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Tonight on the curse of Oak Island a
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deal with Nolan how does that strike it
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with mixed emotions it's time to quit
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the fighting I don't want to be an
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obstacle anymore welcome to the team
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ready to put it in the ground Fred right
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on your spot
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that looks like you it's definitely
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man-made
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there's a cavity in this slate and that
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would be the most important discovery
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monocot right there
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that's definitely Madame
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there is an island in the North Atlantic
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where people have been looking for an
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incredible treasure for more than 200
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years so far they have found bits of
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gold chain a stone slab with strange
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symbols carved into it
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even a 17th century Spanish coin to date
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six men have died trying to solve the
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mystery
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and according to legend one more will
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have to die before the treasure
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on the mainland a short distance from
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the causeway that leads to Oak Island an
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important meeting is about to take place
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between Rick and Marty lagina and a man
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who has so far been shy to aid them in
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their search for treasure good come on
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in okay got everybody lined up here
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everybody's here yep okay I got you the
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best seat in the house oh there you go
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I can't complain for the laginas and
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their partners the meeting offers the
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possibility of both an end and a
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beginning an end to a decades-old feud
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with their Oak Island partner and fellow
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treasure hunter dan Blankenship and the
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beginning of a new era of cooperation
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and collaboration one which they hope
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will lead to solving a 220 year old
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mystery
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well I just want to say Fred thanks for
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you know coming on board we're eager to
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work with you because we know you have
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some sights over the years and you're
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talking many years 40 almost 50 years
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were two competing individuals and that
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was a competition in my mind's eye and
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I'm not saying I'm correct in that
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analysis but they were competing to
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solve the Oak Island mystery
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a land surveyor by trade Fred Nolan
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first visited Oak Island in 1958 after
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reading a book entitled B Oak Island
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mystery by Reginald Harris in 1961
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landowner Mr Chappell invited Nolan to
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come and survey the 140 acre Island
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while conducting his work he became
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convinced that the stories of buried
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treasure were true especially after
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observing and measuring several
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mysterious stone carvings and other
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markers that seemed to be hundreds of
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years old after buying land on the
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island in 1963 Fred spent the next
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several years actively engaged in the
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treasure hunt
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he even cooperated with rival treasure
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hunters dan Blankenship and David Tobias
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that is until further disputes over land
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caused the relationship to deteriorate
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into a series of bitter feuds and near
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violent confrontations I had learned
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over the years of a very rancorous and
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fractious relationship between mr.
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Blankenship and mr. Nolan and so my
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desire was I think it was our desire to
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heal the island to try to get a working
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relationship between ourselves because
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Dan is our partner and mr. Nolan so it's
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time to quit the fighting and cooperate
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right well
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it hasn't accomplished much no
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infighting yeah I don't want to be an
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obstacle anymore you know I'm yeah I'm
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too old for that now just a few days
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earlier Rick Marty and Craig tester met
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with dan Blankenship and his son day in
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order to get Dan's blessing on a deal to
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work with Fred so a deal with Nolan how
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does that strike you with mixed emotions
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to be quite honest with you because
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after all I've had dealings with Nolan
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than the past and the fact that you're
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even neighbors of didn't like him to
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sign something is very impressive to say
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the least we're really happy about this
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because it allows us to explore the
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whole island now the main thing on Oak
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Island far as I'm concerned is making a
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breakthrough right right you've got
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several sites you want to drill right
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we're gonna drill them together yeah
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yeah okay and you document it at all you
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got it all on a map we got a bat super
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we surveyed the whole island all right
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one evident and regretted it pops back
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and forth you know
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so anything that was around we picked up
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look I've known trust for eight years
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and I have asked him pointedly many
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times Fred what's your theory and he's
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always either politely or indelicately
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refused when the American Revolution
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starts the British general Astana and
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all this treasure done in Boston and
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they said well we're not gonna leave
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this treasure here so they sailed it all
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off to Halifax they knew it was safe
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there because Halifax was strongly
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British there's the 14th colony yet yeah
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in the late 1700s as political unrest
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was beginning to take place in the
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American colonies
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King George the third ordered his
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military generals to gather up as much
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gold silver and jewels as they could and
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send them back to England after loading
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four ships the British military sailed
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to Halifax in Nova Scotia and were
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ordered to keep the treasure under guard
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for the winter
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but according to Fred Nolan's theory a
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large portion of the precious cargo
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never made it back to the king a small
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group of officers conspired to hide it
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under by Oak Island and keep it both as
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compensation and an insurance policy
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especially if the colonists succeeded in
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gaining their independence and the
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ousted military might be forced to fend
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for themselves so where did it go nobody
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knows is the treasure still there on the
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island
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sure
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it's still there but sometimes you
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wonder if the place is full of treasure
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good let's find it
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yeah I think it's great that we're
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working together I really do I mean this
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is too big a puzzle yeah yeah an
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entirely different Fred Nolan walked in
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that door I think it finally makes sense
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to him to to look forward rather than
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backwards and that was extremely
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refreshing welcome to the team all right
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well let's quit talking let's go out in
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the field and start doing something yeah
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perfect
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Fred first of all I just want to say
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thanks for coming to the war room this
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is this is where all the magic happens
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Craig is here by high-tech high-tech yep
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okay you know we're very grateful that
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you brought your map and we'd love to
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get an understanding at least of where
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we're gonna go from here and the whys of
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it sure
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with his brother Marty away on business
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Rick lagina has invited Island resident
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and veteran treasure hunter Fred Nolan
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to join him and several members of the
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team for an important meeting because
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now that they've agreed to work together
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fred has finally offered to share many
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of his maps and artifacts along with
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much of his most closely guarded
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information it's Fred Nolan the man who
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spent 50 years of his life pursuing this
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sharing with us his 50 years of
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discovery that's amazing how many years
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work is this map represents 40 50 years
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Wow
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fred has data that we do not have and we
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cannot recreate fred was here in I don't
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know the earliest days but surely by 58
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he was here and he brought his skill set
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unlike anyone else in the 220-year
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search Fred Nolan first began actively
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trying to solve the Oak Island mystery
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back in 1961 but unlike many of the
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treasure hunters before him friend
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believed the way to solve the mystery
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was to examine the numerous strange
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clues and carvings that could be found
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on the surface rather than focusing only
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on the money pit
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he surveyed the entire island and made
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detailed maps such as this one that
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marked the location of dozens of
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mysterious stone markers there are a lot
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of marks like these ones here there
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boulders I think we know what they mean
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but we're not sure because here's the
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big boys here it is if there's anything
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down there
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there's got to be something here this
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point is one of the places where we
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intend to drill right yeah that's a hot
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spot okay you know I've been at it for
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so long now mm-hmm
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and if I didn't relate this kind of
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stuff who would put it together again
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exactly we're very grateful for your
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work I mean it's it's an incredible
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commitment of time energy resources
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money you're staring at it right here
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it's immaculate and this is only one of
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what 104 mmm
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104 yep but you're convinced that this
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point is where we should look next yep
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then let's head off get a good night's
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sleep and get back at it tomorrow what
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do you say I gotta ask my wife
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shortly after Marty's return the Oak
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Island team arrives at an area on Fred's
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property located near the center of the
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island
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okay here comes a rig you wanted to back
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down or forward
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today this is all about mr. Nolan you
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know the fact that we have been able to
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engage in a working relationship it kind
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of is momentous order bought to actually
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engage in a discovery process I think
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we're all amped up
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while drilling in this area several
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years ago Fred Nolan believed he had
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found an underground cave or cavern some
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ten feet beneath the surface it had
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always been the 87 year old treasure
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hunters wish to revisit the area with a
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more powerful drill rig and try to
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replicate his findings now with the help
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of the laginas and their partners
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Fred's wish has come true that's quite a
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ways up there we could probably get set
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up as far as this all goes trees will be
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another another scenario although the
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area around the marked drill site is
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clear on the ground the canopy of trees
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overhead poses a real obstacle for the
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drill rig a number of branches will need
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to be cleared to bring the excavator
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down here knock those off
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you know that was just an easy way to do
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it to knock those branches off with the
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excavator
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can you get that
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all right yeah if I had taken off in
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that direction I would have gotten hit
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you shouldn't have been there to start
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with and I should have known where the
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boom was and not hit it
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it was a double mistake all's well that
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ends well yeah fine exactly 22 - lets go
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time's a-wasting
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now that the drilling rig has the room
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it needs to set up the operation can
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finally begin
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that's that right there right that
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statute here your honor
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but will the team really find evidence
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of a man-made chamber or treasure tunnel
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lying deep underground
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what we've heard about this spot is that
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it's in Slate and I don't know of any
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way a cavity can develop and slate
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naturally so if we do hit such a thing
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the odds of being man-made are very high
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in my opinion and that would be very
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exciting perfect
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couldn't get any closer one of the many
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interesting geological characteristics
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of Oak Island is the fact that each of
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its two halves are composed of two very
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different kinds of bedrock the eastern
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side where the money pit and 10x are
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located is composed of anhydride
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limestone a hard calcium based substance
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that is usually formed over a long
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period of time by the evaporation of
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salt water the western side however is
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made up of finely layered but highly
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compacted slate a low grade metamorphic
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rock that is created over time when clay
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or volcanic ash is subjected to enormous
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pressure
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unlike an hide right which can crumble
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and separate if exposed to groundwater
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slate is more highly layered and
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compacted if the team drills through
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slate and into a void it could mean they
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have located a man-made tunnel or
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chamber
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don't quote me on the verbage but this
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is a very important site fred's instead
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I've been sitting on this far too long I
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want to get this done
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oh you don't look just about ready to
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put it in the ground thread right on
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your spot
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the bedrock should be right caliber 12
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it'll be interesting
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Rick Marty and the Oak Island team have
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just begun their first joint drilling
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operation
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with Fred Nolan the man who'd like his
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rival dan Blankenship has spent the past
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five decades and much of his fortune
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trying to solve the Oak Island mystery
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according to Fred's detailed records the
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drill bit should hit a mysterious void
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after reaching a depth of approximately
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10 feet there's a cavity in this slate
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that would be the most important
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discovery
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Anoka to date
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oh six more
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you can't imagine how many hours I've
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spent hoping that a drill strain will
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drop rapidly watching the top drive come
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down the derrick you know hoping it'll
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start going like that and that would be
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as it enters a cavity
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metal could the drillbit have found
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something related to the underground
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chamber Fred Nolan believes he found on
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this site years ago in 1897 after
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finding what he believed to be a 7-foot
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tall wooden vault buried at a depth of
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153 feet inside the money pit drill
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operator William Chappell hid an
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impenetrable iron obstruction at 171
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feet both Chappell and his employer
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Frederick Blair believed that the iron
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plate could likely have been placed
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there to protect the original treasure
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vault although several efforts were made
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to excavate the area and reach both the
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wooden vault and the mysterious iron
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object repeated flooding posed an
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insurmountable problem and after two
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more years of trying the entire
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operation was abandoned in 1899
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but 10 feet or so they he thinks he
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might have hidden metal so we're gonna
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run the camera down see if you can see
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what's blocking the way in an attempt to
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determine what the drill bit is struck
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Jordan Rogers is putting a small
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high-definition camera down the hole
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which the team can monitor from the
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surface come on share share and share
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alike
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I can't tell Peter down
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that's definitely met
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the first hole we drilled the Fred
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Jordan got his rig down and at about
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eleven feet he was drilling on metal
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okay so that became promising how deep
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are you
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do you think you can pound pipe past it
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Jordan will now attempt to avoid the
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metal obstruction by drilling further
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into the slate bedrock
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we had Jordan run some casing and we
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think we got by this metal and then we
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drilled down to 30 feet and we did not
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hit any cavity so that was disappointing
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after drilling to a depth far beyond
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where Fred Nolan believes he found a
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cavity line underneath a slate layer
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Rick Marty and the team decide to change
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their entire method
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yeah I mean I think I could do it
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yesterday they're worth digging well we
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might as well put this to bed for sure
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put it for sure I I agree quick and
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we're only looking at 12 feet yeah I can
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dig that pretty quick
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I'd say this is where I want to be just
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a ball right
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we'll go ahead and start here
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my older swing achillea
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you were a surgeon
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I was sure that excavator would have no
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trouble getting down to 11 12 13 feet
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and initially it didn't I mean it's a
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very powerful machine
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we'll find that deal boys so far Marty
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has been unable to find either a slate
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covered cavern or the mysterious metal
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object that stops their drill that frog
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baby frustrated he now begins to dig on
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the other side of Jordans drill casing
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of the pipe went off that way
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shouldn't I be looking over here
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gray pants late on that side now too
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so we didn't find the metal now Oh deep
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is it okay follow that 10 12 feet I
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should be there
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so first hole we went in and to see if
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we could find this offending piece of
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metal and what didn't find it so I we
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don't know what that's all about
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that looks like you
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that look like - you wanna walk on down
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yeah
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while excavating the site on Fred
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Nolan's property near the middle of Oak
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Island the team has just found what
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could very well be an important clue was
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obviously not a piece of shale it's not
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a piece of bedrock not a stone can you
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bring it out yeah I don't know that
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means anything
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pointing thank you
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yeah definitely pointed look good bond
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Craig take a look at this very strange
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would Rick
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I mean look how nice and shaped it is
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most definitely man-made a sharpened
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piece of wood buried approximately 10
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feet underground
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it's very apparent that it was unusual
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item and then I saw where it had been
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carved into a point and it was apparent
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that you know at that depth it shouldn't
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be there
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it looks pretty well-preserved what if
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it marks something originally was cut
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off it's all we got
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okay but let's call it a night I agree
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although the team's first operation with
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Fred Nolan may not event it with a major
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breakthrough finding the piece of carved
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wood is a promising sign that their new
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cooperative agreement with him could
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soon lead to more and even greater
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discoveries
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all right Rick let's get our prize
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today's prize okay you got it
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worker they did hey now you're doing
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did you see yeah Craig you have a
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present for you interesting phone that
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about six feet down in the hole we just
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drilled I'll be done what we did over at
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Nolan's was we drilled first we hit some
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metal you found this and the metal in
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the same hole yes yes well when we dug
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with the excavator we could never find
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the metal again seesaw marks in it you
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think that means it's a real reason not
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necessarily they use songs for a long
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time Paris I mean all the wooden ship
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that they built they had the Behaim song
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near what's the chances of having
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something like that they're obviously
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shaped to be in the ground and buried
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four or five or six feet under a wooden
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post caught in such a way as to be
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driven like a stake into the ground
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could it have been some sort of marker
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put there centuries ago by the same
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people who placed nine layers of
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similarly cut wooden posts in the
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original money pit
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we don't want to find something without
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telling you I appreciate all right let
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you get back to we locket okay
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Oak Island did its usual tease you a
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little bit make you come back kind of
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like getting a really nice golf shot you
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know when you're a hacker it makes you
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come back and oak island is good at that
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here's your exercise for the day thank
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you I really appreciate that
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after a week of new investigations and
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possible breakthroughs Rick lagina is
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bringing a special guest to Oak Island
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someone who has not been there in more
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than 50 years I have so many questions
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they're gonna come not in chronological
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order I'll have to take it as it is
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David McDonald is the author of the
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January 1965 Reader's Digest article oak
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islands mysterious money pit
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the same article that not only fueled
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the childhood imaginations of Rick and
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Marty lagina but also inspired a 42 year
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old contractor from Florida named dan
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blankenship the way your article
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presented the story it was like a puzzle
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it wasn't so much a treasure hunt as a
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puzzle I would hope that that one moved
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you or would have been the general
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content of it yes what does it add up to
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exactly it still adds up to a mystery
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because of the things you don't know yes
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you mentioned that your father had
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gotten you interested in the story long
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ago well by the time I was five or six
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years old everybody in all that age
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hears about Oak Island have always known
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that there was a place where they kept
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digging for money somebody's gonna find
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it yes
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born and raised in nearby Halifax David
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MacDonald was a freelance writer when in
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1964 he was hired to do a piece on the
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search for treasure on Oak Island after
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spending several days talking with
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treasure hunter Robert Restall and his
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family he came away convinced that many
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of the various stories concerning the
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fabled treasure hunt
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were true and that the rest dolls were
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within weeks of actually solving the
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mystery here we are everyone is actually
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gathered in what we call the War Room
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you've had quite an impact on this place
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oh my that article captivated the modern
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community local enthusiasts they all
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rallied from that story that article
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changed Oak Island history here we go
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gentlemen here we go gentlemen
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I have a special guest indeed this is
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David MacDonald caused all this trouble
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see right there thank you
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after 50 years author David McDonough's
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the man who wrote the influential
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article about Oak Island in The Reader's
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Digest has returned to share his
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memories with Rick Marty and the team oh
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my stop all right well welcome to Oak
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Island thank you very much well
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there it is Wow a bomb that's the one I
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remember like yesterday reading this and
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I was fascinated as young boys growing
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up in Michigan's Upper Peninsula Rick
554
00:30:44,750 --> 00:30:47,290
and Marty lagina loved to read stories
555
00:30:47,290 --> 00:30:50,340
of mystery and adventure even though
556
00:30:50,340 --> 00:30:53,290
David MacDonald's article ran for only
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five pages the combination of the story
558
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,970
coupled with vivid graphics showing a
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00:30:58,970 --> 00:31:01,950
mysterious money pit became indelibly
560
00:31:01,950 --> 00:31:06,160
etched in rick lagina's imagination
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00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,020
what's a bigger mystery than Oak Island
562
00:31:08,020 --> 00:31:12,310
220 years of search incredible
563
00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:14,820
possibilities in terms of the solution
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00:31:14,820 --> 00:31:16,970
mystery wonderment questioning I mean
565
00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:18,720
that's what grabbed me when I read that
566
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,030
article and here was the guy who
567
00:31:21,030 --> 00:31:22,750
actually wrote The Reader's Digest
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00:31:22,750 --> 00:31:25,250
article the one that so enamored him
569
00:31:25,250 --> 00:31:28,070
when he was a young man and dragged his
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00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:30,299
younger brother along meaning me I'm
571
00:31:30,299 --> 00:31:33,090
saying I had to force-feed you that yes
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00:31:33,090 --> 00:31:36,130
that's what I'm saying it's your fault
573
00:31:36,130 --> 00:31:38,220
suppose that article had never been
574
00:31:38,220 --> 00:31:40,590
written do you think you wouldn't be
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00:31:40,590 --> 00:31:42,520
here
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00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,000
besides Saturday morning I read the
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article and I handed it back to my wife
578
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,790
and I said read this in so many words
579
00:31:51,790 --> 00:31:56,390
you said so why you know I said number
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00:31:56,390 --> 00:31:58,880
one I said there's treasure on Oak
581
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,700
Island number two I said I'm gonna be
582
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:04,299
instrumental in getting it beginning
583
00:32:04,299 --> 00:32:06,080
your story but not the end
584
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,480
no the ends not written yet yeah so what
585
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,179
led you to write that story
586
00:32:12,179 --> 00:32:13,900
I've always wondered that had you been
587
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:16,010
writing for The Reader's Digest I had
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00:32:16,010 --> 00:32:18,440
done a couple of pieces for them and
589
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,760
they wanted me to do a piece on Oak
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00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,760
Island
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00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,110
so I researched Oak Island I do know
592
00:32:24,110 --> 00:32:26,191
that you met the restaurant and they're
593
00:32:26,191 --> 00:32:28,600
the first ones I met oh yes I'm at the
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00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,600
Rex halls
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00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,660
what were your impressions of the rest
596
00:32:31,660 --> 00:32:35,140
all's well I think he was he was very
597
00:32:35,140 --> 00:32:38,380
careful about what he said I think and I
598
00:32:38,380 --> 00:32:40,861
understand that you're digging for a
599
00:32:40,861 --> 00:32:43,000
treasure and somebody's asking you
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00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,549
questions you probably want to be
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00:32:45,549 --> 00:32:49,370
careful
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00:32:48,370 --> 00:32:50,740
when David McDonald visited Oak Island
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00:32:50,740 --> 00:32:55,150
in 1964 Robert Russell and his family
604
00:32:55,150 --> 00:32:57,740
had been trying to solve the mystery for
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00:32:57,740 --> 00:33:00,840
nearly five years living in harsh
606
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,340
conditions the rest dolls worked
607
00:33:03,340 --> 00:33:06,570
tirelessly mostly focusing their work on
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00:33:06,570 --> 00:33:09,110
Smith's Cove where they found additional
609
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:11,720
evidence of the five box trains that
610
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,340
were first discovered in 18-49 Robert
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00:33:16,340 --> 00:33:19,630
and his son Bobby jr. believed they were
612
00:33:19,630 --> 00:33:22,570
very close to discovering something not
613
00:33:22,570 --> 00:33:26,830
only of great monetary value but also of
614
00:33:26,830 --> 00:33:28,600
extraordinary historical significance
615
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:34,480
but on August 17th 1965 just eight
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00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,710
months following the publication of
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00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:39,570
David MacDonald's article Robert rest
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00:33:39,570 --> 00:33:42,090
all his son and two members of their
619
00:33:42,090 --> 00:33:45,510
team died after being exposed to deadly
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00:33:45,510 --> 00:33:48,950
h2s gas in one of oak islands many mine
621
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:51,799
shafts
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00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:55,850
we've played a small role in this but
623
00:33:55,850 --> 00:33:57,470
the people who have committed their
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00:33:57,470 --> 00:34:01,080
lives passions energies monies the
625
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,580
restaurants who paid the ultimate price
626
00:34:03,580 --> 00:34:08,700
I think they've not gotten their due
627
00:34:08,700 --> 00:34:10,819
well David you didn't change the history
628
00:34:10,819 --> 00:34:12,319
of the world probably but you certainly
629
00:34:12,319 --> 00:34:14,529
changed the history of Oak Island yeah
630
00:34:14,529 --> 00:34:16,319
there's no question about that things
631
00:34:16,319 --> 00:34:18,039
would be a lot different had this not
632
00:34:18,039 --> 00:34:21,259
been written I guess yes well you're
633
00:34:21,259 --> 00:34:23,221
directly responsible for these two
634
00:34:23,221 --> 00:34:25,940
characters being here for sure at the
635
00:34:25,940 --> 00:34:30,789
minimum yeah and I want to say thank you
636
00:34:30,789 --> 00:34:31,789
very much
637
00:34:31,789 --> 00:34:42,329
I never shake his hand
638
00:34:42,329 --> 00:34:57,930
we're thinking over here Marty on the
639
00:34:57,930 --> 00:35:00,160
inside
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00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:06,239
right about here
641
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,099
we're here because this is a historic
642
00:35:08,099 --> 00:35:10,079
place it's a storied place and we're
643
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:13,190
here to not only respect the past but to
644
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:15,769
respect the future in to that extent
645
00:35:15,769 --> 00:35:17,260
we're gonna put a time capsule in the
646
00:35:17,260 --> 00:35:20,250
ground at the Bicentennial memorial to
647
00:35:20,250 --> 00:35:22,220
mark the 50th anniversary of the
648
00:35:22,220 --> 00:35:24,470
Reader's Digest article that changed
649
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:27,230
their lives as well as the two hundred
650
00:35:27,230 --> 00:35:29,190
and twentieth year of the oak island
651
00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:32,279
treasure hunt Rick and Marty lagina
652
00:35:32,279 --> 00:35:34,579
along with their partners have decided
653
00:35:34,579 --> 00:35:36,749
to gather near the causeway at the
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00:35:36,749 --> 00:35:41,420
islands entrance I think first of all we
655
00:35:41,420 --> 00:35:45,079
all my opinion a collective thank you to
656
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:47,729
David for writing that article because
657
00:35:47,729 --> 00:35:50,200
he's the reason why we are all here I
658
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:55,130
think then let's thank Daniel for paving
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00:35:55,130 --> 00:36:01,200
the way yes I agree it's appealing
660
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,349
leaving a signature if you will for
661
00:36:04,349 --> 00:36:05,910
someone else to read fifty years from
662
00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:09,359
now it's appealing using a piece of
663
00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:11,900
drill casing that dave blankenship has
664
00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:14,869
fabricated into a time capsule each
665
00:36:14,869 --> 00:36:17,329
member of the Oak Island team makes a
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00:36:17,329 --> 00:36:19,670
contribution they hope a future
667
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:21,329
generation might find
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00:36:21,329 --> 00:36:24,450
well I'm always always waiting for crown
669
00:36:24,450 --> 00:36:32,799
time so I'm giving somebody some crowns
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00:36:32,799 --> 00:36:34,599
okay here's mine this says from Martin G
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00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:37,690
lagina to the future I have made several
672
00:36:37,690 --> 00:36:39,170
predictions about what the world will
673
00:36:39,170 --> 00:36:41,640
look like and I'm asking whoever finds
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00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,320
it to send this to my kids and I've
675
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,009
enclosed $10 Canadian for postage and
676
00:36:47,009 --> 00:36:54,349
handling I will insert it well this is a
677
00:36:54,349 --> 00:36:58,920
copy of the digest with the article in
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00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,299
this my goodness
679
00:37:00,299 --> 00:37:03,210
and it's the American cop but it still
680
00:37:03,210 --> 00:37:10,519
got a few true words yeah I guess now
681
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:12,430
it's my turn but I'm gonna kind of I've
682
00:37:12,430 --> 00:37:13,970
thought about it for a long time and I'm
683
00:37:13,970 --> 00:37:15,690
gonna kind of break tradition because I
684
00:37:15,690 --> 00:37:18,519
kind of wrote a little letter it's it's
685
00:37:18,519 --> 00:37:20,289
to the people that will open this and
686
00:37:20,289 --> 00:37:24,200
it's it's to all of us it says dear Oak
687
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,019
Island searchers we have met so many
688
00:37:26,019 --> 00:37:27,799
gracious and wonderful people it is
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00:37:27,799 --> 00:37:30,099
impossible to acknowledge and thank
690
00:37:30,099 --> 00:37:32,710
everyone though I would try especially
691
00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:33,710
wish to say to
692
00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:40,170
my brother and friend that I and I do
693
00:37:40,170 --> 00:37:42,489
not use the term lightly I treasure this
694
00:37:42,489 --> 00:37:46,039
time we have spent together to Darrin
695
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:47,210
blowing could ship by fuel
696
00:37:47,210 --> 00:37:52,369
if y'all have known in my whole life and
697
00:37:52,369 --> 00:37:54,650
thank you for allowing me into your
698
00:37:54,650 --> 00:37:57,830
special world to david blankenship i can
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00:37:57,830 --> 00:38:02,000
say many things not all good however it
700
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,759
is most important to me that i call you
701
00:38:03,759 --> 00:38:06,279
my friend and I hope you considered me
702
00:38:06,279 --> 00:38:09,579
yours I conclude by wishing you and
703
00:38:09,579 --> 00:38:11,920
yours meaning the people who open this
704
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,950
the best of luck and good wishes as the
705
00:38:13,950 --> 00:38:17,239
Ojai story continues to evolve take care
706
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,729
of one another as that is the real
707
00:38:18,729 --> 00:38:19,729
treasure in life
708
00:38:19,729 --> 00:38:38,539
ciao if we don't succeed and somebody
709
00:38:38,539 --> 00:38:40,220
looks at those items fifty years from
710
00:38:40,220 --> 00:38:42,569
now I I would hope they realize that
711
00:38:42,569 --> 00:38:44,229
there is an emotional component to this
712
00:38:44,229 --> 00:38:46,720
this isn't just a treasure hunt it's not
713
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:49,330
just about recovering wealth there's an
714
00:38:49,330 --> 00:38:51,579
emotional component to this and I would
715
00:38:51,579 --> 00:38:54,569
hope that by looking at those items they
716
00:38:54,569 --> 00:38:57,470
would connect in that way
717
00:38:57,470 --> 00:38:59,630
now that everyone has placed an item
718
00:38:59,630 --> 00:39:02,749
into the time capsule dave blankenship
719
00:39:02,749 --> 00:39:04,410
welds it closed
720
00:39:04,410 --> 00:39:06,869
keeping it airtight for what could be
721
00:39:06,869 --> 00:39:09,279
its next several decades underground
722
00:39:09,279 --> 00:39:13,230
okay Rick don't know see young guys do
723
00:39:13,230 --> 00:39:16,940
it all right I like that
724
00:39:16,940 --> 00:39:21,009
I thought it was a very appropriate
725
00:39:21,009 --> 00:39:22,559
putting it by the Bicentennial Memorial
726
00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:24,930
I mean what more appropriate place could
727
00:39:24,930 --> 00:39:25,930
there be
728
00:39:25,930 --> 00:39:27,249
you know people come when they come on
729
00:39:27,249 --> 00:39:29,279
these tours they go to that Manya and
730
00:39:29,279 --> 00:39:33,039
they realize just how much time I mean
731
00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:34,960
the world's longest-running treasure
732
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,670
hunt you know why not put it there
733
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:39,279
okay I think our work here is done
734
00:39:39,279 --> 00:39:41,619
gentlemen at Lisa well done let's have a
735
00:39:41,619 --> 00:39:47,700
round of applause for us shall we Rick -
736
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:50,119
fifty years from now
737
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:53,880
done done I think ultimately the old
738
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,069
kind of mystery will be solved every
739
00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:58,660
time you put shovel the earth every time
740
00:39:58,660 --> 00:40:01,999
the drill bites soil you think okay this
741
00:40:01,999 --> 00:40:04,950
could be it it's taken a lot longer than
742
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:07,190
I thought and it's harder than I thought
743
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:11,900
this nut is hard to crack but so what
744
00:40:11,900 --> 00:40:16,049
and I say we are gonna get this that's
745
00:40:16,049 --> 00:40:20,270
my buddy all right fine I'll go with
746
00:40:20,270 --> 00:40:22,460
that it's that simple there we're not
747
00:40:22,460 --> 00:40:23,940
giving up
748
00:40:23,940 --> 00:40:27,089
for Rick Marty and their partners today
749
00:40:27,089 --> 00:40:29,559
marks the end of a very productive week
750
00:40:29,559 --> 00:40:32,760
not only have they forged an alliance
751
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,509
with Dan Blankenship's longtime rival
752
00:40:35,509 --> 00:40:37,869
Fred Nolan they've also made a
753
00:40:37,869 --> 00:40:40,089
potentially important discovery with
754
00:40:40,089 --> 00:40:43,630
them but now that virtually every acre
755
00:40:43,630 --> 00:40:45,790
of the island is available for them to
756
00:40:45,790 --> 00:40:49,609
explore what will they find more
757
00:40:49,609 --> 00:40:52,269
evidence of booby-trapped flood tunnels
758
00:40:52,269 --> 00:40:54,560
a man-made cavern in which lies a
759
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,770
mysterious metal chest one thing is
760
00:40:58,770 --> 00:41:02,029
certain the baton of Oak Island history
761
00:41:02,029 --> 00:41:04,619
has been passed and Rick and Marty
762
00:41:04,619 --> 00:41:08,849
lagina have now inherited 220 years of
763
00:41:08,849 --> 00:41:13,729
history and myth triumph and tragedy but
764
00:41:13,729 --> 00:41:15,269
whether the search will end with
765
00:41:15,269 --> 00:41:19,289
discovery or will remain a mystery is
766
00:41:19,289 --> 00:41:22,319
something only time and the island can
767
00:41:22,319 --> 00:41:26,799
tell
768
00:41:26,799 --> 00:41:29,619
next time on the curse of Oak Island
769
00:41:29,619 --> 00:41:31,910
there's a structure in the swamp fred
770
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:35,499
said it's somewhere between here and on
771
00:41:35,499 --> 00:41:38,239
there let's find it what do you make of
772
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,239
that right there
773
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,670
oh yeah we did find something
774
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:46,200
boom convinced it's a wreck look at all
775
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,210
the targets in your head and a line
776
00:41:48,210 --> 00:41:50,539
there's a triangle on top of the
777
00:41:50,539 --> 00:41:51,539
triangle what was the point it's
778
00:41:51,539 --> 00:41:53,650
actually pointing to the stone triangle
779
00:41:53,650 --> 00:41:54,899
on the island
780
00:41:54,923 --> 00:41:56,923
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