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Oh, did you hear that?
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What the hell is that?
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On this episode
of "Expedition X"...
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Here we go!
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Heather and Phil
take to the air...
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Woo-hoo-hoo!
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...investigating frightening
reports of a legendary
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avian monster known
as the "Thunderbird."
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There's hardly anything
on the face of this earth
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that scares me...
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but that did.
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He had
his eye on you.
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Yes.
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The team will scale
great heights...
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I got you.
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...uncovering
remarkable evidence...
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- This is huge.
- What?
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...as they hunt
for the terror of the skies.
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You see anything?
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So, you guys know
I'm all about the creatures.
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- We know, Phil.
- Yeah.
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Try being stuck in a car
with him for eight hours.
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"Let me tell you about Spain's
lesser-spotted fire lizard."
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Heather, how many times
did I tell you on that drive?
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It is a fire salamander,
not a lizard.
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- Oh, boy.
- She never listens.
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Oh, boy.
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But I got something that
you definitely are gonna
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want to listen to now,
because I came across some very
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interesting, new audio evidence
that some people are linking
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to an ancient
Native American myth.
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So this is recorded
on this woman's porch cam,
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and you're gonna hear
some normal bird songs.
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But what you want to pay
attention to is this strange,
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low-pitched sound combined
with this descending whistle
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at the end of the clip.
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You're also gonna hear
the homeowner react,
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because she's never heard
anything like this before.
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OK.
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So that's a cardinal.
But that...
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Hm.
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That low sound,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
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She's looking around, trying
to figure out what it is.
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Dude, that's, like,
not kids messing around.
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What is that?
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That's, like, working
the dogs up.
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Whoa.
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- What is that?
- I gotta say, I've never heard
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a bird call like this before.
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Now, this particular recording
was captured in
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the Allegheny Mountains
of Pennsylvania.
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And in this region,
over the last few years,
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there's been a spate
of sightings of a very large,
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unidentified bird of prey that's
led many people in the region
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to suspect, including this
woman, that it could
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be a Thunderbird.
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You mean the giant bird
from Native American folklore?
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That's the one.
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It supposedly has a 30-foot
wingspan, resembles a giant
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eagle, and can
command the storms.
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It is a potent mythical being.
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I am very familiar
with this story.
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I actually went looking for
the Thunderbird many years ago
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in Alaska, because there had
been a whole raft of sightings
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there as well.
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And I've always associated
this creature with that region
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in the Pacific Northwest
in general.
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But this clip and these other
encounters you mentioned are
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coming out of
a different region entirely.
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And so it seems that
the Thunderbird may be
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kicking up a storm
over the skies of Pennsylvania.
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For thousands of years,
generations of Native Americans
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have shared stories of
a massive, winged creature known
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as the "Thunderbird."
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The specifics vary, but some of
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its supernatural aspects
are universal.
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It's said to create thunder
with the flapping of its wings
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and casts lightning
from its eyes.
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Some indigenous people see
the powerful Thunderbird
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as a protective spirit
that can divert a storm
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or heal sickness.
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Others say the creature is
an omen of war and danger.
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But for some,
the Thunderbird is much more
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than a myth.
It's a real-life monster.
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In 1890, an article in
Arizona's "Tombstone Epitaph"
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describes two ranchers shooting
and killing a mysterious bird
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in the Sonoran Desert.
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The beast is described as
having a wingspan of 160 feet.
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Illinois, July 25th, 1977.
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Ten-year-old Marlon Lowe is
playing with friends when
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something casts a giant shadow
over his backyard.
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Within seconds, a massive bird
snatches Marlon in its talons,
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carrying the boy 35 feet
through the air.
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As it attempts to fly off,
the boy's mother, Ruth,
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wages a tug-of-war
with the beast
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until it relents
and lets him go.
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In 2021, a Pennsylvania woman
reports spotting a bird
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of unimaginable size perched
atop the chimney
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of an office building.
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As she tries to photograph
the colossal creature,
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it swoops down at her,
talons extended.
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She barely makes it
into the building to escape.
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When authorities attempt
to verify the woman's claims,
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they discover several bricks
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have been torn from the chimney.
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Now, a recent surge in
sightings points to a hot-spot
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of supposed Thunderbird activity
in the Allegheny Mountains
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along Pennsylvania's
Chestnut Ridge.
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Locals describe aggressive
birds with wingspans
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up to 10 times the size
of a bald eagle.
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Ranchers in the area
have reported
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livestock disappearing
without a trace.
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And most shocking of all,
last month, a trucker claims
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his rig was almost lifted off
the ground by one of these
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monster birds.
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But what's really
going on here?
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Has the legendary Thunderbird
truly taken flight
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in Western Pennsylvania?
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Just to be clear, I am not
saying there is a giant
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monster bird out there firing
lightning bolts from its eyes.
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- That's what I heard you say.
- Uh-huh.
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But there definitely could be
a large avian predator that has
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yet to be documented.
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I mean, just a couple years
ago, there was
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a Steller's sea eagle
found in Texas.
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This is a massive bird,
seven to eight-foot wingspan
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that is normally found
in Northeastern Asia,
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6,000 miles away.
So, anything's possible.
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I've always been fascinated
by this story, partially because
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the Thunderbird mythology is
so rich, but also because
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you do have these people
stepping forward
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claiming to see a flying,
unidentified something.
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So, what do you think?
Real deal or for the birds?
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I get how it could sound
far-fetched that there's
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a Thunderbird in Pennsylvania,
but the eyewitness reports are
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real, that audio is real,
and people are
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seeing something.
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So we got to go in
with an open mind.
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And we've investigated a lot
of land-based cryptids, so this
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time investigating one
that's in the air,
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it's gonna be fascinating.
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And it's not going to be easy,
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and I don't know how
we're gonna do it,
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but I'm definitely in.
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All right, sounds like
we're all agreed.
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The mission is to get
to Pennsylvania.
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Start by interviewing this
trucker who claims his rig was
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attacked from the skies.
Is it a Thunderbird?
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Is it misidentification?
Is it an unknown species?
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See if you can get
a bird's-eye view of the truth.
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- Ka-kaw!
- What was that?
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It's Thunderbird
for "Hell, yeah."
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Oh, sorry, I don't
speak Thunderbird.
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The flight from New York
to Pittsburgh is
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just over an hour.
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The team then hits the road for
a two-hour drive along Route 30
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to the area where our witness
had his shocking encounter.
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Looks like
there's our guy.
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All right.
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Hey, Fred.
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Veteran and trucker Fred Stull
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has driven America's highways
for decades.
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He thought he'd seen it all,
until he recently crossed paths
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with something beyond belief.
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So this is Highway 30.
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It was around here that
you saw whatever you saw.
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Yeah, but this is, like,
the first time I've ever talked
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publicly about it.
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Can you tell us
what happened to you?
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Well, it was about
4 o'clock in the morning.
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Just started work.
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Going up Route 30
over the mountain.
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I was coming up the hill.
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My lights were shining
up in the air.
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This enormous bird thing
come out of the southeast.
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I literally thought
it was gonna take
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the top of my truck off.
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How big
was this thing?
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I'd say the wingspan
was 60 to 80 feet.
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- 60 to 80 feet?
- At least.
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The width of the wing literally
covered my whole tractor.
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I mean, you gotta understand
how for someone hearing that,
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that sounds kind
of unbelievable.
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I really don't care
what people think.
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- Mm-hmm.
- I've seen what I've seen.
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What'd you do after
you saw this thing?
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I got out of there
as fast as I could.
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I didn't care where it went.
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I did not want to see it again.
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- So this thing scared you?
- Yes, it did.
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Believe me, I've seen a lot
of stuff, running up and down
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these roads for 25 years
and being in the military.
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And there's hardly anything
on the face of this earth
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that scares me,
but that did.
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So in that moment,
what did you think it was?
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I had no idea.
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First place I was able
to pull over, I called my wife.
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She says, "You've seen what
they call the Thunderbird."
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And I asked her,
I said, "What is it?"
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You know,
I'd never heard of it.
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I guess it's some kind
of mythical legend, but...
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it's not mythical.
It's real.
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Have you heard of anyone else
seeing something like it?
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I've heard rumors where guys
have 1,200-pound cows
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come up missing.
- Wow.
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Just disappeared.
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No tracks around,
and nothing drug it out.
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So it's something huge
had to pick it up.
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- Maybe a Thunderbird.
- That's what I would say.
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Where do you think we should
focus our search if we want
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to try to get eyes
on it ourselves?
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I would start where Route 30
crosses Chestnut Ridge
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and Laurel Ridge after it.
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Between them two ridges,
it's nothing but forest,
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mountains and that,
and nobody knows
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what's up in the woods.
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Fred, thank you
for sharing your story.
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Thank you so much.
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Be real careful and take
very good precautions.
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- Yes, sir.
- You got it.
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Fred's given us a lot
of ground to cover.
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Highway 30 runs through
15 miles of wilderness between
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Laurel Ridge, where Fred
had his experience,
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and Chestnut Ridge,
where our video of that eerie
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bird call was captured.
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If we're gonna cover
the territory of a giant bird,
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we had a suitably giant idea.
Why not fly like one?
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Gliders don't use engines.
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They ride the same thermal
currents that large birds
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of prey like hawks
and eagles use.
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Gliders are also almost
completely silent, making them
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the perfect perch to spot birds,
monstrous or otherwise,
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in action.
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All right, Heather.
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- See you up there.
- All right, have fun.
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Heather and I will launch
separately, being towed
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by a plane to 4,000 feet
before being released.
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Closed.
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Since we'll be constantly
on the lookout for giant nests
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and anything else unusual that
could point to a Thunderbird,
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we're each joined in
the cockpit by an experienced
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glider pilot.
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They'll stay focused
on keeping us flying,
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while we scan
our surroundings.
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If we spot anything out of
the ordinary, we'll log the GPS
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coordinates for a follow-up.
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Here we go!
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Hell yeah!
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We're in the air.
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00:11:59,886 --> 00:12:01,762
This is incredible.
251
00:12:01,763 --> 00:12:03,097
Look at this view!
252
00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:05,725
Hey, Phil, look to your left.
253
00:12:06,935 --> 00:12:08,895
Oh, hey.
Good to see you.
254
00:12:09,020 --> 00:12:10,896
What are you doing up here?
255
00:12:10,897 --> 00:12:11,898
Oh, just hanging out.
256
00:12:13,107 --> 00:12:14,107
OK.
Ready?
257
00:12:14,108 --> 00:12:16,443
- .
- All right, Heather.
258
00:12:16,444 --> 00:12:18,278
We're gonna be released.
Ready?
259
00:12:18,279 --> 00:12:19,571
Copy.
I got eyes on you.
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00:12:19,572 --> 00:12:21,574
3, 2, 1.
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00:12:23,993 --> 00:12:25,703
Woo-hoo-hoo!
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Oh, and we're away.
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00:12:34,671 --> 00:12:36,714
Wow!
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00:12:36,839 --> 00:12:38,716
Ah!
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00:12:38,841 --> 00:12:40,384
Oh, my God.
266
00:12:40,385 --> 00:12:42,345
There we go.
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There we go, just us
in the air, harnessing that
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power of the thermals.
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If you are a large bird,
it takes an enormous amount
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of energy to fly.
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You would be doing exactly
what we are doing right now.
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00:12:56,943 --> 00:12:58,026
See that road down there?
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It's got to be Highway 30,
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cut right through
Chestnut Ridge.
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See that other set of ridges
off in the distance?
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That's got to be Laurel.
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00:13:04,826 --> 00:13:06,577
Well, you want to take Laurel,
and I'll take Chestnut?
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00:13:06,703 --> 00:13:07,912
Let's do it.
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00:13:08,037 --> 00:13:09,747
Copy that.
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00:13:09,872 --> 00:13:11,374
See that ridge over
to the left with that road
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00:13:11,499 --> 00:13:13,251
cutting through?
- Yep.
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00:13:13,376 --> 00:13:14,960
Is there a way we could
do a little turn?
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00:13:14,961 --> 00:13:16,045
Sure.
284
00:13:19,966 --> 00:13:21,926
Now, remember
what we're looking for.
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Anything down below,
large stick structures
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00:13:24,095 --> 00:13:27,265
at the top of the trees,
that could indicate a nest.
287
00:13:27,390 --> 00:13:30,475
Anything above us that is
the same size or bigger.
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00:13:30,476 --> 00:13:31,811
Copy that.
I got my eyes peeled.
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00:13:35,398 --> 00:13:38,150
The American bald eagle
has the largest bird nest
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00:13:38,151 --> 00:13:41,278
in the entire world,
building huge, typically
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00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:45,074
nine feet wide, 12 feet tall,
stick structures.
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00:13:45,199 --> 00:13:48,118
But if a Thunderbird is really
the largest thing in the skies,
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00:13:48,119 --> 00:13:52,165
as the stories say, that means
its nest would be even bigger.
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00:13:53,458 --> 00:13:56,168
So, even though we're a mile
high right now, we should be
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able to see a nest
from the sky.
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00:13:58,921 --> 00:14:00,506
We can see for miles.
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00:14:02,258 --> 00:14:05,635
Our wingspan is
roughly 55 feet.
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00:14:05,636 --> 00:14:09,473
Our witness told us that
the Thunderbird that he saw had
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a wingspan of 80 feet.
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00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:15,104
So, I'm keeping my eyes out for
anything as large as a glider.
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00:14:18,941 --> 00:14:20,359
Oh, I got something.
302
00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,402
To the right!
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00:14:22,779 --> 00:14:23,946
Straight ahead.
304
00:14:25,782 --> 00:14:27,949
I've got an interesting
stick structure I'm seeing
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00:14:27,950 --> 00:14:29,369
down below on top of a tree.
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00:14:31,245 --> 00:14:33,331
Heather, I think I see
our first potential nest.
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00:14:33,456 --> 00:14:34,582
Nice.
308
00:14:36,209 --> 00:14:37,627
I'm gonna mark
a GPS point.
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00:14:38,628 --> 00:14:40,463
Copy that.
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00:14:40,588 --> 00:14:42,298
Quarter mile east
of where we are right now.
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00:14:42,423 --> 00:14:44,509
We got something.
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00:14:44,634 --> 00:14:47,136
That is promising.
We're in the right spot.
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00:14:51,641 --> 00:14:54,226
After another hour of
searching, the nest I spotted
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00:14:54,227 --> 00:14:56,686
seems to be
our most promising lead.
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00:14:56,687 --> 00:14:59,731
So, we turn back
and start our descent.
316
00:14:59,732 --> 00:15:01,858
All right, Heather,
I'll head in first.
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00:15:01,859 --> 00:15:03,193
Copy that.
I got eyes on you.
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00:15:05,029 --> 00:15:06,489
Woo-wee!
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00:15:08,491 --> 00:15:09,492
Touchdown.
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00:15:11,661 --> 00:15:12,662
Coming in
for the landing.
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00:15:20,586 --> 00:15:21,587
All right, thank you.
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00:15:22,839 --> 00:15:26,049
- Nicely done, Glen.
- How about that?
323
00:15:26,050 --> 00:15:28,886
- Amazing.
- That was incredible,
324
00:15:29,011 --> 00:15:30,387
to be riding
those thermals.
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00:15:30,388 --> 00:15:31,514
- I know.
- I guess we know
326
00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:33,349
where we're heading next.
- Yeah, we do.
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00:15:36,185 --> 00:15:38,229
The coordinates I marked
fall on the foothills
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00:15:38,354 --> 00:15:42,023
of Laurel Ridge, just six miles
north of where Fred had
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00:15:42,024 --> 00:15:43,568
his strange encounter.
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00:15:45,820 --> 00:15:46,821
OK.
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00:15:48,197 --> 00:15:50,241
With the exception of owls,
all birds of prey
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00:15:50,366 --> 00:15:52,075
hunt during the day.
- This way.
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00:15:52,076 --> 00:15:53,411
All right.
334
00:15:53,536 --> 00:15:56,204
The largest, like eagles,
can hunt in an area
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00:15:56,205 --> 00:15:59,040
up to 15 square miles.
336
00:15:59,041 --> 00:16:02,794
The best chance we have of
finding a large, avian predator
337
00:16:02,795 --> 00:16:04,547
is when it's nesting at night.
338
00:16:05,756 --> 00:16:07,216
Hey, it's getting dark.
339
00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:10,553
How are we
looking on GPS?
340
00:16:10,678 --> 00:16:12,262
Should be
straight ahead of us.
341
00:16:12,263 --> 00:16:13,264
OK.
342
00:16:19,103 --> 00:16:20,562
- Hey.
- Yeah?
343
00:16:20,563 --> 00:16:23,232
We are 100 yards from that
possible structure you saw.
344
00:16:23,357 --> 00:16:25,442
Oh, yeah, we're almost
right on top of it.
345
00:16:25,443 --> 00:16:27,403
If there is something there,
I don't want to scare it away.
346
00:16:27,528 --> 00:16:30,155
So before we get any closer,
there is a new tool
347
00:16:30,156 --> 00:16:31,699
I want to use.
- OK.
348
00:16:33,409 --> 00:16:35,203
So, this is a ZEISS
thermal scope.
349
00:16:36,913 --> 00:16:39,789
Your average thermal camera can
only see maybe 50, 100 feet
350
00:16:39,790 --> 00:16:43,293
in front of you.
This can see up to a mile.
351
00:16:43,294 --> 00:16:44,920
- Cool.
- So near and far,
352
00:16:44,921 --> 00:16:46,297
if there's something
flying around or up
353
00:16:46,422 --> 00:16:48,590
in the trees, this thing
will get it.
354
00:16:48,591 --> 00:16:49,592
Here's hoping.
355
00:16:54,138 --> 00:16:55,139
Do you see anything?
356
00:17:00,144 --> 00:17:01,145
You ready to move in?
357
00:17:01,270 --> 00:17:02,313
Yeah.
358
00:17:02,438 --> 00:17:04,356
Let's go nice and slow.
359
00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:16,369
It's got to be
right in front of us.
360
00:17:22,291 --> 00:17:23,459
Oh, got something.
361
00:17:24,585 --> 00:17:25,627
What?
362
00:17:25,628 --> 00:17:28,505
It is a tangle
of branches up there.
363
00:17:28,506 --> 00:17:30,173
It's gotta be it.
364
00:17:30,174 --> 00:17:31,675
You think that's what you saw
from the glider?
365
00:17:31,676 --> 00:17:34,136
I think so.
It's glowing.
366
00:17:34,262 --> 00:17:36,973
- It's glowing?
- It's glowing warm.
367
00:17:37,098 --> 00:17:38,641
Which, if that's a nest,
368
00:17:39,642 --> 00:17:41,018
something could be
incubating in there.
369
00:17:44,272 --> 00:17:45,314
Should we get closer?
370
00:17:45,439 --> 00:17:46,731
Yeah.
371
00:17:46,732 --> 00:17:47,858
Quietly.
372
00:17:58,494 --> 00:18:00,495
No.
373
00:18:00,496 --> 00:18:01,497
Oh.
374
00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,334
It's a big, dead tree.
375
00:18:07,044 --> 00:18:09,380
Oh, no.
False lead?
376
00:18:10,423 --> 00:18:13,175
Well, marking GPS
from 4,000 feet isn't exact,
377
00:18:13,301 --> 00:18:16,220
so what I saw could still
be around here.
378
00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:18,388
OK, but that's clearly not
holding something the size
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00:18:18,389 --> 00:18:19,390
of a Thunderbird.
380
00:18:25,563 --> 00:18:26,564
Oh, my God.
381
00:18:28,524 --> 00:18:29,525
There's something
up there.
382
00:18:38,367 --> 00:18:39,660
Do you see anything?
383
00:18:45,583 --> 00:18:47,042
- Ahh!
- What the--?
384
00:18:47,043 --> 00:18:49,127
Something just
flew off there.
385
00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:51,213
Let's go.
386
00:18:58,596 --> 00:19:00,598
Where did it go?
387
00:19:00,723 --> 00:19:01,766
Do you see anything?
388
00:19:03,684 --> 00:19:06,020
I got nothing.
I think I lost it.
389
00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:12,276
Whatever it was,
it was sizable.
390
00:19:12,401 --> 00:19:14,569
- And in the treetops.
- Yes.
391
00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:16,321
Let's look around and see
if we can find any evidence.
392
00:19:16,322 --> 00:19:17,406
All right, OK.
393
00:19:18,574 --> 00:19:20,450
- Spread out a little bit?
- Yeah.
394
00:19:20,451 --> 00:19:21,452
OK, I'll take left.
395
00:19:27,083 --> 00:19:28,626
Oh, what is this?
396
00:19:30,252 --> 00:19:31,921
This is huge.
397
00:19:32,046 --> 00:19:33,881
Oh, my God.
398
00:19:39,845 --> 00:19:41,681
Heather, get over here.
399
00:19:41,806 --> 00:19:42,932
- What?
- Look.
400
00:19:44,433 --> 00:19:45,810
I think this is a bird pellet.
401
00:19:47,687 --> 00:19:49,230
Look above.
See that branch?
402
00:19:49,355 --> 00:19:52,524
This is exactly
what you would expect
403
00:19:52,525 --> 00:19:54,068
with a large bird of prey.
404
00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:55,902
They catch their food.
405
00:19:55,903 --> 00:19:58,906
They sit on a horizontal branch
and puke out
406
00:19:59,031 --> 00:20:00,615
the bones and the fur.
407
00:20:00,616 --> 00:20:02,534
And look what we got in here.
408
00:20:02,535 --> 00:20:04,119
You can see the bones
protruding through it.
409
00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:07,038
- That is a sizable prey.
- I've seen an owl pellet.
410
00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:10,041
- That looks way larger.
- Yes, it's huge!
411
00:20:10,042 --> 00:20:11,711
I've never seen
a pellet that big.
412
00:20:13,087 --> 00:20:15,880
If that's the biggest pellet
you've ever seen, what size
413
00:20:15,881 --> 00:20:18,926
bird are we talking about?
- Exactly.
414
00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:21,302
It must be massive.
415
00:20:21,303 --> 00:20:24,431
I mean, there are bald eagles
here, potentially
416
00:20:24,432 --> 00:20:27,809
a golden eagle, so maybe
something like that.
417
00:20:27,810 --> 00:20:30,603
But the beauty of pellets is
that you can reconstruct
418
00:20:30,604 --> 00:20:33,898
those bones and figure out
what the prey was.
419
00:20:33,899 --> 00:20:37,236
Are you using "beauty" and
"puke" in the same sentence?
420
00:20:37,361 --> 00:20:39,613
Hey, when it comes to the data
we can get from this thing,
421
00:20:39,739 --> 00:20:41,699
absolutely.
- OK.
422
00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:48,496
Whoa, it still feels wet.
423
00:20:48,497 --> 00:20:50,415
If it's still wet, that means
it's fresh, right?
424
00:20:50,416 --> 00:20:51,417
I'm gonna bag it up.
425
00:20:56,338 --> 00:20:57,589
It's a great find.
426
00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:59,925
Before we go, I'm thinking
if we put a camera trap on this
427
00:21:00,050 --> 00:21:02,802
tree angled up, we may be able
to catch whatever comes back
428
00:21:02,803 --> 00:21:04,305
to this branch.
- Good idea.
429
00:21:06,682 --> 00:21:08,601
Here,
you just angle it up.
430
00:21:08,726 --> 00:21:10,394
Yeah, it's perfect.
431
00:21:12,855 --> 00:21:13,856
It looks good.
432
00:21:15,566 --> 00:21:17,067
- OK, let's get moving.
- OK.
433
00:21:19,987 --> 00:21:22,489
Heather and I continue
searching for evidence,
434
00:21:22,490 --> 00:21:25,533
but it becomes clear that
whatever we were chasing has
435
00:21:25,534 --> 00:21:27,328
already flown the nest.
436
00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:30,121
The next morning, we check in
with Josh to update him
437
00:21:30,122 --> 00:21:32,332
on our investigation so far.
438
00:21:32,333 --> 00:21:35,669
Well, well, if it isn't
my avian associates.
439
00:21:35,795 --> 00:21:37,879
- Hey, Gates.
- How's it going out there?
440
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,299
- Or should I say up there?
- It's going great.
441
00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:44,345
We found the biggest bird
regurgitation pellets I have
442
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:46,805
ever seen.
- Phil, God bless you.
443
00:21:46,806 --> 00:21:49,016
You are the only man I know
that could get this excited
444
00:21:49,141 --> 00:21:50,142
about bird vomit.
445
00:21:50,267 --> 00:21:52,353
- He really is excited.
- I am.
446
00:21:52,478 --> 00:21:54,646
So I reached out
to a local bird expert.
447
00:21:54,647 --> 00:21:57,732
Her name is Katie Fallon,
and she studied how eagles,
448
00:21:57,733 --> 00:22:00,527
hawks, and falcons hunt prey.
449
00:22:00,528 --> 00:22:04,030
I want to use that know-how to
inform our next investigation.
450
00:22:04,031 --> 00:22:07,200
OK, well, while you're
checking out your puke nugget,
451
00:22:07,201 --> 00:22:09,702
I got another witness for you,
an Army veteran named
452
00:22:09,703 --> 00:22:13,373
Aaron Schachte, who claims
to have had multiple close calls
453
00:22:13,374 --> 00:22:16,251
with this terrifying creature
and thinks he knows where
454
00:22:16,252 --> 00:22:17,544
to find it.
- Amazing.
455
00:22:17,545 --> 00:22:18,753
I would love to meet him.
456
00:22:18,754 --> 00:22:19,839
All right, guys,
well, get to it.
457
00:22:19,964 --> 00:22:21,881
The early bird
catches the worm.
458
00:22:21,882 --> 00:22:22,967
- Bye, Gates.
- See ya.
459
00:22:26,387 --> 00:22:29,430
I'm heading to Chestnut Ridge,
where the eerie recording
460
00:22:29,431 --> 00:22:32,517
of the supposed Thunderbird was
made, to meet with a witness
461
00:22:32,518 --> 00:22:34,270
who may have a lead
on its whereabouts.
462
00:22:36,689 --> 00:22:39,732
Aaron Schachte has called
Pennsylvania home for decades,
463
00:22:39,733 --> 00:22:42,527
but lately, he suspects he's
been sharing his backyard
464
00:22:42,528 --> 00:22:44,321
with a monster from the skies.
465
00:22:45,406 --> 00:22:47,282
So we're here looking
for the Thunderbird,
466
00:22:47,283 --> 00:22:49,201
and I understand you've seen it
a couple of times.
467
00:22:49,326 --> 00:22:50,910
- Yes, I have.
- Walk me through that.
468
00:22:50,911 --> 00:22:54,205
The first time I seen it,
it was later afternoon.
469
00:22:54,206 --> 00:22:56,876
I just got done cutting
this here field.
470
00:22:57,001 --> 00:22:58,919
And I'm looking out there
at the end of that field,
471
00:22:59,044 --> 00:23:00,712
and I see a tree stump.
472
00:23:00,713 --> 00:23:03,756
And I'm wondering, "How is there
a tree stump in the middle
473
00:23:03,757 --> 00:23:05,925
of my field?
I just cut this."
474
00:23:05,926 --> 00:23:10,263
So I start walking up on it,
and I got maybe 40-some feet
475
00:23:10,264 --> 00:23:11,472
away from it.
476
00:23:11,473 --> 00:23:13,601
And I'm looking at it,
and I'm thinking, "It doesn't
477
00:23:13,726 --> 00:23:16,562
look like a tree stump anymore.
That's a bird."
478
00:23:16,687 --> 00:23:19,273
It was like this,
like a vampire.
479
00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:23,276
Then it pops its head up,
and it's looking at me, mad.
480
00:23:23,277 --> 00:23:25,571
Like, "Why are you here?
481
00:23:25,696 --> 00:23:27,989
You're invading my territory."
482
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:30,074
And it spreads its wings.
483
00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:34,287
It leans into the breeze like
a kite, and it goes one flap.
484
00:23:34,288 --> 00:23:35,289
It's up in the air.
485
00:23:37,833 --> 00:23:40,252
It starts coming right at me.
I'm like, "Jeez."
486
00:23:40,377 --> 00:23:42,296
So I duck to get
out of its way.
487
00:23:45,299 --> 00:23:46,841
Do you feel like he was
charging you?
488
00:23:46,842 --> 00:23:48,593
Yes.
He looked very mad
489
00:23:48,594 --> 00:23:50,011
when he was
looking at me.
490
00:23:50,012 --> 00:23:52,598
- This was his territory?
- This is his yard.
491
00:23:52,723 --> 00:23:54,975
So there was no way he was
another large bird?
492
00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:57,101
No-- we know
all the birds out here.
493
00:23:57,102 --> 00:24:00,813
We know the turkey buzzards,
the eagles, hawks.
494
00:24:00,814 --> 00:24:06,111
This was nothing like that,
not even in the same category.
495
00:24:06,236 --> 00:24:10,115
You're talking miniature,
and I'm talking monster.
496
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,451
It went up
into the air.
497
00:24:13,452 --> 00:24:16,121
And right over on this side,
there was turkey buzzards.
498
00:24:16,246 --> 00:24:19,499
They were doing circles,
and it went up there with them,
499
00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:23,378
and it made them look like
this big compared to my hand.
500
00:24:23,379 --> 00:24:25,130
That's how big he was.
501
00:24:25,255 --> 00:24:26,674
You think you were looking
at a Thunderbird?
502
00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:28,801
I never heard
of a Thunderbird before.
503
00:24:28,926 --> 00:24:30,094
I don't know what it was.
504
00:24:32,888 --> 00:24:34,806
I head to neighboring
West Virginia to visit
505
00:24:34,807 --> 00:24:38,310
the Avian Conservation Center
of Appalachia.
506
00:24:38,435 --> 00:24:40,520
- Hey, Katie.
- Hey, Phil.
507
00:24:40,521 --> 00:24:41,854
I'm just about
to feed the birds.
508
00:24:41,855 --> 00:24:42,897
Would you like to help?
509
00:24:42,898 --> 00:24:44,691
I would love to.
510
00:24:44,692 --> 00:24:47,361
Katie Fallon is a birds
of prey specialist with
511
00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:50,238
an encyclopedic knowledge
of the region's biggest
512
00:24:50,239 --> 00:24:51,572
avian predators.
513
00:24:51,573 --> 00:24:52,866
Here's some fish.
514
00:24:52,992 --> 00:24:54,242
Look at those talons.
515
00:24:54,243 --> 00:24:57,870
I'm hoping she can shed light
on what we've been chasing.
516
00:24:57,871 --> 00:25:00,081
Woo-hoo-hoo!
517
00:25:00,082 --> 00:25:02,668
Wow, you are beautiful.
518
00:25:04,586 --> 00:25:08,047
So we're looking into reports
of something absolutely massive
519
00:25:08,048 --> 00:25:09,550
that has been seen
flying around here.
520
00:25:09,675 --> 00:25:11,509
Some people are
saying it's Thunderbird,
521
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:13,220
and that's why I came to you.
522
00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:14,595
Tell me about the big birds
523
00:25:14,596 --> 00:25:16,389
that could be flying
around here.
524
00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:19,851
The giant birds flying around
here would be bald eagles,
525
00:25:19,852 --> 00:25:24,523
golden eagles, great horned
owls, turkey vultures.
526
00:25:24,648 --> 00:25:27,692
Biggest of those birds has
about a six-foot wingspan.
527
00:25:27,693 --> 00:25:29,361
It's interesting because
what people are describing,
528
00:25:29,486 --> 00:25:32,739
they say
60 to 80-foot wingspan.
529
00:25:32,740 --> 00:25:35,908
It's very difficult to judge
the size of a bird in flight.
530
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:38,369
Birds are often described
as being a lot bigger
531
00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:40,288
than they actually are.
532
00:25:40,289 --> 00:25:42,082
I'd like to play for you
an audio recording
533
00:25:42,207 --> 00:25:43,375
that we were sent.
- OK.
534
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:45,543
Because I'm still trying
to figure out what it is that
535
00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:46,962
this person was hearing.
536
00:25:55,179 --> 00:25:57,138
I'm not sure what that is.
537
00:25:57,139 --> 00:25:58,890
That's kind of how
I felt about it, too.
538
00:25:58,891 --> 00:26:00,601
I could not identify
that noise.
539
00:26:01,727 --> 00:26:02,936
There's one more thing
I want to show you.
540
00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:06,398
Something that we found
on the ground that looked
541
00:26:06,523 --> 00:26:09,275
suspiciously like a pellet.
542
00:26:09,276 --> 00:26:10,402
It does look like a pellet.
543
00:26:10,527 --> 00:26:11,944
- There's bones.
- Some of the fur.
544
00:26:11,945 --> 00:26:13,237
- Fur.
- Look at the size.
545
00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:15,073
There's my hand for comparison.
546
00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:16,282
I mean, it's a large pellet.
547
00:26:16,283 --> 00:26:18,243
It could be a great horned owl.
548
00:26:18,368 --> 00:26:19,912
Really?
They get that big?
549
00:26:20,037 --> 00:26:22,121
Well, possibly, I mean,
if a great horned owl
550
00:26:22,122 --> 00:26:24,332
ate something
that's very big,
551
00:26:24,333 --> 00:26:26,460
potentially large prey.
552
00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:28,753
But there's always the chance
that something from
553
00:26:28,754 --> 00:26:30,588
somewhere else
could have shown up.
554
00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:33,633
I mean, a Steller's sea eagle
was here in the U.S.
555
00:26:33,634 --> 00:26:35,468
No one could really explain
how it got here,
556
00:26:35,469 --> 00:26:36,637
but it's a massive bird.
557
00:26:36,762 --> 00:26:37,929
If you were one
of these birds,
558
00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:39,263
where would you be hiding?
559
00:26:39,264 --> 00:26:42,101
I would be probably on a rocky
outcrop somewhere where there's
560
00:26:42,226 --> 00:26:45,312
a lot of wind, because a bird
of any large size is going
561
00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:48,107
to need a lot of wind
to help them fly.
562
00:26:48,232 --> 00:26:49,941
So cliffs and wind?
563
00:26:49,942 --> 00:26:52,860
Yes, but you need to be
careful if you're going to be
564
00:26:52,861 --> 00:26:55,363
around a predatory bird's nest.
565
00:26:55,364 --> 00:26:58,950
A lot of raptors are territorial
around their nest sites,
566
00:26:58,951 --> 00:27:01,452
and they will fly at people
and even graze
567
00:27:01,453 --> 00:27:04,331
their heads with their talons
and cause an abrasion.
568
00:27:04,456 --> 00:27:06,500
These are birds
not to be messed with.
569
00:27:06,625 --> 00:27:07,709
You got it.
570
00:27:09,378 --> 00:27:11,463
But that's not the only time
you saw this thing.
571
00:27:11,588 --> 00:27:13,714
No, the second time I seen it,
572
00:27:13,715 --> 00:27:16,008
I came out, and I was down
on my barn.
573
00:27:16,009 --> 00:27:19,304
I'm up 18 feet in the air,
doing some hammering,
574
00:27:19,429 --> 00:27:21,348
and all of a sudden,
I'm in the shade.
575
00:27:21,473 --> 00:27:22,808
So, I look up.
576
00:27:22,933 --> 00:27:26,019
Another big bird is
doing laps around me.
577
00:27:26,145 --> 00:27:27,980
I was the center of the circle.
578
00:27:28,105 --> 00:27:29,897
He had his eye on you.
579
00:27:29,898 --> 00:27:31,650
Yes.
"I'm prey."
580
00:27:31,775 --> 00:27:33,651
That's what I was thinking.
581
00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:35,863
You think it was the same bird
that you saw previously?
582
00:27:35,988 --> 00:27:39,031
It looked like it.
It was the same size.
583
00:27:39,032 --> 00:27:40,324
And it...
584
00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:43,035
...glid off through the cow
pasture and went down towards
585
00:27:43,036 --> 00:27:44,705
Chestnut Ridge,
I'm thinking,
586
00:27:44,830 --> 00:27:47,206
"Good, thank goodness."
587
00:27:47,207 --> 00:27:49,083
God bless America.
588
00:27:49,084 --> 00:27:51,377
As you can see,
the Thunderbird should be
589
00:27:51,378 --> 00:27:53,045
showing up now.
There was just a big hunk...
590
00:27:53,046 --> 00:27:54,464
- Right?
- ...of lightning behind you.
591
00:27:57,926 --> 00:27:59,844
I rendezvous with
Phil, and we follow Aaron's
592
00:27:59,845 --> 00:28:02,556
directions into the nearby
Chestnut Ridge wilderness
593
00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:05,099
to begin our investigation.
594
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:08,561
Using a topographical map,
Phil has pinpointed a remote
595
00:28:08,562 --> 00:28:09,896
cliff face that should be
596
00:28:09,897 --> 00:28:11,815
an ideal vantage point
above the tree line.
597
00:28:14,484 --> 00:28:15,569
- See that up there?
- Yeah.
598
00:28:16,945 --> 00:28:19,113
I think we found our cliffs.
599
00:28:19,114 --> 00:28:21,992
Now we just got to go up.
I think up through here.
600
00:28:26,205 --> 00:28:27,539
Look at this place.
601
00:28:32,294 --> 00:28:34,588
Wow.
It goes straight up.
602
00:28:35,672 --> 00:28:39,967
Hey, if this thing exists,
whatever it is, up on one
603
00:28:39,968 --> 00:28:41,929
of those ledges could be
our best chance to find it.
604
00:28:42,054 --> 00:28:43,222
- Let's get harnessed up?
- Yeah.
605
00:28:43,347 --> 00:28:44,348
OK.
606
00:28:51,146 --> 00:28:52,438
Ready to do this?
You got me?
607
00:28:52,439 --> 00:28:54,148
Let's hope so.
608
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:56,400
That's the confidence I need
when I'm climbing
609
00:28:56,401 --> 00:28:58,403
a 100-foot cliff.
- You got this.
610
00:28:59,446 --> 00:29:01,113
OK.
I'll bring a rope up,
611
00:29:01,114 --> 00:29:02,574
drop down the safety line,
and see what
612
00:29:02,699 --> 00:29:04,243
we find up there.
- Go for it.
613
00:29:04,368 --> 00:29:05,369
Climb on.
614
00:29:12,918 --> 00:29:14,294
OK.
615
00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:15,420
All right.
616
00:29:30,227 --> 00:29:33,981
So every single ledge I get
to is a potential nesting spot.
617
00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:36,607
So, I do inspect for anything
618
00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:37,984
that may be living here
619
00:29:37,985 --> 00:29:40,194
or may have lived here
in the past.
620
00:29:40,195 --> 00:29:42,197
This one looked
pretty empty.
621
00:29:43,198 --> 00:29:45,117
So, gotta keep going up.
622
00:29:45,242 --> 00:29:46,785
- OK, climbing.
- Climb on.
623
00:29:54,042 --> 00:29:55,335
- Heather.
- Yeah?
624
00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:56,794
I think...
625
00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:58,838
- I see a feather up here.
- No way!
626
00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:01,007
Yes, it's over on this ledge
to my right.
627
00:30:01,008 --> 00:30:02,174
How big?
628
00:30:02,175 --> 00:30:05,219
I mean,
it's no songbird.
629
00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:06,847
Something big might be
nesting up here, Heather.
630
00:30:06,972 --> 00:30:08,139
OK.
631
00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:10,057
I'm gonna try to swing
over and get to it.
632
00:30:10,058 --> 00:30:12,019
- I got to get eyes on it.
- Copy that.
633
00:30:12,144 --> 00:30:13,519
- All right, you got me?
- Got you.
634
00:30:14,730 --> 00:30:15,814
One...
635
00:30:16,982 --> 00:30:18,357
two,
636
00:30:18,358 --> 00:30:20,152
three.
637
00:30:21,737 --> 00:30:23,613
- Oh [bleep], oh.
- Phil!
638
00:30:28,869 --> 00:30:32,079
Oh [bleep], oh!
Whoa!
639
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,041
Oh, my God.
640
00:30:35,125 --> 00:30:37,585
- Oh.
- Are you OK?
641
00:30:37,586 --> 00:30:40,004
I'm OK.
Thanks for catching me there.
642
00:30:40,005 --> 00:30:41,297
I got you.
643
00:30:42,883 --> 00:30:46,136
- You're heavy, but I got you.
- OK.
644
00:30:46,261 --> 00:30:48,471
I don't think I can get to it.
645
00:30:48,472 --> 00:30:51,766
But I should film with
the GoPro, pick up as many
646
00:30:51,767 --> 00:30:53,517
details on it as possible.
647
00:30:53,518 --> 00:30:55,311
We can look at the video
and try to identify what
648
00:30:55,312 --> 00:30:56,897
species was up here.
- Copy that.
649
00:31:04,988 --> 00:31:07,449
OK.
I got something.
650
00:31:07,574 --> 00:31:10,534
- Hopefully, it's enough.
- OK.
651
00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:12,412
All right.
Time to finish this climb.
652
00:31:21,588 --> 00:31:22,589
Oh...
653
00:31:24,216 --> 00:31:25,716
There was a moment there
654
00:31:25,717 --> 00:31:27,301
where I didn't think
I would make it.
655
00:31:29,137 --> 00:31:31,806
Let's get the bag up,
then let's get you up.
656
00:31:31,807 --> 00:31:33,642
- Deal?
- Deal.
657
00:31:33,767 --> 00:31:35,310
- Bag's ready.
- OK.
658
00:31:38,146 --> 00:31:39,647
All right, Heather,
you got to come up quick.
659
00:31:39,648 --> 00:31:41,357
- We're losing light.
- Climbing.
660
00:31:47,823 --> 00:31:49,157
- How we doing, Heather?
- Great.
661
00:31:54,704 --> 00:31:55,705
All right, Heather.
Almost there.
662
00:31:58,667 --> 00:31:59,876
- You got it?
- Yeah.
663
00:32:00,001 --> 00:32:01,545
OK.
664
00:32:01,670 --> 00:32:03,672
Keep going.
665
00:32:06,133 --> 00:32:08,135
All right.
Nicely done.
666
00:32:13,098 --> 00:32:16,016
Wow.
Look at that view.
667
00:32:16,017 --> 00:32:17,811
- It's incredible.
- Absolutely.
668
00:32:19,062 --> 00:32:20,229
This is our spot.
669
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:22,106
After that climb,
it better be.
670
00:32:22,107 --> 00:32:23,191
Let's get set up.
671
00:32:28,363 --> 00:32:31,074
If there are any so-called
Thunderbirds in the area,
672
00:32:31,199 --> 00:32:34,369
we're hoping to lure them to us
before they nest for the night
673
00:32:34,494 --> 00:32:36,246
by using our game caller.
674
00:32:36,371 --> 00:32:39,207
I've loaded it with the sounds
of two birds
675
00:32:39,332 --> 00:32:41,251
that could help us tonight.
One is wild turkey
676
00:32:41,376 --> 00:32:43,586
because it could be
prey, and the other is
677
00:32:43,587 --> 00:32:45,755
great horned owl because
that could be perceived
678
00:32:45,881 --> 00:32:47,715
as competition.
679
00:32:47,716 --> 00:32:50,719
So, got the calls loaded up
on the FOXPRO.
680
00:32:50,844 --> 00:32:54,472
I've got a highly sensitive,
omnidirectional microphone,
681
00:32:54,473 --> 00:32:56,432
which is attached to my phone,
682
00:32:56,433 --> 00:32:58,602
and a bird-identifying software.
683
00:32:58,727 --> 00:33:00,811
This will identify all
the known birds around here,
684
00:33:00,812 --> 00:33:03,314
from a whip-poor-will
to a warbler.
685
00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:05,567
So if I hear something that it
doesn't know...
686
00:33:05,692 --> 00:33:07,569
Then, yeah, we'll have
that documented, too.
687
00:33:07,694 --> 00:33:08,737
Awesome.
688
00:33:08,862 --> 00:33:10,238
I'm setting it
to record now.
689
00:33:11,740 --> 00:33:13,575
We'll see what it picks up.
690
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:15,076
First up, turkey dinner.
691
00:33:17,871 --> 00:33:20,080
All right,
night-vision binoculars
692
00:33:20,081 --> 00:33:22,083
on and recording.
693
00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:25,337
Got the thermal scope going.
694
00:33:43,563 --> 00:33:45,398
- Got anything, Heather?
- Nada.
695
00:33:52,948 --> 00:33:54,616
Next up,
the great horned owl.
696
00:34:05,585 --> 00:34:07,837
Jesus, oh my God.
697
00:34:07,963 --> 00:34:10,173
- That was the owl too?
- Yeah.
698
00:34:10,298 --> 00:34:12,092
They make some crazy noises.
699
00:34:15,637 --> 00:34:18,181
Anything flying in
over the treetops?
700
00:34:18,306 --> 00:34:19,473
I don't see anything yet.
701
00:34:19,474 --> 00:34:20,475
Yeah, me neither.
702
00:34:26,231 --> 00:34:27,523
Oh, did you hear that?
703
00:34:27,524 --> 00:34:28,649
Did you hear that?
704
00:34:28,650 --> 00:34:30,484
I heard that.
705
00:34:30,485 --> 00:34:31,987
That was a big branch
over there.
706
00:34:34,489 --> 00:34:35,490
Maybe something landed.
707
00:34:37,492 --> 00:34:39,661
- Can you see it?
- I don't see anything.
708
00:34:40,704 --> 00:34:41,705
Me neither.
709
00:34:42,789 --> 00:34:45,041
But that sounded right along
the edge of the rocks here.
710
00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:46,167
Yes.
711
00:34:52,299 --> 00:34:53,300
What the hell is that?
712
00:35:00,849 --> 00:35:03,310
Capturing an actual photograph
of the Thunderbird would
713
00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:04,518
make history.
714
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:08,273
And, amazingly, one such photo
is said to exist.
715
00:35:08,398 --> 00:35:12,151
The first mention of a picture
of the bird comes in a 1963
716
00:35:12,152 --> 00:35:15,113
magazine article by Jack Pearl.
717
00:35:15,238 --> 00:35:19,325
He describes a photo from
an 1890 edition of Arizona's
718
00:35:19,326 --> 00:35:23,622
"Tombstone Epitaph" newspaper,
featuring six cowboys standing
719
00:35:23,747 --> 00:35:25,332
below the outstretched wings
720
00:35:25,457 --> 00:35:28,001
of a massive bird
the size of a barn,
721
00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:29,502
nailed to the wall.
722
00:35:30,712 --> 00:35:33,714
But there is also
an equally massive problem.
723
00:35:33,715 --> 00:35:36,300
When Thunderbird sleuths
searched the "Epitaph's"
724
00:35:36,301 --> 00:35:38,178
archives, they found the story,
725
00:35:38,303 --> 00:35:41,138
but there was
no associated image.
726
00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:44,058
So did the journalist
make the photo up?
727
00:35:44,059 --> 00:35:46,645
Well, believers say "No,"
and they're still scouring
728
00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:49,773
Old West archives for that
picture-perfect proof.
729
00:35:50,774 --> 00:35:53,526
But for now, at least,
finding the photograph remains
730
00:35:53,652 --> 00:35:56,321
as elusive as finding
the Thunderbird itself.
731
00:36:04,621 --> 00:36:06,206
- What is that?
- I don't know.
732
00:36:07,916 --> 00:36:09,084
Is it recording?
733
00:36:09,209 --> 00:36:11,460
It's recorded,
but it's not identified.
734
00:36:11,461 --> 00:36:12,962
- Didn't identify it?
- No.
735
00:36:15,548 --> 00:36:18,509
OK.
That sounded big.
736
00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:19,677
Yeah.
737
00:36:19,678 --> 00:36:20,928
Oh, over there,
to the right.
738
00:36:20,929 --> 00:36:22,639
What do you see?
739
00:36:22,764 --> 00:36:24,640
Something just came in
behind the tree over there.
740
00:36:27,936 --> 00:36:30,647
I couldn't tell if it was
flying, but that was right where
741
00:36:30,772 --> 00:36:31,773
we heard that noise before.
742
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,443
I gotta get over there,
go check it out.
743
00:36:35,568 --> 00:36:36,985
I'll stay up here
and watch your back.
744
00:36:36,986 --> 00:36:38,862
OK.
745
00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:40,073
Keep your eyes to the sky.
746
00:36:47,288 --> 00:36:49,207
It's really thick in here.
747
00:37:01,636 --> 00:37:03,847
Yeah, just follow the cliff.
748
00:37:03,972 --> 00:37:07,016
Judging by what I saw
on the thermal,
749
00:37:07,142 --> 00:37:09,853
whatever we've been hearing
should be right around here.
750
00:37:13,523 --> 00:37:16,860
That was really unusual.
751
00:37:22,282 --> 00:37:23,283
Not seeing anything.
752
00:37:26,661 --> 00:37:30,039
But whatever it was that
made that noise was close.
753
00:37:33,835 --> 00:37:35,378
OK, we're getting close.
754
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:38,798
Let's see what's
around this corner.
755
00:37:56,691 --> 00:37:57,859
Oh, look at that.
756
00:37:59,861 --> 00:38:00,862
Right here, look.
757
00:38:02,405 --> 00:38:04,740
Oh, my God.
758
00:38:04,741 --> 00:38:05,950
Wow!
759
00:38:07,368 --> 00:38:08,536
Heather, I got a nest.
760
00:38:09,704 --> 00:38:11,706
Follow the cliffside.
And also, grab my phone.
761
00:38:11,831 --> 00:38:13,457
We gotta take
some photos of this.
762
00:38:13,458 --> 00:38:14,459
Copy that.
I'm on my way.
763
00:38:15,919 --> 00:38:17,629
Absolutely amazing.
764
00:38:23,384 --> 00:38:24,593
There he is.
765
00:38:24,594 --> 00:38:25,720
Phil.
766
00:38:25,845 --> 00:38:27,221
Yeah.
767
00:38:27,222 --> 00:38:28,806
Check this out.
768
00:38:28,807 --> 00:38:30,433
Look.
769
00:38:30,558 --> 00:38:31,559
What!
770
00:38:32,769 --> 00:38:34,270
Yeah.
I think...
771
00:38:35,396 --> 00:38:37,981
this used to be an active
nest, and it is...
772
00:38:37,982 --> 00:38:40,442
- Huge.
- Yes!
773
00:38:40,443 --> 00:38:41,736
I don't see any feathers,
do you?
774
00:38:41,861 --> 00:38:42,945
No.
775
00:38:42,946 --> 00:38:44,948
And I'm also not
seeing bird droppings.
776
00:38:45,073 --> 00:38:48,116
That really tells me this
hasn't been active for a while.
777
00:38:48,117 --> 00:38:51,745
But whatever lived here
had to have been big.
778
00:38:51,746 --> 00:38:52,830
What could
have lived here?
779
00:38:52,831 --> 00:38:54,790
I don't know.
780
00:38:54,791 --> 00:38:56,333
I've never seen
anything like this.
781
00:38:56,334 --> 00:38:57,460
You have my phone?
782
00:38:57,585 --> 00:38:59,629
- Yeah.
- OK.
783
00:38:59,754 --> 00:39:02,423
Phil and Heather thoroughly
documented and analyzed
784
00:39:02,549 --> 00:39:06,135
the gigantic nest, careful not
to disturb it in case it was
785
00:39:06,261 --> 00:39:11,139
still in use, whether by a bird
that's known or perhaps a bird
786
00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:12,766
that's monstrous.
787
00:39:12,767 --> 00:39:16,436
The nest measured two feet tall
and a little over nine feet
788
00:39:16,437 --> 00:39:19,983
wide, although one side was
partially destroyed, so it
789
00:39:20,108 --> 00:39:23,026
could have originally been
even larger.
790
00:39:23,027 --> 00:39:25,780
It was also positioned
at the very edge of the ridge,
791
00:39:25,905 --> 00:39:28,324
giving a vantage for attack.
792
00:39:28,449 --> 00:39:31,326
If you're a big bird here
and you need to take off,
793
00:39:31,327 --> 00:39:34,497
this is your launching point,
riding that updraft
794
00:39:34,622 --> 00:39:35,831
along the cliff.
795
00:39:35,832 --> 00:39:38,625
But was this really
the home of a Thunderbird?
796
00:39:40,795 --> 00:39:41,963
The dark gray feather
797
00:39:42,088 --> 00:39:45,132
Phil found on his climb up
the cliff face matches that
798
00:39:45,133 --> 00:39:46,926
of the wing of a bald eagle.
799
00:39:48,511 --> 00:39:52,014
The nest's size also appears
to match one that could belong
800
00:39:52,015 --> 00:39:55,058
to a mating pair
of bald eagles.
801
00:39:55,059 --> 00:39:58,146
But the sound that Heather
and Phil heard on the cliff top
802
00:39:58,271 --> 00:40:00,189
was most certainly
from something else.
803
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:05,319
When Phil's identification app
failed to recognize it,
804
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,197
he sent the clip to Katie at
the Avian Conservation Center.
805
00:40:09,198 --> 00:40:12,326
She identified this
as the call of a barred owl.
806
00:40:14,370 --> 00:40:17,164
Specifically, one that was
feeling threatened.
807
00:40:17,165 --> 00:40:20,043
Was the owl alarmed
by the calls Phil was playing?
808
00:40:21,836 --> 00:40:23,879
Or by something bigger?
809
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,048
Look.
810
00:40:26,049 --> 00:40:28,509
Because the team did find
a piece of evidence that
811
00:40:28,635 --> 00:40:31,720
indicated a much larger
predator is stalking
812
00:40:31,721 --> 00:40:34,933
these skies--
the huge regurgitation pellet.
813
00:40:36,601 --> 00:40:39,394
Phil analyzed the pellet
back at HQ and made
814
00:40:39,395 --> 00:40:41,438
an astonishing discovery.
815
00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:44,233
It contained the digested bones
of an adult cat.
816
00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:50,948
So, is the Thunderbird
flying high in the skies
817
00:40:50,949 --> 00:40:52,200
of Pennsylvania?
818
00:40:52,325 --> 00:40:55,202
Well, if the feather and nest
that the team found do belong
819
00:40:55,203 --> 00:40:57,913
to a bald eagle, those birds
have a wingspan of
820
00:40:57,914 --> 00:40:59,582
up to 7 and a half feet,
821
00:40:59,707 --> 00:41:03,293
a huge size that could
perhaps be misidentified
822
00:41:03,294 --> 00:41:04,711
as monstrous.
823
00:41:04,712 --> 00:41:07,881
As for the pellet,
the local great horned owl does
824
00:41:07,882 --> 00:41:09,258
attack cats.
825
00:41:09,384 --> 00:41:11,094
It's not known
to eat them whole,
826
00:41:11,219 --> 00:41:12,971
but it could certainly
consume one.
827
00:41:14,347 --> 00:41:17,265
Putting these facts together,
it seems unlikely that
828
00:41:17,266 --> 00:41:19,394
the Thunderbird is casting
a shadow over
829
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:21,645
the Allegheny Mountains.
830
00:41:21,646 --> 00:41:25,107
Although, try telling that
to our terrified eyewitnesses.
831
00:41:25,108 --> 00:41:29,152
You're talking miniature,
and I'm talking monster.
832
00:41:29,153 --> 00:41:31,447
But our official
recommendation, to borrow
833
00:41:31,572 --> 00:41:34,909
a phrase, "don't count your
Thunderbirds before they hatch."
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