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- Five people have been
arrested and charged
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with breaking into
the headquarters
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of the Democratic
National Committee.
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- Part of a vast campaign
to undermine the election.
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- Well on the way
toward the predicted
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landslide re-election.
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- The Senate voted
to establish a committee
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to investigate alleged
political espionage.
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- Federal judge believes the
whole truth did not emerge.
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- If we don't end
this cover-up,
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it's only gonna
get more complex.
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- the Presidency.
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And there is no assurance--
- That it won't bust.
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- The continued success
of the Watergate cover-up
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depended on the burglars
remaining silent,
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which in turn depended
on the burglars receiving
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light sentences as
non-violent first offenders.
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But instead, federal
judge John J. Sirica
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threatened them with decades
in prison unless they talked.
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It worked, and the first one
to crack was the lead burglar,
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James McCord.
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- This was supposed to be
the day of sentencing
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for the seven
Watergate defendants,
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but instead the case
broke wide open again.
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Judge John Sirica opened
by saying he had received
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a letter from McCord.
Then came the bombshells.
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There was political pressure
on the defendants
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to plead guilty
and to remain silent.
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Perjury occurred
during the trial.
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Others involved in the
Watergate operation
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were not identified
during the trial.
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- "Los Angeles Times" said
McCord named Deputy Campaign
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Director Jeb Magruder and
White House lawyer John Dean
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as having had
advanced knowledge
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of the Watergate operation.
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- Why do you think McCord
is coming forth like this?
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- I have no idea.
I have no idea.
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- No comment at all right now.
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- Any report that Mr. Dean
had prior knowledge
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of the Watergate matter
is totally false.
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- I don't know a damn
thing about Watergate,
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and I don't want to.
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But where are the
civil libertarians?
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A judge gives somebody
a 55-year sentence
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in order to make him talk.
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Where's the protection
of the Fifth Amendment?
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- The poor bastard
didn't even have a gun.
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- It was a simple
case of burglary.
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First offenders.
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People who would
never do it again.
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- Trying to make them talk,
it's unbelievable.
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Well, anyway, don't you
worry about Watergate.
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- What do you think the
political repercussions
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will be if things
have been concealed?
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- I think the political
repercussions, Bob,
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are gonna be a lot worse if
we don't get all the facts
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than if we do get
all the facts.
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Now, there's where a difference
of opinion obviously exists
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between myself, uh,
and other persons.
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Uh, I think the nation,
the Republican Party,
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the entire political
system is hurt far more
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by facts being concealed,
by witnesses being shielded
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than by, uh, fellows like
McCord and others coming forth
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and laying it all on the line.
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- The Senate Committee,
of which Weicker is a member,
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met briefly today and decided
that public hearings
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would begin in a few weeks
with Watergate defendant
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James McCord, the
likely lead-off witness.
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Ranking committee members
Sam Ervin and Howard Baker
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still want White House aides
implicated by McCord
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to follow him on
the witness stand despite
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the President's objections.
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- Mr. Nixon has said that he
won't let his White House
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aides--present or former--
give formal testimony
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to the Senate since it's his
view that this would breach
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the doctrine of
executive privilege.
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- Executive privilege
is a doctrine that several
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Presidents have invoked
to prevent the disclosure
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of sensitive or embarrassing
communications between
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Presidents and their advisors.
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But the Senate Watergate
Committee was not impressed.
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- That is not
executive privilege.
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It's executive poppycock.
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- If they are--If they are
totally unwilling to come up
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and say--and tell
what they know,
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I think they should resign.
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I think this to be a far more
preferable tactic than to go
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down there and arrest them.
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- The best thing I could do
from the Republican Party's
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point of view, was to try
to protect the Republican Party
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as being distinct and
separate from Richard Nixon.
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- I want you to get
the goods on Weicker.
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I think we've got to play
a damn tough game on him.
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Have they done the checking
on his financial statements?
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- Uh, as best we can, yeah.
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- Is his income tax
being checked yet?
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- Co-conspirator E.
Howard Hunt reappeared
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before the Grand Jury.
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When prosecutor Earl Silbert
said that Hunt intended
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to take the Fifth Amendment
to all questions
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about the Watergate,
Sirica granted Hunt immunity
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from prosecution and ordered
him under threat of contempt
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charges to testify.
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- How do we handle the
presidential pardon thing?
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Just deny it?
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- By now, White House counsel
John Dean realized that Hunt
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and McCord would
implicate him directly.
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Dean also realized that he was
the only one who had dealt
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extensively with the senior
officials behind the cover-up,
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all of whom were
continuing to stonewall.
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This made Dean
uniquely vulnerable,
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but also uniquely
valuable as a witness.
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The first one to implicate
senior White House officials--
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not to mention Nixon himself--
would get the best deal.
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So John Dean's next step
was painful, dangerous,
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but obvious.
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- I decide I have
to break rank.
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I very quickly decided to
hire a criminal lawyer,
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Charles Shaffer, who was a--an
experienced former prosecutor,
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whip-smart, and we've
got a lot of leverage.
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So it was a very
interesting chess match.
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- Dean wanted to trade his
information for immunity
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from prosecution.
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But at first he didn't mention
Nixon because he feared that
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Nixon would learn about it.
And he was right.
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As soon as Dean went
to the prosecutors,
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they told Henry Petersen--
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head of the Justice
Department's
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criminal division--who
then told Nixon.
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- Anything further
you wanna report
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before our meeting tomorrow?
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- He's gonna plead
not guilty, huh?
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- Why don't I
get him in now
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and have a
talk with him?
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Is that alright with you?
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- I wanna be sure
you understand.
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We're gonna get to
the bottom of this thing.
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- What Nixon really wanted
was to stop Dean from talking
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by preventing him
from getting immunity.
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But as more and more
people became involved,
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Nixon started to lose control.
And he also started to panic.
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- The key is that Dean
should not get immunity.
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- Well, I couldn't agree more.
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- You have total control over
whether Dean gets immunity
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through Petersen.
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- I don't think so.
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- Well, the quid pro quo
for immunity is to reach
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one of the three of us.
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Or all of us.
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If he is not given immunity,
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he will have to clam up
and defend himself.
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- Well, what will
your action plan be?
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- Either suspension...
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or firing of Dean,
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an explanation of your
reliance on the Dean report...
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Its apparent unreliability.
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- Dean, what the hell
does he have with regard
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to the President?
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He talked to me about
the need for $120,000,
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clemencies, the rest...
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I said, "What's it cost if
you do it for four years?"
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He said, "A million."
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I sort of laughed and said,
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"Well, I guess you
could get that."
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- Now, is he holding
that over your head?
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- No, no, no, I--I don't think
Dean would get into any
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conversation he had
with the President.
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- He can't.
Executive privilege.
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- Executive privilege, period.
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But Dean could put
out something...
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With somebody else.
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Can Haldeman and Ehrlichman
survive it?
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But what does Dean know?
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What kind of blackmail
does he have?
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- Haldeman and Ehrlichman were
now afraid that Nixon would
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sacrifice them,
and so they started
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to threaten each other.
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- Petersen has said
to me that...
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Haldeman and Ehrlichman
should take a leave.
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- Petersen is up
to his ass with Dean
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in violation of the law.
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And you have knowledge
of that, too.
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- If I take a leave,
I am gonna very vigorously
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defend myself.
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One of the first things
I am gonna do...
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Is sink Petersen.
- No, the first thing is Dean.
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And if you suspend him
or tell him to leave,
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you've also gotta
take care of his files.
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- I am gonna have
to say that...
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Dean was the sole proprietor
of this project,
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and he reported
to the President.
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Now, I would have
to say that because--
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- Dean didn't see me.
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Till you said, "I think you
ought to talk to John Dean."
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- But, see, uh, I get into a
very funny defensive position
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vis-à-vis you
and vis-à-vis him.
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- Good evening.
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President Nixon in a
hastily arranged meeting
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with reporters today conceded
indirectly that administration
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aides might be involved
in the Watergate scandal.
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- Nixon's real goal was
to warn John Dean
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to keep quiet because he
wouldn't be getting immunity.
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- I have expressed to
the appropriate authorities
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my view that no individual
holding in the past
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or at present a position
of major importance
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in the administration
should be given
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immunity from prosecution.
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I condemn any attempts
to cover-up in this case,
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no matter who is involved.
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- As a backup plan,
in case Dean talked,
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the White House also started
to set Dean up as a liar
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who was making up stories
to get immunity
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and escape punishment.
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- Right away you could see
the beginnings and then
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the development of an effort
to smear John Dean,
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saying, "Well,
you know, this guy
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"is a very
questionable character.
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Look at his record."
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- The President is personally
conducting the latest
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investigation and he now
believes that his previous
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Watergate investigation
conducted by John Dean
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was full of holes.
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- They go round
and round and round.
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Where they keep coming out is,
"Let's make him a scapegoat."
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They don't say it that bluntly,
but it's the essence
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of these conversations.
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I'm the low guy on the totem
pole in their estimation,
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and they thought they could
dump things on me that--
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whatever they wanted to dump.
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- John Dean was the wrong guy
to play that game with,
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because his loyalty was
not to Richard Nixon.
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Uh, his loyalty
was to John Dean.
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- I had no hesitation
going against them.
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You know, they want war?
I'll give them war.
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- This morning without
the President's approval,
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Dean issued a statement
in which among other things
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he declared, "Some may hope
or think that I will become
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"a scapegoat in
the Watergate case.
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Anyone who believes this,"
Dean added,
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"Does not know me,
know the true facts,
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nor understand our
system of justice."
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- How concerned are
you about Watergate?
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Your own situation
regarding Watergate?
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- Well, I--I think I shouldn't
comment on that.
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- Uh-huh.
- The whole case,
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and that I wouldn't
want to do that.
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- But were you at all
involved in any--
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- No, I've said that
time and time again.
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- I have a completely clear
conscience and--and, uh,
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I think when the--when
the truth is known,
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the facts come out,
we get away from all this
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newspaper rumor and all
the television speculation
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and all the commentators
and so and get right down
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to the facts that I have
nothing to worry about.
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- I do.
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- People like whom?
Would you care to name any?
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- People like
Mr. Dean precisely.
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Any others over whom the cloud
of suspicion hangs so heavily.
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- It applies to anyone
over whom the cloud
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of suspicion hangs.
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The President certainly knows
who they are by now, I'm sure.
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- The White House is at a near
standstill today because
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staff members are in their
offices silent, frightened,
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waiting to see what
is going to happen next.
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- By this point, Kissinger
had secretly taped
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15,000 phone calls.
He later destroyed the tapes.
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Others were secretly
taping each other,
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planting rumors,
hiring criminal lawyers,
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and looking for new jobs.
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- I sent Nixon a memo saying
we're gonna have to address it.
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These stories
are breaking in the press
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and we're saying nothing.
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Dean is saying this.
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If Dean's not
telling the truth,
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we should be standing by
Haldeman and Ehrlichman.
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And if he is telling
the truth, um, you know,
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something's gotta be done.
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And, um, on the 30th, um,
Nixon dropped the hammer.
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- Today, in one of the most
difficult decisions
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of my Presidency,
I accepted the resignations
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of two of my closest associates
in the White House.
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Bob Haldeman.
John Ehrlichman.
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Two of the finest public
servants it has been
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my privilege to know.
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I want to stress that in
accepting these resignations
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I mean to leave no implication
whatever of personal wrongdoing
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on their part.
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I want the American people--
I want you--to know beyond
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the shadow of a doubt that
during my term as President
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justice will be pursued fairly,
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fully, and impartially.
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No matter who's involved.
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- That same day Nixon
also fired John Dean,
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Attorney General
Richard Kleindienst,
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and FBI Director
L. Patrick Gray,
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replacing all of them
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with people untainted
by Watergate.
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- At that moment,
I thought,
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"He's personally
involved."
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It's a last
desperate effort.
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Hello?
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Hope I didn't let you down.
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- No, sir. You, uh,
got your points over
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and you--you...
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Well, now you gotta move on.
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You're right where
you oughtta be.
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- Well, it's a tough thing,
Bob, with--with you, John,
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the rest...
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Goddammit, I'm never gonna
discuss this son of a bitch
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Watergate thing again.
Never, never, never, never.
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Wouldn't you agree?
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- Yes, sir.
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Well, you've done it now.
You laid out your position.
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You've taken your steps.
- Mm-hmm.
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- You're a strong man.
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And Goddammit, I love you.
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I love John.
- Sure.
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- All the rest, and
by God, keep faith.
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Keep the faith.
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Uh, we're gonna win
this son of a bitch.
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- Absolutely.
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- Well, God bless you, boy.
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God bless you.
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I love you as, you know...
- Okay.
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- Like my brother.
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- Well, we go on
and up from here.
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- Keep the faith.
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- Right.
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- Shortly afterwards,
Nixon secretly rehired
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Haldeman and Ehrlichman
as White House consultants
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and appointed General
Alexander Haig--
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previously
Kissinger's deputy--
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as the new White House
Chief of Staff.
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Haig was happy to join
the cover-up,
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00:16:10,578 --> 00:16:12,580
but life for Richard Nixon
would never be the same.
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And his next crisis came
only ten days later.
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Vernon Walters, the Deputy
Director of the CIA,
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had written memos called
memcoms documenting
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the White House's attempts
to use the CIA
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to suppress the investigation.
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Haig was able to
confiscate the memos,
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but Nixon was
starting to crack.
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- Some very fast actions
here this morning.
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Walters came in.
He gave me eight memcoms
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with a meeting here with
Haldeman and Ehrlichman
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and subsequent meetings
with Gray and Dean.
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When I read them, I thought
they were quite damaging to us.
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These papers can't go anywhere.
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We sent them back
to the agency,
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told them not to
take any phone calls.
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Return here immediately
with every copy.
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- Oh, what do these
deal with, Al?
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- With Dean's efforts
to get a CIA cover
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for the Watergate defendants.
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Haldeman and Ehrlichman's
discussion was having
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Walters go to the
Director of the FBI
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and telling him this
involved national security
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and he should quiet down
the investigation.
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00:17:13,293 --> 00:17:15,556
They told him to
go to Gray, but...
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He also quoted
a discussion with you.
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Which isn't helpful
for our purposes.
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I've got all the memcoms.
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00:17:27,524 --> 00:17:29,352
These cannot get out.
- Yeah.
364
00:17:29,396 --> 00:17:31,354
- Under any circumstances.
- Right.
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00:17:34,792 --> 00:17:37,969
As I told you, I was a babe
in the woods when they told me
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about this thing.
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I frankly thought
it was a CIA thing.
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- I know it.
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00:17:48,154 --> 00:17:51,722
- This was a Dean
plot, period.
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I didn't do it.
- No, of course not.
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00:18:03,125 --> 00:18:05,301
- Suppose I had.
Called him in and said,
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"Look, concoct a story
to the CIA
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and get Walters..."
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00:18:12,439 --> 00:18:15,442
Well, Goddammit,
he can't say that. It's...
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It's totally privileged.
- Totally privileged.
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00:18:18,271 --> 00:18:21,012
- And beyond that,
it's not true. It's...
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00:18:22,579 --> 00:18:24,929
It's terribly
detrimental and...
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00:18:29,282 --> 00:18:30,631
Let me see if we
can have Bob over,
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have him slip into
the EOB office.
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00:18:34,330 --> 00:18:37,507
- You don't want people
to see him talking to you.
381
00:18:37,551 --> 00:18:39,074
He could come in here easier.
382
00:18:42,164 --> 00:18:43,731
- You're all right,
aren't you?
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00:18:51,826 --> 00:18:53,306
- Nixon had hired a new
lawyer, J. Fred Buzhardt,
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to handle Watergate
at the same time
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that he had hired Haig.
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00:18:56,657 --> 00:18:59,050
Nixon lied to both
of them repeatedly.
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They pretended to believe him,
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00:19:00,661 --> 00:19:02,793
which made for some
bizarre conversations.
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00:19:07,885 --> 00:19:09,583
- How are you, boy?
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00:19:09,626 --> 00:19:12,716
Now, what have you got the fill
on this latest flack?
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00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,372
- Yeah, I just, uh,
just talked to Buzhardt.
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- The story is...
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00:19:24,685 --> 00:19:26,208
You didn't know the situation.
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And you at no time
ever suggested
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to Walters that Walters
should put out a cover story
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00:19:38,568 --> 00:19:40,222
that it was CIA business.
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00:19:42,050 --> 00:19:45,358
- I wonder if we ought
to look at Walters' memcom.
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00:19:47,229 --> 00:19:49,362
Because it will be accurate.
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00:19:49,405 --> 00:19:51,625
- It will be accurate.
Well...
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00:19:51,668 --> 00:19:55,411
Al believes it
will be damaging.
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00:19:58,109 --> 00:20:01,939
I want to be sure
that John does not indicate
402
00:20:01,983 --> 00:20:05,595
that the President directed him
to get Walters to get Gray
403
00:20:05,639 --> 00:20:06,814
to turn this off.
404
00:20:06,857 --> 00:20:08,119
- John would never
indicate that.
405
00:20:08,163 --> 00:20:10,339
- First, it wasn't true.
406
00:20:10,383 --> 00:20:12,515
- What the President
tells us to do is not--
407
00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:14,125
it's not for
public consumption.
408
00:20:14,169 --> 00:20:19,087
- Dean proves to be the guy
concocting the whole
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00:20:19,130 --> 00:20:21,045
Goddamn story.
410
00:20:25,963 --> 00:20:29,750
It could be terribly
jeopardizing.
411
00:20:29,793 --> 00:20:33,319
Whatever is in this
memcom, we were...
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00:20:33,362 --> 00:20:35,451
Well, the memcom's
not gonna get out.
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00:20:35,495 --> 00:20:38,498
It'll be burned first.
- Don't worry.
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00:20:38,541 --> 00:20:43,372
- But John must not indicate
that the President
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00:20:43,416 --> 00:20:46,810
said, "Set up a fake
cover with the CIA."
416
00:20:46,854 --> 00:20:49,726
Bob, we never talked
about a fake cover.
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00:20:49,770 --> 00:20:52,860
You know that.
- Well, that's right.
418
00:20:52,903 --> 00:20:58,257
- Well, I just wonder
whether there are copies
419
00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:00,607
bouncing around.
- He said no.
420
00:21:00,650 --> 00:21:01,956
We've got them.
421
00:21:01,999 --> 00:21:03,174
They're under
executive privilege,
422
00:21:03,218 --> 00:21:04,915
and they'll stay that way.
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00:21:04,959 --> 00:21:08,528
- I don't want Buzhardt to have
any implication that this
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00:21:08,571 --> 00:21:10,573
was basically a cover-up.
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00:21:15,361 --> 00:21:18,799
- I'm not worried
about Buzhardt.
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00:21:18,842 --> 00:21:22,846
- I want him to believe.
- He believes.
427
00:21:22,890 --> 00:21:25,936
- I think the President
means really believe.
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00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:28,025
Not just believe him
because he wants to.
429
00:21:30,071 --> 00:21:33,204
- No, I'm not covering
anything up, Al.
430
00:21:34,597 --> 00:21:37,992
This shows you
how naive we were.
431
00:21:41,387 --> 00:21:44,477
- Nixon and Haig temporarily
succeeded in suppressing
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00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,131
the CIA memos,
but federal officials
433
00:21:47,175 --> 00:21:50,091
were now terrified of being
identified with the cover-up.
434
00:21:50,134 --> 00:21:52,572
The result was an avalanche
of new revelations,
435
00:21:52,615 --> 00:21:54,356
starting with the
White House's attacks
436
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,141
on Daniel Ellsberg, who
was on trial in Los Angeles
437
00:21:57,185 --> 00:21:59,361
for leaking the
Pentagon Papers.
438
00:21:59,405 --> 00:22:02,582
- The Watergate scandal took
a bizarre turn in being linked
439
00:22:02,625 --> 00:22:04,758
to the Pentagon Papers case.
440
00:22:04,801 --> 00:22:07,195
- The judge calls us
up to the bench.
441
00:22:07,238 --> 00:22:12,287
He says, "We have here
a report that Ellsberg's
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00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:15,595
psychiatrist's office--
Lewis Fielding's office--
443
00:22:15,638 --> 00:22:22,732
was broken into by White House
officials two years earlier.
444
00:22:22,776 --> 00:22:24,778
For the first time
in two years,
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00:22:24,821 --> 00:22:28,216
the judge looks at me
in the eye and says,
446
00:22:28,259 --> 00:22:30,740
"Um, we don't have
to put this out."
447
00:22:32,699 --> 00:22:35,658
Meaning, that you had
a psychoanalyst.
448
00:22:35,702 --> 00:22:38,705
We don't have
to tell the world.
449
00:22:38,748 --> 00:22:41,316
And I said to him,
"Are you kidding?
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00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:43,274
Put it out."
451
00:22:43,318 --> 00:22:45,015
He reads the statement
to the court,
452
00:22:45,059 --> 00:22:46,974
and it's pandemonium.
453
00:22:47,017 --> 00:22:50,020
Everybody jumps to go to
the few pay phones out there
454
00:22:50,064 --> 00:22:54,024
because Watergate meets
the Pentagon Papers trial.
455
00:22:54,068 --> 00:23:01,118
- That to me was
so astonishing.
456
00:23:01,162 --> 00:23:03,773
Even with all we knew by then,
457
00:23:03,817 --> 00:23:06,080
that these people
would do that.
458
00:23:06,123 --> 00:23:08,691
- How can I be surprised,
just because it breaks the law?
459
00:23:08,735 --> 00:23:11,477
Just because it's against all
constitutional rights of, uh,
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00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,392
defendants and
private citizens?
461
00:23:13,435 --> 00:23:16,873
The message of Watergate--
as I read it--
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00:23:16,917 --> 00:23:19,528
is the same as the message
of the Pentagon Papers--
463
00:23:19,572 --> 00:23:22,923
that from the eyes of people
who work for the President,
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00:23:22,966 --> 00:23:25,752
all law stops at
the White House fence.
465
00:23:25,795 --> 00:23:28,015
And they are beyond all law.
466
00:23:28,058 --> 00:23:31,845
- Every day after that,
I could relive forever
467
00:23:31,888 --> 00:23:34,282
because there was a new
revelation every day.
468
00:23:34,325 --> 00:23:36,719
- The man presiding over
the Ellsberg case,
469
00:23:36,763 --> 00:23:39,200
Judge Matthew Byrne,
today confirmed that
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00:23:39,243 --> 00:23:41,420
Ehrlichman had offered him
the job of FBI Director
471
00:23:41,463 --> 00:23:43,378
one month ago.
472
00:23:43,422 --> 00:23:47,643
- Our judge, Matthew Byrne,
had been offered to be head
473
00:23:47,687 --> 00:23:49,166
of the FBI.
474
00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:53,083
But his chance of becoming
head of the FBI,
475
00:23:53,127 --> 00:23:56,565
if I was acquitted
on all 12 counts,
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00:23:56,609 --> 00:23:58,219
was zero.
477
00:23:58,262 --> 00:23:59,916
- So I think it's highly
improper that the, uh,
478
00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:02,310
judge met and did
not inform us.
479
00:24:02,353 --> 00:24:04,399
Uh, what's even worse, though,
is what was in the mind
480
00:24:04,443 --> 00:24:06,227
of Mr. Ehrlichman.
481
00:24:06,270 --> 00:24:08,621
- Judge Byrne did not become
Director of the FBI.
482
00:24:08,664 --> 00:24:11,493
Instead, Nixon appointed
William Ruckelshaus,
483
00:24:11,537 --> 00:24:13,800
who had been running the
Environmental Protection
484
00:24:13,843 --> 00:24:16,585
Agency since Nixon
created it in 1970.
485
00:24:16,629 --> 00:24:19,675
- I got the honest statement
from the President
486
00:24:19,719 --> 00:24:24,288
that no matter who was involved
in this matter that there would
487
00:24:24,332 --> 00:24:27,030
be no sparing of anybody
regardless of their position
488
00:24:27,074 --> 00:24:28,467
here or anyplace else.
489
00:24:28,510 --> 00:24:33,123
- I got a call from
Air Force One, uh,
490
00:24:33,167 --> 00:24:35,474
saying the President
wanted to talk to me.
491
00:24:35,517 --> 00:24:38,607
He asked me almost immediately
to become director of the FBI.
492
00:24:38,651 --> 00:24:41,436
And I became Acting Director.
493
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,657
- Ruckelshaus had a crisis
on his very first day,
494
00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:47,007
one caused by Mark Felt.
495
00:24:47,050 --> 00:24:49,488
But Felt underestimated
Ruckelshaus,
496
00:24:49,531 --> 00:24:53,013
which is why Woodward and
Bernstein lost Deep Throat.
497
00:24:53,056 --> 00:24:54,667
- When I arrived
there Monday morning,
498
00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:58,235
there was a letter on my desk
signed by all the special
499
00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:01,108
agents in charge protesting
my appointment as director
500
00:25:01,151 --> 00:25:02,936
of the FBI.
501
00:25:02,979 --> 00:25:05,982
And I subsequently found out
it was prepared by Mark Felt,
502
00:25:06,026 --> 00:25:07,593
was his letter.
503
00:25:07,636 --> 00:25:09,769
He wanted to be the
Director of the FBI.
504
00:25:09,812 --> 00:25:12,989
I was frustrating his desire.
505
00:25:13,033 --> 00:25:16,036
Felt was a liar.
I knew that.
506
00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:17,907
And a leaker.
507
00:25:17,951 --> 00:25:20,910
I confronted him with the
fact that I had been told
508
00:25:20,954 --> 00:25:22,521
he was the source
of those leaks.
509
00:25:22,564 --> 00:25:24,000
He denied it.
510
00:25:24,044 --> 00:25:26,525
He came in and--and,
uh, the next day and laid
511
00:25:26,568 --> 00:25:29,310
his letter of
resignation on my desk.
512
00:25:29,353 --> 00:25:31,225
- But Deep Throat
no longer mattered.
513
00:25:31,268 --> 00:25:33,575
Pressure from the Senate
and public opinion
514
00:25:33,619 --> 00:25:36,535
guaranteed the investigation
would now continue.
515
00:25:36,578 --> 00:25:38,885
Nixon had appointed a highly
reputable official,
516
00:25:38,928 --> 00:25:41,583
Elliot Richardson,
as his new Attorney General.
517
00:25:41,627 --> 00:25:43,716
But even that wasn't
good enough anymore.
518
00:25:48,416 --> 00:25:49,852
- Pressure was building today
on President Nixon to appoint
519
00:25:49,896 --> 00:25:51,767
an independent investigator
into the Watergate case.
520
00:25:51,811 --> 00:25:54,117
- The Senate refused
to confirm Richardson
521
00:25:54,161 --> 00:25:56,380
as Attorney General unless
he agreed to hire
522
00:25:56,424 --> 00:25:58,861
a special prosecutor,
and so he did.
523
00:25:58,905 --> 00:26:03,649
- In nominating me as Attorney
General of the United States,
524
00:26:03,692 --> 00:26:08,479
President Nixon charged me with
responsibility for uncovering
525
00:26:08,523 --> 00:26:13,354
the whole truth about
the Watergate case
526
00:26:13,397 --> 00:26:16,270
and related matters.
527
00:26:16,313 --> 00:26:21,231
I will, if confirmed,
appoint a special prosecutor.
528
00:26:21,275 --> 00:26:23,886
Although he will be in the
Department of Justice
529
00:26:23,930 --> 00:26:27,063
and report to me
and only to me,
530
00:26:27,107 --> 00:26:31,285
his ultimate accountability
is to the American people.
531
00:26:31,328 --> 00:26:33,113
- Richardson
chose Archibald Cox
532
00:26:33,156 --> 00:26:34,854
as special prosecutor.
533
00:26:34,897 --> 00:26:37,465
Cox was a former senior
Justice Department official
534
00:26:37,508 --> 00:26:38,988
and Harvard law professor.
535
00:26:39,032 --> 00:26:40,773
Cox seemed mild-mannered,
536
00:26:40,816 --> 00:26:42,949
but he would prove
to be very tough.
537
00:26:42,992 --> 00:26:46,256
And from now on, FBI
investigators would report
538
00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:48,998
to Cox and to FBI director
William Ruckelshaus,
539
00:26:49,042 --> 00:26:51,784
not to the Justice Department
or the White House.
540
00:26:51,827 --> 00:26:54,351
- Mr. Cox, do you feel that
you've been given enough
541
00:26:54,395 --> 00:26:56,397
authority to be
totally independent
542
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,877
in pursuing this investigation?
543
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,574
- I certainly do.
544
00:26:59,618 --> 00:27:02,272
- What if President Nixon
asked, uh, about the findings
545
00:27:02,316 --> 00:27:04,100
in the process of
your investigation?
546
00:27:04,144 --> 00:27:05,014
What would you tell him?
547
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:08,801
- Well, I would have to know
exactly what he asked,
548
00:27:08,844 --> 00:27:10,803
but I--I can't
imagine his doing it.
549
00:27:10,846 --> 00:27:13,327
If I thought it would
prejudice the investigation
550
00:27:13,370 --> 00:27:15,938
in any conceivable way,
I would tell him no.
551
00:27:18,158 --> 00:27:22,641
- Soon after Archie had been
named Special Prosecutor,
552
00:27:22,684 --> 00:27:26,470
he was assembling a staff,
and I was asked
553
00:27:26,514 --> 00:27:30,213
to come down and talk
about, uh, a position
554
00:27:30,257 --> 00:27:31,693
at the office.
555
00:27:31,737 --> 00:27:33,652
I was 30 years old
at the time,
556
00:27:33,695 --> 00:27:35,828
and had been in the
U.S. Attorney's Office
557
00:27:35,871 --> 00:27:37,481
for five years.
558
00:27:37,525 --> 00:27:39,135
- I joined the
Department of Justice
559
00:27:39,179 --> 00:27:41,877
in the Organized Crime Section
as a trial lawyer.
560
00:27:41,921 --> 00:27:45,359
I was there for several years
when Watergate happened.
561
00:27:45,402 --> 00:27:48,492
And I was offered a position as
one of the three trial lawyers
562
00:27:48,536 --> 00:27:51,974
on the Watergate prosecution
team, on the main case.
563
00:27:52,018 --> 00:27:54,498
I wasn't quite 30.
564
00:27:54,542 --> 00:27:58,546
I was raised pretty much
to respect the President
565
00:27:58,589 --> 00:28:03,203
and to revere the presidency,
but I had followed
566
00:28:03,246 --> 00:28:06,902
"The Washington Post" coverage,
and as a trial lawyer,
567
00:28:06,946 --> 00:28:09,252
it seemed to me the evidence
was pretty clear that
568
00:28:09,296 --> 00:28:12,516
this was not an
ordinary break-in.
569
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,910
- This is a fascinating chapter
in American history.
570
00:28:14,954 --> 00:28:18,087
If I can actually get to spend
a lot of time on this
571
00:28:18,131 --> 00:28:20,829
and get paid for it,
that's sort of a no-brainer.
572
00:28:20,873 --> 00:28:24,441
- Archibald Cox was a genius
at setting up the office
573
00:28:24,485 --> 00:28:26,226
and at setting a moral tone
574
00:28:26,269 --> 00:28:29,098
that no one else
could have set.
575
00:28:29,142 --> 00:28:33,276
- We basically socialized
in very limited ways,
576
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,628
uh, not beyond our own group.
We didn't talk outside.
577
00:28:37,672 --> 00:28:40,022
And when we mentioned
the President,
578
00:28:40,066 --> 00:28:42,721
we didn't use his name.
579
00:28:42,764 --> 00:28:46,986
We began referring to him
as Le Grand Fromage.
580
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:50,380
- One mistake and we could
all be--in effect--
581
00:28:50,424 --> 00:28:52,208
politically decapitated.
582
00:28:52,252 --> 00:28:56,212
And so the need to approach
this on a professional
583
00:28:56,256 --> 00:28:59,215
non-partisan way
was essential.
584
00:28:59,259 --> 00:29:03,785
- We just had to live life,
uh, as though we were
585
00:29:03,829 --> 00:29:08,224
under 24/7 surveillance,
which we may well have been.
586
00:29:08,268 --> 00:29:11,706
- I came home one night,
and the back door was ajar.
587
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,274
I called the police.
588
00:29:14,317 --> 00:29:17,451
And they came, and they
actually thought that my phone
589
00:29:17,494 --> 00:29:19,235
had been tapped.
590
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:21,803
I immediately called the FBI
who sent out a team,
591
00:29:21,847 --> 00:29:24,719
and they actually concluded
that there might have been
592
00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:28,941
a tap put on there that had
been removed at that burglary.
593
00:29:31,987 --> 00:29:35,425
- I spent, uh--well, I was
there about three weeks
594
00:29:35,469 --> 00:29:38,733
virtually every day
working with Cox,
595
00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:45,609
making assignments of the,
uh, FBI, uh, officials
596
00:29:45,653 --> 00:29:49,657
to the investigation itself
and then report back
597
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:52,921
to Cox on what we'd found.
598
00:29:52,965 --> 00:29:56,272
So I developed a very close
relationship with him,
599
00:29:56,316 --> 00:29:58,753
and saw what he was doing
and thought that he was
600
00:29:58,797 --> 00:30:01,451
being as careful as
he possibly could be.
601
00:30:01,495 --> 00:30:03,192
As the evidence
began to unfold,
602
00:30:03,236 --> 00:30:07,457
as I was reading on a daily
basis interviews that were
603
00:30:07,501 --> 00:30:10,286
being held with--
between the FBI agents
604
00:30:10,330 --> 00:30:14,856
and White House officials, uh,
605
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:17,816
it kept looking
worse and worse
606
00:30:17,859 --> 00:30:20,166
for the--at least for
the immediate staff
607
00:30:20,209 --> 00:30:21,950
of the President.
608
00:30:21,994 --> 00:30:24,083
- For the moment, the
results of the FBI's work
609
00:30:24,126 --> 00:30:26,259
for the special prosecutor
remained secret.
610
00:30:26,302 --> 00:30:28,739
But the Senate Watergate
hearings were another matter.
611
00:30:28,783 --> 00:30:31,264
The Watergate Committee
took its job seriously.
612
00:30:31,307 --> 00:30:35,137
And starting in May of 1973,
its hearings produced a series
613
00:30:35,181 --> 00:30:37,705
of stunning shocks,
every one of them broadcast
614
00:30:37,748 --> 00:30:39,185
live on national television.
615
00:30:39,228 --> 00:30:41,143
- Good morning.
616
00:30:41,187 --> 00:30:43,102
At this hour a select committee
of the United States Senate
617
00:30:43,145 --> 00:30:44,886
is about to begin public
hearings on something
618
00:30:44,930 --> 00:30:46,801
called Watergate.
619
00:30:46,845 --> 00:30:48,672
We interrupt our regularly
scheduled program
620
00:30:48,716 --> 00:30:50,109
to bring you a special report
621
00:30:50,152 --> 00:30:52,241
on the Senate
Watergate hearings.
622
00:30:52,285 --> 00:30:54,374
- Senate opens what is likely
to become the most
623
00:30:54,417 --> 00:30:56,811
serious investigation
it has ever made,
624
00:30:56,855 --> 00:30:59,379
investigation of the
American political system
625
00:30:59,422 --> 00:31:01,163
and the presidency itself.
626
00:31:01,207 --> 00:31:05,124
- Those hearings were
run on every network.
627
00:31:05,167 --> 00:31:07,517
In the news room,
you would walk through
628
00:31:07,561 --> 00:31:10,999
and there'd be little TV sets
running the hearings.
629
00:31:11,043 --> 00:31:13,175
You'd go down, get in the cab,
and the cab driver
630
00:31:13,219 --> 00:31:16,135
would have the hearings
on in the radio.
631
00:31:16,178 --> 00:31:20,008
You go up to the hill in some
Senate office and the little
632
00:31:20,052 --> 00:31:23,403
TV would have the hearings on.
633
00:31:23,446 --> 00:31:26,449
- People were planning
their days around it.
634
00:31:26,493 --> 00:31:29,975
Uh, they weren't going to work
to watch some of this stuff.
635
00:31:30,018 --> 00:31:33,456
It just captured the country.
636
00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:35,502
- The questions that have
been raised in the wake
637
00:31:35,545 --> 00:31:38,679
of the June 17 break-in strike
at the very under guarding
638
00:31:38,722 --> 00:31:40,376
of our democracy.
639
00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:42,552
And if these allegations
prove to be true,
640
00:31:42,596 --> 00:31:45,381
what they were seeking to steal
was not the jewels, money,
641
00:31:45,425 --> 00:31:47,949
or the property
of American citizens,
642
00:31:47,993 --> 00:31:50,038
but something much
more valuable:
643
00:31:50,082 --> 00:31:51,866
their most precious heritage,
644
00:31:51,910 --> 00:31:54,390
the right to vote
in the free election.
645
00:31:54,434 --> 00:31:57,698
- So the story to come
has its significance...
646
00:31:59,352 --> 00:32:03,878
Not in the acts of men
breaking and entering
647
00:32:03,922 --> 00:32:05,227
and bugging the Watergate.
648
00:32:07,099 --> 00:32:09,928
But in the acts of men
649
00:32:09,971 --> 00:32:15,455
who almost--who
almost--stole America.
650
00:32:15,498 --> 00:32:18,153
- Mr. Robert Odle is to be
the first, uh, witness.
651
00:32:18,197 --> 00:32:20,286
He is the former office
manager of the Committee
652
00:32:20,329 --> 00:32:22,375
for the Re-election
of the President.
653
00:32:22,418 --> 00:32:24,943
- I saw Mr. Liddy,
as I testified at the trial.
654
00:32:24,986 --> 00:32:26,335
- Did he call you or
did you call him?
655
00:32:26,379 --> 00:32:28,729
- No, sir. I did--
nobody called anybody.
656
00:32:28,772 --> 00:32:30,644
I saw him in the hall.
- I see.
657
00:32:30,687 --> 00:32:33,429
- And, uh, he asked me where
the paper shredder was.
658
00:32:33,473 --> 00:32:34,474
- What--What?
659
00:32:34,517 --> 00:32:35,388
The paper shredder.
660
00:32:35,431 --> 00:32:37,085
- All right.
661
00:32:37,129 --> 00:32:39,783
- He later came out and said,
"How do you work it?"
662
00:32:39,827 --> 00:32:41,307
And I said,
"You press the button."
663
00:32:44,092 --> 00:32:46,921
And then later on I saw
him with a pile of papers,
664
00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:48,792
perhaps a foot high.
665
00:32:48,836 --> 00:32:50,185
- And what was he
doing with it?
666
00:32:50,229 --> 00:32:52,405
- He was on his way
into the shredding room.
667
00:32:58,193 --> 00:33:00,108
- The first bombshell came
on just the second day
668
00:33:00,152 --> 00:33:01,631
of the hearings with the
testimony of Watergate burglar
669
00:33:01,675 --> 00:33:04,069
James McCord, whose letter
to Judge Sirica
670
00:33:04,112 --> 00:33:05,679
had first exposed
the cover-up.
671
00:33:05,722 --> 00:33:09,509
- I would like to state that,
uh, my participation
672
00:33:09,552 --> 00:33:12,860
in the Watergate operation
was a mistake
673
00:33:12,903 --> 00:33:15,428
and a very grave mistake,
which I regret.
674
00:33:15,471 --> 00:33:17,125
I'm ready to proceed
with the questions.
675
00:33:17,169 --> 00:33:19,084
- All right, uh, now,
will you tell the committee,
676
00:33:19,127 --> 00:33:22,826
Mr. McCord, why after
a lifetime of work
677
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:26,134
as a law enforcement officer
without, as you testified,
678
00:33:26,178 --> 00:33:30,138
any blemish on your career,
did you agree with Mr. Liddy
679
00:33:30,182 --> 00:33:32,532
to engage in his
program of burglaries
680
00:33:32,575 --> 00:33:34,229
and illegal wiretapping?
681
00:33:34,273 --> 00:33:39,626
- The Attorney General himself,
Mr. John Mitchell,
682
00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:46,111
at his offices--had considered
and approved the operation...
683
00:33:47,242 --> 00:33:49,027
According to Mr. Liddy.
684
00:33:50,593 --> 00:33:53,379
Secondly, that the counsel
for the President,
685
00:33:53,422 --> 00:33:56,295
Mr. John Dean,
had participated.
686
00:33:56,338 --> 00:34:00,821
- After your arrest that
you have testified to,
687
00:34:00,864 --> 00:34:02,692
did you receive any money?
688
00:34:02,736 --> 00:34:04,433
- Yes, I did.
689
00:34:04,477 --> 00:34:06,261
- Did you have any knowledge,
information, or belief
690
00:34:06,305 --> 00:34:09,090
as to from where
this money came from?
691
00:34:09,134 --> 00:34:11,049
- I was told that it came
from the Committee
692
00:34:11,092 --> 00:34:13,399
to Re-elect the President
by Mrs. Hunt.
693
00:34:14,791 --> 00:34:15,749
- Uh...
694
00:34:17,403 --> 00:34:22,712
Did you receive any pressures,
suggestions from any person
695
00:34:22,756 --> 00:34:27,021
concerning what you should do
about that trial with regard
696
00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:29,806
to your plea, behavior,
or conduct?
697
00:34:29,850 --> 00:34:31,678
- Yes, I did.
698
00:34:31,721 --> 00:34:34,507
- Up to this point, McCord
had testified as expected.
699
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:37,162
But now, on just the second
day of the Watergate hearings,
700
00:34:37,205 --> 00:34:40,600
McCord had a surprise--
a big surprise.
701
00:34:40,643 --> 00:34:43,951
- Political pressure from the
White House was conveyed to me
702
00:34:43,994 --> 00:34:46,214
in January 1973...
703
00:34:48,216 --> 00:34:51,132
By John Caulfield
to remain silent...
704
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,660
Take executive clemency by
going off to prison quietly...
705
00:34:59,488 --> 00:35:01,708
And I was told
that while there,
706
00:35:01,751 --> 00:35:05,842
I would receive financial aid
and later rehabilitation
707
00:35:05,886 --> 00:35:08,758
and a job.
708
00:35:08,802 --> 00:35:15,635
I was further told in a January
meeting in 1973 with Caulfield
709
00:35:15,678 --> 00:35:18,333
that the President
of the United States
710
00:35:18,377 --> 00:35:19,856
was aware of our meeting...
711
00:35:21,423 --> 00:35:24,948
That the results
of the meeting would be
712
00:35:24,992 --> 00:35:28,343
conveyed to the President,
and that a future--
713
00:35:28,387 --> 00:35:31,651
at a future meeting,
there would likely be
714
00:35:31,694 --> 00:35:35,263
a personal message from
the President himself.
715
00:35:35,307 --> 00:35:36,612
- You appeared, of course,
716
00:35:36,656 --> 00:35:38,136
before the
Senate Select Committee
717
00:35:38,179 --> 00:35:40,355
some weeks ago
for a whole afternoon.
718
00:35:41,704 --> 00:35:45,491
And yet this very important
testimony here
719
00:35:45,534 --> 00:35:48,581
which involves
executive clemency,
720
00:35:48,624 --> 00:35:50,670
including the President
of the United States,
721
00:35:50,713 --> 00:35:53,847
we just learned
about two days ago.
722
00:35:53,890 --> 00:35:55,849
Why the lateness of this?
723
00:35:55,892 --> 00:35:58,591
Why didn't you inform
us before this?
724
00:35:58,634 --> 00:36:00,419
- I believe I stated
the reason:
725
00:36:00,462 --> 00:36:02,899
because it
involved directly,
726
00:36:02,943 --> 00:36:06,729
in my opinion, the President
of the United States.
727
00:36:11,865 --> 00:36:16,217
- What made you think
Mr. Caulfield had a part
728
00:36:16,261 --> 00:36:19,177
in offering executive
clemency to you?
729
00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:21,918
- Because he told me...
730
00:36:23,877 --> 00:36:27,533
That he was conveying a message
from the very top level
731
00:36:27,576 --> 00:36:28,838
of the White House.
732
00:36:28,882 --> 00:36:30,666
- You assumed when
he said "top level"
733
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:32,015
that meant the President
of the United States.
734
00:36:32,059 --> 00:36:33,495
Is that what you thought?
735
00:36:33,539 --> 00:36:36,019
- I assumed it meant one
of three people, sir.
736
00:36:36,063 --> 00:36:37,673
- All right, name 'em.
737
00:36:37,717 --> 00:36:41,895
- Mr. Haldeman, Mr. Ehrlichman,
or the President.
738
00:36:41,938 --> 00:36:45,333
- This is, I believe,
the first time there has been
739
00:36:45,377 --> 00:36:49,642
publicly sworn testimony
attributing knowledge
740
00:36:49,685 --> 00:36:51,948
of this whole mess--or
at least of the cover-up--
741
00:36:51,992 --> 00:36:53,733
to the President.
742
00:36:53,776 --> 00:36:55,387
- The Caulfield
testimony will be
743
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:57,127
particularly interesting
this afternoon.
744
00:36:57,171 --> 00:36:58,999
It will be the first, uh,
opportunity of course
745
00:36:59,042 --> 00:37:02,829
to question anybody about
what McCord has said.
746
00:37:02,872 --> 00:37:05,397
- Jack Caulfield had performed
some of the White House's
747
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,225
early dirty tricks.
748
00:37:07,268 --> 00:37:09,792
Later, he helped John Dean
manage the cover-up
749
00:37:09,836 --> 00:37:11,968
and the payoffs to
the Watergate burglars.
750
00:37:12,012 --> 00:37:15,581
- You do know, do you not,
that the President is the only
751
00:37:15,624 --> 00:37:18,497
person in this country who can
grant executive clemency
752
00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:19,672
in a federal criminal matter?
753
00:37:19,715 --> 00:37:21,717
- Yes, sir, I do.
754
00:37:21,761 --> 00:37:26,113
- Did you understand when you
were speaking with Mr. Dean
755
00:37:26,156 --> 00:37:29,986
that Mr. Dean wanted you
to transmit the message
756
00:37:30,030 --> 00:37:32,728
to Mr. McCord that the offer
of executive clemency
757
00:37:32,772 --> 00:37:35,035
was made with proper authority?
758
00:37:35,078 --> 00:37:36,863
- Yes, sir.
759
00:37:36,906 --> 00:37:39,735
But of course I have no and
did not at that time have any
760
00:37:39,779 --> 00:37:43,783
direct knowledge that
the President, uh, had made
761
00:37:43,826 --> 00:37:45,698
such an offer,
endorsed such an offer,
762
00:37:45,741 --> 00:37:47,265
or in any way was involved
in that offer.
763
00:37:47,308 --> 00:37:48,918
- Oh, I understand that.
- Right.
764
00:37:48,962 --> 00:37:52,400
- And you were being asked
to do this because of your
765
00:37:52,444 --> 00:37:53,488
friendly relationship
with Mr. McCord?
766
00:37:53,532 --> 00:37:55,055
- That's correct.
767
00:37:55,098 --> 00:37:57,579
- I've no further questions,
Mr. Chairman.
768
00:37:57,623 --> 00:38:01,409
- Mr. Caulfield, explain
to me why it is...
769
00:38:01,453 --> 00:38:05,065
why it is that you thought you
were doing a great service.
770
00:38:08,155 --> 00:38:11,158
- I place a high
value upon loyalty.
771
00:38:14,683 --> 00:38:16,032
Now, out of the blue...
772
00:38:17,469 --> 00:38:21,603
I'm injected
into this scandal;
773
00:38:21,647 --> 00:38:24,127
I'm being asked by one
of my former superiors...
774
00:38:27,392 --> 00:38:30,438
To deliver a message that I
know to be executive clemency.
775
00:38:33,354 --> 00:38:34,486
I tried to avoid it.
776
00:38:36,357 --> 00:38:37,532
I was not successful.
777
00:38:39,099 --> 00:38:41,144
I was brought back
in again to it,
778
00:38:41,188 --> 00:38:44,670
now being asked to see
Mr. McCord directly.
779
00:38:44,713 --> 00:38:46,367
I did go to see him.
780
00:38:46,411 --> 00:38:49,979
Now I'm becoming further
implicated into this matter.
781
00:38:50,023 --> 00:38:54,157
I had this conversation with
John Dean, who's the counsel
782
00:38:54,201 --> 00:38:57,378
to the President.
I've been there three years.
783
00:38:59,162 --> 00:39:01,339
I know what the relations
are and how they exist.
784
00:39:01,382 --> 00:39:05,386
I make certain judgments based
upon those relationships.
785
00:39:07,127 --> 00:39:10,043
In my mind, I felt
that the President
786
00:39:10,086 --> 00:39:12,480
probably did know about it.
787
00:39:12,524 --> 00:39:13,481
I had to think about that.
788
00:39:15,091 --> 00:39:17,180
And based upon all of tho--
that background,
789
00:39:17,224 --> 00:39:19,226
I believed I was doing
something for the President
790
00:39:19,269 --> 00:39:22,011
of the United States,
and I did it, sir.
791
00:39:24,492 --> 00:39:27,147
- It was--It was shattering
testimony today
792
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:30,106
from Caulfield.
He knew it was wrong.
793
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:31,891
And yet he went ahead
and did it.
794
00:39:31,934 --> 00:39:35,068
And he assumed that, uh,
he was being given these
795
00:39:35,111 --> 00:39:37,679
instructions on behalf
of the President.
796
00:39:37,723 --> 00:39:39,202
- Do you think this
is an appropriate moment
797
00:39:39,246 --> 00:39:41,030
for the President to, uh,
start, uh, giving some
798
00:39:41,074 --> 00:39:42,858
statements to the committee?
799
00:39:42,902 --> 00:39:44,469
- I wouldn't touch that one
with a ten-foot pole.
800
00:39:51,432 --> 00:39:53,303
- As you know, the President,
uh, issued a lengthy statement
801
00:39:53,347 --> 00:39:55,958
yesterday in which he said that
at no time did he authorize
802
00:39:56,002 --> 00:39:58,047
any offer of executive
clemency to any
803
00:39:58,091 --> 00:40:00,049
of the Watergate defendants,
nor did he know
804
00:40:00,093 --> 00:40:01,834
of any such offer.
805
00:40:01,877 --> 00:40:03,749
- Buzhardt came back
one time and said,
806
00:40:03,792 --> 00:40:05,533
"Okay, now, here's
the rationale."
807
00:40:05,577 --> 00:40:08,057
All these things were
done out of a concern
808
00:40:08,101 --> 00:40:09,929
for national security.
809
00:40:09,972 --> 00:40:14,934
- And I said, "Fred, I've gone
over all these incidents
810
00:40:14,977 --> 00:40:16,457
"that happened,
you know, with regard
811
00:40:16,501 --> 00:40:18,894
"to the money raising
and the rest of it.
812
00:40:18,938 --> 00:40:22,028
"And I can't find a damn
one that was motivated
813
00:40:22,071 --> 00:40:24,422
by national security."
814
00:40:24,465 --> 00:40:28,251
And he looked at me and said,
"You got a better idea?"
815
00:40:28,295 --> 00:40:30,863
- Well, I think the, uh,
President in his statement,
816
00:40:30,906 --> 00:40:34,432
uh, brought in a new shelter
for secrecy and, uh,
817
00:40:34,475 --> 00:40:37,260
trying to say that he was, uh,
doing a lot of these things
818
00:40:37,304 --> 00:40:39,262
in the name of
internal security.
819
00:40:39,306 --> 00:40:40,829
- And you're not satisfied
with the President's statement?
820
00:40:40,873 --> 00:40:42,918
- I am not.
821
00:40:42,962 --> 00:40:44,267
- Then came Jeb Magruder,
who had worked
822
00:40:44,311 --> 00:40:46,095
for John Mitchell at CREEP.
823
00:40:46,139 --> 00:40:48,489
- Did there come a time when
you had a third and final
824
00:40:48,533 --> 00:40:51,579
meeting with Mr. Mitchell
on the Liddy plan on or about
825
00:40:51,623 --> 00:40:53,799
March 30, 1972?
- Yes.
826
00:40:53,842 --> 00:40:56,628
Mr. Mitchell was on vacation
at Key Biscayne.
827
00:40:56,671 --> 00:40:58,760
Uh, I went down
to Key Biscayne.
828
00:40:58,804 --> 00:41:00,675
Uh, Mr. LaRue was there.
829
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:05,811
Um, and we met, um, and went
over approximately 30 to some--
830
00:41:05,854 --> 00:41:09,597
30-some decision papers mainly
relating to, uh, direct mail
831
00:41:09,641 --> 00:41:13,427
and advertising, uh, the other
parts of the campaign.
832
00:41:13,471 --> 00:41:16,517
The last topic we
discussed was the, um,
833
00:41:16,561 --> 00:41:19,128
final, uh, proposal
of Mr. Liddy's
834
00:41:19,172 --> 00:41:21,391
which was for
approximately $250,000.
835
00:41:21,435 --> 00:41:24,046
We discussed it and,
uh, Mr. Mitchell agreed
836
00:41:24,090 --> 00:41:26,571
to, um, approve the project.
837
00:41:26,614 --> 00:41:30,444
- When did you first begin
planning the cover-up?
838
00:41:30,488 --> 00:41:32,577
- Oh, I think there was no
question that the cover-up
839
00:41:32,620 --> 00:41:35,623
began that Saturday when we
realized there was a break-in.
840
00:41:35,667 --> 00:41:37,538
I don't think there was ever
any discussion that there
841
00:41:37,582 --> 00:41:39,148
wouldn't be a cover-up.
842
00:41:39,192 --> 00:41:41,237
- John Mitchell tried
denying everything.
843
00:41:41,281 --> 00:41:43,152
But it didn't work very well.
844
00:41:43,196 --> 00:41:46,155
- Could Mr. Magruder have
been in any way mistaken
845
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:47,461
as to what your position was?
846
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,116
- I would hope not.
847
00:41:51,465 --> 00:41:54,729
- Then how do you
explain, Mr. Mitchell,
848
00:41:54,773 --> 00:41:59,386
Mr. Magruder's sworn testimony
that you, however reluctantly,
849
00:41:59,429 --> 00:42:01,475
approved the quarter
million dollar Liddy plan
850
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:03,216
in Key Biscayne?
851
00:42:03,259 --> 00:42:06,567
- Mr. Dash, I can't explain
anybody's testimony up here,
852
00:42:06,611 --> 00:42:08,613
except my own.
853
00:42:08,656 --> 00:42:11,311
- Why didn't you throw
Mr. Liddy out of your office?
854
00:42:11,354 --> 00:42:13,487
- Well, I think,
Mr. Dash, in hindsight,
855
00:42:13,531 --> 00:42:15,968
I not only should have thrown
him out of the office,
856
00:42:16,011 --> 00:42:18,057
I should have thrown
him out of the window.
857
00:42:21,016 --> 00:42:22,975
- Well, since you
did neither...
858
00:42:26,282 --> 00:42:31,853
Why--Why didn't you at least
recommend that Mr. Liddy
859
00:42:31,897 --> 00:42:35,378
be fired from his responsible
position at the committee
860
00:42:35,422 --> 00:42:38,033
since obviously he
was presenting to you
861
00:42:38,077 --> 00:42:40,122
an irresponsible program?
862
00:42:40,166 --> 00:42:42,603
- Well, I, in hindsight,
probably should have done
863
00:42:42,647 --> 00:42:44,300
that, too.
864
00:42:44,344 --> 00:42:46,564
- But the most important
witness was John Dean.
865
00:42:46,607 --> 00:42:49,044
Over the objections of
the special prosecutor,
866
00:42:49,088 --> 00:42:52,178
the Senate Watergate Committee
gave Dean full immunity
867
00:42:52,221 --> 00:42:54,223
for everything he covered
in his testimony.
868
00:42:54,267 --> 00:42:56,443
But Dean still
faced one problem.
869
00:42:56,486 --> 00:42:59,141
Senator Howard Baker
was a White House mole,
870
00:42:59,185 --> 00:43:00,578
and the White House
wanted Baker
871
00:43:00,621 --> 00:43:02,623
to attack Dean's credibility.
872
00:43:02,667 --> 00:43:06,758
- Howard Baker was working with
the White House at the outset,
873
00:43:06,801 --> 00:43:09,891
reporting to the White House
on what was going on
874
00:43:09,935 --> 00:43:12,154
internally in the committee.
875
00:43:12,198 --> 00:43:15,244
- They knew that Baker
and Fred Thompson
876
00:43:15,288 --> 00:43:17,333
were working with
the White House.
877
00:43:17,377 --> 00:43:20,423
I fairly early gave
him that information.
878
00:43:20,467 --> 00:43:22,512
- How did you know?
879
00:43:22,556 --> 00:43:24,427
- Because I'd prepared the
talking paper for the President
880
00:43:24,471 --> 00:43:26,038
to meet with Howard Baker.
881
00:43:33,828 --> 00:43:36,439
- John Dean, the former
White House Counsel,
882
00:43:36,483 --> 00:43:38,964
has reported today
ready to testify.
883
00:43:39,007 --> 00:43:41,444
- And in just a moment,
John Dean will move
884
00:43:41,488 --> 00:43:43,359
to center stage.
885
00:43:43,403 --> 00:43:45,666
You see him here with his
wife, uh, at his right.
886
00:43:45,710 --> 00:43:48,103
He was fired by the
President on April 30th.
887
00:43:48,147 --> 00:43:50,628
Since then the country has
been battered by a series
888
00:43:50,671 --> 00:43:52,717
of revelations--
some from Dean,
889
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,502
some from his enemies--with
the intent to either establish
890
00:43:55,545 --> 00:43:58,636
or destroy his credibility.
891
00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:00,159
- It is my honest belief...
892
00:44:02,204 --> 00:44:04,990
That while the President
was involved,
893
00:44:05,033 --> 00:44:09,516
that he did not realize
or appreciate at any time
894
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:11,779
the implications
of his involvement.
895
00:44:11,823 --> 00:44:14,390
And I think that when
the facts come out,
896
00:44:14,434 --> 00:44:16,218
I hope the President
is forgiven.
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