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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,835 --> 00:00:03,003 Oh, did you hear that? 2 00:00:08,967 --> 00:00:10,927 What the hell is that? 3 00:00:10,928 --> 00:00:14,223 On this episode of "Expedition X"... 4 00:00:14,348 --> 00:00:15,766 Here we go! 5 00:00:17,684 --> 00:00:19,894 Heather and Phil take to the air... 6 00:00:19,895 --> 00:00:21,522 Woo-hoo-hoo! 7 00:00:21,647 --> 00:00:24,732 ...investigating frightening reports of a legendary 8 00:00:24,733 --> 00:00:27,903 avian monster known as the "Thunderbird." 9 00:00:28,028 --> 00:00:29,695 There's hardly anything on the face of this earth 10 00:00:29,696 --> 00:00:30,697 that scares me... 11 00:00:32,950 --> 00:00:34,367 but that did. 12 00:00:34,368 --> 00:00:35,869 He had his eye on you. 13 00:00:35,994 --> 00:00:38,079 Yes. 14 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,040 The team will scale great heights... 15 00:00:40,165 --> 00:00:41,166 I got you. 16 00:00:42,417 --> 00:00:44,710 ...uncovering remarkable evidence... 17 00:00:44,711 --> 00:00:47,255 - This is huge. - What? 18 00:00:47,256 --> 00:00:50,717 ...as they hunt for the terror of the skies. 19 00:00:50,842 --> 00:00:51,843 You see anything? 20 00:01:06,525 --> 00:01:08,776 So, you guys know I'm all about the creatures. 21 00:01:08,777 --> 00:01:09,778 - We know, Phil. - Yeah. 22 00:01:09,903 --> 00:01:12,321 Try being stuck in a car with him for eight hours. 23 00:01:12,322 --> 00:01:15,783 "Let me tell you about Spain's lesser-spotted fire lizard." 24 00:01:15,784 --> 00:01:17,410 Heather, how many times did I tell you on that drive? 25 00:01:17,411 --> 00:01:20,080 It is a fire salamander, not a lizard. 26 00:01:20,205 --> 00:01:21,248 - Oh, boy. - She never listens. 27 00:01:21,373 --> 00:01:22,416 Oh, boy. 28 00:01:22,541 --> 00:01:24,834 But I got something that you definitely are gonna 29 00:01:24,835 --> 00:01:27,963 want to listen to now, because I came across some very 30 00:01:28,088 --> 00:01:32,466 interesting, new audio evidence that some people are linking 31 00:01:32,467 --> 00:01:34,970 to an ancient Native American myth. 32 00:01:35,095 --> 00:01:37,806 So this is recorded on this woman's porch cam, 33 00:01:37,931 --> 00:01:40,266 and you're gonna hear some normal bird songs. 34 00:01:40,267 --> 00:01:42,351 But what you want to pay attention to is this strange, 35 00:01:42,352 --> 00:01:46,314 low-pitched sound combined with this descending whistle 36 00:01:46,315 --> 00:01:47,649 at the end of the clip. 37 00:01:47,774 --> 00:01:49,275 You're also gonna hear the homeowner react, 38 00:01:49,276 --> 00:01:51,944 because she's never heard anything like this before. 39 00:01:51,945 --> 00:01:53,113 OK. 40 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,035 So that's a cardinal. But that... 41 00:01:59,036 --> 00:02:00,953 Hm. 42 00:02:00,954 --> 00:02:02,705 That low sound, yeah, yeah, yeah. 43 00:02:02,706 --> 00:02:04,874 She's looking around, trying to figure out what it is. 44 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:12,465 Dude, that's, like, not kids messing around. 45 00:02:12,466 --> 00:02:14,884 What is that? 46 00:02:14,885 --> 00:02:17,470 That's, like, working the dogs up. 47 00:02:17,471 --> 00:02:19,431 Whoa. 48 00:02:21,516 --> 00:02:23,476 - What is that? - I gotta say, I've never heard 49 00:02:23,477 --> 00:02:25,227 a bird call like this before. 50 00:02:25,228 --> 00:02:29,190 Now, this particular recording was captured in 51 00:02:29,191 --> 00:02:31,485 the Allegheny Mountains of Pennsylvania. 52 00:02:31,610 --> 00:02:34,070 And in this region, over the last few years, 53 00:02:34,071 --> 00:02:37,491 there's been a spate of sightings of a very large, 54 00:02:37,616 --> 00:02:40,993 unidentified bird of prey that's led many people in the region 55 00:02:40,994 --> 00:02:43,372 to suspect, including this woman, that it could 56 00:02:43,497 --> 00:02:44,873 be a Thunderbird. 57 00:02:44,998 --> 00:02:47,834 You mean the giant bird from Native American folklore? 58 00:02:47,959 --> 00:02:49,211 That's the one. 59 00:02:49,336 --> 00:02:53,422 It supposedly has a 30-foot wingspan, resembles a giant 60 00:02:53,423 --> 00:02:56,218 eagle, and can command the storms. 61 00:02:56,343 --> 00:02:58,178 It is a potent mythical being. 62 00:02:58,303 --> 00:03:00,096 I am very familiar with this story. 63 00:03:00,097 --> 00:03:03,182 I actually went looking for the Thunderbird many years ago 64 00:03:03,183 --> 00:03:06,936 in Alaska, because there had been a whole raft of sightings 65 00:03:06,937 --> 00:03:08,187 there as well. 66 00:03:08,188 --> 00:03:11,774 And I've always associated this creature with that region 67 00:03:11,775 --> 00:03:13,776 in the Pacific Northwest in general. 68 00:03:13,777 --> 00:03:16,445 But this clip and these other encounters you mentioned are 69 00:03:16,446 --> 00:03:18,781 coming out of a different region entirely. 70 00:03:18,782 --> 00:03:20,742 And so it seems that the Thunderbird may be 71 00:03:20,867 --> 00:03:23,744 kicking up a storm over the skies of Pennsylvania. 72 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,042 For thousands of years, generations of Native Americans 73 00:03:30,043 --> 00:03:33,921 have shared stories of a massive, winged creature known 74 00:03:33,922 --> 00:03:35,423 as the "Thunderbird." 75 00:03:35,424 --> 00:03:37,425 The specifics vary, but some of 76 00:03:37,426 --> 00:03:41,053 its supernatural aspects are universal. 77 00:03:41,054 --> 00:03:43,890 It's said to create thunder with the flapping of its wings 78 00:03:45,016 --> 00:03:47,060 and casts lightning from its eyes. 79 00:03:48,895 --> 00:03:51,398 Some indigenous people see the powerful Thunderbird 80 00:03:51,523 --> 00:03:54,942 as a protective spirit that can divert a storm 81 00:03:54,943 --> 00:03:56,570 or heal sickness. 82 00:03:56,695 --> 00:04:00,115 Others say the creature is an omen of war and danger. 83 00:04:01,783 --> 00:04:04,660 But for some, the Thunderbird is much more 84 00:04:04,661 --> 00:04:07,289 than a myth. It's a real-life monster. 85 00:04:10,250 --> 00:04:14,129 In 1890, an article in Arizona's "Tombstone Epitaph" 86 00:04:14,254 --> 00:04:18,091 describes two ranchers shooting and killing a mysterious bird 87 00:04:18,216 --> 00:04:19,301 in the Sonoran Desert. 88 00:04:20,427 --> 00:04:24,638 The beast is described as having a wingspan of 160 feet. 89 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,477 Illinois, July 25th, 1977. 90 00:04:31,062 --> 00:04:34,315 Ten-year-old Marlon Lowe is playing with friends when 91 00:04:34,316 --> 00:04:38,194 something casts a giant shadow over his backyard. 92 00:04:38,195 --> 00:04:43,532 Within seconds, a massive bird snatches Marlon in its talons, 93 00:04:43,533 --> 00:04:46,494 carrying the boy 35 feet through the air. 94 00:04:46,495 --> 00:04:49,455 As it attempts to fly off, the boy's mother, Ruth, 95 00:04:49,456 --> 00:04:51,832 wages a tug-of-war with the beast 96 00:04:51,833 --> 00:04:53,877 until it relents and lets him go. 97 00:04:55,337 --> 00:04:59,299 In 2021, a Pennsylvania woman reports spotting a bird 98 00:04:59,424 --> 00:05:02,468 of unimaginable size perched atop the chimney 99 00:05:02,469 --> 00:05:03,804 of an office building. 100 00:05:03,929 --> 00:05:06,473 As she tries to photograph the colossal creature, 101 00:05:06,598 --> 00:05:09,558 it swoops down at her, talons extended. 102 00:05:09,559 --> 00:05:12,854 She barely makes it into the building to escape. 103 00:05:12,979 --> 00:05:16,316 When authorities attempt to verify the woman's claims, 104 00:05:16,441 --> 00:05:17,900 they discover several bricks 105 00:05:17,901 --> 00:05:19,486 have been torn from the chimney. 106 00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:24,825 Now, a recent surge in sightings points to a hot-spot 107 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:28,536 of supposed Thunderbird activity in the Allegheny Mountains 108 00:05:28,537 --> 00:05:31,872 along Pennsylvania's Chestnut Ridge. 109 00:05:31,873 --> 00:05:35,543 Locals describe aggressive birds with wingspans 110 00:05:35,544 --> 00:05:39,588 up to 10 times the size of a bald eagle. 111 00:05:39,589 --> 00:05:41,549 Ranchers in the area have reported 112 00:05:41,550 --> 00:05:43,677 livestock disappearing without a trace. 113 00:05:44,886 --> 00:05:48,389 And most shocking of all, last month, a trucker claims 114 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:51,851 his rig was almost lifted off the ground by one of these 115 00:05:51,852 --> 00:05:53,602 monster birds. 116 00:05:53,603 --> 00:05:55,689 But what's really going on here? 117 00:05:55,814 --> 00:05:59,024 Has the legendary Thunderbird truly taken flight 118 00:05:59,025 --> 00:06:00,443 in Western Pennsylvania? 119 00:06:05,031 --> 00:06:08,284 Just to be clear, I am not saying there is a giant 120 00:06:08,285 --> 00:06:11,371 monster bird out there firing lightning bolts from its eyes. 121 00:06:11,496 --> 00:06:13,582 - That's what I heard you say. - Uh-huh. 122 00:06:13,707 --> 00:06:18,377 But there definitely could be a large avian predator that has 123 00:06:18,378 --> 00:06:19,795 yet to be documented. 124 00:06:19,796 --> 00:06:21,630 I mean, just a couple years ago, there was 125 00:06:21,631 --> 00:06:24,216 a Steller's sea eagle found in Texas. 126 00:06:24,217 --> 00:06:27,136 This is a massive bird, seven to eight-foot wingspan 127 00:06:27,137 --> 00:06:30,098 that is normally found in Northeastern Asia, 128 00:06:30,223 --> 00:06:33,894 6,000 miles away. So, anything's possible. 129 00:06:34,019 --> 00:06:37,104 I've always been fascinated by this story, partially because 130 00:06:37,105 --> 00:06:39,982 the Thunderbird mythology is so rich, but also because 131 00:06:39,983 --> 00:06:42,109 you do have these people stepping forward 132 00:06:42,110 --> 00:06:46,614 claiming to see a flying, unidentified something. 133 00:06:46,615 --> 00:06:50,075 So, what do you think? Real deal or for the birds? 134 00:06:50,076 --> 00:06:52,287 I get how it could sound far-fetched that there's 135 00:06:52,412 --> 00:06:55,915 a Thunderbird in Pennsylvania, but the eyewitness reports are 136 00:06:55,916 --> 00:06:58,460 real, that audio is real, and people are 137 00:06:58,585 --> 00:07:00,086 seeing something. 138 00:07:00,211 --> 00:07:01,962 So we got to go in with an open mind. 139 00:07:01,963 --> 00:07:04,965 And we've investigated a lot of land-based cryptids, so this 140 00:07:04,966 --> 00:07:06,927 time investigating one that's in the air, 141 00:07:07,052 --> 00:07:08,303 it's gonna be fascinating. 142 00:07:08,428 --> 00:07:09,596 And it's not going to be easy, 143 00:07:09,721 --> 00:07:11,013 and I don't know how we're gonna do it, 144 00:07:11,014 --> 00:07:12,473 but I'm definitely in. 145 00:07:12,474 --> 00:07:14,600 All right, sounds like we're all agreed. 146 00:07:14,601 --> 00:07:16,769 The mission is to get to Pennsylvania. 147 00:07:16,770 --> 00:07:19,813 Start by interviewing this trucker who claims his rig was 148 00:07:19,814 --> 00:07:22,484 attacked from the skies. Is it a Thunderbird? 149 00:07:22,609 --> 00:07:25,861 Is it misidentification? Is it an unknown species? 150 00:07:25,862 --> 00:07:28,823 See if you can get a bird's-eye view of the truth. 151 00:07:28,949 --> 00:07:31,159 - Ka-kaw! - What was that? 152 00:07:31,284 --> 00:07:33,161 It's Thunderbird for "Hell, yeah." 153 00:07:33,286 --> 00:07:36,789 Oh, sorry, I don't speak Thunderbird. 154 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:38,458 The flight from New York to Pittsburgh is 155 00:07:38,583 --> 00:07:40,376 just over an hour. 156 00:07:40,377 --> 00:07:43,964 The team then hits the road for a two-hour drive along Route 30 157 00:07:44,089 --> 00:07:47,133 to the area where our witness had his shocking encounter. 158 00:07:49,302 --> 00:07:50,678 Looks like there's our guy. 159 00:07:50,679 --> 00:07:51,680 All right. 160 00:07:55,225 --> 00:07:56,850 Hey, Fred. 161 00:07:56,851 --> 00:07:58,478 Veteran and trucker Fred Stull 162 00:07:58,603 --> 00:08:01,188 has driven America's highways for decades. 163 00:08:01,189 --> 00:08:04,733 He thought he'd seen it all, until he recently crossed paths 164 00:08:04,734 --> 00:08:06,361 with something beyond belief. 165 00:08:07,404 --> 00:08:09,990 So this is Highway 30. 166 00:08:10,115 --> 00:08:14,076 It was around here that you saw whatever you saw. 167 00:08:14,077 --> 00:08:17,330 Yeah, but this is, like, the first time I've ever talked 168 00:08:17,455 --> 00:08:19,206 publicly about it. 169 00:08:19,207 --> 00:08:21,334 Can you tell us what happened to you? 170 00:08:21,459 --> 00:08:23,670 Well, it was about 4 o'clock in the morning. 171 00:08:25,422 --> 00:08:26,840 Just started work. 172 00:08:26,965 --> 00:08:28,675 Going up Route 30 over the mountain. 173 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:31,427 I was coming up the hill. 174 00:08:31,428 --> 00:08:33,929 My lights were shining up in the air. 175 00:08:33,930 --> 00:08:38,184 This enormous bird thing come out of the southeast. 176 00:08:39,227 --> 00:08:40,562 I literally thought it was gonna take 177 00:08:40,687 --> 00:08:42,354 the top of my truck off. 178 00:08:45,191 --> 00:08:47,109 How big was this thing? 179 00:08:47,110 --> 00:08:50,571 I'd say the wingspan was 60 to 80 feet. 180 00:08:50,572 --> 00:08:52,866 - 60 to 80 feet? - At least. 181 00:08:52,991 --> 00:08:56,745 The width of the wing literally covered my whole tractor. 182 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:59,621 I mean, you gotta understand how for someone hearing that, 183 00:08:59,622 --> 00:09:01,957 that sounds kind of unbelievable. 184 00:09:01,958 --> 00:09:03,584 I really don't care what people think. 185 00:09:03,585 --> 00:09:05,795 - Mm-hmm. - I've seen what I've seen. 186 00:09:07,005 --> 00:09:08,923 What'd you do after you saw this thing? 187 00:09:09,049 --> 00:09:10,842 I got out of there as fast as I could. 188 00:09:12,260 --> 00:09:13,595 I didn't care where it went. 189 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,472 I did not want to see it again. 190 00:09:17,223 --> 00:09:19,475 - So this thing scared you? - Yes, it did. 191 00:09:19,476 --> 00:09:22,311 Believe me, I've seen a lot of stuff, running up and down 192 00:09:22,312 --> 00:09:26,106 these roads for 25 years and being in the military. 193 00:09:26,107 --> 00:09:28,108 And there's hardly anything on the face of this earth 194 00:09:28,109 --> 00:09:30,278 that scares me, but that did. 195 00:09:31,529 --> 00:09:34,240 So in that moment, what did you think it was? 196 00:09:34,365 --> 00:09:36,325 I had no idea. 197 00:09:36,326 --> 00:09:39,495 First place I was able to pull over, I called my wife. 198 00:09:39,496 --> 00:09:41,581 She says, "You've seen what they call the Thunderbird." 199 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:44,458 And I asked her, I said, "What is it?" 200 00:09:44,459 --> 00:09:46,753 You know, I'd never heard of it. 201 00:09:46,878 --> 00:09:49,838 I guess it's some kind of mythical legend, but... 202 00:09:49,839 --> 00:09:52,634 it's not mythical. It's real. 203 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:55,094 Have you heard of anyone else seeing something like it? 204 00:09:55,095 --> 00:09:58,305 I've heard rumors where guys have 1,200-pound cows 205 00:09:58,306 --> 00:10:00,265 come up missing. - Wow. 206 00:10:00,266 --> 00:10:01,975 Just disappeared. 207 00:10:01,976 --> 00:10:04,813 No tracks around, and nothing drug it out. 208 00:10:04,938 --> 00:10:07,315 So it's something huge had to pick it up. 209 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,192 - Maybe a Thunderbird. - That's what I would say. 210 00:10:10,193 --> 00:10:12,611 Where do you think we should focus our search if we want 211 00:10:12,612 --> 00:10:14,948 to try to get eyes on it ourselves? 212 00:10:15,073 --> 00:10:18,952 I would start where Route 30 crosses Chestnut Ridge 213 00:10:19,077 --> 00:10:21,121 and Laurel Ridge after it. 214 00:10:21,246 --> 00:10:24,457 Between them two ridges, it's nothing but forest, 215 00:10:24,582 --> 00:10:26,792 mountains and that, and nobody knows 216 00:10:26,793 --> 00:10:28,335 what's up in the woods. 217 00:10:28,336 --> 00:10:30,045 Fred, thank you for sharing your story. 218 00:10:30,046 --> 00:10:31,380 Thank you so much. 219 00:10:31,381 --> 00:10:34,800 Be real careful and take very good precautions. 220 00:10:34,801 --> 00:10:35,927 - Yes, sir. - You got it. 221 00:10:37,303 --> 00:10:40,140 Fred's given us a lot of ground to cover. 222 00:10:40,265 --> 00:10:43,476 Highway 30 runs through 15 miles of wilderness between 223 00:10:43,601 --> 00:10:46,186 Laurel Ridge, where Fred had his experience, 224 00:10:46,187 --> 00:10:48,857 and Chestnut Ridge, where our video of that eerie 225 00:10:48,982 --> 00:10:50,525 bird call was captured. 226 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:53,318 If we're gonna cover the territory of a giant bird, 227 00:10:53,319 --> 00:10:57,240 we had a suitably giant idea. Why not fly like one? 228 00:10:58,867 --> 00:11:00,742 Gliders don't use engines. 229 00:11:00,743 --> 00:11:03,204 They ride the same thermal currents that large birds 230 00:11:03,329 --> 00:11:05,373 of prey like hawks and eagles use. 231 00:11:05,498 --> 00:11:09,418 Gliders are also almost completely silent, making them 232 00:11:09,419 --> 00:11:13,422 the perfect perch to spot birds, monstrous or otherwise, 233 00:11:13,423 --> 00:11:14,549 in action. 234 00:11:14,674 --> 00:11:16,049 All right, Heather. 235 00:11:16,050 --> 00:11:18,845 - See you up there. - All right, have fun. 236 00:11:20,305 --> 00:11:22,848 Heather and I will launch separately, being towed 237 00:11:22,849 --> 00:11:25,685 by a plane to 4,000 feet before being released. 238 00:11:25,810 --> 00:11:26,811 Closed. 239 00:11:28,021 --> 00:11:30,397 Since we'll be constantly on the lookout for giant nests 240 00:11:30,398 --> 00:11:33,526 and anything else unusual that could point to a Thunderbird, 241 00:11:33,651 --> 00:11:36,361 we're each joined in the cockpit by an experienced 242 00:11:36,362 --> 00:11:37,530 glider pilot. 243 00:11:37,655 --> 00:11:39,699 They'll stay focused on keeping us flying, 244 00:11:39,824 --> 00:11:42,076 while we scan our surroundings. 245 00:11:42,202 --> 00:11:45,287 If we spot anything out of the ordinary, we'll log the GPS 246 00:11:45,288 --> 00:11:47,789 coordinates for a follow-up. 247 00:11:47,790 --> 00:11:49,751 Here we go! 248 00:11:49,876 --> 00:11:50,877 Hell yeah! 249 00:11:52,921 --> 00:11:54,088 We're in the air. 250 00:11:59,886 --> 00:12:01,762 This is incredible. 251 00:12:01,763 --> 00:12:03,097 Look at this view! 252 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:05,725 Hey, Phil, look to your left. 253 00:12:06,935 --> 00:12:08,895 Oh, hey. Good to see you. 254 00:12:09,020 --> 00:12:10,896 What are you doing up here? 255 00:12:10,897 --> 00:12:11,898 Oh, just hanging out. 256 00:12:13,107 --> 00:12:14,107 OK. Ready? 257 00:12:14,108 --> 00:12:16,443 - . - All right, Heather. 258 00:12:16,444 --> 00:12:18,278 We're gonna be released. Ready? 259 00:12:18,279 --> 00:12:19,571 Copy. I got eyes on you. 260 00:12:19,572 --> 00:12:21,574 3, 2, 1. 261 00:12:23,993 --> 00:12:25,703 Woo-hoo-hoo! 262 00:12:32,627 --> 00:12:34,670 Oh, and we're away. 263 00:12:34,671 --> 00:12:36,714 Wow! 264 00:12:36,839 --> 00:12:38,716 Ah! 265 00:12:38,841 --> 00:12:40,384 Oh, my God. 266 00:12:40,385 --> 00:12:42,345 There we go. 267 00:12:42,470 --> 00:12:45,180 There we go, just us in the air, harnessing that 268 00:12:45,181 --> 00:12:47,599 power of the thermals. 269 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,728 If you are a large bird, it takes an enormous amount 270 00:12:51,729 --> 00:12:53,105 of energy to fly. 271 00:12:53,106 --> 00:12:55,316 You would be doing exactly what we are doing right now. 272 00:12:56,943 --> 00:12:58,026 See that road down there? 273 00:12:58,027 --> 00:12:59,362 It's got to be Highway 30, 274 00:12:59,487 --> 00:13:01,780 cut right through Chestnut Ridge. 275 00:13:01,781 --> 00:13:03,573 See that other set of ridges off in the distance? 276 00:13:03,574 --> 00:13:04,701 That's got to be Laurel. 277 00:13:04,826 --> 00:13:06,577 Well, you want to take Laurel, and I'll take Chestnut? 278 00:13:06,703 --> 00:13:07,912 Let's do it. 279 00:13:08,037 --> 00:13:09,747 Copy that. 280 00:13:09,872 --> 00:13:11,374 See that ridge over to the left with that road 281 00:13:11,499 --> 00:13:13,251 cutting through? - Yep. 282 00:13:13,376 --> 00:13:14,960 Is there a way we could do a little turn? 283 00:13:14,961 --> 00:13:16,045 Sure. 284 00:13:19,966 --> 00:13:21,926 Now, remember what we're looking for. 285 00:13:22,051 --> 00:13:24,094 Anything down below, large stick structures 286 00:13:24,095 --> 00:13:27,265 at the top of the trees, that could indicate a nest. 287 00:13:27,390 --> 00:13:30,475 Anything above us that is the same size or bigger. 288 00:13:30,476 --> 00:13:31,811 Copy that. I got my eyes peeled. 289 00:13:35,398 --> 00:13:38,150 The American bald eagle has the largest bird nest 290 00:13:38,151 --> 00:13:41,278 in the entire world, building huge, typically 291 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:45,074 nine feet wide, 12 feet tall, stick structures. 292 00:13:45,199 --> 00:13:48,118 But if a Thunderbird is really the largest thing in the skies, 293 00:13:48,119 --> 00:13:52,165 as the stories say, that means its nest would be even bigger. 294 00:13:53,458 --> 00:13:56,168 So, even though we're a mile high right now, we should be 295 00:13:56,169 --> 00:13:57,754 able to see a nest from the sky. 296 00:13:58,921 --> 00:14:00,506 We can see for miles. 297 00:14:02,258 --> 00:14:05,635 Our wingspan is roughly 55 feet. 298 00:14:05,636 --> 00:14:09,473 Our witness told us that the Thunderbird that he saw had 299 00:14:09,474 --> 00:14:11,183 a wingspan of 80 feet. 300 00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:15,104 So, I'm keeping my eyes out for anything as large as a glider. 301 00:14:18,941 --> 00:14:20,359 Oh, I got something. 302 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,402 To the right! 303 00:14:22,779 --> 00:14:23,946 Straight ahead. 304 00:14:25,782 --> 00:14:27,949 I've got an interesting stick structure I'm seeing 305 00:14:27,950 --> 00:14:29,369 down below on top of a tree. 306 00:14:31,245 --> 00:14:33,331 Heather, I think I see our first potential nest. 307 00:14:33,456 --> 00:14:34,582 Nice. 308 00:14:36,209 --> 00:14:37,627 I'm gonna mark a GPS point. 309 00:14:38,628 --> 00:14:40,463 Copy that. 310 00:14:40,588 --> 00:14:42,298 Quarter mile east of where we are right now. 311 00:14:42,423 --> 00:14:44,509 We got something. 312 00:14:44,634 --> 00:14:47,136 That is promising. We're in the right spot. 313 00:14:51,641 --> 00:14:54,226 After another hour of searching, the nest I spotted 314 00:14:54,227 --> 00:14:56,686 seems to be our most promising lead. 315 00:14:56,687 --> 00:14:59,731 So, we turn back and start our descent. 316 00:14:59,732 --> 00:15:01,858 All right, Heather, I'll head in first. 317 00:15:01,859 --> 00:15:03,193 Copy that. I got eyes on you. 318 00:15:05,029 --> 00:15:06,489 Woo-wee! 319 00:15:08,491 --> 00:15:09,492 Touchdown. 320 00:15:11,661 --> 00:15:12,662 Coming in for the landing. 321 00:15:20,586 --> 00:15:21,587 All right, thank you. 322 00:15:22,839 --> 00:15:26,049 - Nicely done, Glen. - How about that? 323 00:15:26,050 --> 00:15:28,886 - Amazing. - That was incredible, 324 00:15:29,011 --> 00:15:30,387 to be riding those thermals. 325 00:15:30,388 --> 00:15:31,514 - I know. - I guess we know 326 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:33,349 where we're heading next. - Yeah, we do. 327 00:15:36,185 --> 00:15:38,229 The coordinates I marked fall on the foothills 328 00:15:38,354 --> 00:15:42,023 of Laurel Ridge, just six miles north of where Fred had 329 00:15:42,024 --> 00:15:43,568 his strange encounter. 330 00:15:45,820 --> 00:15:46,821 OK. 331 00:15:48,197 --> 00:15:50,241 With the exception of owls, all birds of prey 332 00:15:50,366 --> 00:15:52,075 hunt during the day. - This way. 333 00:15:52,076 --> 00:15:53,411 All right. 334 00:15:53,536 --> 00:15:56,204 The largest, like eagles, can hunt in an area 335 00:15:56,205 --> 00:15:59,040 up to 15 square miles. 336 00:15:59,041 --> 00:16:02,794 The best chance we have of finding a large, avian predator 337 00:16:02,795 --> 00:16:04,547 is when it's nesting at night. 338 00:16:05,756 --> 00:16:07,216 Hey, it's getting dark. 339 00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:10,553 How are we looking on GPS? 340 00:16:10,678 --> 00:16:12,262 Should be straight ahead of us. 341 00:16:12,263 --> 00:16:13,264 OK. 342 00:16:19,103 --> 00:16:20,562 - Hey. - Yeah? 343 00:16:20,563 --> 00:16:23,232 We are 100 yards from that possible structure you saw. 344 00:16:23,357 --> 00:16:25,442 Oh, yeah, we're almost right on top of it. 345 00:16:25,443 --> 00:16:27,403 If there is something there, I don't want to scare it away. 346 00:16:27,528 --> 00:16:30,155 So before we get any closer, there is a new tool 347 00:16:30,156 --> 00:16:31,699 I want to use. - OK. 348 00:16:33,409 --> 00:16:35,203 So, this is a ZEISS thermal scope. 349 00:16:36,913 --> 00:16:39,789 Your average thermal camera can only see maybe 50, 100 feet 350 00:16:39,790 --> 00:16:43,293 in front of you. This can see up to a mile. 351 00:16:43,294 --> 00:16:44,920 - Cool. - So near and far, 352 00:16:44,921 --> 00:16:46,297 if there's something flying around or up 353 00:16:46,422 --> 00:16:48,590 in the trees, this thing will get it. 354 00:16:48,591 --> 00:16:49,592 Here's hoping. 355 00:16:54,138 --> 00:16:55,139 Do you see anything? 356 00:17:00,144 --> 00:17:01,145 You ready to move in? 357 00:17:01,270 --> 00:17:02,313 Yeah. 358 00:17:02,438 --> 00:17:04,356 Let's go nice and slow. 359 00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:16,369 It's got to be right in front of us. 360 00:17:22,291 --> 00:17:23,459 Oh, got something. 361 00:17:24,585 --> 00:17:25,627 What? 362 00:17:25,628 --> 00:17:28,505 It is a tangle of branches up there. 363 00:17:28,506 --> 00:17:30,173 It's gotta be it. 364 00:17:30,174 --> 00:17:31,675 You think that's what you saw from the glider? 365 00:17:31,676 --> 00:17:34,136 I think so. It's glowing. 366 00:17:34,262 --> 00:17:36,973 - It's glowing? - It's glowing warm. 367 00:17:37,098 --> 00:17:38,641 Which, if that's a nest, 368 00:17:39,642 --> 00:17:41,018 something could be incubating in there. 369 00:17:44,272 --> 00:17:45,314 Should we get closer? 370 00:17:45,439 --> 00:17:46,731 Yeah. 371 00:17:46,732 --> 00:17:47,858 Quietly. 372 00:17:58,494 --> 00:18:00,495 No. 373 00:18:00,496 --> 00:18:01,497 Oh. 374 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,334 It's a big, dead tree. 375 00:18:07,044 --> 00:18:09,380 Oh, no. False lead? 376 00:18:10,423 --> 00:18:13,175 Well, marking GPS from 4,000 feet isn't exact, 377 00:18:13,301 --> 00:18:16,220 so what I saw could still be around here. 378 00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:18,388 OK, but that's clearly not holding something the size 379 00:18:18,389 --> 00:18:19,390 of a Thunderbird. 380 00:18:25,563 --> 00:18:26,564 Oh, my God. 381 00:18:28,524 --> 00:18:29,525 There's something up there. 382 00:18:38,367 --> 00:18:39,660 Do you see anything? 383 00:18:45,583 --> 00:18:47,042 - Ahh! - What the--? 384 00:18:47,043 --> 00:18:49,127 Something just flew off there. 385 00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:51,213 Let's go. 386 00:18:58,596 --> 00:19:00,598 Where did it go? 387 00:19:00,723 --> 00:19:01,766 Do you see anything? 388 00:19:03,684 --> 00:19:06,020 I got nothing. I think I lost it. 389 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:12,276 Whatever it was, it was sizable. 390 00:19:12,401 --> 00:19:14,569 - And in the treetops. - Yes. 391 00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:16,321 Let's look around and see if we can find any evidence. 392 00:19:16,322 --> 00:19:17,406 All right, OK. 393 00:19:18,574 --> 00:19:20,450 - Spread out a little bit? - Yeah. 394 00:19:20,451 --> 00:19:21,452 OK, I'll take left. 395 00:19:27,083 --> 00:19:28,626 Oh, what is this? 396 00:19:30,252 --> 00:19:31,921 This is huge. 397 00:19:32,046 --> 00:19:33,881 Oh, my God. 398 00:19:39,845 --> 00:19:41,681 Heather, get over here. 399 00:19:41,806 --> 00:19:42,932 - What? - Look. 400 00:19:44,433 --> 00:19:45,810 I think this is a bird pellet. 401 00:19:47,687 --> 00:19:49,230 Look above. See that branch? 402 00:19:49,355 --> 00:19:52,524 This is exactly what you would expect 403 00:19:52,525 --> 00:19:54,068 with a large bird of prey. 404 00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:55,902 They catch their food. 405 00:19:55,903 --> 00:19:58,906 They sit on a horizontal branch and puke out 406 00:19:59,031 --> 00:20:00,615 the bones and the fur. 407 00:20:00,616 --> 00:20:02,534 And look what we got in here. 408 00:20:02,535 --> 00:20:04,119 You can see the bones protruding through it. 409 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:07,038 - That is a sizable prey. - I've seen an owl pellet. 410 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:10,041 - That looks way larger. - Yes, it's huge! 411 00:20:10,042 --> 00:20:11,711 I've never seen a pellet that big. 412 00:20:13,087 --> 00:20:15,880 If that's the biggest pellet you've ever seen, what size 413 00:20:15,881 --> 00:20:18,926 bird are we talking about? - Exactly. 414 00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:21,302 It must be massive. 415 00:20:21,303 --> 00:20:24,431 I mean, there are bald eagles here, potentially 416 00:20:24,432 --> 00:20:27,809 a golden eagle, so maybe something like that. 417 00:20:27,810 --> 00:20:30,603 But the beauty of pellets is that you can reconstruct 418 00:20:30,604 --> 00:20:33,898 those bones and figure out what the prey was. 419 00:20:33,899 --> 00:20:37,236 Are you using "beauty" and "puke" in the same sentence? 420 00:20:37,361 --> 00:20:39,613 Hey, when it comes to the data we can get from this thing, 421 00:20:39,739 --> 00:20:41,699 absolutely. - OK. 422 00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:48,496 Whoa, it still feels wet. 423 00:20:48,497 --> 00:20:50,415 If it's still wet, that means it's fresh, right? 424 00:20:50,416 --> 00:20:51,417 I'm gonna bag it up. 425 00:20:56,338 --> 00:20:57,589 It's a great find. 426 00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:59,925 Before we go, I'm thinking if we put a camera trap on this 427 00:21:00,050 --> 00:21:02,802 tree angled up, we may be able to catch whatever comes back 428 00:21:02,803 --> 00:21:04,305 to this branch. - Good idea. 429 00:21:06,682 --> 00:21:08,601 Here, you just angle it up. 430 00:21:08,726 --> 00:21:10,394 Yeah, it's perfect. 431 00:21:12,855 --> 00:21:13,856 It looks good. 432 00:21:15,566 --> 00:21:17,067 - OK, let's get moving. - OK. 433 00:21:19,987 --> 00:21:22,489 Heather and I continue searching for evidence, 434 00:21:22,490 --> 00:21:25,533 but it becomes clear that whatever we were chasing has 435 00:21:25,534 --> 00:21:27,328 already flown the nest. 436 00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:30,121 The next morning, we check in with Josh to update him 437 00:21:30,122 --> 00:21:32,332 on our investigation so far. 438 00:21:32,333 --> 00:21:35,669 Well, well, if it isn't my avian associates. 439 00:21:35,795 --> 00:21:37,879 - Hey, Gates. - How's it going out there? 440 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,299 - Or should I say up there? - It's going great. 441 00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:44,345 We found the biggest bird regurgitation pellets I have 442 00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:46,805 ever seen. - Phil, God bless you. 443 00:21:46,806 --> 00:21:49,016 You are the only man I know that could get this excited 444 00:21:49,141 --> 00:21:50,142 about bird vomit. 445 00:21:50,267 --> 00:21:52,353 - He really is excited. - I am. 446 00:21:52,478 --> 00:21:54,646 So I reached out to a local bird expert. 447 00:21:54,647 --> 00:21:57,732 Her name is Katie Fallon, and she studied how eagles, 448 00:21:57,733 --> 00:22:00,527 hawks, and falcons hunt prey. 449 00:22:00,528 --> 00:22:04,030 I want to use that know-how to inform our next investigation. 450 00:22:04,031 --> 00:22:07,200 OK, well, while you're checking out your puke nugget, 451 00:22:07,201 --> 00:22:09,702 I got another witness for you, an Army veteran named 452 00:22:09,703 --> 00:22:13,373 Aaron Schachte, who claims to have had multiple close calls 453 00:22:13,374 --> 00:22:16,251 with this terrifying creature and thinks he knows where 454 00:22:16,252 --> 00:22:17,544 to find it. - Amazing. 455 00:22:17,545 --> 00:22:18,753 I would love to meet him. 456 00:22:18,754 --> 00:22:19,839 All right, guys, well, get to it. 457 00:22:19,964 --> 00:22:21,881 The early bird catches the worm. 458 00:22:21,882 --> 00:22:22,967 - Bye, Gates. - See ya. 459 00:22:26,387 --> 00:22:29,430 I'm heading to Chestnut Ridge, where the eerie recording 460 00:22:29,431 --> 00:22:32,517 of the supposed Thunderbird was made, to meet with a witness 461 00:22:32,518 --> 00:22:34,270 who may have a lead on its whereabouts. 462 00:22:36,689 --> 00:22:39,732 Aaron Schachte has called Pennsylvania home for decades, 463 00:22:39,733 --> 00:22:42,527 but lately, he suspects he's been sharing his backyard 464 00:22:42,528 --> 00:22:44,321 with a monster from the skies. 465 00:22:45,406 --> 00:22:47,282 So we're here looking for the Thunderbird, 466 00:22:47,283 --> 00:22:49,201 and I understand you've seen it a couple of times. 467 00:22:49,326 --> 00:22:50,910 - Yes, I have. - Walk me through that. 468 00:22:50,911 --> 00:22:54,205 The first time I seen it, it was later afternoon. 469 00:22:54,206 --> 00:22:56,876 I just got done cutting this here field. 470 00:22:57,001 --> 00:22:58,919 And I'm looking out there at the end of that field, 471 00:22:59,044 --> 00:23:00,712 and I see a tree stump. 472 00:23:00,713 --> 00:23:03,756 And I'm wondering, "How is there a tree stump in the middle 473 00:23:03,757 --> 00:23:05,925 of my field? I just cut this." 474 00:23:05,926 --> 00:23:10,263 So I start walking up on it, and I got maybe 40-some feet 475 00:23:10,264 --> 00:23:11,472 away from it. 476 00:23:11,473 --> 00:23:13,601 And I'm looking at it, and I'm thinking, "It doesn't 477 00:23:13,726 --> 00:23:16,562 look like a tree stump anymore. That's a bird." 478 00:23:16,687 --> 00:23:19,273 It was like this, like a vampire. 479 00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:23,276 Then it pops its head up, and it's looking at me, mad. 480 00:23:23,277 --> 00:23:25,571 Like, "Why are you here? 481 00:23:25,696 --> 00:23:27,989 You're invading my territory." 482 00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:30,074 And it spreads its wings. 483 00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:34,287 It leans into the breeze like a kite, and it goes one flap. 484 00:23:34,288 --> 00:23:35,289 It's up in the air. 485 00:23:37,833 --> 00:23:40,252 It starts coming right at me. I'm like, "Jeez." 486 00:23:40,377 --> 00:23:42,296 So I duck to get out of its way. 487 00:23:45,299 --> 00:23:46,841 Do you feel like he was charging you? 488 00:23:46,842 --> 00:23:48,593 Yes. He looked very mad 489 00:23:48,594 --> 00:23:50,011 when he was looking at me. 490 00:23:50,012 --> 00:23:52,598 - This was his territory? - This is his yard. 491 00:23:52,723 --> 00:23:54,975 So there was no way he was another large bird? 492 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:57,101 No-- we know all the birds out here. 493 00:23:57,102 --> 00:24:00,813 We know the turkey buzzards, the eagles, hawks. 494 00:24:00,814 --> 00:24:06,111 This was nothing like that, not even in the same category. 495 00:24:06,236 --> 00:24:10,115 You're talking miniature, and I'm talking monster. 496 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,451 It went up into the air. 497 00:24:13,452 --> 00:24:16,121 And right over on this side, there was turkey buzzards. 498 00:24:16,246 --> 00:24:19,499 They were doing circles, and it went up there with them, 499 00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:23,378 and it made them look like this big compared to my hand. 500 00:24:23,379 --> 00:24:25,130 That's how big he was. 501 00:24:25,255 --> 00:24:26,674 You think you were looking at a Thunderbird? 502 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:28,801 I never heard of a Thunderbird before. 503 00:24:28,926 --> 00:24:30,094 I don't know what it was. 504 00:24:32,888 --> 00:24:34,806 I head to neighboring West Virginia to visit 505 00:24:34,807 --> 00:24:38,310 the Avian Conservation Center of Appalachia. 506 00:24:38,435 --> 00:24:40,520 - Hey, Katie. - Hey, Phil. 507 00:24:40,521 --> 00:24:41,854 I'm just about to feed the birds. 508 00:24:41,855 --> 00:24:42,897 Would you like to help? 509 00:24:42,898 --> 00:24:44,691 I would love to. 510 00:24:44,692 --> 00:24:47,361 Katie Fallon is a birds of prey specialist with 511 00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:50,238 an encyclopedic knowledge of the region's biggest 512 00:24:50,239 --> 00:24:51,572 avian predators. 513 00:24:51,573 --> 00:24:52,866 Here's some fish. 514 00:24:52,992 --> 00:24:54,242 Look at those talons. 515 00:24:54,243 --> 00:24:57,870 I'm hoping she can shed light on what we've been chasing. 516 00:24:57,871 --> 00:25:00,081 Woo-hoo-hoo! 517 00:25:00,082 --> 00:25:02,668 Wow, you are beautiful. 518 00:25:04,586 --> 00:25:08,047 So we're looking into reports of something absolutely massive 519 00:25:08,048 --> 00:25:09,550 that has been seen flying around here. 520 00:25:09,675 --> 00:25:11,509 Some people are saying it's Thunderbird, 521 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:13,220 and that's why I came to you. 522 00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:14,595 Tell me about the big birds 523 00:25:14,596 --> 00:25:16,389 that could be flying around here. 524 00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:19,851 The giant birds flying around here would be bald eagles, 525 00:25:19,852 --> 00:25:24,523 golden eagles, great horned owls, turkey vultures. 526 00:25:24,648 --> 00:25:27,692 Biggest of those birds has about a six-foot wingspan. 527 00:25:27,693 --> 00:25:29,361 It's interesting because what people are describing, 528 00:25:29,486 --> 00:25:32,739 they say 60 to 80-foot wingspan. 529 00:25:32,740 --> 00:25:35,908 It's very difficult to judge the size of a bird in flight. 530 00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:38,369 Birds are often described as being a lot bigger 531 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:40,288 than they actually are. 532 00:25:40,289 --> 00:25:42,082 I'd like to play for you an audio recording 533 00:25:42,207 --> 00:25:43,375 that we were sent. - OK. 534 00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:45,543 Because I'm still trying to figure out what it is that 535 00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:46,962 this person was hearing. 536 00:25:55,179 --> 00:25:57,138 I'm not sure what that is. 537 00:25:57,139 --> 00:25:58,890 That's kind of how I felt about it, too. 538 00:25:58,891 --> 00:26:00,601 I could not identify that noise. 539 00:26:01,727 --> 00:26:02,936 There's one more thing I want to show you. 540 00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:06,398 Something that we found on the ground that looked 541 00:26:06,523 --> 00:26:09,275 suspiciously like a pellet. 542 00:26:09,276 --> 00:26:10,402 It does look like a pellet. 543 00:26:10,527 --> 00:26:11,944 - There's bones. - Some of the fur. 544 00:26:11,945 --> 00:26:13,237 - Fur. - Look at the size. 545 00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:15,073 There's my hand for comparison. 546 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:16,282 I mean, it's a large pellet. 547 00:26:16,283 --> 00:26:18,243 It could be a great horned owl. 548 00:26:18,368 --> 00:26:19,912 Really? They get that big? 549 00:26:20,037 --> 00:26:22,121 Well, possibly, I mean, if a great horned owl 550 00:26:22,122 --> 00:26:24,332 ate something that's very big, 551 00:26:24,333 --> 00:26:26,460 potentially large prey. 552 00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:28,753 But there's always the chance that something from 553 00:26:28,754 --> 00:26:30,588 somewhere else could have shown up. 554 00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:33,633 I mean, a Steller's sea eagle was here in the U.S. 555 00:26:33,634 --> 00:26:35,468 No one could really explain how it got here, 556 00:26:35,469 --> 00:26:36,637 but it's a massive bird. 557 00:26:36,762 --> 00:26:37,929 If you were one of these birds, 558 00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:39,263 where would you be hiding? 559 00:26:39,264 --> 00:26:42,101 I would be probably on a rocky outcrop somewhere where there's 560 00:26:42,226 --> 00:26:45,312 a lot of wind, because a bird of any large size is going 561 00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:48,107 to need a lot of wind to help them fly. 562 00:26:48,232 --> 00:26:49,941 So cliffs and wind? 563 00:26:49,942 --> 00:26:52,860 Yes, but you need to be careful if you're going to be 564 00:26:52,861 --> 00:26:55,363 around a predatory bird's nest. 565 00:26:55,364 --> 00:26:58,950 A lot of raptors are territorial around their nest sites, 566 00:26:58,951 --> 00:27:01,452 and they will fly at people and even graze 567 00:27:01,453 --> 00:27:04,331 their heads with their talons and cause an abrasion. 568 00:27:04,456 --> 00:27:06,500 These are birds not to be messed with. 569 00:27:06,625 --> 00:27:07,709 You got it. 570 00:27:09,378 --> 00:27:11,463 But that's not the only time you saw this thing. 571 00:27:11,588 --> 00:27:13,714 No, the second time I seen it, 572 00:27:13,715 --> 00:27:16,008 I came out, and I was down on my barn. 573 00:27:16,009 --> 00:27:19,304 I'm up 18 feet in the air, doing some hammering, 574 00:27:19,429 --> 00:27:21,348 and all of a sudden, I'm in the shade. 575 00:27:21,473 --> 00:27:22,808 So, I look up. 576 00:27:22,933 --> 00:27:26,019 Another big bird is doing laps around me. 577 00:27:26,145 --> 00:27:27,980 I was the center of the circle. 578 00:27:28,105 --> 00:27:29,897 He had his eye on you. 579 00:27:29,898 --> 00:27:31,650 Yes. "I'm prey." 580 00:27:31,775 --> 00:27:33,651 That's what I was thinking. 581 00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:35,863 You think it was the same bird that you saw previously? 582 00:27:35,988 --> 00:27:39,031 It looked like it. It was the same size. 583 00:27:39,032 --> 00:27:40,324 And it... 584 00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:43,035 ...glid off through the cow pasture and went down towards 585 00:27:43,036 --> 00:27:44,705 Chestnut Ridge, I'm thinking, 586 00:27:44,830 --> 00:27:47,206 "Good, thank goodness." 587 00:27:47,207 --> 00:27:49,083 God bless America. 588 00:27:49,084 --> 00:27:51,377 As you can see, the Thunderbird should be 589 00:27:51,378 --> 00:27:53,045 showing up now. There was just a big hunk... 590 00:27:53,046 --> 00:27:54,464 - Right? - ...of lightning behind you. 591 00:27:57,926 --> 00:27:59,844 I rendezvous with Phil, and we follow Aaron's 592 00:27:59,845 --> 00:28:02,556 directions into the nearby Chestnut Ridge wilderness 593 00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:05,099 to begin our investigation. 594 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:08,561 Using a topographical map, Phil has pinpointed a remote 595 00:28:08,562 --> 00:28:09,896 cliff face that should be 596 00:28:09,897 --> 00:28:11,815 an ideal vantage point above the tree line. 597 00:28:14,484 --> 00:28:15,569 - See that up there? - Yeah. 598 00:28:16,945 --> 00:28:19,113 I think we found our cliffs. 599 00:28:19,114 --> 00:28:21,992 Now we just got to go up. I think up through here. 600 00:28:26,205 --> 00:28:27,539 Look at this place. 601 00:28:32,294 --> 00:28:34,588 Wow. It goes straight up. 602 00:28:35,672 --> 00:28:39,967 Hey, if this thing exists, whatever it is, up on one 603 00:28:39,968 --> 00:28:41,929 of those ledges could be our best chance to find it. 604 00:28:42,054 --> 00:28:43,222 - Let's get harnessed up? - Yeah. 605 00:28:43,347 --> 00:28:44,348 OK. 606 00:28:51,146 --> 00:28:52,438 Ready to do this? You got me? 607 00:28:52,439 --> 00:28:54,148 Let's hope so. 608 00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:56,400 That's the confidence I need when I'm climbing 609 00:28:56,401 --> 00:28:58,403 a 100-foot cliff. - You got this. 610 00:28:59,446 --> 00:29:01,113 OK. I'll bring a rope up, 611 00:29:01,114 --> 00:29:02,574 drop down the safety line, and see what 612 00:29:02,699 --> 00:29:04,243 we find up there. - Go for it. 613 00:29:04,368 --> 00:29:05,369 Climb on. 614 00:29:12,918 --> 00:29:14,294 OK. 615 00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:15,420 All right. 616 00:29:30,227 --> 00:29:33,981 So every single ledge I get to is a potential nesting spot. 617 00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:36,607 So, I do inspect for anything 618 00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:37,984 that may be living here 619 00:29:37,985 --> 00:29:40,194 or may have lived here in the past. 620 00:29:40,195 --> 00:29:42,197 This one looked pretty empty. 621 00:29:43,198 --> 00:29:45,117 So, gotta keep going up. 622 00:29:45,242 --> 00:29:46,785 - OK, climbing. - Climb on. 623 00:29:54,042 --> 00:29:55,335 - Heather. - Yeah? 624 00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:56,794 I think... 625 00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:58,838 - I see a feather up here. - No way! 626 00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:01,007 Yes, it's over on this ledge to my right. 627 00:30:01,008 --> 00:30:02,174 How big? 628 00:30:02,175 --> 00:30:05,219 I mean, it's no songbird. 629 00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:06,847 Something big might be nesting up here, Heather. 630 00:30:06,972 --> 00:30:08,139 OK. 631 00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:10,057 I'm gonna try to swing over and get to it. 632 00:30:10,058 --> 00:30:12,019 - I got to get eyes on it. - Copy that. 633 00:30:12,144 --> 00:30:13,519 - All right, you got me? - Got you. 634 00:30:14,730 --> 00:30:15,814 One... 635 00:30:16,982 --> 00:30:18,357 two, 636 00:30:18,358 --> 00:30:20,152 three. 637 00:30:21,737 --> 00:30:23,613 - Oh [bleep], oh. - Phil! 638 00:30:28,869 --> 00:30:32,079 Oh [bleep], oh! Whoa! 639 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,041 Oh, my God. 640 00:30:35,125 --> 00:30:37,585 - Oh. - Are you OK? 641 00:30:37,586 --> 00:30:40,004 I'm OK. Thanks for catching me there. 642 00:30:40,005 --> 00:30:41,297 I got you. 643 00:30:42,883 --> 00:30:46,136 - You're heavy, but I got you. - OK. 644 00:30:46,261 --> 00:30:48,471 I don't think I can get to it. 645 00:30:48,472 --> 00:30:51,766 But I should film with the GoPro, pick up as many 646 00:30:51,767 --> 00:30:53,517 details on it as possible. 647 00:30:53,518 --> 00:30:55,311 We can look at the video and try to identify what 648 00:30:55,312 --> 00:30:56,897 species was up here. - Copy that. 649 00:31:04,988 --> 00:31:07,449 OK. I got something. 650 00:31:07,574 --> 00:31:10,534 - Hopefully, it's enough. - OK. 651 00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:12,412 All right. Time to finish this climb. 652 00:31:21,588 --> 00:31:22,589 Oh... 653 00:31:24,216 --> 00:31:25,716 There was a moment there 654 00:31:25,717 --> 00:31:27,301 where I didn't think I would make it. 655 00:31:29,137 --> 00:31:31,806 Let's get the bag up, then let's get you up. 656 00:31:31,807 --> 00:31:33,642 - Deal? - Deal. 657 00:31:33,767 --> 00:31:35,310 - Bag's ready. - OK. 658 00:31:38,146 --> 00:31:39,647 All right, Heather, you got to come up quick. 659 00:31:39,648 --> 00:31:41,357 - We're losing light. - Climbing. 660 00:31:47,823 --> 00:31:49,157 - How we doing, Heather? - Great. 661 00:31:54,704 --> 00:31:55,705 All right, Heather. Almost there. 662 00:31:58,667 --> 00:31:59,876 - You got it? - Yeah. 663 00:32:00,001 --> 00:32:01,545 OK. 664 00:32:01,670 --> 00:32:03,672 Keep going. 665 00:32:06,133 --> 00:32:08,135 All right. Nicely done. 666 00:32:13,098 --> 00:32:16,016 Wow. Look at that view. 667 00:32:16,017 --> 00:32:17,811 - It's incredible. - Absolutely. 668 00:32:19,062 --> 00:32:20,229 This is our spot. 669 00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:22,106 After that climb, it better be. 670 00:32:22,107 --> 00:32:23,191 Let's get set up. 671 00:32:28,363 --> 00:32:31,074 If there are any so-called Thunderbirds in the area, 672 00:32:31,199 --> 00:32:34,369 we're hoping to lure them to us before they nest for the night 673 00:32:34,494 --> 00:32:36,246 by using our game caller. 674 00:32:36,371 --> 00:32:39,207 I've loaded it with the sounds of two birds 675 00:32:39,332 --> 00:32:41,251 that could help us tonight. One is wild turkey 676 00:32:41,376 --> 00:32:43,586 because it could be prey, and the other is 677 00:32:43,587 --> 00:32:45,755 great horned owl because that could be perceived 678 00:32:45,881 --> 00:32:47,715 as competition. 679 00:32:47,716 --> 00:32:50,719 So, got the calls loaded up on the FOXPRO. 680 00:32:50,844 --> 00:32:54,472 I've got a highly sensitive, omnidirectional microphone, 681 00:32:54,473 --> 00:32:56,432 which is attached to my phone, 682 00:32:56,433 --> 00:32:58,602 and a bird-identifying software. 683 00:32:58,727 --> 00:33:00,811 This will identify all the known birds around here, 684 00:33:00,812 --> 00:33:03,314 from a whip-poor-will to a warbler. 685 00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:05,567 So if I hear something that it doesn't know... 686 00:33:05,692 --> 00:33:07,569 Then, yeah, we'll have that documented, too. 687 00:33:07,694 --> 00:33:08,737 Awesome. 688 00:33:08,862 --> 00:33:10,238 I'm setting it to record now. 689 00:33:11,740 --> 00:33:13,575 We'll see what it picks up. 690 00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:15,076 First up, turkey dinner. 691 00:33:17,871 --> 00:33:20,080 All right, night-vision binoculars 692 00:33:20,081 --> 00:33:22,083 on and recording. 693 00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:25,337 Got the thermal scope going. 694 00:33:43,563 --> 00:33:45,398 - Got anything, Heather? - Nada. 695 00:33:52,948 --> 00:33:54,616 Next up, the great horned owl. 696 00:34:05,585 --> 00:34:07,837 Jesus, oh my God. 697 00:34:07,963 --> 00:34:10,173 - That was the owl too? - Yeah. 698 00:34:10,298 --> 00:34:12,092 They make some crazy noises. 699 00:34:15,637 --> 00:34:18,181 Anything flying in over the treetops? 700 00:34:18,306 --> 00:34:19,473 I don't see anything yet. 701 00:34:19,474 --> 00:34:20,475 Yeah, me neither. 702 00:34:26,231 --> 00:34:27,523 Oh, did you hear that? 703 00:34:27,524 --> 00:34:28,649 Did you hear that? 704 00:34:28,650 --> 00:34:30,484 I heard that. 705 00:34:30,485 --> 00:34:31,987 That was a big branch over there. 706 00:34:34,489 --> 00:34:35,490 Maybe something landed. 707 00:34:37,492 --> 00:34:39,661 - Can you see it? - I don't see anything. 708 00:34:40,704 --> 00:34:41,705 Me neither. 709 00:34:42,789 --> 00:34:45,041 But that sounded right along the edge of the rocks here. 710 00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:46,167 Yes. 711 00:34:52,299 --> 00:34:53,300 What the hell is that? 712 00:35:00,849 --> 00:35:03,310 Capturing an actual photograph of the Thunderbird would 713 00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:04,518 make history. 714 00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:08,273 And, amazingly, one such photo is said to exist. 715 00:35:08,398 --> 00:35:12,151 The first mention of a picture of the bird comes in a 1963 716 00:35:12,152 --> 00:35:15,113 magazine article by Jack Pearl. 717 00:35:15,238 --> 00:35:19,325 He describes a photo from an 1890 edition of Arizona's 718 00:35:19,326 --> 00:35:23,622 "Tombstone Epitaph" newspaper, featuring six cowboys standing 719 00:35:23,747 --> 00:35:25,332 below the outstretched wings 720 00:35:25,457 --> 00:35:28,001 of a massive bird the size of a barn, 721 00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:29,502 nailed to the wall. 722 00:35:30,712 --> 00:35:33,714 But there is also an equally massive problem. 723 00:35:33,715 --> 00:35:36,300 When Thunderbird sleuths searched the "Epitaph's" 724 00:35:36,301 --> 00:35:38,178 archives, they found the story, 725 00:35:38,303 --> 00:35:41,138 but there was no associated image. 726 00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:44,058 So did the journalist make the photo up? 727 00:35:44,059 --> 00:35:46,645 Well, believers say "No," and they're still scouring 728 00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:49,773 Old West archives for that picture-perfect proof. 729 00:35:50,774 --> 00:35:53,526 But for now, at least, finding the photograph remains 730 00:35:53,652 --> 00:35:56,321 as elusive as finding the Thunderbird itself. 731 00:36:04,621 --> 00:36:06,206 - What is that? - I don't know. 732 00:36:07,916 --> 00:36:09,084 Is it recording? 733 00:36:09,209 --> 00:36:11,460 It's recorded, but it's not identified. 734 00:36:11,461 --> 00:36:12,962 - Didn't identify it? - No. 735 00:36:15,548 --> 00:36:18,509 OK. That sounded big. 736 00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:19,677 Yeah. 737 00:36:19,678 --> 00:36:20,928 Oh, over there, to the right. 738 00:36:20,929 --> 00:36:22,639 What do you see? 739 00:36:22,764 --> 00:36:24,640 Something just came in behind the tree over there. 740 00:36:27,936 --> 00:36:30,647 I couldn't tell if it was flying, but that was right where 741 00:36:30,772 --> 00:36:31,773 we heard that noise before. 742 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,443 I gotta get over there, go check it out. 743 00:36:35,568 --> 00:36:36,985 I'll stay up here and watch your back. 744 00:36:36,986 --> 00:36:38,862 OK. 745 00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:40,073 Keep your eyes to the sky. 746 00:36:47,288 --> 00:36:49,207 It's really thick in here. 747 00:37:01,636 --> 00:37:03,847 Yeah, just follow the cliff. 748 00:37:03,972 --> 00:37:07,016 Judging by what I saw on the thermal, 749 00:37:07,142 --> 00:37:09,853 whatever we've been hearing should be right around here. 750 00:37:13,523 --> 00:37:16,860 That was really unusual. 751 00:37:22,282 --> 00:37:23,283 Not seeing anything. 752 00:37:26,661 --> 00:37:30,039 But whatever it was that made that noise was close. 753 00:37:33,835 --> 00:37:35,378 OK, we're getting close. 754 00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:38,798 Let's see what's around this corner. 755 00:37:56,691 --> 00:37:57,859 Oh, look at that. 756 00:37:59,861 --> 00:38:00,862 Right here, look. 757 00:38:02,405 --> 00:38:04,740 Oh, my God. 758 00:38:04,741 --> 00:38:05,950 Wow! 759 00:38:07,368 --> 00:38:08,536 Heather, I got a nest. 760 00:38:09,704 --> 00:38:11,706 Follow the cliffside. And also, grab my phone. 761 00:38:11,831 --> 00:38:13,457 We gotta take some photos of this. 762 00:38:13,458 --> 00:38:14,459 Copy that. I'm on my way. 763 00:38:15,919 --> 00:38:17,629 Absolutely amazing. 764 00:38:23,384 --> 00:38:24,593 There he is. 765 00:38:24,594 --> 00:38:25,720 Phil. 766 00:38:25,845 --> 00:38:27,221 Yeah. 767 00:38:27,222 --> 00:38:28,806 Check this out. 768 00:38:28,807 --> 00:38:30,433 Look. 769 00:38:30,558 --> 00:38:31,559 What! 770 00:38:32,769 --> 00:38:34,270 Yeah. I think... 771 00:38:35,396 --> 00:38:37,981 this used to be an active nest, and it is... 772 00:38:37,982 --> 00:38:40,442 - Huge. - Yes! 773 00:38:40,443 --> 00:38:41,736 I don't see any feathers, do you? 774 00:38:41,861 --> 00:38:42,945 No. 775 00:38:42,946 --> 00:38:44,948 And I'm also not seeing bird droppings. 776 00:38:45,073 --> 00:38:48,116 That really tells me this hasn't been active for a while. 777 00:38:48,117 --> 00:38:51,745 But whatever lived here had to have been big. 778 00:38:51,746 --> 00:38:52,830 What could have lived here? 779 00:38:52,831 --> 00:38:54,790 I don't know. 780 00:38:54,791 --> 00:38:56,333 I've never seen anything like this. 781 00:38:56,334 --> 00:38:57,460 You have my phone? 782 00:38:57,585 --> 00:38:59,629 - Yeah. - OK. 783 00:38:59,754 --> 00:39:02,423 Phil and Heather thoroughly documented and analyzed 784 00:39:02,549 --> 00:39:06,135 the gigantic nest, careful not to disturb it in case it was 785 00:39:06,261 --> 00:39:11,139 still in use, whether by a bird that's known or perhaps a bird 786 00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:12,766 that's monstrous. 787 00:39:12,767 --> 00:39:16,436 The nest measured two feet tall and a little over nine feet 788 00:39:16,437 --> 00:39:19,983 wide, although one side was partially destroyed, so it 789 00:39:20,108 --> 00:39:23,026 could have originally been even larger. 790 00:39:23,027 --> 00:39:25,780 It was also positioned at the very edge of the ridge, 791 00:39:25,905 --> 00:39:28,324 giving a vantage for attack. 792 00:39:28,449 --> 00:39:31,326 If you're a big bird here and you need to take off, 793 00:39:31,327 --> 00:39:34,497 this is your launching point, riding that updraft 794 00:39:34,622 --> 00:39:35,831 along the cliff. 795 00:39:35,832 --> 00:39:38,625 But was this really the home of a Thunderbird? 796 00:39:40,795 --> 00:39:41,963 The dark gray feather 797 00:39:42,088 --> 00:39:45,132 Phil found on his climb up the cliff face matches that 798 00:39:45,133 --> 00:39:46,926 of the wing of a bald eagle. 799 00:39:48,511 --> 00:39:52,014 The nest's size also appears to match one that could belong 800 00:39:52,015 --> 00:39:55,058 to a mating pair of bald eagles. 801 00:39:55,059 --> 00:39:58,146 But the sound that Heather and Phil heard on the cliff top 802 00:39:58,271 --> 00:40:00,189 was most certainly from something else. 803 00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:05,319 When Phil's identification app failed to recognize it, 804 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,197 he sent the clip to Katie at the Avian Conservation Center. 805 00:40:09,198 --> 00:40:12,326 She identified this as the call of a barred owl. 806 00:40:14,370 --> 00:40:17,164 Specifically, one that was feeling threatened. 807 00:40:17,165 --> 00:40:20,043 Was the owl alarmed by the calls Phil was playing? 808 00:40:21,836 --> 00:40:23,879 Or by something bigger? 809 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,048 Look. 810 00:40:26,049 --> 00:40:28,509 Because the team did find a piece of evidence that 811 00:40:28,635 --> 00:40:31,720 indicated a much larger predator is stalking 812 00:40:31,721 --> 00:40:34,933 these skies-- the huge regurgitation pellet. 813 00:40:36,601 --> 00:40:39,394 Phil analyzed the pellet back at HQ and made 814 00:40:39,395 --> 00:40:41,438 an astonishing discovery. 815 00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:44,233 It contained the digested bones of an adult cat. 816 00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:50,948 So, is the Thunderbird flying high in the skies 817 00:40:50,949 --> 00:40:52,200 of Pennsylvania? 818 00:40:52,325 --> 00:40:55,202 Well, if the feather and nest that the team found do belong 819 00:40:55,203 --> 00:40:57,913 to a bald eagle, those birds have a wingspan of 820 00:40:57,914 --> 00:40:59,582 up to 7 and a half feet, 821 00:40:59,707 --> 00:41:03,293 a huge size that could perhaps be misidentified 822 00:41:03,294 --> 00:41:04,711 as monstrous. 823 00:41:04,712 --> 00:41:07,881 As for the pellet, the local great horned owl does 824 00:41:07,882 --> 00:41:09,258 attack cats. 825 00:41:09,384 --> 00:41:11,094 It's not known to eat them whole, 826 00:41:11,219 --> 00:41:12,971 but it could certainly consume one. 827 00:41:14,347 --> 00:41:17,265 Putting these facts together, it seems unlikely that 828 00:41:17,266 --> 00:41:19,394 the Thunderbird is casting a shadow over 829 00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:21,645 the Allegheny Mountains. 830 00:41:21,646 --> 00:41:25,107 Although, try telling that to our terrified eyewitnesses. 831 00:41:25,108 --> 00:41:29,152 You're talking miniature, and I'm talking monster. 832 00:41:29,153 --> 00:41:31,447 But our official recommendation, to borrow 833 00:41:31,572 --> 00:41:34,909 a phrase, "don't count your Thunderbirds before they hatch." 62805

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