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Previously,
on "The InBetween"...
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I see ghosts. I hear them.
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Cassie!
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Sometimes they send me
a message.
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You have to stop him.
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And sometimes they just show up.
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My daughter has
certain abilities
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that can be very helpful.
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She's over here!
She's still alive.
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But what she sees...
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It's incredibly rough on her.
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I saw some strange stuff
last night,
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and I think it might be
related to your case.
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Let me out!
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Everybody,
your attention, please.
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Sergeant Ballion has agreed
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let our task force address you
before role call
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so that we can give you as much
information as possible today
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before you're out on the street.
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As you all know,
the last three years,
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three newlywed couples
have been brutally murdered
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in their own homes.
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The man has been tortured
and shot.
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The woman has been drowned.
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The killer always strikes
on the same date: Today.
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This is the year
that we stop him.
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Our team will comb the tip lines
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and get you the best leads
you can follow up on.
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Bulletins have been sent
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to all neighborhood
watch offices and HOAs.
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There is no question
this guy stalks his victims,
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possibly for the 12 months
leading up to each kill.
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So don't be too quick
to dismiss reports
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of men and women saying
they are being followed
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or complaints their homes
have been vandalized.
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Everything must be checked out,
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especially if the complainant
has been married
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for less than one year.
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We are not gonna let this guy
slip through the net again.
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All right,
let's hit the streets.
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We're doing everything we can.
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Seattle's practically
on lockdown.
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I just hope it's enough.
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What smells so delicious?
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- Waffles.
- My favorite.
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Go for it.
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Tom went into work early,
so you're gonna eat his share
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as well as your own.
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Not bad news, I hope.
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- You mean the newlywed killer.
- Yeah.
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So far, all is quiet.
That reminds me,
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Tom got you
a pepper spray keychain.
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To go with the TASER he got you
when you went off to college.
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And the self-defense classes
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in high school.
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I was one badass freshman.
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I made way too much food here.
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You know what, think I'm gonna
bring some over
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to the precinct later.
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I'm sure they'd appreciate that.
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Let me help you.
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No!
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Is there any way
you can identify her?
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Maybe we could still
get to her in time.
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I could barely make out her face
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just through all the water.
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I didn't see anything else.
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I'm sorry.
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That's all right, kid.
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Listen, I appreciate
you calling.
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Bye.
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You made all this food.
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Kinda lost my appetite.
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He's just so stressed
about this case.
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I just wish
I could be more helpful.
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Hey, come on,
you're doing your best.
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We all just want to stop this
guy before he strikes again.
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Yeah.
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Which reminds me,
Tom got you a present.
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It's a pepper spray keychain.
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To go with the taser he got
me when I left for college.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Brian, you gave me this already.
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Right, of course.
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I'm gonna get some more coffee.
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Detective,
is it the newlywed killer?
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Did he strike again?
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Detective, do you have
any leads?
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- What have we got?
- Jim and Shelly Edwards.
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Married seven months.
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Looks like the killer
gained access
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when Shelly was alone
Saturday afternoon.
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No forced entry.
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So she let him in
just like the other victims.
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Husband arrived around 8:00 p.m.
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We think he was struck
on the head
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as he entered the house.
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Restrained, tortured all night,
and then shot.
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Shelly was drowned
in their bathtub.
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No sexual assault, no robbery.
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Wallets were left full of cash.
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Exactly the same
as the last three years.
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Well, not quite.
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This way.
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Looks like he got
his hands free.
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Probably while the killer
was filling the bath.
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Edwards managed to dial 911,
but he was shot
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before he could tell them
their address.
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Still gave them a chance
to GPS the phone.
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Uniforms were here
in ten minutes.
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A pink flower petal.
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In our previous murders,
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the killer has had time
to clean up.
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This time, he's in a bit
of a rush.
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Any other flowers
around the house?
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No. Looks like a carnation.
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Shelly Edward's sister is here.
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She's in the living room.
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We found these,
flower petals in their room.
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Do you think she'd let in
a flower delivery man?
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I wanna say no,
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but Jim would sometimes
send her a bouquet
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for no reason.
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They were happy? No problems?
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Not that I know of.
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But a few days ago
Shelly and I went for coffee,
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and she was very anxious,
looking around a lot, jumpy.
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I asked her what was wrong
and she told me
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she thought someone
was following her.
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Now, thinking back on it,
there was more to it.
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Something she didn't want
to tell me.
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Like she knew the guy?
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Maybe.
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I remember thinking
she doesn't just look scared,
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she looks...
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guilty.
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It's in pretty good shape
if you wanna take a look.
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- Melinda!
- Cassie.
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My God!
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- How are you?
- I'm good!
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Yeah, I'm okay.
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- It's been a long time.
- Yeah.
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I'd love to catch up,
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see what you've been doing
since high school.
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You're kind of looking at it.
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I get a break
in about 20 minutes.
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Sounds great.
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Until then, how about a mimosa?
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On the house.
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Thank you.
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I'll see you in a bit.
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Hey, you made it.
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- Brilliant.
- Yeah, thanks to you
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I'm officially consulting
on this case.
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Damien, right?
Good to see you again.
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- Same here.
- Manny worked these murders
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since day one.
We could use his experience.
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Biggest regret
was taking retirement
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with this bastard
still on the loose.
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Mind if I walk the scene? Sure.
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I'll stay and take you through.
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Meet you back at the precinct.
Sounds good.
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Hey.
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So we're, shorthanded today,
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so I really only have
five minutes, but...
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what if we got lunch
later this week?
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I'd like that.
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It is really good to see you.
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For what it's worth,
I still feel awful
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about the way I acted
back in school.
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Cass.
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You were going through
a hard time.
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You'd just lost your mom.
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I know, but...
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you tried to be there for me
and II just cut you off.
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I'm really sorry.
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Now I feel like a jerk.
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I knew you worked here
when I came in.
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Okay.
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I wanted to talk to you
about something.
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About what?
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Do you remember, um...
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sophomore year
when Craig Hasler died?
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Sure.
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It was a brain aneurysm.
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Yeah.
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Maybe a week later you, me,
some of the other girls
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decided to contact him
on a Ouija board.
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Nothing was happening,
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and then suddenly,
you started to...
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freak out.
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You said
that you could see Craig.
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I mean, the other girls
were pissed.
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They thought you were just
trying to scare them, but...
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You were the only one
who believed me.
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I was your best friend.
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Yeah.
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And after that is when
you stopped speaking to me.
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I should have been more honest
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about what was going on with me.
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And the truth is, it's still
kind of complicated.
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Would it be okay
if we talked about it later
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when we have more time?
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- Yeah, of course.
- Yeah.
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Of course, I didn't mean
to upset you.
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You're engaged?
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Yeah, I was.
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She had a car accident.
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We had had an argument.
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I don't even remember
what it was about, but...
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Jenna...
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was driving home.
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She called me to apologize.
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She said, "There's
something I want you to know."
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Something important."
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But before she could...
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It has been two years.
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I cannot take this ring off
of my finger.
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I can't stop thinking about
what she wanted
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to tell me that night.
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Is she trying
to get through to me?
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It's just that I...
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can't hear her.
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But maybe I can.
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So you want me to try
to talk to her?
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You can say no...
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But please don't.
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Of course.
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I mean, I can try.
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Thank you.
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Thanks. Ballistics are in.
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Our victim, Jim Edwards,
was shot with the same weapon
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as the previous three husbands:
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A .22 caliber.
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Well, our killer's
consistent, I'll give him that.
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Always seemed odd
to use such a small gun.
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I mean, why not a .38, a .44?
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Well, a .22 makes less racket,
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still gets the job done
close range.
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Where are we?
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Forensics is still processing
the apartment.
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We found a carnation petal
at the scene.
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Uniforms are canvassing
the local flower shops.
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I've gotta update
the mayor's office in 20.
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Any new insights?
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I've been reviewing the files,
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putting together a profile
of the killer.
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He's all about power
and control.
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Rituals are clearly important.
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He's detail-oriented...
Meticulous, even.
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But here's what's
tripping me up:
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Usually, when a couple
is murdered,
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one gender is obviously
the real target.
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David Berkowitz, for example,
shot couples parked in cars,
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but his motivation
was anger towards women
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for rejecting him.
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With this guy, I...
I'm not so sure.
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He spends hours with the women
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before the husband comes home.
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Now, if she is
the primary target,
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he could just kill her
and leave,
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never even deal with the man.
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Only the husbands are tortured.
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The real point
is having them together
265
00:11:47,312 --> 00:11:49,192
so they can see what the other
is going through.
266
00:11:49,216 --> 00:11:50,713
Maybe he was engaged, married.
267
00:11:50,756 --> 00:11:52,540
Ended badly.
Wife might have left him
268
00:11:52,584 --> 00:11:54,717
for another guy.
So the female victim's
269
00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,196
a surrogate
for the bride he lost
270
00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,373
and the husband represents
the man who stole her away.
271
00:11:59,417 --> 00:12:01,636
I went through the victim's
calendars, and get this,
272
00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:03,726
Shelly Edwards
has the same notation
273
00:12:03,769 --> 00:12:06,380
every Thursday at 6:00 p.m.
274
00:12:06,424 --> 00:12:09,775
Which is... "NWSG."
275
00:12:09,819 --> 00:12:12,038
That's it? Just an acronym?
276
00:12:12,082 --> 00:12:13,344
No address, no notes.
277
00:12:13,387 --> 00:12:14,787
Did you ask the sister
about this?
278
00:12:14,811 --> 00:12:16,695
No one close to her
seems to know what it is.
279
00:12:16,739 --> 00:12:19,567
And the first entry
is six months ago.
280
00:12:19,611 --> 00:12:21,411
That's right after
the Edwards were married.
281
00:12:21,435 --> 00:12:25,051
Do you remember NWSG
with any previous murder?
282
00:12:25,095 --> 00:12:26,935
- No, it's new to me.
- But anything that might
283
00:12:26,978 --> 00:12:29,067
have to do with their wedding
is worth looking into.
284
00:12:29,111 --> 00:12:31,884
I agree.
Let me know what you find.
285
00:12:33,233 --> 00:12:34,974
I'll be right back.
286
00:13:16,886 --> 00:13:19,932
- "Ashley."
- That's what it read.
287
00:13:19,976 --> 00:13:21,804
- First name, last name?
- I couldn't tell.
288
00:13:21,847 --> 00:13:24,110
But you're positive
it's connected to our case?
289
00:13:24,154 --> 00:13:25,895
Well, from all the slashing
that went on
290
00:13:25,938 --> 00:13:27,722
and the drowning earlier, yeah.
291
00:13:27,766 --> 00:13:29,855
Yeah, I'm positive.
292
00:13:29,899 --> 00:13:31,552
Anyway, I'm gonna go home.
293
00:13:31,596 --> 00:13:33,554
I'll let you know
if I see anything else.
294
00:13:33,598 --> 00:13:36,122
- Thanks, kid.
- Yeah.
295
00:13:36,166 --> 00:13:38,081
There's never been a victim
or a witness
296
00:13:38,124 --> 00:13:40,953
on this case before
named Ashley.
297
00:13:40,997 --> 00:13:43,434
If our killer was abandoned
by a fianc�e at some point,
298
00:13:43,477 --> 00:13:46,306
her name could be Ashley.
299
00:13:46,350 --> 00:13:47,830
- Hey, Hackett?
- Yeah.
300
00:13:47,873 --> 00:13:49,309
I've got something.
301
00:13:49,353 --> 00:13:51,616
There are no security cameras
on the Edwards' block,
302
00:13:51,659 --> 00:13:53,487
but I pulled up as much footage
as I could
303
00:13:53,531 --> 00:13:56,186
from the places they frequent.
304
00:13:56,229 --> 00:13:57,970
And I found this.
305
00:13:58,014 --> 00:13:59,885
So the sister was right.
306
00:13:59,929 --> 00:14:01,769
Shelly did know the guy
that was following her.
307
00:14:01,793 --> 00:14:04,063
Yeah, the sister also said
Shelly was acting guilty.
308
00:14:04,107 --> 00:14:06,979
Maybe she was having an affair.
309
00:14:07,023 --> 00:14:08,633
Is there more
than one encounter?
310
00:14:08,676 --> 00:14:10,591
Yeah, he was persistent.
311
00:14:10,635 --> 00:14:12,855
This is Shelly's fitness studio.
312
00:14:12,898 --> 00:14:15,292
I put it through the DMV
facial recognition software
313
00:14:15,335 --> 00:14:17,207
Clay Rollins.
314
00:14:17,250 --> 00:14:18,686
Does he have a record?
315
00:14:18,730 --> 00:14:21,080
Mostly petty stuff,
but he did 13 months
316
00:14:21,124 --> 00:14:23,343
for domestic battery
on his ex-wife.
317
00:14:25,824 --> 00:14:29,262
Let's bring him in.
318
00:14:29,306 --> 00:14:30,960
How did you know Shelly?
319
00:14:31,003 --> 00:14:33,323
We used to date in college,
but it wasn't anything serious.
320
00:14:33,347 --> 00:14:35,529
Then why do we have you
on security tape harassing her
321
00:14:35,573 --> 00:14:37,401
the week before
she was murdered?
322
00:14:37,444 --> 00:14:38,881
I wasn't harassing her.
323
00:14:38,924 --> 00:14:41,187
I ran into Shelly
about four months ago.
324
00:14:41,231 --> 00:14:43,189
We went for a drink
and she started telling me
325
00:14:43,233 --> 00:14:44,799
that she wasn't happy.
326
00:14:44,843 --> 00:14:46,683
Marriage was more complicated
than she thought,
327
00:14:46,707 --> 00:14:47,802
blah, blah, blah.
328
00:14:47,846 --> 00:14:49,892
I've been married before,
so I gave her some advice.
329
00:14:49,935 --> 00:14:52,024
- You said you had a drink.
- Yeah.
330
00:14:52,068 --> 00:14:54,244
- Where?
- The bar at Columbia Hotel.
331
00:14:54,287 --> 00:14:56,115
At what point in the evening
did you decide
332
00:14:56,159 --> 00:14:58,335
to take your conversation
upstairs to one of the rooms?
333
00:14:58,378 --> 00:15:00,032
We didn't.
334
00:15:00,076 --> 00:15:03,427
That particular night
we had sex in my car.
335
00:15:05,037 --> 00:15:06,734
How long were you seeing
each other?
336
00:15:06,778 --> 00:15:08,606
Couple of months.
337
00:15:08,649 --> 00:15:10,913
We'd get together
once a week or so.
338
00:15:10,956 --> 00:15:12,836
She had a standing
Thursday night appointment.
339
00:15:12,860 --> 00:15:15,047
Was that you?
No, Thursdays I play poker.
340
00:15:15,091 --> 00:15:17,571
- We need to check your alibi.
- You can have at it.
341
00:15:17,615 --> 00:15:19,573
Digsy's Poker Palace
in Georgetown.
342
00:15:19,617 --> 00:15:21,575
I'm a regular.
You do a lot of gambling
343
00:15:21,619 --> 00:15:22,925
for a guy on parole, Clay.
344
00:15:22,968 --> 00:15:24,752
Look, Shelly and I had a thing.
345
00:15:24,796 --> 00:15:26,580
She ended it,
I tried to change her mind.
346
00:15:26,624 --> 00:15:28,974
- That is it.
- Why'd she end it?
347
00:15:30,106 --> 00:15:32,325
She had this crazy reason.
348
00:15:32,369 --> 00:15:34,153
Someone left a bunch of flowers
at her work
349
00:15:34,197 --> 00:15:37,026
and she thought
it was me being cute.
350
00:15:37,069 --> 00:15:39,158
She was pissed.
I don't blame her.
351
00:15:39,202 --> 00:15:42,466
Yeah, but that's the thing...
It wasn't me.
352
00:15:43,380 --> 00:15:45,860
Did she say what kind
of flowers they were?
353
00:15:45,904 --> 00:15:48,733
Pink carnations.
354
00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,577
I remember that bouquet, sure.
355
00:15:57,621 --> 00:15:59,407
It was about two weeks ago.
356
00:15:59,544 --> 00:16:01,198
I was pulling into
the parking lot
357
00:16:01,241 --> 00:16:04,070
and I saw a guy just
leaving them by the back door.
358
00:16:04,114 --> 00:16:05,419
Was there a card?
359
00:16:05,463 --> 00:16:07,247
No, nothing,
so I brought them in
360
00:16:07,291 --> 00:16:08,901
and told Shelly about it
when she got in.
361
00:16:08,945 --> 00:16:10,163
But she wasn't happy.
362
00:16:10,207 --> 00:16:11,948
Did she seem frightened?
363
00:16:11,991 --> 00:16:13,819
More annoyed than anything.
364
00:16:13,863 --> 00:16:15,423
I said maybe they were
from her husband,
365
00:16:15,447 --> 00:16:16,866
and she said Jim knew better.
366
00:16:16,909 --> 00:16:18,998
He'd send roses, not carnations.
367
00:16:19,042 --> 00:16:20,682
She went around
asking all the instructors
368
00:16:20,706 --> 00:16:23,394
if they were expecting flowers,
and everyone said no,
369
00:16:23,437 --> 00:16:24,874
so she tossed them in the trash
370
00:16:24,917 --> 00:16:26,237
and that's the last
I heard of it.
371
00:16:26,261 --> 00:16:28,268
Could you describe the guy?
372
00:16:28,312 --> 00:16:31,576
He was pretty far away
but, um, white,
373
00:16:31,619 --> 00:16:33,230
tall, average build.
374
00:16:33,273 --> 00:16:34,753
Was he driving a car?
375
00:16:34,797 --> 00:16:37,538
I'm not sure, but after
he dropped the flowers
376
00:16:37,582 --> 00:16:40,454
I heard a motorcycle start up
around the corner.
377
00:17:23,410 --> 00:17:24,759
Jenna.
378
00:17:26,022 --> 00:17:28,938
Jenna.
379
00:17:28,981 --> 00:17:32,637
If you have a message
for Melinda,
380
00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,900
you can tell me.
381
00:18:19,727 --> 00:18:22,165
We've checked with
as many friends and relatives
382
00:18:22,208 --> 00:18:24,384
of the former victims
as we can find
383
00:18:24,428 --> 00:18:26,865
asking about
mysterious flower deliveries
384
00:18:26,909 --> 00:18:28,562
prior to the murders.
385
00:18:28,606 --> 00:18:31,130
Debra Carpenter's mother said
she thinks maybe carnations
386
00:18:31,174 --> 00:18:32,494
were dropped off
to Debra's office
387
00:18:32,523 --> 00:18:34,220
about a month before
the murders.
388
00:18:34,264 --> 00:18:35,439
But, I mean, without card
389
00:18:35,482 --> 00:18:36,764
they just assumed
it was a mistake.
390
00:18:36,788 --> 00:18:38,331
Everyone else says
they didn't know anything
391
00:18:38,355 --> 00:18:39,965
about any flowers,
or they've forgotten.
392
00:18:40,009 --> 00:18:41,449
That's a lead I'd have
followed up on
393
00:18:41,473 --> 00:18:43,388
like a bloodhound...
Nobody ever mentioned that.
394
00:18:43,432 --> 00:18:45,101
Well, no one realized
it was important.
395
00:18:45,144 --> 00:18:46,841
I mean, Shelly Edwards
only mentioned it
396
00:18:46,885 --> 00:18:48,645
because she thought the flowers
were delivered by Clay Rollins.
397
00:18:48,669 --> 00:18:51,194
And with no card, it's
possible the other two victims
398
00:18:51,237 --> 00:18:52,760
didn't get flowers.
For the killer,
399
00:18:52,804 --> 00:18:54,980
it's just about
the ritual of leaving them.
400
00:18:55,024 --> 00:18:56,373
It's all about the game.
401
00:18:56,416 --> 00:18:58,636
- Why pink carnations?
- I did a little research.
402
00:18:58,679 --> 00:19:01,204
Apparently, they are symbolic
of a woman's love.
403
00:19:01,247 --> 00:19:03,946
Maybe, but women
don't like 'em. I mean...
404
00:19:04,762 --> 00:19:06,402
Well, they mean something
to the killer.
405
00:19:06,426 --> 00:19:08,733
He delivered flowers
to Shelly Edwards at work,
406
00:19:08,776 --> 00:19:11,214
and Jim Edwards had
a carnation petal in his hand.
407
00:19:11,257 --> 00:19:12,937
He's bringing flowers
to the murder scene
408
00:19:12,961 --> 00:19:15,044
and taking them with him
when he goes.
409
00:19:15,087 --> 00:19:16,567
Okay, listen, I suggest
410
00:19:16,610 --> 00:19:18,210
we release this information
to the press.
411
00:19:18,234 --> 00:19:21,311
We've gotta set up a tip line
for any random flower drops.
412
00:19:21,354 --> 00:19:24,705
Okay, I'll work on it.
Good work, guys.
413
00:19:24,749 --> 00:19:26,533
I stayed on the road
for another hour
414
00:19:26,577 --> 00:19:28,709
trying to talk to Jenna,
but she couldn't hear me.
415
00:19:28,753 --> 00:19:30,842
The accident
just kept happening.
416
00:19:30,885 --> 00:19:34,063
Over and over.
417
00:19:34,106 --> 00:19:36,979
It's like she's caught in...
418
00:19:37,022 --> 00:19:40,243
some kind of death echo.
419
00:19:40,286 --> 00:19:42,245
Is that like a technical term?
420
00:19:42,288 --> 00:19:45,204
No, I just made it up.
421
00:19:45,248 --> 00:19:47,467
But that's what it feels like.
422
00:19:47,511 --> 00:19:49,904
She's...
423
00:19:49,948 --> 00:19:52,690
she's stuck.
424
00:19:52,733 --> 00:19:54,866
There was this kid
at my old high school...
425
00:19:54,909 --> 00:19:57,042
Craig Heslerhe died
of a brain aneurysm
426
00:19:57,086 --> 00:19:58,304
when we were 14.
427
00:19:58,348 --> 00:20:00,263
Did you know him?
428
00:20:00,306 --> 00:20:03,527
Not when he was alive,
but after...
429
00:20:03,570 --> 00:20:05,920
I would see him at school.
430
00:20:05,964 --> 00:20:08,184
He'd be wandering the halls
431
00:20:08,227 --> 00:20:10,447
and hiding in dark corners
432
00:20:10,490 --> 00:20:14,016
just clutching his head
and screaming...
433
00:20:14,059 --> 00:20:16,322
like he was still
feeling the pain
434
00:20:16,366 --> 00:20:18,281
of the moment when he died.
435
00:20:18,324 --> 00:20:20,848
What happened to him?
436
00:20:20,892 --> 00:20:22,937
I don't know.
437
00:20:22,981 --> 00:20:26,593
Kinda quit going to school,
if you remember.
438
00:20:27,116 --> 00:20:28,987
Too well.
439
00:20:29,031 --> 00:20:30,467
There were a lot of reasons
440
00:20:30,510 --> 00:20:31,870
that I couldn't handle
high school,
441
00:20:31,894 --> 00:20:33,948
but one of the big ones
was that Craig Hesler
442
00:20:33,992 --> 00:20:36,516
scared the crap out of me.
443
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,999
I wanted to help him
but I didn't know how...
444
00:20:41,043 --> 00:20:43,828
so I walked away.
445
00:20:43,871 --> 00:20:48,006
And I don't want
to do that with Jenna.
446
00:20:48,050 --> 00:20:50,487
Okay.
447
00:20:50,530 --> 00:20:53,272
Well, let's talk about
what's holding her back.
448
00:20:53,316 --> 00:20:55,579
Could be the trauma
from the accident.
449
00:20:55,622 --> 00:20:58,495
Maybe something about Melinda.
450
00:20:59,974 --> 00:21:04,066
When I first saw the crash,
Melinda had grabbed my arm...
451
00:21:05,328 --> 00:21:07,243
And she still wears
the engagement ring,
452
00:21:07,286 --> 00:21:10,333
and it's like it carries
a lot of...
453
00:21:10,376 --> 00:21:12,248
I don't know, energy.
454
00:21:12,291 --> 00:21:14,076
I could feel it.
455
00:21:16,382 --> 00:21:19,994
The ring is a symbol
of their love.
456
00:21:20,038 --> 00:21:21,518
When Jenna was alive,
457
00:21:21,561 --> 00:21:25,130
the bond they shared
made them strong.
458
00:21:25,174 --> 00:21:27,393
But now...
459
00:21:28,568 --> 00:21:30,962
Now it's like a weight.
460
00:21:35,706 --> 00:21:37,751
I just got off the phone
with the mayor.
461
00:21:37,795 --> 00:21:39,579
His office is releasing
a statement
462
00:21:39,623 --> 00:21:40,943
about the carnations
to the press.
463
00:21:40,967 --> 00:21:43,061
Excellent,
hopefully we'll get a hit.
464
00:21:43,105 --> 00:21:45,345
- Whoa, where you guys going?
- We got a lead on Shelly's
465
00:21:45,369 --> 00:21:46,847
mysterious Thursday appointment.
466
00:21:46,891 --> 00:21:49,589
The acronym, NWSGcell calls
she made on Thursday evenings
467
00:21:49,633 --> 00:21:51,243
ping a tower in Crown Hill.
468
00:21:51,287 --> 00:21:52,723
When we checked
her credit cards,
469
00:21:52,766 --> 00:21:54,726
we found a $40 charge
every fifth Thursday evening
470
00:21:54,768 --> 00:21:56,640
to the DiSavino Bake Shop
in Crown Hill.
471
00:21:56,683 --> 00:21:58,772
It goes back six months,
472
00:21:58,816 --> 00:22:01,949
same time that NWSG started
appearing in her calendar.
473
00:22:03,212 --> 00:22:06,040
Headed to the bakery
to check it out.
474
00:22:10,610 --> 00:22:12,569
Sorry, we're closed.
475
00:22:12,612 --> 00:22:14,701
We just need a minute.
476
00:22:14,745 --> 00:22:16,573
Have you seen this woman?
477
00:22:16,616 --> 00:22:19,576
Yeah, she was in here
a few times.
478
00:22:19,619 --> 00:22:21,299
We're trying to work out
what she was doing
479
00:22:21,323 --> 00:22:22,977
in the neighborhood
on Thursday nights.
480
00:22:23,020 --> 00:22:24,537
Well, I can't say for sure,
481
00:22:24,581 --> 00:22:26,221
but the community center
across the street
482
00:22:26,245 --> 00:22:28,498
offers classes and meetings
during the week,
483
00:22:28,541 --> 00:22:31,588
and sometimes people stop in
before to pick up snacks.
484
00:22:31,631 --> 00:22:33,459
Okay, we'll check it out.
485
00:22:33,503 --> 00:22:36,462
Ask for Lyla James.
She runs the place.
486
00:22:36,506 --> 00:22:40,031
Thank you,
you've been very helpful.
487
00:22:48,518 --> 00:22:51,347
- Can I help you?
- Lyla James?
488
00:22:51,390 --> 00:22:52,913
The coordinator for the center?
489
00:22:52,957 --> 00:22:54,741
That's right.
490
00:22:54,785 --> 00:22:57,135
Do you recognize this woman?
491
00:22:57,179 --> 00:22:58,484
Seen her on the news.
492
00:22:58,528 --> 00:23:00,488
That's the woman who was killed
on Saturday night.
493
00:23:00,530 --> 00:23:03,315
Shelly Edwards.
Has she been here?
494
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,796
We were at
the DiSavino Bakery next door.
495
00:23:05,839 --> 00:23:07,919
They told us Shelly picked up
a box of pastries there
496
00:23:07,943 --> 00:23:09,234
every few weeks.
497
00:23:09,278 --> 00:23:10,478
Apparently that's not uncommon
498
00:23:10,522 --> 00:23:11,958
for people attending
meetings here.
499
00:23:12,001 --> 00:23:14,065
Yes, anonymous meetings.
500
00:23:14,108 --> 00:23:17,808
We'll try to keep anything
you tell us confidential.
501
00:23:17,851 --> 00:23:19,984
It's terrible
what happened to Shelly,
502
00:23:20,027 --> 00:23:23,030
but it's my responsibility
to protect the privacy
503
00:23:23,074 --> 00:23:25,076
of the people who come here
seeking help.
504
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,251
Even if they're dead?
505
00:23:26,295 --> 00:23:27,861
Even then.
506
00:23:27,905 --> 00:23:32,170
It's not just Shelly's privacy,
it's everyone else's, too.
507
00:23:32,214 --> 00:23:34,955
I'm really sorry.
508
00:23:34,999 --> 00:23:37,219
Thank you.
509
00:23:39,917 --> 00:23:41,745
"Newlywed Women's
Support Group."
510
00:23:41,788 --> 00:23:43,616
I entered the address
of the community center,
511
00:23:43,660 --> 00:23:46,663
and a Thursday meeting time
along with the acronym NWSG,
512
00:23:46,706 --> 00:23:48,186
and that's what came up.
513
00:23:49,883 --> 00:23:51,711
Newlyweds need support for what?
514
00:23:51,755 --> 00:23:53,235
According to
the club's description,
515
00:23:53,259 --> 00:23:55,498
it's for modern women who are
having trouble adjusting
516
00:23:55,541 --> 00:23:56,847
to the demands and difficulties
517
00:23:56,890 --> 00:23:58,631
of building a life
with a new partner.
518
00:23:58,675 --> 00:24:02,200
Mutual decision-making,
shared spaces,
519
00:24:02,244 --> 00:24:04,202
compromises, sacrifices...
520
00:24:04,246 --> 00:24:05,334
Marriage.
521
00:24:05,377 --> 00:24:06,944
Clay said Shelly wasn't happy.
522
00:24:06,987 --> 00:24:09,686
Marriage was more complicated
than she thought it'd be.
523
00:24:09,729 --> 00:24:12,428
Are any of our other
female victims members?
524
00:24:12,471 --> 00:24:14,038
Both Lucy Aquila
and Debra Carpenter
525
00:24:14,081 --> 00:24:15,841
were in couples' therapy
with their husbands.
526
00:24:15,865 --> 00:24:18,085
I followed up the lead
at the time, it went nowhere.
527
00:24:18,129 --> 00:24:20,087
Could it be that those wives
were in that group?
528
00:24:20,131 --> 00:24:22,351
But the only way to be sure
is to get a complete list
529
00:24:22,394 --> 00:24:23,700
of former and current members.
530
00:24:23,743 --> 00:24:25,583
But the center won't release
that information
531
00:24:25,607 --> 00:24:28,400
without a warrant, and a judge
won't issue a warrant
532
00:24:28,444 --> 00:24:29,924
without a direct
and immediate threat.
533
00:24:29,967 --> 00:24:31,887
Let me tell you from
experience, lots of people
534
00:24:31,925 --> 00:24:33,605
don't even sign in
to those meetings at all
535
00:24:33,648 --> 00:24:34,848
or don't use their real names.
536
00:24:34,872 --> 00:24:36,321
That's what the "anonymous"
is about.
537
00:24:36,365 --> 00:24:38,236
It's, a protection.
538
00:24:39,193 --> 00:24:40,630
Our killer knows that.
539
00:24:40,673 --> 00:24:43,546
If everyone's anonymous,
we can't connect the victims.
540
00:24:43,589 --> 00:24:45,809
Perfect hunting ground.
541
00:24:53,033 --> 00:24:55,471
You know I'll help if I can,
but I haven't seen anything
542
00:24:55,514 --> 00:24:56,559
since the name Ashley.
543
00:24:56,602 --> 00:24:58,169
Yes, I know,
and you'll always call
544
00:24:58,212 --> 00:24:59,779
when you have something.
545
00:24:59,823 --> 00:25:02,782
It's just, we think
our four female victims
546
00:25:02,826 --> 00:25:04,266
all belong
to the same support group.
547
00:25:04,290 --> 00:25:08,135
We can't prove it, and...
And I guess I was just hoping.
548
00:25:08,179 --> 00:25:11,313
I was just hoping...
549
00:25:11,356 --> 00:25:14,359
Can I get you a cup of tea?
550
00:25:14,403 --> 00:25:16,143
Yes, please.
551
00:25:19,146 --> 00:25:20,670
You're a good daughter.
552
00:26:03,408 --> 00:26:05,976
Tom?
553
00:26:08,195 --> 00:26:09,955
Did she tell you
where the ticket was issued?
554
00:26:09,979 --> 00:26:11,634
No, just said
it was a parking infraction.
555
00:26:11,677 --> 00:26:13,287
It could be
by the Edwards' house
556
00:26:13,331 --> 00:26:15,377
- or the community center.
- Yeah.
557
00:26:15,420 --> 00:26:17,030
Well, let's get the team on it.
558
00:26:17,074 --> 00:26:19,206
Yeah.
559
00:26:20,817 --> 00:26:23,036
- Thanks for coming over.
- Thanks for reaching out.
560
00:26:25,517 --> 00:26:28,041
Did you... see Jenna?
561
00:26:28,085 --> 00:26:30,870
Did you... talk to her?
562
00:26:32,742 --> 00:26:35,614
I did see her, yes.
563
00:26:35,658 --> 00:26:39,052
And the thing is, you're right.
564
00:26:39,096 --> 00:26:40,445
She's still here.
565
00:26:40,489 --> 00:26:43,579
It's just not in the way
that you think.
566
00:26:45,102 --> 00:26:46,930
There's nothing romantic
567
00:26:46,973 --> 00:26:50,063
about what she's going through.
568
00:26:50,107 --> 00:26:53,719
She's not a guardian angel
watching over you.
569
00:26:53,763 --> 00:26:56,374
She's not trying to get you
that message of love.
570
00:26:56,418 --> 00:26:59,072
She's caught.
571
00:27:00,726 --> 00:27:03,468
I don't understand.
572
00:27:03,512 --> 00:27:06,906
For the last two years...
573
00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:09,256
you haven't wanted
to face the fact
574
00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:11,563
that she's gone.
575
00:27:11,607 --> 00:27:15,088
You want her back so much...
576
00:27:15,132 --> 00:27:18,570
and you keep putting
all of that energy out there,
577
00:27:18,614 --> 00:27:21,138
and it's like she's...
578
00:27:21,181 --> 00:27:22,748
she's driving toward it
579
00:27:22,792 --> 00:27:25,751
even though she can't
get to you.
580
00:27:25,795 --> 00:27:28,580
She will never get to you.
581
00:27:30,756 --> 00:27:33,106
Is she in pain?
582
00:27:33,150 --> 00:27:37,502
I don't think it's pain
like we feel, but...
583
00:27:37,546 --> 00:27:40,505
she isn't at peace.
584
00:27:45,162 --> 00:27:46,990
I think the only way
for this to end
585
00:27:47,033 --> 00:27:50,776
is for one of you
to walk away...
586
00:27:50,820 --> 00:27:53,257
and Jenna can't,
so it has to be you.
587
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,653
How?
588
00:27:57,696 --> 00:28:02,484
I think maybe you should
take your ring off.
589
00:28:04,050 --> 00:28:07,314
It's like it's connecting
you both in a way that...
590
00:28:07,358 --> 00:28:10,970
it's not healthy anymore.
591
00:28:13,886 --> 00:28:16,410
And you're sure
about all of this?
592
00:28:18,587 --> 00:28:21,154
I'm sure about what I saw...
593
00:28:21,198 --> 00:28:24,070
but I'm not always sure
about what it means.
594
00:28:25,681 --> 00:28:26,986
You asked for my help,
595
00:28:27,030 --> 00:28:30,207
and I know you wanted
a message from Jenna...
596
00:28:30,250 --> 00:28:33,515
something you can
think of as closure.
597
00:28:33,558 --> 00:28:36,039
I'm sorry I can't give you that.
598
00:28:37,780 --> 00:28:39,521
When I was wearing this ring,
599
00:28:39,564 --> 00:28:41,958
I felt like Jenna
was still with me.
600
00:28:42,001 --> 00:28:43,655
Yeah.
601
00:28:43,699 --> 00:28:48,007
I guess it's time
to do it on my own.
602
00:28:59,323 --> 00:29:02,413
How will you know it worked?
603
00:29:04,284 --> 00:29:08,245
If you want,
I can go back and check.
604
00:29:08,288 --> 00:29:10,552
What if she's still there?
605
00:29:12,336 --> 00:29:15,600
Then I'll keep trying.
606
00:29:15,644 --> 00:29:18,603
Thank you.
607
00:29:27,612 --> 00:29:29,052
Yeah, that's perfect.
Thanks again.
608
00:29:29,076 --> 00:29:30,049
Bye.
609
00:29:30,093 --> 00:29:31,573
Hey, I think I got it.
610
00:29:31,616 --> 00:29:33,531
A parking ticket was issued
to a motorcycle
611
00:29:33,575 --> 00:29:35,620
parked in the alley behind
Shelly's fitness studio
612
00:29:35,664 --> 00:29:36,839
two weeks ago.
613
00:29:36,882 --> 00:29:38,562
That's when the flowers
were dropped off.
614
00:29:38,586 --> 00:29:40,843
Yeah, and get this:
Wade Modell works
615
00:29:40,886 --> 00:29:42,192
at the Kenmore Flower Market.
616
00:29:42,235 --> 00:29:44,934
He did ten months
on an assault charge in 2016
617
00:29:44,977 --> 00:29:47,240
and he owns a .22.
618
00:29:47,284 --> 00:29:49,591
Very good.
619
00:29:56,510 --> 00:29:58,904
Landlady says Modell isn't home.
620
00:29:58,948 --> 00:30:00,993
Usually gets in around 7:00 p.m.
621
00:30:01,037 --> 00:30:03,213
- What is that?
- It's my dinner.
622
00:30:03,256 --> 00:30:05,737
Not in the car, thank you.
623
00:30:07,260 --> 00:30:09,523
It's Modell.
624
00:30:12,135 --> 00:30:14,790
Stop, police!
625
00:30:16,269 --> 00:30:18,663
Stop!
626
00:30:36,202 --> 00:30:39,118
Wade Modell,
you're under arrest.
627
00:30:39,162 --> 00:30:41,817
You have the right
to remain silent.
628
00:30:43,862 --> 00:30:46,038
Do you know her?
629
00:30:46,082 --> 00:30:47,866
Never seen her before.
630
00:30:48,998 --> 00:30:50,608
Are you sure about that?
631
00:30:50,652 --> 00:30:53,916
So you don't know them either?
632
00:30:53,959 --> 00:30:56,266
What the hell is this?
633
00:30:57,006 --> 00:31:00,009
It's a murder case, Wade.
Serial murder.
634
00:31:00,052 --> 00:31:01,532
II didn't kill anybody.
635
00:31:01,575 --> 00:31:02,683
You delivered flowers
to Shelly Edwards
636
00:31:02,707 --> 00:31:04,317
two weeks before
she was murdered.
637
00:31:04,361 --> 00:31:05,841
You mean at the gym?
638
00:31:05,884 --> 00:31:08,539
I was just doing her a favor.
Doing Shelly a favor?
639
00:31:08,582 --> 00:31:10,802
No, the other lady.
640
00:31:14,632 --> 00:31:16,025
Take us through it, Wade.
641
00:31:16,068 --> 00:31:17,940
Slowly.
642
00:31:17,983 --> 00:31:20,812
This girl comes up
to the stand where I work,
643
00:31:20,856 --> 00:31:23,772
and she buys a big bouquet
of pink carnations.
644
00:31:23,815 --> 00:31:26,215
Said she wanted to get them to
her friend but she had to run.
645
00:31:26,239 --> 00:31:28,559
Gave me 20 bucks to take them
into the city for her
646
00:31:28,602 --> 00:31:30,909
on my bike.
What did she look like?
647
00:31:33,259 --> 00:31:35,914
She was a redhead.
648
00:31:37,699 --> 00:31:40,179
Unis say that no one is home
at Lyla James' place.
649
00:31:40,223 --> 00:31:41,398
They're gonna wait.
650
00:31:41,441 --> 00:31:42,723
There is another car
checking the center.
651
00:31:42,747 --> 00:31:44,587
You're sure about this?
The killer's a woman?
652
00:31:44,611 --> 00:31:45,489
Absolutely.
653
00:31:45,532 --> 00:31:46,814
The support group,
the pink carnations?
654
00:31:46,838 --> 00:31:48,207
Lyla's the only thing
linking them together.
655
00:31:48,231 --> 00:31:49,406
And there were signs.
656
00:31:49,449 --> 00:31:51,538
No sexual assault
on the female victims,
657
00:31:51,582 --> 00:31:52,714
the small caliber hand gun,
658
00:31:52,757 --> 00:31:54,890
the fact that every woman
opened the door.
659
00:31:54,933 --> 00:31:56,326
They trusted her.
660
00:31:56,369 --> 00:31:59,242
She's that nice woman
that works at the center.
661
00:31:59,285 --> 00:32:01,766
Lyla James was engaged in 2014,
662
00:32:01,810 --> 00:32:04,116
but her fianc� broke it off
the day of the wedding.
663
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,552
The theme was pink carnations.
664
00:32:05,596 --> 00:32:07,859
They put an order in
at every shop in the city.
665
00:32:07,903 --> 00:32:10,079
Eight months later,
Lyla's groom eloped
666
00:32:10,122 --> 00:32:11,428
with their wedding planner.
667
00:32:11,471 --> 00:32:13,386
This weekend
was their anniversary...
668
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:15,171
Ashley and Joni Bennett.
669
00:32:17,260 --> 00:32:19,218
- Ashley's a guy.
- When he got married
670
00:32:19,262 --> 00:32:20,587
to someone else,
that's when Lyla snapped.
671
00:32:20,611 --> 00:32:22,178
Lyla's parents say
she was devastated.
672
00:32:22,221 --> 00:32:23,266
She's been in and out
673
00:32:23,309 --> 00:32:25,094
of psychiatric hospitals
ever since.
674
00:32:25,137 --> 00:32:26,095
They thought
she was getting better.
675
00:32:26,138 --> 00:32:27,531
They were very mistaken.
676
00:32:27,574 --> 00:32:29,534
Lyla didn't show up
for her shift at the center.
677
00:32:29,558 --> 00:32:31,578
No one's seen her for 24 hours.
She's on the run.
678
00:32:31,622 --> 00:32:33,580
We've put out a BOLO,
she won't get far.
679
00:32:33,624 --> 00:32:35,234
Question is,
what's her next move?
680
00:32:35,278 --> 00:32:37,518
Lyla's been murdering proxies
for the last three years.
681
00:32:37,542 --> 00:32:39,586
The newlywed victims
were just stand-ins
682
00:32:39,630 --> 00:32:40,762
for Ashley and his wife.
683
00:32:40,805 --> 00:32:42,328
Why didn't she kill them first?
684
00:32:42,372 --> 00:32:44,766
In Lyla's mind, what she
feels for Ashley is true love.
685
00:32:44,809 --> 00:32:47,333
Maybe she was hoping
he'd come back for her.
686
00:32:47,377 --> 00:32:48,944
Well, that dream is over.
687
00:32:48,987 --> 00:32:50,907
You think she'd be
going after the Bennetts next?
688
00:32:50,931 --> 00:32:53,775
- It's a possibility.
- It's a distinct possibility.
689
00:32:53,818 --> 00:32:57,604
We need to get them
into protective custody, now.
690
00:33:29,027 --> 00:33:30,637
Surprise.
691
00:33:49,569 --> 00:33:53,138
Yeah, yeah, I got it.
But listen, are you okay?
692
00:33:54,661 --> 00:33:57,490
All right, appreciate the call.
693
00:33:57,534 --> 00:33:59,101
Cassie?
694
00:33:59,144 --> 00:34:02,191
Redheaded woman just tried to
drown her in her own bathtub.
695
00:34:02,234 --> 00:34:04,062
Lyla's already at the house.
696
00:34:24,604 --> 00:34:25,736
Look at him.
697
00:34:25,779 --> 00:34:27,085
I said, look at him!
698
00:34:27,129 --> 00:34:29,609
He's dying, and it's your fault.
699
00:34:29,653 --> 00:34:32,395
You made me do this,
both of you.
700
00:34:32,438 --> 00:34:35,311
All these years he should have
been with me.
701
00:34:35,354 --> 00:34:38,227
He needed me,
but you tricked him!
702
00:34:38,270 --> 00:34:40,229
Stole him from me!
703
00:34:40,272 --> 00:34:42,753
You made him believe
our love didn't matter,
704
00:34:42,796 --> 00:34:45,408
but it's everything to us.
705
00:34:45,451 --> 00:34:47,758
You still love me, Ashley,
don't you?
706
00:34:47,801 --> 00:34:50,282
Even now.
707
00:34:50,326 --> 00:34:51,936
You know we would have been
happy forever
708
00:34:51,980 --> 00:34:54,199
if this bitch hadn't ruined it.
709
00:34:54,243 --> 00:34:57,594
But don't worry,
she's gonna pay.
710
00:34:57,637 --> 00:34:59,030
Say good-bye.
711
00:34:59,074 --> 00:35:00,640
Let's go, your turn.
712
00:35:00,684 --> 00:35:01,946
Lyla!
713
00:35:01,990 --> 00:35:04,514
Drop your weapon
or I'll kill her.
714
00:35:04,557 --> 00:35:06,820
Do it or she's dead!
715
00:35:16,656 --> 00:35:19,268
That's quite a scam
you had there, Lyla.
716
00:35:19,311 --> 00:35:22,314
Start a club
for unhappy newlywed brides,
717
00:35:22,358 --> 00:35:25,535
pick them off one by one.
718
00:35:25,578 --> 00:35:28,059
They were like lambs
to the slaughter, weren't they?
719
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:35,197
I didn't think anyone
would even sign up.
720
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:37,939
Who doesn't want to be married?
721
00:35:37,982 --> 00:35:39,941
But I had more
than I could handle.
722
00:35:39,984 --> 00:35:42,247
This one?
723
00:35:42,291 --> 00:35:44,554
She didn't want
to be married either.
724
00:35:44,597 --> 00:35:47,296
She joked about it with me
while we were sampling cakes
725
00:35:47,339 --> 00:35:48,950
for my wedding.
726
00:35:48,993 --> 00:35:50,429
Eight months later,
727
00:35:50,473 --> 00:35:53,215
I hear Ashley had
to talk her into eloping.
728
00:35:53,258 --> 00:35:55,957
Had to get down
on both knees and beg.
729
00:35:58,133 --> 00:36:01,266
Why do men want women
who don't want them?
730
00:36:03,051 --> 00:36:04,487
I don't know.
731
00:36:04,530 --> 00:36:08,317
I would ask them that,
the women...
732
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,450
while the tub was filling
and their men were dying...
733
00:36:11,494 --> 00:36:14,366
and they didn't know either.
734
00:36:14,410 --> 00:36:17,369
They were so sorry.
735
00:36:17,413 --> 00:36:20,285
"Do you love him now?"
I would ask.
736
00:36:20,329 --> 00:36:22,157
"Do you wish you had
another chance
737
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,856
to show him just how much
he means to you?"
738
00:36:25,899 --> 00:36:27,814
You know what they said?
739
00:36:27,858 --> 00:36:30,426
All of them?
740
00:36:30,469 --> 00:36:32,080
"I do."
741
00:36:32,123 --> 00:36:33,690
Lyla, no!
742
00:36:35,257 --> 00:36:37,607
Don't move.
743
00:36:52,274 --> 00:36:53,840
Thanks for coming with me.
744
00:36:53,884 --> 00:36:55,886
My pleasure.
745
00:37:12,250 --> 00:37:14,600
I think she's gone.
746
00:37:18,604 --> 00:37:19,953
It worked.
747
00:37:22,652 --> 00:37:24,610
I couldn't have done it
without you.
748
00:37:24,654 --> 00:37:27,483
Well, I'm not so sure
about that.
749
00:37:31,617 --> 00:37:35,143
This is gonna sound
so selfish, but...
750
00:37:35,186 --> 00:37:37,623
I need you to be okay.
751
00:37:39,538 --> 00:37:43,368
I can't have anything
happen to you.
752
00:37:43,412 --> 00:37:45,805
Where is this coming from?
753
00:37:45,849 --> 00:37:49,418
Lately, you've been
forgetting things,
754
00:37:49,461 --> 00:37:52,551
and when you say you remember
I think you're lying.
755
00:37:54,684 --> 00:37:57,600
I'm scared...
756
00:37:57,643 --> 00:38:00,385
and I need you
to get checked out.
757
00:38:00,429 --> 00:38:03,954
You know, doctors
make the worst patients.
758
00:38:04,955 --> 00:38:06,783
Please?
759
00:38:14,530 --> 00:38:17,272
Okay.
760
00:38:17,315 --> 00:38:19,578
- I will.
- Okay.
761
00:38:19,622 --> 00:38:21,319
I promise.
762
00:38:26,173 --> 00:38:27,693
That was County Medical
on the phone.
763
00:38:27,717 --> 00:38:30,894
It was touch and go, but
Ashley Bennett's gonna live.
764
00:38:30,937 --> 00:38:33,984
So that's eight counts
of first-degree murder
765
00:38:34,027 --> 00:38:35,159
for Lyla instead of nine.
766
00:38:35,203 --> 00:38:36,682
Still enough for life in prison.
767
00:38:36,726 --> 00:38:39,076
Well, Lyla's parents
have hired an attorney
768
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,774
and he's already making noise
about an insanity defense.
769
00:38:41,818 --> 00:38:44,168
I predict
she'll go down swinging.
770
00:38:44,212 --> 00:38:46,823
At least she's going down.
771
00:38:53,699 --> 00:38:56,093
Melinda, I was gonna call you
in the morning.
772
00:38:56,137 --> 00:38:58,487
That's okay, I already know.
773
00:38:58,530 --> 00:39:01,881
Yeah?
774
00:39:01,925 --> 00:39:04,275
She's free.
775
00:39:04,319 --> 00:39:07,496
I can feel it.
776
00:39:07,539 --> 00:39:10,194
Thank you so much.
777
00:39:12,631 --> 00:39:15,156
And I meant what I said
about catching up.
778
00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:16,505
I miss you.
779
00:39:16,548 --> 00:39:18,811
I could really use a friend
right now.
780
00:39:18,855 --> 00:39:21,074
Me, too.
781
00:39:21,118 --> 00:39:23,207
- I'll call you.
- Yeah.
782
00:39:23,251 --> 00:39:26,558
Bye.
783
00:39:30,492 --> 00:39:33,495
Still got an empty glass.
784
00:39:36,782 --> 00:39:38,571
- Top it off.
- Yep.
785
00:39:38,597 --> 00:39:40,424
Hey, another one?
786
00:39:41,095 --> 00:39:43,618
Yeah, sure.
787
00:39:43,644 --> 00:39:45,423
You seem a little down
788
00:39:45,449 --> 00:39:47,581
for a guy who just caught
a serial killer.
789
00:39:47,736 --> 00:39:51,609
No, I'm no, it's just...
790
00:39:51,653 --> 00:39:53,437
I bought into
some easy assumptions
791
00:39:53,481 --> 00:39:56,135
thinking it had to be a guy.
792
00:39:56,617 --> 00:39:58,547
Could have cost the
investigation months of time.
793
00:39:58,573 --> 00:40:00,352
Another couple
could have lost their lives.
794
00:40:00,397 --> 00:40:02,742
Yeah, but they didn't.
795
00:40:02,868 --> 00:40:04,002
I'm starting to think
796
00:40:04,048 --> 00:40:06,485
that you and I
aren't that different
797
00:40:06,529 --> 00:40:08,306
in terms of what we do.
798
00:40:08,524 --> 00:40:10,305
Hey, can I get another?
799
00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:14,058
The information comes in,
and we decipher it.
800
00:40:14,084 --> 00:40:15,912
We interpret it.
801
00:40:16,086 --> 00:40:19,350
We see if it fits this puzzle
that we're putting together.
802
00:40:20,959 --> 00:40:23,483
We do the best we can.
803
00:40:25,121 --> 00:40:26,209
Here.
804
00:40:27,023 --> 00:40:28,478
Thank you.
805
00:40:49,133 --> 00:40:50,918
Jenna?
806
00:40:52,267 --> 00:40:54,879
I just wanted to say thank you.
807
00:40:56,152 --> 00:40:58,981
And I want to see
one last sunrise before I go.
808
00:41:07,511 --> 00:41:10,035
You're all right.
809
00:41:11,907 --> 00:41:14,997
I'm glad I could help.
810
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,696
Do me a favor and don't tell
Melinda you saw me.
811
00:41:18,740 --> 00:41:21,351
Are you sure?
812
00:41:21,394 --> 00:41:24,267
It's better this way.
813
00:41:24,310 --> 00:41:26,704
Melinda told me about you.
814
00:41:26,748 --> 00:41:28,793
Her best friend
from high school.
815
00:41:28,837 --> 00:41:31,622
She said you could see ghosts
and scary things
816
00:41:31,666 --> 00:41:33,842
that weren't there.
817
00:41:33,885 --> 00:41:36,409
And I remember thinking...
818
00:41:36,453 --> 00:41:38,934
"That must suck."
819
00:41:40,588 --> 00:41:42,415
Sometimes.
820
00:41:44,592 --> 00:41:48,421
But not today.
821
00:41:50,983 --> 00:41:52,983
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