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Don't make a sound. Just give me the
keys.
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Come on.
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Take that watch.
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Faster. Wallet. Where's your wallet?
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It's in my briefcase, but I don't... Get
it.
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Come on, come on.
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Disparity of wealth. That's all this is.
Because you got I take from you.
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Put down the knife or your head
explodes.
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Lie down on the ground.
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You take the car. I'll walk away.
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I said lie down.
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You got me an attempted robbery, tops.
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I'm looking at six to eight. Chop to
three if I'm good. Shut your mouth. No,
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See, I think you want to hear this.
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See, if I do time, I got to come looking
for the guy responsible. That's who I
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am.
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That's right.
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You take a good long look at me.
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Don't I seem like the kind of psycho who
might come back?
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I bet you got kids, too.
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I turned around.
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Sit down over here, Bill.
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Is this the knife? It just appeared.
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Uh, dust it. Run that through ballistic
for the report.
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I just turned around.
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Bill, Bill, I'm going to have Jill check
you out. I think you might be in shock.
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Preliminary determination, intermediate
gunshot wound to the head, cause of
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death, bullets.
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It wasn't pneumonia?
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That's sarcasm. I'll note your attitude
in my report.
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Sarcasm. All right.
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Max, take him over to Jill's.
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This is the third carjacking in one
month.
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My grandma just killed a man.
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Jimmy, what are you waiting for?
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All right, fellas.
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Handle with care.
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Boom! He just pulled the trigger.
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After the guy dropped the knife?
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Oh, yes.
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They were both standing real still. The
mayor was pointing the gun. They were
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talking about something.
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Real calm.
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Then boom!
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Where were you? Standing about 50 yards
away.
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I was poised in eyewitness position.
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That's what I am, an eyewitness.
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I see. Can you get me on action news?
Howard, we know you suffered from
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Alzheimer's disease. This isn't my
Alzheimer's. I saw it.
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It was vicious.
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Details at 11.
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Howard... Boom! It happened just like
I'm telling you.
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He's right.
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If the victim had been holding the
knife, it still would have been in his
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Why? The bullet went right through the
forebrain. Look at those distal joints.
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Totally convulsed. We got massive
contractions of the carpi radialis. And
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out that abductor. Talk English, will
you? The hand would have convulsed on
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knife. My bet, the guy dropped it before
the mayor shot him.
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I just keep seeing his face.
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I close my eyes, and I keep seeing his
face.
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We've got to talk about counseling,
Bill.
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You're bound to suffer some post
-traumatic stress.
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Jimmy. Good.
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I gotta make a statement.
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The press is asking if we're linking
this guy with the two carjackings around
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Lincoln. Was it the same guy?
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I don't know.
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Jill, would you excuse us for a second?
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Sure.
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What's the matter?
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Evidence says the guy dropped his knife
before you shot him.
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I beg your pardon?
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The suspect was four feet away from you
holding no weapon when you fired.
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What?
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Is this what Crazy Howard told you?
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Confirmed by forensics.
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In your statement, you said he was
holding a knife to your throat at the
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you pulled the trigger.
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You're talking to me like I'm a suspect
or something.
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Was he holding a knife when you shot
him?
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I ask you a question.
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I can't be completely sure.
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He was trying to kill me.
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I was probably in shock.
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I can't be 100 % certain.
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What the hell are you doing?
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I think you better get yourself a
lawyer.
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I'm very good with insanity cases.
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And may I say, Bill, I've always
considered you an ideal candidate.
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This is serious. I may need your help.
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All right.
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But there are two things I need from all
my clients.
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The truth and a thousand dollar
retainer. The latter I insist on. I'm
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to hire you yet.
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I may not even need an attorney,
probably. I'm sure I don't really need a
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lawyer.
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I haven't done anything wrong.
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Why don't you tell me what happened?
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I... I told him to lie down on the
ground, and he refused.
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He kept saying that if I made him go to
jail, he'd be back.
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And he meant it.
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I could tell from the look in his eyes
this man would be back.
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I have a family. I...
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I just pulled the trigger.
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Okay, Mary, broaden your stance.
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Good. Tight pattern.
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Susan, aim for the trunk, not for the
groin.
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Chill.
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Okay, everybody.
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What's up? Well, I'm thinking about
joining the club.
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Excuse me? I figure it's a good idea to
know how, you know, just in case.
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You hate guns.
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I hate the thought of being carjacked.
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And a gun seemed to save Bill Pugin. Who
knows?
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Well, you couldn't get a carry permit
anyway.
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And Bill Pugin was guilty of illegal
possession.
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By law, you'd have to keep the gun at
home.
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Well, just the same, even if you got
caught carrying it.
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It's just a misdemeanor, right?
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The knife was dropped before he shot.
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I didn't say it wasn't.
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It's not in there, Kenny.
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There's nothing in there about the
location of the knife. I don't see
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statement. There's nothing falsified in
this report. What you left out.
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This document becomes public record.
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Meaning?
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Meaning?
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Meaning, are you sure we want to stir
things up on this?
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You redo that report.
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You list the facts in their entirety.
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Understood?
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Yes, sir.
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Kids are on their way.
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I should be here by ten o 'clock.
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Let's not be basket cases, Marjorie. We
don't want them to...
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Let's see what happens before... How can
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Jimmy arrest you?
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He knows you're not a criminal.
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He knows you.
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I don't.
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Well, there may not be an arrest.
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But let's be calm. We have to stay calm
for the kids.
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How...
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We get through this.
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don't, young lady. No ripped jeans.
You're not going to school today. I'm
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to work.
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Wambaugh lets you walk around the office
like that, exposed at the buttocks? He
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likes me to wear these. He thinks I have
sexy, ripe cheeks.
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He said that. Wambaugh said that. She's
just pushing your buttons. I don't know
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if I like you looking for a Wambaugh.
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That's a dead issue, sweetheart.
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That's so bad.
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Blue mice.
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Did you sleep at all last night?
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I don't know what to do, Jill.
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Bill Pugin's a friend of mine.
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Well, how about turning the whole thing
over to the DA and letting him decide?
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We're between district attorneys.
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Petrovic left last week for Green Bay,
and the new guy's due in here today.
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Probably going to ask me what I want to
do.
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The look in his eyes. I've seen it
before.
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Jimmy's going to get me.
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This new DA, what do you hear?
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Ah, supposed to be some up -and -comer
out of Madison. He'll probably use us as
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a cause celeb.
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Hey, you're the celebrity. Just take a
look at these papers.
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The people think you're a hero.
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Your approval rating has gone up 19
points.
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Jimmy Brock doesn't listen to public
opinion.
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If he thinks I've committed a crime, the
son of a bitch will arrest me. He meant
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son of a bitch in a good way.
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Here are the photocopies you wanted.
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Ah, thank you.
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Tell me, Kim, do you know your father's
thinking on the shooting incident?
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That's not fair, Mr. Wambaugh. You said
when you hired me that you would not be
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using me as a police snitch.
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Oh, I wouldn't ask you to encroach on
family relationships.
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The family is sacred.
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But should information fall into your
lap, well, we have an obligation to
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represent our clients zealously.
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There's a whole canon of ethics, you
know.
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Aimed directly at my head.
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I don't know what my father's thinking.
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She knows he's gonna get me.
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Ah, Jimmy couldn't think of bringing
charges that people would lynch him.
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Oh, he can't do it.
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You want me to indict the town mayor?
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You heard the facts.
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But what jury would convict?
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It's vigilantism.
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Sheriff, look, I'm new here in town. I
don't know you. I don't know the people.
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The thing is, the good guy lived.
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The bad guy died. The facts are gray. We
can basically do whatever we want.
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What I want is to uphold the law.
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I understand, Sheriff, but follow me.
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Now, on appearance, the shooting was
self -defense.
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Now, if you as the sheriff want to call
it that, I as the district attorney will
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accept that.
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I will not call it self -defense.
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Douglas Mambo, it's an honor and a
pleasure.
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Doug, you don't have an appointment.
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An appointment, what a character.
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Jimmy and I are very good friends.
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Our family spent the holidays together.
Last week, his wife, Jill, she snipped
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off a bunion off my left toe. Doug. She
didn't charge me. She was so delicate, I
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barely felt a pinch.
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That's what friends mean to each other
here in Rome. The people in this town
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very close. It's just a private
conversation.
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Well, I just came to meet our new
addition to the public sector.
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Douglas Wambo welcomes you to Rome,
Wisconsin.
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Oh, thank you.
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It's a pleasure.
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I'd like to have you over for dinner,
maybe. Doug, the district attorney and I
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are discussing business now. If there's
nothing else... Well, actually, since
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I'm here, I represent Mayor Bill Pugin.
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Not that he's charged with anything, nor
do I expect him to be. Would my
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expectations be misplaced?
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It's too soon for us to know what... Too
soon means it's not too late.
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Off the record, let me provide you with
a little free discovery.
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That is my gift to you as a welcome
present.
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I'm not looking for any gift.
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Take one anyway.
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What you're both thinking about is
stupid.
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Do you know what kind of a witness
Carter Pike is? A rumored necrophiliac
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chases tornadoes? And Howard Buss?
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I can get continuances, drag this out,
and by the time we get to trial, his
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Alzheimer's would have damaged his
brain. He wouldn't be able to talk, much
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have a memory.
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Who is this man?
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I'm Douglas Wombo, and I win my cases.
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Mayor Pugin is a beloved member of the
community, and I don't think that any
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kid in town should make a name for
himself. I don't need to make a name for
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myself.
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All I ask...
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is that we think long and hard about
what we plan to do.
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There are consequences.
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I'll call you about that dinner.
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Well, the facts will sustain the
charges, but personally, I think an
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would be futile.
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What if I do make an arrest?
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Is Mayor Pugin in?
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He's in a meeting.
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Excuse me, you can't go in there.
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We can't.
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Excuse me.
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I'm sorry, Bill.
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We're up to me.
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Don't put your hands behind your back.
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You are under arrest for the murder of
John Dunhill. You have the right to
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remain silent.
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Anything you say may and shall be used
against you.
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You have the right to an attorney.
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If you cannot afford one, one will be
provided to you by the state of
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Details remain unclear, but we can
confirm Bill Pugin, the mayor of Rome,
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Wisconsin, has just been arrested for
murder.
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Seems the people of Rome would rather
prosecute the town sheriff.
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For arresting a man everyone considers
to be a hero.
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If I'd have been the mayor, I'd have
shot the SOB. No question about it.
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Absolutely.
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Case number 9942, People v.
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William Puget.
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Douglas Wombo for the defendant, Your
Honor.
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We waive reading, but may I say for the
record, in 32 years of practice, I've
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never witnessed such a travesty of
justice.
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Quiet.
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Quiet.
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Quiet down or I'll clear the room right
now.
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John Littleton appearing for the people,
Your Honor. No request for bail, but we
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would petition for change of venue,
given the fact... We want a trial here
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Rome.
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The defendant is the mayor of the town.
And he's entitled to a jury of his
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peers. Yes, but not his close personal
friends.
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Your Honor, I take exception to that
remark.
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The district attorney is new to Rome. He
doesn't know us.
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And already he insinuates that the
people of our community are incapable of
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being trusted. I didn't say that. I
could certainly understand this young
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desire to get out of this case.
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He's probably afraid of a big murder
trial because he's inexperienced. Hey,
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not afraid of anything.
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I'm speaking as an officer of this
court, and I believe that a venue change
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in the interest of a fair trial.
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Our new friend is quite a temper.
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All right, all right, that's enough.
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If the defendant wants his day in this
court, I'm inclined to give it to him.
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Your Honor, the defendant is the mayor
of the town. His friends live here. One
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of them arrested him.
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What?
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I'm satisfied we can provide a fair
trial right here.
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Petition for venue change is denied.
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O .R. is granted. Let's set a date.
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Your Honor, the defendant stands ready
for trial now.
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Immediately? As long as these charges
are allowed to hang over his head, he is
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hurt. He wants to confront his accusers
at once.
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That's enough.
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Why?
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Counsel in chambers.
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Sheriff Brock, you too.
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If you were going to put on an insanity
defense, I need time... We're not going
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with insanity.
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We're going with self -defense.
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Police investigation done?
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Basically. This is a murder trial, Your
Honor.
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The longer this thing lives, the more
publicity it will generate.
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The bigger the circus, the tougher it'll
be to find impartial jurors.
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Two weeks.
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What? Your Honor, I request that cameras
be allowed in the courtroom.
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Why? You're asking me why? To defray
legal costs.
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Denied. We negotiated a movie of the
week deal with CBS.
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They said if they get enough documentary
footage, they'll air it during sweeps,
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which could give us a higher license
fee. Am I hearing this?
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I said denied.
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The voir dire starts Monday.
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Trial date, November on the 1st. Now,
get out.
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About dinner, I spoke to my wife. I
don't want to have dinner.
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A man has to eat.
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My wife makes a wonderful brisket.
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It's her specialty.
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Sheriff Brock.
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Do you have any idea what you've done?
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The job.
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That's what I do as sheriff. That's what
you do as deputy.
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I did my job.
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Did you tell the mayor that if it were
up to you, an arrest would not be made?
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Did you tell him that? I don't think
he's a criminal.
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I won't stand for insubordination any
more than I will vigilantism.
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I meant no disrespect to you, Jimmy.
It's just that... Just what?
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You see the statistics?
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Crime's rising. We can't stop it.
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People these days, they have to start
protecting themselves.
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Ten years ago, it was lock your front
door.
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Five years ago, install an alarm.
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Maybe today it's buy a gun.
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Very good point. I'll put it in my
opening.
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I can't believe you're representing Bill
Pugin. You two don't like each other.
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Exactly why he wants me. The whole town
knows that I think he's a schmuck.
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For me, the defender must mean that I
think he's innocent.
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So that's why he wants you.
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Why'd you say yes?
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He is innocent.
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This is the big time, Miriam.
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This is my chance.
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You remember why I left New York?
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They all laughed at me there.
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When will you stop having to prove
yourself?
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I'm not trying to prove myself.
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He broke the law.
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If anything, it's because he's the
mayor.
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If I made such a public exception, that
wouldn't serve the town.
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But arresting him has ripped the town
apart, Jimmy.
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Most people saw it as self -defense.
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You could have let it be.
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I couldn't let it be.
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I'll look up inside.
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At this point, we don't know who will be
taking a stand
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first. Speculation. We've learned
virtually nothing about the defense
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It's anticipated that Mayor... You know,
of course, that the mayor has been
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completely silent so far on the advice
of his attorney. But it would be
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impossible to prevail on a self -defense
strategy without hearing his account.
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When we walk in and out of the
courtroom, Marjorie, I want you to take
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You believe in him.
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You love him.
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The jury has to see it.
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And you children, you look at him
adoringly.
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He's your father, a loving family man.
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And you embrace at the end of each day
right there in the courtroom.
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We want the jury and we want to
humanize.
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Are you all right?
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I'm fine. I'm fine.
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This one, this one's a little tense.
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How can this be? Just give me a mild
sedative. I'll be fine. I can't put you
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the witness chair on drugs, Carter.
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Doctor. It's a neurotic edema of the
vocal cords, probably induced by panic.
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he's going to sound like a chipmunk?
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It could just be hyperventilation.
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Carter, let's try some singing.
Sometimes that can relax the swelling.
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got to be kidding me.
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He had a bad experience in a witness
stand last year. He's the medical
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Mine eyes have seen the glory of the
coming of the Lord. Oh, no, that's it.
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kicking it.
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Okay, you're not kicking it. Look, you
cannot expect me to go into court with
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these two witnesses. This is my first
trial in this town, and you'll make...
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Hey!
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Maybe Howard should go first.
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Howard, are you ready? Yes. We go
through my Alzheimer's condition first,
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flagging the occasional lapses of
dementia, but clarifying that it does
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impair my capacity for observation.
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Good, good. Now, look, if there's
anything that you don't remember, you
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so, all right? We can always recollect
with your statement.
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Now, Howard, this is very important. If
you get confused, just say you don't
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remember.
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Don't worry about me.
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I'm ready.
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Okay. So am I. Let's go.
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All right, please, please, move aside.
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Please, please.
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Your Honor,
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the prosecution calls as its first
witness, Mr. Howard Butt. Your Honor,
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defense will stipulate to Mr.
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Butt's testimony.
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He saw Mayor Pugin discharge his weapon
after the carjacker dropped the knife.
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Mr. Littleton?
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Well, the prosecution contends that the
gun was fired 20 to 30 seconds after the
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knife was dropped. 20 to 30 seconds, so
stipulated with pleasure.
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Fine. The jury is to consider the
stipulation as uncontroverted evidence.
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Prosecution may call its next witness.
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Uh, the people...
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The people call Carter Pike.
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All Carter Pike is going to do is
confirm what Howard says.
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Mr. Littleton?
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That's right.
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We can stipulate that Carter's forensic
findings support Howard Buss' version of
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the events?
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Fine. So ordered. Call your next
witness.
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Well, that's all we have, Your Honor.
The prosecution rests.
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You could have demanded they testify.
Why should I? I'm happy to take the
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stipulations.
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Don't you see what Wambaugh did?
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The jury doesn't get to hear our story.
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Instead of witnesses, they get dry
stipulations. Now, what kind of impact
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that going to have on you? Are you going
to tell me how to try my case, Sheriff?
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What, are you a lawyer?
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Two stipulations. That is your entire
case. Look, Howard Buss and Carter Pike
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are unreliable witnesses.
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They're the two most unreliable
witnesses I've ever seen.
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Now, I don't care what defense strategy
is. For me to get my case in without
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having to talk about Howard's
Alzheimer's or without the jury
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Carter Pike's little chipmunk voice.
Don't yell at me. Don't tell me how to
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my case.
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All I'm telling you is that the only
story the jury gets to hear is the
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I'll get the mayor.
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When he testifies, I'll get him.
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160 over 90.
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That is a little high.
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But it's understandable with all the
stress, Marjorie. Everything else is
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fine.
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So I'm not having a heart attack? No,
just a little hypertension.
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I'll call in a prescription for you at
Dalt's.
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Okay.
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Nothing to worry about.
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00:26:06,980 --> 00:26:10,440
You and Jimmy have been in our house.
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00:26:13,620 --> 00:26:14,940
We've been in yours.
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My husband is a moral man.
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Problem is, so is mine.
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So when you surprised him with your
pistol, he dropped the knife? That's
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I kept telling him to lie down or I'd
shoot, and he kept staring at me, saying
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that if I was responsible for sending
him to jail, he'd be back.
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To kill me, or maybe just to maim me.
448
00:26:44,330 --> 00:26:47,310
So what was going through your mind at
this point, sir?
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The system.
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The system?
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I kept thinking about... about the
overpopulation of the prisons.
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How violent criminals are being set free
earlier. How they come out of prison
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more dangerous than they go in. How he
probably would be out in three years,
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I was afraid.
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You were afraid that he would kill you?
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When he talked about killing me, that
was one thing.
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But when he threatened my kids, my
children, I said to myself, no.
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I will not let this man harm my family.
I will not.
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So what did you do?
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I looked right into his psychotic eyes
and I pulled the trigger.
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That's enough.
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You people be quiet.
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Thank you, Mayor Pugin. I have nothing
further.
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Well, just so we're all clear here.
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Now, you're not claiming any diminished
capacity or insanity when you pulled
466
00:28:00,420 --> 00:28:03,800
that trigger. To the contrary, it was
probably the sanest moment of my life.
467
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,220
I said that's enough.
468
00:28:06,580 --> 00:28:07,640
I'm warning you.
469
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,840
One more outburst and I'll take
prisoners.
470
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,940
Did you know, sir, it is illegal to
carry a concealed weapon?
471
00:28:15,140 --> 00:28:20,080
The Constitution guarantees the right to
bear arms. The Bill of Rights does not
472
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,700
guarantee the individual's right to bear
arms. I'm not interested in any
473
00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:25,200
constitutional analysis.
474
00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:27,320
Save it for the appellate courts.
475
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,180
Now, according to your testimony, you
shot the victim because you were afraid
476
00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:37,040
would come back three years later to
harm you or your family.
477
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:38,300
That is correct.
478
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,140
You had no fear that he would harm you
at that very second.
479
00:28:41,770 --> 00:28:42,770
That is correct.
480
00:28:42,790 --> 00:28:44,150
And you believe you were justified?
481
00:28:44,690 --> 00:28:45,690
Absolutely.
482
00:28:46,050 --> 00:28:50,250
Proud to stand up in court today and say
so? I am not proud of killing another
483
00:28:50,250 --> 00:28:53,170
human being, but I will not engage in
recrimination.
484
00:28:53,650 --> 00:28:58,150
Well, if you are so convinced of your
merit, Mr. Mayor, why at first did you
485
00:28:58,150 --> 00:28:59,150
lie?
486
00:29:00,450 --> 00:29:03,750
Why did you tell Sheriff Brock that that
knife was pressed against your throat
487
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:04,750
when you fired?
488
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,480
I told the sheriff that the knife was
pressed to my throat. That is true.
489
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,060
I also told the sheriff that I was in
fear for my life at the time I
490
00:29:18,220 --> 00:29:19,220
Also true.
491
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,520
The sheriff then inferred that the knife
was pushed to my throat at the very
492
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,040
second that I discharged.
493
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,140
The next day, when he particularized his
questions, we set the record straight.
494
00:29:30,620 --> 00:29:31,720
You never lied.
495
00:29:32,540 --> 00:29:34,060
I never lied.
496
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,060
I think you did.
497
00:29:36,659 --> 00:29:40,180
Well, well, then it's settled. After
all, we're gathered here to learn what
498
00:29:40,180 --> 00:29:41,180
district attorney thinks.
499
00:29:41,540 --> 00:29:44,140
Okay, that's enough. I completely object
to that man.
500
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,200
Wambaugh, sit down.
501
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,020
Do you have anything else?
502
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,440
Mr. Littleton, do you have any more
questions?
503
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,880
No, I'm done.
504
00:30:04,260 --> 00:30:05,360
We're dead in the water.
505
00:30:11,220 --> 00:30:14,160
Hello. Don't call me a midget. I'm a
little person.
506
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:16,840
I want to be clear on that.
507
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,540
As far as my ears go, they're big. The
biggest in this town. I know everything
508
00:30:22,540 --> 00:30:23,540
about everybody.
509
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,280
And eventually, I'll know most of what
there is to know about you.
510
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,060
To save time, I've compiled an easy -to
-fill -out questionnaire.
511
00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:35,460
Please have it completed by Tuesday.
512
00:30:37,260 --> 00:30:39,580
Ma 'am, I don't even have a place to
live yet.
513
00:30:40,649 --> 00:30:45,430
I haven't unpacked one box in my office.
I've never tried a murder case before
514
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:49,230
in my life, and I'm supposed to go after
your mayor with virtually no evidence.
515
00:30:49,730 --> 00:30:53,450
I'm a little unsettled at the moment.
You think I could maybe get an extension
516
00:30:53,450 --> 00:30:54,450
on this questionnaire?
517
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:56,910
Well, it's in your interest to complete
it now.
518
00:30:57,230 --> 00:30:58,990
You have no friends in Rome.
519
00:30:59,470 --> 00:31:01,930
People will look to me for an early
indication.
520
00:31:02,250 --> 00:31:04,630
I'd like to be able to say something
nice.
521
00:31:05,950 --> 00:31:07,730
Wednesday. No later.
522
00:31:15,230 --> 00:31:16,850
No guts, that's his problem.
523
00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:20,470
Hot shot district is turning my ass.
He's a fraud.
524
00:31:20,810 --> 00:31:21,810
Potatoes.
525
00:31:23,030 --> 00:31:26,150
He doesn't have a very good hand to
play, honey. I think he's doing his
526
00:31:26,810 --> 00:31:29,130
Oh, that's crap. He's phoning it in.
527
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:31,410
Is Mayor Pugin a murderer?
528
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:35,270
Yes. Jimmy.
529
00:31:36,030 --> 00:31:37,790
That's for the jury to decide, sweetie.
530
00:31:38,450 --> 00:31:41,130
The man is a murderer, no matter what
the jury says.
531
00:31:41,530 --> 00:31:43,530
You seem to be taking this very
personally.
532
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,620
There's nothing personal about it. I'm
just concerned about my client. You've
533
00:31:48,620 --> 00:31:50,460
had clients you've cared much more
about.
534
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:53,700
For you to be this agitated, you must be
worried about yourself.
535
00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:55,740
Just let me practice my closing.
536
00:32:00,820 --> 00:32:01,820
Miriam.
537
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,640
Miriam.
538
00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:07,880
I... I took a real chance.
539
00:32:08,780 --> 00:32:12,380
I could have gone with insanity or
involuntary manslaughter.
540
00:32:12,970 --> 00:32:16,430
I could have chewed up Howard and Carter
and played for reasonable doubt.
541
00:32:16,970 --> 00:32:18,730
I went with straight self -defense.
542
00:32:19,370 --> 00:32:20,370
It's a risk.
543
00:32:21,470 --> 00:32:22,990
I hope I didn't screw up.
544
00:32:23,670 --> 00:32:27,210
And you need to feel you've done your
job well. And I think that if the jury
545
00:32:27,210 --> 00:32:30,870
ratifies Bill Pugin and his fear, then
you're going to take that to mean that
546
00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:31,870
the streets aren't safe.
547
00:32:32,290 --> 00:32:34,570
The streets of this town are as safe as
I can make them.
548
00:32:36,890 --> 00:32:38,170
I didn't say they weren't.
549
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:51,040
Do you have any idea how... To know my
wife is taking shooting lessons, do you
550
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,840
have any idea how that makes me feel as
a sheriff?
551
00:32:54,940 --> 00:32:55,940
As a husband?
552
00:32:56,180 --> 00:32:57,560
But it's not about you, Jimmy.
553
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,700
It's about what's happening out there.
554
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,760
It is about me.
555
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,200
And if women have to carry guns and
people cheer vigilantes and Bill Pugin
556
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,200
right...
557
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,320
And I'm wrong.
558
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,320
I'm completely lost.
559
00:33:33,660 --> 00:33:34,840
Involuntary manslaughter.
560
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,820
I think it's the best we can do. Four
years, three suspended.
561
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,460
This was practically premeditated. We're
losing, Sheriff. Now, this at least
562
00:33:42,460 --> 00:33:43,580
puts the man behind bars.
563
00:33:44,340 --> 00:33:47,560
No, I do not want to go to jail. I
cannot risk jail.
564
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,000
It would be one year only. If they
convict in second degree, you're looking
565
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,280
12 minimum. You said we were winning. We
are winning.
566
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,480
They wouldn't make us this deal unless
they knew that.
567
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:01,800
You think I should tell them to stick
it?
568
00:34:02,340 --> 00:34:04,900
As your lawyer, I bring you the offer.
569
00:34:05,420 --> 00:34:07,040
But I'm obligated to tell you.
570
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,440
It is a risk.
571
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,020
This jury can do anything. Your advice,
your counsel, that's what I'm paying you
572
00:34:13,020 --> 00:34:14,020
for.
573
00:34:15,260 --> 00:34:16,560
Tell them to stick it.
574
00:34:17,620 --> 00:34:21,639
Don't you dare speak to me like that.
You offer a bogus plea. In my
575
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:24,500
judgment, that plea was warranted. I
disagree with... I'm the district
576
00:34:24,620 --> 00:34:25,620
It's my call.
577
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,139
I told you from the start, this was an
impossible case. There was no upside to
578
00:34:34,139 --> 00:34:35,280
pursuing it. There never was.
579
00:34:35,860 --> 00:34:41,540
At best... We win, and a good man goes
to jail. A town loses its mayor, and
580
00:34:41,540 --> 00:34:42,780
carjackers feel safer.
581
00:34:43,139 --> 00:34:44,460
Now, at worst, we lose.
582
00:34:44,739 --> 00:34:48,820
We waste tax dollars and leave an entire
community demoralized to the point of
583
00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:49,820
civil dysfunction.
584
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:51,460
There was no point.
585
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,840
It was no win.
586
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,699
You still don't get it.
587
00:34:56,620 --> 00:34:57,660
Close that door.
588
00:34:58,700 --> 00:34:59,700
Now.
589
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,200
The man committed a crime. That's the
truth.
590
00:35:05,820 --> 00:35:10,220
It's not your job to decide whether the
pursuit of that truth has an upside. It
591
00:35:10,220 --> 00:35:11,920
is my job to determine... I'm talking
now!
592
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:20,520
I never excuse criminal behavior out of
expediency. And if you do, then you
593
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,520
don't get it.
594
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,080
Jimmy.
595
00:35:25,460 --> 00:35:26,460
What?
596
00:35:26,980 --> 00:35:29,140
Wambaugh just called. The plea bargain's
been rejected.
597
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,400
When you think of America...
598
00:35:35,630 --> 00:35:36,710
You think of guns.
599
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:43,390
Ever since Paul Revere took his midnight
ride, America symbolized a land where
600
00:35:43,390 --> 00:35:47,090
the good guys took up arms and stave off
the bad guys.
601
00:35:47,770 --> 00:35:50,150
Bill Pugin did just that.
602
00:35:50,990 --> 00:35:53,950
Bill Pugin is an American.
603
00:35:54,810 --> 00:35:58,410
People throughout this country have to
live in fear.
604
00:35:58,970 --> 00:36:03,330
One out of every four families will be
robbed, raped.
605
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:05,240
burglarized or murdered.
606
00:36:06,220 --> 00:36:09,880
73 % of adult women will be crime
victims.
607
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,700
That's the other thing about America.
608
00:36:14,060 --> 00:36:16,280
We're a nation of crime.
609
00:36:17,420 --> 00:36:23,580
When that carjacker put the knife under
Bill Pugin's throat and he said to him
610
00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:28,140
that he'll come back to kill him and
hurt his family, well, damn it!
611
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,620
He got fed up.
612
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,820
He wasn't going to be a victim.
613
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,140
So he saved his family. He did what
every good husband and father would be
614
00:36:38,140 --> 00:36:42,820
to do. And ladies and gentlemen, maybe
he saved you.
615
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,140
Maybe Bill Pugin stopped the knife from
getting put under your throat.
616
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,560
You're glad he pulled the trigger.
617
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,640
Admit that.
618
00:36:53,660 --> 00:36:57,720
Just like the people of Rome that
cheered right here in this very room.
619
00:36:58,540 --> 00:36:59,540
You're glad.
620
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,040
He's our mayor.
621
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:04,360
He's one of us.
622
00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:08,220
So you go right back to that jury room.
623
00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:11,120
And you do what's right.
624
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,020
You follow your heart.
625
00:37:35,930 --> 00:37:37,210
Yes, he is the mayor.
626
00:37:38,970 --> 00:37:40,870
Maybe a beloved member of this
community.
627
00:37:41,370 --> 00:37:42,370
Maybe one of you.
628
00:37:43,270 --> 00:37:44,270
I don't really know.
629
00:37:45,730 --> 00:37:47,250
You see, defense counsel is right.
630
00:37:47,550 --> 00:37:49,210
I don't know you people.
631
00:37:50,030 --> 00:37:53,710
I've only been in town here for a few
days. I don't really have any idea who
632
00:37:53,710 --> 00:37:54,710
people of Rome are.
633
00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:58,810
The only person I have any kind of feel
for at all is the sheriff.
634
00:38:00,190 --> 00:38:01,930
But let me tell you what I know about
him.
635
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,500
He's a man who doesn't measure the truth
for its popularity.
636
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,660
He doesn't consider integrity for its
pragmatic consequences.
637
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,380
He practices honesty not because a good
might come out of it, but because
638
00:38:16,380 --> 00:38:18,300
honesty itself is a good.
639
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,620
And he knows that if an individual or a
community ever abandons that principle,
640
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,720
then we'd all be in big trouble,
wouldn't we?
641
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,160
Look, let's just be honest here for a
second, people.
642
00:38:32,940 --> 00:38:36,080
There's not a person in this room who
believes what Bill Pugin did was self
643
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,080
-defense.
644
00:38:37,580 --> 00:38:38,680
It was vengeance.
645
00:38:40,260 --> 00:38:42,700
Now, was he legitimately afraid? Of
course.
646
00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:48,080
Is there a part of me deep inside that's
glad he pulled that trigger?
647
00:38:49,740 --> 00:38:50,740
Yes.
648
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,460
If he said he just snapped, I'd say I
understand.
649
00:38:55,660 --> 00:38:57,020
But he is not...
650
00:38:57,260 --> 00:39:01,440
Claiming that, he reflectively thought
about the inadequacy of our prison and
651
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:06,400
judicial systems, and with a clear mind,
he took the law into his own hands.
652
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,720
Now, whatever we feel in our hearts, in
our heads, we know that is criminal.
653
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,960
We all absolutely know it.
654
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,340
The question becomes, what are we going
to do about it?
655
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,500
Now, Mr. Wambaugh is right.
656
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,580
I don't know you people.
657
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,680
But right now, why don't you tell me?
658
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,780
A society of guns, like he says, where
the good guys take up a little anarchy,
659
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,400
wipe out the bad guys while juries
pretend they don't see?
660
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,560
Or maybe you're more like him.
661
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:43,560
People of honor.
662
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,500
Of unflinching honor.
663
00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:52,320
Who know that no matter how frightened
we are, we cannot allow that fear to
664
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,380
corrupt our integrity.
665
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:56,230
As individuals or as a society.
666
00:39:59,030 --> 00:40:02,710
Ladies and gentlemen of Rome, Wisconsin,
I hope to God you are like that man.
667
00:40:18,250 --> 00:40:20,950
It was a gifted closing.
668
00:40:21,530 --> 00:40:22,790
Not too preachy.
669
00:40:23,740 --> 00:40:24,740
Quietly effective.
670
00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:27,840
Uh, this is an official room.
671
00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:35,040
I couldn't tell whether the jury was
persuaded, but I could read the room.
672
00:40:35,780 --> 00:40:38,340
The people of Rome accept you.
673
00:40:39,060 --> 00:40:44,460
Uh, I appreciate that, but I'm a little
nervous right now. Do you think I could
674
00:40:44,460 --> 00:40:45,460
have a minute by myself?
675
00:40:46,220 --> 00:40:49,820
Certainly. Maybe later I could snuggle
you in my bosom.
676
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:53,300
I find you attractive.
677
00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:01,380
Oh, I appreciate that. But, um...
Jewelry's back.
678
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,640
All rise.
679
00:41:23,470 --> 00:41:24,470
Be seated.
680
00:41:46,450 --> 00:41:47,450
Mr.
681
00:41:47,870 --> 00:41:49,750
Foreman, has the jury reached its
verdict?
682
00:41:50,290 --> 00:41:51,410
Yes, Your Honor, we have.
683
00:41:52,620 --> 00:41:54,280
Will the defendant please rise?
684
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,080
What say you?
685
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,980
On count one, on the charge of carrying
a concealed weapon, we find the
686
00:42:05,980 --> 00:42:07,460
defendant guilty as charged.
687
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:15,320
On count two, on the charge of second
-degree murder, we find the defendant
688
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,080
guilty as charged.
689
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,380
Sentencing will be set for December 6th.
690
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,360
Bailiff, take the defendant into
custody.
691
00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:38,940
Your Honor, bail under the
circumstances.
692
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,460
It's a murder conviction.
693
00:42:41,580 --> 00:42:43,080
He goes into custody.
694
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,320
New this February.
695
00:43:16,660 --> 00:43:20,100
Playing a dangerous game in Take Me.
696
00:43:20,460 --> 00:43:23,080
The wonderfully surreal Picket Fences.
697
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:28,520
The second series of Law & Order
Returns. And Saturday movie premieres
698
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,540
on Hallmark.
699
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,580
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Channel Quiz.
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