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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,440 He was very friendly. Everybody loved him. 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,120 He did not have one enemy. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,400 She sees two men pointing guns at her. 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,000 He was declared dead at the scene. 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,000 He did have a criminal record. Domestic violence related. 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,360 He laid hands on her, choked her, pointed a gun at her head. 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,240 We're trying to get away from this man, not antagonise him. 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,160 She was afraid that he was gonna take her out 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,560 as the only witness to this murder. 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,440 It was the worst day of my life. 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,680 She opened the door to 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,040 two of the worst people that she could have ever opened the door to. 13 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,120 South Bend is almost in the middle of the state of Indiana. 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,680 The South Bend originally founded its name 15 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,760 through the southernmost bend in the St Joseph River. 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,960 I think the heart and soul of South Bend 17 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,480 is based off of the University of Notre Dame 18 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,800 cos it is such a staple in the area 19 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:19,000 and it brings a lot of infrastructure to South Bend. 20 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,880 It's Christmas Eve 2015 in South Bend, Indiana. 21 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,880 It's a relatively quiet day. 22 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,960 Nothing really going on. 23 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,560 It was 43 degrees. 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,520 Hadn't had much snow. Decorations are up. 25 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,560 Everybody's getting ready. 26 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,120 Typically around the holidays, 27 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,440 there's not as much crime or activities 28 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,440 cos most people are with their loved ones. 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,640 Cleeve Chick and his girlfriend were 30 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,440 at Miami Hills third floor apartment 31 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,440 visiting with family for Christmas. 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,160 Christmas is very important to me and my family. 33 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,280 We celebrate it, we love it. 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,240 It's a time that we enjoy being around each other. 35 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,760 It's Meaghan and my son Dominic's apartment. 36 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,360 Me and Cleeve were staying there. 37 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,680 My daughter, Angelica, and her children were sitting on the couch. 38 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,040 We laugh and we giggle all the time. 39 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,920 We're really, really close family. 40 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,600 At 12:30pm, there's a knock at the door. 41 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,880 Meaghan Lloyd opens the door without checking the peephole first. 42 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,440 And upon opening the door, she sees two men in the stairwell 43 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,200 pointing guns at her. 44 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,600 Seconds later shots ring out. 45 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,400 I was at home 46 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,440 when I received a phone call saying I needed to come in. 47 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,680 We heard the dispatch of somebody shot in Miami Hills. 48 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,120 We were close by, so we responded to that. 49 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,000 We went up stairs 50 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,760 not really knowing where the threat was. 51 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,600 We're taking it pretty cautiously. 52 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,240 As we're going up the stairs, 53 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,720 you could smell a very distinct burnt gunpowder smell. 54 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,520 Once we get up to the third floor, 55 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,960 we see casings and bullet holes in the door. 56 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,320 The first officer makes contact, knocks on the door, 57 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,600 announces the police department. 58 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,120 When they said, "It's the police", 59 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,080 I had to literally move his body out from front of the door 60 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,840 cos they couldn't get in. 61 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,120 Clay Shaefer is the first one that opens the door 62 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:19,960 and tells us that his cousin, Cleeve Chick, was shot. 63 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,200 You could hear people screaming from the inside. 64 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,760 I'm down there holding the towels 65 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,440 on his head until the paramedic got there. 66 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,600 I didn't... I wasn't gonna let go. 67 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,280 I wasn't. 68 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,960 Cos he didn't deserve that. 69 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,960 I really thought when they came in, 70 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,960 I thought he was gonna make it. I really did. 71 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,480 They told us all to leave the apartment, go outside. 72 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,360 We were still in our pyjamas. 73 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,800 We were crying. We were... It was just horrible. 74 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,480 Cleeve Chick was very friendly, very funny, liked to dance, 75 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:13,160 had very good sense of humour, and everybody loved him. 76 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,000 Everybody loved him. He did not have one enemy. 77 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,080 Cleeve had one daughter that was six years old. 78 00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:23,320 He tried to be a good dad all the time. 79 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,280 I didn't like him at first. 80 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,960 I said he's too outspoken, he's too goofy. Liked to jump around. 81 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,600 And I'm like, "No, just stay away from me." 82 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,040 And then he grew on me and we started dating. 83 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,600 We were talking about getting engaged 84 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,760 and we hadn't made our mind up. 85 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,720 We went back and forth and then finally he bought me a ring 86 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,480 and we were gonna get married. 87 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,840 He was just a good man all the way around. 88 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,080 The victim was slumped over, his back was still against the door. 89 00:06:02,840 --> 00:06:05,160 He had one gunshot wound to the right shoulder 90 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,480 and one gunshot wound to the back of the head. 91 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,280 By the time paramedics arrived on scene, 92 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,120 Cleeve was declared dead at scene. 93 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,640 My dad actually called me and told me my boyfriend had passed away, 94 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,400 and I just broke down. 95 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,200 But I knew in my heart that he was gone before I left, 96 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,000 but I didn't want to hear it. 97 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,920 I wasn't ready. 98 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,840 We had four shell casings in the hallway. 99 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,440 The door itself was hit with four bullet holes. 100 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,200 Two were high, one was medium, and one was low. 101 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,200 The two bullets - I believe - that were fired low, 102 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,000 the medium and the low one, were the ones that actually struck Cleeve. 103 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,800 The two high ones travelled further into the apartment 104 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,560 and went down into the far closet. 105 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,640 We knew that there were two guns involved. 106 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,600 We can tell that the weapons used were semi-automatic pistols, 107 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,680 but no guns, no weapons were found in the apartment. 108 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:12,280 This was a very lacking of evidence kind of case. 109 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,320 While I was interviewing Christy, she was very upset. 110 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,880 Clearly she had been crying. It was a very emotional, 111 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,120 bad, bad day for her. 112 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,800 12:30 that day, there was a knock at the door. 113 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,800 We thought it was our next door neighbour, 114 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,960 which is a good family friend of all of ours, 115 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,000 which is Cleeve's best friend. 116 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,440 Me and Meaghan were going to the door 117 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,440 to see who was gonna answer it. 118 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,960 Meaghan is only 4'4", maybe. 119 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,280 She's real short. We had a peephole she couldn't see through it. 120 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,640 Angelica and her children were sitting on the couch, 121 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,200 and Cleeve was sitting behind the door. 122 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,840 Meaghan opened the door, and when she opened the door, 123 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,600 we seen two guns pointing at us. 124 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,560 We both at the same time said, "They have guns!" 125 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,240 And I tell all the girls, "Go! Go! Go!" 126 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,640 Angelica grabs her children in the car seats, 127 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,920 she lays down on the floor in the living room, 128 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,200 and Meaghan takes off down the hallway 129 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,240 to the back bedroom. 130 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,320 Her child, which was just a newborn, was in the back area. 131 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,800 Cleeve jumped up out of the chair 132 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,360 and he pushed his hand against the door 133 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,000 trying to close the door 134 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,000 while two people were pushing on the other side. 135 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,560 And he finally got it shut and he locked it with the deadbolt. 136 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,520 And then all of a sudden, all I hear is gunfire. 137 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,640 He slid down the door and I'm right there with him. 138 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,440 I didn't know if they were gonna kick the door in. 139 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,160 I was talking to him, telling him, "I'm here. 140 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,960 I'm not going nowhere. I'm staying here with you. 141 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,640 You'll make it. Don't leave me." 142 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,640 And he wasn't responding. 143 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,920 Cleeve's actions were definitely heroic, 144 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,760 and I think he saved the people inside the apartment 145 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,040 from also being shot. 146 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,080 A good man lost his life saving our lives. 147 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,920 It was the worst day of my life. 148 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,680 Worst. 149 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:26,080 Christy was able to see the two men at the door. 150 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,840 She positively identified one as being Tyshawn Williams. 151 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,240 She did see the face of the second man, 152 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,120 but she did not know who he was. 153 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,880 Christy Harper knew who Tyshawn Williams was 154 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,680 because he had been in a four-year-long relationship with her 155 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,520 daughter Angelica Jones, and he was the father of her two children. 156 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,040 Tyshawn did have a criminal record. 157 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,640 Most of it was domestic violence related. 158 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,440 Tyshawn is very violent and he's just unstable. 159 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,760 There's something wrong. He needs help. 160 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,960 So, next, Meaghan Lloyd was interviewed. 161 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,160 So, we prepared a photo lineup and showed them to her, 162 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,520 and she was able to positively identify Tyshawn Williams 163 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:26,760 as being one of the men at the door with a gun. 164 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,120 We didn't have a name or face for the second gunman at that point. 165 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,920 Meaghan was able to describe the second gun as being a male, black. 166 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,680 That was the extent of it. 167 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,280 I want justice for all victims. 168 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,520 It was a tragedy that happened to Cleeve, 169 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:43,880 happened to the other individuals that were there at the home. 170 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,080 They had to see and witness all these horrible things happening. 171 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,480 I wanted to do right by them and find the men who did this. 172 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:54,320 We didn't know where they were. 173 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:55,920 We were really scared. 174 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,400 We were so scared, we went to family members, friend's house. 175 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:03,280 Every few hours we would move around because we were scared. 176 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:12,480 We're hoping to figure out where we may find Tyshawn 177 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,600 and potentially who the second shooter would've been. 178 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,840 Angelica sits down for the interview. 179 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,200 She's holding one of her children at the time. 180 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,440 She's very upset. 181 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,440 It's not a good day for her as well. 182 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,880 Angelica's version of events mirrored 183 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,600 pretty much everyone else's. 184 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:39,400 She was present when the shooting took place. 185 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:42,480 She saw Tyshawn Williams at the doorway. 186 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:47,080 So, she knows what happened and who did it. 187 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,240 And she also sees the hand 188 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,280 and gun of the second person, 189 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,840 but she does not see a face. 190 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,240 She did not know who the second person was. 191 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,800 But Angelica Jones and Tyshawn Williams had been 192 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,400 in a four-year-long romantic relationship. 193 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:04,120 They had actually lived together at Tyshawn Williams's house 194 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:05,520 with his mother. 195 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:08,760 She's the mother of Tyshawn's two children, 196 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,760 a three-month-old and a one-year-old. 197 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,400 Angelica and Tyshawn's relationship was tumultuous, 198 00:12:17,560 --> 00:12:21,240 filled with domestic-violence related incidents, 199 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,320 often gone unreported. 200 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,080 Angelica left Tyshawn because he had become violent with her. 201 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,520 He laid hands on her, choked her, pointed a gun at her head, 202 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:48,040 and made threats that "I will kill you if you ever leave me." 203 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,200 The very next day after that happened, 204 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,280 she takes the kids and goes off. 205 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,800 She went to the YWCA for protection 206 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,800 because he was threatening her, and she went there to live. 207 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:01,800 The night before the shooting, 208 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,160 Angelica had posted a picture on social media 209 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,440 of her snuggled up on a sofa with another man. 210 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,840 That man was Clay Shaefer, who is Meaghan Lloyd's brother. 211 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,320 Angelica and Clay had relations back in the past. 212 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,720 Angelica said that Tyshawn Williams had been calling 213 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,960 and texting her and sending her social media posts all night long, 214 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,400 threatening her, and wanting to see the children and see her. 215 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:29,760 They were trying to get him to stop calling the phone, 216 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,000 and they trying to tell him, "Look, 217 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,880 she's moved on, stop texting, leave her alone." 218 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,160 I believe Tyshawn had seen the picture on social media 219 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,480 and it infuriated him. 220 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,520 Clay was definitely in shock 221 00:13:59,680 --> 00:14:01,320 when he came into the interview. 222 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,600 Clay was in a neighbouring apartment building, 223 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,880 smoking weed with another female friend 224 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,960 at the time that the shooting occurred. 225 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,320 When Clay heard shots fired in the apartment complex... 226 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,040 ...and looked out the window, he'd seen two men 227 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,840 jumping into a green Bonneville 228 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:27,520 SS that he described as having a sagging rear bumper. 229 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,080 I think he described one of the men 230 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,240 as having a red sweatshirt in the backseat, 231 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,680 and identified a third person 232 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,760 because one of the two men got in the front passenger's seat 233 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,680 and the other one got in the rear seat. 234 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,200 And it sped away from the apartment complex. 235 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,040 Clay doesn't know who the third person is. 236 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,240 Then he described going up the stairs, 237 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,440 seeing bullet holes in the door. 238 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:58,280 Clay describes the scene inside as people crying, chaos, 239 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,480 not really understanding what's going on. 240 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,160 We learned from Clay Shaefer that he had recently moved back 241 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,920 from Indianapolis to South Bend 242 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,840 and was currently staying at his sister's apartment. 243 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,760 He knew Tyshawn was very jealous 244 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:21,360 and thought Angelica and Clay had something going on. 245 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,600 Clay Shaefer received a Facebook friend request from Tyshawn 246 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,200 and asked Angelica why her baby daddy 247 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,200 was sending him a friend request. 248 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:37,280 After Clay Shaefer accepted the friend request, the hostility began. 249 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,800 Tyshawn would post publicly to, what they call, throw the ones, 250 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,360 which is fight fist to fist. 251 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,640 But privately Tyshawn was sending Clay text messages 252 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,600 talking about how he was going to shoot him, 253 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,440 how he was gonna kill him and his child. 254 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,400 I don't think Clay wanted to fight with Tyshawn, but then again, 255 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,240 he posted that picture with him and Angelica. 256 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,920 I did not know. 257 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,200 I would've made sure we would've took 258 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,440 whatever picture was posted down. 259 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,600 I would have made my daughter delete her Facebook. 260 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,720 We're trying to get away from this man, not antagonise him. 261 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,800 But Tyshawn is very mad at this point. He's extremely angry. 262 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,640 He sends a picture of himself holding a gun pointed at the camera 263 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,600 to Clay and Angelica. 264 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,680 Clay talked to Angelica about it. 265 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,320 Angelica told Clay how crazy Tyshawn was 266 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,960 and the volatile relationship that they had. 267 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,560 And I don't think Clay took them seriously. 268 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,600 From the witnesses, we knew that 269 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,920 Dominic Paterson had not been at the scene, 270 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,400 but they told us where he was. 271 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:52,880 He was selling plasma. 272 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,360 So we sent officers to pick him up 273 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,240 and bring him to the Metro Homicide Unit for an interview. 274 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,000 Dominic was the son of Christy Harper 275 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,960 and the brother of Angelica Jones. 276 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,320 Dominic didn't know about the shooting. 277 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,360 He was actually shocked and surprised. 278 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,400 Didn't know what was going on. 279 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,400 Dominic was aware of the threats that were being made to Angelica 280 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,760 from Tyshawn because she had shown him the threats on her phone. 281 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,720 Nobody at the apartment thought that he knew where she was at. 282 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,840 The apartment was a secret to Tyshawn. 283 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,480 He didn't know where it was, or so they thought. 284 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,720 With search warrant in hand, we go to the house of Tyshawn's mother. 285 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,680 We knock on the door. 286 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,880 Initially nobody's home, but Mom shows up shortly thereafter. 287 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,960 Show her the search warrant, tell her why we're there, 288 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:49,360 what we're doing, 289 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,400 and she begrudgingly lets us into the house. 290 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,600 We looked throughout the house, 291 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,000 found several cartridges, 292 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,800 ammo boxes, 293 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,520 spent shell casing. 294 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,520 The spent shell casing from the basement 295 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,080 of Tyshawn's mother's house 296 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,120 was a ballistic match to the two of the four shell casings 297 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,040 that were found in the hallway outside the murder scene. 298 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,360 We identified the cabinets in the basement 299 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:25,680 to be similar to the photo that Tyshawn had sent Clay 300 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,000 {\an8}with Tyshawn pointing a gun at the camera. 301 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,680 {\an8}I told his mother that I really wanted to talk to Tyshawn. 302 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:32,880 She didn't know where he was. 303 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,040 And Tyshawn had been in the habit of using 304 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,680 burner phones or spoof numbers, 305 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,800 so he never really used the same phone number twice. 306 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,720 Spoof numbers are an application that you can pay for 307 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,400 and it masks your phone number to be something else. 308 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,360 Well, at this point, we have two armed gunmen out on the streets 309 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,040 of the city of South Bend, and we don't know where they are. 310 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,840 It becomes extremely frustrating 311 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,600 not knowing where the killer is, 312 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,640 because then he becomes a threat to everybody else around him. 313 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,240 In these types of circumstances 314 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,400 where you have a suspect known to be violent, 315 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,960 who's a known felon, you're not only conducting your investigation, 316 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:13,960 but you have to think about officer safety. 317 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:16,360 So, it's a combination of investigative 318 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,440 and sort of tactical considerations 319 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,560 that need to be constantly evaluated. 320 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,360 Christy Harper calls and says she has more information 321 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,600 about who she thinks the second shooter is. 322 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,560 I'm hoping that this information that she's coming with 323 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,160 is going to be the linchpin that brings us who the second suspect is. 324 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,280 Christy had told me that she had heard on the streets 325 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,960 that possibly the second party with Tyshawn had been Levon Ellison. 326 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,720 I did reach out to them trying to get them to see 327 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,040 if that was one of the people that was involved in the shooting. 328 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,200 Christy Harper and Meaghan Lloyd come in for a second interview 329 00:19:58,360 --> 00:19:59,960 on December 28th, 2015. 330 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:04,600 At the time, Levon did not have any criminal history to speak of. 331 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,320 {\an8}It was actually very hard to try and find a photograph of him. 332 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,280 I had to dig all the way down into his driver's licence. 333 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,760 We showed them photo lineups of Levon Ellison 334 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,160 in the hopes that they could identify him as the second shooter. 335 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,680 Both ladies looked at the photo lineups, did their due diligence, 336 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,320 but neither one of them could make a positive ID. 337 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,760 We tracked down Levon Ellison's parents, 338 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:34,480 spoke with them, and they claimed not to know where his son was. 339 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,160 It was suspicious that Levon wasn't around 340 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,680 and couldn't be talked to. 341 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,600 But suspicion is not the same thing as proof. 342 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,360 I'm splitting my attentions between several things at this point. 343 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,640 I'm working on trying to find Tyshawn Williams, 344 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,040 still trying to find associates of his, 345 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,040 and trying to find other associates of Levon Ellison. 346 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,960 The Department of Children's Services did reach out 347 00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:06,080 to the Metro Homicide Unit and told us that 348 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,600 Angelica Jones was secretly communicating with Tyshawn Williams 349 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,800 via several social media apps. 350 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,800 They knew this only because Angelica Jones had been staying 351 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,560 at the local YWCA after the shooting. 352 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,120 She needed a safe place to go with her children. 353 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,000 They don't want Tyshawn Williams showing up at their door as well. 354 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,440 So, they're trying to give us information to find him 355 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,280 and get him in custody. 356 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,800 We arranged with YWCA to pick up Angelica Jones 357 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,320 and bring her back to the Metro Homicide... 358 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,400 and just have a conversation with her about what's going on. 359 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,280 She finally admitted that she had been in communications 360 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,720 with Tyshawn via spoof numbers. 361 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,520 And in doing so, he had explained to her 362 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,920 his version of events of what happened that day. 363 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,840 His explanation was he had received an invite from a friend of his 364 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,720 to go to the apartment to commit a robbery. 365 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,280 Tyshawn was trying to spin this fantastical story 366 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,880 about how it was a total random occurrence 367 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,520 that he wound up at the same door where she was. 368 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,080 Tyshawn told Angelica that 369 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,120 the other suspect is the one who fired all the gunshots. 370 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,720 The physical evidence that the Metro Homicide Unit has 371 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:30,120 can prove that what Tyshawn is telling her is inaccurate. 372 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,000 We've already identified that there were 373 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,800 two guns that were fired at the scene. 374 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,280 On January 20th, 2016, we get a bunch of tips 375 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,160 saying that Tyshawn Williams is 376 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,400 hiding out in the Cobus Green Trailer Park, 377 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,360 which is just over the border into Elkhart County. 378 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,200 We send the US Marshals out, 379 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:56,520 we send the Elkhart County deputies out to the trailer park. 380 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,880 All they have is a general location. 381 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,200 They just have the park. 382 00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:01,880 They don't know which trailer it is, 383 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,360 they don't know which street it's on. 384 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,000 They don't have anything. They're just driving around randomly 385 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,440 in the trailer park and hoping to find something. 386 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,120 And that didn't come to anything. 387 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,080 I posted on my social media 388 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,160 what I was going through with Cleeve, 389 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,240 and a girl reached out to me 390 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,080 and she said that she was on a dating site, 391 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,840 that Tyshawn was reaching out to her, 392 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,240 and trying to meet up with her. 393 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,720 I reached out to Detective Wiley and had him check into it. 394 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,360 Somebody was actually communicating with Tyshawn via 395 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,600 a romantic social media app, I'll say. 396 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,640 So, that person knows where he's at in the trailer park - 397 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,960 which street it's on. They just don't know which trailer it is. 398 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:45,200 So, that person is calling Crime Stoppers 399 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:48,520 and the next day the tips just keep coming in, keep coming in. 400 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,840 It is essential that every one of these tips be followed up, 401 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,240 even if it seems to be bunk on the surface. 402 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,640 I mean, there are countless cases throughout history 403 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,840 where the case goes cold and when it's solved years later, 404 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,360 we see that, in fact, there was one tip never followed up on. 405 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,840 Those lessons have been learned 406 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,960 to the extent that now every tip and every case is followed through. 407 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,280 My partner and I end up going out to the trailer park ourselves. 408 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,360 We go out, we start checking the empty trailers. 409 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,080 Maybe he's squatting one of these empty trailers within the park. 410 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,880 That came up with nothing. 411 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,480 We're about to leave and we're randomly driving down 412 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,960 one of the streets in the trailer park, and I happen to look up 413 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:30,840 to my right, and I see Tyshawn Williams in a window. 414 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,920 We go up to the door of the trailer, knock on the door. 415 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,240 Young lady answers the door and I say who I am... 416 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:40,120 ...and "I'm looking for Tyshawn Williams. 417 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,360 I just saw him in your window. Where is he?" 418 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,960 And she denies, denies, denies. 419 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:47,960 Say, "No, he is not here, he's not here, he's not here." 420 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,360 When we asked for permission to come in 421 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,200 just to look around, she denied our entry. 422 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:56,280 I legitimise in my own mind 423 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,320 that I wanted to see him so bad that I saw him. 424 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,240 So, I had that moment of doubt. 425 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,280 So, we leave the trailer park and we go back to the office. 426 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,320 And I get a call from a tipster. 427 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,800 He says, "I know where Tyshawn Williams is." 428 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,800 And my ears perk up. 429 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,600 So, he comes on down to the office. 430 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:18,680 The tipster said that he had heard from his brother, 431 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,200 who lived in the Cobus Green Trailer Park, 432 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:24,240 that Tyshawn Williams was in the trailer park 433 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,400 and that he was actually hiding underneath a nearby trailer. 434 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,760 What the tipster said was when the police came to the trailer park 435 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,760 and knocked on the specific door, 436 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,000 Tyshawn was inside and the young lady was hiding him in the trailer. 437 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,240 After the police leave, which would've been myself and my partner, 438 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,560 Tyshawn leaves that trailer 439 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,240 and goes and hides underneath another trailer. 440 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,280 And he was hiding under that other trailer waiting for nightfall 441 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,880 so that he could actually slip out under the cover of darkness 442 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,040 because he thought that we had the trailer park on surveillance. 443 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,200 By January in South Bend, Indiana, 444 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:04,160 it's getting dark pretty early. 445 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,080 So, there's a time clock for me at this point. 446 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,760 I'm like I need to get back out to the trailer park. 447 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,520 Detective Wiley reaches back out 448 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,680 to the outside agencies for help 449 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,960 to send them back out there, and he eventually meets them out there. 450 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,960 We go out to that trailer, start yelling under the trailer, 451 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:23,960 "Tyshawn Williams, come out, come out, come out." 452 00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:26,040 Nothing. Nobody's moving, nothing happening. 453 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,600 I had asked for a canine, a dog to come out to help pick him up 454 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,440 and get him out there. The dog was not available. 455 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,400 So, in a moment of, 456 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,920 I don't know, genius or stupidity, 457 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,320 I start making fake barking sounds. 458 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,960 And he panics thinking that there's an actual dog, a canine. 459 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,000 And he says, "OK, I'm coming out, don't let the dog bite me." 460 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,800 So, he comes out from underneath the trailer and I got him. 461 00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:02,040 And I was able to put my cuffs on him. 462 00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:07,160 It was the culmination of over a month's worth of work 463 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,800 of trying to find him. 464 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,040 My heart was... through the roof. 465 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,160 They said he is under arrest. 466 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,440 Oh, I screamed, I cried, I yelled. 467 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,000 I was happy cos now we could sleep better at night. 468 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,760 For the time being. 469 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,600 After reading him Miranda, Tyshawn agrees to speak with us. 470 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,080 During Tyshawn's version of what occurred, 471 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,880 he claimed that he rode a bus to the Miami Hills Apartment Complex 472 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,520 through an invite from Angelica. 473 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,520 And when he arrived, two unknown male blacks 474 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,800 had followed him up the staircase. 475 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,640 He says he gets up to the apartment door, 476 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,320 the two male blacks that followed him, 477 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,400 brought up their guns and just started shooting at him. 478 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,520 That he's able to get out of the way of the bullets, 479 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,720 by dodging the bullets somehow. 480 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,600 He says somebody from inside of the apartment 481 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,800 ups a gun themselves and starts shooting out of the apartment. 482 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,840 And then everybody runs away. 483 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,080 That was his story. 484 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,600 Well, I told him that we had cameras 485 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,680 at the apartment building complex area 486 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,680 and that his version of events did not in any way match 487 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,800 with what we had on video. 488 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,280 They did have cameras at one time, 489 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,760 but they had been struck by lightning about two months prior 490 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,640 and they stopped working, and nobody knew about it. 491 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:39,160 Once Tyshawn realises that that lie has been busted, 492 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,680 he conforms to another lie. 493 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,640 So, he says he gets an invite from Angelica 494 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,800 to go down to the apartments. 495 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,480 He goes down there with his friend. 496 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,880 Tyshawn says that his friend's first name is Bruce, 497 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,600 but he doesn't provide any additional information 498 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,360 on who Bruce is. 499 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:02,120 During the interview with Tyshawn, 500 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,880 he claims to never have a gun of his own. 501 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,960 So, I showed him the picture of the threat of him 502 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,640 holding a gun to the camera 503 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,680 and he says, "Well, yeah, I only had that gun, 504 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,440 but I don't have it anymore and I didn't have it 505 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,320 on the day of the shooting." 506 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,080 When Tyshawn's pressed further, he stops the interview. 507 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,960 Tyshawn is then taken to jail and booked on the charge of murder. 508 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,480 The next day, Tyshawn reaches out to the jail staff 509 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,520 and asks to speak with investigators again. 510 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,640 Tyshawn claims that he is now ready to tell 511 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,880 what really happened during the shooting. 512 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,280 Tyshawn Williams tells investigators 513 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,120 that he wants to apologise 514 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,480 for what took place the day of the murder. 515 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,440 Tyshawn says that he did get an invite from Angelica 516 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,200 to come down to Miami Hills. 517 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,440 And Bruce had been with him when he hears this phone call from Angelica. 518 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,520 The threats that were coming into Angelica from Tyshawn, 519 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,480 Tyshawn says Bruce is the one who was using his phone 520 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,080 and his social media account to send those to Angelica. 521 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,760 {\an8}He was present when the threats are being sent, 522 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,440 {\an8}but he says it's all Bruce doing all the texting 523 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,160 {\an8}and all the messages and sending all that to Angelica. 524 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,040 This is the first time we've heard of Bruce's last name being Thomas. 525 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:11,280 So, Bruce Thomas and Tyshawn go down to the Miami Hills area together 526 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,080 and they go to the apartment door. 527 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,400 Tyshawn says that when they get down to the apartment door, 528 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,320 the door opens, 529 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,360 and Dominic and Bruce Thomas begin firing guns at each other. 530 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,240 Tyshawn says that Bruce catches a bullet 531 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,280 in one of his fingers on his right hand. 532 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,880 Well, eventually we start confronting Tyshawn more and more 533 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,480 about we know ballistically that there are two guns, 534 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,280 not just one gun. 535 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,440 We explained to him what ballistics are, how ballistics work, 536 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,520 and the imprint pattern that's on the back of a shell casing. 537 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,400 Finally he says, "OK, I did have a gun, 538 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,920 but I only fired it in surprise one time 539 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,840 when the other gunfire is going off." 540 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,600 And he's still claiming that Dominic is in the apartment shooting out, 541 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,920 which again, that does not match 542 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,720 with any of the physical evidence that we have. 543 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,240 There are no gunfire behind where the shooters would've been. 544 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,200 But Tyshawn says right after the shooting, 545 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,600 he fled the apartment with Bruce. 546 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,000 They go down and get into a green vehicle 547 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,680 that had been waiting for them. 548 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,800 Tyshawn said that the driver of the car 549 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,800 was a woman named Tania. 550 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,120 Tyshawn said Tania was driving a green Pontiac Bonneville. 551 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,240 After figuring out 552 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,280 Bruce Thomas was the second person involved in the shooting, 553 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,880 we began looking around for him, 554 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,160 and ultimately find out that he was arrested 555 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,320 and sitting in the St Joseph County Jail. 556 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,600 Bruce had been arrested for an unrelated burglary charge 557 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,240 and was actually on a warrant arrest. 558 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,080 We go to the jail, my partner and I, 559 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,320 we go and we try to talk with Bruce Thomas, 560 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,120 explain that "we're with the Metro Homicide Unit, 561 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,200 wanna talk to you about a homicide investigation we're conducting." 562 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,520 He totally rejects our invitation for an interview. 563 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,440 But while he's sitting at the table, he puts his hands on the table 564 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,840 and he has a bandage on the ring finger of his right hand. 565 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,120 Bruce wouldn't really tell us what happened to his hand. 566 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,880 but he was trying to hide it. 567 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,120 We show her a photo lineup, which does contain Bruce Thomas. 568 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,240 We're asking her if this is the second gunman from the hallway. 569 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,600 She looks at the photo lineup, but she does not identify anybody. 570 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,480 At this point, it's possible that Tyshawn didn't know 571 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,080 who Bruce Thomas was and that he was just making it all up. 572 00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:13,000 He used Bruce Thomas as a scapegoat for his real friend 573 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,120 who was still out and about. So, we got to do more digging. 574 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,840 Through Tyshawn Williams' several social media accounts 575 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,640 we found him having other communications throughout the day, 576 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,720 asking people to give him a ride. 577 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,840 And Tania Mosly agrees to pick him up 578 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,120 and take him to Miami Hills. 579 00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:40,960 We identify where Tania Mosly lives down in Tippecanoe, Indiana. 580 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,480 We invite her back for an interview at the Metro Homicide Unit. 581 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,320 She agrees. 582 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,320 During Tania's interview, she wasn't very forthcoming 583 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,760 with information until she was explained 584 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,920 that she's just as guilty as pulling the trigger 585 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,320 and killing Cleeve Chick being the getaway driver. 586 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,360 Once Tania decided to open up, 587 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,320 she gave us what we needed to close the case. 588 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:12,080 Tania was a reliable witness for identification purposes 589 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:15,560 on Tyshawn and Bruce because she had been romantically involved 590 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:17,560 with both of them at one point. 591 00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:22,360 Tania said Tyshawn had asked her to pick him up 592 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,360 and take him to the Miami Hills Apartment Complex, 593 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,520 which she agreed to do. 594 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,400 Her and Tyshawn saw Bruce walking on the road 595 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,400 entering Miami Hills Apartment Complex. 596 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,800 Tyshawn asked Bruce if he would come with him, 597 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,680 in which Bruce agreed to. 598 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,120 I don't know if she knew the magnitude of... 599 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,400 Tyshawn going there to shoot the place up, 600 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,640 but she had to know something was going on. 601 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,440 Tania parked the car while Tyshawn and Bruce 602 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,560 went into one of the buildings. 603 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,680 Tania stated while she was waiting in the car, 604 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,680 she heard several gunshots. 605 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,320 A short time later, 606 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,320 Bruce and Tyshawn come running out of the apartment building, 607 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,080 get into the car and drive away. 608 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,880 Tania said she knew both Bruce and Tyshawn 609 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,680 to carry guns on their persons, 610 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,240 but she didn't see a gun that day on either one. 611 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,040 Tania heard Tyshawn apologising 612 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,320 to Bruce multiple times in the car 613 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:44,080 as they were leaving about Tyshawn shooting Bruce in the finger. 614 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,600 Tania drove Tyshawn to his mother's house 615 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,240 and then she took Bruce down to her house the same night. 616 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,280 Later the same night of the shooting, 617 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,120 Bruce is convinced to go to the hospital by Tania and her father. 618 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,520 They go up to receive a medical treatment for a gunshot wound. 619 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,240 Bruce told the hospital staff there 620 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,080 that he had simply shot himself accidentally. 621 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,040 Tania said that she was afraid of Bruce. 622 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,600 She knew that a murder had taken place in South Bend 623 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,400 and that Bruce was totally involved in it. 624 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,360 So, she was afraid that Bruce was gonna take her out 625 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,200 as the only witness to him being involved in this murder. 626 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,000 Tania didn't like Bruce's behaviour 627 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,000 so she reported him having a burglary warrant 628 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,160 out of St Joe County to her probation officer. 629 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:51,000 Bruce Thomas was later arrested and sent to the St Joseph County Jail 630 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,760 for his burglary warrant. 631 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,960 We reached out to get the medical records for Bruce Thomas, 632 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,360 and upon receiving them, 633 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,640 it was confirmed that he did have an injury to his finger 634 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,160 that they believed to be a gunshot wound. 635 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,080 Tania did face charges for this case. 636 00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:14,920 We never did take her into custody 637 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,480 with the understanding that if we called for her, 638 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,360 she would come testify and she'd be truthful 639 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,000 about what she testified about, 640 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,680 but that we were not gonna file charges against her. 641 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,920 An old ATF agent friend of mine used to tell me, 642 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,560 if I'm gonna make a case against the devil, 643 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:31,480 I got to interview demons to make the case. 644 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,200 Tyshawn Williams was arrested for the murder Cleeve Chick 645 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,480 on January 21st, 2016. 646 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,920 Bruce Thomas was arrested for the murder of Cleeve Chick 647 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,080 February 5th, 2016. 648 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,680 We now believe we know what happened in the murder of Cleeve Chick. 649 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,320 On December 12th, 2015, 650 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,200 Angelica Jones moves out of Tyshawn Williams's mother's house 651 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,880 after he had choked and put a gun to her head. 652 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,200 Angelica decides to take the kids 653 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,120 and move into the YWCA for their safety. 654 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,440 Angelica takes the kids to her brother's place 655 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,080 so they can celebrate Christmas Eve. 656 00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:14,720 Clay Shaefer is also staying with Meaghan Lloyd. 657 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,040 Tyshawn is suspicious 658 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,320 that Angelica and Clay Shaefer are romantically involved. 659 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,480 Tyshawn begins to threaten Clay and Angelica 660 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,640 after a picture is posted to social media 661 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,600 of the two of them snuggling on the couch. 662 00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:35,280 Clay receives a picture from Tyshawn 663 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,120 depicting Tyshawn pointing a gun at the camera. 664 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,400 So, earlier the same day, 665 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,160 Tyshawn Williams reaches out to Tania Mosly 666 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,520 and asks her to give him a ride to Miami Hills. She agrees. 667 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,760 While en route to Miami Hills, 668 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,360 they see Bruce Thomas on the side of the road. 669 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,440 Tyshawn asks Bruce to come with him. 670 00:39:58,240 --> 00:39:59,840 He agrees. 671 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,640 Tyshawn and Bruce knock on the door of Meaghan, 672 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,960 hoping to find Angelica and Clay inside the apartment. 673 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,960 I personally believe Tyshawn is looking for Clay 674 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,080 because of the relationship that he manufactured in his own head 675 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:21,040 between Clay and Angelica. 676 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,840 When the door opens, Meaghan sees them in the hallway. 677 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,680 She yells out, "They got guns!" Door gets slammed in their face. 678 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,640 In an act of heroism, Cleeve Chick pushes the door closed, 679 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,440 holds it closed with his own body, 680 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,560 saving the lives of the women and children in the apartment. 681 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,320 During the barrage of gunfire, 682 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,560 Bruce gets hit in the finger. 683 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,000 Cleeve is shot multiple times 684 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,240 and dies as a matter of his injuries. 685 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,720 I believe Tyshawn Williams went to that apartment with the intention 686 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,640 of causing havoc and perhaps even more murders. 687 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,120 The trial for Bruce Thomas is held July 2016. 688 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,200 After two hours of deliberation, the jury comes back 689 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,520 with a guilty verdict on Bruce Thomas for the murder Cleeve Chick. 690 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,880 Bruce was sentenced to 55 years in prison. 691 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,640 The trial for Tyshawn Williams is held in January of 2017. 692 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,520 Me and my sister went every single day, 693 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,120 and we sat there for countless hours. 694 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,240 I owed that to Cleeve. I owed him justice. 695 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,120 After four hours of deliberation, 696 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,000 the jury finds Tyshawn Williams guilty of reckless homicide 697 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,720 but not murder. 698 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,200 Tyshawn Williams is sentenced to six years in prison. 699 00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:53,840 I feel like it's not fair. 700 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,440 The mastermind of it should have got just as much time 701 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,440 as the person that was brought to the scene of the crime. 702 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,040 I don't know if Tyshawn will ever 703 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,000 come after my daughter Angelica again, 704 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,920 but I feel sorry for the next woman that he does deal with, 705 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,800 because it's a pattern. 706 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,080 It bothers me that Tyshawn Williams didn't feel 707 00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:21,000 the full force of justice for having committed this murder. 708 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,600 In my heart, I believe he should have been found guilty of murder. 709 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,360 But that is the way of our system. 710 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,640 The system works, it just doesn't always work the way we want it to. 711 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,760 If anything stays with me in the case, 712 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,600 it's the fact that this happened on Christmas Eve. 713 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,280 You know, that's a time of celebration, 714 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,160 not a time to bury a loved one. 715 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,000 Cleeve Chick will always be right here. 716 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,040 I got him forever on my arm. 717 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,400 He's always gonna be part of my life. 718 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,200 And I'm sorry that he's not here with us today. 719 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,840 Even if it ain't with me, with us, 720 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,360 the people in this world, 721 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,600 cos he was a good, kind-hearted person. 722 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:32,960 Subtitles by Sky Access Services 63329

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