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In the Criminal Justice System,
the people are represented
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by two separate,
yet equally important, groups.
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The Police, who investigate crime
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and the Crown Prosecutors,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Stab wound. It's fresh. She's lost
a lot of blood already, though.
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We got here a couple of minutes ago.
It's OK, I'll take over.
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Right, got it?
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Are you OK?
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Who called it in?
A PCSO called Lenny.
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He's giving his statement
to a uniform now.
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Tell him I wanna see him
once he's done. All right.
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SOCOs are on their way.
What do we know about her?
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Sally Carlow, 24 years old.
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She was carrying some sweets
from the stalls here.
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Purse has got 40 quid in it.
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And for that, she gets stabbed
in broad daylight.
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What's happening? We're going
to put her in the ambulance now.
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And how's she doing?
Well, she was already gone
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but I'm going to pronounce it
at the hospital.
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We didn't see her get knifed,
we just saw this guy running away.
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What can you tell me about him? It
was at a distance, he was running.
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Yep. I mean anything
specific...would be helpful.
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He had a black leather jacket.
OK.
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Are you blind? It was blue.
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I ain't blind. I'm going out
with you, aren't I?
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Was it black or blue?
I'd say it was blue.
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It had like a red football shirt
underneath.
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OK. Did you see what team?
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Arsenal.
Liverpool.
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He rode away
on a red Piaggio scooter.
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Beautiful.
Right, and this beautiful scooter,
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did you notice the registration?
No.
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But I can tell you
it was a Typhoon 50cc. Rosso.
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What, you noticed all that
but you didn't see the reg?
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Anything else?
A white helmet.
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He had the green and red stripes,
like our flag.
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It was totally sexy.
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A single penetration.
It was a three inch blade.
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The bruising suggests it went
right up to the hilt
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but there are no clear
identification markings.
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So bag snatch, gone wrong.
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Could all be a mistake.
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No. Putting your pants on
back to front is a mistake, Joe.
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Is that the only wound? Yes, it went
straight through the femoral artery.
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There's nothing
anybody could have done.
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There's so little tearing.
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Angle of entry suggests the attacker
may have been 5'4", 5'5".
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So our killer could have been
a woman?
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Or even a kid.
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Here's what I don't get.
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How can that many witnesses
see so many different things?
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Well, cos it all happens
so fast, doesn't it?
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Don't forget, it takes a while
to sink in.
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Then your suspect goes missing
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and we're left talking
to the Italian tourist board.
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Anyway, you need 18, 19, 20,
then you're round the clock.
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CCTV is on its way in. I'll track
the red scooter across London.
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At least as far as I can.
Thank you, Kayla.
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Don't forget full reg
is the priority.
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Come on.
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Not bad.
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Oh, hang on. Ooh.
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It's the new Gov.
Turn that up, please.
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'The courage shown by the families
affected by knife crime
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should be an inspiration to us all.'
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When did she start?
Monday.
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We only cleared out the last
of Wes' personal effects yesterday.
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'Is knife crime your priority,
Detective Inspector Flynn?
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Yes. Absolutely.
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So do you have any comment
on today s Southwark stabbing?
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It's all over Twitter.
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Stabbing less than an hour ago.
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No arrests. (STAMMERS)
I don't know the details...'
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Ouch. There you go.
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Bitten by her own sound bite.
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She' s being a plonk
and she knows it.
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Plonk? You mean plonker.
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No, DS Hawkins, he means plonk.
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Person of Little Or No Knowledge.
It's what his generation
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called us Doris'
before they realised
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that we had brains as well as tits.
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Well, I was just saying - Yeah,
I know exactly what you were saying.
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And fighting knife crime, that's
not just a sound bite, not for me.
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Joe, could you nip downstairs
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and get the rest
of the eyewitness reports?
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Oh, and when you've finished
your game of darts,
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there' s the murder of a young woman
to solve.
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I like her.
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I am not having her accuse me
of being a dinosaur.
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I don't know if it's me you need
to be telling, Ron. (PHONE RINGS)
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I'm not gonna get another chance
to make a first impression, am I?
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Hey, Kayla, what you got?
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Yeah. All right, thanks.
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Owner of the scooter.
Chadwicke estate.
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Lovely.
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Yeah...I own a red Piaggio.
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Or at least I did till about
eight o'clock this morning.
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Right. What happened then?
I saw it had been nicked.
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Every night I chain it
to the railings over there.
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Did you report it?
Why would I?
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I used to report graffiti and
vandalism to you people all the time
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and I got nothing back. Why are you
so interested in my scooter now?
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Because it was used during
a fatal stabbing this morning.
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How tall are you, Mr King?
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What has that got to do
with anything?
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What, because I'm short,
I'm more suspicious?
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Well, tell you what, in this
particular investigation, yeah.
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Whoever you're looking for,
it isn't me.
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Somebody stole my scooter
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and then dumped it
when they were done with it.
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So you know where it is?
Yeah.
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And where is it, Mr King?
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It' s on the other side
of the estate.
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No, not going to get anything
off this now, Ron.
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Not even the VIN details.
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No. In fact, Mr King, how do you know
for sure that it' s your scooter?
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Cos it was my crash helmet
that was lying next to it.
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He works the morning shift
at a local cafe.
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They've confirmed he was there.
And how's your evidence?
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Well, it's mainly intact.
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I've asked Lilly
to come and do us a favour
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and she said yes,
she'll take some prints from that.
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OK. Any news, you let me know.
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Just think of me as a third man
in the team.
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Is that a problem?
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No. Not at all.
Good.
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I like to keep my hands dirty.
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(KNOCK AT THE DOOR) We've tracked
down Sally's next of kin.
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Her dad Albert is downstairs.
And she has a son, Jack.
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I need answers.
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We both do.
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Yeah, of course, Mr Carlow,
we'll do our best to provide them.
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How long had your daughter
been in London?
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Nearly two years. She came
down here to teach art to kids.
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This is probably just a random event
but I have to ask you
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if you know of anyone who would
want to hurt Sally or bear a grudge?
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No. Jack's her world, she didn't
have much time for anyone
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other than him
and her kids at school.
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Still, if we could get a list
of all of her friends in the area,
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might be helpful.
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Someone must have seen something.
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We've got lots
of eyewitness statements.
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We're working on it.
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I need to know you'll get him.
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Whoever did this.
We will.
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How do I tell him
we've lost his mother?
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Hello, Jack.
Hello.
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My name's Ronnie.
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Pleased to meet you.
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And...I'm a policeman...but I don't
wear a uniform.
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Anyway, I've been around
a long time, you know,
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a long, long time,
a bit like a dinosaur.
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Do I look old?
(LAUGHS) Yeah.
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And, erm...there are loads of things
I don't understand in this world,
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you know, and one of those things
is that sometimes
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bad things happen to good people.
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I can't explain it.
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But today, something very sad
has happened.
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So the owner's prints
are all over it as you'd expect.
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I was worried the fire damage would
leave us with nothing else but...
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on the very edge of the rim,
there is one partial thumb print.
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Oh. Any matches?
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It's difficult to be certain
with the partial
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but I'll email you over what I have.
Thanks for coming in, Lil.
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No problem, Ron. For you, anything.
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It's a struggle with a partial print
here, Ron.
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Here we go.
Bobbi Washington, 15 years of age.
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Minor offences, including
a bit of shoplifting and theft.
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Latest was for carrying a knife.
Yeah, got it.
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He's registered to an address
on Chadwicke estate.
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That will explain why he dumped the
scooter close to where he found it.
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It's a big area, though.
A lot of ways in and out.
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We could lose him easy.
We should probably call for backup.
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On a Sunday, West Ham and Arsenal
both at home? You're having a laugh.
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No, no. I promised that little boy
last night
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that I would whoever killed his mum,
and I'm not hanging around
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now we know where this boy lives.
All right, let's do it, then.
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I'll tell the gov. Whoa, whoa.
Wait till we've got something, Joe.
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She said any news, let her know.
I know, but I don't want her
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breathing down our necks
every step of the way.
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No, you and I, let's check this out.
All right.
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Oi! Do you wanna stop banging?
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What?!
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Bobbi Washington live here?
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Might do. Well, we need
to ask him a few questions.
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What do you lot need to ask
little Bobbi about?
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Who is it, babe?
Jakes, innit.
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Wanna speak to your boy.
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We ain't seen him all
morning so leave us alone.
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You hearing me?
Yeah, I'm hearing you,
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but we're still gonna need
to ask him a few questions.
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You ain't going nowhere
without a warrant.
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Joe!
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Joe!
Out the way.
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Go, go, go. Go on, Joe.
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(BREATHES HEAVILY)
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I didn't see which way he went.
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Don't you dare say I told you so.
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How the hell did a 15-year-old
kid get past you in the first place?
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He just did. I mean, we're not happy
about it but it is what it is.
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Sorry. And I told you to call me
the minute you had something.
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You know, with all due respect, gov,
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we don't really need you
looking over our shoulder.
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Now, if you will excuse me, I've
got a family I need to interview.
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Police.
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Did he talk to DI Leyton like that?
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To be fair,
he just wants the kid caught.
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So do I.
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Bobbi does his own thing. We
have no control over him any more.
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Right, and that's Bobbi
in the photo, yeah?
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Yep.
And who's the girl?
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Well, you know what, we can wait
all day for an answer, no problem.
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Joe, bung the kettle on,
we're clearly staying.
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Zana. His big mouth sister.
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What? As soon as we answer
their dumb questions,
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the sooner they can piss off.
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That's my girl.
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What do you care?
You don't see her no more.
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And where is she?
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Where is she?
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She lives in Tooting
with her boyfriend.
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I wish I had seen him.
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Knock some sense
into his thick skull.
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Why do you say that? Bobbi was
a good kid before Warren come along.
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He still could be.
Hmm.
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Well, if we can speak to him, Zana,
we might be able to help with that.
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And Warren,
he's your mum's boyfriend, yeah?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, we've met. He's a real charmer.
He gets Bobbi to steal for him
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so he and mum can stay at home
and get wasted.
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You know, Zana, this is a little
more serious than just petty theft.
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We want to speak to Bobbi
about a stabbing.
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A woman was killed during a mugging.
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Yeah, and what did Bobbi do? He is
the only person we're looking for.
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So you see why we need to find him.
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Where have you been?
238
00:13:41,886 --> 00:13:44,246
Jamal, I needed the car for work.
239
00:13:45,446 --> 00:13:48,046
I went to Liverpool Street.
Why did you go there?
240
00:13:49,406 --> 00:13:52,486
Yeah, Jamal. Why did you go there?
241
00:13:54,206 --> 00:13:56,366
I was doing your brother a favour.
242
00:13:59,606 --> 00:14:01,886
He's got family in Roydon
243
00:14:01,886 --> 00:14:04,766
and the next train leaves in about
ten minutes so look lively.
244
00:14:04,766 --> 00:14:07,806
Split them up, Joe. Two up, two down.
You two, straight across.
245
00:14:09,326 --> 00:14:12,406
Right. That's a needle in a haystack
there, isn't it?
246
00:14:16,166 --> 00:14:18,366
No chance.
Right there.
247
00:14:18,366 --> 00:14:20,566
Where?
Middle seat on the bench.
248
00:14:20,566 --> 00:14:22,326
Oh, yeah, yeah.
249
00:14:22,326 --> 00:14:24,166
Right, got him.
250
00:14:24,166 --> 00:14:28,166
OK, guys, he is opposite
platform nine and ten.
251
00:14:28,166 --> 00:14:30,166
So that's platform nine and ten.
252
00:14:30,166 --> 00:14:32,086
OK, Joe's onto it.
253
00:14:33,766 --> 00:14:36,966
Suspect's on the move...on foot,
headed towards the main exit.
254
00:14:36,966 --> 00:14:38,766
Police! Out the way.
255
00:14:39,686 --> 00:14:41,526
Escalator, at the top.
256
00:14:50,606 --> 00:14:52,846
Not this time, Bobbi, son.
Come with me.
257
00:14:55,006 --> 00:14:57,286
Nobody frisks me,
you you know what I'm saying?
258
00:14:57,286 --> 00:14:59,006
Do me a favour, Bobbi,
play the game.
259
00:14:59,006 --> 00:15:01,206
Yeah, you just want to
cop a quick feel, innit?
260
00:15:01,206 --> 00:15:03,086
Especially you, grandad.
Oh, really?
261
00:15:03,086 --> 00:15:06,046
We just want to see if you're
carrying anything, Bobbi. Yeah?
262
00:15:06,046 --> 00:15:08,966
No feds are gonna violate my
personal space without my say so.
263
00:15:08,966 --> 00:15:11,726
I hear tough-guy gangster
but I'm seeing silly little boy.
264
00:15:11,726 --> 00:15:14,526
Shut up, old man! Is that all?
That's your best shot, is it?
265
00:15:14,526 --> 00:15:16,526
Why you giving me so much grief?
Who died?
266
00:15:16,526 --> 00:15:20,406
Hey. Don't say or do
anything stupid, Bobbi.
267
00:15:20,406 --> 00:15:23,766
We are going to search you
and then we are going to arrest you.
268
00:15:23,766 --> 00:15:25,646
It's not going to end any other way.
269
00:15:25,646 --> 00:15:27,486
Screw you.
Turn around.
270
00:15:28,126 --> 00:15:31,566
We are looking for a murder weapon so
forgive us for not taking any risks.
271
00:15:31,566 --> 00:15:33,326
Just let us search you, son.
272
00:15:33,326 --> 00:15:35,526
Is this what you want to see?
273
00:15:35,526 --> 00:15:37,406
I told you, I ain't carrying.
274
00:15:41,846 --> 00:15:44,886
I don't know no Sally.
Of course you don't know Sally.
275
00:15:44,886 --> 00:15:47,166
You chose her at random
to steal her purse
276
00:15:47,166 --> 00:15:50,086
and when she fought back,
you panicked and you stabbed her.
277
00:15:50,086 --> 00:15:52,166
I don't panic.
278
00:15:52,166 --> 00:15:55,446
And I didn't stab no-one.
Well, you know what, son?
279
00:15:57,286 --> 00:15:59,766
Sally...is dead.
280
00:16:00,926 --> 00:16:04,086
She leaves behind a six-year-old son
281
00:16:04,086 --> 00:16:07,046
who's got to deal with that loss
for the rest of his life.
282
00:16:07,046 --> 00:16:11,846
Now, please, don't give us any more
pain, just admit what you've done.
283
00:16:11,846 --> 00:16:14,286
My client doesn't
have to admit to anything.
284
00:16:15,766 --> 00:16:19,246
Bobbi...come on, son.
What do you say?
285
00:16:24,766 --> 00:16:27,046
You know how old people
smell of biscuits?
286
00:16:29,526 --> 00:16:31,486
Well, that's you.
287
00:16:33,046 --> 00:16:34,886
You smell old.
288
00:16:34,886 --> 00:16:39,406
Bobbi...we have a print
on the crash helmet.
289
00:16:40,726 --> 00:16:43,726
It's not going to be long
before we have you on CCTV, as well.
290
00:16:43,726 --> 00:16:47,446
Well, you don't have the footage
yet. And about that print...
291
00:16:47,446 --> 00:16:50,286
Contaminated? How?
292
00:16:50,286 --> 00:16:52,046
Talk to your forensic team.
293
00:16:52,046 --> 00:16:56,086
Something about smoke damage
and clarity of image.
294
00:16:57,726 --> 00:17:01,246
This is not a shoplifter who needs
a slap on the wrist, Namita.
295
00:17:01,246 --> 00:17:04,246
He's under arrest for murder.
An illegal arrest, by the way.
296
00:17:04,246 --> 00:17:06,006
You are kidding?
297
00:17:06,006 --> 00:17:08,406
He ran away from us twice,
when we cornered him.
298
00:17:08,406 --> 00:17:11,086
Now you're going to try and get him
off on a technicality?
299
00:17:11,086 --> 00:17:14,486
The Police and Criminal Evidence Act
is not a technicality, detective.
300
00:17:14,486 --> 00:17:17,046
What does she mean?
What happened? Nothing happened.
301
00:17:17,046 --> 00:17:18,926
This is just a tactic.
Pure and simple.
302
00:17:18,926 --> 00:17:21,966
PACE is there to stop you taking
advantage of vulnerable people
303
00:17:21,966 --> 00:17:25,126
Vulnerable? This is a boy who
stabbed someone in broad daylight.
304
00:17:25,126 --> 00:17:28,286
Who will do anything you ask.
It was a public place and he dropped
305
00:17:28,286 --> 00:17:31,246
his trousers because you bullied
him. We were making an arrest.
306
00:17:31,246 --> 00:17:34,446
This would be funny if it wasn't so
ridiculous. He wears his trousers
307
00:17:34,446 --> 00:17:37,366
half way down his backside
for a kick off. I've heard enough.
308
00:17:37,366 --> 00:17:39,526
The search was illegal.
You've no evidence
309
00:17:39,526 --> 00:17:41,286
with which to hold my client.
310
00:17:44,366 --> 00:17:46,846
You can't be considering
letting him go, surely?
311
00:17:46,846 --> 00:17:49,606
If the print isn't holding up,
we haven't got enough.
312
00:17:49,606 --> 00:17:51,566
Thank you.
313
00:17:54,806 --> 00:17:57,966
Right, keep him here. The reason
doesn't matter, we need more time.
314
00:17:57,966 --> 00:18:01,046
The reason doesn't matter?
What century are you working in?
315
00:18:01,046 --> 00:18:03,206
This is happening, Ronnie,
deal with it.
316
00:18:25,166 --> 00:18:27,526
Bobbi asked for a lift
and that's what I gave him.
317
00:18:27,526 --> 00:18:29,926
And you didn't ask why?
You've seen his step dad.
318
00:18:29,926 --> 00:18:32,926
If Bobbi wants to stay somewhere
else, I can understand that.
319
00:18:32,926 --> 00:18:35,886
Whilst he was in the car,
he didn't say anything at all
320
00:18:35,886 --> 00:18:38,726
or ask you to do anything for him?
Take him anywhere? No.
321
00:18:38,726 --> 00:18:40,566
Nothing in here, Ron.
322
00:18:41,566 --> 00:18:43,686
Look, if that's everything,
I have work.
323
00:18:43,686 --> 00:18:45,686
Oh, you've got work?
That's interesting
324
00:18:45,686 --> 00:18:48,566
because I've seen forms
claiming council tax benefits.
325
00:18:48,566 --> 00:18:51,086
I mean, if the authorities find out
you've got a job
326
00:18:51,086 --> 00:18:53,566
and they're spending money on you
for no good reason,
327
00:18:53,566 --> 00:18:56,166
it's our duty to report that stuff.
We don't earn enough
328
00:18:56,166 --> 00:18:58,606
to cover food and rent as it is.
You could be evicted.
329
00:18:58,606 --> 00:19:01,606
You can't do that. Why not? Go
and cosy up at Zana's mum's house.
330
00:19:01,606 --> 00:19:04,846
She can't go back there.
The reason Zana got her own place
331
00:19:04,846 --> 00:19:06,926
is cos of Warren.
She can't go back there, OK?
332
00:19:06,926 --> 00:19:09,646
You know what, Jamal,
you're going to have to help us out.
333
00:19:09,646 --> 00:19:12,686
How much do you love Zana?
Cos she's gonna want you
334
00:19:12,686 --> 00:19:15,126
to do the right thing
for her brother, isn't she?
335
00:19:18,766 --> 00:19:21,926
Look, all I know is that we stopped
at a cash point on the way.
336
00:19:21,926 --> 00:19:24,526
Bobbi jumped out and ran behind
the bins to take a leak.
337
00:19:24,526 --> 00:19:26,406
That's all I know, I swear.
338
00:19:35,886 --> 00:19:39,286
All right, guys. We got it.
We're good, we're good.
339
00:19:39,966 --> 00:19:43,246
Thank you. Ooh. Jamal.
340
00:19:44,806 --> 00:19:46,846
That is one hell of a leak.
341
00:19:49,206 --> 00:19:53,246
OK, I want everyone searched.
I don't want anyone getting hurt.
342
00:19:53,246 --> 00:19:56,046
This is harassment, man!
Do you know what Bobbi, son?
343
00:19:56,046 --> 00:19:58,006
We haven't even started yet.
344
00:19:58,006 --> 00:20:00,406
Anyone caught with a blade
gets arrested
345
00:20:00,406 --> 00:20:02,886
and sent back to the station
for processing.
346
00:20:04,286 --> 00:20:06,806
I ain't done nothing wrong.
347
00:20:06,806 --> 00:20:09,566
No-one wants you here.
This isn't going away, son.
348
00:20:09,566 --> 00:20:12,206
The white bitch deserved it.
What did you just say?!
349
00:20:12,206 --> 00:20:14,126
We good, Ron?
350
00:20:14,126 --> 00:20:16,006
Do you know what?
I couldn't be better.
351
00:20:16,006 --> 00:20:18,206
Our main man here's just confessed.
You what?
352
00:20:18,206 --> 00:20:21,366
Do you want to tell Detective Hawkins
what you just said to me?
353
00:20:21,366 --> 00:20:24,246
No, didn't think so.
Wrap it up, boys, we're done here.
354
00:20:35,226 --> 00:20:39,226
The confession is uncorroborated and
my client says it never happened.
355
00:20:39,226 --> 00:20:41,986
Really? Is that right, Bobbi?
Are you calling me a liar?
356
00:20:41,986 --> 00:20:43,826
Don't answer that.
357
00:20:43,826 --> 00:20:47,226
You turned up mob-handed in stab
vests, four of you in uniform,
358
00:20:47,226 --> 00:20:49,826
to intimidate a bunch of teenagers
playing football?
359
00:20:49,826 --> 00:20:51,986
One of whom is a murder suspect
360
00:20:51,986 --> 00:20:54,426
and two others were caught
carrying knives.
361
00:20:54,426 --> 00:20:57,506
And exactly what evidence is it
that's led you to pursue my client
362
00:20:57,506 --> 00:21:00,226
as a murder suspect?
The fact that he told me he did it
363
00:21:00,226 --> 00:21:03,426
in the first place, that's a pretty
good start, wouldn't you say?
364
00:21:03,426 --> 00:21:05,186
He's lying.
365
00:21:05,186 --> 00:21:07,626
So what did you say to DS Brooks,
then, Bobbi?
366
00:21:07,626 --> 00:21:09,426
Cos I saw you say something.
367
00:21:16,706 --> 00:21:19,906
I told him he was too old
to catch me if I ran.
368
00:21:25,106 --> 00:21:27,186
I never admitted to no murder.
369
00:21:32,306 --> 00:21:34,506
Did you hear this confession?
No.
370
00:21:34,506 --> 00:21:37,586
Bobbi said,
'The white bitch deserved it.'
371
00:21:37,586 --> 00:21:39,426
And what did you say to him?
372
00:21:39,426 --> 00:21:42,466
Well, to be fair, Ronnie didn't
have time to say anything.
373
00:21:42,466 --> 00:21:44,306
He just came out with it.
374
00:21:44,306 --> 00:21:46,986
See, to a jury that's going to seem
a bit convenient.
375
00:21:46,986 --> 00:21:49,506
Suddenly he admits to a stabbing
out the blue.
376
00:21:49,506 --> 00:21:53,066
No offence, Kate, we're not dealing
with a criminal mastermind here.
377
00:21:53,066 --> 00:21:55,066
Bobbi's just a gobby teenager,
that's it.
378
00:21:55,066 --> 00:21:58,986
It doesn't matter. If a jury doesn't
believe you, we have no prosecution.
379
00:21:58,986 --> 00:22:00,946
But why wouldn't they believe me?
380
00:22:02,066 --> 00:22:04,346
Ronnie, we trust you, obviously,
381
00:22:04,346 --> 00:22:07,306
but in a your-word-versus-theirs
argument,
382
00:22:07,306 --> 00:22:09,706
not everyone believes
the police officer.
383
00:22:10,946 --> 00:22:12,906
Not anymore.
384
00:22:12,906 --> 00:22:15,706
It would really help if you
had some forensic evidence.
385
00:22:21,626 --> 00:22:24,106
It's clean. No prints.
What, none at all?
386
00:22:24,106 --> 00:22:27,306
And none of the victim's DNA
on the blade or on the handle.
387
00:22:27,306 --> 00:22:30,266
So if this is the murder weapon,
I can't prove it forensically.
388
00:22:30,266 --> 00:22:32,106
So we've got nothing?
Again.
389
00:22:32,906 --> 00:22:35,306
Wait, what are these?
390
00:22:35,306 --> 00:22:38,666
Here.
I assumed they were wear and tear.
391
00:22:38,666 --> 00:22:40,986
I'm sure I've seen markings
like these on a knife
392
00:22:40,986 --> 00:22:43,146
used in a gang stabbing
a couple of years ago.
393
00:22:43,146 --> 00:22:45,226
That might be worth
digging a bit deeper.
394
00:22:45,226 --> 00:22:47,946
Is Bobbi Washington in a gang?
Not according to CRIMINT.
395
00:22:47,946 --> 00:22:50,386
OK, well, I'll get the scratches
checked out
396
00:22:50,386 --> 00:22:53,146
but at as things stand at the
moment, I can't give evidence
397
00:22:53,146 --> 00:22:55,146
that this is the knife
that killed Sally.
398
00:22:55,146 --> 00:22:57,626
I swear this used to be
a little bit easier.
399
00:22:57,626 --> 00:22:59,706
We'll have to release him.
400
00:23:00,706 --> 00:23:03,626
I also need to give an
update to Borough Commander Stone.
401
00:23:03,626 --> 00:23:06,586
Good luck with that. What makes
you think I'm going on my own?
402
00:23:10,786 --> 00:23:13,426
How do we not have this man
in custody yet?
403
00:23:13,426 --> 00:23:16,146
No, let me change that question,
404
00:23:16,146 --> 00:23:20,186
because you already have
had him in custody...twice.
405
00:23:21,306 --> 00:23:24,106
Each time, the evidence fell apart
at the last minute.
406
00:23:24,106 --> 00:23:26,386
Fell apart?
407
00:23:26,386 --> 00:23:28,666
Is that what you'd like to say
to the press?
408
00:23:31,466 --> 00:23:34,546
Cos they want to know
why our streets are no longer safe.
409
00:23:34,546 --> 00:23:37,706
They want to know how a 15-year-old
scrote is running rings
410
00:23:37,706 --> 00:23:41,026
around the finest officers that
London can put out on the street.
411
00:23:41,026 --> 00:23:43,226
Because, sir,
this 15-year-old scrote
412
00:23:43,226 --> 00:23:45,626
has one of the best duty solicitors
on his side.
413
00:23:45,626 --> 00:23:48,946
We know it's him, sir.
We just need more evidence.
414
00:23:48,946 --> 00:23:50,786
Oh, really?
415
00:23:50,786 --> 00:23:52,746
And how do you know?
416
00:23:52,746 --> 00:23:54,946
He confessed, sir.
You have a confession?
417
00:23:54,946 --> 00:23:57,226
Only Detective Brooks heard it.
418
00:23:57,226 --> 00:23:59,266
And his word isn't good enough?
419
00:23:59,266 --> 00:24:01,506
With respect, sir,
that's not the point.
420
00:24:01,506 --> 00:24:04,106
It won't work for the prosecution
on its own.
421
00:24:04,106 --> 00:24:06,146
What happened to the knife?
422
00:24:06,146 --> 00:24:08,146
It's clean of the suspect's DNA.
423
00:24:08,146 --> 00:24:10,466
And the eye witness reports?
424
00:24:10,466 --> 00:24:13,106
They're still coming in
but you know as well as I do,
425
00:24:13,106 --> 00:24:16,186
when a suspect is wearing
a motorcycle helmet and gloves,
426
00:24:16,186 --> 00:24:18,466
we can't even secure
an ethnic identification.
427
00:24:18,466 --> 00:24:20,626
So how is this kid
your prime suspect?
428
00:24:20,626 --> 00:24:22,626
Because this is not
our first time...
429
00:24:23,706 --> 00:24:25,586
..sir.
430
00:24:25,586 --> 00:24:28,466
The circumstantial was enough
to pursue Bobbi Washington
431
00:24:28,466 --> 00:24:30,306
and it still is.
432
00:24:32,426 --> 00:24:34,266
Excuse us.
433
00:24:43,826 --> 00:24:47,706
OK...you're doing all you can,
I can see that.
434
00:24:49,026 --> 00:24:52,346
But this is your first week
and we're already a laughing stock.
435
00:24:52,346 --> 00:24:55,026
We're meant to be clearing
the streets of knife crime.
436
00:24:55,026 --> 00:24:56,946
I know...and we will.
437
00:24:57,866 --> 00:25:01,546
Your team giving you enough support?
Yes, absolutely.
438
00:25:03,506 --> 00:25:07,186
Because if you need get rid of some
deadwood, you'll have my approval.
439
00:25:07,186 --> 00:25:10,346
No, we're fine, thank you, sir.
440
00:25:10,346 --> 00:25:12,346
I know you, Lis.
441
00:25:13,826 --> 00:25:16,946
I love your loyalty but seriously,
Divisional Intelligence
442
00:25:16,946 --> 00:25:19,906
have an opening if you need
to give someone a promotion.
443
00:25:19,906 --> 00:25:22,466
Get them out of harm's way.
444
00:25:22,466 --> 00:25:24,426
Like you did with me?
445
00:25:29,786 --> 00:25:31,826
Thank you for that.
446
00:25:31,826 --> 00:25:34,946
Let's be very clear.
I defended you for the team
447
00:25:34,946 --> 00:25:37,626
because I don't want anyone
thinking I am running a unit
448
00:25:37,626 --> 00:25:39,586
that can't put a case together.
449
00:25:39,586 --> 00:25:41,986
Well, we don't want anyone
thinking that, do we?
450
00:25:42,906 --> 00:25:45,826
I don't know what your problem
is here, Brooks.
451
00:25:47,346 --> 00:25:49,906
With respect, gov,
we can put a case together.
452
00:25:49,906 --> 00:25:51,946
We just need more time.
Good.
453
00:25:51,946 --> 00:25:53,946
Because I am not doing that again.
454
00:25:58,706 --> 00:26:02,306
You were onto something with the
scratches on the knife handle, Joe.
455
00:26:03,506 --> 00:26:07,386
It seems all members of certain
gangs would use the same markings,
456
00:26:07,386 --> 00:26:09,386
like a badge of honour.
457
00:26:09,386 --> 00:26:13,026
They stopped when they realised
we were using it to identify them.
458
00:26:13,026 --> 00:26:14,866
Muppets.
459
00:26:14,866 --> 00:26:17,026
How does that help us, though, Lilly?
460
00:26:17,026 --> 00:26:20,186
So, the rough edge
of scratched plastic
461
00:26:20,186 --> 00:26:22,146
is almost impossible to wash clean.
462
00:26:22,146 --> 00:26:24,946
It picks up trace materials
which become ingrained.
463
00:26:24,946 --> 00:26:27,946
Like skin, grime, dirt.
464
00:26:27,946 --> 00:26:31,466
Can you link that to Bobbi?
The DNA I found is older
465
00:26:31,466 --> 00:26:33,586
than the crime
you're trying to solve, Ron.
466
00:26:33,586 --> 00:26:35,466
Much older.
467
00:26:36,266 --> 00:26:38,586
So who's DNA is it, then?
468
00:26:38,586 --> 00:26:40,746
Bobbi's mum. Shonda.
469
00:26:44,226 --> 00:26:47,226
How can we arrest his mum
if the forensic evidence
470
00:26:47,226 --> 00:26:49,226
doesn't relate to the crime?
471
00:26:51,266 --> 00:26:54,826
Well, but...she don't know that,
though, does she?
472
00:26:55,906 --> 00:26:57,986
So bring her in anyway?
473
00:26:57,986 --> 00:27:01,266
Yeah. And put her maternal instincts
to the test.
474
00:27:06,506 --> 00:27:08,506
Oh, man. Ain't you lot bored yet?
475
00:27:09,986 --> 00:27:12,066
Bobbi! Jakes are here.
476
00:27:12,066 --> 00:27:14,146
It's not Bobbi we've come to see.
477
00:27:15,986 --> 00:27:18,906
Shonda Washington,
I am arresting you
478
00:27:18,906 --> 00:27:21,466
on suspicion of the murder
of Sally Carlow. What?
479
00:27:21,466 --> 00:27:24,226
You do not have to say anything
but it may harm your defence
480
00:27:24,226 --> 00:27:27,226
if you do not mention when
questioned... I didn't do anything.
481
00:27:27,226 --> 00:27:29,146
..something you later rely
on in court.
482
00:27:29,146 --> 00:27:31,266
Anything you do say
may be given in evidence.
483
00:27:31,266 --> 00:27:33,266
I didn't stab no-one!
Get your hands off her.
484
00:27:34,906 --> 00:27:37,346
It's a stretch,
to say the very least.
485
00:27:37,346 --> 00:27:40,426
And you don't want it getting out
that Ronnie and Joe made an arrest
486
00:27:40,426 --> 00:27:43,586
with insufficient evidence.
But what if Shonda admits
487
00:27:43,586 --> 00:27:45,506
that she gave the knife to Bobbi
488
00:27:45,506 --> 00:27:48,346
and that he had it that morning?
Isn't that enough?
489
00:27:48,346 --> 00:27:50,826
By the sounds of it,
she's all over the place.
490
00:27:50,826 --> 00:27:53,986
The Jury's going to have a hard time
believing anything she says.
491
00:27:53,986 --> 00:27:56,866
Let alone a connection between
a suspect and a murder weapon.
492
00:27:56,866 --> 00:27:59,986
And how are they going to convince
a mum to grass on her own son?
493
00:27:59,986 --> 00:28:01,946
All she has to do is stay quiet.
494
00:28:01,946 --> 00:28:04,346
Well, we're just
going to have to trust Ronnie.
495
00:28:06,786 --> 00:28:10,466
Ron, the solicitor's here.
They're ready for us.
496
00:28:10,466 --> 00:28:12,346
Let them wait.
497
00:28:12,346 --> 00:28:14,226
What?
498
00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:16,466
You know what, Joe.
Time is our friend here.
499
00:28:16,466 --> 00:28:20,266
I reckon another ten minutes
should do it.
500
00:28:21,146 --> 00:28:23,546
She wants a drink. I know I do.
501
00:28:30,866 --> 00:28:36,866
So, how does a 15-year-old boy
get hold of a gang-marked knife?
502
00:28:38,346 --> 00:28:40,226
Lot of gangs in London.
503
00:28:40,226 --> 00:28:44,666
But this particular knife
has got your DNA all over it.
504
00:28:45,466 --> 00:28:47,466
So how did it end up
behind a supermarket
505
00:28:47,466 --> 00:28:49,546
on the way
to Liverpool Street station?
506
00:28:50,826 --> 00:28:52,866
Bobbi nick it off you?
507
00:28:54,306 --> 00:28:56,346
Maybe it was a Christmas present?
508
00:28:56,346 --> 00:28:58,386
Show him how much you care?
509
00:29:15,066 --> 00:29:17,306
Expensive habit, isn't it?
510
00:29:23,226 --> 00:29:26,066
Even the cheap stuff
costs an awful lot
511
00:29:26,066 --> 00:29:28,226
when you put away as much as we do.
512
00:29:28,226 --> 00:29:32,026
But when you start on the hard stuff,
like a really good gin.
513
00:29:32,026 --> 00:29:34,226
Or...the vodka...
514
00:29:39,746 --> 00:29:42,426
..I mean, how can you afford that
on the social?
515
00:29:43,666 --> 00:29:47,026
Got to be some extra money coming in
from somewhere, Shonda.
516
00:29:47,026 --> 00:29:52,626
Cos I know you would do anything
for your next drink.
517
00:29:55,346 --> 00:29:57,186
'Ey?
518
00:29:58,746 --> 00:30:00,626
Wouldn't you?
519
00:30:00,626 --> 00:30:04,106
Like, having loved ones
steal for you.
520
00:30:06,026 --> 00:30:08,386
And Bobbi, he's your little soldier.
521
00:30:08,386 --> 00:30:12,626
He still loves his mum, bless him,
and he'd do anything you ask.
522
00:30:14,506 --> 00:30:16,946
But this time...
523
00:30:16,946 --> 00:30:20,986
well...he's gone too far, hasn't he?
524
00:30:23,226 --> 00:30:30,266
So...you tell us where Bobbi
got this knife from...
525
00:30:31,666 --> 00:30:33,906
..and you can walk out that door.
526
00:30:34,866 --> 00:30:36,946
Go anywhere you want.
527
00:30:54,666 --> 00:30:56,986
Look, look. It's the feds
I was telling you about.
528
00:30:56,986 --> 00:30:58,786
They can't leave me alone.
529
00:30:58,786 --> 00:31:00,746
See that old one. He loves me.
530
00:31:02,146 --> 00:31:04,026
Funny guy (!)
Hmm.
531
00:31:04,026 --> 00:31:06,506
Bobbi Washington, I am arresting you
532
00:31:06,506 --> 00:31:08,586
on suspicion of the murder
of Sally Carlow.
533
00:31:08,586 --> 00:31:10,826
You can't do that.
You do not have to say anything
534
00:31:10,826 --> 00:31:13,906
but it may harm your defence if you
do not mention when questioned...
535
00:31:13,906 --> 00:31:16,946
I haven't done nothing. ..something
you later rely on in court.
536
00:31:16,946 --> 00:31:20,186
You can't do that to me. Anything
you do say may be given as evidence.
537
00:31:20,186 --> 00:31:22,106
Get off me.
538
00:31:30,884 --> 00:31:35,124
So the alcoholic mother will give
evidence against her own son?
539
00:31:35,124 --> 00:31:37,044
We need to see
how she holds it together
540
00:31:37,044 --> 00:31:38,844
in the witness box, but yes.
541
00:31:38,844 --> 00:31:40,724
Will the jury believe her?
542
00:31:40,724 --> 00:31:42,444
Well, it's the one absolute link
543
00:31:42,444 --> 00:31:44,804
between Bobbi, the murder weapon
and the victim.
544
00:31:44,804 --> 00:31:47,204
And if that doesn't play,
what are we left with?
545
00:31:47,204 --> 00:31:49,004
The confession.
546
00:31:49,004 --> 00:31:51,844
Which no-one but DS Brooks heard
and which Bobbi denies.
547
00:31:51,844 --> 00:31:54,164
Am I the only one taking Ronnie
at his word on this?
548
00:31:54,164 --> 00:31:56,004
You're the only prosecutor these days
549
00:31:56,004 --> 00:31:58,964
taking any police officer at their
word. He will be under oath.
550
00:31:58,964 --> 00:32:01,004
It's still a tough ask
to get the case home.
551
00:32:01,004 --> 00:32:04,044
And if the jury doubt Ronnie,
the whole trial collapses.
552
00:32:09,124 --> 00:32:11,244
How did Bobbi's father die?
553
00:32:11,244 --> 00:32:13,684
His biological father.
554
00:32:13,684 --> 00:32:15,844
He was stabbed.
555
00:32:15,844 --> 00:32:17,924
By whom?
556
00:32:17,924 --> 00:32:20,444
He was a member
of the Tottenham crew.
557
00:32:22,004 --> 00:32:23,804
We both were.
558
00:32:26,644 --> 00:32:29,084
They killed him
cos he disabused the rules.
559
00:32:29,884 --> 00:32:31,844
And what rules were they?
560
00:32:39,844 --> 00:32:45,324
It was expected for girlfriends
to be shared around.
561
00:32:46,884 --> 00:32:48,884
Shared for what?
562
00:32:52,684 --> 00:32:54,684
Sex.
563
00:33:00,764 --> 00:33:05,804
The rules were that they could
have us whenever they wanted us.
564
00:33:08,964 --> 00:33:11,884
Karl said no
and they killed him for it.
565
00:33:14,684 --> 00:33:17,604
The official report says
that after Karl was stabbed,
566
00:33:17,604 --> 00:33:21,404
his girlfriend picked up his knife
and used it to defend herself.
567
00:33:21,404 --> 00:33:23,164
That would be you?
568
00:33:23,164 --> 00:33:25,324
Now, this was his gang-marked knife,
569
00:33:25,324 --> 00:33:28,404
identified by two parallel scratches
on the handle?
570
00:33:33,764 --> 00:33:35,764
And what happened to that knife?
571
00:33:42,844 --> 00:33:45,644
I was so scared that night.
572
00:33:47,244 --> 00:33:49,764
More scared than I'd ever been
in my life.
573
00:33:52,364 --> 00:33:54,924
I didn't want my son
to go through that.
574
00:33:56,444 --> 00:33:59,244
Not ever.
575
00:33:59,244 --> 00:34:02,604
So on his 13th birthday,
576
00:34:02,604 --> 00:34:07,524
I gave Bobbi his dad's knife
to protect himself
577
00:34:07,524 --> 00:34:11,284
so that he could never feel
as scared as I was.
578
00:34:17,724 --> 00:34:20,364
This is the alleged murder weapon,
which contains,
579
00:34:20,364 --> 00:34:24,204
within the aforementioned scratches
on the plastic handle,
580
00:34:24,204 --> 00:34:26,684
DNA linking it to my client.
581
00:34:27,804 --> 00:34:29,764
Is that correct?
582
00:34:29,764 --> 00:34:32,564
Well...
583
00:34:32,564 --> 00:34:35,244
no.
584
00:34:35,244 --> 00:34:37,284
Oh, that's right. Forgive me.
585
00:34:37,284 --> 00:34:39,764
The DNA found on the handle
of that knife
586
00:34:39,764 --> 00:34:43,084
doesn't belong to the defendant
at all, does it?
587
00:34:43,084 --> 00:34:45,724
Little less of the theatrics,
Mr Greer.
588
00:34:45,724 --> 00:34:47,684
My lord.
589
00:34:48,804 --> 00:34:52,964
Ms Townsend, can you say
with absolute certainty
590
00:34:52,964 --> 00:34:57,444
that this is the murder weapon
that was used against Sally Carlow?
591
00:34:57,444 --> 00:35:01,684
Not with absolute certainty, no.
592
00:35:08,364 --> 00:35:11,524
Well, it's not the answer we wanted
to hear but it's not a surprise.
593
00:35:11,524 --> 00:35:13,404
To be honest,
if he hadn't gone there,
594
00:35:13,404 --> 00:35:16,244
I'd have been disappointed.
Well, it'd be nice for him
595
00:35:16,244 --> 00:35:18,124
to slip up, wouldn't it?
Just this once.
596
00:35:18,124 --> 00:35:21,044
Greer doesn't make those kind
of mistakes. Neither do I, Jake.
597
00:35:21,044 --> 00:35:23,564
Bobbi confessed, I'm telling you.
I believe you.
598
00:35:24,804 --> 00:35:27,444
But the jury in there have
all read about Hillsborough,
599
00:35:27,444 --> 00:35:30,884
Leveson, plebgate. Those officers
have undermined your credibility.
600
00:35:30,884 --> 00:35:34,244
I'd like to string them up, I really
would. Every last one of them.
601
00:35:34,884 --> 00:35:36,644
What? You wouldn't?
602
00:35:36,644 --> 00:35:40,084
Any of your mates brought the legal
system crashing down around you?
603
00:35:41,084 --> 00:35:43,084
Yes. Yes, I would.
604
00:35:47,004 --> 00:35:49,604
How many years experience
have you had in the force?
605
00:35:49,604 --> 00:35:51,684
37.
606
00:35:51,684 --> 00:35:54,404
And do you think you've developed
a skill
607
00:35:54,404 --> 00:35:58,124
of assessing or recognising patterns
of criminal behaviour?
608
00:35:58,844 --> 00:36:00,884
Yes, I suppose.
609
00:36:00,884 --> 00:36:02,924
So, an officer with this skill
610
00:36:02,924 --> 00:36:06,844
would see a suspect on the street
and make an assessment...
611
00:36:06,844 --> 00:36:08,924
in the moment?
612
00:36:08,924 --> 00:36:12,764
Yes, taking everything into account.
613
00:36:12,764 --> 00:36:16,204
Whether he's in a hoodie
or a wig and gown, for example?
614
00:36:16,204 --> 00:36:18,564
Well, it's not just about
what they wear.
615
00:36:18,564 --> 00:36:21,324
And I've known one or two crooks
to wear a wig and gown.
616
00:36:21,324 --> 00:36:28,364
Indeed. You must also take into
account context, the local area.
617
00:36:28,364 --> 00:36:30,164
The colour of their skin?
618
00:36:30,164 --> 00:36:33,524
I fail to see what this
has to do with the defence
of Bobbi Washington.
619
00:36:33,524 --> 00:36:36,244
It is indicative of character,
My Lord.
620
00:36:36,244 --> 00:36:38,084
What's your question?
621
00:36:38,084 --> 00:36:40,924
Were you in active service
in the summer of 1985
622
00:36:40,924 --> 00:36:43,044
during the London race riots?
623
00:36:43,964 --> 00:36:46,004
Yes. I was in uniform.
624
00:36:46,004 --> 00:36:48,444
Did you read the Macpherson report?
625
00:36:49,764 --> 00:36:51,604
No, not all of it.
626
00:36:51,604 --> 00:36:54,844
But you are aware of the section
which relates to the force in London
627
00:36:54,844 --> 00:36:58,404
during that time suffering
from institutional racism?
628
00:36:58,404 --> 00:37:00,444
And again, my Lord!
629
00:37:00,444 --> 00:37:04,164
I am just asking the jury
to do with Detective Brooks
630
00:37:04,164 --> 00:37:06,484
what he does
when assessing a suspect.
631
00:37:06,484 --> 00:37:09,324
Put his whole character in context.
632
00:37:09,324 --> 00:37:11,404
I still don't hear a question.
633
00:37:13,044 --> 00:37:17,044
When you saw my client,
did you not make the assumption
634
00:37:17,044 --> 00:37:19,404
he was a criminal
because of how he looked?
635
00:37:19,404 --> 00:37:21,884
Erm...no.
We arrested Bobbi Washington
636
00:37:21,884 --> 00:37:24,764
because we thought
we had the necessary evidence.
637
00:37:24,764 --> 00:37:26,844
Which you did not.
638
00:37:26,844 --> 00:37:32,004
Which leads me to the question, why
did you repeatedly arrest my client?
639
00:37:32,884 --> 00:37:35,604
Was it not because he fitted
a certain profile?
640
00:37:35,604 --> 00:37:38,084
A certain racial profile?
641
00:37:39,804 --> 00:37:42,524
No. His ethnic background
had nothing to do with it.
642
00:37:42,524 --> 00:37:45,404
So you don't suffer from
institutional racism? No.
643
00:37:45,404 --> 00:37:47,924
Not that you would admit it,
even if you did.
644
00:37:50,004 --> 00:37:52,124
You'll have to take my word for that.
645
00:37:55,004 --> 00:37:57,084
Like the confession?
646
00:37:57,964 --> 00:37:59,884
Forgive me.
647
00:37:59,884 --> 00:38:02,284
Perhaps you just fit
a certain profile.
648
00:38:03,964 --> 00:38:06,564
The jury will disregard
that last remark.
649
00:38:09,284 --> 00:38:12,204
With one uncorroborated confession
and no forensic evidence
650
00:38:12,204 --> 00:38:15,444
against my client, I have submitted
there is no case to answer.
651
00:38:15,444 --> 00:38:17,644
Nothing has changed
since the trial began.
652
00:38:17,644 --> 00:38:20,444
The prosecution is anchored
in this confession.
653
00:38:20,444 --> 00:38:22,484
I have to say,
having read the arguments,
654
00:38:22,484 --> 00:38:24,684
I'm finding it hard
to justify carrying on.
655
00:38:24,684 --> 00:38:28,444
DS Brooks is a sworn police officer
with nearly 40 years standing.
656
00:38:28,444 --> 00:38:31,084
Who has a partner who will not
testify on his behalf.
657
00:38:31,084 --> 00:38:32,924
Because he didn't hear him!
OK, OK.
658
00:38:32,924 --> 00:38:34,844
Stop the mudslinging.
659
00:38:34,844 --> 00:38:36,924
All the evidence is circumstantial.
660
00:38:36,924 --> 00:38:39,484
There's not enough here to proceed...
661
00:38:41,484 --> 00:38:44,124
..which is why I'm granting
a halftime dismissal.
662
00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:54,804
That's it?
663
00:38:54,804 --> 00:38:56,764
He just walks away?
664
00:38:56,764 --> 00:38:58,684
Albert, I'm so sorry.
665
00:38:58,684 --> 00:39:01,164
I just can't believe...
666
00:39:01,164 --> 00:39:03,044
the little shit
that killed my daughter
667
00:39:03,044 --> 00:39:05,004
is allowed to walk free but you...
668
00:39:08,484 --> 00:39:10,484
..did your very best.
669
00:39:15,804 --> 00:39:17,884
Don't take it personally, Ron.
670
00:39:19,164 --> 00:39:21,964
How can I not?
I promised his grandson, didn't I?
671
00:39:21,964 --> 00:39:23,884
Now even he thinks I'm a liar.
672
00:39:26,164 --> 00:39:28,604
But to just dismiss it like that
is outrageous.
673
00:39:28,604 --> 00:39:31,644
When we get back to the office,
I'll see if we can lodge an appeal.
674
00:39:31,644 --> 00:39:34,284
Won't make any difference.
Any new judge will be swayed
675
00:39:34,284 --> 00:39:37,364
by Lockwood's decision. We were
pushing our luck with the evidence.
676
00:39:37,364 --> 00:39:39,484
Ronnie doesn't deserve to be branded
a racist,
677
00:39:39,484 --> 00:39:41,884
even if it was only implied.
I'll tell you what else
678
00:39:41,884 --> 00:39:43,924
he shouldn't be branded as.
The scapegoat.
679
00:39:43,924 --> 00:39:46,804
Is Detective Brooks a racist?
Absolutely not.
680
00:39:46,804 --> 00:39:49,764
We had a suspect
and we pursued them vigorously.
681
00:39:49,764 --> 00:39:53,324
The case has collapsed. Surely
someone must be held responsible?
682
00:39:58,284 --> 00:40:00,124
This is a bad day for justice
683
00:40:00,124 --> 00:40:01,924
and we need to take a good,
hard look
684
00:40:01,924 --> 00:40:05,284
at how our officers deal with these
types of cases. Thank you.
685
00:40:05,284 --> 00:40:07,364
(THE PRESS ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE)
686
00:40:12,684 --> 00:40:15,364
Ronnie. Ah, gov.
These are the latest statements.
687
00:40:15,364 --> 00:40:18,364
Came in this afternoon. There's
bound to be something in here.
688
00:40:18,364 --> 00:40:20,124
I need you to see something.
689
00:40:20,124 --> 00:40:23,204
Gov, all due respect,
I need to be getting on with this.
690
00:40:23,204 --> 00:40:25,084
Don't make me pull rank.
691
00:40:37,924 --> 00:40:40,684
Borough Commander Stone wants you
to take a look at this.
692
00:40:40,684 --> 00:40:42,484
Yeah, no problem.
693
00:40:45,604 --> 00:40:48,404
It's based in Hackney
so less of a commute for you.
694
00:40:49,604 --> 00:40:51,644
Better hours.
695
00:40:51,644 --> 00:40:53,684
You could be home
every night by six.
696
00:40:59,324 --> 00:41:01,684
Divisional Intelligence?
697
00:41:07,084 --> 00:41:09,284
This will take me off the street.
698
00:41:15,364 --> 00:41:18,604
So...
699
00:41:20,364 --> 00:41:22,404
..I'm the sacrifice?
700
00:41:23,364 --> 00:41:25,444
After nearly 40 years?
701
00:41:27,604 --> 00:41:30,124
I think I deserve better than that,
don't you?
702
00:41:33,004 --> 00:41:35,804
Stone wants you to think about it
overnight.
703
00:41:35,804 --> 00:41:39,164
I need to give him an answer
by ten o'clock tomorrow morning.
704
00:42:07,284 --> 00:42:11,004
All right, I've read
this statement three times already
705
00:42:11,004 --> 00:42:13,364
and I still can't remember
anything in it.
706
00:42:13,364 --> 00:42:15,964
Time to call it a night, mate.
We can't call it a night.
707
00:42:15,964 --> 00:42:18,004
Ron! I'm not seeing
anything new here.
708
00:42:18,004 --> 00:42:20,244
Well, you know what?
We've missed something.
709
00:42:20,244 --> 00:42:23,004
We've got to keep looking.
I don't know, have a cup of tea,
710
00:42:23,004 --> 00:42:24,924
just give your brain a rest.
All right.
711
00:42:24,924 --> 00:42:26,644
Yeah.
What number are you on?
712
00:42:26,644 --> 00:42:28,484
Six.
Six?
713
00:42:28,484 --> 00:42:30,244
Yes.
714
00:42:30,244 --> 00:42:32,524
Oh, straight in, look at that.
715
00:42:32,524 --> 00:42:34,804
In it goes. Yes, get in, Ron.
716
00:42:35,564 --> 00:42:37,404
Fantastic.
717
00:42:50,204 --> 00:42:53,084
Ron, are you all right?
718
00:43:06,964 --> 00:43:09,124
Yeah. Come on, Joe. Follow me. Quick.
719
00:43:11,124 --> 00:43:14,284
Your voice when you rang,
I thought lives were at stake.
720
00:43:14,284 --> 00:43:16,124
They are, Kayla, love. They are.
721
00:43:17,844 --> 00:43:19,764
There you go.
722
00:43:20,764 --> 00:43:22,644
Bloody hell.
723
00:43:22,644 --> 00:43:24,924
Well done, love, thank you very much.
724
00:43:28,004 --> 00:43:31,444
When we arrested Bobbi Washington
at Liverpool Street station,
725
00:43:31,444 --> 00:43:34,844
he was wearing that. Plain red
football shirt, generic logo.
726
00:43:34,844 --> 00:43:40,844
However, this eyewitness clearly
states, 'On the day of the stabbing
727
00:43:40,844 --> 00:43:42,644
he was wearing a red football shirt
728
00:43:42,644 --> 00:43:44,684
with a gold number seven
on the front.'
729
00:43:46,204 --> 00:43:48,204
There's another shirt.
730
00:43:52,204 --> 00:43:54,804
Now, I think that is blood.
731
00:43:54,804 --> 00:43:57,244
Washed out, but still there.
732
00:43:57,244 --> 00:43:59,164
Bag it up.
733
00:44:00,884 --> 00:44:03,644
Bobbi came round here Saturday
morning, didn't he, Jamal?
734
00:44:03,644 --> 00:44:05,364
And you washed that knife for him.
735
00:44:05,364 --> 00:44:08,444
What were you thinking?
I was trying to protect him.
736
00:44:08,444 --> 00:44:10,404
I did it for you.
737
00:44:11,764 --> 00:44:14,084
You know why most criminals
get caught?
738
00:44:17,124 --> 00:44:19,204
Cos they're even more stupid
than we are.
739
00:44:20,004 --> 00:44:22,204
Seriously, why keep
a bloodstained shirt?
740
00:44:26,444 --> 00:44:28,364
My dad bought it for me.
741
00:44:32,724 --> 00:44:34,804
My real dad.
742
00:44:39,364 --> 00:44:41,444
It's the only thing
I've got left of him.
743
00:44:57,164 --> 00:45:00,884
Bobbi...what did you say
to Detective Brooks?
744
00:45:03,124 --> 00:45:05,324
I told him the white bitch
deserved it.
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