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- McCord named John Dean as
having had advanced knowledge
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of the Watergate operation.
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- Right away you could see
the beginnings of an effort
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to smear John Dean.
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- I'm the low guy on the totem
pole, and they thought they
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could dump things on me.
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- This was a Dean plot.
- I know it.
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- I didn't do it.
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- Pressure was building today
on President Nixon to appoint
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an independent investigator.
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- It kept looking
worse and worse.
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- John Dean has reported
today ready to testify.
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- They want war?
I'll give 'em war.
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I began by telling the
President that there was
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a cancer growing
on the presidency,
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and if the cancer
was not removed,
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the President himself
would be killed by it.
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I had let them very clearly
know that I was not going
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to participate in
the matter any further
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and I thought it was
time that everybody
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start thinking about
telling the truth.
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I, for the first time, said
in front of the President
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that I thought that Haldeman,
Ehrlichman, and Dean
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were all indictable
for instruction of--
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obstruction of justice.
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I could tell that both Haldeman
and particularly Ehrlichman
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were very unhappy
with my comment.
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- John Dean starts out as
a very flawed human being.
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He was the typical
suck-up and apparatchik.
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He was blinded by the power
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and the access to all
that power can bring
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and did not have
the experience
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or the ethical fortitude
to resist the things
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that he got involved in.
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- John Dean has got to
the bottom of page 90
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in a statement that is expected
to be about 245 pages.
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So he's, uh, by no means
halfway through.
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He's been talking steadily for
about two and one-half hours.
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Almost every paragraph
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contains some sort
of a bombshell.
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male narrator: The special
prosecutors hadn't known
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what Dean would say because
Dean had refused to talk
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to them without immunity,
so they had watched
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Dean on television along
with everyone else.
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- The statements that Dean
was making seemed farfetched.
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It was hard for me to believe
that, um, President Nixon
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who--say what you will about
him--had this reputation
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for surrounding himself
with efficient
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and no-nonsense people--
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would be dependent on someone
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as young as John Dean to be
in a central role providing
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advice about obstructing
the investigation.
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Clearly his assertions
needed to be tested, um,
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to the Nth degree in order
to be proved credible.
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But there was
a powerful reason to think
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that Dean might be
telling the truth.
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- He had a huge incentive
to testify about everything
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that he possibly could because
he was testifying under
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a grant of use immunity
which meant that anything
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he talked about or anything
we found out about as a result
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of what he testified to we
could never use against him
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in a trial.
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- Meeting with the
President on April 15th.
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As I was driving
into the White House,
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I wondered to myself if
the meeting was a set-up.
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The President, almost from
the outset, began asking me
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a number of leading questions,
which was somewhat unlike
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his normal conversational
relationships I'd had with him.
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Which made me think that the
conversation was being taped
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and a record was being
made to protect himself.
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- After more than six hours
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of unchallenged
testimony yesterday,
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John Dean returns to
the Senate Watergate Committee
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this morning to
answer questions.
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- These senators on both sides
of the aisle know that
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in front of the nation
they have got to ask
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the tough questions.
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As you know, Frank,
the senators are armed
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with the White House
material, logs supplied
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by the White House, and
they will use those logs
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to try to, ah,
jar Dean's story.
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- You're fully aware, Mr. Dean,
of the gravity of the charges
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you have made under oath
against the highest official
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of our land, the President
of the United States?
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- Yes, I am.
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- And being so aware, do you
still stand on your statement?
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- Yes, I do.
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- Why didn't you, as
Counsel to the President,
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go to him at that time and
tell him what was happening?
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- Senator, I was participating
in the cover-up at that time.
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- Now you're testifying I
believe under use immunity
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that this committee
has granted to you.
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- That is correct.
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- You would not be here
testifying today had we not
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granted that use
immunity, would you?
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- Probably be before
the prosecutors, downtown.
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- Now, you refused to testify
before the Grand Jury,
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I believe, did you not?
- That is correct.
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- You pled the Fifth
Amendment there?
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- That is correct.
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- You have been bargaining with
them for immunity, which has
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not yet been granted.
Is that an accurate statement?
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- That is correct, Senator.
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- The net sum of your testimony
is fairly mind-boggling.
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It occurs to me that at this
point the central question
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is simply put.
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What did the President know,
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and when did he know it?
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Howard Baker became
famous for that question,
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but it was less sincere
than it seemed.
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- His famous question of
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what did he know and when
did he know it was really--
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I spotted it as did
Charlie immediately.
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It was an effort to get
me to perjure myself
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by narrowing me down.
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'Cause Baker had been
told by then that,
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"We think we can have
a way to discredit Dean."
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So that's why they tried
to pull me through tape--
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by conversation by conversation
by conversation,
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to which I under-testified.
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Nixon and Haldeman
had hoped to catch Dean
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in mistakes about names,
places, and dates,
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which is why they
wanted Baker to ask
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extremely detailed questions.
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But as Howard Baker
listened to Dean,
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he began to realize that Nixon
probably couldn't survive,
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and so the White House
started losing its mole.
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- He never really even
tried to lay a glove on me,
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because he didn't know
what would come out.
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Next, the White
House argued that Dean
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had masterminded the cover-up
without Nixon's knowledge.
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Nixon's Watergate attorney,
J. Fred Buzhardt,
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sent the Watergate Committee
a long list of accusations.
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- And as you know,
Mr. Chairman,
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the White House has
prepared a memorandum
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and a set of questions
for use by this committee,
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and so with that in mind,
I wish to proceed, sir.
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Dean's activity in the cover-up
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also made him,
perhaps unwittingly,
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the principal author
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of the political
and constitutional crisis
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that Watergate now epitomizes.
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It would have been
embarrassing for the President
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if the true facts
had become known
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shortly after June 17,
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but it is the kind
of embarrassment
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that an immensely
popular President
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could easily have weathered.
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The political--
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The political problem
has been magnified
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1,000 fold because
the truth is coming out--
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coming to light so belatedly
because of insinuations
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that the White House was
a party to the cover-up
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and above all because
the White House was led
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to say things about Watergate
that have since been found
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to have been untrue.
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These added consequences
were John Dean's doing.
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- Well, Senator,
I think that, uh,
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my testimony answers,
in great detail,
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my dealings wi
Mr. Haldeman, Mr. Ehrlichman,
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and the President,
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and based on what I know
and knowing the--
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the, uh, position I held
on the White House staff,
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there is no way conceivable
that I could have done
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and conceived and
implemented the plan
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that they're trying
to suggest that I did.
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- Relieved of his Watergate
duties by the President
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and aware that his own
complicity had become obvious,
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Dean decided to strike out on
his own to hunt for immunity
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for the long list of
wrongs he had committed.
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His increasingly shrill efforts
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since that date
to save himself
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by striking out
recklessly at others
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are too familiar and too
painful to require mention.
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This ends the memorandum,
Mr. Chairman.
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- I would only add
to that, uh, Senator,
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I think that if anyone who
has been on the receiving end
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of adverse publicity,
it's been this witness
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and not any of the
other witnesses,
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and I have not dealt
in personalities,
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nor will I deal
in personalities
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at any time during
these hearings.
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- John Dean lived right
across the street from me,
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and I had the opportunity
on several occasions
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to talk to him informally.
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I happened to be
over at John's house
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and I asked him
at that time,
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was there anything else, aside
from what he had testified to,
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that might be of interest?
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And it was then that he showed
me the, uh, the enemies list.
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- These are from a file, uh,
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that's entitled "Opponents List
and Political Enemies Project."
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- And, Sam, I understand
you have a copy
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of the enemies list
that's been referred to.
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- I do. I do, Frank.
It's not complete.
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Remember, Dean said there
were several updatings.
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- I'll first read
their names first,
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but then I will tell you more
about them as inscribed here.
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One, Arnold Picker
of United Artists,
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described as a top
Muskie fundraiser.
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- Ed Guthman, Managing Editor
of "The L.A. Times,"
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a former Kennedy aide.
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"A highly sophisticated hatchet
man against us in '68."
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- Morton Halperin, leading
executive at Common Cause,
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and it says, "A scandal
would be most helpful here,"
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as a designation under him.
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- Black Panthers,
Brookings Institution,
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Common Cause,
Council for a Livable World,
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Farmers Union NFO,
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National Student Association,
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Southern Christian
Leadership Conference,
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and I'm just
skimming now, Frank.
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- Don't skim, Sam.
Go ahead.
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It's all interesting.
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- And National Student
Association.
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- Daniel Schorr of the Columbia
Broadcasting System
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in Washington.
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The note here is,
"A real media enemy."
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- Apparently you're not
on the list, Frank.
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- Well, that's all right.
That's all right.
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Neither are you,
are you, Sam?
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- I haven't found
my name either.
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Let me just do one more--
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I know you want
to take it back,
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but here's a celebrities list.
- No, no.
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- Carol Channing,
Bill Cosby,
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Jane Fonda,
Steve McQueen,
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Joe Namath, Paul Newman,
Gregory Peck,
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Tony Randall, Barbra Streisand,
and Dick Gregory.
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The White House apparently
didn't like any of them, Frank.
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- Didn't like Joe Namath,
the football player?
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- Well, his name's on the list.
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It says, "Joe Namath, New York
Giants, businessman..."
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- New York Giants?
- "And actor."
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- Who made up that list?
- Well, I don't know!
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Is this the list?
Is this the portion of the list
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that's been turned over
to you by John Dean
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as being so-called enemies
of the White House?
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It is an addition to
a list we got earlier.
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- That would
appear to be, Sam.
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- I don't think, I don't think,
Sam, it's all of it.
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- That's not all of it?
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Well, there must be
200 names on this list.
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- There are more.
- There are more.
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- What is your understanding
of what the White House
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was gonna do to these people
or try to do to them?
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- Well, as you know,
in some of the papers
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that you've already seen,
you've seen very derogatory
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personal type of comments.
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In other instances, you've
seen the suggestive use
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of the Internal
Revenue Service.
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- So your testimony
produces quite a stir.
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- 80 million Americans,
that's what I was told.
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The ones that
blew me away is--
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were when Sam Dash, who was
apparently surprised also,
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said I was--part of my
fan club included people like
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Elizabeth Taylor.
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They were getting telegrams
from people like that.
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- He had done something
that was stunningly brave,
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to come out and take on
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the President of
the United States.
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Think what it takes
to stick a knife
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in the heart of a president,
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and there was no guarantee
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that Nixon wasn't going to
stay in power at that point.
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- I'm quite aware of the fact
that in some circumstances
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it's gonna be my word
against one man's word,
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it's gonna be my word
against two men,
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it's gonna be my word
against three men,
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and probably in some cases
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it's gonna be my word
against four men,
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but I am prepared to stand
on my word and the truth
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and the knowledge
and the facts I have,
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and, uh, I know the truth
is my ally in this,
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and I think ultimately the
truth is going to come out.
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- So he has given
very damaging testimony.
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As always, the question is,
is he to be believed?
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- The credibility of this man
as the country perceives it
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is so important.
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The presidency itself
could hang on it.
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The committee
forced Ehrlichman
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and Haldeman to
testify after Dean.
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- Let's be clear.
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I did not cover up anything
to do with Watergate.
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They denied everything,
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and there was not yet
any definitive evidence
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against them, but
they got nailed anyway.
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- So there came a time
when you were administering
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an investigative unit?
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- Yes, in a--in a literal
sense, that's true.
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- A literal sense?
- Yes, sir.
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- But not in an actual sense?
293
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- Well, I didn't--
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Here I am, dueling with
a professor on the words.
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- No, I'm not
dueling with you.
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I'm just trying to get a--
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- Professor, if you say
actual, it's actual.
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- As soon as
Howard Baker realized
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that much of what was being
said about Nixon was true
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and based in fact,
he immediately backed off
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and became probably
the most prominent questioner
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of witnesses.
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- When did you first learn
of the break-in?
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- On the day following
the break-in
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when I received this
telephone call toward dusk,
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late in the afternoon.
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- Did you talk to
the President on the 17th?
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- No, I didn't.
Not that I can recall.
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- Did you talk to
Mr. Haldeman on the 17th?
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- I think I talked to him
the following day.
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- Were you concerned about it?
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- Not--not particularly.
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- If someone on my staff,
even remotely on my staff
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were charged with
breaking and entering
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to the Democratic National
Committee headquarters
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or someone I was even
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associated with in
a newspaper column,
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that I would be determined
to find out if that happened.
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Now, was there this air of
urgency in the White House
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on your part or Haldeman's
part or Dean's part?
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It's not coming
through that way.
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It sounds like a routine
staff operation,
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but this wasn't a routine
staff operation.
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- Uh...
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Point one,
he wasn't on my staff,
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but that's--
that's beside the point.
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- Some believe
that your questioning
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was really for the first
time a very strong,
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hostile questioning of an
administration witness.
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Now is that a fair statement?
331
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- No, I don't think
it is, really.
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If it is, it's an
unconscious situation,
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because I'm trying today
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as I was trying when
these hearings began
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to treat everyone the same
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and to pursue the matter
as dispassionately
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as very passionate
circumstances will permit.
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- Do you believe that spending
political campaign funds
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to pay for the defense
of the criminal defendants
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could embarrass
the President?
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- I don't know.
I don't know what--
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It depends on the circumstances
and the situation, I think.
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- What about
these circumstances
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and this situation
involving the Watergate?
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- I don't know that I can
make a judgment on that.
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- I'd like to submit
to you a document,
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"Re: Charlotte, North Carolina,
demonstration.
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"One, the most
recent intelligence
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"that has been received from
the advanceman, Bill Henkel,
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and the U.S.S.--" United States
Secret Service, I gather,
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"is that we will have
demonstrators
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"in Charlotte tomorrow.
353
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"The number is running
between 100 and 200.
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"The advanceman's gut reaction
is between 150 and 200.
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They will be violent,"
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with a penciled underlining
of "violent."
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"They will have extremely
obscene signs,"
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underlining "obscene."
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And next to the
word "obscene,"
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penciled in writing
which to me,
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and you'll have
to confirm this--
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it seems to be the same
as the writing
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below your initialing.
364
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It appears to be yours.
If not, I want you to say so--
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saying, "Good."
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Is that your writing there
where it says, "Good"?
367
00:16:28,509 --> 00:16:30,206
- I believe it is, yes, sir.
- Mm-hmm.
368
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- "As has been indicated
by their handbills.
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"It will not only be directed
toward the President,
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but also toward Billy Graham,"
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underlining--underlining,
"also toward Billy Graham,"
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where you penciled in "Great."
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My question
specifically relates
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to exactly what mentality
it is in the White House
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that goes ahead
and indicates good
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when the word violence
is mentioned,
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when obscenity is mentioned,
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which violence
and which obscenity
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is to be directed against the
President of the United States.
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How in any way
can that be good?
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- Slowly but surely
as the facts came out,
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the American people were
scratching their heads
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as to their own President.
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00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:21,388
- I think it reflects poor
judgment on Nixon's part,
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00:17:21,431 --> 00:17:24,869
his, um, choice of
people surrounding him.
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00:17:24,913 --> 00:17:26,958
- I follow it a lot,
and I know that Nixon,
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he's the head of it.
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He knows everything that
goes on in the White House,
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00:17:31,746 --> 00:17:34,357
and they say he didn't, but
you know he knows all about it.
390
00:17:34,401 --> 00:17:36,577
- Even if he isn't,
you know, it bothers me
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in the sense that he
would surround himself
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with the people that he
surrounded himself with
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who were involved in it.
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00:17:43,149 --> 00:17:45,151
Though
increasingly isolated,
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00:17:45,194 --> 00:17:47,892
Nixon continued to fight,
including blocking requests
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00:17:47,936 --> 00:17:49,807
from Ervin's
Watergate Committee.
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00:17:49,851 --> 00:17:52,158
- I'll sit on those papers
398
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if I have to burn every
Goddamn paper in this house.
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00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:59,774
I spoke to Ervin today.
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I said, "What's
your goal, Senator?"
401
00:18:03,038 --> 00:18:05,127
He'd written a letter
demanding documents.
402
00:18:05,171 --> 00:18:06,737
He said, "We want
any activities
403
00:18:06,781 --> 00:18:08,522
to do with Watergate."
404
00:18:08,565 --> 00:18:11,612
And I said, "No, Senator.
That's not happening.
405
00:18:11,655 --> 00:18:14,571
Everything from your
committee leaks."
406
00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,402
I was decent,
407
00:18:19,446 --> 00:18:21,926
but I was very tough.
408
00:18:21,970 --> 00:18:23,928
- I think the press has had it,
and they know it.
409
00:18:23,972 --> 00:18:25,800
- As far as I'm concerned,
410
00:18:25,843 --> 00:18:29,760
so we'll have
a constitutional crisis.
411
00:18:29,804 --> 00:18:32,372
If we lose, I'll
burn the papers.
412
00:18:32,415 --> 00:18:36,941
"Your council isn't gonna
paw through my papers."
413
00:18:36,985 --> 00:18:38,813
He got the message.
414
00:18:41,207 --> 00:18:43,557
Baker was too soft.
415
00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,517
He threw softballs to Dean,
he mishandled Mitchell.
416
00:18:47,561 --> 00:18:51,521
- That's bad, but actually
it's working out pretty well.
417
00:18:51,565 --> 00:18:54,350
Mitchell came across
as a mature, tough guy.
418
00:18:54,394 --> 00:18:55,960
- Really?
- Yeah, and compared
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00:18:56,004 --> 00:18:58,615
to the selfish little bastards
Magruder and Dean,
420
00:18:58,659 --> 00:19:01,662
at least you could see why
Mitchell was in a top job.
421
00:19:01,705 --> 00:19:05,187
I of course believe what
you say, but it's irrelevant.
422
00:19:05,231 --> 00:19:07,146
90% of the stuff
they're talking about
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00:19:07,189 --> 00:19:08,495
goes on all the time.
424
00:19:08,538 --> 00:19:10,105
- That's right.
425
00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:11,846
- Then you consider
the massive things
426
00:19:11,889 --> 00:19:13,978
you've done for the country.
427
00:19:14,022 --> 00:19:16,894
The treasonable actions
that these people condoned.
428
00:19:16,938 --> 00:19:18,635
- They are treason.
429
00:19:18,679 --> 00:19:20,898
- Taking 10,000 documents
in the middle of the war,
430
00:19:20,942 --> 00:19:22,248
attacking the military.
431
00:19:22,291 --> 00:19:24,075
Mansfield cut off
the funds for the war.
432
00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,860
That is immoral.
433
00:19:25,903 --> 00:19:28,167
- Well, don't you worry.
434
00:19:28,210 --> 00:19:29,559
- I don't worry.
435
00:19:29,603 --> 00:19:33,998
- Keep--keep fighting.
436
00:19:34,042 --> 00:19:35,652
A few days later,
437
00:19:35,696 --> 00:19:37,393
a Watergate Committee
investigator
438
00:19:37,437 --> 00:19:39,221
questioned an obscure
White House official,
439
00:19:39,265 --> 00:19:41,180
Alexander Butterfield.
440
00:19:41,223 --> 00:19:43,834
Butterfield's answers
were a huge surprise,
441
00:19:43,878 --> 00:19:46,707
and they suddenly revealed
Nixon's biggest secret,
442
00:19:46,750 --> 00:19:49,753
something nobody had known,
not Nixon's own staff,
443
00:19:49,797 --> 00:19:51,320
not Woodward and Bernstein,
444
00:19:51,364 --> 00:19:52,626
not the FBI,
445
00:19:52,669 --> 00:19:54,454
not the special prosecutor.
446
00:19:58,458 --> 00:20:00,024
- Subcommittee
will come to order.
447
00:20:00,068 --> 00:20:03,724
- My name is Alexander
Porter Butterfield.
448
00:20:03,767 --> 00:20:05,813
- Mr. Butterfield, are you
aware of the installation
449
00:20:05,856 --> 00:20:08,511
of any listening devices of the
Oval Office of the President?
450
00:20:13,168 --> 00:20:17,520
- I was aware of listening
devices, yes, sir.
451
00:20:17,564 --> 00:20:18,956
- As far as you know,
did Mr. Ehrlichman
452
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,394
or Mr. Dean know about
the existence
453
00:20:21,437 --> 00:20:23,047
or the presence
of those devices?
454
00:20:23,091 --> 00:20:24,745
- That would be very unlikely.
455
00:20:24,788 --> 00:20:28,575
My guess is that they
definitely did not know.
456
00:20:28,618 --> 00:20:30,316
- One last question,
if one were therefore
457
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,144
to reconstruct
the conversations
458
00:20:33,188 --> 00:20:35,625
at any particular date,
what would be the best way
459
00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:38,062
to reconstruct those
conversations, Mr. Butterfield?
460
00:20:41,065 --> 00:20:44,155
- Well, in the obvious
manner, Mr. Dash.
461
00:20:44,199 --> 00:20:49,030
To obtain the tape
and play it.
462
00:20:49,073 --> 00:20:50,684
- I have no further
questions, Mr. Chairman.
463
00:20:52,816 --> 00:20:54,992
- We have just heard
startling testimony
464
00:20:55,036 --> 00:20:56,951
that the President's office,
465
00:20:56,994 --> 00:20:59,562
the President's phone
are all bugged.
466
00:20:59,606 --> 00:21:02,609
- We heard about it as
the nation heard about it.
467
00:21:02,652 --> 00:21:04,219
That was a game-changer.
468
00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:06,830
- John Dean didn't
know about it.
469
00:21:06,874 --> 00:21:10,312
He had been relying solely
on his notes and memory
470
00:21:10,356 --> 00:21:13,533
to testify to specific
conversations,
471
00:21:13,576 --> 00:21:17,798
and now there's a chance that
every one of those is recorded,
472
00:21:17,841 --> 00:21:20,104
every single word he spoke,
473
00:21:20,148 --> 00:21:22,324
and he knows, as we did,
474
00:21:22,368 --> 00:21:25,545
that if they didn't confirm
exactly what he said,
475
00:21:25,588 --> 00:21:28,243
he'd have no credibility
and our case was over.
476
00:21:28,287 --> 00:21:30,463
Nixon's lawyer,
J. Fred Buzhardt,
477
00:21:30,506 --> 00:21:33,944
was blindsided by the tapes
because Nixon had lied to him.
478
00:21:33,988 --> 00:21:35,772
A month earlier,
Buzhardt had heard
479
00:21:35,816 --> 00:21:37,600
that Nixon had offered
to play a tape
480
00:21:37,644 --> 00:21:39,950
for Henry Petersen of
the Justice Department.
481
00:21:39,994 --> 00:21:42,083
So Buzhardt asked
Nixon about tapes,
482
00:21:42,126 --> 00:21:44,999
and Nixon lied
about them on tape.
483
00:21:45,042 --> 00:21:48,655
- He said Henry had told
him that you had offered
484
00:21:48,698 --> 00:21:52,267
to permit him to hear a tape
of a conversation with Dean
485
00:21:52,311 --> 00:21:58,142
that you had on--had
on Sunday, April 15th.
486
00:21:58,186 --> 00:22:00,188
We did not comment on that.
487
00:22:00,231 --> 00:22:02,495
- I haven't got a tape.
488
00:22:02,538 --> 00:22:05,062
I don't have any tape.
489
00:22:05,106 --> 00:22:08,762
- So that was a
misunderstanding on his part?
490
00:22:08,805 --> 00:22:10,938
- In fact, I haven't
any notes on that.
491
00:22:12,940 --> 00:22:14,420
- Had you known there
was a taping system?
492
00:22:14,463 --> 00:22:16,726
- No.
- Did it surprise you?
493
00:22:16,770 --> 00:22:20,426
- Yes, I--yes, it did.
494
00:22:20,469 --> 00:22:24,038
It jolted me,
it surprised me.
495
00:22:24,081 --> 00:22:26,780
And a week after it became
known, after I thought on it,
496
00:22:26,823 --> 00:22:28,782
I sent Nixon a memo, I said,
497
00:22:28,825 --> 00:22:30,261
"You're gonna have to
keep the Dean tapes,
498
00:22:30,305 --> 00:22:32,002
those conversations--"
499
00:22:32,046 --> 00:22:34,440
Again, I didn't think
they'd impeach Nixon.
500
00:22:34,483 --> 00:22:36,920
I wasn't sure that--
did I believe Nixon.
501
00:22:36,964 --> 00:22:38,966
"Keep the Dean tapes,
502
00:22:39,009 --> 00:22:41,447
"keep the Brezhnev and all
the other foreign policy tapes.
503
00:22:41,490 --> 00:22:44,014
"Take the rest of them out
and burn them.
504
00:22:44,058 --> 00:22:46,060
"Take all the tapes
out and burn them,
505
00:22:46,103 --> 00:22:49,237
"and get rid of the
Archie Cox and the--
506
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,413
"and the special
prosecutor's office
507
00:22:51,457 --> 00:22:53,241
"of the independent counsel.
508
00:22:53,284 --> 00:22:55,374
"Shut the thing down
because this is gonna grow
509
00:22:55,417 --> 00:22:57,245
into a monster, and
it will kill us."
510
00:22:57,288 --> 00:22:59,290
- The White House
today confirmed
511
00:22:59,334 --> 00:23:02,250
that the President no longer
secretly records conversations.
512
00:23:02,293 --> 00:23:04,861
Deputy News Secretary
Gerald Warren said, quote,
513
00:23:04,905 --> 00:23:06,907
"The system has
been deactivated."
514
00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:08,735
- The Senate
Watergate Committee
515
00:23:08,778 --> 00:23:11,868
has just voted unanimously
to issue a subpoena
516
00:23:11,912 --> 00:23:13,653
to President Nixon
for the tapes
517
00:23:13,696 --> 00:23:16,133
that he's refused to
release to the committee.
518
00:23:16,177 --> 00:23:17,483
The special prosecutors
519
00:23:17,526 --> 00:23:19,441
wanted those tapes too.
520
00:23:19,485 --> 00:23:23,271
- There was discussion about
whether this was a set-up,
521
00:23:23,314 --> 00:23:27,536
whether the tapes would
have been fabricated
522
00:23:27,580 --> 00:23:33,586
or otherwise designed to
lead us down the garden path,
523
00:23:33,629 --> 00:23:36,632
but irrespective of that,
we needed to get them.
524
00:23:36,676 --> 00:23:39,069
First,
Cox asked politely.
525
00:23:39,113 --> 00:23:41,332
- I would urge that the tapes
be furnished for use
526
00:23:41,376 --> 00:23:44,292
in my investigation
without restriction.
527
00:23:44,335 --> 00:23:46,555
This procedure strikes
me as the method
528
00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:48,818
of establishing the truth,
which is most fair
529
00:23:48,862 --> 00:23:51,473
to everyone concerned,
including the President.
530
00:23:51,517 --> 00:23:52,909
The White House refused,
531
00:23:52,953 --> 00:23:55,042
so Cox issued subpoenas.
532
00:23:55,085 --> 00:23:57,784
- Special prosecutor
Archibald Cox arrived
533
00:23:57,827 --> 00:23:59,655
to tell the grand jury
that the President
534
00:23:59,699 --> 00:24:02,005
had declined to
turn over the tapes,
535
00:24:02,049 --> 00:24:04,225
but the grand jurors
rose one by one
536
00:24:04,268 --> 00:24:06,009
and confirmed
it was their wish
537
00:24:06,053 --> 00:24:08,316
to command the President
to produce the tapes.
538
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,970
- We felt any conversations
539
00:24:10,013 --> 00:24:12,146
that were in furtherance
of a crime
540
00:24:12,189 --> 00:24:14,844
were not protected by
executive privilege,
541
00:24:14,888 --> 00:24:17,107
and so we were very careful
to pick conversations
542
00:24:17,151 --> 00:24:20,023
that we felt we could make
a very valid argument
543
00:24:20,067 --> 00:24:22,678
were likely to contain
conversations
544
00:24:22,722 --> 00:24:24,506
about committing a crime.
545
00:24:24,550 --> 00:24:27,335
- Traditionally, executive
privilege has been enough
546
00:24:27,378 --> 00:24:30,251
to deny to the House
or the Senate
547
00:24:30,294 --> 00:24:32,688
of presidential--
548
00:24:32,732 --> 00:24:35,038
personal presidential
communications.
549
00:24:35,082 --> 00:24:37,563
- Since Cox is in
the Executive Branch,
550
00:24:37,606 --> 00:24:39,913
there is no separation
of powers obstacle,
551
00:24:39,956 --> 00:24:41,958
which the President
could raise.
552
00:24:42,002 --> 00:24:44,134
So while the Congress
may not get the tapes,
553
00:24:44,178 --> 00:24:46,093
Mr. Cox may get them.
554
00:24:46,136 --> 00:24:47,703
The subpoenas
to obtain the tapes
555
00:24:47,747 --> 00:24:49,792
constituted Nixon's
next crisis.
556
00:24:49,836 --> 00:24:51,533
Once again, he responded
557
00:24:51,577 --> 00:24:53,448
with a nationally
televised speech.
558
00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:56,320
- Many have urged that in order
to help prove the truth
559
00:24:56,364 --> 00:24:58,322
of what I have said,
I should turn over
560
00:24:58,366 --> 00:25:01,151
to the special prosecutor
and the Senate Committee
561
00:25:01,195 --> 00:25:04,198
recordings of conversation
that I held in my office
562
00:25:04,241 --> 00:25:07,375
or on my telephone.
563
00:25:07,418 --> 00:25:10,552
However, a much more important
principle is involved
564
00:25:10,596 --> 00:25:13,816
in this question than
what the tapes might prove
565
00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:16,776
about Watergate.
566
00:25:16,819 --> 00:25:19,561
Each day, a President
of the United States
567
00:25:19,605 --> 00:25:23,478
is required to make difficult
decisions on grave issues.
568
00:25:23,522 --> 00:25:26,133
It is absolutely necessary,
569
00:25:26,176 --> 00:25:28,744
if the President is to
be able to do his job
570
00:25:28,788 --> 00:25:31,312
as the country expects,
571
00:25:31,355 --> 00:25:34,576
that he be able to talk
openly and candidly
572
00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:38,275
with his advisors about
issues and individuals.
573
00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:41,061
This kind of frank discussion
is only possible
574
00:25:41,104 --> 00:25:42,889
when those who
take part in it
575
00:25:42,932 --> 00:25:46,632
know that what they say
is in strictest confidence.
576
00:25:46,675 --> 00:25:48,851
This principle
of confidentiality
577
00:25:48,895 --> 00:25:51,985
of presidential
conversations is at stake
578
00:25:52,028 --> 00:25:54,727
in the question
of these tapes.
579
00:25:54,770 --> 00:25:57,643
- The tapes argument
occurred before
580
00:25:57,686 --> 00:26:00,950
Judge Sirica first at
the district court level.
581
00:26:00,994 --> 00:26:03,518
The President took the
position, through his attorney,
582
00:26:03,562 --> 00:26:05,389
that he, as President,
583
00:26:05,433 --> 00:26:08,262
could not be compelled
to do anything.
584
00:26:08,305 --> 00:26:11,134
- I'm sure that the
President's legal position
585
00:26:11,178 --> 00:26:13,354
is presented in good faith.
586
00:26:13,397 --> 00:26:15,051
I think it's quite wrong.
587
00:26:15,095 --> 00:26:16,792
- Judge Sirica ruled
588
00:26:16,836 --> 00:26:19,490
a week after the
argument in our favor,
589
00:26:19,534 --> 00:26:22,058
but the White House appeals.
590
00:26:22,102 --> 00:26:23,930
As the pressure
on him mounted,
591
00:26:23,973 --> 00:26:26,193
Nixon's public façade
started to crack.
592
00:26:26,236 --> 00:26:28,325
- Something seemed to
anger the President.
593
00:26:28,369 --> 00:26:30,414
As he arrived, he
accentuated a command
594
00:26:30,458 --> 00:26:34,114
to his aide, Ron Ziegler,
with a hefty shove.
595
00:26:34,157 --> 00:26:36,029
Meanwhile,
William Ruckelshaus
596
00:26:36,072 --> 00:26:38,292
left the FBI to become
Elliot Richardson's deputy
597
00:26:38,335 --> 00:26:40,511
at the Justice Department.
598
00:26:40,555 --> 00:26:43,602
By then, they both realized
that Nixon might not survive.
599
00:26:43,645 --> 00:26:46,300
- And when I left the FBI,
600
00:26:46,343 --> 00:26:49,956
which was in July of 1973,
601
00:26:49,999 --> 00:26:53,307
I told Elliot Richardson
that after being there
602
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:55,962
for three months,
I had concluded
603
00:26:56,005 --> 00:27:00,009
that the President was
heavily involved in Watergate,
604
00:27:00,053 --> 00:27:02,446
uh, pretty much
up to his neck.
605
00:27:02,490 --> 00:27:04,666
But as serious
as Watergate already was,
606
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:06,842
Ruckelshaus and Richardson
had also been
607
00:27:06,886 --> 00:27:08,975
secretly managing
another crisis,
608
00:27:09,018 --> 00:27:11,151
one that made Watergate
even more dangerous.
609
00:27:15,416 --> 00:27:18,680
- We spent most of
the summer of 1973
610
00:27:18,724 --> 00:27:21,683
engaged in the
investigation of Agnew.
611
00:27:21,727 --> 00:27:24,251
Some prosecutors
from Baltimore
612
00:27:24,294 --> 00:27:26,253
came to Elliot, who was
then Attorney General,
613
00:27:26,296 --> 00:27:28,603
Elliot Richardson,
and had told him
614
00:27:28,647 --> 00:27:33,477
that they were receiving
a number of witnesses
615
00:27:33,521 --> 00:27:36,567
in a grand jury who
claimed that Agnew
616
00:27:36,611 --> 00:27:40,354
had received bribes when he
was the Governor of Maryland
617
00:27:40,397 --> 00:27:42,704
and then subsequently
Vice President.
618
00:27:42,748 --> 00:27:45,576
- Washington was stunned
today by the disclosure
619
00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:48,754
that Vice President Agnew
is under criminal investigation
620
00:27:48,797 --> 00:27:52,496
by federal authorities in
his home state of Maryland.
621
00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:55,761
- I am denying them outright,
and I am labeling them,
622
00:27:55,804 --> 00:27:58,459
and I think a person in my
position at a time like this
623
00:27:58,502 --> 00:28:03,682
might be permitted this
departure from normal language
624
00:28:03,725 --> 00:28:05,727
as damned lies.
625
00:28:05,771 --> 00:28:07,686
- Have you ever considered
stepping down
626
00:28:07,729 --> 00:28:09,862
even temporarily until
the matter is cleared up?
627
00:28:09,905 --> 00:28:11,733
- I have not.
628
00:28:11,777 --> 00:28:14,301
- A White House spokesman
would only say "no comment."
629
00:28:14,344 --> 00:28:16,825
- Ziegler sort of cut the
legs out from under him,
630
00:28:16,869 --> 00:28:18,566
saying in effect,
"Agnew's on his own,"
631
00:28:18,609 --> 00:28:20,611
so I called Haig and I said,
"What are we doing?
632
00:28:20,655 --> 00:28:22,178
"This guy's standing up
defending himself.
633
00:28:22,222 --> 00:28:24,180
Why aren't we
standing with him?"
634
00:28:24,224 --> 00:28:26,269
And Al said, "We got him taking
envelopes in the basement."
635
00:28:28,271 --> 00:28:29,751
I had no idea.
636
00:28:29,795 --> 00:28:32,536
- The case against
Agnew was so strong
637
00:28:32,580 --> 00:28:34,538
that it was just
impossible to ignore.
638
00:28:34,582 --> 00:28:36,453
We were really
worried about it,
639
00:28:36,497 --> 00:28:39,239
because the President
was obviously in trouble,
640
00:28:39,282 --> 00:28:41,676
well, we had this fear
that here would be
641
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,157
the Vice President raising
his hand as a witness
642
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,899
in his own trial and
the doors bursting open
643
00:28:46,942 --> 00:28:48,596
and saying, "Leave
your right hand up.
644
00:28:48,639 --> 00:28:50,380
You're the next President
of the United States."
645
00:28:50,424 --> 00:28:52,426
- I will not resign
if indicted.
646
00:28:52,469 --> 00:28:54,776
I will not resign if indicted.
647
00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:01,652
- Mr. President?
- Mr. Tice.
648
00:29:01,696 --> 00:29:03,785
- Should Vice President
Agnew be indicted,
649
00:29:03,829 --> 00:29:06,135
would you expect him to
resign or somehow otherwise
650
00:29:06,179 --> 00:29:08,311
stand down temporarily
until cleared?
651
00:29:08,355 --> 00:29:10,923
- Uh, the Vice President
has not been indicted.
652
00:29:10,966 --> 00:29:15,188
Charges have been thrown out
by innuendo and otherwise,
653
00:29:15,231 --> 00:29:17,320
which he has denied
to me personally
654
00:29:17,364 --> 00:29:19,583
and which he has
denied publicly,
655
00:29:19,627 --> 00:29:22,804
and to talk about indictment
and to talk about resignation
656
00:29:22,848 --> 00:29:24,806
even now--I'm not--I'm not
questioning your right
657
00:29:24,850 --> 00:29:26,852
to ask the question,
understand,
658
00:29:26,895 --> 00:29:30,159
but for me to talk about it
would be totally inappropriate,
659
00:29:30,203 --> 00:29:32,074
and I make no comment in
answer to that question.
660
00:29:32,118 --> 00:29:33,815
- Mr. President?
- Mr. President?
661
00:29:33,859 --> 00:29:35,774
Then with
both President Nixon
662
00:29:35,817 --> 00:29:38,254
and Vice President Agnew
under investigation,
663
00:29:38,298 --> 00:29:40,256
a Mideast war plunged
the United States
664
00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:42,171
into a global crisis.
665
00:29:42,215 --> 00:29:44,565
Egypt and Syria, supported
by the Soviet Union,
666
00:29:44,608 --> 00:29:46,785
mounted a surprise attack
against Israel.
667
00:29:46,828 --> 00:29:48,569
- It is an all-out war.
668
00:29:48,612 --> 00:29:50,789
That's how Israeli Defense
Minister Moshe Dayan
669
00:29:50,832 --> 00:29:52,965
describes an invasion
of the Golan Heights
670
00:29:53,008 --> 00:29:56,403
and the east bank of the Suez
by Syria and Egypt.
671
00:29:56,446 --> 00:29:58,405
The Yom Kippur War
triggered multiple
672
00:29:58,448 --> 00:30:01,625
geopolitical crises and
a superpower confrontation.
673
00:30:01,669 --> 00:30:03,410
Nixon ordered
a massive airlift
674
00:30:03,453 --> 00:30:06,065
of emergency military
supplies for Israel,
675
00:30:06,108 --> 00:30:08,763
angering Arab nations
and the Soviet Union.
676
00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:10,983
- The Soviet Union, according
to Washington sources,
677
00:30:11,026 --> 00:30:14,421
has started an airlift to
resupply Egypt and Syria.
678
00:30:14,464 --> 00:30:16,336
The State Department issued
a public warning
679
00:30:16,379 --> 00:30:17,859
to the Russians,
saying their actions
680
00:30:17,903 --> 00:30:19,643
could hurt U.S.-Soviet
relations.
681
00:30:19,687 --> 00:30:22,255
- Saudi Arabia
announced today a cutoff
682
00:30:22,298 --> 00:30:24,605
of all oil shipments
to the United States
683
00:30:24,648 --> 00:30:27,521
because of U.S. arms
supplies to Israel.
684
00:30:27,564 --> 00:30:30,350
Israel says its tanks
have pushed deeper into Egypt
685
00:30:30,393 --> 00:30:32,482
on the western side
of the Suez Canal
686
00:30:32,526 --> 00:30:35,224
and are now only
45 miles from Cairo.
687
00:30:35,268 --> 00:30:37,139
- U.S. Intelligence
now reports
688
00:30:37,183 --> 00:30:38,837
that the Soviets
have also given Egypt
689
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,143
35 new Russian fighter planes.
690
00:30:41,187 --> 00:30:42,579
- Secretary of State
Henry Kissinger
691
00:30:42,623 --> 00:30:44,625
has flown to Moscow.
692
00:30:44,668 --> 00:30:46,714
- The White House story
is that the Kissinger mission
693
00:30:46,757 --> 00:30:48,672
should not be seen
as a distraction
694
00:30:48,716 --> 00:30:51,893
from Cox or Watergate, but
rather that it's the result
695
00:30:51,937 --> 00:30:54,287
of a serious invitation
from the Russians
696
00:30:54,330 --> 00:30:56,593
for urgent talks
to end the war.
697
00:30:56,637 --> 00:30:58,378
In the middle
of the Mideast war
698
00:30:58,421 --> 00:31:00,684
and with Nixon's fate
still unresolved,
699
00:31:00,728 --> 00:31:03,296
the Vice Presidency
suddenly became vacant.
700
00:31:03,339 --> 00:31:04,819
- Vice President Agnew,
701
00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:06,995
bearing himself
as a tax cheat,
702
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:08,910
resigned today
under an agreement
703
00:31:08,954 --> 00:31:10,694
which protects him
from prosecution
704
00:31:10,738 --> 00:31:12,653
on charges of grafting.
705
00:31:12,696 --> 00:31:14,481
- As he left the court,
the former Vice President
706
00:31:14,524 --> 00:31:16,657
was publicly still
maintaining innocence
707
00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:18,224
of any criminal activities.
708
00:31:18,267 --> 00:31:22,141
- The reason that I have
changed my decision
709
00:31:22,184 --> 00:31:25,361
to fight this matter is
because that I believe
710
00:31:25,405 --> 00:31:29,235
it would be against
the national interest,
711
00:31:29,278 --> 00:31:31,933
have a brutalizing
effect on my family
712
00:31:31,977 --> 00:31:34,893
to go through a long,
two-year struggle
713
00:31:34,936 --> 00:31:37,634
concerning this matter.
714
00:31:37,678 --> 00:31:39,941
- What did you think
when you learned
715
00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:43,031
that Mr. Agnew had in fact
been taking bribes in?
716
00:31:43,075 --> 00:31:45,860
- Well, you know, I was--
I wrote him a note,
717
00:31:45,904 --> 00:31:47,949
and I said, you know,
"I think you set a standard
718
00:31:47,993 --> 00:31:51,953
"for courage in politics
by a Vice President
719
00:31:51,997 --> 00:31:54,564
that will stand
for a long time,"
720
00:31:54,608 --> 00:31:57,437
and I just told him
how much I admired him
721
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,439
and regret what was
happening to him.
722
00:31:59,482 --> 00:32:01,049
- It was a long, long time
723
00:32:01,093 --> 00:32:03,660
before they put his
statue in the Capitol.
724
00:32:06,185 --> 00:32:10,058
I mean, it was only a few
years ago that they finally--
725
00:32:10,102 --> 00:32:12,191
and it's still controversial,
726
00:32:12,234 --> 00:32:15,194
but every Vice President
has a bust in the Capitol,
727
00:32:15,237 --> 00:32:17,022
as you know.
728
00:32:17,065 --> 00:32:19,285
- Today we had
the Arab-Israeli War
729
00:32:19,328 --> 00:32:21,809
in full and ominous swing,
730
00:32:21,852 --> 00:32:23,985
and the astounding and
unprecedented resignation
731
00:32:24,029 --> 00:32:25,639
of the Vice President.
732
00:32:25,682 --> 00:32:27,554
We also face the
unresolved question
733
00:32:27,597 --> 00:32:30,165
of the President's
secret White House tapes.
734
00:32:30,209 --> 00:32:31,950
Judge
John J. Sirica ruled
735
00:32:31,993 --> 00:32:33,516
that the Senate
Watergate Committee
736
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,475
couldn't subpoena
Nixon's tapes,
737
00:32:35,518 --> 00:32:37,607
but Sirica also ruled
that the special prosecutor
738
00:32:37,651 --> 00:32:40,784
could subpoena them,
so Nixon continued to resist,
739
00:32:40,828 --> 00:32:42,699
and Chief of Staff Al Haig
740
00:32:42,743 --> 00:32:44,658
became Nixon's
chief explainer.
741
00:32:44,701 --> 00:32:48,096
- At issue at this moment,
General Haig, are those tapes.
742
00:32:48,140 --> 00:32:50,011
If there is nothing to hide,
743
00:32:50,055 --> 00:32:54,102
what in the world could
better serve all of us
744
00:32:54,146 --> 00:32:56,539
than for the President to
say, "Here are the tapes.
745
00:32:56,583 --> 00:32:58,367
"They prove that I was right.
746
00:32:58,411 --> 00:33:00,674
"They prove that
I was not involved.
747
00:33:00,717 --> 00:33:02,893
"The American people have
the right to hear those tapes.
748
00:33:02,937 --> 00:33:05,026
Let's settle this business."
749
00:33:05,070 --> 00:33:07,289
- Any President--
any President
750
00:33:07,333 --> 00:33:10,336
may have said things which,
751
00:33:10,379 --> 00:33:13,295
if brought to
public consciousness
752
00:33:13,339 --> 00:33:15,994
and brought to public light,
753
00:33:16,037 --> 00:33:19,258
could do severe damage,
not only to the individual,
754
00:33:19,301 --> 00:33:21,782
but even more importantly
to the institution
755
00:33:21,825 --> 00:33:24,132
of the presidency itself.
756
00:33:24,176 --> 00:33:27,048
- As Nixon
continued to resist,
757
00:33:27,092 --> 00:33:30,747
it was totally unclear
how this was gonna play out.
758
00:33:30,791 --> 00:33:32,488
We knew that a big
storm was coming.
759
00:33:32,532 --> 00:33:34,229
We just didn't know
from what direction
760
00:33:34,273 --> 00:33:36,188
or how bad it was gonna be.
761
00:33:40,453 --> 00:33:42,063
- When we were planning
what's gonna happen,
762
00:33:42,107 --> 00:33:44,109
who's gonna serve a subpoena
on the White House?
763
00:33:44,152 --> 00:33:45,719
How are we going
to enforce it?
764
00:33:45,762 --> 00:33:47,938
You know, who's gonna go
in to get the tapes?
765
00:33:47,982 --> 00:33:50,202
What if the President refuses?
766
00:33:50,245 --> 00:33:52,552
And we thought, well,
maybe we should take
767
00:33:52,595 --> 00:33:57,383
some of the key documents
and bring them to our homes.
768
00:33:57,426 --> 00:33:59,776
- I had done a
prosecution memo
769
00:33:59,820 --> 00:34:02,170
about all the evidence
that we had
770
00:34:02,214 --> 00:34:04,868
about President Nixon.
771
00:34:04,912 --> 00:34:08,133
I took a copy of that and put
in my grandmother's basement.
772
00:34:08,176 --> 00:34:10,091
Meanwhile,
the special prosecutors
773
00:34:10,135 --> 00:34:12,920
had been playing another
chess game with John Dean.
774
00:34:12,963 --> 00:34:14,878
They needed Dean's testimony,
775
00:34:14,922 --> 00:34:17,446
but Dean was demanding
total immunity in return.
776
00:34:17,490 --> 00:34:19,709
Archibald Cox didn't
like that idea,
777
00:34:19,753 --> 00:34:22,843
but he needed Dean, so the
bargaining went on for months.
778
00:34:22,886 --> 00:34:25,280
- Without Dean, it
wasn't absolutely clear
779
00:34:25,324 --> 00:34:27,021
that we would have a case.
780
00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:28,805
Besides the tapes,
781
00:34:28,849 --> 00:34:31,634
that was the next-to-last
peg in a hole.
782
00:34:31,678 --> 00:34:35,986
- John Dean was set
on getting immunity.
783
00:34:36,030 --> 00:34:39,860
Archie Cox, however, held
fast to the proposition
784
00:34:39,903 --> 00:34:42,993
that Dean, because
of his central role
785
00:34:43,037 --> 00:34:45,213
in the obstruction of justice,
786
00:34:45,257 --> 00:34:48,216
should not be granted immunity
787
00:34:48,260 --> 00:34:52,133
by any prosecution authorities.
788
00:34:52,177 --> 00:34:55,571
So he said, "I don't
care how long it takes.
789
00:34:55,615 --> 00:34:59,619
Dean does not get immunity,
does not walk free."
790
00:34:59,662 --> 00:35:03,188
And we set about
to find something
791
00:35:03,231 --> 00:35:06,887
that was prosecutable
but which Dean
792
00:35:06,930 --> 00:35:10,412
had not testified about
before the Senate,
793
00:35:10,456 --> 00:35:13,459
and finally Dean gave up.
794
00:35:13,502 --> 00:35:17,202
- For six months, Dean held
out for total immunity.
795
00:35:17,245 --> 00:35:20,596
Today, Dean settled for just
one count of conspiracy.
796
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,163
- Not going to have
any comment.
797
00:35:22,207 --> 00:35:23,730
I'm sorry, we issued
a statement in court,
798
00:35:23,773 --> 00:35:26,080
and that's available
to the press.
799
00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:29,170
- He agreed on his part,
that he would give us
800
00:35:29,214 --> 00:35:32,217
what information
he could, freely,
801
00:35:32,260 --> 00:35:35,133
that would be in help
in our investigation.
802
00:35:35,176 --> 00:35:39,920
- For Dean, there were
risks and pain either way.
803
00:35:39,963 --> 00:35:43,010
I think he had to make kind
of a global life choice,
804
00:35:43,053 --> 00:35:44,577
and he made it.
805
00:35:44,620 --> 00:35:46,231
Dean's
guilty plea signaled
806
00:35:46,274 --> 00:35:48,407
that he would
now be testifying
807
00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:51,018
against Ehrlichman,
Haldeman, Mitchell and Nixon.
808
00:35:51,061 --> 00:35:53,455
So now, control of
the tapes was essential
809
00:35:53,499 --> 00:35:56,937
to Nixon's survival, and
his back was against the wall.
810
00:35:56,980 --> 00:35:59,983
Not coincidentally, Dean's
plea deal was announced
811
00:36:00,027 --> 00:36:03,030
on Friday, October 19,
the day before Nixon
812
00:36:03,073 --> 00:36:06,120
faced a midnight deadline
over surrendering the tapes.
813
00:36:06,164 --> 00:36:08,514
- All day today,
Washington waited
814
00:36:08,557 --> 00:36:10,733
for the President's lawyers
to take the next step
815
00:36:10,777 --> 00:36:12,518
in the great and historic case
816
00:36:12,561 --> 00:36:15,216
of the nine disputed
secret White House tapes.
817
00:36:15,260 --> 00:36:17,175
- Midnight tonight
is the deadline
818
00:36:17,218 --> 00:36:19,394
for President Nixon to
appeal to the Supreme Court
819
00:36:19,438 --> 00:36:21,004
the order for him to surrender
820
00:36:21,048 --> 00:36:23,224
the White House
Watergate tapes.
821
00:36:23,268 --> 00:36:25,357
So Nixon tried
a last-minute gambit.
822
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,228
In our interview,
Patrick Buchanan
823
00:36:27,272 --> 00:36:29,361
portrayed it as a
reasonable compromise.
824
00:36:29,404 --> 00:36:31,232
- We didn't want to
give up the tapes,
825
00:36:31,276 --> 00:36:33,974
but we were willing to give
up everything on Watergate
826
00:36:34,017 --> 00:36:37,804
on the tapes, to
transcribe that
827
00:36:37,847 --> 00:36:41,242
and to make summaries of that
828
00:36:41,286 --> 00:36:46,160
and have that verified
by Senator John Stennis.
829
00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:48,380
Bur Mr. Buchanan,
ever the loyalist,
830
00:36:48,423 --> 00:36:50,120
left a few little things out.
831
00:36:50,164 --> 00:36:53,385
- It's called the
Stennis Compromise.
832
00:36:53,428 --> 00:36:56,083
Very devious.
833
00:36:56,126 --> 00:36:58,085
Very Nixonian.
834
00:36:58,128 --> 00:37:00,566
- We couldn't really
do a compromise
835
00:37:00,609 --> 00:37:02,524
that didn't enable us
to have the tapes
836
00:37:02,568 --> 00:37:04,222
as evidence at trial.
837
00:37:04,265 --> 00:37:06,224
That was sort of
the red line.
838
00:37:06,267 --> 00:37:08,835
So it had to fit
the rules of evidence.
839
00:37:08,878 --> 00:37:12,882
- The only relevant
and admissible evidence
840
00:37:12,926 --> 00:37:14,928
would be the
tapes themselves.
841
00:37:14,971 --> 00:37:16,408
And there
was another problem:
842
00:37:16,451 --> 00:37:17,974
Senator Stennis.
843
00:37:18,018 --> 00:37:20,455
- Senator Stennis,
who was Chairman
844
00:37:20,499 --> 00:37:23,328
of the Senate Armed
Services Committee,
845
00:37:23,371 --> 00:37:26,809
had the nickname
"The Undertaker."
846
00:37:28,768 --> 00:37:34,817
By reason of things
that those in authority
847
00:37:34,861 --> 00:37:37,429
thought should never
see the light of day
848
00:37:37,472 --> 00:37:39,561
being buried in his committee.
849
00:37:39,605 --> 00:37:41,955
- I've never seen the tapes.
I don't know...
850
00:37:41,998 --> 00:37:43,652
- But don't--
- How they gonna look
851
00:37:43,696 --> 00:37:47,700
and how difficult it'd
be to hear and rehear.
852
00:37:47,743 --> 00:37:50,616
Frankly, I've been told
that there's some there
853
00:37:50,659 --> 00:37:53,053
that's almost unintelligible.
854
00:37:53,096 --> 00:37:55,360
I mean, you can't hear it.
855
00:37:55,403 --> 00:37:57,057
- The President was
obviously desperate
856
00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:00,365
to get these tapes
back under his control
857
00:38:00,408 --> 00:38:02,541
and not have them released,
858
00:38:02,584 --> 00:38:04,673
and he was trying to think
of every way to do it.
859
00:38:04,717 --> 00:38:07,502
We were spending
practically the entire day
860
00:38:07,546 --> 00:38:09,025
trying to figure out
what to do next.
861
00:38:09,069 --> 00:38:11,071
- Sources close
to the negotiations
862
00:38:11,114 --> 00:38:14,248
indicated late today
that so far all efforts
863
00:38:14,292 --> 00:38:16,946
to reach a compromise on
the tapes case had failed,
864
00:38:16,990 --> 00:38:18,905
but Attorney General
Elliot Richardson
865
00:38:18,948 --> 00:38:20,907
was described as
"still trying."
866
00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:23,388
- I think Elliot
was trying very hard
867
00:38:23,431 --> 00:38:25,477
to work out a compromise
'cause he thought
868
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,088
that was his responsibility
as Attorney General.
869
00:38:29,785 --> 00:38:32,266
- Al Haig called me and said,
870
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:34,877
"We're gonna give
these summaries,
871
00:38:34,921 --> 00:38:37,967
and we're gonna tell Cox,"
who was balking,
872
00:38:38,011 --> 00:38:40,709
"that he's gonna have
to accept these,
873
00:38:40,753 --> 00:38:45,105
"and if he doesn't, well,
he can do what he wants to do.
874
00:38:45,148 --> 00:38:49,936
But if he persists,
Richardson will fire him."
875
00:38:49,979 --> 00:38:54,201
I said three words,
"Is Elliot aboard?"
876
00:38:54,244 --> 00:38:56,421
And Al said, "Yes."
877
00:38:56,464 --> 00:38:58,161
I said, "In that case,
let's go ahead."
878
00:39:02,688 --> 00:39:04,124
On the evening
of Friday, October 19,
879
00:39:04,167 --> 00:39:05,386
the White House
publicly ordered Cox
880
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:07,388
to stop pursuing the tapes.
881
00:39:07,432 --> 00:39:09,738
Cox refused, issued a
public statement himself
882
00:39:09,782 --> 00:39:10,870
and announced a
press conference
883
00:39:10,913 --> 00:39:12,088
for the next morning.
884
00:39:12,132 --> 00:39:13,916
- Anybody know UPI's number?
885
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,962
- Uh...
886
00:39:16,005 --> 00:39:17,616
- Jim Doyle from
Archibald Cox's office.
887
00:39:17,659 --> 00:39:20,619
I have a long statement.
Are you ready?
888
00:39:20,662 --> 00:39:23,535
"In my judgment the President
889
00:39:23,578 --> 00:39:27,147
"is refusing to comply
890
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:29,410
with the court decrees."
891
00:39:29,454 --> 00:39:31,760
- Friday night, the
President had sent
892
00:39:31,804 --> 00:39:35,460
a letter to Richardson
telling him to fire Cox.
893
00:39:35,503 --> 00:39:39,420
Richardson called Cox and
read the letter to him
894
00:39:39,464 --> 00:39:41,335
over the phone
895
00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:43,598
but said he was not
going to issue the order
896
00:39:43,642 --> 00:39:45,861
because he didn't think
it was appropriate,
897
00:39:45,905 --> 00:39:47,820
and finally on
Saturday morning,
898
00:39:47,863 --> 00:39:50,562
Cox held his
press conference.
899
00:39:50,605 --> 00:39:54,304
- Archie Cox lays
out why it is
900
00:39:54,348 --> 00:39:59,832
that he cannot accept the
so-called Stennis Compromise.
901
00:39:59,875 --> 00:40:05,490
- Some things I feel very
deeply about are at stake,
902
00:40:05,533 --> 00:40:11,104
and I hope that I can explain
and defend them steadfastly.
903
00:40:11,147 --> 00:40:15,543
I'm not looking for
a confrontation,
904
00:40:15,587 --> 00:40:17,589
and I'm certainly
not out to get
905
00:40:17,632 --> 00:40:19,286
the President of
the United States.
906
00:40:19,329 --> 00:40:20,983
- Mr. Cox?
- Mr. Cox?
907
00:40:21,027 --> 00:40:22,855
- Mr. Cox, so much has
been made of the tapes
908
00:40:22,898 --> 00:40:26,075
that I'd like to ask you
whether you consider the tapes
909
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:30,515
absolutely vital to the
case you're developing.
910
00:40:30,558 --> 00:40:34,432
- I think it is vital to know
whether they're vital.
911
00:40:34,475 --> 00:40:36,695
- Sir, you're rather
unique in our history
912
00:40:36,738 --> 00:40:38,131
because you've
personally rebuffed
913
00:40:38,174 --> 00:40:39,828
the President of
the United States.
914
00:40:39,872 --> 00:40:41,917
I'm sure it took a lot
of moral courage.
915
00:40:41,961 --> 00:40:43,789
How could you
expect to succeed?
916
00:40:43,832 --> 00:40:45,921
- Well, I thought
it was worth a try.
917
00:40:45,965 --> 00:40:48,054
I thought it was important.
918
00:40:48,097 --> 00:40:49,664
If it could be done,
919
00:40:49,708 --> 00:40:52,145
I thought it would
help the country.
920
00:40:52,188 --> 00:40:54,277
And if I lost,
what the hell?
921
00:40:57,324 --> 00:40:59,152
- Nixon called me
to the Oval Office,
922
00:40:59,195 --> 00:41:01,110
and I was in there
about 45 minutes,
923
00:41:01,154 --> 00:41:04,070
and he said, "We
have to fire Cox,"
924
00:41:04,113 --> 00:41:06,333
and Nixon gave me
the reasoning.
925
00:41:06,376 --> 00:41:10,946
He said, "I can't be seen
by Brezhnev right now
926
00:41:10,990 --> 00:41:14,428
as caving in to my
own Attorney General."
927
00:41:14,472 --> 00:41:16,561
Nixon did care
about looking strong
928
00:41:16,604 --> 00:41:18,563
to Brezhnev because
the Soviets were still
929
00:41:18,606 --> 00:41:21,609
supporting Egypt and Syria
in the Yom Kippur War.
930
00:41:21,653 --> 00:41:24,438
But Brezhnev was also
an excuse to fire Cox
931
00:41:24,482 --> 00:41:26,745
and keep control of
the White House tapes.
932
00:41:26,788 --> 00:41:28,573
- Richardson got a call
from the White House
933
00:41:28,616 --> 00:41:30,531
saying that the President
wanted to see him.
934
00:41:30,575 --> 00:41:32,359
He went over to
the White House,
935
00:41:32,402 --> 00:41:34,056
and the President insisted
that he fire Cox,
936
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:35,971
and he wouldn't do it.
937
00:41:36,015 --> 00:41:37,799
My assistant
came up and said,
938
00:41:37,843 --> 00:41:39,540
"The President wants
you on the phone."
939
00:41:39,584 --> 00:41:42,064
Well, it was pretty clear
what he wanted,
940
00:41:42,108 --> 00:41:43,762
and when I got there,
it was actually Haig
941
00:41:43,805 --> 00:41:45,720
that was on the phone,
it wasn't the President.
942
00:41:45,764 --> 00:41:48,854
And he said,
943
00:41:48,897 --> 00:41:51,726
"The President wants you
to fire Archibald Cox."
944
00:41:51,770 --> 00:41:54,250
And I said, "Well, I've thought
about it and I can't do it.
945
00:41:54,294 --> 00:41:56,992
"I think it's fundamentally
wrong what he's done.
946
00:41:57,036 --> 00:41:58,646
"Cox has done nothing wrong,
947
00:41:58,690 --> 00:42:01,257
"except carry out
his responsibilities,
948
00:42:01,301 --> 00:42:04,565
"and I just can't bring
myself to fire a man
949
00:42:04,609 --> 00:42:09,178
who's done what he's hired
to do by the President."
950
00:42:09,222 --> 00:42:12,530
And Haig said, "Well,
your commander in chief
951
00:42:12,573 --> 00:42:14,967
is ordering you
to fire Cox."
952
00:42:15,010 --> 00:42:16,577
I said, "Oh, come on, Al,
953
00:42:16,621 --> 00:42:18,318
"I know he's the
commander in chief.
954
00:42:18,361 --> 00:42:22,844
"I don't have to listen
to you to determine that.
955
00:42:22,888 --> 00:42:24,716
"What is he gonna do,
blow me out of my office
956
00:42:24,759 --> 00:42:26,195
if I don't do
the right thing?"
957
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,371
- We all go home,
958
00:42:28,415 --> 00:42:30,765
awaiting further
developments.
959
00:42:30,809 --> 00:42:33,681
Because it's
Saturday afternoon,
960
00:42:33,725 --> 00:42:36,249
I'm taking the
evening off.
961
00:42:36,292 --> 00:42:38,991
Nothing happens in
official Washington
962
00:42:39,034 --> 00:42:41,123
on a Saturday night.
963
00:42:41,167 --> 00:42:42,864
- What's your general reaction
to the developments of the day?
964
00:42:42,908 --> 00:42:44,736
- Well, there'll be
an announcement
965
00:42:44,779 --> 00:42:46,172
out of the White
House later on.
966
00:42:46,215 --> 00:42:47,565
I can't say a thing.
- There will be?
967
00:42:47,608 --> 00:42:49,088
- Does it have to do
with the resignation
968
00:42:49,131 --> 00:42:50,916
of the Attorney General?
- Well, it might,
969
00:42:50,959 --> 00:42:52,700
but you'll have to
get it from them.
970
00:42:52,744 --> 00:42:55,224
Excuse me.
- Thank you, Bill.
971
00:42:55,268 --> 00:42:57,183
- Although the Deputy
Attorney General
972
00:42:57,226 --> 00:42:59,315
didn't have much to say to
reporters at that moment,
973
00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:01,404
it was evident from
his appearance that
974
00:43:01,448 --> 00:43:04,538
something big was about to
happen in Washington tonight.
975
00:43:04,582 --> 00:43:08,020
- But, look,
I was 30 years old.
976
00:43:08,063 --> 00:43:11,806
I was--you know, thought
I was so sophisticated,
977
00:43:11,850 --> 00:43:14,330
coming from New York
and having been
978
00:43:14,374 --> 00:43:16,942
a federal prosecutor
for five years.
979
00:43:16,985 --> 00:43:21,642
I didn't know squat
about real power
980
00:43:21,686 --> 00:43:24,340
and how it might
be exercised.
981
00:43:24,384 --> 00:43:26,647
At 8:20 p.m.
Saturday evening,
982
00:43:26,691 --> 00:43:28,693
all normal
television broadcasts
983
00:43:28,736 --> 00:43:30,433
were suddenly interrupted.
984
00:43:30,477 --> 00:43:32,392
- This is Nelson Benton
at the White House.
985
00:43:32,435 --> 00:43:36,309
President Nixon has
discharged Archibald Cox
986
00:43:36,352 --> 00:43:38,833
as Watergate
special prosecutor.
987
00:43:38,877 --> 00:43:42,141
Attorney General Elliot
Richardson has resigned
988
00:43:42,184 --> 00:43:44,317
his post as Attorney General,
989
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,450
and when Deputy Attorney
General William Ruckelshaus
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refused to carry out
orders from the President,
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he was discharged as
Deputy Attorney General.
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Uh, the acting
Attorney General now
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will be Solicitor General Bork,
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who informed special
prosecutor Cox
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that he had been discharged.
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