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What you're about to watch contains 2 00:00:17,980 --> 00:00:21,020 explicit language, adult themes, violence, and may not be suitable for 3 00:00:21,020 --> 00:00:21,839 under 18. 4 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,440 Viewer discretion is strongly advised. 5 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,320 You can activate parental controls from any device by going to account settings. 6 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,560 This, my friend, is a shoot. 7 00:00:34,220 --> 00:00:35,220 Thank you, sir. 8 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,500 May I have enough? 9 00:00:37,480 --> 00:00:39,120 Kiss my... 10 00:01:30,870 --> 00:01:33,510 Mikey Wiprek worked on the ring crew. 11 00:01:33,770 --> 00:01:38,090 Another member of the ring crew were just bouncing around and doing moon 12 00:01:38,290 --> 00:01:40,430 And Paul said, we should put him in the ring. 13 00:01:41,770 --> 00:01:46,730 This kid doesn't stand a chance, and he knows it. 14 00:01:48,970 --> 00:01:50,110 I was like the beat -up guy. 15 00:01:51,310 --> 00:01:53,250 All knew what you were good at. 16 00:01:53,530 --> 00:01:56,950 My bumping and selling was so realistic. Get these people to sympathize with 17 00:01:56,950 --> 00:02:00,050 you. When normally someone like you, they would crap all over. 18 00:02:01,370 --> 00:02:05,670 Mikey Wiprek was such an underdog and could take such a beating that the fans 19 00:02:05,670 --> 00:02:07,090 gravitated towards him. 20 00:02:07,930 --> 00:02:12,130 Cactus Jack is literally dragging his partner, Mikey Wiprek, towards the ring. 21 00:02:12,650 --> 00:02:16,830 Mikey was just a fantastic character. This high school -looking kid, you know, 22 00:02:16,830 --> 00:02:18,570 who's way out of his depth. 23 00:02:18,790 --> 00:02:22,390 The public enemy is real, real mad. You know what that means? 24 00:02:23,770 --> 00:02:25,270 It means I'm going to die. 25 00:02:25,990 --> 00:02:27,290 He likes it! 26 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,540 Mikey really, really likes it. 27 00:02:31,940 --> 00:02:37,240 Paul just saw something in him, and, you know, Paul built it up on this kid, and 28 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,960 people believed him, and so they should. 29 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:46,200 And I know I can really get hurt, but Sam, man, it's time for 30 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,620 Mikey Whipwreck to get extreme. 31 00:02:51,580 --> 00:02:54,800 I had no visions of being the champion. 32 00:02:55,340 --> 00:02:56,440 I just didn't think it was going to happen. 33 00:02:56,660 --> 00:03:00,660 They never even believed that Sandman was going to leave Mikey in the middle 34 00:03:00,660 --> 00:03:01,960 the ring. That's a quivering mask. 35 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,900 Can you imagine Mikey Wiprek, a world heavyweight champion? 36 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:13,820 The Sandman is looking to put a permanent end to the miracle of Mikey 37 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,620 Reversal! And the tide has turned. 38 00:03:19,060 --> 00:03:21,380 Mikey Wiprek taking it to the extreme. 39 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,100 Mikey continues the onslaught. 40 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,380 He hits the splash. 41 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,180 One, two. 42 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,480 Do you believe in miracles? 43 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,500 We've got a new world heavyweight champion. 44 00:03:36,980 --> 00:03:38,620 It's Mikey Winfrey. 45 00:03:38,940 --> 00:03:44,020 Mikey wins. Mikey wins. Mikey wins the world title. 46 00:03:44,980 --> 00:03:46,560 This is not happening to me. 47 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,840 Come on now. This is crazy. 48 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Bye. 49 00:03:51,820 --> 00:03:52,820 That was just great. 50 00:03:53,780 --> 00:03:58,860 Mikey Whitbreck took his first ever bump in the UCW arena and to watch him go 51 00:03:58,860 --> 00:04:01,740 from the unknown kid who got beat up every week. 52 00:04:02,900 --> 00:04:06,920 When he finally won it, it was, wow, Mikey did it. 53 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,460 And here come the locker room to congratulate the new champion. 54 00:04:11,740 --> 00:04:13,580 Big victory for Mikey. 55 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:15,860 Big moment for UCW. 56 00:04:31,630 --> 00:04:37,250 dies off the balcony, living dangerously, 1998, Asbury Park 57 00:04:37,430 --> 00:04:39,510 It's a room that has two floors. 58 00:04:39,950 --> 00:04:43,710 So New Jack was very well known for his high -flying antics off things. 59 00:04:43,930 --> 00:04:45,630 And I'm not talking about, like, in the ring. 60 00:04:46,050 --> 00:04:49,390 One of those things is, like, where's New Jack going to go with this? Because 61 00:04:49,390 --> 00:04:51,990 you can only go so high, and then it's going to be a disaster. 62 00:04:52,410 --> 00:04:55,590 New Jack can dive. He dove off everything. So how can you make it 63 00:04:55,590 --> 00:04:58,830 pay -per -view? He brings someone else to go along with him. And Mike, toughest 64 00:04:58,830 --> 00:05:00,410 little guy I've ever seen in the business. 65 00:05:01,230 --> 00:05:03,450 put up with more beatings than you can imagine. 66 00:05:07,010 --> 00:05:12,030 And there I am, laying on a table, my brother Devon laying on another table, 67 00:05:12,150 --> 00:05:17,710 while New Jack and Spike are probably 20 feet in the air. You know, you hear 68 00:05:17,710 --> 00:05:21,630 horror stories of accidents and things like that that happen in the ring, and 69 00:05:21,630 --> 00:05:25,230 biggest fear was having one of those accidents come to life. I remember being 70 00:05:25,230 --> 00:05:26,230 scared. 71 00:05:26,830 --> 00:05:28,410 I'd never jumped off anything. 72 00:05:29,230 --> 00:05:32,450 let alone a 27 -foot dive. 73 00:05:41,530 --> 00:05:48,510 We measured, I 74 00:05:48,510 --> 00:05:49,590 think it was 27 feet. 75 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:54,470 I remember just laying there, you know, being held, and then all of a sudden 76 00:05:54,470 --> 00:05:57,990 looking up and realizing how high it really was. 77 00:05:58,570 --> 00:06:02,030 And you hope that it's the kind of thing, you know, that you can walk away 78 00:06:02,210 --> 00:06:03,950 That was the first time I jumped off a balcony. 79 00:06:05,730 --> 00:06:09,730 When we did it, you know, I remember looking at Jack and Jack going, you're 80 00:06:09,730 --> 00:06:12,390 jumping. And I went, no, you're jumping. 81 00:06:13,650 --> 00:06:14,650 You're jumping. 82 00:06:15,130 --> 00:06:16,510 Okay, Jack, I'll jump. 83 00:06:17,170 --> 00:06:18,170 And we did it. 84 00:06:20,050 --> 00:06:23,410 I'm hearing all these fans chanting ECW, ECW. 85 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:32,880 The crowd was rabid. And just this wall and feet of people behind them just 86 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,660 going crazy. And then they jumped out and, I mean, they flattened us. 87 00:06:37,100 --> 00:06:41,500 Right before you jumped off the balcony onto us, I remember I had kids. 88 00:06:43,900 --> 00:06:47,400 Actually, a very underrated moment in ECW. 89 00:06:48,020 --> 00:06:49,080 Shouldn't be 49. 90 00:07:08,539 --> 00:07:12,800 Sometimes accidents and jokes become some of the greatest things to see in 91 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:13,800 business. 92 00:07:14,620 --> 00:07:18,140 The BWO is a parody of the NWO, the Blue World Order. 93 00:07:19,100 --> 00:07:22,860 I'm the man who's using BWO. 94 00:07:24,020 --> 00:07:27,020 Say hello to the BWO! 95 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:35,200 ECW's comedy is one of the things that's downplayed, not intentionally, but you 96 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,200 don't hear enough about how funny that was. 97 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,260 and how funny those moments were. 98 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,900 They're in New York City, in Times Square, in character. 99 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:49,520 Blue hair, you know, Stevie being Stevie, and me being me, and it's a 100 00:07:50,180 --> 00:07:51,400 It's New York City, man. 101 00:07:52,020 --> 00:07:54,400 Let's go check out the street. Oh, the street's cool. Very cool. 102 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,040 Just running around New York City, disrupting Christmas carolers. 103 00:07:59,260 --> 00:08:02,960 A day or two ago, I saw that day. 104 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:04,440 BWO! 105 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,170 BWO! Super kicking Santa Claus. 106 00:08:10,710 --> 00:08:16,290 My wife actually went with Paul Heyman and the BWO into the city. She said she 107 00:08:16,290 --> 00:08:18,630 had never laughed so hard in her life. 108 00:08:19,030 --> 00:08:22,090 That's what you get for not giving me that toy train when I was nine. 109 00:08:23,430 --> 00:08:24,430 BWO! 110 00:08:24,670 --> 00:08:26,130 BWO! Hey, 111 00:08:28,090 --> 00:08:29,090 sorry. 112 00:08:46,060 --> 00:08:47,060 No reason in particular. 113 00:08:47,260 --> 00:08:48,780 A Jenna Jameson moment. 114 00:08:51,220 --> 00:08:52,220 Okay, 115 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,200 back to your regular programming. 116 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,740 You're of a certain age. We love our wrestling and sports and music and 117 00:08:59,740 --> 00:09:00,860 everything. And porn. 118 00:09:01,540 --> 00:09:08,000 WWE is using people like Pamela Anderson and using real 119 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:14,040 mainstream blonde bombshells. So what does ECW do is go out and sign the 120 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,560 hottest... adult film star in the world. All right, here we go. 121 00:09:17,780 --> 00:09:19,560 Be wild and crazy and hardcore. 122 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,820 I'll bet I'll get in trouble. 123 00:09:22,740 --> 00:09:23,780 Not with me, you are. 124 00:09:24,580 --> 00:09:28,340 I remember when I met her, I said, man, I've watched so many of your videos. 125 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:29,680 I said, never mind. 126 00:09:30,220 --> 00:09:31,220 Pleasure to meet you. 127 00:09:32,060 --> 00:09:36,500 And if you think I'm hardcore, well, you ought to watch Hardcore Heaven 97. 128 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,400 Have Jenna Jameson, the number one porn star in the world, as your valet. 129 00:09:41,660 --> 00:09:43,860 And I can't even tell you how it happened. 130 00:09:47,660 --> 00:09:48,660 She looked good. 131 00:09:48,780 --> 00:09:49,960 So, yeah. 132 00:09:51,660 --> 00:09:58,180 It is my pleasure to introduce the lovely Jenna 133 00:09:58,180 --> 00:09:59,780 Jameson. 134 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:03,680 Nice girl. 135 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:09,400 Down to Earth was really down to do whatever we asked her to do. 136 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,480 As a matter of fact, with no experience whatsoever being in the wrestling 137 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,820 business, everything we told her to do, she hit on cue. 138 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:34,240 For one unbelievable night, I was out there with Jenna Jameson. 139 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:37,200 For me, it was a thrill. 140 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:38,860 Just an absolute thrill. 141 00:10:39,820 --> 00:10:43,540 I remember we had just beat PG -13. 142 00:10:45,100 --> 00:10:48,600 And as we're leaving, Bubba goes like this. 143 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,020 And she kissed with him, and I said, well, if that was the case, why didn't I 144 00:10:54,020 --> 00:10:54,919 ask for one? 145 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,120 Hey, thought about it, and I was like, eh, it's okay. 146 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,740 Oh, my God! 147 00:11:17,660 --> 00:11:22,280 We had signed with... a fledgling network, TNN, putting them on the map. 148 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:28,160 They had promised a lot of cross -promotion things, a lot of different 149 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,300 that they didn't deliver. 150 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,200 TNN fought us every step of the way. They did not like the way we did 151 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,020 television. They wanted it to be more polished, like WWE. 152 00:11:38,500 --> 00:11:40,380 They insisted on having two announcers. 153 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:43,860 They wanted us to spend more money despite not giving us any money. 154 00:11:44,180 --> 00:11:47,860 Paul was so mad at TNN, and you know Paul. 155 00:11:48,380 --> 00:11:50,040 Paul is the best promo guy in the business. 156 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,860 You give a guy a microphone, he can go and tell any story. 157 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,580 My name is Paul Heyman, and I'm the executive producer and the owner of 158 00:11:58,580 --> 00:11:59,680 Championship Wrestling. 159 00:12:00,260 --> 00:12:04,700 And since this show apparently is going to make air this week, I'd like to take 160 00:12:04,700 --> 00:12:06,740 this moment to thank you for watching ECW. 161 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,600 You have to be an ECW fan to watch this show, because God knows the network has 162 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,360 never put out one freaking commercial or one press release to let you know that 163 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,760 we're here. But that's their scheme of things. 164 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,300 And he just shredded TNN on their own network. 165 00:12:21,620 --> 00:12:25,480 Now, in an industry where everybody wants to be real, everybody wants to do 166 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,080 shoot, this, my friends, is a shoot. 167 00:12:28,580 --> 00:12:30,420 We hate Distinct and Network. 168 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,360 We hate their guts for abandoning us. We hate their guts for not supporting us. 169 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,600 We hate their guts for not advertising us. And we hate their guts for not 170 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,680 the balls to throw us off the air. 171 00:12:42,460 --> 00:12:43,540 Kind of unprecedented. 172 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,140 I don't know if it's the smartest idea to do. 173 00:12:46,700 --> 00:12:50,860 And just in case you're watching this, hey, network, I dare you to throw me off 174 00:12:50,860 --> 00:12:51,559 the air. 175 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:55,240 Because I'm going to break every rule that you put in front of me until you 176 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,580 throw me the hell off the air. 177 00:12:57,820 --> 00:13:00,040 The network had promised money. 178 00:13:00,700 --> 00:13:04,840 They didn't deliver. And then shockingly, they looked under their 179 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:10,280 found like $110 million to give to Monday Night Raw. And then little ECW 180 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:11,620 pretty much dead. 181 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,000 You better take that $100 million that you're going to give Vince McMahon. 182 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,400 And you better spend it on attorneys. 183 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:25,860 Because I promise you, network, the war has just begun. 184 00:13:26,220 --> 00:13:33,200 It was a real war between Paul and TNN. Are you ready to throw us off 185 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,480 the air yet, pig? 186 00:13:53,930 --> 00:13:55,990 After tonight, it's no more. 187 00:13:58,630 --> 00:14:05,530 I remember my last match vividly. ECW fans knew what was going on, not only 188 00:14:05,530 --> 00:14:09,350 through newsletters, which was becoming archaic because of the internet, and 189 00:14:09,350 --> 00:14:12,610 they knew that it was Mick Foley, Cactus Jack's last match. 190 00:14:12,990 --> 00:14:17,370 When I walked out, it was unlike any reaction I've ever received. 191 00:14:17,730 --> 00:14:19,590 Making his last appearance. 192 00:14:36,750 --> 00:14:38,770 900 people chanting Cactus Jack. 193 00:14:39,370 --> 00:14:40,750 Cactus! Cactus! 194 00:14:41,110 --> 00:14:42,530 Cactus! Cactus! 195 00:14:42,770 --> 00:14:46,590 Cactus! Cactus! Mikey and I had a very good match. 196 00:14:46,850 --> 00:14:51,110 I think at one point I clutched the Leonard Cohen album that a fan had given 197 00:14:51,110 --> 00:14:52,930 as a foreign object. 198 00:14:53,330 --> 00:14:55,890 Act is still clutching that Leonard Cohen album. 199 00:14:59,410 --> 00:15:00,410 He does! 200 00:15:05,030 --> 00:15:09,290 Nick. Not taking himself too seriously and having a sense of humor. 201 00:15:09,790 --> 00:15:14,790 Wanted to thank two visionaries who gave him the opportunity to be who he was. 202 00:15:14,870 --> 00:15:18,250 Of course, everyone thought he was talking about Paul Heyman and Todd 203 00:15:18,430 --> 00:15:21,390 One of them, he's a creative genius. 204 00:15:23,350 --> 00:15:28,150 The other guy's a visionary who saw what he wanted to accomplish and went about 205 00:15:28,150 --> 00:15:29,550 conforming ECW. 206 00:15:29,950 --> 00:15:31,750 And I'd like to bring them out right now. 207 00:15:32,010 --> 00:15:33,810 Two people that make this whole thing work. 208 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:35,820 The Blue Meanie and Stevie Richards. 209 00:15:36,180 --> 00:15:40,100 The Heartbreak Kids, Stevie Richards and the Blue Meanie. 210 00:15:41,180 --> 00:15:45,120 And of course, he brings out Stevie Richards and the Blue Meanie and does 211 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,120 fabulous Fargo strut with them. And it was just a great way for Cactus Jack to 212 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,160 go out. I'd like to strut out of the ECW arena. 213 00:15:53,980 --> 00:15:58,180 It was a wonderful way to go out. You know, my strut left a little bit to be 214 00:15:58,180 --> 00:16:03,000 desired. No question in my mind that it was the finest exit. 215 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:04,560 I love that. 216 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:12,780 Hunter 217 00:16:12,780 --> 00:16:21,700 Q. 218 00:16:21,780 --> 00:16:27,680 Robbins III introduced the most brutal, the most vicious, the most animalistic 219 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,140 superstar ever to enter the National Wrestling Alliance. I'm talking of none 220 00:16:32,140 --> 00:16:33,510 other. than Sabu. 221 00:16:34,190 --> 00:16:37,690 What we were not told was that earlier in the week, Hunter Q. Robbins had also 222 00:16:37,690 --> 00:16:43,970 promised a job to the Tasmaniac. When I debuted in October of 1993 in ECW, I 223 00:16:43,970 --> 00:16:49,130 debuted against Sabu. That moment there where, you know, you have Sabu and I for 224 00:16:49,130 --> 00:16:50,310 the first time. 225 00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:54,670 And the match wasn't about me. The match was about Sabu. And I was told that by 226 00:16:54,670 --> 00:16:58,150 Paul Heyman. I think Sabu's going to be a big success in ECW. 227 00:16:58,530 --> 00:17:00,570 And I'd like you to help him on his debut. 228 00:17:01,690 --> 00:17:08,670 Sabu. came in no one had ever seen the scarred up crazy type of madman and 229 00:17:08,670 --> 00:17:15,589 he had that stigma of being crazy from his uncle the original chief it was 230 00:17:15,589 --> 00:17:20,930 sabu and taz sabu is just insane this man is crazy oh 231 00:17:20,930 --> 00:17:23,270 he's not a man 232 00:17:29,930 --> 00:17:32,290 Oh, God, Sabu hated that Hannibal Lecter mask. 233 00:17:32,790 --> 00:17:37,110 In fact, Paul must have known that Sabu was going to hate it because he handed 234 00:17:37,110 --> 00:17:40,150 me the mask and told me to go give it to Sabu. 235 00:17:40,430 --> 00:17:42,690 And I didn't know Sabu from a hole in the wall. 236 00:17:42,910 --> 00:17:46,090 So I walk over. I'm just a young kid, and I'm not going to say no to Paul 237 00:17:46,090 --> 00:17:48,650 because I'm happy to have my job, and I'm a kid, and I don't know any better, 238 00:17:48,730 --> 00:17:50,050 and he's, you know, polyangerously. 239 00:17:50,390 --> 00:17:52,890 And I said, here, and Sabu goes, what's that for? 240 00:17:53,250 --> 00:17:55,890 I go, Paul wants you to wear it for your entrance. 241 00:17:56,450 --> 00:17:57,910 I'm not wearing that thing. 242 00:17:58,540 --> 00:18:04,120 And I guess eventually Paul talked Sabu into being more dangerous and adding a 243 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:08,360 gimmick to his character. Sabu didn't want a gimmick. It made for a great 244 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:09,360 on TV. 245 00:18:40,910 --> 00:18:43,510 We were scumbags. We were the worst of the worst. 246 00:18:43,790 --> 00:18:48,810 The night Dudley's broke Beulah's neck was intense beyond intense because the 247 00:18:48,810 --> 00:18:50,750 crowd wanted to kill us. 248 00:18:51,970 --> 00:18:57,690 All of a sudden, here comes Beulah, you know, pleading for Tommy. And I remember 249 00:18:57,690 --> 00:19:03,790 just reaching down and grabbing her by her hair and ready to knock her out, so 250 00:19:03,790 --> 00:19:04,529 to speak. 251 00:19:04,530 --> 00:19:08,790 And just as he was about to do it, I said, no, Nevon, not what you do to a 252 00:19:08,790 --> 00:19:10,070 woman. Don't hit a woman. 253 00:19:10,730 --> 00:19:11,730 Break her neck. 254 00:19:26,170 --> 00:19:31,770 When Beulah was leaving ECW and the Dudleys broke her neck, I was scared. 255 00:19:32,030 --> 00:19:35,010 It was probably going to be one of the biggest riots we had ever had. 256 00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:38,170 After Bubba and D -Von hit her with 3 -D. 257 00:19:38,670 --> 00:19:42,310 There was a collective gasp in the crowd, and then there was just hatred. 258 00:19:45,470 --> 00:19:52,010 It was scary because, you know, 259 00:19:52,070 --> 00:19:56,770 Paulie would always tell us, especially after we broke Bula's neck, like, watch 260 00:19:56,770 --> 00:19:57,910 yourself when you leave the building. 261 00:19:58,550 --> 00:20:00,490 Watch yourself when you're walking through the crowd. 262 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,080 Watch yourself at the airport. 263 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,420 Like, you don't know what's going to happen because these fans really do hate 264 00:20:06,420 --> 00:20:09,580 you. And that night, they hated the Dudleys even more than I'd ever seen. 265 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:10,960 Eula was loved. 266 00:20:13,620 --> 00:20:20,480 We did things that no other act that I can remember has ever attempted 267 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:26,880 to do. Eula McGillicuddy's blood is on your hands, Trevor. 268 00:20:32,170 --> 00:20:36,010 That was just what we did. We were able to get under people's skin. What better 269 00:20:36,010 --> 00:20:41,650 way to get underneath Tommy's skin but to break his girlfriend's neck? 270 00:20:42,150 --> 00:20:46,690 And that was the last time you saw Buell McGillicuddy in a wrestling ring until 271 00:20:46,690 --> 00:20:48,130 one night there in 2005. 272 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,280 Mexican professional wrestling. 273 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,260 And if you are not familiar with it, you are in for a special treat tonight. 274 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:19,080 I remember having my eyes glued to the monitor. I knew what Ray and Psychosis 275 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:19,739 could do. 276 00:21:19,740 --> 00:21:23,720 I didn't know how it would play out in front of the hardcore fans. 277 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:29,420 Lucha had not been accepted in America. Companies like WCW and WWE thought that 278 00:21:29,420 --> 00:21:34,600 nobody would take athletes that small seriously despite the unbelievable 279 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,600 they could do. 280 00:21:48,650 --> 00:21:53,890 that our fan base accepted exemplary flying wrestlers and technical 281 00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:59,050 What we didn't know is that Rey and Psychosis were going to add hardcore 282 00:22:12,060 --> 00:22:17,340 The coach has come into ECW and combined Lucha Libre with the extreme style of 283 00:22:17,340 --> 00:22:22,100 being able to use tables and chairs was like something nobody had ever seen 284 00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:25,460 anything like that before in wrestling or otherwise. 285 00:22:26,020 --> 00:22:30,700 These two have pulled out all the stuff here in the ECW arena. 286 00:22:31,820 --> 00:22:34,180 Slingshot, moonsault, plancha! 287 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,560 I believe it's the first time I yelled, oh my God, it's Bennett. 288 00:22:43,530 --> 00:22:48,490 They showed their creativity and their willingness to perform above and beyond 289 00:22:48,490 --> 00:22:55,030 to please a very difficult crowd base and instantly endeared themselves to an 290 00:22:55,030 --> 00:22:59,190 audience that may not have been familiar with them beforehand. If you didn't 291 00:22:59,190 --> 00:23:04,190 know who Rey Mysterio or Psychosis was before that match, you certainly did 292 00:23:04,190 --> 00:23:05,190 it was over. 293 00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:26,300 something to say. You see, what you people don't know about is there's a 294 00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:28,560 conspiracy going on in this company. 295 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,060 The idea was that Taz was frustrated that he wasn't getting any world 296 00:23:33,060 --> 00:23:34,540 heavyweight title matches. 297 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:41,800 Nobody wants to admit that I am the world heavyweight champion. 298 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,140 So he created his own title. 299 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,980 You see, I'm not the young crowd champion because 300 00:23:56,749 --> 00:23:57,749 heavyweight champion. 301 00:23:57,870 --> 00:24:02,810 And this is the proof. You can call it the Brooklyn World Belt. You can call it 302 00:24:02,810 --> 00:24:05,110 the World Belt. 303 00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:07,150 You can call it anything you want. 304 00:24:08,350 --> 00:24:13,950 That FTW title to me was the coolest thing because it fit the past character. 305 00:24:14,450 --> 00:24:17,130 You don't want me to be the champ. You don't want me to get an opportunity. 306 00:24:17,370 --> 00:24:18,370 You don't want me to be the guy. 307 00:24:19,030 --> 00:24:20,290 Screw you. I'll do it myself. 308 00:24:20,570 --> 00:24:21,570 And it was never recognized. 309 00:24:22,380 --> 00:24:23,380 by ECW. 310 00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:25,500 Yeah, nice looking, but legitimate? No. 311 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,160 It wasn't a legitimate title, but in Taz's mind, it was a legitimate World 312 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,460 Heavyweight Championship because he couldn't get a match with Shane Douglas 313 00:24:33,460 --> 00:24:34,760 the World Heavyweight Championship. 314 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,620 You might not recognize this belt, I don't recognize you as a champion. 315 00:24:40,860 --> 00:24:46,580 You might not recognize this belt, I don't recognize you as a commentator. 316 00:24:46,580 --> 00:24:50,500 basically said, too bad, I made this, I'm wearing it on TV, and I'm going to 317 00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:51,500 continue to wear it. 318 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,740 until you give me a World Heavyweight title match. I light up when I talk 319 00:24:55,740 --> 00:24:58,920 it because it exemplified everything that the character Taz was. 320 00:24:59,660 --> 00:25:03,700 I don't need you and your little ridiculous belt. I got my own. 321 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,840 See, I don't give a damn who recognizes this. 322 00:25:07,820 --> 00:25:10,120 FPW, I am the... 323 00:25:34,540 --> 00:25:35,540 in terms of violence. 324 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,000 Who's Axl Rotten? 325 00:25:37,580 --> 00:25:42,160 Axl Rotten is the man that for the last six months has been too violent to be 326 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,620 shown on ECW television. 327 00:25:43,940 --> 00:25:48,620 For real? Mac Daddy's a violent? That's Axl Rotten. That's Ian Rotten. And we're 328 00:25:48,620 --> 00:25:49,539 the bad breed. 329 00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:51,220 They'd been a very good tag team. 330 00:25:52,140 --> 00:25:55,480 Been together on several tours of Japan with them. I knew what they could do. 331 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,200 These two brothers within the bad breed that are split up. 332 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,260 Formerly known as the bad breed. 333 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,300 Axl Rotten versus Ian Rotten. 334 00:26:02,580 --> 00:26:03,580 They're brothers. 335 00:26:04,940 --> 00:26:05,940 Axel and Ian Rotten. 336 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:13,280 Just the idea that these two kids were going to get the chance to work way up 337 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,980 the card, that they were going to do something, that was really meaningful. 338 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,180 There was a sense that we're not just putting you guys in a feud. We're going 339 00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:23,280 do something nobody's ever seen before. 340 00:26:23,620 --> 00:26:29,420 Axel and Ian Rotten set to do battle in the first ever Taipei Deathmatch. 341 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,580 The taping of your hand and putting glass. 342 00:26:33,420 --> 00:26:35,820 and actually going in there and fighting. 343 00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:41,400 Here comes Ian Rotten, two fists with broken glass glued to his knuckles. 344 00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:46,940 What people don't know about the Taipei death match is that they used real 345 00:26:46,940 --> 00:26:51,740 glass. Axel's showing that glass to all the fans at ringside. It's real glass, 346 00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:52,659 all right. 347 00:26:52,660 --> 00:26:57,300 These two lunatics taped up their fists, covered their fists with glue, and then 348 00:26:57,300 --> 00:27:01,540 dipped their fists in the bucket full of real glass and proceeded to massacre 349 00:27:01,540 --> 00:27:02,540 one another. 350 00:27:06,510 --> 00:27:11,730 Axel and Ian went out there and literally tore their skins to shred. 351 00:27:12,110 --> 00:27:18,350 They were really trying to help ECW to be extreme when nobody understood that. 352 00:27:18,410 --> 00:27:19,770 Nobody had ever seen that. 353 00:27:20,610 --> 00:27:22,930 To be honest, this is upsetting to watch. 354 00:27:23,290 --> 00:27:27,550 This is not the wrestling that you used to watch with your grandfather or your 355 00:27:27,550 --> 00:27:28,610 grandmother back in the day. 356 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,680 The bloodiest, most violent feud in the history of extreme championship 357 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:38,020 wrestling. Want to talk about an oh my God moment? That was a real oh my God 358 00:27:38,020 --> 00:27:40,480 moment. There was nothing showbiz about that match. 359 00:27:42,780 --> 00:27:44,800 Was it barbaric? Yeah, yeah. 360 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,140 Did it need to be? 361 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,220 Yeah, yeah, it did. 362 00:27:49,140 --> 00:27:52,440 From that point on, from that match, that was when people started really 363 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,460 noticing, okay, I think we have something here. 364 00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:32,940 I was hoping you'd bring up 9 -1 -1 because that was the most awesome 365 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:39,780 You're about to learn what happens when you die on 9 -1 366 00:28:39,780 --> 00:28:40,780 -1! 367 00:28:49,260 --> 00:28:56,260 I just remember 9 -1 -1, chokeslamming anything that 368 00:28:56,260 --> 00:28:57,260 moved. 369 00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:06,720 Philly can be merciless. 370 00:29:06,940 --> 00:29:09,080 They loved 9 -1 -1. 371 00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:12,840 These fans want to see it. He's got them all. 372 00:29:13,260 --> 00:29:14,260 He's done it. 373 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,160 That's the way Philadelphians are. 374 00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:18,060 Santa Claus comes out. 375 00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:22,380 We're going to boo Santa Claus, or better yet, 9 -1 -1 him. 376 00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:27,720 I'll be home for Christmas, but jolly old St. Nick is going to spend this 377 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,900 holiday in the emergency room. 378 00:29:31,020 --> 00:29:35,990 Up and down goes Santa Claus. 9 -1 -1. Just chokeslam Santa. 379 00:29:37,410 --> 00:29:42,510 If we had any type of special guest, he was getting chokeslammed. We would like 380 00:29:42,510 --> 00:29:49,070 you all to stand and face the flag for an extreme version of our national 381 00:29:49,070 --> 00:29:52,790 anthem. They had a guy doing the national anthem before the show. 382 00:29:53,610 --> 00:29:55,610 So the guy misses a quarter to. 383 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,240 It didn't matter that the guy who came out and did the national anthem was 384 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,400 a spot -on version. 385 00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:23,400 He was going to get choked soon. 386 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,360 Fans, myself, all of us, were living vicariously through 9 -1 -1. 387 00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:45,340 I was traveling with Nunzio. 388 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,100 I think I flew in the day off. He picked me up at the airport, and Nunzio's a 389 00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:54,000 great guy. He's like, I got to stop by the office, pick up some tape, take him 390 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,000 to the show, right? 391 00:30:55,340 --> 00:30:58,840 And so anyways, we stopped there, and Dreamer comes out. He goes, big night 392 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,280 you. He goes, yeah, you're going to get the title, isn't that? I'm like, I 393 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,920 thought Karina was working with Sandman. He's like, yeah, yeah, we got 394 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,940 something. I'm like, oh, okay, cool. 395 00:31:08,380 --> 00:31:09,380 Sandman's all alone. 396 00:31:10,460 --> 00:31:11,840 He's done it. He's done it. 397 00:31:13,260 --> 00:31:14,159 Come on. 398 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,480 Popular athlete in the history of ECW. 399 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,220 The Sandman! The new World Heavyweight Champion! 400 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,200 Turn around! 401 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,500 And Rhino just thwarted the Sandman! 402 00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:34,580 When you have a three -way and then someone comes out and just kind of takes 403 00:31:34,780 --> 00:31:36,200 Rhino is giving that Sandman a... 404 00:31:45,260 --> 00:31:47,360 was so believable at that time. 405 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,140 It just worked. It just clicked. 406 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:54,620 One, it's a great way of this is the end for people to remember it. Two, it 407 00:31:54,620 --> 00:31:56,900 makes Rhino a massive heel. 408 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,840 He was hated for this. 409 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,620 Another pile of fire on the shores of that table! The sand made it slip! 410 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,380 We needed a show of strength. 411 00:32:14,250 --> 00:32:18,010 and consistency and building for the future. 412 00:32:19,090 --> 00:32:20,490 And Rhino was that. 413 00:32:21,890 --> 00:32:27,590 That's part of my legacy to be the last ever ECW champion and the only one to 414 00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:29,110 unify both titles. 415 00:32:46,030 --> 00:32:51,290 I think that Raven and Tommy Dreamer is one of the best long -term storylines 416 00:32:51,290 --> 00:32:55,290 probably in the modern era. They had such great chemistry in the ring. 417 00:32:55,490 --> 00:33:00,030 Two guys like that who brought the violence and brought the intensity. 418 00:33:01,970 --> 00:33:06,150 And because they were so different in real life, we created such a great 419 00:33:06,150 --> 00:33:09,750 backstory with them being foes going all the way back to summer camp. 420 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,660 We were different. I was the good kid. He was the bad kid. 421 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,880 And he came back to get his revenge on me. 422 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:24,200 Tommy Dreamer and Raven have a lot of unsettled issues between them dating 423 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,720 to their childhood and summer camp. 424 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,440 It really is one of the thinner pieces, I think, in ECW's history is Tommy and 425 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,880 Raven. The longest running feud in professional wrestling. 426 00:33:34,860 --> 00:33:36,000 ECW, the next level. 427 00:33:36,460 --> 00:33:41,720 It was all the Dreamer -Raven feud. And it was probably one of the best feuds in 428 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,860 ECW for the simple fact of for three years, I never beat him. 429 00:33:48,180 --> 00:33:52,000 Tommy Dreamer never wanted to win. Tommy Dreamer knew that he was more 430 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,040 sympathetic if he came closer and closer and closer and closer and lost. 431 00:33:56,540 --> 00:33:59,080 But Raven was leaving for WCW. 432 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:04,580 And Tommy didn't want to win the match, frankly. Me and Tommy were both totally 433 00:34:04,580 --> 00:34:05,580 opposed to the idea. 434 00:34:06,010 --> 00:34:09,469 He wanted to be the ultimate loser and get sympathy, and Paul just said no. 435 00:34:09,570 --> 00:34:15,270 Paul, being the mind that he was, saying, look, he's leaving. You have to 436 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:16,270 him. 437 00:34:17,330 --> 00:34:22,969 The final battle between Raven and Tommy Dreamer. 438 00:34:25,969 --> 00:34:32,830 The winner of tonight's matchup is the winner of this lifelong feud. 439 00:34:33,010 --> 00:34:34,010 Period. 440 00:34:54,250 --> 00:34:57,750 The place went nuts when Tommy finally vanquished Raven, which was funny 441 00:34:57,750 --> 00:35:01,030 all the fans knew Raven was leaving. It was no surprise to anybody, so I think 442 00:35:01,030 --> 00:35:02,030 the outcome was expected. 443 00:35:02,290 --> 00:35:07,090 But the fans loved Tommy so much that they exploded when he pinned Raven. 444 00:35:09,550 --> 00:35:12,750 Legendary, epic chapter ended that night. 445 00:35:27,050 --> 00:35:30,970 When I first came to ECW, I was a Tasmaniac. 446 00:35:34,970 --> 00:35:41,770 Back then, early 90s, gimmicks were 447 00:35:41,770 --> 00:35:42,769 in. 448 00:35:42,770 --> 00:35:43,950 He's a Tasmanian? No. 449 00:35:44,330 --> 00:35:49,230 It was a limited but very effective gimmick. It got over me because when the 450 00:35:49,230 --> 00:35:53,150 bell rang, as goofy and crazy and wacky as the gimmick looked, the face paint 451 00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:56,310 and the fur and the crazy hair, barefoot, all the stuff. 452 00:35:57,770 --> 00:36:03,250 I was always hell -bent on being credible and being an athlete and being 453 00:36:03,250 --> 00:36:08,310 physical. The Tasmaniac has hit the ring and beating up everyone in sight. 454 00:36:08,670 --> 00:36:12,870 He did have a second -degree black belt. He had done some amateur wrestling. 455 00:36:13,270 --> 00:36:16,630 Taz was and is a trash -talking guy. 456 00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:23,210 He was nothing like the Tasmaniac. Paul wanted to get him out of that. 457 00:36:23,870 --> 00:36:26,230 Taz gets his first chance at talking. 458 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:32,940 And said, you can do anything you want. I've told you that before. 459 00:36:36,220 --> 00:36:37,300 It's real clear. 460 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,260 Paul felt like you got to get to another level. I was a photographer at ringside 461 00:36:42,260 --> 00:36:47,760 and Taz called me before the show and said, are you shooting tonight? And I 462 00:36:47,780 --> 00:36:49,880 And he said, can you please take pictures of me? 463 00:36:50,180 --> 00:36:54,120 And Taz came out with the new haircut, the new tights, orange and black. 464 00:36:55,720 --> 00:37:00,120 It became the Taz that we all know. The man who just commentated on this match 465 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:06,480 with me holds a second dan in the discipline of judo and has won shoot 466 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,880 tournaments in the country of Japan. 467 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:14,220 He obviously brings to the broadcast position the credentials to call a match 468 00:37:14,220 --> 00:37:17,340 between Eddie Guerrero and the shooter Dean Malenko. 469 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,000 The man who called this match with me is named Peter Sinurcha. 470 00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:24,440 But you know him very well. 471 00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:28,010 But you know him as Taz. 472 00:37:30,330 --> 00:37:32,210 It wasn't a complete departure. 473 00:37:33,150 --> 00:37:35,730 It was like, he's kind of the same guy. 474 00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:38,390 Here comes the all -new Taz! 475 00:37:39,070 --> 00:37:41,910 But not really. I don't think this is going to work. 476 00:37:42,890 --> 00:37:43,890 And it did. 477 00:37:44,350 --> 00:37:51,310 I thought it was a great step up. And I saw what he did 478 00:37:51,310 --> 00:37:54,690 with it with the chewed up towel over his head. And he was an angry person 479 00:37:54,690 --> 00:37:57,430 anyway. So it just tapped into who he really was. 480 00:37:58,410 --> 00:38:02,610 It was awesome. That's kind of how I saw what I could be. 481 00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:08,630 That's really where the real Taz was born. 482 00:38:10,590 --> 00:38:12,850 Beat me if you can. 483 00:38:14,010 --> 00:38:16,570 Survive. If I let you. 484 00:38:20,350 --> 00:38:21,870 Oh, my God! 485 00:38:28,450 --> 00:38:31,730 The Indemnator! 486 00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:34,770 Samba was behind Bigelow to trip them up! 487 00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:37,570 We have a new world television! 488 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:05,820 Bob Van Dam held the EW World Television title for almost two years, I believe. 489 00:39:06,220 --> 00:39:09,080 It was cool to see a long run like that because you don't see it much anymore. 490 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:10,300 In fact, you really don't see him at all. 491 00:39:10,620 --> 00:39:13,860 The longest reigning champion in professional wrestling. 492 00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:20,620 My thought every show was to make it mean at least as much as the heavyweight 493 00:39:20,620 --> 00:39:24,900 championship, if not more than, because I was the whole effing show. 494 00:39:26,830 --> 00:39:29,610 Everybody already knows who I am. That's why they tuned in. 495 00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:35,790 I'm Rob Van Dam, the world television champion. The whole happens show. 496 00:39:37,870 --> 00:39:42,290 Rob was the guy to beat, and nobody could beat him. And he faced everybody. 497 00:39:42,770 --> 00:39:48,610 22 months and counting, Rob Van Dam, still the ECW 498 00:39:48,610 --> 00:39:51,450 world television champion. 499 00:39:51,950 --> 00:39:52,950 They will give it all. 500 00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:57,730 Every night, whether I'm wrestling someone like Spike Dudley or Lil Guido, 501 00:39:57,730 --> 00:39:59,910 Bam Bigelow, anything in between. 502 00:40:00,150 --> 00:40:02,530 Matches were filled with, oh my God, Mark. 503 00:40:03,070 --> 00:40:06,570 What will it take to beat Rob Van Dam? 504 00:40:10,850 --> 00:40:16,070 Actually, the reason why Rob vacated the title is he broke his foot during our 505 00:40:16,070 --> 00:40:19,130 match. The injury frustrated me. 506 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,680 On a few different levels because I thought that I was indestructible until 507 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,680 that, and I was out to prove that every night. 508 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:33,320 Good luck finding somebody to fill the shoes of the standard I've set is the 509 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,720 World Television Champion. 510 00:40:38,580 --> 00:40:43,080 Had it not been for the broken leg he suffered against Rhino, nobody would 511 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,400 taken that title from him. 512 00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:47,460 Who even remembers who had it after RVD? 513 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:17,480 The triple threat consisted of Shane Douglas, who was the leader, Chris 514 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,700 who was the workhorse, and Bam Bam Bigelow, who was the muscle. 515 00:41:23,060 --> 00:41:28,800 And my triple threat rules the cream here in Extreme Championship Wrestling. 516 00:41:30,980 --> 00:41:34,240 The idea was that Shane Douglas wasn't pushing himself. 517 00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:38,300 And Rick Rude was going to find challenges to make Shane Douglas better. 518 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,240 Who did he come up with? 519 00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:45,490 Al Snow, who in Queens, New York, gave Shane Douglas a tough fight. But Douglas 520 00:41:45,490 --> 00:41:46,490 beat Al Snow. 521 00:41:46,970 --> 00:41:53,010 In Boston, Massachusetts, Rick Rude brought out Axel Weiss, and he took the 522 00:41:53,010 --> 00:41:54,490 franchise to the hardcore limits. 523 00:41:54,810 --> 00:41:59,770 But in the end, Shane Douglas is still the ECW World Heavyweight Champion. 524 00:42:00,510 --> 00:42:07,210 The question is now, who will Rick Rude find to challenge Shane Douglas 525 00:42:07,210 --> 00:42:09,550 for the ECW? 526 00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:30,580 Rick Rude, who had originally come into ECW to be a thorn in the side of Shane 527 00:42:30,580 --> 00:42:31,580 Douglas. 528 00:42:41,580 --> 00:42:44,300 It was revealed that this was all part of his master plan. 529 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,400 And he needs no introduction. 530 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,280 Hit the music. 531 00:42:58,180 --> 00:43:03,320 Rick Rude has dropped another bombshell on the franchise and the Triple Threat. 532 00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:09,520 Rick Rude convinced Bam Bam Bigelow that he should be World Heavyweight 533 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,760 Champion. and he should be the one to challenge Shane Douglas. 534 00:43:13,980 --> 00:43:16,560 Would you look at the face on Bigelow Douglas! 535 00:43:16,940 --> 00:43:18,380 Drop a finger to the eye! 536 00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:19,940 Put the stop to that! 537 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,160 Bam Bam being such a big deal coming from WWE, when Bam Bam came in and took 538 00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,600 title from him, it was a really big deal. 539 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,840 Bam Bam was a real special man to me, and it was great to see him win the 540 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:04,840 Heavyweight Championship. 541 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,760 dreamer was willing to do anything to be hardcore tommy suplex to the street 542 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:38,360 we've got a massacre on swanson street i was crazy and 543 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:44,980 he 544 00:44:44,980 --> 00:44:51,980 chokeslamming and i just disappear from 545 00:44:51,980 --> 00:44:52,980 the scene 546 00:45:02,860 --> 00:45:09,540 I wish we had more cameras to show how punishing, how awful, how devastating 547 00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:15,980 that choke slam was, just as a testament to what Tommy Dreamer would do for ECW. 548 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:21,240 My ass has an ability to absorb punishment, and I would always tell all 549 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:27,060 muscle -jacked -up guys, always remember, muscles tear and rip, but fat 550 00:45:27,340 --> 00:45:30,720 and that's why Tommy Dreamer's still here, and I've never had a surgery, 25 551 00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:31,658 -year career. 552 00:45:31,660 --> 00:45:32,660 Still going strong. 553 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,460 Oh, my God. Get an ambulance. 554 00:45:37,540 --> 00:45:38,540 Oh, 555 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,480 my God. 556 00:45:49,260 --> 00:45:52,520 The extreme icon, the Sandman. 557 00:45:54,580 --> 00:45:56,500 Sandman always got an amazing entry. 558 00:45:57,060 --> 00:46:00,280 He used to joke that that's all the shine, as we call it. 559 00:46:00,730 --> 00:46:01,770 He needed it. It was his entrance. 560 00:46:02,510 --> 00:46:05,910 The music, the lights, you know, the thing you do with a beer. 561 00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:07,790 Smoking cigarettes. 562 00:46:08,030 --> 00:46:12,070 The first wrestler to come down to the ring, drinking a beer and smoking a 563 00:46:12,070 --> 00:46:14,450 cigarette. And drinking a beer. 564 00:46:15,170 --> 00:46:16,610 Sandman chugging another one. 565 00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:19,970 What are you, crazy? You can't send a guy drinking and smoking to the ring. 566 00:46:20,210 --> 00:46:21,690 Well, apparently you can. 567 00:46:21,970 --> 00:46:24,490 He's a no rules, no holds barred kind of guy. 568 00:46:25,090 --> 00:46:28,570 The Sandman was ECW. ECW was the Sandman. 569 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,160 Sandman never should have left ECW for WCW. 570 00:46:36,380 --> 00:46:38,340 When he left, it was kind of a blow. 571 00:46:38,940 --> 00:46:41,540 That was just a money dispute between he and Paul. 572 00:46:41,780 --> 00:46:44,420 We understood it. Okay, you're going to go and you're going to make a payday. 573 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:49,920 I don't know how much Sandman made as hardcore hack over in WCW. 574 00:46:50,540 --> 00:46:52,980 Hopefully it was a lot of money, but it did nothing for his career. 575 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,400 It didn't work. 576 00:46:54,620 --> 00:46:58,620 He came back. When he came back, he was instantly welcomed by the fans. 577 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,920 I was in the ring when Sandman made his return. 578 00:47:01,630 --> 00:47:02,630 They did the lights out. 579 00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:07,170 And it was crazy. 580 00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:24,750 The place just went nuts. 581 00:47:26,190 --> 00:47:28,990 The fans just, they went mental. 582 00:47:32,650 --> 00:47:36,830 You're looking at him going, man, this guy is so over. I was in the middle of 583 00:47:36,830 --> 00:47:39,370 the ring and I experienced the energy from the crowd. 584 00:47:40,030 --> 00:47:43,470 It was so loud you couldn't hear the guy standing beside you yelling in your 585 00:47:43,470 --> 00:47:44,470 ear. 586 00:47:44,990 --> 00:47:48,530 Perhaps the greatest entrance in the history of our business. 587 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:15,880 Bula baby over here has been a little neglected by my man Raven. 588 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:23,500 So, studly Stevie Richards, the king of swing, is going to get a kiss from Bula 589 00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:24,500 baby. Come here. 590 00:48:24,540 --> 00:48:25,700 No, no, no. 591 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:32,360 I was kind of like rolling my eyes like, oh my God, what is going on? 592 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:49,000 I'm pregnant was huge. It was like, and then hush. Because they got to hear how 593 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,000 this is going to unfold. 594 00:48:50,980 --> 00:48:51,980 You're what? 595 00:48:53,940 --> 00:48:54,980 You're pregnant? 596 00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:00,380 Can you think of a better storyline than the abusive boyfriend yelling at his 597 00:49:00,380 --> 00:49:05,380 girlfriend for not being intelligent enough to know how to take birth 598 00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:08,980 The pills say one day at a time, moron. 599 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,860 Oh, my God. 600 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,360 that it wasn't easy, and then people started chanting, it's the meanies! 601 00:49:34,060 --> 00:49:35,060 It's Tommy. 602 00:49:36,580 --> 00:49:37,660 It's Tommy! 603 00:49:38,940 --> 00:49:41,280 People were like, they never saw it coming. 604 00:49:41,580 --> 00:49:44,940 And then he grabbed her, and I came and I defended her. 605 00:49:46,740 --> 00:49:48,460 The place comes unglued. 606 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:55,380 I looked at her, and we hugged, and people were just like, oh my God, it 607 00:49:55,630 --> 00:49:56,348 It's magic. 608 00:49:56,350 --> 00:50:02,210 So I was really like, oh, man, what is this? But I have to admit, I couldn't 609 00:50:02,210 --> 00:50:04,670 deny how connected the fans were. 610 00:50:04,910 --> 00:50:07,770 It was just such great soap opera television. 611 00:50:08,090 --> 00:50:10,130 It was just such an unbelievable moment. 612 00:50:24,330 --> 00:50:28,390 So Cactus Jack's the most hardcore wrestler in the most hardcore company in 613 00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:29,490 world, probably, at the time. 614 00:50:30,790 --> 00:50:35,890 For years, Mick had been ripping his body apart and sacrificing himself. 615 00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:42,590 When you give fans that much violence week after week after week, they become 616 00:50:42,590 --> 00:50:45,170 spoiled, and the HW fans have become spoiled. 617 00:50:47,530 --> 00:50:49,810 He had a young boy named Dewey, his son. 618 00:50:50,030 --> 00:50:51,170 Adorable little boy. 619 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:57,280 fan held up a sign that said, Kane Dewey. When I relayed that to my wife, 620 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,860 nearly got sick. Like the idea that someone would take the time to write a 621 00:51:01,860 --> 00:51:07,420 that was more or less advocating the beating of a three -year -old child 622 00:51:07,420 --> 00:51:08,580 made her physically sick. 623 00:51:08,860 --> 00:51:10,880 And that was the impetus. 624 00:51:11,180 --> 00:51:17,540 I looked out into that audience, my adoring crowd, and I saw two simple 625 00:51:17,540 --> 00:51:18,780 that changed my life. 626 00:51:21,420 --> 00:51:22,420 Kane 627 00:51:23,610 --> 00:51:28,730 Dewey. He did the promo where he called the fans heartless bastards who didn't 628 00:51:28,730 --> 00:51:32,450 care about him or anybody else. Fans were over the line. 629 00:51:32,650 --> 00:51:33,970 King Dewey. 630 00:51:34,610 --> 00:51:41,210 Bloodthirsty. King Dewey. And not deserving of the 631 00:51:41,210 --> 00:51:43,270 effort that I was giving. 632 00:51:43,570 --> 00:51:47,550 Dewey Foley is a three -year -old boy. 633 00:51:47,890 --> 00:51:49,770 You sick son of a bitch! 634 00:51:50,310 --> 00:51:52,430 You ripped out my heart! 635 00:51:53,100 --> 00:51:57,580 You took everything I believed in and you flushed it down the damn toilet. 636 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,860 I know it's me saying it, but it was groundbreaking stuff. 637 00:52:03,180 --> 00:52:07,680 But then Nick found a way to make his anger entertaining and went on to have 638 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,420 of the worst matches you ever saw. 639 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,520 He's going to throw a right cross right at that chin. 640 00:52:11,820 --> 00:52:14,100 And he grabs a side headlock. 641 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:20,740 He decides that he's going to do 10 -minute arm locks and 15 -minute 642 00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:22,100 Cactus Jack. 643 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:28,460 is intentionally wrestling the worst match in the history of this great 644 00:52:28,740 --> 00:52:31,240 He just had this headlock on, I forget who, forever. 645 00:52:31,720 --> 00:52:33,780 And the crowd was so mad. 646 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,560 And they're chanting boring, he's chanting boring with them. It was really 647 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,880 to watch the fans get completely irritated with him. 648 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:46,720 It was genius on his part because he was saving his body and getting a bigger 649 00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:50,260 reaction than he had gotten by beating himself to death. 650 00:52:53,130 --> 00:52:54,130 I love being right. 651 00:52:59,010 --> 00:53:00,290 Oh, my God! 652 00:53:07,170 --> 00:53:09,250 Dean and Eddie had amazing matches. 653 00:53:09,650 --> 00:53:14,770 I didn't have to go over the top and scream, oh, my God, to get anyone's 654 00:53:14,770 --> 00:53:16,370 attention during their matches. 655 00:53:16,590 --> 00:53:19,270 Any time you got to see those guys in the ring, everyone was around the 656 00:53:19,270 --> 00:53:20,270 or around a curtain watching. 657 00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:21,470 Their talent. 658 00:53:21,770 --> 00:53:24,530 And the drama they created in the ring spoke for itself. 659 00:53:27,410 --> 00:53:34,290 People have the misconception that ECW 660 00:53:34,290 --> 00:53:35,630 was all about blood and gut. 661 00:53:35,970 --> 00:53:40,710 As bloodthirsty as those fans could be, and were, they appreciated good 662 00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:43,890 wrestling, too. It was kind of like a three -ring circus. 663 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,860 Santa Claus would be chokeslam. You would see someone set on fire, but then 664 00:53:48,860 --> 00:53:51,540 could watch some of the greatest technical wrestling in the world. 665 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:57,440 This will be the last time they will be allowed to take it to the extreme. 666 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,360 The question will be answered. Who is the better man? 667 00:54:01,980 --> 00:54:07,120 It does not get any better than the Malenko -Guerrero classic, as we call 668 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,360 was a night that I share with a good friend, a close friend, somebody I've 669 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:11,360 wrestled many times before. 670 00:54:11,540 --> 00:54:12,760 They took... 671 00:54:13,070 --> 00:54:17,310 The violence that we've been stereotyping, and people forgot about it 672 00:54:17,310 --> 00:54:18,310 moments. 673 00:54:20,790 --> 00:54:22,310 Guerrero takes Malenko down. 674 00:54:24,210 --> 00:54:26,390 Another hip toss, no, monkey flip by the shooter. 675 00:54:26,830 --> 00:54:31,910 I remember the emotion in the ECW arena that night. You can feel the emotion in 676 00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:32,910 this arena. 677 00:54:33,410 --> 00:54:36,290 It was special because of the crowd and the fans. The fans of ECW. 678 00:54:36,590 --> 00:54:38,310 The fans just got into them really quick. 679 00:54:38,790 --> 00:54:41,650 They were like no other fans at that time, and they didn't even play. 680 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:44,860 Goes for flying head scissors. 681 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,200 Goes around back. 682 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,080 Waistlock on the rail. Tries to roll up for me. And he does. He's got the 683 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,080 bridge. Both. 684 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,460 Two. Three. 685 00:54:51,860 --> 00:54:53,040 We've got a double pin. 686 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,400 We've got another draw. 687 00:54:55,660 --> 00:54:56,660 Classic match. 688 00:54:56,700 --> 00:55:01,440 It had the emotion needed for a classic match. Those two really put us on the 689 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,520 map in a different way. I remember myself and Eddie kind of really choked 690 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:06,058 little bit. 691 00:55:06,060 --> 00:55:08,580 Everyone in this building is a little choked up. 692 00:55:08,820 --> 00:55:12,520 It was sad to see him go, but they became, I mean, it was absolutely the 693 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:13,368 move for him. 694 00:55:13,370 --> 00:55:18,430 To this day, people ask me what my favorite match to call was, and it was 695 00:55:18,430 --> 00:55:21,870 the farewell match, the draw between Eddie and Dean. 696 00:55:22,110 --> 00:55:24,070 A highlight in both men's careers. 697 00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:27,470 I think it was a highlight, you know, in the history of ECW for sure. 698 00:55:28,270 --> 00:55:32,290 The night is kind of embedded in my mind for one of the best nights I've ever 699 00:55:32,290 --> 00:55:33,290 had in a wrestling business. 700 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:53,280 They say sometimes all you need is a little head to turn your life upside 701 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,640 I guess I found mine. 702 00:55:58,180 --> 00:56:04,280 Al Snow's problem was always that he was a great wrestler, but he didn't have a 703 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,280 character. 704 00:56:06,780 --> 00:56:13,200 So he came to ECW, and the idea was that the frustration had finally gotten to 705 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,040 Al, and he finally snapped. 706 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,800 He found this mannequin head backstage at the EW Arena. 707 00:56:19,180 --> 00:56:22,840 And I thought it was bad when this buried me all those years. 708 00:56:24,140 --> 00:56:26,060 For God's sake, give me a spot! 709 00:56:26,340 --> 00:56:27,340 Come on! 710 00:56:27,380 --> 00:56:31,540 Can we please have a little privacy? 711 00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:36,900 Alex knowing Hedwig was a crazy thing because I don't think it was intended to 712 00:56:36,900 --> 00:56:37,900 be a big deal. 713 00:56:38,060 --> 00:56:38,879 That's right! 714 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:39,880 He's wonderful! 715 00:56:40,220 --> 00:56:41,220 He's a shooter! 716 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:42,779 It was just... 717 00:56:42,780 --> 00:56:45,640 We'll give him some kind of gimmick and make him crazy and that'll be fine. 718 00:56:48,260 --> 00:56:51,300 And it just caught on like crazy. 719 00:56:55,080 --> 00:57:00,060 All of a sudden you see all these white foam heads and it's like head, head, 720 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,340 head, head. And I remember looking out going, this is cool. 721 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,620 And here comes the man who started this madness. 722 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,480 An athlete who you might say is ahead of his time. 723 00:57:11,370 --> 00:57:16,310 We got to the point where we were buying, you know, hundreds or even up to 724 00:57:16,310 --> 00:57:20,490 thousand mannequin heads for pay -per -views and passing them out to fans, and 725 00:57:20,490 --> 00:57:22,330 it made Al a star. 726 00:57:22,610 --> 00:57:23,609 We got heads! 727 00:57:23,610 --> 00:57:24,610 We got heads! 728 00:57:24,910 --> 00:57:31,670 We got heads! We got heads! We got heads! We got heads! It's a sea of 729 00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:35,510 and white styrofoam heads, and it's a really cool visual. 730 00:57:36,299 --> 00:57:40,900 It's probably one of the most coolest things I think I've ever seen in ECW. 731 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,500 I mean, if somebody told you they saw this at the arena, you'd think they were 732 00:57:44,500 --> 00:57:45,500 kidding, right? 733 00:57:45,860 --> 00:57:50,380 Watching that entrance, it's a lot of energy, and it's something you want to 734 00:57:50,380 --> 00:57:51,138 part of. 735 00:57:51,140 --> 00:57:52,360 You could feel the crowd. 736 00:57:52,620 --> 00:57:55,300 I don't know whether they were stomping their feet or just them bobbing their 737 00:57:55,300 --> 00:57:56,720 heads and banging their heads together. 738 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,880 You could hear it and feel the building shaking. 739 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,240 He was ridiculously over it. 740 00:58:35,820 --> 00:58:40,000 Taz and Sabu were very, very, very competitive. They both had chips on 741 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,000 shoulders. 742 00:58:41,620 --> 00:58:47,060 Absolutely, Taz and Sabu did not get along, did not like each other outside 743 00:58:47,060 --> 00:58:48,360 the ring as well as inside of the ring. 744 00:58:49,220 --> 00:58:55,960 Sabu legitimately left ECW, left ECW high and dry, left Paul high and dry, 745 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,400 Taz high and dry to go do a gig in Japan. 746 00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:03,860 One member of our dressing room will not grace you. 747 00:59:04,490 --> 00:59:10,590 For what you paid to see, bottom line, Sabu decided to go in Japan tonight. 748 00:59:13,570 --> 00:59:18,590 Paul had come out and told the ECW arena what Sabu had done. 749 00:59:19,290 --> 00:59:24,550 And the only way he's going to walk his miserable ass to that door anymore is if 750 00:59:24,550 --> 00:59:30,750 you people say we forgive him for choosing the Japanese audience over us. 751 00:59:32,430 --> 00:59:36,770 And eventually Paul and Sabu were able to, you know, get back on the same page 752 00:59:36,770 --> 00:59:37,770 and do business. 753 00:59:37,810 --> 00:59:40,590 And that was the big deal. That was the big build. 754 00:59:41,110 --> 00:59:43,770 Sabu versus Taz. I think it was like a year. 755 00:59:44,050 --> 00:59:46,230 It was a build up to the match at Barely Legal. 756 00:59:46,490 --> 00:59:49,510 And we were all around the ring for it because it was a big moment. 757 00:59:49,730 --> 00:59:53,770 Come on, Sabu. Let's get this shit on. Enough with the games. It's been a year. 758 00:59:53,850 --> 00:59:54,850 Bring it. 759 00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:59,670 It sounds so cliche to say you could feel the energy in the air, but you 760 01:00:03,050 --> 01:00:08,170 The lights are out. The droning sensors automatically go up. I knew, and Sabu 761 01:00:08,170 --> 01:00:12,950 knew, that once those lights came on, that the place was going to be loud. 762 01:00:13,950 --> 01:00:14,950 Lights off. 763 01:00:15,070 --> 01:00:16,070 Lights on. 764 01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:18,490 Taz and Sabu are standing in the ring looking at each other. 765 01:00:18,790 --> 01:00:19,790 Boom! 766 01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:21,390 Explosive pop. 767 01:00:28,030 --> 01:00:32,210 I am not joking. 768 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,060 It's not an exaggeration. I felt the ring moving. 769 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:40,740 Philadelphia, being really well -educated wrestling fans who kind of 770 01:00:40,740 --> 01:00:41,900 coming, they didn't know that was coming. 771 01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:47,400 And to see them face -to -face, and right before there's that first blow, 772 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:48,400 are off. 773 01:00:54,060 --> 01:00:58,360 And then once it was over and we got backstage, I'm like, man, we are doomed 774 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,200 this pay -per -view. There's no way we're living up that high because I know 775 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:02,200 we're in trouble. 776 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:17,360 Steve Austin had had a falling out with Eric Bischoff, and Eric had fired Steve. 777 01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:22,220 Paul Heyman knew that Steve was an immensely talented performer. 778 01:01:22,780 --> 01:01:27,180 So he called up Steve, just come up here and do promos, because I know you can 779 01:01:27,180 --> 01:01:31,960 talk. And he looked at Paul and said, what do you want me to say? And Paul 780 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:36,240 I want you to vent your soul into the camera. 781 01:01:36,540 --> 01:01:38,360 So then I am floundering along. 782 01:01:38,970 --> 01:01:44,790 There's nothing going my way because the politics in WCW kept the biggest 783 01:01:44,790 --> 01:01:49,810 potential superstar in wrestling on the damn ground. 784 01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:56,970 Long before Eric Bischoff went after WWE, Steve Austin went after Eric 785 01:01:56,970 --> 01:02:02,750 Bischoff. Hello, everybody, and welcome to Monday Night Raw, where the big boys 786 01:02:02,750 --> 01:02:05,770 play with each other. I apologize for the booms. 787 01:02:06,140 --> 01:02:10,580 But I had to fire the pyrotechnician guy because he couldn't show up. I did it 788 01:02:10,580 --> 01:02:14,700 over the phone, no less, but I had to fire him. It's technically not a great 789 01:02:14,700 --> 01:02:20,160 Bischoff imitation, you know, but it was so full of emotion and nobody had 790 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,900 thought to do that. I remember sticking around late at night and watching Stone 791 01:02:23,900 --> 01:02:26,400 Cold do his Hulk Hogan. 792 01:02:26,670 --> 01:02:32,890 impersonation and it was awesome i'd 793 01:02:32,890 --> 01:02:39,450 never seen steve do imitations like i didn't know he could do imitations you 794 01:02:39,450 --> 01:02:43,690 people get up every morning you throw a ham and cheese sandwich in a metal 795 01:02:43,690 --> 01:02:48,470 lunchbox you put your time plot you let some jack off yell at you for nine hours 796 01:02:48,470 --> 01:02:53,030 then you push out and go back home to some hag i'll never do that man 797 01:02:54,030 --> 01:02:58,290 That first glimpse of Stone Cold Steve Austin, who was a personality, was seen 798 01:02:58,290 --> 01:03:02,490 in ECW. And I don't know that ECW or Paul could take credit for it because it 799 01:03:02,490 --> 01:03:07,030 was just Steve being allowed to be Steve. That's not a promise. That's the 800 01:03:07,030 --> 01:03:07,908 bottom line. 801 01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:09,810 Because Stone Cold said so. 802 01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:15,470 I'll be the ECW champ, the only champ that means a damn thing. 803 01:03:16,050 --> 01:03:17,570 And that's the bottom line. 804 01:03:18,610 --> 01:03:21,730 Steve was handed a microphone and Steve made himself. 805 01:03:22,300 --> 01:03:29,100 Because there's no one, no one in ACW 806 01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:31,260 that can stop me. 807 01:03:53,870 --> 01:03:58,730 ECW Arena is very legendary and very fondly remembered, but it was a dump. 808 01:03:59,170 --> 01:04:02,390 It wasn't the most technically sound building. 809 01:04:02,630 --> 01:04:07,670 This night was a very memorable night because it was over 100 degrees in the 810 01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:09,830 building, and the ring kept breaking. 811 01:04:10,070 --> 01:04:12,890 The crowd was like, F the ring, F the ring. 812 01:04:13,290 --> 01:04:17,190 So the ring broke, and they had to fix it, and it took a long time. I'm 813 01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:20,270 30 minutes, 45 minutes, and the crowd's starting to get restless. 814 01:04:22,830 --> 01:04:25,570 So Kimona was there, this gorgeous Asian girl. 815 01:04:26,190 --> 01:04:31,410 Kimona Winalea, she was beautiful, very eye -catching, who happened to have 816 01:04:31,410 --> 01:04:34,430 another talent besides being a wrestling valet. 817 01:04:34,790 --> 01:04:36,590 I want to be a cameraman tonight. 818 01:04:37,350 --> 01:04:41,070 Paul just ran to her and said, we need time, we need time. Can you go up there 819 01:04:41,070 --> 01:04:42,070 and strip? 820 01:04:42,410 --> 01:04:43,610 All of a sudden I hear music. 821 01:04:43,850 --> 01:04:48,430 And I said, oh, they might have got everything back up again. And no, Kimona 822 01:04:48,430 --> 01:04:50,270 started doing a strip tease. 823 01:04:57,900 --> 01:05:01,340 And if you go back and look, you can see there's a bunch of holes in the back 824 01:05:01,340 --> 01:05:04,260 where everybody's eyes are like this because we're trying to see. 825 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:10,200 I'm right there, meaning I'm behind her. I felt like I was getting my own lap 826 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,200 dance. 827 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,000 And I remember I was standing there with Terry Gordy, and Terry was like, I 828 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,080 ain't never seen this at no wrestling match. 829 01:05:21,700 --> 01:05:22,940 Spits the big thing in the... 830 01:05:23,340 --> 01:05:26,160 chewing tobacco in the cup. And I was like, I haven't seen this either, Terry. 831 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,280 Haven't seen it before and haven't seen it since. 832 01:05:29,300 --> 01:05:34,880 And it sold a lot of VHS tapes. You can still hear me saying Extreme Warfare 833 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:40,200 Volume 2, the night Kimono Wanalea danced atop the ECW arena. 834 01:05:40,780 --> 01:05:44,320 It was a night at the ECW arena when the ring had collapsed. 835 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:45,860 We needed a diversion. 836 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,160 Kimono Wanalea provided one. 837 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:50,660 That saved the day. 838 01:05:51,150 --> 01:05:55,050 The fans were very happy, and the ring finally was fixed. I think they were 839 01:05:55,050 --> 01:05:56,870 chanting for Kimono during the next match. 840 01:05:57,570 --> 01:06:01,150 Who else would do that? If the ice melts in an NHL game, they're not going to be 841 01:06:01,150 --> 01:06:03,690 like, oh, find a hype girl and put her on the stage. ECW did. 842 01:06:03,990 --> 01:06:06,770 They offered the refund if anybody wanted to leave. 843 01:06:07,170 --> 01:06:10,170 I don't think anybody got their refund. I think they stayed for the show. 844 01:06:42,910 --> 01:06:48,150 That was the night that me and Devon were leaving ECW and getting ready to 845 01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:49,370 over to the WWE. 846 01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:51,370 Everybody knew we were leaving. 847 01:06:51,810 --> 01:06:55,870 This matchup for the World Tag Team title belt is underway. 848 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:12,080 Nobody expected Balls and I to lose the match and drop the titles to him. 849 01:07:13,700 --> 01:07:17,660 I said that we were going to take the ECW championships and we were going to 850 01:07:17,660 --> 01:07:21,540 them at the feet at Vince McMahon on the altar of the WWE. 851 01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:25,840 If you're an ECW fan, that's the worst thing you can do. 852 01:07:26,140 --> 01:07:28,500 We will go on Monday night. 853 01:07:47,950 --> 01:07:49,910 going to leave with the titles. 854 01:07:50,430 --> 01:07:52,390 So how would we get out of this? 855 01:07:52,650 --> 01:07:54,070 Paul had an ace up his sleeve. 856 01:07:58,390 --> 01:07:58,730 Raven 857 01:07:58,730 --> 01:08:12,010 slid 858 01:08:12,010 --> 01:08:15,870 in. Place erupts. No one knew he was going to do that. He hit him in the 859 01:08:16,220 --> 01:08:23,180 I'll say it's probably in the top two or three loudest reactions ever in 860 01:08:23,180 --> 01:08:24,180 ECW. 861 01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,880 Raven is back in ECW! 862 01:08:28,020 --> 01:08:32,600 Moments like those are the moments you live for. Those are the moments in life 863 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,020 where it's just like, wow. 864 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:39,899 Another swerve in the whole Raven -Tommy Dreamer saga because now these two guys 865 01:08:39,899 --> 01:08:43,040 who have just beaten the hell out of each other are now tag team champions. 866 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,580 Tommy Dreamer and Raven! 867 01:08:46,170 --> 01:08:50,109 Or the new ECW World Tag Team Champion! 868 01:08:50,990 --> 01:08:55,090 Welcome back! Welcome back! Welcome back! 869 01:08:56,890 --> 01:08:58,790 Oh my God! 870 01:09:05,630 --> 01:09:07,189 Excuse me! 871 01:09:09,029 --> 01:09:11,029 Excuse me! 872 01:09:13,010 --> 01:09:15,109 Paul gets with me before. 873 01:09:15,779 --> 01:09:19,479 He had warned me about the New York fans, and back kind of in the day when I 874 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,359 wrestling, I'd always done a gimmick where I would challenge the people to 875 01:09:22,359 --> 01:09:23,359 the ring. 876 01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:30,939 And I'd kind of been warned about doing this, but I was like, I don't care, so I 877 01:09:30,939 --> 01:09:31,939 had Rhino with me. 878 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,560 Well, being New York, the fans actually did try to hit the ring. And I was like, 879 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:50,600 look at Rhino. I'm like, well. 880 01:09:55,020 --> 01:09:59,800 We've got a cop in the ring, and Rhino just cuts this cop in half with a boar. 881 01:10:02,660 --> 01:10:03,940 And the hell was that? 882 01:10:05,300 --> 01:10:09,080 Some people still question, like, is that real? Is that a police officer? 883 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,380 That moment of speculation is what people would go for. 884 01:10:13,380 --> 01:10:18,100 People throw around the word riot or near riot and whatever, but it really 885 01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:22,320 exactly that. And the security team that we had at that building really earned 886 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:23,320 their money that night. 887 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,260 A full -scale war has broken out! 888 01:10:26,660 --> 01:10:30,940 What Paul was always great at doing was flowing one segment into another segment 889 01:10:30,940 --> 01:10:34,120 into another segment. So you really never got to catch your breath on some 890 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:35,120 the ECW shows. 891 01:10:46,540 --> 01:10:50,380 Kid Cash was way ahead of his time in terms of his acrobatics and what he 892 01:10:50,380 --> 01:10:52,140 do and is really underrated. 893 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,960 The ECW locker room is still in the aisle. 894 01:10:58,900 --> 01:11:01,280 Kid Cash goes to the air. 895 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:09,400 Kid Cash just jumps on everybody as a domino effect. 896 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,600 Everybody falls down, a lot of energy. 897 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,040 All hell has broken loose here at the Hammerstein. 898 01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:20,840 It went from being a pseudo -dangerous situation to kind of, okay, this is just 899 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,960 a really over -wrestling segment. 900 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:45,200 It was one of the most craziest things I think I've ever seen. 901 01:11:48,590 --> 01:11:52,590 i've never experienced a more hostile crowd towards one individual 902 01:11:52,590 --> 01:11:59,390 the death it got in the ecw 903 01:11:59,390 --> 01:12:06,270 arena that real life feeling when people 904 01:12:06,270 --> 01:12:13,270 are shocked gary confronting the franchise and the 905 01:12:13,270 --> 01:12:14,270 fridge 906 01:12:18,250 --> 01:12:23,310 Shane Douglas had broken Gary Wolf's neck with a DDT on a championship. 907 01:12:24,490 --> 01:12:29,130 When Gary Wolf got in the ring to confront Shane Douglas and Shane Douglas 908 01:12:29,130 --> 01:12:35,730 grabbed him by the halo and shook him and threw him down, it was one of the 909 01:12:35,730 --> 01:12:38,470 despicable, unthinkable things we had ever seen. 910 01:12:39,170 --> 01:12:44,210 Shane grabbed it, threw him down, and people were like, whoa, you just crossed 911 01:12:44,210 --> 01:12:44,929 the line. 912 01:12:44,930 --> 01:12:47,070 A man with basically a shattered neck. 913 01:12:47,470 --> 01:12:51,110 Being held in place by this halo. It's not just a regular neck collar. 914 01:12:51,490 --> 01:12:54,570 It's this apparatus that looks like, you know, it looks like machinery. 915 01:12:54,930 --> 01:12:55,930 You're cringing. 916 01:12:56,890 --> 01:12:58,050 Cringing in the locker room. 917 01:12:58,350 --> 01:13:00,030 People are like, oh no, oh my God. 918 01:13:00,350 --> 01:13:02,370 Definitely a scary moment, man. 919 01:13:02,750 --> 01:13:06,390 I don't understand. Gary, if you're listening up there, I don't understand 920 01:13:06,390 --> 01:13:07,870 everybody's so angry with me. 921 01:13:08,210 --> 01:13:12,170 Why everybody's so damned upset with what I've done to you. 922 01:13:12,810 --> 01:13:14,010 He's just a mastermind. 923 01:13:14,510 --> 01:13:15,770 And capable of anything. 924 01:13:16,460 --> 01:13:18,100 and will stoop to any depth. 925 01:13:18,740 --> 01:13:22,700 And the franchise was just that kind of guy. He was, for lack of a better term, 926 01:13:22,700 --> 01:13:23,700 his comeback. 927 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:29,360 You see, the swim from the island behind me, for a franchise, that's nothing 928 01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:30,360 more than a light workout. 929 01:13:30,820 --> 01:13:35,160 But for you, Gary Wolf, it is something that you will never do. 930 01:13:35,540 --> 01:13:38,300 There were people who really wanted to beat him up. That worked for the 931 01:13:39,460 --> 01:13:40,540 Oh, my God! 932 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,760 Fans were going to... I really thought they were going to kill Shane. 933 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:50,040 They started rioting. They started hopping the ring. They started getting 934 01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,460 the guardrail faster than security would stop them. 935 01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:54,820 They thought there was going to be a riot. 936 01:13:57,620 --> 01:14:01,580 It got to the point where they had to escort Shane out of the building to his 937 01:14:01,580 --> 01:14:04,180 car and to another hotel for what he was saying. 938 01:14:04,660 --> 01:14:06,260 He had that much heat. 939 01:14:08,220 --> 01:14:12,040 We had to run Shane Douglas out of the back of the building and drive him away. 940 01:14:16,410 --> 01:14:18,810 Shane was lucky he escaped out of that. It sure helps. 941 01:14:20,150 --> 01:14:22,010 It would have been, it was bad. 942 01:14:22,670 --> 01:14:23,930 It was really, really bad. 943 01:15:06,440 --> 01:15:11,860 His rocker, Brian Pillman, was a perfect fit for extreme championship wrestling 944 01:15:11,860 --> 01:15:17,600 because we were the island of misfit toys, and Brian Pillman was the biggest 945 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:18,600 lunatic of them all. 946 01:15:18,980 --> 01:15:25,640 I have been fired by Eric Bischoff! 947 01:15:27,180 --> 01:15:32,280 Pillman was one of those guys that had been misused for his whole career. Like, 948 01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:33,860 the office thought he was too small. 949 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,060 Bischoff, or should I... 950 01:15:45,550 --> 01:15:50,270 I remember Brian's debut as being completely bizarre. 951 01:15:50,610 --> 01:15:52,430 You're not running this interview. 952 01:15:52,650 --> 01:15:55,130 I am. Because I'm Brian. 953 01:15:56,270 --> 01:15:57,270 Film it. 954 01:15:58,290 --> 01:16:00,230 Indy Combs, he had that cane. 955 01:16:00,430 --> 01:16:02,330 He looked different. He acted different. 956 01:16:03,010 --> 01:16:08,630 He was known as the loose cannon around that time. And people didn't know what 957 01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:09,630 he was going to do. 958 01:16:15,530 --> 01:16:20,350 He came in and threatened to urinate in the room and cut the Philly fans down 959 01:16:20,350 --> 01:16:21,410 like crazy. 960 01:16:21,710 --> 01:16:27,590 Eric Bischoff is each and every one of these mothers. 961 01:16:28,510 --> 01:16:31,910 Smart marks roll up in a leg. 962 01:16:32,130 --> 01:16:33,330 Giant pieces. 963 01:16:34,410 --> 01:16:39,550 They hated Brian Pillman by the end of that night, but it was absolutely what 964 01:16:39,550 --> 01:16:40,550 was necessary. 965 01:16:45,260 --> 01:16:46,199 Man, he was intense. 966 01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,480 That was such an intense moment for ECW. 967 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:57,080 A great moment, but also like a very unsettling moment in ECW history. 968 01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,360 Brian really never let down his guard on the insanity gimmick. 969 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:09,140 We were all staying at the same hotel in Philadelphia, and Brian was there. 970 01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:13,060 And I remember riding an elevator up to my room with him. 971 01:17:13,580 --> 01:17:16,460 And, like, two other people, and I was scared. 972 01:17:18,140 --> 01:17:20,980 Everyone was looking at him and, like, thinking that he was nuts. 973 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:26,080 And I remember he looked at me and caught my gaze and winked. 974 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,920 Yes, he was crazy, but I think he was putting on an act. 975 01:17:29,420 --> 01:17:34,520 It set forth a sea of imitation, and none of it was quite as good as the 976 01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:35,520 original. 977 01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:56,600 Terry Funk and Cactus Jack had some death matches in Japan. 978 01:17:57,300 --> 01:18:03,980 Harry and I had started including fire in our matches in 979 01:18:03,980 --> 01:18:05,860 Japan in January of 1995. 980 01:18:06,420 --> 01:18:10,540 And had beaten one another up and tore each other apart, and Paul had to have 981 01:18:10,540 --> 01:18:11,680 these matches in America. 982 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,200 They used fire overseas. 983 01:18:14,580 --> 01:18:17,500 You know, we'd better use some fire here. 984 01:18:17,940 --> 01:18:20,180 It's gonna be a hot time. 985 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:22,540 In the ECW. 986 01:18:22,820 --> 01:18:26,860 These are the two guys that actually bought ECW style to America. 987 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,600 Terry and I felt pressure to live up to this thing that we had set. 988 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,940 We had to up the ante. 989 01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,800 I'm not afraid of fire, and I'm not afraid. 990 01:18:45,580 --> 01:18:50,440 There was a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure to succeed and excel and live 991 01:18:50,440 --> 01:18:51,780 to expectations. 992 01:18:53,480 --> 01:18:58,700 Folks got a flaming branding iron! Branding iron was a painful but 993 01:18:58,700 --> 01:19:00,580 tool of the trade. 994 01:19:04,620 --> 01:19:06,700 He's tearing off Katniss' shirt! 995 01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:08,700 I took a precaution. 996 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:14,460 You know, I wet my shirt, you know, like I taped a washcloth, wet washcloth. 997 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,800 He's trying to burn tactics. 998 01:19:17,060 --> 01:19:19,660 You play with fire, you do get burned. 999 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,800 He's doing it. He's branding tactics with a flaming branding iron. 1000 01:19:24,100 --> 01:19:25,160 Oh, my God. 1001 01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,380 It's on fire, you know. It's fire. 1002 01:19:27,740 --> 01:19:28,740 It's fire. 1003 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,540 You can feel that kind of rubber, you know, melting. 1004 01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:36,380 Tactics is in trouble. 1005 01:19:36,900 --> 01:19:40,840 It was a really uncomfortable feeling, but it looked good. 1006 01:19:41,420 --> 01:19:45,280 On video. And in the end, you know, 20 years down the road, that's all you 1007 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:46,280 really care about. 1008 01:19:46,620 --> 01:19:50,700 He's doing it! He's Brandon Cactus with a flaming branding! Oh, 1009 01:19:50,700 --> 01:19:55,360 my God! 1010 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:09,940 McTaggy matchup. Rob Van Dam and his manager, former referee Bill Alfonso. 1011 01:20:10,300 --> 01:20:14,080 To take out Tommy Dreamer and Eula McGillicud. 1012 01:20:17,060 --> 01:20:20,440 Sam Booth hit the ring and kicked Tommy Dreamer right in the face. 1013 01:20:22,940 --> 01:20:27,080 Tommy Dreamer is down and Rob Van Dam is leaving. 1014 01:20:28,500 --> 01:20:35,160 The matchup is still in progress, but is it going to be Eula and Fonzie? 1015 01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,160 Eula was not trained to be a wrestler. 1016 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:40,380 She had an amazing performance. 1017 01:20:41,140 --> 01:20:44,060 Anzi was a little stiff, but he wanted to deliver it back. 1018 01:20:46,140 --> 01:20:47,140 Bullseye! 1019 01:20:54,020 --> 01:20:57,700 Oh, Bella Alfonso has busted open. She caught him good. 1020 01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:02,140 He got cut, and he got cut back. 1021 01:21:02,500 --> 01:21:05,160 I mean, neither one of them are wrestlers. So for them to go out there 1022 01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:06,960 that type of match was phenomenal. 1023 01:21:15,270 --> 01:21:19,270 Bueller was a hell of an athlete. She did a great job in there that night. She 1024 01:21:19,270 --> 01:21:22,190 got her ass kicked and she gave it back. 1025 01:21:23,830 --> 01:21:29,830 In the name of Tommy Freeman, Bueller is taking it to the extreme. 1026 01:21:31,250 --> 01:21:35,310 Was it a 10 -star match? No, of course not. But as far as passion behind it and 1027 01:21:35,310 --> 01:21:36,970 work ethic, they put it all out there. 1028 01:21:53,870 --> 01:21:57,450 Watching Beulah come back to the locker room just covered head to toe like she'd 1029 01:21:57,450 --> 01:22:00,350 just done a cameo in a Carrie movie, it was just crazy. 1030 01:22:00,850 --> 01:22:05,570 And she couldn't get the clothes off of her quick enough, even like her 1031 01:22:05,570 --> 01:22:07,490 sneakers. When she was walking, you'd hear it. 1032 01:22:08,310 --> 01:22:10,310 And it wasn't her blood. It was someone else's. 1033 01:22:12,190 --> 01:22:17,070 Ponzi was about to be let go from ECW. 1034 01:22:17,430 --> 01:22:20,950 He had had some problems with Paul, and there was some stuff going on behind the 1035 01:22:20,950 --> 01:22:25,160 scenes. And that was supposed to be his last night. Took such an amazing 1036 01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,140 beating, and it was just such an incredible moment that I think it saved 1037 01:22:28,140 --> 01:22:29,140 job. 1038 01:22:29,300 --> 01:22:34,180 But he went out there and had such a great match with Bula that by the end of 1039 01:22:34,180 --> 01:22:37,260 the match, I think Paul just said, all right, we're just going to let bygones 1040 01:22:37,260 --> 01:22:38,700 bygones, and you can stick around. 1041 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:40,680 And that was one of the things that Paulie did. 1042 01:22:41,060 --> 01:22:42,060 He forgave him. 1043 01:22:56,390 --> 01:23:00,570 You know, in the business, there's cycles where two guys will be having the 1044 01:23:00,570 --> 01:23:04,650 matches in the world for six months or so. And at that time, it was really 1045 01:23:04,650 --> 01:23:05,650 and Rob. 1046 01:23:06,550 --> 01:23:08,870 Rob Van Dam versus Jerry Link. 1047 01:23:10,390 --> 01:23:13,250 It's as good as it gets anywhere in professional wrestling. 1048 01:23:16,250 --> 01:23:19,910 You could put those guys on, and you know it was going to steal the show. You 1049 01:23:19,910 --> 01:23:21,090 know it was going to tear the house down. 1050 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,840 I think Jerry Lynn was the only one who was athletically gifted enough to keep 1051 01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:31,560 up with Rob Van Dam because he was the only one who was as fast and as quick as 1052 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:35,460 Rob was. And you go back and you watch those matches and some of the things 1053 01:23:35,460 --> 01:23:37,360 did, and it was absolutely amazing. 1054 01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:42,620 The first time I wrestled him, the match ended up going over 20 minutes. I had a 1055 01:23:42,620 --> 01:23:46,920 bloody nose. My outfit was ripped. My hair was all over the place. 1056 01:23:47,500 --> 01:23:50,380 The crowd understands when people are working hard. 1057 01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,480 and they knew how hard those guys were working. 1058 01:23:53,940 --> 01:23:58,000 When you saw Jerry Lynn and RVD on the show wrestling against each other, you 1059 01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,580 know you were going to get your money's worth. 1060 01:24:04,700 --> 01:24:10,640 I took Jerry, and we ended up wrestling again and again and again, and we always 1061 01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:15,700 seemed to outdo what we did before, like a counter to his counter to my counter 1062 01:24:15,700 --> 01:24:18,880 to his offensive move, and it set like new standards. 1063 01:24:19,820 --> 01:24:23,600 Rob Van Dam versus Jerry Lynn is ECW. 1064 01:24:24,140 --> 01:24:27,840 Wow, how can they top this one? And they go out there and they top it. 1065 01:24:28,300 --> 01:24:29,740 Matches like that inspire people. 1066 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,640 That's Flair Steamboat for ECW is Rob Van Dam, Jerry Lynn. 1067 01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,560 And if you look at those matches, you'll have a hard time finding something 1068 01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:41,460 that's as athletic as what those two were doing within the confines of 1069 01:24:41,460 --> 01:24:42,460 storytelling. 1070 01:24:47,420 --> 01:24:52,420 After my matches with Jerry Lynn, so many times when I would wrestle someone 1071 01:24:52,420 --> 01:24:56,500 that I haven't wrestled before, they would say, hey, man, you know, it'd be 1072 01:24:56,500 --> 01:24:58,440 cool. Can we do some of that RVD Jerry Lynn stuff? 1073 01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:00,360 No, you can't. 1074 01:25:00,740 --> 01:25:04,080 Van Dam now sends Jerry Lynn to the right. Drop down, split leg. 1075 01:25:04,300 --> 01:25:05,300 Leg drop misses. 1076 01:25:05,500 --> 01:25:06,680 Bustle like kick duck. 1077 01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,040 Leg sweep. 1078 01:25:08,480 --> 01:25:09,480 Elbow misses. 1079 01:25:40,839 --> 01:25:47,040 requested that he give this opportunity to Tommy Dreamer, who Taz felt deserves 1080 01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:52,460 the opportunity more than anyone else on the ECW roster, and who could argue 1081 01:25:52,460 --> 01:25:53,460 with that? 1082 01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:57,820 Tommy, you know, had never been the ECW champion, and he was the hood ornament 1083 01:25:57,820 --> 01:26:02,100 in the company for so long, you know, and the heart and soul, literally, of 1084 01:26:02,100 --> 01:26:04,080 company. Blood, sweat, tears, legitimately. 1085 01:26:05,100 --> 01:26:07,320 From what I remember, they had a hell of a match. 1086 01:26:08,140 --> 01:26:09,140 Taz! 1087 01:26:25,630 --> 01:26:27,410 I've waited my whole life for this. 1088 01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:29,670 I may never make it to WrestleMania. 1089 01:26:30,270 --> 01:26:32,410 I never want to make it to Starrcade. 1090 01:26:37,930 --> 01:26:40,930 I just thought Tommy was one of those guys that should always be chasing the 1091 01:26:40,930 --> 01:26:44,330 belt and always just miss it because Tommy was such a great, compelling 1092 01:26:44,330 --> 01:26:49,370 babyface. He wanted to go his whole ECW run and never win the title. That was 1093 01:26:49,370 --> 01:26:50,370 his goal. 1094 01:26:50,570 --> 01:26:53,890 Everybody else wants to win the title. Dreamer wanted to get this close but 1095 01:26:53,890 --> 01:26:56,730 never make it. I never wanted to win a title in ECW. 1096 01:26:57,130 --> 01:26:58,370 I didn't feel I needed it. 1097 01:26:59,090 --> 01:27:04,090 I never wanted people to say I got what I got because I was friends with Paul or 1098 01:27:04,090 --> 01:27:05,530 I had any stroke in the company. 1099 01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:10,100 And then Paul was like, you are my stable rock. You are the stability of 1100 01:27:10,100 --> 01:27:13,020 company. I have to put it on you. 1101 01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:19,720 To all my fans that are here in other companies up in the heaven, and all you 1102 01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,240 fans, thank you very much. 1103 01:27:48,980 --> 01:27:54,900 Paul came up with, get your pictures, put it around your shoulder, never wear 1104 01:27:54,900 --> 01:27:57,220 the title. Never put it around your waist. 1105 01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:07,820 Tommy Dreamer never even got a chance to wear 1106 01:28:07,820 --> 01:28:08,820 that belt. 1107 01:28:09,220 --> 01:28:11,260 There's not one picture of him wearing the title. 1108 01:28:11,540 --> 01:28:12,900 He never wore the title. 1109 01:28:13,380 --> 01:28:19,120 And that was the next hurdle for Tommy Dreamer. Which actually put more 1110 01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,040 on Tommy because he had the moment and then it got pulled away from him. 1111 01:28:23,220 --> 01:28:24,480 Oh, that was like a big joke. 1112 01:28:24,900 --> 01:28:26,400 Dude, you're the champ, like five minutes. 1113 01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,020 You know, so I was like, yeah, it's just Tommy. That's the way it goes for him. 1114 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:39,020 Most of these oh -my -god moments all result in me losing or getting beat up. 1115 01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:40,360 It's worthless ever. 1116 01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:41,680 Continue. 1117 01:28:43,980 --> 01:28:45,320 Oh, my God! 1118 01:28:52,440 --> 01:28:53,500 The throw. 1119 01:28:53,860 --> 01:28:55,560 Oh, God bless the throw. 1120 01:28:56,260 --> 01:28:58,560 It was an awesome moment. 1121 01:29:00,460 --> 01:29:01,460 Tremendous. 1122 01:29:02,860 --> 01:29:04,420 It made me... 1123 01:29:07,470 --> 01:29:12,970 The first time we did it was at the 1997 Hardcore Heaven, but the camera 1124 01:29:12,970 --> 01:29:16,030 lighting sucked, and it didn't pick up well. 1125 01:29:16,710 --> 01:29:17,710 Oh, my God! 1126 01:29:19,030 --> 01:29:22,370 So we came back to the Philadelphia Arena, and we did it again, and it was 1127 01:29:22,370 --> 01:29:23,370 crazy. 1128 01:29:29,890 --> 01:29:32,970 Bam Bam took him. 1129 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:37,440 six feet away from the ring, and picked him up and threw him. 1130 01:29:39,380 --> 01:29:40,920 He's got Spike up! 1131 01:29:42,820 --> 01:29:43,860 Oh, my God! 1132 01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:49,680 I just can't imagine what was going through Spike's head with that 10, 15 1133 01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:51,340 of air time going, God, please be there. 1134 01:29:52,900 --> 01:29:54,420 Don't drop me, don't drop me. 1135 01:29:54,640 --> 01:30:00,980 Bam Bam Bigelow threw Spike over the top rope, cleared the guardrail to the 1136 01:30:00,980 --> 01:30:05,990 crowd. You got to think of why he did that, because you could count on that 1137 01:30:05,990 --> 01:30:06,990 crowd. 1138 01:30:07,010 --> 01:30:10,550 I landed in the third or fourth row, and they caught me, and they surfed me 1139 01:30:10,550 --> 01:30:14,330 around, and it was the loudest moment ever in the ECW arena. 1140 01:30:14,950 --> 01:30:18,290 We've got Barney surfing at the ECW arena! 1141 01:30:18,830 --> 01:30:22,510 They wound up surfing him. It was the coolest thing in the world. 1142 01:30:24,910 --> 01:30:27,050 And this crowd is pretty adamant. 1143 01:30:27,470 --> 01:30:30,850 And what this crowd wants, this crowd... 1144 01:30:37,130 --> 01:30:38,690 I don't think it had ever happened before. 1145 01:30:40,070 --> 01:30:41,930 It will never happen again. 1146 01:30:42,730 --> 01:30:47,090 That was awesome for us. And for the fans, come on. You bought a ticket to 1147 01:30:47,090 --> 01:30:49,690 of wrestling shows. You got to hold the wrestler. 1148 01:30:50,050 --> 01:30:51,850 Maybe pick his pocket, too. I don't know. 1149 01:30:52,250 --> 01:30:53,990 It was very, very interactive. 1150 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:20,320 This was one of those moments in my career that was just a unique night. 1151 01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:24,200 Scotty Anton, you heard any of the hype about the Van Terminator? I have. 1152 01:31:24,460 --> 01:31:28,740 I had promoted that I've got this new move that's better than anything you've 1153 01:31:28,740 --> 01:31:29,740 ever seen before. 1154 01:31:29,860 --> 01:31:31,720 I know that it can rattle your brain. 1155 01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:37,040 Congratulations, Scotty. You deserve it. Enjoy your buzz. And Terminator, daddy. 1156 01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:43,220 The fans all saw the promotion and they were all waiting for it and ready for 1157 01:31:43,220 --> 01:31:44,220 it. 1158 01:31:49,070 --> 01:31:52,470 The most devastating maneuver in professional wrestling history. 1159 01:31:52,750 --> 01:31:55,310 He calls it the Grand Terminator. 1160 01:31:55,670 --> 01:32:00,350 And then Scotty Anton was way in the other corner and they were just chanting 1161 01:32:00,350 --> 01:32:01,350 Terminator. 1162 01:32:07,110 --> 01:32:09,350 Talk about pressure. 1163 01:32:09,670 --> 01:32:13,310 Seriously. I mean, this was like the moment was on. 1164 01:32:29,420 --> 01:32:34,480 Rob didn't even climb the turnbuckles. Rob springboarded up to the top rope and 1165 01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:38,820 then leapt across the ring with those gigantic quads of his and drove his 1166 01:32:38,820 --> 01:32:39,940 into his opponent's face. 1167 01:32:42,020 --> 01:32:47,380 They loved it. They loved it. Everyone was out there screaming, oh, like they 1168 01:32:47,380 --> 01:32:50,320 had never seen anything like it before because they hadn't. 1169 01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:54,080 It's a hell of a bump for me to take to jump as far as I can. 1170 01:32:54,900 --> 01:32:58,380 And then it just, bam, just like land on my back. 1171 01:32:58,970 --> 01:33:03,810 At the time, he was set in the bar with his moves, with his athleticism. It's an 1172 01:33:03,810 --> 01:33:04,810 incredible spot. 1173 01:33:04,890 --> 01:33:06,190 Not many people can pull it off. 1174 01:33:06,530 --> 01:33:10,790 You don't know when it's coming. You have a field chair in front of your 1175 01:33:11,170 --> 01:33:13,670 You know, you hope you've said enough prayers the night before. 1176 01:33:14,270 --> 01:33:15,910 The Terminator! 1177 01:33:17,210 --> 01:33:18,210 Crazy. 1178 01:33:20,010 --> 01:33:22,670 I mean, obviously, I lived up to the expectations. 1179 01:33:55,440 --> 01:34:02,380 We and Devon had worked with Balls and Axl Rotten and doing all the hardcore 1180 01:34:02,380 --> 01:34:03,380 stuff for years. 1181 01:34:04,060 --> 01:34:06,340 You know, we're like, what are we going to do? What are we going to do that's 1182 01:34:06,340 --> 01:34:09,540 different? What can we do that's really going to shock the people? 1183 01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:13,200 Balls came on over and said, hey! 1184 01:34:13,870 --> 01:34:15,450 Why don't we just light the table on fire? 1185 01:34:15,690 --> 01:34:18,210 And I went, you know what, Balls, that's a great idea. 1186 01:34:18,970 --> 01:34:21,590 What in God's name are they doing? 1187 01:34:24,210 --> 01:34:25,970 Let's get Balls Mahoney up! 1188 01:34:27,370 --> 01:34:30,730 Powerball for the Thug Tech and the fire! 1189 01:34:31,130 --> 01:34:34,650 When we put Balls to that table, that crowd lost their mind. 1190 01:34:39,130 --> 01:34:42,810 It wasn't very safe. 1191 01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:44,580 But it got a hell of a reaction. 1192 01:34:52,700 --> 01:34:55,100 My God, no, no, no! 1193 01:34:57,780 --> 01:34:59,940 Flaming tables suck. 1194 01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:06,940 That was crazy. The first time they set it on fire, I was just like, what? 1195 01:35:10,180 --> 01:35:12,060 There's just so many things that can go wrong. 1196 01:35:13,260 --> 01:35:16,860 You can't predict fire. You have no idea whether it's going to go out, whether 1197 01:35:16,860 --> 01:35:18,820 it's going to get burned, whether it's going to get scorched. 1198 01:35:20,140 --> 01:35:24,800 Watching two human beings put another man through that, you're thinking, you 1199 01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,640 know what, maybe one day I'll have to take that. 1200 01:35:28,020 --> 01:35:31,620 You know, why can't the fans just reject it and say, I don't want to do that? 1201 01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:32,800 But, no, they loved it. 1202 01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:36,940 Balls was just that type of guy where he was game for anything. 1203 01:35:37,480 --> 01:35:40,920 And if a flaming table needed to be done and someone needed to go through it, 1204 01:35:40,980 --> 01:35:42,660 Balls was the first one to raise his hand. 1205 01:35:44,330 --> 01:35:48,610 It wasn't even Paul necessarily asking any of the guys to do it. The guys 1206 01:35:48,610 --> 01:35:52,750 to do it. And it was really, really impressive. And with the Dudleys, you 1207 01:35:52,750 --> 01:35:57,370 team that could work without it. But when they did it, it really meant 1208 01:35:57,370 --> 01:36:02,130 something. We weren't the first people to ever do a flaming table, but I 1209 01:36:02,130 --> 01:36:04,770 the Dudleys made the flaming table really, really cool. 1210 01:36:24,919 --> 01:36:31,240 Chaz and Bigelow through the ring is definitely a top 50 oh -my -God moment 1211 01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:33,660 ECW. Bam! Bam! 1212 01:36:34,220 --> 01:36:35,220 Bigelow! 1213 01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,980 It's Bam Bam Bigelow's hometown. It's Asbury Park, New Jersey. 1214 01:36:40,260 --> 01:36:42,320 He's going to win the World Television Championship. 1215 01:36:43,060 --> 01:36:46,180 As a New Yorker, of course, I'm hated in Jersey, right? 1216 01:36:46,500 --> 01:36:50,940 Bam Bam was the hometown boy. Like, legit grew up there, lived there all 1217 01:36:52,740 --> 01:36:56,960 Throughout the years, many people had come up from underneath the ring. 1218 01:36:57,260 --> 01:36:58,560 What is going on? 1219 01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:02,260 Nobody had ever broken through the ring. 1220 01:37:02,660 --> 01:37:04,840 This is really great. I was on the ring crew. 1221 01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:09,700 Taz and Bam Bam wrestled around, and we had a signal set up. So Taz would stick 1222 01:37:09,700 --> 01:37:13,560 his foot underneath the ring, and we would reach out and tap his foot. That 1223 01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:14,980 everything's okay, we're good to go. 1224 01:37:21,710 --> 01:37:24,250 I just had him in the chokehold, and they went back. 1225 01:37:25,070 --> 01:37:27,950 My back hit the mat first. Bam Bam's on my chest. 1226 01:37:33,130 --> 01:37:37,190 Boom! Crashing through literally six inches from us. 1227 01:37:37,970 --> 01:37:42,910 It disappeared just . It couldn't have been more perfect. They swallowed them 1228 01:37:42,910 --> 01:37:44,370 up, and you couldn't see them. 1229 01:37:46,650 --> 01:37:48,690 I mean, I just can't tell you how much it hurt. 1230 01:37:49,020 --> 01:37:51,340 The pop, the, oh, my God, it was definite. 1231 01:37:51,580 --> 01:37:56,540 And I just was like, yeah, yes, yes! And Bamfitt was like, we did it! No, we 1232 01:37:56,540 --> 01:37:57,760 were just so nervous, you know? 1233 01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:04,040 John Finnegan, the referee, gave the best bell you will ever see of all time 1234 01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:05,040 during that match. 1235 01:38:08,900 --> 01:38:12,540 Look at the crowd right as it happened. 1236 01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,520 Look at that real... 1237 01:38:15,490 --> 01:38:18,410 to something they never saw coming. 1238 01:38:19,250 --> 01:38:23,510 And it was Bam Bam Bigelow pinning a knocked -out Taz in Asbury Park, New 1239 01:38:23,510 --> 01:38:24,510 Jersey. 1240 01:38:28,710 --> 01:38:33,250 Another great thing with Paul, he wanted it to feel as natural as possible, so 1241 01:38:33,250 --> 01:38:34,830 he purposely didn't put them in the main event. 1242 01:38:35,130 --> 01:38:39,750 I was in the main event following that match, so we had to do our main event 1243 01:38:39,750 --> 01:38:44,200 match with one -third of the ring being this giant hole that's just... taped off 1244 01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:45,200 with fleece tape. 1245 01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:49,680 I remember when it was all said and done and the people had cleared out me going 1246 01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,500 up to the ring trying to figure out how the hell they did that. 1247 01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:56,920 Fans always think they know the finish and they know this and they know that 1248 01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:59,540 blah, blah, blah. There's not a person in that building that knew the ring was 1249 01:38:59,540 --> 01:39:00,540 going to have a hole in it. 1250 01:39:00,940 --> 01:39:06,580 It was one hell of a great moment that has been copied by others. 1251 01:39:36,970 --> 01:39:40,650 Having your son tell you he doesn't love you, but he loves another man, that he 1252 01:39:40,650 --> 01:39:44,450 wants that other man to be his father. You know, at that young age, it's like, 1253 01:39:44,490 --> 01:39:48,850 oh. I mean, this has nothing to do with wrestling. It's that we're talking life. 1254 01:39:48,890 --> 01:39:51,990 You don't mess with a man's family. 1255 01:39:52,830 --> 01:39:54,090 No one expected it. 1256 01:39:54,330 --> 01:39:58,810 No one expected a little kid to be in a ring doing an angle. You just don't see 1257 01:39:58,810 --> 01:40:01,130 it coming. And then when you see it, you can't believe it. 1258 01:40:01,730 --> 01:40:03,290 It tugged at any... 1259 01:40:04,500 --> 01:40:08,200 person who was going through a divorce or, you know, when they get split time 1260 01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:12,180 with their son and Sandman played it to the key. 1261 01:40:20,100 --> 01:40:26,620 Here's Raven taking away the Sandman's wife. And now he's in the Sandman's 1262 01:40:26,620 --> 01:40:31,140 head and he's turning his whole family against him. People can relate to that. 1263 01:40:31,180 --> 01:40:32,700 It actually goes on in real life. 1264 01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:37,540 Everybody knows a couple where one parent uses the child as a weapon in the 1265 01:40:37,540 --> 01:40:43,700 divorce, which is the meanest, filthiest, lowest, most despicable thing 1266 01:40:43,700 --> 01:40:44,700 possibly do. 1267 01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:50,140 And so for Raven to do that and not even bat an eye, what a dick. 1268 01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:56,920 The bond between a father and a son can never be broken. 1269 01:40:59,780 --> 01:41:01,020 Until now. 1270 01:41:02,220 --> 01:41:06,200 And then how sympathetic does it make the Sandman? You know, he lost his wife, 1271 01:41:06,260 --> 01:41:09,700 but now he loses his kid, and they're ransoming the kid's love. 1272 01:41:10,060 --> 01:41:11,960 Ah, it's just, it's epic. 1273 01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:16,980 It got you. Like, it was such a great angle, but so, like, taboo. 1274 01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:21,240 Now I know what a father's really supposed to be like. 1275 01:41:22,780 --> 01:41:27,060 That's the kind of intriguing storytelling we would do in ECW, the 1276 01:41:27,060 --> 01:41:29,800 -life stories, very mature. 1277 01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:32,580 very adult -oriented type of stories. 1278 01:41:33,020 --> 01:41:38,240 And if you don't tell a compelling, interesting story, the people aren't 1279 01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:42,640 to be intrigued, you know? And we just told as compelling and interesting a 1280 01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:44,480 story as you could possibly want. 1281 01:41:44,980 --> 01:41:50,220 And storyline for storyline, me and Sandman, I'll put that against any 1282 01:41:50,220 --> 01:41:52,740 in the history of the business. I mean, it was that good. 1283 01:41:53,580 --> 01:41:57,660 Sandman, I've waited two years to get you like this. 1284 01:41:59,630 --> 01:42:00,630 Gotcha. 1285 01:42:12,350 --> 01:42:16,970 It's the very first pay -per -view from ECW. 1286 01:42:17,830 --> 01:42:19,470 Barely legal. 1287 01:42:21,010 --> 01:42:23,950 Taking my personal life out of the equation. 1288 01:42:24,830 --> 01:42:27,330 Getting married. Becoming a father. 1289 01:42:28,740 --> 01:42:31,320 ECW Barely Legal was the greatest day of my life. 1290 01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:48,820 Barely Legal was the first ever live ECW pay -per -view, which was a nerve 1291 01:42:48,820 --> 01:42:49,820 -wracking thing. 1292 01:42:50,970 --> 01:42:54,530 I was in the main event, Sabu and I, and neither of us had any experience 1293 01:42:54,530 --> 01:42:56,690 wrestling on a live pay -per -view at that time. 1294 01:42:57,130 --> 01:43:00,130 Nevertheless, main event where you got to kind of finish on time. 1295 01:43:04,550 --> 01:43:04,910 Paul 1296 01:43:04,910 --> 01:43:13,190 Heyman 1297 01:43:13,190 --> 01:43:14,450 had a lot of pressure on him. 1298 01:43:15,170 --> 01:43:19,630 This was a pay -per -view that if we would have flopped, ECW would have been 1299 01:43:19,630 --> 01:43:24,580 done. All the hard work, everything, all the blood, sweat, and tears that we put 1300 01:43:24,580 --> 01:43:27,320 in to leading up to that pay -per -view would have been gone. 1301 01:43:27,820 --> 01:43:32,700 We would have been that small little indie company that tried to make it in 1302 01:43:32,700 --> 01:43:34,300 big time and failed. 1303 01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:39,500 Tonight in the three -way dance, three men in the same ring at the same time, 1304 01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:41,560 the winner gets a shot at Raven and the gold. 1305 01:43:41,820 --> 01:43:45,740 The co -main event, it was Sabu and Taz, and it was whoever wins the match 1306 01:43:45,740 --> 01:43:46,880 versus me for the title. 1307 01:43:57,740 --> 01:44:00,340 Funk was getting ready for his 15th retirement. 1308 01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:03,080 And now he's got to face the press. 1309 01:44:03,380 --> 01:44:05,640 World heavyweight champion, Raven. 1310 01:44:07,340 --> 01:44:10,160 Well, Terry Funk insists on continuing. 1311 01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:13,240 We expect nothing less. Joey, he's busted bad. 1312 01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:52,500 The championship on Terry Funk that night was the absolute right way to end 1313 01:44:52,500 --> 01:44:57,100 pay -per -view, but also to really embrace someone who was there for quite 1314 01:44:57,100 --> 01:45:01,200 while before ECW started getting popular. He was there when there was 100 1315 01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:05,060 in the crowd and the company ran once every two months. Terry Funk was a 1316 01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:07,440 Everybody clapping, happy. 1317 01:45:07,780 --> 01:45:12,040 I think it's the only time in my life I've cried tears of relief and 1318 01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:18,130 And it was just... So emotional for me. I will never, ever forget Fairly Legal. 1319 01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:28,350 The only 1320 01:45:28,350 --> 01:45:36,550 time 1321 01:45:36,550 --> 01:45:41,130 I actually got queasy calling a match with all the violent and crazy stuff I 1322 01:45:41,130 --> 01:45:42,130 called in ECW. 1323 01:45:42,510 --> 01:45:46,950 was barbed wire match, born to be wired, Terry Funk versus Sabu. 1324 01:45:47,350 --> 01:45:50,870 That kind of match in America at that time was pretty unheard of. 1325 01:45:52,770 --> 01:45:54,990 Terry Funk at that time was 65, 1326 01:45:55,730 --> 01:46:00,950 and he's in there with barbed wire with Sabu, who's the most crazy lunatic 1327 01:46:00,950 --> 01:46:01,950 you've ever met. 1328 01:46:03,050 --> 01:46:06,470 I had probably been in ECW a couple months at that point, and I was in there 1329 01:46:06,470 --> 01:46:09,070 going, what the hell am I doing for a living? 1330 01:46:10,910 --> 01:46:16,480 Sabu whipped into the ball! It was like two guys fighting in Roman days and 1331 01:46:16,480 --> 01:46:17,480 barely alive. 1332 01:46:23,980 --> 01:46:29,500 Sabu goes from one side of the ring to the other, and Terry moves. 1333 01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:35,800 He lands in the barbed wire. His flesh from his arm pulled like six inches. 1334 01:46:36,910 --> 01:46:41,650 There's veins, there's tendons sticking out of his arm. 1335 01:46:42,030 --> 01:46:46,490 Sabu just taped up this massive dash in his bicep. 1336 01:46:47,150 --> 01:46:51,190 And he just wrestling taped it and taped it shut, finished the match. 1337 01:46:51,510 --> 01:46:57,430 That's a MacGyver survivalist thing to do. He didn't even think about it. He's 1338 01:46:57,430 --> 01:46:59,230 going to try to tape that dash closed? 1339 01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:03,420 And then at the end of it, they were just so entwined, they couldn't move. 1340 01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:07,840 They are completely intertwined in barbed wire. We called a pinfall, but 1341 01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:10,180 nobody's shoulders were really on the mat. 1342 01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:16,720 We have a new ECW heavyweight champion of the world! 1343 01:47:16,940 --> 01:47:20,880 They sent all of the ring crew guys down there, and we all had wire cutters. 1344 01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,580 And we're trying to just release. 1345 01:47:24,849 --> 01:47:29,170 Emergency medical technicians in the ring trying to cut these two apart. 1346 01:47:29,430 --> 01:47:34,490 It was work getting them untangled from each other because those barbs on the 1347 01:47:34,490 --> 01:47:39,050 wire, they hold into each other. It was in both of their hairs and all their 1348 01:47:39,050 --> 01:47:40,550 clothes and skin and everything. 1349 01:47:41,430 --> 01:47:44,430 That was the most disturbing thing I've ever seen and I've ever caught. 1350 01:47:44,850 --> 01:47:49,630 Both of those guys have scars and injuries that they're never, ever going 1351 01:47:49,630 --> 01:47:50,630 recuperate from. 1352 01:47:51,050 --> 01:47:52,330 The fans loved it. 1353 01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:53,720 It's a moment in history 1354 01:48:23,950 --> 01:48:27,350 We're going to find out just how extreme ECW can be. 1355 01:48:27,670 --> 01:48:30,110 WWE needed help against WCW. 1356 01:48:30,570 --> 01:48:31,090 I 1357 01:48:31,090 --> 01:48:43,190 guess 1358 01:48:43,190 --> 01:48:47,330 Vince figured, you know, this promotion out of Philadelphia, ECW has some buzz. 1359 01:48:47,970 --> 01:48:52,250 Why not let them on our show? If anything, it'll draw eyeballs to the 1360 01:48:52,390 --> 01:48:53,390 Can't hurt anything. 1361 01:48:54,250 --> 01:48:57,990 Well, this promises to be a little bit different, ladies and gentlemen. We 1362 01:48:57,990 --> 01:48:59,270 know what's going to happen here. 1363 01:48:59,590 --> 01:49:02,310 That was a big deal for us, the invasion back in 1997. 1364 01:49:02,930 --> 01:49:07,730 You just 1365 01:49:07,730 --> 01:49:13,950 knew how good it would be for the company. 1366 01:49:18,220 --> 01:49:21,820 I remember at the end of the night, we all left, and we all lined up, and we 1367 01:49:21,820 --> 01:49:26,000 to pass by Vince, and Paul introduced each and every one of us to Vince. 1368 01:49:26,300 --> 01:49:27,920 It was a very cool night. 1369 01:49:28,180 --> 01:49:31,620 I've never been ashamed of being a professional wrestler, but right now, 1370 01:49:31,620 --> 01:49:34,740 look at this crap in the ring, and when I look at an idiot like you sitting 1371 01:49:34,740 --> 01:49:37,180 right there, I'm like, shut up! Shut up! 1372 01:49:37,460 --> 01:49:42,880 When I look at you, and when I look at this crap, at the UCW system for 1373 01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:45,780 extremely crappy wrestling, I'm ashamed! 1374 01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:59,050 I finally beat Raven after three years. 1375 01:49:59,210 --> 01:50:03,730 Ship him out. My biggest celebration. Lights go off. Here comes Jerry Lawler. 1376 01:50:15,050 --> 01:50:18,210 When Jerry Lawler came to the locker room, I honestly thought that he really 1377 01:50:18,210 --> 01:50:21,670 hate ECW. And probably deep down inside, he probably did and thought it was 1378 01:50:21,670 --> 01:50:22,670 crappy wrestling. 1379 01:50:23,250 --> 01:50:24,630 So this is it, huh? 1380 01:50:24,850 --> 01:50:27,750 This is a big time ECW, huh? 1381 01:50:29,190 --> 01:50:35,270 When you talk about heat, I've never experienced a more hostile crowd. 1382 01:50:37,810 --> 01:50:39,190 They wanted to kill him. 1383 01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:55,560 Vince was giving us a shot to be on national TV to help get ECW over. You go 1384 01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:59,720 down to a bingo hall once a month in Philadelphia, and you put on your little 1385 01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:02,640 charades, and you beat each other into oblivion. 1386 01:51:02,860 --> 01:51:06,020 Shut the hell up! You don't hate ECW. 1387 01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:10,120 We're hardcore and damn proud of it. 1388 01:51:10,420 --> 01:51:14,620 Jerry the King Long is going to get an extreme boot of his royal can. 1389 01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:54,040 In primetime, Brian Lee and Tommy Dreamer will be settled on a swinging 1390 01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:56,460 over a ring filled with tables. 1391 01:51:57,940 --> 01:52:02,140 It was a culmination of the feud with him and Tommy Dreamer where they were 1392 01:52:02,140 --> 01:52:03,140 falling off of stuff. 1393 01:52:03,340 --> 01:52:05,560 Tommy was coming off balconies, through tables. 1394 01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:08,580 I was afraid of heights. I'm a crazy person. 1395 01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:11,780 How do you cure a fear? You book yourself in a scaffold. 1396 01:52:12,700 --> 01:52:14,000 Pinballs do not count. 1397 01:52:14,900 --> 01:52:15,900 No submission. 1398 01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:18,000 No count out. 1399 01:52:19,799 --> 01:52:21,960 knockout and no DQ. 1400 01:52:22,940 --> 01:52:28,880 The object is to knock your guy off of the scaffold and have them crest and 1401 01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:30,160 through all the tables in the room. 1402 01:52:30,860 --> 01:52:35,060 Primetime watch streamer up on the scaffolding. That wasn't a real 1403 01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:41,500 We had the Sandman basically put a platform up on four chains and tied it 1404 01:52:41,500 --> 01:52:42,500 top of the building. 1405 01:52:43,950 --> 01:52:48,170 He also made love on the scaffold the night before, which he told me 1406 01:52:48,170 --> 01:52:49,170 was kind of gross. 1407 01:52:50,370 --> 01:52:53,290 He didn't really stabilize it, and it was held by chains. 1408 01:52:53,750 --> 01:52:56,770 This thing was swinging back and forth. 1409 01:52:57,910 --> 01:53:01,470 That scaffolding doesn't look too sturdy. Both men might go crashing 1410 01:53:01,470 --> 01:53:04,810 table. We went over that side. We were falling on the fan. 1411 01:53:05,570 --> 01:53:08,110 We go this side. We had to try to do it right. 1412 01:53:08,890 --> 01:53:12,550 My favorite part of that whole match, you will see Brian grab something like 1413 01:53:12,550 --> 01:53:15,260 this. That was the electricity to the building. 1414 01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:18,440 So that match could have ended in a double electrocution. 1415 01:53:19,060 --> 01:53:22,000 And Tommy giving it everything he's got. 1416 01:53:38,410 --> 01:53:42,290 you know, 6 '6", 300 -pound guy falling from the top of the ceiling through all 1417 01:53:42,290 --> 01:53:43,290 of these tables. 1418 01:53:43,850 --> 01:53:47,950 It was pretty awesome. You think about it, you're on top of that scaffold and 1419 01:53:47,950 --> 01:53:51,930 you fall through all those tables, but as you're falling through them, those 1420 01:53:51,930 --> 01:53:55,310 other tables that you have fell through are now starting to come down. It's like 1421 01:53:55,310 --> 01:53:56,068 a building. 1422 01:53:56,070 --> 01:53:57,870 Brian Lee was knocked out legitimately. 1423 01:53:58,390 --> 01:54:01,730 He was absolutely out cold and had to be brought to. 1424 01:54:02,140 --> 01:54:05,140 Meanwhile, Tommy's crazy behind it, sitting up there screaming ECW. 1425 01:54:05,420 --> 01:54:08,560 And that's when I really had to look back and go, do I really want to be 1426 01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:11,940 It was absolutely brutal. 1427 01:54:31,870 --> 01:54:37,590 Tommy Dreamer was a young, good -looking, promising young baby face who 1428 01:54:37,590 --> 01:54:38,630 had to look a certain way. 1429 01:54:38,950 --> 01:54:43,350 I mean, with the pompadour hair, he was all glistened up with baby oil. 1430 01:54:43,630 --> 01:54:47,690 Well, on ECW, that wasn't going to work. They couldn't get over my appearance. 1431 01:54:48,010 --> 01:54:49,010 I was a good -looking dude. 1432 01:54:50,270 --> 01:54:56,170 Tommy was supposed to be a good guy, and the hardcore fans in Philly hated Tommy 1433 01:54:56,170 --> 01:54:57,169 for it. 1434 01:54:57,170 --> 01:55:00,890 The Singapore King continues to reign! 1435 01:55:01,290 --> 01:55:04,930 It's Ugly Head here in Eastern Championship Wrestling. 1436 01:55:05,350 --> 01:55:09,230 We were calling the kendo stick of Singapore Kane because at the time in 1437 01:55:09,230 --> 01:55:13,130 news, there was a young man who I believe in Singapore who was going to be 1438 01:55:13,370 --> 01:55:19,550 So Paul, being the genius that he is, decided to have the first ever loser 1439 01:55:19,550 --> 01:55:20,690 Kane match. 1440 01:55:20,950 --> 01:55:25,570 And me being the idiot that I am, I volunteered for it. I'm going to light 1441 01:55:25,570 --> 01:55:29,490 butt up like a Christmas tree, dreamer. The loser of this match. 1442 01:55:30,140 --> 01:55:36,260 Between the Sandman and Tommy Dreamer will receive ten shots with the 1443 01:55:36,260 --> 01:55:38,520 Cane. Oh, my! 1444 01:55:38,780 --> 01:55:40,380 Did you hear that shot? 1445 01:55:41,260 --> 01:55:46,220 DDT! The Sandman spiked Dreamer one, two, and three! Oh, my! 1446 01:55:46,620 --> 01:55:53,500 The idea was that at any moment, Tommy could simply say, I've had enough, 1447 01:55:53,620 --> 01:55:58,200 and kiss woman's feet, and ask for mercy, and he would get it. 1448 01:55:58,750 --> 01:56:03,850 All you have to do is get down on your knees and kick my feet. 1449 01:56:05,430 --> 01:56:11,930 It wasn't a 1450 01:56:11,930 --> 01:56:14,230 gimmicked cane. This was a real cane. 1451 01:56:14,850 --> 01:56:16,170 Oh, I don't want to watch this. 1452 01:56:16,430 --> 01:56:17,430 I can't look. 1453 01:56:19,270 --> 01:56:22,930 First hit, they cheered. The second hit, they cheered. The third hit, they're 1454 01:56:22,930 --> 01:56:23,930 like, oh, wait, he's bleeding. 1455 01:56:24,170 --> 01:56:25,170 Instant welts. 1456 01:56:27,310 --> 01:56:29,250 Look at the welts on Dreamer's back. 1457 01:56:29,690 --> 01:56:31,850 Oh, God, look at the pain etched in his face. 1458 01:56:32,130 --> 01:56:36,390 By the fifth one, they're like, just stay down, dude. And they kept on 1459 01:56:36,390 --> 01:56:40,310 up. Six, there's people crying. There's people turning their heads. 1460 01:56:41,030 --> 01:56:47,250 And the Sandman kept hitting Tommy harder and harder and harder. 1461 01:56:47,670 --> 01:56:52,790 The audience felt Tommy's pain to the point where they were almost begging him 1462 01:56:52,790 --> 01:56:53,870 to stop. 1463 01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:56,760 Thank you, sir. May I have another? 1464 01:56:57,560 --> 01:56:59,140 Tommy, what are you thinking? 1465 01:57:00,540 --> 01:57:05,640 And it was graphic, you know, it was violent. And that was a huge moment 1466 01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:10,940 people, the audience and fans just really, and the wrestlers just ended up 1467 01:57:10,940 --> 01:57:14,540 getting like a gigantic amount of respect for Tommy Dreamer. 1468 01:57:17,380 --> 01:57:22,620 That was the night that Tommy Dreamer went from being a pretty boy to being 1469 01:57:22,620 --> 01:57:23,620 hardcore. 1470 01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:26,480 Before that match, he was not appreciated. 1471 01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:28,140 He was not liked. 1472 01:57:28,700 --> 01:57:32,640 After that match, he was appreciated and he was loved. 1473 01:57:33,900 --> 01:57:38,960 They were the most meaningful shots I think I'd ever seen in a wrestling 1474 01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:57,100 The most extreme team in wrestling today, the Public Enemy! 1475 01:57:59,420 --> 01:58:03,600 That was the first act that Paul created, and it felt silly. 1476 01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:08,780 They were very entertaining, and deep down, they were beloved. 1477 01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:13,720 Every time the Public Enemy came out and danced and threw their hands in the air 1478 01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:16,660 and waved them back and forth, the fans started doing it with them. So I guess 1479 01:58:16,660 --> 01:58:20,820 the next natural progression was to invite some fans to the ring. 1480 01:58:21,550 --> 01:58:26,010 This was the ECW faithful's way of celebrating with them. 1481 01:58:27,150 --> 01:58:32,250 Public enemy inviting their fans in the ring for a victory house party. 1482 01:58:33,170 --> 01:58:37,210 The Junkyard Dog for years had kids come in the ring and dance to them. So I 1483 01:58:37,210 --> 01:58:39,090 guess we figured what could go wrong. 1484 01:58:39,510 --> 01:58:42,890 The stands emptying into the ring. 1485 01:58:43,690 --> 01:58:48,730 I don't know whether that ring had been scientifically tested. I don't know what 1486 01:58:48,730 --> 01:58:49,870 its breaking point was. 1487 01:58:50,890 --> 01:58:53,490 On that particular night, we exceeded it. 1488 01:58:54,010 --> 01:58:59,630 It's a celebration for Flyboy Rocko Rock and Johnny Grunt. 1489 01:59:00,250 --> 01:59:04,450 And a ring is not meant to support that many thousands of pounds. Certainly not 1490 01:59:04,450 --> 01:59:05,249 our ring. 1491 01:59:05,250 --> 01:59:08,070 The ring shifted a little bit, and then boom. 1492 01:59:11,530 --> 01:59:12,610 Oh, my God. 1493 01:59:13,570 --> 01:59:14,710 They broke the ring. 1494 01:59:16,810 --> 01:59:20,850 A ring is very heavy, and it's made up of steel ring posts, and it's made up of 1495 01:59:20,850 --> 01:59:24,510 wood, and there are steel beams inside of it, and somebody could have been very 1496 01:59:24,510 --> 01:59:30,050 hurt. When that ring collapsed, that was definitely a scary moment, but funny 1497 01:59:30,050 --> 01:59:31,050 and entertaining. 1498 01:59:31,230 --> 01:59:33,410 I'm like, what if somebody gets hurt? We're in trouble! 1499 01:59:34,150 --> 01:59:37,490 I thought we were going to be in a whole world of trouble. 1500 01:59:37,850 --> 01:59:40,970 Someone's going to blow a knee out, a fan, and sue everybody. I'm out of a 1501 01:59:41,110 --> 01:59:42,110 I always repent. 1502 01:59:42,140 --> 01:59:45,120 All that screams up is lawsuits, but I don't think we got hit with one for 1503 01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:47,800 I think the fans actually enjoyed falling in the ring with the public 1504 01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:50,040 Retigious society. 1505 01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:54,880 You know, people are, first thing they do is call their lawyer. But in the ECW, 1506 01:59:55,120 --> 01:59:59,200 we made history. Like, people just recover their bumps and bruises and then 1507 01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:02,700 proudly show them off to their friends. We were part of that. We were part of 1508 02:00:02,700 --> 02:00:04,600 that. Oh, I've seen it all now! 1509 02:00:05,380 --> 02:00:08,700 It's like a testament to what ECW was, too. It's just like, whatever. 1510 02:00:09,140 --> 02:00:11,080 Let's have everybody come in the ring and just party together. 1511 02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:12,740 It's one big party all the time. 1512 02:00:14,020 --> 02:00:16,920 This is ECW at its best. 1513 02:00:17,400 --> 02:00:21,660 Our greatest audience participation moment would be all the fans jumping in 1514 02:00:21,660 --> 02:00:22,880 ring to celebrate with Public Enemy. 1515 02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:54,840 Mike Awesome showed up on an app just like he did Monday night on Nitro. But 1516 02:00:54,840 --> 02:01:01,800 Taz, of all people, Taz is here to stand up for ECW, to 1517 02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:08,480 face the ECW World Heavyweight Champion Mike Awesome, who sold his soul 1518 02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:10,820 to WCW. 1519 02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:19,520 Probably one of the, not just the crazy, wild, insane moment in ECW, but in my 1520 02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:26,220 personal career, my personal life, was when I fought Mike Awesome for the 1521 02:01:26,220 --> 02:01:27,220 ECW championship. 1522 02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:31,320 Mike was a really cool guy, but he got an offer to go to WCW. 1523 02:01:32,020 --> 02:01:36,660 That was a 1524 02:01:36,660 --> 02:01:45,040 time 1525 02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:46,040 where financially, 1526 02:01:46,490 --> 02:01:50,070 You know, paychecks weren't always on time. Checks had bounced. There was 1527 02:01:50,070 --> 02:01:52,390 financial tension. Where is the future of the company going? 1528 02:01:52,790 --> 02:01:59,130 And I believe he was offered a $100 ,000 bonus to 1529 02:01:59,130 --> 02:02:05,030 walk out of ECW, and the plan was that he was going to show up on WCW and throw 1530 02:02:05,030 --> 02:02:06,070 the championship down. 1531 02:02:07,470 --> 02:02:14,370 They had federal marshals go to Nitro and stop that act from 1532 02:02:14,370 --> 02:02:15,690 happening because it was... 1533 02:02:16,630 --> 02:02:20,570 possession of ECW. I mean, it was a heavy, heavy deal. 1534 02:02:20,950 --> 02:02:27,030 My flip phone rang, and it was Bruce Pritchett, who was a front office guy in 1535 02:02:27,030 --> 02:02:27,849 the WWE. 1536 02:02:27,850 --> 02:02:32,350 He said, well, you could help, and Vince thinks you're the perfect guy, and so 1537 02:02:32,350 --> 02:02:33,350 does Paul. 1538 02:02:33,490 --> 02:02:37,590 Paul, we need a favor. I go, no, here you are. I just signed this big contract 1539 02:02:37,590 --> 02:02:38,590 with the WWE. 1540 02:02:39,010 --> 02:02:42,250 I'm in the company a couple months. What am I going to say? No, I'm not doing a 1541 02:02:42,250 --> 02:02:46,110 favor. You know, I mean, really. At the time, what none of us knew was that 1542 02:02:46,110 --> 02:02:52,690 Vince McMahon had invested $500 ,000 into ECW, 1543 02:02:52,750 --> 02:02:54,990 had a vested interest in seeing it survive. 1544 02:02:55,850 --> 02:02:59,510 So Paul called in a favor and asked for tax. 1545 02:02:59,890 --> 02:03:02,970 I fly to Indy. Me and Tommy get together this morning. We got to go to this 1546 02:03:02,970 --> 02:03:05,650 hotel. I go, bro, the show's about to start in 10 minutes. I go, where's Mike 1547 02:03:05,650 --> 02:03:06,650 Lawson? 1548 02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:09,980 Paul didn't want him in the locker room. We had to meet him in a hotel. 1549 02:03:10,300 --> 02:03:14,180 We walked into this room, and there's Mike Lawson with some other guy in a 1550 02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:17,740 and then there's this other guy in a suit that I recognized, and it was the 1551 02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:22,300 Doug Dillinger, who was the head of security for WCW. I'm like, oh, I see 1552 02:03:22,300 --> 02:03:28,940 up. We had armed people there because they thought we were probably going to 1553 02:03:28,940 --> 02:03:29,940 to kill Mike. 1554 02:03:30,100 --> 02:03:32,940 We sit down. I looked at Mike. He looked at me. He shook hands. I said, how you 1555 02:03:32,940 --> 02:03:33,940 doing? I go, how you doing? 1556 02:03:33,980 --> 02:03:34,909 He goes. 1557 02:03:34,910 --> 02:03:37,230 He goes, listen, bro, I don't want to be here right now. 1558 02:03:37,550 --> 02:03:38,730 I said, neither do I. 1559 02:03:39,370 --> 02:03:44,110 Mike Awesome and WCW agreed that he would lose the championship. 1560 02:03:44,610 --> 02:03:48,350 It was pretty cool to have Taz come back after what he'd done for the company 1561 02:03:48,350 --> 02:03:53,370 and gone away to come back on a surprise basis, take the title and kind of make 1562 02:03:53,370 --> 02:03:54,730 things right. It was good. 1563 02:03:54,950 --> 02:03:56,090 The match was simple. 1564 02:04:19,970 --> 02:04:24,110 All leading up to that and having federal marshals and the way it worked 1565 02:04:24,170 --> 02:04:25,750 again, that ECW magic. 1566 02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:30,680 He left the way he came in. He went over the guardrail, and he went out the door 1567 02:04:30,680 --> 02:04:34,980 with WCW security, and he got dressed back at the hotel, and that was the end 1568 02:04:34,980 --> 02:04:37,260 Mike Awesome in ECW. 1569 02:04:37,680 --> 02:04:42,940 We've got a new ECW World Heavyweight Champion, and it's Ted! 1570 02:04:43,440 --> 02:04:50,000 A WCW -contracted wrestler lost the ECW World Heavyweight Championship 1571 02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:55,240 to a WWE -contracted wrestler in an ECW ring. 1572 02:04:55,640 --> 02:04:57,180 Crazy. I knew it then it was crazy. 1573 02:05:03,680 --> 02:05:04,200 It 1574 02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:13,060 was 1575 02:05:13,060 --> 02:05:14,060 beyond chaos. 1576 02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:17,600 It was just so unsettling. 1577 02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:19,320 People got up and walked out. 1578 02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:23,640 The only time I think ECW crossed the line. 1579 02:05:25,319 --> 02:05:31,000 Raven crucifying the Sandman was a night I won't forget because it's probably 1580 02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:35,580 the only night in ECW history where we ever had to apologize for what we did. 1581 02:05:39,680 --> 02:05:43,320 I thought, what can I do to really make a statement? 1582 02:05:44,100 --> 02:05:50,280 I thought, man, what if I crucify him? But I feel your pain, and I feast on it. 1583 02:05:50,460 --> 02:05:52,380 Raven's always saying, feel my pain. 1584 02:05:52,890 --> 02:05:55,070 that I'm a martyr for society's dysfunction. 1585 02:05:55,630 --> 02:06:00,810 Well, I wanted Sandman to feel my pain, so I'm going to crucify him and make him 1586 02:06:00,810 --> 02:06:02,430 a martyr for society's dysfunction. 1587 02:06:02,910 --> 02:06:04,810 Oh, we have been waiting to see this. 1588 02:06:06,130 --> 02:06:07,130 It's Raven! 1589 02:06:07,330 --> 02:06:08,330 It's Raven! 1590 02:06:09,530 --> 02:06:11,590 Oh, my God. 1591 02:06:14,610 --> 02:06:18,290 Sandman was a carpenter, so he actually built that crucifix. 1592 02:06:18,530 --> 02:06:20,890 All of a sudden, I remember... 1593 02:06:22,879 --> 02:06:29,460 They picked up the cross with Sandman on it, and this feeling 1594 02:06:29,460 --> 02:06:31,800 that I got, my body heated up. 1595 02:06:32,260 --> 02:06:37,020 What in God's name are they doing? It was like, this is so wrong. 1596 02:06:37,740 --> 02:06:39,740 This is so wrong. 1597 02:06:42,980 --> 02:06:49,680 There's dead, silent anger from what I believe was a predominantly Catholic 1598 02:06:49,680 --> 02:06:52,990 audience. in blue -collar South Philadelphia. 1599 02:06:53,670 --> 02:07:00,510 There was a groan in the ECW arena. The people were just like, that was just 1600 02:07:00,510 --> 02:07:01,510 a little nudge. 1601 02:07:06,030 --> 02:07:11,510 It made me mad, very mad. 1602 02:07:11,870 --> 02:07:18,330 We had a guest backstage, and that person was Kurt Angle. And Kurt Angle 1603 02:07:18,330 --> 02:07:19,330 nuts. 1604 02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:25,520 Here he is, first ECW show, and you think about getting involved, and there 1605 02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:30,320 are, crucifying a human being in front of a practicing Catholic. 1606 02:07:31,020 --> 02:07:32,240 Oh, my God. 1607 02:07:33,620 --> 02:07:37,660 Go ECW. He said, I don't ever want to see you people again. I'm leaving. 1608 02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:45,280 So Paul immediately goes to the back, and Raven comes back out and apologizes. 1609 02:07:45,280 --> 02:07:47,920 hope you show Raven's apology, because it is the least. 1610 02:07:48,570 --> 02:07:53,550 heartfelt apology ever. It's like, eh, I did it. Sorry. Bye. And apparently I've 1611 02:07:53,550 --> 02:07:55,370 offended quite a few people in the audience. 1612 02:07:55,810 --> 02:07:59,290 And so for the people who I deeply offended, I apologize. 1613 02:08:00,270 --> 02:08:04,310 Kurt Angle wouldn't have been there and nobody would have said a thing. And I 1614 02:08:04,310 --> 02:08:05,890 wouldn't have had to go out and apologize later. 1615 02:08:06,110 --> 02:08:10,210 And the most insincere, sincere apology ever. That's probably the only time we 1616 02:08:10,210 --> 02:08:13,130 really offended people to a level which I had never seen. 1617 02:08:13,470 --> 02:08:16,930 Hell of a visual to see the Sandman crucified on that cross, though. 1618 02:08:32,200 --> 02:08:37,780 The NWA was on its last leg, and they're having this big tournament to announce 1619 02:08:37,780 --> 02:08:39,520 the new NWA champion. 1620 02:08:40,240 --> 02:08:44,480 This title was at one time the richest prize in all of professional wrestling. 1621 02:08:45,080 --> 02:08:47,240 It is now being resurrected here. 1622 02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:53,300 Shane Douglas has captured the National Wrestling Alliance World Heavyweight 1623 02:08:53,300 --> 02:08:54,300 Championship! 1624 02:08:54,520 --> 02:08:59,000 Shane Douglas had signed contracts to become the NWA champion and go defend 1625 02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:00,960 title all over the country and all over the world. 1626 02:09:04,630 --> 02:09:05,630 Thank you. 1627 02:09:37,290 --> 02:09:38,290 This is it tonight, Daddy. 1628 02:09:42,790 --> 02:09:43,890 God, that's beautiful. 1629 02:09:46,490 --> 02:09:48,030 And Rick Steamboat. 1630 02:09:48,550 --> 02:09:53,790 And they can all kiss my ass. 1631 02:09:54,750 --> 02:09:56,750 What in the hell is he doing? 1632 02:09:57,490 --> 02:10:00,470 And when he threw it down, it was like, whoa. 1633 02:10:03,470 --> 02:10:06,850 I didn't know that was going to happen. I don't think most of us backstage knew 1634 02:10:06,850 --> 02:10:07,850 that was going to happen. 1635 02:10:08,030 --> 02:10:13,610 And when he threw down that title and picked up the Eastern Championship 1636 02:10:13,610 --> 02:10:15,110 Wrestling title. 1637 02:10:15,470 --> 02:10:22,190 The new ECW Heavyweight Champion of the 1638 02:10:22,190 --> 02:10:23,190 World! 1639 02:10:24,350 --> 02:10:25,390 I was shocked. 1640 02:10:25,890 --> 02:10:29,750 It was a genuine, oh my God, moment. 1641 02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:43,160 I want to say my favorite part of that is you can see the NWA president in the 1642 02:10:43,160 --> 02:10:48,120 corner, and he's literally biting his nails as it's going down because he's 1643 02:10:48,120 --> 02:10:49,620 witnessing this happening. 1644 02:10:50,180 --> 02:10:54,100 They screwed him over. The representatives from NWA had no idea 1645 02:10:54,100 --> 02:10:54,639 to happen. 1646 02:10:54,640 --> 02:10:59,340 We have set out to change the face of professional wrestling! 1647 02:11:01,020 --> 02:11:02,420 It was... 1648 02:11:03,180 --> 02:11:07,480 It was beyond groundbreaking. It created a lot of buzz. The group of people who 1649 02:11:07,480 --> 02:11:12,300 came to support us became even more dedicated because of that act of 1650 02:11:12,680 --> 02:11:15,500 That put us on the map of, oof, we're different. 1651 02:11:15,940 --> 02:11:18,900 So tonight, let the new era begin. 1652 02:11:19,540 --> 02:11:23,080 The era of the ECW. 1653 02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:28,160 The course of professional wrestling history has been altered permanently. 1654 02:12:22,250 --> 02:12:27,850 You talk about ECW called, you know, hardcore wrestling, blood, guts. That 1655 02:12:27,850 --> 02:12:29,230 such soap opera stuff. 1656 02:12:29,710 --> 02:12:34,490 And the fact that the fans bit into it was, oof, it was cool. 1657 02:12:42,090 --> 02:12:47,610 At that time, you know, two hot chicks kissing was, you know, was a big deal. 1658 02:12:47,730 --> 02:12:50,730 And they went for it, too. Like, it wasn't just a, it was like a makeout 1659 02:12:50,730 --> 02:12:51,730 session. 1660 02:12:55,820 --> 02:12:59,580 I'm a 23 -year -old kid, two hot women in the middle of the ring. 1661 02:12:59,920 --> 02:13:03,860 I'm just as intrigued as probably everybody in that ECW arena. 1662 02:13:04,420 --> 02:13:06,020 What do you have to say, Dreamer? 1663 02:13:07,500 --> 02:13:09,840 I'll take them both. I'm hardcore. 1664 02:13:15,020 --> 02:13:17,920 As far as I was concerned, Dreamer was my hero from that point on. 1665 02:13:21,880 --> 02:13:23,280 Boy, at the time... 1666 02:13:24,810 --> 02:13:30,890 It was unheard of, and it was not met with a warm response by the television 1667 02:13:30,890 --> 02:13:31,990 stations we were on. 1668 02:13:32,310 --> 02:13:36,050 Girl on Girl Kissings was deemed too extreme for television. 1669 02:13:36,370 --> 02:13:40,470 We didn't even actually show the kiss. The kiss happened in the arena. 1670 02:13:40,750 --> 02:13:47,390 We actually stopped the video and froze before Beulah and Kimona 1671 02:13:47,390 --> 02:13:50,010 kissed and just let the audio run. 1672 02:13:50,250 --> 02:13:52,890 And that was still so shocking. 1673 02:13:53,470 --> 02:13:57,990 that we got thrown off most of the television stations that we were on. 1674 02:13:59,430 --> 02:14:03,490 ECW was the precursor to the Attitude Era, no doubt about it, and the fact 1675 02:14:03,490 --> 02:14:06,230 they just did so many things that you've never seen before. 1676 02:14:07,590 --> 02:14:09,350 ECW always put the envelope. 1677 02:14:09,570 --> 02:14:12,870 They did things that other wrestling companies would not do. 1678 02:14:13,630 --> 02:14:15,850 That's what made ECW so different. 1679 02:14:16,110 --> 02:14:20,630 That was just another one of those moments that kind of set us apart from 1680 02:14:20,630 --> 02:14:21,630 everybody else. 1681 02:14:22,190 --> 02:14:27,730 Everything leading up to the payoff was just tremendous, mind -bogglingly 1682 02:14:27,730 --> 02:14:28,730 tremendous. 1683 02:14:34,310 --> 02:14:35,850 Oh, my God! 1684 02:14:44,950 --> 02:14:50,190 We encouraged audience participation, and we may have encouraged it a little 1685 02:14:50,190 --> 02:14:55,300 much. Terry Funk versus Captain Jack for the first time in history. This one 1686 02:14:55,300 --> 02:14:56,300 ought to be a clash. 1687 02:14:56,380 --> 02:15:02,800 Terry and I were in our first singles match in ECW, which was a pretty big 1688 02:15:03,000 --> 02:15:07,580 The fans here in the ECW arena are being treated to what is truly a great night 1689 02:15:07,580 --> 02:15:08,339 of wrestling. 1690 02:15:08,340 --> 02:15:11,920 It ended by disqualification when the public enemy hit the ring. 1691 02:15:12,600 --> 02:15:15,280 The public enemy is assaulting Terry Funk. 1692 02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:20,800 I vividly remember Terry saying to me, ask them for a chair. 1693 02:15:21,080 --> 02:15:23,280 And I said to the audience, give me a chair. 1694 02:15:46,890 --> 02:15:50,770 I'm not exaggerating when I say it was raining chairs. 1695 02:15:54,050 --> 02:15:57,610 I remember seeing it backstage. I'm like, oh boy, this is not good. 1696 02:15:57,810 --> 02:16:01,450 You hear the announcer screaming, please stop throwing chairs into the rain. 1697 02:16:01,930 --> 02:16:04,290 Please do not throw chairs into the rain. 1698 02:16:04,550 --> 02:16:10,950 The funker asks for a chair and he gets cold cocked and he just goes and falls 1699 02:16:10,950 --> 02:16:11,950 down. 1700 02:16:13,440 --> 02:16:17,760 Terry dropped before I did. I think I gave the bang -bang, and then I got hit, 1701 02:16:17,880 --> 02:16:23,020 and then I was gone, and then it was just the public enemy alone with 300 1702 02:16:23,020 --> 02:16:28,340 chairs. It's one of the most iconic moments in ECW history, and it's one of 1703 02:16:28,340 --> 02:16:30,080 most dangerous things I've ever seen. 1704 02:16:30,400 --> 02:16:34,840 It kind of was a representation of what ECW was. 1705 02:16:35,040 --> 02:16:37,740 Fan interaction, insanity. 1706 02:16:39,619 --> 02:16:44,240 Unpredictability. All these adjectives fit it. It was a spectacle like nothing 1707 02:16:44,240 --> 02:16:45,240 had ever seen before. 1708 02:16:45,400 --> 02:16:47,840 It's a moment that will never be replicated. 1709 02:16:48,139 --> 02:16:49,139 Nor should it be. 1710 02:16:50,639 --> 02:16:51,160 I'd 1711 02:16:51,160 --> 02:16:59,280 like 1712 02:16:59,280 --> 02:17:01,580 to take this moment to thank you for watching ECW. 1713 02:18:35,629 --> 02:18:36,629 ... ... ... 145316

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