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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:27,790 --> 00:00:31,530 On Capitol Hill today, a bipartisan call for more government transparency on 2 00:00:31,530 --> 00:00:35,970 UFOs, or as the military calls them, unidentified aerial phenomena, UAPs. 3 00:00:37,250 --> 00:00:42,350 The objects have been detected essentially where all operations, Navy 4 00:00:42,350 --> 00:00:46,490 are being conducted across the world. The technology that we faced was far 5 00:00:46,490 --> 00:00:49,150 superior than anything that we have currently or that we're going to have in 6 00:00:49,150 --> 00:00:50,150 next 10 to 20 years. 7 00:00:52,350 --> 00:00:57,050 Unidentified aerial phenomena are a potential national security threat. 8 00:00:57,530 --> 00:00:59,110 and they need to be treated that way. 9 00:00:59,610 --> 00:01:04,150 The United States government has gathered a great deal of information 10 00:01:04,150 --> 00:01:08,890 over many decades, but has refused to share it with the American people. That 11 00:01:08,890 --> 00:01:11,670 wrong, and additionally, it breeds mistrust. 12 00:01:26,090 --> 00:01:29,790 I spent 11 years in the U .S. Navy as a fighter pilot. For 18 years, I flew 13 00:01:29,790 --> 00:01:31,230 fighters for the United States Navy. 14 00:01:31,470 --> 00:01:34,410 I spent 20 years working in the U .S. intelligence community. 15 00:01:34,730 --> 00:01:39,170 I served as the fourth director of national intelligence. I spent 25 years 16 00:01:39,170 --> 00:01:40,470 senior official with the CIA. 17 00:01:40,830 --> 00:01:44,770 I retired from the Navy as a one -star admiral after 32 years of service. I 18 00:01:44,770 --> 00:01:48,910 worked on highly classified UAP programs for the government as a senior 19 00:01:48,910 --> 00:01:52,860 scientist. I've spent 32 years in and out of government in national security. 20 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:58,360 I've worked 28 years as an astrophysicist on highly classified UAP 21 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,820 the United States government and for the defense industry. 22 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,860 I'm a professor in the Department of Pathology at Stanford University School 23 00:02:04,860 --> 00:02:09,660 Medicine. And for the last 10 years or so, I've been working with the 24 00:02:09,660 --> 00:02:12,740 of Defense and people in the CIA on the UAP topic. 25 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,000 I've come to the conclusion that we are not only not alone in the universe. 26 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,380 But we have been discovered by an intelligence from some other part of the 27 00:02:21,380 --> 00:02:23,220 universe. There's evidence we are not alone. 28 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:28,160 Humanity is not the only intelligent species in the universe. We're not alone 29 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,040 the universe. It wouldn't be so arrogant to suggest there are no other forms of 30 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,560 life out there. 31 00:02:33,820 --> 00:02:36,100 Humanity is not the only intelligence in the universe. 32 00:02:36,580 --> 00:02:41,080 UAPs are real, they're here, and they're not human. There are other 33 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:46,040 intelligences that have highly advanced exotic craft interacting. 34 00:02:46,810 --> 00:02:48,870 with the human population. 35 00:02:49,170 --> 00:02:50,170 They are here. 36 00:02:50,310 --> 00:02:52,270 This is real. It's happening. 37 00:02:52,490 --> 00:02:53,490 It's happening now. 38 00:02:53,670 --> 00:02:57,610 Non -human intelligence exists. It's been interacting with humanity and it's 39 00:02:57,610 --> 00:03:01,310 been doing so on this planet for a long time. We are not the only intelligent 40 00:03:01,310 --> 00:03:05,290 life form in the universe. There's something here on the planet with us 41 00:03:05,290 --> 00:03:10,570 intelligent and more intelligent than us. This is the biggest discovery in 42 00:03:10,570 --> 00:03:11,570 history. 43 00:03:29,770 --> 00:03:31,130 My name is Lou Elizondo. 44 00:03:31,350 --> 00:03:33,950 In 2009, my life changed forever. 45 00:03:34,570 --> 00:03:38,990 That's when I was recruited into a highly sensitive government program that 46 00:03:38,990 --> 00:03:44,790 investigated unidentified aerial phenomenon, UAP, also commonly known as 47 00:03:45,730 --> 00:03:50,270 My work for the U .S. government goes back almost 30 years to when I joined 48 00:03:50,270 --> 00:03:51,270 U .S. Army. 49 00:03:51,410 --> 00:03:55,190 From there, I had the good fortune of being recruited into various programs 50 00:03:55,190 --> 00:03:56,530 within military intelligence. 51 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,820 During my career, I served my country around the world managing and directing 52 00:04:00,820 --> 00:04:04,800 missions, including counter -narcotics, counter -espionage, counter -terrorism, 53 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:05,820 and counter -insurgency. 54 00:04:06,260 --> 00:04:10,200 And it was later in my career that I actually began running special access 55 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,700 programs for the U .S. government, and in some cases reported directly to the 56 00:04:13,700 --> 00:04:15,220 White House and the National Security Council. 57 00:04:16,860 --> 00:04:21,579 My name is Jay Stratton, and for over 16 years, on behalf of the U .S. 58 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,720 government, I worked as a senior intelligence official on the 59 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:25,860 aerial phenomenon topic. 60 00:04:27,500 --> 00:04:31,460 I joined the Army at the age of 17 and left for a career in military 61 00:04:31,460 --> 00:04:34,680 intelligence with eight combat deployments, including Iraq and 62 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,420 After the Army, I joined Naval Intelligence, and then I transitioned to 63 00:04:40,420 --> 00:04:43,740 Defense Intelligence Agency, where I was the Chief of Air and Space Warfare 64 00:04:43,740 --> 00:04:45,280 inside of the Defense Warning Office. 65 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:50,220 It was at the DIA that my colleagues and I started getting reports of what are 66 00:04:50,220 --> 00:04:53,800 now called UAP. We went all over the government, the Pentagon, every 67 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,000 intelligence agency, anywhere we could think to try to find the UAP program, 68 00:04:58,180 --> 00:05:01,800 assuming there was one. As far as we could tell, no one in the United States 69 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:07,180 government had a UAP program. So my colleagues and I began a new program, 70 00:05:07,180 --> 00:05:12,000 ultimately became AATIP, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, 71 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,360 AATIP. 72 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,040 The funding for this effort was sponsored by then Senate Majority 73 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,220 Senator Harry Reid. 74 00:05:21,100 --> 00:05:25,500 And together, myself, Jay Stratton, and our team, for nearly a decade, 75 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,340 investigated UAP incidents around the world. 76 00:05:28,660 --> 00:05:35,140 Based on hard evidence and data, we learned that UAPs present serious 77 00:05:35,140 --> 00:05:38,340 security concerns and a potential existential threat. 78 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,660 Simply put, transmedium crafts. 79 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:50,860 Vehicles that have the capability to operate in space, air, and 80 00:05:50,860 --> 00:05:56,140 water, and seemingly defy all that humanity knows about physics, have been 81 00:05:56,140 --> 00:06:00,920 operating with complete impunity around the world since at least the 1940s. 82 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:09,020 At AATIP, we had access to some of the most sensitive videos in the Department 83 00:06:09,020 --> 00:06:11,500 of Defense inventory. If you could be in my shoes... 84 00:06:11,900 --> 00:06:16,860 and see what I've seen in folks like Jay Stratton, there would be zero shadow of 85 00:06:16,860 --> 00:06:21,460 a doubt that these things are real and they are not made by humans. The things 86 00:06:21,460 --> 00:06:25,540 that I've seen, the clearest videos, the best evidence that we have that these 87 00:06:25,540 --> 00:06:27,780 are non -human intelligence remain classified. 88 00:06:28,340 --> 00:06:33,160 The classified data that we had access to when we joined the program was 89 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:38,400 indisputable. There's 80 years of this data that the public isn't even aware 90 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,220 I have seen with my own eyes non -human craft and non -human beings. 91 00:06:45,660 --> 00:06:50,200 For 23 years and 10 months, I was in the United States Air Force as an A -10 92 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:56,780 pilot. And while I was at NORAD, I witnessed an event that I will remember 93 00:06:56,780 --> 00:06:57,780 forever. 94 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:03,340 There was an unknown object we were tracking on radars and the commander. 95 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:09,120 says, I want that target. That means intercept it. Fighters all the way down 96 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,600 eastern seaboard were scrambled. 97 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:17,980 And none of the fighters were successful in intercepting or running it down. We 98 00:07:17,980 --> 00:07:22,480 were unable to maintain air sovereignty over North America. 99 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,380 On November 14, 2004... 100 00:07:30,620 --> 00:07:33,320 We were on board the USS Nimitz, which is a nuclear aircraft carrier. 101 00:07:35,620 --> 00:07:37,600 I was the most senior person in the squadron flying. 102 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,500 I had launched off Nimitz to do an air defense exercise off the coast of San 103 00:07:42,500 --> 00:07:43,500 Diego, California. 104 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,280 And I ended up chasing a UAP known as the Tic Tac UAP. 105 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:54,600 It was about 40 feet long, and just sitting there in space, you can kind of 106 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,000 it start to accelerate, and as it gets in front of us, it's gone. 107 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,700 This thing was doing 32 ,000 miles an hour. So obviously that technology is 108 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:03,720 the United States. 109 00:08:03,940 --> 00:08:10,060 As we were watching this Tic Tac object maneuver in this bizarre way, 110 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:16,480 it was obvious that it wasn't conventional. This was defying those 111 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:22,300 physics, laws of gravity that as pilots we live and die by. We literally had 112 00:08:22,300 --> 00:08:25,260 these things docking Navy vessels on deployment. 113 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,180 The frequency in which UAP were being reported to us was increasing. 114 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,500 They were ubiquitous. We were seeing them nearly daily out there. 115 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:42,120 And then we actually almost had a midair with one of these objects. 116 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,480 This now became a safety issue. 117 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,720 Two aircraft from my squadron were flying out in close proximity to each 118 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,420 in section formation, so about 150 feet apart or so. One of these objects went 119 00:08:53,420 --> 00:08:54,780 right in between those two aircraft. 120 00:08:55,370 --> 00:08:59,390 right past the lead aircraft, and the lead aircraft was able to visually see 121 00:08:59,390 --> 00:09:03,650 object, and he simply described it as a dark gray or a black cube inside of a 122 00:09:03,650 --> 00:09:04,650 clear sphere. 123 00:09:06,770 --> 00:09:13,650 To be clear, non -human intelligence has been actively conducting ISR, 124 00:09:13,690 --> 00:09:18,510 intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance, of some of our most 125 00:09:18,510 --> 00:09:21,650 .S. military facilities and nuclear sites. 126 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:27,580 They have both deactivated and activated nuclear weapons with both the United 127 00:09:27,580 --> 00:09:32,980 States and Russia. The nuclear weapons that were activated in Russia were 128 00:09:32,980 --> 00:09:38,040 pointed at us. And from that perspective, the stakes really could not 129 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,040 higher. 130 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,920 This is an emerging and disruptive threat for the United States and truly a 131 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:43,920 national security concern. 132 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,620 And by the way, this isn't just happening here in the United States. 133 00:09:47,620 --> 00:09:50,580 happening all over the world and it's occurring with greater frequency. 134 00:09:54,440 --> 00:10:00,240 When I met Lou Elizondo in the Pentagon, he made me aware not only that this 135 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:05,880 phenomenon was real, but it was an ongoing, persistent phenomenon. 136 00:10:06,500 --> 00:10:09,540 The Secretary of Defense didn't know, the Congress didn't know, senior 137 00:10:09,540 --> 00:10:15,100 policymakers didn't know, and nobody was doing anything about it other than Lou 138 00:10:15,100 --> 00:10:17,480 and a handful of colleagues. 139 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,400 I was shocked and I was stunned, and immediately... 140 00:10:22,060 --> 00:10:26,720 was concerned about intelligence failures that have occurred in the past 141 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,840 disasters that have ensued and determined immediately to do whatever I 142 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,960 help get Lou to the Secretary of Defense to move that information forward. 143 00:10:35,260 --> 00:10:40,180 Each time Jay and I and others tried to raise the alarm bells and bring this 144 00:10:40,180 --> 00:10:44,680 issue up to the appropriate level, we were met with fierce resistance. 145 00:10:44,940 --> 00:10:50,600 The stigma alone and the taboo of the topic, the historical association of 146 00:10:51,260 --> 00:10:56,460 was something that for most people in leadership positions was too big of a 147 00:10:56,460 --> 00:11:01,580 to swallow. In fact, the stigma was so strong that people either believed, A, 148 00:11:01,700 --> 00:11:08,600 the topic wasn't real, or B, the stigma was going to somehow taint or 149 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,660 tarnish their career so they didn't want to touch it. We couldn't get the 150 00:11:11,660 --> 00:11:16,760 leadership in the Pentagon to look at the actual scientific data that showed 151 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,900 that there is a strong national security threat. 152 00:11:20,250 --> 00:11:23,850 They were more worried about the impact on their reputation than they were about 153 00:11:23,850 --> 00:11:24,910 the safety of the nation. 154 00:11:26,770 --> 00:11:30,990 On top of that, we were shocked to find we were getting pushback from people in 155 00:11:30,990 --> 00:11:33,010 the Pentagon based on their religious beliefs. 156 00:11:33,630 --> 00:11:38,190 There really were religious fundamentalist extremists within the 157 00:11:38,190 --> 00:11:42,890 had a severe adversity to this topic. These are national security experts, 158 00:11:43,130 --> 00:11:45,890 senior members of the national intelligence community who are putting 159 00:11:45,890 --> 00:11:47,250 religion above national security. 160 00:11:47,610 --> 00:11:52,670 A senior DOD official actually stopped me in the hallway in the Pentagon and 161 00:11:52,670 --> 00:11:55,870 told me that we were doing the devil's work. I had to deal with people who were 162 00:11:55,870 --> 00:12:01,300 senior to me who were telling me... In their world, these are demons, and we 163 00:12:01,300 --> 00:12:05,500 poking demons and messing in Satan's world and all these other things that, 164 00:12:05,500 --> 00:12:08,800 me, I was like, I can't believe this is coming out of your mouth. I'm briefing 165 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,720 about an advanced aerospace vehicle that has been detected on multiple sensors 166 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,800 that's absolutely there, and you're telling me that you think these are 167 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,120 and that we shouldn't even look at them and study them. My mind was blown. 168 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:27,210 While we were trying to overcome all of these hurdles, we discovered another 169 00:12:27,210 --> 00:12:30,090 deeply hidden and much larger UAP program. 170 00:12:32,270 --> 00:12:39,230 This program was so sensitive that it was withheld from the 171 00:12:39,230 --> 00:12:44,270 Secretary of Defense, Congress, and even the President of the United States. 172 00:12:44,910 --> 00:12:48,670 This program is referred to as the Legacy Program. 173 00:12:49,580 --> 00:12:55,660 This program had been capturing, retrieving, and reverse engineering UAPs 174 00:12:55,660 --> 00:12:57,080 at least 1947. 175 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:03,860 On numerous occasions, these retrievals included the bodies of non -humans, 176 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,700 some sort of intelligence, intelligent being that is not human. 177 00:13:09,420 --> 00:13:13,920 When Jay and I began knocking on doors and trying to get access into the Legacy 178 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:18,160 program, there was this almost like an immune response. 179 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,480 by the Legacy Program, and antibodies came out of everywhere to try to shut us 180 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:29,000 down. We began communicating with scientists involved in the Legacy 181 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,700 their leaders, when they learned of this, shut it down aggressively. 182 00:13:32,020 --> 00:13:36,820 Not only were we met with fierce resistance and stonewalling, we actually 183 00:13:36,820 --> 00:13:41,320 people angry at us that were even asking the question itself, as in, you know, 184 00:13:41,340 --> 00:13:46,180 what right do we have to inquire about the Legacy Program, despite the fact 185 00:13:46,180 --> 00:13:48,320 we were running AATIP? Put yourself in my shoes. 186 00:13:48,730 --> 00:13:52,950 I'm conducting investigations of ongoing UAP activity, and there's this legacy 187 00:13:52,950 --> 00:13:56,770 program that has at least 80 years of information that could help us better 188 00:13:56,770 --> 00:14:00,630 understand this problem and protect national security, and they refuse to 189 00:14:00,630 --> 00:14:01,630 it to us. 190 00:14:04,830 --> 00:14:09,770 When it became clear that we couldn't work through the system, I knew from 191 00:14:09,770 --> 00:14:14,390 experience having worked with the Senate Armed Services Committee what it takes 192 00:14:14,390 --> 00:14:16,950 to move this oil tanker. Think about this. 193 00:14:17,869 --> 00:14:22,190 immense, immense ship that has massive inertia. 194 00:14:22,870 --> 00:14:26,590 And you're trying to get it to change course. When it comes to the Department 195 00:14:26,590 --> 00:14:31,650 Defense, only Congress has the wherewithal to do that. 196 00:14:31,890 --> 00:14:36,870 And the way to get Congress's attention is first and foremost through the press. 197 00:14:37,170 --> 00:14:43,030 I knew we had to get the press engaged, to help get the Hill engaged, to then 198 00:14:43,030 --> 00:14:44,030 get back. 199 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:49,620 to changing the Defense Department to study this problem to figure out, is 200 00:14:49,620 --> 00:14:52,220 a threat? Where are these things coming from and how do they work? 201 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,160 As government employees, we're not allowed to talk to the media. 202 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,000 So Lou and I strategize on how to overcome this hurdle. 203 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:01,840 There were really only two choices. 204 00:15:02,940 --> 00:15:07,760 The first choice was make peace with silence and sit on what is humanity's 205 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,320 greatest secret, all the while keeping Americans in the dark. 206 00:15:12,700 --> 00:15:13,700 Or two. 207 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,920 I could resign my position in protest and fulfill my obligations to the 208 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,160 people by telling the truth about what I know about UAP. 209 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:34,720 There was this difficult moment where Lou had to decide, do I throw in 210 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:35,419 the towel? 211 00:15:35,420 --> 00:15:38,060 Do we give up on this? Do we ignore this? 212 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,120 Or does he fall on his sword? 213 00:15:41,630 --> 00:15:45,890 I couldn't nor would I ever reveal classified information, but I knew that 214 00:15:45,890 --> 00:15:51,330 could say just enough at the unclassified level to make the media 215 00:15:51,330 --> 00:15:55,550 government officials aware of the reality of the UAP topic, then Jay 216 00:15:55,550 --> 00:15:59,210 would be able to use that momentum to go ahead and achieve the goals that we set 217 00:15:59,210 --> 00:16:00,930 out to achieve inside the government. 218 00:16:03,350 --> 00:16:07,950 And we had a number of difficult conversations because Lou was giving up 219 00:16:07,950 --> 00:16:13,080 very... promising career he loved what he was doing he was very good at what he 220 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:20,080 was doing it's such a profound life decision for lou to make 221 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:25,820 for himself and his family during one of my routine hellish commutes back home 222 00:16:25,820 --> 00:16:29,880 as i was stuck in traffic looking in front of me and behind me and seeing 223 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:35,700 thousands of cars i had this profound sense of isolation a feeling i had never 224 00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:42,480 felt before in my life a feeling that that i was completely alone i might as 225 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:47,820 well been living on the dark side of the moon none of these people around me in 226 00:16:47,820 --> 00:16:54,440 fact no one anywhere had any idea of what was actually going on around them 227 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,280 not a clue i thought to myself these individuals 228 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:03,060 deserve to know the truth, the mere fact that we're not alone in the universe. 229 00:17:03,220 --> 00:17:08,900 How can any one organization, institution, religion, or government 230 00:17:08,900 --> 00:17:11,480 or censor that or gatekeep that? 231 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:17,980 No one has the right to keep fundamental truths away from the American people 232 00:17:17,980 --> 00:17:19,359 and humanity. 233 00:17:20,570 --> 00:17:25,190 CNN has learned the Pentagon had a secretive program to research UFOs. The 234 00:17:25,190 --> 00:17:30,230 existence of a secret government program to investigate UFO sightings. A recent 235 00:17:30,230 --> 00:17:34,390 report by the New York Times unveiled the existence of a real -life X -Files 236 00:17:34,390 --> 00:17:38,230 department. Their secret government program to investigate mysterious flying 237 00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:42,390 objects. This seems potentially like one of the biggest stories of my lifetime. 238 00:17:42,670 --> 00:17:46,250 These aircraft, we'll call them aircraft, are displaying 239 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:51,840 that are not currently within the U .S. inventory nor in any foreign inventory. 240 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:59,920 This is a very serious national security issue. Something is in our skies. It 241 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:01,560 has been there for quite some time. 242 00:18:02,540 --> 00:18:06,700 If you have objects that are doing things, maneuvering in ways without any 243 00:18:06,700 --> 00:18:10,960 obvious sign of propulsion, my submission is that what we are looking 244 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:16,610 truly... By definition, exotic technologies beyond next generation 245 00:18:17,010 --> 00:18:20,890 And the bureaucracy in the Department of Defense really limited our ability to 246 00:18:20,890 --> 00:18:23,650 keep leadership informed of what we were seeing. 247 00:18:28,910 --> 00:18:32,410 As soon as the media started paying attention, Congress started paying 248 00:18:32,410 --> 00:18:35,770 attention. I started getting calls from the Hill for briefings. Senators 249 00:18:35,770 --> 00:18:39,530 received a classified briefing about UFOs at the Pentagon. 250 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,600 Senator Mark Warner, who is the vice chair of the Intelligence Committee, 251 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,740 look, I think it's important that the military is taking this more seriously 252 00:18:47,740 --> 00:18:49,460 than they did in the past. 253 00:18:49,700 --> 00:18:53,880 Senator Rubio and Senator Warner, to their great credit, put national 254 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:58,700 above their own personal political careers and took the risk of engaging 255 00:18:58,700 --> 00:19:00,080 publicly on this issue. 256 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,680 When they began to engage, the Defense Department had to admit to the world 257 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,700 this was real and it was happening. And that immediately took the entire 258 00:19:08,700 --> 00:19:11,940 credibility of the issue up a huge notch. 259 00:19:12,380 --> 00:19:15,840 The U .S. Navy has finally acknowledged that videos appearing to show UFOs 260 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,840 flying through the air are real. 261 00:19:18,300 --> 00:19:23,300 Commander David Fravor describing it like a 40 -foot long tic -tac. The 262 00:19:23,300 --> 00:19:27,400 to hover over the water and then start a vertical climb from basically zero up 263 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,840 towards about 12 ,000 feet. 264 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,460 and then accelerate in less than two seconds and disappear is something I had 265 00:19:33,460 --> 00:19:34,460 never seen in my life. 266 00:19:37,900 --> 00:19:42,280 We've had repeated instances of something operating in the airspace over 267 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,740 restricted nuclear facilities, and it's not ours, and we don't know whose it is. 268 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:51,720 That alone, just that statement alone, deserves inquiry, deserves attention. 269 00:19:52,250 --> 00:19:53,129 deserves focus. 270 00:19:53,130 --> 00:19:57,630 If you have objects in the sky that you cannot identify, that's a problem 271 00:19:57,630 --> 00:20:01,590 because it could be China, it could be Russia, it could be any adversary. 272 00:20:01,970 --> 00:20:05,850 Well, any explained phenomenon could pose a natural threat. 273 00:20:06,490 --> 00:20:11,470 That's the way you have to treat those things. There's something violating our 274 00:20:11,470 --> 00:20:16,070 airspace. There's something fouling our ranges that even the people we've tasked 275 00:20:16,070 --> 00:20:19,150 in the executive branch to understand this cannot... 276 00:20:19,890 --> 00:20:21,050 provide an explanation. 277 00:20:21,310 --> 00:20:24,790 So I would say, in addition to the national security implications, this has 278 00:20:24,790 --> 00:20:27,450 implications for basic trust and confidence in the American government. 279 00:20:27,650 --> 00:20:29,410 We just simply don't know the origin of the phenomena. 280 00:20:29,670 --> 00:20:32,610 And we're going to try to get to the bottom of it because for national 281 00:20:32,610 --> 00:20:35,250 purposes, some of these have been in areas that we train. 282 00:20:35,630 --> 00:20:39,750 These have been in areas where we've got some of our best equipment, and yet our 283 00:20:39,750 --> 00:20:43,450 best equipment has not been able to tag these things. We've not been able to go 284 00:20:43,450 --> 00:20:46,970 in and catch them. No matter what they are, they're invading our airspace, and 285 00:20:46,970 --> 00:20:47,959 we don't... 286 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,780 know exactly why they're doing it, what their intent is, and what their 287 00:20:50,780 --> 00:20:51,780 capabilities are. 288 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,340 In addition to the national security concerns, this violation of all -nation 289 00:20:57,340 --> 00:21:02,000 sovereign airspace presents a safety of flight concern for all military and 290 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,000 civilian aviation. 291 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,740 And the even scarier thing is that the Federal Aviation Administration stopped 292 00:21:07,740 --> 00:21:11,420 using radar to track our air travel. They only track aircraft. 293 00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:15,620 predominantly commercial and civilian, that are squawking. So they're actually 294 00:21:15,620 --> 00:21:18,120 putting a signal into the system saying, here's where I am. 295 00:21:18,860 --> 00:21:22,480 The only way they know the UAP are there is if the pilot sees something and says 296 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,480 something. 297 00:21:23,900 --> 00:21:29,120 The fact that the FAA is not tracking UAP is putting American lives at risk 298 00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:30,120 every day. 299 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,320 I'm Brett Fetterson. I served as the Director of Aviation Security in the 300 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,320 National Security Council. 301 00:21:36,970 --> 00:21:40,930 and as the acting director for the Federal Aviation Administration's 302 00:21:40,930 --> 00:21:46,650 Security Programs Office, I can say through my experience that we are 303 00:21:46,650 --> 00:21:48,250 not alone in this universe. 304 00:21:48,550 --> 00:21:52,410 The biggest thing that concerns me with UAPs is the national security concern. 305 00:21:52,670 --> 00:21:56,570 It's the unknown. It's the fact that this technology does stuff that we can't 306 00:21:56,570 --> 00:22:01,090 do. And if we can't figure out what it is or what it wants or what it's being 307 00:22:01,090 --> 00:22:05,210 used for, it keeps me up at night in the idea that we're behind the power curve. 308 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,760 We want to be able to maintain the cutting -edge technology and the 309 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,980 here in the United States so that we can sleep comfortably at night and feel the 310 00:22:13,980 --> 00:22:18,200 safety of what the American government has provided. There's sort of, I think, 311 00:22:18,340 --> 00:22:24,380 four hypotheses out there, one of which is that this is foreign adversary 312 00:22:24,380 --> 00:22:28,280 technology that we simply don't understand or weren't aware of, and that 313 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,460 amount to probably the biggest intelligence failure in modern American 314 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,420 The second of which is that this is a robust counterintelligence program to 315 00:22:36,420 --> 00:22:42,720 cover up for a U .S. government effort that has fallen kind of away from 316 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,760 congressional oversight. 317 00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:48,660 A third hypothesis is obviously that this is interdimensional or 318 00:22:48,660 --> 00:22:52,920 extraterrestrial. And then fourth could be a combination of the previous three. 319 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,880 Some of the biggest strategic blunders in human history. The foundation of 320 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,580 blunders were a lack of imagination. The belief that an adversary or whoever 321 00:23:03,580 --> 00:23:07,280 could not do something because it had never been done before. The U .S. 322 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,240 it was safe for those ships in Pearl Harbor because we didn't think that the 323 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,880 Japanese could get there, much less have torpedoes that could navigate such a 324 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,360 narrow strait and hit these ships until they did. 325 00:23:18,460 --> 00:23:20,240 We never thought in our wildest dreams. 326 00:23:20,750 --> 00:23:24,590 that terrorists would strike us in the homeland by training for a year to 327 00:23:24,590 --> 00:23:28,770 pilots and then hijacking commercial aircraft and crashing them into 328 00:23:28,990 --> 00:23:29,990 And they did. 329 00:23:30,010 --> 00:23:34,710 So the thing that always keeps me up at night, something in the human psyche 330 00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:40,530 that says, I don't have time or energy to sort of prepare for the unforeseen or 331 00:23:40,530 --> 00:23:42,010 what I've never seen done before. 332 00:23:42,650 --> 00:23:48,090 And, you know, that leads to strategic surprise and sometimes strategic 333 00:23:48,090 --> 00:23:50,030 surprises that change the course of human history. 334 00:23:53,870 --> 00:23:57,330 There was one classified briefing that I gave to members of the House and Senate 335 00:23:57,330 --> 00:24:01,410 where I took military pilots to tell them the story of their encounters with 336 00:24:01,410 --> 00:24:05,230 UAP. Those stories left them so rattled that they had trouble sleeping that 337 00:24:05,230 --> 00:24:06,230 night. 338 00:24:06,550 --> 00:24:11,030 The United States' most trusted military servicemen and women and irrefutable 339 00:24:11,030 --> 00:24:15,150 data from our intelligence collection systems have been observing UAP for 340 00:24:15,150 --> 00:24:16,150 decades. 341 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,180 Everything observed can be categorized by five distinct performance 342 00:24:22,180 --> 00:24:26,220 characteristics. At AATIP, we call these the observables. 343 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:31,220 The first observable is hypersonic velocity. 344 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:38,780 Our current fastest aircraft can go roughly 4 ,600 miles per hour. However, 345 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:44,240 the UAP we are observing are traveling at 40 ,000 miles per hour and sometimes 346 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,240 faster. 347 00:24:46,670 --> 00:24:51,870 The next observable is instantaneous acceleration, the sudden change in 348 00:24:51,870 --> 00:24:57,490 velocity. At full speed, the SR -71, known as the Blackbird, requires roughly 349 00:24:57,490 --> 00:25:00,090 half the state of Ohio to complete its turn. 350 00:25:00,570 --> 00:25:05,350 What we are seeing with UAP are vehicles that can make immediate right -angle 351 00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:09,170 turns, instantaneously accelerating and stopping on a dime. 352 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,280 at speeds up to 10 times faster than the SR -71. 353 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,220 If you're in a sustained fight, you can get up to 7 .5 Gs. It gets physically 354 00:25:17,220 --> 00:25:22,860 painful over time to be under that amount of gravity. And that's just going 355 00:25:22,860 --> 00:25:25,280 0 to 200 miles an hour in about 2 .5 seconds. 356 00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:30,540 Now think of going 0 to thousands of miles an hour in less than a second, 357 00:25:30,540 --> 00:25:34,060 the force would be on your body. The human body can only take so much before 358 00:25:34,060 --> 00:25:37,320 internal organs start to separate themselves from everything they're 359 00:25:37,460 --> 00:25:38,820 which is usually bad. 360 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,980 Even if it was a drone, it would rip the drone, the unmanned vehicle, apart. 361 00:25:44,260 --> 00:25:49,240 The next observable is low observability. All modern technology 362 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,240 signature. 363 00:25:50,260 --> 00:25:54,360 For example, most aircraft leave visible contrails as they fly. 364 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,040 We usually hear a sonic boom associated with the sound barrier being broken. 365 00:25:59,260 --> 00:26:02,340 UAP, however, leave almost no observable signatures. 366 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:09,040 Our airplanes actually throw out exhaust behind it and thrust behind it to push 367 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,040 it forward. 368 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,200 Whatever these things are, they're not doing that. There is no exhaust, no 369 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,000 particles coming off of them that we can see. 370 00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:22,660 The next observable is transmedium travel. 371 00:26:23,150 --> 00:26:26,970 UAP have been observed operating in space, in air, and underwater. 372 00:26:27,310 --> 00:26:31,370 And they are moving seamlessly through each of these environments without any 373 00:26:31,370 --> 00:26:34,670 normal signature and without compromising performance. 374 00:26:35,150 --> 00:26:41,410 We've observed a transmedium capability of these phenomena to move from space to 375 00:26:41,410 --> 00:26:43,530 the atmosphere to the ocean. 376 00:26:43,950 --> 00:26:49,370 In the Aguadilla, Puerto Rico case, a DHS helicopter caught the spherical 377 00:26:49,370 --> 00:26:50,370 flying. 378 00:26:50,570 --> 00:26:55,530 It entered the water and exited the water, so transmedium, without losing 379 00:26:55,530 --> 00:27:00,670 velocity. It goes into the ocean and makes no splash or wake at 74 miles per 380 00:27:00,670 --> 00:27:05,150 hour. I calculated how much force you would require just to propel a 381 00:27:05,150 --> 00:27:09,050 under the water at 74 miles per hour, and you would need a Bezos 7 rocket 382 00:27:09,050 --> 00:27:13,550 or two Learjet engines. That would churn the water up like crazy. So this is a 383 00:27:13,550 --> 00:27:14,930 technology that's frictionless. 384 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,960 The next observable is anti -gravity. UAP seemed to be defying the natural 385 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,420 effects of Earth's gravity without any obvious means of doing so. No signs of 386 00:27:24,420 --> 00:27:29,000 propulsion or lift, meaning no wings. No control surfaces or ability to 387 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,480 maneuver. In 2014 to 2015, we were operating off the coast of Virginia 388 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,700 off the eastern seaboard. 389 00:27:35,790 --> 00:27:40,150 It was during this time that we upgraded our radar from the APG -73 to the APG 390 00:27:40,150 --> 00:27:41,150 -79 radar. 391 00:27:41,270 --> 00:27:45,110 And this allowed us to essentially see more objects we weren't expecting to 392 00:27:46,130 --> 00:27:50,770 And there's a particular case of one of these objects maintaining a complete 393 00:27:50,770 --> 00:27:55,130 stationary position inside of 120 -knot winds, essentially inside of a 394 00:27:55,130 --> 00:27:59,090 hurricane. We're all going against the wind. The wind's 120 miles to the west. 395 00:27:59,350 --> 00:28:00,390 Look at this thing. 396 00:28:00,650 --> 00:28:01,650 It's rotating. 397 00:28:02,260 --> 00:28:05,800 It just seems like they're not affected by the environment the way we are. They 398 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,560 were tracking them from above 80 ,000 feet. 399 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:11,540 So for those that don't know, above 80 ,000, that's where you start getting 400 00:28:11,540 --> 00:28:15,180 space. So these things were coming down. They would sit for like three hours, 401 00:28:15,220 --> 00:28:18,820 and they would go back up, which to my knowledge, we don't have anything that 402 00:28:18,820 --> 00:28:25,300 has the capabilities as far as the energy required to come down, hang out 403 00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:30,440 three hours, and go up. The observed UAP capability exceeds that. 404 00:28:30,780 --> 00:28:35,640 of even the most advanced human technologies that are developed in 405 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:36,640 black programs. 406 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,180 From our exposure, I mean, there's nothing we have that comes close. 407 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,300 There's actually a sixth observable, which is not a flight characteristic. 408 00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:49,260 That is biological effects. 409 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,520 I got started working on this actually in this office. 410 00:28:55,850 --> 00:28:59,790 There was a knock at the door, and two individuals who represented themselves 411 00:28:59,790 --> 00:29:04,110 being with the CIA in an aerospace company came to me and asked for my 412 00:29:04,210 --> 00:29:10,390 They had data of military personnel, intelligence officials, and others 413 00:29:10,390 --> 00:29:14,910 associated with the Department of Defense who had direct interactions with 414 00:29:14,990 --> 00:29:19,450 and because of that direct interaction, suffered some kind of medical harm. 415 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,660 They wanted my help to look at the so -called inflammatory secondary events 416 00:29:24,660 --> 00:29:25,680 might be measured in the blood. 417 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,460 Anything from the... 418 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,980 horrific burns that i've seen on some of the individuals that leads to secondary 419 00:29:31,980 --> 00:29:36,720 problems with autoimmune diseases and sclerosis etc and then the internal 420 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:41,240 scarring that i've seen on some individuals these people had scarring 421 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,700 their bodies and inside of their brains and if you think about it you know if 422 00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:48,620 you get too close to the back end of a jet engine or for instance if you get 423 00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:52,060 close to the transformer system that is powering your neighborhood 424 00:29:52,810 --> 00:29:56,010 There's energy coming out of those things. I mean, those are just human 425 00:29:56,010 --> 00:29:59,810 technologies. Now imagine you've got something which is a more advanced 426 00:29:59,810 --> 00:30:04,970 technology, which is generating some kind of field that allows these objects 427 00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:08,610 move. You can imagine if you get too close to it, you're going to get harmed. 428 00:30:09,910 --> 00:30:14,730 I spent 10 years as an intelligence officer for the Navy, and before that, 429 00:30:14,730 --> 00:30:16,370 years as Air Force intelligence. 430 00:30:17,730 --> 00:30:20,230 And I spent time on the UAP task force. 431 00:30:21,070 --> 00:30:26,410 I'm one of the intelligence officials that has experienced biological effects 432 00:30:26,410 --> 00:30:28,010 encountering UAP. 433 00:30:28,210 --> 00:30:33,830 Since my first encounter, I've observed other craft 434 00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:37,990 or we'll call it exotic energy fields. 435 00:30:38,590 --> 00:30:44,210 Unfortunately, those of us who have investigated it... We become part of the 436 00:30:44,210 --> 00:30:51,210 investigation or investigated by our colleagues. The population had about a 437 00:30:51,210 --> 00:30:54,830 mortality rate within seven years of having an interaction. 438 00:30:55,550 --> 00:31:02,250 Probably important that the public understands that this is more than just 439 00:31:02,250 --> 00:31:03,250 aerial phenomena. 440 00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:09,180 When you have an anecdote that is accompanied by medical data, that's 441 00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:14,020 that I can hand to another scientist, another doctor, and say, here it is, you 442 00:31:14,020 --> 00:31:17,840 explain it. We can argue about what the conclusion is, but we can't argue that 443 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:18,840 the data is real. 444 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,860 The Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence, who understood the 445 00:31:28,860 --> 00:31:33,100 concerns of UAP, directed me to start quietly building out a whole government 446 00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:36,520 interagency effort that ultimately became the UAP Task Force. 447 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,840 This new program was much bigger than AATIP ever was. Our mission was to 448 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,480 analyze, and catalog UAPs that posed a threat to U .S. national security. 449 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,940 I had hand -picked members from all 16 agencies of the intelligence community. 450 00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:56,560 The Secretary of Defense formally announced the UAP Task Force in August 451 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,660 2020, naming me the first director. 452 00:31:59,020 --> 00:32:02,320 Everyone in authority was paying attention to this topic. 453 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:08,800 One very distinctive moment for me was briefing then Secretary of Treasury 454 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,300 Mnuchin. I got through my briefing, and at the end of the brief, he sat back in 455 00:32:13,300 --> 00:32:16,700 his chair, and he said, you know, Jay, you may wonder why I asked for this 456 00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:22,100 briefing. And he said, What are the economic impacts of the president going 457 00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:24,280 the microphone and telling the world we're not alone? 458 00:32:25,540 --> 00:32:31,100 I have to think about those kinds of impacts in order to prepare if the 459 00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:32,400 president were to make that move. 460 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,800 Meanwhile, Chris Mellon and I were working with the Senate behind the 461 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,220 craft UAP legislation that was then. 462 00:32:43,980 --> 00:32:48,680 taken by Marco Rubio and pushed into the coronavirus relief bill. 463 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:55,480 When President Trump signed this legislation into law, it then forced the 464 00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:01,040 Pentagon and the UAP task force to provide written reports to Congress, 465 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,040 classified and unclassified. 466 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,420 The long -awaited Pentagon report on UFOs has finally been released. 467 00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:12,860 The director of national intelligence just a few days ago released a new 468 00:33:12,860 --> 00:33:17,160 on 144 sightings. When we talk about sightings, we're talking about objects 469 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,300 have been seen by Navy or Air Force pilots or have been picked up by 470 00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:25,280 imagery. Frankly, there are a lot more sightings than have been made public. 471 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,260 report clarifies that most incidents over the past two decades are not from 472 00:33:30,260 --> 00:33:34,120 U .S. military or other advanced U .S. government technology. 473 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:40,460 So the issue now is, why are they here, where are they coming from, and what is 474 00:33:40,460 --> 00:33:43,300 the technology behind these devices that we're observing? 475 00:33:43,580 --> 00:33:48,040 As noisy as that first unclassified report was, it barely scratched the 476 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,740 The few elected officials that actually got to read the classified version of 477 00:33:51,740 --> 00:33:54,840 the report, it really opened their eyes to the national security concerns 478 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,180 surrounding this topic. There's enough obvious evidence here that we need to 479 00:33:59,180 --> 00:34:03,020 take this seriously, not downplay it. I don't believe they're coming from 480 00:34:03,020 --> 00:34:04,120 foreign adversaries. 481 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,620 If they were, why, that would suggest that they have a technology which is in 482 00:34:08,620 --> 00:34:10,540 whole different sphere than anything we understand. 483 00:34:11,460 --> 00:34:14,360 And frankly, China and Russia just aren't there. 484 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,620 And neither are we, by the way. They say trillions of gas. galaxies out there, 485 00:34:18,739 --> 00:34:22,360 so who knows what might have developed somewhere else. Does the United States 486 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,480 believe that there may be life outside of Earth? 487 00:34:25,699 --> 00:34:32,460 What we believe is that there are unexplained aerial phenomena that have 488 00:34:32,460 --> 00:34:39,380 cited and reported by pilots, Navy and Air Force, that these phenomena have, 489 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,159 in some cases, had an impact on our training ranges, on our pilots' ability 490 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:46,600 fly, train, operate. 491 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,360 You can stay ready. 492 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:54,659 That alone makes it a national security issue worth looking at. 493 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,340 We don't know. 494 00:34:56,620 --> 00:35:00,120 We don't have the answers about what these phenomena are. 495 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:12,680 As we continue to make progress, a very powerful disinformation campaign 496 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,840 began. 497 00:35:16,910 --> 00:35:19,650 This effort was to destroy my reputation and credibility. 498 00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:20,910 Full stop. 499 00:35:22,970 --> 00:35:26,870 When the government started running this despicable disinformation campaign 500 00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:30,590 against Lou, I actually received an email one day from the Pentagon Public 501 00:35:30,590 --> 00:35:34,270 Affairs Office with this narrative that they were providing back to the media 502 00:35:34,270 --> 00:35:35,450 that was completely false. 503 00:35:36,030 --> 00:35:39,930 And I replied also to that email and said, this is wrong. And they ran with 504 00:35:39,930 --> 00:35:40,930 anyway. 505 00:35:50,190 --> 00:35:54,530 They actually told the American people that Lou Elizondo did not work there, 506 00:35:54,530 --> 00:35:55,610 that was an outright lie. 507 00:35:58,010 --> 00:36:00,070 My family and I suffered greatly for it. 508 00:36:00,430 --> 00:36:03,970 All you have in your life is really your credibility and your work. 509 00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:06,430 It's heartbreaking. 510 00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:15,310 They don't want anybody that's based on facts being involved in this. So what do 511 00:36:15,310 --> 00:36:15,888 they do? 512 00:36:15,890 --> 00:36:17,970 They go online and try to belittle. 513 00:36:18,580 --> 00:36:22,960 Elizondo and me and anybody else that's trying to do it a scientific way. 514 00:36:26,660 --> 00:36:30,520 As hard as it was, I was still being privately encouraged by former members 515 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,380 AATIP to continue the fight. And so that gave me the motivation to continue to 516 00:36:35,380 --> 00:36:39,800 press forward. And the fire that we started continued to spread. After 517 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,460 of public denial, the Pentagon now admits there's something out there. 518 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,440 And the U .S. Senate wants to know what it is. 519 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:54,120 UFOs, unidentified flying objects, are real. The government has already stated 520 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,780 for the record that they're real. I'm not telling you that. The United States 521 00:36:56,780 --> 00:37:01,700 government is telling you that. There's footage and records of objects in the 522 00:37:01,700 --> 00:37:07,560 skies that we don't know exactly what they are. What's your viewpoint on what 523 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,560 these objects that seem to defy all laws of physics are? 524 00:37:14,740 --> 00:37:19,420 Well, first of all, that's a legitimate question now. There are lots of 525 00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:21,960 mysteries out there. It should keep us humble. 526 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,200 There's a lot of stuff we don't know. 527 00:37:24,420 --> 00:37:27,700 There have been sightings all over the world. And when we talk about sightings, 528 00:37:27,740 --> 00:37:32,480 the other thing I will tell you is it's not just a pilot or just a satellite or 529 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,840 some intelligence collection. 530 00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:39,500 Usually we have multiple sensors that are picking up these things. There's 531 00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:41,100 always the question of... 532 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,640 Is there something else that we simply do not understand that might come 533 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,700 extraterrestrially? I think it's a bit presumptuous and not arrogant for us to 534 00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:54,240 believe that there's no other form of life anywhere in the entire universe. 535 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,020 I've seen some of those videos from Navy pilots, and I must tell you that they 536 00:37:58,020 --> 00:38:04,800 are quite eyebrow -raising and might in fact be some type of phenomenon that 537 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,460 is the result of something that we don't yet understand. 538 00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:17,240 And that could involve some type of activity that some might say constitutes 539 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:18,240 different form of life. 540 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:27,780 We don't know if the non -human intelligence that is already here is 541 00:38:27,780 --> 00:38:34,020 extraterrestrial or perhaps some sort of crypto -terrestrial. Some people who 542 00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:35,260 are into... 543 00:38:35,470 --> 00:38:39,250 The physics of time travel thinks, well, maybe they're time travelers. Even some 544 00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:44,470 sort of proto -human that somehow branched off from the human family tree 545 00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:49,510 ago and is as natural to this planet as we are. Some ancient civilization that's 546 00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:53,190 sequestered away somewhere on the Earth or on the seabed. 547 00:38:54,610 --> 00:39:00,570 We've heard testimonials from pilots as well as civilians from different 548 00:39:00,570 --> 00:39:04,530 countries having seen things come from the ocean. 549 00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:10,180 Unexplained things. And these aren't missiles. They aren't rockets. They 550 00:39:10,180 --> 00:39:11,420 aircraft or submarines. 551 00:39:11,660 --> 00:39:16,560 These are otherworldly things that are performing maneuvers that haven't been 552 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:22,240 seen. In fact, we have tracked UAP underwater going at speeds in excess of 553 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:26,700 several hundred miles an hour, but without the associated signatures. 554 00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:31,240 I retired as the oceanographer of the Navy, being the senior advisor for the 555 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:33,080 chief of naval operations in the Pentagon. 556 00:39:34,350 --> 00:39:39,750 Our knowledge of the ocean is rather limited. We haven't even explored 80 % 557 00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:40,750 the ocean volume. 558 00:39:42,170 --> 00:39:46,770 We have mapped the surface of Mars and the moon to a higher resolution than the 559 00:39:46,770 --> 00:39:52,290 Earth's seafloor. Is it possible that whatever we're seeing isn't from out 560 00:39:52,290 --> 00:39:54,650 there? It's from down there. 561 00:39:55,170 --> 00:39:58,210 Are we looking at an entire world? 562 00:39:59,140 --> 00:40:03,460 underneath the water. I think it's very safe to say that with so much of the 563 00:40:03,460 --> 00:40:08,960 ocean volume unexplored and the sea floor unmapped, that if any intelligence 564 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:14,280 were to arrive here and not want to be detected, it would stay in the ocean. 565 00:40:14,860 --> 00:40:20,400 All these possibilities could come with different intentions and motivations. 566 00:40:20,860 --> 00:40:23,580 Whoever it is, they're here. 567 00:40:24,460 --> 00:40:26,480 And they're operating here. 568 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,000 And they have been operating here for a long time. 569 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:44,980 In 2022, we started pushing Congress hard to hold public UAP hearings. And 570 00:40:44,980 --> 00:40:47,640 that's when disclosure started to get to the next level. 571 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,320 A House panel is holding a public hearing. 572 00:40:53,820 --> 00:40:55,920 on mysterious flying objects. 573 00:40:56,220 --> 00:40:58,800 The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee describes this as one of the 574 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,500 great mysteries of our time. And it's a big day for all of these people who have 575 00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:07,800 spent so many years pushing for more transparency into this topic. Out of 576 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,020 everything in Congress and everything happening currently in our country and 577 00:41:11,020 --> 00:41:17,980 world right now, the UAP topic has been one of the only topics that's received 578 00:41:17,980 --> 00:41:19,300 this level of bipartisan support. 579 00:41:19,660 --> 00:41:23,260 It's just not an issue, at least as of yet, in this country that lends itself 580 00:41:23,260 --> 00:41:25,720 some sort of partisan or ideological divide. 581 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,640 Democrats and Republicans just want to understand what's going on. 582 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,820 This hearing and oversight work has a simple idea at its core. 583 00:41:36,340 --> 00:41:41,860 Unidentified aerial phenomena are a potential national security threat, and 584 00:41:41,860 --> 00:41:42,940 need to be treated that way. 585 00:41:43,580 --> 00:41:45,480 UAPs are unexplained. It's true. 586 00:41:45,860 --> 00:41:46,900 But they are real. 587 00:41:47,220 --> 00:41:48,600 They need to be investigated. 588 00:41:49,150 --> 00:41:52,530 and many threats they pose need to be mitigated. There is something there 589 00:41:52,530 --> 00:41:56,430 measurable by multiple instruments, and yet it seems to move in directions that 590 00:41:56,430 --> 00:42:00,710 are inconsistent with what we know of physics or science more broadly. 591 00:42:00,930 --> 00:42:05,950 There are a number of events in which we do not have an explanation, in which 592 00:42:05,950 --> 00:42:10,810 there are flight characteristics or signature management that we can't 593 00:42:11,150 --> 00:42:13,010 We know there are service members... 594 00:42:13,230 --> 00:42:16,490 have encountered unidentified aerial phenomena. 595 00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:22,110 And because UAPs pose potential flight safety and general security risks, we 596 00:42:22,110 --> 00:42:25,610 committed to a focused effort to determine their origins. The 597 00:42:25,890 --> 00:42:29,810 systems, processes, and sources we use to observe, record, study, or analyze 598 00:42:29,810 --> 00:42:33,150 these phenomena need to be classified at appropriate levels. 599 00:42:33,390 --> 00:42:38,930 We do not want, we do not want potential adversaries to know exactly what we're 600 00:42:38,930 --> 00:42:42,370 able to see or understand or how we come to the conclusions we make. 601 00:42:42,750 --> 00:42:47,650 Therefore, public disclosures must be carefully considered on a case -by -case 602 00:42:47,650 --> 00:42:53,890 basis. The hearing was a historic bipartisan effort towards transparency, 603 00:42:53,890 --> 00:42:57,730 left both the American public and Congress with more questions than 604 00:42:58,350 --> 00:43:02,750 While I was making progress, I learned that the legacy program was quietly 605 00:43:02,750 --> 00:43:06,290 behind the scenes pushing back, and they were creating bureaucratic hurdles. 606 00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:09,730 They were somehow able to block the funding that was approved for the UAP 607 00:43:09,730 --> 00:43:13,070 force. I can't describe it any other way than I was just angry. There's this 608 00:43:13,070 --> 00:43:17,070 hidden hand that is blocking all of these actions and things that I'm doing. 609 00:43:17,290 --> 00:43:22,090 A subversive government overriding the real government. It's so bad that we 610 00:43:22,090 --> 00:43:25,370 really aren't going to make progress until someone shines the light on them. 611 00:43:26,990 --> 00:43:29,870 And then the staff and the members start to dig in more. 612 00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:33,410 They begin to understand the landscape. 613 00:43:33,830 --> 00:43:38,330 They begin to understand how much secrecy there is, how much resistance 614 00:43:38,330 --> 00:43:39,470 to coming clean on this. 615 00:43:42,570 --> 00:43:47,350 As Congress began hearing from whistleblowers in classified settings, 616 00:43:47,350 --> 00:43:49,770 to the realization of the existence of the legacy program. 617 00:43:54,410 --> 00:43:59,210 The main players in the legacy program have long been the Central Intelligence 618 00:43:59,210 --> 00:44:05,490 Agency, the United States Air Force, the Department of Energy, and major defense 619 00:44:05,490 --> 00:44:11,430 contractors. The Central Intelligence Agency is responsible for the oversight 620 00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:12,430 the overall effort. 621 00:44:12,670 --> 00:44:16,050 You might think of them as a little bit of a headquarters element. 622 00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:21,630 The Deputy Director of Science and Technology at the CIA controls the UAP 623 00:44:21,630 --> 00:44:23,050 retrieval portfolio. 624 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,500 The United States Air Force is responsible for field operations. 625 00:44:27,820 --> 00:44:32,400 These are the folks that are responsible for deploying within moment's notice 626 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,700 anywhere in the world to go secure and retrieve crashed UAP. 627 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:46,660 We have intelligence teams quickly notified if there's some UAP event that 628 00:44:46,660 --> 00:44:50,140 involve a crash vehicle or pieces from a crash vehicle. 629 00:44:50,380 --> 00:44:53,940 The United States Air Force uses their own special forces, but they also 630 00:44:53,940 --> 00:44:57,540 coordinate with other special forces in the other branches of the U .S. 631 00:44:57,540 --> 00:44:58,540 military. 632 00:44:59,020 --> 00:45:04,280 They're so well organized that they basically can get to a site, gather 633 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,160 material, whatever it is, and once it's in their possession... 634 00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:14,520 They have the authority to classify it and therefore make any information about 635 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:19,860 it unavailable to the public, even admission that it exists unavailable to 636 00:45:19,860 --> 00:45:26,360 public. The defense contractors, they're responsible for the exploitation and 637 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,340 the reverse engineering and analysis of the materials. They provide technical 638 00:45:30,340 --> 00:45:33,540 and advisory services that the government doesn't have. 639 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,860 And last but not least is the Department of Energy. 640 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:42,140 They are the world's experts in anything that is related to either atomic or 641 00:45:42,140 --> 00:45:45,040 nuclear technology or anything that gives off radiation. 642 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,760 But there's another advantage because the Department of Energy has its own 643 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:56,000 security classification system well outside the overview and oversight, if 644 00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,980 will, of traditional classification systems like the Department of Defense 645 00:46:00,980 --> 00:46:02,420 the intelligence community. 646 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,200 They've used the security and classification. 647 00:46:07,230 --> 00:46:12,730 in the Atomic Energy Act to hide the legacy crash retrieval program. 648 00:46:15,770 --> 00:46:21,550 The intelligence officials that have briefed on these crash retrievals have 649 00:46:21,550 --> 00:46:26,530 talked about a number of different species having been observed to be 650 00:46:26,530 --> 00:46:27,428 with the crash. 651 00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:30,150 The bodies recovered are not all the same type. 652 00:46:31,790 --> 00:46:35,570 I'm aware of at least two advanced non -human species. 653 00:46:36,410 --> 00:46:41,450 one of which made contact with the Legacy Crash Retrieval Program, the 654 00:46:41,450 --> 00:46:45,930 which the bodies were recovered by the Crash Retrieval Program in various 655 00:46:45,930 --> 00:46:50,310 crashes. One of the questions that's often raised, if they're so advanced, 656 00:46:50,310 --> 00:46:51,310 are there crashes? 657 00:46:51,350 --> 00:46:56,350 But of course, I mean, you know, cars are well made and people drive them 658 00:46:56,350 --> 00:46:59,270 carefully, but there are crashes. It can happen. 659 00:46:59,670 --> 00:47:05,450 Another option that's being considered is that maybe some of these were not, 660 00:47:05,470 --> 00:47:12,320 quote, really crashes but that they were left here for us to examine in 661 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:17,120 order to advance our technology forward at a faster pace so in that sense they 662 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:22,200 can be seen as gifts from more intelligent species one of the questions 663 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,720 would then be raised would be well are gifts distributed differently among 664 00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:34,300 different nations or more or less homogeneously to see who 665 00:47:35,260 --> 00:47:37,440 survives and makes progress to pass this. 666 00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:41,060 It could be a giant IQ test, you might say. 667 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:51,280 As we brought whistleblowers to Congress, we learned that the legacy 668 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:57,700 involved in a long -running secret war with other nations to collect and 669 00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:01,640 engineer vehicles not made by humans. 670 00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:12,620 In this secret theater of war, the U .S. has both allies and adversaries in a 671 00:48:12,620 --> 00:48:14,780 winner takes all scenario. 672 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:22,880 This is a very complicated geopolitical landscape where alliances and 673 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,940 allegiances shift like sand in the desert. 674 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,740 We would certainly prefer a situation where the retrieval is either 675 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,520 in international waters or some other uncontested location, or maybe in an 676 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:43,300 allied country, but every country in the world would do everything in their 677 00:48:43,300 --> 00:48:46,820 power to try to retrieve an exquisite piece of technology. 678 00:48:47,220 --> 00:48:51,520 The first country that cracks the code on this technology will be the leader 679 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,700 years to come. This is similar to the Manhattan Project. We developed the 680 00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:58,720 weapon, we won the war, and it made us a superpower for almost a century now. 681 00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:01,720 This is the atomic weapon on steroids. 682 00:49:02,020 --> 00:49:06,840 Some of the craft could be the result of, say, our legacy program. 683 00:49:07,180 --> 00:49:12,460 Or, on the other hand, it might be the result of advancements made by potential 684 00:49:12,460 --> 00:49:14,700 adversaries. We have seen... 685 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:21,560 Highly credible U .S. government intelligence on the Soviet recovery of a 686 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:27,740 crashed UAP in 1989. They recovered a tic -tac -shaped UAP that was twice as 687 00:49:27,740 --> 00:49:32,380 as the tic -tac that was encountered by the USS Nimitz carrier strike group, and 688 00:49:32,380 --> 00:49:36,640 they did recover four bodies of humanoid aliens. 689 00:49:36,860 --> 00:49:42,540 The Soviet scientists took apart the recovered craft and discovered... 690 00:49:43,150 --> 00:49:46,650 a very advanced directed energy weapon. 691 00:49:47,110 --> 00:49:50,750 China is at the top of everybody's list of concern right now in the Defense 692 00:49:50,750 --> 00:49:55,590 Department. Some of this UAP activity we are seeing here in the United States 693 00:49:55,590 --> 00:50:01,630 may actually be a result of a Chinese UAP reverse engineering program. 694 00:50:02,830 --> 00:50:08,630 If Xi Jinping had access to this, if Putin had access to this, and they 695 00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:12,570 that we did not have access to similar capabilities than what they did, 696 00:50:13,549 --> 00:50:18,250 Do you think for a second that they wouldn't consider using it to achieve 697 00:50:18,250 --> 00:50:19,250 ends of domination? 698 00:50:19,690 --> 00:50:24,130 And if their approach to it is driven by science and a desire to match what they 699 00:50:24,130 --> 00:50:27,870 think is ours, we'll wake up one day and realize, I don't know how they got 700 00:50:27,870 --> 00:50:29,870 there, but they got there ahead of us and now we're screwed. 701 00:50:30,690 --> 00:50:36,130 This technology can absolutely either revolutionize the way we do things or 702 00:50:36,130 --> 00:50:38,690 completely destroy everything that we know. 703 00:50:39,070 --> 00:50:40,510 It often reminds me. 704 00:50:40,810 --> 00:50:45,670 of the famous speech by President John F. Kennedy when we were right at the 705 00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:50,530 threshold of entering into a new era of discovery in space. 706 00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:55,150 There is new knowledge to be gained and new rights to be won. 707 00:50:55,650 --> 00:51:00,430 And they must be won and used for the progress of all people. 708 00:51:01,050 --> 00:51:07,550 For space science, like nuclear science and all technology, has no conscience of 709 00:51:07,550 --> 00:51:08,550 its own. 710 00:51:08,810 --> 00:51:13,170 Whether it will become a force for good or ill depends on man. 711 00:51:13,550 --> 00:51:19,330 And only if the United States occupies a position of preeminence 712 00:51:19,330 --> 00:51:26,210 can we help decide whether this new ocean will be a sea of 713 00:51:26,210 --> 00:51:29,950 peace or a new terrifying theater of war. 714 00:51:33,610 --> 00:51:37,770 So secret, there have been very, very few people in our entire government that 715 00:51:37,770 --> 00:51:40,350 have been allowed or provided access to it. 716 00:51:43,050 --> 00:51:47,250 Some presidents have been briefed on the basic facts about the situation, but 717 00:51:47,250 --> 00:51:49,050 they are not provided with all the details. 718 00:51:49,590 --> 00:51:53,150 I think there's this assumption that presidents can walk in the Oval Office 719 00:51:53,150 --> 00:51:56,170 day one and say, all right, take me to Roswell, show me the alien bodies. I 720 00:51:56,170 --> 00:51:59,090 to see the video of the autopsy. I want to see the whole thing, open it up. I 721 00:51:59,090 --> 00:52:02,290 think that really is a naive. 722 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,240 understanding of how our government works. 723 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,360 Even presidents have often been operating on a need -to -know basis. 724 00:52:12,980 --> 00:52:14,940 That's certainly true from a historic standpoint. 725 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,660 The rationale, the justification was the president shouldn't know about these 726 00:52:19,660 --> 00:52:22,100 things because that way the president always has deniability. 727 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,880 All they need is a nod in this direction or in that direction. But that begins 728 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,100 to ramp out of control. Frankly, I don't even know if the president would know 729 00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:29,979 who to ask. 730 00:52:29,980 --> 00:52:33,780 You could go to the director of the CIA, nowadays the director of national 731 00:52:33,780 --> 00:52:37,300 intelligence, and ask them. And even that person may not know because those 732 00:52:37,300 --> 00:52:38,300 people rotate. 733 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,140 But the people, three layers underneath them that are there for 30 years, to 734 00:52:42,140 --> 00:52:45,800 them, it's like I've seen these people come and go. I have no obligation to 735 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:46,399 them it exists. 736 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,220 It just never percolates out. A lot of people have this assumption that the 737 00:52:50,220 --> 00:52:53,100 director of CIA is right on to everything and knows everything. The 738 00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:54,540 CIA is a political appointee. 739 00:52:55,150 --> 00:52:59,310 Quite frankly, they're temporary help. Whereas the director of science and 740 00:52:59,310 --> 00:53:02,250 technology at CIA, this is a career intelligence professional. 741 00:53:02,510 --> 00:53:04,030 That's where you're going to put the program. 742 00:53:04,290 --> 00:53:08,910 I had a few private conversations with former President George Herbert Walker 743 00:53:08,910 --> 00:53:15,690 Bush in 2003, in which he told me that when he became the CIA director in the 744 00:53:15,690 --> 00:53:18,310 Ford administration, he was not briefed. 745 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,860 on the legacy UAP crash retrieval program, but he later found out about 746 00:53:23,860 --> 00:53:27,560 he informed me that there were a number of crash retrievals that had taken place 747 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:34,520 since the mid -1940s. And he also informed me of a UAP event that took 748 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:40,200 Holloman Air Force Base in 1964, where three UAPs approached the Air Force 749 00:53:40,380 --> 00:53:45,080 One of them landed on the tarmac, and a non -human entity 750 00:53:45,790 --> 00:53:51,150 de -boarded the craft that landed and interacted with uniformed Air Force and 751 00:53:51,150 --> 00:53:53,370 civilian CIA personnel. 752 00:53:53,630 --> 00:53:57,290 And when he asked for more details, he was told that he did not have a need to 753 00:53:57,290 --> 00:53:58,290 know. 754 00:53:59,390 --> 00:54:06,150 I served over 30 years as an Army Green Beret in the United States Army. I ended 755 00:54:06,150 --> 00:54:07,950 my career as Secretary of Defense. 756 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:14,580 official decided i the acting secretary of defense did not have a need to know 757 00:54:14,580 --> 00:54:19,920 about the uap topic several of my colleagues participated in a panel 758 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,140 by the george bush administration when the administration contemplated going 759 00:54:24,140 --> 00:54:29,680 public with disclosure what it was a group of 10 or 12 people from 760 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:35,720 agencies from the military some business people and they said here's what's 761 00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:42,470 going on the americans The Russians and the Chinese all have crash -retrieved 762 00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:48,710 craft from some other civilization. And there's some belief at this point that 763 00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:52,870 maybe this should be revealed to the public. And we want to know, well, what 764 00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:54,150 would the consequences be? 765 00:54:54,370 --> 00:55:00,070 This is a topic that has the potential to create serious ontological shock to 766 00:55:00,070 --> 00:55:02,490 society. It's not just national security. 767 00:55:02,750 --> 00:55:03,990 It's psychological. 768 00:55:04,410 --> 00:55:05,670 It's sociological. 769 00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:09,050 It's... theological, and it's philosophical. 770 00:55:09,490 --> 00:55:13,110 It's undermining, in many ways, it's troubling to a lot of people to say that 771 00:55:13,110 --> 00:55:17,430 there's something else out there. Is it either otherworldly, interdimensional? I 772 00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:22,730 think, unfortunately, it goes against our traditions, our cultural traditions, 773 00:55:22,990 --> 00:55:27,450 our religious traditions, and it challenges the beliefs of a lot of 774 00:55:28,550 --> 00:55:33,230 The Vatican has irrefutable evidence that non -human intelligence exists, 775 00:55:33,530 --> 00:55:35,970 although publicly they don't want to acknowledge it. 776 00:55:36,350 --> 00:55:38,490 Privately, they are very well aware of this. 777 00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:44,970 What happens when society realizes everything it's been taught about the 778 00:55:44,970 --> 00:55:51,390 history of our species has been wrong, and everybody learns all at once that 779 00:55:51,390 --> 00:55:55,630 we're not the top of the food chain, we're not the alpha predators? 780 00:55:55,970 --> 00:55:59,330 It would be a shake -up for institutions, 781 00:56:00,030 --> 00:56:04,510 it'd be a shake -up for norms, it'd be a shake -up in society. 782 00:56:05,180 --> 00:56:11,420 One has to be careful and one has to remember that it's conceivable that 783 00:56:11,420 --> 00:56:16,900 something that's so disturbing or disruptive or negative that there is a 784 00:56:16,900 --> 00:56:21,620 rationale for not immediately disclosing all of that information. 785 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:27,360 We actually came up with a list of 64 areas that really would be impacted to 786 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,140 some significant degree by such a disclosure. 787 00:56:30,380 --> 00:56:34,460 When we add up all the numbers, it looks like this would be kind of a bad idea. 788 00:56:34,910 --> 00:56:40,790 Did you go through the secret files, the UFO document? Now that you're out of 789 00:56:40,790 --> 00:56:43,110 office, you can do anything you want, right? True, yeah. 790 00:56:44,450 --> 00:56:45,850 But I'm not telling you. 791 00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:55,310 Without a doubt, there's hardly been any program that has been so successfully 792 00:56:55,310 --> 00:57:01,530 kept out of the public eye as anything like crash retrievals of unknown craft. 793 00:57:01,810 --> 00:57:03,070 This line... 794 00:57:03,770 --> 00:57:09,850 of strong control started, at least in the Truman administration, with the 795 00:57:09,850 --> 00:57:10,850 Roswell crash. 796 00:57:11,110 --> 00:57:17,430 In AATIP, we learned that the UAP event at the U .S. Army airfield in Roswell in 797 00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:20,070 1947 did actually occur. 798 00:57:20,290 --> 00:57:24,550 It was described to be a boot -heel -shaped UAP that broke into two pieces 799 00:57:24,550 --> 00:57:25,550 impact. 800 00:57:26,220 --> 00:57:30,640 And observers saw what looked like hieroglyphics or some type of writing on 801 00:57:30,740 --> 00:57:34,480 You might describe them as runes or glyphs, hieroglyphs, that were actually 802 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:35,480 the craft itself. 803 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:40,280 And within that crash, non -human bodies were recovered. 804 00:57:40,540 --> 00:57:44,620 Four non -human bodies were recovered from the UAP crash at Roswell. 805 00:57:44,820 --> 00:57:49,080 The recovered material from the crash, including the bodies, were all sent up 806 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,840 Wright Field, which is now called Wright -Patterson Air Force Base. 807 00:57:52,460 --> 00:57:55,080 That's where the U .S. had their best reverse engineers. 808 00:57:56,140 --> 00:57:59,600 Think about the context for everything in 1947. 809 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:06,240 The U .S. had just won World War II and was entering into a Cold War with the 810 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:07,240 USSR. 811 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:15,460 These UAP presented a technology of unfathomable power. 812 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,960 It was imperative that the U .S. be able to reverse engineer this new technology 813 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,280 before anybody else or before anybody else even knew about it. 814 00:58:24,490 --> 00:58:26,470 You can't tell your friends without telling your enemies. 815 00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:30,830 That's a key component to every decision as to what we do or do not release. 816 00:58:31,150 --> 00:58:35,970 Back in 1947, when they looked at this and they realized it was real and they 817 00:58:35,970 --> 00:58:40,590 realized they had no idea what it was, this was something you couldn't just 818 00:58:40,590 --> 00:58:41,590 about because... 819 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,620 The role of the President of the United States and the role of the military is 820 00:58:45,620 --> 00:58:48,200 to defend the United States and to protect its citizens. 821 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,640 If this is something that they can't protect against, well, they're not going 822 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,340 come out and say it. They're not going to scare anybody. 823 00:58:53,580 --> 00:58:57,460 They don't want to tell the American public about the threat because there's 824 00:58:57,460 --> 00:58:58,600 nothing they can do about it. 825 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:04,580 It was only a couple months after Roswell that President Truman signed the 826 00:59:04,580 --> 00:59:08,340 National Security Act of 1947, which established both the Air Force... 827 00:59:08,750 --> 00:59:10,670 and the Central Intelligence Agency. 828 00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:15,970 That was the start point in which both the CIA and the Air Force began to take 829 00:59:15,970 --> 00:59:21,630 operational control of the UAP topic. But it wasn't until a couple years later 830 00:59:21,630 --> 00:59:26,590 when Truman signed the Central Intelligence Agency Act that really 831 00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:32,430 endorsed the CIA to be able to run secret intelligence operations outside 832 00:59:32,430 --> 00:59:36,790 normal routine oversight channels. Basically, be able to run operations 833 00:59:36,790 --> 00:59:37,790 anybody knowing. 834 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:44,340 From Roswell on, the strategy for dealing with the public and ensuring U 835 00:59:44,380 --> 00:59:49,120 secrecy is maintained was to basically adopt the strategy of deny everything, 836 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:55,600 admit nothing, make counter accusations, put out false narratives, intimidate 837 00:59:55,600 --> 01:00:01,800 and discredit witnesses. In essence, deny, deny, deny, establish stigma 838 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,160 surrounding this topic in order to prevent any type of disclosure. 839 01:00:05,610 --> 01:00:12,390 Executive Order 12333 bans covert action to influence the public and the media, 840 01:00:12,530 --> 01:00:18,150 but the Legacy Crash Retrieval Program has been ignoring that. In fact, they 841 01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:22,590 aggressively influencing public opinion by using an active disinformation 842 01:00:22,590 --> 01:00:27,770 campaign. To create the tradition of disbelief, where you basically start 843 01:00:27,770 --> 01:00:31,250 early, that, nah, nah, everybody who sees UFOs are crackpots. 844 01:00:31,580 --> 01:00:35,240 And then that gets built in, you know, to the media enterprise. It gets built 845 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:39,880 into Hollywood. It gets built into the public. CIA funded Hollywood movies in 846 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,720 order to create that ridicule factor that they still use to this day. 847 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:49,460 Do you believe that the recent spike in UFO encounters... I get the UFO 848 01:00:49,460 --> 01:00:51,400 question? Come on, man. 849 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:53,840 I'm not... 850 01:00:56,230 --> 01:00:59,930 I'm just, you know, I loved E .T., the movie, but I'm just going to leave it 851 01:00:59,930 --> 01:01:04,170 there. Up until very recently, there was zero incentive for a naval aviator to 852 01:01:04,170 --> 01:01:07,230 come forward and say, this is what I saw. And honestly, up until very 853 01:01:07,370 --> 01:01:10,430 there was zero incentive for a U .S. senator to talk about it because people 854 01:01:10,430 --> 01:01:14,350 would think, what's wrong? This guy's a weirdo. Over the years, military service 855 01:01:14,350 --> 01:01:18,870 members, intelligence officials, and even private citizens have been 856 01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:19,870 and made to look crazy. 857 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,520 to the point where people have lost their jobs, they've lost their ability 858 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,620 provide for their families, they've lost their security clearances. 859 01:01:26,020 --> 01:01:31,100 These people had their lives ruined simply because they spoke the truth 860 01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:33,180 what they learned or what they saw. 861 01:01:33,380 --> 01:01:38,680 People that come forward with this, I feel like they've taken their life in 862 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:39,439 their own hands. 863 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,860 People say, well, government can't keep a secret. Well, there are a number of 864 01:01:42,860 --> 01:01:45,220 programs I've been involved in that have never. 865 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:50,640 gotten revealed. The truth of the matter is people and programs can be kept 866 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,160 secret. Usually it's just out of personal wanting to protect oneself. 867 01:01:54,560 --> 01:02:00,160 This is the most successful disinformation campaign in the history 868 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:05,280 government. The irony in this is that the deception campaign to create stigma 869 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:11,520 was so successful, it actually inadvertently created a new unforeseen 870 01:02:11,700 --> 01:02:17,550 Stigma has been a tremendous problem that is actually a national security 871 01:02:17,550 --> 01:02:23,230 to the United States. Other countries are not suffering from the stigma that 872 01:02:23,230 --> 01:02:28,670 are. So we are already, as Americans, at a disadvantage. 873 01:02:29,210 --> 01:02:35,850 How can we expect to maintain a strategic advantage when 99 .999 % of 874 01:02:35,850 --> 01:02:39,630 scientists here in this country don't even think it's real. Science moves 875 01:02:39,630 --> 01:02:44,010 forward on the basis of exchanging information, and when it's all tied up 876 01:02:44,010 --> 01:02:47,230 held down, you just can't make progress. 877 01:02:47,610 --> 01:02:52,810 You had information being locked away that, frankly, could improve the lives 878 01:02:52,810 --> 01:02:57,730 every human being on this planet and change the trajectory for species. 879 01:02:59,590 --> 01:03:04,430 This information was and is still being locked down by the Legacy Crash 880 01:03:04,430 --> 01:03:05,430 Retrieval Program. 881 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,340 Too much information resides in different stovepipes. 882 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,780 It's controlled by different baronies and different fiefdoms spread throughout 883 01:03:13,780 --> 01:03:15,100 the national security kingdom. 884 01:03:15,300 --> 01:03:17,460 They each view information as power. 885 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,620 They're each reluctant to share information. They hoard it. They like to 886 01:03:21,620 --> 01:03:22,620 it like a currency. 887 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:29,560 All of these things conspire to prevent us from getting the big picture and 888 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:30,940 bringing the information together. 889 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:42,340 any or maybe just a tiny number of uh reports of uap notwithstanding 890 01:03:42,340 --> 01:03:46,540 the fact that the air force controls the north american aerospace defense 891 01:03:46,540 --> 01:03:52,340 command they're responsible for space surveillance they have aircraft with 892 01:03:52,340 --> 01:03:57,640 superior radar systems operating in the same training ranges where the navy is 893 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:02,790 seeing and reporting these aircraft and yet They claim they don't have evidence 894 01:04:02,790 --> 01:04:03,569 of this. 895 01:04:03,570 --> 01:04:08,070 Imagine we had a situation where we're saying there are unidentified submarines 896 01:04:08,070 --> 01:04:13,110 off the coast of the United States, and the only reports we got were from the 897 01:04:13,110 --> 01:04:15,070 Air Force, and the Navy had nothing to say about it. 898 01:04:16,590 --> 01:04:22,130 During the George W. Bush administration, the president routinely 899 01:04:22,130 --> 01:04:28,070 his ranch in Stevensville, Texas, and I see reporting of UAP activity over the 900 01:04:28,070 --> 01:04:29,070 ranch. 901 01:04:29,570 --> 01:04:34,510 F -16s from a nearby Air Force base were alerted to intercept this object. 902 01:04:34,610 --> 01:04:35,950 People on the ground thought. 903 01:04:36,510 --> 01:04:41,910 So I go down and I start asking questions. Hey, what did you chase? I'm 904 01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:45,370 on behalf of the U .S. government and we're trying to understand what you saw. 905 01:04:45,850 --> 01:04:49,390 And they looked me in the eyes and said, Jay, we cannot tell you what we saw 906 01:04:49,390 --> 01:04:54,570 because the OSI, Air Force Office of Special Investigations, came in here, 907 01:04:54,570 --> 01:04:55,870 us sign nondisclosure agreements. 908 01:04:56,130 --> 01:04:59,110 We did see something. We did scramble on something, but we can't talk to you 909 01:04:59,110 --> 01:04:59,928 about it. 910 01:04:59,930 --> 01:05:04,810 Historically, every time a military member had a UAP encounter, it was very 911 01:05:04,810 --> 01:05:08,510 quickly swept under the rug and they were discouraged from talking about it. 912 01:05:08,610 --> 01:05:11,350 They put a form down. It was a nondisclosure form. 913 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,200 He came storming across to me and said, don't you ever say that again. You're 914 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,840 never going to speak of this. And I made it very clear that it's something we 915 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:22,900 shouldn't be talking about and just keep our mouth shut. There was a culture of 916 01:05:22,900 --> 01:05:27,180 silence. I didn't talk to anybody about it, not my wife, not my colleagues, not 917 01:05:27,180 --> 01:05:31,760 people I knew. I just shut up. There's ramifications if you were to divulge any 918 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:32,980 of this information to anyone. 919 01:05:36,660 --> 01:05:39,340 We received an alarm at our closest missile site. 920 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:47,780 There was an object directly above that ICBM nuclear missile, right on top of 921 01:05:47,780 --> 01:05:48,780 the blast door. 922 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:54,980 No noise, no sound whatsoever, and it looked like a mini sun sitting in the 923 01:05:55,380 --> 01:05:57,660 It was the size of a super Walmart building. 924 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:02,540 Not just a Walmart, I mean a super Walmart. This thing was gargantuan. And 925 01:06:02,540 --> 01:06:06,820 it could suspend itself was just completely unnatural to what we know of 926 01:06:06,820 --> 01:06:08,480 anything that can fly or hover. 927 01:06:13,100 --> 01:06:19,880 The captain was looking, just looking up with his mouth open, and I look up and 928 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,820 I see this object right over the missile launch tube. 929 01:06:27,140 --> 01:06:31,340 Multifaceted, matte black finish, an oddly shaped diamond. 930 01:06:32,420 --> 01:06:35,620 Absolutely silent, made no noise. There was no means of propulsion. 931 01:06:35,940 --> 01:06:39,420 Fifty feet up in the air, sitting absolutely still. 932 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,360 And it was amazing. 933 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,900 We kind of looked at one another and we're just human beings witnessing 934 01:06:46,900 --> 01:06:53,280 something extraordinary. And while we're watching this thing, it went from dead 935 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,560 still and it shot off toward the horizon and was gone. 936 01:06:58,060 --> 01:07:00,180 Absolutely instant acceleration. 937 01:07:07,690 --> 01:07:14,390 We had 60 cameras so that the engineers at Boeing and Douglas could see every 938 01:07:14,390 --> 01:07:16,830 millisecond of the ignition. 939 01:07:18,010 --> 01:07:23,470 The missile in question that we photographed was an Atlas D carrying, as 940 01:07:23,470 --> 01:07:26,110 an experiment, a dummy nuclear warhead. 941 01:07:26,490 --> 01:07:30,810 As it was flying along, the warhead, the shaft, something else entered the 942 01:07:30,810 --> 01:07:36,610 frame. It sent a beam of light and hit the warhead, flew up like this. 943 01:07:36,990 --> 01:07:40,090 Shot another beam of light down at the warhead. Went like this, shot another 944 01:07:40,090 --> 01:07:41,290 beam of light at the warhead. 945 01:07:41,530 --> 01:07:44,770 Went under here, shot a beam of light at the warhead, and then flew out the way 946 01:07:44,770 --> 01:07:45,709 to come in. 947 01:07:45,710 --> 01:07:49,070 All the while, everything in our frame was moving along at 8 ,000 to 9 ,000 948 01:07:49,070 --> 01:07:49,968 miles an hour. 949 01:07:49,970 --> 01:07:51,890 There's nothing in there for us that could have done that. 950 01:07:52,550 --> 01:07:53,590 Could have done that. 951 01:08:00,630 --> 01:08:04,930 There was this red -orange light hovering above the front gate. 952 01:08:05,470 --> 01:08:08,890 It was about 40 feet in diameter, sort of oval shape. 953 01:08:11,830 --> 01:08:17,069 And each missile was announcing guidance and control system failure. Our 954 01:08:17,069 --> 01:08:22,130 missiles were starting to go down, so we had all 10 of them go down. 955 01:08:22,630 --> 01:08:29,149 Within the span of eight days, we lost 20 nuclear missiles to UFOs. 956 01:08:33,330 --> 01:08:34,649 Vandenberg is home to... 957 01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:39,000 the infrastructure that supports our national missile defense project, the 958 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,760 system that defends our country from incoming ballistic missiles and nuclear 959 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,560 weapons. So it's one of the most important bases we have. 960 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:51,319 On October 14, 2003, I showed up to work at Vandenberg Air Force Base, and 961 01:08:51,319 --> 01:08:55,700 immediately everybody just started to tell me about this UFO incident that had 962 01:08:55,700 --> 01:09:00,460 happened earlier that morning. I reported for work at Vandenberg Air 963 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,939 We were given a briefing earlier in the day, some Boeing contractors. 964 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:09,560 had witnessed a UAP incursion. Three Boeing contractors had called in and 965 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:16,080 reported that a gigantic red square object was floating over the launch pad 966 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,240 low altitude. It was making no noise. 967 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:23,000 It had no obvious signs of propulsion, and it was just hovering silently. 968 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,800 It was a very serious security breach of the area. 969 01:09:26,100 --> 01:09:28,520 And we were told just to be vigilant when we were out on our shift that 970 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:33,140 And I spent most of the day driving around the base looking for these 971 01:09:33,740 --> 01:09:37,399 Later that night, myself and five security forces members, we observed a 972 01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:41,220 light approaching the base. As it got closer, the light was no longer visible, 973 01:09:41,300 --> 01:09:46,460 and it was massive, the size of a football field, almost rectangular in 974 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,000 It was just floating there, no propulsion system, no windows. 975 01:09:50,779 --> 01:09:51,899 It was matte black. 976 01:09:52,819 --> 01:09:56,200 We observed it for another 45 seconds, and then it shot off. 977 01:09:56,620 --> 01:09:58,300 thousands of miles an hour up the coast. 978 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:03,260 I talked to all the direct witnesses, over a dozen people, and even from their 979 01:10:03,260 --> 01:10:08,060 different vantage points, they all told the same story. They all saw the same 980 01:10:08,060 --> 01:10:13,180 thing. The UAP activity surrounding nuclear weapons is not a historic issue. 981 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:14,620 It's an ongoing issue. 982 01:10:16,060 --> 01:10:21,400 Despite the long -standing denial by the United States Air Force, we now have... 983 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:26,600 Both former and current very senior Air Force officials stating for the record 984 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:31,940 that in fact the Air Force has had a long -standing involvement in UAP. 985 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:36,960 I served in the Air Force for about 32 years. 986 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:41,340 And my last job in the Air Force was Chief of Air Force Intelligence prior to 987 01:10:41,340 --> 01:10:43,600 becoming Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. 988 01:10:43,980 --> 01:10:50,900 When I served in the Air Force, there was an active program to track. 989 01:10:52,110 --> 01:10:58,430 anomalous activities that we couldn't otherwise explain. Many of them 990 01:10:58,430 --> 01:11:03,390 with ranges out west, notably Area 51. 991 01:11:07,310 --> 01:11:12,270 As Congress learned more about the legacy program, they realized how 992 01:11:12,270 --> 01:11:15,210 and influential the defense contractors have become. 993 01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:20,130 As we look at the actual structure, 994 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:26,220 of the interaction between the government and private industry in this 995 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:32,820 Over the years, it has morphed, transitioned into it being largely in 996 01:11:32,820 --> 01:11:33,820 of the contractors. 997 01:11:34,180 --> 01:11:38,420 If you do something within the government, eventually it can be 998 01:11:38,420 --> 01:11:42,700 Freedom of Information Act. But if you do something through contractors, 999 01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:47,580 not. available through Freedom of Information Act. I had been involved 1000 01:11:47,580 --> 01:11:54,240 projects where we made sure that the material was under contractor labels so 1001 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,300 that it couldn't be accessed easily by the public. 1002 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:02,500 But what happens with government, you need continuity. People move, people 1003 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:03,499 people retire. 1004 01:12:03,500 --> 01:12:07,100 And so what winds up happening is you have these legacy efforts going on in 1005 01:12:07,100 --> 01:12:11,660 government contractor side involving UAP. And then I, the government official 1006 01:12:11,660 --> 01:12:12,660 charge of this program, leave. 1007 01:12:13,150 --> 01:12:16,350 and someone else takes my place and that person might have a little bit of 1008 01:12:16,350 --> 01:12:19,870 awareness that this project existed but then they're replaced by a third person 1009 01:12:19,870 --> 01:12:24,190 who has no idea the project existed but the corporate entity that received this 1010 01:12:24,190 --> 01:12:28,430 technology is still trying to develop it and so they begin to commercialize that 1011 01:12:28,430 --> 01:12:31,830 some of the stuff begins to seep out and these great innovations that some 1012 01:12:31,830 --> 01:12:35,710 companies coming up with and making money on and they claim it belongs to 1013 01:12:35,710 --> 01:12:39,290 and it's proprietary and the people in government who know where it came from 1014 01:12:39,290 --> 01:12:40,290 originally 1015 01:12:40,430 --> 01:12:43,810 They're long gone, and their successors have no idea that it was there at all. 1016 01:12:44,210 --> 01:12:49,290 And so you can start to foresee where you create in corporate hands an 1017 01:12:49,290 --> 01:12:53,130 extraordinary amount of power. The real risk that in transferring technology 1018 01:12:53,130 --> 01:12:58,030 that is not useful to us today to a corporate entity, over decades that 1019 01:12:58,030 --> 01:13:01,770 corporate entity comes to basically possess and control access to it for 1020 01:13:01,770 --> 01:13:04,230 own purposes, not for the purposes of national security. 1021 01:13:04,650 --> 01:13:07,490 In the councils of government, we must guard against. 1022 01:13:08,030 --> 01:13:12,990 the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, 1023 01:13:12,990 --> 01:13:14,830 military -industrial complex. 1024 01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:21,030 The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will 1025 01:13:21,030 --> 01:13:22,030 persist. 1026 01:13:22,330 --> 01:13:26,910 We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or 1027 01:13:26,910 --> 01:13:27,970 democratic processes. 1028 01:13:28,620 --> 01:13:32,920 The reason why our democracy is so strong, because it's of the people and 1029 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:36,860 people and for the people. It's not acceptable to have secret parts of 1030 01:13:36,860 --> 01:13:40,780 government that no one ever sees. It would be unconscionable. It's against 1031 01:13:40,780 --> 01:13:42,620 Constitution, and it's wrong. 1032 01:13:42,860 --> 01:13:47,900 Non -human intelligence is not government information, and the 1033 01:13:47,900 --> 01:13:49,900 not be keeping that knowledge from the people. 1034 01:13:54,090 --> 01:13:59,130 Before he passed away, I had the privilege of seeing Senator Harry Reid 1035 01:13:59,130 --> 01:14:00,890 few times in his private residence. 1036 01:14:01,710 --> 01:14:07,530 He explained to me that he was once provided information on the legacy 1037 01:14:07,710 --> 01:14:13,150 but denied access. He was incensed by that. And when the opportunity came to 1038 01:14:13,150 --> 01:14:19,050 sponsor AATIP, he jumped at the opportunity in order to ensure that 1039 01:14:19,050 --> 01:14:21,550 the government had visibility into this topic. 1040 01:14:21,950 --> 01:14:27,570 And frankly, we wouldn't be where we are today if it wasn't for the courage of 1041 01:14:27,570 --> 01:14:32,070 Senator Harry Reid. Why the federal government all these years has covered 1042 01:14:32,170 --> 01:14:36,370 put brake pads on everything, stopped it. 1043 01:14:36,750 --> 01:14:42,030 I think it's very, very bad for our country. Shouldn't we study this stuff? 1044 01:14:42,650 --> 01:14:43,950 The answer is yes. 1045 01:14:44,230 --> 01:14:46,210 And that's all this was about. 1046 01:14:50,990 --> 01:14:55,030 For decades, our government assumed there must be different exotic 1047 01:14:55,030 --> 01:14:56,950 responsible for each of the observables. 1048 01:14:57,370 --> 01:15:02,670 But our scientists realized one breakthrough technology could actually 1049 01:15:02,670 --> 01:15:04,690 responsible for everything. 1050 01:15:07,350 --> 01:15:12,170 With enough energy, you could create a bubble, a warp bubble, around a 1051 01:15:12,170 --> 01:15:16,190 spacecraft that would have a different property of space -time inside the 1052 01:15:16,190 --> 01:15:17,510 than on the outside of the bubble. 1053 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:23,480 This energy field would completely isolate the craft from the environment. 1054 01:15:25,940 --> 01:15:30,540 So you might ask then, how does the craft actually move forward within its 1055 01:15:30,540 --> 01:15:35,660 bubble? The craft inside the bubble has a way of altering the bubble's 1056 01:15:35,660 --> 01:15:39,380 properties in order to change its direction of motion. 1057 01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:45,480 Such that you have a downward press in front and an upward press behind. 1058 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,980 So it'd be like riding space -time in the same way that a surfer would ride a 1059 01:15:50,980 --> 01:15:51,980 wave in the ocean. 1060 01:15:54,340 --> 01:15:58,660 And we observe hypersonic velocity and instantaneous acceleration. 1061 01:15:59,060 --> 01:16:03,000 And the reason is that time is moving differently for people inside the bubble 1062 01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:07,180 versus people outside the bubble. Whoever's inside the craft would feel 1063 01:16:07,180 --> 01:16:10,580 they're just cruising along. They wouldn't be feeling the effects of what 1064 01:16:10,580 --> 01:16:14,120 like speeds and accelerations that would turn a human being into pudding. 1065 01:16:16,590 --> 01:16:20,710 This one breakthrough can be the key to interstellar travel, where you want to 1066 01:16:20,710 --> 01:16:25,350 travel long distances without taking enormous amounts of subjective time. 1067 01:16:25,870 --> 01:16:30,670 We'd also have low observability because the bubble acts as a barrier between 1068 01:16:30,670 --> 01:16:31,950 two space -time environments. 1069 01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:36,100 This would eliminate or conceal most of the known signatures of conventional 1070 01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:40,340 technology. This is why radar would have difficulty tracking a craft, because 1071 01:16:40,340 --> 01:16:45,380 the signal from the radar would be distorted by the energy field around the 1072 01:16:45,380 --> 01:16:50,240 craft. The radar signatures literally just move around the bubble and doesn't 1073 01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:54,820 reflect back to the radar emitter. So it's not surprising when someone takes a 1074 01:16:54,820 --> 01:16:59,920 photo of a UAP, they finally get a... fuzzy and distorted picture because 1075 01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:02,920 they're actually taking a photo through a space -time barrier. 1076 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:11,000 What's been happening recently is that we have upgraded our sensor systems on 1077 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:12,180 our fighter aircraft. 1078 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:17,300 And these images that are now picked up with our advanced sensor systems, we can 1079 01:17:17,300 --> 01:17:22,000 begin to see the actual structure of the energy field around the craft, which in 1080 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:23,640 the past they would not have been able to do. 1081 01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:30,800 We also observe transmedium travel because the craft is moving within its 1082 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:35,580 space -time and the outside environment through which it's moving is 1083 01:17:35,580 --> 01:17:41,600 inconsequential. This would allow a craft to go seamlessly from space 1084 01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,360 the atmosphere and into the water. 1085 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:48,920 And they could do so because the warp bubble that surrounds them shunts air 1086 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:53,960 molecules or ocean water molecules around the craft so that it could move 1087 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:55,740 effortlessly through any medium. 1088 01:17:57,900 --> 01:18:02,440 We also observe anti -gravity because the Earth's gravitational field is no 1089 01:18:02,440 --> 01:18:06,400 longer having any effect on the craft inside its space -time bubble. 1090 01:18:07,460 --> 01:18:11,880 This is why a craft does not need, say, engines or wings or... 1091 01:18:12,090 --> 01:18:15,830 other aspects that we would associate it with a craft that needs to fly in the 1092 01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:18,810 atmosphere. It's really disconnected from the atmosphere. 1093 01:18:21,030 --> 01:18:25,810 And the energy field associated with these craft causes a highly energetic 1094 01:18:25,810 --> 01:18:30,270 of radiation, which is why people getting too close to UAP can experience 1095 01:18:30,270 --> 01:18:32,390 biological effects that are harmful to humans. 1096 01:18:34,750 --> 01:18:38,330 Now that we understand that these craft exist in... 1097 01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:43,060 a space -time environment that's different from the exterior space -time 1098 01:18:43,060 --> 01:18:47,820 environment. This can begin to explain claimed observations by, say, military 1099 01:18:47,820 --> 01:18:53,180 people who have approached and gotten into a craft and find that time is 1100 01:18:53,180 --> 01:18:57,200 at a different rate inside the craft than time running outside the craft. 1101 01:18:57,740 --> 01:19:01,960 They think they're only there for a few minutes, and they come outside the 1102 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:06,200 craft. Some hours have gone by, so they feel like they've got missing time. 1103 01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:13,060 Or similarly, with respect to the size of the craft, if someone is outside the 1104 01:19:13,060 --> 01:19:18,880 craft and looks like a small craft, and they go inside, it's the size of a 1105 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:25,220 football stadium. Once you've realized that space and time are being engineered 1106 01:19:25,220 --> 01:19:30,830 to be different, inside the craft than they are outside the craft, then these 1107 01:19:30,830 --> 01:19:35,190 anomalies that people report that sound completely absurd can actually make 1108 01:19:35,190 --> 01:19:36,190 sense. 1109 01:19:41,290 --> 01:19:45,510 The top issue is what is their energy supply? 1110 01:19:46,380 --> 01:19:52,140 because the evidence for how much energy they're using per unit time so exceeds 1111 01:19:52,140 --> 01:19:54,980 any kind of power levels that we can generate. 1112 01:19:55,220 --> 01:20:00,460 UAPs have exhibited propulsive performance characteristics that imply 1113 01:20:00,460 --> 01:20:06,360 generation of 1 ,100 billion watts of power. This is more than 100 times the 1114 01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:11,640 daily electrical utility power generated in the U .S. Let that sink in. 1115 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:13,680 100 times. 1116 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,640 the daily power generation of the entire nation. 1117 01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:27,080 There are two prevailing hypotheses for how UAPs create the energy that warps 1118 01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:33,260 space -time around them. And one is that the spacecraft can produce its own 1119 01:20:33,260 --> 01:20:38,520 bubble of vacuum energy around the craft, which is also known as zero 1120 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:43,300 energy. And the other one is that The craft could be using quantum 1121 01:20:43,300 --> 01:20:46,280 to draw on a remote distance source of energy. 1122 01:20:49,300 --> 01:20:55,440 If we can understand the technology that we're observing, it has so many 1123 01:20:55,440 --> 01:21:01,780 potentially beneficial impacts, including clean energy. 1124 01:21:02,020 --> 01:21:07,600 We're seeing these craft doing unbelievable things, and it's not 1125 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:08,600 engineering. 1126 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:16,620 This is technology that could replace oil, gas, and coal, and protect our 1127 01:21:16,620 --> 01:21:18,200 planet for future generations. 1128 01:21:19,980 --> 01:21:23,480 How can we use these technologies and all the capabilities that might come 1129 01:21:23,480 --> 01:21:28,500 it, not to fight a war, but to increase our standard of living, to increase our 1130 01:21:28,500 --> 01:21:33,440 ability to get from place to place? We can talk more about teleportation. We 1131 01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:38,700 could talk more about hypersonic travel. Being able to take human beings to the 1132 01:21:38,700 --> 01:21:42,920 next evolutionary step, which is the stars. Being able to explore new star 1133 01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:43,920 systems and planets. 1134 01:21:46,060 --> 01:21:51,800 On the other hand, you'd have to weigh the consequences of sharing with the 1135 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,540 world, knowing that there are bad actors out there. If our adversaries would 1136 01:21:55,540 --> 01:21:59,980 have access to that same technology, they could flip that into some very, 1137 01:21:59,980 --> 01:22:01,820 powerful weapons of mass destruction. 1138 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:06,760 You could put a nuclear bomb inside one of these things and let it fly, ride it 1139 01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:10,540 through a building, through concrete, through steel, wherever you want it, 1140 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:14,580 anywhere in the world. We want to talk about it publicly and encourage folks to 1141 01:22:14,580 --> 01:22:15,580 talk about it. 1142 01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,740 While we're talking about it publicly, our adversaries are paying attention to 1143 01:22:19,740 --> 01:22:24,340 context clues, to piece things together about possible technologies that we may 1144 01:22:24,340 --> 01:22:27,500 have that they don't have access to. So it's a fine line. 1145 01:22:27,780 --> 01:22:33,000 I would opt for making any new energy source a humanitarian 1146 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:37,420 issue, that it should be open. 1147 01:22:37,820 --> 01:22:42,240 And we know how to do that. We've done that with nuclear power. If the 1148 01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,760 capabilities that exist... 1149 01:22:45,390 --> 01:22:51,010 come to the forefront and they become known to the world, it might very well 1150 01:22:51,010 --> 01:22:53,430 that it is to the benefit of mankind. 1151 01:23:00,350 --> 01:23:05,050 While Congress had learned a great deal about the legacy program, whistleblowers 1152 01:23:05,050 --> 01:23:09,710 were still afraid to reveal the most secretive details about the UAP 1153 01:23:09,710 --> 01:23:12,910 and non -human bodies in the program's possession. 1154 01:23:14,700 --> 01:23:20,560 We've been interviewing folks that would have had evidence of or first -hand 1155 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:25,560 direct contact with either materials or a program itself. 1156 01:23:25,940 --> 01:23:31,080 They have worked on craft, out -of -this -world origin. 1157 01:23:31,480 --> 01:23:38,360 But until they leak a video before they commit suicide 1158 01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:42,460 by shooting themselves in the back of the head four times, I just don't know 1159 01:23:42,460 --> 01:23:44,260 that that's going to get out. 1160 01:23:44,510 --> 01:23:49,910 Those people whose job it is to make sure information doesn't get out will 1161 01:23:49,910 --> 01:23:54,710 whatever tool they can find to try to convince people they shouldn't come 1162 01:23:54,710 --> 01:23:58,350 forward. We have people that have very high clearances, both today and in the 1163 01:23:58,350 --> 01:24:01,450 past, who did really important work for our government or continue to do 1164 01:24:01,450 --> 01:24:04,570 important work for the government, who have come forward with some claims about 1165 01:24:04,570 --> 01:24:08,570 the U .S. having in the past recovered exotic materials and then reverse 1166 01:24:08,570 --> 01:24:12,970 engineered those materials to make advances in our own defenses and 1167 01:24:13,170 --> 01:24:15,410 And that they signed agreements that... 1168 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,140 They would face jail time or, in some cases, some people claim it would cost 1169 01:24:19,140 --> 01:24:22,160 them their lives if they spoke out about these things. When I have a 1170 01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:25,500 whistleblower coming forward telling me that they are in fear of their life and 1171 01:24:25,500 --> 01:24:30,000 that people have been hurt protecting and hiding this information, that gives 1172 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,000 reason for concern. 1173 01:24:32,780 --> 01:24:36,840 Determined to get to the truth, it was Chris Mellon who led the charge to help 1174 01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:40,040 Congress draft unprecedented UAP whistleblower protections. 1175 01:24:42,890 --> 01:24:47,430 And in December of 2022, President Biden signed the legislation into law. 1176 01:24:48,410 --> 01:24:53,590 So even for those who signed NDAs, they still have a right and an opportunity to 1177 01:24:53,590 --> 01:24:57,350 talk about this in a very healthy and productive way that informs the American 1178 01:24:57,350 --> 01:24:58,350 public. 1179 01:25:01,930 --> 01:25:07,710 Bombshell claims from a military whistleblower. UFO wreckage recovered by 1180 01:25:07,710 --> 01:25:12,090 .S. kept classified by a secret government program for decades. 1181 01:25:12,650 --> 01:25:18,070 The UAP task force has refused access to a broad crash retrieval program. 1182 01:25:18,670 --> 01:25:24,010 Retrieving non -human origin technical vehicles, you know, call it spacecraft 1183 01:25:24,010 --> 01:25:29,030 you will, non -human, exotic origin vehicles that have either landed or 1184 01:25:29,350 --> 01:25:32,190 I handpicked Dave Rush to be part of my UAP task force. 1185 01:25:32,510 --> 01:25:36,550 Everything that Dave uncovered is true, but it barely scratches the surface. 1186 01:25:36,810 --> 01:25:41,650 There's a sophisticated disinformation campaign targeting the U .S. populace, 1187 01:25:41,650 --> 01:25:47,050 which is extremely unethical and immoral. Have people been killed to 1188 01:25:47,050 --> 01:25:50,450 secret? That was an ongoing concern. 1189 01:25:59,310 --> 01:26:06,230 Dave has been working tirelessly behind the scenes with Congress as well. And 1190 01:26:06,230 --> 01:26:08,930 we were really poking the bear. We were making a lot of progress. We were 1191 01:26:08,930 --> 01:26:10,710 getting a lot of information to Congress. 1192 01:26:12,020 --> 01:26:18,980 And it wasn't necessarily symbiotic with the legacy program and their desires. 1193 01:26:19,420 --> 01:26:24,920 I remember one evening I was sitting with my wife on the front porch, 1194 01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,580 and I received a call. 1195 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:32,860 I recognized the voice of a friend of mine, and he happened to be one of the 1196 01:26:32,860 --> 01:26:34,100 staffers on the Hill. 1197 01:26:34,700 --> 01:26:38,520 And he was very shooken up and said, listen, we had a very interesting 1198 01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:39,520 on the Hill. 1199 01:26:41,260 --> 01:26:45,040 extremely senior person in the U .S. government, in the intelligence 1200 01:26:45,260 --> 01:26:51,280 told Congress, for the record, that there was a committee of 27 individuals, 1201 01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:56,500 I'm not going to go into code names here, that were mulling over the idea of 1202 01:26:56,500 --> 01:26:59,400 using extreme measures to silence David and myself. 1203 01:27:01,060 --> 01:27:02,060 Kill us. 1204 01:27:02,780 --> 01:27:04,400 Now, people say, oh, come on, that's a conspiracy. 1205 01:27:05,700 --> 01:27:06,700 No, it's not. 1206 01:27:09,060 --> 01:27:10,220 We have done it before. 1207 01:27:10,980 --> 01:27:15,020 Under certain circumstances, we have killed Americans without due process. 1208 01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:20,800 If they are a clear and present national security threat, we can kill Americans. 1209 01:27:21,460 --> 01:27:23,960 Now, it's not done very often, but we can. 1210 01:27:24,300 --> 01:27:26,920 Without a fair trial, they just disappear, right? 1211 01:27:28,460 --> 01:27:29,460 So here I am. 1212 01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:35,120 If I wind up in a month from now floating in the Potomac somewhere, you 1213 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:36,120 what happened. 1214 01:27:37,060 --> 01:27:38,580 You know what happened. This is the truth. 1215 01:27:42,250 --> 01:27:43,250 What else you want to know? 1216 01:27:51,130 --> 01:27:55,470 Last year, the House Intelligence Committee held a hearing on UAPs. They 1217 01:27:55,470 --> 01:27:59,390 in some Pentagon bureaucrats who only had two answers to the questions they 1218 01:27:59,390 --> 01:28:01,890 asked. I don't know, or that's classified. 1219 01:28:02,370 --> 01:28:06,570 This hearing is going to be different. This time, we had credible witnesses 1220 01:28:06,570 --> 01:28:10,430 testifying before Congress and American people under oath. 1221 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:15,820 This was a tremendously proud moment for my colleagues and myself to watch the 1222 01:28:15,820 --> 01:28:20,860 fire that we started continue to grow. The subcommittee hearing on unidentified 1223 01:28:20,860 --> 01:28:24,540 anomalous phenomena, or UAPs, will come to order. 1224 01:28:24,860 --> 01:28:27,520 The reality is the American public deserves to know. 1225 01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,620 And you better be careful about a government that doesn't trust its 1226 01:28:31,740 --> 01:28:35,040 because there's no telling what they'll pull on you. It's really important that 1227 01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:36,300 we're hearing it in a bipartisan way. 1228 01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,680 to have this conversation, which really, to the heart of it, is about national 1229 01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:45,300 security. The American public has a right to learn about technologies of 1230 01:28:45,300 --> 01:28:49,380 origin, non -human intelligence, and unexplainable phenomena. 1231 01:28:50,420 --> 01:28:54,520 You solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the 1232 01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,340 truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help you God. 1233 01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:58,600 Yes, sir. 1234 01:28:59,340 --> 01:29:02,400 I was informed in the course of my official duties. 1235 01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:08,120 of a multi -decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program. 1236 01:29:08,440 --> 01:29:13,340 I am hopeful that my actions will ultimately lead to a positive outcome of 1237 01:29:13,340 --> 01:29:14,400 increased transparency. 1238 01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:19,120 We were primarily seeing dark gray or black cubes inside of a clear sphere 1239 01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,320 the apex or tips of the cube were touching the inside of that sphere. 1240 01:29:22,580 --> 01:29:26,360 Since the events initially occurred, I've learned that the objects have been 1241 01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:30,860 detected essentially where all operations, Navy operations are being 1242 01:29:30,860 --> 01:29:31,860 across the world. 1243 01:29:32,030 --> 01:29:35,210 These objects had been observed for over two weeks, coming down from over 80 1244 01:29:35,210 --> 01:29:39,910 ,000 feet, rapidly descending to 20 ,000 feet, hanging out for hours, and then 1245 01:29:39,910 --> 01:29:43,890 going straight back up. It wasn't until 2009 until Jay Stratton had contacted me 1246 01:29:43,890 --> 01:29:44,890 to investigate. 1247 01:29:45,310 --> 01:29:48,270 Unbeknownst to all, he was part of the ATIC program and the Pentagon. 1248 01:29:48,490 --> 01:29:51,190 Are you aware of any individuals that are participating in reverse engineering 1249 01:29:51,190 --> 01:29:53,070 programs for non -terrestrial craft? 1250 01:29:53,410 --> 01:29:54,409 Personally, yes. 1251 01:29:54,410 --> 01:29:57,930 Do you believe that our government is in possession of UAPs? I know the exact 1252 01:29:57,930 --> 01:30:01,170 locations. I actually had the people with the firsthand knowledge. 1253 01:30:02,290 --> 01:30:05,850 provide a protected disclosure to the inspector general. Do we have the bodies 1254 01:30:05,850 --> 01:30:07,790 of the pilots who piloted this craft? 1255 01:30:08,570 --> 01:30:12,530 Biologics came with some of these recoveries, yeah. Non -human biologics. 1256 01:30:13,470 --> 01:30:17,430 Non -human. I was wondering if you could speak a little bit about the 1257 01:30:17,430 --> 01:30:22,230 interaction between defense contractor companies and any UAP -related programs 1258 01:30:22,230 --> 01:30:23,068 or activities. 1259 01:30:23,070 --> 01:30:26,050 The contractors, you know, are the metal benders, so to speak. They're the ones 1260 01:30:26,050 --> 01:30:29,900 actually... doing specific performance on government contracts. 1261 01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:31,780 How does a program like that get funded? 1262 01:30:32,480 --> 01:30:33,480 Misappropriation of funds. 1263 01:30:33,660 --> 01:30:36,960 Does that mean that there is money in the budget that is said to go to a 1264 01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,700 program, but it doesn't, and it goes to something else? Yes, I have specific 1265 01:30:39,700 --> 01:30:40,700 knowledge of that. Mr. 1266 01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:45,960 Graves and Fravor, in the event that your encounters have become hostile, 1267 01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,860 you have had the capability to defend yourself? 1268 01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:50,280 Absolutely not, sir. 1269 01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:51,560 No. 1270 01:30:52,090 --> 01:30:56,230 What we experienced was well beyond the material science and the capabilities 1271 01:30:56,230 --> 01:30:59,370 that we had at the time that we have currently or that we're going to have in 1272 01:30:59,370 --> 01:31:02,930 the next 10 to 20 years. We have nothing that can stop in midair and go the 1273 01:31:02,930 --> 01:31:06,550 other direction, nor do we have anything that can, like in our situation, come 1274 01:31:06,550 --> 01:31:10,450 down from space, hang out for three hours, and go back up. Is it possible 1275 01:31:10,450 --> 01:31:13,310 these UAPs would be probing our capabilities? Yes. 1276 01:31:14,890 --> 01:31:15,990 Yes, definitely. 1277 01:31:16,310 --> 01:31:19,130 Do you have any personal knowledge of people who have been harmed or injured? 1278 01:31:19,740 --> 01:31:23,020 In efforts to cover up or conceal these extraterrestrial technology? 1279 01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:24,680 Yes. 1280 01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:27,640 Personally. 1281 01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:34,300 Anyone been murdered that you know of? I have to be careful. I directed people 1282 01:31:34,300 --> 01:31:36,000 with that knowledge to the appropriate authorities. 1283 01:31:36,380 --> 01:31:41,180 There clearly is a threat to the national security of the United States 1284 01:31:41,180 --> 01:31:45,540 America. Brave witnesses here. They took an oath to uphold the Constitution of 1285 01:31:45,540 --> 01:31:47,320 the United States, and they're doing it. 1286 01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,260 And we owe them a debt of gratitude. 1287 01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:58,620 On Capitol Hill today, a bipartisan call for more government transparency on 1288 01:31:58,620 --> 01:31:59,620 UFOs. 1289 01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:04,900 One was asked about alien bodies. Two others talked about seeing UAPs. 1290 01:32:05,500 --> 01:32:11,140 The U .S. government operates a UFO crash retrieval program and has a UFO 1291 01:32:11,140 --> 01:32:15,680 the remains of, quote, a non -human or non -human pilot in it. 1292 01:32:16,460 --> 01:32:22,060 And when Dave Grush said the word non -human biologics, there was an audible 1293 01:32:22,060 --> 01:32:26,700 gasp. I worked with David Grush when we both contributed to the UAP task force. 1294 01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:31,600 And everything he said under oath to the Congress and what he put down in his 1295 01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,080 whistleblower complaint is 100 percent true. 1296 01:32:34,490 --> 01:32:38,930 A Pentagon report is detailing a dramatic increase in UFO sightings. The 1297 01:32:38,930 --> 01:32:43,890 Pentagon released its report on UFO sightings today, saying an additional 1298 01:32:43,890 --> 01:32:46,670 sightings have been investigated since 2021. 1299 01:32:47,310 --> 01:32:51,410 Now the Defense Department is admitting not just a couple of incidents, hundreds 1300 01:32:51,410 --> 01:32:55,730 of incidents, scores of incidents with multiple sensor systems, multiple 1301 01:32:55,730 --> 01:33:02,210 witnesses. A NASA task force is holding its first meeting on UFOs. NASA 1302 01:33:02,210 --> 01:33:08,170 commissioned an independent study team to examine unidentified anomalous 1303 01:33:08,170 --> 01:33:14,370 phenomena. And this is the first time that NASA has taken concrete action to 1304 01:33:14,370 --> 01:33:17,570 seriously look into UAPD. Are we alone? 1305 01:33:18,170 --> 01:33:23,010 Personally, I don't think we are. I wasn't prepared for the number of 1306 01:33:23,010 --> 01:33:29,230 that I see. This emerging capability outstrips the operational framework that 1307 01:33:29,230 --> 01:33:30,230 have to address it. 1308 01:33:38,890 --> 01:33:44,070 Since mankind first started developing atomic energy, there has been consistent 1309 01:33:44,070 --> 01:33:48,810 UAP activity at sites involved with the atomic and nuclear process. 1310 01:33:51,830 --> 01:33:57,550 We have evolved more technically in the last 80 years than we have in the 1311 01:33:57,550 --> 01:33:59,810 previous 200 ,000 years. 1312 01:34:01,650 --> 01:34:06,870 And the uptick in UAP activity has increased in line with our advancement 1313 01:34:06,870 --> 01:34:07,870 harnessing energy. 1314 01:34:10,730 --> 01:34:16,790 We realize we are on the path to exploiting the energy levels needed to 1315 01:34:16,790 --> 01:34:22,330 space -time, and UAP have been observing and clearly been interested in our 1316 01:34:22,330 --> 01:34:23,330 rapid progress. 1317 01:34:23,370 --> 01:34:30,070 Despite developing massively new technologies, we don't see an equivalent 1318 01:34:30,070 --> 01:34:35,150 moral increase in how we deal with each other. 1319 01:34:35,710 --> 01:34:38,530 We are still invading sovereign nations. 1320 01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:43,320 We're still threatening nuclear war 80 years after dropping atomic bombs that 1321 01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:46,080 vaporized hundreds of thousands of human beings. 1322 01:34:47,220 --> 01:34:50,100 Let's face it, we are a violent species. 1323 01:34:51,220 --> 01:34:55,620 So if I were a species from somewhere else... 1324 01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:59,680 even if I were a hidden species on the planet, who saw how we were coming up 1325 01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:06,640 this curve of atomic energy and nuclear energy and then began to realize 1326 01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:12,540 what it takes to do their kind of technologies with warping time and 1327 01:35:12,540 --> 01:35:13,680 space and so on. 1328 01:35:14,300 --> 01:35:18,900 I can imagine that could be seen as a threat to another species because they 1329 01:35:18,900 --> 01:35:22,260 would recognize that, well, it's only a matter of time and they're going to be 1330 01:35:22,260 --> 01:35:24,960 doing what we're doing and then we're going to have to deal with them. So it 1331 01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:30,460 doesn't surprise me that their highest priority would be to identify what 1332 01:35:30,460 --> 01:35:34,960 threats they might face and learn everything about them. This pattern of 1333 01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:36,960 activity seems to me utterly logical. 1334 01:35:37,380 --> 01:35:43,460 It seems to me to be the extension of the evolutionary process that governs 1335 01:35:43,460 --> 01:35:50,310 life. writ large as we know it which is self -preservation is number one when i 1336 01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:56,610 hear stories of either nuclear weapon sites being shut down or turned on what 1337 01:35:56,610 --> 01:35:59,810 that tells me is something quite interesting first off is that something 1338 01:35:59,810 --> 01:36:06,010 technology capable of reaching into our nuclear weapons systems at a distance in 1339 01:36:06,010 --> 01:36:08,310 ways that we don't understand okay that's just 1340 01:36:09,019 --> 01:36:14,280 But if you ask the question about intent, at the very least what it tells 1341 01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:19,640 that they're showing us what they can do to us at will or with us or they can 1342 01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:24,520 stop us. Now, they didn't stop us from blowing something up in Japan. 1343 01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:26,640 They didn't stop the first of the bombs. 1344 01:36:26,860 --> 01:36:32,480 So at some level, they're willing to let us see the consequences of our actions. 1345 01:36:32,900 --> 01:36:35,680 But at another level, they're willing to also show us that. 1346 01:36:36,190 --> 01:36:41,870 You might think that you could hurt us one day, but you can't. We really can 1347 01:36:41,870 --> 01:36:47,830 just reach in and stop you or cause you to blow each other up because at the end 1348 01:36:47,830 --> 01:36:50,270 of the day you're getting in our way and you're really starting to annoy us. 1349 01:36:50,750 --> 01:36:55,730 So even though it has been reported that some of our fighter pilots have chased 1350 01:36:55,730 --> 01:36:59,690 these objects and even fired missiles at them. 1351 01:36:59,930 --> 01:37:04,330 there has not been some kind of strong negative retaliation. So it would be 1352 01:37:04,330 --> 01:37:07,890 pretty easy to come to the conclusion they're friendly and that's fine and 1353 01:37:07,890 --> 01:37:09,490 there's no real threat there. 1354 01:37:10,030 --> 01:37:14,710 But the truth of the matter is you have to take into account, well, under what 1355 01:37:14,710 --> 01:37:16,330 condition that might change. 1356 01:37:16,770 --> 01:37:22,110 For example, if you have ants at the back of your yard, they're not a threat 1357 01:37:22,110 --> 01:37:27,290 you, so that's fine. But if they come and invade your house, suddenly they're 1358 01:37:27,290 --> 01:37:28,290 threat. 1359 01:37:29,470 --> 01:37:33,890 It could be the same in this situation. So at least within the defense and 1360 01:37:33,890 --> 01:37:40,210 intelligence industry, we automatically assume the worst because we want to be 1361 01:37:40,210 --> 01:37:44,870 prepared against the worst if it should happen. There's a concern within the 1362 01:37:44,870 --> 01:37:50,490 defense and intelligence communities that UAPs have been undertaking long 1363 01:37:50,490 --> 01:37:56,970 surveillance of human technological advancement for the possibility that 1364 01:37:56,970 --> 01:37:58,330 may need to intervene. 1365 01:37:59,210 --> 01:38:05,150 to prevent a conflict between us and them. One of the reasons that I am so 1366 01:38:05,150 --> 01:38:10,430 ardent about this issue is because I think it has the potential to change the 1367 01:38:10,430 --> 01:38:15,750 perspective and the outlook of world leaders and the populations of those 1368 01:38:15,750 --> 01:38:21,570 countries to see more of what we have in common and the challenges that we face 1369 01:38:21,570 --> 01:38:24,930 together. If we're going to survive as a species, 1370 01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:30,480 We need unprecedented levels of international collaboration. 1371 01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:37,000 I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish 1372 01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:41,760 if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. 1373 01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:04,880 Thomas Jefferson once said, I'm not an advocate for frequent changes in laws 1374 01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:10,320 constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress 1375 01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:15,020 of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new 1376 01:39:15,020 --> 01:39:19,680 discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions 1377 01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:26,260 With the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep 1378 01:39:26,260 --> 01:39:27,260 with the times. 1379 01:39:28,780 --> 01:39:32,960 Our current Senate leadership feels the same as our founding fathers. 1380 01:39:33,180 --> 01:39:37,860 And throughout the fall of 2023, my colleagues and I met with Senate 1381 01:39:37,860 --> 01:39:42,880 to help give them clarity on the facts as they fought for the most historic UAP 1382 01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:44,880 legislation we've ever had. 1383 01:39:45,860 --> 01:39:51,060 Never in the history of our nation have we ever seen any type of legislation 1384 01:39:51,060 --> 01:39:57,260 regarding UAP that is as detailed and specific and as directive as this one. 1385 01:39:57,610 --> 01:40:01,770 The United States government has gathered a great deal of information 1386 01:40:01,770 --> 01:40:06,550 over many decades but has refused to share it with the American people. That 1387 01:40:06,550 --> 01:40:09,330 wrong, and additionally, it breeds mistrust. 1388 01:40:09,570 --> 01:40:14,830 There is, we believe, information and data that has been collected by more 1389 01:40:14,830 --> 01:40:18,900 just... the Department of Defense, but by other agencies of the federal 1390 01:40:18,900 --> 01:40:23,240 government as well. Information on UAP has also been withheld from Congress, 1391 01:40:23,380 --> 01:40:27,480 which was a violation of the laws requiring full notification to the 1392 01:40:27,480 --> 01:40:32,140 branch. The bill I worked on with Senator Rounds offered a common -sense 1393 01:40:32,140 --> 01:40:33,140 solution. 1394 01:40:33,450 --> 01:40:38,990 The Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act. This would be the most 1395 01:40:38,990 --> 01:40:43,250 aggressive measure that we've frankly ever seen in history when it comes to 1396 01:40:43,250 --> 01:40:48,950 disclosure about what the government knows and has as it relates to UAP. The 1397 01:40:48,950 --> 01:40:53,090 measure would also give the federal government control over all recovered 1398 01:40:53,090 --> 01:40:57,990 technologies of unknown origin and biological evidence of non -human 1399 01:40:57,990 --> 01:41:00,050 intelligence eminent domain. 1400 01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:04,540 allows the U .S. government to take control of anything for national 1401 01:41:04,540 --> 01:41:09,040 reasons or for the betterment of the American people. A requirement as a 1402 01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:15,380 transparency measure for the government to obtain any recovered UAP material or 1403 01:41:15,380 --> 01:41:21,040 biological remains that may have been provided to private entities in the past 1404 01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:26,880 and thereby hidden from Congress and the American people. The eminent domain 1405 01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,260 section was not crafted. 1406 01:41:30,329 --> 01:41:34,670 It was designed to be put in there clearly to lay out our expectations. 1407 01:41:35,650 --> 01:41:40,110 Contractors may have information that they have held or materials that they 1408 01:41:40,110 --> 01:41:42,610 held over an extended period of time. 1409 01:41:42,830 --> 01:41:47,830 And this is our way of addressing it and making it clear that it should be 1410 01:41:47,830 --> 01:41:52,330 delivered in an appropriate fashion and that they need to be negotiating with us 1411 01:41:52,330 --> 01:41:57,270 now. Their bipartisan plan for more transparency is getting some major 1412 01:41:57,310 --> 01:41:58,310 though. 1413 01:41:58,990 --> 01:42:05,890 Defense contractors give money legally to a lot of my colleagues that provide 1414 01:42:05,890 --> 01:42:09,390 a great deal of the pushback on this. There's a lot of money coming from the 1415 01:42:09,390 --> 01:42:13,550 defense industry to support elected officials with their campaigns. And then 1416 01:42:13,550 --> 01:42:16,570 when the time comes for these elected officials to try to get to the bottom of 1417 01:42:16,570 --> 01:42:17,970 things, they're compromised. 1418 01:42:18,310 --> 01:42:21,690 Something with the capabilities of traveling light years, not showing. 1419 01:42:22,170 --> 01:42:27,410 A heat signature and the energy capabilities of that, that would put the 1420 01:42:27,410 --> 01:42:31,530 Pentagon out of business. We wouldn't be fighting these worthless wars overseas 1421 01:42:31,530 --> 01:42:36,050 over oil, and American boys and girls wouldn't be dying. It would put the war 1422 01:42:36,050 --> 01:42:37,050 pigs out of business. 1423 01:42:38,310 --> 01:42:43,130 Unfortunately, there was too much resistance, and the most historic 1424 01:42:43,130 --> 01:42:45,930 the proposed legislation did not become law. 1425 01:42:47,540 --> 01:42:50,940 We've got a big mess on our hands. We've got 80 years of lies and deception 1426 01:42:50,940 --> 01:42:55,500 that, quite frankly, ruined a lot of people's lives. And nobody wants to take 1427 01:42:55,500 --> 01:43:00,340 responsibility for that. This is not an endeavor here to go out and punish 1428 01:43:00,340 --> 01:43:02,780 anyone. But nonetheless, we would need to know what they've learned. 1429 01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:07,200 Taxpayers paid for this. And I think offering amnesty is extremely important. 1430 01:43:07,260 --> 01:43:11,300 Let the past stay the past, then collectively move forward. It's 1431 01:43:11,300 --> 01:43:12,700 keep working on our proposal. 1432 01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:16,600 I'd like to just acknowledge my dear friend. 1433 01:43:17,210 --> 01:43:21,330 the late Harry Reid, a mentor who cared about this issue a great deal. So he's 1434 01:43:21,330 --> 01:43:25,470 looking down and smiling on us, but he's also importuning us to get the rest of 1435 01:43:25,470 --> 01:43:29,510 this done, which we will do everything we can to make happen. But where there 1436 01:43:29,510 --> 01:43:34,070 was smoke, there was a fire. And Congress is now aware of it. And so what 1437 01:43:34,070 --> 01:43:38,150 allows us to do is circle the wagons and try again. 1438 01:43:43,530 --> 01:43:45,730 Welcome to today's historic hearing. 1439 01:43:46,830 --> 01:43:50,510 There are certain individuals who didn't want this hearing to happen because 1440 01:43:50,510 --> 01:43:52,590 they feared what might be disclosed. 1441 01:43:56,990 --> 01:43:57,670 I 1442 01:43:57,670 --> 01:44:04,330 do. 1443 01:44:06,610 --> 01:44:07,610 Yes. 1444 01:44:10,230 --> 01:44:11,230 Yes. 1445 01:44:15,719 --> 01:44:19,600 Excessive secrecy has led to grave misdeeds against loyal civil servants, 1446 01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:24,640 military personnel, and the public, all to hide the fact that we are not alone 1447 01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:25,640 in the cosmos. 1448 01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:30,840 The U .S. is in possession of UAP technologies, as are some of our 1449 01:44:30,900 --> 01:44:35,780 We are in the midst of a multi -decade secretive arms race, one funded by 1450 01:44:35,780 --> 01:44:40,580 misallocated taxpayer dollars and hidden from our elected representatives and 1451 01:44:40,580 --> 01:44:41,580 oversight bodies. 1452 01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:45,560 Now that we know UAP are interacting with humanity, we should not turn a 1453 01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:50,000 eye, but instead boldly face this new reality and learn from it. One of the 1454 01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:54,560 important actions that can be taken relative to exposing the truth of UAP is 1455 01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:55,800 combat the stigma. 1456 01:44:56,020 --> 01:45:00,920 NASA personnel stepping forward and participating in such discussions would 1457 01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:05,400 a powerful statement to the scientific community that UAP should be taken 1458 01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:07,480 seriously and researched accordingly. 1459 01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:11,640 To the incoming administration and Congress, I say to you, we need 1460 01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:12,640 public transparency. 1461 01:45:12,900 --> 01:45:16,700 And this hearing is an important step on that journey. The truth is out there. 1462 01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:18,660 We just need to be bold enough. 1463 01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:21,200 and brave enough to face it. 1464 01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:32,700 America wants their pizzas in 30 minutes or less, and that's about our attention 1465 01:45:32,700 --> 01:45:39,360 span. I think the legacy program is that they think that America will 1466 01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:43,080 draw its attention somewhere else, and I just don't think that's the case. I 1467 01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:44,080 think we've lit the fuse. 1468 01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:46,740 I think the American people are ready. 1469 01:45:47,660 --> 01:45:48,720 to receive the truth. 1470 01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:59,020 Sitting here in a Senate building, recognizing what change has 1471 01:45:59,020 --> 01:46:02,860 been occurring, I never thought I'd see this day come, frankly. 1472 01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:10,380 And now that I see it here, I am unbelievably hopeful that it's 1473 01:46:10,380 --> 01:46:12,820 going to filter down into our society. 1474 01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:19,180 to where everyone realizes that the human species is actually in a melting 1475 01:46:19,180 --> 01:46:24,780 of many species throughout the galaxy. What I expect to come out of that is, 1476 01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:28,640 first of all, a greater appreciation of what it means to be a human. 1477 01:46:28,980 --> 01:46:35,800 And to me, that kind of change on the human character is probably more 1478 01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:38,500 significant than what we can learn about. 1479 01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:43,080 atoms and molecules and propulsion systems, my grandchildren are going to 1480 01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:48,920 up taking into account and thinking about the fact that the universe is full 1481 01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:54,820 life. We're on the threshold of an entirely different understanding of the 1482 01:46:54,820 --> 01:46:59,900 universe and our place within it and technological opportunities and 1483 01:46:59,900 --> 01:47:04,720 possibilities that were the stuff of science fiction just a few years ago. 1484 01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:10,160 The people behind the Legacy program truly believe that the secret is so 1485 01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:12,320 that they can't share it with the American people. 1486 01:47:12,980 --> 01:47:17,740 There may be aspects of this that are so intense they can't share it. However, I 1487 01:47:17,740 --> 01:47:21,720 think the basic fact that we are not alone in the universe, we can share that 1488 01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:23,880 with the American people. We can handle it at this point. 1489 01:47:24,220 --> 01:47:28,040 Hopefully, one day, the American people will learn the bigger story and how it 1490 01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:29,019 impacts us all. 1491 01:47:29,020 --> 01:47:32,200 I want to tell the American people what I know. 1492 01:47:32,670 --> 01:47:36,950 But I can't because a vast majority of it remains highly classified. I feel 1493 01:47:36,950 --> 01:47:41,550 tremendous pressure to share what I can because I know there will come a time 1494 01:47:41,550 --> 01:47:44,230 where we all wish we had done things differently. 1495 01:47:45,550 --> 01:47:47,630 That moment is imminent. 1496 01:47:48,090 --> 01:47:53,670 And when that moment comes, I know people will say, I wish somebody would 1497 01:47:53,670 --> 01:47:54,670 told me sooner. 1498 01:47:57,310 --> 01:48:03,810 Remember, as far as we've come, We are still only just beginning the greatest 1499 01:48:03,810 --> 01:48:09,150 paradigm shift in human history, the age of disclosure. 144978

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