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This programme contains strong
and discriminatory language
and themes of child abuse

Michael said, "Gavin,
when you get out of the hospital,

"you come to Neverland Ranch
and I will heal you."

And then
the Martin Bashir documentary

caused a worldwide commotion.

And then he finally said,
"OK, if you love me,

"you can sleep on the bed."

I was like "Oh, man!"
So, I finally slept on the bed.

You got to give the devil his due.

Martin Bashir did
an incredible job.

Did that lead to the trial?
You bet.

People just can't stop talking about
the interview

with Michael Jackson,

a British documentary which aired
in the US last night.

The man is 44 years old.

What in the hell is he doing
sleeping in the bed

with kids who are not his,
who are not related?

The Martin Bashir documentary drops,

and it's like the paedophile heard
round the world.

For Michael Jackson,
this was a nuclear bomb.

Why can't you share your bed?

The most loving thing to do is
to share your bed with someone.

- You really think that?
- Yeah.

The media painted Michael to be
a child molester,

and they replayed that Bashir clip
probably one billion times.

Why are you holding the hand of
a 13-year-old kid?

You know if it was any one of us

and we were engaging in that kind
of behaviour,

the cops would be all over us.

You would be cringing.

You would be cringing if your client
got on national TV

and said words to the effect
that he hosts

sleep-over parties for small boys.

The media certainly felt that
Michael was fair game

to go after anything
and everything. He hated it.

It's a frenzy.

My phone doesn't stop ringing
with press people.

They want to talk.

You know, everybody wants to get
a story going.

I even get a phone call from
a tabloid offering me

an incredible amount of money
just to talk dirty.

It's a PR meltdown.

There is tremendous pressure
to get it all under control.

Michael, great entertainer,
big celebrity status.

But he has a habit of tripping.

So, when this Bashir interview
was released in the United States,

I get a call from my friend Frank,
who's Michael Jackson's PR manager.

He's like, "Come out to LA

"and come out work on this
damage control

"which is occurring right now."

Frank was very close to Michael,
and I asked him,

you know,
"Before I leave and I take this job,

"has Michael ever harmed a child?"

And he says, "Vin, you know me.
I am the closest person to him."

And he said, "Never would happen."

So, I trusted Frank,

and I made a decision
to take the job.

The best thing that we could do
to defend Michael Jackson

was to film our own documentary
to get a really good rebuttal

to who Michael was
and that he's a good person.

Michael Jackson take two is going
to air on Fox February 20th.

So then what do you think about
Michael's version of this show

- that is going to come out,
supposedly?
- Positive spin.

I mean, it'll help him,
it'll help him,

but he said what he said.

For about a week to a week and half,

I was trying to line up all
the press around the documentary.

The participation of the boy
in the documentary,

Gavin Arvizo, is a key element in
how it's all going to work.

So the idea is we're going to
capture an interview

with the Arvizo family, to show that
there hadn't been improper contact

or conduct between
Michael Jackson and Gavin.

It was essential to get
this interview done

before the tabloids get
a hold of this family.

My first task dealing
with the Arvizo family

was to go pick up the mother,
Janet Arvizo,

and bring her to
Michael's videographer.

She was very upset.

She was complaining
about the family,

and all their dreams are shattered
now because of this.

We started pretty late
in the evening,

and I talk the family through what
we're going to be talking about,

basically just giving them
a rundown that this is

a total fluff interview.
But we want you to be honest.

Very quiet.

And everybody settles.

The family is supposedly totally
on board,

but the mom won't start
the interview

because I need signed model releases
before we can do the interview.

But she didn't want to sign
the model releases.

Why don't you sign
a model release? Money.

All right? So, is she worried
that she's not going to get

a piece of this
if we sell this footage?

And then suddenly she's on
the phone with lawyers.

At some point, someone tells Janet
that it's OK for us to sign

the model releases
and to film the interview.

Wait, wait. You know how
these Bashir...

Hey, you know how Bashir zoomed in
on him holding hands?

Do that, the same thing.

- Because, you know...
- Because that's
what a mother does with a son.

Or a father does with a son.

You know, and they try to make it
out to be something wrong

and dirty. So you can have that.

When I first met Michael,

all I thought was he was
a loving, kind, humble man.

And all he wanted to do was good.

As I'm doing the interview,

I really do feel like
Gavin is very sincere.

He treats me like he's my father.

He gives Gavin advice, and...

Michael was exactly an answered
prayer to my children and me.

Michael is there for us.
There for all three of them.

Janet's just over the top.

I dislike her immediately.

Every door closed on us,
and Michael said,

"All my doors are open.

"My home is your home,
and your children,

"I am like their father."

And his interactions with my
children were all innocent,

as a father interacts
with his children.

Where she really loses
my credibility

is just how she suddenly adopted
this idea

that Michael is their real father.

Either this mom
is completely in love

with Michael Jackson,

or she's driven by the world of
Michael Jackson possibilities.

It disturbed me greatly
when I saw them

and the innuendos he was making.

They took a beautiful
relationships...

Relationship that he has with Gavin
and spun it out of control.

We completed the interview,

but then the director of photography
would not give me the footage.

This interview was obviously
very important,

and he wanted Michael to pay him.

So, unfortunately,
it never went into the Fox special.

It wasn't a good situation

with tabloids hovering around
everybody at the time.

I had a strong feeling
that I didn't trust Janet.

So, I am absolutely worried
that this is the type of person

who might take money to say,

"Michael Jackson molested my kid."

Because there's
a lot of money in that.

I have very few friends,

and the friends that are family
to me

are because they have exhibited
honesty, trustworthiness, love.

This video, I have never seen it.

I don't know how you guys
got all of this.

And that is why we are very thankful

and appreciate that Michael
calls us family

because he exhibits all that.

And he gives these boys much
direction, because 12 and 13,

they need a whole bunch of it.

So, what you're seeing
in Janet here,

she just truly wants this all
to be true,

because this is just a godsend
that there would be

a male influence in her children's
life who was kind and caring.

She says things very dramatically,

but Janet really feels
what she's saying.

I know her. That's what she feels.

You know, she had been going through
a lot of stuff.

She was getting a divorce.

Gavin's father had been abusive
to her and the kids.

So, at this point,

the idea that somebody this
important would value her children

and parent them,
that was meaningful to her.

Like, extraordinarily meaningful
to her at the time.

She craved it.

After the Martin Bashir
documentary aired,

I became concerned. I start calling,
their numbers are disconnected.

I didn't know where she was.

Clearly, they were at the centre of
a hurricane.

Anybody that had any kind of show
would have wanted

to talk to this family.

Michael Jackson's team would have
wanted to keep them contained.

OK, everybody,
that two hour documentary

on Living with Michael Jackson is
still making news.

Michael Jackson's image has taken
a brutal beating

over the past few months,
as you know.

We love Michael,
we love Michael.

CHEERING

Among the madness of Bashir,

I get a phone call. "Hey, we're
going to go to Gary, Indiana

"and visit Michael's
childhood home."

Any kind of distraction.

Give them some new Michael Jackson
stuff that was positive.

I would like to officially, on
behalf of the men and the women

and the young people of the city
of Gary,

welcome back home
Mr Michael Jackson.

I am the biggest fan.

Well, probably not the biggest,
because there's a lot of them here.

But I just love Michael Jackson.

Just his persona,
he loves children.

In a good way he loves children.

He's a role model and I love him.

I originally thought we were going

because he wanted
to visit his hometown,

but as it turns out,

it was to capture footage
of Michael's humble beginnings,

because that was what
the narrative was going to be.

It was like going to be
the sickly sweet,

you know, you know...
Here comes the king.

You know, like, wah, wah.

The management of Michael's image,
that's the number one thing.

When you saw Michael's
childhood home,

it was pretty rough.

You know, we are talking a
two...

A small two-room home where ten
or 11 people lived.

Michael grew up in abject poverty,

certainly in an age
of discrimination,

opportunities for black men
and black families especially

were very limited. But the one thing
that really affected him

was his relationship
with his father.

I think the broken relationship

between father and son
was monumental.

There were really like two
Michael Jacksons.

One needed love and validation,

the other needed attention
and celebrity.

I proudly present
to you Mr Michael Jackson.

CHEERING

Everything is already geared up like
a machine.

All this love.

It's all orchestrated
to get support from the fans,

you know, because they would defend
him no matter what.

The Gary Community School
Corporation welcomes home

the King of Pop, Michael Jackson.

The intrigue surrounding Michael
Jackson continues tonight.

Would you let your son
or daughter stay over at Neverland?

No, and I can't understand why these
other boys' parents

allowed them to either.

I believe that Child Welfare
Services should interview

every child that has been
at Neverland

with Mr Jackson
in his bedroom.

The tabloids are still foaming at
the mouth.

And there was a sense that you want
to keep Janet Arvizo,

who seems like a bit of a live
wire, as far away from tabloids

and people with cheques as possible.

The Arvizo family is surrounded
by handlers.

They're getting carted around by
people inside the Jackson team,

and there is a controlled element
of making sure they don't talk

to people that they shouldn't be
talking to.

I would bring Janet and the kids
back and forth

between the Neverland Ranch and LA.

I was told to spend my time with
assisting Janet Arvizo

on whatever needed to get done.

I drove her all over the place.

The Arvizos are OK
with it at first,

but slowly they start to, you know,

become resentful
of being controlled.

"No, no, no, you don't go get your
groceries, we'll do it with you."

And then I was told that Vinnie was
going to help them move.

And I go, "Why?
Do they want to move?"

"Well, we need a better location."

"We? Who's we?"

You know, so this is...
This is curious language.

The Arvizo family were getting
a lot of pressure from the press,

and there was a need for
a place where they can stay,

where they can feel safe.

There was also a lot of talk about
taking the family on a vacation.

Vinnie was running around getting
passport photos,

and I thought that was probably
a really smart idea as well.

And to make sure that this family
is off in Mars,

as far away from the press
and the tabloids as possible.

I'm being asked,
"Wouldn't you like to go to Brazil?"

I'm like, "No."

Why is the family being coaxed
to go to Brazil?

There is this plan that's going on.

But who's the guy behind the curtain
in The Wizard of Oz?

Nothing's going to get done
without Michael's approval.

He knows what's going on.

PHONE RINGS

One day, I get a frantic phone call
from Janet,

who is being kept somewhere
and whispering.

She was panicky.

She wants me to come to where she is
and get her and the kids

and bring them back to my house.

She sounded desperate,

and I felt her panic
for her own children.

She felt they were keeping
her family at Neverland,

and that they were going
to send them to Brazil

and make the family disappear.

And it's not like you can call
the police and say,

"You know, I think there's a family
being held against their will

"by Michael Jackson."

I don't know if that's a 911 call
that's going to be put through.

I had extended to her, you know,
call me in 24 hours,

and then I would have better
resources in place.

And she never called.

When I became involved
with Janet and her family,

they were allowed
to go anywhere they wanted,

and I would take them wherever
they wanted.

One day, she said, "Please bring
my children down

"to their grandparents' house.
My mother is sick."

I didn't think anything of it.

After that day,
we hadn't heard from them.

They were done with us

and we were finished working
with them and that was it.

They could leave any time,
any... Any day.

When I finally heard from Janet,
she told me about the danger

that she felt had been visited upon
her family.

They had been kept at Neverland
for three weeks or so.

And when Janet got her kids home,

they were not behaving normally.

Janet spoke to a lawyer.

He heard enough
and saw these boys and thought,

I don't like the way
this is sounding at all.

I told Michael, "Don't work with
kids. Work with their parents.

"It's their parents that are
supposed to be leading them.

"You are not the child's messiah."

In 2003, I was a senior prosecutor
in the district attorney's office.

I was the supervisor of
the vulnerable victims unit.

One morning, I got called in by the
district attorney

and he handed me a two-page report.

And I'm looking at it,
and it seems to be kind of

the ordinary preamble that you see
in these investigations.

And I don't understand why I'm
sitting there looking at this thing.

It's like dozens of other cases
I've looked at.

And then I look at the top
that has the name.

I never went to the name,

and the name was
Michael Joe Jackson.

The Sheriff's office in
Santa Barbara County had started

an investigation into allegations
made by Gavin.

You just sit right there, buddy.

Gavin, can you tell us what your
conversations...

What you guys talked about?

Gavin talking about alcohol use
was a grooming situation.

In that interview, he exhibited
to me the typical, if you will,

demeanour of somebody
that's been abused.

You know, the shying away
from the questions,

not wanting to talk about anything.

Keeping himself closed up
during the interview.

He wanted to show you how
to masturbate?

OK.

OK.

And did he do it for you?

Go ahead, Gavin, it's fine.

Did he put it on the outside?

Inside. And what did he do next?

OK.

Did he stop?

Having to publicly talk about sexual
abuse is not an easy thing.

But he was courageous.

I had complete faith in everything
Gavin was saying

and there was never a question
in my mind as to the honesty

or accuracy of his statements,
never.

But I knew we were going after
an international superstar,

and that changes the equation.

That was the part that was
the unknown for all of us.

There are surprising developments
at the home of Michael Jackson.

Authorities are serving a secret
search warrant

at his ranch near Santa Barbara,
California.

Although there is no official word
as to the nature of the warrant,

a number of news outlets are
reporting that the search is tied

to allegations from a 12-year-old
boy that he was molested by Jackson.

I was watching CNN,

and I saw all of these police
entering the gates of Neverland.

Investigators have swarmed
Jackson's Neverland ranch.

Target Neverland is under way.

I picked up the phone
and I called Michael.

He was in Las Vegas, and I said,
"Mr Jackson, are you OK?"

And he says, "Yeah, why?"

I said, "They're raiding Neverland."
He says, "What?!"

I said, "Turn on CNN.
You'll see it there.

"It's live.
They're raiding Neverland."

Michael was really shocked,

and I had never seen anything
like it.

I mean, the gate of Neverland
is a good mile from the house,

and here is this stream of cars

and to me it's just abuse.
It's harassment.

The media has set up camp out here.

We're told as many as 60
investigators are inside

at this point searching the ranch.

It was a very large operation.

I was a newly
promoted detective,

I was a big Michael Jackson fan
as a teenager.

When Michael Jackson would come out
to perform,

you can imagine teenage girls
screaming at the top of their lungs.

That's what we were doing.

When I was told about the
allegations against Michael Jackson,

I was kind of surprised.

I was assigned to search
the main residence.

How are you doing?

Sheriff's department.
We have a search warrant.

To me, Michael Jackson was just
another celebrity.

When you are dealing
with celebrities,

you have accusations that are made,

and you have to take those
accusations with a grain of salt.

You have to do your investigation.

- Whose office is this?
- That's his office.

This is Michael's? OK.

Does he have anything else?

Michael Jackson's mansion was like
no other house I've ever seen.

There was just so much
stuff everywhere.

This is his area right in here.

So, this is the way we have to go
right now.

Here's the code to get in.
And that is...

My assignment was going to be going
into Michael Jackson's bedroom.

Somebody said now he's moved
upstairs rather than down here.

So, we'll also have to check.

Let's just secure everything
right now.

Gavin had disclosed that there
would be a briefcase

with pornographic magazines that
were used by Michael

to provoke an arousal. Those items
we refer to as grooming materials.

My job was to do the library.

First thing that caught my attention
was it was all cluttered with boxes

of books on the floor.

The books I remember seizing
were books

of children posing in
their underwear.

In and of themselves are not
child pornography.

They weren't posing together in
sexual acts or anything like that.

But based on the investigations
I'd done in the past,

to me, those were grooming books.
You know, we'd found books like that

in other situations.

I thought they said search behind
the jukebox.

We also found a pair of underwear
briefs stuffed in a box.

They were either a very small adult
or children's briefs.

We asked the housekeeper,
"Where's the bedroom?"

That's when we were told no-one was
permitted into his bedroom,

and nobody had a key
for his bedroom.

We were able to make entry.

And when we walked in,
it was a mess.

Papers, clothes
covering the whole floor.

I found some pepperoni sausages
that were just thrown in there.

I remember thinking,
"Oh, my gosh, this is filthy."

Drawers weren't closed right.

You know, I'm sure everyone
has a junk drawer.

There were a lot
of junk drawers, if you would,

just stuff thrown all over.

In the area where the grand piano
was, that's where I located

a briefcase. Opened it up,
and there were some magazines

with the pornographic materials
in them.

So that was a significant item,

because it supported
what Gavin said.

You know in that moment, your whole
point of the investigation

is to seek the truth.

When you talk about an innocent
child who has been

taken advantage of, that is going
to stir anger in anyone,

and...

..I think that Gavin was very
courageous to be able

to come forward
and say what happened.

First piece, item, seems like
a piece of luggage.

Black leather type of material.

There were several items taken away
as evidence.

- Bag. Sheriff's department.
- OK. This is a jewellery box.

The calibre of this investigation
really hit me,

of, oh, my, this is Michael Jackson.

There's definitely the feeling,
even now,

of the intensity
of the investigation.

So, it's just all surfacing
that emotion again.

I wasn't expecting any emotion,
to be honest with you.

Throughout the night,
the search continued.

Patrol cars gliding past banks
of reporters,

camera lights illuminating

the perimeter of
the 3,000-acre estate.

When we heard about the raid
on Neverland,

I'm in my childhood bedroom watching
my black and white TV.

Let's just bring people up-to-date
real quick.

The allegations were reportedly made
by a 12-year-old cancer victim,

who said that Jackson gave him booze
and pills at Neverland Ranch.

I just, I couldn't believe
it was Gavin.

I just was devastated.

Tonight, Jackson is wanted
by police.

California authorities announced
an arrest warrant today

accusing Jackson, aged 45,

of multiple felony counts
of child molestation.

CBS news has learned that
Michael Jackson will turn himself in

to authorities in Santa
Barbara today.

We briefly interrupt
your programming.

Pop star Michael Jackson
has surrendered to authorities

in Santa Barbara, California, after
landing just a few moments ago

at the Santa Barabara airport.

He is now en route
to the Santa Barbara jail

where he is about to be booked
and processed.

The media circus,
it is in full swing.

Reporters, cameras and helicopters
have been chasing

the Jackson story around
Southern California.

Michael Jackson under arrest.

It is the shot seen round
the world.

Fingerprinted and photographed,

Michael Jackson like you've never
seen him before.

His lawyer says Jackson is innocent
and outraged.

I was shocked.
Michael called me from the jail.

He says, "Can you believe this?
I've done nothing wrong,

"and they have me all over
the news."

Well, I said, "You know, you just be
you and you do what you need to do.

"Don't be afraid
to defend yourself."

He's come back specifically
to confront these charges head on.

But I'm here to tell you today,

and Michael has given me the
authority to say on his behalf,

these charges are categorically
untrue. Thank you very much.

When I asked him point blank, "What
is this about? Who are these people?

"Did you do this?"

And I saw just how strong,

and how the conviction

of his speaking to me,

I knew he was innocent. I knew it.

After he was processed,
he snuck out the back door.

Through it all, the fading King of
Pop still manages to wave

and flash the victory sign.

He went right from the jail
to the airport.

The same plane he flew in on,
he flew out on.

And now Fox has confirmed he is now
back in Las Vegas.

At this point in time,

the Arvizo family were in an
apartment in West LA.

They're very isolated over there,

the children are not going
to school,

and so I began visiting.

Gavin was a different person.

He was very different,
he was subdued,

and his way of letting me know

that what he was saying was true,

in his 14-year-old way,
was to say,

"He got me drunk.
I was drunk."

It seemed like how a 14-year-old
would tell you this happened,

because I wasn't in my right mind

and I don't want you
to think any less of me.

It was just devastating.

I did not believe in any way
that Michael was even capable

of doing something like this.

I loved this family.

And by extension, loved him.

There had been allegations against
him in his past

with a boy, Jordan Chandler,
but they went away.

This isn't the first time Jackson
has been accused

of child molestation.

Ten years ago, Jackson had been
accused of molesting another child

but the case was settled
out of court.

This time, because the Bashir
documentary was fresh

in everybody's mind,

and what stood out was that boy.

Michael was being so affectionate
with him.

You had to know that they were
going to go all the way

with this one, that he's going
to have to face the music in court.

All of this is going on,
and I'm still like,

"OK, we got to give Michael
the benefit of the doubt."

We just want to let Michael Jackson
know that he has got friends here

in Santa Barbara.

I will never believe it.
It's just impossible.

MJ would never hurt a child.

MJ is the kindest person
in the world.

Michael Jackson, after his booking,

made an allegation to the press that
he had been physically harmed

by somebody in
the sheriff's department.

They manhandled me very roughly.

My shoulder
is dislocated, literally.

It was a pure fabrication.
Completely made up.

It's hurting me very badly.
I'm in pain all the time.

This is, see this arm,
this as far as I could reach it.

Same with this side over here.

Because of what happened
at the police station?

Yeah, at the police station.

There was an investigation
that was done,

and there was no evidence that there
had been

any kind of harm that was done.

If you saw what they did
to my arms...

It was very bad what they did.

I just remember thinking how absurd
it was,

and I thought,
who in the world would believe it?

But apparently there are. I mean,
if you are a believer

of Michael Jackson,
you'll believe what he says,

and doesn't matter how preposterous
it is.

Before I would hurt a child,
I would slit my wrists.

I would never hurt a child.
This is totally false.

I was outraged.

I could never do something
like that.

Michael's biggest attribute,

he could make you feel, like,
so sorry for him.

What time is it?

Because I am hurting.
I don't feel good.

He had this aura about him,

this, where I know when
I've been in his presence,

I've felt like, oh, boy. You know,
people should leave Michael alone.

You got a bunch of racists,
I'm sorry, racist rednecks out there

who don't care about people.

We are a family.

My mother is very angry.
We are all angry,

and we are going to put our soldiers
and generals together

and prepare for war.
That's what this is.

When Jermaine came out
and called it a modern-day lynching,

in the moment, I thought,
that's a stretch.

It was just to get attention.

It was just to try and galvanise,
particularly, black America,

because when you mention lynching,

it's going to hit here,

and that's exactly what he wanted
you to feel.

The latest bombshell in the Michael
Jackson case centres around

Jackon's closest business associates

and whether of not they were behind
a plot to abduct

and silence the accuser
and his family.

ABC news has learned that
prosecutors are focused on two men,

Vinny Amen and Frank Tyson, both
long-time Jackson associates.

According to sources familiar
with the case,

Amen and Tyson are being accused of
using pressure tactics

to try and silence
the alleged victim's family.

Kidnapping and hostage,

it is horrible, devastating.

It was wrong.

They went too far with that word.

And when it came out,
the media said,

well, they can just file an arrest
warrant right on the fly

in California. I mean, I was scared.
I was 22 years old.

We included a conspiracy
to commit kidnapping,

because in a conspiracy you can
put in a lot of information

that paints a very compelling story.

The conspiracy to commit kidnapping
was the efforts that Jackson

and his crew were making
to remove the family

from the state of California
and from the United States,

to take them down to Brazil where
they could not be discovered

by police, by law enforcement
or by the press.

When someone asks me how I feel,
it couldn't get worse.

It just kept getting
worse, worse, worse, worse, worse.

Steve Robel from the Santa Barbara's
Sheriff's department,

he wanted to ask us questions.
He left voicemails for us.

They were a little threatening.

They were basically like, jump on
board or we may file

additional charges.

We were worried that maybe
we would get searched.

Frank and I decided that we were
going to bring to an attorney

any business items we had that were
associated with Michael Jackson.

So, Frank handed me a bag.

Ends up, I take it back to my house

because there was something
suspicious that I didn't like,

and when I opened up the bag,
I found this magazine.

It was a naturalist magazine with a
video ordering section

that had naked kids in it,

and there were circles around
the videos, to be ordered.

That was just a devastating blow
for me.

That was just a psychological hit
that I never...

Now I see how this case is going,
and all of a sudden, I see that,

and I came to a conclusion that
everything has been lied to me.

Now this is the realm
of sexual abuse of children.

Now it became very real to me,

and it became very real that Frank
knew about what's going on

and he's not coming forward.

I know Frank was manipulated,

but being associated
with Michael Jackson

who was victimising children,

it's like a wound that opens up,

and then when you open that wound
it affects you psychologically.

So, I guess I have done
a lot of work on it

to heal that wound,

but I think it will
always affect me.

I've had years of healing,

but, you know, it still hurts.

If Michael was actually committing
sex abuse against children,

he needs to be brought to justice.

This is just the start
of what's likely to be

a very public and dirty war.

We're certainly poised for
the trial of the century.

He is fighting these
molestation charges.

Michael innocent,
Michael's innocent.

I think Michael Jackson is fighting
for his life right now.

Five counts of child molestation,

four counts of supplying a minor
with alcohol,

one count of conspiracy
for false imprisonment.

If he is guilty on all those
charges, then he will face

a maximum of 18 years
and eight months in prison.