President Trump has said that
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there's a white genocide
going on in South Africa,
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and he wants to help
the Afrikaners escape South Africa.
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What are your thoughts and opinions?
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They can call it a white genocide
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because most white people
own farmland.
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But there's so much crime
in South Africa -
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if you're black,
if you're white, doesn't matter.
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So it's affecting everyone equally.
Everyone equally.
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In October, the US set
a refugee cap of just 7,500,
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reserving most spots for Afrikaners.
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OK.
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Carlien submitted her application
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and has been advised
to complete more paperwork.
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Marthinus and his family
have now been granted refugee status
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and are preparing to move
to the United States.
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Now, here's some other great content
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from the BBC World Service
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that will also appear in vision on
the World Service YouTube channel.
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on everything from tech trends
to clean energy.
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Since Singapore achieved its
independence in 1965 from Malaysia,
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it has had one of the highest
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helped by its strategic location
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and time-zone advantage
for the Eastern and Western world.
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Singapore is one of the world's
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most densely populated countries,
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where we have in-depth discussions
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as well as the unexpected
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unpacked by those who know it best.
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Thanks for joining me
in South Africa.
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We want your feedback on Global Eye.
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Let us know what you think
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Goodbye.
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