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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,680 {\an1} Leave Michael alone! 2 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,280 Leave Michael alone! Leave Michael alone! 3 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,760 Breaking news once again. So, stand by here on Fox News Live. 4 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,800 Michael Jackson, of course, facing seven counts of child molestation, 5 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,120 two counts of administering an intoxicating agent to a child. 6 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,600 He's facing 20 years. 7 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,400 Fans started arriving in the middle of the night 8 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,440 to get a good seat or stand right next to the courthouse. 9 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,840 The famous arraignment. Oh, my gosh. 10 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,560 The entire world converged on Santa Maria. 11 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,280 More than 1,000 journalists. 12 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,440 {\an8}I was there for all of it. 13 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,680 He is fighting these molestation charges 14 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,480 and he is going to do everything he can. 15 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,000 - Michael's innocent! - Michael's innocent! 16 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,200 I think, on my deathbed, 17 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:14,120 certain events will flash before my eyes because it was that intense. 18 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:16,840 Michael Jackson, 19 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,160 his motorcade winding its way to the courthouse 20 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,560 under police motorcycle escort. 21 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,400 I was about four or five miles to get to the courthouse 22 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,640 and the cops with their sirens blaring. 23 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,520 {\an1}SIRENS 24 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,640 There were six motorcycle cops. 25 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,640 {\an8}Not even the President gets that! 26 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,840 {\an8}It was a zoo. 27 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,520 {\an1}COMMOTION 28 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,680 What can you tell us outside there, 29 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,120 the Santa Maria courthouse? We heard cheers. 30 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,000 He arrived about 8.45. 31 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,400 Michael did stop to acknowledge the hundreds of fans. 32 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,520 It was just sheer craziness. 33 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,160 I was there trying to record it with my videographer. 34 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,840 His entourage is coming up. 35 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,360 And Michael was telling his videographer, "Get that, get that". 36 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,120 Michael Jackson was orchestrating. 37 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,160 There are people out there from all over the world. 38 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,800 So, I think it's quite a spontaneous outpouring of support 39 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,200 that is nice to see. 40 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,480 A lot of those fans were bussed up there 41 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,680 from Las Vegas, from San Diego, from Los Angeles. 42 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,200 So, while his attorney called it a "spontaneous outpouring" of love, 43 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,240 it was actually highly orchestrated. 44 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,320 It shows Michael Jackson's genius at spectacle. 45 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,360 Members of a black separatist group, 46 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,080 the Nation of Islam, flanked the streets. 47 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,920 They're reported to be protecting and possibly advising the singer. 48 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,600 Jermaine Jackson brings the Nation of Islam. 49 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,680 And when they marched ahead of Michael, 50 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,320 it was the most amazing sight I had ever seen, 51 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,120 this show of force. 52 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:13,120 There is a strategy behind trying to galvanise the black community. 53 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,400 White folks are doing this. White folks are prosecuting him. 54 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,440 White folks are accusing him. 55 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,320 And he's come to us for help. We're going to help. 56 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,120 And Michael knew that, 57 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,680 and he used that. 58 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,400 {\an8}As we were arriving at the courthouse, 59 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,400 {\an8}there were three helicopters flying over, circling. 60 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,080 There were a few thousand demonstrators, literally screaming. 61 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,160 This was child molestation. 62 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,480 He's a 15-year-old kid. 63 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,280 He's a 15-year-old kid who's a cancer survivor. 64 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,920 {\an8}You didn't see him crying or holding his head down 65 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,880 {\an8}because he knew he was innocent. 66 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:02,520 During his time in court, 67 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,400 Michael would call me at two and three in the morning. 68 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,120 "You've got to go out there and tell people I'm innocent"... 69 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,320 Michael feels very confident in his defence team, 70 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,320 and we have a long way to go. 71 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,200 ..and that's what I did. 72 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,080 Michael Jackson leaving Judge Rodney Melville's courtroom. 73 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,600 We know that Jackson nodded when he asked if he understood the charges. 74 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,120 He said "not guilty" when asked for his plea. 75 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,880 Michael Jackson walks out of court, surrounded by his family, 76 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,240 surrounded by bodyguards. 77 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:42,120 And when he's about to get into his SUV limo, all hell breaks loose. 78 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,920 - Oh, my goodness, look at this. - Look at these people. 79 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,360 - He is jumping on top of the car. - Oh, we see him. 80 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,880 - He is truly performing for his fans. - Look at that. - Truly performing. 81 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,200 The crowd is just going completely insane. 82 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,960 And he's just turning around, and kind of doing a move. 83 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,120 Consequently, what was happening outside court made the headlines 84 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,760 as opposed to what was happening inside court. 85 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,120 Brilliant strategy. 86 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,360 Pull focus. Pull focus. 87 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,760 {\an1}CROWD NOISE 88 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,080 A lot of people said, hey, that's just disrespectful. 89 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,040 That's not the way you conduct yourself. 90 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,800 You'd conduct yourself with decorum. 91 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:32,560 Any attorney will tell his client - 92 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,720 {\an8}"No, no, no, you show respect. You don't..." 93 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,440 {\an8}Uh-uh, not Michael Jackson. 94 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,200 {\an8}If you want the world to know you are innocent, 95 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,840 you show your face to everybody 96 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,080 that you are not afraid. 97 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,840 And that's what he did. 98 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,560 {\an1}INDISTINCT CHANTING 99 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,400 I think people believe what they want to believe. 100 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,080 And it's not necessarily based on logic. 101 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,520 I think it's based on emotion. 102 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,680 He had the ability to be able to convince them 103 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,920 of things that are otherwise unbelievable. 104 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:51,680 And I think that created for him a sense of invincibility. 105 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,880 But, from the prosecution standpoint, 106 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,680 we knew we were dealing with a paedophile. 107 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,440 And he was a paedophile who could abuse children almost with impunity. 108 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,320 And we felt that we had enough corroborative evidence 109 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,440 to be able to win the case. 110 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,400 Michael was feeling frightened. 111 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,680 Pure, plain and simple, he was scared to death. 112 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,560 He called in the middle of the night, he was so upset. 113 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,160 "Brian, why are they doing this to me?" 114 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,800 {\an8}"Because your name is Michael Jackson." 115 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,200 {\an8}If your name were Smith, Jones, 116 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,480 they'd throw this case out in a hot second. 117 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,200 This is a fraudulent scam. 118 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,560 Gavin Arvizo was misrepresenting, 119 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,400 telling fantasies and false statements. 120 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,040 He says, "How are we going to win, Brian?" 121 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,160 And I said, "We have to overturn every stone." 122 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:11,080 It means subpoenaing and interviewing every witness there is. 123 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,480 And Michael said, "Do it, Brian. That's what you're going to do." 124 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,840 I said, "You bet." 125 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,720 Another allegation of sexual abuse 126 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,600 was going to bankrupt Michael Jackson, and they knew it. 127 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,560 {\an8}They knew what the consequence of a child coming forward 128 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,880 {\an8}and making another allegation of child sexual abuse 129 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,560 was going to be 130 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,280 because of what happened with Jordan Chandler back in '93. 131 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,160 Pop superstar Michael Jackson is facing allegations of child abuse, 132 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,880 and Los Angeles police have launched a criminal investigation. 133 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,880 This is the boy at the centre of the allegations. 134 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,320 13-year-old Jordan Chandler was pictured with Michael Jackson 135 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,920 on holiday in Monte Carlo earlier this year. 136 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,400 In 1993, 137 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,040 I was Michael Jackson's 138 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,280 {\an8}personal chambermaid for his bedroom. 139 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,360 I think he chose me because I was quiet 140 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:18,480 and I think... 141 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,000 ..he thought that he could keep his secrets with me. 142 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,640 Hold on. Let me use the inhaler. 143 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:42,920 {\an1}- SHE COUGHS - Sorry. 144 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,880 Sometimes when I think of him, I get asthma. 145 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,000 I'm sorry! Sorry. I'm probably crazy. 146 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,440 I don't know. 147 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,240 There were always little boys, 148 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,640 different little boys at Neverland... 149 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,160 ..running around the property... 150 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,320 {\an1}HAPPY CHATTER 151 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:15,840 ..at the theatre, watching movies, with no parents around. 152 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:21,120 And I think he'd get a kick out of watching them 153 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,640 fight for his attention. 154 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:33,840 There was one day when Mr Jackson had come into his bedroom 155 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,680 with one of his little friends, 156 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,400 and his little friend was Jordy Chandler. 157 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,240 I was cleaning the stairwell 158 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,080 and, so, I kind of glanced, 159 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,040 and where they stood, they couldn't see me. 160 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:58,800 And I saw Mr Jackson kissing Jordy on the cheek near his mouth, 161 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,760 and I saw his hand by his crotch, 162 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,600 and I was bothered by seeing that, very, very bothered. 163 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,680 I didn't...I didn't... 164 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,200 I fought that I didn't want to believe Michael Jackson was... 165 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,560 ..was a man who had a problem with little boys. 166 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,040 They had been in a jacuzzi. 167 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,120 They changed their clothes and they took off. 168 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,280 It was, it was an awful feeling. I can't even explain it. 169 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,640 And then, you know, I kept thinking, well, maybe... 170 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:41,760 maybe that's not...what I'm seeing. 171 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,600 You know, you start questioning yourself for what you did see. 172 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,360 And, you know, and then, you think, well... 173 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,120 you can't just call the police over there. 174 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,560 They're going to think you're crazy. 175 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,480 My detective supervisor says, 176 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:08,160 {\an8}"Hey, Rose, I have a case, and I need you to investigate. 177 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,680 "We have allegations from a young victim 178 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:16,280 "that Michael Jackson sexually molested him on numerous occasions." 179 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,640 So, I'm like, Michael Jackson? You're kidding, right? 180 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:22,720 It was almost unbelievable. 181 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,200 {\an8}The media, they found out right away. 182 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,520 So, it was all, pfft, all over the news. 183 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,440 That very same day, we went out to the victim's home. 184 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,200 I introduced myself, and then, began my interview. 185 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,960 One of the first things he talked about, 186 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,040 being in Las Vegas with Michael Jackson. 187 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,880 The parents became very comfortable with Michael Jackson 188 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:11,360 and allowed the victim to spend time with Michael alone. 189 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,280 They were seen hugging and touching. 190 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:28,680 Jackson was talking to the kid, and the kid was...overwhelmed, 191 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,600 according to him, you know, seeing his star 192 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,360 and being able to touch him, and say, wow. 193 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,160 This is the grooming process. 194 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,120 That night, in his suite, 195 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,040 Michael asked him, "Come on, let's watch a movie." 196 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,000 The movie was The Exorcist. 197 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,000 He was petrified. 198 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,120 Michael said, "Would you like to stay here, sleep with me?" 199 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,760 And they did. 200 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:26,160 The victim described the abuse initially began with 201 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,760 fondling, kissing. 202 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:36,680 Later on, it progressed to more aggressive sexual contact. 203 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:44,960 When Mum found out that the child had slept with Michael Jackson, 204 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,360 she became pretty upset. 205 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,440 Whenever he was confronted by a parent, Michael would start crying. 206 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,320 He made himself the victim. 207 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,200 You know, "How can you think this of me? 208 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,560 "Oh, my God, I would never do anything like that. 209 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,120 "You know, I love children. You have to trust me." 210 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,640 Michael Jackson today refused to comment 211 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,280 on the police investigation 212 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,840 as he prepared for the first stage of his world tour in Thailand. 213 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,000 {\an8}I remember when the allegations came out, 214 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,280 {\an8}the Jackson family, they held a press conference. 215 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,680 We join you here today as a family united, 216 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,960 a family that has struggled from the bottom up. 217 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,760 The family felt like somebody was trying to shake him down. 218 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,600 Michael has been made a victim, 219 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,840 in a cruel obvious attempt to take advantage of his fame and success. 220 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:08,960 The most important thing to them was that this image they had to protect. 221 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,120 Certainly, in the black community, 222 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,200 they were always like... 223 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:18,120 "We're the black Kennedys. We are America's royalty." 224 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:24,160 Believe me, in 1993, the Jackson family was extremely powerful. 225 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,280 And, boy, oh, boy, did they ever come to his defence. 226 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,080 Jackson's Mr Fix-It - 227 00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:34,440 private investigator Anthony Pellicano, 228 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,480 one of Hollywood's most powerful people, 229 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,640 called in to do damage control. 230 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,000 This strategy - 231 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,280 it was about protecting the golden goose, number one, 232 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,320 but also protecting the family's name. 233 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:50,760 Now you're seeing him start to take on this... 234 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:55,960 victimhood mentality, this victim mentality. 235 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,800 "It's not me. It's somebody else who's the bad guy." 236 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:05,440 Good morning, everyone. 237 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,840 {\an8}The Michael Jackson child sex abuse investigation is expanding. 238 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,040 Authorities are looking into his relationships now 239 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,320 with at least four boys. 240 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:18,680 The names were given by the victim's mum. 241 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:23,600 She had a list of all the children that they met. 242 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,800 There were a lot of times where we went to locations 243 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,320 to interview people, Anthony Pellicano was there before we were. 244 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,920 First was Wade Robson. 245 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,240 Michael was helping him with his music career, 246 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,160 he brought him from Australia 247 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,080 because Michael saw the talent that he had. 248 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,680 When we got there, he refused to open the door at the beginning. 249 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,040 They basically, you know, said, 250 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,400 "Look, Anthony Pellicano was here. We spoke to him. 251 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,960 "He says that we're not obligated to speak to the police. 252 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,560 "He's working for Michael Jackson 253 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,480 "and Michael Jackson never abused me." 254 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,960 Wade Robson denied everything. 255 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,080 Then, Mr Pellicano put the children on TV. 256 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,280 I know Michael very well. I know he wouldn't do anything like that. 257 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,880 - Has he ever tried. - To do anything with you 258 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,360 that would even be considered questionable? 259 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,040 No, nothing. 260 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,840 With Brett Barnes, it was the same thing. 261 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,360 "He's a great man, and we don't have anything to say." 262 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:38,800 When you'd have sleepovers 263 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,920 and you'd stay in the same room or the same bed, 264 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,840 did that seem unusual to you at all? 265 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,880 No, because I slept on one side of the bed, he slept on the other, 266 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,600 and that was that. 267 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,520 It was a ruthless with, you know what they did. 268 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,400 They really just had absolutely no regard. 269 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:59,920 They all negated that they were victims. 270 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,760 Things at Neverland changed dramatically. 271 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,360 Michael brought these seven bodyguards back 272 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,480 And they would harass the employees. 273 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,560 They had guns. 274 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,680 They'd point them at people. They didn't care. 275 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,920 They'd do whatever they can do to scare you to just shut the hell up. 276 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,840 One day, I was in his bedroom, and he was standing by his bed, 277 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,200 and out of the blue, he says, "Adrian, you know, 278 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,160 "if you ever say or do anything that I don't like, 279 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,680 "all I have to do is tell security 280 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,200 "and they would take care of you, but it wouldn't come from me." 281 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,320 I thought, you're threatening me. 282 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,360 And then, I got a subpoena, and I had to give a deposition. 283 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:03,640 My head was spinning. 284 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:14,000 I was questioned about what I had seen with Mr Jackson and Jordy. 285 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,200 I was young, I was scared, very mixed up, 286 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,000 and Michael had some kind of control over me. 287 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,160 And, um... 288 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:34,840 ..I didn't say what I should have said, which was the truth. 289 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,440 And I held it back. 290 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,920 Amid all Michael Jackson's troubles, it finally seemed 291 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,400 he'd gotten his family in line behind him. 292 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,160 Except, of course, for the renegade LaToya. 293 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,400 Michael is my brother. I love him a great deal. 294 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,280 {\an8}but I cannot, and I will not be a silent collaborator 295 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,560 {\an8}of his crimes against small, innocent children. 296 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,440 What 35-year-old man 297 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,840 is going to take a little boy and stay with him for 30 days? 298 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,000 It blew everyone away. 299 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:15,200 The family is horrified and angry at the same time. 300 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,720 There's no validity to what she is saying, it is absolutely not true. 301 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,120 My brother is not a child molester. 302 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,520 LaToya is lying. And I'll tell her to her face she's lying. 303 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,680 LaToya was ostracised for that, 304 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,600 and not only was she ostracised from the family, 305 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,000 but fans turned on her in droves. 306 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,240 Oh, hi, Steve. 307 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,920 Michael was raised by a very pious mother. 308 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,920 {\an8}I mean, any time I walked in on her, she was reading the Bible 309 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,760 {\an8}and Michael was raised in that milieu. 310 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,920 He was deeply connected to his mother 311 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,440 who offered unconditional love and acceptance. 312 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,920 # La da da da da... # 313 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,360 {\an1}PIANO ACCOMPANIMENT 314 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,040 {\an1}APPLAUSE 315 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,480 {\an8}The family of a teenage boy is dropping its charge 316 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,360 {\an8}that Michael Jackson molested the boy. 317 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:39,200 The case was settled, in secret, reportedly for millions. 318 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,800 The resolution of this case is in no way 319 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,360 an admission of guilt by Michael Jackson. 320 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,240 I felt the victim was very credible. 321 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,040 But, once that was settled, our case was gone. 322 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,600 It was killed. 323 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,080 Case closed. 324 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,200 One afternoon, I was cleaning in Michael's room 325 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,120 and he came up to me and he said, "Adrian, this is for you." 326 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,840 And he handed me an index card, 327 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,280 and he wrote on it, "Adrian, thanks for everything." 328 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,080 I opened it, and it was three $100 bills. 329 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:28,160 I felt like that was a payoff to cover up for him. 330 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,360 Kind of sad, so, I don't know. 331 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,920 Can you guys hold on? 332 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,520 Because my eyes feel like they're glossy. 333 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,280 Because I feel, like, stupid. 334 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:49,480 Just dumb mistakes you make in life 335 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,680 that, you know, you shouldn't do sometimes, and I did it. 336 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,600 But you live and learn. 337 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,160 Is that restroom open? 338 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,920 - Sure. - OK. Let me just... 339 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,320 Because I don't want, I don't want then to, um... 340 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,880 Back in 1993, 341 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,520 Jordan Chandler became one of the wealthiest 13-year-olds 342 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,840 in America overnight, with the settlement of that case. 343 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,240 Did I feel that justice wasn't done? Sure. 344 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,880 But the Arvizo family was very different. 345 00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:33,480 They were determined that they weren't going to take money. 346 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,160 Gavin was going to testify. 347 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,000 After five weeks of jury selection, the trial of 348 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,600 the singer Michael Jackson will begin in California later today. 349 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,920 Celebrity justice correspondent Jane Velez-Michell 350 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,560 has been following the case. She joins us from Santa Barbara... 351 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,840 {\an8}This is a Shakespearean tragedy. It's an American tragedy. 352 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,520 {\an8}It's a human tragedy. 353 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,160 There was a certain sense of privilege of being able to cover it. 354 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,720 What do we know about the 12-year-old? 355 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,280 The story today is he's a cancer survivor. 356 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,440 There was so much media there you would have thought 357 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,720 it was like a national political convention. 358 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,720 Michael Jackson, arriving with his mother and brother Jermaine, 359 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,960 was greeted by both cheers and jeers. 360 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,760 The entire world was focussed on whether Michael Jackson 361 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,360 is or is not a paedophile. 362 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,120 {\an8}This was the most expensive prosecution 363 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,240 {\an8}in the history of Santa Barbara County. 364 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,520 And Michael Jackson's word against theirs. 365 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,120 They say he exposes kids to alcohol, porn and strange sexual behaviour. 366 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,920 He is very serious, subdued. 367 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,080 He came in, he waved briefly to his fans. 368 00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:25,240 He came in with Jermaine, his brother, and his mother... 369 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:30,160 He was elaborately dressed, sort of a regal thing. 370 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,000 He also wore a band, 371 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,200 and I guess the significance of the band was 372 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,640 for him saying, I'm innocent. 373 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,880 Innocent! 374 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,720 From everything I've seen, and I've heard and I've followed, 375 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,680 he's inno... There's no way he's guilty, you know. 376 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,480 - Michael! Innocent! - Michael! Innocent! 377 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,240 The sale of his records soared. 378 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,520 I said, "Michael, your records are selling like hotcakes. 379 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,080 "Your fans believe in you." 380 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,840 Michael! Michael! 381 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,520 And I am going to prove you innocent. 382 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,400 The jury in the Michael Jackson trial 383 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,120 will hear two very different stories when opening statements begin today. 384 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,640 The defence is expected to describe Jackson as the victim 385 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,200 of a money-hungry mum who coached her son to lie for cash. 386 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,680 The prosecution, on the other hand, 387 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,680 will paint Jackson as a wicked paedophile 388 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,880 who got a sick boy drunk, to molest him. 389 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,720 {\an8}Did I ever feel that we had it in the bag? No, not at all. Not at all. 390 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,320 I knew that, ultimately, for a jury, 391 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:30,720 it would be very easy for them to absolve themselves 392 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,720 of any of the responsibility of him going off into prison. 393 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,560 That was my biggest fear. 394 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,240 Now it's all up to them, the jury. Four men, eight women. 395 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,520 {\an8}You're very conscious of what you're doing 396 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,080 {\an8}and what the magnitude of your participation is. 397 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,480 It's Michael Jackson's legacy up for grabs. 398 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,360 Is he going to be remembered as this person that just loved children? 399 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,280 Or one of the world's greatest entertainers 400 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,760 who was a child molester? 401 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,840 It was Martin Bashir's documentary 402 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,320 Living With Michael Jackson 403 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,440 which prompted an investigation which led to this trial. 404 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,520 When people hear that children from other families 405 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,240 have come and they've stayed in your house, 406 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,640 they've stayed in your bedroom. 407 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,920 Well, very few. 408 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,960 But, you know, some have. 409 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,640 I thought that was good, compelling evidence for us 410 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,240 is the admission that he sleeps with kids. 411 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,760 Is that really appropriate for a man, a grown man, to be doing that? 412 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,320 How do you respond to that? 413 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,360 I feel sorry for them because that's judging someone 414 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,200 who wants to really help people. 415 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,720 Why can't you share your bed? 416 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,760 The most loving thing to do is 417 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,080 to share your bed with someone, you know. 418 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,520 - You really think that? - Yeah. 419 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,000 Martin Bashir's reaction to it 420 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,280 I thought was the reaction a reasonable person would have. 421 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,760 How do you justify having children in your bed? 422 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,520 What other adult man do you know anywhere in the world 423 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,000 who does that, other than a paedophile? 424 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,960 Who would you be willing to let your children sleep with 425 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,720 in terms of an adult man? 426 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,920 And the answer is nobody. 427 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,080 The defence set out to undermine 428 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,400 Martin Bashir's credibility, bombarding him with questions 429 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,360 most of which he refused to answer, 430 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,000 citing a journalist's right to protect his sources. 431 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,200 Jackson and Gavin had a very emotional connection. 432 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,080 When they first met, Gavin was recovering from cancer, 433 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,920 he had been horribly sick, 434 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,320 and Michael Jackson was there to offer support. 435 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,560 Gavin said Michael would do things that would take down inhibitions. 436 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,720 And then, it escalates into increasingly sexual language. 437 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,160 So, he is desensitising kids. 438 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,360 He makes them feel like they're culpable. 439 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,360 He uses the word "we". 440 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,280 "We're doing this. We'd be in trouble." 441 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:19,520 He incorporates the child in all of the misbehaviour. 442 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,360 You're already in trouble for drinking alcohol, 443 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,160 watching porn, like, there's already a million things 444 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,960 your mom can never know about by the time you're abused. 445 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,600 Michael Jackson's public persona was the person who just loved children. 446 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,360 And what he was trying to convince people of was that 447 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,080 he really was the modern-day Peter Pan. 448 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,680 But there is no such thing as Peter Pan. 449 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,440 What he was always doing was looking for a child 450 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,240 that he could eventually get into his bed. 451 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,880 And, of course, it was Gavin who was the target of his attentions. 452 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,160 For Gavin, it was worse than getting cancer 453 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,680 which...how can you say that? How can anybody say that about anything? 454 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,920 I know Gavin, and Gavin, he's just a very truthful person. 455 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,840 He isn't the person that wants to hang on to a lot of baggage. 456 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,440 He's just going to confront what this is 457 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,520 and deal with the repercussions. 458 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,080 Hey, little guy. 459 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,920 The key witnesses in this extraordinary trial 460 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,960 whisked into court this morning through a side entrance - 461 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,120 Gavin, Michael Jackson's accuser. 462 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,600 It's the big moment of the trial. The accuser is taking the stand. 463 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,720 The heart of the testimony is going to be delivered by the accuser 464 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,680 on this day. 465 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,240 I was standing right there outside the courthouse 466 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,680 waiting for Michael Jackson to arrive. 467 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,800 And that is the day that Michael Jackson doesn't come to court! 468 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,960 His face etched with anxiety, 469 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,360 Michael Jackson's lawyer waits for a client who's gone missing. 470 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,640 The judge says... 471 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,840 .."You better get to court within the hour 472 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,120 "or I'm going to arrest you." 473 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,400 We're just waiting on pins and needles, 474 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,480 literally staring at where the car is supposed to show up. 475 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,720 Everybody's like, is he going to show? Isn't he going to show? 476 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,200 What on Earth is going on here? 477 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,440 There was this giant motorcade, helicopters above 478 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,520 as Michael Jackson raced from the hospital to the courthouse. 479 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:48,200 They were driving up the 101 freeway at 110 miles an hour 480 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,640 because the judge said, if you're not here in an hour, 481 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,880 I'm forfeiting your bail. 482 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,240 Somebody was going to get killed. 483 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,320 I was furious. 484 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,480 "Judge, you can't... You have to understand this man's life 485 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,240 "and the people surrounding him." 486 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,920 Nope. An hour. That's it. 487 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:10,760 It was like watching a movie unfold 488 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,480 but you're part of the movie. 489 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,520 A strange day was just about to get even stranger. 490 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:23,280 After a while, he shows up, and he gets out very slowly... 491 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,160 in his pyjamas! 492 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,160 All the focus shifts to outside court, 493 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,080 not to the little boy waiting in the wings 494 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,640 to testify and accuse Michael Jackson of molestation. 495 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,560 Innocent! Innocent! 496 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,880 Imagine what he was going through. 497 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,080 A couple of ways to look at this - 498 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,400 first of all, he really was hurt and needed to get to the hospital. 499 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,000 The other is that maybe it's just a ploy to drum up 500 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,000 some kind of sympathy from the jury. 501 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,920 A cynic would say, brilliant orchestration 502 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,720 to destabilise the accuser. 503 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,880 I mean, 504 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,080 this guy knows how to direct the attention to him 505 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,040 and away from what's happening inside court. 506 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,520 And he did it over and over and over again. 507 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,800 What does this kid have to say? 508 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,440 Well, I'll tell you, he comes across 509 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,480 as a very believable, articulate and sympathetic witness. 510 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,160 This boy has been waiting in the wings for this moment, 511 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,400 and his moment has come. 512 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,880 It's kind of strange. 513 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,320 You know, here we sit, you know, 20 years later, 514 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,240 and I'm still remembering how I felt. 515 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,760 He absolutely looked believable to me. 516 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,920 To me, he appeared to be a child 517 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:48,080 that was going through this really... 518 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,680 terrible struggle 519 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:55,280 to admit that, 520 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,520 as a boy, 521 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,000 he had been molested by a man. 522 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,880 Now you have to tell your story in front of the world, 523 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,520 talk about all these things that you did. 524 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,800 You know, that's really hard to do. 525 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,320 It's the worst thing that a boy would ever have to say out loud. 526 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,880 It's why most men go to their deaths with these secrets. 527 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,840 And now, the race is on. 528 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,800 Can Jackson's defence sufficiently discredit a child witness 529 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,040 over the next few days, without upsetting him? 530 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,040 We went to trial with the molestations that took place 531 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,840 in the three-week period after the Bashir documentary. 532 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,440 We believed that he was molesting Gavin prior to that, as well. 533 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,400 But I think that the bulk of the molestation 534 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,120 and all of the charged counts of molestation 535 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,080 occurred during the three-week period. 536 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,200 Why would he do it with that focus of attention? 537 00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:00,320 The answer is, he can't help himself. 538 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,680 He was a paedophile. 539 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:05,320 Michael Jackson's lawyers are taking aim at his accuser. 540 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,440 Jackson's lawyers' clear intention is to paint this boy 541 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,520 as someone whose word the jury simply cannot afford to trust. 542 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,240 We asked the prosecution when it was 543 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,520 that Michael Jackson molested Gavin Arvizo. 544 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,480 One incident was February 21st, they said. 545 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,320 The family was at the ranch. 546 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,960 Gavin was in bed with Michael, 547 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,000 and Star, the brother, came up the stairway, 548 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:34,200 and Star saw Michael masturbating the boy in bed. 549 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:36,560 I said, "Really? 550 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,360 "I have here an article from the Palm Beach Newspaper, 551 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,880 "February 22nd, 552 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,920 "that, the day before, Michael Jackson was seen shopping 553 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,240 "in Palm Beach, Florida. 554 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,520 "Now, how was it that he was at Neverland Ranch on the 21st?" 555 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,840 Bingo. I got 'em. 556 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,560 Michael was telling the truth. These accusers were not. 557 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,160 It's a tough thing for kids to come forward 558 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,480 and publicly talk about having been a victim of sex crime. 559 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,760 Very often, the victims of sexual abuse can't say with certainty 560 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,480 the details of what had happened on this occasion or that occasion 561 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,320 or the next occasion. 562 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,720 It's just the nature of the phenomena. 563 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,280 This isn't a whodunnit 564 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,440 where there's clearly a crime and one or more victims. 565 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,000 This is a "did it really happen?" 566 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,440 Everything about this case is, um... 567 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,040 ..confounding. 568 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,840 There's the innocent explanation, and the sinister explanation. 569 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,040 Is Gavin the accuser credible? 570 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,840 Is Michael Jackson credible? 571 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,480 You decide. 572 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,400 The defence in the Michael Jackson trial suffered a big setback today. 573 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,360 The judge said he will allow the prosecution to present evidence 574 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,480 that Jackson has been accused of molesting children before. 575 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,360 What we were able to bring in with regards to past bad acts 576 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,160 was that, a number of years earlier, 577 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,440 Jordan Chandler walked away with millions of dollars. 578 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,920 The jury looks at that 579 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,000 and they think, come on, how's this going to happen twice? 580 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,440 It's a huge blow to Jackson, and it's great news for prosecutors. 581 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,960 They essentially get a second chance to make a first impression. 582 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,520 And the whole case has changed, it's a new dynamic. 583 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,600 What happened ten years ago is irrelevant. 584 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:41,080 You have to prove the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt 585 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,800 based on what they did now, not what they did before. 586 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:51,280 Oh, you can besmirch the defendant, you can make the defendant look bad. 587 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,400 That's not evidence. That's character assassination. 588 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,240 When I left Neverland and walked out of that job, 589 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,040 me and a lot of the employees, we sued Mr Jackson 590 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,800 for the treatment that we got. 591 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,720 The things that we saw - 592 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,720 Michael with kids and stuff... 593 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,240 - there were a lot of different accounts, 594 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,600 and there was molestation in there. 595 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,520 But the judge ruled that we could not bring up molestation. 596 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,720 We lost our lawsuit. 597 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,360 So, when I got called for his trial, 598 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,720 I didn't want nothing to do with Michael. 599 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,200 I didn't want to, I didn't even want to look at him. 600 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:35,680 Former Jackson maid Adrian McManus is now on the stand. 601 00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:38,360 She is talking about the parade of young boys 602 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,160 who came through Neverland. 603 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,400 When I walked in there, 604 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,880 he looked at me, like, 605 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,880 "Oh, Adrian, where have you been? I've missed you." 606 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,400 That angered me because I could see the games through him, you know. 607 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,480 I saw what he did to me. I saw that he only cared about himself. 608 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,560 I said what I had to say about what I saw, 609 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,400 with Mr Jackson and Jordan Chandler, and what I had seen. 610 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,880 And Michael just turned his face. 611 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,000 He would not look at me again. 612 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,400 And I thought, good! I am free from you now. 613 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,720 You don't control me. 614 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,360 I truly felt that Michael Jackson was a child molester. 615 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,360 I felt that then, and I haven't changed my mind now. 616 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,360 I still feel that way. 617 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,880 But I had to give Michael Jackson the benefit of the doubt. 618 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,240 You know, he really didn't do this, or whatever. 619 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,960 That's what the jury was supposed to do. 620 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,280 What should have been a damaging account 621 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,480 instead fizzled, after Tom Mesereau dismantled her on cross-examination, 622 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,120 getting her to admit she tried to sue Jackson, and lost, 623 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,480 and lied in an earlier deposition. 624 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,760 They destroyed us. 625 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,400 So... And that's, like I said, I get angry that, 626 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,880 you know, a lot of people, especially the jurors, 627 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,080 right away, they were like, um, oh, yeah, these people, um, 628 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,680 they just want money. They just want money. 629 00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:17,880 It was really, it was a tough situation dealing with that. 630 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,720 The problem that we had was that a number of the people 631 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:29,200 who worked for him brought a lawsuit against him, and lost, 632 00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:34,800 and ended up with a judgement against them for expenses. 633 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,720 A judgement that they never paid. 634 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,960 And it seriously affected their credibility 635 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,240 and their ability to be able to talk about what had happened. 636 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,160 It really hurt us. 637 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,960 {\an8}There was another witness that, really, to this day, sticks with me, 638 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,320 {\an8}was Jordan Chandler's mum. 639 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,640 The latest twist in his trial, 640 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,520 a claim that Michael Jackson begged a young boy's mother 641 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,600 to allow the youngster to sleep with him. 642 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,960 That allegation was made by June Chandler 643 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,800 who says she was showered with jewellery by the singer 644 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:20,440 as he swept her family off on trips to Monaco, Florida and Las Vegas. 645 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:25,720 I remember her taking a stand just ten years after Jordan's situation. 646 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,480 And she said she was a horrible mother, 647 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:37,720 and her exact words was, "I sold my son to Michael Jackson." 648 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,440 She said that she hadn't heard from her son, and she understood why. 649 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,880 I just thought, oh, my gosh. 650 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,080 It moved me. 651 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,920 I can't understand how it would not have moved any jury. 652 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,920 I thought it was very damaging testimony, 653 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,360 particularly the moment where she says that Michael Jackson, 654 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,600 crying and shaking and trembling, begged her to allow her son 655 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,440 to sleep with him, and basically said, "We're family." 656 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,280 Well, they're not family. 657 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,480 Why should a mother be asked to trust a middle-aged man 658 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,000 to be entitled to sleep with her son? 659 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,720 I thought, oh, my gosh, what kind of grown man would cry 660 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,760 because this mother decides she don't want to bring her little boy 661 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,640 to have a sleepover with you? 662 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,240 And I thought, he's going to lose this thing. 663 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:40,000 What possessed a mother to allow her son to share a stranger's bed 664 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,040 was never made clear. 665 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,680 But, asked by the prosecution, as she concluded her testimony, 666 00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:49,360 whether she regretted placing her trust in Michael Jackson, 667 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,320 June Chandler replied, "Very much so." 668 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,880 The message was kind of clear to me. 669 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,560 The parents didn't protect their sons 670 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,080 because they were groomed as much as the kids were 671 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,560 into thinking that everything was going to be OK. 672 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:13,560 They were as awestruck with Michael Jackson as the kids themselves. 673 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,080 This was what Michael Jackson would do. 674 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,640 He was able to win over the loyalty of the mothers of these children 675 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,520 by giving them lavish gifts and treating them to a lavish lifestyle. 676 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,560 We had Jordan Chandler's mother in there. 677 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,960 We had the proof that there was a settlement. 678 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,880 We had the proof that he had spent 679 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,080 an endless amount of time in bed with him. 680 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,120 I've won cases with no more evidence than that. 681 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:49,000 There's witness after witness that say Jackson has a pattern 682 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,480 and practice of molesting children. 683 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,400 And I'll tell you, the jury's going to look to that, 684 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,440 and they're going to have a difficult time 685 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,120 saying that Jackson is not a paedophile in this case. 686 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,720 Subtitles by Red Bee Media 57279

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