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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: WEBVTT 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:12.074 Do you want subtitles for any video? -=[ ai.OpenSubtitles.com ]=- 00:00:51.184 --> 00:00:54.288 Hey, one, two, three. 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:02.362 ♪ Now, red Solo cup is the best receptacle ♪ 00:01:02.396 --> 00:01:05.265 ♪ For barbecues, tailgates, fairs and festivals ♪ 00:01:05.299 --> 00:01:08.101 ♪ And you, sir, do not have a pair of testicles ♪ 00:01:08.135 --> 00:01:11.238 ♪ If you prefer drinking from glass, whoo ♪ 00:01:11.271 --> 00:01:13.841 - ♪ Red Solo cup ♪ - ♪ Uh-huh ♪ 00:01:13.875 --> 00:01:15.677 ♪ I fill you up ♪ 00:01:15.710 --> 00:01:18.278 ♪ Let's have a party ♪ 00:01:18.913 --> 00:01:21.649 ♪ Let's have a party ♪ 00:01:21.683 --> 00:01:24.586 ♪ I love you, red Solo cup ♪ 00:01:25.587 --> 00:01:27.321 ♪ I lift you up ♪ 00:01:27.354 --> 00:01:33.360 ♪ Proceed to party, proceed to party ♪ 00:01:34.328 --> 00:01:36.898 ♪ Now, I really love how you're easy to stack ♪ 00:01:36.931 --> 00:01:39.601 ♪ But I really hate how you're easy to crack ♪ 00:01:39.634 --> 00:01:42.604 ♪ 'Cause when beer runs down the front of my back ♪ 00:01:42.637 --> 00:01:45.607 ♪ Well, that, my friends, is quite yucky ♪ 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:48.442 ♪ But I have to admit that the ladies get smitten ♪ 00:01:48.475 --> 00:01:50.344 ♪ Admiring how sharply ♪ 00:01:50.377 --> 00:01:51.913 ♪ My first name is written ♪ 00:01:51.946 --> 00:01:54.348 ♪ On you with a Sharpie when I get to hitting ♪ 00:01:54.381 --> 00:01:57.484 ♪ On them to help me get lucky ♪ 00:01:57.518 --> 00:01:59.654 ♪ Red Solo cup ♪ 00:02:00.622 --> 00:02:02.222 ♪ I fill you up ♪ 00:02:02.255 --> 00:02:04.926 ♪ Let's have a party ♪ 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:09.429 ♪ Proceed to party ♪ 00:02:10.598 --> 00:02:13.367 - ♪ Solo cup ♪ - ♪ Bah, oh, doo ♪ 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:16.470 - ♪ Solo cup ♪ - ♪ Oh, bo, doo ♪ 00:02:16.504 --> 00:02:19.373 - ♪ Solo cup ♪ - ♪ Ah, oh, doo ♪ 00:02:19.406 --> 00:02:22.309 - ♪ Solo cup ♪ - ♪ Ah, ooh, doodle, da, doo ♪ 00:02:22.342 --> 00:02:25.312 - ♪ Solo cup ♪ - ♪ Uh-huh, mm ♪ 00:02:25.345 --> 00:02:28.315 - ♪ Solo cup ♪ - ♪ De, dum, dum ♪ 00:02:28.348 --> 00:02:31.284 - ♪ Solo cup ♪ - ♪ Ooh, de, da, bah. ♪ 00:02:42.329 --> 00:02:44.899 The potential in this room is astounding. 00:02:44.932 --> 00:02:46.199 I love the potential. 00:02:46.233 --> 00:02:47.669 Hundred percent. 00:02:47.702 --> 00:02:49.469 It's a world of infinite possibilities. 00:02:49.504 --> 00:02:51.338 - Infinite. - Hundred percent. 00:02:51.371 --> 00:02:53.808 How many "Y"s do I put in "Hey" at this time of night? 00:02:53.841 --> 00:02:55.342 - Is it before 2:00 a.m.? - Yeah. 00:02:55.375 --> 00:02:56.811 - Two "Y" s. - Okay. 00:02:56.844 --> 00:02:58.913 - Three is thirsty. - Thirsty. 00:02:58.946 --> 00:03:00.948 And one is curt. 00:03:00.982 --> 00:03:02.291 You know what I was thinking about? 00:03:02.315 --> 00:03:03.818 Cookie dough became so popular. 00:03:03.851 --> 00:03:05.929 It's 'cause it's not finished. It could still be anything. 00:03:05.953 --> 00:03:07.622 Hundred percent. 00:03:07.655 --> 00:03:09.432 Making cookies out of cookie dough is just a suggestion. 00:03:09.456 --> 00:03:10.768 - Hundred percent. - That's what they say 00:03:10.792 --> 00:03:12.359 - you could do with it. - Right. 00:03:12.392 --> 00:03:13.704 And the same thing... Like dating someone 00:03:13.728 --> 00:03:14.962 for more than a month. 00:03:14.996 --> 00:03:16.564 It's just a serving suggestion. 00:03:16.597 --> 00:03:18.432 Hundred percent. 00:03:18.465 --> 00:03:19.910 "Kara question mark." That means I don't remember 00:03:19.934 --> 00:03:21.502 - where I met her. - Okay. 00:03:21.536 --> 00:03:22.913 But it's a question mark with an exclamation point, 00:03:22.937 --> 00:03:24.672 which means I should want to follow up. 00:03:24.706 --> 00:03:26.684 -Let's see what the options are first though. -Yes. 00:03:26.708 --> 00:03:28.843 Exactly that. That's the world that we're living in. 00:03:28.876 --> 00:03:31.445 You can just see what the options are for anything. 00:03:31.478 --> 00:03:32.847 Like with travel. 00:03:32.880 --> 00:03:34.357 You're not gonna just pick the first flight you see. 00:03:34.381 --> 00:03:35.458 You want to see all the flights. 00:03:35.482 --> 00:03:36.751 - That's a good thing. - Yeah. 00:03:36.784 --> 00:03:38.385 You get the best flight that way. 00:03:38.418 --> 00:03:39.763 Why wouldn't you get the best person 00:03:39.787 --> 00:03:41.689 by looking at all the potential people? 00:03:41.723 --> 00:03:43.266 And how could you even expect to find one person 00:03:43.290 --> 00:03:44.759 who could fulfill all of your needs? 00:03:44.792 --> 00:03:47.929 It's easier just to find the most supportive person here. 00:03:47.962 --> 00:03:49.797 - The funniest person here. - Right. 00:03:49.831 --> 00:03:51.032 - The best sex here. - Right. 00:03:51.065 --> 00:03:52.332 The best advice here. 00:03:52.365 --> 00:03:53.935 The second-best sex here. 00:03:53.968 --> 00:03:55.402 Hundred percent. 00:03:55.435 --> 00:03:56.771 I don't ever want to go past 00:03:56.804 --> 00:03:58.549 knowing what someone's parents do for a living. 00:03:58.573 --> 00:04:00.017 If I know what someone's parents do for a living... 00:04:00.041 --> 00:04:01.809 - Right. Right. - I've hung too long. 00:04:01.843 --> 00:04:03.754 Or, like, siblings. Like, why does anyone want to know 00:04:03.778 --> 00:04:05.580 about your siblings? Especially so early. 00:04:05.613 --> 00:04:07.481 -Yeah. -"How many siblings do you have?" 00:04:07.515 --> 00:04:09.059 Has that ever changed whether you want to date somebody? 00:04:09.083 --> 00:04:10.761 It's like, "I have two sisters and a brother." 00:04:10.785 --> 00:04:12.419 - Whoa. Hold on. - Well, I'm out of here. 00:04:12.452 --> 00:04:13.764 - I'm out of here. - You know what I just say? 00:04:13.788 --> 00:04:15.499 I only date only children or the oldest of three. 00:04:15.523 --> 00:04:16.633 They say, "Exercise your options." 00:04:16.657 --> 00:04:17.692 It's like a muscle. 00:04:17.725 --> 00:04:19.627 - Options are like a muscle. - Yeah. 00:04:19.660 --> 00:04:21.796 Some people are weak and atrophied, 00:04:21.829 --> 00:04:23.064 and they don't understand 00:04:23.097 --> 00:04:24.766 - how to exercise their options. - Yeah. 00:04:24.799 --> 00:04:28.335 My options are burly and strong and turgid. 00:04:28.368 --> 00:04:29.937 Hundred percent. 00:04:29.971 --> 00:04:32.339 People say guys like us are afraid of commitment. 00:04:32.372 --> 00:04:33.908 No. We're afraid of commitment 00:04:33.941 --> 00:04:35.442 to something we can't get out of. 00:04:35.475 --> 00:04:37.054 There's no such thing as fear of commitment. 00:04:37.078 --> 00:04:39.479 Fear of commitment is fear of regret. 00:04:39.514 --> 00:04:41.448 Hundred percent. Or fear of intimacy. 00:04:41.481 --> 00:04:43.383 Please, I'm intimate with everybody. 00:04:43.416 --> 00:04:45.485 Do you ever wonder, 00:04:45.520 --> 00:04:48.556 if you did find something deeper with somebody, 00:04:48.589 --> 00:04:50.925 if that would somehow be more meaningful? 00:04:50.958 --> 00:04:52.927 I do sometimes. 00:04:52.960 --> 00:04:54.361 Like right now, I'm casually dating, 00:04:54.394 --> 00:04:55.797 like, six or seven different women. 00:04:55.830 --> 00:04:57.965 But I do wonder, deep down, what it would be like 00:04:57.999 --> 00:05:00.668 to seriously date two or three. 00:05:00.701 --> 00:05:02.770 Even when I don't understand you, 00:05:02.804 --> 00:05:04.939 I understand you better than I understand anybody. 00:05:04.972 --> 00:05:07.108 - Hundred percent. - I love when we hang out. 00:05:07.141 --> 00:05:09.409 This is like, if someone were recording this, 00:05:09.442 --> 00:05:10.878 that's what my podcast should be. 00:05:10.912 --> 00:05:13.014 There should be, like, the sound of a stand-up bass 00:05:13.047 --> 00:05:14.682 playing under me right now. 00:05:16.416 --> 00:05:17.450 Okay, I got one. 00:05:17.484 --> 00:05:19.620 "Brunette Random House Party." 00:05:19.654 --> 00:05:21.122 "Random House," the publisher? 00:05:21.155 --> 00:05:24.424 Or "random house," like a random house party? 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:26.894 Oh, "Emily Vogue." 00:05:26.928 --> 00:05:28.930 Uh, I'm gonna go with "Kara question mark" 00:05:28.963 --> 00:05:30.874 'cause I feel like letting the universe surprise me tonight. 00:05:30.898 --> 00:05:32.700 - What a time to be alive. - Hundred percent. 00:05:32.733 --> 00:05:33.911 - Hundred percent. - Hundred percent. 00:05:33.935 --> 00:05:35.036 Hundred percent. 00:05:35.069 --> 00:05:36.509 - Hundred percent. - Hundred percent. 00:05:37.972 --> 00:05:39.106 I figured it out. 00:05:39.140 --> 00:05:40.541 Figured what out? 00:05:40.575 --> 00:05:42.510 America. 00:05:42.543 --> 00:05:43.578 Okay. 00:05:43.611 --> 00:05:44.846 I know you're laughing, 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:46.056 but I have a pitch you're really gonna like. 00:05:46.080 --> 00:05:47.582 America is divided, 00:05:47.615 --> 00:05:49.817 but it's not for the reason that we think. 00:05:49.851 --> 00:05:52.520 We think that America's divided by geography: 00:05:52.553 --> 00:05:55.723 red state, blue state, city, country. 00:05:55.756 --> 00:05:58.092 We're missing something far more profound. 00:05:58.125 --> 00:05:59.994 America isn't divided by space. 00:06:00.027 --> 00:06:01.863 America is divided by time. 00:06:01.896 --> 00:06:03.764 -We don't live in the moment anymore. -Mm. 00:06:03.798 --> 00:06:05.867 And why would we, when we can live in any moment 00:06:05.900 --> 00:06:07.400 that's ever been recorded? 00:06:07.434 --> 00:06:09.537 And when we experience something we really love, 00:06:09.570 --> 00:06:10.738 our overwhelming instinct 00:06:10.771 --> 00:06:12.149 is to somehow file it away for later. 00:06:12.173 --> 00:06:13.608 That's interesting. 00:06:13.641 --> 00:06:15.543 We don't watch movies in the theater. 00:06:15.576 --> 00:06:16.911 We don't watch TV when it airs. 00:06:16.944 --> 00:06:20.748 We don't even have conversations at the same time 00:06:20.781 --> 00:06:21.549 because we text. 00:06:21.582 --> 00:06:23.751 And when you text, I can say, "Hi," 00:06:23.784 --> 00:06:25.620 and you could say "Hi" back in a second, 00:06:25.653 --> 00:06:27.822 - or a minute. - Or never. 00:06:27.855 --> 00:06:30.024 Or never 'cause it's you 00:06:30.057 --> 00:06:32.169 and you're too busy producing the biggest podcast in America, 00:06:32.193 --> 00:06:34.137 which is kind of my point because we're all living 00:06:34.161 --> 00:06:36.564 in our own individualized times. 00:06:36.597 --> 00:06:39.634 That's why we're living in divided times. 00:06:39.667 --> 00:06:40.677 That's... I like that. Ooh. 00:06:40.701 --> 00:06:42.503 - You like that? - Yeah. 00:06:42.536 --> 00:06:44.538 So, what do you think? Do you think that's a story? 00:06:45.907 --> 00:06:47.508 It's a theory. 00:06:47.541 --> 00:06:49.052 - A theory is a story. - No, a theory is not a story. 00:06:49.076 --> 00:06:50.187 Yes, it is when it's about an idea. 00:06:50.211 --> 00:06:51.946 And America is an idea. 00:06:51.979 --> 00:06:53.581 That's what makes it so great. 00:06:53.614 --> 00:06:55.750 - So, if you're... - No, America is its people. 00:06:55.783 --> 00:06:58.552 That's what makes it so fucked up. 00:06:58.586 --> 00:07:01.522 Hey. Not every white guy in New York 00:07:01.555 --> 00:07:02.957 needs to have a podcast. 00:07:02.990 --> 00:07:04.558 You have the verified check mark. 00:07:04.592 --> 00:07:06.227 You got the New Yorker position. 00:07:06.260 --> 00:07:07.561 I want something more. 00:07:07.595 --> 00:07:09.530 I don't just want to be a writer. 00:07:09.563 --> 00:07:11.666 I... I want to be a voice. 00:07:11.699 --> 00:07:14.702 As dorky as it sounds, I care about America. 00:07:14.735 --> 00:07:16.671 And not in that faded Lana Del Rey way. 00:07:16.704 --> 00:07:17.944 And now I see it falling apart, 00:07:17.972 --> 00:07:19.607 and we're just standing in the corner, 00:07:19.640 --> 00:07:21.809 like, making fun of it, you know? 00:07:21.842 --> 00:07:25.947 I'd like to try to tell some story that... connects. 00:07:25.980 --> 00:07:29.216 Okay, okay. Well, then... let me help you connect. 00:07:29.250 --> 00:07:31.218 With all your ideas about America... 00:07:31.252 --> 00:07:33.054 Even if they're good, right? 00:07:33.087 --> 00:07:34.555 You gotta put 'em in a story 00:07:34.588 --> 00:07:37.058 'cause Americans listen to stories. 00:07:37.091 --> 00:07:38.491 'Cause Americans are people. 00:07:38.526 --> 00:07:41.494 They're not... ideas. 00:07:41.529 --> 00:07:43.864 - You're-you're here. - Yeah. 00:07:43.898 --> 00:07:45.700 You need to be here. 00:07:45.733 --> 00:07:48.069 Does that make sense? 00:07:48.102 --> 00:07:50.004 Hundred percent. 00:07:51.305 --> 00:07:53.507 I'm Robin Dillon, 00:07:53.541 --> 00:07:54.976 and this is American Moment. 00:07:55.009 --> 00:07:58.512 To the organizers of the Western Montana fly-fishing... 00:08:19.133 --> 00:08:20.234 - Hi. - Hey. 00:08:20.267 --> 00:08:21.602 You changed your hair. 00:08:21.635 --> 00:08:23.137 - Yeah, you noticed. - Of course. 00:08:23.170 --> 00:08:24.739 How's the book world? 00:08:24.772 --> 00:08:26.007 The what? 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:27.975 Uh, nothing. Uh, can I get you a drink? 00:08:28.009 --> 00:08:29.110 - Yes. - Great. 00:08:29.143 --> 00:08:30.745 Um, what can I make you? 00:08:30.778 --> 00:08:33.014 Um, can you do, like, a white wine? 00:08:33.047 --> 00:08:34.248 Um, sure. 00:08:34.281 --> 00:08:35.683 I have to open a bottle for that. 00:08:35.716 --> 00:08:37.018 Oh, that's okay. Open it. 00:08:37.051 --> 00:08:39.286 I only want, like, one glass. 00:09:03.077 --> 00:09:05.646 - Hello? - Ben? 00:09:07.081 --> 00:09:09.283 Yeah. Hello? 00:09:09.316 --> 00:09:10.918 This is the worst phone call 00:09:10.951 --> 00:09:13.621 you're ever gonna get in your life. 00:09:13.654 --> 00:09:16.023 Oh, my God. 00:09:17.191 --> 00:09:19.760 Your girlfriend's dead. 00:09:19.794 --> 00:09:23.164 I'm sorry. Wh... What did you say? 00:09:23.197 --> 00:09:24.665 She's dead. 00:09:24.698 --> 00:09:26.300 No, no, the first part. 00:09:26.333 --> 00:09:27.935 Your girlfriend. 00:09:27.968 --> 00:09:28.803 Yeah, I'm sorry. 00:09:28.836 --> 00:09:31.072 Hey, I don't... I don't understand. 00:09:31.105 --> 00:09:32.740 I know. I know, I know. 00:09:32.773 --> 00:09:34.842 We can't make no sense of it either. 00:09:34.875 --> 00:09:37.378 Who is this? 00:09:37.411 --> 00:09:39.080 This is Ty Shaw. 00:09:39.113 --> 00:09:40.681 Abby's brother. 00:09:40.714 --> 00:09:43.818 Um, hey, I don't... I don't really know what to say. 00:09:43.851 --> 00:09:46.320 Oh, I know, I know this must be so hard to process. 00:09:46.353 --> 00:09:48.122 I'm so sorry. 00:09:48.155 --> 00:09:49.890 Abby told us so much about you. 00:09:49.924 --> 00:09:51.759 Abby. 00:09:52.393 --> 00:09:55.663 Oh, my God. 00:09:55.696 --> 00:09:57.098 Abby. 00:09:57.131 --> 00:09:59.200 Who's Abby? 00:09:59.233 --> 00:10:00.367 Uh, some girl. Um... 00:10:00.401 --> 00:10:03.204 - Who's that? - Uh, some... 00:10:04.038 --> 00:10:06.140 We definitely hung out a few times. 00:10:06.173 --> 00:10:08.109 I-I wouldn't have... 00:10:08.142 --> 00:10:09.343 Funeral's Sunday. 00:10:09.376 --> 00:10:11.045 Oh, my God. I'm, uh... 00:10:11.078 --> 00:10:12.913 Can you tell me where I can send flowers? 00:10:12.947 --> 00:10:15.416 Oh, there's no need to send flowers, Ben. 00:10:15.449 --> 00:10:16.851 Oh, no, no, no, no, no. 00:10:16.884 --> 00:10:18.285 I'm absolutely gonna send flowers. 00:10:18.319 --> 00:10:19.720 Just, uh, you tell me the address. 00:10:19.753 --> 00:10:21.255 See if you can text it to me. 00:10:21.288 --> 00:10:23.200 If you really want, there's a flower shop by the airport. 00:10:23.224 --> 00:10:26.127 We'll just swing by there when I pick you up. 00:10:26.160 --> 00:10:28.062 When you pick me up? 00:10:29.196 --> 00:10:31.198 Uh, hey. 00:10:31.232 --> 00:10:32.867 I will be there in spirit. 00:10:32.900 --> 00:10:34.668 Spirit Airlines. Right, man. 00:10:34.702 --> 00:10:35.870 That's a great choice. 00:10:35.903 --> 00:10:37.404 You just let me know what flight. 00:10:37.438 --> 00:10:40.774 Uh, hey, uh, I... 00:10:40.808 --> 00:10:42.309 This is just... 00:10:42.343 --> 00:10:43.444 I can't do this. 00:10:43.477 --> 00:10:45.212 None of us can do this. 00:10:45.246 --> 00:10:46.680 Not alone. 00:10:48.115 --> 00:10:50.718 Y'all had your whole future ahead of you. 00:10:50.751 --> 00:10:52.119 Okay. 00:10:52.153 --> 00:10:53.354 Okay, don't cry. 00:10:54.855 --> 00:10:56.891 I mean, no, cry. Cry. 00:10:56.924 --> 00:10:58.459 - Um, of course. - Oh, God. 00:10:58.492 --> 00:11:00.127 Be in touch with your emotions. Um... 00:11:00.161 --> 00:11:02.863 I can't believe we have to go through this. 00:11:02.897 --> 00:11:05.299 Okay. All right. Um, hey. 00:11:05.332 --> 00:11:07.301 Remind me where you guys are exactly. 00:11:07.334 --> 00:11:11.138 Well, you've been to Texas before? 00:11:14.041 --> 00:11:16.477 Texas. 00:11:16.511 --> 00:11:18.179 Okay, are you near Austin? 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:22.449 No, we're not near Austin. 00:11:22.483 --> 00:11:25.219 - Dallas? - Dallas ain't Texas. 00:11:26.153 --> 00:11:28.956 - Houston? - Houston's another country. 00:11:28.989 --> 00:11:30.925 Why don't you just tell me where... 00:11:30.958 --> 00:11:33.494 Have you heard of Abilene? The city. 00:11:33.528 --> 00:11:35.930 Never heard of Abilene, no. 00:11:35.963 --> 00:11:38.933 Well, Abilene is about three hours from Dallas. 00:11:38.966 --> 00:11:39.767 Okay. 00:11:39.800 --> 00:11:42.236 And we're five hours from Abilene. 00:11:51.145 --> 00:11:52.880 Ladies and gentlemen... 00:11:55.983 --> 00:11:57.818 Hey. Hi. 00:12:15.069 --> 00:12:16.870 And while she could be quite a handful 00:12:16.904 --> 00:12:18.906 when she was a girl... 00:12:22.276 --> 00:12:24.245 I can't believe I'm talking about my daughter 00:12:24.278 --> 00:12:26.313 in the past tense. 00:12:32.052 --> 00:12:34.488 She was living in New York. 00:12:34.522 --> 00:12:37.391 She was finding her voice in music. 00:12:37.424 --> 00:12:41.529 And she finally found love. 00:12:41.563 --> 00:12:43.565 Ben Manalowitz. 00:12:43.598 --> 00:12:45.165 A successful writer 00:12:45.199 --> 00:12:47.010 and a regular contributor to New York Magazine. 00:12:47.034 --> 00:12:49.003 The New Yorker. 00:12:49.036 --> 00:12:50.938 But even with all his success, 00:12:50.971 --> 00:12:54.041 he always respected our girl for who she was. 00:12:54.908 --> 00:12:56.176 "Mama," she said, 00:12:56.210 --> 00:12:59.113 "you know how he has me saved in his phone? 00:12:59.146 --> 00:13:00.247 Texas." 00:13:01.081 --> 00:13:03.884 Well, as short as her life was, 00:13:03.917 --> 00:13:05.486 she found her voice, 00:13:05.520 --> 00:13:08.322 and she found love. 00:13:08.355 --> 00:13:10.525 And that's all there is, right? 00:13:10.558 --> 00:13:13.794 That's right. 00:13:26.641 --> 00:13:28.208 Let's hear from Ben. 00:13:28.242 --> 00:13:29.577 - Go ahead. - Go on, Ben. 00:13:29.611 --> 00:13:31.045 No, I couldn't. 00:13:31.078 --> 00:13:32.580 - Thank you. - You got it. 00:13:32.614 --> 00:13:34.315 - Brother, come up. - Please say something. 00:13:34.348 --> 00:13:36.950 Get up there. 00:13:41.221 --> 00:13:43.824 Father. Sir. 00:13:50.632 --> 00:13:55.235 I never expected to be in a situation like this. 00:13:56.671 --> 00:13:58.238 I'm sure none of us did. 00:14:00.374 --> 00:14:03.344 I wish I had known her better. 00:14:04.244 --> 00:14:07.081 I wish I had spent more time with her. 00:14:07.948 --> 00:14:11.251 I'm sure all of us feel that... 00:14:11.285 --> 00:14:13.020 right now. 00:14:13.053 --> 00:14:14.288 Yes. 00:14:18.292 --> 00:14:20.060 She loved music. 00:14:21.061 --> 00:14:24.231 I know that. I know that. 00:14:24.264 --> 00:14:25.999 She loved music. 00:14:26.033 --> 00:14:28.202 Yeah. 00:14:31.138 --> 00:14:33.941 And... 00:14:35.677 --> 00:14:38.613 she will always be a song in our hearts. 00:14:52.560 --> 00:14:53.994 "Song in our hearts." 00:14:54.027 --> 00:14:56.598 Phew. You damn near broke me with that one. 00:14:56.631 --> 00:14:58.432 ♪ It's those eight-second chances ♪ 00:14:58.465 --> 00:15:00.267 ♪ And cowgirl glances ♪ 00:15:00.300 --> 00:15:04.672 ♪ It's the blood and the glory, baby, that's why we ride... ♪ 00:15:07.307 --> 00:15:09.143 Now, I don't know about you, but... 00:15:09.176 --> 00:15:11.087 I know it hasn't been long, but I feel like me and you, 00:15:11.111 --> 00:15:13.280 we got a real bond. 00:15:13.313 --> 00:15:14.549 Kind of like family. 00:15:14.582 --> 00:15:16.417 Hundred percent. 00:15:18.218 --> 00:15:19.486 Wow. 00:15:19.521 --> 00:15:21.288 A hundred percent? 00:15:22.289 --> 00:15:23.223 Yeah. 00:15:23.257 --> 00:15:25.560 Yeah. I felt really close to you guys today. 00:15:25.593 --> 00:15:28.128 Don't just say that to say it. 00:15:28.763 --> 00:15:31.198 - Yeah. - I knew it. 00:15:39.473 --> 00:15:41.308 Abilene just didn't die. 00:15:41.341 --> 00:15:43.143 She was murdered. 00:15:43.177 --> 00:15:46.079 And the two of us are gonna avenge her death. 00:15:47.414 --> 00:15:48.750 What? 00:15:48.783 --> 00:15:51.586 You and me, we're gonna track her killer down 00:15:51.619 --> 00:15:53.454 and deliver vengeance. 00:15:55.255 --> 00:15:58.025 Okay, nobody said anything about a killer. 00:15:58.058 --> 00:16:00.528 An overdose? 00:16:00.562 --> 00:16:02.229 At a party in an oil field? 00:16:02.262 --> 00:16:05.065 Yeah. The girl never took so much as an Advil in her life. 00:16:05.098 --> 00:16:07.502 You know that. You know her better than anybody. 00:16:09.203 --> 00:16:10.705 Did you call the police about this? 00:16:10.738 --> 00:16:14.107 In Texas, we don't dial 911. 00:16:14.776 --> 00:16:16.109 Not even for, like, a fire? 00:16:16.143 --> 00:16:17.712 Fire or ambulance, fine. 00:16:17.745 --> 00:16:19.681 Who do you think did it? 00:16:19.714 --> 00:16:21.181 I got a couple theories. 00:16:21.215 --> 00:16:24.218 Cartels. Mexican gangbanger I got my eyes on. 00:16:24.251 --> 00:16:25.787 I mean, this is just the beginning. 00:16:25.820 --> 00:16:27.154 It goes deep. 00:16:27.187 --> 00:16:29.524 And what's this based on? 00:16:29.557 --> 00:16:30.692 Gut. 00:16:30.725 --> 00:16:33.360 Right. What's behind that though? 00:16:34.194 --> 00:16:35.630 Ain't nothing behind gut. 00:16:35.663 --> 00:16:38.232 Gut's behind everything else. Otherwise, who are you? 00:16:38.265 --> 00:16:40.200 I really think this is something for the police. 00:16:40.234 --> 00:16:42.269 Yeah. You talk about the police 00:16:42.302 --> 00:16:44.171 like it's just the same everywhere. 00:16:44.204 --> 00:16:47.107 Like the police is, um, McDonald's 00:16:47.140 --> 00:16:48.810 and justice is an Egg McMuffin. 00:16:48.843 --> 00:16:50.612 We don't have the police. 00:16:50.645 --> 00:16:52.379 We got Mike and Dan. 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:58.085 You and me, we were the men in her life. 00:16:58.786 --> 00:17:01.255 And they fucked with the wrong two guys. 00:17:02.155 --> 00:17:04.458 Okay. Um... 00:17:04.491 --> 00:17:08.530 So, as, like, a personal boundary, 00:17:08.563 --> 00:17:10.130 like, everybody's different. 00:17:10.163 --> 00:17:11.666 Some people don't eat certain foods. 00:17:11.699 --> 00:17:14.234 You know, everybody... 00:17:14.268 --> 00:17:17.437 - I don't avenge deaths. - Mm-hmm. 00:17:17.471 --> 00:17:19.406 It's just who I am. 00:17:19.439 --> 00:17:22.644 I... You know, I don't live in a Liam Neeson movie. 00:17:23.645 --> 00:17:26.280 But you kind of look like a guy from a Liam Neeson movie though. 00:17:26.313 --> 00:17:27.549 Okay. 00:17:27.582 --> 00:17:29.216 Which one am I thinking about? 00:17:29.249 --> 00:17:30.718 It-it was a train. No, i-it was... 00:17:30.752 --> 00:17:32.152 - It was just on TV. - I don't know. 00:17:32.185 --> 00:17:34.187 Schindler's List. Oh, my God. 00:17:34.221 --> 00:17:37.291 You look like a lot of those guys in that movie. 00:17:37.324 --> 00:17:39.527 Yeah. Thanks. 00:17:39.561 --> 00:17:42.095 You know, that was my least favorite Liam Neeson movie. 00:17:42.129 --> 00:17:43.665 Huge downer. 00:17:43.698 --> 00:17:45.465 It was a really sad movie. 00:17:45.499 --> 00:17:47.669 Ty, I know that you're in a lot of pain. 00:17:47.702 --> 00:17:49.169 Oh, yes, sir. We both are. 00:17:49.202 --> 00:17:50.572 And you have a lot of anger. 00:17:50.605 --> 00:17:53.541 Goddamn it, I'm asking you for your help. 00:17:53.575 --> 00:17:56.443 If we don't do this, it's like leaving her body 00:17:56.476 --> 00:18:00.080 out in the middle of that desert for the rest of our lives. 00:18:01.281 --> 00:18:04.184 I know it the minute I saw you. 00:18:04.217 --> 00:18:07.254 'Cause heart sees heart. 00:18:08.221 --> 00:18:11.224 Stay down here and avenge Abby's death with me. 00:18:12.760 --> 00:18:15.630 Oh, what a story that would be. 00:18:24.672 --> 00:18:26.239 Is this a pocket dial? 00:18:26.273 --> 00:18:27.341 I have a story. 00:18:27.374 --> 00:18:28.743 - Can it wait? - No. 00:18:28.776 --> 00:18:30.654 I'm in Texas. I'm on my way back from a funeral. 00:18:30.678 --> 00:18:32.312 Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. 00:18:32.346 --> 00:18:35.115 It's okay. It's not someone I was close to. 00:18:35.717 --> 00:18:37.719 But you flew to Texas for it? 00:18:37.752 --> 00:18:39.353 Uh, yes. 00:18:39.386 --> 00:18:41.689 Uh, it was a girl I hooked up with a few times. 00:18:41.723 --> 00:18:43.390 You flew to Texas 00:18:43.423 --> 00:18:45.727 to attend the funeral of a random hookup? 00:18:45.760 --> 00:18:48.630 Her family thought that we were more serious than I did. 00:18:48.663 --> 00:18:49.797 Do you know what? 00:18:49.831 --> 00:18:51.498 This is a story. 00:18:51.532 --> 00:18:53.467 - Yeah? - Yeah. 00:18:53.501 --> 00:18:54.301 It's you. 00:18:54.334 --> 00:18:56.336 The-the... Your whole way of life. 00:18:56.370 --> 00:18:58.372 It's dating, it's hookup culture. 00:18:58.405 --> 00:19:00.742 How it enables disconnectedness. 00:19:00.775 --> 00:19:02.644 - The selfishness. - No. 00:19:02.677 --> 00:19:03.911 - The emptiness. - No. 00:19:03.945 --> 00:19:04.912 - The hollowness. - That's not what I meant. 00:19:04.946 --> 00:19:06.279 The lack of self-awareness. 00:19:06.313 --> 00:19:07.491 Okay, that's not what I'm pitching. 00:19:07.515 --> 00:19:08.726 It's really how sad your life is. 00:19:08.750 --> 00:19:09.960 Okay, now you're fucking with me. 00:19:09.984 --> 00:19:12.920 Listen, I'm in West Texas 00:19:12.954 --> 00:19:14.565 where this family just lost their daughter 00:19:14.589 --> 00:19:15.690 to an opioid overdose. 00:19:15.723 --> 00:19:17.525 That is sad but common. 00:19:17.558 --> 00:19:21.261 Except, her brother won't accept it's an overdose. 00:19:21.294 --> 00:19:22.530 He says it was a murder. 00:19:22.563 --> 00:19:23.865 Based on what? 00:19:23.898 --> 00:19:25.566 Nothing. 00:19:25.600 --> 00:19:26.934 And that's the story. 00:19:26.968 --> 00:19:29.302 This is an existential crime story. 00:19:29.336 --> 00:19:32.339 This is In Cold Blood, but there are no killers. 00:19:32.372 --> 00:19:34.341 This is about a new American reality 00:19:34.374 --> 00:19:35.810 that people can't accept. 00:19:35.843 --> 00:19:38.680 So instead, they invent these myths and conspiracies 00:19:38.713 --> 00:19:42.684 so they can cast themselves as heroes because... 00:19:42.717 --> 00:19:44.952 the truth is too hard to accept. 00:19:44.986 --> 00:19:48.956 The death of Abilene is about the death of American identity 00:19:48.990 --> 00:19:50.534 and the need to find someone to blame for it. 00:19:50.558 --> 00:19:54.461 This isn't just a story about vengeance. 00:19:54.494 --> 00:19:57.330 It's a story about the need for vengeance. 00:19:57.364 --> 00:20:01.602 The meaning of vengeance. 00:20:05.272 --> 00:20:06.808 Dead white girl? 00:20:06.841 --> 00:20:08.710 Holy grail of podcasts. 00:20:08.743 --> 00:20:12.479 Eloise, I wish my recorder were already on. 00:20:12.513 --> 00:20:13.957 He's saying such crazy things already. 00:20:13.981 --> 00:20:16.249 Her brother? 00:20:17.417 --> 00:20:19.486 He is such a character. 00:20:19.520 --> 00:20:21.421 And you can get close to the family? 00:20:21.455 --> 00:20:23.490 Can I get close to the family? 00:20:23.524 --> 00:20:25.727 They think I was her boyfriend. 00:20:25.760 --> 00:20:28.428 I mean... 00:20:29.429 --> 00:20:31.666 I went to her funeral, for God's sake. 00:20:31.699 --> 00:20:32.900 That's good. 00:20:32.934 --> 00:20:34.836 I mean, it's fucked up, but... 00:20:34.869 --> 00:20:36.571 but it's good for this. 00:20:36.604 --> 00:20:38.506 So? 00:20:40.373 --> 00:20:41.709 Okay, let's give it a shot. 00:20:42.643 --> 00:20:44.645 Oh! 00:20:44.679 --> 00:20:45.989 Okay, talk to me. Give me everything. 00:20:46.013 --> 00:20:47.447 Stay with the family, 00:20:47.481 --> 00:20:49.550 get as close as possible, record everything. 00:20:49.584 --> 00:20:51.327 'Cause you never know what will be important. 00:20:51.351 --> 00:20:53.487 I'll be your editor, so I'll pull selects 00:20:53.521 --> 00:20:54.822 - and see what's there. - Okay. 00:20:54.856 --> 00:20:56.691 I'll have Tracy overnight you the equipment, 00:20:56.724 --> 00:20:58.893 but just use your phone in the meantime 00:20:58.926 --> 00:21:00.995 and get the story, stay safe. 00:21:01.028 --> 00:21:02.429 You got it. 00:21:02.462 --> 00:21:04.297 - Not in that order. - In that order. 00:21:13.508 --> 00:21:18.378 The dust in West Texas settles like rain on a lake. 00:21:18.411 --> 00:21:21.716 I'm under a West Texas sky, bright blue Texan sky, 00:21:21.749 --> 00:21:26.053 where I've just learned about the death of Abilene Shaw. 00:21:26.087 --> 00:21:28.689 My... 00:21:28.723 --> 00:21:30.758 A person... 00:21:31.893 --> 00:21:33.861 who lived here. 00:21:42.103 --> 00:21:44.605 Hell yeah, brother. 00:21:44.639 --> 00:21:46.941 All right. 00:21:46.974 --> 00:21:49.409 I'm gonna stay with you guys for a couple of weeks. 00:21:49.442 --> 00:21:50.978 I'm gonna record everything 00:21:51.012 --> 00:21:52.547 that you think happened to Abilene. 00:21:52.580 --> 00:21:54.582 - Okay? - Hell yes. Then we kill him. 00:21:54.615 --> 00:21:55.550 No. 00:21:55.583 --> 00:21:58.451 I'm gonna put it on a podcast... 00:21:59.386 --> 00:22:04.959 and it will be on podcast platforms. 00:22:04.992 --> 00:22:06.894 That's fucking brilliant. 00:22:06.928 --> 00:22:08.996 - Yeah. - You're fucking smart. 00:22:09.030 --> 00:22:10.463 All right. 00:22:10.497 --> 00:22:11.899 Once people on Reddit find out... 00:22:13.400 --> 00:22:14.802 they'll kill him for us. 00:22:23.878 --> 00:22:26.346 All right. 00:22:38.458 --> 00:22:39.594 Hey, Mama. 00:22:39.627 --> 00:22:41.494 Guess who came back after all. 00:22:42.163 --> 00:22:43.531 Ben. 00:22:43.564 --> 00:22:45.099 - Hi. - Oh, my God. You came back. 00:22:45.132 --> 00:22:46.934 Ah... Oh. Thank you. 00:22:46.968 --> 00:22:49.937 Um, I hope I'm not imposing. 00:22:49.971 --> 00:22:51.438 Please. 00:22:51.471 --> 00:22:52.850 We have this empty seat at the table. 00:22:52.874 --> 00:22:55.676 We can use all the distraction we can get. 00:22:56.510 --> 00:22:58.145 Can I get you anything? 00:22:58.179 --> 00:22:59.647 Um... 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:02.415 Uh, just, uh, what's the Wi-Fi situation? 00:23:02.449 --> 00:23:03.894 Oh, it's a little temperamental... it'll kick in. 00:23:03.918 --> 00:23:06.120 Did you have a chance to meet everybody before? 00:23:06.153 --> 00:23:07.487 Uh, no. 00:23:07.521 --> 00:23:08.789 I would love to. 00:23:08.823 --> 00:23:10.591 -Uh, this is Abilene's sister, Paris. -Hi. 00:23:10.625 --> 00:23:12.760 - She's 24, fixin' to be 25. - Yep. 00:23:12.793 --> 00:23:14.494 She's gonna be a famous filmmaker. 00:23:14.528 --> 00:23:16.831 It is a pleasure to meet you, Paris. 00:23:16.864 --> 00:23:18.799 Pleasure. I've heard so much about you. 00:23:18.833 --> 00:23:21.434 I've-I've heard... Yeah. 00:23:21.468 --> 00:23:22.637 And this is Kansas City. 00:23:22.670 --> 00:23:24.572 She's 17, fixin' to be 18. 00:23:24.605 --> 00:23:26.774 And she's gonna be a famous... 00:23:26.807 --> 00:23:27.975 Just famous. 00:23:28.009 --> 00:23:29.476 KC, I told you. 00:23:29.510 --> 00:23:31.478 Those are not our values. 00:23:31.512 --> 00:23:34.115 You have to be a famous something. 00:23:34.148 --> 00:23:36.984 A famous... 00:23:37.018 --> 00:23:38.619 celebrity. 00:23:39.954 --> 00:23:41.164 These are really your daughters? 00:23:41.188 --> 00:23:43.190 I mean, you all could be sisters. 00:23:43.224 --> 00:23:44.659 Oh. You are so sweet. 00:23:44.692 --> 00:23:46.212 You think that I look this fucking old? 00:23:47.228 --> 00:23:49.462 And this is El Stupido. 00:23:49.496 --> 00:23:51.599 - Sorry? - This is El Stupido. 00:23:52.233 --> 00:23:54.068 That's what you call him? 00:23:54.101 --> 00:23:55.236 Oh. It's okay, Ben. 00:23:55.269 --> 00:23:57.004 He don't speak Spanish. 00:23:59.607 --> 00:24:02.810 And, uh, and how old are you? 00:24:02.843 --> 00:24:04.779 Nine. 00:24:04.812 --> 00:24:06.847 Fixin' to be ten? 00:24:11.085 --> 00:24:12.485 Yes, sir. 00:24:12.520 --> 00:24:13.788 Boys, come on. 00:24:13.821 --> 00:24:15.232 - Ben, come take a seat. - Thank you. 00:24:15.256 --> 00:24:16.691 You have a lovely home, by the way. 00:24:16.724 --> 00:24:18.259 - Thank you. - It's really nice. 00:24:18.292 --> 00:24:19.560 - This is Granny Carole. - Yeah. 00:24:19.593 --> 00:24:20.761 Granny for short. 00:24:20.795 --> 00:24:23.164 - Um, nice to meet you, Granny. - Yeah. 00:24:23.197 --> 00:24:25.700 Thank you. Um... 00:24:25.733 --> 00:24:28.202 So, Ben, tell us about yourself. 00:24:28.235 --> 00:24:30.071 Do you come from a close family? 00:24:30.104 --> 00:24:31.973 Yes. Um, we're very close. 00:24:32.006 --> 00:24:35.475 We don't see each other much, but we're very close. 00:24:36.177 --> 00:24:38.179 You from Texas? 00:24:38.212 --> 00:24:40.147 Oh. No, I'm not. 00:24:40.181 --> 00:24:41.248 Oh, I'm sorry. 00:24:41.282 --> 00:24:42.950 That you're not from Texas. 00:24:44.685 --> 00:24:46.663 -Have you been to Texas before, Ben? -Yes, actually. 00:24:46.687 --> 00:24:48.189 I've been to Austin, uh, for South By. 00:24:48.222 --> 00:24:49.790 For what? 00:24:49.824 --> 00:24:51.859 Uh, oh, South by Southwest is an annual festiv... 00:24:51.892 --> 00:24:53.227 No, for what band? 00:24:53.260 --> 00:24:55.062 You don't just go to South By. 00:24:55.096 --> 00:24:57.031 You go see a band, don't you? 00:24:58.032 --> 00:24:59.233 Uh, well, true. 00:24:59.266 --> 00:25:01.135 I was part of a journalism panel 00:25:01.168 --> 00:25:02.703 about the future of new media. 00:25:02.737 --> 00:25:04.271 - Amazing. - That's so cool. 00:25:04.305 --> 00:25:05.906 - Mm. -Thank you. - You're welcome. 00:25:05.940 --> 00:25:07.875 Um, speaking of. 00:25:07.908 --> 00:25:10.277 Would you mind if I recorded this dinner? 00:25:10.311 --> 00:25:11.645 - Oh. - Record us now? 00:25:11.679 --> 00:25:12.279 - Yeah. - Hell yeah. 00:25:12.313 --> 00:25:13.881 Would we mind? 00:25:13.914 --> 00:25:15.192 - I love being recorded. - Great. Fantastic. 00:25:15.216 --> 00:25:16.283 Oh, my God. 00:25:16.317 --> 00:25:17.785 - Hey, smile. Okay? - Great. 00:25:17.818 --> 00:25:19.120 Well, would you want to hear 00:25:19.153 --> 00:25:21.155 the story of Texas? 00:25:21.188 --> 00:25:23.157 - Absolutely. -Huh? - Go, Granny. 00:25:23.190 --> 00:25:24.859 All right. Right here. 00:25:24.892 --> 00:25:26.660 - My goodness. - Mm. Okay. 00:25:27.328 --> 00:25:28.662 1836. 00:25:28.696 --> 00:25:30.097 Texas is part of Mexico, 00:25:30.131 --> 00:25:33.300 made up of settlers and English-speaking white folk. 00:25:33.334 --> 00:25:35.169 And, uh, they didn't like the government. 00:25:35.202 --> 00:25:36.737 What else is new? 00:25:36.771 --> 00:25:38.315 Them Texans wanted to do things their own way. 00:25:38.339 --> 00:25:39.807 What else is new? 00:25:39.840 --> 00:25:43.177 So, you take everybody's two favorite things, 00:25:43.210 --> 00:25:46.147 government and Mexicans. 00:25:46.180 --> 00:25:48.049 And guess what happens. 00:25:48.082 --> 00:25:49.316 - Huh? - Go on. 00:25:49.350 --> 00:25:50.627 - Guess. - You should... In your words. 00:25:50.651 --> 00:25:51.786 All right. All right. 00:25:51.819 --> 00:25:54.188 Well, Generalissimo Santa Anna 00:25:54.221 --> 00:25:57.291 brung up 7,000 Mexican soldiers 00:25:57.324 --> 00:26:00.361 to fight against 186 Texan rebels 00:26:00.394 --> 00:26:02.930 at a place called the Alamo. 00:26:02.963 --> 00:26:04.765 And the Texans won. 00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:06.667 That's very inspiring. 00:26:06.700 --> 00:26:08.135 Say what? 00:26:09.837 --> 00:26:11.972 The Texans didn't win, Ben. 00:26:12.006 --> 00:26:13.641 Mm. 00:26:13.674 --> 00:26:16.177 They teach math where you from? 00:26:16.210 --> 00:26:19.346 186.7,000. 00:26:19.380 --> 00:26:21.215 Um... 00:26:21.248 --> 00:26:23.684 7,000 is more, Ben. 00:26:23.717 --> 00:26:26.555 It was a massacre. 00:26:27.221 --> 00:26:29.623 It was unspeakable cruelty. 00:26:29.657 --> 00:26:31.125 Unspeakable cruelty. 00:26:31.158 --> 00:26:34.295 I'm sorry. I had no idea you didn't win the Alamo. 00:26:34.328 --> 00:26:36.697 Um... 00:26:36.730 --> 00:26:38.833 I feel like you guys talk about it a lot. 00:26:38.866 --> 00:26:41.268 Who's "Equinox Girl Cute"? 00:26:41.302 --> 00:26:42.970 Um, a friend. 00:26:43.003 --> 00:26:45.106 Who's "Paris Review Party Asian"? 00:26:45.139 --> 00:26:46.941 - Excuse me. Um... - Very good reading. 00:26:46.974 --> 00:26:49.376 Let me, uh... The Wi-Fi must have just kicked on. 00:26:49.410 --> 00:26:51.011 Who's "Natalie Bumble"? 00:26:51.045 --> 00:26:53.380 - Um, let-let me just... - Who's "Katie Raya"? 00:26:53.414 --> 00:26:54.748 - Let me put that on... - Raya? 00:26:54.782 --> 00:26:56.217 Let me put that on airplane mode. 00:26:56.250 --> 00:26:57.985 I thought Raya was supposed to be exclusive. 00:26:58.018 --> 00:26:59.920 So what do you think of this place, Ben? 00:26:59.954 --> 00:27:01.922 I love it. 00:27:01.956 --> 00:27:03.891 - Are you joking? - Are you serious? You love it? 00:27:03.924 --> 00:27:05.259 You're from New York City. 00:27:05.292 --> 00:27:06.827 -Literally nothing happens here. -Yeah. 00:27:06.861 --> 00:27:11.132 Well, um... I mean, it is a little... 00:27:11.165 --> 00:27:13.400 - Hmm? - You know. 00:27:13.434 --> 00:27:14.969 -Bleak. -Come on, that's not fair. 00:27:15.002 --> 00:27:16.746 - We just got a Target. - Excuse me? How dare you? 00:27:16.770 --> 00:27:18.772 Do you know how fucking good our football team is? 00:27:18.806 --> 00:27:20.817 -This is our town. -Okay, look, I don't know where to... 00:27:20.841 --> 00:27:22.176 where to land here. Um... 00:27:22.209 --> 00:27:24.145 Ben, there's probably something you should know 00:27:24.178 --> 00:27:25.746 - about this place. - Yeah. 00:27:25.779 --> 00:27:29.750 This is the most, uh, wretched, 00:27:29.783 --> 00:27:32.453 godforsaken stretch of land on the face of the earth. 00:27:32.486 --> 00:27:34.088 And I'd never leave. 00:27:34.121 --> 00:27:36.090 You know what I mean? 00:27:36.123 --> 00:27:38.726 Yeah. That's how I feel about Twitter. 00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:40.261 - Mm. - See, Ben's a journalist. 00:27:40.294 --> 00:27:42.062 One of the finest there is. 00:27:42.096 --> 00:27:43.764 He writes for the New York Magazine. 00:27:43.797 --> 00:27:45.032 New Yorker. Yep. 00:27:45.065 --> 00:27:46.800 And he's gonna help us find out 00:27:46.834 --> 00:27:49.770 what really happened to Abilene. 00:27:49.803 --> 00:27:51.939 I was saying we go out and settle with a .45, 00:27:51.972 --> 00:27:56.110 but Ben gives a whole new perspective to the situation. 00:27:56.143 --> 00:27:59.947 Ty, you can't solve something like this with a .45. 00:27:59.980 --> 00:28:02.116 It's not as simple as one person. 00:28:02.149 --> 00:28:04.318 It's a whole system, son. 00:28:04.351 --> 00:28:06.187 Tell us what you mean, Granny. 00:28:06.220 --> 00:28:08.088 It's the breakdown of society, is what it is. 00:28:08.122 --> 00:28:09.790 It's the breakdown of the school system, 00:28:09.823 --> 00:28:11.025 - the government. - Mm. 00:28:11.058 --> 00:28:13.928 It's the pharmaceutical companies. 00:28:13.961 --> 00:28:16.797 It's the breakdown of the family 00:28:16.830 --> 00:28:19.233 and tradition. 00:28:20.267 --> 00:28:22.937 Oh, there's a whole lot of people responsible 00:28:22.970 --> 00:28:25.339 - for what happened to Abilene. - That's true. 00:28:25.372 --> 00:28:26.508 - Yes, ma'am. - Amen. 00:28:26.541 --> 00:28:28.042 I think that's very wise. 00:28:28.075 --> 00:28:29.977 You're gonna need a 12-gauge, couple of ARs. 00:28:30.010 --> 00:28:31.412 - No. -Yep. - A Wesson automatic. 00:28:31.445 --> 00:28:32.889 - No, no, no. - And a sidearm for safety. 00:28:32.913 --> 00:28:34.481 - Yep. Exactly. - We're not doing that. 00:28:34.516 --> 00:28:36.917 Oh, we're not? Yeah. 00:28:38.085 --> 00:28:41.121 I didn't think you had the balls. 00:28:41.989 --> 00:28:44.725 Are you gonna help us, Ben? 00:28:46.427 --> 00:28:48.862 You know, um... 00:28:50.798 --> 00:28:54.802 There's some things I'm good at. 00:28:54.835 --> 00:28:57.104 I'm good at asking the right questions. 00:28:57.137 --> 00:28:59.240 I'm good at getting people to talk. 00:28:59.273 --> 00:29:02.876 And I'm especially good at drawing thematic connections 00:29:02.910 --> 00:29:04.445 between seemingly disparate elements 00:29:04.478 --> 00:29:06.347 and using that to illustrate 00:29:06.380 --> 00:29:08.916 a larger point or theory. 00:29:08.949 --> 00:29:13.187 So, whoever or whatever 00:29:13.220 --> 00:29:16.924 is responsible for what happened to Abilene, 00:29:16.957 --> 00:29:20.828 I will find this person 00:29:20.861 --> 00:29:24.898 or this generalized societal force, 00:29:24.932 --> 00:29:28.235 and I will define it. 00:29:29.236 --> 00:29:31.138 I'll define it. 00:29:34.174 --> 00:29:36.043 Bless your heart. 00:29:42.116 --> 00:29:45.185 I guess we have a guest room now. 00:29:47.988 --> 00:29:49.256 Ty. 00:29:50.457 --> 00:29:51.992 Well, rest up good. 00:29:52.026 --> 00:29:54.161 We'll meet in the morning and start to solve this. 00:29:54.194 --> 00:29:55.329 Yeah. 00:29:55.362 --> 00:29:56.964 See you in the morning. 00:29:56.997 --> 00:29:58.932 - Good night, Ty. - Good night. 00:32:08.563 --> 00:32:10.330 Good morning. 00:32:11.131 --> 00:32:12.567 Yeah, that's it. What else...? 00:32:12.600 --> 00:32:14.168 - Can I say it proves a lot? - Yeah. 00:32:14.201 --> 00:32:15.737 I'm gonna take a short break here, 00:32:15.770 --> 00:32:17.438 and during this break, I hope you'll call 00:32:17.471 --> 00:32:20.742 and support this station during this long, important 00:32:20.775 --> 00:32:22.376 - membership drive. - Thanks. 00:32:22.409 --> 00:32:24.053 We have some great free gifts to offer you, 00:32:24.077 --> 00:32:25.713 and I'm not just talking coffee mugs. 00:32:31.653 --> 00:32:34.354 Well, Ben, there's really two versions of life out here. 00:32:34.388 --> 00:32:37.157 Boom times, everybody's rich and busy. 00:32:37.191 --> 00:32:39.493 It's like one big party out here. 00:32:39.527 --> 00:32:41.328 And then the bust comes. 00:32:41.361 --> 00:32:43.039 It's really like two different places out here. 00:32:43.063 --> 00:32:45.098 It's always boom or bust. 00:32:45.132 --> 00:32:46.668 Which is it right now? 00:32:48.068 --> 00:32:49.403 Kinda in between. 00:32:49.436 --> 00:32:50.304 Yeah. 00:32:50.337 --> 00:32:52.206 Kinda in between, to tell you the truth. 00:32:52.239 --> 00:32:53.239 Okay. 00:32:55.108 --> 00:32:57.044 You son of a... 00:32:57.077 --> 00:32:58.613 - Get off. - Crawl. There's our worm. 00:32:58.646 --> 00:33:00.481 Oh, you like being on top. 00:33:00.515 --> 00:33:03.551 - Get off. Yeah. - Whoo! 00:33:03.585 --> 00:33:04.686 This the guy? 00:33:04.719 --> 00:33:06.086 Yep. 00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:07.354 Hmm. 00:33:07.387 --> 00:33:09.423 Let me save you some time: Sancholo. 00:33:09.456 --> 00:33:10.758 Sancholo. Sancholo. 00:33:10.792 --> 00:33:12.159 What's Sancholo? 00:33:12.192 --> 00:33:14.428 The guy who killed Abilene. 00:33:14.461 --> 00:33:15.763 A Mexican drug dealer. 00:33:15.797 --> 00:33:17.732 Evil motherfucker. 00:33:17.765 --> 00:33:19.366 You name it, he's got it. 00:33:19.399 --> 00:33:20.735 Not crazy about his prices though. 00:33:20.768 --> 00:33:23.237 So, you know who killed Abilene? 00:33:23.270 --> 00:33:24.037 Yes, sir. 00:33:24.071 --> 00:33:26.574 Did you call the police about it? 00:33:26.608 --> 00:33:28.141 Mike and Dan? 00:33:28.175 --> 00:33:29.777 Those lazy fucktards. 00:33:29.811 --> 00:33:31.111 Everything's an accident. 00:33:31.144 --> 00:33:32.112 Gun accident. 00:33:32.145 --> 00:33:33.180 Uh, driving accident. 00:33:33.213 --> 00:33:35.215 I've known Abilene 00:33:35.249 --> 00:33:37.184 since we were knee-high to a grasshopper. 00:33:37.217 --> 00:33:39.186 She never touched so much as an Advil, 00:33:39.219 --> 00:33:41.255 and-and then, out of the blue, 00:33:41.288 --> 00:33:44.458 they find this angel, this angel, 00:33:44.491 --> 00:33:47.662 dead of an oxy OD at a party he threw! 00:33:47.695 --> 00:33:49.296 Ooh, you're getting me warmed up. 00:33:49.329 --> 00:33:51.331 He's been obsessed with her since middle school. 00:33:51.365 --> 00:33:53.333 Yep. He'd call the house every night. 00:33:53.367 --> 00:33:55.335 They used to be on the phone for hours. 00:33:55.369 --> 00:33:57.070 He's just a piece of it anyway. 00:33:57.104 --> 00:33:58.806 It's too big to understand. 00:33:58.840 --> 00:34:01.576 You got deep state in bed with pill pushers, 00:34:01.609 --> 00:34:03.645 - cartels, pedos. - Uh-huh. 00:34:03.678 --> 00:34:05.145 - The law. - How, wha... 00:34:05.178 --> 00:34:06.179 Hey, shh. Hey. 00:34:06.213 --> 00:34:08.415 And you're a piece of it, too. 00:34:09.216 --> 00:34:11.118 So, um, I'd love to talk 00:34:11.151 --> 00:34:12.563 to some of the characters you mentioned. 00:34:12.587 --> 00:34:14.421 Mike and Dan? Sancholo? 00:34:14.454 --> 00:34:15.866 Oh, he's gotta be at the rodeo in Holliston. 00:34:15.890 --> 00:34:17.291 No doubt. 00:34:17.324 --> 00:34:18.836 There and the honky-tonk, too, afterwards. 00:34:18.860 --> 00:34:21.428 -That's where a drug dealer can do their best business. -Mm. 00:34:21.461 --> 00:34:23.565 'Cause everybody goes to the rodeo. 00:34:23.598 --> 00:34:25.867 White, Mexicans. 00:34:25.900 --> 00:34:29.169 You really want to avenge her with him? 00:34:29.202 --> 00:34:30.805 I'm like a brother to you. 00:34:30.838 --> 00:34:33.307 Well, he's like a brother-in-law. 00:34:33.340 --> 00:34:35.208 Oh, come on. 00:34:35.242 --> 00:34:37.612 Ben, you ever been in a fight? 00:34:37.645 --> 00:34:39.146 You mean like a physical fight 00:34:39.179 --> 00:34:40.582 or like an online skirmish? 00:34:42.884 --> 00:34:44.484 I got him. 00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:47.387 Crawl wouldn't hurt a fly, would you, Crawl? 00:34:47.421 --> 00:34:50.490 I never understood that expression about flies. 00:34:50.525 --> 00:34:52.594 Yeah, I'd kill a fly, 00:34:52.627 --> 00:34:56.263 but what kind of sick fuck would hurt a fly? 00:34:56.296 --> 00:34:59.099 Make it feel pain? Hmm? 00:35:01.234 --> 00:35:06.340 You don't have any idea where you are, do you? 00:35:06.373 --> 00:35:07.341 Hmm? 00:35:07.374 --> 00:35:10.110 Want me to show you a map? 00:35:10.878 --> 00:35:13.514 Welcome to Texas. 00:35:13.548 --> 00:35:15.917 You are here. 00:35:31.966 --> 00:35:33.635 Morning, KC. 00:35:33.668 --> 00:35:34.769 Hey. 00:35:34.802 --> 00:35:36.771 Uh, would you like some coffee? 00:35:36.804 --> 00:35:39.206 - Sure. - How do you take it? 00:35:40.775 --> 00:35:42.409 In the mouth? 00:35:46.547 --> 00:35:47.915 All right, tell me something 00:35:47.949 --> 00:35:49.651 that you love about where you live. 00:35:49.684 --> 00:35:51.786 - Whataburger! - Whoo. 00:35:51.819 --> 00:35:53.186 - Oh. -Yeah. - Okay, great. 00:35:53.220 --> 00:35:54.454 Um, tell me about it. 00:35:54.488 --> 00:35:55.899 - You want to go right now? - Yeah, let's go. 00:35:55.923 --> 00:35:57.525 - Uh... Uh... - I'm ready. 00:35:57.558 --> 00:35:59.402 -You want... -Just, no, just, uh, tell me about it. 00:35:59.426 --> 00:36:01.529 You're gonna love Whataburger, Ben. 00:36:01.562 --> 00:36:04.264 - Oh, it's the best. - What makes it the best? 00:36:04.297 --> 00:36:06.934 Wherever you are, there's a Whataburger. 00:36:06.968 --> 00:36:09.336 Yeah. It's always right there. 00:36:10.004 --> 00:36:12.272 Okay. And then when you get there, 00:36:12.305 --> 00:36:13.951 what do you like about it? What do you get? 00:36:13.975 --> 00:36:15.486 - Whatever you want. - It's always right there. 00:36:15.510 --> 00:36:17.310 You could order whatever you want, Ben. 00:36:17.344 --> 00:36:20.280 Right, but there are a lot of places like that. 00:36:20.313 --> 00:36:22.550 So, let's say there is a McDonald's, 00:36:22.583 --> 00:36:25.485 a Burger King, a Sonic and a Whataburger 00:36:25.520 --> 00:36:26.721 all lined up. 00:36:26.754 --> 00:36:27.889 Which one do you go to? 00:36:27.922 --> 00:36:28.890 Whataburger! 00:36:28.923 --> 00:36:30.457 Right, right. Why? 00:36:30.490 --> 00:36:32.560 Because it's right there! 00:36:32.593 --> 00:36:34.595 Yes, but they're all right there. 00:36:35.563 --> 00:36:39.499 In this scenario, they're all right there. 00:36:39.534 --> 00:36:43.437 So, what do you get out of Whataburger? 00:36:43.470 --> 00:36:45.405 What makes it better to you? 00:36:45.439 --> 00:36:47.542 - What are you getting... - Ben. 00:36:48.408 --> 00:36:49.844 Asking why you love Whataburger 00:36:49.877 --> 00:36:51.579 is like asking why you love Christmas 00:36:51.612 --> 00:36:54.982 or a summer night or why you love your dog. 00:36:55.016 --> 00:36:57.284 I mean, you could point to the reasons, 00:36:57.317 --> 00:36:59.587 but the reasons aren't really the point. 00:36:59.620 --> 00:37:04.224 You just love it, and that's how love works. 00:37:16.771 --> 00:37:18.039 I'm on my way to get 00:37:18.072 --> 00:37:20.742 what could be some good local color. 00:37:20.775 --> 00:37:23.343 It's the place Abilene recorded some demos. 00:37:23.376 --> 00:37:26.514 I'm heading towards the Quentin Sellers Music Factory. 00:37:26.547 --> 00:37:30.551 A place in Marfa, the arts town, where... 00:37:30.585 --> 00:37:32.820 people pursue their dreams of musical stardom. 00:37:32.854 --> 00:37:37.658 His motto is "making dreams come true since 2018." 00:37:38.726 --> 00:37:41.428 Eloise, if you have, um... if you can play a clip of that, 00:37:41.461 --> 00:37:44.397 um, Rebecca Black song, "Friday," 00:37:44.431 --> 00:37:46.067 that would be really funny here. 00:37:46.100 --> 00:37:48.268 I bet it's cheap to play. 00:38:02.016 --> 00:38:04.786 ♪ Yeah, yeah ♪ 00:38:05.953 --> 00:38:07.789 ♪ Yeah ♪ 00:38:18.833 --> 00:38:20.101 ♪ Yeah ♪ 00:38:31.646 --> 00:38:33.815 Okay. 00:38:35.448 --> 00:38:38.586 - Hi. - Hi. 00:38:39.452 --> 00:38:41.354 What is music? 00:38:41.388 --> 00:38:42.924 Like, singing and stuff. 00:38:42.957 --> 00:38:45.593 Yeah, that's right. 00:38:47.394 --> 00:38:50.363 Let's take a step back. 00:38:50.397 --> 00:38:52.533 I want to share an idea with you. 00:38:53.433 --> 00:38:57.104 There's no argument more profound 00:38:57.138 --> 00:39:00.440 than how the universe came into existence. 00:39:00.473 --> 00:39:02.143 - Oh, God. - Are we here because of God 00:39:02.176 --> 00:39:03.544 or science? 00:39:03.578 --> 00:39:06.848 I mean, it is, by its very nature, 00:39:06.881 --> 00:39:09.482 the most fundamental question. 00:39:10.417 --> 00:39:14.822 But there's one thing that everyone agrees on. 00:39:16.123 --> 00:39:19.760 And that is whether it was God declaring, 00:39:19.794 --> 00:39:22.597 "Let there be light," 00:39:22.630 --> 00:39:25.633 or an infinite particle of energy 00:39:25.666 --> 00:39:29.604 bursting forth in the big bang. 00:39:29.637 --> 00:39:31.873 Everyone, 00:39:31.906 --> 00:39:34.542 and I mean everyone, 00:39:34.575 --> 00:39:38.913 agrees that the universe 00:39:38.946 --> 00:39:41.649 started with a sound. 00:39:44.785 --> 00:39:47.088 Why do I call myself a record producer? 00:39:47.121 --> 00:39:49.590 I don't know. 00:39:49.624 --> 00:39:51.859 Yeah, I mean, we don't even make records anymore. 00:39:53.527 --> 00:39:57.064 What we're recording here isn't your record. 00:39:57.098 --> 00:39:59.499 It's your sound... 00:39:59.533 --> 00:40:03.537 on the record that started 00:40:03.571 --> 00:40:06.841 with the very first moment in time. 00:40:07.675 --> 00:40:10.578 So when you sing this song... 00:40:12.647 --> 00:40:17.518 I want you to think about how what you're making 00:40:17.551 --> 00:40:23.490 is the record of your time here on this earth. 00:40:24.592 --> 00:40:29.163 It's the sound that you scratch 00:40:29.196 --> 00:40:32.533 with your life... 00:40:33.200 --> 00:40:35.870 on the record of the universe. 00:40:39.040 --> 00:40:41.008 - Okay? - Okay. 00:40:45.579 --> 00:40:51.719 ♪ I finished my shift at Claire's ♪ 00:40:51.752 --> 00:40:57.825 ♪ Climbed up those steep mall stairs ♪ 00:40:57.858 --> 00:41:03.764 ♪ And the pain of having nowhere to go ♪ 00:41:03.798 --> 00:41:07.001 ♪ Pierced the skin of my soul ♪ 00:41:07.034 --> 00:41:10.972 ♪ As I sat on the steps ♪ 00:41:11.005 --> 00:41:13.207 ♪ And waited and waited ♪ 00:41:13.240 --> 00:41:18.813 ♪ For no one to take me home. ♪ 00:41:18.846 --> 00:41:21.082 Yeah. 00:41:22.750 --> 00:41:23.985 Thank you. 00:41:24.018 --> 00:41:25.987 I call this place the Factory. 00:41:26.020 --> 00:41:28.689 -You know, after Andy Warhol's Factory. -Hmm. 00:41:29.690 --> 00:41:31.301 Most people around here think it's a reference 00:41:31.325 --> 00:41:33.094 to C+C Music Factory. 00:41:33.127 --> 00:41:37.298 Which, honestly, I-I think Warhol would've loved, but... 00:41:37.331 --> 00:41:39.600 Yeah, actually. Yeah. 00:41:39.633 --> 00:41:40.768 I'm from out here. 00:41:40.801 --> 00:41:42.203 I went to college in New Haven. 00:41:42.236 --> 00:41:43.871 Oh, I went to school in Boston. 00:41:43.904 --> 00:41:45.706 Yeah, I thought about staying there, 00:41:45.740 --> 00:41:47.842 but this is the place that needs something like this. 00:41:47.875 --> 00:41:50.144 The problem isn't that people aren't smart. 00:41:50.177 --> 00:41:52.246 The problem is that they are. 00:41:52.279 --> 00:41:54.048 If the landscape is like this, 00:41:54.081 --> 00:41:57.151 a-and people were just boring, you wouldn't have this problem. 00:41:57.184 --> 00:42:00.287 The problem is, you get all these bright, creative lights 00:42:00.321 --> 00:42:03.024 and nowhere to plug in their energy. 00:42:03.057 --> 00:42:05.226 And so it gets channeled into conspiracy theories 00:42:05.259 --> 00:42:07.061 and drugs and violence. 00:42:07.094 --> 00:42:09.630 Who are your favorite music artists right now? 00:42:09.663 --> 00:42:10.931 Um... 00:42:10.965 --> 00:42:12.299 - Can I take a guess? - Yeah. 00:42:12.333 --> 00:42:13.701 You're a playlist guy. 00:42:13.734 --> 00:42:15.302 What does that mean? 00:42:15.336 --> 00:42:16.913 When some computer recommends you a bunch of songs 00:42:16.937 --> 00:42:19.206 based on your favorites, and a bunch more 00:42:19.240 --> 00:42:20.751 -based on your favorites of those. -Right. 00:42:20.775 --> 00:42:22.352 So you're listening to a bunch of music that, 00:42:22.376 --> 00:42:24.645 - I mean, you genuinely like... - Yeah. 00:42:24.678 --> 00:42:26.147 But you have no idea who sings it. 00:42:26.180 --> 00:42:28.783 Now, these playlists, it's like the dating app for music. 00:42:28.816 --> 00:42:30.785 You're not hearing other people's voices. 00:42:30.818 --> 00:42:33.287 You're just hearing your voice get played back at you. 00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:35.823 How are you supposed to fall in love? 00:42:36.891 --> 00:42:39.794 Art used to be in charge of us. 00:42:39.827 --> 00:42:41.062 You used to buy a whole album 00:42:41.095 --> 00:42:43.831 not even knowing what songs would be on it. 00:42:44.765 --> 00:42:47.168 Now we have everything on demand. 00:42:48.202 --> 00:42:50.805 At your fingertips. 00:42:50.838 --> 00:42:52.907 In pieces. 00:42:53.841 --> 00:42:55.810 You think half the people that are posting quotes 00:42:55.843 --> 00:42:58.345 from Oscar Wilde have ever actually read one of his plays? 00:42:58.379 --> 00:42:59.680 No. 00:42:59.713 --> 00:43:01.082 Or posting photos of Audrey Hepburn 00:43:01.115 --> 00:43:03.784 have actually seen the film that it's from? 00:43:03.818 --> 00:43:05.619 - No. - Not a chance, right? 00:43:05.653 --> 00:43:06.954 What is that about, huh? 00:43:06.987 --> 00:43:09.824 It's the same in culture as it is in archaeology. 00:43:09.857 --> 00:43:11.959 When a civilization collapses, 00:43:11.992 --> 00:43:14.361 only the tiniest fragments remain. 00:43:14.395 --> 00:43:16.297 But we can build it back again. 00:43:16.330 --> 00:43:18.365 How? 00:43:18.399 --> 00:43:20.301 Make recordings. 00:43:20.334 --> 00:43:22.837 Real people. 00:43:22.870 --> 00:43:25.039 Not what people think that they already know 00:43:25.072 --> 00:43:26.407 and want to hear. 00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:28.109 Real people. 00:43:28.142 --> 00:43:33.013 Not some generic stereotype or generic song. 00:43:34.014 --> 00:43:36.817 Real people. 00:43:38.419 --> 00:43:40.254 What's this podcast about anyway? 00:43:40.287 --> 00:43:42.022 Well, um, it's about America. 00:43:42.056 --> 00:43:43.057 Okay. 00:43:43.090 --> 00:43:47.128 It's about the myths that we tell ourselves. 00:43:47.161 --> 00:43:48.195 Who is it about? 00:43:49.697 --> 00:43:51.098 All of us. 00:43:51.132 --> 00:43:54.735 Every story we tell is ultimately about a person. 00:43:56.036 --> 00:43:57.371 Abilene Shaw. 00:43:57.404 --> 00:43:59.340 Abilene. 00:43:59.373 --> 00:44:01.142 Yeah. 00:44:01.175 --> 00:44:04.011 You're making a podcast about Abilene. 00:44:04.044 --> 00:44:05.713 Well, it's a little about Abilene. 00:44:05.746 --> 00:44:07.414 -I'm trying to make it more about... -No. 00:44:07.448 --> 00:44:09.283 It's about Abilene. 00:44:09.316 --> 00:44:10.284 The person. 00:44:10.317 --> 00:44:11.719 That's all you need. 00:44:11.752 --> 00:44:13.154 What did you think about her music? 00:44:13.187 --> 00:44:14.355 I haven't really heard it. 00:44:14.388 --> 00:44:15.890 Shut the front door. 00:44:15.923 --> 00:44:18.792 - I mean, I have... - Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. 00:44:21.061 --> 00:44:23.664 Come with me. 00:44:24.298 --> 00:44:25.799 Here it is. 00:44:25.833 --> 00:44:27.168 Everything we ever recorded. 00:44:27.201 --> 00:44:29.069 - Thank you so much. - You're in for a treat. 00:44:30.104 --> 00:44:32.773 Doesn't she have a sister who wants to be a singer? 00:44:32.806 --> 00:44:34.341 Wants to be famous. 00:44:34.375 --> 00:44:36.343 Means she knows she's somebody. 00:44:36.377 --> 00:44:38.379 Just doesn't know who yet. 00:44:38.412 --> 00:44:40.814 She needs to find her voice. 00:44:41.482 --> 00:44:42.917 What about my voice? 00:44:42.950 --> 00:44:44.785 I'll put you in the studio. 00:44:44.818 --> 00:44:46.287 What do you want to do? 00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:49.089 I-I, you know... 00:44:49.123 --> 00:44:53.427 If I came here for advice about my voice, my... 00:44:53.460 --> 00:44:56.397 you know, my writing, my podcast, 00:44:56.430 --> 00:44:58.699 what would you tell me? 00:45:00.267 --> 00:45:04.972 I'd probably say that nobody writes anything. 00:45:06.240 --> 00:45:08.342 All we do is translate. 00:45:08.375 --> 00:45:11.845 So if you ever get stuck and you don't know what to say... 00:45:12.547 --> 00:45:14.715 just listen. 00:45:15.282 --> 00:45:17.885 Even to the silences. 00:45:19.053 --> 00:45:23.924 Listen as hard as you can to the world around you and... 00:45:23.958 --> 00:45:27.194 repeat back what you hear. 00:45:28.195 --> 00:45:30.397 That translation, 00:45:30.431 --> 00:45:32.800 that's your voice. 00:45:40.140 --> 00:45:42.243 I gotta say, this is not anything 00:45:42.276 --> 00:45:44.111 like what I expected to find. 00:45:44.144 --> 00:45:46.347 You came here to make fun of me, didn't you? 00:45:47.982 --> 00:45:49.416 - No, no. No. - No, I get it's... 00:45:49.450 --> 00:45:51.118 It's... I get it. 00:45:51.151 --> 00:45:53.555 Record producer in the middle of nowhere. 00:45:53.588 --> 00:45:56.290 You thought I'd be sillier, smaller. 00:45:56.323 --> 00:45:58.158 I get it. 00:45:58.192 --> 00:46:00.828 Hey, look. 00:46:00.861 --> 00:46:02.363 It's already working. 00:46:02.396 --> 00:46:04.832 You listened. 00:46:04.865 --> 00:46:06.133 You learned. 00:46:09.370 --> 00:46:11.138 Welcome to Texas. 00:46:16.844 --> 00:46:19.046 Thank you. 00:46:30.190 --> 00:46:34.194 The setting sun sets Texas afire with a glow. 00:46:35.062 --> 00:46:36.397 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:46:36.430 --> 00:46:39.099 It's fucking beautiful. 00:46:47.509 --> 00:46:48.976 Well, hi. 00:46:51.912 --> 00:46:53.480 Thank you. 00:46:53.515 --> 00:46:56.116 Uh, when I told my mama that I was gonna move to New York 00:46:56.150 --> 00:46:57.918 and try and make it in music, 00:46:57.951 --> 00:47:00.921 she looked at me and she just said, "Bless your heart." 00:47:00.954 --> 00:47:04.491 Which is Texas for, "Fuck you." 00:47:04.526 --> 00:47:06.327 Love you, Mama. 00:47:07.629 --> 00:47:12.399 ♪ True love will find you in the end ♪ 00:47:14.134 --> 00:47:18.372 ♪ You'll find out just who is your friend ♪ 00:47:21.275 --> 00:47:24.579 ♪ Don't be sad, I know you will... ♪ 00:47:24.612 --> 00:47:26.947 Ah... 00:47:26.980 --> 00:47:29.883 Will you help me unjam my gun? 00:47:30.984 --> 00:47:33.387 I don't know how to do that. 00:47:44.298 --> 00:47:47.234 They ought to call you El Stupido. 00:47:51.573 --> 00:47:53.941 Can I sleep on your floor? 00:47:54.542 --> 00:47:56.544 Yeah. 00:47:56.578 --> 00:47:58.479 Of course. 00:47:59.514 --> 00:48:01.882 Thank you. 00:48:21.536 --> 00:48:24.639 ♪ I'm still drivin' ♪ 00:48:24.672 --> 00:48:27.441 ♪ When's this break gon' come? ♪ 00:48:27.474 --> 00:48:29.943 ♪ You back my pickin' ♪ 00:48:29.977 --> 00:48:33.147 ♪ With a big ol' timpani drum... ♪ 00:48:33.180 --> 00:48:35.683 Vengeance is a unique phenomenon. 00:48:35.717 --> 00:48:37.351 Texas invented vengeance. 00:48:37.384 --> 00:48:40.187 It makes no sense if you think about it. 00:48:40.220 --> 00:48:41.689 Every other primal human instinct 00:48:41.723 --> 00:48:44.091 leads to a clear evolutionary reward. 00:48:44.124 --> 00:48:46.093 But vengeance is different. 00:48:46.126 --> 00:48:47.461 It's not about the future. 00:48:47.494 --> 00:48:49.363 It's only about the past. 00:48:49.396 --> 00:48:51.498 When that massacre happened, we didn't retreat. 00:48:51.533 --> 00:48:55.570 We didn't say, "Let's all make sure we don't get Mexiphobia." 00:48:55.603 --> 00:48:58.071 We said, "Remember the Alamo." 00:48:58.105 --> 00:48:59.541 It's not about hope. 00:48:59.574 --> 00:49:01.275 It's about regret. 00:49:01.308 --> 00:49:03.444 Abby was always creatively minded. 00:49:03.477 --> 00:49:05.580 She would make movies with her sisters. 00:49:05.613 --> 00:49:07.114 Music, of course. 00:49:07.147 --> 00:49:10.384 Oh, she had such a beautiful voice. 00:49:10.417 --> 00:49:12.486 I really wish more people could've heard it. 00:49:12.520 --> 00:49:13.621 You're a writer. 00:49:13.655 --> 00:49:15.489 Anything I'd know? 00:49:16.591 --> 00:49:18.392 None of this. 00:49:18.425 --> 00:49:20.194 The desperation that you see around here, 00:49:20.227 --> 00:49:23.063 it's not from a lack of intelligence or creativity. 00:49:23.096 --> 00:49:24.364 It's an excess. 00:49:24.398 --> 00:49:26.200 We're not really a gun family. 00:49:26.233 --> 00:49:28.368 We have a few rifles for shooting targets, 00:49:28.402 --> 00:49:30.204 a couple handguns for safety, and... 00:49:30.237 --> 00:49:32.215 - And that doesn't concern you? - Why would it concern me? 00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:34.107 There's this playwright, Anton Chekhov, 00:49:34.141 --> 00:49:36.477 and he says that if there's a gun in act one of a play... 00:49:36.511 --> 00:49:39.446 There's no guns in any one of his plays I can think of. 00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:41.281 Cherry Orchard, no. Uncle Vanya, no. 00:49:41.315 --> 00:49:42.660 I'm not actually that familiar with his plays. 00:49:42.684 --> 00:49:44.418 Uh, I'm more familiar with his theory. 00:49:44.451 --> 00:49:48.088 But the stakes of these feelings aren't hypothetical. 00:49:48.121 --> 00:49:49.757 They're all too real. 00:49:49.791 --> 00:49:53.227 I'm your host, Ben Manalowitz, from American Radio Collective. 00:49:53.260 --> 00:49:55.128 This is Dead White Girl. 00:49:55.162 --> 00:49:56.564 Hey. 00:49:56.598 --> 00:49:58.533 So, this is great. 00:49:58.566 --> 00:49:59.767 Really? 00:49:59.801 --> 00:50:01.168 Yeah. 00:50:01.201 --> 00:50:02.646 I'm, like, dorking out over this family. 00:50:02.670 --> 00:50:04.171 Their family's like my family. 00:50:04.204 --> 00:50:05.507 Great. Great. 00:50:05.540 --> 00:50:06.608 Do you have any notes? 00:50:06.641 --> 00:50:08.141 Yeah. I got a couple. 00:50:08.175 --> 00:50:09.376 Thought you said you loved it. 00:50:09.409 --> 00:50:11.779 You asked if I had notes, and I got notes, 00:50:11.813 --> 00:50:13.280 okay, first-timer? 00:50:13.313 --> 00:50:14.825 Okay. All right, all right, what do you got? 00:50:14.849 --> 00:50:17.084 Okay, you're stepping on people's lines, 00:50:17.117 --> 00:50:19.353 - and we need it clean, so... - Yep, yep. 00:50:19.386 --> 00:50:21.689 Just like what you're doing right now. Don't do that. 00:50:21.723 --> 00:50:23.090 Right. 00:50:23.123 --> 00:50:24.792 Don't talk while they're talking. 00:50:24.826 --> 00:50:27.662 Just listen... or pretend to listen. 00:50:27.695 --> 00:50:29.263 Okay. What else? 00:50:29.296 --> 00:50:30.708 And you know what would help some people? 00:50:30.732 --> 00:50:33.400 If you... if you... if you do, like, a silent laugh 00:50:33.433 --> 00:50:34.434 to egg them on. 00:50:34.468 --> 00:50:36.336 You know, like, um... 00:50:37.170 --> 00:50:39.106 Like what? I lost you. 00:50:39.139 --> 00:50:40.508 Like... No, I'm doing it. 00:50:40.542 --> 00:50:42.142 Right, okay. 00:50:42.175 --> 00:50:44.411 Where are you going to next, the... the rodeo? 00:50:44.444 --> 00:50:45.747 Yep, my first rodeo. 00:50:45.780 --> 00:50:47.381 I'm really excited. 00:50:47.414 --> 00:50:48.826 Apparently, it's a real socioeconomic cross section. 00:50:48.850 --> 00:50:52.152 Yeah, and horses and bulls and stuff. 00:50:54.889 --> 00:50:56.089 You're doing it? 00:50:56.123 --> 00:50:57.424 Yeah, could you tell? 00:50:57.457 --> 00:50:58.726 Good luck. 00:51:02.797 --> 00:51:04.431 All right, Ben. 00:51:04.464 --> 00:51:05.843 - You're gonna love this place. - Yeah. 00:51:05.867 --> 00:51:07.467 A whole lot to see, lot to take in. 00:51:07.502 --> 00:51:10.137 "Fourth Annual Bull Bash Cowboy Protection." 00:51:10.170 --> 00:51:12.406 Cowboy protection for, uh, bullfighting 00:51:12.439 --> 00:51:14.374 - in Oyster Creek, Texas. - Cool. Excellent. 00:51:14.408 --> 00:51:16.310 And, uh, you're a pitmaster. 00:51:16.343 --> 00:51:17.177 Yes, sir. 00:51:17.210 --> 00:51:18.454 And what is the secret to your success? 00:51:18.478 --> 00:51:20.748 Time and more time. 00:51:21.448 --> 00:51:24.384 Bingo! - Ten points! 00:51:26.353 --> 00:51:27.889 Oh, hell yes! 00:51:27.922 --> 00:51:29.132 - Ben, you're gonna love this. - All right. 00:51:29.156 --> 00:51:30.223 Deep-fried Twinkies. 00:51:30.257 --> 00:51:31.301 Ben, you gotta try one of these. 00:51:31.325 --> 00:51:32.492 - Hello, beautiful. - Oh! Hi. 00:51:32.527 --> 00:51:34.596 Can I get, uh, one, two, three, four, five 00:51:34.629 --> 00:51:35.797 deep-fried Twinkies? 00:51:35.830 --> 00:51:37.632 Uh, can we get one of those grilled? 00:51:40.233 --> 00:51:41.335 It's fucking good. 00:51:41.368 --> 00:51:42.870 - Fucking good. - Yeah. 00:51:42.904 --> 00:51:44.672 Just keep a low profile, Ben. 00:51:44.706 --> 00:51:45.849 We'll find our man. No doubt. 00:51:45.873 --> 00:51:47.474 Hundred percent. 00:51:47.508 --> 00:51:50.344 Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, 00:51:50.377 --> 00:51:52.446 welcome to the Holliston Rodeo. 00:51:52.479 --> 00:51:56.684 We say a special hello to our sponsors, Stetson Energy, 00:51:56.718 --> 00:51:59.621 McGuane Energy, Trailways Energy Company, 00:51:59.654 --> 00:52:03.625 Rawson Energy, the T&B Energy Company, 00:52:03.658 --> 00:52:07.662 Panhandle Energy, Andrew & Sons Hardware, 00:52:07.695 --> 00:52:09.530 an Energy Corporation, 00:52:09.564 --> 00:52:13.300 Anderton Energy Transport, Donahue Energy, 00:52:13.333 --> 00:52:15.302 and the Quentin Sellers Music Factory, 00:52:15.335 --> 00:52:19.373 making dreams come true since 2018. 00:52:19.406 --> 00:52:23.377 Now, carrying the six beautiful flags of Texas, 00:52:23.410 --> 00:52:26.246 welcome our beautiful riders. 00:52:26.279 --> 00:52:28.382 All right, Ben. 00:52:28.415 --> 00:52:30.283 The six flags of Texas 00:52:30.317 --> 00:52:33.453 -are the six countries that Texas has belonged to. -Okay. 00:52:33.487 --> 00:52:36.223 - Can you name all six? - Uh, the United States. 00:52:36.256 --> 00:52:38.826 Uh, France, Louisiana Purchase, Spain, 00:52:38.860 --> 00:52:40.862 Mexico. Uh... 00:52:40.895 --> 00:52:43.731 Um, uh... Republic of Texas! 00:52:43.765 --> 00:52:44.966 What's that, five? 00:52:44.999 --> 00:52:46.668 Not bad, brother. Not bad. 00:52:46.701 --> 00:52:48.636 Nobody ever gets five. 00:52:51.438 --> 00:52:52.807 Right. 00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:55.475 So Six Flags, the theme park... 00:52:55.510 --> 00:52:56.944 Exactly. 00:52:56.978 --> 00:52:58.980 - Is a Texas company. - Right. 00:53:00.715 --> 00:53:02.416 Very interesting. 00:53:02.449 --> 00:53:04.619 And now, ladies and gentlemen, 00:53:04.652 --> 00:53:05.920 if you're a real Texan, 00:53:05.953 --> 00:53:08.221 you know what to do when this song plays. 00:53:13.861 --> 00:53:15.863 Did you really just try to Shazam 00:53:15.897 --> 00:53:17.899 - "Deep in the Heart of Texas"? - Uh... 00:53:17.932 --> 00:53:19.000 No. 00:53:20.668 --> 00:53:22.713 Now, ladies and gentlemen, who here is a die-hard fan 00:53:22.737 --> 00:53:24.839 of the University of Texas? 00:53:24.872 --> 00:53:26.774 Whoo! 00:53:28.609 --> 00:53:31.746 And who here is a fan of Texas Tech? 00:53:36.818 --> 00:53:39.352 Okay, let's hear from both sides. 00:53:39.386 --> 00:53:41.321 Can we have the UT fan come down? 00:53:41.354 --> 00:53:42.599 - Good luck, buddy. - Give them hell, Ben. 00:53:42.623 --> 00:53:44.525 Is this for real? Are you seriou... 00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:46.326 Do you think we're joking? 00:53:46.359 --> 00:53:49.396 And let's get a Texas Tech fan. 00:54:00.041 --> 00:54:03.010 Okay, let's start with Mr. University of Texas. 00:54:04.579 --> 00:54:06.013 Now, what's your name, son? 00:54:06.047 --> 00:54:07.481 Ben Manalowitz. 00:54:07.515 --> 00:54:09.617 What the whosit? 00:54:11.384 --> 00:54:12.920 And what do you do, son? 00:54:12.954 --> 00:54:14.589 I'm a writer. 00:54:14.622 --> 00:54:15.489 A rider? 00:54:15.523 --> 00:54:16.758 You don't look like a rider. 00:54:16.791 --> 00:54:17.859 What do you ride, son? 00:54:17.892 --> 00:54:19.493 Huh? 00:54:19.527 --> 00:54:21.028 Well, there's lots of kinds of riding. 00:54:21.062 --> 00:54:23.798 You can ride horses, steer, tractors. 00:54:23.831 --> 00:54:24.999 No. 00:54:25.032 --> 00:54:27.668 I'm not a rider. I'm a writer. 00:54:28.669 --> 00:54:31.304 I'm a writer. 00:54:31.338 --> 00:54:33.941 So, like, you know, uh... 00:54:33.975 --> 00:54:38.813 when... when you come across a book or a magazine... 00:54:39.781 --> 00:54:43.450 or even an article that you read online. 00:54:44.085 --> 00:54:45.653 Somebody has to... 00:54:45.686 --> 00:54:48.388 has to actually think about what those words... 00:54:48.421 --> 00:54:50.658 I know what a writer is, you condescending asshole. 00:54:53.127 --> 00:54:54.729 Well, tell me, Shakespeare, 00:54:54.762 --> 00:54:57.932 what do you like so much about the University of Texas? 00:55:01.434 --> 00:55:04.404 Well, I like that it's a state school. 00:55:04.437 --> 00:55:07.407 So, it gives financial opportunities 00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:10.511 to local people who could use the help. 00:55:10.545 --> 00:55:14.849 And I know that it has a very good film department. 00:55:14.882 --> 00:55:17.051 Some of the graduates include, 00:55:17.084 --> 00:55:18.786 I believe, Richard Linklater. 00:55:18.820 --> 00:55:20.988 Uh-huh. Okay. 00:55:21.022 --> 00:55:23.758 And what do you like about Texas Tech? 00:55:23.791 --> 00:55:26.828 Quarterback Matt Harris! 00:55:29.597 --> 00:55:30.430 Guns up! 00:55:30.463 --> 00:55:31.933 Repping Tech! 00:55:33.801 --> 00:55:36.436 ♪ Shake that thang, make that thang ♪ 00:55:36.469 --> 00:55:38.582 ♪ Bend until you think it's gonna break that thang... ♪ 00:55:38.606 --> 00:55:39.774 Don't worry about it. 00:55:39.807 --> 00:55:41.742 - Nobody's thinking about it. - Yeah. 00:55:41.776 --> 00:55:43.110 Erase it from your mind. 00:55:43.144 --> 00:55:44.846 Enjoy. 00:55:44.879 --> 00:55:46.723 ♪ When she moves that thang, grooves that thang ♪ 00:55:46.747 --> 00:55:49.984 ♪ Swing to the rhythm of the groove that thang... ♪ 00:55:50.017 --> 00:55:51.853 Whoo! Shake it, girls! 00:55:51.886 --> 00:55:53.654 ♪ Nobody else does what she does to me ♪ 00:55:53.688 --> 00:55:54.622 Not you, KC. 00:55:54.655 --> 00:55:56.389 ♪ Shake that thang... ♪ 00:55:56.423 --> 00:55:57.959 How do they all... 00:55:57.992 --> 00:56:00.094 know how to do the same...? 00:56:00.127 --> 00:56:02.530 Collective consciousness. 00:56:02.563 --> 00:56:05.566 ♪ Every song is such a sight to see ♪ 00:56:05.600 --> 00:56:07.602 ♪ When she moves that thang, grooves that thang ♪ 00:56:07.635 --> 00:56:09.704 ♪ Swing to the rhythm of the groove that thang ♪ 00:56:11.105 --> 00:56:12.740 ♪ Speaks for itself ♪ 00:56:12.773 --> 00:56:15.576 ♪ Nobody else does what she does to me ♪ 00:56:15.610 --> 00:56:18.813 ♪ When she shakes that thang... ♪ 00:56:19.814 --> 00:56:21.381 Sancholo. 00:56:25.485 --> 00:56:26.554 Whoa, whoa, whoa! 00:56:26.587 --> 00:56:27.989 - You going over there? - Yeah. 00:56:28.022 --> 00:56:29.023 You want my gun? 00:56:29.056 --> 00:56:30.157 You brought a gun? 00:56:30.191 --> 00:56:32.026 Didn't I? Phone, keys, wallet, gun. 00:56:32.059 --> 00:56:33.728 - Yeah. - No. No. 00:56:33.761 --> 00:56:36.564 ♪ Nobody else does what she does to me ♪ 00:56:36.597 --> 00:56:38.733 ♪ When she shakes that thang ♪ 00:56:38.766 --> 00:56:42.069 ♪ Swinging like an old screen door ♪ 00:56:42.103 --> 00:56:45.405 ♪ Lord, she makes that thang... ♪ 00:56:46.073 --> 00:56:48.676 Excuse me, are you Sancholo? 00:56:50.211 --> 00:56:51.788 I was hoping to talk to you for a second. 00:56:51.812 --> 00:56:53.180 You a cop? 00:56:53.214 --> 00:56:54.815 Not a cop. 00:56:54.849 --> 00:56:56.550 Cop don't have to say he's a cop. 00:56:56.584 --> 00:56:58.619 Then why did you ask? 00:56:58.653 --> 00:57:00.197 - Right? - 'Cause you're wasting my time. 00:57:00.221 --> 00:57:02.857 Figured I might as well waste yours. 00:57:02.890 --> 00:57:04.091 Look, I'm a journalist. 00:57:04.125 --> 00:57:05.860 I'm doing a story. 00:57:05.893 --> 00:57:07.638 I was really only hoping to ask you a couple of questions. 00:57:07.662 --> 00:57:09.206 - I'm just trying to... - Just trying to what? 00:57:09.230 --> 00:57:10.865 - Fucking killer! - Hey, Ty. Relax! 00:57:10.898 --> 00:57:14.502 Guys, guys, guys, guys. Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys. 00:57:14.535 --> 00:57:17.538 Go easy on him. He just lost his sister. 00:57:18.539 --> 00:57:20.473 Most beautiful girl in Texas. 00:57:20.508 --> 00:57:22.475 So what I heard was that you were at the party 00:57:22.510 --> 00:57:23.911 where she died. 00:57:23.945 --> 00:57:25.579 Lucky me. 00:57:25.613 --> 00:57:27.748 She took her last breath 00:57:27.782 --> 00:57:29.583 on my shoulder. 00:57:32.086 --> 00:57:33.688 My name is Ben Manalowitz. 00:57:33.721 --> 00:57:35.589 I'm doing a podcast about Abilene. 00:57:35.623 --> 00:57:38.726 I would love to hear your side of the story. 00:57:39.593 --> 00:57:40.594 Hey. 00:57:40.628 --> 00:57:42.697 We got a regular Joe Rogan here. 00:57:42.730 --> 00:57:45.166 Joe Rogan meets Seth Rogen. 00:57:50.004 --> 00:57:51.939 Just you. 00:58:27.174 --> 00:58:29.744 When I was in middle school, 00:58:29.777 --> 00:58:33.314 my mom wouldn't let me read Harry Potter 00:58:33.347 --> 00:58:35.683 because of church stuff. 00:58:35.716 --> 00:58:41.122 So I would call Abby every night. 00:58:41.155 --> 00:58:43.124 She would read it to me. 00:58:47.728 --> 00:58:50.064 I don't know what made her care about me. 00:58:50.097 --> 00:58:51.599 I was like, "Why me? 00:58:51.632 --> 00:58:54.168 I'm just an effing dropout drug dealer." 00:58:54.201 --> 00:58:57.838 She'd say, "Heart sees heart." 00:58:57.872 --> 00:58:59.740 Right. 00:58:59.774 --> 00:59:01.042 She used to text that to me 00:59:01.075 --> 00:59:05.846 every day on that dumbass little Razr phone. 00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:07.281 - You remember those? - Yeah. 00:59:07.314 --> 00:59:09.750 5-4-5. 00:59:11.018 --> 00:59:12.820 Heart sees heart. 00:59:12.853 --> 00:59:14.889 It was, like, her little code. 00:59:17.391 --> 00:59:19.060 I miss her so much. 00:59:20.694 --> 00:59:23.697 You told me that her last breath was on your shoulder. 00:59:23.731 --> 00:59:24.932 And other people told me 00:59:24.965 --> 00:59:26.376 that you threw the party where she died. 00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:29.103 I wasn't even there. 00:59:30.104 --> 00:59:32.039 Okay. 00:59:32.073 --> 00:59:34.108 Where were you? 00:59:39.980 --> 00:59:41.782 Look at the date. 00:59:48.089 --> 00:59:49.190 Where is this? 00:59:49.223 --> 00:59:52.093 Tulsa. I went to see Adele. 00:59:53.761 --> 00:59:55.096 I was there with my niece. 00:59:55.129 --> 00:59:56.831 She... She loves her. 00:59:56.864 --> 00:59:57.932 Adele? 00:59:57.965 --> 00:59:59.834 Obviously, I'm gonna have to kill you 00:59:59.867 --> 01:00:00.835 if you tell anyone about that. 01:00:00.868 --> 01:00:02.703 No, it's... 01:00:03.304 --> 01:00:04.905 Yeah. 01:00:04.939 --> 01:00:06.907 I'm a fan. 01:00:09.143 --> 01:00:11.679 So... 01:00:11.712 --> 01:00:12.980 you have an alibi, 01:00:13.013 --> 01:00:15.316 but you want people to think you killed her? 01:00:15.349 --> 01:00:17.118 These fucking cartels, man. 01:00:17.151 --> 01:00:18.895 They're gonna control everything pretty soon. 01:00:18.919 --> 01:00:21.856 - You're the cartels. - No, sir. 01:00:21.889 --> 01:00:24.024 It kills me to claim her, 01:00:24.058 --> 01:00:26.727 but I don't know. 01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:29.396 If they don't actually think I killed someone, 01:00:29.430 --> 01:00:32.233 then I might have to kill someone... 01:00:33.434 --> 01:00:34.835 to prove myself. 01:00:34.869 --> 01:00:36.403 That's not really how it works, is it? 01:00:36.437 --> 01:00:37.872 It's what I heard. 01:00:37.905 --> 01:00:39.406 Go on Snopes. It's not a real thing. 01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:40.908 Excuse me? 01:00:41.942 --> 01:00:44.278 So, let me piece this together. She OD'd... 01:00:44.311 --> 01:00:46.156 The fuck? This is Abby we're talking about here, okay? 01:00:46.180 --> 01:00:47.948 She wouldn't touch the stuff. 01:00:47.982 --> 01:00:49.917 Girl wouldn't touch an Advil. 01:00:51.385 --> 01:00:54.955 Listen, they found her two and a half miles from the party, 01:00:54.989 --> 01:00:56.690 at a spot where all the deaths happen 01:00:56.724 --> 01:00:58.025 called "the Afterparty." 01:00:58.058 --> 01:01:01.162 You don't just wander off like that by yourself. 01:01:01.195 --> 01:01:02.997 Someone takes you there. 01:01:04.465 --> 01:01:06.333 This was no OD. 01:01:06.367 --> 01:01:07.868 No fucking way. 01:01:10.204 --> 01:01:12.273 Who goes to these parties? 01:01:12.306 --> 01:01:13.774 Everybody. 01:01:13.807 --> 01:01:15.943 - Everybody goes. Nobody went. - Yeah. 01:01:16.944 --> 01:01:19.146 - Same people every time? - Yes. 01:01:20.881 --> 01:01:22.716 When's the next one? 01:01:23.350 --> 01:01:25.686 Whenever I want. 01:01:34.128 --> 01:01:36.197 You're at 11%, bro. 01:01:36.230 --> 01:01:38.732 You might want to switch to low power mode. 01:01:39.333 --> 01:01:41.235 Thank you. 01:01:54.381 --> 01:01:55.916 Hello? 01:01:55.950 --> 01:01:57.818 What if she was murdered? 01:01:59.286 --> 01:02:00.955 What? 01:02:00.988 --> 01:02:02.098 We dismissed the first theory presented 01:02:02.122 --> 01:02:03.490 without even thinking about it. 01:02:03.525 --> 01:02:05.259 What if we're not taking them seriously? 01:02:05.292 --> 01:02:10.231 Wait, so are you saying the Mexican drug dealer did it? 01:02:10.264 --> 01:02:11.498 Definitely not that. 01:02:11.533 --> 01:02:13.009 But that was the first theory presented. 01:02:13.033 --> 01:02:16.103 I'm just sure it wasn't that. 01:02:16.136 --> 01:02:18.239 Why are you so sure? 01:02:18.272 --> 01:02:19.773 Gut. 01:02:19.807 --> 01:02:21.509 - Gut? - Look, 01:02:21.543 --> 01:02:23.143 I know we liked what we had before. 01:02:23.177 --> 01:02:26.247 Something about America and fantasy and regret 01:02:26.280 --> 01:02:27.515 and the meaning of vengeance. 01:02:27.549 --> 01:02:31.018 No, no. This... this is better. 01:02:32.186 --> 01:02:34.154 This just keeps getting bigger and bigger. 01:02:35.122 --> 01:02:36.257 Right? 01:02:36.290 --> 01:02:37.358 Okay. 01:02:37.391 --> 01:02:39.126 Stay safe. 01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:40.461 Get the story. 01:02:40.494 --> 01:02:41.862 Not in that order. 01:02:41.895 --> 01:02:43.831 No. In that order. 01:03:12.560 --> 01:03:14.529 What are you watching? 01:03:14.562 --> 01:03:18.932 Um, videos of Abilene. 01:03:21.569 --> 01:03:23.904 Do you see my phone? 01:03:24.539 --> 01:03:26.440 How it's, like, cracked. 01:03:26.473 --> 01:03:27.941 Yeah. 01:03:27.975 --> 01:03:31.145 It makes me look the way that I feel. 01:03:32.614 --> 01:03:35.382 Um... 01:03:37.951 --> 01:03:39.353 Where do I know you from? 01:03:39.386 --> 01:03:40.588 Rodeo. 01:03:40.622 --> 01:03:42.256 It's the Longhorns fan. 01:03:42.289 --> 01:03:44.592 Indeed it is, Mike. Indeed it is. 01:03:44.626 --> 01:03:46.594 Actually, that was a misunderstanding. 01:03:46.628 --> 01:03:48.329 I'm sorry. I'm not even a football fan. 01:03:48.362 --> 01:03:50.331 Um, I was just trying to fit in. 01:03:50.364 --> 01:03:52.199 Funny way to fit in around here. 01:03:52.232 --> 01:03:53.233 Point taken. 01:03:53.267 --> 01:03:55.969 I didn't know there was gonna be another team. 01:03:56.003 --> 01:03:58.038 I was cheering for Texas. 01:04:00.107 --> 01:04:00.974 Um... 01:04:01.008 --> 01:04:02.876 I'd love to ask you a couple questions 01:04:02.910 --> 01:04:04.478 about the death of Abilene Shaw. 01:04:04.512 --> 01:04:06.080 - OD'd. - Accident. 01:04:06.113 --> 01:04:07.357 I know that was the official report. 01:04:07.381 --> 01:04:09.483 I was wondering, were you able to talk to anyone 01:04:09.517 --> 01:04:11.151 who was there the night she died? 01:04:12.086 --> 01:04:14.622 You ever go to a party out by the pump jacks? 01:04:14.656 --> 01:04:17.958 Everybody goes and nobody was there. 01:04:17.991 --> 01:04:19.426 I wasn't there. 01:04:19.460 --> 01:04:20.528 I wasn't there. 01:04:22.564 --> 01:04:25.165 Why are you so interested anyway? 01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:27.401 You her, uh, boyfriend or something? 01:04:28.402 --> 01:04:31.372 Uh, we hung out. 01:04:31.405 --> 01:04:33.240 Yeah. Yeah, I was her boyfriend. 01:04:33.273 --> 01:04:35.686 Well, you know, 90% of the time it's the boyfriend who did it. 01:04:35.710 --> 01:04:37.387 Okay, I wasn't... I wasn't really her boyfriend. 01:04:37.411 --> 01:04:39.980 His story's starting to sound a little inconsistent. 01:04:40.013 --> 01:04:41.982 Swiss cheese. 01:04:42.015 --> 01:04:44.686 Yeah, um, I'm not trying to cause any problems here. 01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:46.359 I'm really just trying to help the family. 01:04:46.387 --> 01:04:48.656 You know, this isn't even our jurisdiction anyways. 01:04:50.157 --> 01:04:51.468 Party happened outside city limits. 01:04:51.492 --> 01:04:53.460 - Mm. - That's county, not city. 01:04:53.494 --> 01:04:55.062 - County sheriff. - Sheriff'll talk. 01:04:55.095 --> 01:04:56.430 Sheriff's a politician. 01:04:56.463 --> 01:04:58.232 Ain't that a fact. 01:04:58.265 --> 01:05:00.934 I'd love to help you, son, but our policy is we can't comment 01:05:00.968 --> 01:05:03.003 on our process or cases. 01:05:03.036 --> 01:05:06.106 Well, I was interviewing people for a podcast 01:05:06.140 --> 01:05:07.685 that could be heard by millions of people. 01:05:07.709 --> 01:05:10.911 But I guess that's not a possibility. 01:05:11.579 --> 01:05:12.647 These are oxy sticks. 01:05:12.680 --> 01:05:14.281 See how the pills are squared off? 01:05:14.314 --> 01:05:16.551 That way, they can pack 'em in boxes to the corners 01:05:16.584 --> 01:05:18.686 - without wasting any space. - Mm-hmm. 01:05:18.720 --> 01:05:20.555 That's how big this business is. 01:05:20.588 --> 01:05:22.156 We don't know who's shipping it. 01:05:22.189 --> 01:05:23.734 All we know is they're coming along the interstate 01:05:23.758 --> 01:05:25.259 right along the border. 01:05:25.292 --> 01:05:27.428 And that route cuts right by the oil field 01:05:27.461 --> 01:05:29.029 where the party was. 01:05:29.062 --> 01:05:30.541 The most common overdose spot in the county. 01:05:30.565 --> 01:05:32.667 We call it "the Afterparty." 01:05:32.700 --> 01:05:34.968 Very common thing, sad to say. 01:05:36.036 --> 01:05:37.572 What's this right here? 01:05:37.605 --> 01:05:40.307 Looks like two pairs of prints. 01:05:40.340 --> 01:05:41.341 Cowboy boots. 01:05:42.544 --> 01:05:45.312 Calling out an APB to find two men wearing cowboy boots. 01:05:48.348 --> 01:05:50.050 - Okay. - What the fuck? 01:05:50.083 --> 01:05:52.186 Stand down. 01:05:52.219 --> 01:05:54.556 Son, I wish you well, I really do. 01:05:54.589 --> 01:05:56.056 And bless your little heart, 01:05:56.089 --> 01:05:58.225 but this ain't even our jurisdiction, though. 01:05:59.059 --> 01:06:00.160 - It's not? - No, sir. 01:06:00.194 --> 01:06:02.062 This was along the highway. 01:06:02.095 --> 01:06:04.131 You want to talk to highway patrol. 01:06:05.332 --> 01:06:07.076 Well, ain't that just like a sheriff to puff his hot air 01:06:07.100 --> 01:06:09.236 and blow you straight into my office. 01:06:09.269 --> 01:06:10.738 If there's a drug overdose at a party 01:06:10.772 --> 01:06:12.339 in some fucking field off 29, 01:06:12.372 --> 01:06:14.709 I'm sorry, but we got shit to do. 01:06:14.742 --> 01:06:16.511 We're not a bunch of Army rejects 01:06:16.544 --> 01:06:18.412 just gazing at the Rio Grande. 01:06:18.445 --> 01:06:20.558 - I never said that you were. - I wasn't talking about us. 01:06:20.582 --> 01:06:23.283 Oh, is that what they told you over at highway patrol? 01:06:23.317 --> 01:06:25.185 Well, you can go tell Junior Brown 01:06:25.219 --> 01:06:27.221 and the rest of them glorified meter maids 01:06:27.254 --> 01:06:29.757 that if they spent more time with their real guns 01:06:29.791 --> 01:06:31.492 and less with their radar guns, 01:06:31.526 --> 01:06:34.261 we might not have to chase the goddamn Texas syndicate 01:06:34.294 --> 01:06:36.230 up and down the Trans-Pecos! 01:06:36.263 --> 01:06:36.898 Got it? 01:06:36.931 --> 01:06:39.099 Yes. If I find a natural way 01:06:39.132 --> 01:06:40.711 to work that into the conversation with them, 01:06:40.735 --> 01:06:41.736 I will do that. 01:06:41.769 --> 01:06:43.638 - DRT. - DRT. 01:06:43.671 --> 01:06:45.507 - DRT. - Dead right there. 01:06:45.540 --> 01:06:48.475 Law enforcement was no help at all. 01:06:48.510 --> 01:06:51.779 You're learning a lot down there, aren't you? 01:06:51.813 --> 01:06:54.181 The murder or overdose happened where a lot 01:06:54.214 --> 01:06:55.650 of these things happen. 01:06:55.683 --> 01:06:57.661 At the intersection of four overlapping jurisdictions. 01:06:57.685 --> 01:06:59.152 So they all kicked it to each other. 01:06:59.186 --> 01:07:01.054 What are the odds? 01:07:01.088 --> 01:07:03.758 What are the odds? 01:07:03.791 --> 01:07:05.527 Okay, I'm gonna kick this around 01:07:05.560 --> 01:07:08.161 with the team for a little bit, shake up the Boggle board, 01:07:08.195 --> 01:07:11.131 and then I'm gonna hit up Robin to get her thoughts. 01:07:11.164 --> 01:07:13.133 All right. Thanks, Eloise. Thanks, everybody. 01:07:13.166 --> 01:07:15.369 - Bye, Ben. - Bye, Ben. 01:07:19.373 --> 01:07:23.477 Um, you're probably not even gonna watch this, 01:07:23.511 --> 01:07:29.249 but I'm back home in Texas, and I'm bored. 01:07:29.283 --> 01:07:31.084 This is my little brother, Mason. 01:07:31.118 --> 01:07:32.352 He sleeps on my floor 01:07:32.386 --> 01:07:34.087 because he's afraid of ghosts. 01:07:34.121 --> 01:07:36.290 And I tried to tell him 01:07:36.323 --> 01:07:38.492 there's no such thing as ghosts, but whatever. 01:07:38.526 --> 01:07:40.728 It keeps him close to me. 01:07:41.629 --> 01:07:44.331 So I guess it's not all bad being here. 01:07:45.399 --> 01:07:47.100 That's, um... 01:07:47.134 --> 01:07:49.136 Well, that's it. 01:07:56.476 --> 01:07:58.211 Mason. 01:07:58.846 --> 01:08:00.515 Yes, sir? 01:08:04.752 --> 01:08:06.754 Just saying good night. 01:08:06.788 --> 01:08:10.490 You woke me up just to say good night? 01:08:11.626 --> 01:08:13.427 Yes, sir. 01:08:17.599 --> 01:08:20.334 I love you mucho. 01:08:21.836 --> 01:08:23.605 Collective consciousness. 01:08:23.638 --> 01:08:25.840 If everyone believes the same thing... 01:08:28.408 --> 01:08:30.344 but without any facts to support it, 01:08:30.377 --> 01:08:32.914 do we listen to that intuition or dismiss it? 01:08:32.947 --> 01:08:34.515 An overdose? 01:08:34.549 --> 01:08:36.259 Girl never took so much as an Advil in her life. 01:08:36.283 --> 01:08:37.785 She never touched so much as an Advil. 01:08:37.819 --> 01:08:40.187 You ever go to a party out by the pump jacks? 01:08:40.220 --> 01:08:41.355 Everybody goes. Nobody went. 01:08:41.388 --> 01:08:42.489 I wasn't there. 01:08:44.257 --> 01:08:45.769 The problem is you get all these bright, 01:08:45.793 --> 01:08:47.638 creative lights and nowhere to plug in their energy. 01:08:47.662 --> 01:08:49.831 And so it gets channeled into conspiracy theories 01:08:49.864 --> 01:08:51.498 and drugs and violence. 01:08:51.532 --> 01:08:53.333 I came here to find out why people in grief 01:08:53.367 --> 01:08:55.770 would choose to believe a myth. 01:08:55.803 --> 01:08:57.772 I don't know shit about how this all connects, 01:08:57.805 --> 01:08:58.849 but you bet your ass it does. 01:08:58.873 --> 01:09:01.208 MS-13? La Línea? 01:09:01.241 --> 01:09:03.243 Yeah, I'm familiar with La Línea. 01:09:03.276 --> 01:09:05.278 They actually murdered 41 journalists last year. 01:09:05.312 --> 01:09:06.748 Oh, they've done bad things, too. 01:09:13.821 --> 01:09:15.455 But now I find myself wondering 01:09:15.489 --> 01:09:18.826 how much truth might be embedded in that intuition. 01:09:18.860 --> 01:09:20.671 You don't happen to know her phone password, do you? 01:09:20.695 --> 01:09:23.330 Took it to every Geek Squad in the state. 01:09:23.363 --> 01:09:24.699 It's impossible to crack. 01:09:24.732 --> 01:09:26.477 - This ain't us. - You got the wrong department. 01:09:26.501 --> 01:09:28.603 - Highway patrol. -Mike and Dan. - Border patrol. 01:09:28.636 --> 01:09:30.337 - Sheriff's department. - You want county. 01:09:30.370 --> 01:09:31.939 Everything's bigger in Texas, 01:09:31.973 --> 01:09:35.810 including your expectations and its reality. 01:09:35.843 --> 01:09:38.278 I'm your host, Ben Manalowitz, 01:09:38.311 --> 01:09:40.247 and from American Radio Collective, 01:09:40.280 --> 01:09:42.884 this is Abilene. 01:09:42.917 --> 01:09:43.918 Hey. 01:09:43.951 --> 01:09:45.887 Guess who's on the line. 01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:47.421 Hey. It's Robin. 01:09:47.454 --> 01:09:48.723 I produce American Moment. 01:09:48.756 --> 01:09:50.725 Yeah. I-I know who you are. 01:09:50.758 --> 01:09:52.503 It's-it's, um... It's great to meet you, Robin. 01:09:52.527 --> 01:09:54.361 - How are you? - Great to talk to you. 01:09:54.394 --> 01:09:56.698 I love what you're doing with Dead White Girl. 01:09:56.731 --> 01:09:58.733 Thank you. Thank you so much. 01:09:58.766 --> 01:10:00.968 Eloise pitched that we use some of the story 01:10:01.002 --> 01:10:03.004 as a segment on American Moment, 01:10:03.037 --> 01:10:04.906 and that would help promote your series. 01:10:04.939 --> 01:10:06.974 Wow. So it'd be on American Moment. 01:10:07.008 --> 01:10:08.976 Everything you're getting is great. 01:10:09.010 --> 01:10:10.611 The characters are amazing. 01:10:10.645 --> 01:10:12.388 Yeah. No, I mean, the characters are unbelievable. 01:10:12.412 --> 01:10:13.715 Ty is just a total firecracker. 01:10:13.748 --> 01:10:15.850 And Granny deserves her own show. 01:10:15.883 --> 01:10:18.452 And then Abilene, I mean... 01:10:18.485 --> 01:10:20.487 The more people hear her voice, 01:10:20.521 --> 01:10:22.456 the more they're gonna fall in love with her. 01:10:22.489 --> 01:10:24.659 So if you think you can tighten up what you have, 01:10:24.692 --> 01:10:27.695 we can work it into Sunday's episode. 01:10:28.663 --> 01:10:30.631 Yeah. I... Absolutely. 01:10:30.665 --> 01:10:31.866 I'd love to. 01:10:31.899 --> 01:10:33.668 Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I can do that. 01:10:33.701 --> 01:10:35.937 Can I ask what you're eating? 01:10:35.970 --> 01:10:37.772 This is, um, Frito pie. 01:10:37.805 --> 01:10:38.906 It's great sound. 01:10:38.940 --> 01:10:40.273 What is that? 01:10:40.307 --> 01:10:41.943 Uh, Frito pie 01:10:41.976 --> 01:10:44.344 is when they cut open a bag of Fritos 01:10:44.377 --> 01:10:45.613 and they pour chili in it. 01:10:45.646 --> 01:10:46.957 Then you eat it out of the bag with a fork. 01:10:46.981 --> 01:10:48.049 Ugh. That is disgusting. 01:10:48.082 --> 01:10:49.517 Yeah, in a good way. 01:10:51.384 --> 01:10:53.688 Ben, are you there? 01:10:53.721 --> 01:10:56.791 Ben, did I lose you? 01:11:03.030 --> 01:11:05.633 What happened to you, son? 01:11:06.667 --> 01:11:08.803 My Prius exploded. 01:11:08.836 --> 01:11:10.303 Mm-hmm. 01:11:14.374 --> 01:11:15.977 Oh, thank heavens. Are you all right? 01:11:16.010 --> 01:11:17.578 Hey. 01:11:17.612 --> 01:11:19.080 - Yeah. - Oh, look at that. 01:11:19.113 --> 01:11:20.648 - Oh, hey. - What happened? 01:11:20.681 --> 01:11:23.450 - I'm fine. - His car blew up, Mom! 01:11:23.483 --> 01:11:24.786 Oh, it's so fucked up! This... 01:11:24.819 --> 01:11:26.386 - Tyler Clayton! - Sorry. 01:11:26.419 --> 01:11:27.765 We're just so grateful you're all right. 01:11:27.789 --> 01:11:30.323 Oh, my God. What if you were driving a real car 01:11:30.357 --> 01:11:31.526 with gas and stuff? 01:11:33.060 --> 01:11:34.529 Yeah. 01:11:34.562 --> 01:11:36.831 Ben, this is a message that we're getting close. 01:11:36.864 --> 01:11:41.301 Or it's kids fucking around for no reason with Tannerite. 01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:47.608 I can't believe you're all here. 01:11:47.642 --> 01:11:50.477 Well, where else would we be? 01:11:50.511 --> 01:11:52.847 Come on. The girls are waiting in the car. 01:11:53.848 --> 01:11:55.382 Let's go. 01:11:55.415 --> 01:11:56.493 - Hey, are you limping? - No. 01:11:56.517 --> 01:11:57.819 You sure about that? 01:11:57.852 --> 01:11:59.596 - Come on, Mama. - Yeah. His face looks all right. 01:11:59.620 --> 01:12:01.656 - He's gonna be all right. - Yeah, I seen worse. 01:12:01.689 --> 01:12:03.490 Come on, buddy. 01:12:03.524 --> 01:12:04.992 - How is everything? - So good. 01:12:05.026 --> 01:12:06.561 This is our friend Ben. 01:12:06.594 --> 01:12:08.830 And this is his first time at Whataburger. 01:12:11.132 --> 01:12:12.700 - Let's have a toast. - Thank you. 01:12:12.733 --> 01:12:14.434 - To Ben. -Come on, to Ben. - To Ben. 01:12:14.467 --> 01:12:15.579 - Whataburger, Whataburger. - To a good milkshake. 01:12:15.603 --> 01:12:16.871 - Whoopah. - Over there. 01:12:16.904 --> 01:12:17.905 Thanks. 01:12:18.973 --> 01:12:22.076 Well, what do you think? 01:12:22.109 --> 01:12:23.845 I love this. 01:12:23.878 --> 01:12:25.146 You do? 01:12:25.179 --> 01:12:28.850 And it's always right there. 01:12:34.522 --> 01:12:36.691 - Excuse me, Mama. - Ooh. 01:12:36.724 --> 01:12:38.391 Mm. 01:12:38.425 --> 01:12:39.961 It's a Texas thing. 01:12:39.994 --> 01:12:41.638 You're not supposed to do it, but you're supposed to do it. 01:12:41.662 --> 01:12:43.731 You're supposed to take your lucky number, 01:12:43.764 --> 01:12:46.000 but we figure every number's lucky to somebody, 01:12:46.033 --> 01:12:47.602 so we take all of 'em. 01:12:47.635 --> 01:12:49.103 I won't tell Mike and Dan. 01:12:49.136 --> 01:12:50.403 Like they'd do anything. 01:12:50.437 --> 01:12:51.906 They'd say it was an accident. 01:12:53.174 --> 01:12:54.642 Party tonight. 01:12:54.675 --> 01:12:56.878 - Oh, what's the dress code? - Ugh. 01:12:56.911 --> 01:12:58.846 Broncos and buckle bunnies. 01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:00.557 Ugh. You know, they're seriously phoning it in 01:13:00.581 --> 01:13:01.916 with the themes nowadays. 01:13:01.949 --> 01:13:03.150 You want to come tonight? 01:13:03.184 --> 01:13:04.151 You can borrow something from my closet. 01:13:04.185 --> 01:13:05.686 You're okay to go? 01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:08.455 It doesn't stir up too many feelings for you? 01:13:10.157 --> 01:13:12.059 You gotta keep living life. 01:13:12.093 --> 01:13:13.694 Like Catherine the Great said, 01:13:13.728 --> 01:13:15.930 "You gotta get right back under the horse." 01:13:16.797 --> 01:13:18.733 Tyler Clayton. - What? 01:13:18.766 --> 01:13:22.169 I-I listened to that history podcast you recommended. 01:13:22.203 --> 01:13:23.638 I've got a question for you. 01:13:23.671 --> 01:13:26.040 Have you got family in Texas? 01:13:26.073 --> 01:13:27.675 No. 01:13:27.708 --> 01:13:29.510 You do now. 01:13:29.543 --> 01:13:31.579 - Isn't that right, everybody? - Yes, ma'am. 01:13:31.612 --> 01:13:34.081 Careful what you wish for, Ben. 01:13:37.952 --> 01:13:39.654 One second. 01:13:39.687 --> 01:13:41.454 Who's got a honey thing over there? 01:13:41.488 --> 01:13:43.991 - Um, I got some right here. - Anybody? Mmm, mmm, mmm. 01:13:44.025 --> 01:13:46.527 - Hey. What's up? - Hey. 01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:47.929 Your car blew up? 01:13:47.962 --> 01:13:49.664 Are you okay? 01:13:49.697 --> 01:13:50.731 Yeah. Yes. 01:13:50.765 --> 01:13:53.200 I mean, I wish I got that extra rental insurance 01:13:53.234 --> 01:13:55.468 that no one ever gets, but I'm fine. 01:13:55.503 --> 01:13:57.238 Good. Well, listen, I finished it, 01:13:57.271 --> 01:13:58.639 and everyone loves it. 01:13:58.673 --> 01:14:00.207 Thanks. What do you mean "finished it"? 01:14:00.241 --> 01:14:01.809 You're clearly in danger, 01:14:01.842 --> 01:14:04.679 and you've already got everything you need. 01:14:04.712 --> 01:14:08.082 Well, I didn't solve the murder. 01:14:08.115 --> 01:14:09.850 It's better this way. 01:14:09.884 --> 01:14:12.887 You know, an ambiguous ending without resolution. 01:14:12.920 --> 01:14:17.158 That's... that's the secret weapon with a story like this. 01:14:17.191 --> 01:14:18.526 It gnaws at you. 01:14:18.559 --> 01:14:21.162 It haunts you forever. 01:14:21.195 --> 01:14:22.563 You never let it go. 01:14:22.596 --> 01:14:23.707 No, there's more to it, Eloise. 01:14:23.731 --> 01:14:24.966 I-I'm getting so close. 01:14:24.999 --> 01:14:26.701 As much as we'd love to see you 01:14:26.734 --> 01:14:28.703 - blown up for a story... - No, no. 01:14:28.736 --> 01:14:30.237 My conscience tells me 01:14:30.271 --> 01:14:32.173 I have to choose a person over a story. 01:14:32.206 --> 01:14:33.908 No. 01:14:33.941 --> 01:14:35.009 No, no. 01:14:35.042 --> 01:14:38.713 Otherwise, it would take, like, two years of therapy 01:14:38.746 --> 01:14:41.115 to justify it, and... 01:14:41.148 --> 01:14:43.551 I can't afford that on my plan. 01:14:43.584 --> 01:14:46.020 Look, you're gonna be huge from this. 01:14:46.053 --> 01:14:47.188 Okay? 01:14:47.221 --> 01:14:48.255 Come home. 01:14:52.827 --> 01:14:54.996 - You remember? - Hey, you. 01:14:55.029 --> 01:14:56.764 Hey. Sorry about that. 01:14:56.797 --> 01:14:58.265 Who was that? 01:14:58.299 --> 01:15:00.267 Friend. 01:15:00.301 --> 01:15:02.003 Was it Equinox Girl Cute? 01:15:02.036 --> 01:15:03.804 Or was it Natalie Bumble? 01:15:03.838 --> 01:15:05.740 Uh, it was, uh, my podcast producer. 01:15:05.773 --> 01:15:08.743 Uh, and everything's on track. 01:15:08.776 --> 01:15:10.277 You're very sweet to ask. 01:15:10.311 --> 01:15:12.213 I love you mucho. 01:15:12.246 --> 01:15:14.715 We're so lucky you found Abilene. 01:15:15.649 --> 01:15:18.085 I really don't know what she saw in me. 01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:19.286 I do. 01:15:19.320 --> 01:15:21.655 I get it. I totally get it. 01:15:22.590 --> 01:15:24.558 - Heart sees heart. - Oh. 01:15:25.359 --> 01:15:30.064 You know, when I came down here to spend time with Abby's... 01:15:30.097 --> 01:15:31.632 "Crazy Texan family," right? 01:15:31.665 --> 01:15:32.967 Yeah. 01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:37.038 Uh, I never thought it would be like this. 01:15:37.071 --> 01:15:38.773 People can surprise you. 01:15:38.806 --> 01:15:40.174 Yeah. 01:15:40.207 --> 01:15:41.642 Like Abilene. 01:15:41.675 --> 01:15:43.077 I mean, she was full of surprises. 01:15:43.110 --> 01:15:44.712 - Like Abilene. - Mm-hmm. 01:15:44.745 --> 01:15:48.182 Great reputation, but a huge pill-popper. 01:15:53.254 --> 01:15:55.189 What? 01:15:55.222 --> 01:15:56.724 What'd you just say? 01:15:56.757 --> 01:15:59.060 Mm. Put that in your podcast, maybe. 01:15:59.093 --> 01:16:00.361 Where'd you hear that? 01:16:00.394 --> 01:16:02.630 The girls told me. 01:16:08.135 --> 01:16:10.805 Ty told us not to say anything. 01:16:24.685 --> 01:16:26.854 Are you fucking serious? 01:16:27.755 --> 01:16:30.357 I thought you wouldn't do this with me 01:16:30.391 --> 01:16:32.093 if you knew that she was using. 01:16:32.126 --> 01:16:33.761 You think? 01:16:33.794 --> 01:16:35.038 Drugs was something Abilene did. 01:16:35.062 --> 01:16:36.297 It's not who she was. 01:16:36.330 --> 01:16:37.765 But it is how she died, 01:16:37.798 --> 01:16:39.867 which is what we were investigating. 01:16:39.900 --> 01:16:41.268 I thought there was more to this. 01:16:41.302 --> 01:16:42.779 I thought that you and I would get to know each other, 01:16:42.803 --> 01:16:44.071 and that would be cool. 01:16:44.105 --> 01:16:46.373 I... Maybe it was part of the grieving process. 01:16:46.407 --> 01:16:47.975 Denial? 01:16:48.008 --> 01:16:50.044 Isn't that one of the 12 steps of grief? 01:16:50.077 --> 01:16:52.379 It's five stages of grief, 12 steps to recovery, 01:16:52.413 --> 01:16:54.148 but I understand that everyone here 01:16:54.181 --> 01:16:55.292 is more familiar with the latter. 01:16:55.316 --> 01:16:56.650 It's complicated. 01:16:56.684 --> 01:16:58.028 It's not. It's actually very simple. 01:16:58.052 --> 01:17:01.288 Everything here is actually really simple, 01:17:01.322 --> 01:17:03.190 and maybe that's why it took me so long 01:17:03.224 --> 01:17:04.758 to understand it. 01:17:06.026 --> 01:17:07.328 Well, I was following my heart, 01:17:07.361 --> 01:17:09.130 and that's what we do around here. 01:17:09.163 --> 01:17:11.031 You follow your heart. 01:17:11.065 --> 01:17:12.633 Yeah. 01:17:13.334 --> 01:17:15.269 Well, maybe it's time to look around 01:17:15.302 --> 01:17:18.305 and ask yourselves how that's working out for you. 01:17:18.339 --> 01:17:21.742 Maybe you should try following your brain for a change. 01:17:21.775 --> 01:17:24.011 Because when you follow your heart, 01:17:24.044 --> 01:17:25.679 the Earth is flat, 01:17:25.713 --> 01:17:27.281 climate change is a hoax, 01:17:27.314 --> 01:17:30.151 vaccines contain microchips, 01:17:30.184 --> 01:17:33.754 and Mexican drug dealers killed your sister. 01:17:33.787 --> 01:17:36.891 You invent these insane fucking narratives 01:17:36.924 --> 01:17:39.160 to explain why your lives are such shit shows 01:17:39.193 --> 01:17:42.096 because the truth is too scary for you to face, 01:17:42.129 --> 01:17:44.899 which is that you did it to yourselves. 01:17:44.932 --> 01:17:47.735 Do you know what people say about you guys where I'm from? 01:17:47.768 --> 01:17:50.304 - Let me guess. Bad things. - No. Worse. 01:17:50.337 --> 01:17:52.273 We say good things. 01:17:52.306 --> 01:17:53.474 "We took them seriously 01:17:53.508 --> 01:17:54.718 when we should've taken them literally." 01:17:54.742 --> 01:17:55.876 You're neither. 01:17:55.910 --> 01:17:57.444 You're not serious people. 01:17:57.478 --> 01:17:59.780 And maybe it's time for you all 01:17:59.813 --> 01:18:01.815 to take us seriously and literally 01:18:01.849 --> 01:18:04.885 because where I'm from is fun and interesting. 01:18:04.919 --> 01:18:07.855 And the people are rich and diverse, 01:18:07.888 --> 01:18:12.793 and, meanwhile, your town looks like this! 01:18:12.826 --> 01:18:14.228 Bless your heart. 01:18:14.261 --> 01:18:15.438 Oh, and I know what that means. 01:18:15.462 --> 01:18:17.498 So you know what? Bless your heart. 01:18:17.532 --> 01:18:20.100 Bless your heart. Bless all your hearts. 01:18:20.134 --> 01:18:22.203 All your hearts can go bless themselves. 01:18:22.236 --> 01:18:24.471 Who are you to talk to us? 01:18:24.506 --> 01:18:28.175 I had to drag you to her fucking funeral! 01:18:30.477 --> 01:18:34.014 Who are you? 01:18:34.048 --> 01:18:36.083 If your car would've blown up in Brooklyn, 01:18:36.116 --> 01:18:40.955 would anyone... Anyone come to help you? 01:18:40.988 --> 01:18:43.324 First of all, I wouldn't have needed a car in Brooklyn. 01:18:43.357 --> 01:18:46.360 Second, if I had one, I doubt it would've been blown up 01:18:46.393 --> 01:18:48.862 by God knows who. 01:18:48.896 --> 01:18:50.898 I don't understand you people. 01:18:50.931 --> 01:18:52.866 "You people" is a microaggression. 01:18:52.900 --> 01:18:54.802 My apologies. Y'all. 01:18:54.835 --> 01:18:57.137 "Y'all" is a cultural appropriation. 01:18:57.171 --> 01:18:59.139 Paris... 01:18:59.173 --> 01:19:02.476 you accusing someone of cultural appropriation 01:19:02.510 --> 01:19:04.478 is cultural appropriation. 01:19:04.512 --> 01:19:07.381 Why wouldn't you look after her? 01:19:07.414 --> 01:19:09.250 Check in on her? 01:19:09.283 --> 01:19:11.785 You wouldn't do anything for her, would you? 01:19:11.819 --> 01:19:14.021 That's right. I wouldn't. 01:19:14.054 --> 01:19:16.558 I was hooking up with different people, 01:19:16.591 --> 01:19:18.993 and I assumed she was, too, 01:19:19.026 --> 01:19:22.296 because I live in the real world, 01:19:22.329 --> 01:19:25.032 and that's what everybody does. 01:19:25.065 --> 01:19:27.835 I tried to tell you this when you called. 01:19:27.868 --> 01:19:29.803 She wasn't my girlfriend. 01:19:29.837 --> 01:19:32.940 She was just a girl in my phone. 01:19:40.948 --> 01:19:43.050 Now you've been in a fight. 01:19:56.063 --> 01:19:58.065 I don't know the whole story... 01:19:59.466 --> 01:20:01.201 but life is complicated. 01:20:01.235 --> 01:20:04.204 Even around here, if you can believe that. 01:20:05.472 --> 01:20:07.341 I'll tell you what I think. 01:20:08.610 --> 01:20:12.012 I think people don't do drugs for no reason. 01:20:12.046 --> 01:20:14.315 They do drugs because they're in pain. 01:20:14.348 --> 01:20:16.183 Pain like... 01:20:16.216 --> 01:20:19.219 like maybe caring for someone who hardly knows your name. 01:20:20.622 --> 01:20:22.956 So, I don't know, Ben. 01:20:22.990 --> 01:20:25.326 But if you're still looking for someone to blame 01:20:25.359 --> 01:20:27.928 for what happened... 01:20:27.961 --> 01:20:31.231 you may not have needed to come all this way. 01:20:35.269 --> 01:20:37.204 Bless your heart. 01:21:40.167 --> 01:21:42.236 You were right, Eloise. 01:21:42.269 --> 01:21:45.005 I was the story. 01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:47.575 A self-absorbed know-it-all 01:21:47.609 --> 01:21:52.246 thinks he's gonna figure out the meaning of America, 01:21:52.279 --> 01:21:55.916 and all he learns is how empty he is. 01:21:57.752 --> 01:22:00.320 I was the one living a myth. 01:22:03.023 --> 01:22:06.193 They say you regret the things you don't do. 01:22:07.595 --> 01:22:09.963 I didn't love. 01:22:13.066 --> 01:22:15.570 I have no story. 01:22:15.603 --> 01:22:18.238 I guess that's the story. 01:22:18.272 --> 01:22:21.975 I am the story, and the story sucks. 01:22:22.009 --> 01:22:25.012 The story is nothing. 01:22:25.647 --> 01:22:28.182 I'm coming home. 01:22:32.486 --> 01:22:34.589 I'm scared. 01:22:34.622 --> 01:22:36.558 What are you scared of? 01:22:36.591 --> 01:22:38.492 Ghosts. 01:22:38.526 --> 01:22:40.394 Ghosts aren't real. 01:22:40.427 --> 01:22:44.164 If they're not real, how come everyone knows what they are? 01:22:44.198 --> 01:22:48.101 They're real as an idea, but they're not real, real. 01:22:48.135 --> 01:22:52.039 That's what's scary about ghosts, that they aren't real. 01:22:52.072 --> 01:22:53.340 If ghosts were real, 01:22:53.373 --> 01:22:55.209 they wouldn't be scary at all, right? 01:22:55.242 --> 01:22:58.680 We would just smile and say, "Hi, ghosts." 01:22:58.713 --> 01:23:00.080 Hi, ghosts. 01:23:01.482 --> 01:23:03.283 Hi, ghost. 01:23:04.251 --> 01:23:06.353 Wouldn't that be cool? 01:23:06.386 --> 01:23:08.222 If when someone wasn't there anymore, 01:23:08.255 --> 01:23:11.024 there was still a little piece of them 01:23:11.058 --> 01:23:13.628 that could surprise you sometimes? 01:23:13.661 --> 01:23:15.763 Yeah. 01:23:15.797 --> 01:23:18.766 But there's not, there's nothing. 01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:21.134 And that's what's scary about ghosts. 01:23:21.168 --> 01:23:25.507 That the little piece of someone 01:23:25.540 --> 01:23:28.510 that feels like it might still be there 01:23:28.543 --> 01:23:31.011 isn't there at all. 01:23:34.549 --> 01:23:36.250 Do you feel better? 01:23:36.283 --> 01:23:38.252 No. 01:23:38.853 --> 01:23:41.188 Me neither. 01:23:44.759 --> 01:23:46.561 Thanks for listening. 01:23:49.096 --> 01:23:52.032 I'm leaving tomorrow, Mason. 01:23:52.734 --> 01:23:54.569 I love you mucho. 01:23:54.602 --> 01:23:56.571 1-4-3-5. 01:23:56.604 --> 01:23:58.272 What? 01:23:58.305 --> 01:23:59.072 1-4-3-5. 01:23:59.106 --> 01:24:01.408 It's what Abby used to say to me. 01:24:01.441 --> 01:24:04.612 She used to say, "I love you mucho," 01:24:04.646 --> 01:24:05.813 but then she shortened it. 01:24:05.847 --> 01:24:08.081 So it was kind of like a secret code 01:24:08.115 --> 01:24:09.292 'cause that's the number of letters 01:24:09.316 --> 01:24:11.318 in "I love you mucho." 01:24:12.152 --> 01:24:14.656 1-4-3-5. 01:25:42.810 --> 01:25:45.245 Hello? 01:25:45.278 --> 01:25:46.714 This is beautiful. 01:25:46.748 --> 01:25:48.382 What is? 01:25:48.983 --> 01:25:50.551 What you just recorded. 01:25:50.585 --> 01:25:52.687 Your concluding piece. 01:25:52.720 --> 01:25:55.288 It's what we talked about from the beginning. 01:25:55.322 --> 01:25:58.158 It's disconnection, myth... 01:25:58.893 --> 01:26:02.162 Uh, stories are always personal, but... 01:26:03.564 --> 01:26:05.399 this is you. 01:26:06.333 --> 01:26:08.402 You know, it's so you. 01:26:08.435 --> 01:26:11.405 It's kind of... everyone. 01:26:11.438 --> 01:26:13.407 You didn't lock that yet, did you? 01:26:13.440 --> 01:26:14.942 No, not till the morning. 01:26:14.976 --> 01:26:16.587 It's on the server if you want to check it out. 01:26:16.611 --> 01:26:18.680 Great, great. Uh, just-just don't touch it tonight. 01:26:18.713 --> 01:26:21.314 There's, uh... It's not 100%. 01:26:21.348 --> 01:26:23.551 There's a tiny piece I'm gonna add. 01:26:23.584 --> 01:26:26.253 No, don't touch it. It's great. 01:26:26.286 --> 01:26:27.755 You're only gonna fuck it up. Don't. 01:26:29.924 --> 01:26:31.626 Where are you right now? 01:26:31.659 --> 01:26:33.661 Uh, I'm in an Uber. 01:26:34.461 --> 01:26:37.699 Well, anyway, good job. 01:26:37.732 --> 01:26:40.702 People are gonna love this. 01:26:40.735 --> 01:26:42.804 I didn't know you had it in you. 01:26:42.837 --> 01:26:44.839 Or maybe I did. 01:26:44.872 --> 01:26:46.941 Heart sees heart, right? 01:26:46.974 --> 01:26:48.609 Okay, all right. 01:26:48.643 --> 01:26:51.244 All right, just wait till the morning, okay? Okay, bye. 01:27:02.389 --> 01:27:04.726 ♪ I won't be your chosen one ♪ 01:27:04.759 --> 01:27:06.894 ♪ I'll just be your fire ♪ 01:27:06.928 --> 01:27:08.963 ♪ I won't be your favored son ♪ 01:27:08.996 --> 01:27:11.264 ♪ I'll just be what you desire ♪ 01:27:11.298 --> 01:27:13.366 ♪ I won't be your superman ♪ 01:27:13.400 --> 01:27:15.503 ♪ But I'll be your fear ♪ 01:27:15.536 --> 01:27:17.605 ♪ I won't be your promised land ♪ 01:27:17.638 --> 01:27:19.607 ♪ I'll just be the voice you hear ♪ 01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:23.343 ♪ Ooh, shot, better run and hide ♪ 01:27:23.376 --> 01:27:28.281 ♪ Ooh, shot, got an evil eye... ♪ 01:27:29.349 --> 01:27:31.485 - Don't go anywhere. - Yes, sir. 01:27:31.519 --> 01:27:36.758 ♪ 'Cause, ooh, shot, got an evil eye, yeah ♪ 01:27:45.499 --> 01:27:48.069 Look at him! 01:27:54.509 --> 01:27:57.310 Fuck yeah. Texas Tech fireworks, bitch. 01:27:57.344 --> 01:27:58.980 Red and black, baby. 01:27:59.013 --> 01:28:00.648 Are you shitting me? 01:28:00.681 --> 01:28:03.017 I told you black fireworks ain't gonna show, you jackass. 01:28:03.050 --> 01:28:04.652 I can see 'em. 01:28:04.685 --> 01:28:05.820 Oh. Hey. 01:28:05.853 --> 01:28:07.922 It's the Longhorns fan. 01:28:07.955 --> 01:28:09.924 How's your car, man? 01:28:09.957 --> 01:28:11.526 You like what we did to it? 01:28:11.559 --> 01:28:13.561 That was about football? 01:28:13.594 --> 01:28:14.929 Jesus Christ. 01:28:20.400 --> 01:28:22.069 What the fuck are you doing here? 01:28:22.103 --> 01:28:23.938 I got an invite. 01:28:23.971 --> 01:28:25.348 - Oh, you're wearing my shit. - Yeah. 01:28:25.372 --> 01:28:26.607 What the fuck? 01:28:26.641 --> 01:28:28.643 Okay, well, it's his hat, so... 01:28:30.745 --> 01:28:31.913 You better be careful. 01:28:31.946 --> 01:28:33.114 That's a loaded gun. 01:28:33.147 --> 01:28:34.582 You keep your gun loaded? 01:28:34.615 --> 01:28:36.483 You keep your phone charged? 01:28:36.517 --> 01:28:38.519 - How'd you even get here? - Mason drove me. 01:28:38.553 --> 01:28:40.555 Who in the fuck is Mason? 01:28:40.588 --> 01:28:41.956 Mason's your fucking brother. 01:28:41.989 --> 01:28:43.925 I'd watch your back. 01:28:43.958 --> 01:28:45.660 You don't have friends here. 01:28:45.693 --> 01:28:47.695 Look who it is. 01:28:48.830 --> 01:28:50.097 Look who it is. 01:28:50.131 --> 01:28:51.999 - My friend. - Look at you, bud. 01:28:52.033 --> 01:28:53.901 How you doing? 01:28:53.935 --> 01:28:55.837 How's that podcast coming? 01:28:55.870 --> 01:28:57.738 I sent it in last night. 01:28:59.073 --> 01:29:00.708 You're still here? 01:29:00.741 --> 01:29:02.710 Still here. 01:29:05.478 --> 01:29:07.949 Texas has a pull, doesn't it? 01:29:08.983 --> 01:29:10.651 Kinda gets under your skin. 01:29:10.685 --> 01:29:12.520 Hundred percent. 01:29:12.553 --> 01:29:15.089 Why don't you turn that thing on? 01:29:15.122 --> 01:29:16.924 Got a story for you. 01:29:16.958 --> 01:29:18.926 Fellas. 01:29:23.731 --> 01:29:29.103 First drug law in the United States passed in 1875. 01:29:29.136 --> 01:29:30.504 The Chinese rail workers 01:29:30.538 --> 01:29:32.472 - brought in the opium den. - Mm. 01:29:32.506 --> 01:29:36.476 And this country was so anti-immigrant 01:29:36.510 --> 01:29:39.747 that they banned the opium den. 01:29:40.548 --> 01:29:42.083 - Not the opium. - Hmm. 01:29:42.116 --> 01:29:43.618 Right? 01:29:43.651 --> 01:29:45.620 You ever hear anything more American than that? 01:29:45.653 --> 01:29:47.622 I mean, now we got an opium epidemic 01:29:47.655 --> 01:29:49.557 breaking out across the heartland 01:29:49.590 --> 01:29:52.894 with all the ceremony, majesty, glamour 01:29:52.927 --> 01:29:54.095 and fun's removed. 01:29:54.128 --> 01:29:56.429 And-and that's what people yearn for. 01:29:56.463 --> 01:29:58.766 You see what I'm saying? 01:29:59.901 --> 01:30:02.937 Do you think Gary Webb would've won a Pulitzer today? 01:30:04.538 --> 01:30:07.508 You know, I think you were smart for staying here. 01:30:07.541 --> 01:30:09.677 - Yeah? - Yeah. 01:30:09.710 --> 01:30:14.081 That story about Abilene, it's nice. 01:30:15.049 --> 01:30:18.451 I think you were meant to tell a bigger story. 01:30:18.485 --> 01:30:21.656 Ask yourself, what part of the country today 01:30:21.689 --> 01:30:24.191 is it in certain people's interest 01:30:24.225 --> 01:30:26.928 to keep devastated, demoralized, 01:30:26.961 --> 01:30:29.664 dependent and divided? 01:30:29.697 --> 01:30:31.498 You got the opioid crisis, 01:30:31.532 --> 01:30:33.901 nation in divide, civic unrest. 01:30:33.935 --> 01:30:37.505 Why are all these things happening at the same time? 01:30:37.538 --> 01:30:39.807 What do you really think is going on here? 01:30:43.678 --> 01:30:46.479 Told you I had a story for you. 01:30:55.623 --> 01:30:57.091 So what are you saying? 01:30:57.124 --> 01:30:58.526 That it all connects? 01:30:58.559 --> 01:31:01.662 That the conspiracy theories are true? 01:31:01.696 --> 01:31:03.564 What I'm saying is 01:31:03.597 --> 01:31:07.101 people can sense the truth, 01:31:07.134 --> 01:31:09.704 but they're grasping for the facts. 01:31:09.737 --> 01:31:13.607 See, a myth is just a truth without facts. 01:31:13.641 --> 01:31:15.977 That's why it comes out all abstract, gnarled, 01:31:16.010 --> 01:31:17.745 wrong. 01:31:18.546 --> 01:31:19.880 Easy to dismiss and ridicule. 01:31:19.914 --> 01:31:22.149 Nobody listens to them 01:31:22.183 --> 01:31:24.852 because they don't have the facts. 01:31:26.554 --> 01:31:28.155 But I do. 01:31:28.189 --> 01:31:29.256 And you, Ben... 01:31:29.290 --> 01:31:30.958 Yeah. 01:31:32.626 --> 01:31:35.096 The whole damn world will listen to you. 01:31:42.303 --> 01:31:44.005 Where are they going? 01:31:44.038 --> 01:31:45.873 Afterparty. 01:31:47.308 --> 01:31:48.876 The Afterparty. 01:31:48.909 --> 01:31:50.711 Tell me about that. 01:31:50.745 --> 01:31:54.015 I mean, people overdose a hundred times a day, Ben. 01:31:54.048 --> 01:31:55.649 That's a fact. 01:31:55.683 --> 01:31:57.027 But they can't do it in a place where it's gonna be 01:31:57.051 --> 01:31:59.653 a problem for people like you and I. Hmm? 01:32:01.055 --> 01:32:03.057 That's what happened to Abilene. 01:32:04.792 --> 01:32:06.327 Abilene? 01:32:06.360 --> 01:32:10.031 I mean, she died at a party like this. 01:32:11.799 --> 01:32:13.667 I thought you finished that story. 01:32:13.701 --> 01:32:15.569 Oh. 01:32:15.603 --> 01:32:17.738 This is just for us. 01:32:17.772 --> 01:32:20.341 Well, it's not a very good story anyway. 01:32:20.374 --> 01:32:22.576 Oh, she was a drug addict. 01:32:22.610 --> 01:32:24.211 She OD'd. 01:32:24.245 --> 01:32:26.947 Then she tried to call 911. 01:32:27.815 --> 01:32:30.951 Oh. In Texas, we don't call 911. 01:32:30.985 --> 01:32:32.953 Yeah, I've heard that. 01:32:33.821 --> 01:32:35.956 They record all those calls. 01:32:35.990 --> 01:32:39.126 We gotta be very careful about what gets recorded. 01:32:39.160 --> 01:32:41.062 Yeah. You do. 01:32:41.095 --> 01:32:44.031 It's all that's left of us. 01:32:44.065 --> 01:32:45.666 The recordings. 01:32:46.367 --> 01:32:49.670 And people like you and I, Abilene, 01:32:49.703 --> 01:32:54.175 everybody posting photos of every part of their day, 01:32:54.208 --> 01:32:58.012 we trade in our entire lives 01:32:58.045 --> 01:33:02.016 for the tiny pieces that get recorded of us. 01:33:04.318 --> 01:33:05.820 Abilene tried to call 911. 01:33:05.853 --> 01:33:07.688 You didn't let her. Then what? 01:33:10.424 --> 01:33:11.826 Oh, boy. 01:33:11.859 --> 01:33:13.894 Don't get distracted. 01:33:13.928 --> 01:33:16.230 You gotta admit, that's a hell of a distraction. 01:33:16.263 --> 01:33:18.999 That is... That's kind of like 01:33:19.033 --> 01:33:20.701 the very definition of distraction. 01:33:20.734 --> 01:33:23.270 - Abilene. - ♪ Abilene. ♪ 01:33:23.304 --> 01:33:26.240 - Abilene. - ♪ Abilene. ♪ 01:33:26.273 --> 01:33:28.075 What happened to Abilene? 01:33:28.876 --> 01:33:30.911 Do you believe in ghosts, Ben? 01:33:30.945 --> 01:33:33.981 I got a call from a ghost earlier. 01:33:35.349 --> 01:33:38.219 Kind of thought I'd be seeing you today. 01:33:40.688 --> 01:33:42.389 What happened to her? 01:33:42.423 --> 01:33:44.625 Why do you care so much? 01:33:46.160 --> 01:33:49.063 Why do you care so little? 01:33:51.465 --> 01:33:54.268 She overdosed. 01:33:54.301 --> 01:33:55.736 Instead of helping her, 01:33:55.769 --> 01:33:58.405 you dragged her to the Afterparty, 01:33:58.439 --> 01:33:59.816 which is a spot with no cell reception 01:33:59.840 --> 01:34:01.008 at the exact intersection 01:34:01.041 --> 01:34:04.044 of four overlapping law jurisdictions 01:34:04.078 --> 01:34:05.412 where you knew her death 01:34:05.446 --> 01:34:09.150 would just become an anonymous statistic. 01:34:09.183 --> 01:34:11.819 Hmm. 01:34:16.323 --> 01:34:18.159 It's well said. 01:34:18.192 --> 01:34:19.660 Very succinct. 01:34:22.930 --> 01:34:26.100 Yes. That's exactly what happened. 01:34:33.407 --> 01:34:36.177 Brilliant. 01:34:36.210 --> 01:34:38.112 You got it. 01:34:38.145 --> 01:34:39.747 You got it all. 01:34:39.780 --> 01:34:43.117 That's a story about America. 01:34:43.150 --> 01:34:45.920 Let me know if you need me to rerecord anything. 01:34:45.953 --> 01:34:47.788 Or, like, rephrase things. 01:34:47.821 --> 01:34:49.924 I can do that, too. 01:34:50.925 --> 01:34:51.992 What? 01:34:52.026 --> 01:34:53.227 Oh, come... 01:34:53.260 --> 01:34:54.929 You and I are gonna be sitting on a panel 01:34:54.962 --> 01:34:56.439 talking about this. I want it to be great. 01:34:56.463 --> 01:34:59.133 We both know how this works. Right? 01:34:59.166 --> 01:35:00.467 Yeah, I-I mean, at first, 01:35:00.502 --> 01:35:05.239 everyone's gonna think you got your bad guy. 01:35:07.074 --> 01:35:09.410 Nobody's gonna let it be that simple. 01:35:09.443 --> 01:35:10.887 Everyone's gonna have to have their take 01:35:10.911 --> 01:35:13.814 'cause that's how it works now. 01:35:13.847 --> 01:35:16.016 Everyone has a take. 01:35:16.050 --> 01:35:17.928 See, if you don't have a take, you don't have a voice. 01:35:17.952 --> 01:35:19.887 If you don't have a voice, you don't exist. 01:35:19.920 --> 01:35:25.025 So yeah, at first, everyone's gonna blame me. 01:35:25.059 --> 01:35:29.096 But then someone's gonna say, "Wait a second." 01:35:29.129 --> 01:35:33.767 There's a big difference between leaving somebody to die 01:35:33.801 --> 01:35:36.136 and killing somebody. 01:35:37.838 --> 01:35:39.773 Then they're gonna turn to you. 01:35:40.575 --> 01:35:43.844 What were you doing here in the first place? 01:35:43.877 --> 01:35:46.013 What was your relationship with her? 01:35:46.046 --> 01:35:50.451 Why would you exploit her grieving family? 01:35:50.484 --> 01:35:52.253 Those... 01:35:52.286 --> 01:35:53.954 Those characters. 01:35:53.988 --> 01:35:57.391 I mean... I mean, that's what they're gonna be. 01:35:57.424 --> 01:35:59.493 Famous characters. 01:35:59.527 --> 01:36:01.161 Not famous people. 01:36:01.195 --> 01:36:03.797 And then they're gonna blame the family. 01:36:03.831 --> 01:36:06.166 Oh, I hope they're ready for that. 01:36:07.901 --> 01:36:09.537 They'll blame the president. 01:36:09.571 --> 01:36:11.573 The last president. 01:36:13.240 --> 01:36:15.118 And then they'll start in with the conspiracy theories. 01:36:15.142 --> 01:36:17.545 You know, and someone will refute the conspiracy theories, 01:36:17.579 --> 01:36:23.217 and then one side will make their version like their cause. 01:36:23.250 --> 01:36:25.919 And the other side will take the other side 01:36:25.953 --> 01:36:30.024 just to take the other side and on, and on. 01:36:30.057 --> 01:36:33.561 Until your story proves 01:36:33.595 --> 01:36:37.298 the defining truth of our time. 01:36:38.600 --> 01:36:40.602 Which is what? 01:36:40.635 --> 01:36:45.607 Everything means everything. 01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:50.244 So nothing means anything. 01:36:53.981 --> 01:36:56.917 Some things mean something. 01:36:58.485 --> 01:37:00.054 Yeah? 01:37:00.087 --> 01:37:01.221 Like what? 01:37:02.222 --> 01:37:03.957 Abilene? 01:37:04.626 --> 01:37:06.460 You didn't care about her. 01:37:06.493 --> 01:37:09.129 You came here for yourself. 01:37:09.163 --> 01:37:11.999 For recording. 01:37:12.032 --> 01:37:14.935 And then you heard her music. 01:37:14.968 --> 01:37:16.236 And you saw her photos. 01:37:16.270 --> 01:37:19.006 The record of her. 01:37:19.641 --> 01:37:22.242 And that's what you care for. 01:37:23.243 --> 01:37:25.112 A recording. 01:37:26.246 --> 01:37:28.182 Not a person. 01:37:31.519 --> 01:37:34.388 We are all... 01:37:34.421 --> 01:37:37.458 just inspirations 01:37:37.491 --> 01:37:40.094 for the record of ourselves. 01:37:40.127 --> 01:37:41.629 You and I both know it. 01:37:41.663 --> 01:37:43.997 You got your opus. 01:37:44.031 --> 01:37:46.634 And that's what matters. 01:37:46.668 --> 01:37:48.469 But Abilene? 01:37:48.503 --> 01:37:50.371 The person? 01:37:51.639 --> 01:37:54.007 Come on. 01:37:54.041 --> 01:37:56.009 She was just some girl. 01:37:56.043 --> 01:37:58.613 That's the truth, Ben. 01:37:58.646 --> 01:38:00.481 Hundred percent. 01:38:06.019 --> 01:38:08.255 ♪ Drive fast ♪ 01:38:09.223 --> 01:38:11.559 ♪ I can almost taste it now ♪ 01:38:11.593 --> 01:38:13.394 ♪ L.A. ♪ 01:38:14.696 --> 01:38:16.598 ♪ I don't even have to fake it now ♪ 01:38:16.631 --> 01:38:19.333 ♪ You were like so sick ♪ 01:38:19.366 --> 01:38:20.934 ♪ Everybody said it ♪ 01:38:20.968 --> 01:38:24.138 ♪ You were way ahead of the trend, ge-get it ♪ 01:38:24.171 --> 01:38:27.341 ♪ "Elvis is the best, hell yes" ♪ 01:38:27.374 --> 01:38:31.145 ♪ "Honey, put on that party dress" ♪ 01:38:31.178 --> 01:38:34.549 ♪ Like ooh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ 01:38:34.582 --> 01:38:36.618 ♪ Ooh, ooh, oh, oh, ah ♪ 01:38:36.651 --> 01:38:38.952 ♪ You make me crazy ♪ 01:38:38.986 --> 01:38:43.056 ♪ You make me wild ♪ 01:38:43.090 --> 01:38:49.296 ♪ Just like a baby, spin me round like a child ♪ 01:38:49.329 --> 01:38:51.165 ♪ Your skin so ♪ 01:38:51.198 --> 01:38:55.703 ♪ Golden brown ♪ 01:38:55.737 --> 01:38:57.739 ♪ Be young ♪ 01:38:57.772 --> 01:39:01.543 ♪ Be dope, be proud ♪ 01:39:01.576 --> 01:39:04.178 ♪ Like an American ♪ 01:39:04.211 --> 01:39:08.215 ♪ Ooh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ 01:39:08.248 --> 01:39:10.184 ♪ Like an American ♪ 01:39:10.217 --> 01:39:14.354 ♪ Ooh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ 01:39:18.726 --> 01:39:21.563 ♪ Everybody wants to go fast ♪ 01:39:21.596 --> 01:39:24.599 ♪ But they can't compare ♪ 01:39:24.632 --> 01:39:28.202 ♪ I don't really want the rest ♪ 01:39:28.235 --> 01:39:31.238 ♪ Only you can take me there ♪ 01:39:31.271 --> 01:39:34.007 ♪ I don't even know what I'm saying ♪ 01:39:34.041 --> 01:39:41.348 ♪ But I'm praying for you... ♪ 01:39:43.551 --> 01:39:45.753 We got a report of a possible overdose. 01:39:45.787 --> 01:39:47.488 4940, Afterparty. 01:39:47.522 --> 01:39:48.790 Ambulance en route. 01:39:48.823 --> 01:39:51.626 A 911 on a Saturday night? 01:39:51.659 --> 01:39:53.427 Bullshit. 01:39:53.460 --> 01:39:54.562 People. 01:39:54.596 --> 01:39:55.730 Got a report. 01:39:55.763 --> 01:39:57.231 Quentin Sellers shot in the head. 01:39:57.264 --> 01:39:58.265 Q? 01:39:58.298 --> 01:40:00.434 I never thought of that guy as accident-prone. 01:40:00.467 --> 01:40:03.571 ♪ Let's get wild tonight, check your heart at the door ♪ 01:40:04.438 --> 01:40:07.274 ♪ That ain't what tonight is for ♪ 01:40:07.307 --> 01:40:09.511 ♪ It's an old times, good times... ♪ 01:40:11.144 --> 01:40:16.450 ♪ Gonna send you this text when I get signal ♪ 01:40:17.552 --> 01:40:22.624 ♪ I'll know just the words to say when I do... ♪ 01:40:35.168 --> 01:40:37.304 I heard that y'all made up. 01:40:38.438 --> 01:40:40.374 Yeah. 01:40:41.275 --> 01:40:45.112 And I understand that was quite a party last night. 01:40:46.748 --> 01:40:49.082 I wasn't there. 01:40:49.717 --> 01:40:51.686 That's right, you weren't. 01:40:51.719 --> 01:40:53.320 But... 01:40:53.353 --> 01:40:56.423 I heard it was a pretty good party. 01:40:59.627 --> 01:41:05.365 I've... very much enjoyed being in your home. 01:41:08.536 --> 01:41:10.705 You're gonna need a ride. 01:41:10.738 --> 01:41:11.839 That's true. 01:41:11.873 --> 01:41:15.208 My car is, uh... 01:41:16.310 --> 01:41:19.146 What are your plans when you get back? 01:41:19.179 --> 01:41:21.448 Guess I have to find a new story. 01:41:21.481 --> 01:41:23.518 After all that? 01:41:23.551 --> 01:41:26.253 What about all that stuff with Abby? 01:41:26.286 --> 01:41:29.524 I think that story's just for us. 01:41:29.557 --> 01:41:31.526 Oh. 01:41:33.761 --> 01:41:36.564 That's nice, too. 01:41:36.598 --> 01:41:38.600 No regrets. 01:41:38.633 --> 01:41:39.901 I never understood that. 01:41:39.934 --> 01:41:41.468 No regrets. 01:41:41.502 --> 01:41:44.237 I mean, how do you... 01:41:45.907 --> 01:41:49.476 In my life, everything starts with a regret, 01:41:49.510 --> 01:41:50.812 ends with a regret. 01:41:50.845 --> 01:41:53.581 In between, regrets. 01:41:53.615 --> 01:41:56.216 It's all regrets. 01:41:56.249 --> 01:41:58.385 You run as fast as you can from the last regret 01:41:58.418 --> 01:41:59.854 and, of course, you're just running 01:41:59.887 --> 01:42:01.789 straight into the next one. 01:42:01.823 --> 01:42:03.758 That's life. 01:42:03.791 --> 01:42:05.225 It's all regrets. 01:42:05.258 --> 01:42:07.662 That's what they should say. 01:42:07.695 --> 01:42:09.564 No other way to be alive. 01:42:10.865 --> 01:42:13.200 It's all regrets. 01:42:14.234 --> 01:42:16.169 Make 'em count. 01:42:17.305 --> 01:43:17.358 Do you want subtitles for any video? 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