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On Capitol Hill today, a bipartisan call for more government transparency on

UFOs, or as the military calls them, unidentified aerial phenomena, UAPs.

The objects have been detected essentially where all operations, Navy

are being conducted across the world. The technology that we faced was far

superior than anything that we have currently or that we're going to have in

next 10 to 20 years.

Unidentified aerial phenomena are a potential national security threat.

and they need to be treated that way.

The United States government has gathered a great deal of information

over many decades, but has refused to share it with the American people. That

wrong, and additionally, it breeds mistrust.

I spent 11 years in the U .S. Navy as a fighter pilot. For 18 years, I flew

fighters for the United States Navy.

I spent 20 years working in the U .S. intelligence community.

I served as the fourth director of national intelligence. I spent 25 years

senior official with the CIA.

I retired from the Navy as a one -star admiral after 32 years of service. I

worked on highly classified UAP programs for the government as a senior

scientist. I've spent 32 years in and out of government in national security.

I've worked 28 years as an astrophysicist on highly classified UAP

the United States government and for the defense industry.

I'm a professor in the Department of Pathology at Stanford University School

Medicine. And for the last 10 years or so, I've been working with the

of Defense and people in the CIA on the UAP topic.

I've come to the conclusion that we are not only not alone in the universe.

But we have been discovered by an intelligence from some other part of the

universe. There's evidence we are not alone.

Humanity is not the only intelligent species in the universe. We're not alone

the universe. It wouldn't be so arrogant to suggest there are no other forms of

life out there.

Humanity is not the only intelligence in the universe.

UAPs are real, they're here, and they're not human. There are other

intelligences that have highly advanced exotic craft interacting.

with the human population.

They are here.

This is real. It's happening.

It's happening now.

Non -human intelligence exists. It's been interacting with humanity and it's

been doing so on this planet for a long time. We are not the only intelligent

life form in the universe. There's something here on the planet with us

intelligent and more intelligent than us. This is the biggest discovery in

history.

My name is Lou Elizondo.

In 2009, my life changed forever.

That's when I was recruited into a highly sensitive government program that

investigated unidentified aerial phenomenon, UAP, also commonly known as

My work for the U .S. government goes back almost 30 years to when I joined

U .S. Army.

From there, I had the good fortune of being recruited into various programs

within military intelligence.

During my career, I served my country around the world managing and directing

missions, including counter -narcotics, counter -espionage, counter -terrorism,

and counter -insurgency.

And it was later in my career that I actually began running special access

programs for the U .S. government, and in some cases reported directly to the

White House and the National Security Council.

My name is Jay Stratton, and for over 16 years, on behalf of the U .S.

government, I worked as a senior intelligence official on the

aerial phenomenon topic.

I joined the Army at the age of 17 and left for a career in military

intelligence with eight combat deployments, including Iraq and

After the Army, I joined Naval Intelligence, and then I transitioned to

Defense Intelligence Agency, where I was the Chief of Air and Space Warfare

inside of the Defense Warning Office.

It was at the DIA that my colleagues and I started getting reports of what are

now called UAP. We went all over the government, the Pentagon, every

intelligence agency, anywhere we could think to try to find the UAP program,

assuming there was one. As far as we could tell, no one in the United States

government had a UAP program. So my colleagues and I began a new program,

ultimately became AATIP, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program,

AATIP.

The funding for this effort was sponsored by then Senate Majority

Senator Harry Reid.

And together, myself, Jay Stratton, and our team, for nearly a decade,

investigated UAP incidents around the world.

Based on hard evidence and data, we learned that UAPs present serious

security concerns and a potential existential threat.

Simply put, transmedium crafts.

Vehicles that have the capability to operate in space, air, and

water, and seemingly defy all that humanity knows about physics, have been

operating with complete impunity around the world since at least the 1940s.

At AATIP, we had access to some of the most sensitive videos in the Department

of Defense inventory. If you could be in my shoes...

and see what I've seen in folks like Jay Stratton, there would be zero shadow of

a doubt that these things are real and they are not made by humans. The things

that I've seen, the clearest videos, the best evidence that we have that these

are non -human intelligence remain classified.

The classified data that we had access to when we joined the program was

indisputable. There's 80 years of this data that the public isn't even aware

I have seen with my own eyes non -human craft and non -human beings.

For 23 years and 10 months, I was in the United States Air Force as an A -10

pilot. And while I was at NORAD, I witnessed an event that I will remember

forever.

There was an unknown object we were tracking on radars and the commander.

says, I want that target. That means intercept it. Fighters all the way down

eastern seaboard were scrambled.

And none of the fighters were successful in intercepting or running it down. We

were unable to maintain air sovereignty over North America.

On November 14, 2004...

We were on board the USS Nimitz, which is a nuclear aircraft carrier.

I was the most senior person in the squadron flying.

I had launched off Nimitz to do an air defense exercise off the coast of San

Diego, California.

And I ended up chasing a UAP known as the Tic Tac UAP.

It was about 40 feet long, and just sitting there in space, you can kind of

it start to accelerate, and as it gets in front of us, it's gone.

This thing was doing 32 ,000 miles an hour. So obviously that technology is

the United States.

As we were watching this Tic Tac object maneuver in this bizarre way,

it was obvious that it wasn't conventional. This was defying those

physics, laws of gravity that as pilots we live and die by. We literally had

these things docking Navy vessels on deployment.

The frequency in which UAP were being reported to us was increasing.

They were ubiquitous. We were seeing them nearly daily out there.

And then we actually almost had a midair with one of these objects.

This now became a safety issue.

Two aircraft from my squadron were flying out in close proximity to each

in section formation, so about 150 feet apart or so. One of these objects went

right in between those two aircraft.

right past the lead aircraft, and the lead aircraft was able to visually see

object, and he simply described it as a dark gray or a black cube inside of a

clear sphere.

To be clear, non -human intelligence has been actively conducting ISR,

intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance, of some of our most

.S. military facilities and nuclear sites.

They have both deactivated and activated nuclear weapons with both the United

States and Russia. The nuclear weapons that were activated in Russia were

pointed at us. And from that perspective, the stakes really could not

higher.

This is an emerging and disruptive threat for the United States and truly a

national security concern.

And by the way, this isn't just happening here in the United States.

happening all over the world and it's occurring with greater frequency.

When I met Lou Elizondo in the Pentagon, he made me aware not only that this

phenomenon was real, but it was an ongoing, persistent phenomenon.

The Secretary of Defense didn't know, the Congress didn't know, senior

policymakers didn't know, and nobody was doing anything about it other than Lou

and a handful of colleagues.

I was shocked and I was stunned, and immediately...

was concerned about intelligence failures that have occurred in the past

disasters that have ensued and determined immediately to do whatever I

help get Lou to the Secretary of Defense to move that information forward.

Each time Jay and I and others tried to raise the alarm bells and bring this

issue up to the appropriate level, we were met with fierce resistance.

The stigma alone and the taboo of the topic, the historical association of

was something that for most people in leadership positions was too big of a

to swallow. In fact, the stigma was so strong that people either believed, A,

the topic wasn't real, or B, the stigma was going to somehow taint or

tarnish their career so they didn't want to touch it. We couldn't get the

leadership in the Pentagon to look at the actual scientific data that showed

that there is a strong national security threat.

They were more worried about the impact on their reputation than they were about

the safety of the nation.

On top of that, we were shocked to find we were getting pushback from people in

the Pentagon based on their religious beliefs.

There really were religious fundamentalist extremists within the

had a severe adversity to this topic. These are national security experts,

senior members of the national intelligence community who are putting

religion above national security.

A senior DOD official actually stopped me in the hallway in the Pentagon and

told me that we were doing the devil's work. I had to deal with people who were

senior to me who were telling me... In their world, these are demons, and we

poking demons and messing in Satan's world and all these other things that,

me, I was like, I can't believe this is coming out of your mouth. I'm briefing

about an advanced aerospace vehicle that has been detected on multiple sensors

that's absolutely there, and you're telling me that you think these are

and that we shouldn't even look at them and study them. My mind was blown.

While we were trying to overcome all of these hurdles, we discovered another

deeply hidden and much larger UAP program.

This program was so sensitive that it was withheld from the

Secretary of Defense, Congress, and even the President of the United States.

This program is referred to as the Legacy Program.

This program had been capturing, retrieving, and reverse engineering UAPs

at least 1947.

On numerous occasions, these retrievals included the bodies of non -humans,

some sort of intelligence, intelligent being that is not human.

When Jay and I began knocking on doors and trying to get access into the Legacy

program, there was this almost like an immune response.

by the Legacy Program, and antibodies came out of everywhere to try to shut us

down. We began communicating with scientists involved in the Legacy

their leaders, when they learned of this, shut it down aggressively.

Not only were we met with fierce resistance and stonewalling, we actually

people angry at us that were even asking the question itself, as in, you know,

what right do we have to inquire about the Legacy Program, despite the fact

we were running AATIP? Put yourself in my shoes.

I'm conducting investigations of ongoing UAP activity, and there's this legacy

program that has at least 80 years of information that could help us better

understand this problem and protect national security, and they refuse to

it to us.

When it became clear that we couldn't work through the system, I knew from

experience having worked with the Senate Armed Services Committee what it takes

to move this oil tanker. Think about this.

immense, immense ship that has massive inertia.

And you're trying to get it to change course. When it comes to the Department

Defense, only Congress has the wherewithal to do that.

And the way to get Congress's attention is first and foremost through the press.

I knew we had to get the press engaged, to help get the Hill engaged, to then

get back.

to changing the Defense Department to study this problem to figure out, is

a threat? Where are these things coming from and how do they work?

As government employees, we're not allowed to talk to the media.

So Lou and I strategize on how to overcome this hurdle.

There were really only two choices.

The first choice was make peace with silence and sit on what is humanity's

greatest secret, all the while keeping Americans in the dark.

Or two.

I could resign my position in protest and fulfill my obligations to the

people by telling the truth about what I know about UAP.

There was this difficult moment where Lou had to decide, do I throw in

the towel?

Do we give up on this? Do we ignore this?

Or does he fall on his sword?

I couldn't nor would I ever reveal classified information, but I knew that

could say just enough at the unclassified level to make the media

government officials aware of the reality of the UAP topic, then Jay

would be able to use that momentum to go ahead and achieve the goals that we set

out to achieve inside the government.

And we had a number of difficult conversations because Lou was giving up

very... promising career he loved what he was doing he was very good at what he

was doing it's such a profound life decision for lou to make

for himself and his family during one of my routine hellish commutes back home

as i was stuck in traffic looking in front of me and behind me and seeing

thousands of cars i had this profound sense of isolation a feeling i had never

felt before in my life a feeling that that i was completely alone i might as

well been living on the dark side of the moon none of these people around me in

fact no one anywhere had any idea of what was actually going on around them

not a clue i thought to myself these individuals

deserve to know the truth, the mere fact that we're not alone in the universe.

How can any one organization, institution, religion, or government

or censor that or gatekeep that?

No one has the right to keep fundamental truths away from the American people

and humanity.

CNN has learned the Pentagon had a secretive program to research UFOs. The

existence of a secret government program to investigate UFO sightings. A recent

report by the New York Times unveiled the existence of a real -life X -Files

department. Their secret government program to investigate mysterious flying

objects. This seems potentially like one of the biggest stories of my lifetime.

These aircraft, we'll call them aircraft, are displaying

that are not currently within the U .S. inventory nor in any foreign inventory.

This is a very serious national security issue. Something is in our skies. It

has been there for quite some time.

If you have objects that are doing things, maneuvering in ways without any

obvious sign of propulsion, my submission is that what we are looking

truly... By definition, exotic technologies beyond next generation

And the bureaucracy in the Department of Defense really limited our ability to

keep leadership informed of what we were seeing.

As soon as the media started paying attention, Congress started paying

attention. I started getting calls from the Hill for briefings. Senators

received a classified briefing about UFOs at the Pentagon.

Senator Mark Warner, who is the vice chair of the Intelligence Committee,

look, I think it's important that the military is taking this more seriously

than they did in the past.

Senator Rubio and Senator Warner, to their great credit, put national

above their own personal political careers and took the risk of engaging

publicly on this issue.

When they began to engage, the Defense Department had to admit to the world

this was real and it was happening. And that immediately took the entire

credibility of the issue up a huge notch.

The U .S. Navy has finally acknowledged that videos appearing to show UFOs

flying through the air are real.

Commander David Fravor describing it like a 40 -foot long tic -tac. The

to hover over the water and then start a vertical climb from basically zero up

towards about 12 ,000 feet.

and then accelerate in less than two seconds and disappear is something I had

never seen in my life.

We've had repeated instances of something operating in the airspace over

restricted nuclear facilities, and it's not ours, and we don't know whose it is.

That alone, just that statement alone, deserves inquiry, deserves attention.

deserves focus.

If you have objects in the sky that you cannot identify, that's a problem

because it could be China, it could be Russia, it could be any adversary.

Well, any explained phenomenon could pose a natural threat.

That's the way you have to treat those things. There's something violating our

airspace. There's something fouling our ranges that even the people we've tasked

in the executive branch to understand this cannot...

provide an explanation.

So I would say, in addition to the national security implications, this has

implications for basic trust and confidence in the American government.

We just simply don't know the origin of the phenomena.

And we're going to try to get to the bottom of it because for national

purposes, some of these have been in areas that we train.

These have been in areas where we've got some of our best equipment, and yet our

best equipment has not been able to tag these things. We've not been able to go

in and catch them. No matter what they are, they're invading our airspace, and

we don't...

know exactly why they're doing it, what their intent is, and what their

capabilities are.

In addition to the national security concerns, this violation of all -nation

sovereign airspace presents a safety of flight concern for all military and

civilian aviation.

And the even scarier thing is that the Federal Aviation Administration stopped

using radar to track our air travel. They only track aircraft.

predominantly commercial and civilian, that are squawking. So they're actually

putting a signal into the system saying, here's where I am.

The only way they know the UAP are there is if the pilot sees something and says

something.

The fact that the FAA is not tracking UAP is putting American lives at risk

every day.

I'm Brett Fetterson. I served as the Director of Aviation Security in the

National Security Council.

and as the acting director for the Federal Aviation Administration's

Security Programs Office, I can say through my experience that we are

not alone in this universe.

The biggest thing that concerns me with UAPs is the national security concern.

It's the unknown. It's the fact that this technology does stuff that we can't

do. And if we can't figure out what it is or what it wants or what it's being

used for, it keeps me up at night in the idea that we're behind the power curve.

We want to be able to maintain the cutting -edge technology and the

here in the United States so that we can sleep comfortably at night and feel the

safety of what the American government has provided. There's sort of, I think,

four hypotheses out there, one of which is that this is foreign adversary

technology that we simply don't understand or weren't aware of, and that

amount to probably the biggest intelligence failure in modern American

The second of which is that this is a robust counterintelligence program to

cover up for a U .S. government effort that has fallen kind of away from

congressional oversight.

A third hypothesis is obviously that this is interdimensional or

extraterrestrial. And then fourth could be a combination of the previous three.

Some of the biggest strategic blunders in human history. The foundation of

blunders were a lack of imagination. The belief that an adversary or whoever

could not do something because it had never been done before. The U .S.

it was safe for those ships in Pearl Harbor because we didn't think that the

Japanese could get there, much less have torpedoes that could navigate such a

narrow strait and hit these ships until they did.

We never thought in our wildest dreams.

that terrorists would strike us in the homeland by training for a year to

pilots and then hijacking commercial aircraft and crashing them into

And they did.

So the thing that always keeps me up at night, something in the human psyche

that says, I don't have time or energy to sort of prepare for the unforeseen or

what I've never seen done before.

And, you know, that leads to strategic surprise and sometimes strategic

surprises that change the course of human history.

There was one classified briefing that I gave to members of the House and Senate

where I took military pilots to tell them the story of their encounters with

UAP. Those stories left them so rattled that they had trouble sleeping that

night.

The United States' most trusted military servicemen and women and irrefutable

data from our intelligence collection systems have been observing UAP for

decades.

Everything observed can be categorized by five distinct performance

characteristics. At AATIP, we call these the observables.

The first observable is hypersonic velocity.

Our current fastest aircraft can go roughly 4 ,600 miles per hour. However,

the UAP we are observing are traveling at 40 ,000 miles per hour and sometimes

faster.

The next observable is instantaneous acceleration, the sudden change in

velocity. At full speed, the SR -71, known as the Blackbird, requires roughly

half the state of Ohio to complete its turn.

What we are seeing with UAP are vehicles that can make immediate right -angle

turns, instantaneously accelerating and stopping on a dime.

at speeds up to 10 times faster than the SR -71.

If you're in a sustained fight, you can get up to 7 .5 Gs. It gets physically

painful over time to be under that amount of gravity. And that's just going

0 to 200 miles an hour in about 2 .5 seconds.

Now think of going 0 to thousands of miles an hour in less than a second,

the force would be on your body. The human body can only take so much before

internal organs start to separate themselves from everything they're

which is usually bad.

Even if it was a drone, it would rip the drone, the unmanned vehicle, apart.

The next observable is low observability. All modern technology

signature.

For example, most aircraft leave visible contrails as they fly.

We usually hear a sonic boom associated with the sound barrier being broken.

UAP, however, leave almost no observable signatures.

Our airplanes actually throw out exhaust behind it and thrust behind it to push

it forward.

Whatever these things are, they're not doing that. There is no exhaust, no

particles coming off of them that we can see.

The next observable is transmedium travel.

UAP have been observed operating in space, in air, and underwater.

And they are moving seamlessly through each of these environments without any

normal signature and without compromising performance.

We've observed a transmedium capability of these phenomena to move from space to

the atmosphere to the ocean.

In the Aguadilla, Puerto Rico case, a DHS helicopter caught the spherical

flying.

It entered the water and exited the water, so transmedium, without losing

velocity. It goes into the ocean and makes no splash or wake at 74 miles per

hour. I calculated how much force you would require just to propel a

under the water at 74 miles per hour, and you would need a Bezos 7 rocket

or two Learjet engines. That would churn the water up like crazy. So this is a

technology that's frictionless.

The next observable is anti -gravity. UAP seemed to be defying the natural

effects of Earth's gravity without any obvious means of doing so. No signs of

propulsion or lift, meaning no wings. No control surfaces or ability to

maneuver. In 2014 to 2015, we were operating off the coast of Virginia

off the eastern seaboard.

It was during this time that we upgraded our radar from the APG -73 to the APG

-79 radar.

And this allowed us to essentially see more objects we weren't expecting to

And there's a particular case of one of these objects maintaining a complete

stationary position inside of 120 -knot winds, essentially inside of a

hurricane. We're all going against the wind. The wind's 120 miles to the west.

Look at this thing.

It's rotating.

It just seems like they're not affected by the environment the way we are. They

were tracking them from above 80 ,000 feet.

So for those that don't know, above 80 ,000, that's where you start getting

space. So these things were coming down. They would sit for like three hours,

and they would go back up, which to my knowledge, we don't have anything that

has the capabilities as far as the energy required to come down, hang out

three hours, and go up. The observed UAP capability exceeds that.

of even the most advanced human technologies that are developed in

black programs.

From our exposure, I mean, there's nothing we have that comes close.

There's actually a sixth observable, which is not a flight characteristic.

That is biological effects.

I got started working on this actually in this office.

There was a knock at the door, and two individuals who represented themselves

being with the CIA in an aerospace company came to me and asked for my

They had data of military personnel, intelligence officials, and others

associated with the Department of Defense who had direct interactions with

and because of that direct interaction, suffered some kind of medical harm.

They wanted my help to look at the so -called inflammatory secondary events

might be measured in the blood.

Anything from the...

horrific burns that i've seen on some of the individuals that leads to secondary

problems with autoimmune diseases and sclerosis etc and then the internal

scarring that i've seen on some individuals these people had scarring

their bodies and inside of their brains and if you think about it you know if

you get too close to the back end of a jet engine or for instance if you get

close to the transformer system that is powering your neighborhood

There's energy coming out of those things. I mean, those are just human

technologies. Now imagine you've got something which is a more advanced

technology, which is generating some kind of field that allows these objects

move. You can imagine if you get too close to it, you're going to get harmed.

I spent 10 years as an intelligence officer for the Navy, and before that,

years as Air Force intelligence.

And I spent time on the UAP task force.

I'm one of the intelligence officials that has experienced biological effects

encountering UAP.

Since my first encounter, I've observed other craft

or we'll call it exotic energy fields.

Unfortunately, those of us who have investigated it... We become part of the

investigation or investigated by our colleagues. The population had about a

mortality rate within seven years of having an interaction.

Probably important that the public understands that this is more than just

aerial phenomena.

When you have an anecdote that is accompanied by medical data, that's

that I can hand to another scientist, another doctor, and say, here it is, you

explain it. We can argue about what the conclusion is, but we can't argue that

the data is real.

The Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence, who understood the

concerns of UAP, directed me to start quietly building out a whole government

interagency effort that ultimately became the UAP Task Force.

This new program was much bigger than AATIP ever was. Our mission was to

analyze, and catalog UAPs that posed a threat to U .S. national security.

I had hand -picked members from all 16 agencies of the intelligence community.

The Secretary of Defense formally announced the UAP Task Force in August

2020, naming me the first director.

Everyone in authority was paying attention to this topic.

One very distinctive moment for me was briefing then Secretary of Treasury

Mnuchin. I got through my briefing, and at the end of the brief, he sat back in

his chair, and he said, you know, Jay, you may wonder why I asked for this

briefing. And he said, What are the economic impacts of the president going

the microphone and telling the world we're not alone?

I have to think about those kinds of impacts in order to prepare if the

president were to make that move.

Meanwhile, Chris Mellon and I were working with the Senate behind the

craft UAP legislation that was then.

taken by Marco Rubio and pushed into the coronavirus relief bill.

When President Trump signed this legislation into law, it then forced the

Pentagon and the UAP task force to provide written reports to Congress,

classified and unclassified.

The long -awaited Pentagon report on UFOs has finally been released.

The director of national intelligence just a few days ago released a new

on 144 sightings. When we talk about sightings, we're talking about objects

have been seen by Navy or Air Force pilots or have been picked up by

imagery. Frankly, there are a lot more sightings than have been made public.

report clarifies that most incidents over the past two decades are not from

U .S. military or other advanced U .S. government technology.

So the issue now is, why are they here, where are they coming from, and what is

the technology behind these devices that we're observing?

As noisy as that first unclassified report was, it barely scratched the

The few elected officials that actually got to read the classified version of

the report, it really opened their eyes to the national security concerns

surrounding this topic. There's enough obvious evidence here that we need to

take this seriously, not downplay it. I don't believe they're coming from

foreign adversaries.

If they were, why, that would suggest that they have a technology which is in

whole different sphere than anything we understand.

And frankly, China and Russia just aren't there.

And neither are we, by the way. They say trillions of gas. galaxies out there,

so who knows what might have developed somewhere else. Does the United States

believe that there may be life outside of Earth?

What we believe is that there are unexplained aerial phenomena that have

cited and reported by pilots, Navy and Air Force, that these phenomena have,

in some cases, had an impact on our training ranges, on our pilots' ability

fly, train, operate.

You can stay ready.

That alone makes it a national security issue worth looking at.

We don't know.

We don't have the answers about what these phenomena are.

As we continue to make progress, a very powerful disinformation campaign

began.

This effort was to destroy my reputation and credibility.

Full stop.

When the government started running this despicable disinformation campaign

against Lou, I actually received an email one day from the Pentagon Public

Affairs Office with this narrative that they were providing back to the media

that was completely false.

And I replied also to that email and said, this is wrong. And they ran with

anyway.

They actually told the American people that Lou Elizondo did not work there,

that was an outright lie.

My family and I suffered greatly for it.

All you have in your life is really your credibility and your work.

It's heartbreaking.

They don't want anybody that's based on facts being involved in this. So what do

they do?

They go online and try to belittle.

Elizondo and me and anybody else that's trying to do it a scientific way.

As hard as it was, I was still being privately encouraged by former members

AATIP to continue the fight. And so that gave me the motivation to continue to

press forward. And the fire that we started continued to spread. After

of public denial, the Pentagon now admits there's something out there.

And the U .S. Senate wants to know what it is.

UFOs, unidentified flying objects, are real. The government has already stated

for the record that they're real. I'm not telling you that. The United States

government is telling you that. There's footage and records of objects in the

skies that we don't know exactly what they are. What's your viewpoint on what

these objects that seem to defy all laws of physics are?

Well, first of all, that's a legitimate question now. There are lots of

mysteries out there. It should keep us humble.

There's a lot of stuff we don't know.

There have been sightings all over the world. And when we talk about sightings,

the other thing I will tell you is it's not just a pilot or just a satellite or

some intelligence collection.

Usually we have multiple sensors that are picking up these things. There's

always the question of...

Is there something else that we simply do not understand that might come

extraterrestrially? I think it's a bit presumptuous and not arrogant for us to

believe that there's no other form of life anywhere in the entire universe.

I've seen some of those videos from Navy pilots, and I must tell you that they

are quite eyebrow -raising and might in fact be some type of phenomenon that

is the result of something that we don't yet understand.

And that could involve some type of activity that some might say constitutes

different form of life.

We don't know if the non -human intelligence that is already here is

extraterrestrial or perhaps some sort of crypto -terrestrial. Some people who

are into...

The physics of time travel thinks, well, maybe they're time travelers. Even some

sort of proto -human that somehow branched off from the human family tree

ago and is as natural to this planet as we are. Some ancient civilization that's

sequestered away somewhere on the Earth or on the seabed.

We've heard testimonials from pilots as well as civilians from different

countries having seen things come from the ocean.

Unexplained things. And these aren't missiles. They aren't rockets. They

aircraft or submarines.

These are otherworldly things that are performing maneuvers that haven't been

seen. In fact, we have tracked UAP underwater going at speeds in excess of

several hundred miles an hour, but without the associated signatures.

I retired as the oceanographer of the Navy, being the senior advisor for the

chief of naval operations in the Pentagon.

Our knowledge of the ocean is rather limited. We haven't even explored 80 %

the ocean volume.

We have mapped the surface of Mars and the moon to a higher resolution than the

Earth's seafloor. Is it possible that whatever we're seeing isn't from out

there? It's from down there.

Are we looking at an entire world?

underneath the water. I think it's very safe to say that with so much of the

ocean volume unexplored and the sea floor unmapped, that if any intelligence

were to arrive here and not want to be detected, it would stay in the ocean.

All these possibilities could come with different intentions and motivations.

Whoever it is, they're here.

And they're operating here.

And they have been operating here for a long time.

In 2022, we started pushing Congress hard to hold public UAP hearings. And

that's when disclosure started to get to the next level.

A House panel is holding a public hearing.

on mysterious flying objects.

The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee describes this as one of the

great mysteries of our time. And it's a big day for all of these people who have

spent so many years pushing for more transparency into this topic. Out of

everything in Congress and everything happening currently in our country and

world right now, the UAP topic has been one of the only topics that's received

this level of bipartisan support.

It's just not an issue, at least as of yet, in this country that lends itself

some sort of partisan or ideological divide.

Democrats and Republicans just want to understand what's going on.

This hearing and oversight work has a simple idea at its core.

Unidentified aerial phenomena are a potential national security threat, and

need to be treated that way.

UAPs are unexplained. It's true.

But they are real.

They need to be investigated.

and many threats they pose need to be mitigated. There is something there

measurable by multiple instruments, and yet it seems to move in directions that

are inconsistent with what we know of physics or science more broadly.

There are a number of events in which we do not have an explanation, in which

there are flight characteristics or signature management that we can't

We know there are service members...

have encountered unidentified aerial phenomena.

And because UAPs pose potential flight safety and general security risks, we

committed to a focused effort to determine their origins. The

systems, processes, and sources we use to observe, record, study, or analyze

these phenomena need to be classified at appropriate levels.

We do not want, we do not want potential adversaries to know exactly what we're

able to see or understand or how we come to the conclusions we make.

Therefore, public disclosures must be carefully considered on a case -by -case

basis. The hearing was a historic bipartisan effort towards transparency,

left both the American public and Congress with more questions than

While I was making progress, I learned that the legacy program was quietly

behind the scenes pushing back, and they were creating bureaucratic hurdles.

They were somehow able to block the funding that was approved for the UAP

force. I can't describe it any other way than I was just angry. There's this

hidden hand that is blocking all of these actions and things that I'm doing.

A subversive government overriding the real government. It's so bad that we

really aren't going to make progress until someone shines the light on them.

And then the staff and the members start to dig in more.

They begin to understand the landscape.

They begin to understand how much secrecy there is, how much resistance

to coming clean on this.

As Congress began hearing from whistleblowers in classified settings,

to the realization of the existence of the legacy program.

The main players in the legacy program have long been the Central Intelligence

Agency, the United States Air Force, the Department of Energy, and major defense

contractors. The Central Intelligence Agency is responsible for the oversight

the overall effort.

You might think of them as a little bit of a headquarters element.

The Deputy Director of Science and Technology at the CIA controls the UAP

retrieval portfolio.

The United States Air Force is responsible for field operations.

These are the folks that are responsible for deploying within moment's notice

anywhere in the world to go secure and retrieve crashed UAP.

We have intelligence teams quickly notified if there's some UAP event that

involve a crash vehicle or pieces from a crash vehicle.

The United States Air Force uses their own special forces, but they also

coordinate with other special forces in the other branches of the U .S.

military.

They're so well organized that they basically can get to a site, gather

material, whatever it is, and once it's in their possession...

They have the authority to classify it and therefore make any information about

it unavailable to the public, even admission that it exists unavailable to

public. The defense contractors, they're responsible for the exploitation and

the reverse engineering and analysis of the materials. They provide technical

and advisory services that the government doesn't have.

And last but not least is the Department of Energy.

They are the world's experts in anything that is related to either atomic or

nuclear technology or anything that gives off radiation.

But there's another advantage because the Department of Energy has its own

security classification system well outside the overview and oversight, if

will, of traditional classification systems like the Department of Defense

the intelligence community.

They've used the security and classification.

in the Atomic Energy Act to hide the legacy crash retrieval program.

The intelligence officials that have briefed on these crash retrievals have

talked about a number of different species having been observed to be

with the crash.

The bodies recovered are not all the same type.

I'm aware of at least two advanced non -human species.

one of which made contact with the Legacy Crash Retrieval Program, the

which the bodies were recovered by the Crash Retrieval Program in various

crashes. One of the questions that's often raised, if they're so advanced,

are there crashes?

But of course, I mean, you know, cars are well made and people drive them

carefully, but there are crashes. It can happen.

Another option that's being considered is that maybe some of these were not,

quote, really crashes but that they were left here for us to examine in

order to advance our technology forward at a faster pace so in that sense they

can be seen as gifts from more intelligent species one of the questions

would then be raised would be well are gifts distributed differently among

different nations or more or less homogeneously to see who

survives and makes progress to pass this.

It could be a giant IQ test, you might say.

As we brought whistleblowers to Congress, we learned that the legacy

involved in a long -running secret war with other nations to collect and

engineer vehicles not made by humans.

In this secret theater of war, the U .S. has both allies and adversaries in a

winner takes all scenario.

This is a very complicated geopolitical landscape where alliances and

allegiances shift like sand in the desert.

We would certainly prefer a situation where the retrieval is either

in international waters or some other uncontested location, or maybe in an

allied country, but every country in the world would do everything in their

power to try to retrieve an exquisite piece of technology.

The first country that cracks the code on this technology will be the leader

years to come. This is similar to the Manhattan Project. We developed the

weapon, we won the war, and it made us a superpower for almost a century now.

This is the atomic weapon on steroids.

Some of the craft could be the result of, say, our legacy program.

Or, on the other hand, it might be the result of advancements made by potential

adversaries. We have seen...

Highly credible U .S. government intelligence on the Soviet recovery of a

crashed UAP in 1989. They recovered a tic -tac -shaped UAP that was twice as

as the tic -tac that was encountered by the USS Nimitz carrier strike group, and

they did recover four bodies of humanoid aliens.

The Soviet scientists took apart the recovered craft and discovered...

a very advanced directed energy weapon.

China is at the top of everybody's list of concern right now in the Defense

Department. Some of this UAP activity we are seeing here in the United States

may actually be a result of a Chinese UAP reverse engineering program.

If Xi Jinping had access to this, if Putin had access to this, and they

that we did not have access to similar capabilities than what they did,

Do you think for a second that they wouldn't consider using it to achieve

ends of domination?

And if their approach to it is driven by science and a desire to match what they

think is ours, we'll wake up one day and realize, I don't know how they got

there, but they got there ahead of us and now we're screwed.

This technology can absolutely either revolutionize the way we do things or

completely destroy everything that we know.

It often reminds me.

of the famous speech by President John F. Kennedy when we were right at the

threshold of entering into a new era of discovery in space.

There is new knowledge to be gained and new rights to be won.

And they must be won and used for the progress of all people.

For space science, like nuclear science and all technology, has no conscience of

its own.

Whether it will become a force for good or ill depends on man.

And only if the United States occupies a position of preeminence

can we help decide whether this new ocean will be a sea of

peace or a new terrifying theater of war.

So secret, there have been very, very few people in our entire government that

have been allowed or provided access to it.

Some presidents have been briefed on the basic facts about the situation, but

they are not provided with all the details.

I think there's this assumption that presidents can walk in the Oval Office

day one and say, all right, take me to Roswell, show me the alien bodies. I

to see the video of the autopsy. I want to see the whole thing, open it up. I

think that really is a naive.

understanding of how our government works.

Even presidents have often been operating on a need -to -know basis.

That's certainly true from a historic standpoint.

The rationale, the justification was the president shouldn't know about these

things because that way the president always has deniability.

All they need is a nod in this direction or in that direction. But that begins

to ramp out of control. Frankly, I don't even know if the president would know

who to ask.

You could go to the director of the CIA, nowadays the director of national

intelligence, and ask them. And even that person may not know because those

people rotate.

But the people, three layers underneath them that are there for 30 years, to

them, it's like I've seen these people come and go. I have no obligation to

them it exists.

It just never percolates out. A lot of people have this assumption that the

director of CIA is right on to everything and knows everything. The

CIA is a political appointee.

Quite frankly, they're temporary help. Whereas the director of science and

technology at CIA, this is a career intelligence professional.

That's where you're going to put the program.

I had a few private conversations with former President George Herbert Walker

Bush in 2003, in which he told me that when he became the CIA director in the

Ford administration, he was not briefed.

on the legacy UAP crash retrieval program, but he later found out about

he informed me that there were a number of crash retrievals that had taken place

since the mid -1940s. And he also informed me of a UAP event that took

Holloman Air Force Base in 1964, where three UAPs approached the Air Force

One of them landed on the tarmac, and a non -human entity

de -boarded the craft that landed and interacted with uniformed Air Force and

civilian CIA personnel.

And when he asked for more details, he was told that he did not have a need to

know.

I served over 30 years as an Army Green Beret in the United States Army. I ended

my career as Secretary of Defense.

official decided i the acting secretary of defense did not have a need to know

about the uap topic several of my colleagues participated in a panel

by the george bush administration when the administration contemplated going

public with disclosure what it was a group of 10 or 12 people from

agencies from the military some business people and they said here's what's

going on the americans The Russians and the Chinese all have crash -retrieved

craft from some other civilization. And there's some belief at this point that

maybe this should be revealed to the public. And we want to know, well, what

would the consequences be?

This is a topic that has the potential to create serious ontological shock to

society. It's not just national security.

It's psychological.

It's sociological.

It's... theological, and it's philosophical.

It's undermining, in many ways, it's troubling to a lot of people to say that

there's something else out there. Is it either otherworldly, interdimensional? I

think, unfortunately, it goes against our traditions, our cultural traditions,

our religious traditions, and it challenges the beliefs of a lot of

The Vatican has irrefutable evidence that non -human intelligence exists,

although publicly they don't want to acknowledge it.

Privately, they are very well aware of this.

What happens when society realizes everything it's been taught about the

history of our species has been wrong, and everybody learns all at once that

we're not the top of the food chain, we're not the alpha predators?

It would be a shake -up for institutions,

it'd be a shake -up for norms, it'd be a shake -up in society.

One has to be careful and one has to remember that it's conceivable that

something that's so disturbing or disruptive or negative that there is a

rationale for not immediately disclosing all of that information.

We actually came up with a list of 64 areas that really would be impacted to

some significant degree by such a disclosure.

When we add up all the numbers, it looks like this would be kind of a bad idea.

Did you go through the secret files, the UFO document? Now that you're out of

office, you can do anything you want, right? True, yeah.

But I'm not telling you.

Without a doubt, there's hardly been any program that has been so successfully

kept out of the public eye as anything like crash retrievals of unknown craft.

This line...

of strong control started, at least in the Truman administration, with the

Roswell crash.

In AATIP, we learned that the UAP event at the U .S. Army airfield in Roswell in

1947 did actually occur.

It was described to be a boot -heel -shaped UAP that broke into two pieces

impact.

And observers saw what looked like hieroglyphics or some type of writing on

You might describe them as runes or glyphs, hieroglyphs, that were actually

the craft itself.

And within that crash, non -human bodies were recovered.

Four non -human bodies were recovered from the UAP crash at Roswell.

The recovered material from the crash, including the bodies, were all sent up

Wright Field, which is now called Wright -Patterson Air Force Base.

That's where the U .S. had their best reverse engineers.

Think about the context for everything in 1947.

The U .S. had just won World War II and was entering into a Cold War with the

USSR.

These UAP presented a technology of unfathomable power.

It was imperative that the U .S. be able to reverse engineer this new technology

before anybody else or before anybody else even knew about it.

You can't tell your friends without telling your enemies.

That's a key component to every decision as to what we do or do not release.

Back in 1947, when they looked at this and they realized it was real and they

realized they had no idea what it was, this was something you couldn't just

about because...

The role of the President of the United States and the role of the military is

to defend the United States and to protect its citizens.

If this is something that they can't protect against, well, they're not going

come out and say it. They're not going to scare anybody.

They don't want to tell the American public about the threat because there's

nothing they can do about it.

It was only a couple months after Roswell that President Truman signed the

National Security Act of 1947, which established both the Air Force...

and the Central Intelligence Agency.

That was the start point in which both the CIA and the Air Force began to take

operational control of the UAP topic. But it wasn't until a couple years later

when Truman signed the Central Intelligence Agency Act that really

endorsed the CIA to be able to run secret intelligence operations outside

normal routine oversight channels. Basically, be able to run operations

anybody knowing.

From Roswell on, the strategy for dealing with the public and ensuring U

secrecy is maintained was to basically adopt the strategy of deny everything,

admit nothing, make counter accusations, put out false narratives, intimidate

and discredit witnesses. In essence, deny, deny, deny, establish stigma

surrounding this topic in order to prevent any type of disclosure.

Executive Order 12333 bans covert action to influence the public and the media,

but the Legacy Crash Retrieval Program has been ignoring that. In fact, they

aggressively influencing public opinion by using an active disinformation

campaign. To create the tradition of disbelief, where you basically start

early, that, nah, nah, everybody who sees UFOs are crackpots.

And then that gets built in, you know, to the media enterprise. It gets built

into Hollywood. It gets built into the public. CIA funded Hollywood movies in

order to create that ridicule factor that they still use to this day.

Do you believe that the recent spike in UFO encounters... I get the UFO

question? Come on, man.

I'm not...

I'm just, you know, I loved E .T., the movie, but I'm just going to leave it

there. Up until very recently, there was zero incentive for a naval aviator to

come forward and say, this is what I saw. And honestly, up until very

there was zero incentive for a U .S. senator to talk about it because people

would think, what's wrong? This guy's a weirdo. Over the years, military service

members, intelligence officials, and even private citizens have been

and made to look crazy.

to the point where people have lost their jobs, they've lost their ability

provide for their families, they've lost their security clearances.

These people had their lives ruined simply because they spoke the truth

what they learned or what they saw.

People that come forward with this, I feel like they've taken their life in

their own hands.

People say, well, government can't keep a secret. Well, there are a number of

programs I've been involved in that have never.

gotten revealed. The truth of the matter is people and programs can be kept

secret. Usually it's just out of personal wanting to protect oneself.

This is the most successful disinformation campaign in the history

government. The irony in this is that the deception campaign to create stigma

was so successful, it actually inadvertently created a new unforeseen

Stigma has been a tremendous problem that is actually a national security

to the United States. Other countries are not suffering from the stigma that

are. So we are already, as Americans, at a disadvantage.

How can we expect to maintain a strategic advantage when 99 .999 % of

scientists here in this country don't even think it's real. Science moves

forward on the basis of exchanging information, and when it's all tied up

held down, you just can't make progress.

You had information being locked away that, frankly, could improve the lives

every human being on this planet and change the trajectory for species.

This information was and is still being locked down by the Legacy Crash

Retrieval Program.

Too much information resides in different stovepipes.

It's controlled by different baronies and different fiefdoms spread throughout

the national security kingdom.

They each view information as power.

They're each reluctant to share information. They hoard it. They like to

it like a currency.

All of these things conspire to prevent us from getting the big picture and

bringing the information together.

any or maybe just a tiny number of uh reports of uap notwithstanding

the fact that the air force controls the north american aerospace defense

command they're responsible for space surveillance they have aircraft with

superior radar systems operating in the same training ranges where the navy is

seeing and reporting these aircraft and yet They claim they don't have evidence

of this.

Imagine we had a situation where we're saying there are unidentified submarines

off the coast of the United States, and the only reports we got were from the

Air Force, and the Navy had nothing to say about it.

During the George W. Bush administration, the president routinely

his ranch in Stevensville, Texas, and I see reporting of UAP activity over the

ranch.

F -16s from a nearby Air Force base were alerted to intercept this object.

People on the ground thought.

So I go down and I start asking questions. Hey, what did you chase? I'm

on behalf of the U .S. government and we're trying to understand what you saw.

And they looked me in the eyes and said, Jay, we cannot tell you what we saw

because the OSI, Air Force Office of Special Investigations, came in here,

us sign nondisclosure agreements.

We did see something. We did scramble on something, but we can't talk to you

about it.

Historically, every time a military member had a UAP encounter, it was very

quickly swept under the rug and they were discouraged from talking about it.

They put a form down. It was a nondisclosure form.

He came storming across to me and said, don't you ever say that again. You're

never going to speak of this. And I made it very clear that it's something we

shouldn't be talking about and just keep our mouth shut. There was a culture of

silence. I didn't talk to anybody about it, not my wife, not my colleagues, not

people I knew. I just shut up. There's ramifications if you were to divulge any

of this information to anyone.

We received an alarm at our closest missile site.

There was an object directly above that ICBM nuclear missile, right on top of

the blast door.

No noise, no sound whatsoever, and it looked like a mini sun sitting in the

It was the size of a super Walmart building.

Not just a Walmart, I mean a super Walmart. This thing was gargantuan. And

it could suspend itself was just completely unnatural to what we know of

anything that can fly or hover.

The captain was looking, just looking up with his mouth open, and I look up and

I see this object right over the missile launch tube.

Multifaceted, matte black finish, an oddly shaped diamond.

Absolutely silent, made no noise. There was no means of propulsion.

Fifty feet up in the air, sitting absolutely still.

And it was amazing.

We kind of looked at one another and we're just human beings witnessing

something extraordinary. And while we're watching this thing, it went from dead

still and it shot off toward the horizon and was gone.

Absolutely instant acceleration.

We had 60 cameras so that the engineers at Boeing and Douglas could see every

millisecond of the ignition.

The missile in question that we photographed was an Atlas D carrying, as

an experiment, a dummy nuclear warhead.

As it was flying along, the warhead, the shaft, something else entered the

frame. It sent a beam of light and hit the warhead, flew up like this.

Shot another beam of light down at the warhead. Went like this, shot another

beam of light at the warhead.

Went under here, shot a beam of light at the warhead, and then flew out the way

to come in.

All the while, everything in our frame was moving along at 8 ,000 to 9 ,000

miles an hour.

There's nothing in there for us that could have done that.

Could have done that.

There was this red -orange light hovering above the front gate.

It was about 40 feet in diameter, sort of oval shape.

And each missile was announcing guidance and control system failure. Our

missiles were starting to go down, so we had all 10 of them go down.

Within the span of eight days, we lost 20 nuclear missiles to UFOs.

Vandenberg is home to...

the infrastructure that supports our national missile defense project, the

system that defends our country from incoming ballistic missiles and nuclear

weapons. So it's one of the most important bases we have.

On October 14, 2003, I showed up to work at Vandenberg Air Force Base, and

immediately everybody just started to tell me about this UFO incident that had

happened earlier that morning. I reported for work at Vandenberg Air

We were given a briefing earlier in the day, some Boeing contractors.

had witnessed a UAP incursion. Three Boeing contractors had called in and

reported that a gigantic red square object was floating over the launch pad

low altitude. It was making no noise.

It had no obvious signs of propulsion, and it was just hovering silently.

It was a very serious security breach of the area.

And we were told just to be vigilant when we were out on our shift that

And I spent most of the day driving around the base looking for these

Later that night, myself and five security forces members, we observed a

light approaching the base. As it got closer, the light was no longer visible,

and it was massive, the size of a football field, almost rectangular in

It was just floating there, no propulsion system, no windows.

It was matte black.

We observed it for another 45 seconds, and then it shot off.

thousands of miles an hour up the coast.

I talked to all the direct witnesses, over a dozen people, and even from their

different vantage points, they all told the same story. They all saw the same

thing. The UAP activity surrounding nuclear weapons is not a historic issue.

It's an ongoing issue.

Despite the long -standing denial by the United States Air Force, we now have...

Both former and current very senior Air Force officials stating for the record

that in fact the Air Force has had a long -standing involvement in UAP.

I served in the Air Force for about 32 years.

And my last job in the Air Force was Chief of Air Force Intelligence prior to

becoming Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

When I served in the Air Force, there was an active program to track.

anomalous activities that we couldn't otherwise explain. Many of them

with ranges out west, notably Area 51.

As Congress learned more about the legacy program, they realized how

and influential the defense contractors have become.

As we look at the actual structure,

of the interaction between the government and private industry in this

Over the years, it has morphed, transitioned into it being largely in

of the contractors.

If you do something within the government, eventually it can be

Freedom of Information Act. But if you do something through contractors,

not. available through Freedom of Information Act. I had been involved

projects where we made sure that the material was under contractor labels so

that it couldn't be accessed easily by the public.

But what happens with government, you need continuity. People move, people

people retire.

And so what winds up happening is you have these legacy efforts going on in

government contractor side involving UAP. And then I, the government official

charge of this program, leave.

and someone else takes my place and that person might have a little bit of

awareness that this project existed but then they're replaced by a third person

who has no idea the project existed but the corporate entity that received this

technology is still trying to develop it and so they begin to commercialize that

some of the stuff begins to seep out and these great innovations that some

companies coming up with and making money on and they claim it belongs to

and it's proprietary and the people in government who know where it came from

originally

They're long gone, and their successors have no idea that it was there at all.

And so you can start to foresee where you create in corporate hands an

extraordinary amount of power. The real risk that in transferring technology

that is not useful to us today to a corporate entity, over decades that

corporate entity comes to basically possess and control access to it for

own purposes, not for the purposes of national security.

In the councils of government, we must guard against.

the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought,

military -industrial complex.

The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will

persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or

democratic processes.

The reason why our democracy is so strong, because it's of the people and

people and for the people. It's not acceptable to have secret parts of

government that no one ever sees. It would be unconscionable. It's against

Constitution, and it's wrong.

Non -human intelligence is not government information, and the

not be keeping that knowledge from the people.

Before he passed away, I had the privilege of seeing Senator Harry Reid

few times in his private residence.

He explained to me that he was once provided information on the legacy

but denied access. He was incensed by that. And when the opportunity came to

sponsor AATIP, he jumped at the opportunity in order to ensure that

the government had visibility into this topic.

And frankly, we wouldn't be where we are today if it wasn't for the courage of

Senator Harry Reid. Why the federal government all these years has covered

put brake pads on everything, stopped it.

I think it's very, very bad for our country. Shouldn't we study this stuff?

The answer is yes.

And that's all this was about.

For decades, our government assumed there must be different exotic

responsible for each of the observables.

But our scientists realized one breakthrough technology could actually

responsible for everything.

With enough energy, you could create a bubble, a warp bubble, around a

spacecraft that would have a different property of space -time inside the

than on the outside of the bubble.

This energy field would completely isolate the craft from the environment.

So you might ask then, how does the craft actually move forward within its

bubble? The craft inside the bubble has a way of altering the bubble's

properties in order to change its direction of motion.

Such that you have a downward press in front and an upward press behind.

So it'd be like riding space -time in the same way that a surfer would ride a

wave in the ocean.

And we observe hypersonic velocity and instantaneous acceleration.

And the reason is that time is moving differently for people inside the bubble

versus people outside the bubble. Whoever's inside the craft would feel

they're just cruising along. They wouldn't be feeling the effects of what

like speeds and accelerations that would turn a human being into pudding.

This one breakthrough can be the key to interstellar travel, where you want to

travel long distances without taking enormous amounts of subjective time.

We'd also have low observability because the bubble acts as a barrier between

two space -time environments.

This would eliminate or conceal most of the known signatures of conventional

technology. This is why radar would have difficulty tracking a craft, because

the signal from the radar would be distorted by the energy field around the

craft. The radar signatures literally just move around the bubble and doesn't

reflect back to the radar emitter. So it's not surprising when someone takes a

photo of a UAP, they finally get a... fuzzy and distorted picture because

they're actually taking a photo through a space -time barrier.

What's been happening recently is that we have upgraded our sensor systems on

our fighter aircraft.

And these images that are now picked up with our advanced sensor systems, we can

begin to see the actual structure of the energy field around the craft, which in

the past they would not have been able to do.

We also observe transmedium travel because the craft is moving within its

space -time and the outside environment through which it's moving is

inconsequential. This would allow a craft to go seamlessly from space

the atmosphere and into the water.

And they could do so because the warp bubble that surrounds them shunts air

molecules or ocean water molecules around the craft so that it could move

effortlessly through any medium.

We also observe anti -gravity because the Earth's gravitational field is no

longer having any effect on the craft inside its space -time bubble.

This is why a craft does not need, say, engines or wings or...

other aspects that we would associate it with a craft that needs to fly in the

atmosphere. It's really disconnected from the atmosphere.

And the energy field associated with these craft causes a highly energetic

of radiation, which is why people getting too close to UAP can experience

biological effects that are harmful to humans.

Now that we understand that these craft exist in...

a space -time environment that's different from the exterior space -time

environment. This can begin to explain claimed observations by, say, military

people who have approached and gotten into a craft and find that time is

at a different rate inside the craft than time running outside the craft.

They think they're only there for a few minutes, and they come outside the

craft. Some hours have gone by, so they feel like they've got missing time.

Or similarly, with respect to the size of the craft, if someone is outside the

craft and looks like a small craft, and they go inside, it's the size of a

football stadium. Once you've realized that space and time are being engineered

to be different, inside the craft than they are outside the craft, then these

anomalies that people report that sound completely absurd can actually make

sense.

The top issue is what is their energy supply?

because the evidence for how much energy they're using per unit time so exceeds

any kind of power levels that we can generate.

UAPs have exhibited propulsive performance characteristics that imply

generation of 1 ,100 billion watts of power. This is more than 100 times the

daily electrical utility power generated in the U .S. Let that sink in.

100 times.

the daily power generation of the entire nation.

There are two prevailing hypotheses for how UAPs create the energy that warps

space -time around them. And one is that the spacecraft can produce its own

bubble of vacuum energy around the craft, which is also known as zero

energy. And the other one is that The craft could be using quantum

to draw on a remote distance source of energy.

If we can understand the technology that we're observing, it has so many

potentially beneficial impacts, including clean energy.

We're seeing these craft doing unbelievable things, and it's not

engineering.

This is technology that could replace oil, gas, and coal, and protect our

planet for future generations.

How can we use these technologies and all the capabilities that might come

it, not to fight a war, but to increase our standard of living, to increase our

ability to get from place to place? We can talk more about teleportation. We

could talk more about hypersonic travel. Being able to take human beings to the

next evolutionary step, which is the stars. Being able to explore new star

systems and planets.

On the other hand, you'd have to weigh the consequences of sharing with the

world, knowing that there are bad actors out there. If our adversaries would

have access to that same technology, they could flip that into some very,

powerful weapons of mass destruction.

You could put a nuclear bomb inside one of these things and let it fly, ride it

through a building, through concrete, through steel, wherever you want it,

anywhere in the world. We want to talk about it publicly and encourage folks to

talk about it.

While we're talking about it publicly, our adversaries are paying attention to

context clues, to piece things together about possible technologies that we may

have that they don't have access to. So it's a fine line.

I would opt for making any new energy source a humanitarian

issue, that it should be open.

And we know how to do that. We've done that with nuclear power. If the

capabilities that exist...

come to the forefront and they become known to the world, it might very well

that it is to the benefit of mankind.

While Congress had learned a great deal about the legacy program, whistleblowers

were still afraid to reveal the most secretive details about the UAP

and non -human bodies in the program's possession.

We've been interviewing folks that would have had evidence of or first -hand

direct contact with either materials or a program itself.

They have worked on craft, out -of -this -world origin.

But until they leak a video before they commit suicide

by shooting themselves in the back of the head four times, I just don't know

that that's going to get out.

Those people whose job it is to make sure information doesn't get out will

whatever tool they can find to try to convince people they shouldn't come

forward. We have people that have very high clearances, both today and in the

past, who did really important work for our government or continue to do

important work for the government, who have come forward with some claims about

the U .S. having in the past recovered exotic materials and then reverse

engineered those materials to make advances in our own defenses and

And that they signed agreements that...

They would face jail time or, in some cases, some people claim it would cost

them their lives if they spoke out about these things. When I have a

whistleblower coming forward telling me that they are in fear of their life and

that people have been hurt protecting and hiding this information, that gives

reason for concern.

Determined to get to the truth, it was Chris Mellon who led the charge to help

Congress draft unprecedented UAP whistleblower protections.

And in December of 2022, President Biden signed the legislation into law.

So even for those who signed NDAs, they still have a right and an opportunity to

talk about this in a very healthy and productive way that informs the American

public.

Bombshell claims from a military whistleblower. UFO wreckage recovered by

.S. kept classified by a secret government program for decades.

The UAP task force has refused access to a broad crash retrieval program.

Retrieving non -human origin technical vehicles, you know, call it spacecraft

you will, non -human, exotic origin vehicles that have either landed or

I handpicked Dave Rush to be part of my UAP task force.

Everything that Dave uncovered is true, but it barely scratches the surface.

There's a sophisticated disinformation campaign targeting the U .S. populace,

which is extremely unethical and immoral. Have people been killed to

secret? That was an ongoing concern.

Dave has been working tirelessly behind the scenes with Congress as well. And

we were really poking the bear. We were making a lot of progress. We were

getting a lot of information to Congress.

And it wasn't necessarily symbiotic with the legacy program and their desires.

I remember one evening I was sitting with my wife on the front porch,

and I received a call.

I recognized the voice of a friend of mine, and he happened to be one of the

staffers on the Hill.

And he was very shooken up and said, listen, we had a very interesting

on the Hill.

extremely senior person in the U .S. government, in the intelligence

told Congress, for the record, that there was a committee of 27 individuals,

I'm not going to go into code names here, that were mulling over the idea of

using extreme measures to silence David and myself.

Kill us.

Now, people say, oh, come on, that's a conspiracy.

No, it's not.

We have done it before.

Under certain circumstances, we have killed Americans without due process.

If they are a clear and present national security threat, we can kill Americans.

Now, it's not done very often, but we can.

Without a fair trial, they just disappear, right?

So here I am.

If I wind up in a month from now floating in the Potomac somewhere, you

what happened.

You know what happened. This is the truth.

What else you want to know?

Last year, the House Intelligence Committee held a hearing on UAPs. They

in some Pentagon bureaucrats who only had two answers to the questions they

asked. I don't know, or that's classified.

This hearing is going to be different. This time, we had credible witnesses

testifying before Congress and American people under oath.

This was a tremendously proud moment for my colleagues and myself to watch the

fire that we started continue to grow. The subcommittee hearing on unidentified

anomalous phenomena, or UAPs, will come to order.

The reality is the American public deserves to know.

And you better be careful about a government that doesn't trust its

because there's no telling what they'll pull on you. It's really important that

we're hearing it in a bipartisan way.

to have this conversation, which really, to the heart of it, is about national

security. The American public has a right to learn about technologies of

origin, non -human intelligence, and unexplainable phenomena.

You solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the

truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help you God.

Yes, sir.

I was informed in the course of my official duties.

of a multi -decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program.

I am hopeful that my actions will ultimately lead to a positive outcome of

increased transparency.

We were primarily seeing dark gray or black cubes inside of a clear sphere

the apex or tips of the cube were touching the inside of that sphere.

Since the events initially occurred, I've learned that the objects have been

detected essentially where all operations, Navy operations are being

across the world.

These objects had been observed for over two weeks, coming down from over 80

,000 feet, rapidly descending to 20 ,000 feet, hanging out for hours, and then

going straight back up. It wasn't until 2009 until Jay Stratton had contacted me

to investigate.

Unbeknownst to all, he was part of the ATIC program and the Pentagon.

Are you aware of any individuals that are participating in reverse engineering

programs for non -terrestrial craft?

Personally, yes.

Do you believe that our government is in possession of UAPs? I know the exact

locations. I actually had the people with the firsthand knowledge.

provide a protected disclosure to the inspector general. Do we have the bodies

of the pilots who piloted this craft?

Biologics came with some of these recoveries, yeah. Non -human biologics.

Non -human. I was wondering if you could speak a little bit about the

interaction between defense contractor companies and any UAP -related programs

or activities.

The contractors, you know, are the metal benders, so to speak. They're the ones

actually... doing specific performance on government contracts.

How does a program like that get funded?

Misappropriation of funds.

Does that mean that there is money in the budget that is said to go to a

program, but it doesn't, and it goes to something else? Yes, I have specific

knowledge of that. Mr.

Graves and Fravor, in the event that your encounters have become hostile,

you have had the capability to defend yourself?

Absolutely not, sir.

No.

What we experienced was well beyond the material science and the capabilities

that we had at the time that we have currently or that we're going to have in

the next 10 to 20 years. We have nothing that can stop in midair and go the

other direction, nor do we have anything that can, like in our situation, come

down from space, hang out for three hours, and go back up. Is it possible

these UAPs would be probing our capabilities? Yes.

Yes, definitely.

Do you have any personal knowledge of people who have been harmed or injured?

In efforts to cover up or conceal these extraterrestrial technology?

Yes.

Personally.

Anyone been murdered that you know of? I have to be careful. I directed people

with that knowledge to the appropriate authorities.

There clearly is a threat to the national security of the United States

America. Brave witnesses here. They took an oath to uphold the Constitution of

the United States, and they're doing it.

And we owe them a debt of gratitude.

On Capitol Hill today, a bipartisan call for more government transparency on

UFOs.

One was asked about alien bodies. Two others talked about seeing UAPs.

The U .S. government operates a UFO crash retrieval program and has a UFO

the remains of, quote, a non -human or non -human pilot in it.

And when Dave Grush said the word non -human biologics, there was an audible

gasp. I worked with David Grush when we both contributed to the UAP task force.

And everything he said under oath to the Congress and what he put down in his

whistleblower complaint is 100 percent true.

A Pentagon report is detailing a dramatic increase in UFO sightings. The

Pentagon released its report on UFO sightings today, saying an additional

sightings have been investigated since 2021.

Now the Defense Department is admitting not just a couple of incidents, hundreds

of incidents, scores of incidents with multiple sensor systems, multiple

witnesses. A NASA task force is holding its first meeting on UFOs. NASA

commissioned an independent study team to examine unidentified anomalous

phenomena. And this is the first time that NASA has taken concrete action to

seriously look into UAPD. Are we alone?

Personally, I don't think we are. I wasn't prepared for the number of

that I see. This emerging capability outstrips the operational framework that

have to address it.

Since mankind first started developing atomic energy, there has been consistent

UAP activity at sites involved with the atomic and nuclear process.

We have evolved more technically in the last 80 years than we have in the

previous 200 ,000 years.

And the uptick in UAP activity has increased in line with our advancement

harnessing energy.

We realize we are on the path to exploiting the energy levels needed to

space -time, and UAP have been observing and clearly been interested in our

rapid progress.

Despite developing massively new technologies, we don't see an equivalent

moral increase in how we deal with each other.

We are still invading sovereign nations.

We're still threatening nuclear war 80 years after dropping atomic bombs that

vaporized hundreds of thousands of human beings.

Let's face it, we are a violent species.

So if I were a species from somewhere else...

even if I were a hidden species on the planet, who saw how we were coming up

this curve of atomic energy and nuclear energy and then began to realize

what it takes to do their kind of technologies with warping time and

space and so on.

I can imagine that could be seen as a threat to another species because they

would recognize that, well, it's only a matter of time and they're going to be

doing what we're doing and then we're going to have to deal with them. So it

doesn't surprise me that their highest priority would be to identify what

threats they might face and learn everything about them. This pattern of

activity seems to me utterly logical.

It seems to me to be the extension of the evolutionary process that governs

life. writ large as we know it which is self -preservation is number one when i

hear stories of either nuclear weapon sites being shut down or turned on what

that tells me is something quite interesting first off is that something

technology capable of reaching into our nuclear weapons systems at a distance in

ways that we don't understand okay that's just

But if you ask the question about intent, at the very least what it tells

that they're showing us what they can do to us at will or with us or they can

stop us. Now, they didn't stop us from blowing something up in Japan.

They didn't stop the first of the bombs.

So at some level, they're willing to let us see the consequences of our actions.

But at another level, they're willing to also show us that.

You might think that you could hurt us one day, but you can't. We really can

just reach in and stop you or cause you to blow each other up because at the end

of the day you're getting in our way and you're really starting to annoy us.

So even though it has been reported that some of our fighter pilots have chased

these objects and even fired missiles at them.

there has not been some kind of strong negative retaliation. So it would be

pretty easy to come to the conclusion they're friendly and that's fine and

there's no real threat there.

But the truth of the matter is you have to take into account, well, under what

condition that might change.

For example, if you have ants at the back of your yard, they're not a threat

you, so that's fine. But if they come and invade your house, suddenly they're

threat.

It could be the same in this situation. So at least within the defense and

intelligence industry, we automatically assume the worst because we want to be

prepared against the worst if it should happen. There's a concern within the

defense and intelligence communities that UAPs have been undertaking long

surveillance of human technological advancement for the possibility that

may need to intervene.

to prevent a conflict between us and them. One of the reasons that I am so

ardent about this issue is because I think it has the potential to change the

perspective and the outlook of world leaders and the populations of those

countries to see more of what we have in common and the challenges that we face

together. If we're going to survive as a species,

We need unprecedented levels of international collaboration.

I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish

if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world.

Thomas Jefferson once said, I'm not an advocate for frequent changes in laws

constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress

of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new

discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions

With the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep

with the times.

Our current Senate leadership feels the same as our founding fathers.

And throughout the fall of 2023, my colleagues and I met with Senate

to help give them clarity on the facts as they fought for the most historic UAP

legislation we've ever had.

Never in the history of our nation have we ever seen any type of legislation

regarding UAP that is as detailed and specific and as directive as this one.

The United States government has gathered a great deal of information

over many decades but has refused to share it with the American people. That

wrong, and additionally, it breeds mistrust.

There is, we believe, information and data that has been collected by more

just... the Department of Defense, but by other agencies of the federal

government as well. Information on UAP has also been withheld from Congress,

which was a violation of the laws requiring full notification to the

branch. The bill I worked on with Senator Rounds offered a common -sense

solution.

The Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act. This would be the most

aggressive measure that we've frankly ever seen in history when it comes to

disclosure about what the government knows and has as it relates to UAP. The

measure would also give the federal government control over all recovered

technologies of unknown origin and biological evidence of non -human

intelligence eminent domain.

allows the U .S. government to take control of anything for national

reasons or for the betterment of the American people. A requirement as a

transparency measure for the government to obtain any recovered UAP material or

biological remains that may have been provided to private entities in the past

and thereby hidden from Congress and the American people. The eminent domain

section was not crafted.

It was designed to be put in there clearly to lay out our expectations.

Contractors may have information that they have held or materials that they

held over an extended period of time.

And this is our way of addressing it and making it clear that it should be

delivered in an appropriate fashion and that they need to be negotiating with us

now. Their bipartisan plan for more transparency is getting some major

though.

Defense contractors give money legally to a lot of my colleagues that provide

a great deal of the pushback on this. There's a lot of money coming from the

defense industry to support elected officials with their campaigns. And then

when the time comes for these elected officials to try to get to the bottom of

things, they're compromised.

Something with the capabilities of traveling light years, not showing.

A heat signature and the energy capabilities of that, that would put the

Pentagon out of business. We wouldn't be fighting these worthless wars overseas

over oil, and American boys and girls wouldn't be dying. It would put the war

pigs out of business.

Unfortunately, there was too much resistance, and the most historic

the proposed legislation did not become law.

We've got a big mess on our hands. We've got 80 years of lies and deception

that, quite frankly, ruined a lot of people's lives. And nobody wants to take

responsibility for that. This is not an endeavor here to go out and punish

anyone. But nonetheless, we would need to know what they've learned.

Taxpayers paid for this. And I think offering amnesty is extremely important.

Let the past stay the past, then collectively move forward. It's

keep working on our proposal.

I'd like to just acknowledge my dear friend.

the late Harry Reid, a mentor who cared about this issue a great deal. So he's

looking down and smiling on us, but he's also importuning us to get the rest of

this done, which we will do everything we can to make happen. But where there

was smoke, there was a fire. And Congress is now aware of it. And so what

allows us to do is circle the wagons and try again.

Welcome to today's historic hearing.

There are certain individuals who didn't want this hearing to happen because

they feared what might be disclosed.

I

do.

Yes.

Yes.

Excessive secrecy has led to grave misdeeds against loyal civil servants,

military personnel, and the public, all to hide the fact that we are not alone

in the cosmos.

The U .S. is in possession of UAP technologies, as are some of our

We are in the midst of a multi -decade secretive arms race, one funded by

misallocated taxpayer dollars and hidden from our elected representatives and

oversight bodies.

Now that we know UAP are interacting with humanity, we should not turn a

eye, but instead boldly face this new reality and learn from it. One of the

important actions that can be taken relative to exposing the truth of UAP is

combat the stigma.

NASA personnel stepping forward and participating in such discussions would

a powerful statement to the scientific community that UAP should be taken

seriously and researched accordingly.

To the incoming administration and Congress, I say to you, we need

public transparency.

And this hearing is an important step on that journey. The truth is out there.

We just need to be bold enough.

and brave enough to face it.

America wants their pizzas in 30 minutes or less, and that's about our attention

span. I think the legacy program is that they think that America will

draw its attention somewhere else, and I just don't think that's the case. I

think we've lit the fuse.

I think the American people are ready.

to receive the truth.

Sitting here in a Senate building, recognizing what change has

been occurring, I never thought I'd see this day come, frankly.

And now that I see it here, I am unbelievably hopeful that it's

going to filter down into our society.

to where everyone realizes that the human species is actually in a melting

of many species throughout the galaxy. What I expect to come out of that is,

first of all, a greater appreciation of what it means to be a human.

And to me, that kind of change on the human character is probably more

significant than what we can learn about.

atoms and molecules and propulsion systems, my grandchildren are going to

up taking into account and thinking about the fact that the universe is full

life. We're on the threshold of an entirely different understanding of the

universe and our place within it and technological opportunities and

possibilities that were the stuff of science fiction just a few years ago.

The people behind the Legacy program truly believe that the secret is so

that they can't share it with the American people.

There may be aspects of this that are so intense they can't share it. However, I

think the basic fact that we are not alone in the universe, we can share that

with the American people. We can handle it at this point.

Hopefully, one day, the American people will learn the bigger story and how it

impacts us all.

I want to tell the American people what I know.

But I can't because a vast majority of it remains highly classified. I feel

tremendous pressure to share what I can because I know there will come a time

where we all wish we had done things differently.

That moment is imminent.

And when that moment comes, I know people will say, I wish somebody would

told me sooner.

Remember, as far as we've come, We are still only just beginning the greatest

paradigm shift in human history, the age of disclosure.