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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,470 --> 00:00:15,830 Once you have achieved everything that you wanted to achieve in Formula 1. 2 00:00:18,370 --> 00:00:20,650 That is four in a row, Max. 3 00:00:20,910 --> 00:00:22,090 Four in a row, congratulations. 4 00:00:23,190 --> 00:00:25,610 You have a bit more freedom to look into other things. 5 00:00:28,730 --> 00:00:31,990 It's a passion of mine that I really want to succeed in. 6 00:00:39,570 --> 00:00:41,310 There's a risk, but I believed in it. 7 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:53,340 I had never driven a car with a roof before. 8 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,660 Put a new bumper on and there we go again. 9 00:01:28,900 --> 00:01:30,340 Yeah, that one worked. 10 00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:32,100 Thank you. 11 00:01:33,180 --> 00:01:34,180 Get a pass. 12 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:07,060 The season started with a lot 13 00:02:07,060 --> 00:02:09,940 of question marks if it was going to be good. 14 00:02:22,620 --> 00:02:26,340 I knew that the basic problems in the car that we had from the year before 15 00:02:26,340 --> 00:02:27,340 still there. 16 00:02:27,820 --> 00:02:32,320 I think very quickly we understood that it was not great, let's say like that. 17 00:02:55,950 --> 00:03:00,870 So when I try to delay my shift to something great first and then do the 18 00:03:00,870 --> 00:03:07,650 shift, I can just feel like... The 19 00:03:07,650 --> 00:03:14,630 cart was not where we wanted it to 20 00:03:14,630 --> 00:03:15,630 be. 21 00:03:15,790 --> 00:03:18,070 And of course, something that you don't want to see naturally. 22 00:03:18,430 --> 00:03:20,490 You want to be out there fighting for the championship. 23 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:34,140 Mark, you've been in the car for a day. Tomorrow will be a whole day, but we're 24 00:03:34,140 --> 00:03:35,220 all very curious. 25 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,280 The RB21, how does it feel? 26 00:04:05,870 --> 00:04:10,090 But then we definitely had a few tough weekends, made some mistakes as well. 27 00:04:13,250 --> 00:04:15,550 Yeah, that was a bit painful at the time. 28 00:04:20,149 --> 00:04:24,290 But I had no time to be upset or disappointed about what was happening in 29 00:04:24,290 --> 00:04:25,290 Formula 1. 30 00:04:25,910 --> 00:04:28,190 I was busy with other passion projects. 31 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:40,180 I know that, of course, your driving career yourself is not forever, right? 32 00:04:40,180 --> 00:04:44,720 couple of years ago, it started to be a little bit of an idea to be a team 33 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,220 owner, you know, to try and create your own GT team. 34 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,340 Once you have achieved everything that you wanted to achieve in Formula 1, you 35 00:04:58,340 --> 00:05:00,920 also have a bit more freedom to look into other things. 36 00:05:01,370 --> 00:05:04,870 And I'm passionate about racing. I like to drive all different kinds of cars. 37 00:05:06,050 --> 00:05:08,030 It first started in the virtual world. 38 00:05:08,750 --> 00:05:10,890 It's my hobby, so I enjoy driving there. 39 00:05:11,230 --> 00:05:15,750 At the same time, by slowly kick -starting stuff, really, into the real 40 00:05:15,750 --> 00:05:18,930 world, we decided to create Vistapa .com Racing. 41 00:05:19,890 --> 00:05:24,810 Of course, I talked to Red Bull about it and my ideas and plans, and I think 42 00:05:24,810 --> 00:05:27,750 they were very open in that because at the end of the day, you want a happy 43 00:05:27,750 --> 00:05:30,870 driver, not a frustrated driver, and those things keep me happy. 44 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:42,960 At the moment I don't have the time also and I cannot commit to fully building 45 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:49,060 the GT team by myself in a dedicated place. So that's why we opted to run it 46 00:05:49,060 --> 00:05:53,660 through an existing racing team and actually two different teams. So with 47 00:05:53,660 --> 00:05:57,620 Frey, yeah, it's a racing family so it's really, really cool to work with them. 48 00:05:58,190 --> 00:06:02,950 And then the second team with two Cs, known for a very long time, they have 49 00:06:02,950 --> 00:06:05,530 built a very strong platform as a team. 50 00:06:05,990 --> 00:06:10,510 And that's why I think it's also a very exciting project to do that together, to 51 00:06:10,510 --> 00:06:14,670 go internationally in GT World Challenge and see how competitive we can be. 52 00:06:17,650 --> 00:06:22,370 It's a passion of mine that I really want to try and succeed in. 53 00:06:22,650 --> 00:06:25,890 And then, of course, it was important to get Chris into the car. 54 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:27,540 and up and running. 55 00:06:47,860 --> 00:06:53,660 I was studying a motorsport degree, so I built my sim career alongside my study. 56 00:06:54,920 --> 00:07:00,620 I would say I probably prioritized it more than any of the studying I did, to 57 00:07:00,620 --> 00:07:03,080 honest. I think that would even be an understatement. 58 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:10,580 In 2020, about a year into my sim journey, I could see Max's name in the 59 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,280 but I was not at the level to race against him. But by the end of that 60 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,180 was sat there competing against him, the best in the world. 61 00:07:20,590 --> 00:07:26,170 When the first time I realised that Chris had come into his orbit was 62 00:07:26,170 --> 00:07:30,910 him race online, and, you know, there was the name, and Verstappen, and so I 63 00:07:30,910 --> 00:07:35,910 stood up, watched the song, pretending to be Max, and Chris goes, no, no, I'm 64 00:07:35,910 --> 00:07:36,910 talking to him. 65 00:07:37,410 --> 00:07:41,250 He could be close enough for a double move. I think it's the right line -up. 66 00:07:43,090 --> 00:07:44,770 Verstappen .com Team Rex line. 67 00:07:46,230 --> 00:07:47,510 Oh, that's a lot of cars! 68 00:07:48,490 --> 00:07:52,190 We met online, yeah. I mean, I met him racing online in a different sim team, 69 00:07:52,350 --> 00:07:56,730 and eventually then, of course, we signed him to our team, and that's how 70 00:07:56,730 --> 00:07:59,290 started. Look at that RB19 face. 71 00:08:00,970 --> 00:08:02,690 Yeah, you should have it. 72 00:08:03,090 --> 00:08:09,770 Chris is a very good racing driver in the sim racing world, and became one of 73 00:08:09,770 --> 00:08:14,950 our lead drivers in terms of how he was taking care of the tasks of the team, 74 00:08:15,050 --> 00:08:17,750 setting up the car, race craft in the car. 75 00:08:18,790 --> 00:08:22,010 just super all around, you know, it doesn't matter what kind of car you give 76 00:08:22,010 --> 00:08:23,250 him, he can drive anything. 77 00:08:25,150 --> 00:08:30,290 Of course, sim racing and the real racing world is two separate things, but 78 00:08:30,290 --> 00:08:34,289 have the possibility, of course, to transition from sim racing into the real 79 00:08:34,289 --> 00:08:37,150 if you show all the things that I like to see. 80 00:09:08,079 --> 00:09:13,600 I spoke to Chris about my idea of setting up a team or a car for him. 81 00:09:14,220 --> 00:09:16,560 So he knew that that opportunity was coming. 82 00:09:16,820 --> 00:09:17,820 Yeah, yeah. 83 00:09:18,940 --> 00:09:23,500 I mean, you have to see if they're comfortable or not. I can't be picky. 84 00:09:24,620 --> 00:09:31,180 The team probably was a bit more nervous. Oh, it's him driving the car. 85 00:09:31,180 --> 00:09:32,180 going to crash the car. 86 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:38,260 The idea was obviously presented to us, and we managed the situation depending 87 00:09:38,260 --> 00:09:45,180 on the level of the person driving it. So I didn't really have any preconceived 88 00:09:45,180 --> 00:09:50,140 ideas, but it's like, right, this is what we're going to do, and what do we 89 00:09:50,140 --> 00:09:51,240 to do to prepare for it? 90 00:09:51,580 --> 00:09:56,400 And go to Mugello really with an open mind, I would say, not knowing what the 91 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:57,680 driver knows or he doesn't know. 92 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,620 In truth, he's got the best coach with Max, so if Max believes that... that's 93 00:10:02,620 --> 00:10:05,540 what he wants to do, then let's work with it and see where we are. 94 00:10:08,060 --> 00:10:12,500 I remember walking in, watching the car, you know, being run up, being warmed 95 00:10:12,500 --> 00:10:14,280 up. It's a super rainy morning. 96 00:10:15,420 --> 00:10:17,480 The track was basically flooded. 97 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,160 I had never driven a car with a roof before. At that point, I didn't even 98 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,240 my road licence. 99 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,980 You know, I was very nervous. I remember that morning. 100 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,300 I didn't think my stomach liked it so much. 101 00:10:32,870 --> 00:10:34,110 Max was kind of the opposite. 102 00:10:34,330 --> 00:10:36,550 You know, for him it was his break. 103 00:10:38,730 --> 00:10:41,170 So his mental space was a bit different. 104 00:10:56,930 --> 00:10:57,930 Well, 105 00:10:58,090 --> 00:11:00,350 yeah, I had a few weeks off at that point. It was actually perfect. 106 00:11:00,990 --> 00:11:07,870 so we celebrated a bit my birthday one too many sparkling waters so i 107 00:11:07,870 --> 00:11:13,950 woke up with uh yeah not enough sleep of 108 00:11:13,950 --> 00:11:20,890 course i knew that it was going to 109 00:11:20,890 --> 00:11:24,310 be the first day for chris so he was probably quite nervous i think i was 110 00:11:24,310 --> 00:11:29,010 probably probably the opposite of nervous but it was also the first time 111 00:11:29,010 --> 00:11:34,380 to drive with the with Jester Martin, so it was quite a challenge the first time 112 00:11:34,380 --> 00:11:35,380 out. 113 00:11:36,660 --> 00:11:40,040 It's always difficult to say what to expect. I don't really expect anything. 114 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,080 just go and sit down and then feel it. 115 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,640 I was wet also. I was like, all right, let's just make sure that everything is 116 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,880 in order. I don't need to be at my very best, but at least that the car is a 117 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:52,880 little bit in order. 118 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:42,840 into the gravel. 119 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,620 I just braked, went into the one, four -wheel drift, literally four -wheel 120 00:12:47,620 --> 00:12:48,820 drift, just slid into the gravel. 121 00:12:52,700 --> 00:12:58,900 It is expensive, yeah. 122 00:12:59,700 --> 00:13:02,080 I always say, first we win, then we look at the money. 123 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:08,100 But at the end of the day, if you do well, I mean, that's also how it works 124 00:13:08,100 --> 00:13:08,879 your career. 125 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:09,880 If you do well, 126 00:13:10,939 --> 00:13:15,980 That's the talking and people will also come to you instead of trying to create 127 00:13:15,980 --> 00:13:21,940 a massive story or a beautiful story, but You're driving in the back as a 128 00:13:22,260 --> 00:13:27,240 What are you gonna sell? You know, so That's why I always focus first on 129 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:33,540 performance I'll be part is a bit expensive, but we deal with it Yeah 130 00:13:33,540 --> 00:13:37,380 So Chris, we're just gonna I'm not around if I can call it that 131 00:13:39,900 --> 00:13:42,160 Just have a feel. Just make sure. 132 00:13:42,380 --> 00:13:49,100 It was a lot of nuts because I'd driven so many 133 00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:54,440 different GT cars in the team, but I had no idea what to expect with a roof over 134 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,180 my head and 1 ,400 kilos underneath me. 135 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:02,140 I knew it was going to be very different. 136 00:14:21,550 --> 00:14:24,790 My dad was always into cars, got the inspiration from him, you know, he would 137 00:14:24,790 --> 00:14:26,590 just watch F1 on the TV. 138 00:14:26,870 --> 00:14:32,810 Where my passion started was following his enthusiasm in the sport, just 139 00:14:32,810 --> 00:14:37,270 anything I could. You know, I remember actually from before I could even reach 140 00:14:37,270 --> 00:14:41,650 the pedals, I would just ask to take my parents' car on the driveway, even just 141 00:14:41,650 --> 00:14:43,470 drive it a few metres forwards and backwards. 142 00:14:44,030 --> 00:14:47,470 But then once it started in a real go -kart when I was seven or eight. 143 00:14:49,230 --> 00:14:53,250 Once we started doing national level, it was called Super One at the time. That 144 00:14:53,250 --> 00:14:56,790 was already actually at a very young age, so I think nine years old. 145 00:14:58,290 --> 00:15:01,930 We kind of went all the way with go -karting. I did a lot. I was living 146 00:15:01,930 --> 00:15:05,290 other weekend in a go -kart for seven years of my life, pretty much. 147 00:15:09,450 --> 00:15:13,010 I look back on it and I think where I went wrong rather than the actual 148 00:15:13,010 --> 00:15:14,010 successes I did. 149 00:15:15,030 --> 00:15:17,550 I won a European title in 2016 and... 150 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:24,160 I was second in the world in 2017, and I always just kind of pictured that it 151 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,520 would go further, but the reality of the situation was following the natural 152 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:34,320 ladder, you know, you come to a Formula 4 car or, you know, you go to a GT4 car 153 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:40,560 or something along those lines, the first step is already, you know, 150 154 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:45,420 250 ,000 euros to make that step, so it's not realistic for... 155 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,660 The vast majority of people know. 156 00:15:50,780 --> 00:15:56,520 Yeah, it was very difficult to know what the right way forward should be because 157 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,640 to go on the single -seater ladder is just prohibitively expensive. 158 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,680 I simply don't have the means to have accomplished that. 159 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,640 bought the thing just in the hope that it may lead somewhere, so that it would 160 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,060 allow him to prepare should ever an opportunity arise. 161 00:16:13,340 --> 00:16:17,640 What I didn't expect or predict was what's happened since. 162 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,480 You know, obviously that's been an extraordinary journey. 163 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,160 Yeah, that turns out to have been one of my best ever decisions, I think. 164 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,500 I had no really experience in knowing how to prepare. 165 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:52,840 I did what I thought was right, stepped a bit up on my fitness so that that 166 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,760 would be less of a problem in the car. And, you know, I tried a few different 167 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,460 things in the theme that would probably correlate a bit more to the real car. 168 00:17:01,140 --> 00:17:03,660 You know, there was different tools that I used, a different simulator, 169 00:17:03,700 --> 00:17:08,579 different cars and versions of the track to make everything as accurate as I 170 00:17:08,579 --> 00:17:09,579 could. 171 00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:16,210 You shouldn't make people feel nervous about crashing a car or damage. 172 00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:21,230 We'll see, right? If he does, he does. I mean, we'll put a new bumper on and 173 00:17:21,230 --> 00:17:22,230 there we go again. 174 00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:29,970 Let's go out and have fun. 175 00:17:30,670 --> 00:17:31,670 I trust in him. 176 00:17:55,950 --> 00:17:59,410 Yeah, you feel G -forces, which you don't feel in the simulator. 177 00:18:00,350 --> 00:18:01,710 If you crash, it can hurt. 178 00:18:03,150 --> 00:18:07,330 The physical and mental aspect of being on a real track, you know, it's a real 179 00:18:07,330 --> 00:18:11,930 car. Everything is direct, you know, you have the direct input into the seat, 180 00:18:11,970 --> 00:18:12,970 the pedals. 181 00:18:20,330 --> 00:18:21,330 It's strange. 182 00:18:21,930 --> 00:18:23,630 It feels obvious to say, but... 183 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:29,020 It is things like the extra senses you have, the smell of everything that's 184 00:18:29,020 --> 00:18:34,220 going on, the sound, or even just, you know, you take a big curb strike and the 185 00:18:34,220 --> 00:18:37,820 vertical G -forces, you know, the car will fly up and then down again. 186 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,100 There's some elements and some variables that are completely new that I'm not 187 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:44,100 used to controlling. 188 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,100 But then you also have... 189 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,940 These moments where I'm in the car, I'm like, ah, that's exactly how it's 190 00:18:55,940 --> 00:18:58,080 happened in the sim for the last years of my life. 191 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,120 It takes some time to get that confidence. 192 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,880 To be honest, after a handful of laps, it did feel quite natural. 193 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:27,300 To be honest, he was good straight away as a baseline. 194 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:33,780 He had a good understanding for the car and the feeling in the car in tricky 195 00:19:33,780 --> 00:19:37,580 conditions. And then throughout the day, just continued to develop on what he 196 00:19:37,580 --> 00:19:39,640 felt and obviously comparing to Max. 197 00:19:59,930 --> 00:20:01,930 At the beginning I had no confidence. 198 00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:03,710 What's your poker? 199 00:20:15,570 --> 00:20:17,210 Yeah. It'll be fun anyway. 200 00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:23,030 Yeah, if you come back tomorrow morning, you look at the data there, you look at 201 00:20:23,030 --> 00:20:27,910 the onboard, the difference, then you jump in the car again in five laps. 202 00:20:31,210 --> 00:20:33,170 He said he never driven a DC Power 4. 203 00:20:34,030 --> 00:20:34,729 Good job. 204 00:20:34,730 --> 00:20:35,730 He's done good job. 205 00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:38,110 In tricky conditions on a tricky track. 206 00:20:40,290 --> 00:20:42,930 But what's the goal? Do you want him full -time in the car? 207 00:20:43,170 --> 00:20:44,170 No, no, full -time car. 208 00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:47,960 But we need to find, of course, the right replacement in the sim racing 209 00:20:48,060 --> 00:20:51,620 which is not easy. It's important that he stays involved because he is a 210 00:20:52,740 --> 00:20:56,780 And still, whenever he can, do races, when the schedule allows to do races. 211 00:20:56,980 --> 00:21:01,020 But it, of course, also will depend on how much he is racing in real life. 212 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:11,080 It's a big step, but I trust him. And I said, you need to set the bar high. 213 00:21:14,180 --> 00:21:16,100 That's British engineering for you. 214 00:21:19,940 --> 00:21:21,840 It's a very niche route to take, of course. 215 00:21:22,180 --> 00:21:25,740 Thousands of people dream of the same route, you know, taking the same route 216 00:21:25,740 --> 00:21:27,400 into becoming a professional in the real car. 217 00:21:28,860 --> 00:21:33,140 I was going to say, it's not luck, but, you know, I've been in the right place 218 00:21:33,140 --> 00:21:39,840 at the right time and I've always performed when it mattered and that's 219 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:40,840 got me the opportunity. 220 00:21:41,180 --> 00:21:42,420 But it's not only performance. 221 00:21:43,350 --> 00:21:45,430 It was never only performance. 222 00:21:46,390 --> 00:21:50,710 I mean, you never know, right, if it's going to work out. But I do have to 223 00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:54,750 believe that the biggest percentage was with Chris to make it work. 224 00:21:55,370 --> 00:21:59,670 And I would say after the first test, I knew already that it was going to be all 225 00:21:59,670 --> 00:22:02,050 right. Of course, I knew that he would make mistakes, naturally. 226 00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:06,790 But in terms of pace, I think it will be fine. 227 00:22:13,870 --> 00:22:15,250 Everyone calls it the green hell. 228 00:22:15,810 --> 00:22:18,890 To hit the perfect lap around the north, it's almost impossible. 229 00:22:22,430 --> 00:22:23,970 Franz Herrmann is going to try today. 230 00:22:25,690 --> 00:22:30,650 Do you know Franz Herrmann? Next week we have the 24 hours of Spa. 231 00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:35,170 I knew that that was the most important race of the year and I wanted to make 232 00:22:35,170 --> 00:22:36,170 sure that we were competitive. 233 00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:40,210 It's important to know the car because then they can't bullshit me on things. 234 00:22:40,610 --> 00:22:42,370 There they are. How's it going guys? 235 00:22:55,220 --> 00:22:58,920 I probably ask for a lot, but at the end of the day, we're all there to win, 236 00:22:58,980 --> 00:22:59,980 right? 21126

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