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- McCord named John Dean as having had advanced knowledge
of the Watergate operation.
- Right away you could see the beginnings of an effort
to smear John Dean.
- I'm the low guy on the totem pole, and they thought they
could dump things on me.
- This was a Dean plot. - I know it.
- I didn't do it.
- Pressure was building today on President Nixon to appoint
an independent investigator.
- It kept looking worse and worse.
- John Dean has reported today ready to testify.
- They want war? I'll give 'em war.
I began by telling the President that there was
a cancer growing on the presidency,
and if the cancer was not removed,
the President himself would be killed by it.
I had let them very clearly know that I was not going
to participate in the matter any further
and I thought it was time that everybody
start thinking about telling the truth.
I, for the first time, said in front of the President
that I thought that Haldeman, Ehrlichman, and Dean
were all indictable for instruction of--
obstruction of justice.
I could tell that both Haldeman and particularly Ehrlichman
were very unhappy with my comment.
- John Dean starts out as a very flawed human being.
He was the typical suck-up and apparatchik.
He was blinded by the power
and the access to all that power can bring
and did not have the experience
or the ethical fortitude to resist the things
that he got involved in.
- John Dean has got to the bottom of page 90
in a statement that is expected to be about 245 pages.
So he's, uh, by no means halfway through.
He's been talking steadily for about two and one-half hours.
Almost every paragraph
contains some sort of a bombshell.
male narrator: The special prosecutors hadn't known
what Dean would say because Dean had refused to talk
to them without immunity, so they had watched
Dean on television along with everyone else.
- The statements that Dean was making seemed farfetched.
It was hard for me to believe that, um, President Nixon
who--say what you will about him--had this reputation
for surrounding himself with efficient
and no-nonsense people--
would be dependent on someone
as young as John Dean to be in a central role providing
advice about obstructing the investigation.
Clearly his assertions needed to be tested, um,
to the Nth degree in order to be proved credible.
But there was a powerful reason to think
that Dean might be telling the truth.
- He had a huge incentive to testify about everything
that he possibly could because he was testifying under
a grant of use immunity which meant that anything
he talked about or anything we found out about as a result
of what he testified to we could never use against him
in a trial.
- Meeting with the President on April 15th.
As I was driving into the White House,
I wondered to myself if the meeting was a set-up.
The President, almost from the outset, began asking me
a number of leading questions, which was somewhat unlike
his normal conversational relationships I'd had with him.
Which made me think that the conversation was being taped
and a record was being made to protect himself.
- After more than six hours
of unchallenged testimony yesterday,
John Dean returns to the Senate Watergate Committee
this morning to answer questions.
- These senators on both sides of the aisle know that
in front of the nation they have got to ask
the tough questions.
As you know, Frank, the senators are armed
with the White House material, logs supplied
by the White House, and they will use those logs
to try to, ah, jar Dean's story.
- You're fully aware, Mr. Dean, of the gravity of the charges
you have made under oath against the highest official
of our land, the President of the United States?
- Yes, I am.
- And being so aware, do you still stand on your statement?
- Yes, I do.
- Why didn't you, as Counsel to the President,
go to him at that time and tell him what was happening?
- Senator, I was participating in the cover-up at that time.
- Now you're testifying I believe under use immunity
that this committee has granted to you.
- That is correct.
- You would not be here testifying today had we not
granted that use immunity, would you?
- Probably be before the prosecutors, downtown.
- Now, you refused to testify before the Grand Jury,
I believe, did you not? - That is correct.
- You pled the Fifth Amendment there?
- That is correct.
- You have been bargaining with them for immunity, which has
not yet been granted. Is that an accurate statement?
- That is correct, Senator.
- The net sum of your testimony is fairly mind-boggling.
It occurs to me that at this point the central question
is simply put.
What did the President know,
and when did he know it?
Howard Baker became famous for that question,
but it was less sincere than it seemed.
- His famous question of
what did he know and when did he know it was really--
I spotted it as did Charlie immediately.
It was an effort to get me to perjure myself
by narrowing me down.
'Cause Baker had been told by then that,
"We think we can have a way to discredit Dean."
So that's why they tried to pull me through tape--
by conversation by conversation by conversation,
to which I under-testified.
Nixon and Haldeman had hoped to catch Dean
in mistakes about names, places, and dates,
which is why they wanted Baker to ask
extremely detailed questions.
But as Howard Baker listened to Dean,
he began to realize that Nixon probably couldn't survive,
and so the White House started losing its mole.
- He never really even tried to lay a glove on me,
because he didn't know what would come out.
Next, the White House argued that Dean
had masterminded the cover-up without Nixon's knowledge.
Nixon's Watergate attorney, J. Fred Buzhardt,
sent the Watergate Committee a long list of accusations.
- And as you know, Mr. Chairman,
the White House has prepared a memorandum
and a set of questions for use by this committee,
and so with that in mind, I wish to proceed, sir.
Dean's activity in the cover-up
also made him, perhaps unwittingly,
the principal author
of the political and constitutional crisis
that Watergate now epitomizes.
It would have been embarrassing for the President
if the true facts had become known
shortly after June 17,
but it is the kind of embarrassment
that an immensely popular President
could easily have weathered.
The political--
The political problem has been magnified
1,000 fold because the truth is coming out--
coming to light so belatedly because of insinuations
that the White House was a party to the cover-up
and above all because the White House was led
to say things about Watergate that have since been found
to have been untrue.
These added consequences were John Dean's doing.
- Well, Senator, I think that, uh,
my testimony answers, in great detail,
my dealings wi Mr. Haldeman, Mr. Ehrlichman,
and the President,
and based on what I know and knowing the--
the, uh, position I held on the White House staff,
there is no way conceivable that I could have done
and conceived and implemented the plan
that they're trying to suggest that I did.
- Relieved of his Watergate duties by the President
and aware that his own complicity had become obvious,
Dean decided to strike out on his own to hunt for immunity
for the long list of wrongs he had committed.
His increasingly shrill efforts
since that date to save himself
by striking out recklessly at others
are too familiar and too painful to require mention.
This ends the memorandum, Mr. Chairman.
- I would only add to that, uh, Senator,
I think that if anyone who has been on the receiving end
of adverse publicity, it's been this witness
and not any of the other witnesses,
and I have not dealt in personalities,
nor will I deal in personalities
at any time during these hearings.
- John Dean lived right across the street from me,
and I had the opportunity on several occasions
to talk to him informally.
I happened to be over at John's house
and I asked him at that time,
was there anything else, aside from what he had testified to,
that might be of interest?
And it was then that he showed me the, uh, the enemies list.
- These are from a file, uh,
that's entitled "Opponents List and Political Enemies Project."
- And, Sam, I understand you have a copy
of the enemies list that's been referred to.
- I do. I do, Frank. It's not complete.
Remember, Dean said there were several updatings.
- I'll first read their names first,
but then I will tell you more about them as inscribed here.
One, Arnold Picker of United Artists,
described as a top Muskie fundraiser.
- Ed Guthman, Managing Editor of "The L.A. Times,"
a former Kennedy aide.
"A highly sophisticated hatchet man against us in '68."
- Morton Halperin, leading executive at Common Cause,
and it says, "A scandal would be most helpful here,"
as a designation under him.
- Black Panthers, Brookings Institution,
Common Cause, Council for a Livable World,
Farmers Union NFO,
National Student Association,
Southern Christian Leadership Conference,
and I'm just skimming now, Frank.
- Don't skim, Sam. Go ahead.
It's all interesting.
- And National Student Association.
- Daniel Schorr of the Columbia Broadcasting System
in Washington.
The note here is, "A real media enemy."
- Apparently you're not on the list, Frank.
- Well, that's all right. That's all right.
Neither are you, are you, Sam?
- I haven't found my name either.
Let me just do one more--
I know you want to take it back,
but here's a celebrities list. - No, no.
- Carol Channing, Bill Cosby,
Jane Fonda, Steve McQueen,
Joe Namath, Paul Newman, Gregory Peck,
Tony Randall, Barbra Streisand, and Dick Gregory.
The White House apparently didn't like any of them, Frank.
- Didn't like Joe Namath, the football player?
- Well, his name's on the list.
It says, "Joe Namath, New York Giants, businessman..."
- New York Giants? - "And actor."
- Who made up that list? - Well, I don't know!
Is this the list? Is this the portion of the list
that's been turned over to you by John Dean
as being so-called enemies of the White House?
It is an addition to a list we got earlier.
- That would appear to be, Sam.
- I don't think, I don't think, Sam, it's all of it.
- That's not all of it?
Well, there must be 200 names on this list.
- There are more. - There are more.
- What is your understanding of what the White House
was gonna do to these people or try to do to them?
- Well, as you know, in some of the papers
that you've already seen, you've seen very derogatory
personal type of comments.
In other instances, you've seen the suggestive use
of the Internal Revenue Service.
- So your testimony produces quite a stir.
- 80 million Americans, that's what I was told.
The ones that blew me away is--
were when Sam Dash, who was apparently surprised also,
said I was--part of my fan club included people like
Elizabeth Taylor.
They were getting telegrams from people like that.
- He had done something that was stunningly brave,
to come out and take on
the President of the United States.
Think what it takes to stick a knife
in the heart of a president,
and there was no guarantee
that Nixon wasn't going to stay in power at that point.
- I'm quite aware of the fact that in some circumstances
it's gonna be my word against one man's word,
it's gonna be my word against two men,
it's gonna be my word against three men,
and probably in some cases
it's gonna be my word against four men,
but I am prepared to stand on my word and the truth
and the knowledge and the facts I have,
and, uh, I know the truth is my ally in this,
and I think ultimately the truth is going to come out.
- So he has given very damaging testimony.
As always, the question is, is he to be believed?
- The credibility of this man as the country perceives it
is so important.
The presidency itself could hang on it.
The committee forced Ehrlichman
and Haldeman to testify after Dean.
- Let's be clear.
I did not cover up anything to do with Watergate.
They denied everything,
and there was not yet any definitive evidence
against them, but they got nailed anyway.
- So there came a time when you were administering
an investigative unit?
- Yes, in a--in a literal sense, that's true.
- A literal sense? - Yes, sir.
- But not in an actual sense?
- Well, I didn't--
Here I am, dueling with a professor on the words.
- No, I'm not dueling with you.
I'm just trying to get a--
- Professor, if you say actual, it's actual.
- As soon as Howard Baker realized
that much of what was being said about Nixon was true
and based in fact, he immediately backed off
and became probably the most prominent questioner
of witnesses.
- When did you first learn of the break-in?
- On the day following the break-in
when I received this telephone call toward dusk,
late in the afternoon.
- Did you talk to the President on the 17th?
- No, I didn't. Not that I can recall.
- Did you talk to Mr. Haldeman on the 17th?
- I think I talked to him the following day.
- Were you concerned about it?
- Not--not particularly.
- If someone on my staff, even remotely on my staff
were charged with breaking and entering
to the Democratic National Committee headquarters
or someone I was even
associated with in a newspaper column,
that I would be determined to find out if that happened.
Now, was there this air of urgency in the White House
on your part or Haldeman's part or Dean's part?
It's not coming through that way.
It sounds like a routine staff operation,
but this wasn't a routine staff operation.
- Uh...
Point one, he wasn't on my staff,
but that's-- that's beside the point.
- Some believe that your questioning
was really for the first time a very strong,
hostile questioning of an administration witness.
Now is that a fair statement?
- No, I don't think it is, really.
If it is, it's an unconscious situation,
because I'm trying today
as I was trying when these hearings began
to treat everyone the same
and to pursue the matter as dispassionately
as very passionate circumstances will permit.
- Do you believe that spending political campaign funds
to pay for the defense of the criminal defendants
could embarrass the President?
- I don't know. I don't know what--
It depends on the circumstances and the situation, I think.
- What about these circumstances
and this situation involving the Watergate?
- I don't know that I can make a judgment on that.
- I'd like to submit to you a document,
"Re: Charlotte, North Carolina, demonstration.
"One, the most recent intelligence
"that has been received from the advanceman, Bill Henkel,
and the U.S.S.--" United States Secret Service, I gather,
"is that we will have demonstrators
"in Charlotte tomorrow.
"The number is running between 100 and 200.
"The advanceman's gut reaction is between 150 and 200.
They will be violent,"
with a penciled underlining of "violent."
"They will have extremely obscene signs,"
underlining "obscene."
And next to the word "obscene,"
penciled in writing which to me,
and you'll have to confirm this--
it seems to be the same as the writing
below your initialing.
It appears to be yours. If not, I want you to say so--
saying, "Good."
Is that your writing there where it says, "Good"?
- I believe it is, yes, sir. - Mm-hmm.
- "As has been indicated by their handbills.
"It will not only be directed toward the President,
but also toward Billy Graham,"
underlining--underlining, "also toward Billy Graham,"
where you penciled in "Great."
My question specifically relates
to exactly what mentality it is in the White House
that goes ahead and indicates good
when the word violence is mentioned,
when obscenity is mentioned,
which violence and which obscenity
is to be directed against the President of the United States.
How in any way can that be good?
- Slowly but surely as the facts came out,
the American people were scratching their heads
as to their own President.
- I think it reflects poor judgment on Nixon's part,
his, um, choice of people surrounding him.
- I follow it a lot, and I know that Nixon,
he's the head of it.
He knows everything that goes on in the White House,
and they say he didn't, but you know he knows all about it.
- Even if he isn't, you know, it bothers me
in the sense that he would surround himself
with the people that he surrounded himself with
who were involved in it.
Though increasingly isolated,
Nixon continued to fight, including blocking requests
from Ervin's Watergate Committee.
- I'll sit on those papers
if I have to burn every Goddamn paper in this house.
I spoke to Ervin today.
I said, "What's your goal, Senator?"
He'd written a letter demanding documents.
He said, "We want any activities
to do with Watergate."
And I said, "No, Senator. That's not happening.
Everything from your committee leaks."
I was decent,
but I was very tough.
- I think the press has had it, and they know it.
- As far as I'm concerned,
so we'll have a constitutional crisis.
If we lose, I'll burn the papers.
"Your council isn't gonna paw through my papers."
He got the message.
Baker was too soft.
He threw softballs to Dean, he mishandled Mitchell.
- That's bad, but actually it's working out pretty well.
Mitchell came across as a mature, tough guy.
- Really? - Yeah, and compared
to the selfish little bastards Magruder and Dean,
at least you could see why Mitchell was in a top job.
I of course believe what you say, but it's irrelevant.
90% of the stuff they're talking about
goes on all the time.
- That's right.
- Then you consider the massive things
you've done for the country.
The treasonable actions that these people condoned.
- They are treason.
- Taking 10,000 documents in the middle of the war,
attacking the military.
Mansfield cut off the funds for the war.
That is immoral.
- Well, don't you worry.
- I don't worry.
- Keep--keep fighting.
A few days later,
a Watergate Committee investigator
questioned an obscure White House official,
Alexander Butterfield.
Butterfield's answers were a huge surprise,
and they suddenly revealed Nixon's biggest secret,
something nobody had known, not Nixon's own staff,
not Woodward and Bernstein,
not the FBI,
not the special prosecutor.
- Subcommittee will come to order.
- My name is Alexander Porter Butterfield.
- Mr. Butterfield, are you aware of the installation
of any listening devices of the Oval Office of the President?
- I was aware of listening devices, yes, sir.
- As far as you know, did Mr. Ehrlichman
or Mr. Dean know about the existence
or the presence of those devices?
- That would be very unlikely.
My guess is that they definitely did not know.
- One last question, if one were therefore
to reconstruct the conversations
at any particular date, what would be the best way
to reconstruct those conversations, Mr. Butterfield?
- Well, in the obvious manner, Mr. Dash.
To obtain the tape and play it.
- I have no further questions, Mr. Chairman.
- We have just heard startling testimony
that the President's office,
the President's phone are all bugged.
- We heard about it as the nation heard about it.
That was a game-changer.
- John Dean didn't know about it.
He had been relying solely on his notes and memory
to testify to specific conversations,
and now there's a chance that every one of those is recorded,
every single word he spoke,
and he knows, as we did,
that if they didn't confirm exactly what he said,
he'd have no credibility and our case was over.
Nixon's lawyer, J. Fred Buzhardt,
was blindsided by the tapes because Nixon had lied to him.
A month earlier, Buzhardt had heard
that Nixon had offered to play a tape
for Henry Petersen of the Justice Department.
So Buzhardt asked Nixon about tapes,
and Nixon lied about them on tape.
- He said Henry had told him that you had offered
to permit him to hear a tape of a conversation with Dean
that you had on--had on Sunday, April 15th.
We did not comment on that.
- I haven't got a tape.
I don't have any tape.
- So that was a misunderstanding on his part?
- In fact, I haven't any notes on that.
- Had you known there was a taping system?
- No. - Did it surprise you?
- Yes, I--yes, it did.
It jolted me, it surprised me.
And a week after it became known, after I thought on it,
I sent Nixon a memo, I said,
"You're gonna have to keep the Dean tapes,
those conversations--"
Again, I didn't think they'd impeach Nixon.
I wasn't sure that-- did I believe Nixon.
"Keep the Dean tapes,
"keep the Brezhnev and all the other foreign policy tapes.
"Take the rest of them out and burn them.
"Take all the tapes out and burn them,
"and get rid of the Archie Cox and the--
"and the special prosecutor's office
"of the independent counsel.
"Shut the thing down because this is gonna grow
into a monster, and it will kill us."
- The White House today confirmed
that the President no longer secretly records conversations.
Deputy News Secretary Gerald Warren said, quote,
"The system has been deactivated."
- The Senate Watergate Committee
has just voted unanimously to issue a subpoena
to President Nixon for the tapes
that he's refused to release to the committee.
The special prosecutors
wanted those tapes too.
- There was discussion about whether this was a set-up,
whether the tapes would have been fabricated
or otherwise designed to lead us down the garden path,
but irrespective of that, we needed to get them.
First, Cox asked politely.
- I would urge that the tapes be furnished for use
in my investigation without restriction.
This procedure strikes me as the method
of establishing the truth, which is most fair
to everyone concerned, including the President.
The White House refused,
so Cox issued subpoenas.
- Special prosecutor Archibald Cox arrived
to tell the grand jury that the President
had declined to turn over the tapes,
but the grand jurors rose one by one
and confirmed it was their wish
to command the President to produce the tapes.
- We felt any conversations
that were in furtherance of a crime
were not protected by executive privilege,
and so we were very careful to pick conversations
that we felt we could make a very valid argument
were likely to contain conversations
about committing a crime.
- Traditionally, executive privilege has been enough
to deny to the House or the Senate
of presidential--
personal presidential communications.
- Since Cox is in the Executive Branch,
there is no separation of powers obstacle,
which the President could raise.
So while the Congress may not get the tapes,
Mr. Cox may get them.
The subpoenas to obtain the tapes
constituted Nixon's next crisis.
Once again, he responded
with a nationally televised speech.
- Many have urged that in order to help prove the truth
of what I have said, I should turn over
to the special prosecutor and the Senate Committee
recordings of conversation that I held in my office
or on my telephone.
However, a much more important principle is involved
in this question than what the tapes might prove
about Watergate.
Each day, a President of the United States
is required to make difficult decisions on grave issues.
It is absolutely necessary,
if the President is to be able to do his job
as the country expects,
that he be able to talk openly and candidly
with his advisors about issues and individuals.
This kind of frank discussion is only possible
when those who take part in it
know that what they say is in strictest confidence.
This principle of confidentiality
of presidential conversations is at stake
in the question of these tapes.
- The tapes argument occurred before
Judge Sirica first at the district court level.
The President took the position, through his attorney,
that he, as President,
could not be compelled to do anything.
- I'm sure that the President's legal position
is presented in good faith.
I think it's quite wrong.
- Judge Sirica ruled
a week after the argument in our favor,
but the White House appeals.
As the pressure on him mounted,
Nixon's public façade started to crack.
- Something seemed to anger the President.
As he arrived, he accentuated a command
to his aide, Ron Ziegler, with a hefty shove.
Meanwhile, William Ruckelshaus
left the FBI to become Elliot Richardson's deputy
at the Justice Department.
By then, they both realized that Nixon might not survive.
- And when I left the FBI,
which was in July of 1973,
I told Elliot Richardson that after being there
for three months, I had concluded
that the President was heavily involved in Watergate,
uh, pretty much up to his neck.
But as serious as Watergate already was,
Ruckelshaus and Richardson had also been
secretly managing another crisis,
one that made Watergate even more dangerous.
- We spent most of the summer of 1973
engaged in the investigation of Agnew.
Some prosecutors from Baltimore
came to Elliot, who was then Attorney General,
Elliot Richardson, and had told him
that they were receiving a number of witnesses
in a grand jury who claimed that Agnew
had received bribes when he was the Governor of Maryland
and then subsequently Vice President.
- Washington was stunned today by the disclosure
that Vice President Agnew is under criminal investigation
by federal authorities in his home state of Maryland.
- I am denying them outright, and I am labeling them,
and I think a person in my position at a time like this
might be permitted this departure from normal language
as damned lies.
- Have you ever considered stepping down
even temporarily until the matter is cleared up?
- I have not.
- A White House spokesman would only say "no comment."
- Ziegler sort of cut the legs out from under him,
saying in effect, "Agnew's on his own,"
so I called Haig and I said, "What are we doing?
"This guy's standing up defending himself.
Why aren't we standing with him?"
And Al said, "We got him taking envelopes in the basement."
I had no idea.
- The case against Agnew was so strong
that it was just impossible to ignore.
We were really worried about it,
because the President was obviously in trouble,
well, we had this fear that here would be
the Vice President raising his hand as a witness
in his own trial and the doors bursting open
and saying, "Leave your right hand up.
You're the next President of the United States."
- I will not resign if indicted.
I will not resign if indicted.
- Mr. President? - Mr. Tice.
- Should Vice President Agnew be indicted,
would you expect him to resign or somehow otherwise
stand down temporarily until cleared?
- Uh, the Vice President has not been indicted.
Charges have been thrown out by innuendo and otherwise,
which he has denied to me personally
and which he has denied publicly,
and to talk about indictment and to talk about resignation
even now--I'm not--I'm not questioning your right
to ask the question, understand,
but for me to talk about it would be totally inappropriate,
and I make no comment in answer to that question.
- Mr. President? - Mr. President?
Then with both President Nixon
and Vice President Agnew under investigation,
a Mideast war plunged the United States
into a global crisis.
Egypt and Syria, supported by the Soviet Union,
mounted a surprise attack against Israel.
- It is an all-out war.
That's how Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan
describes an invasion of the Golan Heights
and the east bank of the Suez by Syria and Egypt.
The Yom Kippur War triggered multiple
geopolitical crises and a superpower confrontation.
Nixon ordered a massive airlift
of emergency military supplies for Israel,
angering Arab nations and the Soviet Union.
- The Soviet Union, according to Washington sources,
has started an airlift to resupply Egypt and Syria.
The State Department issued a public warning
to the Russians, saying their actions
could hurt U.S.-Soviet relations.
- Saudi Arabia announced today a cutoff
of all oil shipments to the United States
because of U.S. arms supplies to Israel.
Israel says its tanks have pushed deeper into Egypt
on the western side of the Suez Canal
and are now only 45 miles from Cairo.
- U.S. Intelligence now reports
that the Soviets have also given Egypt
35 new Russian fighter planes.
- Secretary of State Henry Kissinger
has flown to Moscow.
- The White House story is that the Kissinger mission
should not be seen as a distraction
from Cox or Watergate, but rather that it's the result
of a serious invitation from the Russians
for urgent talks to end the war.
In the middle of the Mideast war
and with Nixon's fate still unresolved,
the Vice Presidency suddenly became vacant.
- Vice President Agnew,
bearing himself as a tax cheat,
resigned today under an agreement
which protects him from prosecution
on charges of grafting.
- As he left the court, the former Vice President
was publicly still maintaining innocence
of any criminal activities.
- The reason that I have changed my decision
to fight this matter is because that I believe
it would be against the national interest,
have a brutalizing effect on my family
to go through a long, two-year struggle
concerning this matter.
- What did you think when you learned
that Mr. Agnew had in fact been taking bribes in?
- Well, you know, I was-- I wrote him a note,
and I said, you know, "I think you set a standard
"for courage in politics by a Vice President
that will stand for a long time,"
and I just told him how much I admired him
and regret what was happening to him.
- It was a long, long time
before they put his statue in the Capitol.
I mean, it was only a few years ago that they finally--
and it's still controversial,
but every Vice President has a bust in the Capitol,
as you know.
- Today we had the Arab-Israeli War
in full and ominous swing,
and the astounding and unprecedented resignation
of the Vice President.
We also face the unresolved question
of the President's secret White House tapes.
Judge John J. Sirica ruled
that the Senate Watergate Committee
couldn't subpoena Nixon's tapes,
but Sirica also ruled that the special prosecutor
could subpoena them, so Nixon continued to resist,
and Chief of Staff Al Haig
became Nixon's chief explainer.
- At issue at this moment, General Haig, are those tapes.
If there is nothing to hide,
what in the world could better serve all of us
than for the President to say, "Here are the tapes.
"They prove that I was right.
"They prove that I was not involved.
"The American people have the right to hear those tapes.
Let's settle this business."
- Any President-- any President
may have said things which,
if brought to public consciousness
and brought to public light,
could do severe damage, not only to the individual,
but even more importantly to the institution
of the presidency itself.
- As Nixon continued to resist,
it was totally unclear how this was gonna play out.
We knew that a big storm was coming.
We just didn't know from what direction
or how bad it was gonna be.
- When we were planning what's gonna happen,
who's gonna serve a subpoena on the White House?
How are we going to enforce it?
You know, who's gonna go in to get the tapes?
What if the President refuses?
And we thought, well, maybe we should take
some of the key documents and bring them to our homes.
- I had done a prosecution memo
about all the evidence that we had
about President Nixon.
I took a copy of that and put in my grandmother's basement.
Meanwhile, the special prosecutors
had been playing another chess game with John Dean.
They needed Dean's testimony,
but Dean was demanding total immunity in return.
Archibald Cox didn't like that idea,
but he needed Dean, so the bargaining went on for months.
- Without Dean, it wasn't absolutely clear
that we would have a case.
Besides the tapes,
that was the next-to-last peg in a hole.
- John Dean was set on getting immunity.
Archie Cox, however, held fast to the proposition
that Dean, because of his central role
in the obstruction of justice,
should not be granted immunity
by any prosecution authorities.
So he said, "I don't care how long it takes.
Dean does not get immunity, does not walk free."
And we set about to find something
that was prosecutable but which Dean
had not testified about before the Senate,
and finally Dean gave up.
- For six months, Dean held out for total immunity.
Today, Dean settled for just one count of conspiracy.
- Not going to have any comment.
I'm sorry, we issued a statement in court,
and that's available to the press.
- He agreed on his part, that he would give us
what information he could, freely,
that would be in help in our investigation.
- For Dean, there were risks and pain either way.
I think he had to make kind of a global life choice,
and he made it.
Dean's guilty plea signaled
that he would now be testifying
against Ehrlichman, Haldeman, Mitchell and Nixon.
So now, control of the tapes was essential
to Nixon's survival, and his back was against the wall.
Not coincidentally, Dean's plea deal was announced
on Friday, October 19, the day before Nixon
faced a midnight deadline over surrendering the tapes.
- All day today, Washington waited
for the President's lawyers to take the next step
in the great and historic case
of the nine disputed secret White House tapes.
- Midnight tonight is the deadline
for President Nixon to appeal to the Supreme Court
the order for him to surrender
the White House Watergate tapes.
So Nixon tried a last-minute gambit.
In our interview, Patrick Buchanan
portrayed it as a reasonable compromise.
- We didn't want to give up the tapes,
but we were willing to give up everything on Watergate
on the tapes, to transcribe that
and to make summaries of that
and have that verified by Senator John Stennis.
Bur Mr. Buchanan, ever the loyalist,
left a few little things out.
- It's called the Stennis Compromise.
Very devious.
Very Nixonian.
- We couldn't really do a compromise
that didn't enable us to have the tapes
as evidence at trial.
That was sort of the red line.
So it had to fit the rules of evidence.
- The only relevant and admissible evidence
would be the tapes themselves.
And there was another problem:
Senator Stennis.
- Senator Stennis, who was Chairman
of the Senate Armed Services Committee,
had the nickname "The Undertaker."
By reason of things that those in authority
thought should never see the light of day
being buried in his committee.
- I've never seen the tapes. I don't know...
- But don't-- - How they gonna look
and how difficult it'd be to hear and rehear.
Frankly, I've been told that there's some there
that's almost unintelligible.
I mean, you can't hear it.
- The President was obviously desperate
to get these tapes back under his control
and not have them released,
and he was trying to think of every way to do it.
We were spending practically the entire day
trying to figure out what to do next.
- Sources close to the negotiations
indicated late today that so far all efforts
to reach a compromise on the tapes case had failed,
but Attorney General Elliot Richardson
was described as "still trying."
- I think Elliot was trying very hard
to work out a compromise 'cause he thought
that was his responsibility as Attorney General.
- Al Haig called me and said,
"We're gonna give these summaries,
and we're gonna tell Cox," who was balking,
"that he's gonna have to accept these,
"and if he doesn't, well, he can do what he wants to do.
But if he persists, Richardson will fire him."
I said three words, "Is Elliot aboard?"
And Al said, "Yes."
I said, "In that case, let's go ahead."
On the evening of Friday, October 19,
the White House publicly ordered Cox
to stop pursuing the tapes.
Cox refused, issued a public statement himself
and announced a press conference
for the next morning.
- Anybody know UPI's number?
- Uh...
- Jim Doyle from Archibald Cox's office.
I have a long statement. Are you ready?
"In my judgment the President
"is refusing to comply
with the court decrees."
- Friday night, the President had sent
a letter to Richardson telling him to fire Cox.
Richardson called Cox and read the letter to him
over the phone
but said he was not going to issue the order
because he didn't think it was appropriate,
and finally on Saturday morning,
Cox held his press conference.
- Archie Cox lays out why it is
that he cannot accept the so-called Stennis Compromise.
- Some things I feel very deeply about are at stake,
and I hope that I can explain and defend them steadfastly.
I'm not looking for a confrontation,
and I'm certainly not out to get
the President of the United States.
- Mr. Cox? - Mr. Cox?
- Mr. Cox, so much has been made of the tapes
that I'd like to ask you whether you consider the tapes
absolutely vital to the case you're developing.
- I think it is vital to know whether they're vital.
- Sir, you're rather unique in our history
because you've personally rebuffed
the President of the United States.
I'm sure it took a lot of moral courage.
How could you expect to succeed?
- Well, I thought it was worth a try.
I thought it was important.
If it could be done,
I thought it would help the country.
And if I lost, what the hell?
- Nixon called me to the Oval Office,
and I was in there about 45 minutes,
and he said, "We have to fire Cox,"
and Nixon gave me the reasoning.
He said, "I can't be seen by Brezhnev right now
as caving in to my own Attorney General."
Nixon did care about looking strong
to Brezhnev because the Soviets were still
supporting Egypt and Syria in the Yom Kippur War.
But Brezhnev was also an excuse to fire Cox
and keep control of the White House tapes.
- Richardson got a call from the White House
saying that the President wanted to see him.
He went over to the White House,
and the President insisted that he fire Cox,
and he wouldn't do it.
My assistant came up and said,
"The President wants you on the phone."
Well, it was pretty clear what he wanted,
and when I got there, it was actually Haig
that was on the phone, it wasn't the President.
And he said,
"The President wants you to fire Archibald Cox."
And I said, "Well, I've thought about it and I can't do it.
"I think it's fundamentally wrong what he's done.
"Cox has done nothing wrong,
"except carry out his responsibilities,
"and I just can't bring myself to fire a man
who's done what he's hired to do by the President."
And Haig said, "Well, your commander in chief
is ordering you to fire Cox."
I said, "Oh, come on, Al,
"I know he's the commander in chief.
"I don't have to listen to you to determine that.
"What is he gonna do, blow me out of my office
if I don't do the right thing?"
- We all go home,
awaiting further developments.
Because it's Saturday afternoon,
I'm taking the evening off.
Nothing happens in official Washington
on a Saturday night.
- What's your general reaction to the developments of the day?
- Well, there'll be an announcement
out of the White House later on.
I can't say a thing. - There will be?
- Does it have to do with the resignation
of the Attorney General? - Well, it might,
but you'll have to get it from them.
Excuse me. - Thank you, Bill.
- Although the Deputy Attorney General
didn't have much to say to reporters at that moment,
it was evident from his appearance that
something big was about to happen in Washington tonight.
- But, look, I was 30 years old.
I was--you know, thought I was so sophisticated,
coming from New York and having been
a federal prosecutor for five years.
I didn't know squat about real power
and how it might be exercised.
At 8:20 p.m. Saturday evening,
all normal television broadcasts
were suddenly interrupted.
- This is Nelson Benton at the White House.
President Nixon has discharged Archibald Cox
as Watergate special prosecutor.
Attorney General Elliot Richardson has resigned
his post as Attorney General,
and when Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus
refused to carry out orders from the President,
he was discharged as Deputy Attorney General.
Uh, the acting Attorney General now
will be Solicitor General Bork,
who informed special prosecutor Cox
that he had been discharged.
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