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Once you have achieved everything that
you wanted to achieve in Formula 1.
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That is four in a row, Max.
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Four in a row, congratulations.
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You have a bit more freedom to look into
other things.
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It's a passion of mine that I really
want to succeed in.
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There's a risk, but I believed in it.
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I had never driven a car with a roof
before.
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Put a new bumper on and there we go
again.
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Yeah, that one worked.
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Thank you.
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Get a pass.
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The season started with a lot
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of question marks if it was going to be
good.
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I knew that the basic problems in the
car that we had from the year before
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still there.
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I think very quickly we understood that
it was not great, let's say like that.
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So when I try to delay my shift to
something great first and then do the
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shift, I can just feel like... The
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cart was not where we wanted it to
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be.
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And of course, something that you don't
want to see naturally.
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You want to be out there fighting for
the championship.
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Mark, you've been in the car for a day.
Tomorrow will be a whole day, but we're
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all very curious.
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The RB21, how does it feel?
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But then we definitely had a few tough
weekends, made some mistakes as well.
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Yeah, that was a bit painful at the
time.
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But I had no time to be upset or
disappointed about what was happening in
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Formula 1.
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I was busy with other passion projects.
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I know that, of course, your driving
career yourself is not forever, right?
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couple of years ago, it started to be a
little bit of an idea to be a team
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owner, you know, to try and create your
own GT team.
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Once you have achieved everything that
you wanted to achieve in Formula 1, you
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also have a bit more freedom to look
into other things.
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And I'm passionate about racing. I like
to drive all different kinds of cars.
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It first started in the virtual world.
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It's my hobby, so I enjoy driving there.
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At the same time, by slowly kick
-starting stuff, really, into the real
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world, we decided to create Vistapa .com
Racing.
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Of course, I talked to Red Bull about it
and my ideas and plans, and I think
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they were very open in that because at
the end of the day, you want a happy
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driver, not a frustrated driver, and
those things keep me happy.
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At the moment I don't have the time also
and I cannot commit to fully building
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the GT team by myself in a dedicated
place. So that's why we opted to run it
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through an existing racing team and
actually two different teams. So with
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Frey, yeah, it's a racing family so it's
really, really cool to work with them.
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And then the second team with two Cs,
known for a very long time, they have
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built a very strong platform as a team.
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And that's why I think it's also a very
exciting project to do that together, to
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go internationally in GT World Challenge
and see how competitive we can be.
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It's a passion of mine that I really
want to try and succeed in.
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And then, of course, it was important to
get Chris into the car.
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and up and running.
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I was studying a motorsport degree, so I
built my sim career alongside my study.
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I would say I probably prioritized it
more than any of the studying I did, to
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honest. I think that would even be an
understatement.
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In 2020, about a year into my sim
journey, I could see Max's name in the
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but I was not at the level to race
against him. But by the end of that
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was sat there competing against him, the
best in the world.
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When the first time I realised that
Chris had come into his orbit was
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him race online, and, you know, there
was the name, and Verstappen, and so I
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stood up, watched the song, pretending
to be Max, and Chris goes, no, no, I'm
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talking to him.
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He could be close enough for a double
move. I think it's the right line -up.
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Verstappen .com Team Rex line.
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Oh, that's a lot of cars!
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We met online, yeah. I mean, I met him
racing online in a different sim team,
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and eventually then, of course, we
signed him to our team, and that's how
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started. Look at that RB19 face.
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Yeah, you should have it.
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Chris is a very good racing driver in
the sim racing world, and became one of
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our lead drivers in terms of how he was
taking care of the tasks of the team,
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setting up the car, race craft in the
car.
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just super all around, you know, it
doesn't matter what kind of car you give
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him, he can drive anything.
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Of course, sim racing and the real
racing world is two separate things, but
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have the possibility, of course, to
transition from sim racing into the real
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if you show all the things that I like
to see.
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I spoke to Chris about my idea of
setting up a team or a car for him.
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So he knew that that opportunity was
coming.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, you have to see if they're
comfortable or not. I can't be picky.
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The team probably was a bit more
nervous. Oh, it's him driving the car.
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going to crash the car.
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The idea was obviously presented to us,
and we managed the situation depending
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on the level of the person driving it.
So I didn't really have any preconceived
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ideas, but it's like, right, this is
what we're going to do, and what do we
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to do to prepare for it?
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And go to Mugello really with an open
mind, I would say, not knowing what the
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driver knows or he doesn't know.
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In truth, he's got the best coach with
Max, so if Max believes that... that's
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what he wants to do, then let's work
with it and see where we are.
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I remember walking in, watching the car,
you know, being run up, being warmed
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up. It's a super rainy morning.
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The track was basically flooded.
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I had never driven a car with a roof
before. At that point, I didn't even
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my road licence.
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You know, I was very nervous. I remember
that morning.
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I didn't think my stomach liked it so
much.
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Max was kind of the opposite.
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You know, for him it was his break.
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So his mental space was a bit different.
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Well,
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yeah, I had a few weeks off at that
point. It was actually perfect.
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so we celebrated a bit my birthday one
too many sparkling waters so i
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woke up with uh yeah not enough sleep of
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course i knew that it was going to
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be the first day for chris so he was
probably quite nervous i think i was
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probably probably the opposite of
nervous but it was also the first time
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to drive with the with Jester Martin, so
it was quite a challenge the first time
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out.
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It's always difficult to say what to
expect. I don't really expect anything.
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just go and sit down and then feel it.
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I was wet also. I was like, all right,
let's just make sure that everything is
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in order. I don't need to be at my very
best, but at least that the car is a
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little bit in order.
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into the gravel.
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I just braked, went into the one, four
-wheel drift, literally four -wheel
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drift, just slid into the gravel.
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It is expensive, yeah.
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I always say, first we win, then we look
at the money.
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But at the end of the day, if you do
well, I mean, that's also how it works
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your career.
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If you do well,
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That's the talking and people will also
come to you instead of trying to create
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a massive story or a beautiful story,
but You're driving in the back as a
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What are you gonna sell? You know, so
That's why I always focus first on
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performance I'll be part is a bit
expensive, but we deal with it Yeah
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So Chris, we're just gonna I'm not
around if I can call it that
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Just have a feel. Just make sure.
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It was a lot of nuts because I'd driven
so many
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different GT cars in the team, but I had
no idea what to expect with a roof over
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my head and 1 ,400 kilos underneath me.
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I knew it was going to be very
different.
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My dad was always into cars, got the
inspiration from him, you know, he would
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just watch F1 on the TV.
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Where my passion started was following
his enthusiasm in the sport, just
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anything I could. You know, I remember
actually from before I could even reach
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the pedals, I would just ask to take my
parents' car on the driveway, even just
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drive it a few metres forwards and
backwards.
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But then once it started in a real go
-kart when I was seven or eight.
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Once we started doing national level, it
was called Super One at the time. That
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was already actually at a very young
age, so I think nine years old.
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We kind of went all the way with go
-karting. I did a lot. I was living
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other weekend in a go -kart for seven
years of my life, pretty much.
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I look back on it and I think where I
went wrong rather than the actual
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successes I did.
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I won a European title in 2016 and...
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I was second in the world in 2017, and I
always just kind of pictured that it
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would go further, but the reality of the
situation was following the natural
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ladder, you know, you come to a Formula
4 car or, you know, you go to a GT4 car
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or something along those lines, the
first step is already, you know, 150
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250 ,000 euros to make that step, so
it's not realistic for...
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The vast majority of people know.
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Yeah, it was very difficult to know what
the right way forward should be because
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to go on the single -seater ladder is
just prohibitively expensive.
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I simply don't have the means to have
accomplished that.
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bought the thing just in the hope that
it may lead somewhere, so that it would
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allow him to prepare should ever an
opportunity arise.
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What I didn't expect or predict was
what's happened since.
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You know, obviously that's been an
extraordinary journey.
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Yeah, that turns out to have been one of
my best ever decisions, I think.
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I had no really experience in knowing
how to prepare.
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I did what I thought was right, stepped
a bit up on my fitness so that that
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would be less of a problem in the car.
And, you know, I tried a few different
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things in the theme that would probably
correlate a bit more to the real car.
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You know, there was different tools that
I used, a different simulator,
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different cars and versions of the track
to make everything as accurate as I
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could.
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You shouldn't make people feel nervous
about crashing a car or damage.
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We'll see, right? If he does, he does. I
mean, we'll put a new bumper on and
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there we go again.
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Let's go out and have fun.
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I trust in him.
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Yeah, you feel G -forces, which you
don't feel in the simulator.
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If you crash, it can hurt.
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The physical and mental aspect of being
on a real track, you know, it's a real
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car. Everything is direct, you know, you
have the direct input into the seat,
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the pedals.
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It's strange.
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It feels obvious to say, but...
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It is things like the extra senses you
have, the smell of everything that's
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going on, the sound, or even just, you
know, you take a big curb strike and the
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vertical G -forces, you know, the car
will fly up and then down again.
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There's some elements and some variables
that are completely new that I'm not
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used to controlling.
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But then you also have...
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These moments where I'm in the car, I'm
like, ah, that's exactly how it's
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happened in the sim for the last years
of my life.
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It takes some time to get that
confidence.
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To be honest, after a handful of laps,
it did feel quite natural.
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To be honest, he was good straight away
as a baseline.
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He had a good understanding for the car
and the feeling in the car in tricky
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conditions. And then throughout the day,
just continued to develop on what he
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felt and obviously comparing to Max.
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At the beginning I had no confidence.
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What's your poker?
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Yeah. It'll be fun anyway.
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Yeah, if you come back tomorrow morning,
you look at the data there, you look at
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the onboard, the difference, then you
jump in the car again in five laps.
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He said he never driven a DC Power 4.
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Good job.
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He's done good job.
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In tricky conditions on a tricky track.
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But what's the goal? Do you want him
full -time in the car?
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No, no, full -time car.
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But we need to find, of course, the
right replacement in the sim racing
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which is not easy. It's important that
he stays involved because he is a
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And still, whenever he can, do races,
when the schedule allows to do races.
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But it, of course, also will depend on
how much he is racing in real life.
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It's a big step, but I trust him. And I
said, you need to set the bar high.
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That's British engineering for you.
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It's a very niche route to take, of
course.
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Thousands of people dream of the same
route, you know, taking the same route
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into becoming a professional in the real
car.
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I was going to say, it's not luck, but,
you know, I've been in the right place
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at the right time and I've always
performed when it mattered and that's
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got me the opportunity.
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But it's not only performance.
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It was never only performance.
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I mean, you never know, right, if it's
going to work out. But I do have to
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believe that the biggest percentage was
with Chris to make it work.
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And I would say after the first test, I
knew already that it was going to be all
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right. Of course, I knew that he would
make mistakes, naturally.
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But in terms of pace, I think it will be
fine.
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Everyone calls it the green hell.
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To hit the perfect lap around the north,
it's almost impossible.
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Franz Herrmann is going to try today.
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Do you know Franz Herrmann? Next week we
have the 24 hours of Spa.
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I knew that that was the most important
race of the year and I wanted to make
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sure that we were competitive.
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It's important to know the car because
then they can't bullshit me on things.
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There they are. How's it going guys?
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I probably ask for a lot, but at the end
of the day, we're all there to win,
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right?
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