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Hey, one, two, three.
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♪ Now, red Solo cup is
the best receptacle ♪
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♪ For barbecues, tailgates,
fairs and festivals ♪
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♪ And you, sir, do not
have a pair of testicles ♪
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♪ If you prefer drinking
from glass, whoo ♪
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- ♪ Red Solo cup ♪
- ♪ Uh-huh ♪
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♪ I fill you up ♪
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♪ Let's have a party ♪
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♪ Let's have a party ♪
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♪ I love you, red Solo cup ♪
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♪ I lift you up ♪
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♪ Proceed to party,
proceed to party ♪
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♪ Now, I really love how
you're easy to stack ♪
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♪ But I really hate how
you're easy to crack ♪
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♪ 'Cause when beer runs
down the front of my back ♪
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♪ Well, that, my
friends, is quite yucky ♪
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♪ But I have to admit that
the ladies get smitten ♪
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♪ Admiring how sharply ♪
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♪ My first name is written ♪
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♪ On you with a Sharpie
when I get to hitting ♪
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♪ On them to help me get lucky ♪
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♪ Red Solo cup ♪
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♪ I fill you up ♪
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♪ Let's have a party ♪
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♪ Proceed to party ♪
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- ♪ Solo cup ♪
- ♪ Bah, oh, doo ♪
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- ♪ Solo cup ♪
- ♪ Oh, bo, doo ♪
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- ♪ Solo cup ♪
- ♪ Ah, oh, doo ♪
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- ♪ Solo cup ♪
- ♪ Ah, ooh, doodle, da, doo ♪
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- ♪ Solo cup ♪
- ♪ Uh-huh, mm ♪
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- ♪ Solo cup ♪
- ♪ De, dum, dum ♪
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- ♪ Solo cup ♪
- ♪ Ooh, de, da, bah. ♪
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The potential in this
room is astounding.
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I love the potential.
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Hundred percent.
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It's a world of
infinite possibilities.
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- Infinite.
- Hundred percent.
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How many "Y"s do I put in
"Hey" at this time of night?
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- Is it before 2:00 a.m.?
- Yeah.
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- Two "Y" s.
- Okay.
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- Three is thirsty.
- Thirsty.
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And one is curt.
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You know what I
was thinking about?
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Cookie dough became so popular.
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It's 'cause it's not finished.
It could still be anything.
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Hundred percent.
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Making cookies out of cookie
dough is just a suggestion.
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- Hundred percent.
- That's what they say
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- you could do with it.
- Right.
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And the same thing...
Like dating someone
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for more than a month.
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It's just a serving suggestion.
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Hundred percent.
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"Kara question mark." That
means I don't remember
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- where I met her.
- Okay.
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But it's a question mark
with an exclamation point,
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which means I should
want to follow up.
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-Let's see what the options are first though.
-Yes.
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Exactly that. That's the
world that we're living in.
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You can just see what the
options are for anything.
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Like with travel.
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You're not gonna just pick
the first flight you see.
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You want to see all the flights.
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- That's a good thing.
- Yeah.
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You get the best
flight that way.
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Why wouldn't you
get the best person
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by looking at all
the potential people?
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And how could you even
expect to find one person
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who could fulfill
all of your needs?
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It's easier just to find the
most supportive person here.
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- The funniest person here.
- Right.
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- The best sex here.
- Right.
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The best advice here.
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The second-best sex here.
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Hundred percent.
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I don't ever want to go past
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knowing what someone's
parents do for a living.
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If I know what someone's
parents do for a living...
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- Right. Right.
- I've hung too long.
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Or, like, siblings. Like,
why does anyone want to know
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about your siblings?
Especially so early.
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-Yeah.
-"How many siblings do you have?"
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Has that ever changed whether
you want to date somebody?
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It's like, "I have two
sisters and a brother."
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- Whoa. Hold on.
- Well, I'm out of here.
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- I'm out of here.
- You know what I just say?
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I only date only children
or the oldest of three.
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They say, "Exercise
your options."
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It's like a muscle.
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- Options are like a muscle.
- Yeah.
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Some people are
weak and atrophied,
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and they don't understand
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- how to exercise their options.
- Yeah.
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My options are burly
and strong and turgid.
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Hundred percent.
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People say guys like us
are afraid of commitment.
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No. We're afraid of commitment
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to something we
can't get out of.
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There's no such thing
as fear of commitment.
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Fear of commitment
is fear of regret.
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Hundred percent. Or
fear of intimacy.
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Please, I'm intimate
with everybody.
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Do you ever wonder,
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if you did find something
deeper with somebody,
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if that would somehow
be more meaningful?
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I do sometimes.
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Like right now, I'm
casually dating,
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like, six or seven
different women.
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But I do wonder, deep
down, what it would be like
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to seriously date two or three.
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Even when I don't
understand you,
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I understand you better
than I understand anybody.
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- Hundred percent.
- I love when we hang out.
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This is like, if someone
were recording this,
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that's what my
podcast should be.
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There should be, like, the
sound of a stand-up bass
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playing under me right now.
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Okay, I got one.
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"Brunette Random House Party."
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"Random House," the publisher?
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Or "random house," like
a random house party?
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Oh, "Emily Vogue."
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Uh, I'm gonna go with
"Kara question mark"
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'cause I feel like letting the
universe surprise me tonight.
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- What a time to be alive.
- Hundred percent.
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- Hundred percent.
- Hundred percent.
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Hundred percent.
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- Hundred percent.
- Hundred percent.
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I figured it out.
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Figured what out?
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America.
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Okay.
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I know you're laughing,
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but I have a pitch
you're really gonna like.
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America is divided,
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but it's not for the
reason that we think.
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We think that America's
divided by geography:
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red state, blue
state, city, country.
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We're missing something
far more profound.
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America isn't divided by space.
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America is divided by time.
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-We don't live in the moment anymore.
-Mm.
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And why would we, when
we can live in any moment
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that's ever been recorded?
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And when we experience
something we really love,
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our overwhelming instinct
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is to somehow file
it away for later.
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That's interesting.
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We don't watch movies
in the theater.
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We don't watch TV when it airs.
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We don't even have
conversations at the same time
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because we text.
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And when you text,
I can say, "Hi,"
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and you could say
"Hi" back in a second,
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- or a minute.
- Or never.
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Or never 'cause it's you
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and you're too busy producing
the biggest podcast in America,
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which is kind of my point
because we're all living
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in our own individualized times.
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That's why we're living
in divided times.
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That's... I like that. Ooh.
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- You like that?
- Yeah.
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So, what do you think? Do
you think that's a story?
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It's a theory.
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- A theory is a story.
- No, a theory is not a story.
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Yes, it is when
it's about an idea.
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And America is an idea.
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That's what makes it so great.
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- So, if you're...
- No, America is its people.
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That's what makes
it so fucked up.
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Hey. Not every white
guy in New York
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needs to have a podcast.
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You have the
verified check mark.
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You got the New Yorker position.
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I want something more.
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I don't just want
to be a writer.
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I... I want to be a voice.
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As dorky as it sounds,
I care about America.
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And not in that faded
Lana Del Rey way.
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And now I see it falling apart,
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and we're just
standing in the corner,
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like, making fun
of it, you know?
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I'd like to try to tell
some story that... connects.
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Okay, okay. Well, then...
let me help you connect.
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With all your ideas
about America...
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Even if they're good, right?
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You gotta put 'em in a story
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'cause Americans
listen to stories.
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'Cause Americans are people.
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They're not... ideas.
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- You're-you're here.
- Yeah.
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You need to be here.
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Does that make sense?
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Hundred percent.
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I'm Robin Dillon,
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and this is American Moment.
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To the organizers of the
Western Montana fly-fishing...
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- Hi.
- Hey.
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You changed your hair.
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- Yeah, you noticed.
- Of course.
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How's the book world?
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The what?
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Uh, nothing. Uh, can
I get you a drink?
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- Yes.
- Great.
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Um, what can I make you?
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Um, can you do,
like, a white wine?
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Um, sure.
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I have to open a
bottle for that.
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Oh, that's okay. Open it.
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I only want, like, one glass.
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- Hello?
- Ben?
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Yeah. Hello?
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This is the worst phone call
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you're ever gonna
get in your life.
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Oh, my God.
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Your girlfriend's dead.
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I'm sorry. Wh...
What did you say?
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She's dead.
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No, no, the first part.
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Your girlfriend.
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Yeah, I'm sorry.
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Hey, I don't... I
don't understand.
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I know. I know, I know.
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We can't make no
sense of it either.
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Who is this?
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This is Ty Shaw.
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Abby's brother.
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Um, hey, I don't... I don't
really know what to say.
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Oh, I know, I know this
must be so hard to process.
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I'm so sorry.
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Abby told us so much about you.
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Abby.
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Oh, my God.
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Abby.
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Who's Abby?
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Uh, some girl. Um...
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- Who's that?
- Uh, some...
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We definitely hung
out a few times.
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I-I wouldn't have...
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Funeral's Sunday.
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Oh, my God. I'm, uh...
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Can you tell me where
I can send flowers?
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Oh, there's no need
to send flowers, Ben.
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Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
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I'm absolutely
gonna send flowers.
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Just, uh, you tell
me the address.
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See if you can text it to me.
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If you really want, there's
a flower shop by the airport.
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We'll just swing by
there when I pick you up.
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When you pick me up?
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Uh, hey.
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I will be there in spirit.
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Spirit Airlines. Right, man.
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That's a great choice.
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You just let me
know what flight.
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Uh, hey, uh, I...
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This is just...
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I can't do this.
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None of us can do this.
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Not alone.
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Y'all had your whole
future ahead of you.
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Okay.
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Okay, don't cry.
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I mean, no, cry. Cry.
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- Um, of course.
- Oh, God.
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Be in touch with
your emotions. Um...
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I can't believe we have
to go through this.
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Okay. All right. Um, hey.
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Remind me where you
guys are exactly.
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Well, you've been
to Texas before?
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Texas.
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Okay, are you near Austin?
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No, we're not near Austin.
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- Dallas?
- Dallas ain't Texas.
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- Houston?
- Houston's another country.
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Why don't you just
tell me where...
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Have you heard of
Abilene? The city.
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Never heard of Abilene, no.
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Well, Abilene is about
three hours from Dallas.
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Okay.
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And we're five
hours from Abilene.
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Ladies and gentlemen...
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Hey. Hi.
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And while she could
be quite a handful
00:12:16.904 --> 00:12:18.906
when she was a girl...
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I can't believe I'm
talking about my daughter
00:12:24.278 --> 00:12:26.313
in the past tense.
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She was living in New York.
00:12:34.522 --> 00:12:37.391
She was finding
her voice in music.
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And she finally found love.
00:12:41.563 --> 00:12:43.565
Ben Manalowitz.
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A successful writer
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and a regular contributor
to New York Magazine.
00:12:47.034 --> 00:12:49.003
The New Yorker.
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But even with all his success,
00:12:50.971 --> 00:12:54.041
he always respected our
girl for who she was.
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"Mama," she said,
00:12:56.210 --> 00:12:59.113
"you know how he has
me saved in his phone?
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Texas."
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Well, as short as her life was,
00:13:03.917 --> 00:13:05.486
she found her voice,
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and she found love.
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And that's all there is, right?
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That's right.
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Let's hear from Ben.
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- Go ahead.
- Go on, Ben.
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No, I couldn't.
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- Thank you.
- You got it.
00:13:32.614 --> 00:13:34.315
- Brother, come up.
- Please say something.
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Get up there.
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Father. Sir.
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I never expected to be
in a situation like this.
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I'm sure none of us did.
00:14:00.374 --> 00:14:03.344
I wish I had known her better.
00:14:04.244 --> 00:14:07.081
I wish I had spent
more time with her.
00:14:07.948 --> 00:14:11.251
I'm sure all of us feel that...
00:14:11.285 --> 00:14:13.020
right now.
00:14:13.053 --> 00:14:14.288
Yes.
00:14:18.292 --> 00:14:20.060
She loved music.
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I know that. I know that.
00:14:24.264 --> 00:14:25.999
She loved music.
00:14:26.033 --> 00:14:28.202
Yeah.
00:14:31.138 --> 00:14:33.941
And...
00:14:35.677 --> 00:14:38.613
she will always be a
song in our hearts.
00:14:52.560 --> 00:14:53.994
"Song in our hearts."
00:14:54.027 --> 00:14:56.598
Phew. You damn near
broke me with that one.
00:14:56.631 --> 00:14:58.432
♪ It's those
eight-second chances ♪
00:14:58.465 --> 00:15:00.267
♪ And cowgirl glances ♪
00:15:00.300 --> 00:15:04.672
♪ It's the blood and the glory,
baby, that's why we ride... ♪
00:15:07.307 --> 00:15:09.143
Now, I don't know
about you, but...
00:15:09.176 --> 00:15:11.087
I know it hasn't been long,
but I feel like me and you,
00:15:11.111 --> 00:15:13.280
we got a real bond.
00:15:13.313 --> 00:15:14.549
Kind of like family.
00:15:14.582 --> 00:15:16.417
Hundred percent.
00:15:18.218 --> 00:15:19.486
Wow.
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A hundred percent?
00:15:22.289 --> 00:15:23.223
Yeah.
00:15:23.257 --> 00:15:25.560
Yeah. I felt really
close to you guys today.
00:15:25.593 --> 00:15:28.128
Don't just say that to say it.
00:15:28.763 --> 00:15:31.198
- Yeah.
- I knew it.
00:15:39.473 --> 00:15:41.308
Abilene just didn't die.
00:15:41.341 --> 00:15:43.143
She was murdered.
00:15:43.177 --> 00:15:46.079
And the two of us are
gonna avenge her death.
00:15:47.414 --> 00:15:48.750
What?
00:15:48.783 --> 00:15:51.586
You and me, we're gonna
track her killer down
00:15:51.619 --> 00:15:53.454
and deliver vengeance.
00:15:55.255 --> 00:15:58.025
Okay, nobody said
anything about a killer.
00:15:58.058 --> 00:16:00.528
An overdose?
00:16:00.562 --> 00:16:02.229
At a party in an oil field?
00:16:02.262 --> 00:16:05.065
Yeah. The girl never took so
much as an Advil in her life.
00:16:05.098 --> 00:16:07.502
You know that. You know
her better than anybody.
00:16:09.203 --> 00:16:10.705
Did you call the
police about this?
00:16:10.738 --> 00:16:14.107
In Texas, we don't dial 911.
00:16:14.776 --> 00:16:16.109
Not even for, like, a fire?
00:16:16.143 --> 00:16:17.712
Fire or ambulance, fine.
00:16:17.745 --> 00:16:19.681
Who do you think did it?
00:16:19.714 --> 00:16:21.181
I got a couple theories.
00:16:21.215 --> 00:16:24.218
Cartels. Mexican gangbanger
I got my eyes on.
00:16:24.251 --> 00:16:25.787
I mean, this is
just the beginning.
00:16:25.820 --> 00:16:27.154
It goes deep.
00:16:27.187 --> 00:16:29.524
And what's this based on?
00:16:29.557 --> 00:16:30.692
Gut.
00:16:30.725 --> 00:16:33.360
Right. What's
behind that though?
00:16:34.194 --> 00:16:35.630
Ain't nothing behind gut.
00:16:35.663 --> 00:16:38.232
Gut's behind everything
else. Otherwise, who are you?
00:16:38.265 --> 00:16:40.200
I really think this is
something for the police.
00:16:40.234 --> 00:16:42.269
Yeah. You talk about the police
00:16:42.302 --> 00:16:44.171
like it's just the
same everywhere.
00:16:44.204 --> 00:16:47.107
Like the police
is, um, McDonald's
00:16:47.140 --> 00:16:48.810
and justice is an Egg McMuffin.
00:16:48.843 --> 00:16:50.612
We don't have the police.
00:16:50.645 --> 00:16:52.379
We got Mike and Dan.
00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:58.085
You and me, we were
the men in her life.
00:16:58.786 --> 00:17:01.255
And they fucked with
the wrong two guys.
00:17:02.155 --> 00:17:04.458
Okay. Um...
00:17:04.491 --> 00:17:08.530
So, as, like, a
personal boundary,
00:17:08.563 --> 00:17:10.130
like, everybody's different.
00:17:10.163 --> 00:17:11.666
Some people don't
eat certain foods.
00:17:11.699 --> 00:17:14.234
You know, everybody...
00:17:14.268 --> 00:17:17.437
- I don't avenge deaths.
- Mm-hmm.
00:17:17.471 --> 00:17:19.406
It's just who I am.
00:17:19.439 --> 00:17:22.644
I... You know, I don't live
in a Liam Neeson movie.
00:17:23.645 --> 00:17:26.280
But you kind of look like a guy
from a Liam Neeson movie though.
00:17:26.313 --> 00:17:27.549
Okay.
00:17:27.582 --> 00:17:29.216
Which one am I thinking about?
00:17:29.249 --> 00:17:30.718
It-it was a train.
No, i-it was...
00:17:30.752 --> 00:17:32.152
- It was just on TV.
- I don't know.
00:17:32.185 --> 00:17:34.187
Schindler's List. Oh, my God.
00:17:34.221 --> 00:17:37.291
You look like a lot of
those guys in that movie.
00:17:37.324 --> 00:17:39.527
Yeah. Thanks.
00:17:39.561 --> 00:17:42.095
You know, that was my least
favorite Liam Neeson movie.
00:17:42.129 --> 00:17:43.665
Huge downer.
00:17:43.698 --> 00:17:45.465
It was a really sad movie.
00:17:45.499 --> 00:17:47.669
Ty, I know that you're
in a lot of pain.
00:17:47.702 --> 00:17:49.169
Oh, yes, sir. We both are.
00:17:49.202 --> 00:17:50.572
And you have a lot of anger.
00:17:50.605 --> 00:17:53.541
Goddamn it, I'm asking
you for your help.
00:17:53.575 --> 00:17:56.443
If we don't do this, it's
like leaving her body
00:17:56.476 --> 00:18:00.080
out in the middle of that desert
for the rest of our lives.
00:18:01.281 --> 00:18:04.184
I know it the minute I saw you.
00:18:04.217 --> 00:18:07.254
'Cause heart sees heart.
00:18:08.221 --> 00:18:11.224
Stay down here and avenge
Abby's death with me.
00:18:12.760 --> 00:18:15.630
Oh, what a story that would be.
00:18:24.672 --> 00:18:26.239
Is this a pocket dial?
00:18:26.273 --> 00:18:27.341
I have a story.
00:18:27.374 --> 00:18:28.743
- Can it wait?
- No.
00:18:28.776 --> 00:18:30.654
I'm in Texas. I'm on my
way back from a funeral.
00:18:30.678 --> 00:18:32.312
Oh, my God. I'm so sorry.
00:18:32.346 --> 00:18:35.115
It's okay. It's not
someone I was close to.
00:18:35.717 --> 00:18:37.719
But you flew to Texas for it?
00:18:37.752 --> 00:18:39.353
Uh, yes.
00:18:39.386 --> 00:18:41.689
Uh, it was a girl I hooked
up with a few times.
00:18:41.723 --> 00:18:43.390
You flew to Texas
00:18:43.423 --> 00:18:45.727
to attend the funeral
of a random hookup?
00:18:45.760 --> 00:18:48.630
Her family thought that we
were more serious than I did.
00:18:48.663 --> 00:18:49.797
Do you know what?
00:18:49.831 --> 00:18:51.498
This is a story.
00:18:51.532 --> 00:18:53.467
- Yeah?
- Yeah.
00:18:53.501 --> 00:18:54.301
It's you.
00:18:54.334 --> 00:18:56.336
The-the... Your
whole way of life.
00:18:56.370 --> 00:18:58.372
It's dating, it's
hookup culture.
00:18:58.405 --> 00:19:00.742
How it enables disconnectedness.
00:19:00.775 --> 00:19:02.644
- The selfishness.
- No.
00:19:02.677 --> 00:19:03.911
- The emptiness.
- No.
00:19:03.945 --> 00:19:04.912
- The hollowness.
- That's not what I meant.
00:19:04.946 --> 00:19:06.279
The lack of self-awareness.
00:19:06.313 --> 00:19:07.491
Okay, that's not
what I'm pitching.
00:19:07.515 --> 00:19:08.726
It's really how
sad your life is.
00:19:08.750 --> 00:19:09.960
Okay, now you're
fucking with me.
00:19:09.984 --> 00:19:12.920
Listen, I'm in West Texas
00:19:12.954 --> 00:19:14.565
where this family just
lost their daughter
00:19:14.589 --> 00:19:15.690
to an opioid overdose.
00:19:15.723 --> 00:19:17.525
That is sad but common.
00:19:17.558 --> 00:19:21.261
Except, her brother won't
accept it's an overdose.
00:19:21.294 --> 00:19:22.530
He says it was a murder.
00:19:22.563 --> 00:19:23.865
Based on what?
00:19:23.898 --> 00:19:25.566
Nothing.
00:19:25.600 --> 00:19:26.934
And that's the story.
00:19:26.968 --> 00:19:29.302
This is an existential
crime story.
00:19:29.336 --> 00:19:32.339
This is In Cold Blood,
but there are no killers.
00:19:32.372 --> 00:19:34.341
This is about a new
American reality
00:19:34.374 --> 00:19:35.810
that people can't accept.
00:19:35.843 --> 00:19:38.680
So instead, they invent
these myths and conspiracies
00:19:38.713 --> 00:19:42.684
so they can cast themselves
as heroes because...
00:19:42.717 --> 00:19:44.952
the truth is too hard to accept.
00:19:44.986 --> 00:19:48.956
The death of Abilene is about
the death of American identity
00:19:48.990 --> 00:19:50.534
and the need to find
someone to blame for it.
00:19:50.558 --> 00:19:54.461
This isn't just a
story about vengeance.
00:19:54.494 --> 00:19:57.330
It's a story about the
need for vengeance.
00:19:57.364 --> 00:20:01.602
The meaning of vengeance.
00:20:05.272 --> 00:20:06.808
Dead white girl?
00:20:06.841 --> 00:20:08.710
Holy grail of podcasts.
00:20:08.743 --> 00:20:12.479
Eloise, I wish my
recorder were already on.
00:20:12.513 --> 00:20:13.957
He's saying such
crazy things already.
00:20:13.981 --> 00:20:16.249
Her brother?
00:20:17.417 --> 00:20:19.486
He is such a character.
00:20:19.520 --> 00:20:21.421
And you can get
close to the family?
00:20:21.455 --> 00:20:23.490
Can I get close to the family?
00:20:23.524 --> 00:20:25.727
They think I was her boyfriend.
00:20:25.760 --> 00:20:28.428
I mean...
00:20:29.429 --> 00:20:31.666
I went to her funeral,
for God's sake.
00:20:31.699 --> 00:20:32.900
That's good.
00:20:32.934 --> 00:20:34.836
I mean, it's fucked up, but...
00:20:34.869 --> 00:20:36.571
but it's good for this.
00:20:36.604 --> 00:20:38.506
So?
00:20:40.373 --> 00:20:41.709
Okay, let's give it a shot.
00:20:42.643 --> 00:20:44.645
Oh!
00:20:44.679 --> 00:20:45.989
Okay, talk to me.
Give me everything.
00:20:46.013 --> 00:20:47.447
Stay with the family,
00:20:47.481 --> 00:20:49.550
get as close as possible,
record everything.
00:20:49.584 --> 00:20:51.327
'Cause you never know
what will be important.
00:20:51.351 --> 00:20:53.487
I'll be your editor,
so I'll pull selects
00:20:53.521 --> 00:20:54.822
- and see what's there.
- Okay.
00:20:54.856 --> 00:20:56.691
I'll have Tracy overnight
you the equipment,
00:20:56.724 --> 00:20:58.893
but just use your
phone in the meantime
00:20:58.926 --> 00:21:00.995
and get the story, stay safe.
00:21:01.028 --> 00:21:02.429
You got it.
00:21:02.462 --> 00:21:04.297
- Not in that order.
- In that order.
00:21:13.508 --> 00:21:18.378
The dust in West Texas
settles like rain on a lake.
00:21:18.411 --> 00:21:21.716
I'm under a West Texas
sky, bright blue Texan sky,
00:21:21.749 --> 00:21:26.053
where I've just learned about
the death of Abilene Shaw.
00:21:26.087 --> 00:21:28.689
My...
00:21:28.723 --> 00:21:30.758
A person...
00:21:31.893 --> 00:21:33.861
who lived here.
00:21:42.103 --> 00:21:44.605
Hell yeah, brother.
00:21:44.639 --> 00:21:46.941
All right.
00:21:46.974 --> 00:21:49.409
I'm gonna stay with you
guys for a couple of weeks.
00:21:49.442 --> 00:21:50.978
I'm gonna record everything
00:21:51.012 --> 00:21:52.547
that you think
happened to Abilene.
00:21:52.580 --> 00:21:54.582
- Okay?
- Hell yes. Then we kill him.
00:21:54.615 --> 00:21:55.550
No.
00:21:55.583 --> 00:21:58.451
I'm gonna put it on a podcast...
00:21:59.386 --> 00:22:04.959
and it will be on
podcast platforms.
00:22:04.992 --> 00:22:06.894
That's fucking brilliant.
00:22:06.928 --> 00:22:08.996
- Yeah.
- You're fucking smart.
00:22:09.030 --> 00:22:10.463
All right.
00:22:10.497 --> 00:22:11.899
Once people on
Reddit find out...
00:22:13.400 --> 00:22:14.802
they'll kill him for us.
00:22:23.878 --> 00:22:26.346
All right.
00:22:38.458 --> 00:22:39.594
Hey, Mama.
00:22:39.627 --> 00:22:41.494
Guess who came back after all.
00:22:42.163 --> 00:22:43.531
Ben.
00:22:43.564 --> 00:22:45.099
- Hi.
- Oh, my God. You came back.
00:22:45.132 --> 00:22:46.934
Ah... Oh. Thank you.
00:22:46.968 --> 00:22:49.937
Um, I hope I'm not imposing.
00:22:49.971 --> 00:22:51.438
Please.
00:22:51.471 --> 00:22:52.850
We have this empty
seat at the table.
00:22:52.874 --> 00:22:55.676
We can use all the
distraction we can get.
00:22:56.510 --> 00:22:58.145
Can I get you anything?
00:22:58.179 --> 00:22:59.647
Um...
00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:02.415
Uh, just, uh, what's
the Wi-Fi situation?
00:23:02.449 --> 00:23:03.894
Oh, it's a little
temperamental... it'll kick in.
00:23:03.918 --> 00:23:06.120
Did you have a chance to
meet everybody before?
00:23:06.153 --> 00:23:07.487
Uh, no.
00:23:07.521 --> 00:23:08.789
I would love to.
00:23:08.823 --> 00:23:10.591
-Uh, this is Abilene's sister, Paris.
-Hi.
00:23:10.625 --> 00:23:12.760
- She's 24, fixin' to be 25.
- Yep.
00:23:12.793 --> 00:23:14.494
She's gonna be a
famous filmmaker.
00:23:14.528 --> 00:23:16.831
It is a pleasure
to meet you, Paris.
00:23:16.864 --> 00:23:18.799
Pleasure. I've heard
so much about you.
00:23:18.833 --> 00:23:21.434
I've-I've heard... Yeah.
00:23:21.468 --> 00:23:22.637
And this is Kansas City.
00:23:22.670 --> 00:23:24.572
She's 17, fixin' to be 18.
00:23:24.605 --> 00:23:26.774
And she's gonna be a famous...
00:23:26.807 --> 00:23:27.975
Just famous.
00:23:28.009 --> 00:23:29.476
KC, I told you.
00:23:29.510 --> 00:23:31.478
Those are not our values.
00:23:31.512 --> 00:23:34.115
You have to be a
famous something.
00:23:34.148 --> 00:23:36.984
A famous...
00:23:37.018 --> 00:23:38.619
celebrity.
00:23:39.954 --> 00:23:41.164
These are really your daughters?
00:23:41.188 --> 00:23:43.190
I mean, you all
could be sisters.
00:23:43.224 --> 00:23:44.659
Oh. You are so sweet.
00:23:44.692 --> 00:23:46.212
You think that I look
this fucking old?
00:23:47.228 --> 00:23:49.462
And this is El Stupido.
00:23:49.496 --> 00:23:51.599
- Sorry?
- This is El Stupido.
00:23:52.233 --> 00:23:54.068
That's what you call him?
00:23:54.101 --> 00:23:55.236
Oh. It's okay, Ben.
00:23:55.269 --> 00:23:57.004
He don't speak Spanish.
00:23:59.607 --> 00:24:02.810
And, uh, and how old are you?
00:24:02.843 --> 00:24:04.779
Nine.
00:24:04.812 --> 00:24:06.847
Fixin' to be ten?
00:24:11.085 --> 00:24:12.485
Yes, sir.
00:24:12.520 --> 00:24:13.788
Boys, come on.
00:24:13.821 --> 00:24:15.232
- Ben, come take a seat.
- Thank you.
00:24:15.256 --> 00:24:16.691
You have a lovely
home, by the way.
00:24:16.724 --> 00:24:18.259
- Thank you.
- It's really nice.
00:24:18.292 --> 00:24:19.560
- This is Granny Carole.
- Yeah.
00:24:19.593 --> 00:24:20.761
Granny for short.
00:24:20.795 --> 00:24:23.164
- Um, nice to meet you, Granny.
- Yeah.
00:24:23.197 --> 00:24:25.700
Thank you. Um...
00:24:25.733 --> 00:24:28.202
So, Ben, tell us about yourself.
00:24:28.235 --> 00:24:30.071
Do you come from a close family?
00:24:30.104 --> 00:24:31.973
Yes. Um, we're very close.
00:24:32.006 --> 00:24:35.475
We don't see each other
much, but we're very close.
00:24:36.177 --> 00:24:38.179
You from Texas?
00:24:38.212 --> 00:24:40.147
Oh. No, I'm not.
00:24:40.181 --> 00:24:41.248
Oh, I'm sorry.
00:24:41.282 --> 00:24:42.950
That you're not from Texas.
00:24:44.685 --> 00:24:46.663
-Have you been to Texas before, Ben?
-Yes, actually.
00:24:46.687 --> 00:24:48.189
I've been to Austin,
uh, for South By.
00:24:48.222 --> 00:24:49.790
For what?
00:24:49.824 --> 00:24:51.859
Uh, oh, South by Southwest
is an annual festiv...
00:24:51.892 --> 00:24:53.227
No, for what band?
00:24:53.260 --> 00:24:55.062
You don't just go to South By.
00:24:55.096 --> 00:24:57.031
You go see a band, don't you?
00:24:58.032 --> 00:24:59.233
Uh, well, true.
00:24:59.266 --> 00:25:01.135
I was part of a journalism panel
00:25:01.168 --> 00:25:02.703
about the future of new media.
00:25:02.737 --> 00:25:04.271
- Amazing.
- That's so cool.
00:25:04.305 --> 00:25:05.906
- Mm. -Thank you.
- You're welcome.
00:25:05.940 --> 00:25:07.875
Um, speaking of.
00:25:07.908 --> 00:25:10.277
Would you mind if I
recorded this dinner?
00:25:10.311 --> 00:25:11.645
- Oh.
- Record us now?
00:25:11.679 --> 00:25:12.279
- Yeah.
- Hell yeah.
00:25:12.313 --> 00:25:13.881
Would we mind?
00:25:13.914 --> 00:25:15.192
- I love being recorded.
- Great. Fantastic.
00:25:15.216 --> 00:25:16.283
Oh, my God.
00:25:16.317 --> 00:25:17.785
- Hey, smile. Okay?
- Great.
00:25:17.818 --> 00:25:19.120
Well, would you want to hear
00:25:19.153 --> 00:25:21.155
the story of Texas?
00:25:21.188 --> 00:25:23.157
- Absolutely. -Huh?
- Go, Granny.
00:25:23.190 --> 00:25:24.859
All right. Right here.
00:25:24.892 --> 00:25:26.660
- My goodness.
- Mm. Okay.
00:25:27.328 --> 00:25:28.662
1836.
00:25:28.696 --> 00:25:30.097
Texas is part of Mexico,
00:25:30.131 --> 00:25:33.300
made up of settlers and
English-speaking white folk.
00:25:33.334 --> 00:25:35.169
And, uh, they didn't
like the government.
00:25:35.202 --> 00:25:36.737
What else is new?
00:25:36.771 --> 00:25:38.315
Them Texans wanted to
do things their own way.
00:25:38.339 --> 00:25:39.807
What else is new?
00:25:39.840 --> 00:25:43.177
So, you take everybody's
two favorite things,
00:25:43.210 --> 00:25:46.147
government and Mexicans.
00:25:46.180 --> 00:25:48.049
And guess what happens.
00:25:48.082 --> 00:25:49.316
- Huh?
- Go on.
00:25:49.350 --> 00:25:50.627
- Guess.
- You should... In your words.
00:25:50.651 --> 00:25:51.786
All right. All right.
00:25:51.819 --> 00:25:54.188
Well, Generalissimo Santa Anna
00:25:54.221 --> 00:25:57.291
brung up 7,000 Mexican soldiers
00:25:57.324 --> 00:26:00.361
to fight against
186 Texan rebels
00:26:00.394 --> 00:26:02.930
at a place called the Alamo.
00:26:02.963 --> 00:26:04.765
And the Texans won.
00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:06.667
That's very inspiring.
00:26:06.700 --> 00:26:08.135
Say what?
00:26:09.837 --> 00:26:11.972
The Texans didn't win, Ben.
00:26:12.006 --> 00:26:13.641
Mm.
00:26:13.674 --> 00:26:16.177
They teach math where you from?
00:26:16.210 --> 00:26:19.346
186.7,000.
00:26:19.380 --> 00:26:21.215
Um...
00:26:21.248 --> 00:26:23.684
7,000 is more, Ben.
00:26:23.717 --> 00:26:26.555
It was a massacre.
00:26:27.221 --> 00:26:29.623
It was unspeakable cruelty.
00:26:29.657 --> 00:26:31.125
Unspeakable cruelty.
00:26:31.158 --> 00:26:34.295
I'm sorry. I had no idea
you didn't win the Alamo.
00:26:34.328 --> 00:26:36.697
Um...
00:26:36.730 --> 00:26:38.833
I feel like you guys
talk about it a lot.
00:26:38.866 --> 00:26:41.268
Who's "Equinox Girl Cute"?
00:26:41.302 --> 00:26:42.970
Um, a friend.
00:26:43.003 --> 00:26:45.106
Who's "Paris Review
Party Asian"?
00:26:45.139 --> 00:26:46.941
- Excuse me. Um...
- Very good reading.
00:26:46.974 --> 00:26:49.376
Let me, uh... The Wi-Fi
must have just kicked on.
00:26:49.410 --> 00:26:51.011
Who's "Natalie Bumble"?
00:26:51.045 --> 00:26:53.380
- Um, let-let me just...
- Who's "Katie Raya"?
00:26:53.414 --> 00:26:54.748
- Let me put that on...
- Raya?
00:26:54.782 --> 00:26:56.217
Let me put that
on airplane mode.
00:26:56.250 --> 00:26:57.985
I thought Raya was
supposed to be exclusive.
00:26:58.018 --> 00:26:59.920
So what do you think
of this place, Ben?
00:26:59.954 --> 00:27:01.922
I love it.
00:27:01.956 --> 00:27:03.891
- Are you joking?
- Are you serious? You love it?
00:27:03.924 --> 00:27:05.259
You're from New York City.
00:27:05.292 --> 00:27:06.827
-Literally nothing happens here.
-Yeah.
00:27:06.861 --> 00:27:11.132
Well, um... I mean,
it is a little...
00:27:11.165 --> 00:27:13.400
- Hmm?
- You know.
00:27:13.434 --> 00:27:14.969
-Bleak.
-Come on, that's not fair.
00:27:15.002 --> 00:27:16.746
- We just got a Target.
- Excuse me? How dare you?
00:27:16.770 --> 00:27:18.772
Do you know how fucking
good our football team is?
00:27:18.806 --> 00:27:20.817
-This is our town.
-Okay, look, I don't know where to...
00:27:20.841 --> 00:27:22.176
where to land here. Um...
00:27:22.209 --> 00:27:24.145
Ben, there's probably
something you should know
00:27:24.178 --> 00:27:25.746
- about this place.
- Yeah.
00:27:25.779 --> 00:27:29.750
This is the most, uh, wretched,
00:27:29.783 --> 00:27:32.453
godforsaken stretch of land
on the face of the earth.
00:27:32.486 --> 00:27:34.088
And I'd never leave.
00:27:34.121 --> 00:27:36.090
You know what I mean?
00:27:36.123 --> 00:27:38.726
Yeah. That's how I
feel about Twitter.
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:40.261
- Mm.
- See, Ben's a journalist.
00:27:40.294 --> 00:27:42.062
One of the finest there is.
00:27:42.096 --> 00:27:43.764
He writes for the
New York Magazine.
00:27:43.797 --> 00:27:45.032
New Yorker. Yep.
00:27:45.065 --> 00:27:46.800
And he's gonna help us find out
00:27:46.834 --> 00:27:49.770
what really happened to Abilene.
00:27:49.803 --> 00:27:51.939
I was saying we go out
and settle with a .45,
00:27:51.972 --> 00:27:56.110
but Ben gives a whole new
perspective to the situation.
00:27:56.143 --> 00:27:59.947
Ty, you can't solve something
like this with a .45.
00:27:59.980 --> 00:28:02.116
It's not as simple
as one person.
00:28:02.149 --> 00:28:04.318
It's a whole system, son.
00:28:04.351 --> 00:28:06.187
Tell us what you mean, Granny.
00:28:06.220 --> 00:28:08.088
It's the breakdown of
society, is what it is.
00:28:08.122 --> 00:28:09.790
It's the breakdown
of the school system,
00:28:09.823 --> 00:28:11.025
- the government.
- Mm.
00:28:11.058 --> 00:28:13.928
It's the pharmaceutical
companies.
00:28:13.961 --> 00:28:16.797
It's the breakdown of the family
00:28:16.830 --> 00:28:19.233
and tradition.
00:28:20.267 --> 00:28:22.937
Oh, there's a whole lot
of people responsible
00:28:22.970 --> 00:28:25.339
- for what happened to Abilene.
- That's true.
00:28:25.372 --> 00:28:26.508
- Yes, ma'am.
- Amen.
00:28:26.541 --> 00:28:28.042
I think that's very wise.
00:28:28.075 --> 00:28:29.977
You're gonna need a
12-gauge, couple of ARs.
00:28:30.010 --> 00:28:31.412
- No. -Yep.
- A Wesson automatic.
00:28:31.445 --> 00:28:32.889
- No, no, no.
- And a sidearm for safety.
00:28:32.913 --> 00:28:34.481
- Yep. Exactly.
- We're not doing that.
00:28:34.516 --> 00:28:36.917
Oh, we're not? Yeah.
00:28:38.085 --> 00:28:41.121
I didn't think
you had the balls.
00:28:41.989 --> 00:28:44.725
Are you gonna help us, Ben?
00:28:46.427 --> 00:28:48.862
You know, um...
00:28:50.798 --> 00:28:54.802
There's some things I'm good at.
00:28:54.835 --> 00:28:57.104
I'm good at asking
the right questions.
00:28:57.137 --> 00:28:59.240
I'm good at getting
people to talk.
00:28:59.273 --> 00:29:02.876
And I'm especially good at
drawing thematic connections
00:29:02.910 --> 00:29:04.445
between seemingly
disparate elements
00:29:04.478 --> 00:29:06.347
and using that to illustrate
00:29:06.380 --> 00:29:08.916
a larger point or theory.
00:29:08.949 --> 00:29:13.187
So, whoever or whatever
00:29:13.220 --> 00:29:16.924
is responsible for what
happened to Abilene,
00:29:16.957 --> 00:29:20.828
I will find this person
00:29:20.861 --> 00:29:24.898
or this generalized
societal force,
00:29:24.932 --> 00:29:28.235
and I will define it.
00:29:29.236 --> 00:29:31.138
I'll define it.
00:29:34.174 --> 00:29:36.043
Bless your heart.
00:29:42.116 --> 00:29:45.185
I guess we have
a guest room now.
00:29:47.988 --> 00:29:49.256
Ty.
00:29:50.457 --> 00:29:51.992
Well, rest up good.
00:29:52.026 --> 00:29:54.161
We'll meet in the morning
and start to solve this.
00:29:54.194 --> 00:29:55.329
Yeah.
00:29:55.362 --> 00:29:56.964
See you in the morning.
00:29:56.997 --> 00:29:58.932
- Good night, Ty.
- Good night.
00:32:08.563 --> 00:32:10.330
Good morning.
00:32:11.131 --> 00:32:12.567
Yeah, that's it. What else...?
00:32:12.600 --> 00:32:14.168
- Can I say it proves a lot?
- Yeah.
00:32:14.201 --> 00:32:15.737
I'm gonna take a
short break here,
00:32:15.770 --> 00:32:17.438
and during this break,
I hope you'll call
00:32:17.471 --> 00:32:20.742
and support this station
during this long, important
00:32:20.775 --> 00:32:22.376
- membership drive.
- Thanks.
00:32:22.409 --> 00:32:24.053
We have some great free
gifts to offer you,
00:32:24.077 --> 00:32:25.713
and I'm not just
talking coffee mugs.
00:32:31.653 --> 00:32:34.354
Well, Ben, there's really two
versions of life out here.
00:32:34.388 --> 00:32:37.157
Boom times, everybody's
rich and busy.
00:32:37.191 --> 00:32:39.493
It's like one big
party out here.
00:32:39.527 --> 00:32:41.328
And then the bust comes.
00:32:41.361 --> 00:32:43.039
It's really like two
different places out here.
00:32:43.063 --> 00:32:45.098
It's always boom or bust.
00:32:45.132 --> 00:32:46.668
Which is it right now?
00:32:48.068 --> 00:32:49.403
Kinda in between.
00:32:49.436 --> 00:32:50.304
Yeah.
00:32:50.337 --> 00:32:52.206
Kinda in between, to
tell you the truth.
00:32:52.239 --> 00:32:53.239
Okay.
00:32:55.108 --> 00:32:57.044
You son of a...
00:32:57.077 --> 00:32:58.613
- Get off.
- Crawl. There's our worm.
00:32:58.646 --> 00:33:00.481
Oh, you like being on top.
00:33:00.515 --> 00:33:03.551
- Get off. Yeah.
- Whoo!
00:33:03.585 --> 00:33:04.686
This the guy?
00:33:04.719 --> 00:33:06.086
Yep.
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:07.354
Hmm.
00:33:07.387 --> 00:33:09.423
Let me save you
some time: Sancholo.
00:33:09.456 --> 00:33:10.758
Sancholo. Sancholo.
00:33:10.792 --> 00:33:12.159
What's Sancholo?
00:33:12.192 --> 00:33:14.428
The guy who killed Abilene.
00:33:14.461 --> 00:33:15.763
A Mexican drug dealer.
00:33:15.797 --> 00:33:17.732
Evil motherfucker.
00:33:17.765 --> 00:33:19.366
You name it, he's got it.
00:33:19.399 --> 00:33:20.735
Not crazy about
his prices though.
00:33:20.768 --> 00:33:23.237
So, you know who killed Abilene?
00:33:23.270 --> 00:33:24.037
Yes, sir.
00:33:24.071 --> 00:33:26.574
Did you call the
police about it?
00:33:26.608 --> 00:33:28.141
Mike and Dan?
00:33:28.175 --> 00:33:29.777
Those lazy fucktards.
00:33:29.811 --> 00:33:31.111
Everything's an accident.
00:33:31.144 --> 00:33:32.112
Gun accident.
00:33:32.145 --> 00:33:33.180
Uh, driving accident.
00:33:33.213 --> 00:33:35.215
I've known Abilene
00:33:35.249 --> 00:33:37.184
since we were knee-high
to a grasshopper.
00:33:37.217 --> 00:33:39.186
She never touched
so much as an Advil,
00:33:39.219 --> 00:33:41.255
and-and then, out of the blue,
00:33:41.288 --> 00:33:44.458
they find this
angel, this angel,
00:33:44.491 --> 00:33:47.662
dead of an oxy OD
at a party he threw!
00:33:47.695 --> 00:33:49.296
Ooh, you're getting
me warmed up.
00:33:49.329 --> 00:33:51.331
He's been obsessed with
her since middle school.
00:33:51.365 --> 00:33:53.333
Yep. He'd call the
house every night.
00:33:53.367 --> 00:33:55.335
They used to be on
the phone for hours.
00:33:55.369 --> 00:33:57.070
He's just a piece of it anyway.
00:33:57.104 --> 00:33:58.806
It's too big to understand.
00:33:58.840 --> 00:34:01.576
You got deep state in
bed with pill pushers,
00:34:01.609 --> 00:34:03.645
- cartels, pedos.
- Uh-huh.
00:34:03.678 --> 00:34:05.145
- The law.
- How, wha...
00:34:05.178 --> 00:34:06.179
Hey, shh. Hey.
00:34:06.213 --> 00:34:08.415
And you're a piece of it, too.
00:34:09.216 --> 00:34:11.118
So, um, I'd love to talk
00:34:11.151 --> 00:34:12.563
to some of the
characters you mentioned.
00:34:12.587 --> 00:34:14.421
Mike and Dan? Sancholo?
00:34:14.454 --> 00:34:15.866
Oh, he's gotta be at
the rodeo in Holliston.
00:34:15.890 --> 00:34:17.291
No doubt.
00:34:17.324 --> 00:34:18.836
There and the honky-tonk,
too, afterwards.
00:34:18.860 --> 00:34:21.428
-That's where a drug dealer can do their best business.
-Mm.
00:34:21.461 --> 00:34:23.565
'Cause everybody
goes to the rodeo.
00:34:23.598 --> 00:34:25.867
White, Mexicans.
00:34:25.900 --> 00:34:29.169
You really want to
avenge her with him?
00:34:29.202 --> 00:34:30.805
I'm like a brother to you.
00:34:30.838 --> 00:34:33.307
Well, he's like
a brother-in-law.
00:34:33.340 --> 00:34:35.208
Oh, come on.
00:34:35.242 --> 00:34:37.612
Ben, you ever been in a fight?
00:34:37.645 --> 00:34:39.146
You mean like a physical fight
00:34:39.179 --> 00:34:40.582
or like an online skirmish?
00:34:42.884 --> 00:34:44.484
I got him.
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:47.387
Crawl wouldn't hurt a
fly, would you, Crawl?
00:34:47.421 --> 00:34:50.490
I never understood that
expression about flies.
00:34:50.525 --> 00:34:52.594
Yeah, I'd kill a fly,
00:34:52.627 --> 00:34:56.263
but what kind of sick
fuck would hurt a fly?
00:34:56.296 --> 00:34:59.099
Make it feel pain? Hmm?
00:35:01.234 --> 00:35:06.340
You don't have any idea
where you are, do you?
00:35:06.373 --> 00:35:07.341
Hmm?
00:35:07.374 --> 00:35:10.110
Want me to show you a map?
00:35:10.878 --> 00:35:13.514
Welcome to Texas.
00:35:13.548 --> 00:35:15.917
You are here.
00:35:31.966 --> 00:35:33.635
Morning, KC.
00:35:33.668 --> 00:35:34.769
Hey.
00:35:34.802 --> 00:35:36.771
Uh, would you like some coffee?
00:35:36.804 --> 00:35:39.206
- Sure.
- How do you take it?
00:35:40.775 --> 00:35:42.409
In the mouth?
00:35:46.547 --> 00:35:47.915
All right, tell me something
00:35:47.949 --> 00:35:49.651
that you love about
where you live.
00:35:49.684 --> 00:35:51.786
- Whataburger!
- Whoo.
00:35:51.819 --> 00:35:53.186
- Oh. -Yeah.
- Okay, great.
00:35:53.220 --> 00:35:54.454
Um, tell me about it.
00:35:54.488 --> 00:35:55.899
- You want to go right now?
- Yeah, let's go.
00:35:55.923 --> 00:35:57.525
- Uh... Uh...
- I'm ready.
00:35:57.558 --> 00:35:59.402
-You want...
-Just, no, just, uh, tell me about it.
00:35:59.426 --> 00:36:01.529
You're gonna love
Whataburger, Ben.
00:36:01.562 --> 00:36:04.264
- Oh, it's the best.
- What makes it the best?
00:36:04.297 --> 00:36:06.934
Wherever you are,
there's a Whataburger.
00:36:06.968 --> 00:36:09.336
Yeah. It's always right there.
00:36:10.004 --> 00:36:12.272
Okay. And then
when you get there,
00:36:12.305 --> 00:36:13.951
what do you like about
it? What do you get?
00:36:13.975 --> 00:36:15.486
- Whatever you want.
- It's always right there.
00:36:15.510 --> 00:36:17.310
You could order
whatever you want, Ben.
00:36:17.344 --> 00:36:20.280
Right, but there are a
lot of places like that.
00:36:20.313 --> 00:36:22.550
So, let's say there
is a McDonald's,
00:36:22.583 --> 00:36:25.485
a Burger King, a Sonic
and a Whataburger
00:36:25.520 --> 00:36:26.721
all lined up.
00:36:26.754 --> 00:36:27.889
Which one do you go to?
00:36:27.922 --> 00:36:28.890
Whataburger!
00:36:28.923 --> 00:36:30.457
Right, right. Why?
00:36:30.490 --> 00:36:32.560
Because it's right there!
00:36:32.593 --> 00:36:34.595
Yes, but they're
all right there.
00:36:35.563 --> 00:36:39.499
In this scenario,
they're all right there.
00:36:39.534 --> 00:36:43.437
So, what do you get
out of Whataburger?
00:36:43.470 --> 00:36:45.405
What makes it better to you?
00:36:45.439 --> 00:36:47.542
- What are you getting...
- Ben.
00:36:48.408 --> 00:36:49.844
Asking why you love Whataburger
00:36:49.877 --> 00:36:51.579
is like asking why
you love Christmas
00:36:51.612 --> 00:36:54.982
or a summer night or
why you love your dog.
00:36:55.016 --> 00:36:57.284
I mean, you could
point to the reasons,
00:36:57.317 --> 00:36:59.587
but the reasons aren't
really the point.
00:36:59.620 --> 00:37:04.224
You just love it, and
that's how love works.
00:37:16.771 --> 00:37:18.039
I'm on my way to get
00:37:18.072 --> 00:37:20.742
what could be some
good local color.
00:37:20.775 --> 00:37:23.343
It's the place Abilene
recorded some demos.
00:37:23.376 --> 00:37:26.514
I'm heading towards the
Quentin Sellers Music Factory.
00:37:26.547 --> 00:37:30.551
A place in Marfa, the
arts town, where...
00:37:30.585 --> 00:37:32.820
people pursue their
dreams of musical stardom.
00:37:32.854 --> 00:37:37.658
His motto is "making dreams
come true since 2018."
00:37:38.726 --> 00:37:41.428
Eloise, if you have, um... if
you can play a clip of that,
00:37:41.461 --> 00:37:44.397
um, Rebecca Black
song, "Friday,"
00:37:44.431 --> 00:37:46.067
that would be really funny here.
00:37:46.100 --> 00:37:48.268
I bet it's cheap to play.
00:38:02.016 --> 00:38:04.786
♪ Yeah, yeah ♪
00:38:05.953 --> 00:38:07.789
♪ Yeah ♪
00:38:18.833 --> 00:38:20.101
♪ Yeah ♪
00:38:31.646 --> 00:38:33.815
Okay.
00:38:35.448 --> 00:38:38.586
- Hi.
- Hi.
00:38:39.452 --> 00:38:41.354
What is music?
00:38:41.388 --> 00:38:42.924
Like, singing and stuff.
00:38:42.957 --> 00:38:45.593
Yeah, that's right.
00:38:47.394 --> 00:38:50.363
Let's take a step back.
00:38:50.397 --> 00:38:52.533
I want to share
an idea with you.
00:38:53.433 --> 00:38:57.104
There's no argument
more profound
00:38:57.138 --> 00:39:00.440
than how the universe
came into existence.
00:39:00.473 --> 00:39:02.143
- Oh, God.
- Are we here because of God
00:39:02.176 --> 00:39:03.544
or science?
00:39:03.578 --> 00:39:06.848
I mean, it is, by
its very nature,
00:39:06.881 --> 00:39:09.482
the most fundamental question.
00:39:10.417 --> 00:39:14.822
But there's one thing
that everyone agrees on.
00:39:16.123 --> 00:39:19.760
And that is whether
it was God declaring,
00:39:19.794 --> 00:39:22.597
"Let there be light,"
00:39:22.630 --> 00:39:25.633
or an infinite
particle of energy
00:39:25.666 --> 00:39:29.604
bursting forth in the big bang.
00:39:29.637 --> 00:39:31.873
Everyone,
00:39:31.906 --> 00:39:34.542
and I mean everyone,
00:39:34.575 --> 00:39:38.913
agrees that the universe
00:39:38.946 --> 00:39:41.649
started with a sound.
00:39:44.785 --> 00:39:47.088
Why do I call myself
a record producer?
00:39:47.121 --> 00:39:49.590
I don't know.
00:39:49.624 --> 00:39:51.859
Yeah, I mean, we don't
even make records anymore.
00:39:53.527 --> 00:39:57.064
What we're recording
here isn't your record.
00:39:57.098 --> 00:39:59.499
It's your sound...
00:39:59.533 --> 00:40:03.537
on the record that started
00:40:03.571 --> 00:40:06.841
with the very first
moment in time.
00:40:07.675 --> 00:40:10.578
So when you sing this song...
00:40:12.647 --> 00:40:17.518
I want you to think about
how what you're making
00:40:17.551 --> 00:40:23.490
is the record of your
time here on this earth.
00:40:24.592 --> 00:40:29.163
It's the sound that you scratch
00:40:29.196 --> 00:40:32.533
with your life...
00:40:33.200 --> 00:40:35.870
on the record of the universe.
00:40:39.040 --> 00:40:41.008
- Okay?
- Okay.
00:40:45.579 --> 00:40:51.719
♪ I finished my
shift at Claire's ♪
00:40:51.752 --> 00:40:57.825
♪ Climbed up those
steep mall stairs ♪
00:40:57.858 --> 00:41:03.764
♪ And the pain of
having nowhere to go ♪
00:41:03.798 --> 00:41:07.001
♪ Pierced the skin of my soul ♪
00:41:07.034 --> 00:41:10.972
♪ As I sat on the steps ♪
00:41:11.005 --> 00:41:13.207
♪ And waited and waited ♪
00:41:13.240 --> 00:41:18.813
♪ For no one to take me home. ♪
00:41:18.846 --> 00:41:21.082
Yeah.
00:41:22.750 --> 00:41:23.985
Thank you.
00:41:24.018 --> 00:41:25.987
I call this place the Factory.
00:41:26.020 --> 00:41:28.689
-You know, after Andy Warhol's Factory.
-Hmm.
00:41:29.690 --> 00:41:31.301
Most people around here
think it's a reference
00:41:31.325 --> 00:41:33.094
to C+C Music Factory.
00:41:33.127 --> 00:41:37.298
Which, honestly, I-I think
Warhol would've loved, but...
00:41:37.331 --> 00:41:39.600
Yeah, actually. Yeah.
00:41:39.633 --> 00:41:40.768
I'm from out here.
00:41:40.801 --> 00:41:42.203
I went to college in New Haven.
00:41:42.236 --> 00:41:43.871
Oh, I went to school in Boston.
00:41:43.904 --> 00:41:45.706
Yeah, I thought
about staying there,
00:41:45.740 --> 00:41:47.842
but this is the place that
needs something like this.
00:41:47.875 --> 00:41:50.144
The problem isn't that
people aren't smart.
00:41:50.177 --> 00:41:52.246
The problem is that they are.
00:41:52.279 --> 00:41:54.048
If the landscape is like this,
00:41:54.081 --> 00:41:57.151
a-and people were just boring,
you wouldn't have this problem.
00:41:57.184 --> 00:42:00.287
The problem is, you get all
these bright, creative lights
00:42:00.321 --> 00:42:03.024
and nowhere to plug
in their energy.
00:42:03.057 --> 00:42:05.226
And so it gets channeled
into conspiracy theories
00:42:05.259 --> 00:42:07.061
and drugs and violence.
00:42:07.094 --> 00:42:09.630
Who are your favorite
music artists right now?
00:42:09.663 --> 00:42:10.931
Um...
00:42:10.965 --> 00:42:12.299
- Can I take a guess?
- Yeah.
00:42:12.333 --> 00:42:13.701
You're a playlist guy.
00:42:13.734 --> 00:42:15.302
What does that mean?
00:42:15.336 --> 00:42:16.913
When some computer recommends
you a bunch of songs
00:42:16.937 --> 00:42:19.206
based on your favorites,
and a bunch more
00:42:19.240 --> 00:42:20.751
-based on your favorites of those.
-Right.
00:42:20.775 --> 00:42:22.352
So you're listening to
a bunch of music that,
00:42:22.376 --> 00:42:24.645
- I mean, you genuinely like...
- Yeah.
00:42:24.678 --> 00:42:26.147
But you have no
idea who sings it.
00:42:26.180 --> 00:42:28.783
Now, these playlists, it's
like the dating app for music.
00:42:28.816 --> 00:42:30.785
You're not hearing
other people's voices.
00:42:30.818 --> 00:42:33.287
You're just hearing your
voice get played back at you.
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:35.823
How are you supposed
to fall in love?
00:42:36.891 --> 00:42:39.794
Art used to be in charge of us.
00:42:39.827 --> 00:42:41.062
You used to buy a whole album
00:42:41.095 --> 00:42:43.831
not even knowing what
songs would be on it.
00:42:44.765 --> 00:42:47.168
Now we have
everything on demand.
00:42:48.202 --> 00:42:50.805
At your fingertips.
00:42:50.838 --> 00:42:52.907
In pieces.
00:42:53.841 --> 00:42:55.810
You think half the people
that are posting quotes
00:42:55.843 --> 00:42:58.345
from Oscar Wilde have ever
actually read one of his plays?
00:42:58.379 --> 00:42:59.680
No.
00:42:59.713 --> 00:43:01.082
Or posting photos
of Audrey Hepburn
00:43:01.115 --> 00:43:03.784
have actually seen the
film that it's from?
00:43:03.818 --> 00:43:05.619
- No.
- Not a chance, right?
00:43:05.653 --> 00:43:06.954
What is that about, huh?
00:43:06.987 --> 00:43:09.824
It's the same in culture
as it is in archaeology.
00:43:09.857 --> 00:43:11.959
When a civilization collapses,
00:43:11.992 --> 00:43:14.361
only the tiniest
fragments remain.
00:43:14.395 --> 00:43:16.297
But we can build it back again.
00:43:16.330 --> 00:43:18.365
How?
00:43:18.399 --> 00:43:20.301
Make recordings.
00:43:20.334 --> 00:43:22.837
Real people.
00:43:22.870 --> 00:43:25.039
Not what people think
that they already know
00:43:25.072 --> 00:43:26.407
and want to hear.
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:28.109
Real people.
00:43:28.142 --> 00:43:33.013
Not some generic
stereotype or generic song.
00:43:34.014 --> 00:43:36.817
Real people.
00:43:38.419 --> 00:43:40.254
What's this podcast
about anyway?
00:43:40.287 --> 00:43:42.022
Well, um, it's about America.
00:43:42.056 --> 00:43:43.057
Okay.
00:43:43.090 --> 00:43:47.128
It's about the myths
that we tell ourselves.
00:43:47.161 --> 00:43:48.195
Who is it about?
00:43:49.697 --> 00:43:51.098
All of us.
00:43:51.132 --> 00:43:54.735
Every story we tell is
ultimately about a person.
00:43:56.036 --> 00:43:57.371
Abilene Shaw.
00:43:57.404 --> 00:43:59.340
Abilene.
00:43:59.373 --> 00:44:01.142
Yeah.
00:44:01.175 --> 00:44:04.011
You're making a
podcast about Abilene.
00:44:04.044 --> 00:44:05.713
Well, it's a little
about Abilene.
00:44:05.746 --> 00:44:07.414
-I'm trying to make it more about...
-No.
00:44:07.448 --> 00:44:09.283
It's about Abilene.
00:44:09.316 --> 00:44:10.284
The person.
00:44:10.317 --> 00:44:11.719
That's all you need.
00:44:11.752 --> 00:44:13.154
What did you think
about her music?
00:44:13.187 --> 00:44:14.355
I haven't really heard it.
00:44:14.388 --> 00:44:15.890
Shut the front door.
00:44:15.923 --> 00:44:18.792
- I mean, I have...
- Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.
00:44:21.061 --> 00:44:23.664
Come with me.
00:44:24.298 --> 00:44:25.799
Here it is.
00:44:25.833 --> 00:44:27.168
Everything we ever recorded.
00:44:27.201 --> 00:44:29.069
- Thank you so much.
- You're in for a treat.
00:44:30.104 --> 00:44:32.773
Doesn't she have a sister
who wants to be a singer?
00:44:32.806 --> 00:44:34.341
Wants to be famous.
00:44:34.375 --> 00:44:36.343
Means she knows she's somebody.
00:44:36.377 --> 00:44:38.379
Just doesn't know who yet.
00:44:38.412 --> 00:44:40.814
She needs to find her voice.
00:44:41.482 --> 00:44:42.917
What about my voice?
00:44:42.950 --> 00:44:44.785
I'll put you in the studio.
00:44:44.818 --> 00:44:46.287
What do you want to do?
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:49.089
I-I, you know...
00:44:49.123 --> 00:44:53.427
If I came here for advice
about my voice, my...
00:44:53.460 --> 00:44:56.397
you know, my
writing, my podcast,
00:44:56.430 --> 00:44:58.699
what would you tell me?
00:45:00.267 --> 00:45:04.972
I'd probably say that
nobody writes anything.
00:45:06.240 --> 00:45:08.342
All we do is translate.
00:45:08.375 --> 00:45:11.845
So if you ever get stuck and
you don't know what to say...
00:45:12.547 --> 00:45:14.715
just listen.
00:45:15.282 --> 00:45:17.885
Even to the silences.
00:45:19.053 --> 00:45:23.924
Listen as hard as you can to
the world around you and...
00:45:23.958 --> 00:45:27.194
repeat back what you hear.
00:45:28.195 --> 00:45:30.397
That translation,
00:45:30.431 --> 00:45:32.800
that's your voice.
00:45:40.140 --> 00:45:42.243
I gotta say, this
is not anything
00:45:42.276 --> 00:45:44.111
like what I expected to find.
00:45:44.144 --> 00:45:46.347
You came here to make
fun of me, didn't you?
00:45:47.982 --> 00:45:49.416
- No, no. No.
- No, I get it's...
00:45:49.450 --> 00:45:51.118
It's... I get it.
00:45:51.151 --> 00:45:53.555
Record producer in
the middle of nowhere.
00:45:53.588 --> 00:45:56.290
You thought I'd be
sillier, smaller.
00:45:56.323 --> 00:45:58.158
I get it.
00:45:58.192 --> 00:46:00.828
Hey, look.
00:46:00.861 --> 00:46:02.363
It's already working.
00:46:02.396 --> 00:46:04.832
You listened.
00:46:04.865 --> 00:46:06.133
You learned.
00:46:09.370 --> 00:46:11.138
Welcome to Texas.
00:46:16.844 --> 00:46:19.046
Thank you.
00:46:30.190 --> 00:46:34.194
The setting sun sets
Texas afire with a glow.
00:46:35.062 --> 00:46:36.397
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:46:36.430 --> 00:46:39.099
It's fucking beautiful.
00:46:47.509 --> 00:46:48.976
Well, hi.
00:46:51.912 --> 00:46:53.480
Thank you.
00:46:53.515 --> 00:46:56.116
Uh, when I told my mama that
I was gonna move to New York
00:46:56.150 --> 00:46:57.918
and try and make it in music,
00:46:57.951 --> 00:47:00.921
she looked at me and she just
said, "Bless your heart."
00:47:00.954 --> 00:47:04.491
Which is Texas for, "Fuck you."
00:47:04.526 --> 00:47:06.327
Love you, Mama.
00:47:07.629 --> 00:47:12.399
♪ True love will
find you in the end ♪
00:47:14.134 --> 00:47:18.372
♪ You'll find out just
who is your friend ♪
00:47:21.275 --> 00:47:24.579
♪ Don't be sad, I
know you will... ♪
00:47:24.612 --> 00:47:26.947
Ah...
00:47:26.980 --> 00:47:29.883
Will you help me unjam my gun?
00:47:30.984 --> 00:47:33.387
I don't know how to do that.
00:47:44.298 --> 00:47:47.234
They ought to call
you El Stupido.
00:47:51.573 --> 00:47:53.941
Can I sleep on your floor?
00:47:54.542 --> 00:47:56.544
Yeah.
00:47:56.578 --> 00:47:58.479
Of course.
00:47:59.514 --> 00:48:01.882
Thank you.
00:48:21.536 --> 00:48:24.639
♪ I'm still drivin' ♪
00:48:24.672 --> 00:48:27.441
♪ When's this break gon' come? ♪
00:48:27.474 --> 00:48:29.943
♪ You back my pickin' ♪
00:48:29.977 --> 00:48:33.147
♪ With a big ol'
timpani drum... ♪
00:48:33.180 --> 00:48:35.683
Vengeance is a
unique phenomenon.
00:48:35.717 --> 00:48:37.351
Texas invented vengeance.
00:48:37.384 --> 00:48:40.187
It makes no sense if
you think about it.
00:48:40.220 --> 00:48:41.689
Every other primal
human instinct
00:48:41.723 --> 00:48:44.091
leads to a clear
evolutionary reward.
00:48:44.124 --> 00:48:46.093
But vengeance is different.
00:48:46.126 --> 00:48:47.461
It's not about the future.
00:48:47.494 --> 00:48:49.363
It's only about the past.
00:48:49.396 --> 00:48:51.498
When that massacre
happened, we didn't retreat.
00:48:51.533 --> 00:48:55.570
We didn't say, "Let's all make
sure we don't get Mexiphobia."
00:48:55.603 --> 00:48:58.071
We said, "Remember the Alamo."
00:48:58.105 --> 00:48:59.541
It's not about hope.
00:48:59.574 --> 00:49:01.275
It's about regret.
00:49:01.308 --> 00:49:03.444
Abby was always
creatively minded.
00:49:03.477 --> 00:49:05.580
She would make movies
with her sisters.
00:49:05.613 --> 00:49:07.114
Music, of course.
00:49:07.147 --> 00:49:10.384
Oh, she had such
a beautiful voice.
00:49:10.417 --> 00:49:12.486
I really wish more
people could've heard it.
00:49:12.520 --> 00:49:13.621
You're a writer.
00:49:13.655 --> 00:49:15.489
Anything I'd know?
00:49:16.591 --> 00:49:18.392
None of this.
00:49:18.425 --> 00:49:20.194
The desperation that
you see around here,
00:49:20.227 --> 00:49:23.063
it's not from a lack of
intelligence or creativity.
00:49:23.096 --> 00:49:24.364
It's an excess.
00:49:24.398 --> 00:49:26.200
We're not really a gun family.
00:49:26.233 --> 00:49:28.368
We have a few rifles
for shooting targets,
00:49:28.402 --> 00:49:30.204
a couple handguns
for safety, and...
00:49:30.237 --> 00:49:32.215
- And that doesn't concern you?
- Why would it concern me?
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:34.107
There's this playwright,
Anton Chekhov,
00:49:34.141 --> 00:49:36.477
and he says that if there's
a gun in act one of a play...
00:49:36.511 --> 00:49:39.446
There's no guns in any one
of his plays I can think of.
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:41.281
Cherry Orchard, no.
Uncle Vanya, no.
00:49:41.315 --> 00:49:42.660
I'm not actually that
familiar with his plays.
00:49:42.684 --> 00:49:44.418
Uh, I'm more familiar
with his theory.
00:49:44.451 --> 00:49:48.088
But the stakes of these
feelings aren't hypothetical.
00:49:48.121 --> 00:49:49.757
They're all too real.
00:49:49.791 --> 00:49:53.227
I'm your host, Ben Manalowitz,
from American Radio Collective.
00:49:53.260 --> 00:49:55.128
This is Dead White Girl.
00:49:55.162 --> 00:49:56.564
Hey.
00:49:56.598 --> 00:49:58.533
So, this is great.
00:49:58.566 --> 00:49:59.767
Really?
00:49:59.801 --> 00:50:01.168
Yeah.
00:50:01.201 --> 00:50:02.646
I'm, like, dorking
out over this family.
00:50:02.670 --> 00:50:04.171
Their family's like my family.
00:50:04.204 --> 00:50:05.507
Great. Great.
00:50:05.540 --> 00:50:06.608
Do you have any notes?
00:50:06.641 --> 00:50:08.141
Yeah. I got a couple.
00:50:08.175 --> 00:50:09.376
Thought you said you loved it.
00:50:09.409 --> 00:50:11.779
You asked if I had
notes, and I got notes,
00:50:11.813 --> 00:50:13.280
okay, first-timer?
00:50:13.313 --> 00:50:14.825
Okay. All right, all
right, what do you got?
00:50:14.849 --> 00:50:17.084
Okay, you're stepping
on people's lines,
00:50:17.117 --> 00:50:19.353
- and we need it clean, so...
- Yep, yep.
00:50:19.386 --> 00:50:21.689
Just like what you're doing
right now. Don't do that.
00:50:21.723 --> 00:50:23.090
Right.
00:50:23.123 --> 00:50:24.792
Don't talk while
they're talking.
00:50:24.826 --> 00:50:27.662
Just listen... or
pretend to listen.
00:50:27.695 --> 00:50:29.263
Okay. What else?
00:50:29.296 --> 00:50:30.708
And you know what
would help some people?
00:50:30.732 --> 00:50:33.400
If you... if you... if you
do, like, a silent laugh
00:50:33.433 --> 00:50:34.434
to egg them on.
00:50:34.468 --> 00:50:36.336
You know, like, um...
00:50:37.170 --> 00:50:39.106
Like what? I lost you.
00:50:39.139 --> 00:50:40.508
Like... No, I'm doing it.
00:50:40.542 --> 00:50:42.142
Right, okay.
00:50:42.175 --> 00:50:44.411
Where are you going to
next, the... the rodeo?
00:50:44.444 --> 00:50:45.747
Yep, my first rodeo.
00:50:45.780 --> 00:50:47.381
I'm really excited.
00:50:47.414 --> 00:50:48.826
Apparently, it's a real
socioeconomic cross section.
00:50:48.850 --> 00:50:52.152
Yeah, and horses
and bulls and stuff.
00:50:54.889 --> 00:50:56.089
You're doing it?
00:50:56.123 --> 00:50:57.424
Yeah, could you tell?
00:50:57.457 --> 00:50:58.726
Good luck.
00:51:02.797 --> 00:51:04.431
All right, Ben.
00:51:04.464 --> 00:51:05.843
- You're gonna love this place.
- Yeah.
00:51:05.867 --> 00:51:07.467
A whole lot to see,
lot to take in.
00:51:07.502 --> 00:51:10.137
"Fourth Annual Bull
Bash Cowboy Protection."
00:51:10.170 --> 00:51:12.406
Cowboy protection
for, uh, bullfighting
00:51:12.439 --> 00:51:14.374
- in Oyster Creek, Texas.
- Cool. Excellent.
00:51:14.408 --> 00:51:16.310
And, uh, you're a pitmaster.
00:51:16.343 --> 00:51:17.177
Yes, sir.
00:51:17.210 --> 00:51:18.454
And what is the secret
to your success?
00:51:18.478 --> 00:51:20.748
Time and more time.
00:51:21.448 --> 00:51:24.384
Bingo!
- Ten points!
00:51:26.353 --> 00:51:27.889
Oh, hell yes!
00:51:27.922 --> 00:51:29.132
- Ben, you're gonna love this.
- All right.
00:51:29.156 --> 00:51:30.223
Deep-fried Twinkies.
00:51:30.257 --> 00:51:31.301
Ben, you gotta try one of these.
00:51:31.325 --> 00:51:32.492
- Hello, beautiful.
- Oh! Hi.
00:51:32.527 --> 00:51:34.596
Can I get, uh, one,
two, three, four, five
00:51:34.629 --> 00:51:35.797
deep-fried Twinkies?
00:51:35.830 --> 00:51:37.632
Uh, can we get one
of those grilled?
00:51:40.233 --> 00:51:41.335
It's fucking good.
00:51:41.368 --> 00:51:42.870
- Fucking good.
- Yeah.
00:51:42.904 --> 00:51:44.672
Just keep a low profile, Ben.
00:51:44.706 --> 00:51:45.849
We'll find our man. No doubt.
00:51:45.873 --> 00:51:47.474
Hundred percent.
00:51:47.508 --> 00:51:50.344
Ladies and gentlemen,
boys and girls,
00:51:50.377 --> 00:51:52.446
welcome to the Holliston Rodeo.
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Now, carrying the six
beautiful flags of Texas,
00:52:23.410 --> 00:52:26.246
welcome our beautiful riders.
00:52:26.279 --> 00:52:28.382
All right, Ben.
00:52:28.415 --> 00:52:30.283
The six flags of Texas
00:52:30.317 --> 00:52:33.453
-are the six countries that Texas has belonged to.
-Okay.
00:52:33.487 --> 00:52:36.223
- Can you name all six?
- Uh, the United States.
00:52:36.256 --> 00:52:38.826
Uh, France, Louisiana
Purchase, Spain,
00:52:38.860 --> 00:52:40.862
Mexico. Uh...
00:52:40.895 --> 00:52:43.731
Um, uh... Republic of Texas!
00:52:43.765 --> 00:52:44.966
What's that, five?
00:52:44.999 --> 00:52:46.668
Not bad, brother. Not bad.
00:52:46.701 --> 00:52:48.636
Nobody ever gets five.
00:52:51.438 --> 00:52:52.807
Right.
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:55.475
So Six Flags, the theme park...
00:52:55.510 --> 00:52:56.944
Exactly.
00:52:56.978 --> 00:52:58.980
- Is a Texas company.
- Right.
00:53:00.715 --> 00:53:02.416
Very interesting.
00:53:02.449 --> 00:53:04.619
And now, ladies and gentlemen,
00:53:04.652 --> 00:53:05.920
if you're a real Texan,
00:53:05.953 --> 00:53:08.221
you know what to do
when this song plays.
00:53:13.861 --> 00:53:15.863
Did you really
just try to Shazam
00:53:15.897 --> 00:53:17.899
- "Deep in the Heart of Texas"?
- Uh...
00:53:17.932 --> 00:53:19.000
No.
00:53:20.668 --> 00:53:22.713
Now, ladies and gentlemen,
who here is a die-hard fan
00:53:22.737 --> 00:53:24.839
of the University of Texas?
00:53:24.872 --> 00:53:26.774
Whoo!
00:53:28.609 --> 00:53:31.746
And who here is a
fan of Texas Tech?
00:53:36.818 --> 00:53:39.352
Okay, let's hear
from both sides.
00:53:39.386 --> 00:53:41.321
Can we have the
UT fan come down?
00:53:41.354 --> 00:53:42.599
- Good luck, buddy.
- Give them hell, Ben.
00:53:42.623 --> 00:53:44.525
Is this for real?
Are you seriou...
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:46.326
Do you think we're joking?
00:53:46.359 --> 00:53:49.396
And let's get a Texas Tech fan.
00:54:00.041 --> 00:54:03.010
Okay, let's start with
Mr. University of Texas.
00:54:04.579 --> 00:54:06.013
Now, what's your name, son?
00:54:06.047 --> 00:54:07.481
Ben Manalowitz.
00:54:07.515 --> 00:54:09.617
What the whosit?
00:54:11.384 --> 00:54:12.920
And what do you do, son?
00:54:12.954 --> 00:54:14.589
I'm a writer.
00:54:14.622 --> 00:54:15.489
A rider?
00:54:15.523 --> 00:54:16.758
You don't look like a rider.
00:54:16.791 --> 00:54:17.859
What do you ride, son?
00:54:17.892 --> 00:54:19.493
Huh?
00:54:19.527 --> 00:54:21.028
Well, there's lots
of kinds of riding.
00:54:21.062 --> 00:54:23.798
You can ride horses,
steer, tractors.
00:54:23.831 --> 00:54:24.999
No.
00:54:25.032 --> 00:54:27.668
I'm not a rider. I'm a writer.
00:54:28.669 --> 00:54:31.304
I'm a writer.
00:54:31.338 --> 00:54:33.941
So, like, you know, uh...
00:54:33.975 --> 00:54:38.813
when... when you come across
a book or a magazine...
00:54:39.781 --> 00:54:43.450
or even an article
that you read online.
00:54:44.085 --> 00:54:45.653
Somebody has to...
00:54:45.686 --> 00:54:48.388
has to actually think
about what those words...
00:54:48.421 --> 00:54:50.658
I know what a writer is,
you condescending asshole.
00:54:53.127 --> 00:54:54.729
Well, tell me, Shakespeare,
00:54:54.762 --> 00:54:57.932
what do you like so much
about the University of Texas?
00:55:01.434 --> 00:55:04.404
Well, I like that
it's a state school.
00:55:04.437 --> 00:55:07.407
So, it gives financial
opportunities
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:10.511
to local people who
could use the help.
00:55:10.545 --> 00:55:14.849
And I know that it has a
very good film department.
00:55:14.882 --> 00:55:17.051
Some of the graduates include,
00:55:17.084 --> 00:55:18.786
I believe, Richard Linklater.
00:55:18.820 --> 00:55:20.988
Uh-huh. Okay.
00:55:21.022 --> 00:55:23.758
And what do you like
about Texas Tech?
00:55:23.791 --> 00:55:26.828
Quarterback Matt Harris!
00:55:29.597 --> 00:55:30.430
Guns up!
00:55:30.463 --> 00:55:31.933
Repping Tech!
00:55:33.801 --> 00:55:36.436
♪ Shake that thang,
make that thang ♪
00:55:36.469 --> 00:55:38.582
♪ Bend until you think it's
gonna break that thang... ♪
00:55:38.606 --> 00:55:39.774
Don't worry about it.
00:55:39.807 --> 00:55:41.742
- Nobody's thinking about it.
- Yeah.
00:55:41.776 --> 00:55:43.110
Erase it from your mind.
00:55:43.144 --> 00:55:44.846
Enjoy.
00:55:44.879 --> 00:55:46.723
♪ When she moves that
thang, grooves that thang ♪
00:55:46.747 --> 00:55:49.984
♪ Swing to the rhythm of
the groove that thang... ♪
00:55:50.017 --> 00:55:51.853
Whoo! Shake it, girls!
00:55:51.886 --> 00:55:53.654
♪ Nobody else does
what she does to me ♪
00:55:53.688 --> 00:55:54.622
Not you, KC.
00:55:54.655 --> 00:55:56.389
♪ Shake that thang... ♪
00:55:56.423 --> 00:55:57.959
How do they all...
00:55:57.992 --> 00:56:00.094
know how to do the same...?
00:56:00.127 --> 00:56:02.530
Collective consciousness.
00:56:02.563 --> 00:56:05.566
♪ Every song is such
a sight to see ♪
00:56:05.600 --> 00:56:07.602
♪ When she moves that
thang, grooves that thang ♪
00:56:07.635 --> 00:56:09.704
♪ Swing to the rhythm of
the groove that thang ♪
00:56:11.105 --> 00:56:12.740
♪ Speaks for itself ♪
00:56:12.773 --> 00:56:15.576
♪ Nobody else does
what she does to me ♪
00:56:15.610 --> 00:56:18.813
♪ When she shakes
that thang... ♪
00:56:19.814 --> 00:56:21.381
Sancholo.
00:56:25.485 --> 00:56:26.554
Whoa, whoa, whoa!
00:56:26.587 --> 00:56:27.989
- You going over there?
- Yeah.
00:56:28.022 --> 00:56:29.023
You want my gun?
00:56:29.056 --> 00:56:30.157
You brought a gun?
00:56:30.191 --> 00:56:32.026
Didn't I? Phone,
keys, wallet, gun.
00:56:32.059 --> 00:56:33.728
- Yeah.
- No. No.
00:56:33.761 --> 00:56:36.564
♪ Nobody else does
what she does to me ♪
00:56:36.597 --> 00:56:38.733
♪ When she shakes that thang ♪
00:56:38.766 --> 00:56:42.069
♪ Swinging like an
old screen door ♪
00:56:42.103 --> 00:56:45.405
♪ Lord, she makes
that thang... ♪
00:56:46.073 --> 00:56:48.676
Excuse me, are you Sancholo?
00:56:50.211 --> 00:56:51.788
I was hoping to talk
to you for a second.
00:56:51.812 --> 00:56:53.180
You a cop?
00:56:53.214 --> 00:56:54.815
Not a cop.
00:56:54.849 --> 00:56:56.550
Cop don't have to
say he's a cop.
00:56:56.584 --> 00:56:58.619
Then why did you ask?
00:56:58.653 --> 00:57:00.197
- Right?
- 'Cause you're wasting my time.
00:57:00.221 --> 00:57:02.857
Figured I might as
well waste yours.
00:57:02.890 --> 00:57:04.091
Look, I'm a journalist.
00:57:04.125 --> 00:57:05.860
I'm doing a story.
00:57:05.893 --> 00:57:07.638
I was really only hoping to
ask you a couple of questions.
00:57:07.662 --> 00:57:09.206
- I'm just trying to...
- Just trying to what?
00:57:09.230 --> 00:57:10.865
- Fucking killer!
- Hey, Ty. Relax!
00:57:10.898 --> 00:57:14.502
Guys, guys, guys, guys.
Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys.
00:57:14.535 --> 00:57:17.538
Go easy on him. He
just lost his sister.
00:57:18.539 --> 00:57:20.473
Most beautiful girl in Texas.
00:57:20.508 --> 00:57:22.475
So what I heard was that
you were at the party
00:57:22.510 --> 00:57:23.911
where she died.
00:57:23.945 --> 00:57:25.579
Lucky me.
00:57:25.613 --> 00:57:27.748
She took her last breath
00:57:27.782 --> 00:57:29.583
on my shoulder.
00:57:32.086 --> 00:57:33.688
My name is Ben Manalowitz.
00:57:33.721 --> 00:57:35.589
I'm doing a podcast
about Abilene.
00:57:35.623 --> 00:57:38.726
I would love to hear
your side of the story.
00:57:39.593 --> 00:57:40.594
Hey.
00:57:40.628 --> 00:57:42.697
We got a regular Joe Rogan here.
00:57:42.730 --> 00:57:45.166
Joe Rogan meets Seth Rogen.
00:57:50.004 --> 00:57:51.939
Just you.
00:58:27.174 --> 00:58:29.744
When I was in middle school,
00:58:29.777 --> 00:58:33.314
my mom wouldn't let
me read Harry Potter
00:58:33.347 --> 00:58:35.683
because of church stuff.
00:58:35.716 --> 00:58:41.122
So I would call
Abby every night.
00:58:41.155 --> 00:58:43.124
She would read it to me.
00:58:47.728 --> 00:58:50.064
I don't know what made
her care about me.
00:58:50.097 --> 00:58:51.599
I was like, "Why me?
00:58:51.632 --> 00:58:54.168
I'm just an effing
dropout drug dealer."
00:58:54.201 --> 00:58:57.838
She'd say, "Heart sees heart."
00:58:57.872 --> 00:58:59.740
Right.
00:58:59.774 --> 00:59:01.042
She used to text that to me
00:59:01.075 --> 00:59:05.846
every day on that dumbass
little Razr phone.
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:07.281
- You remember those?
- Yeah.
00:59:07.314 --> 00:59:09.750
5-4-5.
00:59:11.018 --> 00:59:12.820
Heart sees heart.
00:59:12.853 --> 00:59:14.889
It was, like, her little code.
00:59:17.391 --> 00:59:19.060
I miss her so much.
00:59:20.694 --> 00:59:23.697
You told me that her last
breath was on your shoulder.
00:59:23.731 --> 00:59:24.932
And other people told me
00:59:24.965 --> 00:59:26.376
that you threw the
party where she died.
00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:29.103
I wasn't even there.
00:59:30.104 --> 00:59:32.039
Okay.
00:59:32.073 --> 00:59:34.108
Where were you?
00:59:39.980 --> 00:59:41.782
Look at the date.
00:59:48.089 --> 00:59:49.190
Where is this?
00:59:49.223 --> 00:59:52.093
Tulsa. I went to see Adele.
00:59:53.761 --> 00:59:55.096
I was there with my niece.
00:59:55.129 --> 00:59:56.831
She... She loves her.
00:59:56.864 --> 00:59:57.932
Adele?
00:59:57.965 --> 00:59:59.834
Obviously, I'm gonna
have to kill you
00:59:59.867 --> 01:00:00.835
if you tell anyone about that.
01:00:00.868 --> 01:00:02.703
No, it's...
01:00:03.304 --> 01:00:04.905
Yeah.
01:00:04.939 --> 01:00:06.907
I'm a fan.
01:00:09.143 --> 01:00:11.679
So...
01:00:11.712 --> 01:00:12.980
you have an alibi,
01:00:13.013 --> 01:00:15.316
but you want people to
think you killed her?
01:00:15.349 --> 01:00:17.118
These fucking cartels, man.
01:00:17.151 --> 01:00:18.895
They're gonna control
everything pretty soon.
01:00:18.919 --> 01:00:21.856
- You're the cartels.
- No, sir.
01:00:21.889 --> 01:00:24.024
It kills me to claim her,
01:00:24.058 --> 01:00:26.727
but I don't know.
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:29.396
If they don't actually
think I killed someone,
01:00:29.430 --> 01:00:32.233
then I might have
to kill someone...
01:00:33.434 --> 01:00:34.835
to prove myself.
01:00:34.869 --> 01:00:36.403
That's not really
how it works, is it?
01:00:36.437 --> 01:00:37.872
It's what I heard.
01:00:37.905 --> 01:00:39.406
Go on Snopes. It's
not a real thing.
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:40.908
Excuse me?
01:00:41.942 --> 01:00:44.278
So, let me piece this
together. She OD'd...
01:00:44.311 --> 01:00:46.156
The fuck? This is Abby we're
talking about here, okay?
01:00:46.180 --> 01:00:47.948
She wouldn't touch the stuff.
01:00:47.982 --> 01:00:49.917
Girl wouldn't touch an Advil.
01:00:51.385 --> 01:00:54.955
Listen, they found her two and
a half miles from the party,
01:00:54.989 --> 01:00:56.690
at a spot where all
the deaths happen
01:00:56.724 --> 01:00:58.025
called "the Afterparty."
01:00:58.058 --> 01:01:01.162
You don't just wander off
like that by yourself.
01:01:01.195 --> 01:01:02.997
Someone takes you there.
01:01:04.465 --> 01:01:06.333
This was no OD.
01:01:06.367 --> 01:01:07.868
No fucking way.
01:01:10.204 --> 01:01:12.273
Who goes to these parties?
01:01:12.306 --> 01:01:13.774
Everybody.
01:01:13.807 --> 01:01:15.943
- Everybody goes. Nobody went.
- Yeah.
01:01:16.944 --> 01:01:19.146
- Same people every time?
- Yes.
01:01:20.881 --> 01:01:22.716
When's the next one?
01:01:23.350 --> 01:01:25.686
Whenever I want.
01:01:34.128 --> 01:01:36.197
You're at 11%, bro.
01:01:36.230 --> 01:01:38.732
You might want to switch
to low power mode.
01:01:39.333 --> 01:01:41.235
Thank you.
01:01:54.381 --> 01:01:55.916
Hello?
01:01:55.950 --> 01:01:57.818
What if she was murdered?
01:01:59.286 --> 01:02:00.955
What?
01:02:00.988 --> 01:02:02.098
We dismissed the
first theory presented
01:02:02.122 --> 01:02:03.490
without even thinking about it.
01:02:03.525 --> 01:02:05.259
What if we're not
taking them seriously?
01:02:05.292 --> 01:02:10.231
Wait, so are you saying the
Mexican drug dealer did it?
01:02:10.264 --> 01:02:11.498
Definitely not that.
01:02:11.533 --> 01:02:13.009
But that was the first
theory presented.
01:02:13.033 --> 01:02:16.103
I'm just sure it wasn't that.
01:02:16.136 --> 01:02:18.239
Why are you so sure?
01:02:18.272 --> 01:02:19.773
Gut.
01:02:19.807 --> 01:02:21.509
- Gut?
- Look,
01:02:21.543 --> 01:02:23.143
I know we liked
what we had before.
01:02:23.177 --> 01:02:26.247
Something about America
and fantasy and regret
01:02:26.280 --> 01:02:27.515
and the meaning of vengeance.
01:02:27.549 --> 01:02:31.018
No, no. This... this is better.
01:02:32.186 --> 01:02:34.154
This just keeps getting
bigger and bigger.
01:02:35.122 --> 01:02:36.257
Right?
01:02:36.290 --> 01:02:37.358
Okay.
01:02:37.391 --> 01:02:39.126
Stay safe.
01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:40.461
Get the story.
01:02:40.494 --> 01:02:41.862
Not in that order.
01:02:41.895 --> 01:02:43.831
No. In that order.
01:03:12.560 --> 01:03:14.529
What are you watching?
01:03:14.562 --> 01:03:18.932
Um, videos of Abilene.
01:03:21.569 --> 01:03:23.904
Do you see my phone?
01:03:24.539 --> 01:03:26.440
How it's, like, cracked.
01:03:26.473 --> 01:03:27.941
Yeah.
01:03:27.975 --> 01:03:31.145
It makes me look
the way that I feel.
01:03:32.614 --> 01:03:35.382
Um...
01:03:37.951 --> 01:03:39.353
Where do I know you from?
01:03:39.386 --> 01:03:40.588
Rodeo.
01:03:40.622 --> 01:03:42.256
It's the Longhorns fan.
01:03:42.289 --> 01:03:44.592
Indeed it is,
Mike. Indeed it is.
01:03:44.626 --> 01:03:46.594
Actually, that was
a misunderstanding.
01:03:46.628 --> 01:03:48.329
I'm sorry. I'm not
even a football fan.
01:03:48.362 --> 01:03:50.331
Um, I was just trying to fit in.
01:03:50.364 --> 01:03:52.199
Funny way to fit in around here.
01:03:52.232 --> 01:03:53.233
Point taken.
01:03:53.267 --> 01:03:55.969
I didn't know there was
gonna be another team.
01:03:56.003 --> 01:03:58.038
I was cheering for Texas.
01:04:00.107 --> 01:04:00.974
Um...
01:04:01.008 --> 01:04:02.876
I'd love to ask you
a couple questions
01:04:02.910 --> 01:04:04.478
about the death of Abilene Shaw.
01:04:04.512 --> 01:04:06.080
- OD'd.
- Accident.
01:04:06.113 --> 01:04:07.357
I know that was the
official report.
01:04:07.381 --> 01:04:09.483
I was wondering, were you
able to talk to anyone
01:04:09.517 --> 01:04:11.151
who was there the
night she died?
01:04:12.086 --> 01:04:14.622
You ever go to a party
out by the pump jacks?
01:04:14.656 --> 01:04:17.958
Everybody goes and
nobody was there.
01:04:17.991 --> 01:04:19.426
I wasn't there.
01:04:19.460 --> 01:04:20.528
I wasn't there.
01:04:22.564 --> 01:04:25.165
Why are you so
interested anyway?
01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:27.401
You her, uh, boyfriend
or something?
01:04:28.402 --> 01:04:31.372
Uh, we hung out.
01:04:31.405 --> 01:04:33.240
Yeah. Yeah, I was her boyfriend.
01:04:33.273 --> 01:04:35.686
Well, you know, 90% of the time
it's the boyfriend who did it.
01:04:35.710 --> 01:04:37.387
Okay, I wasn't... I wasn't
really her boyfriend.
01:04:37.411 --> 01:04:39.980
His story's starting to
sound a little inconsistent.
01:04:40.013 --> 01:04:41.982
Swiss cheese.
01:04:42.015 --> 01:04:44.686
Yeah, um, I'm not trying
to cause any problems here.
01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:46.359
I'm really just trying
to help the family.
01:04:46.387 --> 01:04:48.656
You know, this isn't even
our jurisdiction anyways.
01:04:50.157 --> 01:04:51.468
Party happened
outside city limits.
01:04:51.492 --> 01:04:53.460
- Mm.
- That's county, not city.
01:04:53.494 --> 01:04:55.062
- County sheriff.
- Sheriff'll talk.
01:04:55.095 --> 01:04:56.430
Sheriff's a politician.
01:04:56.463 --> 01:04:58.232
Ain't that a fact.
01:04:58.265 --> 01:05:00.934
I'd love to help you, son, but
our policy is we can't comment
01:05:00.968 --> 01:05:03.003
on our process or cases.
01:05:03.036 --> 01:05:06.106
Well, I was interviewing
people for a podcast
01:05:06.140 --> 01:05:07.685
that could be heard
by millions of people.
01:05:07.709 --> 01:05:10.911
But I guess that's
not a possibility.
01:05:11.579 --> 01:05:12.647
These are oxy sticks.
01:05:12.680 --> 01:05:14.281
See how the pills
are squared off?
01:05:14.314 --> 01:05:16.551
That way, they can pack
'em in boxes to the corners
01:05:16.584 --> 01:05:18.686
- without wasting any space.
- Mm-hmm.
01:05:18.720 --> 01:05:20.555
That's how big this business is.
01:05:20.588 --> 01:05:22.156
We don't know who's shipping it.
01:05:22.189 --> 01:05:23.734
All we know is they're
coming along the interstate
01:05:23.758 --> 01:05:25.259
right along the border.
01:05:25.292 --> 01:05:27.428
And that route cuts
right by the oil field
01:05:27.461 --> 01:05:29.029
where the party was.
01:05:29.062 --> 01:05:30.541
The most common overdose
spot in the county.
01:05:30.565 --> 01:05:32.667
We call it "the Afterparty."
01:05:32.700 --> 01:05:34.968
Very common thing, sad to say.
01:05:36.036 --> 01:05:37.572
What's this right here?
01:05:37.605 --> 01:05:40.307
Looks like two pairs of prints.
01:05:40.340 --> 01:05:41.341
Cowboy boots.
01:05:42.544 --> 01:05:45.312
Calling out an APB to find
two men wearing cowboy boots.
01:05:48.348 --> 01:05:50.050
- Okay.
- What the fuck?
01:05:50.083 --> 01:05:52.186
Stand down.
01:05:52.219 --> 01:05:54.556
Son, I wish you
well, I really do.
01:05:54.589 --> 01:05:56.056
And bless your little heart,
01:05:56.089 --> 01:05:58.225
but this ain't even our
jurisdiction, though.
01:05:59.059 --> 01:06:00.160
- It's not?
- No, sir.
01:06:00.194 --> 01:06:02.062
This was along the highway.
01:06:02.095 --> 01:06:04.131
You want to talk
to highway patrol.
01:06:05.332 --> 01:06:07.076
Well, ain't that just like a
sheriff to puff his hot air
01:06:07.100 --> 01:06:09.236
and blow you straight
into my office.
01:06:09.269 --> 01:06:10.738
If there's a drug
overdose at a party
01:06:10.772 --> 01:06:12.339
in some fucking field off 29,
01:06:12.372 --> 01:06:14.709
I'm sorry, but we
got shit to do.
01:06:14.742 --> 01:06:16.511
We're not a bunch
of Army rejects
01:06:16.544 --> 01:06:18.412
just gazing at the Rio Grande.
01:06:18.445 --> 01:06:20.558
- I never said that you were.
- I wasn't talking about us.
01:06:20.582 --> 01:06:23.283
Oh, is that what they told
you over at highway patrol?
01:06:23.317 --> 01:06:25.185
Well, you can go
tell Junior Brown
01:06:25.219 --> 01:06:27.221
and the rest of them
glorified meter maids
01:06:27.254 --> 01:06:29.757
that if they spent more
time with their real guns
01:06:29.791 --> 01:06:31.492
and less with their radar guns,
01:06:31.526 --> 01:06:34.261
we might not have to chase
the goddamn Texas syndicate
01:06:34.294 --> 01:06:36.230
up and down the Trans-Pecos!
01:06:36.263 --> 01:06:36.898
Got it?
01:06:36.931 --> 01:06:39.099
Yes. If I find a natural way
01:06:39.132 --> 01:06:40.711
to work that into the
conversation with them,
01:06:40.735 --> 01:06:41.736
I will do that.
01:06:41.769 --> 01:06:43.638
- DRT.
- DRT.
01:06:43.671 --> 01:06:45.507
- DRT.
- Dead right there.
01:06:45.540 --> 01:06:48.475
Law enforcement
was no help at all.
01:06:48.510 --> 01:06:51.779
You're learning a lot
down there, aren't you?
01:06:51.813 --> 01:06:54.181
The murder or overdose
happened where a lot
01:06:54.214 --> 01:06:55.650
of these things happen.
01:06:55.683 --> 01:06:57.661
At the intersection of four
overlapping jurisdictions.
01:06:57.685 --> 01:06:59.152
So they all kicked
it to each other.
01:06:59.186 --> 01:07:01.054
What are the odds?
01:07:01.088 --> 01:07:03.758
What are the odds?
01:07:03.791 --> 01:07:05.527
Okay, I'm gonna kick this around
01:07:05.560 --> 01:07:08.161
with the team for a little
bit, shake up the Boggle board,
01:07:08.195 --> 01:07:11.131
and then I'm gonna hit up
Robin to get her thoughts.
01:07:11.164 --> 01:07:13.133
All right. Thanks,
Eloise. Thanks, everybody.
01:07:13.166 --> 01:07:15.369
- Bye, Ben.
- Bye, Ben.
01:07:19.373 --> 01:07:23.477
Um, you're probably not
even gonna watch this,
01:07:23.511 --> 01:07:29.249
but I'm back home in
Texas, and I'm bored.
01:07:29.283 --> 01:07:31.084
This is my little
brother, Mason.
01:07:31.118 --> 01:07:32.352
He sleeps on my floor
01:07:32.386 --> 01:07:34.087
because he's afraid of ghosts.
01:07:34.121 --> 01:07:36.290
And I tried to tell him
01:07:36.323 --> 01:07:38.492
there's no such thing
as ghosts, but whatever.
01:07:38.526 --> 01:07:40.728
It keeps him close to me.
01:07:41.629 --> 01:07:44.331
So I guess it's not
all bad being here.
01:07:45.399 --> 01:07:47.100
That's, um...
01:07:47.134 --> 01:07:49.136
Well, that's it.
01:07:56.476 --> 01:07:58.211
Mason.
01:07:58.846 --> 01:08:00.515
Yes, sir?
01:08:04.752 --> 01:08:06.754
Just saying good night.
01:08:06.788 --> 01:08:10.490
You woke me up just
to say good night?
01:08:11.626 --> 01:08:13.427
Yes, sir.
01:08:17.599 --> 01:08:20.334
I love you mucho.
01:08:21.836 --> 01:08:23.605
Collective consciousness.
01:08:23.638 --> 01:08:25.840
If everyone believes
the same thing...
01:08:28.408 --> 01:08:30.344
but without any
facts to support it,
01:08:30.377 --> 01:08:32.914
do we listen to that
intuition or dismiss it?
01:08:32.947 --> 01:08:34.515
An overdose?
01:08:34.549 --> 01:08:36.259
Girl never took so much
as an Advil in her life.
01:08:36.283 --> 01:08:37.785
She never touched
so much as an Advil.
01:08:37.819 --> 01:08:40.187
You ever go to a party
out by the pump jacks?
01:08:40.220 --> 01:08:41.355
Everybody goes. Nobody went.
01:08:41.388 --> 01:08:42.489
I wasn't there.
01:08:44.257 --> 01:08:45.769
The problem is you
get all these bright,
01:08:45.793 --> 01:08:47.638
creative lights and nowhere
to plug in their energy.
01:08:47.662 --> 01:08:49.831
And so it gets channeled
into conspiracy theories
01:08:49.864 --> 01:08:51.498
and drugs and violence.
01:08:51.532 --> 01:08:53.333
I came here to find
out why people in grief
01:08:53.367 --> 01:08:55.770
would choose to believe a myth.
01:08:55.803 --> 01:08:57.772
I don't know shit about
how this all connects,
01:08:57.805 --> 01:08:58.849
but you bet your ass it does.
01:08:58.873 --> 01:09:01.208
MS-13? La Línea?
01:09:01.241 --> 01:09:03.243
Yeah, I'm familiar
with La Línea.
01:09:03.276 --> 01:09:05.278
They actually murdered
41 journalists last year.
01:09:05.312 --> 01:09:06.748
Oh, they've done
bad things, too.
01:09:13.821 --> 01:09:15.455
But now I find myself wondering
01:09:15.489 --> 01:09:18.826
how much truth might be
embedded in that intuition.
01:09:18.860 --> 01:09:20.671
You don't happen to know
her phone password, do you?
01:09:20.695 --> 01:09:23.330
Took it to every Geek
Squad in the state.
01:09:23.363 --> 01:09:24.699
It's impossible to crack.
01:09:24.732 --> 01:09:26.477
- This ain't us.
- You got the wrong department.
01:09:26.501 --> 01:09:28.603
- Highway patrol. -Mike and Dan.
- Border patrol.
01:09:28.636 --> 01:09:30.337
- Sheriff's department.
- You want county.
01:09:30.370 --> 01:09:31.939
Everything's bigger in Texas,
01:09:31.973 --> 01:09:35.810
including your expectations
and its reality.
01:09:35.843 --> 01:09:38.278
I'm your host, Ben Manalowitz,
01:09:38.311 --> 01:09:40.247
and from American
Radio Collective,
01:09:40.280 --> 01:09:42.884
this is Abilene.
01:09:42.917 --> 01:09:43.918
Hey.
01:09:43.951 --> 01:09:45.887
Guess who's on the line.
01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:47.421
Hey. It's Robin.
01:09:47.454 --> 01:09:48.723
I produce American Moment.
01:09:48.756 --> 01:09:50.725
Yeah. I-I know who you are.
01:09:50.758 --> 01:09:52.503
It's-it's, um... It's
great to meet you, Robin.
01:09:52.527 --> 01:09:54.361
- How are you?
- Great to talk to you.
01:09:54.394 --> 01:09:56.698
I love what you're doing
with Dead White Girl.
01:09:56.731 --> 01:09:58.733
Thank you. Thank you so much.
01:09:58.766 --> 01:10:00.968
Eloise pitched that we
use some of the story
01:10:01.002 --> 01:10:03.004
as a segment on American Moment,
01:10:03.037 --> 01:10:04.906
and that would help
promote your series.
01:10:04.939 --> 01:10:06.974
Wow. So it'd be on
American Moment.
01:10:07.008 --> 01:10:08.976
Everything you're
getting is great.
01:10:09.010 --> 01:10:10.611
The characters are amazing.
01:10:10.645 --> 01:10:12.388
Yeah. No, I mean, the
characters are unbelievable.
01:10:12.412 --> 01:10:13.715
Ty is just a total firecracker.
01:10:13.748 --> 01:10:15.850
And Granny deserves
her own show.
01:10:15.883 --> 01:10:18.452
And then Abilene, I mean...
01:10:18.485 --> 01:10:20.487
The more people hear her voice,
01:10:20.521 --> 01:10:22.456
the more they're gonna
fall in love with her.
01:10:22.489 --> 01:10:24.659
So if you think you can
tighten up what you have,
01:10:24.692 --> 01:10:27.695
we can work it into
Sunday's episode.
01:10:28.663 --> 01:10:30.631
Yeah. I... Absolutely.
01:10:30.665 --> 01:10:31.866
I'd love to.
01:10:31.899 --> 01:10:33.668
Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I can do that.
01:10:33.701 --> 01:10:35.937
Can I ask what you're eating?
01:10:35.970 --> 01:10:37.772
This is, um, Frito pie.
01:10:37.805 --> 01:10:38.906
It's great sound.
01:10:38.940 --> 01:10:40.273
What is that?
01:10:40.307 --> 01:10:41.943
Uh, Frito pie
01:10:41.976 --> 01:10:44.344
is when they cut
open a bag of Fritos
01:10:44.377 --> 01:10:45.613
and they pour chili in it.
01:10:45.646 --> 01:10:46.957
Then you eat it out of
the bag with a fork.
01:10:46.981 --> 01:10:48.049
Ugh. That is disgusting.
01:10:48.082 --> 01:10:49.517
Yeah, in a good way.
01:10:51.384 --> 01:10:53.688
Ben, are you there?
01:10:53.721 --> 01:10:56.791
Ben, did I lose you?
01:11:03.030 --> 01:11:05.633
What happened to you, son?
01:11:06.667 --> 01:11:08.803
My Prius exploded.
01:11:08.836 --> 01:11:10.303
Mm-hmm.
01:11:14.374 --> 01:11:15.977
Oh, thank heavens.
Are you all right?
01:11:16.010 --> 01:11:17.578
Hey.
01:11:17.612 --> 01:11:19.080
- Yeah.
- Oh, look at that.
01:11:19.113 --> 01:11:20.648
- Oh, hey.
- What happened?
01:11:20.681 --> 01:11:23.450
- I'm fine.
- His car blew up, Mom!
01:11:23.483 --> 01:11:24.786
Oh, it's so fucked up! This...
01:11:24.819 --> 01:11:26.386
- Tyler Clayton!
- Sorry.
01:11:26.419 --> 01:11:27.765
We're just so grateful
you're all right.
01:11:27.789 --> 01:11:30.323
Oh, my God. What if you
were driving a real car
01:11:30.357 --> 01:11:31.526
with gas and stuff?
01:11:33.060 --> 01:11:34.529
Yeah.
01:11:34.562 --> 01:11:36.831
Ben, this is a message
that we're getting close.
01:11:36.864 --> 01:11:41.301
Or it's kids fucking around
for no reason with Tannerite.
01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:47.608
I can't believe you're all here.
01:11:47.642 --> 01:11:50.477
Well, where else would we be?
01:11:50.511 --> 01:11:52.847
Come on. The girls are
waiting in the car.
01:11:53.848 --> 01:11:55.382
Let's go.
01:11:55.415 --> 01:11:56.493
- Hey, are you limping?
- No.
01:11:56.517 --> 01:11:57.819
You sure about that?
01:11:57.852 --> 01:11:59.596
- Come on, Mama.
- Yeah. His face looks all right.
01:11:59.620 --> 01:12:01.656
- He's gonna be all right.
- Yeah, I seen worse.
01:12:01.689 --> 01:12:03.490
Come on, buddy.
01:12:03.524 --> 01:12:04.992
- How is everything?
- So good.
01:12:05.026 --> 01:12:06.561
This is our friend Ben.
01:12:06.594 --> 01:12:08.830
And this is his first
time at Whataburger.
01:12:11.132 --> 01:12:12.700
- Let's have a toast.
- Thank you.
01:12:12.733 --> 01:12:14.434
- To Ben. -Come on, to Ben.
- To Ben.
01:12:14.467 --> 01:12:15.579
- Whataburger, Whataburger.
- To a good milkshake.
01:12:15.603 --> 01:12:16.871
- Whoopah.
- Over there.
01:12:16.904 --> 01:12:17.905
Thanks.
01:12:18.973 --> 01:12:22.076
Well, what do you think?
01:12:22.109 --> 01:12:23.845
I love this.
01:12:23.878 --> 01:12:25.146
You do?
01:12:25.179 --> 01:12:28.850
And it's always right there.
01:12:34.522 --> 01:12:36.691
- Excuse me, Mama.
- Ooh.
01:12:36.724 --> 01:12:38.391
Mm.
01:12:38.425 --> 01:12:39.961
It's a Texas thing.
01:12:39.994 --> 01:12:41.638
You're not supposed to do it,
but you're supposed to do it.
01:12:41.662 --> 01:12:43.731
You're supposed to
take your lucky number,
01:12:43.764 --> 01:12:46.000
but we figure every
number's lucky to somebody,
01:12:46.033 --> 01:12:47.602
so we take all of 'em.
01:12:47.635 --> 01:12:49.103
I won't tell Mike and Dan.
01:12:49.136 --> 01:12:50.403
Like they'd do anything.
01:12:50.437 --> 01:12:51.906
They'd say it was an accident.
01:12:53.174 --> 01:12:54.642
Party tonight.
01:12:54.675 --> 01:12:56.878
- Oh, what's the dress code?
- Ugh.
01:12:56.911 --> 01:12:58.846
Broncos and buckle bunnies.
01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:00.557
Ugh. You know, they're
seriously phoning it in
01:13:00.581 --> 01:13:01.916
with the themes nowadays.
01:13:01.949 --> 01:13:03.150
You want to come tonight?
01:13:03.184 --> 01:13:04.151
You can borrow something
from my closet.
01:13:04.185 --> 01:13:05.686
You're okay to go?
01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:08.455
It doesn't stir up too
many feelings for you?
01:13:10.157 --> 01:13:12.059
You gotta keep living life.
01:13:12.093 --> 01:13:13.694
Like Catherine the Great said,
01:13:13.728 --> 01:13:15.930
"You gotta get right
back under the horse."
01:13:16.797 --> 01:13:18.733
Tyler Clayton.
- What?
01:13:18.766 --> 01:13:22.169
I-I listened to that history
podcast you recommended.
01:13:22.203 --> 01:13:23.638
I've got a question for you.
01:13:23.671 --> 01:13:26.040
Have you got family in Texas?
01:13:26.073 --> 01:13:27.675
No.
01:13:27.708 --> 01:13:29.510
You do now.
01:13:29.543 --> 01:13:31.579
- Isn't that right, everybody?
- Yes, ma'am.
01:13:31.612 --> 01:13:34.081
Careful what you wish for, Ben.
01:13:37.952 --> 01:13:39.654
One second.
01:13:39.687 --> 01:13:41.454
Who's got a honey
thing over there?
01:13:41.488 --> 01:13:43.991
- Um, I got some right here.
- Anybody? Mmm, mmm, mmm.
01:13:44.025 --> 01:13:46.527
- Hey. What's up?
- Hey.
01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:47.929
Your car blew up?
01:13:47.962 --> 01:13:49.664
Are you okay?
01:13:49.697 --> 01:13:50.731
Yeah. Yes.
01:13:50.765 --> 01:13:53.200
I mean, I wish I got that
extra rental insurance
01:13:53.234 --> 01:13:55.468
that no one ever
gets, but I'm fine.
01:13:55.503 --> 01:13:57.238
Good. Well, listen,
I finished it,
01:13:57.271 --> 01:13:58.639
and everyone loves it.
01:13:58.673 --> 01:14:00.207
Thanks. What do you
mean "finished it"?
01:14:00.241 --> 01:14:01.809
You're clearly in danger,
01:14:01.842 --> 01:14:04.679
and you've already got
everything you need.
01:14:04.712 --> 01:14:08.082
Well, I didn't solve the murder.
01:14:08.115 --> 01:14:09.850
It's better this way.
01:14:09.884 --> 01:14:12.887
You know, an ambiguous
ending without resolution.
01:14:12.920 --> 01:14:17.158
That's... that's the secret
weapon with a story like this.
01:14:17.191 --> 01:14:18.526
It gnaws at you.
01:14:18.559 --> 01:14:21.162
It haunts you forever.
01:14:21.195 --> 01:14:22.563
You never let it go.
01:14:22.596 --> 01:14:23.707
No, there's more to it, Eloise.
01:14:23.731 --> 01:14:24.966
I-I'm getting so close.
01:14:24.999 --> 01:14:26.701
As much as we'd love to see you
01:14:26.734 --> 01:14:28.703
- blown up for a story...
- No, no.
01:14:28.736 --> 01:14:30.237
My conscience tells me
01:14:30.271 --> 01:14:32.173
I have to choose a
person over a story.
01:14:32.206 --> 01:14:33.908
No.
01:14:33.941 --> 01:14:35.009
No, no.
01:14:35.042 --> 01:14:38.713
Otherwise, it would take,
like, two years of therapy
01:14:38.746 --> 01:14:41.115
to justify it, and...
01:14:41.148 --> 01:14:43.551
I can't afford that on my plan.
01:14:43.584 --> 01:14:46.020
Look, you're gonna
be huge from this.
01:14:46.053 --> 01:14:47.188
Okay?
01:14:47.221 --> 01:14:48.255
Come home.
01:14:52.827 --> 01:14:54.996
- You remember?
- Hey, you.
01:14:55.029 --> 01:14:56.764
Hey. Sorry about that.
01:14:56.797 --> 01:14:58.265
Who was that?
01:14:58.299 --> 01:15:00.267
Friend.
01:15:00.301 --> 01:15:02.003
Was it Equinox Girl Cute?
01:15:02.036 --> 01:15:03.804
Or was it Natalie Bumble?
01:15:03.838 --> 01:15:05.740
Uh, it was, uh, my
podcast producer.
01:15:05.773 --> 01:15:08.743
Uh, and everything's on track.
01:15:08.776 --> 01:15:10.277
You're very sweet to ask.
01:15:10.311 --> 01:15:12.213
I love you mucho.
01:15:12.246 --> 01:15:14.715
We're so lucky
you found Abilene.
01:15:15.649 --> 01:15:18.085
I really don't know
what she saw in me.
01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:19.286
I do.
01:15:19.320 --> 01:15:21.655
I get it. I totally get it.
01:15:22.590 --> 01:15:24.558
- Heart sees heart.
- Oh.
01:15:25.359 --> 01:15:30.064
You know, when I came down here
to spend time with Abby's...
01:15:30.097 --> 01:15:31.632
"Crazy Texan family," right?
01:15:31.665 --> 01:15:32.967
Yeah.
01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:37.038
Uh, I never thought
it would be like this.
01:15:37.071 --> 01:15:38.773
People can surprise you.
01:15:38.806 --> 01:15:40.174
Yeah.
01:15:40.207 --> 01:15:41.642
Like Abilene.
01:15:41.675 --> 01:15:43.077
I mean, she was
full of surprises.
01:15:43.110 --> 01:15:44.712
- Like Abilene.
- Mm-hmm.
01:15:44.745 --> 01:15:48.182
Great reputation, but
a huge pill-popper.
01:15:53.254 --> 01:15:55.189
What?
01:15:55.222 --> 01:15:56.724
What'd you just say?
01:15:56.757 --> 01:15:59.060
Mm. Put that in
your podcast, maybe.
01:15:59.093 --> 01:16:00.361
Where'd you hear that?
01:16:00.394 --> 01:16:02.630
The girls told me.
01:16:08.135 --> 01:16:10.805
Ty told us not to say anything.
01:16:24.685 --> 01:16:26.854
Are you fucking serious?
01:16:27.755 --> 01:16:30.357
I thought you wouldn't
do this with me
01:16:30.391 --> 01:16:32.093
if you knew that she was using.
01:16:32.126 --> 01:16:33.761
You think?
01:16:33.794 --> 01:16:35.038
Drugs was something Abilene did.
01:16:35.062 --> 01:16:36.297
It's not who she was.
01:16:36.330 --> 01:16:37.765
But it is how she died,
01:16:37.798 --> 01:16:39.867
which is what we
were investigating.
01:16:39.900 --> 01:16:41.268
I thought there
was more to this.
01:16:41.302 --> 01:16:42.779
I thought that you and I
would get to know each other,
01:16:42.803 --> 01:16:44.071
and that would be cool.
01:16:44.105 --> 01:16:46.373
I... Maybe it was part
of the grieving process.
01:16:46.407 --> 01:16:47.975
Denial?
01:16:48.008 --> 01:16:50.044
Isn't that one of the
12 steps of grief?
01:16:50.077 --> 01:16:52.379
It's five stages of grief,
12 steps to recovery,
01:16:52.413 --> 01:16:54.148
but I understand
that everyone here
01:16:54.181 --> 01:16:55.292
is more familiar
with the latter.
01:16:55.316 --> 01:16:56.650
It's complicated.
01:16:56.684 --> 01:16:58.028
It's not. It's
actually very simple.
01:16:58.052 --> 01:17:01.288
Everything here is
actually really simple,
01:17:01.322 --> 01:17:03.190
and maybe that's why
it took me so long
01:17:03.224 --> 01:17:04.758
to understand it.
01:17:06.026 --> 01:17:07.328
Well, I was following my heart,
01:17:07.361 --> 01:17:09.130
and that's what
we do around here.
01:17:09.163 --> 01:17:11.031
You follow your heart.
01:17:11.065 --> 01:17:12.633
Yeah.
01:17:13.334 --> 01:17:15.269
Well, maybe it's
time to look around
01:17:15.302 --> 01:17:18.305
and ask yourselves how
that's working out for you.
01:17:18.339 --> 01:17:21.742
Maybe you should try following
your brain for a change.
01:17:21.775 --> 01:17:24.011
Because when you
follow your heart,
01:17:24.044 --> 01:17:25.679
the Earth is flat,
01:17:25.713 --> 01:17:27.281
climate change is a hoax,
01:17:27.314 --> 01:17:30.151
vaccines contain microchips,
01:17:30.184 --> 01:17:33.754
and Mexican drug dealers
killed your sister.
01:17:33.787 --> 01:17:36.891
You invent these insane
fucking narratives
01:17:36.924 --> 01:17:39.160
to explain why your
lives are such shit shows
01:17:39.193 --> 01:17:42.096
because the truth is too
scary for you to face,
01:17:42.129 --> 01:17:44.899
which is that you
did it to yourselves.
01:17:44.932 --> 01:17:47.735
Do you know what people say
about you guys where I'm from?
01:17:47.768 --> 01:17:50.304
- Let me guess. Bad things.
- No. Worse.
01:17:50.337 --> 01:17:52.273
We say good things.
01:17:52.306 --> 01:17:53.474
"We took them seriously
01:17:53.508 --> 01:17:54.718
when we should've
taken them literally."
01:17:54.742 --> 01:17:55.876
You're neither.
01:17:55.910 --> 01:17:57.444
You're not serious people.
01:17:57.478 --> 01:17:59.780
And maybe it's time for you all
01:17:59.813 --> 01:18:01.815
to take us seriously
and literally
01:18:01.849 --> 01:18:04.885
because where I'm from
is fun and interesting.
01:18:04.919 --> 01:18:07.855
And the people are
rich and diverse,
01:18:07.888 --> 01:18:12.793
and, meanwhile, your
town looks like this!
01:18:12.826 --> 01:18:14.228
Bless your heart.
01:18:14.261 --> 01:18:15.438
Oh, and I know what that means.
01:18:15.462 --> 01:18:17.498
So you know what?
Bless your heart.
01:18:17.532 --> 01:18:20.100
Bless your heart.
Bless all your hearts.
01:18:20.134 --> 01:18:22.203
All your hearts can
go bless themselves.
01:18:22.236 --> 01:18:24.471
Who are you to talk to us?
01:18:24.506 --> 01:18:28.175
I had to drag you to
her fucking funeral!
01:18:30.477 --> 01:18:34.014
Who are you?
01:18:34.048 --> 01:18:36.083
If your car would've
blown up in Brooklyn,
01:18:36.116 --> 01:18:40.955
would anyone... Anyone
come to help you?
01:18:40.988 --> 01:18:43.324
First of all, I wouldn't have
needed a car in Brooklyn.
01:18:43.357 --> 01:18:46.360
Second, if I had one, I doubt
it would've been blown up
01:18:46.393 --> 01:18:48.862
by God knows who.
01:18:48.896 --> 01:18:50.898
I don't understand you people.
01:18:50.931 --> 01:18:52.866
"You people" is a
microaggression.
01:18:52.900 --> 01:18:54.802
My apologies. Y'all.
01:18:54.835 --> 01:18:57.137
"Y'all" is a cultural
appropriation.
01:18:57.171 --> 01:18:59.139
Paris...
01:18:59.173 --> 01:19:02.476
you accusing someone of
cultural appropriation
01:19:02.510 --> 01:19:04.478
is cultural appropriation.
01:19:04.512 --> 01:19:07.381
Why wouldn't you look after her?
01:19:07.414 --> 01:19:09.250
Check in on her?
01:19:09.283 --> 01:19:11.785
You wouldn't do anything
for her, would you?
01:19:11.819 --> 01:19:14.021
That's right. I wouldn't.
01:19:14.054 --> 01:19:16.558
I was hooking up with
different people,
01:19:16.591 --> 01:19:18.993
and I assumed she was, too,
01:19:19.026 --> 01:19:22.296
because I live in
the real world,
01:19:22.329 --> 01:19:25.032
and that's what everybody does.
01:19:25.065 --> 01:19:27.835
I tried to tell you
this when you called.
01:19:27.868 --> 01:19:29.803
She wasn't my girlfriend.
01:19:29.837 --> 01:19:32.940
She was just a girl in my phone.
01:19:40.948 --> 01:19:43.050
Now you've been in a fight.
01:19:56.063 --> 01:19:58.065
I don't know the whole story...
01:19:59.466 --> 01:20:01.201
but life is complicated.
01:20:01.235 --> 01:20:04.204
Even around here, if
you can believe that.
01:20:05.472 --> 01:20:07.341
I'll tell you what I think.
01:20:08.610 --> 01:20:12.012
I think people don't
do drugs for no reason.
01:20:12.046 --> 01:20:14.315
They do drugs because
they're in pain.
01:20:14.348 --> 01:20:16.183
Pain like...
01:20:16.216 --> 01:20:19.219
like maybe caring for someone
who hardly knows your name.
01:20:20.622 --> 01:20:22.956
So, I don't know, Ben.
01:20:22.990 --> 01:20:25.326
But if you're still looking
for someone to blame
01:20:25.359 --> 01:20:27.928
for what happened...
01:20:27.961 --> 01:20:31.231
you may not have needed
to come all this way.
01:20:35.269 --> 01:20:37.204
Bless your heart.
01:21:40.167 --> 01:21:42.236
You were right, Eloise.
01:21:42.269 --> 01:21:45.005
I was the story.
01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:47.575
A self-absorbed know-it-all
01:21:47.609 --> 01:21:52.246
thinks he's gonna figure
out the meaning of America,
01:21:52.279 --> 01:21:55.916
and all he learns
is how empty he is.
01:21:57.752 --> 01:22:00.320
I was the one living a myth.
01:22:03.023 --> 01:22:06.193
They say you regret the
things you don't do.
01:22:07.595 --> 01:22:09.963
I didn't love.
01:22:13.066 --> 01:22:15.570
I have no story.
01:22:15.603 --> 01:22:18.238
I guess that's the story.
01:22:18.272 --> 01:22:21.975
I am the story, and
the story sucks.
01:22:22.009 --> 01:22:25.012
The story is nothing.
01:22:25.647 --> 01:22:28.182
I'm coming home.
01:22:32.486 --> 01:22:34.589
I'm scared.
01:22:34.622 --> 01:22:36.558
What are you scared of?
01:22:36.591 --> 01:22:38.492
Ghosts.
01:22:38.526 --> 01:22:40.394
Ghosts aren't real.
01:22:40.427 --> 01:22:44.164
If they're not real, how come
everyone knows what they are?
01:22:44.198 --> 01:22:48.101
They're real as an idea,
but they're not real, real.
01:22:48.135 --> 01:22:52.039
That's what's scary about
ghosts, that they aren't real.
01:22:52.072 --> 01:22:53.340
If ghosts were real,
01:22:53.373 --> 01:22:55.209
they wouldn't be
scary at all, right?
01:22:55.242 --> 01:22:58.680
We would just smile
and say, "Hi, ghosts."
01:22:58.713 --> 01:23:00.080
Hi, ghosts.
01:23:01.482 --> 01:23:03.283
Hi, ghost.
01:23:04.251 --> 01:23:06.353
Wouldn't that be cool?
01:23:06.386 --> 01:23:08.222
If when someone
wasn't there anymore,
01:23:08.255 --> 01:23:11.024
there was still a
little piece of them
01:23:11.058 --> 01:23:13.628
that could surprise
you sometimes?
01:23:13.661 --> 01:23:15.763
Yeah.
01:23:15.797 --> 01:23:18.766
But there's not,
there's nothing.
01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:21.134
And that's what's
scary about ghosts.
01:23:21.168 --> 01:23:25.507
That the little piece of someone
01:23:25.540 --> 01:23:28.510
that feels like it
might still be there
01:23:28.543 --> 01:23:31.011
isn't there at all.
01:23:34.549 --> 01:23:36.250
Do you feel better?
01:23:36.283 --> 01:23:38.252
No.
01:23:38.853 --> 01:23:41.188
Me neither.
01:23:44.759 --> 01:23:46.561
Thanks for listening.
01:23:49.096 --> 01:23:52.032
I'm leaving tomorrow, Mason.
01:23:52.734 --> 01:23:54.569
I love you mucho.
01:23:54.602 --> 01:23:56.571
1-4-3-5.
01:23:56.604 --> 01:23:58.272
What?
01:23:58.305 --> 01:23:59.072
1-4-3-5.
01:23:59.106 --> 01:24:01.408
It's what Abby
used to say to me.
01:24:01.441 --> 01:24:04.612
She used to say,
"I love you mucho,"
01:24:04.646 --> 01:24:05.813
but then she shortened it.
01:24:05.847 --> 01:24:08.081
So it was kind of
like a secret code
01:24:08.115 --> 01:24:09.292
'cause that's the
number of letters
01:24:09.316 --> 01:24:11.318
in "I love you mucho."
01:24:12.152 --> 01:24:14.656
1-4-3-5.
01:25:42.810 --> 01:25:45.245
Hello?
01:25:45.278 --> 01:25:46.714
This is beautiful.
01:25:46.748 --> 01:25:48.382
What is?
01:25:48.983 --> 01:25:50.551
What you just recorded.
01:25:50.585 --> 01:25:52.687
Your concluding piece.
01:25:52.720 --> 01:25:55.288
It's what we talked
about from the beginning.
01:25:55.322 --> 01:25:58.158
It's disconnection, myth...
01:25:58.893 --> 01:26:02.162
Uh, stories are always
personal, but...
01:26:03.564 --> 01:26:05.399
this is you.
01:26:06.333 --> 01:26:08.402
You know, it's so you.
01:26:08.435 --> 01:26:11.405
It's kind of... everyone.
01:26:11.438 --> 01:26:13.407
You didn't lock
that yet, did you?
01:26:13.440 --> 01:26:14.942
No, not till the morning.
01:26:14.976 --> 01:26:16.587
It's on the server if
you want to check it out.
01:26:16.611 --> 01:26:18.680
Great, great. Uh, just-just
don't touch it tonight.
01:26:18.713 --> 01:26:21.314
There's, uh... It's not 100%.
01:26:21.348 --> 01:26:23.551
There's a tiny
piece I'm gonna add.
01:26:23.584 --> 01:26:26.253
No, don't touch it. It's great.
01:26:26.286 --> 01:26:27.755
You're only gonna
fuck it up. Don't.
01:26:29.924 --> 01:26:31.626
Where are you right now?
01:26:31.659 --> 01:26:33.661
Uh, I'm in an Uber.
01:26:34.461 --> 01:26:37.699
Well, anyway, good job.
01:26:37.732 --> 01:26:40.702
People are gonna love this.
01:26:40.735 --> 01:26:42.804
I didn't know you had it in you.
01:26:42.837 --> 01:26:44.839
Or maybe I did.
01:26:44.872 --> 01:26:46.941
Heart sees heart, right?
01:26:46.974 --> 01:26:48.609
Okay, all right.
01:26:48.643 --> 01:26:51.244
All right, just wait till
the morning, okay? Okay, bye.
01:27:02.389 --> 01:27:04.726
♪ I won't be your chosen one ♪
01:27:04.759 --> 01:27:06.894
♪ I'll just be your fire ♪
01:27:06.928 --> 01:27:08.963
♪ I won't be your favored son ♪
01:27:08.996 --> 01:27:11.264
♪ I'll just be what you desire ♪
01:27:11.298 --> 01:27:13.366
♪ I won't be your superman ♪
01:27:13.400 --> 01:27:15.503
♪ But I'll be your fear ♪
01:27:15.536 --> 01:27:17.605
♪ I won't be your
promised land ♪
01:27:17.638 --> 01:27:19.607
♪ I'll just be the
voice you hear ♪
01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:23.343
♪ Ooh, shot, better
run and hide ♪
01:27:23.376 --> 01:27:28.281
♪ Ooh, shot, got
an evil eye... ♪
01:27:29.349 --> 01:27:31.485
- Don't go anywhere.
- Yes, sir.
01:27:31.519 --> 01:27:36.758
♪ 'Cause, ooh, shot,
got an evil eye, yeah ♪
01:27:45.499 --> 01:27:48.069
Look at him!
01:27:54.509 --> 01:27:57.310
Fuck yeah. Texas Tech
fireworks, bitch.
01:27:57.344 --> 01:27:58.980
Red and black, baby.
01:27:59.013 --> 01:28:00.648
Are you shitting me?
01:28:00.681 --> 01:28:03.017
I told you black fireworks
ain't gonna show, you jackass.
01:28:03.050 --> 01:28:04.652
I can see 'em.
01:28:04.685 --> 01:28:05.820
Oh. Hey.
01:28:05.853 --> 01:28:07.922
It's the Longhorns fan.
01:28:07.955 --> 01:28:09.924
How's your car, man?
01:28:09.957 --> 01:28:11.526
You like what we did to it?
01:28:11.559 --> 01:28:13.561
That was about football?
01:28:13.594 --> 01:28:14.929
Jesus Christ.
01:28:20.400 --> 01:28:22.069
What the fuck are
you doing here?
01:28:22.103 --> 01:28:23.938
I got an invite.
01:28:23.971 --> 01:28:25.348
- Oh, you're wearing my shit.
- Yeah.
01:28:25.372 --> 01:28:26.607
What the fuck?
01:28:26.641 --> 01:28:28.643
Okay, well, it's his hat, so...
01:28:30.745 --> 01:28:31.913
You better be careful.
01:28:31.946 --> 01:28:33.114
That's a loaded gun.
01:28:33.147 --> 01:28:34.582
You keep your gun loaded?
01:28:34.615 --> 01:28:36.483
You keep your phone charged?
01:28:36.517 --> 01:28:38.519
- How'd you even get here?
- Mason drove me.
01:28:38.553 --> 01:28:40.555
Who in the fuck is Mason?
01:28:40.588 --> 01:28:41.956
Mason's your fucking brother.
01:28:41.989 --> 01:28:43.925
I'd watch your back.
01:28:43.958 --> 01:28:45.660
You don't have friends here.
01:28:45.693 --> 01:28:47.695
Look who it is.
01:28:48.830 --> 01:28:50.097
Look who it is.
01:28:50.131 --> 01:28:51.999
- My friend.
- Look at you, bud.
01:28:52.033 --> 01:28:53.901
How you doing?
01:28:53.935 --> 01:28:55.837
How's that podcast coming?
01:28:55.870 --> 01:28:57.738
I sent it in last night.
01:28:59.073 --> 01:29:00.708
You're still here?
01:29:00.741 --> 01:29:02.710
Still here.
01:29:05.478 --> 01:29:07.949
Texas has a pull, doesn't it?
01:29:08.983 --> 01:29:10.651
Kinda gets under your skin.
01:29:10.685 --> 01:29:12.520
Hundred percent.
01:29:12.553 --> 01:29:15.089
Why don't you turn
that thing on?
01:29:15.122 --> 01:29:16.924
Got a story for you.
01:29:16.958 --> 01:29:18.926
Fellas.
01:29:23.731 --> 01:29:29.103
First drug law in the United
States passed in 1875.
01:29:29.136 --> 01:29:30.504
The Chinese rail workers
01:29:30.538 --> 01:29:32.472
- brought in the opium den.
- Mm.
01:29:32.506 --> 01:29:36.476
And this country was
so anti-immigrant
01:29:36.510 --> 01:29:39.747
that they banned the opium den.
01:29:40.548 --> 01:29:42.083
- Not the opium.
- Hmm.
01:29:42.116 --> 01:29:43.618
Right?
01:29:43.651 --> 01:29:45.620
You ever hear anything
more American than that?
01:29:45.653 --> 01:29:47.622
I mean, now we got
an opium epidemic
01:29:47.655 --> 01:29:49.557
breaking out across
the heartland
01:29:49.590 --> 01:29:52.894
with all the ceremony,
majesty, glamour
01:29:52.927 --> 01:29:54.095
and fun's removed.
01:29:54.128 --> 01:29:56.429
And-and that's what
people yearn for.
01:29:56.463 --> 01:29:58.766
You see what I'm saying?
01:29:59.901 --> 01:30:02.937
Do you think Gary Webb
would've won a Pulitzer today?
01:30:04.538 --> 01:30:07.508
You know, I think you were
smart for staying here.
01:30:07.541 --> 01:30:09.677
- Yeah?
- Yeah.
01:30:09.710 --> 01:30:14.081
That story about
Abilene, it's nice.
01:30:15.049 --> 01:30:18.451
I think you were meant
to tell a bigger story.
01:30:18.485 --> 01:30:21.656
Ask yourself, what part
of the country today
01:30:21.689 --> 01:30:24.191
is it in certain
people's interest
01:30:24.225 --> 01:30:26.928
to keep devastated, demoralized,
01:30:26.961 --> 01:30:29.664
dependent and divided?
01:30:29.697 --> 01:30:31.498
You got the opioid crisis,
01:30:31.532 --> 01:30:33.901
nation in divide, civic unrest.
01:30:33.935 --> 01:30:37.505
Why are all these things
happening at the same time?
01:30:37.538 --> 01:30:39.807
What do you really
think is going on here?
01:30:43.678 --> 01:30:46.479
Told you I had a story for you.
01:30:55.623 --> 01:30:57.091
So what are you saying?
01:30:57.124 --> 01:30:58.526
That it all connects?
01:30:58.559 --> 01:31:01.662
That the conspiracy
theories are true?
01:31:01.696 --> 01:31:03.564
What I'm saying is
01:31:03.597 --> 01:31:07.101
people can sense the truth,
01:31:07.134 --> 01:31:09.704
but they're grasping
for the facts.
01:31:09.737 --> 01:31:13.607
See, a myth is just a
truth without facts.
01:31:13.641 --> 01:31:15.977
That's why it comes out
all abstract, gnarled,
01:31:16.010 --> 01:31:17.745
wrong.
01:31:18.546 --> 01:31:19.880
Easy to dismiss and ridicule.
01:31:19.914 --> 01:31:22.149
Nobody listens to them
01:31:22.183 --> 01:31:24.852
because they don't
have the facts.
01:31:26.554 --> 01:31:28.155
But I do.
01:31:28.189 --> 01:31:29.256
And you, Ben...
01:31:29.290 --> 01:31:30.958
Yeah.
01:31:32.626 --> 01:31:35.096
The whole damn world
will listen to you.
01:31:42.303 --> 01:31:44.005
Where are they going?
01:31:44.038 --> 01:31:45.873
Afterparty.
01:31:47.308 --> 01:31:48.876
The Afterparty.
01:31:48.909 --> 01:31:50.711
Tell me about that.
01:31:50.745 --> 01:31:54.015
I mean, people overdose a
hundred times a day, Ben.
01:31:54.048 --> 01:31:55.649
That's a fact.
01:31:55.683 --> 01:31:57.027
But they can't do it in a
place where it's gonna be
01:31:57.051 --> 01:31:59.653
a problem for people
like you and I. Hmm?
01:32:01.055 --> 01:32:03.057
That's what happened to Abilene.
01:32:04.792 --> 01:32:06.327
Abilene?
01:32:06.360 --> 01:32:10.031
I mean, she died at
a party like this.
01:32:11.799 --> 01:32:13.667
I thought you
finished that story.
01:32:13.701 --> 01:32:15.569
Oh.
01:32:15.603 --> 01:32:17.738
This is just for us.
01:32:17.772 --> 01:32:20.341
Well, it's not a very
good story anyway.
01:32:20.374 --> 01:32:22.576
Oh, she was a drug addict.
01:32:22.610 --> 01:32:24.211
She OD'd.
01:32:24.245 --> 01:32:26.947
Then she tried to call 911.
01:32:27.815 --> 01:32:30.951
Oh. In Texas, we don't call 911.
01:32:30.985 --> 01:32:32.953
Yeah, I've heard that.
01:32:33.821 --> 01:32:35.956
They record all those calls.
01:32:35.990 --> 01:32:39.126
We gotta be very careful
about what gets recorded.
01:32:39.160 --> 01:32:41.062
Yeah. You do.
01:32:41.095 --> 01:32:44.031
It's all that's left of us.
01:32:44.065 --> 01:32:45.666
The recordings.
01:32:46.367 --> 01:32:49.670
And people like
you and I, Abilene,
01:32:49.703 --> 01:32:54.175
everybody posting photos
of every part of their day,
01:32:54.208 --> 01:32:58.012
we trade in our entire lives
01:32:58.045 --> 01:33:02.016
for the tiny pieces
that get recorded of us.
01:33:04.318 --> 01:33:05.820
Abilene tried to call 911.
01:33:05.853 --> 01:33:07.688
You didn't let her. Then what?
01:33:10.424 --> 01:33:11.826
Oh, boy.
01:33:11.859 --> 01:33:13.894
Don't get distracted.
01:33:13.928 --> 01:33:16.230
You gotta admit, that's
a hell of a distraction.
01:33:16.263 --> 01:33:18.999
That is... That's kind of like
01:33:19.033 --> 01:33:20.701
the very definition
of distraction.
01:33:20.734 --> 01:33:23.270
- Abilene.
- ♪ Abilene. ♪
01:33:23.304 --> 01:33:26.240
- Abilene.
- ♪ Abilene. ♪
01:33:26.273 --> 01:33:28.075
What happened to Abilene?
01:33:28.876 --> 01:33:30.911
Do you believe in ghosts, Ben?
01:33:30.945 --> 01:33:33.981
I got a call from
a ghost earlier.
01:33:35.349 --> 01:33:38.219
Kind of thought I'd
be seeing you today.
01:33:40.688 --> 01:33:42.389
What happened to her?
01:33:42.423 --> 01:33:44.625
Why do you care so much?
01:33:46.160 --> 01:33:49.063
Why do you care so little?
01:33:51.465 --> 01:33:54.268
She overdosed.
01:33:54.301 --> 01:33:55.736
Instead of helping her,
01:33:55.769 --> 01:33:58.405
you dragged her
to the Afterparty,
01:33:58.439 --> 01:33:59.816
which is a spot with
no cell reception
01:33:59.840 --> 01:34:01.008
at the exact intersection
01:34:01.041 --> 01:34:04.044
of four overlapping
law jurisdictions
01:34:04.078 --> 01:34:05.412
where you knew her death
01:34:05.446 --> 01:34:09.150
would just become an
anonymous statistic.
01:34:09.183 --> 01:34:11.819
Hmm.
01:34:16.323 --> 01:34:18.159
It's well said.
01:34:18.192 --> 01:34:19.660
Very succinct.
01:34:22.930 --> 01:34:26.100
Yes. That's exactly
what happened.
01:34:33.407 --> 01:34:36.177
Brilliant.
01:34:36.210 --> 01:34:38.112
You got it.
01:34:38.145 --> 01:34:39.747
You got it all.
01:34:39.780 --> 01:34:43.117
That's a story about America.
01:34:43.150 --> 01:34:45.920
Let me know if you need
me to rerecord anything.
01:34:45.953 --> 01:34:47.788
Or, like, rephrase things.
01:34:47.821 --> 01:34:49.924
I can do that, too.
01:34:50.925 --> 01:34:51.992
What?
01:34:52.026 --> 01:34:53.227
Oh, come...
01:34:53.260 --> 01:34:54.929
You and I are gonna
be sitting on a panel
01:34:54.962 --> 01:34:56.439
talking about this. I
want it to be great.
01:34:56.463 --> 01:34:59.133
We both know how
this works. Right?
01:34:59.166 --> 01:35:00.467
Yeah, I-I mean, at first,
01:35:00.502 --> 01:35:05.239
everyone's gonna think
you got your bad guy.
01:35:07.074 --> 01:35:09.410
Nobody's gonna let
it be that simple.
01:35:09.443 --> 01:35:10.887
Everyone's gonna have
to have their take
01:35:10.911 --> 01:35:13.814
'cause that's how it works now.
01:35:13.847 --> 01:35:16.016
Everyone has a take.
01:35:16.050 --> 01:35:17.928
See, if you don't have a
take, you don't have a voice.
01:35:17.952 --> 01:35:19.887
If you don't have a
voice, you don't exist.
01:35:19.920 --> 01:35:25.025
So yeah, at first,
everyone's gonna blame me.
01:35:25.059 --> 01:35:29.096
But then someone's gonna
say, "Wait a second."
01:35:29.129 --> 01:35:33.767
There's a big difference
between leaving somebody to die
01:35:33.801 --> 01:35:36.136
and killing somebody.
01:35:37.838 --> 01:35:39.773
Then they're gonna turn to you.
01:35:40.575 --> 01:35:43.844
What were you doing
here in the first place?
01:35:43.877 --> 01:35:46.013
What was your
relationship with her?
01:35:46.046 --> 01:35:50.451
Why would you exploit
her grieving family?
01:35:50.484 --> 01:35:52.253
Those...
01:35:52.286 --> 01:35:53.954
Those characters.
01:35:53.988 --> 01:35:57.391
I mean... I mean, that's
what they're gonna be.
01:35:57.424 --> 01:35:59.493
Famous characters.
01:35:59.527 --> 01:36:01.161
Not famous people.
01:36:01.195 --> 01:36:03.797
And then they're gonna
blame the family.
01:36:03.831 --> 01:36:06.166
Oh, I hope they're
ready for that.
01:36:07.901 --> 01:36:09.537
They'll blame the president.
01:36:09.571 --> 01:36:11.573
The last president.
01:36:13.240 --> 01:36:15.118
And then they'll start in
with the conspiracy theories.
01:36:15.142 --> 01:36:17.545
You know, and someone will
refute the conspiracy theories,
01:36:17.579 --> 01:36:23.217
and then one side will make
their version like their cause.
01:36:23.250 --> 01:36:25.919
And the other side will
take the other side
01:36:25.953 --> 01:36:30.024
just to take the other
side and on, and on.
01:36:30.057 --> 01:36:33.561
Until your story proves
01:36:33.595 --> 01:36:37.298
the defining truth of our time.
01:36:38.600 --> 01:36:40.602
Which is what?
01:36:40.635 --> 01:36:45.607
Everything means everything.
01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:50.244
So nothing means anything.
01:36:53.981 --> 01:36:56.917
Some things mean something.
01:36:58.485 --> 01:37:00.054
Yeah?
01:37:00.087 --> 01:37:01.221
Like what?
01:37:02.222 --> 01:37:03.957
Abilene?
01:37:04.626 --> 01:37:06.460
You didn't care about her.
01:37:06.493 --> 01:37:09.129
You came here for yourself.
01:37:09.163 --> 01:37:11.999
For recording.
01:37:12.032 --> 01:37:14.935
And then you heard her music.
01:37:14.968 --> 01:37:16.236
And you saw her photos.
01:37:16.270 --> 01:37:19.006
The record of her.
01:37:19.641 --> 01:37:22.242
And that's what you care for.
01:37:23.243 --> 01:37:25.112
A recording.
01:37:26.246 --> 01:37:28.182
Not a person.
01:37:31.519 --> 01:37:34.388
We are all...
01:37:34.421 --> 01:37:37.458
just inspirations
01:37:37.491 --> 01:37:40.094
for the record of ourselves.
01:37:40.127 --> 01:37:41.629
You and I both know it.
01:37:41.663 --> 01:37:43.997
You got your opus.
01:37:44.031 --> 01:37:46.634
And that's what matters.
01:37:46.668 --> 01:37:48.469
But Abilene?
01:37:48.503 --> 01:37:50.371
The person?
01:37:51.639 --> 01:37:54.007
Come on.
01:37:54.041 --> 01:37:56.009
She was just some girl.
01:37:56.043 --> 01:37:58.613
That's the truth, Ben.
01:37:58.646 --> 01:38:00.481
Hundred percent.
01:38:06.019 --> 01:38:08.255
♪ Drive fast ♪
01:38:09.223 --> 01:38:11.559
♪ I can almost taste it now ♪
01:38:11.593 --> 01:38:13.394
♪ L.A. ♪
01:38:14.696 --> 01:38:16.598
♪ I don't even have
to fake it now ♪
01:38:16.631 --> 01:38:19.333
♪ You were like so sick ♪
01:38:19.366 --> 01:38:20.934
♪ Everybody said it ♪
01:38:20.968 --> 01:38:24.138
♪ You were way ahead of
the trend, ge-get it ♪
01:38:24.171 --> 01:38:27.341
♪ "Elvis is the
best, hell yes" ♪
01:38:27.374 --> 01:38:31.145
♪ "Honey, put on
that party dress" ♪
01:38:31.178 --> 01:38:34.549
♪ Like ooh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪
01:38:34.582 --> 01:38:36.618
♪ Ooh, ooh, oh, oh, ah ♪
01:38:36.651 --> 01:38:38.952
♪ You make me crazy ♪
01:38:38.986 --> 01:38:43.056
♪ You make me wild ♪
01:38:43.090 --> 01:38:49.296
♪ Just like a baby, spin
me round like a child ♪
01:38:49.329 --> 01:38:51.165
♪ Your skin so ♪
01:38:51.198 --> 01:38:55.703
♪ Golden brown ♪
01:38:55.737 --> 01:38:57.739
♪ Be young ♪
01:38:57.772 --> 01:39:01.543
♪ Be dope, be proud ♪
01:39:01.576 --> 01:39:04.178
♪ Like an American ♪
01:39:04.211 --> 01:39:08.215
♪ Ooh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪
01:39:08.248 --> 01:39:10.184
♪ Like an American ♪
01:39:10.217 --> 01:39:14.354
♪ Ooh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪
01:39:18.726 --> 01:39:21.563
♪ Everybody wants to go fast ♪
01:39:21.596 --> 01:39:24.599
♪ But they can't compare ♪
01:39:24.632 --> 01:39:28.202
♪ I don't really want the rest ♪
01:39:28.235 --> 01:39:31.238
♪ Only you can take me there ♪
01:39:31.271 --> 01:39:34.007
♪ I don't even know
what I'm saying ♪
01:39:34.041 --> 01:39:41.348
♪ But I'm praying for you... ♪
01:39:43.551 --> 01:39:45.753
We got a report of
a possible overdose.
01:39:45.787 --> 01:39:47.488
4940, Afterparty.
01:39:47.522 --> 01:39:48.790
Ambulance en route.
01:39:48.823 --> 01:39:51.626
A 911 on a Saturday night?
01:39:51.659 --> 01:39:53.427
Bullshit.
01:39:53.460 --> 01:39:54.562
People.
01:39:54.596 --> 01:39:55.730
Got a report.
01:39:55.763 --> 01:39:57.231
Quentin Sellers
shot in the head.
01:39:57.264 --> 01:39:58.265
Q?
01:39:58.298 --> 01:40:00.434
I never thought of that
guy as accident-prone.
01:40:00.467 --> 01:40:03.571
♪ Let's get wild tonight,
check your heart at the door ♪
01:40:04.438 --> 01:40:07.274
♪ That ain't what
tonight is for ♪
01:40:07.307 --> 01:40:09.511
♪ It's an old times,
good times... ♪
01:40:11.144 --> 01:40:16.450
♪ Gonna send you this
text when I get signal ♪
01:40:17.552 --> 01:40:22.624
♪ I'll know just the words
to say when I do... ♪
01:40:35.168 --> 01:40:37.304
I heard that y'all made up.
01:40:38.438 --> 01:40:40.374
Yeah.
01:40:41.275 --> 01:40:45.112
And I understand that was
quite a party last night.
01:40:46.748 --> 01:40:49.082
I wasn't there.
01:40:49.717 --> 01:40:51.686
That's right, you weren't.
01:40:51.719 --> 01:40:53.320
But...
01:40:53.353 --> 01:40:56.423
I heard it was a
pretty good party.
01:40:59.627 --> 01:41:05.365
I've... very much enjoyed
being in your home.
01:41:08.536 --> 01:41:10.705
You're gonna need a ride.
01:41:10.738 --> 01:41:11.839
That's true.
01:41:11.873 --> 01:41:15.208
My car is, uh...
01:41:16.310 --> 01:41:19.146
What are your plans
when you get back?
01:41:19.179 --> 01:41:21.448
Guess I have to
find a new story.
01:41:21.481 --> 01:41:23.518
After all that?
01:41:23.551 --> 01:41:26.253
What about all that
stuff with Abby?
01:41:26.286 --> 01:41:29.524
I think that
story's just for us.
01:41:29.557 --> 01:41:31.526
Oh.
01:41:33.761 --> 01:41:36.564
That's nice, too.
01:41:36.598 --> 01:41:38.600
No regrets.
01:41:38.633 --> 01:41:39.901
I never understood that.
01:41:39.934 --> 01:41:41.468
No regrets.
01:41:41.502 --> 01:41:44.237
I mean, how do you...
01:41:45.907 --> 01:41:49.476
In my life, everything
starts with a regret,
01:41:49.510 --> 01:41:50.812
ends with a regret.
01:41:50.845 --> 01:41:53.581
In between, regrets.
01:41:53.615 --> 01:41:56.216
It's all regrets.
01:41:56.249 --> 01:41:58.385
You run as fast as you
can from the last regret
01:41:58.418 --> 01:41:59.854
and, of course,
you're just running
01:41:59.887 --> 01:42:01.789
straight into the next one.
01:42:01.823 --> 01:42:03.758
That's life.
01:42:03.791 --> 01:42:05.225
It's all regrets.
01:42:05.258 --> 01:42:07.662
That's what they should say.
01:42:07.695 --> 01:42:09.564
No other way to be alive.
01:42:10.865 --> 01:42:13.200
It's all regrets.
01:42:14.234 --> 01:42:16.169
Make 'em count.
01:42:17.305 --> 01:43:17.358
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